The Way To Bee with Frederick Dunn - @Raysdwild Family Interview, Cast of The Boys and the Bees, Short Film Jury Award Winner, 2026 Sundance Film Festival

Episode Date: April 15, 2026

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So hello and welcome to another episode of interviews with beekeepers. Today I have four very special guests, a mother, Eliza, a father, Nehemiah, and their two sons, Carver, and Arrow. The Ray family was recently featured in The Boys and the Bees, which was the short film Jury Award winner for nonfiction at the 2006 Sundance Film Festival. I'm Frederick Dunn, and this is The Way to Be. Here's the Ray family. So, well, I want to welcome you to The Way to Be, and I'm really excited to talk to you. Let me turn off my special effects. I have fog here.

And I love the Sundance Film Festival, and I understand that you may not have watched every film that's come out of Sundance before. Is that true? Yes. So then, so what happened? How did you end up being in a short film that ends up being the top film for this year's Sundance Festival? Anybody who wants to answer that? How did you end up being in a film? Okay, here we go.

Arrow. All right, Eric. You may speak. Clive is award-winning beast. Okay, so I see. All right. So that's, you just, by the way, spoiler alert, most people have not seen. seen the film. So you just basically told the high point. Wait a second. Now that we're on that,

though, you mentioned Beestings. So, Error was that a happy moment for you when Carver was envenomated? Kind of. Kind of. I was happy. Carver? That was his first. Carver, did you feel? Did you feel that you were exploited for views? Can you say that again? I'm going to... Was that, did you know when that happened, when the bee stung you?

By the way, let's be clear, the bee didn't just sting you. I'm pretty sure your father had control of the bee, and he helped the bee sting your arm so that you could join this club of family members who have been. been stung already? Is that right? Yeah. Okay. So that means your mom's been stung, your little brother was stung, your dad was stung, and you're like, I want to be in this club.

That's what happened. So you begged your dad, please sting me. And then at the last moment, you might have had second thoughts about that. People pay money for that experience. It's called apotherapy. Yeah. So you got it for free. You got it for free. Okay, let's this, what's that? Somebody has something they wanted to say.

Okay. I didn't know that people pay money to me. I did not hear what he just said. No, that people pay money to get stung. Okay, you did not know that? No. Yeah, because it takes their mind. like if my arm hurt over here and then I was stung over here, my mind was shift to where I got stung

and I wouldn't feel my pain over here anymore. That's a misrepresentation, but okay. Did you feel good afterwards? Did you feel okay after? Oh, yeah. Okay. And whoever's talking, we probably need to get closer to the microphone when it's your turn to talk. So, yeah, that was a big story arc. So let's talk about that a little bit. Who asked you to make this film? Was this a friend of the family, or did somebody just discover you? What happened? I'm going to ask Eliza this question. Okay.

Yeah, so I guess long story short, I just really enjoy watching them in nature together. When we would be out together, it touched my heart. me and Maya was using nature to really father our kids, using it as an example to overcome fear or to push past, you know, different feelings and emotions, but also, you know, just teaching them. He's just a great teacher with nature. And so I always would pull my camera out and record it and I would load it to my own Instagram stories. Well, after a while, my friends would look forward to our Saturday family of adventures. They're like, please keep posting them. Show us more about what you guys are doing on

Saturdays when you go out. And eventually I'm like, you know what, this would be cool to just collect all of our memories together, create an Instagram page. And so I did so. Chose the name raised wild and it was cool. Then after the second video went viral, I was like pulled back, was like, actually I just wanted this to be like for family and friends. I, you know, I wasn't expecting this to happen. And I really wanted to pull back. But I felt like we should continue to share because of the way that it was touching people's hearts. And so we kept posting and kept sharing our adventures.

And Ariel, our producer found us through the Instagram. And she's like, I think we get a really beautiful film together. And slowly, but surely she won me over because I can be. very overprotective with the boys. Just a little bit. Just a little. Just a little. Yeah, just a little bit. So she went me over and we did the thing together and I'm really proud of it. It's just I feel like it's a family heirloom.

Something I'm just proud that we have together. But to know that it is, you know, beautiful to other people and they enjoy it to meet the whole lot. Now, did you have to have a family meeting or something knowing that they're going to make the film. The kids have to be on board. Everyone has to be into it. Nehemiah, was it okay with you? Or were you in some way under duress

to make this film? No, I was for it the whole time. The only person that had to get convinced was was... Yeah, the voice was... They were excited. Well, this was the only one that we had to...

Just because of the... Yeah, because of the concern for privacy, right? And keeping your family... Sure. And by the way, I've looked at your Instagram, and I love it to pieces. And I noticed that behind you in a cage, it looks like you might have a squirrel or two. That's right. That's Forrest.

He's the newest member of our family. And I have to say, one of my favorite videos that you posted there was with Carver and Arrow walking around with squirrels in their pockets. And you're a little concerned that they might bite you. They're putting their fingers in their mouths, and I think you were just about to let them get their lessons from nature there. Did they ever get bitten? Sure. They get bitten? Yeah.

A lot. A lot. Okay. So that's kind of the education that your dad provides for you is putting you in contact with animals of all kinds, and so that you can get your lessons from those, and your dad is very familiar with wildlife. And I love that. By the way, he and I spoke last week. And he's the dad I wanted, man. You know, he brings stuff home for you guys and you get to see it. I love that he sent you a piece of mail that had a green snake in it. I think just everything is great. So, and I don't want you thinking that this happens in every family. I think you guys know how special you are, right? Yeah.

So now. Yeah. Listen. So now when they, yeah, Nehemiah's like, yeah, listen to him. He's talking the truth. Okay, so when they started to set up to make this film, how much time were they going to use being around your family? Like was it every day? Did they work it out like Mondays and Fridays or how did that go? Yeah, she set it up really good where once a quarter for every season, pretty much of the year.

She set out maybe about a week, four days. to a week and she would just spend that time with us. And so we were planning to go camping and then a lot of the time it was just whatever we were doing as a family. Yeah. She just would record

and film and she was hoping she would just get something good. Yeah, it was so easy. I think that's a big reason why I was able to like just come on board. It was not invasive at all where I felt that it might be.

Yeah, it was just really smooth. We became like a family. And they joined our family, would come along with us on our adventures, and it was good. So it does have a very natural... Oh, go ahead. It took one year.

It took a year? Yeah, one year. Yeah. Okay. And then after the year was over, did you know you had something great or you just were, just let it go, see what happens kind of thing?

Because they had to, They had to narrow it down to 19 minutes. So I'll bet they had a whole bunch of other sequences and things that happened that didn't make the cut. Right? For sure. Tons of. Yeah. So, okay, Carver, this question is for you.

What happened while they were making this film that did not end up in the final film that you wish had? Oh, do you remember? Yeah, when they were asking me questions. Oh. When they were asking me questions, they were actually asking me questions, and they didn't put that in. Yeah, so you feel like he didn't get enough FaceTime. Is that what I'm hearing? No, like, he's like more of me. Right.

Yeah. So, yeah. Okay. Arrow, what did they film you doing that you wish had made it in the final cut and it didn't? It did go in, but some of it didn't. Okay. When we was... Talk loud to you.

When we was building the tent and giving a microphone stuff. Oh, when we were building the tents. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I forgot about that. So that's something that he wanted to have in that film. And you had no. How many people were there?

Like, was there a cameraman and a director? There was an audio person. How many people were following you around? Do you guys remember? No. It was great. It was literally just the cameraman, producer, director. Fernando, Ariel, and the sound.

Yeah. Okay. And is that, had you ever been on a set before, did you know that that's how it works? No experience. No one has a background in film or cinema work? No. No.

Okay. The closest is me doing some removals from Tyler Perry Studios, but we weren't in anything. So that's the closest. Yeah, because you were on set. Yeah. there to like help regulate remove some snakes. Oh, wow.

But that was it. Okay. We actually remove some snakes. Pardon? We were, we actually filmed, uh, yeah, three B removals from Tyler Perry Studios. That's what I wish what they had in there. Because we had a big boom lift. Like we went like almost 50, 60 feet in the air.

It was a cool. It was cool looking. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's, yeah. it's pretty dramatic. So when you say a boom lift, you mean like a cherry picker or an actual big boom truck? It is. It's bigger than a cherry picker, but small in a boom lift truck. And you know,

I could understand actually probably why they cut that, because that film has a very organic feel and we don't see a lot of tech and industrial related gear in it. And I think that really, that would had shifted the story a little bit. I didn't think of that. Mr. Frederick does. He does films and records and things like that as well. Nice. Yeah.

Well, yeah, we're not, we don't want anybody to watch my movies. Okay. So there's student films. Well, I take a lot of B videos. But anyway, this is all about you guys. So now all of a sudden, how did you find out, first of all, you must have found out that you were that that film was accepted by the Sundance Film Festival,

and then they had to let you know that there was going to be a screening. Did you go knowing that you were winners or that you were just in the running? And that question is for Eliza. We did not go knowing that we were winners at all. We actually had really high hopes because Nehemiah, especially as he worked with our director, Ariel, was just very positive. He's a man of God, loves Jesus.

Like his faith was like on display before Ariel. So he asked her specifically like, what is the best that this film could do? And she was telling him, like the first step was like, you know, hey, we just need to get some funding. And then, you know, she shared any big thing that could happen. She's like, it would be really great if we could get into Sundance. And I think you said like,

we'll get in, but we'll win, we'll win. He just had like a lot of faith, and he wanted to just encourage her and show her, like, what it means to put that faith out there. And so we had a lot of high hopes and high belief, but we didn't know for sure that we won. So finding that out was such a moment. It was amazing.

And do you think the boys understood the scope of that, what it means to get first place at the Sundance Film Festival? maybe not the scope of it but the way they cheered the way they burst it into excitement when they heard the boys and the bees called um it was definitely like priceless moment you do you all what happens at that moment they bring you all up on stage or what happens yeah do you guys remember tell what So they call our movie. Yeah. Then we go up stage.

That's all I can remember. You got it. You go, Aaron. First they called up. They said the movie. And then Ariel came up on the stage. Yeah. Our director went up on the stage.

He gave her speech. And then we all came up on the stage. Yeah. Do you remember Arrow actually Arrow actually tried to snatch the award? He said, this is my first trophy. And it says, gorgeous Sundance,

glass, blue glass trophy. And he's trying to grab it. They're like, whoa. So you don't remember that. You tried to snatch it. So what, so she gets the trophy, what does the family get other than notoriety? What do you get? Notoriety, opportunities, yeah.

And she gets more of the, since it was a documentary, you know, a docu field. And we weren't really acting, you know? We were just being, I guess we are actors per se, but not really because we were just, We would just be in our coach. Well, you are, even without acting, you are the stars of a short film. So the fact that it's a documentary and nonfiction category, it means that you're just being yourselves, and then it's up to you're in the hands of the director

and, of course, everyone else to bring that together and make it true. Yeah. So I think that's really exciting. Do you all have sweatshirts or T-shirts or something that says Sundance Winters on it? Oh my gosh, we should definitely get sweatshirts or t-shirts. Now we don't. Should. You have something.

What? What's that? A big blanket. You have a bee blanket. You have a bee blanket. But it doesn't. Someone gave them that. Okay.

I don't know what the rules are about merchandise or whatever, but once it gets past a premiere phase and everyone can see this film. And if people haven't figured it, that out it's called the boys and the bees for those that are listening and watching there will be merch associated with that right I mean people will be able to buy shirts or something somebody's going to have to do the graphic arts for that yeah yeah yeah yeah the boys and the bees that would be have you talked about this do is this worked out or are you just still thinking about it oh no this is the first

time thanks for the idea yeah you can see that I will buy a shirt once it is in existence just because, okay. We got our first sale. Okay, so I have to ask the kids questions, of course. Your parents have taught you a lot. What have you taught your parents? Who wants to answer that? Yes, go ahead, Arrow.

Church, you're at school. We have to tell our parents about what we're. So what is something you taught us? I taught you then that you grow every night. What is this? Did he just say you grow every night? Okay. With his finger up.

I love that story. You grow up every night. Okay. And so Carver. What have you taught your parents? I know I taught them something, but I don't really know. You're just being modest right now. You probably don't want to embarrass them.

Okay. And so, excuse me? So your dad collects and brings home sometimes. He's a wildlife. What is it you do, Nehemi, your wildlife removal service? Yeah, wildlife. Okay. And sometimes you bring something home to show the boys, or I'm sure that Eliza is dying to see what you have in your vehicle when you come home.

But are there some things that you choose not to bring home and why? The only thing that I choose not to bring home would be, oh, well, I did bring that home. I was going to say venomous snakes, but I did bring home a copperhead one day. I don't think No, pretty much Yeah, anything that I'm allowed By law To bring or catch

I bring to them Yeah, pretty much everything Okay, and that leads us to something You said that you're allowed to bring home And keep by law I think the boys were a little bit upset About something to brought home That they had to surrender

To a wildlife recovery center They had those little opossums And they were not very happy to turn those loose, right? Does that, does that happen often that your dad brings something home and you think it's just going to be part of the family and then you find out later it has to go away? Nope, you mean, that's like the first time. Oh, that was just it? Justin? Oh, sad. It's just one, am I? You got to talk right there. Wait again. I was so sad and I just wouldn't break. And that's about the...

baby opossums yeah yeah that was that was that was a hard one for them yeah so now we know that you guys on your property there how long have you lived where you are now so this moment no hasn't been two years yet it has me a year and a half okay a year and a half so between a year and a half in two years. Okay. So you have a lot of animals on your property. Who's deciding what animals are being kept there? Like you've got hogs, you've got chickens. Oh, I saw the baby chick that had to be, we won't talk about that, the recent one that passed away. But anyway, so you've got a lot of diversity there. Are you? Are you making a family decision regarding what animals to keep on your property?

Or is this the parents are deciding what's happening? Good question. Yeah, it's pretty much an executive decision. It's a problem. It's an executive decision. It's a problem. I need to hear more from Eliza on this one. Let me tell you.

I'll tell you exactly why it's a problem. because of course, I'm a mother. I will, if I see a baby in need, of course I want to nurture it. I want to care for it. But I often get these surprises of like, oh, here's some baby squirrels. Oh, here's this.

And I'm the one mainly taking care of them. So that could be a little frustrating sometimes. But I think the one time that I was just over it was when he, brought home a baby raccoon who I absolutely fell in love with. I named him Perry. He was so sweet, loved him to pieces. And after a while, Nehmi's like, okay, we got to get rid of him. And I'm like, no, I'm not ready to part. Like, I was not ready to part with that little rectum. I just wanted to release him in the backyard. He could live around here. But he was getting like pretty, if other people would come to the house, he would kind of like run up. You know, it was becoming an issue.

And so me and Maya sent him away. And I was just heartbroken. I was like, don't ever bring me another animal again. We'll see how this looked out. Now, you were, you were alone in your feelings for that raccoon. The boys didn't mind that it was going away? Apparently, I was alone in my feelings. You guys didn't love Perry the way I did?

I loved him so much. Mommy, do you remember I was crying, Wendy? Oh, were you crying? Yes. Oh, we did. We shared a cry together. Carver was over it. I was a little glad he was gone.

You were glad he was gone? He was not like he was eating our food. I loved doing it. Oh, yeah, he was eating our musketines off the trees and eating our food, yeah. And I did not like that. Okay, if you had to get rid of all of your animals but one, what would it be? What would you keep if you could only keep one kind of animal there? That's a really hard one.

That's a hard one. It's a hard one. You don't, you can't, you don't have an idea. It's keep the squirrel and you lose them. What? Keeps the squirrel? We just got him. You would get rid of the chickens, cheat, bees, and keep the squirrel.

The pigs. The pigs. And only keep the squirrel. Hey, that's, if that's his choice, we. That's just how he feels. We don't challenge people's feelings. You would keep bees? Carver, what would you keep?

The bees. The bees, I was hoping for that, being that it's the boys and the bees. If the bees aren't your favorite, what's going on? You saved it. You pulled that out last minute, Carver. Good for you. Thank you, Carver. And all I know is that little squirrel is very safe.

chickens. Yeah. Do someone would keep the chickens. I like the chickens. Okay. Now, I know that your dad has this philosophy, where once you learn about something, you're probably less afraid of it.

I don't know that that's always true. Sometimes the more we learn about something, it actually becomes a little creepier than we ever thought it was. Can you give me an example of an animal that you kind of thought okay but then when you learned a little more about it maybe it's not yeah go ahead chickens are not okay because our chickens are nice and i thought i learned for nice but when i saw a video of one boy next to a chicken and that's chicken literally fighting the bullet.

Okay. I'm just going to guess that that was a rooster. Yeah. It was a rooster. You know what. Now you do know that a really mean rooster is a full service pet. I don't know if you guys eat your chickens ever. Do you or not?

Yes. That's why we call it a full-service pet. Okay. So because if the roosters mean, you won't feel bad about giving a name like Sunday brunch or cordon blue. So, Barbara, you were going to say something? What I was, what I thought was like, okay, until I was like, wow, that's crazy. kangaroos. What about kangaroos?

Because I thought they would not punch you. I didn't know they would be mussely. That's not even a word that's mussel. That's not even they can't punch you.

They can. I guess that's why we often see cartoons of kangaroos with boxing gloves on. But they let you have it. They balance with their tail and they let you have it with their hind feet. That doesn't feel fair, does it? Right. Now, you had a small mammal that is not a rodent that I think is really amazing.

And I think you both learned that it is also venomous. Can you tell me what it is? Yes. What? Arrow. No, remember? What was it? what was it we found it in the chicken coop it was a tiny little snake no no do you remember carver

the buff okay well no it wasn't true true it's a shrew do you remember seeing a shrew oh yeah yeah do you do you have any idea how a shrew finds its prey did you know that they echo locate, that they make little chirps and high frequency sounds, and that if anything moves, that's when they grab onto it and they bite it. And then, of course, they work their venom into it. There are things about truths that makes them a tiny little nightmare, I think. I know. I didn't know they used that co-location. That's really... Oh, man, it's amazing. And so here's the other thing did you know that there is a water shrew a water shrew and this water shrew when it swims in the water and grab something to eat it has to first know what it smells like can you imagine under water how hard

that is whoa i'm just i know this is about you guys but i can't resist sharing this because this is an example of something you learn that's cool it actually blows a bubble up against it underwater and and then sniffs a bubble back in, and that's how it knows what it's smelling. Shrews. Shrews are amazing. That is cool. That's a water shrew. Where do they live?

They're in North America. You have to look them up, and I think it's good for the kids to find out where they live and how they live, and how long they can stay underwater. and if things don't move, they go right past them. That's why they're clicking constantly, but any movement, and they know to grab it, right? So that's interesting. The other thing is how important is beekeeping to you guys.

Like, do you see yourselves being, like, advancing in beatkeeping later on? What do you thinking? Do you like it? It's just okay. What are you feeling? I feel like I want to have a job with bees. Yeah. So you want to continue doing bees?

Okay. Yes. What kind of job? Tell me what that job looks like. What do you want to keep bees for? Do you want it for the honey, for beeswags? You want to make more bees or you want to do pollination. What do you want to do, do you think?

I want to do it from honey. So you like honey? Yeah. That's right. We just watched a video of you guys with honey all over your hands. It's so much fun when everything in your house gets sticky, right? Ah, no. That is that part. It gets so sticky. So, but you like it. You're not just doing it because your dad's doing it. And you get free bees this time of year, don't you?

Oh, yeah. How do you get free bees? Because the bees have babies. They have babies. Okay. Do you want to explain how that works? Because the cleanie lays an egg, then it can hatch. And then I'm pretty sure then it becomes a larva. And then it grows up to become a bee.

So are there really, if you see, the bees outside the hive? Are there any baby bees outside the hive? Never saw one. No, because they're adults by the time they get out there. But you know what? I'm really impressed with what you already knew about what was going on there. Because what I was thinking about is how do we get free swarms or free, I already blew it. How do we get colonies of bees? To add to your own apiary. Yes, Arrow. This talk. um maybe when the queen dies or maybe if there's too much bees or say that on

out say it on top maybe when the queen lies or maybe if there's too many bees that is a very good answer they swarm they go to another hot that's why we have hide on our house that's why we have high That's why you have hypes, what? All around our house. You have them all around the house. We have swarm boxes? You have swarm boxes?

We have boxes, yeah. So they're like traps for swarms? Okay, who's doing all the bee work? It covers himself. Okay. Okay. All the other ones. Okay.

So, and the older you get, the more you'll be able to help. And I saw that you have bee suits. That's good. I think it's great that you guys have this going. And the story actually is almost more about family than the beekeeping itself, right? And then at the very end, of course, it does ground in your faith. And I think that's really fantastic. You feel a connection.

So do you feel a connection to the land that you're? on right now? Do you feel like you, like, when you got there for the first time, did you say, wow, this is where I belong. I really feel good here? Or did you want to go right back to a suburb somewhere and live in town? What did you want to do? Really, I don't want it to live in. So I said, yes. Do you like where you're at? Okay. I like thought like, man, I don't want to, when we didn't go there first, then when mommy said, we can go outside without, like, we can go just outside randomly. Yes. In right or any time, I was like, oh, I would have moved.

Oh, so that was. Oh, so, all right, so that's how you describe this to the boys. before you move to the new property, you said you can go outside and go anywhere you want kind of thing? Yeah, I was like, this is all your property. Like, you're free to roam and explore and you can just go for it. And you can just ride your bike. Right. At first, I would give them walkie-talkies.

Like, okay, I don't know where they're, where they are on land. Like, let me give them walkie-talkies in case something happens. And then that just, that lasted for like two weeks. Then they would go. They were out. just gone and I was like, okay, I trust that they're fine. You know, I can find them. Yeah, we were fine. You always knew our way back. You always knew your way back. That is very handy. So did your dad take you out and teach you some orienteering, which is how to find your way and how to get home?

Uh-uh. He doesn't take you out in the woods in a blindfold and then take it off and make you find your way home? Oh, we should. No. No. No. We will. We will now. Okay. Okay. I see a lot of things happening. Now, Nehemiah, did you have that experience when you were a child? Did you live in rural settings or were you living in town?

What was going on? Yeah, I was living in the suburbs. But there was like a creek close to the house, not too far from the house. There was a creek. and our backyard or our neighbor's backyard was very overgrown in Woodsy, so I would

do a lot of exploring in their backyard. Okay, so you were kind of an outdoor person and just made the most of where you were. And so... Yeah, pretty. Okay, so Eliza. Were you...

Yeah, I grew up in Louisville, Kentucky, in the bluegrass state, so we definitely ran the meadows like we're always in creeks, always in a meadow like that's just how my siblings

and I grew up and even though we were in the more impoverished places my mom always knew how to find a beautiful park that we would go to and we make the most of it. Being in creation together as a family was like

an escape for us. That's how we connected. That's how we got away. And so, yeah, that was always a big part of my childhood. So did you and Nehemiah have this plan long term when you got together that someday you wanted to live rural and have a bunch of animals and pigs and chickens and shrews and bees? In other words, how much of this kind of just happened for you and how much of it really did you plan to achieve? We always said that we wanted. a farm and to grow our own food.

It was always like we both really love plants. We both loved like he was definitely more into plants than I was. But we said like we have to grow on food. This is going to be so exciting. And I don't know how the animal, after, you know, getting into wildlife removal, that's where the animals started to come up more than like growing in plants. And even now, like we just started growing food.

We've had the animals much longer. So I always laugh like, hey, we were supposed to just be growing vegetables. How am I surrounded by all these farm animals and wild animals? So, but I love it. I love it. I really do. People always ask me like, how do you deal with all? I'm like, what do you mean deal with?

This is, I enjoy. Like, this is, I love everything about having a squirrel behind me. in just being outside together is who we are. Yeah. And how about some obstacle that you ran into? What was something maybe that you didn't anticipate that was more of a challenge than you thought it would be? I think how long it took for us to find the property.

Yeah. Like we had a lot of moments where we were super excited. Like, yes, this is it. in disappointment. Yeah. And then we found another spot. We thought this is definitely an disappointment. So the time that it took for us to find the property.

Honestly, right before this one, we almost got to the point of almost like not even looking anymore, kind of just like, you know what, maybe this isn't in the, maybe this isn't in the works for right now. Maybe this is something later on. Yeah. So we actually stopped looking completely. and I was praying one morning, and I just felt like, man, it's time to start looking again.

And I was telling Eliza, I was like, hey, babe, start looking. Like, I think we should start looking. And she sent over some properties because she felt the same thing in her spirit. And so she was already looking. And then this popped up. And we were like, yeah, this is it. This one is definitely it. Yeah.

So I think that was the biggest hurdle. Yeah, for me. Four years of looking and nothing. Yeah, four years. Four years of looking and nothing. Wow. Well, I'm glad you made it. So I'm glad you.

And Ariel's glad too, I'm sure, because you got her. It's a big thing for a filmmaker. So now that she's in, she may reach out to you to do more. Has she said anything? Yeah, we've talked about it. We haven't solidified anything yet, but we've talked about it. Right now, the biggest focus is the festival runs. That's the biggest thing that everybody's been focused on.

We actually just found out today that it got into Sheffield Dockfest in the UK. Oh, going international. Which was a big deal across the pond. So I don't know, we may go to that. We got to figure out. Now, people should understand that when you go to those, and we talked about this before, this is on your dime. It's not like working with a big studio where they pay all of your transportation and where you're staying and everything.

So the opportunity to go to the UK, is that something you feel like you would do as a family? Oh, like we literally just found out right before we hop doing here. So we haven't even talked about it yet, but in my mind, yeah. I mean, I think that's a good opportunity to go across seas and, you know, the boys of, I've actually never been to the UK. So what is the UK? The United Kingdom. It is, I don't know where Sheffield is. That settled in.

But we got to see. Am I just tell them it's the United Kingdom. Now the boys know exactly what you're talking about. You're right. You got disresented. Okay. You know that. Europe, right?

Yeah, Europe. There we go. Yeah, we'll go with that. We'll go with that. So Arrow and Carver, you like traveling? You took a train, I heard. That must have been fine. And do you, so do you like flying?

Do you want to get on an airplane and fly for seven hours? No. Oh, bro. I want to get on a train. There is no train to the United Kingdom. There's no train to the United Kingdom. No. You have to cross the Atlantic Ocean.

They really love that train ride. After we did the train and then had to get on the plane, they were like, no, we just want to ride the train. It is fun. Train everywhere. Yeah, you get up and run around. You go all the way to that last car and you eat. Yeah. I don't think you drink cappuccino, so you're probably there having lunch or something.

Okay. So Carver and Arrow, what's your favorite part of traveling around now that you're superstars? My favorite part of traveling around is that I literally get to go to places so far away. like we got the place you we the only time we fly longer than two hours is when we went traveled traveled to the other places what did we go we went was it yeah it was to Utah yeah that's the only time it was more than two hours yeah because every time we travel it's two hours but that's the only time it's more than two hours. No.

No, you know. How did it feel to have all these people congratulating you and saying hi after they saw your film? Did that feel weird or did you like it? I liked it. You like it? Yeah. How about you here? It felt weird to you.

It felt weird to me. Because people act like they know you kind of, don't they? Yeah. Yeah. Do you feel like you like? Do you guys feel? like you would like to make another movie maybe someday as you're growing older? Or have you? Yeah. Yeah? Yeah? Yeah.

I said he was already going to make a movie. I said he was already going to make one. He was going to make one. Okay. With my brother. With your brother. That's interesting. Fire me and water me and fire me and fire. What? What is it? Fireman and Watermen. Fireman and Waterman. That's your, is that the name of your movie? Yes, they, they write, they make comics. So they were sketching comics.

And it's called Fireman and they go on these cool adventures. So, yeah. Oh, I like that story. That creative process is more valuable than you guys know, trust me. Sketching out comics and working out your thoughts and putting them down on paper. Super good. Okay. Well, we're probably running out of steam with the voice.

So I want to make sure that our viewers, who obviously haven't seen the film yet because it's not available, when will it be available to the public and how will they see it? Well, if somebody wants to stay in the loop, you can go to our Instagram and sign up to our newsletter.

That is one way. but it won't be coming out until PBS will be releasing it. And so we don't have the exact date. We're trying to time out everything. So we finish the festival runs. And then it will be showing. But we also put on our website, raisewild.com, where there's a festival at,

that it will be showing. So if somebody wants to check it out at a festival near them. festival. They can do that as well. Okay. And so for those watching and listening, these links will also be down in the video description here and they will also be on I-Hart Radio so you can find it there

and follow this family because it's going to be really fantastic. And it's called Raised Wild and I'm just going to spell that in case someone doesn't want to look it up. R-A-Y-S-D-W-I-L-D. And is that also that's your Instagram, your YouTube,

and what else? All things raised wild. Yeah, TikTok. And TikTok. Okay. So, and if you missed it, just look down the video description. We'll link you up. And of course, we'll update everything as we learn more when it's released.

We'll put some information about that. And I want to thank all of you for getting together and sharing about this experience. It's very unusual. And I'm really happy for all of you that you've found a great place to live, that you have the parents that you do, and that you're really learning so much. much about nature and of course how to grow up right right okay so thank you everybody I appreciate it and I hope you have a great run and I hope you do go to the UK by the way and share it on your Instagram and you thank you to Mr. Doug okay thanks a lot and that wraps up another episode of interviews with beekeepers please don't forget to visit the video description

for links and updated information regarding when and where you can view the boys and the bees. I'm Frederick Dunn, and this has been The Way to Be.