The Weekly Planet - 01 Worst TV Show Endings

Episode Date: October 19, 2020

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This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. This episode is brought to you by ExpressVPN. Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday. With me as always is my co-host Nick Mason. A bit chilly, a bit chilly in the podcast room, you know what I mean? I didn't want to put the heating on.

I meant emotionally chilly. Oh yeah, as always. You give me a bit of a chill there. He's frosted me out. You know, we act warm towards each other on the show, but before and after... Separate private jets to here. That's right. I mean, you live here.

Doesn't matter. I circle the neighbourhood, I come back. Well, speaking of Frosty, you were talking about Frosty the Snowman before we started recording. You said Frosty the Snowman for some reason. I did. And I said, he's not really a thing here. Like, we know him, but we don't respect him.

You know what I mean? We'd beat him up if he came to this neighbourhood. 100%. I'd put my fist right through him, mate. Oh, my God. The big snowman. You say that. You think you would.

You'd be the – Hard-packed snow actually, yeah. No, you'd be the cool guy at the party. You'd be like, wait, watch me put my fist right through him. And then you'd punch through and then you'd be like, oh, no, it's so cold. And then your arm would snap off. You know when you see it in the movies? Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

And he'd be like red and frosty. Would he, like he'd be alive and he'd be like ha, ha, ha, ha. Yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah, because he's a cursed snowman. Yeah, well, isn't there that killer Frosty the Snowman movie? Almost certainly. And maybe the movie Jack Frost where Michael Keaton inhabits the spirit of a snowman or something. Yeah, maybe, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, anyway, fuck him. I'm not about him. I was going to say, can't you at least be on board with Frosty as far as bad horror movie adaptations go? I will not. I'm fine. I can do that. What about Halloween?

How do you feel about Halloween? I like it, man. I like it too. I mean, we're not really getting it this year, obviously. We can do Teller Halloween. Teller Halloween. It's brought to you by- What about Nutella Halloween?

Yeah. You put a tub of Nutella out the front, Kids just go past and they scoop up a handful. Yes, please. That's right. Don't take the whole jar and don't get the jar stuck on your arm. But it's one of those enormous ones, the novelty ones you get for people's birthdays. Yes, yes, yes, yes.

So do you do Halloween where you are? Kids don't come to your door though because you can't get direct access. Yeah, so I can just pretend I'm not home. Yeah. What are they going to do? Graffiti the gate? Ha! You're not even going to deal with that.

That's right. Probably a guy that does it. There's a guy that deals with that. A guard that I put out. He's got a spear. Great. Yeah. He can stab three, four kids at a time with that spear.

Kid kebab. Kid kebab. That's right. Excellent stuff. This went off the rails quickly, didn't it? That's fine because I think it – oh off the rails quickly, didn't it? That's fine because I think it, oh, by the way, oh, yeah, I was going to say it goes straight into the first thing we were talking about,

which it does because we're going to be talking about that Mad Max prequel, there's Spider-Man news. We've got a topic about TV shows that didn't end well because there's a TV show that didn't end well that's coming back. Trailer's for Monster Hunter and Jiu-Jitsu. Yeah. Wonder Woman and Superman news and the Batman, there's a bunch of other stuff going. Snoke updates. Do you want a Snoke update?iu-Jitsu. Yeah. Wonder Woman and Superman News and the Batman. There's a bunch of other stuff going.

Snoke updates. Do you want a Snoke update? We can do that. Wait. Oh, yes. It took me a minute to remember who Snoke was. I'm like, Snoke, Harry Potter character? Nope, that's not right.

James is after an answer. How much time has passed? I'm really not sure at this point. Oh, Star Wars. Yep, I get it. Perfect. You've done it. Yeah, I know who Snoke is.

There's time codes below if you do want to check it out. But Deadline have reported that Furiosa prequel has been cast and it seems like it's moving forward. Anya Taylor-Joy, right? Anya Taylor-Joy. George Miller is coming back and the whole crew who worked on the last one. She's going to be Furiosa. How do you feel about that? I don't

really know who Anya Taylor-Joy is. I know she's in The New Mutants. Oh, she's the lady that Split falls in love with... Oh, she's the... She's in The Vivitch. She's the lady that Split falls in love with. Yes, exactly. Yeah, right, right, right. One of his personalities, maybe. I can't remember.

Yeah, I can't know who she is. Okay. I think she's good. Yeah. Yeah. Have they tested the head shape to see if it's a match with Charlize Theron's head shape? It doesn't matter at this point. I guess they could CGI extra bumps on.

Yeah, totally. Like, if they shave her head and they're like, oh, this isn't right. If they can CGI an arm off. That's unnatural, Anya Taylor-Joy. We've never seen a woman with a head like that before. We don't like it. You're Yeah, totally. Like if they shave her head and they're like, oh, this isn't right. If they can see a giant arm off. That's unnatural, aren't you, Taylor Joy? I've never seen a woman with a head like that before. You don't like it. You're fired, obviously. I still think if you're going to do a prequel,

just get Charlize Theron. She looks most of the same. You put some grease on her. It doesn't matter. She could be any age. But hey, whatever. They seem to know what they're doing with George Miller in general, so I'm not really too worried.

But I mean, she cut her own arm off for Fury Road. How did she get it back? That's what I'm saying. How are they going to put it back? You're talking about in real life? What are we doing here? I'm not really too. But, I mean, she cut her own arm off for Fury Road. How did she get it back? That's what I'm saying. How are they going to put it back? You're talking about in real life? What are we doing here? I'm saying real life. We're going with real life.

The joke in this instance was she cut her own arm off for real life. Okay, cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Gotcha. Very good. It's a good joke. Thank you. So Yaha Abdul-Mateen, who played the second, he played Dr. Manhattan.

He was also recently in The Trial of Chicago 7. And he's in Black Mirror. Yes, he is. But he's playing Praetorian, which sounds like a Mad Max-y name. Doesn't it though, yeah. And Christopher Hemsworth is playing Dementus. He's apparently going to have a long silver scar down his face. Sounds like a bad guy maybe?

A long silver scar could mean anything. Dementus? They don't normally get that name. Maybe he's Dementus for good value. You know what I mean? Yeah, that might be it. Yeah, yeah. It's entirely possible.

So that's all good news, I think. I'm glad we're getting another Mad Max, and maybe it will come out in the next 40 years. Maybe. Who knows? That's why it took that long to come out or whatever it was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What was it?

Mad Max 3 was like maybe 86. I can't even remember. Something like that, yeah. Yeah, and then 2015. Let me just check. Do you think he's going to do it again? Do you think this is going to be lightning in a bottle or do you think he's going to?

I think he can do it. Yeah. I think he can definitely do it. 85 was Mad Max. Because I don't really like, I've never seen anything he's done in between Mad Max 3 and Fury Road. He did Babe 2, which is apparently very good. He did a lot of producing and stuff like that.

Yeah, I guess that's probably true, yeah. He did Happy Feet, which is like very good. He did a lot of producing and stuff like that. Yeah, I guess that's probably true. He did Happy Feet, which is like, I'm not really big on it, to be honest, but it's not for me also. That's true. But yeah, anyway. Very specifically, it was not for you. They wouldn't let you in. They wouldn't let me do it.

I didn't want to go. That sounds like a man who desperately wanted to go see Happy Feet. I don't know. Just the whole dancing penguins, and I just didn't like the society they set up. It kind of looked like stupid. You walked the whole way home just staring at your shoes going like, well, like sad feet.

I got tap dancing shoes on. Just clippity clopping as I sadly walk over the road. One clips and one goes. They're not bad. I just, again, not for me. One clips and one goes. They're not bad. I just, again, not for me. But trailers of Hoy Mason. First one is Jiu Jitsu. Nicholas Cage.

Oh my God. Helmed. Seems like some kind of stuntman action reel movie. It's one of those. See, that's the thing. And I think some people tweeted at us, you should watch, you should look at Jiu Jitsu. And I'm like, oh, has Nicholas Cage learned Jiu-Jitsu for this movie?

I don't know what it is. I don't think he has. But it looks like, I mean, it's clearly a Predator knockoff and an incredibly bad one. Predator, Mortal Kombat. It looks like if any other actor I knew was in this trailer, I would assume that it would go for like a minute and then like a director would call cut and then it would pull back and it's on a soundstage

and the actual movie is about a man who is the star of terrible action movies but actually he wants to get away from it all and- It's the movie Drive. Yeah, exactly right. Yeah, yeah, I see what you're saying. You're absolutely right. Yeah, so this isn't something you're interested in watching.

It looks like a terrible movie within a movie and not in a good way. Yeah, I don't think I'll watch this. I don't really like bad good movies or good bad movies or whatever you want to call it. Maybe Cage is teaming up with Charlie Kaufman again and it's going to be very meta. Yeah. I don't think so. I mean, he knows what he's doing, doesn't he, Nicolas Cage? No.

No, he doesn't. He's just spiralling. But then, as we mentioned recently, occasionally does something amazing because he can. It's not this, though. You never know. I don't think it is. He's not doing an accent.

Did you get to the bit at the end where he's like, I can fly too, and then clearly a stuntman does a flip. That was the sting of the trailer as well. Yeah. Terrific stuff. I don't know. I think it's supposed to be taken in jest. It's a jape.

You know what I mean? It's a homage to action movies. It didn't look funny enough to be. No, I don't think it was. No, I think it is one of those things where it's probably like shot by stuntmen and starring stuntmen and it's a great like stunt performance movie. Did the stunts even look that good? I don't know anything about stunts.

I didn't see any good stunts in that trailer. I can't do a spin kick like any of that though. I mean, was Tony Jaa in it? Tony Jaa's in it maybe. I don't know. But he might not be in it. Right? I don't know anything about stunts. I didn't see any good stunts in that trailer. I can't do a spin kick like any of that though. I mean, was Tony Jaa in it? Tony Jaa's in it maybe. I don't know. But he might not be in it. Right? I don't know.

Maybe Nicolas Cage gave Tony Jaa some financial advice and now they both have to be in this movie. And they're really at odds in this. Yeah, well, they would be, wouldn't they? Speaking of Tony Jaa though, we've got a full trailer for Monster Hunter. Oh, yeah. Or as it should be called, Mila Jovovich is inserted into another video game property that her character is not in.

And they've definitely put the final battle and possibly the final scene of the movie into this trailer. Spinning big Kratos blades but also probably swords from the real game. That's right. And big smoke and fire and lightning and a big... Yeah. Monsters don't feel distinct. I thought they would.

I feel like they do in the game. Whenever I see the game, I'm like, that one looks different than that one. Yeah, right. But this I didn't, I don't know. But apparently the people who made Monster Hunter are like, primo, this is where it's at. Okay, right.

People are on board. We'll see, won't we? Yeah, maybe this will be the one. This will be the one. A good video game adaptation. The best one is what you're saying. Yes, a good one, yes. Yeah, a good one.

That's coming out still at the end of the year. Okay. But probably not because, you know, nothing is. Yeah. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Don't dismay us, obviously. Okay, no dismay.

I don't think we've got any major delay news this week. I don't think so, no. That was all last week and the week before. Was there some, I think Disney said this week that they are, they're focusing on some core pillars of their business and one of them they're really focusing on streaming yeah i think that led to like a i think that led to like a new round of uh suggestions that black widow may be coming to streaming at some point do you want to talk about that let's talk about that because no i

don't i refuse let me find it i like to lead you up to a point and then in fact i'm leaving so the reason though you met uh i was going to bring up that is because, oh, actually, this is our famous segment, move up. More like boo, everything is awful. It doesn't matter. Let's not do callbacks anymore. Let's not reference any previous show that we've ever done. Okay.

All right? So wait, so in this scenario, do we have to assume that the listeners don't know who we are either? Yes, absolutely. Okay, so we have introduced ourselves. I think I should just rename. James, James, James, this is a chance to start fresh. Yeah.

We can invent whole new backstories for ourselves. Let's go. I drive a tram for my job. I'm sad. Well, you know, life finds a way, doesn't it? It certainly does. Really, yeah. But I'll just rename every episode, episode one.

So whenever you come in, you're like, oh, ground floor, here we go. Yeah, that's perfect. That's what I, a person on the internet, loves to do, try a new thing. New and untested, yeah. So Coming to America is coming to Amazon. Looks like they're going to buy that. Now, this is the series based on the- No, no, this is the sequel based on the movie.

Eddie Murphy's back and whoever else is in the movie. And Pixar's Soul is going to Disney Plus on Christmas Day but no additional cost. Oh, my goodness. They don't need to pay you $30 or $40. You just have it for free. They must have crunched the numbers and realised that Milan probably did more harm than good

because their shareholders are apparently saying, let's put an emphasis on streaming. Like the money in parks is huge as well as merch and food and everything else that goes on in their empire. Yes. But none of that is possible. No. So you get, you do this, don't you?

Sure do. I was listening to, might have been the Escapist podcast where someone was talking about that, how if Netflix gets a customer, they get something like $1,000 over their lifetime. Okay, because they sign up for something. Yeah, and they just keep it. And Disney is like maybe half of that. So the idea is that you keep them on board,

the more money you get out of them. Like a subscription service for a podcast that maybe you'd think doesn't require one. That's right. Hypothetically, say. Yeah, I understand. We're starting fresh, guys. But so... I guess that's true because with Netflix, you can always, you know, every month you get

a what's coming up this month, and it's like, it's stuff from all over the place, and it's like, you know, new movies and old movies and TV shows you've forgotten about and whatever. Yes. But with Disney it's kind of like, well, we know what their back catalogue is and it's all mostly there. Yeah.

And if you've watched what you want, then all you have is the new season of The Mandalorian and some Marvel stuff. Some Disney insider stuff where they're like, look at the people at the parks. And I'm like, I don't want to. I thank you. Makes me feel bad. Makes me feel bad. They're smiling but I don't want to. No, thank you. Makes me feel bad. Makes me feel bad.

They're smiling, but I don't believe any of this. Yeah. Wait a second. They're just wearing masks with smiling faces on them. So, yeah. Yeah. I mean, there's apparently that Imagineering show, which is quite good. It's about creativity and making stuff or something.

I don't know. And there's Jeff Goldblum is puzzled by things. Yes, but apparently not good or fine. I thought it was fine. Okay, well, there you go. Wow. Yeah. But I'm there for like Mandalorian new movies, Marvel TV shows.

That's why I'm there. And they've made the mistake of letting us subscribe and unsubscribe whenever we want. That's right. So I guess a lot of people are doing that. But I think we're going to start to get things more consistently now, especially because a bunch of this stuff has to go there at this point. So they're pressuring to move Black Widow there.

So like they've said previously that it's definitely not going to go to streaming, but everything's up in the air, man. Somebody in the meeting's like, this is definitely going to go to screaming, guys. If I don't get my way. Sounds like somebody's signing up for Dave's going to start screaming plus. Here we go. So what would you say is going to happen to Black Widow

if you're looking at the world? Well, I mean. Specifically the US, I guess. I mean, if they do this, they kind of open the floodgates in a way. I mean, I don't know. Like, what is the strategy? I don't feel like anybody who loves Marvel movies is going to cool off on Marvel movies because there isn't one for a year, I think.

Yeah. I mean, you need to, there needs to be one sooner rather than later at this point, though. Yeah. I mean, I guess, but they've also got WandaVision and whatever. Yeah. Yeah. What do you think the time period is then on something like that

before people just go, I don't care? Ah, a year and a day. Wow, that's coming up, Mason. Isn't it though, yeah. It might even be longer than the actual delay time. But you've still got some stuff in the middle, don't you? Like, again, well, you've got one thing. You've got WandaVision, which is coming up in December, it turns out,

because it wasn't in the coming up in November Disney Plus thing that they do. I mean, it involves like how long the pandemic is thinking about going for. What's it thinking? How long the pandemic is going to go for because if it's going to, you know, we might have this for some considerable amount of time. It seems like a lot of next year is also going to be a write-off in terms of a lot of things because even if there is, you know,

a vaccine, vaccine you got to administer it it's you know it takes me personally you personally oh god there's so many people as well i know people my hands are so shaky but people talk about herd mentality in a way that like you heard immunity herd immunity sorry people also talk about herd mentality that certainly plays a factor in this but people's understanding seems to be you let it just run rampant through a community but that kills a lot of people and it's not super effective at keeping people alive but uh the idea behind it really is 95% of the people get an inoculation and then that protects the 5% that don't correct but what do i know because that's i know that's probably too political for some people. Fuck me, right?

But look. But what I'm saying is, to bring it somewhat back on topic, is that if this might go for another year, then we open the floodgates for Black Widow and then the fans are like, well, we got Black Widow, so stuff you haven't filmed yet, give it to us. Give it to us, yeah. Give us the rough cut of Spider-Man 3. Where is it?

Give a shit. Hand it over. Give it. Yeah. Give. Give. Give. Me.

Give Spider-Man. Give. But yeah, you're right. It does open the- It definitely opens things up. Yeah. But I mean, that's the thing. Do you think trailers could go to Disney Plus?

That would probably be a good idea. Yeah. Right? Oh, yeah. They're five bucks each. Yeah, they could do it out of the family i would have to literally pay to do that for this would you pay five bucks for a trailer outside of this i wouldn't people did it for like the phantom menace they all saw meet joe black oh that's true they did i was actually talking about

with that with claire today and she's like why are you telling me this and i'm like i don't know you said brad pitt plate you asked me a, you said Brad Pitt, you asked me a question about Brad Pitt. You asked me a question about Brad Pitt and I got jealous so I had to go into my mind palace where the scene in Meet Joe Black happens where he gets hit by a car a bunch of times. It's the only way I can get through this. And so I thought about Meet Joe Black and then I thought

about The Phantom Menace. Claire. Don't you love how that clip resurfaces every now and then? Yeah. I'm surprised that like, isn't everybody not seeing that at this point? It's incredible. Yeah.

It was incredible at the time. Do you remember it was a big deal at the time? Yeah, it's the best part of that movie. Yeah, exactly. And the Phantom Menace trailer that played before. What I was going to say is that I guess, you know, if you're a high marketing market Disney, surely you're immune mostly to that sort of stuff. Like it's not like, you know, even if the fans send spiders

to the Disney headquarters because in a symbolic measure of demanding Spider-Man 3 on Disney+, well, if you're a top brass, you're not getting that. It's all the interns opening the boxes and getting stoned by spiders. Space-fooled spiders. Spiders, they're probably on springs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Springy spiders. Hashtag springy spiders for Spider-Man.

If it's your first episode, that's actually a very clever callback to episode 234, so you might want to check that one out. It'll tie in perfectly and you're going to get all of that. It's an even better joke than you'd think is my point. Anyway, Mason, it's not.

MODOK got a trailer. Yeah. They should put trailers on Disney+, right? Yeah. Anyway, whatever. MODOK. So Patton Oswalt is MODOK. He's trying to keep AIM in check with his family and everything

and he's trying to run things. What do you think? It's stop motion? Yeah, is it claymation or is it something akin to claymation? Yeah, I guess. But it's not computer generated. No. I think maybe the mouths are. Yeah, is it claymation or is it something akin to claymation? Yeah, I guess. But it's not computer generated. No, I think maybe the mouths are. Yeah, probably, yeah.

It looks like robot chicken-esque. It does, doesn't it? A bit more polished because it looks less like action figure-y. I think it has a lot of potential, yeah. Yeah. And so he has a wife who is a regular woman and he has two children, one of whom is a regular children and one of whom is a MODOK. Isn't he married to like a lady MODOK in the comics?

I don't, there is a MODAM who is lady MODOK, but I don't know. Yeah, I don't know if they're. They'd be kissing. Yeah, I don't know. Okay. You don't know if they'd be kissing. I don't know that. Okay, cool.

Interesting. I don't know when this is out, but sure. And what's this on Hulu? Yeah. Stars. Whatever it's, I don't know. I don't know what it's on here either. Probably nothing.

Yeah. And the last trailer, which you made me watch just before this, was The Watch. Yeah. Based on the Terry Pratchett Discworld comic fantasy series. Based on or inspired by. Yeah. Because that's what they've said.

They've said it's inspired by. Well, I looked at this and I'm like, fine, this looks all right. What did the guy with the one eye from Game of Thrones and whatever? And then I looked at the ratio and it's like, oh, people fucking hate this. Why? And then it's like, oh, people fucking hate this. Why? And then it's like, oh, this is nothing like the thing. Well, that's the thing.

Like if you look at the replies to maybe a tweet, you know, the watcher put it out, almost every reply is a photo of a Terry Pratchett book and being like, hey, do you want to read this? You want to read this book? Maybe you could read it. Is it too late to read these books? Yes. Do you want to read the book? It is too late. Yes, Maybe you could read it. Is it too late to read these books? Yes.

You want to read the book? Yeah, it is too late. Yes, obviously. We made it. It's done. We made the show. It cost a lot of money and all the actors are busy now or they're inside because of the coronavirus.

That's right. Yeah. So what do you think? Have you read Discworld? Well, I've not read. I mean, I've read maybe 10 Discworld novels. Maybe? Yeah.

That's quite a lot. That's quite a lot. How many are there? There's a lot. Are they that good? I mean, I guess so. They're fun. But I wouldn't say I'm, you know, the most massive Terry Pratchett fan.

I'd say that about you. Oh, thank you. Let's see how many books he's written. Terry Pratchett. Google says humorist. 41 novels, most of which Yaya set on the disc world which is a flat world which is on

the backs of some giant elephants which are on the back of a giant tortoise Oh, very good. And it's a magical realm and it's kind of like skewering the tropes of fantasy literature and stuff like that but it's all, yeah, it's a lot of like Haven't we skewered enough fantasy tropes at this point?

Well, that's the thing. I think that this, a lot of people are against this, and I think for a few reasons. Yeah. I think, because we just spoke about MODOK. Sure. Like if you're a comic book movie fan, there's that version of MODOK, the funny one, the silly reverent one.

Yeah. But if you just played the Avengers game, you fight a different version of MODOK. Probably funny one, the silly reverent one. But if you just played the Avengers game, you fight a different version of MODOK. Probably. I didn't play it. You do. And, you know, there's versions in the cartoons and there's versions in the comics.

I remember him from that Iron Man anime show from the 90s and being like, whose fucking idea was this? What the fuck is this? Is he dying? What is this? What's happened to him? know what i mean like a thing as a kid like i don't understand any of that yeah but i guess what i'm saying is that there's with with almost any character in the marvel universe of the dc universe there's a whole bunch of different versions out there and if you're like well i don't really like an irreverent

take or like this even like joker if you're like well i I don't like this version of the Joker because it's too much like real life. Well, there's the cartoon version and all the other movies and whatever. There's the three Joker comic where there's three Jokers, Trey Jokers. Still for some reason. Yeah. We don't know yet. But, yeah, there's a lot of options.

But if you're a Terry Pratchett fan, there hasn't been that many things. Like there's been a computer game and I think there were two fairly recent adaptations of some of his stuff, Hogfather and The Colour of Magic maybe. And what is that though? What does that come in the form of? Oh, they were on the BBC. I think they were like a series.

Okay, right. Well, same as these then. Yeah, yeah. But they were more accurate to the – Yeah, right. And it's like this feels to me like – So this is not – No.

No, this is more – But could it be set in the universe? It'd be like, oh, yeah, that could be happening down the street from. No, the aesthetic's completely different. Okay, right. Like when you think like Discworld, it's more like, you know, a wizard wears, you know, big flowing robes with stars on them and a floppy hat.

And this is more like Game of Thrones. Yeah, yeah, yeah. With like Iggy Poppers. Which I feel like, and that's what I'm saying, this feels like comic book movies back in the early days where if one sucked, you had to wait two years for another one and you'd say, I really like superhero comics and people would be like, what, like Green Lantern?

And you'd be like, no. The better one. The better one they made. Yeah. So this is going to write off any version of this? I mean, if it's bad, but we don't know. I think it looks kind of fun. So I went going to like write off any version of this for. I mean, if it's bad, but I mean, we don't know. Like, I think it looks kind of fun.

So I went on. That's what I thought. I went on the Twitters and I asked people, are you a Terry Pratchett fan? And yes or no. And if you are or not, what did you think of this? Edward has said, I'm not a Pratchett fan and judging by this trailer, I never will be. Whoa. That's pretty good.

Let's see. Michael says, was a huge fan in my teenage years and to me this looks like one of those rubbish low budget straight to TV fantasy movies that are made for some inexplicable reason. It does look a lot like the TV show Merlin. It does a little bit, yeah. Which is not without its charm, Merlin. Yeah, right.

I liked the Sam Neill version from the 90s. Ackerwood 40 says, it looks like Pirates of the Discworld. I can imagine a drunk Johnny Depp wandering through, ignoring animal immigration rules and not looking out of place. Sure. Richard says, I'm going to go in and enjoy it, but down the line become irrationally angry at it. Mm-hmm.

Oh, my friend McKinley, who has a great newsletter that you can sign up to called The Whippets. Have you talked about that? I have, yeah. She said, let's see, she's a big fan, I knew that, and it looks like they're trying to do something new and interesting and I'm for it because the straight adaptations have been boring as hell and not captured the chaos energy.

Maybe it won't work, but at least it's trying something. Oh, I see what you're saying, yes, yes, yes. And I think that's true. And to me this looks like they're going to be skewering modern tropes. Like as you said, it looks kind of Game of Thrones-y and it looks kind of steampunky, like weird fiction kind of stuff like that. And I think if you went in and you're like, oh, it's wizards and potions and spells and that sort of stuff, I think people would be like,

what are you parroting here? Where are we at? Yeah. Right? But don't you think also, I don't think we've really seen like that kind of wizards and potions and spells in live action really, have we? It's always like a dirtier world.

Yeah, I guess that's true, yeah. You know what I mean? Wouldn't it be fun to see like a wizard in a big starry coat for no reason or whatever? Yeah, yeah. Anyway, I think as someone who's never, I don't know anything about this, whatever. That's true, yeah.

I think it looks kind of fun. Again, as someone who's like read enough of it to know how. Ten specifically. Ten-ish. Enough to know like how it works. Yeah. I'm like I think this would work better. And, I mean, you know, if it gets reviewed well,

maybe they'll do something else set in this world and, like, tip it slightly more towards the regular. Like, maybe this is kind of like the darker underworld of that universe and you could go, but on the other side of the city, it's kind of more fun. So this strikes me as, like, Hitchhiker's Bit fantasy as well. Is that, like, the vibe of the books? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay, cool. Also she goes on to say, I've been really bothered by all the people saying I'm just upset because Discworld or some character is so important to me as though it isn't important to people who aren't upset. Oh, yeah, yeah. You know, people are like, well, you know. Well, I think if you're a fan of anything, you should always be upset about it. I think so too, yeah.

That's my motto. Yeah. Gleam says, I'm not familiar with. I think so too, yeah. That's my motto. Yeah. Gleam says, I'm not familiar with the source material at all, but to me that looks great. Cool. Joe says, I'm a big Pratchett fan and I honestly don't know what to make of this. Part of me is really upset at this, but the other half is kind of intrigued. Well, they got you.

They got you, mate. Yeah, yeah. Cool. All right, we'll see when that comes out. There you go. I'm excited to give it a whirl, yeah. There was actually one more trailer. It was Animaniacs. They're back. I didn't see. What are they skewering in that comes out. There you go. I'm excited to give it a whirl, yeah. There was actually one more trailer. It was Animaniacs.

They're back. I didn't see. Who are they skewering in that trailer? It's somebody famous. Jurassic Park. Oh, yeah, Sam Neill, right? Yeah, they do that scene when they see the Brachiosaurus or Brontosaurus, the long neck one.

Oh, yeah. But it's like the Animaniacs or whatever. It's going to be controversial. Never a huge fan of those three characters. Internet? I don't know if that's. Pinky and the Brain, I'm there all day. But like those three.

Freakazoid? Is he in that world? Is he in that show though? No, he's not. Yeah, I like Freakazoid. He's like pre-meme internet man. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but no, I was more. Well, that's Pinky and the Brain did get its own spin off as well.

Like it got a proper show eventually. But yeah. Oh, because they were all. Animaniacs well, like it got a proper show eventually. But, yeah. Oh, because Animaniacs had a whole bunch of short things. Okay, right, right. No, there was the girl who liked the cat or whatever. I can't remember. The main thing I remember is Piggy and the Brain from those, yeah. Just me?

No, I think a lot of people are like, I don't know how I feel about the Animaniacs, you know? Yeah. There you go. Maybe there's a reason they were locked up in that water tower. Yeah, crimes. Yeah, crimes, right? Wasn't that the point, though?

Yeah, they killed the president. That's why they were in that tower. Oh, no, they killed all the Warner Brothers. Yeah, that's right. Oh, no. Yeah. So the Sudbury Star, though, was reported. They had an interview with Sudbury Star.

Sudbury Star? I don't know. This is just that interview. It'll make more sense if you say it in a Cockney accent. The Sudsby Star. There we go. Thank you. Tatiana Maslany says, this is about She-Hulk,

that actually isn't a real thing and it's like a press release that's gotten out of hand. That actually isn't a real thing. Oh, so I've copied the same thing twice. But she's saying that she's not She-Hulk. That's how these things get out of hand. Somebody copies the same thing twice. That's so true. But's not She-Hulk. That's how these things get out of hand. Somebody copies the same thing twice. That's so true.

But then the director of that show, whose name I can't remember, she retweeted a green heart with like the news when it came out. Okay. So I think there's a good chance that this is probably true. But maybe it broke too early. Maybe it broke too early, which we will talk about for something else that broke too early in a minute. But Michael B. Jordan, according to the Hollywood Reporter,

has signed on to produce a static shock movie. Oh, that's right. Says, I'm proud to be part of building a new universe centered around black superheroes. Our community deserves that. Outlier Society is committed to bringing, I think that must be his production company, to bringing to life diverse comic book content across all platforms.

We're excited to partner with Reggie and Warner Brothers. I read you in Warner Brothers. I knew Reggie when I lived in Tanzania. It's not here, not there. I just like to talk about how I've traveled. Yeah, no, I get it. That is a new thing to this show. Okay, so I shouldn't be frustrated by this.

No, no, no. You're actually – Oh, interesting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I spent like half a year there teaching in Tanzania for free. I just want to point that out. Oh, that's really incredible. But really, I was paid in experience more than anything else.

No, that's true, yeah. Rich life advice. Yeah, yeah. And blood diamonds as well. Blood diamonds. And the kids were teaching me and all that. Yeah, out of mind blood diamonds. Yeah, yeah, that's right.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So anyway, there you go. Static Shock. So cool. Cool. I like it. And there's a whole bunch of characters in that universe that will be pretty great that I would like to see on screen.

People are like, is Michael B. Jordan probably going to play static? I'd imagine not because he's like a teenage character. But he could be a burnout. They could be like, he's a burnout. Oh, he's old static. But I don't think it will be. I think they'll aim for like a Spider-Man-esque kind of feel, I'd imagine. He's a burnout.

He's nothing now. He just sits over there and zaps people through the carpet for a quarter, you know? Just rubbing his feet and zapping people. Yeah, that's right. Do you have that one classroom at your school that could do that? It's got the staticky carpet for no reason. Get someone on the back of the neck.

No. Oh, no, Mason. He could be. You know what he could be? He's probably got an uncle maybe. I can't remember. I don't know anything about the universe. No, he could be Icon who is like the Milestone Universe's Superman

because, you know, people are always like, I could be Jordan. Why isn't he Superman? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And people are like, boo, for some reason, you know? That's right. Why can't the base of someone from the company? There is a black Superman.

You could do that. You could do it. But this would be cool. So there's one of the Milestone superheroes called Icon and he was like Superman. His spaceship crashed into Earth, but like in America during the time of slavery. And his ship like transformed him into the closest being,

like a copy of the closest being who was African. Yeah. And so he like experienced slavery and oppression. But he also has like Superman powers. And so now in the present. So he develops them as they. Yeah. And so in the present he pretends to be his great grandson.

So he's Augustus Freeman III. So all that's like very fresh to him obviously because he lived through it. Yeah, that's right. That's really interesting. Yeah, yeah. And then he meets a young woman and gives her some of his alien technology and they team up. And she's like, cool, man. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, and then he meets a young woman and gives her some of his alien technology and they team up. And she's like, cool, man.

Yeah, this is cool, man. This is actually great. This is actually great. So I reckon he could be Icon. Yeah, cool. I like that. I didn't know that character. Yes.

So Batman's firing on all cylinders. I don't know if you've seen. What does this mean? The Batman. It's filming. Oh, it's back. It's happening. There's a lot of photos of Robert Pattinson walking around set

and he's got the suit on but also a robe. Yes. Like a black bathrobe. Yeah, it looks good. Does it look good? Batten robe? There's a pun in that. Yeah, definitely.

People have sent them our way already. But the interesting thing from this is that there appears to be like a Halloween event. Oh, yeah. Which I guess lends to this maybe being a version of the long Halloween. Yeah, but one of the costumes is. Two of the costumes. Oh, there's a Superman costume.

There's a Superman and a Wonder Woman, which means that they exist in this universe or at the very least they're comic book characters in this universe that are just in comics. I thought this might have been like a closed universe. Me too. I think that's cool that what does that version of Superman look like in this universe?

Yeah, right. Is he mean? Michael B. Jordan. Could be. Yeah. Wait like in this universe? Yeah, right. Is he mean? Michael B. Jordan. Could be. Yeah. Wait a minute, Mason. Yeah. That's a great idea.

Oh, okay, great. Thank you. Yeah, I mean, it could also be that it's a universe where it could be the situation where, like, there's a Superman and a Wonder Woman and the public know them, but Batman is the urban myth kind of situation. Yeah, right. I like that. Oh, but then people would dress up as Batman, wouldn't they know him. Yeah. But Batman is the urban myth kind of situation. Yeah, right. I like that.

So nobody, oh, but then people would dress up as Batman, wouldn't they? Yes. Yeah. But they wouldn't know what he looks like, so they'd dress up as big bats. Also, though, but if there was like a lunatic beating up people or, for all you know, murdering people, would people dress up as him every Halloween? Yes. Yeah, but not like in the way that people dress up as Superman.

Yeah, right. Like you come to a party and people will be like, come on, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What are you doing? He's a lunatic. Even Bruce Wayne thinks he's a lunatic. He said it at a dinner party to me. Yeah, you'd be one of those people who shows up at a party

as a guy Batman beat up, you know, and people will be like, that's a bit poor taste. Those people are in the hospital. Like, no, he beat me up on the way here. Yeah. I'm a bank robber also. We're at a criminal party. Criminals. go uh cool that makes that in that just what is your what is your uh what is your guess do you think they're fictional characters in this universe i think they're real

okay i think warner brothers are putting enough stuff in movies or it won't be addressed to be like, what do you want to see? Yeah, I think maybe, I think it'll be. I don't think they'll Dark Knight like close the universe. No, I don't think there'll be any, I don't think also there'll be any overt ref, there won't be any overt decision either way in the movie. Nobody will be like, oh, you're dressed as real superheroes, Superman and Wonder Woman because then it's definitive.

But they put enough breadcrumbs in there that they could decide that they exist later if they wanted to. I think it also might be one of those things that doesn't even make the cut of the film because it's an extra in the background. I remember there was like the Robin that looked like the – there was a Robin R in one of the Dark Knight movies that someone was holding up at the football game. It might have been Dark Knight Rises.

And people were like, that's what Robin is. And he was, I guess. Yeah, that's true. Not related to that. But in the final cut they were like, that stands for really good football. People were like, oh, boo. Boo for really good football. So snow cancers, finally.

We're getting some snow cancers. What? Snow cancers. Finally, we're getting some snow cancers. What? Snow cancers. Snoke. Remember? We talked about Snoke. What did you think I said? I thought you were saying snow cancer.

We're not getting snow cancer. I don't want that. You're not allowed to get it. Yeah. What happens when you punch Frosty too hard? You get snow cancer. Yeah, exactly. If you break the surface, there's just all cancer.

And you were like, finally, and I'm like, I don't want this. Okay, so answers to the question of what's Snoke's deal? What's going on there? So as far as we knew from Snoke in the movies, he turns up in The Force Awakens and he's like, I'm the boss. And everyone's like, yep, you're a big hologram, so that checks out. And the second one he gets cut in half and he's murdered a lot. And then in the third one he turns up in a Snoke tank,

though there's multiple Snoke tanks. They're like, is this guy a clone? What's it do with this guy? Is he a puppet for Palpatine? Is he not even like, is he, you know what I mean? Is Palpatine just like making him walk and talk? Or is he, can he operate independently? Yeah. Like, has he been built by

Palpatine and he's been given like the urge to do evil? Yes. Like, has he given him some prime directives? Yes. Because apparently according to a soon-to-be-released Star Wars fact book, he's an artificial genetic construct concocted by the resurrected Darth Sidious to be his proxy in power.

Snoke has free will but his actions and goals are still orchestrated by Sidious. So that answers some questions and raises other questions. Yeah. So free will means that he might not even know that he's not in charge. He might not even be Force sensitive. He might be like channeling it like he thinks he is, but Palpatine is doing.

Because you can't clone Force sensitive people. Or you can because Palpatine is. I don't know. But maybe he's the exception. They didn't really answer any of the questions in the movie. But this book did answer some other questions I'm not sure I'm aware of. Anakin was born on Tatooine, which apparently he wasn't. Oh, I don't know.

I didn't know that. I don't have that fact here. But what I do have here is that this is a page on Rey from this book. In George Lucas' original outline, she was a 14-year-old girl named Taryn. In his subsequent iterations, she would briefly be named Thea and also Winky. Yes. Winky.

I think that's something from... Winky! I think that's something from... That might be from one of the Ewok things. I can't remember. Right. Either movies or the TV show. Ollie, stop licking your bloody cushion, mate.

You're causing quite a ruckus over there. When writer-director J.J. Abrams came aboard, he simplified the names to placeholders. Kylo Ren was the Jedi killer. Thea became Sally. Yep. Finn was called Harry, and the character that would be Poe was John Doe. Yes, that was an interesting one.

Sally became Kira, then Echo, and finally Rey. I like Echo. Echo's good, right? I think Rey's a good name. That'd be thematic somehow. Echo's. Yeah. But then when she's in that cave and she's doing the snapping,

people are like, that's a bit on the nose because her name is. That's right. Anyway. Who was that? Was that Sylvester Stallone in the theater? Yeah, that was a bit on the nose. That was a bit on the nose. I was a big fan of this franchise.

This is a bit gauche even for me. That's not good, is it? It's very good. You could be the voice of Rambo in Mortal Kombat 11. Well, Stallone's doing it, so I can't. Oh, is he? Was that him? That's him. Sounded bad. Well, he doesn't care. No, that's true, yeah. What do you think? Bruce

Willis would have done a better job? Oh, bring in John McClane in Mortal Kombat 11. You can make him, because there's a cop in one of the Mortal Kombat's. He's got a nightstick. He's like a fool, that guy. He's got the worst costume. What's his name?stick. He's like a fool, that guy. He's got the worst costume. What's his name? Striker.

Striker. Awful. Dumb backwards hat. You bring in John McClane, like you do the coming up with the new combat pack, and then when you actually download it and you get the game, you select a character, he comes into the thing and he's like, I'm leaving. Because it's Die Hard 1 John McClane. He's like, I can go, so I'm going to.

What's the Die Hard John McClane that sticks around? I was going to say it's 4 because he's not hungover. Yeah, but I don't want a John McClane without the widow's peak. That's why you get one and he leaves. Or you get two and it's John McClane and he's always in the ejector seat of the plane. So he's flying about. That's pretty good.

Yeah. I saw it was on one of the streaming services. What's his name? John Cusack. It was a poster for a John Cusack Bruce Willis movie. And it's just the worst Photoshop thing. I'm trying to find it now. Is it recent?

No. I mean, but it's recent to a thing. It's called The Prince. And everybody in this poster, well, not so much Bruce Willis, but it's Patrick, Jason Patrick. But if you look at John Cusack and Jason Patrick, it looks like their faces have been Photoshopped on the wrong way. Like they've flipped them.

Yeah, maybe they have. It doesn't fit like at all. Oh, my God, the bottom left one. Is that Jason Patrick? Yes. That's the worst thing I've ever seen. Yeah, maybe they have. It doesn't fit like at all. Oh, my God, the bottom left one. Is that Jason Patrick? Yeah, yes. That's the worst thing I've ever seen. I know.

Yeah, they. It's to match shadows. They've flipped them or something. Yeah, they've photographed him looking left. Yeah. Or looking, yeah, left, but they needed. No, they photographed him looking right and they needed him to be looking left. Yeah.

And they've just flipped the faces. Everybody Google the Prince Bruce Willis and have a look at the poster. Yeah. Jesus Christ. That's incredible. Yeah, well, as we know from, like, Kevin Smith stories, Bruce Willis doesn't pose for posters. Yeah. And he clearly hasn't here.

And neither did the other people. I don't know what this is. Jason Patrick, you were great in Speed 2. Mm-hmm. Just kidding. He might have been good in Speed 2. I don't know. There you go.

I know you didn't like Sandra Bullock though. The boat was the star of the show in my opinion. Stuart crashed with that dog. So anyway, that's our Snoke report for this week. Nice. Spider-Man 3 has begun production, Mason. Oh my goodness. Whatever that's going to be called.

But that's not the only news Spider-Man 3 related. Go on. Fandom Wire broke the news that off the back of Doctor Strange joining the project in some kind of mentor multidimensional role potentially. Yes, yes. Both Andrew Garfield and Tobin Maguire have signed on reprising their roles as various Peter Parkers that they played in Spider-Man. How do you feel about that, that they're jumping back in? It's blowing my mind.

Is it blowing your mind in a big way? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So apparently they're going to show up at the end to help defeat the many villains that are happening across dimensions, including Electro. Well, that's spoiled, hasn't it? Yes, it has. It's spoiled for everyone, for us.

Yeah. Viewers, people who are wanting a surprise. Because if they do show up, we'll be like, yeah, we knew the ending years ago. But if they don't show up, we'll be like, yeah, we knew the ending years ago. But if they don't show up, we'll be like, oh, what happened to Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield? I mean, we knew the ending and you changed it. You sons of bitches.

Release the cut we wanted of this. That's right. So we knew Electro was involved. Jamie Foxx has confirmed that. And people were like, why would Electro be in that version of Electro be in this? Yes. But off the back of this, I want to talk about whether

or not you think it's a good idea, but there's more news related to this. A representative from Sony said, those rumoured castings are not confirmed, which to me says this is probably happening. Yeah. Because they would have just said, no, we're not doing that. Uh-huh. But it seems like they must have locked it in, right? Or at the very least they're close to.

I think so, yeah. Because otherwise you just wouldn't say anything or you'd say no. Here's another thing though. Go on. Grace Randolph has reported as well that she's hearing that Tobin Maguire, real name, doesn't want more money for the role. He wants more screen time. He wants more vegan nuggets.

Vegan nuggets. He wants more screen time out of the suit so he can really act in the film instead of swinging about, right? Yeah, right. And one of the ideas is to have all the Spider-Men swing into Times Square at the end. Okay. Crash into each other.

That's right. Just three wrecking balls of meat whacking into each other. Who's the strongest? We'll find out. They all just tumble into the middle of the street and people just start screaming. So here's my concern with this. They time cop it.

They also just sort of meld together. Oh, like a big gross boogaloo thing. Yeah, but it's shooting webs out. Screaming. Screaming. It's got four mouths for some reason. Because people really like the scene at the end of Far From Home where Spidey swings MJ around and she's like,

oh, this was stressful and I hated it. Yeah, yeah. Except they're like, let's make everybody feel that forever. All the time, yeah. Absolutely. They really did that. They swung him for a lot of that. That's a real swing.

You get that sense in the movie. I watched it recently. Here's my problem with this potentially. Go on. If you're making a Spider-Verse movie, two concerns. Oh. That was quick. Thank you.

Someone had a second concern very quickly maybe you want to build the whole movie around the three of them being together and not a final act reveal yeah if we're if we're doing this yeah let's let's do it properly you know what i mean let's have them interact for the entirety of the movie at the very least i think you need to have some clues built into the rest like if they show up at the end, that would be a fan service thrill for people, but it would also be like if you – Is this just portals, like the portals thing from Endgame? Yeah, if you don't know –

But worse? If you were too young to remember the previous Spider-Man movies, you'd be like, what is this? And it wouldn't work narratively. You'd be like, oh, some more Spider-Man show up. That's right. Or can more Spider-Man show up at the end of the next one? It's going to be five Spider-Man.

No, Mason. Oh, okay, right. Well, that's my other concern is because I feel like – What's Japanese Spider-Man show up at the end of the next one is going to be fine. Oh, okay. Right. Well, that's my other concern is because I feel like Japanese Spider-Man, he's got a big robot. That would be rad. Yeah. Right.

I feel like if you're doing Italian Spider-Man, he's not real, but he's real. You know what I mean? He's not real, but he's real. He's not real. Well,

it's not a real thing. It's like a parody. Yeah. But it shows up. Yeah. But it shows up. Italian porn Spider-Man. He probably exists.

He definitely exists. I think they hinted at the Italian Spider-Man, who's got a shotgun, by the way, might turn up in the next Spider-Verse movie. Good. The animated one. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, it's like with the X-Men apocalypse problem, right?

So apparently when Matthew Vaughn was on board with the X-Men movies, he wanted to do first class, then do something in the middle, and then do Days of Future Past. And team them all together. Yeah. And it would make sense because they've met before, I guess. That's right. Because then if you go first class, Days of Future Past,

where you bring back everybody, you get that big hit and everybody comes on board because it's all the X-Men that you love from across the generations coming back together. But then after that you go Ap apocalypse and it's the 80s. Yeah. It's like, who gives a shit? You know what I mean? So if you do this, what do you do next?

Yeah. You have to tell a completely different kind of story because you can't match the scale of something like this. So then you'd have to do like the Venom suit, Kraven the Hunter, Sinister Six. But also it seems like this could be the Sinister Six. Might be. Yeah. I think my concern with this would be is this a lot to put into it

and you can never, you can't pull back necessarily. I mean you can. You could just be like. Yeah, you can. Yeah. I guess you can't go, well, the dimensional gates are closing because that would ruin the concept of the multiverse they just invented. Yes, that's right.

But I guess, I don't know. You could lock those dimensions away I guess somehow. Yeah, but my point is though, I'm saying you could narratively yeah, you could write it closed so it doesn't happen again but the next story isn't as fun, is it? Because people are like, well, Tobey Maguire

where's he? Right, uh-huh. Do you see what I'm saying? What you could do though is make the other two Spider-Men fundamentally unlikable and so when they leave, the fans are like, oh, thank God. Boo. Thank God Tony McGuire's gone. Boo, actually. Yeah, boo, actually.

Secret of love, actually. Yeah. So I don't know. Do you think that's a valid concern? Yeah, I think so. Because Sony have made mistakes with Spider-Man before. We know that. That being said, they've clearly got a way better grasp on it now.

Than we do. Yeah, definitely. But, you know, being folded into the MCU, it works way better. I guess the next play after this would be Venom, right? Oh, yeah, and they have to build a convincing reason for Venom to hate Spider-Man utterly. Something about photos. Yeah, photos.

He took too many photos, all the wrong photos. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Plages, plagiarised photos. Photos, yeah, great stuff. So I don't know. That being said, photos. He took too many photos, all the wrong photos. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Plages, plagiarised photos. Photos, yeah, great stuff. So I don't know. That being said, great. I've wanted to see this and I will see it. I'd also still like to see a Spider-Man 4 with Tobey Maguire

but definitely not an amazing Spider-Man 3. Wow. Even though I like Andrew Garfield but no thank you very much. Maybe that's just me. The other thing is because it's filming so soon, we might be getting a teaser or a first look in December. So there you go. I hope it's just the last scene.

It's just three Spider-Men laying a punch in the big bad guy and like, we did it. We did it and we're only in this scene and you've seen it already. You've seen it. Yeah. Do you remember when The Amazing Spider-Man 2 was released? They released something like 67 minutes of footage Yeah I remember

Or whatever beforehand Again lessons alert Whatever I know That's just some Some concerns of mine That are probably unfounded People will come back

And say Or very founded We're rarely wrong In this instance We've never been wrong Whenever we're cynical We're usually right That's true

Yeah Anyway Next bit of news Mason Oh I've got one bit of news Okay We maybe save your bit of news Save it Just Oh, I've got one bit of news. Okay. We maybe save your bit of news. Save it.

Just segue for something later maybe. I've got one bit of news that I just wanted to put in. Normally this would go into our other podcast, one of our other podcasts. We've got this covered where we talk about clickbait articles. This week, though, we did a book club. That's true. Oh, that we're talking about?

No. Oh, this isn't the news that we did. There's a new episode up and it's about infinite crisis. We do have that. It's right now on bigsandwich.co. Crisis on infinite earths. Yeah, that's what you're talking about? No. Oh, this isn't the news that we did a – there's a new episode up. No, no, this is – no. Infinite Crisis. We do have that. It's right now on BigSandwich.co. Crisis on Infinite. Whatever it is. Yeah, who cares?

It's shit. Anyway, keep going. Sorry, go on. One of us liked it and one of us did not like it. This would normally go into the podcast where we talk about clickbait stuff. Yeah. But this article gets straight to the point and it's exactly what it says on the tin, so I like it.

Okay. It's about the movie No Time to Die, which, of course, is filmed. It's in the can, as it were. But speaking of cans, Daily Mail reports how 8,400 gallons of Coke kept 007 on his motorbike in No Time to Die. What? See this? Did you hear about this?

No. Okay. Everyone knows how partial James Bond is to a vodka martini shaken but not stirred. However, the making of the latest 007 film involved vast quantities of a rather different drink, Coca-Cola. The producers of No Time to Die paid £55,000 for 8,400 gallons of Coke to make cobbled streets at one filming location less slippery for a motorcycle stunt.

Whoa, okay. Crew members spent hours splashing around Matera in southern Italy ahead of a spectacular bike jump over a 60-foot wall. But my favourite part of this... They wrecked the bricks? Were people like, you wrecked the bricks? Yeah, yeah. Is that what happened?

No. Oh, they didn't, like, wreck the bricks. They were like, we love what you've done here with the Coca-Cola. You didn't wreck the bricks. The official drink of Italy, Coca-Cola. It ends in vowels. Yeah, yeah. What official drink of Italy, Coca-Cola. That's right. Ends in vowels. Yeah, yeah. What I like about here, it says,

for the spectacle, stunt writer Paul Edwards had to hit a 25-foot ramp at 60 miles per hour to clear the wall and land on the cobbles. Stunt boss Lee Morrison said star Daniel Craig had come up with the idea and told him about it in a late-night phone call, adding, I spent nearly €60,000 spraying Coca-Cola around Matera. I've been spraying Coca-Cola on slippery surfaces for a very long time. What? I don't know.

Daniel Craig said that. It's a little bit confusing, but I think the stunt boss said that. He's saying that he went and did that. Well, maybe he's not. Because Daniel Craig, no. Because it says Daniel Craig had come up with the idea and told him about it in a late night phone call. Yeah, that part is separate though, isn't it, from the next part?

No, but I mean why would, because that would suggest that Daniel Craig told him about it and then the stunt boss was like, yeah, I know. I've been doing it for years. I thought he's saying that off the back of Daniel Craig doing that, telling him that that was his solution to get it into the movie. Oh, I don't know. I don't know.

I'm confused, but I love this. What website is this? I love the idea that Daniel Craig is some sort of insane late night ideas man. He spends his holidays though. Yeah, they're like, okay, Daniel, you've done a great job on this scene. Very intense. Like take the next day off or whatever. You know, just regather your strength.

Remember, you know, we've got those scenes tomorrow. And then he's just awake all night just being like, but they're gonna the stuntmen are gonna slip on the cobblestones what am i gonna do what i love about this as well he's got the he's got the whiteboard he's got the red string and he's like i'm just god i'm so tired though i better drink get some caffeine from this coca-cola what i love about that is also, like, we all have flights of fancy in the middle of the night that we write down, and then we wake up and we go, terrible, actually. Yeah.

I messaged Matt in the middle of the night the other day because I had an idea for a supercut. I'm like, oh, my God, I'm going to message him. And I'm like, I'm sorry, this doesn't make sense. It's like three in the morning. But if I don't send this to you, I'm going to forget. Yeah, yeah. I won't say it.

I won't spoil it, basically. Oh, yeah, nice. But most people are like, these ideas don't go anywhere or mean anything. But this one. Daniel Craig wakes up and he just looks at a note on his phone. It says Coca-Cola cobblestones. And he's like, I don't know. I don't know about this.

Anyway, he told Total Film Magazine that the drink also makes things look very clean after it washes off. Well, they don't. They use it as an industrial cleaning agent in some places. Isn't that a rumour? Yeah, but anyway, I just thought that article was very, very good and fun. I agree. Good on Daniel Craig for doing that.

He'll never pay for a Coca-Cola in his life after this. Or drink one. No, he'll never drink one. No, that's true. But also it says here that Unusually Bond will not appear in the cold open, the action sequence that traditionally precedes the title credits. Is it going to be the new 007 maybe?

Yeah, maybe. I think it might be, yeah. Maybe they'll just play the start of Goldeneye and be like, we've made good ones too. That's right. If you recall. Come on, guys. Guys.

Anyway. That's fun. Yeah. That's fun, Mason. It is fun. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London.

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I'm with the show, I reckon. Last bit of news, Dexter is back. That's right. This is going to tie into our topic for this week, which we will talk about, but it's getting a 10-episode limited run. Okay. And so, yeah, this was always going to happen. Was it?

Yeah, I remember at the time. I don't know whether I mentioned it on the show, but yes, it was very much open-ended. Oh, yeah, right, right, right. The original? Yeah, I remember at the time. I don't know whether I mentioned it on the show, but yes, it was very much open-ended. Oh, yeah, right, right, right. The original idea was, you know what, we'll do the segment. We'll talk about the segment. Let's get into the segment. Let's talk about the segment.

Okay, but I saw a lot of comments around this idea that were like, are they going to ignore the last couple of seasons? A lot of people were like, they should definitely do that. I think there's a way to do it to make it in continuity. So what we're going to talk about this week is TV shows that didn't necessarily stick the landing. Some of these I've got on this list are like, this is okay to

me. Some of them because I haven't watched them. Some of these we watched and were total crap and we 100% agree. Some of them just sounded funny and we're going to read them verbatim and be like, that sounds dumb. That sounds dumb. TV's dumb, isn't it?

We found one list, just FYI. It's a BuzzFeed list and it's like, it's the worst TV endings ever. And I'm like, oh, this will jog the old memory. I've seen a lot of TV finales and they don't explain what the endings are. Not at all. It's just like this person going, this ending was crazy. Yeah, they just copy tweets. But that's BuzzFeed for you, isn't it?

Or it's just like a meme. Like they'll post a meme or a gif of someone going, oh, seriously? Or whatever memes are these days. I don't know. Okay. So let's start with Dexter, though, because if you remember the end of Dexter.

I don't, here's the thing. But I do. I obviously do. But I didn't. Do you or did you not, Mason? I cut out of Dexter early. I cut out of Dexter like season three, I think. Some told me. Good idea. I think. Something told me.

Good idea. Some little birdie told me, a little dark passenger in my head that tells me when TV shows are bad. That's the skill it has. Was that the end of the John Lithgow season? Yeah, maybe. Yeah, because there's like a Jimmy Smith season. There's some good bits in it, but then he falls in love with his sister

or vice versa or something. I don't know, but they're married in real life. Then they're divorced in real life, right? But they still work together. That's fine, I think. But if I recall from people going, oh, my God, the ending, and I'm like, whew, dodge that bullet, most of the main characters have died or like the-

A bulk. The sister dies. Yeah. He drops her off in a boat in a thunderstorm. And there's a baby, right? And it's his baby? He's got a kid who's like three or whatever. And he gives her to another serial killer to raise because he's like,

I can't be raising kids because my son is going to grow up like me, Dexter. And knowing that, knowing that I could change that, instead I'll give my baby to this serial killer who has no morals. Yes, that's right. Presumably, right? And I'm presumed dead in a storm because maybe everybody knows who I am at this point. Yes, I think.

But I'm a lumberjack and I live in the woods. That's right. But so there's a way you could do it where you just, he could throw away line, I'm back from the woods. Okay, sure. I've been back for four years now. I've got a photo of him here with his woodsman beard on. Is that a real beard or a stuck-on beard?

It looks like a stick-on beard. He's good. He's a good Dexter. I remember you got me on it because you were like, it's Batman but he's a serial killer. I'm like, great. The concept at the time was just like... Revolutionary.

It was revolutionary. And it looked like it was a great-looking show and a great setting in Miami. And like, you remember the intro? Great shirts. Great shirts. Great like. Surprise, motherfucker.

Does that fit? Dokes, that's right. Yeah, great. Great Hoya Bera shirts. Great Miami fashion. Beautiful hats. And like a real visceral opening sequence. Yeah.

The title sequence. Cutting the fruit and whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And what I guess is good as opposed to like a lot of shows, I feel like a lot of these now exist anyways. James Remar, the guy from Sex and the City. Sex and the City or whatever. Couldn't get a boner or whatever.

Couldn't get a boner or whatever. It's his dad. Now he's the dad. Maybe he'll show up as a ghost or a flashback and he's like, Dexter, you know you shouldn't be killing people this way. And he's like, fuck off, dad. I'm a murderer. You did this.

But then at the end of the episode he's like, actually, you were right, Dad. Anyway, let's put this murder slide away. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, anyway, all good stuff, but you're right. Yeah, it really bottomed out hard. But again, it's salvageable. I think we should also determine whether or not

you could bring these back. Yeah, but what I'm saying is in what capacity? Definitively a bad ending is what you're saying. Yeah. I think, well, the problem is as well, because what I think the show runner wanted to do, and also Michael C. Hall, was that the entirety of the show was somewhat of a flashback. Okay. And he's sitting about to get a lethal injection. And he's explaining how he met their mother. Yes. We'll get to that. We definitely will. But he looks out to the audience and it's all the people

that he's killed over the years. Oh, yeah, right, right. And it's kind of a great ending. But, of course, they already knew at that point that this is something that we do want to revive. Yeah, right, okay. Which is now what's happening. But what do you think they're going to do to bring it back?

Like what? You can't just – I mean, he can just be like, I'm back. I think they're going to keep it continuity. I think they're going to start him in the woods and he has to come back for more killing. Okay. For whatever reason. And he ends up framing somebody else. I don't know.

It's 10 episodes. You can do it. Oh, do you think they'll, he'll be like the person who everybody, you thought I did all these murders, but actually it was, I just did some of them. It was any of the other killers that are in the show. Miami is a hotspot for serial killers. In the book series, and I don't remember if it got changed back, but if I recall in the books it was revealed in one of the later ones

that the dark passenger in his head was the devil, like an actual the devil. And I'd have to look into that. No, he was found in like a shipping container filled with his mum's blood or something. That happened too, but also the devil. Also the devil. Because I also get the sense in the show it's not really a dark passenger.

It's just him. Like it's all him because he's not really – he's talking to the audience. He's not talking to the subconscious. No, that was more – I've read the first book because when the series came out, I'm like, ooh, this will never be bad. I'll get into the books as well. When did it start? I'm going to look it up.

It's more of like I'm having a conversation with somebody else. Yeah, absolutely. When did it start? Let's have a look. It's got mostly good reviews. It started in 2006. Oh, wow. And it went to 2013.

Yeah, we might have talked about this because that's just when we started doing this show. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, 10-episode limited run. I'd be interested to see it, to be honest. And why not? But again, maybe you do wipe the continuity because a lot of the people in it are dead.

Yeah. What other shows, Mason? How about this one? I love shows. I've got a question for you. Do you remember the TV series Life on Mars? Which one? But yes.

Well, that's the thing. Do you remember that? Did you watch the British version? I did and I might not have finished it because it went to a different time period or something. Oh, right. And you can't understand how clocks work and you had a bedtime, obviously it went to a different time period or something. Oh, right. And you can't understand how clocks work. And you had a bedtime, obviously.

Didn't it jump a decade or something? The second season. The second series did. It was the second. And it was a different Bowie album? Yeah, it was Ashes to Ashes. So here's the thing. So for people who don't remember it, which includes you,

it was about a police detective in London in the modern day named Sam Tyler who was played by John Simm, who later became the master. And he gets hit by a car and then when he wakes up, he's still a police detective in London but it's the 70s. Yes. And he's got a life in the 70s and he's like, what's going on? And so like it's sort of a, the episode's like a police procedural where his modern police methods sort of, you know,

they clash with the other cops, including this guy, Gene Hunt, who's like his. The hard-nosed detective. Yeah, he's like a police chief and, you know, Sam is like, we should do psychology. And Gene Hunt's like, no, let's crack everybody's heads together. We should keep this semen until there's semen detecting kits. And he's like, we're not keeping semen actually, freak.

Yeah, we're going to bash people until they admit they've done a crime, which is how this works. But, like, the larger story is, okay, well, the mystery of the whole series was, okay, is he a modern-day detective and he's in a coma and he's imagining. Because there's hints towards it because you hear hospital noises. You hear hospital noises and you hear voices and you're like, okay, well, is he in a coma and he's imagining the 70s?

Is he actually a cop from the 70s and he's having a mental breakdown and he's imagined the future? Perfectly. Yeah. Or has he actually travelled back through time? Yeah. And the ending to that was kind of ambiguous. Yes.

And he re-arrives in the modern-day world but nothing seems quite right kind of thing. In the last scene he seemed like leaping off a roof. And it's like does he want to go back through time or does he want to die because, you know, something's wrong, you know, kind of thing. But the sequel series though, because it's a different cop goes through time.

But do you want to talk about the American version first? Well, here's the thing. I want to talk about the American version. The American version is the same-ish. The Gene Hunt character is played by Harvey. The guy from The Invisible Man. No. Harvey Keitel.

Yes. The late cop. Yeah. And the premise is almost identical except the ending is different because I guess they were like, well, if you've seen the British version, you don't want to be. And also I think they were probably like, well, the American version doesn't want an ambiguous ending.

It wants a definitive ending. So the definitive ending for this was. And I think they rushed it as well. I think it was getting cancelled. The definitive ending for the American version was the main guy, Sam, I think he's still Sam in the American version, wakes up and he's on a spaceship on the way to Mars. Life on Mars, I get it.

Because he and all the other characters in the 70s are all astronauts and they're in cryosleep and they're in a sort of shared virtual reality universe, but it's malfunctioned. Instead of just being like, hey, we're chilling out, it's like the 70s and crime. His dad's his boss. Yeah, exactly, the whole deal kind of thing. And people at the time were like, well, that's really dumb.

This sucks. Oh, and when he steps onto Mars, he's wearing a 70s shoe. Yes, that's right. So it's also like, is this some fuckery as well? Yeah, right. And people were like, this is dumb. It should be more sensible and be more arty and ambiguous like the British version because the British version is always better.

But there was a sequel series to the British version. It was called Ashes to Ashes. Yes. And there's another detective, a lady detective, who's reading over all the case notes of Sam Tyler. Like when he woke up, he sort of like he did lots of interviews about what happened to him before he jumped off the roof. And so she knows all the characters that he yeah he talked about you know that he remembers from the 70s and then she gets shot by a hostage taker and then when she wakes up it's the 80s

but like gene hunt and some of the other characters are still around and then she has to figure out okay well am i imagining am i in a coma I'm imagining this because I read all the reports? Or, again, have I travelled back through time? But the ending to that one reveals that they're all in limbo. They're all dead cops who live in limbo. And they're like, we're the restless dead because we didn't finish all our cop journey. Oh, and he knows.

Like, the boss knows, doesn't he? He's like, it's my job to funnel people into hell. Into the limbo for some reason, yeah. I did know this. Which is just as stupid as the American version, but just for a different reason. So I'm giving the American version a pass. I think they're both fine.

Yeah, I can't argue with that, but I did just find a headline as well from April of 2020. Life on Mars creator confirms third and final season in the works. Hello. Hello indeed. Hello, hello. A cop's going to hit their head and final season in the works. Hello. Hello indeed. Hello, hello. A cop's going to hit their head and end up in the- 90s.

It's the 90s. It'll be the 90s. Oh, yeah, but the 90s, but they're in the cast of the- Hello, hello. Hello, hello. The British naughty World War II sitcom. Look, I'd love to talk about it, but it ended exactly as it started. Oh, my God.

Like shit, probably. But naughty. But naughty. But naughty. Very naughty. Yeah. Anyway, yeah, it'll be the night. I forgot how dumb that was. What Bowie songs came in the 90s?

I can't remember. Oh, it'll be the one that he does. It'll be called I'm Afraid of Americans. It'll be the one he did with Trent Reznor. Oh, that'd be cool. Yeah, right? Okay, there you go. Okay, yeah, that makes sense to me.

And they bring back the previous cast because they would when there's a time travel and limbo they all live in limbo but it's also not limbo anymore they'll just be like it's not limbo anymore it's time because i think if you build the third season they're like we gotta solve crimes you'd be like it's fucking limbo who cares yeah and also well that's the thing like what is this shit they didn't really do anything in limbo it wasn't like but then we all we could we're all going to escape into the real world or what they're not yeah just in limbo does It wasn't like, but then we're all going to escape into the real world or whatever. They're not.

They're just in limbo. Does that mean that guy came out of the coma and was alive and then killed himself again? Yeah. What an idiot. Not a good system is what I'm saying. That's a bad system, right? Because if-

Gene should have been like, FYI, you're in limbo. But you'll be out of it. Yeah. Don't throw yourself off a- Don't throw yourself off a Don't throw yourself off. Because you don't get to come back. Unless that was also a hallucination. I don't know.

Yeah, I guess. They'll explain it in season three. Anyway, I'd watch another season of that. Yeah, why not? I didn't watch the second one. So Sopranos. Oh, yeah. Full disclosure, I haven't watched all of the Sopranos.

I've watched every episode of the Sopranos. Well, I do know the ending, and that's kind of why I haven't. I kind of like it, though, the ambiguity of it, because nothing happens. Yeah. So if you don't know, it's well as for all of this obviously. Well, I mean, well, nothing happens or does it is the question because it ends with the Journey song, Don't Stop Believin',

is playing and it's just the various characters getting ready for, there's going to be a big old family dinner at the restaurant and then like a door opens and then cut to black. And you're like, okay, well, what happened? Did an old enemy of Tony's come back and shoot him? Was it Robert Patrick who owned the sporting goods store? It might have been Robert Patrick who owned the sporting goods store. It might have been that Russian that got shot in the snow

and then they tried to track him down in the snow and he never came back. They found him and they shot him again. Shot him again. And made sure of it. That's right. Maybe he's in mafia limbo. God. Forget about it. But people were so upset. Yeah. Which is, I mean... I think that would

play better now. Oh yeah, definitely. Yeah, but I mean that's... You know, as i understand it like that was the showrunners it wasn't like they ran out of money or anything like that it was just like this is this is how we want this to go and it's kind of like yeah and it's like well what did you want a like this is it's about a like a a broken man who's had a horrible childhood and a horrible life and he's he's worked his way up in a horrible business and he sucks and he sucks and he's and he's and he's a broken and he's psychologically and he's trying to fix that

but he's still in the mob and is that going to end in a shootout necessarily? Exactly. If you loved the show, the movies, analyse this and analyse that. This is an extension of that. You're going to love it. That's right. You know, mob bosses but they're in therapy or whatever. You know what?

I think that's initially why I didn't get it. It was going for a couple of seasons before I started watching it. And I think it's because I'm like, is this just a serious version of Analyze This? Which came first? I think Analyze This came first. You might be right. Let me check.

I don't think you might be wrong, actually. Well, then how did I? Because they both probably were out by the time. Yeah, maybe. Analyze This was 1999. Go on. Soprano started in, wait for it. Okay, I'm ready.

1999. Oh. Parallel thinking. Wow. Jesus. Just somebody out there being like, two people out there being like, I mean it would be cool to be in the mafia, but a bit rough on the old brain pan, you know what I mean?

Totally. Yeah. Speaking of, here's the post if I analyze this. That's some classic De Niro mugging it up, mate. Good stuff. Never seen it. I had a troll on my Instagram page the other day. I love trolls.

Being like, oh, you suck about whatever. And I'm like, and I clicked on their page to see what their deal was. And they follow me, first of all. They followed me, and then they made a mean comment. And I wanted to be like, and I just blocked them, but I wanted to be like, you know, you don't have to follow me to say the mean,

you can just say the mean comment. But he followed, you know, guy or girl, but it's a guy. And he followed three people, and I'm like, oh, well it's going to be you and me and like the Weekly Planet Instagram. But it was me, some rando, and's going to be you and me and like the Weekly Planet Instagram. But it was me, some rando, and Michael Imperioli from The Sopranos. And I'm like, does he – and I wanted to go onto Michael Imperioli's page and be like, has he said a mean thing about – Is he just doing mean stuff?

Is he following people and then saying mean stuff to them? I don't know. Maybe. Maybe, but it's good to be in that – Must feel nice. Does that mean he can't see what you post? Yeah, I've blocked him. So is that how it works with Instagram? If you block somebody on Instagram,

it deletes all their comments that they've put on anything. Oh, I wanted to see that. And then they can't find you, I guess. Or they can find your page, but they can't see it. But they can go to it without following you. Yeah, I think so. Cool. What a loser.

Anyway, Mason. Yes. Sopratos, good on it, I guess. How I Met Your Mother, let's talk about it. Oh, that's a good one, yeah. That one crushed people. A mostly good show, I think. I think it was, yeah.

It's also like a lot of these you've got to look at them from the perspective of the time they came out, you know, and it's like, this is a bit probo and whatever. Yeah, but I think this one maybe less so, but it was also, like, quite innovative in terms of, like, flashbacks and flash-forwards. Yep. And, you know, all the cast were great.

A lot of people were like, I don't like Josh Radner as the straight man, but it was fine. He's a pretty solid straight man. You need a Ross. Yep, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, yeah, so they had this, I think the problem with this is they set up the ending from the start.

They did, yeah. And then they deviated wildly during it to great effect. Yeah. So if you haven't seen How I Met Your Mother, the framing story is that it's a man explaining to his two teenage children – Bob Saget. Bob Saget. The voice of. Yes.

How he met their mother. And so I guess right at the start they filmed a bunch of like framing video of the teenagers. Because they don't age. Yeah, because they were like, well, we don't want at the end of – the initial plan I think was for it to go to like three seasons. And they were like, well, we don't want to be filming stuff three years later and the kids have aged three years in the telling of this story.

That would be weird. So they filmed the ending of like the kids specifically at the at the in the first episode of the show the main character meets a woman and sort of falls in love and they you know they have they have a whirlwind romance and then maybe it doesn't you know is it going to work out or not work out and at the end bob saget says and that's how we met your aunt robin and the kids are like oh boo this, this story is still going to be, it's going too long kind of thing. Right. And at the end of the seat,

the series, the premise was going to be that the actual mother that he meets dies. And then he go, he, he go, the kids are like, but what about aunt Robin? You should marry.

You've always loved her. And then he goes and he meets aunt Robin. The problem is that the series became wildly popular. Yeah. And so what happened was most of the characters evolved beyond that scope. And Robin ended up with Barney. Barney. Who was played by Neil Patrick Harris.

Yeah. Who started out as like this one-note Lothario, like gross kind of guy. And then he. Feelings. Yeah, feelings. And he evolved and he became a better character. And so at the end they were like, well, they're together. Yeah. Because neither of them want kids. Yeah, feelings. And he evolved and he became a better character. And so at the end they were like, well, they're together. Yeah, because neither of them want kids.

Yeah, yeah. And then they've realised that they've got more in common than not. Exactly, right. But then they had to force them to break up. To break up because they were like, they had to make a choice. Do we not keep up this framing story and use this video we already have or should we just kind of like do a new thing? And they were like, well, we've committed to this.

And the show is very successful. But the problem also with that is that they also in the final season, which by the way is set over like a weekend, which I also didn't like. Yeah, the weekend of the wedding. Because they weren't supposed to make that season in particular. I think they had to pay everybody a lot of money. It went for like nine years. It did, yeah.

So Kristen Melotti came in as the mother. nine years. It did, yeah. So Kristen Melotti came in as the mother and somehow, despite all the hype, she lived up to the type of person that would – because it's like who is this woman? How could she be so great? Is this worth it? This nine years of storytelling and my dad telling this boring story.

And she was great and you believed it and they fell in love. She was great in Palm Springs as well. That's right, exactly. And then she gets cancer and dies and then he steals the blue trumpet or whatever the fuck it was. Yeah, right. Fred Horn. Yeah, and so they were basically.

And so it felt cheap, like why did you even bring in this amazing character? Yeah, exactly. And then they were like, okay, well, we've decided that he has to go after Aunt Robin. And so they were like, well, let's just say Barney's a jerk again and he cheats on her and they get divorced. Is that what happened? Yeah.

I thought that ran its course or something. Yeah, maybe. I don't remember. I don't remember really either. Anyway, I remember being like, oh, boo. Yeah. But also I would have thought a funny joke would have been to just get the kids back and they're nine years older

and just be like, this was a really long story you told. It's so long and I hate it. We're all 30. Yeah, yeah. You and I hate it. We're all 30. Yeah, yeah. You, us. Right? We're all 30. Yeah.

So there you go. Or just re-dub it. Re-dub it, yep. Just turn the camera around and it's Josh Radner or whatever and he's telling the kids from the back or whatever. Didn't mum not die? And he's like, oh, yeah. She didn't die.

She's more powerful than ever. She's destroying the city. They look outside. She's 100 feet tall. Shooting lightning. I've got to go and fight her. Samurai powers go. He's got a big robot samurai suit and he's got a katana shooting lasers.

That would have been way better. Right? I feel like Scrubs did a similar thing. I think Scrubs dipped wildly in quality after like season 5 I think that last intern season is actually not bad I'm okay with it I actually didn't finish it but the season before that

like the final in the hospital season No it's good Hang on I can't remember I think it's 8 or 9 It's 7 or 8 is a massive drop I'm telling you like the last one is good and it kind of gets Elliot and JD back in a way together that works. There's that really beautiful finale where he's watching the projector

of how he wants his life to be. Yeah, yeah. And like maybe this fantasy could come true and Mooch comes back and it's good. I think it's great. Yeah, the season before that they'd run out of steam in a way. There's a rent-a-fair one where they go into a weird fantasy world. Yeah, and it was the sort of season where everything gets so self-referential

but not in a good way. So I'd be like, you're the wacky character. Like people would be saying, like, you're the wacky character and you're the serious kid. He's a mean janitor and he's like, well, this week I'm learning a lesson or whatever. That's right. Yeah. But mostly a good show. Yeah. I didn't finish Interns, so

I don't care. Also, I never saw that as the final season. I always saw that as, like, a new thing. But I don't know. So my point is I don't care. Nice. Remember when Dan died at the end of Roseanne, probably? Yeah, I remember that. Yeah, it was all a dream. Do you want to explain this one?

Okay, so if I remember correctly... I can do it if you want. The last season is they win the lottery and everything's great. But then at the end... It took away also the financial woes of it. Because the whole thing was that they were a working class family. They weren't like a

fun family matters kind of home. They were like real problems and chit-roll and flannel. That's exactly right. Just wall-to-wall flannel. And Dan just looks like he's going to have a heart attack at any point. And he does. It turns out he dies. And that's the big reveal at the end and that the entire prior season

where they'd won was just Roseanne imagining what life would have been like if. And she was a successful writer maybe? Yeah, maybe i didn't really watch it but but is the twist yes they brought it back writing out that season because they're like dan didn't you die and he's like actually i didn't die or whatever recently i got brought back to get by the power of writing and books and then Roseanne in real life got cancelled. I remember that. And then she died and they wrote her out. Yeah, nice. So the show, and maybe it's going now, is Roseanne-less.

Yeah, it's called the. It's called Dan and His Kids. No, it's called. His heart's fine. It's called whatever their family name is. The Stevens? No, it's the Roseanne. No, that's her real name.

That's her real name. Roseanne the. Connor. The Conners. There we go. The Connersons. Let's check if that's her real name. That's her real name. Roseanne the, the, the. Connor. The Conners. There we go. The Connersons. Let's check if it's still going. Here we go.

Yeah, American sitcom, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Nice. I know people apparently don't like the new season without Roseanne, but maybe it might be good also. Uh-huh. I don't know. So it did have a season. It does have another season coming up.

Yep. Apparently. Uh-huh. So either they've got something in the can or they're going to keep going. There you go. Here's one for you, James. I love movies. I would love to hear your opinion about this.

I don't know if you've actually seen this episode because it ended with one episode because it's a British series and that's how they do it. They're like, it's a new season. And you're like, okay. And they're like, it's two and a half episodes. Is it the David Brent movie? No, it's Sherlock. The Benedict Cumberbatch Sherlock.

I was off the Sherlock bandwagon. Me too. I've seen every episode. Me too. Yeah. I think we even talked about that on this show. I think we did, yeah. But it's bad.

It's bad. It's the worst episode of anything maybe. It's so bad. I liked that show so much initially. Yeah, the first episode is quite, there were so many seasons, but there was four. Was there? I think there was.

And some of them had ten episodes and some of them had none. I don't know how many. And there was a Christmas episode that only existed in our minds. There were four seasons. Was there an actual Christmas episode? There was the one where they imagine themselves as like Victorian era, like traditional. Yeah, yeah, yeah, That was a Christmas one.

Sherlock. But the first episode is good of the first season. And then it's diminishing returns. I think there are some other good ones in there. I think the inclusion of Moriarty is quite good. Andrew Scott as Moriarty I like. I go back and forth. I actually like his performance even though it's nothing like book Moriarty.

Sure. But I just thought it was just a. More kung fu like the movie. Weird lunatic. Yeah thought it was just a- More kung fu, like the movie? Weird lunatic. Yeah, he was a weird lunatic. Weird lunatic. And he shot himself to- He shoots himself for no reason.

And then he just keeps coming back every- Mostly on video. Yeah, yeah. But the- Okay, so here we go. Season one, three episodes. So season one, two, three, and four had three episodes each, and there was a special in the middle.

Yeah. So there you go. One, two, three and four had three episodes each and there was a special in the middle. Yeah. So there you go. The last episode it's revealed that Sherlock has a secret sister. An older? Yes.

No. Secret sister who's even more of a mind palace genius than he is and also a secret. And can do voices. Yeah, and also a secret brother. But he imagines him as a. He might have been a friend. Oh, see, it's a secret friend. Who he thought was a secret. And can do voices. Yeah, and also a secret brother but he imagines him as a. Or maybe he might have been a friend. Oh see it's a secret friend. Who he thought was a dog. A dog.

Called Redhead or Redman. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's awful and it makes no sense and it's all just. It got too mind palisade. Yeah, it's all mind palisade and Moriarty's still it because apparently the idea was that Moriarty only had an obsession with Sherlock because she'd, he'd met the sister.

At a wee prison. And she'd mind-palanced him so hard that he'd become obsessed with Sherlock and that was his whole deal. And again, there's a great, if people haven't seen it, I think I've mentioned it on the show, there's an H-Bomber Guy video on Sherlock. White Sox or whatever. Yeah, yeah, and apparently, and I didn't know this at the time but apparently the last

episode was so bad that the Sherlock fandom was like this isn't really the last episode this is deliberately so bad oh they QAnoned it this is deliberately so bad but actually there's another there's a special coming out

of a different show but it's actually secretly a Sherlock episode because one of the actors' names was like Emily Watson and they're like, well, that's a clue that this is actually going to be a Sherlock episode and it's going to turn everything around and it's going to reveal that actually what we thought was bad, it was bad on purpose, but actually this is going to, and then it just came out and it was just a different show

and they're like, oh. And then he made Dracula. Yeah. Which started good and then. Also bad. That's how he does it. That's how he does it. Anyway, look, it is bad.

I think it's cast well. Yeah. I think it's good. I think it's like there's good stuff in it. But here's the thing, that's the thing though. I don't know if I would include this just because the finale was about on par with a lot of the episodes. Okay.

And if you like Sherlock. I think it's easily the worst one episode. Yeah. Oh, there's like one where he goes to like an Asian underground market with swordsmen. I think that's not a good one either. But that got so like it built upon its law in the worst way. Yeah.

Yeah. But again, like. How do you mind palace someone? I don't know. But I mean, you know, the characters, the actors, the reason it got through so far is the actors are charismatic and it's fun. It brought Benedict Cumberbatch to the eyes

of the public. Yeah, exactly. And if people enjoy it on that level, yes, but I think that episode, like a lot of people like this is a great show and then they ruined it. I think it was about that same level of quality for most of it. But you know, there you go. We talked about this, you know, recently-ish, but Game of Thrones. We will be remiss not to mention it.

I think Game of Thrones, and I'm sure I've said this, if you just did 10 in the last series and stretched out that Khaleesi turns evil in a flashback, no, not even a flashback, in a previously on, which I think you mentioned at the time, but like previously on, and then it shows all the hints that she was going to go insane. Yeah, right. And then she just goes insane and murders half the city.

I think if you spread that out, it could have been better and different. Like you built the jealousy that she had that people loved Jon Snow for flying a dragon and rescuing him, even though she's the one who brought her army across the world and most of them died and rescued really everybody. And, you know, you build that side of it. You work into the family relations of that more.

And, you know, then you do the twist that she kills everybody. I think that would have been a much more compelling ending. An idea that I had was the reason that she turns on everybody in King's Landing is one of her dragons is killed and they're all cheering and, like like stabbing it on the ground. Like the regular people. And she's like, fuck this. Like I flew across the world for this.

And they don't care. Because they don't, by the way. Like that's the thing I guess which I liked about Game of Thrones. The regular people don't give a shit who's in charge. That's true. It doesn't matter to them. You know? So I don't know.

I think, I know people think it dipped in quality as soon as it went off book, but for me, that wasn't necessarily the case. It definitely sped things up and character motivations got a bit iffy, but I think with some few tweaks, it would have been better received and maybe brighten up that one episode. Sorry, what? Brighten up that one episode. The really dark episode. The real dark one.

What was happening? I don't even know. Where they were like, actually, it's your TV. Yeah, I remember that. It's your, yeah, the really dark episode. The real dark one. What was happening? I don't even know. Where they were like, actually, it's your TV. Yeah, I remember that. It's your problem, actually. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I've put my TV's brightness up to 150

and I still can't say anything, so thanks for nothing. What about you? You were never a massive Game of Thrones guy anyway, were you? No, I was not. I was not overly invested. But I had hoped that the last, I'm like, well, most of the main characters are dead. Yeah.

That shortens the number of characters that I have to remember. So it'll be, this will be fun and breezy. But again, I didn't, yeah. I think it also got. Even as I'm not a huge fan, I'm like, this is, why has she gone crazy for no reason? I also think it went fan service-y in the worst way. When they were like, well,

the mountain has to fight his brother or whatever. Yeah, exactly. But it's like, he doesn't. No, that the whole. You're only doing this because it became like Clegane whatever. Yeah, exactly, yeah. But it's like he doesn't. No, that the whole – You're only doing this because it became like Cleganebowl. That was like the thing. Well, yeah, I always thought the whole arc of the not monstrous Uzi version,

the not Uzi brother, was like he doesn't need to fight anymore. Yeah. Wasn't it? They also made some critical errors to be like, well, Daenerys, like she forgot about the Iron Fleet or whatever. It's like why would she forget about that? That's a massive omission. And a dragon got shot through the neck.

And even I remember, because people would also watch the after shows and then go, oh, I see your train of thought here and it's nonsense. Sure. This is why you're not doing Star Wars anymore, baby. What are they doing now? They got a huge Netflix deal. They did, didn't they? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So I don't know what they're making. But they were going to do that, the Civil War never ended show or something. Oh, that's right. And people were like, that sounds awful. And I don't know what they're making. But they were going to do that Civil War Never Ended show or something. Oh, that's right. And people were like, that sounds awful and we don't want that right now. And they're not. They're not good. Do you think maybe have they discovered some sort of gravy train where they're just going to be like,

we've got an opt-out clause for this Netflix deal. Maybe. We get $10 million if we don't do anything. We'll just hop to Hulu or whatever. Just jump around and never make anything ever again. But one of the moments that I thought was really telling was that when the mountain is killed by his brother, the hound, he's like, well, the hound destroys him by throwing him

and his brother into fire, which is the thing that he fears the most. And he's doing that because he's overcome that. Or he hates his brother more than he's afraid of fire. But if you remember what happened, he pushes him through a solid stone wall and he tumbles like 100 feet into fire and they're like, how poetic, how brave. No, he would have fucking hated that. I'm pretty sure that he didn't realise that there was a big pit of fire

down the bottom. So just shit like that, like whatever. I guess I did hate it more than I thought. Seems that way. It's your true feeling. This is coming back though. Yeah. I mean, it's getting a prequel.

Of course it is, yeah. But 100% they're going to do a sequel to it. There's enough people left alive and Jon Snow's living in the woods with his mates or whatever. And Bran's. A computer on the throne. He's the throne. He can live forever.

Because his story is the best story He's got the worst story He wasn't even in a season Because he's got the worst story Bad story Remember that? He disappeared for fucking Like a year

Yeah Yeah He's got the best story No Mason No who's got the best story? Oh I guess he has all the stories Yeah Um I don't know

Like Peter Dinklage would have been Like a better choice Yeah he was all over the place Oh he's gone all over the world And he's not like your action man or whatever. Or you give it to a slave. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Like any of Daenerys' slaves that didn't get beheaded. That's right. I don't know. Give it to the hound. Give it to the mountain. Give it to one of those Spaniard types. Yeah, give it to one of the sexy Spaniards. Yes.

Any of them. Yes, charm the other kingdoms, you know. Ooh. Yeah, so I don't know. Fucking whatever. I've got one here. I think we should go through some ones we haven't read, just briefly.

Like haven't looked at yet. I haven't seen yet. Yeah, sure. Merlin. Did you watch Merlin? No. This one just says, again, this is from the BuzzFeed list where they've just quoted.

So this one just says, I will never forgive the writers for the final episode. So many issues. Arthur dying when he's supposed to have this great destiny, killing so many of the great characters off, and the whole van driving past at the end thing. When I rewatched the series,

I skipped the last couple of episodes and read fanfics instead. That's a tweet from somebody. Powerful stuff. A van drives past at the end thing. I need to see this. Do you reckon maybe- I didn't just say this. Do you reckon-

Yeah, please. Do you reckon- So, James, if you remember the game Monkey Island 2- I do. The Monkey Island games were these point-and-click adventures set in this crazy pirate world, right? But at the end, it's revealed that the main character and the main villain were just-

They were two kids lost at a fun park, and they were making all of it up. Oh, okay. And then they retconned that. But not really good at magic. They ret were making all of it up. Oh, okay. And then they retconned that. They retconned that eventually. Yeah, yeah, okay. But I like the idea that all of the series Merlin was just like some kids at a playground or whatever.

I don't see the van. And just a van goes past. I think Guinevere is queen. Okay. It says van driving past at the end thing. I don't see the van. It seems fairly unambiguous. It says a van. Maybe Google the end thing. I don't see the van. It seems fairly unambiguous. It says a van.

Maybe Google Merlin van. Yeah. And you'll find some beautiful vans with like wizardly airbrushes on the side. Oh, my God. Yeah, I am getting that, so I need to narrow my search. Merlin TV series. Van. I'm not seeing nothing, man.

I don't know what they're talking about. Well, that's's perfect isn't it that's a perfect Buzzfeed list is Melanie coming back in 2020 people ask it's getting season 6 full new series maybe I don't know

it is it's getting a season 6 great number 5 Alf the family spent the whole show protecting ALF, only for the series to end with the FBI capture. Only for the dad to get arrested for drug trafficking charges. Also, ALF ate cats, so I think he should go to hell. Yeah, so they all got arrested and they brought him back

in an ALF project miniseries. But the family weren't in it? They weren't in it. So presumably they were executed in Guantanamo Bay or something. For aiding and abetting extraterrestrial life, yeah. Yeah. And Elf got away with it. Yeah.

Melmac, right? Melmac. The planet Melmac. Yeah. So I didn't watch the end of this, but that 70s- Gordon Shumway. That's his real name. That's his real name.

Yeah. I didn't watch the end of this, but that 70s show, Sophie Grace had left to do Spider-Man 3. Yeah. I think. Ashton Kutcher had left, but both of them came back and cameoed. And what people are really upset about is Jackie and Fez got together. Whoa.

Then they just pushed two people together and went whatever, I guess. So there you go. I love it. Isn't it? What do you think about the Seinfeld finale? Oh, I just watched that recently. I know a lot of people really hate it, but in those last two seasons without Larry David, they're like... Oh, no, actually, I didn't watch it.

I watched a Legal Eagle video on YouTube where they break down the case. Because the case, if you recall, in the episode of Seinfeld, there was a good Samaritan law in that they go visit a town and there's a good Samaritan law where they see a man getting mugged and not only do they not help,

they mock him on video. Yes. And then the- That's very 2020, Mason. Yeah, I know, right? Ahead of his time, Seinfeld. Cancelled at least. Bloody hell.

People are too sensitive. I agree with Jerry Seinfeld when he says that every fucking week on his show. Right? And, yeah, basically what happens is a parade of, like, previous, you know, guest stars on the show show up and be like, as character witnesses, be like, these people suck. It doesn't hold up legally.

You can't do that. Oh, really? Yeah, can't do it. Way better than a flashback, though. Oh, yeah. Which there is some of, maybe. There are flashbacks, yes. But, yeah, I think it's a good way.

I think it's very fan service-y. But also I'm like, yeah, they should be in jail. They absolutely should all be in jail. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah. For dating teenagers. For dating teenagers in real life, maybe. They be in jail. They absolutely should all be in jail. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah. For dating teenagers. For dating teenagers in real life maybe. They all did it.

Maybe one, all of them? Yep. No, just one of them. Just to be clear, just one of them and just Jerry Seinfeld. Dated a 17-year-old when he was like 38 or whatever it was. Just to clarify. Just to clarify. None of the others did.

They're no longer together, are they? I don't know. I don't think they are. I think he married someone else. Okay of the others did. They're no longer together, are they? I don't know. I don't think they are. I think he married someone else. Okay. Yeah. Wow. He could date her now because she's probably not 17 anymore.

Yeah. But he's probably not interested. Yeah, and also he's in jail. Yes, that's right. Are we talking real? What are we talking about? I don't know anymore. I don't know.

I've come around on Smallville since he made a reappearance. Okay. Also, there's a final episode of Seinfeld they didn't curb, but it's mostly improv. Oh, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's fine. You're saying because Smallville was a series all about Clark Kent

not becoming Superman, and at the end he briefly becomes Superman from a great distance. And you see the symbol up close. But then when you see him in one of the Crisis on Infinite Earths episodes, they go to his farm and he's chopping wood and Lex Luthor's like, here's some kryptonite and I'm from Two and a Half Men, which I do want to talk about. Okay.

And Clark Kent just like throws it away and punches him in the face because he's giving up his powers. Yeah. And to me that went, okay, yeah, well, that's the kind of guy he is. He's not regular Superman. I don't want to be Superman Superman, which is also a valid version of Superman. So look, even though I think it's a massive cop-out to not do it properly,

I think that speaks to that character in an interesting way that works for me and kind of makes me go, yeah, this show I gave up watching. That's fine. Okay, sure. I might go with it. Yeah, right. And if I remember correctly,

it turns out there's enough superheroes in that world that he didn't need to be Superman anymore. Yeah. And also the comic book version, he is Superman. For a bit, maybe. So if you want to read that, you can read that. Absolutely can. Yes.

What do you reckon they paid Tom Welling for that? I don't know. A hundred grand? Let me strike that dude in the face for real. I'll do it for free. John Cryer. Let me hit him once. He's an award-winning actor.

John Cryer. Yeah. I like him. And he's in Superman 4. He is. He's an award-winning actor. John Cryer. Yeah. I like him. And he's in Superman 4. He is. He's Lex Luthor's nephew. And now he's real Lex Luthor. Oh, my God.

Yeah. How do you feel about one of the finales of The X-Files? I'm talking about the main one that happened in like 2001 or 2. Do you remember it? No. Also a courtroom scene. Is it? Well, they got replaced.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Mulder and Scully got replaced by Doggerton Reyes. Doggerton Reyes. Reyes. No. Also a courtroom scene. Is it? Well, they got replaced. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Mulder and Scully got replaced by Doggett and Reyes. Doggett and Reyes. Reyes. Yeah. Who were fine, to be fair. I remember one when Doggett got trapped in an underground lair with a lizard man who could spit poison.

Do you remember that episode? Yeah. Do you? Yeah, vaguely. Okay. And then Mulder's on trial for all these FBI crimes. Yeah, and his sex crimes. And his sex crimes, unrelated.

But, well, maybe not. But anyway, so the truth, which is the point of the show, I guess, was a date for the alien invasion. Yeah. And it turns out to be like 2009 or whatever. Anyways, it doesn't happen because there's a movie, which I think comes out just before. Do you remember that?

But it's like Billy Connolly is a pedophile and a priest. Oh, I didn't watch that one. And someone's sewing people's heads to dogs. It's not very good. Okay. And then there was a revival TV show which people initially liked and then went boo actually. I still liked it.

Did you watch the whole way through? Yeah. And how did it end? There's the son. The son's in it. Duchovny's son. Not Duchovny. Fox M way through? Yeah. And how did it end? There's the son. The son's in it. Duchovny's son. Not Duchovny. Fox Mulder's son.

And what is he like? He's like, oh, maybe I've got powers or something. There's powers and maybe he becomes a phantom killer murderer guy or something. Okay. I can't remember. Big fan? No. So it's not good.

I like the funny episodes. I like the funny ones. There was one with Kumail Nanjiani and who's the dude from Fly the Conchords? Murray. Rhys Darby. Rhys Darby, which is like he's a lizard man who gets bitten by a human and turns into a human. I think that's fun.

Yeah. So, yeah. Also, there's going to be a new series. We talked about it's animated, but it's the X-Files. But it's like. Oh. But it's X-Files, but like the people who they're not good enough for the X-Files but it's like but it's X-Files but like the people who they're not good enough for the X-Files so they get the

even worse cases. Also it's Star Trek Lower Decks but X-Files. Yes but X-Files so there you go I want to ask you about this because I read the finale and I went oh my god fascinating and I vaguely remember this so the TV show Enterprise which ended in 2005 stopped Star Trek for four

years. It stopped TV Star Trek for even longer. Because it's set largely during The Next Generation. Correct. So the show ends by the crew from The Next Generation, including Riker and others, going on the holodeck and watching their final adventures. Yeah. And it's also set during an episode of The Next Generation from 1994.

So they're not really in it. No, it's mostly a Next Gen episode. Yeah, yeah. And it was, I guess, supposed to be a homage to all Trek, I assume? Yeah, but it was just like if you were an Enterprise fan, you're not getting a lot of Enterprise closure. I don't know why they did it. I mean, I guess the homage thing.

Apparently everybody thought it was a really good idea at the time. Okay, right. Did the cast of the – I guess the cast of Enterprise were like, oh, we can get a half day for this. Yeah, exactly, yeah. Do you think it's a Scott Bakula thing? Because Quantum – a lot of people were unhappy with it. Oh, we'll talk about Quantum Lake.

Oh, you've got Quantum Lake. I've got Quantum Lake. Oh, you've got quantum leap there. Okay. What, now? Maybe, I guess. Sure. That was a segue that I was doing there.

I never watched it, but the premise of quantum leap was a guy quantum leaped. Yep. And the idea was that he would jump into different bodies through time. Exactly. And he would help them with problems. He had to right wrongs, yeah. Yeah, but also he had a hologram man who would help him. Yeah, only he could see him.

Only he could see him. But also if he went in the body of like someone with no legs. He could still walk. He could still walk. A lot of people are big fans of Quantum Leap like you wouldn't expect. Yeah. Like just people our age, you know? Sure, absolutely.

You're like Quantum Leap and they're like, oh, my God, I watched every episode. I say Quantum Queef. That's what I say. Got it. Never really watched it. But so in the end he learns that he can return home, but in an epilogue a black screen

pops up and it says dr sam beckett with one t which is his name spelled wrong yeah never return that's wild why did they do that why did he do it i don't know don't add that yeah you just be like he made it i guess didn't he? Maybe somebody in the production team was annoying and really loved the idea of him getting home and then they were like, well, we'll show you. And they did. Yeah, they got him. So how did Sliders end?

I mean, everybody had already left the series, but how did Sliders end? Well, there is an episode of Sliders that is very similar because if you recall Sliders, it's also a dimensional hopping show. Through big tunnels. And they've's also a dimensional hopping show. It's through big tunnels. And they've got a damaged dimensional hopping device. It's random.

Exactly. It won't get them back to where they want to be. And then at one point they're like, we'll know if this is the gate. Yeah, we'll know if this is the original universe that we've gone back to home if the gate squeaks. Yeah. Because the gate at my house squeaks and none of the other gates have ever squeaked. I know this squeak, like the back of my squeak.

And then he goes, oh, it doesn't squeak. It isn't. And then rather than going into his house, they've got no time and they have to go back into the gateway. Because you have to get into the gate whenever it opens or you miss it for like a thousand years or whatever. Yeah, something like that. I can't remember.

Yeah. But then all his family come out of the house and they're like, boy, we sure did a good job all oiling this gate. Just oiling this gate. Boy, I wish our son. Jerry O'Connell was here. Jerry O'Connell was here because he would have cut this task time in half because he's a super genius, that kid.

Always picking up on clues and context clues. Speaking of, where is he? Where did he go? We don't know. We don't know. We don't know. I mean, but I mean, it's, you know, we miss him, but it's. And then they introduced his brother, the actor's brother. Yes.

Who replaced him in the show, but also they got mind melded together maybe. And they were the same character, yeah. But also he turned out to be his real brother in the, like, the show was he was his brother also. Yeah, that show's a mess. That really, that started out, man, that was a show that I would like. That was the only show that I liked. Yeah, and it just, but that was,

I feel that was a lot of shows in the 90s where they were just like, again, it wasn't a case of like we've all got to hold this together for the sake of the narrative. Yeah. It was just like I'm going to leave because you're not paying me enough or I've got a movie or something. And they were just like, well, we'll just clutch together. We don't care.

Yeah, we don't care. They probably did that with the pretender. We're just selling Burger King ads here. We don't have to do anything in particular. So true. Let's talk about I got two more, Two and a Half Men, a show I barely watched. I have one that I didn't watch, but I know you watched to the end and it might

be your second one. We'll do it. Is it lost? It's lost. Whatever. Honestly, it's like an emotional closure more than this makes sense as a closure. Remind me what happens again.

They all ruin Purgatory. For some of it. Right, right, right. But not all of it. So it's life on Mars. Yeah, because there's two different timelines in the last series and you're like, what's going on? Because one's like the real world where they're all running around

and sometimes it's the island and it turns out they had to wait for everybody to die to go to purgatory so they could all go into church and hold hands and walk into heaven together. But it was more about, as I mentioned, like the emotional journey and I think that also he nails it in both The Watchmen and what's the other show that Lindelof did? The Leftovers. Yeah, yeah.

Which are much better shows because I think he had more creative control and like you mentioned this but like how the Lost creators were just like whatever. We're just piling on mysteries. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And there's nothing. It'll keep people watching. And they're like how are you going to solve it?

And they're like we're not. Yeah. We're actually not. Yeah. They're going to have a he's going to fight the smoke monster but it's john lock and he gets stabbed and whatever fucking banging pilot though yeah i mean the pilot but also the pilot series which was the most expensive pilot ever because they disassembled a real actual plane and it's great and it was going to be michael keaton and they were going to kill the pilot but then it it became Greg Grunny Grunberg.

Because they were like, if we get Michael Keaton and we kill Michael Keaton, people will be like, but that's Michael Keaton. Yeah. So they didn't end up doing it that way. But then you'll have, because of the movie Multiplicity, there'll be a few Michael Keatons left so we can kill him again. That's right, it's a Multiplicity sequel. I'm like, if we keep watching this show, they'll just keep killing Michael Keatons.

But that also got caught up in flashbacks and it's like, do I need to see everybody's flashback four seasons in now? Do I need to know what Sawyer was doing as he was boarding the plane? What about Boone? Yeah, what about him? I don't know. Okay. All right.

Now talk to me about Two and a Half Men. So all I know about Two and a Half Men really is that it was Charlie Sheen for a long time. Yep. And then he had a falling out with the creator of the show, Chuck Lorre. Yeah. And so his character was like unceremonious. And a very public breakdown. Yeah. And he was unceremoniously killed in the context of the show, Chuck Lorre. Yeah. And so his character was like unceremonious. And a very public breakdown. Yeah, and he was unceremoniously killed in the context of the show, right?

His character was killed. I think he went to jail. He ended up going to jail because I actually watched the finale and how it works is. But then he was replaced by. Ashton Kutcher. Ashton Kutcher, yeah. Who's another handsome guy or whatever who lives in the house.

I don't know. They all just love, they just need a man who looks good in cargo shorts. And they did it maybe. Anyway, they're sitting there and they're like, I can't believe Charlie's getting out of prison for all his crimes that he did in real life and also bad bloke real life and also in this show. And then they're like, wow, Charlie should be back any minute.

Wow, there's a helicopter carrying a grand piano. Who would do that? Oh, that seems like something Charlie would do. And then they're like, wait a minute, Charlie had a grand piano and this helicopter's coming this way. Anyway, everybody thought we were going to get a Charlie Sheen cameo. Cut to the front door. You see the back of an actor's head who looks kind of like Charlie Sheen.

I'm ready. And then the piano falls on him and kills him. Nice. Then this is not, I'm not making this up. I need to stress this. The camera pulls back and they're on a set and Chuck Loray is sitting in a director's chair with his name on the back. And he turns to the camera. And he says, this is the movie Jiu Jitsu, Nicolas Cage.

And he says, winning. And then a second piano falls on him. Oh, Chuck Loray. And that's the end of the series. Wow, good stuff. And people were like, disrespectful. To who? Exactly.

To this terrible fucking show. Yeah. Who gives a shit? Nice. But, you know, every show is someone's favorite show. Yeah. Even though this is the worst show. And then it's like, dead man.

I feel bad for that kid. He got caught up in a weird Christian cult. I don't know if you saw that. Oh, maybe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. Because he got too rich too early and then. Well, I was going to say, I don't feel that bad because he's very rich.

Yeah, well, there you go. Yeah. That's two and a half men. I got one more if you've got one, though. I don't have one more. Well, you're going to talk about this one, though. Because it's the Saint Elsewhere universe. Oh, okay.

Well, I never watched Saint Elsewhere. Nobody did. No, but why is it important? Oh oh because it encompasses every tv show and movie ever made yes because because at the end of the series of saint elsewhere set in the the fictional hospital of saint elsmere yes it's revealed that the hospital exists within a snow globe and the snow globe is owned by a small autistic boy named Tommy Westfall. And because St Elsewhere crossed into other TV series, which crossed into other TV series. Oh, and they're like, what is Tommy even thinking about?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because he never talks. He just imagines hospital scenarios. Exactly. That's right. And so that suggests that every TV show in existence and everything that crossed over. So we are talking The X-Files, we are talking probably Scrubs, we're talking all sorts of shows,

exist all in Tommy Westfall's mind. Yes. Which, I mean, it's fun to think about, but it also overlooks the idea that I can imagine a thing that also exists in real life. So I can imagine a hospital, even though a hospital also exists and is real. Absolutely, yeah. You know what?

Yeah. So I've got here, it's called the Tommy Westfall Universe, which is constantly updated, and the master list has 419 different shows and movies. Give me some examples. The Addams Family. Okay. MASH.

Yep. Ally McBeal. Becca. These are just random by the way. All shows that end perfectly. Buddies. Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Clueless. Cheers.

Because if Cheers and Becca are in the same universe, that means there are two Ted Dansons. Yes, running amok. That both have different jobs. One's a bar owner and one's a cranky doctor. Dexter. Oh. All of the Doctor Who.

Yep. Everybody loves Raymond. It's always sunny. King of Queens. It's literally everything. Well, then, obviously. Power Rangers. Friends and mad about you.

Yeah, that's right. The office, both US and UK. That's right. Because they cross over. Yeah, I don't know how this works. Like I don't have the specifics of like how, but it's also Supergirl, which would also mean all the other CW stuff.

Yeah, yeah. Walker, Texas Rangers up here. It's everything. It's literally everything. A lot of TV series connect via John Munch. Yes. See, that is a perfect example because Detective John Munch from Homicide Life in that is a perfect example because Detective John Munch

from Homicide, Life and the Streets was also in Law and Order, but he also appears in a couple of sitcoms. He's in the X-Files. He's in an episode of the X-Files. So it might as well be the John Munch universe as far as I'm concerned. And you could even go like Simpsons connects to X-Files and, you know what I mean, and that branches into a million things as well. So Alf.

So this kid imagines all of this? Yeah. Good on him. I think so too. That's what I said. There's some really excellent storytelling that he's crafted here. The TV show 24, both from 2001 and 2010 and the 2014 season revival. Wow.

Good on him. Good on you, Tommy. Yeah, all good stuff. Good on you, Tommy. Yeah, all good stuff. Good on you, buddy. There you go. That's my last one, though. Well, we... But anyway, people were mad because it's dumb.

Just to be like, it's not real, actually. Yeah, but it's fun to think about, isn't it? No, I mean in terms of like that one show. Oh, right. People were mad that it was a bad ending because they just went, all those characters, nah. Yeah, yeah. They're not real.

But also, I want to be there when that finale came out and just scream into the areas, it's just a metaphor probably. Well, that's the thing. It could be just a metaphor probably. Yeah. Yeah. It's just a metaphor but all their stories are insignificant in a way when you consider something else.

Exactly. No. Also shut up. I wonder if Garth Marenghi's Dark Place ties into that. No, I don't think there's any links. No, that's a good show. People should watch that. There's a hospital. Yeah, well, that shut up. I wonder if Garth Marenghi's Dark Place ties into that. No, I don't think there's any links. No, that's a good show. People should watch that. There's a hospital.

Yeah, well, that's fine. Have you seen the spin-off from that, Man to Man with Dean Lerner? Is that like a... It's the interview show. Yeah, no, I haven't seen it. It's good. It's also good. I think there might be a second spin-off as well.

Let's look it up, James. Let's look it up. Which I have not seen. It's a great show that stopped because nobody watched it. It's only six, right? I think so. I follow the Garth Marenghi Twitter page where they just post clips and I'm like, this might be the funniest show ever made.

Yeah, characters who originated in the Garth Marenghi's Fright Night stage show. Did you know that? Oh, yeah, okay. I think I did know. It was like a Mighty Boosh situation, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everything about that show is funny.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. There is no, it's so yeah every joke lands it's crazy great yeah i'm not sure what they did i yeah i wonder i also some people hate it which i can also understand yeah i'm just gonna look up see what matthew holness did after this i looked it up the other day. Yeah, not a lot. He directed and wrote a movie in 2018 called Possum. Okay, I haven't seen that or heard of it.

I mean, he's in a bunch of stuff. He's Max in Toast of London. Oh, yep, yep, yep. He's in The Haunting of Bly Manor. Oh, there you go. That's great. There you go. Perfect.

And I love how everything is 80-yard. I watched it. No, Dark Place. It's like how everything is 80-yard. I've watched it. No, Dark Place. It's like literally everything is 80-yard. Yeah. Oh, it's so good. There's that shot, you remember, he walks up to the grave and it's just too long? Yes.

You know what I mean? Because the episodes are too short. Yeah. They filmed them too short so everything's in slow-mo. It's just fucking crazy funny. Yeah. But that's kind of the magic of like British TV series. It's like, well, it's six episodes,

so every single good idea you have about that just smushed in. Yeah, it's brilliant. All right, here we go, Mason. What is this? It's the What We Reading theme, but because it's the first episode, it'll be fresh. Nice. I'm doing the theme.

I'm doing the theme. Westworld. Two games. That is the first time I have done that. Oh, it was already annoying though. I don't know why. Don't say words over the themes. God damn it, James.

What have you been watching and reading? I started and finished the first season of Mr. Robert, finally. Oh, Mr. Robert. There's three seasons, is that right? Or ten. It's finished, though, isn't it? Yes. I like it.

It's good because people like it and I like it. Very good. And that's good enough for me. So you're in the same, you're relatable to the listeners who I believe also have watched and enjoyed Mr. Robert. I kind of saw some twists coming, which I won't spoil here. Yeah. Maybe I'd already had them spoiled for me.

Maybe that's why I saw it coming. There you go. But I won't get into it. How do you like that Rami Malek? He's fucking amazing, mate. Do you think he's underused in things? I mean, he was Freddie Mercury. Yeah.

So no. Okay. And he's in the new Bond movie. Yep. So no. All right. Do you think he's underused in things? You won an Oscar?

Underused in good things. Yeah. Did you finish all of Mr. Robert? No. I'm seasons behind. It stays good though, right? I don't know. I would hope so.

I'm loving Christian Slater as well. He's good, isn't he? I love him what he's about. I'm loving how people in the 90s are like, he kind of looks like Jack Nicholson. And I'm like, sure. Yeah. Yeah.

He's his own man too. That's right. He was in Cuffs. He was in Cuffs. He was recently in Dear John Season 2. I don't know if you saw that. Yeah, so there you go. Oh, wow.

What are you reading? You know what? Speaking of earlier about Terry Pratchett stuff, I finally finished because I started it a billion years ago, Good Omens, on Amazon Prime. Ah, cool show, right? It is a good show. And it's done.

And it's one of those shows where I'm like, I was a few episodes in and I'm like, this is really good. I'm going to devote a lot of time to this. I'm going to finish it. I'm going to get myself some free time and finish this. And I just never did. Yeah. But it's real good.

It's got that look of an Amazon show, whatever that means. Yeah, it does. You mentioned it before. It really does. I don't know what it means, but you know what I mean, right? Yeah, yeah. That and the tick and the boys. They've got a look.

They do have a certain look. But what is it? Digital film probably. That's probably it, yeah. Could be a different thing. An Amazon video comes up real big. Sure. It goes, ba-dum. Ba-dum. That's how you's probably it, yeah. Could be a different thing. An Amazon video comes up real big. Sure, it goes, ba-dum. Ba-dum.

That's how you know. Yeah, yeah. So you know it's done though. They're like never again. Yeah, yeah, that's fair. It's a cool ending. If you haven't seen it, it's like Supernatural but British and funnier. Yeah.

Though Supernatural is pretty funny as well. If you say so. I do say so. It's got good jokes about different burgers that Dean eats. Nice. I'm way behind on Supernatural. pretty funny as well. If you say so. I do say so. It's got good jokes about different burgers that Dean eats. Nice. I'm way behind on Supernatural. Well, everyone is. It's been going for 400 years.

It started maybe when I was in school. It was a really long time, at least university, which is a million years ago. And I started playing the video game Bloodborne. Oh, yeah. So welcome back to 2015, everybody. I saw your avatar boy. Yeah, I've made a slightly different avatar since then.

Why? I think his beard was too big, so I made a smaller beard. And I changed the hair. He had floppy down face hair. Yeah. I gave him like a smarter haircut, yes. Okay, cool. I considered giving him little glasses or little goggles,

but then I didn't. Because? Too much. Too much, I think, yeah. So you're saying your look in real life is too much yeah that's what you're saying it's too many things happening you could you could get rid of one of that i don't know which one maybe all of it no i hate that oh come on now what you're gonna have to shave your beard or my head or your head and then come back and i'll tell you which one works and i'll come back with no beard you'll be like, no, you've made a terrible mistake. The hair, actually.

But yeah, it's a game that's very different to games that I'm used to. There's no hand-holding to it. It's not the game Ico. That's a great reference to Ico. Keep going. I'm aware of Ico. But it's not even a game where you encounter a monster and they're like, now if you want to attack you've got to push this button and dodge with this button.

It's just, you have to find the clue, like these little like skeleton spirits come out of the ground and it says, read the note they're giving you and it's like press circle to dodge. And if you don't read that, you just don't know. You just play the game,

you don't know. And like the first enemy is sort of designed to kill you. Like the idea is like you go into this game and it kills you straight away and then you're like, well, I guess I'm going to die in this game a lot. And you do? Oh, yeah. Tons of times. Do you enjoy it though? Yeah.

You sort of feel yourself getting better. Yeah. Because it's fair, right? Not fair. It rewards persistence. Persistence and work. In a way. Like what I have noticed is like when you die in this game

and you go back to the start or the checkpoint or whatever, you go back through the level and you have to fight the – initially you're fighting a lot of townsfolk. Just mowing them down? No, they've got pitchforks and torches and bits of wood and cleavers and stuff. Yeah. It's pretty tough until you figure out what's going on.

Oh, I changed the guy's weapon as well. I started with an axe and I'm like, this isn't the weapon for me. So now I've got like a walking cane that you can stab with but it also turns into a whip. Sweet. And you can pick that from the get-go? Yeah, like right after you're killed by the first monster. Apparently you can defeat it if you're any good, but I'm not any good.

Yeah. And then you go into this like hunter's dream world and the spirits offer you these weapons and you can pick a melee weapon and you can pick a gun. But you're like, I don't know which is good. There's no hope. They're not like the gun is good for shooting fast, but the blunderbuss is more powerful. It could be like the gun doesn't work actually that's right but we're not gonna

tell you that you directly in the head sorry you don't even have to pull the trigger it just goes off so i was gonna say he's like when you go when you die and then you respawn and then you start mowing through the townsfolk again each time you do that they drop fewer items so like the first time you go through they're dropping like health potions and bonus stuff and like bullets and things. But as you go through, as you repeat the sequence again, they're dropping fewer things.

So it actually gets harder. But it sort of encourages you to get better without relying on that sort of stuff. And I don't know if that's by design or it's just... I'd imagine it is by design. Maybe, yeah. So did you get good? I by design. I'd imagine it is by design. Maybe, yeah. So did you get good? I'm all right.

I beat the first boss, so that's cool. Which is like, it's called the Cleric Beast, and I'm like, and I heard about it beforehand. Like the townsfolk were like. No, no, just like people are like, you'll have fun when you get to the Cleric Beast. I'm like, oh, it'll be a cleric and he's got a hammer. It's not.

It's a huge monster with one giant arm and one even gianter arm, and it's covered in. Could you say two giant arms? Yeah, but one's gianter. Okay. Yeah. And it's screaming all the time. Everybody's screaming in this town.

Oh, I hate the universe as well. I hate it, but I'm intrigued by it because it's this horrible like neo-Victorian gothic universe and it's awful, and you knock on somebody's door and they're like, I shan't let you in because it's awful out there and you're awful and the whole town's awful. Why do I live here? Get out of here. Yeah.

And then you kill them? No, they just never come out of the house. Okay, fair enough. How do they get bread? I think they've got a stockpile of bread in the house. I mean, you'd want to have a lot, wouldn't you? It's like some sort of hunting purge day and all the good citizens have locked themselves in their houses.

So is it set over the course of a day, a game? Maybe. I don't know. I'm not far enough into it to know. But you level up and power up, don't you, as you go and it gets easier. Isn't that the idea? Yeah. Well, you get a new cloak, certainly, and new trousers.

Wow. A hat, a new hat. Yeah, a new hat. Yeah. It's my favourite part so far. Cool. Actually, it's not because there's limited options. I wish it were more of a Red Dead situation where you can just like

wear a fancy waistcoat. Red Dead is too much. No, it's not. Not for me. I mean clothes-wise. I mean just in general. Oh, okay. Literally everything in the game.

It probably is, yeah. It's like actually you didn't shoot that animal with the proper gun so the pelt sucks. Oh, yeah. And you're going to jail. I'm like, oh, this is fun, isn't it? This is a fun game you've made for me. Yeah, this coat is too hot, so you're slow now.

Don't like it. Yeah, good. Anyway, Bloodborne's pretty fun, but I only play games in short bursts, so it'll be a billion years before I finish it. Cool, okay. And you'll get worse every time you go back because you forget. Oh, my God, I'm absolutely. Well, that sounds like a game I'll never start. Yeah.

For that very reason. I can't commit the time to it. I'm just doing... What are you playing right now? I'm doing a level a day of Super Mario Galaxy with my son. Oh. Is he any good? Is he any good? It's great. No, he's terrible. Is he any good? No, he does the... There's some touching stuff on the screen you can do. Okay, yeah. Like you can swipe to get star bits and he does

a little bit of the platforming. Okay. But it's mostly me. We'll have a pro gamer out of him sooner rather than later. That's the plan. Have you got him his own little gaming chair? No. Yes.

That one that turns into a scorpion? See that one? Does it turn into or is it always a scorpion? It's always a scorpion, I guess, yeah. Does it turn into a different, like a bigger, more menacing scorpion maybe when you sit in it? Yeah, it probably does. You're right.

Yeah. Gaming chairs are awful. We've talked about it. Next segment of the show? scorpion maybe when you're sitting there. Yeah, it probably does. You're right. Yeah. Gaming chairs are off. We've talked about it. Next segment of the show. Yeah, letters. Let's do it. Let's have the letters. The classic one was letters, oh letters.

We love you. Some letters, they're only a day away. We're going to be here right now. We're going to do letters. Do you think it would be funny? Go on. If we call this episode, just I'd label it episode one. Do you think I would be funny if we call this episode, I'd label it episode one?

Do you think I should do it? And then we'll get messages until people get to this point in the show. See, you think it would be funny. I do. Because it's quite late at night and at this point you think a lot of things are funny. That's why I schedule these recordings for late at night so you think everything I say is funny. Correct. But

the instant you get your first tweet of somebody being like oh, is there something wrong here? James, you've made a mistake here. You'll be like, I hate this and you'll be like ah. You know what? I'm going to do it. Wow. Do you think I should? Yes. I think you should. Great.

I will. I'm going to do it. Terrific stuff. But I ain't going to hate it. Yeah. So what have you got? Oh, if you want to reach the show, hashtag weeklyplanetpod. Great. I will. I'm going to do it. Terrific stuff. But I am going to hate it. Yeah. So what have you got? Oh, if you want to reach the show, hashtag weeklyplanetpod. Please. Or weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com. That's right. This is from Nathan Cox.

It says, hi, guys. Writing from the other side of the world. The UK. Just wanted to write in and say thanks. I'm currently moving out of my parents' house and into my own flat. And you guys have been there throughout the whole thing. Not true. From driving to doing the viewing, continuous drives back and forth to get my stuff.

And of course, being there as I tediously built 300 pounds worth of Ikea cabinets. Keep up the good work, Nathan. The worst cabinets. Yeah. Sorry. I mean, I handed you all the Allen keys I could, but there's only so much you can do when you're recording. It's very true, Mason.

Occasionally, I would just, if you listen to the podcast, occasionally I just go, Allen key. That was me helping. You've got an Allen key, thing, don't you? Like a little toolkit. God, I've got so many Alan Keys. Also, you never need an Alan Key because whenever you get something with an Alan Key.

Contains an Alan Key. But you want to get the ones that's more like a screwdriver, I find. I want that. Because the Alan Keys are awful. It's forever. It's an awful thing. Anyway, congratulations on that. That's very exciting.

Oh, thank you. Not you. What? Anyway, this is from Dan Parker. Hello, hate it. Anyway, congratulations on that. That's very exciting. Oh, thank you. Not you. What? Anyway, this is from Dan Parker. Hello, Dan Parker. Intriguing subject line. Listening to the podcast. By the way, that really works.

You're lucky that got through. Intriguing subject line. Yeah, that's right. Just so you know, Dan Parker. Hey, you don't know what it is yet. Well, I know, but I'm saying that's normally an email that, you know, we wouldn't open. I know it doesn't say intriguing subject line.

It is an intriguing subject line. I apologise, Dan Parker. There we go. He says, listening to the podcast as I get testicle surgery. Okay. Pretty intriguing, right? Yes. An intriguing opening gambit as well.

Hey, mates, just popped the podcast on so I can say that I'm listening to the podcast as I get very unexpected surgery on my testicle. I won't discuss you with the details, but I really appreciate your thoughts as I go under. We know it's a twisted nut. I'll send a follow-up when I'm all good. Yeah. If it's one, it's probably.

Yeah. It's a torsion issue. Yeah. It happens all the time. It's really common. But I like the idea of just popped the podcast on and talking about his testicles. I think that's. Very good stuff.

Good stuff, right? I've got a tweet here from a very machos nachos. Yes. What's your guy's most controversial comic book slash movie unpopular opinion. Oh. The only one I could think of off the top of my head was I like some of the Star Wars sequel trilogy and that is not a popular opinion, I think. Yeah.

Did we get, was that comic book and movie opinion? Comic book and movie. I don't think The Walking Dead's very good. The comic. Oh, yeah. I disagree. I didn't think The Walking Dead's very good. The comic. I disagree. I didn't think it was compelling for me. It's fascinating to me that it became this multimedia juggernaut that it is, considering the first four issues were quite generic.

But I haven't read more of it. And Invincible is better? Yeah. Fair enough. Yeah, those are pretty solid opinions, I think. Yeah, yeah. Well, I've got another one here, unless you want to do another one, Mason. No, you go on, but I've got a whole bunch more.

Paul LeBeur says, hey, Nick and James, you guys and others say that Blade 1998 was the first comic book movie. I don't think I've ever said that. But I've always wondered why don't Richard Donner's Superman films or the 90s Batman films count? Well, 1989, but let's not get into specifics. The reason I think people say that or we lean towards it is because Blade led into Spider-Man, X-Men,

which led into the MCU and whatever. It's an early modern. Yeah, even though it's not very modern by today's standards. That's right, yeah. But that is why people say that. This is from Gus. Hey, James and May, so I think the Mr Freeze movie should be called

freeze as in victor freeze uh that way everyone spelled f-r-i-e-s that way everyone who sees the poster will go fries is this about fries as in fries of the food thoughts i don't think people are going into a movie called fries i am no you're not yeah you're gonna say supersize me do you see that at the cinema no exactly but because that was about health or some garbage, right? Yeah. What if they're like fries and you get the ticket and you get some fries? Yeah, I mean, that's a whole other thing. And they're frozen and they're like.

No. Yes, Mason, it's part of the promo. Delicious hot fries. No, it's part of the promo. Wow. They're frozen blue fries. Wow. What do you think?

The worst thing I think I ever ate was when I went to see Suicide Squad at the premiere. I mean Melbourne premiere. So, you know, maybe Steve Brax's son was there. It's a local reference, don't worry about it. But they gave us candied coloured popcorn and I ate it and it gave me a massive fucking headache.

Maybe that's why I came out and went that movie was fine. Actually, I still hold that opinion. That's where I came out and went, that movie was fine. Actually, I still hold that opinion. That's where I'm at. That candy had some serious drugs in it. It may very well have, yeah. What else, Mason? This is from Matthew King. It says, Judge Dreadcar,

extra detail. Oh, I'm interested in this, Matthew. Because we talked about the Judge Dreadcar last week. We did, too, Judge Dreadcar. There's a house with Judge Dreadcars parked outside it. And we said, why? Yeah. And so, hey guys, I'm listening to the podcast where you talked about the Judge Dredd car being in Fallowfield, Manchester. I thought about running in last week, but I didn't get around to it, so Declan got there first. Anyway, I used to drive past the house with the Dredd car in my commute to work and had a mate who lived opposite the house for a while. About four or five years ago, I did a bit of Googling to work out how the car got there.

So the guy whose house it is has a massive collection of dread memorabilia. Dread-ra-belia. Dread-ra-belia. Basically, not only does he have the dread car, but inside the house has mannequins dressed in original clothes from the movie, including a replica of the Stallone golden shoulder magnificence, along with tons of other dread stuff. It doesn't appear he lives in the house,

or at least I hope not because it was incredibly run down and looks like it could genuinely collapse at any moment. Also, the car itself is a fully functioning car, although definitely not road legal, and one of the 32 Land Rovers converted for the 1995 film. Also, I beg that no one go near his house. It's practically abandoned apart from occasional film crews who shoot there filming God knows what, and he's incredibly ominous.

Secret dread sequelsels, probably. Probably. I have another Dread. Hang on, I've got another Dread. That's pretty. That's fascinating. Thank you, Nathan. I've got two more Dread emails.

Is that Nathan? Yes. Okay. Here we go. Three emails. Nice. This is from Andy, the Dread Vehicles in Manchester. Everyone knows about this.

Yeah, yeah. I was listening to the podcast last week, and we were talking about the Dread Vehicles. I occasionally cosplay as a judge from the 2012 Dread film, and I know the guy who owns all the vehicles Declan mentioned in the email last week. Cool. The person in question owns a number of Dread vehicles, costume and props, and yes, is crazy.

Good to know. I mean, we know, but good to know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He also owns one of the bikes from the 2012 film. Sweet. So there's me sitting on it, he says. There's a photo. My God, this is legit.

He mostly just takes them to cons, especially around the Manchester area. And here's a little tidbit for us. Oh, and you were recently wondering what was going on with the Mega City One show. Rebellion has built a studio which will be used to film the show, and they've built a volume similar to what they – A video game company. Rebellion owns 2000AD. Oh, that's right.

That's the big media company. They have a volume similar to what they used to film The Mandalorian, and apparently on YouTube there's a short film where they've tested the equipment. Oh, cool. They will also be filming the Duncan Jones film version of Rogue Trooper there. Oh.

So they have a bit of a hot, hot tidbits for you right there. That's really cool. Yeah. Well, that's all. I mean, that's all on all those stories. Check out together.

You know what I mean? They all make sense together. And here's one more email. Uh, ready. This is from Leah Higgs. It says, can you explain judge dread?

My dad's in it. Uh, boys, you mentioned judge dread a lot in the last episode. Why? What is it? Who is judge dread? All I know about it is they named a lot in the last episode. Why? What is it? Who is Judge Dredd? All I know about it is they named a building in it after my dad.

So in the 2000 page trees? The John Higgs block. Really? They did it because he's an author and they liked his books, I guess. As you can imagine, this is weird to be the only thing I know about this universe. Character, help. I'm going to go buy some ice cream. Best, Leah.

Thank you for your email, Leah. If you could let your dad know that I enjoy his book, Wattling Street, which I have read. It's a good book. 2017's Wattling Street. There's a very old road in England called Wattling Street and it goes through lots of historic places. What kind of bloody... What is he doing?

What do you mean? What kind of books does he write? He writes novels, but he also writes historical. Here's all these historic places in England. And I know he was also born in 1971. Oh, Mr. Facts over there. There we go. Thank you. Leah, Judge Dredd is a very angry man with a gun and a motorcycle,

but it's okay. He's on our side sort of because. Yeah, sometimes. Yeah, sometimes. He's on the side of the law as the future. Your dad has a building because he probably did something great. Yep. because. Yeah, sometimes. Yeah, sometimes. He's on the side of the law as the future and. Your dad has a building because he probably did something great. Yep.

Like writing. Or Judge Dredd shot him. Or Judge Dredd shot him. We don't know. We don't know. Right? Yeah. Yeah. And there's crime and he's got to fight that crime.

He's a man fighting crime. It's hard to describe a Judge Dredd, isn't it? You should watch the movie with your dad. Watch the movie Dredd. Tell us not to listen. He's a hard-nosed cop with a heart of gold, but not really. No, he's a hard-nosed cop and he's a prick. That's the one.

It's probably a genetic thing. Yep. I've got one more, Mason. I'm ready. Scott says, I keep pestering you guys about this, but please watch Doom Patrol. I really want to know what your thoughts are. You keep referencing HBO shows and I keep having you mention it,

but it hasn't happened. Haven't we mentioned Doom Patrol? You have a lot. I have not seen it. So I think that's what's happened here. You love it, don't you? I do. It's a good show. I haven't seen season two, though. Because it's not on anything here yet, maybe. I don't think so. I'll bring the DVD over next, or whatever I've got. What am I going to put it in? The bin?

I've got a PlayStation. And I have a DVD player also. My computer doesn't have a DVD drive, though. I only found that cool. My computer doesn't have a DVD drive though. Wow. I only found that out recently when I went to like rip a disc or what, and I went, oh, shit. I've had this for three years and I've never checked. Yeah. Because I've never needed to.

There it is. Why is this fucking laptop so thick then, Mason? As thick as my fucking head. Not that thick. You know, things get funnier when it's later. Mason, let's go home. Let's go. Thank you, everybody, so much for listening to the show.

I'm firing up the chat. We can do a callback to that because it was in the show. Oh, yeah, cool, cool, cool. Episode one. Folks, thank you so much for listening to the show. Thank you very much for subscribing and telling a friend and leaving a nice review. James, you got a nice review there.

I got a couple of nice reviews, Mason. Very nice. This really helps out the show. You can do them short, long, whatever you want. This one is from Cool, Cool, Cool, Cool, Cool. This review, it says, this review is five stars. It's going to help out the show. You can do them short, long, whatever you want. This one is from Cool, Cool, Cool, Cool, Cool. This review, it says this review is five stars. It's going to help out a lot. It's true.

It helps the show a lot. This is from JK Grace. It says best. If this podcast was ranked based on bears, it would be the black bears of bears. Diverse and never-ending, the Week of Planets is the kind of podcast that delivers it all. Like the black bear is a diverse omnivore.

I love seeing what they're going to say and just sitting back and listening anyway and have a good time. I knew that the bear was an omnivore, but I've never heard a phrase like that. Of course it's an omnivore. It's eating plants, it's eating fish. It's doing it all. It's eating men. It's eating men.

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Wow, that's really... Yeah, yeah. It's like 30 minutes of work. Well, it's very, very rewarding emotionally and financially, so that's great. I think so, yeah. I don't even like doing it, but, you know, 500K, I'll do it. Is it because there's like... For us, me and Claire, so it's like 200K in total. Oh, yeah, that's pretty good. Yeah, yeah, I'd even like doing it. But, you know, $500K, I'll do it. Is it because there's like –

For us, me and Claire. So it's like $200K in total. Oh, yeah, that's pretty good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you sell guns on that, right? I sell guns on that, yeah. So like warlords and stuff, right? Yeah, yeah.

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And we do movie commentaries and all kinds of stuff. We're going to do a spooky one, aren't we? We are going to do a spooky one. A Halloween. And we're going to do a Halloween episode, which might be next week or the week after, whenever Halloween and all kinds of stuff. We're going to do a spooky one, aren't we? We are going to do a spooky one. A Halloween. And we're going to do a Halloween episode, which might be next week or the week after, whenever Halloween is. Very good stuff.

It'll have to be next week, actually. Okay. Because the week after that it'll be... After Halloween? After Halloween. And I'm not having that, quite frankly. There we go. Facebook wants to send you notifications.

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but we both had masks on and we were holding like shopping carts and you can't really talk. How did they know it was you? My face? How did you know it was them? Because I have too many accessories on, obviously. He's got a weird quiff and glasses, so it's obviously myself. You want to wear a hat?

No, that's true. But you can't shake hands and you can't do anything. What did you discuss? We just awkwardly walked around. Yeah, we did the dance. Go. We all did the thriller dance. What specifically did this person mention?

They said, it's my show. And I said, yeah. And he said, oh, I love the show. And I said, thanks, man. And that's it? Yeah. I had milk to buy. I just thought you could have given the fan like a more compelling experience.

I mean, we hung out, obviously. We hung out for hours on end. Good, good, good, yeah. We've got Thank You to the Brute and the Bass, and it's going to rack on probably musical themes. That's the whole show. Next week, Halloween, did you say? Yeah, why not?

My goodness, that sounds very spooky. I don't know what we're doing. We'll just maybe pick some spooky movies we like and we'll talk about it. Yeah, nice, nice. Whatever. Maybe we could just talk about spooky experiences in our life. I've only had one. I can tell it next week. You can tell ghost stories. I have one. Oh, a ghost story. It's not a real one, but I've got one. Nice. I we could just talk about spooky experiences in our life. I've only had one. James, we can tell ghost stories.

I have one. It's not a real one, but I've got one. Nice. I think I've told it before. I've got 100 real ghost stories that really happened to me. So, folks, get excited for that. Can you narrow that? 101 ghost stories, 100 of which are real and one of which is fake in James'.

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