The Weekly Planet - 108 Best Horror Movie Icons

Episode Date: November 2, 2015

To celebrate the fact it was Halloween recently apparently we bumble our way through the best horror movie icons!Plus news of a Batman: Under The Red Hood movie, Suicide Squad, Indiana Jones 5 again, ...Alien 5 being delayed, Power Rangers, Iron Fist and Guardians Of The Galaxy 2! Thanks for listening. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:41 Red Hot Comic Book Movie News Shooting up your butt hole Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Weekly Planet Official Podcast Did I say that weird? Did I say official? It's hard to say isn't it? Keep it rolling! Keep it going! We're the official podcast.
Starting point is 00:01:06 We're the first one in the world to be official. Official podcast on comicbookmovie.com. Official. Official, sorry. Where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday. With me is always my co-host, Nick Mason. It's-a me.
Starting point is 00:01:21 Yeah, it is. Yeah, it's me. He's not lying. I'm here. For once. Aww. How's things? Pretty good. Went to PAX this week. Oh, it is. Yeah, it's me. He's not lying. I'm here. For once. Aww. How's things? Pretty good.
Starting point is 00:01:26 Went to PAX this week. Oh, did you? PAX Australia. How was it? Yeah, good fun. Went to some panels. Did you meet anybody? Nah, there's nobody famous there.
Starting point is 00:01:35 What did you do? I walked around. Yeah? I got a fairy floss. That's pretty good. Or a candy floss, as they say in America. Did you eat it and then be like, my teeth feel weird? Did you not see the photo?
Starting point is 00:01:45 I put a photo up on Twitter. What's Twitter? Oh, never mind. Is that where you put all your photos? Yeah, it's where I put them. Why not print your photos and put them in a little book? That's pretty good, actually. It's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:01:54 It's me and Vault Boy. And Buddy the Fallout Guy. Yeah. Pretty good. Anyway, I went to that. Saw some panels. Yeah. I'd recommend it.
Starting point is 00:02:00 All right, good. What, should I go now? No, it's too late now. It's over. Oh. Should I go next year? Yeah, go next year. Yeah. All right. And if not, you I go now? No, it's too late now. It's over. Should I go next year? Yeah, go next year. All right.
Starting point is 00:02:07 And if not, you're after, I guess. Yeah. All right. I mean, I caused a bit of a mess, so they probably won't have it next year. Oh, okay. I made some trouble. Good, good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:15 Anything exciting happen in your personal life this week? Nah. Great. Moving on. Are you familiar with Civil War, the movie? Captain America Civil War? Yes. It's pretty good, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:02:26 Well, I don't know yet. Well, it sounds pretty good, doesn't it? My thumb is firmly in the middle bit. Well, that's the thing. We haven't seen a trailer yet, have we? We haven't seen anything. But it is a thing. Well, there's two schools of thought on this.
Starting point is 00:02:36 Actually, we have seen some promo images. That's true, actually. Some promo images. We've seen those. It's secret. Secret. Weekly Planet exclusive. That we're not showing anybody.
Starting point is 00:02:46 We're not showing anyone because we don't want to get sued. They'll do it. Disney have a lot of money. So they say. But have you ever seen it? I've never seen their money. I've never seen their Scrooge McDuck style bank vault. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:03:00 Anyway, but okay, there's two schools of thought when the Civil War trailer's landing. One website, which I can't remember which, is saying it's going to land with Spectre this week in the US. Yep. Though it's already out in the UK. And another group of websites is saying it'll land around Star Wars 7, which is December 18th-ish, give or take. So I guess we'll find out, won't we? We sure will. One of those is wrong.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Well, they're both wrong. Well, maybe it's with neither. Yeah. Maybe like this time we go with no previews. Well, that's the thing is when they say it lands with a movie, what they mean is it's released on like the Monday or the Tuesday online that week. So you probably don't have to go to the movie. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:03:40 And then, you know, you'll eventually see it. Though I find in Australia, we get the old trailers in the cinemas. We do, yeah. Yeah, like we get like, I saw the original. And everybody loudly goes, seen it. We've seen it.
Starting point is 00:03:53 We've seen it. That's just you, isn't it? Yeah. Hey, projectionists, put the new one on. I'm talking, I tapped the little glass bit. You heard me. They don't mind either. No.
Starting point is 00:04:05 They're happy that you're giving feedback. They're happy that someone's interacting with them. That's right. That's great. Yeah, absolutely. Speaking of trailers and teasers, they released the teaser for the teaser of Preacher. Oh, yeah. I didn't watch that because I was like, no, I'll just wait till the-
Starting point is 00:04:18 Well, it's six seconds long, so. Great. How was it? It's six seconds long. Is it one of the best? It's six seconds long. Dominic Cooper, right? It's six seconds long. Is it one of the best? It's six seconds long. Dominic Cooper, right? It's six seconds long.
Starting point is 00:04:28 It's hard to say. It's hard to say whether it is Dominic Cooper. Yeah, it's six seconds long and I watched it on my phone. Yeah, yeah. Looked pretty interesting. We had some very brief flashes of stuff. Here's the thing, though. He's not wearing white jeans.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Wears white jeans in the cartoon. That's his signature look. Doesn't wear it in the... I'm not saying it could be bad. I mean, maybe they look weird on camera. Didn't they talk about... They never look weird. Didn't we talk about how they've made some significant changes?
Starting point is 00:04:56 To the pilot, yes. Like straight up? They have, yeah. Yeah. So, white jeans, definitely. Yeah, that's one of them. Yeah, yeah. Because his congregation isn't dead or something.
Starting point is 00:05:07 They're not dead. And it seems a lot of the pilot or maybe even the first season is about him protecting them Walking Dead style. Yeah, yeah. So, who's to say? Don't we already have that show in Fear the Walking Dead? Yes, we do. And the other one? The Walking Dead.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Actually, you know what? The Walking Dead is pretty good at the moment. I'm not going. I'm not watching it. You know what? You have to watch it this year because we probably should do an episode oh just this just this season okay fine if you want all right you know what do what you want that's fine okay good great i will people don't donate money to us for you to do a thing or not do a thing we don't know why anyone donates money to us we're just happy that they do
Starting point is 00:05:44 patreon.com slash Mr. Sunday movies. Get in quick. Maybe they like the fact that I'm like a bloody brick wall of not being interested in watching things. That's what they like. And they're talking about me being obstinate about, about not watching stuff. I get the feeling that that's true because there's gotta be a big,
Starting point is 00:06:01 there's gotta be a market of people who are like, not, not trying that, not watching that, not interested. Because there's got to be a big, there's got to be a market of people who are like, no, not trying that. Not interested. Not watching that. Not interested. Good stuff. Anyway, I appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:06:10 But apparently the full teaser is coming out tomorrow. Well, so this will be up by the time. Yeah. So go back in time and watch it. The full 12 second teaser. It's going to be great.
Starting point is 00:06:18 They're going to treat us. Yeah, so good. Great. It's just him in a jean store like running his hand across all the colours of jeans And he's like white It's getting lighter and lighter
Starting point is 00:06:29 And he's like nah The music gets more dramatic And he's like just regular jeans And people are like oh my god it's a nod to the original series He nearly bought the white jeans Oh my god That's amazing Speaking of amazing, I guess.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Yes. Depending on your opinion of that. There's some new Suicide Squad images that were released online this week. Did you see any of them? No, I didn't see them. Should I look them up now? Yeah, may as well. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:53 I probably should have texted you. But then again, what am I, your mum who shows you pictures of the Suicide Squad movie? That's your mum's job. It kind of is, isn't it? God, come on, mum. I saw you this week as well. Jesus. I learned this week that my mum and dad have listened to this show.
Starting point is 00:07:08 Get out of here. I don't think mine have. What did they say? They were like, well, they said exactly what everybody I know who said who's listened to this, which is, I didn't understand what you're talking about, but you seem to be having a really good time. That seems nice.
Starting point is 00:07:23 Yeah, that's nice, isn't it? Yeah. Anyway, Mum and Dad, if you're listening, please stop nice. Yeah, that's nice, isn't it? Yeah. Anyway, mum and dad, if you're listening, please stop listening. Oh, here we go. Squad goals. There we go.
Starting point is 00:07:31 That's funny. Latest character portrait from Suicide Squad. Is that what I'm looking at? That's the one. That's what you're looking at. All right, here we go. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Polygon.com. So we got some new images of the Joker. Oh, yes. See any of those? I'm looking at Rick Flagg. Yep. He's certainly a military man.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Certainly is. He's got more of a little goatee than I expected. Hmm. Does that bother you? No, it's fine. There's some bloody... Here you go.
Starting point is 00:07:53 There's some Harley Quinn and some Will Smith. Oh, yeah, very good. Yep, very nice. I just see that character as Will Smith as well. I'm interested to see what he does with it.
Starting point is 00:08:01 I think the one that people are most interested in is this. Captain Boomerang. Oh, the image with the Joker shirtless. Crocodile skin. Purple crocodile skin, open jacket, and what looks like a track pants. Yeah, but they say Arkham down the side. Oh, that's very good.
Starting point is 00:08:21 He's got a cane. He's got the word Joker across his stomach. He sure does. Or joke. Might just be joke as we've established last week. And he's also got like a smile tattooed over his belly button. He's tum-tum. Yeah, he's tum-tum.
Starting point is 00:08:37 Yeah, okay. So that's exciting. Yeah. Do you have any thoughts on any of that? He's looking weirder and weirder. I'm feeling now that there is more credence to the fact that maybe he's looking he's looking weirder and weirder i'm i'm feeling now that there is more credence to the fact that maybe he's not the original joker because his character is so and i know i know there's a whole video of me going no that's not it it certainly couldn't be
Starting point is 00:08:54 that but again i i think if you take into account the fact that he might exist at the same time as the original joker yeah and there's like an overlap of like a couple of years, maybe. Okay, sure. I feel that maybe he could be. And he's kind of like, he's been built in the image of the original Joker. Well, I think there's, if a rumor this week is to be believed,
Starting point is 00:09:16 which we'll get to in a minute, I don't, I think that he probably, I genuinely just think he is the real Joker. Okay, cool. But anyway, we'll get to that in a minute. Because David Ayer, who's directed this movie, he is interviewed and whatever he he was asked to speak about it in the interview which is strange sure yeah that's that a director would be asked to talk about his film the quote is i'm sure he was amazed it was just a couple of minutes of silence he's like what what do you want
Starting point is 00:09:38 me to who do you want what uh but basically he said uh you know all movies, like he's talking about comic book movies, are about defeating the evil. I like to think that he made it like the Jack off motion while he was doing all these movies. All these movies, they make me do. All these movies are about defeating the evil alien robot from fucking Planet X before it destroys the world. All right, language, David.
Starting point is 00:10:03 I know, right? With this ticking clock and who the fuck cares cares but you do this story about struggle and isolation and people who have been shit on that suddenly get thrown in uh thrown this lifeline that's not so bad uh i think of this as the comic book movie 2.0 huh bold words this ain't your granddaddy's comic book movie i think that somebody has specifically said, hey, if you swear in this interview, you'll sound real edgy. Yeah. So swear a whole bunch.
Starting point is 00:10:29 Like the movie we're making. Say some cuss words. Yeah, absolutely. You know, it's good to back your work, obviously. But those are strong words. I mean, obviously he's got a lot of... F-words. F-words, certainly.
Starting point is 00:10:40 He's got a lot of faith in the project, obviously. But if that was me, I'd be like, why don't we just wait and see what people think of it that's why we're not big time Hollywood directors that's probably true but you know what I think maybe it's an Australian thing you don't talk yourself up in Australia or you get slapped down tall poppy syndrome
Starting point is 00:10:58 I mean it does exist elsewhere obviously but I feel like if you meet somebody who's like you know pretty good everybody's like that guy's a dickhead like straight up so you can't you can't talk about yourself
Starting point is 00:11:09 for a second in a positive way you have to be self-deprecating for anybody to like you and that's the way of the world yep
Starting point is 00:11:17 mateship mateship also mateship but look I'm super excited for Suicide Squad me too even though the Joker
Starting point is 00:11:24 looks weird I'm still interested to see what happens, like what perspective it kind of takes and the group dynamic. Who gets suicided first? Who does that? Who's the sacrificial lamb? Who's going to die in it?
Starting point is 00:11:37 It's Slipknot. It's going to be Slipknot. Yeah, exactly. Or Pyro, whatever his name is. The fire guy. El Diablo. Yeah, yeah. One of those two.
Starting point is 00:11:44 I reckon it's going to be Slipknot. Well, yeah, we haven't seen a lot of him, have we? But here's the thing, because I would think that it would be Slipknot because visibly he's the least interesting. Yes. Visually. But maybe it is going to be El Diablo because he seems a bit more... You're like, oh, he's a bit more of a character. They won't kill him.
Starting point is 00:12:00 And then, bam, exploded head. You know who showed up this week on The Flash? King Shark. Huh. And then bam, exploded head. You know who showed up this week on The Flash? King Shark. Huh. And it looked pretty good. Like 20 seconds maybe of it. Yeah. It turned up at the end.
Starting point is 00:12:14 Spoiler alert, I guess. Uh-huh. And it blew my mind. I was like, wow, that looks pretty, I mean,
Starting point is 00:12:19 it's TV obviously. Yeah, sure. But man, it's good stuff. All right then. So, and he's in the Suicide Squad
Starting point is 00:12:25 he's in that Suicide Squad animated movie isn't he he's the one who dies straight up no it's KG Beast
Starting point is 00:12:33 that dies straight up oh okay I think yeah well we'll never know will we we'll never know
Starting point is 00:12:37 there's nowhere to tell yeah don't email I mean or do we don't mind yeah it's fine yeah weeklyplanetpod
Starting point is 00:12:44 at gmail.com please but yeah there was rumour this week from Joe Blow of an Under the Red Hood movie I mean, or do. We don't mind. Yeah, it's fine. Yeah. Weeklyplanetpod.jml.com. Please. But yeah, there was a rumor this week from Joe Blow of an Under the Red Hood movie. An animated movie? No. There's already an animated movie. And it's great. Have you seen it?
Starting point is 00:12:55 Yeah, I've seen it. It's bloody great. That the first Batman solo movie, again, this is a rumor, will be Under the Red Hood. And it's not actually, it's called Under the Hood, I think, the actual arc. Yeah. But the animated version is Under the Red Hood, I's not actually it's called Under the Hood I think the actual arc but the animated version is Under the Red Hood I believe
Starting point is 00:13:07 whatever it is but people just call it whatever they want to call it because that's okay call any movie anything you want call Suicide Squad Super Happy Fun Time Land
Starting point is 00:13:15 I really like the idea of that if that's true now I'm making a video on it at the moment it might be out by now I don't know because I actually I made a Star Wars video
Starting point is 00:13:24 for this Sunday and I finished it and then last minute I don't know. Because I actually made a Star Wars video for this Sunday and I finished it. Then last minute I was like, you know what, I want to talk about this. So I've kind of pushed that aside. Can I see the Star Wars video? You probably can't, no. You won't care.
Starting point is 00:13:34 Oh yeah, definitely. But I can show you. That's what I want to really build up. You know what? And then be like, I didn't care about that. You know what? If it's not up, I'll put it on the Patreon. Okay, great. So people can go and see it if they want? If it's not up, I'll put it on the Patreon. Okay, great.
Starting point is 00:13:45 So people can go and see it if they want. But it will be up. Even if you're not a Patreon, you'll see it. Yeah. Don't worry. I really like the idea that, and again, they're producing one movie every five years or whatever it is, so we'll never get to the end of this. But I do like the idea that we've been thrown into a universe that does already exist.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Yeah, I know, right? idea that we've been thrown into a universe that does already exist yeah i know right that there has already been a robin and whatever and there's a dead robin now and maybe i mean if they're doing the classic model there will there's already a nightwing well that's the thing that's what they said nightwing is going to be mentioned in batman v superman yeah and then we see him in under the red hood right or whatever you want to call it. And also, obviously, we'll get, spoiler alert, Jason Todd. So it's going to be a retelling of, not the killing joke, Death in the Family and Under the Red Hood kind of meshed together, which sounds amazing.
Starting point is 00:14:36 That does, doesn't it? Yeah. You know what I'm... Because ultimately we had like more than a decade between Death in the Family and the return of Jason Todd. So it's amazing that that... 20 years, really. It's amazing that that return of Jason Todd. So it's amazing that that... 20 years, really. It's amazing that that return of Jason Todd is so good as well.
Starting point is 00:14:49 Because often when they bring back these characters, Bucky being the exception, one of the exceptions, it doesn't really work. There's probably tons of exceptions now that we think about it. I'm sure there are. But it wasn't a disappointment to see him again, to see him come back. They're going to have to cut out the bit where Superboy Prime punches him back into reality
Starting point is 00:15:06 with his magic punches. They'll probably just use the Lazarus Pit like they did in the animated one. Though that is in the comic as well. It's like in addition to reality punches. That's a quick getting themselves out of the painted corner. Yeah, absolutely. They're like, okay, well, in a couple of years, we're going to have to explain how Superboy punched him back into reality so let's add
Starting point is 00:15:26 the Lazarus pit and then we'll quickly brush the other thing aside and then we'll never mention it again that's exactly it but I'm sick of like and I like the Nolan Batmans and I like some of the Burton stuff you know I don't really like it but I
Starting point is 00:15:41 respect that that's a vision and like those directors are like well I just wanted to do my version of Batman you know what I don't really like it but i respect that yeah that's a vision and like those the directors are like well i just wanted to do my version of batman you know what i don't want to see your fucking version of batman i want to see batman i want to see comic book batman and that's what this sounds like this is great right you know what i like a lot of different interpretations i agree i agree but you can now take popular story arcs that aren't year one and the Dark Knight
Starting point is 00:16:08 strikes what you're saying is you're sick of origin stories I'm sick of it and I'm sick of seeing everything being influenced by the Dark Knight Returns both of those are great
Starting point is 00:16:15 but there are other comics so why not do them but yeah sure do them in your own style I will but something a little bit different
Starting point is 00:16:24 you know what speaking of that i'm not a collector of things but you know uh as i was at pax you know as i mentioned earlier i won't shut up about it you know what something i wish i'd collected from from year one yeah batman year one no not batman year one just from when they started batman the batman black and white statuettes have you seen those yeah they're great're great. They're incredible. Like there's, like it's, you know, the Batman black and white series, you know, or a whole bunch of different creators got a shot at drawing Batman.
Starting point is 00:16:53 And so there's now a statuette of like, you know, Batman in the style of Jim Lee and Batman in the style of Tim Sale. And there's a Batman in the style of Mike Mignola, like Hellboy style. Is it Mike Mignola in a Batman costume? Yes, it is. Is that what you're talking about? It's real sweet. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:05 But they look incredible and they're so dynamic and they're like a hundred bucks a piece. Yeah. And I wish I'd started collecting them from Go. Because there's quite a lot of them now. Because now there's like $3,000 worth of them and I'm not going to. Yeah, exactly. I kind of want them all, just line them up around the house kind of thing. Maybe someone will send you one.
Starting point is 00:17:22 Or all of them. Yes. Yeah. You know what's great about those they look like comic book versions like like they're literally just brought to life yeah absolutely yeah or to statue correct great under the red hood though yep great i hope they do it me too and if any i hope they do the long ha. I hope they do Court of Owls. Just pick really- I hope they don't do Court of Owls. Really?
Starting point is 00:17:46 It's a bit much. Really? Okay. But yeah, like I think, yeah, Under the Red Hood definitely works because everybody in the world is aware of Batman and Robin. Yes. And we know, you know, even if you don't know that Robin's origin is that he's an orphan because he was in the circus and his parents were killed and blah, blah, blah. Now you do, because Mason just told you.
Starting point is 00:18:10 I just told you. Everybody listen. Mum and Dad, if you didn't know, that's the origin of Robin. We're having fun. Yep. Anyway, everybody knows that Robin is, you know, Batman's partner and blah, blah, blah. And now it's time to further that story along. You don't have to go, and by the way, here the origin of robin and let's have a exactly a fun
Starting point is 00:18:29 movie with them as a team and then we'll do something else you can just go remember all the times you saw the batman and robin tv series and all the comics and the cartoons and whatever and batman forever yep then here's here's a continuation of that. It's time for that. And that's the benefit of this Batman being the age that he is, like a 40-year-old Batman, which the Ben Affleck one is, because you don't have to set all that stuff up. It's already been set up. And we've seen from the trailers that Jason Todd or A. Robin has already been murdered.
Starting point is 00:19:00 So it looks like they're actually building towards this, or they have been. And Ben Affleck rumoured again to be directing it, which great. Sure. Absolutely. Yeah. As long as it's not your vision Affleck. Just make Batman.
Starting point is 00:19:14 Shut up, Affleck. It'll be fine. Yeah, he's good. So there's been talk this week as well of Indiana Jones returning. Producer Frank Marshall. Do you think that's a from like the the back to the future fever that we got like a couple of weeks ago you think it's like bring back more properties from the 80s yeah i don't do it i don't doubt it but he um frank marshall said that they
Starting point is 00:19:36 haven't sat down to discuss it yet but it's not going to be like a james bond thing where they're going to call someone else Indiana Jones, which obviously makes it sound like Harrison Ford is returning. You know what could work though, if he's returning? Yes. The plan that they're doing for the new Die Hard, which is a set in the, you get old Bruce Willis and then it flashes back to a young Bruce Willis. Right.
Starting point is 00:19:59 That sounds terrible. But for this, that could work possibly. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry, my friend Lepre is messaging me. God damn it, Lepre. Couldn't you have a normal name? It's such a nice message as well.
Starting point is 00:20:13 He's a son of a bitch. Now he makes me look like a dickhead. He's a bad bloke. What were we talking about? I don't remember. Indiana Jones. Oh, and Back to the Future. Yes.
Starting point is 00:20:23 We didn't really talk about it. Did you enjoy Back to the Future Fever last week? No. I made a video about it. Oh, and Back to the Future. Yes. Did you enjoy the... We didn't really talk about it. Did you enjoy Back to the Future Fever last week? No. I made a video about it. Oh, you hated it. That's right. I saw that video. No, I didn't hate it, but I hate, like, where's my hoverboard?
Starting point is 00:20:34 Oh, okay, yeah, that's true. I deserve a hoverboard. You don't deserve shit. Like, shut up. You're a bad person, like your friends. Yes, that's right. I quite liked, in all the people going crazy over it and i know it was just an ad for the back to the future blu-rays but it was christopher lloyd he gets out
Starting point is 00:20:51 of the bloody gets out of the law and he says 2015 is not the same as we remember it because that's because your future's not ready that was really nice and i'm like i can be whatever you want it to be and i'm like oh i'm not crying you're crying and then I went out and bought the blu-rays I didn't no did um I saw the Kimmel thing
Starting point is 00:21:09 my nostalgia only goes so far absolutely it extends the line is blu-ray yeah is that right yeah yeah I saw
Starting point is 00:21:15 I watched the Kimmel thing went for like five minutes too long right what do you think of Kimmel or any of those guys do you mean Kimmel or Fallon
Starting point is 00:21:22 no it was Kimmel that one was on Kimmel. Both of them. What do you think of both of them? They're fine. That's right, right? They have a bit of fun. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:30 I've never watched a full episode about any of their stuff. No. The occasional clip. Fallon's got a good attitude. He certainly does. He's a fun, nice guy. He gets a lot of people to do
Starting point is 00:21:39 little fun stuff. That's right. Yeah. I'll watch the occasional clip on YouTube, like you said. What are we talking about? Indiana Jones. Yeah. But no, Back to the Future's right. Yeah. I'll watch the occasional clip on YouTube, like you said. What are we talking about? Indiana Jones. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:47 But no, Back to the Future is great. You know what? When we talked about Back to the Future last... God damn it, Lepre. When we talked about Back to the Future last week, I hadn't actually watched them. And this week I watched one and two. Yeah. And you were dead on.
Starting point is 00:21:59 One is amazing. Two is... It's okay. Yeah. And you know what? I didn't realize it, but he's aged quite a lot in between. Like, it's okay. Yeah. Uh-huh. And you know what? I didn't realize it, but he's aged quite a lot in between. Like, it's quite noticeable. Yeah, because it's like four years.
Starting point is 00:22:11 And then. Looks like he's been doing some drinking. And then. He's got that drinking face. Yeah. And then not at all for the next 30 years. Yeah, I know, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:19 Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Right? I want to go. Look, I did enjoy. I liked it. Still, I stand by it. Start at two is good.
Starting point is 00:22:25 Yep. The end is good when he goes back it really picks up when he goes to the 50s yep yeah anyway we talked about that last week or whatever week we talked about
Starting point is 00:22:32 yeah sure anyway Indiana Jones do you want to see Harrison Ford we've talked about this before whatever yes or no yes great
Starting point is 00:22:38 if he can be dressed as a hot dog that would be great oh yeah we saw that yeah we did yeah he looked pretty happy didn't he no as happy as he gets
Starting point is 00:22:48 yeah as stoned as he gets yeah alright so I love him look let's talk about Power Rangers briefly
Starting point is 00:22:55 because I feel like we should okay I skip Power Rangers a lot because it was kind of just after my time same here so I got a lot of hate in my heart for it
Starting point is 00:23:02 not hate disinterest that's the word but look there was a rumour this week that the Power Rangers that show up weren't going to be Same here. So I've got a lot of hate in my heart for it. Not hate, disinterest. That's the word. But look, there was a rumour this week that the Power Rangers that show up weren't going to be the original Rangers. Like your bloody Billy and your Steve and the rest of them. Sure. I don't know the rest of them.
Starting point is 00:23:15 Gareth. Gareth, yeah. Chip. Chip, yeah. The blue one. Trina? Yep. Trinity?
Starting point is 00:23:22 No. I'm thinking of Matrix. Yeah. Pamela. Kimmy. I'm thinking of Matrix. Yeah. Pamela. Kimmy. Kimmy. Anyway, we successfully named all the canonical Power Rangers just then. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:23:33 Zardoz. Zardoz. And by that I mean Sean Connery in that weird Speedo thing that he wears in that movie Zardoz. More like a nappy than a Speedo. Yeah. But there was a rumor that they were going to be given new names and they weren't going to jason jason was one of them there you go but it turns out that they're just going to be called what they were originally the other rumor was so is this a reboot or a continuation well i guess it's a reboot now because you could make it a continuation
Starting point is 00:23:58 if there are new characters i don't think it matters though is it still going to look like garbage i hope so well okay how about this yes it's got a budget of though. Is it still going to look like garbage? I hope so. Well, okay, how about this? Yes. It's got a budget of $35 million. So it's going to look like garbage. But, but, but, but, but. They've cast relatively unknowns. So a lot of that money. So it'll be garbage from people who can't act.
Starting point is 00:24:16 It'll be a whole bunch of people who are just staring into the camera, just having garbage piled upon them. Yeah, fair enough. I mean, but if you look at like, say, you know, like an Avengers movie or Suicide Squad, and if they're $200 million, at least maybe just under half goes to... Robert Downey Jr.
Starting point is 00:24:36 Yeah, goes to Robert Downey Jr. and cast. But they won't have that. They could throw them 500 grand each. Yeah, not even. Not even, yeah. I mean, Chris Evans got 300 grand, right? 300 for the first Captain America, yeah. And he got it in coin.
Starting point is 00:24:48 He sure did. He had to show up every morning, like at the ground floor of the Disney building, of the Marvel Studios building, and they flung a quarter down at him and hit him in the head. He had to scramble for it. He had to scramble for it every morning for weeks.
Starting point is 00:25:05 He's still doing it. Yeah, he's still doing it. Collecting his money. Yeah, he'll never stop. Ping! Ah! I need that! There was also a rumor that it's called Saban's Power Rangers.
Starting point is 00:25:18 Saban? The guy who... Yeah, Haim Saban. Yeah, so what he did... Yes. He went and just bought this weird Japanese ninja force show. I don't know what it was called. It was probably called Weird Ninja Force Show.
Starting point is 00:25:30 It was from Japan. Yeah, exactly. And then he just got some Americans and just filmed that bit and then just spliced it together. And it's very noticeable. So I guess he wants his name on it. So now it's going to be called Saban's Power Rangers. But, I guess.
Starting point is 00:25:44 That family, that household name. Haim Saban. I mean, that's a rumor. You wouldn't do that, would you? This isn't called James and Mason's podcast about comic books. Oh, maybe it should be, though. Maybe it should be. Oh, but Mason and James.
Starting point is 00:25:58 Yeah, you're probably right. But, why put Saban at the front? That's so dumb. It is so dumb. Saban's Mighty Morphin Power Ranger? I think it's just Saban at the front? That's so dumb It is so dumb Saban's Mighty Morphin Power Ranger? I think it's just Saban's Power Ranger Do you think he's like Look, I'm really rich but I'm not famous
Starting point is 00:26:12 So this is my chance This is my Everest This is my 8 mile moment To finally become all I can be This is my one opportunity Let me tell you something He's not going to get his 8 mile moment With a $35 million unknown actor's Power Rangers movie.
Starting point is 00:26:28 No, I don't. See, with that kind of budget, you're sort of damned if you do and you're damned if you don't. Yeah. In the sense that if they use just the people in suits. Yeah. You know, the robot men in suits kind of thing and the men in the rubber costumes or whatever. Like, but fresh new footage. Yeah, it's going to look awful. Yes.
Starting point is 00:26:47 But if you do $30 million worth of CGI, that's also going to look awful. Look, I think a good example of that working well is District 9. Yep. A lot of unknowns. I think all unknowns pretty much. Stupid accents. Stupid accents. And all the money went into the special effects pretty much
Starting point is 00:27:04 and locations and probably catering. Yeah. And... Stupid accents. Stupid accents. And all the money went into the special effects, pretty much. And locations. Yeah, okay. And probably catering. Yeah. So, I think it can definitely be done. We'll see, won't we? But I'm saying, with the Power Ranger track record, can it be done?
Starting point is 00:27:17 Will it be done? Oh, no. No, it won't. Gem and the Holograms came out last week. The trailer? No, the movie. Huh. It definitely didn't crack the top five.
Starting point is 00:27:29 I don't think it cracked the top ten. I wouldn't have heard it. Yeah. So apparently it's astronomically bad. Oh, it's not that it was poorly marketed. It's an actual bad film. Yeah, it's both. Oh, great.
Starting point is 00:27:40 I guess if it is such a bad film, you just sink it, I guess. That's it. Exactly. So Matthew McConaughey, you just sink it, I guess. That's it, exactly. So Matthew McConaughey, according to Variety, I believe, which means it's real, because they generally say real things. They're as real as you get. He reportedly turned down a villainous role in Guardians of the Galaxy 2. Oh, that's a shame.
Starting point is 00:28:00 I would have liked to see that. That is a shame. But you know what that says to me? What's that? A, he's probably looking at other stuff, because he said he's wanted to do a comic book movie. B, probably a Sahara sequel. I want to see a Sahara sequel. Me too!
Starting point is 00:28:14 Dirk Pitt. Yes! Dirk Pitt Adventures. I mean, they could change the name of him. Samuel Pitt. That'll do it. Thank you. But it also says to me that they're looking to cast a strong... This is going to have a strong villain.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Because Marvel movies, one of the criticisms is, aside from Chris Evans scrambling for coins, Sure, yeah. is that their villains aren't great. He has to leave at his lunch hour to get those quarters. Ping. Ping. But, yeah, the villains aren't great.
Starting point is 00:28:42 Sometimes you see him, he's chasing a rat. Rat's got his quarter. Come on, rat! Yeah, but they don't have strong villains. So if they're going for someone like a McConaughey, that's not a throwaway role. That means that that villain's going to be someone standout, which is exciting.
Starting point is 00:28:59 Yes. I don't know who. Who's a good bloody... Well, it can't be Thanos because he's taken. Yeah. Another kind of... A Nihilus, maybe? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:07 Okay. I mean, he's all CGI, essentially. Oh, yeah. And he's got a weird big gaping mouth. Just an empty void mouth. So maybe it can't... It needs to be somebody with a visible face. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:18 Maybe Eternity or something. Okay. One of them cosmic ones. Maybe Peter Quill's... Maybe it's Ego the Living Planet. Imagine McC's maybe it's Ego the Living Planet imagine McConaughey's Ego the Living Planet he would nail that
Starting point is 00:29:29 yeah what about if there's rumours of Peter Quill's father in it maybe he'd be Peter Quill's father because I could see that that McConaughey could be
Starting point is 00:29:36 Chris Pratt's father okay sure if you aged up McConaughey a little bit he looks pretty haggard these days from son not from like
Starting point is 00:29:43 he looks older, right? Yeah. He looks close to... The passage of time has affected him normally. He looks the age he is. Yeah. But like a good version of that.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Yeah. Look, I don't mean to throw sand in his face, Sahara style. I like him a lot. He'd love that, if anything. Also, Pom Klimtief,
Starting point is 00:30:03 who is an actress who's been cast in this movie. It's been confirmed. Say the name again? No. Okay. She is playing Mantis. Huh.
Starting point is 00:30:12 And if you see her, you'd be like, yep, good. That works. So yeah, Mantis is like an alien, green alien woman with like little antennae. For those who don't know, but now you do know, but you don't need that information. You can forget till the movie comes out. Pom Climteef. but now you do know but you don't need that information you can forget until the movie comes out Pom Klem Teeth Klem
Starting point is 00:30:28 Klem and Teeth K-L-E-M E-N T-I-E-F-F oh okay that makes more sense than what I said
Starting point is 00:30:37 no good continue great so Alien 5 is on hold oh because we don't know what's happening with Prometheus 2. It's actually called Alien Paradise Lost Basin.
Starting point is 00:30:50 And that's what we have to call it from now on. Let's just call it Prometheus 2. Yeah, let's do that. So that comes out 2017. So it has to wait until at least that. And then I'd imagine if this does well, they'll be like, well, we have to wait till Prometheus 3. Alien 5 is what I want to see though. And then I'd imagine if this does well, they'll be like, well, we have to wait till Prometheus 3. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:07 Alien 5 is what I want to see, though. Nobody wants another Prometheus movie, let alone two. And then Neil Blomkamp's going to get sick of waiting around. Well, he has. He announced that he's moving on to other stuff in between. I think if Chappie had have done well. Yeah. Or even if, what was the one
Starting point is 00:31:25 he did before that? Matt Damon. Matt Damon's Space Station. Space Suit Man robot jumps in space. Elysium. Yes.
Starting point is 00:31:35 I think if that did better or Chappie even was mildly well received we didn't mind it from memory. Stupid accents I remember it. The Ant Board were in it for some accents, I remember it. The Ant Board
Starting point is 00:31:46 were in it for some reason. I remember that. But yeah, Ridley Scott's just done The Martian. So like he's in everybody's good books again and Blomkamp, I guess he's not as much.
Starting point is 00:31:56 So that's not a priority. But again, I don't give a shit about Prometheus. I want to see Hicks and Ripley. I kind of do though. I kind of want to see how the story plays out.
Starting point is 00:32:05 I do, I do. But I'm bracing myself for incredible disappointment again. Look, it just has to be written well. That's what The Martian proved. It doesn't even have to be written well. It just has to be written so by the end we see an actual alien from the movie Aliens. We're like, finally, moving on. Yeah, great.
Starting point is 00:32:23 Yep. Last bit of news. Okay. yeah great yep last bit of news okay uh iron fist could be a netflix movie as opposed to a series why is that i wonder would you remember we talked about a few weeks ago that uh the rumor wasn't netflix and marvel were having trouble casting a casting and kind of getting a series out of iron fist so if this is true it sounds like to me that they've gone, maybe we can't get a series, but we've got enough, you know, here to make a solid movie.
Starting point is 00:32:50 Right, okay. Which is great, I think. I think that's better to kind of be like acknowledge your limitations and do this as opposed to just push through with something which won't be necessarily a standard which you'd want. Yeah, I'd rather not see them really spread out. Yeah. This, you know, because if, look,
Starting point is 00:33:09 the thing about Iron Fist is... He's Iron Fist. He sure is. Yeah. That's what he's got. Just the one. Just the one. But if there's not a lot of Iron Fist,
Starting point is 00:33:20 if there's not a lot of storyline to go through and they insist on doing the series, it'll just be 15 minutes of training montage every episode, right? Yes, him getting better at being iron fist. Yeah, exactly. Having his iron fists, plural. Just iron fisting all about. Yeah, and it's...
Starting point is 00:33:38 To the detriment of all. If we don't have... If it's going to be that, I would rather just see the movie. Also, that's exciting to me where they're like look we've got minor characters we're not going to do a series we're just going to make a movie a netflix movie we'll chuck bloody 10 million into it or whatever that that sounds that sounds great i love it do all all of that i will get on it get out of here i will i'll write some letters last thing i guess we should talk about um people have asked us to talk about specter uh-. We can't talk about Spectre.
Starting point is 00:34:05 It's not out here yet. It's not out here yet. It's not even out here this week. It's out here the week after. Now, look, the twist is probably he's Blofeld. If you could not email us spoilers. Please don't tweet us. Spoilers, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:18 Spoilers, if you could. Yeah, if you could. I mean, if you really want to, I guess we can't stop you. Can't stop you. But we'd appreciate it. We can block you, though. Oh, yeah, I guess we could. Yeah. In real't stop you. But we'd appreciate it. We can block you, though. Oh, yeah, I guess we could. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:26 In real life. Yeah. Just hand to the face. No thank you. I'd like to go unsurprised. Me too. And then talk about it. So, yeah, we will talk about Spectre.
Starting point is 00:34:34 I mean, there's really only one surprise. There's one or two surprises. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whether or not Christoph Waltz is Blofeld and whether or not this is just a remake of On Her Majesty's Secret Service. Yes, exactly. So don't tell us the answer to those things and i've i've had a few emails and i appreciate it in the subject header people are like specter spoilers so i'm like yeah i'll get back to those and i will so if you have any important information that you'd rather as we
Starting point is 00:34:56 didn't read yes just put specter spoilers in the email and we won't raid them. Correct. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret. The other, a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+. Well, you know what this week was, though? This weekend just gone. Halloween!
Starting point is 00:35:34 The spookiest time of the year. Spooky time! Is it the spookiest time of the year? I mean, maybe next to tax time. I was going to say next to tax time! Simpatico. Also, it was just tax time for us was going to say next to tax time. Simpatico. Yep. Also, it was just tax time for us.
Starting point is 00:35:47 It literally was. Yes. Bloody. I don't like it. We bloody took a bath, mate. I mean, not literally. That would be weird. We did after.
Starting point is 00:35:54 Yeah. So, yeah. Did you get up for much for Halloween? Look, here's what I did. Yep. I was invited to two Halloween parties last night. Yep. And what happens is my brain goes,. I was invited to two Halloween parties last night. Yep. And what happens is my brain go, whenever I'm invited to more than two things, my brain
Starting point is 00:36:10 goes, you know what? I could just not go to either of them. The perfect crime. I mean, obviously it's not the perfect crime. No. Because even if I was like, hey, I couldn't, I couldn't go to yours because I was going to the other one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:23 Somebody's still getting offended. Absolutely. But then I'm doing it to both people you're offending two people pretty great what did you do i didn't do anything great i'm not against halloween i i quite like the idea of it but what i what i hate is on facebook people are like i had some kids come to my door and i was like no thank, thank you. That's an American tradition. We don't do that here in Australia. Fuck off. Who are you hurting? Americans?
Starting point is 00:36:49 Yeah. You're hurting kids, you dickhead. Like, don't be mean to kids. Just go to the supermarket and buy like a box of, a little box, like a bag of those little fun-sized chocolate bars for like three bucks. Yep. And just give them out until you run out.
Starting point is 00:37:05 Or put them in a bowl and leave it at the door. Take one each on a system. Leave me alone. And don't touch the bowl. Or just, you know what? You can just buy a whole bunch of bags. Yeah. Wait until it's empty.
Starting point is 00:37:17 Sneak out when there's nobody around. Fill it up again. You don't have to talk to anyone. Exactly. Yeah. So that's what I think about Halloween. Yeah. If people want to do it, great.
Starting point is 00:37:25 Also, how many of our traditions are Australian? Fucking none of them. Yep. Like, why is it this one people get so upset about? I don't know. Like, we have like three traditions and all of them involve like... Taking the day off. Taking the day off or singing a song about a swagman who jumps into a river and kills
Starting point is 00:37:43 himself after stealing a sheep. That's a famous Australian folk song. Some people want it to be on National Anthem for some reason. I don't know why. Because it's about stealing. Yeah, I guess so. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:54 So, yeah. No, but I like seeing people bloody getting out there and putting costumes on and stuff. Yeah. Isn't your rule with costumes as well? You have to be able to, within 10 seconds, remove something and then you look like you're dressed normally yeah all my costumes uh or most of my halloween costumes made out of cardboard that's my rule yeah but generally speaking my rule with with halloween costumes is one move it's regular clothes again i've i'm trying to think of some ones that you've done because every time i see one of yours i go
Starting point is 00:38:24 well done uh i was beaker from the Muppet Show once that was a good one I was made entirely of cardboard that was pretty good one move take the head off regular clothes white shirt looking good yeah I was a giant box of Special K one year big box one move regular clothes no clothes that time oh boy yeah all great choices thank you uh but this year no access to cardboard oh no yeah that's right yeah oh well maybe we can pull some strings for next year i hope so yeah but look we thought because it is the scariest time of the year except except for tax time uh and even though it's passed we thought we we talk about horror movie icons.
Starting point is 00:39:05 Are you cool with that? Yeah, no, that's fine. Now, I'm not talking like... I was just thinking about Tax Time again. Oh, yeah, of course. I'm not talking like your classics, like your Frankenstein's monster and the mummy and the wolf man. We're going to talk about modern day. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:17 And those things we will... The modern famous monsters. We will talk about those at some point. Maybe next Halloween's. But I'm talking, you know, yeah, exactly like the ones you're're talking about and I just want to say from the top I am NOT a horror movie guy uh-huh that's all I have to say right but I will still talk about this at length now now what do you say you're not a horror movie guy you're not you if a movie's out yeah it's horror themed yeah the movies yeah you're
Starting point is 00:39:43 just going out to the movies will you avoid avoid it or you'll see it anyway? If I'm with other people, I'll see it. But you're not going to seek it out? No, never. Literally never. I think the last horror movie I saw at the cinema was maybe The Others. And I didn't really like it. Everyone was a ghost at the end.
Starting point is 00:39:59 The horror... Spoiler alert. Hang on, which one is that? Is that the one with the cold kid? That was like 10 years ago at least. Yeah, I know. What about... I saw Cabin in the Woods.
Starting point is 00:40:08 There you go. But I was away that year. I was somewhere overseas. I don't know. Okay, so it doesn't count. Well, I didn't see the movie. What about Drag Me to Hell? No, I was away that year as well.
Starting point is 00:40:20 I think you're a little bit more afraid of horror movies than you care to admit. The fact that you leave the country rather than see them. You know what? You're probably not wrong. Yeah. Because whenever I do see a horror movie, I'm like, that's pretty scary. Like so. In terms of like, because you can break down horror into a lot of different genres.
Starting point is 00:40:37 Yeah. And horror, I feel horror movie fans are like, not all, I'm painting with a very broad brush. Sure. So we're going to get less. Paint away. Yeah, but I feel that, and again, I'm sure, you know,
Starting point is 00:40:50 there are tons of, with every genre, there are people who are like, yeah, you know, let's enjoy what it is and let's live and let live kind of thing. Yeah. But there are some people like,
Starting point is 00:40:57 this is what horror is. Yep. You cannot, like Aliens, not a horror movie. Oh, okay. So they're very specific. Because it's sci-fi,
Starting point is 00:41:03 so it doesn't count. It's got to be, you know. So what's Jason X? Is that not a horror movie? Maybe it isn movie. Oh, okay. So they're very specific. Because it's sci-fi, so it doesn't count. It's got to be, you know... So what's Jason X? Is that not a horror movie? Maybe it isn't. Oh, my God. Or maybe that's Grandfather Dean because it's, you know, because it's in the Jason series.
Starting point is 00:41:13 Oh, okay. In Friday the 13th series. But a lot, you know, people will be like, oh, that's, you know, it's sci-fi or, you know, Event Horizon. It's sci-fi, so it doesn't count kind of thing. Alien is a slasher movie on a spaceship. That's what I'm talking about. What about Event Horizon?
Starting point is 00:41:27 That's a romantic comedy. That's a scary movie, man. That's a good movie, man. Yeah. Yeah, like, I don't like ghosts either because they annoy me. They could get you. Well, they could get me for one, but they annoy me. Ghosts annoy you.
Starting point is 00:41:42 Yeah, because they're around the world. I'd like to see a movie about that, about a guy who can see dead people and they just annoy him oh wasn't that that was a movie yeah okay no because they're like all right well i'd like to see a movie about that but it's not it doesn't have ricky gervais in it they're like i'd like to see most ricky gervais movies without ricky gervais in them if i'm honest with you you know because they're like i'm around you yeah great what about the fright about The Frighteners? I love The Frighteners. But that's more a horror comedy. Oh, look at this horror movie elitist.
Starting point is 00:42:09 Did I ever tell you that? Oh, no. The story about how I saw a ghost, but not really? Look, you probably did, but I'm sure I tuned it out. Let's hear it again. Okay, I don't believe in- All our listeners weren't around us while you were telling the story, I assume. So maybe tell it again and they can hear it. Let me just state, I don't believe in ghosts.
Starting point is 00:42:29 But you're afraid of ghosts. I ain't afraid of no ghost, mate. Okay, sure. So when I was at uni, I was living on campus. That's university for short. And my first night there, and it was before my housemates had moved in, two lovely young ladies who are now dead. No, they're fine.
Starting point is 00:42:51 You know them. Yeah, I've i've met them yeah they're great but i fell asleep and i thought that i woke up and there was a woman standing at the foot of my bed uh-huh and it was like literally as i saw the room so obviously i was dreaming right and if my reaction was, what? And I just, and I kicked. Like I kicked. You kicked a woman. Like, exactly. Wow. This does not paint you in a good light. This dream sequence slash could have been real. But in the kick, I woke myself up. Okay.
Starting point is 00:43:15 And the room was exactly as it was. So I was in between that dream and wake kind of state where some things were real and some things weren't. Anyway, I told people that story. I'm like, like I was genuinely scared for a second so i thought there was a woman sitting at the standing there to my bed and then that spread around that i'd seen this ghost and people kept asking me and i'm like no i didn't say that i don't believe in ghosts so i spent like a good few months explaining to people months oh wait days do you feel how do you feel this affected
Starting point is 00:43:44 you on campus do you feel it affected you on campus do you feel that affected you positively or negatively i think no she went is this this is the uni that was sort of in a semi-rural area yeah yeah that part was yeah i've been to a few do you feel they were more accepting of your ghost story of when you saw the ghost because it was more rural and they're like oh he's seen the ghost of wherever whatever this town is that we live in. I can't remember. Yeah, I guess. I just remember being asked about it and being annoyed. That's what I remember.
Starting point is 00:44:13 I never saw it again. I didn't live in fear. I was just like, that was a thing that I now remember because so many people reminded me of it. Yes. Yeah. Do you have a ghost story that's not real? One time I made some pottery with Patrick Swayze. Patrick Swayze's ghost?
Starting point is 00:44:32 Yeah. He's dead. Yes. If you recall. I recall. He's literally dead now. Well, that sounds kind of delightful. Yeah, it was nice.
Starting point is 00:44:39 It was real nice. Yeah. Great. Yeah. So this week we're talking... I asked him about that cop show he was in. What did he say? He had a good time. I bet he did. Yeah. Look, yeah. Great. Yeah. So this week we're talking... I asked him about that cop show he was in. What did he say? He had a good time.
Starting point is 00:44:46 I bet he did. Yeah. Yeah. Look, okay, so let's just go... The Beast. It was called The Beast. Oh, okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:52 So let's just go through horror movie icons and just say things that we like or don't like about them. Okay, great. That sounds really good. Hey, I have a list. I have a list. What is your list? I just made a list of horror movie icons.
Starting point is 00:45:03 Oh, my list is horror movie icons in order of lethality. I'm coughing. I'm coughing. You sure are. Sorry, so is number one the most lethal? Yes. Let's start there then. Oh, you don't want to go up?
Starting point is 00:45:18 Yeah, that's what I mean. No, we'll go non-lethal. Yeah, we'll start low. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry, that's what I meant to say. Let's start low. Okay. This one says...
Starting point is 00:45:24 Okay, number 24. I'm going to skip a few of these because, again, I'm start low. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry, that's what I meant to say. Let's start low. Okay. This one says... Okay. Okay, number 24. I'm going to skip a few of these because, again, I'm a horror movie elitist. Yes. Actually, that's not true. You don't care. You just want to talk about the ones you have something to say about. Yes, I do.
Starting point is 00:45:34 All right. 24. Pennywise the Clown from It. Nine kills. Okay. Oh, it goes by how many people they actually killed. Yes. Well, that makes sense.
Starting point is 00:45:42 Lethal. Yeah. Sure. Was the lethal weapon in movies count? No! Are guns count as monsters? Movie monsters? Guns?
Starting point is 00:45:50 Well, I mean, they're the scariest monsters of all in a way. Certainly. But no. Other than Dracula's. This whole thing's going to fall to pieces, I feel. You got anything to say about Pennywise? I never saw it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:02 So I don't care. Yeah. What do you think about clowns as terrifying things? I don't like them. So you're terrified of clowns? No, I just don't. What if I was a clown right now?
Starting point is 00:46:12 What if I tore my whole face off and I was a clown? So you have regular man makeup and you tear it off and you're like the Joker from the first Batman movie. But scarier. Would you be scared?
Starting point is 00:46:21 Yeah, of course I would. I'd be... Ha! Scared of clowns. What? You wouldn't be scared by that? No, I'd be pretty scared. I mean, I'd also be... clowns what you wouldn't be scared by that no i'd be pretty scared i mean i'd also be it depends what you did if you're like check what i did i'll be like that's actually very impressive that i didn't notice that you could that you've done that that you could do that yeah i'm more a magician than a clown in that case
Starting point is 00:46:36 that was a telly movie that was a two-part miniseries i've only seen it as the whole thing yeah i've never he's a spider in the end isn isn't he? Yes, he is. Yeah, and it was Tim Curry. Yes. He terrified a lot of children. Tim Curry, yeah. Yes, just in his day-to-day life. With his beady eyes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:52 He was also the voice of the Joker originally in Batman the Animated Series. Oh, he was too. Yeah, yeah. But then he scared the animators with his beady eyes. Yes, he did. And the people in the voiceover booth. And they're like, get him. Get him out of here.
Starting point is 00:47:03 Call security, get rid of him. Have you seen, there's like a craze that's kind of gone a bit viral where scary clowns do things around the world? Yes. What do you think? I was on a radio show and I'm sure you probably, and I can't remember the name of it. You're on so many radio shows that you don't even care.
Starting point is 00:47:20 I can't remember what it's called. My friend Murphy did it. He's not listening, but he can send me. I'll find the link and I'll put it up on my Twitter. Yeah. And it was, we talked about weird news stories. And one of them was just a weird clown in England. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:34 Who just shows up and menaces people by doing nothing in particular. He's just standing by the side of the road holding a balloon. Yeah. Just looking terrifying. Yeah. There's been a spate of them. Yes. Yeah. it's become like a thing around the world that people are doing i saw footage of one where a like a clown will go up to somebody's security camera on their porch and like just stand there and stare at it and then leave like stuff like that and that is
Starting point is 00:47:58 terrifying if that was me coulrophobia you know how okay if i saw that I would run out And punch that guy so hard Like Nothing would stop me From doing that Yeah Great Because that's weird It's kind of weird
Starting point is 00:48:12 Don't stand on my porch Yeah Yeah but Apparently Clowns though They don't use them For parties anymore Children demand
Starting point is 00:48:18 Superheroes Superheroes Exactly Yeah Because nobody wants To see a clown Then you need How about the Joker Do you think there are Any little kids who are like I want clown. Then you need... How about the Joker?
Starting point is 00:48:25 Do you think there are any little kids who are like, I want the Joker at my party? I would say the Joker is less scary than most clowns. Because aesthetically, he's quite pleasing. Isn't he, though? He's got that nice suit, usually. It's a top bit of... You know, got the tails going on.
Starting point is 00:48:38 Are you afraid of clowns? No. Yeah. I do like your clown story. You've told it before. Do you want to tell it again? Well, my one regret... Look, I don't Do you want to tell it again? Well my one regret Look I don't have a lot of regrets in life
Starting point is 00:48:47 But one of my major regrets in life Heroin abuse Well that That might have led to this But look one day I was I was driving to an event And it was like Out in Werribee or Whittlesea
Starting point is 00:49:00 One of those places that's quite far away Somewhere crap Somewhere crap Anyway I'm sorry to our four listeners in Whittlesea and Werribee. But anyway, I was driving there and I got to like, there's like a roundabout and like a country pub near the roundabout. As there is in most roundabouts in Werribee.
Starting point is 00:49:19 Yeah, and it was kind of this big roundabout and there's like nothingness in all the directions of this roundabout and there's like nothingness in, in, in all the directions of this roundabout. And I come up to it and this, this van, this sort of dirty white windowless van rolls through in this roundabout. And it's, it's like, it's got the, got the right of way.
Starting point is 00:49:35 So it rolls through. And I see that in the, in the driver's seat is like a man and he's got like, I can see like, like chest up and he's wearing just like a, like a checked flannel shirt and he's got, like I can see like chest up and he's wearing just like a checked flannel shirt and he's just kind of a regular guy and he's kind of like balding or whatever
Starting point is 00:49:50 like in his 50s but he's got full clown makeup on and like it's a big van. It's like quite a long frame van. You saw it a long time coming. Yeah, so it's like and it had a real long turning circle so it was taking forever
Starting point is 00:50:02 to get through this roundabout and I'm just there staring at it. And my one regret in life is I didn't wind my window down and lean bodily out of the car and go, Get off the road, you clown! But I didn't because there was a moment where I feared that he would loop all the way back around again and crash into my car and murder me on the roundabout. That's a legitimate fear that you had. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:25 So I'm only afraid of that guy. And that guy wasn't really a clown. He was more the Snowtown murderer wearing clown makeup. So anyway, we're talking about clowns. Let's never do it again. Who's next? Well, there's a few. The Candyman.
Starting point is 00:50:42 I never watched the Candyman. Me neither. He's the voice of the new Flash villain. Oh. I can't remember his name. But yeah there's a few. The Candyman. I never watched the Candyman. Me neither. He's the voice of the new Flash villain. Oh. Can't remember his name, but yeah. There you go. Let it face, Texas Chainsaw Massacre. He was filled with bees, wasn't he?
Starting point is 00:50:54 Candyman? Oh, he was filled with bees. And you say his name three times and he'll fill you with bees. Or you know he's there or something. I don't know, man. Yeah, you know he's there because of all the bees. Yeah, man. Because of all the artisanal jars in your kitchen that you use for drinking glasses.
Starting point is 00:51:08 They fill up with honey. And you're like, oh, no. Oh, no. I mean, free honey, but oh, no. I'm dead. No, I can't enjoy this honey because I'm dead. Do you think a lot of these creatures who have towels that they're coming, do you think you'd just be like, I live in this universe, baseball bat?
Starting point is 00:51:24 Like, you'd just be like, you see a bee and you're like Baseball bat, like straight up Yeah I guess I mean a lot of them are like they've got magic powers and shit I think these days If you encountered a Like if there was a real life monster like the Candyman Yeah
Starting point is 00:51:38 You would If you You would hear about it And then what I would do is just go to Reddit, and there'd be a thread on the horrible monster that's killing people, and somebody would have figured out what its vulnerability is, and then you'd be fine. And it would probably be baseball bats.
Starting point is 00:51:56 Yeah, you'd be like, look, just get yourself a baseball bat, and you'd be like, cool, awesome. And then it wouldn't be a problem anymore. Like, you know that one, It Follows? I haven't seen it. Okay, right. I've heard it's good. I anymore. Like, you know that one, It Follows? I haven't seen it. Okay, right. I've heard it's good. I should point out, I do like a good horror movie, but there's a lot of crap and I'm not sifting through it.
Starting point is 00:52:11 And I get no joy from, like, body horror and things like that and boring horror movies. Torture porn. I just don't give a shit. Anyway, sorry, go on. But I think, like... That's a different thing, though, obviously. Yeah, and the movie It Follows, essentially, it's a movie... The premise is basically that there is a...
Starting point is 00:52:30 Like if you... It's sort of an infection. And if you have sex with somebody with that infection, you are then... You become the target of this creature that follows you at walking pace. It follows. Exactly. And it can appear as anyone.
Starting point is 00:52:45 It follows. Sorry, it doesn't apply. Somebody you know or somebody, you know, just a random person. Somebody you used to know. I should point out Mason knows Gaultier. A little bit. I went to Japan with him once. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:57 There's no story to that. No. Anyway, but yeah, and essentially if it catches you, it'll, like, tear you to pieces. It'll horror you. It'll horror you so bad. Yeah. So what you have to do is you have to find somebody, have sex with them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:11 And then the curse is passed to them. Yeah. And then what happens is if that monster kills them, then it comes after you. Yes. And then if it kills you, it comes after the person. Yeah. Who had, you know, previously. Sure.
Starting point is 00:53:22 But I think if that existed in the real world, there would be a Reddit on that. There would be a Reddit and somebody would have built a calculation to fix that. They'd have been like, okay, we're going to have a meetup and you can have sex with you and you can have sex with you
Starting point is 00:53:35 and you can have sex with you and then you can fly over here and you can do it. And then they'd figure out a system where it never bothered anyone. Yeah, exactly. Like they'd build up the whole scheduling system. It'd just be a whole lot of links. links yeah it'd be a whole lot of links yeah
Starting point is 00:53:47 that's great i should see that movie yeah who's the next one oh you said leatherface look i'm skipping a few but leatherface from the texas chainsaw massacre yeah 30 kills yep all right fine i feel like that's the kind of guy where you'd see him coming because he does a lot of screaming and he has a chainsaw well and he always starts straight away yeah because have you ever seen a chainsaw start straight away? It never happens. I always see my dad sweating in the backyard swearing over a chainsaw.
Starting point is 00:54:10 You go over to his house specifically for that. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. He's like, I'm going to chop down some trees today. And you're like, I'm going to say this. You just sit there in a lawn chair with a lemonade. All right, go ahead, dad. Good on you, mate.
Starting point is 00:54:25 Also, the Texas Chainsaw Massacre just ends with... A massacre? No, it just ends with the last, the final girl getting into a, like, hailing down a truck. Okay. And she gets into the truck
Starting point is 00:54:36 and the truck drives off. There was a sequel called The New Beginning or something and Matthew McConaughey and Renee Zellweger were in it in the 90s. Oh, yeah. But there was,
Starting point is 00:54:44 and Matthew McConaughey is quite open about it, Renee Zellweger not so much. And Matthew McConaughey and Renee Zellweger were in it in the 90s. Oh, yeah. But there was... And Matthew McConaughey is quite open about it. Renee Zellweger, not so much. But Matthew McConaughey knows he's done a bunch of crap, excluding Zahara. And there's also a prequel, or I think it might have been a direct sequel that came out a few years ago, which wasn't very good. It used some of the original footage and some of the original cast. And it kind of built on from that. But I heard it wasn't very good.
Starting point is 00:55:04 But that's kind of the things... Like that and Hills Have hills have eyes. I'm like, I don't know. I don't care about that. Do you not fear rural hillbillies? Yeah, sure. But I mean, you went to university surrounded by rural hillbillies and ghosts. Look, I don't mean to talk myself up. I'm not a physically intimidating person by any stretch, but I'm never really in fear that I'm going to get beat up or overpowered. What if somebody's got a chainsaw? Yeah, but that's different. I could run faster than a guy wielding a in fear that I'm going to get beat up or overpowered. What if somebody's got a chainsaw? Yeah, but that's different. I could run faster than a guy wielding a chainsaw. That I guarantee.
Starting point is 00:55:29 Yeah. I'll get my own chainsaw. I'll get it at my dad's house. Yeah. Yeah. And as long as you've got like a 20 minute head start to actually start that thing. Boy. Are you scared of guys with chainsaws?
Starting point is 00:55:42 I'm scared of idiots with chainsaws. Yeah, that's a legitimate fear. Yeah, like a lunatic with a chainsaw. Like that, you know, you just run for it. You've got to make that special petrol mix that it is because it's like two parts kerosene, not kerosene. I don't know what it is, but, you know, there's like a specific kind of mix.
Starting point is 00:56:00 It's a really good chainsaw performance. Yeah, exactly. But, yeah, I do feel like I go to a hardware store to pick something up. Yeah. You know, my one time a year that I do that. Yeah. And there's somebody just testing out chainsaws and he drops it on my foot. Like, I'm concerned with that.
Starting point is 00:56:14 Fair enough. Yeah. Yeah. What do you have on your list? Who do you got on your list? I'll tell you where they exist in the... Oh, this will probably be number one because he's up on my list. Frederick Kruger.
Starting point is 00:56:24 He's not the top of the list oh really isn't he yeah okay we'll get to that i guess freddy kruger 39 kills it's not that many i guess i know right you think it would be more you know what though freddy kruger never really seen 10 on this list okay yeah never really seen one of his movies all the way through i as a kid when i saw that image of him yes and i remember i saw him come out of a wall or a television or a door or something and i was like coming out of a door isn't that spectacular when you think about it i'll come out of doors but like he morphed out of something or he was in the wall or something and i remember going holy shit that's terror that's legitimately
Starting point is 00:57:01 terrifying now you look at it and it's laughable. Yeah. I think I saw him on the cover of like a Fangoria magazine or something like that. And I'm like, this is, what is this? Because he's... He's horrifying. But now I just see it and I'm like, ah, it's Robert Englund. Exactly. He's having a bit of fun. Look at him with his funny knife fingers.
Starting point is 00:57:19 Good on him. Exactly. And I know, I mean, I know the first one was... We know they're not real. We know they're not real. But like, it became more about puns and funny kills. Yeah. It was more like a cartoon.
Starting point is 00:57:30 Let's not mention he's a pedophile. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Oh. Oh. But what was really clever about that? That also, you know what I find odd? Because I saw one at PAX. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:41 A pedophile. No, probably. I saw a few. But a woman dressed as sexy freddy krueger pedophile okay that's the scary part of that cosplay yeah yeah where's craven obviously who died recently who he's responsible for another his dreams yes he's responsible for another horror movie icon yeah which we will talk about a A more 90s one. What a great idea to be like, you're not safe when you sleep. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:07 Like, that's terrifying. Well done, you bastard. So, but also, if Freddy, if you set him on fire, you could drag him into the real world. Is that right? No, if you're holding him when you wake up. Oh, okay. But isn't he, fire hurts him as well? Oh, no, that's Jason.
Starting point is 00:58:24 No, Jason's water. Jason's water, yes. But I think Freddy's fire as well. It is Oh, okay. But isn't he, fire hurts him as well? Oh no, that's Jason. No, it's Jason's water. Jason's water, yes. But I think Freddy's fire as well. It is fire, yes. Yeah. I think most of these guys, it's fire though. Sure, if you set Leatherface on fire,
Starting point is 00:58:33 I'm sure it'd sting a bit. He'd hate fire. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, go ahead. And that's all I have to say. Okay, cool. But that's the thing though,
Starting point is 00:58:38 that would be on a Reddit. You'd be like, yeah, just grab him and wake up. It would, wouldn't it? Yeah. Also, isn't it, if I'm like, you're in my dream, I'd be like, well, I can, if you can
Starting point is 00:58:47 do anything, then surely I can do anything. Well, see, that was the plot of some of the Nightmare on Elm Street. It was, one of them was the Dream Warriors. Yeah. It's a group of people who sort of, who are aware of the deal there kind of thing. Yeah. And sort of train themselves to, and they have sort of dream personas that have more abilities.
Starting point is 00:59:03 This is Inception. Yeah, it was Inception. I'm thinking of the movie inception you are yeah yeah yeah any thoughts on freddy krueger i guess terrifying when he's when i was a little kid not so much anymore i feel more like the for me the the more disturbing movies these days are the hot like the home invasion kind of movies like uh the strangers yes yeah you've seen that that's pretty scary
Starting point is 00:59:27 too terrifying yeah maybe I wanted to ask you about this because I don't know that much about him pinhead
Starting point is 00:59:32 from the Hellraiser movie yeah what's his deal well 36 kills not enough I know it's number 15 he's
Starting point is 00:59:39 weak as piss mate yeah I know he's weak as piss exactly I've killed more than the people in that
Starting point is 00:59:44 yeah I don't even have any pins in my Yeah, I know. He's weak as piss. Exactly. I've killed more people than that. Yeah. I don't even have any pins in my head. That you know about. He's a Cenobite. Yep. I think he's sort of a... Which is sort of an alien dimensional race kind of guy. The premise of all the Hellraiser movies is there's a box.
Starting point is 01:00:03 It's like a puzzle box. Yep. The name of which escapes me. I'll think of it in a second. Rubik's. It's not a Rubik's Cube. Oh. That is also the devil's work.
Starting point is 01:00:14 Oh, it's called the lament configuration. Oh, okay. Because they're always lamenting. I guess so. Yeah. And what you open it, you crack it and he comes out or he sucks you in or something.
Starting point is 01:00:25 It's a good week for us, isn't it? Boy, it sure is. He was also one of those characters that when I saw like, you know, like a fantasy. As a child, too terrifying to watch the movies. Or like, I'm sure I watched a VHS preview of like a Hellraiser movie. Absolutely. But now, laughable. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:42 He's just a guy walking around with his little leather coat and his buddy. Do you think that would scare kids now? If you showed a kid that? Probably. He's got pins in his head. Yeah. Yeah. But I guess his vulnerability is you just get a little hammer and you tap.
Starting point is 01:00:56 You're right. Tap all the pins into his brain. I mean, they point in. They don't point out. That's true. If anything, it's like walking on a bed of nails. Right? There's so many of them. Oh, yeah. He just. Even if you headbutt. You just headbutt him. That's true. If anything, it's like walking on a bed of nails, right? There's so many of them.
Starting point is 01:01:05 Oh, yeah. He just... Even if he headbutt... He just headbutt him. That's his vulnerability. Fire also. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:11 So what does he... Does he torture you? Does he just straight up murder you? What's his deal? I can't remember. All right. I guess we'll move on from this one. We can edit this out.
Starting point is 01:01:19 Ooh, here we go. Yeah. Pinhead was born Elliot Spencer. Okay. Not a scary name at all. Opened the lament configuration after becoming disenchanted with human life from his service in World War I. Oh, so he's quite old.
Starting point is 01:01:30 Yes. That's fair enough. Serves the deity Leviathan. Yeah. By abducting other people who solve the puzzle box thing. Just don't solve the puzzle box. Exactly. It's like a Rubik's Cube.
Starting point is 01:01:41 Stop being so bloody smart, mate. Just put it down and walk away. No one cares you're good at Rubik's Cubes. Yeah, exactly. Jesus. Wouldn't it be funnier, though, if you saw somebody just on the train or whatever, just speed-solving a Rubik's Cube,
Starting point is 01:01:53 and they're like, ha-ha-ha, and then a portal opened up and they were sucked into a hell dimension? That would be great. That would be pretty good, right? That would be amazing, yeah. That would be amazing, yeah. Look, I think the Hellraiser movies,
Starting point is 01:02:04 they just keep making them. And most of them aren't good. Yeah. By all accounts. We're going to get letters. Yeah. Look, I think the Hellraiser movies, they just keep making them. And most of them aren't good. Yeah. By all accounts. We're going to get letters. Tell you what, if there's a big fan of Hellraiser out there, I know there was a remake in 2011, which sort of brought it back. This sort of brought it back to the original.
Starting point is 01:02:16 The status quo. Yeah, it was sort of like your Nightmare on Elm Street. Yeah. Reboot, where they're like, let's make it scary again and not. Yeah. Just weird pop culture references and et cetera. And all that, yeah. That might be very good.
Starting point is 01:02:28 If somebody out there is a huge fan, let us know. Yeah, yeah. I would like to... Tell us which is the best one. Let Mason know on Twitter. Yeah, do that. I don't care. Yeah, you absolutely don't care.
Starting point is 01:02:37 Yeah. What about Michael Myers? Ugh. Guess how many kills? I reckon a lot. Yeah. 50 odd? 107. Is he number one? No. Oh. lot. 50 odd? 107.
Starting point is 01:02:46 Is he number one? No. Oh, this is a fun game. Isn't it though? I like it when you put in minimal work. Yeah, isn't it? Yeah. No, I watched all these movies
Starting point is 01:02:54 and I counted them individually. That's not true. I think this is from moviepilot.com or something like that. Good work. Now, this is a horror movie. I actually saw H2O at the cinema. Sure. Not knowing the history. It's Halloween H20. It is, sorry. It's not I actually saw H2O at the cinema. Sure.
Starting point is 01:03:05 Not knowing the history. It's Halloween H20. It is, sorry. It's not. It's H2O. That confused a lot of people. Including me to this day, apparently. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:13 It's not Halloween H20. There's no water in that film. No, there certainly isn't. But I didn't know his background or anything. I'm like, is this Jason? I don't know who this guy is. Yes. And I just remember laughing the entire time.
Starting point is 01:03:25 Yep. I had fun. It's like The Exorcist. I laughed the entire time of The Exorcist. Where did you see The Exorcist? I can't remember. It was like a sleepover party in the 90s or something. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:03:37 Yeah. But do you know how Michael Myers was killed, though, in the end? By Jamie Lee Curtis? By Busta Rhymes. Did not see that coming. Even if you'd said which 90s rapper killed Michael Myers, I wouldn't have guessed Busta Rhymes. No.
Starting point is 01:03:58 That would have been like my 20th guess. Yeah, absolutely. I would have said Redman over Busta Rhymes. Sure, makes more sense. Yes, yeah. He does some spin kicks into him, and I think a building collapses on him inuster Rhymes. Sure, makes more sense. He does some spin kicks into him and I think a building collapses on him in a fire or something. Fire, again.
Starting point is 01:04:10 Michael Myers has the habit of not being dead when you think he's dead. Like every movie kind of ends with him dying from what I've seen. You know what a great cinematic monster madness? James Rolfe does a retrospective Halloween kind of 30-day series every yearolfe does a retrospective Halloween kind of 30 day series
Starting point is 01:04:26 every year where he does a new video every day generally wow and he's gone through all the Halloween movies all the Freddy Krueger movies
Starting point is 01:04:33 all the Godzilla movies everything that you can imagine and so that's where most of my knowledge from this comes from which is good on him he's a buddy
Starting point is 01:04:41 he's good at what he does okay so what's Michael Myers' deal? Okay, so he hates his sister, Jamie Lee Curtis. Is he undead? No, he's not. But he takes a lot of damage. Do you think he's on roids?
Starting point is 01:04:54 He might be. He's probably on roids. He's big. And they remade it, didn't they? Yes. I want to say with Rob Zombie? Let's assume it's rob zombie yeah i might be wrong but apparently i've heard some people say it's really good but basically he
Starting point is 01:05:10 murdered somebody when he was little and so he was locked up for years and then when jamie lee curtis curtis is like 16 17 he breaks out and he comes after her right and then it's the movie halloween and halloween 2 is set like the next day where he wakes up in a mor So he's notoriously hard to kill, but he's not like Jason, where he's immortal. Though Jason wasn't initially immortal. No, correct. But then he was a worm? We'll get to him. Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 01:05:35 Maybe at the end. The one that I saw, don't spoil it, unless you haven't spoiled it, because that was so subtle. Maybe. Stop it! Okay. The one that I saw, though, it ends with Jamie Lee Curtis pins him in a truck. Yep.
Starting point is 01:05:50 And then he reaches his hand out to almost be like, forgiveness, please. And she takes his head off with an axe. Very good. But then I find out, I haven't seen it, but the next movie, he swapped clothing and masks with a paramedic. Uh-huh. And she killed a paramedic and he's out there gallivanting about.
Starting point is 01:06:08 So that's pretty sweet. Pretty good. I don't know why he hates Jamie Lee Curtis so much. Also Josh Hartnett's in that one. He's got a weird bowl cut. It's pretty good. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:18 Any other Mike Myers memories? I just saw I married an ax murderer, but that's a different one. I remember enjoying that. Yeah. I don't know whether it's good got another one? alright your mate, your favourite he's not a movie monster so much
Starting point is 01:06:32 but he is a monster but also a hero Dexter from the show Dexter he doesn't count he's on this list guess how many people he's killed probably 40, 67 look he's not very good and I guess he is. Guess how many people he's killed. Probably 40. 67.
Starting point is 01:06:45 Really? Yeah. Look, he's not very good and I like him. Did you like him initially? Yes. I did very much. He's like dumb Batman. But then I gave up on season two.
Starting point is 01:06:54 Yep. To my betterment, I feel. The John Lithgow season's good. Yep. Oh. That was me, by the way. I could also do the John Lithgow. The one word John Lithgow impression.
Starting point is 01:07:06 Yeah, great. Yeah, initially good. And I don't know, it's not super well written. And at the end, he just kind of gets away and he's a lumberjack. That's true. And at the end, he's like, isn't he like, I can't raise my child because I'm a serial killer. Yeah. But I'll leave him in the hands of a lady serial killer.
Starting point is 01:07:24 Exactly. Yeah. That's exactly it. And he was doing a pretty bang-up job of it the other thing about that guy is the concept is great but absolutely yeah a serial killer that only kills serial killers awesome yeah but now some but now they've ruined that so no one else could do it sure thanks a lot thanks a lot, CB series Dexter. God damn it. But the reason they didn't kill him in the end, because they wanted the, apparently the end scene was initially going to be
Starting point is 01:07:51 Michael C. Hall was getting murdered. Michael Shawl. Michael Shawl. Yes. He was getting the electric chair and everybody, all these victims are kind of standing there watching him. And it's kind of like,
Starting point is 01:08:03 so the whole seasons have been his flashback of all the people that he's killed but then they're like oh no we i guess we want to use him at some point again so no oh sure we'll just have him be a six seasons in a movie exactly yeah so that's pretty good i guess next who's on your list though chucky from child's play yeah ridiculous i saw the oneended in a self-parody after like... Yes, immediately. Yeah. 30 minutes in. Yes. He...
Starting point is 01:08:29 I saw the one where he has a baby. With Jennifer Tilly. I did not... Like, all of that was just terrible for every reason. Yeah. Not funny. I like Brad... Demon sperm.
Starting point is 01:08:40 Yeah. Brad Dourif was good. Yeah, okay. He's as good as the voice of Chucky. Yeah, that's true. But no, he's awful. I hate him. What do you like about...
Starting point is 01:08:47 Do you enjoy demon dolls? You like a demon doll from time to time? No. Yeah. Do you? No. No. They're dumb.
Starting point is 01:08:55 Yeah, they are dumb. Yeah. What else is there about him, though? Nothing. Slappy from Goosebumps is kind of... Do you know him? No. The ventriloquist dummy?
Starting point is 01:09:04 Oh, sure, yeah. Yeah. We should do a Goosebumps episode at some point as well. Okay. When Goosebumps is kind of... Do you know him? No. The ventriloquist dummy? Oh, sure, yeah. Yeah. We should do a Goosebumps episode at some point as well. Okay. When Goosebumps comes out? Is that out already? I think it's already been out. Apparently it's not bad.
Starting point is 01:09:11 Readers beware. See, people have said that, but I've never... I never read the Goosebumps books. Oh, so you don't give a shit, then? And the plot seems to revolve around knowing things about the Goosebumps. Okay. The characters know things about Goosebumps books. All you need to know is all the Goosebumps come into the world.
Starting point is 01:09:27 There's so many Goosebumps that become real it's like pixels but better Chucky 38 kills thumbs down you suck and we hate you but a lot of people like him by the way if we hate these we're sorry that if you like them also a lot of these our memories are like
Starting point is 01:09:44 we have like 5 minutes worth of memories so maybe we're like them also a lot of these our memories are like we have like 5 minutes worth of memories so maybe we're missing out on a lot of gold maybe we're not though does Norman Bates count? yeah what's that like 3? 17 in the movies?
Starting point is 01:10:00 or the TV series? I have no other details here there was a couple movies yeah is that a good movie I don't even I don't remember the original Psycho
Starting point is 01:10:11 yeah I mean apparently it is or the remake of Psycho with Vince Vaughn the frame by frame remake I haven't seen it where you can see a lot of Anne Hathaway
Starting point is 01:10:18 in one particular scene it's a thing Kevin Smith brings up a lot and not Anne Hathaway Anne Heche Anne Heche I apologise yeah I apologise what about The Ring It's a thing Kevin Smith brings up a lot. And not Anne Hathaway, Anne Heche. Anne Heche, I apologize. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:25 Yeah, I apologize. What about The Ring? Japanese horror is a whole other thing. I'll tell you what. I watched that movie at home on DVD or whatever after it came out, thinking, oh, yeah, I'll see what this is like. That freaked the shit out of me, like legitimately. Oh, yeah, sure.
Starting point is 01:10:43 And I was an adult. That combined a lot of... You had your creeping horror. Yeah. You had this curse that was following people around. You had very effective... This is the remake. Yes. It had some very effective jump scares.
Starting point is 01:10:59 Yeah. Because when you finally saw what became of people who were killed by the girl, they had these terrifyingly twisted faces. Distorted, yeah. And that bit, spoiler alert, I guess, where she came out of the TV. Yeah. It's not a jump scare. There were four Psycho movies.
Starting point is 01:11:17 That explains how many kills he got away with. I guess that does. Yeah. When she crawls out of the TV, that's horrifying. Yeah. Yeah. Good stuff. Yeah. But again, Reddit thread. Yeah, you're right. It would fix everything. Show someone else. Yeah. when she crawls out of the TV like that's horrifying yeah good stuff yeah
Starting point is 01:11:25 but again reddit thread yeah you're right would fix everything show someone else yeah show someone else we've got a schedule
Starting point is 01:11:31 we've got a whole bunch of a bunch of weirdo volunteers who are horror movie fans who are quite willing to you know what they do they'd have a bloody they'd have a they'd have a psych
Starting point is 01:11:40 they'd have a the ring party yes right so there'd be a whole bunch of separate rooms yep with TVs and VCRs people would bring their VCR, they'd have a, the ring party. Yes. Right? So there'd be a whole bunch of separate rooms. Yep. With TVs and VCRs.
Starting point is 01:11:47 People would bring their VCRs, they'd get, they'd be all enjoying the fun retro aspect of it, right? Yep. And they'd get some, so the first person who's, who's been ring cursed would come in, right? And they'd be like, Hey, there's this guy. And he'd be like a celebrity kind of thing. Right? And he'd hand out copies of the video and everybody would be like, yay.
Starting point is 01:12:03 And all the horror movie fan weirdos would go into separate rooms and watch the videos and then reconvene in six days or whatever. I think it's three days. Is it? Seven days. Seven days, sure. So they'd reconvene in six and a half days. Less days than when it happens.
Starting point is 01:12:18 Less days than when it happens. And then they'd have a little seminar or whatever. They'd probably do a podcast on it. A debrief. On their whatever. And then they'd wait for the girl to come out of the TV, right? Now hit her with a baseball bat! And then they'd get somebody else to watch the video real quick.
Starting point is 01:12:36 Yeah. And then the girl would have to come back out and go back in. And everyone would go, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Idiots! And then they'd do another podcast. They would. And then there'd be a reaction video. There'd be so many reaction videos.
Starting point is 01:12:49 Do you think digital media would have killed that ghost, though? I hope so. Or do you think she'd make the jump to Blu-ray? I think she'd probably turn into malware. Okay. Good stuff. I didn't see the sequel. I heard it wasn't as good.
Starting point is 01:13:02 I didn't see it either. And I also didn't see the original. But I think Japanese horror is a whole other thing that we could probably do. I think a lot of people will be like, well, that's not authentic horror. That's probably true. It's not a slasher. It's not a bloody... That's a good point.
Starting point is 01:13:12 Fine, let's go slasher then. Okay. Ghost Face. Oh, from Scream. The Scream series. From Scream. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:19 I like Scream. I remember liking it a lot. Do you think people would consider it authentic horror? Because it's a... It's like a throwback, I guess. It's a satire. Yeah. Of the whole genre. I think it's a lot. Do you think people consider it authentic horror? Because it's a... It's like a throwback, I guess. It's a satire of the whole genre. I think it's authentic horror. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:29 I think what is interesting about horror now is the idea that people, that creators and fans are sort of embracing the idea that if you're in a horror movie, you've also seen some horror movies. Absolutely, yeah. You understand... Rules of things.
Starting point is 01:13:44 You understand rules and tropes and et cetera. Yeah, yeah. This is Wes Craven's other. Correct, yes. It's got some legitimate scares in it. There's a lot of kind of cheap kind of jump scares in it as well. Yes. But what I remember thinking was pretty funny about that
Starting point is 01:14:00 or interesting about that movie was the killer wasn't completely adept. Like he'd run in and he'd trip over a couch and go tumbling and do you know what I mean? Or he'd get like, he'd get caught on a flight of stairs. And then sometimes he'd just be smoking weed with the Wayans brothers. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:14:15 I know exactly what you mean. Yeah, that's right. Sometimes he'd do a rap. You know? I know what you mean. Yeah. Leslie Nielsen sometimes. Yeah, sometimes Leslie Nielsen.
Starting point is 01:14:25 But no, I think that kind of put an end to all those kind of, you're Freddy Krueger's, you're Jason Voorhees, you're bloody all those. And I think that really kind of stomped on it. Do you know what I mean? And it's never kind of gotten back to that because of Scream. Like that kind of level of self-awareness. There's four movies yes yes and they're all and there's a tv series on net there is which i think is it might be a continuation yes but i might very well be wrong i like that mask though it's pretty good i guess
Starting point is 01:14:58 sure like the voice changer yeah it's all great man and everybody's like everybody's mom was having an affair with someone's dad and that's why they're the killer or something. They all end like that. Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty good. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:12 From memory. I mean, I'm sure it's very 90s in hindsight. Oh yeah, that kills a lot of movies, I feel. And Jay and Silent Bob are in the third one. They make a cameo. Okay, not a, not a, it's actually Jay and Silent Bob. I believe so. I haven't seen that one. Yeah, it's not that good. Okay. Not a... It's actually Giant Silent Bob. I believe so. I haven't seen that one.
Starting point is 01:15:27 Yeah. It's not that good. Okay, great. Yeah. One and two, not bad. Any more? How about Jigsaw from Saw? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:36 Yeah. What are we at time-wise? What are we doing? We're just under an hour 20. Okay. God. A couple more? Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 01:15:43 All right. Jigsaw, I saw the first Saw. I quite liked it. Don't give a shit about that show. That's Australia's own. It is. Lee Whannell and the other guy. To Lee Whannell's credit, he's really gone on to do other stuff.
Starting point is 01:15:55 He just let that series take off by itself and he just collected checks. And he's gone and done other stuff. Give me an example of another thing he's done. He did The Conjuring. Did he do one of the... Give me an example of another thing he's done. He did The Conjuring. Did he do one of the... Give me an example of something I've seen. I'm not looking it up. Of course not.
Starting point is 01:16:12 That tapping you here is... Sorry, sorry. James Wan, I meant to say he's gone and done more stuff. He did Insidious. He did Furious 7. I thought he did. Yeah. That's pretty good. He directed Furious 7. Yeah, I know, right 7. I thought he did. Yeah. That's pretty good.
Starting point is 01:16:25 He directed Furious 7. Yeah, I know, right? Surprise. There you go. Yeah, so. Well done, Lee Whannell. You've done it again. No, James Wan.
Starting point is 01:16:31 Oh. Lee Whannell is the not as good guy, I guess. Great. Oh, he's doing Aquaman. Oh, okay, great. We've talked about this. I don't listen to this show. But I remember quite liking Saw, but I remember thinking, I don't need to see 50 of these,
Starting point is 01:16:46 which there have been. So, no. What do you think of that movie? All the Saw movies? Yeah. Again, Reddit thread would solve all this. Yes. Just act like you're living your life to the fullest.
Starting point is 01:16:59 How many Saw... It was nice to see Carrie Elwes. Oh, okay. Right. Yeah, he's good. It was nice to see Carrie Elwes. Oh, okay, right. Yeah, he's good. Lee Winnells only directed Insidious Chapter 3,
Starting point is 01:17:10 which is out this year. There you go. But he's obviously produced a bunch of other stuff and written a bunch of stuff. Yeah, I don't know. That mythology apparently got very complicated, but a lot of people like that about it, that it's so ridiculous and over the top. People are just there for the kills.
Starting point is 01:17:22 And also, some of the Saw movies exist concurrently with other ones. Yes. Like some take place at the same time. Some have Donnie Wahlberg in them. Some have Donnie Wahlberg in them. Specifically the second one. Some have the secretary from bloody... Becca.
Starting point is 01:17:38 From Becca in them. She ends up being the killer in one of them as well. Yes, she does, yeah. See, when you say... How many kills did you say this guy's gotten? 60. See, he hasn't gotten 60. That jigsaw, the persona has gotten 60. Correct. Yeah. There you go. In your face Tobin Bell. That's right. That's the guy. The jigsaw killer. The original one. They keep bringing him back somehow as well. Do you know The Creeper? Are you familiar with him?
Starting point is 01:18:05 It's from Jeepers Creepers. Oh, yeah. They're on my list. Yeah. Number 21. Yeah. Apparently quite a good movie, which I haven't seen. What is the premise of Jeepers Creepers?
Starting point is 01:18:14 Some kind of cave or sewer dwelling flying monster. That's all you get from me. We'll edit this one out. I've got one more. Okay, I'm ready. Hook Hand Guy from I Know What You Did Last Summer. Oh, Hook Hand Guy. He was kind of terrifying at the time.
Starting point is 01:18:33 He knew what they did last summer. He was well aware. Yep. Which was that they hit him with a car and thought they'd killed him, but they hadn't killed him. Yep. But it turned out that he happened to be a murderer, so it was okay that's true yeah yeah that's from what i know i saw the second one where he still knew what they did and he rigged a radio competition radio i think it was a fake radio
Starting point is 01:18:56 competition yeah yeah where his son was the killer his son was called that's right his last name was benson yeah because the killer's name was Ben. And so he's Ben's son. Yeah. And everybody went, and he's like, how come you didn't get that? I'm clearly the killer's son. Uh-huh. And he gets shot at the end.
Starting point is 01:19:13 I don't know. Maybe there was a third one. It's not important. Well, I feel like that went as well as it could have gone. We've got one more, though. Oh, what is it? Well, number one. It's Jason Voorhees.
Starting point is 01:19:21 Of course. Yeah. Yeah, he kills a lot of people. The king of the killers. He's at number one. How many? Well, it says here 146, but I don't think that's necessarily true. Take that.
Starting point is 01:19:30 I think it's less than that. Yeah. Because he doesn't kill anyone in front of the... Well, he kills his mother in... His mother does all the killing in front of the one. Part one, yeah. He gets one kill by dragging her into the lake. But isn't that a dream no that's real but in the second movie doesn't she wake up from that no i think that might be true okay right if it's not who cares but i mean in five
Starting point is 01:19:56 that's a copycat killer okay i think this is including all the person okay but still even if you take that it's still like 120 or something like that. Okay, great. Good for him. Yeah. I know, right? Good on him. At what point does he go supernatural? I guess always, because he's dead? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:13 Or was he dead? Did he die? Well, he died in four. But did he die initially? Because he was a drowned boy. Yeah, I guess he was always technically supernatural. Yes. In a way.
Starting point is 01:20:23 Yeah. Yeah. yeah i guess he was always technically supernatural yes in a way yeah yeah but then in he was killed in four like for good yep and then copycat killer in five yep and then six he was struck by lightning and he came back to life i think good uh they were just like whatever yeah exactly we're gonna contrive away. He doesn't get the hockey mask till three, I think. Okay. Yeah. Great.
Starting point is 01:20:47 Then 80 goes on holiday to Manhattan. Delightful. Yep. Nine, they kill him again. Ten, he goes into space. Which one does he go to hell? Eight. Good.
Starting point is 01:20:57 I think it's eight. So, and then there's Freddy versus Jason. Yes. Which I don't remember hating. No, it's a good time. I think we saw it together, actually. Yeah, we did, yeah. And it was a draw, or he beat Freddy, but Freddy was alive. Yes. Which I don't remember hating. No, it's a good time. I think we saw it together, actually. Yeah, we did. Yeah. And it was a draw or he beat Freddy, but Freddy was alive.
Starting point is 01:21:10 Well, yeah, look, I think people will argue. I mean, fans will argue. People who care will argue. People who care will definitely argue. Yeah. I remember Jason coming out on top in that one. Yeah. But maybe because he's the good guy in that.
Starting point is 01:21:25 Oh, because Freddy's using him to manipulate him to kill people to get people scared of Freddy again or something. Because Freddy's not a full power. Do you think they flipped a coin when they wrote that movie to determine who the bad guy would be? Probably. I think they just filmed two endings. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:39 And just went, yeah, this one. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. But I remember thinking that movie was a bit of fun. Like, because I've got no investment in any of these characters. Like, I don't really care. I remember Freddy looks like he kills him. And then doesn't Jason tear off his arm and stab him with it or something?
Starting point is 01:21:56 Most likely. Yeah. And then he goes to space. But I think that was prior. He went to space first. Yes. But also in the future. It was the future, yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:04 Good stuff. Yeah. Well, like I said, that also in the future. It was the future, yeah. Good stuff. Well, like I said, that went about as well as it could have gone. Yep. Do you agree? Yes. Great. Any other comments? No. I have a comment. Yes. Maybe we should be more informed before we talk about things. No.
Starting point is 01:22:20 No. No. Why would we? Good enough. You know what it's time for then What's it time for It's time for your favourite segment of the show The end And then I drink What are we reading
Starting point is 01:22:33 Oh what are we going to read Yeah I'm doing the thing What are we reading Today What are you reading Well? What are you reading? Well, this week I watched... Have you seen They Came Together?
Starting point is 01:22:49 I've seen the start of it and I quickly wore thin. Did it really? I really enjoyed it initially, but then I was like, yeah. Well, I think you should stick with it. Because I really enjoyed it all the way through. Okay. How dare you? I apologise.
Starting point is 01:23:00 So for anyone who doesn't know, it's not Halloween themed. No. Even slightly. Although I think there is a Halloween party in it. That's how I'm justifying it. Good work. Yeah, so it's Paul Rudd and Amy Poehler. Yep.
Starting point is 01:23:12 They're explaining over dinner to another couple how they met. And they talk about how it's just a classic cliched. Yes. It's like a classic cliched romantic comedy. And then they explain it all at length. And it's by david wayne who directed and created wet hot american summer oh yeah yeah the the movie and the tv series and it is i think it's super funny i really very much plays with the cliches of the romantic
Starting point is 01:23:36 comedy i really enjoy the bit where paul rod goes into his office and his best buddy's there and he's like hey my best buddy yeah there's that yeah you're right i should go back to it it's very funny. All right. Done. A lot of classic cameos from some of your faves. Some of my faves.
Starting point is 01:23:50 Yeah. Punky Brewster? Punky Brewster is not in it. Interesting. Also named Soleil Moonfry. Is that true? Yeah. Did you change that?
Starting point is 01:23:58 No. She should. Yeah. She should. She should. Yeah. It's probably too late. You know, I've been reading.
Starting point is 01:24:03 I bought it ages ago, but I'm finally getting around to it. Yes. Alias. The Jessica Jones. Jessica Jones series. It's really good, right? It's amazing.
Starting point is 01:24:12 Like, it's genuinely amazing. That's right. I can see why everybody loves it. Yeah. And I'm glad they're turning it into a TV series. That's got me even more excited for it. Yeah. And that was one of the earliest comics on marvel's max
Starting point is 01:24:25 imprint which isn't really around anymore yes so it was like the first word is a swear word yeah it is yeah but it's not i feel the max marvel's max imprint could be pretty evenly divided into books that were kind of in the in the on the imprint because they were more mature age and they were, you know, adult subjects and, you know, more, more complicated storylines and just comic books that were just like,
Starting point is 01:24:54 let's have a lot of sex and violence and swearing. Cause it's funny. Yeah, absolutely. There was a Nick Fury series on there that was very much the latter. Oh, okay. Like,
Starting point is 01:25:03 yeah, I don't know. I'm not, I'm not familiar with it. You love Punisher Max though, don't you? Punisher Max was very much the latter. Oh, okay. Just like, yeah. I don't know. I'm not familiar with it. You love Punisher Max though, don't you? Punisher Max was very good, yeah. Yeah. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:25:10 Yeah. What else do you like? Just generally. Yeah. Walks in the park. Just a long walk. I like a hike. I like a hike.
Starting point is 01:25:17 Yeah, hikes. Buddy, take a hike then. Can I put on appropriate shoes? Yeah, you can do that. Thank you. I appreciate it. Also, I'm probably going to watch because we're talking
Starting point is 01:25:25 about horror movies there's a movie that I think it's on on demand now it's on iTunes it's called The Final Girls yeah
Starting point is 01:25:30 we haven't really talked about it but the trope in horror movies is that at the end there's always just one woman left
Starting point is 01:25:40 like everybody else is dead but we've got left the final girl yeah and the idea behind that as I understand it is that you know a lot of people be like well it's kind of you know it's
Starting point is 01:25:49 kind of feminist because women hooray and etc sure but i think the the idea behind it was originally that you want somebody you want one person left at the end to triumph but also you want them to experience abject terror yes that is the point of the horror movie. That's like Cabin in the Woods stuff. And movie studios were like at the time, well, you can't have a man experience abject terror because he's a man. So they got to make it a girl.
Starting point is 01:26:15 Good point. So it was more just, I don't know. A man will kick a ghost at the end of his bed. Yeah, exactly. Just exactly. A real man. So it was just like a more narrative, like a business decision. Yeah, exactly. Just exactly. A real man. So it was just like a, more a narrative, like a business decision.
Starting point is 01:26:26 Yeah, of course. Yeah. But this series? Oh, it's called The Final Girl and it's a movie. Oh, sorry. Seemingly composed entirely of final girls.
Starting point is 01:26:36 Okay. Like that's the entire cast. Like it's a, this woman who, like her mother's died and she was like a famous scream, like a, she was a famous final girl
Starting point is 01:26:44 in the 80s kind of thing, like a scream queen. And this woman, she finds herself and her friends pulled into, like, the mother's most famous movie. Okay. Camp Bloodbath. Right, right. And they've sort of got to fight off the killer.
Starting point is 01:26:59 But, of course, they know all the tropes and stuff like that. I think I've seen a trailer for that. Have you? Okay. Is it a comedy-ish as well? Yeah, it's comedy. It's comedy horror. It's got Marlon Ackerman in it. Okay. Yeah, yeah. She's great. Good stuff like that. I think I've seen a trailer for that. Have you? Okay. Is it a comedy-ish as well? Yeah, it's comedy. It's comedy horror. It's got Marlon Ackerman in it.
Starting point is 01:27:06 Okay. Yeah, yeah. She's great. Good stuff. Yeah. I will watch that, I think, also. I will also watch it. Because it looks pretty sweet.
Starting point is 01:27:14 And maybe we'll have some informed opinions about it later, but probably not. I just want to mention as well, Supergirl aired this week, and I missed it. And I want to go back and watch it. I've heard mixed things. I've heard there's an excellent... Patton Oswalt on Twitter said there's an excellent fight sequence in it. Cool. All right.
Starting point is 01:27:28 All for it. I trust that guy. Me too. With my life and yours. Oh no. More yours. So I'll definitely get around to that this week. Well, you know, let's do some letters then.
Starting point is 01:27:38 But before we do letters, you have to do that thing that you have to do. We forget it sometimes. Look, every week you refuse to edit in another letter's theme. I refuse. Because it's more work for you. Correct. So what I like to do is if the listeners would like to send in, they'd like to create their own theme, put it up on YouTube,
Starting point is 01:27:58 tweet me the link to it, and maybe I'll play it just through my phone. Because that's the only way we bloody get things done. So anyway, last week we forgot and of course we couldn't go back and edit one in because that defeats the conceit of the bit we're doing exactly so if we forget that's it but anyway we've got one this week ask for horror movie themed themes so here's one
Starting point is 01:28:20 I don't have the the creator listed but I'll get it in a second but here it is here we go I'm ready alright so next week I guess
Starting point is 01:28:30 we're probably going to do a horror movie or a horror comics themed episode so if anyone wants to send in a horror themed that would be so good that would be pretty good we'll just send somebody going letters over and over and go ooo over the top that's fine sir
Starting point is 01:28:43 I'll be equally scared edit this together you say letters letters someone do something with that the letters theme that everyone wants but james refuses to edit in i refuse oh he's done it again letters letters letters Oh, he's done it again. Letters. Letters. Letters.
Starting point is 01:29:11 Letters. I refuse. Letters. Letters. So spooky. So spooky. Letters. Letters.
Starting point is 01:29:22 I refuse. The lettuce theme that everyone wants. I refuse. James, you're a dick. Letters. I refuse. The latest thing that everyone wants. I refuse. James, you're a dick. Letters. It's a lion. Horror movie. Letters.
Starting point is 01:29:35 Horror movie. Horror movie. Letters. Equally scared. James, you're a dick. You're a dick. You're a dick. you're a dick you're a dick you're a dick you're a dick
Starting point is 01:29:46 pretty good right that was from Samuel Raycraft Cat Levy that is insane that's excellent work normally like
Starting point is 01:29:55 that was lengthy but I enjoyed all of that very good good work Samuel yeah I'm in a way I'm too scared to listen to these letters
Starting point is 01:30:02 I'm too scared now now let's listen to the first letter. Isn't a letter. It's a tweet. So maybe that'll ease you into it. Like I said last week and probably the week before, if you hashtag weekly planet pod and Twitter, one of us at Wikipedia Brown or at Mr.
Starting point is 01:30:16 Sunday movies, I'll just throw it out there. We'll have a look and we'll try and do some Twitter questions as well. You know, it's, this is from dynamite Scott. He says, what are your favorite nineties action movies?
Starting point is 01:30:24 Some of mine are speed mask of Zorro, the edge point break, as well. You know it. This is from Dynamite Scott. He says, what are your favourite 90s action movies? Some of mine are Speed, Mask of Zorro, The Edge, Point Break, Rumble in the Bronx and Time Cop. Man, I really loved
Starting point is 01:30:32 Rumble in the Bronx when it came out. Yeah. Like that was the first because Jackie Chan had been making movies for ages. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:38 But I had no idea. Yeah. But just that just that frenetic pace and the weird dubbing and the time he fights a guy by hitting him about the face with a fridge and just the stunt blooper reel at the end. Where he's just getting hurt.
Starting point is 01:30:55 Where he clearly breaks his ankle and they just put a weird, they put a cast that just looks like one of his shoes. They spray it so it looks like a shoe and then they put that back on. And he bloody goes at it again yeah cool good stuff i've just got a really look i'd love to do an episode on this oh totally really quick list for me yeah uh speed obviously die hard three is great die with the vengeance yeah okay um the matrix yes True Lies. Yes, that's one of the best. Yep. The Mummy. I mean, there's some weird bits.
Starting point is 01:31:28 Yes. We'll get to it. Sure. We'll get to it. The Mummy, I really enjoy. I did enjoy it. Starship Troopers. Double Impact, but not because I've seen it.
Starting point is 01:31:36 Because you gave me a wood-mounted Double Impact poster once. Yeah, for your birthday or Christmas or something. Do you remember? Yeah, I remember. Oh, I remember. He also gave me a wood-mounted Bon Jovi poster. Oh, yeah. I did that christmas yeah i remember oh i remember he also gave me a wood mounted bon jovi poster oh yeah i did that a lot i remember now where he's it's bon jovi like shoulder deep in water naked and he's got a thorn of rose thought of crown of roses and he's holding
Starting point is 01:31:58 out a rose to the person who's looking at the poster yeah and. And I just, whenever I moved, I took that with me for years. Yeah, I remember. I don't know where it is now. But yeah. And I remember the Double Impact poster said, because it's twins and both of them are Van Damme,
Starting point is 01:32:13 and it says, one packs a punch. One packs a piece. Exactly. Yeah. Some of the best. That poster's probably the best thing about that movie.
Starting point is 01:32:20 Any more? But we'll do an episode on that. Oh boy. Look, face off. Yeah. I enjoyed that a lot like it's ridiculous yeah exactly but yeah uh the rock the rock also yeah that's great i feel a lot of people have a lot of love for con air okay yeah i like don't so much okay like if i'm gonna pick one of those i'm gonna pick kind of a jerry bruckheimer yeah kind of i think i'll go with something else. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:46 Fair enough. Man. Because Face Off is just Travolta and Cage just being each other and just mugging and just shooting. Yeah. And doves. Yeah. Just two-handed some golden guns and just speed boats. Spinning around.
Starting point is 01:33:03 Spinning about. Oh, so good. Universal Soldier. I barely remember it. Yeah, I don't know if it's going to hold up, but there was definitely a necklace of ears in that. Bad Boys 1. Never seen it.
Starting point is 01:33:17 I've seen 2 and I hated it, so I'm never going back. Here's the thing. If you'd seen 1, you would have hated 2 all the more. Bad Boys 1 is pretty good. But again, I haven't seen it since it came out, which was like 95. Okay, sure. Well, they're making a third one, so we'll get to that, won't we? Pick a Steven Seagal movie.
Starting point is 01:33:34 Under Siege? Executive Decision. Nate, but it's not really... He's still in it. Yeah, all right, fine. All right, fair. Under Siege 2. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:41 Really? The one on the train? What's the one where he goes into the bar, he's looking for Johnny Lupo, and he beats up like 20 guys? Do you remember this? It could have been any of them. It's really good. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 01:33:53 Yeah. Did I show you the Aikido footage of Steven Seagal? No, I was showing my brother. Uh-huh. Look up Aikido Steven Seagal Russian demonstration. Oh, yes. It's Steven Seagal thinking that he's good at Aikido and everybody else
Starting point is 01:34:07 just flipping away from him. Guy's a dickhead. Yeah. Yeah. Great. Like, for not just because his movies are mostly bad because he seems like
Starting point is 01:34:14 a genuine dickhead. Yeah, that's very true. Yeah. Anyway, we'll do an episode on that. Just the 90s. Yeah. Maybe next week,
Starting point is 01:34:20 but maybe not. Maybe not. Yeah. Got another letter here. Okay, I'm ready. Do you want to say some more 90s things? No, I'm just looking at a list. Good, good. Hey, go. not. Maybe not. Yeah. Got another letter here. Okay, I'm ready. Do you want to say some more 90s things? No, I'm just looking at a list.
Starting point is 01:34:27 Good, good. Hey, goat. I think we got it all. We did, didn't we? Hey, goat man and the guy, it's Ryan from Scotland. I was just wondering if you think we'll see Peter Parker and Jessica Jones, because in the comics they went to school together. Thanks, keep up the good work.
Starting point is 01:34:40 P.S., can I be the official Scottish goat of the podcast? Yes. Yes. No. We won't yes no we won't we absolutely won't she looks in this universe she's obviously
Starting point is 01:34:50 older than him yeah because he's like gonna be 15, 16 yeah and she's 30 minimum
Starting point is 01:34:57 sure yeah she's however old Kristen Ritter is exactly I would assume yeah because in the comic book she's sort of been interwoven into yeah yeah uh yeah because in the in the comic book she has
Starting point is 01:35:05 sort of been interwoven into his backs yes peter parker's backstory in the sense that she was like interested in him romantically kind of thing yeah he never really he was sort of oblivious yes because he was too busy with his book learning yeah it's yeah i like that idea but i know i don't think it it wouldn't it couldn't it... It couldn't work in this current incarnation. But maybe she got kept down. Maybe they did. Maybe they did. Like 15 years.
Starting point is 01:35:33 Yeah, that's right. Ooh. Okay, his last letter. I'm ready. Hey, Mick and Nathan. I recently saw a video... Speaking of which, we got... Xena Warrior Princess.
Starting point is 01:35:42 We got Xena Warrior. We got Lucy Lawless herself saying our famous catchphrase, grab that gem. And also Tommy Wiseau. From the creator of The Room. Lunatic from The Room. Lunatic from The Room, which is pretty excellent. Thanks to everybody who keeps making those happen.
Starting point is 01:35:54 We love it. We love them. Also, I like to think that there's now, there's like some celebrity, like celebrities are getting together and being like, did you, did somebody make you so, what is, what's going on there? How do you, like maybe there's a Reddit. Maybe there is a Reddit.
Starting point is 01:36:10 Celebrities just going in there going, what, what happened? Speaking of Reddit, I do enjoy the Reddit that people make. I do visit it. Um, it's, is it the weekly planet on Reddit? Yes. There's a bunch of good, so people normally put them up there if you want to see them. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:23 Anyway, this, uh, I recently saw a video of Star Wars fan theories, which I'd like to hear your opinion on, particularly the one where Han is Force-sensitive but doesn't know it. The explanation is basically that he's really insanely lucky being able to navigate an asteroid field at basically impossible odds and, in the current canon, dodge Greedo's blaster bolt from a few feet away with a CGI head tilt and fire back almost immediately.
Starting point is 01:36:47 Now, you love a good Star Wars fan theory. No. You're indifferent to a good Star Wars fan theory. You know what? I am getting sick of fan theories. There you go. Now everything's linked to everything else. You've become a real curmudgeon.
Starting point is 01:37:02 Yeah, but maybe Harry Potter's really in a different universe and he's a time traveller and he's a time lord. Maybe he is in a real different universe. I mean, he is a time traveller as well. Yeah, exactly. Both of those things are certainly true. What happened to that time turner thing?
Starting point is 01:37:14 Could have bloody used it in the last couple of movies, eh? Absolutely. In all of those movies. I just saw a theory that Jar Jar Binks is force sensitive. Yep. In fact, he's a,
Starting point is 01:37:25 he's a, he's the equivalent of the theory goes essentially that he is, that he is some sort of Jedi master, but in like the equivalent of like drunken Kung Fu style. Okay. Right. Which is why he's kind of, you know,
Starting point is 01:37:39 he's, you know, at one point, at one point he like, he's, he's got a blaster caught around his leg and he just zaps people with it and stuff like that. Like the idea is, look, I like the idea. Yep.
Starting point is 01:37:51 I think it's fun. Yep. I'm not going to rewatch those movies to determine whether that has any validity. No. Yeah. Oh, I just dropped the thing. Yeah, you're right. Why am I being so curmudgeon-ing about it?
Starting point is 01:38:01 You're such a curmudgeon-ing. I do like a fan theory. I apologize. But I think anything can be read into anything. And yes, he is Force sensitive or he isn't. Is he?
Starting point is 01:38:12 Who are we talking about? Han Solo. No. Stop it. He's just... He is lucky. Yeah, he's lucky. That's exactly it.
Starting point is 01:38:21 You need characters that aren't... Again, I like these fan theories but you need characters who are just... He's skilled in some ways. Yep. Like he's been doing... The idea that he can dodge Greedo's blaster or whatever. Yeah. It's because he's just...
Starting point is 01:38:37 He's been in these situations enough. Yes. People have tried to kill him enough that he knows when it's coming and he can dodge out of the way. It's the similar to... Like we've talked about, you know, the Batman v Superman theory that the Ben Affleck character we see in the trailer is in fact Deathstroke. Yes. And he can run into a collapsing building because he's a metahuman and it won't hurt him. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:00 But the simpler explanation is Ben Affleck is Bruce Wayne Batman. He doesn't have any superpowers, but he's going to run into that building to save people. He's done it before. He's done it before, but he's going to run into that building to save people because that's what he does. That's right. Even if it will be dangerous. We need characters who don't have some sort of mystical energy field. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:39:22 That brings me back to what I meant to bring up earlier. field energy field that yeah exactly that brings me back to his destiny exactly i meant to bring up earlier the reason why jason todd isn't the joker is because jason hood todd might turn up in the red hood movie that's what that makes more sense yeah yeah which i'd rather see than that jason todd theory be true me too good good right last really really quick letter um hey lads can you do something for me my brother's moving to new york with his girlfriend on wednesday he's a massive fan of the podcast and he wants some sweet New York accent. I assume so. And the one who got me listening to this many moths ago,
Starting point is 01:39:51 your own moths. Sure. Maybe he's trapped in the dark room. He's just got a, like a flickering fluorescent light. Can you wish Adam and Emma the best of luck in New York and give them your best? Forget about it,
Starting point is 01:40:01 please. No worries. If you don't take care, Thomas from Dublin. Hey, I'm walking here. Forget about it. Forget about it, please. No worries if you don't. Take care. Thomas from Dublin. Hey, I'm walking here. Forget about it. Forget about walking. That's what you're going to encounter in New York.
Starting point is 01:40:11 A hundred times a day. Anyway, good luck. Good luck, mate. All right. That's the show for this week. We did it again. Don't know what we're doing next week. Not Spectre, apparently.
Starting point is 01:40:20 Yeah. So maybe we will do 90s action movies or something. I don't know. Maybe we can do another James action movies or something I don't know maybe we can do another James Bond yeah I guess I could you have to watch all the Roger Moore movies
Starting point is 01:40:29 oh god or whichever yeah I guess maybe we can watch Lazenby don't do that I guess we'll probably I think I've said before we'll compact
Starting point is 01:40:37 Lazenby and Dalton together alright why don't we do Sean Connery or the other one we'll figure something out we'll do one of them yeah yeah yeah good stuff
Starting point is 01:40:44 or we'll do something else depends if I get one of them. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Good stuff. Or we'll do something else. Depends if I get around to watching 15 Bond movies or whatever. Right, exactly. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Where can people find us? Oh, they can find us at Weekly Planet Pod on Gmail and Facebook and Twitter and Bandcamp where we've got heaps of commentaries up, movie commentaries.
Starting point is 01:40:59 That's correct. People enjoy them. If you are a Patreon though, at patreon.com slash MrSundayMovies, you can get those automatically there already for free. Nice. Or you can a Patreon though at patreon.com slash MrSundayMovies you can get those automatically there already for free. Nice. Or you can just play them from Bandcamp.
Starting point is 01:41:08 But also you might get that sweet Star Wars video maybe I put up early. Sure. Unless you've binned it. It's called What If Star Wars The Force Awakens Is Bad
Starting point is 01:41:16 or something like that. Oh boy. And maybe what the fallout will be from that or how it could be bad. I made it but I can't remember what I've done in it. Okay, sure.
Starting point is 01:41:23 So if that's not up The wheels are really falling off. Boy, have they. That's if I... I don't know. It depends if I end up making this other Batman video. Who knows, Mason? You'll find out tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:41:32 Yeah. We all will. Oh, yeah. I'm at Rickopedia Brown on Twitter. I'm at MrSundayMovies. Now, I mentioned last week that we're going to have a sponsor this week. That's actually going to be next week.
Starting point is 01:41:40 So be ready for that at the start of next year. We've recorded a very rambling audio copy that they're definitely going to reject. But if they don't we'll bring it in next week that's right yeah man we're very excited
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Starting point is 01:42:03 our listeners they're probably pretty good I'd imagine so they're probably pretty good. I'd imagine so. They're podcasting, aren't they? They sure are. Yeah. All right.
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