The Weekly Planet - 115 Star Wars: The Force Awakens, Success Or Rehash?

Episode Date: December 21, 2015

Possibly our most anticipated episode ever! Star Wars: The Force Awakens spoiler free and then spoiler heavy review!Plus we get into what makes the Star Trek trailer terrible, Independence Day: Resurgence, Fantastic Beasts And How To Make A Boring trailer, Spider-man popping up in the Doctor Strange movie and more!Star Wars talk starts at 24.12Spoilers go from 55.30 to 1.44.10. Then Mason says something in minute 151. You know what, just avoid everything after 55.30 to be safe.Buy Star Wars movies on Amazon: https://amzn.to/2nc12P4Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesMr Sunday Movies YouTube Channel: https://goo.gl/lB90W2The Weekly Planet YouTube Channel: https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHFind our T-Shirts here: https://goo.gl/q6gE9C Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Where we talk movies and comics and TV shows My name is James, also known as MrSunday With me as always my co-host, Nick Mason Shut up James, stop talking We've got to talk about Star Wars I know I told you to shut up just then But you can continue to talk But it has to be about Star Wars I have some other news to talk about before Star Wars. I know I told you to shut up just then, but you can continue to talk, but it has to be about Star Wars.

I have some other news to talk about before Star Wars. Is that okay? Okay. How about I put the time code at the bottom? So people want to skip ahead to that. I don't normally do it, but because it's Star Wars and people love Star Wars, I will do that.

Or you'll say you're going to do it. Or I'll say, or I mean to do it and I forgot. Either way, best intentions. Just hit the button. Just hit the forward button. Yeah, exactly. 15, 15, 15, 15 and you're there. It's roughly 20 minutes or 40. Who's to say? We might

be done in 10. It's very late. Who knows? We should also point out that we are recording this on the 17th of December, which we discussed. The Thursday. Which is the Thursday. Which is the earliest I think we've ever recorded. Yeah, so there might be huge news over the weekend. That's right.

So we've got no Star Wars figures for how they win the box office, which is a shame and all that kind of stuff. We'll talk about that next week in our very special Christmas episode. The reason is because I'm going away this weekend and also my brother's getting married on Saturday, so we can't do it. Best of luck to him. Wait, which brother? The one that you don't like.

He's bloody misery to you, mate. No, I'm kidding. I hope he has a great time. Yeah, yeah. So blame him if there's big news and we missed it. I will. I was planning on doing it. All right.

Let's talk about the Star Trek trailer that everybody loves universally. It came out and everybody loved it. You don't love it. That's not very good. I loved it. You're the only person who said that. I know. Weird, right? Yeah. Because, and I watched i want you to love it this is good fun and then you said yeah but it's basically guardians

of the galaxy which is what they apparently said remember months ago we talked about it where they're like we want star trek to be less like star trek right more like guardians of the galaxy uh-huh but we have guardians of the galaxy but i feel that yeah but we can have a bit more guardians galaxy yeah the sequel right but i feel that the era of star trek that this is yeah is much more the kind of the wild west era of star trek sure like it's you know a hundred years in the future you've got picard drinking his tl gray hot yes and so on and so forth. Other references from that era of the thing. There's probably others. Q. Data. Warm.

Beverly Crusher. Whoopi Goldberg? Whoopi Goldberg. Yeah, okay. So you're saying that this is the new sexy era of Star Trek. Well, but I'm saying even back then it was the new sexy era of Star Trek, but it was just real slow and boring. Okay.

What I'm saying is they've ramped it up and I like the look of it a lot. Okay. And do you like the use of the song? Yeah. Because it harkens back to the first movie

where he loves the bloody beastie boys. Yep. What this seems to be... But you're saying to me that that is also like in the Guardians of the Galaxy you throw in a bloody top 40 soundtrack and people have fond memories of the movie.

Yeah, retro music and whatever. Yeah, absolutely. And look, I know they did, like I said, they did do that in the first one. But it's upsetting people who love Star Trek. Right. Because this is not what they love, generally. Not like people like, not like Simon Pegg doing a Mission Impossible 2 style

leap out of an escape pod and then grab Do you think Simon Pegg could do that in real life? Absolutely not. Both of his arms would fall off, even the one not grabbing the rock. Yes! That one would go first, oddly. It'd just drop off like a lizard that's being harassed.

No, even fit Hollywood Simon Pegg. Obviously, like spaced era Simon Pegg, like young and all British and pale. Yeah, you know, that guy. Yeah, yeah. He'd be dead. Even Hollywood works out all the time, Simon Pegg. Still dead.

I assume that's what he does. Yeah, that's right. He'd have to, right? But I like the look of it. I like Spock's new haircut. It's so full of volume. It's a Lego man head. I mean, he's always had the bowl cut,

but it looks like a Buffont bowl cut. Yeah, it's great. Is it a wig? It's cut too quick. I can't tell. My powers are useless. Your wigged out powers are useless in this situation. This trailer threw off my wig, Dara.

That's unacceptable. Wow. Yeah. Do you think Zachary Quinto is just like, I'm not getting that haircut again. I have to walk around like that. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, yeah.

I'm a very cosmopolitan gentleman. I reckon maybe that might be it. Like maybe he's got a big shaggy, or like he's got some long flowing locks. Yeah. He'd have great hair. He would. And he's like,

and they're like, you're going to cut it. And he's like, no, you'll pack it down and you put a big bulbous bald cap over it, like a light bulb. And then just put an old like monkey's era, like bald cut hair over that. Or a coconut husk. Yeah. And then they're like, this is going to look weird.

And he's like, I don't care. CG it. I don't know. Look, you made me sign up for three. Find someone else who looks like Spock. You can't. There's one in a generation and it's like, I don't care. CG it. I don't know. Look, you made me sign up for three. Find someone else who looks like Spock. You can't. There's one in a generation and it's me. You can't do it.

What do you bring back Leonard Nimoy? Oh, you can't. You killed him. I killed him. I killed him. There can be only one. I got a tweet here from AtTheDrudo. It says Star Star Trek...

Not a real word, but all right. I don't know what to tell you. This is just what it is. All right, fine. Star Trek teaser. I watched a video of a guy crying because he was so angry at it. It was both hilarious and quite sad. Yeah.

So, yeah. Reaction videos. Yeah, absolutely. So, this is the director of Fast and Furious 7. Which one was that? Can you tell? No, but which one was that? Is that 7? Yeah. Which one's Fast and Furious 7. Which one was that? Can you tell? No, but which one was that? Is that 7?

Yeah. Which one's Fast and Furious? Is that? I don't know. The last one was James Wan, so it wasn't that one. That was 7. I think he did 5 and 6. So it's 4.

Justin Lin. Yeah, 4 is Fast and Furious. Okay. 1 is The Fast and The Furious. Right. I think Fast and Furious is 4 because that was the reboot. Yeah, that's what I said. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He did 4 then. He did. No, I think he. No. There's no that was the reboot yes I said yeah yeah yeah he did four then he did no I think he no there's no way to know let's move on it's Justin Lin I think

I'm sure he did either five and six or one of those so it looks very kind of that doesn't it yes it does there's dirt bikes there's dirt bike jumping

where'd that come from this is what I'm saying yeah like who is this for that's a really like the general audience i guess but everybody i've said i think it's just for me it's just for you right like i'm gonna see it it'll probably be okay right because when i i when i was a i think we were probably talking about this but i you know when i was a kid i started as a big

star wars fan yep i switched you know when i was like eight or nine or whatever. Then I switched to Star Trek because I was a very serious, like, tween and teen. Absolutely. And it seems more serious, even though it's ridiculous. And you had that bowl cut. Yeah, and I had that bowl cut. And it's like, and Star Trek, you know, it's Star Trek. It's like, ooh, you can get the technical manuals and all that sort of stuff. I'm sure I got some technical manuals.

But then later I'm like, this is a little dry. But now they've brought the fun back to it. Okay, sure. In my opinion. And you know what? There's exploration. Because they're crashed on a planet or whatever. He did four, five, and six.

Oh, wow. There you go. He did all the good ones. Except seven. Seven was good too. Great. Actually, I think four is kind of weak, to be honest. Anyway.

I mean, it doesn't matter. If you cut three of those movies into one, I wouldn't notice. All right. Yeah. Enough of that. Wait. Anything else? Who are they fighting into one, I wouldn't notice. All right. Yeah. Enough of that. Wait. Anything else? Who are they fighting in that?

I don't recognize. Maybe a new race. Also, we still don't know who Idris Elba is. There's an alien you see in it who might be him, but it's just a dude wearing like a mask. It's probably the new James Bond. Yes, that's right. It's just this very kind of thick mask. Oh, yeah.

So it could be literally anyone. If it is him, it's like, ooh, you probably shouldn't have done that. If you got Idris Elba... Yeah, why cover him up? Let him Idris Elba about. Sure, yeah, yeah. Yeah, anyway, that's how it goes.

I'm all for it. I don't care what anyone thinks. Do you care what I think? No. Fair enough. It's a romp, and you know how I feel about romps. They're pretty good. Pretty good, I love them. Okay. They're pretty good. Pretty good.

I love them. Okay. Kurt Russell is apparently being sought for Star-Lord's father in Guardians of the Galaxy 2. Love it. Me too. Yeah. Great hair, great physique. He was good as the superhero in Sky High.

Did you ever see that one? That is a weird reference to Paul, but all right. No, but he's kind of that muscular barrel chested. That was a long time ago. Yeah, like mid-2000s. It actually not bad was he good i kind of i i liked him in the last fast and furious movie as the weird cia man and he's got heineken on he's got he's drinking drinking his heinekens and they're like what are you drinking heinekens corona we ride together we die together oh that's. You know, that whole bit.

I remember. And then he's got two guns and night vision goggles and all of that. See, I like that bit, but he seemed very fragile in that movie. Yeah, he did.

Yeah, yeah. I think he'll be great in this. He's great in everything. Apparently, The Hateful Eight's great for late. And there's a Netflix. Did you see that?

On Netflix. Oh, The Ridiculous Six. Yeah, Adam Sandler's four movie deal with Netflix. Netflix you see that? On Netflix. Oh, the Ridiculous Six. Yeah, Adam Sandler's four movie deal with Netflix. The first one's out and apparently they haven't pulled it, but they've buried it. Like, it doesn't show up in your...

It won't show up in your, like... Mailbox. Yes. Well, yeah, exactly. It won't show up in your mailbox, certainly. If it does, you call the police. But it won't show up in, like, you know how you open up Netflix and it's like, now here's some brand new stuff. Or, you know, recently added. Like, it's not in any of those.

Oh, wow. They really pushed it down. Yeah, yeah. So it's apparently total garbage. Yeah. But there's three more on the way. Yay! Look, I haven't watched one of those movies in years.

I shouldn't judge. But, you know, we should judge. The Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them trailer. Oh, yeah. Now, to me, it's pretty boring, wasn't it? Yeah. We see literally no Fantastic Beasts, right? Or Where to Find Them.

I mean, they could be around. Probably in London. No, no, this is in New York. So he goes to New York with a case of Fantastic Beasts. A case of Beasts. A case of Beasts and lets them go. Now, he's the guy who writes one of the famous Harry Potter textbooks, and it's set like 60 or 90 years before or whatever.

There you go. Maybe that, no, we were originally going to call it Young Dumbledore Chronicles, but they, no, that's not true. I was going to say, that's embarrassing. Wow. Yeah, it's Newt Scramander. You wouldn't even get to the, like at the pitch meeting, you wouldn't even get to the like at the pitch meeting you wouldn't even get to the end of the title because it's it it rolls off the tongue real

weirdly you'd be like okay you've written it imagine you're pitching it and you've written it down you're like this is going to be really great you're going through it in your head and then you go in and you're like guys i just like to pitch young dumb but okay no i'm gonna leave i'm gonna leave it's fine don't even Don't even worry about it. I made a mistake. I'm going to walk into the ocean. Look, I am looking forward to it. J.K. Rowling is heavily involved. She's written it.

Warner Brothers are obviously going to push it really hard. So there's no... I like most of the Harry Potter movies. There's a book, but it's not... No, no, it's a textbook in the Harry Potter universe. But I mean, is there... Oh, it probably is a real... There's a hard copy, but it's not a novel, right? No, it's not a novel it's a textbook in the harry potter universe but i mean isn't is there oh it probably is a hard copy but it's probably yeah no it's not a novel so yeah great bring it bring it on bring it bring it on to the cinema and i'll see it we'll see it who are you talking to

to you oh okay i will then all right i have a i have a very small but important stake in the harry potter films what's that if you don't if you don't go through I can't get it made I got no money but there's a switch Is your favourite one the Half-Blood Prince? I don't know which one that is I thought that was the case Who is the Half-Blood Prince? Is it Snape?

Yes Nailed it Shot in the dark I did it Yeah Do another one. I bet I can get it. All right. Young Dumbledore.

Hang on. I need to think. What are the names of them? The Deathly Hallows. What's that? Is it a ship? No. It's like a rock and a stick and a cloak.

It's not a hallows. I didn't write it. All right. Give me another one. I can do one more. Okay. Best of three. Deathly Hallows Part Two.

Gary Oldman. Correct. Yes yes what's the second one one where they fight the snake chamber of secrets okay uh third one is werewolf werewolves prisoner azkaban yeah who's the prisoner of azkaban gary oldman there you go you did it well done i'd paid it out didn't it that's the New segment The worst quiz of all time You have to make it up on the spot You have to not really know the source material And you have to assume that there are hundreds If not thousands of people listening to it And going why is he so stupid

Now the comic guru wants to know What we think of the trailer For the best trailer of the week. I feel Independence Day Resurgence 2. Oh, yeah. Okay. I don't give a shit about this movie. Great.

That being said. Yes. Pretty great. Pretty great. For what it is. For what it is. Yeah, absolutely. I'm going to see it, definitely.

Yeah. We got Goldman back That's good Yep We have maybe another character back But I don't recognise him I thought initially it was Randy Quaid But then he

Turned out to be Bill Paxton Or Bill Pullman Is it one of them? With the beard He was the president And because the alien was in his head He's gone mad probably Oh there you go

You don't know your ID4 law mate That's your problem Test me Okay We're doing the quiz. Okay. Who's the actor who the alien makes talk through? And he's got big long hair.

Justin Long. No. Adam Driver. No. Chris Christopherson. No. He's in Star Trek. J.J. Abrams.

Correct. No. Brent Spinner. Oh, sure. You remember him, right? Brent Spiner. Yeah, that's the one. I said him earlier. I said Data earlier. J.J. Abrams. Correct. No, Brent Spinner. Oh, sure. You remember him, right? Brent Spiner. Yeah, that's the one. I said him earlier.

I said Data earlier. That's what I'm saying. You should have slotted that in. I was building towards it. Oh, okay, right. It is the worst quiz of all time. In a way, it is. Look, I thought it was good.

The odd thing for me, I think, in this trailer is we've used the technology to our tech used the technology to to improve our world to make jets but they've only exactly they've just made jets and guns like we don't see a cool future society no it's from what we can tell it looks exactly the same except the military just got guns yeah yeah yeah we see goldman's dad on a boat do you remember him from the last one nope he's like remember that time you punched the president and for some reason you haven't been put in jail and murdered by the cia yep do, remember that time you punched the president and for some reason you haven't been put in jail and murdered by the CIA? Yep. Do you remember that in the last one, Goblin punched the president? I don't really remember that. You'd think I would. I don't think you could get away with that in a movie now. If you're like, you punched the president,

you can't punch the president. Do you think there's going to be a massive amount of Apple product placement in this? Because in the original, they saved the day with whatever version of the Apple Mac existed back then. Yes. And that was before Apple were really a thing. Yeah. Well, they were a thing and then they,

Jobs left and it died off. Yeah, yeah. And then he came back and then he died. Yeah. So, you know, swings and roundabouts. I think it'll be an iPad Pro.

I think it'll be. But an alien one. Do you reckon they'll like sync up the aliens something? Like it'll be like a little oh they're they're iTunes

players yeah that's right I don't even know what I mean Will Smith's not in it yeah there's a newspaper

article that came out said like he flew the first test jet oh I see and it exploded and he died oh very good way to get rid of him

but I feel like he could bring him back just be like he was abducted yeah now he's in the next one. Oh, totally. Yeah.

Whatever. Well, exactly. They could just have him be teleported out at the moment. They'd do it Freejack style. That's exactly right. Get Emilio Estevez out of there. Get him out of there. His son's in it, though.

Not his actual son. His son. Thank God. He has a son that, I don't think it was his actual son. I think he married into, it's his stepson. Oh, I see. Vicar A. Fox. Son-in-law?

Yeah, son-in-law. Vivica A. Fox, yes. Yes, Vivica, thank you. She's in this as well. Okay. So, yeah. Right, okay. I don't know.

Does he have, because we see him very briefly, right? Yeah. Do you think he's got that Will Smith charisma we want? He does. Do we want- He's got welcome to earth tattooed on his chest. Oh, very good. Do we want the Will Smith charisma in this movie?

No, I think you should do a different thing. Yeah. Don't ape Will Smith. Because it doesn't seem as funny. Like, it doesn't... No. I mean, there's no way to... I mean, the original, the trailer wasn't funny in any way,

I don't think. So there's no way to know. The White House exploded. Yeah, but I mean, this... There was this... I feel that in the 90s, there was a certain assumption that everything was going to be a little bit goofy. Okay, sure, yeah.

Like, you watch an Independence Day or a Face-Off or The Rock or something like that. You're like, this is going to be a little bit wacky no matter what. Yeah, yeah. This doesn't look that way. No, not at all, no. There's a spaceship as big as the Earth. Yeah.

Do you think that's the original... Like, that's where they like that's where all they're all living because they mentioned something stephen hawkins said a thing a few years ago about stephen hawkins hawkins thank you no hawking hawking what did i say doesn't matter i don't care okay okay uh where like if there is an alien species out there we probably shouldn't make contact they've probably depleted their sources and they're floating around in a big giant ship and if they find us we're dead yeah yeah and that seems like that's what this is well that's what it was in the first one yeah well there's a do you know do you know about the fermi paradox is that some kind of drink it's a drink

it's got a lot of electrolytes oh get into it i'm plugging it right now uh but no it's basically you know there's there's a whole bunch of equations that say well okay there's there's this many you know stars there's got to be many stars, there's got to be this many planets, there's got to be this many inhabitable planets, there's got to be this blah, blah, blah. So there should be X number of intelligent civilizations in the universe. Sure. But the Fermi paradox is like,

so why have none of them contacted us? Why is there literally no evidence of them anywhere? Like why have we never seen any structures that are artificial or anything like that? Yeah. And there's like, it's really kind of fascinating. But one of the ideas is... We're alone in the universe.

Yeah, that's the sad one. That's the sad branch of the Fermi tree. But the other one is basically, well, there's a lot of them, but one of the other ones is there's like one species that became advanced first. Yeah. And decided that everything below them is a threat. So as soon as we reach that level, they're going to kill us. God.

We can't even do the podcast then, presumably. Yeah, that's right. Because they'll know. People will miss that. That's where true power comes from, podcasting. And they know that we'll be the first to go. Oh, well, I never heard that. That's interesting and terrifying. from, podcasting. And they know that we'll be the first to go. Oh, well, I never heard that. That's interesting and terrifying. Yeah, it's very terrifying.

So it's based on statistics and whatever. So it's like, well, logically speaking, that's what would happen. One would eventually rise to power and be afraid of everything else. That's certainly one of the options. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Great. I prefer the alone in the universe one, to be honest. You're about to choose.

Well, you don't. None of us do. Also, a gamma ray burst might happen and kill everybody in the in the galaxy yeah that one's okay i guess yeah it's great isn't it great yep looking forward to it yeah it should be good or not good i don't care i don't care at all would you rather um oh yeah what's his name's in it hemsworth not the good. The destruction of the universe? Yes. Yeah, he's definitely in that. But I feel all of them are in the destruction of the universe

if it happens, ultimately. Not the brother. Not the one that nobody knows. They wouldn't bother. Liam. No. There's another one. Chad.

Oh, Chad Hemsworth. Still his real name. No. Anyway, what were you saying? I was going to say, would you rather this Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them and it's not very good or the entire universe is wiped out by a Gamma Ray Burst? How long is the Fantastic Beasts, roughly?

Gamma Burst! I'm sure both will be fine. What if it's just a Gamma Burst? You know it. Okay. Deadpool trailer's coming out Christmas Day. There's been 12 days of Deadpool leading up to that. Oh, that's very good.

So they're doing a different thing on a different site I've watched the first one and I haven't really gone back and watched the other ones yet at all I will is it

so it's not a clip from a movie it's an original thing it's like different sites have like different ones ooh is it a little scavenger hunt in a way

is it like an advent calendar across the internet it's exactly except 12 days as opposed to 24 how many days in December to Christmas?

Part of the quiz, ladies and gentlemen. The worst quiz. All right. Last bit of news. I'm sorry that we're not talking about Star Wars yet. Tom Holland has been on the set of Doctor Strange. Ooh. Spider-Man.

Spider-Man. Now, that doesn't mean he's necessarily in it. Might just be visiting. That's right. That being said, they have a lot of fun interactions in the comics. That's true. Spider-Man. Spider-Man. Now, that doesn't mean he's necessarily in it. Might just be visiting. That's right. That being said, they have a lot of fun interactions in the comics. That's true. They're friends, Spider-Man and Doctor Strange. Unlikely duo, would you say?

Very much so. One's all about capes and the other one's all about punching guys with capes. Wow. The original odd couple. That's right. So, yeah, if he's in it, great. That makes sense because the next movie after that i think might even be spider-man or the next year at least anyway so who knows they keep they change

the list sounds like a classic marvel team up yes it does yes it does mason yeah all right okay yes it's been a big week has indeed i'd love to talk numbers but we do know that there was a hundred million dollars worth of pre-sales for the force awakens right hopefully they had a pretty good opening weekend because because everybody would be sad if they didn't that's right as we're going to talk about star wars we're going to be very sensitive about force awakens specifically yes exactly and then the ewok movie so we're going to go spoiler free and then spoilers. So many spoilers. I will definitely timestamp this.

That being said, if you haven't seen it and you don't want to know anything, don't listen to any of this. Because we're bad at this. That's right. Yeah. Off the cuff, we will just say a spoiler. That's right. And then we'll think about editing it. And then maybe we won't. Because it's late.

These things got to get out. You've got a wedding to get to. It's 1,000 degrees. So hot. It's so hot. All right. So we went to the Melbourne premiere. Yes.

Which is not what you'd think it would be if you're thinking glitz and glamour. Red carpet styles. I mean, the carpet was red, but it's that kind of red with like the geometric pattern on it. So if you vomit, like it conceals, it just sort of blends in. Like at a casino. Yeah, exactly. Premieres here in Melbourne is you walk into a really packed room and then they force drinks on you.

Yeah. And then you shuffle into a theatre. And they steal your phone. There's a lot of, I was going to say minor celebrities but there's not. We saw Cal Wilson who's great. We saw, that's it I think.

Yep. I mean we saw the Star Wars movie didn't we? Yeah, we saw the Star Wars movie. Yeah, it's just, there's a lot of media people

and a lot of people who somehow got tickets even though they ate nobody. Not pointing any fingers but I'm pointing them directly at us. He didn't want me to say anything, but Steel Sauna's actually helped us out with those tickets

from the Steel Wars podcast, which you were on, weren't you? Yes, we'll talk about that later. Yeah, yeah. Okay, so we also got a BB-8 medal. We did, for bravery. I don't think that's in the bin yet. For bravery, that's right. Okay, let's get into this.

What do you think the story was? I should have taken a photo of the opening crawl, but they took my phone away. They did. It's awkward sitting here to fear without your phone, isn't it? What do you do? He does not... Make a new friend or whatever. No, it doesn't work.

Okay, story though. What are we talking here? Okay, so it's 30 years after Return of the Jedi. Yes. Luke Skywalker. Not about. Yes. Luke Skywalker. Not about. Yes. Not there.

Not in the trailers. Yep. Not on the poster. Not on the posters. He's nowhere. That's right. The Empire's crumbled because the Emperor's dead, but in its place, the First Order, which is basically the Empire.

And against them is the Resistance. Basically, the Rebellion. The more things change, the more they stay the same. Here comes the new boss. against them is the Resistance. Basically, the Rebellion. The more things change, the more they stay the same. Here comes the new boss, same as the old boss. That's right. Won't get fooled again. That's right. He's a pinball wizard.

Just going to say who lyrics now. Oh, that's what you were doing. Yes. Good. Yeah, what did you think of it in general? I loved it. You did love it, didn't you? Look, this is kind of a recurring theme whenever I talk about Star Wars

and the movie coming up. I've said that my biggest concern with this movie is that it's, not that it's going to be bad, not that it's going to be Phantom Menace prequels bad, and people are like, oh, this is so painfully bad and terrible. We'd have so much to talk about. We'd have so much to talk about, but at least it'd be funny kind of thing. My biggest concern was that it'd just be a movie.

You watch it and it's fine like every other movie you watch. And you watch it and you go, oh, maybe I'll get that on DVD or Blu-ray or something when it comes out. And maybe you do and maybe you don't and who cares. That's right. You know what I mean? Exactly. That was the concern. Yes.

Not just a movie. Liked it a lot. Liked it a lot. Yeah. Me too. You know, there are issues with it That was the concern. Yes. Not just a movie. Liked it a lot. Liked it a lot. Yeah. Me too. You know, there are issues with it. Definitely. We're going to get through.

But you know what? There's issues with all of them. Yeah. Yeah. Even like Empire Strikes Back has some weird kind of time jumping kind of stuff and whatever. There's going to be people who, whenever they make a sequel or continuation or a reboot of a beloved franchise, there's going to be people who are going to say,

this isn't a patch on the original, this is not what we wanted, etc. Except if that movie's Mad Max. Yeah, that's right. Fun exception. I think maybe a movie like Tron Legacy came out a few years ago and people were like, it's not a patch on the original. It's not a patch. It's a thousand times better than the original.

It's so much, like if you haven't, Tron is not good. Like, you know, there are people in it who are good, but it's not a good film. No. It's just, if you were a kid and you grew up and you watched Tron and it was this amazing world for its time

and you've spent like any amount of time thinking, but I wonder what a sequel to that would be like and you go through and they release this one. It's never going to be what you thought it was going to, like you've built it up in your head. Whether you've written a whole script for your own sequel or you've just thought, I wonder what adventures, other adventures they've had.

And you just have a bit of an idle thought about that. It's never going to be as good. But Star Wars The Force Awakens me yeah was exactly what i thought a continuation of this would be like it's you know what i would agree with you yeah my concerns were met and that being said it didn't disappoint me like the things where i was like i think it's going to do this uh-huh it did those things yeah but i was like whatever i thought it would i still had a great time right exactly and a lot of that's to do with the cast of the star wars the force awakens you're very good at this

thank you senor segway oh it is hot in here oh my so we got uh returning cast members some of which we won't touch on until spoilers oh Oh, yeah, sure. But the big one that we kind of see everywhere is obviously Han Solo. Yeah, he's in the trailer. He is, yes. We're home. He is. He says a thing. Fantastic.

And Chewbacca. And Chewbacca, sorry. And Leia. And Luke is on the IMDb, so people know he's in it. He is in it. We'll talk about it later. Harrison Ford is amazing in this, right? Yes, he's really, I was going to say pulled out all the stops I don't know if he has

he's really put he's put on what's left of his Han Solo charm yeah and he's really he's gone for broke he hasn't lost that character he hasn't gone I don't really know how to play him anymore I've done too many Air Force Ones I've done too many Clearers and Presence Dangers

you know Firewalls Hollywood Homicide air force ones i've done too many clearers and presence dangers you know firewalls firewalls hollywood homicide hollywood homicide the one with gary oldman the one with anne haish good morning america good morning six days seven nights oh yeah that one yeah yeah where he fights boba fett sorry jango fett yeah the other guys that are jango fett's in that one he's really pirates yeah amazing yeah thank you great mean, I didn't make it. Look, yeah, look, he really, and I think a lot of that's to do with

the way this movie was kind of built. They obviously got him on board from the start and be like, listen, we're going to work closely with you. This is a collaborative process. You've got a lot of free reign here. This isn't going to be you standing on a green screen. We're going to get some fantastic people

to be involved with. J.J. Abrams, I'd imagine, seems like a really fun kind of director to work with really involved kind of gets up and in your face and whatever but not in an obnoxious way sure not in 90s way certainly and i'd imagine a lot of that is a lot of this movie being good is because of that because of the because everything leading up to this has been like this is this has seemed like a lot of fun to make yes like a lot of expectations a lot of stress but everybody is 100 on board yes and i think for me also and i've said this before about the prequels that what the prequels lacked is han solo the character and harrison ford actor. And I don't mean specifically them. Yes. But like somebody who's like, this is dumb in a way.

Yeah. Not even dumb and bad, but like this is a huge event, but it's kind of silly in a way. You need somebody to be there and say, you know. And there's a few lines in this where he really just, they're like, this is important. And he's like, shut up. Yeah.

Let's just do the thing. But at the same time, the character has evolved. Yes. Where he's, there is some sincerity under it. Absolutely. And he's gotten, he's gained some wisdom. He's still the smuggler, but he is also a man who. He's got depth.

Yeah, he's got depth. More depth than he ever has. Yeah, absolutely. I would say. Yeah. Like he hasn't just spent 30 years kind of, when he first kind of showed up showed up i was kind of like has he just been doing this for 30 years and then as the movie goes on it's like oh no some things have happened to him and he's not the same person yes by any stretch uh so yeah he's amazing yes carrie fisher she's in it yeah she's do you think they

little bit of the sheen? No, I don't think they did. I feel like there's a few moments where there's some Sex and the City 2 style tweaks. Did they do that in Sex and the City 2? They certainly did, yes. I might be wrong. She looks great is what I'm saying, though. If they didn't, she looks great.

She looks great and they didn't glam her up. No, no. But she looks... She looks beautiful, right? Agreed? Yes. Good. I think they made her and Mark Hamill lose weight for this as well. I think that was a condition, which is actually what they did in the 70s as well.

They were like, you can be in Star Wars, you have to lose 15 pounds. She's like, fine. Yeah. And of course, you've got Chewbacca, who's really great in this, right? He's very animated in this. Yes, more so than before. Yeah, and I think we'll talk about that in a little bit, but this movie is quite comedic in tone in a lot of places,

and I'm sure people are going to have issues with that. Yes, I've had some issues with it, yeah. But we'll talk about that. Okay, there you go. Yeah, and then of course you've got your C3, Priyayatu, D2, and all that kind of situation, which we'll probably talk about a little bit more because that's more kind of spoilerific, isn't it?

Oh, yes. The new people, though, the new peeps. Yep. Really solid. No, not better than solid. Like very capable to take this on further. I think so, yeah. Yeah.

Because you don't want hollow shells of human beings saying idiot dialogue that children would say. Hayden Christensen. They did the best they could. They really did. All of them did. Yeah, absolutely. I thought for me, Daisy Ridley and John Boyega,

definitely the standouts. Oscar Isaacs was great, but he's not in it as much as them. No, and he doesn't have as much to do. He doesn't bounce off as many people as others. Yeah, exactly. He's more kind of alone for a lot of it or in an X-wing. Yeah, absolutely. He's really good.

Yeah. I think in the next films he's going to take centre stage for some of it. Yeah. But in this he is more of a supporting character. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's good but he doesn't have an arc so much. No. No, that's right.

Yeah. But yeah, I thought Daisy really... I don't know. I'd heard that there were concerns that she was going to be too wooden. Apparently there were talks that when it first started she was a bit kind of stiff. Because she hasn't really... She hasn't done a lot of acting. Right, okay. But... What did she do before really she hasn't done a lot of acting right okay but

what did she do before this let me guess nothing oh okay I honestly don't know I was going to say polo horse training sure

looks about right yeah yeah no I thought she was terrific like she they've kind of she is essentially the Luke Skywalker of this yes

would you say she has like the hero's journey as does John Boyega which we can't really talk about either of those too much into spoilers I think yeah we can't talk about that um the Luke Skywalker of this, would you say? She has like the hero's journey, as does John Boyega, which we can't really talk about. We're either of those too much into spoilers. Yeah, we can't talk about that. No, yeah, okay.

I'll talk about what I was going to say in a second. Sure, okay. But yeah, this series will go on for at least another two movies and then some. They've mentioned

they're talking about doing these potentially forever. Yeah. You could easily come back to these characters. Until the sun burns out. That's right. You could easily come back to these characters. Until the sun burns out. That's right. You could easily come back to these characters

if they'd still want to do it in like 10, 20 years. And I feel like there's enough kind of goodwill built up here and even nostalgia where you could come back in 10 years and be like, and just say they hadn't done another one and be like, it's great to see that character again. Yeah. Yeah, I think all the characters are well developed enough to the point where you like when big events happen to them you do feel for them in a lot in a lot of

in sex like they'll you'll meet a character will will interact with the character for a bit something will happen in their in their sphere in universe and you go, ah, bugger you know what I mean? yeah, absolutely, definitely but I mean, like in the prequels and I'm gonna stop talking about the prequels in a second but they're so, like a lot of the characters in that are so paper thin

they just exist to be a 1950s short order cook with four arms in a space station or whatever and they're there and they're gone, you're like, who cares? Like, if you'd seen all those characters and then a missile, you know, a Death Star, you know, shot a laser in and blew up the whole city, you'd be like, doesn't matter, it's irrelevant. Yeah, exactly.

But no, this is very much not the case. I feel like they went out of their way as well not to cast overly pretty and go with depth. Not that these are ugly people wearing these stretchers. Boy, no. They're not. They're not even Hollywood ugly, which is very attractive. But, John, I mean, they're not like –

Hayden Christensen is more kind of manic and pretty. Yeah, okay. I get what you're saying. Than, say, you know, John Boyega or Daisy Ridley or whatever. We've also got new villains. We've got Domhnall Gleeson. It's kind of your Peter Cushion kind of Tarkin kind of character. And you've got your Adam Driver.

I really appreciated Domhnall Gleeson. He really got into it. Well, he really got into it, but if you want to get the classic Star Wars vibe, you need a... And he's not British. Is he British? I think he's Irish.

But he needs to play that 1970s a... And he's not British. Is he British? I think he's Irish. But you need... He needs to play that 1970s just sort of scenery chewing kind of super sinister British man. Yeah.

And he's got that look. He looks... He's got that... Which is... And he's very charming. Yeah. If you see like About Time and a bunch of other stuff

that he's in, he's very charming. He's very likeable. He's kind of like kind of a Hugh Grant kind of bumbling kind of guy. But in this that he's in. He's very charming. He's very likable. He's kind of like a Hugh Grant, kind of bumbling kind of guy. But in this, he's Hitler. Yeah. There are some very, like, very heavy,

I was going to say illusions, but there's some very straight up, yeah, this is Nazi Germany again. Yeah, that's exactly it. And Kylo Ren, who I guess, for lack of a better word, before getting into spoilers, is your kind of Darth Vader kind of character. I mean, nobody thinks he isn't that.

No, I know, but I mean, there is more to him than that. Oh, sure, yeah. Which we will obviously talk about in spoilers. And of course, there's another guy who we'll talk about, another evil guy who we'll talk about. George Lucas! No, he seems very nice. He made it to the premiere. Yeah, did you see that?. George Lucas. No, he seems very nice. He made it to the premiere.

Yeah, did you see that? The Melbourne premiere. Yeah. No, he didn't. The George Lucas at the premiere. Yeah, he was very, he was very confused. I didn't, I didn't see it. Okay, right.

I've been, I was off the internet since Monday. Me too. Yeah, I stayed off from that week. But to people's credit, I went through all my old tweets from before I saw it. Nobody spoiled anything. So I really, really appreciate that. Appreciate that a lot. Sorry if we spoiled anything.

We probably have said something so far. But anyway. Also, BB8. Oh, yes. The new droid. That's how you do cute and funny. Yeah, people... Did I mention I went to two screens of this?

Yeah, you did. I went to two screens of this? Yeah, you did. Yeah. I went to, I mean, to me, you did. I've said it.

So yeah, I went to the, the media, I guess the media premiere at seven. Yeah. And then I immediately went to, I immediately went across town to a midnight screening with, uh,

Steel Wars, the podcast and Star Walking, which is the, uh, the, the, the world's, uh, longest running star wars fan

group i think oh and so they all went and like everybody loved bb8 yes they consensus is he's top notch he's top notch because they didn't like let's give him a weird voice let's make him they did the opposite of jar jar bing so like people R2-D2 let's do a variation of that do you know who the voice of BB-8 is did you see it in the credits I know well he doesn't have a voice technically

is it Ben Burtt there's two vocal consultants they are Bill Hader and Ben Schwartz that's amazing that's right right is that true yeah

I mean it would be yeah yeah that's amazing I know right I love it I don't know apparently they just I guess it's the same

for all the droids but you get like a vocoder and you just you, right? I love it. I don't know. Apparently they just, I guess it's the same for all the droids, but you get like a vocoder and you just, you say stuff into it and they bloopity, bloopity, bloopity. So I don't know. Well, Ben Burt, who's the sound designer, he did Baby Talk for R2-D2. Oh, okay, yeah. And that's, oh, wow, there you go, man. That's amazing.

Yeah, real. I learnt a thing. Yeah. Bill Hader. Ben Schwartz. Ben Schwartz. Yeah. Great.

From Parks and Rec. I like both those guys. That's really, really cool. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of fun he'll be around a lot yes I'd imagine

unless he exploded we can't say can't say in this can we no but yeah a lot of character but not hey look at this guy look at him steal the scenes

or what have you yes he was he's yeah he's like an R2-D2 and then he's there when necessary well yeah, he's like an R2-D2 and then he's there when necessary. Well, he's episodes 4, 5 and 6 R2-D2.

He's not flying about. No. He's there in the background when he's needed. He comes to the fort and then he's gone again. Exactly. Like he's valuable and people value him. Yes. But he's not a...

He's not Luke Skywalker. He's not Luke Skywalker, precisely. That'd be weird. Or is he? Spoiler... He's not Luke Skywalker. He's not Luke Skywalker, precisely. That'd be weird. Or is he? Spoiler alert. Bloody thing springs open. So, action set... I've been in here the whole time.

I'm Luke Skywalker. Do you want to talk... I've been rolling around for ages. I'm dizzy. Do you want to talk... Special effects, or do you want to talk action stuff i guess one of the other that we'll have to talk about both yeah i know but which one's first i'm saying oh special

effects all right go real good yeah uh i think there are exceptions to that and i said that to you after the uh yeah that's true you feel there was some poor integration between there's a couple cgi characters yep which i won't spoil but because everything else is practical, one in particular, the bigger one, really stands out to me. That's true. I think you ease into that character in its subsequent appearances. You're like, I'm just going to go with this. But the first time you see it, you're like, what? Yeah, exactly. like, what? Like, is that what?

Yeah, exactly. Like, what is it? And it's, I think it's a scale issue. It's definitely a scale issue as well. Yeah. Yeah. Without, yeah. But it's, we can't, we can't obviously talk about it. Yeah, we'll get to it in a minute.

But you know what it is? It's, with a lot of CGI characters, I think it's all in the eyes. And I think with one of the other CGI characters... The other one's definitely better. Better, because the character in question has what appears to be real human eyes. Yes, yes. Pulled out and...

Jabbed it out. Given to an intern, or like a grip on set. He's just holding some eyes, and then they CGI over the top. Exactly. Also, with the puppeteer stuff, there's a lot of your background kind of aliens. I feel like for some of them, and I might be wrong, they tweaked them with CGI to give them a little bit more breath

and a little bit maybe more texture and things like that. I'm 100% okay with that. Yeah. If they do do that, do do. If I didn't say it, you would. Yeah, I know. I think that's a great idea it's great

it's this movie is is like the poster child for I don't think it's the poster child for practical effects it's a poster child for a

pretty much seamless blending yes of CGI and practical effects agreed in the same way that Mad Max is because there is a lot of

CGI in Mad Max more than you'd initially think yeah like you know your space battles are obviously uh flawless whatever all your spaceships and whatever your locations yeah I think and it's it was they did very well I think easing into big scale battles yes like we we start with a like the opening shot for example yeah after the credit scroll it's not like a thousand ships like it's not episode three yeah it's very simple it's very effective you get it you understand it's not in the world yeah exactly it's no like star destroyer

flying over from the first new hope yeah but you can never replicate that no exactly yeah yeah but it's it's it's like yeah that's a nice twist on whatever so yeah whatever the thing is angles it's a nice twist on angles very uh very good yeah but as far as action goes well how did you find that i liked it a lot um there's some chopping wood as i we mentioned before. Yes, that's right. Because we've got characters who are not trained Jedis. Some of them are trained soldiers. They're doing the best they can. That's right, exactly. They're skilled in some ways.

They're not skilled in others. Yes. I think they carry that off very well. There's no spinny, spinny kind of like... Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not the Phantom Men spinny kind of like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not the Phantom Menace. It's not a lightsaber battle in this. Is there even any?

Who's to say? It's not that game of chess where every move means death or whatever. It's chopping wood. It's chopping wood, yeah. Everyone's chopping wood. Yeah. Because the thing is as well, in this universe, there's not a thousand Jedi. Yes.

So not everybody is proficient and it kind of it makes sense in the world so when you get two people meet yeah they're both kind of like how how do we do this i've never lightsabered actually anyone for real i don't know yeah what do we do here that's it so yeah that i really enjoyed the space stuff was kind of like yeah it's fine like it looks great but i'm like yeah great it's fine. Like, it looks great, but I'm like, yeah, great. It's all fine. That lightsaber stuff, it's the old school kind of Kendo stuff that they did in the originals. Oh, okay, great.

It's the two-handed, swing it like it's heavy. Yep. Again, your chopping wood kind of thing. And it's not, but they've made it out of modern day material, so there's no danger they'll just shatter in your hands. That's exactly right, yeah. Or shatter your hands. Or shatter your hands, yeah.

So, yeah, I don't know. I guess we can, we'd probably talk about more of the action kind of stuff later. There's a lot of like real explosions, real kind of running through the desert, that kind of stuff, you know,

all that, all that bizzo. Yeah. How did you find the humor? You mentioned it before. I was just going to say the humor. Yeah. Look, I liked it a lot.

I would understand if people don't. Yes. There's a, there's a lot of jokes in this. There's a lot of jokes in this. Yes. There's a lot of... I think they work really well, though. Look, I agree.

There was nothing that made me groan. Yes. But it got to the point where it's like, is every person in this the funny one? Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you know what I mean? No, I know what you mean. Everybody has a quip and a little wink and a nod.

Yeah, I felt it was very... Is J.J. Abrams known for his humour so much? Yeah, like Star Trek, the reboot. Yeah, I feel it was very much like... It's not taking itself as seriously as perhaps some of the other movies in the series. I think we will see that in the next one. And we learn this very early on that it's not taking itself as seriously.

Exactly, yeah. Like quite early on. and it's quite funny yeah it is yeah that first moment um and that does set the tone and i would imagine huge star wars fans might at the five minute mark might go nope like this is not they want they would i can't speak for any of them, but they would want a deadly serious... You can speak for all of them. Okay, I'm going to speak for every Star Wars fan. They want a deadly serious space opera drama. Yes. They're not going to get that.

No, and you know what? There's a lot of humour in the other movies. Yeah. In particular, A New Hope. Yeah. And a lot of that does come from Han Solo. Yeah. But there's a lot of Han Solo-ing from everybody in this.

I was, yeah, look, this is my number one, this is the thing that I think people, I can say this before the spoilers, I think. Sure. A thing that I think people are going to be concerned about in this movie is that it reuses a lot of tropes and situations situations and settings yes from the other movies yes and in a way it does feel like they've gotten all the characteristics of the characters from the previous movies and mixed them up and assigned them randomly to some characters and there's some yeah like i said there's a lot of settings and there's a lot of

situations that we have seen before they're in this yes and if you're expecting brand new situation brand new characters you you're not that's not gonna work but this is a star wars sequel yes you need certain elements to make it a star Wars sequel. Yes. You don't need trade tariffs. You don't need blockades. You don't need any of this. You know what? The crawl lets you know that straight away as well. Yeah.

Like the first four words, which I'll say in the spoilers, are just like, great. Yeah. And I'm not talking where it says The Force Awakens. I'm talking like the actual top of the paragraph. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. When I read that, I'm like, that's amazing.

Good. Excellent. Yeah. But I knew it was going to be derivative not new i suspected because jj abrams is big on kind of greatest hits yeah star trek his star trek reboot is a new hope yep into darkness is wrath of khan yeah the one off just sort of train monster is sort of. Train Monster is E.T. mixed with, I guess... A train. A train. Yeah.

You know what I mean? All those kinds of stuff. So I was expecting this. Yeah. But it didn't bother me. I'm like, you know what? That's what this is. Yeah.

Yeah, fine. Whatever. And I've said this so many, many times. There are directors now who are very good at taking a thing that you liked as a kid, maybe a long-running thing like a TV series or whatever. Like Tron, it ran for so long. Thank you. But that and just taking, extracting what is good in it,

concentrating it and giving it to you in two hours and going, that's. Yes. And if you like that sort of thing, you're going to enjoy this. And in the past, some of that I've enjoyed, some of it I haven't. And like I said, this is exactly what I imagined a Star Wars sequel would be like. A good one.

Yeah, a good one. That's a better way to say that. And so I enjoyed it a lot. I'm sure there are people out there who have spent 30 years going, I think a Star Wars sequel will be like this, and they're going to be disappointed, I guess, in a way. Definitely. There are people who love the expanded universe, and they want the they want certain characters to end up in certain places they want characters to evolve in certain ways they're not going to do that no so they're going

to be disappointed that's exactly right i'm not that's and you know what people you know where my style my nostalgia is where in the bloody bin except when it comes to Batman and Superman. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, look, I... You know what? All I'm thinking is, and I was going to say this is a spoiler. It's not really a spoiler. It's not a spoiler at all. I'm glad J.J. Abrams is leaving

because he set it up. This is the world. This is all the things you love about Star Wars because I liked the first Star Trek a lot for those reasons. He set it up really well and then he kind of stumbled in the next one. So I'm glad that they're bringing somebody else in to do...

Maybe we'll see something a little different in the next one. Maybe it will be a lot more serious. Yeah. Serious, different scenarios, different characters, whatever. I want to see something else. Yeah, okay, great. After this. I don't want The Empire Strikes Back next.

Do you know what I mean? Yeah, absolutely. And the next director might be like, well, I like the more serious elements of the previous movies. I'm going to make this one a lot more serious. Well, the director, you got like, he did Looper and like Break It Up. It's Rian Johnson. It's Rian Johnson, yeah.

And he is very, you know, he is kind of like that, you know. Yeah. I'm more concerned about Colin Tavora in the third one, to be honest. I think it'll be very much like this one. Sure. Yeah. Why not? Another issue I kind of have with it, it was very fast paced, which is good. third one to be honest but i think it'll be very much like this one sure yeah why not uh another

issue i kind of have with it it was very fast paced yeah which is good yep but you don't get a chance to breathe it's like we're on this planet it's like what planet is this we're on this spaceship whose spaceship is this where what who's that i was yeah look i definitely felt that there is no breathing room in this yeah it's there's like and it's like two hours and 20 minutes or 10 minutes or whatever there are some very brief breathing room in this yeah it's there's like and it's like two hours and 20 minutes or 10 minutes or whatever there are some very brief breathing moments in this yep but i i did feel like we've got 30 years to get up to speed yes there's a lot of people and there's no time we've got to introduce the new guys we're going to introduce the old reintroduce the old guys

yeah i feel and again i feel that maybe it's a case of you're damned if you do you're damned if you don't definitely i think they did slow this right down and be like, here's a world and let's explore the world. I think people will be like, what's Han been up to? What's Leia been up to? Where are the droids? What's going on? Stop wasting our time.

Exactly. Get to it. Like, for example, and this clip has been released, it's where Rey and Finn are running and she's like, we need to get to this, let's get to the ship. Oh, has that been released? Yeah. Should we save that?

No, just not where they get to. I Let's get to the ship. Oh, has that been released? Yeah. Should we save that? No, no, no. Just not where they get to. I'll cut off at that point. Okay, good. Where they're running towards the ship and he's like, we don't have a pilot. And she's like, I'm a pilot. Yeah. Like the exposition is done as it's not sitting down in a room and going, you know, I'm the

best pilot in the galaxy. Absolutely. It's like, I'm a pilot. Don't worry about it. Let's go. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like it's, that's good. Yeah. I'm good enough at being a pilot.'t worry about it let's go you know what I mean like it's

that's good I'm good enough at being a pilot this is probably going to be fine and I like that I like the I like the devil

may care attitude again especially that's come from New Hope they're just doing the best they can they're thinking on their feet

they've got to get this done so look yeah there could be some breathing room you know it could be a three-hour movie i guess you know what i mean if they didn't want yeah but i you know who wants that not me actually a lot of people yeah well you speak for all

star wars fans so do you want it no sorry sorry guys sorry star wars fans i don't really have anything else i think we should get into spoilers okay cool what would you call it the best movie ever or the worst movie ever definitely i had issues with it but it was fun yeah and it's not perfect but it's none of them are perfect none of them perfect it's pretty it's pretty great and you know what's more i want to see more of this yeah that's good that's good i mean a lot of people you know a lot of people say, oh, A New Hope has a perfect script in terms of how it unfolds and you get character development

and you get action and all the beats are in the right place. And a lot of people will be like, well, that's not great. Why don't you mix it up kind of thing, make it a little bit more unpredictable. So none of these are going to be perfect for everybody. No, that's it.

And look, I can understand why people would feel like it's not a complete movie in the way that it ends. It's not necessarily a cliffhanger. I felt like I was satisfied enough. I was like, enough things have happened in this where I've enjoyed myself. Good enough time to end. Yes.

You know what I mean? Good enough time to end. We can talk about it in spoilers. As the movie got further and further along, I started getting this sense of dread of like, Abrams is going to ruin this somehow. And he got to the end and he didn't. And I was very happy about that.

Great. Yeah. Good, good. So best movie ever. I thought it was heaps of fun. Re-established the universe. We got all the players back. They're doing great.

Yep. Love it. It's one of the best action movies of the year. re-establish the universe yeah we got all the players back they're doing great yep love it it's one of the best like action movies of the years it's like this and like mad max to me absolutely yeah yeah yeah yeah all right then all right fx is the veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret. The other, a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+.

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I'm going to work backwards. Okay, right at the end, when I said that I thought he was going to ruin it, here's what I thought may have happened. Here's a slim chance. Because the entire movie, they're like, let's find Luke Skywalker. Where is he?

We don't know. We've never seen this sector of the galaxy before. J.J. Abrams, Damian Lindelof, lost that whole bit. Love's a bit of a twist, a nonsensical twist. I thought they were gonna fly across the galaxy they get there it's a nice blue green planet they fly down it's prehistoric earth i genuinely thought as it's coming i'm like oh no you really thought that was gonna happen i'm like oh no this is this is the modern day twist on this this is gonna be they're bringing us into

this somehow don't do that. Please don't do it. And they didn't. Oh my God, that would have ruined literally everything. You know, there is that comic

where Indiana Jones crosses with Han Solo. Yes, because Indiana Jones finds the bones of Han Solo. And Chewbacca is the Sasquatch. Yeah, yeah. Great.

What were you going to say? The first four words in the opening crawl. The first four words in the opening crawl are, Luke Skywalker has vanished. And I was like, I kind of knew that. I gathered that.

But great start. Like, Revenge of the Sith is just like, it says war! That's the first word. And it's war! Phantom Menace is probably like, there's been a series of disputes over a series of different sectors. This is like, it's very character driven. It's not like the Jedi are doing this and they're in charge of the Senate.

And there's a, it's like Luke Skywalker is this princess layer sent this person. Yeah. What do you want? I mean, that's how it's kind of, that's how it's done. Yeah.

And it's, it's very engaging. Like you don't, I couldn't tell you what the prequel ones were. Yeah. Roughly. Something about separatists and whatever. Yeah, who cares?

Doesn't matter. They're gone forever. I could roughly tell you what the original... I couldn't do them word for word, but I roughly know what they are. Absolutely, yeah. So we're talking about spoilers. Yeah. Let's straight up spoilers.

Luke Skywalker reveal or we don't come back to that? I'll come back to that because there's nothing to it ultimately I wish there it'd be nice if he'd said something yes he said a lot with his face though he did say a lot with his face

he's like am I dead? am I in trouble? why am I on this cliff anyway yes but again we've talked about

it's a whole bunch of stuff from the previous movies it's been remixed Kylo Ren is Han Solo's kid Again, we've talked about it's a whole bunch of stuff from the previous movies. It's been remixed. Kylo Ren is Han Solo's kid and Princess Leia's kid. Yes. There's your reveal. There's a relative in there.

Yes. In the mix. That's kind of revealed. Midway. Or even straight up. Act one, really. Because when he lands on the planet and he goes up to Max von Sydow's character who's in it for like 30 seconds and he's like, I know who you are. I know who you come from, where you come from.

Yeah, exactly. And then to me, I'm like, well, that's confirmed exactly what I thought this guy was going to be. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. How much of this stuff did we get right and how much did we get wrong? Like the staff, I thought was going to be a thing. It turned out to be nothing. Just nothing, yeah. We don't really know where Ray's from, so it's kind of too early to say.

So we had a conversation with somebody in the theatre yes after the movie yes because we'd all been because we were like I was under the impression that Rey was going to be

Han Solo's daughter yes and then it turns out you know it's Kylo Ren his son I always just say Han Solo

and not Princess Leia as well but she's not really in it so much no not as much so you know you guys know what I'm talking about. I'm sure she had a hand in the birth.

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, she did some stuff. But, and so I'm like, oh, I guess, but we don't really know what Rey's parentage is. And we spoke to somebody in the theatre, and she was like, well, maybe he had another kid. Yeah. With somebody else.

And I'm like, oh, I'd never even thought about that. This lying, cheating smuggler with low moral character maybe went off and had another kid with somebody who isn't Princess Leia. That being said. Yeah, very unlikely. Well, yeah, I thought about it. Yes. Initially, I'm like, yeah, that could very much be,

but she's Force sensitive and he's not. Yeah, we could have met another jedi there is a lot of hidden jedis everybody's everybody's a little bit force and everybody's a little bit of a yeah a bloody hidden jedi let's talk about kylo ren right okay let's talk about it fantastic character yes acting the shit out of it yeah in the best way possible that's what hayden christiansen should have done yeah i'm not saying that's his fault, but that's kind of how they should have structured it. He was this kind of wild man, uncontrollably angry. Like, Vader's very measured,

but this guy's just cut and loose. Like, someone gives him bad news and he just shreds a computer console. Fun little twist, though, on the original, where Vader would just kill whoever he feels is responsible. Yeah. Kylo Ren... I like the fact that Kylo Ren was clearly conflicted. Like, he'll kill a whole bunch of people.

Yeah. But at the same time, he's like, well, this guy, like my subordinate here, it's not really his fault. Yeah. So I can't just kill him. Yeah, that's right. That would be me.

People will never tell me anything. Like, he's worked really hard, presumably, to get where he is. I can't... But I'll smash up all this equipment. Well, you've got to look at the intelligence of attic and skywalker to yeah that's true yeah he's he's a dumb idiot um yeah i i really like that he's he's got this rage and it's behind his eyes this whole time yeah absolutely and i don't know that to me makes him i don't know an infinitely more interesting character.

He's not just a great design like Darth Maul. Like you're really like invested in this character. And there's kind of a hint that maybe he'll come back kind of thing to the light side. That being said, fuck that guy. Oh boy. Now you felt actual physical rage in the cinema when he killed his father. Yes, I did. Look, I knew it was coming.

Yeah. I said it like four... They set the stage. Yep, that's right. Nobody's getting out of that. I said it like four years ago, they should do it. Yep. I'm not saying I'm not responsible for this.

I'm just saying I said it. Yep. I'm sure a lot of people said it. Speaking as from all fans of Star Wars wars i feel you did it though yeah and again i've said i i we i'm sorry we said this in the speculation episode last week yep everybody was like oh harrison ford's so chipper yeah he's so happy on this press tour he's he's loving it he's having a great time he's cracking wise he's he's palling around with all the reporters i'm like like, that's because Han Solo's dead in this. He never has to do another one of these.

No. And he's like, hey, Mark Hamill, Carrie Fisher, enjoy the next decade of doing these. I'm out. You're dumb pricks. Yeah. Absolutely. So as soon as I saw that gantry across that bottomless pit.

Nobody gets out of a gantry. That's right. With no railing. Yeah. I'm like nah that's this is it and the only other possible option is that han kills him yeah but hey that's definitely not going to happen but like we had darth maul killed in in phantom menace that's right yeah exactly they're not going to do that again like as soon as he you know what was a big cut like, as soon as he... You know what was a big... Like, when he did, like, puts the saber through him,

which is how we said it would happen. Well, we said it'd be slightly more dramatic. We said it was through the chest, up through the head vertically. We did elaborate on that. Yeah, we did. But we said it would be like... Just for funsies. Like, Qui-Gon Jinn style through the chest.

Yeah, exactly. Kind of nothing visceral, nothing kind of crazy. Because if the head... Like, if the hands come off first, that's cruel. Kind undignified if the head comes off that's funny yeah yeah that's what happened to dooku what did you think of yeah what did you think of uh harrison ford's death face all right i thought it was a bit much but i'm okay with it but again it's a fun sci-fi movie serial you know what seeing those two face to face yep structurally they look very similar yeah except once you cover once you cover adam driver's ears yeah yeah yeah his giant ears yeah yeah but

that was a really kind of powerful moment i loved the bit leading up where you find out kylo ren's real name yep where he calls out his name's ben yep great callback ben kenobi also in the expanded universe luke has a son called ben skywalker there you go kylo ren definitely comes from skywalker and solo combined yes it's got to right that's not a coincidence right yeah yeah uh yeah that whole sequence is amazing it was it was incredibly satisfying in a in the worst way possible oh sure you know what i mean like did you feel anything with that like Like... Yeah. Were you like, goddammit. I was like, yeah, like, this character's journey is over.

Yes. Yeah, and you're like... And if he hadn't done so well in this movie, if I hadn't been enjoying him so much, like, if he had a kind of Indiana Jones forward, where he's like, I'm grabbing a snake, I'm climbing out of a pit of sand or whatever. Yeah, yeah. Then I'd be like, whatever.

But he really gives it his all. He really gives it his all. And you love him again. Yeah, and you know what? I was going to, because we talked about this earlier, that the character is back. He's even got the flippy floppy blaster. Like he sort of holds his blaster like a real loosey goose

and just sort of flips it about and shoots. And it's all back. That's right, exactly, yeah. Yeah, so it was genuinely sad to see him go. I understand why they did it. It totally makes sense. The next movie will be Luke's movie. Yeah, but it also didn't feel like a cheap stunt

to get people enraged at Kylo Ren. No. You don't go, oh, he's killed our beloved character, now let's get him. I mean you you know i felt that oh well i guess yeah no but like i understand like not what i understand like if he you understand murdering a man but i feel like let's say he does come back to the light side yes which is straight up when he kills that guy in the opening kind of scene yeah i'm like i don't

think there's any redemption for this fella but then then again, Darth Vader, he got all the redemption. Boy, didn't he? But he didn't earn that. Didn't earn it at all. Yeah. Never earned it. Yeah. I did like how Chewbacca shot him straight away.

That was good. Yeah, exactly. Because you couldn't have him... Can't get away clean from that. Right. And you can't get away clean and you couldn't really have Chewbacca avenge him in the end. No, that's right. Kind of thing.

So you have to have him get a shot in then speaking of Chewbacca you said something interesting about when he after that event when he goes goes back to Princess Leia oh right he just um there's a there's a moment when the good guys all return and we've seen Leia, she knows he's dead, Han's dead. She's felt it in the Force that he's gone and all the good guys land at the Resistance base and Rey goes and gives her a hug. Yeah. This girl, she doesn't know. She doesn't know.

But just before that, Chewbacca just walks straight by. Yeah. Just walks straight by Leia like nothing. Like they haven't been friends for 30 years. Yeah, that's right. Exactly. You know? Just walks off into the forest, presumably.

And people have said, oh, he deals with grief in his own way. Certainly. Yeah. But I mean, he did. And he's free. I guess that's true, yeah. Of his life debt. So that's pretty great.

Yeah. Yeah. What else? What are we talking about here I don't even know do you think there's redemption for that guy there's probably

I'm dying but I get redemption I think it's redemption in death yeah I think he'll do something good and then because that's that's the classic Star Wars way to go

like throw Snoke into a bottomless pit oh let's talk about Snoke so let's talk about the two the big CGI animated characters so Maz Kanada so Maz that So let's talk about the two big CGI animated characters. Maz Kanata. So Maz, that's the better looking of the two CGI characters.

Again, because she's got human eyes. Is it the actor's eyes? Yes, it is. It's her actual eyes. I think so, yeah. Lupita Nyong'o. There we go. So she's the Yoda. She's the Yoda.

And I feel like Snoke, he's definitely Plagueis. So for anybody who doesn't know, Darth Plagueis is a character who's referred to but never seen in the Star Wars prequels. He is the master of Emperor Palpatine. Yes, that's right. Who Palpatine killed or thought he killed to become the Lord of the Sith or whatever. Okay, sure. Like the big gun. Yes, that's right. Who Palpatine killed or thought he killed to become the Lord of the Sith or whatever. Okay, sure. Like the big gun. Yes, that's right.

All right. But if you look at him- The big cheese, as they call him in the Sith world. That's right. It's Sith Apprentice, Sith Lord, the big cheese. You see his face like he's had some things happen to him. Yes, okay. Like he's kind of torn up.

You don't see where he is. I reckon he's some kind of happen to him. Yes, okay. Like he's kind of torn up. You don't see where he is. I reckon he's some kind of weird vacuum sealed chamber or something. But he's not, because he's clearly mobile and moving his hands. Yes. You're saying that that's straight up a whole, like a simulation, and he's in a bacta tank or something like that. Something, yeah. Look, I'm sure he could probably get around in a suit or something.

He's in a tomb. He's in a tomb. Yeah, something like that. Look, and'm sure he could probably get around in a suit or something. He's in a tomb. Yeah, something like that. And we'll probably see him mobile, but I think there'll be a twist on who he is. When I first saw him, I'm like, are they seriously making this guy that big? What are they going to fight him like King Kong at the end? Do you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah.

I'm like, that's way off. That's a bad decision. But then it turns out that hologram technology has gotten better and he's just a very he's just very yeah okay yeah as a as a ultimate villain he doesn't seem that scary no only because he hasn't done anything yet no yeah the emperor when you kind of first see him in the hologram and it's not actually ian mcdermott yeah that is now because they've changed it sure but it's like this weird creepy man in a hood and it's not actually Ian McDermott that is now because they've changed it but it's like this weird creepy

man in a hood like it's but this guy's kind of like what is this look at my face everyone look at it yeah I've heard that

Kylo Ren's they've mentioned that Kylo Ren's journey is going to like be like a mirror journey of Luke Skywalker which it is so it looks like

in the next one he's like come train with me Kylo Ren so like he's like the Yoda so maybe he's like, come train with me, Kylo Ren. So like, he's like the Yoda. So maybe he's a real little fella. Oh, sure.

Yeah. He's a really overcompensating. Yeah. He's probably not, but like, but I feel like that's, that's the way it's going to go. Like he gave it a red hot go,

Kylo Ren, but he's got a lot, got a lot of places that he needs to take this. He's got a lot of work to do, obviously, because as we see from the battle at the end, so the next one will be him training and and ray training and then rematch yeah was the idea in this that we uh we don't know who the the luke skywalker character is going to be like

if it's gonna be yeah it was a bit like that wasn't it yeah yeah yeah yeah because he's um finn's not sports sensitive at all okay sure but he's... Finn's not force sensitive at all. Okay, sure. But he can use the lightsaber because all stormtroopers are now trained in that, which is a nice little touch to be like, there are Jedi in the galaxy somewhere. Sure. We know there are or has been.

We better get ready for this. Let's get ready. Exactly. Should we learn to shoot? Nah. Weird hand-to-hand flippy things. Yeah. They're better than they've been.

Right, yeah. And it actually explained the origin, because Finn's origin, he was taken as a baby and then raised as a stormtrooper. Yes, and so at this point, so it seems to be the evolution of stormtroopers is originally they were all clones. There's certain templates.

There's a whole bunch that look the same. There's the groups, a whole bunch of people that look the same. They're all from New Zealand. Yeah. Episode four through six,'re all from New Zealand. Yeah. Episode four through six, they're like recruits. Yeah. And now they've decided that the best way to do it

is just take children from their homes. Like Jedi. Yeah. And then sort of train them from birth to be. Exactly. Yeah. Because at one point, Domino Gleeson's character does say, why don't we just get a clone army

yeah he does so clearly that technology is still oh no don't they say they say it to him and he's like my troops are second to none or whatever

exactly yeah yeah so that technology still exists which may come into play in later movies you know what I mean did you like the Darth Vader burnt helmet

he's got his ashes kind of sitting there and it's kind of this weird worshipping chamber yeah that's fun. When he took off his mask, did you expect him to be disfigured in some way? No, not at all. See, I did.

I was like, I thought that would have been a misdirect. I think I predicted that like three years ago. Yeah, you did. I mean, your guess, I think, was that he was trained by Luke Skywalker. Yes. Nailed it. Thank you. But that in rejecting Luke Skywalker, he battled Luke Skywalker.

Yes. And Skywalker just... Did some damage. Lightsaber'd his face off. Yeah. Like straight, just straight across. Sheared it off.

Like ear to ear, just like, you know. Just the whole front of his face. The whole front of his face. But I feel that... My impression, my feeling was

when she's like, you know, what's under the mask kind of thing, that at that moment, he wouldn't have had one. Sure, yeah. Like structurally in the sense of the timeline of the movie, if you had a scarred face, you'd be like, well, what's the backstory? We don't have time for this.

Okay, sure, yeah, that makes sense. And I think- He's just a sort of handsome man. Yeah, he's sort of handsome. A lot of people find him very handsome. He's handsome. I'm sure she was probably like, some of my friends would think you're very handsome.

Yeah, I'll set you up with one of my friends. Did you think there was a weird chemistry between them? Yes. But it could be like a brother-sister thing. Exactly. Or a cousin thing. That's what I'm saying. If Han's the...

They've done it before. They've done it before they've done it before exactly that's pretty um but i think yeah like the reason he wears the helmet is because he wants to be he's fighting the two sides yeah it's skywalker or vader and at the moment he's taking vader he wants to take on the properties of darth vader and that requires wearing a mask yes and also i'd imagine that he doesn't he's not really hiding who he is yeah like a lot of people seem to know but he doesn't like acknowledging it yes and also i'd imagine that he doesn't he's not really hiding who he is yeah like a lot of people seem to know but he doesn't like acknowledging it yes and also yeah that's right he doesn't max von satow side out you know side of house rules thank you um yeah he he knows and yeah and but also yeah like he's not as he he is menacing yeah but he's menacing. I'm sure a lot of people in that universe, they'd be like, oh, he's like a child.

Exactly. He looks very young. So you put the mask on and then he's menacing like Vader. Exactly. That's the menace he's trying to project. Yeah. And he is menacing. That voice modulator was a little distorted at times.

I had to kind of do the double ear take. Oh, sure. What was that? I never missed anything except for all the fucking ear take oh sure yeah what was that I never missed anything except for all the fucking wooing there was you know what

there was there was much more wooing at the second of course there was yeah because of the fan yeah stuff

but exactly but I for the most part everybody was like there was a lot of initial wooing but once everybody

settled in yeah if guys if you don't want to why am I saying this you've all seen it otherwise you wouldn't be listening to this yeah but I'm saying if you when you want to see it again wait like three weeks and then we're less wooing yeah just be regular people just be silence yeah or people

who are going to see it multiple times but yeah like there was for a media screen screening you know with yeah media folks who don't woo at anything i've never i've only been to a handful of them but they never clap yeah just a lot of just a lot of knobs sitting around yeah but rounds of applause at both knobs and kids obnoxious kids sure one in particular oh right in front of us yeah yeah that kid him and his leader of coke zero don't give a kid a leader of coke zero what's wrong with you god yeah boy get your shit together. He came up at the end and was like, look, I stole all these 3D glasses. I wanted to be like,

put them back. Put them back so they can be collected by the cinema staff and thrown in the bin. They should be. You know what? 3D wasn't in your face. It wasn't. Again, I saw a 3D session. I saw a 2D session. The 3D wasn't in your face either. It wasn't. Again, I saw a 3D session. I saw a 2D session.

The 3D was not painful to my eyes, which is great. Which means it's completely unnecessary. Exactly, yeah. Yeah. There's never a bit where it's like something comes right at you, which I appreciate. But again, don't need any of that. Yeah.

You know what I did enjoy? What's that? The reveal of the Falcon. We talked about it briefly before. We did, yep. Great. I didn't see it coming. Neither did I. They blindsided me. They're running along and they're like, should we get in that ship? What's that? The reveal of the Falcon. We talked about it briefly before. We did, yep. Great. I didn't see it coming. Neither did I.

Completely blindsided me. They're running along and they're like, should we get in that ship? It's closer or whatever. And she's like, it's garbage. It's garbage. Yep.

And then it turns out to be the bloody Falcon. Rounds of applause in the cinema. Yep. Why not? Why not? Yeah. I was happy to say it.

Yeah. Again, there's a lot of references in this movie to the old stuff. Yeah. There's a moment where Finn in this movie to the old stuff. There's a moment where Finn is going through the repair kits, or the medical kit in the Millennium Falcon. He pulls out the training ball from episode four. It's like a split second.

Yeah, and I'm like, in a way, that's probably too much. But in the sense of the narrative... Oh, and again, he leans on the table and the chessboard lights up or whatever. In the sense of the narrative, they didn't beatans on the table and the chessboard lights up or whatever in the in the sense of the narrative they didn't beat you over the head with references no there were there were a lot of there were some good ones there were yeah yeah a lot of it was like background stuff or like oh look it's Admiral Ackbar yeah I was look I didn't want him to say it's a trap yeah but I kind of wanted to say it's a trap and I was like is he gonna say magnitude but he didn't say magnitude. I was hanging out for it.

And again, in Hollywood, it's called hanging a lantern or lampshade hanging. It's where if something ridiculous or unlikely or the audience is going to, a thing is going to happen or there's something in the movie that the audience is going to take issue with, you just have somebody in the movie take issue with it yes and then have everybody like in the movie be like yeah but we're okay with it kind of thing yeah and then the red then the audience it's some sort of psychological trick where the audience are like

we're we're okay with it it's like being self-deprecating yeah and they had to bring it in because there's the super web the the the the first ought to have a super weapon that is the Death Star but it's real big yeah like they say that it's 17 times bigger yeah and they're like oh geez yeah and he's like yeah and so they have to do a bit of that yeah like it's like the Death Star and then

they're like no but it's real big and they're like oh okay and I love that and then immediately Hatsuo's like look it doesn't matter how big it is just blow it up like we blow up

everything yeah he's like we'll blow up the shield it'll have that just blow that up and then blow it's easy

I've done it so many times yeah speaking of that Starkiller base yes unnecessary didn't need it at all yeah

like they just kind of wanted to have like a Death Star kind of thing I guess yeah yeah yeah and also how what can it hit it's a platform

like I said I said this last week you were like is it mobile I don't think it is I think it's just okay here's the thing though here's the thing

because it absorbs energy it absorbs the sun so how many suns were there exactly exactly how does it yeah does it have two goes because there how many suns were there exactly? Exactly. Does it have two goes?

Because there were two suns in there. Maybe. Exactly. It's never really explained. I'm fine with it though because it's a one shot. I'm fine with it because it blew up the planet with all the politics on it. Yeah, good. They didn't mention it by name.

That had to have been Coruscant. You see it for 10 seconds. They look up and go, oh, we're all going to die gonna die and it's also it's weirdly established in this movie there's the resistance there's the new order first order and then there's also the government yeah the republic yeah but they call it the republic and they call it the new republic yeah and and then there but that was really a way of saying we're not doing any of that ever again look we're blowing up all the planet

all the senators are on it all the senators all the votes don't worry about it there's going to be no more voting it's just going to be

punching Jar Jar Binks was probably on that planet absolutely he was yeah but I'm yeah

yeah yeah but so yeah we need we need the super weapon because that stuff but again the expanded universe has just been super weapons

the sun crusher the dark saber all this other stuff it's just this it's fine yeah it's fine do you reckon we'll get another one uh no although no i think it's gonna be a personal journey i think it'd be personal journey and like jedi artifacts yeah they mentioned a jedi temple yeah i in fact i think at this point we've we know enough about the star wars universe i think it'd be personal journey and like jedi artifacts yeah like jedi they mentioned a jedi temple yeah i in fact i think at this point we've we know enough about the star wars universe i think if there is another super weapon it'll be dealt with in a like in the b plot okay yeah like we'll have poe like this movie oh no what not really they did it but i think it'll just be like okay here's ray and finn they've got to deal with this they've got to deal with kylo ren they've got to you know take this personal've got to deal with Kylo Ren. They've got to, you know,

take this personal story in this direction. And then I think Poe Dameron will be like, they'll be like, and there's another Death Star. And Poe Dameron will be like, I've got this. I'll do the thing I did. I'll do the thing.

And then it'll cut to him and he's like, yep, blowing it up. Cool. Like it's kind of like, they've done this so often. It's like, well, we'll just blow it up again. So apparently you can fly in hyperspace and get through a shield. That's a new thing.

So they can all do that, I guess. Yeah, sure. So they didn't really need to disable the shield is what I'm saying. Oh, yeah. Unless the shield was around that thing there to shoot multiple times. Do you mean in Return of the Jedi? Well, they probably didn't know that then or it was different technology or whatever. But I'm saying in this one, all the X-Wings could have got under that shield.

Maybe. Or not. Yeah. Who's to say don't think about it well you're the you speak for everybody oh yeah don't think about it guys

don't think about it okay here's the thing that let's talk about the Boba Fett of the film which one say again Captain Phasma Captain Phasma who does nothing

the most useless character yeah because looks great prior to this yeah they said okay we've got

Captain Phasma here um we're gonna make her a woman yep because it doesn't matter you know it's just a character yep

then they made her useless because that yeah that seems mean I hope she'll come back though yeah and do some stuff yeah

but maybe that's the nod to Boba Fett and how useless he is yeah maybe yeah because great design men and women can both be useless that's exactly Men and women can both be useless.

That's exactly... Men and women can both have style over substance and have a cool jet pack and a cape, but then do nothing at all ever. You know what I... I really was a bit confused on? Yep. Rey's kind of use of the Force.

Oh, sure. That came out of nowhere. Like, she went from somebody who'd never done any of that yep to doing all of it to mind tricking a guy yep to to picking up that lightsaber from like 20 feet away yeah which luke i mean bear in mind he'd been battered around the head by a snow monster yeah but like the force seems to be really ramped up in this one yeah maybe it's because they're talking about the Force Awakens. Maybe it's a thing that grows stronger over time.

I don't know. I feel that's it as well. And he can stop a blaster bolt in midair. That was great. Yeah, I enjoyed that a lot. That was very good, yeah. And also, I think he's been off on his own for a long time, and he's just trying whatever.

Yeah, exactly. Because, again, to a lot of people, all these stories are legends. There's no specifics to them. He doesn't know what Darth Vader can and cannot do. He's just looking into his mind and going, what can I do? Yeah. He's just snorting that ash and giving it a go. Yeah, just giving it a bloody red hot go.

Here's a question for you. Why do you think R2-D2 was inactive, then he was active again? I don't know. That was whenever they saw... Because it would have been really convenient if he were active prior to this. Exactly.

He was sad. He was so... Maybe he was waiting for someone. I have a theory for this. Here's me gaining my no prize for this Marvel style. here's me gaining my no prize sure for this Marvel style that

R2-D2 Luke Skywalker had a premonition yeah about somebody bringing the balance of the force okay who's to say but we know it's Rey yes

and we don't know what's there's going to be a lot of slaughter before that happens but R2-D2 has been told not to activate until a certain thing turns up. Until she's back, until she's in the picture. Until the person shows up with a lightsaber. Yeah.

Pretty much, yeah. I feel that's, I think we'll, if that's a note, they might completely gloss over it. Sure. But I think if Abrams has left any notes for the next director, I think one of them will be explained that. More twists. Smoke monsters. I think it's going to be, yes, because we see the flashback

where Luke puts the robot hand on R2-D2. He's clearly telling him something. We don't know what it is I think he's saying shut down until shut down stay out of trouble stay out of trouble don't let anybody get the information

until Rey is around and then she can find me and that's going to be that's going to be my what do you call it you know that thing redemption force awakens

yeah my force awakens it's going to be my Force Awakens. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. When he turned up, when you see him at the end, I guess we've talked about Luke, he really, there was a lot going on in his face. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was kind of sadness, regrets.

I feel he was kind of like, I feel he, you see, that's the thing. I feel he's kind of like- Heavy heart. This is why, and again, we're reading a lot into this. Sure. But I think this works. I think he was saying, this is what I again we're reading a lot into this sure but i think i think this works i think he's he was saying this is what i've planned for yes i want somebody to be here but i wish it

wasn't happening yeah that's yep exactly like i read that she's got the lightsaber that's mine this is all part of my plan yeah god damn it yeah and i i wish i wish everything had solved itself already i'm a real bloody ben kenobi yeah because he's he's done the ben kenobi yeah he's trained somebody who then turned and and whatever i mean he's done it better sure in the sense that he hasn't just changed his first name and just stayed on the planet 30 feet from him from his son or whatever yeah good point no i were you satisfied with the amount of luke yes i wanted obviously i wanted to see more yep but we will get that yeah a lot of people are like why didn't he say anything i think no matter what he said people would have been disappointed yes if he was like the force has awakened also I feel

yeah oh yeah see that's the thing it's ambiguous closing lines inevitably disappoint yes you can read into this

whether it be a good movie or a fantastic four where they're like huh what should we call ourselves I don't know but everything's been pretty fantastic

and then you're like you're the thing that nobody wanted yeah yeah why would you say that? You didn't even know me that well. Yeah. Yeah. So I think no matter what,

also, I think that Mark Hamill probably showed up after filming to collect his check. Yeah. And they're like, oh, technically, since you didn't say anything, you're just an extra. So we give you $15 an hour. That's right.

He's like, wait a second. You know what? He looks good as well. Yep. I like the look. And if you saw him at the premiere, he looks fit. Yeah. Like fitter than he's been in a long time.

Do you think there's going to be some Luke Skywalker action sequences? Absolutely. You know what? You know, the other moment where I thought there was going to be a Luke Skywalker moment, when you see the lightsaber kind of jiggle in the snow and it snaps out and it goes to Rey, I thought that was going to be Luke. I was so sure. And then that again comes back to,

how can she do any of this? No, I'm fine with that. She didn't even know the Force existed. Yeah, no, I'm still okay with it. Fair enough. I feel that, I don't know, maybe it's the connection between Kylo and Rey. Yeah.

I think that when he sort of goes into her brain to pull out the information, like he unlocks something inadvertently. Like flip the switch. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, that's fair enough. And she's like,

oh, I can feel, again, because when she talks, is it Maz? Yeah. Is that the character's name? I think she, you know,

she says everything, it flows through you. It's, you know, it's the force. Like a pea. She's heard, yeah,

she's heard stories about the Force. Yeah. And then there's moments where you see her focus. There's a moment in the torture chair where you see her focus and there's this moment of clarity. Yeah. And I think that she's just like, oh, I know I can do this. Yes, okay.

And again, I don't think it was any kind of... I don't think it was like a game-breaking solution. No, no. I'm just a little bit... You thought it was too fast? Too fast or kind of a little bit confusing, I guess. Yeah, but also I do feel like at the end, the final battle between her and Kylo,

he has been quite severely injured. Yes, he has, yeah. So, and she's feeling the Force flow through her. She's got some sort of connection with, like, Luke's lightsaber has held on to something. Yes. It's held on to some of his... Juice?

Yeah, some of his Luke juice. And I think that's working in combination. She's got some rage for the death of Han Solo. She's got the Force going for her. She's got a bit of skill as a skillful hand combatant, and Kylo is on his way out anyway, probably. Yeah, fair enough. What did you think of that last lightsaber battle?

We can talk about it a bit. Real good, real nice. Yes, like we said, chopping wood, but I liked the John Boyega, him fight. Yeah. That was really intense. Like really kind of, you know, that that's not going to go well. Right.

As kind of seen in the trailer, as we jacket speculated. Now jacket confirmation. Yeah, absolutely. We did it finally. And, you know, I enjoyed that battle with her. You know what? I liked that she's a girl as well. I'm sure a lot of people will take issue with that.

Well, people have taken issue with every aspect of this it's not the same as i liked and i'm a terrible human being so here's no yeah why not why can't she be a girl yeah like it could you know what and that character could have been any gender yeah any of the several genders available so you know whatever. It's fine. Yeah, it was a bit kind of like, and there's an earthquake and we're separated. Yeah. Like, yeah, okay, whatever. It's good enough, I guess.

Yeah. Did you like how he was punching his side? It's pretty good, yeah. What's he doing? Again, a lot of those elements could have been ridiculous. Yeah. And I'm glad they weren't. Adam Driver's really good in this.

He's going to be answering to this for the rest of his life, how he killed Han Solo. Oh, that's true, because there are people who don't understand the difference between reality and movies. They're going to be so mad at him. Exactly. It's the same thing with Lando. Billy Dee Williams had to deal with kids being like,

why did you betray Han Solo? And he's like, well, technically I didn't. I helped him at the end, didn't I? The boy initially couldn't you have come up with a different plan look kid

I was thinking about feet yeah it's what we do in this universe you think on your feet that's it I'm trying to think

if there's anything else do you got any favourite moments or line oh we were going to talk about the humour yes

if we can spoil some of the humour. Yeah, that initial moment, like a couple of minutes in, when Kylo captures Poe Dameron, and there's a tense standoff for a second, and Dameron's like, are you going to talk or am I going to talk? Like, I don't know. Are you wearing a mask?

I don't know. And I like that, again, we're taking elements from all the classic characters where we've just thrown them about willy-nilly he's got some han solo swagger yes han solo wouldn't have has never done that specifically no but why not you could see that he would yeah and again it's very much like that when he talks into the intercom or he's like everything's fine here what's going on you know and again it's it's a case of like oh you've got a you've like, oh, you've got a rebellious guy

and you've got a bloody... They're just character archetypes. Yes. Star Wars didn't invent them. No. They popularized them. They perfected them, certainly. Oh, there you go.

But yeah, I think, again, at that five-minute mark, it might lose a lot of people didn't lose me but I'm no I was like great I'm on board but I think again it might be a case of that people have built up this epic in their minds and at this point there is no room for jokes

and again so we've got Chewie is very funny in this he's got a little he gets injured and she's like you're very brave and there's the moment in this. Yes. He's got a little... He gets injured and she's like, you're very brave. And he's like... And there's the moment in the thing where there's a moment when the death squads show up to kill them all. Yeah.

And Han's like, I'm going to talk my way out of this like I do every time. And Chewie's like... And he's like, I do! I bloody do every time! Well, he's alive, isn't he? Yeah, that's true. At that point.

Yeah. And you know what was interesting? That character of's alive, isn't he? Yeah, that's true. At that point. Yeah. Yeah. And you know what was interesting? That character of Han Solo, getting back to when he died, he'd grown so much that his compassion was his undoing. Yeah. Like 30 years ago, that wouldn't have happened. No.

For what? He didn't have a kid. Yeah. So he wouldn't have faced a baby on a gantry. Yeah, that'd be weird. Yeah. And he probably would have won if he did. Yeah.

But I thought, what do you think of that weird force flashback it had like the best pin she gets thrown into that tunnel that's another thing the force can do now i guess well that's uh that's an element of her that's a yoda and that's a luke skywalker and dagobah yeah Yeah, that's right. Or Anakin Skywalker seeing his wife die in a dream. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, I'd like to find out that backstory.

We'll get that eventually, but... To be honest, in the middle, before the Han Solo death happened, I was a bit kind of like, yeah, come on. Something else happened. It's all very quippy and fun and whatever, but can a thing happen? It nearly... It kind of like... It could have lost lost me at that point what kind of thing would you have wanted

to happen like the thing that happened oh yeah that happened like i was very satisfied with the conclusion i liked the han solo death i liked the fight i liked the luke skywalker reveal yeah so the things that happened subsequent to that i'm like great back on board awesome I think my favourite line is where they land on the planet to destroy the shield and Han Solo's like okay where do we go

whatever and he's like I'm just a sanitation guy I guess we'll just use the force and Han Solo's like that's not how the force works like what are you doing

I enjoyed that a lot and also where they blow up Coruscant that was also that also pretty awesome. That's a little favourite. Got some... Oh! They said jacket a lot. A lot of jacket stuff.

Oh yeah, sure. In general. Steals a jacket. That's my jacket. That's a new jacket hand solo. Oh, right. There's a lot of that, right? Yeah, uh-huh, sure.

Weird. Got a question here about speculation from Joel Dusha from the Sandspans podcast. I'm aware of him. Plumbing the Death Star and various others. Do you think Rey and Kylo will be revealed to be siblings in The Force Awakens 2? Han and Rey have weird chemistry. I also hate that I'm speculating about a movie less than 12 hours after seeing that one.

God damn it. Yeah. That's what it's all about. That's good. Speculation. Hooks your bloody in, mate. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, brother and's good speculation your bloody inmate yeah that's right yeah brother and sister i think they're half brother and sister i think i don't think

she's luke's kid i think that's too obvious yeah you see a kind of a flashback to where she's left on the planet by somebody yeah presumably her mother yeah i guess i think her parents might be jedi okay some kind of something. They have to be somebody important, right? This is a universe where everybody has a destiny. There you go, yeah. So they have to be. Look, I think, again, I'm sort of against everybody having a destiny, but I think if they're going to give people a destiny and they're going to,

again, like I said, I think it's going to be she is the, because they have that, it's not like a romantic chemistry, but it's the, you know but she's got these engineer skills, she's got these repair skills. They're finishing each other's sentences. They know what's going on. I feel that she is... She's his daughter from another relationship

that he doesn't know about. Okay. Yeah. And she's force sensitive. Because this is... You don't have to be from a general lineage. You're right, you don't. You don't. Maz is force sensitive because this you don't have to be from a Jedi lineage you're right

Maz is force sensitive to some degree right yeah and she's not a Jedi what I liked about yeah I liked that how you can just have a knowledge of it

and kind of feel it I guess but not you don't have to be bloody doing flips yeah exactly so I think he's met

another force sensitive woman yep Mara Jade he's taken off ooh wow they might do they might do a variation on Mara Jade Force-sensitive woman. Yep. Mary J. He's taken off. Ooh. Wow. They might do a variation on Mary J.

Like Kylo Ren is a variation on Jason Solo and Ben Skywalker. It's like a combination of those kind of characters. Yeah, I think it's going to be the reveal is there. All right. And Snookus Plagueis. Yeah, sure. You know what? Like I said, I'm glad JJ's not doing the next one uh-huh this is good enough yep let's do something else right you know you've lined it up the world you're not

Mr. Magoo Boba Fett movie comedy of errors he's real bad at everything but he's got a little droid that follows him around and it fixes everything and then like and it's a it's the bloody it's you know it's the bloody, you know, it's in the past O'Reilly's like, you've done it again, Boba Fett. And he's like, I sure have. I'm really good. And then it's two little droids or whatever.

Yeah, yeah. And they're like, boop, boop, boop, boop. We did it again. Like the portal robots. Yeah. Love it. They could get Steven Merchant as one. They could. Yeah.

Good stuff. Yeah, so, you know, we don't even have that long to wait. Love it. They could get Steven Merchant as one. They could. Yeah. Good stuff. Yeah. So, you know, we don't even have that long to wait. We've got a year till the Death Star blowing up one, the Death Star plane one, Rogue One. Yep. And it's only May of a year and a half away or whatever till the next sequel.

Because this was pushed back. This was supposed to be May. Right. And they pushed it back to December. Wow. Which is great because now we've got even less time to wait. That's so good. So, yeah. Bloody bring it on. Look, it's not perfect. was supposed to be May and they pushed it back to December which is great because now we've got even less time to wait so yeah bloody bring it on

look it's not perfect I definitely had issues with it but I'm happy the universe is back it's a good enough start I'm going to say it's an excellent start

yep sure I'd agree with that sure it's good enough look I have to see it again though I've only seen it once so here's to The Force Awakens

raising my expectations so the next one will probably be not as good thanks guys thanks jj you did it yeah all right we should have said also there's nothing after the credits oh yeah we should have put that it doesn't matter it's too late everybody's gonna stay no matter what that's right maybe they'll put in a force uh you went because you went we went to the press screening but i'm saying maybe i'll put one in later like maybe weeks i'd that would be a good strategy to be like a month in be like hey by the way we put an extra thing in the print so here it is yeah we're not putting it on what if they didn't put it on the internet they would get on the internet i know wouldn't matter but

there'd be that two hour window before somebody cams it. No, I mean it would be leaked before. Oh, sure, yeah. Before it even got to the cinema. Yeah, that's right. Because I would steal it. Yeah. Rogue One style.

Oh. However they do that. Yeah. All right. Do you think they're going to have any, just a straight-up expanded universe character and just throw it in there and be like... That's a very good question. What if they put in Kyle Katarn?

I love that guy. Maybe not the Jedi version, but maybe just like a... Is Han What if they put in Kyle Katarn? I love that guy. Maybe not the Jedi version, but maybe just like a, is Han Solo. I mean, Kyle Katarn. Yeah. He's a Jedi.

Yeah. Maybe. I don't know. I think if they're going to do anybody, I think they'll probably do Thrawn. Yeah. Okay. I think more,

more likely whoever they put in will be an amalgamation of different characters. Like your Kylo Ren. That's what I, that's what I think. Yeah. There'll be a Thrawn-esque character or a Kyle Katarn-esque character if they end up going with those.

Which I guess we have in Poe Dameron. Yeah. He's the new Han Solo, right? He is the new Han Solo. And he could definitely do it. He wasn't in this a hell of a lot, but he proved what he was. Oh, and again, we're saying the characters were well-developed enough that when stuff happens to them, you can't...

Yeah, yeah, that's right. But, like, when they, you know, when Finn and Poe Dameron, they both find out they're still alive. Yeah. Like, they have a moment. Yeah. Like, we did it. Yeah, it's crazy, right? And I'm like, this is good.

Yeah. Like, I think... It's not like Anakin. Yeah, and look, they barely... They shared a minute of screen time. Yeah. And then they meet again. And we get three movies of Anakin and Obi-Wan.

And it's just like, remember that time we had that pretty good adventure? You got me out of this one. But that one doesn't count. Yeah. Shut up! Show, don't tell. Well played. Exactly.

Yes. Because they went through a thing. And then they were happy that they both got out of that thing. Yeah. They did it. they did it you did it all right you know what's time for what's time for it's time for the segment where we talk about what we've been reading and what we're gonna read we should get a name for that maybe next week okay theme song i'm doing the thing

what are we reading today? What are you reading? I hope it's Star Wars related. It's not Star Wars related. Well, I sent you several emails about it. You did not. I haven't had time to watch anything this week. Except for Star Wars twice.

Yeah, Star Wars twice and just panicking about Star Wars. But I got ready to go the first episode of Ash vs. Evil Dead. Oh, good. Because in the last few weeks I've asked people to message in, get me on Twitter, add Wikipedia Brown, just your A-plus show, your favourite show, you watch it every week. Yep. It's the best and a lot of people have said Ash vs. Evil Dead is very good.

It's on Starz. They've produced a lot of great content. I like Party Down. A lot of good Star a lot of great content. I like Party Down. A lot of good Starz. Different genre slightly. I love Party Down. But yeah, I really like the vast majority of what Starz put out. Did they do the...

What is it? I won't know the answer to this. Oh, never mind. Not Hercules. Spartacus. They did do Spartacus. And yeah, I'm a huge fan of Bruce Campbell. I'm looking forward to this a lot.

Oh, Brucey C. Yeah. That's what I call him. Great. I call him the best part about Burn Notice. But the second best part, the best part about Burn Notice is the weird monologues that the main character...

The really specific monologues. When you're a... When you're portraying a Columbia drug cartel... And you're a former CIA operator. And you've only got $40 to your name well the best thing to do is and your van doesn't

have a spare tyre well what you have to do is you have to go to the hardware store and you buy this and this and this and you put them together and then

you blow up a thing and then yeah it's real specific also there's always a sniper there is always a sniper make sure you have a sniper

just have a sniper ready it's probably your feisty ex-girlfriend or ex-wife or your mother your feisty mother she's never or ex-wife. Or your mother. Or your feisty mother. She's never been the sniper. Yeah.

I bet she has. I enjoy that show. I've not watched it in a really long time. No, I've seen like four episodes, but every time I'm like, this is okay. It was fun. Yeah. It was, yeah. He's good in Fargo, actually.

Bird Notice Man is in Fargo. As is Bruce Campbell. What's his name? The president who was the actor. President Fargo. Great. Fargo Reagan oh very good yeah yeah I'm a huge fan of uh Bruce Campbell I'm glad he's in things doing stuff he's great yeah great what are you reading well there's a um there's a five or six part uh Star Wars comic that runs over different kind of all the different Star Wars comics combining it's called Vader Down okay and

it's about the Rebel Alliance it's about three three or four in, I can't remember, have managed to crash Vader's ship into a planet where they're based. And it's the might of the Rebel Alliance against Vader. Right. And he's just wrecking shop. It's great. That sounds great. That does sound great.

Okay. So definitely check it out. Because he is is we don't want him like he's the bad guy we know he's going to get out of this yes have a bit of fun have a bit of fun with it yeah yeah like there's a bit where he pulls like the he activates everything they they kind of corner him and there's and there's like 50 of them and he just activates their thermal detonators and he just walks away you You know what I mean? Like... Is it... Do... Are there...

Are the Rebellion characters likeable or do we not really get a sense of it? No, but they're just mostly cannon fodder. It's like Luke, Leia, whatever and then it's like

cannon fodder. Okay, sure, right. Are you more or less excited for a Han Solo solo movie? It's... Is it young Han Solo? Yeah. Are they going to get

Liam Hemsworth? I don't know. Oh, I don't know. I kind of want to see, like, five years before Harrison Ford won now, if he did that again, if he kept that enthusiasm. Oh, yeah, sure. So, like, the new smuggler years. Yeah.

They're never getting back, Sean. It'd be like young, old Indiana Harrison Ford. Yeah. They could call it the Adventures of Young, Old Han Solo. Han Solo, yeah. The Adventures, they should call it, they should release the title of it now, and it's called The Adventures of Han Solo Before He Dies in The Force Awakens.

Great. And it's the poster, because, you know, they the the big the big poster with all the characters yeah right this and they're all in a collage kind of thing right and it's a it's a photo it's the it's the the shot of him being stabbed through the chest and doing han solo death face but then like it's it's live han solo from a few years ago he's given the double thumbs up and he's like i've got a few good years left in me kind of thing and then it's just

these fun adventures maybe that's in a like a thought balloon yeah it's in a thought balloon yeah great love it so yeah

watch or read those things if you want sounds good I'm gonna grab it good stuff how are we doing with letters themes we've got a whole bunch

people are really kicking off I think for our very special Christmas episode I'll announce a winner and they will get a very special Christmas episode, I'll announce a winner. And they will get a very special Christmas gift of their own. A Christmas pudding that we prepared ourselves.

And then we wrap it in one of our t-shirts and we send it to them. And we throw it at you. Yeah. From a speeding bus. Great. We've got a lot to organise. Yeah. Christmas pudding.

Got to get my grandma's old recipe for the christmas pud we're gonna need a t-shirt get the t-shirt correct size do you have a like a heavy vehicles license i'll get one okay because whatever should be driving yeah that's true so if you drive i've got a pretty good throwing arm yeah great yeah i'm no good with it can we have a few backups like backup puddings oh that's true we'll have yeah it's actually a pretty good throwing arm. Yeah, great. Yeah, I'm no good with it. Can we have a few backups, like backup puddings? Oh, that's true. We'll have to. Yeah, that's actually a really good point because we'll probably miss.

Should we do an alternate T-shirt for each one? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, okay. Sure. Okay, great. Yeah. And if you could just stand real still, that'd be great. That'd be good too, yeah.

All right. Now we'll get you on the way to work. Should we cover the Christmas pudding brandy and set it alight? Definitely. Okay, good. How about we hit you with a burning Christmas puddle full of brandy and then we put you out with a T-shirt? Anyway, good luck to our winner.

Yeah. Anyway, I'm sorting through those. They're all sounding pretty good. So if you'd like to send a definitive theme for us, here's the deal because we don't currently have a letters theme. Yes. Because James refuses to put one in.

I refuse! So if you want to make one, it has to be quite short, like as short as our opening theme or what we're in theme. Why don't we say

there can be the letters theme for the next year and we change it up every year. Very nice. Yeah. That also assumes

we're going to not crash and burn. Oh yeah. we'll be we'll be arrested for wanton christmas pudding assaults but we'll be fine we've got good lawyers exactly um yeah that'd be great so if you want to record one uh put it on youtube maybe uh give the title uh weekly planet definitive letters theme or something like that uh i'll find it's uh tweet it at me at wikipedia brown and then i'm to go through them all and I'll pick a winner next week. And we'll send you a t-shirt.

Yep. Yeah. We'll send you a t-shirt. Oh, yeah. Get ready for it. Hope you got insurance. Okay. So all these ones are from Twitter.

Didn't have a lot of time today. It's very hot. If you hashtag Weekly Planet Pod and shoot a question our way, it might get read out we've got a lot if you'd like to maybe bake it inside some sort of

some sort of seasonal festive dessert good maybe like like a fortune cookie and then hurl it at us we'll take anything we'll take a pumpkin pie

we'll take whatever whatever means necessary as long as you've hashtag weekly planet pod on it somewhere absolutely yeah this is from John Eisenman.

Eisenman, sorry. Eisenman. Yep. Do you think lightsaber could cut through Superman? These are all Star Wars related. No. What about this? Have you seen that?

Batman. I'm sorry. Batman versus Darth Vader. Yeah. What do you think? It's pretty good. I think it's good. Good production fail.

I stopped watching it. Yeah. Guess where it's good good production I stopped watching it yeah guess where I stopped watching it you stopped watching it yeah did you really the bit where he kills

Batman is that what happens yes I stopped the lightsaber fight yeah as soon as Batman pulls out

the lightsaber I'm like no where'd he get that where'd he exactly yeah and he's not a sword guy no he's not

what are you doing he'll bloody take a shirtless sword fight with a racial girl I know he will not a sword guy no he's not he's fine you bloody take a shirtless sword fight with racial but not this version and he disabled darth vader's yeah that was good see i think that was excellent because you're supposed to go okay they've both got different skill sets why up until that point up until that point in that thing yeah vader uses the force he nearly gets the drop on uh you know on batman you know he takes the grappling gun or whatever it is batman activates the taser and the grappling gun and then they both get a sense of who the other is yes and then there's like a cool fight sequence i'm like they've nailed the

characterization of this i'm okay with his dumb t fury style mashup in real life. I like T Fury, but sometimes it's just dumb mashups. What if Doctor Who was Star Trek? And then. You know what? What if he wasn't? What if they just existed separately? Yeah. Not everything's a crossover.

But then, and I'm like, okay, this is working. And then lightsaber and then Batman pulls out. I'm like, oh, Batman, I'll find a way to fight against. But then he pulls out his own lightsaber. I'm like, no. Great, I'll find a way to fight against. But then he pulls out his own lightsaber. I'm like, no. Great. You know what would have been good? You're right.

It would have worked better if Vader was just chopping wood at him and Batman's just punching him. That's satisfying, right? They did a Deadpool-Spider-Man one this week. Not Deadpool-Spider-Man. Spider-Man. Deadpool. No, it wasn't Deadpool.

It was Spider-Man like Darth Maul. Spider-Man-Darth Maul. It's pretty good, except the Spider-Man like... Darth Maul. Spider-Man Darth Maul. Huh. It's pretty good, except the Spider-Man is really irritating. You know there's a fine line there. There is, yeah. He's either a fun-loving guy with some cool quips... Or a sad sack.

Yeah, or the most irritating man in the world. Okay, I'll look at that. Okay, how about this? Yes. Did we ever do Batman vs. Darth Vader? No. Is it versus? We'll do it next time. Okay, great. Someone remind us. Please we ever do Batman versus Darth Vader? No. Is it versus? We'll do it next time.

Okay, great. Someone remind us. Please do. We do versus episodes. Not now, though. People who don't know. Okay, what about this? Every lightsaber has a crystal.

What if that crystal is a piece of kryptonite? Yeah, that would work. Thank you. Because you can adapt. Kryptonite's one of those magic comic materials that can adapt to anything. Like a lightsaber. Yeah, you can make a kryptonite lazy. You can make a kryptonite poison gas. You can make a kryptonite's one of those magic comic materials you can adapt to anything you can make a lightsaber yeah you can make a kryptonite lazy you can make a kryptonite poison gas you can make a kryptonite whatever so like kryptonite lightsaber that'd work yeah what if kryptonite

was a lightsaber what a mash-up yeah make the t-shirt guys let's make it happen all right this is from patrick t carol i did all the analysis and speculation lessen your experience for the force awakens i find forming expectations like that has me thinking too much, wondering when or if something will happen. That's why I tend to avoid chunks of your videos and the podcast. Good. Good advice. Good advice for life generally.

Just avoid the podcast if you can. By now it's too late. Avoid the next one. Definitely. I understand why absolutely people would not. I speculate in my head. Yep. I can't stop myself from doing that.

I see a thing and I remember that thing. Yep. I'm not really good at anything, but I'm okay at that, I guess. So it's just something I automatically do. And then I'm like, well, if I can do this, then I guess I'll just put them in a video. Yeah. So regardless of us talking about it, it's still conversations I have with other people or things I have in my head. So for me, it's not really an option.

Unless I go in blind, which I don't really do. To me, all the speculation that happened around this did not ruin this movie for me. But I think that is sheer chance. did not ruin this movie for me. No. But I think that is sheer chance. I think that is pure luck that something didn't drop in at the last second and just make me...

Like, for me, it's sheer luck that somebody didn't go, oh, look at this element in this trailer. That obviously means this and this is how it's going to end. Yeah. And that would have ruined it, I think. Yeah, sure.

One more crucial piece of information probably would have made this whole house of cards just fall to end. Yeah. And that would have ruined it, I think. Yeah, sure. One more crucial piece of information probably would have made this whole house of cards just fall to pieces. Sealed the deal. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. I mean, we knew Han Solo was going to die. We knew all the bits and pieces.

We guessed. We guessed, yeah. But I think, I don't mind some healthy speculation, but again, it's a very fine line of what the studio is going to release in terms of uh you know trailers and cast interviews and stuff like that and i think they they did this very well i don't know if they're going to be able to do it again yeah the speculation is already ramping up mason yes get ready for next week's episode we certainly did it star wars speculation episode eight episode yeah

no we're not doing that now okay's not okay last hashtag weekly planet pod twitter thing if Star Wars was real and you had to join in how do you think you'd fare and what side would you be on cheers big ears he's talking to Adam Driver there

oh shit got him got him I know you've got your zombie apocalypse character which you've well thought of so if there were an actual zombie apocalypse

I know for a fact I would be the guy we're all running for the car. I get to the car first because I'm quite quick on my feet. I lock all the doors. I go to start. And everybody's like, no, let us in the car. And I'm like, it's every man for himself.

And then I try and I'm starting the car and it's not quite starting yet. And then it turns out there's a zombie in the backseat and it kills me. What's the equivalent of that in the Star Wars universe? See, I don't think, I don't know if I'd be that guy in the back seat and it kills me what's the equivalent of that in the star wars universe see i don't think i don't know if i'd be that guy in the star wars universe because you've got more options in the star wars sure i've thought about this yes i would be the guy i'd be a pilot not the best pilot i'd barely i'd be like you're the guy who used to fuel the ships but a lot of people have died yeah you know how to do this right and i'll be like yes yeah okay and then we'd fly into whatever we're attacking and i'd go in too quick and they'd be like you're going in too hot and i'd be like ah and i'd smash into the side of whatever it was

and i'd be the first guy out nice that's what i would make my decision i would would be Luke Skywalker. No take backs. Next question. Or is that the last question? The last question. Okay, good. Some would say I can't do that, but speaking as every fan of Star Wars, I can definitely do that. All right.

Who are we going to thank this week so many people the Brute and the Basilisk for the theme songs yeah what do you think else we're doing what else are we saying

what else thank those guys thanks to everybody for writing a nice review on iTunes yes thank you for subscribing that puts us up

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Oh, no. I've come to a sad realisation. So next week we're going to be talking the best and worst of the year. I'm not sure whether we'll go movie by movie or I might just be like, what was the movie that disappointed you? Yeah. What was the movie that you thought was full of farts we might oh thunder i'll have to watch the ridiculous six in the meantime

come up with the best fart movie um yeah we might do our classic hey remember that movie that happened sure yeah i remember it this is good it'll be our very special christmas episode yeah and then we'll take a week off won won't we? Most likely. Yeah. Unless something wild and crazy happens. Like we just do another episode. Yeah, but nothing crazy is going to bloody... Certainly not. And then after New Year's,

we'll do a bit like most anticipated for the year and we're bloody... We're off, aren't we? We're off and running. Off and running. Very exciting. How do we keep doing it? We've seen other people do it.

We just do similar things. We just do the thing. We just do that. You ever read Entertainment Weekly? It's the same thing, except we talk it and it's not as polished. That's exactly it. Yep. All right. Thanks, everybody.

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