The Weekly Planet - 123 SUPERHERO SHOWDOWN!

Episode Date: February 22, 2016

What a huge bloody week! Star Wars VIII is underway, Blade Runner 2 gets a release date, San Andreas 2 is happening for some reason but it has volcanoes, Deadpool makes box office history and will The... Hulk appear in Civil War?Plus we get back into our much requested episode, Superhero Showdown! Or whatever it was called last time. Pitting hero against hero, enemy against enemy and man versus duck.0:00 The start of the show.2:45 Star Wars VIII Trailer8:00 Blade Runner 2 Release Date11:12 San Andreas Sequel14:40 Ant-man & The Wasp writer on board15:40 The Hulk in Civil War?18:37 Deadpool Box Office & R Rated Comic Book Movies24:47 SUPERHERO SHOWDOWN!28:20 Batman VS Night Owl37:08 Rick VS Doctor Who42:27 Doctor Strange VS Operation43:45 Professor X VS The Purple Man47:40 Leonidas (300) VS Captain America53:23 Pre Syrum Steve Rogers VS Jim From The Office56:30 Kratos VS Alex Mercer59:58 Martian Manhunter VS The Vision1:03:03 Blind Hawkeye VS One Armed Green Arrow1:07:12 Bruce Wayne VS Scrooge McDuch1:09:30 Nightwing VS Winter Soldier1:15:32 Bruce Wayne’s Parents VS Tony Stark’s Parents1:18:05 Mad Max Fatal Four Way1:22:58 Captain Phasma VS Boba Fett1:26:09 What We Reading/What We Gonna Read1:32:25 Letters It’s Time For LettersAmazon affiliate link: https://amzn.to/2VljkKuPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesMr Sunday Movies YouTube Channel: https://goo.gl/lB90W2The Weekly Planet YouTube Channel: https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHFind our T-Shirts here: https://goo.gl/q6gE9C Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:46 That is wrong. Bend for your king. Never. Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes. Only in theaters May 10th. Tickets on sale now. what am i doing here okay welcome back everybody to another episode of the weekly planet official podcast of comic book movie comic book movie.com where we talk movies comics tv shows my name is james also known as mr sunday with me as always my coast nick mason internet celebrity nick mason
Starting point is 00:01:29 that's me that's me we're here on the show you know what would be good somebody out there could build like you know how somebody people make the super cut and they make a super cut of you know me saying dumb things for like 10 minutes or whatever a super cut it's just a flawless intro that would be good like like you say it flawlessly and then i say something intelligent or insightful but it's normally you stumble over and then i'm like i'm here too so i don't think there's enough audio for that in the 123 episodes or whatever whatever there is well we gave it a world we did we've had a good run yeah and speaking of giving it a whirl, didn't we? We did. We bloody did. We've had a good run. Yeah. And speaking of giving it a whirl, did you know they're giving another Star Wars movie a whirl?
Starting point is 00:02:07 Give it a whirl. Give it a whirl, mate. They're going to make a good one eventually. I'm kidding. For new listeners, I really like the last one. Yeah, it was pretty great. It was a pretty good film. So they released a very short teaser for Episode 8,
Starting point is 00:02:17 which I'm sure you saw. And the conspiracy theories started already. I don't know if you know that. In terms of like, is that the start of the film? They're like, that's just different angles from episode 7 which is weird that they would get it suggests that either they got all the crew together
Starting point is 00:02:31 and then had Rian Johnson. Were you going to say Danny DeVito? Yeah, I was going to say Danny DeVito and I was going to say Danny Boyle. Daddy Glover. I cannot tell the difference between Rian Johnson and Danny Boyle looking at them. Really? Yeah. Okay, fair. It's the glasses, isn't it? Yeah, it's the glasses.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Okay, anyway, go on. Sorry, go on. Classic superhero disguise. But either they got all the crew of Episode 8 together and went, just pretend we're filming. We'll drag you all out here. Or they just got the crew of Episode 7. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:02 Well, I'd imagine... Let's pretend this is Episode 8, guys. It must be. I reckon it would be essentially the same crew. Yeah, it's the Episode 7. Yeah. Well, I'd imagine... Let's pretend this is Episode 8, guys. It must be. I reckon it would be essentially the same crew. Yeah, it's the same crew. But look, it could have easily been filmed. Like, because it shows... Oh, you're one of the...
Starting point is 00:03:13 No, I'm just saying, John, I wasn't going to talk about it for this long, but you bloody brought it up, all right? Okay. Like, that could have been behind the scenes from Episode 7, and then they just cut to Rian Johnson going, good work, everybody. Make it Star Wars. Like, it doesn't have to be on the same day. He does say that all the time. seven and then they just cut to ryan johnson going good work everybody went to make it star wars like it doesn't even it doesn't have to be on the same day he does say that all the time after every take he goes he demands it after every take he's like we did it everybody we're making star wars and he
Starting point is 00:03:34 demands everybody cheers and anybody who doesn't cheer gets fired yeah he's a hard task so by the last shot he'd be like well done everybody we episode eight. And there's just one camera guy going, yeah. Look, I'm excited. Me too. I mean, it's starting. It didn't really show us anything new. People are saying, what does that mean that episode eight picks up exactly where seven left off?
Starting point is 00:03:58 Or would they start there and then would they time jump forward six months? Because none of the Star Wars movies follow exactly on. There's normally like a gap in between but i feel like for all the comics and books that will go in between they will leave a gap because how much law can you squeeze in there you can't squeeze in any any side calls that's right any captain phasma escapes the trash compactor that's right graphic novelsic novels. So, yeah. Boy, I'd say that. Me too. I'd read that.
Starting point is 00:04:27 Yeah. Just her picking away at the... She like takes off her helmet, it's just filled with toilet water, just emptying it out. Yeah. There's just like a, like, you know, fish skeleton in there.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Yeah, like a whole fish in a boot. She shakes out of it. Anyway, Carrie Fisher also confirmed that this movie will be filming under the title Space Bear. No, she didn't. Yeah, that's true. You know how like... Oh, I see what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:04:50 Yeah, it's not the actual title. The fake title. It's the fake title. Like, you know, Return of the Jedi was Blue Harvest and whatever. But the idea of that is so people don't show up to the set of like, Oh, I love Star Wars. I don't want to see Star... Like, if you tell people...
Starting point is 00:05:03 Yeah, you're right. But the jig is up at this point, isn't it? Yeah, I yeah that's you're right but I mean the jig is up at this point yeah I guess it's I mean you know what they've just implemented as well yeah drones to attack drones that that aerial
Starting point is 00:05:13 film that's amazing that's amazing wow so yeah but then you know what you mean because like the I guess the media outlets would have a drone to fly around and like
Starting point is 00:05:21 take shots of the filming yeah so then you have you have the the Lucasfilmfilm drones that shoot down those drones. They look like mini Star Destroyers. A little typhoid. But that's the thing, because it'll be a Star Wars branded anti-drone drone. So that's now a collectible. So somebody's going to build another drone that's got a big net on somebody's gonna build a like another drone that's got like a big net on
Starting point is 00:05:45 it and then capture those drones oh man this is gonna be aerial warfare above the set of star wars this is the real star wars in a way yeah that's very that's very exciting the possibilities there i want to see that movie yeah there will be the drone pilots yeah oh so good yeah drone it's like the people who you know know, who steal the Death Star plans. They're like, you just kind of like hear about them, but what did they really get up to? And now they're getting their own movie. Because wasn't there, remember there was that, there was that film, remember Fanboys? I never saw it, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Yeah, well, it was that film about they wanted to get their friend to see Star Wars episodes. Now there's going to be a film about people who just collect Star Wars drones. You bloody heard it here first. Yeah, that's right. Someone's going to make that. I people who just collect star wars drones you bloody heard it here first yeah that's right someone's going to make that i hope so it won't be us no and the version that does come out won't be good that involves controlling a drone and i feel weird i did that actually the other week yeah they're awesome yeah all right but we've got stuff going on i don't want one i'll just crash it immediately all right so you know blade runner 2 is happening now now i don't sure i mean i always just crash it immediately. All right. So you know Blade Runner 2 is happening? Now.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Now I do. I'm sure I've done it. I mean, I always did. You always did. It's got a release date. In my heart of hearts, I always knew it was. Yeah. It's got a release date of January 12th, 2018. Do you reckon that's enough buffer from Star Wars?
Starting point is 00:06:57 Yeah, then that's plenty of time to change directors like eight times. Yeah, that's right. Do a whole bunch of scripts and have a whole bunch of people go, I like the previous script a bit better, and then fill our hearts with despair and then produce a movie that's right do a whole bunch of scripts and have a whole bunch of people go I like the previous script a bit better and then fill our hearts with despair and then produce a movie that's fine
Starting point is 00:07:08 have Harrison Ford break his leg again he's suing right isn't he suing somebody yeah I don't know if he's suing but yeah there is legal
Starting point is 00:07:15 his leg is suing his leg is suing his new bionic leg is suing I don't think he cares like I'm sure he's people are like can we sue
Starting point is 00:07:21 and he's like I don't know whatever sure I mean it did hurt so probably yeah sue but you know what's interesting I don't know, whatever. Sure. I mean, it did hurt, so probably, yeah, sue. But you know what's interesting?
Starting point is 00:07:28 I'll just be over here struggling through my life with this medical marijuana that's helping me through. What's interesting about this is, though... God, life's tough, isn't it? Being rich and stoned all the time, allegedly. Allegedly. Not really. So that's January 12th.
Starting point is 00:07:43 January is like the toilet of cinema for now though because now but now because star wars took all that january money as well so now blade runner is january 12th like blade runner 2 i don't think it means it's garbage right i think it just means that people see oh shit there's like a there's a market there market. There's a huge empty gap where you can put a film. Yeah, a Blade Runner sequel. Harrison Ford actually is excited about this because I saw an interview with him during the Star Wars press conference. And they're like, how do you feel about sequels? Do you want another sequel for anything?
Starting point is 00:08:15 He's like, no, fuck off, no. And then he's like, oh no, yeah, Blade Runner. That'll be all right. I don't know whether he was like, shit, I should say Blade Runner. There's a flashback to him in his agent's office and he signed the Blade Runner contract and there's like a proviso. There's like a million dollar bonus
Starting point is 00:08:33 if he acts enthusiastic during interviews and stuff. And he flashes back to that and he's like, oh no, but I love Blade Runner though. I love it. I bet he doesn't always get that million dollars. I bet he didn't get it for Firewall. I bet he didn't get it for Firewall. I bet he didn't get it for Hollywood Homicide. I bet he didn't get it for Age of Adaline.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Speaking of garbage sequels. Oh, yes. No, I think, you know, I'm excited for Blade Runner 2. Yeah, me too. Just to see what it's like. Are you one of those people that loves the original Blade Runner? I think... Tears in the Rain, some monologue.
Starting point is 00:09:02 See, for me, it was one of the films I had to do in like English class I didn't know this so that kind of takes some of the fun out of it it takes literally
Starting point is 00:09:12 all the fun out of it but it is a very good movie I never got to study a film in school so now I don't know anything about film yeah I always wanted to though
Starting point is 00:09:20 yeah I feel like it'd break me I'm just gonna look up Vangelis Vangelis was What's that? Vangelis was the guy who did the music. Oh, okay. To see if he's alive.
Starting point is 00:09:30 Yeah, that's what I'm doing. Okay, here we go. Composer. He's still alive. How old? He's 72. He could do that. So he's younger than Harrison Ford, right?
Starting point is 00:09:38 Yes, I guess. Yeah, I think he would be. Around the same age. He's the bloody young duck on this film. All right, fingers crossed he's going to do the music. Blade Runner 2. Yeah. There you go.
Starting point is 00:09:50 Running through the streets. It's pretty good. Yeah. It's a pretty good movie. San Andreas 2 has been greenlit. Oh, that's right. People tweeted this at us. Yeah. So I hope it's just a trial for The Rock being like,
Starting point is 00:10:03 you stole a helicopter and thousands of people died. This is your job and you left. You took a really important piece of equipment that we used to save people. Did he crash it in the end? What happened? I think he did crash it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:18 California dreaming, mate. Yeah. I don't know. But anyway, this one's going to- What were you thinking? But I mean, what was he going to do with it anyway? There's room for like three people on board. He could have done a few trips back and forth.
Starting point is 00:10:29 That's true. He could have done a few trips back and forth. He could have saved Kylie Minogue. He could have saved... He could have saved Yohan Griffith. Yep. Yeah. But he got his comeuppance, didn't he?
Starting point is 00:10:36 That's true, he did. Yeah. So apparently he's going to encompass the Ring of Fire in the Pacific Ocean, which is apparently this place got its name because there's 450 volcanoes that surround it. So it's going to be all volcanoes. Didn't he do Journey to the Center of the Earth 2? There's probably a bunch of volcanoes in that. Journey 2.
Starting point is 00:10:54 Journey 2. Number 2. Now I get it. I bet it wasn't number 2. Yeah. So are they going to call it San Andreas 2? I hope so. Yeah, me too.
Starting point is 00:11:02 San Andreas 2, colon, it's not in San Andreas. Because that place is literally destroyed. See, because people tweeted at us about this sequel, which you hated and I was ambivalent towards. Yeah. I thought it was kind of fun. I hated it. Because there wasn't a villain to smash, basically.
Starting point is 00:11:19 Yeah, they tried. That's not why I hated it. I hated it because it was a bad and boring film that made no sense. And the CGI was spotty and all over the place and i don't know the rock was like completely unlikable what do you tell us how you really feel mate and also at this point watching a city fall down i don't feel any emotions well exactly it's just uh it's just somebody's special effects real yeah exactly i didn't mind it i feel like if I really saw a city fall down, I'd feel something.
Starting point is 00:11:48 But then maybe not, because I'm so desensitized. You know, there's that conspiracy theory about all these natural disasters and alien attacks. The only reason they make these movies in case something like that happens, and then people go, oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Is that a conspiracy theory? That's a conspiracy theory, yeah. We're all about the conspiracy theories this week you know it anyway I would I thought
Starting point is 00:12:08 because people tweeted there's going to be this sequel I'm like where are they going to go if they still call it San Andreas is it just going to be another what if it was would you watch if it was another
Starting point is 00:12:17 earthquake in San Andreas just the wreckage of San Andreas it was just another one and they're like we're falling even further this is real bad. We thought it was bad before, but it's real bad now.
Starting point is 00:12:27 What do you knock down? Like a pile of rubble. Like, you know what I mean? It has to move locations. I guess. So what's he going to be doing? Do you reckon his family's going to be in there, in the volcano?
Starting point is 00:12:38 They'll be like, we're just on this Pacific Island holiday. We just got to get away from the destruction of San Andreas. Let's not research dangerous areas. Do you reckon they'll work in global warming and things like that? No. Was it?
Starting point is 00:12:54 No. There wasn't a reason behind the earthquake, was there? Paul Giamatti's just like, oh, shit, there's going to be a pretty big earthquake. So do you reckon they'll just do that again? I think they will. It's going to be an even bigger earthquake but with volcanoes. Yeah. Great.
Starting point is 00:13:06 Unless they're like, no, because maybe they'll be like, oh, we've got a, the last one was just things falling apart. This one's got a social message about it.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Oh. That's the way. The social message should be don't steal a helicopter that's used to rescue people. Exactly. Anyway,
Starting point is 00:13:21 Adam McKay, director, he'll be back to write for a bit on Ant-Man and the Wasp, the sequel, because he had his hand in writing the first one. They wanted him to direct it, but he was like, this is very late in the game. I'm happy to pitch in, but maybe he was friends with Edgar Wright as well.
Starting point is 00:13:39 And so he's like, I don't know about this. So yeah, that's cool. He's a pretty good dude. Are you excited for Ant-Man and the Wasp? Yes, I am. Me too this. So, yeah, that's cool. That's pretty good. He's a pretty good dude. Are you excited for Ant-Man and the Wasp? Yes, I am. Me too. Now we've established the origin. Yep.
Starting point is 00:13:50 And that's out of the way. Yep. Just fun film. Fun film. Just making a fun action film. Yep. Do you want 60s flashbacks? Yes.
Starting point is 00:13:56 Me too. Yeah. And 80s flashbacks. Yes. Me too. Flashbacks. Flashbacks. Flashbacks.
Starting point is 00:14:04 I thought we were going to go into a flashback But then we didn't Oh I could probably Could you flashback to like a really old episode Where I'm talking about how excited I am For the Edgar Wright Ant-Man movie And then to another flashback
Starting point is 00:14:15 Where I'm really sad that he's not on it I'd have to go through so much stuff No don't do it Don't worry about it Just pretend we did that And it'll be a real fun bit It'll be a good joke yeah Also Anthony Mackie mentioned
Starting point is 00:14:24 That he loved Civil War, I think he said it was the best Marvel movie that he's seen. And he also mentioned the cast. He's seen the movies he's in. He's seen the movies he's in. And he mentioned the cast, and apparently he mentioned Mark Ruffalo is in it, who was thought not to be in it.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Well, well. But I hope... Maybe it's a flashback. Then you flash back to Avengers and he's in Avengers. And then you flash back to that weird Coca-Cola commercial that he's in that. Is that a flash forward though? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:51 It's interesting, isn't it? Yeah. So Mackie Facty, Mackie's given the game away here. He's revealed the secret. He has. Okay. I hope, and I didn't think he was in it because they mentioned that they'd cut him.
Starting point is 00:15:02 But I'd kind of imagine he would have brought it up if he's not in it, you'd think. Yeah, that'd be a weird... Mackie gets very excited, though. He's always like, this is Avengers 2.7. This is Avengers 3.9. This is Civil War.7. Like, he's just throwing out all these decimal points.
Starting point is 00:15:18 I never know what he means. But this is pretty clear cut. How about it's the end. It's the end of Civil War. They're all tucking out. They're all still fighting. Oh, Nick Fury's tucking them into bed. That's right, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:30 They're all fighting. Spider-Man is there, and he's like, I'm here, I'm Spider-Man, right? And people are like, Spider-Man, finally, right? And he's on screen for like two seconds, and then you hear this thunderclap, and like Hulk, you see Hulk fall out of the air, and he's wearing like a real big like old-timey space suit and he's like I'm back from space and then he just hits the ground and there's a big explosion and then it just says to be continued that would be incredible right I was hoping
Starting point is 00:15:58 Spider-Man gets one second of screen time and then flattened or it just cuts to the whole just cuts to the whole he's, I'm back from space. Stuff happened in space. I can talk now. And then he... But remember, he has to go to Thor Ragnarok. I was in Ragnarok. The next movie
Starting point is 00:16:15 will have to be a flashback. But I hope that it's Tony Stark packing the Hulk into a crate and throwing him into space for Thor Ragnarok. Even though he was sort of already going to space or whatever happened at the end of Age of Ultron. It was unclear.
Starting point is 00:16:28 Because then you could do what? That jet doesn't have the power to go into space. We've discussed this. I think it has. Wormholes. Yeah, right. Look, I'm willing to believe that it could get into orbit and then something else happened.
Starting point is 00:16:39 What happened to Peter Quill? Like, he got picked up by the Ravan Ravagers. Yeah, but that's not going to happen every week, is it? Yeah, but if they're like, shit, this guy would be good for our gladiator battles, for our international TV series gladiator, sorry, interdimensional, interspatial, whatever the word is. Uh-huh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:55 Intercontinental. Thank you. Mm. So, no, because then that would lead into World War Hulk. Okay. So, if he comes back and he's like, you shot me into space, you son of a bitch. Like, they must be doing World War Hulk, right? Yes comes back and he's like you shot me into space you son of a bitch like they must be doing World War Hulk right
Starting point is 00:17:07 yes at some point just make make the good things that's what I say yeah exactly make the good things we've heard about before
Starting point is 00:17:14 don't make new things we're putting our foot down don't make new things don't even think about it for a second speaking of new things though oh good link I always
Starting point is 00:17:22 I don't know if it's an actual good link but go ahead smooth transition yeah but I appreciate it thank you but it was yep Speaking of new things, though. Oh, good link. I don't know if it's an actual good link, but go ahead. Smooth transition. Thank you. But it was. Deadpool is shattering box office records all over the box office. They reckon it's going to take another $50 million in the US this weekend alone.
Starting point is 00:17:41 That's a great follow-up to the $130 odd it made last week. But, of course, on the back of this, a lot of studios and that are thinking, oh, the R rating. That's what we talked about this last week. But of course, on the back of this, a lot of studios and that are thinking, well, the R rating. That's what we, we talked about this last week. Yeah, we did talk about it last week. The, they all,
Starting point is 00:17:53 they never get it right. I don't understand. Again, last week we talked about, it was last week, doesn't matter. We talked about like Avatar. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:59 It made huge amounts of money and people were like, because that's the, the movie, Bloody Houses of Orlando. It's because of the 3D people love 3D nobody loves 3D
Starting point is 00:18:07 and then we were just hit with a bloody stream of 3D movies we're still feeling it we're still feeling the after effects the San Andreas aftershocks
Starting point is 00:18:14 of Avatar people were like we didn't like it because it had 3D we tolerated the 3D I didn't like it period that's right
Starting point is 00:18:22 I said it putting your foot down everybody's turned on that movie anyway yeah so what they've taken away from deadpool is just making an r-rated film and it will be successful never never mind that like pretty much every other r-rated comic book movie that's ever come out has tanked yep not every one of them like kingsman did well but then you look at dread tanked probably some of the Blade movies sure maybe Constantine
Starting point is 00:18:46 if that was irate and it probably wasn't yeah I'm trying to think his mother Spawn that didn't do well presumably
Starting point is 00:18:52 but Seth McFarlane is he the one who does Spawn no Todd McFarlane Todd McFarlane Seth McFarlane's family guy he's come out and gone
Starting point is 00:18:59 oh no I have a Spawn movie ready to go and so like apparently that's like the wheels are spinning on that cannot wait but Spawn is like he's very unlikable
Starting point is 00:19:09 like I don't feel as a character or just the idea of him everything like the look like design wise incredible like he sells a lot of toys
Starting point is 00:19:17 he pushes a lot of merch yeah a lot of those little those little busts where he's got all the chains swirling around yeah exactly yeah
Starting point is 00:19:23 but I don't feel he's got do you think he could be marketed he's not a franchise no he's not a franchise guy and done yeah i'm not so i don't mean that he's unlikable like you know he's a lot of people's favorite character but i don't i can't imagine that they'd pull out this amazing spawn campaign marketing campaign and then everyone will rush out to see spawn then again i said that about deadpool and it you, and it happens. I've got a bloody egg on my face, mate. So yeah, there's also talk that the Wolverine 3 will get an R rating. But the thing is,
Starting point is 00:19:53 if you're going to give something an R rating, you've got to give it an R rating for the right reasons. So you don't make Wolverine an R rating because he's quippy and he's sweary. You give him an R rating because he's taken heads off. Right, exactly. It also seems odd to me that you would build a movie you'd say first of all it's going to be an r rating like the the whiteboard in the in the production that's your that's your go-to yeah
Starting point is 00:20:15 the whiteboard they've just written r rating in the middle and they've just drawn lines off and gone okay what can we do to make it an r rated yeah it seems like a terrible way to build a film yes yes maybe you could cut a guy's head off maybe you could tell you some f-bombs maybe you could on lines off and gone, okay, what can we do to make it an R-rated film? It seems like a terrible way to build a film. Yes, yes. Maybe you could cut a guy's head off. Maybe you could show some F-bombs. Maybe you could, whatever.
Starting point is 00:20:30 Yeah, well, that's it. Well, James Gunn actually. Write the film first. Write the film. And if it turns out to be an R-rated film,
Starting point is 00:20:34 you keep it as an R-rated film. That's right. And if it's not, then it's not. Then shut up. Yeah. Yeah. What has James Gunn said?
Starting point is 00:20:39 Well, James Gunn. We'll get him. We'll get him on Twitter. No, we won't. No, no,
Starting point is 00:20:42 he's, James Gunn said that. Our mate, James Gunn. Our mate, yes. I don't know why he hasn't blocked us yet, but he'll get him. We'll get him on Twitter. No, we won't. No, no. James Gunn said that... Our mate, James Gunn. Our mate, yes. I don't know why he hasn't blocked us yet, but he'll get there. He's posted a piece saying
Starting point is 00:20:51 what people shouldn't take away from Deadpool is that it's R-rated. They should take away that it's something original and that's what people like to see. The same way he said that when Guardians came out, people were like... Everything became like Guardians of the Galaxy. Yeah, it's like the trailer.
Starting point is 00:21:04 We should put in a pop song from the 80s. Like Suicide Squad. out people like everything became like guardians of the galaxy yeah it's like the trailer we should put in a pop song like suicide squad and then the new bloody star trek trailer looks like a guardians movie yes it does i mean like so what you should take from it is let's not let's mimic this exactly it should be oh maybe we should try something original and people will maybe go for that maybe because often also people don't go for original things. It's a bloody crap shit, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:21:28 I'd say 3D. Yeah. R-rated and 3D. Was Deadpool 3D? It wasn't, was it? No. Not when I saw it. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:21:36 So look, yeah, I don't know. There's a lesson in this. I don't know what it is. But just... Do you want to see an R-rated Wolverine movie? Yes.
Starting point is 00:21:44 It fits. Yeah, absolutely. But then again, this Hughated wolverine movie yes it fits yeah absolutely but then again this hugh jackman wolverine isn't like the comic book wolverine in that way like he's not there's a moment in x-men 2 where he kills a kills a SWAT team in the x-mansion yeah and that's that's pushing the envelope it's not quite irated yeah i would like to see more of that with you know the old man lo Logan kind of story, which is apparently what they're making. Someone tweeted or emailed me, and I can't remember who, what would you think if they did old man Logan,
Starting point is 00:22:11 but they replaced Hawkeye, which they have to do anyway, because he's owned by Marvel, with Deadpool? And it was like a buddy. That would definitely work, yeah. Do you reckon they'd do it though? Maybe. And it could be Deadpool. Because in Old Man Logan, Hawkeye's blind.
Starting point is 00:22:31 So Deadpool could be... Blind also. Also blind. Very easy fix. We've cracked the code. Put it on the whiteboard. I rated blind? Yeah. Does that tip us over the edge?
Starting point is 00:22:39 Depends how they're blind. We'll get the coveted blind audience. That'll be great. That's right, yeah. So, yeah, whatever. Great. I'm all for it. Me too.
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Starting point is 00:23:44 Only in theaters May 10. Tickets on sale now. Well, look, Mason, you know what we love? What do we love? Versus episodes. Our listeners. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:58 That's priority number one. Our sponsors. Our sponsors. That's probably priority number one. Let's rank the things that we love. Okay, great. Sleeping. Our friends and loved ones.
Starting point is 00:24:10 Okay, sleeping number one. What was I thinking? Sleeping number one. Number two. Not going to work. A good breakfast. Yeah. Not going to work is probably number two.
Starting point is 00:24:20 Yeah. I don't know. I'd probably put work above not going to work above sleeping. Yeah, me too, actually. Yeah. Not going to work going to work great anyway maybe we'll come back to that we'll do an episode we rank the things we just rank the things we like no uh so we do these superhero showdown episodes and then i think we've this might be the third or fourth that we've done where basically we say to people tweet us in in, put it on the Reddit, email, two superheroes or supervillains or any fictional or non-fictional character. Anything in the world.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Anyone, any concept. It can be a piece of sadness versus sleeping in. It can be a toaster versus a dragon. A toaster versus a more expensive toaster. That's right. Maybe it's got four slots. Oh, yes. Can you imagine? Yeah. How many slots has your toaster got? Mine's just got the four slots oh yes can you imagine yeah how many slots
Starting point is 00:25:05 has your toaster got mine's just got the two yeah mine's just got two as well did you ever need more than that there's not enough people living here that i would need more than that i'd be like if i had eight kids i need one of those long toasters do you know yeah just put a whole loaf of bread in they're called the brady bunch toaster that's right what are we doing what are we doing here anyway you send in our listeners the weekly whacker we doing here? Anyway, you send in our listeners, the weekly whacker to do's, our loyal listeners, they send in some people they would like us to
Starting point is 00:25:31 fight to get, and we determine who is the winner. Here am the rules. Yes. Wait, what are the rules? Okay, here we go. Open football field. The rule is the setting. Both the two opponents, they just appear at opposite ends of a standard size American football field,
Starting point is 00:25:53 which we have determined is the optimum size and shape for a superhero, supervillain concept item showdown. Now bearing in mind, neither you nor I have ever set foot on an American football field. And we never will. We figure close enough. However, if both characters are Canadian, I'm willing to say it could be an ice hockey rink. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:26:14 But they have to be on skates. So if it's like Wolverine versus bloody Guardian or whatever, they have to ice skate on a hockey rink. That's fair enough. Yeah, okay. I'm okay with that. Rule number two, they appear, the opposite ends. Yep. They see the other one.
Starting point is 00:26:29 They immediately perceive the other one as a threat. Yes. So it can't be like, hey, maybe they just have a nice little chat. No. No, the other ones are threats. Enemies. They are enemies. Then they proceed to neutralize the opponent in the way that they normally would.
Starting point is 00:26:43 That's right. So Batman's not going to kill you yep i'll fire a gun wolverine might start out non-lethal yep and then escalate yep that's deadpool will just kill you straight try to kill you straight away correct okay the opponents have whatever equipment they would normally have yes or whatever we deem yeah if somebody's like if somebody has a good suggestion we'll just probably just roll with that. That's fine. I'm going to say no vehicles, no backup, unless it's part of the character. So like Batman doesn't have the Batmobile, but Ghost Rider can probably summon his motorcycle.
Starting point is 00:27:15 Sure, I guess so, yeah. You know what I mean? Can that summon out of thin air, that motorcycle? Sometimes it can, sometimes it can't. Because the Batmobile can't summon out of it. I guess he could summon the Batwing. We'll get to that, I'm sure. Let's just say no vehicles.
Starting point is 00:27:27 Let's say no vehicles. Yeah. Yeah. So, and obviously Batman can't call Alfred and be like, Alfred, get down here. I'm in trouble. Please help Alfred. Spawn's using all these chains.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Do you have something to help me with that? Spawn's got so many chains. I did not see this coming. I think that's the rules though. That's pretty much many chains. I don't see this coming. I think that's the rules though. That's pretty much the rules. It's established. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:48 And in our decision, final rule, our decision is final unless you have any inkling that there might be a better result in which case that's fine. Also- We're not super invested in this.
Starting point is 00:27:59 No. And we're not going to fight you on Twitter about it. Whatever you think is correct. Correct. We don't care. All right. All right. All right.
Starting point is 00:28:06 First one. Batman. I thought we'd go with the crowd favorite. We're going to start with a classic. We're going to start with a weird one. That's right. Batman versus Night Owl. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:14 This is from Spellman. Also, here's another rule I forgot. It's the character in the prime of their... Yes. Their prime of their fighting fit. Unless it's stipulated. Unless it's like, this is Dark Knight, Batman. Yeah. Unless it's like, this is Dark Knight, Batman. Yeah, unless it's like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:28:27 Dark Knight Returns, Batman versus Old Man Logan. Yeah, exactly. That's actually a good one. It's a pretty good one, right? Now that I think about it, I was going to say another intrinsic part, like if a character has a vehicle, like as an intrinsic part of their character,
Starting point is 00:28:39 I was going to say Clint Eastwood in Gran Torino. He's just got racism in the car. He's allowed to bring the car. Okay. Fair enough. This is from Last Name Spellman on the email. I'm sorry, I can't pronounce the first name. He factored that in.
Starting point is 00:28:52 He said, or just Spellman. Yes, he did. I think his first name's maybe Hawaiian. Yeah, okay. But I'm not going to say it in case it's not. Also, you can't remember it. I cannot. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:01 So Batman versus Night Owl. Now, off the bat, I would say regular comic book batman is leaps and bounds ahead of night owl yes right but to for the in the interest of fairness yes making this longer than a two second conversation say we chuck in either the nolan batman or the burton batman what do you think okay look i think we're gonna i think we should go with nolan batman right because night owl exists in a universe like we, we do have Dr. Manhattan in that universe. Yes. But the Watchmen universe is a universe where regular people put on costumes and decide to become superheroes.
Starting point is 00:29:35 Yes. And in the movie, it's kind of this hyper-real universe. Sure, yeah. And I feel in the Watchmen movie, they're kind of superhuman because they've just been punching people so often. Yes. They've got like artificial knuckles and dead nerves and they can't feel pain anymore or whatever.
Starting point is 00:29:58 That's it, exactly. So let's say Nolan Batman versus comic book-y Watchmen movie night out. Done. Done. Any particular era of Nolan Batman? Just whatever. Just it's all. Mid-period.
Starting point is 00:30:10 Dark Knight. Dark Knight. Okay, great. I would say they have roughly the same amount of like tech, I would say. Like they've both got grapple guns and whatnot. Batman doesn't have the Batwing at this point though. No, he doesn't. Let me think about this.
Starting point is 00:30:24 I can't have Archie. It's the name of his ship. Oh, is that his little... Oh, it's a ship. I thought you meant he's the artificial owl. Either of them. Okay, good. Does he have an artificial owl?
Starting point is 00:30:33 It's a real owl. Okay, good. Okay, good. Right, so in terms of fighting ability, I would say they're roughly on par, but maybe even Night Owl's quicker, because Nolan Batman's doing a lot of... That's true yeah
Starting point is 00:30:45 elbows it's all elbows and knees but like night out there's like snapping arms and bones are coming out and like i think he hits this has turned very quickly but you know what i mean like i think he hits harder oh no what do you think yes he does hit harder and he doesn't hold back that's actually a really good point. Yeah, yeah. We shouldn't have started on this one. No, we should definitely have started on this one. We should definitely start on this one to set the precedent
Starting point is 00:31:14 that there's a lot of thinking time and we don't really know what we're talking about. Nolan Batman could barely handle the Joker and some dogs, right? That's true. It didn't go well. In a corridor or even in a street alley fight night owl with the help of silk specter yeah kill like hardened criminals that's true like just brutalize them and i feel like that in itself gives him that would give him the edge over the nolan batman the nolan batman's always like tripping over
Starting point is 00:31:44 and like getting stabbed by accident. That's true. And like he's on fire and he falls into a dubster or whatever. Do you know what I mean? Like there's a lot of that. Yeah, that's true. But what's he got? Let's get some points in favor of Nolan Batman.
Starting point is 00:31:55 He's got chocky gloves so he can glide. Yes. He's got an explosive gun. He's got that bloody- He's got that gun that shoots- Sticky explosives. Just wet bombs. Yeah, that's right. He's got like just gun. He's got that bloody... He's got that gun that shoots... Sticky explosives. Just wet bombs. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:32:07 He's got just moist grenades. Yeah. But I don't think he's got that on him, standard. Okay, fair enough. That's true. That was for a very specific mission. Once he got on him, he's got batarangs. He's got a lot of batarangs.
Starting point is 00:32:18 What about that thing that can grip and tear the hole in the side of a... On the side of a truck, he's got that. Which he uses briefly. That would work on Night Owl's face. Definitely. Definitely he uses briefly. That would work on Night Owl's face. Definitely. Definitely, but he wouldn't use that on Night Owl's face. Yeah, yeah. And who's more heavily armoured, would you say?
Starting point is 00:32:33 Batman. Nolan Batman. But Nolan Batman's got the gaps in his armour. Yeah, but Night Owl's not going to... You can't get a fist in the bloody armour gap. Yeah, that's true. You know what I mean? You could get a...
Starting point is 00:32:44 Has he got, like, ailerons? Has he got bowlers? He's got a laser. Has he? Yeah, he's got a laser. I remember that. He's got a laser gun. That's probably going to come in handy, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:32:55 Yeah, I think so, yeah. Well, Nolan Batman's got that machine that gets into your phone so you can see through walls until you get hit in the head or whatever and you can't see anything that's true he does have that machine yeah I don't know
Starting point is 00:33:08 that doesn't help you in a football field not gonna help yeah he's also got that machine that can take a fingerprint off a bullet not on him
Starting point is 00:33:15 not on him and also not useful yeah I don't know it's Night Owl he's older but I reckon he's stronger and he's faster
Starting point is 00:33:23 look at that corridor fight. He just tore through those guys. Yeah. Who's Nolan Batman tearing through? Bloody nobody, mate. That's true. He's not tearing through anybody unless they're terrified of him. That's right, exactly.
Starting point is 00:33:34 And Night Owl's real enemy is his impotency. That's very true. He'll fight a man in a bat costume, no problem. That gives him energy and strength. If anything, he's overcompensating for being impotent. That's right, exactly. That makes him very dangerous. Batman, as far as we know, fully functional junk.
Starting point is 00:33:54 Fully junctional, as I say. Yeah, I don't know. Batman's always like, I guess I should retire. Yeah. Oh no, I guess Night Owl's in retirement. But he was forced into retirement as well wasn't he because of the superhero registration act but then again batman was also forced into retirement it's like retirement going on in superhero movies i feel
Starting point is 00:34:14 like in a retirement off who wins in this definitely nolan's batman yeah because he went away for years yeah he did yeah well so did night out but i think night out was kind of he didn't want to like he always kind of wanted to come back. Exactly, but Nolan Batman just growing a little goatee and having a hurt leg and just sitting in his mansion. That's right. Receiving his Levenses on a little serving tray. But what about when Ozymandias fights Nite Owl?
Starting point is 00:34:44 Yes. He, like, paces him. Yeah. But do you think... He even bloody avoids the laser. He does avoid the laser. Now you remember the laser. That's right.
Starting point is 00:34:50 I do remember now. But Batman isn't on... Nolan Batman isn't on that level of Ozymandias. No. No, because Ozymandias is... Ozymandias, sorry, thank you. He's... He gives me the look.
Starting point is 00:35:03 Ozymandias is just like he's the the epitome of yes every like he's the he's trained himself to yeah yeah he can catch a bullet
Starting point is 00:35:12 yeah that's right yeah still don't quite understand that no I guess I don't need to look I think I think it's gonna go
Starting point is 00:35:18 they see each other opposites of the football field yep Batman flings a batarang mm-hmm 9-0 hits it with the laser. Yep. We're going to say ranged weapons are now out.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Right. What other, do they have any ranged, anything else? Rattling hooks, who knows? Yeah, grappling hooks, yeah. Yeah, but look, and it's going to come into a... They just get tangled in the middle and they'll be like, and they'll be trying to un-nod it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:40 It takes forever. It's like untangling your bloody headphones, your bloody iPod headphones. It's going to come to a close action fight. I think you're right. It's going to go to night owl. Yeah. I think he'd just take hold of Bruce Wayne's forearm
Starting point is 00:35:52 and then just like snap his elbow backwards and then it would be over. Remember when Bruce Wayne hurt his knee and then he was like, I can't do anything. I can't even go down the shops. Alfred, bring my elevenses. Look, that being said, any other kind of Batman version,
Starting point is 00:36:08 except maybe the one from Burton, would kill Night Owl, like the comic book version. He wouldn't kill him. No, not kill him, but he would like, it would eviscerate him. Like he'd have, is that also killing someone? Yeah, pull his bloody guts out. You don't want to do that. Okay, fine.
Starting point is 00:36:24 He'd punch him real hard. Metaphorically, yeah. Yes. So, yeah. In the interest of fairness. Yeah. I mean, in the interest of fairness, Night Owl is just a slightly more dangerous version of Blue Beetle.
Starting point is 00:36:36 Okay, sure, yeah. Because he's like that's the... Okay, yeah. That's a good point. He's like a deliberate variation of that character. So, comic book Batman would definitely beat this. Yes. Yeah, but I think if we're talking Nolan versus movie watchman.
Starting point is 00:36:53 Yep. That's how that goes. That's a short fight, yeah. What about this one? This is from Fake Zach. Okay. Rick versus the Doctor. Oh, that's right.
Starting point is 00:37:01 Now we need to establish, is it Rick from The Walking Dead? No, it's Rick the crazy scientist from Rick and dead no it's rick it's it's rick the crazy scientist from rick and morty yes versus doctor who yep whichever one let's say current maybe or do you want to go like tenant because i feel like tenants okay well i think we have to determine who is the doctor in his prime which will upset a lot of people i'd say it's probably tenant i would say it's also popularity wise at least yeah look i haven't seen a lot of this new season so so I can't speak for it either. So do you want to go Tenant? Tenant and Matt Smith are pretty much the same.
Starting point is 00:37:30 They've just got slightly different hair. That's true. It's the same version. What about Eccleston? He seems more dangerous. Yeah. Capaldi could have some sort of... Guitar?
Starting point is 00:37:42 I was going to say guitar versus like weird dance off yeah sure that could totally work so it's rick from rick and morty yep look a tardis or no tardis for the doctor i think you'd probably arrive in the tardis and you know you reckon they just arrive you pulled you pulled from you pulled from your time stream does that mean rick does that mean rick has his buddy yes he does because he's it's in his coat. Well, then the Doctor has his sonic screwdriver. And a lot of time, the Doctor has a portable teleporting thing on his wrist. A lot of the time or all the time? Standard issue or no?
Starting point is 00:38:13 I just feel like if you give him the teleporter, Doctor Who's standard issue is the TARDIS. Like if you buy a Doctor Who action figure, he's with the TARDIS generally, or it's boxed in the TARDIS or something. I know we said no vehicles yeah so you reckon doctor who would not have the tardis i reckon doctor would not have the tardis he just closed it because he just get in and close the door and be like oh yeah exactly oh yeah yeah well you gotta okay you gotta remember as well
Starting point is 00:38:39 the doctor doctor can pull out some 11th hour bullshit and always win. Yes. See, that's what I'm saying. This is a scenario in which he can't do that. Okay, right. There's no writing tricks. There's no bloody painting yourself out of a corner. Right.
Starting point is 00:38:55 Doesn't work. Okay. Then it's Rick. It's Rick. Yes, it is. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the Doctor is very reluctant to kill.
Starting point is 00:39:04 Yeah. He will if you make him. But Rick would kill anybody. For any reason. For any reason. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the Doctor is very reluctant to kill. He will if you make him, but Rick would kill anybody. For any reason. For any reason at any point in time. Remember he killed Rick's, Morty's school bully, like by accident? Yeah. He shot him with a freeze gun and then left and then it just fell over. Remember when he horribly mutated everyone in the world?
Starting point is 00:39:20 That's right, exactly. And they just left that reality. He doesn't give a shit. So, and I feel like he'd also, Rick would also know who he is. Oh, good. But I think the Doctor would know who he is.
Starting point is 00:39:31 I think if we're building that, if we're building that scenario, I would say they each know who the other one is. But, okay, I guess so, because there's a lot of like... Because, look, I'm willing to say that the Doctor,
Starting point is 00:39:41 if he can't... I'm going to say he hasn't built built we can't build a scenario in which he's had all the people in the world yeah love him and so he defeats rick because they all scream the doctor beats rick or whatever and he's built this series of magical satellites he doesn't know he's gonna be there yeah he's just pulled but i'm gonna say he is aware they are both aware of who the other one is okay i'm gonna give them both the level of knowledge that they would have, I think. In that case, then, the Doctor would run immediately if he knew who he was.
Starting point is 00:40:11 Okay. Do you think he'd be able to take out his portal gun with his sonic scooter? I think so, yes. I think also hand-to-hand, Rick has that. Yes, he does. He loves a bloody knock-down, drag-out brawl. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:40:23 He's not above that. He'll punch another scientist or like, you know, tear an alien's head off or whatever. Okay, I'm willing to give you this. The Doctor does not arrive with the TARDIS, but it's on the way. Okay, sure. And just every now and then it cuts to it. It's like... Exactly. Because the TARDIS is intelligent.
Starting point is 00:40:44 Yeah, it's like Thor's Haber. It's got a link to it. Yeah, he's done that where he's lost in our deep space or whatever and the TARDIS is on the way to find him. Yes, okay. So if he lives long enough, it's going to get there. Right, okay. Will he live long enough though?
Starting point is 00:41:03 Yes. Then what does he do does he get in the TARDIS maybe would you like to see a fight inside the TARDIS yes me too
Starting point is 00:41:10 yeah man that'd be incredible okay so again they immediately perceive the other one as a threat yes I'm
Starting point is 00:41:17 willing to believe that the doctor could negotiate long enough that he isn't immediately killed do you reckon Rick would
Starting point is 00:41:24 pause yes to see what to see what negotiate long enough that he isn't immediately killed do you reckon Rick would pause yes to see what to see what he's curious yeah to see where this is gonna go okay sure
Starting point is 00:41:33 I think he I think Rick would wanna know what the angle on this is right right and then he'd kill him then he'd kill him
Starting point is 00:41:39 okay good yeah I'd imagine he'd just be a pile of ash with like a pair of chucks yeah like that's how that would end i think so i don't know how but yeah i don't know the specifics but yeah interesting what about this one but i think if they both get in the tardis it's the doctor's
Starting point is 00:41:53 fight well it's his yeah it's his arena isn't it he could pull a lever and sure i don't know what happens yeah he's intangible or something whatever he can but he can... But he can also... The Doctor can teleport the TARDIS around him. Oh, yeah. So if it did arrive, maybe that's how it would arrive and then they'd both be inside it. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:42:12 Good. If he lives long enough. This is from Max. Doctor Strange versus the board game Operation. Operation would win. Absolutely. There's no question there.
Starting point is 00:42:22 For those of you who are not aware, Doctor Strange lost the use of his hands in a car, but not complete use, but he was in a horrific car accident. He can use them enough to make the devil horns to some of his magics. But any kind of fine motor skills? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:33 No. That's very good. I love it. Thank you. That being said, he has been known to perform surgery using magic. Do you see what I'm saying? I see what you're saying. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:46 Yeah. I still think the board game operation wins. That does not brook no nonsense. There's no maybes in that. Yeah, you're right. You touch the side, that buzz is going off, man. Correct me if I'm wrong. I don't remember that game very well. Are you pulling organs out of a man or bits of glass and wrenches and shit?
Starting point is 00:43:05 Oh, no, you're pulling like organs and bones. You're not pulling shrapnel. That guy's dead then. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. But he was dead anyway because Doctor Strange is. That's a good point. So they both appear at the opposite ends of the football field.
Starting point is 00:43:17 Correct. And then Doctor Strange has a meltdown. Yes, he does. He's like, no, my one weakness, why? I'm very much looking forward to that Doctor Strange movie, though. Yeah, yeah. Man, I'm super pumped for it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:29 What about this one? Oh, by the way, you got one there? Okay, how about, oh, here's one. This is from Jakob von Schwant on Twitter. Good stuff. Professor X versus the Purple Man. Right. How about that?
Starting point is 00:43:45 How about that? Do you think Professor X could psychically Man. Right. How about that? How about that? Do you think Professor X could psychically shut him down? Yes. However, well, here's the thing. Let's say it's Patrick Stewart, Professor X, David Tennant. He's back. Yes. We're making another one.
Starting point is 00:44:02 David Tennant, Purple Man. Yeah. Does that, the height of his powers means he can speak over a PA and he's in a hospital? Yes. Because none of that happens in Jessica Jones. Yes, we're going to go with that. Okay. Good, good.
Starting point is 00:44:12 Yeah, yeah. Does he have a megaphone in this scenario? He does not have a megaphone. His classic weapon. No, he does not have his classic weapon, the megaphone. See, here's the thing, because Professor X, psychic powers, psychic shielding. Yes. Purple Man's power, not technically psychic.
Starting point is 00:44:30 No, it's pheromones and whatever. And movie Professor X, he's super vulnerable to anything that isn't psychic powers, ultimately. He's been gassed. He's been distracted slightly. He's been punched. He He's been distracted slightly. He's been punched. He exploded that time. He exploded that time.
Starting point is 00:44:50 What an idiot. Yeah. He injected him with that stuff that made himself walk, but he couldn't. How does a wheelchair go on grass? His wheelchair, the Professor X wheelchair. Yes. Would it be okay?
Starting point is 00:45:04 Because in the comics, he's got like a hover wheelchair. But I don't think, you know what? Movement's not important for him though is it that's true yeah so i don't think he's running down the field or rolling down the field in his wheelchair is he okay so what's the range on purple man's i'd say well it spanned the hospital so i would say like i'd say how long does it take to start up though instant isn't it instant no it's i guess if he's there yeah that's a good point depends on the wind then that's what i'm saying yeah no wind okay no wind yeah all right standard air movement no wind wait let me check no wind no we did here yeah uh well yeah look it depends tricky right i think professor x could shut him down before he could yes that being said the professor x in the movies isn't very good at being professor it's very bad it always seems like
Starting point is 00:45:52 it's his first day professor xing that's right he's his powers are incredible yep but he's very good at having a small thing get in his way and neutral him. And then Cyclops has to deal with it. Then Cyclops has to deal with it, exactly. And you know what? He's a very dangerous man to control, as we've discovered. Yeah. In X-Men 2, when Stryker's son got in his head and made him like, he was going to kill everyone in the world or something.
Starting point is 00:46:19 That's right, yeah. Kill all the mutants. Yeah. I think Purple Man's got this. Yes. I'm going to say, well, see, that's the thing i think i think prophet again they perceive the other one as a threat yeah i think professor x would pause long enough right yeah for this version yeah i think it would pause long enough for the pheromones to sort of wash over it yeah and then be like kill yourself yeah exactly yeah run run over your own neck my question then i think would be does professor x have enough psychics like just mental stamina to overcome that no i'm gonna say
Starting point is 00:46:53 yes though really yeah why do you say when have you ever seen him break a mental bond on himself that's actually a really good point now that i think about it comics yes yes definitely yep in x2 yep he he manages to break out of that psychic bond briefly that he's under yep that being said he goes he goes back under straight away but also he's not able to stop like i think movie wise it's going to be killgrave no okay what i was going to say as well professor x could maybe break the psychic bond but again this isn't this is pheromones. Yes. So he's never seen that before.
Starting point is 00:47:27 What about this one? It's from Daniel. Okay. King Leonidas of 300 not historically versus Captain America. He says both have
Starting point is 00:47:35 six shields and unclear advantage strength and durability. Unclear advanced. Yes. Sorry strength and durability. Which is true. They both have
Starting point is 00:47:44 super ripped bods. Oh, yes. Would you say Leonidas is like peak physical condition in the terms of Captain America? Oh, in the same way that Captain America is. Yeah. He's more ripped. He's more ripped. He's definitely bigger.
Starting point is 00:47:56 But he's probably got like... Weird shrunken balls from all his steroid use. Yes, that. And he's also probably got dysentery. Yeah, that's true. He's also bare got dysentery. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. He's also barefoot. He's barefoot.
Starting point is 00:48:08 That's true. Yeah. In the comics, he's also naked, I believe. Oh. They're all naked. Well, that's embarrassing. So that's points against him. Well, for part of it, he is at least anyway.
Starting point is 00:48:19 So they both have shields. Yep. Captain America's shield is obviously, can do things that Leonidas' shield cannot do. Yep. Leonidas can take a bunch of arrows and then use his spear to swipe them off. Yep. And it looks super cool. Points for drama.
Starting point is 00:48:33 Points for drama. But I think Captain America's shield could split his shield in half. Yes. Because it's all like a Greek forgery. It's probably made of bronze or some balls material. Yeah. Like, I doubt it's going to do greek forgery it's probably made of bronze or some balls material yeah like i doubt it's gonna you know do any do any damage yeah it's captain america faster well you would be
Starting point is 00:48:51 wouldn't he i'd say it would be yeah he's got that lean muscle yes that's true he's got that yeah the runner's muscle that's true yeah i could i'm imagining leonidas running in and doing a leap with a spear yeah and then captain then Captain America deflecting it. Uh-huh. And then just knocking him out with one punch. One superhuman, enormous punch. I think it'd take more than one. More than one punch.
Starting point is 00:49:12 I think this is them going to the ground. Okay, sure. Yeah. Rolling around. Yes. Sounds very erotic. I'm sure somebody's thought about this. It's on the R rating board.
Starting point is 00:49:22 It's on the R rating board in the movie. It's like Leonidasardo leonidas versus chris evans naked wrestle so what shields come off i think so and it's just hand to hand yeah okay so if we're talking prime captain america we're talking age of ultron we're talking winter soldier yeah where he's had some modern combat training correct yep leonidas is all like, get in a weird turtle formation. Like, that's his... Yep, that's right. You know, don't break ranks or whatever.
Starting point is 00:49:50 Like, whenever people do break ranks in those movies, they generally get a whole lot of arrows in them. Yes, they do. Yeah. Make the turtle. Or whatever, you know. Form the crab. That's right.
Starting point is 00:50:03 Just amphibious animals. That's all we got. I think if there were four Spartans. Yes. Oh, maybe even not. There are not, though. Yeah, there's not. But I'm saying I think he could have some kind of maneuver.
Starting point is 00:50:15 Oh, sure. You know what I mean? Like he'd be able to form the crab or the turtle or whatever. Yeah. But aside from that, I think on his own, the 300, the advantage of that army is that they've got tactics and they work as a unit. Yes. On their own, they're still quite skilled. They're always fighting in pits of dirt as children or wrestling bears in the woods or whatever.
Starting point is 00:50:35 But I feel like they're more strength in numbers and tactics. And Captain America specializes in close combat, hand-to-hand stuff. Also, maybe he has a gun. He could certainly have a gun. He generally does it, though, doesn't he? No, that's true. But he would pick one up if he needed to. No guns on the field.
Starting point is 00:50:52 No win, no guns on the field. Unless you come with a gun. Unless you come with a gun. That's right. Like Batman. Correct. So who do you think, though? I'm going to go Captain America.
Starting point is 00:51:02 Yeah. I think that's the... Would he kill him? I don't think he would. See, that's the thing. I also think that if we're saying Captain America, like prime Captain America, he sort of weaned himself off killing people.
Starting point is 00:51:14 He has, yeah. He didn't kill Batroc the Leaper. He didn't kill Batroc the Leaper. He didn't kill any of those. I mean, he probably killed some of those people that he kicked off the side of the ship. You know what I mean? Sure, yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:23 He probably killed those aliens, but they don't count. No, they certainly don't. Also, he went hand-to-hand with Ultron on side of the ship. You know what I mean? Sure, yeah. Probably killed those aliens, but they don't count. No, they certainly don't. Also, he went hand-to-hand with Ultron on top of a truck. It's true. See, Leonidas do that. Yeah. He'd be pasted. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:34 I want to see that fight. They both, Ultron and Leonidas, appear end-to-end on a truck on the speeding freeway. Right. Because Leonidas would take, like, I don't know, he wouldn't be able to take it all in, and he'd fall off. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:45 And that would be the end of that. What is this? And then he'd hit an overpass probably. Just head and overpass. That's it. You got one? Also, you know, that being said, if it came to the ground and Leonidas got to Captain America's shield,
Starting point is 00:52:00 I think he'd behead him with it. Yeah, sure he would. Like old man Logan. Yeah. Yeah, totally. How. Like old man Logan. Yeah, totally. How about this? We often talk, in previous ones we've said no doubles.
Starting point is 00:52:11 We're not going to double up. So we can't be like, oh, Captain America. But here's one. This is Jaden Chivers on Twitter. He said Chris Evans as pre-Juice Steve Rogers in Captain America versus John Krasinski as Jim in The Office. That's a good one. Because, look, in the one- Jim from The Office was nearly Captain America.
Starting point is 00:52:31 Was a bully, yeah. Like, Jim, yeah, I guess he is a bully. That's what I'm saying. Like, on the one hand, we've got Steve Rogers, like, we've got Steve Rogers pre-Captain America. He's the little guy. Yeah. He's got our physique.
Starting point is 00:52:42 Yes, that's right, yep. Like, but he's a scrappy fighter. Scrappy, yes. But on the other hand, we've got guy. Yeah. He's got our physique. Yes, that's right. Yep. But he's a scrappy fighter. Scrappy, yes. But on the other hand, we've got Jim. Yeah. Who, again, is kind of an office bully. Yeah, but Jim only targets people he doesn't like. Right.
Starting point is 00:52:56 That being said, in the scenario, he would not like Steve Rogers. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So they appear opposite ends of a football field. Correct. Jim would have to fashion some kind of prank. But a lot of his pranks are like their months of planning. Yep. Like the time that he made an exact copy of Dwight's clothes,
Starting point is 00:53:15 but he made them like Velcro tear off. Oh, yeah. That's right. You can't arrive with that. You can't put someone's stapler in jelly, like make it in front of him. Do you see what I'm saying? No, I see what you're saying. But he might have some passive-aggressive put-downs.
Starting point is 00:53:27 He definitely would have some passive-aggressive put-downs. Yeah. But they're fighting, obviously. But I think also Krasinski, he's a good enough man that he wouldn't go to physical insults. No. He wouldn't be like, you little shrimp man. Yeah, that's true, actually. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:43 But I think he'd have a very good line in just holding Chris Evans' head, like holding his forehead at arm's length, and just having Steve Rogers just swing wildly at him. That being said, like Chris Evans' Captain America pre-serum would never stop. That's true, yeah. So I think it'd have to come to a point where jim would have to incapacitate him yes but he rare like you said he rarely there's a goes to is there ever a scuffle in the uh there's he slaps dwight in one episode right i think he gets shoved up against the wall
Starting point is 00:54:15 by like pam's fiancee at some point but he doesn't like right back i don't think he's ever okay been in a physical confrontation yeah He's good at basketball. There's an episode where they play basketball. No basketball on a football field. No wind. No basketball. None of the third thing. No guns.
Starting point is 00:54:34 No guns. Steve Rogers doesn't carry a gun generally. No. If it was Dwight from The Office, it would be over very quickly because Dwight has a series of ninja stars and nunchucks on him at all times. So definitely Dwight has a series of like ninja stars and nunchucks on him at all times. So definitely Dwight. But no, I think John Krasinski would just, he would be amused and he would win. He would just be smug and amused. John Krasinski would win, do you think?
Starting point is 00:54:55 Yeah. Jim from The Office would win, do you think? Eventually. Wow. Because I think he'd get him in a headlock until he passed out or something like that. Oh, maybe. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:55:04 Yeah. Okay. That. Yeah, okay. Yeah, okay. That's a good point. I think maybe Steve could get a lucky punch in, maybe. He'd break his wrists. He's all brittle. Yeah, but I mean... He's probably got polio still. He's probably still got polio.
Starting point is 00:55:17 That's actually a really good point. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, who would grab a bit of dirt and just fling it in the other guy's eyes first? Steve Rogers. Steve Rogers would do that. Definitely. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:28 He's not a dirty fighter, but he'll take advantage of the environment. Yeah. Yeah. I wonder if he's... I feel like little Steve Rogers has done some boxing. Right, okay, yeah. I reckon he does have some fighting abilities, but he doesn't have strength on his side. He's got basic army training. Yeah, he's got... Well, yeah he doesn't have strength on his side. He's got basic army training.
Starting point is 00:55:45 Yeah, he's got... Well, yeah, eventually. Yeah. Sure. So you're still saying Jim from the office? Yeah, how can you just get him in a headlock and he'd pass out? Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:55 I reckon it's Steve Rogers. On grit alone? On handfuls of dirt? Handfuls of dirt and a couple of lucky punches, yeah. Okay. Because I don't think Jim's ever been in a real fight. He's never been in a street fight in an alley. He has to get a garbage can lid and make a makeshift shield out of it.
Starting point is 00:56:11 It's never happened to him. I can't argue with that. That's right, yeah. I cannot argue with that. Yeah. What about this one? I'm ready. This is from Stefan.
Starting point is 00:56:19 Kratos versus Alex Mercer. Okay, so Kratos from the God of War game series. Famous for their sex mini games great and alex mercer from the prototype series yeah i think just the first one i never played he's the villain in the second one in the second one spoiler alert sorry sorry mate uh so kratos is obviously filled with rage and uh kratos at full ability he would be a god okay he becomes the god of war spoiler alert at the end of part one right okay and then he gets stripped of his powers but even then he keeps getting new weapons off people right like he tears off somebody's feet and has like winged shoes sure you know and whatever you know he maybe beats up a three-headed dog that's pretty hard i've never
Starting point is 00:57:01 done it alex mercer though can absorb you entirely but would that work on a greek god i wouldn't because he can't absorb like so alex mercer is essentially a biological infection that walks like a man yeah like it that has the memories of of the original alex so he can he can like consume and absorb regular humans. Yes. But he can't do that to the bigger creatures. There's a lot of genetically engineered giant monsters and stuff. He can't absorb them. So I would say he can't absorb Kratos.
Starting point is 00:57:34 Yep, fair enough. And how many limbs can Alex Mercer lose? None, really. Because he'd grow them back? Well, he doesn't lose limbs in that game. Like, he's never lost a limb. There's just a weird spray of blood whenever he makes a big claw hand or something, and then... Precisely. And then he...
Starting point is 00:57:50 How do you kill that guy? How do you kill him in Part 2? I can't remember. I know Kratos can be stabbed to death. Okay, sure. You take, like, a magical blade or whatever. Yeah. Well, in the first one, he's pretty much not completely mortal.
Starting point is 00:58:05 Okay, so what level of Kratos are we talking about? I feel Godhood is unfair. Okay. Like full Godhood is an unfair level. But he goes Godhood, but then he gets stronger than that as well. Oh, sure, okay. Because he starts off not regular human, but he's a bit above regular human. He's got some of the blades of Olympus and whatever.
Starting point is 00:58:21 These ones. Yeah, the whippy-chainy ones. The whippy-chainy ones. And then he becomes a God of War and then he gets those powers stripped and he's back to square one. Okay. And then he earns all those powers back and he just takes the power from each God as he goes.
Starting point is 00:58:32 So he's killing gods up to Zeus. Uh-huh. And then he kills Zeus. Spoiler alert for God of War 3. Alex Mercer I don't think could. Well, Alex Mercer is essentially a god, I guess. No. You don't reckon? No, he's just a. at fighting he's good at fighting troops he's good at fighting
Starting point is 00:58:50 tanks yep he's good at fighting helicopters sure but you know what we say about this this bloody scenario there's no tanks there's no there's very few basketball games that's right none of those things so there's no guns on the field that's true so then it's Kratos then it's Kratos yeah what a ridiculous scenario unlike all these other ones I mean I guess if it's a like if it's a douchebag off who wins there Kratos
Starting point is 00:59:14 it's still Kratos he's so unpleasant yeah unlike him I don't know anyone's like he's such a great character he's not he's the worst he's horrible
Starting point is 00:59:21 yeah I like some of his games okay they get a bit samey. I didn't play the last one. Even the PSP ones are quite good actually. What if it's a running up
Starting point is 00:59:29 walls off? Then Alex Messer definitely. Alex is very good at that. You know what? The guys who made Prototype made the incredible Hulk
Starting point is 00:59:36 Ultimate Destruction. Love the same mechanics. I love that game. It's real good, right? It's real good, isn't it? You got another one or I got one here? Okay, here's this one. Look, I like this one for the wording more than anything else. It's real good, right? It's real good, isn't it? You got another one? I got one here. Okay, here's this one.
Starting point is 00:59:45 Look, I like this one for the wording more than anything else. Good. This is from at Rory McSweeney on Twitter. Yep. It says, hey, Mr. Sunday Movies and Wikipedia Brown. Hello. Do Martian Manhunter versus The Vision, they're both out of touch flying guys. Now, I know where you're going with that.
Starting point is 01:00:02 They're both, they both have the ability to turn intangible. Correct. But I like the idea that they're both out of touch. I thought he genuinely meant that they're out of touch. They're just kind of like above everything else and they see like the big picture. They're kind of like, I'm not of this world. They're out of touch with pop culture. You're a human problem.
Starting point is 01:00:20 Yeah, exactly. In a way, their powers are a metaphor. For? For them being like not up to date with current music and stuff that's true yeah okay they probably don't know what kanye did at the grammys that's right yeah i don't know what he did at the grammys uh okay so this works on a lot of levels oh god uh the problem with these guys who just have every power yes i just don't even know where to start right they're just phasing in and out of each other what are they doing yeah look i would say because like they're like they both can employ
Starting point is 01:00:50 the trick where they sort of phase their hand through somebody and then unphase it slightly and that person like just does a seizure or whatever yeah it seems very unpleasant martian mana can can read minds right can't read the visions i was gonna say can he read an android's mind yeah uh okay what else can I do? Martian manhunt can shapeshift. Useless. But again, useless because what can he do? He can become a big monster or whatever.
Starting point is 01:01:10 Yeah. He can become intangible again. See, now I don't even know any of them. They can both fly. Yep. Who cares? Great. Good.
Starting point is 01:01:18 Great. What else? They're both bloody love humanity or whatever invisible who cares vision could probably still see him yeah that's true i'm saying for red vision yeah probably so it becomes a bloody laser off this is just two lasers shooting at each other right and one's a tech-based laser i guess yeah and one's martian martian bloody vision laser. Does Martian Manhunter splatter when you hit him? Sometimes, yeah. I feel if he's not paying attention, he'll splatter.
Starting point is 01:01:50 Yeah, yeah. But I feel like he would be paying attention. Yes. Vision can't read minds, can he? No. If you're a machine, he can put his hand on you and bloody read your mind. Oh, sure, yeah. Useless.
Starting point is 01:02:01 Useless. There's no machines on a football field. No Atari 2600s on the field they're out of touch they don't know they don't know the players playstation 4s they don't know they're both also like they look at humanity as like the big picture kind of thing yeah they'd probably have an existential crisis yeah i don't know vision because he's i reckon it's vision because he's got the stone in his head he's got the stone in his head? He's got the stone in his head and also Martian Mantis is afraid of fire. Oh, right.
Starting point is 01:02:27 Yeah. Okay. We should have gone to that straight away. Yeah. You're right. So I would say it's going to be a bloody laser off. Until Vision's on fire. I mean, until Martian Mantis is on fire.
Starting point is 01:02:37 Exactly. If he goes intangible, does the fire hurt him? Yes. I think it breaks out of his intangibility. Oh, that's not very good, is it? Yeah, so I think, yeah. Okay, well, there you go. We've bloody done it, haven't we?
Starting point is 01:02:48 We have, yes. What about this one? I'm ready. You gave me this one. This is from DrRock12 and DrFumbles. Two distinguished medical practitioners. They've both given this one. A blind Hawkeye versus one-armed Green Arrow.
Starting point is 01:03:04 So it's blind Hawkeye from Old Man Logan. Correct. It's not Jeremy Renner Hawkeye who's been blinded. Yes. This guy is like borderline superhuman. Yes. He's like Daredevil with a bow and arrow, basically. And one-armed Green Arrow is actually coming up
Starting point is 01:03:20 in the future episode of Legends of Tomorrow next week. They previewed it. Stephen Amell's got the goate of Legends of Tomorrow next week. Yeah. They previewed it. Stephen Amell's got the goatee. He's got the goatee. He looks very homeless. He sure does. Let me tell you. And so it's, yeah, so it's Green Arrow from Dark Knight Returns.
Starting point is 01:03:33 Yeah. He's lost an arm in some sort of Superman-based scenario. Yeah, yeah. I think it's a bomb. Okay, right. I think it's a bomb. Yeah. And I think it was Superman saved him, but in the process he lost his arm.
Starting point is 01:03:43 Right, okay, yeah. And, oh, I feel like the Green Arrow is in a very kind of grounded, he's a very grounded version of that character in a way. Yep. Like you don't really see him do anything completely impossible except for fire an arrow with his teeth. Sure, yeah. But how quickly could blind Hawkeye kill him like who's who's firing an arrow quicker
Starting point is 01:04:07 yeah the guy with one arm who fires with his teeth the guy with both his arms who's blind yeah that felt like a lot of effort like yeah like it seemed like he he fires he fires an arrow while hanging upside down from a fire escape yes his teeth yes which is very impressive yeah but i don't think he winged that i think it was think it was like, this is how this is going to happen. Yeah. I better plan this out. Totally. I can't do this.
Starting point is 01:04:31 Mm. Mm. That's exactly it. You're saying Hawkeye's quicker off the mark. He's way quicker off the mark. And also, look, they're both willing to kill each other. Yeah, definitely. There's no question there.
Starting point is 01:04:41 Yeah. And this is first one off the mark. First one off the mark. And it's Hawkeye. That's right. Yeah. Then again, he is pretty nimble, the future Green Arrow. Yeah. And this is first one off the mark. First one off the mark. And it's Hawkeye. That's right. Yeah. Then again, he is pretty nimble, the future green arrow. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:49 But he's also- He can hang off that fire escape. He can hang off the bloody, the bloody football, the bloody, the bloody goalposts. Do you think there's any disadvantage- It would look pretty obvious though. No, for sure. Well, he is blind, so it wouldn't matter. But do you think there's any disadvantage to that version of Hawkeye being blind?
Starting point is 01:05:03 Because I don't feel there is. Yeah, but I don't feel there is. disadvantage to that version of hawkeye being blind because i don't feel there is yeah but i don't feel there is he's still got the hawkeye he's got amazing he's still he's still an amazing shot yeah he goes by sound and he's still incredible how quiet is green arrow well there's grass it's a little bit rustly isn't it a little bit rustly exactly yeah yeah maybe if he didn't move yeah but i feel like you'd at least hear the quiver. The arrow would clack as it comes out. Yeah, that's true. The sound of his mouth opening.
Starting point is 01:05:31 Would that give Green Arrow enough time? Like if he's totally silent, he waits for Hawkeye to turn his back for a second. Because Hawkeye's going to need a fraction of a second to get his bearings right. He's blind. He'd be like, this is a football field. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:46 Wait. Football stadium. That's what he'll say. Yeah. I don't know if he's, but do you think Green Arrow would know that he's blind? No. Wait, does he wear a bandage around his eyes? No, he's got glasses.
Starting point is 01:05:59 Oh. Yeah. Probably just think he's cool then. I mean, this is like this. The last scenario was two guys who were very out of touch. These guys are very in touch. That's true. They're hip cats.
Starting point is 01:06:11 Let's just go through the mechanics of pulling out, firing an arrow with one arm and your teeth. So he pulls it out. He's got his quiver over his shoulder. Yes. Because he'll need to, because he needs his free arm to grab the arrow. Yep.
Starting point is 01:06:23 So he grabs the arrow out, puts it in his teeth, takes the quiver off, holds it out. Yep. Then he grabs the arrow out, puts it in his teeth, takes the quiver off, holds it out. Yep. Then somehow, having the quiver in his hand, takes the arrow out and positions it in his teeth and then positions it in the bow and then pulls his head back, which is what I'm doing now. Fire, sad, fire away. Theatre of the mind, everyone.
Starting point is 01:06:40 And then fires the arrow. Yes. That's... Even if he's the best in the world at that that's three seconds yes it is he's dead yeah it's hawkeye okay great that was hard to even think about you got one uh i've got a good one it's a short one okay i'm ready in the meantime this is from alex scrooge mcduck versus bruce Wayne. He specifies not Batman, Bruce Wayne. I mean...
Starting point is 01:07:06 Well, it's a man versus a duck, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. They're both rich, but I don't think Bruce Wayne would care about killing a duck. Maybe a sentient duck. No, he'd care about killing a sentient duck. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:18 Do you think you'd have to pretend that he's not skilled to keep his identity? No, no, because there's nobody... This is a football field. It's not like the Gotham football field. It's not the G, C, F. In any case, like, yeah, thank you. In any case, even if that were the case,
Starting point is 01:07:37 they're like, oh, look, it's socialite Bruce Wayne fighting some sort of weird duck monster. Like, I think it'd be fine if Bruce Wayne just, like, choked him out. Yeah, definitely. They'd be like, Alfred, help. You watch a lot of DuckTales. Yes. With the podcast, It's a Duck Blur.
Starting point is 01:07:50 Correct. We've watched at least two. Numerous times. Yeah. Yep. Did, what's... Oh, which reminds me, this week, I should have mentioned up top, this week I make a return appearance on the podcast Beer Eye with Your Mates Guys.
Starting point is 01:08:01 Nice. Which is a podcast where my friend Murphy McLaughlin, comedian, gets a whole bunch of mates guys together and we drink a beer and we talk about stuff i don't drink beer i drink cider it's addressed in the show stop bringing it up anyway have a good old time you should everybody should listen to that did you again this time promise that they'd get the most downloads ever or did they make that promise uh it was made it was made after the show had finished recording to somebody else who was on the show. Right. Who has previously been on all his least downloaded episodes.
Starting point is 01:08:30 So if everybody can again download this episode. Even if you don't listen to it. Doesn't matter. Prove a point. Just to prove a point about internet celebrities. Be right with your mates. Be right with your mates, guys. Guys.
Starting point is 01:08:44 I love the name. He chokes out the duck. But what skills does... How fast is Scrooge McDuck? He's a duck. He can't fly, can he? Well, he's probably got like a coat on. I've never seen a duck fly in that show.
Starting point is 01:08:59 No, that's true. He's got a cane. He's got a cane, that's true. He could probably give Bruce Wayne a good couple of whacks on the shin. Definitely. But again, it's true. He's got a cane. He's got a cane. That's true. He could probably give Bruce Wayne a good couple of whacks on the shin. Definitely. But again, it's man versus duck. It is man versus duck.
Starting point is 01:09:09 And man always wins. So true. Man's the most dangerous duck of all. In a way. In a way, right? You got that one ready? Oh, all right. How about this from Hyper Evisceration?
Starting point is 01:09:21 We talked about Evisceration before. It's dangerous. Stop it. Nightwing versus Winter Soldier. So that's two sidekicks. It's a sidekick versus sidekick battle. I would say they've evolved past that being sidekick. Nope, still sidekicks.
Starting point is 01:09:32 If you're like, it's Bucky versus Robin. Yep. Wasn't Bucky like a secret assassin? Yeah, he was a bad guy. Yeah. I mean, originally, like, you know, he was just... I was like, let's go, Cup. Let's have fun.
Starting point is 01:09:43 I'm a fun guy. I'm a little kid in really dangerous wartime scenarios for no reason, and the government approves this. What's going on? But then when Ed Brubaker started writing the Captain America series, he was like, why would you have a kid in that scenario? Because he's like an assassin. He's been, for whatever reason, this kid has been trained to like do all the terrible things
Starting point is 01:10:08 that Captain America is unwilling to do or they don't want to show him. Dig the latrines. Yeah, dig the latrines. Exactly. Or like, you know, poison a town's water supply. Yeah, yeah. Like Captain America comes in and he's like,
Starting point is 01:10:19 we're going to smash the Nazis. And he beats up some soldiers. But like Bucky will get on a rooftop and shoot a store owner or whatever because he's supplying food to the Nazis and he beats up some soldiers, but like Bucky will get on a rooftop and shoot a store owner or whatever because he's supplying food to the Nazis or whatever, you know? Absolutely. So, yeah. So they both moved on. Definitely.
Starting point is 01:10:35 I think Bucky would definitely defeat Robin. Robin? Yeah. Yeah, sure. I'd agree with that. Dick Grayson, Robin. He'd kill him straight away. But what about Nightwing?
Starting point is 01:10:42 Yeah. Okay. Nightwing is like, I would say Nightwing is... I think Nightwing could go toe-to-toe with Batman. Yeah. I don't think he could win. Yep. But I think he would probably...
Starting point is 01:10:52 He's one of the ones who could... He's been trained by Batman. Yep. He's younger than Batman. He's arguably faster. He's faster than Batman. Yeah. Better acrobat.
Starting point is 01:11:01 He can do three somersaults or something. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, so... he's got that advantage I guess over Winter Soldier Winter Soldier's got the metal arm that flies off and chokes you though sure yeah
Starting point is 01:11:13 it's true I wonder if it can still do that I bet it can it's yet to do that again like it only did it the once I feel it doesn't mean that it can't do it alright
Starting point is 01:11:20 but would you see that's the thing though if he like the scenario in which you take your arm off yeah like he's he's losing that arm he's not getting it back i'm feeling he's not getting it back like i'd say if he if he like jettisons the arm it flies across the football field yeah and it goes to choke nightwing nightwing gets out like he's like a taser like the batons which like a zap zaps him.
Starting point is 01:11:45 And then the arm's out for the count. That's true. And then it's just Nightwing fighting a guy with one arm, which is, you know, you know what I mean? Not going to go well. No. So do you think Nightwing has this? I think maybe Winter Soldier's a better fist fighter.
Starting point is 01:11:59 I'm going to say, but that's the thing. I'm saying he's not going to take the arm off. It's not going to happen. No, no, no, I don't agree with that. And I'm, look. That's not his go-to move, is it? That's not his go-to move, exactly. To shoot.
Starting point is 01:12:08 I mean, Winter Soldier often has guns. That's true. I'm going to say he's got a gun. Yeah. He's definitely got a gun. But I still don't feel that that would be a problem for Nightwing. Yeah. I think he'd still be able to maneuver quickly enough.
Starting point is 01:12:20 Yeah, he's fast enough. And I think he could take a couple of strays. Yeah, definitely. Suits bulletproof. Yeah. What are his sticks called Suits bulletproof. Yeah. What are his sticks called? Tonfa sticks. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:29 Do you think that beats a metal arm? No. No? I don't think it does. I think he loses them all. Like I think when they get to a close in fight, he loses those almost immediately. Don't you think he'd be able to zap his arm and like disable it?
Starting point is 01:12:41 I'm going to say not if it's. No, I'm going to say that that it's... I'm going to say that trick to me would only work if it's not connected. I don't know why. You see Captain America... I think Black Widow throws a thing on us. That's true, he does. That's a movie version. It's different.
Starting point is 01:12:57 Let's throw that rule in. That's fine. I think that would only be a temporary thing as well. Would Winter Soldier be able to fight him off with one arm as his arm gets reboots? Yeah. Okay. Do you still think it's Winter Soldier? I think it's a long fight.
Starting point is 01:13:14 Yeah. I think if Winter Soldier got him around the neck with his metal arm, it wouldn't matter how many times Nightwing hit him. Yes. Because that arm works on its own accord. Yes. So he'd just be locked into it. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:13:25 So I think if it came down to that, a man choking another man with a metal arm, as it often does, then that would be the case.
Starting point is 01:13:33 Yeah, I reckon if it gets into that far, it's Winter Soldier. I reckon Nightwing could probably take it ranged. He'd win ranged,
Starting point is 01:13:42 I think. Or if he jumps up that bloody goalpost. Which he would. Just bloody Batarang'd him. Nightwing would. Just bloody Batarang'd him. Nightwing-arang'd him. Nightwing-arang'd him.
Starting point is 01:13:49 Nightwing-agassigar-anade him. I'm not convinced that Winter Soldier would win. Okay. Give me your best interpretation why he wouldn't. Just getting punched a lot. Oh, sure. He's very resilient, though. It's true.
Starting point is 01:14:03 He's borderline superhuman true he's borderline superhuman he's borderline pain proof but you gotta look at the people that Nightwing has gone up against as well like all manner of like you know you kill a Croc and you're Mr. Freeze like he's fought people
Starting point is 01:14:15 much stronger than he is yes but Croc's a lot slower that's true Winter Soldier's pretty quick yeah Mr. Freeze he's just cracking with a can of soup, which is what Batman did in the animated series.
Starting point is 01:14:28 Yeah. Yeah. Why do you have that can of soup on him? Because he's Batman, I guess. Yeah, that's right. Does that mean Batman always has a can of soup on him? We've got to go back and factor that in now. God, I didn't think about that.
Starting point is 01:14:40 Yeah, I'm not convinced, but yeah, I guess I have to concede. Yeah, I think it's going to be winter soldier i'd like it to be nightwing i feel he's a better character yeah he's a better character and he has more pedigree in terms of in terms of he's been around longer yeah like bucky's i mean bucky's been around since the 40s but he's been in stasis for like that's true 60 years or whatever that's a good point yeah Yeah. I'd like to be Nightwing, but I think it's Winter Soldier. All right. I've got a few more here, but what are we?
Starting point is 01:15:11 We're on short on time, so we'll save them up. I've got some of his saves, so we'll get to them next time. Do you want to do any more? How about this? Check a Riyahi on Twitter. Bruce Wayne's parents versus Tony Stark's parents. You know who's quicker to be dead off? Yes.
Starting point is 01:15:25 But all right. First of all, this is probably unfair, but Martha Wayne's done and Mrs. Stark, they don't do anything. They're non-characters, essentially. In one reality, Martha Wayne becomes the Joker. Not this one, though. Not this one, okay. They're standing by the sidelines clutching their pearls. It's Howard Stark versus Thomas Wayne. not this one okay they're standing by the sidelines clutching their pearls it's howard stark versus
Starting point is 01:15:45 thomas wayne thomas wayne i feel like batman's the size of thomas wayne alone gives him the advantage like he's not really he's a he's not i don't imagine he's a heavy drinker yep he's a doctor he looks like he's probably worked out a little bit or he's got like 1950s fitness yep and i would say even though it's not the 50s again if these guys are like pulled randomly from their realities
Starting point is 01:16:08 and placed here I would say there's an 80% chance Howard Stark is drunk yeah sure yep and do we ever see Howard Stark in a fist fight
Starting point is 01:16:16 he avoids confrontation he's always like hey doll I'm just trying to make a movie that's what he's doing in the current season he has like he's a guy who builds
Starting point is 01:16:23 a lot of deadly gadgets yes but the odds of him actually having one on him yeah slim to none yeah he's not tony stark in that way he doesn't have a watch that becomes an iron man glove does he that's right that would be pretty sweet though yeah i'm trying to think has he ever had any kind of useful tech on him in the show in agent carter yeah i don't think so no a lot of his tech doesn't work either have you noticed that yeah it's like a vest that explodes or something. It is, yeah. No, I think it's Thomas Wayne.
Starting point is 01:16:50 Thomas Wayne has courage also. Yeah, that's true. Like he'll step in front of a bullet. Like he doesn't care. Yeah. Yeah. So, and then what? Martha Wayne and... What's Tony Stark's mother's name?
Starting point is 01:17:00 Can't remember. I don't remember that. She's not really... She's not in it much, is she? No, that's true, yeah. She hasn't even been cast in the MCU or anything. Yeah. Maria Stark.
Starting point is 01:17:07 Maria Stark, okay, yeah, yeah. I don't know what she can even do. I don't know enough about her. I think they would just snipe at each other. Okay. Like passive-aggressively. Are they both? Like real, like, oh, I love how you just wear anything.
Starting point is 01:17:20 A bit of that, like a real... Isn't Martha Wayne like a humanitarian though? Yeah, that's true yeah but what's maria probably a drunk probably a drunk also i i feel like she'd be a pretty sassy lady to tame howard stark though yeah she would have to have been because he's like i'm dating four models at once i don't care that's actually very true she's probably good in a fistfight yeah i'm gonna give it to maria stark done in your your face, Martha. That's right. You know, when you clutch at your pearls while your teeth are kicked in.
Starting point is 01:17:49 All right. You got one more? Sure, we'll do it. We can do one more. This one's from Tanner. It just says, Mad Max Fatal 4-Way. So what he's saying is it's the four different Mad Maxes. And they essentially are.
Starting point is 01:18:03 Yeah. I mean, they're technically supposed to be the same character. You could say they're all different characters. They're all from different universes. Yeah, it does feel like that. All right, let's finish with this four. Okay. So you look at the first one from the first Mad Max movie.
Starting point is 01:18:16 He's done. He's got no skills. No skills. Gets his leg run over. Yeah. He's not that mad. He's not even that mad. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:24 Mad Max 2, next to the hardy Mad Max, is probably the most... Mad? Yeah. But he's also got the leg brace. Yeah. He's still in recovery. That's true. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:37 But he's pretty bloody mad. Yeah. Mad Max 3 has almost superhuman reflexes. Correct. He can catch things behind his head. Yep. He knows when somebody's in the room and he also has that weird springy fist fight with a big guy. That's true, yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:52 With a big guy with Down syndrome. On bungee cords, yeah. And Mad Max 4 is Tom Hardy. Correct. So three of these are Mel Gibson. Yes. Prime Mel Gibson. Yes.
Starting point is 01:19:04 Secretly racist Mel Gibson. Correct. Nobody knew. Yep. But Tom Hardy's British, so he has no power there. That's right. And Tom Hardy is, he looks real scary. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 01:19:15 He's the most physically active Max. He also has the leg brace. You can see it under his. But then Mad Max 3 has the leg brace. That's also true, yeah. They've all got a bung leg. Yeah. So, except for the first one.
Starting point is 01:19:27 Oh no, he gets his leg run over. He would get his leg run over. Does any of these, they all have the Mad Max car? Do all the people in the car? I know you said no vehicles. Because it's an integral part of the character.
Starting point is 01:19:35 I'm going to say, let's do one scenario yes, one scenario no. Okay. Yes, Tom Hardy's car gets flipped. Yeah, so he's out of the race. He's dead immediately Yep
Starting point is 01:19:46 I feel I feel if it's cars and it's a demolition derby Mad Max 2 cars get flipped as well Yeah And Mad Max 3, he has a donkey in a cart Yeah So he's not going to win, is he? I'm going to say
Starting point is 01:19:59 Yeah, look I'm going to say If it's a demolition derby It's them just driving their cars around And one's a donkey in a cart One's a donkey in a car I'm going to say if it's a demolition, it's them just driving their cars around. And one's a donkey in a car. One's a donkey in a car. I'm going to say... In a cart.
Starting point is 01:20:08 Yeah, okay. I'm going to say even though two flips his car, I feel two... Yeah. I feel two's the best driver probably. Yeah. Four. It's two versus four.
Starting point is 01:20:20 Four almost walks away from his crash. Yeah. Two doesn't. Two's real fucked up. Okay. Do you remember? Yeah, yeah. He's all like bung-eyed and stuff.
Starting point is 01:20:28 Okay, let's give it to... Demolition Derby, it's four. Unless they're all on Hungry Hungry Hippo style bungee cords, in which case it's three. I think it might even be one. Yeah? Because he's got... His body's not broken.
Starting point is 01:20:39 I guess that's true. Yeah, okay. He's used to a lot of street racing. Yeah, okay. I don't know whether that gives you an advantage in a football field. During a demolition derby. Yeah. And he's got probably the freshest car.
Starting point is 01:20:51 That's true, yeah. But then the other guys, they've got nothing to lose anymore. That's true. Yeah. And maybe that first man, Max, still has his family. Who's to say? Who is to say? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:02 Yeah. I might give it to one. one okay let's give it to one all right i'm not happy about it okay but in a non-vehicle fist fight yeah do any of the can two bring dog boy with the boomerang dog boy you can't bring dog boy you can't bring bruce spence in a little weird helicopter thing you can't bring charlie's the rod with a metal arm you can't bring the guy and he's butts exposed You can't bring the big monster man that might be the bloody the guy
Starting point is 01:21:28 from the first one but it isn't. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. I still think it's four. I mean, look what that guy went through. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 01:21:35 Like he had the most action. Yeah. Did he get shot? I don't think he gets shot, does he? He fights the giant guy. Yeah. Humongous or whatever his name is.
Starting point is 01:21:44 No, Humongous was in. I don't think he fights Humongous. No, he doesn't. Yeah. Yeah, okay. I think we'll give it to him. It's also a thing of like, if you can imagine like Rocky Balboa fighting like Rocky IV. Yes.
Starting point is 01:21:58 It's like a weird 80s cartoon guy versus a real guy kind of thing. That's very true, yeah. So like Mad Max 3 is the cartoon guy. Yeah. And Mad Max 4 is a real guy that's very true yeah so like mad max 3 is the cartoon guy yeah mad mac 4 is a real guy yeah so i have to give it to the real guy yeah i'd imagine mad max 4 yes would get on the goal post and just be swinging back and forth on it that's true i've forgotten there's taking dudes out forgotten there's bungee cords in 4 as well bungee cords are a recurring thing put it up on the board movie executives we want movies with bungee cords in four as well. Bungee cords is a recurring theme. Put it up on the board. Movie executives, we want movies
Starting point is 01:22:26 with bungee cords. Was Mad Max R-rated? It must have been, right? Fury Road? Yeah. I think so. Got a dude's face torn off so it probably was.
Starting point is 01:22:33 It came right off, didn't it? Bloody hell, that's a good movie, isn't it? Pretty good, right? Yeah. I think that's it. We'll definitely come back to this. Yeah, we'll come back.
Starting point is 01:22:40 I've got more to go so next time. Do you want to do any more? Like a quick one or do we leave it there? Captain Phasma versus Boba Fett. This is from Michael Pacholik on Twitter. Who's the crappest character?
Starting point is 01:22:50 Who's the crappest character? I guess Phasma's better because she gets thrown into a trash compactor and we assume she escapes. Yes, but also a lot of people assume that Boba Fett escapes. That's true. Canon we don't know. Canon we don't know. But also we don't know. No, we know Gwendolyn Christie is back for the Fett escaped. That's true. Canon, we don't know. Canon, we don't know. But also, we don't know.
Starting point is 01:23:05 No, we know Gwendolyn Christie is back for the next Star Wars. That's true, yeah. We know that for a fact. But I'd imagine that they're going to bring Boba Fett back. Yeah. Like, they can't not. They can't leave him in the embarrassing situation they left him in in Return of the Jedi.
Starting point is 01:23:19 But in a fight. Boba Fett's got... Well, you know what? Boba Fett can't fall into any pits. That's true. So maybe that's his one... He could fly into the side of the Fett can't fall into any pits that's true so maybe he could fly into the side of a goal post
Starting point is 01:23:27 and break his own neck that's true but okay we'd have to factor in the new canon for Boba Fett where he's very competent in the comics or do you just want to go
Starting point is 01:23:37 the movie version movies this says then he's shit as presented in current canon but then he says so just episode 5 to 7 right
Starting point is 01:23:44 yeah what does Phasma do we never say you do anything no she makes you take some orders people seem to people fear her i feel like she got to that position because she's probably good at it sure and i think she gave up the plans that she shut down the machine the death that's not the death star the star killer because she's like you don't have a chance at this. So it might as well. It doesn't matter. Right, right, okay. But you also have the theory that Boba Fett fumbled his way to the top.
Starting point is 01:24:10 Yes, I do. That's true, yeah. Like that it's just the cool outfit. It's like a tough guy at school who's just big because nobody's ever challenged him. Correct. Yeah. And maybe there's a little mouse droid that follows him around. He's like the Inspector Gadget.
Starting point is 01:24:22 But there's a little mouse droid that follows him around and fixes everything. inspector gadget when his little mouse droid follows him around and fixes everything and like and like you know he bumps over the the bounty the mercenary's trying to track down and then boba fett just shows up and then the chief's like you've done it again boba fett and he's like i sure did i'm the best i bloody did it also darth vader warns boba fett he no disintegrations. Yeah. Which says to me that Boba Fett disintegrated somebody either accidentally or on purpose in the past. And he shouldn't have done it. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I guess so.
Starting point is 01:24:54 Maybe Vader wasn't clear. Sure, yeah. He was like, can you bring me this guy? And he just brings him like a pile of ash. And he's like, dude, come on, you're better than this. Yeah. But I still think it's Phasma. Okay. She's probably a better shot as well.
Starting point is 01:25:07 All right. I don't think we see Boba Fett fire his gun or his rifle, blaster rifle. I'm sorry, everybody. It's okay. I'm trying to think. I think he raises it a few times, but we never see him shoot it. But then again, we never see Phasma do it either. We never see Phasma do anything besides get thrown into a trap.
Starting point is 01:25:24 You know what they both fall over i don't know i don't know you say that flies into the side of the break his own neck i don't know i feel yep and then phasma leans over to see what's going on and is incinerated by his it's just like she switched he hits a switch and he's like what's that do i wonder incinerated by the flamethrower done awesome but we look forward to seeing
Starting point is 01:25:47 what they do next in their movies alright you know what it's time for then oh it's time for our famous segment what we're reading what we're gonna read I said the whole thing
Starting point is 01:25:54 you did that's the theme song doesn't it I'm doing the theme what are we reading today there it is what are you bloody reading oh I finally got to did you talk about it What are we reading today? There it is.
Starting point is 01:26:06 What are you bloody reading? Oh, I finally got to. Did you talk about it last week? Have you been watching? Yarn Boy. I'll be talking about it. Yarn Boy. God. I've been watching Louis C.K.'s sitcom.
Starting point is 01:26:16 I haven't watched the second. How many episodes is it in? There's four out and I've watched three. Oh, my God. I've only watched one. So Louis C.K., for people who don't know, you probably know, stand-up comedian Louis C.K., for people who don't know, you probably know, stand-up comedian Louis C.K. has released... He's written, directed, produced and self-funded a sitcom
Starting point is 01:26:31 that he releases on his website. It's called Horace and Pete. It's about... It's him as Horace and Steve Ushami as Pete. Yep. And they both run like a downtrodden dive bar. That they hate. That they hate.
Starting point is 01:26:46 And they're just... And it's got Steve Buscemi, it's got Alan Alda, it's got Edie Falco, it's got a theme song by Paul Simon. Yes. And it's just... It's not a comedy so much. I mean, it's funny. It's kind of like a sad version of Cheers.
Starting point is 01:27:04 It's like sad comedy so much. I mean, it's funny. It's kind of like a sad version of Cheers. It's like sad Cheers. Because like when, so most people know Louis from his, you know, FX show Louis. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But prior to that, he also had a sitcom called Lucky Louis, which was on HBO. And it was basically like, this is a fun family sitcom, except it's a family who are just kind of struggling and they're not doing too well. It's like sad situations and they're poor and there's bad language and adult situations. But it's got like the set of like full house.
Starting point is 01:27:30 It's got the multi-camera set up and the audience and it didn't do well, but it's very interesting to watch. Yeah. Is it good though? It's pretty good. I've never seen it. But yeah, so this I guess is his take on Cheers, which is just a whole bunch of sad people in a bar. Drunks in a bar.
Starting point is 01:27:44 Just being drunk. Drinking watered down alcohol. Watered down alcohol and being racist and just thinking about better times and being sad. That's right. And it's really interesting. Yeah, totally. I love the first episode. First episode's five bucks, then one episode's two bucks.
Starting point is 01:27:56 Because people got upset. People got upset that a TV show he's made by himself and paid for himself starring like award-winning actors costs five bucks for an hour. Yeah. And so he's like, well, okay, well the next one's two bucks
Starting point is 01:28:12 and I'll just release them for three. Yeah. Because that's the standard price for... That's insanity. Yeah, it is, right? Just pay five bucks. It goes. But again,
Starting point is 01:28:19 if you go into it expecting fun, hilarious times, it's definitely not that. There are funny moments. Alan Alda is so good in that. Yeah, he is i love the the moment in the first one where the tax guy consults him he's like how much do you get paid he's like none of your business yeah like i take what i want from the till what i wonder about you know when you see somebody like alan alda here's a thought that i had yeah is it that he looks very good for his age and they age him up for this yeah does he look really old and they age him up for this? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:45 Or does he look really old and they de-age him when he does, like, a mainstream movie? That's a very good question. I'm going to look up Alan Alda. 2015. See what he looks like. Okay, good. You have to say 2015 because there wouldn't be enough pictures of him yet. Correct.
Starting point is 01:28:56 No, he looks good, man. He looks sharp. He must have been aged up. Yeah. Because they give him that sweater and he kind of hunches over. Yeah, true. I don't know what this picture is. Can you explain this? I'm going to knock
Starting point is 01:29:07 it he looks like he's got a bomb old Alan Alda with a bomb strapped to his neck it must be like like an episode of
Starting point is 01:29:16 24 or something yeah exactly I don't know but it doesn't I don't know anyway what you've been reading this week I watched a movie
Starting point is 01:29:23 I've been meaning to see for ages it's called Room it's not called The room right um if you don't know the premise all you really want to know is when you go in uh there's a girl and she's basically she's not a girl she's like mid-20s she's been she's not a girl she's not yet a woman that's right uh she's she's been kidnapped it's been made clear from from the. And she's been trapped in this room. And in the time in her being there and being kept by this guy, she's had a son to him. And it's them in this room.
Starting point is 01:29:53 And I don't know. If you haven't seen it, I don't really want to go into any more kind of detail with it. It's very harrowing, but also very uplifting. Is it set? Is it set? You don't have to save it to spoil it. Is it set after?
Starting point is 01:30:03 Is she released? Sorry, guys. The memory card got full and we stopped recording the podcast. We've had like 120 episodes of that memory card. No, no, I have been deleting it, but I just haven't done it in a while. No, no, that's a full, that's got 120 episodes on it. It had, I just deleted them all. Oh no! Yeah, so look, the room, just bloody, if you like a harrowing ordeal, bloody get into it.
Starting point is 01:30:26 We've got two harrowing recommendations. We certainly do. Do we watch anything fun this week? I watch something fun-ish. Walking Dead came back. Oh, yes. You're into it, aren't you? Nope.
Starting point is 01:30:35 I think you should watch just the back end of this season. You keep saying that. The back end. Just this from now. All right, fine. It's got a great opening. Okay. It's got an amazing opening.
Starting point is 01:30:44 What season is this? Five or something? I don't fucking know. It's got a great opening. Okay. It's got an amazing opening. What season is this? Five or something? I don't fucking know. It just goes forever. Great. It's just people meandering in the woods. It doesn't sound fun. It's not fun.
Starting point is 01:30:52 It's garbage. It's not that bad. Okay, great. It's weird. It's a weird mix of like, you know what? Otis Trailers did an Otis Trailer on it this week. Yes. And they really summed it up.
Starting point is 01:31:02 It's like there's like four or two or four really great episodes. Yes. There's like eight filler. And there's like three to six. Okay. Ones, which is pretty much what it is. And there's a lot of people like discussing,
Starting point is 01:31:13 they're like, we've got to do what's good for the community. And then he's like, I don't want to be in charge. And then he's like, I'm in charge. I have to say you're really selling it. Well,
Starting point is 01:31:20 you know, I just know, I just think it'd be interesting episode to talk about because it is one of the most popular shows in the world. shouldn't say it's crap it's not people are good in it like the special effects is amazing i just feel like this story wise it could it could be whittled down from however many episodes there are a season to like 10 like 10 really good ones right but they don't just goes forever makes a lot of money though and then there's amc's walking dead which goes on straight after and they talk about how great every episode
Starting point is 01:31:50 is or whatever which i've never seen anyway walking dead's back who cares you know what you know what it's time for what is it time for friend and let us think let's let us let us wait i was gonna say you were bloody on that today. I was bloody on that and then everything fell to pieces. Then I'm like, well, volume's down and then like. That sounded loud enough in these ones, mate. Okay, here we go. The classic one was. That bloke's got some good pipes, mate.
Starting point is 01:32:25 Yeah, he does. Yeah. All right. I've got some letters for the week. RKM, 424. That's it. This is from Peter K. Hey, the other week I remembered that you guys are Australian.
Starting point is 01:32:34 I wanted to ask you a question. What? But I probably forgot to do that, so I'll ask now. What do you think about Farscape, and do you think the series could ever return in a normal, non-comic book format? Given the current lack of quality space themed TV shows this era of
Starting point is 01:32:48 sci-fi is greatly missed from Peter Kay do you ever watch Farscape? Yeah it was too Muppety for me. Too Muppety? Yeah. It was filmed in Australia wasn't it? Yeah it was the home of Muppets. The home of a lot of our creatures look like Muppets don't they a lot of our animals. The Bilby looks like a Muppet. That's true remember they tried to
Starting point is 01:33:03 replace the Easter Bunny with the Easter bilby in Australia? Because they're like, the rabbit is a pest. The bilby is a national treasure. Who cares what a fucking, I've never seen a bilby. I've seen a lot of bloody. Put it on the bloody border. Kids want native Australian. No, we don't care.
Starting point is 01:33:19 We want the chocolate. That's right. Just give us chocolate. Just give us the bloody chocolate slurry. That's what we want. Just a bloody machine that shoots chocolate in our mouths. Do you remember the movie Hop where Russell Brand played the son of the Easter Bunny or voiced him? Yep.
Starting point is 01:33:33 He just wanted to be a drummer and he lived with James Marsden. Great. Maybe he could also rap because they all do. Yep. I never really saw it. You know who's a big fan of this though? My brother. The one you don't like.
Starting point is 01:33:45 Thank you. And he, there's a lot of parallels, apparently, between this and Guardians. Yeah, okay, I see that. Yeah. All right. I'm not saying it's stolen. My brother's saying that, though.
Starting point is 01:33:56 Wow. Let him hit him up. Yeah. That's right. But it's, I feel like if there was a window for this to come back it was around guardians and then they kind of missed it yeah i feel like with star wars and battle star maybe coming back and then another guardians there might be and another star trek tv series and a movie maybe that window is kind of opening up again but i think they need to get in before we get a bloody slew of them. Yes.
Starting point is 01:34:25 Also. Before Firefly comes back. Yes, exactly. Which is definitely going to happen very soon. Fingers crossed. I think it's going to have to be like a fresh start. If they're going to do a movie, a new series, it's going to have to be you don't have to know anything about these characters going in because it's too late for me.
Starting point is 01:34:43 It is. I'm not going back to the Jim Henson Creature Workshop weird looking Muppets situation. Me 2000 Muppets. I can't go back to it. I don't have the time. Or the patience. Or the patience. Or the energy.
Starting point is 01:34:54 Yeah. Or the foresight. None of those things. Yeah. So, no. No. No Farscape. Correct.
Starting point is 01:35:02 Soft reboot if it is. Yeah. Is that what you're saying? Not even soft reboot, but more like Serenity where you don't have to know any of the characters really. No. You can just go in fresh. But you learn to love them. You learn to love them, exactly.
Starting point is 01:35:13 Good stuff. But yeah, like I said, my brother's a big fan of that series and I know a lot of people are, especially if you love Muppets. This is from Thomas, at GeekySportsFan on Twitter. Would you rather see a Red Hood Batman solo movie or a Hush Batman solo movie? Bear in mind, we'll probably see both. I'd imagine.
Starting point is 01:35:31 Red Hood. Hush is too complicated. To do immediately? And also, that's the thing. Like, I don't... Hush's origin is... I don't like it. It's, again, the way...
Starting point is 01:35:45 Are we spoiling Hush, I guess? I guess. I'm sure we've done it before. Yeah. Like, the problem with Hush is that it was this weird mystery of who's Hush and then it turned out
Starting point is 01:35:54 Hush was the only new character introduced in that story. In Hush. In Hush, yeah, exactly. Well, obviously it's... Yeah. And they were like, oh, maybe it's going to be,
Starting point is 01:36:01 you know, maybe Jason Todd back from the dead and it wasn't. No, it wasn't. And that was... Yes, and it's... No's going to be you know maybe jason todd back from the dead yeah and it wasn't no it wasn't but then that was yes and it's not does then again canonically if they bring back if they're like is it jason todd they'd have to do it first nah i mean if they if they were doing a straight adaptation i guess that's true look i think i think red hood is better because we know there's a dead robin yes in this universe yep and so we can much more easily bring him back so
Starting point is 01:36:25 yeah i don't think anybody would be tricked by the hush twist yeah and also again nobody knows who hush is but everybody knows batman and robin even if you've never read a comic book or anything like that you know batman and robin yep and this might throw you for a loop yep but you'd be like oh it's a robin yep now he's now he's a villain isn't that a fun twist it's a Robin, now he's a villain. Isn't that a fun twist? It's a bloody Robin. Like we've seen, like we have been aware of this for years, but people who just go to the movies to have a fun time, they'd be like, what an amazing twist. What an amazing twist, exactly.
Starting point is 01:36:54 Yeah, that's a really good point. But you know what? That being said, Hush has a whole lot of good kind of showdowns between Batman and a bunch of supervillains. Yeah, yeah. That's true. Which would be cool to see. Like I'd like to see more of Batman's rogues gallery
Starting point is 01:37:06 and Hush would be a good opportunity to do that. Red Hood has a few, but it has like a maze of... But also I feel you could do that with Red Hood. Yeah, totally. You could just have him say, okay, I'm organizing these villains and I know Batman's secret identity, so I'm going to send all these villains at him.
Starting point is 01:37:22 You don't need Hush at all. That's a good point. Yeah, I agree. Should have just made him Robin in the first place. In your face. Do you reckon they did when they were like, shit. Yeah, I feel they originally were like, Hush is going to be revealed as Jason Todd.
Starting point is 01:37:35 Yeah. And then they're like, for whatever reason, we can't do it. We have to retool this story. Yeah. That may or may not be true, but all the clues point that way. It's true. And it seems very odd. Yes.
Starting point is 01:37:47 It seems very odd that that will be... It's a very specific and weird fake out to have everyone think it's Jason Todd and then the reveal be it's just the one, it's the new guy. Right. Who cares? Fair enough.
Starting point is 01:38:00 Okay, so a lot of people have tweeted this. I don't know if it's for anybody specifically, but Shia LaBeouf is in an elevator. Sure. Is he currently... Is he still in the elevator? I don't know if it's for Anybody specifically But Shia LaBeouf Is in an elevator Sure is he currently Is he still in the elevator I don't know I only read the headlines Sure yeah
Starting point is 01:38:09 But he's live streaming Or something Yeah He's in England He also punched a guy In the face or something Well he was doing a talk there And so he decided to
Starting point is 01:38:16 Ride the elevator all day Chatting to people Where does he pee Is he peeing in the elevator Yeah he leaves to pee Oh well then he's not In an elevator In your face
Starting point is 01:38:23 What's the name of that guy He's a magician But he's really just That endurance guy And he's always just In Oh, well, then he's not in an elevator. In your face. What's the name of that guy? He's a magician, but he's really just that endurance guy. And he's always just in a box above the streets or whatever? I don't know. Okay, great. Streeto magician. Yeah, streeto magician.
Starting point is 01:38:33 Not Criss Angel. No, doesn't matter. Not the amazing Burt Wonderstone. No. Anyway, what I'm saying is that is a real endurance trick. If you're in an elevator for 24 hours, but you're leaving to pee and eat and check your emails and make phone calls, you're not're in an elevator for 24 hours but you're leaving to pee and eat and check your emails and make phone calls you're not really in an elevator for 24 hours you it's like saying i'm i'm in this i'm in stuck in this broom closet all 24 hours but i'm going
Starting point is 01:38:54 into my bedroom to sleep and i'm going to my kitchen to eat i'm going to my bathroom to shower so that's a good point yeah look i still like the idea that shia labeouf is trapped in this loop of like doing weird art things in the hope that he gains some legitimacy from it like he's just spiraling and hope that somebody's like you are a real artist exactly yeah you're validated in your choice just to steal somebody else's work and make a short movie about it yeah what a dickhead all right that's the show anyway on that note yeah what a dickhead and that's the end of the show that is the end of the show yeah all right uh where can they find us on the internet
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Starting point is 01:39:48 And Rackham. Rackham, yeah. Thank you to everyone who subscribes on Patreon. Yes. Patreon.com slash MrSundayMovies. There's one in particular we need to shout out.
Starting point is 01:39:57 Shout out a couple, the whole bunch of people up the top there. Good, absolutely. Michael, he's donated $82 a month for like ages. We put up a joke.
Starting point is 01:40:05 It's a joke one. We say like, hey, why don't you donate a dollar or two dollars or something like that a month for like ages. We put up a joke. It's a joke one. We say like, hey, why don't you donate a dollar or two dollars or something like that a month? You know, whatever you feel, whatever would fall out of your pocket, you wouldn't notice. Maybe you donate that amount of money just to keep the show running, keep the lights on, et cetera. And right at the bottom, we put a joke on.
Starting point is 01:40:18 It's like, donate $82. Click the button a million times. We want millions of dollars or whatever. Somebody did it. Michael has actually done that. Yeah. Consistently donated $82, which is amazing. We suspect he's forgotten.
Starting point is 01:40:29 We suspect maybe he's forgotten. Which is why we're also bringing it up. Yeah, we're like, oh, what if he listens to this and he's like, oh my God, I've been doing that for months. No wonder I'm poor. Yeah. We've also got some other big donations. Kieran has donated a shitload of money as well.
Starting point is 01:40:46 Rourke, Sean. I don't want to say your last names in case, you know. In case people realize you're rich and come to your house and kill you. Webb, Christopher, Eric, Jonathan. I mean, that could be anybody, couldn't it? Sure, yeah. I just pay edited, but no. But you guys know who you are.
Starting point is 01:40:58 Yeah, thank you. Unless once again you've forgotten that you do that. No, we genuinely appreciate it. It helps us keep the lights on because, you know, a lot of our money does come from this because YouTube's a bloody crap shoot, mate. Well, for me it is anyway. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:09 You don't have a YouTube channel. Do you, Mason? Has anyone asked you? Yeah, but I don't have a YouTube channel. Think about it. What do you do? You could be a sweet, you could, you could increase your internet celebrity profile.
Starting point is 01:41:20 Oh, that's so true. Yeah. You didn't even think about that. All right. Next week. I was thinking. Yes. Okay. We've got some options.
Starting point is 01:41:26 Okay. Let's talk about them now and waste everybody's time. Great. Batman and Superman is coming out in about a month. Yep. I reckon we should do a Superman episode on Superman movies and a Batman episode on Batman movies, but either only the Burton ones or only the Dark Knight ones. Okay.
Starting point is 01:41:40 And the Superman ones, all the Superman movies are set in the same universe, except for the Man of Steel one. Right. Right? Uh-huh. We the Man of Steel one. Right. We could do one of those. Yes. We could also do R-rated comic book characters, or movies we'd like to see as R-rated comic books.
Starting point is 01:41:52 Oh, that could work too. But like good versions. Yeah, okay. Do you want to do that one next week? Yeah, let's do that one, yeah. All right, so if people want to tweet us at Weekly Planet Pod if they've got some suggestions, we may just talk about them. Love it. We might not.
Starting point is 01:42:01 We might just do a different thing next week. Yeah. Because that often happens also, doesn't it? Yes. Yeah, pretty good. All right, that's the show. That's the show. Grab Dab Jam, everybody.
Starting point is 01:42:10 We'll see you next week. Both hands. Bloody do it. Bye. You're going to say bye last. Bye-bye. It's back. It's back.

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