The Weekly Planet - 124 R Rated Comic Book We Want To See

Episode Date: February 29, 2016

In this episode of the show we do every week called The Weekly Planet we get stuck into Iron Fist casting, Daredevil news, Pacific Rim 2 getting off the ground, a super secret Batman V Superman smear campaign and all the R Rated comic book properties we'd like to see on the big screen!4:04 Iron Fist Casting6:26 Daredevil Reviews7:07 New Daredevil Trailer12:35 Pacific Rim 216:44 Justice League Start Date18:56 Batman V Superman Smear Campaign21:12 Wolverine & Batman V Superman R Rated Cut24:32 R Rated Comic Book Movies we want to see24:57 Ghost Rider 327:22 Nemesis32:01 The Boys (or Boyz?)34:47 Supreme Power40:24 Moon Knight41:47 Injection44:24 Carnage USA & Carnage 201546:52 The Mask50:54 Batman R Rated54:28 Old Man Logan54:54 Lobo55:36 Swamp Thing57:20 The Hood59:49 Punisher Max101:45 Transmetropolitan107:21 Invincible1:12:30 The Authority1:14:27 Miracle Man1:21:00 What We Reading/What We Gonna Read?1:28:37 Letters ThemeBuy Deadpool on Amazon: https://amzn.to/2MrvVriPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesMr Sunday Movies YouTube Channel: https://goo.gl/lB90W2The Weekly Planet YouTube Channel: https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHFind our T-Shirts here: https://goo.gl/q6gE9C Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Weekly Planet Official podcast of ComicBookMovie.com Where we talk movies, comics, TV shows My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday With me as always is internet celebrity Nick Mace And co-host Go to hell Ah, come on

No, this is our episode where we're talking about rated R Oh right, yeah That's as R-rated as you get. And you're not wearing pants. Yes, those two things. It's an audio medium. It certainly is. It's good for the bloody listeners.

It's good, isn't it? It bloody is. Do you want to do the news of the show? Yeah. All right. Do you mean me specifically? Yeah, if you want. I don't have anything here.

Okay. In my phone, I have one note for the weekly planet and it's like you made from all the weeks yeah from all the weeks i have one one note how long is it uh it's not not very long it's like i've got hundreds it's like two it's like two iphone screens this just says lucy lawless right right at the bottom i don't know what that means i think maybe we got it to get a shout out one time oh we did yeah that was really cool yeah yeah yep awesome so that's all that's here that's it speaking of awesome oh yes there's they've cast iron fist they have that's right uh finn jones who plays uh sir lauris in game of thrones yeah i think it's a great choice yep the old The old bloody Danny Rand. A lot of people have been asking,

why isn't he an Asian man? I'd imagine because his parents are both white. Yeah. They could be. Or like genetically white enough. Yes, yes. That he looks white. He looks white.

I'd imagine that's the end result of that. Yeah, yeah. Breeding program. That's right. There's been a bit of backlash in terms of... Do you mean why he wasn't... Why an Asian person wasn't cast as Iron Fist? That's what I mean, yes.

Oh, sure, yeah. Yes. But, yeah, because, you know, obviously he's a martial arts expert and people are like, I thought he was an Asian guy. Why is he an Asian guy? Well, he's generally not an Asian guy. Correct. He's like a Batman where, you know, he travels and he bloody gets martial arts,

except he gets some bloody mystical powers as well. Some iron fists. From punching buckets of sand. That's right. Is that true? Probably. Like, I think in the modern continuity, he's probably, you know, focused his chi and whatever.

But I imagine when he was created initially, he just punched buckets of sand until he could punch the bank vaults or whatever. Yeah, bloody Bruce Lee used to do that. He used to punch into buckets of gravel. Yeah. And just people on the street. That's right. He was preparing for that Snickers ad they made after he was dead.

They edited him in too. Do you remember that? Yeah. They were like, Bruce, we're going to do this. We just don't have the technology yet. All right. Just hold on, man. Jesus.

So look, I think it's great. I think it's great cast. He's not like a super well-known actor. Yeah. But Charlie Cox, I wouldn't say was. Oh, Charlie Cox was probably more well-known because he'd done like Stardust and other bits and pieces when he did...

Daredevil? Daredevil. I think he was in bloody Downton Abbey as well. Ooh. So, ooh. So, no, I'm very excited. I mean, apparently this guy has been cast for months and they've just kind of been sitting on it.

I'm presuming they were just waiting until, because Daredevil's out in a couple of weeks. So they kind of wait until that's kind of bloody getting off the ground. And then, you know, it's all bloody prep and build up. Yeah, I mean, they probably had him cast for weeks and they're like, how can we sort of yellow him up a little bit? Right. You know what I mean?

Sure. Without it being offensive. And they put it all on the whiteboard. And then they're like, oh, no, there's literally no way we can do this. Oh, well, let's put him out here anyway. Let's bloody do it. Very excited, though. Yeah.

And speaking of Daredevil, the first reviews have come in for the season. They've released seven of the episodes to people who are professionals. Influencers. Sure. Not us. Not us, certainly. We'll have to work with everybody else. Apparently, it's good.

We're just like you, listeners. We take off our podcast R-rated pants. One leg at a time. One leg at a time. Well, actually, I've got those ones with the poppers on the sides. I just snap them off. Rip them off, mate. Yeah, apparently, well, it's only obviously seven episodes,

but the flaws of the first season remain. Like, the pacing has been uneven, but, you know. Okay. The general consensus is great. If you like the first one. Bloody get into this one. Get into this one. I'm very excited for Daredevil season two.

Yeah, I mean, we've seen the second part of the trailer. Yes, we just saw that. What do you think? Looks good. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we got a tiny snippet of Elektra in the trailer part one. That's right.

And now we see more of her in this. That's it. Looks good. We get a better look at the new Daredevil costume. What do you think? I like it. I like the eyes.

The red eyes. The red eyes, yeah. What did he have last time? I don't remember. No eyes. No eyes. He just had the flat. Did it?

Yeah. You're talking about the black band or are you talking about the actual costume? The actual costume. I'm fairly certain. You're probably right, man. No eyes.

Yeah. Something probably should be checked. You mean just like the same colour as the mask yeah just like over there yeah but i like these these bejeweled eyes yeah well they're red like that in the comics yeah i'm just going to type this in to see if you're right but i think you are right you can see there's there's like little tweaks that they've made yeah to it no you're right it's uh maybe a little bit darker yeah no it's dark a little bit darker all right fine yeah but still i'm bloody excited mate yeah uh and what was i gonna say about this i can't remember the yakuza are back the bloody yakuza are back did he kill all the yakuza in the last one or is this implied to be in between seasons no i think he didn't no i don't think he's in between anything i think they all they all it's all real time okay that's how the marvel kind of universe works unless they say specifically like iron man 3 which is the start of it set in 1999 that's right remember that boy do i

had the bloody fiction fiction fiction yeah an outfit yeah which is weird because that's like five years too late in 1999 right yeah but anyway whatever so yeah i guess they've just gone underground because remember there's also crane mother who was in it and she kind of got away because he punched she punched daredevil in the chest and he was like ah what old woman so this one's this trailer is very much focused on the yakuza yes we get a little bit more of the punisher do we get see any kingpin in it no yeah. Yeah. We do get a mysterious man. And I hope you figure out who he is in time for a Things You Missed video. One of your famous Things You Missed videos. I don't really do them for TV trailers.

It's too many, man. What are you, too good for TV? I am too good for TV. Wow. No, look, with these Netflix shows, I break my bloody TV rule to make videos on them. For like Easter eggs or whatever. Or whatever I do, I can't remember. Because I see them

as more part of the whole they are like extended Marvel movies correct so but anyway so there's a guy in this and he's like

oh and you see him sort of pull his pull a mask off but you don't see who it is do you reckon it's Stick? no it's probably he doesn't wear a mask

it's probably not Stick do you reckon it's Iron Fist? no Luke Cage? no who do you reckon it is? I think it's a bad guy but I don't know

which bad guy. Ah. Yeah. Bullseye? No. I think it's a guy who's in the Yakuza. Bullseye?

No. Ah. Sorry. I'm excited to see the Punisher though. You know what? I was thinking about back in the day

Yes. Like in the 80s because of the Comics Code Authority Marvel couldn't use Those arseholes. Yeah. I was thinking about back in the day, like in the 80s, because of the Comics Code Authority, Marvel couldn't use- Those assholes. Yeah, Marvel couldn't use a whole bunch of things. Yeah. So they were like, okay, you can't use this particular, you can't use these criminals, you can't use these monsters or whatever.

Oh, like real life criminals? Is that what they meant? Well, sort of, but you couldn't use the mafia. So Marvel had a workaround. They had a series of like... They had a huge... New York crime was controlled by a series of Italian mobsters called the Magia.

M-A-G-I-A. That doesn't roll off the tongue. That's what I'm saying. I guess the Comics Code Authority were like, well, you can't use the mafia. That's what I'm saying. But so I guess the Comics Code Authority were like, well, you can't use the Mafia. That's against the rules. And they just looked at it and went, nope, this checks out. That's fine.

Like they couldn't use for many, many years, they couldn't use zombies, but they could use Zovembis. So what I would have liked is if in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, they were just like, yeah, it's the Magia. It's the bloody Magia, mate. It's a terrible word. The Iaconza. They just were like, we're just going with it.

It's fine. Before we move on, what do you think of Elektra, of what we see? Yeah, it looks great. She's in that Gods of Egypt movie that tanked. Oh, that's out this week? I had an opportunity to see it. Well, it came out in the cinema, and I just went, you know what? I'm just not going to go. It looks out in the cinema and i just went you know what i'm just not

really because it looks it looks incredible in the worst way yeah i do want to see it but i'm not going i'm not leaving my house to see it yeah that's all right yeah but that's it's exactly the kind of world that i like where it's this myth it's mythology but it's also super high tech yeah yeah all the acting's really bad one One of shoes. A lot of green screen. So much green screen. There's a golden hawk man fighting a griffin or something. So good. Big snakes.

I'm sure it'll be a massive letdown. Definitely. But I just like the idea of it. Me too. I'm all for it being terrible. All right. Next week, Gods of Egypt episode. Just kidding.

No, not at all. Elektra looks great. She's authentically Greek. Yes. Which is nice. That's right. Doesn't have much of a costume. No.

She's got the mask bandana as opposed to the bandana bandana. Does that make sense? It looks more like a roll neck to me, but she's just rolled up. All right. What's a bloody roll neck? What's the difference? What's a roll? It's like a scarf? to me, but she's just rolled up. Sorry. All right. Yeah. What's a bloody roll neck? What's the difference? What's a roll?

It's like a scarf? Like a turtleneck. It's connected to her shirt. That's dumb. You'd bloody look around and it would fall off. Yeah. Stupid. It's the magic of cinema, though.

I guess it is the magic of cinema and television. Do you know the showrunner for the first season of Dead or Evil, Stephen DeKnight, he's going to be helming Pacific Rim 2. Ooh. Taking over from Gimermo, the one I can't say, del Toro. So that's interesting that they're making this. Do you care? About Pacific Rim 2?

Yeah. Yes. Because? It was ridiculous. It's the similar... It's a similar feeling I have with Gods of Egypt. Yes. But in a good way.

Right. Like, it could be delightful. And also, I want to see them bloody go back... I want them to take it to the bloody alien planet and bloody... It just looked like a weird, like, egg sack, that universe they went into, remember? Yeah.

Didn't they destroy the Temporal Rift? The Pacific Rift? Yeah, they did. Is this a prequel? I don't think so. I'm sure there's a prequel comic, though. Yeah. But the characters aren't very interesting.

Ron Perlman's great, though. Yeah, he was. He bloody cut his way out of that weird fish or whatever. Yep. Yeah. I don't know i i didn't i didn't i think they'll find a way to get him like into the the jaeger program yeah they'll get him into like the like the headquarters like i don't have him up as a pilot

or maybe they will yes what if he's got his own fancy jaeger i would love that that's what i'm talking about like this street jaegers yeah that's got gigantic alligator shoes i like that he's got a team up with somebody he doesn't like he's got a team up with a charlie hunnam yes they've got a team up in a jaeger because yes i'm back on but don't the jaegers don't don't you have to be synced perfectly in the brain doesn't matter turns out they're a perfect match for some reason and then they but they're always out they're a perfect match for some reason. But they're always arguing. They share a flair for style and fashion. Exactly, yes. Yeah.

I don't know, man. Oh, I've put it up on the whiteboard, Hollywood. I know you're listening. I like the aesthetic of it. I like the world. It's just, for me, it wasn't a very engaging story of what... It was no robot jocks. Absolutely, yeah.

Robot jocks from the 80s. Absolutely. Everybody looked that up. But I don't... Yeah, sure. I really like Stephen DeKnight. He was going to do... I think he was going to make the...

What if the Jaeger, like half of it, half of it is bloody Ron Perlman, half is... What's the other guy? Charlie Hunnam. Charlie Hunnam. No, you're thinking of somebody else. Charlie Hunnam. No, Charlie Hunnam's a different guy. No, he's the Sons of An Hunnam. Charlie Hunnam. No, you're thinking of somebody else. Charlie Hunnam. No, Charlie Hunnam's a different guy. No, he's the Sons of Anarchy dude.

Oh, I meant Charlie from Always Sunny in Philadelphia. Oh, right. It's that guy. Yeah, you got it. It's that guy and Ron Perlman, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so the Jaeger is one half like, like it's split right down the middle

and half is like it's pink and it's got like gold and it's got like a big walking stick and alligator shoe and the other half is just like looks like a like a harried businessman like it looks like it's got one business shirt sleeve rolled up and like a 10 in the pocket yeah pens in the pocket exactly but they're missiles but it looks like pens in the pocket yeah yeah sure perfect perfect you've bloody done it again put it on the whiteboard on the whiteboard but this universe is just not that engaging. No, see, exactly.

But I'm saying get what worked in the first one. Yeah. Put that on screen. Okay, sure. I don't care about Charlie Hunnam. I don't care about the little girl who's like, I got saved by Idris Elba. Now I'm a pilot, but I'm all sad all the time.

Make sure you take your anti-cancer pills, Idris Elba. Yeah, exactly. He's dead, by the way, in that franchise. So he's not coming back. Anyway. So daredevil great oh yeah so steven tonight he would yeah he was going to do the um the sinister six spin-off at one point okay yeah what happened to that because i'm i was thinking about talking about that today oh right okay we can we'll talk about it but um no it because the amazing spider-man 2 was not well received, they just kind of scrapped that universe.

Okay. It's all done. It wouldn't surprise me if it turns up at some point, especially if Suicide Squad works. Yeah. Then they'll be like, well, Spider-Man's got villains too. So, you know. Spider-Man's got the greatest rogues gallery. Otherwise, we'll never know how that fight between Spider-Man and the Rhino went.

That's right. Oh, yeah. We'll literally never know that. Never know Spider-Man and the Rhino went. That's right. Oh, yeah. We'll literally never know that. Never know, yeah. I'm okay with that. Yeah. He was killed. Oh, yeah.

He was squashed. All right. Did you see the Justice League tease photo? So, it's going to start filming on April 11th. Oh, yeah. Remember, there was that article we talked about that was like, it's doomed. It's doomed. That's right, yeah.

There was that rumor. So, you know, it hasn't actually started yet and they they went back to the drawing board they're like how can we fix this set photo get a set photo you know what it wouldn't surprise me yeah yeah you know i think the problem with this whole dc universe has just been it's been so long that it's just people have kind of got mad and jumped to conclusions because somebody tweeted me the other day and said- I'm mad and jumping to conclusions all the time. That's right.

I don't give a darn. That's right. I should go back and bleep that out. You should bleep that out, I think. But somebody mentioned on Twitter the other day to me that we started this podcast after that movie was announced, Batman v Superman. That's right, yeah.

Our entire podcast, in a way, hinges on Batman v Superman never coming out. But anyway, this photo, though, it's interesting because it shows some things. There's potentially a Nightwing costume. Yeah. There's maybe some Mera concept art. Yeah, yeah. And at the very back on the left, you see the new Flash costume. That's right. Or a variation on it. And at the very back on the left, you see the new Flash costume.

That's right. Or a variation on it. So it's very shiny, very sleek. Yep. It's very kind of new 52S, I would say. Yeah. What do you think? Let me just say it looks better than the TV version. Yeah, totally.

I agree with that. And I don't hate the TV version. I mean, it's TV. You do what you bloody can. It's way better than the 80s, not early 90s one, that weird foam rubber. There's a certain appeal to that. What's the appeal? That it's way better than the 80s, early 90s one, that weird foam rubber. There's a certain appeal to that. What's the appeal?

That it's so dumb. Yeah. It looks exactly like it would fit in if he crossed over with a Tim Burton Batman. I'm sure that was the point. That was the point. Yeah, exactly. Well, they bloody nailed it then, didn't they? Yes, they did.

Yeah. Oh, boy. But no, it's exciting that all this is kind of finally rolling out. Yeah, yeah. And you know, I was talking about before I said rumors and whatever, Batman's taking forever to come out and all that. Because it was delayed. Remember it was supposed to come out like last year and they pushed it back?

Good, because as soon as they release it, this podcast's done. That's right, we're over. So there's been talk of this Batman v Superman smear campaign that's been subtly bubbling. Who created this smear campaign? Good question, Mason. Was it you? Yeah.

Basically. I don't give two hoots. Oh, come on, mate. No, I'll say it. I'll say it. Yeah. I don't give two hoots. Oh, come on, mate.

No, I'll say it. I'll say it. Yeah. So if you type in Batman v Superman rain as all separate words into Twitter, there are thousands of tweets that have- Rain, R-A-I-N. R-A-I-N, that are bots. Okay. That have the variation on Batman v Superman will be a two-hour tracking shot

of every character crying in the rain. And there are thousands of these. Wow. And not only that, they've set it up so they're slightly tweaked, so there's spelling errors and whatever, so they can't get flagged. Oh, I see. Right, right, right. Because they're identical.

The Twitter delete algorithm will find them all. Okay. So, look, in all honesty, I don't think any of this will matter once the movie comes out. I mean, because there's also people coming out this week and saying who have seen it or the buzz is good. So obviously though, whoever's speaking to people behind the scenes, not everyone's going to have the same opinion. So say if you speak to your DC insider source, which I know you have, and they might say it's crap it's ezra miller it's ezra miller and then i might speak to mine which i definitely have and they say it's great so it just depends who you you obviously get but you know all this

will all come to a head in you're going through that twitter feed yeah it's all there right yeah when i saw that i'm like this isn't a real thing. Nobody's actually bothered to do this. But no, apparently it goes back like a year and then some, which is very interesting. Yeah, great. Love it. So there you go. But like I said, it won't matter in a month, three weeks,

whenever this comes out. It's either going to be good or it won't. It doesn't make a good of a right. And you know what? It does. A lot of it. Oh, look, I wish they didn't release as much of it as they have. be good or it won't. It doesn't make a good or bad. And you know, it looks, it does a lot of it. Oh, look, I wish they didn't release as much of it as they have. But no, it looks great.

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From May 27th to 31st, people across Canada will rise together and show those living with mental illness and addiction that they're not alone. Help CAMH build a future where no one is left behind. So, who will you rise for register today at sunrise challenge.ca that's sunrise challenge.ca um so we've took there's been speak talk also of an r-rated the next wolverine movie is going to be r-rated yes and of course there was also the story this week that there's going to be a Blu-ray cut of Batman v Superman. That's R-rated also because it includes sequences of violence. Does this...

Not sensuality. I wish. Well, there's that bathtub scene. Oh, yeah. There you go. But is that exciting to you that there's going to be this or there's potentially going to be this R-rated cut or are you like, I'd rather see that at the cinema?

What do you think? No, I've got no interest. In an R-rated cut? I mean, look, clearly this is just DC going, well, Deadpool made a whole bunch of money and it's R-rated. Yep. So put it up on the whiteboard. Ours is R-rated as well.

There's heaps of cussing. They say your grandpappy's Superman. He'll punch you. Because normally they don't announce these things until a bit later. They'll be like, oh, maybe there's an R-rated cut. The Wolverine has an R-rated cut and whatever. So you think this is very much like a reaction absolutely that whiteboard must be pretty full at this point just just the scrollings of a bad man yep uh so

yeah you don't care then what what are they gonna what i'm gonna what is the what is the criteria for our rating in america i couldn't tell you'm going to look it up so we can discuss this at great depth with Buddy Insight. Yeah, definitely. Well, as we know, we know. Yes. Our rating in the US is different than our rating for us. Yeah. Because our rating here is 18.

Yeah. So it's more like an NC-17. Yeah, that's right. Exactly. So what are the specifications? I'm still thinking. You're on to my Wi-Fi? Yeah, but your man cave Wi-Fi is very slow.

I think you mean regular room. Is that what you mean? No, that's not what I mean. No, no. I can look it up on my Computron here. It's weird because you've got this WWE Wi-Fi router here, like this themed one. Looks like Vince McMahon.

I don't know why. It was a gift. I don't know why it's so slow. Okay, here we go. Motion picture rating system. I don't know why it's so slow. Okay, here we go. Motion picture rating system. I bet this is a real bloody exciting website, this one, isn't it? Just a real thriller minute. I bet there's so much legislation in the footnotes.

Yep. Well, R restricted, it just says, under 17 requires accompanying parent or adult guardian contains some adult material. Parents are urged to learn more about the film before taking their young children with them. That's all it says on Wikipedia. Okay, great.

Thanks, Wikipedia. I think it just depends. Like, certain things can push it over the edge. You know, whether it be violence or nudity or explicit language. Love it. Yeah. All right. Well, let's get into it a little bit.

Fine. Let's bloody get into it. Because what we're going to talk about this week is what we mentioned last week. We're going to talk about the topic of the show this week is R-rated comic book movies that we made One of these days

you're actually going to have a stroke while the podcast is happening and I'll be like ha ha ha good idea good idea mate you're stumbling with your funny words

ha ha and then I'll just keep talking and then I'll look over and you'll all stop moving and I'm like I don't know You'll put that one up though, won't you? Yeah.

Yeah, good. That's my last wish. No editing and I won't put any. Won't put the themes in or anything. And I won't add any, like I won't do the letters thing in honour of you or anything. I'll just... Straight up.

Yeah. So yeah, we thought we'd talk about R-rated comic book properties that could potentially be R-rated movies. Yeah. Adult comic book movies. Ooh. Because obviously Hollywood has gone into a bit of a furore. Yep.

Is that the appropriate word for this? Frenzy? Yeah, sure. Mm-hmm. And, you know, desperately trying to find the next Deadpool. Yeah. For you, is there any in particular that stand out that you would like to see? I'll kick it off.

Okay, here we go. Another Ghost Rider movie. Okay, we should break this down into- It's not a real one, by the way. Okay, good. Because I think that could work. I think we should break it down into ones we'd like to see, but also ones that would probably never- We'll never get another shot at a Ghost Rider movie, surely.

Do you think we'll see him in Netflix? I think we might see him, now that we've got Doctor Strange coming out, I think we might see him make an appearance in a big battle sequence or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, if, you know, I think maybe if there's a Doctor Strange sequel, we might see him, like, when you've got your avengers supporting cast when you've got you know uh war machine and falcon and etc yeah who may not get their own film yeah yeah i think

maybe but they you know gather them together for the battle against ultron or whatever yeah i think ultron's back yeah he's back and he's now. He's got a little hat and a wand. You know, I think maybe if there's a Doctor Strange sequel and he needs to gather up some magical... Sure. Or the Defenders? Yeah. He wouldn't be in the Defenders.

Not in the first series. Yeah, but if Doctor Strange needs to summon up a whole bunch of team members, Ghost Rider might be one of those. Absolutely. Will it be... Well, we won be one of those absolutely will it be well we won't see nicholas cage will it be a nicholas cage voiceover no i think once uh i think that's done i think he bloody he had he had two chances didn't he he got two more chances than he should have got yeah and look i've never seen spirit of vengeance so pretty good it's all right it's

better than the first one certainly no that's good yeah yeah i like the design of the second one i think although like the final piece of the final action sequence is in the trailer. I don't even remember. What's that? Is it on a windy road or something? No, there's a bit where, like, you see Ghost Rider, like, whip a chain around a dude and fling him up into the air. And, like, you see the chain play out in his, like, through his hand.

Yeah. And then he stops, like, he whips his hand closed and he stops the chain and then he pulls him down back into the ground right and it's like a real like it's a it's a choice bit of action yeah and it's like oh that's that's a really good ghost rider kind of yeah it's ghost ridery that's nice that's like the last thing that happens in the movie oh great so great awesome well done idiots yeah yeah looks great though yeah sure sure bloody does so no I don't really need to see the name what's your actual

what's your actual one Nemesis which I think they are making especially well they are making they have a name it is created by

golden boy Mark Miller that's right who's had heaps of stuff converted to or upcoming stuff that you know that will be for those people

who don't know I really like Nemesis people say that it's kind of light on story and heavy on- Cussing. And cussing. Yeah.

And like, you know, gore and all that, which is, I guess, true. But I don't know. I really enjoyed the premise of it, that being there's this guy that turns up into whatever city it is. Let's say it's New York City. Forget about it. I don't remember which. And he's basically like the opposite of Batman. Not like because he's bad at everything, but he's evil Batman.

Yes. He's the, essentially in this world, there is only one sort of superhuman person. There's one costumed, there's one, he's not a superhuman. No. But he's the one costumed character in this world and he's a bad guy yeah and he's got like super high-tech weapons yeah and he's got an army of henchmen yeah and he's like a skilled martial artist yeah he's uh you know he's got a costume and gadgets and what have you he's got a bright white kind of batman yeah he's got he's got a

costume that's completely all white with a cape and essentially he goes around the world to various cities and he finds the i guess the premier lawman of every city yeah and he delivers he has them delivered a card and it says you will die on this date at this time yeah and then that always happens like he finds a way no matter how good this person is he finds a way to kill them. And essentially at the start of Nemesis, the series, he shows up in America, like his first time in America. And he finds this, this tough guy come up and says. Lee finds the Liam Neeson of cops. He finds the Liam Neeson of cops and basically says, I'm going to kill you.

And it's basically this race against time for this good guy to stop him before. And he's always seemingly one step ahead. And, you know, even when you think you got him, he's maybe you, maybe you don't got him. Maybe you don't him before. Yes. And he's always seemingly one step ahead. Yeah. You know, even when you think you got him, he's, maybe you don't got him. Maybe you don't got him. Yeah. And it hints at like a wider conspiracy of. Oh, don't spoil it.

I won't spoil it. But yeah, well, they're talking about sequel comic as well. There's like a red version of Nemesis who turns up. But I think it's well worth a read and I think it would make a really interesting movie. You know what is, I an article this week did you fancy pants yeah that's right

i can read i can read everybody out there can get stuff all right come on no no i said it like we've all had a laugh yeah no i'll say what i'll say what i think that's why everybody loves me on the internet that's why i'm an internet celebrity. But basically, it was an article about how the R-rated, the more adult properties, the ones that have worked, like that are critically successful and commercially successful, have sort of been kind of their deconstructions of the genre, their kind of revisions. So Deadpool, it isn't just a superhero movie

where he just kills a whole bunch of people. It's a superhero movie where he's like, I'm in a ridiculous costume and everything's fun and I'm talking to you, the audience, and I'm having a good time and it's silly and what have you. They've got something to say. They've got something to say. As opposed to Spawn just... Yeah. And so like Nemesis, it's sort of this reversal of the whole Batman situation. Like what if Batman turned out to be a lunatic?

It's not like... I mean, more so. Yeah, more so a lunatic. Exactly. Like it's got something to say. It's got an interesting spin. You couldn't... It's difficult to just go, okay, well, it's Batman, but he's punching everybody.

It's violent, super violent. There's blood and gore. Like you can't just go, okay, it's Batman, but he's just going to punch people real hard in the skulls and you'll see their skulls crack in or whatever. It goes to that x-ray care. Yeah, it goes to the x-ray care. The Mortal Kombat x-ray care.

You see the skull go in. Yeah, exactly. So I feel like, and if you think of something like, it's probably not commercially successful, but something I enjoyed is the film Super. Yes, I agree with that. Which is basically what if actual regular people put on... But like more so than Kick-Ass.

Because Kick-Ass ended up with like jetpacks and biddy guns. Yeah, see, to me that one exactly didn't work because it was like... I liked it. We're above the superhero genre, but at the same time they were right in there. Yeah, yeah. But like Super is just like what if you've got regular people

who aren't trained or even in particularly good shape decided one day to snap and put on a superhero costume real bad things would happen kind of that's right exactly and so i uh one that i um watchman is see that's also a deconstruction again i don't know how commercially successful it was but i think it did okay I think it's okay um one that I would probably like to see is maybe the another 300 sequel yes yeah the boys up yeah no I actually just put that into my reading list to check out so the boys is basically it's um boys with a z isn't it no it's boys with an s why'd you even read it then look I thought maybe the content would be more extreme than a very dull title boys with an s all right let's give it a try but basically it's garth ennis who uh created preacher

and hitman and a whole bunch of other stuff all things that you would also love to see i issue yeah we're getting preacher we're getting preacher i'd love to see hitman yeah um they can't make a hitman because of the hitman movies yes exactly thanks idiots thanks timothy oliphant and the other guy. You're directly responsible. I know they were your passion projects. But basically, The Boys is set in a universe where there are superheroes,

but the government doesn't trust them. Fair enough. Yeah, exactly. The government doesn't trust them to stay in line and be responsible, and so they've put together a team of just regular boys yeah regular boys are there girls in the team too there's sometimes girls in the team yes good and it's basically just they're like highly trained government operatives they're military

people yeah who track down and eliminate superheroes when they step out of line i like that a lot and it's it's super bloody and it's funny and it's it sort of feeds into garth ennis's hatred of superheroes generally again every time he releases something i'm like why are you even why make a comic book series with superheroes in it at all just do something you like just do just do just write a comic that's got people in it they have fun conversations i. I'd read that. Doesn't sell. Doesn't sell, I guess. Yeah. Not as...

Yeah. That's interesting. Because he has written some of the most iconic superhero stories. Yes. And yet he hates them. He hates them so much, yeah. I love it. Yeah.

The Boy sounds great. I'm going to read that this week. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so what kind of team... What do they use to take down superheroes we're big guns is it just depending on what the superhero is pretty much yeah so is there like a superman-esque character i don't want to spoil too much spoil it all no

i won't all right but i guess see that's the thing like going into it you would the question in bringing it to the screen is do do you have a Superman-esque character? Yeah. Or do you just have more... It would be hard to build a balance and not go into copyright infringement and not... You know what I'm saying? You know who they could use?

Who's that? Hancock. They could set it in the Hancock universe. Oh, they could set it in the Hancock universe. Oh, that'd be so good. And they could defeat him by like throwing charlie's theron at him yes and then they lose the powers then they just shoot him through the head yeah pretty but another another series that i'd like to see um and again and again it's it's kind of a

it's a deconstruction of the genre sure but it's also a satire of dc as a whole oh yeah exactly um is well in when it was created originally was called squadron supreme yeah but then in the 2000s uh marvel max released a series called supreme power i think we've talked about we've talked about it briefly we have yeah because i was i was thinking about because we're talking about r-rated stuff yeah and i went okay what's you know, Marvel had their imprint called Marvel Max, which was basically like, they're saying you're grabbing these superheroes again. You're doing it. We're doing it again.

Like you're Punisher Max. Yeah, exactly. And a lot of it was kind of, there was some good series in it, but there were also some series that were basically just, here's a character you like, but there's weird violence and sex stuff for the sake of it kind of thing. Like there was a Nick Fury miniseries, and he was always off visiting sex workers and whatever. And I'm like, what's even the point of this?

What are you doing? But there was a, yeah. So basically way, way back in the day, there was a series called Squadron Supreme. Like the Avengers went to a parallel universe and they encountered Squadron Supreme, who were basically like the Justice justice league like variations of the justice league yeah so there was hyperion instead of superman yeah there was nighthawk instead of

batman there was the wizard instead of the flash yes yes we have fun um and basically they had a separate series which was uh they had a spin-off series which was set in their own universe which is basically if you've got all these superpowers and this incredible technology and you could essentially stop all crime and all war why wouldn't you do that like why don't the justice league right yeah and essentially it sort of went into like okay they got technology to kind of alter people's minds you know they go okay this is a super criminal but we don't want him to be a super criminal anymore so let's just alter his you know brain chemistry alter his brain chemistry so it doesn't want to be the super villain anymore kind of thing and you know the the the squad supreme sort of broke up because you know some of them were like well this is

you know what are we doing what are we doing with this exactly kind of thing and then you know and it all came to a head and you know everything fell to pieces sure and i bet there was a great splash page when that happened there was a battle splash page when that happened. I bet there was a battle splash page. So many sound effects, so many thought balloons, so many people thinking about their powers as they used them. Anyway, so in the 2000s, Marvel Max released a series called Supreme Power, and it was essentially the same thing, but it was basically from the perspective of Hyperion,

who was rocketed to Earth in a little spaceship as a child. And he landed like in a, you know. This is just like Batman's origin. Yeah, exactly. It's exactly like Batman's origin. So he lands in a Kansas farm, just like Bruce Wayne did. And he's found by a kindly couple. But then he's immediately like taken away by the government.

Right. And they put him in like an underground, like fake, like Midwestern town. And he's raised like taken away by the government right and they put him in like an underground like fake like midwestern town and he's raised by government agents and he doesn't know that no he's sort of he's sort of aware but like that's his whole universe so he doesn't really know so he goes to like school with like kids who are acting it's unclear okay no i think i think he's sort of homeschooled right but basically in that and they you know they tell him all about the world but it's kind of skewed to like, oh, the US won the Vietnam War and all this kind of thing.

Right, right. And then eventually he figures out that he's being lied to and what have you, and he escapes into the world. And they've taken elements of his ship and they've used it to make super weapons. Right. And there's a crystal from the ship and it's been put on a government assassin

and it becomes this character called Dr. Spectrum who's a lot like Green Lantern. It turns out that when his ship entered into the Earth's atmosphere, it spread a virus across the world. People who are infected, when they had children, some of those children also had superpowers. Right. infected when they had children some of those children also had superpowers right and it's sort of the the the what from what they can tell like those super beings that have grown on earth

as sort of have been built to be a challenge to him oh that's right like just kind of yeah like to battle him for whatever reason like to train him up for something for a specific purpose yeah and the series like the the entire universe sort of exploded before we got to that. Yeah. But like it was a really interesting premise. And again, I think that's a good deconstruction of the genre in the sense that like,

well, Superman was raised by this kindly couple. Yes. And they taught him right from wrong and they taught him to be, you know, the truth and justice in the American way or whatever. But what if he ended up in the hands of a whole bunch of jerks in the government? That's right. And again, I really like the truth and justice in the American way or whatever. But what if he ended up in the hands of a whole bunch of jerks in the government?

That's right. And again, I'd really like to see this come to the screen. Yes. But I'm sure DC would be very upset. Absolutely they would. And how far could you, how much could you get away with? So they're all Marvel characters. Yes.

Can you imagine Marvel doing? I think it would be hilarious. Like imagine if they, imagine if tomorrow they're like, hey, surprise everyone, we built our own Justice League movie before the Justice League movie came out. It's finished already. How about this? That would be so good.

That would be great. That is definitely something I'd like to see. But do you feel like we'd need to get a standard Justice League movie before people could appreciate that? Yeah, maybe. Then you could really deconstruct it. Yeah, you could. Do you know what I mean?

Yeah. But no, that sounds incredible. I mean, to people who kind of know, you know, the universes, like the DC universe and that, I think that's particularly interesting. But yeah, I think we might need to go down that route.

Just get some bloody bog standard Justice League movies out of the way. Yeah, I guess. I feel like the Justice League movies might also be a deconstruction of the Justice League. It's tough to say, isn't it? Yeah. What about Moon Knight?

John's bloody written in as well for Moon Knight. A lot of people have said Moon Knight. Moon Knight would be good. Moon Knight's basically... All of these are basically Batman. Yeah, what we want. Ultimately, all we want is Batman, but he's wearing all white,

so he gets a whole bunch of blood on him. That's right. Exactly. Yeah. So there's been like a whole lot of variations on Moon Knight, but the latest kind of incarnation, it's this kind of street level, potentially psychotic, but kind of got a handle on it a lot of the time, kind of street level hero.

Who writes the current run? I can't remember. I can't remember either. The first run, like the first reboot was Warren Ellis. Yes. He did the writing. Is it one of your faves? Yeah, he's one of my faves.

He'll probably come up in this again. I don't doubt it. Yeah, because I won't bloody shut up about him. And of course, the one that we've talked about before, like one of the best Moon Knight comics is, all it is is him kind of running up a building raid style i think to rescue a child yes it is yeah and he just takes out like goon after goon in the most kind of brutal yeah kind of kind of way possible so any i don't know i just i like the idea of this bat like can someone make a if batman was a lunatic movie i don don't care what variation of it it is.

Warren Ellis wrote it. Declan Shelby did the art. Jordan Belair did the inking. Gotcha. It's real nice. They went on to, they're actually doing another series called Injection, which is very good. What's that about?

It's about, it's basically about these five, like, out-of-the-box thinkers. Like, there's a scientist and there's an MI6 operative and there's a computer hacker and there's a Sherlock Holmes, like a detective guy. A Benedict Cumberbatch. A Benedict Cumberbatch. Yep.

And a philosopher who also might be like a wizard, like an English wizard. Is he maybe not, though? No, he definitely is. Oh, okay. Yeah. Spoiler alert, he definitely is. Anyway, basically they get together to,

there's like a company gets them together to like build a mathematical model to determine like where the world's going to go, like in the future. Right, right. Like how's technology going to come out? How's culture? How's society?

And they do all this modeling and they're like, not actual modeling, not catwalk modeling. Oh, boo. Yeah, I know, right. There's no montages where they try on different hats. But basically they build this mathematical model and they're like oh humanity's just kind of gonna stall right it's not

good so they're like we'll build something called the injection yeah and that will that will like shake things up a little bit like it'll shake the world up a little bit and it'll get people thinking and kind of like it'll get there'll be some new ideas, basically. But basically... Even bigger iPads or even smaller iPads. Exactly. iPads. Look, this could be any size. The iPad the size of a room. One of those, you know, you go into a shopping mall

and there's like a big screen and you can touch it. Those are real crisp now. Yeah. Those big kind of banners. One of those for the home. One of those for the bloody home on your fridge. On your fridge. Anyway, so they build this.

They're like, we'll create this thing called the injection and it'll save humanity. But then it turns out it's going to kill us all. What is it? I'm not going to spoil it. You're terrible at... You know what?

You're good at bloody burying the lead, mate. No, not burying the lead. Not burying the lead. Thank you. But anyway, so basically they build it and they're like,

oh, we've made a terrible... Shit. Yeah, so the series picks up like a couple of years later and they have to... It's these people have to sort of band back together to deal with... The big iPad that they made.

Yeah, the big iPad that is flying around, just crashing it, just knocking people over in the street. But yeah, they have to sort of deal with the repercussions of this thing they created. It's sort of creating this weird stuff around the world. Right, right, right. It's really good.

Anyway, Moon Knight. Moon Knight. Yeah, no, I don't really have anything else to say no but it's good and then like the first it's the whole series has been really good but that first six issues very good and he fights like you know he fights like super criminals and he fights like ghosts and all sorts of like it it runs the gamut it's a bloody weird and wacky adventures isn't it and maybe he's reincarnated. I can't remember. I'm going to read that again. I haven't read it in a while.

James has written in, he says... Is it you? No, he's the official... Oh, you're going to sneak you one in. Official no, not that James of the podcast. Oh, very good. He wrote a few, but the one I picked out is either Carnage USA or the latest run, Carnage 2015,

both of which are brilliant, and have either Flash Thompson vs. Venom or Eddie Brock Toxin, Hunting Down Carnage, picked out is either carnage usa or the latest run carnage 2015 both of which are brilliant and have either flash thompson versus venom or eddie brock toxin hunting down carnage in a mine or town are strongly recommended for what we're reading which is our famous segment made famous by us doing it every week uh do you can't you found a carnage i'd like to see a more kind of lunatic because all the all very 90s yeah but all the Spider-Man villains we've seen Will be like What if a professor that Peter Parker knows

Isn't maybe a nice guy anymore Like they're all the villains of that Not all of them Most of them Yeah I'm trying to think What happened in The Amazing Spider-Man No that was a professor

And then Amazing Spider-Man 2 was Electro He was a Oh yeah he was some kind of... It was his birthday. Yeah, it was his birthday, but nobody knew it was his birthday and he couldn't talk to girls. That's right.

I remember. Yeah, I guess I'd like to see a kind of non-sympathetic Spider-Man villain done well. And Carnage is really... He makes Venom look nice. That's true, yeah. I mean, Venom's kind of a good guy now anyway. It's all kind of whatever.

But you think like, no, he's very kind of 90s and he's a bit dated. I don't know. See, that's the thing. Like, I feel it's kind of like, it's kind of a character that's violence for violence sake kind of thing. Right, right, yeah. And you have to set him up against, like, you have to set him up against like a Spider-Man.

Like, I don't know, it's too dark. Too dark? Maybe it's too dark for the movies. I don't know it's too dark too dark maybe it's too dark for the movies i don't know too dark for a marvel movie yeah yeah okay so no you're saying i'm gonna say no sorry james sorry i think that sounds sorry james you because you've sent that one in i like the idea of like eddie brock or flash tops and hunting carnage down though in a mine or a town as opposed to like a new york forget about it like you know something a bit different okay maybe if you did like um the descent but with like carnage oh okay sure yeah all right that's i mean i haven't read that comic i guess you sort

of have to set up venom existing yes you absolutely do yeah you're we're about four movies away from this unfortunately because they keep fucking up spider-man yeah we're seven or eight movies away i mean they'll keep making them because they make fucking up Spider-Man. We're seven or eight movies away. I mean, they'll keep making them because they make enough money to keep making sequels. They do. A lot of merch, mate. Just get a good one first. Get a bloody good one out the gate.

Yeah. They're not all bad, though. Yeah. You got one there? Here's one, and we were talking about Ghost Rider. Yes. We could make another one, but should we make another one? Here's one that I feel maybe people wouldn't accept

just because of what's come before it but I'd like to see it I'd like to see an R rated mask the mask okay sure because that's how we started

I mean that's he's a Deadpool-esque kind of it's kind of what we got yeah and I feel maybe that would kick start it off again like you can have violence

and you can have funny together because the mask started as yeah essentially a super violent uh it was looney tunes character yeah sort of yeah he got more sort of tex avery looney tunes as when the movie came out they the character sort of was softened a bit yeah like in some versions he was super still super violent. In some versions, he wasn't. But in his original appearance... The first couple of issues, he appeared in a comic called Mayhem, I think, first.

And then he got his own limited series. But the first couple of appearances, it follows the movie. The movie follows that initial couple of appearances, but just with super, super violent repercussions all the time. So like in the movie, at one point he's being chased by the police and they corner him in an alley and like they put a spotlight on him and he's dressed like a, yeah, like a bloody.

Mariachi? Yeah, like a mariachi kind of singer and he's got like maracas and he sings the Cuban Pete Rumba. Yeah. And like due to his magical powers, like everybody dances along and gets in a conga line and then he escapes but in the original version he's running from the police because his girlfriend took possession of the mask so he like like his ex-girlfriend so he broke into a house to get it back and she calls the police on him and he like runs away from the cops,

and then he puts the mask on, and then in running away from them, he kills them all. He kills like 10 cops. It starts off much the same. He distracts them with a little bit of... Oh, really? There's a bit of razzmatazz.

A little bit of razzmatazz, and then he just machine guns them all to death. Oh, good lord. So I wouldn't expect him to do a remake of the original, because that would be real weird yeah but just maybe like a continuation

or maybe like a sequel to Son of the Mask you know what I mean nobody saw Son of the Mask I don't think you need to adhere to the Son of the Mask continuity

continuity no that's gone I don't know whether people would accept it that's what I'm saying because for one people like that first movie

yes personally I think it's shit. Really? And I thought it was shit when I saw it. Even when you saw it? How old were you when you saw it? I would have been like nine.

Nine, eight, nine? I don't know. Why did you think that? It was just obnoxious. I'm fascinated by this. Because surely that's everything a nine-year-old likes at that age. I don't know. I remember thinking at the time like I should.

No, I liked a bunch of crap. Yeah, you did. But to me, I don't know. I just found it really kind of abrasive. I like the special effects. You just love the catchphrases. No. Smoking.

No, I hated that. I hated these big stupid hats. Somebody stop me. Somebody bloody stop him. And I think I just, I've no I don't. Would you see would you see one where he like brings an end to the world? Yeah, definitely. Of course

I would. Yeah, great. Yes, of course I would. I don't know. I liked Ace Ventura at the time, but I just didn't like the mask. I don't know why. I don't know what it was. Careful dog. She's alright. Bloody dog cast, am I right? right and also i think you'd have to people have fondness for that movie and also on the back of deadpool people would go well they've just bloody deadpoolified the mask right i guess kind of did it first yeah in the comics at least

anyway but he doesn't break the fourth wall does he he, I assume. I haven't read it. In The Mask? Yeah. Oh, not initially, but I think in later stuff he definitely does. Sure. I bet he jumps from panel to panel. No, he never does. Oh, my God. He's never done. You've read all The Mask, have you?

He subverted your expectations. He certainly has. Well done, Jim Carrey's The Mask. What about this one? Okay, I'm ready. I feel like, and we talked about it briefly earlier. The Mask. You're absolutely right.

I would like to see an R-rated Batman movie, but R-rated for the right reasons. Okay, give me an example. You know, like The Killing Joke, an Arkham Asylum style movie where it's all, like the game where it's all set in the Arkham Asylum. Like the comic even. Do you know what I mean? Just take like a grim kind of Batman story. And I've said this before, not every Batman story has to be like, someone's taken over the city. the comic even do you know what i mean just just take like a grim kind of batman story and i've said this before not every batman story has to be like someone's taken over the city

machine it makes a ray and then the ray makes you then you you drink the water and you go crazy that's exactly it why why can't we just see a kind of low level batman dealing with thugs or you know like uh or rogues gallery, but they're not trying, they don't have a big plan. Maybe their plan is just to kill him. Sure. Like trap him in Arkham Asylum and kill him. Do you know what I mean?

Yeah, yeah. And it's just this kind of, they just kind of mess with his head. And I don't know, just any variation on a Batman movie we haven't really seen. Something low-key, something kind of a bit darker, a bit Dark Knight-er. Do you have any, do you care about that, any of that, what I just said? When you say darker, though, see, the issue is when you say dark,

do you mean more violent? No, not at all. I just mean... See, it's a tough... What do I mean by dark? I don't know. It's a tough way to go because, again, like I said, you can't just have Batman hitting people harder.

No. It's kind of odd. But he also can't have like... It's difficult, especially I think in the cinematic universe to have like... I hit my microphone. Sorry. We all heard it. Boy, that reverberated throughout history.

To have like a character like Mr. Zaz, who's like a diabolical, insane serial killer. Well, you've never seen Gotham then, have you? Yes, see? But I guess at least in Gotham, you've got cops who would be willing to shoot him. Yes. And it's like, I don't know, for whatever reason, in comic books, I don't seem to mind that there's a character called Mr. Zazz who's this serial killer who doesn't even think people are real.

And so he's happy to just slash their throats and then assemble them in a fun household scene or whatever. And Batman is okay with not killing him. Right. But in a movie, in a movie kind of universe. Yeah. It's very odd that you wouldn't that he wouldn't like it always strikes me as odd that he wouldn't go well this guy's too dangerous to live i should kill him yeah you know i mean it's weird that that the line only exists in the comic books for me right

so you think it doesn't translate well to live i feel like it'd be it yeah if you put if you put a character like that in it would it'd strike me as it's a really odd it would strike me as this really odd disconnect where I'm like, well, why doesn't he just kill him? I think they'd probably end up where Zaz kills himself. Maybe he knocks some rocks in a tower. Maybe he knocks some rocks. Yeah. I don't know.

That's always, yeah. Well, I guess that's the thing. Like you always have, in these movies, you always have the villain. Because you can't have him live. Yeah. I get what you're saying. Yeah.

So, no Batman R-rated movie. Maybe. I don't know. Maybe. I never, I just can't see it working. I don't know why. No, fair enough. Yeah.

No, I think, you know what? We should do a whole episode on Batman movies, we want to say. Okay. Let's do it. Now. Yes. What are you doing right now? Got to go in a sec.

All right. So we'll just wrap up whatever this shit is. No, we'll definitely come back to that though. Yeah. Batman movies we want to see. I feel like I have to bring this up. We've talked about it dozens of times. I think we're going to get a variation on it anyway.

We won't talk about it for long. Old Man Logan. That's probably going to be Wolverine. Wolverine 3. A lot of people kind of tweeted in and wrote in about it. Oh, is that not confirmed? I was under the impression that was confirmed. Wolverine. Wolverine. Hugh Jackman has said to be Wolverine, Reborn 3. A lot of people kind of tweeted in and wrote in about it. Oh, is that not confirmed? No, not confirmed. Well, Wolverine.

Wolverine. Hugh Jackman has said it. Wolverine. He's like, it rhymes with old man Mogan. And everyone's like, hmm. He didn't say that, but you know. He pretty much spelt it out. But no, definitely.

I would love to see that. But do you care about Lobo at all? No. All right. Next. Okay. Philip on Twitter says Swamp. Although there was a Lobo versus the Mask crossover.

That was pretty good. Weren't they just cutting each other up or whatever? They were just chopping each other to pieces. Yeah, yeah. Isn't the new Lobo like not really Lobo and he turned out to be like, Lobo's got like a different design. I'm lost in the hole.

Yeah. The Loboverse. Wait for the next the Loboverse waiting for the next reboot rebirth then you're excited aren't you what is that again ah it's they're keeping what works

and throwing out what doesn't or something I don't know hey DC I've got a fun idea how about think harder about what works and what doesn't

you've only had like 70 years Philip on Twitter says Swamp Thing okay they've had a crack at swamp thing before they certainly have in that weird tally movie do you think people would accept a swamp thing movie because he's a weird monster like he's like groot kind of works yes because he's kind of cute and lovable and he's not the main character part of an ensemble but if you're like just this horrible slime moss creature.

Yeah, no. It's very kind of unpleasant to look at. Because people don't even really accept a Hulk solo movie. That's the good point. And he's just big and green. Yeah. He looks just like you and me. He certainly does.

Except he's slightly larger and green. Slightly. Slightly more green. Yeah. So I don't think, no. Maybe like a. What about an animal man? I was just going to say, there, a lot of people have also said

have had an Animal Man movie, and that works. Maybe, again, if Suicide Squad works, I would not be surprised in the slightest if they just start bundling together, like DC and Marvel D-list. What doesn't work? Yeah. What doesn't work on its own?

Just put them together and see if they do. Absolutely. I mean, they could put him in Justice League Dark if they ever get around to that. Yeah, well, that's the thing. First we have to get a Justice League movie that people like. Not necessarily. We just need to get one and then we can do a Justice League Dark.

No, I think that's what a lot of different comic book properties should be, though, just bundle together some superheroes that people want to see that might not necessarily sell tickets by themselves. Exactly. Just bloody do it, mate. I don't need to see another Iron Man movie where he fights a guy in an Iron Man suit. Right. Who's probably his dad's brother's enemy or something. Sure, yeah.

I don't know, whatever. Speaking of that, because we mentioned that earlier, we mentioned Sinister Six. Yes. See, I would like to see,, whatever. Speaking of that, because we mentioned that earlier, we mentioned Sinister Six. Yes. See, I would like to see, again, if we're talking about Marvel Max, one of the Marvel Max series that I quite liked was a series called The Hood. Yeah. I don't know if you, did you read that one? Is it like the cape of the TV show?

I've never seen that. Is that a Stan Lee produced property of some sort? You remember the cape? His cape was magic. The Hood's hood is kind of magic. Interesting. But I think this came in like 2002 maybe. Okay, sure. So if that came out before the cape. That didn't. I mean, it did of magic. Interesting. But I think this came in like 2002 maybe. Okay, sure.

So if that came out before the cape. That didn't. I mean, it did, yeah. Right. Sorted. Okay, so basically the hood was essentially, it's this real small-time criminal, like more a pickpocket or whatever. Right.

And he finds a magical hood, like a cloak with a cape kind of situation, and it gives him an assorted magical powers right like he can like if he holds his breath he can turn invisible he can like shoot lightning out of his hand sometimes kind of thing like sometimes sometimes yeah but basically some villains get wind that he has acquired this and they're like well we want it oh and they hire yeah and they like some like mob boss or whatever hires some super criminals from the magia yeah from the mazer yeah some mob boss from the magia uh he puts down his spaghettis and he puts down his piano accordion and he

hires like some like well-known like b-list super criminals to acquire this. Right. And so it's the hood versus these actual criminals. So he's fighting, I think, the Electro and maybe the Shocker. I don't know if you can look it up. But yeah. Shocker also has electric powers, sort of. He has vibrational powers. How dare you? I always beat him up in the Spider-Man video games.

Okay, right. Oh, here it is. Right bloody here. Yeah. Spider-Man video games. Okay, right. Oh, here it is. Right bloody here. Yeah, so essentially, eventually he becomes like an actual mob boss in New York. Yeah. Because he actually, you know, gets some... Okay, right.

So the Hood has to deal with Constrictor Jack-O-Lantern, the Shocker. So it wasn't Electro. That's okay. I think Electro does make an appearance though. But basically it's kind of like, it's like this real dirty underbelly of the Marvel universe. So there is swearing and violence or whatever.

But it suits that. It totally suits the theme of that. Yeah. And so I was thinking like, yeah, the Sinister Six. Yes. But that's dead in the water now, I guess. Absolutely.

That's a shame. It is. But maybe it'll come back. I think it will definitely come back. Yeah. Definitely. All we need, like what we need is the squad to do well and we need another peppy pop song that we can add to the trailer

and this is back it's back baby in a big way absolutely um we kind of talked about it before and you've actually mentioned this multiple times um jacob says like a punisher kind of i think he said punisher max a lot of people said Punisher Max. Yeah. Do you care? Would you love to see a Punisher Max or do you think we're just going to get a Punisher TV series? Look, I'm... In terms of the level of violence we get in these Netflix series, I think I'm going to be happy with the Punisher we get

in the new season of Daredevil. And if they spin that off into a solo series, I'll be okay with that, I think. Yeah. Okay, gotcha. Like, we seem to be getting enough there's enough blood you know what i mean it's enough i don't need to see super amounts of gore no i need him i need him to be this relentless character it's not even about the blood i mean

it's it's good to have like funny set pieces like there's a there's a um there's a set piece there's a scene in the max series where he shows up at like a mob boss. He's killed a mob boss. Yeah. And then when everybody's shown up to the funeral, he just machined, like he shows up and he jumps through like a sky, it's in a little bit of Punisher Warzone. He jumps through a skylight. He beheads somebody with a bowie knife. He beheads like an old lady mob boss.

And then like he, they all chase after him, like, out the door. But he's set up, like, Claymore Mines and a machine gun, and he just machine guns all these old mob bosses and all these... Like, it's relentless. Like, that's a fun scene. Certainly, yeah. Because they got what was coming to them. They bloody got it, yeah.

But there doesn't need to be that. He just needs to be this character who... There's something definitely wrong with him. Bloody got it, yeah. But there doesn't need to be that. He just needs to be this character who there's something definitely wrong with him and he's relentless and he's just using these military tactics against the mob. He doesn't have to be blood and gore all the time. No, no.

You just got to get the impression that he's... Ruthless. He's ruthless, yeah. Gotcha. I said before that Stephen DeKnight was doing Sinister Six. It's actually Drew Goddard. Oh.

I apologize. I just realized I made a mistake so I took that. Two guys that I sort of vaguely know what they do sometimes. You know it, mate. You bloody know it. Have you read Transmetropolitan?

Yes, I have. Yeah, it's great. So basically for those who don't know what that is, it's Hunter S. Thompson-esque. Yeah, he's a guy. It's set in the future. It's set in a very super high-tech far future.

It's like if Twitter was the world, pretty much. Okay, that makes sense. It's this insane overload of just nonsense and ridiculousness and everybody kind of doing what they want but also being oppressed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just neon and horrible and dirty and grimy and corrupt. He's this kind of lone voice of reason. Yeah, he's a guy called Spider Jerusalem who has,

again, this is written by Warren Ellis. Yes. One of my faves. One of your bloody faves, yeah. And he's Hunter S. Thompson, but he's also a thinly veiled Warren Ellis. Yes. Like all of Warren Ellis' main characters are basically Warren Ellis,

but he is the most Warren Ellis-is of his warren ellis characters and he's basically a guy who has like he's he's he used to be a hunter s tomskin s journalist um for a for a big newspaper or like e newspaper whatever whatever was in this 90s future e paper and he's left it all behind because he's sick of this world yeah and he's gone up to like a cabin in the mountains but he's published his comeback world. And he's gone up to like a cabin in the mountains, but his publishers come back and his editors come back and said, come back, live in the city. Isn't it like you owe us a book or something?

Yeah, that's right. Yeah. So he decides to publish a series of columns called I Hate It Here. Yeah. And yeah, and it's basically his, some are like weird unconnected adventures, but there's also like a political element. Yeah, like he's trying to take down the president.

Yeah, who's- Not like kill him, but yeah. Just ruin him because he's a genuine bad guy. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Exactly. He's essentially our last prime minister and our current prime minister.

If you read it, like when- Not to get political. Too late. You can cut this out, but it's too late. But yeah, like when our current, our last prime minister got in, I'm like, oh, this is transmetropolitan. This is the worst possible guy who somehow made it to the highest office in the land.

And we got rid of him and we replaced him with somebody who's basically as bad. Well, he speaks better. Anyway, let's never talk about that again. No, it'll sneak in at some point. Yeah, so it's, I don't know how you would do that or if it's really like it's a lot of issues there's so much content yeah mini series net netflix yeah hbo yeah maybe i just every time he steps outside it's like a sensory overload in terms of yeah there's like mutant animals that like, you know, there's just like slime

dripping down the walls and skyscrapers and giant like sex shop signs. It's just, I don't know how you could do it. Yeah. And you'd need, because that's the thing,

you'd need like a massive budget. Yeah, that's right. It'd be huge. You couldn't be bloody the PlayStation Network. No. Not risking that again. What was that one again?

They made Powers. Oh yeah, that's right. With, um, Sharlto Copley was in it. You loved that, didn't you? I hated it. You hated it, didn't you? I watched a couple episodes and it was real bad.

I wish it were good because Powers, the series, is real good. I liked the Iron Man-esque character. Oh, so bad. Wearing like a 1930s American football kind of uniform. Yeah, because back in the day, people were always like, oh, when Watchmen and never work as a movie you know you have to make it an hbo series and that was pre hbo making stuff like game of thrones or whatever yeah and now they could they definitely they have the money and they have the technical

capabilities to do something like transmetropy yeah but would they would they hbo might hbo don't seem to care what they put out no not even that like about budget yeah like they'll just be they'll they kind of go with what kind of works so I think they get so much syndication money they do yeah that it doesn't like they can pump millions of dollars into Game of Thrones and they don't care if people pirate it yeah it seems it's well let's um I read an article on that many I've read two articles in my life and basically HBO has all the money I think I've even

mentioned this show HBO has all the money because people subscribe to HBO for something and they never unsubscribe yes they like so they're still getting

money from people who subscribe for Sex and the City like decades ago sure is that how all that bloody subscribe service is

is that how it all works in the US I think so subscribe for a channel. Yeah. That seems ridiculous. Just steal it off the internet. Just steal it off the internet, yeah.

What were we talking about? Oh, Transgender Poland. Yeah, that would be great. Yeah, but who would you get to play? Spider Jerusalem. We always look for famous bald people. That's where my head's going. Angry Anderson, Australia's own.

Because he has to be sort of- He's kind of rangy yeah he's got kind of a drug addled riddled body but he's also kind of in good shape

because he can fight I went immediately I just went what about Patrick Stewart sure but he's not like he does he have

he needs a certain explosive energy what about if Patrick Swayze was alive with a shaved head okay sure Patrick Swayze because Patrick with a shaved head? Okay, sure. Patrick Swayze. Because Patrick Stewart, I never watched any more episodes,

but I watched the first couple episodes of that Blunt talk. Oh, I've got to get back to that. Yeah, that was good. It was kind of a similar vibe. Yeah, yeah. Patrick Stewart played this weird conservative pundit who went mad. Yeah. And that kind of worked.

Yeah. I don't know who he'd get for Spider Jerusalem. Heath Ledger would have been good. All right, all right, fine. Just keep naming dead people. Yeah. And that kind of worked. But I don't know who you'd get for Spider Jerusalem. Heath Ledger would have been good. All right. All right. Fine. Just keep naming dead people. God.

You have any more dead people that would work? Mother Teresa. Would Mother Teresa be a good Spider Jerusalem? Maybe. Buddy David Bowie. David Bowie would be a good Spider Jerusalem. Buddy Christopher Columbus. He's been dead a long time, hasn't he?

Perfect for you. I've got to mention Invincible. I's been dead a long time, hasn't he? Perfect for you. I'm going to mention Invincible. I talk about it all the time. You do, yeah. Just bloody make, no one will probably make it, but it's great. Would it work as a lot, yeah, I guess it would work as a standalone movie. Definitely. It's got a nice origin story.

Yeah. I guess for a lot of these, I immediately go, well, how would they encapsulate the whole series kind of thing? But you don't have to. You don't need to. You don't need to, yeah. Yeah. You just take a bloody, you take a story arc and yeah yeah and and you do it he's also got an interesting origin story as well yes i feel and the way that like

the twist it's kind of a twist on the superman he's basically superman's son essentially yeah that's true and then there's a kind of twist on that relationship and who his father is and whatever. I'm going to be like you and not spoil it for everybody. Great. Yeah. Love it. Good stuff. I think that's all I've got though here.

What are some other good ones? That's it. Remember all the good ones. Why The Last Man, I feel would work. Oh, yeah. Hang on. I guess Invincible. Why specifically would Invincible not work as not an R-rated novel? Because there's like aliens and time travel and like it's incredibly,

it's a big scope. But why does it have to be R-rated? Because it's violent. I was going to say, but I see because it is. It doesn't have to be R-rated, I guess. If you just look at the comic book covers of Invincible, it does look, it's very four-color kind of Marvel. Yes. Kind of fun Superman. But it's quite graphically there's yeah there's like fights that

the fights that you don't really see in comic book movies where like what if two superman s characters were really hitting each other that hard and gutting each other and yeah tearing heads off and gouging eyes and and whatever there's one fight he has in particular with this kind of off and gouging eyes and whatever. There's one fight he has in particular with this kind of, this like interplanetary warlord. And he's like this older guy, because the older they get, the kind of stronger they get. And he's severely outclassed.

Right. And it's incredible. Like the way that kind of fight goes down, because it's just like hitting a brick wall. Yeah. Do you think they could sell that though at the movies? Because it's... Well, my question would be twofold.

One, do you think you could crank down the violence and it still be a good movie? I think so. I think it could. Yeah. I think a lot of the appeal of that comic though is the violence. I know it doesn't really feel a lot like it's violence for violence's sake. Whenever there's violence, it's kind of a big deal.

It doesn't happen every... Yeah, that's true. It's not every comic. But whenever there's a fight... It's a real... Something terrible happens. Because, again, it's sort of like... Because it's essentially a teen hero.

Yes. Like a Spider-Man-style teen hero. Yeah. Well, his name's... What is it? Mark Grayson. Yeah, exactly. So it's... yes a spider-man style teen hero yeah well his name's what is it mark grayson yeah exactly so it's my question would be do you think people would be willing to accept like oh he's a teen

hero he's like spider-man but then he's getting into these brutal yeah battles because he's not even like if when you think of kick-ass yeah again that's kind of like we're too cool for school and we're having we're ancient grandpappy we're, ancient grandpappy's superheroes, you know. My grandpappy's very conservative. I don't know if you've noticed. Has he? I've never met him.

No, he's dead. Oh. Classic grandpappy. He'd be great as the new Spider-Jerusalem. That's right. That's what I've been saying for years. But like, but that, that,

again, I don't know if 100% that works. But again, with Invincible, he's kind of like, but that, again, I don't know if 100% that works. Yeah. But, again, with Invincible, he's kind of like he is more a Spider-Man kind of guy. He is, yeah. And he's got a girlfriend trouble. He's got a girlfriend trouble. He's got to go to college and whatever.

And what's his mom think of this and whatever. Yeah. Like, do you think people would be willing to accept? Or do you think people would be tricked by, hey, it's the fun. I think you could slowly build. He's a fun Spider- think you could slowly build. He's a fun Spider-Man guy, but also. He's getting horribly beaten.

He's getting horribly beaten to within an inch of his life. Yeah, like real brutal. I think he's more blood than man at some points. I think you could, if you slowly built to it. Within a series or within a movie. Maybe you kind of touch on it in the first movie and kind of go into it in the second. I think maybe, what if you did it like harry potter style oh where it starts where it starts kind of pg rated yeah fun and then you assume the audience ages with right okay sure yeah yeah i mean the problem

with that is with planning series is just bloody get a good one out of the gate yeah and you wouldn't want to kind of do a watered down version of invincible and for them that not to work yeah and then be like well now you fuck that up so yeah that's true we never get another one again does invincible because i haven't read the full series in quite a while i haven't read the first few issues in a very long time does it start very violent not particularly no okay he's just the kind of kid who's just waiting for his powers to come in that's right and then they do and then he kind of goes on a bit of an adventure and then it just takes it like a real turn like yeah maybe that's the way you can do it maybe you have to do it start out slow yeah so because at the start i think he's just like he's fighting like a like a

rock monster in the street and whatever and then it's like you know and then it gets cray yeah yeah so cray so bloody cray. Got any more? I do have a couple more. I'm just wondering which one I... Say what they are. Check your note. I'll check my bloody note. Hang on. Maybe I screenshotted something.

Hang on. This is kind of similar to Supreme Power or Squadron Supreme. Go on. The Authority. Do you ever read The Authority? No. The Authority, again, was sort of... This is Warren Ellis again, so sorry.

I bet it bloody is. So this was an image... There used to be an image series called Stormwatch, and it was like a UN peacekeeping team, and they all had superpowers. And then that was spun off in a series called The Authority, which was basically kind of a Justice League, but super violent and super – originally Warren Ellis called it like widescreen comics.

It was just like explosive action, no real point to it. Just people like badasses just blowing stuff up and there's just cities exploding and they're fighting gods and all this sort of stuff. But then he stopped. He created the series and he did a few seasons of it and then new creators took over and they're fighting gods and all this sort of stuff. But then he stopped. He created the series and he did a few seasons of it and then new creators took over and they were like, make it political, make it kind of whatever.

Right. Let me sneak that in. I know, right. And then it was acquired by DC. Yeah. It was in the Wildstorm universe and DC bought that. And then they've sort of been integrated in the DC universe to some level of success.

Like Midnight has got his own series, which is good. I like the Midnight series. It's good. But some of them not so much. But basically it's sort of the Justice League, but like, again, sort of a deconstruction of it. So we've got Apollo and the Midnighter who are Superman and Batman, but they're a couple. Yep. And you've got like-

A couple of cool dudes. A couple of real cool dudes. Yeah, exactly.'re a couple. Yep. And you've got like... A couple of cool dudes. A couple of real cool dudes. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Gotcha. And like, they've all got massive superpowers and, you know, they can lay waste to cities and kind of thing. It's pretty good.

I'd like that. I'd like to bloody watch that. Okay. So any of that universe, is that what you're saying? Yeah, but again, it's kind of... Again, it's a DC property now, so I very much doubt they'd go for it. Right, right, right. Yeah.

Because they've got to get a Justice League movie right right right yeah because they've got to get a Justice League movie out of the gate they've got to get a Justice League movie out of the gate so do you have that other one or do you think you don't have it

one that I'd again like to see Marvel owns it again so that's good Miracle Man right yeah that's one of your faves that's one of my that's one of my favourite

series of all time it is my favourite unfinished epics of all time because it was it was originally okay it was originally called marvel man like it was a character created in the 1950s i'll give you do you want do you want the long version of the short long version i'll give you a short long version okay so basically

marvel man was created in the 50s yes as a copy of a copy of superman so basically superman was created everybody loved superman yeah there was some copycats. One was Captain Marvel, right? And he existed for a while. And then back in the day, because there weren't so many characters that were like Superman. Now there's like a million characters that are basically Superman. But when Captain Marvel was created, there wasn't. So DC sued Fawcett Comics, who created Captain Marvel, got it taken out of print. Yep.

And then they later purchased it. They got him. So now they're in the same universe but basically in england captain marvel is really popular and so they basically got a local artist to make a real cheap ripoff called marvel man who was essentially the same character but real bad real like a jerk no just no not very not a very good like not a very well written series not a very well drawnwritten series, not a very well-drawn kind of thing. And basically, and that character existed in the 50s.

And then in the 80s, there was a comic magazine called Warrior was starting up and they got Alan Moore, Watchmen, V for Vendetta, etc. And they're like, do you want to take it? Do you want to have a character? Like we've bought some of these characters. Do you want to take a crack at one of them? And he was like, I'll take Marvel Man, which is now Miracle Man. Yeah.

And he's basically, okay, well, what if this character existed in the 80s? Essentially, I'll start again. No. I'll keep going forever? Yeah. Okay, so basically the series starts basically of this character. He just exists in the regular universe, like in the real world. And nobody's heard of Miracle Man or these amazing adventures

because it never happened. Right, right. But this guy, he just has these dreams that he's flying. And he has dreams. And it was all a dream. Yeah, and he kind of has a boring life that's sort of going nowhere. And he's like, what am I going with my life? Kind of wish there was more.

And then this hostage situation happens and basically through a series of circumstances, he becomes Miracle Man. He's like, oh, I'm Miracle Man. I remember all these adventures I had back in the day. But nobody else does because they never happened. Like this world. He's like, why do i remember all these uh what i remember how does he become miracle man or is

that like a twist essentially basically back in the day so you know how um billy batson met the wizard shazam the wizard who gave him he said shazam and he becomes yeah captain marvel well uh miracle man met an astrophysicist demigod who gave him the magic word kimota which is atomic backwards right he says that and he turns into miracle man gotcha and so essentially there's a hostage situation at an atomic power plant oh okay he like he takes a tumble he sees like atomic backwards and he's like i remember that and he says it and he turns into miracle man okay and so and he's got like a he'd like back in the day he because Captain Marvel had like Captain Marvel jr. and like Mary Marvel probably had a dog he had my yeah yeah exactly there was a dog I think but anyway so

Miracleman has young Miracleman and kid Miracleman and lady and like miracle woman and whatever and he's like i i remember all these characters why like what's happened to them what happened to me kind of thing and it's sort of basically it's a it's it's two things it's a deconstruction of what would happen if like a superhero actually appeared in the real world like it's the first one of those yeah there's been tons of them since but this was like the early 80s yeah and it's kind of like the very first one of those like how would how would the world react how would the world change and it's also like this mystery of like well if i remember being miracle man like if and if miracle man's real and i you know and he is like what happened to everybody else yes like what happened to kid miracle man and young miracle

man and what happened to all the villains and kind of dog and he's and the dog exactly and he has to kind of you know go around the world and figure out what happened there all the villains and kind of thing. And the dog. And the dog, exactly. And he has to kind of, you know, go around the world and figure out what happened there. But it's not finished. It's not finished because it went through a whole bunch of different, like Alan Moore wrote it for a while. Then it went to Neil Gaiman. He wrote it.

So Creative Sam and he wrote it for a while. So like two top tier. Totally, yeah. Like writers. And then the company that made it went out of business. It was acquired by Todd McFarlane. Right. But then the original creator was like, no, I still own it.

Yeah. And then like there's been this massive legal battle and then it's like, and Neil Gaiman has a personal beef with Todd McFarlane, like they don't like each other. Yes, no, yes. Because Neil Gaiman created a couple of characters for Todd McFarlane's Spawn series. Yeah.

And this kind of thing. Oh, bloody, what's her name? Angela. Angela, yeah. And a couple of characters for Todd McFarlane's Spawn series and this kind of thing. Oh, bloody, what's her name? Angela. Angela, yeah. And a couple of others. And so eventually that's all been ironed out and I think Marvel owns Miracle Man now. Okay.

So at some point... Someone's going to have to finish it. Yeah. But anyway, the point... This would require an R rating because it's super brutal. There's a lot of massive destruction. There is a very graphic childbirth scene.

You don't have to put that in the movie, obviously, but it's pretty- It's kind of crucial, though, isn't it? Yeah, in a way it is. Okay, all right. But it's pretty- The whole thing's very intense. And again, I don't know if you could make it into a movie.

Yeah. There's a lot to it. Yeah. And again, it's not finished. So maybe you make the movie and you'd be like, we didn't write anything else. Sorry. Just imagine how it would go. It was a dream. Just end it with not finished. So maybe you make the movie and you'd be like, we didn't write anything else. Sorry. Just imagine how it would go.

It was a dream. Just end it with a dream. And also, the issue for me is it's like Wolverine's origin or it's like one of those things where you go, oh, imagine the possibilities of where this could go. I kind of feel like if they eventually finish this, like if Neil Gaiman isn't too busy and he eventually writes the end of it, I'll be like, no, that was kind of disappointing.

I didn't expect it to go that way. I kind of wish it went somewhere else. Thanks a lot, Neil Gaiman. Yeah, yeah. You bloody jerk. Is that it? I think that's it, yeah. I mean, there's plenty more.

Hey, Doug, you all right? I admire your courage. Should we do the next segment of the show? Let's do the next segment of the show let's do the next segment of our show what ah sorry

just got a wet nose yeah this segment is called what we reading what we gonna read and it has a theme song I'm doing a theme what are we reading

today what the blood are you reading oh I just started like I'm literally one page into because we're talking we're talking about What are we reading today? What the blood are you reading? Oh, I just started. Like, I'm literally one page into. Because we're talking about Hateful Eight recently. Right. We didn't do an episode on it. We were both like, it's pretty, it's fine.

It's fine, whatever. I just started reading the Django Zorro miniseries. Oh, you've been wanting to read that for ages. I have been wanting to. But it actually came up in one of those Humble bundles. Humble bundles? Humble bundle. They did a Dynamite Comics bundle.

So that was like, that one, it was like The Shadow. Right. Garth Ennis took a crack at The Shadow for a few issues. Pretty good. Maybe it's in this month's comic bento, Power of the Superheroes. No, he's got powers though. Zorro. Oh no, The Shadow.

He's got powers. Wait, did you say it was Zorro and Jango? It's Jango Zorro, yeah. What's the Shadow got to do with it? He's also in that bundle because he's on Dynamite. Oh, no. I'm just saying what if the Zorro-Jango book is in it is what I'm saying. Yeah, okay.

Yeah, so what do you think of that first page? Look, the first page begins with Jango. He's like in the desert and he's like his horse has died so he needs a lift from a stagecoach which has Zorro in it right

so it's the opening to Hateful Eight exactly the same is that a coincidence which came first I don't know Hateful Eight was leaked somebody figure that out

and tweak it somebody figure that out and figure out what the timeline is there but yeah it looks it looks like a lot of fun cool is it like four issues?

Seven issues. Seven issues. That's exactly, yeah. And that's it? Yes. All right, cool. I might have to check that out. Dango Zorro.

I felt obligated for some weird reason this week. Yes. To watch Give Full a House a Go. Oh my goodness. Oh, that's right. You tweeted that. I did. That's weird.

Yeah, it's pretty rough man oh yeah okay like it has a the first 20 minutes are like do you remember uncle joey oh he has that woodchuck or whatever uh-huh and it's just like there's something weirdly like comforting about it because it's like a written by quentin tarantino and matt waggon how do you think that went how do you think that went well no but i mean like how much do you think how much no but how much do you think was tarantino and how much was matt wagner i don't know how much do you think there is there is a good like intro from quentin tarantino like a big like a big page is he like thank you for me writing this yeah exactly yeah yeah number four houses there is something like weirdly nostalgic in it like it's something

nice about it. Okay, sure. But it's also horrendous, except for Stamos, who's incredible. Great. You know, the thing about Stamos is- What's that? He can still sell it because he's been acting. Oh, yeah.

Like he hasn't stopped. Like he's not like an A-list kind of dude, but everyone kind of knows who he is. I guess. He's like a TV George Clooney. In a, in a very specific way. Yes, he is. Yes.

No, it's no, don't, don't watch it. Don't, don't watch it. I've watched like six episodes. And the Olsen twins are not back.

No. And there's a bit where they go, Michelle's in New York with their fashion empire. And every single cast member turns to the camera and goes like, huh? I get it. Yeah. Is there a laugh track?

Yes. Is it, was it filmed in front of a live audience? I don't know. I think it was also, uh, but like laugh tracks are weird now. They are.

The whole setup is weird. Like I'm not even going to get into the story of it. Everybody knows what full house is, but Bob Saget and Stamos and Uncle Joey or whatever, Deb Crullier, they're not in it that much. It's more about the kids from the old show. But anyway. But as an antithesis to that, because I'm like,

I need something to cleanse the palace. Yeah. I watched the Kurt Cobain documentary Montage of Heck. Okay, sure. I hear that's great. Yeah, it is. And it's not like, I thought it was going to be, to use a word that you've used 50 times,

a deconstruction of like... I seem to say that a lot, don't I? Add it to the drinking game, people. Anytime I say anything, it's a deconstruction. The rise of, like, Devada, I thought it would be a lot of, like, a lot of the band interviews and whatever. And, like, Dave Grohl's not even in it.

Like, he was interviewed, but it was like three weeks before it came out. So they couldn't kind of put it in. But it's very much like an insight into the mind of Kurt Cobain from when he was a child growing up and like his family split apart and he was kind of looking to find somewhere stable, but he didn't kind of get that. But he also kind of fought against it.

And then, you know, kind of the rise of Nirvana and how that kind of did his head in and his health problems and drug abuse and up to his death. It's really, it's not, it is like being in his brain when you're watching. Cause there's a lot of like, they've got all his, all his notebooks and journals as well as like home footage of him and Courtney. And it's, it is like being in his head and it's kind of unpleasant. Okay.

It's like an unpleasant, like it's fascinating, but it's an it is like being in his head and it's kind of unpleasant. Okay. It's like an unpleasant, like it's fascinating, but it's an unpleasant place to be in all the montages are like, like all the, it's like got like weird, like shredding guitar that doesn't like sit well. Right. Like my dog didn't like,

it was just like, it was like twitching. But so now I need to, I think what's more full at fuller house. You need your uppers and your down. But no, it's definitely worth watching uh but it's not like and in this year they released this album and it was critical acclaim and this is this like it's it's more about this is what kirk and bane was thinking this is what he was like yeah do you feel there's any bias in it i got the i was when it

came out i got the impression there were some articles about like oh this is this isn't how it went down kind of thing like yeah there's a bit of people i have read some articles of like people who also knew him or like you know that's bullshit that story didn't happen and and whatever but i mean the fact is though it does use i mean selectively it uses their home footage yep that they kind of of like kirkabane and courtney love and it's weird also kirkabane and courtney love and kirkabane's mother look mother look very similar okay make of that what you will but um and like when they have their first child and whatever so a lot of it like you can't fake that footage that's it depends how you present it obviously

and it's the same with all the journal stuff. So I think it's probably one of the closest things you'll see. But any documentary is slanted a particular way from the perspective of the people who are... Like Courtney Love commissioned it or gave the footage to a director and said, can you make something of this? And he's worked on it since like 2007. She just held back on the footage that's just Kurt Cobain going, we, we're doing a funny little, we're doing a funny little, we're doing some little fake skits. We're going to record some fake skits. It's going to be fun.

Hey, Courtney, let's have some fun. Let's make some fake home movies. Yeah. It is a bit weird to kind of see someone else's home movies as well. Yeah. Like it's, I don't know, yeah. I mean, it's obviously it was all the permission was given, but yeah, it's just a bit, it's interesting to see as well. So Chris Novoselic, you don't know yeah I mean it's obviously it was all the permission was given but yeah it's just a bit

it's interesting to see as well Chris Novoselic you don't really see much from him too much the bass player yeah but to see his perspective

on it like just you know he was very much felt like he was kind of everyone in that world was kind of along for the ride with

Kurt Cobain he's like a super genius or not even like yeah depending on, but just the way that his brain just works differently from, say, a normal idiot like you. Wait a second. If you like Nevada, you'll probably like it.

Yeah. Anything else? That's about it, really. Then I bet you got that theme song ready. Do I? Look, it's ready. You do? It's the theme song ready. Do I? Look. It's ready. You do? It's the volume up though.

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We're going to do letters. Good stuff. Thank you to Rackham424. Bloody host. Every week. Love it. Hey, James and Chip Dangercock, if you're reading these. I was wondering if somewhere...

I'm not, but I'm listening to them being read. Isn't technology amazing? It sure is. Somewhere down the line, you could do a Firefly Serenity episode, possibly including Dr. Horrible as well. Love your show. I've been listening for 2.5 years. This is super late, but I was glad to hear you love Imbruged

because that's my favorite movie. Also, if I could be the official eighth female listener of the podcast, question mark? Thanks. Keep up. Keep doing what you're doing. Grab that gem. We should do a Firefly Serenity episode.

Yeah, okay. The next few months are pretty packed. And then a Dollhouse episode. And then an episode of that Shakespeare thing that Joss Whedon did at his house that time. I didn't see that.

No. I did not want to. Do you like Shakespeare? Again, it's one of those things that all the joy is taken out of it because you have to learn it at school.

Yes. If I'd come at it just from the perspective. With a bat. Yeah, with a bat. Then it would have been great. Yeah, awesome. But no, definitely Firefly Serenity. We could also talk about the comics. I. With a bat. Yeah, with a bat. Then it would have been great. Yeah, awesome. But no, definitely Firefly Serenity.

We could also talk about the comics. I've read a couple of them. Oh, that's true, yeah. I don't know. But no, we should... Bless you, dog. We should definitely do one at some point. You've seen it all, obviously.

Have you got stuff to say about it? Eventually. Not now. No, not now. This is about letters. It's not about... Also, when we harassed James Gunn

on Twitter yeah somebody did like a like a stats breakdown of the people who harassed James Gunn apparently we have 9% female listeners

yes pretty good right good stuff yeah that means we have if she's the 8th listener that means there's a 9th one and there's 100 listeners

in total yeah that's correct that's good that's right yeah that's right yeah that's all we wanted to do we wanted to when we started this thing we wanted to do it until batman v superman comes out and we wanted to have 100 listeners that's right we've achieved one of those goals winding it up now uh some chris also you can hashtag weekly planet pod if you want to

hit us up on bloody that's twitter it's a great way to get in contact with Mason in particular yeah I love it hey dickheads if you could choose one comic book movie that was awful would like to be redone what would it be

and why and who would you want to be involved I meant to talk about this thing earlier but this is a perfect time to talk about it now anyway thanks for the great podcast

makes my car rides fly also can I be the official nemesis of the podcast oh nemesis yeah if that has been taken I'll sign off for the official Nick Mason of the podcast or nemesis yeah if that uh has been taken i'll set off for the official nick mason of the podcast that's also been taken multiple times not by me but by other people but all right your pal chris uh i forgot to mention this earlier there's

a 20 000 leagues under the sea origin captain nemo origin story is being made with james mangold is that gonna go in the famous monsters category? I don't know because I think Brian Singer's doing a version as well. Oh, dear. Or maybe it's the same version. Captain Nemo origin story. Yeah. Just him building the submarine, I guess. I guess.

But the reason I say that is because we've seen Captain Nemo in cinema before in League of Extraordinary – recently, yes, in League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. But I wouldn't mind seeing a proper League of Extraordinary Gentlemen movie that's not garbage. Me too. Yeah. Is there any other movies that you would like to see?

Is anybody going to watch that though? Yeah. That's the kind of thing. I feel that's kind of like the Phantom, the Shadow. Yes. Like if you're burned on it once, you're never coming back to it. Yeah, you're probably right. Isn't it weird that they thought like instead of making like a justice

league movie in like the early 2000s they're like we'll just we'll make a league of extraordinary gentlemen like yeah like we'll make like a 19th century justice league that's terrible and everybody hates and there's a car chase yeah in like 1852 or whatever that movie is set any Any others that you'd like to see get remade? Maybe Elektra? Not really. Steel? Ooh. Maybe. Yeah, maybe Steel.

Yeah, Steel. Steel? That's a good one. Would you do it after a death of Superman storyline? No. I would say unrelated. I would put it in this new DC universe. I think that'd be great though.

Okay. Although we are getting... See, the thing, we're getting Cyborg. Yes, we are. I would wonder if people would be confused by the two. I'm sure they would be. They would definitely be. Yeah, who cares? Yeah.

I would like to see a death of Superman. And would people also be like, oh, it's just a rip-off of War Machine? Oh, yeah, I guess so. But then again... Or Iron Man or any guy in a metal suit. But that's exactly... That's the thing. We're sort of splitting hairs in a universe where there's... It's not really an Iron Man or any guy in a metal suit. But that's exactly it. We're sort of splitting hairs in a universe where there's...

It's not really an Iron Man suit, though, is it? No. No, it's... Yeah. Yeah. Especially in the sense that there's multiple versions of the Flash. Yes, exactly. They're not exactly concerned.

Yeah, exactly. Just, yeah, I'd like to see a steel. Do a bloody John Henry Irons movie. I'd kind of like to see another Ghost Rider movie. What are you doing? What are you saying? I don't know. You don't mean movie I'd kind of like to see another Ghost Rider movie what are you doing what are you saying I don't know you don't mean that

I kind of do I like Ghost Rider which one what about a Ghost Rider Punisher team up nah I want to see like and Punisher's riding

side saddle on the back nah I don't want to see any of that don't like I'd like to see the Punisher team up

with somebody nice oh okay yeah like that Doctor Strange Punisher team up exactly like that yeah that'd be good exactly what about Spider-Man Punisher team up with somebody nice. Oh, okay. Yeah. Like that Doctor Strange Punisher team up. Exactly like that. Yeah, that'd be good. Exactly.

What about Spider-Man Punisher? Yep, definitely. See, I think it would have to be, because they've often teamed up in the past. Yes. In the comic books. I feel it should have to be somebody nice, but who's also okay with multiple murders.

So Spider-Man? No. I think Doctor Strange would be fine with it. Yeah, he probably would yeah he does he's probably how good is how good of a surgeon is he you think he could just do a lot of bullet removals no i just mean like he's probably killed a lot of hours yeah no definitely yeah it's dr stranger good enough surgeon where he could fix his own hands if his hands were okay but he's stuck in a weird vortex. Oh, almost certainly, yeah.

I'm the only doctor good enough. He's the only one who's good enough, yeah. I don't know. Maybe that's an episode as well. Comic book movies I'd like to see remade. Yeah. Yeah. I'd like to see Batman 89 remade with all original cast members.

No. Wait. You can't improve on perfection, obviously. We should do an episode on superhero team-ups, we'd like to see. Okay, sure. As opposed to our superhero showdown. Bloody superhero, bloody love him. Okay, good.

I'd be all for that. This is from Dash on the Twittersphere. We do a lot of little sketches. Yes, we could. Hi, it's me. I'm the Punisher. I'm the Punisher's friend. Batman.

I've done it. Wow. Nailed it. me. I'm the Punisher. I'm the Punisher's friend. Batman. I've done it. Wow. Nailed it. Weird that they're friends in that universe. Well, they're friends, aren't they? It's team ups. It's team ups, Mason. I don't know.

I've opened a can of worms with this. Team ups doesn't mean they have to get along. Kind of does. No, it doesn't. In a way, it does. In a way. Well, they don't kill each other then, yeah. This is from Dash.

Hashtag weekly planet pod. what's your fave bad movie okay also can i be the official unspecified astromech droid of the podcast so a movie i guess that generally is considered bad that you love something to think about isn't it so i should have thrown this to you before it's fine i'll think on my feet all right now all i can think of is ghost rider 2 yeah well that is a that is one, isn't it? I don't know if I love it. What do you love that is bad? I kind of love, it's strange, no one's going to know this,

although maybe, there's a Keanu Reeves football comedy called The Replacements. Okay, sure. Where the, it's kind of like what's happening with the Eston Football Club at the moment, if anybody knows what the hell I'm talking about. don't really follow for drug cheats drug cheats know where the whole team is kind of the original nfl team whatever it is who are the best i don't know anything about american football but i kind of like american football movies it's weird

they're they have to be replaced because they go on strikes they get this kind of mishmash of kind of misfit kind of football players and they've all got very specific skills. So they need the guy who kicks the ball really far. I can't remember what that person... One guy's an explosives expert. That's right. One guy's an escape artist.

That's it. So like that guy who has to kick the ball far is like an English... One's a girl. One's a girl. One's a sexy lady who's always just been all seductive. Like, you know, he's like an English soccer league player. Keita Reeves is like this ex-failed quarterback who's given a second chance.

Favreau's in it. He's like a right-control police officer. Gene Hackman's the coach. It's goofy and corny, but it's fun. I kind of like it. Great. Yeah. And what about you?

I only like good movies it's not true i like superman 4 because it was like i think it was the first movie i ever saw in your life maybe yeah okay and i was like this is amazing and i was like dad was that amazing he was like nah that was shit no he was he was all for it. Even back... Okay. You can't Google bad movies that I love, can you? No, I'm just checking to see if I literally have one on my iPad that I just hold on to. Do you like The Room and stuff like that? I've seen it once.

I saw it with a bunch of people. We had a good time, but I don't... See, I think there are a lot of people who can go back and recapture the magic of that. We're all throwing spoons and we're all doing this kind of thing i'm okay with just seeing it the once right right yeah i know people who go back week after week but but even they're wrong they're bloody wrong i've just looked up good bad movies and i've just i don't know they've got like batman and robin i that's i couldn't watch that no you know okay here's one suburban commando you ever seen that i've seen

suburban commando yeah i don't know if i'd watch it again, but it's pretty. Or Santa with Muscles. There's a lot of bloody Hulk Hogan movies here. That's weird. Yeah. I don't like Sharknadoes and stuff like that. No, neither do I. Because they're like intentionally, look, it's a Bay movie.

Did you see Lawnmower Man? Yes, I did. Isn't that notoriously like a terrible good movie? Yeah, but it's terrible, but it's not enjoyable. Oh, it's unpleasant. No's terrible but it's not enjoyable oh it's unpleasant okay fair enough maybe a smoky and the bandit sequel i think i used to like those movies when i was a kid i don't know man crank that's kind of good is it yeah see that's the thing like whenever people like oh what's he what's he guilty pleasure film i'm like i like that because it's

funny yeah like it's not that's like it's ridiculous and it's over the top they didn't do that accidentally they didn't go on no we we accidentally had him fall out of a plane and land on the ground but he's still alive for somehow we should have fixed that in post but we released it like they did that deliberately because it's not a wink to the audience like yeah they absolutely did just enjoy what you like that's what i say you're in a movie that everybody seems to love and i hate what's that kung fu hustle i hate that film yeah we've discussed this i hated it we saw it together yeah we did we hated it there yep and we hate it now it's a weird cartoon world i don't know it's hate it all right that's the show shout out to danny on twitter who was listening to the podcast as he was waiting for his flight and he didn't hear that they changed the gate

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Now, next week. Yes. Is it time that we talk about the Christopher Reeve Superman movies? Sure, let's do that. I'll watch them all again. Do you really watch them all again? I'll watch snippets of them again. You'll watch retrospectives on YouTube.

I'll watch if there's a video on YouTube that's 10 hours of Superman throwing the cellophane S in Superman 2. I'll watch that. Yeah, so if you have any thoughts on the Christopher Reeve Superman movies, please hashtag Weekly Planet Pod. Favorite moments in them. Favorite moments, yeah. Are we going to include Superman Returns?

We'll have to. It's the same bloody universe. I think kind of three and four will kind of gloss over. Or probably gloss over. A lot of them blend together. Yeah. Because I know that, you know, I guess not to give anything away, but you're not a massive fan.

Well, you've spoken about it before, of that universe. That's awful for many reasons. We'll definitely get to it. So I want to get into that. So, yeah, maybe next week, depending if something, maybe we'll do a Gods of Egypt episode. See, that might become a bad movie that I love. I just don't know yet.

You just don't know yet. There you go. All right. That's the show. We did it. That's the bloody show. We'll see you guys next week maybe you you bloody you bunch of bloody gooses that's right we're really we really own that 18 plus

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