The Weekly Planet - 139 Best Cartoons To Adapt Into Movies

Episode Date: June 13, 2016

With Voltron Legendary Defender being pretty good we thought we’d talk cartoons like we’d like to get adapted into live action movies with a whole bunch of your suggestions!Plus we get into the In...justice Gods Among Us 2 reveal, Superman appearing in Supergirl, Pacific Rim 2 casting, Alien Covenant, the Aquaman movie and more! Thanks as always for listening.4:40 Injustice Gods Among Us 211:41 Superman in Supergirl Season 213:51 John Boyega joins Pacific Rim 215:41 Alien Covenant rumours18:52 Sacha Baron Cohen cast as Mandrake The Magician23:28 James Wan talks why Aquaman26:17 Voltron Legendary Defender31:45 Cartoons to adapt into films1:29:30 What We Reading/What We Gonna Read1:35:58 Letters It’s Time For LettersBuy Standy Uppy Horse on Amazon: https://amzn.to/33ocbMdPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesMr Sunday Movies YouTube Channel: https://goo.gl/lB90W2The Weekly Planet YouTube Channel: https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHFind out T-Shirts here: https://goo.gl/q6gE9C Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret, the other a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+. Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Weekly Planet, official podcast of comicbookmovie.com where we talk movies, comics, TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday. With me as always is my co-host, Nick Mason. Why would you do that?
Starting point is 00:00:49 Because I figured clean edit. You can just cut that cough out. Oh, I'll just take that right. That really atrocious wet cough, you can just take it out. It's cold out. It's freezing. I don't know if you noticed. I put a hoodie on.
Starting point is 00:01:03 I wasn't wearing a hoodie. I'm going to use this blanket. That's my dog's blanket, but go for your life. No,'t know if you noticed. I put a hoodie on. I wasn't wearing a hoodie. I'm going to use this blanket. That's my dog's blanket, but go for your life. No, I'll take it anyway. No, it isn't. Okay, so look, Mason. Video game stuff's happening at the moment. It's probably E3.
Starting point is 00:01:13 Yeah, it is, isn't it? I don't bloody know. This could be a dog's bed. It's got all sorts of... It's got wood chips in it. What's going on there? Good. Can't help you, mate.
Starting point is 00:01:19 Were you sleeping rough? I can't tell you. Look, what I get up to when you're not here is none of your business, quite frankly. That's true, actually. So the biggest reveal is sleeping on construction The biggest reveal in terms of like comic books and like yeah injustice 2 was officially announced rights reveal We got the reveal trailer and we got the reveal trailer then we also got some footage that was just released Oh, I don't say that should I look at it's like combat. Okay, so if you want to check it out you can are they doing their armor stuff yeah there's a little bit of stuff yeah
Starting point is 00:01:48 yeah that's that's the new that's the new gimmick i guess a lot of people were saying like it's dumb why do they need armor or whatever but in the last one it was just like a magic pill so it's all dumb like it doesn't matter we've got a magic pill it makes everybody indestructible you can all fight superman that's right so the the actual cinematic, because this is a sequel to the last one. Spoiler alert, I guess, if you haven't played it. At the end, Superman gets imprisoned. The evil Superman from the Injustice. The parallel universe, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:14 I think this is going to be set solely in the Injustice universe. Yeah, you were saying that the other day. So why do you think that? I don't know. It's just a vibe I get. Just a vibe. Yeah. So you don't think that there'll be like a good version of Superman?
Starting point is 00:02:28 Because, you know, there were two Supermen in the last one. There's two Batman. Well, that's true. I mean, I guess now that I think about it, in this trailer, we see everybody's all fighting each other. Yeah. You would think that if this is the evil Superman, they'd all just be fighting him. Exactly, yeah. Because he did ruin their world.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Because it's Batman. No, yeah. Because he did ruin their world. Because it's Batman... No, sorry. It's like the Flash fights Superman, or Batman fights Superman, then the Flash fights Batman, then Aquaman fights the Flash or something. And then they all jump into a pile at the end. They all pile up, yeah. Yeah. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:02:56 The characters of note that people saw, the Supergirls being introduced. Supergirl was in it for the first time, yeah. There was Gorilla Grodd. Yeah. He was showing up. Uh-huh. And there was another guy. Atrocitus.
Starting point is 00:03:07 Atrocitus, thank you. Who is the leader of the Red Lanterns. Yeah, he thinks he's pretty good, doesn't he? Yeah. Well, he has spit rage-fueled blood powers. So if you want to see that. That's very Netherrealm. That's very Mortal Kombat.
Starting point is 00:03:21 That's something you'd have to cut out of a podcast if somebody did it into a microphone. No, we're good. Great. I like the armor idea. I think that's great. It looks good. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:33 I like a fun little novelty. It looks like the Batman Beyond kind of armor. That's true, yeah. And Batman's appears to have, at least in some of the promo footage, it seems to have a green glow to it. Yes. Maybe it's Kryptonite powered.
Starting point is 00:03:48 I would hope so, yeah. Yeah, but I think think because you know netherrealm and mortal kombat they always like to add in a new dynamic yeah new dynamic and i think maybe this one because you know sometimes it's switch fighting styles yes or it's like he's got or it's a weapon he's got knives and he can switch them out or whatever um yeah maybe this one is you get different you get different power set and you get different strength levels armor on armor off and they seem to add kind of a different element whilst generally keeping the previous elements like environments where you can like you can throw something into a train or yeah or whatever like that's something that started like ages ago just kind of i also think it was a very good the the first one also had a quite a good single player story yeah i'd agree with that just and also the comic
Starting point is 00:04:26 is very way better than you think it would be yeah i mean initially because i jumped off it a bit but um yeah i avoided it initially because it's got that kind of like injustice generally has that kind of how do we get the good guys to fight each other just kill lois line who cares kind of thing which is a bit gross kind of thing but i'm okay with it. It's a good motivation to get Superman. But see, that's the thing. If it's just a motivation, like... Yeah, yeah. I guess, though, I guess if, you know, Lois Lane is kind of an enduring character.
Starting point is 00:04:54 So I feel like, well, if you take all that into account. But if you don't, then it's just like, don't just kill the wife. Who cares? Oh, but what I was going to say is, but the comic book series is a lot better. Yes. You would assume that. Oh, yeah, totally. Yeah, absolutely. It is. Yeah. Tom Taylor, who's in town right now for Oz Comic Con. Oh, is what I was going to say is that the comic book series is a lot better. Yes. You would assume that. Oh, yeah, totally. Yeah, absolutely it is.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Tom Taylor, who's in town right now for Oz Comic Con? Oh, is he? I'm not there. I'm also not there. Can we not go together? Yeah, let's do it right now. Now, apparently this is also going to build in, you know you're talking about introducing a new element.
Starting point is 00:05:20 I am. In this one. I am and I was and I continue to. I won't shut up about it this one is going to be my blankie like you are my dog's blankie this one is going to introduce uh like an rpg style like build your character thing okay so i think like stats wise like yeah i guess so or that that could lead to problems that's exactly it and it's it also depends how you build that particular thing like can you just buy i was also gonna say right exactly like is it just you know people hate
Starting point is 00:05:49 microtrack transactions i definitely do i think if they don't affect the main core game i don't think it matters i think if it's like superficial shit yeah i don't i don't really like different hats yeah yeah i'll just like if it's if i start you know look at a multiplayer and it's like you can level up by buying stuff I just immediately immediately yeah it's like what's the point because there's some kid on the other side of the world who's got his parents credit card it's and he's just the road and until his parents notice that's the richest man in Babylon that's right yeah no he's I hate microtransactions anything I don't see that the problem
Starting point is 00:06:22 for me is that if it's RPG elements yeah what if you build your character i mean it's it's kind of a fine line because what if you build your character the wrong way right and then you get to the final boss and you're like oh if i had more powerful heat vision i could beat him in two seconds but i didn't acquire the more powerful heat vision so now i have to spend 10 bucks on right right but i mean i think netherrealm studios is smart enough. Like, they've been building fighting games long enough. That's true. Where that's not the case.
Starting point is 00:06:49 I really like, well, the last few Mortal Kombat's have been really good. Injustice was great. I really enjoyed Mortal Kombat DC. I know they had kind of watered down fatalities and that. But I thought that game was, I don't know. I thought it was really, really, really solid. Oh, I'm looking at Gorilla Grodd right now. How's he looking? Looks pretty.
Starting point is 00:07:08 Yeah, looks good. He's got that Gorilla City armor. Yeah. He's got a big old belly. He's got a big old belly. That's pretty good, isn't it? Yeah. Aquaman's got new powers.
Starting point is 00:07:17 He can... Squid floor. Squid tentacles. He's got squid floor. Yeah. Supergirl just got punched through a train. Batman's back. Didn't see that coming.
Starting point is 00:07:26 Oh, yeah. He's got kryptonite gloves. Okay. Yeah. Good stuff. That looks real good. Yeah, Supergirl just got punched through a train. Batman's back. Didn't see that coming. Oh, yeah, he's got kryptonite gloves. Okay. Yeah, that looks real good. Yeah, yeah. And look, I know the thing with the armor. Atrocious is vomiting. He's rage blood. That's your favorite, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:07:35 I don't think it matters whether it's a magic pill or an armor or whatever. As long as the mechanics are balanced and it's got a good choice of characters. Like a black manta. Atrocious just vomited up a uh a bull made of blood and blood lantern energy one would assume yeah that looks real good i'm excited for that good stuff yeah i think whatever the element is whether it be armor or whatever mega shark yeah as long as it's balanced it doesn't it doesn't really doesn't really matter what it is yeah yeah do you think they're gonna get because last time they got voice like tv voices and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Yeah. They got Stephen Amell as Green Arrow. If you use the Arrow version of Green Arrow, you've got Stephen Amell. That was like TLC, wasn't it? Yeah, yeah. But I'm excited. You get Melissa Benoist. Benoist.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Benoist. Yeah. The Supergirl. You get Grant Gustin as The Flash. Yeah, yeah. That'd be fun. That'd be great, yeah. You get Henry Cavill.
Starting point is 00:08:23 As who? You get Ben Affleck. As what? Probably Gorilla Grodd. I think Aff fun. That'd be great, yeah. You get Henry Cavill. As who? You get Ben Affleck. As what? Probably Gorilla Grodd. I think Affleck could do a great Gorilla Grodd. I'm sure he would. Okay, so look, you mentioned Melissa Benoist. So Supergirl's...
Starting point is 00:08:35 It rhymes with moist. I don't think it does. Supergirl's... Somebody, I think, sent us one of those pronunciation guide YouTubes, and it's how to pronounce her last name. I refuse to look at that. Me too. It's not the point of this show, is it?
Starting point is 00:08:48 Melissa Benoist, it rhymes with moist. That's the mnemonic I use. Season two of Supergirl, apparently the first two episodes will feature Superman. Not just like you see him from a distance or you see the back of his head or whatever. It's going to be actually Superman. Speculation is rampant
Starting point is 00:09:05 in terms of who they're going to get. Some people have said Tom Welling. What do you think, Tom Welling? I'd say Tom Welling, yeah. As been established by that Flash crossover,
Starting point is 00:09:12 there is the multiple dimensions and realities. Yeah, that's true. So in this reality, it could be that the Superman, you know, didn't have the exact Smallville origins
Starting point is 00:09:21 but he looks exactly like Tom Welling. That's totally fine, yeah. The Tom Welling version. Would you like to see him come back? Yes. And actually get a chance to play Superman? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:29 As opposed to the three seconds we saw him from a distance or whatever? Yeah, look, I've just Googled Tom Welling at 2016. Google image search, looks great. He looks better than ever. I think so. Do you think they could get Dean Cain, even though Dean Cain's already in the show? Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Get Dean Cain back. Double Supermans. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, do it. Do. Get Dean Cain back. Double supermans. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, do it. Do you like Dean Cain? I'm not against Dean Cain, but I don't really think about Dean Cain a lot in my daily life. Is that, should I be thinking about Dean Cain more? Guys, write in.
Starting point is 00:09:55 Should I be thinking about Dean Cain more? Well, Dean Cain probably doesn't think about you, so. Wow. I didn't mean that as an insult. That's a real revelation now that I think about you. Wow. I didn't mean that as an insult. That's a real revelation now that I think about it. Boy, I hadn't thought about Dean Cain and I was living my life just high and mighty. Until you realized that Dean Cain wasn't thinking about you.
Starting point is 00:10:15 He's probably never thought about me. It's like the ex-girlfriend, you only want back when she's moved on. That's right. She looks great. Just like Dean Cain, just like bloody Dean Cain or Tom Welling 2016. Okay, so John Boyega has apparently joined Pacific Rim.
Starting point is 00:10:31 If somebody sees Tom Welling at a convention, could you get him to think about me just briefly? Or Dean Cain. Or Dean Cain, I can't remember. It's fine. Either of them. John Boyega has joined Pacific Rim 2 and he's going to play. Is that on again?
Starting point is 00:10:45 I thought that was off. Yeah, yeah, because it did really well internationally. Okay. Like in China and stuff, which is what Warcraft has been doing as well. He's going to be playing the Idris Elba's character's son, whose name I don't remember. The guy whose job it was to cancel the apocalypse. Luther. Trouble Detective John Luther.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Trouble Detective Alcoholic British Luther. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, great. John Boyega, good on you, man. Wait, is Guillermo del Toro back or is he off? No, he's off. I always get these guys confused. I think it's Scott Derrickson,
Starting point is 00:11:15 but it might be the guy that I always get confused with, Scott Derrickson. And Erickson. Yes. Mobile phone. Tom Welling 2016 has got a bit of grey at the temples. Good for him, mate. That'll look great. That'll, mate. That'll look great. That'll look awesome.
Starting point is 00:11:25 That'll look great. That'll look great as an older Superman. Well, he was 45 when he played teenage Clark Kent. That's true. Who the fuck is directing this? I know it's not Del Toro. I imagine that's something they say in the production office every day. He hasn't shown up.
Starting point is 00:11:41 Or she. Let's go. What are we doing, guys? Stephen S. DeKnight. I always get those two confused. He was the Daredevil showrunner. Stephen S. DeKnight. That's a fancy old name.
Starting point is 00:11:53 You don't like it? You'd think he wouldn't need the S in the middle there. How many Stephen DeKnights are there? There's like seven. I've got seven on my Facebook, mate. All right, cool. How many do you have on your Facebook? I mean, I have seven to 12.
Starting point is 00:12:03 Yeah, I mean. Yeah, all right. Yeah, now that you mention it. Oh, good stuff. Yeah, great, cool. How many do you have on your Facebook? I mean, I have seven to 12. Yeah, I mean, yeah, you're right. Yeah, now that you mention it. Oh, good stuff. Yeah, great, good. So you're happy to see this franchise continue, and by that I mean you're indifferent or you love it? No, I'd like to see another one.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Okay, good. I'd definitely like to see another one. Yeah, yeah. I just want to see them just swing their swords at each other again. That'd be pretty good. We'll be talking about swinging swords in a bit, Mason. Yeah. And not in the way that some people might be thinking. Like it's some kind of sexual metaphor.
Starting point is 00:12:28 Oh, right. Sure. Okay. So Alien Covenant's happening. Yep. It's the Prometheus sequel. We can't stop it no matter what we do. Or maybe it's a Prometheus prequel.
Starting point is 00:12:37 It's not. Have they ever done a prequel to a prequel? Bloody hell, that's a good question. Is that the new frontier of... Yes. Red Dragon is a prequel to Silence of the Lambs and there's a Hannibal... What's it called?
Starting point is 00:12:52 The Hannibal... Hannibal Rising. Hannibal Rising is a prequel to that. There you go. That's a prequel to a prequel off the top of the dome, mate. Wow, that's pretty good. You know how many people could do that? Probably quite a few, actually.
Starting point is 00:13:01 Okay, so there's a character in that movie... Hang on, so which one was garbage? All of them. Though I don't mind Red Dragon. Yeah. I got to watch Hannibal, though. The TV series is really good. I really got to get into it.
Starting point is 00:13:12 You should definitely. It's really good. I mean, it's very intense. And then I'm out. Especially for network TV. Network TV? All sorts of guts are coming out. Like Dexter.
Starting point is 00:13:20 No, I feel it's more intense than that. Well, Dexter wasn't very good, so, you know. Let's start it off. Dexter it's more intense than that. Well, Dexter wasn't very good. So, you know, let's start it off. Dexter felt always, Dexter always felt more cartoony. Yes. I feel it's the, I feel Dexter and Hannibal are the shield and the wire. Okay. Right. Where I'm like, the shield's very good.
Starting point is 00:13:37 Yeah. But if I watch the wire and then I watch the shield, I'm just like, eh, it's a TV show. We're all having a little bit of fun. Everybody's having a good act. Chickless, you're a baby. You look like just a big baby. You're a big baby man with your little tight T-shirt.
Starting point is 00:13:50 You look like Captain Underpants. Are you familiar with Captain Underpants? No. Look him up while I'm talking about this and you'll see. I feel I don't want to Google Captain Underpants. I feel that's a trap. Okay, so there's a character called Daniels played by Katherine Watson. Now, the rumor is that it turns out that she's going to be playing,
Starting point is 00:14:09 this is just a rumor, Alan Ripley's mother. And she's the captain of this space crew who runs afoul of some aliens. Hmm. Destiny. Is it a bit destiny on the nose? Yes. Because if you count the video- It's a big universe.
Starting point is 00:14:22 It's a universe. It doesn't sound like a big universe according to this, Mason. It actually says brackets video... It's a big universe. It's a universe. It doesn't sound like a big universe, according to this, Mason. It actually says brackets, this isn't a big universe. So also there's the Alien Isolation video game, which has Alan Ripley's daughter, Helen Ripley, presumably. Yep.
Starting point is 00:14:37 But I think because it's a video game, it's kind of like, yeah, it's fine, it's a video game. But also, Ellen's daughter, Ellen Ripley's daughter. Yeah. She has... It's actually, Ellen Ripley's daughter. Yeah. She has- It's actually Amanda, but yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:47 Amanda Ripley. She actually has a reason to be doing what she's doing. Yes, that is a good point. Because she's specifically gone to find Ellen Ripley. Yeah. But with this, it's just a coincidence. Yeah, exactly. Stop doing these coincidences.
Starting point is 00:15:02 Also, who cares? What does it matter? If she's related or- So you're saying don't make her related because who cares? What does it matter? If she's related or... So you're saying don't make her related because who cares? Yes. Or who cares if she is related? Both of those things. Oh, no, wait.
Starting point is 00:15:12 No, I'm saying... Wait, which one am I saying? I don't know. I'm saying it shouldn't matter whether this character is related to Ellen Ripley or not. No, why would it? Yeah. Because there's no part of the first Alien, there's any inclination that Ripley knows anything about any of this, so what would it matter if her mother had seen it?
Starting point is 00:15:30 That's true, yeah. There's never a flashback where she's like, okay, I'll put this flamethrower together just like my mama taught me to do. You know what I mean? My flamethrower, just like mama used to make, you know? I know. Good stuff. Now, Mason.
Starting point is 00:15:42 Yes? Are you familiar with the actor, Sasha Baron Cohen? Yes. He's going to be playing Mandrake the Magician. Everybody, brace yourselves. Turn your volume down slightly. But for what? Mandrake the Magician, member of the superhero team,
Starting point is 00:16:01 the defenders of the earth. I don't know what you're talking about, mate. Listen. I'm not actually going to put it it oh you son of a bitch i only just realized this because i never listened back to this show because i'm on the show and why would i listen to it but anytime james okay i'm gonna do it backwards because he's gonna trick you or he won't trick you james has a a thing where he puts in an incredibly loud theme music drop, like an earphone, like a headphone eardrum breaking,
Starting point is 00:16:28 like audio drop of the theme song any time either of us mentions the cartoon series Defenders of the Earth. I don't know what you're talking about. Didn't put it in? Maybe he did put it in. Who's to say? But I hope that I've given everybody enough warning. Now that I know that happens.
Starting point is 00:16:44 So you didn't know I did that? No. But then occasionally I get a tweet from somebody and it just goes, oh, my ears. And I'm like, what are they talking about? It's just a picture of a bloody ear. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:55 So apparently it's the Get Hard director, Ethan Coen. Yeah, okay. So is they going to do this like a funny kind of Doctor Strange? Is that what they're aiming for here? That's a really good question. Does it say it all? Does it say action comedy? It doesn't.
Starting point is 00:17:07 But when I see Ethan Coen and Sacha Baron Cohen, I mean, I'm sure first of all, you go, are they brothers? They're not. They're mothers. No, they're not. They're not related. Mothers from other brothers. Mothers from other brothers.
Starting point is 00:17:18 You know, Sacha Baron Cohen can play it straight. And I don't know what else Ethan Coen is the director, but if you're a comedy director, it doesn't necessarily mean that you just make comedies obviously that's true yeah adam mccain a lot of people say that if you're good at comedy especially a lot of people say with performers if you're good at comedy you can switch over to drama yeah but the other way it doesn't work doesn't work yeah so i'm presuming this would be some kind of some kind of burt wonderstone-esque maybe yeah but is it real magic or not real magic? Yeah, well, that's right. Because Mandrake.
Starting point is 00:17:47 It's so vague. Mandrake's powers are incredibly vague. He can make like a big hologram of a snake that can grab you. Yeah. I don't know. Here's a question, though. Does he actually perform as a magician? Like, does he go and fight like villains with magic-style powers,
Starting point is 00:18:04 but then does he also go to a stage show? Yeah, I think he does, yeah. God, that must be... Because he's a famous magician, right? Yeah, I guess so. I guess you're right, yeah. So, no. So, do you think this will eventually lead into a Defenders of the Earth movie?
Starting point is 00:18:15 Do you think they're going to... Did he put the drop-in email in? I don't know, mate. I don't know. I don't think I would. I'm pretty responsible. Mandrake's mostly illusions. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:25 I've just double checked. Yeah, but it's that now you see me kind of illusions where it's like, how are you doing this? We'll see it's hypnosis. At various times in the comic strip, Mandrake has also demonstrated other powers, including turning invisible, shape-shifting, levitation, teleportation.
Starting point is 00:18:39 His hat, cloak, and wand are magic. So just anything. Yeah, pretty much. Although Mandrake publicly works as a stage magician there you go okay there you go yeah mandrake lives in xanadu a high-tech mansion at the top of mountain in new york state so he's got high he's high tech as well so what are they gonna do it's gonna be high tech is he gonna be a real man oh this is a this is a nightmare but i want to see it happen just see how it is here oh what if you know what
Starting point is 00:19:05 i would i would really enjoy it if the whole movie is just people going what is it you do exactly are you magic is this technology you hypnotist is this real is it a hologram what's going on is that a real demon if this is a comedy yeah would you like to maybe see this spin-off into we'd get defendersenders of the Earth. Did I put the thief song in? But it's more kind of wacky. So it's like a fun Avengers. Like it's like almost a spoof, not exactly like a scary movie or whatever, but a more lighthearted kind of Avengers style movie.
Starting point is 00:19:37 Oh, maybe. Because I don't think you could just build a serious super team with these characters and people would care. I think there would have to be something that would differentiate it whether that be a comedy thing or whether you make do a gritty reboot yeah okay well there was recently there was a in comic book form there was king's watch right which was a sort of a gritty reboot of these characters phantom etc two kids the other ones in the cartoon. And that was really, really good.
Starting point is 00:20:07 But that was quite serious in tone. Yeah, yeah. And again, I can't remember whether Mandrake's powers of magic are real. How does he do it? I don't know. I don't know. Okay, so James Wynne has spoken a bit about Aquaman this week. Yes, he did.
Starting point is 00:20:20 And he mentioned why he chose Aquaman over The Flash. Because he said, we've seen a few incarnations of The Flash. You know, we've got the TV version. There's been the 90s cartoons. Not cartoon. It's kind of like a cartoon. But it's live action with the weird foam muscle suit. John Wesley's ship.
Starting point is 00:20:35 That's right. But with Aquaman, he could create this whole new world. Don't you dare close your eyes for this character. We haven't seen Aquaman. We haven't seen Under the Water. No one's ever gone into the ocean in real life. Except for James Cameron. He's keeping all his secrets.
Starting point is 00:20:53 He only shares his underwater secrets with his billionaire friends. We don't know what's under there. No, that's true. Yeah. There's only so many times you can see the flash zipping through the city and watch that kind of red blur. Yeah. And if you look at the difference between the Quicksilver from Marvel and Fox, there's only so much kind of speed stuff you can kind of do.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Yeah, true. You know what I mean? Well, I would argue that the cartoon, like the comic book writers have done lots of incredible stuff. Yes, that is certainly true. But it seems to be an unwillingness to attempt some of that stuff on the big screen for fear of, I don't know, confusing audiences or something like that. But you're right, we've never really gone underwater in the DC universe.
Starting point is 00:21:31 And it's such a vast place and we've not seen like, you know, you could have underwater warships, you could have bloody all sorts of underwater monsters and deep sea Cthulhu kind of. Yeah, yeah. What's in the trench? What's in the bloody water? What's there?
Starting point is 00:21:47 Also, they mentioned this last week that Namor is back at Marvel. I don't know how or when that happened or if it's always been... Because it's always been a bit of confusion like the Universal own it or I think it might be Universal. But no, Marvel have him.
Starting point is 00:21:59 So we might see some variation on him at some point. I think James Wan directing Aquaman, I think he's a solid director. I think he'll do a really good job. Like his horror movies are great, especially for horror movies because horror movies are generally not great.
Starting point is 00:22:15 And he did the last Fast and Furious and he did it after Paul Walker passed away and he still managed to pull together like a coherent for a Fast and the Furious movie. Do you know what I mean? He adapted completely to that universe. That's true, yeah. So I just think...
Starting point is 00:22:30 You think he's a chameleon? Yeah, I think he could definitely... A directorial chameleon. Yeah, I think he'll definitely make something good out of this. Not definitely. Sure. You know what? Definitely.
Starting point is 00:22:39 Okay, good. I'm putting my bloody foot down. You've made a lot of proclamations recently about things that are definitely going to be good. This, Assassin's Creed, you said was definitely going to be great. No, I said either Warcraft or Assassin's Creed would be good. Yeah, okay. Now, look, I haven't seen Warcraft yet. It's been mixed.
Starting point is 00:22:56 Yeah. So I guess it's just Assassin's Creed or I have to, I don't know, draw a dick on my face or something. Is that right? Sure, right. That's what I have this sharpie for that I'm holding. Okay. All right, Mason, did you see New Vulture on Netflix?
Starting point is 00:23:10 I saw the first 40 minutes of episode one. What did you think? I liked it. And you know what I liked? Because the dialogue, it's got good comic timing. It does, doesn't it? For an action cartoon. It's weird.
Starting point is 00:23:22 I think that, for me, that would be the make or break. Yeah. I think I've me, that would be the make or break. Yeah. I think I've enjoyed all of it so far, but I think if it were kind of a joyless kind of... Serious. Yeah. I would be not interested at all. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:36 Like it looks great. The action looks great. Because I'm not a big fan. I know you're not either of that mix of cel-shaded 3D, but sort of 2D-looking models, basically 3D models with black lines on the edges. So how do you think that works in this? Look, it's okay.
Starting point is 00:23:56 See, I think it's really good. I think it's a really good blend. Like a lot of the time you really notice it, but this not as much because there's a fluidity to a CGI model that you can't get with hand-drawn animation. That's true, yeah. And I'm not saying that necessarily makes it better. Often it looks worse because it's too smooth.
Starting point is 00:24:16 You know what I mean? But no, I think this is the kind of best, especially on this kind of, because it's a TV series, not like a Disney movie or whatever. Yeah. I think it looks looks really good i think the reason it i because i looked into this i'm like why is this so good like why is this not terrible or at least average yeah who's writing this who's writing the people behind who did um avatar last airbender and legend of korra oh okay so that's why which i've never seen but a lot of people. I've heard nothing but good things. Yeah. So seeing this, I think I'm like six episodes in, makes me now like I should definitely
Starting point is 00:24:49 go back and watch that. And I know people have been screaming at us for years. Yeah, sure. There's a lot of series to get through. Yeah, absolutely. They've made a few changes. Like the core team is different. Look, it's been so long since I've seen Voltron.
Starting point is 00:25:02 Yeah. I mean, first of all, it's lions. It's not like cars. What are you even saying? That's the worst Voltron. It's not cars and helicopters and jets and stuff. Cars Voltron is balls Voltron. It's got bloody roller skates.
Starting point is 00:25:14 It's not either lions. I don't understand. You don't understand nothing. No, I'm just kidding, guys. There were two Voltrons. There were actually three. There was also a gladiator Voltron, which never kind of got off the ground.
Starting point is 00:25:23 You could get the toy. I don't know whether you could get it outside of Japan, but they were, they were doing more, more Voltrons than you care to imagine. But this is, and look, I haven't seen the original Japanese incarnation of Voltron, which is apparently a lot dark and I'm sure it's amazing. A bloody parallel, non-parallel world. I'm sure it's not amazing. But this is easily the best version of Voltron that we've had.
Starting point is 00:25:44 At least that I've seen. And I'm sure the best version of Bolshan that we've had at least that I've seen and I'm sure the Japanese version is amazing whatever and I'm sure there's some third films that are great
Starting point is 00:25:50 there's some CGI models that people have made that are great yeah gritty reboot but again this comes back to Netflix
Starting point is 00:25:57 they're really good at making exactly the thing that they set out to make we mentioned this last week like Fuller House
Starting point is 00:26:04 I'm not saying it's good but it's exactly what it should be. Those shit Adam Sandler movies that they keep making for them. I haven't seen any of them. I'm sure they're shit. That's hard to say. That's how he keeps getting away with it because it's really difficult for people to say that and they're just like, oh, just let him do it. But they're exactly what they're supposed to be.
Starting point is 00:26:26 You know what I mean? And a lot of it more serious series. What am I doing? Serious, serious. You're trapped in a pronunciation loop. Your brain is decided it can only say things that are very difficult to pronounce. You know what I mean? They're just...
Starting point is 00:26:38 Antimicrobial. Yeah, that's right. They're just not really dropping the ball on any of this. Defenders of the earth. I like the shift in the team dynamic. I'm not sure whether... Because at the start of the series, it's not exactly the original Voltron team. That's true.
Starting point is 00:26:50 The leader is not the leader who was in the original cartoon. And I wonder whether there will be a change in that as it kind of goes along. Because also one of the team members is not initially who you'd think they might be. I don't know. I just haven't finished it, but I really enjoy it. And you should watch it, Mason. I have been watching it. You should watch it. I just haven't finished it, but I really enjoy it. And you should watch it, Mason. I have been watching it. You should watch it.
Starting point is 00:27:07 I've literally watched some of it. And again, saying I only watched 40 minutes of the first episode, I just ran out of time. Absolutely, you did. I did. Good stuff. But yeah, it's good. Real fun.
Starting point is 00:27:16 And yeah, good timing. Yeah. Like it's not even just everybody saying wacky things. Yeah, that's right. It's like there's great pregnant pauses and there's great like tiny little turns of phrase, little inflections in what people say that kind of really make it work. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret. The other, a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost.
Starting point is 00:27:52 FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+. Now, this Voltron show got me thinking, Mason. Oh, yes. Got me thinking that a live-action Voltron could definitely be done. Uh-huh. Well. Should it be done? Well, that is the other question.
Starting point is 00:28:10 So I thought this week, and I put this out on Twitter, though you want to tweak it a little bit, don't you, this topic for this week? You want to ruin things at the 11th hour. Yeah, I love to ruin things. I love to ruin things. That cartoons that could perhaps be adapted into live-action movies. Yeah. But then again, are they better served as cartoons?
Starting point is 00:28:28 Is that what you... Well, no, I was like, well, what should we bring back? What are we doing? We're mining nostalgia, as we do a lot of weeks. Sure. We're just getting some old stuff. Yeah. Getting some old stuff.
Starting point is 00:28:39 We're like, can we bring some of this back? Can we bring it back as a live-action movie? Can we do a gritty reboot of the original concept? Could we bloody, I don't know, do some other stuff with it? Should we bury it forever? Should we gather up every copy of the VHS and DVD of whatever it is and destroy them all? Like original Voltron.
Starting point is 00:28:57 Correct. Car version. What? So I've got a big list here from twitter as well that people would that people would want to say let's knock them off real quick yeah let's just we could probably do this in six or seven minutes all right uh so okay let's start with voltron yeah is that something you want to see i it is in the works there was some concept art released i think maybe pacific rim kind of put a halt on that but i think now with the success of this series
Starting point is 00:29:26 and Pacific Rim didn't do as well as they'd initially think and depending on how well the next one does. But then you've also got Power Rangers so that plays in. I say this because they're all giant robot smashing monsters or whatever. Wow, that's giant robotist. They're not all the same mate. They're all the same.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Wow. This is something I really want to see and maybe it's because this is a property that i really enjoyed when i was when i was a kid but i don't know especially in this new show i love the dynamic i loved how the all the characters play off in each other off each other and also how the lions themselves have kind of personalities and strengths and weaknesses and that's not something they really had in the original lion like the black line was kind of bigger sure that was pretty much like in this one like the red one is kind of it's faster and kind of more unpredictable and dangerous and the yellow one's more durable like a tank and whatever and i don't know i really i really like that and i think there's something that could be done really well
Starting point is 00:30:23 with it having seen again this series yeah having seen like yeah yes having seen like the you know the two-thirds of this first episode we did get like the blue lion and he's engaged in a space battle with that kind of battle cruiser kind of yeah i would love to see that in well not live action but you know like cgi live action with human pilots you know you know what i'm talking about exactly what you mean yeah it just kind of tears across the hull. Yeah. It's great. I would like to see that in, yeah, non, in photorealistic CGI.
Starting point is 00:30:50 Yeah, cool. You know what I mean? All right, well, let's see if it happens, Mason. Okay. Will it happen? Yeah, I think it will. Will it be great? I think it could be, depending on who you put on it.
Starting point is 00:31:00 I think studios are now more careful about not just going, ah, whoever, to direct it. Oh, yeah. Like they actually look for somebody to go, look, we want to do this property. Let's property properly. He's in it again. He's in the loop.
Starting point is 00:31:14 What's happening? Property properly. Then you get someone of substantial talent. Oh, boy. You know what it is? I had some bloody peanut butter before I started. Oh, your famous vodka peanut butter. It's vodka infused, guys.
Starting point is 00:31:31 He makes it in his basement. It's weird. So, what was I even saying? So, what you're saying is you've eaten peanut butter and you've gummed your mouth up like Mr. Ed. What was I saying before? Like they got the horse to talk at Mr. Ed by feeding it peanut butter. So it was like, nom, nom, nom.
Starting point is 00:31:50 I thought it would give me strength, but it didn't. It's made you weak. What was I even saying? Something about property properties. Yeah, I think they take these more seriously in terms of if they want people to watch them. Don't just give G.I. Joe to any dickhead, which they may have done. They did twice. They did as Stephen Sommers did the first one.
Starting point is 00:32:10 I quite like the first one. I didn't mind it either. That being said, I watched it on a plane. But in the second one, didn't they just wipe out the original cast? Yeah, most of them. They're like bringing Bruce Willis and The Rock. I think that was because they thought Channing Tatum was on the way out. But after they'd filmed initially, then they were like, oh shit, actually everyone loves Channing Tatum.
Starting point is 00:32:26 So they got him back to do some extra kind of stuff, but he still leaves in like the first 15 minutes. All right, okay. Yeah. And with Channing Tatum out, they're like, actually every other cast member, we're going to kill you all.
Starting point is 00:32:37 That's right. Okay, they've got one here from Paulie P on Twitter. Oh yeah. You'll hear this a dozen times, but Thundercats could be interesting. What do you think of Thundercats? There's a lot of groundswell. There's a lot of groundswell for people to bring.
Starting point is 00:32:53 A lot of fans want that to come back. Somebody made a fan trailer a while back. Yeah, I remember it. You hate it. I was like, that's pretty good. And you were like, fuck this. It sucks. Unpleasant.
Starting point is 00:33:01 It's got some bloody... It's got Vin Diesel, right? Vin Diesel. It's got Brad Pitt. Yeah. As Lion-O. Don't like it? No.
Starting point is 00:33:08 Yeah. I thought for a fan trailer, it was pretty solid. Look, in my... Look, back in the day, you were either a fan of Thundercats or Silverhawks. Not both. You couldn't be both. I think you could be both. No, you could not be both.
Starting point is 00:33:21 Because they were the same show, in essence. That's true. They're all the same show, aren't they? Yeah, that's, yeah. Yeah, Silverhawks had Monster. And Thundercats had Mumra. Mumra. Yeah, right?
Starting point is 00:33:32 Exactly. And they both transformed into a bigger version. They both transformed into a more monstrous form. Exactly, yeah. I remember that being quite scary, those transformations as a kid. Wow. Yeah. Maybe I'm just easily frightened.
Starting point is 00:33:43 It's probably true. True, true. Yeah, what about, okay about either of those then? If you had to pick Silverhawks or not Thundercats? I think I'm more a sci-fi guy than a fantasy guy. Not that either of these are fantasy or sci-fi, ultimately. Well, they both have spaceships. One of them has cats.
Starting point is 00:33:58 I can't remember which one. That's no way of knowing. I think I'd prefer to see Thundercats. Bearing in mind Silverhawks had guy, and he was a Silverhawk, but he also wore a cowboy hat to play the guitar. Obviously, that is a factor. Look, if it would help, we could do Thundercats, but we could get the Silverhawk in.
Starting point is 00:34:17 He plays the guitar and he has the cowboy hat. We'll have him do a guest role. Okay, let's do that. Yeah, okay, cool. You had one before on your screen. What was it? It was a cowboy 80s show. What was that one called, okay, cool. Yeah, yeah. You had one before on your screen. What was it? It was a cowboy 80s show. What was that one called?
Starting point is 00:34:27 Oh, Brave Star. Brave Star. His horse was anthropomorphic. Oh, no. Anthropomorphic. Oh, no. It's the pronunciation episode. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Yeah. Well, he wasn't always anthropomorphic. He was a regular horse, but like an intelligent regular horse, like a cyborg horse. And then he would, like if Bravestar needed backup, he would like... Rear up? He would like rear up and he would, I guess his legs would,
Starting point is 00:34:54 like his back legs would click forward so they were regular. His knees would snap. Yeah, and he'd draw his own rifle. Could he talk? Yeah. That's great. Wait, before or after the transformation? Both. That's great. Wait, before or after the transformation? Both.
Starting point is 00:35:06 That's incredible. So he had like metal legs that would like click into place? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, that's great. Yeah, I think I had the action figure. And he'd whip out his hat? He'd often whip out his hat. Don't you think that's a weird relationship to have with another intelligent being?
Starting point is 00:35:23 It'd be like we did the podcast together and then you like ride me home or whatever exactly click your legs back into place we're going it's very strange yeah he was on the planet of new texas right planet new texas he's another character where everybody immediately is going to go just get the rock. Even the horse. He's a big, broad guy and he's ethnically ambiguous. Yeah, both of them, right? Yeah, absolutely. Here's the thing, though. Bravestar could call on spirit animals.
Starting point is 00:35:54 Ah. And I don't think you can use spirit animals anymore. No, I don't think that's a thing. It's weird. Would there be another way you could do it where you could be like, you don't call it spirit animals? Yeah, almost certainly.
Starting point is 00:36:03 Just be like tech bird. I don't know. You Yeah, almost certainly. Just be like, Tech Bird. I don't know. You could say Tech Bird. Yeah. Good. Great stuff. What was that other one? This is going to be an episode of what was that other one?
Starting point is 00:36:12 Yeah. But you know what, Bravestar? I don't think so. Eventually, the nostalgia well is going to run dry and every single one of these properties is going to come forth. Yeah. Look, you couldn't do it as a... It wouldn't work as a gritty reboot because again,
Starting point is 00:36:27 standy uppy horse, standy uppy cyborg horse, it's not going to work. Or could you do it as like a, could you do it as like a last days of the wild west kind of thing? Or like, like it's an apocalyptic future on this planet. Right. And like, you could do it like a, like an old man Logan kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:36:44 Sure. That would work. But with a standy-uppy horse. With a standy-uppy horse, right? But it could be maybe all his systems are malfunctioning and he's only a regular horse now. Yeah. He's always like, oh, I remember back in the day
Starting point is 00:36:55 when I was a standy-uppy horse. Those were great days. Great days, you know? And it's maybe, and they're just, and it's just this bleak landscape and they're like, they're traveling across the- Well, they're doing post-apocalyptic Zorro. So I guess it's, I guess I'd rather see that.
Starting point is 00:37:11 Yeah, me too. Yeah, I mean, that's only one step removed from people recognizing it. Like, hey, you remember Zorro? Yes, I do remember Zorro. Now it's the post-apocalypse. Yeah, this one's like, do you remember Lone Star? No.
Starting point is 00:37:23 Well, okay, so there's a first of all what was lone star yeah because now it's three steps removed because it's do you remember lone star not really well it was this cartoon oh wait i'm thinking brave star that's two steps no okay well imagine brave star he's a he's a future lawman in space and he's and he lives on another planet and he's got spirit animals. We can't say spirit animals anymore, so that's three steps. Right. And then it's also he's got a cyborg horse.
Starting point is 00:37:50 Sometimes he's like police partner. There is a Lone Star TV series, but it's not what I'm thinking of. Do you remember Skeleton Warriors? It was all so bloody. Okay. What I was going to go back to was the Silverhawks. Silverhawks had a better rogues gallery, I think. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:38:03 Than Thundercats because it was all these escaped like weird high-tech criminals okay so it was like there was a guy called molecular and you could shape shift into anything okay sure and it was like a villainous version of this silver hawk who had the guitar and you know you know what i'm talking about a villainous version who had a guitar i like that yeah you need it yeah and this guy yeah anyway what i'm saying is better better rogues gallery i think okay cool that being said brave start definitely no what was that one and it was a bit like this but it was but it was like galaxy rangers okay i remember i'm on board with the galaxy rangers movie gritty reboot it it would work. It's fine. They were like planet... Again, they were like US Marshals, but in space.
Starting point is 00:38:51 Right. And they all had cyborg powers. Yeah, like arms and legs. Yeah, the leader had a bionic arm and a kid like... Oh, they rode robot horses. Yes. Yeah, I remember this. Maybe get rid of the robot horses, but...
Starting point is 00:39:02 None of them. Everything else would... Okay, fine, we'll bring it back. They have to be standy-uppy robot horses. Yeah, of remember this. Maybe get rid of the robot horses, but everything else would... Okay, fine. We'll bring it back. They have to be standy-uppy robot horses. Yeah, of course they do. But they had like superpowers. They had the cyborg arm and it can give him incredible strength and he could also like energy blast or whatever.
Starting point is 00:39:14 And one guy could like transform into like any... He could transform into any kind of whatever indestructible form he needed at the time. Right. So he turned into like diamond or like steel or like obsidian glass or whatever, like whatever would. That's cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:29 Okay. One guy had computer powers. There was a girl. Wow. Yeah, I know, right? Pretty good. You know what? If you want to kill the Western even more,
Starting point is 00:39:40 then just make another one of those. Yeah. No one's going to see any of that. Do you remember? People would see Galaxy any of that. Do you remember? People would see Galaxy Rangers, surely. Do you think people would see Cops? Oh, I remember Cops. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:51 It was kind of Galaxy Rangers, but they were just cops. But they also had robot arms and horses or whatever. Yeah, look, there was a guy called, the main character, his name was BP Vess, right? Yeah. And they would call him, which stood for Bulletproof Vess. Because he was bulletproof, right? Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:40:10 But he was, anyway, the point was that he was the leader of the cops. Yeah, yeah. And he was like, I don't know, maybe, I don't know, because there was a comic book adaptation as well. I don't remember if this was in the cartoon, but definitely in the comic books, he was riddled with bullets. Like always? No, but I mean, he was machine gunned.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Like to death? No, yeah, to before he was a cyborg. Oh, okay, right, right, right. That's why he was the way he was, and then he was rebuilt as a cyborg. He got Robocopped. Yeah, he got Robocopped, exactly. Man, I'd... Maybe that's what happened.
Starting point is 00:40:39 I hadn't thought about that in years, but man. Oh, you're welcome. There was a guy who was like a one-man SWAT team. Yeah, he's called a SWAT, I think. He had a jet pack and guns and grenades, and there's an issue with the gun. Why isn't it just him? What's that? I hadn't thought about that in years. But, man. You're welcome. There was a guy who was like a one-man SWAT team. Yeah, he's called a SWAT, I think. He had a jet pack and like guns and grenades. Yeah. And there's an issue with the gun.
Starting point is 00:40:47 Why isn't it just him? What's that? Why isn't it just him? If he's a one-man SWAT team, you only need him. That's true. Yeah, but you need people to fill in parking tickets. You need to help people cross the road. Good point.
Starting point is 00:40:59 You need traffic control. Yeah, you're right. You know what I mean? You need a cop with that stop and go sign except it's a cyborg stop and go sign it's just his arm it's just his arm and it's built in but man isn't it there's an issue with the comic book where it's just he's it's the SWAT guy and he just goes into like a tenement and he just bloody kills everybody it's great it was for children i assume but but it was the 80s yeah so it doesn't matter there matter. There was a guy who was like, one of the villains was like a 1920s gangster.
Starting point is 00:41:27 He had like a Tommy gun. But he also had like- Did he come through time or something? No, he was just a future guy. Great work. But he also had like, he could open up, because he had like an old gangster style, like a double-breasted suit, and he would pull it open and he had like more guns in there. The cyborg guns built in.
Starting point is 00:41:43 It was great. So, look, this would not work. No, it's too much. It's too much. And it's also like they're cops that shoot first and ask questions later in many ways. And I don't think the world wants that right now. Not to get political.
Starting point is 00:42:01 It's not what people are looking for. Yeah. Okay, fair enough. What about robot cops that shoot first and ask questions later? Yeah, they're pretty good. It is too much to have like a squad of robo cops, isn't it? And one of them is pretty much a squad unto himself. Right.
Starting point is 00:42:15 Oh, and they had a robot dog. It was a robot dog. A stand-up-y dog? No, it was just a regular dog. A regular robot dog. A regular robot dog. Exactly, yeah. Brian W. Crumley on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:42:28 This says that Baldwin P. Vess was in a car wreck and that's why he got riddled with bullets. I feel in a comic book that I'm completely imagining and I have no actual memories of that he was riddled with bullets. Okay. Somebody tell Mason on Twitter at Wikipedia Brown. Don't tell me. Okay, cool, great.
Starting point is 00:42:43 Actually, no, I'm interested if you don't tell me also yeah Brian oh there was a guy called Longarm there was a guy called Longarm and he had like a because they were all
Starting point is 00:42:51 action figures as well because that was it was just an excuse but he had like a he had like a one inspected gadget arm no but it was like it was like a
Starting point is 00:42:59 like a handcuffed grappling hook right was it a standy uppie yeah a grappling hook and he also in the a standy-uppy grappling hook? And he also, in the comic, he also had a goop gun that he could secure criminals with it. He could shoot them with a goop and they'd be gooped to the ground.
Starting point is 00:43:13 That's pretty good. It's pretty great. And kind of gross. How much goop is in a canister of goop? How often are you reloading that? Oh, that's a good question. Look, I don't think real physics applied to it. There was a lot of goop in that gun.
Starting point is 00:43:25 It was just a regular-sized gun. I bet it's just like cans of soup that he could just load into it. Yeah. I think you could subdue someone with just an unopened can of soup. If you fired that into someone's head, they're probably going to stop robbing the bank. What are you telling me about somebody who just... Yeah, I was.
Starting point is 00:43:43 No, tell that story. Okay, so on the way home from when I was a teen man, we used to go home, we'd pass another school and we'd throw fruit at each other. Like that was the... Your rival schools. Yeah, the rival schools. Who was your rival school?
Starting point is 00:43:56 I don't know how to say it. Okay, right. Because then the criminal... It wasn't really a rival. The criminal charges will reapply. Yeah, like all these rivals between schools. It's just you happen to live in a slightly different area than someone right exactly yeah so that's eternal enmity yeah forever but you know so it was a bit a bit of a bloody laugh mate and one day a guy on the bus who used to drink on the bus he'd have like i was telling
Starting point is 00:44:19 the other day he'd have like a big bottle of bundy bundaberg rum that's right the handle so like this he's like how old is this guy he would have been 16 17 right okay um and he took a whole can of tuna and threw it and he hit a girl in the head a can of tuna yeah i don't know what happened to her i'm sure she was fine i think i would have heard about it if it wasn't but he's like yeah i did it we're all like no that's not what we're doing because you were saying you changed the rules you would tenderize the fruit yeah we tenderize the fruit up yeah that's how you do it mate yeah that being said please don't throw fruit at people that's not something i could or um we had a bus driver used to hand out cigarettes to people children kids and then
Starting point is 00:45:00 when we'd go past he'd like come up the front and I'll open the bus door. So he'd open the door on this bus going like 60 and people would just like throw fruit out. It was madness. While smoking. Yes, while smoking. Just having a bloody durry, mate. Just punching a dart in the back of the bus just with the license of your driver.
Starting point is 00:45:19 Was he smoking as well? Yeah, he was. I remember the time thinking, oh man, that guy's pretty cool. But now I'm like, what a total fucking idiot that guy is, right? In hindsight, what is wrong with him? Was he there for a while and then he was fired? He did disappear. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:36 Maybe I left. I don't know. But yeah, just so weird, right? Very odd. That's a man who did not give a fuck. Yeah, right. I want to see that TV, that movie adapted. God.
Starting point is 00:45:50 That's what would happen back in the day. People would just drive. Anybody in the public transport industry, they'd just bloody, they'd smoke and they'd read the paper on the steering wheel when they were driving. Absolutely. Back in the 70s. Yeah, totally. Just have a couple of beers at lunch and then get back on.
Starting point is 00:46:04 Just get on the, just get on the Terps. That's right, mate. Get on the bloody Terps. Okay, this is from, I've been trying to say this, Ryan M. Crumley. He said, will you get around to the Warcraft review? We'll do it next week. It's not out of here yet. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:18 Can't wait to see it, though. And he also said his votes for DuckTales. And Dylan Bernardino says Darkwing Duck. So what I'm thinking is, would you like to see a DuckTales universe that has all that entails, as it were, that's not, I didn't do that intentionally, in that world?
Starting point is 00:46:36 I know you're a big fan of the show. You've been on the podcast It's a Duck Blur. I have, yes. You love those episodes? I do. Do you want to see this? You get to see Gizmoduck, Darkwing Duck, Launchpad McQuack. Well, here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:46:49 Would this be part of a larger- Duckiverse. Well, a Disneyverse. Or would it be its own thing? See what I'm saying? Do I have to reboot the whole Disney universe? I don't think so. Do I have to bring back Mickey Mouse?
Starting point is 00:47:03 Because he's the worst part of Disney, right? He's unpleasant. He's not unpleasant, but he's just like, Oh! Something's got out of control. That's Mickey Mouse. Comedian Louis C.K. used to just do weird bits before he had kids.
Starting point is 00:47:21 He'd just do weird bits and his impression of Mickey Mouse was just like, There's too much water. That was it. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. No arc.
Starting point is 00:47:31 No arc. There was either too much or not enough of a thing. Yeah. Yeah. No, I'm talking like you do DuckTales and you make it like a weird kind of CGI duck world. Okay. Kind of like you did the Jungle Book.
Starting point is 00:47:43 Yeah. And then from that you in this universe exists your batman with darkwing duck is batman sure it's just a duck yeah uh you know he's got the grappling gun and the outfit and the alter ego and sidekicks or whatever um and then you've got gizmo duck who's kind of like your iron man so you got oh and then so and you've got like the the beagle boys are always busting out of jail to try to get Scrooge's buddy money. You're saying build a DuckTales superhero unit. I'm saying, is that a good idea?
Starting point is 00:48:10 Oh, no. I think people would go and see this. People fucking love DuckTales, man. That's true, they do. And that era of Disney, everybody loved those, you know, all that, you know, know where you got your bloody gummy bears and your bloody what's the one with the bear that flew the flew the plane the junk tailspin all that you know people loved it especially duck tails so i'm just saying there could be money in
Starting point is 00:48:36 it is what i'm saying all right okay yeah and we're just all about the money here that's what we're all about look great.com slash give us the bloody give us some cash yeah weekly planner whatever uh yeah what do you reckon oh i don't know if there's enough to it are you gonna it's a whole world yeah i know but i don't think if you're gonna do it are you gonna do it is there gonna be a ducktales movie because we've they've sort of attempted that they did do it yeah but i i don't think there's enough superhero characters in that universe okay Okay, not even... Just a world.
Starting point is 00:49:06 What if they did... What if they did Darkwing Duck versus Gizmoduck Dawn of Justice? You would definitely see that. Yeah, I'd see that. What are you even talking about? Somebody's probably already made that. That's on YouTube. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:20 I don't think there's enough superhero characters to make it a... To make it superheroes. Yeah. Then just make it as a world and it's got some superheroes in it. Don't you find Huey, Dewey and Louie thoroughly annoying? Oh, they're the worst. That's what I'm talking about. But they're not the main...
Starting point is 00:49:31 Because if you're going to build like an adventure team of these characters, it's got to be Darkwing Duck, it's got to be Gizmo Duck, it's got to be Launchpad. Yeah. And who do you have left? Scrooge. Yeah. Donald Duck. No. And then Huey, Dewey and louie that's all they got what are you gonna put in mrs beakley what
Starting point is 00:49:52 about abigail doesn't he have a niece webergale webergale yeah yeah no um or maybe maybe she's got street smarts maybe you can age her up like they did penny in the Inspector Gadget movie. Yeah, maybe. And then it was his girlfriend. It's weird, right? Was it? Yeah, it was. Ugh. Ugh. Unpleasant. Because you couldn't have him be a single dad, could you?
Starting point is 00:50:13 Because how could people relate to that? People cannot relate to that. That's true. I mean, there certainly wouldn't be any single dads taking their kids to that movie. No, that's right. Completely unrelatable. What a bunch of balls. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:23 I never saw it. So, no, you're stepping on the duck a bit. And if you make it a DuckTales movie, it's just Scrooge McDuck on the hunt for some more gold. Yeah, or trying to get back his gold. And he's so unpleasant. Like, in hindsight, and having seen, like, clips of it, he's, like, the most frugal piece of shit.
Starting point is 00:50:41 He has no regard for his children. No. Or his nephews. He'd, like, he'd like he'd give them i remember there these kids once tricked him that it was monday instead of tuesday so they'd pay him or something so they'd get pocket money to buy a bike he gave them a dollar a week he's the richest man in the world now i'm not saying you think he got to be the richest duck in the world by child labor obviously yeah yeah but. Yeah, but I guess what I'm saying is,
Starting point is 00:51:06 what am I saying? Look, it's good. You don't want to give kids too much money, but come on, man. A dollar? Right. Come on. I mean, $3 for a bike, that's pretty good, though.
Starting point is 00:51:15 That is real good. Yeah. So no, no duck-averse. What about an adventure? What about a game? And also the voice of Scrooge McDuck just died. Yeah, you can get another guy. Wow.
Starting point is 00:51:29 Wow. Just get another guy. You're just going to replace the irreplaceable whatever that guy's name is. Whatever his name is. How dare you, sir? Billy West does Bugs Bunny. That's true. He could probably do Scrooge McDuck as well.
Starting point is 00:51:41 Yeah. People die. Voice actors die, unfortunately. Wow. Yeah. It's a real blow. Except for the guy who plays Batman. He could probably do Scrooge McDuck as well. People die. Voice actors die, unfortunately. Wow. Yeah. It's a real blow. Except for the guy who plays Batman. He'll never die.
Starting point is 00:51:49 Kevin Conroy will never die. Yeah. Yeah. What about like an adventure game? Yeah, sure. Whatever. You know, I don't even... It's not something I really even care about.
Starting point is 00:51:57 What about a Tomb Raider style adventure game? But with Launchpad and McQuack. And you alternate between a bunch of the characters. Yeah, great. What about an Arkham style game with Darkwing Duck in it? Except it's ridiculous. Yes. I'd play that.
Starting point is 00:52:10 Good stuff. But it's got the fighting mechanics from Arkham Asylum in it. Just brutal. Just real brutal. Just kicking legs, kicking knees backwards. Yeah, just snapping elbows. Grabbing people's guns and hitting them in the face with them. Oh, so good.
Starting point is 00:52:23 Great stuff. Got another one? Do I have one yeah what about here's one that i'm amazed has never been rebooted right that's in any way because i think it would work like now it is the prime time for it because it's such a it's such a gimmicky idea yeah that it's it's it'd be such a money spinner do you remember centurions centurions power extreme right tell me about that okay so basically it's the future this guy called doc terror he's a cyborg right and he's like he's like trying to conquer the world but the good guys have the centurions right and it's this team of dudes they wear these like they wear like exo frames they're
Starting point is 00:53:05 like they look like those you know those cgi ping pong ball suits i know this and they've got also they've got like they've got like plugs in them right yeah and they they live in like a satellite hq and they can teleport down to the to earth right and then the bloody the the the team leader she teleports down like suits, suits of, like, suits of powered armor, like, really. That click in. Yeah, that click in. Right.
Starting point is 00:53:29 And then they bloody fight battles with them. And it's, like, it's, and there's, like, initially there was, like, an air guy and a land guy and a sea guy. Of course. And they all have multiple suits. Right. But you can always, they can, like, they can, like, trade suits. Yeah. Like, and they can like they can like trade suits yeah like
Starting point is 00:53:45 and they can like you can get parts from one and the other and like the original toy like it was just they were amazing they were like barbie sized guys yeah and like they you could be bought one of them and they came with like a default like count like a default kit And then you could buy additional like suits. And they were like, like the land guy had like, like the standard issue was like he had a bazooka and like a missile and like a machine gun and all that sort of stuff. But then he had like a suit that would turn into a motorcycle. He had like a tank suit.
Starting point is 00:54:18 He had a helicopter suit, which technically isn't land. It's air. But the army has helicopters, so it's air but the army the army has helicopters so it's fine yeah but like it is crazy to me that nobody has made this into at the very least a video game right right because it's it's the perfect thing for like merchandise merchandise it's like you're ben 10 with your different monsters or whatever it's exactly and it's kind of like i mean we were talking about microtransactions earlier right that you couldn't be like okay you just you play this game and you like i would like to see a good game about this but it's amazing that nobody's gone like okay we'll make the
Starting point is 00:54:53 centurions game we capitalize on nostalgia we make it micro transactions you want the bazooka on the shoulder you can either grind at this game for two hours or you can pay real money and we'll just give it to you get that bazooka yeah get the bazooka or whatever you want you want that helicopter then you've got a you're gonna work this or you pay 20 bucks and we give you the helicopter was it good though look i have no idea i remember loving it i remember loving the toys looking at all these guys they always just look like they're wearing a bike helmet like whatever they're in sure it's always just a bike helmet, like whatever they're in. Sure, yeah. It's always just a bike helmet and then wings or a gun or a tank tread
Starting point is 00:55:27 or whatever. Yeah, amazing, right? Yeah, I guess so. Thank you. That's all I've ever wanted. Their catchphrase, power extreme. Would they yell that?
Starting point is 00:55:38 They would sometimes yell it. Yeah. Oh, man. Yeah, when they power it up. Looking at these pictures, it just looks kind of shit. Wow. It's kind of generic. No, did you never watch it i don't remember it i think it was in 86 so yeah i must have seen it in reruns or when i was five one of those yeah it looks all right fine make it a video game look i'm not saying i'm giving you the go ahead look i'm not saying
Starting point is 00:56:01 it was good then yeah but what i'm saying is it could be really good now. And it could mark... Yeah, I don't disagree. Like, that is... It is so marketable. It's insane. Yeah. Well, yeah. Again, I'd love to see...
Starting point is 00:56:11 I don't know if it... Would it work as an Arkham kind of game? I guess it kind of would. Is that your default thing? That's my default. Just make it an Arkham game. Yeah, because they're great. Just get Rocksteady to do it.
Starting point is 00:56:19 It's fine. They're really good. Yeah, and again, you can just... People love to chip away. Yeah. Just get that bazooka. Get that bloody submarine suit. Get that outer space suit. Did they have mechs?
Starting point is 00:56:34 No, they didn't have mechs, but I mean, the larger suits were kind of. Kind of mech-ish. Kind of mech-ish. Yeah. Good stuff. All right, fine. It's a good one. I don't disagree with you.
Starting point is 00:56:43 But again, I don't think that would be very well adapted to a movie right yeah because there's too many there's too many moving parts yeah yeah literally
Starting point is 00:56:52 yeah this is from Josh Jones 87 on Twitter he says Legend of Korra a lot of people have said a good version of
Starting point is 00:57:00 Avatar The Last Airbender sure the movie which was bad right do you think though they've ruined that too much that they could... Has it been long enough that they could remake it? Do you think they'd bother? I think if they just called it The Legend of Korra. Right.
Starting point is 00:57:14 But you'd have to do the first series first, right? No. Because they'd lead into each other. Oh. See, having not watched any of it, I don't know that. Right. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:26 Yeah. The chorus set like years and years after. Well, couldn't you just have it like a quick flashback? Yeah, I guess you could. Not even to that. Yeah. Just be like, hey, there was airbenders and there was only one airbender, but now we're all back.
Starting point is 00:57:37 Hurrah. Yeah, I guess you could. Sure. Yeah, do it. But my feeling is, are there people, was some of the backlash against Avatar, the movie version, that it was so bad compared to the TV series? Yes.
Starting point is 00:57:49 Do you think that fans of Avatar and fans of Legend of Korra, there'll be a huge backlash and they'll be like, not again? I think it greatly depends on who does it. Yeah. I think some people could handle it really, really well, depending... I'm trying to think, who's adapted the last anime kind of thing? Well, this isn't even... Because this is an American production as well it's just made to it's stylized in that way i believe ghost in the shell is happening at the moment i don't know how
Starting point is 00:58:12 that's gonna it's gonna turn out yeah someone pointed out it's been pointed a few times that the the reason they've they could have cast you could say it's okay to cast scully hansen as a japanese character is because it's a it's not a human body it's a mech body and this one happens to look like scully hansen or whatever okay sure i think what was the point you said something about just also just build up some more asian actors yeah exactly the reason there aren't any there the reason there aren't any a or b list asian actors oh yeah yeah that nobody's going like oh I'm casting a sitcom
Starting point is 00:58:46 yeah I need some wacky friends yeah yeah that Asian guy's good just get him he's pretty good he's good you know what I mean
Starting point is 00:58:52 they're like okay well that's you know it's all like oh well they're all white so we need the wacky best friend to be white or whatever
Starting point is 00:58:59 who cares this is from neglected underscore boy oh yes our real monsters which I really like uh-huh i but directed by tim burton and he's always said ren and simpy directed by quentin tarantino i don't want tim burton to do our real monsters why is that i don't really remember i have a
Starting point is 00:59:15 vague sense of our real monsters with a little squat guy and he held yeah yeah okay it's a like a nickelodeon show it was like i to say late, mid to late 90s. Probably closer to late. But no, it was really good. Like really like great creature and monster designs. It was kind of Monsters, Inc. before Monsters, Inc. But it was way like grosser. Like it was kind of unpleasant. And the monsters were like genuinely like off-putting.
Starting point is 00:59:40 Yeah. But it was really fun. Were the real monsters in the show the only monsters? Like the main characters? They were in like a school of monsters. And so you'd have different skills depending on what kind of monster you were. How would that work in a movie situation? Or a reboot TV series situation?
Starting point is 00:59:56 Would you do like an animation you're talking? Well I'm saying like would you have them go... So did they live... Did they have adventures within their own world or did they go to Earth? Yeah, it was mostly in their own world, but they did. No, no, a bit of both. A bit of both, I should say. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:12 Okay. So you could do it both ways. Would you have the R real monsters go to the real world? No, but they're in the real world. They live in the sewers and shit. Oh, okay. Yeah, right, right. Okay.
Starting point is 01:00:21 You should watch it, Mason. Do you think they'd become sort of reality TV stars or something? It's not like, no, because they didn't get like discovered. Uh-huh. It's right. Okay. You should watch it, Mason. Do you think they'd become sort of reality TV stars or something? It's not like... No, because they didn't get discovered. Uh-huh. It's a secret underground... No, but I mean, in the movie, would that happen? It almost certainly would, right?
Starting point is 01:00:32 Definitely. Yeah. One of them would have a boombox and do a rap, which is my default terrible thing to happen in a movie like this if it went bad. Ren and Stimpy, though? Ah, can you recapture that magic? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:45 Because the original guy, he got kicked off his own project. John Krzyzewski? Something? And he ended up making like Powdered Toast Man. Yeah. Not Powdered Toast Man. There's another show he made. It wasn't that.
Starting point is 01:00:55 I can't remember what it was called. Anyway, like people loved that show, but they tried to bring back Beavis and Butthead and it didn't, a few years ago, it didn't really. Well, they also tried to bring back Ren and Stimpy. Did they? Yeah. It was like a brief. And it was kind of more R-rated.
Starting point is 01:01:09 Ooh. When was this? A couple of years ago. I have no idea. Or 10 years ago. Who's to say? I don't know. Between a couple and 10 years ago.
Starting point is 01:01:18 Good stuff. Got another one. Ooh. I'll take that as a no. What do people... I'll take that as a no What do people They were always trying to get Captain Planet
Starting point is 01:01:28 Rebooted right I got here from People like Now it's the bloody It's the greatest time ever Now's the time Now's the time Because the environment
Starting point is 01:01:38 Global warming Catherine Bush says Not Captain Planet Oh yeah On Twitter I hate Captain Planet. I hate his stupid message. I hate that show.
Starting point is 01:01:47 And I don't mean it's a stupid message not to save the environment and whatever, but it's so forced and poorly handled. Yeah. And I'd hate any show that is clearly trying to teach you something. Right. You hate edutainment. Yeah. And there's a way you can do it subtly without just having a guy turn to the camera at the end
Starting point is 01:02:06 and go, hey, put your cans in the bin. Well, on that show, the bad guys all just had, I think we brought this up before, but they all just had factories that just made pollution. Just pouring goop into the ocean. They didn't do anything. They just made toxic waste and just shot it in the ocean. It would have been at least, what if the Captain Planet
Starting point is 01:02:25 or the Planetiers, they busted on this guy and they're like, what are you doing? You're making all this pollution. He's like, we build prosthetic limbs for children who are landmine victims. That's what we do here. Do you think I just pour toxic sludge in the ocean for no reason? What do you think I'm?
Starting point is 01:02:40 I'm not an idiot. Get out of here. I have this rat face. I mean, sure, my name's Luton Plunder. My name's Hoggis Grindley. What chance do you have in life if your parents named you Luton Plunder? Yeah, you're in some shit. You know what?
Starting point is 01:02:52 If you're Mr. and Mrs. Plunder, you're having a kid, name him George or something. I don't know. George Plunder. George Plunder. Yeah. That'd be quite nice. It's like calling a kid Bulletproof Vest or whatever. Right.
Starting point is 01:03:02 His name or vest. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Just, yeah, man. You know what I would like to see, though, maybe? Yeah. Is a continuation of the story and maybe Captain Planet is done and all the Planeteers have, like, gone their separate ways.
Starting point is 01:03:17 Like that Power Rangers fan film. Yeah, exactly. Okay, sure, yeah. I'd say something like that. Yeah. And you go, you know, why is there climate change? Why is everything falling to pieces? Why is the Great Barrier Reef bleached or whatever?
Starting point is 01:03:30 Why is this all happening? Because you're like, well, the Planeteers broke up and Captain Planet, you know, he doesn't exist anymore kind of thing. And it's a case of, you know, there's some massive crisis and you get all the team back together. I think that would be a gritty reboot. I would watch that. Gritty reboot it is. There's also those Don Cheadle Funny or all the team back together i think that'd be okay pretty reboot i would watch that greedy reboot it is there's also those don cheetle funny or die videos oh yeah that too yeah good stuff but i would say i would watch that yeah
Starting point is 01:03:52 but again but because remember when you know when they rebooted robocop and people are kind of against that but i think it's fine it's fine remember remember the bad guy michael keaton is the bad guy he was like i'm just doing this to make the money. But at the same time, he's like, I want these robot cops on the streets of America because I genuinely think it will save lives. If we're doing Captain Planet, I want a villain who has some kind of... Purpose, point. Yeah, purpose or point.
Starting point is 01:04:21 The reason he's doing this is because he, I don't know, he's making pollution because he believes, I don't know. It could definitely work. Give him some human motivation instead of just like, I'm polluting everything. I do think it's a sound concept, or it can be. I just don't think that that cartoon was any good. Right, okay. Especially because they bore us with a whole lot of,
Starting point is 01:04:42 oh, what are we going to do this week? Bloody pig-faced guys, you know, cutting heads off fish and throwing them into a landfill or something. And then they'll go through and they can't do it. So they just call Captain Planet. Like, just call him, man. Just call him. Don't make me hang out with Wheeler. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:04:59 There was no reason for him to. He was completely indestructible unless he encountered any pollution at all. And that was the other thing I hated about him. he'd be like oh no i've got i'm not i've got a chip packet on me i can't do anything yeah you're a dickhead mate yeah it didn't yeah and your jokes are shit as well oh you're all washed up come on you probably said that like eight times yeah also in this gritty reboot um if the kid with the power of heart can also use it to pull people's hearts oh please like just not like talk to monkeys like get monkeys to pull people's hearts i know i reckon how about this like maybe is it marty who had the heart like everybody's
Starting point is 01:05:37 like everybody's gone their separate ways and he's just gone into the jungle and he's become a lunatic and and like like some you know some parts some bandits or whatever like here's the opening scene like when you first see this character like all these bandits jump him and they're like we know you you're you're one of the we used to be a planeteer or whatever you had the power of heart yeah and he just pulls there like he powers up the ring and all their hearts just tear out of their chest i think that'd be very good also this movie's not for children. Oh, obviously not. Giga Beetle says 90s X-Men,
Starting point is 01:06:11 like in a separate universe from the regular X-Men universe. It has a theme song. That's the difference. Yeah. What do you think? Aren't we kind of getting that for the next one? We're getting to the next, yeah. They've incredibly slowly developed a team for the 90s X-Men. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:23 Because we've got 90s X-Men looking Cyclops. Yep. We've got Jean Grey. We'll probably get Psylocke back. Is this what we've been building towards this whole time? Yeah, the X-Men cartoon. Yeah. Maybe we have.
Starting point is 01:06:33 I hope so. Yeah. We'll just need Morph in the next movie and we'll sort it. Morph. Christopher Johnson says, bloody gargoyles with Unkeith David on vocal duties once again. Gargoyles was fantastic. I think that is definitely a series. Disney owns gargoyles with Keith David on vocal duties once again. Gargoyles was fantastic. I think that is definitely a series.
Starting point is 01:06:48 Disney owns gargoyles as well. Yeah, that's right. So they could definitely do it. Yeah, a little bit of motion capture, but keep the majority of the face because they've all got kind of human-esque faces. Anti-circus for everyone. Anti-circus for everybody.
Starting point is 01:07:02 One of them could be The Rock also, I'm sure. Yeah, okay. But Gargoyle was ethnically ambiguous. Well, he's ethnically ambiguous, but also he is the most cartoonish man in the world. Yeah, because he's enormous. Yeah. But he's not like big with a tiny head. His head's big also.
Starting point is 01:07:18 Yeah. He's just a big bloke. Have you seen that Halloween photo of him as Popeye? Yes. Great. So it was the Gargoyles got turned to stone and they could only turn out of stone. We talked about this recently, didn't we?
Starting point is 01:07:30 Where the castle went above a certain height. That's right, yeah. And so they come back in the modern day and everything's changed. Yeah, they couldn't return from stone, I think, until buildings went above the clouds. No, the castle had to be raised above the clouds or something like that. And then a billionaire buys the castle and puts it on top of his skyscraper. Yeah, exactly. So they come back to life.
Starting point is 01:07:54 Yeah, pretty sweet. Yeah, I definitely want to see that. Also, they could fight mecha gargoyles. Yeah, that was a bloody good thing, wasn't it? Got to something else? I've got a whole list here, Mason. Oh, do you have a list? Do you remember Mask?
Starting point is 01:08:07 Yeah, I remember Mask. Did you not like Mask? What is wrong with you? I didn't really watch it. Did you like Centurions? Not the point. Did you have the toys? No.
Starting point is 01:08:15 Man, they were so good. Hang on, let me look up Mask again, what the toys looked like. They had bloody, they had transformable vehicles. It was a motorcycle, but then it turned into a helicopter. Mask was great. It was a motorcycle, but then it turned into a helicopter. Oh, yeah, okay, Mask was great. It was a car, but then it turned into a flying car. Yeah, but again, these... Mobile Armoured Strike Command.
Starting point is 01:08:30 Command with a K. This cartoon, these outfits are shithouse, mate. The lead guy has, like, his head just looks like the front of a truck. Yeah. What's his deal? Well, they all had masks also. It was a weird series insofar as they all had a transformable vehicle
Starting point is 01:08:48 and they also had a mask. They had two novelty powers. Too many. You'd think your bloody mask could shoot lasers or anti-gravity beams or just pieces of shrapnel. It's great. So, mask. Mask. Do you think it would
Starting point is 01:09:04 work though? When I was a kid, when you were... Maybe you didn't read when you were a kid. No. You were a kid. I still don't read. Okay, well, remember when you could get... In our school, you could get, like... There was a company called Scholastic.
Starting point is 01:09:15 Yeah. And you could order books. Oh, yeah, I know that. And send your books. It's in the bloody book club or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They had mask books. Mask books.
Starting point is 01:09:21 Mask books. That was great. Did they come with a cardboard cut out of a mask? You got no mask. Yeah. Could you cut two Did they come with a cardboard cut out of a mask? You got no mask. Yeah. Could you cut two holes out of the book and wear it as a mask? Potentially, but you could do that with any book. But I guess unless you were inspired by mask,
Starting point is 01:09:34 you probably wouldn't have done that. If I was going to do it, that's how I would do it. Or the movie Mask, about the deformed boy. Oh, yeah. Is he okay, that kid? He's probably fine. Eric Stoltz. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:45 Ryan says Dragon Ball Z. Again, we've had this. It was total garbage. Oh, there was a movie. Yeah, that's right. But as you know, I'm the biggest Dragon Ball Z fan in the world. Ask me any question. You've said that so many times that I'm not sure if it's true or not true.
Starting point is 01:10:00 Is it very true? I like it, but I don't... I know a bit about it. All right, here's my question. Trunks, yay or nay? I like it, but I don't... I know a bit about it. All right, here's my question. Sure. Trunks, yay or nay? I like him. Vegeta's son.
Starting point is 01:10:11 Comes back from the future. He's got super saiyan abilities. Great. His hair varies from bowl cut to long, depending on what season or when he appears. Yeah, nice. He's got a sword. Yeah, he's pretty good, actually. Wow, all right.
Starting point is 01:10:23 Yeah. Do you think that works in live action you're gonna put some money into it if it's got a if it's but see that like the hair is ridiculous yeah that is the sticking point certain cartoons have a certain visual style yep and if you mess with it why have you even bothered making the live action but if you do it for real, it looks super dumb. Yeah. And Dragon Ball Z is that.
Starting point is 01:10:48 There's other examples that I cannot think of. You could say that about like Captain America or Iron Man or Thor like a few years ago. A few years ago, I would say,
Starting point is 01:10:56 before that happened. Yeah, okay. Like when have we seen a good Captain America costume? Yeah, true, but that's... I know, but the hair is different.
Starting point is 01:11:03 I know, you're right. Hair is an important aspect of movies that people don't think about but they should think about it we mentioned we talk about it we mention it a lot but if it's just if they've got regular hair yeah does that work at all because you need to give them kind of big hair yeah yeah and then does that look dumb man i think if you do if they do another live action Dragon Ball, the hair person is the person they hire first. Yeah, absolutely. The hair designer.
Starting point is 01:11:28 You go from the hair down. Right. That's how that works. Hair and like face makeup just to put it all together? Right, yeah. Because you can't just have... Because they've got exaggerated bodies as well. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:39 And so the hair kind of plays into that. So if you've just got exaggerated hair on a regular sized person, it doesn't look right. Doesn't work, right't work also you need like crazy ripped people for this yeah so you need the rock obviously the rock and you need to give him giant hair you need to give him giant springy out lion hair yeah he'd probably be a good goku i guess but then also there would be the quandary he's only got so much time in his life. I know. But like, do you got, do you cast all Asian? Like it, how would,
Starting point is 01:12:07 how would they do it? All Asian or ethnically ambiguous. Sure. Gotcha. Uh, Dusty says Freakazoid. It was the strangest thing ever. He was kind of like Deadpool.
Starting point is 01:12:16 Sure. Right. It was kind of meta. And he was, didn't he absorb the internet once? And he could, or he was something. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:23 But anybody could have absorbed the internet in the 90s there was hardly any internet yeah but he did it properly because he was like all memes and nonsense and before there was
Starting point is 01:12:30 all that kind of stuff oh sure right yeah yeah sure can you bring him back though or is the internet
Starting point is 01:12:37 is he going to seem boring yeah compared to the internet you know what I mean but then like Deadpool worked yeah but he's also
Starting point is 01:12:44 got swords that's a really good point Rick is always not killing anybody no you're right Chance Mills to the internet. But then like Deadpool worked. Yeah, but he's also got swords. That's a really good point. Freak is always not killing anybody. No, you're right. Chance Mills says Adventure Time. I like Adventure Time. Again, does that work live? It's a very crazy,
Starting point is 01:12:56 wacky, wacky, wacky world. Yeah, again, Pete, there's... I think they should do an Adventure Time movie. What I think we've learned today... Yeah. That's it? Yeah, that's it. Now, what I think we've learned today is that. That's it? Yeah, that's it.
Starting point is 01:13:05 Now, what I think we've learned today is that, I mean, we knew it already, but I mean, just some of these things belong where they belong. Yes, they do. They're cartoons for a reason. If they were going to be live action TV, they would have been live action TV. And like our son, video games should just be video games. That being said, looking forward to that fucking Tetris movie. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 01:13:25 Do we know anything more about that? No. Story that no storyline no and no suggestions from this podcast oh that's right yeah you're right okay sorry i forgot about that i mean they won't we've never influenced anything but i don't want this to be the first thing yeah uh meso's favorite uh one one punch man i haven't seen it but i know you love it i do love it i think you had seen it i hadn't seen it yet i haven't seen it, but I know you love it. I do love it. I thought you had seen it. I hadn't seen it yet. I haven't seen it yet. I hadn't and I still haven't. It's great. I know it's great. He fights a crab man or whatever.
Starting point is 01:13:50 I would love to see that in live action. Okay. Who do you cast? The Rock. No, because it can't be The Rock because it has to be- It has to be regular sized initially at least, doesn't it? Yeah, he's the- Yeah, he's-
Starting point is 01:14:00 Well, no, he's always that, but it's- He's trained to the point where he's invincible and unstoppable, but he just looks like a very plain man. Yeah. Like plain and dumb looking. John Malkovich. No, he's got too much to him. That's the thing.
Starting point is 01:14:17 It's hard to find a plain looking person in Hollywood, right? Timothy Olford. Shave his head again. No, he's handsome. No, he can Timothy Olford. Shave his head again. No, he's handsome. No, he can't be handsome. He has to be nothing. I'm going to type in the plainest man. And a lot of...
Starting point is 01:14:30 Tobey Maguire. Bald. Oh, yes. Tobey Maguire is one part. Yeah, that would be good. Shave his head. Yeah. And he just...
Starting point is 01:14:39 He's got that... Give him that... Tell him to re-channel that Spider-Man one, kind of like that Daleks like that expression of like, what, that would totally work, okay. Yeah. I'm on board with this now. I know people will hate that
Starting point is 01:14:53 because a lot of people do not like Tobey Maguire. What's his deal personally? Is he no good personally as a human being? I've heard stories that he's no good, but I've also heard stories that he is good. Who's a Tobey Maguire-alike then? We'll find somebody. Jake Gyllenhaal.
Starting point is 01:15:05 But he's like the handsome version. He's very handsome, right? He's very handsome, yeah. And he's always in good shape too. He's in great shape. I typed it up. What about Patrick Dempsey? What?
Starting point is 01:15:15 He's bland, but he's not... He's not... He's handsome. He's handsome though, yeah. God. This is tough. Right? What about that dude with red hair?
Starting point is 01:15:24 The little dude with red hair, Seth Green? Seth Green? Yeah. No. We're going to have to find an unknown. Or Tilda Swinton. Or Tilda Swinton. Tilda Swinton!
Starting point is 01:15:33 What about Andy Serkis mo-capping a really plain man? That would work too. Actually, you know what? Hashtag Weekly Planet Pod, or hit us up on Twitter, at Wikipedia, round out Mr. Sunday Movies. Who would you cast as One Punch Man? As One Punch Man, I would really like to know. There's got to be somebody out there.
Starting point is 01:15:47 Because your A-list actors are too handsome. Yes. Your B-list characters, oh no, your character actors, they've always got some sort of... What about James Franco? They've got a lumpy head. James Franco.
Starting point is 01:16:00 Do you think he wouldn't do it properly though? He's weird though. James Franco, he's handsome. Yeah, but he's not... If you shaved his head, he's... No, no, handsome. He's a handsome guy. What about Corey Feldman? No.
Starting point is 01:16:12 Also missing a lot of teeth, probably. No, I don't think you're going to find somebody there. You're right. And, like, in, like, character actors, they have, like, they've always got, like, a specific look. Right, right. You know, so they're always famous as that guy. We want somebody who you'd never recognise as a that guy.
Starting point is 01:16:27 Yeah. Very difficult. Please hit us up on Twitter. Tilda Swinton. Tilda Swinton. Nicholas Germain, He-Man and Masters of the Universe, which we're getting at some point. Right, okay.
Starting point is 01:16:39 We've talked about this, haven't we? Yeah. You'd have to cast Chris Hemsworth, but obviously he's busy. Yeah, right. So what do you do? Well, you wait until the Marvel Universe requires there not be a Thunder God in their movies because it will be too easy for them to defeat the bad guy.
Starting point is 01:16:55 Yeah, yeah. And then once he's been written out, you get him for He-Man. Do you do it like they're doing the new Conan? Yes. Where it's set like 30 years after and you get back Dolph? Because the new Conanan yes where it's set like 30 years after and you get back dolph because the new conan's got old arnold he's like this he's at the end of his kind of days as the king when is this coming out a couple years really yeah yeah first i've heard of this have you mentioned it
Starting point is 01:17:16 multiple times in the podcast and i've emailed you directly before the show because i knew it come up don't read the emails don't write them uh them. Yeah, so Conan you'd want to see, obviously. Yeah, okay. Man, I really like that last. We should re-watch that last Hangman movie. Masters of the Universe? Yeah. You really like it?
Starting point is 01:17:35 I think so. No, I don't think it's actually good. No, it's got to be good. No. So Jack Kirby-ish. No. So New Gods. They go to the real world and I like that.
Starting point is 01:17:45 That's when it steps. That's when it gets too much. Okay, here's my thing. Here's my question, though. If we're going to do another one, would you rather it be in the cartoon universe or in the live-action universe? Cartoon universe because it's got the dumbest stuff.
Starting point is 01:18:00 You wouldn't want to see a continuation of that last live-action movie. Courtney Cox and... Not even those characters, but I mean, like, that weird... Because, you know, we said on the show before, like, that universe was like Thor, the Dark World, pre-Thor, the Dark World. Right, right. It was this weird... It was mystical, but it was high-tech, and it was in a pocket dimension.
Starting point is 01:18:20 Why does it have to be a weird continuation of that? Well, I'm not saying it does have to. You're saying you don't want that. But you want to see a saying you don't want but you want to see a wacky version i don't want to see a wacky version i want to see a thor the dark world version yeah i want to see okay i would like a he-man that is more in that vein where it's more this surreal high-tech universe yep okay no and it's kind of post-apocalyptic like where did they get the technology where did any of it come from is it the desert is it magic what's going on yeah i like that. And it's kind of post-apocalyptic. Like, where did they get the technology? Where did any of it come from? Is it the desert? Is it magic?
Starting point is 01:18:46 What's going on? Yeah. I like that a lot. There's deserts, but there's also swamps next to deserts. There's a navy. There's a navy. There's a navy. But at the same time, was there a battle cat?
Starting point is 01:18:57 There wasn't a battle cat in that universe. No, there wasn't. There wasn't. Because they'd have to get a tiger. Right, exactly. But, I mean, we've reached the point where we could have that apocalyptic universe that kind of new gods universe yeah yeah but we could add in the cgi battle cat we can maybe that's why people hated at the time because it didn't have any of the yeah like it was it was kind of a vague yeah approximation and you add in orco you add in
Starting point is 01:19:18 battle cat into this universe i think that'd be great yeah that's the direction i want to go in also a lot of those sets in that and ideas from that came over like bled over from the spider-man movie they were going to make i can't remember why or how but it's like the same terrible company great they're called calico but it's not calico something like that and carol co oh we did an episode i don't know okay great uh scott from nerd sync hi scott he's a great bloke uh he recommended danny phantom which i haven't seen. So looking at this, it looks like your fairy odd parents kind of style, which is also pretty great.
Starting point is 01:19:51 He blows up his parents' laboratory and becomes a ghost-hunting superhero called Danny Phantom, and he's half ghost and he's got all sorts of paranormal powers and stuff. How's he half ghost? Is he half dead? Bottom half. Oh. So he's got a ghost.
Starting point is 01:20:03 Yeah. Ghost. Ghost junk. What do you think? Bottom half. Oh. So he's got a ghost. Yeah. Ghost. Ghost junk. Yeah. What do you think? A half ghost boy. Well, since I've never heard of any of this before. Also, is he always racked with undead pain because he's dead?
Starting point is 01:20:15 It looks more fun. Is there a scene where he half dies? I don't. What's going on there? I haven't seen it, man. Why don't you ask Scott on Twitter? I will. He's a good bloke.
Starting point is 01:20:23 He'd be pretty okay with it. He fucking hates you, though. No, that makes sense. Like, I'm not. People do. It's fine. Ben Vance. Yes.
Starting point is 01:20:33 Says Samurai Jack. Okay, yeah. You a fan? Uh, kind. Yeah, look, from time to time. I won't turn off an episode if it's on. To me, because there was a Frank Miller comic book series called Ronin
Starting point is 01:20:46 yes which has the same theme essentially it's a samurai sent to the future yeah and I'm always like is this a
Starting point is 01:20:52 is this a rip off what's going on yeah and I kind of had left a left a bad taste in my mouth for some reason even though I'm like
Starting point is 01:20:58 who cares but I should read Ronin it's real good yeah it's before Frank Miller went crazy or before he revealed he was crazy.
Starting point is 01:21:06 Probably that one. It's probably that one, right? Yeah. It's very odd. And if you read it, you'll be like, oh, this has a lot of parallels to Samurai Jack. Cool. Okay. Great.
Starting point is 01:21:16 Yeah, we could do it. Who do we cast as a samurai? Tom Cruise. Oh. Because he can be the last samurai in Samurai Jack. That's true. He could do both. And that would actually be good.
Starting point is 01:21:26 What about One Punch Man Man? Asian actors in cinema. Not One Punch Man Man. If Man. Oh, yeah, fine. What about Battle of the Planets? What's that? G-Force.
Starting point is 01:21:34 Remember G-Force? They all had bird costumes. Battle of the Planet or G-Force? Battle of the Planets. Look up Battle of the Planets. Was it just planets crashing into each other? No. It's like a team of young people, and they're like the super CIA kind of thing.
Starting point is 01:21:51 God, the A's were so shit. All these things just look the same. But they've got a cool ship. It's called the Phoenix. It's awesome. They've got cool costumes. That ship's not that awesome. How dare you?
Starting point is 01:22:07 How do you not remember any of these? I remember some of them. You're not allowed to watch TV as a kid. I think you're slightly older than me, so I think that's why. I agree. I think I've just missed some key moments here. I don't remember this one at all. Wow.
Starting point is 01:22:20 It was real good. I bet it's not. That was real good. Do you remember City of Gold? Yes, Mysterious Cities of Gold. That was a good one. Yeah. Great theme song too.
Starting point is 01:22:27 So what do we get for that? Do you want a movie? Do you want a TV series? No, I mean, we'll skip that entirely because you don't care about it. No, I care about it. Tell me. They just bird people. No, they were super agents, superhero super agents.
Starting point is 01:22:41 What are their powers? They just were kind of tough and they would glide. They got capes, but what are they? Can they fly? Yeah, because they would glide and stuff and they would throw you Batarang-style things. Let's forget I said anything. Looks like bloody Hanna-Barbera and that I hate.
Starting point is 01:22:54 Yeah, it was a little bit Hanna-Barbera. It's probably not, but yeah. All right. What were we talking about? City of Gold's fine, whatever. I think we should probably wrap this up. Let's wrap it up. I got one more here, though.
Starting point is 01:23:03 Yes. From Henry Johnston. Rick and Morty. Enough said. I think Rick and Morty this up. Let's wrap it up. I got one more here though. Yes. From Henry Johnston. Rick and Morty. Enough said. I think Rick and Morty is one of those ones that- Leave it as it is. Leave it as it is. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:11 I love the series. We all do. Yeah. Doesn't need a movie. That being said, if they were to do a cartoon movie, sure. Great. Oh, he's talking about live action movie. Who do you get as live action?
Starting point is 01:23:22 Do you get- Christopher Lloyd. Lloyd. Do you get Christopher Lee? Yeah. You bring Christopher Lee back. You bring Christopher Lee back. And you make him- I don't know. Who do you get? Does he have to look like Rick? I think you could get a younger guy and just age... Christopher Walken? Oh, yeah, okay, maybe. But you'd have to be like Christopher Walken. You can't be Christopher Walken.
Starting point is 01:23:56 You have to do the Rick thing. No, I would say just don't try to be funny. Don't walk in this scene. Play it straight. Right, yeah, yeah. And he would just do his own thing. Yeah, yeah. I would say just don't try to be funny. Don't play it straight. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And he would just do his own thing.
Starting point is 01:24:07 Yeah. Yeah. Oh, you get, you get one of the, who are the two guys? They're the same guy. Essentially.
Starting point is 01:24:15 I'm crazy. The guy plays Iceman. No, they're crazy. They're both crazy. And they are in Hollywood. They're crazy old dudes. Mickey Rourke.
Starting point is 01:24:21 No, but you're close. Yes. And the other one, Gary Busey or, um, I know. Yeah. Right Busey? Yes, and the other one. Gary Busey or... I know who you... Yeah, right now, right? Everybody knows who I mean. Who is it?
Starting point is 01:24:29 Gary Busey or bloody... I'm going to look up... Gary Busey or... Gary Busey or... Or... Nick Nolte. Nick Nolte. Either of those two.
Starting point is 01:24:39 Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. I don't think you could get Gary Busey because Gary Busey is legit crazy. Is he? Okay. Yeah. So I don't think, you need someone who can do crazy, but you can wrangle. I don't know though.
Starting point is 01:24:53 Maybe just get the, maybe, because you could fix so much of it with CGI, right? Yeah. So you just. But you can't fix a performance. Yeah, you can. You just have him, you give him the basic outline of this. Because, I mean, some of Rick and Morty is improv. Yes.
Starting point is 01:25:08 I mean, not the plots necessarily. No, no. But like there are scenes in it. Yeah. I reckon you just, you nail him down. See, that's the problem though, because the writers that have such a unique style and then you give that to an actor who's not them to improv. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:22 I don't think you're going to get the same magic. But I think you get a different magic though. Different magic. You get, you get Gary Busey. Is it holograms? Is it tech? Is it real magic?
Starting point is 01:25:34 Mandrake. Rapping it. But, but framing. I think you could just get, you could get Gary Busey in there and you're like, here's the, here's the script.
Starting point is 01:25:43 You need to say these things. Yeah. But in the meantime, just do whatever you want. And you just take some of that and you're like, here's the script. You need to say these things. Yeah. But in the meantime, just do whatever you want. Right. And you just take some of that and you put some of it in the script. You put some of it in the plot. You just have some weird vignettes. Right, right.
Starting point is 01:25:54 You can add a Mercator director. It'll be fine. Yeah, okay. It'll be great. No, I think you should still get like Justin Roland and Dan Harmon. Okay, cool. I can get them to do it still. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:02 Yeah. All right. And as the kid kid you just get like a genuine child actor who's terrified to be there yes of Gary Busey
Starting point is 01:26:08 yeah I don't know about Gary Busey I just don't know if he could actually do it alright I would okay if you're on
Starting point is 01:26:16 Twitter let me know who would you like to play One Punch Man who would you like to play Rick yes do you want a Christopher Walken
Starting point is 01:26:22 do you want a Gary Busey do you want a Nick Nolte what do you want an actor or do you want a yeah do you want a Christopher Walken? Do you want a Gary Busey? Do you want a Nick Nolte? What do you want, an actor? Or do you want a, yeah, do you want a Christopher Lee? Who do you want? Sure.
Starting point is 01:26:29 Yeah, good stuff. All right, that'll do it. Yep. You know what it's time for? What's it time for? What we're reading. What we're gonna read. I'm doing the thing.
Starting point is 01:26:44 What are we reading today? Have you read anything, Mason? Recently. You've watched a lot of shit 80s TV. How dare you? What have you read? I haven't really read anything this week. I did start watching Broad City.
Starting point is 01:26:56 A lot of people have recommended to me Broad City. I bet it's like a better version of Girls. I've never seen Girls, so... What happens in Girls girls that's just unpleasant what is the plot of girls just just the worst people you could possibly imagine just being dicks is it is is girls but it's a continuous yes it's a continuous series it's like a soap kind of yeah you could watch any episode of broad city uh individually right and it would be fine like there is sort of i mean there's, there's kind of character arcs.
Starting point is 01:27:27 You know, one character is seeing this other character and blah, blah, blah. But oftentimes it's kind of background stuff. Right, right. It's just the Ilana and Abby and they're on a series of weird adventures. Cool. In New York City. It's pretty great. Like the Mighty Boosh, but realistic.
Starting point is 01:27:43 Yeah, sure. Good stuff. Right? Yeah. I got Mirror's Edge this week. Mirror but realistic. Yeah, sure. Good stuff. Right? Yeah. I got Mirror's Edge this week. Mirror's Edge. Mirror's Edge.
Starting point is 01:27:50 I got the New Zealand version. Oh, yeah. It's cheaper. But it's pretty good. It's a whole lot of running. Yeah. It's an open world in Mirror's Edge. Oh. I really enjoyed the first game.
Starting point is 01:28:00 But it was very linear, right? It was very linear, which I thought would work to this to this one's detriment yeah because you're just always running through the same open world and there is a bit of that it's because you're on top of the buildings it's very kind of bland into like you don't run into anybody really yeah it's like this you run past the same people and they're just still standing there right but like the running and the mechanics of that are so smooth like the last one you could maybe run for 20 30 seconds and then you'd hit a wall and you'd stop but this one
Starting point is 01:28:29 it's really it's got a great flow okay the story's a bit kind of like is that because you're just so good at parkour it might be that it might actually be that that obviously all that hard work has paid off but uh you're a real matt hoss no i'm trying to think of what... If you know it. You know, there's a guy called Matt Hoss who's suing a guy called Ethan who does H3H3 YouTube channel because he made fun of his pickup video slash parkour YouTube channel. So he's suing him. Ridiculous. What do you call somebody who does parkour?
Starting point is 01:29:00 A parkourist. No, it's like a chaser or something. I don't know. I thought it was just I do parkour. I'm going to look it up real quick. This is good. No, no, it's a parkourist no it's like a like a chaser or something i don't know i thought it was just i do parkour i'm gonna look it up real quick this is good no no it's good yeah yeah it makes great podcasting parkour parkour parkour yo you're a tracer you're a tracer you do have a tracer actually in the game so you got this little thing and you can there's like a red line you can kind of follow like my like mike tracer who was in. Like Mike Tracier, who was in Night Rider. No, he was in Night Rider.
Starting point is 01:29:27 The main character's called Mike Tracier. I didn't know that. Can you do that move where you kick a shotgun out of a guy's hand and you grab the shotgun and you shoot him with it? That's the thing. The bad guys, some of them have guns, but you don't have a gun. You never have a gun. You can't grab a gun.
Starting point is 01:29:40 I thought that would suck, but it's actually kind of cool because if they pull a gun on you, you can like, you swat them in the side of the head with your foot. And they'll like stumble off a gun. I thought that would suck, but it's actually kind of cool because if they pull a gun on you, you can like, you swat them in the side of the head with your foot and they'll like stumble off a ledge. Is it established in the game that your character doesn't use guns? Is it the same character from the first one? No, it's a quasi kind of reboot. It's also, there was a comic book series which leads up to this, but it's a reintroduction
Starting point is 01:30:01 of the character of Faith and what happened to her family. There are a lot of elements that are the same. The scene is very similar, but it's a's a reintroduction of the character of faith and what happened to her family there are a lot of elements that are the same the scene is very similar but it's it's a different story cool also i should watch the rest of voltron yes that would be a good plan yeah and also uh i keep forgetting i gotta watch preacher are you up to that on preacher i am yeah as is good having just read the comic i'm like into the third volume. I'm like, man, they should do all of this. So how many episodes of Preacher are you up to? Two. And have they done anything?
Starting point is 01:30:30 It'll be three by the time this goes down. Have they done anything that's been in the comic books yet? A little bit. Have we seen the thing from heaven? Have we seen any heaven? Is it all vague? What's going on in heaven? It's very vague.
Starting point is 01:30:41 I couldn't possibly tell you. Because I don't even know what version of that they're doing. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, true. So it's kind of i couldn't possibly tell you because i don't even know what version of that they're doing do you know what i mean yeah so it's kind of i don't i yeah i recognize elements of it now but i don't know exactly what they're doing okay all right okay i just think they should do that bloody comic though i'm just sorry specter mirrors edge it's also being adapted into a tv show so there you go i think there's something that could be done really good with that especially aesthetic wise but the universe is all kind of like... Did you say Tevisha?
Starting point is 01:31:07 Yeah. But the universe is like you'll be running and it's just someone in your ear is just like, you know, Faith, this environment that we're in and the corporation has taken over and we've got to get... I don't know. Shut your goddamn mouth. Sometimes they're very heavy-handed, like any kind of anti-corporate. Like you've got Mr. Robot which is great
Starting point is 01:31:25 but you've also got that one where the lady time travels back and then she's a future cop and then she travels back to the modern day she loves
Starting point is 01:31:35 it doesn't matter Life on Mars? No! Not Life on Mars something something time travel something time travel woman cop
Starting point is 01:31:43 yeah but I mean yeah fair enough I'm saying Mirror's Edge could be good but it's based on a video game and also it's based on a video game Something, something, time travel something. Time travel woman cop. Yeah, but I mean, yeah. Fair enough. I'm saying Mirror's Edge could be good, but it's based on a video game. And also, it's based on a video game, and also it's parkour, which is never coming back. Like people out there who love it, and it's great, but that's never going to reenter the public consciousness
Starting point is 01:31:57 in a positive way, I think. That being said, I like parkour. I love doing it. Look, we all like parkour. I mean, I think it's an amazing skill. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? It's not like planking where it's like, what even is this?
Starting point is 01:32:10 No, it's exactly like planking. Any tracers listening, your chosen sport is exactly like planking. What do you reckon about that? What do you reckon, Mason, about doing some letters? Oh, letters. It's loading. I blame your Wi-Fi. Nothing's, nothing.
Starting point is 01:32:28 The classic one was letters, oh letters. We love you. There's nothing downloading. This is on you. You're only a day away. I know they're here right now. We're going to do letters. So I play that off my phone.
Starting point is 01:32:42 Yes. A lot of people have asked me on Twitter, hey, I can probably get a copy of that and send it to you. Yeah, that's not the point. It's the challenge. It's the challenge. To see if I can do it on time. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:32:54 Every time. Every time. Never failed. This is from Peter John on Twitter. Three N's. An uncle called Peter John. How many N's? One.
Starting point is 01:33:03 He's also dead. He's a dead man. He died. Do you think it was the lack of N's? It. He's also dead. He's a dead man. He died. Do you think it was the lack of N's? It may have been. It might have been the terrible disease. This guy's got three N's and he's alive and well. I mean, at the time of sending the tweet.
Starting point is 01:33:13 Sure. Quick question. What are your thoughts on Trainspotting2? Hashtag Weekly Planet Pod. Because if you want to send us a bloody tweet, Mason, you've got to hashtag Weekly Planet Pod. You've got to bring that hashtag. You've got to get within the branding of what we're doing.
Starting point is 01:33:27 Yeah. Branding. You got a social media and this shit. That's right. Synergy. You like transporting? Yeah. Me too.
Starting point is 01:33:32 It's great. I love it. What is there a plan? They're currently filming it. Who's back? Everybody. Really? Director, cast, everybody.
Starting point is 01:33:40 Ewan McGregor's back. Yep. The other guy's back. The guy from the crap version of Sherlock. Yeah. Yeah. Johnny Lee Millerregor's back. Yep. The other guy's back. The guy from the crap version of Sherlock. Yeah. Johnny Lee Miller. Johnny Lee Miller.
Starting point is 01:33:49 The other guy's back. Robert Carlyle, yes, he's back. Were Robert Carlyle and Johnny Lee Miller in, were they both in Plunkett and McLean?
Starting point is 01:33:58 I couldn't tell you. I'm going to look it up. It sounds like they could be. That's never even occurred to me that they were both in Trainspotting and
Starting point is 01:34:04 then they were both in the famous film Plunkett and McLean. But you know, what was I going to say? Trainspotting. Trainspotting. Danny Boyle was one of my favourite directors.
Starting point is 01:34:14 They were both in Plunkett and McLean. You've done it, Mason. Good work. I made that link. I love Trainspotting. I thought this was never going to happen because Danny Boyle was kind of talked about through the years,
Starting point is 01:34:23 but him and Ewan McGregor had a bit of a falling out because Ewan McGregor was supposed to be in The Beach because that's a Danny Boyle was kind of talked about through the years but him and Ewan McGregor had a bit of a falling out because Ewan McGregor was supposed to be in the beach because that's a Danny Boyle film yeah and Danny Boyle joint please thank you and there was some studio interference and they thought marketing whatever whatever so they put in Lena DiCaprio as the lead oh because he was bigger at the time than Ewan McGregor so I know they've obviously like they mended bridges after that or whatever because he Ewan McGregor was kind of his go-to guy they did like shallow grave together yeah and transporting did they do anything else i don't know i can't remember but and that and then he was also like well the idea of the
Starting point is 01:34:53 sequel there's actually a sequel book it's called porno i think it's set 10 years okay and is this going to be an adaptation of that yeah uh yeah uh but in that he goes well they all look so good in real life and you'd kind of want people who this is kind of, this heroin abuse has taken its toll. Oh, it's ruined them, yeah. Yeah. But also in that book, Ewan McGregor's character, he's moved to Amsterdam and he's kind of,
Starting point is 01:35:15 he's learnt martial arts because he knows that, who's the psychopath guy? The Robert Carlyle's character is coming after him. Yeah. So he's kind of cleaned up his act and he runs a club or a bar or something. Okay, right. Yes. Is that in the book?
Starting point is 01:35:27 It's in the book, yeah. I don't know whether they're going to do any of that though, but I'd imagine they would. Yeah, I mean, it's going to be – the most interesting thing about this for me would be what are they going to do to make these handsome Hollywood actors look like they've been using heroin for 15 years. I mean, some of them would have not. Yeah. how these handsome Hollywood actors look like they've been using heroin for 15 years.
Starting point is 01:35:47 I mean, some of them would have not. You know, I think a lot of them do kind of move on. Right. We'll see how we go. But do you think it's going to be makeup? Do you think they're going to CGI them? No, I don't think so. Having seen some of the on-set photos, they just kind of look just a bit older. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 01:36:01 All right, great. I'm excited, though. Yeah, you seem excited. This is from at scarecrow 896 would you prefer the bloody first 895 scarecrows were they bloody taken is that what happened there got him good work yeah would you prefer that instead of the prequels lucas had made episodes seven eight and nine no no definitely not ah no do you mean what is the No. No? Definitely not. Ah, no. Do you mean, is the question that we need a sequel?
Starting point is 01:36:28 Because the original plan was to just keep making them in the 80s. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he was going to get other directors as well. But then it's also, would he have made them instead of when he made the prequels? Yeah. Because that would have been, oh, that would not have been good. Would have had that weird prequel Sheen aesthetic. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:36:44 Yeah. And if he'd made Force Awakens, I don't think he would have had any, it wouldn't have had any of the kind of the, like the sentimentality of it. Right. It would have been like, because I think that Force Awakens for me
Starting point is 01:36:57 at least hit like a sweet spot of like, you know, there's some sentimentality here. There's nostalgia, but it's not just, here, have a look at all this. Like there was some genuine, genuinely good moments in it in it yeah and you felt for the characters yeah i don't think if lucas directed that i don't think he would have had any of that which is what he initially wanted to do though he wanted to make episode seven yeah and then hand it over to disney right and they're like we're gonna buy this nah take the yeah We want to do it. Just take your $4 billion and let us do it.
Starting point is 01:37:25 Also, I think if I want to get either of the trilogies ruined, I'd prefer it to be the prequel trilogy because I don't necessarily care as much about those characters as I do Luke Skywalker, Han Solo, Princess Leia. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, okay, you're probably right. It would be interesting to see, though... Somebody else's prequels?
Starting point is 01:37:44 Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Yours, specifically. Almost else's prequels? Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Yours, specifically. Almost anyone's. Who would you cast as Ewan McGregor? Probably Robert Carlyle. See how that goes.
Starting point is 01:37:53 I don't know. That's a really good question because we haven't seen the remaining... That's right. We haven't seen 8 and 9 yet. That's right. Exactly. We don't know how this is going to play out.
Starting point is 01:38:04 It could be terrible. Yeah, and I get... Because sequels, you can go any direction you want. Any direction. And I really enjoyed The Force Awakens, but again... Really enjoyed it. Are you doing that thing where you just copy everything I say? Yep.
Starting point is 01:38:19 Great. But the sequels could go anywhere, and I like The Force Awakens, but it was just they built another giant thing and the good guys had to go in and blow it up. So if you'd gotten Lucas to do some sequels, maybe they would have been real dumb. Maybe he would have gone in a different direction that wasn't blowing stuff up.
Starting point is 01:38:39 Because that's kind of what he tried to do with the prequels. It wasn't just giant things blowing up. But I would have loved to see three prequels that was set immediately before new hope yes like that's what we're kind of getting with yeah exactly we didn't we didn't need everybody's entire childhood no because the four five and six are set in close proximity to one another it's never made sense to me why one two and three were set decades before yeah yeah yeah they should and it breaks the premise of the star wars movies that it's it's a movie serial and we're just going in every we're going in every week or every month to see a new installment of this yeah why why do we know exactly i got
Starting point is 01:39:23 it should have just been during the war yeah between the rebels and the and the empire or it may be tail end of the or clone wars some of the clones and there would have been no references there would have been no anakin skywalker walker turning into darth vader yeah because otherwise in episode five the audience the audience watching i'm doing air quotes you are under the blanket uh there would have been you know the audience would have been like yeah of course he's the fuck yeah we all know we all know exactly there would have been no surprise so i would have liked to see somebody else taking crack at the prequels maybe maybe one day we'll get a prequel reboot yeah it's it's it's possible
Starting point is 01:39:58 yeah go to we will never not see more star wars movies no if everyone goes to space avalanche the webcomic, the comic up there at the moment is what would happen if George Lucas dies. I won't spoil it for you, but that is one of my favourite cartoonists. He's terrific. Space Avalanche. Space Avalanche.
Starting point is 01:40:13 Defenders of the Earth. Defenders. Out of the sky, his rockets ignite. Gets into battle, flying faster than light. Flashcore. Lord of the jungle The hero who stalks The beasts call him brother
Starting point is 01:40:29 The ghost of war And two Defenders of the Earth Last one, just quickly. A lot of people emailed in about this. J.K. Simmons is pretty ripped. Yeah, he is. Do you think he's any chance he'll take over as Batman at some point?
Starting point is 01:40:43 Oh, like he did in the new 52. Probably not. He's 61. Yeah. Do you think he's just ripped generally? Yes. Really? Oh, in Whiplash, he's wearing a tight tee, isn't he?
Starting point is 01:40:53 Also, the thing that he has, it's specifically designed to blast your bloody biceps, mate. So it goes across the chest. So he's ripped, but that makes him even look rippeder up. Oh, even more rippeder up. Yeah. Look, I think it's probably for one of two things
Starting point is 01:41:05 it's either going to be like you see there's a scene I mean again he's probably ripped he seems ripped anyway
Starting point is 01:41:10 but if he's getting extra ripped it's either for a scene where he's like he's I don't know he's just gearing up to fight Batman
Starting point is 01:41:17 or to team up with Batman and you see him put on the gun holster and stuff like that and he's just got a t-shirt on
Starting point is 01:41:24 and he's looking real ripped and you go okay he's an older guy but he's just got a t-shirt on. He's looking real ripped. And you go, okay, he's an older guy, but he's ready to fight. Yeah. Or we're going to have another nightmare future prophecy scene where he's... He does have the beard, doesn't he? Yeah. So I think maybe it's a scene where it's the future and he's one of the last members of the Resistance.
Starting point is 01:41:41 Yeah. And it's like, Gordon, you're still alive kind of thing. That's great. I would love that. Me too. J. Yeah. And it's like, Gordon, you're still alive kind of thing. And it's a bit, that's great. I would love that. JK Simmons, post-apocalyptic future. If anybody's going to survive a post-apocalyptic future. Stand the up your horse.
Starting point is 01:41:51 Yeah, exactly. Right. I brought my horse, everyone. It's JK Simmons. Good stuff. Great.
Starting point is 01:42:02 I'd love that. All right. I need to get out of here. I really need to go to the bathroom. Ugh. Yeah. What a perfect end to the show. I drank too much water.
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Starting point is 01:43:27 but it's not out here yet. We also just might talk about the state of video game movies in general and how that's going. Okay, let's do a Warcraft episode. Let's do movies that... What are we doing? Movies that have been adapted into video games. I think we did that.
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Starting point is 01:44:11 I know, I noticed. What is this fake-out game you're playing? Oh, it's cold when I'm not under this blanket. Yeah. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret. The other, a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost.
Starting point is 01:44:37 FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+.

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