The Weekly Planet - 160 Doctor Strange is...(& Batman woes)

Episode Date: November 7, 2016

The MCU opens up this week with the release of Doctor Strange! We get stuck right into that as well as new trailers for Wonder Woman, XXX3, Lego Batman and Trainspotting 2. Also Deadpool 2 losing a composer, The Flash losing a director and the Batman solo movie having a real crap script. Thanks for listening!Doctor Strange Easter Egg video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZrAFa1JdCwFilthy Casuals Podcast: https://goo.gl/n9zdkm 0:00 http://www.lootcrate.com/weeklyplanet promo code weeklyplanet for $3 off2:38 XXX3 Trailer 26:35 Justice League8:08 Johnny Depp in Fantastic Beasts12:55 Lego Batman Movie Trailer15:43 T2 Trainspotting 221:33 Starship Troopers reboot24:31 Deadpool 2 composers leaves26:49 The Flash loses (another) director29:25 The Batman has a crap script apparently37:11 New Wonder Woman trailer43:06 Doctor Strange Spoiler Free Review101:46 Doctor Strange Spoiler Review15:38 What We Reading/What We Gonna Read1:22:07 Letters It’s Time For LettersBuy Doctor Strange on Amazon: https://amzn.to/2AWYZlcPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesMr Sunday Movies YouTube Channel: https://goo.gl/lB90W2The Weekly Planet YouTube Channel: https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHFind our T-Shirts here: https://goo.gl/q6gE9C Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret, the other a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+. Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Weekly Planet, official podcast of comicbookmovie.com where we talk movies, comics, TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday. With me at the door is my co-host nick mason did you say witless sunday witless sunday movies guaranteed every time what's going on in your life just taking a sip of this delightful diet coke

do you prefer it over the other coke zero whatever yes i do i went in i went i was on the way here and i stopped at a fish and chip shop great story no moving on no it's a really look it isn't a good story but but i'm propelling forward because you've been disdainful of it so i went in there and i'm like oh you gotta you gotta diet coke and and they're like no just coke zero and i'm like i've been i've been sent to get a diet coke like oh the little lady wants a diet coke guess what it's for me yeah no i... You often refer to yourself as the little lady. That's fine. Yeah, yeah.

I'm the littlest lady of podcasting. Should I move this slightly closer? Yeah, I think it's a little bit too far. Okay, cool. I mean, you sound great. Thank you. But I think you could sound greater. Okay, here we go.

There you go. All right. That was great. Oh, you know what? Here's something new with me. What? This week I was on the excellent podcast. Oh, here we go.

No, no. No, it's time. It's time for plugs. Look, we've heard a little bit about me. I love Diet Coke. I love a crisp Diet Coke. Here we go. No, no. It's time for plugs. Look, we've heard a little bit about me. I love Diet Coke. I love a crisp Diet Coke. But also, I'm on a lot of other podcasts sometimes.

So I was on the podcast Serious Issues this week, which is the podcast about comic books. And I went with the host, a friend of the show, Andrew Levins, and we went through all the number one issues this week. Yes, yes. We talked about Teen Titans. We talked about Batman Beyond. We talked about Punisher.

We talked about batman beyond we talked about punisher we talked about wolf cop what yeah what i found there's there was one comic i want to talk about in our segment of what we read in this week but i've been reading that you guys brought up that i want to second that as it were but if you're looking for a podcast podcast that's like more comic based than ours which is just kind of like we sometimes read some comics i said this on the show uh that that we talk about comic books so rarely that when we do talk about a comic book, we can just be like, the art's good. We don't have to get into any specifics. The art's good.

I don't know. But we really got into it. And in listening to some episodes of it and doing the show, I'm like, I should read some more comics. I've bloody got some comics ready here. Absolutely. There's about 20 or so ongoing, 20 to 30 stuff i i probably read every week wow so but i'm not like this guy who reads like literally everything right maybe worth a listen mason it's real good get into what i say maybe you should give it a listen all right

speaking of serious issues mason in the world of in the world of... It feels like 2003, The Return of Xander Cage. Yes. I just watched that trailer seconds ago. I don't know how to feel about it. Like, some of it seems so dumb. Yeah. And there's some bad green screen in that trailer. Like, especially at the very end where he leaps out of the plane.

Leaps out of the plane. There's a bit where his motorcycle transforms into a jet ski. Yep. And that is some just some awful he's clearly just on a set and they've they've gotten some like 1960s hawaii 50 footage like some stock footage and they've green screened it over the top of him absolutely he's surfing the tube he's hanging 10 in the tube it's no good it doesn't have that fast and furious budget does it no it seems like it's going for that level of ridiculousness and where there's

a team we're assembling a team yeah because the i guess the first one did okay but he was like i better movies than this so he bailed right and then they got ice cube right and i don't think that did well and then everybody forgot because jackass went off the air right yeah and extreme sports kind of stopped being everywhere That's right They're still around And then he was like Look ultimately

I didn't do better movies Some of them were fun But they're all kind of the same I don't know if I'm doing Another Riddick So I'm back baby That's right I think he's looking for

Another Fast and the Furious Because he did that Witch Hunter movie Early this year You can just make Two Fast and Furious movies In a year Yeah just make two a year

Who cares It's fine. It kind of looks amazing, though. The people that love these kind of movies aren't going to be like, oh, another one this year. Yeah, that's right. No, thank you. Some of it does look pretty good, though.

Some of the martial arts looks pretty good, but it just really hammers home like, this is the coolest guy and he says the coolest thing all the time and he's always roller blading down a mountain and bouncing off a bus. What's great about it and he's always he's always rollerblading down a mountain yeah bouncing off a bus what's great about it is he's not 30 yeah he's like he's probably 50 like maybe let's say 48 conservatively and yeah exactly and he's doing like taking a skateboard up the side of a bus yeah right you know what i mean like a man who's that age would break everybody in his body there's got to be some there's some good body. There's got to be some, there's some good, like there seems to be some creative action stuff in there.

Sure. But I kind of feel like this whole thing is, I'm going to be enjoying an action sequence in the movie, then just some bad special effect comes in and ruins everything. Absolutely. But I think that's why I might enjoy it for that very reason. Yeah. Mason, we're doing an unboxing this week.

Oh, can I crack open the loot cart? I'm going to do it right now. Hey, do we have Josh Trank news? It was from last week. We missed it. I meant to put it in and you meant to put it in and we didn't talk about it. Anyway, this bloody loot crate,

we're sponsored by Loot Crater this week and it's horror. We missed it by a week. But look, if anything, this is scary. This is how they're scheduled in, man. I don't know what to tell you. Look, in a way, the spookiest thing of all is when a halloween loot crate the week after because you're not expecting it that's right this is something you're gonna love the t-shirt this week walking dead themed look at

that oh that's actually very good yeah i know right it's your favorite character negan no i love jeffrey dean morgan yeah i know right of Negan. I'm just very iffy on The Walking Dead for a number of reasons. There's so much that I love about that show and so much that I hate. That's a sweet T-shirt. Look at his charming little smile on there. He's great. We were talking about Grey's Anatomy before the show and how it's been going for 11 years for some reason.

Oh, he was somebody's love interest and then he died, right? He had a heart transplant and then he died. And then that song about chasing cars was everywhere for three years. Yeah, I remember. Oh, you could not escape it. No, you couldn't. You could get – that was one of those – you know how every so often you have this rare thing where you're listening to a song on the radio,

you change the channel and it's the same song again? Yeah, sure. You could do that every day. Five times. Yeah, multiple times a day. Anyway, good on again. Yeah, sure. You could do that every day. Five times. Yeah, multiple times a day. Anyway, good on him. Yeah, he's good, man. This will be a sweet reminder of that.

He was in Supernatural. He's in Watchmen. He's in Batman v Superman. I hope they get him for alternate timeline Thomas Wade. Me too. Crazy Batman future. Why else would they put him in here? Yeah, exactly.

All right, next bit of news, Mason. Kieran Hines has been cast as Steppenwolf In the Justice League Justice League movie, I had to think about it What's that one in? Yeah, so he's Mance Raider Mance Rider That's not helping

He was the king of the bloody The bloody people over the wall In Game of Thrones Oh, okay, right, sure He died a couple of seasons back. Spoiler alert, I guess. He was also in Harry Potter. He's Dumbledore's brother.

He's in a bunch of stuff. I think it's a good choice. Rumbledore. Rumbledore, yeah. Who's the... He's a real... No, he's Dumbledore's brother but he's real shady.

Like, he runs like a shady farm. He's up to shady stuff with livestock. Dumbledore seems... Dumbledore's also shady, yes. Yeah, right? He's shady and he's surrounded by

a series of increasingly more shady people. Correct, yeah. He's shady And he's surrounded by A series of increasingly More shady people Correct He's done some real shady stuff Check this out Look at this There's a book in this one It's the

Legion of Regrettable Supervillains Wow I didn't think they even Put books in here This is great I haven't seen a book In 14 years Not since I went to

The premiere of XXXII Wow Bloody hell This is great Hardcover as well. It's a hardcover and it's all about like forgotten sort of B-list villains from like back in the day. Dumb stuff.

Mr. Dracula. The Horrible Hand, who from what I can tell is literally a giant hand. Great. This is great. Can I tune out for the rest of the episode and just read this book? Ideally not, but if you have to, I guess. I think I have to. Okay.

It's really good. I'm a huge fan of these just love it. There's actually a bit of DC news this week, Mason. Okay, fine. Back to the news. Back to the news. And we're going to jump back and forth because if we're talking bloody Dumbledore's brother, Johnny Depp is apparently in Fantastic Beasts.

Where are they? Have you seen them? There's one. Get him. Again, they're in the case. Just don't open the case and you'll be fine. Mason, I've got a feeling you're going to be yelling that a lot when you go see this film.

Yeah. Well, traditionally when we go to a movie premiere and there's an intern or like a director of marketing or something who comes in and introduces the film, I quietly go, boo. And then I wait until he's said it and I'm like, boo, slightly louder. Maybe if we go to the Fantastic Beasts premiere, I can be like, tell them not to open the case.

Tell Eddie Redmayne. What I love about it as well, those guys who get up, they clearly don't know anything about it, which is fine. Your job doesn't have to be to be across all movie properties, but they're just like, they're really fake enthusiastic about a thing they know nothing about, and that always amuses me. Yeah, good on them though. Everyone earns a crust, Mason.

Don't they? Yes. So yeah, Johnny Depp is in Fantastic Beasts, apparently. We don't know in what role. Rumoured that he's either young Dumbledore or young gay wizard Hitler. Sure, absolutely. We talked about the other week. Grindelwald, because this movie is going to, and the subsequent films are going to see

the rise of the great wizarding war, which paralleled World War II, which we talked about. There's actually a video. From our friend, Roar Collins. Which Roar Collins made. At the Weekly Planet on Twitter. You can bloody check that out. Yeah, what do you think about Johnny Depp? Probably putting on a dumb wig and a dumb

hat and a dumb outfit i'm kind of i think stop stop putting johnny depp in things i agree i think look there's there's some problems with johnny depp right at the moment yes and maybe maybe let's put him away for a while sure in a box you know what take your 50 million dollars that you got from pirates of the caribbean and just don't be around anymore. It's fine. What's he... He doesn't need the money. He's not doing it for the art. Right. He's just doing it because he has to be in movies, I guess.

I guess, yeah. No, but people want to work. I didn't see a problem with that. Okay, fine. And look, all this personal stuff aside, he's... Which, you know, again, I don't know the details of. Maybe he's fantastic. I have no idea.

To be honest, I don't really care about yeah in any way but uh the harry potter movies to me they're ridiculous and fantastical worlds but the actors they get they don't really ham it up unless it calls for it yep like an umbridge or uh who's the who's the guy gary oldman he does all right who's the guy who the teacher he hams it up in that little wanted poster so he doesn't prison get me out of prison i don't want to sit still for this magical He does alright. Who's the guy who the teacher... No, he hams it up in that little Wanted poster. So he does... I'm in prison. Get me out of prison.

I don't want to sit still for this magical photograph. Ah, you know. But he wasn't... I don't remember nothing else about his performance in that movie except for the Wanted poster. You know, he plays the teacher, defensive against the dark arts, Lockhart. Kenneth Branagh.

And he's like this big, foppish, over-the-top wizard. It calls for something like that, but everyone else is kind of really grounded and and down to earth and they don't put in these ridiculous performances and i think johnny depp would just come in and just johnny depp all over everything yeah yeah yeah look i understand look i understand you all this all the set pieces have been written and uh and all the all the action sequences the... Look, my main scene is going to be in the library. If you could have a big stone wheel installed in the library and I can run along it and go... Also, I want two wads. Yep.

Great. Camp Crystal Lake Pennant. Ah, very good. Ever been there? No, it's fictional, Mason. And also, how would I get it live? Yeah, you wouldn't. You're not a teen. Ah, very good. Ever been there? No, it's fictional, Mason. And also, how would I get out alive? Yeah, you wouldn't. You're not a teen.

You'd be fine. No, but I'm also not a virgin. Well. Guys, no, I'm not. I'm not, guys. All right, so I'm dead. That's how it works. Okay, fair enough.

Yeah. Would you insist that when you're in there? Yeah, guys. Come on. I mean, my girlfriend lives in Canada. That's why she's not here. And FaceTime isn't working, so I can't. Guys, no, my girlfriend lives in Canada. That's why she's not here and FaceTime isn't working. So I can't.

Guys, no, it's true though. We'll stick that up on the bloody walls of the man cave, I think. You mean regular room? No. What I love about Jason, it's Jason, isn't it? Yes. I get confused from him and the other two with a mask. I feel now anytime we have to talk about horror, we panic.

Yes. Unrelated, our when I unrelated but when I was on serious issues this week yeah Levens is like what comic books have you been reading this year

and I just froze like on the spot I've been listening I've been reading dozens couldn't think of a single one yeah yeah you could have opened up your phone and bloody scrolled through

nah so they're on my iPad I didn't bring it in oh okay you know you can sync those up I'm not going to I don't know how but you can

yeah well good great what was I talking about yeah Camp Crystal Lakes and Jason I love it in oh okay you know you can sync those up I'm not going to I don't know how but you can yeah well good great what was I talking about yeah Camp Crystal Lakes and Jason I love it in those movies how the teens are just so super irresponsible

it's like to a ridiculous degree yeah like you know your kid's drowning and they're off just having sex in a cabin watching watching the kid drown or whatever's going on

anyway Mason yes Lego Batman movie trailer you texted me Leto Batman trailer. I did, yes. Your phone has... Why does my phone self-correct to Leto?

Well, it's because you text so many... Like, I always text you, James, seriously, who's your favorite actor of all time? And your phone has just learned to... Who's the most serious and best actor of all time? And your phone has learned to autocomplete Leto. And now you just send that back. I put in any actor. Yeah. And it auto-corrects. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, Lego Batman. Yeah, yeah. phone has learned to autocomplete Leto. And now you just send that back. I put in any actor and it auto-corrects. Yeah.

Anyway, Lego Batman. Yeah, yeah. What do you think? Was there a new trailer? Did I miss it? I texted it to you! I don't believe you. I thought when you...

Because you texted back and said, wouldn't it be great if there was a Leto Batman movie? And I thought that you understood that I meant Lego Batman. But you didn't. No, look, I didn't. Anyway. Look, you've caught me flat-footed because you sent me that.

What did you think that exchange was? No, no, look. I got caught up in it. Yeah, you did. What's it like? Tell me what it's like. It's great, man. I'm really looking forward to it.

It looks really funny. What do we see in this one? Because in the previous ones, we've seen, you know, this, you know, journeys this one because in the previous ones we've seen you know this you know journeys into the Batcave we've seen him have a mental breakdown

and remember his life as all the previous Bert and Schumacher Batman films there's a lot of like different vehicles and stuff there's Robin who's super annoying

man you should have told me to watch this you know I'm going to watch it in silence as this we talk about this no we'll come back to it alright fine

but it looks great plush leather face that's what we got in here it's a plush leather face I'm going to enjoy it you know we've got two because you've got one as well sure

let the dog sleep with one no yeah no do it I don't want to do that she would destroy it anyway yeah that's what she's about you know what trailer you did watch this week, Mason?

Just now. Train Spotting 2. Oh, we finished with this because I've since actually watched. Oh, and? I watched it. It looks great. Yeah, yeah. There's a little homage to Batman v Superman.

There certainly is. Yeah, he talks about how Superman's his greatest enemy. Yeah, yeah. It's quite funny. There's a little visual gag where he takes off his Batman cowl in his limousine. Yeah. His hair clicks around to the hair that he wants. Yeah, yeah.

And it looks super fun. Absolutely, it does. Very excited. Love it. Is that the Carrie Kelly Robin or is it just a generic Robin? We don't know who it is. I couldn't tell you. I can't remember.

I think it's Barbara Gordon. No, but in this one we've got, there's Barbara Gordon, there's Robin. I think Robin's a boy. Okay, great. Yeah, I think. I might be wrong. As traditional's Barbara Gordon, there's Robin. I think Robin's a boy. Okay, great. Yeah, I think. As traditional for a Robin. That's right. Yep.

Did The Flash lose its director this week? Have we talked about that? Yes, it did. We'll come to that in a minute. I just couldn't remember whether it was last week or this week. Because last week, I double reported on Deadpool losing its director. Yep, that's right. But we haven't talked about it, but we will, Mason.

I'm fairly confident it may have, I mean, The Flash may have lost two directors in the span of two weeks yeah well we'll talk about it transporting two yep not a comic book movie no one of my favorite movies and directors danny boyle and so what did you feel in watching this trailer initially i'm like there's a lot of this feels exactly the same right from the music toys choice to the but they've updated so it's like choose twitter choose facebook right yeah exactly yeah and i'm like a bit heavy-handed that being said i've watched it a few times and i've i've high hopes for it i think it could be kind of amazing and not having read the book but knowing a rough idea of the story it's called porno the sequel to transporting okay right that's the sequel okay mostly in chat it looks pretty much on in line with that so it's 20 years later renton's running a nightclub

and all these kind of demons come back to the past. These demons being all the junkies from the first one. Yeah, exactly. Now, it's called T2 Train Spot. Yes, that's right. Which is either a fun dig at the Terminator franchise or it's some sort of promotion from T2 the Tea Shop. T2 the Tea Shop, yeah.

Do you love a t2t i'm not against it sure it's often a gift that i wonder why people give it to each other well it's the it's the modern day body shop yeah right i mean just what do you get when you don't know i've got 45 seconds to buy a birthday gift for that person at my work i don't know what they want oh body shop yeah t2 t2 yeah and see will happen is eventually, do they have T2s in other countries? Maybe it's just Australian. Who knows? But eventually-

They have Terminator 2 in other countries. Definitely. Yeah, that's right. But eventually, the officers at large will realize that it is the last minute gift of choice and we'll have to switch to something else. Right, right. They'll lose all the last minute gift business and we'll have to switch to something else right right lose all the last minute gift business and we'll have to move to something else that being said i'm happy to spruik them sure right if you're listening to yeah i like to i'm a tea drinker

mason because i don't drink coffee as you know i like tea too very good maybe that's why it's called what it is maybe maybe it's not anyway are you excited for train spotting 2 long-awaited sequel sort of? Look, I don't think I have the attachment to the characters. Okay, fair enough. And do you think that... Because they're all pricks? In a way. Yeah.

Do you think... And that movie was just grotty. Yeah, that's why I like it. I'm not a fan. This one looks much cleaner. Yeah, it does. I mean, there's some drug use in it, but it all seems like it's going to be cut away very quickly.

Yeah, absolutely, yeah. Yeah, I don't know if I have the affection for those original characters. Do you think they're going to be true to the original or do you think it's just going to be... Just whatever. Just whatever, right? Because Ewan McGregor's looking great, as you might imagine. They're supposed to be more run down, I think,

except for Renton because he kind of clears up. He's Ewan McGregor. He's Ewan McGregor, but he cleans himself up. And he knows that, for a movie that I love what's his name Digby or Bigby I can't remember Robert Carlyle

comes back he knows he's going to come back at some point so he learns martial arts oh that's fun yeah so he's ready here's a question that I would be interested in

knowing the answer to you may not know the answer to but I wonder if Irvine Welsh wrote porno based on the idea that ewan margarita became a big star and you know sort of became the breakout star of that sorry yeah yeah potentially well when was it i'll find out when it was written because it'll be weird i'm typing porno into google how do i make this no no that's, that's going to be in there forever now. No, not going to help.

Sequel, there you go. Porno book heroine, that'll do it. 2002, it was published in 2002, so that's very possible. Yeah, because it'd be weird if they made a new Trainspotting movie and Bigby was the main character who'd cleaned up his life and was, you know, not even Robert Carle, but like that weird goggle-eyed guy. Oh, right, yeah, yeah. Imagine if he'd been... That guy. The book had been written with him as the main character

and everybody else was. And Renton was kind of down and out. Right, right. And he'd fallen back into his heroin-using ways. And then he shows up and it's the amazing-looking Ewan McGregor and he's got abs and he's like, oh, I just need one more hit. It's me, rich and famous Ewan McGregor this is

my life sucks now look how good my hair is such good hair doesn't it god he's the best I love him

what was I gonna say I can't remember what I'm gonna say Freddy Krueger chopsticks good right that's good yeah

one of cinema history's greatest monsters. But get your bloody Mooshu Pork out with it. You know what I mean? Great stuff. Also, there's a bloody loop pin. I think there's a bloody downloadable game, which looks pretty good.

Yep. Which one is it? It looks like it's a Steam game. Yeah. Which is always great. And it's called Super Fight. Okay. So you pit various odd ducks against each other.

Drunk ninjas, Abraham Lincoln's riding bears, that sort of thing. Love it. That's very on brand for us, I feel. It totally is. We love all those things. Anyway, that's all the stuff that's in there, which is pretty good. Well, before we do the rest of the news, I just want to quickly say November's theme for Loot Crate is magical.

And if you signed up before the 19th the items uh that included are you'll love this dr strange will i love a good point uh by the way this is our dr strange episode i'll probably say them the title uh big trouble in little china oh back on board game of thrones okay all right too cruel a universe for me but maybe it'll be a fun bloody, maybe it'll be a bloody Hodor bobblehead or something. Yeah, or a dire wolf sock puppet. And magical beasts, where are they?

Have you seen them? They're in the case. They're in the case. That's an amazing month. Maybe that's just me. Yeah, even though maybe you don't like the horrible Game of Thrones universe. Yeah, good stuff.

Mason, Starship troopers is getting a oh sorry if you want if you do sign up lootcrate.com slash weekly planet promo code weekly planet one word

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uh what do we got here sorry starship troopers is getting a reboot from the writers of freddy v jason and babe watch did i say babe watch that's what i used to call it because of all the babes oh yeah i never watched babe watch is getting a reboot from the writers of Freddy V. Jason and Babe Watch. Did I say Babe Watch? That's what I used to call it because of all the babes.

Oh, yeah. I never watched Babe Watch. Did you watch Babe Watch? Yeah, I think so. Yeah. We were a one TV household in the 90s. So you couldn't be in the lounge room watching Babe Watch. No.

Well, the ABC was always on. That's a good point. Didn't watch. It was always the 7.30 report. The government broadcaster did not show Baywatch. No, they didn't. Yeah. Yeah.

So have you heard about this? It was very wholesome Baywatch. Okay. I mean, it didn't look wholesome. That was the whole key to it. Right. It was just a fun show about rescuing, you know, dogs that were having trouble in a rip and family values,

but also boobs. That's how it became the biggest TV show in the world for a while. Yeah, briefly. Jason Momoa actually started off in a Baywatch spin-off TV series. Baywatch Nights. I don't think it was that one. It was like Malibu or whatever. Was there another spin-off?

It was another one. I don't know what it was. It was maybe Baywatch Hawaii or something. I don't remember. Anyway, the writers have talked about it. They said, for the record, we think Verhoeven's version is amazing. So that was the 97? Yep.

Was it 97? And we are trying to redo it. I love the original. No, I've written that here. I love the original. I do love the original. Do you like the original? I do love the original.

It's amazing. I mean, I have not seen it since it came to home video back in the day. Really? It's been that long? I think so, yeah. You've watched the third one, though. I missed two, but I watched three. We watched it together.

What did you think of the third one? Oh, good. Shithouse. There were mechs in it, because they couldn't put the mechs in it in the 90s one because it was too expensive. That's right. That is a crazy expensive movie.

When you look at the special effects, and a lot of it holds up, they put a lot of money into that, for some reason, for an R-rated, gory as hell, you know, what it was. But no, I think it's great. And sure, reboot it. What else are they doing with it? Nothing.

But I mean, that's, what was, here's your question for you. What was the last Paul Verhoeven movie they rebooted? Robocop. Robocop. And it was fine. It was fine. There we go. Yeah, it wasn't great

But it was okay Yeah but I You know what they'll probably do They'll probably make it More like the book But less gory That's probably what they'll do Yeah you're exactly right

Because Johnny Rico Is he Puerto Rican Or something I can't remember No No he's Johnny He's Johnny Where's Johnny

Because Johnny Rico Is not a Casper Van Dien Looking dude Okay right Yeah I don't know Yeah look I think They might do it exactly

Like they did it with Robocop. Yeah. They'll put in the mech suits from the book. Filipino, sorry. There we go. They'll put in the mech suits from the book. They'll make it more accurate to the book. It won't be as much of a...

I don't think it'll be as sort of fascist leaning. It might just be a straight ahead war movie with aliens. You need that. I think you need that. I liked the little snippets of news footage and the propaganda. I thought that was fun. Yeah, right.

Anyway, good luck. Do it. I don't know if that even works anymore. It's too close to real life at this point. Okay, sure. Absolutely. Junkie XL has left Deadpool 2, the composer. I know who Junkie XL is.

This is for everybody, Mason. You're not the only one who listens to this podcast. All right? I'm also here. The dog's is. This is for everybody, Mason. You're not the only one who listens to this podcast. All right? I'm also here. The dog's away. Where is the dog? The dog's at the folks' house because I was away for the weekend. I couldn't take the dog.

You could have taken the dog. No, I couldn't because there were other dogs there and the dogs weren't allowed in the house. And there was no fence, so I couldn't leave her outside because she would just run into the night. And as you know, she's a black dog, so you can't see her at night. And she'll show up with her back legs not working again like that other time yeah

that was snake related though yeah I remember anyway Junkie XL who I'm very aware of he's the guy that did he's probably most famous for he did the he did that remix

of Elvis' Little Miss Conversation where he was referred to as JXL on like the gold 104 kind of like the golden oldies station when they played it they're like this is JXL

because you can't say Junkie oh okay you can't really say Junkie at all at all now can't say junkie no it's dismissive they're not going to say junkie and transporting too oh they'll be like i don't know what else i don't know like is danny you're a heroin aficionado that's right yeah exactly you're an opioid enthusiast yeah are you is danny boyle kind of still controversial I think so there's a full frontal Rosario Dawson nude scene in the

the one about hypnotism I can't remember what it's called it's okay and it is when I talk full frontal I mean like

I'm waving my hands I don't know how else I can explain it alright yeah all the business whoa so I think he's still

he's still got an edge that bloke also he had that guy cut off his arm in that movie we saw that didn't we oh yeah that's right yeah yeah

anyway he's got a quote for why he left Tim was the driving force behind Deadpool and me getting involved in this amazing project Deadpool without Tim

at the helm just does not sit right with me and that's why I've decided not to be involved in the second chapter fair enough great

and the studio's like fine we'll get somebody else. That's right. Official notice from, what is this, Fox? Yeah. Official notice from Fox, we'll get someone else. Signed the head of Fox, whoever I am. Fine.

It doesn't matter. Jonathan Foxman. We'll get the guy that did the music for Iron Man 3. He's fine, I guess. Yeah, I guess he's fine. Just don't think too much about the music. Everything will be fine. Exactly.

Well, we've touched on some DC news. We've got a whole bunch of other stuff, though. First of all, The Flash has lost its director. Yep. Not a massive deal, necessarily, because it hasn't started. Yeah, and they chop and change directors all the time before things get started. This is the third director to leave the project.

Yep. Phil Lord and Chris Miller, they were never signed on, but they wrote the project. They left to do Han Solo's solo movie. Who else jumped on? A writer who's... I did a video on it. In my Wonder Woman trailer breakdown, it's all in there.

And they're all creative differences, apparently, except for the first one. So DC are building this uh this universe apparently all continuity is key and the dc universe the dc universe and you know what i mean and uh what's his name's running it jeff johns apparently but why is nobody getting on the same page what what is this i mean it could be nothing but what do you think's going on is it a case i say that's i don't know surely at this point i would assume at this point jeff johns or somebody's like okay we need the next movie to go exactly like this yeah we want it okay we want this these action beats and these these these dramatic you know this dramatic through line and what have you yeah i want exactly like that because if you go outside of those lines you might mess it up right exactly what do you think what do you think the theory is i think they got

on his names are rick fam you what fam you are it's not pronounced like that i'm 100 sure no it's fam you fam you are did you see dope no he did dope i didn't love it but i can see why people did okay it's it's a very it's a it's a very kind of, I don't know what it is, great characters, it's a very compelling story and whatever. It wasn't really for me. But I can see that he's got a particular vision and he's not a director that you just get to kind of like, can you just make this?

And he's like, sure. I could see how he would have his own particular ideas. Right. But if you're building a universe where you don't want that kind of individual freedom, don't get that guy. Sure, yeah. You know what I mean?

Well, maybe when they got him, maybe they got him... It wasn't that long ago. The last guy left in April. Yeah, okay. Yeah. But I can still see them going, okay, but maybe Wonder Woman's going great, and that's pretty good. So maybe we can get this guy, and maybe he'll have a little bit of individual flair but he

will still stick to he'll still toe the line and now they're in more of a panic mode right and they're like well and maybe because after suicide squad which did well yep but it was very diversive like because i quite liked it yep and and you hated it. Correct. And I can understand why you did because that movie is all over the shop. Like, I get it. So, I think... But apparently, you sent an article for me to read.

It was a Vulture article. We're going to talk about that later? Yeah, we'll talk about it now. Well, it's basically, it's an article about sort of... It's The Ringer, I think, not Vulture. Okay, it's from The Ringer and it's basically,

it's an article about how now people are much more invested in TV. You know, a lot of people are like, you know, TV is great now and movies are bleh. And it's very much about why that is. Long-form storytelling. Long-form storytelling. And, you know, if there's a must-see TV, you have to get to it that week because you can't be spoiled on the internet.

And if you miss a couple of weeks and you're not caught up and you're waiting, so it's sort of appointment TV and you have to watch it. And one of the parts in it is Brett Easton Ellis, author of American Psycho, among other things, and notoriously catty man, who apparently had lunch with some executives who are working with DC

and Warner Brothers executives he clarified that in a follow-up statement okay that it was he was meeting with some executives who had nothing to do with Batman v Superman but knew of people involved in the production right and what they and the information that was given was there were there were a lot of things wrong with the Batman script. 30 things wrong apparently. 30 things wrong with it. And the higher ups at Warner Brothers said, we don't really care. It's going to make a lot of money anyway because it's Batman. And because it's global, 70% of the audience doesn't speak English

who watch it, so don't care. So ultimately, yeah. Which is why Transformers makes a billion dollars every time. Any flaws in the script are sort of subsumed in the idea that you're just watching it for the action. It doesn't really matter what the dialogue is because it's going to get lost a lot of maybe some nuances are going to get lost in translation right and plot details are going to get lost in translation

and like cultural translation and like you know people people overseas might be like why is that character acting like that and it's just what americans do who cares kind of thing so they people just roll with it and that's how these movies get made apparently yeah that's right but the thing i what i think about this is which is very cynical but probably very very yeah look if if it's true and we don't know that it is because brett easton ellis is a man but let's assume let's assume that it is okay at the end of the day executives they're not it's not a charity it's a business yep and whatever works if batman works and they're happy with just putting out a batman movie and it makes a ton

of money i can see why they wouldn't care yeah why would they again it's not a charity that being said the people below that the creative people do care yes and the maybe the reason that affleck hasn't started yet and he's still reluctant to talk about it is because he's still tweaking it he's directing it and he's also writing it with je it is because he's still tweaking it. He's directing it and he's also writing it with Geoff Johns. So I'd imagine even if they don't care,

he fucking cares. You know what I mean? Zack Snyder, Batman v Superman is a bit of a mess, right? But Zack Snyder didn't... Nah, it's fine. Sorry about it.

He didn't set out to make a shit movie. He put everything into it. And so I think the people making them are still heavily invested and they want to get it right, even if the executives don't care.

But I think in, we can talk about Ben Affleck in a second, but I think Zack Snyder's issue is not that he was like, oh, there's flaws in the script, but I've got to keep making this. It's more like he went, wouldn't it be cool if Batman

just shot a truck with a machine gun and everybody blew up. He's very happy with it. I feel he's extremely happy with the final cut of his movie. Of course he is. But that's my point. But the people making them are tweaking it to a degree that they are happy with. They're not just peddling it out, just, ah, this will do whatever.

He's making the best Batman movie that he would want to see. He was capable of making. Yes, that's what I'm saying. Exactly. And I think it goes the same for Ben Affleck. It might still be terrible, but looking at Ben Affleck's track record of filmmaking, it's probably going to be at the very least okay.

Who knows? No, I agree. You're right. I don't know. And we don't know what version of the script this is. No, we don't. We don't know who these people are. We don't know who the executives were you were talking to.

We don't know if they were real. Or if the people they were talking to were real. If anybody knows these people, if they could get them to send us the script and we can give some notes we're good at that i assume yes we've never done it but we're probably great but we're happy yeah we're happy to do it more bat boat more bat boat and let's say again that bat might more bat you know the little the little imp pixie i know i know what it's about but you'd also think again assuming this is true that they would look at batman superman and and say well that didn't make a billion dollars when it should have and the reason it didn't make a billion dollars

is because it didn't resonate with everybody so maybe you'd probably want to do some adjustment that should have made a million a billion maybe a billion and a half and so to me if i was an executive i'd be like well we could have done that better because we would have made half a billion more dollars right okay sure i don't know i think that's a lot of money yeah in a way it is a lot of money yeah yeah but i don't know there's also like they could just shift the blame on somebody else there's always somebody to shift the blame onto somebody to fire right exactly and if if you get a if you get a 10 million dollar bonus every year regardless you can probably be like yeah it was that guy's fault yeah you're right it's that writer's fault it was the it was the cleaner's fault fire him yeah you know i think it was i think they gave

zack snyder a lot of creative freedom and in doing so kind of hamstrung the universe and it didn't get off to the right start and because of that subsequent movies are suffering yeah because they're getting involved going well we gave zack snyder a lot of control maybe we don't want to give the director of the flash that much control right in case he you know ruins it so they're stepping in maybe with the wrong people sure potentially or not the wrong people but just make yeah i think they're learning the wrong lessons up For some of this That's never happened before

Do you think Ben Affleck Could potentially be booted Off his own movie He can't He's Batman He can't be Still I would say he could walk

He could absolutely walk Do you think he'd walk From director but stay as Batman No Definitely not No way That would be weird No way

That would be weird If he was like I'm not happy with the direction This movie's taking But I'll still be Batman I guess Do you think he'd leave Yeah Yeah I don't think he will But I think No way. That would be weird if he was like, I'm not happy with the direction this movie's taking, but I'll still be Batman, I guess. Do you think he'd leave?

Yeah. Yeah. I don't think he will, but I don't think he's afraid to. I think if he didn't think it would work, he would leave. Yeah, I think if they push him too far. Yeah. Like people have let, like Ed, you know, and ultimately it didn't hurt Marvel that Ed Norton is not the Hulk anymore.

No, yeah. I think so. Yeah, that's right. And I mean, this would be a much bigger upset. It would be huge, yeah. But I think people would get, and people would be mad. Yeah. Because people are fired up about a full-length Batman, solo Batman movie with Ben Affleck. And people just got used to the idea that they like him as Batman, you know?

Yeah. Yeah. I think if he walked, I think people would be like, I respect his decision. Yeah. But now I'm very upset because who's going to be the next Batman? The Rock? Yeah. Just get The Rock.

It's fine. Just get The Rock. He's big enough. Yeah. I think also people are comparing it to the Edgar Wright Ant-Man situation. And as I said in my Wonder Woman video, we will talk about Wonder Woman. Okay, great. In a minute.

But that was a very different situation from the perspective of Ant-Man was in the work since like 2004 2005 and edgar wright was always involved pretty much in one form or another and it was supposed to be one of the early films so he would have had a hand in crafting the universe by the time ant-man rolled around that was movie number 11 12 something like that and there's a whole lot of stuff that you have to fit in which he didn't necessarily want to because that wasn't his original vision yes so he left for those reasons i still would have loved to have seen his version of it ain't man's okay i like it it's good but i can i think that's less of a disaster and more of a well we just came to an impasse because things changed correct

yeah it's still a shit situation but it's a different situation than what this is unless all this is made up who knows we'll find out what it is eastern ellis you crafty cat yeah but it was interesting though what if it's just a prank it could be it could be just a prank he's like that maybe he's got another book coming out yeah it's potentially yeah anyway wonder woman got a new trailer yes it did what do you think looks pretty good absolutely yeah yeah uh we got that we got that the Wonder Woman musical sting that's in Batman that one yeah yeah

yeah it's pretty good you like it it's nice villains yep it's a new game Mason it's a new it's a new time for DC

they're bringing in well first of all this is set in World War 1 yep which is not traditionally Wonder Woman's kind of origin story it's more

it's World War 2 yeah I think it's a Captain America thing they don't want to yeah yeah have a comparison also World War 1. I think it's a Captain America thing. They don't want to have a comparison. Also, World War I isn't something that really has been explored lately in movies. And it's so hot right now with Battlefield 1. They've really made this at the right time. But the villains, Doctor Poison, it looks like.

There's the female villain. Yeah, she's a lady doctor. Lady doctor, yeah. She's all about chemical warfare and whatever, was a big deal in world war one yep a lot of the stuff that happened in world war one they shut it down after who's who is cast as dr poison i can't remember her name i think it's a some will it will it potentially be revealed that the woman from the dawn from the office is dr poison wouldn't that be twist? I would say it's very unlikely. Yeah, I know. Yeah. You know what did strike me as a little bit concerning in this?

I don't know if Gal Gadot can carry a movie. How do you figure that? I just don't know whether, and I liked her in Batman Superman. I thought she did a good job, but she's never headlined a movie. I don't know how it's going to go. Yeah. But what are you basing that on? Just these snippets? Yeah, just bits and pieces. Because she doesn't do much acting in this? Yeah, yeah. Maybe it's going to go. Yeah. But what are you basing that on? Just these snippets? Yeah, just bits and pieces.

Because she doesn't do much acting in this? Yeah, yeah. Maybe that's what it is. Again, I haven't seen enough of it to say for sure. And I think she looks great. And I think the action looks spectacular. But I don't know where... Because I've never seen her in anything that she's elevated the source material of being the lead.

So I can't say... I shouldn't say I'm concerned. I just say I don't know. Yeah, no, I agree. But I've not seen her in anything. So I couldn't say. Fast and Furious, one of them. Maybe you didn't see that.

She died in one of them. I don't remember which one. Huh. Oh, she's alive? Oh. I can't remember. No, I think she died. But we get some good solid stuff in this.

Yeah. We get a lot of bullet deflecting. Yeah, man, love it. I was under the impression that she's it well i mean it's weird because wonder woman is bulletproof traditionally yeah but the amazons aren't though apparently not one of them gets shot in this and that was my question what what differentiates her from the other the other people oh right she's made of clay but is she because that depends on what version.

Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. I don't know, man. You know what I mean? Yeah. I know in the last trailer it says that she was made by Zeus. Uh-huh. But in the new 52, that's just a story they tell her.

Yeah, right. And that's not true. Uh-huh. So I wonder which way that's going to go. The larger question is if she is bulletproof, why is she using the braces? Because they're bulletproof. Yeah. Oh, no, I'm...

Oh, if she is. I don't think she is. Okay, right. I think the braces? Because they're bulletproof. Yeah. Oh, no, I'm... Oh, if she is. I don't think she is. Okay, right. I think... How'd she fight Doomsday then? Well, she didn't... He's not shooting bullets, is he? And also, I guess she's been around

for another hundred years. Yeah. I get the impression that maybe her cost a lot of... Like, maybe it's a lot of enchanted equipment on the costume, which makes her... Well, Doomsday hits her with heat vision

and she just crosses her arms and she's fine. So there must be some kind of field going on there. I don't know what it is. Yeah, I don't know. Interesting, isn't it, Mason?

It is very interesting. And I still think the main villain is... Ares? Ares, yeah. And it might be that guy from Wolverine Origins. Danny Houston.

Or it might not be. Maybe he's got a bloody portal that he cuts a man's throat and he puts the blood gets in and then the blood goes around in a in a bloody circle on the ground yeah makes a thing and then aries comes out he's all cgi maybe yeah yeah yeah have you ever seen that before no never it's just a thing we've just invented just now it's a good idea though somebody should take it put it in a movie maybe you could put it in hellboy or maybe every third episode of supernatural yeah put it in that yeah good stuff what else happens in this uh war looks good she does the she does

the classic she she saves steve trevor from yes that's a that's a cool throwback to the the superman the first superman movie which you love i know what do you think of chris pine's hair great some point isn't it oh yeah but on the topic him, he's not going to be around in the modern day unless they freeze him or he goes into a time prison or something. Yeah, exactly. And he's talked about, I think he's mentioned how he's not going to be in the modern films or he's not going to turn up as Steve Trevor's great-grandson.

So I'd imagine that he dies. You know what, comic book world doesn't rule out anything, does it? No, it doesn't. Anybody can come back at any time for any reason. But I'd imagine that the reason she's not around for 100 years after this before Batman Superman is something bad probably happens to him. Sure, right. And then she's like, oh, no.

Yep. All the wonder I've had is gone. It's all out of me. Yeah. Anyway, anything else? Probably he gets caught in that gas and his head bursts. I'd imagine that. And it's just real graphic and it takes about four minutes on screen.

Oh, good stuff. I like Chris Pine, man. Me too. Does anything else happen in this trailer? When's she getting invisible yet? Well, that's a good question. I think if they do do the bit... Also, can she fly or not?

Good question. Because when she's flying in that trailer, she's also on a floating platform. So it could be one of those things she's stuck in some kind of power vortex and everything's floating and there's lightning. Look, fingers crossed we get another blue light shooting into the sky. That's all I want, okay? Oh, good stuff.

I've been thinking about doing a video. I guess if I throw this out there, someone else will probably steal it, of like top five best or top ten best blue light shooting up into the sky. You will never hear the end of it if you only do a top five. Yeah. Because there's so many. I reckon I could do it. But how quickly do you think the joke would run thin if I made a top ten?

I guess it all depends on the reaction shots of the people in the movie. Sure. You know what I mean? All right. Yeah. I'll think about it. Start with Keanu Reeves and work your way up. Okay.

Yeah. Anything else? What else happened in the trailer? That's about it, right? That's about it. Yeah with Keanu Reeves and work your way up. Okay, yeah. Anything else? What else happened in the trailer? That's about it, right? That's about it. Yeah, looking forward to it, man. Yep. Looking bloody forward to it.

What's next? We've got to talk about Doctor Strange. Okay. Can I take the lead on this one? Of course you can. This movie was fine. Good night, everybody. We're done.

See you next week. Okay. It's fine. I thought you would have liked it a little bit more. I did. Look, I enjoyed it. Yeah. There was some great, there was some genuinely great effects.

Yeah. I didn't love the being hurled through. Look, I wasn't as entranced by this being hurled through multiple dimensions kind of thing. A lot of people are blown away and be like, oh my God, he looked at his hand and then his hand grew some more hands and they grew some more. I don't care. But I saw that. Take your bloody first acid trip dreams and bloody get them out of here. I don't care for any of that.

You know what, though? I saw the IMAX preview and then I saw it on a regular screen. And it wasn't good. And that was not as... And it still looked great, but that was not as impressive. Okay. When it takes up your entire vision, it's very different. Okay.

Yeah, it's a very different experience. All right. Yeah. But now I can understand why you'd takes up your entire vision it's very different okay it's a very different experience yeah but i can understand why you'd be like yeah it's okay look there's some some of it's uh you know that that's pretty good um uh acting was good love acting yeah acting was good cumberbatch cumberbatch gives us some some explosive like he's got some explosive dramatizing that doesn't make me laugh. Well, he's a good actor. He's a good actor.

Taylor Swinton's good in it. Rachel Adams, McAdams is good for the five minutes she's in it. Yeah. Yeah. And like, and some of the action looks pretty good and kind of creative, but you know what?

A lot of the other stuff just didn't feel that it didn't feel magic-y to me. Right. Like there wasn't enough to it. Okay. It didn't feel like sorcery to me. Right. Like there wasn't enough to it. Okay. It didn't feel like sorcerers doing magic. Sorcery. It just, yeah, we'll get to it. We'll talk about it.

Okay. Yeah. You kind of covered it all. Yeah, I know, right? Good night, everybody. Double good night, everyone. Well, look, we'll talk box office just quickly, Mason. Okay, great.

It looks like it's going to make 84 million US opening, and that's ahead of Ant-Man and the first Avenger and Thor. Okay. Those are good numbers. They're predicting 70, 75, and so it's a little bit above. It's their first dalliance. Is that the right word? I guess.

It depends what you're going to say. Magic. Into the world of magic and sorcery. But I have one question for you, Mason. Okay. What do you think the story was? Oh, no. You've done it again. You've got me at my most vulnerable. but I have one question for you Mason what do you think the story was? oh no you've done it again

you've got me at my most vulnerable so let me think Iron Man except it's magic see there we go it's a perfectly good phase one Marvel origin movie it's probably not the best one the best one is still Iron Man

I like First Avenger quite a lot. Iron Man and First Avenger both fall apart in The Last Axe. Not fall apart. It's fine. I shouldn't say that. But it's got a lot of the same pros and cons as Iron Man 1. It's got a villain that's kind of weak. I thought Jeff Bridges was good.

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And then he, maybe he learns a lesson about it. Maybe he doesn't. He does. He does. His costume also doesn't look as dumb as you'd think. Right. Great.

Yeah. Okay. So that's interesting. I see what you're saying. Cause that's, I don't disagree with any of that because I liked the characters. I enjoyed the performances. I liked the special effects. I thought it was

everybody was very charming and charismatic and it looked spectacular but it is under all of that it is a very standard origin story yes

but there was enough of everything else especially the performances and especially Benedict Cumberbatch that kind of raised it above just a standard

bulk standard origin movie okay yeah look I know opinions of this have been very mixed. I know people were like, this is the most spectacular Marvel movie there's ever been.

And some people were like, this is okay. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Some people like, yeah, this is okay for me.

Look, if we're talking about Iron Man one and we're going to, yeah, we can't stop talking about Iron Man one, but like, I've never claimed to be the biggest Dr. Strange fan. That's not true.

Episode 73 minute foot. No, but I, but I do, not true. Episode 73, minute foot. No, I don't know. But I do, I have been the world's biggest Iron Man fan. Yes. And when Iron Man came to screen,

they changed the time and place of his origin. They changed some of the relationships that he has with the characters. Changed his facial hair. Changed his facial hair.

Changed his attitude. Yep. The comic version of Iron Man now is kind of a Robert Downey Jr. style smug asshole, and he wasn't originally. He was, but he was more, there was more, I've got, here's my duty to America,

and here's, you know, I just want to make the better place, or whatever. Well, the better place, whatever. But, you know, they changed elements to it, but what they didn't change is he was a guy in a red and gold armored suit that shot heaps of cool weapons and flew about like if they if i went to that movie they're like you know what red and gold doesn't work we'll make it blue and also i didn't we don't

want him to fly so we'll give him a motorcycle i'd be like there's some weird weird changes like when i think when i think dr strange in a magical battle with another sorcerer, I think the bloody bolts of bedevilment and I think of the crimson bands of sight. The winds of Watoom. Winds of Watoom. And I think like fireballs and lightning bolts and illusions and monsters being conjured up out of little circles and bloody inanimate objects being turned into snakes.

Sure. That's what I want. Nothing turned into objects being turned into snakes. That's what I want. Nothing turned into a snake in this movie. That's true. Nothing did turn into a snake out of 10. Yeah. But I think that's, I I'm, I'm fairly certain they did that for a reason.

They gave him like three things. Yes. And, but I also, there were certain scenes where that worked to the movie's advantage. Yeah. All right. And what I'm talking about is there's a bit where he,

he gets in a brawl in the sanctum sanctorum. Yes. And he doesn't, he can't do advantage. Yeah, all right. And what I'm talking about is there's a bit where he gets in a brawl in the Sanctum Sanctorum. Yes. And he doesn't, he can't do anything. Yeah. And they're just hammering him and he's running and he's got one thing. And I thought that was really interesting that he's not quite at that level and he's still surviving. No, no, I see.

There's a level of tension there. I guess the idea, like, I understand that he's not the Sorcerer Supreme in this movie. Yeah. But he can't call upon all these amazing powers that the version in the comic books does. But I feel like there was not even any inkling that anybody in this universe, on any level,

in any place in the world, could do any of these things. Like, the movies... You go to the library in this movie, and it contains... There's these hundreds of books of all these different spells gathered from all corners of the world and all times and all places. But everybody's got the same cookie-cutter powers. Everybody is essentially just...

Got a stick. Everybody's got a stick and everybody's doing Tai Chi, but they've got handfuls of big orange sparklers. That's everybody in this movie. The good guys have fistfuls of orange sparklers and the everybody in this movie or like a the bad the good guys have fistfuls of orange sparklers and the bad guys have ghost knives that's it give me something like it doesn't i they're just they're it's they're no different from anybody else in the marvel universe they've got they're harnessing some energy from somewhere yeah they're turning it

into a vague thing right like and when I was coming out of this movie, my first thought was, and we'll get to why in spoilers, my first thought was, I don't think Doctor Strange would pass an Avengers audition. Like, he'd come in the room. What, he couldn't beat Hawkeye? No, well, the Vision had come in the room, and the Vision would be wearing his sweater vest,

and he'd have a clipboard. And he'd be like, so, Doctor Strange, what can you do? And Doctor Strange is like, I can make shields. And Vision's like, oh, indestructible shields? And Strange would be like, no, no, they're very destructible. One hit and they're gone. And Vision would be like, we kind of already have an indestructible shield, guys, so can you do anything else? And he'd be like, I've got an incorporeal astral form.

And the Vision would be like, oh, good. Very good. Very good, isn't it? How good is it when the bad guys just can't touch you? Isn't that great? And he's like, well, I mean, potentially they could find my lifeless still body on the ground a couple of feet away. But it's fun to walk through walls, isn't it? And then Vision would be like, um.

We have a guy who walks through walls. It's me. It's me. Can you do anything else? And Strange is like, um... We have a guy who walks through walls? It's me? It's me. Can you do anything else? And Strange is like, I know Kung Fu. And then the Vision will be like, we all bloody know Kung Fu. The other day, we all did Kung Fu on each other so hard we blew up an airport.

You're not impressing me, mate. I've tried to be nice. But what I'm like, he's just... All he's got, they've all just got three powers fair enough then there's no nobody stood out as like yeah and i think i'm it because if you don't know any of the backstory of these characters and you go okay well in the marvel universe wizards channel energy and they make geometric shapes in the air and then they throw them at each other yeah you'd be like oh this is kind of cool and fun yeah but i thought give me something else

and i can understand that but i think the reason they did that because they didn't want to go just like they didn't want to jump straight into the avengers or iron man has 80 suits yep because when they got to that they fucked it up but yeah it's not you know there i think they're like this is entry-level stuff yeah and this is the introduction of magic and so let's give them three things instead of doing i get that no i get that but also but i don't understand why they couldn't show someone else right give me give me show the go to have the ancient one go look you can turn a thing into snakes you can do this you can do that yeah and then she dies before she can turn more things to snakes turn more things to snakes and before she can show dr strange how to do those things yeah

i want to know those powers are out there what are all the books for yeah you can't read them you're not allowed you're not allowed to read them it's banned sparklers

it's just different shapes of sparklers I don't I don't disagree with any of that okay thank you no I and again I'm

I think I'm I'm probably unnecessarily nitpicking again as someone who has read you know Doctor Strange I've read I've read Doctor Strange as a backup character on. Again, as someone who has read Doctor Strange, I've read Doctor Strange as a backup character on a lot of things. There's some good Doctor Strange stories,

but I've never read a regular book with him in them. So maybe I'm nitpicking. But if you're going to bring in magic, don't bring in energy manipulation. No, you're right. From the Doctor Strange that I've read, there is normally a lot more going on. Yeah. Did you like how they had a tussle in the astral dimension? Sure. It's fine. It's all right. It's fine. It reminded it reminded me of the frightness you ever seen the fright yeah of course michael j fox the great man yeah uh you know i i did enjoy this i enjoy i

can't talk about this in spoilers mordo's character arc i think is a little bit more fleshed out than is in the comics yep we'll get we'll get to it later now the ancient one uh was cast as a white woman as opposed to being a tibetan man i just want to quickly talk about that okay great there was some controversy in terms of is this whitewashing and whatnot now the their reasons for it is because it isn't end of story no it is go ahead no it is but at the same time in the comics the ancient one is this fu manchu asian stereotype do you know what i mean Yeah. And can you put that guy in and it not be really weird or out of place

or offensive or whatever? And the other reason was because he's Tibetan and this movie will be released in China. Oh, yeah, that's right. And so there was that element of it as well. Now, I understand the anger that stems from they haven't cast an Asian person in the role. But that being said,

when you look at the rest of the cast, it's pretty bloody diverse. So I think as a way to kind of combat that, or maybe it was, maybe even not, but I think on the whole, I understand why they did it. I can understand why people would be upset, but I really don't think it's necessarily that big a deal that we didn't get a Fu Manchu Asian stereotype.

You know what I mean? Yeah, no, I agree. Yeah. And also maybe it won't be that important in subsequent movies.'s to say that's right yeah uh wong i enjoyed love him great now he's also benedict he's not benedict cumberbatch he's benedict wong huh that's his real name perfect i think so yeah he's in sunshine actually you ever seen it it's really good i've seen so god i've seen is he in the last episode of this current season of Black Mirror? He is, yeah. The bees one. Yeah, yeah.

He is. Did you think there was a lot of exposition of people explaining things and did that bother you? Be like, this is this and just use this to get through a sling ring to get to another dimension or whatever and don't worry about it. I didn't hate it. We needed that. Mirror world. You know what?

I was a little bit disappointed and I didn't say this in my review because the 15 minutes I saw was just incredibly trippy and it was mostly the stuff of him tumbling through the dimension and hands growing fingers and whatever but they didn't really return to that that much there's a little bit at the end yeah and there's a really cool chase sequence through the city where everything's mirrored and buildings are falling in on themselves or whatever but they don't there's not as much trippy stuff as I would have liked or thought there would have been in it. Yeah.

And I'm sure you agree with me. Yeah. And also, we were talking about the characters have three powers in this movie. That's true. One of those powers solely exists as a conceit for something to happen later in the movie. Which power? The mirror dimension.

Right, okay, sure. And that kind of, I don't think they needed that to exist. I think they could have just done the thing they were going to do, which we'll talk about in spoilers, and it would have been fine. Yeah. In fact, creating this mirror dimension conceit sort of takes a lot of the drama out of it. Right, right, yeah.

That's what we'll talk about it. Yeah, absolutely. I've just got written here as well enough magic question mark he did three things which is exactly what the answer is no again yeah fair enough no okay what about this did you think a good did a good job of expanding the the world into magic in terms of setting things up for the future not necessarily for this movie but just being hey audience, be aware that this is a whole aspect of this universe you've never seen. Yeah, you know what, it probably did. Right.

Because we, I mean, we didn't get a lot of cool magical spells. Right. Maybe we can expand on that. Maybe, you know what, it's something that's fixable. Like at the end of, you know, in his next appearance or maybe the next Doctor Strange movie, he could just be like, you know, the books that only the ancient one could read, hey, everybody can read them.

Now we can all turn things into snakes. That would fix it. That would be pretty great. But also, and we've got, you know, we've got all this knowledge that is there. We've got doorways to other parts of the world that are, you know, inexplicable transport systems. Sure.

And we get, yeah, artifacts, relics. We get all that sort of stuff. So that's fun. Speaking of, yeah, I did an Easter egg video, Mason. I don't know if you've seen it. You haven't because I haven't put it out yet. But by the time this comes out, it will be out. And you would have watched it three to four times,

I'd imagine at least. Could you support my work? Is it going to be 10 minutes long? It might end up being, I would say so, yeah. It has to be. There's a lot, Mason. Yeah, all right. I get it.

But there is a lot of magical spells and things that are just hinted at and characters that can do certain things that there are nods towards it, but you don't explicitly say a lot of that. So if you want to, I'll link it below if anybody's interested, especially you Mason. I know you are.

You'll listen to this and then you'll go and watch that. Was it funny enough for you or was it too funny? Did they nail the humor? Cause sometimes the balance in these Marvel, I thought civil war, perfect balance of humour, but what did you think about this? I think some of this stuff fell flat.

Yeah, I'd agree with that. I think in the trailer, there's the Who's On First scenario where Strange and Kaecilius have a fun little misunderstanding about Strange's name. Yeah. And it's funnier in the trailer than it is in the movie. Maybe it's cut better in the trailer. It's cut better in the trailer. It's cut better in the trailer.

There's some dead air in the actual movie version, which I understand because if it all of a sudden became trailer-paced in that one second, it'd be weird. Yeah, yeah. The movie has kind of a slower pace all up. Sure. But I thought it was weird. It's funnier in the trailer.

Yeah. One bit I thought was funny and they didn't really expand on it and they quickly kind of cut. Because I thought strange was really good at kind of insulting people that's one you bobble-headed booby bit of that bit of lost in space style but he'd do like he does simmering anger and resentment really well yep and maybe that's a lot of doing sherlock and practicing it yeah but there's a bit where Kaecilius is trying to explain to him that he's being fooled and why don't you join my side?

And Strange is like, what are you talking about? Look at your face. Look what you've done to yourself. But then it just kind of goes. And I was like, that's great. I would have liked to have seen an elaboration on that.

It's kind of a quick kind of throwaway line. But no, I thought there were some decent jokes. I thought there were some decent gags. There were some gags that didn't quite land for me. There was one where- The Beyonce one? Yeah, there's one. He meets Wong.

Yeah. The one named Wong. Yeah. And he's like, oh, like Beyonce, like Drake, like kind of. And also I'm like, would this character know who any of those musical artists are? Apparently so, Madison. Or maybe he then downloaded- Because there's a scene right at the start where he's doing surgery.

Yes. And one of the other doctors is playing obscure music to like obscure music from the 60s and 70s or whatever and he's like i know that no he's intelligent because he knows a lot about music yeah yeah yeah no i don't think it always landed but i think it was funny enough yeah i thought there was some there was some solid jokes and i also enjoyed the way that he cut everybody out of his life after the accident and rachel mccadam's character was the only one that kind of stuck with him and then he just torched that bridge i really enjoyed that because i felt like that's the kind of guy who's got that

kind of hubris and he doesn't want even though she's not pitying him she wants to genuinely help him but he can't see that yeah i thought that aspect of it was really and he's sort of good he and you know he's in he's in the car accident that tears up his hands and he is resentful of everyone around him for not being as good as him. Yes. Because there is a line in it where he says, they say no one could have fixed this. And he's like, I could have fixed this.

And so he hates everybody for not being as talented and as hardworking as him. It's pretty fun. Yeah. That's what Russell Crowe thinks of other actors. Right? Yeah. Spoilers? Yeah. Okay. Let's do it. You, that's what Russell Crowe thinks of other actors. Right? Yeah. Spoilers?

Yeah, okay. Let's do it. You know what? I'm going to give this best movie ever. Yeah, me too. My aforementioned unhappiness with the level of magic, but that is fixable. Yes.

In the extended cut. Oh, no. No, I mean in future movies. This one's done. I'm not coming back to it. Sure. Yeah. Pretty good.

And you know what? The action sequence right at the end, the one we see in the trailers with all the... That's not a spoiler. We know it's the one happening at the end where the whole universe is... The whole city is turning in bloody... It's chaos, mate.

It's chaos, mate. That's pretty good. That's solid. It looks good. I like that final showdown. Yeah. What do you reckon? Best movie ever? Yeah, mate. It's chaos, mate. That's pretty good. That's solid. It looks good. I like that final showdown. Yeah. What do you reckon? Best movie ever?

Yeah, definitely. How many turning things into snakes out of five would you give this? One turning things into snakes out of five. I'm going to give it a two because they did open up the world. But they could have been, I agree, they could have been more turning things into snakes. Thank you. Like you go to drink from a cup and then you look down and it's a snake.

A snake, yeah. And then, okay, see, this is like that's just one tiny aspect of what we could do. And then you look up and the whole building's a snake. You know? That would be a five out of five. That guy's secretary's a snake. Love it. All right, spoilers.

The time gem is in this. Yes, it is. Nearly completing Thanos' Infinity Gauntlet. There's one left. I can't remember which one. It's in my Easter egg video. Oh, it's friendship. Yeah.

The last gem is friendship. I want to say soul? Or is that the vision? No, soul. Wait. No, the vision has mind. I think it's soul. Vision has the mind gem.

So soul is left. Look, here's the problem with this. Yeah. Is that the infinityems are supposed to be I mean, this is the climax of the movie so we couldn't really talk about it pre-spoilers The climax of this The point of the Infinity Gems is

one person cannot possibly handle all the power of the gem which is why one of them In Guardians of the Galaxy it goes to the Nova Corps and they put it away so nobody can get to it. And the Tesseract is taken to Asgard and the mind gem is installed into bloody the vision so no humans can get to it. This one, one man uses the time gem repeatedly for several functions without any consequences.

But I think that's like the ancient one says, that's like a keyhole perspective on what it can do. It's in a thing. Right. You know what I mean? So it's like how you can hold the Tesseract if it's in a thing. Sure, yeah. It's in a thing, is my point.

But my point is that the whole crux of the end of the movie is he saves the day by reversing time and unkilling a whole bunch of people that were killed when the sanctum in Hong Kong was destroyed. Yep. Like, you know, I like the idea that he is, and it's good that he is willing to sacrifice. You know, he learns humility, much like Iron Man did in the first one. And he's willing to kill himself or sacrifice himself to stop the ultimate bad guy, just like Iron Man did. Did he? Yes.

And so he's entirely willing to spend eternity in this loop forever if it means that the world will be saved. And that's fine because in order to use the device, he has to make a sacrifice. Right. You know what I mean? But in putting back the sanctum, there's no downside to it.

He doesn't sacrifice anything. He just puts it on and he waves his hands and then all the people who died are alive again and it all gets put into place. Sure. And there's no consequences.

There's no sacrifice on his part. It doesn't, he doesn't have to expend any energy. Yeah. And he's saved everyone. As far as we know, there's no consequences. Well well but there isn't though yeah but yet but that was mordo's point was like you've saved the universe haven't you right but what but we don't we don't fuck with this stuff and you have yeah and that's not cool yeah but it's but that's the thing like you know

he saves wong for example who's killed by, you know, crushed bit of cement or whatever. I want to see Wong. I'm happy he's alive. But I mean, yeah, but I mean, Wong's back and Wong's an established character in the Doctor Strange universe. Yeah. So it's not like things are going to snap back and Wong's going to be dead again. Right.

So he's saved all these people and there's no consequences. So why can't he just go around the world reversing natural disasters? Because you can't like fracture time again and again, I assume. He probably shouldn't have done this. Yeah, I don't know. I feel... They flipped out when he made that apple go back. Right.

That was a great effect. Pretty good. Yeah. All I'm saying is I don't think... They've not given him enough consequences. Yeah, fair enough. There was not even an inkling that in doing this, and Mordo said it, but there should have been.

If that's the case, you've got to give me a little scene where somebody who was resurrected by this reverse time turns into a snake. You know what I mean? And then you're like, oh, no, everybody who came back from that is a snake now. As far as we can tell in this, he's now got an unstoppable weapon that he can use to reverse all the...

Oh, you know, one of the good guys got killed, bring him back. And the only issue is, is he wearing the eye bag of Mordo or not? And if he isn't, he can just go back and get it because it reverses time. So he can... It doesn't matter.

There's no constraints. Yeah, that's a good point. I can't argue with any of that. I guess, I think the consequence will be Mordo showing up in a sequel. Oh, sure, right. But you know, I enjoyed Mordo's character arc because in the comics, he's just,

he's after power and he's out for his own personal gain and to grow as a sorcerer and whatever. This, he was very much about the greater good and following the ancient one and believing her teachings. But then when he realized that there was a gray area in her teachings and her practices, he couldn't handle it. Yes. Like Strange saw it as this is a means to an end. Sometimes things aren't black or white.

Sometimes you have to bend the rules. She needs this power from the dark dimension to stop everyone else from the dark dimension. Yes, exactly. And ultimately it's resulted in her undoing yeah but it like you know she's been around for a thousand years saving the world so that's fine that's right exactly but he obviously can't see that and as a result everything he's ever seen is a lie and whatever whatever so i enjoyed that aspect of it and i i think that that will i think they've set up a really good future villain in that respect.

Yeah. What do you think of Dormammu? Yeah, it's kind of shit. No, no, no. That's not true. I liked that sequence. I liked how he kept dying again and again. And I liked how he had him at an impasse.

And he brought time into his dimension. I thought that was actually kind of clever. I don't think it's shit. I'll take that back. The big face is kind of dumb right there's a reason for it because dormammu bigger is better bigger is better but dormammu exists in this dimension where he doesn't need a physical form yes he is the dimension he's everything in there he has control over everything strange comes in and he has no way to communicate with people yeah so he's that's actually benedict cumberbatch in motion capture that's his face yeah so that's door mamu taking on his appearance to converse with him i thought it could have been i thought that sequence could have been it could it could have been shown

to be longer yeah i would have liked if it was like i did that for a thousand years yeah exactly yeah i would have liked that because it it this version felt to me like, you know, remember in the Jetsons, how George Jetson, he's in the future and his whole job is to push a button. Yes. But he has no concept of what work is. So every day he's like, oh, this is so awful.

Like click. So Doctor Strange has gone into this dimension and Dormammu, who has no concept of time, has been forced to replay these moments 10 times and he's like, oh no, time. This time this is the worst oh will this torture never end it's been 11 minutes like you have no way like yeah i think it could have absolutely couldn't handle it i think there might have i would appreciate a throwaway line where he comes out and they've been like where were you and he's like i've been in there for 10 000 years yeah and then that would have been because he would have had a lot of time to contemplate things and he might have come out

older and wiser yeah more grainy temples grainy temples but not really because of time what do you think of the cape it's great it was fun right yeah the cloak of levitation yeah really really cool yeah i like how everybody kind of has a talisman yeah we want to call it most of them just have sticks but he gets a cape. Or ghost knives. Or ghost knives. Or sparkles. Or sparkles. Yeah, but you know, what's his name?

Mordo says everybody kind of gets a weapon that calls to them. Yep. And Strange seems to just have all of them. Right, sure. All of the ones that are available. Yeah, yeah. No, I like the cloak. It's a little bit different.

It's more Aladdin's magic carpet than it is in the comics. It's more kind of spawnish in the comics that it can grow and do all sorts of stuff. It looked good though. It's good to see a cape in a Marvel movie that's a primo cape. The Vision's cape doesn't really grab me. No. Because it's always straight up and down. Yeah, but that's also not fabric.

That's some weird holographic. Sure, right, yeah. I don't know. Adamantium, whatever it is. Because he's Vibranium. He's a Vibranium man. So i don't know adamantium whatever it is because he's vibranium yep he's a vibranium man uh-huh yeah so i don't know what that is it's an it's otherworldly you think the cape would be otherworldly but it just looks like felt or something like that's like felt velvet i should say did so you you do you like the twist that the ancient one was drawing power

from the dark dimension and did you think she was doing that to be around until Strange showed up or to keep things at bay? Probably that. A bit of both. Because she obviously knew he was coming, but she just didn't know which way it was going to go. I had one more question for you. A couple more.

Post-credits. We have Thor having a bloody bevy, mate. Now, is that new footage or is that footage from Thor Ragnarok? That was shot by Taker Watiti. But I don't know if it's going to actually be in Thor. I think Strange is going to show up because there's on set photos of Thor and he's got Strange's address. So he's going to go to the gym.

Yeah, that's true. I think it might be a case of Thor is depowered or he needs to get somewhere and the normal means of transport for him has been cut off. So he needs Strange to open one of those doors in his sanctum and be like, yeah, go through there. There you go. There you go. Get out of here.

I like that Strange now is like, well, this is my responsibility to make sure these guys don't ruin everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All magical threats and whatnot. Now, last post-credits is Mordo's not happy that there's so many magicians. So he finds Benjamin Bratt and he takes his power away. Yeah.

I did not expect Benjamin Bratt in this. Neither did I. He hasn't been in a superhero movie since Catwoman. That's right, yeah. He's back. You know, he's back

and he is mad about being dunked on. Wouldn't we all be? Yeah, that's right. By Catwoman, yeah. The ultimate insult. That's the ultimate diss, man. Yeah. that's right, by Catwoman, yeah. The ultimate insult. That's the ultimate diss, man. Yeah. He's spent 20 years on that.

Spent 20 years in that b-ball court. So in the timeline of this, did it make sense to you in terms of when this started or when it ended? Because I think I've figured it out. Well, it started immediately post-Civil War. Civil War. Well, okay, it started immediately post-Civil War if you assume that the phone call he gets in his sweet Lamborghini is referring to Rhodes in Civil War.

If you look, just check out my Easter egg video, Mason. I don't think that's the case. Do you think it's referring to the scene in Iron Man 2? I also don't think it's that. Really? My initial thought before I went, oh, obviously it's Rhodey in Civil War. I assumed it was in Iron Man 2

when we see the footage of the Justin Hammer suit that twists in half and breaks the guy's spine. I put that in my Easter egg. Who do you think it is then? I don't think it's anybody. And they've actually come out and said that because at the start of this movie- Also that it says Rhodey's 35 or 36.

So he's not 36. He's 46. He's nearly 50, I think. But I think at the start you see the Avengers Tower, which means this movie takes place in at least 2012, which is after Iron Man 2. Okay, yeah. Which also means that it –

and I also don't think enough time has passed. He couldn't learn those three powers between civil war and now yes that's true when he comes back and sees uh rachel mcadams's character he doesn't come back and been like man i've been gone for two months yeah it's it's you get the indication that's been three four years yeah and i assumed that so it's like maybe 2012 2013 up to 2016 so it starts around avengers time time and finishes after Civil War. So it's just somebody in an experimental Iron Man style suit. Apparently, yeah.

Yeah. And the other one they mentioned. Yeah. Okay. It could be anyone. It could be all of the Iron Man. It could be Firepower, which is the government's Iron Man suit. The government's Iron Man.

Sure. It could be the president. It could be the president in that suit. They just gave him the Iron Patriot and they're like, whatever you do, Mr. President, do the president in that suit they just gave him the iron patriot and they're like whatever you do mr president do not get in that he's like oh i gotta take the kids to school and i've gotta oh the first lady's out i gotta let him do the grocery shopping i know i'll get in the iron patriot suit snap oh they'd say the president though wouldn't they they would wouldn't they yeah and the other one is they mentioned a 22 yearyear-old schizophrenic who's got a chip in her head that gets hit by lightning. That's nobody.

I looked into it. Yeah, that can't be, yeah. But it might be Captain Marvel, new Captain Marvel. Yeah, we don't know what her movie origin is yet. Yeah, sorry, but that's speculation. It could be, yeah, no, that, I mean, it could be, I actually don't know what her current origin is in the comic books. I don't either, yeah.

But it could be, because like she was, at one point her powers were the result of meddling by the Kree, the alien Kree. So maybe they put the chip in her head. Right, right. And she gets herself struck by lightning to get it out. Do they have the Kree? I've got no idea. Yeah, no, because they've got Ronan the Accuser.

Okay, sure. Yeah, right. They do. Yeah, good point. Good point. I forget who's got what sometimes. Is that it? That's it, I think.

Then we've got to do the, like, all in all, would you recommend this? Yeah, I still kind of would. Yeah. I think, Mason, next week, if you come back, you're welcome anytime. I am the carryover champion of this podcast. There's been six comic book movies this year, and maybe we rank them next week. Okay, great. Oh, definitive rankings. I love it. Definitive rankings, mate. Yeah year and maybe we rank them next week. Okay, great. Yeah.

Oh, definitive rankings. I love it. Definitive rankings, mate. Yeah. So tune in for that next week. You know what it's time for? Oh, our famous segment, What We Read In. What We Gonna Read.

I'm doing the thing. What are we reading today? Mason, I got so many. Before we get to what we read and what we're going to read, we've got some viewer reviews just quickly on Twitter. View reviews. View reviews. It's from Chris White.

Disappointed with Doctor Strange. No need for an origin story. Could have started with him more established and had flashbacks, in my honest opinion. That could be true, yeah. This is from Batekin Blog. Just watched Doctor Strange, and I have to say it was very refreshing. The visuals and acting were excellent.

A few similarities between Stark and Strange. The humour is unique either way, and they both have the best... And they both have perks. Best movie ever. And Ashley Davis says, Doctor Strange in IMAX 3D is wonderfully insane. You will get motion sickness. 10 out of 10.

Would get nausea again. Cool. There you go. Nice. Well, he or she didn't rate it out of snakes, though, so I don't know. Then who knows what it's... Yeah, that's right. Okay.

What are you reading? This week I started reading the new season, so issues 9 and 10 of Jughead. So Chip Zdarsky was on the previous run. Yeah, yeah. On Sex Criminals. Sex Criminals fame. Howl of the Duck.

This is Ryan North and Derek Charm. Yeah. Charm. And it's sort of the rebooted Archie universe, Jughead universe. It's really funny. Okay, cool. Because I'm a big fan of Chip Zdarsky as a writer and comedy-wise. Sure.

And this is real good. So Jughead falls in love with the woman who's dressed as a giant burger, promoting burgers outside the malt shop. And then he goes on a date with her, like a blind date, only to discover she is in fact Sabrina the Teenage Witch. So it's pretty, it's real good.

She's really a giant burger. She's not really a giant burger, but she could be because Sabrina the Teenage Witch, surprise, surprise, is magic. I also got recommended a, I haven't read it yet, but it's here. It's ready to go. It's an IDW comic book called The Electric Sublime.

Okay. Which is, let's see... When a mysterious change in the composition of a famous painting begins poisoning the minds of its spectators, Margot Breslin, director of the Bureau of Artistic Integrity, must pull famed art detective Arthur Brute out of a mental institution and back into the insanity that sent him there in the first place. So I don't know what it's about.

That's very intriguing. It looks crazy. The art looks amazing. So I'm on board with that, whatever it turns out to be. But apparently that's a great first issue. Fan-bloody-tastic, mate. I've been reading Alien Defiance, which was brought up on the podcast you were on. Yes, that's a great first issue so fan bloody tastic man i'm uh i've been reading alien defiance which was brought up on the podcast you were on yes that's right uh so there's i think there's one

issue left and it's basically it's basically it's it's it's the alien story of or aliens where there's a whole bunch of aliens and the government are trying to get them and whatever i've read a lot or a few of the alien stories and mostly they're just retreads of aliens and there's too many Marines and whatever. And you played that Alien game, which is essentially Alien except you're Ripley's daughter. Yes, I did. I played about an hour of that until they wouldn't let me have the gun

when I wanted the gun, so I never picked it up again. The gun was right there on the floor. Why couldn't you pick the gun up? Give me the gun. Give me the gun. Exactly. But it's great. It's really fantastic i love the the the

twist on uh on the synthetics that they've got in there it's a different perspective if i was to ever write an alien comic mason and i wouldn't because i would not be asked and i cannot write but if i was yeah don't you think it would be a cool twist if it's a synthesoid person but it turns out that they're human instead of vice versa. Oh, twist. Yeah, maybe. That'd be great. Yeah. Anyway.

I also read the Mockingbird trade paperback, I can explain, which is- You talked about that last week. Yeah, it was really good. It wasn't as good as you thought. Really fun. Real good. Clever. Very good.

Good action. It's good. Bloody good stuff. And you love her in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Or that spinoff movie they didn't make. I don't remember any of her appearances. It was in season two or three. I did not watch any of that.

Yeah, man. Yeah, man. Good stuff. Also, Mason, I'm going to recommend a podcast as well, which we're big fans of. Oh, yeah, absolutely, yeah. It's called Filthy Casuals. And if you like video games,

but you hate people who play every video game and know a lot about video games, you know what? Okay, you know what? I'll equate it to the way that we like movies and comics but we just we kind of like it but they're pretty great but we don't know everything about them and we're just a couple of regular dudes we're just like you that's right uh it's that with video games great it's got three of your good friends do you want to name them uh ben vernell tommy dasolo do you want to name them? Ben Bunnell, Tommy Dasolo, Adam Knox. Do you want to name them in the order you like them

and you have? Very good. Perfect. And you know what I might do? I'm going to put in a clip from the show. Maybe you can do that every now and then of a podcast that we like. Yeah.

I'm going to put that in now. You're welcome to skip ahead, but you shouldn't. Absolutely give it a listen. I'll link it below. But it's very funny. Yeah. And the one episode that I really enjoyed, and maybe I'll use this clip.

Well, first of all, the one you were on was great, Mason. Well done. Thank you. But you're not using the bit that is widely regarded as the worst segment that's ever been on that show where we listened, we watched a Call of Duty trailer in total silence for three minutes. I don't know if you remember.

Waiting for ground control to Major Tom to kick in. Yeah, I remember. No, but they did an episode on the 50 best video games of all time as ranked by Time Magazine. And it is a shit show, that list. Right. And it's a great episode. So I'd recommend that one.

So I'll chuck in a clip of that. Yeah, so we're thinking that we would like to promote some maybe Australian podcasts that maybe we like a lot. A lot of the stuff I've been guesting on are shows that I really like and I listen to every week. But maybe they don't get the number of listens that they maybe should. I think people

should check them out. Don't just go through the episodes that we've been on. Just check out the whole bloody lot. And anyway, Filthy Casual is one of those. Check it out, please, if you would. Halo Combat Evolved is at number 25. That's still a really good game to play even today. Is that Halo 1?

That's Halo 1, yeah. I remember that being, and kind of the game that put the Xbox on the map. Yeah. It was a huge deal. Without that, there wouldn't be Xboxes today, probably. So you can't, yeah, again, I've never played it, but I believe you. It's still fun to play. In spite of myself, I'm going to take you at your word here.

And it's still a good game today. You could play through that today and still have a good time. Yeah, I agree. I played... There was one where I didn't have an Xbox, but I would go to friends' houses and play it at parties and stuff. And it's either that or three, which is still the best Halo games. Halo 5 was kind of disappointing.

Number 23 is pretty weird. Microsoft Flight Simulator either that or three, which is still the best Halo games. Halo 5 was kind of disappointing. Number 23 is pretty weird. Microsoft Flight Simulator either X or 10. That's a weird, very weird inclusion. I don't think there's a huge amount of people who are going to say, yeah, I like Microsoft Flight Simulator more than fucking Final Fantasy 7 or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. But for a certain sect of people, that is probably their favourite game of all time.

Sure. Again, hey, the dad market. Totally. Flight simulator. Dad loves to fly. Flight sim and Myst, that's a dad combo. Probably I could fly away from this place. That's my dad.

He hates living with us. I thought he was English. Yeah, yeah, but he talks like that when he's drunk. 22. I don't think we have anything to say about flight simulator. No, we, but he talks like that when he's drunk. 22. I don't think we have anything to say about flights. No, we already said too much. Yes.

22, GoldenEye007. What a great clip that I put in there, Mason. Right? You know, and that's time for now, though. What's the time for now? It's you.

You do it. The classic one was Letters, oh letters We love you Some letters They're only A take my way. I know they're here right now. We're going to do letters.

Good work, Mason. Thank you. If you want to get a letter to the show, you can, but you have to do it as a tweet. Yep, definitely not a letter. Don't write anything down. Hashtag weeklyplanetpod on Twitter, and we will go through them and find three to seven,

usually closer to three. It's always three. three it's never seven it's never been seven matthew onestro says is it more likely that we'll get a dc and marvel crossover cartoon than a live action movie yes hashtag weekly planet just like that huh uh-huh yeah so do you think they'd go so we've had amalgam comics yes we have it's kind of fallen by the wayside recently i think that's to do with cinematically as well that there is now that divide yeah look i think when when i was a young lad marvel and dc always had kind of a friendly rivalry and that was sort of reflected in the audience as well yes like you know you were like i'm a marvel fanboy, I'm a DC fanboy or whatever. But it was always like, no, but the other guys are good too,

kind of thing. Sure. But now it's sort of, it's bloodshed now. Absolutely, it's bloodshed. And I think more, I think the cinematic universe is much more so than like the comic books and the cartoons and stuff like that. So I can absolutely see a Marvel,

I can absolutely see the animation departments of Marvel and DC teaming up on something, but cinema-wise, absolutely not. Do you think that could be the stepping stone to maybe getting that one day? Yeah, maybe. I would like to see a Marvel-DC crossover, cinematically. But yeah, I'd take a cartoon. I can see Disney buying DC. I can also see that.

Well, didn't Warner Brothers just get bought out by someone they got bought out by uh comcast or something yeah sure yeah one of those one of those companies that own everything but you don't know who they are yeah and now they own even more than that they own yeah they own they bought warner brothers yeah warner brothers has a lot of money. It would seem that way. Yeah, right. Great. Yeah, yes. More likely, definitely. From Skylar, Outer Context, hashtag weekly planet pod.

Hey, dickhead. Whoa, steady on. Why haven't you ever talked about Flight of the Conchords? Is it because they're from New Zealand and as Australians, you hate New Zealanders? I think we have talked about it a little bit briefly uh-huh we would have talked about it in the context of probably what we do in the shadows sure which is fantastic i love flight of the concourse man me too two seasons yeah done i think they're touring at the moment or yeah soon but also i think it's probably because it was got been and gone before we started that's true That's true. Like 2007, I want to say, 2009?

If we do an episode on some sort of New Zealand content, if we do a New Zealand content special, I'm sure that we brought up. Absolutely we will. Because take a Waititi who's doing the current Thor movie and he did what we did in the shadows and as well as Hunt for the Wilderpeople. Have you seen that? Not yet. Incredible. All right.

Watch it. Check it out. I don't mind. You can do it. I don't mind if you watch it. I totally okay with it oh cool thanks thanks for your thanks for your permission there he had a big head dad he had a big head in flight of the concords yep uh but i had you know when you've ever had a moment where you laugh so uncontrollably you can't breathe and you're worried that everyone's gonna everyone's looking at you and and whatever no i always laugh like no one's watching. Okay, good.

Yeah, I'm free. I'm free as a bird. No consequences. I do what I like. I'm a free spirit. I was on a plane, Mason, coming back from overseas because as you know, I'm a man of the world. I like that.

And I'd never seen Flight of the Conchords, but I'd heard about it. So I was watching a few episodes and I'm not going to do the bit, but there's a bit where one of them the the two guys in it are trying to explain the concept of the chicken and the egg to murray right and i just like i just lost my mind like it was like the funniest thing that i've ever seen and into because all of those guys are incredible yep and and he was also murray was also it's not his name rise ristabi is in that great episode of the new series he's in the best episode of the new season

the x-files the funny one yeah he's really the best episode of the new season. The X-Files, the funny one. Yeah. He's really good. And I just, it just split my head. Like I just couldn't, maybe I was delirious, but it was,

it's an incredible show. Yep. But you know, I've, it's one of those things where I've reluctant to recommend it to people. Cause I know people have seen it and just like, I don't really get this. Like,

what is it? Like, cause it's not gags and it's just, it's mannerisms. It's mannerisms and subtlety and music. and I don't really get this like what is it like because it's not gags and it's just it's mannerisms it's mannerisms and subtlety and music and and i don't know it's just it's great it's really good and it sucks that it's gone i mean it's not gone no it's still in our hearts in our hearts forever every dvd copy was destroyed but it's in our hearts from sebastian cullingham rather than make a whole Universal Monster Cinematic Universe, do you think they should just make it a Van Helsing franchise?

With Hugh Jackman? They did that. Was it no good? Well, it was okay for the time. Everybody turned into a werewolf at the end or something. I don't know if the... I know you're not a big fan of it in general, but if you had to do it, instead of being like this is a frankenstein movie this is a wolfman movie

or whatever this is dracula so it's a series of so it's a series of van helsing movies yes maybe not hugh jackman maybe modern day van helsing or something isn't i don't know i think tom cruise might be playing him yeah or the modern day version of that character yeah sorry go on i don't know i actually with the exception of the tv series jekyll i quite like modern day reinterpretations of yeah these these classic movie monsters or these classic literary monsters i like seeing a modern day frankenstein but you don't like it's like i frankenstein but you for example don't like seeing you're not going to stop me from saying that didn't say it okay good didn't say it he fights gargoyles uh but so when they made like the wolf man with benicio del toro that's a period piece correct you're saying instead of doing that

you modernize it you and you bring them all to the to the to the modern day yeah that way as opposed to being like this is set in bloody 18 yeah. Yeah, I mean, I guess the idea of a period piece and it's the origin of Frankenstein's monster again. We all know what it is. We don't need to see it with a new metal edge to it, you know, again. Yeah, fair enough. It's fine, we don't need that. But if you want to take Frankenstein's monster,

say he survived to the modern era and have an adventure set now, I'm okay with that. I think he's just called Frankenstein. You're right he survived to the modern era and have an adventure set now, I'm okay with that. I think he's just called Frankenstein. You're right. You're absolutely right. Great. I don't know. They're just going to keep trying.

They own the properties. They own them forever. Or everybody owns them. I can't remember. Look, they're never going to catch the public's imagination. Again, the way they originally did. Yeah, fair enough. Too many Draculas, you think.

Exactly, too many Draculas. Yeah, fair enough. All right, well, that's the show for this week, Mason. We did it. Where can people and would they find us? They can find us at Weekly Planet Pod on Facebook and Twitter and Gmail and Bandcamp. Yeah, man. I'm at Wikipedia Brown on Twitter.

I'm at MrSundayMovies. Our friend Robert Collings is at The Weekly Planet on Twitter. Yeah, I'd agree. He's got some fire content on Twitter and YouTube as well. He's in some pretty swift language there, Mason. Thank you. I'm very woke and lit. I'm lit AF, my friend.

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see you next week grab that jam grab that jam bye bye do you want to say the voting thing oh yeah don't vote for Trump it's coming up Alright guys, thanks for listening. Thanks guys, we'll see you next week. Grab that jam, you guys. Bye. Bye. Oh, do you want to say the voting thing? Oh yeah, don't vote for Trump.

It's coming up. I'll not mention it again because either things will have worked out alright in the world or we'll all be dead, so it doesn't matter. I don't weigh in on politics much, Mason. I do follow it quite closely. Vote for whoever you want. That's your choice, free speech and whatnot. And I completely understand why people are kind of gravitating towards Trump because he's saying a lot of things that if were true would be pretty spectacular for a certain

group of people. But if you support that party, you deserve a better candidate than him. When you were a kid, you always knew a kid who would constantly tell really obvious lies and that's him. Yeah, exactly. Anyway, grab that gem, you guys. Do whatever you want.. Yeah. And that's him. Yeah, exactly. Anyway, grab that jam, you guys. Do whatever you want. That's right.

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