The Weekly Planet - 171 Affleck Leaves Batman & Best Universes with Matt Stewart

Episode Date: February 6, 2017

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Red hot comic book movie news. Shooting up your butthole. The Weekly Planet. The Weekly Planet. The Weekly Planet. Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of the Weekly Planet official podcast of comicbookmovie.com, where we talk movies, comics, TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday. With me always is my co-host, carrier of the champ, Nick Mason.

It's me. I won again. He's back. I won the Weekly Planet last week, and now I'm back to do it again. But we've got a special guest this week. We do. We do. A competitor.

Oh, no. That's how it works. Well, see, that's pretty much why I've always won, because I've had no competition. Absolutely. Well, a very special guest. One third of the very funny podcast, Do Go On, which I'm a big fan of.

Yeah. You've been on it. I have been on it. Award-winning comedian. He was the winner of Raw Comedy. That's Australia's nationwide young comedy type person, type search. Sexiest comedian. Sexiest comedian in Australia 2014.

It's Mr. Matt Stewart. Hey, Matt. Welcome. Hey, Nick. Thanks so much for having me. I miss the Sunday. Thank you for being here. We appreciate it.

I just had your face revealed to me. Yeah. Literally just now. Just now. That's right. I had my eyes closed. Terrifying? No.

Suitable? Oh, man. What a lovely surprise. I'll take that. Thank you very much. Here's some more facts about Matt Stewart from Wikipedia. I'm ready. You ready for this?

Did you get a Wikipedia? I don't think so. He's a linebacker. He's been part of the Atlanta Falcons, the Cleveland Browns, the Arizona Cardinals, the Dallas Cowboys

and the Pittsburgh Steelers. What are you doing man? I'm a journey man. I was going to say. No loyalty.

Hey I'm pretty sure both the Ronnies are dead as well. Oh both of them really? Oh no. Sorry for you to find out that way.

So we might have to tweak that maybe on the day. We'll worry about it on the day. Okay let's do it on the day. So we might have to tweak that maybe on the day. Yeah. We'll worry about it on the day. Okay, we'll do it on the day. We'll find out. It'll be fine.

Yeah. Well, Matt, as you know, if you've listened to this show, which I think you have. I have, yeah. You don't have to have. That's a requirement. I was actually, like two days ago, I looked up, you know, my app thing with the podcast or whatever.

Yeah, you get it. And I was like, oh, I wonder if there's a new weekly planet out, and I refreshed it, and there wasn't. And I'm like, oh, I wonder if there's a new weekly planet out. And I refreshed it. And there wasn't. And I'm like, oh, no, I'm on the new weekly planet. So it's clearly, I haven't done that yet. So it's probably not out. Probably not, yeah.

That's often, I will occasionally make an appearance on a podcast that I like, such as your podcast, to go on. And that week, I'm like, oh, I'm on this one. I can't listen to it. It's a real letdown. What a bummer. Because I remember all the stupid things I said. I can't listen to it. It's a real letdown. What a bubber. Because I remember all the stupid things I said. I can't listen to those ones either as well,

the ones that you're on. They're terrible. No, that's okay. They're the best ones. You're well into them. Man, I've learnt some stuff on those. Boy. Jeez.

The thing you mentioned to me yesterday at the DC Universe being the world is bigger. Yes. I love that. Oh, man, that made me feel so pumped. Because it contains all the real world cities, but also all the fake cities. Including Gotham.

Gotham. Metropolis. That's correct. Metropolis. And probably one where one of the green people are from. The goblin or the... Wait, no, it's the green goblin. No, the goblin.

There's probably a DC character called the Goblin. No, the Goblin. That's the one. There's probably a DC character called the Goblin. I wouldn't be surprised. There's even now Charm City. I don't know if you've watched... Charm from the TV show. No, the Charm City is from the new DC TV series, Powerless. Oh, did you watch that? I did watch it.

Should we save it for later? We can save it for later, but there's a new DC TV series set amongst the regular rabble of the DC universe. There's no superheroes in it. Oh, cool. It's just a regular folks. Sounds real boring, but we'll get to it.

Yeah, we'll get to it. So Matt, how many facts do you think you retain from your podcast? Because it's a fact-based... It's all facts. Oh, we should mention as well, you're going to be part of Planet Broadcasting also, and you're going to be there... Just you, not the other two to be there just you not the other two yeah no we don't want them but i'll let them down easy i'm catching up with them later so that's that's going to be fun to tell them after the show yeah i'm going to tell them during yes it's pretty exciting to be over uh we

just we just tweeted that that news out to our our friends who follow us on Twitter. Absolutely. That's how that works. That's exactly how that works, yeah. And they seem excited. Cool, yeah. One person said, what does that mean? And I turned off my phone and went into a different room

because I wasn't fully sure how to answer. But I know it's exciting. Absolutely it is. Well, we've got to get straight into the news. No, no, but the thing about the facts. Sorry, sorry. That's okay. How many facts do you think you retain?

I reckon I leak a lot of them. I reckon maybe 20% to 30% maybe. That's still a good rate. That's quite good. We'll talk about a movie on an episode, and then the next week I'll have no memory. It's like you hadn't seen that movie. It's like I hadn't seen the movie, exactly.

We'll talk about an upcoming movie for like 10 weeks, and then it'll come up and I'll have no memory. It's like you hadn't seen that movie. It's like I hadn't seen the movie, exactly. We'll talk about like an upcoming movie for like 10 weeks and then it'll come up and I'll be like, this totally took me by surprise. When did they announce this? Batman and Superman. That's right. Yeah. Actually, I found out an interesting fact the other day.

Med students' brains, they actually slightly expand apparently. I heard this from a med student during the exam period because they just cram in all this information and so it expands to kind of fill i don't know by how much less than a millimeter and then it shrinks back afterwards just med students that sounds like all the hard work that sounds like a med student showing off med students and podcasters surely yeah surely all all people studying your brain's real swole man man. Yeah, it is. Yeah, it's shredded. My brain's shredded. I dehydrate my brain just before the exam,

so it looks totally shredded. Real cut. Yeah. Real cut brain. So, Avatar's still happening. Matt, you're a fan of the Avatar movie? Look, I'm a person that I think, because you guys are so in to everything that you're kind of jaded by everything, right?

Yes. But I'm kind of the opposite where I'm just like a wide-eyed kid. That's great. I was like, wow, look at all these cool things. So I'm still like Batman versus Superman I quite enjoyed. Awesome. Apart from the Lex Luthor guy, I think. I found him really annoying.

But the rest of it was like, look at him. Batman and Superman together. Imagine it. At last. It's so good. See, that's the thing, because I've been imagining it for 25 years. Yeah. And so ultimately, in a way, it's my fault for being like,

oh, there's nothing that could live up to this. Yeah. But maybe they could have tried a bit harder. Anyway, let's not talk about it. You did explain to me why it was bad, and now I understand. So that's all right. But at the time I was like, oh, look at him go. Didn't change how you felt at the time.

No, you can't do that. Well, I feel I don't want to rain on anybody's parade anymore. So if somebody enjoys a thing that I think is bad, I'm just like, just enjoy it. No, I think you're giving them knowledge and a weight that they'll carry forever. Yeah. Yeah, that does feel good now that i think about it anyway james cabot has said that he's got to be filming the next uh four avatar sequels together so his focus isn't on avatar two his focus is on avatar two three four and five equally uh and he says he's still he feels like he's been let out of jail because

he's been right he's been in the writing cave for the last two years. And he's actually enjoying life. He doesn't enjoy writing. And he says he wouldn't wish writing on a dog. Which is an odd thing to say. No, he's great at metaphors, though. So that's a plus. He could hire a writer, right? Well, he's the kind of guy who likes to do everything and be a bit of a megalomaniac, apparently, in that way.

Why has it taken so long to get sequels? Because it was huge at the time. Yeah, 2009. So it'll be nearly 10 years. Well, he did that and then he bought a submarine or something. I think he already had the submarine. He already had the submarine, but he refurbished the submarine. And then he just took some weird submarine trips.

I don't know. Didn't he? I don't know. Well, he? I don't know. Well, the first time it was because the technology was trying to catch up, but now the technology is established. I mean, obviously, you still get to build upon it, so it'll look better, but no, I don't know. Maybe because he wanted to do four at once,

so he had to do the eight years of prep to kind of even get started on that. No one's ever filmed four movies at once, for a reason, I'd imagine. Has it always been four sequels? Well, it was two initially, and then it was three, and then I think one's a prequel, or one was a prequel, and one's underwater, and I don't know. I reckon maybe it's a series of escalating bets between him and his other rich friends.

Like maybe Leonardo DiCaprio's like, you could never do three, and he's like, I'll put three on the slate, and somebody else is like, you can never do four, though, And he's like, I'll put three on the slate. Somebody else is like, you can never do four though. I'll do four. I'll do it. Great. Anyway.

That's because of Marvel, right? That's changed everything. Now you can just plan so far ahead. Yeah, yeah. But that's, I guess I feel like because that's a studio. He's obviously got a studio behind him, but that's a whole bunch of people working together. Like it's a lot to put on one man.

Yeah. Jeez. Then again, he doesn't really take a foot wrong in terms of filmmaking you you like terminator terminator's good you like avatar yeah i remember i remember thinking like it was you know it was like it looked very nice didn't it it felt like a story i'd seen before yeah absolutely it looked very pretty titanic titanic i saw that twice yeah there, there you go. That's a sign of it. Why were you so puzzled by that? Titanic?

I had to think about whether it was. No, that definitely was. And that is one of those weird movies. You know the movies where you know that it ends badly. Yeah, yeah. And you still watch it. You're still along for the ride. I'm still, yeah.

I'm still, it's part of me going, oh, maybe. I can't help it. I'm like, maybe this time. You're against the film Sully. Is that right? Look, I mean, it's just the idea. I guess it's the same as Titanic, where it's like, you know, it just ends in him landing softly on a river.

What a weird, soft name. Like, no one would write a movie like that, would they? That's a really good point. Oh, but they kind of did with that Denzel Washington one, where he rolls the plane. Remember that? Denzel rolls the plane in the movie. Yeah, I remember that.

Yeah, the chipmunk sidekick. Chipmunk? Chimpanzee. Either way. But, yeah. And the chipmunk can just hang on to anything. So if the plane's rolling, he doesn't care. He's having a ball.

I haven't seen Sully, but isn't the idea that he kind of has to get out of it and the insurance companies are coming after him they're like sully you're responsible you could have landed it up on a better place really okay look i i have no idea oh you haven't seen it we had broden from i don't know if you know sketch group arnie donna absolutely i do broden from them came on and did an episode about uh airplanes okay right yeah yeah on do go on the podcast and he did it yeah he talked about sully and i guess that's why nick's saying that because i was like he broden did not like the fact that i'm like you know and you know how it ends it's boring he's like whoa why not do

nothing then sort of like he took it he took it to a real extreme. Way too seriously. Okay. Just be wary if you ever bump into him. But surely if you extend that out, most movies you could be like, well, this can only really end one of two ways, right? Yeah, that's true. The good guys win or the bad guys win for most movies. But you're eliminating one of those two ways here.

It can end one of one way. I guess that's, yeah, okay. Yeah. All right yeah all right fine anyway ben affleck left the batman movie yeah he did that's a that's a big deal happening yeah because that was going to be really good right everyone was really excited that he was gonna that was the kind of the saving grace people who are even like i hate these movies but ben affleck's gonna do a batman movie it's gonna be great he's gonna save the universe and we're all gonna love it forever and whatever he's still in it he's producer of one of the writers it's getting another rewrite or it has got another rewrite but he's not yeah they need another director so it's gonna be pushed back it's a whole thing the internet is ablaze in a big way

who wants to say something about it pass no i'm just kidding uh look there's a lot of ways this could go uh immediately the meme started and one was like it was a quote from ben affleck which may or not be real but it said something like i'll only direct the batman if the script is good and then underneath it was like ben affleck not directing the batman which yeah you know so so alarmist would say that's because the script is no good uh He recently directed and starred in, and it turns out he wrote it as well, that film. You might have seen posters for it, Live By Night. Yeah.

Is it 1950s gangster film? Something like that. Yeah. I was wondering if it was Live By Night or Live By Night. Driving here today, I passed a poster for it, and I had that conversation with myself. Yeah. Because they never say the title of a movie in a in a trailer anymore there used to be don lafontaine who'd be like

live by night or possibly live by night he died oh yeah but so nobody and that that died with him so nobody says the title there's a bookshop in melbourne called hill of content but maybe it's called the hill of content because it's a bookshop, right? That makes sense. But maybe you're content because you've got knowledge from the books, but maybe it's what's in the bookshop. It's what's in the books, which is content.

That's amazing. But it's probably content. Do you reckon they did it on purpose because they're a literary genius? Yeah. Yeah. Those smug pricks, I'll kill them. I'll kill them with their books.

Well, if you're a fan of Batman v Superman, then you will be. I'll look up. I was saying that to be controversial. Oh, you liked it at the time. It was fine. Yeah, it's fine. Yeah. Was this something that was on your radar that you were looking forward to?

Yeah, because I like, I've liked Ben Affleck movies in recent times. That Boston one about the gang or whatever. Yeah, Boston gang. Is that what it's called? No, it's called The Town. Oh, man. If it was called Boston gang, I would have felt really dumb. The Boston Boys. Yeah. Boston Gang. Is that what it's called? No, it's called The Town. Oh, man. If it was called Boston Gang, I would have felt really dumb. The Boston Boys.

Yeah. And girls. That was good, right? Yeah, absolutely. And so was other things. Argo. Argo's good. Even though he plays a Latino character.

That's right, he does. Which is a bit weird. Yeah, but he grew his hair out for it. Yeah, that's true. I mean, that's probably enough to make whitewashing okay. But yeah, so I always thought it was going to make whitewashing okay but um yeah so i always thought it was like gonna be amazing right yeah yeah so this feels like that he didn't believe it was gonna be amazing well if you believe the meme yeah like i think you know

other people are saying well this movie that he you know he wrote and he directed and he started he poured his heart into it and then then people were like, it's fine. And so maybe he's lost steam. Totally. Maybe he's like, I just want to be in a movie. I don't want to get the crushing pressure of every... Right. Yeah.

And especially something like this, because since he was cast in 2013, everyone's like, even though before the announcement, everyone's like, he's probably going to direct a Batman movie. It's coming. So that's all people have been asking him about for three years. And even up to two weeks ago, he was like, look, I'm going to do it. Everyone shut up, leave me alone. And then two weeks ago, he's like, oh, not two weeks ago, like a few days ago, he's like,

no, I'm not doing it anymore. I actually did a video on it. Like I found a whole lot of interviews where he like, where he like, it's not up, where he like flipped back and forth. It'll be up now if you're listening to this, but if you're in the room, it's not up now. I am listening to this now though. If you're in the room now. Oh, I listening to this now though if you're in the room now oh i see that it's not gotcha but uh but there's i found a bunch of interviews so if i'm in the room now yeah it won't be available for me later is

correct for you wow yeah i know yeah wow that's how that works like we've been cursed man oh no but i found a whole lot of interviews where he kind of flips back and forth on whether or not he's doing it and the constant is i'm only going to do it if it's good. That's the thing that he kind of says in every interview. And I feel like they kind of pressured him to meet this release date. And because he likes to kind of, you know, get all these ducks in a row and whatever. He has some pet ducks. He has some ducks, yeah.

He's very eccentric. Come along, Frederick. We've got a movie to make. But, uh... What was I saying? Fuck you, Mason. Ducks in a row. Fuck it all.

He wants to get his ducks in a row. He wants to get his ducks in a row. And because Warner Brothers were kind of pushing him, he's like, well, I can't make this the way I want it to, so he jumped ship. But now because of that, they can't meet their release date or even his release date. So it's going to be back even further,'d imagine because they're going to get a new

director and who's going to want to jump on board now i mean they'll find someone but how weird that they're it's hard to get a someone to direct batman yeah i know that's so weird but this universe is kind of people have dropped out a lot like we've been talking about it recently the flash has lost two directors yeah yeah uh wonder woman lost a director they all lost him in an ocean they all lost him in motion yeah uh there's been a there's been a few other things like that happening so yeah who knows i think for me i think the real reason it's not it's not because the script is particularly bad and it's not because he's had this lukewarm reception i think it's because of the pressure of this is this is kind of a linchpin are we going to have a good dc universe are we going to have an overall bad dc universe

and if he's just like well i'm just a hired gun i just i i'm just here and i'm standing on my mark and i say my lines yeah it's and there was a lot of there's you know it's who's it's not my fault kind of thing and he was loved for that, right? His portrayal was pretty well. Yeah. Apart from the Razzies. Yeah. What do you think of that? It's weird.

Yeah. Because Lex Luthor wasn't nominated. That is weird. Yeah. Was he not? I haven't read the list. I don't know. Not the list.

Oh, maybe because he wasn't a leader. I might have been. Yeah. So Henry Cavill and Ben Affleck were. Henry Cavill's barely in that movie. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. But I think Affleck's just like,

if I just say I'm acting in this, all the decision-making is in the hands of somebody else and I can't be responsible for this. Yeah, absolutely. Which I would do myself. Who wouldn't? Makes total sense. It just feels like, yeah,

I would have thought he'd be a guy who is full of confidence and just like, yeah, I can, I can make this all better. I think absolutely until this recent kind of miss with his, so I think he kind of took a hit and he went, Oh, wait a minute. Maybe I am bad at this. I got lucky.

I did win an Oscar, but that was when there was like, you know, two other people were nominated for Oscars. Yeah, exactly. Now it's a much bigger field. That's it.

I like how that in your mind, that makes it different. Cause I mean, he's still nominated fromars. Yeah, exactly. Now it's a much bigger field. I like how that, in your mind, that makes it different. Because, I mean, you're still nominated from everyone. The shortlist is shorter. But it's not like they were the only available actors. You know what I'm saying, Mason? I do know what you're saying. I also know what you're saying. I just quickly, there's a petition online that had something like 3,000,

maybe 4,000 signatures to get Zack Snyder to direct this because he'd be the perfect choice. That's this they think uh who did batman superman mason how do you feel about that uh look 2999 of those signatures were mine i feel he can do it i just keep signing you don't really think that no okay good give it to anyone else okay but you guys aren't you guys paid by marvel we absolutely that's absolutely correct deep down you just yeah always have hated them i need to cut you a check on the way out as well if you're on board that is i'm on board marvel's the best universe and dc is no good take that even though it is clearly perfect but i will not say that because i i like money too

much absolutely we all do so So does Temuera Morrison. How do you say his name? No, you nailed that. Is that right? No. Yeah, Twemwemwera. How do you say it? Temuera, I think.

Temuera? He's Jango Fett from the Star Wars movies. Yes. For those people not in the know. He's going to be playing Aquaman's human father, and Nicole Kidman's going to be playing his Atlantean mother. Oh. That's happening now.

Okay. He's been changed heaps, right? Because he's not, he's a big hairy guy. Yes, yeah, yeah. But he's not, it's weird how you can do that. Well, a lot of people, actually people are okay with this generally, aren't they? They seem to be. I think so, yeah.

Like, because you, and Aquaman's one of those characters where in the comic books they never really have known what to do with him. Yeah. And so he's gone through a lot of changes. So he, he started as this, you know, he was in the green tights and the orange, the orange, the goldfish scales. He looked great. And then very clean cut as they all were.

Blonde as. Yeah. And then, you know, in the nineties, everybody got more extreme in the, in, in the comic book universe as everybody was got, became cyborg tough guys kind of thing. And so he lost one. One of his arms was eaten by piranhas. And so he got like a mechanical hook that he could shoot out. Wow.

Like a harpoon. Like a grappling hook. And he got like a big beard and big old long hair. And he became a kind of a rough and tough guy. Oh, so he had done that. He'd already done that. Yeah, he's sort of done a bit of this. Yeah, so it's not that much of a leap.

No. And we, yeah, and they've sort of attempted to do the clean cut version of like TV shows and cartoons and things like that. Everyone hates it. You know, in the Entourage universe. Yes. The Entourage-verse, yes.

The Turtle-verse. Wasn't the guy we were just talking about before? The Vinnieverse. Yeah. The Avatar director. What's his name? James Cameron, yeah. He was going to direct a movie about...

He did, yeah. Oh, he did do it. In the Entourage universe, he directed the Aquaman movie with Vinnie Chase and then Michael Bay did the sequel with Jake Gyllenhaal. So funny. That is a funny show. And I've heard them say...

That's a good show. What a classic a classic show great just a great comedy show but the in the i heard them talking about it and they picked that because they thought it was the most ridiculous superhero right to choose and they thought no one would ever make a movie yeah so it's so funny yeah that they would they happen to go on anything these days we've got bloody talking raccoons and whatever and anything goes man so a man who can regular raccoons can you imagine yeah uh so yeah anything kind of goes now the weirder the kind of maybe not the weirder the better but hollywood's more game isn't it and i think maybe a lot of it is kind of the challenge like an aquaman aquaman survived so many years in the comic was partly because i think dc's editor-in-chief has always whichever one they have

has always had a soft spot for aquaman yeah so that's number one so that's why he keeps going but also because i think there are a whole there are a whole long list of people who are like i can do this like i can make the version that everybody loves like i can make kind of a cool a cool aquaman kind of thing. This is the only DC movie that I'm kind of like, I don't really have any problems. I don't see any problems with it because it's James Wan who did Saw and he also did the latest Fast and Furious.

Both of which, you know, they're exactly what they need to be and they're quite entertaining. And he seems to have a handle on it. Nobody's kind of quit or complaining or whatever. You know, there's been rumors that he's going to quit and he's quickly shot them down on it. Nobody's kind of quit or complaining or whatever. There's been rumors that he's going to quit and he's quickly shot them down and it's all moving forward. So this one actually might be the one to kind of break the mold. How interesting.

Because it's lower stakes as well. I guess it might be. Yeah, that's exactly it. I guess that's also in 2008, like the first big Marvel movie was Iron Man because nobody cared about Iron Man yeah like there were no expect they could make

changes they could you know cast whoever they wanted they could cast a well-known drug addict they could do that yeah but and so it was kind of the

stakes were low it's hard to think about it like that now I just in my head I didn't know that that they just got the leftovers basically yeah

absolutely yeah you taught me that on on our podcast. We did a Marvel episode. It's great. Yeah, people should listen to it. They're pretty much the leftover characters that they hadn't sold off to stay afloat. The ones nobody wanted.

Yeah, amazing. They wanted Spider-Man. They wanted X-Men. They wanted Daredevil. But they didn't want the Captain America Hulk. Oh, no, Hulk was not important. But yes, it is amazing. Absolutely. And then just because they've done them well they've turned them into huge characters but the weird thing is though the the avengers from the avengers movie that's

pretty much the original lineup in the comics as well it's like that's true yeah close isn't it yeah even with the same villain and everything so maybe the avengers wouldn't happen if they didn't happen to have that little crew of characters. That's exactly what I think it is, yeah. Was the Avengers big before the movie? Mason, what do you reckon? No, not really. I would say no. It's pretty good.

Nobody was kind of clambering to make an Avengers movie in the 90s, but they were always trying to do one version or another of the Justice League at some at some point yeah but there was a tv version it's fucking terrible oh i'm saying is that is that the one with captain america on a motorbike no no that's uh what's that one what's that one from the early 90s yes there's been there's been a few attempts yeah there's a version uh we've spoken about it uh ages ago years ago there was a version of captain america in the 40s where he doesn't have a shield he's just got a gun he's just a man with a gun running about uh yeah there's there's a version uh captain america's played by jd salinger's kid yes that's yeah he's got rubber ears on the outside of the because they couldn't work away

work out a way to kind of make his ears look okay so they just they just stuck rubber ears on the outside of the, because they couldn't work out a way to kind of make his ears look okay. So they just stuck rubber ears to the outside of the mask. It's pretty great. And he's always stealing cars. That's what that is. He pretends to be sick and then steals a car like twice in that movie. That's the American way anyway. Absolutely.

Dennis Villeneuve, who directed Sicario, he's doing the Blade Runner sequel. He's now on board for the Dune remake. Oh, yes. Is he with the Dune film or books or anything like that? We say it's funny. Dune. Dune.

It's Dune, like sand Dune. Dune. Dune, yeah, like the month. But not spelled the same. Don't make that mistake. So, Mason, what's this? You've read it or something or seen it, haven't you? I've attempted to read it many times.

Yeah. Frank Herbert's Dune, real long series. Yeah, man. It's set on the planet Arrakis. It's a desert planet. Is it the future or the past or whatever? I don't think it's the future. I think it's an alien.

It's a whole alien situation. It's an alien, gotcha. I'm ready to be corrected on Twitter and emails. But it's a desert planet and it's hostile and it's filled with, you know, humans can't survive there naturally and there's these giant sandworms that try and eat you. But they need to go there to mine the spice.

They need the spice so they can navigate through space because you need spice to navigate through space in the Dune universe. The Duneiverse. Spelled with a J. Yeah. What do you reckon about that Matt have an opinion

on that thing I've just come up with now that sounds really good there was a movie I like spice name your favourite spices in order

okay scary very good got him nice there was a movie in the 80s early 80s

that David Lynch directed you probably it was like a it was sort of a Star Wars knockoff. They were like, oh, no, we can make this now. And it just didn't do well. People didn't understand it. It's kind of got a cult following,

but it's always been considered unfilmable and don't do it. But someone's doing it. I love that. Yeah. I love someone filming the unfilmable. That's it. So, yeah, it's a good director, so it'll be fine or not. Who knows?

The Runaways has been cast, Mason. That's one of your favourite things. Yeah. Here's the cast. Ariel Bauer. Never heard of him or her. Stop me when you know someone. Laika Okano.

Greg Sulkin. You can also stop me, Matt. I've heard the name. If you know these names. I've heard the name Greg Sulkin, but I don't know who it is. Okay, Sulkin. Did I say that right? Yeah, you did. Okay, good. Virginia Gardner. Allegra Acosta. You love The R, but I don't know who it is. Okay, Sulkin. Did I say that right? Yeah, you did.

Okay, good. Virginia Gardner, Allegra Acosta. You love The Runaways, don't you? Yes. So The Runaways, Matt, it's okay. Matt's looking very panicked. It's all right, we'll slow down. Shit.

So you don't have to know any of those names. I don't know any of the names either. So one of the things, when friends of ours listen to this podcast, often the first thing they say is, I don't understand what you were talking about, but you seem to be having a good time. We're often not. Yeah, that's right.

We're good at faking it. So it's good to have a layman here. Absolutely. And not an awful nerd. You know what I mean? I know. An awful layman. Yeah.

So The Runaways is a Marvel comic book series that was about these young kids, like teens, and they're all friends. They're sort of, they're, they're, they're brought to, well, they're not, they're not really friends. They're kind of strangers and they're brought together because their parents all get together to like have a, you know, to have a get together at a house. And then these kids all realize that their parents are super villains that sounds awesome and they're all sort of you know they've all gotten together not to have like a you know have a fun get together but they're there to sacrifice like a kid to to gain more evil powers and so all the kids realize this at once and they all have to go on the run and so they're like running through the marvel universe trying to get help and try and you know reveal that their parents are evil and that sort of thing. That sounds so good. It's a real good...

I've never read any of these. Are they well-known villains? Or are they kind of like... No, they're all new villains. Oh, they're all new villains. Yeah, so it's not... They're not like Doctor Doom's kids or anything like that, so... And the villains are just living in houses.

Just like us. What? Yeah. No lairs or anything anything they probably have like a subterranean bunker i guess i assume yeah look there's some i don't want to spoil anything but there's some layers later on don't you worry about that very good but they've got a they've got a summer house and they've got a winter lair so so anyway i i recognize maybe allegra something something yeah that sounded like something seems like is she a pop star do you have links there those are all actors okay i'm gonna look up greg sulkin because i feel

i recognize that name here we go here we go oh greg with two g's hello at age 10 he made his film debut in the 2002 dr zhivago miniseries. That's where I remember it from. Not true. Not true at all. Matt, you a Doctor Who fan at all? No. Okay, good. You'll love this then. Peter Capaldi is leaving Doctor Who. Oh, no.

The latest Doctor Who. Yeah. So isn't he the last one? Didn't they say early on that there was only going to be a certain amount and this is the last one? That's true. Yeah, there was. There was a finite.

Doctor Who's got like 13 regenerations. Is that right? Yes. And I think he might be be the last one but i think they've got to the point where they're just like nah yeah they threw at some point because we don't do you still james do you still watch no i'm off okay right will you get back to it though nah well steven moffat's leaving yeah who does the sherlock tv series and he does this current run of doctor who and i feel that's kind of the reason I kind of went off. I like Stephen Moffat, but it's a lot of, like, Doctor Who wins because he's the best, and he does a thing at the 11th hour,

and he remembered he could do a reverse of the thing, and whatever, you know what I mean? All that kind of stuff, yeah. So they kind of need some fresh blood in it. Yeah, so I think at some point during the Doctor Who, like during the last couple of years of Doctor Who, they went, that rule doesn't apply anymore. If we want to have a million Doctors, we can do it. It's totally fine.

People are saying female Doctor Who is next. Who knows? Cool. They always throw up a bunch of names. A female Doctor. Believe it. That's right. No, no, no, no, no, no.

But I always find with these things, and like James Bond, they throw up a bunch of names and it's never any of them. It's always like somebody you know that they weren't even on anyone's radar. Anyway, enough of that, Mason. No, wait, wait.

Let's bloody fantasy cast the new Doctor Who. Well, aren't they also saying that this might be the last season of Doctor Who? No, they're going to do... It's a limited run and then they're doing a Christmas episode and then it's a new creative team. I've seen a few episodes with the new Doctor.

Yeah, I've seen a couple. I don't mind him. He's pretty good. No, I'm not against him either. He's very cool, isn't he? And he's a bit scatterbrained. Well, see, there are episodes of it where he's like, he's got his cool sunnies on and he's playing a cool guitar riff.

There's one where he's on a tank playing a guitar. That's the same episode. Yeah. So there was, I think there was, there was efforts to be like, he's old, but he's cool.

Yeah. Don't you worry about that. But the one, the later one, I've seen some of the later ones where he's just kind of old and scatterbrained. And I, I actually quite enjoyed those quite a bit. That sounds better.

Yeah. Right. I'm not picturing that well. No, that's, it's cringy. Yeah, absolutely. I look, picturing that well. No, it's cringy. Yeah. Absolutely.

Look, I'm okay with bad TV, but I'm not okay with cringy TV, I think. Right, right. That's my issue there. Is it always a British person? Yes. So who do you reckon it's going to be, Nick? Oh. There's talk that Matt Smith might come back.

Might be Matt Smith. Who was the previous one. Yeah. Who do you think? Maybe Greg Sulkin. Oh, yeah. Yeah. From Dr. Zhivago.

From Dr. Zhivago, yeah. Look, he's very good in TV series with Doctor and the title. Should we do that? He's perfect for it, yeah. Okay. Fair enough. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies

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they're amazing cinematic universes, two of which, two of those movies, both of those movies aren't out in Australia this week. They're out everywhere else in the world inexplicably, except here. I don't know why. Back to the dark old days, when we had to wait for a movie. Yeah. No good. Devastating. We thought we'd talk about best and worst universes, best and worst universes, from around the literature and whatever, movies, TVs, all of that stuff.

Some of our favorites, some of our least favorites. Does anyone want to kick that off? You do. Oh, do I? Yeah. Okay, I've got a list here. Do you guys like Stranger Things? Yes.

There was a Ghostbusters photo. Did you see that this week? That's exciting. Because it's coming out, it's set in the year of Ghostbusters. What year you see that this week? Yeah, that's exciting. They're bringing that in. Because it's coming out. It's set in the year of Ghostbusters. What year is that? 84. 84, yeah.

You a big Ghostbusters man, fam? No. He's good with dates, though. Boy, are you. What did you like about Stranger Things? I don't know. I don't know what it was. Probably nostalgia.

Probably nostalgia. But I think it's more... But I wasn't even alive then, so I don't know. I mean, if I was... When was the first one set? It might be the year I was born. I think so, maybe. Yeah. Oh, I think it's more... But I wasn't even alive then, so I don't know. I mean, if I was... When was the first one set? Might be the year I was born. I think so, maybe. Yeah.

Oh, I was born in 83. Okay, yeah. I don't know what it was, but it was something really... Because I never played Dungeons & Dragons. Right, yeah. It was the first time I'd seen it. Yeah, sure. So I was like, I couldn't be nostalgic for it, but something about it was just amazing.

And I love, you know, that upside-down... Oh, no, I can't. You probably can't say something. Spoilers for all this. Okay, good upside down. Oh, no, I can't. You probably can't. Spoilers for all this. Okay. Like the upside down world and stuff and just like going, what the fuck? Can you swear on this? Absolutely.

What the fuck is going on with the letters on the wall? You get one, mate. All right. Yeah. I don't know what it was. I can't explain it, but I watched it so quickly. Yeah. I watched it in like three days.

Absolutely. Which is really quickly for me. I think it's not three days. Absolutely. Which is really quickly for me. I think it's not just the, I think part of it is the nostalgia, but you can't kind of live off nostalgia alone. That won't sustain a show. But yeah, I think you're absolutely right. There's more to it than just like, remember? Yeah, because that's what people have said,

that people are like, oh, it's just nostalgia and it's just a pastiche. I said that funny, didn't I? But I'm like, oh, it's just nostalgia and it's just a pastiche. It's a lot of fun, isn't it? But I'm like, I don't... Well, we can swear, but none of your fancy $10 words, mate. All right? People, I had read reviews of it sort of bagging it out for being just like using old references and stuff. You can say pastiche, it's fine.

Okay, great. Old references and stuff. It's fine as well, right? But I'm like, oh, all those old references you're talking about, I've never heard of and I liked it still, so what does that mean? Yeah, look, I think you can sustain something solely on nostalgia. Like, you know, every second BuzzFeed article is like, hey, remember these toys from when you were a kid?

Feel old, yeah. Yeah, exactly. You're a 90s kid if you remember these but I think they I think they definitely sold the idea as hey remember E.T. remember

yeah remember Alien remember whatever yeah but look yeah I think it's a it's real solid I don't know about this Ghostbusters connection

what are you guys doing I think it's oh it's a picture of them in Ghostbusters outfits okay I'm assuming it's Halloween oh yeah okay right god those

they look like the kind of outfit when the proton packs were like, nobody could possibly have that in the 80s. Yeah. It looked very good. Yeah. It looked like they'd been to set and... Absolutely. Absolutely.

Yeah. Anyone got another one? Or is that it? Yeah, that's, we're done. The best and worst is Stranger Things. Yeah. I think one of the things I like about universes always blows me away. And that's why I always like talking to Mace and asking lots of questions about stuff.

Sure. I'm ready. It's just like characters cross over from what seemingly are two separate universes. And then all of a sudden, it's like, oh, no, they're in the same universe. Oh, my God. We should talk about the Tommy Westfall universe then. Oh, my God. So there was about the Tommy Westfall universe then. Oh, my God. So there was a TV series called St Elsewhere.

It was set in a hospital. This was in the 80s. And in the final episode of the season, there was a young boy named Tommy Westfall. He was like a mentally disabled boy. And at the end of the episode at the end of the final episode you see that Saint Elsewhere the hospital is inside a snow globe like on his bedside table and so it's implied that the Saint Elsewhere uh like this whole series took place inside his mind because he just saw the because I know like what does what's even thinking yeah

exactly yeah and so and so the entire series of Saint Elsewhere took place inside his mind. But also Saint Elsewhere had a number of crossovers with other TV series. So technically everything all links together into the same universe. I'm going to bloody look it up right now. It's like everything. It's like X-Files. It's like NYPD Blue. It's like The Mentalist probably.

Yeah. Just all of them. You know what I mean? That's cool. Yeah. I love that so much. Because you know how every kind of, I know there's a lot of kind of loose links in those 90s shows,

like Mulder and Scully would turn up in The Simpsons or whatever, you know what I mean? One of the major links is Richard Belzer, who is, he's in, he's an American stand-up comedian, and he wears little... He was in a lot of the Law & Order series. He's an American stand-up comedian. He's very loud and opinionated. He wears these tiny little black sunglasses all the time,

even indoors and at night. And he was in The X-Files, and he was also in Law & Order, and he's been in NYPDd blue and so all those universes sort of linked oh that's the same guy yeah wow they all exist in this kid's head that's ridiculous there was a you know um seinfeld heard of that vaguely yes so seinfeld was connected to mad about you yep because kramer like i think think maybe Paul Reiser was his landlord or something. Right. Okay.

And Kramer talked about the comedian across the hall named Jerry. That's amazing. And then on another Mad About You episode, no, on a Friends episode, No, on a Friends episode, Helen Hunt's character from Mad About You thought Phoebe was Ursula from Mad About You, but then they're identical twins. Identical twin sisters. Right, right. So those three are connected. But then George Costanza watched an episode of mad about you with susan one time so the the universe of mad about you exists in the seinfeld universe but also as a television show so i don't know

what that means what does that mean nick what does it mean when they're they're just trapped in hell so so something else where characters appeared in Homicide Life in the Street. So, John Munch, who is Richard Bell's character, he was on Homicide Life in the Street. He was also in Law and Order. He was in SVU. He was in 326 episodes of SVU. He was in The Beat.

He was in The X-Files. He made an appearance there. Was he in Millennium? He was not in Millennium. Millennium was the spinoff from The X-Files. Yeah, so that still connects, right? It's the spin-off from the x-files yeah so that still connects right yeah same universe yeah that's right yeah oh man that's a i never really understood i never i never understood the x-files universe i never it's so bizarre i never understood

the the underlying conspiracy theory because the idea was that it was um you know every every week they they found a you found a weird mythical creature or a mythical scenario which we all thought was just a legend or an urban myth or what have you, but it turned out to be real. But there was also this underlying plot where these aliens had previously attempted to invade Earth and then they'd made an agreement with the world's governments to acquire people to turn into mutants or something.

It involved aliens and bees and black oil. There was a werewolf. There was a werewolf at times. There was a tick man, a leech man, a human leech man. Yeah. I mean, I don't understand why they even, why they bring, like, because they're bringing a lot of stuff back. I started watching the original stuff when it was coming back out.

Yeah. Yeah. My partner loves it. How did it hold up for you uh some of i've watched the first season and i enjoyed more than i didn't that's and that's saying something because that's like a early 90s yeah yeah there were some episodes like what was the point of that there was one episode it was like a man was living in the forest it was just like a forest man yeah and it's just like there was one really long chase scene in a abandoned factory was he murdering people i don't think so what kind of man live in the forest it was live alone because we we remember all the episodes where

there was a guy who could shape shift and we remember yeah you know the guy who's a fat sucking vampire yeah we remember the guy who could squeeze through all the ducts and stuff but we never remember just the guy who lived in a forest i feel that's you can always tell when the budget has run out for a season yeah when they're like we're gonna solve the mystery of a guy and he works at the supermarket and he's kind of cranky to people is he is he a monster no he's just a guy okay yeah and we're trapped in the in the like one small area yes exactly the whole episode yeah i think that show it kind of did stretch itself in terms of what is in that universe. Because it's literally everything.

It's vampires and aliens and werewolves and monsters and time travel. And they did time travel, didn't they? Yes, they did. I'm fairly certain they did. There was one where, yeah. Or maybe it was all in the mind. There was one where they, something about a ship. Yes, that's exactly the one I'm thinking of.

That's what you get here in this podcast. You get knowledge bombs. There was an episode on a ship that may have involved time travel. Okay, so what's a weirder universe, James? Because you're familiar with both. What's a weirder universe? The X-Files universe or the Supernatural universe? Oh, they're the same.

They're the same. They're all got the same shit. Which do you find harder to buy? Do you find it harder to buy that there's two FBI agents investigating the weird? Or do you find it harder to buy that there are two dudes just driving around killing monsters? I think the FBI is less likely because the amount of times that Mulder gets fired or his office burns down or whatever, that keeps happening to him. And they keep rehiring him and then he's on the run and then he's the most wanted man in America. And then they just give him his badge back, but in supernatural,

which is a great show, sort of still going. Yeah. I'm two seasons behind. I'm waiting till it all comes on Netflix and I can check out where I'm up to. But yeah, it's these two brothers who are on the run from the law and they pretend

that they're FBI agents or CIO, whatever. And then they just kill monsters across America, which I kind of, I enjoy that universe. I think it's cool. Yeah. And then they just kill monsters across America, which I kind of, I enjoy that universe. I think it's cool. Yeah. And it's, I don't know, I think it's, they've built the mythology better, like they're dealing

with demons and angels and whatever. X-Files is more scattershot, but this kind of builds. The guy who lives in the forest. Yeah, that's right. But Supernatural, like their story arcs build to, even if it's not a great story arc, it always builds towards a thing. Like Satan's going to be released from hell or whatever. Like even if it's not a great story arc it always builds towards a thing like satan's gonna be released from hell or whatever like even if it's not great they're that's pretty that's big that's a big thing that's a big one that's season five man so yeah and you think

that would be the end but it was not the well it was supposed to be the day right other six or whatever whatever it is i don't think it got any better than that but um no it's a solid show man it's good yeah and they're very handsome they're handsome boys aren't they yeah they are that is true yeah that is something that's definitely going for it it's probably similar buffy universe is probably similar right yeah you guys yeah i never watched it i watched it yeah yeah back in the day and probably since yeah i really really like did you does that count like do you love the angel universe as well yeah i preferred the angel universe for a while a while. But I think I went back to Buffy because it's darker. Sure, absolutely. Spike.

I don't remember there ever being any sun. I guess that's probably because of the vampire lead. That may be it. Yeah, yeah. I like that whole world. Right, right. Spike in that episode, in that series, he had a chip in his brain that made him good.

Was that right? I'll break it down for you. Please. So I went through high school as the characters from Buffy went through high school. So I graduated the same year they all graduated. So they're my guys. Even though they're probably all 10 years older than you.

Yes, exactly. What was... Oh, we'll talk about it later. Why are we talking about it now? Why not? We've got plenty. Doesn't matter. Whatever you want. If we're talking about it later. Why don't we talk about it now? Why not? We've got plenty. Doesn't matter. Whatever you want.

If we're talking about TV shows set in high school where all the characters are 35, Riverdale is out on Netflix. No, they're all young. What? Archie's 19. They look very old. There's a lot of abs.

Yeah, there's so many abs. We'll talk about it later. What are we talking about? You were explaining... I was sure you were going to bring up Beverly Hills, 90210. Well, interestingly... Crossover. Luke Perry is in... Is it Luke Perry? It's Luke Perry. What are we talking about? You were explaining I was sure you were going to bring up Beverly Hills 9-2-1-0 Well, interestingly Luke Perry is in

Is it Luke Perry? It's Luke Perry Luke Perry is in Riverdale So As a high school student? He's 50 now Which means he was like Maybe 30 when that show was around

Yeah, there was a few Like late 20s, early 30s I just remember the lines in his forehead He's been like No, that's not They are deep trenches He's looking great Yeah, there was a few like late 20s, early 30s. I just remember the lines in his forehead. He's been like, no, that's not. They are deep trenches. He's looking great, but you know. Yeah.

Well, he's 50. I mean, he looks good for 50, but anyway, you were saying Buffy. He was also in the Buffy movie. He was. Like the movie movie without Sarah Michelle Gellar. Is that right? I haven't seen that. It was totally different. Okay. Kiwi totally different. Okay.

Kiwi Herman's in it. Josh. Josh. Joss Whedon. Yeah, yeah. Like, I think he hated it, how it turned out. Oh, okay, right. I think that was why he ended up doing the TV series or something like that.

Yeah. Yeah. And sort of languishing in obscurity for just doing these TV series that didn't really rate well for a really long time. And then Avengers and then... Yeah. And then another Avengers movie. He did too, didn't he? He did. Anyway, Spike had a chip in his head.

Oh, sure. Right. So anyway... Did Spike and Buffy get together as well? Yeah. But also Angel. Yeah, Spike and Angel. Yeah.

Oh, good. I like that. Yeah, it's good. So, okay. So Spike was one of the evil vampires in the series. Right. He was one of Angel's compadres back in the day when they were both evil and killing.

And then Angel was cursed by gypsies. I don't think you can say gypsies anymore. I'll bleep it out. Okay, great. And he got his soul back and he became good and sort of wracked by all the evil he'd done in his life and he was real sad about it all the time. But Spike remained evil and he came to Sunnydale in season two, I think.

But then a couple of seasons later, he was captured by a military team called the Initiative who put a chip in his brain so he couldn't act out on any of his violent impulses anymore. Oh, they'd kill him or he just couldn't do it? No, he got incredible pain any time he attempted to kill anybody. Who sets the moral barometer there? Like, can he not jaywalk?

The government. Oh, I see. Do you know what I mean? Like, what's the line? Oh, probably murder. Yeah, so he can push an old lady down some stairs, but he can't. Oh, if he knows it's not going to kill her. Yeah, that's right, yeah.

As long as his fangs aren't out but then he got hit in the head and in a in a in a fun coincidence he could he could only kill demons after that so he could only kill the bad guy that is a fun isn't it though it's so fun yeah yeah james cameron said recently that he thinks the alien universe is played out because we've had alien aliens, alien 3, alien resurrection, alien versus predator twice prometheus and now a prometheus sequel and he's like I think they should let it go because he did the second one he did aliens are you guys sick of the aliens universe?

do you think it's something they should let go? look I would be if I'd ever seen any of them what's the first two? first two are great. Alien and Aliens, really good. Yeah, they're like just classic movies. Absolutely, yeah. I should probably see them.

You don't have to. It's fine. I'm going to go do it. Do it. Good. You should also watch the first Predator and then Alien vs. Predator 2, which a lot of people maintain is bad,

but I think is very good. Well, not good. I like it when someone gets on board something that everyone universally hates. That's the best. That's when you really believe. We might have a letter about it later, Mason, directed at you specifically. Not that, but something that you love that people hate. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. But no, I don't know if that universe is done necessarily. Prometheus was a weird fucking mix of nonsense, but I don't know if it's done entirely i don't think it is done i think james cameron's making five avatar movies and he's talking about getting rid of that universe is done what else can they do with it underwater i'm accusing you i find it it's weird when someone says like that they don't have anything to do with it's like none of your business don't worry about it you don't have to to do with it. It's like none of your business, basically. Don't worry about it. You don't have to watch them. Yeah.

Why? Yeah, it's weird that you haven't. I mean, maybe he should because he made one, but it feels like, yeah, why? Yeah, you're absolutely right. He doesn't need to take a shot, but he did say that he'll watch anything that Ridley Scott makes. So he did kind of put, you know, he did make that clear that, you know,

maybe there is some life in it or whatever, but he's also bringing back the Terminator universe. So if you're familiar with those films, you've probably seen some of them. I've seen some of them. Yeah, some of them. I've seen the first two. Yeah. That's all you need, really.

Do you guys like an alternative history kind of movie? We're talking about universes, aren't we? Yeah, in the vaguest possible sense. Like Forrest Gump, that universe, he's just gone through time and just kind of inserted himself into key events. Yeah, I find that really fun. Yeah, I find that fun. Absolutely.

I liked, what was that Brad Pitt movie where he killed Hitler? Oh, yeah, that's funny. Inglourious Basterds. Inglourious Basterds, yeah, totally. Yeah, I like that sort of stuff. So supposedly the Tarantinoverse, like all the movies that Tarantino's directed are in the same universe. Oh, yes.

Some of them are, but some of them are movies. Oh, okay, right. So the basic premise is that the universe, the Quentin Tarantino universe is a universe that's like ours, but it's slightly more, well, it's quite a lot more violent. Like people think violence is more acceptable in that universe. Like it's okay to just cut a guy's ear off or what have you. And that's because in this universe,

Hitler didn't die in a bunker. He was machine gun to death in a theater that was then set on fire. And it was the greatest victory. It was the greatest victory of all time. And so people are like, yes, that's the way to go. Let's just,

and so all like all the movies are more violent more violent and the universe itself is more violent. Is this a fan theory? No, he's come out and said... Oh, so good. I don't know if he said that specifically, but he has said that, no, this universe is all connected. So the vampires from Dust or Dawn are in a movie

or are they vampires? I don't know if he did. Oh, maybe he did. I'll look that up just quickly. I thought he did. But can you explain how some of the movies exist as movies? Okay, sure. So let me think now.

Okay, so in Pulp Fiction, Uma Thurman's character says that she was in a movie or a TV series called Fox Force 5, which is about a group of sexy ladies who are also killers. And they each have their own individual killing skill. That essentially is all the characters in Kill Bill. So Uma Thurman in Pulp Fiction played a fictionalized version of the bride in Kill Bill. And like all the people she kills, all the other women she kills in Kill Bill are presumably her compatriots in in what was

fox force five and death proof and planet terror is a movie that plays in the pulp fiction universe i don't know if you remember those ones there was there were these intentional b movies they made in the early 2000s they're not very good some people like them but uh yeah dusk till dawn screenplay by quentin tarantino but rod Robert Rodriguez. Oh, right, okay. I wouldn't be surprised if it was still connected. So you mentioned the World War II thing. I love anything that's like, what if kind of the Nazis won? Because that's my dream, obviously.

Oh, no. Now you're trapped in the room. You had to promote Harry Shavers against your will. And, oh dear. Harry's also a Nazi. That's right. There's been a few video games, like some of the Wolfenstein games, where it's if World War II went a different direction.

And, you know, the Allies didn't win. I know Man in the High Castle. You've seen that, haven't you, Mason? Yeah, I'm on Amazon Video. It's great, isn't it? Yeah, it's good. Yeah, so it's this alternate version of history where the Nazis won and then there's still this underground resistance kind of fighting this ongoing war, which is apparently it's very good.

I should watch it, yeah? Yeah. I will. Good. Yeah. So I love any kind of alternate history like that. And Mason loves the loopy universe, don't you, Mason? No, I hate it.

That doesn't count. That's only one movie. I hate it. I was going to say the DC universe used to have a parallel universe called Earth-X, where World War II never ended. Is that the one where Superman and Batman are Nazis? No, that's a different parallel universe where World War II never ended. So World War X, the regular superheroes don't exist, but America is being defended by Uncle Sam and the Freedom Fighters.

So the superhero called Uncle Sam, he's the guy from the... He's the guy from the... Has he got the beard and the hat? Was I Want You? No. Is it? Yeah, I Want You. Yeah, that's right.

It's his catchphrase. Is he an old man? Or is he like a real muscular dude? No, he's an old man, but he has... America's belief in him makes him super strong. Oh, no. What was this made? Was this made during a big war?

No, I don't think it was. It was like the 70s. I'm going to double check on that, but I'm pretty sure. It's got a real propaganda vibe to it. Those characters are still around. A lot of the times, though, the comics go... They make a real political message in terms of what's going on at the current time because the captain america during what war was it where he

gave up being captain america because they were kind of against what was happening at that period in time probably the 70s no yeah i think it was vietnam where he became nomad that's right marvel like we're against this and whatever okay Okay, Uncle Sam and the Freedom Fighters first appeared in 1973. There you go. Oh, you know what? They were acquired from a different comic book company. That makes sense. None of it makes sense, Mason.

No, none of it. You're right, none of it makes sense. Did I read, and this is a vague question, so hopefully your super abilities will be able to answer it, but I think I read that there's another, because in my head there are two comic book companies. Sure, yeah. But Nick think I read that there's another, like, because in my head, there are two comic book companies. Sure, yeah. But Nick's told me there's more than that.

There's at least three. Okay, great. And then apparently one of them is about to start their own cinematic universe. Oh, the Valiant universe, yeah. And I've never heard of any of the things. Is that exciting? For me, it is. It depends kind of what they kind of do with it.

I think it could really be. Yeah, it really could be something. Yeah, so Valiancy Universe, it's existed for years and years and years. And some of the characters have been around for... They acquired from like decades. There's a character called Magnus Robotfighter. He's fought robots for many years. Turok, Dinosrok dinosaur hunter these kind of characters

the video game yeah that's the same oh that's i didn't know that yeah turok's been around for like 50 years since the n64 era when he was on that n64 yeah but valiant valiant sort of uh yeah it's a whole bunch of characters that were they were popular uh sort of in the 90s then the company made it went out of business it was bought by a video game company uh then it was then that video game company went out of business and then it was reacquired by just some idle billionaire who runs it now so they're all back that's all it's all up and coming i know valiant have been pushing a lot of like comic book youtubers to talk about their stories to kind of get them to kind of get them out there so they they're, you know,

in a few years, we're just going to get a influx of these, who knows how it'll go, but they've got some great characters. So it could, it could absolutely work. It could be like them. I mean,

like you were saying, the Marvel cinematic universe was, they weren't household names before it started. Exactly. Yeah. It could go that way. I guess if they do it well. You bloody can't escape them.

You're a fan of the Pixar universe and how we found out they're recently all connected and whatever? Yeah, I love that. Is that official? I love any connections. Is it official? I love it. Is it official though?

I think, yeah, because they released a whole lot of information how like Dory's the toy and a different one and whatever and it's all vaguely connected. Like there might be like a picture of the girl from Brave and she's a... I don't know, because sometimes maybe there's storybook characters that exist in that universe. There's a Finding Dory plush toy in Monsters, Inc. But does that mean that Finding Dory is a story in that universe or that that's just a fish plush toy?

It's very much like the Tarantino universe. Right, right. Yeah. Okay. But the Cars universe is bizarre because that kind of stands separately. And isn't there that theory that it's the post-apocalyptic future where the cars have taken over and destroyed humanity? Well, there's no humans.

That's right. There's no humans. So why do the cars need doors? Why do they need any kind of human anything? Because they're cars. You know what I mean? They're cars. They're cars.

I know. There's also a theory that they are like they're human car hybrids like it's a kind of a matrix kind of situation that's how we've evolved beyond human form yeah it's a car like the the the environment is now it's it's a future it's a post-apocalyptic future where the world has been destroyed and humanity can't survive. But the only people who did survive were like street racer type characters who basically lived in their cars. And then science evolved to the point where people were being bred

and then immediately like put into like a car shell so they could. Like a Dalek. Like a Dalek, exactly, yeah. I didn't invent this theory, but I love it. Sounds like you did. It's a great theory. They're not great movies, though, are they? The Cars?

Yeah. I'm not a huge fan. I've missed them. Yeah. The third one looks kind of interesting, but no. It looks like a return to classic Disney movies, which is they're all really sad. Yeah, man.

The third one is Lightning McQueen, who's the main guy from Cars. Yeah. Isn't he horrifically damaged in an accident like yeah something like that it's a rehab movie yeah you hate disney movies i hate them i hate them it's not good all the car then you run of disney movies like you're tangled moana frozen they're all connected in uh in in frozen you see the characters from tangled at at the start, though. Have you guys seen Frozen?

No, I haven't seen Frozen. Frozen's okay. I've heard Moana. Yeah, I watched it yesterday. It's great. It's really good. I've got to check it out. And Tangled is a bit of a gem, a bit of a hidden gem, if I'm honest.

Which one's Tangled? Is that the Scottish? No, that's Brave. That's a Pixar one. I've seen that one. That's a different thing. Yeah, it's a different thing. But they're both Disney.

Yeah, Disney are kind of, they've got Pixar, but they've also got their own animation division as well, which is going on at the same time. And they're all kind of loosely connected. Yeah. I love connections. Have I mentioned that? I've never mentioned that.

It's so good. It's so good. I love a little reference. Absolutely. I read a theory last night about, you Simpsons? Simpsons and Futurama. Right, yeah. And there's an episode where they cross over.

Oh, man, there's a whole comic series where they were together. And there's a theory that in the Futurama world, Farnsworth sends the Simpsons back. So something happens and all the literature comes to life in the futurama world right right and then you know it gets crazy comic yeah and then they send them all back but the simpsons don't go back and maybe he's sent them back in time and that's why the simpsons world is what it is and why there's you know the the springfield in every episode is basically set up differently sometimes their house is next door to the power plant. Sometimes there's a forest in the backyard.

Yeah, George Bush is across the road in a mansion. Yeah, in a mansion which is not normally there. And that's because there's so many different... So they sent back all the different versions of the Simpsons. Yeah, yeah. So there's just heaps of different Simpsons in the Simpsons world now. And they don't age as well. That's right, yeah.

So there's been all different timelines. Like Bart's been born a few different times in different eras yeah and you know homer's like high school's been in different times and right that's a bit that's because every time we watch it it's a different version of the simpsons that's amazing i really like that yeah it's an article from a couple years ago on one of those silly websites but i'll uh like that yeah it's an article from a couple years ago on one of those silly websites but i'll uh oh yeah i should have you'll link it below for people yeah we'll link it below for people we will me and you that's right yeah and family guy's also been one of those universes because there is that crossover that's right yeah and i think that yeah there's crossovers of a bunch of different stuff through the simpsons and then there's that weird stuff like x files ricky's

x files yeah ricky gervais has been on as a character but also as himself yes yeah stuff like that and then yeah so and they're yellow whereas what the hell futurama people aren't yellow so why are they yellow absolutely yeah oh wow that's a really good point look a lot of that was very messy but i've got all these things in my brain exactly what we want get them out get them out on put them on wax forever that's what i say now this isn't so much a shared universe or whatever but i've always found the the men in black movies interesting but they kind of fuck them up quite a bit but our universe is in if you remember the end of that movie our universe is inside a marble in a bag of marbles of other universes right yeah so that's

kind of interesting to me but also we've got tiny universes within our universe which presumably then have more universes within them so it just goes in and out forever uh dude did it blow your mind yeah not really my brain just grew by a millimeter but also in the second one earth is inside a locker in an alien airport or something. Do you guys remember that? I don't remember. They tried to do the same thing.

I've definitely seen that, but I don't remember. They tried to do the same thing because at the start of the movie you see, or during the movie, they open a locker in an airport and there's a whole alien civilization living in there. And then when they open it, they're like, oh, the gods have come to visit or whatever. And then at the end, Tommy Lee Jones is like, watch this. And he opens a door and then it just looks like this giant alien airport. So Earth is also inside a giant alien airport somehow.

So Earth is inside a giant alien airport, but that airport is still within the universe, which is in that little marble. Yep. Levels, man. Yeah. What were they bloody smoking when they wrote that movie am i right am i right adventure base invention of lying i know it's only one movie but that universe is

bizarre so what's what's the reason what's your reasoning behind it being that way have you seen the movie i have i really didn't enjoy it at all same we're all on the same page it's it's a movie that is, it's a universe that's exactly like, it's an earth that's exactly like our earth, but nobody can lie. So how did we get to that point? Yeah. You know what I mean? How would that universe be exactly the same as ours? Yeah.

If you couldn't lie. Also, it's not just lying. It's you say whatever's on your mind. Like you could not say to someone, hey, you're fat. But that's like, when you don't say that to somebody, that's not a lie. You just choose not to be an asshole.

Yeah. Otherwise you'd be saying things all the time. There's a door over there. Look at that screen. There's paper on the table. That's right. Yeah. So that universe is,

I don't think they thought that through. And it also wasn't funny. There was one joke in that movie, I think. What was the one joke? There's one joke. Somebody in the crowd said something. Oh, the mansion joke. It's ADR'd in later, I think.

Right, yeah. What was the joke? They realized they had to add a joke in. Yeah. It was... Technically, this isn't a comedy. It's a war crime. So unless we add...

If we add a joke, though, it becomes a movie. Ricky Gervais' character is inventing the... Or he's giving out the commandments because he invents God in this universe. Because God's not real. God's not real. I don't know if you guys know this, but Ricky Gervais is an atheist.

Has he ever... I haven't picked that up. Yeah. But what is it? So Ricky Gervais goes, when you go to heaven, whatever mansion you think of, that's where you'll live.

And a guy goes, oh, I was thinking of a bad mansion, or whatever. That's the joke. That's the joke in that movie. Yeah. It's good. That's not bad. It's a you'll live. And a guy goes, oh, I was thinking of a bad mansion or whatever. So that's the joke. That's the joke in that movie. Yeah. It's good. That's not bad.

It's a pretty good joke. Maybe we should give that movie another chance. He was also, the two offices are connected. They are. Absolutely. Yeah. He was in, David Brent came to the American office. He meets Michael Scott.

Yeah. So did you guys see the David Brent movie? No. Oh, yeah. I'm sorry. I I mean I like the character maybe I wonder if it was good it's fine

it's okay every time we talk about Ricky Gervais I live in fear that he'll that he'll attack us like he'll find out because of what happened

to your friend oh was it Roland yeah our friend Roland so funny maybe it's somebody else as well. Have we mentioned this here?

You've mentioned it on other podcasts. Yeah, I think so. But yeah, like a friend of ours said something mean about Ricky Gervais. Didn't tag him in. Yeah. But just really just using him for a joke. It could have been any name, I think. I don't think it was really having a go at him.

It was just an example of a celebrity. It was about talking funny, wasn't it? Oh, okay. It was just a... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Need an example of a celebrity. It was about talking funny, wasn't it? Oh, okay. It was very specific. It was very specifically having a go at Ricky Gervais. It was a very, very specific dig. But apparently Ricky... He said...

What did he say, though? It was something like, my dream is not to be Ricky Gervais in talking funny. Talking funny. There we go. You know. Yeah, that is a very specific dig. It's a very specific burn on Ricky Gervais.

But apparently Ricky Gervais but apparently Ricky Gervais searches his name on Twitter and then has a go at people who have a go at him mostly by saying how rich he is

yeah I think yeah it was something like yeah well I made money out of that so questions that's right

yeah yeah what I mean if you're content in yourself and you're rich which well he obviously is rich Do you care if someone's like

I don't like this specific thing you do I wouldn't be searching for it If I was him I certainly would not be searching my name on Twitter That's a good point Because he wasn't tagged in Yeah That would be

If Roland had tagged him in That would be like A bit mean in asking for him to fire back Yeah, yeah But he wasn't He wasn't doing it for him to see it. No, that's right. This was just for Roland's thousand followers or whatever.

Yeah, absolutely. And you know what? It's a great joke as well. Yeah. And I think everyone should try and live that way. Yeah. Matt, do you have any weird questions? Do you have any comic book universe questions?

Oh. Don't have to think of one now. Okay. Yeah, good. We'll segue into one naturally i let in this part out it'll seem seamless when you have a question do you edit much i mean you let it i do a little bit of tweaking no we'll keep this um no yeah mostly i just listen through like when i called harry a nazi because i've been feeling guilty about ever since it's fine

you're absolutely allowed to okay but um what about this while we're treading water uh smallville um and gotham are universes where all the villains and characters in those unit in the batman superman universe exist but the main character isn't who they're supposed to be yet so superman fights all these villains but but he's not yet superman he's still clark kent and in gotham there's a kid bruce wayne but there'sark kent and in gotham there's a kid bruce wayne but there's a version of the joker and there's a version of the riddler and riddler and whatever so it's these bizarre universes where all these things are going on but the main character isn't there have you ever watched any of those series matt i haven't you don't have

to it's not a requirement i'd like they're the kind of things that I love the idea of. Yeah. Yeah. We don't watch it really. So Smallville originally, somebody wanted, originally DC wanted a TV series about Bruce Wayne going around the world sort of training to be Batman, like as a young man. Like I'll go and I'll learn karate from this guy and more karate from this guy and judo from this guy, whatever. But, you know, that is, you have to build a whole,

you either have to film it around the world or you have to build a whole bunch of new sets every week kind of thing. So they're like, okay, well, let's, how about we just take a show and we'll set it in one town. And so they got Smallville, which was Clark Kent growing up in high school just with his wacky friends. But there were some weird restrictions on it. Apparently the rule was they could never show him in the Superman.

Until the very last episode. Until the very last, yeah. So they could never have him become Superman. But at a certain point, they're like, okay, well, we've got to introduce some villains and we've got to introduce some other characters. So in the DC Universe, Superman's supposed to be one of the earliest superheroes,

but in this TV series, we got Black Canary, and we got Cyborg, and we got Stargirl, and we got Owlman, maybe. We got all these obscure... Owlman. Yeah. We got all these more obscure... And Aquaman, and we got all these more obscure... All of whom were in costume and had names, but he was still just Clark Kent, just running about in his t-shirt and jeans.

It was odd. It was an odd series. It was one of the greatest series ever. I don't even watch it. The entirety of the series, he was called the Smallville Blur. Yeah. Wait, the Kansas Blur? Something like that.

Metropolis Blur. It was always called the Blur and he had my called superman the closest he came to the costume before his actual costume was like a black trench coat and like a silver s or something like that and he never flew oh no he did eventually yeah yeah but sometimes someone else would take over his body and then they would fly but then he didn't know how to do it. It's a great show. It's not a good show. But that exists in the same universe, but just not in the same, what do you call them, continuums? Yeah. It's a parallel universe to the existing DC universe.

So what might happen from time to time, maybe in the comic books, somebody will get a glimpse into all the unlimited universes that are out there and there'll be like a little, maybe a little version. You'll see the Tom Welling, the actor who played Clark Kent in Smallville, you might see a little picture of him just to show they're all in the same multiverse. Right.

Yeah. Yeah, go ahead. Does DC kind of have a plan for all that stuff you know like when a show that i did watch was uh lois and clark oh yeah sure yeah with uh terry hatcher and dean kane yeah so dean kane plays supergirl's adoptive father in the new supergirl series and terry hatch is joining as a villain oh there you go yeah but no they're so so they're all connected we should briefly mention that because otherwise people will say i can't believe you didn't mention arrow small arrow and the flash

and that they're all connected they're all one universe and yeah so dc the dc universe um it started as as one universe and then uh they were like there was some there was some continuity issues because like you know uh superman and batman started fighting crime in the 40s and then after like a couple of decades people were like why is it batman doesn't get any older why doesn't this this this and that and uh so they were like well let's say there's two universes so in the first universe which we're going to call Earth 2, Superman and Batman started fighting crime in the 40s. But in the second universe, which is Earth 1,

they started fighting crime in the modern day. And at some point we switched over. So then they were like, so then they're like two universes. And so they're like, and then they could have them cross over. So sometimes the old Batman and Superman would meet the new Batman and Superman. They would go to different universes. They would team up. And it's the same guy.

Yep. But just... A different era. A different era. Yeah. No explanation. They never go back that far. They're like, well, there's two universes and one blah, blah, blah, but but they never explain why so one of them is just current day or whatever the current day yes yeah

that's earth one that's earth one and so then they were like well if we have two of this why don't we have three universes so they invented earth three which is the universe in which all the good guys are actually bad guys so superman's ultra man yeah i kind of like that one and the only hero in that universe is lex lhor, who's actually a good guy. Because he's the only one left. He's the only one, yeah. Everyone else is dead. And then they were like,

well, if we have three universes, what if we have four universes? So they acquired a company called Charlton Comics and they got all their characters. So that was Earth 4. And then there was Earth X, where World War II never ended. And there was Earth S,

which is where Captain Marvel lives. And then eventually they're like, you know what? There's an infinite number of universes. Yeah, there's a multiverse. Yeah, so in the And then eventually they're like, you know what? There's an infinite number of universes. Yeah, there's a multiverse. Yeah, so in the DC universe, they're like, well, there's an infinite number of universes. And then after a couple of years, they're like, this is way too complicated. So they had a crossover called the Crisis on Infinite Earths, in which they erased all

the universes. They destroyed them all, except for one. And then they're like, actually, this is kind of restrictive. So we're going to reintroduce a new system of multi uh a new system of the multiverse called hyper time and then they're like this doesn't make any sense so we'll destroy that and now we'll just say there's 52 alternate universes and then i think they destroyed that some of them got destroyed i don't know how many there is right now if i'm honest with you, I feel like I'm up to date. Yeah, I feel like we're all up to date.

I feel like I get it. Yeah. So it's interesting the difference between how they treat their canon or whatever and Star Wars was just like, we're just going to wipe everything apart from. Yeah, the main movies. The main movies. But they're like, no, we'll write it in where we explode the universe. Yes, exactly.

That's why I always like, that's something I've always really, like it's super confusing like if you tried to cap if you tried to draw out somebody's continuity or their like their life story their backstory it would make no sense but i like the idea that basically what happened is that there was an infinite number of universes and they're like well let's have a villain who gains more power every time he destroys the universe so he's like i'm gonna destroy every universe and so you and then the heroes stop him when there's only one left convenient right that is quite so i like i like too convenient yeah so i like the fact that dc builds that in but at the same time

stop doing it dc stop doing it stick with the universe they're never gonna stop doing it yeah they recently have you ever seen that movie watchman i've seen most of it great that'll do so basically then you're ready for this yeah so the characters from so the characters from earth 4 they were they were rewritten as the characters from watchmen which is a separate universe to the dc universe so they they redrew them and renamed them and they were like okay these characters are now it's a separate like a separate universe and then they created the watchman uh comic book series and then the movie so recently they when they rebooted the dc universe the last time they were like you know whose fault it was one of the characters from watchman he did it he ruined the universe so

we're fixing it the blue guy the blue guy uh dr manhattan correct good yeah you have seen some of that movie correct i was i was really enjoying it looked great it was a great looking movie sure same director as batman superman i don't i'm not surprised you enjoyed it oh hang on how dare you that's uh rob schneider that's correct did you guys know that j Bond is in The Rock? Sort of Oh, I see That's a rumor No, man It's not a...

The Rock is in Sean Connery Yes Sean Connery's character in... Actually, I just realized I did a video on Shared Universe And I've completely forgotten until now Oh, no So you've got two choices Delete that video

Or delete this podcast right now Well, obviously this podcast, yeah That's fair Except for the ad I'll just avoid the ad Yeah But uh no because sean connery's character in the rock is a captured uh mi6 operative who's been in in the u.s for 30 years he got captured on the on u.s soil and they they have his name it's like james mason but maybe that's something like that isn't it but but the idea is that it's a code nameame and he's actually the original James Bond who the British just abandoned.

I love that a lot. I mean, they can't actually do it because they don't own the rights to both, but it's heavily implied. But what if they could? Yeah, that's right. But it's heavily implied. It's the same guy. Yeah.

Which is pretty cool. We just did an episode on Bond. I did it like a month ago and I didn't have that. Which is pretty cool. We just did an episode on Bond. I did it. Like a month ago and I didn't have that. Oh, far out. You know what? But Two Goons is all about, it's about a feeling you get. It's not always about the facts.

You can do an episode on The Rock and then you'll be fine. Yeah. Sink right back in. Yeah. Yeah. But there was that theory as well that all the James Bond universe is connected and it's a different 00 agent. They just kind of re...

He gets killed or retires and then they just... James Bond is a codename and not a... You'd know this, I'm sure. Yeah, I like that about it. Yeah. I think that's kind of fun. But Casino Royale, Daniel Craig Bond stomped on that. So that's not real anymore.

But yeah, that's pretty interesting. But yeah, and I like how they're basically rebooting whenever they bring a new one in. It's kind of like a new storyline, right? Yeah, yeah, pretty much, yeah. And some of the villains carry over and sometimes he was, you know, he'd done certain things from other movies,

but they could very well be. Because sometimes he's married or in some versions he was married. Yeah, the Elsie guy got married. That's exactly it, yeah. Good on him. People are split on whether that was good or not, that movie. Some people say it's the best one.

Some people say it's the worst one. With the worst Bond? Is that right? Yeah, I've read that. I haven't seen it. I've never seen it. It was like basically his first acting job. Yeah.

Didn't he muscle his way in? Yeah. I read two things. He was either getting a haircut and a producer saw him or he was eating chocolate so it's one of those in a commercial in a commercial

I read it like he was just eating chocolate and I was like I think I like the way you do that it's very sexy and dangerous the way you eat that chocolate he was the most famous Australian model the famous male model in the world at the time apparently yeah sexy and dangerous the way you ate that chocolate he was he was the most famous australian model oh no the famous male model in the world at the time apparently yeah yeah i i saw there's a great um bond documentary called everything or nothing maybe you watched it for this yeah probably did

i'm sure he doesn't i'm sure he does an interview where he talks about he just he just burst through it he just walked through past the secretary and was like hello it's me i'm your new bond or whatever all right well i like that but I don't fully... I reckon he's an unreliable narrator. I don't get him. And all he does now, if you ask him, he just talks about all the Bond women he's had sex with since. Yeah.

At conventions and stuff. Reading interviews with him, I'm like, I reckon, I believe you believe this stuff, but I don't know how true it is. Yeah. Indiana Jones might be set in the Star Wars universe. You guys know that? Cause there's R2-D2 and that are carved into a wall in an Indiana Jones movie,

which, and Star Wars took place a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away and droids live forever. So potentially there, there will be some crossover there. And that, what does that mean for Harrison Ford? Exactly.

Well, there is a comic, uh, where Harrison, Harrison Ford, Han Solo and Chewbacca crash on Earth and Han Solo is killed by Indians, Native Americans. And then years later, Indiana Jones goes looking for the Sasquatch,

which is Chewbacca hiding in the woods and comes across the body of Han Solo riddled with arrows. But he's just a skeleton. He's like, this looks very familiar. I'm off on another adventure. So, yeah. I mean, that doesn't count for anything. No, that counts for everything.

Okay, here's some facts about George Lazenby, James Bond. I'm ready. Apparently, Albert Broccoli, Big Brock, first met Lazenby when they were getting their hair cut at the same barber. It then says he later saw him in the Big Fry commercial and felt he could be a possible bond. Doesn't explain what the Big Fry is. So George Lazenby just made up that story?

That's not a real story that he tells? That's amazing. Oh, no. Okay. He was best known for an advertisement for Big Fry chocolate. That makes sense. Okay. So the chocolate was in an ad.

I'm picturing him just sitting at a bus stop. Yeah. There's our guy. That's him. Do people still get discovered like that, do you think? Because you hear stories every now and then, it was just like, oh, sitting on the side of the road. I think that's how Rosario Dawson was discovered.

I remember hearing that. That's why I sit on so many sides of roads. So I don't think it happens anymore. Otherwise, you know. Yeah, absolutely. I'd be Hollywood by now. I'd be it. I'm going to link through a Big Fry chocolate.

I'm going to tell you some facts about Big Fry chocolate. That doesn't sound like a good chocolate. The Big Fry? I remember, does Turkish Delight, is that by Fry's? Anyway, that doesn't matter. Turkish Delight, because they're in the favorites now. They'd be different brands. I think they might have been,

they were brought into the Cadbury universe. It consists of a fondant center in arobed in dark chocolate. Oh, that sounds all right. With a minty taste. In all of those things. I don't know what fondant is. But apart from that...

Like fondue. Oh, like fondue. Yeah. Oh. Is that cheese? It could be chocolate as well. It's a minty cheese. Have you ever been in a party and you get a strawberry and you dip it in your chocolate fondue? Yeah. Oh, is that cheese? It could be chocolate as well. It's a minty cheese. Have you ever been in a party and you get a strawberry and you dip it in your chocolate

fondue? Yeah, that looks good briefly. Do you move in those circles? Yeah, it does, doesn't it? And then you put your keys in a bowl. What era is this? I've got a vague memory, and maybe you'll remember this, where E.T. is in a universe with something as well.

E.T. is in the Star Wars universe, maybe. Because someone ended up wearing a Yoda costume. And he recognizes Yoda. Oh, that's right. And E.T. is in The Phantom Menace. Oh, his race. You see them in the Senate. That's cool.

But also, the Star Wars movies exist in the E.T. universe because you see Star Wars action figures. So, again, it's one of those things. What was that one example you did before? Mad About You. It's the same thing example you did before? Mad About You. It's the same thing. It's the same Mad About You thing. So Star Wars exists,

E.T. exists in the Star Wars universe and Star Wars movies exist in the E.T. universe. Ross from Friends also appears in an episode of The Single Guy. What is that? The Single Guy was Jonathan Silverman who's one of the guys from Weekend at Bernie's and he was a single guy in the big city.

Oh, I wonder how he gets by with it all. Sounds like there could be a lot of great scenarios. He just muddles his way through this. I reckon I've seen that for sure. Was that cancelled very quickly? Was that like a one season? That's got two seasons written all over it. It feels like a two season.

Yeah, you're right. I'm just remembering also, Futurama has a bunch of times where there's Simpsons merchandise. Right. Okay. Yep, yep. So that means that The Simpsons also is a show.

And also, what's the little German student? Gunter. Gunter wears a Futurama shirt one time. So they both, their own television shows exist in the universe. Or they're separate universes where in which each is a fictional universe. Wait. This article I read explains it all. Okay, good.

If only that were in front of us right now. We'll link it below. Right. Both of us. Yeah. Oh, man. Uncle Machete from, sure.

From Spy Kids. You know, you know, the Spy Kids movies. Yeah. I've never really seen them, but there's, they've got this,

like their version of Q. They go and visit Danny Trejo and he gives them all sorts of spy gadgets and they're like, and he's like, go off on an adventure. Ben Machete has his own movies where he just murders a bunch of people.

It's the same. That's the same guy same guy yes that's a funny crossover yeah I like that one a lot that is really good yeah what

yeah I know right yeah well it's they're both Machete movies and the Spy Kids movies are both Robert Rodriguez who did Dusk Till Dawn that we know now

yes so that's very good yeah oh and also Brendan Fraser's character from the mummy gi joe you're gonna say connection not don't say no man it's not a good i would love it if they were all connected yeah that george of the jungle just a wonderful wonderful phrase of us yes if only there were a phrase of verse that'd be so good uh is that all of them

yeah it's every that's every universe yeah inevitably whenever we do this kind of spitball kind of thing somebody always tweets and is like I can't believe

you didn't mention whatever yeah there'd be one because they've downloaded this episode going I can't wait to hear them talk about the Toonieverse

which is the Looney Tunes one which we were not going to do which is in the Michael Jordaniverse yes that's right Larry Bird thank you for mentioning it, Matt, because otherwise people would have emailed it.

If you can't believe that we didn't bring up a certain one, believe it. We're good at that. We're good at forgetting things. All right. Shall we do the next segment of the show? Yeah. Mason, it's called What We Reading.

Oh, What We Gonna Read. And there's a theme song, which we put here. Yeah, that's right. In my head, you actually played it and Nick was just playing dumb all the time. No, no. That's the only editing I really do. I'm doing a thing.

Ba-da-da-ba-da-ba-da-ba Ba-da-da-ba-da-ba-da-ba What are we reading today? Catchy old catchy tunes. Yeah. I like them all. They're all great. Thanks to our guys,

The Brute, The Basilisk, Rackham. They're our guys. Yeah. What have you been reading, James? Oh, man, I've got a thing, don't I, in front of me. Do it.

Talk about it. Didn't I bloody do it? I want to talk about zombies, but it doesn't matter. There was a Darth Maul comic that I read this year. You can talk about zombies. Nah, it's fine.

We'll do another. We'll do a zombie episode at some point. Matt, you're welcome to come back. Have you seen Santa Clarita Die? I watched some zombies. It's a Netflix episode. Yeah, I saw this morning. We can talk about zombies. Nah, it's fine. We'll do another. We'll do a zombie episode at some point. Matt, you're welcome to come back. Have you seen Santa Clarita Die? I'll watch some zombies. It's on Netflix. Yeah, I saw it advertised.

We have a friend in the trailer. Really? Drew Barrymore? No. Timothy Olphant? No. Liv? Do you know Liv?

Do you know Liv? Liv Tyler? No. Yeah, Liv. It's her friend Liv. Doesn't matter. Liv? Yeah.

Tyler? Yeah, I know her. God damn it. She's in the Aerosmith universe yeah that's right is it live or live live

sorry I've only ever seen it written down live Tyler sorry live she'll be listening when she's live yeah live will be listening

yeah there's a there's a Darth Maul comic that's um that's out it's a prequel comic where it's it talks about the training

of Darth Maul and how he came to be and whatever and I read the first issue and it was it's pretty solid i'll probably that's what i read mason nice and matt nice that's what i read if you like star wars i'm ambivalent but all right it's one of those yeah okay what about you guys you guys been watching or reading or doing or thinking about something i watched i watched a couple of things i watched the first episode of riverdale as you did did last week. Was it as sexy as I said it was? It's very sexy. As I'm watching it, I'm like, this is like a Lana Del Rey album come to life kind of thing.

It's just like these young, sexy people having beautiful, dark secrets. And it's just kind of... Matt, do you know anything about the Archie universe? No. Me neither. That's okay. Are they connected to anything else? Yes.

Archie's connected to everything right so i so archie's a character from way back in the day and it's just like he's he's a he's a just a teen going through high school and there's a love triangle because there's betty and veronica and who is who is that jughead in that jughead's in there jughead's he's one of his best friends and he's just he's just a goofy wacky character and he loves hamburgers and there's there's Big Moose and he's a big galoot and there's all these

is Big Moose gay in the comic? no okay so so and there's Dilton Doyley and he's a big old nerd but basically Riverdale

and so Archie's the Archie comics have gone in some real weird directions in the last couple of years so there's so because it's normally

just it's this it's this fun high school universe when you know it's never really evolved so it's like you know archie still wears like he wears like an argyle sweater vest and he's you know he drives this old jalopy which is like this old kind of 1950s 1950s pickup truck convertible thing kind of thing and so it's never evolved but lately they've been doing like there's there's some sort of modern day versions which are kind of quite self-referential and fun like there's a really fun jughead series it's kind of it's like a like a real like modern day what does he wear that crown okay so it's uh apparently back in the day the fashion in like the 50s is you get a bowler hat and you sort of cut the top off and you'd

flip it inside out and it would be like you sort of pinked around it with like pinking shears in this kind of triangle pattern and you'd flip it upside down and become like a crown and so they've had to and so you so he continues to wear this this this fashion from the 50s and it's never questioned um well i'm questioning yeah so yeah so in the 90s there was a there was a this kind of kicked it off there was a there was a archie meets the punisher crossover so if you're familiar with the marvel comics character the punisher yeah that's a weird yeah he's a he's a he's essentially a crime similar to the spy kids versus yeah right yeah he's a man with a skull on his chest carrying dozens of guns who just relentlessly murders people in the mob.

But anyway, there's a, there was a crossover. There was a comic book crossover where he had to go to Riverdale, the track down a guy like a, like a killer who looked a lot like Archie. And so there was some fun hijinks. It's,

it's great because there's no, like they, everybody remains in character through the whole thing. Like the punish is still this relentless murderer and Archie's still a fun teen anyway sounds like a great buddy cop anyway so there's that and then

I guess a few years ago they were inspired by this and they're like okay let's do this let's make it all weird and so there's a comic book called Afterlife with Archie where everybody's undead and there's Archie meets the Predatoread and there's Predator there's Archie meets the Predator at one point

it's pretty good anyway they're just throwing everything at the wall and they're all pretty not all of them but a lot of them are really solid

aren't they yeah yeah and so they've gone with they've made the series Riverdale which is takes the Archie characters

it's the OC it's the OC but it's the Archie characters and there's a murder and there's it's real dark. And Archie had a relationship with one of his teachers. It's a bit sexy.

It's a bit sexy. Archie's problem, see in the comic books, Archie's problem is like he's this lovable goofball and he's not great at anything, but he tries really hard. Like he's this all-American guy who tries his best kind of thing. But in this TV series, his problem is he's got too many options. Like, he's too good at football and he's too good at music and he's got too many abs. Too many women.

Very different. Yeah, and all the women are super... Everybody's super attracted to him all at the same time. Does it have anything to do with the cartoon, the comics? Really? Apart from names? No, they kind of just took I think they kind of

just took a generic like a dark teen drama and they put this Archie shell over the top did you enjoy it though yeah I kind of had fun with it

I don't know it might get more Archie like as the series progresses or less who's to say also I think yeah so in the in the

in the in the first episode of the show Big Moose his character is he's he's a closeted gay guy you know uh and that that's high school sometimes but i think what happened i like to think that what happened is uh on the like they wrote the series bible instead of writing big moose they wrote by moose and it just stuck and they're like all right that alert's fine i don't know it's real sexy yeah it's so sexy sounds real sexy yeah was that was they the

pit did they have a band that did that song about candy yeah the archies yeah sugar sugar that was the first cartoon band ever number one hit in america yeah i don't know who actually did i think it was session musicians there you go That would make a lot of sense. Yeah. Yeah. You know what? I've been, because I know the I've been, what have you been reading segment is often what have you watched

or something, whatever. Or read a letter to. Or even something you're going to read or watch. Because the only, I was just trying to think what it was. We did an episode last week because we take all our topics from listeners. Sure, yeah. And some of them are like, some of them are like Patreon ones and they have to do them.

And this one last week was about My Little Ponies. Oh, right. I saw that on the Twitter. Yeah. How was that? I found it interesting. Like the whole brony world. It's a whole culture, isn't it?

It's opened me up to it. You're ready for it. Yeah, I sort of vaguely knew about it, but it just made me think like, I've got to You're ready for it. Yeah, I sort of vaguely knew about it, but it just made me think like, I got to understand this more. So I watched the first episode of My Little Pony's Friendship is Awesome or whatever it's called. Yeah. Is that the newest one?

Yeah. Yeah, like the one from the last five years. Did you enjoy it? I thought it was, you know, it was... I mean, it was... Yeah, it was... It was exactly what you think it would be. It was sort of what I thought it would be,

only, yeah, it's pretty good. Yeah. What do you think of the culture as a whole? Is it something you're like... Oh, man, I watched this video yesterday about bronies. It's like it was a trailer from a feature film about them. And it's just like changing these guys' lives. It's all these guys, like, I didn't have any friends before

and now I found this community. Yeah, yeah. And I love it. And it's also changing you know it's uh like the expectations of being a guy is you can't watch stuff like that right so i kind of like how they're like fuck it yeah i don't care about the rules yeah which yeah i'm right into that idea well if you like something you're not hurting anybody yeah it's so weird how but they talk about like it led to people getting bullied and stuff yeah the guy suggested it um he's like i i

am i don't know because he's he's a twitter but i think he's like yeah he's like a brony man cool and he's uh he's loving it yeah obviously yeah yeah absolutely yeah good on him man good on all of them but it was also it was like a thing that was the person who wrote the new version of it was a kid when it came out and she loved it okay right but she's made it like it was pretty silly i think in the 80s yeah yeah it was like very fluffy girl yeah yeah but now it's like you know there's it's quite good writing and yeah there's lots of references to all sorts of stuff it's like, you know, there's, it's quite good writing and there's lots of references to all sorts of stuff.

It's more kind of adventure time, I guess. Yeah. I think it's a real, it's a real universe. Did you watch an ep? Did you watch episodes of it in prep for the podcast? No, I've, I watched the first episode after the podcast. What'd you reckon? Cause I didn't know it was coming out.

It was Jess's did the topic. Oh yeah. Yeah. But, uh, yeah, I thought it yeah, I thought it was pretty good. You know what I'm going to be actually watching or reading or listening to? There's an episode of yours that I've been meaning to listen to for ages and I'm going to do it this week. The one about the dude who had the hotel where he murdered people in it.

Oh, man. HHH. Yeah. That one. I'm really interested in. That was full on. Yeah. Yeah.

Because we recently watched an episode of Sherlock that has essentially the same plot. Yeah. I was going to read a bunch of stuff and I'm like, no, I'm going to wait. I'm going to listen to that episode. So. Yeah. Because we recently watched an episode of Sherlock that has essentially the same plot. Yeah. So I'm like, I was going to read a bunch of stuff and I'm like, no, I'm going to wait. I'm going to listen to that episode. Yeah, that was quite a popular episode. Our listeners tend to really like the psycho murderer episodes. They're always the most popular.

Well, true crime is a very popular business. It's a booming industry. Man. Yeah, we've got a few of those. And that one, yeah. I find them fascinating but i'm also like ah man i'm aware these people are around i know right that's the thing yeah like the beat you know the btk killer yeah familiar with that guy no it was just this

pastor who just murdered a whole bunch of people or like all these women and he taunted the police for years and the reason he got found out is because he sent them a disc like he went quiet who just murdered a whole bunch of people or like all these women and he taunted the police for years and the reason he got found out is because he sent them a disc like he went quiet for years and they thought he was dead they wrote an article on it so he sent them a disc with uh with some letters on it and they tracked him back through that wow okay so they got him like years later that's so good because what usual often our ones end with you know them not being famous yeah a jack the ripper kind of situation. Yeah, we did Jack the Ripper.

Oh, you've done that one? Awesome. Yeah, a couple of weeks ago. Oh, cool. And that's just like a little unsatisfying. Yeah, totally. So that sounds like a great. Zodiac Killer, same thing.

Yeah, we did Zodiac Killer recently as well. Man, you're going to run out of killers. Yeah, we are. But people keep sending new ones in. How do you feel about a do you feel about a a mystery that could could end positively like we you did an episode on db cooper where maybe he got away with all the money how do you feel about that i really enjoyed that episode but i would have loved it to have finished with him getting away with all the money for sure yeah exactly that's because i mean in the in my head i don't know how it finishes. So it could have finished anyway.

And now he became, you know, President Obama. It's like, wow, you know, that's a great finish. How did he do it? Can't believe I haven't heard about this since I'm a man. Have you done any prison break episodes? Like the Alcatraz? I did Alcatraz. Oh, man. I'm in for a treat.

You are in for a real treat. How many episodes have you done? We're up to, I think it's 68 this week. Sweet, awesome. What are you going to do next week? We just forgot about it. For the next episode. For that particular numbered episode next week.

Oh, next week. I got that. I put mine to the vote on Patreon. Okay, cool. This is up to, yeah, the listeners decided. And there was a murderer in as one of the options. I put mine to the vote on Patreon. Okay, cool. This is up to, yeah, the listeners decided. And there was a murderer in as one of the options. Great.

I wonder what they'll pick. Is there a sexy option? Yeah, there are all pretty good options. Yeah, nice. Excellent. All sexy in their own way. And one was about a racehorse. Very sexy. Which is in some ways very sexy.

Seabiscuit? I think so. Seabiscuit. Yeah. Good stuff. I also watched the first episode of Powerless. Oh, what was that like? Yeah. very sexy which is in some ways very sexy Seabiscuit Seabiscuit yeah good stuff I also watched the first episode of Powerless

oh what was that like yeah I heard it was a bit it's alright whatever but you gotta like Parks and Rec is the first season

of that season that's pretty shit American Office first season's pretty shit yeah so Powerless Matt is a is a series set in

a DC universe we don't really know which one specifically that's set in a company called Wayne We don't really know which one specifically. That's set in a company called Wayne Security, which is like, that's still recording, right? Yeah, I'm just taking my time. We're good. Yeah.

It's set in this fictional city called Charm City, which is across the river from Gotham. It's one of those ones because, you know. Why not? Why not? And Vanessa Hudgens is this woman. She's a manager. She's just

started work at wayne security which is like a company that makes gadgets to deal with uh like superhero and super villain mishaps so like they'll make a they'll make like an epi pen that counteracts joker venom and stuff like that and so but then but she she goes into this company and realizes they're they're just copying they're, they're just running second fiddle to LexCorp, which is Lex Luthor's company. They're just kind of doing rip-offs and poorly made copies and stuff like that. So she wants to whip them into shape,

but there are a bunch of crazy characters in that place and they've all got personalities. I bet they do. That sounds good. I want to watch that. And they're coming up against her. They're a bloody brick wall. Is it available to normal people

I just stole it off the internet yeah probably so yes it's available to everybody yeah look it's it's

I'm going to give it a couple more yeah it's there's a couple of solid jokes in there there's a train catchers in there

at the start yeah it's pretty good I don't know how many and there's actually a funny we've got the we've got the

replica action comics number one there. One of the best parts about the show is that the opening title sequence is a whole bunch of classic covers and then they cut away to a regular person in the crowd and that's one of the characters in the show. Ah, very good. So Vanessa Hudgens is...

She's probably behind that rock that's been crushed by Superman in Action Comics number one. So after that, it takes a little bit of a dip. But there's some funny jokes in it. Alan Tudyk plays Van Wayne, who is Bruce Wayne's cousin, who runs the company. Like just because Bruce Wayne's kind of busy a lot of the time for some reason. Is Bruce in there at all? We hear the voice of Adam west adam west does some of

the narration so adam west 1960s batman uh yeah thus far we haven't really seen any recognizable superheroes we get crimson fox who is a kind of a very much a d-list character who's been given new powers and a new look so i don't know how many actual d DC superheroes we're going to see in this. How does the old 60s Batman fit into the DC world? Did that happen in any other? In the Lego Batman movie, everything that happened in Batman's life in the movies exists. The memories that he has. So there's phases he's gone through. Which I haven't seen it, but it's in one of the trailers.

So he had quite a camp phase. Yeah. There is currently a Batman 66 comic book series that is the continuing adventures of Batman from the 1960s. So that's pretty good. Comics, am I right? Yeah, it's crazy. Next segment.

I was going to say, powerless is okay. There's some pretty good jokes, but I mean, yeah. Keep at it, guys. I will. You can bloody do it. We've got another segment. I've changed my mind. I'm yeah. Keep at it, guys. I will. You can bloody do it. All right, we've got another set. I'll change my mind. I'm not going to watch it.

Okay. Letters. Classic one was the letters. Oh, letters. We love you. Some letters. But only a take away. I'm going to be here right now.

We're going to do letters. Look at him go. Yep. I can do things. I always pictured. So that's not you who sings those songs no i'd be what we reading one i sing because i just did it in an episode and then someone put music over it yeah but they're all the other ones somebody's made yeah i mean somebody made the one

that yes no it's not me no i can't sing yeah got some letters here mason do you also have a letter i have a letter all right you want me to do the tweets first tweets and then we'll write the letter hashtag weekly planet pod if you want to reach the show. This one is directed to you, Mason, specifically. Mason, how could you say Ghost Rider 2 was good? It's awful. Worse than the first one. Physically hurt to watch.

I know it's one of your favorites. It's a cult classic in your mind. But this guy says that you're wrong. What do you say? I'm saying he's wrong. Next letter. Next letter. Yeah.

Would you like... What do we got here? This is from Jamie chisholm would you like to see a james gunn directed batman film now that affleck has stepped down james gunn who did guardians of the galaxy he did sliver like that yeah i think the good thing about james gunn is he's got his own kind of vision but does that fit within the batmaniverse well we don't know that it's it's in free fall man what are we i don't know yeah you know anything goes at this point like maybe maybe some people you know people have quit

directing the flash movie and maybe that's because they're like we have this you know maybe dc's like we have this particular vision of this universe and you can't don't don't attempt to change it and they're like well i'm out of here but maybe at this point they're like maybe we should just let people do it directors do what they want because otherwise they're just going to keep quitting yeah so i don't know i don't i don't know what they're we don't know what we don't know what they're thinking we don't know what they're thinking what do you think about the idea of just starting again again with the dc universe i think it's a very real people ask us that quite a bit yeah and we're wondering like where we wonder where the jump off point would be you can do the flash point which is

they kind of which is what kind of what we talked about they can just reset the universe the way they have in the comic new timeline keep some of the characters or some of the actors and recast others yeah you could do it that way if they wanted to would that confuse the masses i don't think i think they'd just be like we'd get all of us in here we'd all get it but i don't think people most people really care they're just like there's been like three spider-mans in like 10 years would it be would it be too like an ego thing like you'd be admitting defeat that's all i guess i think it's what i don't think they care what they do whatever makes the money i don't think they give a shit i think they're obviously the creative people would there would be an ego associated with it but the higher it

highs up they don't care don't care at all yeah well maybe that's the key yeah like because dc do that in the comic books they they go okay well this universe is this universe is too complicated we'll erase it start again profitable enough yeah exactly we're you know or this universe is too this universe isn't grim enough we'll make it green the 90s they made it all more grim so great and then they were like this isn't this is too grim we'll pull it back and they reset so maybe that's i don't know there's that's never been attempted in a in a movie franchise before right i probably probably probably has though yeah probably though yeah i mean the terminator universe but that's sure yeah yeah what a world we've seen someone say yeah what's

your letter all right i demand it I demand it. Here we go. Okay. So this is from Townie222. His real name doesn't say. Okay. He's been a big fan of the podcast. That's great. He's found himself in a peculiar situation.

He's a student at Southampton University in England. And for one of his modules this year, the end of year assessment has been changed from an exam to an assessed podcast oh just to make his own podcast as an assessment so he's been a fan of the weekly planet he's a frequent listener of podcasts including do go on oh beer up your mates guys and filthy casuals yeah that's yeah that's right uh only once or twice it's cost my mind to actually start a podcast as each time I realize how much of an effort it must be and that's sitting back and letting the comedic population of Melbourne do the work for me is much easier that's very correct uh so he's got to be assessed on something he enjoys um let's see so he's wondering if we could

dig deep in our vast wealth of podcasting experience and give you some give give him some tips some special tips on what on ways to pass this module a pass is 40 so there's no pressure what's this What's the assessment? It doesn't say. It doesn't say. What's the criteria? I guess he's got to make his own podcast. We don't know what the criteria is.

It can be anything then. Yeah. Sexiness. Sexiness, definitely. Nailed it. Yeah. I think that's one through line between our two podcasts.

Definitely. Yeah. How did you come up with Do Go On? How was, how did that, what was the, were you like, we want to talk about things that we love? Bearing in mind,

Jess and Dave are not here, so you can take all the credit. Oh, I could go Laysenby on it. I'd walked into that office. It's, that was Dave, Dave's idea. He's a, he, we used to write trivia for a trivia company. Right, right. So he'd go on all these sort of, and I actually, I was doing the same thing. That's why he asked me to join in.

And actually I was doing the same thing. That's why he asked me to join in. But we were both working like daytime, looking up trivia and writing questions. I was verifying questions were okay for a TV show. Right, right. And he was writing them. So we'd fall in these Wikipedia holes or, you know,

Britannica holes where you'd click on something and then just fall deeper into this thing and get distracted from your work and learn so much about this topic, which is too much for this one little dumb question no not at all this is great oh yeah that too but then so you um and then so we ended up being like um having all this knowledge and he wanted somewhere to put it right so he's like do a weekly thing like that and then we yeah we yeah, we, I pretty much bring Jess in everything I do creatively. Yeah, yeah. So we, yeah, we thought.

You shared your Raw 2014 award with her. I did, yeah. That's ours. Until the next year she was a runner up in the same thing. That's right. But yeah, so that's how it started. And yeah, we're just, look, we've been doing this. So was it like an accidental passion in a way, sort of?

Sort of, yeah, I guess so. I think it was an idea he'd had for a while. Yeah. There was a Melbourne comedian, Nellie White, was initially meant to be the other host. She died. But she died. She died, yeah.

She died slash decided she didn't want to do it. I can't remember which. Yeah yeah but i think she's still alive so it's probably the other one yeah yeah i mean what a boring story no i don't think so at all i love hearing stuff like that because i think it's good to kind of go well look at what you're already doing and what you like and then kind of build off that yeah i know for us we used to just do this with our microphones yeah let's talk about this shit all the time. Just conversation. I mean, we still had sponsors.

Yeah, we got letters every week and all that. Every week we tried to shill something to each other. Hey, you want to buy this razor off me? Yeah. Throw this balm in. But yeah, so I find Warnock especially has a, I think he has 100% retention rate. Really?

Really, really good. He's got a great trivia brain. So he can go back from... He can remember specific things from episodes as well. Yeah. God, good on him. But I think, yeah, that's why he was keen to do something like this because he just had a brain chock full of all these stories.

Yeah, yeah. And he just wanted an outlet for them. Absolutely, yeah. Yeah, and it's been interesting that people have wanted to listen. Definitely did not expect that to happen. You never do. I think that's a good way to go into it, though, because you don't want to go and be like,

this is going to be a hit, because you're probably going to be disappointed. Yeah, that's true. Podcasting is hard for that. Yeah, it really is. Yeah, I mean, how many excellent podcasts are there that people aren't listening to? So many.

So many we don't even know of because they're not... We're not listening to. Well, maybe not that many if we don't know how many there are. Maybe this is like two or three. Yeah. Yeah. But, yeah, so what's your advice? Anybody?

Well, I think maybe this... I'd say this is more a technical question. Okay. I don't think he has to have a... Maybe you should have specified that, Mason. Yeah, well, look. I don't think he needs to have to have a... I don't think he has to have a... Maybe you should have specified that, Mason. Yeah, well, look. Like, I don't think he needs to have to have a... I don't think it has to chart in iTunes necessarily.

I think he just has to assemble it. Just get it together. Yeah, just get it together. So... A recording device. A recording device would help. Just use Audacity on your own. Yeah, just use Audacity.

Yeah, exactly, yeah. Have an idea of where you're going. That would be a... Yeah. Write some little... Write some notes. Totally. Like, yeah, dot points just to kind of... So if you kind of get stuck you can kind of go back on track you guys

do that as well when when somebody's going on you're always ready to well we'll get out at the title is a it's kind of our our inbuilt way to reign them in that's it exactly so yeah how many people would you say more likely that um the person not doing the report needs to be reined in. Right, right. When Nick's been on, you just can see how, like, he's feeling. I reckon he feels agitated and he's like, I just want to get through this thing I've written to tell you. Stop talking whatever bullshit you're talking about right now. I don't care.

I remember Jess got hung up on She-Hulk. She really did. Yeah, right. Well, I mean, I still think about She-Hulk. We all do. Don't we all? So, what are some tips? What can we...

Yeah, dot points. Find someone who you want to do it with. You can actually even do it by yourself. A lot of people, like, you know, it can be an informative kind of report style kind of thing. Yeah, yeah. Do whatever's in your wheelhouse. If you're be funny if you're informative be that do whatever works for you i reckon a good tip is to try and record it um as if it's all going out live so you don't have

to do much editing that's if you're thinking about it that's right yes you're thinking about it like i can edit this later then you'll make so much editing work that's right yeah just keep going push through but if you're not editing constantly make callbacks to that thing that was going to be cut out so that other person can't edit it out exactly that's what we did on the the Elvis episode you were on when you made an inappropriate joke early yep and then kept calling back to it yeah I'm like well I guess it's in. Yeah. Was that about his brother who died? Yeah.

Yeah. You're a bad bloke, Mason. I know. You're right. Yeah. That's the show though, isn't it? Yeah. Do we have any more tips?

Yeah. I think I don't get too stressed about the audio quality. Initially, at least, you know, if you're not releasing it to the wide public. But maybe polish it up a little. Yeah, totally. Get some stock music. Put it at the start and end. What do you guys think about music under a podcast,

just playing underneath the entire time? I find it distracting. Yeah, don't do that. I don't like to edit podcasts that are really choppy, like really slick. You like a natural... I like it sounding like people are just chatting yeah totally because they are probably yeah mostly yeah yeah so weird to be inside this podcast

it's pretty good isn't it it's good right that's fine is this are we having some sort of a universe crossover that's exactly what this is so cool yeah i guess that's what your network is you're creating the i might have even read you saying that i didn't say it my partner said it but yeah but no that's what what did she say the adventures i'm saying we're creating the great lakes avengers podcasting which is the crap avengers that's off in another state yeah because there are some good podcast networks in australia you know sans pants are doing it mama mia podcast is it. This is just our own kind of... We're the new Mamma Mia. We're the new Mamma Mia, yeah.

That's right. That's it. All right, that's the show, though, surely. Yes. Can we wrap it up? Yes, we can. It's hot in this room. So hot in here.

Yeah. Two people, bearable. Three people, unbearable. I bring a lot of heat. Matt, what do you have to plug? Please. Okay, yeah. Well, I mean, the podcast has probably been plugged enough.

Yep. You should listen to that i'll link it below i think the most recent episode will be about my little ponies which is fun great maybe a good one to listen to would be one of mesa's one he did one about superman yeah and he did one about the marvel universe yes absolutely so they probably i imagine your listeners might enjoy those episodes as a starting point i enjoyed them i. I did too. Like, man, I can't wait to get them back on. And we're going to get you on. It looks like it may be happening.

That'll be really cool. It's not. It's not enough. You've got to commit to it. Yes. Well, I didn't want to sizzle a bit. Oh, okay, good. Oh, I get it.

Well, he says sizzle, but I think it's being uncommittal. Uncommittal? Is that a word? That's fine. That's perfect. Okay, great. Uncommittal. That feels wrong. These are all good words. It's noncommittal, guys. Noncommittal. Uncommittal? Is that a word? That's fine. That's perfect. Okay, great. Uncommittal. That feels wrong.

These are all good words. It's noncommittal, guys. Noncommittal. That's it. Also, earlier you guys said clambering. You meant clambering. I just want to let you know. I said clambering?

You said clambering. I probably did. Yeah, so I just want to let, so if people are going to email in, we know it's clambering. I've said a lot of words today that I think weren't quite right. You had a stellar one up top, though, remember?

And Mason shot you down. Oh, yeah. Was that pastiche? As he has wanting to do yeah that's right yeah we're doing live podcasts

we do go on at Melbourne International Comedy Festival in April four of those you can get a season pass online I think you know

you'd be able to find them if you look for them I reckon and I'm doing a solo show there as well called Pretty Dry the whole run at Chinese Museum

I saw that at Fringe it was great real funny so good to have you there no problem And I'm doing a solo show there as well called Pretty Dry. The whole run at Chinese Museum. I saw that at Fringe. It was great. Real funny. So good to have you there. No problem. There's a couple of superhero references. Oh, really?

Just a couple. Good work. Have you mixed it up since? Yeah, it's even better since then. Oh, you're right. Awesome. All right, great. Well, if you send me some links for those, I'll put them below. Sweet as.

So people can check them out, yeah. Sweet as, Cubber. All you listeners are Australian and they'll understand that kind of thing you'd lost them you'd lost them

Mason do the thing for us yeah look if you want to find us you can find us at weeklyplanetpod on Facebook

and Twitter and Gmail and Bandcamp send us some letters send us some insane fan theories which I enjoy I'm collating them all

maybe we'll have an insane fan theory episode I'm not looking forward to that but yeah it's going theories, which I enjoy. I'm collating them all. Maybe we'll have an insane fan theory episode. I'm not looking forward to that, but yeah. It's going to be great. Let's see. I'm at Wikipedia Brown on Twitter. I'm at MrSundayMovies. If you want to support the show, keep the bloody lights on in this delightful man cave we have going on, Matt.

What do you reckon? You're going to have to choose. Is it a regular room or a fun man cave full of fun? You know, the new bit in my show is making fun of people who have man caves. Yeah, good. So I think you'll like that. I do like it. Anyway, if you'd like to support the show,

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So they're people who listen. They're getting something for themselves and at no extra cost, giving something to you. Correct. That is your classic win-win scenario. I believe so. There is such a thing as a free lunch. Except the bank takes forever to deposit the checks,

as we're still waiting on a few of them to come through. But that's nobody's problem but mine. Yeah. What else? Thank you to the Basilisk and Rackham for all their themes. You can get t-shirts on tpublic.com Yep. That's it. That's it I think. Next week

not John Wick or Lego Batman Oh here's an extra special shout out which I noted down but then I forgot to mention last week, and I nearly forgot to mention this week. It's coming up. Here it is. I'm looking at the thing. It's coming up.

It's probably an edit point in here, but don't worry about it. I'm ready. Just leave it in. Our friend Andrew at Free Cheesy Bread on Twitter, he got a Grab Dat Gem tattoo. Holy shit. That is the dream. oh man imagine uh we did a whole episode over some reason saying grab that phlegm grab that phlegm oh yeah and uh weird coincidence yeah it was weird because i don't know how many listeners would have had any idea what that meant but So that's the second Grab That Gem tattoo that's in the wall.

Oh, that is amazing. That is so cool. Oh, look at that gem. So shiny. Very good. I'd get that if Harry's would pay for it. Absolutely, they will. All right, great.

I'll do that. I'll tee it up. And what appears to be above it is the tattoo above it appears to be some sort of front-loading washing machine that's spilling over. That makes sense to me. Can you get back to us and explain what that is? That's like a real wave coming out. Yeah, it's like the great wave coming out of a washing machine that's spilling over if you get back to us and explain what that is so that's like

a real wave coming out yeah it's like it's like the great wave coming out of a washing machine maybe that's what it is i love it anyway oh can i do one other thing a guy just tweeted at me uh yesterday he started up a do go on subreddit oh you know what that means we've got one that we don't understand as well so yeah but it's slash, it's whatever the start bit would be, slash do go on pod. Yeah. So we get a lot of listener requests and just conversations starting up. I love the idea.

Yeah. Because Reddit is a world I do not understand. But I love that I've got some sort of a toe in there. Great, right? Some sort of a toe. If you ever need Reddit to do anything for you, like if you ever need Reddit to cyber bully Anyone en masse

Perfect Perfect And I often do Yeah that's right Awesome Alright thanks guys For listening Thanks for coming in Matt

Thanks for coming on Hey thanks so much For having me This has been a bloody Dream come true For all of us Yeah Grab that gem you guys

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