The Weekly Planet - 188 Wonder Woman is...

Episode Date: June 5, 2017

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Visit planetbcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Weekly Planet Official podcast of comicbookmovie.com Where we talk movies, comics, TV shows episode of The Weekly Planet, official podcast of ComicBookMovie.com, where we talk movies, comics, TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday. With me is always my co-host with the splitting headache, Nick Mason. Nearly didn't make it, but I pushed through, because I love two things.

I love speaking about comic books and movies and TV shows, and also I love... That's three things, but go on. Taking drugs. Okay, yeah, sure. With the very thin premise that it's going to fix my headache. Has it? Yeah, I took a lot of cocaine just earlier.

Good, excellent. Well, that's great, Mason. You've also got a loot crate there that you're going to open for this week. I do, I'll crack it right now. While you're cracking that open, I'm going to give you the first bit of news. There's a Rocket and Groot Q-Fig. That's pretty good. It's very nice.

I like it already. All right. Good start. Hang on to that for a second. Okay. How's this for a I like it already. All right. Good start. Hang on to that for a second. Okay. How's this for a title? Top Gun Maverick. Top Gun sequel.

Top Gun colon Maverick? Colon Maverick. What do you think? Would you, okay, before- The Maverick solo film we've always wanted. Wasn't the last one a Maverick solo film? There was also a goose. There was also an Iceman.

Is it a prequel? No. It's a modern day sequel. Is it a prequel? No. It's a modern-day sequel. Is it? Tom Cruise in it? I can give you what Tom... Wait. First of all, before we get started there,

would you see a movie called Top Gun Colon Maverick? And basically it's about the world's best proctologist. I absolutely would. He's a Top Gun Colon Maverick. He doesn't play by all the rules, but he will clear that colon out for you. What do you reckon? Well, I'm all about that.

Yeah, good. This is what Tom Cruise says. Imagine a Tom Cruise face and gun fingers. Okay, he's doing the gun fingers in the air. He's shaking them. Yeah. We're going to have the same tone we had from the first one. Really?

Oily. Yeah. Stylistically, it's going to be the same. We're going to have the same score from Harold's name. Aviators are back. The need for speed. We're going to have the same score from Harold, his name. Aviators are back. The need for speed. We're going to have big, fast machines. Gunfingers. Nice. Okay, great. What do you think of that?

I don't think you've not seen Top Gun. I've not seen Top Gun in its entirety, no. So I'm the most unqualified person. I don't know. They'll put them in new planes, I guess. Totally. Do you reckon this will make a lot of money? Yeah.

Yeah, it will. Well... Do people unironically love Top Gun? See, that's the thing. I don't know if people... Like the way that people love Commando. You know what I mean? Oh, no, I don't think it's on that level, right?

It's just a fine... It's a pretty fine action film, right? I would say... But people know Top Gun more than they know Commando. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Well, I guess the question would be, in terms of it doing well, will it do

as well as most Tom Cruise movies do, or will it get a boost because of Tom Cruise and Top Gun? I think, well, not all Tom Cruise movies do super well. Like the Jack Reacher's never gonna stop punching people in diners. That did not do well. That's true. Like, what was the one he did?

There was another one he did. Oh, yeah, like even that Edge of Tomorrow didn't do, even though people liked it, it didn't do super well. But I think these two things together, if they promise the insane stunts of a Tom Cruise film a la The Mummy. Oh, yes. But with the action of Top Gun, then, yeah, I think it'll do. That's true.

Like, he's graduated from just action of Top Gun, then yeah, I think it'll do. That's true. He's graduated from just being in Top Gun where he's there and saying stuff while action happens. He's the Top Gun. To walking on wings and hanging off the sides of planes. I guess, yeah. You know what? Now that you brought that up, I'm kind of on board. Okay. He's hanging off the side of a bomber or something.

He's leaping into a Tomcat. Because the idea also behind that original Top Gun was... You know, it's just struck me that his couple nickname with Katie Holmes was Tomcat. Yes. And in Top Gun, he flies the F-14 Tomcat. So you know the plane. Yeah, I know the plane. But you don't know all the abs.

Correct. All the oily abs. Yeah. Look, I know he could be my wingman anytime. Sure. But that's all I know the plane. But you don't know all the abs. Correct. All the oily abs. Yeah. Look, I know he could be my wingman anytime. Sure. But that's all I know. No, but I mean, it was a, I say it's a semi-realistic look at aviation. And, you know, like Mission Impossible is a slightly higher altered reality.

Yeah, that's true. I'm not saying Top Gun is realistic. It's not. What? It's practically hot shots. Yeah, that's true. Exactly, isn't it yeah well see i know yeah i know uh basically the plot of uh top gun because of because of hot shots right right but

no i think uh there's absolutely room for this i'll see it despite not being a massive top gun fan i don't have the steel book um or any or any of those things but sure why not i'll watch a bloody Top Gun film, I guess. What's the what have we got? Well, the theme this week for the Loot Crate is Guardians. Of? Just Guardians. Just Guardians. Just Guardians, yeah. Just Guardians General. So, the Q-Fig

That's from Guardians of the Galaxy 2. Nice. It's a little rocket and a little Groot as the top looking grumpy. Very good. I like those ones. I like the Q-Figs, man. Lil Goonies T, very excited for this one. Not a fan of the movie, but I do like that T-shirt. Right?

How good is it? Goonies never say die. Looks very nice. Is that too big for you? Yeah, I think you can wear them all. That might be mine, yeah. They both have Weekly Planet on them. Hey, come on. That's right, cough directly into it.

What are you going to do about it? Anyway, continue. Producer Charles Roben has said this about Aquaman. We're very light on news this week, guys, by the way. That's right. Just so it's clear. Wonder Woman's kind of cleared the space. I think there might have been three or four Spider-Man trailers,

but who knows at this point. Yeah, I got a new one before Wonder Woman this week, and there was even more footage. There was even more new footage. Initially, it seemed like an old trailer. That's so weird. And I'm like, oh, okay, I can watch this one. Yeah.

And then there was more new footage in it. I don't understand. Because we never get trailers on time here. Yeah, right. You somehow manage to see a new one. I don't know. Yeah. Anyway, producer Charles Roven has said,

Aquaman is definitively set after Justice League and will reference that film because he says a movie between Batman, Superman and Justice League wouldn't work. I don't really feel that that's... Yeah, I mean, is that a surprise to you at all? No, not at all. To you at all? What would you even fit in between these movies?

It's just him being a prick in the water, just drinking, just being a real drunk? Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah, I mean, I'd watch that. Me too, right? He seems mean and I enjoy that hey good on him that no that's actually that's what i'm looking for looking forward to i like jams one it should be it should should be a real fun time that's enough of that story it's a non-story i shouldn't have put it in but you

were light on news i was light on news what are you gonna do exactly yeah Here's the news. Okay. Here's the news. The Rock and Angelina Jolie are rumoured for the Dark Universe universe. You know, the universe that's all the monsters, all the universal monsters. The Rock and Angelina Jolie, you know what that means. How do you feel about that? That The Rock is in every movie. Yeah, but do you think they suit those roles? Last time the Wolfman, because wasn't the idea behind a Wolfman

is that he's a regular man, but that he turns into a big Wolfman? But he's kind of already a big man. Is he just, like... Oh, was that the rumour before? Have we spoken about this before? I don't think we have. Okay, right.

Maybe. I don't know. Yeah, I would assume that when I think of the Wolfman, I would... Oh, actually, that's not necessarily true. Like, remember the last version of the Wolfman? Who was it? It was... Benicio del Toro. Benicio del Toro and Anthony Hopkins. Yeah.

And they feel kind of... I actually like the idea that The Wolfman, even in their human form, is kind of large and threatening. Okay, right. Like, and you go even... Like, they've got some wolf-like aspects. I'm trying to think of the name

of the Jack Nicholson Wolfman film. Wolf. Was it just called Wolf? Because he was a bit threatening, wasn't he? That's what I'm talking to think of the name of the Jack Nicholson Wolfman film. Wolf. Was it just called Wolf? Because he was a bit threatening, wasn't he? That's what I'm talking about. Yeah. I like the idea of that. But I think also The Rock goes too far into that.

Right. We've talked about that before, where some roles he just might be too big for. Like he's going to be the big trouble and little China guy. And it isn't one of the appeals of that original character is that he talks about being the strongest and best man in the world. But he's just some idiot in a tank top. Yeah. Exactly. But The Rock might be the strongest and best man in the world.

Yeah. I mean, in a pinch, he could just lift the truck and put it on his back. Yeah. And just walk through Chinatown. That's it. You know? Yeah. But hey, if he wants to get on board, fantastic.

Yes. And Angelina Jolie, I mean, we talked about this last week and we settled on Eva Green. Yeah. Yeah, Angelina Jolie 100% works as well. I don't know whether she'd do it. Does she do this kind of stuff anymore? Last kind of commercial film she did was maybe Maleficent. Yeah.

Yeah. Did anyone like Maleficent? I didn't. I think some people liked it. But Disney, I think, learned a lesson that people don't want dark and gritty reimaginings prequels

for all their villains well hopefully she hasn't discovered that people don't like dark and gritty reimaginings and she'll do Bride of Frankenstein but it's monsters man

I'm all for it I am looking forward to The Mummy I've heard it is it's got some genuine scares in it so I'm like okay I'm up for this dark universe

I don't like genuine scares you don't like genuine scares? you like being safe correct don't like genuine scares. You don't like genuine scares? No. You like being safe. Correct. But speaking of genuine scares, there's talk that Warner Brothers might sue Universal for using the term Dark Universe because we talked about this last week,

their Dark Justice League movie was going to be called Dark Universe. Universe, right. It shouldn't be called Dark Universe, though. No, it absolutely shouldn't. Call it Justice League Dark or Dark Justice or some variation on that. I get the sense. I reckon they're, because we haven't, there's been no press release or any, like there's been no DC press release or any official, you know, that I don't think they've.

I think they announced the title. I think that was pretty much it. But I would, my guess would be they hedged their bets and they went we're going to call it either dark universe if justice league tanks yeah or we're going to call it justice league dark if people love it right and so i think they're like we wanted both options to be open and you've taken one from us you do you think they could do dark justice though uh is that a bit kind of like it sounds like a tv series it sure does like yeah like dark angel yeah but no again i think they could again if justice league is well received i think they'd

be happy to throw dark justice or any combination of justice league dark or what have you but if they if it doesn't i think they're going to be like justice league dark what about dark dark justice league doesn't work does it no i hate that I hate that. Yeah, that's not good. Yeah, but I don't know. Do you think they'll probably just reach some kind of agreement? You know, I doubt this is going to go to court on any level. It's also, it's not like Justice League Dark isn't called Dark Universe. So you couldn't really definitively say we have the,

unless they may have the copyright on it, they could very well, but I don't know. No, I don't like it. Dark Universe. It doesn't even, like if it were Dark Cosmos or something, it would be like, well, that's DC. It makes sense. It's weird also, like Dark Universe, the Dark Universe universe.

This is getting confusing. Yes. It's weird that that's not called the Universal Monster Universe. Right, exactly. Because that's what it is. Yeah. But I don't know. I guess they want to go with a trendier, edgier title. I saw an interview with Tom Cruise on the 7pm Project.

He was incredibly enthusiastic. He wouldn't answer who would win in a fight between him and Russell Crowe. Wait, is it still called that? What? The 7pm Project? Whatever it is. It's called the Project. I don't know what it's called.

Look, I saw it on YouTube. I don't actually watch it. It seems fine and fun and everybody on it is probably fine. It's always on YouTube. I don't actually watch it. It seems fine and fun and everybody on it is probably fine. It's always on Facebook. But first of all, they asked him who would win between him and Russell Crowe in a real fight and he refused to answer because they're friends. That's a cop-out. That is a cop-out, exactly.

Also, Crowe would crush him. We talked about this though. He's little and scrappy. Yeah, true. Yeah. I think it would depend on which of his it would depend on on which of his scientology friends was watching i think like it was just a i think it was if it was a fight in like a back alley i think crow would have him right cruz would be like all right you got me kind of thing but if

i think if his scientology pals were all around him he'd be like i cannot lose yes i'm i'm the biggest winner in history so i'm gonna keep going yeah going. But no, he... What was I even going to say? They asked him how many they're doing, and he's like, we're doing a lot. So, I mean, depending on this one being good. Oh, they'll do at least two, I'd imagine, and then we'll see what happens from there. But speaking of the Dark Universe universe, not the Dark Universe Justice League movie,

they also said that there's news that Blumhouse, who did paranormal activity the purge and get out they might be doing the uh like lower budget films in the series okay you'll get your mummy which is like a 150 million dollars or whatever it is and then they might do like a what's that creature from the black lagoon and do it for 30 i like that just do it in a local aquarium yeah that's right exactly but i like that i'm like not every one of these needs to obviously be 200 million dollars yeah right the same way that not every marvel character needs to have its own movie they can yeah be a tv show or whatever they can even it could be so there's a there's like a role-playing game i don't know if it's still around but like back in

the day there was a role-playing game it was called the white wolf universe right and it was set in it was set in the world of darkness which is like our world but everything's a bit worse kind of thing and like so you could you know and so there were like werewolves and wizards and changelings and or vampires and what have you but also the rest of the world just kind of grotty and ruined as well and so that like that kind of works in the sense that you can have the frankenstein and the wolfman and the mummy and all that sort of stuff but just a movie about a psychopath that lived that hangs out in the dark universe. Yeah.

Who's just like, who's heard about this and is just like, I'd like to do some murders too if I wouldn't mind. I love murders. I love murders. Yeah. No, I'm bang up for that. And they've got a pretty good, like, Blumhouse, you know, they make decent films for what they are.

I'm not a paranormal activity guy, but Get Out obviously speaks for itself The Purge I saw the second one I enjoy it I like the premise more than I think

I enjoy the movies themselves but they're solid enough kind of horror movies how does The Purge work? there's a whole lot of I don't know do you mean logistically?

yeah logistically it's a whole thing I don't know I don't want to get into it how often is The Purge? Is it once a year? Once a year, yeah. Okay, right.

It's yearly, yeah. Are there a lot of people that hold grudges from the previous Purge? I'd imagine so, yeah. Yeah, right? Are you not allowed? The first movie, which I think kind of, the premise is kind of squandered a bit because it's set in just a house and they go after Ethan Hawke's family who he deals in The Purge like security systems for homes.

Right, sure, sure. So, you know, you look out the window and you see your neighbour sharpening an axe and then you put down a steel wall. Put down the axe-proof window shield. Exactly, yeah. But the second one, it's about like a couple and a bunch of other people getting stuck on the street

and Frank Grillo, Crossbones, who's going out to do some purge because he's got one guy in particular he wants to kill. He helps them get through the city. Huh. Yeah, which it's... Okay, that's fun. Yeah, it's fun.

It's real fun. Sounds real fun. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, what's next, Mason, in the box of... What's next? I don't know how this relates to Guardians, but I'm enjoying it a lot. It's a Star Wars mindfulness coloring book.

Coloring books are back in a big way. They're back in a big way, right? I know several people who are on the coloring book bandwagon. The coloring book tip. Yeah. So, look, they've given me all the classic Star Wars colors. I think that's brown. A nice...

Yeah, an Obi-Wan robe brown. A nice cornflower blue. They've given me all the lightsaber colors. Yeah, yeah. SoWan robe brown. A nice cornflower blue. They've given me all the lightsaber colors. Yeah, yeah. So let's see. Is it Star Wars throughout the ages or is it just like Episode 7? It's like an assortment. So we've got a nice 1970s Han Solo.

A young Han Solo. Doing a loosey-goosey blaster grip. My fave. But then we've also got kind of of like some abstract like repeating patterns. Oh, very good. A bit of this. A bit of... Ah, okay.

A bit of... Are you going to give that a go? Yeah. I wish I had time to do that. Is there a general gross? A general gross? Yes. Did you say dark universe?

Is that what you said? No. Oh, I can use my light green to colour in this death star. So good. It comes with a little pencil and a little sharpener. It's good to just... Oh, it comes with a sharpener. Yeah, it's good to just, you know,

just open your mind and bring peace to your thoughts by colouring in the universe's ultimate death machine. That's always good. Anyway, good time. I believe so. Good stuff. And then I can draw some C3PO's Hayley Steinfeld

is to star in the Bumblebee spin-off titled Bumblebee colon Maverick nice no I don't know

what it's called but she's from this one's nice that's a Yoda it's a Yoda it's got a little Dagobah kind of situation yeah yeah I see what's going on

I remember when he did that in the movie yeah yeah hayley steinfeld you familiar with her she was the young woman in that western true grit yeah and now she's a pop star i think is she yeah okay she does like all the pop songs his is generally speaking if i hear a song on the radio it's got a female vocal and it's not like nikki min or Ariana Grande or Demi Lovato. Right. Or one of those. It's Hailee Steinfeld. Okay.

Yes. I did not know she was also a pop star. Correct. I saw Edge of Seventeen recently with Woody Harrelson. Yes. Where he plays a teacher. It was fun. It was a fun kind of teen fun time of fun.

Nice. Anyway, Bumblebee spinoff. Great. Sounds great. We played a terrific Transformers we won't spoil what Transformers game for Caravan of Garbage

coming up in the next few weeks isn't it oh boy what a treat yeah speaking of the one from this week was we did Mortal Kombat

versus DC Universe that's right that's up already because we tried to find a Wonder Woman game and it turns out there aren't none no and I did mention

that in the video my review of people like what about Injustice I meant solo game and it turns out there aren't none no and i did mention that in the video my review of people like what about injustice i meant solo game and also crap if you give like a crap one like injustice is quite good that's true exactly no i don't i quite like mortal kombat dc yeah i think it's i enjoyed it at the time yeah but in looking back yeah no, no, having played because I bought Injustice 2 recently. That is a stellar game. Yeah, right. So yeah, no, that's good.

Good. Hayley Steinfeld is doing good. Great. Mason, have you watched Sin City 2 yet that you've got loaded on your iPad ready to go? Why would I have? Don't bother.

Oh no, why? Because the Sin City reboot TV series is happening. It's going to hue closely to the graphic novels. Their words. I thought you were going to say it's starring Hugh Closely. I'm not familiar with Hugh Closely. 1960s heartthrob Hugh Closely.

No, he's not real. But also it's a far departure from the films introducing original characters into the timeline. What do you think of that, Mason? A reboot set in the Sin City-iverse. So none of your actors are back, but all the characters are back. None of the actors are back, but some of the characters are back. Huh, okay.

I reckon very few of the characters will be back. But that's the thing. Okay, I reckon very few of the characters will be back. But that's the thing. Like, I think, again, because that film and just the comic is so stylised, it would be weird to put, say, any other actor in the role of Marv. Right. But this is a reboot, so they're going to have to.

Like, I guess you could put in, like... Ron Perlman? No, the other one. The other Ron guess you could put in like... Ron Perlman? No, the other one. The other Ron Perlman? He's like Ron Perlman. Gary Busey? No. Gary Shandling? No, he's in Lord of the Rings.

Gary Sinise? No. Michael Ironside? No. He's the little... He's the hobbit in Lord of the Rings. Gimli? No.

Frodo? Yeah. What's his name? Elijah Wood. Elijah Wood. That's the other Ron Perlman. The Yeah What's his name? Elijah Wood Elijah Wood That's the other Ron Perlman The other Ron Perlman is Elijah Wood No I'm kidding

No I was just thinking Elijah Wood Because Elijah Like Elijah Wood is like that The killer The Charlie Brown-esque Yeah All grown up killer Like I guess you could replace

Elijah Wood with somebody else Because the character never really speaks Right And the face is Like the glasses are the centerpiece of that character right yeah but everyone else you can't really so that character's real dead right well it's a reboot mason yes yeah i don't know yeah all right i guess there's more you know what there's more stories to tell in that universe yeah and again we've probably reached the point where there's a

sin city filter on adobe premiere or whatever i bet it's real cheap and you can just flick a switch and everybody's in Sin City. You can film the entire thing on green screen. They didn't build anything. That's true, yeah. I guess you could reuse all the old Sin City sets, and by Sin City sets I mean green boxes

and also CGI models. Yeah, I think the only set consists of you hold a steering wheel, and there's no car, nothing. That's right. You're on a rooftop too, it's real set consists of you hold a steering wheel. And there's no car, nothing. That's right. You're on a rooftop too. It's real weird. You're on a bloody rooftop.

There's more stories to tell in the Sin City-iverse. Have you read much of Sin City? I can't remember whether I have. I feel like I have, but I don't really remember it. Yeah. Anyway. Is there a channel attached to that

a network or a cable channel I can't remember what it is but it's not like NBC or something it could very well be but I don't think it is

holy moly let me have a look at that in the meantime I'll tell you what else is in here we've got a bloody some Destiny patches you ever play Destiny

no but I'm thinking of getting two the universe to me looks great yeah and I wish I cared enough about shooters. Well, it's a whole bunch of other stuff,

but I've heard one has a lot of unfulfilled potential, so I'm hoping two is going to kind of meet that. I've also heard the patches are also quite good that make it much better. This literally is patches. Oh, very good. It's three patches. Very good, Mason.

But yeah, I don't know, because whenever I see a trailer for it, I see like all the, they're sort of Guardians of the Galaxy-esque characters, like, you know, like weird armored heroes and all this sort of stuff. It looks fascinating to me. So I want to get in that universe. Okay, good. Well, you'll need a PlayStation 4 or something like that. You're going to get one of those or what?

Yeah, at some point. Okay, this is from, oh, the Wine Sand Company are doing it. Okay, right. Oh, that makes sense. They you going to get one of those or what? Yeah, at some point. Okay, this is from the Wine Sten Company. Oh, I had it. Okay, right. Oh, that makes sense. They maybe did the last one? Yeah, and it seems like something they would do. I have no idea. Speaking of, there's a fan theory on the internet,

speaking of universes and gritty universes, that the Gotham universe, the TV series Gotham. Yeah, which people keep saying it's good. People keep saying it. But apparently the last couple of seasons are super grim. And the fan theory is that this isn't, this isn't the universe of Batman. This is the Earth 3 universe

where everybody's evil. So this is the origin, not of Batman, but Owlman. Okay. Right? So Bruce Wayne becomes, though is Owlman Bruce Wayne?

It depends on the version. So some versions of Earth 3, Bruce Wayne dies, and it's his brother, Thomas Wayne Jr., who survives, and he becomes our man. But in some versions, it is Bruce Wayne. He's just a prick for some reason. Cool. Yeah, right?

I'm bang up for that. Yeah, me too. I'm not going to watch the rest of the season. But if they introduce our man, I'll tune in for that one. Right, exactly, yeah. That's very interesting. It's probably not, because fan theories often turn out to be the rest of the season. But if they introduce Owlman, I'll tune in for that one. Right, exactly, yeah. That's very interesting. It's probably not because fan theories often turn out to be... Often wrong.

Yeah. And also how are you going to... But also often better. And also how are you going to introduce Owlman and not have everybody laugh very, very hard? Yes, that's true. Well, Batman had to start somewhere. Yeah, I guess so.

I mean, you have to have the scene where he's at his fireplace contemplating how he's going to scare a superstitious and cowardly lot of criminals, and an owl gently floats through his open window, just sort of glides in and sits there, and he's like, oh. Does the head spin? Yeah. He's like, interesting.

Turn the neck. And then he turns his whole head around. Yeah. I don't know. I feel like Universe is due for a time jump. Yeah, I agree. To, like, modern day-ish. Well, I wouldn't mind seeing a Bruce Wayne training around the world the world kind of we've talked about this before kind of movie but

whatever yeah i mean we've got that movie i mean sure who cares yeah i know you said anything to watch before we get started and i said no but then i realized that there was the murder on the orient express oh i did say that on my own yeah that right. What did you murder on the RATX? Boy, they sure had some strange facial hair back in the day, didn't they? Didn't they? Yeah. So it's an all-star cast. Yeah. Johnny Depp as the guy who's been murdered.

Yeah, nice. Okay, good. Helen Miriam. No, the other one. Judi Dench. Judi Dench. Daisy Ridley. Josh Gad.

Yeah. I can't remember. Kenneth Branagh. Kenneth Branagh, also directing. This actually has taken the release. Well, that Josh Gad. Yeah. I can't remember. Kenneth Branagh. Kenneth Branagh, also directing. This actually has taken the release date schedule of Fantastic Four 2. Huh. Right, okay. Remember that one?

Yeah, the perfect antidote to Fantastic Four 2. A murder on a train. Now, having not seen the original, or there's been a few adaptations of this, or read the book that it's based on, do you think they're going to keep the same killer? Bearing in mind, I don't know who that is. So please don't spoil it for me. Okay, right.

Oh, that's a really good question. Yeah. Because I'd imagine a lot of people going into this would know or would look it up. You know, that didn't occur to me. Because you're a dummy, Mason. Yeah, I know, I'm a dummy. I never would have figured out who the murderer was.

I'm not the greatest detective in the world, as Poirot points out. Also, he doesn't say, I am the greatest detective in the world. He says probably or some variation on that. If you think you're probably the best detective in the world, you're not because you're not sure of it. Really? Okay. That's what I'm saying.

If he was the best detective, he'd know. And even if he is and he doesn't know, then he's not. Or he is. I don't know what I'm saying anymore. Go on. I think you could say you probably are and actually be, but that's... Okay, fair enough. Yeah.

They'd have to go through some weird plot gymnastics to make the murderer in the book not the murderer. Do you know who the murderer is yes okay right yeah but well i mean it's not even that it's just they'd have to you couldn't just go okay well everybody assumes it's this character because they've read the book yeah and then be like but instead all the evidence points to this person i think you would have to do some sort of fake out where you think it's the original killer right then it't, or they aided and abetted the real killer or something. Okay.

I don't know. Or time travel. But do people even watch these movies? Or time travel, I said. Or time travel, yeah. That's a good point. Go on. That's maybe.

Do people even watch these movies to be surprised? Like, who's going to this? Is it people who are very familiar with the work of Agatha Christie and they just want to see Kenneth Branagh act the heck out of Hercule Poirot. You better believe it. That Belgian bastard. Or is it a new generation of people who will bang up for a mystery on a train all of a sudden?

Well, I think the way they've cast it, they're banking on both. Or is it for fans of Source Code? It might be. Who want that time travel we were talking about. Yeah, it's very possible. I mean, you look at the cast, though, it's a mixture of, like, you've got your Dame Judi Dench,

but then you've got your Daisy Ridley. So I think they're just trying to hit everybody. So I think that's actually quite smart. Also, Kenneth Branagh is a good director. So I think there's a very good chance that this is going to be pretty solid. Probably the best. Oh, the best. Christy Detective, whatever.

I reckon people are upset that it's a different Poirot as opposed to, you know, the Poirot. He doesn't look like Poirot from the TV series. It's weird. I've never seen this. Like, I don't know. Because I watched so much British TV growing up. Yeah, right. It's always British TV in my house.

So many murder mysteries. So many The Bill. So many murders in the midsummer. How do they have time to slowly row a rowboat on a small polluted lake when there's so many murders happening in the midsummer? Oh, good questions. I could sing you the Rumpole the Bailey theme song, Mason. If you could.

Rumpole, Rumpole. I'm not going to do it. But yeah, no, great. Good. You bang up for it. We'll see it. Yeah, I'll probably watch that, yeah. Do people want an episode on that? I almost certainly know.

We're doing it. Okay, great. Now, let us know on Twitter and Wikipedia Brown at MrSundayMovies if you want a bloody episode on that. Or an episode on Rumpole of the Bailey. Yeah, but God, no. Or an episode of Yes, Prime Minister. Or Pie in the Sky.

Or Heartbeat. Or Yes, Minister, the prequel to Yes, Prime Minister. They're both really funny, those shows. Yeah, they're funny. They're funny shows. Yeah, yeah. All right. Or The Young Ones.

What's that one of the old retired detectives? I hate them. New tricks. Oh, right. Okay, I've not seen that. Because they're all shit detectives I haven't seen it yeah

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It'll make some coin. Yeah. But it seems like that on the back of, it seems like universally positive reviews, it's going to make over a hundred million. Now that's pretty good, right? That's really good. Yeah. That's, that's, I mean, I don't think it, it won't be as high as Batman Superman or Suicide Squad, but that's still.

But that's ultimately the fault of Batman v Superman and Suicide Squad, isn't it? I, wait't it? Wait, it's not going to be as high, I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. It's their fault. It's their fault that they ruined the concept of going to the movies to see a superhero film. People are like, I'm a bit trepidatious here, if I'm honest. I would argue that there are good moments in those films. Yeah, I know.

But we're not going to get into that today, except we will. Yeah. Because it's definitely going to come up. We're going to go non-spoilers, then spoilers, as we do not going to get into that today, except we will. Yeah. Because it's definitely going to come up. We're going to go non-spoilers, then spoilers as we do for all times we talk about movies, except if the movie's real shit, then we'll just talk about whatever. What happened last week. Yeah, that's exactly it. Pirates 5 also had a massive drop-off second week.

Makes sense. Last week was like the lowest opening for that particular weekend ever. Wow. Or since like 98 or something, because it was Baywatch and it was Pirates. Right. Both of them went well under what was expected. Huh. Yeah, so good.

Make better things. Also, they're blaming critics. They're like, Rotten Tomatoes ruined the movies. It's not how Rotten Tomatoes works. Just make better movies and people will see them. That's generally what happens. You know, anyway, I'm not going to get into it.

Baywatch. What were they thinking? I haven't seen it yet. No, me neither. It looks fine. I bet it's not. All right. Yeah.

All right. Mason. Yes, hello. We've returned to the DC universe 100 years in the past, and it makes me wonder what you think the story was. Oh, no. Okay, hang on. All right, give me a minute.

So it's 100 years in the past. Correct. Exactly. To the year. 1917? Yeah. Ooh. Wait, that's dated this episode.

I should bleep that out. Yeah, otherwise it'd be evergreen. That's right. Yeah, it's very true. So Steve Trevor is a pilot in the World War I. Yep, yep. He's flying about. Yep.

And he's having a bit of engine trouble so stupid those planes just an open cockpit you wear a scarf and goggles it's the dumbest thing you could do you've just got grenades rattling around by your feet that's where you keep them there's no guns on it

no it's ridiculous he's about to hit the bloody drink but then he arrives on the mystical magical island of Themyscira. Go on. Where amidst Wonder Woman. Oh, yeah, that's it. That's all the information you need. That's right.

Yeah, she was obviously introduced in Batman, Superman. I didn't really think of much of that appearance. I've talked about this before. People are like, it's the best. I've reviewed this. I did a review. Well, look, you don't really need to watch it because we're going to talk about it now. Yeah, exactly.

Also, not really a spoiler, this entire movie is set in flashback, in which there are also other flashbacks. Yes, flashbacks within. Anyway, what did you think? I had a really good time with this movie. Yeah. Did you think it was like,

this is a game changer in every way and our comic book movies will never be the same? No, but it was very good and also not a game changer for us because we're a couple of dudes have seen like 10 million of these yeah maybe for another perhaps a different 50 of the population of the world maybe maybe better fish maybe a kind of a what are we talking about here huh fish no i said 50 no no is the other 50 fish yeah it's fish. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

Fish are flocking to the cinema. That's right. To see their icon, Wonder Woman. And soon ladies will flock to the cinema to see their idol, Aquaman. I also enjoyed it. I don't think it's perfect for reasons we'll kind of get into. I think there's a lot of similarities story-wise to the first Avenger. Sure. Which, again, we'll talk of get into. I think there's a lot of similarities story-wise to the first Avenger. Sure.

Which again, we'll talk about in spoilers. But no, on the whole, I thought it was, look, it's kind of a standard story in terms of an origin and like a superhero film. But that's also kind of what DC needs because the movies that we've had so far, with the exception of Man of Steel, they're really convoluted storytelling-wise.

Oh, absolutely, yeah. And this is just kind of, it's a through line start to finish but I also think that that's not entirely the idea that you can just throw somebody into a

superhero universe I think 10 years ago or so that would have been more difficult because you have to explain what a superhero is and that they exist

in an interconnected universe and what have you but now that everything's an interconnected universe or is trying to be the idea of going like, okay, here's a gang of super criminals.

Have at it. Like that could and should work. Yeah, absolutely. It's just a shame it didn't. But yeah, like this is more back to basics. Right. Straight back. Yeah, yeah.

One of the strengths I thought of this, I thought, fuck it out. Oh, I was having that stroke that I was hoping for. I thought Gal Gadot. Yes. Or Gadot. I get corrected both ways. Yeah.

Right. I get a lot of kind of like, no, I'm from there. This is definitively this. I think it's Gadot. Yeah. Or Gadot.

Or Gadot. Actually, I think it's Gadot. It's Gadot. Anyway, I think she was really, really good. I don't think she's the best actress,

but this role seems to be, she's kind of made it her own. And even though some of the dialogue she kind of spouts, it's a little clunky, it's a little ham-fisted. For the most part, she's got a genuineness and a naivety and a strength to her that I think absolutely works. And there's some emotional, you know, a lot of people are like, oh, she got the acting chops or what have you and there were going to be some you know we we see the lead up into some emotional scenes where she had to she has to put her you know herself on the line

kind of thing and i as i'm like oh we're going into something like this and i'm like is this going to be awful and right but she she pulls them all off i think she's got that it didn't yeah i agree yeah and she also looks she looks great as wonder woman bloody dead on and when she's kind of you know i didn't i didn't buy all of the fight scenes not because of her because there's some kind of special effects stuff that i i don't quite like but when you see it's her or a stunt person uh you know kicking the crap out of somebody or you know flipping about and doing swords it looks it looks it looks good yeah yeah for the most part what do you think about that though You know, kicking the crap out of somebody or, you know, flipping about and doing swords. It looks good.

Yeah, I agree. Yeah, for the most part. What did you think about that, though, in terms of, I don't know. Fightings. Fightings, I guess. Yeah, good. I think, yeah, it's good to see her in actually fighting real people. Yes.

On real sets. Right, yeah. Yeah. So it's not like the Avengers where it's a bunch of CGI aliens or whatever. Well well not even that but more i'm thinking more about um batman v superman where she's just fighting doomsday yes in a wall of fire fighting a funny cgi man and there is a moment like that but i guess we'll talk about that yeah towards the end but no i and i i said this in my review as well i really feel like and patty jenkins the director aim for this she does have that kind of Christopher Reeve kind of

esque thing about I don't know what it is exactly whether it be the inspiration or the way she carries herself but I really think she's it's not afraid to be cheesy no exactly

and she's come out on social media and saying that being like why can't why can't there be a character who's kind of earnest and wants to save the world

and there isn't a layer of irony over the top of her? Because that's what I really want this version of Superman to be. Yeah, right. Yeah, and I think it probably will become that, especially on the back of this. But no, I found her really convincing in that aspect. Yeah, and there were also some nods to the Christopher Reeve Superman

in that scene where we've seen in the trailer where there's a fight in an alley and she deflects the bullets with her bracelets and that's it's in the first Superman right? Yeah where he catches the bullet like Lois Lane Dux we're covering he catches the

the criminal's bullet pretty good the criminal's wearing a nice sport coat he is actually I just did an easter egg video mate and it'll be up by now and that's in there along with many other easter eggs hello there's more than I thought in this because I'm like us in egg video, Mason. It'll be up by now. And that's in there along with many other Easter eggs.

Hello. There's more than I thought in this because I'm like, oh, it's in the past. There's not going to be that many. But there's actually a lot in this. Yeah. When you think about it. When you think about it.

I'll link that below. But people should check that out if they care about Easter eggs and what they missed and all those. Or what tenuous links can be made by people on the internet. Yes, that's right. Exactly. Funny little numbers and little symbols and what have you. Just let your mind run wild.

Should we talk about origins in... Oh, wait, did we talk about the fight sequences and stuff? No, no, we will. I do want to touch on her origin. Should we talk about that in spoilers? Yeah, I guess we have to. Because, yeah. I mean, this has been shifted from

well even if you say that i think that is a spoiler okay right well yeah anyway we'll we'll kind of we'll get into it but action sequences though yeah pretty good great hand to hand there's the um there's a bit where she goes into no man's land that's great which is fantastic it looks horrible and muddy and if you ever ever seen like All Quiet in the West in Front or you know war films of that era that's what it looks like looks like Dunkirk but cool man cool yeah

but there is that kind of sense of hopelessness and just guys and women as well in this case just like stuck in the trenches yeah yeah but then what's good about it now that you mention it is that it does seem like this

it does seem hopeless and dreary and awful, but then we've got this character who's this kind of beacon of hope, and she's like, what are you waiting for? Enough of this shit. Let's get in there. And there's a lot of, I think, in that action sequence, I think maybe in the hands of a lesser director or an actor that doesn't suit that role as well,

that would have felt quite naff and like yeah why is this happening why you know because you can't like it's difficult i think to throw a superhero into a war situation and not have it seem like like kind of i think captain america does it well yeah but there are examples of it not being as like you throw it in and you know you and go you'd go, these people are fighting really hard. Don't throw a superhero in here and make it seem like it's easy kind of thing. Right, yeah, yeah. But then she's got this beacon of hope

and then people follow her into battle because she's this inspiration. Because also, and you see from that pretty early on when she's in No Man's Land, she can't do it by herself. Yeah, she's not indestructible. And the troops have to rally. But that is by far my favourite action sequence in this film because it goes for, you know, it extends into a town and there's a tank and there's a whole bunch of other stuff going on.

Yeah, right. And she goes into a building and it's, yeah, that part was fantastic. There's a few moments where you see where she kind of jumps in the air and it looks a bit kind of like Neo in The Matrix when he turns into a CGI man. Yes. There's a little bit of that. Yeah. Which is, I don't know, maybe you wouldn't notice it if you kind of don Neo in the Matrix when he turns into a CGI man. Yes. There's a little bit of that. Yeah.

Which is, I don't know, maybe you wouldn't notice it if you kind of don't have an eye for it. Yeah, there's a bit of, no, I think you would. There's a little, when they make it to the town in the No Man's Land scene,

there is a bit of, like a little shade of the burly brawl from the Matrix reloaded kind of thing. Yeah, absolutely. Where there's people running and whipping and spinning. Whipping and kicking. Whipping and kicking and spinning. And you're like, oh, that's okay.

You couldn't have done that on a real camera rig. No, I don't feel so. The early stuff in the movie where we go to Themyscira, what do you think of all that? You've got this island of women, really well cast. Well, there's the two main ones in particular, Robin Wright and... Robin Wrong.

Got her. The woman who's not Diane Lane. Yeah. What the hell's her name? It's not Annette Bening. It's not Annette Bening. It's definitely not. Anyway, I like those guys as well.

There was no Linda Carter cameo in this as far as I know. No, she's thanked in the credits. Yeah, right. It's in my Easter egg video. I quite liked it. I think all the Amazons do very well, considering I think a lot of them are athletes and like yeah one of them absolutely yeah there was a there's i found it a bit cheesy there's a bit where she's watching the amazons and she's doing like she's a little girl and she's doing like the kicking and oh

right yes you could have just kind of stood there but okay whatever she's a little kid and she gets excited though yeah a few moments like that i'm like yeah whatever but no on the whole it was it was a really good representation of of that culture from what we've seen in the comics yeah and obviously it draws a lot from greek mythology and all that kind of thing and and a lot of this stuff is from watching all the b-roll it is on location they've gone to places like this there's a few moments where it's a bit wonky. There's a bit where the little girl jumps, and then her mum catches her, but you see the blue screen behind her.

Right, sure, yeah. It's not great, but on the whole, no, it's a really well-fleshed-out world. There's, like, market stalls and all that kind of stuff. I like it, Mason, is what I'm saying. Who else is in this? What else have we got? Christopher Pyne. Christopher Pyne. He's good. Yeah, he's good, isn't he? Yeah, he's good, yeah. Who else is in this? What else have we got? Christopher Pyne. Christopher Pyne.

He's good. Yeah, he's good, isn't he? Yeah, he's good. Charming. Yeah. Do you think he would have been a good Captain America? Or was he too smug? Ah, he's a little smug, yeah.

He's too roguish, I think. Yeah, in a good way, though. Like, he suits this. Yeah. Yeah. But he's not earnest enough to be Captain America, I think. Which suits him for this, because he's kind of a good counterbalance to her, because she is so- Also, his head's too big to fit in the helmet, I think. Yeah. him for this because he's kind of a good counterbalance to her. Also, his head's too big to fit in the helmet, I think.

Is that the hair or the head? Could be both. Could be both, yeah. Yeah, yeah. But no, he's a good kind of counterpoint to her because he's kind of seeing the real world and he's jaded by war. Because a lot of the times the things that she's pushing for, he's like, that's not going to work, don't do it. Right, sure.

Sometimes he's right and sometimes he isn't. Yes. And I like that kind of dynamic between the two. Yeah, and he's like that's not gonna work don't do it right sometimes he's right and sometimes he isn't yes you know and i like that kind of dynamic between the two yeah and he's jaded she is she's more optimistic but she's not always she's not naive to the point where she's an idiot yes which i was concerned was going to be a thing right yeah but it was pretty good yeah i was also a little bit concerned that it was going to be like just a superhero movie, but they reversed the genders. Right. Okay. So like he was going to be, you know, the damsel in distress all the time. Right.

She was going to be the hero all the time, but I think they got, they got a good balance. Everybody, everybody got a good amount of screen time. Everybody got a good amount of heroing. Did the, uh, they're not the Howling Commandos. They're sort of. I like them. Yeah. Then I don't know.

I don't know. We'll see. I've never seen them in a comic book, but I've seen the Howling Commandos. They're sort of... I like them. Yeah. I don't know. Well, see, I've never seen them in a comic book, but I've seen the Blackhawks. That's what I put in my video, yeah. Sort of the World War II flying aces. Yeah. And this... Well, one of them put a picture of that on their Twitter. So I think that's who they're supposed to be.

Okay, right, right, right. But they never called that. No. And none of them are pilots. None of them are pilots. Exactly right, yeah. As far as I can pilots. None of them are pilots. Exactly right. Yeah. As far as I can tell.

Yeah. So like, but I also, I thought that, but initially I'm also like, but often these ragtag teams do have similar archetypes. Like there is often like a strong, silent Native American type and like a, like a Turkish man in a fez and the third one. Some sort of... Scottish or British? Yeah, he's Scottish. I was going to say an Irish or Scottish man.

Yeah. Yeah. But did they work for you? Yeah, totally. Yeah. And that's the thing as well. I think the other DC movies, they lack humour that this kind of has. And we've talked about before, well, you talked about specifically last week

that people seem to be against humour in their comic book movies. They're either really funny or they have to be deadly serious in their comic book movies they're either really funny or they have to be deadly serious yeah right i think this could have did which i i i'm always like if you're buying into the premise of people putting on rubber suits and punching each other in the streets yeah yeah you got to buy into it being a little bit funny yeah absolutely yeah i think that the the level of humor in this really works and what really kind of sold it for me, I was I watched the Batman Superman clip with Wonder Woman for videos and what not

and there's that really weird line where Superman's like is she with you? and Batman's like is she with you? I know it's supposed to kind of be a joke but it's clearly made just for the trailer and it doesn't even make sense in the context of the film because Batman is the only one out of the two that knows who she is yeah so it's weird that he i don't know

but this i feel like the humor it it worked in the context of the film it wasn't just like oh we use this funny bit and we'll put it in the trailer yeah yeah and i also like that those characters had they weren't just stock they you know they again they have they have characteristics of some of those archetypes but they weren't just stock characters Again, they have characteristics of some of those archetypes, but they weren't just stock characters. They all had thoughts and dreams and problems and what have you. Yeah, perhaps even more so than what we got from the Howling Commandos as well. A lot of those guys, I don't really know what they're about.

Dum Dum Dugan is the leader and he wears a bowler hat. Bowler hat for some reason. What's the origin of the bowler hat? We'll never know. I don't know. And I'm not saying those guys aren't good in their own right, but I'm not really sure guys aren't good in their own right, but I couldn't, you know, I don't, I'm not really sure what all of them are about,

but this I feel like, and maybe because I haven't seen that movie in a while, but this I got a good sense of each of them. Yeah. Yeah. Also, I think the Scottish guy is the guy, is he the- He's train spotting. Yes.

Is he the guy who flies the plane in the rundown? He might be. Is he also the guy that gets dragged by his tie by Vinnie Jones in Snatch? I think he might be as well. Yeah, okay, all right, just checking. Let me check. What's his name?

Dunno. Yeah, hang on. Why would I know? I'm going to look that up right now. Okay, if you could. So I'm going to start at Trainspotting. Okay. Because that one, and he's also in...

I'm going to start at Wonder Woman. We'll see if we can find ourselves in the middle. He was also in... He's in Michael start at Wonder Woman. We'll see if we can find ourselves in the middle. He was also in... He's in Michael Bay... He's in Pearl Harbor. Oh. Here we go. Bless him.

There he is. Ewan Bremner. Yep. He's in Snatch. Yep. He's in Trainspotting. He's in... Get Santa.

Black Hawk Down. Oh, is he? Yeah. He's in Snowpiercer. This guy's in a lot of stuff. I don't think he's in the Rundown. Oh, man. That's a good movie man that's a good movie

that's a good movie right are you sure it's not Welcome to the Jungle it might be another it is he's in Welcome to the Jungle there you go alright cool

that guy's great for those people who don't know Welcome to the Jungle was called The Rundown in Australia it's got The Rock in it yeah it's a good film or is it

no it is okay good thanks Ewan Bremmer hard to say isn't it Bremner oh and Lucy Davis is in this as well yeah she's good

she's great she's fun yep I haven't seen her since Ugly Betty I want to say I'm sure she's been in other things

but uh no it's always good to see Lucy Davis you a fan of The Office British Office yeah okay what about structurally

you got your third act you got your CGI and you're jumping about yeah do you think do you think it does fall down a bit there? Oh, yeah, absolutely.

Yeah. In a way that a lot of superhero movies do, like in the way that First Iron Man does, in a way I feel like Man of Steel does. No, see, that's the thing. I don't think that the First Iron Man does fall down in that way. Yeah. Because we've got the two...

It's got the guy that goes mad for no reason. It does have that, but it's also got... And it's got the two dudes in CGI suits hitting each other with stuff. Yeah. But also at the end, you know, the masks come off

and there's actual human emoting and stuff like that. Right. And you can actually tell what's going on. Bad example then, Mason. Yeah, one of the worst. But the villains in this,

one of which we won't talk about because of spoilers, we get standard German guy who played the dad vampire in 30 Days of Night. Yep. And also Striker in X-Men 2. And we get Dr. guy who played the dad vampire in 30 days of night yep and also striker in x-men 2 and we get dr poison great thought that there's a weird moment where

one of them poisons a room full yes i was just going to talk about that i thought that was funny can we can we talk about the non-spoilers okay okay they poison a room full of people it's not really relevant where or when it is in the movie but then they like this is in the trailer the poison can break a gas mask it's mustard gas yeah but you know what full credit to them for not making it like some sort of super high-tech future space nerve gas or whatever there is a bit of that which i want to talk about also i think they were just like you know what nerve gas is mustard gas is really bad let's just have her invent i thought it was like next it's next level mustard gas because it can melt a mask right okay but it is essentially yeah right yes yeah but anyway go oh yeah so so and then they then uh the dad from uh 30 days of night throws

one gas mask into this room full of people yeah and they close the door and dr poison says the gas the gas mask won't do anything and he's's like, oh, but they don't know that. And they both sort of go, ooh, and then they run away, which I thought was very funny because it was like they were like. Did you laugh out loud? Yeah, kind of. Because they were like sort of cackling like old 1940s serial villains. Right, yeah.

Or like. And that's what they are. Yeah, or like, you know, like Marx Brothers villains or something like that. Yeah what they are yeah or like um you know like marx brothers villains or something like that yeah yeah but they were both kind of suitably creepy and off-putting in particular her i like the design of that the mask because if you look at the original designs of the character it's just a woman in like a you know like a walter white-esque kind of one suit kind of thing yeah yeah domino mask uh but no, I thought they were both really good. Did you ever see

Boardwalk Empire? No, I didn't. Because there's a character on that, he's a sniper and he's come back from World War I. Yeah.

And he has had it like, you know, he's been ruined by the war and he's had similar things happen where they just sort of put a, they just sort of plug a porcelain mask over the cover

of what was ruined kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, okay. It's very interesting. Yeah, yeah. And gross. And gross. Yeah.

Well, do we want to jump the spoilers then? Let's jump the spoilers. There's a bunch of stuff I want to talk about. Before we do that, I'm going to say best movie ever. I had a really good time with this one. I am also going to say best movie ever. They got one right finally. Yeah, absolutely.

I mean, and some people would argue that they're all winners, Mason. Name a person who would think that. Big fans of all these movies. I can't, I mean. Oh, for the fans. People who are a fan in the sense that these Oh, for the fans. People who are a fan in the sense that these movies are for the fans.

Yeah, you're right. Yeah. All right, so spoilers. Do you want to talk about origins first? Yeah, let's do it. So the origin of Wonder Woman in this is

they take elements from the New 52 and they also take elements from the original Wonder Woman. So she's made of clay, allegedly. Yeah. But she's actually not made of clay.

She's made of a god, half of. Yeah. What's the physical strength of these women on this island i mean they're immortal yep and but they can be shot sure right uh so where are we at ah also how old is wonder woman i saw like 5 000 years, which would mean that the start of this movie, because he still seems very naive in terms of that society. But I guess in a society where everybody is 10,000 years old and you're five, then that's how you would kind of be perceived.

I guess you would have to estimate like what time in the world of antiquity Zeus existed and then what time this epic final battle happened and et cetera. Yeah. What did you think of the flashback as told in like Greek mythological relief? I thought it was really cool, yeah. Could have been a bit ropey, but it was good. Yeah, no, absolutely.

Funny story, Mason. Oh, yes. I was speaking to the people who made that on the internet. Oh, yes. And I might be getting a little bit of uh do some stuff like just a bit of insight into so what you're saying is they're going to turn us into sort of greek gods in relief correct that's fantastic that's right yeah so yeah for that so uh yeah that we're i'm going to do a video about some some stuff around one hopefully if there's

enough kind of information but yeah no they worked on that thing in particular so that's pretty cool no because i also i also like that because as a parallel to man of steel man of steel did a similar similar thing but with kryptonian technology yeah right and this did that but with uh yeah that's true with this kind of world yeah building yes universe yes but no so they changed it so she's the daughter of zeus like in the new 52 version which i think and i think it makes more i like that origin more what do you prefer do you prefer that just a clay girl springs to life uh no i prefer this version because then she is more it's weird that she lives on a world she lives on a world of amazons who are

to some degree real women and she's just a clay person yeah that's odd right yeah with magic involved it's weird that she's a clay person yeah exactly and if you see the original panels where she's born it's literally they they mold a girl and then they look at it and then it comes to life yeah that's literally also what are they doing what are they doing yeah all good questions yeah yeah it's a kind of a pinocchio scenario i feel one perhaps one element of this this origin that falls down a little bit is they're like, don't tell her what her origin is. Don't say, don't tell her she's this thing kind of thing. But I'm like, what would it matter? If you tell her on Themyscira, it shouldn't make any difference.

No, it's actually one of those situations where that's really handy information to know because the reveal is that she is the weapon that's going to destroy Ares, not the sword. This is the people who are listening who haven't seen it but are still listening, I guess. What are you doing, you fools? You're ruining the experience.

Yeah, but that's handy information. And I get that they maybe didn't tell her to protect her when she's going out into the world. You want to know that going into that fight. So of the two twists, were you surprised by either of them? No. I don't know whether it was because I heard a rumor that David Fleweth was also Ares, but I thought the other one was also...

Even if I didn't, I thought the other was too obvious that it wasn't that guy. Yeah, but I... Also, that guy's a real guy that exists in history. Oh, really? They just made him Ares? That's interesting. No, no, no, sorry.

The guy who's supposed... She thinks he's Ares. It's a real guy. It's a real guy. Okay, that makes more sense now that I think about it. Yeah, so like when they're like, he left the godslayer here and she's like, can I see it?

And she's like, I'm like, oh, it's Wonder Woman. It's not the sword. The sword's just a regular sword. Yeah. And then as soon as the minister's like, here's some money, go and do this and Godspeed or what have you, I'm like, he's the bad guy. Yeah, exactly, yeah.

But, you know. Not everybody knew that though, Mason. Danny Houston can't be the bad guy all the time. Is that his name? Yes. Okay, great. Let's just call him the dad vampire from 30 Days of Night. Yeah.

That's a great movie. It's great. Yeah. Yeah. No, but I like the origin. I think it was a good kind of retelling. What I thought was really weird and out of place, but then they kind of explained it,

so I guess I'll give it a pass. Dr. Poison makes a magic which makes Danny Houston strong. Yeah, right. And I guess because Ares told her that, because he's whispering these kind of ideas and formulas into her ear yeah to make her to do it so that i guess that's some kind of magic that she's crafted there a pill that you know i don't know i think i don't think necessarily it's magic i think it's maybe just

he gave her some weird inspiration and she had the evil genius anyway so she's like okay i'll put my genius towards this today yeah what i what i do find hilarious in hindsight is wonder woman like kicked the shit out of that guy right like he was a regular man and she just fucking just like slamming him into concrete kicking him in the head i mean he was a nazi yeah well not really he was a proto nazi yeah but i thought that was pretty good that's quite funny so speaking of if we if we can jump to the final battle and then back to some other stuff probably, that final battle is where it all sort of, it didn't fall down, but I feel that him turning into,

I was like, at some point I'm like, at what point is he going to turn from being a nerd into a jock? Because otherwise it's not, the audience is not going to feel it's a fair fight if she's fighting this guy from season three of Fargo. Is he in Fargo? Yes. Yeah, right. Yeah, yeah.

So when are they going to... When's she going to stop beating on this mustachioed nerd and start fighting a real manly dude? Yeah. Then the CGI armor pops on and I'm like, I don't know about this. Yeah. I liked that the armor wasn't like a traditional Greek armor

in the sense he was just grabbing what was around him. Yeah, okay. And fashioned it into... Like you can see that it was bits of broken whatever yeah and again like i i feel that this final battle worked kind of as more of a metaphor than it did an actual fight right where it was more it wasn't about she had to find a way to kill him or she had to you know find a weapon that he couldn't defeat or anything like that. It was more just he is, it's more like she's dealing with the devil in that he is, you know, offering her ultimate power

or to destroy the world and then rule the universe or what have you. Yeah. And she has to see through that and defeat him on a like a, like a metaphorical sort of emotional level. Right. Because the fight wasn't that crazy. No, it certainly wasn't. And the bit in particular that really stood out for me was,

and they seem to do this in a lot of DC movies, it's just CGI lightning and smoke and fire and just skidding through a blue screen. Yeah. And just, that didn't look great for me. Like, I didn't need any of that. And it's weird that she killed like a hundred guys and then he dumps Dr. Poison in front of her and she's like not this one not this that's the one

you kill yeah not this mass murderer yeah like everybody else there you're gonna get the sense especially when the the germans take the masks off also germans weren't the only ones on that side of world war one anyway i'm not gonna get into it but uh yeah you see that you see their faces and they all just sort of embrace and they're all people and then the native american guy like shakes the hand of the other soldier and he's like it's all right we don't have to fight anymore kind of thing yeah those guys are just those guys thought they were in like that's world of one those people thought they were getting into some sort of adventure yes and then they every single person was in way over

their heads yeah immediately so. God. Crazy. The war to end all wars, they said. We know better. Yeah, we do. People in the future. Yeah, that's right. Idiots. In the past.

That being said, the No Man's Land battle was incredible. Yep. And I enjoyed the callback where Chris Pine saw the Amazons do the shield thing. And then... The shield thing? Oh, right. Amazons do the shield thing and then the shield thing and then then he's like guys we're gonna do because like you know the shield thing they did the shield thing yeah no I like that a lot too can she fly I think she can by the final battle yes because before like at the point where she's some you know she absorbs all that lightning and then she blasts him and then she sort of floats down on her own. Yeah. I think that's the point where she's like, oh, I can fly.

Or at least she's got some idea that she can. And then by the modern day when she leaps into the sky. But it's still never 100%. Even in Batman v Superman, we still don't know if she can fly. No, she does a longish leap. Maybe that's what they get. Because do you think they're going to give her the invisible jet at some point? They've mentioned it, yeah.

I think it'll probably be a Batman tech thing. Maybe. Yeah. Yeah. Cause it's, I don't know. Cause why would. Will you rise with the sun to help change mental health care forever?

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On May 10th, Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes is coming to IMAX and theaters everywhere. That's sunrisech your king. Never. Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes. Only in theaters May 10. Tickets on sale now. The ancient Greeks invented an invisible plane. Well, I guess you could take a regular plane and put magic on it, I guess. And they have the power to hide themselves, because they've obviously been hiding there for so many years. So when Steve Trevor crashes through,

was that because Wonder Woman used her power and that what kind of revealed the island? Oh, good question. Is that what kind of got her out of the open? My assumption was that Themyscira has always been there. We're going to get a lot of emails about mispronouncing Themyscira. Is it Themyscira? Themyscira has always been there. Yeah. We're going to get a lot of emails about mispronouncing Themyscira. Is it Themyscira? Themyscira.

There we go. From this point, we won't get any more. Prior to that, we will. I was under the assumption that it's just in the middle of the ocean. Right. And mankind just doesn't get there a lot. Right. But it's only because World War I has started and we're crossing the pacific or the

atlantic or whichever one it is just by coincidence this is the one time it's right happened so i got the sense that because uh one of them's mother says to her hey when you you know every time you use your powers or whatever then aries kind of gets closer to you right okay that's what i thought was kind of the trigger point for because as soon as she clashed her things together, then Chris Pine crashes. It's like two minutes later. You're right. I mean, I don't know that for a fact.

That's just what I kind of... Maybe it's both. Maybe it is both. Maybe it's both. On the... You can start sending emails again. If you could. Yeah.

What else are we going to talk about? What else do we have? Okay, there's a... Chris Pine's definitely not dead. Why do you say that? Because... Actually, I've got a whole bunch of stuff that I want to talk about in sequels. Okay. I'm going to save it for that do we have okay there's a way pine's definitely not dead why do you say that because actually i've got a whole bunch of stuff that i want to talk about in sequels okay save for that because

i maybe want to do a video on it as well oh yeah cool do that shut your mouth shut your mouth there's a weird conversation about fire oh yeah that's right a sexy fireside fire so when you were in your review you were like it's kind of annoying that everybody speaks english yeah but chris pine does speak in a german accent during that point yes he does so my assumption is he's speaking german then well yeah maybe yeah he might be i think the idea is if you're speaking in an accent that's the language you speak okay fine yeah so but yeah isn't it wasn't the idea that he was like this woman's a psychopath i'm also yeah no i thought it was weird and fun yeah yeah but then he's kind of pulled out of it when he sees Diana, which is like,

this guy doesn't like me with my weird porcelain face. He likes this incredibly beautiful woman. Yeah, right. Who has a porcelain face, metaphorically. That's right, yeah. Okay, why don't we talk about bloody... Actually, before we do that, Captain America. Yes.

Incredibly obvious parallels between those two films. The plane sacrifice is the end of captain america uh-huh right yeah i know it's a wartime setting it's i don't whether it's intentional or not yeah look i would give i would give i think the the rest of it is you know it's they're both wartime setting i would say the rest of it is kind of coincidental or incidental right but i think the crashing it's weird that they both end with that, isn't it? Absolutely. Well, let's talk sequels, Mason.

So Patty Jenkins, she's contractually obligated to reappear as is Gal Gadot. And you mentioned Chris Pine. Chris Pine is not dead, you think, because- Well, first of all, Chris Pine, the actor, is not dead. Really? He got out of that plane crash, didn't he? That's correct. So what did they put in there, like a dog to fly the plane?

How did they do this? Yeah, a series of dogs taped together. But, well, I mean, obviously, Chris Pine's character, I'm going to say not dead. I mean, potentially dead now, because he'd be 135 years old in 2017. But I'm going to say, you know, for comic book fans, no, there's only one inviolable rule,

which is no one ever really dies in comics. Yes. The rule used to include some other very specific characters. It was Bucky. It was Bucky Barnes, who is now back from the dead as the Winter Soldier.

Jason Todd. Jason Todd, who is now back from the dead as, yeah, it used to be no one ever really dies except these people. Jason Todd is now the Red Hood. Yep. And Uncle Ben. He's still dead. still dead yes he is though he's been a robot yeah um anyway so no one ever really dies in comic books and there's so many ways to do this you can say that the person who died was a robot or a clone or a not a wonder woman yeah no time travel

what have you but in this instance the most obvious one is if you don't see somebody die, they're still alive. Right. So in this particular scene, he's on the plane. He's got his gun. He's going to shoot one of the gas containers. They're filled with hydrogen. It's going to explode and blow up the plane. But you never see him pull the trigger and you never hear a gunshot.

Right. And there's enough time where he could conceivably think of another plan and then do that plan to like rig some kind of explosive yeah exactly yeah exactly the end of the movie though implies that he hasn't been around but i guess if you're doing a sequel to this set anywhere but in a hundred years between this and batman superman he could reappear he could conceivably reappear he'd he'd still be dead, like you said, in the modern day. Yeah, right. But he could conceivably appear in maybe, I don't know,

maybe like a 1920s situation. How good would that be? Like a 1920s gangster kind of film with Wonder Woman? I completely agree. And the other option is- To die again? To die again. Or he could appear in a World War II kind of scenario

and then die again. Yeah, absolutely. In perhaps a crashing plane kind of situation. And then, you know, in the 1920s Prohibition, he could be crashing a plane full of hooch. Oh, couldn't he? Also, there's a moment where he's bathing in water at the start. There's a fountain of youth on Themyscira. That's true.

So you wouldn't even necessarily have to age him. The other thing I thought of, and I put this in my Easter egg video, you could have the flash grab him out of time. That's true. The reason being that it wouldn't upset the timeline if he's potentially dead because he's because he if he didn't exist for that 100 years that's fine you just plunk him in the modern day yeah boom it's fine so i'd like to say look uh if you if you remember the original wonder woman tv series yeah i vaguely do the first season was set in the 1940s was it. And she had like a certain group of friends

and there was like a love interest, Steve Trevor style love interest. Yeah. I think it was Steve Trevor. And then if I recall correctly, and there's no guarantees that I recall anything correctly, the second season, they're just like, I think it'd be easier if we put it in the modern day.

So they just bumped her to the modern day and then she had another love interest in Steve Trevor. The same actor? Same guy. was it his i'm gonna double check this but i'm pretty sure yeah i think it was a grandson or a grandson or something like that okay so they could just do that it'd be son yeah yeah fantastic so it'd be great grandson then yeah probably one of the things i i feel like is not a missed opportunity because it's kind of sad but it also works with the storytelling point of view.

In Captain America, the loss of Agent Carter, I've always wanted her to come back in the modern day, but I understand why you can't do it. Yeah. I totally get it. But I think in this scenario, it might actually, it might be worth considering. If we can diverge for a second, though,

I think you could do it. In Agent Carter? No, I think you could do it. With the time. No, I think you could do it. With the time gem or whatever. With the time gem. Yeah, totally, yeah. I feel, and I, obviously they're going to do whatever they're going to do,

and they've probably, they've filmed everything, right? They've filmed Infinity War and et cetera. They've done one, or they're in the process of. I feel that if, there's got to be a point in time where, like maybe like Peggy Carter's thrown in like a Hydra prison

for, you know, like a week or something like that. Right. And so she's completely out of action. Yeah. And nobody knows where she is. Just have somebody get the time jam, pull her out of time. She can have that reunion with Steve, then throw her back in jail. Right.

And also in the modern day, she's also got memory loss. So she might not even, she can't be like, Steve, we went on that adventure in time. got memory loss so yeah so you might not even so she can't be like steve we went on that adventure in time that's the thing like in the modern era in in civil war and in captain america 2 he's sad because they never they never had you know the romance that they they they should have had and she doesn't remember it but that's not to say a it never happened she just doesn't remember it and b steve is sad because it never happened but it just hasn't remember it. And B, Steve is sad because it never happened, but it just hasn't happened to him yet. Yes, that's right.

Oh, time travel. Good point. Well, Patty Jenkins has also talked about the sequel. She said that she's probably going to make it contemporary, bring it to the modern day. But I feel like there'd be something in setting. You could do a few films potentially in that 100-year span. You could do your World War II movie.

You could do a Vietnam era. It wouldn't even have to be set during a particular war. There's so much you could do within that time period. Yeah, yeah. Have you found out whether it's the same guy? No, however, so they did one season on ABC. Very good. They didn't renew it because it was limited scenarios

and the villains were always Nazis. You couldn't change it up. So it went to CBS. They shifted it to 1977. Very good. Yeah, right. You know what? It looks like they changed the Steve Trevor love interest.

Very good. Okay, that's sour. That's television. That's television for you. You never know. Always ruining the... Yep. So if it wasn't contemporary,

is there a time period or a story you'd like to see happen? Or do you just like buggerger it's make it modern day uh yeah i think maybe it is it should be time for a modern day one there's also another period piece would be odd and i think if people would get kind of impatient right yeah and people have made the complaint of this movie that the wonder woman who turns up in batman superman is jaded because she's like i'm sick of wars and all this kind of sure yeah but at the end of this movie she's not she's kind of hopeful and whatever yeah i don't necessarily think you need to have a movie kind of explaining why she is the way she is by batman superman turn turn when she turns up in that film yeah it's 100 years

something would have happened at some point that she wasn't happy about but if there was a movie that kind of delved into that then yeah i'd be totally okay with it that'd be good yeah yeah the other thing was uh you can go back to the amazon amazon you can go back to themisgeri you can do a whole bunch of stuff there her mother's still there it's also implied that can she not go back they did say that yeah yeah so i guess because it's hidden maybe that she's lost that ability i don't really know whether that's that's the case i don't know and i've actually got i've got a tweet here from screw it's like when a bird falls out of a nest. They're not allowed to come back because the mother can smell it on them.

That's actually not true. That's a myth. You see a bird out of its nest, put it back in the nest. Well, you know what? Wonder Woman's also a myth. So what are you going to do about that, eh? You're either all in or all out. This is from Skrby Designs, but that's spelled differently than I said it.

Scribe Designs? Okay, so this is from Skrby Designs. That's not how you say it. differently than I said it. Scribe designs? Okay, so this is from scurvy designs. That's not how you say it. How do you say it? Scribe designs. This is from scribe designs. Okay. Since Ares was killed and ended his influence after the war,

does that mean that World War II didn't happen in the DCEU? Oh. I get the sense that Ares was an influence, but he didn't. He's not direct. Well, like he says, he's not directly starting these wars. Yeah. He is aiding them. But also, even if you look at the history of World War I

leading up to World War II, World War II was kind of kicked off because of the events of World War I. Yeah, right. They do lead into each other. I mean, there's a couple of decades in between, but one affects the other. So even without Ares, i think that this is still a world where world war ii definitely happened and worse yeah i mean that's the yeah i mean and

in in the the dc universe well in the in the dc universe the idea is that hitler has well there's there's there's different there's different versions of it but i believe in in some versions, Hitler has the Spear of Destiny, which he can use to mind control people. Right. So you can't just send in a superhero to trance Hitler. And also, he's got a guy on his team who can nullify superhuman powers. So as a result, no heroes can just get in there.

Right, gotcha. But some of them do. So as a result, no heroes can just get in there. Right, gotcha. But some of them do, like the original Flash and Green Lantern, just enlist as regular soldiers and just be like, you know, this is what we're going to do. Let's say a lot of the DC Universe kicked off, or a lot of comics in general kicked off from World War II.

Yeah. It was like, oh, punch Hitler, go for it. That's right. Have a great time. Have a good old time. Yeah. So what about, what villains would you like to see in a sequel then? She's got Cheetah. I was going to say Cheetah

yeah Cheetara? Cheetah no Cheetara's Thundercats Thundercats yeah exactly well Cheetah's the

sort of the main villain right and sort of co-protagonist of the most recent Wonder Woman series because she has very much a tragic backstory

it's an enchanted amulet curse or something. Is that it? I can't remember what it is. It's some kind of curse that means she's a cheater woman. Look, I'll be honest. I'm not super familiar with the Wonder Woman rogues gallery.

Like most superhero rogues galleries, if it ain't Batman or Spider-Man, it ain't that good. There's Circe, a sorcerer. Circe? I think it's just Circe. It's not. You're wrong. You're wrong and bad

at pronouncing things Demiscuri you've got you've nailed that it's pushed all the other pronunciations out of your brain so I've got Cerse so I'm two for two I just need to nail

the next one if we could see if we could if we could have if we're going to put Cersei in I feel we should have the live action replication of my favourite

Batman moment of all time which is the one where he has to entreat Cersei to remove the curse on Wonder Woman that's turned her into a pig so he has to go to Cersei's nightclub and sing karaoke. Absolutely. Which is the best Batman moment in the world, I feel.

Which is in Justice League Unleavened. It is. I actually mentioned that in my Easter egg video, Mason. I hate to bring it up again. Oh, no. But I want to see a Wonder Woman-Bruce Wayne relationship. Yeah, okay, cool. They've never kind kind of done it they've kind of hinted at it they've hinted that he's in love with her yeah right but i like the element of i know we just talked about bringing steve trevor back but i also like the element of he is mortal and they come from completely different worlds superman and wonder woman they have different origins or whatever but they're

very similar yeah a lot of ways they're both going to live for an extraordinarily long amount of time. They have compatible DNA in a lot of versions so they can have a kid. They understand each other in that sense. But I like that Batman is a man who will die and she could tear him in half with her bare hands. Yeah, right. But I like that dynamic in a relationship. I think that would be interesting to see.

Your wife could tear you in half with her bare hands Donna Troy who's like a clone or younger sister Wonder Woman I guess that'd kind of be a weird thing to bring in now I guess they could have had her in the basement or whatever that's weird

I guess because she's bad news yeah okay I don't know and there's also the firstborn which I didn't know about but it's a new villain and there's also the firstborn which i didn't know about but it's a is a new villain and he's zeus's first son and he hates everybody probably yeah there you go

those are your options mason yeah pick none of them if you want or all of them okay all right now mason there's never been a girl in the regular room before we forebode it we did absolutely minus the dog what what dog can be women too that's true it is 2017 you're right i was gonna forebode it. We did, absolutely. Minus the dog. What? Dog can be women too, Mason. That's true. It is 2017. You're right. I was going to forebode it, but you're right. It's 2017.

That's it. And with that in mind. If you can hear that other voice cackling away. I do like to cackle. You love a cackle. That's because my wife Claire's here to talk a little bit about Wonder Woman before we kind of wrap this up. Now, Claire, we're willing to spoil as you've walked into the tail end of our conversation,

but you were lucky enough to attend the Melbourne premiere, a real event. Oh, tell us about that. With all the stars from Neighbours that just happened to be sitting behind us. They were sitting behind us. I don't watch Neighbours. Neither do I.

The picture you posted on Twitter, people were like, there's people from Neighbours. Neighbours is huge in England as well. It is. These people are very, very famous. Was Dr. Carl there? No, it was a younger crew. Yeah, I know.

I didn't recognise any of them. In fact, one of them asked. That's so passive aggressive, Claire. I know, it's really bad. Just like, I didn't recognise any of them. I only know Neighbours from the 90s. Sure, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Was Kylie Minogue there? Yeah, if Kylie Minogue had been there. Kylie Minogue was on minogue there yeah i wouldn't recognize in the 80s was that dog that was hit by a car there bouncer yes was toady there james toady wasn't there i'd recognize toady i would recognize toady anywhere everybody i know who's seen toady most people listen don't care about this they're always like yeah I saw him in a supermarket. They always see Toadie in a supermarket. He does look like a guy who would go to a supermarket. He certainly does.

Or work at a supermarket. Guys, got him. Got him. Got him. Anyway, so Wonder Woman 2017, you had some thoughts that I'd love you to share. What did you think of this film, the first, let's say, good female superhero movie since? The wonderful Wonder Woman film.

Yeah, since none of the others because they're all terrible. Yeah, they are all terrible. What did you think? Well, I loved it and I didn't think it was the best movie ever in the whole world. Well, there's only two ratings on this movie. Yeah, there's no nuance here. I don't know if you know.

I thought it was the worst movie ever. Thank you. Once you cross this threshold into the man cave, you've only got one extreme or the other in this world there are only two ratings no i really loved it and i loved it because i saw a kick-ass woman being kick-ass and i was really believable and she looked really strong and really fun and clever and she knew lots of languages and she wasn't stick skinny i just i thought that was so great to see so that was a criticism of uh her when she was cast because she she wasn't she was a model which i guess she still is she was miss world or universal one of them i can't remember well yeah because she's hideous she's no good so that's unexpected yeah

but she did put on a fair bit a fair bit of muscle for this. So you, like, believe the physicality when she's skidding around a room kicking dudes in the head or whatever. Did you? Because I thought that was a lot of fun. Yeah. I mean, there were a few special effects where I thought, ooh, that CGI and I didn't like that.

There was that weird moment at the start when she was a little girl and then she falls off the thing. Right, yeah. It looked really fake and terrible. Yeah, totally. Yeah. But also there was something in me that just loved seeing all of these really powerful women being powerful right at the start and robin wright i just love her yeah she's fantastic yeah wasn't she fantastic she's just so believable as a gladiator style woman you just think oh gosh of course she could

kick the shit out of you do Do you know what I mean? Absolutely. And I like it. Yeah, and I want it to happen again. No, I just thought she was brilliant. Yeah, I really enjoyed it. There were parts where exactly like I said before, the CGI was a little dodgy.

Chris Pine was great. I mean, he was the same character that he is in everything. Yeah, he's pining about. Yeah, pining about. But I thought he was handsome enough and funny enough and that scene in the cave was quite great. I thought that was, I know that was kind of cliche, but it was funny and fun. Did you think it was fun?

Like, have you seen Batman, Superman and Suicide Squad? You know what? I haven't. Right, okay. Because you came back and said that was so terrible that I just thought I had no time. No, no, I don't think you'd like them. I think maybe you'd probably like, ugh.

See, I like The Dark Knight. Yeah. And I love that side of it. And you didn't hate some of Man of Steel? No, I enjoyed Man of Steel. Right, yeah. I did. I enjoyed it.

Yeah. But I just didn't see them mainly because I have a child and I didn't have time. And he won't let you. And you wouldn't let me out of the house to see them. That's how we do things in this household. That is how. But I did see some of the shorts of her in that film though. Right, yeah.

Kicking the shit out of everybody. Sure. And I really liked that. See, I thought this was a big improvement, I don't know if you agree, Mason, on what we saw of her in Batman Superman. Yeah, and it was nice to see her in the context of some real sets and some real action sequences where she's fighting actual people and not a weird plasticine ghost monster man.

You know what I mean? Sure. That was nice. It was nice to see. You know, and again, like the CGI got a little ropey towards the end there, you know, and that final battle was kind of. Oh, it was very fireworks-y in the background. Yeah, and I think, but, but I don't know.

I was like, look, if we look at this as a lot of it was kind of symbolic as opposed to literal. Like there's the bit where, you know, Ares is like, go and crush everybody and then she just sort of runs through a million soldiers and beats them all up and kind of thing. Like that didn't have to look 100% pitch perfect because you can just go... Good thing.

Yeah, exactly. You know, because you could be like, oh, it's sort of real and it's sort of a metaphor for her embracing the power of war or something. Right, sure, yeah. Yeah, yeah, I get what you're saying. Right. Yeah, I also just really liked the sort of semi-slow motion things with their hair flying and the fire in the background.

Some of that worked for me, some of it didn't. I think maybe, I don't know, I just, I think because i grew up not having that kind of role model i know you talk a lot about how you had um christopher raves as superman pop in all the time yeah yeah just over to the house for a cup of tea with your mom um and your dad he was having sex with my parents that's that's what i'm like just a lot of superman threesomes happened in your childhood wow nothing sass anyway and i know you talk a lot about him being a role model for you as a child and then a grown human man right that's very yeah absolutely well we we had that kind of growing up mason we had a lot of these male superheroes and there hasn't been there's

been a few and a lot of them have been in like team movies like black widow obviously yeah excellent yeah but this is it's weird that yeah it's weird that this is called wonder woman it can it can be called wonder woman because the first batman movie was 89 the first superman movie was 78 and they were called batman superman but it's 2017 and they didn't have to call it something else other than Wonder Woman because they'd never been the one. See, that's so crazy to me. It still blows my mind that that's actually true. Yeah, it blows my mind that we've reached,

like it's taken until 2017 to break that. Like 2017 and 2016 have broken a lot of weird stereotypes of like the movie industry has gone like, well, nobody will ever watch a horror movie with like a black protagonist or whatever. And then Get Out makes hundreds of millions of dollars or like. Have you seen that? No, I still haven't.

It's good. Yeah, I know. Or like that'll never sell in China because they wouldn't buy a black protagonist and then it opens at number one or whatever. And it's the same with this. It's like no one will watch a movie with a female protagonist. Of course they will. Yeah.

Yeah, exactly. Well, half the cinema-going audience is female. Women love the cinema. You're a woman and you know women. Well, see, this is what I find really funny. For some reason there is sometimes still a perception that women, so, you know, chick flicks and women films are like a niche when they're like 50% of the film going population.

Yeah. They only watch movies with Gerard Butler and Katherine Heigl. Yeah. Well, yeah, exactly. Oh, man. I don't mind Gerard so much. Anyway. Oh, you know him.

You're on First Aid Base. Yeah. He came around with Christopher Reeves. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Yeah. Definitely, yeah. He came around with Christopher Reeves. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Yeah, I think they sell women short a lot, that they only want to watch a certain type of film. Sure, yeah.

I think. And just going back to that whole role model thing, even the way that we've seen a lot of strong female leads in Star Wars, even in Beauty and the Beast with Emma Watson. Yeah, they changed Belle's gender. She was male in the original and they switched it and everybody was really upset. Everyone got real upset.

No, but even just, and this is a side track. When's there going to be a men and bestiality film? You know what I mean? Well, come on. Yeah, if the roles were reversed, it probably wouldn't work, would it? Anyway, what I loved about her character and what I think we saw in this film too was that we moved away from the stereotype of women having to have tiny waists and be super fragile

and her character Belle in that film doesn't wear corsets and has a brain that she uses and is a really interesting and funny and complex character. And I really liked that about Wonder Woman too. I know it sounds funny that body type is a thing but I think for women, if you look in comic books and just more regularly in the mainstream media, it's very rare for you to actually see your own body type reflected. Do you know what I mean?

In comic books, they're all exactly the same. I mean less so now but as the standard form, if you saw like a female superhero in silhouette, a lot of the time you couldn't tell who it was. Yeah. If they don't have a cape or like a head thing, you'd be like, I don't know who that is. Yeah, she's got giant boobs and like a tiny waist, which, you know, that's great too.

That's a body type. But I just think it's really nice to see a diversity of women just as there is a diversity of blokes in film. And I think for young girls growing up, seeing a role model, a film like that and having an aspirational, strong and powerful woman in the film is really exciting. Like I think you said on your YouTube review, James. Go on.

Well, you said this movie is pretty good, but it's not a game changer not in terms of storytelling yeah but and i'd say maybe not in terms of us watching it but i think it would it is definitely a game changer in terms of women yeah watching watching you know or young women watching a film and going like that's me yeah exactly yeah brandishing a sword all right steady on yeah come on let's not go too far all right yeah there was one thing i did say to james which i thought i found interesting you're sleeping on the couch you're sleeping on the couch again you're in the dog house with the dog i predicted which always happens in films with a strong female character who's attractive and really smart. And they always have to offset that with her either not,

like not being able to walk in a straight line or fall over or be bumbling somehow. And I mean, I guess they do that too. You know, they did that with Thor as well, but they always do it with every strong female character. There's always a flaw.

Like she is terrible with relationships or whatever or bumbling. And in this, it just happened. She couldn't walk through the elevator and she just banged her sword into it. And I just thought this woman could speak, what, like all the languages in the whole world, but she can't walk through an elevator door with a sword. Sure. And look, that is obviously played for comedic effect.

I know, and it was funny. Yeah, but there is a lot of movies where like, you talk about this as well, Mason, where it's a woman trying to get her boots on in the morning to get to her high-powered job and she's hopping around her apartment. Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

I did think, well, I initially thought that her, like one of her flaws was going to be like that she's going into man's world and she's so naive about the ways of love or what have you. Yeah. And I thought like the movie was going to man's world and she's so naive about the ways of love or what have you. And I thought like the movie was going to take advantage of that and she's going to be like this babe in the woods, like, oh, I don't know what life is about, but then they're on the boat and she's like, I've read about that.

I know what's going on. I'm not an idiot. Dicks you're talking about. Yeah, dicks. Exactly. I actually did. I thought they addressed that really well. And I think maybe because it was directed by a woman too,

it might have given that more of an insight. I liked that whole scene actually. I thought it was really well done and it walked that fine line of showing her innocence but also showing that she knew what it was all about and I thought that was great. So would you give it a... I heard that. Out of our two possible rating systems, would you give it a... I heard that. Out of our two possible rating systems,

would you give it a best movie ever? Yeah. You've got to give it a best movie ever made. I have to, do I? Yeah. How dare you? Or you're in the doghouse. Get out into the doghouse.

In the cold. No, I really enjoyed it. And I also really enjoyed the fact that I made you take a photo on the red carpet and then they searched you for cameras. They did. I think it was because I was wearing a big coat. You just look suspicious. I look shady, but they wanded me.

Nobody else was getting wanded except for Mary. Yeah, they took him aside. The old wand in the butt. Yeah, it was right up there. Yeah, he didn't have a uniform on. I don't know. Where can people find you though, Claire? You've got stuff going on.

You won't take my last name in real life, but you're still my last name for Twitter. Well, I will. Shameless. Jumping on the back of my popularity. Yeah, I know. Our popularity, mate. Yes, I know.

Shameless, that's me. You can find me at www.shameless.com. I think that's a TV. That's probably a porn. It's probably something. I'll just double check that. We'll edit that out.shameless.com. I think that's a TV. That's probably a porn. It's probably a porn. I'll just double check that. I'll just double check that. Let it out. It's fine.

No, so you can find me at- Yeah, don't go to that. Don't you? Is it terrible? Yeah, it's real bad. Oh, no. Oh, no. Anyway, so go on.

Quick, let's buy.com.au and see what happens. No, so you can find me on Twitter at MrsSundayMovies or Claire20. But I'm also starting a podcast. Well, I have. I've started. No, so you can find me on Twitter at MrsSundayMovies or Claire Tonti. But I'm also starting a podcast. Well, I have. I've started. And it's called Just Make the Thing. And it's really just about how to start making a thing and keep on making it because I am historically terrible at that particular thing.

Yeah, you are. Thanks. I love how you have my back over there, husband man. Well, he's in a bind there because he can't be like no no you're great at making it there why would you make a podcast about it because you're good at it or even you've thrown him under the bus either way good work that was excellent that was excellent wifing there well i'll link i'll link that below uh but yeah yeah you do it with your friend chanel or is a mutual friend of ours and so it's a discussion of you guys well it's you talk about building planet broadcasting because you are the driving

force behind it and getting all i'm driving the bus you absolutely are falling under but we're sitting at the back of the bus aren't we mason like cool kid like throwing fruit out the back of it that's not true i never did that i would i would never do that that's how you guys met and so you and chanel talk but also every – well, Chanel is also starting – is running her own business as well, starting that up. And then you want to get guests on and the like. Is that the idea? Yes, it is.

And who's your first guest probably? Well, I don't know. Some dude. I don't know. I was thinking of asking you. It's probably Gerard Butler. Yeah, I know. But then Gerard Butler came along and I thought, hey, yes.

If you can pry him off my parents, baby. That's right. I thought that was Christopher Reeves. If you can pry him off my parents, baby. That's right. I thought that was Christopher Reeves. Your parents really get around. They're the ones. They love getting cucked. That's what his parents are all about. Oh, goodness.

Okay, so, well, other than Christopher Reeves or Gerard Butler, I'm going to interview you about how you make your thing, and then I'll interview other people too. Absolutely. So just I'm really fascinated by what drives people to create things. And I know people in the community as well all make things. That's right, yeah. They make so many cool things.

And so I'd love to hear about those things too. So tweet me about it. And I just I think it's really interesting to kind of listen to So I'd love to hear about those things too. So tweet me about it. And I think it's really interesting to kind of listen to and find out why people create things and how they keep creating them because I have this habit where I have a whole lot of ideas and I'm really excited to start them and then I never finish anything. So this could do two episodes. Yeah, it definitely could do.

No, no, no. But that's part of it. I think keeping myself accountable. And I also love roping other people in. That's why Planet Broadcasting is still going. Because I've roped everybody in and they all keep me accountable. Cool. So that's kind of what we're doing. Awesome.

Tracking my journey. All right. Well, I'll link all that below. Also, you're going to Europe this week. Leave me alone with a kid. I am. Two whole weeks of freedom. Mason, you're going to have to move in.

Oh, sure, yeah. We're going to do that awkward parenting thing. Oh, fantastic. We're going to assemble those bunk beds. It's going to be great. Finally. No, I am leaving because I'm going to speak at a fancy podcast conference in Copenhagen. You weaseled your way into it.

Yeah, I did. I weaseled my way in the back door. I'm going to try and record some interviews over there too. Sweet as. And I feel like they're all just going to tell me to get out. But anyway, I'm going to try and record some interviews over there too. Sweet as. And I feel like they're all just going to tell me to get out. But anyway, I'm there. Look, if they don't understand that there's no point having a conversation unless it's being recorded for content,

they have no business being in a podcast conference. If you ask me. All right. Thanks for stopping by, Claire. No worries. I will go now. Should we move on to the next thing? Oh, our famous segment, What We're Reading.

What We're Going to Read. Before we get into that, actually, can we just put a hold on that for just one second? Let's put a pin in it. This segment is rattling in my hand. I'm holding that spoon thing on the side of the segment, What We Read and What We're Going to Read. And if I let go of it at any moment, we've got three seconds to get into What We Read and What We're Going to Read, or else we're going to explode.

Fair enough. But I do have some Wonder Woman hate mail. I know we just did hate mail, but the hate has an eight in it. Great. But any time I do a review where I don't completely love or completely hate something, then obviously you're going to get some kind of backlash. Hate mail is a segment where I read eight pieces of hate mail from the internet, from my YouTube comments, but it's never eight.

But it is always hate, isn't it? Yeah. It's probably for the best. All right, here we go. This is from Aliens Exist. Bold statement, but all right. I've watched a few videos, regrettably, and you seem like a big Marvel fanboy.

Do you really need to put good, not great in the title like you didn't want to admit it or something? What does that mean? That's literally you admitting it. I put that in the title, like you didn't want to admit it or something. What does that mean? That's literally you admitting it. I put that in because I'm like, maybe people don't want to watch it. Fair enough. There's my thing. That's what I think.

This is from Maxim. Fuck you for pretending to like a shit movie. Good point. Is he referring to Wonder Woman or just generally? No, these are all Wonder Woman related. Okay, right. Because it's the first female superhero-led one. Movie was borderline unwatchable to the point that it might have been better if it was some

feminist propaganda or a dumb comedy. What's going on there? I don't know. It's almost like different people have different opinions of films. No. Fuck you, Max. Sorry, me specifically. Yeah, you specifically.

Yeah. From Kalo B. Couldn't finish your video, bro. Your voice is okay. Not good. Try again when your balls drop. It's not going to happen now, I mean. No, it's too late.

It's too late, isn't it? They're wedged way up there. This is Rinstinkt. Oh, wow. You've drawn a lot of hate with an eight this week. I have. Piece of shit Marvel fanboy. Nice. Good. That's you Marvel fanboy. Nice, good, that's you.

Silver Tongue. So, wait, so people this time around, yeah, they're very mad at you for liking Marvel too much. But also not liking, no. But also not hating this. But not hating this, yeah. Right. It's a very narrow, ever-shifting band,

and if you're not in it, they hate you, which is good. So this is from Silver Tongue 101. That's not a bad username i like that yeah oh wow this review was very wrong either that or they only pretended to have seen the film i was just gonna say when was the last time someone accused you of only pretending to see a film yeah so there you go yeah uh this one's from mr shia uh that chris reeve comment was basically stolen from Chris Stuckman's review. Hack. All the YouTube reviews went up at the same time as well. Fantastic.

The embargo, but yeah. I didn't see that review until after. Wait, so what they're saying is that only this other guy has seen Superman. Yes. And the thing with the bullet thing, right? Yeah, that's correct. Even though you, as a child, saw Superman.

That's right. And have remembered it, and it's one of your most defining childhood movie memories. Yeah, but I don't remember it. You don't remember it, though. That's what I thought, yeah. That's what I figured. This isn't a great bit of hate mail, but I like the username. The username is better than you.

Yeah, very good. That's good they got that. And it just says this channel is overrated trash. Nice. Lone Wolf says, it says 97 of rotten tomatoes and you're talking about marvel movies good not great i smell a marvel fanboy boom that's you yeah also we talked about rotten tomatoes before 97 it could still be a lot of people who didn't love it but liked it it's it's it's that's yeah exactly i'm not gonna get it people don't understand it's just if you said it was overall but good and whatever that counts as a fresh yeah it can be not it can be 100 fresh because 100 people out

of 100 said yeah this was like a six out of ten this was six out of ten 100 fresh yeah exactly this is from isabel so women can be hateful too, Mason. Oh, yeah. Bitch, this movie was awesome. Shut up. This is from Pineapple Tart. In fairness, you are a bitch. I know.

Pineapple Tart. Always got to be one reviewer to clickbait by going against the grain. Do I go against the grain? Well, which way are you going against the grain? I don't know. I think at this point you're going against the grain because you didn't say it was great. Okay, right. Gotcha. But later on you might be going against, like the reviews might switch the other way.

It's very possible. And then you might be being a bitch for being against the grain. No, that was the other person who called me a bitch. Oh, no. They were replying you're a bitch there. Okay. This is from a whole lot of Asian symbols that I can't read. Could be Chinese or Japanese.

I don't know. I'm sorry. Could be Korean. Could be Korean. Are there any little circles? No. Okay. Could be Chinese or Japanese. I don't know. I'm sorry. Could be Korean. Could be Korean. Are there any little circles? No. Okay, then it's not Korean. Okay.

Yeah, it's pretty good. Not great. What an arrogant piece of shit you are, LMFAO. After going through your review, I think you are a fucking hypocrite moron, TBH. DK, why I even subbed to you in the first place. Can you ask him why he did? Ask him specifically what video he caused him. I'd have to find the comment.

And I can't search for it because I can't find that username. Oh, yeah. This is from Music. So just Music. The concept of Music, sure. The concept of Music. Maybe the band The Music. Do you remember that?

It's Madonna's album Music. Oh, is that a good one? No. Oh, that's okay then. Some of it's all right. Okay. She's got a good producer on it. Six out of ten? Yeah, six out of ten. album, Music. Oh, is that a good one? No. Oh, that's okay then. Some of it's all right. Okay. She's got a good producer on it. Six out of ten?

Yeah, six out of ten. Okay, good. Another pathetic hater trying to sound different by hating on Wonder Woman. Fuck this review. And don't you fucking dare try to praise the shit-fest Captain Marvel when it drops, or I'll expose your ass, bitch. Jeez, all right. Sorry, or I'll expose your bitch ass.

Well, a lot of people are calling you a bitch this week. This is a good week for hate mail. Also, he's pre-written his Captain Marvel review, and it's not coming out for, like, years. Yeah, it's like two years away. Jeez. Gee whiz, this guy. No, music.

Oh, yeah, music. Music got you there. That's true, yeah. Look, as an entire form of entertainment, I guess it's qualified. Absolutely. I love the spectrum, though, of that. I love hate mail with that spectrum. You mean you love that all those people are on the spectrum?

Yeah, that's what I enjoy, yeah. No, I love when you don't like it enough for you. I got the same thing for some of my best hate mail came from one of my Fast and Furious reviews. I was like, this this is great but it's also the dumbest thing in the world sure right yeah anyway now it really is time for what we're reading what we're gonna read yeah love it i'm doing the thing what are we reading today i haven't read it, but I've got it ready to go. Okay.

I've got a couple of issues. I was recommended this from the Serious Issues comic book group. Good podcast. Good podcast. They have a Facebook group where they discuss comic books.

Interesting. And someone who I forget who it was, but they recommended a comic book called Spencer and Locke, which is essentially hard-boiled, gritty detective Calvin and Hobbes.

Does one have a cat's head yeah so the idea is that it's um it's about a detective and his former like sweetheart from like primary school is turns up murdered right and he has to turn in order to solve the crime like he takes it on in order to solve it he has to go to the only person who can which is his imaginary friend from when he was a kid. Very good. So it's like Calvin and Hobbes, except there's murders.

That's great. Yeah, so the art looks... It's got some kind of, like, if you can see that, it's got some sort of Calvin and Hobbes-style flashbacks kind of thing. But then murders.

Then murders. Yes, I'm really looking forward to that. Do go on to the... On Bill Watterson. Bill Watterson this week. Calvin and Hobbes, that's why. It all came together. I think it's Watterson. Or is Bill Watterson Bill Watterson Calvin Hobbes that's why it all came together I think it's Watterson

or is it Watterson am I three for three Mason Watterson it's Watterson okay it's Bal Watterson Bal Watterson Bal Watterson

very good Mason I'm all over the shop this week oh yes should I edit this in earlier or just leave it here who cares do whatever you feel

okay so this is I want to some people wrote in with some Wonder Woman opinions bugger it we'll just leave it here? Who cares? Do whatever you feel. Okay, so this is... I wanted some people to write in with some Wonder Woman opinions. Bugger it. We'll just put them in here. Who cares? I don't think there's any spoilers in this. So if you've dropped back in after the non-spoilers, welcome back.

Here we go. This is from The Roy. Just saw Wonder Woman. Loved it. Definitely a step in the right direction for DC and a challenge to the MCU. I would agree with that. This does edge it a bit closer to what Marvel are doing. This is from CJ Volz.

Wonder Woman's Act 1 and 2 were great and empowering. Act 3 went a little off the rails, though. Overall, best DCEU movie yet. Agreed. Hannah. Loved Wonder Woman, especially how it subverted the usual superhero gender roles without reducing

men to buffoons John something says when saw Wonder Woman one of you one of the guys I saw it with fell asleep

so that tells you how it was 6 out of 10 that's still a positive review though that's true that's edging up on 100% fresh baby

this is from Evan just saw the wonderful woman and I can't help but wonder why it had so much or on tomatoes that's edging up on 100% fresh baby this is from Evan just saw The Wonderful Woman and I can't help but wonder why it had so much slow-mo hashtag just a movie

did have a little weird slow-mo not a lot I think because they had to I think they were like okay listen we have faith in you

as the director Patty Jenkins but you also have to adopt some of the stylings of the Snyderverse yeah the Snyderverse, I think. And they're like, listen, you need slow-mo and fire.

Then why isn't there any in Man of Steel? Well... Done it. Okay. Yeah. It's from Dempsey. Wonder Woman was a better Superman than Superman. Her movie was able to accomplish the one job of a superhero,

to inspire... I was able to accomplish the one job of a superhero to inspire i was gonna say property damage uh scale property damage serotonin just a wonder woman loved it lots of incredible uh cheesy slash under undeliverable lines but uh gave it a pass for the uh excelling in for excelling in everything else and this from zach Zach Vanderbush. Just a Wonder Woman. Felt like a cross between Captain America and Thor. Definitely the best DCEU movie. There you go.

Best movie ever, he says. All right, getting back to the What We Reading, Mason. I'm What We Reading. I finished Ephesus Family on Netflix. Oh, yeah. That's Bill Burr's... I guess it's... I'm going to say it's like The Simpsons because it's animated. But it's a 1970s family and it's like The Simpsons because it's animated but it's it's a 1970s family

and it's a terrible universe where you know everything's you know your job sucks and you're unemployed and whatever and everyone's screaming

at each other and swearing but I love it Who's the dad? It's Bill Burr Bill Burr I think it's really good because the dad looks like

Patrick Wilson from like Watchmen Yeah he does He's got the too much hair on the sides and he's all fat and depressed. But no, have you seen it before?

No, I haven't. Yeah, there's two seasons now on Netflix. It's definitely worth checking out. And I'm also going through Game of Thrones. I'm up to season two. I'm going to watch them all before the new season drops. Here's some Game of Thrones news for you, Mason.

Yes. The last season, which is, I think, eight might be pushed back a year. So we'll get one this year and then the final I think, eight might be pushed back a year. So we'll get one this year. And then the final six episodes, we might have to wait a year. You don't care, though, do you? Because you're just like, whatever. Yeah, I don't care.

Exactly. You're absolutely correct. Got anything else that you're reading or what you're reading? Nah, it's been a quiet week for me. Then give me some bloody theme song, mate. Okay. I will do that. Theme to our new next segment.

It's called Letters. The classic one was, Letters, oh letters, we love you. Some letters, they're only a day away. I know they're here right now. We're going to do Letters. In honour of DC making a movie. Oh, yes.

My two tweets are DC related. Hello. I trust that your letter is also. Yes, it is. Yes. It's almost like we coordinated. We didn't though. We never do.

Yeah. Do you want to go first or do you want me to go first? I'll go first. So this is from Dale Cleland. Dear James and May, so it's his 21st birthday this weekend. Happy. Happy birthday. He's hoping for a shout out and some of your classic Australian slaggings.

Shut up! Stop piss-farting around, you drongo. What did your ruder didgeridoo? You've got a face like a sucked mango. You've got a head like a kicked-in knee. Yeah. Anyway, hi. Happy birthday.

Anyway, Dale says, because this is something I didn't think of until just now, but it's true. Who would you like to see as the role of, I think we've talked about this before, but I think it's relevant now. Yeah. Who would you like to see as the role of Greenland in the DCEU? Because. Yeah.

The new. This is my tweet. I got a tweet about that as well. Because the new DC, the DC, uh, studios. It's hard to say, isn't it? What's it called? The DC. DC EU.

The new DC movie title sequence thing has every member of the current Justice League, and then at the end we get Green Lantern. Uniting the Seven. Yeah, right. So clearly he is the Seventh. It's not Martian Manhunter. He's the Seventh member of the Justice League, as we were promised to unite the Seven, but that never happened.

No. Now. Yet. So in the thing we see how we see a green lantern looks like hal jordan but also we see an aquaman that looks like classic this is exactly what i said in my video that's what i'm talking about so also we're getting green lantern core which means we'll probably get a hal jordan and a john stewart yeah and a sinestro but which is the one we're going to get first though yeah is the question who do you think uh do you think i'm gonna go classic

dale is holding out hope for an Idris Elba Jon Stewart. Right, yeah. Although it will never happen, he says, but it might. Yeah, it might. Does he ever non-compete Claus with Marvel? I don't know. Well, Josh Brolin, what's his name? He's Thanos and he's also Cable.

Yeah. So, you know. And he's also somebody in the Sin City universe, right? Yeah. One of Marv? I don't know. He's not Marv. A mayor or something?

Yeah. Or a crooked businessman? Or one of those sexy ladies wearing fishnets that hangs out on a rooftop? All of those things are possible. One of those, yeah. He might be the character Clive Owen plays before surgery.

Right. I haven't seen... Is he in Sin City 2? I don't know. Don't email him. Yeah. So Josh Brolin is the answer. Yes.

He would be a good Green Lantern. Yeah, right. You've said before you want a slightly older Green Lantern who's been off in the universe and comes back and goes, what the answer. Yes. It would be a good Green Lantern. Yeah, right? You've said before you want a slightly older Green Lantern who's been off in the universe and comes back and goes, what the fuck? Yeah. What happened?

Look, I very much like the idea in the DCEU that it's been insane in this world for 20 years. Yeah. But for some reason, some people don't know this. I like the idea we're being thrown in this universe, but it doesn't really make sense if you consider man of steel right because people like this was just a normal world and then suddenly superman's here but if you go up to suicide and then with with batman superman it's like yeah some weird stuff's been happening for a while and then suicide squad it's

just like everything's crazy that's one thing i did like about suicide it was really good at expanding characters yeah and so we've got magic and mutants and all sorts of stuff. That's one thing I really enjoy. So yeah, I like the idea of, yeah, this older Hal Jordan who went off into space before any of this kicked off.

Yeah. And he... He thinks he's the only weird one. He thinks, yes, that would be great. And he's like, I'm going to show back up and look at me with my magic ring.

Oh, there's a crocodile man and a magic sword and a giant monster destroyed metropolis and everybody can fly is there anybody normal left i don't i don't know anymore i would like that i don't know oh 100 yeah but i don't know nathan fillians would be a good hal jordan like an older hal jordan sure yeah he's wonder man now allegedly well allegedly well he's not not officially so it's very possible. People have been throwing up the name of Tom Cruise, but he's in the Dark Universe universe.

I don't think he'll jump over. If you said to Tom Cruise, you can be a small part of this franchise or you can be the linchpin of a new franchise that's yours and you can be the king of this franchise by being the guy from The Mummy. Does that mean he from The Mummy. He'd choose to ride motorcycles. Does that mean he's The Mummy? No, the female mummy is The Mummy. No, but I mean, isn't it weird, though, that the Dark Universe, like the team, is going to consist of a Frankenstein's monster and a wolfman and a creature from the Black Lagoon and a vampire.

And Russell Crowe. And Russell Crowe. And then just a guy who met The Mummy once. No, I've said this before. I think he's got to turn out to be Van Helsing. Or maybe he's given mummy powers. Mummy powers, right, yeah. Or whatever.

He turned into sand. He turned into sand. Yeah, exactly. What about Channing Tatum as Guy Gardner? Yes. That'd be good, right? Give him the bowl cut as well. Yeah, right?

Because he's got a big dumb head. He's got a big dumb head. He looked good with a bowl cut. He's got a big dumb head, and he's very likable, despite the fact, like like he could play a real jerk and people like i still love him though a hundred percent yeah would you i don't think we get him first yeah well he's not i don't know if he's he's supposedly doing gambit but what's happening there who knows yeah what if we got mogo the planet green lantern that's the first

that's the first one and it just arrives in earth's orbit like just and it's just like i'm here to help the justice league of fighting you know lex luther or what you know the the dark side or whatever and mogo's just slowly floating around the planet trying to get a trying to get a beat on somebody to zap him with the ring um oh no you went you you flew about okay hang on give me another minute guys hang on there's cloud coverage. This is from Trey Tobisow, and it ties into what you're talking about. How did you guys like the new DC logo intro in Wonder Woman?

Was it much needed? Too much? Or who cares? I didn't love the design of all of it. Yep. It was a little bit Alex Ross, but also not Alex Ross enough. And it was also a bit Justice League Unlimited.

Yes. Where they show all the seven original members and then they float in every potential superhero they have. I tried to get a bead on who was there, but I only kind of caught Hawkman and maybe Hawkgirl. I was going to say there's some Hawks in there. Yeah, and Green Arrow. Yeah.

I was trying to spot Martian Manhunter. I bet he's in there. I don't think that necessarily, though, says we're going to see all these people. No, absolutely not. But I think it's interesting that they're acknowledging that there's a lot of stuff we can do. And I think with Wonder Woman as well, I think the sequel to this is going to take priority over, say, something that's kind of sort of coming along. Like, where's Shazam at? I don't really know.

Exactly, yeah. I think we're going to see another one of these in like two years. Yeah. Yeah, cool. Or not. But they could trial a new character in Wonder Woman 2 if they wanted to. Yeah, exactly. Anyone in particular?

Well, maybe they could throw in... The planet! Get the planet! Get the planet! Oh, you're fighting some gods down there? Do you want me to... Do you want me to... I don't know why the...

Okay, no, the planet's orbited slightly. I can't see anymore. Hang on. Oh, you're on Themyscira? No, I can't see that. It's an invisible island. Magic, I don't understand it. I'm a planet.

Yeah, we're good. So he's Earth's protector, a planet. Yeah, exactly. He's our sector's Green Lantern. And he's like, I'm protected. And everybody's like, move out of the way of the sun. Stop eclipsing. We're trying to grow crops here.

Get out of the way. Not all of us are in a pitch battle with dark side. Oh, sorry. Sorry. I'd say that. I would 100% say that. Me too. But that's what I'm hoping for in the Green Lantern movie.

How many weird versions of Green Lantern there are? So many. There's so many. Would you like to see all the other lanterns? We sort of saw that in... They kind of ruined it in the last movie because we saw a lot of them. We saw the...

What's the big muscular monster one? I meant more, do you want to see all the other lantern cores? Like the red lanterns and the yellow lanterns? I think you couldn't really do it initially. No. It's probably too much. It's way too much. A lot of people probably know who Green Lantern is by now.

And if you introduced him in a full-on Justice League movie, you could then do a Green Lantern movie with that. If you know who he is, you're like, oh, yeah, he's great. He's got a ring. He can do whatever. Yep. Then the next one, the yellow lanterns turn up or whatever. I guess that's true, yeah.

The Sinestro call. Yeah, there's a lot to get through, I guess. Also, you can get Mark Strong back. Who cares? Yeah, he was the... How could you do it? How could anyone else be there? Doesn't matter. They nailed call. Yeah, there's a lot to get through, I guess. Also, you can get Mark Strong back. Who cares? Yeah, how could anyone else be there? Doesn't matter. They nailed that. They nailed nothing else about that film,

but they nailed Mark Strong and Sinestro. It was great. As I said before, there's just a whole lot of big-headed aliens and monsters in that movie, but Mark Strong is the best of the bunch. Good work. This is from Connor McGinnis. Wow. That's the best of the bunch. Good work. This is from Connor McGinnis.

Wow. That's a Scottish or Irish name if I've ever heard one. After Injustice 2, do you think the Brainiac could be in a DC film or is he too weird? Who could play him? Now, I've got a list of people who have played him before. Yes. And I genuinely think that any of these people could fill this role. Bring bring him back yeah okay okay so john noble played him in superman unbound

okay do you know him he's from fringe as well he's from one of the lord of the rings oh is he is he the old the the professor in fringe i've never seen fringe okay but i just think he's in fringe but he might not be okay yeah i suppose again it depends on which version of brainiac we get right like if we get the skeleton robot guy it could be anyone because you just do the voice. But I think, have you seen Superman Unbound or read Superman Brainiac? No. The comic? It's great.

The real Brainiac shows up on Earth. Right. It's after years of Superman fighting Brainiac robots and it's the actual Brainiac. Oh, the green one? The green one, yeah. Right. And they get in a fight and there's candy on this. And it's also a really good way to introduce Supergirl as well

if you want to introduce her because she plays a big part of that in that movie. But James Masters played him in Smallville. That would work. I didn't see it. But he also played Piccolo. He played Green Piccolo. So you know he's up for it, isn't he?

And Lance Hendrickson played him in Superman Brainiac Attacks. Ooh. Might be a little bit old, but... Yeah, right? CGI, right? Yeah, CGI. Exactly, yeah. You can make him a big green man.

Yeah. But he's got that kind of... We look at him when he played the robot that one time. He's got that disconnect from... That's true, he does. ...from humanity. So he could absolutely do it. But no, would you like to see Brainiac in a film?

Yeah, I think that could totally work. I think that's where there's a good chance they you like to see Brainiac in a film? Yeah, I think that could totally work. I think that's where there's a good chance they're going to do Brainiac next for Superman. But it would also mean that the last Superman movie was an alien ship shows up. I was just thinking that, actually, yeah. As much as I'd like to see it, they might not do it because they did it already.

Yeah, maybe. Yeah, as soon as I was like, oh, that would be good, but then I'm like, okay, World engine and big ships coming down and etc that's kind it's kind of a rehash maybe you know what i would like maybe he goes somewhere else you've been saying that for as long as the this podcast has been happening yeah exactly i was gonna say as long as the day is long but that is not an expression and also not not that long. Yeah, maybe he goes somewhere and he has to liberate a different planet from Brainiac and then we can see some alien races

and we can see... And then it's not an invasion. Right. He's already there. And then you could do an invasion later potentially. Yes, yeah. Well, that would also be... I was going to say,

is that going to work because it's just Superman and a bunch of aliens but Thor Ragnarok is... There's no humans in that except for the Hulk Well, that would also be, I was going to say, is that going to work because it's just Superman and a bunch of aliens, but Thor Ragnarok is, there's no humans in that except for the Hulk who's barely a human. Yeah, look, I think potentially the next Superman movie is going to hinge very much on maybe what Thor Ragnarok does. Right, yeah. Like if it makes a billion dollars, they might be like.

It will absolutely make a billion dollars. People like this alien world stuff, so maybe we'll throw some of that in. But we'll give it less personality. Oh, very good. What about Bryan Cranston as Brainiac? Yeah. He's a good Zordon. He was a good Zordon, yeah.

No, he might be a little too earthy for Brainiac. Because even as Zordon, he did feel like a dude. Like a dude. Like a dude in a pinboard. Yeah, I think you do need somebody who's a little bit got that kind of disconnect. What about Remy Malek from Mr. Robot? I've never seen Mr. Robot. Okay, never mind.

Is he the robot? He's the guy. If he's the robot, then that's perfect because a robot's not a man. A robot would do it, wouldn't it? Who else is a bit spacey then? Kevin Spacey. He played K-Pax. That's true, yeah.

I told you my Kevin Spacey story. Yes, and we can't say it on air for many reasons. We've gone over this. What else? Who else is quite aloof? I was going to say David Bowie. Oh, boy. Yeah.

He would be good. Yeah, that's true. Who's aloof? Tilda Swinton? Tilda Swinton is brainiac. I would say that. Yeah. I guess the problem is that.

Who's weird? Yeah. At a certain point, all the weirdos who are also good at dealing with green screen and special effects have been scooped up by somebody else. Right. So Tilda Swinton. I guess she's probably out of contract. I would imagine so.

Yeah. After Doctor Strange. Yeah. Anyway. Yeah. Any or none. Anybody at all. Yeah.

I think that's the show for this week, though. We did another show. Now, before you launch into all the things where people can find us, a couple of things. People have asked about the Q&A. Oh, yeah. Chris Clare is going away this week, as mentioned. I'm on my own for two weeks with a kid, which means I don't,

I'm barely going to be able to do the bare minimum to keep myself and him alive. So I'd say in the next two weeks it's probably not going to be able to do the bare minimum to keep myself and him alive. So I'd say in the next two weeks it's probably not going to happen. Okay. Are you okay with that, Mason? I'm fine with that. So I apologize. It's well overdue.

I know that. But if anything, when we do it next year, that's going to be even more overdue. Oh, you better believe it. By comparison, this will seem like a blink of an eye. It'll be out as quick as the day is long, which is very short. The thing is, Caravan of Garbage this week ties into The Mummy, which is also out this week.

We're going to be talking about that next week. I hope it's good. I really want it to be good. I want it to be a fun Tom Cruise action movie with Punch and Russell Crowe and whatever. The game you play, I won't spoil, but it's going up Tuesday. It is hilariously terrible. Fantastic. You were there.

I was there. I played it. There's some graphics like you've never seen, some action like you've never seen as the day is long. Unless you've played Tomb Raider. Yes, but it's spectacular. That's me on my YouTube channel if you want to see us make fun of a really terrible thing. Like, that is the definition of caravan of garbage. Garbage, absolutely. Yeah.

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