The Weekly Planet - 197 Best/Worst Movie To TV Adaptations (with Charlie Clausen)

Episode Date: August 7, 2017

Today we’re joined by TOFOP and Wolf Creek’s own Charlie Clausen to talk the best and worst TV shows adapted from films as well as ACTING.Plus we discuss the first review for Inhumans, Deathwish, the HBO Game Of Thrones hack, news Transformers animated films plus more Karate Kid! Thanks as always for listening.Visit https://www.planetbcasting.com for all of the podcast!TOFOP: https://goo.gl/u8t2v9Who’s A Skrull?: https://goo.gl/fdwKXhIt’s A Duck Blur: https://goo.gl/StqnBABeer Eye With Your Mates Guy: https://goo.gl/L6kM45Cake Boss Ralph Make A Wish: wish.org/dannyshaves11:35 First Inhumans review16:48 Deathwish trailer18:03 HBO hack21:45 New Transformers animated movies23:47 The Dark Tower TV series25:53 Karate Kid TV Series32:38 Wolf Creek and acting and movies and such44:55 Movies Turned Into TV Series1:36:33 What We Reading/What We Gonna Read1:44:53 Letters It’s Time For LettersAmazon affiliate link: https://amzn.to/35fPtYlPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesMr Sunday Movies YouTube Channel: https://goo.gl/lB90W2The Weekly Planet YouTube Channel: https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHFind our T-Shirts here: https://goo.gl/q6gE9C Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of The Weekly Planet. The Weekly Planet. Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of the Weekly Planet, official podcast of comicbookmovie.com. Good start, no pressure. Movies, comics, TV shows. My name is James Olsen. I'm just busy Sunday with me as always, my co-host, Nick Mason. I'm uncomfortable because I'm facing the wrong direction.

I always want to be able to see the door just in case somebody... Because of that big spider. Not really. Yeah, well, your seat is actually taken this week. You seem very uncomfortable, very unhappy. We've actually got a Charlie Clawson from Tofop. A Charlie Clawson? Did I say a Charlie Clawson?

It sounded like you said a Charlie Clawson. The Charlie Clawson from Tofop. I probably am. No, there is another Charlie Clawson. There was this kid called Charlie Clawson who would troll me on Instagram for like a year every time i would post something he would post in the comments hashtag same and and it was one of those things where i just should have let it slide but for some reason i don't maybe i'll hang over one day it was really bugging me yeah and so i direct messaged him and said look mate it's been a year of hashtag same please it's not fun anymore and then one of his mates commented

like he must have gone and cried to one of his friends he's about 12 yeah is he Australian I think American right yeah because then his mate had a go at me and was like you know you're a big shot celebrity like you shouldn't be like beating up on kids like this and I'm like well I am not a big celebrity that guy did that for a year though like that's a long time I mean that qualifies as trolling right I think so yeah I mean it's not offensive no it's just fucking? Hashtag so. I think so, yeah. I mean, it's not offensive. No. It's just fucking annoying. Who has the name of the two of you?

Who is Charlie Clawson, like on Instagram? We're both, I'm Charlie underscore Clawson. He's Charlie Clawson, one word. Okay, gotcha. Oh, okay, right, yeah. I was not confident enough that I would get Charlie Clawson just straight. Right. So I threw in the underscore because I was like, there's no way I'll get it. But I was foolish.

I was seeing that the entire time. I'm always envious of the organisational powers of anyone where all their social media has the same handle on it. Like every time there's a new Snapchat or a new Instagram, they get the name. You've got to have something unique or you've got to be in early and I'm none of those things. We had someone squat on Tofop for Twitter,

and we went back and forth, and then I trolled them for about a year until they gave it up. They went, listen, mate, that's enough, and you cried to Will. Hashtag not the same. How'd you get it? Did they give it up? Yeah, he just abandoned it, I think. I mean, he wasn't trying to charge money or anything. He was just sitting on it and wouldn't give it up yeah he just abandoned it I think I just sort of I mean I was he wasn't

trying to charge money or anything he was just sitting on it and wouldn't give it up I don't know what he was planning on doing

so it Tofop didn't stand for something else he wasn't he wasn't Johnny I never thought of that maybe he had his own business

idea that I bullied him out of as soon as I get this seed money together I'm gonna open Tofop cakes and it's gonna be

so some guy from Australia keeps harassing me 30 odd foot of pastry it's probably russell crowe but look you're you're from the world of podcasting obviously but that's not your only endeavor yes you're a famous actor man wow yeah you know relatively speaking well you're in a new international series wolf creek season two which is coming out i watched season one like a month ago yeah i'm a big fan of the wolf creek i did too i just started watching series one um last week You're in a new international series, Wolf Creek Season 2, which is coming out. I watched Season 1 like a month ago. I'm a big fan of the Wolf Creek series. I did too.

I just started watching Series 1 last week with my wife. Wait, you're in it, but you hadn't seen it? I hadn't seen the first series. I'd seen the first two films, but I hadn't seen the first series because they're not connected, I don't think. No. Apart from John Jarrett. But the first 10 minutes of series one is so violent.

Yeah, it's crazy. My wife and I are actually like, whoa, I don't know if I can watch this, and I'm in it. I was like, this is full on. So for those who don't know, it's directed by Greg McLean, who's made Rogue, the one about the killer crocodile. I remember it. Which I really like, which most people don't like.

Michael Vartan is in it. Michael Vartan. A-list is Michael Vartan. he's in it. Michael Vartan. Alias is Michael Vartan. That's right. He did Balco Express. The man who I think slept with half of Melbourne while he was here filming that. I know so many girls who had sex with him.

Like, it was bizarre. It was like he just came to town and impregnated the entire city. That's amazing. Good bloke? Yeah, he seemed like a really nice guy. Yeah. Likes dogs. I remember he came around to my house one day and

played with my dog and he seemed quite nice then he tried to make out with me that's not true michael michael vatan hashtag dog kisser harass him for a year uh but also i gotta say yeah so he's like i love greg mclean's work like a balco experiment i actually haven't seen it's good uh written by james gunn as well i went to the screening of that in LA where James Gunn was there. They did a Q&A afterwards. And if anyone hasn't seen Belko, the best way I could sort of – it's like an episode of Black Mirror. It's got that same kind of like hard edge sort of tech-focused satire to it.

But it's a fun, gory kind of romp. Like that's the nature of it. But then the Q&A a afterwards the guy who's emceeing it decided to ask the most hard-hitting question about like gun control in america yeah sure after like an audience full of horror fans have just been cheering like exploding heads and stuff like last two hours it's like way to not pick a fucking ground this is not what this is this is not your forum but uh so that's coming out it's actually screening well there's a screening happening uh now at melbourne film festival for anyone who's in town i think right yeah one oh sorry i think

i didn't so you're talking about i meant wolf creek oh is that what you're what are you talking about what am i talking about right okay things move fast here we're gonna keep it moving there's no time to talk about one thing we've got to sort of talk about another thing let's do this uh uh so wolf creek the series when is it coming out? Yeah, yeah. I don't think it's coming out until next year. Okay, right. I don't know. The rumor I heard was January next year.

Or at least they're having a launch in January next year. I doubt they'll have enough time to get it ready by. Yeah, it's actually a really good point. How much can you tell us about your character? Are you murdered? Are you murdered horribly? I can tell you that I'm an American. Ah, accents.

Yeah, which is great. Very good. Which has been really, really good. It's a tour bus, isn't it? That's what I'm an American. Ah, accents. Yeah, which is great. Very good. Which has been really, really good. It's a tour bus, isn't it? That's what I read about it. Yeah, so it's a busload of passengers in the Outback and you can probably guess. We should basically point out that the killer in Wolf Creek

is played by Australia's John Jarrett, who used to host Better Homes and Gardens. Yeah, and I worked with John Jarrett on The Cloud's Daughters years ago as well. Because you've been in like every Australian TV series. Have you been in Neighbours and Home and Away? Yep. Done them both.

The double. Not many people have done that. From Erinsborough to Summer Bay. That's the night I titled my autobiography. Mount Thomas. Spent some time in Mount Thomas. That's right. Acting sergeant.

Yeah. But so he's like deranged Crocodile Dundee, which I think is a great idea for a killer the only thing I don't like about him well aside from all the murdering is that the way he gets away

I'm like this fucking guy he's always one step out of the cops yeah yeah I think I mean I Greg

I've known Greg for like 20 years I remember he initially got rogue up first that film was meant to happen yeah first and then he had this horrible experience where he was fired off his own film where, you know,

they bought the script, he was attached and they fired him off it and tried to, you know, bring in another director, but then it fell apart. So Greg was like, I'm just going to go write something that I can shoot really cheaply, minimal characters, minimal locations. And that was Wolf Creek. And John Jarrett at that time was only really known as, you know, the funny guy on MacLeod's Daughters or The Better Homes and Gardens. Yeah, with Noreen Hazlehurst, who they were married to.

Greg's whole thing was he grew up in Bendigo, out in the country. He knows these kind of guys and it's like it's that lovable larrikin image where there's like a really dark understudy. Yeah, right. It's like this seething hostility towards outsiders and all that kind of stuff. And also, I think, in a purely aesthetic point of view, that image of the Akubra and the flannel and the rifle, like it looks great backlit.

You know what I mean? Like it's great for a movie poster. And they say that about a lot of the most iconic characters. You can recognize them from just the silhouette. Yeah. The Marshmallow Man from Ghostbusters. That's it. That's all I got. Freddy Krue silhouette. Yeah. The Marshmallow Man from Ghostbusters. That's it. That's all I got.

Freddy Krueger. Yeah. Robert Smith. Or Edward Scissorhands. Could be the same person. I don't know. Anybody with a hat. Willy Wonka or just an English gentleman.

Yeah, that's it. It's hard to tell. Well, look, we'll get into Wolf Creek more in a bit. Sure. Because it ties into the topic that we're doing. But are you happy if we run through a bit of the news? Sure, yeah. You know how this works, right?

Yeah, I know. Sweet as. So we just basically make fun of stuff. Yeah. Good. People who have had it too good for too long, bring them down a peg or two. That's right. Well, speaking of, Marvel's Inhumans, which it's going to the first couple episodes are

going to IMAX in September. Yeah. And then it's going to the first couple episodes are going to IMAX in September. Yeah. And then it's going to series later September. So can you bring me up to speed? Because what is the Inhumans? Is that a comic? Yeah. So it's like X-Men.

It's the X-Men knockoffs that Marvel are pushing because they don't own the rights. Are they in the universe of the X-Men? Yes. But they've been around for how long? You know this. Oh, many decades. But they're essentially. So specific.

Yeah. Many decades. And they're a bunch of interesting characters. They're like an offshoot of humanity who live on the moon, but they all have mutant abilities. And there's Medusa who has sort of prehensile hair, and there's Black Bolt who can't speak because his voice can knock down a mountain and et cetera.

And it's kind of... Teleporting dog. There's a teleporting dog called Lockjaw. And so essentially they all have similar enough powers that you can go, okay, we can't use the X-Men, we'll just bring in the Inhumans. And so this is kind of- Bylo.

They're Bylo X-Men, exactly. When I was a kid, you could get G.I. Joe. You could also get the Core, who were like the knockoffs. You could just buy it Safeway. So they're the core. Yeah. They're not quite as compelling and why, well, you know, depending on who you talk to, but they're not, but this is the first review of the, of the, of the series.

Simply awful. Too good for too long. I'm so disappointed since I generally, generally love everything Marvel does, but this is absolutely terrible. The dialogue is atrocious. The fight sequences are shockingly choreographed. The sets, or more so the obvious green screen, aren't that crash hot either. It's only saving Grace's Lockjaw, who is adorable, teleporting dog.

Right. And as one of the few people who actually liked Iron Fist, I can easily say that this is Scott Buck's worst work yet. Who's Scott Buck? He did Dexter, I think. Oh, right. He's a showrunner. He's a showrunner who also did Iron Fist.

Is the teleporting dog Lockjaw CGI or actual dog? And it looks okay from the trailers. It's also novelty sized. Oh, yeah. It's like the size of a small car. St. Bernard. Yeah. That's right, exactly.

It's Cujo. Yeah. Look, I don't think anybody's surprised by this. If you've seen any of the trailers, it's just flat lighting, generic sets. It looks cheap because the guy who runs Marvel Television television ike perlmutter is like notoriously frugal right but he but he's been trying to push this for years like it was supposed to be a movie with vin diesel which never happened so this is what we're getting and apparently that's probably for the best really yeah that's right exactly so we can thank god for that yeah i don't think

anybody's surprised or disappointed but hey maybe hey, maybe this is the first review. You never know. Okay, so why is that first review valid? Is it of someone of note or is it? I didn't write it down. I thought about it, but then I went, that one's going to ask. Mason wouldn't ask. Yeah, I wouldn't ask.

It's probably some jerk off the internet. Yeah, exactly. It's the same guy who hashtagged same to me, I bet. Yeah, that's right. When you make a TV series or a movie, because, you know, when we go to like a Marvel movie or we watch, you know, Wolf Creek or what have you, we see the finished product and we go, okay, this is great.

It's got, you know, good effects and sets and props and casting and script and whatever. But when you go and you're with a work, you were sort of making a work in progress. Do you ever go into like a movie or a TV show and be like, I don't know what this is going to be? Like you go in and there's green screen and there's stuff that isn't finished.

I've never really worked a lot with that kind of stuff. I haven't really done a lot with visual effects. I did. There was an episode of Blue Heelers. Here we go. See, there we go. This is early 2000s Australian CGI. Yeah, yeah.

Very excited. No, if anything with CGI, it's more like compositing. Right, okay. Because the plot line, a lion had escaped from the zoo and I had to like- There's a zoo in Mount Thomas? Of course there is, mate. It's a major country metropolitan area.

And so I had to hunt down this lion. And I remember at the time like they they couldn't actually get a line on set they didn't have the budget for it so they went and shot through the bars of a zoo an actual line it did not match like it didn't match the paddock we were shooting in yep and then i was meant to come around the corner find this line see it's injured and and be okay well it's a mercy killing i'll put it out of its misery. And so they told me, yeah, when you come around the corner, just aim the gun, fire it. And then when we do the reverse of the line, we'll comp that in later.

It's going to look seamless. I'm like, all right, let's see what this looks like. Wasn't seamless. It literally looked like in the early 80s, late 70s when the compositing would have like an outline. Right. And they also put some like CGI blood. That's great.

You can probably find that on YouTube, but it was terrible. It's just some blood out of Mortal Kombat. It's those big red gloves. Right. Yeah. Oh, that's incredible. Yeah. Yeah.

So Wolf Craig's more kind of blood bags and severed heads and shit like that? I think it's a mix. Okay. It's a mix. There's a lot of prosthetics, but then I think they, you know, it's just, it's so much easier and there's like plugins for stuff like muzzle flash. Yeah, right.

Exactly, yeah. I mean, you saw the last Expendables, right, where it was. Boy, did I. Yeah. Yeah, just because you can do it doesn't mean you should do it. I think if you use it to accent an effect, a practical effect, it can be really good. But if you're relying on, it then it looks like Sharknado.

It never looks good. Or it can not look good. Did you guys watch the Death Wish trailer with Bruce Willis? No, I saw the thumbnail. Does that count? That's good enough for me. Great. I didn't think it looked that bad, but I'm not a fan of...

I've never seen Death Wish. I understand there's been a bit of a backlash, right? Yeah, because you can't replace Charles Bronson. You certainly can't. Well, that's true. The guy who said he lost his virginity when he was seven or something yeah it was possible didn't he have one of those kind of like ernest hemingway type like existences where he's like bare knuckle boxing yeah exactly yeah hard drinking at 14 riverboat gambling all that sort of stuff he's also one of those guys where you he probably

doesn't know what year he was born. Like your dog. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So, I don't know. Look, I'm not incredibly upset about it, but it does at least look... I should have asked you guys to watch it. I should have mentioned this. But it does sort of look like Bruce Willis is trying a little bit because he's been phoning it in for...

Oh, for so long. Yeah. Does he grow the Charles Bronson or Attia the Little Mustache? It's just... Oh, that's disappointing. It's standard. Don't you reckon that dude from Narcos looks like Charles Bronson yes

oh yeah the guy from Game of Thrones as well yeah the Viper whatever his name is yeah absolutely the actor whose name

we cannot remember Pedro Pascal famous that guy Pedro Pascal sure yeah that sounds about right last time we brought him up

I had to look him up but I'm not going to do it this time I'm going to back myself might not be his name yeah Game of Thrones though yeah 1.4 But I'm not going to do it this time. I'm going to back myself. It might not be his name. Yeah. Game of Thrones, though. Yeah. 1.4... 1.5, sorry. Got to get it right.

Terabytes of data have been stolen from HBO, including, like, future scripts and whatnot. And in a separate leak, Star India leaked tomorrow's... today's episode. So when you're hearing this... What's Star India? I don't know. I guess, like, they're Netflix, the way we have Stan, I guess. star india i don't know i guess like they're netflix the way we have stan i guess i sure i don't know yeah you're a game of thrones guy yes

yeah i mean i'm a game of thrones guy but it is a show that i don't know what's going on ever but also i don't like it two things i mean i have come in like i i like the first few seasons i i said the last couple of seasons i must admit I drift in and out there's just some storylines I do not give a shit about yeah like Captain Friend Zone and being in love with

Queen whatever the dragon lady and that's what I mean you're a big fan we do not know what the character's called I know there's the short guy is he

what's his name you know Dinklage yeah the station agent we know him but I mean we even watched the recap because we were away for a couple of weeks.

So we had three in the bank. And so we watched the recap of season six before we watched this. And even then I'm like, I still don't know what's going on. I don't know who these people are. The geography doesn't make sense to me. The map is, I still find confusing. The clockwork map. But I do enjoy it.

I do enjoy the production. It's impressive to see what TV has become. It's like 10 million an episode or something. It's insane. The first episode, I remember just being like, what is going on? Like, what has happened? How has TV got this good? Yeah.

It's a real jump. And a lot of shows have started to catch up. What is spending per episode, do you know? No, it's 10 million an episode. It was 10 million for the first season. And now it's 10 million an episode. And 10 million for the first season and now it's 10 million an episode and it shows because it used to be like oh we'll do a big explosion in episode nine so everything else has to be in corridors and whatever um i'd love to know too like you're

talking about cgi yeah i'd love to see behind the scenes like how many of those sets like how much of that is practical and how much a lot of it is practical really they shoot all over the world they've got like six like sets happen at what locations what's the word you're an actor what do you mean i don't know places where they're happening yeah locations even in the non-acting world they're called locations if you go somewhere it's still a location that's true that's true it's not a film specific that's a good point yeah no it's insane and they're talking about they're going to do a prequel series when it's done with different people or whatever. So anyway, you're saying that how many terabytes of?

1.5. And is that out there on the internet? Can we just get it? Yeah, you can look them up and you can get, I haven't downloaded the episode because apparently it's not great quality. So I'm happy to watch it. And you've got to wait less than 24 hours. Yeah.

I think it's been out since Friday. So what day is it now? I don't know. Yeah. So the future scripts and things is interesting. Like, are we Russia? Are we looking at you, Russia? Could be Russia.

What have you been doing lately? They're going to bring down Western democracy by releasing Game of Thrones scripts early. It's one of those edgy hacker groups, who I love, if you're listening. Please don't shut down my site. Where they're like, we're the new generation and this is anarchy and my god so not you can't see but uh james just did a really scary kind of like uh i did the vendetta kind of like i did the

campfire torch yeah he looked mad yeah but i look i don't i don't really like just don't do this i guess just don't yeah but also like if you're the new generation and you want to make, like, significant change in the world, 1.5 terabytes of data from the Game of Thrones production office is pretty small for us. Is it, though? Yeah. You know what I mean? I don't understand why all these guys,

because I know Disney does it with Marvel and Star Wars, just use closed networks. What's the acting word for that? No. You know what I mean? Intranet. Intranet. Yeah, exactly.

But, hey, you'd think they would do you guys like Transformers I no yeah it depends where the rest of the sentence is going

there's a new animated Transformers film like there was in the 80s as long as it's got you got the touch yeah exactly

you're on board okay but it's set in the new continuity of the Michael Bay averse I don't know I checked out of those films Will and I we had a in the new continuity of the michael bay of earth i don't know i checked out those films will and i we had a long discussion about one of the top one of the transformers

i think it was the second one yeah the first one i was like it's fine yeah but the second one when there's transformer heaven you know like someone dies and goes to robot heaven yeah they're standing on clouds and like why do they need clouds in robot heaven like they don't rely on h2O at all. Like it really confused me. And then you find out that they, because I think it was during the writer's strike or something, and they literally just started shooting and were like,

doesn't matter, just shoot something, we'll comp it in. Shoot some clouds. We'll put a line in there with some fake blood, it'll look amazing. Some franchises have recovered, but some franchises have never recovered from the writer's strike in 2008 or whatever. Bond bounced back. Yeah, right right it would have been awesome i i have you read that um george miller's justice league script i have we've got a video on it where we talk about i mean goofy right like the opening scene all the superheroes in costume at a funeral like i just love the idea of seeing

like all those guys sitting in puse yeah costume it's like there's a scene in batman forever which always makes me laugh where it's just, they're showing a bit of neutral footage and it's Harvey Dent becoming Two-Face where Tommy Lee Jones gets acid and then they cut to the crowd and Batman is leaping from the chairs

in full Batman. Yes! Which suggests up until that point he'd been sitting there quietly watching the trial unfold before leaping from his seat to try and stop it. That's right, I forgot it. That's right.

I forgot that. That's very 1960s Batman. We'll hold like a press conference or something. Yeah. That's amazing. Yeah. Anyway, new Transformers films. Fine.

Animated. Yeah. Michael Bay's out. I mean, I assume it's going to be like 3D animation. I guess so, yeah. Because Beast Wars was. Yeah, that was one of the early 3D. It's no good. People love it. It's no good. Probably. I guess so, yeah. Because Beast Wars was... Yeah, that was one of the only 3D. It's no good.

People love it. It's no good. Probably. I don't remember. TV news, sort of. The Dark Tower came out. Not here. Apparently it's fine or really bad, depending on who you talk to.

I think really bad seems to be the predominant narrative. 93 minutes, which is... That's always a bad sign, yeah. But they're still going to move forward with it. Mason, you'll love this because you're a fan of the Dark Tower TV series with showrunner Glenn Mazzara, who I will now look up while you say a thing about that. Oh, he did Walking Dead because I'm Walking Dead for a bit.

Well, I'm not a fan of any of those things, but thank you for throwing me under the bus there. That's good. Yeah, well, something that didn't occur to me until recently, is that the reason they cut a film down to 93 minutes or 87 minutes is because it's so bad. They're just like, okay, but if we do 10 showings a day, like if we can make it so short we can do 10 showings a day,

we can recoup some of our investment before people realize that it's terrible. Yeah. And it was only like a $60 million budget, which sounds crazy, but yeah, but apparently just no. Are you a fan? I've tried to read The Dark Tower a couple of times

and I'm just, I can't get into it. Like it's just, I like Stephen King, but I just, I don't know. The world didn't speak to me. I was getting confused.

I didn't understand what's, why are there zombies and cowboys and I don't know what the fuck's going on. And towers. Which is a shame because Idris Elba and Matthew McConaughey, I thought I thought I would watch

them do anything on screen together and apparently they're like not the problem the trailer is awful though yeah it's not like it's one of those films

there's a kid in it talk about the most generic looking it's almost underworld style action isn't it though yeah I mean everyone's like oh how great is that

where he reloads his gun in midair I'm like no it's not it looks shit it's dumb don't do it look would I watch a free effects reel on youtube of somebody reloading their gun a whole bunch of different ways of course i would but i wouldn't pay for it yeah exactly jesus but anyway

i would be surprised if this goes forward like because the idea was ron howe was going to do it a few people have been on it and then they're going to do a spin-off tv series it's going to be this whole dark universe been talking about for like about it for like 10 years, but I think this is it. I think they've killed this forever for at least another two decades. They'll reboot it in two years time. Yeah. What have we got? Last bit of news.

This ties into our topic. Very exciting. William Zabka and Ralph Matsko will return in a Karate Kid sequel TV series on YouTube Red. That's brilliant. I know, right? That's great. Really great idea. That's one you can get behind.

Yeah. Because I'm not a fan of this kind of fan service reboot thing, Force Awakens. Hey, this scene, remember this character? Shut up. just tell a story like i don't need this constant kind of references take those old guys like i am refusing to watch the new twin peaks and everyone's like shouting me down because i love the first twin peak series the second one's garbage yeah and then i watched a trailer for this new one or a 30 minute preview and it's all the old characters back yeah right why don't you just bring in the new generation so yeah dal cooper's mentoring some new fbi agent who's dealing with strange

goings that to me is interesting but i don't know man like this i can get behind yeah absolutely i do like it when they when they bring like i think harrison ford worked well and i'm glad he's kind of out of force awakens spoiler alert because now they can tell those new stories. It's been two years. I'm sorry, what? Yeah, but this, I really like the idea of this. Do they have any, what? I got a synopsis.

Yeah, let's do it. Okay. Following a down on his luck Johnny after getting kicked in the face, never recovered 30 years ago. And then he's, and then in the car park in the sequel.

In two, yeah. Yeah, like his coach was yelling at him and stuff before he punched out a couple of windows. That's right, exactly. That was filmed during the first one and they just plugged it into the second one yeah uh he reopens the cobra kai dojo so they're focused on johnny no no not just reigniting his karate uh fueled feud with the now successful daniel machio who was struggling to maintain

balance in his life without miyagiagi who we know is dead in real life Pat Morita's dead so uh but not in the show we're bringing him back with CGI CGI CGI dog

that's right exactly teleporting dog yeah no I'm well into this like 10 years ago I'd be like why but now I'm like there's a great music video

I don't know who the band is but the song's called Alien Air Farm Smooth Criminals no there's a song called Sweep the Leg, which is, it's all the Cobra Kai now. Like it's a shot about five years ago.

But the premise being that Johnny is living in a trailer park. His life fell apart after that contest. And that him and the other Cobra, like, and he just is dreaming about like, you know, his redemption. It's, I think it was directed by William Zabka as well. Right, okay. It's actually really funny. I would love it if it is in the style of that.

Or what I would love is that he comes back to, you know, be this karate guy. But we live in the world of UFC now. Yeah, right, exactly. You put one of those karate guys up against a UFC guy, you'll get killed. He goes for the crane and then he just gets grabbed by the leg and twisted into a pretzel, yeah.

I like the idea that William Zabka's like, maybe he just goes around to every band and he's like hey you know you guys want to make a music video what if it's me and i'm rebuilding my life you know yeah he plays a bit of a role as himself in how i met your mother as well because he's uh barney's favorite hero from the 80s yeah yeah he's got a great cameo in um hot tub time he does yeah i watched that the other day because he must he's the biggest douche of that era yes like him and um uh walter peck from ghostbusters yeah right yeah like they just were the two douchey guys

in cinema in from like 1983 to 1987 he would have got so much shit in the street yeah well william zubkin maybe because he was young and good looking, but definitely like Dickless. Dickless, William Atherton probably would have come. If he's alive, he still gets that. Of course. Hashtag Dickless. Yeah, but look, maybe they'll bring back Hilary Swank because that's in that universe.

Oh, that's fantastic. I'd love that. I'd be surprised. But I didn't like the reboot, the Jaden Smith one. Didn't say it. It's nonsensical. It's learning Kung Fu. That's right, yeah.

But Jackie Chan actually is really good in that movie, and he beats up a group of kids. Did you guys talk about this on your show, the Jackie Chan Taken film? Oh, the new one that's coming out? It's a new one. It's sad Jackie Chan. Sad Jackie Chan going around killing people. That's what you've got to do when you've matured to a certain age.

Van Damme did it. Yeah, right. That's true. Yeah, yeah. I definitely watch that. Do you guys get those Ultra Tune ads down here with Van Damme? I don't watch a lot of TV, but I have seen, they come up on stuff every now and then. You've got to watch them.

They're bizarre. That guy's face is just 90% cocaine. The whole ad is so strange. There's this really strange thread of like sexual assault at the start of it with these girls walking to their car and then that's every ultra tune ad i think yeah and then they and then they want to take photos but the weirdest part is at the very end he does this like address to camera like you know ultra tune always there for you or something and he does this like stopping rapes he does it yeah he does this lame ass like

high kick but the voiceover was obviously done much later and i think he was coming down off one of his benders because he's like ultra tune will be there when you need it which does not match the high kicking smiling guy on screen like every time will and i see it we're just like what the fuck is going on here man that guy would do anything yeah well he kind of he had a research and then he just went well he had jcbd yeah and then we they tricked us into thinking we liked him yeah exactly right i've never seen it i watched that that monologue what's the acting what no yeah but that he does which is amazing where he's like why have i done everything i hate myself anyway there's a story about him and a quarter main yes yeah yeah i wasn to name him, but... Fuck it, I don't know him.

You might know him. No, I don't. Yeah. Apparently, years ago, when JCVD was in Australia, he cracked onto Steve Quartermain's wife. That's right. And Steve Quartermain was like, mate, I'll destroy you.

Because he's a... Quartermain's like enormous, isn't he? Yeah. And JCVD's like four foot two. Yeah, right. And he was a ballet dancer. Exactly. I was going to say, yeah.

I mean, he could definitely beat me up, but not Quartermain. So what kind of could definitely beat me up, but not quarter made. So what kind of, like YouTube Red, what kind of production values are we talking? What's come out from YouTube Red? Well,

it's a lot of like, the YouTube stars are stuck in a video game and they've got to... Don't you think that YouTube Red was a poorly calculated business name? Oh, right.

Yes. Anything you were going to say after poorly. Yeah, exactly. I mean, every time you say it, I'm like, I have to think about what are we talking about.

No, that's right. No, look, the only reason I would get it is because it's ad-free. And you can also stream music with your phone locked. But also I have Spotify now. I tried YouTube Red for a while. Yeah. And then I was like, this is annoying. You didn't like any of the YouTube exclusive YouTube stars

getting trapped in the internet? Battling an alien virus or something? No. No? Not a fan? Not a fan. I cheekily checked out one day before the end of my one month free trial. Very nice. Maximize that stuff I didn't use.

As a YouTuber, I do not support that. Fuck it. Fuck it all. All right. Well, this leads us into our topic for this week. You're in Wolf Creek Season 2. Yes. But we thought, what a perfect opportunity to talk about that,

but not only, and this is on your suggestion, movies that became TV shows, whether that was good or not good, depending on the list I've got. That's your exact words, yes? Yes, yes, yes. I think so.

I did send you a long, rambling tweet. It was like, there's a bunch of things we could do, but yeah, I mean, because I'm sort of,

I'm halfway through Fargo, season tour Fargo at the moment, which I'm loving. Yeah. tweet was like there's a bunch of things we could do but yeah i mean i because i'm sort of all i'm halfway through fargo season tour fargo at the moment which i'm loving yeah um and it's actually making me think i like it more than i like the movie yeah that's fair well there's more space to breathe and there's more space to develop quirky characters that's it i when they when they announced that i was like what why would you? What a strange kind of inspiration for a series. It's not like the original creators aren't. I think they're loosely attached, but it's all new creative team as far as I know. But I think it's one of the best shows on TV.

Are you up to date on it, Mason? No, I'm not. I've got to say your name because when there's three people, you've got to say the person's name because otherwise it's theater of the mind. It's we in the room. We know. We know. Exactly, yeah.

Not everybody knows. That's it. We're going. What were you saying? What was I saying? Season three. You said I'm up to date. I said no.

And then I said... And then it's back on you. Oh, no. That's right. But yeah, no, it's great. It's fantastic. I think it's... TV, you'd probably agree with this,

it's a golden era of TV. A hundred percent. Yeah. It makes so much sense. Like my wife and I have a film that is with Screen Australia at the moment in development. I want to ask you about that, yeah.

Now's your chance, James. Oh, shit. It's an environmental disaster. News goes south and it's about a girl trying to find... How do you know all this? I saw an interview where you were talking to Guy Smiley, Larry Emner. Oh, Larry Emner. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right.

Guy Smiley. He looks like Guy Smiley. He does look like Guy Smiley. Yeah, but that has been like a seven year... Larry Emner oh Larry Emner yeah yeah that's right guy smiling he looks like guy smiling he does look like guy smiling yeah but that has been like a seven year I remember when we started because my wife and I

had a production company for about five years she went to VCA got a masters in directing and when she came out of film school she couldn't really find a producer she liked

and she's like why didn't you produce for me and I'm like oh fuck I can do it I guess I've been on set enough I think I know what I'm doing turns out I had no idea what a producer does Claire's a producer you can it doesn't matter you

can well any that is true anyone can be a producer but be useless as claire is what i'm saying sorry god uh but so we and we did like a we just did like a zillion music videos and short films and commercials and stuff and then when we were like we do this all the time why don't we just do something that we really like and make a film and how hard can it be turns out really fucking hard yeah so is that from a funding perspective from everything everything i mean with every artistic you guys might be familiar with this uh with every creative pursuit in australia you always run into the problem of where is the audience in australia yes because there just isn't the people to sustain like you cannot sell an idea to anyone based on return you're going to get from Australian audiences.

Yeah, exactly. Because they're just like Australian film is in a real tricky situation at the moment because we just cannot get people in the cinema. Unless you're the guy who did Saw, you know. Yeah. Or Stan is like good for, I mean, they seem to be doing now is just turning everything into a TV show. Wake and Cry, it's a TV show.

Wolf Craig's TV show. Picnic at Hanging Rock's going to be a TV show. Oh, really? Okay, hanging rocks gonna be a tv show yeah so i think there is a way still can't find the girls guys where's the still can't find them i don't know i've wrote this area off uh but it just takes a long time and also you know it's the most unstable it changes trends change like you might have the greatest idea for a vampire film and then by the time you actually get that into pre-production six vampire films have come out and you've missed the boat for that yeah like and to be honest like our script has changed quite a bit riding the waves of not just trends but me as a writer yeah seven years and my interest like you know when i first wrote

it i i was interested in you know different kind films. It was a very different kind of movie. And then as I sort of like gotten older and matured a bit, you know, the, I'd say the film has matured a little bit as well. And it's one of those things where on average, they say in Australia to make your first film is between seven and 10 years. I think Animal Kingdom took them 10 years to make. And there's not much to that film either. Not really. And if you, and apparently, cause I'm working with someone who worked on that and they said like even you know two drafts before the shooting draft was actually significantly different right so it's just one of those things where it requires so

much energy and concentration and because no one is going to no one's going to push this thing except for you the creative team behind it yes yeah so it just requires an awful lot of energy and it's just um it's just hard it's just hard to get this stuff mate what are we talking about yeah making stuff making stuff but i think that goes for anywhere i think you you have to drive it yourself well in america it's a bit different because it's more of an industry over there like that's the first thing you notice about la is all the the kind of stuff i do for a living and that a lot of my friends do for a living like i was embarrassed to tell people i was an actor for like 10 years because it just felt like not a real job what did they

think you did i don't know just like rodeo clown i'm just sardonic for a living uh but then you go over there and it's a big business and now more than ever in the era of content like what you realize is there's not a lot of people with good ideas out there there's a lot of ideas out there but it's it's very few people are capable of sitting down taking an idea putting the requisite amount of time and energy energy into it to turn it into something that is not only going to be profitable yeah well reviewed and you know and seen by lots of different people right um i think tv that's the that's the the TV now, though, is like you're saying, there's just more time to- Unpack it.

Craft the story. And, you know, I think Vince Gilligan was out in Australia last week doing a talk about how long it takes them to crack a script. And they all stay in the writer's room. And it's on average like six weeks, you know, for one episode. In Australia, you get two days. Yeah. Oh, wow. Really? Wow. Okay. There's a line loose and we've gone. Exactly. you know for one episode one episode wow that's right in australia you get two days yeah oh wow really wow okay you're saying because you you recently there's a line loose and we've gone

exactly well i set in on the writer's room at home and away i was gonna say yeah yeah when i started that job i was like well you know i'm interested in writing i want to see how this show is put together and i remember sitting in and you know they map out monday to friday there's five episodes a week and then they you've got a list of all the characters and there's like 20 characters on that show. And then you've got a list of all the locations. But there's restrictions on all those things. You can't shoot at the surf club every day of the week.

This act is only available for certain days. Yeah. So with those restrictions, you then have to come up with five half-hour episodes of drama on a show that's been on air for 30 years without repeating yourself. Like it is... I was staggered by how quickly they moved. And the fact that they get anything up on air and it's barely watchable

like is amazing sometimes it's good like it's staggering like i remember sort of sitting there and they were brainstorming about like okay so this character is going to go on a bucks weekend like what's you know what are some ideas for a bucks weekend and i was like well the characters all these like macho kind of tough guys what if the dude who books the bucks weekend actually books them this like you know they go to a health spa and it's like essential massage yeah it's kind of like plus play against that and like great oh excellent and i'm like well that's my first idea but bang no they moved on too bad we're filming it now turn around they're shooting behind you right um so is is uh is the home and away writers room is it like people, is it fresh faces or is it the

same people for the last 20 years? No, it's fresh faces. It's a hard job. Yeah, I can imagine. They run through script producers. I think the average stint is about three or four years. Right, yeah. And people might come back after a break, but they go insane.

Like literally they live and breathe that show Monday, oh no, seven days a week because they're writing constantly. It's off for the summer maybe and that's it. Is that right? Yeah, but even then you're plotting three months in advance. Yeah, that's crazy. And so what they'll do is the writer's room will be run by the producer with four writing staff in there. They'll bounce around ideas.

Then a bullet, it's called a a beat sheet will be sent out to a writer who has four weeks which is quite luxurious for us to write a draft and then i mean what i liked about working on a show like home and away is it was a little bit like doing co-op theater where everyone's working so hard you sort of have to cover each other a bit like the writers you know know that they're gonna have to give that to a director director gets to you know do a little something with it you give it to the cast the The director gets to do a little something with it. You give it to the cast. The cast gets to do a little something with it.

And what you're hoping is if everyone just gives it a little bit of a polish, you'll actually make it something good. Well, there are some good performances on that show as well. And there's some actors on it who have been doing it for 20-odd years. Yeah. Who are great. Ray Ma? Yeah, he's an amazing actor.

He genuinely is. He was in Breaker Morant. Yeah, that's right. Exactly. It was an amazing actor like he genuinely is he was in Break a Morant yeah that's right exactly which is an amazing film why did you decide I mean you could have you could have done that for another 5-10 years

I'd imagine yeah did you have something else lined up before you left no it just kind of felt like like when I got the job because it's so full on

I'd never been to drama school I'm not sure as you can tell but I've never had one acting lesson I did want to say something but when i got that job i was like okay i'm going to treat this like my university because i'm going to be doing so many contact hours and they have full-time drama coaches there and so i just booked in with the the drama coach once a week and you know just tried just worked as hard as i could um but then by the end of that like the way that show is designed every

contract initially long term is about three years and in that three years you'll play everything you'll do comedy romantic comedy high stakes drama screwball comedy like you're saying someone from a fire exactly you do every genre and then after that if you want to start on the show that's completely cool they like having established experienced actors but you take a step back and then they bring in the next lot of kids or whoever it is and you sort of become – You're the guy at the kiosk who – Yeah, you become the support network. You'll get your time, the sunshine from time to time.

But it's really about turnover. I mean, that's what's the beauty of that show is it's about unearthing new talent or maybe making people more familiar with established actors who you might not know. Well, a lot of famous Australian actors have come out actors have come out well something happened with home and away about 10 years ago where they just decided to just spend a bit more money on it right make it look a bit better upgrade the cameras just update everything and that is the era that bore you know ryan quanton chris hemsworth you know all these actors now who are going on to have really good careers

and i think that it's it's because the show was like, okay, well, we're going to not turn it into a star factory, but it's going to be nice eye candy. Yeah, it legitimizes the whole thing. I feel it's the same. I mean, it's no different to like a CW show. Sure, yeah. But it's also, it does play everywhere. Like it's huge in the UK.

Ireland specifically. That was the thing that used to blow my mind is that when you shoot in Palm Beach, you get these busloads of Irish, specifically Irish tourists. And like I've gone back, my wife's Scottish. I've gone back to Scotland with her. And that always blows the, she's from a village of 6,000 people. It's a bit like I heard you talking about the World's End a couple of weeks ago. That's what the video is like that.

And so you see people just like, I'm walking down the street and like, is that the principal from Summer Bay High? Like what is he doing in Scotland? But it's relatively like they like it there and they're aware of it. But Ireland, they're fanatical about it. It's strange. It just really struck a chord with them. Cool.

So I'd imagine that's where a lot of the budget comes from as well. They can sell it to international markets. Channel four or five. Right. Yeah. One of the budget comes from as well. They can sell it to international markets. Channel 4 or 5. Right, yeah. One of the channels. Did you get an explosive send-off? No, no. I got a bittersweet send-off.

I cheated on my wife. We fought for a while. And then it was one of the things where she thought I'd left for the airport. And so she's staring off into the water and I appear behind her and tell her. You came out of the water. Just push her in and run off. I never loved you. But you can come back though.

You've talked about it. Well, the funny thing was like Ada Nicodemus, who played my wife, all of her previous husbands are dead. Previous husbands. All the time I was on the show, the crew were like, ah, your contract's coming to an end. Black Widow's got you now. And so I would say to the producers, look, when I go,

I'm happy to go, just don't kill me. Come on. Let's do something different with it. Yeah, absolutely. And I would go back. Like I loved working on that show. They're a great bunch of people and it was so much fun. But I just felt like it was,

I felt like I'd done everything I was going to do and it was time to sort of try something else. That's fair enough, yeah. And so now I'm being hunted by a micktail. That's great. Finally, the death I've always wanted. I married this broad so I could be murdered. Nothing happened.

Would you want to go through some movies that have been turned into TV shows, in the spirit of Wolf Creek and also other shows? I've got a list here, but if anyone wants to chime in at any point, feel free to put your hand up. Have you got like any interesting ones that's like it was a bad movie

but a great TV show? I would say people think that of Buffy. Yep. Absolutely. You guys are fans of Buffy? Yeah, I love him. I've never really seen it.

Really? No. See, I'm not very good at watching entire series of shows but Buffy and Angel, funnily enough, are two series I've seen every

episode. Yeah. Have you seen the original movie as well? Yes. It's more of a first draft. I feel you can go... It's a concept, the first movie. Yeah, yeah.

The first season of Buffy, the TV series, you go, oh, obviously this is what they wanted, but they didn't have the money and they didn't have the push to go, I want it like this kind of thing. It's completely recast, isn't it? Yeah. It's also, I've got that odd thing of Luke Perry It's completely recast, isn't it? Yeah. It's also got that odd thing of like Luke Perry again as a high school student

when he's clearly 35 years old. Yeah, hang on. Because that was after Malrose. Malrose? No, no, no. It would be a couple of years after Beverly Hills.

But he's got this little soul patch and it's like, it just makes him look older. Yeah, right. What are you doing in high school, you creep? Yeah, so, yeah. He's really pushing it.

And also Pee Wee Herman as a... What? Yeah. As a sort of a school, you creep? Yeah. He's really pushing it. And also Pee Wee Herman as a- What? Yeah. As a sort of a- Armless vampire? Yeah. He loses an arm. Am I imagining that?

Yeah, I think so. This is the movie. This is the movie, correct. Donald Sutherland was her watcher. That's correct. Yeah. Really? So the Giles, Niles, Miles.

Yes, Giles. Giles, yeah. I was drowning there. Yeah. Okay. So would you say it's still worth checking out though? No. No. Yeah, exactly. Yes. Giles. Giles, yeah. I was drowning there. Okay, so would you say it's still worth checking out? No. No, yeah, exactly, no. So it's very much of its time.

I would even suggest that Buffy, the first series, would probably be a bit dusty to watch these days. Right, yeah. A bit crappy. Okay, but you say progressively it gets better? There's good season, like Buffy season two, Buffy season six. Season six of Buffy is, I will argue this, that is one of the

most outstanding seasons of television of any show ever that is so well written and the climax of that season is so great if you only need to watch one

if you're going to watch one series watch season 6 because you don't really need to know a lot of the backstory it's really great is that the one

where she comes back from the dead spoiler alert where Willow becomes Dark Willow and goes on this fucking rampage and kills her you see a man get

flayed. That's right. Yeah. Okay. And that was, so season six was the last season. Second last. Second last. Yeah.

Is the last season not great? I've heard that. Yeah, it's sort of, it's, what stands out to me about that one is it was quite samey. Every episode is like, it's Buffy and a team of potential slayers and they're on the run and every episode she's like, let's go and do this. And of potential slayers and they're on the run and every episode she's like let's go and do this and everybody's like no you're wrong buffy and then she's proven right at the end and she's like i've told you and then repeat 22 more times yeah yeah it's a bit like uh x-men days of future past x-men apocalypse it's like we've kind of seen this

absolutely we've kind of seen this yeah more in humans. That's what you want. You're a fan of this, Mason. Not really. Tricked. We'll see. I haven't even said anything yet. Robocop. Oh, sure, yeah. Far out, yeah.

Based on the actual same, it's the same universe, isn't it? Well, there's an assortment of animated movies. Yes. Or animated series. Should we leave off animated stuff for this? Yeah. Because then we're doing Star Wars, we're doing everything. I had no reference, but yeah, I'll leave reference but yeah okay yeah but it's the same it's a different guy but it's

a guy from robocop 3 is that right or is it a different no it's a different it's a different robocop again and is it and i'm imagining it's watered down that's not vera hoven no it's not it's not brutal in any way it's very uh what i kind of remember the name it's it's like dark of engines or something like that, which makes it sound a lot more extreme and impressive than you'd think. But it's very. What year are we talking? Early 90s, was it?

No, it's later than that. Like 97. Something like that, yeah. Okay. I've never even seen Robocop 3. What happens in there? I remember the big, very fly. Robocop 3.

Ninja. OCP is taken over by a Japanese corporation, so he has to fight robot ninjas make sense yeah yeah yeah but that was the that one that one was PG and so they all the all the fun was taken out of it really like yeah and they gave him like you know he could take his arm off and put a gun on and he had a jet pack and said because they were like let's actually let's action figure this up so it's really but that I mean, Robocop's been on a downward spiral,

like it's still around. But Robocop's sort of... Once Peter Weller left, because he is the only guy who's, I think, managed to make that look not completely ridiculous. He nails the walk. I don't know what it is. Mime. Yeah.

Is that where he's from? Is he from the world of mime? Yeah, he worked with a mime, yeah. Oh, shit. Okay. He's got the perfect shot, so't know what it is. Mine. Yeah. Is that where he's from? Is he from the world of mine? Yeah, he worked with a mine, yeah. Oh, no shit. Okay. But that, yeah. He's got the perfect size head and a teeny little body. Apparently, have you seen the, there's a great behind the scenes on one of the DVDs for Robocop

where he just talks about how fucking miserable that job was. The first, I think the first day on set, they had completely miscalculated how long it was going to take into that costume. It took him like almost six hours to get into that costume and then he couldn't fucking walk yeah and he was like he had to give this performance it's amazing that i mean that that the whole idea of that film working so well and being so brilliant yeah when even the name of it is so ludicrous the dumbest thing and then the irony of when they try and sequelize it, they just feed into what made it dumb. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

I remember hearing that there's a bit where he catches the keys and they did that like a hundred times. Is that right? Yeah. Because he can't see anything. Or close that glove. Yeah, that's right. Yeah.

Yeah, but there was a series in the 90s, which was, again, more kind of youth. Like he was all non-lethal. Right. What's the point if he can't I don't know if you've ever seen this this is not shooting anyone in the dick

no there's a I was gonna I don't know if you've I've mentioned this a number of times on this show because I love it he mentions it every week

but I edit it out there's a there was a I guess like a project for a whole bunch of different visual effects people to remake Robocop, like scene by scene. And every production company got a different scene.

And if you go on, I think it's on YouTube. I think I've seen this. Is it the Dick Massacre? Yes, it is. A company called Fatal Farm also did Lasagna Cat, which is this viral Garfield parody thing. But it's just a Dick Massacre. It's really realistic looking dick.

Yeah, squib-load loaded prosthetic dicks exploding. But yeah, so there was this series in the nineties where he was all non-lethal and like, and cause like, you know, you can't, if it's a series, you can't kill all the bad guys every week cause they have to invent a new bad

guy. So it was all, it was all nets and tasers. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. You know what though?

It's kind of in the spirit of that. Well, we'll see. Yeah, we'll in the spirit of that well we'll see Terminator we'll be the judge of that sorry guys Sarah Connor Chronicles

Chronicles of Sarah Connor the hardest to pronounce fucking show on TV the Sarah Connor Chronicles Terminator for what's it called Sarah Connor Chronicles

is it it was called the Sarah Connor Chronicles and then because it didn't rate well because nobody knew who Sarah Connor was I think they called it Terminator Sarah Connor Chronicles I've seen the first season didn't rate well, because nobody knew who Sarah Connor was, I think they called it Terminator Sarah Connor Chronicles. I've seen the first season.

It's better than the sequels. I like the first season. Because they time travel at the end of the first one. Yeah, they do. To the modern era, yeah. They go from 97 to 2008 or whatever. Oh, and it was bloody... Lena Headey.

Yeah, it was, yeah. Yeah, exactly. I don't know their names. That's how she's known, yeah. That's how she signs things. But no, I think that's a solid show known yeah that's how she signs things but uh no I think that's a solid show and a lot of people

were disappointed when it was cancelled I think it was because they were doing more movies and who was that and medicine rates were low because I remember the first episode

of that TV show there's a really great sequence where John Connor's at a new school and they're doing roll call and the Terminator is the teacher yeah but he snuck a gun

in his thigh yeah right it's like why did he have to do that? Couldn't he just bring it in his teacher's bag? You're a teacher. I'm a teacher. No, we had so many guns. But I guess US schools probably have metal detectors.

But he's got metal inside his skin. That's a really good point. I don't know why. I mean, it looked cool when he sliced open his thigh and pulled out that gun. In the movie A Fish Called Wanda, there's a scene, every time I see that movie, which isn't often, but there's a scene every time I see that movie which isn't often but there's a scene where Kevin Kline

gets a gun through airport security but he just takes it out of his pocket and he flips it beside the metal detector as he's walking past and he catches it

on the other side and puts it back in his pocket I love that and you could never do that I'd try to do that with my keys and get tasered

absolutely yeah but look I wouldn't say it's brilliant but I think it's in the spirit of because it ignores well it's better than freaking genesis and i actually i was watching that today because it's on netflix yeah it's like i need something to watch while i edit something i don't need to watch i think i said this last week the first 15 minutes that movie like it shows the future war and when there's the there's the parallel start to terminator one

it's it's okay and then it just what if your app could connect to your smartphone? And then it was like, are you fucking serious? Will and I talked about this on Tofop. And as he really pointed out, the scary future that they're predicting is here already. Yeah, right, exactly. This thing that we should all be feeling, it's like, you're too late.

I'd rather fight a robot, quite frankly, you know. They're showing people on their phones, like everyone's on their phone. Yeah, they are. That's not an amazing commentary. What if at the end of that movie arnold schwarzenegger just sits down and goes nobody just talked to each other on the train anymore guys but i also like don't again this is this fan service thing if we you've got to have arnie to be a terminated film no you don't you don't like this is what i love about fury road mad max fury road is i'm the biggest mad max fan on the planet and when that film came out so many of my friends were mad max fans like oh this sucks

this is not mad max it's all weird and stuff but george miller took his own property and just completely revamped it it's not desaturated it's bright and technicolor mad max isn't a stoic cowboy he's a dude with ptsd like there's so much stuff in it where it's like this is great I want to see this with all of my favourite franchises and films like just bring in

new directors each time and put a new spin on it and stop dragging out these old actors who need a paycheck so for Blade Runner you're like don't

don't do it don't do it like I don't I mean good director though he's the guy who did Arrival yeah

well look but you're talking about bringing back the old ones I feel like I will be disappointed by the new Blade Runner

just I just think that just don't be burdened by having to do this fan service stuff because I feel like there's enough audience out there who don't know

about the original Blade Runner who like and it's not and are there really that many hardcore Blade Runner fans who are going to be

furious if Harrison Ford wasn't in this? Like people were saying that about Mad Max. No Mel, no Max. It's like, well, you're wrong because they made a great film. Yeah, exactly. I think the movie is better for not putting him in.

Although having seen, there's a film that Mel Gibson did called Bloodfather that came out last year and I'm like, oh, it would have been good to see. Not the one for Mad Max. You know what, you are right. A crusty old man, Max. Hey, speaking of time travel, I just thought of one. I just thought of one. I just thought of one. I did some research for the show because Bill-

Was that when you were looking at your phone just then? No, this is earlier. He's just ordering some waffles. Yeah, that's right. So after Bill and Ted's bogus journey, it was an animated series, which we won't talk about. We can't. Not allowed.

There was also a live action series. Did you know that? What? I watched several episodes of it earlier today. No. Yeah. What? Who's in it? So earlier today. No. Yeah. What? Who's in it?

So there was the animated series and that had the- You can't talk about that. No, I know. But the first season of it, that had Keanu Reeves and Bill Winters and George Carlin as the voices. Sorry? What's his name? Alex Winters.

Alex Winters. There we go. You're confusing the characters. Yeah. So it had those three in as the voice cast. And then for the second season it was just well it wasn't Randos

but it was two Randos as Bill and Ted and Rick Overton who's another stand-up comedian as Rufus and then they did a live action version

where they got those three the voice cast to do the live TV series they would have been that age-ish yeah I guess so yeah and you know what

they kind of pull it off really what era are we talking about this is 1992. I want to see this. It's all on YouTube if you want to in small increments. Yeah, yeah. And it's very, yeah, I think it was only like seven or eight episodes.

Bill and Ted seems like something that you could turn into a TV show. Yeah, right. Did you ever read the Bill and Ted comic book? Yes, I did. I loved it. It's good, isn't it? I thought it was so great. Yeah, and it was wild at the time, I think.

Yeah, it was. You've got to read the margins of every panel. You're like, isn't it? I thought it was so great. And it was wild at the time, I think. Yeah. You've got to read the margins of every panel. You're like, oh, what's going on here? There's some little illustrations back here. There's something else going on. But they had – so there's the guy who plays Ted who does a fine Alex Winter's impression. And there's a guy who like – he really commits to the Keanu Reeves kind of –

I'd like to see what this guy looks like. Check it out. They're not looks accurate. They're not lookalikes. But it's... I kind of enjoyed it. I'm fascinated by this. I would like to see it.

I'm just shocked. Did the budget, did they have like... It's a lot smaller scale. Yeah, right. Clearly, they re... Well, here we are in very old very odd england exactly right car drives past oh yeah they look enough like exactly right yeah so yeah my computer's unplugged like it's yeah oh that's possible i would i would i was half expecting to it be alex winters and a guy who's not kyado yeah exactly right yeah

they are doing another one but it's small scale and they kind of reuse a lot of the, like when, you know, they always time travel back to like, they work at like a hardware store

and so they always time travel back to that same spot so they can reuse the same landing effect every single time. But it's, I kind of enjoy,

I think I'm going to watch the rest of them. Yeah, I think I'm going to check that out too. I mean, it's not good, just to be clear. It's not a good show. Are we already doing watch the rest of them. Yeah, I think I'm going to check that out too. I mean, it's not good, just to be clear. It's not a good show. Are we already doing what we're reading already?

Yes, that's right. YouTube videos. That's it. Do you guys, what have we got? Training Day. You guys watch Training Day? No. No, with the late Bill Paxton.

Apparently it follows on from the show, the movie, the movie show. Oh my goodness. Hang on. I have no thoughts on it. But Bill Paxton plays the Denzel. Oh, does he? Yes, he does. I've been misinformed.

Unless, I mean, if it follows on from the film and suddenly he's a different race. Yeah, right. That would be... That's brave. I call that brave casting. No, but I think... Whitewashing Hollywood.

When you first scout your Hanson, then... That's right. But I think... Apparently, it's good and apparently it's done now. Like they're not going to do it anymore. Well, yeah. Anyway, brought that down. Westworld.

You guys watch Westworld? Tremendous. I love it. Yeah. Do you? I thought you didn't. No, I love it. Oh, I thought you were one of those who didn't.

No. You son of a bitch, Mason. That's right. I like it a lot. Everyone here likes it. Wait, do you like it? I like it. We all like it, guys.

So you weren't thinking of yourself when you were listening. No, no. Because I listened to your show and I'm sure there was someone on who was not a fan. Oh, it was Ben. Ben, Ben Finnell. Yeah. Yeah, he didn't like it.

Is that him? Is that right? He can go to hell. Yeah, fuck him. Oh, speaking of people you've had on the show, just to digress a little, we've got to talk about Sam Loy. Okay, go ahead. Oh, yeah.

That's right. You mentioned this. Yeah. Is this on your running sheet? Sorry, have I jumped ahead? No, no, I did. I wrote it down for later but this is this is all fine because i i looked up your uh your wikipedia just earlier and it said uh uh what's the name of the film sorry uh on the beach on the beach yeah

uh my friend i believe my friend pete sharky is also in that i don't know pete but uh i think everybody everybody in australia except us was in the film they employed a lot of melbourne yeah because it's a fairly big production but yes so Sam I heard him on your show and I'm like I fucking know that voice I know that name great podcast by the way Human Ordinary

everyone check it out it's awesome and so I my first ever acting job was I had a tiny little role in On The Beach and the plot of On The Beach is it's sort of

the world is facing nuclear annihilation this navy this submarine American submarine has sailed to australia as the radiation is slowly descending over the world so they've got like in a few weeks to sort of like work out what the fuck they're going to do they're going to stay in australia or they're going to go back into you know the radiation so the original film stars gregory peck as the you

know the commander of this submarine and you know he plays him with his nobility. Like he's Gregory Peck in the TV version. They cast Amanda Sante. Marlowe Kings, Amanda Sante. Judge Dredd's Amanda Sante. What year was this? I want to say like 99 or 2000 or something like that. Just post-Judge Dredd. Yeah, it's probably about four years post-Dredd.

He's riding high off being Judge Rico, Judge Dredd. Stallone's exact clone, I guess. And so Sam and I were playing two sailors who have gone AWOL. So there's only one scene. And the scene was that Amandasante walks into the boat with his, you know, second in command. And they say, sir, we've got the two soldiers who went AWOL. Would you like to speak to them?

And the way it was scripted was a very Gregory Peck-esque speech where he's like, know gentlemen we are facing you know the end of times and we must rely on each other and those of you who do not want to be here then make that choice but you shall not indent you know and blah blah blah yeah it was really good yeah that's a good acting thank you like for real yeah and so i meet sam and uh you know we sort of we've got a few lines within that speech and so we sort of just go through that and you know i've never been on set before. It's all pretty exciting for me. I get taken out to the submarine that they're shooting on.

It's like a set out in Williamstown. All right. Real set. Real set. No, like it's just a shell. Okay. Sort of just the top of it. And Russell Mulcahy was the director.

Highlander and Razorbacks, Russell Mulcahy was the director. Wasn't doing a lot of directing as I remember. He was at the catering table eating and just, I think he sort of waved his hand dismissively and was like, yeah, you guys just run the scene. I'll be over in a sec. Killing it. And so we were up there waiting for Amand to arrive.

And Amand arrives and he's got this big bus. His personal assistant drives and he gets off and he sort of like struts onto the set uh starts on the set and you know he says hello and stuff and we get ready to run the scene they call action and he starts just going off script like just doing like ad-libbing but like the way it was written was this noble kind of speech about camaraderie and you know making choices for the for everyone and not for yourself but he starts doing like he's doing the speech from any given sunday like al pacino yeah right speech where he starts sort of pacing back and forth and rubbing the back of his head and it went i mean i'll do my best amanda santa it was along the lines of um he's like

you know uh when you're on the boat like this you've got to rely on another guy you can't turn your back on a guy because if you turn your back on a guy i'm gonna kick your ass and i don't want to know this book was gonna be on this boat so i this boat. And he grabs Sam in a fucking headlock, like without like... Sam's big as well, yeah. Puts Sam in a headlock and drags him down the galleyway and like kicks him off

and then grabs me and throws me off after him. And they call cut and we're like, what the fuck just happened? Did you say your line? I didn't even get my fucking line out. And Russell Mulcahy's come over

and he's like, okay, you guys rehearsed, can we shoot? And we're like, well, yeah, let's go. And so they put us up there again i remember like by the third time they like amanda santa put sam in a headlock and thrown him off the boat he was like i'm gonna fucking punch this guy in the nose if he puts me in a headlock again but the best bit about it was as he was kicking us down the gangway or whatever it's called he was continuing to ad

lib and he had this one line that stuck in my head where he's like get off this boat before I fucking pile drag you off this boat I don't want anyone on this boat

who doesn't want to be on this boat if I ever see you again son I will tear you an asshole the size of that which you did not know you were I remember

I remember just like walking away what does that even mean that line made it into the final cut. Did you think he did it on the fly? Yes, it was not in the script. But it has taken me almost like two decades to decode what that line meant.

I mean, do you think he wrote it before and he went on the bus? No, it felt to me like he was just in the moment. He was going for it. But I will tell you an asshole the size of that which you did not know you were. Can you understand what that means? So I take that as like the size that you are or slightly bigger? We're going to have to diagram this, guys. You are an asshole.

You don't know you are. But I'm going to rip you one the size of the asshole that you are. That you are. And they left that in. They left it in. Amazing. Yeah, you can find on the beach. It's all good retailers.

Afterwards, was he like, great job, everyone? Oh, he was lovely. After that, he took us on his little bus and his personal assistant drove us to lunch and he told us some stories about Mumbo Kings. Nice. Yeah. So that was all pleasant. Sam didn't punch you.

That was my Sam voice story. I'm very glad to hear he's doing so well now. Yeah, he's killing it, man. I wonder if he remembers that. Next time you have him on, ask him. What if he's like, do you remember the headlock thing? He's like, what?

I imagine the whole thing. He's got a, he's got a, I don't know if I can say this. He's got a gig lined up on ABC radio. Fantastic. He's got his podcast really taken off in the US as well. It's like,

yeah, no, he's killing it. What am I doing? Nothing. You're doing this podcast. Wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. Hey,

speaking of Russell Mulcahy, I'm ready. Who loves Highlander the series? Yes, I did. Yeah, see? I did. See, James? I've never seen it. I've never seen it.

The Highlander TV series actually kind of was popular enough that they bled it into the cinematic universe. Yeah, they did, yeah. It's better than the sequels, right? And there was a spinoff which did not do well. What? Highlander the Raven. What was that?

Duncan MacLeod, who is the MacLeod who isn't- Not Connor. Not Connor MacLeod, but close enough. Connor's the Frenchman. Yes, exactly. The confusing Frenchman. Close enough and uses the same sword and et cetera. But he had a love interest who was a diamond thief called the Raven,

and she got her own spinoff, which went for like three years. I'm a bit older than you guys but Highlander was it was perfect study TV it was like late on a Thursday night

so I'd be up doing homework or cramming or something like that and then I'd watch Highlander that'd be my one hour break

but I used to really dig it I actually thought it had good mythology and there was one episode where the lead singer of The Fine Young Cannibals

guest starred as another immortal there's also one of the is is an immortal which one the curly head one don't look at me yeah what's his name come on you're an extra i hate and i've never seen yeah i'm not helping i'll think of it in a minute dalton adultery roger adultery yeah so why they're more immortals i mean they do it in the movies anyway. Yeah, it's Highlander 1. Now, Highlander the series is set after the events of the first Highlander, but the gathering didn't finish them off.

So it turns out there were just more and more. What he thought was the gathering. What a rip-off. Imagine if you were Connor McCloud. You finally defeated the Kurgan. You've flown up into the sky, hit by lightning bolts. And then you come down and someone's like, actually, there's quite a few more.

Yeah, it was all a dream, guys. This gathering was a two-mile radius. It was just all the New York assholes. And now they're dead. Thank you for your service. We'll continue on. But yeah, it was- Would you say watch the first movie, then go to the show everything in between watch the first movie watch the series we don't

have to do any of those things watch the first movie watch the series and then watch highlander four which is end game yeah which is the mario van peoples one no that's three all right but four is the one that has both highlanders in it how can that be how can they exist in the same aren't they from different time oh no they're in the same timeline they exist in the same? Aren't they from different time? Oh, no, they're in the same timeline. They're in the same timeline. What am I saying? How can that be? Wait a minute. I'm talking about the franchise.

We're in the second film. They've decided they're aliens coming to the planet. Christopher Lambert is in the first episode of Highlander, the series, and there's sort of a handover. And he's like, good on you, mate. You're going to be great. I hope your franchise isn't as popular as mine. Bad luck.

That's right. But Highlander 4 has both of them and it has the same fight choreographer as the series which was a lot better is that the one

where a guy gets cut down the middle and then that's only in the trailer yeah boo that's a special effect shot that was only in the trailer

why would you take that out why would you take that out crazy and then skip Highlander 5 which is real bad

wait for the reboot that they're doing with Ryan Reynolds. Really? I think it's done. Why don't they just hire an actual Scott this time? It's not in the spirit of Highlander. Yeah, you're right.

It's not in the spirit of it, is it? Yeah, you're right. Yeah, we're going to have a Scotsman playing an Egyptian or a Spaniard. We're going to have a French guy playing a Scott. Yeah. Whatever Krogan is. Krogan, what's his name? He's Clancy Brown, the great voice actor.

What race is he? Romanian, I'm going to say. Yeah, okay, yeah. He seems creepily Eastern European. Too big. The biggest Eastern European there is. But the series was really good. It was filmed mostly in France, I think,

and so it looks great. Who's the name of the lead guy? Alexandra Paul? Adrian Paul, yeah. Adrian Paul. Yeah, he's got good ponytail. Gives good ponytail. Cuts it off in the last season. No! It's? Adrian Paul, yeah. Adrian Paul. Yeah, he's got good ponytail. Gives good ponytail. Cuts it off in the last season.

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It's quite good, but I think the show builds on it. That's probably an example where the show is as good as, or much more well remembered than the movie yeah for anyone yeah i mean when was the movie like early 70s i think might have been before in fact i remember being a kid who was before the war i think you're right being a kid who's on the tv show and then watching the movie i didn't like it it was like why do i look weird who is this yeah i mean there's more nudity, but other than that, yeah. Anyway, I talk about MASH too much, so let's just breeze over that. Taken is a TV series at the moment. Really?

Anyone seen that? No. It's a prequel, but it's set in the modern day. Terrific. With who? Who's the dad? Don't know. I mean, and like, is his daughter continuously getting killed?

I guess so. Maybe it's his daughter. Dad. Every pre-title sequence is just, Dad, you won't believe it. I was on spring break, but I'm getting kidnapped again. They have to just lock every door in the house because his daughter leaves unattended any time she gets taken. That's it.

Just hide under the bed. You know the drill. Now what she does, she calls up. He's got a voicemail box and he just hands it to the kidnappers. And it's just him doing this particular set of skills. Like recorded messages like, if you're listening to this, you're probably a terrorist who's kidnapped my daughter. Just to let you know, I have a particular series of skills.

I'm going to kill you. I'm going to kill you. Absolutely. We can probably skip over that then. Yeah, probably. Minority Report tape is set in the movie universe. It is, yeah. That was last year.

It takes one of the precogs. Is that right? Am I right? Yeah. Like the original actor. Well, it's all three oh is it it's all three of the same cat so basically it's 10 years after the movie no tom cruise uh but they've dismantled the precog program and uh but one of the precogs keeps getting precognitive flashes so he can, he keeps seeing murders and he keeps like running to the scene of where the murder is going to happen,

but he's always too late. Like there's a scene where he, he like runs in the middle of a town square and he's like, I don't know. This isn't, it's not supposed to be funny, but it is. And he runs into the town square and he's like,

what's where's the, and then like the 12th story building, like you see somebody get hurled out a window and fall to their death and land on a bus. And he's like, too late. happening again kind of thing so he he basically goes to uh so it focuses on the pre-corp not the cop yeah right yeah there's a but he goes to the cops and he's like listen i'm still doing this but if if anybody finds out that i'm still doing this they'll you know the government will capture me what have you, so let's keep this on the down low kind of thing.

And you see the other two because, one, he sees the murders, his brother sees details, so he sees names and addresses. He sees the murders, his brother hears them, and the other one speaks to them. That's right. So the other one's just working at a cashier at a grocery store and they're just like, murder, there was a murder, guys. It's okay though, right?

It's pretty good. I mean, it's not still around. I think it lasted like 10 episodes or something, but it was pretty good. I liked it. Okay. I just think it's weird though that you would take the central character out of the film and make a TV series through the character thread

and no lines. I guess it's cheaper than holographic gloves and interfaces. That's in there though. Oh, it is? That's all the, like, it's upgraded, but it's also cheaper looking. Right. Because, like, they can do it quicker now

because the special effects stuff is there. I mean, I would be more interested if it was more about, so it's 10 years later and they're trying to restart the precog program because that was the whole point, right, is they said it was flawless, but then they discovered it could be manipulated. right someone's coming out said oh look now this is 2.0 whatever yeah that would be more interesting why don't they do that show yeah good point who knows why did they answer me hey speaking of shows that didn't have the original

protagonist and it's kind it feels very much the same limitless did you guys watch limitless it's good but it's also it's samey because like minority report it's the you have to you have to put it you know you get limitless the idea of it and you have to make a procedural out of it how do you do that every time and so they have to build like a certain setup where he's always helping the cops and it's always right he's always fighting crime but it's always he always has to take his drug to become limitless and then you know and bradley cooper's in it as well he's in a brief he's in an intimate producer as well yeah but he but the being handsome yeah exactly yeah professionally handsome man the the

i don't believe the plot was ever like the the because he he kept showing up and he's like listen the the premise was basically that if you take the limitless drug eventually you start to erode like your teeth rot and you fall to pieces but bradley cooper's because he's rich and he's been on the drug for ages he's developed a cure he mentions that at the end of the yeah so he so he gives it to this other guy like secretly sorry so this the the main protagonist the main protagonist is sort of this slacker you know slacker dude he appears to be the only person who's immune to it, but secretly he's receiving this drug to prevent him from dying.

And so they're like, we're going to bring you on in our FBI task force and you can solve crimes kind of thing. And so, but Bradley Cooper's like, okay, I'm going to, you're my in to the FBI for secret reasons. But we never find out what the secret reasons are, so. That's frustrating. Yeah.

Political. But imagine what they'd be. Politics. Politics, right? Didn't he want to run for president probably it's probably president probably president stuff yeah president stuff president we can all agree it's president can we all agree three yeses to that can we all agree that the crow had a tv series called the crow stairway to heaven yeah with uh mark the cascus of double dragon fan yes very good uh didn't say it what was it terrible yeah yeah Yeah, with Mark Dacascos. Ah, no way. Of Double Dragon fame. Yes. Very good. Didn't say it.

What was it, bad? Terrible. Yeah, really good. I mean, The Crow is one of those things where that first film was lightning in a bottle. Yep. They should have just left it. Everything they've made afterwards has sucked.

It was of its time. I think it holds up. I know it's very much, it depends how you feel about that, very gothy sort of mid-90s. It was of the time, but I think it still works. But I think also, I mean, you just can't get past the potency of the fact that Brandon Lee died making that film and it's such a fantastic performance.

Everything else after that is just going to pale in comparison. So Mark Dacascos doesn't capture this. No, and I think they only cast him because he's sort of got the slightly similar Eurasian look as Brandon Lee. And he does kung fu, sort of. Well, he look as Brandon Lee. And he does Kung Fu sort of. Well, he does double dragoning. Yeah, that's right.

Whatever style of fighting that is. Arguably, he does Kung Fu. Okay. Well, it's also, it suffers from that problem that the Crow is, the film is in, you know, there's quite dark themes in that. Like this guy and his wife, she was like raped and murdered and he was thrown from a tower and stuff. This one suffers from the same problem as Robocop

where it's all like a lot of shot during the daytime. Oh, good. Daytime crow ain't good. No. So he's got the makeup and everything, but he's walking around in there. Yeah, it's like Batman sitting in the jungle. Yeah, that's right.

He's like, I'm the crow right now, but I've got two dates on opposite sides of town. I've got to keep running back and forth. I seem to remember the stairway to heaven being like this metaphorical bridge that, you know, he was seeking solace in the afterlife, but it was just like- Was he a new crow? I seem to remember the stairway to heaven being like this metaphorical bridge that, you know, he, that was his, he was seeking solace in the afterlife, but it was just like,

was he a new wooden foot bridge? Like they'd just gone down to the Yarrow. That's a good question. Was he? Cause also he would, cause Edward Furlong was the crow. That's right. Someone else was the crow before that.

Yeah. Spanish actor. Yeah. In the terrible sequel. Yeah. David Boreanaz no he was a villain in one of the crows

right okay yeah very good but like and again if it's a series like how long has it taken

this dude to get vengeance it doesn't yeah I thought the whole thing about the crow was it comes to help you you know a soul that's a bit restless

yeah so once you've done your little business get out of here yeah get out of here crow what are you doing here that would make an interesting series where every episode or couple of episodes,

there's a new The Crow. I think that would be pretty cool. Yeah, but I guess it would be harder to sell to anyone. It's like, how do you get them to hook into... You want to sell it off the back of a... You keep the same bird, the same crow. Same crow. You build up a...

Voiced by Gilbert Godfrey. Yeah, you go, I'm the crow. I'm here. Build up a famous crow. Great. Watch all of that. You know what I hated at the time, and I hate it even more now because I've looked at clips and it's terrible.

The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles. I never saw that. Horrendous. It was very edutainment. That's what I hate about it. Don't sneak geometry into Indiana Jones, you son of a bitch. Because it's always like, we've got to use this pulley to get this basket of rocks. Oh, so it's like education.

Oh, it's horrible. Yeah. Get out of here with that shit. Exactly. And it was like, it's Sean Patrick Flannery. Sean Patrick Flannery. And he's fine. The guy who was almost a star.

Almost. He nearly made it. Everyone seemed to love him. He's kind of like, who's that dude who's in all the Star Trek, you know, he's in Star Trek and Stand By Me. Oh, Will Wheaton. Will Wheaton. Yeah. Like, you know, Will Wheaton had,

and then has just adopted this new space within, you know, the kind of geek culture. And Sean Patrick Flannery, he was kind of like, he had that similar kind of. Like the boondock saints. The geeks loved him. Yeah. The geeks loved him.

Yeah, right. But he never got that. He never sort of transcended into like, you know, Ryan Reynolds territory. Like a rung below Nathan Fillion, who got Castle him. Yeah. Maybe geeks loved him. Yeah, right. But he never got that. He never sort of transcended into Ryan Reynolds' territory. Like a rung below Nathan Fillion, who got cast on that. Yeah. And all that, yeah. Yeah, what's he up to now, Sean Patrick Flaring? I don't know.

I'll tell you. Here we go. He's written a novel. What? Yeah. Oh, here we are making fun of him. Let's see. He was in Saw, the final chapter.

He was in Dexter. Yep. He was in The Young and the Restless. There you go wow yeah he's working yeah

good on him good on him SPF 15 plus but anyway it's terrible but they also used it as a

it was a looks good for 51 is he 51 yeah he looks a bit like Keith Urban in that photo he does yeah that's what I meant

great for 51 but I remember hearing more recently that a lot of what they did in that was just to kind of pioneer stuff at lucasfilm and try and do things on the cheap there's a lot of special effects and things where there's a crowd and they'll paste multiple people just to see if they could do like i had a huge budget for what it was because lucasfilm wasn't also really doing anything this is you know they're kind of after star wars and how the darker kind of stalled a bit in terms of like they did like you know special effects and whatnot but they didn't do their own projects yeah so this kind of enhanced a lot of stuff towards like the prequels and yeah I think the idea was also to maybe yeah because they learned lessons for this which they wanted to do in the Star Wars series that was that never went to air

that they wanted to do after I remember that remember in Australia there was talk in the early 2000s about a TV series they were going to shoot in Australia. Yes. And I had friends who were... Yeah, you heard that? Yeah, Matt Newton. Matt Newton was going to be Quinlan Vos or something like that. Yeah, yeah.

I don't really know my Star Wars characters that well, but I remember I had a few friends who had these clandestine kind of meetings with Lucasfilm. Like he would just, you'd be brought in for a meeting and it'd just be very vague discussions. I don't know if it was actually with George Lucas or Kathleen Kennedy or whoever was producing at the time. But like no script or anything like that.

It just took a vague meet and greet. Right, yeah. Which is, I've auditioned for George Miller a couple of times. Right. He does, he just sends you you get sent five um generic kind of monologues and you can just choose one and that's what you do you just go in and apparently he's been doing that since like the first mad max film is that's is it the same five i don't know if it's the same fun monologue but he just he won't you won't audition

for the role you will do something unrelated and then within that he will say something that he likes what have you auditioned for of his uh i just auditioned for justice league really yes what were you what part well you don't know because you're just doing this generic monologue i mean i assume i was going in for um cyborg absolutely yeah uh i i don't know i mean the thing is a lot of these big hollywood films do do casting calls in australia and it's essentially you're just spitting into the wind like you don't honestly believe that any you're even going to get part anyone's going to see it or anything like that like it's just that that's why you have powerful big agents and powerful big managers and stuff because their job is to get your tape

in front of someone directly that's you know so it is i was going to ask you that later but that it's very much a case of it's who you know and you just can't like you said spitting into the wind is that what it is trying to i mean look i'm sure there have been people who've been plucked you know the marilyn monroe thing of you know plucked from somewhere because of whatever yeah but more often than not it's about you know working and networking and getting the right representation and doing the right roles and getting seen by the right people. Does that annoy you as opposed to just merit-based? Or you're like, well, this is part of it.

I'm not saying that as that lacks merit. I mean, that's the job. Sure, yeah, yeah. But it's also, there's no justice in the world. Certainly not. You know, a friend of mine worked on a Brett Ratner movie and he said that, like it was gruelling, and he said that at one stage one of the other actors

who was quite a well-known guy pulled him aside and said, look, this is your first big Hollywood film. Let me just say to you, the best way to think about this is imagine the person you hate the most with the least amount of talent doing really well and imagine the person you like the most with all the talent in the world doing really badly and you'll be okay in Hollywood.

Jesus. Because it is one of those things where there's no rhyme or reason why there's so many factors. Like I see my wife's a director. I watch her watch audition tapes and she literally will sit with her finger on fast forward because the person she's looked, she has a very specific thing in her mind. So if that person comes in and they don't give her that

for the first two seconds when they walk in the door she's on to the next person right so there's a lot of i mean it's there's a lot of things you learn like auditioning is not acting auditioning is a different skill like yes you've got to present something in an artificial environment that i've heard it's brutal well i i don't mind it but it can be it can be soul destroying yeah like it can be awful because you know you're sort of really going into this like a room not dissimilar to the man cave oh yeah you know with a group of people who don't seem to be interested in you or anything yeah like this

yeah and you're trying to make yeah you're trying to make them like you like this yeah oh am i auditioning for something correct yes so you. So you're out. Oh, yeah. Right. Okay. So, but do you, you obviously get a bit of traction because that's how you started getting pushed around by Amanda Santa and, you know, you've worked your way up to this. Yeah. So every time you do something, is that like, you get a little bit more on your resume? Yeah, I think so.

You meet another person, you get better. Yeah. A hundred percent. Like, I think some people, every act is different. You know, some people come out of drama school and they land something straight away and, you know, and they're off to the races. But I'd say more often than not, like back in my day, like I see, I think a lot of young actors now, you know,

you see the Hemsworth path. Yeah. So a lot of young actors are like, I just want to get on Home and Away or Neighbours or something like that, do my time, and then I'm straight over to Hollywood, which I think can work. But I also think there is something to be said for taking a bit more time and getting the runs on the board here, because I will go over to LA and I will talk to managers

and agents over there, Americans, like, hey, we met this young guy who said he was on Home and Away, and then the guy had done like three weeks but he's now in la trying to get started and i think look it's great to have that ambition and stuff but that is a huge fucking machine over there that if you are not ready if you don't have you even like slowly acclimatized to the rejection yeah it's gonna really hurt when you get over there because that's not a pleasant place to be when you're not doing anything yeah you know like you want to i think i have been beaten down by years and years of rejection to the point where i don't really feel it anymore right yeah so my skin's a bit it's almost expected like this would be nice but yeah i mean it's just one of

those things where i like i said everyone's different and i'm not saying you know you have to do it this way but i think that you that the more time you can you can work on it and get used to not just the actual job, I mean, I'm leaving the job aside here, what you have to do for a living, but the actual environment you're in because it's completely bizarre and artificial and if you tie your self-esteem into it,

you'll want to blow your brains out. I mean, that's why a lot of actors, you know, become drug addicts or child actors, have terrible lives and they get older because the actual world of it is very strange and artificial right and then when you're back in the real world like for instance child actors that the dynamic with a child actor is once through an actor is treated very well on set because ultimately they have to deliver the goods so you know they're picked up from their accommodation and they're you know taken into makeup and they're brought food they're

brought drinks and someone holds an umbrella over their head if the sun's out like you really mollycoddle because by the time you get that person in front of a camera you want them thinking about nothing else but delivering you know what they have to do at the moment so i understand that philosophy good actors and good people understand that there's that's not real but that's just that's just for that time frame they're being treated like that but that's not because they're better than anyone else right but you put a child into that equation and suddenly you're inverting the natural order of things all of a sudden adults are running around after them picking up things for them it's not like it's not good for kids man like having worked a lot with kids you can't you have to for lack of a better word you've got to

beat them down a bit yeah it's like just one thing i'm saying you gotta hit them a lot i mean you have to finally we've got him move in move in like they they have a lot of kids have an ego that could i could understand how they could get out of check and then you grow into cory feldman yeah you know when you when you're in that environment like you're talking about yeah not beat down just so we're clear it It's a metaphor. I left teaching voluntarily. It's just that thing of you need to have a grasp. I've seen parents be really good with their kids who are actors because they will treat it like a job. The kid still has to do their tutor hours. They don't get to hang out with the cast on weekends and stuff.

They have to be a kid. They can come to work and they can treat it like a paper round essentially right but they don't get to you know they're not going to be doing all the interviews and because it is confusing people start treating you differently and if you're 15 years old and you're on a show like home and away and all of a sudden like girls are paying more attention to you or you know people are probably letting you into the pub all this kind of stuff but there's a lot of things that of pitfalls and you've just got to have like a really good support network i'm not saying you know i if i had a kid who wanted to be an actor i'd be like fuck but if i really wanted to do it i would set in some fairly stringent things in place because you just don't

want them feeling like the world is not a, the world can't be a performance. Like you can't, you can't sort of walk into a bank or something and, and, and, you know, and perform like the real world doesn't want to hear your shit. Like,

unless you have a podcast. Yeah. Wow. That's yeah. It sounds insane. Like, yeah, but you obviously love it.

Like there's obviously upsides to it. Yeah, no, I mean, look, it's, of course, it's like, it's like any job, but it's just one of those things where it's like the glamour that some people think of when they think of that is undersells how much the grind goes on as well. Right. You know, like it's sort of, I mean, I haven't worked my entire career. It's not like, you know, from the time I started acting, I've just been gain gainfully employed there's been times where I didn't know how I was going to pay my rent yeah you know and there and there's definitely been times where I'm like maybe I should just

give this away like before Home and Away came along I hadn't really worked for about five years what were you going to do well I was producing right and I was like okay well maybe I didn't you did some short films as well yeah and that as well yeah yeah and I was like well I had a pretty good run like you know maybe I'm 35 now maybe that's me done and then home and away came along it's like okay i'll just give it one more shot and found out that i liked it again but for me the secret is to always have stuff outside of acting whether right whether it's a job or whatever but or a family or a life but you can't make it your because too many actors tie their self-esteem into whether or not they're working or not and it's that's fraught with danger i mean i'd say

that with any job really if you're because it's so sporadic like so spread it's not like nine to five and it's mostly rejection yeah like you're more often than not like i'll tell you a little story that i guess i can tell now because i'm not on the show anymore but weekly planet exclusive continue when I was uh on home and away I was up in the production office one day and I saw a dvd on a desk that was all the recalls the character that I ended up getting the role I ended up getting right so I nicked it and I took it to my dressing room and I put it on and I was like this is gonna be great I'm gonna see me just blow away all these fucking other lame-o actors, blah, blah, blah. So there's eight dudes on this tape,

but they were all great. Like every one of them, any one of them could have got the job. Like they were all excellent. There was no rhyme or reason why I, well, there's obviously a rhyme or reason. The producers, the directors,

whoever decided that for whatever reason, I was the guy. Yeah. But there was no obvious reason why it should have been me there's all those guys did great jobs they all look good they all could have played that they all did something different it's just and so that's the thing you've got to let go of as an actor is like so is that a moment for you like this is completely random almost yeah that and also watching like i said watching my wife cast things it's like

you can't go into it going as long as as I do an excellent job, everything will be fine. Because that's not how it works. They're not going to cast you because I've already cast a guy who looks a bit like you and I think will be too confusing. You know, they're not going to cast you because, you know, the girl that just cast is really tall and you're going to look short next to her. Like there's things you cannot control. But if you just think, well, as long as I do all the classes and I'm just an awesome actor and I'm really great in the room, of course, that's going to help. But ultimately you have no power. And that's what you've got to, and that's what you've come, that's what you've got to come to reconcile, I think, as an actor is you are the lowest, you're an essential creative

element, but you are the lowest rung creatively. And and replaceable like there's a thousand of you ultimately someone else tells you what to say what to wear how your hair should look you know very few actors like will smith and russell crowe and i guess a few others you know have tom cruise have involvement and they produce as well but that's why i think a lot of actors now do get into producing like margot robbie's producing the new harley quinn because as soon as you get a little bit of power you're like fuck it like yeah i'm not yeah i'm not gonna be the one who's like not gonna hide because i'm too short or too tall or too fat or too skinny or whatever it is and that's the idea as well behind this movie i assume yeah yeah well i mean i originally wrote the part one of the parts myself but i've subsequently gotten too old all right you can't

play a teenage girl no not anymore so you're not you're not gonna be in it or no what can you can you talk about it or you're like i can't read i don't know if i can talk about i mean shooting in january the synopsis is it's set in australia it's all right here's the pitch here's my elevator i'm ready it's basically winter's bone meets children of men got Gotcha. So it's set in Australia after a series of environmental disasters has meant a lot of Australians have been forced inland because of flooding and the cities are becoming sort of uninhabitable. But it's mainly middle-class Australians have been forced into these refugee camps.

So there is a girl in there who's with her brother and their mother goes missing and then they get separated by docks, children's services. So she goes looking for her brother and their mother goes missing and then they get separated by docs children's services so she goes looking for her brother she goes on this mission but she gets sidetracked by this um gang of guys and then ends up on this mountain with this with this dude this loner this person has had no contact with the world for like 15 years and he seems like scary at first but who knows maybe this odd couple uh yeah so it's kind Yeah, so it's sort of like a coming-of-age genre. I mean, it's hard to sort of classify it, but yeah, Children of Men meets Winter's Bone is kind of...

And maybe January starts? Maybe, yeah. I think we're going in for funding in September, which means if we're all going to plan, yeah, January we should be shooting. Sweet. Yeah, and then I can be back on this show. Yeah, absolutely. january we should be shooting sweet yeah yeah and then i can be back on this show yeah absolutely

well should we wrap up the tv movie uh talk thing what we're doing the topic yeah should we go to the next thing some are good some are bad yeah anyone does anyone got anything to add before we move on i've got some more acting questions well for later if that's all right yeah yeah sure we find it we've turned to the inside the actor's studio. That's right. That's great though. Are you going to ask me what my favorite swear word is? Because it's, no. Because we don't, I mean, we're too regular. We don't.

We're just a couple of Joe lunch pies. Yep. Just a couple of regular dudes. That's fascinating to me. Like we speculate about a bunch of stuff, but we don't actually know. I don't, I'm only speaking for myself. Of course.

I'm sure every actor's perception is different. And there's probably people listening to this right now going what a fucking wanker you know blah blah um fuck you guys but i mean that's just that's that's been my experience like i've had friends who've had completely different careers to me much more successful and not as successful but i would say we generally all have the same viewpoint on it. Crazy. All right. Well, Mason. That's fine. It's time for what we're doing.

Yeah. That's the next segment. What are we going to read? What are we going to read? I'm doing the thing. What are we reading today? Mason, do you have a what are we reading? Rick and Morty's back.

I know it is. How good is it? I love it. So good. I've had people comment on the internet and be like, nah, not as good, this meh, meh. No, it's exactly as good. It's exactly as great.

It's like they haven't missed a beat. Yeah. Yeah. What do you want? What do they want? They're on a Mad Max Fury Road post-apocalyptic future. It's the internet. Everyone hates everything.

Like Jesus himself could come down and someone would be like, oh, God, here we come. Son of God. Boring. Boring. Do something new. But at the same time, don't do something new because it's not the same as what you did last time.

They're never happy, these people. But also the first episode from this season, which they streamed like two months ago, is amazing. Like the breakout one. Like I would say this one is not as strong as the first one but it's still a really good stuff yeah really good yeah so is it only first two eps first two yeah yeah yeah and you said they're on netflix they're on netflix so you don't have to steal it off the internet so explain the second episode's not

netflix yes it is yeah oh it's just come out then yeah because i was checking netflix on friday i couldn't see it no it's there oh shut up yeah that's right I've looked at Netflix well I've also watched Netflix Mason I watched Voltron

Legendary Defenders season 3 only 7 episodes because they seem like they've split it into 2 yep it's great I love it

I'm a big Voltron fan well not really it's not great is it in hindsight but the new season's really good it is really good Voltron

kid in the 80s yeah I was a lion Voltron not a car Voltron like Yeah, I was a Lion Voltron, not a Car Voltron. Like this dickhead who liked Car Voltron. No one likes Car Voltron. Oh, come on, guys. So the cars go together and they make like a block. Like each of them, the land and the air and the city. How many cars do you need to make a Voltron?

Yeah, man. Like 15 or something? Yeah, right. I know the feet were cars. That was cool. Feet were cars, exactly. It's like you had little skates on. Hang on, so this is the new is the new is this a new Voltron

the one that came out last year it's a reboot it's got who's the guy from because I watched one that was quite good and animated one

the guy who did the people who did Avatar The Last Airbender do it and it's really solid yeah and it's funny too you wouldn't think

it would be funny what's his name from Rhys Darby it's got Rhys Darby so no it's definitely well worth it

also just quickly we did our Caravan of garbage this week for tuesday uh is on the only voltron game yeah and it's fine and then it's the worst thing ever so it operates in stages uh it's like four years ago oh my god yeah yeah yeah but it's based on the old what like yeah anyway and look without giving too much away, we're like, this is fine, but it'll be great when you Voltron. It's not. No, it's not.

It's real, real bad. What about you, Charlie? You've been watching, reading, doing stuff? I've been keeping up with Saga. Right, yeah, great. I'm way behind, yeah. Because I wait until they release the collected volumes and then I buy it on Comixology

so I love it I just think I try and describe it to people especially non-comic book readers even people who read comic books and it's impossible

to categorize yeah right like I mean how would you you guys are more comic literate than me how would you describe it to people

I'd say it's like Star Wars but there's it's more blood and gore and stuff but that doesn't exactly that doesn't do it,

but I think that would get somebody in to be like, if you like Star Wars, this is like extreme Star Wars. But it's also funny. Yes, it is. But you can't even, but you can't, if you say it's like Star Wars but it's more violent, that's too broad. But if you go more specific, it makes, you'd be like,

but there's also a weird soap opera where, like a virtual reality soap opera, people would be like, well, that doesn't jive with, it's an epic. Why is a weird soap opera where, like a virtual reality soap opera, people would be like, well, that doesn't jive with, it's an epic. Why is there a soap opera happening at the same time? I mean, sometimes I read comic books. Like if I'm ever recommended a new comic book, I read it to go, is this a pitch for a movie?

Yeah, right. Mark Millar does a lot of that. A lot of, I mean, that's the way, I know Greg McLean, like for a long time he was turning screenplays into comic books because he was told that is the best way to get people across the material. He's like, well, you're essentially storyboarding your film. Yeah, right.

But you're also creating a universe, you're creating a brand, and it runs into brands. But I, because I thought, when I was reading Saga, I'm like, oh man, this would be an amazing film. And then I'm like, it's actually unfilmable. Could it?

You could not do it. That's exactly right. It could be a TV show in 10 years oh sorry or a tv show but i don't but i think tonally it's so all over the show yeah yeah i don't know how you would how you'd execute a live action version i think i think with technology you could give it a red hot go but not now i think movie definitely not i don't think you could compress enough of it into it yeah and it probably wouldn't make it but you think the genre is the way it shifts from like violent paul vera hoven action to kind of screwball comedy to kind of yeah but tv is i mean i'm not i've got to admit i'm not enjoying seeing

um hazel grow up right i'm way out of the loop all right yeah hazel hazel's like seven years old now oh yeah yeah and i don't like that i don care about kids. I don't want to know her story. I liked it better when she was just a voiceless narrator, a faceless narrator. Yeah, I feel it might become, and I haven't seen it yet, but Valerian. You know, it's this enormous space universe and it's been going for years and people love it.

But what is that? Is that the film that Luke puts on? Yeah. Is that still going? The comic book? Yeah. I don't think so. So the movie's based on the comic book? comic book yes yeah so it's not an original

property at all I was asked to use my social media profile to endorse that film like sponsored posters really yeah and I was like cool I sure yeah I can do that can I see it first well yeah yeah and but then I said we want you to also have a chat with Lucaske basson and i'm like why like what this is this would seem insane and contrived yeah suddenly it's like hey guys just chat with him on twitter well they wanted they wanted some video content i don't know if it was like you know an interview or just like hey it's me and luke basson you know right right on instagram really we're on a speedboat guys yeah but i. But I'm like, that's going to feel so weird and contrived,

particularly to people who do follow my social media. Yeah. All of a sudden, I'm hanging out with Luc Besson. Yeah, right. I don't hang out with Luc Besson. So did you say no?

Or were you like, maybe I'll kind of like, when I started asking questions, I think they were like, this is getting too hard. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We don't want a guy who asks questions.

The office rescinded, yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of people who would do that. Like us, probably. I'm not a guy. If I'm on a speedboat with Luc Besson, I'll do it. I'm not against selling out at all. At least let me know what I'm selling out.

Nice watch, by the way, Charlie. I should check that out. Maybe it's good. I don't know. Well, I've heard some people love it. I've heard some good things. Also, Atomic Blonde, which I've heard is... Primo?

I've heard it's a fascinating... It's good action sequences and it's a fascinating premise, but the movie itself is kind of boring. Oh, okay. That's a shame. I don't love the cast either. You don't like James McAvoy? No, it's not him.

It's Dane DeHaan. Oh, so you're talking about Valerian. We're still talking about Valerian. We've switched to Atomic Blonde. Oh, we have too. Sorry. Where was I? Keep up.

I should keep up. I'm on this show all the time. Yep. Okay, so James McAvoy, is it? Is it Soviet Russia? Is that right? Yeah, in the 80s, yeah. Okay, fair enough.

Which is a fascinating era, I feel. We haven't seen late 80s, early 90s Russia since Goldeneye, I feel. And that's a fascinatingly weird universe. I'm a fan of Charlize Theron beating dudes up because I think of the film heroines, she seems genuinely like she could do it. She seems quite athletic and strong. Fury Road. Yeah, that fight sequence in Fury Road is amazing.

It's so great. It's borderline like slapstick comedy. is amazing. It's nuts, yeah. The car door. It's so great. It's borderline like slapstick comedy. It is. It really is, yeah. Should we move on to the next segment? Actually, before we do, a quick plug for me. Should we move on to the next segment? No, because of plungs.

Okay. I was on two. I did the double this week. I was on Be Right With Your Mates, guys, the podcast. I'm familiar with that, yeah. I was on that. And it was also on It's a Duck Blur, where we discussed the 100th episode of DuckTales

the final episode of DuckTales the final episode made it to 100 guys that's right yeah what a milestone anyway they're on the iTunes

check those out good episode had a really good time on both of those fantastic I mean sure one podcast made me dinner and one podcast didn't

but that's so I'm not playing favourites no why would you you're a fair man Duck Blur made me dinner Sarah made me dinner yeah they're good like that yeah

all right do the theme song oh yeah we got another segment get to see this live Charlie it's called Letters this is amazing the classic one was

the letters oh letters we love you some letters they're only a take my way I know they're here right now

we're gonna do Letters I always assumed that was pre-recorded. No, no, no. We do this every week. Every week. All right. I would not stand for an editing procedure that made me sound like an idiot. I'd rather a real-life process that makes me definitely be an idiot.

It's funny. I mean, I know it's not you singing. Right. But in the theater of my mind. It's me singing. It's you singing. I bring out a little ukulele and I'm like

okay guys just going to tune up here we go whenever there's a TV show with a theme people always assume the person in the show like with growing pains

it's like that's Alan Thicke singing that song yeah right Baywatch it's David Hasselhoff it's like no like it's a musician

doing it he could do it he could do it if he wanted yeah it's because we've been ruined by Dennis Waterman doing the theme to Minder that's probably why.

Jesus. The Weekly Planet for all your Minder references. Yeah, it's a deep cut for the American listeners. If you want to reach the show, you can hashtag Weekly Planet Pod on Twitter. We'll find a couple of them there. Or email us at weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com, which when Mason goes through it and he's like,

nah, this one's shit, and then he picks a better one. That's right. Yeah, in fact, I've got a very special letter this week. I'm excited. This is from my friend Ralph. Ralph from Cake Boss. Yeah, yeah. Who was a very big booster of the show in the early years.

Suddenly we got a whole bunch of listeners. Where'd they come from? Ralph is boosting us up on Twitter. Ralph's spam bots. Was he the Brian Epstein who broke you in the US? He may very well have been. He may well have been, yeah. The Ed Sullivan Show.

That's right, yeah. It's all Twitter now. So anyway, Ralph sent us a letter. He's spearheading a fundraiser for the Make-A-Wish Foundation, which ends August the 9th, which is pretty soon. He has set a $25,000 goal. They're about halfway there. Sweet.

And at the end of it himself and the cake boss himself are going to shave their friend Danny's moustache for the first time in 30 years so they're doing it on a live stream from the Make-A-Wish headquarters and if you want to donate as little as $5 you can go to wish.org

slash Danny Shaves and they're going to bloody be careful googling Danny Shaves yeah it's now that I think about it did you know the cake boss guys have worked with 100 Make-A-Wish kids And they're going to bloody... Be careful Googling Danny Shade. Yeah, it's now that I think about it. Yeah. Did you know the Cakebox guys have worked with 100 Make-A-Wish kids? Really?

Yeah. Yeah. And why wouldn't you? You go to a bloody cake shop, we get a cake, but they're making a bloody Spider-Man cake. That's crazy. Yeah, yeah. Okay, good stuff.

Yeah. And it's like they're actual sculptures, and then there's a cake in them. That's art, my friends. That's art you can eat. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, exactly. More art's right yeah exactly that's what i say why can i eat the mona lisa what a waste of art you could eat it if you wanted maybe not the frame but you could probably eat the the camera you could eat it on a dare probably i used to want to eat books a lot i'm i used to like really i used to like have this thing about books i would i love the smell of books and as a kid i'd often like try

and bite through the pages like you if you went books. And as a kid, I'd often try and bite through the pages. If you went to my bedroom as a kid and went through the Narnia Chronicles or whatever, you'd find little teeth marks right around the books. And then one day you're on the set of Home and Away and you're just like, okay, well, I'm in the diner. Chewing on my script. Give me some books. And they're like, what?

And you're like, oh, this isn't normal, is it? You don't remember lines. You adjust lines so is that the way all actors do it that's right yeah i mean you're an actor but you probably if anyone else wants to help out uh helped out uh about our buddy ralph yeah see how weird a guy would look without a mustache i know right yeah so they're nearly there i reckon we can push them over the line i think so yeah uh this is from Ernie on Twitter hashtag weekly

planet pod last week's pod talking about the Dark Knight with Will Anderson your friend from Tofop the podcast you also do

people should also check that out got me thinking about what's your favourite intro for a film so the Dark Knight famously has the Heath Ledger

why am I explaining it literally everybody who is in this room and who's listening to this knows what I'm talking about do you guys have like a favourite

opening for a film? Ooh. I do like the Mad Max car crash. Did you mention Mad Max before? From the first one, the caravan. The Fury Road one, sorry. Oh, right. Yeah.

Yeah. That is pretty, eh, that's good. That's like a set of world record, I think, for roles. It did too. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's a hard question. I mean, there's so many like amazing openings in films.

Let's just leave it at that then yep Jaws I guess is pretty good yeah yeah fair enough like let's go for a nudie swim and then what the fuck's happening

yep you know that's good yeah can't beat the opening of Star Wars yeah yeah the big thing

flying over the screen Phantom Menace yeah yeah no I mean that's I feel like any kind of tentpole movie that kind of moves things forward

have like this amazing opening sequence set piece we call it in the biz that's what you call it set piece gotcha I love the opening scene of Ghostbusters where well it's not

it's technically the second scene but where they go to the library and they encounter the ghostly librarian and they're like get her like that's their whole plan it's just like, all right. Yeah. I do.

I mean, I'm not a fan of the Pirates films, but the first Pirates of the Caribbean, it's not the opening scene, but it's the best character introduction, which is when you meet Captain Jack Sparrow and it's this like heroic, glorious shot of him gliding across in front of the sky. And then as the camera pulls out, you realize he's standing on a sinking ship. Yeah, right.

And just as the boat sinks, he steps off and just gets on a pier and it tells you everything you need to know about that character in one shot. Yeah. Did you see the new one? No, I told you. No, I checked that out after that. What's the one with the squid face guy?

Two or three. That literally made me want to vomit. Yeah. Like, it was unbearable. It's so long. I have a phobia. There's a name for it, and it's a common phobia.

Lots of holes together. Oh, yeah, sure, yeah. Google hole phobia. Lots of holes together. It's called something. It's like this certain fruit that if you slice it, it looks like lots of holes. And apparently it's related to like it's a caveman thing

where we get taught to recognize rotting flesh. Because my wife used to think I was making it up, but then I found this fucking thing online. It's like, this is a real phobia people have. Trypophobia? That must be it. So what about like a spaghetti strainer thing?

Or is it like something natural? If it's organic, it makes me feel gross. Like sponges, sea sponges gross me out a bit. Certain plants gross me out. Okay. It's just a fear of holes and their reaction is so severe that they can cause panic attacks. No, not that bad.

Not that bad? No, but squid... Well, we'll see because we've got some real weird stuff out here. We're going to parade some things in. But squid face in Pirates of the Caribbean, whoever that was, like it was just constant twitching holes. Yeah, right. Slimy, flipping, twitching holes.

It was like I'm watching open-heart surgery or something. It says girls are hot sweats, panic attacks, migraines, increased heart rate. Jesus. Hey, speaking of, because we talked about- Basically, I'm Superman. I just told you that kryptonite's great. That's right.

In the next negotiation we have onite's great. That's right. In the next negotiation we have on Planet Broadcasting. What's your Twitter handle? CXClawson. Maybe people could send you some stuff as well. You son of a bitch. So again, we talked about Batman last week. Yeah.

I only mention this because when we get a Gmail, Gmail gives us some like pre-made options you can just send back to somebody like it just it just generates automatic responses so something so steven strickland has is uh emailed and he said uh something about the dark knight trillies always bothered me that blake who's played by joseph gordon levitt strolls into wayne manor and tells bruce that he knows bruce is batman because they're both orphans and you can see it in his smile or in his face or what have you. And it just seems like a bit of a stretch. Thoughts?

And just one of these automated responses says, I'm down for whatever. Can you send that back? I will, yeah. Can I ask you guys, I heard you talking with Will about The Dark Knight and there is something that has always bothered me that I've never quite understood a plot point in that yep why was it necessary for commissioner gordon to fake his own

death to then be the guy driving the truck to draw the joker out like i don't understand yeah why did i mean if the whole point was to draw the joker out all that needed to happen was harvey dent comes out and says i'm the batman yeah that's going to draw the j out. All that needed to happen was Harvey Dent comes out and says, I'm the Batman. That's going to draw the Joker out. You could still have that same truck sequence. But why all this palaver? I mean, surely that was city funds that was going into paying for that state funeral. His family thought he was dead.

Yeah, like why did he have to be off the radar? Probably just wants a couple of days off from his bloody wife and kids, am I right? Am I right, everybody? I know what you're saying. Yeah, you know what's up. As a father? Yeah.

God, I ran into another father at the park the other day. The worst. The worst. I'm staying with friends in Melbourne at the moment. And the husband's away. And the wife is minding their little daughter. And I was heading out. And I said, what are you doing today?

And she's like, ugh. She's having a play date. And I was like, what do you mean? She's going, well, you know, she's made friends at a kindergarten so now the one of the parents is coming around we're gonna have to hang out while our kids play it sucks god i never thought of that it's like i'm gonna make friends with the kids parents it's coming up man i don't even want to be friends with the kid that's right and look they're not like the guy was nice he's like how old is he i'm like shut up neither of us give a fuck. You just threw your coffee in his face.

But it's, look, I understand it, but it's just not, I shouldn't discourage people from making friends in the park. But seriously, leave me alone. Last question. This is from Touchy Delph. Tortouche Delph. Dunno. Huntsman Spiders.

This is an Australian question. Huntsman Spiders is a legitimate problem in Australia. How do youph? Dunno. Huntsman spiders. This is an Australian question. Are huntsman spiders a legitimate problem in Australia? How do you deal? Need answers. What? Huntsman spiders. Are you saying he is Australian? No, he's not.

Why is he asking this question? I guess because people see huntsmans. Right. Because they're big and scary and hairy and whatever. I think they're quite placid. Yeah. They're not poisonous. I never kill spiders

I don't like spiders they creep me out a bit I'll smash a spider will you no no I won't destroy anything I can't create myself so I'll kill a child

but I won't kill a spider I had a traumatic occurrence with a spider once in the flat I was living with in living in St Kilda there was a big huntsman on the glass

and because it was a glass window I could see it's underbelly it was kind of grossing me out yeah it's got some holes there you don't want to deal with the plastic because what i like to do is trap and release yeah and so i went out with this container but at the last minute the spider made a run for it and i bisected it like yeah cut in half so the top four legs were still hanging onto the glass

and shaking as guts and and it was horrifying like it was like, it was like I was screaming. It was the worst thing I'd ever seen. And then like a couple of days later, a couple of days, I cleaned it off. A couple of days later, I walk out to the balcony again and I walked straight into a spider web

and I'm like, this is a message. Yeah. Like they're sending me a message because I firmly believe that spiders, they talk. They know if you kill one of theirs,

they're coming for you. Yeah, that's right. There's always a spider web on the way to my bins and I always walk into it every and every time i'm like yeah then you have to come inside you check yourself you know what i mean like i don't hate spiders but i don't want them on me no i've got a scar on my arm from a spider bite i got as a kid really yeah it's kind of faded do you know what it was no i just remember being at school one day looking my arm it was swollen this giant like eggy on my arm.

And it was like, oh yeah, I went to the nurse and they said it was a spider bite. So maybe that instilled in me a fucking distrust of, you know what? It's like the Predator. You know that in Predator 2 where Gary Busey is like talking about the Predator, what an amazing killer it is. And Danny Glover's like, my God, you admire him. He's like, for what it is, not for what it does.

Like I admire spiders. Absolutely. But I fucking don't want to be friends with one. Don't want to shake any of their eight hands. Don't approach him at the park if you're a spider. Leave him alone. I'll throw him a coffee right in your face. That's it.

Here's one more question before we get going. Let's do it. Paul Spooner wants to know, with the Skrulls appearing in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, which character would you like to see revealed as having been a Skrull all along? I just did a video on this, Mason. It's up right now.

Oh, that's very convenient. We didn't plan that. No. What's a Skrull? It's like a... Get out. We're deleting this episode, James. It's all gone.

That's my one requirement. You've got to know what a Skrull is. So in the Marvel comic book universe, the Skrulls are like shapeshifters. They're like green with that weird... Chin? The with that weird chin and they got the pointy ears and they can transform into anyone yeah yeah exactly and so they know i know all right jesus there's another called scrolls i was heating up a coffee yeah so basically yeah so they can be anybody and they are in Captain Marvel the movie's coming out they're introducing them

and that movie's set in the 90s which means that anybody from at least that point forward Captain Marvel's a woman yes Captain Marvel's a woman

believe it well there's a few Captain Marvel's but that particular one is also a DC Captain Marvel it's a whole thing but you probably know this can you make a video

about that because I honestly don't understand just call it Captain Marvel I read comics but I have a very surfacy understanding of comics. Like I know comics and comic book characters and stuff, but when it gets into the real depth, in-depth stuff,

you guys know so much. And I'm like, oh God. Some of it we're making up. It's kind of like Shakespeare. I don't know what you're saying. I follow it. Yeah, right. But I don't know exactly what you're talking about.

Well, me and Mason are different levels as well. Because he's like, he knows more than me. Do you guys know Justin Hamilton? Do you know? I know him, but I don't know exactly what you're talking about. Well, me and Mason are different levels as well because he knows more than me. Do you guys know Justin Hamilton? I know him, yeah. Justin is obviously a really good mate of Will's and he's the most knowledgeable comic book guy I know. I often will call him for recommendations, but I'll also just call him with questions.

Yeah, right. About why is this happening in this book that I'm reading right now? Like, these characters seem to have a lot of animosity. Has something happened? Right, right. Is that why Saga's good for you? Because it doesn't connect to anything else? Yeah, well, yeah.

And I started from the first issue. But yeah, I can't think, I got into comic books. I think Batman was the first one I got into. I was very much a DC kind of guy. I hated Marvel when I was growing up. Because I didn't like cosmic. Yeah, a lot of people get turned off by that. Like fantasy stuff.

But now, I don't know. I don't know where I sort of sit. I don't really read DC or Marvel that much anymore. Yeah, I'm kind of more, yeah. I'd probably be a better scientist. I'm indie, man. Yeah, Indie's Wind is where it's at. Yeah, we're all indie guys, yeah.

But who's a Skrull? All right. I would probably like it to be... Somebody pointed this out on Twitter. There's a brief period of time at the end of The Avengers where Tony Stark goes into deep space. Yes. And then he comes back.

What if they switched him? Yeah, absolutely. What if there was a switcheroo? Yeah, I think that would be good. And that would explain why he's been such an arsehole since then. I mean, he was an arsehole before that, but moreoo. Yeah, I think that would be good. And that would explain why he's been such an asshole since then. I mean, he was an asshole before that, but more so. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

I think they at least have to make one of the main Avengers, like him or Captain America, one. But then how does it become awkward with the whole Pepper Potts thing? Well, it could be. Yeah, well, yeah. Why is Pepper Potts back with him? Maybe she's a Skrull. Everyone's a Skrull.

Everyone's a Skrull. You're a Skrull. I'm a Skrull. We're all Skrull the whole time? Why is Pepper Potts back with him? Maybe she's a Skrull. Everyone's a Skrull. Everyone's a Skrull. You're a Skrull. I'm a Skrull. It's a real Skrull. But no, I think, and also you can get swapped out at any point. Someone could leave the room and you could swap them out. Like it wouldn't have to be the whole time. Literally in scenes.

You could go back George Lucas style and just like revamp every Marvel film and say Skrull, Skrull, Skrull. Yeah, exactly right exactly right that one you didn't like scrawl yeah yeah they could be like the captain america the captain america we woke up is is a so the whole time he hasn't been him also some scrolls are so deep undercover that they don't know they're a scroll until they're switched on oh they're like sleeper agents. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. That's, I mean, that's ludicrous. Comics are a bit funny like that. Yeah. But that's a good question. I have some questions for you, Charlie,

before we sign off, if you don't mind. Yeah, sure. Got some acting questions. You've answered a lot of them. Right. Like these are the kind of things where you don't get proper... I feel like, by the way,

that last rant I went on that just scurries a lot of people. It's not a bad life. No, absolutely not. I mean, if it's for you it's for you i think that's i think that's like valuable information okay good yeah uh but uh what do we got here so a lot of times you know you see actors and they're like it's all about the process and i'm getting into the world i hate it all like shut up like i want like do you have an acting nemesis like someone you're like roger corsner if he's a corser like corser sorry yeah i know you did a short film together.

He's a man of mine. Is there like a guy where you're like, that guy, like he's similar enough for me. Yeah, there was a period of time where Kick Gurry. Sure, yeah. He got your role in Garage Days. Yeah, I would go into auditions and Kick Gurry would be there and then he would always end up getting the role.

But no, I mean, the thing about acting too is you go through phases. Like the reason I didn't work a lot from, you know, 30 to 35 don't get in the role but uh no i mean the thing about acting too is you go through phases like the reason i didn't work a lot from you know 30 to 35 is that i was suddenly at a weird age bracket where i was too old to be young guy but not quite old enough to be dad or lawyer or whatever but now i'm starting to look older nice and so they can cast me again for girls that for actresses that happens at a different age like you literally go from being the ingenue and then suddenly you're a mum. Yeah, right.

And there's no in between. That's it. You're Jessica Alba and then you're mum. I mean, I did a pilot season in 2011 when I was, so I would have been like 34, 33 or 34. And I was asked to audition for this show as a 19-year-old. And I was like, I have grey in my hair. I'm no Luke Perry.

No one is going to be like this. So you just went, just went i'm not doing it uh no i did it oh you did absolutely yeah i put myself put the skateboard under my arm and i kept on backwards hey dudes what's facebooking oh that's awesome so you you recently did like a men's health thing yeah you got super ripped and abs you got like real person abs yeah how do you get abs what's that about it's all and uh all diet that's what i learned is that you can exercise as much as you want it doesn't matter it's what you eat so i had i've got this personal trainer who's awesome and she does body sculpting like that's her thing she competes and stuff and so she basically put me on this program and it's kind of weird you'd think

that you'd want to eat less to lose weight but you actually need to eat more so she prepared she would send me this kind of like menus each week so it's an eight-week process i lost almost 10 kilos in eight weeks let me just also say this is not a healthy thing to do this is not sustainable oh really it's not this is purely aesthetic this is not it doesn't make you fitter or stronger or more flexible it's purely for a look so you're lean you get super lean i mean you're doing a lot of weights and a lot of cardio and stuff but if you're doing fitness because you want to like you know as you get older have an active life then you should probably look into more like movement training this kind of stuff this is for you are doing this training

because you're tapering to a photo shoot on a certain day. So literally everything you do is working to this one point but either side of that one point Doesn't matter. It's impossible to maintain.

It's really hard. So she just put me on this diet where I eat five meals a day and there were sort of certain, like you'd have to weigh each thing and measure it all out

and all that kind of stuff. It's that precise. That precise. It's amazing actually. And is it based on how big you are? Yeah. It's fascinating. I didn't actually realize like towards the end of it, when I started losing the weight

about a week out from the photo shoot, she said, well, you can start playing around now with carbohydrates and stuff and just see how that affects you. I'm like, well, what do you mean? And literally at that point, when you've sort of been on a very strict diet, when you start eating certain things, you wake up the next day and your body, it's likeby mcguire and spider-man like you're waking me like oh my god like you know you've heard of carb loading people carb load yeah so if you've been like in a very lean kind of carb-free diet and then you eat a lot of carbs you bulk up you know you wake up your body's just like oh my god sugar give me some of that stuff that's amazing and then you can

sort of strip that right back down you know you if you sort of if you cut water you know generally you look that's why when you wake up hungover you generally look better when you're in the mirror because all your skin's tight there's no fluid in your body i don't yeah so i i learned as actually it was i mean part of it was because i'm i turned 40 recently and i was like fuck i've never really i've always been kind of active but i've never really challenged myself to do something sort of you know fitness based

but the one thing I learned is that it's all diet and I've actually it's completely changed the way I eat now because I used to just eat whatever

but now I'm kind of like it's not hard to make stuff that tastes good you think eating healthy is boring and like that's what we're taught

but it's actually you can do seasonings what is hard is cooking all the time and making your own right yeah like i now do all the cooking for me and my wife like it's just easier i'll go do the shopping i know and it's simple like all you really stick to is like like vegetables and and and meats if you if you're not a vegetarian like That's the simplest way. If you imagine what you'd eat at a barbecue, not sausages, but like lean meats and salads and vegetables and stuff, then you're pretty much okay. It's just lots of sugar, like alcohol, all that kind of stuff.

Right, yeah. And it's so easy to drink beer. And I love drinking beer. Yeah. But, you know. That's interesting. Yeah. Okay.

Why are we talking about this on the show? I'm just curious. I'm curious about abs. Because, you know, actors get abs. Yeah. Do you want me to talking about this on the show? I'm just curious. I'm curious about abs. Because, you know, actors get abs. Yeah. Do you want me to edit that out, Mason? Do you disapprove? No, I insist you keep it in.

Delete everything else. Just ab talk. The weekly abs. Just really quickly. Remembering lines. I've got nowhere else to go. It's fine. Maybe your audience does.

Maybe they've already left. That's right. Do you just memorize them? Can you do them? Can you have it on the day in front of you if you need it? Yeah. else to go it's fine maybe your audience does maybe they've already left that's right uh do you just memorize them can you do a month can you have it on the day in front of you if you need it yeah yeah i mean that's that's thanks to home and away because they move so fast it's like muscle memory you just get so used to learning lines yeah i can i can be given a script now and learn it pretty quickly and also too when you read enough scripts you start to recognize writing patterns yeah right and you you start to recognize writing patterns.

Yeah, right. And you can start to anticipate where it's going to go without. Yeah, okay, right. What the line's going to be like. We got company. Have you ever stuffed up a line and they've just gone, that's fine. We'll just run it.

All the fucking time. Okay, right. Close enough. I'm always stuffing up lines. What do you mean as in like have I ad-libbed a new one or just? Or you've just flubbed it. I said the wrong word. I think so.

Like often like they won't even notice. I mean that's what I was saying about you were the lowest rung creatively. You may fucking spend like, you know, weeks and days pouring over this scene and just wanting to nail it and then you fucking flub the last line and the director doesn't even notice. Or it gets like I remember doing a show where i had this big emotional scene and i'm like well this is my oscar clip this is going to be fucking amazing you know and then i saw it go to air and as i'm doing my big emotional breakdown they cut to the

girl listening and her like i'm running and listening and i was like where and then they cut back to me as i'm drying my tears i cried for real cried for real. I was pinching my thigh during that whole scene. That's great. Last question. This doesn't apply to you. Okay. Are all actors like tiny little people? Generally, yes.

The bigger you, if you're like over six foot, you're going to look like a giant on camera. Right, yeah. Because you're like what, 5'11"? I'm 5'11", yeah. I sort of, I'm i'm not i don't look i look i'm like paul ruddish luke wilson you know you know those guys don't look too big or too small they're like normal people yeah yeah but yeah you know i've got friends who are like 6'3

and when they're on camera they look like the incredible Hulk because actresses tend to be quite small right as well you know Ada i think was five... She's like 5'2 or something like that. Oh, shit. All right, yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, I looked at Hugh Jackman standing there. It was awesome. Yeah.

He cast me next to the small people. I've heard the... Hollywood Pete told us this, a friend of ours. Actors a lot of times have tiny little bodies and big heads like George Clooney. He's like a tiny little skinny body, but a big emotive head. Yeah. Gemma has a theory that the most photogenic people have round faces. Right.

Because in terms of angles, like if you've got an angular face, when you turn your head, the light hits it differently and suddenly you're getting weird shapes. But if you've got a round face, nothing happens when you turn your head. You've got quite a round face. Thank you. You'd be good on camera. I think your dog just farted.

Just an egg. Right. That is deadly. Sorry. This room doesn't smell good, also at the end of a podcast generally. face thank you you'd be good on camera I think your dog just farted just an egg right that is sorry this room doesn't smell good also at the end of a podcast generally

no no that's the dog that's definitely the dog where can people find you Charlie though your podcast specifically Tofop if you

like if you've liked my ranting about the acting industry we don't do any of that on our podcast it's more like what you guys it's a couple of

comedy dudes having a comedy conversation that it's a couple of comedy dudes having a comedy conversation that's right a couple of old mates having a comedy conversation yeah you can find us

at toypop.com you can also find us on the planet broadcasting website part of the stable but we have some other shows that aren't part of planet broadcasting

yet that's right if you're into AFL I'm sure you've got lots of AFL fans who listen to the weekly planet. Huge fans. We have an Aussie Rules podcast called Two Guys, One Cup.

Be careful searching that. Will has a podcast called Willosophy, which is kind of like Enough Rope. It's like almost serious, pretty serious. Yeah, it's great. Interesting. He does really good long-form conversations

with people. And then Will's got Fofop, which is essentially Tofop where he gets guest comedians in people are a lot funnier than me sometimes a teacher and a tram driver oh yeah or not the latest one because he's been going crazy with the faux fops he just did montreal so when will when will does comedy festivals suddenly there's like a hunt like we've been doing toe fop since 2010 he's been doing faux fop since 2012 but there's triple the amount of episodes of Fofop because he's always doing festivals and getting comedians on.

It's all good, though. I think Tofop's a good gateway for people, though, because there is, I mean, you guys, you say it in the intro, or John Dix is in the intro, talk about Batman and time travel, things you've been watching in movies and comics. Well, the thing is, when we started Tofop, like, to do a podcast back then, you didn't need a hook. Yeah, right. You didn't need to be about anything. The fact that you were doing a podcast was reason like to do a podcast back then, you didn't need a hook.

Yeah, right. It didn't need to be about anything. The fact that you were doing a podcast was reason enough to do a podcast. Exactly, yeah. And so now I get really nervous when people – I never – I'm terrible at promoting our show. Like when people ask me, oh, you do a podcast, what's it about? I start sweating.

I don't know how to describe it. I don't know how to describe it. And I don't want to say it's a comedy conversation between two old mates. Yeah. But that's pretty much what it is yeah yeah awesome you could solve some murders yeah we could that would work that's hot right now

yeah alright true crime podcast yeah exactly yeah it is Mason do the end of the show oh look you can find us at weekly planet pod on Facebook and Gmail and Twitter and bandcamp I'm at Wikipedia Brown on Twitter I'm at MrSundayMovies I'm at CX Clausen on Twitter and you can find ToeFop at Facebook. And linked below.

Oh, yeah. We've got some teeth. Oh, yeah, yeah. I'll throw it in the link. I'm pointing down. No one can see that. It's in Charlie's crotch. Yes.

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There's some teas on TeePublic. Thanks to the Bruton and Basilisk and Rackham for all our themes. That's about it, I think. That's everything, yeah. Awesome stuff. Next week, something else. We'll do a different thing probably.

Episode 200 is coming up. If people have got suggestions, we've already got something very special lined up. Claire accidentally booked three ads. So we're going to do three ads in our 200th episode. Fantastic. So that's the point where we really sell out. We'll try not to make a habit of it.

But if people have got a suggestion for a particular topic, maybe we'll do an extra long one. Yeah, extra long one. It seems as though there are three ads. So throw them our way and we'll do them all we want to do. Best ads. That's right. Best ads we've done. And and we'll do them all best ads that's right best ads

we've done and we'll replay them it'll be great that's it anyway thanks again Charlie no worries

thank you thanks again Mason thank you thank me thank you thank you Charlie

can you do just cause I'm a fan of the show and I'm here can you do your famous catchphrase

do it James do it Charlie hey who ate all my biscotti? Yay! God damn it, Charlie. He's done it.

Thank you, sir. That's the only reason I came. I hear that. Grab that gem, you guys. We'll see you next week. Bye. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates.

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