The Weekly Planet - 201 The Inhumans (is terrible) & #GOTBros2017

Episode Date: September 4, 2017

This week we talk two TV shows on the opposite sides of the spectrum in terms of quality, The Inhumans and Game of Thrones. Plus news of the Joker origin film, Luke Cage, Justice League, the first loo...k at The Wasp as well as an update on X-men Dark Phoenix. Thanks for listening!Sanspant Melbourne Show: melbournefringe.com.au/event/sanspants-live-podcastsWeekly Planet Comic: tapas.io/episode/809776Visit planetbroadcasting.com for all of the podcast!4:09 Joker origin details7:34 Luke Cage robot arm10:48 Justice League writing credits12:12 First look at The Wasp14:11 X-men Dark Phoenix will probably be terrible18:12 Inhumans Spoiler Review50:06 Game Of Thrones Review1:12:50 What We Reading/What We Gonna Read1:17:17 Letters It’s Time For LettersAmazon affiliate link: https://amzn.to/2oWDZICPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesMr Sunday Movies YouTube Channel: https://goo.gl/lB90W2The Weekly Planet YouTube Channel: https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHFind our T-Shirts here: https://goo.gl/q6gE9C Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:31 Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of The Weekly Planet, official podcast of comicbookmovie.com, where we talk movies, comics, TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday, with me is always my co-host, Nick Mason. I'm here. He is a here. How are you feeling? We just got out of Inhumans. We're feeling fresh.
Starting point is 00:00:45 We're not feeling fresh. I feel bad. I ate a banana. I thought it would make me feel better, but I don't feel better. Yeah. Anyway, we'll get to it, won't we? Oh, yeah, sure. You would have thought the potassium would perk you right up. I thought it would.
Starting point is 00:00:56 Yeah. Have you taken my advice and filled all your bananas with cocaine? I have, yes. Because, you know, you go to like a fair or something and then you get a banana and they they dip it in chocolate and like crush nuts or something like that dip it in chocolate dip it in cocaine that's right that's what i've always said uh so we're actually recording this on the friday normally record on the sunday because i'm leaving for the us tomorrow which was two days ago what by the time this goes still here it's magic don't don't ask how it works the The internet is a wonderful place.
Starting point is 00:01:25 And terrible. There's a lot of terrible things. Have you noticed? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So some of this news, we might have missed some major news. Apologies if that's the case.
Starting point is 00:01:35 There might be some sort of kerfuffle. And then the news we report turns out to be not the case. Yeah, that's right. Like with all the Batman news last week. Yeah. Ben Affleck is in or out, you know, wherever they're at with that. Exactly. This first bit of news, though, it's from Brendan Schreier.
Starting point is 00:01:48 I don't know how to say this. He's a former MMA fighter. He was on the Joe Rogan podcast. They're always hanging out together and they're talking about fights. They're always like, who could kick who in the head the hardest? You know? Probably a horse. I guess a good horse.
Starting point is 00:02:00 Like I think if, you know, these MMA guys are real tough. I'll grant you. And I certainly wouldn't want to face any of them in the octagon. But if you were like, okay, we're going to do Kixie Wixie, the game where you alternate kicking each other in the head and you faced any of them up against the horse. Is that a game you made up just now? Kixie Wixie.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Kixie Wixie, yeah. But anyway, I reckon the horse would win. So you would rather fight a MMA fighter than the back end of a horse. Yes. Yeah, fair enough. There's a lot. I've seen like... You can tap out.
Starting point is 00:02:30 If you're fighting an MMA guy, you can tap out. Can't tap out being kicked in the head with a horse. Horse doesn't get it. He thinks you're counting. That's right, exactly. One, two. Yeah, brutal. My mum had a cousin who was blind and got kicked in the head by a horse and killed.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Was she blind first? No, because she didn't go blind and then die. She wasn't like, I'm blind and then fall over dead. Right. That might have been second cousin. I don't remember. But that was the order of things. Okay, sure.
Starting point is 00:02:57 Anyway, stay away from horses. Don't play Kixie Wixie with a horse. Anyway, what was the news? We didn't get to the actual news well this guy brendan yes uh s-c-h-a-u-b he's very famous i should i didn't listen to any of the letters you said it doesn't matter people again i didn't i didn't listen but whoever is listening now we'll get it he said that my boy todd feldman put together uh this thing with todd phillips the hangover guy the hangover guy. The hangover guy.
Starting point is 00:03:27 The new Joker origin film. You know, the one that's like set in the 80s and it's gritty and it's real. It could be Scorsese. Yeah, and it's not Jared Leto and it's a different whatever. He said, it's like a dark Joker. As a kid, he had a permanent smile and everyone made fun of him.
Starting point is 00:03:41 It's like on the streets of Brooklyn. It's super dark and real. Sounds real. So a kid is born with a smile. A permanent smile. You'd think he'd spread cheer wherever he went. Yeah. Does that sound like a good origin?
Starting point is 00:03:57 Did he get kicked in the face by a horse? What happened here? He got kicked in the face by a horse. Yeah. What do you think of that as an origin? A person was just born with a smile i guess that's fine i mean is it i mean if it's dark and real do you know anybody who's born with a smile and just has a i was born with a smile shut up oh no it's gone i had a permanent smile
Starting point is 00:04:20 until just that moment now it's gone i don't know i mean that that feels that feels kind of like until just that moment. Now it's gone. I don't know. I mean, that feels kind of like... Like a Dick Tracy... Yeah, or like, it does feel like a Scorsese, Joe Pesci, you know, people make assumptions about him
Starting point is 00:04:33 and he gets real mad and he becomes a psychopath, you know. Okay, fair, yeah. What am I funny like a clown kind of thing. Yeah, right. Okay, fair point. And then he goes, man, I don't necessarily think that would be good.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Yeah. But I think that's Scorsese all over, I feel. Okay, fair enough. Also, I think if you went to Scorsese and said, give us an origin for the Joker, he wouldn't go, oh, he fell into a vat of toxic waste or this or that. I think he'd just be like- Kicked in the mouth by a horse.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Kicked in the mouth by a horse, exactly, yeah. Forceps. Brooklyn. As he was being born. That's probably it as well, yeah. His dad's a boxer probably. Yeah, probably, yeah. Forceps. Brooklyn. As he was being born. That's probably it as well, yeah. His dad's a boxer probably. Yeah, probably, yeah. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:05:08 Mean streets, you know. Mean streets. Can't escape them. Speaking of the streets, Mason. The British rap of the streets. Yeah, that's correct. Original pirate material. The Netflix Marvel series, they're all on the streets, aren't they?
Starting point is 00:05:20 They are on the streets. You can't get away from them. They're in dimly lit alleys and hallways. So many hallways. In hindsight, much better than other Marvel TV shows in terms of production value and lighting and acting and casting and special effects. Relative intelligence of the characters.
Starting point is 00:05:36 Yes, that's right. For the most part. Yeah, yeah. Longer but still feel shorter comparatively to some. I'm on board with the good guys being the good guys right yes absolutely okay good uh we saw misty i'm just saying because we saw the first image of misty knight from uh the next series of iron iron fist she's got the bionic arm what do you think looks fine it doesn't it it's it's gritty and real isn't it it's gritty and real yeah it's got the it's got
Starting point is 00:06:01 a little plug into her upper arm it's yeah i don't know i i expected of course it's just like this jacket off she's ripped the sleeve off her denim jacket like it's not a it's not a vest yeah she's got a she's wearing a denim jacket and the arm with the her real arm has a sleeve on it and a bionic arm does not have a sleeve on it maybe that's the jacket she went into hospital with oh yeah i don't i don't know but maybe well that's the thing maybe it does cool stuff right yeah fingers crossed it does cool stuff because otherwise it might spin yeah i was like whisk whisk i was hoping for more of kind of a you know like a terminator kind of hand but it's clearly like a skywalker hand a skywalker hand yeah like a like a glove like it just looks like a oh no i was hoping for an arm like this.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Yeah. More high-tech. Right, yeah. Like, because in the comic books she has, you know, it's an arm and it's made of Antarctic vibranium and diamonds or something. It's like some sort of super weird alloy. Cool. And it can, you know, touch a wall and dissolve it kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:07:01 Like it's, you know, she can... But, you know... Can she mix a drink? Probably with a whisk attachment, sure. Very good. But, like, and in the comics it's like a Stark Industries. you know she can but you know can she mix a drink probably with a whisk attachment sure very good but like and and that's in the comics it's like a stark industries yes bionic arms on this it's a it's a it's ran so who knows oh i don't know yeah who's to say off-brand maybe it isn't though like maybe he just knows a guy in some i bet it's oh we know a guy in some tech yeah yeah startup who built it but anyway i'm glad we're getting it so i don't know you know who I bet it's, oh, we know a guy in some tech startup who built it. Anyway, I'm glad we're getting it.
Starting point is 00:07:26 I don't know. Who knows until it's in motion. But again, I would have also hoped... I do kind of wish that they'd done this thing where they constantly tease she's going to lose her arm in every season she's in. But in the nick of time, she just... Because in Iron Fist, she nearly loses it.
Starting point is 00:07:41 She nearly loses it. She gets shot in the arm or something. She gets shot in the arm and she loses all the... Claire has to clamp off all the blood vessels or whatever. She's like, you might lose your arm. And then in this, she nearly loses it again. And then she does lose it. And then she fully loses it. Would have been great.
Starting point is 00:07:55 Yeah. She's always, again, putting her hand... Like Crispin Glover in Hot Tub Time Machine, where he's like juggling the chainsaw. Yeah, exactly. That's right. Yeah. Oh, that's fantastic.
Starting point is 00:08:04 She always has to get a piece of evidence on a rapidly whirling fan above her head. Who keeps putting this up here? Yeah. So we'll see. They're all happening at the moment. I think they're filming Jessica Jones. The Punisher, I think, is probably done and now Iron Fist Season 2. I didn't even know it was filming.
Starting point is 00:08:22 So there you go. There you go. Okay. now Iron Fist Season 2. I didn't even know I was filming. So there you go. There you go. Okay, so according to a recent press release, but not so recent for the people listening to this because of time dilation and whatnot. Sure, yeah. Justice League boasts a story by Chris Terrio. Don't get so bold, Justice League.
Starting point is 00:08:41 Maybe he's the boasting until you've made a good movie. Justice League, anyway. Story by Chris Terrio and Zack Snyder. Screenplay by Chris Terrio and Joss Whedon, which means he's getting credited. So screenplay, I guess that means he's made some significant changes. Or he hasn't. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:57 You know, so who knows? Do you think they'll all be quipping away? They'll be quipping away, won't they? There'll be some quipping, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Who's this other guy? Chris Terrio. He wrote parts of Batman v and, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Who's this other guy? Chris Terrio. He wrote parts of Batman v Superman.
Starting point is 00:09:07 Okay. Yeah, and other things. I can look it up if you want. If you could. I don't want to. Because that's not really a credit so much, is it? Well, it's a... I mean, technically it's a credit,
Starting point is 00:09:17 but you're saying it's not a credit as in that's not a credit to the work that you do? Is that what you mean? That's what I'm saying, yeah. Okay, gotcha. Good. He did Argo. There you go. He did he did heights i liked argo and that makes sense yeah why affleck no all right they're not not following okay then sorry mate don't even worry about it
Starting point is 00:09:36 he also wrote richard ii and book of kings which is a short film in 2002, one of your favourites. No. No? No. Heights. You know that one? No. Okay, good. Another news? Yeah, another news, please.
Starting point is 00:09:53 More news, please. We got our first look at Evangeline Lilly in the wasp outfit. Yeah, that's right. It looks more... It's muted. Yeah. I was hoping for the 60s one, but hey, whatever. Yeah. I mean, so at the end of Ant-Man, we got, hey, this is for you.
Starting point is 00:10:07 And he opens the cabinet and there's the wasp suit. Yeah. And it's a lot more colourful. The colours are all still there. Yeah. But they've definitely muted it out. Do you think it's a different suit? I think it's the same suit.
Starting point is 00:10:18 Because that one wasn't even completed. It didn't have, like, arms and stuff. I thought that that was the premise. Because, like, when I think of the Wasp in the 60s... Oh, we did see it, actually, didn't we? Yeah, we saw it. We saw the actual one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:29 Yeah. I mean, on somebody. We saw Janet Van Dyne. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I don't know. I thought initially it wasn't going to have sleeves. But here we go. Sleeves up.
Starting point is 00:10:38 Sleeves up. Didn't see the wings, though. No. It might be a case... I mean, in the post-credits sequence in Ant-Man, we see it does have wings. Yeah. But a lot of the time in the comic books,
Starting point is 00:10:47 it only has wings when she shrinks down. So she can only fly when she's small. Because they're teeny tiny little wings. Teeny tiny little wings. But who knows? That makes sense. Who knows, man? We do see the wings in that flashback, though.
Starting point is 00:10:59 That's true, we do. Why does Ant-Man not have wings? Good question. Because he's like, no, I'm Ant-Man. Ants don't have wings. Some ants do have wings. Not the point. Maybe he's like, no, I'm Ant-Man. Ants don't have wings. Some ants do have wings. Not the point. Maybe he thinks they're effeminate.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Yeah, maybe. He's from a different time. Yeah, well, he is, isn't he? And current day Ant-Man's like, can I have wings? And he's like, no. No. Man wouldn't have wings. No.
Starting point is 00:11:19 So, yeah, that's all. Wings would really help. No. That's all. How did he? How was he going to get off the bomb? How did he get off the bomb? Good question.
Starting point is 00:11:27 I mean, he can fall from great heights, can't he? Because he's kind of, he's more durable. So I guess he just fell into the water. Yeah. Maybe he had a parachute. He probably had a parachute. Or he called an ant. Called an ant, a flying ant.
Starting point is 00:11:40 He's always calling an ant. Yeah, that's true, yeah. Come get me, I'm fucked. There's a lot of that you know absolutely good excellent last bit of news yes
Starting point is 00:11:49 we'll check back in at the end Mason because you never know do you that's true I'll probably forget yeah that's true yeah X-Men Dark
Starting point is 00:11:56 Phoenix you're looking forward to that nah it's the one directed by Simon Kinberg who's produced all the X-Men films terrific
Starting point is 00:12:03 bad ones but this is the first one and written some and Fantastic Four but this is the first one that he's directing this is his chance to to prove himself as a director this is his chance to be like this is how an x-men movie is meant to be yeah great all right i'll give him one chance okay here we go i'm not happy about it i don't want to see it i don't want to trek out yeah it's the one i least want to see out of like deadpool new mutants and this uh he said because it's dark phoenix obviously there's there's uh elements of space and fire alien birds but he said uh we've got to find a way to ground it so it's not too intergalactic
Starting point is 00:12:40 uh he wanted to be uh remain human and emotional now make it intergalactic idiot yeah what are you doing we've seen the school the the x-men film franchise in its entirety has been everybody waiting for it to go intergalactic yes the entire premise like if the first one came out and people like oh this is not bad but maybe put them in the yellow suits and then the next one they're like oh it's a little bit it's it's better maybe put them in the yellow suits. And then the next one they're like, oh, it's a little bit, it's better. Maybe put them, make more comic book stuff, put them in the yellow suits maybe. And then they went, Kelsey Grammar.
Starting point is 00:13:12 And we went, oh, yeah, that's good. Yeah, we like, but it's not what we, it's good casting. Yeah, and then people are like, okay, cool, Sentinels, great, let's do that. Make it intergalactic, you idiots. Yeah. Come on. Yeah, X-Men in space. I'm in the process of making a video. and we'll make it into Galactic Idiots. Yeah. Come on. Yeah. X-Men in space.
Starting point is 00:13:28 I'm in the process of making a video. It'll be out by now where I talk about this franchise in particular. All this franchise does, like the boring ones, is they're at the school and then they go to a mutant facility that's closed down or recently been started up
Starting point is 00:13:42 and then they run through a forest. And that's every all the bland x-men movies that's true yeah and even the good ones do a lot of that like wolverine logan was that yeah so hey it's all the little details go to space go to a mall yeah they did they did go to a mall didn't they that was fun yeah they like to have fun anyway yeah what do you it just seems like a good opportunity to go to space because it's the space story. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:14:10 How many X-Men movies are there right now? 57. 57. Well, I'm done with them. I'm just... No, but I'm done with the current format of them. Yes, I agree. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:14:20 Shake it up a little. But we're getting Deadpool 2, which shakes it up in a big way. It flips the genre on its head because we have to look at his balls. It's meta. He's winking at the camera. Yep, it's funny. And we're getting New Mutants, which is a horror X-Men film. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:14:35 Give us a space one. Yeah. Give us a bloody space one. Speaking of Deadpool, have you seen the trailers for The Hitman's Bodyguard? It's out now, I think. Yeah, I've seen it. It looks pretty good, but that's the worst title I've ever heard. What would you rather call it?
Starting point is 00:14:46 Anything else. Hitman's Best Friend. Best Friends. Best Friends. On a mission, not an adventure. Yes. Okay, good. Adventure Friends.
Starting point is 00:14:53 Okay, you need to think of a better name then. Okay. Come on, let's go. By the end of the episode, I'll have a better name. It's a play on- I'll forget. It's a play on the bodyguard. That's like the-
Starting point is 00:15:01 No, it's not. Have you seen the posters where one's holding the other one? It's not a play on absolutely is because one has to look after the other one but the other one doesn't need looking after like should have called it the bodyguard too but it's too question mark yes gotcha yeah very good yeah yeah so no i've heard it's i've heard it's got some good like it's not a great film but it's a good kind of throwback action movie with some good quips. So there you go. I think that's all the news, Mason, for now.
Starting point is 00:15:30 But let's put a pin in that and not come back to it. You cool with that? Yes. Good. But bear in mind, we could pull out the pin at any moment. And kill us all. All our listeners being held hostage. Then we could pull the pin and just start talking about the news.
Starting point is 00:15:50 We want a million dollars do you want a helicopter do you want to talk about in humans or game of thrones talk about in humans yeah okay because we just saw in humans do we want to go full spoilers yeah okay but we should say up front if you don't want to know anything it's really bad and don't see it don't pay for it don't go out of your way maybe watch it on tv if you're curious yeah look look i didn't hate every second no but was it worth driving half an hour out of our way and paying 30 it was closer to 50 minutes for me just so it's true yeah uh to see this it was not worth that no we went to high point High Point Cinema and I said more like low point. Yeah, you did. And I said, I can't wait to say that on the podcast.
Starting point is 00:16:28 And you did. And you said, I'll laugh raucously. I didn't say that. It was implied. I said, I'll give it what it deserves. Okay. So full spoilers. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:40 Sorry if, yeah, you can skip ahead. Oh, there's time codes below for everything anyway. So if you really don't want to know. Yep. But yeah, you don skip ahead. Oh, there's time codes below for everything anyway. So if you really don't want to know. Yep. But yeah, you don't. This isn't integral to anything. It's very true. Either in the MCU or in your life.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Yeah. If you're a fan of the characters, you probably won't like it. Yeah, that's a good point, isn't it? Anyway, Mason, what did you think the story was? The Inhumans live on the moon. Yep. Some are happy, some are some are unhappy yep there's a coup yes there is pretty good a pigeon yeah exactly but at the there's the series opens in hawaii yep the the entirety of the two episodes are set in hawaii and the moon and the moon hawaii in the moon yeah they're sister cities hawaii in the moon but opens in hawaii
Starting point is 00:17:25 there's a woman running through a forest in hawaii she gets pursued by some some special forces guys yep and then bloody she's rescued by triton yes she is green-skinned triton are you familiar with that character who's and then she's shot by special forces and he immediately leaves her to die. He says, don't worry, you're safe. And then they're shot at. And then he's like, oh no, run. And then they both get shot. Yeah, it's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:17:54 Though they're probably not dead. Oh, she's dead. Is she? Didn't they capture her? Because they were like, don't worry about it, get the other guy. No, she's definitely dead. She was face down in mud. She's definitely dead.
Starting point is 00:18:04 And he maybe escapes or he jumps off a really poor CGI waterfall. That's true. Oh, wait, I forgot. It opens with, it doesn't open with that. It opens with a long old school Marvel title sequence. Except there's not, like if you imagine like the old Spider-Man title sequences where everything's flying through DNA and there's all sorts of webs and there's we talked about that the other weeks and be like thank god they stopped doing that but it's back for this except there's
Starting point is 00:18:33 imagine doing like a student version it's flat shapes yeah that i don't recognize spinning and flipping i was sort of i think it was meant to be like the Inhumans, like uniforms and their hair and their tattoos and et cetera. That's what I assumed, but I only recognized a couple of them, yeah. Boy, and then the titles come up and you went, phew. Yeah, but then after that, initially I went, I felt it had some promise because the initial action sequence takes place in this forest and there's rain coming down.
Starting point is 00:19:04 There's IMAX shooting people's feet and there's water and mud splashing up. Mud splashing. And I'm like, oh, I see. They've really cranked up the IMAX for this. They're really IMAXing this. But then it became a very generic action sequence and it was not exciting. No. So, yeah, because Triton jumps off a waterfall.
Starting point is 00:19:21 But it looks like what he jumps off is completely disconnected from where he was. Yeah. Yeah, it's really poor compositing and it's just horrible. It's a weird society on the moon, isn't it? Yeah, so we cut to the moon where the Attal and Royal family realise that Triton's been killed. Everyone lives under a dome that has a picture of the sky on it. Yeah. And they've gone there because they want to be safe from the humans.
Starting point is 00:19:47 I like that reveal. Like, I knew it was coming. Yeah, yeah. But the fact that we see a nice, like, blue sky, peaceful society, and then we pull back to, you know, through a city that looks kind of okay. They spent a lot of money on that city because they kept showing it. Yeah, totally right. And then it pulls out.
Starting point is 00:20:03 It's like under a cloaking device dome. It looks like a Holocaust museum. And I probably should cut that out. No, let it be. But I just mean it's very stark and cold and just, yeah. Again, it's a world where you're like, and I say this about a lot of fantasy universes, like Krypton or what have you.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Yeah. What do people do? Yeah, right. Like later we see Krystal like reading a book and listening to music, but nobody else seems to have those. No. It's a very rigid caste society where you have the royal family. Yes.
Starting point is 00:20:37 And then you have everybody else who lives and works in the mines. Right. Yeah, yeah. They're mining, I assume, for Terrigen Krystals. I think that's the case. So, yeah, I guess because what happens is when it's your your birthday when you're 16 or ish uh you you go into a a phone box and they they put a crystal in and it turns into a gas and you get powers and if you get wings you're great yep if you get something considered shit you have to mine
Starting point is 00:21:03 yeah you live under the earth you're a pariah again like i guess that's true yeah which makes me think oh no this is a bad society and the king sucks here yeah well that's the i i feel that that was the number let's keep talking i'm let the dog i feel that was the number one takeaway i got from this that we it's it's you know it's movie length and we should we should feel you know and it's the first two episodes of a series so presumably this will evolve but given that we only had this hour and a half or whatever it was
Starting point is 00:21:32 I am not on the side of the royal family here. No. The entire two episodes is about a coup that is brought about by Black Bolt's brother Maximus the Mad Who's kind of Loki-lite Yeah he's Loki-lite but he's that is brought about by Black Bolt's brother, Maximus the Mad. Who's kind of Loki-lite.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Yeah, he's Loki-lite, but when he went in the phone box and drank in the mist, he didn't get any powers. He turned human, maybe? He turned human, he got even less powers than I guess regular Inhumans have. I guess they're all slightly more durable and strong, maybe. Not clear. It's unclear.
Starting point is 00:22:03 But anyway, he's leading this coup, this revolution. Yeah. And I'm 100% on his side. Yeah. Like, he seems like not a nice guy. He's like, can we get off the moon and go back to Earth? Also, you could. You know how much weird shit there is on Earth?
Starting point is 00:22:18 Yeah. It would be absolutely fine. You could turn up there and people go, oh, no, this stuff exists. Like, you're not a dangerous green monster. Exactly, yeah. Like, smashing up a city. So you've got weird feet. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:22:29 That's fine, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. But, like, he's like, let's get everybody out of the mines. Yeah. I mean, all they're doing. Again, it's unclear, but clearly they're just mining for the Terrigen crystals. So here's what you do, right?
Starting point is 00:22:43 You stop mining for the Terrigen crystals. So here's what you do, right? You stop mining for the Terrigen crystals. You stop going into the phone booth and getting weird powers. And then as indistinguishable humanoids, you go to Earth and they go, what's you guys' deal? And you're like, nothing, we're just regular humans. And they go, cool. That's great. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:01 Welcome. Welcome. And also, at the same time, Black Bolt has a plan because he's sending agents down to Earth because there's Inhumans on Earth and because Terrigen Mists got loose, I guess, in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. In Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., yeah. And he's like, we've got to rescue these Inhumans and bring them back to the moon. Where they can work in the mines. Where they can work in the mines, exactly.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Unless they've got wings, in which case... Like, they don't even fully test a person's powers before they put them in the mines. Yeah. There's a guy who can clearly see the future And they just go It looked like he had a stroke So into the mines He didn't get shooting fire out of his hands
Starting point is 00:23:34 Like there's a guy who has Who has hooves for feet Yeah, gorgon And he's a dummy also Which we'll get to But there's a guy down the mines Who has really good, like, strong hands for digging.
Starting point is 00:23:47 He's got, like, big mole hands and he can dig. That seems good too. That seems better than hooves for feet. But he can't hold a crystal goblet with them, can he? No, I guess he can't, yeah. And that's the thing, they're living. They've got wine and amazing food and, like, that's society, we're in a bit of trouble.
Starting point is 00:24:01 And they're just eating lobster or moon lobster or whatever. Lobster. Yeah, while people are digging in the mines. Yeah. Oh, it's insane. Also, expand your territory. Just make it slightly bigger. Where'd the technology come from?
Starting point is 00:24:16 Good question. I think it's all made from moon rocks, and you're on the moon. If this story were told from a different perspective, it would be a story about the unequal distribution of wealth and the top one percent who won't give it up and there's just people who are trying to live but it isn't it's told from the perspective of the royal family and apparently they're the victims here and the other thing is black bolt hilariously killed his parents yeah and somehow well he was in prison for a bit, they just went, yeah, you're the king.
Starting point is 00:24:46 Yeah. So he was in an argument and he uttered a word and he splattered them against the wall. Yeah, it's very funny. It's very funny. It's not supposed to be funny. It looks like if Inhumans was successful and it lasted a season
Starting point is 00:25:01 and so Mad TV had to do an Inhumans sketch. In this scenario, Mad TV is still around also. But anyway, Mad TV does a sketch where he accidentally kills his parents. That's the level of comedy in this scene. And special effects. Like, not that funny. Yeah. And not that good special effects.
Starting point is 00:25:17 But okay for Mad TV. That's right. Exactly. Don't show it. You see their dusty silhouettes on the wall after he's accidentally killed them. And he goes, why? And then they die. Don't show it. You see their dusty silhouettes on the wall after he's accidentally killed them. And he goes, why? And then they die. Don't show it.
Starting point is 00:25:29 No. Just have him open it. Make it silent. And he opens his mouth to say, it doesn't matter what it is. And then he looks shocked. He looks horrified. And then we see the aftermath or whatever.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Okay. The reason you can't do that is because most people on this are terrible at acting. I guess that's true. Like the younger cast in particular, some real clunky lines. Like this young Medusa says a line. You see young Medusa? She says, I'm Medusa.
Starting point is 00:25:55 Like it's real clunky. Does she say it before she gets her hair powers? I guess she does. Yeah, I guess so. So she was always just called Medusa. Yeah, that's weird, isn't it? It's comics, man. I guess she does. Yeah, I guess so. So she was always just called Medusa. Yeah, that's weird, isn't it? It's comics, man. I shouldn't complain.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Okay, so the guy who has hooves. Gorgon. Gorgon. Get it right. Gorgon. Look, we're going to be watching this show for 10 years, so if you can get the names right early, that would help. I'm out.
Starting point is 00:26:19 We're going to do an annual recap of Inhumans the series, and you're going to have to remember all the names i'm not doing the heavy lifting here i understand if you have to do the heavy lifting for the game of thrones recaps i'm gonna you're gonna i'm not gonna do the heavy i don't know there'll be heavy lifting though is what you're saying that's what i'm saying yeah uh so he has hooves and he's strong because he can like kick the ground and he's got like some sort of tracking ability i think yeah like a horse like a horse so he he's angry because triton who they sent down to earth who they presumed was dead yes uh they send gorgon after him to to find triton and when he gets down there he's just in regular boots like his feet are in regular regular and and there's no way that hooves could fit in that
Starting point is 00:27:05 whatever it's fine i can understand you can't run on because he's on little hooves stilts yes he is yeah so it's a practice he's on like if you can imagine high heels that don't have any heel yeah it's not a terrible no look i mean you couldn't do the full if you if you did the full back bended leg that would be really expensive yeah it'd be like they didn't narnia or whatever. Yeah, it would be. It would be expensive. So he just spends the rest of the 70 minutes that's left.
Starting point is 00:27:31 He uses his incredible tracking abilities. What he does is he walks to the shoreline of the beach in Hawaii. It's filmed in Hawaii. They get tax credits. And he yells, Triton! And then it cuts away for 20 minutes. Yeah. And it cuts back and he's still like try to like yelling into the ocean yeah and then he walks into the ocean yep
Starting point is 00:27:51 oh by the way he also prior to this he complained to black bolt that he wasn't set because it's sent because he's like i should have been the one sent to earth no yeah you're a dummy so because he walked into the ocean and nearly drowned. Because he can't swim. And he saved my local- Which is weird because he's part animal. Yeah. And all animals have an inherent ability to swim. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:28:11 I guess he's more human than he thought. I guess he's more human than he thought. And so he saved my local surfers. Yeah. Who just buy everything that he's saying. And then he turns on his camera. Oh, and while this is happening, there's the coup that happens back on the moon. My favorite part about that.
Starting point is 00:28:24 First of all, that the surfers don't be like get out of our territory because surfers are like that they'll be like what are you doing get out of our surf you prick kind of thing but they rescue him which is nice they bring him up to the sand and then what i like about it is there's no references to other weirdness they just go oh you must be one of those inhumans we hear about that's exactly what they say yeah not like hey you're like thor or whatever it's none of that it's just you're one of those inhumans one of those inhumans everybody's talking about hashtag inhumans tv that's what they're saying every magazine black bolt um gets tell okay so black agar baltagon use his full name they don't they don't say his full name
Starting point is 00:29:05 what they don't say his full name but also medusa medusa his wife refers to him as black bolt all the time yes weird right weird no pet name but if the the problem like i guess with this series for me is it all appears to have been like just thrown together and there's like it it just it's just started existing now right yeah like if this were real if these were real characters with real motivations and real relationships they'd have nicknames they'd have a way of communicating with each other if one of them can't speak yes which we'll get to at some point at some some point. But yeah, so he... So the teleporting dog, which actually looks all right for TV. By the way, all this looks horrible on IMAX. It's not.
Starting point is 00:29:50 And we didn't even see it at the biggest IMAX. We saw it at IMAX Junior. Yeah. It's not what it's called. No, but it was... It's not... It was shot for IMAX, but it's not lit for IMAX. The special effects aren't for IMAX.
Starting point is 00:30:03 The sets aren't for IMAX. You can see, like, when they'll open a thing, you can see it's just got a rickety little hinge on it. Stuff like that you can pick up on. So the dog saves everybody and brings them all to Earth, but Hawaii. But it's all, they're slightly apart, so they spend the rest of the episode
Starting point is 00:30:20 not coming back together. That's right, yeah. And talking to each other on watches. So she calls, Medusa gets, which we'll get to, goes down to Earth and calls episode not coming back together that's right and talking to each other on watches so she called medusa gets which we'll get to yeah goes down to earth and calls black bolts oh they've got like communicator yeah things and he can't talk back so she's just talking and he's also they're out loud so they're not like subtle so she's sitting on a bus having like you know and people like it's just blaring on like it's on speakerphone. But there's no texting part of his device. So he has to hold it to his heart so she can hear his heartbeat.
Starting point is 00:30:51 So when they call him on the moon, does he just have to go and do sign language in person? Which is weird because, I mean, the whole thing's weird. But later on in the episode Another character Takes off her communicator And flips it open And it's got like a display Like an iPhone style display on it Which means There's literally no reason
Starting point is 00:31:13 That it couldn't have Like a texting thing Or a FaceTime Yeah yeah We've got FaceTime We've got FaceTime And they're way ahead of us Technologically
Starting point is 00:31:20 They have a guy Whose head is a projector That's true They do have that, yeah. Literally. And he projects the opening scene. And they tried to cut around it, but it's just... It's the footage they shot.
Starting point is 00:31:34 It's just the footage they've shot. It's like they don't do any... They cut away whenever there's a literal angle change. So it's not that abrupt. But it's just the bit from what we saw earlier why is so so that guy's valuable i guess because he can see things and project yeah yeah okay i get they probably send him down the mines later because he projects movies on on a wall or something yeah absolutely what else are we up to uh so black bolt uh because he because
Starting point is 00:32:03 he causes a bit of a ruckus in the streets because he turns up in an x-man style black leather suit yep and then he sees like people wearing regular business suits or casual clothing and he's like i'm gonna get me some clothes sure he does a lot of emoting with his face and that guy is a good actor but you don't get a sense of what he's he just seems perplexed or bemused i Yeah, right? Yeah, or confused. Yeah, it's confused or bemused. It's somewhere in there. But it also doesn't seem like he has an ultimate plan in it.
Starting point is 00:32:34 It's not like he goes, okay, what I need to do is get arrested and then I'll go to the police station and then I'll use their computers and I'll figure something out. He's just going with the flow and he just ends up arrested and he's just bemused but he gets arrested because he goes into a clothing store she she assumes that he can't speak english even though he nods when she asks him a question yeah right so they put in a cat what's a linen suit puts him in and put him in a nice blue linen suit, yes. And then he just walks out, breaks a guy's arm on the way out. Yep.
Starting point is 00:33:08 And then- They call the police. They call the police. They said like five units. And they just hit him mercilessly. Oh, they really belt him. Yeah. But here's the thing, like, but it's weird because-
Starting point is 00:33:19 How'd he get out of the cuffs? I don't know. But it speaks to how dumb he is as a character. Because he's the lead. Like, clearly, up on the moon, he's the king and he gets whatever he wants. Dog's back. Hang on. Keep talking.
Starting point is 00:33:34 He gets whatever he wants. But surely, as a ruler and a diplomat and a strategist and whatever, he would go, he would be, and he knows what earth is he'd go okay well they have currency and they have trade and they have whatever so he could look at it they're always looking at it they're always looking at a picture of it and going so he'd go like okay well humans trade money for for items yeah that's right so either he is so dumb that he thinks he can just do this and walk away and there'll be literally no consequences. Or he is so arrogant that he thinks that as a member of the royal family, he can just take whatever he wants and no one can stop him.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Yeah. And I genuinely don't know which one it is. Exactly. Because he can't talk. He can't talk. Exactly. Also, he steals the suit to evade the cops or stay incognito. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:25 And he immediately gets arrested. Yeah. Like straight away. Yeah, yeah. Like if he didn't steal it, he wouldn't have got arrested. That's true. It would just have been a guy in a leather suit. Or he could have just taken...
Starting point is 00:34:35 People wear leather jackets. Yeah, that's fine. He could have just unzipped it and he would have looked just like a cool rock and roll dude. Exactly. Because that's what he does look like. He looks like a cool rock and roll dude, doesn't he? Yes, he does. Good lord.
Starting point is 00:34:45 Anyway, it's real dumb. Like if he'd come out of that alley and just looked at a guy in a leather jacket, he would have been like, oh yeah, it seems fine. Yeah, this is fine. But that's the thing. Like, just do it Kyle Reese style. Go into a shop that's closed or something or just put it on when nobody's looking and then sneak out.
Starting point is 00:34:59 Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Oh my god. What a dummy. What a dummy. Speaking of dummies, here's another character who's a dummy. The guy with the next powers? Yeah, Karn dummy. What a dummy. Speaking of dummies, here's another character who's a dummy. The guy with the next powers? Yeah, Karnak.
Starting point is 00:35:06 Yeah. So we have one of the other characters who's teleported down to Hawaii. Yeah. He's teleported to like the top of a mountain. Yes. Or not even a mountain, a hill. Yeah. And Karnak's ability, if you don't know Karnak, in the comic books, his ability primarily
Starting point is 00:35:22 is he can see weak points. Oh, is that what it is yeah so it seemed to me like he had nicholas cage's powers from next right you can see multiple yeah i think maybe that's in the comic books it's it's weak points but i think in this it's more that right you can see and it's got dr strange style symbols glyphs and things yeah like he can in this it seems he can see possible futures yeah like that's the way he he knew it. He's more like there's a character of DC image called the Midnighter and he can see all potential future strategies and he picks the optimal one.
Starting point is 00:35:53 Right, yeah. So there's a fight sequence where you see him fight some dudes, then he gets shot and he goes, that didn't work and then he does a different thing and he wins. There's a bit where he harasses a waitress. Yeah, he gives a nice smile to the waitress and a waitress yeah he's like the way he gives the like a like a nice smile to the waitress and the waitress is like oh hey what's up you know clearly there's something you need to like he's like and two and a half days i'm gonna hate you
Starting point is 00:36:13 because of all these things and he says and i'll want to kill you yeah those are his exact words not likable characters so back on earth when he gets teleported to Earth, he says out loud, I need to find my king and attempts to scurry down a mountain. In doing so, he just falls off. And again, whichever power set he has, if he can see weak points, because the idea in the comic books, he can see a weak point. So he's fighting Iron Man and Iron Man has the indestructible suit of armor. He just finds the one crack in it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:48 The one like tiny seam that's vulnerable and he punches it. Yeah. And the whole suit falls to pieces or whatever. If that's his power, surely he could see like... That on a mountain. Like on a mountain. He could see like some soil that's about to crumble off or whatever. Or if he can see the future, he could see that he's about to step on a thing that's about to fall apart. But in either case, he doesn't.
Starting point is 00:37:07 He just puts his foot wrong and the whole thing collapses and he tumbles down a hill and he hits his head. He hits his head real hard. But then when he wakes up shortly thereafter, then he's like, I need to find my king. No, find a king. And his powers then suddenly activate and he goes, east? That's right. He looks at the sun and he goes, east? North suddenly activate and he goes east he looks at the sun and
Starting point is 00:37:26 he goes east north south okay here we go and then you see like a little a little golden pathway and he walks down the hill you why didn't you use it earlier good question does it only work after a blow to the head well the reason they wanted to do that is because he ends up circling back to where he was which means his powers aren't working he's got a head so but he could have got a head injury because any other reason the way literally any other reason like maybe when he's when he's back fighting on the moon there isn't an optimal outcome it's that doesn't end with him getting he always gets hit in the head yeah well that's the best case scenario is yeah i get i get hit in the back of the head and then I teleport to Earth. Yeah. Boy.
Starting point is 00:38:07 Fell down a hill. Just fell down a hill. Fell down a hill in complete reversal of his power set. Yes. Medusa gets her head shaved. Which is how we want, look, I was like, how are they going to, everybody hates the wig. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:21 What are they going to do? It looks better in CGI than it does as a wig. That's true, it does. Yeah. You're wig. Yeah. What are they going to do? It looks better in CGI than it does as a wig. That's true. It does. Yeah. Right. Yeah. It's a very weird looking wig.
Starting point is 00:38:30 And she looks better with a shaved head. A hundred percent. Yeah. So before she is teleported to Earth by the teleporting dog, Maximus is like, I'm going to kill everybody. And first of all, I'm going to shave your head. And he just gets a set of electric clippers. Again, this is a budget thing. Just a of you'd buy at the hair house warehouse it's
Starting point is 00:38:48 exactly what they are he must have got them from earth right it's not a ceremonial sword no it's not like a pair of like golden clippers it's not a laser cutter no it's just a set of buzzy clippers go to target get them because there's things there's moments like that where nobody seems to understand or some people don't understand what's going on on earth and yet someone else is like i'm gonna bring your family here in a garbage bag okay so you have clippers and you have garbage bags you have apartments you have apartments she's like headphones crystal who's the one of the remaining characters we haven't spoken about yet who has fire and ice powers of some sort i can't remember what a power set is in the comics.
Starting point is 00:39:26 It doesn't matter. Anyway, she's like, oh, they've put me in my apartment. Yes. Great. Say my quarters. I've been confined to my quarters. But it does look like an apartment. It does look like an apartment.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Yeah, it's quite nice. Also, they end up tracking Medusa because Crystal thinks that she's stolen a... Communicator. Communicator, but they've left it there on purpose. So she calls Medusa and is like, oh, Medusa, there's been a coup and everybody's whatever. And Medusa's like, oh, where did you get the communicator? And she's like, I stole it from whatever.
Starting point is 00:39:58 And she's like, oh, no, they're tracking it. They could have just called Medusa. It's true, yeah. Because that's not her phone. They probably have Med called Medusa. It's true, yeah. Because that's not her phone. They probably have Medusa's number. And also, when they call Medusa, they're like, oh, now I can be tracked. She breaks it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:14 But they still find it. It's true, yeah. And also, they find it and she's standing near it. She's standing near it. Okay, so what happens is she's on the bus. We'll backtrack. She's standing near it. Okay, so what happens is she's on the bus. We'll backtrack. She gets a bus. She gets a bus from some sort of Hawaiian tourist attraction crater situation.
Starting point is 00:40:32 I think they just stopped on the road. Oh, no, they're at the crater, aren't they? Yeah, they're at the crater. Anyway, and she goes to, I guess, the closest local town. Yep. And then she realizes the communicator's on the trip. She realizes the communicator are going to be trained, so she breaks it.
Starting point is 00:40:46 And then night comes, and then the henchman, the henchwoman, from the moon has arrived on Earth. The bad guy, the Maximus' henchwoman. Maximus' henchwoman comes to Earth, and then she finds the bus, and the bus driver's on there and he's like hey don't you can't get on my bus so she kills him straight up yep and then she gets she finds the broken she gets off the bus and then medusa's there so medusa again just let a civilian die yes that's why because she's the royal family she does not care yep uh and then they fight yes and it's not very good and it's not you know what it's what i liked
Starting point is 00:41:27 about it is there was there was no possibility of a hair pulling lady fight like it was a problem there was literally no chance for it they ruled it out and so i i didn't mind it i didn't i actually quite like the fact that medusa just went in for the full like football tackle straight away i thought that was fun. Well, I guess you could see, you do see her kind of fight with her hair. Yeah. It's fine. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:41:50 It's also not very long. Like it's long, but it's not. It's not comic book long. It's not super helpful. Yeah, that's true. Like it's still like arm's length. Maybe a little bit more. And it's weird in so far as when she's about to get her head shaved,
Starting point is 00:42:04 the hair doesn't fight back. Well, they zap her, I don't know. Yeah, I guess. You'd think the hair would have a vested interest in not being shaved. You would think that, wouldn't you? I guess the hair can't see everything. I guess that's true. I don't understand the hair.
Starting point is 00:42:18 Anyway, my favourite fight scene was when all the cops were hitting Black Bolt with sticks. That was my favourite fight scene. They really laid in. We should mention he does use his voice in that moment and he flips a car. Because he gets tased. And it's quite good.
Starting point is 00:42:30 That is not... That's a good... It's a real car flip. That was the effect shot of both episodes, I feel. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I bet they finished it and they were like, that's the shot for IMAX, baby.
Starting point is 00:42:40 That's the one. Anyway, so there's the fight between Medusa and the henchwoman. Yep. And then Medusa stabs her to death, or what she assumes is to death, max the one um anyway there so there's the fight between medusa and the henchwoman yep and then medusa stabs her to death or what she assumes is to death throws her in the back of a pickup truck and throws it like a top over like throws a top over and what i what amused me about this is that her legs were sticking yeah no but black bolt steals a suit yeah like he seems like quite a well-to-do man who steals a suit and they don't just write it off they call the entirety of the hawaii police department but over on the other
Starting point is 00:43:12 side of hawaii there are what appears to be literally two brutal gruesome murders and nothing happens for like nobody arrives no well it's long enough that the henchwoman, the post-credits scene is that this person that we saw three times maybe in the show came back to life and healed. Yeah. Also, Medusa should know that that's her powers. Exactly. Cut her head off.
Starting point is 00:43:35 Exactly. Again, this speaks to the idea of this universe didn't exist until today. Yeah. If you know this person and you know their power, the reason that woman is not down in the mines is because she has this cool ability yeah so you should know what it is probably yeah yeah exactly unless surprise so she leaves a knife in her get take your knife take your head you don't have your hair anymore i need the knife
Starting point is 00:43:59 jesus yeah there's a man in a wall oh yeah that's right the henchwoman so initially the way you get down to earth is you ask the teleporting dog lockjaw to take you down to earth yes and he will do that for you and then he comes back probably yes but then he oh he's he gets stunned by the bad guys and locked in a locked in a in black bolts apartment locked in his condo and then so they're like well what's another way to get to Earth and I'm assuming like maybe they've got like a shuttle craft or something
Starting point is 00:44:31 maybe like a Star Trek ship cloaking device shuttle craft or something that makes more sense because it's not as convenient as a teleporter but it's what they have so they'll use it right they have another teleporter they've got teleportation devices coming out of the wazoo. But this one is a face that comes out of a concrete wall
Starting point is 00:44:49 that very reluctantly will teleport you anywhere. Yeah. That'll have a bit of a... He's not happy about it. He's not. But then she threatens to kill his family, and so he does it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:00 But... I like to think his family's just like a bunch of bricks on a building site. Well, that's the thing. So, like, he must have gone and had the Terrigen mist. This is probably a character from the comics. I'm not familiar with this man in a wall character that can teleport people. But he must have gone and had the Terrigen mists.
Starting point is 00:45:15 And then where did he turn into a wall? Did he turn into a big block and they put him in a wall? Like, what happened? Look, I'm going to give this guy the benefit of the doubt and say that maybe he went into the phone booth and he transformed into like a rock-like being, like a rock-like man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:35 And then he raised a family and then now he's become more wall-like. Right, okay, so he's slowly becoming more wall-like. It doesn't really explain how he can use, how he's got a teleportation ability though No I guess Why would you go into the box?
Starting point is 00:45:49 It dooms you Yeah right It really does Yeah Like that guy has an amazing power But he's a wall And there's nobody there Like he's
Starting point is 00:45:56 When she goes and talks to him He's just in a dark room Yeah Just a wall in a dark room Again what do you do for entertainment In this universe? You get the guy with the Projection face I guess entertainment in this universe you get the guy with the projection face I guess that's true yeah
Starting point is 00:46:07 imagine being the guy with the projection face yeah right what a and also he's blind and he's blind yeah because they have to lead him in yeah
Starting point is 00:46:13 yeah great stuff god it's what else happened in this show I think that's I'll watch another episode yeah I probably will
Starting point is 00:46:20 but do not pay any money for this really well the run was supposed to be a two-week run and they're cutting it a week short so i'd say most people listening to this have not seen it yeah because i think it's september 29th i think we've given it a i think we've provided a very evocative review and recap so i think do we miss any characters who cares if we did see the
Starting point is 00:46:41 difference between this and agents of shield is yes for me i think agents of shield started promising and then got worse but now it's apparently really good this i just don't i guess it could get better but just cancel it wow is that am i wrong take the production budget assume that this is going to last for 10 years, then take the production budget and use it to buy the X-Men back. Yeah, exactly. Or Disney, take a billion dollars and use it to buy the X-Men back. Correct. You've got a billion dollars. You've got a billion dollars.
Starting point is 00:47:16 So, yeah, would you say, do you think they shouldn't cancel this? Yeah. Is that because you think it's amusing? Yes. Or because you think it's... It's solely because it's amusing. Okay, fair enough. Also, I want to see how fast Medusa's hair grows back.
Starting point is 00:47:28 Well, that is the question. Do you think she'll have like a bob? Potentially. What does the bob do? No, she'll have a pixie cut. Yeah, like a Cersei Lannister pixie cut. Yeah, like a Cersei Lannister pixie cut by episode three, probably. And speaking of, Mason...
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Starting point is 00:48:01 We're going to talk about Game of Thrones. Yeah, we do. The latest season. This will probably be spoiler heavy as well. Yes. Would you say? Yeah. I mean, it's done.
Starting point is 00:48:09 It's been out for a week by now. But also I feel, again, as a guy who does not care for Game of Thrones, I had to watch it in its entirety. But also the people who love Game of Thrones, they're done. They've been done for days. They've been done. It would have been a clean week. They probably watched it twice.
Starting point is 00:48:24 No doubt. All right. Well, so hashtag GOTBros, obviously. they've been done for days it would have been a clean week they probably watched it twice no doubt alright well so hashtag GOT bros obviously we're back aren't we 2017
Starting point is 00:48:31 do you want to talk we'll just I've written down kind of the most like significant moments we can touch on we're not going to do an exhaustive episode
Starting point is 00:48:39 by episode scene by scene what I think felt about this episode this season is that I guess what I do respect about Game of Thrones is that it's not formulaic every season.
Starting point is 00:48:51 It isn't like, okay, every season we're going to see some new players and then there's going to be things that are going to get worse and then it's going to ramp up and then there's going to be action and that's the end. There's seasons where it's a lot of intrigue. There's recovery seasons where it's, like, a lot of intrigue. Yep. There's recovery seasons. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:07 Like, where people are just like, oh, jeez. Like, after the Red Wedding. Yeah. The next season, there's just people going, oh, jeez, what happened? Oh, jeez. It's one of the worst things. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:18 You're right. I mean, this is a bad place to live, but still. That's still, yeah. You're right. And this season is a combination of all the political intrigue and lining up all the different players from all around westeros yeah to all kind of meet and go on little adventures together would you say that's like it's more probably action heavy and yeah this one's but this was a series of meet kids meet kids
Starting point is 00:49:40 and then and then some action which are and you know? Again, I don't know if I loved this season, but I liked it, I think, more than some of the others. Right. And I feel it's setting me up for a final season that I'll enjoy. Because it's balls out, mate. It's balls out and everybody's... For the most part, everybody's dead. Yeah, everybody.
Starting point is 00:49:58 Yeah, everybody. I think all the... Everybody, all the generic characters are dead. Yeah. So it's just characters I recognise now. It's reduced the number of characters that I have to remember the names of. Right, yeah. Or faces.
Starting point is 00:50:11 Faces. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Although there was a moment in, I was going to say the Loot Crate episode, but like the Loot Train episode. Yeah. Where the Lannisters fight the Dothraki. And there's a character, is it Randall?
Starting point is 00:50:23 Randall Tarly. Randall Tarly is nearly like beheaded by a Dothraki, like there's a character is it randall randall tarley randall tarley is nearly like beheaded by a by a dothraki like while he's on horseback and then that dothraki's killed and the the the he he tumbles like off his off his horse and it looks like randall's been rescued by randall because those characters to me are indistinguishable i can't remember who that guy is but i'm like did he rescue himself? Is this a time travel situation? Well, there is a bit of time travel in this show. It's very possible.
Starting point is 00:50:49 Anyway, what were we talking about? Meat cutes. Meat cutes. Something that I did enjoy. I did enjoy the meeting of Daenerys and Jon Snow. It was a bit of a bloody standoff, wasn't it? It was a standoff, but I mean, and they all sort of outlined their cases and what have you,
Starting point is 00:51:00 but my favorite part was that they were like, this is Daenerys. She's from House Targaryen. She's the queen mother of dragons and she's this and the ruler of this and the ruler of whatever and then davos is just like john snow is the king of the north what do you want i don't know he's like they were clearly unprepared i like i enjoyed that part yeah absolutely did you think it was unreasonable for her to be like, bend the knee? Because I think he made a great case for, I don't know you and your father killed my uncle. Yeah. And no, my grandfather and uncle.
Starting point is 00:51:33 Yeah. You're from a family of murderers and lunatics. Sure, yeah. Absolutely 100% not. No, I, I, I, yes, I do respect that. But also I think that it shows that she is, she's been on this very long killing streak. Like she has been cutting a swath
Starting point is 00:51:50 and I think she's just used to that maybe. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're probably right. And I think maybe that, I think,
Starting point is 00:51:57 I think maybe that we were supposed to see that overconfidence in order for there to be some falls later in the season right this feels like the act two of a movie where it's like everything's going pretty well but it's going to get worse before because if if if her like train of i've got a i've got indestructible dragons and i'm just blowing up everybody and whatever like if that continued to the end of this season i'd be like well who cares about the next yeah exactly it's just gonna be that again i think that yeah they're flirting with the idea that she could be mad yeah and it still could very well go that way because she's born of incest like her
Starting point is 00:52:34 parents are brother and sister yep and the westeros way i guess yeah it's more of a targaryen thing but yeah i guess a lattice the thing but uh and also and I was really not cool like it felt really uncomfortable at the end when it I mean we already knew but Jon Snow is her nephew
Starting point is 00:52:50 nephew right biologically yes and they hook up yes and it's very weird yeah but it's also weird in
Starting point is 00:52:58 it's it but they film it that way you're saying yeah that's you're saying it's weird even in this universe where that's been completely normalized for years I guess for some people it's normalized and some saying it's weird even in this universe where that's been completely normalized
Starting point is 00:53:05 for years now. I guess for some people it's normalized and some people it's not. Right. I guess, you know, like for some families because it used to be a thing
Starting point is 00:53:12 that everybody kind of accepted. Right. But since the Targaryens were kind of left. Yeah. Then, you know, that's why Jaime and Cersei Lannister are, you know,
Starting point is 00:53:20 kind of looked down upon. Right. But yeah, the way they intercut with like, oh yeah, here's the wedding of Jon Snow's parents parents which means john snow is this person and then we cut yeah right banging it's very ominous and that also means that he is technically the king that's true yeah which made which i don't know i i think he'd i don't think there's going to be much friction there i think it'll probably come out and he'll be like, you can have it.
Starting point is 00:53:45 All the world together. Because he's never been somebody who really wants any of it. He just wants to be left alone. That's pretty much. He's your point of view character. You'd rather he'd just be left alone forever. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:01 So, yeah. It'll be interesting to see where it goes because there's only six episodes left apparently they're they're a little bit extended and there's no movie no not as far as we know and they it could be like 18 months away as well that's true yeah because they rushed out this season and you can tell in moments because there is some there is some time jumps where somebody gets from here to here very like instantaneously i don't which i'm okay with yeah like i don't i don't memorize any of the geography of stuff but i am aware that on
Starting point is 00:54:30 twitter a lot of people are very mad like i've seen a lot of maps drawn that i didn't understand but it's like look how far they went in the day but it's he took two seasons to do it last time what's it going on and you also have to assume that all the stuff you're seeing isn't happening at the same time necessarily yeah even though there's ravens and whatnot. But yeah, if you need to go between castles, it's like a month. Yeah, exactly right. So it's, you know, like minimum. Isn't it interesting that they never developed any fast traveling?
Starting point is 00:54:58 Like no teleporting dog or no face in a wall. Like they can do a face in a wall. Yeah, they can do a face. We've got faces in trees. That's true, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's all bloody ravens and walking, isn't it? Yeah, but overall, I thought I really enjoyed the season.
Starting point is 00:55:12 Like, despite, like, I think it really was, yeah, there were moments where, with the time jumps and, like, convenience where I even thought the plan to go south of the wall to get a zombie to be like, there's a zombie. But didn't you enjoy the team? That I 100% enjoy, but I'm like, this is the dumbest plan ever. And when you get it, she's not going to care.
Starting point is 00:55:34 Yeah. Which is exactly what happened. Well, they're not smart. They're not all smart people. No. Well, that's it. Also, just fly the dragon in, grab one, bail, which is what they kind of ended up doing anyway.
Starting point is 00:55:46 What I didn't like about this season is it temporarily put paid to the idea that Samwell is going to die in his library. He might still, but he's back on the team. He's back on the Night's Watch. He's definitely going to burn to death with some books around him. Yeah, I hope so. That's my, yeah. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:56:04 Getting back to the very opening, that I really enjoyed. With Arya. with some books around him yeah i hope so that's that's my yeah yeah absolutely i do getting back to the very opening yep that i really enjoyed with aya yeah it's good because she's sitting at the well she's what's his name fray uh filch or whatever his name is and there's a moment where you're like is this a flashback what is this yeah right and then she just poisons the whole family and yeah i think that was good and it's even if she doesn't really get any more character moments, maybe in the rest of this, like that's, it was pretty good. Yeah, she got the revenge that like, yeah, exactly. Is her list done?
Starting point is 00:56:35 No, she's got the hound. She's got Cersei. I think she's got the mountain. But the mountain, the hound is going to get the mountain. Or the mountain's going to crush the hound's skull because it's Game of Thrones. Yeah. That was was you know what the mountain looks like to me when you see him up close yeah he's horrifying yeah like he looks like you imagine darth vader looks when you're a kid yeah i guess and he's just he's he's rotted more than he has last season yeah like his
Starting point is 00:57:01 his eyes are more sunken and red and he's just got just rotting speaking of faceless man right did you i was not aware of this until recently did you know there's a theory that ned stark is still alive there's a there's a many theories yeah which one in particular well as i understand it i mean sure in a way his head was separated from his body at the end of in a way several years ago in a very literal way as way understand it because in in the prison i believe in the end of season one there's like a is it what's the name of the what's the the most famous faceless guy is it jason what's his name oh uh jack and hagar jack and hagar there we go jason i don't know i can't remember but he was all he was also in there, right?
Starting point is 00:57:45 He would have been around there, yeah. Yeah. And people are like, well, how do you capture a faceless man and put him in the bloody prison? So the assumption is that before he gets beheaded, Ned Stark was switched places with somebody else, another faceless man. So when you get beheaded, your face doesn't fall off?
Starting point is 00:58:02 Apparently not. Well, there's also another theory. I did a video on... Yes. It should be called stupid theories. But I titled it as like insane theory. It's not. It's just dumb stuff.
Starting point is 00:58:13 But I would respect... I don't know if I'd respect it. But I would... I think that would be an incredible reveal. Yeah. If Sean Bean's character is still like... He comes back in season eight. I think people will be very upset by that.
Starting point is 00:58:27 That's why I'd like it. Because it betrays everything that the show is built on where consequences... Like, things matter. Yeah. And if you put your foot wrong, even if you're the nicest man in the world or the meanest man in the world,
Starting point is 00:58:40 it doesn't matter. But that's why I'd like it because it would appear there's some kind of justice in this universe. So what's he been doing? Just hiding in the woods? Dunno, I guess. Or he's still in the cell?
Starting point is 00:58:50 Maybe. Yeah. Yeah, I guess. There's another theory because in the book all the Starks are wargs. Yeah, they can all go into animals.
Starting point is 00:58:59 Go into animals. So the theory is that he went into his sword. That's the theory that I put into my book. That's the dumbest thing ever. That's fun, okay. Or birds.
Starting point is 00:59:05 That famous animal, a sword. A sword, exactly. Great. What I, where was I going with this? I can't remember. Oh, that was my, yeah, that was what my feeling is.
Starting point is 00:59:14 Do you feel like this, this series is becoming more TV-like? Because I don't read the books, but I feel like a lot of revelations and things like that are becoming more like, you couldn't do that in a fantasy novel, but you could do it in a fantasy TV series. I think so. And I think that's a result of because they're so off book.
Starting point is 00:59:33 Yeah, right. And those books are so far from being finished. Yeah. George R.R. Martin just probably went, here are the 10 things that happen. Yeah, and then do whatever you want around them. Because they've changed little things like john's real name is agon targaryen but in the books john would have a brother his mother sorry his father had two kids to another woman and one of them is called agon targaryen right and they got killed by the
Starting point is 01:00:00 mountain so they just is that guy just having kids and going yeah this one's also a gone you know so right we don't know how medieval names work no weird medieval parallel universe planets yeah i don't know we don't know nothing that's it so i don't know good dragon stuff though right good and and that's that's something that i again like i liked about this season is good dragon stuff looking pretty good but also now the sides have evened up yes because her having a couple of dragons that she can just you know cut a swath through a swath you're loving the word i love a swath it's good when i think of dragon fire i think of a swath yeah yeah there hasn't been enough swaths not a reason series in my opinion but next season's gonna be all feel swabs all the way mate
Starting point is 01:00:45 yeah it's nice to see that it won't be that there'll be some yeah because if you have a dragon army go up against just regular men yeah
Starting point is 01:00:55 we saw what happened yeah that's right it's devastating and there's things like and there's little things that they seem to have not accounted for they're like
Starting point is 01:01:02 we're running out of food and so and so like the army's stuck at Casterly Rock because jamie kind of you know they emptied it out and then she's just burning hundreds of like carts of food yeah there's things like that but that i think that action sequence is one of my favorite moments from yeah because you just see the devastation and they they met set records for lighting them the amount like, 20 people on fire at once. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. And what's smart about this is, well,
Starting point is 01:01:28 they've built up these characters where you like them on both sides. Like, it's got to a point where you like Jaime, Lannister and Bronn. Yeah, I guess so. But you also don't want to see the dragon get killed. But when he's lining up the dragon with the crossbow, I'm like, fucking kill it. Do it. Because that's the kind of guy, like, imagine if he's the guy.
Starting point is 01:01:44 He's just some guy and he just pulls it off. Because if one of them has to go, the dragon. That's true. I'd rather be the dragon than him. Yeah. Do you know he dated Lena Headey
Starting point is 01:01:56 in real life and they don't share scenes together. Because you know the bit where they have the big council meeting and he's like, I better go. Let's go get a drink. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:02:05 I didn't even think of that. Yeah, okay. Ended acrimoniously. Yeah. There you go. That's it. Do I have more dragon thoughts? Well, you wanted that man to die in a fire, the Tali kid.
Starting point is 01:02:16 That's true. But his brother and father got it, didn't they? That's true, yeah. Would you have just bowed? Yeah. I mean, the kid should have, right right at least look i look i'm a proud man yeah but i don't want to die by dragon fire if i'm honest with you there's no way out of that no like even if she if somebody would be like bow to me i'll break your legs or maybe i'd be like
Starting point is 01:02:38 your legs i can put them in splints or whatever you can't get out of a dragon fire situation you can't do it. No. I think also, I think she should. I mean, there's a very slim chance that you are fireproof. Like your dragon board or whatever. It's like one in 40 million. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:02:57 But there's a chance. But I don't understand. Roll the dice. I see why she did it. But for me, I think because Tyrion was even like, this is a family. Like, you're wiping out a family lineage. And she just went, nah, well, this is how it is. I think she should have put one of them aside.
Starting point is 01:03:15 Yeah, right. I understand it. But I think I was like, that's a little harsh. Yeah, no. Like, he's just standing by his dad and you're like, too bad. You know what I mean? Because she's all about honour and doing what's right. It's almost like it's a cruel universe.
Starting point is 01:03:28 It's almost like that, isn't it? Yeah. This season felt less cruel, though. It did, didn't it? More characters felt invincible for now. Yeah. Okay, so now I guess my question is who's the worst person in Westeros now? I guess it's Cersei.
Starting point is 01:03:41 It is Cersei, right? Or the Night King. But he's not really a person, is he? I guess my misgivings about this final season is... It's a faceless army going on. It's a faceless army, and who cares? He's spooky and whatever. He's spooky, but he's not cruel.
Starting point is 01:04:03 I mean, he is cruel, but it's because he's not. He's not. He's not cruel. I mean, he is cruel. Yeah. But he's not. But it's because he's a magical being. And that's, it's like if you went, oh, a bloody, like a forest fire is cruel. A forest fire is cruel. It is cruel, but it's not like, it's just, it exists. Yeah. That's how I feel about the Night King. He isn't some sort of like cackling monster who's ripping your dick off or whatever.
Starting point is 01:04:24 You know, or feeding people to dogs. He's just a guy. He's matter of fact. isn't some sort of like cackling monster who's ripping your dick off or whatever you know what or feeding people the dogs he's just a guy he's matter of fact he's like right i just want i'm just gonna do it i'm just gonna yeah i'm just gonna take over this because it's my space yeah and that's it and i've now i've got a dragon like it's yeah it's threatening but it's not you're right i'm not gonna feel satisfied when he dies no i think it will be that especially because his whole army will drop dead as well yeah it's like the rule no i think it will be that especially because his whole army will drop dead as well yeah it's like the rule but i think it will be that like they've kept cersei around to also be the threat like they're bringing in the golden company which is you know
Starting point is 01:04:54 this army for hire second theory sure unless it's revealed as some people on reddit have thought that that the night king is brand oh because he got stuck in his body in the past or whatever. No, so I read that, yeah. It's very possible. But then how do you turn that into a humanising moment? I don't know. Yeah. Bran's good at ruining things with time travel, isn't he?
Starting point is 01:05:13 He's either good at ruining things or holding back very vital information or telling his sister that she looked great on the night that she was raped. Like weird stuff like that. Yeah. But I guess he, he must've told the sisters about Littlefinger. Yeah. Because that I,
Starting point is 01:05:32 I like, even though they were like, oh, then they're enemies. The sisters are enemies. I never thought, I never thought that that was not going to end like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:40 Okay. Sure. I think I've jumped topics here. Did you want to talk about Bran and the Night King? that's fine. That's fine. Yeah. That that was actually i think that might have been my favorite one of my favorite moments from the from the season is when i mean i saw it coming but she brings in aria to be like you stand accused for murder and treason and whatever and then she's like what do you think little finger and he's like he does like the double take and then he goes
Starting point is 01:06:02 through every trick that he has yeah like, like threatening and then pleading. Yeah, he denies, he threatens, he bargains, he tries to leave and he's like, no. And then he's just on his knees crying. Yeah, right. I just thought that was incredible. And a really good performance because you don't really see that guy crack ever. That's true, yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:19 And he's also responsible for everything that's happened. It's all him. And it all came to a head. I thought it was great. He's also great as the mayor on happened. It's all him. Yeah. And it all came to a head. I thought it was great. He's also great as the mayor on The Wire. So I've heard. Good stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:32 What else, Mason? What else? Did you like the... Did that bit where they went to the dragon pit feel like it was going to kick off really badly? Like the... Yeah. Like something really terrible was going to happen. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:46 Because, you know, because she's known for putting like dragon fire under structures. That's true, yeah. And they were the first ones there and then she left and then they stayed there.
Starting point is 01:06:55 I was like... But they can't do it twice. I mean, that just happened basically. Yeah, I guess it did. Yeah, fair enough. Yeah. You know what I did actually think? What's that?
Starting point is 01:07:04 I thought Jamie Lannister was going to die. There you go. You know the bit where she gives the mountain the nod? Yes. I was like, but then I guess she didn't mean it because he didn't do it. Because it looked like she went, go for it. Oh, I see. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 01:07:21 Okay. But then he just, he escaped. Maybe she was more like, yeah, this one's all right. Okay. She's got a series of different nods. Okay, gotcha. Yeah. Fair enough.
Starting point is 01:07:30 Is there anything that you expect from the next season? Any predictions? Bran is the Nightman. I don't know if that's going to be true. Yeah, it's probably not. The Hound versus the Mountain will get some variation on that. That's true, yeah. Dragon versus dragon.
Starting point is 01:07:43 It's going to be a dragon fight. I want to see what Blue Fire does versus yellow fire green fire yeah green fire oh and then they then they turn the then they turn the the bloody winter into spring wouldn't that be delightful they just they just shoot some green fire out into the into the snow fields yeah then it's springtime again wouldn't that be a delight i think so did you think it was weird that the Night King lined up that dragon as opposed to the dragon that was sitting in front of him? Maybe he just wanted a challenge. Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 01:08:13 But if you miss, you want one, don't you? It's true. I don't know. Maybe it's, you know what? I bet it's been argued to death on the internet. I bet there's some sort of tactical reason. Yeah, sure. I mean, that's the biggest one, though, was the one.
Starting point is 01:08:28 He didn't aim for the biggest one. Well, maybe that's because, you know, the idea being if you're facing two opponents, if they're both going to hit you, you kill the weakest one first. Because if you stab the big one and he doesn't die, there's still two people attacking you, isn't there? So if you kill the little one... I see. My thinking was kill the big one and he doesn't die there's still two people attacking you so if you kill the little one i see my thinking was kill the big one and then also that they're like one shot kills those things the spears yeah it seems to be anyway oh then i don't know i don't know i think he didn't
Starting point is 01:08:54 have faith in himself i think they could have done it slightly differently where he was lining up the big one and the other one comes in and he does a last minute okay okay right yeah okay i don't know i'll take this one is that it mason i think that's about it what do you want to see in the next that's the dragon fight hound versus mountain i want to see either john snow or daenerys die uh i just i don't want to rule together no i don't think uh it's too weird what if tyrian sneaks in and he's the winner that's fine also do you feel there has to be one person? Like, do you think it's...
Starting point is 01:09:28 Oh, I think that... No, sorry. I think there'll be a democracy. I think that's where they're leading towards. Lame. Yes. Doesn't work. But even Tyrion hints at, he's like, if you die, what do we do?
Starting point is 01:09:41 You know? So you can't also have kids, apparently. Do you think there's one person who's going to sneak in and take it all though? I think it might. Do you think there's going to be hints of democracy and then? Yeah, or like there'll be like a council, like it'll be him and Varys and someone else.
Starting point is 01:09:54 It'll be like, and you know, you can vote in for whoever. And yeah. Like we, the audience. We, the audience can vote for him. Vote in, okay, right. So if you want the mountain to rule Westeros forever until he disintegrates, you can do that. Do you think we're going to see what's under his mask?
Starting point is 01:10:10 Yeah. Yeah. Maybe when he dies. When he dies, okay. Or maybe if he... Maybe in the fight he gets knocked off? Maybe if he can... Yeah, maybe.
Starting point is 01:10:17 Or maybe he's got, like, he can vomit acid or something. Like reptile. Yeah, he's got some backup skills. Oh, yeah, okay. There was a Theon moment He got kicked in the dick Oh yeah that's true Okay that's fine Was it
Starting point is 01:10:33 I feel like that would still hurt Yeah I don't know I don't know Mason Yeah Is that it I think that's it Cool alright
Starting point is 01:10:40 Well let's do our next segment Oh what we're reading What we're gonna read What we're gonna read yeah i'm doing the thing what are we reading today i've been watching a little bit of friends from college on netflix which a lot of people apparently hate a lot it's a very sad show it's sad and the characters are unlikable yeah and yet i like some of them anyway so it's so it's key from key and peel yes kobe smulders um the wonder years boy the one alfred savage um ned's friend from ned and stacy yes uh billy on the street yep some
Starting point is 01:11:21 other people some other people and they're all from from Harvard and they're all pricks. Yeah. And two of them have been having a 20 year affair even though they've both since gotten married to different people. Yes. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:11:32 They're just they're getting into shenanigans. I don't mind it. No, I don't mind it either. I enjoyed it. It's very kind of it feels like a it feels like a Netflix series
Starting point is 01:11:41 where all the characters are unlikable but it's real. It's like love. It's that kind of It's like It's like Always Sunny in Philadelphia, but real. But real, man. So in that sense, I don't like it as much as that, but it's still pretty good.
Starting point is 01:11:53 I understand, Mason. Actually, there's a... You're familiar with Sandspancer, aren't you, Mason? Oh, yeah. Sandspancer Radio. They've got some live shows coming up for the Melbourne... Plumbing the Death Star. Plumbing the Death Star.
Starting point is 01:12:03 That's right. For the Melbourne Comedy... Not for Melbourne. Sorry. For the... Melbourne Fringe Festival. Melbourne Fringe Festival. Nice.
Starting point is 01:12:10 The first ones that are... There's shows between the 13th and the 16th of September at 9.45pm. And they're 50-minute shows. And there's also ones between the 21st and the 23rd of September. That's all your bloody Sandspan's favourites, mate. Coming together. I'll link it below so you've got your Plumbing the Death Star, you've got your movie maintenance, It's all your bloody Sands Pants favorites mate coming together. I'll link it below so you got your plumbing
Starting point is 01:12:26 the desk size you got your movie maintenance you got your bloody that's good business. There's a whole lot of other ones that you can check out. So they're great
Starting point is 01:12:33 Melbourne comedy podcast network. Well worth checking out. Maybe you'll see some old favorites on some new favorites in the crowd Mason.
Starting point is 01:12:42 Not me because I'll be overseas. I'll probably be at work you never know you never bloody know so yeah i'll link that below but again between the 13th and the 16th 21st and the 23rd are at melbourne yeah tickets available at melbournefringe.com.au let me tell you bad websites it's very unpleasant to work through. Is it the same as the Melbourne Comedy Festival website? It's even worse.
Starting point is 01:13:07 Oh, really? It's much worse. Okay, yeah. But still, still get it. Yeah, yeah. Don't let the tickets, the website hold you back. I think if you're searching for something in particular, like Sandspan, it's much easier to find.
Starting point is 01:13:19 But if you're browsing. Oh, right. It's a nightmare. Okay, fair enough. Also, I should point out. Juice! The final Weekly Planet comic is out. Oh, yeah. Our's a nightmare. Okay, fair enough. Also, I should point out... Juice! The final Weekly Planet comic is out. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:27 Our friend Ben Davies. Ben Davies. Issue 10, which I'll also link below. You can read the whole arc. I find it very amusing. Maybe it's because I'm in it. But no, I think there is actually some solid writing in it. I think so, too.
Starting point is 01:13:38 Yeah, yeah. So, it's a 10-issue arc of us going up against the mayor of Melbourne. Our greatest... That rat, Robert of Melbourne. Yep. Our greatest. That rat Robert Doyle. Yeah. Our greatest nemesis. It's got a whole lot of in-jokes to the podcast as well, which some people will get into, some people probably won't.
Starting point is 01:13:54 But no, I think it's fun. I think it's a lot of fun. It's good. It's real good. And it's weird that we're in a comic book. Yeah. Anytime anybody's like, hey, I did this and I made a poster, but you're in it. I'm like, oh, all right.
Starting point is 01:14:04 I love it, but it's weird. Yeah, that's it. What are you going to read though, Mason? I just said. What? Friends from college. Oh, yeah, you did this. God damn it.
Starting point is 01:14:15 Sorry, Mason. I also should mention this week, I'm going to be on a few things. Millennial Falcon on Screen Junkies. I'm going to do a movie fight. I don't know what the topic is. I don't know whether I'm going to be any good at it. Probably not. You have very aggressive opinions on movies and things.
Starting point is 01:14:31 Do I, though? No. You don't at all. You don't have any feelings about them at all. I'll eat a cocaine-filled banana before I get into it. I think a Jedi Council. Hopefully, though. I mean, some or none of those might work out.
Starting point is 01:14:46 Because, you know, you never know. You never know with bloody LA traffic, do you, Mason? LA, scheduling, meetings. City of Light. Chateau Marmont. Correct. Yeah, yeah. The Valley.
Starting point is 01:14:57 Yeah, we'll talk about that next week as well. If I make the episode. We're still kind of weighing up how that's going to work. Yeah, we'll figure something out. I'm going to be one behind again, maybe, Mason. What if you are? It's going to be great for next year good good good uh letters it's time for letters letters it's time for the last one was the letters very good mason thank you got some uh tweets here hashtag weekly planet pod Take my way. I know they're here right now. We're going to do letters.
Starting point is 01:15:26 Very good, Mason. Thank you. Got some tweets here. Hashtag weekly planet pod. The legend says, the legend X says, isn't humans any good? No. No. Got the, you got a letter in the mail. I put this out there on Twitter and I haven't actually gone through them yet, but there's
Starting point is 01:15:44 hundreds. So I will pick a few. Oh, Fred Charles has emailed this week with planetpot at gmail.com. Please bring back Matt Stewart for another episode. We should. Or Mason, go on,
Starting point is 01:15:56 do go on. I'm going to do that tomorrow. Excellent. We're going to record an episode of do go on tomorrow. It's going to be at 9am, which is the optimal on a Saturday. That's the optimal time for recording a podcast. So we'll see how that goes.
Starting point is 01:16:09 So everybody look out for that. And in the meantime, just listen to their bloody show. Because it's real good. It's their bloody show, mate. Real good. What else we got here? Yeah, I'm doing one of those when I get back as well, it seems, Mason. I'll keep the topic a secret.
Starting point is 01:16:22 But if you like Star Wars let me tell you that's the topic so oh cool yeah nice one I got him before Steel Saunders
Starting point is 01:16:31 yeah you did if you could make some very obvious errors that would be good and he would appreciate that yeah I absolutely will this is from Crew Errington hey Mason and Nick
Starting point is 01:16:41 that's me my favourite GOT bros yeah I don't like it do you think GOT has gotten worse over the last two series? No, I think it's better. Because there's more action? There's more action and less intrigue,
Starting point is 01:16:51 and people are getting what's coming to them. Yes. They're getting got, as it were. They're getting got. Oh, name cannot be blank also pointed out. We're on Spotify. We've been meaning to mention that for like a month. Yeah, we've been on Spotify for ages
Starting point is 01:17:05 yeah but there's a whole lot of also all the other planet broadcasting podcasts are on there as well there are that's true it's great if not all of them soon yeah
Starting point is 01:17:11 because if like me you've just gotten a phone plan where Spotify doesn't count towards your data real good real bloody good because you can listen to all the podcasts all of them don't get charged a bloody arm and a leg
Starting point is 01:17:22 yeah 10 bucks a gig it's crazy what are we living in the bloody is it possible for a movie with a massive ensemble cast to be good some uh slavorian grigas slavorian yeah grigas slavorian uh it's chicken macabre is the twitter handle chicken macabre it's macabre m-a-c-a-B-R-E. Or is that Macabre? Sorry, say it again? Doesn't matter. Okay. It's irrelevant. Not irrelevant.
Starting point is 01:17:50 Everyone's important, mate. It's from Matthew Hosp. I'm in the middle of a tweet. No, it's fine. He's got a question for each of us. James, what low-budget film would you recommend? Noise. Australian film.
Starting point is 01:18:00 Yeah, pretty good. Two Hands, actually. I'm going to say Two Hands. Two Hands is a good one. Yeah. What about you? Again, I always recommend The Man From Earth. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:08 It's that weird cabin. That's super low. That's very low budget. It's in a cabin. It's just talking. It's a bit of a wank, but it's all right. It is a bit of a wank, isn't it? Maceo, how often do you watch videos on the Mr. Sunday Movies channel?
Starting point is 01:18:20 No, I watch your videos that don't have me in them for the most part. Oh, really? Yeah. See, I prefer the ones where it's me and you. Oh, there you go. Because when it's just me, I'm like, oh, I watch your videos that don't have me in them for the most part. Oh, really? Yeah. You know, see, I prefer the ones where it's me and you. Oh, there you go. Because when it's just me, I'm like, oh, I hate this. Did that joke even work? I can't tell because there's no one to bounce off.
Starting point is 01:18:33 You could, what if you inserted me laughing? I can't do that. Maybe not every time, but. Yeah, I think every time. I just want a clean laugh. Yeah, clean laugh, please. You've done it again. Literally put that in. I will. Just do do a special one just do every single time wait wait wait ha ha mr sunday movies you old scallywag you've done
Starting point is 01:18:56 it again with your humor a lot of people watch that will be like what is this no most people will get it i think the audience for this is now bigger than the YouTube channel for the most part. So yeah. YouTube is dead, Mason. Oh no. For me at least. I love YouTube. Yeah, it's all right.
Starting point is 01:19:13 Sorry. So Chicken Macabre says, so yeah, is there a possible for movies with an ensemble cast to be good? So like New York, Paris, I love you. He's asking for Avengers Infinity War. Oh yeah. Well, obviously. Love Actually. Love Actually. I think Love Actually works. good so like new york paris i love you uh he's asking for avengers infinity war oh yeah well obviously um love actually love actually i think love actually works i've not actually seen really actually actually i like it i mean it's it's you know it's saccharine and whatever and not every
Starting point is 01:19:35 storyline is great but there's some really good performances and yeah i think of oceans 11 that worked that's an ensemble cast oceans 12 no faberge. Faberge Ick? No. Ocean's 13? No. I mean, better than 12, but marginally. Because it's mostly the same as the first one. Look, I think that they absolutely can work. And the key is probably everybody's having a good time on set. Like Clash of Egos is going to kill those, would potentially kill those movies.
Starting point is 01:20:00 I don't know. Yeah, absolutely. Why would Infinity War not be good? Sometimes things just aren't good you didn't love Age of Ultron did you that's a really good point too
Starting point is 01:20:10 but it's not terrible yeah they've learned their lessons yeah okay I might do one more nice how about this one
Starting point is 01:20:18 Jason Landry says do you think the Spawn and Hellboy reboots will both be better than the original movies what was the first one you said Spawn and hellboy reboots will both be better than the original movies what was the first one you said spawn and help spawn definitely definitely better yes yeah which i loved when it came out at the cinema yeah but a while back i attempted to watch i think it was on netflix briefly and i attempted to watch it and it's real bad atrocious one of the worst
Starting point is 01:20:41 things yeah um hellboy that's tough yeah because you're not a huge fan of two but you like one is that right uh i really liked one it's two is a good film but i i my favorite hellboy stuff is hellboy hellboy versus you know nazi wizards yes and there was less of that that this it was more which one we had the clockwork sandman? Was that one or two? That's one. Okay. Yeah, that was cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:07 And I felt the second one straight a bit too far, but I mean, that's Hellboy, the comic book, goes in all sorts of weird directions. So I'm willing... I don't know if it's going to be better because I feel Ron Perlman is the... Yeah, he's real good. ...is Hellboy.
Starting point is 01:21:20 Yeah. But I think it's going to be good. Yeah. We're going to get to see... Again, we're going to get to see more aspects of that universe, which I think is going to be good. Yeah. We're going to get to see, again, we're going to get to see more aspects of that universe, which I think is going to be good. We didn't mention that Ed Skrein, Ed Skrein? Oh, yeah, he was in GOT.
Starting point is 01:21:32 He was a GOT bro, 2017. He was going to be Damio, who is an Asian-American character. Oh, and I was thinking about Ed Sheeran from Game of Thrones. Oh, yeah, I didn't even think about Ed Sheeran. Keep going. So he was Ed Skrein. I don't know how you pronounce his last name, but he was the about Ed Sheeran from Game of Thrones. Oh, yeah, I didn't even think about Ed Sheeran. Keep going. So he was Ed Scray. I don't know how you pronounce his last name, but he was the bad guy in Deadpool.
Starting point is 01:21:49 Yes. The British bad guy in Deadpool. Yes. He was cast. He was the second transporter. He was the second transporter. Or the third transporter if the TV show came in between. I'm not sure.
Starting point is 01:21:57 Anyway, sorry, keep going. Anyway, he was cast as a character in The New Hellboy, being unaware that that character is asian american and has a lot of very specific like backstory that involves him being asian yes and uh there was some as usual some controversy about that and so he stepped down yeah he just went yeah okay fair enough yeah good move yeah i think like i think think it was smart on his behalf as well. Yeah, totally. Because I think he would just get that until that movie came out and beyond.
Starting point is 01:22:30 Oh, totally, yeah. So he just went, you know what, no. Yeah, yeah. I'm not dealing with that. You don't want to be Emma Stone being that Asian Hawaiian lady or whatever it is. That's right. Yeah, and I don't, that's not his fault, obviously. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:40 He didn't know, or he says he didn't know. And also I think with that character, if you see it, like if you, and I'm sure they would have just been like, yeah, he's a character and he's a brave warrior and he's got this origin
Starting point is 01:22:51 and blah, blah, blah. Like I'm sure they wouldn't go, hey, he's Asian. Can you deal with that? I'm sure they would. Like, you know how in Ghost in the Shell, Scarlett Johansson's character
Starting point is 01:23:01 was referred to as the Major in all the promotional material, like not major Motoko Kusanagi no like Damio could be Italian you don't know yeah well that's true
Starting point is 01:23:12 yeah oh we've got some Dick Grayson casting sorry sorry I'd cut you off there no that's fine look I think that's probably a good move
Starting point is 01:23:18 yeah I think so yeah but who will they cast now an Asian guy yeah get bloody Daniel Dae Kim Daniel Dae Lewis he could do it you know he could do it But who will they cast now? An Asian guy? Yeah. Get bloody Daniel Day-Kim. Daniel Day-Lewis?
Starting point is 01:23:27 He could do it. Do you know he could do it? Oh, the challenge of it. We've got an actor. Brendan Thwaites has been cast as Nightwing. A new report has confirmed that Brendan Thwaites has been cast as a famous hero in Titans as Nightwing. So he played the kid in the last Pirates movie. He was the new Orlando Bloom. Oh, yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:23:49 Yeah. Sure. He was fine. Yeah, I think so. Yeah. So Titans, this is a TV show, I assume. So this isn't for the Batman and it's not for... No. Okay. Well, see, I'm less enthused now. I might be wrong.
Starting point is 01:24:03 Because if it's not... If you're not throwing Nightwing into the DCAU, you know what I mean? Yeah. Come on. That's it. I think it's- How many are dogs? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:12 I guess it's a live action Tim Titan thing. Yeah. Anyway, that'll do it, Mason. Yeah, we did it. What a good episode. This is our best episode, don't you think? Best episode we've ever had. I think so.
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Starting point is 01:24:47 if you're, if you're a musician on Spotify, you get like a half a cent per play or something like that. Yeah. You get half a cent in a kick in the balls. That's right.
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Starting point is 01:26:39 Is that it, really? That's the show, I think, yeah. All right, cool. Yeah, so next week, something else. Oh, It, hopefully. Oh, yeah, we'll watch that. Which I'm really looking... Apparently, it's good. Great. I think yeah cool yeah so next week something else oh It hopefully oh yeah well watch that which I'm really
Starting point is 01:26:46 apparently it's good great I'm not a horror movie guy but I've been really looking forward to it nice so I'm gonna be scared
Starting point is 01:26:52 are you gonna be scared I'll be scared okay yeah because of the clown yeah because of the clown but he can also be like a werewolf oh no
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