The Weekly Planet - 202 It 2017 & Star Wars Loses Another Director (with Two In The Think Tank)

Episode Date: September 11, 2017

Yeah this one is about IT. Great cohosts with Al and Andy from two in the Think Tank stepping in! Bless em.They also get stuck into Star Wars losing another director, Leto getting loose on set, Thor Ragnarok story details, Avengers 4 casting, The Mummy for some reason and X-Force getting a director. Thanks for listening!Two In The Think Tank: https://goo.gl/rR93gdCheck out Al here: https://twitter.com/alasdairtbCheck out Any Here: https://twitter.com/stupidoldandyCheck out Movie Fights here: youtube.com/watch?v=IzsiRE8XUi05:08 Star Wars Director Dilemmas14:40 Leto the Loose Unit Updates20:14 Thor Ragnarok as a Standalone Movie24:14 Avengers 4 Casting Calls31:39 The Mummy 2017 Box Office36:15 X-Force Gets a Director41:00 IT 2017 Non-spoiler Review1:01:27 IT 20117 Spoiler Review1:24:50 What We Reading/Gonna Read1:29:30 Letters, It's Time For Letters... EventuallyThanks to RAWCollings for the time codes!Buy IT on Amazon: https://amzn.to/2nhShTMThe Weekly Planet YouTube Channel: https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHFind our T-Shirts here: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret, the other a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+. Mason, do you mind if I step out for the rest of the show? And I have to take care of the child? No, that and also bring in another guest because I'm not going to be here for the rest of this. Okay, sure. Do you mind?

Well, what I can do is I can get the guest to take care of the child. Okay, good. So you just do this by yourself. But I don't have to be here, just to be clear. Okay, cool. so i don't have to look after a child and i don't have to be here that's right fucking show with you perfect good still cats is an episode though for me i'm just it does not absolutely not no Comic Book Movie News Shooting up your butt hole The Weekly Planet The Weekly Planet Welcome once again to another episode of The Weekly Planet, the official podcast of ComicBookMovie.com

where we talk about movies and TV shows and comic books and sometimes murderous extra-dimensional clowns. This week I am your host Nick Mason, regular host of James' Mr. Sunday Movies. He's in Hollywood, He's Hollywooding about. He's gallivanting about. He's pointing at signs, and he's being on movie fights, and he's getting into real fights with those cosplayers at Hollywood Boulevard. You know what I'm talking about. Anyway, listen, I can't do this alone because I'm technically very incompetent.

So we're going to talk about the movie It, and I'm a big old fraidy cat, so I figured I'd employ my two bravest mates. They are stand-up comedians. They are writers for the television. They are podcasters. They have their own great podcast, Two in the Think Tank. And the bravest thing of all, they're both dads. So the bravest job in the world.

The real heroes. In a way. So may I introduce Andy Matthews and Alistair Tremblay-Virtual. You may. I'm Andy. And I am Alistair George William Tremblay-Virtual. Thank you for having me on your podcast. Thank you, Nick.

You're very welcome. It's a real bloody pleasure to be here. Let's get it out of the way. Where's the accent from? I ask you every time. Sure. It's Canadian with 20 years of Australia in it. Huh.

Yeah. So did you not know that? Did you forget that? No, I had a vague sense. I think you tell me every time and then I forget every time. Yeah, my mom's French-Canadian, my dad's Australian.

It's really, it's pretty much one part Canadian to two parts Australian at this stage. But I mean, that Canadian, it's got those notes that just linger on the tongue.

Yeah. Those honey notes. Yum, yum, yum. Yeah. That's what you taste. Andy, what have you got? Tasmanian? Tasmanian. Good. All right. Delicious. Yeah, that's taste. Andy, what have you got? Tasmanian? Tasmanian.

Good. Delicious. That's those apple perfumes that are kind of coming, emitting from your sort of back teeth. Tasmanian with a hint of watching David Attenborough documentaries for pretty much 10 years straight. Is that where the husk comes from in your voice? Yeah, a little bit of husk.

Also, I've got a cold. I don't know. Don't we all? Nick, where do you come from? Northern suburbs of Melbourne. voice? Yeah, a little bit of husk. Also, I've got a cold. I don't know. Don't we all. Nick, where do you come from? Northern suburbs of Melbourne. Really? Yeah. So you've just kind of, basically from birth to this moment, you've traveled about 200

meters? Yeah, I've driven from Zone 2 to Zone 1. Okay, yeah. And now I'm here. That's great. How far would Jon Snow have gone in that amount of time? Oh, don't get me started. People are very upset about that.

I'm not a Game of Thrones guy, but I do have to watch the entire thing and talk about it on the podcast. And I know that people are very upset. People have drawn diagrams. People do not care. They're like, but in the previous season, he only went this far, but now it's...

Allow me to tell you that the only reason I know about it is from listening to your podcast. Listening to you, a person who doesn't want to know about it, tell me about it. Tell me about the other people who are unhappy about it. That's, wow, it's like a copy of a copy of a copy. Yeah, it's the only way I get information. Anyway, speaking of information,

do we want to talk about the latest news? Up to the minute news. Okay, here's probably the biggest news for this week. So, Star Wars Episode IX, the upcoming yet to be filmed Star Wars Episode IX, the upcoming yet-to-be-filmed Star Wars Episode IX, has lost its director. Okay, so this isn't the first Star Wars movie to lose a director, right? No, this is the third.

Wow. So there was going to be one a few years ago that was going to be directed by Josh Trank, who then directed Fantastic Four. Wow, okay. Sounds like a good loss. That was a good loss. Then Lloyd and Miller, Phil Lloyd and I'm going to say Phil Miller, they were going to direct the Harm Solo solo film.

Yes. And they got booted apparently because there was too much improv on the set. There was too much. Are you serious? Were they apatowing it? I think they were a little bit, yeah. They did the Jump Street films and so they're. It was just a lot of goofing, a lot of hijinks.

Yeah, I think that what we're seeing recently, like the trend for big Hollywood blockbusters is you get an indie director who can inject a little bit of heart, and you bring him in and you say, okay, let the actors give some good performances and have a bit of fun, but do not touch the plot, do not touch the action sequences, do not touch the special effects, don't touch the character designs,

don't touch anything. And if you do, you're out. So it's like you're staying in an Airbnb, basically. The Star Wars universe is a sharing economy where you can come, but there's a lot of sticky notes on things, there's a lot of laminated sheets of paper next to the sink,

and you're not allowed to... If you fuck up, you're going to get a bad review. Do not touch Jabba's drapes. Yes. Those directors were caught going through their drawers. That's right.

So this time around, it's Colin Trevorrow. He did, as with the trend, he did an indie film about five years ago called Safety Not Guaranteed. I don't know if you guys saw that one. Yeah, I did.

It was basically, it was based on a funny picture from the internet. Are you serious? So there's this funny picture that has circulated on the internet. It's like a classified ad and it says something along the lines of wanted someone to go back in time with me, must have own weapons, safety not guaranteed, I've only done this once before. Sure.

And the premise was there are these media elites up in the big city who are like, we're going to go to this little town and find this crazy character who wrote this article. And then everybody falls in love. It's one of those. I thought it was going to turn into a time travel... It does. Spoiler alert!

Usually with this sort of indie film, it's always left a bit ambiguous. It's like at the end, somebody opens a door and there's a light and they go, oh, my God, and then the film ends. But with this one, somebody walks into a field and there's a time machine and they go, oh, it's the time machine. And then they walk into the time machine and they disappear. And they travel through time.

Wow. Yeah. See, that's how I like my subtext. Written very large and on top of everything else. That's right. So anyway, he did that and then he was given the keys to Jurassic World immediately afterwards. And then he's been given Star Wars Episode IX. And he's lost it.

Yeah, because he... Well, who's to say why? There's some rumors, but in between Jurassic World... He put a time machine in it, didn't he? Yeah, he might have. I mean, you can't rule it out, right? There's no suggestion of time travel at any point in the Star Wars universe. No, there's some spin-off stuff that

may... There's some non-canonical spin-off stuff. There's one where Han Solo goes back in time and dies and then his bones

are dug up by Indiana Jones. It's non-canonical but it exists. Are you sure that's non-canonical? Because that sounds like something they

would definitely include. Sounds plausible, doesn't it? But in between Jurassic World and now, he released his passion project, which was a movie called The Book of Henry, which was a movie about a super intelligent kid

who dies at the end of the first act and then he leaves his mother a plan to assassinate somebody. Wow. Yeah, it's real weird. You've seen it? I haven't. It didn't get a release here. Okay.

So, yeah, that's come out. There's been some bad juju about it. And now he's out. Wow. Do you think it's on the basis that they looked at that movie and they were like, I mean, look, you just fluked all those other films, obviously. This is the real you. The real you has come out now. Well, that's the thing. It's not like he just fluked all those other films, obviously. This is the real you. The real you has come out now.

Well, that's the thing. It's not like he even fluked that many other movies. He fluked one indie and then fluked Jurassic World. And then they're like, put dinosaurs in, have some people running around, do not change anything. Yeah, I mean, that had a minimum amount of millions of dollars that it was going to make anyway off of the back of being Jurassic World. Jurassic something. Yeah, exactly. So that had a minimum amount of millions of dollars that was going to make any way off of the back of being Jurassic. Jurassic something.

Yeah, exactly. So who are they thinking? Did I see that they're thinking about Mr. Steven Spielberg for this? That's certainly an option, yeah. As a director replacement? But I think that's, you know, that's always on the table. Just to beg and plead. So is that like, they're like, okay, look, director's gone.

Please, Spielberg, will you do this like is that one of those kind of situations or is it just that he's kind of quite available these days and he'll just do anything no i think it's i think it's the play the beginning yeah right um so yeah apparently trevorrow was unbearable on set that's another of the the rumors the the scuttlebutt is that too many opinions. And again, you can't do that. You can't just be like, hey guys, why don't we... You know, let's make Skyrock a bad guy. You can't just... Unless that's the plan.

I mean, it would be non-canonical. Exactly, yeah. I mean, look, but you could explain it. Like, maybe he was an asshole as a kid, you know, and then somehow he had a turnaround. And that makes him even more likable the fact that he recognized the awfulness in himself and then became a good guy that's true i'd love to see him overcome something yeah you know instead of what the entire empire and also his own everything look that was not a

well-constructed sentence. No, but let's say, like, all he had to do, let's say, like, something that was very difficult to conquer that doesn't involve the Empire is, like... Bullying? That's difficult. Workplace bullying. Workplace bullying, yeah, that's the real demon. That's a good one, but what about a bowl of Doritos on a table, right?

It's there. I'm listening. Yeah, you don't... You're like, you know, I know I shouldn't eat this whole bowl of Doritos on a table, right? It's there. I'm listening. Yeah, you don't, you're like, you know, I know I shouldn't eat this whole bowl of Doritos on a table, right? If Luke Skywalker, if you could see him do that, you'd go, that guy has, he might be the gifted one.

He might be the one that they foretold about. They left his drink on the table and he didn't take a single sip until his mains arrived. See, he's got the power. That's great, right? Also, it's nice and localized, because I think it'd be interesting to just see a smaller scope Star Wars movie. That's what people have been wanting.

But it just all takes place in the one room. It's just him there with his demons. We'll get Linklater involved. Linklater could direct. That's exactly the kind of thing that he would do. He's an indie guy. Is he? He's pretty indie.

He made that movie Tape, right? Where they were sitting in one room and they just spoke for a bit. That's really good. Yeah, it was really good. There was no Doritos though. So we don't know whether he's capable of doing that. Good stuff. What I've decided to do is leave in a lot of awkward pauses because james see for those uh

listening at home which i assume is everybody uh i have outsourced the competence of this episode to andy and al we were in stupid old studios because i am technically very not proficient so and we're so what i'm going to do is i'm going to leave in a lot of awkward pauses and then james mr sunday movies is going to have to edit them out and i am absolutely happy to pick up that ball and fumble with it. Thank you. Bless you. Hey, here's another bit of news. Jared Leto.

Opinions on Jared Leto, anyone? I have absolutely no opinions on Jared Leto. I don't know if I've seen anything that he's done. Dallas Buyers Club. Haven't seen it. Suicide Squad. Not seen by me. Requiem for a Dream.

One that I have not encountered with my eyes. You've heard it with your ears?'ve you've heard it with your ears or you've touched it with your skin we trapped you on a web of logic andy um look i i sort of i liked him in requiem for a dream right um but since then seeing him outside of films i i feel like he looks like a being of pure ego oh absolutely yeah and and i heard him talk about his band and he believed in them so strongly that my only reaction he's such a high pressure system of of belief in self is that i cannot give him any of mine because i have to i have to keep it away the ego can only travel outwards from him. There's no capability.

He is a son of ego. Not the son of an ego, but like a burning ball of ego. Not the son of ego, the living planet. It's a little reference. We're going to always bring it back. Always going to bring it back. Always going to bring it back. No, you're right.

And he's also that, he's one of those guys you'll see in a photo of like, he's a he's at like a fashion runway and he's watching the the show and then there'll be photos of him a week later and he's wearing the he's wearing like the green alligator skin coat just on the street you're not supposed to wear it you're not supposed nobody does that it's not for wearing yeah that's that's it's not for like a public consumption or whatever it is you know it's pet food only kind of thing exactly it's fashion fashion runway only is what it says on the label in there it's actually unhealthy for you if you wear it in public oh you know but you can't feed it to your dog yeah yeah armani puts asbestos and all this in the lining that's right uh so anyway uh so you may not know that on suicide squad he was uh he

was a bit of a handful he would uh he would like send his co-stars like bullets with their names on them and stuff like that. And like, it was like a pig blood situation. There was, and there was like a, but they'd send them used anal beads or whatever. And,

and which is a logistical, you, Andy, you've got a look of a man who's like, that's a logistical nightmare. You're right. The used anal bead situation. Yes.

Yeah. I mean that I, I wouldn't know where to start. Is that, is Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't know where to start. Is that a... I mean, first you have to find out that it's used and that is the worst already.

Right, exactly. That you've had to undergo this kind of like, what's special about this? Now Warner Brothers have to have like a Jared Leto forensics laboratory where they have to go through

all the weird stuff he's sending around. But, so anyway, on Suicide Squad he was a weird cat. A real weird cat because he was the Joker and he apparently wanted to get real method on it.

And apparently now they've been filming Blade Runner 2049, the sequel to the original Blade Runner, and his character is blind in the movie, so now he's blind on set. So he's purchased a special set of contact lenses i'm assuming they're just they're just white they could just be cloth they're just yeah that's it that's that's that that must be infuriating because like a lot of people when there's a disabled character played in a movie right yeah like you you uh people people say why can't that

be played by an actual disabled exactly which is a really good argument right, right? There's a movie that came out recently, Baby Driver. There's a blind man in that, actual blind actor. Fantastic, right? But you would say that one of the only reasons you could argue to not have a blind person playing that role is that it's just a bit more convenient to have someone you can see so that you can get them to the set without them tripping over a cable or something.

But if you've got a sighted person who just pretends to be blind, you don't even have that. No. And, in fact, it takes more effort because apparently one of the assistants has to be taken out of the rotation to, like, lead him around by the elbow. That's it. An actual blind person would have the ability to guide themselves. They'd be independent.

They'd have a dog or a stick. Yes. Maybe they learned echolocation. Exactly. Some of them do that. You guys are men of science. How does that work? Dolphin.

You've got to commune with a dolphin. Oh. You find your spirit animal and it happens to be a dolphin. You're doing all right. Yeah. Okay. So here's a quote.

This is from the director. He entered the room and he could not see at all. He was walking with an assistant very slowly. It was like seeing Jesus walking into a temple. Everybody became super silent and there was a kind of sacred moment. Everyone was in awe. You're coughing with belief, Andy, there.

But I'm not finished. It was so beautiful and powerful, I was moved to tears. And that was just a camera test. Wait, is that a quote from Jared Leto no that's a quote from the director the guy who's now left the film

oh no this is it this is uh he's still on board okay yeah cause that's that's a great thing to say sarcastically

after you've been fired also every every element of this you could very easily spin the other way everybody became super silent yeah they did cause of how weird and offensive it was.

That's why. This is problematic. I was moved to tears probably for insurance reasons. That's why. This is going to cost me a million dollars if he trips on something. Falls down one of those weird pyramid buildings. I should have. The insurance company interviewing you after he really hurts himself

like wasn't there anything you could do like tell him not to do that right oh no no i'm only the director i'm not allowed i'm sorry i can get a slightly better performance out of him but i cannot affect any means of the plot at all uh leto added he didn't dive as deep down the rabbit hole as maybe i've done before but i stayed really. He was still mailing the anal beads. Oh, absolutely, yeah. That's an integral part of that character. But they weren't used this time. Is he still mailing stuff to people,

like letters that are very poorly handwritten? It would be good, wouldn't it? So this is a drawing of you, or here's a sculpture. It seems like that's more of a sculpture art form. Those sculptures you can really touch. It's very tactile. Is that what you're trying to say?'s more of like a sculpture art form. It's kind of, you know, like those sculptures you can really touch. It's very tactile. Is that what you're trying to say? Yeah, it's a very tactile thing.

So maybe he's sending people like, this is what your collarbone feels like to me. Does anybody know anything about method acting? Because I'm starting to think this isn't actually what it is. My understanding is that that's not what method acting is. My understanding is that method acting is where you use experiences from your actual life. Like the time you bought those contact lenses.

Right. If I'm performing in a scene where I have to buy contact lenses, sure, I might go back and I might recall the time in which I bought contact lenses, and I use the emotions from that to bring to the scene so that you get a really emotionally real buying contact lenses scene. But just being a fuckhead to your co-workers.

You can swear on this, it's fine. Can I? Oh, good. I'm glad I asked. In many ways, it's a shame that the Joker curse isn't real. Isn't it, though? Yeah. It's a shame there's a Superman curse and not a Joker curse. Is there a Superman curse? There's a Superman curse.

Well, I mean, there's a Superman curse in the sense that there's been so many actors, you know, there's been actors playing Superman for 80 years and some of them have died. Yeah. And so, you know. You might say that there's really really there's just a man curse you know the curse of of humanity is that we must all die and bad things happen to all of us sometimes seemingly randomly anyway anyway this episode is brought to you by we did the ad earlier i don't know what it's for um let's see who loves marvel movies here guys i

really love marvel movies i enjoy a lot of Marvel movies when I see the movies But you don't seek them out No Generally I would say Maybe go see 50% There you go One for another What's been your fave Andy?

Or least fave Or one you found was okay This is the lowest stakes question but I'm so terrified I'll get it wrong and I'll say a DC film or something. The Diary of Anne Franklin? No! Oh! No! That's not out until 2019, you idiot.

They haven't bought the rights yet. Look, I'm a big fan of The Avengers, the first Avengers. That is a good one. That is a good one. And I think the Avengers has been on a little bit of a downward spiral since then. And I am a very large fan of Taika Waititi, so I'm very excited for the new Thor film. That is exciting, yeah.

I've been watching all his little tweets and things. Well, actually, I was going to do a different piece of Marvel news, but here's some Taika Waititi news. Yeah, he is. Let's see. Hang on.

That's not news. I'm getting to it. That's just noises. James is going to edit this out. He's not because he enjoys me fluffing about. Thor Ragnarok, which is upcoming, obviously is going to be part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, but apparently Taika Waititi is not concerned

with making an episode of some larger thing. So he's put his foot down and he's saying this is a standalone. A little self-contained. Yeah. Have you ever heard of such a thing? It's a little Polly Pocket. It's a little other small thing. I mean, this is the kind of ballsy move

that will get an indie director booted from a film. I know, right? He's really making a power move here. But from what I've seen in the trailers, it seems to all take place in space or on some other realm or something like that. So it feels like it makes sense that you could do something that's more or less independent.

Well, apparently it's going to be bouncing all around the place. There's going to be a little bit on Earth. There's going to be a little bit in Asgard. There's going to be a little bit on Earth. There's going to be a little bit in Asgard. There's going to be a little bit in Mr. Thrum, the magical realm of Mr. Thrum. And then Alien Planet. Mr. Thrum? Yeah, Mr. Thrum.

Mr. McThrum. Yeah, it's going to be Mr. McThrum's house. Magical toy box. That's right. And so for what purpose would you do this? Like make it a standalone so that you can make things happen to Thor that other directors don't happen to Thor that other directors don't have to continue that story of like so yeah he gets his he said it gets like one of those

asymmetrical haircuts and then so it's like look just so everybody else in the Marvel universe doesn't have to do it exactly you can just just add a line that off camera he got some extensions later and it's don't don't worry just add It won't cost you anything extra. Just fine. No, that's too much? Okay, that's fine. We'll just make it a standalone film. Whatever.

So the next Thor movie after this will have someone shouting from off camera nice extensions early on in the film. That's right. Because you've got to

tie up those loose ends otherwise people are going to be angry. Well, he said here if this is the only Marvel film you see he wants to make sure it's a great film and it's a great story in and of itself the lucky thing is that there are a bunch of geniuses who run marvel who make sure that even if it's a standalone piece it's part of a great big jigsaw puzzle that could be appreciated as a

whole as well which seems to me like he's throwing a whole bunch of other people under the bus it really sounds to me like he's like i'm gonna look thor's gonna, Thor's going to lose both of his hands at the end of this. And honestly, if you want to fix it, I don't care. You're going to have to fix it. I know that I'm the pilot of this airplane, but there's a lot of passionate passengers back there who are really keen to get to the destination. So I'm going to take my hands off the wheel and we'll just see what happens because I know I believe in those guys back there. And yeah, they're going to do this. There was a lot of

there was a lot of like computer engineers that worked really hard on that autopilot thing so that should take over yeah that should take over and if it doesn't well you know

program I've done my part yeah anyway where's that eject lever click anyway back to back to what I was gonna gonna get to Andy I was gonna get to him so he

interrupted me they've released a casting call for Avengers 4, which is not the one we're going to get next. That's 3. My agent hasn't said anything. Well, look, apparently there's... I mean, she mostly gets me ads, but... Do you want to talk about that?

No. That wasn't a segue into I want to talk about ads. No, no. I'd like to speak about my son for a little bit. No, I'm sorry. Continue. I am glad you guys are here because we needed the dad perspective

when we talk about it to the movie. But also because James Mr. Sunday Movies is a dad but he also hates all other dads. So I'm glad you're here now because otherwise there would have been sparks. There'd be a dad down. There'd be a dad but he also hates all other dads yeah so i'm glad you're here now because otherwise there would have been there would have been sparks there'd be there'd be a dad down there'd be a dad off yeah and and to be honest it takes two dads to to make up one mr sunday movies that's

true yeah i actually have uh two kids so i am actually two dads he's a double dad so really we've got three dads in here plus you i got i got dad i'm a potential dad you're a double dad. So really we've got three dads in here. Plus you. I've got dad to spare. I'm a potential dad. You're a potential dad, which means in a way you have an infinity amount of potential kids. And I feel like the infinity amount of imaginary kids makes up one kid. I know that there's a lot of sperm in a man's balls. But I don't think that there's an infinity amount of sperm. I think it's close enough.

Even, even, even masons. No. Substantial testicles. Substantial testicles have abound in the physical universe

in terms of the number of sperms that they contain and can produce. I think a lifetime's worth of sperm is close enough to infinity sperm

that, that mathematicians, if you were to write that down, a quantity of sperm on the ground, they go, that equals infinity. See, Al, glass half full of sperm. Andy, half empty. Yeah.

Well, it's an infinite glass. Oh, no. There are three types of infinity, right? There's the countable infinity, which is all the integers. There's the uncountable infinity, which is all the numbers in between all the numbers right and then there's just a really disgusting and inconvenient to count infinity so which is like where you're like well i can't be bothered counting all of mason's possible sperm i'll just say that it's it's infinity anyway i'm glad that we i'm glad that we continued on that topic and i felt i'd already

pushed it too far but andy got real mathematical with it that's i mean we want a conclusion to it you know so i think bless you andy yeah you're welcome anyway avengers forecasting call uh do you uh do you appear to be a bald 30 to 40 year old black man with a goatee because you could potentially get literally so you have the character descriptions of who they're looking for. We have some of them, yeah. And do you know who those characters correspond to? Can you work it out?

This is... Because that sounds like a young Nick Fury to me. Well, this is a casting for a double. So this is... Yeah, it's bald African American between 30 and 50, chest size of 38 to 40. I don't know what.

Do you know the chest sizes of everyone in the Marvel Cinematic Universe? Yes, I do. Let's go. Here we go. Oh, Chris Hemsworth, like a beautiful barrel. Anyway, the ideal candidate must be bald and have a goatee or facial hair that you're willing to cut into a goatee to match the actor. be bald and have a goatee or facial hair that you're willing to cut into a goatee to match the actor so uh i my speculation might be it might be a young nick few we might have a we might have a

flashback whoa flashback sequence what do you reckon about that uh look i would i would love to see that happen um you know maybe him at college oh sure yeah yeah or you know maybe kind of just finish in high school maybe Maybe he's driving a Cadillac. But wouldn't you rather say... So the Marvel movies recently have been doing a lot of de-aging. Well, I guess they map out the current actor's face and then they get a whole bunch of old footage of them from back in the day and then they sort of map it over

and it's looking pretty good. So weird. We had Kurt Russell in The Last Guardians of the Galaxy pretty good. We had a pretty flawless Michael Douglas in Ant-Man look pretty good. So weird. We had Kurt Russell in The Last Guardians of the Galaxy pretty good. We had a pretty flawless Michael Douglas in Ant-Man look pretty good. So would you like to see like a young Samuel L. Jackson

pasted over current Samuel L. Jackson? I'd like to see it if it just occasionally glitched into like doing a few lines from Pulp Fiction. That'd be really good. I'd enjoy that. I think the first movie

that he ever did was he played like a like a heroin junkie or a cocaine junkieie or crack junkie or something like that. And I would love them to go all the way back to maybe like getting footage from that where he's kind of, he's a bit shaky and he's desperate. And, you know, desperate Nick Fury before he kind of had responsibility. I think it was pre-Coming to America. Yeah, I don't think so. So this is back when he was just Nick Angsty.

Yeah. Nick Desperate and Frustrated. Nick, I'm not sure what he's doing with his life. Yeah. I'll be with you in a moment, guys. Yeah, no problem. Just continue spinning, guys. You guys are very good.

I was going to say, it would be great if maybe like the the sort of the marvel universe uh like the the operation that produces it if instead of like developing this technology to de-age actors on screen if they could just find a way to de-age actors because i think there's a lot of money in the in the film industry like that and i feel like they are at the moment possibly our best chance at just actual eternal life. So what you're saying is we start de-aging some famous people and eventually the technology trickles down to us.

It will trickle down, like trickle-down economics, which definitely works. It's always worked, right? Yeah. I like this idea of like it doesn't normally work this way where we have some new technology, so we test it on the most famous and successful people in the world before anyone else gets it. I mean, usually they do it like secretly in a gulag somewhere in Russia.

But I think that if we can all see the very first experiments in de-aging technology taking place on our cinema screens. But I think also celebrities would be right for it. If you tell them it's the latest piece of beautifying technology absolutely if you say it's the new

bone broth wow it's just stock it's the new bone broth that's right there's new bones that's right I mean I think

the first person first person you could actually test it on would probably be Stan Lee yeah you know he's the guy you want to kind of keep around.

He's got to keep making them cameos. Well, they've filmed like the last 20. They've already made all the cameos? Yeah, I think so. They just get them in. And I like to think that they just filmed the last one and they're like, okay, we're done on set with Stan Lee. Okay, bye, Stan.

Bye, mate. We won't need you for a while. There's actually like a real deep sadness to that bye. They just close a very heavy studio door behind him and it just closes with a clunk. And then he's out in an alley and then a newspaper blows down the street and he turns around and there's no one there.

That's a wrap on Stan. And then the wall, he turns around the door where the wall was. The wall where the door was is just all brick. It's just all brick. Where did it go? It's a wrap on Stan. And then the wall, he turns around the door where the wall was. The wall where the door was is just all brick. It's just all brick. Where did it go? It's gone forever. Was it ever even there?

That's right. Yeah. In that scenario, Stanley is senile. It's a happy little thought experiment there. Isn't it though? No, but we're looking at flesh experiments. That's where we were going. Hey, speaking of flesh experiments.

Yes, let's get interesting. No, actually. Who wants shots? This is just the last piece of news here. The Mummy finishes its box office run with $407 million worldwide. Now, is that good or not? I don't know. That sounds like a lot for a movie that I'm pretty sure everyone saw the trailer

and said there's no way we need to see that film. Yeah, right? Like that's incredible to me. Well, it only grossed $80 million in the US, which is apparent. So every time we talk about it, every time James comes at me on this show with a box office total, I don't know if it's good or not. He'll be like, that movie made $100 million. And I'm like, all right.

And he's like, that's good for that kind of thing. And I'm like, oh. So $80 million is very much a disappointment. But it's made $320 plus million in foreign territories. I wonder if, was it something that was pitched in that way anyway? Like, was that always sort of the plan? I think now a lot of movies are pitched that way. That's why a lot of movies now, the plots don't make sense.

Because it doesn't matter. In foreign countries. Yes, that's what I'm saying. That's precisely what I'm... Apparently, there's been some executive chat in various production offices and movie studios, and they say, you know if you if you take it to a you know a country where the primary uh language isn't english and people watch the movie they go well it didn't make any sense but maybe it's a translation issue so we'll just

wow yeah okay but they still get us go and spend hundreds of millions of dollars seeing film after film after film in which they just assume, well, once again, they've skimped on the translators, didn't understand a fucking thing that happened. Well, I mean, we do that. So, like, I watch all of these terrible movies and none of them have made any sense. I continue to do so.

I blame it on the translators, even when it's in English. Or you go, well, you know, it's been made for other countries. Exactly. It's the perfect crime. You know, making sense is just kind of a Western ideal. Well, if they're going to do that, they should put that up as a screen right at the very start of the movie after, please switch off your phones. And then please be aware that this was made for a multinational audience. And, you know, they blame a lot of stuff in translators.

And therefore, you're all getting the shaft. You're welcome. See you next time as well, you idiots. Hey, get ready for some satire. There we go. Please switch off your phone. Then they go, please switch off your brain. Bam!

Oh, God, it's all gone. All of us. You got all of us. All of us dead. Yeah, I wonder how well the mummy did in Egypt. That's a really good question. Do you think they're like, I want to see the mummy did in Egypt. That's a really good question. Do you think they're like, I want to see what they think happened here? Well, I mean, when a movie goes down under, do we tend to like that?

I think pretty much we're just excited that anyone knows we exist. That is my general feeling about it. It's my cultural cringe feeling is that we're that pathetic that we love it, and it's on my personal self-awareness that I am that pathetic that I love it. So I'm pretty sure that's – The only one – the only exception, and I think as a nation we've turned around on it, was when The Simpsons came to Australia. I remember everyone hated it.

Everybody was like, this is a slap in the face to Australian culture. But now we go Australian culture and we do the quote marks around it. And I think we all love it now. Well, I think now that has become Australian culture. We've said, we'll take that actually. Let's kick them in the bum with a boot. It turns out that that's just the culture that Australia says that it has. And that's why, even though Australians don't really believe it,

America just goes, oh yeah, that's what you guys say you are, and therefore you are. We only have ourselves. I remember the time the Planeteers came to Australia. Oh, yes. Australian accents in that were really bad. Really bad.

They were in the outback experimenting on dingoes. I'm going to give you something here that you might not be aware of. Is it going to be more of your famous satire? It's more of my famous satire. It's, I think maybe Australian accents are just bad. Yeah, yeah. Oh, the Australian accents were bad and that.

Yeah. Anyway, I don't know. It's just when a mirror is brought up to us. That's right. Yeah. Oh, it's my classic satire. If you bring a mirror up to an accent, you get fog. And then you know you're still alive.

In the shape of Australia. That's right. You know, an accent is a lot like a vampire. It doesn't have a reflection. Fuck. This guy's good. But it does have a breath of fog. Nice.

I have one more piece of news. Oh, great. Okay, so here we go. Some might say I'm just going through the news on the wonderful comic book movie.com and they'd be right well it's a great it's a great website

don't give away all your secrets okay so 20th Century Fox has hired Drew Goddard to direct and write the upcoming

X-Force movie so Drew Goddard you're going to have to explain all the words in that sentence I thought I might have to so Drew Goddard directed

sorry he wrote The Martian do you remember that oh yeah Matt Damon's The Martian Okay, sure. I thought I might have to. So Drew Goddard directed... Sorry, he wrote The Martian. Do you remember that? Oh, yeah. Matt Damon's The Martian. A popular film. It was a delightful feel-good film, in my opinion. I had a good time with that.

So he's going to direct X-Force, which is, think of the X-Men, but like cooler and more extreme. And they do the missions that the X-Men are too sissy to take on so they're like the special forces yeah exactly yeah so if it gives you any indication deadpool is going to be on the team so wow yeah right i know how you feel about dead the funniest the funniest x-men character of them all and so if if say the x-men were asked to go kill osama bin laden uh-huh then they would go no thank you and they would send x-force to go do itama bin Laden, then they would go, no thank you,

and they would send X-Force to go do it. Yes, most likely. Yeah. I mean, they'd probably have to employ an X-Man that can bring Osama bin Laden back to life and then kill him again. But the X-Force would have that kind of X-Man, right? They have a necromancer of some sort?

Yeah, I imagine they've got a necromancer, sure. Are there any X-Men that are just wizards? Like, you know, his mutation is that he's a wizard? Well, the Scarlet Witch. So have you seen Avengers Age of Ultron? I have not seen Age of Ultron, I apologize. In Age of Ultron, there's a character called the Scarlet Witch. Yeah.

She's technically not a mutant in that movie because Marvel don't have the rights to their own character. Marvel don't have the rights to the X-Men in the Marvel Universe on screen, so she's just something else. But anyway. In the Marvel Cinematic Universe, does Marvel have rights to the X-Men characters?

Or is it only in this universe that they don't? Because could they have a movie within the movie in which they use those characters? In the Marvel Universe itself, I believe there is a Marvel offices like, offices that produces Marvel comics. So I would assume it's a bit, because sometimes they'll go in, like, back in the 60s, they'd go in and be like, it's me, Stan Lee in the Marvel, you know. So I would imagine in that sense, there would be a Marvel offices in the Marvel Cinematic Universe that does have the rights to all the characters, including the X-Men. But they can't say it on screen because everybody would get sued.

But anyway, Scarlet Witch, she's the daughter of Magneto. Oh. Magneto Powers. Anyway. Ian McKellen. She has a very vague ability to change probability, to make things happen. Right.

And it's so vague that it's just been expanded to be like, yeah, her mutant ability is she can do magic now. So she's like Felix the Cat. She's like Felix the Cat. She's got a magic bag. Yeah, she's just got a magic bag. Yeah. The juggernauts attack of the city put him in the magic bag.

It's over the magic bag really wide. My mutation is that I have a magic bag. This is my problem with the X-Men universe is that there's, for me, there's a clear distinction between the X-Men that are plausible and the X-Men universe, is that for me there's a clear distinction between the X-Men that are plausible and the X-Men that are implausible. Correct. And that should be the division,

not like Magneto's guys and Professor X's guys. It should be the plausible ones versus the implausible ones. So like Wolverine. Yeah, plausible. He's got some claws. It's plausible. It's more or less plausible. He's a Wolverine. Yeah, plausible. He's got some claws. It's plausible. It's more or less plausible. Yeah.

He's a claws man. But Cyclops, infinite energy coming out of his eyes. No, no, no. That's just silly. Silly. Yeah. But it'd be great to hook up. And I don't know if any of you...

It would be great to hook up. It would be great. I've got some flesh experiments that I'd like to try. But, I mean, if you could just sort of tie Cyclops down and just make him look into like a nuclear reactor and just get his eyes. Or even a solar panel. Yeah, exactly. Or just put it up against the boiler, like shoot his eyes towards a boiler, run some water through there.

That'll run a turbine. You could run all of America. Well, technically it's a force beam, not a heat beam. So you could just, you could skip the boiler. You could just have a turbine. Oh, you could just make it turn. Yeah, great. Or you could use them on a sort of old steamboat. You could use them on a heat beam. So you could just skip the boiler. You could just have a turbine. Oh, you could just make it turn. Just spin the turbine. Yeah, great. Or you could use them on a sort of old steamboat.

You could use them on a steamboat. Turn those paddles, yeah. Just, yeah, like just tie them to your steamboat. Or even a paddle, like a foot pedal boat. See, mutants can be productive members of society. Just tie them to some sort of old-timey method of transportation. I feel they won't have a problem with this. Anyway, I'm just, if they're looking for directions to go

that it's outside of the comic books, they don't have enough ideas in there. Yeah, I think you started messing with the furniture in the universe, Alistair. Not allowed. In the Airbnb. You're out, mate. There's a laminated sign that specifically says

you can't tie Cyclops to a bench. Use him to power a boat. Are they going to keep my bond? That's right. They're going to keep my bond? That's right. They're going to keep your bond. All right. Well, that's all the news, I think. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London.

One woman has a secret. The other, a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+. Should we talk about the movie It? Now, James is overseas in Hollywood, having a protein shake with Hollywood Hulk Hogan or something, whatever he's doing. And so I said to you guys, hey, do you want to go see It?

And Al, you said, there's a session at midday. And I went, oh, thank God. Because I'm a real fraidy cat. And I wanted to see it at the... I assumed you were fine. I picture you as a real big brave man. And I went in as a real scared... I wish we'd been up front with each other before the movie about exactly how scared we were.

Because I was terrified. Well, this has brought us together then, I feel. This is going to bring us together. Yeah. A little bit of honesty, you know. In 30 years' time, we'll come back and we'll... Yeah. I was scared that I was going to be scared.

But then I watched most of the old one last night. You both watched the old one, right? Yeah. And you watched watched most of the old one last night. You both watched the old one, right? Yeah. And you watched the entirety of the old one this morning. This morning. So that actually did help me a lot because I know it has as much of a happy ending as you can possibly have

when an unknown number of children have died. And it's a lot. Yeah. First thing I would say is that it's probably top 10 films about children being killed. Oh, sure, yeah. It's also, name nine more that you love.

There's a cheeky little reference to Nightmare on Elm Street 5. In this new version. In this new version, yeah. See that up on the screen. That's a series of movies about children being murdered and molested. So that's a series of movies about children being murdered and molested. So that's fun. Sure. Do you know, Mason, if this was a thing that was in train?

Like was this remake always going to happen before Stranger Things came out? I actually don't know. Because I would be interested to know if the two things are connected in any way. I would also be interested to know if it's connected to, remember last year there was that clown outbreak? Yeah. There was that mad clown outbreak. There was a clown spree that happened all around the world. People were just like, I'm going to fucking terrify some people on a train. I'm going to dress up as a clown and walk slowly down the aisle.

I'm just going to have an oily machete and stand near a park. It's going to be great. Behind a bush or in sort of like in the field or my only clown experience and it's not technically a clown experience but it was in that time period and i've mentioned this on the show before but we've got new listeners and people have probably forgotten that new year's a couple of years ago it was about a it was a super super boiling hot day it was about 40 degrees celsius yes and i went past went past a hotel in Richmond that was having some New Year's celebrations. There were people lining up at the front.

And there was a man out the front. And he was dressed in head-to-toe Hessian sack, but tied up with rope. Like a kind of Resident Evil, like an oily Hessian sack. When you say head-to-toe, you mean head covered as well. Yeah, head covered with a sack on it. No eye holes, no nothing. And he was just standing there, like looking out onto the road. And he had, in each hand, he had, without exaggeration,

he had a chain in each hand that went down to the ground. And at the end of each chain was like a burning piece of fabric. And he was just sort of casually whipping these flaming chains about. You know, that's not a clown. That's not a clown story. Yeah. Unless you've been brought up on some really weird clowns. But, oh, man.

Yeah. It's odd. And then I went back later and he was gone. So I assume he had been taken away by the police. Or he'd gone into a sewer. I don't know. Or he just caught fire, right? Hesham, I imagine, is a pretty flammable material

for a guy who's got just some flames he's whipping around. I guess it is scary to think that under that bag he also had his face painted as a clown. That's true. It could have been painted as anything. Yeah. Because, I mean, if you want to be terrifying... He could have been a blackface.

Yeah. I mean, that is terrifying because you think that at some point, you know, if you're walking around like that, there's going to be a couple of teenagers that are not scared of you

who are going to go, I'm going to pull off this guy's mask. And if you have a second layer of terror already painted on your face. Yeah. Yeah.

Or an indication of systemic racism. Either of those. Both of which are terrifying. Yeah, I find that to be very scary. Even more than that, I just find the complacency of modern Australia that we can still allow that Both of which are terrifying. Yeah, I find that to be very scary. Even more than that, I just find the

complacency of modern Australia, we can still allow that kind of thing to happen. That's what I find terrifying. Me too. Apathy of the youth.

Also being hit by a chain that's on fire. Oh yeah? That's the top, actually. That's number one. Fire chains. So anyway, James

always asks, I've just remembered James always asked me to say to people what the story is What is the story So it's the 80s It's the late 80s In this movie

It's a time of Riding your bikes In tandem In the summer time With all your friends It's a time for Bullies Driving their bloody

Driving their Corvettes Down the street And it's the town of Derry And all sorts of children Are going missing Who is it It's a clown Spoiler alert Who done it? It's a clown.

Spoiler alert. Who done it? Clown done it. Clown done it. The scary clown that just stands around in daylight. That's an interesting thing about this movie and the old one as well. It's like one of the only horror movies that I've seen where you see the monster in daylight a lot. And I guess we'll talk about this.

We'll do a little non-spoilery review. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then we'll get into spoilers. This movie shows Pennywise the clown, the evil clown, straight away. Yeah. You get it immediately. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like we see it's in the trailer.

This is not really a spoiler. But we see little Georgie in his little yellow raincoat. He pops down. He runs a little boat down the street in the rain. Sail, sail, sail. And it pops down to the sewer grate, and we see it straight away, and it's just there. We're like, surprise.

And I felt that, oh, well, this has kind of ruined it. They don't know what they're doing here. I've seen it now. Who cares? But it was working the whole movie. Oh, yeah, yeah. I was consistently scared, but I will say that the clown itself, that manifestation of the It creature is the one that I find the least scary.

The new one. Yeah, because you know what it can do. No, just when he is the clown because he takes on other forms as well, right? But the clown one is the one that I'm like, it's almost reassuring. You know, he's just the clown. He's got some big teeth. I know his deal. I know what he looks like.

He has these kind of like, he has those like multiple layers of teeth that he can expose. Sort of like he's a prehistoric worm. Like one of those prehistoric worms that looks like it just sucks onto some glass, if there was prehistoric glass. Maybe some lightning struck some prehistoric beach. Right, it just sucks onto some glass if there was prehistoric glass maybe some lightning struck some prehistoric beach right it's obsidian yeah yeah like that and so so so that suggests that that he's not of this time but the makeup is very modern well i mean certainly of the last century yeah um it doesn't it doesn't run which is a modern feature of a lot of makeup i think if it was older makeup, it probably would have run in the heat,

especially with that level of exertion. It's colour state. And hanging out in so many sewers. I'd be interested, from a cosmetics point of view, I think a lot of people who use makeup would be interested to know, where did he get that? Maybe he's born with it. Yeah.

Maybe he's born with it. Maybe it's Pennywise So apparently Stephen King came up with the idea for Pennywise the Clown After asking himself what scared children more than anything else in the world Which he felt was clowns What do you guys think? Are you afraid of clowns generally in the world? I'm afraid of the people who play clowns

More than I am afraid of clowns Yeah, I think I'm afraid of somebody making the life decision to become a clown. Right. And I'm afraid that that could maybe one day happen to me. As somebody who works in the comedy world, I find that's a bit terrifying. Yeah. Al, you were saying you're going to be dressed as a gorilla. Wait, a bear.

You're going to be dressed as a bear. Yeah, for a birthday, for my child's second birthday, I'm going to dress up as a bear. But it's mostly going to... But, okay, so that's one kid who's going to grow up not scared of clowns primarily. Yeah. Possibly more bears. And I think that's a useful fear to have. Yeah.

You know, you're walking through the woods, you see a creature. I mean, I guess same thing. If you're walking through the woods, you see a clown, you should probably run or play dead. Yeah. Yeah. So I guess, okay, I guess in both ways they're useful skills. I also think happy clowns are scarier than sad clowns. a clown you should probably yeah uh run or play play dead i think yeah yeah so i guess okay i guess in both ways they're useful skills i also think happy clowns are scarier than sad clowns do you guys know puddles yeah of puddles pity party he's like he's like a singing clown and

he's like seven foot two or something enormous but he is not scary because he's sad but it's but i feel ultimately it's the scary part of a happy, scary clown is that they're happy for no reason. As an adult now, I'm like, why are you so happy? Why are you? That's very much the Joker thing, isn't it? Like the Batman Joker-y guy. He's like, this isn't an enjoyable scenario.

There's a lot of bad things happening and you are emotionally not responding to this in the correct way, which could be a primal thing, right? Like that could be a primal instinct in humans. Is that like in a stressful scenario, somebody who isn't acting in the way that we would expect them to act, that is a red flag that they are not quite right. You're in a sewer. You should be unhappy. Yeah, that be unhappy yeah why are you smiling man i have got so many questions about the sewer design of this small town right like they have got one of the most epic and by the way it's not sewers

it's stormwater drains i'm pretty sure that's a stormwater drain system. But it is such an epic stormwater drain system. Yeah, for a town of like 600 people. Yeah. Yeah. And for Pennywise to be standing in that stormwater drain while it's raining quite heavily at the beginning there, that is a very dangerous thing to do. I mean, that's basically the main situation in which you don't want to be standing in a stormwater dream because that's where all the water's going. Absolutely. So what would your reaction have been if they'd been a little more realistic and he drowned?

Pennywise the Clown drowned. Early on in the movie. He's like, hey, kid, you want your boat back? I'll let go. To be honest. The newspaper the next day is just dead clown found in a stormwater system. Boy did nothing. Heartless boy.

Georgie turns into the villain of this thing. Look at him with his two arms and his little yellow raincoat. I feel this movie, some of it was quite visceral, and yet some of it was kind of toothless, I guess. So having just watched the old version, are you interested in comparisons? Sure, yeah, absolutely. Having just watched the old version, this one had much more actual gore, right? Right, uh-huh.

The old version had a lot of blood oozing out of things. It had those kind of creepy kind of stuff. But this one had actual physical, like, you're going to see one had actual physical like you're gonna see people get cut you're gonna see people get a bit chopped you're gonna get see people get hurt a lot more than in the old one where if the blood was coming out of somewhere it was a sink not a man okay so here's a question then we're seeing people getting chopped we're seeing people getting sliced in both in in the old one and the new one, do you care about the characters? Because I feel I did. I thought they were quite –

Oh, yeah. Even though in this current one, even though a lot of them only have like a small amount of setup to establish their characters, I very much cared about what was going to happen to them. You've got all the stereotypical characters. You've got the leader. You've got the fat one. Yes.

You've got the annoying've got the leader you've got the fat one yes you've got the annoying one with the glasses but even the annoying one with the glasses i didn't want him to die so i i feel like this movie sort of set down enough heart that i'm like i like all these guys and i'm you know i hope none of them meet a horrible grisly end yeah yeah i i felt i felt that way yeah it was definitely sort of uh sort of much more of like the kind of teen movie that I would have watched back, you know, like when I was 11 or 12 or something like that, like a stand-by-me kind of situation. It's very much stand-by-me meets it. This movie meets it and then stand-by-me goes away

because it's just it, isn't it? Yeah. This movie also did have a very, it felt to me like it had a very Amblin entertainment kind of, they very much went, okay, let's look at all the old movies from the 80s and just give this one a bit of the old look of the 80s pain to it. Bit of that veneer. Bit of that bouncy little piano score that an E.T. would have. The child actors were fantastic.

Yeah, great. And they were really good in the old one as well. But in the old one, there's the older actors and the child actors, and the child actors in the old one, I reckon, were better than the adult actors. And I think the writing for the comedy one, so like it's Seth Green in the old one.

Yeah, I was wondering if that was Seth Green. Yeah, it's Seth Green in the old one, I'm pretty sure. Because I saw it in the credits before it started, and then I was like, oh, there's Seth Green. Yeah, right. Yeah, so it's Seth Green in the old one, and it's some kid with glasses in the new one. But his writing in the new one, first of all, is way edgier. And way more accurate to what kids would be making jokes about. Yeah. And it was not it was not

it wasn't sanitized for now. Like they didn't go, okay, well all the things kids said in the 80s are a little problematic now so we won't say them anymore. They were like, that's how they talked. Let's throw in an R word and an F word. I think they definitely sanitized the racism. The racism was much more full on

in the old one. Okay, right. Yeah. I don't think that was much more full on in the old one. Okay, right. I don't think that was nearly as big a thing in this one. I think they threw around the J word a little bit more in the old one. Jesus. Jesus, yeah. What he was. But yeah, and look, and I have to admit

what struck me straight away is that the old one was scary in how bad the filmmaking was. And the new one really improved on that immensely. I thought, personally, I thought the filmmaking in the old one was still pretty good. Like, you mean in terms of the way the story is structured? Yeah, well, I think even just the whole feel of it, and maybe it's just older movies, but it just felt like it was made for TV. We're allowed to say old movies are bad. All old movies are very bad.

I very much believe that. I feel like perhaps it's that we get used to all the tropes of older movies, and then we go, okay, well, this is going to happen, and this is going to happen, and this is going to happen, and so who cares? We were speaking earlier, I only saw The Exorcist as an adult, and it is very funny. Oh, wow.

It's just, it's, oh, it's the little girl, her head's spinning around and she's saying bad words. It's very, it's very funny. Yeah, me and Andy have spoken about this, about I tried to go back and watch Metropolis, saying bad words it's very it's very funny yeah me and andy have spoken about this about uh i tried to go back and watch metropolis which is always like near the top of these kind of lists of like you know the best movies ever made and things like that and you and you watch it and you go it's so slow it's so awful it looks terrible it sounds terrible and like and somehow

you've absorbed every aspect like you've seen this story a thousand times. Yeah, right. Like in, you know, maybe it's all just through The Simpsons or like, you know, you've absorbed it through all like all the other little stories of, from, you know, film nerds who have basically mimicked these stories

in order to make their films, things like that. And you just watch it and you go, this is awful. And so we're going to create a book, which is a thousand amazing films that you don't need to watch before you die before you die yeah or even after even after just just chuck it on your

chuck it on your gravestone yeah just check the film on your gravestone just throw a dvd at my gravestone yeah they um yeah i think i think that's it the old the further you go back the worse the films are and you more recently, films are better. And they probably only really got good in the last couple of months. I agree. Yep. Yeah, Dunkirk was pretty good. Pretty good, liked that one, yeah.

This was definitely better than the old ones. Yeah, like, oh, wow, they're really hitting their stride. I'm glad we stuck with this film thing because, to be honest, I thought it was a bust. Yeah. You know? Every week, like, the head of MGM, he's got, like, his finger over his butt just to self-destruct. thing because uh to be honest i thought it was a bust yeah you know every every week like this just ahead of mgm he's got like his finger over his butt just to self-destruct he's like every

morning he's like give it another day he watches a few rushes and he looks at the button for a while just sinks hollywood into the i'm gonna say i was not scared by the movie. Like, the clown didn't scare me. Okay, there's definitely some jump out moments. Yeah, right. Right? But for most of the sort of scary parts, and I'm doing that in inverted commas, I feel like I'm just watching it going, I understand that this is supposed to be a scary scene. Yeah. But I felt like it's kind of just happening. Like, there's not that much tension.

I think maybe we're sort of we're sort of over jump scares because we're expecting them so much i thought there was some sort of effective maybe like longer jump scares where there's the jump and then you expect it to cut to black or something else and then we see we see more of the terrifying class coming out yeah i did feel this uh a long sense of like i felt at a certain point sort of through the second act, I just felt this constant sort of feeling of tension because it's one of those movies where anything can turn into a deadly weapon at any moment. Yeah, I felt a lot of tension. Like if you're, you know, you could be holding a tape measure and I'm like, oh, what if the tape measure snaps back and it cuts somebody's thumb off? Well, that's just the reality with tape measures. I guess that's true, yeah.

It's just a building site is a dangerous place and you need to know how to use your tools, mate. Exactly. That's right. That's the message. Because there was a lot of tension for me with that tape measure. And I think if there was a whole horror film based around tape measures that it snaps back

but then it kind of cuts the inside of your hand because you've been you were holding on to it and then that gets infected yeah or you know and then you reopen the sore on the wound on another tape measure exactly yeah or you just set square you just need to measure a room by yourself that is already quite horrific yeah right see the interesting thing is that this movie and the old one as well, it's like, I'm trying to work out how much of it is a metaphor, right? Yeah, right. Because on the surface, it seems like it's very much, oh, no, this isn't a metaphor. This isn't like a creepy, there's terror that lurks in the people around you. This is a, oh, no, it's actually a magical being.

That's the scary thing is a magical monster is what you're supposed to be scared of. And then it sort of went back and forth in the sense of like, oh, but actually everybody's dealing with personal issues. Right. So maybe that's a metaphor and they seem to see in Pennywise something that they're concerned about. But then further in it's then like, oh, but it's just a clown again.

No, but it is a clown. It is definitely a clown. It is actually also a clown. And some characters had their personal issues got much more serious than other people's. Yeah, whoa. Some, you know, we'll get to it in a second, but some were like, you know, these life-changing problems.

And some were just like, my mum won't let me out after seven o'clock or whatever. My dad wants me to read a second but some some were like you know these these life-changing problems and some were just like my mom won't let me out after seven o'clock or whatever my dad wants me to read a book yeah exactly yeah i'm pretty sure one guy was just afraid of a painting yeah yeah that was true yeah yeah there was there was no mention of what that painting represented he feared he feared uh the future and and becoming a man of Of course. And a painting. Okay, but that is an interesting thing. And I don't know if I can talk about the old movie without... Am I allowed to talk about the old movie? You know what?

So here on the podcast, our rating system, you guys might know, it's only best movie ever or worst movie ever because there's no nuance on the internet. So do you guys want to give it a best movie ever or worst movie ever? I'm going to say best movie ever. Really? Yeah. I enjoyed it a lot. I had worst movie ever? I'm going to say best movie ever. Really? Yeah. Okay.

I had a good time. Andy? I'd say best movie ever. Look, because there were so many moments through it where I was like. I'm hearing some nuance. Yeah. Because there were so many moments where I was like, come on, like that. I'm going to have to go worst movie ever. But you can't say that because you thought the old one was worse.

By definition. No, no, it's fine. There's also no logic to this. Look, I'm going to go worst movie ever. And also, I think that gives this a nice balance. Yeah, I think so too. Two on one. That's balanced.

That's right. All right, it's spoiler time, guys. Okay, great. What do you want to crack into? So the old movie, old it right the guy who uh who has the least scary backstory is the one who deals with it the worst right so he's the one who when they have to go back to the village kills himself right so that's an interesting thing in terms of like i i don't know if that's in there deliberately but like that's a comment on resilience or like you know your childhood experiences inform your ability to cope with things as in the future but these kids who've

had fucking terrible lives they've got uh more resilience as a result yeah right the shit that's happened so that are you saying that it's kind of it reminds you a bit of ayn rand could be because yeah it's it's interesting that you know one you know the the the token girl of Could be Ayn Randian Ayn Randian situation Yeah Ayn Randian Okay Because yeah It's interesting that You know One You know The token girl of the team

You know Has a father Who's clearly got some sort of Weird Weird Sexy Sex Not good

Situation Not good thing And you know She Did we deal with that Well I felt like we dealt with that Really well just then Yeah I think that was really good

I think we covered that off in a sensitive and intelligent way. Because I was worried about bringing this up, but I'm really happy now that we did it so well. We'll just spring it off and people are going to have a good time. It's going to be great. And she kills him. Did she kill him? I mean, she hit him pretty hard in the head.

That doesn't happen in the old movie. And I was interested by that because they definitely amped up her story, made it more explicit in this one. And then, obviously, the consequences for him were... Yeah, because later one of the other kids comes back and he's just there in a pool of blood. And I don't think he's moving. He was twitching a little.

Could have been twitching. I reckon... Okay, the big spoiler for this is that this is just the first of two movies. Yeah, apparently, yeah. Because the old one, Alistair, you had the observation that when are they going to stop introducing new characters? Yeah, so I only got to see two-thirds of the first movie because I started falling asleep last night. And then I didn't have time today. And my phone broke.

Anyway, the important thing... Enough with your excuses. I didn't see it at all. I committed to one or the other. But it was an hour and a half, and I got to about an hour and five minutes, and they were still introducing the characters. Yeah, because they run both timelines simultaneously in the old one, right?

It's a bit of the past, and then it's a bit in the present, and then a bit of the past, and then a bit in the present. And each time they introduce a new character. It's a bit more like Lost. And each time they introduce a new character. It's a bit more like Lost. Maybe Lost was actually based off the old It movie. And so they introduce a character, and then this is like, oh, here's his episode where you find out his backstory.

And then there's a polar bear. Yeah. I think that happened in Lost. Is it too late for Lost references? But then this movie, it's like they've been like, well, that's bad filmmaking. Obviously, classic error in the editing room there.

They've jumbled it all up. I'll just sort that out into chronological order. There you go. Makes a lot more sense now. But they've only given us the prehistory bit. So this is all set in the past.

Yeah, right. When they're young kids. And then it ends after the first time they kill the thing. Yes. And I definitely think right now, I mean, like, I don't know whether the second one's already in the works. It has to be.

I mean, yeah, but, you know, it could be like a hip hop music video they put to be continued at the end. Yeah, that's right. And then Puffy never comes back. Yeah, and then there's no Puffy. Right. So I guess the same thing could be for Pennywise. Right. But, yeah, I definitely think it's way cleaner just seeing the original getting rid of the clown.

Yeah, it did seem... It also... Look, I enjoyed it, but it did seem a tad too long. It was a touch long for me. Yeah, well, imagine how I felt sitting there the whole time having watched the thing this morning. Yeah. And being like, are they going to go and do all the fucking future bit now? Yeah, right?

Because it ends with end of chapter one. Yeah. And you're like, oh, thank God. Okay, how did you guys feel about the final battle between the kids and Pennywise? Because I thought it was a little anticlimactic only in the sense that they beat him by just hitting him with sticks for a bit.

Yeah, man. Why didn't anyone try that before? And it was a real, like, let's beat the shit out of this clown. Yeah, right. You don't often see that scene in in movies i'm thinking like maybe there was one in um in the death proof that um oh yeah they just they they get him out of the car and they just beat the shit out of him a magic clown yes yes there was a clown and then then another clown comes out of the car

another 40 minutes of beating up clowns. I mean, that's a Jackie Chan movie right there. That's right. But yeah, it's just like for a movie that's all about facing your demons and finally understanding them and coming to terms with them and all that sort of stuff, I just thought it was a little bit odd that at the end they just went, oh, just hit him with sticks. Why has that never worked before?

Surely somebody would have gotten in a lucky shot in the last 27 years absolutely in the old one though like and that's I reckon is a by virtue maybe of the way films work these days

but also by virtue of the fact that they've turned it into these two movies they needed to have a big fight scene at the end right in the old one

it's just an emotional struggle for them to go down there and then they shoot him in the head with a thing right and he just gets injured and goes down a hole and then they shoot him in the head with a thing, right? And he just gets injured and goes down a hole, and then he comes back later on. But because that's not the end of the movie, that's enough, right?

Because it keeps on going. But in this one, we're going to end it here. It's got to be something big. Well, let's have him hit him for 10 minutes. Let's have all the kids do parkour on this clown and beat him up. Yeah, I think I find it so strange that this magical creature who can shapeshift and things like that does respond to beatings. Like a bullet through the head or a big spike through the head and things like that does have an effect on him. So I think that, to me, didn't really sit well.

And then he ends up dying but is it is he dying because they're not afraid of him his whole source of power is their fear and so yeah maybe they're they're beating on him is just a metaphor it was a metaphor i also i was a little confused by that it felt to me at the end that maybe there were a couple of expository lines that were left on the cutting room floor because at the end he's like well I can just leave if you all leave I'm going to eat this kid and then he won't see me again for 27 years

and then he doesn't eat the kid for the next three minutes and then he dissolves and I'm like well did he you know when you're really hungry? yeah I think Al gets like this, like when you're super hungry and you're just like, I can't function anymore.

I need food right now. Just dissolved. Or forget about it. It felt to me like it was missing a line where they're like, okay, if he doesn't eat in the next five minutes. But he's also been catching heaps of kids and eating them. Yeah. And also making a lot of them float.

Yeah. One thing that I enjoyed was when the new kid in town, he kisses the girl and she wakes up. And then I'm like, is he going to have to do that to all the kids? Is there going to be a scene after the credits where he has to drag all the kids out of the floating thing and just kiss them all to wake them up?

Is it just me or is that a tiny bit problematic? Yeah. Like kissing unconscious girls? Well, apparently the novel is a lot weirder. Sure. But he wrote that on cocaine and it was a different time. It's very true. But this is, well, they've said it in the past, right?

Today's rules still apply in terms of I got questions. He didn't know that was going to wake her up. He was just kissing an unconscious girl. And look, it's a tough situation, though. At this point, you think that somebody's maybe died and you're going to try anything. Obviously, first you say, hey, are you there? Second, you hug them.

Then you kiss them on the mouth. That's essentially CPR. Doctor ABC, danger response, kiss on the lips, airway, breathing, circulation. The next step was going to be CPR. He was going to get her down, just start doing like, stay alive, stay alive. That's the rate.

I'm just making sure. Yeah, I guess it would, in a way, it's kind of morally wrong that he didn't get down all the kids and start kissing them to bring them back to life. Because they said, oh, the kids are coming down, but then... Yeah, we didn't see what, are they all rotten or something when they get down? Is Georgie up there as he bled out? Yeah, what happened? Because he was, were the kids corpses or was just Georgie a corpse?

I don't know. Because that kid was shot right in the head. But he was also it. Yeah. So he was masquerading, it was masquerading as a kid, so I guess Georgie is still in there. Yeah, he was still in the head but he was also it yeah so he was masquerading it was masquerading as a kid so i guess georgie is still in the yes he was still in the sky and yeah i gotta say that that that thing at the beginning the scene with georgie where he bites off the arm yes uh that i was like because that was like you know this is a familiar scene this is you've definitely seen this in the old movie it's exactly the same scene um but then they're like by the way we're not

fucking around in this yeah right like you didn't you didn't see the blood from that you didn't see that happen in the old one and this one is like oh no you're gonna see a kid with his arm ripped off crawling crying across like drive the road yeah yeah this ain't your grandma's it movie yeah and i mean like the in the first movie they do show that scene. Like, they see the girl, see the Pennywise, and then it's implied that she dies, but you do see her taken away in a stretcher. And, like, a kid in a body bag is pretty intense. It's almost as intense as somebody getting their arm bitten off. Maybe it's just speaking as a father. There we go, finally.

Finally some real insights. Gosh. As a father, do you think, finally. Finally some real insights. Gosh. As a father, do you think kids should have their arms ripped off? Because, you know, I think a lot of people who aren't fathers probably don't have a strong opinion on the issue. No, I wouldn't. I don't care. Yeah, the other, if I'm honest.

He's just sitting over there looking at his phone. I'm looking at gifs of kids having their arms ripped off and laughing. Laughing. Laughing like it's the funniest thing in the world. Yeah, I think that in the middle of the film there was like they they went back one few too many times just for everybody to get scared again like for each of the characters to get scared again that like they probably could have trimmed about 15 minutes at least of the movie of like because it's like now they're all

getting scared alone now they're getting scared together and now they're getting scared a second time together i mean obviously right part of pennywise pennywise by the way pennywise would have been a great name for a hardware store like it's a real thrifty link true you know pennywise yeah anyway missed opportunity i reckon uh would you rather have an encounter with pennywise the demonic clown or thrifty link the demonic yeah i was gonna say or a massive fan of the punk band pennywise is with Pennywise the Demonic Clown. Or Thrifty Link the Demonic. Yeah, I was going to say, or a massive fan of the punk band Pennywise who's going to talk your ear off about all their albums. Oh, man. Bearing in mind, you can beat either of them to death.

If you really want to. Pennywise fans of the band, they also can be killed just by hitting them with a metal rod. They also feed off your fear. Yeah, well, see, that's the thing. So Pennywise, he obviously feeds off fear, right? Because he never just kills someone straight away. You've got to scare him a fair bit first.

Although, that being said, Georgie wasn't scared at the point at which he bit him. He was just being nice to him. I'm just confused about the logic of, like, how much you've got to scare the kids because there was a lot of time wasting in some of the scaring bits. If he wants to eat them, he could have just eaten them. I think he was scared in a general sense because he was scared that Billy wouldn't be mad at him about the boat. And he was also scared in a general sense of the clown, I think.

So just general anxiety can also feed on that. So like stock market down at Wall Street when the brokers have just – That right you know when the the numbers are going down he'd feast on those guys economic anxiety maybe maybe in the the next one uh if all the characters just take a whole bunch of xanax before before they fight it that is perfect generally they'll be okay just chillers and the message there is that recreational drug use will solve for your childhood trauma from mythical creatures yeah interesting um i i found it weird you know like that that that first time they go into that sort of you know the final boss house um at the the first time they go in when you kind of really find out that he feeds off of fear right and that you know and then they're

all as a group and they kind of fight him off for the first time. He gets a spike through the head. And then he kind of just starts backing away. Like he kind of still looks happy, but he's clearly just retreating. Yeah, right. Right?

And just, and then you kind of see him go down as well and things like that. And I think that moment comes across as just, I don't know, just a very, very,

like, I don't know. A bit weak? Yeah, it's a bit weak or it's like, it's like you go, he's still kind of smiling, but he's, very, like, I don't know. A bit weak? Yeah, it's a bit weak or it's like you go, he's still kind of smiling, but he's just like, okay, see you later. And it's not as, yeah, it definitely makes him come across as quite a weak character.

And also in his well, he has a second well in which he goes into. That's true, he does. Maybe there's another well in that. Yeah, and what would that well have been used for? The well within the well. Yeah, like if that well was filled with water, how could you go down there and go get more water? That's true. Out of yet another well. Yeah.

And would you get your water from a well? Or would you just dig another regular sized well in a place where there's sort of an aquifer or whatever? And no clowns. And no clowns, yeah. These are all good questions. Aren't they? We're not going to answer them. The other big issue with this... Okay, here's an interesting factoid

That people might notice I'm ready The old It movie It's every 30 years Right It comes back But this one they said every 27 years Why did they say that?

Because the old It movie came out in 1990 And this is 27 years since that thing I love a fun little It's a fun little A little nugget At the time when I noticed it I was like Why isn't it 30? Because they said 30 in the old one 90 and this is 27 years since that thing. I love a fun little little nod. At the time when I noticed it, I was like, why isn't it 30? Because they said 30 in the old one. And they were like, ah.

They also might be implying that they're going to make another one of these movies in 27 years. And also potentially that Pennywise is responsible for the 27 Club. Kurt Cobain. Alanis Morissette. No, no, no.

Somebody's got to tell her management. 27 Club. Wow. Kurt Cobain. Alanis Morissette. No, no, no. Yes. Somebody's got to tell her management. I mean, Janis Joplin. You've got to stop dragging her out, guys. She is long gone. Well, she finished. I think she's touring at the moment, touring Australia. But she was really finished at 27.

Wow. Azio's going to hear this and you are going to get called in for a meeting. Oh, man. Do Azio listen to Weekly Planet? I wouldn't be surprised if somebody did. They probably have an algorithm that listens to it. Yeah. They listen for Alanis Morissette and Alistair Tremblay-Virtual is going to kill Alanis Morissette.

That particular phrase. Those are clear keywords that it feels like they had to pre-program. They had to sort of predict it. I wonder how many of your viewing statistics are just various secret intelligence organizations' algorithms downloading. Do secret intelligence algorithms buy movement watches? That's my question. Gosh, I hope so. Yeah.

We'd all do well out of that, wouldn't we? I mean, we get a lot of downloads from vans parked outside our house. I've been checking the locations on Libsyn. It just says Libsyn again. The downloads are coming from within our house. Yeah. I've been checking the locations on Libsyn. Just as we listen again. The downloads are coming from within the house. The children! The children are listening to your podcast. Oh, delightful.

Which is nice, yeah. It's kind of important, Dan. The other thing, obviously, about this, right, is that this takes place... We'll see how obvious it is. The old one took place in 1950 and 1980s, right? Yep. So, and then this one takes place in the 1980s, right?

But if they're going to make another one in 27 years, it will not work because then this time now will have to be the past. Yep. And in this past, kids do not spend that much time out alone on the streets. Oh, there's some satire for you. Yes, thank you.

Saving it up. I've been sitting on that for a while. But it is like, not even from a satire point of view, it's just amazing to see kids just out like that. Imagine seeing more than one person on a bike together and then not wearing weird cycling uniform. Just two children riding bicycles for fun. Can you imagine it?

I can't. Not in this day and age. They're inside playing computer games. Computer games. Yes. What if they're Pokemon Going? Oh, there you go. Wow. So in the next It, the kids will be out playing Pokemon Go. In 2016, 17. It's actually

really, really good. And surely by then it'll be a playing Pokemon Go. In 2016, 17. It's actually really, really good. Yeah. And surely by then... And then it'll be a cultural touchstone. We'll be like, ah, I remember that reference. Yes. Yeah. But that's the thing is that video games do keep you away from sewers. You know?

That's true. But I mean... Unless there's a good Charizard down there. There could be a Charizard down there. That's the natural habitat of the Charizard. Or if you're playing Mario Brothers. Mario Brothers. Yeah, you're always going into sewers there.

Actually, from Pennywise's point of view, Pokemon Go would be really, I imagine, quite good. Could he hack into it? Well, in the next one, Pennywise will be a hacker that hacks into Pokemon Go to lure kids down sewers. He already hacks reality. So I reckon a video game is part of reality. He already essentially has unlimited power.

Now I want to see the scene where he's at his computer. Yeah. And the numbers are going down the screen. Yeah. He's got Twitter bots and he's luring children. The scariest part in the oldest film, at least the part that I'd seen, was just when he opens up the old photo album of Georgie

and it's just that grey photo of Georgie and he like winks or something like that. Yeah, a little wink. That was definitely the scariest thing for me in the old It. And in the new It, they cut that. They cut what could have been the best spook. I know in like comedies, you're looking for a laugh, but in the... You're looking for a spook.

You're looking for a spook. A spook-a-duke. Yeah, it's a spook-a-duke. Other than that, like a lot of it was very similar. Like I was particularly aware that it's like, it's really like, it's the same movie. I mean, it's half of the movie, but it's really the same. So if you were a big fan of the original, would you recommend people see this one? Yeah, I think so.

If you've never seen either of them, would you recommend they see the new one or the old one? Yeah, go see the new one. No, see the old one, because then at least you're watching a cultural touchstone right like you're watching a thing that was and also it's not as scary because it's the past you know okay yeah interesting yeah no i would just say watch the new one because it's just it's more tolerable you know you won't fall asleep at an hour and five minutes in yeah and and like the at least the the spook technology you know like it's because you know like like you're saying we're predicting jump out scares yeah and so people are get are are kind of getting clever and it's a

like they're double faking it yeah there's a lot of double takes there's a lot of scary double yeah it's like yeah this it's like this is where the spook should be and then they go oh no there's no smoke and then you turn around like that or you know there's like a third level to that so it was it was really excruciating watching the movie with this guy he's always like but then like that that just paves the way forward for horror movies to be just like extra levels of no that's not the spook oh no but that's not the spook that's not the spook oh that's the spook and like in 20 years time there's like 18 fake spook. Oh no, but that's not the spook. That's not the spook. Oh, that's the spook. And like in 20 years time, there's like 18 fake spooks before you get to the spook.

Yeah. But then the year after that, it's just back to regular spook. Oh wow. Yeah. That'd be great actually, because people that wouldn't even tune in until about spook 15 or something. You get them.

Would you, would you enjoy a movie that's just two hours of double take potential spooks and you never actually get one and at the end of the movie you go well that was weird and i'm feeling really tense and then you leave the cinema and then like a cinema employee is like hey look i would definitely go see that movie or at least that employee you leave the cinema and the cinema employee says, your car's been towed. Yeah, as an adult, I feel if they really want to grip me with a sense of dread from minute one, it would be the first scene of the movie,

like somebody gets a letter and it reveals that they've forgotten to pay their car registration. And I'd spend the whole movie going, oh God, has it been a year or more than a year? They don't give you the sticker anymore. Do I have $800 to spend on this right now? Yeah. Oh, that would be terrifying.

Or just finding out you've lost your driver's license and you have to go through the whole, like, I've got to find my birth certificate and all that kind of crap.

You have to go down to the, whatever the, your local thing where you go register your, you know, you get it. Yeah. The DMV.

We say the DMV because Australians translate automatically. Yeah, great. Yeah, we're really good. But they don't have a clue what the RACV is or whatever the thing is. Neither do you, apparently. Yeah, that's the wrong thing, but whatever. Vic Rhodes. The UAI?

I think that the... You're thinking of the United Arab Emirates. That's not what we get. That's not what we get our driver's license. In fact, many people can't get their driver's license there. Got to go down to the UAE to renew my boat license. Abu Dhabi. For me, the scariest thing in the old movie was the low quality of the guy's stand-up set on Carson

or whatever he was doing. Oh, my God. Oh, is there? Yeah, there's a stand-up comedy set that is bafflingly bad. Yeah. And it goes really well for him in the thing. We're supposed to think, oh, wow, that guy's at the top of his game. Oh, interesting.

It is the worst. Yeah. So you guys are both stand up comedians. Yeah, more or less. If you were not a stand upup comic would you think it was good no there is no way yeah i think it's like it's that classic like in a film where you was like you know somebody kind of goes and then i said look at that beard on that woman like that kind of thing and then everybody laughs but it's like that but with multiple lines but imagine a

beard on a woman see pretty good yeah, it's working for me. Speaking of beards, just quickly, when you are watching the Yet movie, watch out for Nick Mason's cameo. Make a little cameo. There is a,

like I want to say, a 30-foot statue of Nick Mason in the movie, which I thought was really nice of them to do that for you. That was nice, yeah. They actually personalize it live

for one person. One lucky winner in every screening. That that's a that's beautiful statue of them in the town square um so because you know how like when when a doctor watches a movie about medicine and they go oh that's inaccurate that's makes no sense or what have you so you're saying just just as a layman would be like that's it that's a terrible this would be like if you watched a movie about medicine and the person comes into the operating theater and the doctor is hitting them with a hammer. Yeah. I actually would love to find a way to play it. I guess this is a YouTube video you can make to play it and then try to build from those pieces that they show you what the whole stand-up set would be so that it would make sense.

Because he is getting huge laughs from a studio audience, which aren't known for being the easiest crowds either, with lines that make near to no sense. So you don't see the whole thing, you just see snippets? Yeah, you just see a little minute snippet, and that's the aged Seth Green in that movie. And in the movie, in the modern version, instead of that, we get little snippets, which I quite like. Little snippets of some sort of child's show, which implied that it was telling people to jump down in the sewers and meet their death.

That was fun. That's a bit creepy. That was super fun, I thought. Yeah, that's fun. It was a nice addition. That also, Pennywise also controls the TV networks. He controls the media. Where he hacked in. Yeah, he hacked in. Oh, okay. You've laid some

groundwork. Okay, that's pretty good. Alright, have we talked about it enough? I think we have. We've talked about it enough. You tell me. Let's go to our next segment, the famous segment, what we read and what we're going to read. And then we pause and then James inserts a theme song.

I'm doing the thing what are we reading today and we've heard the theme song and it's been a delight unless he forgets wow yeah so so in this in our famous segment uh we uh do you guys have anything you've been watching or reading or listening to that you'd recommend? You guys all have cool things. I've been listening to the Malcolm Gladwell's Revisionist History podcast. Oh, yes. He's been talking a lot about civil rights, and it's very interesting. And it makes you feel bad about a lot of stuff in the old history. Well, that sounds unpleasant.

Yeah. I'm not going to listen to it. Okay. No, it's amazing. Also, he's got a funny voice. Does he really? Yeah, he really sounds like he takes himself seriously. I love it.

I see, right. Yeah. He's all about 10,000 hours of something, right? Yeah, that was his big thing. And Alistair and I reference that a lot. Because we only have about two references that we know. And we use them constantly. It's that and the Buddha.

How much time is 10,000 hours? Well, it's 10,000 of a unit of time that we call an hour. Oh, that makes a lot of sense. I'm familiar with hours. It's like 10 hours a day for about 500 days, I think. I'm not sure exactly. It's like 10 hours a day for about 500 days, I think. Huh. Yeah. I'm not sure.

So it's the movie 500 Days of Summer is based on that. Yeah. No, it's 500 Days of Summer multiplied by 27 hours. Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So meet Zooey Deschanel, cut your arm off.

Yeah, exactly. And then get broken up with by a boulder. Something like that. I love it. I didn't quite. Look, I almost exclusively at the moment just watch stand-up because I feel like it's the only way I can hide away. Like just get half an hour or whatever.

So I watch the stand-ups on Netflix. There's a lot. For a while, there was like one a week, right? There was a new one every week. Yeah, and they're still doing pretty much that because they just have such a back catalog. But the other thing that I've been listening to a lot of is my friend,

internet celebrity Beck Petraeus. Oh, yes. And our other friend, Jack Drew's podcast, Friendship Mates podcast Friendship Mates it's a problem solving podcast where they'll answer questions and give advice whatever advice you need answered

there you go, and it's recorded in this very studio it is recorded in this very studio I'm probably absorbing some residual ass warmth from one or both of them probably both they share one cheek each on the seat. On one seat. That's how good a person they are.

How connected they are. How close they are. They're very connected through asses. Through their asses. Well, anyway. What have you been listening to? Speaking of Netflix, the new season of BoJack Horseman is out. It's out today.

I stopped watching after the second season. Why did you do that? Too depressing? How is the third season? Yeah, it was pretty... It's also depressing. It was like the end of the second season. It was beautiful.

There was this amazing scene with him driving on the boat back to town. That's right, yeah. I was like, that is so beautiful, but I can't watch this anymore. Yeah, that's fair enough. Do you think you'll get back into it? No. I don't look back. I will read the synopsis on Wikipedia, that's fair enough. Do you think you'll get back into it? No. I don't look back.

I will read the synopsis on Wikipedia and that'll be enough for me. Look, I'll watch a couple of episodes of this new one and I'll get back to you. I mean, he's due for a... They're all due for a... A lift? A lift of some sort, aren't they? Something's got to come good. Yeah, I think so. That's true.

He's going to lose an arm. Oh, man. A hoof. A wing. Yeah. It's a reference to our podcast. Is he a Pegasus? He's a Pegasi.

No. I haven't seen any BoJack. It's pretty good. It's been fun. It's Will Arnett as the voice of BoJack. Yeah, right. It's good. The first two seasons were amazing.

All I know about it is that the writer of BoJack Horseman at one point went on some kind of Twitter story. People go into there and they start writing stories. It was a big story about how Marge Simpson doesn't have any friends. Okay. And he was just

looking at the Simpsons and said that she's dedicated entirely to her family. Like, look, he's managed to make the Simpsons sad. See what he's done?

He's taken a cartoon series that everyone likes and then made it unwatchably sad. Well done. It's his season two all over it unwatchably sad. Well done. This is season two all over again. Signature move. Good work.

Yeah. Raphael Bob Waksberg or whatever your name is. Yeah, good. Yeah, awesome. Get into that. Yeah. All right. We've got another segment.

We've got one more segment. Oh, yeah, great. It's called Letters. And what we do, I don't know if you're aware, James refuses to edit in the letters theme every week. He's done with themes at this point, so I have to play it from my phone. Is it him singing that theme? Because it sounds a bit like it could be his voice.

You probably haven't even heard it. No, it's someone from the internet. Oh, wow, because it sounds... They've sung it in James's voice, I feel like. Which I think is a really nice touch of that. Like a chameleon, but for voice. But anyway, so normally I have some time pressure to do that. James is on my back about it.

But now I can take all the time I need. Yeah. So we'll just sit here in silence. So you can do this in comfort. We have really low expectations. I'm on 4G, guys. So it should go fairly briskly. Let's see what happens.

It's thinking. I've clicked it. Oh, this is going to be so good when it happens. Really? The classic one was letters, oh letters. We love you, some letters. They're only a day my way. We're going to hear it right now.

We're going to do letters. That. We're going to do that as... That's really great. And I love that you play it from YouTube. Yeah, so if I have no connection, I'm rather stuck. Yeah, that's great. You should put it up on Spotify so that you can download it onto your phone.

Yeah, that would be a really good point. And then you can also get listens, and that'll probably start bringing in some nice sweet pennies I should be clear we're all thanks to Claire from Planet Broadcasting

we're all on Spotify we don't get any money for that oh I was wondering no never okay well that's good to know we'll never get any money yeah right

so anyway this is from Julio Vargas if you want to email in you can email weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com if you want to say hi you can also say hi

on Twitter if you'd like this is from Julio Vargas he's from Puerto Rico and he just saw It he says it's the best remake he's ever seen wow

would you agree guys? I mean it's putting me on the spot I had to think of other remakes that I've seen that's right I'll finish the rest of the letter great acting

great visuals and tone visual effects not so much he says unfortunately I had to see it dubbed in Spanish so I might have lost some of the essence of the film. Do you guys enjoy dubbed films or would you rather see it in the original language?

Dub or sub, babies? I would probably, I'm a sub guy. Yeah, I think if it's like anime, I like just hearing that in English because I just want to watch it. I don't know, there's some, I think maybe now dubs are better but there's some there's some stuff that i saw like there's a lot of anime from like the 80s

and the 90s which is considered you know classics like akira and ghost in the shell and these kind of things where i saw it at the time dubbed and going back to it i'm like this is the some of the worst dubbing i've ever heard in my life. It's just so clunky and it's so, they've had to squeeze in, they've just clearly directly translated and just squeezed it in wherever they could find it. And so it's really weirdly placed. But mostly like a lot of anime, the mouths are just sort of

flapping holes, right? Yeah, yeah. So like it doesn't really matter that much. You just try and say something while the hole flaps. But it's also kind of like it's kind of... A lot of the time the acting's kind of flat because it was just like a job at the time. Somebody reading it out.

Okay, say the lines and get out kind of thing. We've got more to do. We've got Voltron to do in a minute, so if you could just... It's crazy to think they're still making anime. Like, they're still making it, right? Yeah, absolutely. It's this whole universe of content that I'm not even touching. And there's more than I could ever.

They're probably making more every year that I could watch in my lifetime. That's true. Look, if I can give you one recommendation, I'm not an anime guy at all. But one thing I really enjoyed, it's called One Punch Man. And it's about a superhero who trains so hard that now he's completely unbeatable. And now he's really depressed because he's unbeatable. It's kind of like the Bojack horseman yeah of kung fu but does his depression make him sort of put on weight and spend a lot of time at home and lose his tone so that he becomes beatable again

no that never happens he's just he's reached a peak and then it's sort of flip the switch and he'll never not be a pain that's not true there's no peak you can reach beyond which you can't then continue to destroy your body through neglect now luckily he's gonna age. There's no peak you can reach beyond which you can't then continue to destroy your body through neglect. Luckily, he's going to age and he's going to start getting beaten and then he's going to become happy again once he starts getting the shit kicked out of him. That's very true. You're right. Beat the happy into him. There's so much anime out there.

Is anime going to be the next comic books? Because at the moment, comic books are like, everyone was like, oh my God, there's this enormous resource of amazing stories that everybody loves. Let's turn some of them into films. And now that's every film. So is anime going to be the next one of those? We're sort of heading into that, but reactions so far have been mixed to poor.

Right. Like there was a Ghost in the Shell American remake. Which I didn't see. Well, that had Scarlett Johansson as Major Motoko Kusanagi. Interesting. So that was an interesting twist. They sort of tried to get around it. They were like, okay, she was originally Japanese

and then they put her into a Scarlett Johansson robot body. So they were like, we'll put her in the twist and nobody will mind. Oh, you got us. Good one. And there's an anime called Death Note, which was recently released, like an American version on Netflix. Oh, I've seen the picture of that.

Yeah, opinions are mixed on that. But there's always some – the issue is often that it's Japanese characters and they port them over to America and they just whitewash the whole cast and there's always some issues there. But there were quite a few comic book movies sort of bubbling away before this latest thing hit, right? So it'll probably be the same thing. Someone will get one right.

Yeah, finally. On for young and old. It's kind of like communism, you know? It's not until you see somebody do it right that people will start believing in it. That's very true. And we're big communists here on the Weekly Client. Yeah, absolutely. Sorry, James, but this is now a communist podcast. That's very true. And we're big communists here on the Weekly Planet. Yeah, absolutely. Sorry, James, but this is now a communist podcast.

That's right. In your absence, there's been a coup. To each a movement watch according to his needs. But, you know, just for James' peace of mind, I want you to know that this is a standalone podcast and it's not affecting the narrative of all the other Weekly Planet podcasts. Here's one of those for Harry's. Five blades good,

two blades bad. Very nice. Good work there. Let me see. Usually James finds some... Look, it doesn't matter. I'm just going to find a couple more letters. Oh yeah, great. And these porsels will be... Presumably left in. Dou letters. Oh, yeah, great. Yeah. And these porcelains will be?

Presumably left in. Doubled. Yeah, doubled in length sometimes. This is from Flaming Wolf. He's emailed in. What do you think about John Krasinski as Green Lantern? John Krasinski is Jim Halpert on The Office. Okay, yeah, right.

As the superhero Green Lantern. He's bigger than you'd think. Now, will this be their third crack at Green Lantern? This will be the second crack. Okay, right. Because there was a standalone with Ryan Reynolds, which was awful. Sorry.

I was going to say, my favourite part of that movie, there's a scene where he uses a giant green fist to punch just a random dude into space and he never comes back. He's just fighting some thugs in it, some drunk guys in a car park. Wow and he just wow he accidentally punches one with a green fist and he never comes down so we assume he went to space his head exploded and the second one was the gondry one was that with seth rogan oh yeah that's green hornet oh

okay i apologize what a fool that's a classic guest on the weekly planet mistake. What a faux pas. He lays that trap every single time. That's right. And people fall into it. I saw it. I saw that trap. I was like, I see what you're doing there, Mason.

You're bringing up the green films. Good sidestepping. The Green Mile, is that one of them? Yeah, that's one of them. Yeah, okay. See, Andy knows what he's talking about. Love that movie. Look, how do I feel about that? You don't have to feel anything you can feel nothing i think it's really interesting to have that guy play a

superhero yeah okay so that's my opinion yeah and look i have no opinion i didn't get a chance to watch uh to watch the office or this news that's okay yeah. Yeah. Does the Green Lantern, do you picture him to be a really athletic, toned, you know, what's the picture of the iconic Green Lantern for you? The iconic Green Lantern is a guy called Hal Jordan, who was like a plane test pilot. And he's like a fearless, like ex-Air Force man. fearless, like, ex-Air Force man. But here's the thing. Like, I think John Krasinski could achieve that look because he's big and he's broad. And, like, if you don't give him such a dopey haircut.

Is he going to look at the camera a lot? That's what I want to know. Are we going to see him react to it? Like, whenever the bad guy makes some kind of a snarky joke about the fate of humanity. Is he going to then look at the camera and there's just going to be a pause? Yeah. A lot of green pranks around the office.

Just a green, just some sort of green laser turret in the photocopier. Pranks. Pranks. Love it. Yeah. What sort of a system do you have these letters filed under? Just random. Just the email inbox. Just the Gmail, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, great. Yeah. What are you using? Are you using Inbox or are you using Gmail? Using Gmail app. Yeah, Gmail app. Just the regular app. That's the one I use.

Yeah, I'm on the Inbox app now. I think it's better. Oh, yeah. Really? Yeah, just a little bit of a cleaner interface, a little bit easier. Is it also made by Google? Yeah, it's better. Oh, yeah. Really? Yeah, just a little bit of a cleaner interface, a little bit easier. Is it also made by Google? Yeah, it's Google.

It's their thing as well. So I'm still within the Google universe. Right. Yeah, right. Can I just transfer over my Gmails too? Absolutely. Should I do it now? I'll do it now.

Yeah, okay. Okay, I'll talk you through it. Just install the app. Okay. Let's see. Are they mostly just obscene photographs? Oh, absolutely, yeah. This one says 10 lusty ways of getting your groove back. It might be spam.

No! Lusty ways. You know, that's a sin, lust. Yeah. But getting your groove back is a virtue. Yeah, that's true groove back is a virtue. Yeah, that's true. It's very true.

So, you know, I guess it's about, you know, you've got to travel through mud in order to get to, I don't know, what's something that's better than mud? This is from Joshua Taylor from the UK. He wants to know, he watched a movie called Origin of Evil, which is set in the 60s and filmed like it's in the 60s, so the picture has like flickerer spots and it has the technique. What do you think is that as an idea?

Do you think more films could use this technique, depending on the era they're set in? I think that is a bad idea. That just brings to mind the early 2000s when people were making student films and they would use that iMovie filter thing that made it look like an old movie with those lines that go across the screen and that sepia tone. And it just like, I've made those movies.

It feels like a bad idea to me. Yeah, I think, look, I think it's a great desire. But I think it's going to make films hugely more expensive because film is super expensive. Yes, that's true. It's super expensive and it's not as easy to edit and all that kind of garbage. But have they made it for real on the old film stock or have they just made it digitally? I think they've made it digitally. Ouija, Orange, Rune of Evil is like uh i think it's like a

like a found footage horror film yeah so i think it'd be all right it's all after it's all adobe premiere and adding in the okay right i thought you were saying that they they like they found old cameras as well and they went and filmed it in like like like it was the exact same technology which i respect i think that's really cool sometimes that's been done. Like the TV series Firefly, a lot of that was filmed on sort of old 70s camera because it was meant to be like a Western in space. So they had to get sort of older cameras that you could get a real lens flare and stuff like that

because modern cameras were just too good. It'd be great if they also got the old cameraman and dragged them out and all these people and wheelchairs sort of rolling around oh yeah

and if they got and if they got those kind of old movie making sensibilities that made all the old movies so bad and why we don't want to watch them yeah right absolutely yeah bring out all of that stuff

they could just say their opinions at any moment and put it in the film well see I've often had this thought about, we spoke about Tarantino's Death Proof earlier in the show, that he made what was ostensibly like a 1970s kind of grindhouse exploitation film.

And it was meant to appear like a film from that era, but he put in the digital grain and all that sort of stuff. And it was also, he made it on a multi, multi, multi-million dollar budget, which I feel like I would much prefer to have him make a movie, like make him like a Sharknado or a Mega Shark versus Giant Octopus kind of thing. I'd give him a million bucks and say,

what can you make with this kind of thing yeah that would be that would be beautiful yeah because like just to see him like scrimping is that what we have to do yeah yeah scrimping but i think i feel like you would have to pay him a lot of money to get him to scrimp right exactly yeah here's a hundred million dollars you may use one of it the rest you can keep no cheating there should be more challenging directors yeah i agree like just like here you have a week to make a film with a million dollars you can use whoever you can afford for that money and uh and you got to use uh you got to use an old hagrid the horriblerible cartoons, storylines. That includes being able to afford the rights of Hagar the Horrible.

Hagar the Horrible. Sorry, Hagrid the Horrible is that version in Harry Potter films. It's what's in their newspapers. A movie that I saw that was made in that way was the movie No, which was about the democracy campaign in Chile in like the 70s. And it was all done. It was actually filmed with old VHS things and it just has come back to my mind.

And that was actually really cool. So I liked that one. So maybe I've changed my mind. Is there anybody in like a flying suit of armor or like a... Yeah, but it's a 70s flying suit of armor. Oh, I'm not interested. Oh, yeah. Yuck.

No, thank you. No. It's not like the sort of art. Oh, not interested. Oh, yeah. Yuck. No, thank you. No. It's not like the sort of the squirrel suits of these days. Like back in those days, they used to make it out of like chain mail. Chain mail. The 70s. What was the fabric in the 70s? Chain mail.

The Black Plague. They used to make it out of the Black Plague. The Black Plague and racism. Yeah. Pretty good. Oh, imagine something made out of the Black Plague and racism. That doesn't sound very good. Sounds like a horrible thing.

Anyway, that's the show for this week, I think. Guys, thanks for being on the show. Thank you so much. And helping me put it together. It was a real pleasure. What are you guys up to? What do you guys want to plug? Tell me about some stuff.

I'll tell you what I'd like to plug. I'd like to plug our podcast, Too in the Think Tank, which is going to have a very special guest very, very soon. Very soon. I think you'll like them. Yeah. It's Nick Mason. Well, you're wrong.

I don't like him. Oh, no. That's why I do all of this, because I don't like myself. Well, it's nice to keep talking just to keep yourself out of your head. That was a really it-level amount of suspense that we had just then. Alistair was like, who's it going to be? It's a killer clown. Here he is.

Look at him. Who's it going to be? It's Nick Mason. He actually appears in the movie It, so it's nice to kind of have that tie-in. Yeah, so that's basically what we'd like to plug, I think. Nice. Do you have any dates? Yeah.

Tour and dates? As part of the Fringe Festival, as part of the Melbourne Fringe Festival, so anybody in Melbourne, I'm me and Matt Stewart from Do Go On. Yeah. He's been on this podcast and I've been on his podcast. Well, God, are you hobnobbers. And he's been on your podcast. Yeah.

Look at you hob and knobs, left, right and center. That's right. Come on, stop hobbing him. Yeah. We're doing a show at Melbourne Fringe from the 13th to the 20th in North Melbourne. And it is called Al and Matt Go Havies. Very nice. And we're just splitting an hour stand up and talking to each other as well.

Can I, this is highly unorthodox, but can I plug my wife's show at the Fringe Festival? Yes, you may. She's doing a show called Pea Stick, which is a really, really funny one-woman musical play that she has written and is performing. There you go. Yes. What about you, Nick? Do you have anything you want to plug?

Nah. Nothing? I don't think so. Oh, that's Carly Milroy who's doing that play, by the way. I was going to say it's Carly Milroy. Carly Milroy, Pea Stick. All right. Very good.

You've got nothing there. Check it out on melbournefringe.com.au, a very bad website. One of the worst websites I've ever encountered. Yeah. I don't know. We're on planetfringe.com.au, a very bad website. One of the worst websites I've ever encountered. Yeah. I don't know. We're on planetbecasting.com. You want to check out all the sorts of stuff that's happening?

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It's a great podcast. Oh, yeah. Check out Do Go On and, you know, Two in the Think Tank and all the others. Yeah. Okay, that's very good. You guys are on the social medias? Yeah, I'm at AlistairTB on Twitter. I'm at StupidOldAndy and we are at 2intank.

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