The Weekly Planet - 204 Kingsman The Golden Circle is...

Episode Date: September 25, 2017

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Red hot comic book movie news Shooting up your butt hole Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Weekly Planet, official podcast of ComicBookMovie.com where we talk movies, comics, TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday. With me as always is my co-host, Nick Mason. More like welcome to you back. It is your back. Didn't miss a beat, Mason.

Mm-hmm. It's like a... Seamless. Yeah. I did less to you back. It is. You're back. Didn't miss a beat, Mason. It's like a- Seamless. Yeah. I did less mistakes now than I normally do. I know people know this. We did have an episode last week. Yes. Which was pre-recorded, but it was a good fun-

In front of a live studio audience. That's correct. Yes. Of my dog. Yes. But yeah, what was that on? A lot of canned laughter. A lot of canned laughter.

A lot of- When I made out with Andy and Al there was a woo woo I enjoyed the Andy and Al episode thank you

I enjoyed the movie It and I enjoyed your hot takes you've finally seen It I have finally seen It yes yeah there's a lot of things

I missed overseas Mason I've been flittering about yes I'll talk about it more in what to be reading you say you've been swanning about. Yeah, I'd say swanning about.

Galavanting about. Galavant, yes. Being a gadabout. Being a gadabout. Being a society patriot. Correct. All of those things. Yeah, because I did a movie fight

and some other stuff. I'll talk about it later if people are interested. Hey, here's something I'd like to talk about right off the bat. I thought you were going to say off the air.

Do you want me to pause this? If you could stop. So enough people have mentioned this to us on Twitter. Yeah. Most recently, Juan Fernando. There is a company in the US called Hotwire.com, and apparently you can use them to get good deals on a hotel or something. This isn't an ad, by the way.

No. This is a mad, if anything mad because i'm mad about it so a lot of people send us a still from a an ad yeah and it's a man in a suit with a big beard martin star on a couch yep next to a goat yes and there and the ad is about getting a good hotel deal but but... Or don't. Don't worry about it. Well, that's the thing. So initially I'm like, I saw this and I'm like, that's a funny coincidence. Yeah.

Because I'm depicted in the logo as a man in a suit with a beard. Yeah. And you're depicted as a goat. Yes. And I'm literally on a couch right now. I'm like, the coincidences keep adding up. So enough people mentioned it that eventually I just went, okay, well, I should check out this ad.

Sure, yeah. And I only checked it out after you well, I should check out this ad. Sure, yeah. And I only checked it out after you went, you should check this out. You should see this. But so the ad is, so yeah, it's Martin Starr. Yeah. Who I feel is not known for either wearing a suit or having a beard, except for-

No, he wears a beard in, what's it called? Spider-Man Homecoming. Yeah, and Silicon Valley. But he's got more long hair in that, yeah. He's more disheveled. He's more like short T-shirt over long T-shirt. Oh, okay. But I was going to say, I think maybe they're like,

hey, Martin, can you put on this suit? No reason. Can you keep your beard from Spider-Man Homecoming? No reason. Anyway, you're going to be dealing with this goat. Anyway, the point is that the whole premise of the ad is like, hey, book a hotel or don't, no pressure, do what you want. And at the end of all our episodes,

for the 1% of people who listen to any Planet Broadcasting podcast all the way to the end, at the end of all our episodes for the one percent of people who listen to any planet broadcasting podcast all the way to the end at the end we go hey why don't you go to planetbcasting.com or don't yeah no pressure or some variation on that yeah yeah it's real sus man do you think so do you think it's not a coincidence it's a lot of it's a lot of things it's a lot of let's see that's the thing like a friend of mine a stand-up comedian yeah who well i don't have any i don't have any normal friends sure i don't have any friends what about me i'm normal you're normalish thanks i checked your feet to see if you're wearing Ugg boots but you're not wearing you are wearing i am wearing Ugg boots they're black Ugg boots you tried to

trick me they're dark blue okay right anyway sorry go on My point is, he used to do a bit on stage that was about, like when you're about to do something dumb or say something dumb, all of time appears to slow down because, and you sort of watch yourself doing it while being powerless to stop it. Sure, yeah. And one of the act outs in the bit is like, he suggests a woman's pregnant and she's not.

And so he's like, are you pregnant or are you just fat? And it's very funny. But then somebody was like, hey, you should check out this ad. And it's just... His bit verbatim. It's that bit. Wow. For like, I don't know, insurance or something or health care or whatever.

And now he can't do the bit. Oh, because they'll be like, you took that from that ad. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, right. Fuck it up. So what I'm saying is we have to cancel the podcast. Oh, okay. Fair enough.

Can I change my avatar to a different animal? Can you shave your beard? No. Can we murder Martin Star? Yeah. Can we swap out the couches for a hammock no no you struck oil one suggestion ago with the murder of martin star okay good so we will do that everything should be fine yeah yeah hey if you did copy it fuck you if it's a coincidence hey

that happens yeah so take one of those options yep how do you copyright something like that though anyway you can't exactly that's right and anyway? You can't, I guess. Exactly, that's right. And also, I was like, we should go. We should go. You just come from America. Let's go back to America and confront them. But then I realized, well, A, I don't commonly wear a suit. I could do that.

But you're not a goat, man. No. So I'd be like, we'd show up at the hot wire offices. And we're like, hey, hey. Recognize us. Hey. Remember us? And they're like, what are hey. Recognize us. Hey. Remember us? And they're like, what are you even?

Get out of here. Hey. It's the, oh, wait. Oh, we're just going to go. Oh, we paid a lot for these flights. But we got a good deal on hotels. Boy, did we. Thanks to Hotwire.com.

Again, not an ad. No, not an ad. Speaking of not an ad, I guess. Good segue. Here we go. Sorry. By the way, it's 1. No, not an ad. Speaking of not an ad, I guess. Good segue. Here we go. Sorry. By the way, it's 1.30 in the morning for me. Not for you.

No. Jet lag, Mason. All right. What does it mean? We're well into this episode. We haven't started yet. There's a new Tomb Raider neck and trailer. Yes, right.

What do you think of the new Tomb Raider poster? Well, look, I'll give you a comparison here. Sure. So this is Alicia Vikander with the Tomb Raider poster. I see it. She's looking good. This is 3030, the robot mechanical horse from the cartoon series Brave Star. Do you notice the similarity?

My goodness. It's like looking into two mirrors. No, a picture next to it is a mirror. And that mirror is mirroring the picture. It's at an angle, so that's how I'm seeing it. What I'm saying is she's got a real crook neck. What is going on there? I don't know.

Somebody fixed it as well. Just shaved a bit off it and it looks twisted. It looks like in a horror movie where they find someone wedged in a cupboard and their neck is distorted. You know what I mean? To me, it looks like a real thick neck. Like she's really... Yeah.

Like she's... This is towards the end of the movie and she's had to do some acrobatics using her neck. Right. Yeah, I get you. Some vines or some tree trunks, for example. Yeah. So you weren't impressed by the poster necessarily?

No. Trailer looks good, though. Okay. All right, here we go. No, look, it looks like the game. It does look like that reboot game, which isn't a bad thing.

Because I did play the reboot game, but I don't really remember a lot. It's really good. It is really good, but I don't really remember a lot of the lead up. Is this a different lead up? Not really. They go to find a thing.

They go in the worst part of the ocean. But in the game, doesn't she go on the ship with her father? No her father's already dead. Already dead okay cool he was killed by a secret society or something I bet he's not dead I guarantee you he's not dead

because it's not some no name it's Dominic West from The Wire what always surprises me about movies like this is that she finds his camera and it's like a flip camcorder. Yeah, right. To me, they're not that old. But I guess they've been around for quite a while now, yeah.

Would you prefer that she finds his old gramophone? Yes, that's what I'm... And he's made some wax cylinder recordings on it. And she puts it on and it's like... My darling, Lara. I made the call last year. Lara, they're coming. I can't stay here much longer.

I made the call last year, the bold statement that either Warcraft or Assassin's Creed was going to break the mould of video game movies and one of those would just knock it out of the park. I haven't seen Assassin's Creed. I didn't see it either. Warcraft is, I didn't hate it, but it certainly didn't knock it out of the park i haven't seen assassin's creed i didn't say it either warcraft is i didn't hate it but it certainly didn't knock it out of the park i saw a copy of assassin's creed at the supermarket yeah and i thought where am i gonna find a dvd player these days you know i think i have one in a box played on your gramophone

but uh so i'm reluctant to say this looks amazing because it looks fine. It looks better than the last two. You know what it looked... Yeah, that's absolutely true. The last two were... Yeah, look, all I'll say is, with regards to the last couple, is any movie with a couple of mechanical robot dogs is a big pile of garbage.

That's what I will say. Yeah. I mean, that's foreshadowing for later on the episode. Oh, wow. There you go. But this new one, to me it looked like a great drama,

like a great action drama. It's got Walter Goggins. It does, yeah, from The Shield. Yes. Oh, maybe Dominic West and Walter Goggins are going to come.

It's going to be The Wire versus The Shield, the matchup I've always wanted. Yeah. One's better than the other. It's The Wire. Probably probably i haven't seen either anyway uh but anyway it looked like a pretty good like action drama up until the point she leaps off the ship yeah and then i'm like oh that's the video game that's well i'm filled with dread in the video game the ship is split in two and she's leaping across it but here just like she's looks like she's leaping into the ocean i

don't feel that's you could just pin drop i guess i don't feel like you need to take a jump like especially because the ship's not all the way down yeah you're not jumping at like a pit of snakes yeah you're just jumping into water yeah i just i don't maybe see maybe it's one of those ones where they haven't revealed the full danger in the trailer they're gonna cgi in a big snapping crocodile oh that's okay then yeah yeah but that but that's the point where i went oh there's it looked it looked quite real up until that point sure and then the cgi hit just at that moment and i'm like oh it also looked a little bit da vinci code i've got a treasure box that's true it's a secret code to unlock it it's probably my father's nickname for me or some shit sure you know You know, that kind of stuff. Yep. Yeah. Anyway, next thing.

My father's nickname for me, Rubik's Cube. The Punisher had a trailer. Yep. Oh, also I was going to say, what do you think about Nick Frost's inclusion as this guy? Oh, he's the Chris Barry role from... Yeah, I guess that's true. Do you think they've included him

because we are all so very cynical about video game adaptations now they're like that'll give it some cred absolutely potentially yeah anybody who plays a video game knows who nick frost is is that what you're saying i think so yeah okay good he must have done a video game voice at this point most certainly like a robot dog probably robot dog yeah ah the punisher also got a trailer it did looks really good maybe it's just the music but I was I was well on board with Metallica's one

was that it yes it is yeah yeah darkness and present I don't know darkness I don't know

darkness yep yeah so somebody at Disney had to sign off on that yeah that's right alright yeah just all the lyrics were written out as well yeah you had to sign off on that. Yeah, that's right. All right. All the lyrics were written out as well.

Yeah, you had to tick them off. No, what did you think, though? Yeah, it looks pretty good. Yeah? You're sceptical, though, because... Because Marvel's trailers are often better than their TV properties. Right. That's not always.

For Inhumans, that was not the case. That's true. But, no, sorry, I'm so tired. What was I going to say? No, I think it looks better than The Defenders and Iron Fist and Luke Cage. Okay, yeah. I feel like what they're going for, you know, I like the, I mean, they're doing more family stuff, I guess, a little bit,

but, you know, and there's going to be a conspiracy that's probably run by someone in a boardroom. I hope not. Let's see. Karen Page is in there. Yeah, good. Was Claire Temple in there? They're going to shoehorn her in somehow.

I think she's in this one. Okay, they'll find out. I don't know whether it's this one or the next one, but she's not in one of the upcoming ones. So this might be it. But probably. No sign of a minigun, which is a little disappointing for me. Do you think there'll be a minigun?

I think they're gonna I think maybe it's gonna be one of those situations where you know you play a video game and you stock up on all the missiles and the bombs

and the grenades and all the heavy weapons you need them but then you never use them and you finish the game and you're like I've got all these grenades and missiles

I think it's gonna be the same I think he's gonna there's gonna be a lot of scenes where he's like he looks over at their minigun and he's like better save it for later there might be an even bigger Russian dude coming in so I better There's going to be a lot of scenes where he's like, he looks over at their minigun and he's like, better save it for later.

There might be an even bigger Russian dude coming in. Yeah, that's right. I'll just leave it. And then at the end, he's killed, he's destroyed all the organized crime in New York. And he's like, I could have used that. God damn it. Would have made things a lot easier, actually.

I got punched so much. Yeah. Yeah. But no, I'm really looking forward to it. There's no concrete release date. The rumor was October 13th, which is like a bit over two weeks away. But apparently that's not- Really? That's quick.

No, that's not the case. Okay, then. It's more like mid-November-ish. That's still pretty soon. Yeah. Well, yeah, it's done. It's weird they haven't announced the release date yet. I don't know why they're kind of holding back on that.

I mean, but hey, whatever. I'll watch it. I'll watch some of it. You know what? I'll watch three. And if it's boring, I'll stop. Is it it a 13 again then yes we're back great yeah but if it's good hey whatever yeah speaking of things that are good no speaking of things that aren't good here we go it's not a segue is it no no the opposite is a segue excellent uh the inhumans

is maybe cancelled or it's not cancelled before it even airs. Terrific. What I forget is after we did that episode, most people have not seen Inhumans because the actual episode has not aired yet. Most people feel as though they've seen Inhumans because our review of it was so evocative. Such a hot take.

It was a very hot take. Yeah. That this bad show was bad. It's so bad. Not even that it was bad, that it was, they decided on a marketing tack of, we will force people to pay money to watch a bad thing that we must know full well is bad.

Yes. Well, they knew because they cut the run short. It was supposed to be two weeks and they went with one. Yeah, it's insanity that they put that on IMAX. It really is. I mean, it only created bad buzz as well. Who's fooled by IMAX? Who's like, yeah.

In this case, being on IMAX made it worse. If you're going to watch this, if you want it to look good, watch it on a phone or a smartwatch. then you might they could probably get away with it that's how they should watch it on a gramophone yeah that's how they should have promoted it though but you watch it on the small screen imaginable yeah or just the sound on a gramophone i think that would have the hype would have been better but we've gotten one of those street artists from thailand to etch it on a grain of rice the entire episode. Stare at it and imagine what it could be.

So one of the posters was promoting the series as the complete series, which led people to believe, oh, complete as in there will be only one and this is it and then it's cancelled forever. But AB said that they've used that quote like that's an old poster and that was always the case. That being said, it's cancelled forever. But AB said that they've used that quote, like that's an old poster and that was always the case. That being said, it's definitely cancelled. There's no way they're going to make a second series of this. What do you think?

Do you think it's possible? Because Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., I feel, started promising and it kept enough of a fan base along the way. And it got better, probably. No, I have to look i've i've i'm not up to date on that yeah i watched the first episode i enjoyed it a lot i watched some subsequent episodes it sort of fell into the toilet for me right i rubbished it but i am a manly enough man to admit that i have since watched some other episodes and they're actually

pretty good okay there you go except for those early ones which aren't as good. Sure. But anyway, it had a chance to find its feet. But I feel that anyone who wants to know our more extended thoughts on this, you can go back and listen to that episode. But to me, the plot of this show has sort of painted all the characters. The first couple of episodes have sort of painted all the characters into a corner. Yeah. I don't know if I've had this thought on the show but i've had it since it's like the the first two episodes the setting was not dissimilar to like a young adult dystopian fiction like novel yeah because you're put into a society like you're you were in a category yeah but like the it's a it's the way

it differs from like the hunger games is it's a series in which we're supposed to cheer for these uncaring elites who live in luxury uh and we're supposed to boo for the one guy who wants to get the downtrodden and like release them from their oppression it'd be like if you cheer for donald sutherland in the hunger game yeah exactly wouldn't it yeah and whoever was in charge of the maze running. Yeah, exactly. I don't know. Yeah.

You're absolutely right. And there's sort of no way to unpaint the characters from the corner. No. Because you can't have them go, oh, I didn't know we were oppressing, making these people live in the mines or whatever. Insane. It's insane.

Insane. See, I think I also said this in our review the inhumans is exactly why i don't full-on hate as much stuff as i probably should i guess like i when like the bad netflix episodes or movies i'm like on the inhumans is what i save it for sure because that inhumans reminds me that it's that there are worse stuff than a lot of stuff That we see Like it's bottom rung Sure right Yeah But apparently

The Inhumans comics right now Are the best they've ever been Well that That's disappointing Too bad Yeah right You know This poses the question

To me Marvel have handled Every character they've done So far Well enough where They haven't really needed To reboot it Except for maybe Hulk

I guess Because it's sort of a light reboot but the incredible hulk's not a terrible movie yeah it's more of a recast if they cancel this are they just not going to do them ever is that it these characters are gone because they are popular characters and like you said the comics that's true at the moment so dc are kind of leading towards flashpoint it looks like so they can swap some stuff out yeah is there going to be like a marvel version of that like if they want to bring them back i I feel DC are kind of leading towards Flashpoint, it looks like, so they can swap some stuff out. Yeah.

Is there going to be like a Marvel version of that? Like if they want to bring them back? I think if they want to bring them back, they will... They're all Skrulls. Exactly. Well, I think what they could do is they could just go, they could just bring, like if they wanted to bring them into, say, the movies or Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., they bring in whichever the characters people like the most. Yeah. They recast whoever they need to recast, and then they just kind of scrub it all in one line. They're like, what are you guys?

And they're like, we're the Inhuman Royal Family. We had some problems earlier. Slavery. Now everything's fine. Don't look. That's Black Bolt. Yeah. Hey, listen.

I got some stuff to say, all right? Yeah, it's bad. Here's something that might be good, I think. All right. It's bold. Taika Waititi is reportedly in talks to helm Akira. Oh, that's right. The live action Akira.

Who was going to be prior to this? Jemai Coletsera, I want to say. No, it was... Who directed Get Out? Was it Keo Peel? One of those guys. Yes. Oh, yeah.

Oh, you mean as in recently? Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was... Yeah, one of those guys. Jordan Peel, I want to say. Okay, there you go. Great.

I might be wrong. Yeah, what do you think about that? Okay, sounds good. Does it sound good? Yeah. Or does it sound great? Good. Yeah.

The thing about Taika Waititi is I love his films. I haven't seen Thor Ragnarok yet, so I don't know how he would go with it. Well, that's true. It seems good. It seems like a film that I'm going to enjoy, but we don't really know how he is at this kind of stuff yet. That's true. But I think he seems like a film that I'm going to enjoy, but we don't really know how he is at this kind of stuff yet. That's true.

But I think he seems like a solid choice. There is also that conversation of like, should they even adapt this? Because they just did Ghost in the Shell and was kind of whatever. And, you know, is it going to be a whitewashing situation? Because there was also a version, maybe the version I was talking about had, I think it was Chris Evans and Joseph Gordon-Levitt in the leads.

And there was also talks of... Dane DeHaan, maybe? Yeah, there was also talks of Zac Efron, I think it was Chris Evans and Joseph Gordon-Levitt in the leads. And there was also talks of... Dane DeHaan, maybe? Yeah, there was also talks of Zac Efron, I think, at one point. It was going to be Kaneda, I think. Yeah. Yeah, look, he's very square, isn't he? That's true. What if he Maori washes it?

He could Maori wash it, yeah. And it's set in Wellington. And it's just like a real small scale one. Yeah. Have you ever seen like late night in Australia, they often have like, it's like cops, but it's New Zealand. That's right. And everybody's really friendly.

Probably anyone gets tasered. Yeah, like people are really drunk, but it's okay. Yeah, that's right. They're like, off you go. They just give them a lift home. Yeah. But Mason, you've got a oh you've got a hot ragnarok scoop all right well i was no i was gonna say a perfect segue yeah we're into our favorite game on this on this podcast hot scoop or a shot of poop now for anybody who doesn't aware isn't aware of this game, what happens is... We need you to line up a scoop and a poop.

So one of us presents some exclusive news, some behind the scenes, a bit of something that we believe is maybe exclusive to this podcast. Maybe it's true, maybe it's not. That's the scoop. Yes. And then, if eventually later it turns out that this isn't true, James has to do a shot of poop. Wait, this is your scoop, by the way.

So why am I... Hey, man, I don't make the rules, all right? Yes, you do. What? You made this rule. Oh, okay, I kind of did. Anyway. Fine, I'll do it.

Great. For the podcast. All right. So speaking of Thor Ragnarok... Can I pick the poop? Yeah, I guess so, yeah. Okay, great. Yeah, good.

Terrific. Small mercies. Yeah. I guess so, yeah. Okay, great. Yeah, good. Terrific. Small mercies. So, spoilers for this. I would say I would not want to know this. Yeah. So, a friend of mine who I won't say- I'll time code it. So, if you want to skip it, go to the description.

Yeah, good idea. So, a friend of mine who I won't say specifically where he works because I think they could probably track down- Right. Marvel. Disney. Exactly, yeah. Yeah.

He's Taika Waititi's best friend. Oh. down right marvel exactly yeah yeah he's taika waititi's best friend oh anyway uh he told me that he's seen a significant portion of thor ragnarok sure so this isn't this this this isn't a plot spoiler no but it is still a it's a it's a cameo it's a cameo spoiler but it also spoils the location so if you don't know anything about thor ragnarok i guess there's a lot of build-up anyway so he tells me that there's a scene... We're in spoilers now. Yes.

There's a scene set on Asgard in which we watch an Asgardian theatre production that essentially recounts the entirety of Thor 1. It's very Shakespearean. Like as a play. Sure. And in this theatre piece, the role of Loki is played by an Asgardian actor

played by Matt Damon. Twist. What do you reckon about that? I like it a lot. Me too. What I don't like about it is that does this rule out Matt Damon being in the MCU? It kind of does.

Yeah. But do you think as an actor he's done with... Yeah, I don't think he would do it anyway, I guess. Yeah, like imagine being like, hey, Matt Damon, will you put on a weird rubber suit? But also, you could bring him back and just... Yeah, that's true. It's a different guy.

I mean, they have in the past. Yeah, exactly. There's a cop in Avengers who is a character in Agent Carter. Okay, cool. Yeah. Nice. So, you know. Yeah.

Yeah. No, I like it. If that's true, Mason. Yep. Or if I have to eat the poo. It's worth it, right? Like, what? No. Why would that be worth it? I like if that's true, Mason. Yep. Or if I have to eat the poo. It's worth it, right? Like what? No.

Why would that be worth it? I don't know. So this, so if it's not true, not my rules. All right. I don't like this. Yeah.

Well, no, but I, I do. No, I think that's, I think that's cool. I think,

yeah, it kind of reminds me of the, um, I think, yeah, it would definitely, you know, the,

the, the cameo that really caught me off guard. Yes. Was. Stan Lee. Stan Lee. As he kept doing it. No, was it Chris Evans in Thor Ragnarok?

That was a real delight. Not the Ragnarok, Thor the Dark World. That was a real delight. I feel like this is that kind of. Yeah, cool. Kind of level. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm into it. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, speaking of. Sure. Anyway, spoilers over. Yeah. Harry Dean Stanton died. Oh, yeah. Who. We were predicting who was going to die. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, speaking of. Sure. Anyway, spoilers over. Yeah. Harry Dean Stanton died.

Oh, yeah. Who? We were predicting who was going to die. Yeah, that's true. I said Jared Leto. You said. I said no one's going to die. Jared Butler, I think.

I don't remember. Didn't we say Katherine Heigl, Gerard Butler? Murder-suicide pact? That's exactly what was said, yes. I think that's precisely, yeah. Yeah. Like, we're never going to make anything better than the ugly truth. Here we go.

But yeah, so Harry Dean Stanton from Alien. Yeah. But he was also... He was in The Avengers. He was in The Avengers. He was in a bunch of stuff. As the guy who gives Mark Ruffalo a new pair of pants. Yes.

Where did he get them? I don't know. Did he take his own pants off? Maybe. Harry Dean Stanton was that kind of guy. He would, wouldn't he? Just a man wandering around without any pants on. How old was he? Do you know how old he was? 91 pants off? Maybe. Harry Dean Stanton was that kind of guy. He would, wouldn't he? Just a man wandering around without any pants on. How old was he?

Do you know how old he was? 91. 91? Yeah. That guy looks great for 91. Yeah, I know, right? Holy shit. Yeah.

I mean, not now. No. Wow, that's great. Good on him. Yeah, you know, he's been around the block, that bloke, like Twin Peaks, a bunch of other stuff. Wow. So it would have been like 85 when the Avengers came out.

Yeah. Or a bit older. Oh, good on him. What a guy. It's just a picture of him here in Google Images. He's got a dart. And he looks 91. Wow.

He's one of those guys who probably smoked a pack of cigarettes every day. It's true. Lived to 91. Oh, there you go. Anyway, good innings. Agreed. Yeah. All right, what's next?

Joss Whedon apparently has cut Lex Luthor's scenes from Justice League as well as Iris West. Okay. Fine. I don't care. What do you think? It'll always make me wonder if Lex Luthor and Iris West were on some sort of separate adventure.

A joint suicide pact? T-Mon and Pumbaa style. Okay. Right. Yeah. I think the Lex Luthor thing was probably a prison thing. Yeah. And Iris West is probably just at Barry Allen's work or something or, oh no, they worked,

they don't work together, do they? No. No, she's, what is she? She's a reporter. She's a reporter? Yeah. Can't remember. Can't remember.

I really, I'm so tired. But yeah, I'd imagine there's been a lot of significant changes. We've talked about this. And look, they'll all be on the DVD. So yeah, it's fine. Or none of them. Or the extended cast. Yeah, exactly.

Or the extended cast. Yeah. I'd love it if they just mashed together the Joss Whedon and Zack Snyder versions. It doesn't even make sense. They just put every scene in. Right. It contradicts. Yeah, that's right.

I want to see it all. Yeah. Now, I'm... They actually talked about box office for Justice League, and it's predicted to have a debut of $150 million weekend, which is great. Thank you. But that's less than Batman v Superman. Yeah.

So, which isn't surprising, but $150 million is still... I think the budget might have blown out on this one. Yeah, totally. Who knows? We'll find out in November of this year. Yes. I don't know the date specifically. This is exciting, I think.

The Watchmen pilot has officially been ordered. It's going to... Series? Pilot. One. It's going to do one. Going to do one. They're going to in pilot one it's going to do one gonna do one and then they're gonna inhumans it and see what happens yeah uh damon lindelof he's he's the showrunner the lost guy the lost guy right i'm i i'm i like this though and i'll tell you why yes because the

leftovers is fantastic okay yeah and he was in charge of that it wraps up really well there's a bit of kind of like, what does it all mean? But it's done in a really, in the way that Lost did not. Okay, great. And also, Watchmen kind of has a definitive ending. So you're building toward certain events. Well, for now. Yeah, for now, yeah.

And I do wonder, if this is going to series, how many series are you doing? And are you going to be doing before watchmen what are we what are we getting what are we getting from this so what do you think that's also true in in also in the sense of like is is are they going to do the entirety of the story of watchmen in one season and then do side stuff yeah are they just are they going to drag this you know the the the 12 issues of watchmen over four years or something. Yeah, right.

Yeah. Do you think they'll start with, say, the comedian being murdered? Spoiler alert. Yes. And then they will integrate the before Watchmen stuff into the narrative or they'll start in the past and then work their way forward? Oh.

Do you think they'll even start in the golden age and then go forward from then? I hope not. Yeah, sure. Just give us Watchmen. But do you think that's even start in the Golden Age and then go forward from then? I hope not. Yeah, sure. Just give us Watchmen. But do you think that's a possibility, though? That they do it chronologically and they just go way back? They go back to the 40s or whatever.

And the pirate stuff, they do it all. Oh, no. I'm not sure how that would work because I don't think the historical stuff is that good. I guess that's why it's only in bits and pieces. Yeah, fair enough. What if they did all the pirate stuff in the middle? Like they really got the plot rolling

and then the kids at the front of the newsstand are like, I'm going to read this pirate comic. And then it's two years of the Black Friday stuff. You know what, though? I was actually just thinking that it would really work well as a standalone episode. Yeah, right. Just one where we just go,

we're doing the pirate thing, and they just do 60 minutes of just the pirate stuff. Don't you think that would be great? That would be pretty good. Seasons every now and then will do that. They'll just take an episode and just do something completely different. Like Fargo did it recently.

Right, right. Just a completely different story that has nothing to do with anything else. What if they did the pirate stuff and they intercut it with, like, the story of the kid? Right, yeah, sure. He's like, oh, I'm at home and where's my mum and dad? They're having a fight. I'll keep reading my comic.

I want him to narrate it and I just want the camera to be over his shoulder and it's not animated. He's just flicking through pages. He's licking his finger, turning it over. And you just hear in the background, You son of a bitch, you face! That'd be excellent. Yeah.

Oh, great. And there's one issue where his mum throws all his comics out. And it's like the tale of the Black Freighter. And he's just like, hey, mum, what did you? Oh, you threw them? Okay. Are they in the trash? Okay.

And then he just sifted. There's five full minutes of him sifting through the bin. I'd watch that. 100%. Yeah. But are you looking forward to the Watchmen TV series? Yes. Me too. I'm watch that. 100%. Yeah. But are you looking forward to the Watchmen TV series? Yes. Me too.

I'm on board. I like the movie enough, but... I mean, granted, you just reminded me it was happening two minutes ago. Sure. I'd forgotten. But look how keen you are. Yes. You came for this?

I actually kind of am. It probably won't work, but... Sounds like something I'm not keen on. Linda Hamilton will be back for Terminator 6, which could also be Termator 3 all right who knows yeah okay do you hear this yes so james cameron's thinking was you get a lot of these old action stars who are returning well there's your first mistake james cameron's thinking you son of a bitch go back to bloody avatar world you bloody prick you dumb prick get in your submarine kill yourself sorry it's all right you can cut that little snippet out.

It's fine. That was really unnecessary and I apologize. So Linda Hamilton, because I was saying that all these old, you know, action stars are coming back and they're reprising roles and they're still kicking goals. Reprising roles, kicking goals. You know it. And Linda Hamilton, his idea is that she'll do the same thing for Sarah Connor.

I haven't seen Linda Hamilton in a movie. I'm sure she has been since Dante's Peak. So I don't know what she's doing. But I'm interested to see. Just crunches, probably. Probably, yeah. I'm more interested in seeing her return than seeing Schwarzenegger return. Because I've seen Schwarzenegger do a bunch of stuff.

That's true, yeah. But I haven't seen Linda Hamilton in like 20 years. That's true, yeah. And also the idea of like an old grizzled Sarah Connor is also... As opposed to a young grizzled Sarah Connor. Yes, exactly. I think that could be really interesting. She is actually...

But though she is in Terminator Salvation, she does a voiceover. Oh, right, okay, yeah. But that doesn't count for shit. But how do you feel about... They could have just put that together from snippets of her talking. Yes. Oh, it sounds...

Yeah, it sounds... They do. It says all dialogue. Who cares? It's a shit film. But you're okay with wiping the Terminator continuity clean again? So we're getting the real Terminator 3. Okay, great.

Yeah, all right. Okay. Unless it's bad, in which case, just remember the first two again. Yeah, exactly. In case of emergency break glass, I have that near, like in my house and I just bash the thing

and there's a little scroll and it just says only Terminator 1 and 2 happened. And I go, ah. And then underneath, and maybe Sarah Connor Chronicles if you kind of care about it, which you don't. I quite liked the stuff that I saw. Yeah, same.

Yeah, it's fine. I don't know. I mean, it's been 25 years of them trying to get the Terminator kind of going again. Yeah. This has to be it, right? If this doesn't work, this is it, right? Yeah, why try again?

Exactly, yeah. Who's left? Edward Furlong? Edward Furlong solo film? Surely they're not going to bring back Edward Furlong. No. Yeah. I wonder, like, is it going to be set in the future war?

Because if it wipes everything out, Sarah Connor could technically live to see and then fight in the Judgment Day and pass that point. That's true, yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, she'd have to be dead by the time that Kyle Reese goes back in time because he never met her. So it would have been, she would have to be dead years prior.

Or didn't he? And then we just cut to Sarah Connor. She's got the twirly mustache. She, if I recall correctly, she died. Hello, young man. It's a reverse Mrs. Doubtfire situation. I don't like it. No, I do.

But she died of cancer in 1997 in Terminator 3. So she lived to see Judgment Day not happen. Yes. So they're obviously going to retcon that. Okay, yeah. Anyway, whatever, I guess. Let's go. We're doing this.

All right. We cannot stop it. I think this is the- Try and stop James Cameron doing anything. I would never. He's so rich. He cannot stop it. I think this is- Try and stop James Cameron doing anything. I would never. He's so rich. He's so rich. Yeah, this is-

Take away his money, he'll fund it himself. He will, yeah. Look, I'm really not interested in this, but this is the only piece of news where I'd go, okay, well, you got me just a little bit. I still don't think it's going to be good, but it's their last card. Isn't it though?

Yeah. So, because they can't be like, Edward Furlong. No, no, thank you. I'm trying to think of what are any,

any, any, any secondary or tertiary characters from the first two that they could base their friendship on? Silverman? Well, he's in three. The psychiatrist.

What about Lance Hendrickson as the cop who gets shot up in the base? Yep. Because I think they were going to bring him back for two and he was going to be in a wheelchair. Okay, right. That was the idea, yeah. Good, okay. That'll work.

Security guard who gets skewered through the face? Yep. What was his day like before he got skewered through the face? It was probably fine. Yeah. Yeah. It was mostly skewer free. You know what?

It should be that he discovers he has a twin brother because that's how they did that special effect in the movie. That guy has a twin brother. Yes. And Linda Hamilton also has a twin brother. Yeah, that's right. Who looked exactly like her. Mm-hmm.

Yeah. Isn't that weird? I'm sure we've talked about that before, but actors who have a twin brother. Yeah, that's right. Who looked exactly like her. Isn't that weird? I'm sure we've talked about that before, but actors who have a twin. Yeah. Who aren't actors. Who sometimes got into acting and sometimes didn't. Yeah, it's very strange.

Nicholas Brennan from Buffy, twin brother. Oh, right. Is he ever in that, is like an evil version? There's a double scene. Great, good. I mean, you have to, don't you? You've got to make use of it. Otherwise, what are you doing?

Great. Now, we weren't you have to, don't you? You've got to make use of it. Otherwise, what are you doing? Great. Now, we weren't present. We were. We were. We're just saying weird syllables now. It's very late. It's really not that late. Do you know why the actor Edward Woodward has so many D's in his name?

Why? Because otherwise he'd be E-Y-W-E-Y. It's late. It's how late it is. Where did you steal that from? I don't know. I think my grandma told it to me or something.

You just ruined some comedian's best joke. That's right. So what do we got here? So last week we couldn't talk about this because it was a pre-recorded episode but J.J. Abrams

is now back for Star Wars Episode IX. I did a lot of stuff when I was overseas talking about who was going to replace him. I was like, it's probably going to be Rian Johnson, but it's also the possibility that he's tired and doesn't want to do it. Turns out he doesn't want to do it because I think they offered it to him and he turned it down. So J.J. Abrams is back on board.

What do you think? Yeah, fine. Here's the thing. It's not an inspired choice, is it? But it's safe. It's solid. It's solid, yeah. And like Force Awakens was a solid film.

And Force Awakens had to cover a lot of bases in the sense that it had to be a sequel. Rebel bases. Ah! Starkiller bases. Nice. of bases yes in the sense that it had to be a sequel rebel bases ah star killer bases nice um that's it okay that's trying to think of a third base third base third oh hello um yeah i mean it had to be it had to be a sequel that has to be a soft reboot yep for the most part i guess people can go in there without knowing anything about star wars and still get it so yeah there was the jedi and then there's not

whatever and find a map yeah yeah so i think you did very well there it does rehash a lot of stuff yes there was a lot of new elements which which which does work not all that works yeah it's not i don't think it's i liked it when I came out of it And I still like it Yeah To me though Going into that I kind of I expected that That's what it was going to be

Sure It was going to be The soft reboot And also The you know The peril of a The biggest franchise In the world is

If you go too far Out of the wheelhouse People are going to Hate that too Yes So you kind of Have to walk a fine line and i think he did fine yeah especially the first one out of the gate yeah my concern of this is though

his follow-up to into dark to star trek the reboot was into darkness which is a bad rehash of wrath of khan yes i think originality is not jj abrams strong suit but also i don't i don't necessarily think that's a bad thing because and i've said this before about him in a negative way but he can mimic a director's style sure he's very he's part

like he's capable of doing that he knows what makes a franchise or a certain kind of genre work and he's able to copy it I mean look at single white female yeah

I mean look at Mission Impossible 3 it's not the best Mission Impossible film but it's okay it's pretty good it's better than 2 you know and it kind of that series kept going because three was

fine. You know what I mean? So I think my concern is that we're just going to get kind of more of kind of unoriginality and a bit of a kind of rehash, but also he's probably smart enough to know that he made that mistake before with Into Darkness and he's going to try something a little bit out of the box. I'm hoping. Yeah. That's, that bit out of the box. I'm hoping. Yeah.

That's what I hope for. Also, potentially also he's been brought in and they're just like, here's the script. Yeah. Here's the special effects. Get a good performance out of Mark Hamill. Look, we mostly finished it. Yeah, it's kind of finished if we're honest.

Yeah. Yeah. Look, honestly, what we did is we randomly pressed up a hundred new action figures and we put it through a machine and here's the plot do not deviate it from or you're fired like trevorrow we'll fire anyone no one's immune yeah we're disney just do what you're not you're not disney yeah apparently though on the back of this, Paramount is very unhappy with J.J. returning to Star Wars because they've apparently paid him, for the past 10 or so years, $10 million a year in overhead and development

for projects that he was going to create. Really? The last film that he made for Paramount was Into Darkness in 2013. Huh. And then he went and did Star Wars. Nice work if you can get it. Bloody hell, mate. The deal runs out in summer of 2018,

which is a year and a half before Star Wars Episode IX comes out because now it's been pushed back to December from May. And apparently Paramount got $7 million from Disney for this deal. But that doesn't cover the $40 million they've got to lose for the years that he, if there's, you know, if there's enough to be believed.

So they didn't, apparently they didn't want to be pricks about it and be like, no, you can't do it because you burn a bridge there. You don't want a Henry Cavill mustache situation. No, you certainly don't. And so they took it on, they've kind of taken it on faith that he'll do this and then he'll do the right thing and kind of develop projects for them and come back and do some Paramount stuff. What do you reckon about all that?

I'm starting to think that movie executives have too much money and they're not very smart about what they do with it. Okay, yes. But this is apparently the last deal of its kind that's happened. Oh, ever in the world. Yeah, well, because directors like this don't, directors like, you know, your J.J. Abrams and your Christopher Nolans, I guess, they're kind of few and far between. Everybody's kind of worked for hire now.

You get someone on for a project, an indie director, you've talked about this, and then you fire them. Exactly, that's right. Or at gunpoint, you force them to make. You squeeze out whatever you can out of them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

So, this deal doesn't exist anymore for anybody else, apparently. But I would be pissed off. Like, they're paying him this much money, and they got him on the back of him, you know, being this... Like, they were talking about him being the next Spielberg or whatever, and he's going to rescue Paramount from whatever, and, you know, all these great projects are going to happen, but he just hasn't really done it the last one he did did not do very well so man I don't know you're right this might be the the end of directors really doing anything

potentially I mean then again that may all move to like Netflix or that's true yeah so big budget stuff like this year maybe. Yeah, yeah. Oh boy. What are you going to do about it though? Start my own movie production company. Do you need some cash? Yeah. How much do you need?

100 bucks. 100 bucks. Is that going to be enough? We'll dip into the Patreon. Okay, cool. Great. All right. We could rustle up.

Last bit of news. No, second last bit of news. Darth Vader might be in Han Solo. Apparently somebody saw him there. Just milling about. Oh, yeah, great. Why, I guess? I mean, I understand why, but maybe don't.

I don't know. What do you think? I don't know, man. Because if you're putting me in every film, then it doesn't mean anything. It's know, man. Because if you put him in every film, then it doesn't mean anything. It's true, yeah. And then when he shows up in the Obi-Wan film potentially, then it's like, no, we saw him.

We saw his burnt mask and then we saw him in Rogue One and then he was standing in the background of Han Solo and then he turned up in Obi-Wan. Like, who cares? That's true. I feel like you should use him sparingly. Or not at all. Exactly, use him sparingly.

But that's true yeah i feel like you should use him sparingly or not at all exactly use him sparingly but i mean and but that's the thing i think because he was so effective in rogue one people like that's what people remember do it do another one do it again it'll be and then but then if you keep doing that it loses its effectiveness nothing yeah exactly yeah who do you think he's gonna murder anybody's gonna kill a han solo Twist, he gets replaced by a different Han Solo A different Han Solo That's why he looks different Correct Hollywood

Yeah Last bit of news This is the last bit of news Okay Matthew Vaughn Whose film we'll be talking about soon Yes He confirmed that he has been in talks

Kind of loosely to direct the next Superman film Oh And he says, I think my main takeaway for mine would be it'd just be really boring. He thinks that Richard Donner did it really well at the time. Perfection, he said. And just doing the modern version.

No, sorry. This quote is all over the job. He's bad at talking though, Matthew Vaughn. Is he? He's like, um... No, I don't know um i reckon uh richard donner is good but um that's the way this quote is written though he says wants to go back to the source material superman is color feel good and heroic is a beacon of light in

the darkness and that's what i think superman should be i agree with all of that i don't love the just doing the richard donner thing again because we also we did that Superman Returns yeah but uh but hey what do you think about any of that would you want him

to direct Superman did he direct the movie we're just about to talk about yes then no uh he also said uh

that he wants to take a crack at the Fantastic Four yeah so sure why not give it to literally anybody yeah yeah FX is the Veil Fantastic Four. Yeah. Sure, why not? Yeah. Give it to literally anybody. Yeah.

Yeah. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret, the other a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+. Right, let's talk about Kingsman 2, The Golden Circle.

It's going to open about $40 million in the US, which is great for an R-rated film. The last one did $36 million. That's good. It's not a massive improvement, but it is an improvement. Critically, not as well received as the first. It's sitting on about 50% of Rotten Tomatoes. The reviews aren't necessarily scathing, but it's just kind of a lot of like, well, this

is not as good and kind of weird in places. I think I agree with that. Well, see, we spoke on the telephone yesterday or the day before, and you said you'd just come off seeing Kingsman, and you said, look, I thought it was okay. You know, here's some things. But hey, you might like it. And I went and I saw Kingsman. And quite frankly, I'm insulted that you thought I might like it.

Because it sucks. Really? Yeah. Is it the robot dogs? It's a lot of things. Okay, sure. It's almost everything. I want you to get into that, Mason.

Okay. But you're getting ahead of yourself because you have to tell everybody what you think the story was all right hang on uh so eggsy he's a kingsman man yep he's a king's man man king's man man spy and then um he's got to do a mission yep um because the world the world's gonna end because it's gonna be what is revealed in the trailer ultimately not the plot right there's a world

ending plot by Julianne Moore yep I think that's about it but it's not he can't handle it on his own so he's gotta go

find Statesman who's the American version of Kingsman correct and Colin Firth's back it's in the trailer that's also in the trailer spoiler alert

he's back we'll talk about that more in spoilers because these manner of return is, I did not like, but we'll talk about that a bit later. Great summation, Mason. Thank you.

I'm joking, it sucked. It was no good. Well, all this movie deserved, quite frankly. Yeah, it was a disappointment to me. Yeah. Look, overall, I really liked the first one. It's not my favourite movie in the world, but I thought it was fun and kind of hyper-real, surreal.

It's a Roger Moore Bond for the modern day. Yeah, absolutely. But, you know, with some modern day kung fu action and it was a bit silly and self-aware and that sort of thing and i think the opposite is true about about this one too many callbacks you know what there was it felt to me there was a lot of uh it's talking to the audience like they're idiots who've never seen a movie before yeah but a lot of talking to the audience as if they have memorized every single second of the previous king that is true yeah like they second of the previous King. That is true.

Yeah. Like they talk about the dog a lot. Yeah. There's a lot of callbacks to all the very minor character notes. The room filled with water. Yeah. Right. Yeah.

And I remember it, but I guess, yeah, I don't know. Yeah. I think you're right. Yeah. I think you're right.

Yeah. Well, did you, do you enjoy Eggsy as the super spy? Uh, the, the young James Bond kind of fella? I mean, I guess.

But I mean, the flaw I feel to this movie is, well, you said when we spoke about it that you're kind of over the action, you know, the kung fu kind of. Well, the difference between this movie and the last one is there was variation in the action sequences. This one does that snap zoom in and out, Colin Firth is killing everybody in the church. They do that for every action sequence. Yes. My favorite action sequence from that last movie is the fight between him and the Blade Legs woman at the end.

Yeah, right. Because it's shot more traditionally than the church scene, but it's just really good. It's a really good version. Well, here's the thing that I was going to say about this kind of snap action, kind of hyper real kind of thing, I feel was the only part of this movie that I enjoyed. I'm not sick of it.

I quite liked it. Okay, yeah. But I hated everything else about this movie. but I hated everything else about this movie like I hated like Taron Egerton is probably good as Eggsy given what he had but all his dialogue was terrible all everyone's dialogue was terrible

everything was expository everything was dumb every all the CGI is bad the CGI is really bad like glaringly bad. It doesn't feel like a real world at all. At any point.

But the last one, there is that hyper-reality, but the last one didn't... I don't remember it looking as bad as this one looked. See, that's the thing, because I went into this movie and I'm like, now remember, going to be a little hyper-real. Everything's going to move fast. Everybody's going to do Kung Fu faster than anybody can do Kung Fu. So I'll remember this is going to be you know move fast everybody's going to do kung fu faster than anybody can do kung fu it's so i'll remember this is going to be a little surreal and i'll just roll with it but then i'm like it's not surreal enough it's not it's not surreal enough to just it's not

kung fu hustle it's not comfort but it's not it's not surreal enough that i can just be like well i'll just drink in these visuals but it it's also not real enough that i can that i care about anything in it yeah right it's it's not it's not real enough that any of it feels like solid hits or i hate to say this it feels a bit die another day in part yeah right and i don't like saying that i just mean in terms of some special effects yeah right yeah it's obviously a better film than die another day that's your movie's atrocious but yeah there's some is it one particular there's what one scene that sticks out in my mind is it's a minor minor spoiler but they're stacking up people in cages yep and it just looks terrible like because they're like 10 20 stories high just people in cages stacked on

top of each other just yeah Just bad green screen and bad. It reminded me also of that shell game from. The A-Team. The A-Team. It was a bit like that. Like, oh, what is this? Yeah. So, yeah.

Yeah. Anyway, there's stars galore. Yes. They're in it for two minutes. All the stars are in it for two minutes. Not one of them. One of them's in it a lot, and there's too much of him. Colin Firth returns.

We'll talk about that more in spoilers, but I think it kind of takes away from the events of the last film and how Eggsy kind of grows as a person by bringing him back, I feel. It's kind of like that Highlander 2 situation where it's like, oh, Sean Connery's back. And he's back with magic. And he's back with magic. In fact, the return of Colin Firth in this kind of ruins the stakes of the movie in its entirety, I would feel.

Yeah, I don't disagree with that. But maybe we'll hold off on that. Yeah, let's hold off on it. Statesmen. They go to America. They go to a whiskey factory. Yes. It's secretly a statesman factory.

It's what they're building in there. They're making some statesmen, yep. Led by Jeff Bridges, Channing Tatum, Halle Berry, and the guy from Game of Thrones. Yep. What did you think of those guys? Garbage. In what way?

Clothes? No, that's fine. But, I mean, I was hoping for some team up, Eggsy and Tatums. Yeah. None, nothing. No. Nothing.

Do you think they're saving that for the sequel? No, I don't want there to be a sequel. But. Wow, you've really. So you don't think there's even, they could bring this back in the next one? I think they probably could. The Bond films are up and down.

But again, that's kind of, I feel the trailer set up, oh, they're going to, you know, it's going to be classic superhero team up. They're going to punch for a bit, then they're going to be mates and then they're going to team up and and fight the bad guy but they don't right okay spoilers they don't yeah channing tatum's in this very briefly yeah

but also quite a lot initially yeah i guess and then they just they really just kind of shuffle him off yep it's it's very straight so that's bad yeah what else is bad in this movie uh i i yeah like i said action sequences julianne moore's motivations as a villain are bad i didn't did not care for that at all especially on the back like i thought samuel jackson took a really annoying character that you wouldn't think would work and made it work i don't know i think it's more the writing in this case yeah but julianne moore's character is no good in this at all i don't believe her motivations i her plan is also really stupid yep she's she's got this amazing organization which earns her billions of dollars annually but she just wants to be known it's it

doesn't make any sense yeah yeah and it's a weird condemnation of like we'll talk about the spoilers sure uh what else is bad in this uh also she's not even there's also another bad guy of sorts in this yes there is yep yep right but yeah but i didn't like that reveal thought it didn't make any sense do you want to just get into spoilers? let's get into spoilers anyway worst movie ever yeah I was hoping I didn't I wasn't

it's not like my expectations were super high and they were dashed I'm like this is going to be a sequel it's going to be probably as good as the first one

maybe not as not slightly slightly worse than the first one it's real bad in my opinion so do you think it's the same way that Kick-Ass, because I know you hate Kick-Ass 2. That's what I thought about it.

I'm like, this is Kick-Ass. Maybe it is all in the writing. Right, yeah. Maybe this Mark Miller knows a thing or two about a thing or two as far as writing a story. Sure, yeah. Did he write this one? I don't think so.

I don't think he wrote the first one, though. I wrote the comic. Yes. Are you talking about comics? Because there is a Kick-Ass 2 comic. Yes. It doesn't matter. but yeah are you talking about comics because there is a kick-ass 2 comic yes i don't it doesn't matter anyway talking about scripts or comics what are we talking about i think i'm talking about scripts okay cool i'm thinking i'm my feeling is that kick-ass one and kingsman one at least were based on his his he's the original property and he's had time to come up with something good and enjoyable.

Yeah. And then it's been translated over. And then they're like, okay, this has been successful. Knock out another one real quick. And he's, all right, somebody's... Well, it's only been a bit over two years. Yeah.

So it's a pretty quick turnaround. Man. Anyway, spoilers. Okay. Spoiler number one. Statesman has found a cure for gunshot wounds through the head. Right through the head. Right all the way through.

I thought... I thought, in fact, you can recover from a gunshot wound in seemingly a matter of hours. With no mark? And no repercussions. Yeah. Strange. Isn't it, though?

Okay, so for those people who haven't seen it, the way that Colin Firth is brought back, because he is shot right through the head. We see a scan of his head and he's shot. The mystery has been from the unnecessary trailer reveal that he's back. Matthew Vaughan hated that, by the way. I bet.

Yeah. Oh, well. Sorry, go on, yeah. Yeah, well. Maybe you should have. I don't know. Anyway. Something else.

Something else. Is that what you're saying? Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, the statesman flew in. Samuel else. Something else. Is that what you're saying? Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah. So, the statesman flew in. Samuel L. Jackson shot him in the head. We didn't see this in the last movie, but the statesmen were there like immediately.

They put this kind of ice pack around his head. Ice pack gauze around his head, yeah. Which kind of contains the wound. And then through nanotechnology, they rewire his brain, even though it's got a big old hole through it. And then the repercussion of that is that you revert back to a younger version of yourself. But then if a tragic thing happens to you, you remember everything and you're fine.

Except your Kung Fu is not as good straight away. Yeah, but then it is. Then it is. Then it is. So I thought his glasses could have been bulletproof. I don't know. He could have been a hologram. It could have been like a clone.

Not a clone. That's bad. But it could have been like an impersonator. Yep. It could have been an android. It could have been a rock salt bullet. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

He could still lose his memory. Yes. Yeah. I just think, really really he could have been and i thought maybe because if you remember correctly samuel jackson's character hates violence and the blood yeah it could very well have been like he missed yes like he missed by an inch and colin firth is so good at playing dead that he didn't notice or something. Yeah, absolutely. Anything would have worked better than this.

Anything would have worked better. So another character in this, the guy from Game of Thrones. Whiskey. Whiskey gets shot in the head point blank. Point blank by Colin Firth, which I think was a questionable decision. Even though Exe calls him on it. He never actually states why he... Because he's a traitor, that guy, by the way.

Yeah. But he never clarifies why he thinks that. They don't even interact that much. No. Yeah. Because he broke the vial that was going to drugs. Yeah, right. I'm so tired.

I've got to say. But I think he was on the verge of shooting him before that. It seemed that way. Yeah. Yeah. So, and then, so in a matter of hours, like you said, he's picked up by the statesman, by Halle Berry. They put the pack around his head.

They stitch his brain back together and he's up. And they show him a picture of his girlfriend who died from crack addicts. And then he's, he remembers everything. And then he goes to stop Eggsy and Colin Firth. There's not a mark on him. Did he, did he wing him like on the side of the head? Like did it go through his brain? I don't know.

He didn't have a scar or I don't understand. Maybe he just scared him. Scared him? Yeah. Okay, well yeah. Scared him into a having a big hole in his head.

Yeah, correct. Okay, great. Yeah. I didn't even like the twist of him being I thought it was going to end up that he was working for Julianne Moore. Yeah.

But he had two motivations. Now I think about it, there's actually three villains because there's also the president. Who were you thinking of before? The president. Okay, right. So I was thinking of him. Okay, right. Right.

So he, so the reason he wants, so basically Julianne Moore, she controls all the drugs in the world. She's put a toxin in it where if you take any kind of illegal substance, then you're going to die in a matter of days. But she's also manufactured the cure. So then she's going to hold the world to ransom and then the president has to make all drugs legal so she can become a legitimate businesswoman and then she'll release the cure.

He is okay with that, like hundreds of millions of people dying because a he has the stock in kingsman alcohol no statesman alcohol will go up so i guess he has shares in the company right presumably and also his girlfriend was killed by a crack addict do you need both of those things no it could have just been the crack addict thing yeah like i don't know why he was like i'm not what are you talking about like you've got a stake in the company yeah i don't know why he was like, what are you talking about? You've got a stake in the company. I don't know. I feel like I'm not explaining this very well. No, you've explained it perfectly.

Okay. Yeah, I don't understand. Julianne Moore's entire, like, that's what you want, to be famous? Yeah. No, real bad. And earlier on, Halle Berry's like, why would a drug cartel poison all our... All their drugs. Yeah, exactly.

Good question. Really good question. Yeah, because if the president doesn't sign off on the thing that makes drugs legal, then all her customers are dead. Yeah. So that's like Apple making their iPhones electrocute you. And also, it'd be really difficult to then hook new people on drugs because children would have a very effective, you know, what do you call it, a bloody... Anti-drug message.

Anti-drug message. Yeah. I remember when hundreds of millions of people died. Just dropped dead. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Maybe don't do drugs. So the reason Channing tatum disappears

in this movie is because he took some drugs yes he they're wacky tabacky potentially or straight up crack we don't know and so they have to put him on a shelf something yeah so he's in it quite a bit and you think it's going to be an adventure of channing tatum and eggsy yeah and then they just replace him with the guy from Game of Thrones inexplicably. I think that character should have been one character. Yes. Or at least... Or half a character.

Half a character. I don't know what the deal was with that. I mean, I like the laser lasso. I thought it was fine. I thought he had too many weapons, quite frankly. He had guns. And a laser lasso. They've all got too many weapons.

That's what it is, man. Gadgets. I guess that's true. Do you think there was enough new gadgets? No. So too many weapons. That's what it is, man. Gadgets. I guess that's true. Do you think there was enough new gadgets? No. So too many weapons, but not enough new gadgets. Correct, yes.

Okay. Bowler hats. Doesn't Channing Tatum look dumb in a bowler hat? Boy, does he. God, that does not suit him at all. I thought that guy could wear anything, but apparently not. Bowler hat harder than you'd think.

What else is bad in this movie? It looked tiny on his... It looked like a thimble. That's true. On his big old head. Also, what I thought was weird about this movie is, first of all,

it has like a... The message is like, why are drugs illegal but alcohol is legal? Yeah. Did I say that right? Doesn't matter. I get what you mean.

You get the context. I'm sure people understand, yeah. But then afterwards, it's like, well, I guess we'll just stick to drinking. Yeah. Still is bad. Still as bad.

Still as bad. Well, there was a lot of product placement in this for Kingsman-specific products. That's true, yeah. Statesman whiskey is real now. The aftershave bit where he's like, here, try this Statesman aftershave. And he's like, I'm actually, I'm already wearing it. Yeah. What?

Oh, boy. Like, that's, it's, because it's not tongue-in-cheek enough it was just it's so kind of casual if it was kind of a bit of a wink and a nudge but it's not it's just like a weird out of place conversation yeah it's very strange i i am okay with product placement i think james bond generally does it really well this was not a good example of that at all this is like yeah it's like michael bay cracking a bloody bud light or whatever in transformers what else is bad about this movie almost anything let me think uh okay elton john yes the initials are elton john is kidnapped by julianne moore and made to play his

hit songs and he's in a bird costume or whatever the entirety of the movie he's in it way too much like the initial joke is that she's like el Elton John, play Rocketman or whatever. And he's like, fuck you. But then that keeps happening. It happens like 10 times. And then at the end, he has a Kung Fu moment, which makes no sense to me. Which felt to me like Princess Fiona in Shrek. You know, which has got Kung Fu powers all of a sudden. Yeah, absolutely.

So I think there was way too, There should have been minimal Elton John or it should have been different celebrities like it is in the original Kingsman comic. Does that just mean that Elton John is cheaper to hire than Channing Tatum now? I guess he is. They probably had about the same amount of screen time though. Elton John's probably not in this as much as I think he is.

It seems like a lot, doesn't it? Do you feel like having Colin Firth return... It's very similar to also Men in Black 2 with the return of Tommy Lee Jones' character. That makes more sense, obviously, because he wasn't shot through the head. But it kind of derails the point of the character Eggsy and what he learnt from the previous films.

Yeah, it really does. Yeah. And he's kind of carrying on the legacy of Colin Firth's character. He's doing it all in his honour. But now he's just back and they're both called Galahad.

Wasn't one of them Lance a lot? Yeah, I guess so. Look, it doesn't matter. Also, Roxy dies. Yeah. But Mark Strong doesn't die. But then he does die. And he does die. That was a stupid death. Yeah, really. Because, okay, Mark Strong dies after he goes, finally

I get to be a kingsman he puts on a suit and he goes out there and then he steps on a landmine sorry eggs he steps on a landmine and then he switches places with him and he has a sing song before he dies yeah it's kind of supposed to be i guess heroic and funny but i didn't feel anything no and i like mark strong's character i liked him a lot in the first one but, he only kills like a half a dozen guys. Yeah. And I feel very strongly that Eggsy

and Colin Firth could have just killed those guys and then figured out a way to get him off the landmine. Yes. Or maybe

found more of that freezy spray. Yeah. Put a rock on it. Put one of the bad guys on it. Yep. Just leapt away

the first time. Yep. They could have done that. Well, if they had leapt away the first time, they still could have fought their way in. Yeah. Because they did it? Yep. Just leapt away the first time? Yep. They could have done that. Well, if they had leapt away the first time, they still could have fought their way in. Yeah. Because they did it very easily. They're all leapy kung fu guys.

Why couldn't they have just jumped off it? They can all do that black widow spin around a person's head and break their neck thing. What I did like about this, I should talk about stuff I like because I did like some things. Like Eggsy and Colin Firth, they are cold-blooded killers. It's true. They poison Julianne Moore with tainted heroin and they just watch her die.

They throw a man directly into a meat grinder. That's true. Head first. There's other moments. Colin Firth shoots that guy point blank. Yep. I like that they're callous in that way. They're secret agents

but they're not kind of remorseful about killing eggsie or finger or rando at a music festival that was so weird yeah right i didn't like that at all unnecessary too it's like if you in the first one they there was like a seduction competition or whatever yeah and it was kind of but it was also displayed as being creepy and kind of like yeah right it was because in the original comic books i don't think it is great i mean it is creepy but it's not it's a skill that they learn yeah it's not depicted as it should be depicted as creepy but i think only the move the first movie was like hey listen this is no good but and they twisted on said because the seduction competition is actually you're getting tied to a train track. Yeah, right.

So it's not an actual seduction competition. But in the comic book, I think it is. Right, yeah, it probably is. Also, why is Eggsy wearing his stupid flat brim cap and his stupid clothes when he's... What, at the music festival? No, when he's just hanging out with his mates or whatever. Because they don't know he's in Kingsman. Oh, yeah, I guess you're...

Okay, fair enough, yeah. But anyway, that's him. Anyway, I hate hate that look i think it's a terrible look fair enough yeah but yeah like that scene is no why we didn't need i felt they were like well we did it the last one and that was pretty fun so let's do it again yeah but much worse can't just put a tracker on someone just put a tracker on her give her a diamond necklace dude use the watch thing that he can you can shoot a dart into somebody except it's a tracker come on just put your finger up her nose i thought i thought it was see that's the thing i thought i thought he was gonna do i thought he was gonna

stick his finger in her mouth or something right like that's the joke and he's like oh this is what i like i like a bit of yeah finger in the mouth action or whatever but nope he followed through he sure did i mean he didn't have sex with her. It's true. What a hero. I liked the return of the guy who didn't make it in Kingsman. Me too. With the robot arm.

That was good. That showed a lot of promise. I should have said that in not spoilers. That actually had a lot of promise to it. He was good. I thought that was a good inclusion. I love a robot arm. Same. Yeah. I still think, and I actually made a video on this to him. He was good. I thought that was a good inclusion. I love a robot arm. Same.

Yeah. I still think, and I actually made a video on this. I'll link it below. I think Kingsman's going to change James Bond for the better. Really? I think the next time around when they reboot it, they're going to do more. Not necessarily silly, but they're going to do more gadgets and fun. I think he'll still be the killer.

I think they're going to take it back. But I think that was on the cards anyway. You're probably right. I think Skyfall and Spectre definitely... But I think it's also on the cards because Kingsman came out and then Spectre came out. That's true, you're right. And people were like, we hate Spectre. Spectre's fine, I guess.

What else, Mason? Did you like the CGI robot dogs? No, they were bad. Did you like the tattoo where you just get a gold circle? No, I didn't like that. I didn't like... Let's see, what else didn't I like? I didn't like the weird diner landscape she lived in.

I liked that. I liked that, yeah. All right. I don't understand why she had to live out there. I didn't... Yeah, well, see, that's the thing. You're making billions of dollars in your drug trade, and no one knows who you are. You go anywhere your life you idiot also you could just

be the front of another company just buy just buy apple and then just be the head of apple you want to be known did you like the part where she was like i don't i don't trust people i only trust robots that's why i have three robots and a hundred henchmen. She's like that bit? It was pretty good, wasn't it? She trusted the guy who had a robot arm. It's true. Because he's part robot. 101 henchmen there.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I don't. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah.

The more I talk about this. I'm going to kill everybody. The more I talk about this, the more I'm like, oh, no, I think I'd like this less than I initially. That's right. Yeah. You've turned me around, Mason. Good.

That's my only goal here. I got some tweets here, though, I think I'd like this less than I initially... That's right. You've turned me around, Mason. Good. That's my only goal here. I got some tweets here, though, from people. Oh, yeah. You can still say more stuff, Mason. Don't let me stop you. But I thought we'd... They're actually very positive. Oh, there you go.

John Gears... Yeah, the emails were more positive as well. John Gears says, Just saw Kingsman 2. It was the best Bond movie in a decade. When would Casino Royale come out? 2006, yeah. Yeah.

I thought Kingsman 1 was better. Me too. Saw Kingsman, this is from Queen Molly. Saw Kingsman yesterday, wasn't perfect, but really fun. Now can we please let James Bond die already? Not yet. Yes, do one more. Billy R says, just saw Kingsman and the Golden Circle.

Really great movie around. Best movie ever. Dara Eaton says, saw Kingsman. Seems Vaughn's, that guy in class is really nice. Until he's around. Best movie ever. Dara Eaton says, Saul Kingsman. Seems Vaughn's that guy in class is really nice till he's with his dickhead mates. Still best movie ever. And Ryden Davis. Ryden Davis?

Whatever your name is. Kingsman 2 is bombastic, hilarious, and works much in the same way that 22 Jump Street worked. There you go. So, yeah, I think the feedback generally has been really positive. We might be in the minority on this. Well, I hope we've changed all your minds for the worse. That's not true.

Like what you like, and that's fine, isn't it? Yeah. Anything else to say, Mason? I'm sure I'll think of some other stuff. I think next week you'll be like, welcome to the Weekly Planet. Here's Nick Mason. I'll be like, here's another thing about Kingsman. Let me tell you about my Kingsman.

So you don't want Kingsman 3? like, here's another thing about Kingsman. Let me tell you about my Kingsman. I hate you. So you don't want Kingsman 3? No, I wouldn't mind Kingsman 3. I want Kingsman 3. I think someone also asked if it's shaken my faith in Matthew Vaughn as a director. Yes. Nah, not really. For me, yes. I think you have to do more than one kind of mediocre film for that to kind of...

I mean, name a director who hasn't made a bad film, Mason. I can't good work thank you people will probably say Kubrick I guess disagree which is his bad one I don't really like

that many Kubrick films 201 Space Men's Space Odyssey 201 Space Men's yes it's a bad one that is a boring film great we know what it's time for I hope you know what it's a bad one that is a boring film great

we know what it's time for I hope you know what it's time for what are we reading? what are we going to read? here we go put a theme in I'm doing a theme what are we reading today?

good I feel like I just mumbled my way through that like it wasn't very coherent or interesting. But I'm sure you did very well. The entire episode is what you're saying. Just up to this point. What can you do? I still haven't watched The Tick.

I should do that this way. I gotta watch The Tick. Yeah. You know why we haven't watched it? Is because it's slightly more inconvenient. What's it on? It's on Amazon Prime Video. Do we even have that here?

No, we do. But I'd have to sign up for another thing. Oh, man. Yeah, right? Well, I haven't watched it because I've been in the US of A, Mason. You could have. They've got Amazon video on every corner in the US. That's true.

At one point, I turned on regular TV because I was staying in an Airbnb. I didn't have Netflix, and it's just like 1,000 channels, and I'm just like, no. I'm not. Didn't even go through the first 10? Nah. I think I went through three. I think they were all shopping.

Oh, here's something I hated about Kingsman. It's not a spoiler. Not a spoiler? I hated it. Their attempt to pretend Fox News is a legitimate news service. I hated that. How dare you? I actually had this thought earlier in the week.

It's a Fox movie. I was going to say I had this thought earlier in the week. I should probably stop watching Fox things because earlier in the week. It is a Fox movie. I was going to say I had this thought earlier in the week. I should probably stop watching Fox things because Fox is the worst. And then I'm like, oh, Kingsman, oh, it's a Fox. Okay, right. And then I'm like, oh, that's right. Fox News is a cancer on society.

It's the worst thing for anything. It's not a great representation of current events and facts. It's the absolute worst. But I would also argue that a lot of other news stations are maybe not equally bad. Nothing's as bad. There's a lot of misinformation out there, Mason. And I don't care for it, quite frankly.

Okay, fine. Okay, so when I was overseas, Mason, I went on movie fights. Oh, yes. I went on Jedi Council. I went on Millennial Falcon. I went on Screen Junkies News. Those are the things I did.

I'll link those below. People wanted to know why on the scenes of movie fights. Do you want me to talk about that for a little bit? Sure. So basically, they're all really nice people, by the way. Everybody that I met was super nice.

Like the crew over there. I'll name them all, Mason, but I'll forget somebody, so I'll choose to name none. Nice. I'll do it. Andy, Dan, Spencer, Roth, Jenny, Jenny Max JTT I've forgotten somebody

haven't I Mason you can always add it in post I won't okay he added them all in post he didn't say anything he just sat there for 30 seconds but yeah

it was it was it was a lot of fun so mate I think I enjoyed so what they do they email the questions before and they're like

these are the questions and then I actually asked you for some. We workshopped them. We workshopped a couple, yeah. I regret going for, what was it? The silent film one. It was like, what movie's better with the sound off?

Oh, yes. And we decided on, well, you floated the idea of, what was it? Children of Men, because it's got that awesome twist. And I should have just said Mad Max in hindsight. That was my first thought, but I'm like, no, Children of Men's interesting. And then as I'm arguing, I'm like, oh, no, I've got the wrong road here. But hey, that's all right.

But basically, they email the question. So you know what the other people are going to say, except for the speed round. And then I think you're supposed to take notes. And then I didn't turn up with any notes. And then I'm like, oh, shit, I'm in trouble here. But but then i i think it's hardly a fight who goes to a fight with some notes that's right yeah you tell them left kick right kick but no what i really enjoyed about it i just got to just spin my wheels and i think that's that's great that's if i had a list of notes i don't think i would have done i would have been as coherent i think that's my favorite

thing is when i'm just just say a thing and I'm like, right. You know what you need to do? Chuck that laptop in the bin. This one? Yeah, it's been done, mate. I also need it for editing. No.

Yeah. It's a crutch, mate. Oh, no. Yeah, afraid so. Anyway, it's a lot of fun. I'll link it to you if you people want to check it out. You might be doing one also

at some point, potentially, Mason. Oh, I have to travel. You have to travel, yeah. I like it. But they also might be coming here at some point. And I won't have to travel. Oh, so good. You. You have to travel. I like it. But they also might be coming here at some point. I won't have to travel. You probably have to

travel to Sydney because I'd say it would be more likely to be in Sydney. I'll take the train. You okay with that? Yeah fine. Dan. Here's an email.

This is an email related to what we're going to read. This is from James Carey. Can you guys comment on the Orville? Yes.

Have you seen it? I've seen the first three. What did you think? I like it. It's kind of like, it's not as funny as Galaxy Quest, but it definitely gets stronger as it goes. I've been waiting for something like this. I've heard mixed things about this.

Yeah, no, it definitely starts average. Okay. And I wasn't super into it at all. But I also, I'm like, you know, I'm going to stick with this because I want to like this. I need something like this. Yeah, but no, the third episode in particular, it's not as funny as I would like it to be.

Well, see, a lot of people have said that it's in this weird middle ground where it's not as proper sci-fi as Star Trek, but it's also not as funny as a Galaxy Quest. Right. So it's sort of... Does it feel like this is Seth oh joe star i forgot him sorry keep going nice do you feel like it's seth mcfarlane do you feel it's seth mcfarlane loves star trek and he wants to make star trek but also make it funny yes i think that's exactly what but he can't just make us like a science fiction star trek thing because people will be like,

this is a bit out of left field for the family guy guy. You know what? To me, and I haven't seen a lot of The Next Generation, but it feels a lot just like The Next Generation with slightly more jokes. It's slightly edgier. There were a lot of jokes in The Next Generation. It's pretty much the same.

There weren't. There were no jokes. It's the there were a lot of jokes in Next Generation it's pretty much there weren't there were no jokes no it's the same in a lot of ways occasionally Data would go into the holodeck and dress up as a gangster and that's pretty funny

that is pretty funny it's very funny did anybody ever dress up as a lady in the holodeck probably Worf imagine how funny that would be yeah cause

there were the wrong clothes and he was in a Victoria ear and skirt weird forehead yeah Worf are you interested in the orville yeah i'll watch a couple i think you should yeah i i look it it's fox also yeah but it won't uh i i think it's something that and i i'm not a big proponent of this if you stick with

it you might find it gets better or just start at episode three um uh here's another email. Robert Rodriguez. I'm assuming the director. This is Ben Rodriguez underneath. What a son of a bitch. Have we seen Mother?

What are our thoughts? I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it either. I don't want to say it. Exactly.

As soon as I saw the trailer for Mother and I heard it was coming out, I immediately just went to the Wikipedia page hoping there was a synopsis so I could read it and not watch it was coming out I immediately just went to the Wikipedia page hoping there was a synopsis

so I could read it and not watch it. And there wasn't? There wasn't one at the time. I did read the Wikipedia synopsis. Sounds terrible. Yeah. I also

if you go onto the vulture.com you can do a quiz to determine whether or not you would like Mother. And what did it say for you? You would not like Mother. Did it give you films that it was similar to?

No, it was more like you meet a woman in the bar and she won't stop talking about Infinite Jest. What do you do? Leave straight away. What's Infinite Jest? It's a David Foster Wallace novel. Okay. Yeah.

Which I kind of like, but it's not the point. You don't want to talk about it. you don't want to talk about it. I don't want to talk about it. No, it's a, it's a lot of kind of, cause the whole thing's like a metaphor for like religion and creation and whatever.

And I'm not really, I'm not interested in that at all. So. Okay. Right. Does it have a, do you, based on the Wikipedia synopsis,

does it have a satisfying ending? No. Ambiguous ending that I would hate. Ah, it's probably a little bit ambiguous but in terms of if you're like oh no this is just like that thing in religion

and the world I'm always thinking that yeah I guess it does I'm always pointing at things in real life and going it's just like in that religion that man was turned into

a pillar of salt just like in that religion. Wow. I'm a real Ricky Gervais. You certainly are, Mason. You a vegetarian? No. No.

You want to hear the most LA story I have? Yeah. Okay. Why have you been wasting time on this Kingsman review? Right. So I've never been to LA or the US before. I liked a lot of it. I liked most of it, I should say.

This sounds like a James hates your country kind of story. No, no. I just think stories about me meeting nice people is not that interesting. I caught up with Sean, you know, the guy who did the Batman Superman animation. Yeah. Great book. John Willits is a great man. I caught up with some cool dudes over, Andrea from Loot Crate, who was awesome.

We went out for dinner together with her husband also. It wasn't just like a secret rendezvous, Mason. Okay, right. No, they were really awesome. We went out for dinner together with her husband also. It wasn't just like a secret rendezvous, Mason. No, that was really awesome. This wasn't your Joss Whedon scenario. No, it wasn't. That's what I'm going to call it from now on. Your Joss Whedon. It's your gimme.

That's it. So I was getting in an Uber. I got in an Uber, sorry, to go to the airport because then I had to go to Vegas where a guy got glassed. That's another story. I'll tell that another time.

One of your friends specifically, not just a guy. He wasn't. It was in the group. Okay, right. Did I tell you this? Did you glass him? I didn't glass anybody. You're not directly one of my friends.

You didn't go to school with me. Glassed. So I got in the Uber and the guy's like, I'm going to do the accent. Oh, no. I'm going to do the accent. Oh no. I'm sorry. When you say accent, do you mean American accent

or Indian accent? I believe the Indian accent. No, American. Okay, great. So he's like, hey man, how you doing? That's not good, is it?

No, that's a very good vague American accent. And I'm like, I'm good, I'm fine. We got an email this week. Somebody said, I'm from Wales, can you do a Welsh accent?

No. No. Definitely not. And I'm like, no, I'm good. Yeah. How are you? I can only do Pierce Brosnan in GoldenEye where he goes, bear me a pain.

You know that bit? To Sean Bain. He's like, bear me a pain. Which I assume is slightly Welsh. I assume when he screams, it's slightly Welsh. Isn't he Irish? I don't know. I thought Pierce Brosnan was Welsh.

I don't think he's Welsh. I'm thinking of Christian Bale. Yeah, or maybe Dalton. Is Dalton Welsh? I don't know. One of them's Welsh. Bond wouldn't drink a pint. That's true.

Yeah. Yeah, all right. Anyway. But what have we got? So he goes, I'm like, yeah, good. How are you? And he's like, yeah, great, man. Great.

Like this week, awesome. Last week, not so much. And I'm like, oh, why is that? And he goes, well, today, you'll never believe this. It's my one year anniversary. And then he pauses. So I go, oh, congratulations. And then he goes, don't congratulate me yet.

You don't even know what it's for. So I'm like, okay. You don't know the ways of banter with a cabbie, mate. Yeah, this is not going to end well. He is Pierce Brosnan and he's Irish. He's Irish. Okay, there you go. And I go, okay, what's your anniversary?

And he goes, today's my one year anniversary of being a vegan. And I'm like, Oh fuck. Wow. This is a 50 minute trip. So then he's proceeded to spend 50 minutes telling me about the perils of eating meat. I just straight away. I'm like,

I'm vegetarian. I'm not vegetarian, but I don't want to lecture. I know eating meat is not good for the environment and probably your body. I'm very much aware of that, but I don't need a lecture. And wait. Okay.

So, okay. Continue. He's still on Brostow. I'm'm still thinking about it i'll get to it in a second and the kind of the conversation culminated in was he was like do you think they don't you reckon they should take all the money out of like nuclear war and war in general and put it into education and i'm like yeah probably like but that's that's not a startling revelation, do you know what I mean? And also there's a lot of steps in between those two things to make that happen. It's not just a matter of distributing funds. But also what I like about this particular interaction is

that one of the clichés about a vegan is, hey, how do you know somebody's a vegan? They'll tell you. And you go, hey, how do you know somebody's a vegan? They'll immediately, yeah. They'll tell you. And you go, hey, man, you know, vegans literally harm no one, you know, and nothing. Yeah. Given the benefit of the doubt, they're good people.

I know vegans that are fine, yeah. But then he's just that guy all of a sudden. God, he really got me. Yeah. Like, what do you do, though? What do you do? Oh, you leap out. I can't, how?

I need to get to the airport Am I going to risk my amazing Uber rating? I don't think so, Mason Actually, I don't really care I don't even know what my rating is Anyway, fuck that guy Yeah Anyway

Alright Famous Okay, famous Welsh celebrities Here we go Catherine Zeta-Jones Catherine Zeta-Jones Christian Bale Richard Burton.

Anthony Hopkins. Anthony Hopkins Welsh. That's what it says here. No way. That's what it says here. Anyway, pick one and I'll do a Welsh impression using them as the basis. What are my options? Anthony Hopkins.

Catherine Zeta-Jones. Do that one. Okay, right. Oh, no. He's doing the stretchy thing from Entrapment where he's going under the lasers. And then I'm out. I reach the lasers. I've gone past the lasers.

Bam it, pet! It's Captain Zeta-Jones. Very good. Remember when he says that in the movie? I don't remember. He does. I'm not saying he doesn't. It didn't happen.

I'm saying I don't remember it. They're in the facility right at the start. They're defusing a bomb or whatever. It's before one of them gets captured or whatever. Exactly. Okay, great. Bam your pants. Bam your pants.

I bet it sounds nothing like that. I bet it sounds nothing like that. Yeah. I'm going to see if I can quickly pull it up on YouTube. If you can YouTube GoldenEye, buy me a pint. All right, here we bloody go. It's not going gonna be here or maybe it's the most viewed video on YouTube

it goes Pierce Brosnan Goldeneye buy me a pint then Gangnam Style can you tell me specifically when it is in this like is it do they part ways

is it just before they Trevelyan gets captured? Yeah, it would be just, yeah. Okay. You know what? I'm not doing this now. But everybody should, if you're at home. Tweet at us.

No. Tweet at Mason. Okay, good. I'll take it. I'll figure it out. Also, I saw Hamilton. It's great. Yeah, okay.

Yeah, it's really good. Are you going to write some sort of rap after this? Yes. You ready? I've actually already written it. I'm ready. No, I'm not. You can do it to the letters theme.

How about that? Sure. Alright, here we go. It's loading. Yeah. James is going to do his rap. Buy me a pen. Nice.

That is the that is going to be the impression of everything from now on. Buy me a pen. You got some letters, Mason? I'll find a letter. Don't you worry about that.

This is such a shit episode. No. What do you got? What's up? What are we doing? This is from Diego Reveal. Cool. Yep.

Got it. Stop masking at that. He's from Mexico City. And as you might know, a couple of days ago, there was an earthquake. Yeah, big time. It's been also, you know what? Shout outs to everybody in the world who's suffered an incredible disaster. Yeah.

Yeah, in the last week or so. Hurricanes, earthquakes. Some people like to watch Kingsman 2. But seriously. Yeah, that's, yeah. Yeah. Best wishes, man. After the earthquake, electricity was gone.

Cell phones were useless, so he couldn't contact his family or friends. There was the radio, but everything on the radio was terrible. That's terrifying. Yeah, I know, right? Anyway, he had three or four episodes of the podcast, and he listened to it, and he stayed calm while he waited for some good news. Did the good news arrive? Uh, I think he's fine now.

Okay, good. Oh man, that is full on. He's family safe. Yeah, so shout outs to anybody experiencing a disaster out there and I'm sorry you didn't have more and better entertainment preloaded on your devices. That's right.

Like Family Guy. Like Family Guy, maybe. Like American Dad. I watched someloaded on your devices. That's right. Like Family Guy. Like Family Guy, maybe. Like American Dad. I watched some of that on the plane. It's not great. American Dad. Yeah. Yeah, it's fine.

Exactly. I've got a tweet here, Mason, from Dakota Coody. I'm ready. Hashtag Weekly Planet Pod. That's how you reach the show via Twitter. Or you can send Mason an email at wickedplanetpod at gmail.com that's the one could we ever see

Hercules join the MCU maybe in a future Thor movie so Hercules is a character that exists in across multiple mediums that's right yeah

and things and he's a Marvel character also he's just a big guy with a beard he also kills robot Thor in Civil War the comic yeah I would love to see him in a movie marvel character also he's just a big guy that's true he also kills robot thor in civil war the

comic yeah uh i would love to see him in a movie but do you think do you think he's too generic yeah obviously that's the thing i think i think uh he's sort of he's he's the most the marvel's hercules is the most joyful one i think okay right and, right. So he's fun, Hercules. Yeah, and I think he would... And of course, obviously, you have to factor in that Kevin Sorbo. Sure, yes. And his incredible acting and great line reading. He's great, isn't he?

He's one of the best. But I think he would work... I think Hercules would work as an even more ridiculous foil to thor right right like you put him in a thor movie and so he's like how thor used to be when he came to earth yeah exactly really turned up to above 10 and 11 perhaps or 115 out of 10 yes exactly okay i think that'd be really good yeah no i'd be up for that so you'd have to you'd have to obviously differentiate him you couldn't just do hercules like standard hercules because we've seen so many good but you played oh so you played like super serious and

yeah what do you mean i i don't know i just i think maybe have him really i think i think you have him as a guy that Thor knows and hates. Yeah. Because he's too much. And you sort of foreshadow him as this guy that Thor cannot stand because he's too annoying. And then he shows up and he's just, again, Thor to 15. I like that, actually.

Yeah. All right. Let's do it. Yeah. And then they have to team up. They have to team up? It's party time. Oh, big time. party time ah big time

party time big time do you think though you can't can you go from Hulk sidekick Hulk to sidekick a guy who's just a bit like Thor that's a really

that's a good question anything can work Mason I think anything can work I think you're right yeah but not this no we could yeah

this is from Barnaby Jones hashtag weekly planet pod not barnaby joyce no deputy prime minister of australia not that dickhead did you guys ever read the animorphs books and how would you feel about a college age reboot that was brutally violent and bloody did you ever read the animorphs books no did you ever see the tv series no i did i remember quite liking it had a lot of morphing had a lot of like a boy turns into a wolf. Was it good morphing though? Oh, no.

Okay, great. But I remember being an okay show. Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of that Secret World of Alex Mack kind of level of, what's that? Special effects. Terrific. Were you into that show?

Yes. Very good. I wasn't into it, but I've seen it. Wow. I'm not opposed to the concept of Animorphs. It was just... Nobody's saying you're opposed to anything, Mason. You're jumping to conclusions.

You need to calm down for once in your bloody life. I'm feeling trapped like an animal here with all these accusations flying about. I just didn't see it, all right? I was too old for it, probably. Potentially. Yeah. So, but what do you think?

Okay, so this show that you didn't see that you're not for or against, what do you think of Okay, so this show that you didn't see that you're not for or against, what do you think of a college-age reboot of Animorphs, but it's bloody and violent, which means the wolf boy could tear somebody apart. Is it too close to, like, Twilight? Power Rangers. Power Rangers, yeah.

Because people are turning into wolves in Twilight. Uh-huh. And Power Rangers is kind of a gritty reboot, but this is R-rated, Mason. Oh, hello. So. Who would watch it? Well, that's the question.

I think if they were going to reboot it, they'd probably have to do it closer to the original. Right? Yeah. So then. I think it absolutely works in, it would work as a short film, like that Power Rangers, James Van Der Beek

right right yep yep yep situation which I thought was great yeah but I don't think it would work as a full film okay fair enough

or it would wow there's no bad ideas in Hollywood there's no bad ideas in Hollywood as you know no that's I don't know that

just so we're clear that is not something I agree with okay that's that the show I think it's the show thank christ all right let's wrap it up mason let's wrap it all right let's see we're weekly planet pod on facebook and gmail and twitter and bandcamp yep uh i'm at wikipedia wikipedia brown on twitter oh mr sunday movies oh mr yawny movies yeah yeah man i missed a sunday sleep in yeah mr mr mr weird sleepy cap on your

head going off to dreamland man got a little candle on a little yeah gonna snuff that out before your bed candle holder yeah that's what it's called that's what it's called uh you just hold a candle is it because of the wax probably because of the wax probably the wax yeah candles now that are waxless though they don't they though. They're obviously made of wax because they're candles. But the wax evaporates. What? So you don't get the wax running down. You just get the wax in your nostrils.

Well, that's also how a candle in a jar works, doesn't it? Because if you've got a candle in a jar, where does the wax run off to? Space. Good gravy. Anyway, keep going. I don't know where you're at in your spiel. Let's see. If you want to support the show, you want to chuck in a buck and go to patreon.com slash Mr.

Sunday movies. We're thinking about, because we read some letters from the letters, the letters box every week that we might do some Patreon bonuses where we just, every week we just burn through the mailbag. Yeah, absolutely.

Like we spend 20, 30 minutes. We just get everything, get everything out of the way. Or at least as much as we can. If anybody would be interested in that, let us know. Or any other sort of Patreon bonus content you'd like to see that we don't have the time for on the regular episode.

Right, yeah. Do it on a bonus app. Because often I'll post like the Caravan of Garbage early. Yeah, yeah. But this would be something that for people who want that, I guess. Yeah, that's right. yeah that's right people that don't want that that's fine also it's fine don't have to take it yeah absolutely you can also go to the amazon affiliate link in our episode description just click on there yep you're

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I'd love to listen to Quantum Leap, the episode-by-episode recap series. I bet that exists. Yeah. I'm going to Google it right now. Okay. Yeah, is that everything? Just about, I think. Okay, good. Do you want to Google it right now. Okay. Yeah. Is that everything? Just about, I think.

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Yeah, Raw Cullings does it. I've got a special surprise for you, Mason, within this episode. Okay. God damn it. It was a remix I found it I found Buy Me A Pipe Oh what

But somebody They put a track over the top of it Oh wow I think I heard Shake That Ass What is that in God damn it That would have been a stellar ending to this episode The internet ruins everything

Thanks a lot internet James it's okay Because I was also looking Were you really I didn't go on YouTube But but I went on Vimeo. It's right there. I'll just play it now. Go.

Bam, you're paying. Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. Very good. Thank you. I'm going to find this. Okay, you do it. We've got time. I think I've got it.

Okay. This is a good movie, probably. Goldeneye? Yeah. It's good. I think I've got it. Okay. This is a good movie, probably. GoldenEye? Yeah. It's good. I remember it being good. Hurry up. That sounds nothing like your impression.

No, that's dead on. No, that's dead on. That's dead on. Very good. All right, guys. Thanks for listening. Grab that gem, you guys. We'll see you next week.

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