The Weekly Planet - 22 Everything Guardians Of The Galaxy

Episode Date: February 24, 2014

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Starting point is 00:00:00 FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret, the other a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+. Welcome everyone to another episode of the Weekly Planet, official podcast of comicbookmovie.com. My name is James, junior editor at Comic Book Movie. You may know me as Mr. Sunday. And joining me this week is my special new co-host, Chris Hemsworth. Welcome to the show, Chris. Do you want me to retract? Which one am I again? That's Thor, right? Or is it the other one?
Starting point is 00:00:56 That's Thor, yeah. Okay, right. Okay, yep. Sorry. Nice and welcome. It's great to be here. Do you think anybody fell for that, and do you think they were annoyed as you were when I did that? I think they're certainly annoyed that it isn't Chris Hemsworth. So thanks for that.
Starting point is 00:01:09 Okay. Well, there will be Hemsworth news, though. So I guess that will make up for it. It won't make up for it. Certainly not to the fans. I understand. Yeah. Cool.
Starting point is 00:01:15 All right. Let's get into it, mate. You've driven a stake into the heart of this already. Or a hammer into its skull, if you will. Or whatever Liam Hemsworth does. You've driven a Miley Cyrus into this that's what you've done mate alright
Starting point is 00:01:28 Mason I thought we'd start with the amazing Spider-Man 2 news okay great I showed you an amazing Spider-Man 2 picture
Starting point is 00:01:33 which was amazing of the new goblin or whatever version of the goblin well he's green so it can't be the hobgoblin by default
Starting point is 00:01:39 no but there are multiple versions of the green goblin is that correct there's at least 30,000 of them yeah there's 30 There's at least 30,000 of them? Yeah, there's at least 30,000 variations.
Starting point is 00:01:47 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is it the worst Goblin look ever, bearing in mind there was also the new Goblin in Spider-Man 3, or do you love it? Well, as I understand it, they were going for sort of a Chester Bennington in Linkin Park kind of look, and so they've absolutely nailed it in that regard. I thought, and I thought I was the only one who realised this,
Starting point is 00:02:05 but then I realised everybody on the internet thought of it also. He looks like Evil Ed from The Fright Night, the first Fright Night. Oh, the porn star guy. The guy who we found out that one week, he did regular movies, transitioned into gay porn, and then somehow transitioned back into regular movies. Yeah, like a couple of years ago.
Starting point is 00:02:21 The only person who's probably ever done that. It's probably, it's got to be the least fun person. So, yeah. What do you think of that look, though? I mean, people don't like it. No, I don't. It's a weird mashed together suit. Yeah, I'm a little bit concerned that they're going all of Spider-Man's villains are now the result of Oscorp's scientific experiments.
Starting point is 00:02:42 All the octopus arms and the rhinos. They're all there. They're all in there. But I guess, you know, if you want to build that universe, fine. Go ahead. You're okay with it? But it looks real dumb.
Starting point is 00:02:51 Wouldn't you rather? I don't understand. Also, bearing in mind, I haven't seen the first one. I may or may not see the second one. But also, though, isn't it... How hard is it to get the goblin right?
Starting point is 00:03:01 This is the third time we've had a goblin... It's not hard. And as you've said, we've seen that... The test footage. The test footage of the goblin we've had a Goblin. It's not hard. And as you've said, we've seen that. The test footage. The test footage of the Goblin face, which looks really good. From like 2001.
Starting point is 00:03:08 That's probably on a shelf somewhere. They could use that. That's right. Yeah. Oh, well. Well, maybe this is not going to be the Goblin because he's Harry Osborn. He's not Norman Osborn. So maybe the next film will be the actual Green Goblin.
Starting point is 00:03:21 It's too long to wait. Or use one of the other hundreds of villains he has. Vulture. Kraven the Hunter. Mysterio. A guy with a brick. Yeah. A guy, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Brickatron. Yeah. Any of those. The mortarboard. Look, I think it looks great. The movie looks great. Yeah. I like the costume.
Starting point is 00:03:42 I liked the new trailer. You know, not a good choice. The movie looks great. I like the costume. I liked the new trailer. Not a good choice. And also, that's not a good choice for a promotional image either. Was that leaked on the internet? No, that was a proper promotional. Well, it looks dumb. People said it was spoilery because he's got the Spider-Man pinned down.
Starting point is 00:04:00 You know what? Yeah. No, that's not really. At some point, somebody's going to be... Yeah, there's got to be some point somebody's gonna be like if yeah there's gotta be some sort of conflict of some sort
Starting point is 00:04:09 if he wasn't pinned down at some point I would be like you know what I was thinking like the last couple of episodes we've done we've kind of
Starting point is 00:04:15 spoiled ourselves with a lot of stuff like the where Robocop came out and I remember hearing some news reports before it was released about how
Starting point is 00:04:24 you know it's gonna be there going to be the blue Robocop and he's going to look a certain way and then they're going to militarise him and there's going to be some sort of marketing session where they decide he doesn't look military enough and so they make him black and then this happens and all that came true in the movie.
Starting point is 00:04:38 That's right, yeah. No surprises. Are we ruining everything for ourselves? Yes, we are. And for the listeners. Well, you know what though? The last Spider-Man movie, which you haven't seen, is yet to be ruined for yourself. We're going to do an audio commentary track for it.
Starting point is 00:04:49 We were talking about it today, weren't we? Yes, we were. It's very exciting. Not that exciting. It's really exciting. It's really exciting, yeah. Somebody put all the clips together that were released online for that movie before it came out, and it was something like 45 minutes of footage.
Starting point is 00:05:01 Wow, see? Yeah. So, you know, there are no surprises in filmmaking anymore, Mason. Or there are if you're the guy J.J. Abrams. But his surprises are no good. Name a good J.J. Abrams surprise. He sent you that birthday card. Yeah, that was nice. Absolutely, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Put my kids through college. That was nice of him. Name a J.J. Abrams surprise that isn't just a monster. I was going to say the Cloverfield monster, but then you surprise that isn't just a monster i was gonna say the cloverfield monster but then you said that isn't a monster so i don't have anything yeah there were more lens flares than i thought they'd be in star trek that's true yeah you got me yep you son of a bitch let's move it along mason okay you're a fan of the original space jam no are you a fan of the original space jam website yes i was gonna say that's still up inexplicably i'm a fan of that if you if anybody has not seen it you gotta if you type in space the original Space Jam website? Yes, I was going to say it's still up inexplicably. I'm a fan of that.
Starting point is 00:05:45 If anybody has not seen it, if you type in Space Jam original website or whatever, it's a website from like 1996, and it's completely unchanged. Like the text is a weird colour, so it doesn't gel with the background. And it's like a black background with stars on it. It's hard to read text over it.
Starting point is 00:06:03 It's so great. Some spinning things, some spinning icons, probably the pinnacle of GIF technology at the time. That's right, exactly. I don't understand how that is still up. I mean, I'm amazed and I'm impressed. Yeah, you're glad that it's still up. Yeah, of course I am.
Starting point is 00:06:17 But hey, each to their own. Anyway, you have Space Jam news. No, I just wanted to talk about the old website. Oh yeah, it's great, isn't it? No, no, it was rumoured that, it was said actually, I think Deadline reported they were like, LeBron James is going to be the new Space Jam in Space Jam 2. Fantastic. Keep jamming.
Starting point is 00:06:34 Space. Kevin Spacey. I don't know. So what do you think of that, if it happened or not? Has LeBron James acted in anything before? Did Michael Jordan act in anything before? No. I'm sure he was in things. Is LeBron James as good anything before? Did Michael Jordan act in anything before? No I'm sure he was in things Is LeBron James as good a basketball player as Michael Jordan?
Starting point is 00:06:49 Well, Mason, as you know, I'm a massive fan of whatever sport that is And there is much debate Some people say Jordan is the greatest ever though Some people say he's not Some people say that Jordan is also a better person But I'll tell you this much They're both pricks You'll put your foot down I will Some people say that Jordan is also a better person, but I'll tell you this much, they're both pricks.
Starting point is 00:07:07 You'll put your foot down. I will. There's also that rumor going around that Michael Jordan was like, he didn't get picked for his high school basketball team, and then he became the best basketball player, right? But what actually happened was, he didn't get picked because he was underage at the time. So it wasn't because he wasn't good enough, it was just because, well, he's 14 and the team's for
Starting point is 00:07:25 17 year olds oh I see right so it gives people like us who are really good at basketball but not at the NBA level yeah
Starting point is 00:07:32 hope I've kicked all kinds of goals in basketball let me tell you that's it right through the net or the posts in the pocket
Starting point is 00:07:40 yeah that's right like at the edge of the table that's it down the felt and you get it in the pocket yeah I've done that yeah yeah but anyway LeB lebron james's people came out and said not a thing yet so it could happen it might not is anyone really ready for another looney tunes film well we all loved looney tunes back in action nope we all loved looney tunes space jam
Starting point is 00:07:59 no there was that bit in it where there was like pulp fiction where they referenced pulp i remember that's the only bit I remember, yeah. I don't care. They can make it or not. I think the kids will love it because the kids love Space Jam. I remember seeing Space Jam at the time because when we were kids, I don't know if you remember, it was cool to have a basketball singlet. Oh, sure, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:15 And over a T-shirt for a team that you didn't understand. Right, like the Charlotte Hornets. Exactly. Which was the most... I've had a discussion with people about this. The Charlotte Hornets starter jacket, the most 90s garment of all time. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:26 Because it's a nice microfiber. It's big and blousy. It's like teal and aqua. Yeah. Teal and purple, rather. The most 90s colour combination of all time. Yeah. You're right, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:37 I didn't know a single player from that team. But it did... But by God, I supported them. The kids... Are kids still on board with Looney Tunes? No. No. But this would bring them back. But I would argue the kids weren't on board. No Looney Tunes no no but this would bring them back
Starting point is 00:08:45 but I would argue the kids weren't on board no that's not true in the 90s when we were kids Tiny Toon Adventures Tiny Toon Adventures that was a kind of revamp
Starting point is 00:08:51 they had the Animaniacs and a whole bunch of stuff that happened yeah yeah so I would say less than ever I reckon this is doomed yep
Starting point is 00:08:57 alright yeah but then again you get someone like LeBron James who fucking cares let's move on why are we talking about this for so long
Starting point is 00:09:04 I don't know the more we talk about it the more it'll unravel that we don't know anything about basketball. And then people will storm the gates with pitchforks and torches. Wow. Mason, I'm sure you've heard the fantastic foreign news this week. Now, this hasn't been officially confirmed by the studios, but apparently this is a lock, these forecast members. Some were confirmed or rumoured before. Two of them are new. But let's go through
Starting point is 00:09:25 the Mason. Michael Jordan, the basketball player. Incorrect. Michael B. Jordan, the basketball player. Also incorrect, but you're getting there. Basketball. No, go back the other way. Michael B. Jordan, the actor. Getting warmer.
Starting point is 00:09:37 No, that's his name. Okay, right, yeah. He'll be Johnny Storm. I think of the casting choices, I think that's the best one. I know people are like, oh, he's African-American, it doesn't work, whatever. I think it's good because it'll annoy people. Yeah, that's right. Exactly, yeah. So, we don't know if him and Sue Storm are brother and sister.
Starting point is 00:09:55 I mean, maybe they're ones adopted. They could be adopted, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Maybe they're from, you know. Okay. Yeah. I'm on board with that. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Yeah, yeah. I always wanted Donald Glover to be the new Spider-Man. Yeah. You've seen that, right? Definitely. I love Donald Glover. But I think Spider-Man. You've seen that, right? Definitely. I love Donald Glover. But I think he's taken a step back from acting for his... Childish Gambino, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Childish Gambino, yeah. His rap careers. But yeah. But you know what? They'll probably reboot Spider-Man in the next four months. They will almost certainly. So we could get a... Miles Morales?
Starting point is 00:10:18 That's his name? The ultimate Spider-Man, yes. I've never read it. I've heard it's great. I should read it. But Kate Mara, she's in House of Cards. Okay, sure.
Starting point is 00:10:27 She is Sue Storm. A lot of people don't like this. I don't know why. She's just fine, I guess. But you know what? It's because that's all anyone can say about Sue Storm casting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:38 It's either terrible or it's fine. Yeah, that's it. Do you know anything about her? No. You've never been to her house? No. No, I should, though, shouldn't I? Do you know anything about her? No. You've never been to her house? No. No, I should though, shouldn't I? Yeah, just wait for her.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Yeah, good call. She's great in House of Cards. That's a great show. Hang on, what was her name again? I'm going to look her up. Kate Mara. Well, look, the first Google suggestion is Kate Mara, hot. Hot, question mark?
Starting point is 00:11:01 No, hot. So we're probably on to a winner. Yeah, yeah. Okay, cool. I'm on board Cool alright She looks a bit like What's that
Starting point is 00:11:07 Isla Fisher Isla Fisher Australia's own Isla Fisher Sure yeah Australia's own yeah yeah So I think that's That's an okay piece of casting as well Next one
Starting point is 00:11:15 I'm not wrapped in Bearing in mind as well I don't care about The Fantastic Four No this is real This is real nitpicking On a franchise We don't care about
Starting point is 00:11:22 Exactly I've established this before I don't like reading There's no real shots of her on a franchise we don't care about. I've established this before. I don't like Reed Richards. There's no real shots of her as a blonde here. No. Whatever. Jesse Alba's not blonde. Yeah, true.
Starting point is 00:11:30 But anyway. That worked out really well. Miles Teller as Mr. Fantastic. Is that the silent magician? Possibly. He doesn't talk? Penn's friend? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Is that who we're talking about? Oh, right. Okay. No, he's been in a bunch of stuff recently. He's 27. He looks pretty young as well. Uh-huh. He's not very...
Starting point is 00:11:49 First of all, why is Mr. Fantastic the only one with Fantastic in his superhero name? Because he's really, really up himself. Okay. Yeah, I think that's pretty much it. He could probably physically do that as well. Yeah, definitely. Just get right up himself. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:04 But yeah, I'm not sure about this guy. He's kind of got a weird kind of, I don't know, soft face. stretchy tail. Yeah, definitely. Just get right up himself. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm not sure about this guy. He's kind of got a weird kind of, I don't know, soft face. He looks very young, yeah. Yeah, he looks very young. But from what I've seen, he's a decent actor. Yeah, yeah, and he could be like an arrogant young genius kind of thing. Can you see the grey in his hair? Can you see the grey temples?
Starting point is 00:12:20 I think it'll look very artificial. Yeah. If they're in the cosmic accident and then all of a sudden he's got grey temples Which is what happened in the last Fantastic Four movie If you remember correctly And the last one is really strange Jamie Bell He was Billy Elliot
Starting point is 00:12:34 He was in Jumper The one where Channing Tatum was a Roman Was he in Jumper? He wasn't He's like the rogue Jumper He's Jumper's mate's Jumper's mate. Yeah, Jumper's mate. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh, he was, he mo-capped Tintin.
Starting point is 00:12:49 He was the mo-cap. He, he wore the ping pong balls. Yeah. Okay. All right. He's Ben Grimm. Um. I'll tell you why it's okay and not okay.
Starting point is 00:12:57 Yes. Unless you want to say something. Well, he doesn't look like, I always picture Ben Grimm, human Ben Grimm. Yeah. As kind of like your, your bruiser. Like Michael Chiglis. Like, yeah, like exactly,. Like Michael Chiglis. Yeah, exactly. Exactly like Michael Chiglis. Before I even knew who Michael Chiglis was, that's how I imagined a human thing.
Starting point is 00:13:10 A human Ben Grimm. Yeah, exactly. It won't matter when it's mo-cap, right? Andy Serkis played King Kong. Andy Serkis isn't really a giant ape. No, that's true. That we know about. What are you hiding from us, Hollywood?
Starting point is 00:13:24 But as, I mean, obviously they'd probably show him pre-accident. Yeah. Which would be a bit strange. Because he's, I looked up his height. Not that height matters in movies. Because people are like, Batman should be at least 6'2 exactly or whatever. He's like 170 centimetres. Which isn't very tall.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Put that in the Imperial. How many feet and inches is that? That's 1,000 yards. Oh, that'll do. That'll definitely do it. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, people did not like most of the majority of this casting.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Yeah. I think it's got a good director. We don't really know anything about the story. It's touch and go, I guess, at this point for a movie we really care about. Yeah, yeah. I've looked up the origin of the Fantastic Four, like the origin panels. Johnny Storm's like, I'm calling myself a human torch and I'm with you all the way.
Starting point is 00:14:07 And they do that. They all put their hands in. Is his hand on fire when he puts his hand in? No, he's put it out. He's put it out. Okay, good. Same goes for me. The Invisible Girl.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Ben Grimm's like, Is she saying Invisible Girl or Invisible Woman? Invisible Girl. She becomes Invisible Woman later. Because that's a big point of contention with this as well. People say, how dare they call her an Invisible Girl? That's an insult.
Starting point is 00:14:23 She's a woman. She's a woman. She's a woman. Initially, she was the invisible girl. There you go. I didn't know that. Because I don't read comics from the 60s because they're shit. That's a really good point. I ain't Ben anymore. I'm what Susan called me, the thing. So that's sad for him. And then
Starting point is 00:14:37 Red Richards is like... Wait, Susan called him the thing? Yep. That's really mean. Yeah. He's just had a horrible accident. It's like someone loses their legs and they're like, where'd it go, Stumpy? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're going to call you
Starting point is 00:14:48 Stumpy now. I mean, first she calls him like an ugly orange rock skin real prick. And then he's like, and I'll call, Reed Richards is like, and I'll call myself
Starting point is 00:14:57 Mr. Fantastic. So really kick, really put the boot in. Like, I'm a monster. Oh, I'm Mr. Fantastic. So. There you go. Yeah. We've I'm a monster. I'm Mr. Fantastic. So... There you go. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:08 We've all learned something today. So would you recommend that issue? Issue one of the Fantastic Four? Probably not. Just look up Fantastic Four Origin on Google and it'll appear in front of your very eyes. Absolutely. You could use this as an audio commentary as well as you're reading that panel. Yes, please do.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Okay. Well, look, Mason, people hate Fox because they have the Fantastic Four and they want people to give it back. They will never give it back.
Starting point is 00:15:36 No. Why would they? It makes some money. It makes some money, exactly. If they gave it to Marvel, Marvel would probably turn out something really great, I'd imagine.
Starting point is 00:15:45 Not to say that this won't turn out great. Who's to say, Mason? I'm going to put my foot down and say it won't be great. Okay, sure. The odds are stacked against it, certainly. You're right. A good director, though. But anyway.
Starting point is 00:15:54 Do we know who's directing it? Josh Drag, Chronicle. Oh, yeah, okay. Which, again, you haven't... Could go either way, as far as I'm concerned. Sure. Well, he's only done one movie, but it's a good one. But people yelling for Fox to give it back,
Starting point is 00:16:04 they're not going to give it back. You could yell all you want, why would they give it back? They're going to keep making movies until it's not profitable to make theatrical releases anymore. Then they'll go direct to DVD. Which they did, like they did that version in the 90s. Yeah. The infamous Fantastic Four movie, Roger Corman, that was never released, just to keep the rights. Right, exactly, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:23 So there, there you go. But they did give back Daredevil and some other stuff as well. But I think the Punisher, I think they stole like a bowl of fruit, which they were forced to return. Oh, wow. It was wax fruit too. Yeah. That's the only reason they gave it back.
Starting point is 00:16:37 Because the Fox executive was like just munching down on it. He's like, whoa. And he took a couple more bites. This isn't a superhero movie. I'm eating wax fruit. Where does this podcast go, Massive? I don't know. But anyway, Fox also, there was X-Men news this week.
Starting point is 00:16:54 Some people consider this a spoiler. I don't consider it a massive spoiler. We'll see. And you know how I feel about spoilers now. You love them. I'm against them again. Oh, okay. Skip ahead a bit if you're worried about this.
Starting point is 00:17:04 It's basically about... I can't skip ahead. No, you can Skip ahead a bit if you're worried about this. It's basically about... I can't skip ahead. No, you can't. You put me in the right spot. I'll tell you what. I'll say it. If you don't like it, I'll go back and take it out. Of my memories.
Starting point is 00:17:14 Yes. All right. How bad can this go? You probably say, well, you know Beast in the X-Men. He appears in stills as a human, as a human man. The reason apparently that is because he's developed a serum which controls his beastliness. But then, Mason, when he gets... Beastiality, if you will.
Starting point is 00:17:34 I say get that under control. I agree. That's one thing we have a firm stance on in this podcast, isn't it? Yeah. When he gets enraged, that's when he becomes the beast. Like... The Hulk. I was going to say Batman
Starting point is 00:17:45 but yeah the Hulk's probably a better example right sure what do you think of that people don't like it what do you think of it it's a bit derivative isn't it
Starting point is 00:17:52 it sure is nah I don't like it yeah me neither it's not great but you know what I guess they intended it as more of a Jekyll and Hyde thing
Starting point is 00:17:58 yeah and I guess also it keeps the budget down that's true it could be human for most of it yeah that's it and who wants to be
Starting point is 00:18:04 they just need big hand and feet prosthetics. That's right, yeah. That's exactly it. The Expendables 3 Mason. Are you familiar with that movie? Have you seen it? No, it's not out yet. Correct.
Starting point is 00:18:14 Yeah, we can bypass the test. The director of that, whose demo I didn't put down, he is going to remake... Rexpendable. Yes, that's his name. Yes. It's a vanity project more than anything.
Starting point is 00:18:25 It sure is. He's going to remake The Raid, an American westernized version of The Raid. Huh. Didn't The Raid 2 just come out? I think it either has come out or it's about to come out. Or it is...
Starting point is 00:18:38 I don't know. No, no, no, but yeah. I haven't seen The Raid. You've seen The Raid? Yes. I've heard it's great. It is great, yeah. Now, the interesting thing is that it's rumoured that the people they're looking for to take
Starting point is 00:18:49 on the lead roles are the Hemsworth brothers, who are great. They're certainly great podcast hosts. But they're not martial artists. And a big part of The Raid is... I've watched clips of The Raid on YouTube or whatever. It's crazy, insane martial arts. Yeah, yeah. And as good as those guys are, I like them. They whatever. It's crazy, insane martial arts. Yeah, yeah. And as good as those guys are, I like them.
Starting point is 00:19:07 They're good guys. They're not martial artists. So would it be kind of a more run-and-gun kind of standard action movie? Well, on the one hand, you've got, say, The Matrix, where you wouldn't have... Pre-The Matrix, you wouldn't have thought Keanu Reeves was any good at martial arts, right? Well, no, I didn't think that. No, exactly, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:22 So I feel, you know, you could train somebody in movie martial arts fairly soundly you can yeah but the raid really raised the bar as far as what is possible yeah i guess again not having seen the whole thing right the raid i've only seen the trailer for the raid too and that yeah that looks incredible too yeah there's some really but i mean it's more yeah i have to wonder do when when there's a really spectacular martial arts sequence is that due to the the martial artists or is it really spectacular martial arts sequence, is that due to the martial artists? Or is it due to the choreographer? Or is it due to just people having ideas? Does the director come up with a great idea for that or what have you?
Starting point is 00:19:54 Good point, Mason. I'd imagine the martial artists, though, would play a pretty big role, right? I'm going to say, though, that the actors having some sort of charisma on screen, probably better than them not being martial arts experts. Okay, fair point. You've given this a new spin, Mason. I have, but at the same time, apparently the Oldboy remake is really terrible. Yeah, I haven't seen it, but yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:14 In my latest video, I listed a whole lot of the Western remakes of Asian cinema. There's actually some pretty good ones. Do you want me to name some? Yes, give me an example. Despicable Me 2. Wait a second. Monsters University. No, you're thinking of Pixar films. give me an example. Despicable Me 2. Wait a second. Monsters University.
Starting point is 00:20:25 No, you're thinking of Pixar films. I am. Sorry. Yeah. The Departed. Oh, yeah. Okay, good. Fistful of Dollars.
Starting point is 00:20:33 Yeah, okay. Magnificent Seven. All right. Star Wars is sort of a remake of The Hidden Fortress. Okay, yeah. The Ring, sort of. I think it fared better at the time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:43 The Ring 2. Ring-a-ding-ding, I call it. I don't know what it's called. I. The Ring 2. Ring-a-ding-ding, I call it. I don't know what it's called. I haven't seen it. Ring-a-ding-ding is another thing. Yeah. I haven't seen it. Apparently it's not that good.
Starting point is 00:20:51 There's a whole lot of Japanese horror remakes, most of which are terrible. Ah, yeah. Like The Grudge. Yeah. But generally, you know, you've got then your Godzilla 1998. So I would say there's more bad than good, but occasionally you get a good one. So what you're saying is this has a less than good chance of being good. It's got a 35% chance of not being the worst movie ever made.
Starting point is 00:21:08 Fantastic. Well, I'm on board, quite frankly. All right, then. Now, Jai Courtney, we talked about him last week. He's in Spartacus. He was Bruce Willis' son in A Good Day to Be Bruce Willis' Son. He did get the role of Kyle Reese in the new Terminator reboot. Yippee.
Starting point is 00:21:24 That's locked in. Good for him. I know, right? I like that guy, but I'm worried he's going to end up suffering from Sam Worthington syndrome. We figure out he's not that good at acting. Yeah, exactly. Or that charismatic. But nobody really wants to see him on screen.
Starting point is 00:21:36 That's right. And nothing against Sam Worthington. That being said, all of those things you said are true about him. But Jai Courtney's great. Great American accent, though. I was about to say, you know what? Sam Wor wellington's american accent is how i am talking right now yeah that is his american accent but yeah jai courtney's great in spartacus but i haven't really seen him do anything that good yet so i hope i hope he's really good because he seems
Starting point is 00:21:58 like a good guy and i hope it works out for him what's the premise of this new term okay so basically uh yeah it's a sort of a reboot reimagining. I'm assuming they're going to reset the timeline. Sorry about my phone, Mason. God. I know. Do you forgive me? You're unprofessional.
Starting point is 00:22:12 Hang on, let me just check what it's from. Oh, it's... Oh, thank you. Udit Hamesh. He retweeted my Guardians of the Galaxy video. Good for him. There you go. There you go.
Starting point is 00:22:21 Sweet shout-out. I said his name wrong. Poor shout-out. Poor shout-out There you go. Sweet shout out. I said his name wrong. Poor shout out. Poor shout out, but thank you, that guy. Where are we going with this? What was I saying? Oh, yeah. So, basically, Schwarzenegger's in it again, but I think it's going to be like a Star Trek
Starting point is 00:22:36 reboot kind of timeline thing. Right. Because I think they bring Sarah Connor into the future or something. That's the idea. Okay. Because the chick from Game of Thrones who's got the dragons, she's Sarah Connor. Yeah. A lot of other things happen.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Okay. We loved Terminator Salvation, though, didn't we? No. We didn't love that movie. Correct. We've come to a consensus now. Good. Good.
Starting point is 00:22:53 So there you go. Now, Mason. Yes. Exciting news. I'm ready. Oh, mate, you're going to love this. This better not be Shia LaBeouf news. There is no Shia LaBeouf news this year.
Starting point is 00:23:02 Oh, we did it. I was going to say this year or this week. Then roll on the Batman Superman news. There is no Batman Superman news thisouf news this year Oh we did it I was going to say This year or this week Then roll on The Batman Superman news There is no Batman Superman news We're running a deficit I'm a little bit scared
Starting point is 00:23:10 I'll be honest with you Could you look something up Real quick Just to see Sure Okay what other news Do you have Okay
Starting point is 00:23:16 Well Principal Photography Has started On Entourage The movie Wow Your favourite show I'm kind of hoping that Production on the movie
Starting point is 00:23:24 Will stall And then the movie Will hoping that Production on the movie will stall And then the movie will be off And then the movie will be back on And then we can all do the movie We run this town bitches Yeah Every episode of Entourage Yeah
Starting point is 00:23:35 Shit show As I said I've watched every episode Do you want to hear the synopsis Yes They're back in Will this save me from watching the actual film I don't know Mason
Starting point is 00:23:42 Okay here we go I'm ready They're back in business With super agent Turned studio head Ari Gold. Some of their ambitions may have changed, but the bond between them remains strong as they navigate the capricious and often cutthroat world of Hollywood. I like how they've led with Ari Gold there, because clearly he's the only character on that show with any kind of charisma. He's the breakout, because the superstar guy who's supposed to be like your Mark Wahlberg
Starting point is 00:24:04 or your whoever. He's not very interesting. he's a charisma vacuum really he really is yeah yeah wow that's pretty pretty great yeah i do remember watching an episode of entourage and it's it's they're they're trying to drive around the movie's out whatever movie it was and it's like a really hot day and they're trying to drive around that was the aquaman movie yeah they're trying to drive around to to go to cinemas and shops so people like hey it's those guys in the movie or whatever and then they get stuck in traffic and so they go to like a motorbike store and the guy behind the motorbike store can is like oh i love you guys you're in the movie and then they he gives them free motorbikes and then they go to some kids party and and they're like we'll come to your
Starting point is 00:24:42 party kid and then all the all these friends like, you're the coolest kid in the world. And they're like, we run this town. It was great. I wish I was watching it right now. Not doing this podcast. If you do want to watch that, there's an audio commentary track you can play over that episode as you watch it.
Starting point is 00:24:58 Just space it out a little bit. Yeah, that's it. Now, Mason, apparently the hunt is on for a Doctor Strange director. Four names have been thrown up from Marvel. I thought you were going to say for a Doctor Strange actor, because I could put the grey in the temples. Miles Teller.
Starting point is 00:25:13 You could Miles Teller it. Tweed little mustache. That'd be great. Okay, so basically this has been Kevin Feige. By the winds of Watoom! That's a thing that he says. That's pretty good. Yeah, right?
Starting point is 00:25:22 And your American accent is nearly as good as Sam Whirlick's. I'll work on it. It's Kevin Feige's dream project, apparently. He's been wanting to get this off the ground for a while. Everybody's got a favourite, and it's always a weird favourite. That's why Aquaman sticks around, because everybody loves Aquaman. All the DC presidents have loved Aquaman for some reason. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:25:40 Who's your favourite? Not Aquaman. I think it's Iron Man, isn't it? Yeah, probably. My favourite's probably Despicable Me 2. Again, that's a Pixar film, I think. You can like what you like, Mason. I will.
Starting point is 00:25:52 You shouldn't hate on me. I'm going to hate on you. No, it's... You said when we started this thing that I could hate on you all I wanted. I did say that, you're right. Unlimited hating on you. So get ready, alright? Alright, so one of the directors is mark andrews what would you know
Starting point is 00:26:06 nothing not a damn thing that was just some hating okay right gotcha mark andrews is the co-director of brave apparently okay going up there brave is apparently i have not seen it but one of the weaker pixar films not to say it's a bad movie they say but comparatively to others comparatively to say cars 2 which is amazing you've gotten some facts there right uh nikolai it's it's n-i-k-o-l-a-j so it's probably pronounced a different way than what i said or you've written it down wrong no i double checked this one uh i've written it down right i remember arcel he did a royal affair which I have not seen or know about
Starting point is 00:26:45 Dean is nah this one's definitely changed because his last name has changed to Israelite which I don't think no that's autocorrect it's gone mad sure
Starting point is 00:26:53 he's the director of the upcoming sci-fi film Yesterday whoever that guy is he's being considered haven't seen the trailer for it meant to look it up don't know
Starting point is 00:27:01 the only one I really know is Jonathan Levine he did Warm Bodies and 50-50. 50-50 is great. Warm Bodies is okay. Fantastic. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:10 Any thoughts on those directors? One of which I didn't get the name right? No. Mads Mikkelsen. I know Mads Mikkelsen. He was Le Chiffre. Yep.
Starting point is 00:27:19 Le Traife. Uh-huh. He's Hannibal also in the Hannibal series. Yeah, and he was the Bond villain with the blood eye. And he's in some sort of
Starting point is 00:27:25 European dog detective show you know one of those ones okay you know it's like a Inspector Rex kind of thing is it Inspector Rex I think he's
Starting point is 00:27:32 no he's in one of those cool maybe there's no dog but I think it's funnier if there's a dog it sure is yeah apparently he's up
Starting point is 00:27:38 for the title role one of the people oh okay we've also heard John Depp Jonathan Depp John Depp yep
Starting point is 00:27:44 we've also heard the guy frompp. Jonathan Depp? John Depp. Yep. We've also heard the guy from Mad Men. John Hamm. Jonathan Hamms. Oh, yeah, okay. Well, he's supposed to be a surgeon, isn't he, before he goes mystic?
Starting point is 00:27:53 Yep. So, I think you could chuck in a John Hamm. Yeah, okay. Or not. Yeah. Doesn't really matter. Or an actual surgeon.
Starting point is 00:27:59 Or an actual vet. Patrick Dempsey. He was a surgeon. Yeah, good point. In real life? No, actor. Okay, good. I've gotten things confused again. The real world's confusing. Alright, Mason. Patrick Dempsey He was a surgeon Yeah good point In real life? No Actor Okay good
Starting point is 00:28:06 I've gotten things confused again The real world's confusing Alright Mason Gotham News Here we go Sad news in a way Yes But before we get into that
Starting point is 00:28:14 Jada Pinkett Smith People say It's from the Matrix trilogy But it's really The last two The last two Not good Matrixes Yep great
Starting point is 00:28:21 She's been cast as Fish Mooney Remember last week I said Fish Mooney I meant to ask her I said have you ever Heard of Fish Mooney? Because great. She's been cast as Fish Mooney. Remember last week I said Fish Mooney? I meant to ask you, I said, have you ever heard of Fish Mooney? Because I'd never heard of them. Apparently Fish Mooney is made up for this show. Not a good name for a gangster, is it? Fish Mooney. She's Fish Mooney.
Starting point is 00:28:36 Yes. I don't like it. Do you want to hear Fish Mooney's deal? Is she a fish? Yes. Okay, I think I've got the deal then. What has Jada Pinkett Smith been in since the Matrix movie? Surely she's been in something else. She's got a band. Doesn't count.
Starting point is 00:28:50 I'm sure she's in a rom-com where she's a best friend. Oh, that's probably it. No, she's still abrasive to be a best friend. You don't like the Smith family? I'm going to look it up while you tell me the deal with Fish Mooney. Sure. I've just got, is a fish here. Oh, we nailed that. No, as sadistic gangster boss and nightclub owner, Why don't you tell me the deal with Fish Mooney? Sure. I've just got, is a fish here. So...
Starting point is 00:29:05 Oh, we nailed that. Yeah. No, a sadistic gangster boss and nightclub owner, Fish Mooney's got the street smarts and almost extra sensory abilities to rude people, to read people like an open book. Fish Mooney.
Starting point is 00:29:19 Sounds like she's got like a psychic link thing. I always think that like a female gangster should have a sexy name. Like Fish Mooney. Like Fish Mooney. So we've nailed this. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, totally. Anything in particular?
Starting point is 00:29:31 Like legs kick back? Yeah, legs kick back, certainly. But there's like Roulette. Oh, yeah. She's a DC villain. That's a sexy lady name, right? Yeah, you're right. Gangster kind of name.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Gambling. It's got all that in there. Often when they add characters to like comic book TV shows, they don't really gel well with the rest. Yeah, you're right. Gangster kind of name. Gambling, it's got all that in there. Often when they add characters to like comic book TV shows, they don't really gel well with the rest. Yeah, I guess so. Maybe it'll work really well. I think this person, she's signed on for a year. I think she purely exists for
Starting point is 00:29:55 Oswell Cobblepot to be a henchman and then for him to take over from her. That's what I assume this is about. Yes, yes. And then Matrix 4. Yeah. Did you find out if she was in anything? She was in Collateral. There you go. And then Matrix 4. Yeah. Did you find out if she was in anything? She was in Collateral. There you go. I don't remember that. She was in...
Starting point is 00:30:08 She's been in some animated films. She's been in the Madagascar films. Oh, yeah. She's the zebra. And she was in Reign Over Me with... She was in what?
Starting point is 00:30:16 Reign Over Me. It's got... Oh, yeah. I've seen it. Yeah, yeah. Okay, yeah. There you go. And Adam Sandler
Starting point is 00:30:21 plays Shadow the Colossus in it. That's a great game. Okay, yeah. And Don Cheadle, yeah. So, anyway, Gotham News. Yes. Thanks to everybody who participated in the hashtag McKenzie mustache debacle. It was an absolute amazing feedback from people.
Starting point is 00:30:36 So many people got on board. Bombarded him. Too many to name, but I've got a few shoutouts that I'd like to give. Okay, please do. Josh Walker photoshopped a nice photo of Benjamin McKenzie with a moustache. That was great. That was good. Photoshop's probably too strong a word there.
Starting point is 00:30:49 MS painted, but I love it. MS painted. Doesn't matter. No. Like I said, every moustache helps. Exactly. People such as Alex Wigger and Victor S-A-H-A-G-U-N. S-A-H-A-G-U-N.
Starting point is 00:31:01 Anyway, they signed up for Twitter specifically to harass Benjamin McKenzie. That's what Twitter's for. I know. E.H. Von Bronstein made an amazing poster. You know it's got the bat symbol mustache? Yes, I did see that. You see that one? That was great.
Starting point is 00:31:15 That was amazing. So good. And that inspired Baked Boons. Good friend of the show, Baked Boons. Love that guy. No, he's good. I like him. He was inspired to grow his own batman style mustache
Starting point is 00:31:27 oh i'd like to see progress on that i know me too um there's too many supporters to name yeah that being said mackenzie mustache was a failure benjamin so far it's a work in progress it's a work in progress i say we continue to hack at him all right you're right no response at all no response at all did he block anyone he probably blocked us block anyone? He probably blocked us. Not aware of that. Don't know. But I do know that he has been on Twitter this week because there was a few days where he wasn't doing anything. He retweeted...
Starting point is 00:31:49 He's probably undercover. He probably got underground. That's it. Out of fear of hashtag Mackenzie mustache. What I thought maybe, I thought, do we go on the attack? Do we harass Benjamin Mackenzie more? But then I thought, no, that's not how things get done. We go to his...
Starting point is 00:32:02 No. We've been super nice to Benjamin McKenzie. Say something like, if you're going to continue it, and we would love it if you did, be like, Benjamin McKenzie, big fan of your character in the OC. Maybe you should have ended up with Marissa or whatever. Uh-huh, sure. That being said. Did that not happen?
Starting point is 00:32:18 No, because she died. Oh. Because she was too good for television. Sad. Now she's too good for nothing. Yeah, that's right. Because she's not doing anything. Yeah. So say something's too good for nothing. Yeah, that's right. Because she's not doing anything. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:26 So say something nice to Benjamin McKenzie. Yeah. Be nice to him. We'll kill him with kindness and then we'll kill him in real life if he doesn't respond. That's right. So yeah. Try to be nice and then... I think we...
Starting point is 00:32:36 I was going to say we should cut this, but do you reckon we should keep it going? Yeah. So if you've tweeted him, can you tweet him again? Can we? Or tell a friend. Tell a friend. Tell a friend, hey, sign up for Twitter and do this weird thing. Yeah. That's what it's for. That's right. Yeah. So if you've tweeted him, can you tweet him again? Can we? Or tell a friend. Tell a friend. Tell a friend, hey, sign up for Twitter and do this weird thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:47 That's what it's for. That's right. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Because he would have noticed. There's no way he would not have noticed that. Even though he's got 100,000 followers. He would have noticed those at mentions just lighten up.
Starting point is 00:32:57 Yeah. That's it. So same thing. Ask him if he's going to have a moustache. Say something nice about him. Yeah. Hey, you'd look really great with a moustache. P.S. Will you have a moustache. Say something nice about him. Yeah. Hey, you'd look really great with a moustache. P.S.
Starting point is 00:33:05 Will you have a moustache for Gotham? Stuff like that. Yeah. Hey, you've been working out. Nice biceps, Mackenzie. You look after yourself. Shame you look like an idiot, like a weird muscle-bound idiot without a moustache. Maybe you should do that for Gotham.
Starting point is 00:33:19 We'll get an answer out of this guy. Absolutely. And please, at MrSundayMoviesBeInIt. Or Mason at WikipediaBrown. Correct. Or the Weekly Planet on TwitterundayMovies, be in it. Or Mason at Wikipedia Brown. Correct. Or the Weekly Planet on Twitter. Not all of them, then. That's too many characters.
Starting point is 00:33:29 No, just do one. Pick one. Pick just the one, yeah. Yeah. So let's get this guy, Mason. Yeah, let's get him good. With kindness. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:35 Because he's probably a nice guy. So we want to entice him. Yeah. The carrot's more than the stick, Mason. Yeah. The carrot doesn't work. If you... We're going to hit him with the stick, though.
Starting point is 00:33:43 What we should do is we should look up his like manager his agent's PO box yep and like send him like moustache related things like moustache combs
Starting point is 00:33:53 like moustache combs exactly hey you might be needing this send him a moustache comb good times yeah great good times on the internet so really thank you
Starting point is 00:34:03 and you know what it shows how much people support the show. Yeah, that's a big one. Because sometimes we don't know if people are listening, Mason. Do we? I'm certainly listening. You are. To a degree.
Starting point is 00:34:13 You're half here. I'm half here. I'm half buying things on the internet. That's right. I'm half buying things on the internet. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:35:24 Extras, taxes taxes and delivery additional. Expires June 23rd, you turkey. Look, Mason. The biggest news from this week, though. Aside from everybody loving the Fantastic Four. Is that Guardians of the Galaxy, the trailer, exploded onto the internet. Hooked on a feeling!
Starting point is 00:35:44 That was out. Did you know that sales on that yeah on spike like 700 on itunes yeah big time yeah you know what i'm glad they've claimed that song back from ali mcbeal because i think that was an ali mcbeal thing was ali mcbeal but before that was reservoir dogs oh yeah that's right there you go yeah so something cool has got it back again there you go yeah that dancing baby really pissed me off, Mason. Do you want to air a grudge against a baby right now? It's your platform, yeah. You're right, it is.
Starting point is 00:36:12 But I'm a bit of a fray. Okay, good. I'm a bit of a fray. Did it hook you on a feeling, Mason? I've written that here. Oh, I get it. That's good. It's very clever.
Starting point is 00:36:20 Did it? Yeah, I enjoyed it. It looked good. Although, and again, this is, maybe I'm glad for this, we don't really know what the plot is. No, but I think I know why. Okay. This is very much an origin. Because they haven't made it yet.
Starting point is 00:36:32 They haven't made it. But this is very much an origins trailer. Uh-huh. Where it's like, these are the characters and what they're about. Uh-huh. Because most people don't know who these guys are. Correct. You know what I find really amusing though?
Starting point is 00:36:42 What's that? Marvel release a thing where they're like, hey, there's a cartoon raccoon that it's kind of weird, right? And people are like, yes! And Fox are like, we've got Wolverine! And everyone's like,
Starting point is 00:36:52 shut up! Have you noticed that? Yeah, well, we've seen enough. We know what Wolverine can do at this point. Yeah, that's right. Like maybe Rocket Raccoon
Starting point is 00:36:58 has like stink sacks, you know? In real stink upper place. I think you're thinking of Skunks. Yeah, still. He's a space racpper place. I think you're thinking of Skucks. Yeah, still. He's a space raccoon, though. That's true.
Starting point is 00:37:08 A spaccoon. Well, we are going to get into this, but is he has the physiology of an Earth raccoon? Yes. Even though he's a space raccoon, that's right? Yeah. Anyway, we'll get into that later. I thought it had a very Indiana Jones vibe, Mason. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:37:21 Initially to start with. You know, he grabs a thing and it's a trap and whatever. You don't think so? Because he's a kind of hand solo Indiana Jones kind of rogue. I think that's wishful thinking on your part. Is it? I think he's more Andy from Parks and Rec stealing something out of the fridge that doesn't belong to him.
Starting point is 00:37:38 I'm happy with that. Yeah, that's still a good deal. Yeah, yeah. Also, it's obviously going for a lighter tone. Yes. And even though Iron Man 3 for a lighter tone. Yes. And even though Iron Man 3 was a lighter movie and a lot of these movies are, this one, I saw some people complain and go,
Starting point is 00:37:50 oh, another fucking comedy or whatever from Marvel. But Guardians of the Galaxy is supposed to be a wacky, funny kind of left-of-centre adventure. Well, some of it's a bit. Some of it, yeah, yeah, exactly. But so I think that tone fits this more. Am I right or am I wrong? I am right, you're right.
Starting point is 00:38:07 He's nodding. You know what? Again, you know I love a romp. And if this is going to be a romp, I'm on board 100%. That's why you love Star Trek Into Darkness for some reason. First 20 minutes or whatever it is, first 15 minutes, what a romp. That's it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:19 Peter Serafinowicz is in it as well. Yeah. It's Serafinowicz, apparently. Oh, okay, cool. No, I learned that as well, yeah. Oh, cool. Yeah. He's the voice of Darth Maul. It's Sarah Finowitz apparently. Oh, okay, cool. No, I learned that as well, yeah. Oh, cool. He's the voice of Darth Maul. He's a very famous British actor.
Starting point is 00:38:28 He's in all the Simon Pegg, Nick Frost bits and pieces. He does that amazing... Does he do like 50 impressions in one minute? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's great. It ends up being like 14 impressions that he does. And they're all terrible, yeah. And they're all terrible.
Starting point is 00:38:41 It's great. Look up Peter Sarah Finowitz. Sarah Finowitz? Sarah Finowitz. But not spelt witch. No's great. Look up Peter Serafinowicz. Serafinowich? Serafinowich. But not spelt witch. No. Spell it however it's spelt. Yep.
Starting point is 00:38:49 We can't help you. Learn that. Yeah. You know what? Google will fill it in for you. It's fine. They sure will. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:54 All those good people at Google. I think there's a team dedicated to that man. Just directing all that traffic. Yeah. Yeah, so any other thoughts on the trailer? Looks really good. Zoe Saldana's a... She's green now. She's not really good. Zoe Saldana, she's green now. She's not blue.
Starting point is 00:39:08 She's been blue. Now she's green. You can't be black in space. It doesn't work. Apparently not. Yeah, yeah. Except for Korath. He's going to be.
Starting point is 00:39:14 Oh, yeah. Good point. Yeah, he can be black in space. Big departure from what his look is like in the comics, as we noticed this before this. We looked up him. He looks like a pink juggernaut in the comics, really. That's right. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:39:25 Yeah. Well, look. We all think it's going to be a success, don't we, Mason? We don't know that. We all think it. We don't. Stop saying it. Stop putting words in my mouth. I'm happy, though, we're getting something new. As much as I like all the Marvel, not all the Marvel movies, some better than others, this is something we have not seen before from Marvel.
Starting point is 00:39:41 The closest thing we've had from a Marvel movie that's close is Howard the Duck, which is the first Marvel movie. So this is kind of, I don't know, we haven't had a good kind of Star Wars-ish kind of movie really. That's very true. Since probably Star Wars. Oh, Serenity's great.
Starting point is 00:39:56 There you go, there's one. So I don't know, I think I'd love to see this kind of world building kind of thing and then for the new Star Wars to tank. It's the spirits. Nah, we're about to succeed as well. But they're the same company now. They are, yeah. They're both Disney.
Starting point is 00:40:07 Oh, what if they cross them over? Well, Patton Oswalt did this amazing rant. I don't know if you've seen it. He's in an episode of Parks and Rec where he's filibustering. Right. Is that the word where they just keep talking? Yes, it is. It is, yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:20 And basically they needed him to fill in some time. So he basically does this amazing Star Wars slash Marvel crossover. Uh-huh. He speaks for like five minutes and it involves Thanos and the Infinity Gems and all those kind of things. Infinity Gauntlet, sorry. And all those kind of things and how it all comes together in one massive universe. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:36 And it's great. Ooh. We'll never see it happen, but would you love it? I would love it actually, yeah. We thought for this week. Yes. We would go through the Guardians of the Galaxy. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:40:44 I made a video on my YouTube channel. It's like eight minutes. If you want to know a brief summary of the Guardians of the Galaxy, go and check it out. Mr. Sunday to Sunday or Mr. Movies. My YouTube channel. You've been there, haven't you, Mason? On occasion, sure. I'm legally required to.
Starting point is 00:40:59 But we thought we'd maybe go into depth in the Guardians of the Galaxy. Okay, yeah. Your assignment this week, Mason, was looking up... My homework. Your homework was looking up old Guardians of the Galaxy. Well, I had planned to reread the entire Guardians of the Galaxy oeuvre from like 1969 until whenever. But my laptop stopped working and I haven't bought another one yet.
Starting point is 00:41:23 Would you say that was a blessing in disguise? Yes, definitely. Not even a blessing in disguise. Just a regular blessing. Flat out blessing. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. God, I was not looking...
Starting point is 00:41:32 I never look forward to going back and just wading through exposition. Yeah. I'll use my optic blast on this thing. You know? And then they say their name? Yeah, then they say their name. Yeah. That's it. Well, look, there was an their name, yeah. Yeah, that's it.
Starting point is 00:41:45 Well, look, there was an original Guardians 10. That wasn't there from 1969. It's gone in and out of favour over the years. It's definitely not one of the most popular comics, but it has stuck around. Yeah, yeah. It was sort of relaunched in the 90s. Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:41:56 Which was a weird choice for the 90s, because in the 90s everything was really extreme. It was, wasn't it? The 90s was that era where everybody either became more extreme or they discovered they had a more extreme counterpart. So, like, Ghost Rider had Vengeance and, like, Batman. Ghost Rider, the flaming skull, had a more extreme version.
Starting point is 00:42:14 There was a more extreme version of him, yeah. What did he ride? Even bigger steamroller. No, it was basically the same, except you had, like, more horns on the skull. Okay. In the Ghost Rider, the second basically the same, except you had more horns on the skull. Okay. In the Ghost Rider, the second Ghost Rider film, I assumed that Idris Elba's character was going to turn into vengeance, but he didn't.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Oh, right, yeah, yeah. Which is very disappointing. Yeah. The rest of the movie was great, though. Was it? No. I haven't seen it. But yeah, so Batman had the Azrael Batman.
Starting point is 00:42:41 Azrael, yeah. Superman became the four different Superman. Superboy. Very extreme. Vanilla Rice haircut. So super great fade. Thor had Thunderstrike. Yep. I can do it with anything. Name one. Wonder Woman. Artemis.
Starting point is 00:42:57 Batman. I just did that one. Like literally seconds ago I did that one. Superboy. No, that was... No, you've ruined this. Hang on. Green Lantern. Yeah, he had Parallax. Hang on. Hulk. Yeah he had Parallax He went super extreme Hang on Hulk Uh Oh hang on
Starting point is 00:43:10 I fucking gotcha You did get I bet there's one though I'm sure there is There's the Future Imperfect Hulk Who was like The future version of Hulk
Starting point is 00:43:19 Okay Who went insane And like killed everybody Insane with love? Yeah insane with love For killing people That might have been Early 2000s
Starting point is 00:43:24 I'm claiming it anyway How do you like that? I'm against it Yeah But I'll let it pass and like killed everybody. Insane with love? Yeah, insane with love. For killing people. That might have been early 2000s. I'm claiming it anyway. How do you like that? I'm against it. Yeah. But I'll let it pass. Yeah. Also, he went savage again in the 90s.
Starting point is 00:43:32 Okay, yeah, yeah. Because he was the Grey Hulk for a while. He did, yeah. And then he went savage and then he became Nerd Hulk. Yeah. Yeah. The least popular Hulk. I enjoyed that one.
Starting point is 00:43:40 That was my era. I didn't rate it. Yeah, okay, good. There we go. Do you want to talk about the original team at all? Throughout the episode, just name a character. I'll throw it out there. And I'll do you want to talk about the original team throughout the episode just name name a character
Starting point is 00:43:45 I'll throw it out there and I'll give you more extreme counterpart sure I mean obviously that's true obviously I'll give
Starting point is 00:43:51 you warning before I do it no just say it Spider-Man no wait you just did that one just did that one fuck
Starting point is 00:43:57 all right original team Mason anything you want to say about them uh no they were they were yeah were a 90s team. I'm talking about the 60s team.
Starting point is 00:44:08 Yeah, but that's the same. That's the same team. Okay, sorry. There was a little bit of... They're all kind of... They're all sort of the last of their kind. They're all kind of like, you know, one guy genetically engineered to live on Jupiter.
Starting point is 00:44:20 Yeah, exactly. Charlie 27, I think it was his name. That was the woman I can't remember who was genetically engineered to live on Jupiter for some reason or whatever Charlie 27 I think it was his name yep that was the woman I can't remember who was genetically engineered to live on Mercury one was from Pluto
Starting point is 00:44:30 they're all pretty much because they're from the 60s I presume they just went what's planets that we know and nobody knows anything about because there was
Starting point is 00:44:38 obviously not the technology to see other planets I'd imagine as much as there is now I assume that that has developed I have no idea but so they just go what's a planet we don't know what's on Pluto let's just say they're from Pluto other planets, I'd imagine, as much as there is now. I assume that that has developed. I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:44:46 But, so they just go, what's a planet? We don't know what's on Pluto. Let's just say they're from Pluto. Yep. You know? Uh-huh. So, hey. And he's a crystal man from Pluto?
Starting point is 00:44:55 Yeah, he's a crystal man from Pluto, yeah. That's on the video. I've immediately forgotten it. No, exactly. It's not why, yeah. I've immediately forgotten it. But, yeah. So, is that stuff worth a read, though? I mean, is there any particular...
Starting point is 00:45:03 Like, plot lines or storylines? Sure, I guess. Not really, because there's not really any... There's barely any crossover between the original Guardians from the 31st century and the modern-day Guardians. There is some crossover. Well, there's Vance Astro, who comes back in time, and the new guys meet him and decide to call themselves the Guardians of the Galaxy based on him.
Starting point is 00:45:24 But that's it. That's all you need to know, basically. That's true, exactly, yeah. Vance Astro, he was a mutant, is that correct? Yes. And because he's super old, he has that suit to keep him from dying. Yes, dispersing as an energy being, I think, yeah. Yeah, yeah, and he carries Captain America's shield.
Starting point is 00:45:39 Not all the time, but he has. Sometimes he does. You know what, there was an old... Sometimes he eats cereal out of it. Now I remember, there was an old Guardians of the Galaxy storyline where they have to fight Doctor Doom, who somehow lived till the 30th century, and he's wearing Wolverine's skeleton as a suit of armour. Oh, that's pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:45:55 So find that issue. That's the 90s in a nutshell. Wolverine! Um, oh, hang on. Probably Weapon X. Oh, yeah, yeah, fair point. Yeah, yeah. You got me. Yeah., yeah, yeah, fair point. Yeah, yeah. You got me.
Starting point is 00:46:05 Yeah. You son of a bitch. Yeah. Also, there's going to be some crossover into the new one as well. I'm assuming Van Sastro will not be in this movie, I'd imagine. It would be weird, yeah. But Yondu, who's part of the original team, he is in the new movie. Michael Rooker's playing him.
Starting point is 00:46:23 Oh, yeah. And he's an associate of Peter Quill. Okay. So I think some of it, they're changing. When you started, when you said last week, hey, let's do a little bit of research on Guardians of the Galaxy, and you were like, you know what, I'll do it. You said I'll do it on the day, right?
Starting point is 00:46:37 I'll do it the night before. It's going to be real easy. Have you found it real easy? It's been an absolute fucking waking nightmare because it's like because i love i love comic book cosmology i love the the whole you know the space universe part of the marvel universe yeah but it is really like if somebody said to you if you didn't know anything about comic books and somebody said to you hey learn every character in the marvel universe by tomorrow it's like that like that. Yeah, that's exactly right.
Starting point is 00:47:06 Yeah, exactly, yeah. That's exactly it. And the thing is as well, I've been reading some Guardians of the Galaxy from a few months back. I wasn't a fan of them before. I know people get upset if people are like, people are jumping on the bandwagon,
Starting point is 00:47:16 because whatever, you know. I was not a fan. Yeah. Also, what's wrong with jumping on the bandwagon? It's fine, yeah, exactly. Learn about a new thing. Yeah. We weren't all there at the origin of issue one of whatever.
Starting point is 00:47:26 Well, we bloody should have been. We should have been. You're right. We are idiots. So I'll be reading it for a while, probably maybe, since they probably announced it.
Starting point is 00:47:33 So I've been kind of coming back and forth to it. But even then, like every now and then they'll be like, this is a guy, and I'm like, and then I have to,
Starting point is 00:47:40 I'm like, who the fuck is this? So I have to go look it up. And then I'm like, okay, so he was in a team in the 70s and then he died and he came back. I'm like, right, okay, this? So I have to go look it up. And then I'm like, okay, so he was in a team in the 70s, and then he died and he came back. I'm like, right, okay, yep.
Starting point is 00:47:49 Makes sense, sure. Now I can continue reading this. It's like doing research, reading a lot of this. Yeah, it is, yeah. There's so much stuff. It is not a comic. I've got some recommended readings of this, but it is not a comic to jump into if you know nothing about comics.
Starting point is 00:48:02 That's very true. I know. Look, I've always said well when i got the comic book movie side job thing jim little the boss he's like what do you know about what are your skills and i go look i know movies i don't know comic book movies i'm like comics knowledge is okay but there's a lot of gaps right right but i found this but it's better than average whatever not as Not as good as yours, because you know some weird shit. But I found it a real struggle to condense this.
Starting point is 00:48:31 Destroyer Duck is the more extreme version of Power of the Duck. If you were going to spring that on me at any point, it's Destroyer Duck. You're ready. You're ready for me. So yeah, it's probably not the best team to start with. All this cosmic stuff is confusing. But also, it is a good read. The newer stuff. I've written down the book tour.
Starting point is 00:48:45 I was going to mention this at the end. There's Volume 1 Legacy which started in 2008 which is the Guardians of the Galaxy volume. You can kind of, it's kind of new,
Starting point is 00:48:54 kind of reader friendly. And there's a lot of stuff in it like there's a character who joins at one point and he's like, I hate all the cosmic stuff. Right. It's confusing
Starting point is 00:49:01 and it's bullshit or whatever. So there is ways into it you know what I mean but yeah there you go where did I even get onto this I was mocking you
Starting point is 00:49:11 but you can go back wherever you were again just start again it's fine Starhawk was also an original member he makes an appearance
Starting point is 00:49:18 in the new team as well he's banging around through time and space so he turns up as well and he's his alliances kind of waver and you and he's all about the timeline or whatever. No.
Starting point is 00:49:30 Or not. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It's fine. Yeah. What are your experiences with the Guardians of the Galaxy? As a kid, it was one of those groups that I was always going to get into, but I never quite got around to.
Starting point is 00:49:40 Sure. It looked like too much work. Yeah. Because you had that breakdance crew. Yeah, exactly. You were very busy. I was so busy. Yeah yeah modern day guardians of the galaxy you know what it's weird because they were sort of formed in the annihilation storylines which started like 2006 which was the exact same time as civil war okay and so you know if you didn't if you couldn't buy all the
Starting point is 00:50:01 marvel books ever you sort of had to pick one. Yeah. Otherwise it would make no sense. And I think most people went with Civil War. They did, yeah. Because it's characters they recognize. That's right, yeah. But yeah, this whole other intergalactic space war poised to destroy the entire universe was happening. Yep.
Starting point is 00:50:15 Outside the solar system. Yeah. And nobody noticed. Yeah. Which is weird, right? That is weird. Yeah, yeah. Maybe we can go through the characters, Mason.
Starting point is 00:50:22 Yeah. I was actually going to as far as like space if you wanna get as kind of a grounding in the Marvel space stuff without going insane yeah there was a storyline
Starting point is 00:50:32 from the 90s called Operation Galactic Storm yeah where there was the there was a war between the Kree and the Shi'ar which were kind of like
Starting point is 00:50:38 the you know two major Marvel alien races and the Avengers have to go up into space and stop it yep and that's actually really good. When's that from, sorry?
Starting point is 00:50:46 Like the 90s. Cool. Mid-90s. The best time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. How extreme was it? It wasn't that extreme.
Starting point is 00:50:53 Fantastic Four! Fantastic Force. You idiots. God. It had Sue Storm and Reed Richards' son grown up because he was from the future and he came to the past. Of course he was. What was his powers? He's got telekinesis and all sorts of stuff. Was he a smug dickhead?
Starting point is 00:51:10 Did he take that from Reed Richards? Yeah, he was smug-ish. Yeah. Sure. Great. So yeah, why don't we talk about the modern Team Mason and tie it into the trailer. Okay, I'm ready. This I kind of can follow, because I've been reading this. So I can do this. But yeah, basically it starts with Peter Quill.
Starting point is 00:51:27 Now he's a mixture of human and spa toy, I believe. Yes. Yep. Which gives him many qualities, but mostly he's just a regular guy. It's pretty much that, really. Yeah. Yeah. That's it.
Starting point is 00:51:38 Now in some versions he's an astronaut where he's taken the Peter Quill mantle. I think in the movie version he's been kidnapped. Yes, exactly, yeah. Which is very Corsair. You know, Cyclops' dad? Oh, yeah, yeah. The space pirate. Because he was abducted from Earth
Starting point is 00:51:55 and he became a space pirate. But I guess since Fox isn't going to use that element because it's dumb, that's freely available for Marvel to use it. So that's how they're how they're going there yeah that's it now yeah as i said he's just a guy but he's a weapons expert he's got that suit which means he can travel through space and whatever you know what do you think of chris pratt as the the casting you know what initially i wasn't i wasn't sold on as
Starting point is 00:52:17 much as i like chris pratt and i do and you saw the abs no so the abs and i was like yes no because i heard that joel Edgerton was going for it. And I was rooting for Joel Edgerton because I really like Joel Edgerton. Not just because he's Australian. You know I'm a patriot, Mason. I know you are. I'm such a patriot. What was I saying? Chris Pratt.
Starting point is 00:52:36 Yeah, because he's great in Warrior. Joel Edgerton as well. And I was like, I would have rather Joel Edgerton. But I've definitely warmed to it. And the trailer's been nothing but confirmed this for me. What about you? Is he too wacky? I mean there's elements of wackiness
Starting point is 00:52:49 to the character in the comic books. The look is largely irrelevant because you very rarely see you don't often see his face in the In the new one you do. Yeah okay but he's very generic. Yeah exactly.
Starting point is 00:53:00 So I think you could really put anyone in there because most of the time he's under the mask. He might strike me as a little wacky but I think he could really put anyone in there because most of the time he's under the mask so he might strike me as a little wacky but I think he might grow into it
Starting point is 00:53:09 as the film progresses yeah some people I know felt the humour was a bit forced in the trailer which may have been the case but it would seem forced though
Starting point is 00:53:17 I mean maybe it is forced in the final product but when you take snippets of humour from a movie it's often you need the context and whatever else for it to not feel forced
Starting point is 00:53:24 but hey maybe it is forced and clearly he has some sort of attachment to that Walkman of humour from a movie. It's often, you need the context and whatever else for it to not feel forced. Uh-huh, yeah. But hey, maybe it is forced. And clearly he has some sort of attachment to that Walkman. Well, I think that... Because that's what
Starting point is 00:53:31 came with him when he was kidnapped. Yeah, exactly. And that's his only link to Earth or whatever. But I love that bit in the trailer. You think he could go
Starting point is 00:53:37 back to Earth then, don't you? You would think that. I mean, they know where it is. He's a spaceman. He's got a spaceship. He has a ship.
Starting point is 00:53:44 Yeah. You think you could just go right back to earth i don't know maybe it's what you end up knowing i guess yeah yeah yeah but hey why would you go back to earth though if you could fly maybe the greatest space journey is in your heart maybe or maybe it's literally in space yeah you're right actually yeah that's much bigger i love that scene though in the uh in the in the trailer where he hears the music playing and then it kind of amps up and then shocks him and you think it's going to kick straight into the song and then it just does those drum beats right
Starting point is 00:54:08 right it's great yeah yeah fuck ellen mcfeel yeah uh yeah look i can give you a little bit of information on the actual character i'm ready because as i said as we said it was an origins kind of trailer uh and from that we got a little bit of information text, which tells you about that particular person. Yep. So, this is for Peter Quill, because you know, they've all been arrested in the thing or whatever. Okay, so, alias Star Wars, species...
Starting point is 00:54:32 Did you enjoy the obscene gesture? Yeah, sure. Yeah, that was fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Species Terran, it says. Terran, from Earth. All right. Oh, yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:54:40 You're an idiot. Am I? Yes! Or am I the biggest idiot? Oh, no, that's it. You're right. Orig Am I? Yes. Or am I the biggest idiot? Oh no, that's it. You're right. Origins Terror. Don't know what that means.
Starting point is 00:54:49 It says enhancements. He's got a translator in his neck. So that would come in handy. Well yeah, because originally that character... He's one of those characters they keep... They don't retcon him really, but they keep... He gets different implants and skills. Yeah, he's been a cyborg for a while.
Starting point is 00:55:03 He had like a bionic eye and stuff like that. And they've since removed it. I think they're probably going to skip most of that. Yeah. Just plug that translator in. Exactly, because that's really all you need. And that explains why everybody speaks English and blah, blah, blah. It's just easier.
Starting point is 00:55:14 Why in Man of Steel could everybody speak English? Is there a scene where they learn English? Yeah, there is actually. Great. There's a 40 minute scene. Oh, yeah. I remember watching that. A bit long.
Starting point is 00:55:27 But I learned English better. You did. You sure did. Yeah. Because you're a bloody foreigner, Mason. Because I'm so Australian. I don't know if you know this. I'm a patriot.
Starting point is 00:55:38 I know you're a patriot. Steady on, mate. Jesus. Criminal record though. Or it says Associates Yonda Udonta, which is Yondu from the original guy. Jesus. Criminal record, though. It says, Associates Yonda Udonta, which is Yondu from, you know, the original guy or whatever. Criminal record.
Starting point is 00:55:49 One count of fraud. Two counts of assault slash drunkenness. One count sex crime. Wait a second. Yeah, it says, illegal manipulation of Gramosean Duchess. So he's probably fondled someone. I didn't say so, yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:03 He seems a bit listed from Red Dwarf. Yeah, sure. That's a great show, isn't it? Have we talked about Red Dwarf enough on this show? At length. Endlessly. Yeah. So there you go.
Starting point is 00:56:12 Yeah, I think he's a good casting choice, and I think that's going to be good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Should we go to the next person? Yes. Or do you want to talk about Lister from Red Dwarf? He was here recently. He DJ'd.
Starting point is 00:56:23 Who was he? Craig Charles. I missed it. I forgot it was on. Would have been great, though. Sure. Next up, Gamora, or Gamera, whatever you want to call it. I'm going to say Gamora.
Starting point is 00:56:32 I'm going to say... Gamera's more the monster from Godzilla. Very good point. She's the last of her kind, which most of these guys are, by the way. Yeah, yeah. A lot of these guys are. I guess that is the only link between them and the original Guardians of the Galaxy, that they're all the last of their kind.
Starting point is 00:56:47 Yeah, or the only one of their kind. She was raised by Thanos. I think he killed her family, or planet, or something like that, and then took her on board. So she's an assassin, and good at stealth, and a gymnast,
Starting point is 00:56:58 and she does all the stuff. She can flip kick. She can maybe do that thing where she goes up on someone's shoulders with her legs, and then does a spin. And snaps their neck? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:05 I bet there's one of those. Does a spin. I think you're probably right. Yeah. I think there's definitely one of those in there. Yeah. She's also got, this is in the comic recently, she's got a healing factor where she gets torched by, I think, solar radiation and she's just burnt to a crisp, no hair, skin's all
Starting point is 00:57:18 fucked up or whatever. I've been swearing too much on this show. I've got to cut that back. No more. Okay. Every second word. See if you can do it. Done.
Starting point is 00:57:26 Sorry. I've been swearing too much on this show. I've got to cut that back. No more. Every second word. See if you can do it. Done. So she's got a healing factor, but it's not really to that of Wolverine. And I said this in the video, or it is because Wolverine's healing factor changes. It took her a few issues to kind of come back from that. Right. There's an issue right at the start of Civil War. Yeah. Because we're talking about Civil War. We were.
Starting point is 00:57:41 There's an issue where... It was an issue, wasn't there? Shut up. Because there was conflict. Shut up. I'm going to hate you again. I'm going to be a hater on you any second now. But there's one issue where there's a villain called Nitro,
Starting point is 00:57:53 and his power is he can explode and then reform himself. Okay. And he gets all up in Wolverine's face, and he explodes, and Wolverine is reduced to an adamantium skeleton. Like, that's it. Like, no eye sockets, no organs. Just the skeleton, from what you can tell. And then the next panel, he's fine again.
Starting point is 00:58:09 Ha! Like, you see, he blows up and he's just the skeleton. Then you see Nitro like, ha ha, I've done it, I've defeated him. And then, like, he turns around and Wolverine's fine again. He's even grown all his hair back. I was going to say, and brain cells? Yeah, I guess so. And memories?
Starting point is 00:58:23 There must have been something left. I don't know. But it's ridiculous, right? I guess his brain is inside his skull, though. Oh, yeah. So assuming that wasn't turned to a crisp, sure.
Starting point is 00:58:31 But there's also in, what's the one, the Age of Ultron, where he goes into the alternative future and he gets his leg, kind of, the flesh around his leg
Starting point is 00:58:40 disintegrates. And he goes to stand up and he's like, and then he passes out and then it cuts to a few days later when his leg is healed. So there's also that and they're not that far apart right exactly they change that all the time all the time and he was missing an eye for a while yeah an eye patch in the age of apocalypse thing he's missing an like cyclops shot his arm that's
Starting point is 00:58:56 right his hand never grew back so then who knows it's almost as if it's comic book logic and none of it makes any sense it's almost like that that, you're right. No, it's like that, yeah. Almost, yeah. Basically, she's 24, it says. Oh, this is for the movie information. Uh-huh. Her weight is 2,000... Wait a second, is that Earth years or space years? It says Zambahari years, which is her race.
Starting point is 00:59:17 Z-E-H-O-B-E-R-I. You know it's one of those things where you read it in the comics, but you have no idea what it actually sounds like out loud. Exactly, yeah. And I can't read read I think that's a fairly common nerd yeah it is trait is that you've
Starting point is 00:59:29 read a word many many times but you have no idea how it's said because you've never used it in real life you've never heard it used anywhere
Starting point is 00:59:35 because you don't want to bring it up with anybody because they'll beat you up they'll beat you up exactly yeah but I think it's
Starting point is 00:59:41 weight is 2008 grits which I assume is a reference to the new comic, which came out in 2008. She better trim down a little. I wonder what her diet regime is for this film. Let's ask her.
Starting point is 00:59:53 Let's ask her in all the interviews, just like Scarlett Johansson. Enhancements. Now, she does have cybernetic appendages, ocular and respiratory implants, enhanced neurological system. Another thing that Peter Quill had at one point, he had a memory chip where he could remember everything. genetic appendages, ocular and respiratory implants, enhanced neurological system. Another thing that Peter Quill had at one point, he had a memory chip where he could remember everything. Oh, yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:00:10 That was another thing that he had. I remember that, but I had my memory chip taken out. Ah, very good. You son of a gun. Yep. So, yeah. Obviously, she's an assassin. Everybody in space is kind of enhanced.
Starting point is 01:00:22 Well, that's the thing. Exactly. And that's what I said in the video. Everybody's a little bit stronger, a's an assassin. Everybody in space is kind of enhanced. Well, that's the thing. Exactly. And that's what I said in the video. Everybody's a little bit stronger, a little bit faster. They're good with guns and knives. They can fly in space. Pretty much everybody can do that. Doesn't seem to be any laws either about having lots of guns and knives.
Starting point is 01:00:37 You can just wave them around. That's right, yeah. It's like the Wild West out in there in space. That's it. They should do some sort of sci-fi space western. Never happen. Yeah, don't do it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:47 It says, description, she's the last survivor of her people and her criminal record is 12 counts of murder. Ooh. So yeah,
Starting point is 01:00:54 that sounds pretty true to the books, I guess. Who do you think she killed in a group of 12? Do you think it was Jesus' disciples? I was going to say,
Starting point is 01:01:01 I was going to say that. Do you think it was the seven dwarves and then five more people? Like, hey, stop! Yeah. And then murdered them. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Probably, yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:11 Do you think it was the seven dwarves, the Fantastic Four from the 90s, and then a yet-to-be-named person? That we don't know. Yeah. Yeah, sure. I'd believe that. Destroy a duck. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:25 So, yeah. I think that's pretty close to the comics. It seems that way anyway, doesn't know. Yeah. Yeah, sure. I'd believe that. Destroy a duck. Yeah. So, yeah, I think that's pretty close to the comics. It seems that way anyway, doesn't it? Yeah. I think at the start of this she maybe does work for Thanos
Starting point is 01:01:32 and then she's kind of pulled away for whatever reason. There is an Infinity Gem involved in this whole movie. Oh. There's your plot. There's my plot. There's your plot right there.
Starting point is 01:01:40 Yeah. So, yeah. There you go. Let's move it along there, Mason. Let's go to Drax. Now, there was also 30-second videos of these. You know what? You know what I've been holding on my lap just here on this iPad?
Starting point is 01:01:50 Your iPad. I can see it. Yeah, but have you seen what Drax the Destroyer used to look like? 90s style? I have not. Cape. WWF belt. He looks like a giant version of the Green Goblin.
Starting point is 01:02:06 Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Purple and green. Yep. Sweet little boots, probably. Nice little skull amulet. He's got a big cape with a big cowl around his neck. Oh.
Starting point is 01:02:17 It's pretty great. Big disco collar. Nice. It's great, right? In the 90s? Yeah. Well, you know, he's been around a long time. We all have.
Starting point is 01:02:24 Yeah. Yeah. But anyway, I just wanted to show you that. Sure, yeah, yeah. It's great. Just don't want to cut anything about that character. He's ridiculous. That's right.
Starting point is 01:02:30 Well, there's 30 second videos online where the characters, the actors who play them and director James Gunn talk about their characters. Uh-huh. And the Drax one, the guy who plays Drax, Dave Batista, I think his name is? Yeah, he's a wrestler. He's a wrestler. He's like, I practically am Drax. Like, you're not really that.
Starting point is 01:02:47 I mean, it's good that you're enthusiastic. Drax was a saxophone playing man. Yep. Do you think that's where the name came from? Definitely. Do you think they wanted to call him Draxophone? Yes. The Destroyer?
Starting point is 01:03:00 I'm sure Drax is from an era where, probably like the 80s or 70s, where having a saxophone player or being a saxophone player in a movie is super cool. Yeah. In the 80s, this is big in the Lethal Weapon movies. Whenever there's a transition, there's a saxophone solo. There's a...
Starting point is 01:03:14 Yeah, yeah. There's famously the Greasy Sax Man in The Lost Boys. That's it. Which later was parodied by Jon Hamm once out of that life. If you want to see a real greasy sax man oh so good also night have you familiar with night
Starting point is 01:03:28 man at all we've talked about this have we maybe not on the podcast yeah yeah we have on the podcast yeah we have briefly god tell us no that's all we need
Starting point is 01:03:36 oh he was a he was a jazz saxophone player in his real life yeah yeah until he was struck by lightning and then gained evil detecting powers and then he didn't play
Starting point is 01:03:44 the sax anymore i think he did probably played it by moonlight yeah. Until he was struck by lightning and then gained evil detecting powers. And then he didn't play the sax anymore? I think he did. Probably played it by moonlight. You know he played it by moonlight. So basically, Drax was a human saxophone player whose family was killed by Thanos. What I'm saying is
Starting point is 01:03:55 there's precedent for sax playing superheroes. Yes, that's right. Yeah, that's right. His family was killed by Thanos. I think his daughter ended up being alive at some point. Or not.
Starting point is 01:04:04 Well, that's a bit of a cop out. Yeah. But he was basically given a new body by somebody I can't remember. Kronos. That's right. Who is Thanos' grandad. Yes. There you go.
Starting point is 01:04:13 Is he a good bloke? He's a good amorphous energy being. Because he kind of... That's a big generalisation of amorphous energy being, Mason. That's pretty racist. No, it's true. You know what? If it covers enough of them,
Starting point is 01:04:28 all I'm saying is it's probably true. Fair point. Sometimes... I'm a patriot! Sometimes the stereotype's true, alright? You're right. By the way, if you play saxophone, it's not uncool. Well.
Starting point is 01:04:38 Okay. You're right. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So he was given a new body for the sole purpose of killing Thanos. Interestingly, though...
Starting point is 01:04:44 By Kronos, his grandad interestingly though by Kronos his grandad by Kronos his grandad yep exactly they say that in the new one that he's a weapon of vengeance
Starting point is 01:04:52 against Ronan the Accuser oh okay who is the the principal villain of this Thanos is in it and we'll talk about that in a bit but he's the main one
Starting point is 01:04:59 because I think that way because I think Thanos is going to be the villain in Avengers 3 which I think was spoken about or may not be. And if you just have Drax kill him, as opposed to Iron Man flying him into the sun or whatever, they're going to end up Iron Man killing him.
Starting point is 01:05:11 Yeah. Because that'll happen. Then, yeah, I think that's probably the way to go. I think it'll be a one-two punch. I think it'll be a shield. A shield hit to the chest, and then Iron Man will fly him into the sun. So we can pretend that any of the other characters do anything. Yeah, that's it.
Starting point is 01:05:24 Or maybe Black Widow will get a good, solid punch in yeah that's right and then iron man will fly him into the sun that's it yeah now he can also i mean aside from being enhanced like everybody else yes he can also sense thanos and this this power has waved over the years or know if somebody has ran into him right so he made somebody's like you you're Thanos' mailman. I can tell. Where's he live? That'd be easy, wouldn't it? That would be so easy. So yeah, there you go.
Starting point is 01:05:50 Not going to believe this, Mason. That car again is shining right in my eyes. That's unfortunate for you, isn't it? I'm going to change it at the risk of wrecking the sound quality
Starting point is 01:05:58 like I did last time. Bloody car, man. I should learn. No. Don't worry about it. I'll edit. No. Don't worry, though. I'll edit this out. No, leave it in. That's better.
Starting point is 01:06:10 All right. In many ways, that was a success. Yep. Fuck that car, man. I want to go out and I'm going to scuff that bit of the car. Just scratch the shit out of it. Good. Because it's the same spot.
Starting point is 01:06:24 Uh-huh. Anyway. Do you want to hear me rap? Put some soap on it or something. What, doing that? I'll just scratch it. Good. Because it's the same spot. Uh-huh. Anyway. Do you want to hear me rap? Maybe put some soap on it or something. What, doing that? I'll just scratch it. Yeah, good idea. What, are you an idiot?
Starting point is 01:06:30 Sorry. Okay. I was a bit disappointed, though, that the guy from Game of Thrones, Jason Momoa... Oh, Drogo. ...wasn't Drax. This guy's great.
Starting point is 01:06:41 Don't get me wrong. Right, right, right. And I know he'll do a good job because, I don't know if you know this, he practically is Drac I've heard that yeah you know how he worked out
Starting point is 01:06:48 like a mad dog I bet he did yeah yeah okay so Aelius is known as the destroyer species unknown because he's obviously made
Starting point is 01:06:54 he's got enhanced musculature impact resistant skin augmented cellular regeneration so he can also do the thing that Wolverine does
Starting point is 01:07:03 or doesn't do right exactly everybody's got that who Exactly. 22 counts of murder, 5 counts of GBH. Grievous bodily ham. Nice. Good save. Was it? No. So yeah, we should move on from Drax Mason. Okay. This is where it gets weird. Okay. Or not weird. Is this going to be Rocket Raccoon? I was going to go with Groot first but whatever. Okay yeah Groot.
Starting point is 01:07:27 No Groot. So Groot I think in the movie is supposed to be like your kind of Chewbacca because apparently he's the innocent kind of good in a fight or whatever
Starting point is 01:07:34 but he's kind of like I'm just done. He's saying Rocket Raccoon is the Han Solo. That's exactly what I'm saying. Huh. Yes.
Starting point is 01:07:40 Well they are buddies. That would be great. Yeah it would. Yeah you're right. Because Star-Lord can't be Luke Skywalker and Han Solo. That's true. Maybe Rocket Raccoon is Luke Skywalker or Billy Dee Williams.
Starting point is 01:07:51 Oh. Because don't they say that all the trope is all bands of heroes, it's like the same five? It's like the hero, so that's Luke Skywalker. Yeah. It's like the Han Solo type character. The girl. Like the guy who's kind of like, is a bit on the edge.
Starting point is 01:08:10 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like your Raphael from Ninja Turtles. Exactly, that's right. And then you've got the girl. And then you've got the heavy, who has two bars, I guess is gross. And then Wild Card, which is Rocket Raccoon, I guess. Or Michelangelo. That also works for the Sex and the City characters. Does it really? It totally does. Okay, Carrie is Luke Skywalker.
Starting point is 01:08:28 We're not doing it. No, we are. No, we are. Okay. Carrie's Luke Skywalker. Miranda is... The straight-laced one, I guess. No.
Starting point is 01:08:36 No, that's Charlotte. Yep. Which one's the Wild Card? Is it Samantha? Samantha's the Wild Card. How did we get here again? It doesn't matter. We were talking about this last week. Guys, it's Sex and the royal card. How did we get here again? Doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:08:46 Were we talking about this last week? Guys, it's Sex and the City talk. We're transitioning over. If you don't like Sex and the City, unsubscribe. Entourage and Sex and the City are the same show. Yeah, I know. Just so you know. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:56 Anyway. Groot. His powers include. Arius Han Solo. Do you want to talk about it? The main guy is like one of those trash droids
Starting point is 01:09:07 that goes around and has no charisma anyway continue Groot Groot's the chew Groot's the chew mark Adrian Grenier is a trash droid
Starting point is 01:09:15 yeah he's a trash droid yeah he could increase his mass he's got strength and whatever Adrian Grenier yeah wow
Starting point is 01:09:21 yeah that big dumb fucking head of hair that he rocks no wonder he can be on the movie that's right he's very strong
Starting point is 01:09:28 or whatever he's the last of his kind I think he's royalty is that right yeah I think by default he might be royalty okay right gotcha he can also
Starting point is 01:09:34 he can be reduced to something like a tiny sapling or a twig and they can rebuild him from the twig yeah he can rebuild from the twig
Starting point is 01:09:39 yeah but is it the same character healing powers is it yeah I don't know it's a good question because you know
Starting point is 01:09:44 whenever they transfer some they're like we cloned him and now he's he's the same character? Healing powers. Is it? Yeah. I don't know. It's a good question. Because, you know, whenever they transfer some, they're like, we cloned him and now he's the same character. Yeah. He's not that, is he? No, he's a different guy. Yeah, that one's dead. Yeah. It's like if you cut an earthworm in half, it actually just dies.
Starting point is 01:09:54 Have we figured? Yes. Do we know if Agent Coulson is, how did he come back from the dead yet? Have we figured that out yet? I think. Irrelevant. Doesn't matter. I think it's been off the air for a few weeks. never mind remember though when it came back and they're like oh
Starting point is 01:10:06 there he is that's explained it's not explained did they just saw him poking in his brain yeah and then everyone went got it makes sense no doesn't make sense not at all bill paxton's on this week though check it out mason oh don't know wait paxton or paulman paxton huh from aliens yeah is he his character from alien yes he, he is. Sure. Doesn't matter. One of the things attributed to him is that all he says is, I am Groot. Right. Which is a result of as these species get older, I think it's something to do with their vocal cords harden and it's difficult for them to speak in Earth language or whatever. I can't remember.
Starting point is 01:10:37 One character once said that he's not actually just saying, I am Groot. He's saying a whole bunch of stuff. Right. But that's how you hear it. Okay. But it's not as, I don't think it's been properly confirmed, or it has, because cosmic is nonsense. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:49 Whether or not he's actually saying anything else. But in tone and what he says things implies. Right. It's like with Chewbacca, it's just a series of random noises, but apparently he's saying stuff, I guess. Yeah. Peter Mayhew's a good bloke, isn't he? I guess so, yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:01 I've never met him or interacted with him in any way. I know the Red Letter Media... He sure is tall. The Red Letter Media never met him or interacted with him in any way but he sure is tall the Red Letter Media guys hate him they hate him why? they do for what? for what reason? I don't know
Starting point is 01:11:11 something to do with Peter May who's the guy who plays Chewbacca if anyone else knows if you listen to this you probably know the way out of that
Starting point is 01:11:17 but I don't know because he signs he demands money for signatures and whatever it's a job I guess I don't give a shit. I'm never going to meet Peter, mate.
Starting point is 01:11:26 Exactly. I don't care. Yeah. So, yeah, voice of Vin Diesel, who's no stranger to voice work, Mason. We don't hear him speak at all in the trailer, right? No, but we will. But we do hear the next guy speak, which we'll talk about in a minute. Yeah, Vin Diesel's a good choice, I guess.
Starting point is 01:11:38 He was the Iron Giant. Yeah. And that's a great movie. Uh-huh. And he does a good job in it. Here we go. Reads his lines a quarter mile at a time. Species, that's a great movie. And he does a good job in it. Here we go. Reads his lines a quarter mile at a time. Species, that's right.
Starting point is 01:11:49 Species, Flora, Colossus. There was also a rumor that Vin Diesel was going to be Thanos, which I don't think is the case. No, no. Enhancements unknown. But I bet the guy who portrayed him at the end of Avengers is really crossing his fingers. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:01 And hoping like, this is my first acting gig, but boy, I really hope I get to be the villain in Avengersgers 3 that's it uh it says he's uh description human humanoid plant associates uh 89p13 that probably means something really obscure that i don't know criminal record there are three counts of grievous bodily ham also wow you didn't think i could save that joke mason but you did boy did i so yeah there you go uh last one from the team from this particular team anyway things change though mason over time yeah as we're aware we all get older we all look worse every day don't we no i look great that's true well thank you uh traditionally known as rocket raccoon uh-huh now he has the characteristics
Starting point is 01:12:41 of an earth raccoon yes so he's not technically Earth. But he was built to be a guardian of a particular race of something. It's very complicated, and I could explain it, but I don't really remember, and I don't care. Great. But basically, he is essentially a raccoon who is intelligent. So he's not particularly strong. Like, he's a little bit better than a regular raccoon, obviously, as far as what he can do. That's all I ask, really. That's all I ever want out of my movie heroes.
Starting point is 01:13:08 That's it. Be slightly better than a normal raccoon. That's why I like James Bond so much, because he's slightly better than a normal raccoon, you know? Just slightly. Indiana Jones, slightly better. Sly Cooper, the raccoon, slightly better than a regular raccoon.
Starting point is 01:13:19 That's very true. We've got this. We're getting a rhythm going. Sly Cooper movie's coming as well. Is it? They released a trailer, yeah. Animated? Computer CGI.
Starting point is 01:13:27 You've got to jump on this sweet rocket raccoon bandwagon. Oh, that's a really good point. Do you think this will be an increase in sort of weird pest-based movie characters? Yeah, probably, yeah. It's probably increasing people like silly raccoons and trying to... Oh, absolutely. There'll be a lot lot flushed down toilets that's right exactly
Starting point is 01:13:46 back in the back in the 50s and 60s yeah if you go but if you just look at like heaps and heaps of comic book covers yeah
Starting point is 01:13:52 there's a lot of gorillas yeah there is and if you look in those issues a lot of the time there's no gorilla in that issue yeah
Starting point is 01:13:58 and it's just because gorillas sold gorillas sold so they would just put gorillas on the which is weird there's a lot of issues of like a like a gorilla in a Superman costume.
Starting point is 01:14:08 Yes. For no reason. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So I hope Raccoon's the new gorilla. Me too. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:14 But basically, because he's a raccoon, he's got, like, better eyesight and smell and all those kind of things. Whatever a raccoon can do. We don't have raccoons, do we? He's got the proportional strength of a raccoon. Yeah, pretty much. He's a little bit stronger, but yeah. But he is a weapons expert and he can jump around.
Starting point is 01:14:27 Sharp little claws too. Sharp little claws, yeah. Like you'd see him in your yard or whatever. If you've got a nice leafy yard and he'd be there like, ooh, maybe you should pet me. And then he'd go and he'd scratch you. Scratch your hands. I'll get you. Yeah, it's like the koalas of here.
Starting point is 01:14:44 Koalas are pricks. Don't touch koalas No They'll scratch the shit out of you They've got chlamydia too Do they? Yep Chwal-midia?
Starting point is 01:14:50 Yes That's right The thing about koalas is people don't realise They're like they're so cute or whatever There's a reason they can climb up a tree As quickly as they can Because their claws are enormous and sharp Yes
Starting point is 01:15:00 Do not touch a koala Or do I don't care Yeah come visit and do that He loves guns though Mason This guy Yeah Weapons expert
Starting point is 01:15:07 Bit of a wisecracker Kind of guy Apparently he's got anger issues Voiced by Bradley Cooper I don't know if you saw The Bradley Cooper clip Mason I didn't But go ahead
Starting point is 01:15:15 But basically there's one line And I'm going to edit it Into the podcast right now Rocket has some real anger issues This one here's our booty I either did or didn't do that Huh Was it good? Rocket has some real anger issues. This one is our booty! I either did or didn't do that. Huh.
Starting point is 01:15:28 Was it good? Did I find it accurate to the character? You were pretty impressed. Cool. Yeah. So basically, alias Rocket, he's from the Half-World, that's right, Half-World, Keystone Quadrant enhancements. Now in this one, and he probably has had this in the comics at some point, he's got a cybernetic skeletal structure, enhanced phalanges and metacarpal bones, genetically augmented cerebral cortex, which I assume means he's smart.
Starting point is 01:15:52 Yes. Yeah. There's also... Steals picnic baskets. That's right. There's also his picture of his skeleton here. Do you see that? A little skeleton.
Starting point is 01:15:59 Yeah, he's got... It looks like he's got those kind of... You can see the augmented skeleton. Yeah. Well, he needs to be able to stand upright. That's right. All the time. That's right. Exactly. That's a good point.
Starting point is 01:16:06 I didn't even think of that. Associates Groot, a lower, it says a lower life form has a tendency to bite. That's a good, yeah. That's great. Criminal record, 13 counts of theft, 14 counts of escape from incarceration. Big part of this movie apparently set in a prison, which is interesting. Seven counts of mercenary activity, 15 counts of arson. Love it.
Starting point is 01:16:28 There you go. I think there's going to be... I think they've done well in this movie. Kids are going to love this movie. You get a lot of merchandise out of it. Yeah. This is a good way to go for them. Very smart.
Starting point is 01:16:37 Oh, Rocket Raccoon plushie. That's it. With a little machine gun. That's it. Or a full-size machine gun. Or a real machine gun. Those are the days when you get a real machine gun. That's it. Or a full-size machine gun. Or a real machine gun. Those are the days when you get a real machine gun. How about you just give them away when you buy a machine gun?
Starting point is 01:16:50 Good idea. Now, Mason, there are other people who are in the Guardians of the Galaxy who may make an appearance. Adam Warlock, as we know, his cocoon was at the end of Thor The Dark World, or it's assumed to be. Yeah, okay. I never would have picked that.
Starting point is 01:17:05 Yeah, well, I didn't notice it. Do you think anyone in the cinema picked that straight away? I'm sure they would have been. Yeah, yeah, yeah. See, that's... I don't recall that. I don't notice anything in these movies until afterwards. And then I take credit for it.
Starting point is 01:17:16 Fantastic. Like a jerk. Yeah. Iron Man's been a member. Yep. It was rumoured for a long time that Iron Man... I did not like that space armour Iron Man. No, me neither.
Starting point is 01:17:23 That weird nose thing he's got. Don't mess with the classics. I don't like the idea of... I thought they might put Iron Man in the movie to kind of have it cross over, to be like, see, it's relatable, Iron Man. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:34 Don't do that. Just let it be. I think he might be in the post-credits sequence. He probably might. I can almost guarantee. He'll be in that, the Starboost, the white space armour.
Starting point is 01:17:41 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think he'll be in that. I mean, he blew it up, but hey, build another one. It takes like two hours. Exactly. Yeah, other characters rumoured. Nova's rumoured'll be in that I mean he blew it up but hey build another one it takes like two hours that's right exactly yeah other characters are Nova's rumoured
Starting point is 01:17:48 to be in it okay yeah there's apparently even Nova well Nova runs I imagine the end of this will end with them living in nowhere
Starting point is 01:17:56 yeah the space station yeah the celestial head space station that's it yeah yeah another thing that's weird
Starting point is 01:18:02 about this the space station is run by a Russian dog. Cosmo, yes. Yes. Who was lost in the 60s. That's right. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:09 See, that's why I love Marvel cosmology, because that's, just comic book cosmology in general, because you can just do stuff like that. Yeah. Like, well, and you can just say, hey, he was lost in the 60s, they sent him off to space in the 60s, he disappeared, now he can't die, and he's a talking, intelligent dog, and he runs a space station at the edge of the universe. That's it. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:27 And they don't explain it either. I'm sure there's an explanation for it. But most people are like, we don't know how he got here or what's going on. And he still wears the little space suit. Yeah. Yeah, that's great. Talking animals in this all the way, mate. I think the Nova Commander, though, is Glenn Close.
Starting point is 01:18:40 Really? Yeah. Nova Core head. Glenn Close, okay. Yeah. Well, you know she can run a team. We do know that. The Shield. I was going to say. Something else she's been, okay Yeah Well you know she can run a team We do know that The Shield
Starting point is 01:18:45 I was going to say Something else she's been in? Name another thing I was thinking of Meryl Streep Right Who is the more extreme version of Glenn Close? There we go, I did it again Villains Mason
Starting point is 01:18:57 Now, they can't draw from all the Marvel villains for this Because some are owned by Fox Well yeah The Badoon, owned by Fox. The Skrulls are partially owned by Fox, so they could probably still use them. Well, interestingly... Oh, no, go ahead. Finish the thought.
Starting point is 01:19:12 Oh, okay. I was going to say, because the Chitauri in The Avengers, the Ultimate Avengers, they fight the Chitauri, who are the Skrulls. Yeah. They're the same. They've just given them a different name in the Ultimate Universe. Yeah, yeah. And they can shapeshift and stuff like that in the Ultimate Universe.
Starting point is 01:19:26 But in the Avengers movie, they were just real annoying aliens. Just real persistent. Yeah, that's it. Just a lot of them. And they all phantom menaced at the end. Yeah, they sure did. And they blew up their spaceship or whatever. Or Independence Day also.
Starting point is 01:19:38 Yeah, good point. They were antiquated. Yeah, because once you get into the space stuff, a lot of that is Fantastic Four territory. So they can't necessarily use any of that. The Shi'ar are from... They're sort of an X-Men property more than anything. So they can't necessarily use any of those. That's right, yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:55 Yeah, so they might be stuck in a lot of these. Yeah, you okay with that though? Yeah, it's fine. I mean, they make use of what they've got though, don't they? Yeah, definitely. So I don't think it really impacts on them too much. But hey, what are we going to do about it yes exactly yeah so the villains in this though are the main ones are thanos who's going to be instigating the whole thing also from the
Starting point is 01:20:12 comics you got villains like um the universal church of truth is a big player sure yeah and whatever and whatever i could go through them but i'm not gonna i kind of want to see a celestial okay yeah a whole bunch of them sure but i mean But I mean, that's kind of a game changer in that they're essentially unkillable and kind of... It really does, yeah. There's a reason why in the comics they keep a lot of this stuff separate. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:34 For people like me, anyway, who's an idiot. Right. Like something like Captain America. Oh, I'm not disputing that. It's very easy to pick up and read. Yeah, it's a guy with a shield and he's quite strong. Exactly. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:46 So yeah, I can understand why they do keep these things separate. But with this, it's like, you know, the Celestials created the Eternals. They performed genetic manipulation on the people of ancient Earth. Yeah. And they created the Eternals. And then they had to go to Titan. Yep. Saturn's moon. And that's where Thanos was born.
Starting point is 01:21:00 So he's a Titanian Eternal. And then his granddad exploded. And that made all the Eals like immortal and it gave them cosmic powers and then like highlander yeah like exactly and then thanos went mad and then etc etc okay yeah yeah yeah sure yeah i got all that down but yeah i appreciate that thank you i was gonna say it yeah you nailed it yeah i wasn't gonna say any of that no it's it's not nonsense but i love it yeah so yeah but than. I was going to say it, but you nailed it. I wasn't going to say any of that. No, it's all nonsense, but I love it. So yeah, but Thanos is not going to be the main villain. Ronan the Accuser.
Starting point is 01:21:30 Okay. Which I read for years as Ronan the Accursor as well. Well, that's another of those things. Exactly. Who were you going to ask about it? Exactly. Anyone, a general member of the public? That's right.
Starting point is 01:21:40 Who do you love? It's clearly Ronan the Accuser, though. It's spelt like that. Yeah, yeah. And he's always accusing. Had you read any of his work, he's clearly wrote in the accuser though. Like it's spelt like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's always accusing. Had you read any of his work, he's accusing people all the time.
Starting point is 01:21:49 Left, right, center. Oi! That's my lunch! Yeah. Oi, that's my lunch too! Hey, wait a minute. Oh. I've been throwing out
Starting point is 01:21:58 some accusings. Willy nilly. That's it. So he's going to be played by Lee Pace. I don't know if you saw The New Hobbit. I know you didn't.
Starting point is 01:22:04 I didn't. He was Legolas' father in it. Oh, yeah. So he's the to be played by Lee Pace. I don't know if you saw The New Hobbit. I know you didn't. I didn't. He was Legolas' father in it. Oh, yeah. And so he's the villain, the main villain. But again, that's one of those characters where the actor could be really anyone. Yeah, that's right. He's a Thanos kind of... Like, he's got a big helmet and he's...
Starting point is 01:22:14 He's Thanos-lite, basically. Yeah, more or less. Yeah. Yeah. Nebula also was in it, who's played by... Karen Gillian, I saw. Gillian, yeah. Who shaved her head for the role.
Starting point is 01:22:23 Yeah. People did not like that. Just the idea of her shaving her head. Yeah.? Gillian, yeah. Who shaved her head for the role. Yeah, people did not like that. Just the idea of her shaving her head. Yeah. She looks good, though. Oh, she looks great. But also, I think it's interesting that Nebula hasn't always had a shaved head. No, she hasn't.
Starting point is 01:22:34 They could have just gone with her with hair. And the other thing is, I'll see her in the trailer. A lot of it, she's got cybernetics in her head. You could have just ball-capped that. Yeah, exactly. Hey, whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do what you want to do.
Starting point is 01:22:44 I would assume at this point, what you could do is dye somebody's hair the same color as a green screen oh yeah it's green screen it out you're right yeah that's it but the big push on this movie is though there's a lot of practical stuff okay you know like it's very kind of they build sets and whatever i hear they actually killed a celestial and put his head at the edge of space. Good. As a buddy should. Yeah. Oh, yeah, so she's a space pirate and mercenary.
Starting point is 01:23:10 Apparently she's got some sort of beef with Gamora. Would you assume she has slightly enhanced strength and durability and a healing factor of some kind? That's exactly right. Great. Good. Yeah. Look, Mason, I'm going to... I guess we could recommend some readings for Guardians of the Galaxy
Starting point is 01:23:23 for those to catch up. That being said, we've spoken about everything you will need to know. Right, exactly. So this is really just extra stuff if you want to hear this. I'm going to go... Yeah, I'm going to say, again, Operation Galactic Storm. I mentioned that straight paperback at some point. Sure.
Starting point is 01:23:35 If not, steal it off the internet. Great. Tell them I sent you. But there is actually a good... There's a really good sequence where Iron Man fights Ronan the Accuser and he's clearly outmatched. Oh, cool. And he just decides he's going to set his nuclear self-destruct. Nice.
Starting point is 01:23:48 If he's not going to win, everybody's going to die. Gotcha. I love it. Typical Stark. What's that called again? Operation Galactic Storm. I'm going to say 20. I'll check it out. I'm going to say, and I recommend this in the video, Volume 1 Legacy.
Starting point is 01:24:05 Where does that start? Does that start at Guardians of the Galaxy issue 1? From 2008. Yeah, that's the kind of newish run. And it comes that a big war had just happened or whatever. And it's the start of the team. And it's kind of them working out who they are and whatever. It's a decent read.
Starting point is 01:24:24 That being said, and I'll probably get shit canned for this. Yeah, I hope so. For a lot of people, I would say you probably probably you could just leave this and just wait for the movie it's it's if you have never been into it you're not really into comics or whatever you could you could absolutely just not read this stuff and it would be fine yeah you might even enjoy the movie more i don't know but it's just because it's very daunting going into this right exactly and i say that as somebody who's an expert on comics. You sure do.
Starting point is 01:24:47 You've got to be an expert on something. I'll tell you what. That's it. So, yeah. I'm not saying it's not worth reading because it is. Yeah, yeah. It's good. But there's a lot going on there.
Starting point is 01:24:55 I'm going to say go back a bit further. I mean, it's a couple of solid years of work. Go back and read Annihilation. Okay. Because that's... It's one of those ones that's difficult to get into because it's kind of like, you know, four issues of Annihilation, Thanos, and then four issues of Annihilation, Ronan the Accuser, and then there's Annihilation. Okay. Because that's... It's one of those ones that's difficult to get into because it's kind of like, you know, four issues of Annihilation, Thanos, and then four issues of Annihilation, Ronan the Accuser,
Starting point is 01:25:08 and then there's Annihilation issue one, and then there's, you know, Annihilation, Rocket Raccoon, or whatever. Yeah, yeah. But go back to that. Okay. That's... It's a... If you want to...
Starting point is 01:25:17 If you do want to jump in the deep end, just do that. It's... They're really... The art's great, and I think the storyline's great if you can just read an issue a week. Sure. Just get your head around it. And so it's Annihilation
Starting point is 01:25:29 and the sequel called Annihilation Conquest. Cool. Which, Why didn't they just call it Annihilation 2? Electric Boogaloo. Yes.
Starting point is 01:25:35 There was boogalooing involved so I don't know why, quite frankly. I sent them a letter. I sent them an angry letter. Cool, cool. So yeah, so there you go.
Starting point is 01:25:42 There's two options there if you wanted to get started on the reading. One a little bit easier, one deep end stuff. Yeah. And it is. So, there you go. There's two options there if you wanted to get started on the reading. One a little bit easier. One deep end stuff. Yeah. And it is like... It's a big story.
Starting point is 01:25:49 It's the whole universe is at stake at every single second, which is... Right. You know, I enjoy that a lot. Sure. Quick, give me one more extreme character. Iron Man. War Machine. Oh, why didn't I...
Starting point is 01:25:58 You idiot. Captain America, Winter Soldier. And US Agent. And Iron Man. Yeah. Classic spin-off. Yeah. Also, Captain America when he got turned into a werewolf.
Starting point is 01:26:11 What? That happened. Of course it did. Yeah. Did the serum go bad? No, he just got bitten by a werewolf. Well, that happens, I guess. Robin.
Starting point is 01:26:19 Um. I guess the next Robin. Yeah, pretty much. The corpse of the previous Robin. I guess Red Hood is kind of a Nightwing kind of yeah and a Red Robin from Kingdom Come
Starting point is 01:26:30 yeah sure sure yeah yeah there you go Hawkman more extreme Hawkman he became more extreme okay that's the thing
Starting point is 01:26:36 Daredevil became more extreme he did pink black and pink outfit great or is that more extreme it was more extreme it had metal bits on it
Starting point is 01:26:42 okay you got me you son of a bitch. It's a great time for comics. It is. There's some other stuff that you can actually check out, Mason, if you don't want to get into the comics. There's two episodes in particular of different shows. You know the Avengers Earth Mightiest Heroes?
Starting point is 01:26:55 Oh, yep. There was a Guardians of the Galaxy episode. There's an episode called Michael Korvac. Check it out. Oh, with Korvac. He's like a power cosmic kind of guy. Well, that's it, Mason. Now, being... I haven't Mason now being I don't know
Starting point is 01:27:05 alright okay yeah the other one is an ultimate he's a real jerk basically okay right he tried to
Starting point is 01:27:12 he tried to make humanity a paradise but we were having none of that we're gonna like that
Starting point is 01:27:17 give us our free will and our smoke and our cigarettes yeah that's what we like
Starting point is 01:27:21 that's what we love yeah the other one is the ultimate an ultimate spider-man episode called just guardians of the galaxy so i think that's a pretty good uh intro to those things
Starting point is 01:27:30 you know phil colson and the voice of phil colson is in the spider ultimate as the principal yeah that's it and he is the actual character great so that's the only way they kind of can merge marvel and what sony own is right right because son Sony own the movie rights, but Marvel own everything else. Okay, interesting. Like comics and whatever. So there you go. Take that, Sony. Well, Mason, what a show it's been.
Starting point is 01:27:50 But the show ain't over yet. Isn't it? Because it's time for What We Reading, What We Gonna Read. Oh, yeah. The segment we introduced last week. The best named segment. Where basically we talk about things that we think people should be watching
Starting point is 01:28:05 at the moment or reading or anything or something that we're going to get into and what not
Starting point is 01:28:11 do you want to go first or do I do I think you should go first because I haven't thought
Starting point is 01:28:14 of anything because I forgot we had that segment I forgot you tried to shoo
Starting point is 01:28:17 on this in last week that's it so basically I read something this week called
Starting point is 01:28:22 Irredeemable oh I love Irredeemable yeah it's pretty great it's pretty great. It's about a superhero called the Plutonian, and he is essentially Superman in every way. He's got all the powers of Superman.
Starting point is 01:28:31 He's like the best guy in the world. And then he just decides one day to just kill everybody. And he just turns into a complete psychopath. And he's not blasted with a ray or whatever. He just snaps. He's sinking nations. Yeah. Series like this
Starting point is 01:28:45 are really great because we've done superhero stuff we know all the classic superhero stuff and he's kind of a twist on it
Starting point is 01:28:52 because when Superman gains his powers and he had a great upbringing where he believes in truth and justice
Starting point is 01:28:59 and all that sort of stuff and that happens with a lot of characters they're gifted with great powers and they decide that the way forward is to be the greatest superhero ever.
Starting point is 01:29:07 Yes. But in this case, it's a guy who was given these powers, but maybe the burden has always been too much for him and it was only a matter of time until he cracks. Exactly. And that's exactly what happens here. That's right. Yeah. And it unfolds because they're unsure where he's from or what his powers originated from
Starting point is 01:29:21 and all that kind of stuff. And it unfolds. There's two volumes you can get on Comixology. Uh-huh. I think it's about 6060 in total or whatever I paid for it. It's a good read. It does, in the second volume, it gets very cosmic, which is, you know, which we love. But it's still, it's easy to follow because it's standalone
Starting point is 01:29:35 and it's got a definitive end point. That's true, yeah. So I would say, you know, it's definitely worth a read. It is expensive. It's $60 in total. But maybe give a couple issues a read and go from there yeah so yeah well then i'm gonna recommend incorruptible which is the spin-off series how do you like that i hate it mason wow what do you think it's also
Starting point is 01:29:55 great but it's it's the reverse it's a guy max damage who's the who's like a former super villain yeah who decides in the wake of the Plutonian going insane that he might actually have to do his part to save the world. Cool. So he changes his ways. Alright. Did you not read that also? I've not read that.
Starting point is 01:30:10 Time to get into it, mate. That's it. Yeah. We've both got homework, Mason. You have to read all the Guardians of the Galaxy. I'm going to have, I'm going to, actually I'm going to read Annihilation again. Cool, alright. Just to get a refresher on it because it's really great.
Starting point is 01:30:21 Great. Well, that's pretty much the show then, Mason. Yeah. Look, and if you've got something That you're reading at the moment Oh let us know I would like to know All about the newest stuff
Starting point is 01:30:29 Absolutely Definitely Because I'm way behind I'm years behind You know what The problem is with everything There's so much good TV And whatever at the moment
Starting point is 01:30:36 And comics and everything You literally cannot See and read everything Uh huh yeah You know what I mean So there's obviously Gaps in our knowledge So there's probably people out there,
Starting point is 01:30:45 Mason, believe it or not, who know more about comics than we do. Oh, I bet there are. Yeah. There are certainly people who would know more about comics but don't feel the need to spurt that all over the internet in an ignorant way.
Starting point is 01:30:58 That's right. So why would that stop us? You're absolutely right, Mason. You're absolutely right. So I guess that's the show for this week. Pretty great. If you'd like to get in contact. No shout outs this week. Oh. So yeah if you want a shout out. I'll shout out whatever.
Starting point is 01:31:10 I don't care. Give us an email at weeklyplanetpod. I think it's probably because we ruined them all last time. We sure did. Yeah. Weeklyplanetpod at Gmail Twitter Facebook. Yes. What do you think about that Mason? I think those are all correct. You're right Mason. And the way to go. They are all right. and find Mason at Wikipedia Brown
Starting point is 01:31:27 is that correct? that is correct that's right you can find me at MrSundayMovies that is correct on Twitter oh yes and also if you could
Starting point is 01:31:34 rate us on iTunes that'd be great also the Mackenzie Mustache movement it continues it plows forth yeah yeah it's not the movement
Starting point is 01:31:42 that they want but it's one that they need running how's that go? it's not the movement that they want but it's one that they need right now. How's that go? It's not the mustache that we've seen. It's the one that we had. Yes.
Starting point is 01:31:52 Anyway, keep doing that because it's great. I'm enjoying that a lot. We will get an answer out of him. Optimus Prime. What does that mean? A more extreme version.
Starting point is 01:31:59 It's Optimus Prime. Yeah. Or Ultra Magnus. Yeah, good point. Also, that's a toy. How dare you? It's a comic. Yeah, or Ultra Magnus. Yeah, good point. Also, that's a toy. How dare you? It's a comic. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:07 Hancock. No, this character's from the 90s. He's not from the 90s. How dare you? A picture of a really muscular man. A picture of an even more muscular man, but he's got pouches filled with gun belts and stuff. Robocop.
Starting point is 01:32:25 Robocop 2. Gorilla Man. No, doesn't count. Probably Gorilla Grodd. Jersey Boys, the musical. Jersey Girl, the Kevin Smith film. You idiots. You got me, Mason.
Starting point is 01:32:41 Yep, every time. You've won this week. Thank you. Well done. Thank you. Thanks, everyone. Have a wonderful week. Thanks for listening. Yep, every time. You've won this week. Thank you. Well done. Thank you. Thanks, everyone. Have a wonderful week. Thanks for listening.
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