The Weekly Planet - 228 Ready Player One is...

Episode Date: April 2, 2018

Hey April fools and also new episode. We get stuck right into Ready Player One as well as news on Jurassic World 3, Captain Marvel, Wonder Woman 2, X-Men movies being pushed back, more info on the can...celled Deadpool tv series and moooooore. Thanks for listening!Just Make The Thing: https://t.co/YK0Rpv6KvIReady Player One Easter Eggs: https://t.co/mw1hrrZ64C0:00 The Start4:53 Jurassic World 37:54 Captain Marvel casting15:52 Wonder Woman 217:00 X-Men films pushed back23:16 Uwe Boll is a moron33:22 Fantastic Four back!39:34 Cancelled Deadpool series43:02 Rom Space Knight movie47:49 Ready Player One Review Non Spoilers1:11:53 Ready Player One Review Spoilers1:38:34 What We Reading/What We Gonna Read1:42:44 Letters It’s Time For LettersBuy Ready Player One on Amazon: https://amzn.to/33ghJrQThe Weekly Planet YouTube Channel: https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHFind ourT-Shirts here: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:55 This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday. With me as always is my co-host, Nick Mason. I'm right here. I nearly did an April Fool's. I thought I'll say you're somebody else,
Starting point is 00:01:25 but I couldn't think of the funniest person I could think of was Jon Bon Jovi. Wow. But it's not really a joke. It's just a lie. It just derails for no reason. It derails for no reason. People would wonder how you got Jon Bon Jovi on the show. How was I supposed to roll with that?
Starting point is 00:01:40 Exactly. Was I supposed to do a Jon Bon Jovi impression, given that I know nothing about Jon Bon Jovi? You sing the entirety of the song it's my life okay that would have been really good to sell the lie are you love were you loving april 4th it's over now oh yeah isn't it it's it's great when just a corporation really just so good just ruins a thing yeah they're like um yeah we're gonna we're gonna new flavor of chocolate milk and it's farts. But there's always people underneath them like, I don't think people are going to enjoy farts
Starting point is 00:02:10 as a flavor of chocolate milk. I don't think this is... And then somebody's going to be like, well, thank God. I remember them bringing out fart-flavored chocolate milk back in the 90s. I'm glad to see it back. I, for one, am against fart-flavored chocolate milk. I'm taking a stand.
Starting point is 00:02:26 Me too. April Fool's, just kidding, I love it. I came in here and Claire, your wife, immediately said, you look really tired. You don't look, you look the same. Do you think that was an April Fool's prank? It may have been, yeah. That's very true.
Starting point is 00:02:40 She's out there just fist pumping. She's been fist pumping for 10 minutes while we've been sitting in here. See, that's a quality April Fool's. You better believe it. She's been fist pumping for 10 minutes while we've been sitting in here. See, that's a quality April Fool's. You better believe it. Because it makes me doubt myself. And I'm going to go through the whole day and it's going to affect. See, pretending I'm Jon Bon Jovi or that I enjoy the taste of fart-flavored chocolate milk is not.
Starting point is 00:02:58 That doesn't affect me. But later in this day, every interaction I have with somebody is going to be me going, do they know I'm, do they think I look tired? Maybe I am tired. Am I sick? Maybe I'm just old. Yeah. Oh, no. But Mason.
Starting point is 00:03:12 Yes. You did a Facebook Q&A on the Planet Broadcasting Great Mates group last Thursday. That's true. It was live. I caught the tail end of it. Yeah. Very good stuff. And let me tell you, there is a sweet gag right up front.
Starting point is 00:03:22 And then never again for the whole q a fantastic it looks like i'm going to be doing the one this thursday so if you're in that group that'll be about i think it's going to be 9 a.m melbourne time which is like night time in other places in the world that is correct yeah yes but if you want to change the uh if you want to change the the results of that you can just go yeah go vote for planet broadcast go for vote for jess perkins so i don't have to do it. Because I think she's second as far as I know. But now you've double skewed the results
Starting point is 00:03:50 because people are going to vote for you more because they know you don't want to do it. Yeah. Well, settle in for an hour of me going, good. Thanks a lot, guys. Terrific. Cutting into my day.
Starting point is 00:04:01 It was a moment because I tested it beforehand. I just tested it on my own facebook page where like i you click start live video and then you record for a minute and then i clicked end live video and then it was like saving live video there it is and then i did it i'm like oh this works perfectly this is fine i can do this on my phone and then i set it up and then i did the q a supposed to be for an hour did it for like an hour 20. And then I hit finish save video and it went saving video. And then everything just crashed to black on my phone. And just everything stopped working.
Starting point is 00:04:32 And it wouldn't start up for a minute. And I'm like, oh, I've made a mistake here. This is definitely my fault. You did it. What do you want to do? That's true. But it worked. So yeah, they are saved.
Starting point is 00:04:41 That's actually, yeah, that's on there now. So if people want to check it out, they do get saved. And there's going to be a different Planet Broadcasting person every week. And of course, the lowest placed person on the poll every week gets booted from Planet Broadcasting forever. Correct. That's right. Who was it this week? Josh Earl. Good.
Starting point is 00:04:55 What a funny man. What a nice man. But he's out. Yeah. Also, Claire's Just Make The Thing podcast is out this week. And it's up right now. And it's me and her talking about parenting and business and stuff. Yeah, also, Claire's Just Make the Thing podcast is out this week, and it's up right now, and it's me and her talking about parenting and business and stuff. Yeah, cool.
Starting point is 00:05:09 It was good fun. She's trying to convince me, and I'm thinking about doing a side podcast together strictly without you, Mason. Oh, all right. But I'm like, I don't like talking about personal stuff and anybody knowing anything about me. Yeah, well. But I'll think about it. Yeah, and doing extra work also. That's a part about me. Yep, well. But I'll think about it.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Yeah. And doing extra work also, that's a part of it. That's true. But anyway, we should get on with it. But it's a good episode, I think. Let's press on. Would you call it As a Father? Yes, I would.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Okay, good. Even though Claire is doing it with you? That's what, well, yes. Wow. Regardless. I chucked you under the bus there. You certainly did. First bit of news.
Starting point is 00:05:43 Yeah. Colin Trevorrow, director of Jurassic World, Hot Tub Time Machine. No, the other Time Machine one. Safety Not Time Machine. That's the one. And Book of Henry. Yes. And not Star Wars. That's right.
Starting point is 00:05:57 After Book of Henry, not Star Wars. After Book of Henry. We'll be directing Jurassic World 3. Okay. The end to the new Jurassic trilogy. Do you think that is happening? It depends whether he directs another indie film in between. I don't think he is, as far as I know.
Starting point is 00:06:14 No, I think it will. Well, because he's also producer on the latest one, and I think he's got a hand in writing it as well. Who's directing the latest one? J.A. Bayona, I think. Okay, a question I ask every time this comes up. I still haven't seen When a Monster Calls, which was his last one he did,
Starting point is 00:06:31 which was apparently very good. And Liam Neeson is a monster and he's like, maybe I'm a metaphor for bullying or whatever. So, you know. That's his catchphrase. That's his catchphrase, yeah. Oh, okay. But yeah, give him another shot.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Wait, what kind of monster is he? It's like a big tree kind of monster. Oh, okay, I've seen that. Have you really? No, I haven't seen it, but I've seen a trailer. Great, so you haven't seen it. Or a tweet. Okay, good.
Starting point is 00:06:55 Or a promoted Instagram post. Did you see that clip? Ah, the metaphor for childhood bullying. Yeah, okay. Is it based on a video game or a book or something? I think it might be a book. Yeah, it's a video game. That's what I thought.
Starting point is 00:07:06 You should get another run at this, don't you think? Because after being booted from Star Wars, that's rough. You get Josh Tranked, you're out the door. So this is like a good bounce back movie. It's also an opportunity to be like, people hated the Book of Henry. I have not seen it. But yeah, why not? Give it another shot.
Starting point is 00:07:24 I guess, but also again what is he actually doing? Evidently what he did on Jurassic World was just not make any trouble. Yeah, that's true. He made exactly the thing that, and it's fine, isn't it? It sure is. It's completely serviceable.
Starting point is 00:07:41 And we also don't know what's going to happen in the next one. So what is it going to's going to happen in the next one so what is it going to lead to loose dinosaurs in the universe Planet of the Apes style what if we're called
Starting point is 00:07:49 what if Jurassic World 3 is called loose dinosaurs in the universe look out it's loose dinosaurs in the universe yeah
Starting point is 00:07:57 so no I think why not and if he balls it up just give him another tentpole movie franchise and if he balls that up give him another one that'spole movie franchise. And if he balls that up, give him another one. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Yeah, that's true. Yeah. He's not a terrible director by any stretch. Except for that really terrible film he made probably, which I haven't seen. Captain Marvel News. Hello. It's filming at the moment. I know you're a big fan of set photos and Brie Larson punching a man in the street or whatever.
Starting point is 00:08:21 But it's the 90s. Yeah, you got me with Brie Larson punching a man in the street. Now it but it's the 90s. I am, yeah. You got me with Brie Larson punching a man in the street, and it's the 90s. It's the 90s, yeah. There's been some news about some returning MCU characters that you may not be expecto. So it is. If you're not interested in any kind of casting news,
Starting point is 00:08:38 tune out now. Yes, that's right. So it's Clark Gregg is back. Is it Clark? Is it Greg Clark or Clark Gregg? Clark Gregg. Okay, good. Because it's G-R-E-G-G
Starting point is 00:08:46 Imagine if your first name was Greg but two G's That'd be the best That'd be the worst I think that would be the best I think you're wrong What if it was the last G was a capital G as well? Like bookends Then it'd be a perfect palindrome
Starting point is 00:08:59 Yeah that's right But imagine going to like Disneyland And you have to find one of those little nameplates. Yeah, no good. As a kid and they're like, here you are, Greg, and your parents have drawn on the last G with a sharpie. Capital G. Exactly. Perfect palindrome.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Do you think you should just give a kid like just regular spelling and a regular name? Yes. Just so in case they go to Disneyland? Exactly. I think now people have like printing machines, but they can print up a badge pretty quickly now. I think we're beyond that. Okay. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:09:28 No, I get it. All right. I shouldn't have been so close-minded. You're right. You can name your kid Rainbow with a Y. That's fine. Oh, that'd be so good. You were locked and loaded with that,
Starting point is 00:09:37 are you? Have you met a child called Rainbow with a Y? I've met some straight, some, you know, you teach, I've taught a lot of kids, hundreds of, there are a few odd names in there,
Starting point is 00:09:47 but yeah, there's a lot of, there's a lot of Chris's, there's a lot of Michael's. Chris with a Y? No, I've never had a Chris with a Y. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:53 Yeah. Do you want me to name all the kids that I've ever taught? A lot of Taylors? I bet there's a lot of Taylors. There's a lot of Taylors. Mostly girls, but yeah, there's a lot of Taylors,
Starting point is 00:10:01 yeah. What were we talking about? Oh yeah, so Clark Gregg. Yes. Three G's, but not together. Perfect palindrome.
Starting point is 00:10:06 He's back as Agent Coulson. Correct. Which? Mullet. Mullet. What would he have? What 90s hair would he have? I don't think it would be.
Starting point is 00:10:16 Could he do white man dreads? I think they'll give him. Or Cobain hair? Yeah. No, I think they'll give him that. The George Clooney, the Caesar haircut. It's too early for the Caesar haircut. That's more of a like 97 thing.
Starting point is 00:10:28 Oh, I see, right. And when is this set? The early 90s. Like 91, 92. Maybe he's ahead of his time. Maybe he is. Yeah. Maybe he's a trendsetter.
Starting point is 00:10:34 But he's kind of got the dad hair, like it's a little bit receding. Yeah. So I think you'd have to wig him up just a little bit. Yeah, I agree. Just fill it in a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. But also this gives me hope that they're going to bring him back for a future movie.
Starting point is 00:10:46 That's very possible, yeah. Because if they're, my understanding was because there's this rift between the TV and movie Marvel universes that they're like, never bring any of the TV characters into the movie universe. But if they're bringing him back, maybe he's in an infinite universe. How excited must he be though to be like, I'm back in, finally. Yeah. Yeah. Well, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. This will be four minutes work. Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is apparently, well, the rumor is that it's going to wrap up fairly soon.
Starting point is 00:11:14 So, yeah. Maybe they'll fold them all in. Car Ghost Rider. The British one. Jake Chisel. Is he still in it? Or is he still dead on the moon or whatever? I think he's dead.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Didn't they kill him on the moon or something on a planet or something? Yeah. Yeah. Good on him. But apparently it's really good now. That's what people keep saying. Yeah. I have some time off.
Starting point is 00:11:35 I'll watch it. I won't. Great. The other one is Ronan. Keating. Yeah. Ronan Keating. Life is a roller coaster for him.
Starting point is 00:11:43 He's back. Yep. But no, Ronan the Accuser. Oh, right. Okay, sure. He died in Guardians of the Galaxy. That's true. But also Nick Fury is back.
Starting point is 00:11:53 And Nick Fury is back also. Oh, there's one more. Korath. The guy that Dave Bautista pulls the things out of his head. Oh, yeah. Or whatever. Cool man. Cool man.
Starting point is 00:12:02 He's a cool man. So I think that's great. It's a nice kind of throwback and all of those characters can obviously exist do you think the 90s do you think because you know in in the comic books ronan is like he's a kree yeah soldier and he's you know he's he's risen up the ranks and he's gained these incredible powers somehow i can't remember how but i would like it if maybe his origin in the movies is he's just a regular dude on earth maybe he works at a juice bar.
Starting point is 00:12:26 But he's blue? It's from the juice. Okay, sure. It's too many blueberry bursts. Yeah, right. Yeah. This movie's also going to kick off Skrulls. And then we're going to lead into Infinity War 4. I mean, Avengers 4.
Starting point is 00:12:40 So I think it's going to establish who's some Skrulls. You know what I mean? Do you think they're going to throw out there that Clark or Greg or Greg Clark or whatever his name is is a Skrull? But they took his head off. They took the top of his head off, yeah. They replaced his arm. He's not got a lot of original parts.
Starting point is 00:12:55 But you can replicate a Skrull down to like a molecular level of a human, isn't it? Some of them you can. And they don't know they're a Skrull. Yeah, the rules are kind of... The rules are very specific, but they're vague enough that you can and they don't know they're a scroll yeah the rules are kind of yeah the rules are very specific but they're vague enough that you can do whatever you want really but i think well the problem is that you have to the problem is if you if you're going to make somebody a scroll in the in any of the modern like any of the modern characters a scroll you have to eliminate some of their backstory and their character development past a certain point.
Starting point is 00:13:26 So I guess this would be a good opportunity to reboot any of the character arcs that people don't like. Yeah, right. It might be a good idea to maybe Black Widow. You could cut out some of her character arc in Ultron. Sure, yeah. Because you know that was like, I can't have kids and I'm a monster.
Starting point is 00:13:48 I'm a monster. Because I can't do that. Man, you're the same, Bruce Banner. You're a man who turns great a giant, destroys entire cities. But I can't have kids and I'm a monster. We're the same. So you just make her a Skrull. Yeah. And then you bring her a Skrull. Yeah. And then you bring her back.
Starting point is 00:14:06 Like after Avengers or from the 90s? Maybe after Avengers. Yeah. And then she's like, I can't have kids and I'm fine with that because that's not my defining characteristic as a human being. Maybe I'll adopt if I want. Yeah, that's it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:18 Or like Tony Stark. You could find the... Yeah, you wouldn't do it before the first Iron Man. No, that's true, yeah. Because imagine if just from the get-go he was a Skrull. Yeah, that'd be yodder. What a twist, though. You'd get him just before he was peak Tony Stark.
Starting point is 00:14:35 Yeah, exactly. Like before the Cap Iron Man rift, maybe? I think you'd go Age of Ultron. I think that's a good point. Oh, this is wild. To be like, hey, I'm going to invent an AI and bring robots into the... On planet Earth or whatever. Surprise of a Skrull.
Starting point is 00:14:50 Yeah, okay, that works. Surprise of a Skrull, yeah. Where is he, though? In a box? Under some stairs? Probably in a box, yeah. Okay, good. Well, apparently in Civil War, though, there's hints towards...
Starting point is 00:14:59 You know what? He's probably in a box, you know, under his Malibu mansion, where there's that... Under those stairs. Yeah, right. There's just those glass stairs that spiral staircase. That's all gone. Yeah, I guess. He would have rebuilt it. That's true.
Starting point is 00:15:11 Yeah. He's in the pit even under that. Yeah. Who knows? But apparently, though, the Russo brothers have said there's hints in Civil War about Avengers 4. And if Avengers 4 is Skrull related, that means there might be some hints towards Skrulls.
Starting point is 00:15:25 Somebody said to me on Twitter, I can't remember who, but that Captain America has flecks of green in his eyes or whatever. So people are like, does that mean he's a Skrull? Okay, right. But some people just have green in their eyes.
Starting point is 00:15:34 Maybe he's just got some beautiful green flecks. I got some green in my eyes, Mason. I don't mind telling you. Can't see it from here. I'm not ashamed. They look a bit muddy. I know, but when you get close, we don't look in the eye.
Starting point is 00:15:44 We don't look at each other that's true yeah yeah we're both two powerful celebrities who refuse to let anyone look them in the eye so we can't we can never look at each other ever again but you know it's worth it it's worth it i think so definitely do you think that when the russo brothers say we put in some easter eggs to avengers 4 yeah do you think it's that or do you think a million people have said to them, hey, you know what, in Civil War you see some green
Starting point is 00:16:08 in Cap's eyes so maybe he's a Skrull and then they've gone, sure, that's pretty good. Yeah. That's a convenient entryway to pry into this. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:16 Very possible. I don't know. I hope there's at least one good twist of like, what, that guy's a Skrull? Yeah. What? What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:16:24 Okay. What? Oh do you mean? Okay. What? Oh, my God. How is this possible? I've been watching these movies for years. What if they introduce, like, a well-loved character from the comic books and now he's a guy who's surprised by exposition? Sure.
Starting point is 00:16:40 At this point, what? All right. Wonder Woman news for Wonder Woman 2. Pedro Pascal has been cast in Wonder Woman 2. You may remember him as the guy who got his eyes gouged out in Game of Thrones and the guy with the laser lasso from the Bad Kingsman movie. For sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:55 The guy who was Channing Tatum and then it wasn't. And then this guy replaced. Was he, narrow it down, was he in the group of people in that movie who were shot in the head? He was shot in the head. He was shot in the head. That's right. And then he became evil.
Starting point is 00:17:09 Or he was evil the whole time. I think he was already evil before he was shot in the head. Yeah. It's fine. He's shot in the head. They put a pillow with foam around your head. They fill it all in. They give you an eye patch.
Starting point is 00:17:21 And then they give you a shock. They give you a scare. They give you a scare. They give you real spookums. Yeah. And then you're back. Then you a scare they give you a real spookums yeah and then you're back then you're back from the dead yeah pretty good stuff interesting though i thought this was a fun little fact he was in the 2011 pilot that they cancelled oh with adrian palecki yeah what a what a climb like well done yeah wow good effort so no i think that's good
Starting point is 00:17:42 casting we don't know what role we know it's got Cheetah in it with, what's her name? Kristen. Kristen Wiig, yeah. Kristen Wiig, yeah. So, good work, everybody, Mason. Okay. Oh, here's a bunch of X-Men stuff. Great.
Starting point is 00:17:53 Is everything being pushed back? Everything's being pushed back, Mason. X-Men Dark Phoenix has been pushed from November to February. Okay. That might be because February's a good month to release stuff now, or it might be because it's crap. Maybe because it's Valentine's Day. Could very well be.
Starting point is 00:18:08 One of the rumours is that the third act is garbage. So it's probably just, there's a blue laser and they've got to, we've got to get the thing to close the thing! You know, that thing. Maybe the third act was garbage because it's Valentine's Day and the third act and they want to push it. Fair enough, yeah. Make it more appropriate.
Starting point is 00:18:24 How many superhero movies are there specifically where it's Valentine's Day in the third act and they want to push it. Fair enough, yeah. To make it more appropriate. How many superhero movies are there specifically where it's like, we need to grab the thing in a closer dimensional, but we need the key to get... It's all that. Yeah. Yeah. People love that.
Starting point is 00:18:35 People love that. Suicide Squad, Avengers. Are you not aware of the three-act structure? Are you somehow... Come on, mate. I'm sorry, yeah. You've seen enough to figure it out at this point. But okay, fine.
Starting point is 00:18:46 Push him back. The other one is New Mutants is being moved from February to August, which has already been pushed back. Well, you've got to get it out of the way of Dark Phoenix. Get it out of the way, mate. No, just release him in the same week. Have one kill the other. Actually, someone wrote in who saw an unfinished version of it
Starting point is 00:19:01 or claims to Mason. Could have been an April Fool's. Could have been an April Fool's. We don't know, yeah but uh it seems legit and i won't say the person's name because uh you get beaten to death if you tell everybody that you saw one of these don't risk your career definitely on a plot on a plot synopsis yeah but he was uh or she yep that was close uh but he it's a no it's a hey april fools you're getting fired yeah i think it was just a public screening or whatever that was close but he it's a he it's a he April Fool's
Starting point is 00:19:25 you're getting fired yeah I think it was just a public screening or whatever but they said it was unfinished like a lot of special effects
Starting point is 00:19:31 but it wasn't terrible like at all by a long shot long shot but one of the oh long shot that's a spoiler that's it
Starting point is 00:19:38 also I'm not going to spoil anything here because he also kept it vague and I'm keeping it even vaguer or she is keeping
Starting point is 00:19:43 this is close this is a close call who knows yeah apparently there's not Because he also kept it vague, and I'm keeping it even vaguer. Or she. It's keeping... This is close. What a close call, Mason. Who knows? Yeah. Apparently, there's not a lot of characters in it, and so he's not surprised. Or she, that they're adding more characters, and it felt like a kind of micro-budget PG Horror 13 kind of film. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Nothing better than a PG 13 horror film. Yeah, there's some good ones. There could be some good ones. Final Destination? I don't know. I can't think of any. I feel a lot of people probably get their arms
Starting point is 00:20:10 and legs cut off in that movie. Yeah, probably. Yeah, you're right. They probably get like a razor wire to the eye. Yeah, there's a lot of that. But what was I going to say?
Starting point is 00:20:18 And it doesn't, like if you're a big X-Men fan, apparently it's not very X-Men-ish. So you might be like, where's the suits? None of them have suits, so whatever. But if you're exhausted by X-Men fan. Apparently it's not very X-Men-ish. So you might be like, where's the suits? None of them have suits, so whatever. But if you're exhausted by X-Men things, breath of fresh air.
Starting point is 00:20:30 Yeah. The other thing is, apparently there's a rumor that Jon Hamm was Mr. Sinister, but apparently this is now not the case, which is a shame. What a rollercoaster. You really brought me up and shut me down. He'd be a great Mr. Sinister. Has he been in any superhero films? I don't believe so oh no
Starting point is 00:20:46 he was in was he in The Losers or The A-Team was he in one of those he was definitely not in The Losers The Losers is a comic book
Starting point is 00:20:53 but The A-Team obviously is it remember at the end of The A-Team there was a new boss they were like your old boss is corrupted your new boss is
Starting point is 00:20:59 John Hamm is he really is that him yeah I'm fairly certain okay right I'm going to double check no let's never check no I want to know.
Starting point is 00:21:05 Okay. I don't want to April Fool's myself. That's very true. I wrote A-treem. I'm an idiot. No, he is in the A-team. Wow, he's the new boss. Yeah, in that ongoing series.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Oh, wow. The A-team. That's a shit film. Because then they would, you know what? They would have put him on the field team in the next one. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, he was on the up and up. Well, it's time to come out of retirement.
Starting point is 00:21:26 Me, Jon Hamm. If you want a good A-team film, watch The Losers. It's got Chris Evans, it's got Jeffrey Dean Morgan. It's a lot of fun. Zoe Saldana's in it. Zoe Saldana's in it, yeah. That's it. And apparently, though, because they might be held,
Starting point is 00:21:40 like they're dangerous and all being held, and maybe it's Essex Corp or whatever, so maybe that's the Mr. Seuss thing. But that may all change, if that that's the Mr. Sinister thing. But that may all change, if that even was the case in the first place. I'd believe that this wasn't a terrible movie at some point. Would you believe that? Yeah, I'd believe it.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Sure. Yeah. But what about Dark Phoenix? Should they just cancel these? No. But they've made them, right? Or some part of them? They've made a lot of them yeah you're right yeah and they fox can make some money before it all goes to disney that's what i'm saying like
Starting point is 00:22:09 these will come out next year and then marvel will scrap it all yeah right yeah okay now put them out why not what about gambit because the production has been uh it has a start date of June this year. Oh, it's back on. It's back on. Wait, what month are we in? March, April. It's two months away. I said March, but that was an April Fool on you. You got me. But I knew it was April.
Starting point is 00:22:35 Got you. Very good. But yeah, so two months. As far as I know, they don't have a director. They must have a director, but they haven't announced it yet. Maybe it's Jon Hamm. Maybe it's Jon Hamm. He's the new boss.
Starting point is 00:22:44 He's free. Anyway, Gambit's's happening isn't it oh gambit oh what a dream he's just a guy who throws exploding playing cards why is this so much to this and he's got a cutout sock on his head and an accent and he does have a stick yeah he does have a fancy like a like a few like a bow star from the future yeah that's what he's got is it from the future no it's just regular stick where do you even get it i don't know does it explode it doesn't explode no i think you can put i think you put like a zappy field yeah and then you can hit people with it cool maybe forge built it
Starting point is 00:23:18 forge what's he he's like a mutant and he his powers, he can invent things. Wow, like an inventor. Yeah, exactly. That's so great. But better. But better? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can't even imagine such a thing. Imagine Einstein, but he's got a robot leg.
Starting point is 00:23:31 And a stick. He's built a good stick. Yeah, he's built a good stick, yeah. Okay, good. I know Forge. Why is Gambit the one everybody's... Hung up on? Why is there so much drama and build up around this one movie? Just make it.
Starting point is 00:23:44 Who cares? Yeah, good question. why is there so much drama and build up around this one movie just make it who cares yeah good question i wouldn't even say he's not really a beloved character for like as an x-men character yeah like people who like the 90s cartoon seem to like him a lot but other than that he's not really in a lot of other stuff no that's true he's not he doesn't have his own comic run at the moment or maybe he does i don't know he does, I'm not aware of it. Mason, do you love Uwe Boll? The director of Postal and... Other Crap?
Starting point is 00:24:11 Other Crap, yes, for sure. Good. What's he done this time? He's suing Warner Brothers for taking the name Rampage from his Rampage trilogy of films. Because the movie Rampage, as you know, is not based on a video game from the 80s. No.
Starting point is 00:24:25 It's a new thing that they stole. That's correct, yes. From a movie they bought. Amazing. I've got a quote here from him. Oh, here we go. Is it profanity-laden? There's a little bit.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Would you describe it as profanity-laden? Some of it. Would you describe it as a sprinkling of profanity? Yes. Okay. He's really mellowed in his old age, isn't he? He certainly is. He's not boxing his critics anymore.
Starting point is 00:24:45 We are now living in a world where independent movies are dead and the big players are only making all the money. That they then use developed brands and ideas from established series such as my Rampage films in order to make even more money is unfair but typical. The new Rampage movie will shrink my brand and my revenues I can make in the future with my Rampage movies. It also confuses the audience. movie will shrink my brand and my revenues I can make in the future with my Rampage movies. It also confuses the audience. I want Warner's change the title, especially because the new movie has nothing to do with a Rampage and looks like Jumanji 2 and is one of those typical feel
Starting point is 00:25:17 good popcorn bullshit movies that the studios use to brainwash America even more. All these kinds of movies, including Transformers, Avengers, are helping the military industrial complex in America to win and have retards like Trump become the president, I know, who would say that the earth is flat, so as soon as they think they can benefit from this. Now, sure, I can understand the point about furthering the military industrial complex with giant apes or whatever. Oh, absolutely, sure, yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:25:43 You want to know the synopsis for Rampage?age the the erva ball yeah rampage sure yeah a frustrated young man dons body armor and executes random strangers well that's yeah i mean they shouldn't be promoting the military industrial complex they should be glorifying a man who gets a bit angry one day and starts to mow down total strangers terrific but there's two sequels it looks like yeah capital punishment and president down rampage president down uwe boll is a fucking idiot yeah for sure also if anything this is nobody told him that this is based on a video game from the 80s somebody must have but the other thing is this would would, if anything,
Starting point is 00:26:25 this might trick people into buying his films. This is like a transmorphous situation. It's a transmorphous situation, but in reverse. Yeah. So Rampage Capital Punishment, that's the second one. Okay. A man takes over a TV station and holds a number of hostages as a political platform to awaken humanity instead of money.
Starting point is 00:26:46 This is IMDb. It doesn't even make any sense. I think what's happened here is he's just submitted this synopsis to IMDb and people have gone, the editor's gone, who cares, just put it up, doesn't matter. I don't want to think about this at all. What's the third one? The third one, President Down.
Starting point is 00:27:03 President Down. Is that his name? I hope so, yeah. Okay, Bill Williamson is back, alive and well, and doing a recon mission around DC. So presumably Bill Williamson is the character from the first two. Or the guy who held up the bank. Or the guy who held up the bank.
Starting point is 00:27:21 Or he's the guy that killed the guy who started... Maybe he's, who knows? Not money. No, but this time he wants to cause a major population disruption within the USA, which results in devastating consequences reverberating throughout the world. What's that got to do with President Down? Well, his new mission, this time to bring down the President of the United States and his secret service detail. Bill brings with him all the freaking havoc and acidity of the united states and his secret service detail bill brings with him all the freaking havoc and acidity of the previous two movies cool yeah nice is it about money what
Starting point is 00:27:51 i hear i didn't say it was about money so i'm sure it's not about the money this guy man it's so good one of the worst blokes like you don't want to be on the side of like big budget hollywood studios over independent filmmaking. But he's such a fucking idiot that I just... Nothing he says, I could... Did you know there are three In the Name of the King movies? They're not all Statham, though, are they? No.
Starting point is 00:28:16 In the second one... Oh, here we go. That's right, it's Dolph Lundgren. Yeah! That's right. Guys, everybody, go on your IMDb app or imdb.com and play along with us. Look how smug Lundgren is in this role. Oh, he's so smug. He's an Aquaman
Starting point is 00:28:30 as well. He's up and up, mate. Alright, but hang on. But in 3... So Dolph Lundgren's a genius. He's like a chemical engineer. Why's he doing this? I don't know. I mean, money. Anyway, in the name of the King 3, it's called In the Name of the King, The Last Job.
Starting point is 00:28:47 Wait, are these... These are like medieval... Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And the guy... Say score. Like...
Starting point is 00:28:55 Yeah. Journey. Journey, yeah. Mission. They had missions. Anyway, it's Dominic Purcell in 3. Who's that? That's Prison Break guy.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Oh, yeah, yeah. The wide one. The wide one, yeah. But he's also in a 2013 Irvabowl movie called Suddenly with Ray Liotta. Ray Liotta. Look how wide these dudes are. Look how wide they are. They're so wide together.
Starting point is 00:29:16 They're so wide. Look at the DVD cover. They're so wide. Look at a couple of, just a couple of wide, wide boys. That's all heads as well. They're just, oh my God. A couple of double wide boys just making a movie together. Anyway, Irvaball, garbage.
Starting point is 00:29:28 Everything he's ever made has been total garbage. And Postal's just about a guy who goes, that's based on a video game. How can he not know there are movies based on video games? And it's just a movie about, again, a guy who just gets mad at society and just goes on a shooting rampage. He also has a movie from 2011 called Blubberella. What's that? Please read that out.
Starting point is 00:29:50 I mean, you can probably guess. An action comedy centered on an overweight woman whose footsteps cause explosions and whose dual swords are used against anyone who makes fun of her. It's also set in 1940 in Germany. There's a character called Vag, but it's not Blabarella.
Starting point is 00:30:13 Clint Howard's in it. There's a character who's addicted to blood. I shit drinking blood. Blabarella's half vampire. There's so much. Okay. Yeah. There's so much in that.
Starting point is 00:30:26 It's so many ideas. I'm not finished. Blubberella loves nothing better than killing Nazis and a substantial turkey on her eye. Wow. This sounds like fun. It's like, so she's overweight and it's the 40s and she drinks blood.
Starting point is 00:30:49 And eats turkey on rye. Oh my God. Yeah, Hitler's in it. This is the last line of this synopsis, which has been submitted by Anonymous. So I can only imagine why. Blubberella, she's coming big time. Oh God. Why? Good stuff. Anyway. a match why Blabarella she's coming big time oh god why
Starting point is 00:31:06 good stuff anyway he's got a there's a movie he's got a movie from 2011 called Auschwitz that can't be
Starting point is 00:31:13 no I remember that what's that yeah it's probably about Auschwitz no it is oh yeah Blood Rain the Third Reich yeah
Starting point is 00:31:21 yes okay oh god it looks like that was an attempt at a serious drama. Good on him. But apparently it's very bad. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:31:30 But it looks... Anyway, Urvabol, look, yeah, good on him. Good stuff. No. Some of the best stuff. Fuck him and everything he's ever done. Yeah. Mason, Fantastic Four is back in comics.
Starting point is 00:31:42 Yes, they are. That's true. Which means everything seems to be on track with this Fox Marvel switcheroo deal, Disney deal. Dan's thought's going to be writing the new series. They cancelled them because the guy in front of, the guy in charge of Marvel was like,
Starting point is 00:31:54 fuck Fox and we're cancelling the X-Men. We mention that a lot, but is that, is that? I think that is actually true. Is that true or is it? Because we, oftentimes, like there's a lot of stuff where you can sort of read into it and go,
Starting point is 00:32:04 oh, they got rid of Wolverine because of this, whatever. But do these get confirmed, I guess? I mean, they keep Wolverine around because he's so popular, I assume. Because there's always a variation on Wolverine. Because they got rid of Wolverine, but then they brought back old Wolverine, and they also brought in X-23 and a bunch of other stuff. And Honey Badger. And Honey Badger, yes.
Starting point is 00:32:26 But apparently they might have a new lineup in this new run. I don't know whether that's true or not. You'd think you'd just go classic, though, wouldn't you? What, a new Fantastic Four lineup? Yeah. Huh. Who would you include? The robot?
Starting point is 00:32:39 Yeah, who'd be the robot? She-Hulk. Yeah, good. Spider-Man. Spider-Man's been in it. So that's three. Yep. A pillowcase with a smile on it.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Yes, correct. Yes. Very good. Phew, we didn't even have one. Yeah. Well, we needed an invisible woman character. That's true, yeah. Kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:32:55 So you're like, well, what's under the pillowcase? Could be anything. Yeah. It's good as. It's good as. It's good as, yeah. I don't really have anything else to say about it, but I know a lot of people are really big fans of those characters.
Starting point is 00:33:04 Yeah. So it's good to see them back. And they've sort of been, in the comic books, they've sort of been behind the scenes a little bit. They've been away doing assorted cosmic stuff, rebuilding the universe. So, yeah, good to see them back. I like the Fantastic Four.
Starting point is 00:33:17 Absolutely. And Dan Slott did a good run on The Thing a few years ago, which is very, very good, so it's very fun. So you hope it's as good as that, or if not, 100 times better. Correct. Actually, most of the Fantastic Four runs of the last decade have all been really good. Really? There's a Jonathan Hickman run, which is really good.
Starting point is 00:33:32 They could have picked any of those and made the movie of that. They really could have, couldn't they? But they didn't. Future Foundation, that's a spin-off for that. It was good. Do you like Evil Reed Richards from Another Dimension? Yes, the maker. I like that as well.
Starting point is 00:33:43 Yeah, that's a good... Maybe they can do that. Bring in reed richards just straight away i think now you probably have to establish nice reed richards nice reed richards and have us like him first yeah we were talking about uh hugh jackman joining the mcu and how he's mentioned he's going to be in it i think we missed a trick there and a few people brought this up he probably won't be wolverine they'll probably make him mr fantastic or i don't think he'd want to be he'd probably be a good I think we missed a trick there. And a few people brought this up. He probably won't be Wolverine. They'll probably make him Mr. Fantastic. I don't think he'd want to be.
Starting point is 00:34:09 He'd probably be a good Mr. Fantastic. He's always been Mr. Fantastic to me. Great. And Mr. Showbiz. And Mr. Showbiz. Mr. Song and Dance Man. But yeah, I think if they do use him, it's going to be something else. That'd be good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:20 Because he's tall. Yeah, right. You know? He is tall. You get a shorter guy for Wolverine and you get him to play a tall guy. El he's tall. Yeah, right. You know, so you can get a shorter guy for Wolverine and you get him to do a player tall guy. Elongated man. Mr. Fantastic.
Starting point is 00:34:30 What you get him to do, you get him to be the head scientist of the Weapon X program. And he's just in a, like he's just in the, you know, when an actor, like a bad actor will have like a fake head, like a really bad headshot where they're pretending to be assorted characters to show their range. Tennis player, fireman, scientist he's it's white lab coat like plaid shirt bow tie absolutely clipboard excellent glasses held together with tape and then he gets beheaded yeah immediately yes yes yeah that would be great anyway okay would you give him would you make him
Starting point is 00:35:02 a character that is eventually going to become a superhero or would you give him, would you make him a character that is eventually going to become a superhero? Or would you give him like, would you make him a superhero? Would you make him like a character who's never had any powers in the Marvel universe? What would you do? That's a good question. Maybe it would be interesting to have him a regular, like make him like a Coulson-y, Shield-y type guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:18 As opposed to a super powered dude. Because also you'd probably want to play to the age that he is now. Yes. You wouldn't want to be like look it's young whoever dumbledore there you go yeah it's young dumbledore he's back but yeah do you know what i mean i know i do i didn't like a cool shield agent would be good yep anyone else he could be white nick fury he looks like like him. Original recipe, Nick Fury. That's true, yeah. That'd be weird, though.
Starting point is 00:35:47 It would be very weird. Yeah. Because that would mean also he's Nick Fury's dad, I guess. Oh, yeah. Because isn't that how the new... Oh, that could work, though. That would kill. No, but if he's from...
Starting point is 00:35:57 Oh, from like... From World War II. Yeah, okay, he's from the past. If he's World War II Nick Fury... Okay, yeah. And then he's regular Nick Fury's dad. Yeah. That would work.
Starting point is 00:36:04 Okay, let's do it. Let's make that happen. Yeah. Plus, if you want to knock off Samuel L. Jackson. That's true. I mean, you don't, but I mean, if you wanted to, if his contract's up. Yeah, if he's got... If he's 20 movie contractors up at this point.
Starting point is 00:36:17 I think it is up. I think he's done them all. Well, if he's tired of it, then you just go, I'm off doing S.H.I.E.L.D. missions, but my dad's here. My dad's here. Hey, dad. So... Dad, can you do some's here. My dad's here. Hey, dad. Dad, can you do some shield stuff for me? It's taking a week off. So in the Ultimate Universe, it's Nick Fury.
Starting point is 00:36:34 Sorry, it's Sam Jackson. Sam Jackson, Nick Fury. And in the regular universe, there was white Nick Fury, and then he got trapped on the moon, shamed to the moon. And they replaced him with his son son who looks exactly like Sam Jackson. Well, I mean, you know, he's a shaved head African-American man. Yeah, that's it. Because I guess they were like...
Starting point is 00:36:50 Does he have an eye patch as well? I think so. Yeah. But maybe he's got two functioning eyes. I can't actually remember. He just does it because one of them has like a... Heads up display or something. He can track cats or whatever with it.
Starting point is 00:37:00 Yeah, he can track cats with it. Yeah. Good. So I guess they went... That's my... Look, I think I've mentioned it before, but that's my favourite comic book switcheroo. Like, in the sense of when a movie character...
Starting point is 00:37:11 Like, a movie comic book character becomes very popular at the movies, they try to make it more like the... Yeah. They try to make the comic book version more like the movie version. With Spider-Man. With Spider-Man or, like, Batman.
Starting point is 00:37:23 Steel, yeah. They made the costume, like, darker and what what have you but my favorite is that the cop the the movie version of nick fury's black so how do we make the comic book version black can we do it like we made the punisher black briefly we give him temporary plastic surgery and he's black for a while and then just the african-american just washes out at some point. Can we do that? Better not. All right. Let's make him an illegitimate son of White Neck Fury.
Starting point is 00:37:49 Love it. Yeah. The Deadpool animated TV series has been cancelled. Donald Glover was on board. Before I even knew it existed. I know. We talked about it last week, but there was a script that Donald Glover put online, but it turns out that it wasn't real, so I didn't read it.
Starting point is 00:38:03 But he put it up. But he put it up. Yeah. Who wrote it? Did he write it? He wrote it. Yeah., so I didn't read it. But he put it up. But he put it up, yeah. Who wrote it? Did he write it? He wrote it, yeah. I assume it was just like a... As a goof? Like a goof.
Starting point is 00:38:10 An April Fool. Yeah. So I didn't read that. And he's so good at everything, including April Fools. How does he do it all? Did you see the recent episode of Atlanta? I haven't seen any of them yet. Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:22 There's an episode where they go to like, because his... You're not going to spoil anything for me, are you, Mason? Not really. No, there's just, there's an episode where, because his on-again, off-again girlfriend
Starting point is 00:38:30 is, has German background. Okay. Vanessa. And so they go to a weird German festival and he's very uncomfortable. And it's very uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:38:39 But I just recall the one time I went to Adelaide, there's a weird German town there as well. Great. I can't remember what it's called, but you just go to time I went to Adelaide, there's a weird German town there as well. Great. I can't remember what it's called, but you just go to the middle of rural Adelaide
Starting point is 00:38:49 and there's a German town. Really? Yeah. Have you ever been to an Oktoberfest? Yes. Have you been to a The Oktoberfest? Yes. In Berlin?
Starting point is 00:38:56 Oh, no. Then no. I've been to the one in the Melbourne showgrounds or whatever. Okay, that's not the same. No, that's not true. You're right. Because I travel, obviously. I've definitely been to one.
Starting point is 00:39:04 It's so much beer though it's like there's only so much beer you can drink and I'm disagree you don't drink beer it's me number one party boy I've decided because I'm wearing a lot of our we've got a sponsor Mr. Coyish yes but but I've been wearing him a lot during comedy festival yeah and now I'm just referring to myself unironically as number one party boy, Nick Mason. Great. So it seems like it's going very well. Thank you. I look tired, but that's the,
Starting point is 00:39:28 that's the, I feel that's the most consistent characteristic of a number one party boy. Sure. Really tired eyes. Definitely. We did both though, watch the animatic kind of short. That's right.
Starting point is 00:39:40 Yeah. Get a feel for it. They took the, um, some dialogue from Ryan Reynolds from the Deadpool movie and kind of pasted it over the top. I'm not sure if he would have been the final voice, but he probably would have done it. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:39:50 But it looked good. Yeah, that's true. It looked really good. Some of it was unfinished, but the Deadpool overall design looked really good. Yeah, right. Quite fluid and fun. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:04 Like a kind of caricature-y. Definitely. Much like the Max. Much like the Max, yes. Marvel Max. No, no, no, no. We've discussed this. Yeah, yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:40:12 Marvel Max. Image is the Max. No, no, incorrect. How dare you. Maybe that was an effort to get it made by leaking it, like they did with the Deadpool movie. Yeah, right. Yeah, that's very possible.
Starting point is 00:40:23 Well, it's worked once. Apparently, this is a quote from somebody, I can't remember who, but there was a Taylor Swift episode that was hilarious and it was the last straw, and that's why it was cancelled. Our show wasn't too black. It wasn't really that black at all,
Starting point is 00:40:36 but we were definitely going to give Rick and Morty a run for their money, and I think we would have Proud of the Gang. Wait, there was a Taylor Swift episode? Yeah, because it's meta. Was Taylor Swift going to be in it? it yeah i don't know man she was was deadpool gonna be taylor swift's bodyguard probably we're trying to kill taylor i don't know all right i don't know any of these things this raises more questions than an answer if i'm honest good good i love questions next segment speculating we wouldn't we wouldn't have a show if there wasn't speculating. That's true.
Starting point is 00:41:05 It's true. This is also true. Swift pool. Very good. She puts the outfit on. She's Swift pool. That's great. It's really good stuff.
Starting point is 00:41:13 Tay pool. Tay pool. Tadpole. Tadpole. These are all really good ideas. Thank you. Ready Player One writer, co-writer of the film. Zach Penn.
Starting point is 00:41:22 Zach Penn, yes. Will be adapting ROM Space Knights. Wow. Are you excited that it's coming to Marvel? Is it coming to Marvel? No, it's going to Hasbro and Paramount, who made Transformers. Yeah, I was just going to say.
Starting point is 00:41:33 Because for anybody who doesn't know, Marvel had ROM for a while. Yeah. I've only read one ROM comic, and it was for Andrew Levitin's comic book show in Chivorne. Uh-huh. Serious issues.
Starting point is 00:41:45 I was like, what's it called? Comic something? It's not called Comic Anything. No. It's comic book show in Chavon. Uh-huh. Serious issues. I was like, what's it called? Comic something? It's not called Comic Anything. No. It's a great show, especially if you love comics. But I read a ROM Space Knight origin, and it was terrible. Is it the same origin?
Starting point is 00:41:56 There's like sludgy pink monsters. Yeah, he's like a blue guy, and he gets covered in armor and that's it. Yeah, so in the Marvel version, I don't know what it's like in the new one, but they get their brains taken out of their bodies and put in cyborg space knight suits. No, he's just covered in goo and then he's trapped in it. Oh, okay. Sounds unpleasant.
Starting point is 00:42:20 I'd rather have my brain taken out, to be honest. Yeah, it wasn't very interesting. It wasn't terrible, but as a character i don't care about you know why am i what a weird what a weird option for people i guess maybe it's guardians of the galaxy yeah everyone wants space-based cosmic adventures we all do yeah it's true it's the world we live in nice fx is the veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret, the other a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX is the veil starring Elizabeth Moss is now streaming on Disney Plus.
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Starting point is 00:43:20 that they're not alone. Help CAMH build a future where no one is left behind. So, who will you rise for? Register today at sunrisechallenge.ca. That's sunrisechallenge.ca. What a bloody thing to talk about now. Ready Player One is a movie we saw two weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:43:41 I don't really remember it that well. Great. But you've done so many videos. Oh yeah. I did a, I did a really soul crushing Easter egg video. Uh, which would have been brief and painless. It was so the opposite of those things you said. I started it like last Tuesday and I just barely finished it on Sunday to get it done.
Starting point is 00:44:00 It was insane. You would say, would you say this is your finest work in your opus? No, it's not. done. It was insane. Would you say this is your finest work in your opus? No, it's not by any stretch. Would you say that this movie was so good that it inspired you to just really knuckle down and just produce some great work?
Starting point is 00:44:11 Some art? No. If you want to watch me break down over the period of 13 to 14 minutes, it's probably a great watch. I'll leave it below. Our sadistic listeners, if you want to go check that out. People are loving Ready Player One, some of them. Some people are hating Ready Player One.
Starting point is 00:44:26 That's true. If I could break down who is hating it and who's loving it. Yeah. People who have read the book are hating it. And people who haven't read the book are loving it. And we're somewhere in the middle. I think so. It's got a 53 million US box office opening, which is pretty good. It'll be about 100 million worldwide, which is less than Pacific Rim 2, which is good because yep it'll be about 100 million worldwide which is less than pacific
Starting point is 00:44:45 rim 2 which is good because i enjoyed that more uh and it's got 175 million dollar budget uh so it'll make its money back it seems but it's spielberg's biggest opening since munich no since indie 4 oh the bfg did not do well the one about Tom Hanks and his saving newspapers Didn't do as well either Because that was just about newspapers It wasn't about robots Exactly, nobody cares about newspapers Shut up Tom Hanks for once in your life America's dad
Starting point is 00:45:14 Print is dead But dressing up as an avatar of J. Jonah Jameson That's in Demanding pictures of Spider-Man You know what I think is very in though It's when you tell us what you think the story is. Oh, he's done it again. All right, hang on.
Starting point is 00:45:28 Okay. I'm a successful person. It's very true. Is that your morning mantra? Correct. Get out of bed, two hands raised. I'm a successful person. Okay.
Starting point is 00:45:40 All right. Here we go. So it's the future. Yep. It's 2045. 2045. Yep. The world's rotten. It's real bad. It's real bad. Will Wheaton's the president Yep 2045 2045 Yep The world's rotten
Starting point is 00:45:45 It's real bad Will Wheaton's the president It seems so Hasn't done anything to fix that I saw a poster for him He's definitely mentioned in it Or referenced in it So he is the president
Starting point is 00:45:53 Maybe fix America Will Wheaton Can you shit together Will Wheaton Will Wheaton This world's a bloody It's a bloody bin fire, mate What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:46:01 People are living in caravans Stacked on top of each other That you can only access By sliding up or down a pole where's some where's your bloody sustainable living options president will we didn't i've decided i'm gonna i'm gonna rag on will wait in this entire episode no problem because this world's rotten why how long has he been in for though we don't know if he's well into an eight-year term then he should have fixed some stuff fix some shit i think in the book he's been re-elected ah
Starting point is 00:46:25 in a landslide Will Wheaton so he's had at least four years hasn't he Will Wheaton yeah why'd people re-elect him why would you re-elect him
Starting point is 00:46:34 if he hasn't done anything four years if he's still living in slums it's happened before why would what's his face what's his name Wade something
Starting point is 00:46:40 Wade Watts why would Wade Watts vote again for Will Wheaton? Because he's 17 and he didn't. If he's still living in a shack. He didn't vote for him. Okay then.
Starting point is 00:46:49 Good. Yeah. What I'm saying is, you know why? Because Will Wheaton's gotten involved in some sort of shady, fake news disinformation campaign. That's probably true. You grub, Will Wheaton. You absolute grub.
Starting point is 00:47:03 Anyway, America's ruined yeah and the only escape for most people who live in bloody in bloody bloody container stacks of slums is vr and a treadmill vr and a treadmill but some people don't even have a treadmill no like wade watts uh bloody will wheaton voter yeah they both have a literally of double w names. Yes. Anyway, he seems to have sprung for like a... Like he's a hardcore gamer. Not so much sprung as maybe just assembled. He's cobbled together. He's got like an omnidirectional treadmill to work.
Starting point is 00:47:34 But some people don't, it seems. Some people just run along the streets. Yep. Some people do it in the back of a van, chained to the roof. Some people just probably just crash into joggers and stuff. Why didn't that happen? Yeah. I'm very confused about how this world works and we'll get to it so anyway everybody's everybody's bloody they're they're they're everybody's pastime yep it's not going outside it's going into the oasis which is a vr paradise of sorts so you can you can be anyone
Starting point is 00:48:00 you can play any video game you can bang no rival reason really yeah that's you can just hang out or you can you can dress up as your favorite character you can be over no characters from 2040 no just characters there aren't any no maybe they are though maybe some of the genetic like the like possible like his avatar yeah like generic anime man so like i think in the future all the popular all the pop culture is like, I'm an ogre, but I'm also, I've got robot bits and holes in me. That was pretty good. Yeah, it was good.
Starting point is 00:48:29 I liked it. Some of the designs were alright. Some of the designs were good. Anyway, where were we? Okay. So there's a guy who's like Steve Jobs, except he's sadder or happier. I don't know. He's nerdier.
Starting point is 00:48:43 Yep, exactly. So he created this. He loves pop culture. He loves popier. Yep, exactly. So he created this. He loves pop culture. Loves pop culture. Everybody reveres him as the... It's called the Oasis. Everybody reveres him as the king of culture. Yep.
Starting point is 00:48:51 And then he dies. But... But he's left his sizable fortune and the ownership of the company that created Oasis. To the scrappy upstart who cracks his code. Who knows the most about pop culture. Easter egg hunt. Correct. There's a car race.
Starting point is 00:49:08 You run through a movie or whatever. You do a castle. It's a castle attack. Great stuff. Yeah, they're all great Easter egg hunts that make a lot of sense. And by definition, definitely Easter egg hunts. They make next to no sense. They're really...
Starting point is 00:49:23 Well, apparently they're different than the book. I've heard that, yeah. An Easter egg hunt isn't a car race that's a car race yeah the first one it's in the trailer it's a car race yeah it's just a car race yeah but look we'll get into it deeper but some of these clues they're so you like the in the premise of this movie is that he died four five years ago and nobody's made any progress on this competition yet. How? Reddit would have figured it out immediately. But I'm saying the reverse.
Starting point is 00:49:51 I'm saying that potentially they could have gone a thousand years without figuring some of this stuff out. No, no way. And we'll get into it because it's spoilers. Okay, right. But yeah, I just feel like five years is a long time. Do you think maybe... I mean, look, maybe the first one,
Starting point is 00:50:06 I think somebody could have figured it out by random chance. It's amazing that nobody figured that out. Yeah. Anyway, we'll talk about it. But yeah, some of the other ones, yeah, I can understand why. So in one corner, we've got the scrappy Wade Watts who wants to solve it. So for whatever reason, I mean, sure, this guy could have given his squillions of dollars
Starting point is 00:50:25 to charity. No, give just random chance. To one guy who could be a real prick. Yeah, just a corporation could just get it. Yes. And just microtransaction.
Starting point is 00:50:35 That's probably the most likely thing that would happen. But do you think he set that up so it couldn't have happened? No. I feel like there were some safeguards in place.
Starting point is 00:50:42 Oh, I see. Which we could talk about. But they still would have got around it. Anyway, so he's up against IOI, who's a big old corporation who want to own the Oasis so they can microtransact everything. Ben Mendo with his big old false teeth. Yep.
Starting point is 00:50:55 Very distracting. Is that what he has? Yeah, because he's got the fake teeth over his real teeth. Real teeth. Yeah, yeah. Does Mendo have like... I think it was just like a character thing. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:51:04 It's his character choice. Yeah. Okay. Does Mendo have like... I think it was just like a character thing. Oh, okay. It's his character choice. Yeah. Okay. And his avatar is Superman or Clark Kent? It's like... It's weird. Yeah. It's like...
Starting point is 00:51:13 No, I think it's more like corporate Gears of War. Okay, sure. Like, you know how everybody... Every man in the Gears of War universe is like this giant bulk fridge man. Yeah. I think it's like... They're all Ray Liotta. He's corporate.
Starting point is 00:51:25 He's the Paul Reiser character from Aliens, but in Gears of War. Yeah, you're absolutely right. So did you find any of the characters engaging? Like were you like, I thought that they clearly like each other, but I don't give a shit about any of these people. Yeah, right. Okay. I quite liked the sidekick.
Starting point is 00:51:44 The orc? Yes. Yeah, I didn't mind him either. Nice. The orc? Yes. Yeah, I didn't mind him either. Nice. No spoilers, Mason. Wink. Look, I didn't mind the hideously ugly love interest. Oh, how did they get together?
Starting point is 00:51:56 I mean, what a beast. I can see why she didn't want to meet in the real world. I know. Yuck. How did he even see past that? Well, I mean, because he's a sensitive, he's a sensitive sort, isn't he? And he doesn't care about looks.
Starting point is 00:52:07 He cares about character. Yeah. And what you know about Buckaroo Banzai. Correct. All those things. Yeah. So, yeah, but I think one of them does die in the book and I don't know which one.
Starting point is 00:52:19 Okay. And maybe this movie could probably have used some of that. Right. Okay. But I did get the sense that they were in it together and they were working together. But again, who cares? Who cares about any of these people? Why are you better than the other guy who's in a caravan?
Starting point is 00:52:34 You know what? Here's the thing. And I think about, and it's a function of the design of the movie. Oh, we're doing non-spoilers and spoilers. Yeah. I think what I, what I think with all the characters we sort of i felt a sort of a a camaraderie developing with like me and these characters and then they would just drop like a they would just drop anchor on them just a really awkward like pop culture reference yeah
Starting point is 00:52:59 they would just drill it in and i'm like i hate these characters now yeah and then i had to build up my trust again yeah that happened multiple times and i think by the end i think i think towards the end those references dropped off and i'm like okay i'm on board with these characters but they really kind of they really draw us a moment but that's also the book and also a little but a lot of people love those yeah i'm sure that i'm sure this movie is divisive insofar as I'm sure a lot of people are like, well, I hate this movie, I hate this movie. But then this reference has dropped. Now I love it again.
Starting point is 00:53:30 Yeah. See, the references I thought I would hate. Yes. And it was kind of fun keeping your eye out for the different things. And I didn't find it too distracting. But those moments when the plot screeches to a halt and someone's like, my favorite video game is GoldenEye 64. Your favourite video game is 1997's GoldenEye.
Starting point is 00:53:49 Is it? A game that was created 50 years before you were born? That's your favourite, isn't it? Yeah. That's interesting. Yeah. But that one-upsmanship? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:01 Horrible. Yuck. The worst. The worst. But everything else was kind of a pleasant background surprise and they didn't like even they didn't even a lot of the stuff wasn't drilled home as hard as i thought it would be like yeah his the the wade's avatar what's his the possible possible possible it's probably a one in there exactly Exactly. His ride of choice is the DeLorean from Back to the Future.
Starting point is 00:54:25 Is there only one? That's interesting, isn't it? It seems to be like, because the guy who created it is like, there's no rules. But there are rules. There's really ridiculous rules. Like one of them has the Millennium Falcon mentioned. But you can't just make the Millennium Falcon. If somebody makes the Iron Giant, does that mean somebody else can't make the Iron Giant?
Starting point is 00:54:44 You'll never know. If you've got the Akira bike, there's a billion people in there. There'd be six billion people in there. Minimal. Yeah, yeah. Nobody else has the Akira bike. It's interesting because you'd have to go... If everybody could have the same things, eventually what would happen is everybody would have the same...
Starting point is 00:55:04 Well, actually, not everybody would because the same there'd be well actually not everybody would because it's people expressing their individuality but there would be millions of people who are like i'm gonna get statistically the best character yeah so there'd be literally millions of people who all look exactly the same and have the exact stats and weapons yeah and have the same vehicle like everybody would have if it's the Akira bike, there'd be a hundred million people with the Akira bike. Yeah. Because it's the most maneuverable and it's the... It's red.
Starting point is 00:55:29 It's red, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. But I don't know. Where were we going with this? Oh yeah, so I was going to say, so his ride is the back... His ride is the DeLorean from Back to the Future.
Starting point is 00:55:40 Correct. And it can do stuff that... And it's got the Knight Rider thing on the front it's got the sweepy knight oh i saw it you saw it yeah but but they didn't they didn't really hammer home guys this is a lot like it's it fades into the background a little bit yeah and it can even do like it can hover it can hover it can do the hover i don't think it can fly no because if it could fly you could have won that race for sure yeah i guess that's the limits of the race maybe you can only do maybe you can fly in other instances just not then
Starting point is 00:56:10 but i mean and i can't go back through time no um but some things can we'll talk about that later uh but yeah like i thought it was kind of fun like in a race it could do some of the stuff that the delorean could do but they weren't like you have to know everything about Back to the Future the trilogy and the comic books in order to win this race it's a vehicle that does its job and it's got a couple of tricks up its sleeve as presumably all of them do
Starting point is 00:56:35 you know what I mean? Absolutely did you feel that people knew impossibly too many things about stuff like how could you have seen all of the pop culture and remembered all of the pop culture and also memorized the life of times of the guy who invented the oasis and your favorite movie is buckaroo banzai because you've seen it a hundred
Starting point is 00:56:55 times and you've played through golden eye up on top of every other game yeah right how is that possible that's a good question but was he i i don't feel like they were all necessarily was there a moment where he didn't know something where somebody mentioned a thing and he went i've never heard of fucking i don't know i can't think of a reference right because there's too many references bombarded with too many references and i've never heard of dr quinn medicine woman there you go there's a reference for you it might have been didn't they I've never been bombarded with too many references. I've never heard of Dr. Quinn Medicine Woman. There you go. There's a reference for you.
Starting point is 00:57:27 I feel it might have been. Didn't they have to work together at some point? Yeah, but it was more kind of unlocking a clue, a weird, obscure, vague hint. I didn't feel like his knowledge was... Moment to moment, throughout the movie, it didn't feel like we were always being beaten over the head with how much he knew. No, definitely not.
Starting point is 00:57:44 He didn't seem as smug as someone who's like that normally is no because heart of gold he'll marry an ago that's right he doesn't care that's right it's not about what's outside look it didn't it didn't upset me and how bad that was like it no it could have been so much worse yeah and i think maybe that was deliberate that was definitely deliberate on the part of spielberg to be like let's let's lighten up on that well in the book as well he's apparently very overweight okay and then throughout because it takes place over the course of months or years i haven't read it but he then works out in the oasis on the treadmill or whatever and he gets ripped okay right yeah they should put that in yeah that's right good to get ripped yeah definitely i mean the love interest never gets any less ugly no it's disappointing should we say what her condition is when they meet it's not really
Starting point is 00:58:34 it's in the trailer and it's in the thing is that it's it's in the in the trailer and it's in the poster yeah but unless you look really hard you can't see it's like a shadow she is a very attractive very petite yep woman great hair with great hair who has like the faintest of like port wine stains over one eye yes you blink and you miss it yeah yeah and she's all her covers up with her hair what a beast there was a moment because when they revealed her because she's like you don't really want to meet me in real life. You probably won't like what you see or whatever. And then when she was revealed, you turned to me and went, what a monster. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:12 But it's okay. He doesn't even care. He doesn't even care, mate. Yeah. He doesn't even care. He's a good dude. They're of roughly equal attractiveness, I think. I think so.
Starting point is 00:59:20 She's better looking. Sure. Yeah. Well, actually, I saw someone point this out on Twitter. It might have been Mark Millar. Wade Watts looks like young Spielberg. Oh, interesting. And he said apparently it's a thing with some directors.
Starting point is 00:59:33 A lot of time when they cast young, they get people subconsciously maybe that look like them. Yeah. Spielberg knows so much about pop culture, sort of. Yeah. Does he? I noticed, I felt they really reduced the tj miller role to only a he's only avatar you never see him in real life that's because i think it's because
Starting point is 00:59:53 of all the stuff that's been yeah yeah for sure yeah it's interesting they didn't revoice him no yeah that's true they could have very easily yeah but yeah we never see we we see pretty much everybody else in real life we never see him in real life that's interesting because you'd think there would be the the very obvious put where he's the badass assassin character but then you pull back and he is the cheetos and whatever that's exactly what i was waiting for yeah i really like that design though with the holes in the chest same it's a good design great design's a great design, yeah. And he's got, you know what, and it's an original design. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:26 I mean, it's not the most original design. But it's not just, hey, I'm the Arkham Knight. Yeah, exactly. Look at me, you know? Yeah, which we could say. And he had like, he seemed to have cool weapons and, you know.
Starting point is 01:00:37 He could store stuff in his chest. Yep. I did like the idea. It was full of gold. It was full of gold. I did like the idea that when you die, no matter how far you progress, you're square one. And there doesn't seem to be any kind of...
Starting point is 01:00:49 You can't buy your way into the Oasis. You have to collect. Yes. You can't pay to win, which some people were trying to... Which their video games are now. Exactly. And that's IOI's plan is to win ownership of the Oasis so they can monetize it and cover people's view screens with ads and what have you.
Starting point is 01:01:09 What fun. It was fun. There's a few things that I didn't understand about the Oasis. These are all, these are mostly not, no, these are non-spoilers. Okay, here we go. First of all, moving around in there, I'm not exactly sure how it works if you're not on a treadmill or running in real life.
Starting point is 01:01:25 Yes. Because some people seem to be able to run around even though they're in a very small space and not on anything. Yes. Nobody ran into a wall, even though we saw people running down the street with VR on their heads. They did. Some people fell over their couch. Yeah, sure. And there's a bit where one of the characters is in the VR and she's looking to the side and Wade Watts is like,
Starting point is 01:01:45 what are you looking at? So you can also see outside of the thing that's on your head. So it's not that immersive ultimately. Apparently not. Look, I'm willing to, I'm willing to suspend disbelief and say there's settings. You can change controller settings.
Starting point is 01:01:58 If you want to move with thumbsticks, you can move with thumbsticks. If you want to just walk up and down, it'll walk. Yeah, sure. I'm even willing to go, okay, you can put the visor on and there's little sun shields that pop out.
Starting point is 01:02:12 Okay. If you want to see the outside world, you can, but if you don't want to, you can close them up. Fair point, Mason. The other thing is there's moments where characters are ambushed or in trouble in the Oasis and they're going to die. And if you die, you lose all your DeLoreans whatever sure and it's bad and then they'll have to they'll either run for a portal or run for the exit but then there's other moments where people if they want to leave people just
Starting point is 01:02:33 take off their goggles yes and they just fucking leave yeah i don't understand why what what's the rule there it doesn't if you're in combat you can't escape maybe is that what it is like it might again it might be if you're in a race you can't fly with your delorean yeah but outside you can it might be if you are locked into a gaming situation you can't be about to die and go like you can't like i get i guess that again if we want to justify this situation i think if you wanted to say okay rules are if you put yourself into a combat situation yeah you can't just put yourself into a situation where you're going to die and then take the visor off because that's cheating yeah right yeah fair enough but if you're in a
Starting point is 01:03:15 city if you're just hanging out in the real world you can just if you're just saying then can somebody come up and just knife you i guess and you're just standing there like you're just in a club in the oasis and oh they can come up and cut your throat i guess but i mean that's that's kind of mutually assured destruction like if everybody can do it maybe nobody does it yeah because they live in fear that's the other thing yes this is not the internet it's way less racist than you think it would be yeah right there's a lot of stuff on the internet that's just not there like they say it's no rules but there are clearly etiquettes and norms and things in place to stop people from just just kkk walking around because you can be anybody and it's entirely anonymous nobody's it's very difficult to track anybody literally nobody uses their real name nobody is apparently yeah
Starting point is 01:04:02 which is said at one point but surely some people you'd think so yeah there's billions of people on this surely at some point you go hey my name's joe or some people also wouldn't care yeah right just their avatar is just them maybe if you're in the competition you you don't want to give out your real name that's very possible and the other thing is again there's no rules you can do anything But yet there's a moment where one of the characters is moving bombs and there's weight to it. Like they're struggling with it. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 01:04:30 Yeah. But you're not physically lifting anything in real life. Yeah, right. So how does that work? Force feedback suit. But they're not, the person who's doing it is in a cheapo kind of cell. Force feedback suit. I don't believe it, Mason. All right, fine. Theyo kind of cell force feedback suit i don't believe it mason all
Starting point is 01:04:46 right they weren't in a force feedback suit wow no am i wrong i'm probably wrong look we're deaf some people are definitely going to say we're wrong in this situation so may as well own it a lot of this is probably in the book as well yeah that it's explained isn't it but it just looks like that person but i don't care in a jumpsuit and i guess the reason why i'm nitpicking a bunch of this stuff is because I wasn't thoroughly in it. So I spent a lot of time going, what is this? But also I feel like there's a better movie in this. I think this could have been an absolute shit show.
Starting point is 01:05:16 Yeah, for sure. And it's not. Which is amazing. Look, it's a credit to this movie that it is as good as it is. But I think with a tighter edit and some of these grinding the movie to a halt references yeah i think it could have been an excellent fun movie definitely like a like an et well i mean i it's been a long time since i've seen et but i think it could have been like this is a classic yeah you can show your kids some people say it that way yeah it's spielberg's back it's a return well well i certainly didn't
Starting point is 01:05:44 say it that way i did not say it that way either i, right. Like, Spielberg's back. It's a return to film. Well, I certainly didn't see it that way. I did not see it that way either. I also didn't really think there was that much difference aside from some shininess between the real world and the Oasis. Just a grey world. Everything's grey and CGI. Like, the stack of caravans doesn't look that different to, you know, walking on a bridge in the Oasis.
Starting point is 01:06:03 I mean, it's cleaner,'s cleaner obviously it's just the same kind of gray i guess so but i mean there was some uh like i think there was some establishing shots are like close in where he's like walking through rubble and that sort of yeah sure yeah i think work and i think i just mean you could have at least switched the color palette up i mean yeah i guess that's that's true there's room for more contrast yeah but i think there's all some of the there's some real world action sequences that I do think have a lot more weight to them that I think work. But all right,
Starting point is 01:06:31 good. We'll talk about it later. We will. Would you want to talk spoilers now? Okay. Let me think. What else? Anything else?
Starting point is 01:06:40 I'm so on the fence with this. All right. Well, let's okay. Look, I'm going to say best movie ever, just because it's not the worst movie ever. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:45 I guess I'm the same, but I couldn't really, I haven't recommended this to anybody. No, I certainly wouldn't recommend it. Yeah. Absolutely not. I think it's one of those things where you either have to see it,
Starting point is 01:06:57 like you're, you know, like you're like us or you're fans of this stuff or you're really into it. And, you know, but I don't really, I don't know, man, it's i don't know man it's and there's it's funny in moments there's some decent jokes like but i like i like how the ceo just has his
Starting point is 01:07:12 password just on a post-it next to his yeah that was fun yeah exactly yeah kind of it kind of established that character in a lot of ways that he's not really the guy that he's pretending to be yeah yeah and it was quite good. There's an extended horror sequence, which was good and then not good. Yeah, but that was surprising. Is that in the book? I don't know. No, it's not.
Starting point is 01:07:32 A lot of this is not. A lot of this is brand new. Good. Sure. Got it. All right, let's talk spoilers. All right, full spoilers. Full spoilers.
Starting point is 01:07:41 There's time codes at the bottom if you don't want to be ruined on this movie, but I don't know. I feel weird about giving this best movie ever. Yeah, me too. Because it's definitely not. But it's not terrible. It's really not.
Starting point is 01:07:52 But I can also see how you could hate this so much. Yeah. Yeah. But I also can see how I could hate it a lot more. Yeah. Okay. Let's talk about the most egregious pop culture knowledge dropping. Sure.
Starting point is 01:08:07 I don't remember any specifically. Do you remember specifically? Well, I think the Buckaroo Banzai situation where it's like, oh my God, do you think I should wear this outfit? It's the suit from Buckaroo Banzai, which again is a Peter Weller film from the 80s. Jeff Goldblum's in it yeah
Starting point is 01:08:25 watch the title sequence watch the closing title sequence it's very good incredible yeah but it's not good though is it
Starting point is 01:08:32 by all standards it's kind of fun okay but I mean you know I don't know oh okay then so that's when
Starting point is 01:08:40 he's going on a date in the virtual world with the hideous beast of a woman so why is that a big deal like in a place like that to going on a date in the virtual world. With the hideous beast of a woman. So why is that a big deal, like in a place like that, to go on a date? Because like they, well, I guess they kind of say it could be anybody. It could be a girl with a minor, minor birthmark. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 01:08:55 Over a beautiful face. Yes. Can you imagine being tricked into that? Yuck-o. What were the other ones though? I can't really remember. Like his other clothing options? No, that I remember.
Starting point is 01:09:05 I mean like when they're rattling off things that he knows. Oh, well his favorite game is GoldenEye 64. I don't think that was him. I think it was one of his mates. Okay, great. Terrific. The one that really that I slunk down in my seat for was during the date when they're like, oh my God, maybe in order to uncover this clue,
Starting point is 01:09:27 we have to dance. Let's have a dance competition. And then they put on Stayin' Alive by the Bee Gees. That hurt my heart. But that's a reference. It is a reference. But it's like, it's the shallowest reference of all time, I feel. It's the basic bitch of.
Starting point is 01:09:40 Imagine if you met somebody and they're like, yeah, I'm a bit of a disco aficionado. I just love disco. I love the era of disco. of disco i love everything about disco anyway here's my favorite disco song it's staying alive by the bgs have you ever heard it and you'd be like yeah i it's potentially one of the most well-known songs of that era name three other disco songs exactly that's right like what i took from that there's got to be thousands of hundreds and thousands of songs from that era that are just straight up floor fillers but they're just people have forgotten about and you would think that if somebody's an aficionado of that kind of stuff they would want something that isn't or just if they want to
Starting point is 01:10:22 impress somebody who has all the knowledge of all the pop culture, he'd go, here's a little, here's a little buddy, limited release white label 45 from back in that era that not a lot of people have heard of, but people love it or whatever. Also, can anyone just change the music in there? Yeah, I don't know. Or do you have to have knowledge of- It's weird that nobody did. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:42 Maybe it's like a jukebox situation. You can use some of your gold coins okay that you can just erase you can just what she probably did is she probably put in like a hundred gold coins and then selected staying alive by the bgs a hundred times and then they leave and everybody else has to listen to it until some angry dude pulls the plug out of the jukebox i look the only excuse i can think for that is they seem to have a lot of it is just surface pop culture from across the decades. Yes. So that is the disco song.
Starting point is 01:11:09 You know what I mean? Like GoldenEye is the Nintendo 64 first person shooter. But that, like that, that is what I hate about this because it's such a surface. It's somebody being so smug that they know some really basic thing like it's just on nintendo 64 you're a big fan of that you ever play golden eye everybody played golden eye what's up what's up and i you know i don't i'm not deep into any of these particular books or comic books or or video games that they you have no love for nostalgia exactly since 2003 exactly oh what a good year wasn't it what a wonderful year why lord above people this
Starting point is 01:11:53 really basic knowledge you have of of these broad strokes of the past there's i think there's less of this yeah like i said in the book it's way more of people like well i know this yeah but like what i love about aficionados of anything like i'll listen to like a like a pbs like a public radio show all right settle down that's right i contribute to the arts but like i'll listen to like the metal show yeah i don't particularly care for metal i've got zero interest in metal but the the guy who hosts the metal show he loves metal and he's like this is these are the best songs and this is i'm telling you why they're the best songs yeah and this and here's the history of this band and whatever and they love it and here's some deep
Starting point is 01:12:34 cuts and here's some b-sides or whatever and here's the latest stuff and here's the old stuff he's not like hey have you heard of metallica yes i heard of them yes god yeah i did like Metallica? Yes. I heard them on... Yes. God. Yeah. Like... Have you heard Saint Anger? Yeah, I've heard Saint Anger. It's the one where they will pretend they were a jam band. I remember Saint Anger.
Starting point is 01:12:53 Yeah, I remember, yeah. Doong, doong, doong, doong. Anyway, it doesn't matter. Just playing lots of cowboys. It doesn't matter. But you get what I'm saying. I know what you're saying, yeah. Like...
Starting point is 01:13:00 Yeah. Just... It's just everything... Like, just the movie itself was fine, but like the concept of it was everything I hate about a particular slice of nerd pop culture, which is learn some stuff and then like learn, wrote learn some knowledge and then beat people over the head with it
Starting point is 01:13:20 as a form of currency. Absolutely. You know, and a weapon. It's a form of currency and a weapon. And a weapon not that's not appreciating what what came before no it's just listing some things and just yeah i gotta this is kind of that's not really related i got a lot of people before they saw the movie saying because i was like it's fine i didn't really enjoy it that much but whatever people like well you, if you read the book, then you would have enjoyed it more. That's irrelevant.
Starting point is 01:13:48 Yes, it is. It's completely irrelevant whether or not I've read the book or not. Yeah, right. I mean, I can see how it can enhance it, the experience maybe. But the movie needs to stand on its own. You don't need to read the book, which also isn't that similar to what it turns out. Well, I was going to say, I think maybe the reading the book has not enhanced people's enjoyment of this.
Starting point is 01:14:09 I think a lot of people who are huge fans of the books are not happy with the changes that have been made to this. Yeah. And what are you going to do about it, Mason? Nothing. I don't care. I don't care. I saw my DeLorean. I listened to Staying Alive.
Starting point is 01:14:21 I'm happy. Yeah. How did he get the DeLorean? You know what else I hate about it? I hate people being smug about pop culture because there's always somebody who knows more. Absolutely there is. So why bother?
Starting point is 01:14:32 Why make it a competition? Just stop gamifying everything. Just enjoy, like we always say, just enjoy what you like. Just enjoy what you like, whatever level you want to like it at. I get a lot of people, a lot of comments that are like, well, actually... Good start. Terrific start.
Starting point is 01:14:47 It's a lot of... I think I should do a hate mail on it. I should find those ones in particular. My favorite ones are also when they're wrong. Yeah, sure. Just so smart, but so wrong. Yeah. So there was one sequence,
Starting point is 01:15:00 it's an extended sequence where they go into the hotel from The Shining. Yes, The Overlook. It's dead on. It really is. It's's great i don't know how they did it it's it must have been cgi right yeah they couldn't they wouldn't have rebuilt no how could they have done it yeah unless it still exists i don't well was it a real place it might have been a real place i don't know these are things if we were real pop culture aficionados, we'd know. Somebody smugly let us know on Twitter. If you could. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:27 But I like that a lot to the point where it went off book or off script for the movie where it was just, and now you're fighting zombies and now you're in a dance hall and you've got to jump from floating platform to floating platform. Exactly. It's interesting. Just crack. Because it went exactly it went from here's a scene from a movie that is incredibly tense yeah and you and movies of this
Starting point is 01:15:50 era build tension yep and it's and it's psychological and whatever and then just became everything's green and there's monsters and waves and you're gonna you're gonna drown and yeah you're gonna fight zombies or whatever no good. But up to that point, I enjoyed it a lot. The other thing... Were Kubrick and Spielberg friends? I don't know. They probably rubbed shoulders or elbows. If we wrote learn more of this knowledge
Starting point is 01:16:15 about these directors, we'd know, wouldn't we? We certainly would. What I thought was hilarious, and I was not expecting it, was that I was expecting they would do this is they didn't put Jack Nicholson in it. Like you see the exit the door. And the only reason I think you didn't,
Starting point is 01:16:30 they didn't do it is because Jack Nicholson got paid $50 million in 1989 to play the Joker. So imagine how much money he would have squeezed out of this just to put his likeness in it. For sure. Yeah. So I think that's, that's why,
Starting point is 01:16:42 I mean, you only kind of saw the monsters from The Shining in it, but I was like, they're not going to show Nicholson here. No, it could have gone either way, though. Yeah. But no, that was a fun sequence to a point. And then you do a dance, you go to the dance hall, and then you get a key.
Starting point is 01:16:58 Oh, yeah. Oh, I remember this. Kubrick gave AI, the movie AI, to Spielberg. They did, too. That's right. So I guess they are friends well he died though didn't he did he die before he died
Starting point is 01:17:08 they I guess he gave he gave him the rights in 95 okay and then I think the movie didn't kick off to like 99
Starting point is 01:17:17 yeah right something like that that's kind of a bit underrated that film I think some good stuff in the movie I think one of the reasons Kubrick struggled
Starting point is 01:17:24 with that movie is that he was because he likes to shoot over like a year or two years off yeah right we did now he's dead and how do you get a robot boy to stay the same age that's very true you can't mason and you know that more than anybody that's true your collection of robot boys yes okay so the very want somebody play stickball with i understand that you want to stick in a hoop down the street that's right the very first easter egg hunt yes is winning a race yes i am of the thousands of people that do that race every day or every minute every yeah like it's the race itself goes for like four minutes i feel like maybe it's like a monthly thing. Yeah, okay, right, right.
Starting point is 01:18:05 But nobody's ever just gone backwards. You would think. There's no way that somebody even hasn't done that by accident. You would think that somebody would have set themselves at the back of the pack and then reversed up just to get a good, like to record it or something, to get a good look at it. You're right. And the other thing is nobody ever makes it to the end
Starting point is 01:18:23 except for one person who goes backwards. And then at the end, you've got to get past King Kong. You don't have to race. Just go slow and then take a punt at getting past King Kong. Yeah, right. That's it. It's really, that's all there is to it. But isn't it, I would assume it was programmed into the structure of the game
Starting point is 01:18:39 that you cannot get past King Kong, like ever. That's what I'm saying, though. Yes. But why would you race to get to that point? Oh, for sure. Okay, right. Just hang though. Yes. But why would you race to get to that point? Oh, for sure. Okay, right. Just hang back. Right.
Starting point is 01:18:47 Maybe the track disappears behind you or whatever, but it doesn't seem to. Uh-huh. Yeah. So you're saying let everybody else go through. Let everyone else kill themselves. Uh-huh. And then you go. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:56 Okay. Let the A-Team van go off a cliff or whatever. Yeah. Let the General Lee go off to its racist doom. Okay. Here's a question. Yes. There's a bit where Ben Mendo puts on his,
Starting point is 01:19:11 because you can get suits that give feeling in your entire body. Force food back suits. Including your balls. In your ball sack. Why would he put on the balls plate? Because it's removed. Yeah. Ben Mendelsohn gets kicked in the balls in the Oasis,
Starting point is 01:19:24 and it hurts him a lot, and then he comes out into the real world, and he takes off just the balls plate. Yeah. Don't wear the balls plate. You've got to get kicked in the balls. That's true. Like, come on. Yeah. Well, maybe it only functions if everything's all there in one go, including the balls plate.
Starting point is 01:19:36 But he's the CEO of some crap thing or whatever. He could get a specialised version. Yes, that's what I'm saying. That doesn't have a balls plate. But maybe he wants it for weird Oasis sex. That's true. So he's like, no, I want more feeling in the balls plates. Balls plate up to 11.
Starting point is 01:19:52 But sir, it only goes up to, I said 11! Respect my big teeth! To skip ahead to the end, Ben Mendelsohn makes his way to Wade Watts' yes to shoot wade watts in the head yes and when he gets there the people there figure out or they know that he's
Starting point is 01:20:12 the one that caused the explosion that killed a bunch of people in that area yes and they just let him through yes they don't just tear him to pieces i thought that's what was going to happen but they just let he's just got a gun and there's 200 people standing in a circle around him and they just leave him. And he's got his back to them. I was going to say they could just hit him over the head with a trash can or whatever. Crazy.
Starting point is 01:20:34 Yeah. The funniest bit, and we both laughed, for me, was when Wade Watts' house explodes and then afterwards you see him walking away down the street and his face is all sooted up like a little orphan boy. Exactly. He looks like a little chimney sweep who has to go back to the orphanage. Yeah. They had to make it real.
Starting point is 01:20:58 They did. Boy, was it. Yeah. Oh, man. Anyway, I liked Wade. I liked his ugly girlfriend. And I liked the sidekick. As revealed, she is a lady and drives a truck.
Starting point is 01:21:10 Twist. Twist. And the other two were fine. Yeah. Apparently, they're quite racist stereotypes in the book. Okay. One of them reminded me a lot of Short Round. Not because of the Asian thing.
Starting point is 01:21:20 I mean, there was that. But he had the short round sass. Like, so what if I'm a little kid? I can do whatever. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Yeah. Didn't mind that kid.
Starting point is 01:21:29 It was all right. They were all fine. Yeah. So there's a bit where Ben Mendo is in virtual reality. Yeah. And they pretend. Like virtual insanity. Very good.
Starting point is 01:21:40 And they pretend that he's not in virtual reality to trick him. Uh-huh. And he's looking at a very shiny Wade Watts. And he hasn't figured out that he's in virtual reality. Was he that shiny? Yeah, he had a bit of a sheen on him. I didn't notice. And then they do the big reveal of like, look, it's really... But maybe the idea is that Mendo isn't that comfortable in that...
Starting point is 01:22:01 No. So he can't really tell. He can't see out the sides. Can't see out the sides. Can't see out the sides. They put the blast shields down. I just thought it was a bit kind of like, you didn't figure this out, CEO of the company.
Starting point is 01:22:10 I also feel like we have to factor in... He would have known that his balls were more sensitive. That's true. He should have known. Yeah, my balls are up to 11 right now. It's weird that my balls are like this in real life. But also, we kind of have to... This is kind of a...
Starting point is 01:22:23 This is a movie for kids also. Yeah, a lot of it yeah it's an all ages movie it's okay that yeah and for kids at heart and for kids at heart and for people who can't read facial cues that's true that's right many many groups i think i've got one more thing that i particularly want to talk about okay ready but uh at the end they decide the best thing to do is to uh to run the oasis and turn it off on Tuesdays and Thursdays. Because spend time with your ugly girlfriend. Why don't you?
Starting point is 01:22:53 I don't like this weird executive decision of Tuesdays and Thursdays. Me neither. It's also a poor executive decision. What if your job is on the Oasis and it requires you to be there on Tuesdays and Thursdays? That's a very good point. You are in a lot of... They have ruined, what they've done there is they've saved humanity technically, but they've also ruined the economy for a lot of people.
Starting point is 01:23:10 Yes. And aside from that, you don't think they're going to, some ass is going to create the Tuesday and Thursday oasis? Yeah, for sure. Exactly. Just fill that gap? Yeah. It just seems like a really stupid decision.
Starting point is 01:23:20 I think in the book, apparently he just walks away forever, which is weird because that's the point. It's the point of the book is kind of like the real world is better than fighting in the shining or whatever. Yeah. Right. But I didn't really get that sense from this. It was kind of like, everything's fine.
Starting point is 01:23:35 I've got a girlfriend. It did seem like that. That's true. Like there's no, it was, it's a very passive way to improve the world yeah which is just we're gonna stop people using this for a couple of days a week maybe they'll fix the world we're not going to though no i'm rich i mean i understand the sentiment yeah but it wouldn't work no people like and
Starting point is 01:23:59 those people would just become murderers on those days i also would resent that is because it's an enforced yeah right enforcing like if you'd want to make that decision where i'm only going to do would just become murderers on those days. I also would resent that because it's an enforced thing. Like if you'd want to make that decision where I'm only going to do this twice a week or whatever, but to have somebody go, no, you don't have the foresight or the self-control, the Oasis. And what would happen is there would be mass,
Starting point is 01:24:18 Oasis customer service would start receiving thousands upon thousands, millions of emails a day going, I want to work Tuesdays and I want to be on there Tuesdays and Thursdays. Why won't you let me do Tuesdays and Thursdays? The outside world sucks. And then they'd be like, well, if you pay a premium fee, you can go Tuesdays and Thursdays.
Starting point is 01:24:32 Then they're back. What about a sequel where he's the villain? Wade Watts is the rich villain. And they kill him? Yeah. Also, James Halliday downloaded his mind, I assume. Was that that? It was a bit vague.
Starting point is 01:24:42 And he was hanging out with that little orphan boy. It was himself. I know. He was having sex It was a bit vague and he was hanging out with that little orphan boy. It was himself. I know. He was having sex with a small version of himself. Oh, no. It's a family film. Let's assume they were
Starting point is 01:24:50 playing stickball. Sure. Actually, I thought he... That was a good performance. I was going to ask about that. What did you think? I thought he was good. Who is that?
Starting point is 01:24:57 Do we know who that is? That's the guy who was the... He's in Bridge of Spies. He's the BFG. Oh, yeah, right, right. He's the new... The farmer from Babe. Okay.
Starting point is 01:25:04 Did he feel like any real person you've ever met? No. Yeah. But I believed him enough to think that he really loved Space Invaders. How did the Oasis, who programmed everything in the Oasis? He did. Everything. All the worlds.
Starting point is 01:25:20 But you can also build things in the Oasis. Yeah, right? But there's only one Iron Giant. But he wrote the rules. Yeah, right? But there's only one Iron Giant. But he wrote the rules. Yeah, I guess. Yeah. What are the rules?
Starting point is 01:25:32 But did Simon Pegg write the rules? He may have written the rules, but also Simon Pegg was a robot. That's true. Did you realize that Simon Pegg was a robot? I didn't know. I knew. The whole time? I knew all along.
Starting point is 01:25:41 Did you? I thought it might have been just his voice. Right, okay. But yeah, he seemed a little too human for... Okay. Do you think he'd have to swap in and out though? There'd be so many bots
Starting point is 01:25:50 in there as well. That's what I'm saying. Like, he couldn't literally spend all his time in the Oasis just in case Wade Watts was going to pop by
Starting point is 01:25:57 and solve and ask him for specific VR recordings from decades ago, you know? Sure. Otherwise he'd be very tired. Yeah. And he's not a number one party boy, so... No, you know? Sure. As long as he'd be very tired. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:06 And he's not a number one party boy, so... No, not anymore, at least. Yeah. Did you like old Simon Pegg and he got a bit teared up because he stole his wife or whatever? Yeah, I like Simon Pegg. He's good. Me too. I'm glad he, you know, I'm glad he was discovered and exists in the universe.
Starting point is 01:26:19 He's good. Yeah, absolutely. It's fine. Sure is. Like the appearance of Mechagodzilla. They didn't have to say, oh my God, it's Mechagod Yeah, absolutely. It's fine. Sure is. Like the appearance of Mechagodzilla. They didn't have to say, oh my God, it's Mechagodzilla though. And there's like, we didn't get beaten over the head by like the holy hand grenade. Like it was in there.
Starting point is 01:26:35 That's true. But I didn't hate it. No, I like that. See, that's the thing. Like a lot of these references, they didn't require that we knew that we'd seen Monty Python and the Holy Grail. It was just he had a weapon and they explained how it worked. It was a grenade. Or it's a mecha's cube.
Starting point is 01:26:51 Yeah, exactly. Should we talk time travel? What do you reckon? How do you think that works? It's just you're forced to go backwards and you just can't stop it. Yeah, that's probably true. There's no actual time travel. And then just take your helmet off.
Starting point is 01:27:01 Yeah. Take your fucking helmet off. Take it off, mate. What were you thinking? What was he thinking? Yeah. Did you like at the end where he was telling... Also, people can't Twitch, apparently.
Starting point is 01:27:09 You can't watch somebody else play the Oasis because at the end they were watching him beat the Atari game and they're like, we can see him. Yeah, right. So you can't... That's not a thing in the future? Certainly not.
Starting point is 01:27:20 You'd think there'd be a revenue stream there. There would absolutely be and we would be number one Oasis players. I like all those people falling through the ice. That was fun. Sure. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:28 Also, there's one. What do you mean? There's one Atari game. And six billion people line up to play this Atari game. To win the prize. To win the prize. Yes. Because even if Wade Watts knew what to do, what if he had to line up for a thousand years?
Starting point is 01:27:42 Yes. Exactly. It doesn't make any sense. It's a really good movie though. And everybody should buy it on Blu-ray and purchase it and tell their mums and dads to go and see it. Correct. Can I go back just the Overlook section? Sure.
Starting point is 01:27:55 Okay. That's one of the clues where I'm like, I don't think Reddit would have figured this out. I think it could have gone a thousand years before anybody went. Which was the overlook the overlook one was they had to find they had to find an avatar of simon pegg's wife in the overlook because holiday's biggest regret was that he didn't ask her out on a date or something yeah that he didn't they went on a date but he didn't make a move and then they became friends and then simon pegg started dating her i didn't understand i mean i can't read facial cues so i mean sure that's not that's more on you than anything else on me i guess they saw her in a picture they saw her in a picture i think i think billions of
Starting point is 01:28:35 people would have gotten stuck on that i i feel strongly that the difficulty level ramped up very significantly on that second one from getting past king k King Kong to finding a woman that you don't know. Yes. That one photo exists of. Yes. And one reference exists to ever in the universe. It was a good Photoshop though. Because often Photoshop's in movies.
Starting point is 01:28:57 They're like, this is my daughter. And it's like a young version of, it's just the worst photo in the world. That's true, yeah. God. You okay? You doing all right? I'm great great stuff just a bit of a bloody headache this whole thing do you want to see a sequel i probably would but i'm not if they never made one that would be oh you're not chomping at the bit i'm not chomping or champing at the bit for a sequel very good i think i think i've said everything oh that girl should have died when she fell out of the van. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:25 In the real world. Oh, yeah. Oh, the henchwoman. Yeah. Yeah. Just kicked onto the street. Yeah. Tumbled down the road.
Starting point is 01:29:38 Also, people know ninja and jitsu in the real world and also in Oasis and whatever. I'm okay with that. People learn things. But for people who don't know, like Wade Watts. Yes. Because he doesn't seem to have any ninja skills. you get programmed to like the matrix to have that i assume in the real world no in the yeah i think so it seems that way yeah i don't think he knew any real world skills good on him i liked his sooty face yeah me too is that where was sooty where was sooty and sweep i'm sure they were there where was gumby and Pokey? Where were they? Where are all the things from my childhood?
Starting point is 01:30:07 I've got some... Where was Pingu? Where was Pingu? Okay, carry on. I got some tweets here from people who saw it. This is from JamaicanMeCrazy. I must have eye-rolled at least 12 times during the movie. I like the girl who played Samantha, but the dude kind of sucked.
Starting point is 01:30:22 The shining part was great and the final battle was good. That was Planet Doom, by the way, from Voltron. I see. The whole thing felt like three hours. It was very long, though. Yeah. I did also like the appearance of Gundam. There was a Gundam in there.
Starting point is 01:30:33 Gundam style? Yeah. But there was no reference to the Gangnam style. I had a question about that. He had a Gundam power-up, but it lasted for four minutes? Yes. But you can also have the Iron Giant until you drop it into lava? Because I think the device he had was like a pickup.
Starting point is 01:30:48 Yeah, right. I don't know. Yeah, it's fine. It's fine. You're right. I'm not... These are just nitpicks. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 01:30:54 This is from Alexander. Just a Ready Player One. Enjoyed it a lot. The VFX looked great in 3D. The real world stuff was cheesy, though, especially the end. Yeah, I thought... Apparently, it's very good in 3D. I could see how this would work. Okay, sure. We uh to each other to each other we did we're next to
Starting point is 01:31:09 each other with actually david who listens to the show hi david yeah um actually i saw it in the when you're doing the q a that he was like i'm sorry that you we he made us sit so close to the screen it was fine i actually thought it helped except for the first bit when we were zooming through and i'm like oh god but no i actually thought it helped, except for the first bit when we were zooming through and I'm like, oh God. But no, I actually thought being close helped. Yeah, apparently 3D is very good though. It's from Andrew. I just saw Ready Player One.
Starting point is 01:31:33 I thought the beginning wasn't great, but it got better as it went along. In some respects, it only had passing resemblance to the book. I wish they adapted more of the book scenes into the screen. It's from CJ Vaults. Ready Player One had a lot of necessary and vital exposition in the beginning, followed by a great cast sequence that expertly sets up the film that was quite good the car
Starting point is 01:31:48 sequence uh everything after that kind of slows down though but overall best spielberg movie since catch me if you can but you hated the sequence the the the opening opening sequence where we where we fly through all the worlds you hated that yeah i did why'd you hate it so much just shut up good good answer correct i didn't mind it that was fine that's i did why'd you hate it so much just shut up good good answer correct it i didn't mind it that was fine that's fine do you feel it was too swoopy and unreal swoopy and yeah but it's in the oasis man i don't care just believe in the oasis it's what do you want imagine james in the oasis what a crank i'd be so racist yeah you'd be real but you can't be apparently yeah wow so much for the tolerant left, am I right?
Starting point is 01:32:26 Tell you what, Mason. From Ezra, Ready Player One was laughable. Spielberg didn't seem to understand how the Oasis works. A lot of game-breaking stuff. And it just served as a constant reminder that better films exist,
Starting point is 01:32:36 yet you're stuck with poorly written shite. Brutal. I would probably point out that the book has a game-breaking element, which is a guy who knows everything about everything. Nothing is a challenge to him because he knows everything. Yeah. But I see what he means about the way it was set up.
Starting point is 01:32:52 Also, they definitely stole that Scott Pilgrim extra life. Because it didn't feel like a reference. It just felt like a stolen plot point. No, I think that feels like a reference. I think people get the concept of an extra line. Is Simon Pegg in Scott Pilgrim? I don't think so. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:08 It's an Edgar Wright film. I think it's a coincidence. Okay, this is from Angel. Didn't enjoy Ready Player One because every challenge felt like it could have been solved on Reddit. Also not buying the first challenge
Starting point is 01:33:18 took five years to be solved. Me neither. Five years for a car race? Get out of town. I think not. Yeah. Somebody would fix... By the 10,000th race, people would be like, no one's even coming close.
Starting point is 01:33:31 Like, they would map out all the angles to go past King Kong. Correct. And they would map his eye line. They would do everything. Maybe it's because you can't twitch it. If you come into the Oasis and you work for IOI or whatever they're called, but you're brand new Oasis. Yes. And you work for IOI or whatever they're called. Uh-huh. But you're brand new every time. Yes. Where do they get the cars and suits and shit from?
Starting point is 01:33:50 Do they have an in-game currency, which they've built up from like an army of- Good question. That must be it. Maybe there's a bank. Yeah. Also, why do you have to switch VR units every time you die? No explanation. I'm sure there are.
Starting point is 01:34:02 Yeah. I should read the book. I won't. No. Okay. You know what it's time for now, Mason? Oh, what are we reading? What are. Yeah. I should read the book. I won't. Okay, you know what it's time for now, Mason? Oh, what are we reading? What are we going to read? Oh, yes. That's right.
Starting point is 01:34:11 I'm doing the thing. What are we reading today? Get a kick of something. I'm busy. I'm at the comedy festival. I bet you are, nerd. Should I do some recommendations? Please.
Starting point is 01:34:24 Our friends, actually, pretty much everybody on the planet broadcasting roster is doing a show of something. I've been busy. I'm at the Comedy Festival. I bet you are, nerd. Should I do some recommendations? Please. Our friends, actually, pretty much everybody on the Planet Broadcasting roster is doing a show. Correct. Do Go On are doing a show. Josh Earl's doing a show. I saw that. Yes. Had some great guests.
Starting point is 01:34:34 I enjoyed it a lot. Do Go On. I met some people. Here's a letter. This is from Brendan Doffing. Okay. It's ahead of time. B. Doff.
Starting point is 01:34:41 Yeah, exactly. B. Doff. He lives in Singapore. He visited Melbourne this weekend to see the first Do Go On show. Nice. Very, very good move. He would love to attend our live show, but his little sister is getting married then. Priorities, mate.
Starting point is 01:34:58 Come on. What are you doing? What are you doing? Object. He arrived to the Do Go On show a little late. Poor form. Was that me was that Nick Mason
Starting point is 01:35:06 popping up the bar yes it was it was you Mason it was me you didn't introduce yourself but you can no you can't I went to
Starting point is 01:35:12 there was a guy wearing a weekly planet shirt his name was John and I I approached him and got a photo for Instagram I'm like hey man
Starting point is 01:35:19 what's going on look at this that was fun you're the saddest person I've ever met I know but anyway i love it love it when people say yeah absolutely that'd be great anyway uh yeah see some live shows
Starting point is 01:35:30 um i've seen two in the think tanks right there's sketch i've seen that that's really good i'd recommend that and my friend tim hewitt i'll only recommend a few my friend tim hewitt has a show called huey's cooked adventures it's very good is he related to us no to huey ian hewitson yeah no tim hewitt is not related to ian hewitson no oh they are okay so his name is not hewitson no it's not that's a shame yeah go on uh let's say uh sam campbell has a very funny late night very surreal show it's really good sample no it's called the trough very good yeah it's good and our friends over chimp cop oh yeah have you seen that yeah it's really good
Starting point is 01:36:06 I've seen it twice oh really because they they did the opening night and then they reworked the whole show really so it's different now really
Starting point is 01:36:14 so check it out for the better or worse for the better for the worse you say that's very interesting oh no come on you're putting words in my mouth you're putting true words in my mouth
Starting point is 01:36:20 yeah come on mate I saw an advanced screening but just publicly yes of a quiet place with john krasinski his horror film oh yeah you have to be real quiet otherwise something will get you oh um what do you think it is monsters oh cool uh it's good nice you should i think people should see it i there's some horror elements that don't that i don't love i'll probably talk about
Starting point is 01:36:43 more next week because it's not out properly yet but the family stuff is a really good like the characters are really great and that's what makes it work yeah cool so it's a really good directorial debut
Starting point is 01:36:51 from one Jonathan Krasinski and I needed to ask you Mason did you read the latest issue of Doomsday Clock no I'm behind we'll get to it next week we can't do a Doomsday Clock are we up to four or five
Starting point is 01:37:01 date four it's got the pancakes on the cover it does have pancakes on the cover. It does have pancakes on the cover. Haven't read it yet. Do you want me to
Starting point is 01:37:06 tell you about it? No. I'll spoil everything you need to know. No, come on, don't though. Alright. Alright, give me a little summary.
Starting point is 01:37:10 What is it? You find out who the new Rorschach is. Oh, and how do you feel about it? It's a good reveal. I mean, it's... How do you feel about
Starting point is 01:37:16 the direction the story's going? Oh, I like this one better than the last one. Okay. How do you feel about the integration of DC characters and There's not a lot of
Starting point is 01:37:21 that in this, which I quite liked. Okay, good. Yeah, there's a little bit, but it's not. It's mostly Rorschach that in this which I quite liked okay good there's a little bit but it's not it's mostly Rorschach stuff
Starting point is 01:37:27 okay trying to think of any more any more comedy festival shows I can recommend I've seen a lot already I bet you have Nerd
Starting point is 01:37:36 no no Number One Party Boy okay thank you well Matt Stewart's doing a show he sure is doing a show Dry Ginger Mail
Starting point is 01:37:43 that's right Dave Warnock is doing a blind. Dry Ginger Mail. That's right. Dave Warnock is doing a blind date show. A blind date show is spectacular. It's really very good, which I'm going to go see. See Becky Lucas. She's great. See Zoe Coombs-Ma. Anyway, that's all good.
Starting point is 01:37:57 I'll see some to none of those. You know what? If you're in Melbourne or if you're coming to Melbourne, I think I say this every year, but take a punt. Take a night out. See a show with a person you know I want to see Will Anderson's show
Starting point is 01:38:08 as well because he talks about the time he got arrested oh yeah that's really good as well cool man yeah next segment Mason
Starting point is 01:38:15 letters the letters segment get ready is that what you're referring to yes I was referring to this we love you some letters
Starting point is 01:38:23 they're only a day away I know they're here right now we're going to do letters Yes, I was referring to this. I know they're here right now. We're going to do letters. Every time. Rude at the end. Every week we do letters where you can tweet the show. Hashtag Weekly Planet Pod on Twitter. We'll grab a few out of the Twitterverse.
Starting point is 01:38:40 And also weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com to Mason. That's me. And we will also read some of those. Yes. Do you want to kick it off or do you want me to kick it off? This is from a resident artist of the show, Fergal Quigley. Very good. He sent an email.
Starting point is 01:38:52 It says, it's titled, It's me, Fergal Quigley, and I have a podcast letter. It's not wrong. Here's the question, or questkin, as he puts it. Good. How much do you think your mental state when watching a movie affects your review of it? For example, he was not having a fun time around the time deadpool came out he went to the cinema to see it and he hated it also on a side note he can't enjoy a movie if the person with
Starting point is 01:39:15 me is not enjoying it makes him uncomfortable yeah me too yeah okay yeah i'd agree with that just like any movie do you like any movie i see or like oh no if it was something i'm really into then i don't care i guess maybe really i would feel the i feel the opposite like if i if i have seen a movie and i'm like this movie's great and i take someone to see it and they hate it i'm like oh no oh i made a mistake here what about i thought he meant as in you go to see a movie together yes and you and you've never you both haven't seen it and the person next to you hates it, and you love it. That, to me, it would depend on who has recommended the movie. Yes.
Starting point is 01:39:49 Because you feel a deep and personal shame. Exactly. If I'm like, let's go see... It's an Ocean 12 scenario, isn't it? Yeah, exactly. If I'm like, here, everybody, let's go to this, it's going to be great, and then it isn't. Great deal of shame. But I guess we're talking mental states.
Starting point is 01:40:01 Because with Ready Player One, I went in fully prepared to hate it. Well, I think for me, it's an expectation. There was a post before, I think I put out on Twitter, a photo of you or me and you, and you looked very grim. Yeah. But I mean, I put that on. You look tired, Mason. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:40:15 No, I know. But neither of us were particularly- What number party boy did I seem like? Probably like a three. Oh, jeez. Yeah. Jeez. Out of a thousand.
Starting point is 01:40:22 Oh, my rep. Out of a thousand. Oh, wow. That's not bad. No, that's bad. That's really bad. It's really bad. Oh, three. Okay. Right. Three of them. Okay rep. That was out of a thousand. Oh, wow. That's not bad. No, that's bad. That's really bad. Oh, okay. Right.
Starting point is 01:40:27 Three of them. Okay. Not number three out of a thousand. No, no, no. That's really bad. Yeah. But yeah. So like for me, it's an expectations issue and I wish I could manage my expectations
Starting point is 01:40:36 better. Yeah. Like I wish I could go into everything with ground level expectations, but oftentimes I just can't do it for some reason. I think it's only really possible if you don't know anything about it and you've never seen the trailers. Yes. I think that's the only way you can really do that.
Starting point is 01:40:53 I love that, though, when you go and see something and you're not really sure about what it is, and then it's amazing. I can't remember the last time that happened to me. It was probably... Because I know so much about pop culture. Yeah, it was probably the guy from The Office's new horror movie. that's quite good i did know a bit about that there was still some twists and turns along the way let me tell you that much it was a quiet place in the end oh
Starting point is 01:41:14 sometimes there were some very scary things happening wow yeah it's the very definition of a quiet place yes a funny if a movie's like a comedy and I'm not in the mood, that's just no. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I watched, there's one on Netflix with Adam Devine. Oh, it's the one. It's the workaholics guys. It's the diehard one. It's the diehard one.
Starting point is 01:41:34 What do you think of that? There's some good jokes in it, but it's not a great film. I feel like, from what I've seen of workaholics, like five or so episodes, I quite liked it. But this is, it's okay. Okay. Yeah. It's a shame. Adam Devine, funny man. You love him. I do love him. Will you marry him? Maybe I quite liked it, but this is, it's okay. Okay. Yeah. It's a shame. Adam Devine, funny man.
Starting point is 01:41:46 You love him. I do love him. Will you marry him? Maybe I will. Okay, good. Meso Devine. Or so you see his balls. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:41:54 A little preview for the wedding night. I get it. That's it. Wow. Got a tweet here from Nicholas though. Okay. Now that Disney owns Lucasfilm, how will they solve the upcoming problem with Indiana Jones 5 when it comes to the tradition of opening every indie film with a
Starting point is 01:42:06 Paramount logo transitioning into a mountain of sorts? Your thoughts on this? Do they have to transition from the Disney castle to a German castle? But it's in the 60s! And then it implies that Disney are Nazis. So that's fun.
Starting point is 01:42:22 Who does he find in the 60s? Communists? Yeah, well, they kind of did that. But I think they probably have to. It'll be a fourth Reich. It'll be like, well, I mean, you know. I think it should be like someone's trying to restart the Nazis. Exactly. I think that's what they should do.
Starting point is 01:42:36 Exactly. I mean, they may as well have been Nazis in the last one. There was no real difference between. That's true, yeah. I mean, they spoke another language, certainly. And Cate Blanchett had a bob haircut. And that was good. And she thought she wanted the knowledge. There was no real difference between... That's true, yeah. I mean, they spoke another language, certainly. Yeah. And Cate Blanchett had a bob haircut, and that was good. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:48 And she thought she wanted the knowledge, but it turned out it was a little too much knowledge. That's right. And then they went to another dimension, and then Indiana Jones was like... I know. It's aliens. I get it. You know, that's what he was like. He was like, oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:59 It wasn't aliens, though. It was interdimensional beings. Oh, I forgot, yeah. Do you think Spielberg can actually pull this off, though? Yes. Do you think it's going to be good? No. You've got to cut back on that CGI forest shit.
Starting point is 01:43:12 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you've got to play... Remember that truck chase from the first one? Yeah, yeah, yeah. When he's under the truck and he's climbing. You've got to play to Harrison Ford's strengths, which is being grumpy and not moving a lot. Yeah, not befuddled, which is what the last one was.
Starting point is 01:43:25 No good, yeah. I maintain that Indiana Jones 4 is fine until Shia LaBeouf and him go to the first mission, the Aztec ruins or whatever. Okay, well, what happens before that? I think up to that point, it's fine. There's a bit at the start where they've captured him and he's going through all the boxes.
Starting point is 01:43:42 Yeah, right, right, right. I think that's a solid action sequence. They go on the jet train and he beats up a Russian guy he's going through all the boxes. Yeah, right, right, right. I think that's a solid action sequence. They go on the jet train. Yep, uh-huh. And he beats up a Russian guy. Then there's the nuclear bomb. Fridge. Yeah, but there's that
Starting point is 01:43:51 and then he gets in the fridge. It's dumb. It's so dumb. Yeah, right, uh-huh. But there's a bit in Temple of Doom where he drops out of a plane in it. Exactly, yeah, yeah. It's kind of,
Starting point is 01:43:58 it's the rollercoaster ride. But they keep on piling on people for him to hang out with. Yeah. It's just, it's not, and there's Max, a double It's just, it's not. And there's Max, a double or triple agent, and it's no good. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:10 And he's a passenger as well. That's true, yeah. Yeah. So how do you make him more active, considering he's even older now? You do Force Awakens. Yeah. Get him to do that. Just some enthusiasm. Make him be the driving force.
Starting point is 01:44:23 No sidekick that's his son. When I did the movie fights, I proposed that they get adult short round. That would be great. And that would be awesome. Yeah. It's Daniel Dae Kim. Who's that? He's the guy from Lost.
Starting point is 01:44:36 Okay, good. Yeah, he would be good. Yeah, I said the guy from Stephen Young from The Walking Dead. But yeah, I think that would be a good way to do it. That'd be great. Yeah. I'm fired up now. I feel like... I would love it. Yeah, I think that would be a good way to do it. That'd be great. Yeah. I'm fired up now. I feel like...
Starting point is 01:44:47 I would love it. Yeah, I would love... They're not going to do it. No, exactly. They're not going to do it. They're not going to take a supporting character from the second worst Indiana Jones movie. There's a lot to like about that movie.
Starting point is 01:44:57 Not the racism. No, not that part of it. But there's some really good action sequences in that movie. Remember the mine cart? Yeah. Remember the bit where he's on the bridge? Yeah. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:45:06 What a great sequence. Both him and both Spielberg and Lucas were going through divorces at the time. That's why it's so mean. To each other? Yes. Wow. That's why it's, yeah. Also, it's a prequel.
Starting point is 01:45:17 Yeah. So there you go. And there's the bit where he's like, see you now, Lao Tzu, or whatever. And then he gets in the plane and it's got Lao Tzu shipping on the side. Yeah, that's right. And Dan Aykroyd's in it just prior to that
Starting point is 01:45:26 for some reason anyway Paramount logo do you reckon they'll do it no yeah well they've they got rid of them from Marvel
Starting point is 01:45:34 obviously they used to have them at the start of Marvel movies yeah yeah I legit think it'll be Disney castle yeah and obviously they can't do
Starting point is 01:45:39 Nazi castle it'll be like some sort of Bavarian castle oh love it as a Disney castle and then just the Nazi flags. It's unfurled as if by magic. That'd be so good. No,
Starting point is 01:45:50 they'll, yeah, but they could do it like that. I don't think people, it's not like the, uh, the 20th century Fox drums from Star Wars. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:58 I don't think it's that synonymous with it. No. That people would be that upset about it. Did you like the mountain, but it was a mole hill in the last one? Yeah, it was fun. Remember? Yeah, I remember it was fun. No. That people would be that upset about it. I agree. Did you like the mountain, but it was a mole hill in the last one? Yeah, it was fun. Remember? Yeah, I remember it was fun.
Starting point is 01:46:09 Pretty good. Good stuff. Got another question here from Aaron Kraken. Now that episode has a script and is beginning shooting, what do you think, sorry, it should say episode nine, what do you think the chances are of recasting Leia? Leia, sorry.
Starting point is 01:46:21 I, for one, prefer if they tell the story rather than change it because of an actor's death. So there was a story and it was, it's not even a rumor. Somebody just suggested it, that Meryl Streep should continue the role of Princess Leia or General Leia in episode nine to continue the legacy of the character and do it justice and give her a proper ending. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:46:40 I just think they should just leave it. Yeah, same. Yeah. Were Carrie Fisher and Meryl Streep friends? Apparently so, yes. Oh, well, okay. All right. ending yeah right uh-huh i just think they should just leave it yeah same yeah uh were carrie fisher and meryl streep friends apparently so yes oh well okay all right if it was just a rant if it was like well meryl streep's a great actor she should do this i would not be on board but if they were friends in real life yeah i'm okay with that yeah that would be that would be that would work i think it would be weird oh it'd be weird i just think they just shouldn't do it i just think there's
Starting point is 01:47:03 also it's set up in the book where the last jedi novelization that that when she was when she flew through space yes when she uh that really knocked her about and she wasn't doing well okay right so we could technically say she died off panel yeah off screen rather i think that's yeah i think that's a probably a better way to handle it but i don't know what do you? You could open on a funeral, I guess. Yeah, you could open on a funeral. You could open on, you could just have her explode. You could have her explode, yep. Just have a still frame.
Starting point is 01:47:31 You could just use a cardboard cutout. You're all practical, obviously. Oh, for sure, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you just have it torn in half by an explosion. You could have, she's put in the photon torpedo tube. Very good. And she's fired out of the Enterprise, you know. I forgot to, I just realized I forgot to put that reference in to Ready Player One.
Starting point is 01:47:49 The Spock funeral. Yeah. That one. Next year. Of all the, you get Yoda comes back. Yes, you could. So many things you could do, but no. I think it could.
Starting point is 01:48:01 Who could deliver that line? Who could deliver of all the Of all the princesses And generals I've ever met She was the most Human Oscar Isaac Ackbar but he's dead
Starting point is 01:48:13 He's dead He's dead Ackbar could have done it I was thinking about it If I was going to change Anything about The Last Jedi Yes I would have it
Starting point is 01:48:19 Ackbar and Holdo Do that manoeuvre Yes Just Yeah I just think I like And I know know akbar's a minor character but i've thought about it i really like that moment i like holdo but i think let's put akbar in it why not in there give him time to shine all right i think that's the show
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Starting point is 01:49:11 Look, I'm going to be doing a lot of partying between now and then, so we'll see. You're number three out of a thousand party boy or whatever. That's true. Maybe I'll be lying on the stage, just rocking back and forth with an ice pack on my head. See how we go. But anyway, thanks pack on my head. It's entirely possible. See how we go. Yeah.
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Starting point is 01:50:25 Yeah. I just saw Ready Player One, actually. International box office of approximately 181 million. So it's more than Pacific Rim 2. Sounds pretty good. Doing all right, yeah. That's why I keep going, sorry. That's all right.
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Starting point is 01:51:20 Yeah. Something else. Next week, something else. Maybe a topic. Let's do a topic. Yeah, nice. Yeah, we could do Spielberg movies. We could. Yeah. I have to re-watch some. cool yeah something else next week something else maybe a topic maybe a quiet place yeah nice yeah we could do
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