The Weekly Planet - 236 Solo: A Star Wars Story is...

Episode Date: May 27, 2018

For $20 off a suitcase, visit awaytravel.com/weeklyplanet and use promo code weeklyplanet during checkout.It’s Star Wars again! This week we talk Solo: A Star Wars Man. Is it good? Well that’s ver...y much up in the air. Plus we talk cancelling Transformers 6, Bond 25 news, Shazam, MIB casting news, casting for Spider-man Homecoming 2 and Black Panther 2, Episode 9 rumours, the Boba Fett movie, a Watchmen TV show update and more! Thanks for watching.Solo Easter Eggs: https://t.co/VBopnr1QM40:00 The start of the show6:01 Transformers 610:59 Danny Boyle directing Bond 2513:25 Shazam15:05 MIB casting17:10 Matt Groening new series18:49 Mogli trailer21:02 Spider-man Homecoming 2 casting26:47 Black Panther 2 villains29:21 Thrawn in Epsiode 933:18 Boba Fett movie34:52 Watching TV update41:44 Solo non spoiler review1:01:21 Solo spoiler review (till the end)1:26:41 What We Reading/What We Gonna Read1:31:08 Letters It’s Time For LettersBuy Solo: A Star Wars Story on Amazon: https://amzn.to/2MhaxowThe Weekly Planet YouTube Channel: https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHFind out T-Shirts here: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:55 This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. This episode of the Weekly Planet is brought to you by away travel a brand new sponsor but before we talk about them later in the show mason much later let's talk about another sponsor we have okay called mr coy it's my son trying to get in should we let him in i'm scared look we live in terror here there's always day there's always violet knocks at the door have you noticed there's never a happy knock. No.
Starting point is 00:01:26 I give you a little happy knock when I arrive. You give me a happy knock, I know. But basically, Mr. Coyier are a fantastic shirt company, Mason. Button-up shirts. Button-up shirts that we're both big fans of. We actually had a lunch with a couple of the founders the other week. Delightful people. It's a strain company.
Starting point is 00:01:42 It's only been running a year. But they basically, you talk about it, Mason. You're better at things. It's only been running a year, but they basically, you can tell you talk about a Mason. You're better. They do. They do button up shirts. Yep. They're slim fitting, but they're not tight.
Starting point is 00:01:50 If you, if you like, if you're a man who likes a crazy pattern or a lady, you want a crazy pattern, they've got heaps or a lady pattern and they're fantastic. They're, they're high quality. They're great.
Starting point is 00:01:59 There's like legitimately I spotted them and I'm like, those are some great patterns. Yes. But if you also like a more subdued pattern, they do those as well. Some companies are like, okay, the loud stuff is cool. Yeah. And the subdued stuff is boring. But these guys, they've worked it out.
Starting point is 00:02:14 And you know why, though? Because two of the guys who operate it, of the three people, I think, they both prefer different things. One's the loud shirt guy. The other's the quieter shirt guy the other's the quieter shirt guy oh they're like us that's it they're exactly like us in a way it's like two guys who got together and decided that there's a better way to make shirts or podcasts correct uh what do we got here they've got great detailing they're better skimp on it they're ethically made you can check that out on their page it's all there it's all done humanely it's all you know
Starting point is 00:02:43 it's not it's not a sweatshop operation. And they only do limited numbers and a limited amount of designs, which they then cycle out. So often it's something that it's cool one month and you miss out and then you can never get it again, Mason. Or maybe they'll bring it back later. Or maybe they won't. Maybe they won't.
Starting point is 00:02:59 We just don't know. Yeah. Either way, it's going to end in tears. It certainly is. But you can actually check them out by visiting mrcoyer.com. It says here, because style loves flavor, slash there's just something about a good shirt. Oh, they've got two catchphrases. That's right.
Starting point is 00:03:13 We should work on some catchphrases. I agree. So, it's mrcoyer.com. And if you enter promo code PLANET, you get 25% off your order when you buy two or more shirts. And you should. Absolutely. Also, because it's an Australian company, it was initially just in Australian dollars or it would switch during your purchase.
Starting point is 00:03:28 If you're coming internationally, it's in US dollars now. That's right. So it's a little bit clearer. Also because Australian dollars, they seem like more dollars. But yeah. But actually they're less dollars. So wherever you're coming from, it'll make total sense to you. US store, open for business.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Yep. And the world over yeah I would love to see some people wearing those shirts absolutely they're primo and maybe we've got something very special coming up with them
Starting point is 00:03:51 maybe we do that's very true but that's a tale for another week is it? okay it is I thought it wasn't but then we did
Starting point is 00:04:01 a little theme tune yeah I thought it wasn't, but then you did the little theme tune. Red hot comic book movie news. Shooting up your butthole. The Weekly Planet. The Weekly Planet. Welcome back every... Okay, start that again. You don't have to tell me.
Starting point is 00:04:16 No, I will. Okay. Because Mason, I realized because it was recently your birthday and as is tradition... Oh, no. Instead of me getting you a gift, you get to intro the show. Is that the actual thing? That's a tradition, we've been doing it for three, four years. Wow, okay.
Starting point is 00:04:32 You excited? No. Happy birthday Mason. Here he goes in three, two, one. Hey everybody and welcome to another episode of the Weekly Planet where we talk about movies and tv shows and comic books and other things i'm your host nick mason and with me as always my co-host james also known as mr sunday movies you are listening to the start of the show yep you bloody nailed it thank you well done do
Starting point is 00:04:57 you want to do it again next week no okay cool some pleasant couple of things up top mason first of all happy birthday thank you happiest you. Happiest of birthdays. Thank you. Nobody use that information to steal my identity. Disagree. My birthday. Don't do it. Just, like I said, quickly up top, the Care Australia campaign is still going. If you'd like to win a bunch of cool prizes, including some movement watches,
Starting point is 00:05:18 we've got some other stuff up there that's going to be giving away some t-shirts. Prize packs. Prize packs and things like that. If you donate any amount of money and also, of course, even if you don't win, which which statistically you won't there's also going to be no no statistically you will you will definitely will uh we're also doing a there's going to be a q a video from us a bunch of bonus podcasts from another from a bunch of other podcasts on the planet broadcasting network it's very exciting well we're up to 12 grand that's exactly right yeah i love it also if you see another podcast pop up in your feed.
Starting point is 00:05:46 Delete it. In this feed this week. I thought you meant from like a competitive network. Oh, get rid of that. Yeah, yeah. Competiting's not a word. No, competiting. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:56 That sounds like competitive dog petting. Just furiously patting a dog. I've got one here. Caught that. You dumb dog. Yeah, but... She's not interested at all. No, she doesn't care.
Starting point is 00:06:08 But, yeah, we're going to be doing a little bit of intro for some of the other podcasts on Planet Broadcasting and playing a bit of that show or the whole show so people can check it out if you want. It's completely optional to listen to, but if we put up an episode there, it's because it's a good one and it's probably worth checking out. I agree.
Starting point is 00:06:24 If you need a midweek fix of a good old potto yeah what i mean what what else is that podcast feed doing during the week nothing i mean caravan of garbage sometimes caravan of garbage that's right and we also mentioned we're going to be dropping some we're going to do this where we're kind of ramping up more like promos for other podcasts as well we're going to be doing a bit of bit of that across all shows. The Weekly Planet gives back. Yeah, and takes. To podcasts that are funnier than us. That's right. That's how we do it.
Starting point is 00:06:49 We're really boosting the fortunes of those guys who are funnier and more talented than us. And it's about time. We live to give. Right, let's do the news. Mason, I don't know if you heard this, but there is a god. Because Magnum P.I.'s back? Where's his mustache?
Starting point is 00:07:03 That's a good point. You know what? I saw that promo. I'm on board. It looks fun, doesn't it? It looks fun. I like that guy as well. He's good in Suicide Squad.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Yeah. I mean, the promo that I saw gave away the entire first story arc. So if you want to watch that, if you want to see how those characters don't get along and then they do get along eventually yeah maybe don't watch the promo or don't listen to what i just said because i just explained that they don't get along then they do get along do you get a bit of a burn notice vibe from a little bit yeah yeah but i enjoyed bird i'm okay with burn notice as well uh-huh boy they wreck a lot of ferraris in this show as well you got it don't you yeah you gotta wreck ferraris to make ferraris that's that
Starting point is 00:07:41 is the expression isn't it yeah that's true that's what they say at the front of the Ferrari dealership. You walk in and you're like, wait, hang on, what? But no, the reason I say there is a God is because Paramount has removed Transformers 6 from its 2019 movie slate. Yes. It finally happened. Wow. Just as Michael Bay has stepped away from the franchise. He's driven it into the ground.
Starting point is 00:08:10 We could actually be getting some really creative projects from other directors and writers. Nah, burn it. Just get rid of it all. Is this a function of because the last one didn't do as much? Yes, I assume so, yeah. Even though, I mean, surely it made money. Yeah, it made money. It's a blockbuster.
Starting point is 00:08:23 Yeah, but I think comparatively to the billions of dollars that they are now. But it was so boring. Oh, yeah. Like more boring somehow. Less transforming than the other ones. Almost no transforming. Almost no transforming.
Starting point is 00:08:35 It's a madhouse in here today, Mason. My son's trying to get in. The dog's trying to get out. Do you think they're just trying to meet in the middle? I don't know. They're mortal enemies. Thank you, Claire. They're mortal enemies. So that's why they're always trying to get each other uh-huh yeah so i think this is good
Starting point is 00:08:51 news but it also could be bad news for transformers movies in general i guess it depends on how bumblebee goes yeah because there's now talk also that that's not going to be connected to the other ones right which i really hope it isn't it It doesn't need to be. Just new franchise. Yep. Make them look more like they normally do instead of crab-faced monsters. That would be great. Yeah. Have they confirmed that Bumblebee is going to be a VW in this?
Starting point is 00:09:15 Yes. The new one? Okay, good. Because for a long time, Volkswagen were like, we don't want them to be war toys or whatever. Yeah. But then I guess Volkswagen had that big scandal where they ruined the world. What did they do? They pretended that they'd invented a new diesel engine that didn't pollute.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Yeah. But it turned out... When was this? This was like last year or the year before. What they did... I had a kid. I missed a lot. Well, look, this is not interesting to anybody who's listening to this.
Starting point is 00:09:44 I'm listening. No, your face says you're not interested. No, I really am. Basically, Volkswagen Group, who owns like... And Volkswagen, obviously, they own Audi, they own Lamborghini, they own a whole bunch of... Do they own Ferrari? Maybe.
Starting point is 00:09:56 Got to spend Ferraris to make Ferraris. Got to spend Ferraris to make Ferraris. But anyway, what they did, what Volkswagen Group did, is they were like, we've invented this new engine that doesn't pollute as much as regular engines. So've saved the world right and then they put it in 11 million cars but then it turned out what they'd done is they'd like they'd like hack they'd like trick the firmware in all these cars so when they're being tested they don't produce as much pollution like they deliberately did it so on the road they produced like 30 times the amount of pollutants
Starting point is 00:10:24 they said they did. But when you put it up on blocks and you put the scientific equivalent of a brick on the accelerator and just run it, the car goes, well, I'm being tested, so I won't make as much. Oh, okay. So it's a smog. But yes, I think there's a documentary on Netflix about it. Wow, incredible. But basically, they did their part to destroy the world for a year.
Starting point is 00:10:43 So I think now they're no war toys. No fictional war robots. That's right. So I think maybe they're like, let's make a happy little robot into a VW bug. That'd be fun. Gee, I didn't know that. That's terrible.
Starting point is 00:10:53 Bit of PR, eh? That's shocking, man. Yeah, so maybe that's it. Just a flat out lie. Yeah. Amazing. Yeah. Here's something that's not a flat out lie, Mason.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Wait, do we have any more Transformers ideas? I don't know. When I was a kid, I just wanted Megatron transforming into a gun. Yep I was a kid, I just wanted like Megatron transforming into a gun. Yep. Do you think we're going to get Megatron
Starting point is 00:11:08 transforming into a gun? You better transform into a gun. No, I want him into a weird alien jet. Yeah, good point. Is that what we all want? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:13 I want him to be Galvatron, but then in the next movie, just to be Megatron again for no reason. Great. Cool. Nice. Is that what you want?
Starting point is 00:11:20 That's exactly what I want. I want the transforming cube effect. I want to bring that back. I would love that. Oh, that was so good. I want roughhousing. Roughhousing between all the Transformers just to show they're just human like us, you know?
Starting point is 00:11:31 I don't want them to have a base of operations. I want them to be no more than four of them at a time and they're just meeting in the desert. Just hanging out under piles of junk. What are they doing when they're just hanging out separately under piles of junk? I don't know. What are they doing? These are all questions. These are all questions. They are all questions.
Starting point is 00:11:47 I want just an enraged idiot of a man who's the hero for some reason. Anyway, what else are we talking about on the show? Danny Boyle has been confirmed for Bond 25. Yeah, right. He'll be directing that, which is coming out October 25th of next year. It's going to be written by John Hodge, who wrote Trainspotting and a bunch of his other stuff, but he didn't write Sunshine. Huh, your favourite movie.
Starting point is 00:12:09 My favourite movie. Is it still your favourite movie? Well, even if it's not my favourite movie, it's probably the best movie ever made. So either way, I'm pretty high on it, Mason. Yeah. It's a good movie though, isn't it? It's alright.
Starting point is 00:12:21 What do you think about that though, Daddy Boyle? Yeah, alright. I like it. Yeah, for right. I'm all for that. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Still no word on whether it's a standalone adventure or if this is going to be another. No, it is Craig's last one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:32 But then again, I wouldn't be surprised if, you know, it's really great because it's Danny Boyle and then Daniel Craig just does another one. Right. Yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if they went the route of it's the kickoff of a new two two movie or three movie arc yeah and they just they switch the bond in between because
Starting point is 00:12:52 they're like especially if this one is good they might just be like you know here's the because they've always have so much difficulty especially with daniel craig switching the bonds and people going well i don't like this new guy yeah until i've seen him You know, it's just bad press until he's in the movie. And then like, actually, we love this guy. So maybe they're like, okay, here's a plot you like. Yeah. And then we just switch the Bonds. And then people are like, well, I guess I'm on board.
Starting point is 00:13:15 We'll see how he does. Yeah, I think that could work. I think also Bond benefits from, there's a history of swapping him out. Yeah. It's unlike Han Solo. There's not going to be, or say, Indiana Jones. There's not going to be big uproar because he's always been switched. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:13:28 And same with like Doctor Who. But yeah. I know. I think this is great news. And I think, I thought the last one was shit. So I'm hoping this one is better. Right. It wasn't shit.
Starting point is 00:13:37 It was just, it was okay, I guess. Remember they drilled into his head or something? Yeah, I remember. But then nothing happened. Look, the definitive rankings of Daniel Craig James Bond movies is Cassenorial. Yep. Skyfall?
Starting point is 00:13:50 Naspecta. Okay. Skyfall, Quantum of Solace. In the order they came out. Oh, it's Quantum of Solace last. Okay. I think Quantum of Solace is okay. I watched it again and I'll talk about it.
Starting point is 00:13:59 The bottom three are all okay. It's fine. Also, I've been doing some soul searching recently and I've decided my favorite Bond is still Roger Moore. Because he's fun? Because he's fun, yeah. He is fun. And he's suave and he's charming.
Starting point is 00:14:08 He's suave and he's fun and he's so leathery. And he's wearing a... He's leathery and he's... He's like a saddlebag. He's a saddlebag man wearing a safari suit. That's why I like him. He's fun. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:18 Yeah. We got an official image of Shazam, the first one. Did you see it? We did. He's drinking some sort of slushy of some sort or slurpy. And we see the big lightning bolt. It's a glowing, yeah. I think it looks really great.
Starting point is 00:14:32 Me too. I like that costume design. The poster design is very Deadpool-esque, I feel. Oh, Mason. I hope they're going to flip the genre on its head. Maybe. Can you imagine? I think they might.
Starting point is 00:14:43 But it's like that. You know how there were some deadpool posters with well you know it's always just deadpool yeah white background logo yeah that's very much what they've done here and i think it's like this guy's like eating a banana yeah exactly yeah yeah so this one is just like we're selling you on we don't need the world i mean it could be potentially because i haven't written there's no plot yet yeah right but i mean potentially it's just like, we're selling you on this character. Isn't he fun and quirky and charming?
Starting point is 00:15:09 You like him. You remember Chuck? Sort of. He was sort of Jim from The Office, probably. I haven't seen him. But with karate kicks. I don't know. Okay.
Starting point is 00:15:16 I didn't... Is that what he... I don't know. I was a more better off Ted man myself. But what is Chuck? What is he... He had CIA secrets embedded in his brain. Like someone hit him in with a hammer?
Starting point is 00:15:26 What are we talking about? No, I think he downloaded them into his brain. Oh, my God. Yeah, that's right. Sounds like an episode of The Pretender. No, it doesn't. It does. It could not be any further than an episode of The Pretender.
Starting point is 00:15:37 I'm sure there's an episode of The Pretender where somebody downloaded all the secrets into their brains. No, he doesn't. The Pretender never downloaded anything. Not The Pretender. He would have come across a kid who'd accidentally done it. No, 100% disagree. And then he had to. 100% disagree. You don't know anything about The Pretender never downloaded anything. Not The Pretender. He would have come across a kid who'd accidentally done it. No, 100% disagree. And then he had to... 100% disagree.
Starting point is 00:15:48 You don't know anything about The Pretender. It's not... I know it's not Nowhere Man with Bruce Greenwood. I haven't seen it. Okay. All right. That was closer to what you're envisioning. Good.
Starting point is 00:16:00 Liam Neeson is apparently in talks, or maybe he's on board for... To do a movie set in Europe where he's a middle-aged man against- In a leather jacket. In a leather jacket. He's on a train or a bus or a plane. Or a party, a dinner party with his daughter. Yeah. He's got to shoot everyone.
Starting point is 00:16:19 He's ex-something. All his daughter's friends. All right. No, continue. I'm sorry continue what is he in talks to do maybe it's better than that
Starting point is 00:16:28 it is the boss for Men in Black I guess like the Zed role yeah alright which I like we've got a bit of a
Starting point is 00:16:33 thing like a description you ready yep the spin-off will see Thompson's character do you remember Tessa Thompson's
Starting point is 00:16:39 going to be in it yeah that's right M Hemsworth and Thompson together again okay I like this on a journey to prove herself by joining the London branch of the MIB, where she's partnered with former ace MIB agent H, Chris Hemsworth.
Starting point is 00:16:52 The pair then find themselves embroiled in a murder mystery that will see them traveling the globe. Oh, how intriguing. That sounds fun. That does seem fun. And it's not just the same kind of place and setting as the other three. And it ties into the idea that I put into my own head that Tessa Thompson is British.
Starting point is 00:17:07 Oh, it says she's no, but I think, I think Tessa Thompson, the actor is British. Like it's always, isn't she? No,
Starting point is 00:17:14 she's American. Is she? That's right. Twist. Yeah, that's right. She's joined unless she is British, but that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:17:21 She could be British. Imagine her with a British accent. Yeah, I can. That's all I can hear. That's right. Hello. Oh, I'm's the thing. She could be British. Imagine her with a British accent. Yeah, I can. That's all I can hear. That's right. Where is she from? Hello.
Starting point is 00:17:27 Oh, I'm Tessa Thompson. Yeah, nationality American. Yeah. Oh, my God. Mandela effect. That's what that is. We all thought she was British. Email in if you thought she was British.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Tweet at me if you thought. Hashtag, wait. Hashtag, did I think Tessa Thompson was British? Yes or no. Claire. Or maybe. or no? Claire. Or maybe? I called you Claire. Mason, that's just going to get-
Starting point is 00:17:48 Because you're exasperated with me. Your default is calling me by my wife's name. No, I was going to say, you need a hashtag that hasn't already been taken. That's going to get caught up in all the other hashtags. Isn't it though? All the previous ones, yeah. Yeah. All right, tweet at me at Wikipedia Brown if you think Tessa Thompson was British.
Starting point is 00:18:02 I thought she was British. Me too. Mandela Effect. August, apparently, to Netflix is going to bring us Matt Groening's Disenchanted. It's his next series, so obviously he's of the Simpsons and Futurama fame. It's got that kind of art
Starting point is 00:18:15 style. Here's the synopsis. Viewers will be whisked away to a crumbling medieval kingdom of Dreamland where they follow the misadventures of a high-drinking young princess, Bean, her feisty elf companion, Elfo, and her personal demon, Lucci. Along the way, the oddball trio will encounter ogre sprites, harpies, imps, trolls, walruses, and lots of human fools.
Starting point is 00:18:38 I get it. This could be okay. It could be okay. So this is more a... Is this an episodic? I think so. So it's more of an is this an episodic? I think so. So it's more of an adventure as opposed to a Futurama or Simpsons where it's just like, here's what they get up to this week.
Starting point is 00:18:50 Oh, I don't know. Okay. Yep. It seems more like a Game of Thrones kind of situation to me. Yeah, it could very well be. Or maybe it's like a Rick and Morty thing where it's all, like the storyline is moving forward. Yep. But they still feel very...
Starting point is 00:19:03 Which would you prefer? In terms of, I like standalone stuff. I don't mind it, but they still feel very... Which would you prefer? In terms of... I like standalone stuff. I don't mind it, but... I'd like to see... It'd be a mix. Yeah, I think I would like to see an overarching plot. Yes.
Starting point is 00:19:13 A quest, if you will. Yeah, but I don't necessarily think it needs to be... If you didn't see the last one, you're lost. Right, okay. It's a cartoon, Mason. I think it does need to be that. Okay, good. Mix it up a little.
Starting point is 00:19:21 Well, then it is. It's going to be that now. Thank you. So, I mean, a lot of the stuff that made, like, Simpsons great, Matt Groening wasn't necessarily involved in. I think he had a big hand in Futurama, though. Seems that way, doesn't he? Which is...
Starting point is 00:19:36 Maybe that was David Cohen. We don't know this guy. We don't know. We don't know. We don't know. But no, I'm definitely going to check this out. Are you going to check out, though, Mason? Yes.
Starting point is 00:19:46 The Mowgli film. It's a prequel to The Jungle Book. I don't want to. Or it's just The Jungle Book. If we're shy on content one week and we have to watch it, I guess I will. But I don't want to. The thing about this trailer is I didn't think- That's a bit of sizzle for everyone in upcoming weeks.
Starting point is 00:20:03 We'll do it, but I don't want to. If we do it, we don't want to, and we ran out of stuff to talk about. Which is probably going to happen then. Yeah, right. Look, it looks fine. It's not a terrible trailer. No.
Starting point is 00:20:13 It looks a bit grimmer and more realer than... Well, they were like, this is the darkest version. They open up with that, the little title card that says, this is the darkest version of this. You'll never see it. I don't even... But the John Wick films are quite good. I agree.
Starting point is 00:20:29 I watched the second one, actually, the other day. It's good. Do you think it's on par with the... They're basically the same film. They are more or less the same film. If it kept playing, you just wouldn't know. That's probably true. You'd be like, this is long.
Starting point is 00:20:43 But that's all you... Has he avenged his dog yet? What's happened? What's happened? Did they kill another of his dogs? I don't know. But no, look, I'm not super keen on this. I don't know why they made it.
Starting point is 00:20:55 But Andy Serkis is moving forward, is the director, sorry, and doing a lot of the mo-cap. I don't think the CGI is quite at the Jungle Book level, it seems. It's more kind of... Did you ever see that Tarzan reboot that they did? Yeah. No, I didn't see it, but I'm aware of it. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:21:08 Yeah, right. It's totally fine. I like Tarzan in... Is there a bit of Tarzan in London? And he's really... Oh, that's a good question. I don't remember. Because I love...
Starting point is 00:21:17 I think there is a little bit. Oh, no, there is. I love it when Tarzan's in London and he's wearing a suit and a hat. Yeah, yeah. And people are like, ooh, look who's... And then he goes... I love a bit of that he flings his pool to the bus
Starting point is 00:21:28 yeah exactly that's right yeah now there is I remember because there's a bit at the start where he
Starting point is 00:21:32 he shows how his hands are kind of changed because he's been running on them yeah right so he puts them on the ground
Starting point is 00:21:39 and his hands kind of like the bones kind of click into place and whatever yeah it's not terrible
Starting point is 00:21:44 the police are here for us yeah like the bones kind of click into place and whatever yeah it's not terrible oh no the police are here for us yeah this is a madhouse today this is why we don't record during the day that's true there's dogs and cats
Starting point is 00:21:53 and babies and fish yeah falling from the sky falling from the sky yeah what else we got here Michael Keaton is apparently going to return for
Starting point is 00:21:59 Spider-Man Homecoming 2 yes yes that's good I love it that is good do you think they're building towards a Sinister Six? Yes, I am.
Starting point is 00:22:06 I was just going to say that. I hope so. And the reason why also people think this is because Jake Gyllenhaal looks like he's going to play Mysterio, which I like a lot. Yep. Now, Mysterio is a fan of practical effects, isn't he? And smoke bombs and fish bowls, right? He loves all those things.
Starting point is 00:22:20 Those are those things he loves. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jake Gyllenhaal. He runs the gamut. I think he'll use whatever works. But he doesn't use actual magic, though, does he? No, he's not actually magic. I'm sure he has.
Starting point is 00:22:29 Yeah, right. But that's not his thing. I mean, at this point, he might use, like, Chitauri... Yeah. Stolen Chitauri tech or something like that. Yeah, because the stuff he can actually do doesn't make sense. No. But I kind of hope it's more on the level of, like, a Zemo,
Starting point is 00:22:44 where he's not the most powerful guy, but he's got tricks up his sleeve and he knows what he's doing. No, I want full-on weird holograms and shit. I want all that. We can have holograms. Can we? Yeah, but I mean, I like the idea of a guy who doesn't have... Because, I mean, with Mysterio, you've got a couple of options.
Starting point is 00:22:59 One is... It's like Mysterious. That's great. That's how they've done it. Exactly right, yeah? Yeah, that's good. Yeah right. But you can be like he's a joke character. He's a weird dude with a fishbowl on his head. And that's what
Starting point is 00:23:12 he was for a really long time. He was just this joke character. And then they sort of ramped him up to 11 where he's like, I'm gonna murder everybody kind of thing. Like he makes Wolverine murder all the X-Men. Which is what he did that one time. So I don't know. I'm hoping for kind of a middle ground or maybe like i i love the idea that when we haven't we've only really got it in spider-man homecoming in the marvel universe of
Starting point is 00:23:32 just career super villains yes they're not in it to end the world or whatever they're just like well i got a jet pack i may as well rob banks yeah i got a fishbowl i may as well do special effects yeah for sure to annoy people yeah and i like that with the vulture where he's just like well i've got all this tech i may as well just just steal some stuff yeah why wouldn't we i'm not worse than tony stark and he's not he's really not he's really not he just doesn't have as much backing or money no yeah but uh very good um also jake gillenhall very nearly took over from toby mcguire for spider-man 2's true, yeah. Because Tobey Maguire was... It's a combination of asking for more money and a back injury.
Starting point is 00:24:08 Right, okay. So... Hey, I've got this terrible back injury. I want more money. I can do less on this movie. Give me more money. I think he would have been probably a better Spider-Man than Tobey Maguire.
Starting point is 00:24:20 For sure. He's a bit more charismatic, while Tobey Maguire is like... But Jake Gyllenhaal does look more like a grown up so I think it would be weird yeah but now he does
Starting point is 00:24:29 yeah right but back then I mean he looked a bit younger I don't ever remember yeah but anyway Tobey Maguire is the equivalent of drawing a smiley face
Starting point is 00:24:35 on a balloon oh yeah like that's so super fun and will brighten up anyone's day I get it yeah that's right
Starting point is 00:24:41 yeah a grey balloon I would hope I'm hoping for the Sinister Six at some point. I think that would be great. Yep. And maybe also a completely disposable shocker every movie.
Starting point is 00:24:51 Oh my God, please. Wouldn't that be great if he was annihilated every episode, every movie? There's already been two? There's already been two, yeah. I don't know what happened to the second one. I guess he's in jail. Yeah, he's probably in jail for using too many shock punches. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:01 You can't keep doing that forever. No, that's true. Everybody knows that. Yeah. The other rumours are that Jessica Drew's goingessica drew's gonna show up oh spider woman but she's not she doesn't have spider-man's spider powers in the same way does she that's correct she wasn't bitten by a spider no yeah that's all i have to say it's all she i mean she yeah she doesn't even have like webs i don't think she has like psychic webs i think i don't know something i don't know
Starting point is 00:25:23 the specifics of it but also there's rumors that Daredevil is going to show up. I've heard that also. I would love it. I would. Here's the thing. I would love it also. It would have to be Charlie Cox though. Yeah, it would have to be.
Starting point is 00:25:34 They couldn't recast him. That would be incredible. Yeah, it really would be. Because that would be good because he'd have like. Sticks. He has sticks. But I guess you could make him... Maybe he'll have a series of mentors
Starting point is 00:25:49 throughout these movies. That'd be great, yeah. So instead of Tony, you have a guy who has no powers, but... I mean, he does have powers, but like, no, he's just a guy swinging around.
Starting point is 00:25:57 Yeah. Maybe Spider-Man could teach him how to swing around New York. That'd be fun. It's more him just... But it would also be weird if you... It's just running out of breath across rooftops. Yeah, it's in parkour across rooftops.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Yeah, I guess, but then when you go back to Daredevil, the series, you can't implement that swinging well into a TV show. No, that's true. So, I don't know. Look, I'm sceptical about that. I'm sceptical about the rumour, certainly. Yeah, but...
Starting point is 00:26:22 Again, because, I mean, maybe this is their first steps towards we have to integrate these TV shows or something. You know what? It could very well be. I'm skeptical about the rumor, certainly. Yeah, but... Again, because... I mean, maybe this is their first steps towards... We have to integrate these TV shows or something. Yeah. You know what? It could very well be. It could be that we're like... It could be that the general public is souring a bit on these Netflix shows.
Starting point is 00:26:36 I would say they definitely are. Absolutely, they are. I really want to go back in on The Punisher, though, and I think Luke Cage season two looks great. I think that'll be good, too. Yeah. If they can keep doing those musical, those musical guest stars, that would be good.
Starting point is 00:26:46 If it's not just him walking down a hallway and people just keep shooting bullets at him and he just bats them aside. Give me some other action sequences. Oh, I want exclusively bats. No, no, because that's all they did.
Starting point is 00:26:57 The best Luke Cage action sequence is in Jessica Jones. Yeah. Like that bar fight. That's very good. Yeah. More of that. Yeah. Yeah. I think, I think it's very, very if this is true it is a function of the Netflix shows aren't doing that well so let's if
Starting point is 00:27:12 we can if we can get people back in yeah does that are we getting Spider-Man Homecoming 2 then Daredevil season 3 no three first three see that's the thing that'd be weird like it seems odd to me that they'd go you'd think it'd be have him as a guest star a movie and then segue into daredevil season whatever so maybe they're doing season four maybe they've maybe they've plotted out four seasons of daredevil i don't know it's very possible yeah yeah i mean they've got that corridor they may as well use it that's right uh the other rumor is, which seems like bullshit, but might be true. Donald Glover is apparently going to join Black Panther, the Black Panther sequel. Right.
Starting point is 00:27:52 Even though he already plays the Prowler. He could be the Prowler. He could be the Prowler. I mean, they're doing more stuff in New York, so maybe that's what's happening. That's possible. I would like that. And the other one is that Michael B. Jordan's coming back. Potentially.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Like I think we said, he could be in the spirit world. And also, who knows what's happened after Avengers, that all the Avengers wraps up. I mean, maybe they just put some beads on him. Oh, yeah. Put him in a bag of ice, put some beads on him. Yeah, exactly. That's right.
Starting point is 00:28:17 Bring him back, yeah. And we don't know how, you know. Maybe he's got a son. Sweet. Yeah. No, look, if they could find a way to son. Sweet. Yeah. No, look, if they could find a way to bring him back. Yeah. 100%.
Starting point is 00:28:30 But it also kind of defeats the purpose of his choice at the end of that film. It does, doesn't it? Maybe they bring him back, though, and he's annoyed by it. I don't know. Yeah, totally. Yeah. That happened in a season of Buffy. That's true.
Starting point is 00:28:43 She died, then they were like, oh, my God, we're going to bring Buffy back. And they brought her back just like, I was having a really good time in the afterlife. You've ruined this. I hate this. I hate the real world. Didn't they think she was in hell or something? They thought she was in hell, but she was actually in heaven.
Starting point is 00:28:55 How did she get from hell to heaven? I think she was just always in heaven. Is there a rope? All right, there's a rope. Okay, good. Why doesn't everyone go up the rope? It's probably really long. Yeah, but she's got slayer powers yeah i get understanding that is she actually is she super powered i've never really seen she is yeah so she's strong super strong is she
Starting point is 00:29:12 could she crush a full can of soda yeah in a bad one was full yeah wow yeah that's not even an empty one would she get would it get sticky though like with her hands uh i mean if she didn't rinse them off yeah yeah okay so she's not completely powered i mean she's not impervious to all all soda related misadventures no okay that's what i thought yeah all right we're getting boy now that i think about it why did i even watch that show it's a good question mason i'm just gonna open the door because the dog's back oh come on the dog in you get dog come on up here we go dog there we go
Starting point is 00:29:47 alright here we go if I seem a bit manic Mason it's because I've been editing my 20 minute easter egg video for solo
Starting point is 00:29:56 right and also because Claire's been sick because she's had dental surgery been doing all of the cooking and the looking
Starting point is 00:30:02 after the kid and the work and I'm losing my fucking mind. Well, now you know how it bloody feels to be a bloody woman in 2018. You've got to do all the bloody work, don't you? Mason, not all men, all right? Yeah, no, fair enough.
Starting point is 00:30:13 What was I going to say? Are we segueing to solo now? Not yet. Okay, cool. There's rumours of episode nine, a Star Wars episode. Ollie, just chill the fuck out. Sit down, dog. Sit down.
Starting point is 00:30:22 I took her to the park. We ran around heaps. Yeah, sit down. She's more fired up than anything. I know. Okay, so this rumor for... Alright, fine. This rumor for Star Wars Episode IX... Covered in dog hair already.
Starting point is 00:30:34 This rumor for Star Wars Episode IX is that Grand Admiral Thrawn is going to show up. Right, okay. Which I like a lot. And the reason why... There's been a couple of things. A guy painted himself blue and put out an audition tape, which could just be an insane person. Absolutely it could.
Starting point is 00:30:49 But the other one is- Oh, it's definitely. Timothy Zahn has got two more books, Thrawn books in his- Starring Garth Brooks. That's right. He wrote, he created Thrawn, by the way, and he's writing all the new ones. But they're in limbo as Episode IX gets finalized, which makes people think, oh, they're in limbo
Starting point is 00:31:07 because he's going to show up in IX. I think this would be the best way to get people back on board for the Star Wars trilogy, the new trilogy. Okay, right. By bringing in an expanded universe character and a really competent villain and someone that people love from Rebels and Legends. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:31:27 If you've got Hugo Weaving or Benedict Cumberbatch or someone like that, I think it could be incredible. Yeah, right, okay. Hugo Weaving's being read. We know that. That's true, and he hated it. But he doesn't want to do that anymore. No, but maybe he'd be blue.
Starting point is 00:31:39 He'd be blue. Maybe that was the problem. Yeah. Yeah. So I just think this is... Okay, yeah. If this is true, which we don't know, I think it's a really clever idea. Yeah, problem. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know. I just think this is, if this is true, which I, we don't know.
Starting point is 00:31:46 I think it's a really clever idea. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. It's an, you've got the dog pinned down. I've got pinned the dog. Dog's gone wild.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Ollie, just chill out, man. Um, yeah. And, and they seem, they seem to be more in,
Starting point is 00:32:01 on board with integrating expanded universe stuff. It's more and more stuff. Yeah, yeah. They put all that stuff in the bin, and then now they're rifling through it. They're rifling through the bin. So this is, well, I was going to say because people know him from the books, but he's also been in Rebels. Yeah, he's back in Rebels.
Starting point is 00:32:17 You mentioned that, I think. There's a comic running at the moment, which is based off the first book, which is quite good. I think he's a really good character. I don't think he was used super well in Rebels. I'm going to spoil the end of Rebels. Okay, sure. But basically at the end, him and Ezra, who's like the...
Starting point is 00:32:30 Ezra Miller. Yeah, Ezra Miller. Who's like... He kind of is like Ezra Miller. He's like the Luke Skywalker of Rebels. Okay. They get into Star Destroyer and some space whales shoot Ezra Miller and Thrawn off into the unknown regions.
Starting point is 00:32:43 Okay. And then that's why he's not there for the original trilogy. Right. So I think you could easily bring him back. He's just pinwheeling through space. He's just pinwheeling through space. I don't think he was really used super effectively in Rebels. Rebels is a kid's show.
Starting point is 00:32:54 It's not my favorite. There's some really good moments, but on the whole, I'm kind of lukewarm on it. But the use of Thrawn in that also I didn't think was great because a lot of time he just watched the Rebels escape and he'd go, this is all part of my all part of my plan and don't worry let's just let this play out and then he loses so the plan ever no not really so the plan didn't emerge or didn't seem to i mean he had plans wow but there wasn't a moment where like i felt that he definitively crushed them he sounds like he sounds like a middle manager who takes credit for all his wins and blames somebody else for all his losses,
Starting point is 00:33:27 but never actually does anything. Correct. Well, the Empire's got to have some of those, surely. He's also voiced by Chad Nicholson, Mad Nicholson's brother. It's not his real name, but he is voiced by that guy. Wow. I don't know. Actually, Mads Mikkelsen would be a good Thrawn
Starting point is 00:33:42 if he wasn't already in Star Wars. He'd be a great choice. No, I think there's a very real possibility that this could happen because I think you really need to do a fan-friendly one. I mean, Solo's very fan-friendly. Oh, for sure, yeah. But I think on the original trilogy,
Starting point is 00:33:57 I would like to see... First of all, as a fan of The Last Jedi, I'd still like to see it. And if I hated The Last Jedi, this would be a great way to get me back. Oh, for sure. So, yeah. It's great, Mason.
Starting point is 00:34:08 And you're great. Well done. Happy birthday. Thank you. Another bit of news. Yes. The Boba Fett film hasn't been announced, but the Hollywood Reporter have Hollywood reported on it.
Starting point is 00:34:19 Okay. James Mangold is going to direct the spinoff. Logan's James Mangold. That's right. 310 to Yuma's James Mangold. That's right. Three-tenter humor's James Mangold. That's a good film. It is a good film. Simon Kinberg will co-write the script.
Starting point is 00:34:31 The mysterious Simon Kinberg. Is he good at things or is he not? What does he do? He's the General Thrawn of the entertainment industry. Is he good or not good? We don't know. I think it's Admiral Thrawn Mason. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:34:41 Yeah, that's okay. Okay. That's okay. No, I don't feel it's okay. You're being very forgiving there because it's my birthday. Yeah, you're. That's okay. No, I don't feel it's okay. You're being very forgiving there because it's my birthday. Yeah, you're right, I am. No, I don't. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:34:49 Yeah, but I thought... Is it Grand Admiral Thrawn? Yeah, it is. Oh, no! Now it's my birthday. Yeah, now it's your happy birthday. But this is... Of where this film is going to go, I think, ties into solo spoilers.
Starting point is 00:35:06 Okay. So I don't think we should probably talk about it here. Well, I thought there'll be a bonus video this week on my YouTube channel, youtube.com slash MrSundayMovies, where we'll talk about this and upcoming spin-off films and the Obi-Wan movie and solo sequels. So you can find that on the channel later in the week or Patreon a little bit earlier if you're lucky.
Starting point is 00:35:26 So we might save that for a little bit later. Not lucky. If you're lucky, Mason. Okay, right. I mean, as in, if I can remember. If you're lucky enough to give us a dollar a month. Yeah, if you're that lucky. If you're that lucky.
Starting point is 00:35:36 If you're a real lucky duck in that way. Yeah, that's it. Okay, Mason. Wait, there's some more news. Were you going to segue from Star Wars stuff? No, I was going to do an ad. What do you got? Okay.
Starting point is 00:35:44 I was going to say, it turns out this is Watchmen news. Oh, yeah, right. Watchmen, the TV series, is not going to be set. It's not going to be a reboot or remake of the original Watchmen TV, of the original Watchmen movie or comic book. It's going to be set in the present. It's going to be a present-day advancement of the storyline of Watchmen, I guess.
Starting point is 00:36:07 So remember we got those character descriptions like a like a month ago and we're like who are these characters we don't recognize them they're all new characters so there's not gonna so there's gonna be if night owl is alive say yes he's gonna be like 60 odd yeah i guess so yeah okay isn't that wild yeah i don't mind that i'd like quite like it too. Well, I think because we've talked about David Lindelof before and how he lost no good, but he crushed the leftovers. I think, where's Doomsday Clock at? Are they delayed that? They have delayed it.
Starting point is 00:36:35 I don't know how many applications are out. I'm just Googling it now because it's been three? Yeah, but I think this is going to be unrelated. I mean, obviously they won't be able to integrate the DC characters in. So maybe this is set in between Watchmen and Doomsday Clock. But Doomsday Clock is set in like 92 or something. Yeah, right. I think you could just say it's not connected.
Starting point is 00:36:53 Yeah. Or all that stuff happened and... For sure. And now everything's fine. Everything's fine or whatever. Yeah. But it also doesn't have to be a definite... It could be a sequel to the movie universe.
Starting point is 00:37:01 Correct. Even. So... We could do that thing where we just go there can be two there can be two there can be two happy birthday it takes two thank you that's uh oh the next issue issue number five is out on may 30 okay yeah how do i feel about that that again i don't remember look i have to rewatch rereadable yeah i might i i was on board initially yeah me too and then i think the the integration of the DC Universe is kind of...
Starting point is 00:37:27 I would have much preferred just be a... I never thought I'd say it, but I would much prefer it just to be a standalone Watchmen sequel. I agree. Which I never thought I'd say, but here it is. Combining the crossover with the DC Universe has kind of made it a bit silly for me. It's weak as balls.
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Starting point is 00:39:15 We've got some, they sent us a stuff. It's not all rickety. You know, sometimes you get a weird rickety handle. What you do, they sent us a Carry-On. I'm too excited for this. I said, right. You pop up the handle, what you do, and then you spin it. Yeah. And it's got a good spin to it. Absolutely. That's a mark of for this. Yeah, no, right? You pop up the handle, what you do, and then you spin it. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:39:37 Look, what I think we've learned throughout the course of this podcast is there's nothing better than a couple of guys cutting out the middleman and doing it on their own. Because they had a problem with a thing. Had a problem with a thing. With us, it was, how do we get ourselves on television? We're too ugly for television. And we're like, we'll cut out the middleman. We'll do a podcast.
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Starting point is 00:40:18 Yeah, which I don't know if you've ever traveled, Mason, because you know I have, obviously. I'm a man of the world. Here we go. When you've got your passport and your tickets and everything, and they're often too big for regular pockets. They are. And when that turned up, I'm like, that is. Like, you'd think that would be an obvious thing.
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Starting point is 00:43:35 yeah mason we have to talk about solo or star wars journey story yes whatever it's called uh we're gonna do non-spoilers and spoilers it's pretty uh there's not really anything you can spoil and then there's a massive thing you can spoil that's very true so we'll we'll steer clear of that until the spoiler section but if you could probably feel safe-ish to hang around until then i guess yeah for sure yeah i mean there's not this is we know where we know where solar we know where han solar the character ends, ends up. Yeah, dead. Yep. So, I mean, there's not a lot to spoil in this.
Starting point is 00:44:10 No. There's some twists and turns, but you know. Are there? Yep. Yeah, I guess so. Do you want me to talk box office? Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:44:19 So the initial reports were this is going to have $130 to $150 million US opening, which is a great opening by any standards. But there's been some more reports coming out, Mason, that it's going to be as low as $110 million. Yuck. Potentially lower. Why even bother? Well, that's the thing, because this is the most expensive...
Starting point is 00:44:35 That dog is really... You're going mad, dog. Cuckoo rub. Sit down. Just sit down. And you never know what she's going to do either. She might flip out. I'm pinning you, dog.
Starting point is 00:44:44 No, she doesn't flip out. Okay, stay there, dog. So yeah, this is the most expensive movie, Star Wars movie, sorry, ever made. Is it really? At $245 million. Last Jedi was $219 million. Wow. But the reason is because they reshot 70% of it.
Starting point is 00:44:57 I think they probably thought initially, we could probably do this one on the cheap. Yeah, for sure. But when you... Yeah, I think they were thinking for this spin-off, because it doesn't look more spectacular than a lot of other Star Wars films. No. So I think they were thinking,
Starting point is 00:45:14 we'll do a relatively cheaper one and we'll turn a little bit of a profit. We'll Deadpool this. Yeah, exactly. I mean, it still probably would have cost $200 million regardless, because there's a lot of costumes. There's also a lot of costumes, but the room's quite smoky, so you can't really see them regardless. yeah i i don't know it's uh it's interesting the way this is opening because it's quite there's a lot of positivity behind it
Starting point is 00:45:34 i think because maybe it returns to kind of a lot of the star wars stuff that people are familiar with correct but also a lot of people are saying empty midnight screenings like barely barely full like you went to a session last night i went to a late one and it was like yeah there was like six people in it yeah which is kind of this was a saturday it was a saturday yeah which is kind of unheard of but look i just think it's weird that you're gonna tell us what the story was do you want me to do it because it's your birthday no i'll do it here we go all right. All right. Han Solo's back, baby. He's back.
Starting point is 00:46:09 He survived that lightsaber blade to the chest and he's got a new look and a new attitude. It shot him through time. And now he's decided he's going to become a smuggler. He's going to do it. What was he before? Who knows? Diplomat or something. But now he's going to get a new Wookiee co-pilot
Starting point is 00:46:21 and he's going to go on some adventures. He doesn't care if that Wookiee's got a different name. He's going to call him the same name as the other one. That's right. He's going to get a new love. Princess Laish is a weird ghost torpedo flying through space. He's not on board with that.
Starting point is 00:46:34 Let's do it. Nah, this is actually a Han Solo prequel. It is. This is set before episode four. By like eight years. Something like that, yeah. Which makes him about 27. Nice, good age.
Starting point is 00:46:43 Though he seems he might be a bit younger. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. Which makes him about 27. Nice, good age. Though he seems he might be a bit younger. Yeah. I don't know. My initial fear about this movie was that it was going to segue directly into Star Wars. Yeah, it's pretty clear of that. Yeah. It looks like there's at least a couple of movies they might try and fit in, or different movies between now and then. But, I don't know, I just think this movie is like the cinematic equivalent of just a low hum.
Starting point is 00:47:05 Well, okay. You know what I mean? I get it. Not super unpleasant, but just a bit of nothing. Right. For me, it's the very definition of just a movie. Interesting. Here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:47:19 Here's the thing. This movie I don't think was surprising to me in any way. And some of it was bad sorry Golan okay right and I don't think Alden Ehrenreich looks or sounds
Starting point is 00:47:30 anything like Han Solo he's got the gun Mason but I really enjoyed this movie I had a really good time with this movie you were a real sack of shit I know right
Starting point is 00:47:37 you know who else really enjoyed this movie who my brother the one you don't like no do you think though that could be a result of you'd heard it was no good
Starting point is 00:47:47 and then maybe my expectation my expectations weren't low but i think they were like okay all of this all of the the all of han solo's character development is going to be handed to us on a platter it's going to be exactly there was a lot of that there was a bit of that but i think there were for me there are enough twists in it that I was okay with that. Okay, fair enough. All right. Weird, right? I'm surprised.
Starting point is 00:48:12 Yeah. I think the performances were good. That's the thing, though. I think his cast very well. I think that's not the problem with this film at all. Yeah. Do you want to talk about the cast? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:24 So I thought he did a really good job as young Han Solo. I think his mannerisms are Han Solo-esque. The voice is not... I don't think it's accurate at all. No, but I don't think it's supposed to be, really. Yeah, for sure. I think there's moments where certain words and a certain way he phrases things.
Starting point is 00:48:38 Yeah. Donald Glover is closer to Lando. I think so too. But also, they're both very different from both of those characters. Yeah, I mean, you weren't really good unless you got, and again,
Starting point is 00:48:48 a lot of people were clamoring for like an impressionist to be, or a mimic to take these roles. But I don't think that would have worked at all. I think, I mean,
Starting point is 00:48:55 he looked enough like him, like he's kind of lithe. He is. Like Han Solo's lithe. Yeah, that's true. So he's got that going for him. But you know what I thought was really good? I thought the guy who plays Chewie is really, really Solo's live. That 70s live, yeah, that's true. So he's got that going for him. But you know what I thought was really good?
Starting point is 00:49:05 I thought the guy who plays Chewie. Yes. Is really, really bloody dead on. Also because... Jutum Scrumpelbaum or whatever his name is. Yes. He's German. Yeah, he is.
Starting point is 00:49:13 Something like that. You know what made me sway a little bit is I watched some interviews with the cast on YouTube. Is this the answering questions? I saw one of those. Yeah. And that was very charming. And I saw one... I saw that was very charming and I saw one I saw a couple of
Starting point is 00:49:26 um Donald Glover and Phoebe Waller-Bridge yeah right who plays the droid yeah and I was like oh these guys are really charming
Starting point is 00:49:33 they are this is fun I agree this is fun and yeah they did they did um uh they did
Starting point is 00:49:39 yeah the wide interview with the autocompletes yes and they paired up uh Julian Scrumple-Blam yeah Amelia Clark and Chewy yeah togetherpletes yes and they paired up uh julian scrumple blam yeah amelia clark and chewy yeah together it was fun and they were really fun together yeah and it's weird because she's like five two she's five two he's seven feet tall yeah right
Starting point is 00:49:54 exactly or whatever but no i thought even though as well cast it was as it was and it's well acted i thought a lot of the humor for the screen i've seen it twice yes people weren't laughing i i i were no nobody uh there were a couple of laughs but i think they were and again i didn't see what at a full cinema yeah i i were like okay those parts are supposed to be the funny bits yeah but and i'm like okay i see how that would in a full cinema maybe of really enthusiastic people i'd see how that would be like people would laugh, but they didn't, is what you're saying. The only joke I think is particularly funny is, there's a clip of it released where Han Solo threatens a band of marauders,
Starting point is 00:50:35 and then the ship, and then the threat that he's going to, that's supposed to happen, can't. Yeah, right. And there's a weird kind of pause. I think that's a good joke. But other than that, it's mostly just like, I don't think so, buddy. Whatever. It's a lot of that. I thought it was witty in that.
Starting point is 00:50:52 I just didn't think. I don't know. Maybe the structure of the movie didn't. People weren't expecting those sort of jokes, maybe. But I think also, it doesn't have to be funny. Like the original Star Wars, it's humorous. I wouldn't even say a lot of these jokes fall flat. Yes.
Starting point is 00:51:09 Because of the original star Wars, they're not gags. It's just funny little situations that happen. Bumbling. Yeah. Bumbling, bumbling around prison blocks. It's probably got more in common with original star Wars in that sense that it
Starting point is 00:51:22 does with say some of the humor in the Last Jedi about your mum's ugly hucks or whatever. Like, there's none of that. I did feel very, like, I did feel a lot of Episode IV vibes to this. Yeah. Funny situations and so forth. Sure. I was not, going into this, I was not enthused at all.
Starting point is 00:51:38 Yeah. Like, the opening scene, to me, there was a lot of, like, weird ADR dialogue. Yeah. Of, like, hey, we're orphans living on an orphan planet what are we doing what's what a terrible life we live you know kind of thing and and i didn't feel i was like oh this is not going to be good yeah and i don't know it redeemed itself like like 25 minutes in i feel i found that because there's a chase sequence at the start
Starting point is 00:52:00 yes it's like a speeder chase it did it feel slow to you? Like physically slow. Yeah, I mean, it felt slip-slidey, certainly. But I think that worked because it's a... I mean, I'm not expecting pod racing, but he made Rush. Have you ever seen Rush, the Formula One movie? Oh, yeah, right. Which is great. Okay.
Starting point is 00:52:19 But then again, maybe all this stuff was shot, that stuff was shot prior. Yeah, right. maybe all this stuff was shot that stuff was shot prior yeah right but i feel like i never got any sense of speed with the pod racing chase sequence it just felt like moving flashing lights today and i think this did feel like real vehicles moving around i just think like they had they had they haven't they have an interesting model of physics like because they're speeders they don't have wheels yeah I know I felt it worked they can drift a corner they can drift yeah
Starting point is 00:52:47 fair enough yeah and there was and I think and that was consistent and it worked and there were bits where they would take corners but they didn't take corners
Starting point is 00:52:53 like a car would or a pod racer would they took corners like hovercrafts yeah like a like a Marty McFly would like a Marty McFly would yeah
Starting point is 00:53:01 on a horse yeah in Back to the Future 3 yeah yeah it's a good movie yeah I think though getting back to the cast 3. Yeah. Yeah, it's a good movie. Yeah, I think though, getting back to the cast. Yes.
Starting point is 00:53:09 I quite liked Emilia Clarke. Yes. I wasn't sure whether I would because everything I've seen her outside of Game of Thrones, I'm like, I don't know, is she even a good actor? But I thought she was really good in this and really compelling. I really liked Woody Harrelson because he's just being Woody Harrelson. Yeah, for sure. I didn't like- He's one of those guys who's just, he's one of those guys that just flew under the radar being a good actor for a for sure. I didn't like... He's one of those guys who's just...
Starting point is 00:53:25 He's one of those guys that just flew under the radar being a good actor for a long time and I didn't notice. Then I'm like, oh, actually, he's like John Goodman. Yeah, exactly. He kind of has that Harrison Ford, like, real-life vibe of not really giving a shit about Star Wars. Yeah, right. And being in it and being like,
Starting point is 00:53:40 this is a dumb world and nothing makes sense. I may as well be on some sort of ride. Yeah. So I got that kind of sense from him. And I quite liked the villain. I thought Paul Bettany was really good. Yeah, same. He replaced Michael K. Williams,
Starting point is 00:53:53 who was going to be like a cat man or something. Okay. But they reshot all of that with Paul Bettany. Michael K. Williams of The Wire. Yeah, The Wire. Yeah. I thought he was great. Like really, like one minute he'd be, you know,
Starting point is 00:54:04 threatening you with a knife. And then the one minute he'd be you know threatening you with a knife and then the next one is like we should do this again sometime this is great yeah i thought like he's a he's a lunatic who's trying to maintain the pretense that he's just a like he's just a jovial party he's a jovial he's a jovial party boy businessman yeah but also he's a lunatic underneath and i like the idea that he's trying he's he's a he's a gangster and he's a bad guy but he's trying to make a good go at this and his only problem like he if he wasn't this deranged lunatic he'd be doing fine but it's just he's got this this little problem that he's goes flies off the handle every once in a while absolutely i like and i liked all the character
Starting point is 00:54:41 designs as well and like the like he has like a signature weapon which i enjoyed a lot vibro blades potentially i guess so i don't know yeah i didn't like the new droid i did just another sassy droid oh sassy in the vein of k2so yeah just like they don't follow the rules this isn't a droid like you'd expect but they're all like that like they're all like r2d2 is a sassy droid yeah shopper all, like, R2-D2's a sassy droid. Yeah. Chopper's a sassy droid. K2SO's a sassy droid. Hang on, who was the middle one that was a sassy droid?
Starting point is 00:55:11 Oh, he's from Rebels. Okay, right. Yeah. No idea. But I don't know, like, I, but she's sassy in a different way. Yeah, sure. Okay. That's right.
Starting point is 00:55:19 Didn't care for it, Mason. Fair enough. I liked her a lot. Yeah. What else? I think, isn't she she seems very nice in real life that's true but no no okay right okay i'm just done with that's fair enough yep yeah but uh what else we got here i did i did actually like his crew the beckett's
Starting point is 00:55:37 crew and um a monkey voiced by john favreau yeah i thought they were really great time yeah but hey that's life isn't it and i also think in terms of action sequences yeah there was some there's there's one that's like set in war like there's a there's a there's a wartime action sequence it's way too brief you should think it should have been longer yes okay right that was that and the train heist were quite good everything else is just muddy kind of like there's a bit where they they they run into a they go to kessel yes and there's a heist it's in the trailers and they go they got to get a thing or whatever the other thing yeah the storyline
Starting point is 00:56:15 is this is it's very basic and it feels like rebels because rebels is always like we have to get the thing because we got to power the thing and thing. So we've got to put on a uniform and pretend to go in and get... It's just that. Here's the thing, though. I acknowledge that it is, but I guess the difference between you and me is... Beards. Beards. But also that I don't have plot...
Starting point is 00:56:40 Like, I don't have an overload of that plot. Yeah, sure. Like, are you up to date? I am. Okay, right. plot like i don't have an overload of that plot yeah sure like i get are you up to date are you watching mostly right okay right we'll see i maybe maybe because you have to watch like that episodic thing has been drilled into you you're like oh it's another one of these but since i don't watch any of those yeah i'm like oh i like i like the it's nice to have these epic quests and all this star you know this high star wars adventure broken up by like hey we're gonna get a thing and go to the thing so there's kind of two heisty moments.
Starting point is 00:57:06 The train one's quite good. The second one is just, that's supposed to be Kessel, right? Well, it is Kessel. And they've talked about Kessel since, I mean, it's showed up in Rebels and whatever, but we haven't seen it in live action. And they just land and it's a cave and like seven ponds. And that's it. Like there's no, I feel like a lot of these scenes, there's no scope to the way it's a cave and like seven ponds and that's it. Like there's no, I feel like a lot of these scenes, there's no scope to the way it's shot.
Starting point is 00:57:29 It's very, like there's some, I think it opens up more as the film goes on and like it starts in kind of dingy, dark alleys. And at the end you're in big, wide open plains. Like I'm sure that's probably a deliberate choice, but a lot of it felt like that sequence in particular, a deliberate choice, but a lot of it felt like that sequence in particular, just people just shooting each other, shooting each other in corridors and then, and then running past a pond and then flying away or whatever. I love ponds though.
Starting point is 00:57:51 Yeah. You love ponds. I know that. So I, yeah, I just think a lot of these action sequences and just sequences in general, and just like they'll walk into a room and it's just smoky and dark and you can't really see anything,
Starting point is 00:58:03 which I guess is kind of what the first bar is like on Taddy Blink. That's what I'm saying. Episode 4 vibes, man. I would say you even see less of that a lot of the times. So it's supposed to have the most costumes and whatever of all time. But I didn't get the sense of that at all. It's just people in cloaks shrouded in darkness the entire time. They spent a lot of money for nothing.
Starting point is 00:58:23 You could have just put Halloween store masks on everybody and you wouldn't have noticed, unless you're sitting with Lando. But then I think there were some scenes that had some great costuming. Yeah, I agree. When you could see it. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:58:33 Okay. Well, it's all about the little details. Isn't it, Mason? Yeah. Maybe the reason I hated this film is because they vaguely hinted that Lando's pansexual and people are freaking out. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:44 So he does have a weird relationship with the droid, which I guess we'll probably talk more about in spoilers. But who cares? I always got the sense that Lando would have sex with anybody. Yeah, for sure. And people are flipping out that this is, that's a bloody soy boy, whatever. But also Disney didn't go all the way
Starting point is 00:59:02 to make him definitively anything in the movie. It's like with Dumbledore being gay. You're going to show that in the movies? No. Right. Well, who cares? You're just casually saying it on Twitter. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:59:14 Who cares? You know? Yeah. I feel if you're going to do it, show it. Yeah. Don't just be like, oh, it feels like point scoring if you're like, well, actually, we'll show it then. I mean, if you want representation, if you want to pretend you're on board with representation as corporations are. Yes.
Starting point is 00:59:34 Right. And that's the thing. Like a lot of people are like, oh, this company is just, they're just promoting diversity and blah, blah, blah. Yeah. Well, corporations will do it to score points. Yeah. But then their stuff is given to creators who really care a lot about that stuff. So if it's like, well, they're just having African-American comic book characters now, whatever, just to cover the bases.
Starting point is 00:59:57 Well, yeah, but then you get an African-American creator who really cares a lot about that and makes a great story or whatever. Yeah, exactly. Or Catwoman, whatever. Maybe they make Catwoman, exactly. But, yeah, I mean, if you want to say there's representation, don't do it in a way that's like, well, we've got plausible deniability. He never actually does anything in the movie, so whatever. Whatever, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:18 I mean, I always got this, yeah, like I said, though, that Lando would... He wears a cape. He wears a cape. Who wears a cape now? He wears so many capes. So many capes. He's got so many capes. What else, Mason, that Lando would... He wears a cape. He wears a cape. Who wears a cape now? He wears so many capes. So many capes. He's got so many capes. What else, Mason, before we get into spoilers?
Starting point is 01:00:29 Ah, let me think. Actually, looking at this, I do have a lot of stuff I want to say in spoilers. Okay, right. Let's get to spoilers. Do you want to go to spoilers? All right. I think this is the best movie ever. I mean, it's not the best movie ever, but obviously I'm going to give it best movie ever.
Starting point is 01:00:40 Man, if I could just a movie this, I really would. You can't, though. That's the rule. Not on my birthday. No, you're right. I think it's movie this, I really would. You can't though. That's the rule. Not on my birthday. You're right. I think it's, then I guess it's best, but I think it's one of those things where it's okay to have a movie like
Starting point is 01:00:51 this. Yep. And also a movie like the last Jedi. Correct. Like just something that's a bog standard movie. And then something that tries a little bit harder. And even if I think. I see that thing.
Starting point is 01:01:01 I think it did try a little bit harder than a, sorry, a bit more ambitious in terms of storytelling. Okay, right. Yeah, it's not that... It doesn't feel half-assed. No, I think this is a very good example of a solid action movie. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:15 Like, it's not... All of it makes sense, more or less. And the action sequences, I think, are solid. The characters are solid. I felt for the characters when various bits and pieces were happening. So I think it's a good... Like, this is the baseline for, I think, a very good action movie. What?
Starting point is 01:01:34 Yeah. You've lost it, mate. No, I think that's... You're riding high on birthday cake or something. I am, yeah. No, but look, you're not alone. Maybe you're riding low on you can't eat any carbs or sugar. That's probably true.
Starting point is 01:01:43 Is that still happening? Still happening. Three weeks left. Jesus. No, it's... Yeah, I don't disagree with... Well, I do disagree with you from what I thought of it. But there's a lot of people who feel exactly the same way.
Starting point is 01:01:55 Yeah, look, and I'm not... I'm a guy who also liked The Force Awakens and I liked The Last Jedi. Yeah. And I've hated a lot of other Star Wars properties in the past. Sure. I'm not going, well, I hated The Last Jedi, but I like this one of other Star Wars properties in the past. I'm not going well I hated The Last Jedi but I like this one
Starting point is 01:02:07 because it's just like the ones I remember. Some of the ones that I remember aren't very good. I thus far liked all the new ones. I think this is the dullest of the new ones. Yeah, fair enough.
Starting point is 01:02:17 Where would you rank it if you had to rank the new ones? I'm going to put Last Jedi at the top. Yep. Then I'm going to go Solo Force Awakens Rogue One. Solo Force Awakens Rogue One.
Starting point is 01:02:30 Okay. Yeah. You're wrong, but that's okay. That's fine. Everyone's allowed to have an opinion. Everyone's allowed to have a correct, great opinion. But I don't think it's also a terrible business model unless this is going to not do well. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:02:40 To do a bog standard one like this and then do something out there because it kind of keeps everybody happy. Yep. You know what I mean? Or no one happy. Or no one happy, yeah. Maybe in the end it's going to please no one at all.
Starting point is 01:02:54 Yeah. Not everything has to be stakes, end of the universe and whatever, which I think is also a good thing. Also, it's amazing that this isn't an incoherent nightmare. That's very true. It feels way more... I didn't like it as much as Rogue One't an incoherent nightmare. That's very true. It feels way more... I didn't like it as much as Rogue One,
Starting point is 01:03:08 but it feels way more coherent. Yeah, right. Yeah. Because as all Star Wars films do, they fire the director. Yes, that's right. That's the lay of the land. All right, let's do some spoilers. Let's do spoilers.
Starting point is 01:03:20 There's time codes if you want to jump ahead, but there's also probably going to be spoilers just in the rest of this episode. That's what we like to do. So probably maybe give this one a skip. All right. Okay. So you must have hated the bit where Han Solo got literally given his name, right?
Starting point is 01:03:36 Where he goes to sign up for the Imperial Academy and the guy says, what's your name? And he goes, I'm just by myself. My name's Han. Even though he has a dad, because he says it later in the film, he's throwing the name away, whatever. Maybe his dad doesn't have a name.
Starting point is 01:03:50 He must. But then the guy goes, oh, Han Solo. You're trying to escape the planet, first of all. Just say anything. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:04:00 Just say, Han Flugelborgen. It doesn't matter. Say anything at all. Exactly, take a name from real life. Yeah, that's... Flugelborgen. The guy who matter. Say anything at all. Exactly. Take a name from real life. Yeah. Flugelblagen. The guy who plays Chewbacca.
Starting point is 01:04:09 That's right. Guess what? I didn't hate it. And I guess anybody can just sign up for the Imperial Academy. They just walk up and go, my name's John. What do you want to be? I'm no pilot. No worries.
Starting point is 01:04:19 Do you want to be John Flugelblagen? Yeah. All right. Here's your ID card. You can start flying next week. Here's the thing. They're not that great at administration. Noagen? Yeah. Alright, here's your ID card. You can start flying next week. Here's the thing. They're not that great at administration. No shit. Yeah. But also, they'll take
Starting point is 01:04:30 anybody. They just want as much cannon fodder as they can get. No, I understand that, but it just, like, any rebellion lunatic could get in there and just crash a TIE fighter into the Emperor. It doesn't make any sense to me that they wouldn't even slightly check. Also, they knew a guy got loose in there that's true i mean they grabbed some guy by
Starting point is 01:04:49 mistake though didn't they yeah that's true yeah i just thought that was absolute insanity that a guy with no last name showed up and they just let him fly spaceships but i mean that's the thing like this universe isn't a universe where everybody's got a you know a name a middle name a surname a social security number and whatever no it's just it's a it's a lawless universe so i think you could be a guy with no name but because of their admin they have to put in a last name maybe there's a whole bunch of solos out there maybe that's just their default maybe what if his name was harn blank sure yeah in the in the books that no No Fixed Address. The original books. Yes. He gets his retinas changed and he has like multiple IDs and different personalities and all sorts of shit to get.
Starting point is 01:05:33 And he ends up using his real name, Han Solo, to get into the Empire. But he's got like three that he's been using and he robs a bank with one and does a bunch of other shit. But here you could just say anything apparently. I thought you would hate that. No, don't mind it. Han Solo. I'll just call you Han Solo.
Starting point is 01:05:50 Call him Han alone. Call him Han by himself. Call him Han no friends. Yeah. It's ridiculous. Han hasn't got a family. That's what they could call him. What about haven't got a family? Haven't got a family. Yeah, for could call him What about Harv and got a family
Starting point is 01:06:05 Harv and got a family Yeah for sure Yeah No I thought it was fine with it Look I'm swept up in the magic Alright That was the bit You didn't even like in the movie
Starting point is 01:06:12 Which bit The start No I didn't like the start start Where the kids are like Oh we're just Oh I got an extra potion Cause I'm blah blah blah I didn't mind that
Starting point is 01:06:21 I hated that I like the weird Like sunburnt worm Or whatever Yeah Like just a weird creature Living in a pond That you just gotta work for I didn't mind that. I hated that. I like the weird sunburnt worm or whatever. Yeah. Like just a weird creature living in a pond that you've just got to work for. I didn't mind the sunburnt worm. I just didn't hate the little orphan kids. There's barely any of that.
Starting point is 01:06:32 No, no, but that's what I'm saying. Okay, fair enough. The other thing is, so Lando's robot that he had sex with? No, I think potential. I think the implication in this movie is that the droid has had sex with humans before, and he wants to have sex with her, but they haven't done it yet. Right. Okay.
Starting point is 01:06:49 Sure. I think they've just got a platonic relationship and he has a crush on her. Great. Good on him. So. Cause she's like, no, it works. Yeah. And that, yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:57 And they're friends. Right. And he loves her or whatever. And when she dies, spoiler alert, he's really broken up. And then they just put him in a, he puts them in a ship, so she's trapped in a computer forever. And then he just loses the ship to another guy. And he's okay with it, yeah. He's not like, can I get my robot out of this computer that I'm in love with? Nah.
Starting point is 01:07:15 Maybe he does, though. I don't... No, he doesn't, because in Empire Strikes Back, C-3PO's talking to the computer. And he says she's got a foul mouth. He's like, there's something wrong with your computer, mate. She's got a foul mouth. I thought that was a fun Easter egg, yeah. Yeah. So he says peculiar dialects. Maybe he gets a copy out. And he says she's got a foul mouth. He's like, there's something wrong with your computer, mate. She's got a foul mouth. I thought that was a fun Easter egg. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:25 Yeah. Uh-huh. So he says peculiar dialect. Maybe he gets a copy out. Maybe he gets a copy later. Mate, but she's still trapped in there. Yeah, I know. Black mirror style.
Starting point is 01:07:33 Maybe she's enjoying her time there. Destroyed who wanted to be free. Maybe she's- From human constraints. Maybe this is the ultimate freedom. What? Being in a ship piloted by a lunatic. By Han Solo, yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:42 Uh-huh. No, I don't know. Piloted by Han no friends. Yeah, by Han. Ridic. Okay, so you know what I didn't mind? What's that? I didn't mind the Sabacc stuff, right?
Starting point is 01:07:52 Right, okay. There's two tournaments, one where Lando cheats and the second one where it's in a weird rainforest in a cave. And he can't cheat because Han's got one over him on him, yeah. I mean, it's also very obvious that he's got the cards up his sleeve. Like, it's blindingly obvious. And everyone's just sitting around this round table just looking at each other's cards.
Starting point is 01:08:10 There's people around. You could have a guy standing behind the person you're supposed to be and he's just giving you hand signals. Yeah, right. Han signals. Han signals for what kind of sabacc cards you've got or whatever. Well, it's the honor system, man. But also...
Starting point is 01:08:23 That's why Lando is so good at it because he defies the odds he's a cheat he's a cheat and everybody else is very honourable and why are we
Starting point is 01:08:31 building up the dice for these legendary dice that he won the Millennium Falcon with yeah right did you see him take them off the chain and roll them
Starting point is 01:08:39 in the game at all no never what are we doing here aren't they just his dice no because there's like visual dictionaries where it's like,
Starting point is 01:08:45 these are the dice that he won the Millennium Falcon with. Well, guess what? Now they're not. He won a Sabacc game. Look, and what I appreciate... But he always won it with Sabacc. What I appreciate is they never explain
Starting point is 01:08:55 how Sabacc works. You didn't want a bit of a... I don't want their long explanation of how it works. I just... Get the green card in your hand. They effectively showed this fun, thrilling game of Sabacc card and they effectively they've effectively showed this fun thrilling game of sabacc and they didn't just go and they didn't have to explain the rules they
Starting point is 01:09:10 were just like full sabacc yeah i'm okay with that bitches yeah because it's not the movie where to do a casino casino royale breakdown of what cards made what exactly you don't need any of that exactly but i didn't i didn't mind that here's another dumb thing in this dumb film i'm ready for it so chewy has a life debt to han yes even though he mostly helped han escape the mud pit right he like he knocked down the the big post but chewy didn't have the plan yeah but han didn't have the muscle like they did it together he didn't have a way off the planet but then he was also going to leave at one point. So is the life debt still coming? Maybe.
Starting point is 01:09:49 Because there's a moment where he's going to bugger off. Well, he never says, I owe you a life debt, does he? No. So maybe it's coming up. Maybe. There's time for more adventures, mate. It just feels like they're just more mates. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:58 Which I'm okay with. Also, maybe Chewbacca's dumb. He seems kind of dumb. Maybe he's like. No, he can fly. He's quite. Well, maybe he's just good at flying. He's a banging pilot as well. Yeah. Maybe he's like... No, he can fly. He's quite... Well, maybe he's just good at flying. He's a banging pilot as well.
Starting point is 01:10:07 Yeah. Remember in... The banging bod. The banging bod. In The Last Jedi... Yes. When he flies through the crystal caves or whatever, he's killing it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:15 He's a great pilot. Yeah. He should fly all the time. Absolutely, he should. He should sit there and just scream. Yeah. That's true. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:23 I liked that he looked thinner. Because he's younger. Yeah. Because he looked thinner because he's younger yeah because he's younger and he's been in a mud pit yeah for sure I was speaking to David who I saw the movie with
Starting point is 01:10:32 who I see at a few screenings and he was like was Chewbacca just eating people in that pit good question must have been he must have been I always assumed
Starting point is 01:10:40 they were vegetarians who just tore people's arms off I don't think they are okay right yeah because remember the bit in Return of the Jedi where
Starting point is 01:10:46 there's that dead animal on a stick and Chewie's like I'm gonna get it oh yeah that's right okay so remember that Mason I do remember it now
Starting point is 01:10:54 yeah I just thought it was a kind of underwhelming pairing of the two of them I thought it was alright I thought it was good I think there's
Starting point is 01:11:03 there's time for those characters to develop if indeed there are any sequels to this yeah sure what else did i like in this oh yeah i liked i liked we talked about it i like dryden's weird lightsaber knife thing sure fun vibro blades i don't know i think they were just lightsaber things i like the fact that they put in a little terras kasi reference ah so good so good. I enjoyed that a lot. Yeah. Yeah. Is that an official canon except other than in the Masters of Terras Kasai, the video game?
Starting point is 01:11:33 I think Prince Sheezer or Zyzer or whatever you call him can do Terras Kasai. I think it's in Shadows of the Empire. Ah, what else was good? That's a great game though. That's not though. You're right.
Starting point is 01:11:44 Yeah, you're thinking of anything else. I'm thinking of other games. Okay, what about the bit how the Lando's Falcon, it's quite sexy and sleek, and then Han just chips away at it for 15 minutes. And it's completely wrecked. And then it just looks like his version of it. I think that's great.
Starting point is 01:11:58 I enjoyed that, too. You don't think it was, they should have done like, he's just a grubby monster, and he just, over time, he's just not cleaned it and just got the dish knocked off. No, I love the fact that they wrecked it straight away. And he's just never cleaned it for 30 years. I think that's great. Yeah, I didn't mind that either.
Starting point is 01:12:14 I just wanted to know what you thought. Do you like the bit how he forced himself on a woman in the Millennium Falcon? No. But I mean, that's classic Han, isn't it? It's very classic Han. What do you think about that Emilia Clarke twist, though? I didn't mind it, actually. Yeah, I didn't mind it either.
Starting point is 01:12:29 I thought it was... I mean, the Woody Harrelson twist was blindingly obvious because he kept telling Han Solo not to trust anyone. But I kind of enjoyed that. It was a throwback to like your Indiana Joneses or whatever. And then there was a plan and a betrayal and a counter betrayal. Yep. That's good.
Starting point is 01:12:48 That's all fine. That's all fine. And then he was like, don't improvise. But then he did improvise. He had to improvise. I remember that as well, Mason. Look, I feel like they went, okay, we've got to include the blast or we've got to include the Kessel Run and we've got to include the whatever.
Starting point is 01:13:03 And I was expecting it to be much more rote than it was, but I enjoyed all of those things. Also, what I did enjoy is that he got the scar. No, he didn't. Didn't he? He already had it. That's what I'm saying. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:13 But we don't know how he got it. No, I like that too. But you didn't mind him getting given his name and also getting, like, someone throws him his gun. No, I'm okay with it now. What are you even talking about? I don't know, maybe it's because it was Woody Harrelson doing it. And I liked Woody Harrelson's character.
Starting point is 01:13:27 You've talked about before that you didn't like that in the trailers. I know. You're allowed to change your opinion though, aren't you? Thank you. Maybe I'll change it again tomorrow. I hope so, Mason. And then I'll let you know. To even better.
Starting point is 01:13:36 Even better, yeah. I was going to say something about something. I quite like the Jon Favreau monkey. Yep. I thought it was a shame that he kind of got killed off earlier with Tandy Newton who I also liked what did you did you like or did you not like some of the other references like Bosque or no I like that's my I think it's that's the kind of stuff I like as opposed to like there's a bunch of stuff in the background of Dryden Boss's chamber there's like it's in my easter egg video but there's like the Indiana Jones gold idol and there's a bunch of
Starting point is 01:14:02 stuff from Star Wars Legends in there. Yeah, there's a... Right, okay. But then in Rogue One, they're like, look, it's the guy from the Mos Eisley Cantina. We ran into him. Like, come on. Yeah, right, okay. So I like those little things like that.
Starting point is 01:14:15 Because some people make it... Some people feel like that makes it seem like a small universe. No, I can imagine Bosk being in a... Yeah, he's a known guy. Yeah, if you're a guy like that and you work in the underworld, you'd know the other guys like that. You've got a weird mole lizard head. Yeah, you've got a mole lizard head.
Starting point is 01:14:31 You're well known. You don't wear shoes or boots. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, he's good, aren't you? And there's references to other characters. Lando thanks... The Academy. Thanks, the Academy.
Starting point is 01:14:42 Thanks, Beckett, for killing Aurra Sing, who's a character who showed up briefly in Phantom Menace and then showed up in The Clone Wars. Speaking of characters that show up in The Phantom Menace, I like that. I like that appearance. It's not a bad inclusion, but it's ridiculous for multiple reasons.
Starting point is 01:15:00 Why did you like it? I think the execution was bad, but I loved the fact that the Crimson Dawn was, he was behind it. Agreed. I don't know if he's still, I guess he's not a Sith anymore. Is he still a Sith? He's dead. What do you mean?
Starting point is 01:15:13 He dies like three years later. Obi-Wan kills him. Oh, that's right. Yeah. Oh, that's right. Because it's out of continuity. Well, guess what? They changed the continuity again.
Starting point is 01:15:21 No, no. In this continuity. Oh, he's still alive. He's dead. Right. In Star Wars Rebels, he's still alive. He's dead. Right. In Star Wars Rebels, he turns up. Yep. And he goes to find Obi-Wan Kenobi.
Starting point is 01:15:29 And there's the big build-up, and then Obi-Wan kills him. And then kills him in life. Yeah. How does he kill him? Just cuts him. How? There's like two swings. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:37 And then he just kills him. How does he kill him, though? Like, I mean, specifically, does it cut him in, like... No, he dies. He's dead. Huh. I mean, it would be bizarre if he turned up again. Did he have the robot legs?
Starting point is 01:15:47 Yes. Okay. But what does... So, basically... Didn't occur to me. And I remember that happening, but I... That's the thing, though. If they hadn't have brought him up in Rebels...
Starting point is 01:15:55 Yeah. This is great. Yes. Because from this, you could have then spun off into the Obi-Wan movie, the Boba Fett movie, all these things upcoming, which you can still do but now we know that darth maul definitively dies in a cartoon in the desert in three years or whatever wait so hang on so is he already dead in this continuity he's dead yes so he died three years ago no he dies three about three to four years after this. After Solo? Yes. Oh, that's fine then.
Starting point is 01:16:25 But then... That's fine. They haven't broken the continuity. No, no, they haven't broken... He's still got three years to do a lot of damage. No, they haven't broken the continuity, but it's also,
Starting point is 01:16:34 at that point, there's no Crimson Dawn. He's not working for anybody. He's a weird hermit hanging out on Dathomir, which he mentions, like a weird Sith planet. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:42 Well, that's fine. I thought you were saying that he had previously... I thought you were saying that he had previous, I thought you were saying he died in rebels and then, then they brought him back for this, which would make no sense. But I think that's fine because what you have to do, you can,
Starting point is 01:16:53 then the sequel is, if there's a sequel, maybe there's maybe the Fett movie or whatever. Yeah. You have, you have Han or Fett destroy the Crimson Dawn and then he's a guy with nothing left. But you can't have Han destroy it because he's never seen any magic or whatever.
Starting point is 01:17:08 Had he been? Because in A New Hope he's like, I've seen weird slug monsters in space doing a Kessel Run, but I've never seen the Force. Okay. So you can't have that happen. Maybe...
Starting point is 01:17:19 It should have brought back Dooku. Just a severed head on spider legs. Oh, that'd be so good. Do we see Darth Maul do a lot of Force stuff in Rebels? Yeah, he can do all that. Okay. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:17:30 But he's clearly been stripped of his powers or of all his influence or whatever because basically he starts a criminal organization. I talk about this in my Easter egg video in more detail because he hates... because he wants to go back with the Emperor. He wants to get back together with him. Oh, yeah, I understand.
Starting point is 01:17:44 And the Emperor's like, no. No. I've got a new boy now i've got a new count dooku yeah that's exactly right and uh so he creates his criminal empire yes to rival the empire and is that mentioned at all in rebels no okay so somewhere between he kind of loses it in clone wars but i guess he doesn't also i love the bit where he takes his hood off and then he lights up his lightsaber that was just in case you didn't get it! Yeah, no, I was going to say that. I was on board. I'm like, this is amazing.
Starting point is 01:18:11 But then when he lit it up, I'm like, we get it. He's got robot legs and it's obvious. He's the only guy in the universe that we've seen who looks like this. I know there's others. Savage oppresses. I know there's others, but he's the only one we've seen in the movies in the universe who looks like this. It's very obviously Darth Maul.
Starting point is 01:18:28 He doesn't have to light up his... Like, what is he doing? It'd be like if I called you on FaceTime and was like, I'm going to get you and I waved a knife at you. Why? I agree. Also, I guess how this criminal organization works
Starting point is 01:18:40 of Darth Maul's, and I can see why he's not running it anymore, because if you just kill the guy in charge and call him you're just in charge also yeah like this is a movie where a lot of people trust a lot of other people boy do they know everybody even though everybody knows they shouldn't yeah right nobody looks at each other's cards on the back table nobody but they do nobody nobody looks into anybody's name or and nobody looks into did maybe you kill your boss but that's the thing i think my i think it's implied that he doesn't trust her he's like we're going to be working very closely
Starting point is 01:19:08 together i think he's i think that's implying that he's going to go visit her and they're gonna and he's going to be like what happened here i'm going to investigate using my sith powers and my double lightsaber here's a question though a few people have posited this i'm ready is this a a contender for the gamers on? So for those people who don't know, we award a movie at the end of the year for a movie that sets up
Starting point is 01:19:29 a sequel so heavily. Or a franchise. Just the most heavy-handed attempt to build sequels or franchises that amounts to nothing. I would say that even if there's not
Starting point is 01:19:39 a sequel to this, that character's going to show up in another spin-off. All? Yeah. Do you not say his name? I won't say it, Mason. You're just going to show up in another spinoff. So I... Yeah. I think even if this movie doesn't show up... Do you not say his name? I won't say it, Mason.
Starting point is 01:19:48 It's going to say. No. So I think... No, I don't think it is. Uh-huh. But I could see how it feels a bit... Look at this lightsaber. I mean, we'll see how we go.
Starting point is 01:19:57 But I mean, yeah, that was real... I love the cameo as, again, someone who hated The Phantom Menace. Yeah. But enjoyed that character, I guess. I enjoyed the cameo, but thought that the lightsaber lighting up was weirdly on the nose yeah we get it that was he voiced by peter seraphim no it's uh sam whitworth who's star killer yeah and he also voices sometimes he's the emperor and he also does him in the rebels and was that sam whitworth in the makeup okay no no no that was ray park in the makeup original darth maul yes good stuff
Starting point is 01:20:24 yeah i look i think if i didn't know that he died in the desert three years after this i'd be so excited because then i'm like well they're making an obi-wan movie you could be like well han solo dies in force awakens no i understand that but it's but it's a very small time frame and they've also ruled out definitively certain ways that it can go. As in him and Obi-Wan being reunited in an actual movie. Yes. And look, I thought Rebels did that really well. And part of the reason I thought it did really well because
Starting point is 01:20:53 I didn't think we were going to see him again in anything else. But now that he's showed up in the movies I think in maybe one of the currently non-canon books he comes back with spider legs. No, he does come back with spider legs. That's canon yeah so yeah spider legs then regular legs well what happens is he falls down the the shaft yeah and he's real mad because he's in half yes and then he gets that like he gets picked up with the trash and taken to trash world yeah he makes spider legs for himself
Starting point is 01:21:21 cool yeah so he's got skills and then his his brother, Savage Oppressed, goes to find him. Okay. Real name. Is he also red? He's yellow. Huh. Does he have... The black stuff's makeup, right?
Starting point is 01:21:32 It might be, but his brother has it as well, so it could be tattoos. It could be a tribal thing. I mean, it's makeup in terms of the actor wears makeup. Ray Park doesn't look like that. No, no. I mean, as far as we know. Maybe it's a happy accident. Maybe he wears
Starting point is 01:21:46 human makeup. Yeah, like the Joker in Batman 80 God. I just thought that was... It's nearly a really good idea. But, no. So, is it expressly stated in Rebels that they haven't met
Starting point is 01:22:01 since Phantom Menace? Him and Obi-Wan? No, that's true. No. That's what I'm saying. But it's... Maybe this is a long time coming. But it's... Yeah, oh, definitely it's a long time coming. Maybe this is...
Starting point is 01:22:10 Maybe Obi-Wan finally defeating him in Rebels is like a... It's a double revenge scenario. Sure. Like maybe you could say... They've also fought in the Clone Wars before as well. Yeah, right. Okay. Like, because he's come back with robot legs and fought Obi-Wan multiple times.
Starting point is 01:22:24 Well, what I'm saying is maybe in the Obi-Wan, if you want to put them together, in the Obi-Wan movie, Obi-Wan settles down and he's like, it's time for me to take a wife and become a farmer and whatever. And then Maul shows up and kills his wife. And then he's like, all right.
Starting point is 01:22:38 Now I'm Obi-Wan. Now double revenge. That's time for double revenge. Yeah, I just think, I think it's good in terms of like the canon, because it means that these episodes of Rebels and the comics and whatever, they matter more than they previously were because they felt very separate a lot of time prior to this. But that's a story I'd rather see in a movie.
Starting point is 01:22:58 Okay. And now we're going to not see it. I think we can though. I think you're speaking too soon. I think three, even if we're saying okay it's only three years that's a long time it's probably more
Starting point is 01:23:06 like five but whatever five years and that's space years which go for ages all the same all the same
Starting point is 01:23:13 it could be the same there's a Darth Maul can do a lot of damage in five years there's room
Starting point is 01:23:17 there I don't disagree with you and clearly his empire has crumbled so we're just going to have to see how that plays out
Starting point is 01:23:22 I think maybe I'm just you know what it is it's probably more like the thing that I wanted to happen didn't happen so I'll do it so we're just going to have to see how that plays out. I think maybe I'm just... You know what it is. It's probably more like the thing that I wanted to happen didn't happen so I'll do that. See, because I have very little of that because I'm not aware of most of the continuity.
Starting point is 01:23:34 Did you enjoy the Kessel Run? Because I thought it was not that good or interesting. I thought there was some tension there. I like the space squid. There's a squid and you pull its face off and you escape. No, I just thought... I don't know know i just didn't think they're really why do you hate star wars so much but that's the thing mason i don't and that's and i don't even mind that i don't really like this one because we're getting him forever yeah so it doesn't matter you know even if the next 10 are
Starting point is 01:24:01 bad yep well then we'll probably like we probably get another great one at some point. Yeah, right. So it's absolutely fine. Yeah. I do wonder, though, if this does underperform, how that affects if they were going to do a solo sequel, which they seem to be setting up for some version, or if they're going to scrap a lot of these ideas or pivot or whatever. Do you think also the idea of putting Darth Maul in this
Starting point is 01:24:24 and then promising that he'll show up in a movie again, I think will get more people into audiences. Absolutely, yeah. I think this was a very calculated move. It should have been Dooku, though. It should have been Dooku's hair. Yeah, for sure. Or Grievous.
Starting point is 01:24:35 Imagine if the hood pulls back and it's Grievous and he says, well, I'm going to come visit you. And then four lightsabers come out and he's like, that'd be so good that would be so good okay I've got some user reviews here not user
Starting point is 01:24:50 we've got some people who listen reviews pronounceable name says loved solo star wars story so much they should make a Darth Vader prequel movie
Starting point is 01:24:57 where did he get his name where did he get his helmet why is he so afraid of choking on his aspirations and they should give him a sassy droid. He's right.
Starting point is 01:25:07 Peach Mint Pie says, Solo's Star Wars was a bad episode of How I Met Your Mother. Rise Kent says, for a movie I had no expectations on, never really wanted, I actually had a fun time with Solo. Star Wars movies are becoming very divisive, aren't they? Boy, are they, yeah. Jason says, just got out of Solo. It was a whole lot of fun. The train heist scene was fantastic. Corey says, to me, solo felt like a cheap star wars ripoff trying to make a profit on the
Starting point is 01:25:29 success of the original movies rename the character something other than haan and it's just a generic sci-fi movie and jai says uh solo was fun but felt like four story genres set in the one universe none of them mastering or subverting any of them. It was American Graffiti, Indiana Jones and Ocean's Eleven before the soft Alien Covenant ending. So yeah, I hope that, I think those reviews run the gamut of how people feel about this film. Do you want to see a solo sequel?
Starting point is 01:25:56 Yes, I do now. Yeah, that's right. What are Han and Chewie going to get up to? Destroy Crimson Dawn, probably. Maybe Boba Fett's going to be there. Maybe. You know what I think could be interesting? What's that? Bosk.
Starting point is 01:26:08 Yeah, sure. But Emilia Clarke stays as the crime lord and they bring her back for the Jon Favreau TV series set after the original trilogy. Yeah, right. So she's still the head of... There's the Black Sun and whatever and she's one of those.
Starting point is 01:26:23 Well, I enjoyed the fact that that character made the decision to be like well look i'm a survivor and whatever has happened in the previous three years has changed her to the point where she's like well i could go with my lost love han solo or i should just head this criminal empire because that's what i've worked for here that i get laser knives yeah that was my goal all along i guess i thought that was really interesting did you like the bit how she took the sword, betrayed? Yeah. Because you didn't know she was going to betray him. And then she does a speech about finding somebody's weaknesses.
Starting point is 01:26:51 Even though she had the sword, she could have just stabbed him in the back when he was fighting Han Solo. I mean, she could have shot him ages ago. Yeah. Yeah. That's all I'm saying. What a good movie, though. I liked it. Yeah, me too.
Starting point is 01:27:01 It was really great. And it wasn't dull for a lot of it. Are you all right? Are you having a nervous breakdown? It's the very definition of just a movie, Mason Even though you loved it I loved it I still like to know people's opinions on it
Starting point is 01:27:14 Because people are obviously divided It didn't break Star Wars movies No, that's true, yeah, exactly It's all fine I think you're just afraid it's going to No, I'm not I think they should fuck with it more Because it upsets people Yeah, exactly. It's all fine. I think you're just afraid it's going to. No, I'm not. I think they should fuck with it more because it upsets people. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:27:30 No, I think I mean because you're upset that it will ruin rebels, your precious rebels. It'll ruin your rebels. I don't give a shit about rebels. Wow, that's not really a rebel attitude, is it? I hope everything's the same and nothing changes. I'm saying the opposite of that. Like the rebels. No, I'm saying they should change it.
Starting point is 01:27:47 That's you. You know what they should do? They should kill Darth Maul in the movies. Yeah, that'd be great. Yeah. And then his brother has to paint over his yellow face with a red face. And then blackface it. His brother's already dead.
Starting point is 01:27:59 Oh, that's a shame. Okay. All right. Well, he's got another brother. Yeah. Who's green. Are you just doing like the Sub-Zero Scorpion colors? I'm doing the M&M's colors.
Starting point is 01:28:10 Right. Yeah. This is a Sub-Zero Scorpion. Green M&M's on a lady. Oh, that's true. Good stuff. What a great movie. All right.
Starting point is 01:28:17 Do you know what it's time for then? Oh, it's time for what we're reading. What are we going to read? Yeah. I thought you were going to do something else, Sam, but you didn't. No. Theme song. Nice.
Starting point is 01:28:25 I'm doing the thing what are we reading today what are you reading oh i finally got to inside lewin davis the uh oscar isaac that's a great movie look it is it's a it's a great, but it's really depressing. Yes, it is. I mean, I didn't enjoy it. No. I enjoyed the characters and I enjoyed... I appreciated how the story played out. How good is Adam Driver at doing everything? Yeah, but I mean, it's not... I didn't like it.
Starting point is 01:28:59 It's so sad. Oscar Isaac's really good. Nothing works out and I feel cold. The whole time I was watching it, I felt cold. I loved it. I thought it was good. That's how all movies should be. No, it doesn't work. That's how I feel. So works out and I feel cold. The whole time I was watching it, I felt cold. I loved it. I thought it was good. That's how all movies should be. No, it doesn't work.
Starting point is 01:29:07 That's how I feel. So I feel everybody should feel like that. See, that's the thing. It felt a lot like Oh Brother, We're Out Now. I've never seen that. But at least they went on an adventure in that movie. Yeah, right. The adventure was just like...
Starting point is 01:29:18 Sleeping on a couch. Sleeping on a couch a lot and hitchhiking in the cold. If you haven't seen that movie it's about oscar isaac two dudes from star wars that's true and they uh and they justin timberlake justin timberlake's also in it and oscar isaac he's a he's a folk musician in 1961 trying to trying to make it on his own but maybe he doesn't or he does or he does though that's the thing they did um they did that one the al caesar yeah which i think i like that a lot i've heard it was garbage but i really know That's the thing. They did that one. Hale Caesar with Alden Orenreich. I like that a lot.
Starting point is 01:29:47 I think it's me too. I heard it was garbage, but I really liked it. No, I liked it too. The musical number's really good in it too. Yeah, Channing Tatum. I actually played, there's a new video game coming out soon, or it's out now. Should we do a Coen Brothers podcast? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:58 Like quit this podcast and do a Coen Brothers podcast? What about we could call it O Coen Where Art Thou? Yeah. What do you think? Yeah. Hale Coen? O Brother Where Art the Coen Brothers podcast? What about we could call it O Coen Where Art Thou? Yeah. What do you think? Hail Coen? O Brother Where Art the Coen Brothers. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:09 The podcast. Yeah. These are all good ideas that we've had. I'm just looking at all their movies here. I haven't seen a bunch of these. I've never seen A Serious Man. It's a good one. Which one?
Starting point is 01:30:21 Who's in that one? Is it? Michael Stahlberg. Don't know all right yeah i'm not gonna a bunch of these i gotta watch for our new podcast yeah i'd rather it's the cohen brothers podcast yeah precisely uh i played the demo for the big cohen brothers brackets lebowski yeah i played the demo for detroit to become human okay now what's the deal with that i've heard some is that is it one of these interactive movies that I've heard so much about?
Starting point is 01:30:46 Yeah, so it's like your Heavy Rains or your... Is this by the same company as Heavy Rain? Yeah, it's David Cage, video game developer and CD bloke of real life. Yeah. He's done some shady stuff. Like, he put in a... Because Alan Page is in one of the games
Starting point is 01:30:59 and he made a nude model of her and put it in without... So this isn't the last... Because the last of us had a character that was basically Ellen Page, right? Yeah, but that's not... But it's not Ellen Page. But there was... This is like one of those Armageddon Deep Impact things.
Starting point is 01:31:13 It's exactly like that. But there was an actual video game with Ellen Page in it. Yeah, it's got Willem Dafoe and whatever. And also, I think she sued or something or she was... And then later, he was accused of being homophobic and he's like i'm friends with alan page now just to be clear this isn't that other guy because there's another video game that was upset in the future other blade runner blade runner one but then that that guy was also had a problem yeah that guy had some issues right yeah god so many of them but i
Starting point is 01:31:42 thought this was i played the demo and it's it's like a choose your own adventure within a world where there's robots but they're downtrodden so maybe it's racism yeah do you get it yeah it's a parallel mason i get it yeah yeah so but i'm not gonna get it i played it i'm like this is fine but i don't want this in my life so uh but if but if anybody's played it and people love, some people love those games, the Heavy Rains and whatever, but no, I don't think... It's like watching a movie that I don't really like. But also you have to push some buttons every once in a while. A lot of it is recreating crime scenes, it seems,
Starting point is 01:32:19 because one of them you're a crime scene guy. The branching narrative is really interesting to me because there's a few main characters and if you you kill one they're gone and the narrative just keeps keeps going as the other characters and there's some really good actors involved so maybe i'll get it when it's like 10 bucks but for the moment okay and i don't really have the time at the moment what a ringing endorsement what a good idea they've done to put that demo out yeah but i'd love to know people's thoughts though if they've if they've played these games and i don't think i could be turned around on them but i'd be interesting to know people's thoughts, though, if they've played these games. And I don't think I could be turned around on them, but I'd be interested to know what
Starting point is 01:32:46 people think of them in general. Yeah. Because people are very hard on Solo A Star Wars adventure. On the soul situation. Yeah, absolutely. Anything else that you're reading or not reading? No, that's about it, I think. Good.
Starting point is 01:32:56 Then I think we can safely say this is Letters. Time for Letters. The classic one was Letters, oh Letters, we love you. Some letters, they're only a day away. I know they're here right now, we're going to do letters. I didn't include this in the news because we got many a tweet. By the way, if you do want to reach the show, hashtag Weekly Planet Pod on Twitter, or shoot at Gmail over to weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com.
Starting point is 01:33:24 Or tweet at me at Wikipedia Brown with whatever that question was that I had earlier. Twitter or shoot at Gmail over to weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com. Or tweet at me at Wikipedia Brown with whatever that question was that I had earlier. Yeah, what was that? Some sort of hashtag. Yeah, I don't remember what it was. No. Someone will, though. Someone will.
Starting point is 01:33:36 This is from Nathan Gonzalez. He says, you've probably already heard of this, but is Etihad Stadium really going to be rebranded as Marvel Stadium? Yes, it is. Disney abotherites. They have. I think they're getting five years or something. Yeah, absolutely. They're everywhere, aren't they?
Starting point is 01:33:47 You can't escape them. A lot of money, those guys. Yeah. So what do you think of this, Mason? How do you feel about Marvel infiltrating your precious football? Yeah, I love it. Because also I don't love football. That's interesting, Mason.
Starting point is 01:34:01 Do you think it's a better name than Etihad Stadium? Yes. It's easier to say, certainly. Sure. Wasn't it Telstra Dome? It was Telstra Dome for a while, and then it was another one. that's interesting do you think it's a better name than Etihad Stadium yes it's hard it's easier to say certainly wasn't it Telstra Dome it was Telstra Dome for a while
Starting point is 01:34:08 and then it was another one a colonial it was Colonial Stadium so people who are up in arms are like how dare they it's not football a bank's not football either
Starting point is 01:34:18 a telephone company is not football either none of these things are football yeah so it's fine I think it just goes to show the reach of Disney and how they just goes to show the reach of disney
Starting point is 01:34:25 and how they just want to get in absolutely everything yeah i think it's quite clever so good honor mason marvels and apparently there's going to be like a marvel store or whatever and yeah right which i probably won't go to that that's great don't you think i can just buy stuff online yeah i can just look online and get that thing. I can get some Marvel branded football jerseys. Oh, that's fantastic. Yeah. I hope they rename all the teams as Disney princesses. People would lose their minds. All right.
Starting point is 01:34:53 What do we got here? Have you got a letter? I can do another letter. I'll find a letter. Here we go. Bloody. All right. I've got two here.
Starting point is 01:34:58 Quick update from Mike at Gimarnio. All right. We engineered his engagement, if you recall, Mike and Caitlin. That's true. We made that. We made that gold bread machine. They're closing in on their new home
Starting point is 01:35:08 on Friday the 25th. Whoa, okay. And it's also Mike's birthday on the 26th. Very good. Happy birthday, Mike. Now everyone can dox him. If you could, yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:16 Yeah. They're kicking around going to Australia for their honeymoon. Oh, really? Okay. If we're going to do a live show or something,
Starting point is 01:35:22 maybe we can time it out to be there. Don't do that. Time it out for summer. Yeah, time it out for a there. Don't do that. Time it out for summer. Yeah, time it out for a better time of year. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Definitely. Look, we're going to do something.
Starting point is 01:35:30 Now we've got a little away travel bags. That's true. We can go do a little more travel. We are talking about that, actually, yeah. But who knows whether it happens ever. Exactly. Also, can Mike be the official house painter of the podcast? Well, it depends.
Starting point is 01:35:41 Are you painting houses? Yeah, that's what I mean. I guess then yes. Even if you aren't, yes. Yeah, that's fair. That's true. Yeah. Second letter.
Starting point is 01:35:50 Oh, okay. It's from Patrick Webb. Hi guys, just saw an article from last year about James Gunn talking to David Hasselhoff about the Hoff's pitched Knight Rider film. What do you guys think could have worked if Gunn directed? Yes. But the Hoff's pitch is probably terrible oh yeah for sure yeah oh absolutely they already he came back for the tv he came back for the 2008
Starting point is 01:36:11 night rider reboot which had a very uncharismatic lead if i recall but he was so cool he was cool and blandly blandly handsome yeah and it was like a dodge charger that could it was what they did is they they built a car that could do literally anything yeah which is not interesting it was it was a dodge charger but could transform into any other car it's one of those who had like nanotechnology that's not interesting no that's just give it a couple of tricks and that's it give it a red light on the front give it a red light on the front the voice of will arnett have it be destroyed by a truck immediately just like in Magnum PI. That's what we want. I agree.
Starting point is 01:36:48 That's what we want. And there was also a reboot called Night Rider 2. We've got to wreck Knight Riders to make Knight Riders. Exactly. That's what they say.
Starting point is 01:36:54 Keep going. There was also a reboot I think in the 90s called Knight Rider 2000 where David Hasselhoff was in that. Oh, was there?
Starting point is 01:37:01 I can't remember that. The kit computer, the original one, was plugged into a future car from the year 2000 awful so it's probably one of those weird bubble cars it was like a bubble i think it was a light blue bubble car of some yeah that's the minority report era of yeah we have bubble cars yeah no good yeah great uh no i don't want that at all you don't want james gunderecking no i want him to do something he wants to do. I don't think Hasselhoff would be in it.
Starting point is 01:37:27 No, I think he would. I think he could not. Turns out he was in Baywatch. What? I know. I watched that Baywatch reboot. The new one? The Rock Zac Efron one.
Starting point is 01:37:36 Oh, right. Isn't that crap? It's fine. Okay. Yeah. I mean, if you're expecting the- Does he play Mitch in it? Yes, he does.
Starting point is 01:37:44 But he and The Rock are both called Mitch. It's one of those in-jokes, I think. It's a Mitch-off. It's a Mitch-off. It's like the end of Starsky and Hutch. Exactly. If you're expecting the dizzying heights of the Baywatch TV series, you're probably disappointed, so I understand.
Starting point is 01:37:56 I bet it's better than the TV series. No, absolutely, it's better than the TV series. Great, good stuff. Look, I would love to see that. I would love to see Knight Rider done well. would love to see a Knight Rider done well. Yeah. But not Starsky and Hutch style or whatever. I think...
Starting point is 01:38:08 But what's interesting about a guy with a kind of okay car? But what's exciting about a raccoon that can stand on his hind legs and... Everything. I know. What are you talking about? That's what I'm saying. What's interesting about a twig man? Again, that's every...
Starting point is 01:38:23 Lots of stuff. Yeah, right? Interesting. I'm not saying it can't be done it can yeah but i just don't think it's a super interesting premise that's true anymore a car that talks we all our cars talk it's whoa maybe that's the trick so everyone's got a night maybe it's a car that doesn't everyone's fighting no that's okay it's just this car is silent it's a silent killer this car that's the trick it's a silent killer, this car. That's the trick.
Starting point is 01:38:45 It's the car from Christine. You notice it only because it doesn't talk. Okay, good. Okay, Charlie Newman said on Twitter, hashtag Weekly Planet Pod, genuine question, can you please tell me why you are against a Yoda film? Thanks.
Starting point is 01:38:57 Were we against a Yoda film? I think I am. I am, probably. I think my opinion changes every week. I think it depends on how you do it. But if you did it, say, solo, what are you doing it for? Are you expanding the universe in a meaningful way?
Starting point is 01:39:13 Is it just like a paint-by-numbers series of events where he ends up getting his lightsaber at the end or whatever? Yeah, right. I think anything can work, but it's not really something that... I kind of want to see it move forward in time as opposed to go back. How old's Yoda? Is he 800 or 900? Both. Depending on when in the story.
Starting point is 01:39:29 When I ask the question, that's probably true. But I guess my question is, the thing about him having 900 years of wisdom is that we can imagine what that wisdom is and the adventures he's been on. And if you give him a solo movie where just some dumb stuff happens, what's the reason to be gained from that? But I don't think it would probably... Because there's been some prequel comics of late which have been okay, where they've set in that kind of era.
Starting point is 01:39:56 I think there's definitely a story you could tell. It also depends if they're doing The Old Republic. You could set it... It's normally like thousands of years ago, but you could set it 700 years in the thousands of years ago but you could set it 700 years in the past yeah right and put him in it or yeah whatever he's a sprightly 200 year old man exactly so no i'm not necessarily against i just it's not the kind of story that i'm really interested in but right anything can be good or bad that's very true like a low hum yeah like a
Starting point is 01:40:21 low hum kind of situation yeah i mean we haven't experienced that this week but yeah maybe maybe you just gotta listen for it mason listen for the snores and you can hear it it's just not really that good a film that's pretty good i like it i like it i think it's fun it's a rollicking thriller ride rollicking my foot just to see like it was it felt like a checklist of things i think i'm becoming that guy. You know, there's that guy, Armand White. He's a film reviewer. He's the worst guy. Well, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:40:49 All his reviews are all white. I don't know if he still reviews, but every review is just contrary to everybody else. Yeah. And I'm... I don't think you're contrary. I think a lot of people agree with you. But I'm also thinking that maybe this is how it starts. Oh.
Starting point is 01:41:01 You get a taste for it. Yeah. You get it. You're like, hey, today, you're like, my opinion's a bit different this week but that's okay you know people get it and then you then you're like oh i love that my opinion's different and then you just have to force your way into the country there are definitely people on the internet like that yeah right yeah but you would not be not at home joining that joining the ranks mason all right i think that's the show for this week the show uh before we let's do the sign off Mason, we just want to let people know we're going to be
Starting point is 01:41:29 trialing a thing for the network of pre-roll ads, I guess kind of like they have on YouTube. Not a bunch, but just to get people some little bit of extra money for advertising dollars. Yeah, right. So you might hear some of those on the podcasts on the network, those who are deciding to to use it because there's some who are undecided and some who are very keen. That's all up in the air, but just wanted to give people the heads up for that. And it's all mostly just bills paying. There's a lot of hosting costs that we kind of, because as a podcast gets bigger and the network gets bigger that we're covering. So that'll be part of that.
Starting point is 01:42:03 And we've got a lot of crazy pyramid schemes to get in on board for us yeah but it's also for people to get a little bit of extra coin helping out those little guys also you can skip
Starting point is 01:42:12 a moniker that's fine also it's irrelevant to me yeah sure yeah alright do the end of the show Mason
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Starting point is 01:42:35 he's doing great stuff he is doing great stuff there's also Caravan of Garbage this week where we look at the TV show Droids again
Starting point is 01:42:43 yeah which has a lot of parallels to Solo, this particular episode. It's not a good one though, is it? It's very bad. Yeah. Let's see, what else? You can go to planetbroadcasting.com.
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Starting point is 01:43:17 Get them on a HD format if you want to debate us endlessly about whether they've ruined Rebels with this Darth Maul appearance. Oh, we should talk about that. James feels they have. We should talk about... I'm indifferent. We should talk about that tweet after you doul appearance. Oh, we should talk about that. James feels they have. We should talk about, I mean, different. We should talk about that tweet after you do all this.
Starting point is 01:43:28 Oh, yeah, we do that. Yeah, okay, we'll do that. Let's see what else. We've got some t-shirts on tpublic.com. Thank you to The Brute and Basilisk and Rackham for all our themes. So good. That's about it, I think. That is about it.
Starting point is 01:43:44 Yeah, it's always about it yeah so something later so these tweet okay so both of us retweeted a tweet i didn't realize you'd retweeted it also well i did all right separately in feeds uh scott ockerman of uh comedy bang bang and are you talking you two to me yeah the podcast about you two with adam scott and it's sequel podcast are you talking rem re me both of which are great uh he's he's got he's put this on his twitter it just about you too with Adam Scott. And it's a sequel podcast, Are You Talking R.E.M. Rimi, both of which are great. He's put this on his Twitter. It just says Star Wars films,
Starting point is 01:44:16 and then he's just listed the films in the order of the year that they came out. But he's put numbers next to each of them. And it's broken people's minds. Because a lot of people are reading it as... He's ranked them in terms of quality so solo is last in front of the last jedi and whatever uh-huh but also a lot of people are also just pointing out that hey you just put that in order yeah so just let it lie you don't have to say anything i can also see funny i can see though this is the best tweet he's ever done yeah he's done some good probably the best tweet i've ever seen it's so simple yeah it's one of these things where i should have thought of this yeah right it's so simple and clever yeah but he
Starting point is 01:44:49 um like there's people arguing with him they're like but the clone wars is terrible and he's like yeah i know yeah but it's like but the last jedi is great he's like i know i love this so yeah but i could also understand why you'd be tricked by this. So quality. Because it took me a second to be like, what is this? Yeah, right. It's quality work. It's great. So good on him. Anything else?
Starting point is 01:45:11 No. No, that's it. All right. Cool, cool, cool. Now, next week, it'll be another episode. Another episode. We're certainly not ruling it out, are we? No, we definitively can't
Starting point is 01:45:25 yeah I'm sorry if this episode's late I had to go to a funeral so uh blame the person who died I'll give you their grave if you want okay good
Starting point is 01:45:34 I shouldn't joke Mason but I have yeah yeah that's it that's the show some people deal with that sort of stuff
Starting point is 01:45:40 in different ways yeah some people can't process their emotions that's true so they make a little joke. Funny little joke. It's a funny little joke, isn't it, everybody? Yeah, that's it.
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