The Weekly Planet - 245 Mission: Impossible Fallout is...

Episode Date: July 30, 2018

It’s Mission: Impossible the fifth one Fallout week big time! It’s also the week we talk about naming the DC movie universe, Locke & Key, Deadwood returning , casting for the Joker solo movie ...and MIB the new and finally X-Men movie being binned mate. Thanks for listening!0:00 The start of the show4:30 DC Universe named (finally)10:16 Locke & Key at Netflix13:22 Deadwood/Frasier/Cheers18:29 Joker casting22:47 MIB reboot not a reboot24:49 X-men are cancelled maybe33:01 Mission: Impossible Fallout (spoilers 51:-31 till the end of poddo)1:04:37 What We Reading/What We Gonna Read1:07:43 Letters It’s Time For LettersBuy Mission Impossible 1-6 on Amazon: https://amzn.to/2o7d2SkThe Weekly Planet YouTube Channel: https://goo.gl/1ZQFGH Find ou T-Shirts here: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. This episode is brought to you by Mr. Coyer Shirts, but not just any shirts, is it, Mason? Shirts. The most self-indulgent shirts of them all. Shirts with our faces on them. That's right. Not self-indulgent for anybody else, specifically us.
Starting point is 00:00:18 Because they relate to this show. What are the shirts about? They're all about... There's a limited time! It ends on the 31st! That's the cut-off for pre-order! If you're on the fence, get off the bloody fence! What are you even doing on a fence?
Starting point is 00:00:32 What are you doing on the fence, mate? What are you doing? You've got to jump off the fence, mate! Yes or no? They're demolishing the fence! They're building a parking structure! Get off the fence, you're doomed, mate! But sorry, go on. I was going to say, they're great shirts. They're eth a parking structure. Get off the fence, you doomed mates. But sorry, go on.
Starting point is 00:00:45 I was going to say, they're great shirts. They're ethically manufactured. You pay a little extra, but that's all worth it for all the workers keeping their hands and eyes. And it's also, you pay a little extra because they're good quality shirts. They're so good. They've got a thousand year guarantee. What? Yeah, so if your great, great, great, great grandchildren aren't happy with the quality of that shirt, guess what?
Starting point is 00:01:05 They can go to the great-great-great-grandchildren of Mr. Coyier. That's right. Uh-huh, yeah. The dynasty. Exactly, the dynasty. And get their money back. I mean, store credit. That's right.
Starting point is 00:01:15 They get store credit. And also, you can't prove that that's not true, because we'll all be dead. Some of you will be dead. Yes. You'll be dead. Yeah, we'll be dead. Wait, you won't be dead? You'll be dead. You'll be dead. Yeah, we'll be dead. Wait, you won't be dead? You'll be dead.
Starting point is 00:01:26 You'll be dead. Okay, I'll be dead. It's a Weekly Planet shirt. It's got some little Easter eggs on there. It's got some... It's not plastered with our faces, but there are definitely hints towards us. They're not not on there.
Starting point is 00:01:36 Yeah, that's right. I'll tell you what. But that's all linked below. 31st of July is the cutoff, which is a Tuesday. So get in quick. So by the time this goes out. Oh, you'll have to get in.
Starting point is 00:01:47 Yeah, that's right. But that's linked below if you want to check it out. But I want everybody to have a good episode. That includes you, Mason. Thank you. Even though you want me dead for some reason. I didn't say I wanted you dead. I'm saying you're inevitably going to die, but I'm not going to die.
Starting point is 00:01:58 Why are you not going to die? Good healthy habits. You don't have any healthy habits. I've never seen you eat anything. That's what I'm saying. It's your healthy habits that are going to do you in. That's probably true actually, because I got very sick this week and I'm still in the midst of it. But anyway, now's not the time Mason.
Starting point is 00:02:11 No body fat, that's why. That's probably true. We're still in the ad though. We're still in the ad, let's do the show. Red hot comic book movie news. Shooting up your butthole. The Weekly Planet hole The Weekly Planet The Weekly Planet
Starting point is 00:02:26 Welcome back everybody to another episode of The Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday. With me is always my co-host, Nick Mason. I'm doing it quickly, Mason, because I don't have time this week. This might run a little bit short this episode because I don't have time this week and I'm very sick. You're running, but the explanation of that has actually made it longer.
Starting point is 00:02:44 No, no, it wasn't because I did the intro shorter and then this explanation will bring it up to about normal time. Terrific. So if we keep talking about it during the intro, does that mean we have to shorten? We have to shorten other things. Other elements of the show. I'm going to take out theme songs. I'm just going to edit out most of the things you say. Fair enough. Yep. Okay. What? You don't do that ordinarily? i've said a lot of weird stuff honestly i was under i was doing this under the impression it was just going to be you talking for 200 episodes i don't like this new revelation at all guys listen if you're out there and you've listened to the show from the beginning just to be clear i didn't want any of this out here so if you're listening to
Starting point is 00:03:20 this now don't did you assume that it was just, so I'd edit out you, and what just went out was just a madman having a conversation to nobody? Yeah, for sure. With a whole lot of jokes that have no context. Yes. And laughter and nonsense that just mean nothing to nobody. That would be incredible, though, wouldn't it? And the show got successful based on that.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Yes. Okay, all right, sure. You said it was going to be called The Diary of a Madman. So, yeah, I'll be away by the time this goes out. Also, we should specify that... This is a Friday report. This is a Friday episode, so there's probably going to be some news that we probably won't talk about. And I've also kept the news just a little bit short and sweet, Mason.
Starting point is 00:03:58 Well, also, I mean, maybe nothing will happen this weekend. Last week was a huge weekend for stuff. It was a bonzer weekend for content. So maybe this will be a drongo weekend for content. I hope so. Which is to say specifically not as much content. Not as much content. Well, speaking of content though, Macy's,
Starting point is 00:04:12 this is a bit of a hangover from Comic-Con. Bless you. Thank you. As of last week, Comic-Con. Yes. Oh, woo. Ah! All right, okay.
Starting point is 00:04:23 There we go. They're the two standard responses. I want that to be worked into Hall H. I want some woos. I want some screaming. Yep. That's what I want. We forgot to mention this, but the DC extended...
Starting point is 00:04:34 That means that last week it was just you going, so there was a Venom trailer. Ah! That's all people heard. Yeah, that's right. So the DC has been referred to as... The world of worlds of DC? Now it's the worlds of DC.
Starting point is 00:04:48 Yeah, it's been officially titled. It only took them five years, but they've decided upon a name. Yep. I don't mind it because it kind of implies that you can do multiple parallel dimensions. Yeah, and continuity isn't an issue, really. But it doesn't shorten well. No, it doesn't. Like the MCU is easy to say.
Starting point is 00:05:04 It's not an acronym yeah exactly it's wadik or two dick oh two dick the two dick universe because there's two jokers oh i was gonna say no wonder why no one of the men all behave strangely in that universe it's not just those movies are not just dick measuring competitions they're double dick measuring competitions. All right, we've done it. It's called the two dick universe. Why would they set it up like that?
Starting point is 00:05:29 I don't know. What were they thinking? I don't mind the name. You check all the acronyms before you do it. You check literally everything and you check any possible, you know what you do? You take it down to a high school, you put it out there and you see what comes out. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:42 And the same deal is if you get a personalized license plate. How it works is whatever the worst interpretation of it is, is what it is. So if you think of a funny acronym, you put it on your license plates and people think of a real dumb interpretation, that's what it is. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Because that's what people are going to say. On the way to the cinema today to see Mission Impossible, Tom Cruise, when's he going to stop? Can't be stopped. Can't be stopped. Doesn't stop at any point we'll never stop straight as an arrow that man like you wouldn't believe he's drawn along by his single front tooth like a magnet like a homing pigeon that heads unerringly to north or whatever they do he's just drawn in unerringly towards action with his single magnetic front tooth. What were we going with this? I was saying, I think I saw a number plate that said all in. I could have said Al in, but it was definitely two words.
Starting point is 00:06:33 It was either Al in or all in. Why would it be Al in? That's what I'm saying. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. That's incredible. So if you're out there. If you are Al in.
Starting point is 00:06:42 Yeah. Let us know. If you're Al in two dicks. Yeah. Let us know. Yeah're Al-In 2 dicks Yeah let us know Let us know yeah What's going on If you're Juilliard Educated actor Al-In 2 dicks
Starting point is 00:06:52 Yes Please let us know Please let us know But no I like the name To be honest Yeah yeah Worlds of DC It makes sense
Starting point is 00:06:58 You know it's It's fine I mean It took them long enough You know what I feel like I feel like they went What should we call it and then they went
Starting point is 00:07:07 because it's an alternate continuity to DC I reckon they were going to call it DC Elseworlds but then what do you call the regular stuff that's what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:07:15 yeah okay right I reckon they were like let's call it Elseworlds because then we can differentiate it from the regular universe then we can do stuff like have Batman machine gun
Starting point is 00:07:23 people or whatever yeah yeah and they went but then that would that confuse people who like the comic book else worlds and they went on just call it worlds of dc two dicks just do it they could have called it dc worlds i don't know it doesn't matter they could have just continued to not name it i think that would have worked yeah that would have been i mean we got the we got the perfectly usable acronym exactly dick here but now it's too late now it's too late so this wasn't in the news and i can't that would have worked also. Yeah, that would have been. I mean, we got the perfectly usable acronym. Exactly. DECK HERE.
Starting point is 00:07:46 But now it's too late. Now it's too late. So this wasn't in the news, and I can't believe I'm adding it, Mason, because there's already so much news. But did you see there was a bit of a, there was a few films announced for next year for animated. One of them was The Reign of the Supermen.
Starting point is 00:07:58 So they're doing that. Oh, so the... The fill-in Superman. Okay, sure, right. Have you seen the new Doomsday one? Apparently it's okay. Okay, good. But it's the new Doomsday one? Apparently it's okay. Okay, good. But it's okay.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Terrific. Wait, is this just Death of Superman? So this is the continuation of that. Yes. Another one they mentioned is Hush. They're doing Hush. Okay, great. Which I'd definitely be interested in seeing.
Starting point is 00:08:17 So that's exciting. That's all the news. So do you know anything about the Doomsday one? Do you know who's the voice? Is it the Superman from the cut? I don't know. I think it... It's always just some somewhat famous rando.
Starting point is 00:08:32 Have you noticed now? Let's have a look. It should be the main guy, but I don't know. Rainn Wilson is Lex Luthor. Okay, I can say that. Oh, Jerry O'Connell. Oh, yeah. That is a rando famous-ish guy.
Starting point is 00:08:43 That is rando famous, but he was also... He's done it before, hasn't he? No, he was Shazam in the... There's one Superman vs. Shazam or Captain Marvel episode of Justice League, which was a real nightmare to put together, apparently, because of rights issues with
Starting point is 00:08:57 Captain Marvel and animation or whatever. But Jerry O'Connell was Billy Batson and Shazam. Okay, sure. Jason O'Mara is Batman as well. I like his Batman. Cool. Is that a... Did you say Jason Momoa? Yeah, Jason Momoa.
Starting point is 00:09:10 My man! Huh. Double difference. Jason O'Mara. Oh, okay, yeah, yeah. Life on Mars. Yeah, okay, I get it. But not the one that...
Starting point is 00:09:16 The good one. Yeah, right. The other one. Terranova's Jason... You're reading directly from his IMDB there. The one his publicist put out. You know, from Life on Mars, not the good one. The one where they're literally on Mars at the end.
Starting point is 00:09:27 That was the twist, remember? Yeah. They took that a little too literally. I don't know. I can't remember what I've said previously on this podcast about that. I don't mind that. It's fine. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:09:38 What was the other one? What was the other version? It was on the way to purgatory or something. Yeah. No, he was on the way to hell. That's right. Spoiler alert for the British TV series Life on Mars and the sequel Ashes to Ashes.
Starting point is 00:09:51 Which is also a prequel? No, it's 10 years after. It's 10 years after in the 80s. Sorry, keep going, sorry. But the twist is, at the end of Life on Mars, it's ambiguous as to where he ends up. But in Ashes to Ashes, they go, no, he's definitively this particular thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:08 And that's where... He's not in hell. He's in hell, Mason. He's not in hell. He's on Mars. Oh, he's on Mars. Yeah, yeah. Life is on Mars.
Starting point is 00:10:14 He's a ghost from Mars, yeah. Yeah, that's right. Netflix, though, has ordered 10 episodes of Lock and Key. Oh, yeah. This has been a long time coming. They've even filmed a pilot, which I think you could find online for one of the versions they were going to make at some point
Starting point is 00:10:27 I remember when I read this a couple years ago whenever I read it by the way it's great it's a great comic everyone should read it there's a lot there's a lot
Starting point is 00:10:35 I was going to say into 10 episodes if I was going to say it would have to be seasons obviously 10 seasons of episodes 10 seasons but each season
Starting point is 00:10:43 gets more episodes until you've got 100 episodes. Okay, great. Until you've got 100 episodes in season 10. Great. Okay. No, I'm saying there's a lot of special effects and craziness and madness and people unlocking their minds with keys and giants and fairies and magic and wizards and people changing sex and all sorts of stuff.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Anyway, but sorry, go on. No, that's all I had. I was going to say exactly the same things that you did. Oh, okay, yeah. And if I said it said it now you just have to edit it out so why give you more work you know well mason i can't believe you said a thing that was equally interesting if not more interesting than mine i'll definitely leave all that in yes i feel confident no lock and key sounds good though yeah i'd be interested to see. Well, I think Netflix are... I think they're in a...
Starting point is 00:11:26 Not in a panic, but they're in a bit of a transitional period away from the Disney Marvel stuff. They're in an experimental period. They've got a whole lot of Mark Millar stuff on the way, including... What's the one? Superheroes, but they're like the kids of superheroes
Starting point is 00:11:40 and they're kind of... They're all Paris Hilton types, but then they have to save the world or whatever. Jupiter's something? Yeah, that one. Jupiter's Legacy. Yeah, okay. they have to save the world jupiter something yeah that one jupiter's legacy yeah okay and i think steven ester knight is doing that one who did the first season of daredevil which i think is a good do you think this is a function of do you think maybe they're a bit hamstrung with the marvel stuff because they kind of marvel's like you have to make it like this potentially yeah yeah and in and in doing so
Starting point is 00:12:02 they've driven a lot of viewers away because they're like, these are too long and boring and we don't like them. Potentially. And then so maybe they're like, well, if we use Mark Miller or we use... And we use our own money or... Yeah, yeah. Well, they own Miller World now, so they can do anything. There you go, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:16 So if they want to make changes, they want to trim it or pad it out or whatever, they can do whatever they want. That's it. They're also doing Empress as well. Cool. So they've got a bunch of stuff happening. It's another Mark Miller one. But no,
Starting point is 00:12:27 I'd be very excited to see Lock and Key. I've been meaning to reread that, but at the same time, there's so much content. There's so much content, yeah. Is it too much?
Starting point is 00:12:34 Yeah. Okay. Let's halve the content. What do you think? How so? We've got to go door to door and destroy copies. Of Lock and Key?
Starting point is 00:12:43 No, of everything. Half of everything. Wow. This is a real Infinity War kind of situation, isn't it? No, of everything. Half of everything. Wow. This is a real Infinity War kind of situation, isn't it? It is, yes. Wow. Do you have a better idea of how to do it? I guess we could get a mob.
Starting point is 00:12:53 I mean, we could start a mob like a mafia crime syndicate. We could just get a big mob, like a big mob of people to help us and go door-to-door and smash half of everything. Yep. Do you agree with that? I was thinking maybe we could build some sort of device to do it all in one but i can't do that i don't know how that works it's easy to rally them all it's i was gonna say right i don't know i don't know the first thing about artifacts and quantum mechanics and whatever that just we'll get some
Starting point is 00:13:19 get some mates to just smash some stuff smash some stuff you stuff. You're a Deadwood fan? No. I'm not a Deadwood non-fan. I've just never really got around to it, no. No, okay. So they... My understanding of Deadwood is it's got Timothy Oliphant... And Swearing. And Swearing. They're the two stars, Timothy Oliphant and Swearing.
Starting point is 00:13:35 They've updated the Swearing for the modern day, haven't they? Yeah. Because they use modern swearing, and the reason they do that is because 100 or 200 years ago, whenever that... Whenever Deadwood is set, the show I also haven't seen, you know, when you say damn and God, those were big deals. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:13:52 But those are now your F-bombs and your C-bombs of today. Yeah. So they've jazzed it up. Oh. They've zhuzhed it up a little bit. Just a little bit. Oh, wow. A little bit of heat, you know?
Starting point is 00:14:02 Okay. But I think there were some F-bombs back in the day. Were there? Yeah, I think so. Okay. Is that your news? Is that the news you have there? That's my news.
Starting point is 00:14:11 Oh, right. What do you think? Do you think it was worth putting in? Do you think I could have skipped it? But there's a movie coming out. Is that the news? Oh, yeah. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:14:16 There's two bits of news. Okay. We can talk about the movie if you want. Yep. There is one. Terrific. It's that. The production's starting in October.
Starting point is 00:14:23 People have been calling for this, haven't they? Because apparently it doesn't end properly. Look, I don't know. That's what I'm saying, Mason. We're digging ourselves into a hole here. We don't know. Well, the only reason I haven't watched it is because I vaguely heard that it doesn't end properly.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Okay. So I'm like, well, I'm not getting into that. And plus it's got modern swearing, which you don't care for. I don't care for it, Mason. You don't give a good goldarn for it. I don't. Darn tootin'. Thank you. Darn tootin thank you darn tootin i couldn't
Starting point is 00:14:46 think of anything i could only think of really horrible words yep to say yeah yeah so no i think that's good i mean everything's getting a revival phrases coming back maybe frazier's coming back i said frazier i have a friend called frazier so i said frazier you mean Prime Minister Malcolm Frasier? I mean Prime Minister Malcolm Frasier. Okay, all right. You're a Frasier fan. Malcolm Frasier? No, Frasier, the show. The TV show Frasier. Yes, yes, I do.
Starting point is 00:15:14 I'm a big fan. Okay, cool. But the dad died, so. Well, that's the thing. That's what people are saying. Do you bring it back? Do you, specifically? I mean, we're smashing half the content.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Do you smash the Frasier revival? If I'm going to take it away, I better give it. So I guess I'll reboot Frasier. Yeah, right. Well, that story wrapped up, didn't it? I mean, Niall's got married. Some of them had kids, maybe. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:15:39 Is the dog probably dead, I assume? They can replace the dog. Yeah, but realistically. Things they can't replace. The dad, the dad's chair. They can replace the dog. Yeah, but real, like, realistically. Things they can't replace. The dad, the dad's chair. Everything else replaceable. Roz, replace her. They can't replace Roz.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Pitbull, replace him. Was that his name? Who? Pitbull. It was a guy. Oh, I thought you meant the rapper. Irreplaceable. It's like, was he in that show?
Starting point is 00:16:01 There was a guy in... I know who you're talking about. The bald guy, right? Yeah. Yeah, I know who you're talking about. Yeah, guy, right? Yeah. Yeah, I know who you're talking about. Yeah, right. Did Frasier end up married at the end or with a lady friend? He didn't end up with rods or anything, did he?
Starting point is 00:16:12 I don't think so. Yeah. Frasier heads out there. If you know different, let us know. You definitely know different. We could look it up, but we're not going to look it up. But does that leave the door open for Cheers? Would you like to see a Cheers revival get dancing back?
Starting point is 00:16:23 Oh, I thought you were going to... Most of them are alive. Does it leave the door open for this... for Frasier to segue into Cheers? Yeah. The new season of Frasier
Starting point is 00:16:33 set in 2018 segues into the 1980s TV show. Back into Cheers. He just lets his hair... Frasier just lets his hair grow out until it's that weird
Starting point is 00:16:40 bald mullet. And then he just steps down into the Cheers bar. At its Cheers again. Woody Harrelson's back. Yeah. Is it and then he just steps down into the cheers bar and it's Woody Harrison's back yeah is it sad though if you go back to the bar and it's been well 30 years now longer nearly 40 years depending when cheers started mid-80s I assume yeah I guess yeah that means Kelsey Graham was like 25 I guess, he was. Wow. So was Woody Harrelson. I guess.
Starting point is 00:17:06 He would have had to have been 14. He shouldn't have been tending bar. Absolutely. But is it sad, though, to go back and... But doesn't Cheers also end? I'm asking you this knowing you don't know this. Yep. Where Ted Danson's like,
Starting point is 00:17:18 I'm the luckiest son of a bitch in the world. Because he doesn't get back to go play professional ball or whatever. He's just happy being with his mates, running a bar. Let's say it is. Isn't this about comic book movies to show? Not anymore. It's the Ted Dancer report. It's the Frasier report.
Starting point is 00:17:35 All right, I've got to throw in some comic book movies. All right, hang on. I'm just trying to think if I have any Cheers-related thoughts. Is it sad? I guess... Not if everyone's happy doing what they're doing. Yeah. But, I mean, if if Norm Did Norm die?
Starting point is 00:17:46 I don't think so Wow Wait in the show Or in real life? No I think they're all alive Wow Wait did Norm die? Just go into
Starting point is 00:17:54 Just go into I'm thinking of John Ratzenberg Did he die? No he still does Yeah He still shows up in like Go to Google and just type in
Starting point is 00:18:00 Is Norm still alive? Or did Norm die? No Okay Hang on Cheers Cast Thank God we're keeping this Google and just type in, is Norm still alive? Did Norm die? No. Okay. Hang on. Cheers, cast. Thank God we're keeping this episode short.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Concise. Keeping it pithy. No, he's alive. He's only 69 years old. Nice. What are you laughing at? Nothing. Did you think of a funny thing?
Starting point is 00:18:23 No, a man's hale and hearty, and I'm enjoying that. I had a little laugh. Just how good's life, you know? How good is life? So good. I think most of them are alive. Here's some comic book movie news, Mason. Thank God. Robert De Niro.
Starting point is 00:18:33 Yes. World famous actor. It's pronounced Robert De Niro. Sorry. Let me continue. Robert De Niro is in talks for the Joker movie. Now you might be thinking which joker movie james yes thank you whom of which joker do you think i was gonna play along but then uh it's got to be
Starting point is 00:18:52 the is it it's the one i'm thinking right uh what which one is it the scorsese one okay and off the back of this i uh i watched you know when you have like weird kind of you're half in and out of things hallucination sick and it's kind of You're half in and out of things Hallucination sick This kind of Yeah sure I watched The King of No see that's the thing I've never been that healthy
Starting point is 00:19:10 I've never done that I've never done that amount of CrossFit So I've never had that weird hallucination Where I'm so healthy that I'm delirious But continue But he The King of Comedy Yes
Starting point is 00:19:22 Which is a Scorsese film from the 80s Which apparently Elements of this movie is based off like a weird lunatic comedian. Have you seen it? I have seen The King of Comedy. That's a great movie, by the way. I assume, from what I can remember of it. I really enjoyed it.
Starting point is 00:19:36 It's very dark and I can see how elements of that could definitely translate. But then I also think, if you're just going gonna do that but the joker why are you doing this maybe it's some sort maybe it's a some sort of what if it was a shot for shot remake of the king of comedy but it's the joker that's dumb but that'd be wild wouldn't it no it came out and there was this weird like across the world there was this weird realization that it was just the king of comedy well it didn't do very well i don't think a lot of people have seen it so i don't think anybody would notice, to be honest. It bombed hard.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Certainly most comic book fans, especially young comic book fans, wouldn't have seen it. These kids don't know, do they, Mason? I think they could totally do it. They're too busy playing their Tamagotchis or whatever they are too. That's right. They're too busy slapping their slap bands. Oh, look, I slapped it.
Starting point is 00:20:19 Yeah, we get it, mate. You slapped your slap band. We know. Yeah. Wait, so. Well, the role he's going to play, apparently, this might be speculation or it might be real.
Starting point is 00:20:28 I looked this up in my weird healthy, CrossFit haze, that he's going to play the Jerry Lewis character. Yep. The head of the talk show who gets harassed, harassed by Joaquin Phoenix for fear of spoiling a king of comedy, which I will a little bit here. It kind of ends,
Starting point is 00:20:47 and it might be real or not, but most of it seems real, where he gets to do his comedy performance, the Robert De Niro character, after pushing and pushing to do it. And he's a weird lunatic. And it goes very well. But I wonder what happens if
Starting point is 00:20:59 the first half of the movie is that, and he does his comedy performance, and it just bombs. And that kind of... Right. And then his family dies, and he falls in comedy performance and it just bombs and that kind of right and then his family dies and he falls in acid or whatever
Starting point is 00:21:08 yeah for sure you know yeah yeah well I'm my assumption would be that this is just going to be more or less
Starting point is 00:21:15 a retelling of The Killing Joke yeah right yeah I mean it's got that vibe seems that way but mixed with this movie
Starting point is 00:21:22 King of Comedy I didn't think his stand up was very good in the movie never is it's one of those things yeah yeah it's really bad i mean all comedy like you look at a lot of older stand-up comedy it's it's really good comedy does not age well but boy it's and it also feels like he's standing in front of nobody doing it to camp because he's just in front
Starting point is 00:21:43 of a yeah no waving his arms. And it's difficult to do. If you're not a comedian, you haven't been doing it for 10 years. But even that, but I mean, it could be written. It could be written. You could get actual comedians to write it, and that could make it good. But at the same time, it's difficult to show that
Starting point is 00:21:59 because people's enjoyment of comedy is so subjective. You might be like, and here's the scene where he does his stand-up routine and everybody loves it. And then you show this to audiences and they're like, I don't think that was funny. Yeah, right. So it never ever works. Well, this is why it will work in the Joker movie. Because it doesn't have to be good. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:22:18 Yeah. So that's... Look, they're certainly bloody rolling the dice on this, aren't they? They're giving it a red hot go. But you know what? This movie has the tenacity of Tom Cruise and his tooth just going right in the one direction. That's right. But I mean, you know what?
Starting point is 00:22:35 They've got billions of dollars and the rights to all these characters. Just keep churning them out. And they've also named the universe now. Yeah. Somebody's at the ship or something. Somebody's at the front of the ship. The Tudyk's universe. That's right.
Starting point is 00:22:48 Emma Thompson is going to return as Agent O for the new Men in Black movie, confirming that it is not in fact a sequel. No, a reboot. But a sequel. A denero. But a sequel. It's a sequel. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:01 Which I think is a good idea. I think Sony probably learned a lesson from making ghostbusters reboot and uh yeah i think that's probably does that mean will smith cameo no maybe who cares did you like he maybe he wants to gain i reckon he would probably want to regain some ground after bright probably well he's vlogging now did you see what he's on youtube doing all sorts of stuff. He dropped in with Casey Neistat. You know who that is?
Starting point is 00:23:28 I've heard the name, yes. There you go. Wow. That means you're living, mate. Wow. You're on the pulse. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:34 Just get off your Tamagotchi for a second. Just look at YouTube for once in your life, Mason. God, you son of a bitch. Sorry, I just had a drink of water. Nice. I'm as healthy as a dog, mate. Tell you that much Tell you that many things
Starting point is 00:23:46 Do you care about Men in Black? Yeah kind of Did you see 2 and 3? I've seen 2 Have you seen 3? No It's fine Great
Starting point is 00:23:53 Josh Brolin's in it Oh yeah It's time travel Yeah alright I'll watch it You don't have to I probably won't You really don't One's the only one probably worth watching
Starting point is 00:24:03 And also that weird cartoon from the 90s. Yeah. Which I remember being weird and also good. I think I have the role playing game somewhere. You would, no? Yeah. I bet you played every night with your dumb dad. That's good stuff.
Starting point is 00:24:17 I don't know why I said that. It's mean. It's mean, but it's a good shot. I also think I have... Well, that's the thing. Because it's one of those things where I think I got that and I got the original Malibu Comics version. Right, okay.
Starting point is 00:24:29 Where the Will Smith guy's like a blonde white dude instead. Yeah, yeah. I have that somewhere, but maybe I threw it... You know how you just arbitrarily throw some stuff away at some points? Yeah, absolutely. And maybe it went in the bin. You just go, yeah, no one's ever going to need this. And then I bend it.
Starting point is 00:24:41 Which is probably true, though. Oh, absolutely. I mean, if I really want it, I can just go comiXology and buy it oh exactly yeah i wouldn't mind actually revisiting some of that stuff now we've got one more bit of news though mason i'm ready it's for this is a rumor relating to the x-men but it is from a garbage source i think i know what this is so it's probably can i is it the one unconfirmed source or something yeah it's unconfirmed source it is I believe yes
Starting point is 00:25:06 that that Disney's acquisition of Fox yes made they're they're
Starting point is 00:25:12 they're getting everything and their plan is to dump new mutants and Dark Phoenix right just throw them away just get rid of them
Starting point is 00:25:20 just bit them mate wow which I think we've suggested before to just to do because why would you release them if you own them? But do you think they're not going to be good, are they? We've had people write in who've seen these.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Yep. And the best responses have been, because of test screenings, by the way. Yeah, right, right. The best responses have been lukewarm. To be like, it was fine, but it needed a lot of work. Yeah, right. But sorry, go on.
Starting point is 00:25:48 No, that's all I had. I mean, it feels like a real slap in the face if you made either of those. You put in so much work, or you acted or directed or did special effects or whatever, and they're just like, nah, not going to release this. Okay, but if you're Marvel marvel right and you you want to build in the x-men into your franchise yeah the first thing you release is sequels to x-men movies from the previous universe which then you have to fold that entire continuity oops sorry hit my mic sorry everybody into your own universe yes exactly do you think i think that would lose the money or won't lose
Starting point is 00:26:25 the money but maybe you just release them because they've mentioned you they release them on streaming or whatever and just be like this is this is just the wrap-up of the x-meniverse or yeah right or whatever i'd be very surprised if they got rid of them completely i think i think you've said you've said this before people will demand to see them oh yeah eventually want to see this yeah Oh, yeah, eventually. Because people want to see these. Yeah, for sure. There are fans of these movies. We're even fans of some of these movies.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Yeah, all right. I'll give you that. Logan. Logan's good. Deadpool's. First Class. Some of the original X-Men. Even The Wolverine.
Starting point is 00:26:57 Even The Wolverine, yeah. Is that the one where there's a very old Japanese man in a robot? Yes. Yeah. I've seen that. You have seen it. Yeah, I didn't mind it. No, I mean, what if they...
Starting point is 00:27:08 Maybe it's for the Disney streaming service. Yeah. Maybe they're like opening Gambit. No pun intended. Which, by the way, is apparently not happening. That's not happening again. But they're opening Salvo, if you will. What if they're like 10 bucks a month
Starting point is 00:27:25 first month's free and premiering two garbage X-Men movies that we didn't we didn't have enough faith in to release it's not a
Starting point is 00:27:32 not a terrible idea I think people would sign up for that I mean if you do that on top of a new Star Wars series and a bunch of other stuff I think that's I mean I would get that just to see these
Starting point is 00:27:40 I would too like good or bad well we have to see them that's true but even if I didn't I would get them just to see these. I would too. Like good or bad. Well, we have to see them. That's true. But even if I didn't, I would get them just to see these. Yeah. So apparently Disney,
Starting point is 00:27:48 yeah, Disney aren't happy with them. There's also rumors that X-23 is going to show up in one of them. I can't remember which one, which would kind of, which would be a good idea to kind of, if you want to work in the continuity. But the other rumor is that they're worried.
Starting point is 00:28:03 They don't know whether they want to pin a whole movie on X-23 because maybe the actress isn't old enough or to even carry a movie by herself or whatever. Again, these are all rumors. It's probably bullshit. Sick of these rumors. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:17 What's the definitive answers? You know what? Here's some definitive stuff, Mason. Okay, great. It's not a small rumors. Oh, that's exactly the opposite of what I wanted. Apparently, Marvel president
Starting point is 00:28:28 Kevin Fahey. It's pronounced Dennero. Dennero Fahey. Thank you. He's, even though he said he hasn't given any thoughts to the X-Men
Starting point is 00:28:38 and Fantastic Four at this stage, Velika claims that he wants to bring in Galactus and the Silver Surfer into the MCU. So that would be an interesting way to kind of herald the arrival of the fantastic herald yeah that's what i'm saying mason i'm using no i picked no you no you did it wasn't an accident no you did that accidentally and i've picked up on it because silver surfer is a herald of galactus you know
Starting point is 00:28:58 what i genuinely think it was an accident now give yourself. What, so now that I'm giving it to you you don't want it? Nah, I don't want it anymore. Yuck. So, yeah, I think that would, I mean, would you want to see
Starting point is 00:29:11 giant Galactus? Yes. Not a cloud. Not a cloud. Like a big purple man big horn helmet thing. Oh, that'd be great. But it also says
Starting point is 00:29:19 that Deadpool and X-Force are safe probably. But Deadpool 3 might be Deadpool and the X-Force or some variation. Do you think it's going to be Deadpool and the E is the 3?
Starting point is 00:29:30 Yes. Yeah, absolutely. Because it's a cliche. What else could it be, Mason? That's what I'm talking about. But yeah, I mean, The Ultimates, which is a Marvel comic book series, a couple of the opening storylines for that, it the ultimates which includes black panther and captain marvel sort of taking on galactus so chuck that in there maybe cosmic
Starting point is 00:29:53 get cosmic get cosmic mason that's my new catchphrase oh wow cosmic mason it just it's just for you because the catchphrase applies to nobody else. And in what context? Just to get you motivated. Oh, it's a motivational thing. If you see Mason on the street, you tell him to get cosmic. Get cosmic, if you could. Tell him on Twitter. Yep.
Starting point is 00:30:13 Just get cosmic, all right? I want to get cosmic. I'm so excited for that now, to be honest. I won't lie to you. I'm like, oh, this is going to be great. You're going to love it. Yeah, I know. Yeah. Unless people start throwing stuff. Yeah, that's not part of getting cosmic. idea i'm like oh this is gonna be no this is gonna be great you're gonna love it yeah i know yeah unless people start throwing stuff yeah that's that's not part of getting cosmic by the
Starting point is 00:30:30 way that doesn't help does it no yeah uh marvel studios is currently developing the eternals but it said the big part of the that movie is going to be something that helps usher in mutants into the mcu that's a lot though to bring in the eternals and mutants yeah i mean hinting at it sure but realistically they're they're very different on in terms of both size and cosmic significance yeah exactly the x-men they haven't left that forest have they they're still all in the forest yeah that's right so no they went to that mansion a lot but that's it well but maybe that's their strategy if you like ground level stuff, here's some mutants. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:07 If you like crazy cosmic stuff, here's the Eternals. That's right. If you love forests, you're going to love it. Anyway, that's all the news though. Oh, hey, speaking of news. What else have you got? This isn't news, but it's news to me because I just remembered it. I was on this week's episode of The Phone Hacks.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Oh. Comedians Mike Goldstein and Nick Capa. Yeah, yeah. And a guest rifled through each other's phones and attempted to find dirt on each other. That's terrifying. It was a terrifying, horrific experience, but it's a very funny listen. Okay. They got a whole bunch of episodes out with a whole bunch of comedians and also me for some reason.
Starting point is 00:31:43 Very good. So give that a listen if you... It's called? The Phone Hacks. It's on iTunes. It's on iTunes, is it? Ever heard of it? Yes.
Starting point is 00:31:50 Cool. Great. Did you get cosmic on it? No, because this was a while back and the get cosmic ethos was not embedded into my soul at that point. I get you. Yeah, it wasn't as natural as breathing. I probably had considered getting cosmic in an abstract sense,
Starting point is 00:32:06 but nobody really... You don't really know what it means, do you? No, but I mean, now that you've solidified it into the two-word mantra, get cosmic, now I'm really ready to get cosmic, you know? Yeah, absolutely. I just saw a bit of news that's like, a Venom trailer has been classified
Starting point is 00:32:21 and should be online at some point over the next few weeks. It'll probably happen this weekend. So if we didn't... I don't know that. But I'm just saying, if we don't talk about it, it's because we haven't seen it. But let me tell you... A lot of tendrils. I don't like it.
Starting point is 00:32:35 Wow. Yeah. Wow. What else we got here? Such a sweaty sweatshirt. It's a very sweaty... I guess that's the point of a sweatshirt. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:32:42 I think I've ever sweated in a sweatshirt. Why don't you sweat, Mason? You've got to work up a sweat. a sweat it's uncouth it's not it's good for you no you shouldn't keep it all bottled up you'll die you'll drown in your own sweat you ever heard of that yeah but at least i'll die doing what i love drowning in my own sweat yes yes okay who am i to judge mission impossible oh hello rogue nation this one one's called Fallout and it's called Fallout because there's a nuclear threat. It's looming over Ethan Hunt and all of his good mates.
Starting point is 00:33:11 Where's Jeremy Renner? Who fucking cares? Was he ever in this franchise? Maybe for a second. I don't know. Where's Bryce Ethan? Not him. Who's the other guy? Rhys Davies? Maybe he was in it but at the same time It's only just occurred to me That he was in it
Starting point is 00:33:26 Now that you've mentioned it Is it Who's the guy from John Rhys Davies No Who's the guy from Bend It Like Beckham Who was in it briefly
Starting point is 00:33:34 David Beckham No he's not actually in it At the end There's a Beckham lookalike But it's not actually him No Hang on I'm gonna find out
Starting point is 00:33:42 You're thinking of Emilio Estevez No you're thinking of Emilio Estevezvez yes jonathan rise may is oh yeah yeah maybe he's in bet maybe isn't it he's in the cast i don't think he is i need to know whether beckham's in it sorry i'm just looking at beckham because it says he's in the bennett like beckham movie and i need to know whether he's actually in i think maybe you see a clip of him at the end or something yeah i think it's yeah but yeah they see him at the airport but i think it's uh it's a double it's a standard okay no he's in uh he's actually in it. I think maybe you see a clip of him at the end or something. Yeah, I think it's... Yeah, but they see him at the airport, but I think it's a... It's a double. It's a stand-in.
Starting point is 00:34:07 Okay. No, he's in archival footage. Oh. And Andy Harmer plays David Beckham uncredited. So there you go. Cool. I knew it, Mason. That movie thought it could trick me,
Starting point is 00:34:19 but it couldn't trick me. No, that's right, because you're a man and it's a mere movie. That's right. But aren't, in a way, aren't't movies let's talk about mission impossible sure i was gonna help you out then but i didn't have anything neither did i so it's gonna it's gonna have they reckon a 50 to 60 million us opening which is a solid performance for these movies bearing in mind this is friday these are very early estimates it wouldn't surprise me if this does better than that yeah because it's quite good
Starting point is 00:34:43 i think it is good but also it But also, it's very long. So you can only get a limited amount of screenings in. It didn't feel long to me. No, it didn't. I thought it moved it a bit of a bloody clip, mate. I think it's because in the middle there's an action sequence that goes for about an hour and a half. That's probably it, yeah. It just doesn't stop.
Starting point is 00:34:56 Yeah. Yeah. Which, again, I enjoyed. But there is a moment where you're like, oh, that action sequence is... Oh, no, it's still... Am I still in it? He's got on another vehicle. we go that's it and it's gonna win no he's a leg in it he's on foot it's okay he's off again uh look action sequences aside what did you think
Starting point is 00:35:18 the story was all right hang on all right we just saw it so this oh yeah by the way we've literally come out of it yeah Yeah. These are very... Normally it takes us a few days to kind of get our thoughts. Yeah, we might have some raw thoughts. I feel like plot-wise... I'll talk about what the story was in a second. Don't try and duck what the story was. I feel plot-wise it was quite complicated, but mostly airtight.
Starting point is 00:35:41 But I'm sure in thinking about it over the next couple of days, I'll be like, hey, why didn't they just do, you know, whatever. I thought it was more complicated than the last one. Oh, absolutely, yeah. And there was a moment at the start where he's watching a little presentation of what's going on, and there was a second where I went, I don't know any of this. If I haven't been following this, I think I just tuned out.
Starting point is 00:36:01 But then at the end of the presentation, they go, so in summary. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And I'm like, oh, thank God. Yeah, absolutely. Because I missed a lot of that. Uh-huh, yeah. We need the new glue weapons because of this. Anyway, the story.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Okay, the story is, okay, so this one's the actual direct sequel to Mission Impossible 5 Reformation. Yeah, yeah. Which is the first sequel? Proper sequel. I mean, they're all the same. It's the same director. Yeah. It's the same villain, apparently.
Starting point is 00:36:24 Is that right? Yes, yes, it is. I had someone to ask you that. He's got a beard now, yes. But it is the same director Same villain apparently, is that right? Yes, yes it is I assumed to ask you that He's got a beard now, yes Yes, he's just got a beard Anyway, he's been He was captured by Ethan Hunt at the end of the last one In a glass box
Starting point is 00:36:38 Thank you I'm trying to think back to that mission briefing There's some plutonium There's three units of plutonium on the loose, and Ethan Hunt's got to get his team and get them back, but he's being shadowed by the biggest man of all, Henry Cavill. That's right. Mustachioed Henry Cavill.
Starting point is 00:36:54 That's right. And they fist fight, and they run about, and at one point he gets hit by a car, and then he gets up and he runs about four kilometers at full sprint. If you're wondering if any of your favorite IMF team members won't be hit by a car, some of them are probably going to get hit by cars. If they were going to get hit by a car in any of these movies, it's definitely this one because there are a lot of cars just careening about like there's no tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:37:20 You're in a car, you'll be hit by a car, you'll be outside. It doesn't matter where you are, you'll be hit by a car yeah you'll be outside it doesn't matter where you are you're getting hit by a car uh look the most important thing i find from any of these movies in particular tom cruise movies is how we rank the hair yep now i feel as he's gotten older he's gotten more conservative with his hair absolutely but he's grown i think it suits him i think the hair that he has in this yeah it's a cool guy hair, but I don't think he can get away with the Mission Impossible 2 hair anymore. No, no. I don't think anybody can. No.
Starting point is 00:37:49 Think of a person, Brad Pitt, not these days. No. Well, not when you're 56, which is what Tom Cruise is. Right. You can't pull that off. Yeah, yeah. We were talking about this briefly before we came in here, but he's slightly more age appropriate in this than the other ones. You can see grey in his stubble. Because he's aged like a human man.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Because he's aged like a human being. He looks... There's not... There is a sense of... Not a sense, because he's not slow at all, is he? No. There's no sense of his age. He's...
Starting point is 00:38:15 If anything, he's... He looks slightly older, I would say. He's a faster runner than ever in this one. He's really fast. Yeah. Have you ever seen a man that old run that fast? No! Wait, how old is Usain Bolt?
Starting point is 00:38:24 Much younger. Much younger. By? No. Wait, how old is Usain Bolt? Much younger. Much younger by many decades. Okay, good. Let me just, I'm fairly certain he's 56. Right. Let me just double check. Well, I was going to say, if we can go back to the hair for a gosh darn second. Yeah, 56, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:37 Yeah. He's four years of 60. Wow. That's fucking insane. I know, right? Yeah. And he's powered purely by madness. I think the hair is good,
Starting point is 00:38:47 but he couldn't go back to Mission Impossible 2 hair, and he definitely could not go back to Mission Impossible 1 crew cut. That's right out. Because that's a dude fresh out of the army. Yes. Who's still holding on to that haircut. Also, you can't be a spy with that haircut. You're clearly in some up to special forces.
Starting point is 00:39:05 Yeah, exactly. That haircut is now reserved for the henchman. It's a henchman haircut. It's a henchman haircut. That's exactly it. Where does IMF rank in terms of government agencies? It's tough to say, isn't it? I thought it was the top.
Starting point is 00:39:19 No, it's never been the top. But CIA is the top, I guess. I think it's some sort of weird jurisdictional issue. I think it depends on where in the world they are and what the crime is or what they're trying to achieve. Yeah, right. You know what I mean? Now, you mentioned returning cast members.
Starting point is 00:39:34 Yes. Who have we got back? Ving Rhames is back, baby. He's bigger than ever. Yep. Simon Pegg is back, baby. He's lankier than ever. Yep.
Starting point is 00:39:44 Rebecca Ferguson is back. She's backankier than ever Yep Rebecca Ferguson is back She's back She's the same as ever Same as the last one She's good I think they should give her more to do Yeah I think they are I think she had more to do in the last one than this one
Starting point is 00:39:53 Yeah I think if there's gonna be Oh no she's got a good sequence at the end actually Yeah I think if there's gonna be a sequel She's the new Yeah Lady She's the She's the new permanent fixture
Starting point is 00:40:02 I think she could carry one of these movies I mean If she survives Who knows in this movie? Who's going to live or die? Whoever dies in this, they could have been wearing a mask. That's very true, yeah. It doesn't matter. Anybody or everybody's wearing a mask.
Starting point is 00:40:16 So, yeah, basically, they look... I don't know if you finished telling what the story was. Yeah, I did. Did I? I nailed it. Okay, good. I might have been looking at Tom Cruise's hair in various pictures over the years. And they kind of work some more character into the Ethan Hunt character.
Starting point is 00:40:34 I think they do, yeah. By basically pointing out that his biggest flaw is that he loves too much. Yeah, right. That he's too much of a good mate to everybody, but also the world. And that's his greatest flaw. He's the world's best mate. He'd help the world move a couch on the weekend. But I thought that was pretty funny.
Starting point is 00:40:52 He'd help the whole world. He'd pick up the whole world at the airport. Doesn't matter how early it is in the day or late. He'll be there. He'll be there. I just thought that was pretty funny. Do you think that's an addition that Tom Cruise has requested? Potentially. Potentially.
Starting point is 00:41:05 I mean, it works with him because he's a ridiculous character. Agreed. Whenever he's put in a situation where he has to make a tough call, he never has to shoot a civilian or set up a bomb to kill a bunch of people. That's true, yeah. He always finds a way out of it. And just once I'd like to see him have to kill somebody that he doesn't want to. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:41:29 Because he always finds a way out of it. I don't think that's super interesting. But that's what I enjoy about it, I think. Yeah, you're probably right. Because it's a heightened reality. Yeah, you're right. Nobody would survive half of this stuff. Speaking of heightened reality, do you think ruining Justice League was a good excuse for the moustache?
Starting point is 00:41:47 Do you think those two things? No. Because this movie, speaking of bloody Fallout, Mason, the Fallout from this was the bloody CGI moustache from Justice League. Should we recap Moustache Gate? Yeah, sure, go.
Starting point is 00:41:57 So for anybody who doesn't know, so now I'm stuck. Great recap, Mason. Thank you. Henry Cavill was obviously Superman in Justice League yes and he filmed
Starting point is 00:42:08 all his scenes in Justice League and they nailed it they nailed it and then he went on to his next project Mission Impossible Fallout
Starting point is 00:42:14 for which he grew a lot of stubble and a moustache and they nailed it nailed it and then the directors of Justice League
Starting point is 00:42:23 was it Joss Whedon or was that yeah at that point Joss Wh was it Joss Whedon? Yeah, at that point it was Joss Whedon. Joss Whedon was like, hey, come back. We'll need to get Henry Cavill back for Justice League to reshoot some stuff. And they went, fine. A lot of stuff.
Starting point is 00:42:36 And then he said, okay, we're going to get him to shave his mustache off. And they go, uh-uh-uh-uh. Paramount said, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Paramount? Paramount. Yeah. They were like, no, no, no no no paramount paramount yeah they were like no no no we've got his contract ended yeah this is we're doing you a favor he will not shave
Starting point is 00:42:50 the mustache and they said we will pay to cgi it back on and they went no you will have to pay to cgi it off and they did and it looked bad they did not nail it they did not at all yeah i think it looks good on him i think i think it looks good but the thing is it's They did not nail it at all. Yeah. I think it looks good on him. I think it looks good. But the thing is, it's not just a moustache. No, it's a moustache and stubble. Yeah. I feel that's how you have to do it. You definitely have to do it like that.
Starting point is 00:43:11 Yeah. Just a moustache with very clean shaven is... No, some people can pull it off. And he probably could, but... I don't think he could. You don't think so? I think he'd look weird in French. And that's the worst thing to be.
Starting point is 00:43:23 I know. Weird in French. Weird in French yeah you know what I think's hilarious about these movies what's that Alec Baldwin now has little rascal hair what is going on there's a little rascal in these movies do you know what I mean like he's kind
Starting point is 00:43:36 of flat and then he's just got this little rascal spike at the front huh do you know what I'm talking about to me but yeah anyway he's back, he's back too. He's back. And what's her name? Head of the CIA is back. Angela Bassett.
Starting point is 00:43:49 Angela Bassett's back. So that's good. Angela Baskett. Thank you. They're all great. I love a good team. I love an established team when you come back into a universe, whether it be this or Fast and Furious or even the good Marvel movies where it's like, oh, I remember these guys and it's good to see them do another thing
Starting point is 00:44:05 together. I want one. I want a new team member for Mission Impossible 7. What do you mean? Just a new guy. I don't care. Or girl. Doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:44:11 Well, there's a new one in this one, isn't there? I know, but I want a new, new one. So every time you want a new, new one. No, I just want another one for the next one. Yeah, that's fine. Just to freshen it up a little. Yeah, I think that's what they're doing. There's a new one every time.
Starting point is 00:44:20 Great. And the next one, there'll be a new one. Terrific. And then the next one, there'll be a new one after that. Problem solved. Do you want to kill any of the old ones? No, they're good. Who should go if you had to kill any of them?
Starting point is 00:44:29 Ooh. No spoilers though, Mason. I mean, assuming they all live to the end of this one. But maybe they've all got masks or whatever. Maybe they've all got masks. Okay, let me narrow it down. Do you want Ving Rhames or Simon Pegg? I was going to say, because they're both tech guys, aren't they?
Starting point is 00:44:44 Yeah, you can get rid of one of them. Bearing in mind, Simon Pegg is more interchangeable. You can put more masks on him. That's true. Because Ving Rhames is a bigger man. Yep. You can pad up somebody. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:56 But you can't pad down. I feel Ving Rhames would have the more poignant death. Yeah. Because people... He had a good emotional moment in this movie, didn't he? I agree. He was talking about what a good bloke Tom Cruise is. That's right, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:07 And he teed up about it. Now, Ving, remember to really sell how good Tom Cruise is. Sell it as if your life depended on it. Maybe it does. We don't know. Ving. Pick, though, who? Yeah, I think Ving Rhames would have to die.
Starting point is 00:45:19 Wow. More poignant? More poignant. See, I'd rather have him hang around. But I think it would work better in the series if it was him. It would hurt more. Yeah,ignant. More poignant. See, I'd rather have him hang around, but I think it would work better in the series if it was him. It would hurt more. Yeah, agreed.
Starting point is 00:45:29 Yeah. Okay, fair enough. Mason, what I liked about this movie... Yes? I thought it was better than the last one. I agree. Which I thought was okay. I thought the last one was pretty good.
Starting point is 00:45:38 Yeah. But the biggest problem I had with that last one was weird CGI stunt sequences. The underwater one in particular. Yeah, it opened really strong with that last one was weird CGI stunt sequences. The underwater one in particular. Yeah, it opened really strong the last one. We've got Ethan Hunt hanging on the side of a plane as it takes off. And that was great. But then in the middle, they're like,
Starting point is 00:45:56 we've got to dive into this underwater computer or whatever it is. And it was just CGI him spinning around like a weird computer-generated rag doll. And even though they were like, Tom Cruise learned to hold his breath for 60 minutes or whatever but it doesn't matter because it's all... It doesn't feel like it yeah. Whatever. But this one, oh boy There's one moment, and I'm sure
Starting point is 00:46:14 there is CGI face replacement and whatever but it seems like he does a lot of this himself. He does a lot of you know, like climbing and running and hanging from a helicopter and whatever. There's one bit and it's in the trailers where he's from a helicopter and whatever. There's one bit and it's in the trailers where he's on a motorcycle and he gets hit by a car. That looks CGI
Starting point is 00:46:30 because it is. Because that would kill a man. And that's the only bit where I went, that seems a bit out of place in this movie. But other than that, the rest of it seems very real. But I think that's well, I think it was cut together well enough that if you're not looking for it... Yeah, sure But I think that's well... I think it was cut together well enough that if you're not looking for it...
Starting point is 00:46:46 Yeah, sure. No, I don't disagree with that. And if you're not like us, like, what's the CGI and what's the... If you're just being swept up in the action, it also doesn't give you enough time to contemplate whether he'd die from that, which he would. Which he definitely would.
Starting point is 00:47:00 I thought this movie also did a better job of breaking up the action sequences throughout the entire movie. So there was stuff that you kind of built towards. I think the last movie you did your plane thing at the start, but this really kind of, your set pieces were more evenly dispersed. And also mixed in with foot chases and fist fights and, you know, car chases and whatever. The bathroom fight scene is amazing. Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 00:47:23 So it's Henry Cavill and tom cruise versus a guy that they're after uh-huh and they all kind of fight differently they do tom cruise has got a bit of finesse and he's got some skill but he's not henry cavill is a like a like a steam train he's a brick and the guy they're fighting is like the best martial artist in the world yeah so it's a lot of fun it's really good yeah so that's definitely that was definitely a highlight uh for me also think that there's some pretty funny moments in this there's some little there's some yeah not like that's hilarious but just little moments of levity which never feel out of place yeah i agree i wonder if that would be
Starting point is 00:47:59 different if we didn't know the characters definitely Definitely. I think they benefit from... But that being said, I don't really remember the history of any of these characters. But I just know that I kind of like most of them. I thought this one really did a good job at kind of tying together all of them. There are. I felt it... We have an opening sequence, I think,
Starting point is 00:48:21 that was very reminiscent of the first one and the TV show. Mm-hmm. And it tied together all the elements like all of ethan's history with his you know with his wife and from mi3 yeah from mi3 and we even get a little nod to mi2 in there which again is a very bad movie but it's it's in there and i'm like oh my god they're doing it it's mi2 here it is yeah there's a moment in the trailers do i imagine this where tom cruise is in a helicopter yes and he's gonna hit a truck head on no you did imagine that i think it's in the trailer it's not i know what
Starting point is 00:48:58 you're thinking of yeah and i'll we'll talk about it in spoilers hold that make a note in my brain put it in your brain box well let's talk about spoilers okay before we do that how do you think this you're thinking of mission impossible one no the helicopter and the train i'm not okay i'm gonna look it up no i know what you're talking about okay we'll talk about yeah okay how does this compare to tom cruise's one and only other film the mummy comparatively his last oh it's better than that by a million billion miles wow it's a lot yeah how do you think it compares to the other ones where does it rank for you all right to me it ranks on par with
Starting point is 00:49:30 four i agree which is my favorite one me too uh one and four and one because i think it's it's kind of old school spy that you don't really get anymore and i don't think if you release that now it would necessarily work i I still really like it. But again, I think with this one, they did that. I think they went, you know what? We've got to bring it back a little bit of the finesse of the first one and which we, which we kind of open on. I think the finale of this though works better than the finale of four.
Starting point is 00:49:58 What happens at the end of four? Exactly, Mason. Exactly. I mean, he's got the hair of two in four. And that's great. That is great. But you take out that skyscraper sequence in four. Yep. And what do you got? How does it end?
Starting point is 00:50:10 Does it end in the... Is it the cars? Is it in the car park? Yes. Or is that five? No, it's not. Okay, yeah. Yeah, this ends way better.
Starting point is 00:50:17 Yeah. Uh-huh. I like the car park ending. Mm-hmm. But it's... Who doesn't love a car park ending? Mission Impossible 4, that episode of Seinfeld. Leaving the cinema.
Starting point is 00:50:27 Exactly, that terrific car park ending. Oh, classic car park endings. But yeah, I thought it was good and I definitely give this the best movie ever. Me too. I think if you're going to watch any of them, watch 5 going into this because they tie directly in. That's true. Because I'd forgotten a lot of
Starting point is 00:50:45 things which you don't necessarily need no but help i mean i've only seen that one at the cinema when it came out and i still enjoyed this one a lot so you know it was also great about this compared to the last one we saw what's that we mentioned this in the episode but they played the mission impossible theme at the beginning on loop and it goes for 32 seconds or something like that for about an hour and a half maybe it wasn't now before we before we before the movie started in this one we got some bloody gold class tickets mate because it was the earliest session we could get on a friday night and we walked in and it just started yeah so that definitely helped dream yeah that's worth a four hundred dollars, those tickets were. It certainly was.
Starting point is 00:51:26 Oh, my God, I spent so much money on this ticket. It's all right. I'll put it on the business, mate. Nice. Okay. Spoilers. Yes. I thought it was very funny how scary little Tom Cruise pretended he was going to attack that guy in the hospital bed.
Starting point is 00:51:38 Yeah, that's true. See, that's what I'm talking about. Yeah, that was fun. But see, I felt that was kind of hokey, but like... But it's supposed to be. Yeah, it's supposed to be. And that was very much in the shade of like... And they brought the masks back.
Starting point is 00:51:51 They brought the masks back. It was very good. They had the masks in the last one, didn't they? I can't remember. Yeah. Four didn't have masks. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, because the mask machine broke.
Starting point is 00:51:58 Glad to see the mask. But yeah, I enjoyed that sequence a lot. And I fell for it as well. Yeah. It's been such a long time between mission impossible one drinks no between like that and the first one okay yeah that i'm like oh this movie's gonna like they've changed the universe it's a universe where there's been three bombings yeah and we're gonna have to work in this universe where there's been that
Starting point is 00:52:21 and then as well the kremlin is destroyed yeah i know but and as the scene went on and then i'm like oh they're doing it they're doing a mission impossible one and then the walls came down and i'm like yes i love it how they've got the pull the lever and the walls come yeah that's right because i don't need that no but it's a nice little like we got your mate yeah we bloody got you yeah i enjoyed that a lot anyway the scene you're referring to that you think you saw in the trailer is the bit where the crashed helicopter is going to flip onto his helicopter. That's what you're thinking of. I'm not thinking of that.
Starting point is 00:52:51 You were definitely thinking of that. While you're doing that, we're still going to talk about it. Okay, terrific. You're going to look that up, aren't you? Yeah. Okay. I'm going to edit this out while I do this. Terrific.
Starting point is 00:53:00 Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. Yeah, I'm right, aren't I? No, you're not. What? Look at this, Mason. bam, bam, bam, bam Yeah, I'm right, aren't I? No, you're not What? Look at this, Mason Oh no Oh yeah I told you
Starting point is 00:53:14 That doesn't happen in the movie No, it doesn't That's what I said Welcome, Mason But if you considered That that doesn't happen in the movie That's definitely crossed my mind It's weird
Starting point is 00:53:23 Yeah You didn't say it, but I said it Yeah, you've said it Well done, you've cracked it Yeah, I cracked the code Because I remember seeing happen in the movie. That's definitely crossed my mind. It's weird. Yeah. You didn't say it, but I said it. Yeah, you've said it. Well done. You've cracked it. Yeah, I cracked the code. Because I remember seeing that in the trailer and thinking, that's an un-get-out-able situation. Well, clearly it was.
Starting point is 00:53:33 That is a mission impossible. Yeah, they edited it out. Is Tom Cruise in this supposed to be really good at flying a helicopter or not? No, he's not supposed to be bad. Then why is he so good at it? I mean, well, that's the thing. I think the idea is he picks it up really quickly. Right.
Starting point is 00:53:47 But there's no precedent for him not being good. Like, you'd assume that he knew how to fly. I would assume he knew how to fly a helicopter because he can do everything else. Yeah. But maybe there's a blind spot because he nearly got killed by the helicopter in Mission Impossible 1. And he won't. And now he's afraid of helicopters. Fair enough.
Starting point is 00:54:02 Do you reckon the real Tom Cruise is afraid of helicopters? No, the real Tom Cruise is afraid of nothing. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, wall climbing sequence out of Mission Impossible 2. Yeah. He turned to me and said he's using his powers for Mission Impossible 2. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:15 So good. Yeah. What I like about the rock climbing scene, because he's really doing it, he doesn't just monkey up it. No. It's slow. He's like, I'm really hurt and I'm just going to slowly climb up this. I've been hit by a car and I've been beaten up a lot.
Starting point is 00:54:32 And I fell out of this helicopter twice. No. Do you remember? Because he got, he fell, it was in the helicopter. Yes. And then he got out and then he fell into a different helicopter. And then that helicopter fell down. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:44 Yeah. So that was pretty good. So there's the reveal that the Lark, they're having a real bloody Lark this whole thing. There we go. There we go. Thank you. That's a guy who's been selling CIA secrets to the bloody, to the bad guys or whatever. Because the guy from the last Mission Impossible wants to create a new world order, something,
Starting point is 00:55:05 something. What if the world didn't follow by its own rules? Or, you know, all that shit. And it's revealed to be Henry Cavill who turns into Scary Cavill when he gets half his head burnt. I thought when he got half his head burnt, that's a sure sign that a man's coming back in the next film with half of his face burnt. Same, but I guess... sure sign that a man's coming back in the next film yeah with half of his face burnt same but
Starting point is 00:55:25 but i guess or i mean he didn't he did just fall off a cliff in like he didn't he didn't he rolled into the explosion oh yeah he's dead oh yeah but i thought as soon as his face was up because then you can't hide as as easily that's true you wear a mask but you can't really hide when you're we know we've got half your face is melted off or whatever, but you notice in these movies, cause halfway through or not even, they're like, so the big reveal is, uh,
Starting point is 00:55:50 someone who's working, someone who is in the CIA has been sharing secrets. It's been leaking secrets, government secrets to, you know, to, to the bad guys or whatever. A Siki leak.
Starting point is 00:56:00 Yeah. And it's never, it's always someone they know. It's never just, Oh yeah, it's just some guy in IT that you never met. But we got him, and don't worry about it. Yeah, he's in jail now.
Starting point is 00:56:09 Yeah, it's always one of the three new people. That's true, yeah. Well, they have to get close to the secrets to steal the secrets. That's probably true. That's rule number one of Spycraft. You've got to get close to the secrets to steal the secrets. I mean, was there ever a point where you didn't think Henry Cavill was trying to steal all the secrets?
Starting point is 00:56:24 I think he would have made a good addition to the team yeah i think very early on i'm like yeah sure yeah uh-huh um but i mean well i was gonna say very because he does he does pass out during his halo jump yes which i guess then when i said earlier you know most of the logic checks out was that just a lucky that's a real halo jump oh yeah yeah Wow he did they did did they really yeah it's all real huh it's like the one shot and the cameraman follows out the Tom yeah yeah cool um why I guess my question is was that did he didn't do it on purpose and get knocked out yes no he just never really done it before. Right, okay. So it's a weird arrogance for the guy who is the guy stealing the secrets.
Starting point is 00:57:09 Yes. He's just like, I'm going to do this halo jump without thinking about it. Yeah, who cares? Yeah. I thought that was odd. Yeah, well. I guess people make mistakes. He is a lunatic.
Starting point is 00:57:17 Yeah, I guess that's true. Do you remember how he's a lunatic? Yeah, he's kind of a lunatic. Yeah. Okay, so this movie has confirmed, yet again, my theory that tom cruise will not kiss a woman on screen uh not not not maybe not by choice but tom cruise isn't seen romancing somebody anymore doing a passionate kiss any kind of love making scenes or anything like that because i think it's perceived that it's weird right okay there is a moment where a woman forcibly kisses him briefly.
Starting point is 00:57:46 That's right, yeah. But he doesn't respond or react. Yeah, uh-huh. Maybe that's a testing of the waters. It could very well be. They're going to ease us back into it. There is a hint towards the end that maybe he's going to have a bit of a love sequence with the Rebecca Ferguson character in the future.
Starting point is 00:58:02 Did you get a hint of that maybe? Yeah, I got a hint of that, yeah. Because he meets up with his ex-wife, who's now married to Wesley Bentley, which was a surprise. Yeah. Did they say that she was, because I had to go to the loo at one point. Yes. Did they mention that she was remarried?
Starting point is 00:58:15 No. Okay. That's a surprise to him and us. Yes, okay. He is the audience surrogate. Yeah. In this movie. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:22 It was good to see her again, though. I like Michelle Monaghan. I agree. And she was helpful. She got her own action sequence of sorts. Yeah. In this movie. It was good to see her again. I like Michelle Monaghan. I agree. And she was helpful. She got her own action sequence of sorts. Yeah. You mean sitting with Bing Raheem. Yeah, and then pointed at stuff.
Starting point is 00:58:33 Yeah. That was good. I like the parallel diffusing the bomb situations. Yes. I mean, they weren't perfectly parallel, but I did enjoy that. They were close enough. Yeah, they were close enough. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:41 Do you get the sense that he can't Can't love his wife that much Because he hasn't seen her In like 14 years Right I mean he says that Yeah I mean like You can love someone forever
Starting point is 00:58:52 Obviously And he's And he's given it all away Yeah right I think they haven't Because their love is greater So there's an understanding there Greater than lesbian
Starting point is 00:58:59 She's allowed to get remarried I guess You'd think he'd give him A heads up though You'd think so You'd think Do you think he a heads up, though. You'd think so. You'd think... Do you think he did know, though? Because he would have kept tabs on her.
Starting point is 00:59:09 No, he seemed very surprised. Don't you think he'd just be upset in general, though? Yeah. But I think maybe what he should have done... In a way, it's his fault, because he should have given her the tools, like a signal for when she got married again. He should have given her a code word, but he when she got married again he should have given her a
Starting point is 00:59:26 code word but he didn't think ahead enough you know but why would he don't know i mean when is he going to be in a situation where he'd have to how could you predict that exact situation that's what i'm saying he should have though he's he's ethan hunt yeah he is ethan hunt you're right i'm not okay uh alec baldwin gets a little action set piece where he fights Henry Cavill. Yes. That lasted about four seconds longer than it should have. And it goes for about five seconds. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:59:51 Alec Baldwin does some slow punches. Yeah, that's right. Slow, heavy guy punches. Yeah. But then he gets stabbed and he dies because Angela Bassett's going to be the new head of IMF. Yeah, that's true. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:02 I really feel like there's a moment where he's like, boy, I get why you guys do this. And I'm like, you're going to die within minutes. He's like, I really see how you're having a lot of fun here. This is great stuff. Feels good to be on the team. I'm like, you're so dead, mate. Why would you say that?
Starting point is 01:00:19 Why are you even there? Why'd you even go out in the field? You're too doughy for field work. He is. Too doughy. Anything else from spoilers? Because I really got to kind of wrap this up mace and i move towards the end of this thing uh let me think okay i can go through the action sequences and if there's anything that you want to say about them uh-huh i think i've got them all uh there's this the jump at the start the halo jump yep great uh. Great. Uh, nothing to say.
Starting point is 01:00:45 No, I think I've said all of them. It needs to be said. Yeah. Bathroom fight. Really good. Great stuff. Uh, car chase slash bikes, chase slash foot chase. Boat chase.
Starting point is 01:00:54 Slash boat chase. Uh huh. All good stuff. Good stuff. I think it's a testament to Christopher McQuarrie. Yes. Is the director. Christopher McQuarrie. Christopher McQuarrie.
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Starting point is 01:01:03 Christopher McQuarrie. Christopher McQuarrie Christopher McQuarrie That it didn't get It didn't become a drag In the middle bit Like he paced it so well And he knew when to switch vehicles Yeah Because it kind of stops Also in points
Starting point is 01:01:12 And like you said You think it's finished Yeah But it's definitely not finished And it never feels like It's CGI cars Well actually there's a moment Where they're going around
Starting point is 01:01:21 Is it the Arc de Triomphe Oh yeah Because you can't really do that Yeah I mean that felt a little Have you been there Yes Well both of us have travelled So of course we've both been there Other than that There's a moment where they're going around. Is it the Arc de Triomphe? Oh, yeah, because you can't really do that. Yeah, I mean, that felt a little... Have you been there? Yes.
Starting point is 01:01:26 Well, both of us have travelled, so of course we've both been there. Other than that, it all felt like real heavy cars really moving and really smashing into each other. And it looked like Tom Cruise was really zipping about on that motorbike. Because as we know, Tom Cruise loves a bloody motorbike. Loves a motorbike. Yeah. Now, Mason, just before we wrap this up, it would be remiss of us not to mention whether or not he goes rogue. Well, we are in the spoiler section, so I think we can legitimately say he goes a little bit rogue.
Starting point is 01:01:50 He goes a little bit rogue. It's the least rogue he's ever gone. Isn't it, though? Yeah. Yeah. But there's a lot of buildup to it, I feel. He pretends to go rogue. I think I turned to you at one point and went, he's got to go rogue.
Starting point is 01:02:00 Yeah. Because there's a ruse where he goes rogue, but then a few minutes later, he's forced to go rogue. That's very true, yeah. So he just goes rogue. But it's not that rogue, is it? No, it's not the roguest he's ever been. No, but it's rogue enough.
Starting point is 01:02:19 Yeah, I think the roguest he's ever been is the very, very long stretch in Rogue Nation where he was very rogue yeah is two the only one where he doesn't go rogue or does he go rogue in that one also i don't know he's on mission for the i think that's why it sucks yeah probably everyone's wearing a mask yeah what's going on also that mid-air motorcycle fight it's the best part of that terrible film no it's not it's a bad film and that's the worst part. This movie was unique in the Mission Impossible movies in that it did have these weird hypothetical scenarios that played out in Tom Cruise's head.
Starting point is 01:02:51 What do you mean? Like, you know, the bit where they're like, we're going to retrieve the bad guy, and then he imagines the whole sequence where everybody dies, and then he goes and he does it a different way. And I think there's another one as well. Yes. Well, there's the bomb at the start.
Starting point is 01:03:06 Yes. Where he imagines that his arch nemesis is marrying him yeah nuclear bomb getting married to him that's a do you think that's how tom cruise feels that if he really got married again i think that would be the looming threat of of nuclear annihilation almost certainly yeah, yeah. He probably thinks he's been cursed by Xenu. And if he does get married, if he ever shows any affection on screen to anyone other than Xenu or the great L. Ron Hubbard, then a nuclear holocaust will consume the world.
Starting point is 01:03:36 That's how they've got him. That's how they got him. They've convinced him he's the most important man in the world because he's staving off nuclear apocalypse. But all he has to do is not kiss a woman on screen unless to death like unless to death exactly thank you okay fair enough yeah well that is uh that is mission impossible look we josh a bit on tom cruise we're having a lark having a bit of a
Starting point is 01:03:55 lark aren't we yeah uh and i certainly don't agree with a lot of his personal philosophies but he's good at this you know he's uh sure i don't know whether it translates into all of his franchises And everything that he does But I think this is These are great These are good in general And this was a good one in general And that's the magnetic
Starting point is 01:04:17 The singular tooth We brought it back The tooth of wisdom That drives his every waking thought and movement Alright, do you know what it's time for then? Is it time for what we're reading? What are we going to read? The tooth of wisdom that drives his every waking thought and movement. All right. Do you know what it's time for then? Oh, is it time for what we're reading?
Starting point is 01:04:29 What are we going to read? I'm doing the thing. What are we reading today? Oh, I'm still getting into Westworld. I've made it up to the episode with the Indian, Native American. And? Good, good episode. It's a great episode. I've got two episodes left.
Starting point is 01:04:45 I'm fired up about it. I was like, I'm going to knock off another one. And I'm like, no, I'm going to wait. You wait for it. I'm going to treat myself later. Now people raz these new seasons. Do they? Yeah, no, they do. And I do agree with the timeline situation. I think it's unnecessarily complicated at points.
Starting point is 01:05:02 I think it... But I think it's built on the previous one. Yes. But I think it's built on the previous one. Yes, but I think it's more complicated than it needs to be. I still think you can do tricky stuff with it, but I think it takes it a little too far. I also think that, for me, the only other downfall of this season, I think, is that I think they built a couple of characters to act a certain way in the first...
Starting point is 01:05:24 And I don't mean host host character like androids i mean they wrote a certain characters to have certain goals and end points in season one yeah and then they realized that they needed them to be doing more things in season two and so they wrote rewrote their motivations and changed some bits and pieces like literally yeah do you mean in the show? No, I mean, I mean, the, the, the, for example, the, the man in black. Yeah. Uh, and his previous self. Yes. I think they went, okay, in the first season, he's just a naive guy going into Westworld
Starting point is 01:06:01 for the first time. And I think in season two, they're like're like, well we need we need a new plot device so we won't have this guy just be this naive guy, we need him to be this wily business type you know what I mean? The McPoyle, you know Mr McPoyle. I know Mr McPoyle I've finally
Starting point is 01:06:17 been starting, started Hannibal Yes, great! And I've been having a really good time with it It's like you said, it's people going mad or thinking they're going mad and other people telling people that they're going mad. And it's a lot of that. Yep.
Starting point is 01:06:32 And Hannibal's manipulating everything and whatever. But it's, I mean, I can see why people like it so much. And I'm sure by the end of it, I'll be demanding another season of it also. Because I'm really enjoying it. Yeah. But also, it's going to get to you a little bit. Has it gotten to you a little bit? Yeah, a little bit.
Starting point is 01:06:48 What sense though? What do you mean though? I don't know. Just. It's upsetting. It's upsetting. It's more. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:53 No, it's more unsettling. Upsettingly stylish. Yeah, it is. You must be a fan of his look, right? Yeah, it's a great look. Because I feel like that's something that you could definitely. He changes it up in season three. I'm not happy about it.
Starting point is 01:07:03 Oh, really? But circumstances necessitate it, so i assume i yeah because there has to be a point where his circumstance changes correct yes much like everybody's lives yes he has a kid no he's a dad no hannah dad no oh that's season four everybody's got a great look in the show yeah they've thought about it. They have thought about it. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:27 We've got to do letters. You've got that letters thing. Yeah, I've got letters ready. It's prime to go. The classic one was letters, oh letters. We love you. Some letters, they're only a day away. We're going to be here right now.
Starting point is 01:07:41 We're going to do letters. I saw you open your phone before and I saw the YouTube app come up and I was thinking why is he why are you going on YouTube but now I know Mason that's right because you knew I don't have time
Starting point is 01:07:52 you didn't want to dilly dally about don't like to dilly dally you know I don't like to dilly dally if you want to reach the show hashtag weeklyplanetpod on Twitter or also shoot a gmail over to I was going to say Mr. Mason Mr. Mason address me as Mr. Mason. Mr. Mason.
Starting point is 01:08:05 Address me as Mr. Mason or I will not be read out. WeeklyPlanetPod at Gmail.com. We should probably also start taking some questions from the Planet Broadcasting great mates and the Reddit as well. Yeah, we should do that. Totally. Here's a letter from Chuck Draxler. That's a great name. I know, right?
Starting point is 01:08:23 Solid name. I've got two letters here, both incredibly solid names. This is from Chuck Draxler. That's a great name. I know, right? Solid name. Yeah. There's two, I've got two letters here, both incredibly solid names. This is from Chuck. He says, I like James. I'm a big fan of superhero movies and musicals.
Starting point is 01:08:33 In order to keep the genre fresh, is there a possibility we could see a superhero musical? I'm assuming... Spider-Man Enter the Dark. It's called Turn Off the Dark. Turn Off the Dark. Which I am...
Starting point is 01:08:42 Look, I just... That's thoroughly cancelled, isn't it? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. But I just... I feel... I really wanted to see that. Me too.
Starting point is 01:08:51 There's no way it would have come to Australia. Oh, not for it to be good, was it? No, it was... Yeah. You didn't want to see it because you were going to enjoy it. No, I thought it was going to be profoundly bad and I would enjoy it on that level. You don't like the music of U2 set to a bad retelling of the Spider-Man origin? No. Oh. Yeah, that's right. You probably wouldn't have enjoyed it just it's gone forever though isn't it it seems that way yeah why would they revive it anywhere i mean i get what you know
Starting point is 01:09:15 what i would love to see like a um like a community theater revival you couldn't do it people nearly died doing the real one well that's what i'm saying you cut all of that. You figure out a different way of doing that. Because it was apparently like it was people were constantly getting injured and they had to keep replacing the Spider-Man. And I think what Chuck is suggesting is maybe we see a musical at the movies as opposed to a live musical. But also Spider-Man Turn Off the Dark, my favourite element of that is that they had
Starting point is 01:09:47 to introduce an additional, like the villains were the Sinister Six. Oh, the Swiss Miss? Swiss Miss. They had to introduce a character called Swiss Miss because they had to massage the plot into a weird avenue and they needed an additional character. So like there's thousands of characters they could have just grabbed. That's what I'm saying. No, no, it's Swiss Miss. We don't have that's what i'm saying no no it's not a good name either it's really bad dr horrible it's a sort of a superhero yeah that's true uh situation and there is i always enjoy a musical episode of anything i know you do yeah is there any of the modern uh comic book
Starting point is 01:10:23 movie shows are there any musical episodes? There's a Flash Supergirl crossover. It's a musical. Okay, have you seen it? Yes. And? It's good. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:31 Because what's his face? I bet that's somebody's favorite soundtrack. Probably. What's his face? Who? Grant Gustin. He was on Glee, so he can sing. And so can, what's her face?
Starting point is 01:10:43 Supergirl. I don't know her name. Everybody can give it a go. They're really great. Can don't know her name. Everybody can give it a go. They're really great. Can I give it a go? You can give it a go. Everybody can sing a little bit. No, they can't.
Starting point is 01:10:51 My dad can't. Oh, no. Yeah. I hope he's not listening. No. But he doesn't try, though, either. He knows his limits. See, that's...
Starting point is 01:10:59 Oh, I see what you're saying. All right. But see, that's what I'm saying with karaoke. The key is try a little bit of tenderness. Okay. No, but I'm saying try it because a lot of people just get up there and like. Yeah, that's boring. It's no, just give it a whirl.
Starting point is 01:11:12 Yeah. People respect the confidence. You surprise yourself. Yeah. Yeah. Or you'll fail worse than you've ever failed in your life. Oh, no. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:11:21 Okay. life oh no okay so um if we had to pick a a maybe a a character which character would you like to be a musical character do you do something do you do something light do you like a guardians of the galaxy musical i feel like the kind of the operatic nature and the the colors and the fun of guardians might and the ensemble cast might suit uh like that. What do you think? Yes. There we go. We've both decided. Also, if you've never seen it... I don't want a dark, weird Phantom of the Opera Batman musical.
Starting point is 01:11:51 Yeah. Just be sad. Although I was going to say, if you haven't seen it, there's an episode of Justice League Unlimited called This Little Piggy. You should watch that. If you like Batman and singing... And pigs.
Starting point is 01:12:03 Maybe just find the clip on YouTube. It's very good. I think it's, yeah, I agree. Kevin Conroy, voice of Batman, he can sing a bit. He can sing a little bit too. That's right. I've got a tweet here from Doug Winship. That's a good name too. Yes.
Starting point is 01:12:16 I strongly suspect. Do you think it's because one of his ancestors won a ship? Definitely. Wow. Yeah, that's pretty good. Do you think his family live on that ship? Let's ask him. Okay. Doug, did your family win a ship? Definitely. Wow. Yeah, that's pretty good. Do you think his family live on that ship? Let's ask him. Okay.
Starting point is 01:12:26 Doug, did your family win a ship either recently and you changed your name or in the past? Yeah. Or is it an aspirational name? That's a good question. Or is it like the secret? Do you think one day you'll win a ship? Doug says- Just bring that energy to your universe I strongly suspect that this talk of Henry Cavill
Starting point is 01:12:47 As James Bond is all a negotiation A tactic for Man of Steel 2 That said I'd be 100% on board How about you? Tweeps Hashtag weekly planet pod That's what you've got to do to get your tweets seen It could be People leverage roles
Starting point is 01:13:02 Is he too big? For Bond? Yes Do you think he's too close to like craig big is that what you mean he's bigger than that i feel but he's never been he hasn't always been that big i think he could slim down if you've ever seen the immortals which is a terrible film i haven't uh but he's i did watch gods of egypt the other day oh my god it's so bad i need to see that is it entertaining though not Not really It is bizarre though
Starting point is 01:13:26 Because they're just big men The gods are just men but they're 8 feet tall It's really disconcerting Yeah it looks good Jeffrey Rush is in it Yeah? Yeah So weird
Starting point is 01:13:37 Does he give the exposition at the top? I bet he does Yeah he does In the world of something something I think he does Is he in Green Lantern? Is he in Green Lantern? I don't think so
Starting point is 01:13:44 Is he? Yeah he's the voice of Kilow something. I think he does, yeah. Is he in Green Lantern? Is he in Green Lantern? He is. Is he? Yeah, he's the voice of... Kilowog? No. Ganford? One of the weird ones. Huh. I'm sure he's in it.
Starting point is 01:13:52 Wow. I'm sure he does the exposition up top. Let's not look it up. Yeah. What were we talking about? Him as James Bond. Alright, I'll have a look at him slimmed down and I'll say. I think he'd be a good fit.
Starting point is 01:14:01 Is he too tall? James Bond is tall. He's not that tall. Also, Henry Cavill isn't... I think he's be a good fit. Is he too tall? James Bond is tall. He's not that tall. Also, Henry Cavill isn't. I think he's like 6'1". So he's not crazy tall. He's not like Armie Hammer tall. Oh, because he's...
Starting point is 01:14:12 You're right. He's next to Tom Cruise. Yeah, because Batman, Superman turned it around. Because Superman's normally taller than Batman. But they've turned it around. Turned it around. Okay, right. Okay, well 6'1".
Starting point is 01:14:23 Yeah, that's all right. That's within the realm. Because I... You need him to blend in that's what I'm yeah I feel what often Bond movies get wrong about Bond
Starting point is 01:14:32 is that he's just this guy that everybody would look at and be like who's this guy what's his deal that doesn't work for a spy no
Starting point is 01:14:38 I think is he too handsome then to be Bond because also in the the books Bond is plain isn isn't he? He's not handsome, but he's pretty generic. And he's got a...
Starting point is 01:14:50 He's got a scar. He's got a little scar. I think that could work. I reckon you could ugly up Henry Cavill a little bit. I mean, not a lot, certainly. You wouldn't want to take it too far. No, but you could give it a try. Just like burn off half of his face.
Starting point is 01:15:00 Yes, thank you. Just get him to... Look, I'm totally willing. He's watchable too. I'm willing. I'm totally... Yeah. I'm willing. I'm totally... Yeah. I'm willing.
Starting point is 01:15:05 I would absolutely like to watch that. Do you think if they went more emotional, kind of Daniel Craig Bond, he could do it? Because I don't think I've ever seen him do it. I'm not saying he can't do it. Yep. But I don't think he's ever been given the opportunity to do that. I wouldn't want him to do that. I think I would much rather see him do Roger Moore style Bond.
Starting point is 01:15:22 Ah, fun Bond. Fun Bond and silly. Cool. Okay, I've got one more tweet here. And you've got one more letter? I've got one more letter. Do you want to do your letter first? Yeah, this is from Elliot Cheeseman.
Starting point is 01:15:30 Yeah! Yeah, that's right. Let's see. He's got an idea for shows with the upcoming The Meg coming out. I'm so excited. I'm seeing it next Friday. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:41 Underwater films. Are any of them any good? I guess that's the broader question. No. None? Deep Blue Sea. The Ab abyss haven't seen it really it's got the water face hunt for red october it's got to be a fun one like a fun one or a good one fun or good i'll take either at this point is any of sahara underwater oh there's a there's a civil War submarine sequence. Yeah. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 01:16:07 Can we consider any movie with a submarine in it? No, it has to be underwater. I like Deep Blue Sea. Yep. But do you count like Jaws? Does that count as an underwater movie? No. What about...
Starting point is 01:16:16 So it has to be on... Not even... Because The Meg isn't an underwater movie. It's an on-the-water movie. Okay, let's include... It has to be a movie with an underwater sequence. Nautical based. Thank you, yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:26 Okay. Titanic. That's under the water. Is it good though? Yeah, I guess. Yeah, Titanic is good. All right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:34 Sequest DSV, the TV show. It's a great movie. Thank you. Thank you. I mean, Jaws, obviously. Jaws is a great movie. I remember I watched a movie, I think it was called The Deep. It was a Tali movie.
Starting point is 01:16:46 It was about Jaws, but it's a giant octopus. Yeah, cool. I watched that when I was a kid. It wasn't very good. Great, good. So maybe let's check that one off. Yeah, maybe. Okay, cool.
Starting point is 01:16:55 Is The Abyss good? I can't remember. I don't even remember the water face. Yeah. See, my problem is I think that I am... What about Sphere? Isn't that underwater a lot of it it's in a sphere yeah yeah but it's underwater okay i feel i don't know i just feel
Starting point is 01:17:12 uncomfortable in any kind of underwater movie i think yeah right because i'm like when are they gonna run out of air do you like the underwater school in ocean girl no tv show ocean girl no okay fair enough it's bad do you want to go to the Spy Who Dumped Me premiere? Yeah, kind of. Okay, you can go. I'm not going. Oh, good. No, I won't be.
Starting point is 01:17:32 I'm not free. Okay, right. So I just came through now. Oh, terrific. That's exciting. I'll probably get to stand in front of a screen holding my hands like a gun. Yes, you will get to do that. Take a photo.
Starting point is 01:17:43 There'll be an opportunity to do that. Someone will take a photo. Yeah, you'll be able to do that. Charlie's Angel style. That's what you'll be able to do. James your hands like a gun. Yes, you will get to do that. Take a photo. There'll be an opportunity to do that. Someone will take a photo. Yeah, you'll be able to do that. Charlie's Angel style. That's what you'll be able to do. James Bond style. Yeah. Then I'll point at the camera like, pew, pew.
Starting point is 01:17:51 You can do that. But I won't be holding a gun. I'll be holding my hands like a gun. Yeah, they won't let you in if you bring a real gun in and pose for a photo. Wow, well then I'm not interested. If you can cancel that. If you can cancel that really quickly. Wait, can I go if I'm free?
Starting point is 01:18:04 Or do you just want me to cancel it? Because if you can't do that, should we cancel it for everybody? Yeah, cancel it for everyone. Okay, good. That's from High on... Oh, did we finish that? Yeah, I think so. You know what?
Starting point is 01:18:12 If people... What's a good underwater... It has to have an underwater sequence. And it has to be a water-based film. The Spy Who Loved Me. Is that... Okay. It's got an underwater sequence that I love.
Starting point is 01:18:23 Okay, fair enough. And that's Roger Moore, James Bond. I think it has to be... The best Bond. But I don't think... I also don't think it can be a movie that is majority land-based and then there's an undersea bit. I think it has to be like a mostly ocean-based film.
Starting point is 01:18:36 Yeah, but The Spy Who Loved Me, it's an undersea finale. Okay. I think that counts too. All right, fair enough. Any others though? Plus his car turns into a submarine. I've seen it. Which is the dream.
Starting point is 01:18:44 No, it's not. Yes, it is. It a submarine Which is the dream No it's not You just said you don't even like being underwater You're not getting in a I would for that If somebody was like here's a Lotus Esprit From like the 1980s You won't jump out of a plane or bungee jump You're not getting in a 1980s
Starting point is 01:19:02 Lotus Esprit Test car And going underwater yes i am it's not happening but totally and you definitely die yes it would immediately fill with water it's probably still filled with water they still can't get the water out probably all the doors are locked it's just a stuntman's corpse in there it's airtight but they can't un-airtight it. Wow. So whatever dead stuntman's in it's preserved perfectly forever. Just wearing a Roger Moore wig. Oh, so good. A skeleton with a Roger Moore wig.
Starting point is 01:19:33 Nobody does it better. Nobody does. Than that dead stuntman. Hey, I'm Jacob on Twitter says, if Bubba Bee does well, do you want another Transformers movie, more Gen 1 accurate, Or would you rather another solo film? I'd like to see a Wreckers movie. Love to hear your thoughts. Oh.
Starting point is 01:19:50 Yeah, I wouldn't mind another. I mean, it depends. A Wreckers movie I feel would take that. Like Constructor Cons? No, the Wreckers were like a... The Wreckers are like Transformers Special Forces. Oh, okay. Yeah, so there's a guy...
Starting point is 01:20:02 That would be interesting. Yes, but that would be mostly set on Cybertron i think fine yeah just something else yeah yeah yeah actually that would be good yeah but proper cybertron not like the earth is cybertron or cybertron's being flung at the earth or whatever none of those i want prop just an adventure on cyber you don't want to be good yeah an adventure on cybertron and You know what would be good? Yeah. An adventure on Cybertron and everybody's Transformers sized. Okay, sure, yeah. How good would that be? That would be great.
Starting point is 01:20:28 And they transform into bloody Cybertron forms. I've always wanted to see, like in the Transformers movie, a person who gets in a Transformers suit and it transforms into a car. Yeah. Why don't they do that? Yeah, nice. Why can't I see that? Because they did it in 1985 or possibly 6 as Transformers in the movie.
Starting point is 01:20:44 Yeah, but they also killed Optimus Prime in that movie and then they did that again too. Yeah, that's true. I don't know. All Hail Megatron's good from memory. I don't remember what it's about, but I remember liking it a lot. I would like to see another team movie. Yes. You want to see them roughhousing in the desert or a junkyard?
Starting point is 01:21:00 No. No. What do you want to see? Give them proper characters. No, you don't want that No, you do You think you want that Streamline them
Starting point is 01:21:08 I want to see them transform the same way every time Yeah That's all I want You know what? I get a lot of hate If they're a car And they transform into a man The doors are on their shoulders
Starting point is 01:21:19 That's how it works I want to be able to see the doors And you want the front of the car as the chest The front of the car as the chest Alright Yeah I'm not asking for a lot You're not You're being very reasonable That's how it works. I want to be able to see the doors. And you want the front of the car as the chest. Yeah, the front of the car as the chest. All right. Yeah. I'm not asking for a lot. You're not.
Starting point is 01:21:28 You're being very reasonable. But a lot of the hate that I get is for when I make fun of Transformers. It's just like on the Bumblebee trailer where a lot of that's me going, hey, those other movies are not good, but I think this looks good. And just people like, you don't know what you're talking about. You're dumb and your opinion is an idiot. Those are the best movies and you're not a true fan or whatever. People really love those movies.
Starting point is 01:21:53 I guess that's why they all made a billion dollars. Yeah. But all the same, I'd like to see some ones that aren't bad. Yeah, me too. All right, that's the show, Mason. Wrap it up. Let's see if you want to say hello to us. Well, first of all, thanks for listening to the show.
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Starting point is 01:24:27 Let's see. Thank you to The Brute and Basilisk and Rackham for all our theme musics. What's next week? I don't know. A topic? Underwater movies. Ooh.
Starting point is 01:24:39 I feel if we couldn't think of one good one just then, maybe don't let's not talk. Maybe we get an influx and we're like, well, there's a lot of these. We didn't even think of any of one just then uh maybe don't maybe we get it in flux and we're like we didn't even think of any of those yeah great stuff we could do shark movies it's true i'd have to watch a lot of shark movies though yeah yeah let's have a let's think on it let's see what we come up with because i could only do jaws jaws 4 and deep blue Sea I think those are the only ones I could actually do yep oh and Supermarket Shark
Starting point is 01:25:07 what is that? it's not called that but it's the one where there's a tidal wave it's Australian film and then a shark gets in a supermarket oh that's called Supermarket Shark yes
Starting point is 01:25:16 that's what I'm talking about terrific yeah why didn't they call it Supermarket Shark? right? because then I I don't remember the real name of it yeah I mean that's intriguing.
Starting point is 01:25:25 Yeah. That's an intriguing premise with a great name and I would totally check that out. I mean, I need to find out what that's called now. Okay. Supermarket Shark.
Starting point is 01:25:35 It's called Bait. It should be called Super... That's a horrible name. It should be called Super Sharkers. That's very good. Thank you. Bait. Don't like that.
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