The Weekly Planet - 25 Worst CBM Costumes & Batman VS Superman VS Captain America

Episode Date: March 17, 2014

This week, we discuss the much in debate shared release date for Batman VS Superman and Captain America, canning Fox's Fantastic Four film and the best and worst costumes in Comic Book Movies. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Welcome. Thank you. I have no official standing in ComicBookMovie.com. I'm not an editor, not a writer, not the janitor. No. One day. One day I could work my way to janitor, yeah. Sure. Yeah.

Okay. Moving on to news, Mason. Okay. There was a big Marvel versus DC movie showdown this week. Oh, a showdown. You probably heard about it. Is this release dates related? You better believe it is.

Batman versus Superman a while back was moved to May 6, 2016 for a multitude of reasons. Mostly the creative people behind it were like, we need the most time to get the best movie. We need to release more news. More rumors. Exactly. Yeah. I mean, it's finished, but we need to put more rumors out. That's it.

So that date was also the date or is the date of what was an unspecified Marvel movie that was coming out that year. And the assumption was that it was going to be... Initially it was Doctor Strange. That was what the assumption was. Which is not a good...

That's not a good versus battle, really, is it? Batman versus Superman would crush Doctor Strange. Versus a guy no one's ever heard of. Yeah, exactly. So anyway...

Plus nobody likes magic. No. No, not really, no. You can't even go, oh, it's kind of like Harry Potter, because he's an old man. Yeah. Comparatively. Comparatively, sure. Daniel Maykiss, what's he, 35 now? Something like that.

Yeah, sure. But that's, yeah, that's a very one-sided battle. That's it. So anyway, Marvel, though, came out and said, listen, people assumed that they would move the date. Uh-huh. I never assumed that, or maybe I did, I don't they would move the date. I never assumed that. Or maybe I did.

I don't know. Because they're not one to do that. Anyway, they've come out and confirmed this week, we're not moving the date. We're keeping it. In addition to that, they've let it be known that Batman v Superman is going to go up against Captain America 3. Oh, power move. Power move indeed. First of all, balls to them for not doing it.

Yep. For not moving it. Batman v Superman, I think, would still beat Captain America numbers-wise. But I don't think it'll hurt Captain America, though. I think people would still see it. Yeah. Because apparently the second one, the early reviews have come out, press screenings or whatever, or, you know, Twitter buzz.

Uh-huh, sure. And it's all good. Outright lies. Outright lies, yeah. People just saying, hey, it sounds pretty good, and then that. People are just saying, people are just saying, hey, it sounds pretty good and then that gamer telephone goes all the way around

and it's like, everybody says it's great. The head of DC says it's the best movie he's ever seen. He left off a building. That's it, exactly. So, I mean, if Captain America 2 is strong

and some say it's the best Marvel movie yet, better than the Avengers, but, you know, who's to say? We'll know in a few weeks. But yeah, it could definitely do a bit of damage. I mean, a power move, especially in terms of Marvel clearly have so much faith in Captain America 2.

Yeah. They're just going to throw it. You know what? Make it... Here comes three. Yeah, exactly. And we're going to stack it against Batman Superman. Eat a bag of shit.

Yeah. Here comes three. So yeah, well, it's also been claimed that... against Batman Superman. Yeah. Eat a bag of shit. Yeah. Here comes three. So, yeah. Well, it's also been claimed that... I hope that's the tagline for Captain America 3. Eat a bag of shit. And it's just Batman on the poster eating a bag of shit. Yeah.

Captain America's not even on the poster. He's looking real sad. He's in Crime Alley. Above, like, the chalked outlines of his parents. But it was also been claimed, though, that now Batman v Superman is going to move to April 28th, the week before. There's also a Superman poster, and it's got nuggets of kryptonite in it. Like the worst mint choc ice cream you've ever seen. Anyway, I'm sorry, continue. You're right, yeah, let's say that Batman vs Superman

might move to April 28th the week before, so it doesn't impact on... Because it's really... They both probably take a bit of a hit. I think they'll be all right overall. But that would give Batman vs Superman a clear shot at the number one for that week, which I'll probably get anyway.

But that'll give them a bit more time. I feel like they couldn't, because that's like an ego thing. Yeah. Superman a clear shot at the number one which up for that week which I'll probably get anyway yeah but um that'll give him a bit more time I feel like I feel like couldn't because that's like an ego thing yeah like as if if they move it back a week they might

get more box office but then like the head honcho of Marvel will call a head honcho of DC and be like oh I didn't have the balls did we I'm sure you might make more money

but that's only because you moved it back a week yeah I think they will no you're probably right yeah I think there's honor at stake here that's it yeah I'm a money, but that's only because you moved it back a week. Yeah, yeah. I don't think they will. No, you're probably right. I think there's honour at stake here. That's it. Billionaire's honour.

That's right, billionaire's honour. I'm excited to see where this goes, though. I think Batman will beat it. But I would say at this point, if Captain America 2 is supposedly as good as good... You can do up that drink bottle, it's fine. Stop doing that face. He's doing a real awkward face because he's trying to slightly do up the lid of a Coke bottle. You're a real dickhead. But what was I saying?

I don't know. That face really threw me. It's how I do it. It's the magic of podcasting. Oh, what the hell was I saying? Just read your thing. I don't like reading it. I'm just going off the fly here.

No, it's all about April. No, that's right. I think at this point, I'm more excited for Captain America 3 because they have that much faith in it. It's pretty cool. Have they released

any plot details for Captain America 3 yet? No. Okay. I'm actually a little bit surprised that they haven't teased something for it yet. Probably right, yeah.

But hey, super excited. If you had to choose though, opening day, you can choose one. You've got a gun to your head, gun to your balls. What do you choose? Ah. You know that's because that's the worst case yeah absolutely yeah yeah yeah you might move your head out of the way but i think what they do that they shoot

you in the balls first let you ride around for a bit then they shoot you in the head that's true who would you who would you choose though if you had to um i reckon i have to go with batman superman yeah me too because we've seen what Captain American do yeah we know his skill set we know where most of the potential plots are going to go yeah

what's the worst that's going to happen the world's going to be at stake yeah like every other Marvel movie pretty much yeah so and we've never seen Batman Superman together on screen before

no we haven't so that's it yeah me too I mean obviously we're going to see both yeah but hey exciting times though Mason absolutely We've never seen Batman and Superman together on screen before. No, we haven't. So that's it. Yeah. Me too. I mean, obviously we're going to see both. Yeah. But hey, exciting times though, Mason.

Absolutely. Exciting times to be alive for something that's going to come out in two years. Absolutely. All right, let's move it along, Mason. Bleeding Cool, big website. I believe they're based in London, UK. Ooh. They've reported that Fox, 20th Century Fox, have dumped... Not a fox.

Not a fox. A fox got into their garbage cans and just made a real mess of things. Fox have dumped the Fantastic Four director, Josh Trank, the cast, and the script. Six months before shooting will begin on a movie. On this Fantastic Four movie. That's a rumour. That's a rumour. I don't think that's true. They said it was an inside source. Well, funny you say that, Mason.

Because then this rumour was debunked by multiple sources, including Slash Film and Collider, saying they're being in contact with their inside sources. Everyone's got an inside source, Mason. Yeah. Except for us. We don't have, we just, we've got secondhand inside sources. We just parrot what others say. Pretty much, yeah.

Yeah. But I like to think we put a delightful spin on it. Like the poster of Batman eating a bag of poo. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. You went to that on Bloody Cool, were you? Yeah.

I mean, maybe you'll see him eating a crumpet that's been smeared with, like, bird excrement or something like that. A British delicacy. That's a nice British spin, yeah. Yeah. So, that was denied. So, I guess that's the end of spin, yeah. Yeah. So that was denied. So I guess that's the end of it, Mason. Why did...

Or is it? Sorry, did you want to say something? I was going to say, why do Bleeding Cool have the... Why do they think they have the scoop? Hasn't this ruined their credibility somewhat? Well, you know, it's hard to say. This came out Saturday. Like a bunch of bleeding fools.

Yes. This will probably... You know, there'll probably be more info on this by the time this podcast comes out. So when everyone hears this They'll probably Be like you guys are idiots You jumped the gun You're ahead of the times

But at the same time Way behind Yeah weird But anyway Bleeding Cool responded to the denials With the following We remain confident in our No continue

They're British Yeah We remain confident in our source Bleeding Cool suggests That if fox would really like to stomp on the rumor they should stop approaching this is really difficult they should stop approaching folk to replace the director and to write a new screenplay interesting so there you go yeah did you catch that none of it i was making my little noises it's pretty great basically

they're saying that if fox wanted to stomp on the room, then they should stop approaching people to replace the director and write a new screenplay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they're saying, no, what we're saying is a fact. Oh. So there you go. Yeah. Go on.

I have news, but... Oh, I was going to say, I think it would be unfortunate. The only thing that would be beneficial about this is that Marvel would get back the Fantastic Four, which we've both established we don't care about. It's irrelevant. It's irrelevant. It's gone. I think it would be a shame to the director, Josh Trank,

because he's taken a lot of heat for this already, which I think is unfair. Because if they're going to direct your anger, direct it at Fox. Don't direct it at him. Yeah, yeah. He doesn't seem like a bad guy by any stretch. And also the cast.

I think it's unfair on the cast. Even though a lot of people don't like the cast or whatever, I'm okay with it. You're okay with it, I'm assuming. It's totally fine. Exactly. So I think that's rough when you put all your heart and soul into something and then it gets yanked away from you.

That would be rough, I'd imagine. So from that perspective, it sucks. But if that's true, fantastic, I guess, if it's going back to Marvel. Because if they don't start making it, the rights will then revert to Marvel. Exactly, yeah. And then Fox have only got most of the X-Men and, I don't know, someone else. Yeah, whatever else they've got. Yeah.

It's fine. So there you go. Here's some news for you. I love news. You ready for this? Terminator Genisys. Wait, no. It's not British.

I've got this. Terminator Genisys adds J.K. Simmons to cast. I assume as the role of J. Jonah Jameson in a post-apocalyptic landscape. That was my next piece of news. So he's going to play a weary and alcoholic detective who follows a bizarre case involving Sarah Connor and robots over three decades. But he also owns a major metropolitan newspaper, right? And he sits in his chair and he swivels around and he gets

angry how good would that movie be just put him into the Terminator universe that would be the best yeah

I thought you'd be happy with that so good isn't he great he's great at everything yeah he's the best

anything else we need to say about that before we move it along to something else um no but I think we were right

last time and they're inserting they're inserting this new film into continuity. Yep. So it's a Star Trek reboot, essentially. Essentially, yeah.

They've changed the... They're rebooting it, but they're doing it in continuity, and so nerds can't get angry about it. Yeah. Because they're like, well, due to the logic of time travel, I guess that has to work. Well, that's it. Exactly. Yeah, yeah.

I think that's a soft way... Not a soft way. I think it's a soft way. Not a soft way. I think it's a safe way to do a reboot. If you can do time travel in your movies, it's probably the best way to do it. Yes, exactly. Yeah. But they'll probably eventually do it to Back to the Future.

Oh, yeah. Oh, that's a really good point. Mark my bloody words, Mason. Yeah, it's a really good point. I hope they never do. Do you think they will CGI Michael J. Fox's face on a kid's body? I think they'll get... Like Terminator style.

I would love it if that was the case. Yes. I think they will do that. Sure. Okay. Yeah, Sebastian Stan. I always get him. He's the guy who's playing the Winter Soldier

in the upcoming Captain America and the Winter Soldier. He's the soldier. The soldier. I always get him and the guy who played Darth Vader when the mask gets pulled off. His name's Sebastian Shaw, I think his name is. No, Sebastian Shaw's the head of the Hellfire Club. Is he?

Oh, yeah, he is too. Yeah. Well, whoever the guy plays Darth Vader is, I always get him confused, so I wrote it down. It doesn't matter. It's Hayden Christensen now. That's right. Who cares?

Who cares who that guy was? It's said that he's... Oh, he said that he signed a nine-pitcher Marvel deal. Nine pitches? Nine pitches. He gets to take nine pictures oh any pictures he wants from stanley's office that's right but he can only take it from stanley's later works so he can only take it from like the one the like he can take animation cells

from like mighty seven which is where animated stanley discovers aliens yeah he can take some of those he can take like the he can take some of those. He can take, like, the... He can take, like, Stan Lee's, like, Superman or whatever, where he reimagined Superman for DC and all the... I remember that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All the DC, he can take some of those. So only the stuff that everybody hates.

Yeah, pretty much. Okay, cool. Well, that's a great deal for him in a way. Isn't it, though? Yeah. Okay, so what are his nine pictures? Well, okay. Winter Soldier Solo?

Well, yeah, this is the rumor. Anyway, this is what some people think. Chris Evans has three appearances left. Okay. Remember that one that happened in Thor Dark World? That counts as one. Does that count as one? Doesn't count. Okay, right.

Doesn't count towards his deals. They must have just gave him a little bit of extra cash or gun to his head, gun to his dick. Right. Exactly. They made him do it. Yep. So, and they're saying that they're going to kill off Captain...

And he can only put the shield to one of those things. That's right. Exactly. Yeah. This is a real weird inward one of those things. That's right, exactly. Yeah. This is a real weird inward take of breath there. Did you hear that? Keep it in. Okay.

He's only got three left, Chris Evans, though. That's a lot, though. It's still a lot. Especially because one of them is going to be an Avengers movie. Yeah, and that's... And a Captain America 3 movie. That's 10 years, surely. Yeah.

Three pictures. Well, you've got your Avengers, you've got your Captain America 3, which is now confirmed. Uh-huh. And something else. So, they're saying that he might take on the captain america role then as he did in the comics yeah yeah which is a really good run of captain america i've only haven't i think i've only flicked through it uh-huh you've read it right yeah yeah it's great right break is running really great yeah they say it's one of the best if not the best captain

america story yeah i mean i think i think you know 10 years ago if you'd said we're going to do a massive run of Captain America and Captain America is not going to be in it at all because he's dead and it's just going to be the supporting characters

people would say that's insane pack up your desk you can take two things from Stanley's office that's all you can take you can take one

you can take you can take a still from his appearance in that Kevin Smith film that he was in which one was he in Mallrats he was in Mallrats you can take a still from that and you can take a still from his appearance in that Kevin Smith film that he was in. Which one was he in? Mallrats.

He was in Mallrats. You can take a still from that. And you can take a prop from the set of Stanley's real life superheroes. Okay, yeah, yeah. You can take that. I'd take the picture of him and Yoan Griffith from Fantastic Four 2. Oh, absolutely. Sure, yeah.

Rise of the Silver Surfer. That's what I'd take. When he played the mailman, Willy Lumpkin. Willy Lumpkin, yes. So, yeah, I think that would be a bold move to do and a good thing. He can always bring back

Captain America afterwards. Nine is a lot of films. Nine is a lot. Nine is a lot of films. Samuel L. Jackson signs something like that and he's mostly through it. That's true.

But I mean, how much do we have left of this Marvel Universe? Do you think they're going to reboot the whole thing? I think they're going to go to phase three then they're going to

do something else. Okay, so he's going to be in... Is Captain America 2 his first one? Does that count as his first one? I think they're going to go to Phase 3 then they're going to do something else. Okay, so we're going to have to so he's going to be in, is Winter Soldier is Captain America 2 his first one? Does that count as his first one? I don't think so, no. Okay, well then it's Captain America 3, Winter Soldier solo film. Yeah. Probably. Avengers 3. Avengers 3. And that'll be it. Willy Lumpkin movie.

Obviously. You know? So yeah. Yeah. I mean, you can always re-contract people. Uh-huh. The What The Movie? The 1980s parody comic? He'll be in that? Oh, jeez. Yeah.

I don't know what that is. The What The? It was like the... It was Marvel's parody comic. You know? Iron Man? Oh, God. Okay.

What was Captain America called? I'm sure... Um... Charlie America. What? It doesn't really make any sense. What does that got to do...

It doesn't matter. So Iron Man is Ironing Man. Well, there were all kinds of different parodies. There was no continuity.

Was it a universe? Not really. No. No, no. Pick up that issue, guys. Yeah, definitely do that, yeah.

Sounds like a real... Yeah. Just a great piece of writing. Shut up. You weren't there. No. The 80s were a strange time.

Fuck the 80s. Okay, fair enough. I've said that before, I'll say it again. Yeah. But so there, there you go. I'd like to see him take on the Captain Marvel. He'll make an appearance in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.? Oh yeah, I don't think that counts.

No, and also it'll be cancelled. Well, you know what though? Yes. I did an interview last week with EarthEagleGT. I think I mentioned this to you. In our private life. Oh yeah, absolutely, sure, yeah. He's a great guy. That's going up on his YouTube channel I think I mentioned this to you in our private life. Oh yeah, absolutely. Sure, yeah.

He's a great guy. That's going up on his YouTube channel soon, I presume. If it's not there already. I forgot to ask him when it goes up. I should.

But basically, that show I think is getting better, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Definitely started slow. But the last two in particular have got quite interesting. Hmm.

Yeah. You know what? He'd be, in the what the movie, he'd be Summer Soldier. And he'd just wear board shorts, like florally board shorts. And he'd be putting sunscreen on his robot arm. It'd be, ah, man, if I could go back in time, I would write for What The.

In an ideal world. Yeah. So, yeah, there you go. Look, Mason, we also caught our first look at Constantine this week from the Constantine TV series. Yes, we did, absolutely. Pretty dead on, right? Yes. Close enough.

I mean, in a still. Yeah, in a still. In a, you know, one single shot. Yeah. What we assume will be hundreds of thousands of... Well, that's it. Yeah. Exactly.

But it looks... It's dead on. They're still tossing up whether to make him smoke or not. Because it's for network television and that. Right. You kind of have to make him smoke a little bit, don't you? Yes. Yeah.

I mean, how could they work around it? You can't really. They could. Is it... It's not going to be attached to the continuity of the movie at all? No. Okay. Maybe they could give him...

Like... Nicorette? Yeah, Nicorette. They could do a Nicorette tie-in? I guess they could give him a cancer scare in flashbacks or something like that. Okay. Because, you know, with Arrow, they go back and he's a jerk in the flashbacks, more or less. You could have in flashbacks, he's a jerk and he smokes.

Okay, yeah. Or whatever. And then he's turning over a new leaf in the pilot or whatever. Yeah. And he's still a jerk, but he just doesn't smoke anymore. Okay. That could kind of work. Sure.

Yeah. Just make him smoke. Yeah, I was going to say, people won't. People won't, except, you know, that is sort of't smoke anymore. Okay. That could kind of work. Sure. Just make him smoke. Yeah, I was going to say, people won't. People won't, except, you know, that is sort of a key ingredient. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. As women, our life stages come with unique risk factors, like high blood pressure developed during pregnancy,

which can put us two times more at risk of heart disease or stroke. Know your risks. Visit heartandstroke.ca We also got our first full body look at The Flash. We did, yeah. What did you think of that? Well, full body look, but he's kind of, he's in the crouched running pose. There's that one.

It's front on. Yes. And it's like a, obviously it's a planned proper shot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's very crimson. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's very crimson. Yes. But there's actually on-set photos.

I haven't seen those. Okay, you've got to check them out. Do that right now. Let's not pause, though. Why would we? Can we talk about it? Because the very first image, and I think we talked about it a couple of weeks ago, he's got the lightning bolts on the side of his head. He doesn't have the wings.

And side-on, I'm like, oh, that's really interesting. That actually looks great. But from front-on... They're stuck out a little bit. No, I find that it just kind of looks odd, because he looks like a runner in a... Like a kind of a... Like his spandex bodysuit.

Or like a skier or something like that. Yeah, that's what I run in, I know. Yeah, absolutely. But having, you know, 50-plus years of the character looking a certain way, without the wing, like front on shot without the wings, it does look kind of weird. Aren't they a little bit pop out? The lightning bolts?

Not really. No. Maybe I read that wrong. I mean, just barely, yeah. But I don't know. I like the textures. Sure. I think they should have done a side on photo.

Or like a front, sort of a front to side-on photo. Okay, yeah, yeah. So we can see him standing up and running full body. Yep. See, they are stuck out a little bit. There you go. Yeah, tiny. Okay, yeah, yeah.

Tiny bit. I reckon that looks weird. I can't find his on-set photos that you're talking about. Sure. I'm assuming you've made them up. Okay, it's reminiscent of Arrow. Yeah, very much so. Yeah, okay.

Boy, I don't know. I'm torn now. Yeah, it's a little weird. I thought there was going to okay um boy i don't know i'm torn now yeah it's a little weird i thought there was going to be more i don't know it's lacking a little in texture it's it's kind of weird like it's sort of pieced together it's like a weird material yeah it's like a little bit baggy in part it is a little baggy i mean yeah i mean that's in motion i'm you know you film in a certain way and you know you get whatever shots you want but like it's a bit baggy under his arm yeah yeah yeah i think it's a little off i But it's a bit baggy under his arm. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it's a little off.

I think it's a little off too. They'll fix it in post. Well, that's right, exactly. I mean, it's early days. Who cares? But, you know, I don't know. Weird belt. It's fine, I guess.

Yeah, it'll be fine once they tweak it. But you know what, Mason? But on the other hand, here's him and Green Arrow having fun on set. Like a couple of good mates, which I enjoy. That's a good photo. Yep. Good for them. Yep. Good for them. But I thought, Mason. Yes. here's him and Green Arrow having fun on set like a couple of good mates which I enjoy that's a good photo yep good for them yep

good for them but I thought Mason yes sings as we haven't done a kind of best and worst kind of podcast episode for a while years

and people have suggested that we do more stuff like that less news they say more topics oh okay so you know fair enough some people say

probably shouldn't have done all that news up top then I make my own rules Mason and then I break them and then I make new rules Okay. So, you know, fair enough. Some people say more... Probably shouldn't have done all that news up top then. I make my own rules, Mason, and then I break them. And then I make new rules, which I then keep. Probably should have set those rules initially. I don't mean to tell you your job, but it seems like a massive waste of time. So basically, Cody Nestor requested this topic. Probably a few others as well, but he was the first to write in and say,

can you do one on... Do you think he's related to Cody Chestnut there was no reason that is not the case yeah that's what I mean Cody Chestnut from he's in that he's in

that movie isn't Empire Records isn't he let's not dwell on it sure maybe I doubt it but yes he's definitely related to that okay good good yeah he suggested best

and worst comic book movie costumes now we just talked about costumes exactly exactly that's very not a coincidence that's how well the show is planned Yeah, he suggested best and worst comic book movie costumes. We just talked about costumes. Exactly. Exactly. That's very funny. Not a coincidence. That's how well this show is planned.

Huh. Huh. That's weird because I don't do any planning. How does the planning get done? I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. It's amazing.

It's a miracle. Isn't it though? That's what that is. Yeah. So I thought maybe we could talk about the best and worst comic book costumes and not just restricted to that, to movies or not particularly, it could also extend to design. Okay. For example, the Hulk in the Ang Lee one is kind of weird, but the Hulk in the Avengers

is really cool. There we go. So there's your first one, Mason. Wow. So let's go back and forth. We could do heaps of these, because that was real quick. We can. Do you want me to kick it off, or do you want me to kick it off?

Yeah, kick it off, mate. Sure. All right, well look, I thought starting off with costume or design, call it either way, the original Iron Man costume from Iron Man 2008. Yes. Even though looking back, it's clearly probably not the best Iron Man costume design,

but I remember at the time when that came out, you probably thought the same because you're a big Iron Man fan. That is absolutely dead on and looks amazing. Yes, it was, yeah. Yeah. And in terms of they finally got... big Iron Man fan, that is absolutely dead on and looks amazing. Yes, it was, yeah. And in terms of, they finally got, it's a CG design, they've got the textures right. Yeah.

And you know, bullet damage or... You can see the scuffs. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. That's exactly it. Golden. So there you go. Don't make that in the 90s. No.

Good idea. That's right, yeah. And a lot of that is though, often Tony Stark's wearing the real chest piece uh-huh yeah and they'll like cg on the arms or the hands or whatever stuff like that yeah so it's a good mixture of practical and real and even if they cgi the whole suit they put him in something so he has to walk a certain way right so then when they cgi over the top of it they get his walk exactly right because his arms are a little more out when he's got the suit on yeah he's got a little bit more height on him you know and you open there by saying that it may not be the best design yeah how do you mean what would have made a better design i think the

no sorry the best version of the suit i'm going to say sorry so i think the avengers version not the triangle chest one he starts with the one he gets is better well that's an evolution that's an evolution yeah i know yeah again. Yeah, I know. Yeah, again. I'm the same, mate. I thought you meant what version of the comic book. Oh, okay. Which I know your favorite is the one that's like the massive bulky one that's yellow. Yes, that is my favorite. It's your favorite one?

Yeah. That's exactly it. My favorite one from the movie, and I was going to talk about this later, but may as well bring it up now. Who cares? Is the one from the suitcase suit. I meant to, sure. Yeah.

Mark 5. Mark 5. Yeah. And even though it doesn't, like it doesn't do as much as the suitcase suit. I meant to, sure. Yeah. Mark V. And even though it doesn't do as much as the other ones, I think the design of that is awesome. I think it's called... No, it's not called the Centurion. I can't remember. I like the silver and on the red. The silver Centurion is the one...

It was the one from the 70s. Yeah. He was red and gold for pretty much forever. And then when he lost his company to Obadiah Stane and he came back, that's when he built the Silver Centurion and it blew people's minds. Because they're like, it's not gold. What? But that gets a very, very quick appearance in Iron Man 3.

Yeah. For about two minutes. It does, yeah. Which I thought was a waste. Yeah. Until it explodes. There was a lot of waste. Yeah, until it explodes.

It was cut in half. The Iron Man 3 suit divides fans, Mason. Because it was a waste. Yeah, until it explodes. There was a lot of waste. Yeah, until it explodes. It was cut in half. The Iron Man 3 suit divides fans, Mason, because it's very gold. The 42, yeah. The 42. What do you think? It's okay. Yeah. It's fine.

I remember when I saw stills for it, I was like... But then when you see it in action, it's all right. Yeah, yeah. But it's certainly not the best one. No. Yeah. Which we've established. Is the Avengers one.

Yeah. Doesn't matter. It's got so many missiles. All right, Mason, Which we've established. Is the Avengers one. Yeah. Doesn't matter. It's got so many missiles. All right, Mason, I've got another. I've got a worse though. I'm going to go best, worst, and I'm going to throw it to you. Like a football, because we love sport. So why not use a sporting analogy to do this podcast?

Oh, yeah. Catwoman, 2005. Yep. That's a real hole in one. Oh. Halle Berry's weird leather pants and leather bra with the badgers mask

yeah and weird leather strips torn off the pants you aren't you aren't gonna go worst armoured

armoured costume because it's steel because it's steel okay I should have done that yeah well do you want to talk about steel now as well

it's not good and he rides a motorcycle and he doesn't fly and there's no cape no other than that though it's pretty good yeah it's pretty great motorcycle. He does. And he doesn't fly. And there's no cape. No. Other than that, though, it's pretty good.

Yeah, it's pretty great, though. Yeah, you're right. But yeah, the Catwoman... Anyone want to talk about Catwoman? Yeah, no, I'll come back to Steel. But the Catwoman one is... Yeah, it's not good. I remember seeing... I remember they printed that

in the newspaper. Uh-huh. Like the proper newspaper. Back when we had newspapers. Back when we used to have newspapers. Uh-huh. If newspapers got delivered to my house, there would just be

a pile of newspapers out of France. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, come on, guys. Which would later become a bonfire. I hate it when I get the local paper in my fucking letterbox. I pull it out and I'm like, every fucking week with this shit. Nobody reads this.

It's like a phone book. Why are you sending me a fucking phone book? That's it. That's all I have to say. Good. Well, now we can close out the podcast because that was your vendetta for the week it's against local community apparently

I just yeah well I am against local community I don't care if there's you've built a new fucking retaining wall at the local kindergarten what about a skate park no

are you against a skate park fuck off with your skate park wow I hate skate parks do whatever you know, build them or whatever. But I don't care.

Okay, good. Garbage. Oh, who's the new mayor? The local shyer mayor. Who gives a fuck? You don't do anything. Just collect my bin and fucking leave me alone.

Am I wrong? I'm fucking not wrong. Email in listeners. This should be your video for the week, I think. Just about this? Yeah, absolutely. God, I'm going to wrong. Email in listeners. This should be your video for the week, I think. Just about this? Yeah, absolutely.

God, I'm going to stop. Anyway, Catwoman. Yeah. How did that set you off? I have no idea. I fucking hate local council. Leave me alone. That's what I'm saying.

Okay, good. Fuck. Well, you'll edit most of this out. It'll be fine. I hope so, yeah. Dine in to drink a water. Anyway, that's potentially the worst costume ever. Sure.

You know what I mean yeah yeah but um do you want to open with the next one or do you want to talk about Catwoman for a little bit

I didn't see it I drew the line I mean I've only seen bits and pieces but yeah I remember that I said that earlier this week

that that was the point when we used to see everything and Catwoman was coming out and we knew it was terrible and it looked terrible and I'm like hey let's go see Catwoman

and you went no this is this is it this is it this is the line this is the line I drew a line with my heat vision just in front of the cinema and I'm like, hey, let's go see Catwoman. And you went, no, this is... This is it. This is it. This is the line. This is the line. I drew a line with my heat vision just in front of the cinema and I'm like, no, we're not crossing this.

Yeah, yeah. You know, you've got a list here of costumes. I do. And you've got one here and I don't know if it's worst or best. Yeah. Stallone, Judge Dredd. Yes. Okay.

I'm going to say best costume. No, I'm going to say... That is accurate, more or less. Yeah, it's accurate, but you know why I put it as worst? Because... Well, I don't know you put it at worst because it doesn't say. Oh, sorry. Well, it is worst because he takes it off for most of it and he's just running around

in a black spandex for most of it. Yeah. Because it's just like a weird plastic shoulders and a dumb helmet and he just runs around in black spandex for the rest of it. Uh-huh. Or like a tank top or whatever he wears in the desert on the on the flip side of that the new judge dread suit even though it might not be as comic accurate yeah at least it's functional and it looks cool yeah and that's an

infinitely better movie so i would say worst alone best dread there you go yeah i'm just gonna say for comic value alone stallone best costume ever europe and also i'm pretty sure that eagle, you tap it on the head, it's got like a water cooler in it. The eagle on his shoulder, you just push down and you just fill up a glass of water. That's pretty good. Yeah, it is. It sure is. Yeah. What about Watchmen?

Yes. I think all of Watchmen, the costumes are generally pretty good. They're fine. Yeah. The guy liked the design. You know, they put on the Osmanthus, they put nipples on his costume as a kind of a joke about the Batman and Robin scenario or whatever. But I think Rorschach in particular is an amazing costume.

It's dead on. I like how the mask moves because, you know, it does shift a little bit in the comics. But actually, even though it's, you know, what kind of mask can actually do that? Well, not in the real world. No, they do make things like that where when you breathe the guy sells them on the internet and that changes the shape

of the mask interesting because the heat changes so you can get something like that so I think that costume in particular is great and there's little attention to detail

on that as well if you notice he wears heels in the comics and you can see in the movie he wears heels as well because Rorschach's a little guy

but he's very dangerous and Jackie O' highly real guy yeah also very dangerous so yeah yeah that costume very good yeah i think they did and it did kind of feel like elements of it were sort of parodies of say you know batman and robin or batman forever or something like that yeah like the absolute kind of the the the pinnacle of kind of weird Nipply Almond costumes like I thought the you know the Night Owl 2 costume was not

it wasn't particularly accurate to no it wasn't the comic but in terms of like a parody of of your Batman Forever or whatever I think that was quite I think it was good and it looked kind of

it looked very impressive yeah I agree Silk Spectre was pretty much the same yep you know what though I didn't love or whatever, I think that was quite... I think it was good. And it looked kind of... It looked very impressive. Yeah, I agree. Yeah. Silk Spectre was pretty much the same. Yep. You know what, though? I didn't love Doctor Manhattan. I didn't think that was the best CGI. Because you didn't see as much of his dong as you wanted?

That was the main thing, yeah. That's what I thought, yeah. More dong. More Doctor Dong. That's what I'd say. No, he's fine, though. Yeah. I also think, on the flip side of that,

different movie. Winter Soldier versus Dr. Bong. That's going to be one of his nine pictures there. Love it. I'll see if I can get to nine by the end. Please do. I'm not counting them, though, so it doesn't matter. Somebody count it for me.

Sure. Yeah, yeah. The Amazing Spider-Man suit from The Amazing Spider-Man 2012. It's a weird kind of... It's like a luge suit you know from the luge I can think he even buys it from an online website that sells luge

yep suits so it's like a weird shiny kind of material luge.com yeah that's right and the glasses part

you can see him in it because he actually takes them off a pair of sunglasses so he's got weird kind of yellow reflecty lenses I know you haven't seen the magazine I haven't seen it

I've never talked about this before but it's it's certainly not awful, but it's weird. And it looks wet. Yeah, it's... It's like shiny and wet. Yeah, it's no good.

In a creepy way, sure. But also, though, the web shooters on that look pretty cool. So that part of it's good, but the other part's not so good. Which you prefer, Top Gun or Spider-Man costume? Yeah, definitely.

But I think the one in the upcoming movie, The Amazing Spider-Man 2, is probably the best one so far. How have they tweaked it, though? Yeah, they tweaked it big time. Design-wise, or just... Yes. It looks more like the Tobey Maguire one

and more comic book-y. Got the white lenses back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's very bright. Uh-huh. I like a lot of that new movie shot in the daytime as well, because they tried to make The Amazing Spider-Man very kind of dark night,

brooding and whatever, which doesn't really work for Spider-Man. Yeah, he's a daytime guy. He's a daytime guy. He's a daytime fun guy. Yeah. So, yeah. But anyway.

Do you want to do the next one? Yes. You've got Two-Face and Two-Face. Yes, I do. Uh-huh. So, Tommy Lee Jones' Two-Face is best, obviously. Obviously. Yeah.

And Aaron Eckhart, worst. Because it looks really painful. Yeah, it does, doesn't it? So, yeah. That Aaron Eckhart one, though, obviously that is best. It's hard to look at. Yes. Because it looks really rough.

It's not really a costume, that's more your design. No, it's design, yeah. And as I said, Mason... I know! I'm just pulling you up on it. But, yeah, I think that's... It's frightening. You can see his eye sockets kind of exposed. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Uh-huh. Like, you can see through his cheek. Yes. But the Tommy Lee Jones one, they just painted one side of his face purple. Yes. And it's stupid. And he's got a half leopard print suit. Yeah.

And half regular suit. And it's also... It's... Completely symmetrical. Completely in the middle. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's dumb. Yeah.

Yeah. So, no. Don't like it. Uh-huh. And, you know, even though the Two-Face Batman from The Dark Knight is set in the real world and blah, blah, blah, that's easily the best Two-Face design. Easily. Let me think.

It's great. Yeah, it is great. Yeah. Maybe not from the comics or whatever, but I'm talking anything we've seen on the screen or any fan film, I'd imagine. Yeah, I know. I think you're probably right. Like, traditionally, your comic book Two-Face,

like, one side of his face is green, maybe, or... Yeah. I think... What is he in the animated series? It's like chalk white on one side. Yeah, something like that, yeah. You know, I think this is probably the best. Yeah, sure. I'm sure there's certain comics that do it better,

but no, I think it's great. It just... It looks all gravelly and fucked up. How do you think they explain that in the context of the comic books? Like, he's trying different make-ups on it every time? Maybe, yeah, yeah every time oh you're looking pretty good today

toothpaste yeah well you know having a good foundation yeah I'm using what's that celebrity

oh I know the one that's always on the late night ads yeah yeah yeah this would be funny if it was smooth Jessica Simpson uses it

active pro proactive there we go. Yeah, yeah. Get into it. Yeah. We just got paid $10,000 for that as well. That's pretty great, yeah.

What's that one call? What's that dumb ad call for the dumb product that idiots use? That rich idiots use? What do they use? Oh, yeah. $10,000. That's it. We're rich.

This next one's a bit controversial, Mason. I've got some things to say. Uh-huh. The Dark Knight suit. Even though I know it's not... I think the knight suit is the best batman suit we have seen yeah even though it's not exactly comic accurate and i don't like that they made it it's very it's probably too real world but i like the fact that you can turn the neck i like that you can fight properly in it uh-huh you know it's not you're not stuff stuck in this weird stiff suit with where

your neck is forced to look directly ahead. It's very functional in that way. Do you like it? Yes. Why is that better than the Dark Knight Rises suit? They're the same. They're the same. Okay, good.

I was just joking. Or they're cracked for all intents and purposes. I like it. I don't like the cape. Okay. Because the cape is too clothy. It is very clothy. It's clothy. It is very clothy. It's clothy and it's... Because the suit is kind of...

It's that, you know, pseudo-metallic, plasticky whatever material. And the cape is just really dark black cloth. Yeah. I think that looks... A little off. That's a weird contrast. I think it should be more of a leathery cape. Yeah, absolutely.

Like Batman 89. Yes. Which I do want to talk about. You've marked that down as you want to talk about that one. I do. What do you think about the Superman? I think the Batman cape should be more like the Superman cape from Man of Steel. Obviously not red.

Oh, red. Yes, red. That's all CGI, that cape, most of the time. Okay. And that's why it looks so great, I think, anyway. Well, certainly CGI red capes have moved on a long time. They've moved a long way since Spawn. They sure have, Mason.

Yeah. I didn't put Spawn down here. I kind of like that. Yeah, I'm okay with it. The only problem with the Spawn... The only problem with the movie was kind of terrible. The only problem with the Spawn costume, which I think looked great at the time.

I remember loving it. Is that he never really... The cape was sort of... I guess the cape was really expensive to build so you very rarely saw it he was just

sort of wandering around yeah he looked kind of like Venom for most of the film that's exactly it and he also there was a scene

where he he goes to hell and he sees thousands of other sort of spawned creatures and he kills them all but he's not wearing the cape

so he just looks like one of several thousand of these clones. Yeah, well, you're right. I remember I pretended that we were seeing another movie with a friend because I was underage at the time.

I think we said we were going to see Jack or some shit. It was a Jack or something like that. And then we bought tickets for Jack and then went and watched Spawn. Snuck into Spawn. Yeah, that's it. And it blew my mind. Yeah. The Violator was pretty close in that, wasn't he?

Yeah, he was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember at the start, he blows up the... He's supposed to be a world-class assassin. And at the start of the film, he just blows up a plane with a multi-warhead missile. I don't remember. I could have done that.

Yes, you could. So easy. Why don't you? But Michael J. White, he's still around. Yeah, he's still around. He's Bronze Tiger in Arrow. That's it, exactly. He's great.

Yeah, yeah. He's really good. This guy's got like nine black belts. Does he? Yeah. I guess he's. He's Bronze Tiger. That's it. Exactly. He's great. Yeah, yeah. He's really good. He's got like nine black belts. Does he? Yeah. I guess he's alright then. We could probably take him.

I guarantee you if he was asleep, I could definitely like knife him. Yeah. He'd have to be very asleep. Very asleep. But don't do it though.

No. You can't really take the chance. I'm calling him out. Okay. You're in, right? You said we could take him. Oh yeah, I guess I did.

Yeah, okay. I find him in. You guy on my shoulders will fight him like that. Okay, cool. I want to talk about Batman 89. Yes. Because I know at the time that costume was amazing. Uh-huh. And it is, sure.

But at the same time, if you look at most pictures of the Batman 89, there's a weird gap between his face and the sides of the mask. Uh-huh. Like, you could slide a full human hand in there on either side. It doesn't fit... Or like a small hand grenade. Or a small hand grenade, sure. Like it doesn't fit snugly to his face.

Not only that, in Batman Returns, which actually gets a better suit in Batman Returns, a more kind of armory kind of looking one. Less abs. With less abs. Yeah, I never liked the weird plastic fake abs on anything. It always looks weird. That mask peels off like a weird fruit roll-up.

It did, didn't it? It sort of tore off, yeah. And I think it was you that told me, like, you saw a Michael Keaton interview where you couldn't, they couldn't film Batman getting out of the Batmobile because it was such a difficult suit to move in. It was super awkward, yeah. So they'd cut to him stepping out and then him standing up.

Yeah, they'd get some grips or whatever to pull him out with a little crane. Yeah, that's it. So, no, and not only that, it's really weird and kind of smudgy. Like, it's like a kind of grey and black kind of smudgy. Like, it's got handprints all over it. Okay. Like, it's been hand-moulded. Uh-huh.

It improves in the second one, like I said, but that suit is weird and I don't like it see but and I think I think the 89 suit that set the template yes it did I think for every for all costumes

in movies I think yeah because it's just they're like okay this was the first one or maybe it was just Burton being Burton yeah

but I think people realise that this was this was the point at which filmmakers realised you can't just translate something directly to the screen. It's not going to work. Yeah.

It looks ridiculous. It does, yeah. It was the era where people realised that stuff in comic books was ridiculous. Let's just not throw it up there and hope that the mainstream accepts this. They won't. They will mock us and wedge us. I think I'm really looking forward to the new Batman suit. By all accounts

it looks amazing that's what we've heard it's more comic accurate and I'm I think that's gonna be the best one you think we're gonna find a happy midpoint

yeah do you like the long ears or the short ears I like long ears I like short ears huh there you go this is

the end this podcast is over so yeah there you go you like shorties I like shorties yeah I know it's a little too daredevil

some of them but I prefer short to medium short yeah that was one of the options I like my bad ears done medium short yeah good

that was one of the options when they were planning on replacing Batman during the you know the dark period of the 90s before they went with

replacing with Azrael yep I think I've probably talked about this in my podcast before. They were just going to take the ears off and make him Caped Crusader. What? That was an actual plan they had. That's terrible.

Like, get the Bat logo off, get rid of the ears, Caped Crusader. That is the worst idea that anyone's ever had. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I've had some terrible ideas. Yes. About local council. Absolutely. That's why you didn't get elected.

That's right. so there you go but yeah instead they were like let's uh let's cripple him instead yeah that's better I guess

the idea was I think because you haven't talked about this by the way okay because the idea with Superman was you know

Superman's kind of getting on in years maybe people want to change kind of thing let's see how this goes. But as I understand it, the editorial decision for Batman was,

you know, upper management were like, you have to change everything, you have to make everything more extreme, because it was the 90s extreme. And editorials planned with Batman, as I understand it, was to give everybody a change that they wouldn't like.

And so eventually they would demand a return to classic Batman. It's like New Coke. Yeah, like New Coke. Exactly like New Coke. All right. But so they were like, well, let's make Caped Crusader. And people will be like, this is weird and dumb. And they were like, well, let's replace him with Azrael

and make him as extreme as we possibly can. Let's put flamethrowers in the suit. And let's have him just riddle people with little razor-sharp bat symbols and whatever and shoot down helicopters and all this sort of stuff. Yeah. Until people are like, actually, this has gone way too far.

We actually like Batman as Batman. Yeah, yeah. Okay. That was a pretty smart play, I guess. That was also the plan with Spider-Man, I think. Which one? The Clone Saga. Do you remember the Clone Saga? Yeah, I think. Which one? The Clone Saga. Do you remember the Clone Saga?

Yeah, I didn't read it. No, you didn't. It's supposed to be one of the worst. That killed comic books for me for about 10 years. Yeah. I stopped reading for a really long time after that. But the idea was, like, young people aren't relating to Spider-Man anymore. Yeah, yeah.

Because he's kind of, like, he's got a good job. Like, he's teaching and he's married to a supermodel, no less. Yes. You know, that kind of thing. Everything's kind of working out for him. So, like, how do we get him back to kind supermodel no less you know that kind of thing everything's kind of working out for him so they're like how do we get him back

to kind of a like a 60s status quo you know and make him more relatable and the first plan was like hey should we have him get divorced

which wouldn't have worked because he'd just be like a sad like a sad divorced dude middle aged divorced guy like Milhouse's dad yeah like Milhouse's dad

he would have become a superpowered Milhouse's dad but then they were like oh you know actually what we could do because we found this clone saga storyline from many years ago yeah let's just kind of bring back that guy we'll have spider we'll have peter parker lose his powers go off into the sunset with his wife and his kid you know he's right pregnant wife and then we'll replace spider-man with ben reilly he'll become spider-man he'll be new and extreme and cool yeah and he'll be single and he can be a swinging single guy who's just trying to figure out life again which went for like three years

yeah people got tired of it yeah and he's dead and i'm glad he's dead no didn't also wasn't also like oh maybe he's the real spider-man it was for a while but then it turned out that it wasn't yeah yeah yeah so they just went back on that so the only interesting thing about that that then kind of squashed yes immediately yeah yeah yeah man the clone saga it's pretty good where were we uh i think i think i maintain i maintain that the 90s spider the ben riley spider-man costume was great was that the hoodie no that was scarlet spider okay that was the extreme 90s version of spider-man with scarlet Spider. What's the Ben Reilly costume? It was like...

I'll pull it up for you. You would love it, mate. Maybe. Don't presume that I would love things. Okay, fine. It was kind of 90s, but I think it totally worked. They sort of take... It became...

It became the Spider-Girl costume. Okay, yeah, yeah. Oh, no, that is cool. Yeah, yeah. Yep, alright. You know what I'm talking about. That's really cool, actually. I like that a lot. Yeah, yeah. Yep, all right. You know what I'm talking about. That's really cool, actually. I like that a lot.

Yeah, yeah. I think they've taken elements of that for the Amazing Spider-Man costume. No, I'd agree with that. Yeah. No, no, I'm cool with that. Yeah. But I think they could never really use that fully in the movies because people hate the Clone Saga so much.

Yes, exactly. So, you know. Yeah. It's a pipe dream. A beautiful pipe dream. All right. Do you want to do the next one? Yeah, okay.

Let me think. You've got Nick Fury here. Yeah. You love the Nick Fury costume. Well, it's dead on, isn't it? To the ultimate. You're talking about the David Hasselhoff Nick Fury costume. Obviously, I am.

Yes. Actually, you know what? Hasselhoff, as much as a goofy is, and shut up, Hasselhoff, everybody hates you. These Nick Fury's pretty dead on. Yes, I'm going to say they're both best costumes ever. Sure. On the flip side of that, though, I've also got... What have I got on the other side of that?

You've written Steel. Yeah, I have too, which we kind of talked about. Yeah, that's odd. I mean, we haven't seen Steel, but... These aren't matched up in any way. No, I was going to say, they're not at all, are they? I just went through and went, what's best, what's worst, and I just paired them up kind of randomly.

But yeah, that's a weird helmet. There's no S on the front of the... Right, exactly. Even though he didn't have that in the comics at one point. Yeah. It's just... It's the helmet mostly.

It doesn't look like Steel. I'm not talking about it doesn't look like Steel, the character. I'm talking about the suit doesn't look like it's made of metal. Right, exactly. That's what I'm saying.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It looks like plastic and shit. Yes. So I know that's a notoriously bad movie that we haven't seen. We'll get to it one day. Yeah, but that costume is terrible. But yeah, I mean, the Nick Fury costume is dead on. That is partly because the ultimate artist may or may not have ripped off Nick Fury's likeness.

Yeah, sure. Let's say it could be a coincidence. Let's entertain that lie. Yeah, let's really do that. Yeah. I mean, sure, there are hundreds of examples of him tracing,

like, celebrities and porn stars. Who's that guy? Greg Land. Yeah. Is his name, yeah. People hate that guy, don't they? I think he's recently moved away from that.

Okay. Like, his initial... Like, when he started, he didn't have that style. Yeah. And it was quite good. And then there was that era where allegedly... Why did I say allegedly?

Who cares? Where he traced all this stuff. Yeah, and there are... Hundreds of examples on blogs and whatever of him just tracing famous people or whatever. And there's a lot of, like, a lot of female superheroes. They look different from every panel, from panel to panel, because he clearly traced different porn stars for them. But all the women have that look of that wide-open mouth look of like,

oh my God, it's so big. That kind of look, you know? Yeah. It's creepy. Absolutely. Yeah. And I think he's since moved away from that style. Okay, good for him.

Yeah, exactly. What's that guy's name? Oh, yeah, Rob Liefeld. He does that people hate his art in particular don't they boy do they his weird

misproportioned bodies yep exactly if you look up Rob Liefeld Liefeld sorry Captain America yes the first example

is the weirdest proportioned picture you'll ever see if you want to I've got it oh I've seen it it's very visual he's got very large pecs

yeah yeah yeah and they've done a version where he's not wearing a costume and what he would look like under it yes and it's bizarre so yeah make of that what you will but i heard him say though people notorious at this guy and he's notoriously also an asshole so they say yes never met him don't know i'm sure he's perfectly nice or not i don't give a fuck the point is yes he said something like look in a few years, nobody's going to care. They're going to remember the greats like me. He compared himself to the Michael Jordan of comic book artists.

Yeah, because that's what you did in the 90s. You had to do that. People were full of verve, wearing their Stonewall Levi 501s. Sure. Delightful. Delightful. To his credit, though, he created a character in the 90s called Supreme. It was like kind of a thinly veiled Superman analog.

Gotcha. And he, you know, it sort of did well for a while in the 90s, and then it sort of dropped off as a lot of stuff did. And then he asked Alan Moore, creative watchman and beef event editor and all that sort of stuff, can you do a run on this? Can you write a run on this character? And Alan Moore said, yes, but I'm going to throw away everything you've ever done with it

and rebuild the character from scratch. Can I do that? And he's like, oh yeah, I guess so. And he did that, and it's actually an amazing run. I don't want to jump ahead to what you read and what you're going to read, but I'm going to recommend

our famous recurring segment about recommendations. But if anybody wants to track down the Alan Moore run on Supreme, it's amazing. It's like in the style of All-Star Superman, but many, many years before that. Okay.

And it's sort of a retrospective on the Superman mythos and what it means and the themes of Superman and stuff like that through another character. Right. And so it's a different character and it's got a different supporting cast and different villains and all that sort of stuff yeah but it's very much like it goes through various eras of the you know that sort of character what that archetype means to people and stuff like that it's really good that sounds great that down i will check it out it's probably on comixology maybe or on the internet actually i have a copy in the other room huh no

i don't the one remaining copy in the world already copy yeah. No, I don't. The one remaining copy in the world. The one remaining copy, yeah. Hmm. Do you think I'm going to be murdered for it? Probably, yeah. Okay, cool. Murdered for something, certainly. I want to talk about

a worst just quickly. Okay, go ahead. Hawkeye from the Avengers. That costume, I'm only saying it's the worst because that costume is nothing. It's super generic.

It's just a leather vest with the sleeves cut off and it's a little bit purple. That's true, yeah. That could be anything or anyone. How do you... And a regular,

like I could fit in that costume and be like, like it's not... It's not, yeah purple. That's true, yeah. That could be anything or anyone. And a regular... Like, I could fit in that costume and be like... Like, it's not... It's not. Yeah, you're right. It's not tailored to anybody. No, that's true, yeah. Like, you know? Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, you're right. How do you think they could have done it, though? Well, because he's a real guy and whatever. He's supposed to be a real sharpshooter. Yeah, yeah. He wouldn't really wear a big, stupid purple costume. That's true. So you can't really do it any otheroter. Yeah, yeah. He wouldn't really wear a big stupid purple costume. That's true. So you can't really do it

any other way. Yeah. You couldn't do it with the purple mask with the wings. No, you can't. The wings that it's kind of got. Yeah.

I think that's a rock in a hard place kind of scenario. It is, yeah. And you can't... I object because you can't put like a scope on his head.

I object to any character who's supposed to be like a sharpshooter or the most, you know, accurate, you know, sniper in the world or, and he's got a scope on his head. Because he wouldn't need a scope on his head. No. Because he's the most accurate sharpshooter in the world.

Good point. Yeah, yeah. Look, I think they should just kill our Hawkeye. Who cares? They kept saying, you know, we've got plans. We've got plans, Hawkeye. He features problems. No, just let's not play this game.

Yeah. Just get rid of him. Yeah. We don't need him. He just takes up his dead space. Huh. Yeah. Okay, but keep him in the comic books. Yeah, rid of him. Yeah. We don't need him. He just takes up his dead space. Huh. Yeah. Okay, but keep him in the comic books.

Yeah, yeah, fine. Whatever. I don't care. In fact, if I can jump to our favourite recurring segment, what do you read and what are you going to read? I actually recently read... It's called Hawkeye, My Life as a Weapon. Yeah.

It's like the new ongoing Hawkeye series. Yeah. Where he sort of... He becomes the landlord of like a tenement building in the, in New York and he sort of has adventures around there and it's really good. Okay, cool. Yeah. Now I'm, I'm like out with the character, but I think you don't need him in the Avengers.

He adds nothing. He's got all those trick arrows though. Don't care. They're super fun trick arrows. Yeah, but he doesn't, what they explode in the, in the movies, they explode or they don't explode. Those are what his arrows do. What about the one and it hits a guy and then it shoots all sorts of lasers out of it and

hits other guys. When did that happen? It happens. In the movie. Also grappling hooks? Yeah. They're good? Sure.

Yeah. Nah, he sucks. Alright. I think if you give him more time, he'll develop more as a character. And by develop more as a character, I mean you'll see more trick arrows. There'll be a gas arrow. There'll be a magnet arrow. There'll be a boxing glove arrow.

Speaking about arrows, speaking about good, best and worst costumes, what do you think about the arrow costumes? I like it. Yeah? I mean, I know it's leather and it's made for TV and whatnot, but I think it's pretty good. I think it looks really good. Yeah.

And again, I guess it works in green, but not in red. Because it's quite similar to the Flash. Yeah, it does. Yeah. You know what it is? I think it might be having your head exposed. Yeah. Like, having a covered head makes you look it is? I think it might be having your head exposed. Yeah. Like having a covered head makes you look inherently ridiculous, I think, in a lot of scenarios.

That's true. That's why they've gotten rid of Chris Evans' mask for the most part in Captain America 2, right? Well, you know, he wears it for a bit, but yeah. The Captain America 2 mask looks better than the one in the Avengers. Yeah, yeah. Which actually, we could talk about that now. Okay. Best Captain America from the first Avenger?

No, the one with the motorcycle helmet from the 90s or whatever it was. Sure. Actually, I wanted to keep talking about Arrow. Okay, sure. What do you think of the rest of the costumes? There haven't been that many costumes. I think the Huntress ones are alright. Huntress ones are alright.

Bronze Tiger's pretty good. Bronze Tiger's alright. That's just a guy in a leather jacket. Solomon Grund the Huntress ones are alright. Huntress ones are alright. Bronze Tiger's pretty good. Bronze Tiger's alright. That's just a guy in a leather jacket. Solomon Grundy's okay, I guess. I really liked the Deathstroke.

Yep, good point. A lot of people like that. Yeah, yeah. If not, it's just a hockey mask. Well, it is kind of a hockey but I mean, I like the evolution.

It's kind of classic Deathstroke, the yellow and classic Deathstroke. Classic Deathstroke, like the island version. Yeah. It looks really good, I think, and it's kind of more like, it's like a human Deathstroke the yellow and classic Deathstroke classic Deathstroke like the the island version yeah it looks really good

I think and it's kind of more like it's like a human moulded face kind of thing but in the modern era and I think we haven't

we haven't seen oh no we've seen it briefly yeah where he's he's back in the in the modern day yeah it's more a hockey mask

kind of situation but I think it looks really good yeah I agree yeah yeah yeah it's as good as you're gonna get it on TV I think also I think he's great as Deathstroke he's the best

that guy Manny something I can't remember his name he's the best that guy Manny something he's a New Zealand guy he was in he was in Spartacus he's really good love him great

the grey looks a little artificial in his temples but he's got a good swoosh he sure does he's got a good swoosh in that hair yeah so yeah but Captain America okay

Captain America from the first Avenger is great because it fits the era of when that movie is set. Yes. And it looks practical and functional.

It looks like you could take a bit of a beating in it. It would offer you some protection. The Avengers one, look, is weird and technicolor. He's got a puffy face in it. He's got a puffy face in it. And you know what? When he takes the mask off and it's like just the hood, it looks okay. But it's not a great suit.

It's really not. And I think maybe it was done like that on purpose. Because in the movie, they're like, even Chris Evans in it or Captain America's like, this is a little weird. It's a bit much. And they're like, you know, maybe we need this kind of thing right now, whatever. So yeah, I don't love it. Yeah, yeah.

But the World War II one looks really good. Even the novelty outfit that he wears initially. That was kind of fun. Remember, he's just like a USO marching band entertainer. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, sure. And even the one, the in-between one, where he wears the jacket over the USO one

and he's got the regular army helmet. He's got the shield. Not the round shield, the other shield. The shieldy-looking shield. The shieldy-looking shield, yeah. So yeah, there you go. You got one? Boy, let me think. Oh, you've got him men in black. Yes. And shieldy looking shield, yeah. So yeah, there you go. You going? Boy, let me think.

Oh, you've got here Men in Black. Yes. And the end of Men in Black. Yes. Which I, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because in Men in Black, they wear just your standard classic 1960s. You cannot go wrong with that suit. You cannot go wrong with the suit.

That suit looks good always. Black suit, black tie, white shirt. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hamilton Ventura watch. Oh. Which is, you might, it's the kind of the, it's a shield-shaped one. Yeah, yeah. They're really expensive too.

Oh, really? They're like $8,000. I looked into it briefly when they came out. I'm like, oh, I should get, it looks really good. I wonder if there's a movie tie in $8,000. In the 90s. Yeah. So, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. But at the end of Men in Black White in particular, they've got- They go to cool. He's like, I'm going to stay as part of the Men in Black, but I'm going to wear my cool outfits. I'm going to cool this up. It's so bad. Like a little grand, like a band collar. Yeah.

Like a 1990s, some 1990s formal wear. Weird sunglasses. Yeah. Terrible. So good. That dated immediately. I remember seeing that as a kid and went... I'm going to say every part of that best costume ever.

Sure. Bellissimo. I'm going to say, uh, Chris Reeve, Superman, even though it does look a bit dated, whatever,

that, that's a great suit. I mean, it's close enough. I disagree. Really? But again, you know,

I hate everything about this film. It's from the seventies. It's as good as you're going to get from the seventies, isn't it? The blue is, is too light. I know it's a weird sps it's as good as you're gonna get from the 70s isn't it the blue is too light and yeah i know it's a weird spandex yeah i still love it maybe i'm biased maybe you're biased though no i'm not an idiot no i'm the best i'm completely objective here yeah on the other side of that i've got an honorable mention even though i don't really care the nipples on the bat suit i guess is a bigstep. But I think the weird fake abs and pecs is worse than nipples on the Batsuit.

No, I think you're wrong. I think at that point when you're doing fake abs and fake chest, put nipples on it. Who cares? I guess so. It's bad. If it's fallen into self-parody at that point, why not? You're right. That's true.

Best costume ever. The Rocketeer. Yes. Good. What about it? Iteteer. Yes. Good. What about it? It's good. Yeah. They changed the jetpack design from the comic book to the movie.

I have no idea. Well, in the movie, it looks more like a food processor. It's just the one rocket. Yep, yep. I think they did better with it. The movie version looks a lot better. And the helmet's great as well. Helmet's great.

Jacket's great. Yeah. I told you about how I saw that show when I was a kid, and you didn't believe me. And you've right not to believe me because it doesn't exist on the internet. Yes. It was around the time The Rocketeer came out.

It was a show on Agro's Cartoon Connection, if you remember, it was a kid's show from the 90s. Yes, I remember. Where the guy who... It was a puppet and another woman, and they talked, but the puppet was... Quite bawdy. Yeah, and he looked like he'd molest you.

Yeah, absolutely. But they had a Rocketeer, but it was a still frame Rocketeer show. It was like a comic with voiceovers. And it'd be like, let's go Rocketeer. Like a motion comic. But with no motion. Right, okay. And you insisted that I'd made this up.

I think you have. But I cannot prove that I did not say it. Exactly. This is a shadow of. I think you have. But I cannot prove that I did not say it. Exactly. This is a shadow of a dream that you had. If anybody remembers this... Nobody does. It doesn't exist. It does.

Please write in. Tell me that I'm not crazy. You're crazy, though. Because I remember the time as well when I'm like, how is this a show? This is outrageous. Right. Because it wasn't animated in any way.

You were outraged back in the evening. That's right, exactly. And I bottled it up because I knew one day I'd have a podcast. Yes, exactly. So, yeah. Okay, here's another one that you've got here and I don't know if it's best costume ever

or worst costume ever. It says Dick Tracy. Yeah. Are you saying worst costume ever? I'm saying best. Okay, good. Because it's dead on. Yeah, it is.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Although costume design in that movie from memory is really good. Or makeup designs or whatever, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. I'm on whole costume design in that movie from memory is really good or makeup designs or whatever isn't it yeah I'm on the fence too

I don't remember no I recently saw it there was a costume exhibit a movie costume exhibit at Acme and the Dick Tracy costume was there

he's a very tall man oh one baby yeah and the world's biggest dickhead they say precisely so Vainey probably thought that song was about him.

Oh, yeah. I've revealed a secret there. You sure have. That's a Weekly Planet exclusive. That song's about him. I want to say the V for Vendetta costume. I love V for Vendetta. I know people are like,

it's not accurate, whatever. It's a great movie, regardless of what you think, Mason. Well, fully apart from that, that's fine. There's not really anything to that costume no that's why it's dead on that's why it's dead on

that's poor no I do not accept that no what do you mean it looks like him yeah but there's nothing to that he wears black

yep and he's got the mask and a hat and a wig and gloves and throwy knives I don't know I'm going to go with

worst costume ever because who cares why do you love that costume so much I don't know I just think it Worst costume ever Because who cares Why do you love That costume so much I don't know I just think it's good I've also got Wanted Because there's not

In the Wanted comic There's an actual costume Yep That he wears And he doesn't wear it In the movie And that movie Is not good

And I know people like it But it's not good And there's a weird Loom in it That predicts Who you should kill And it's not good And the comic is way better Even though it's not good. And there's a weird loom in it that predicts who you should kill. Uh-huh. And it's not good.

Hmm. And the comic is way better, even though it's extreme and whatever. Do you think that's the least accurate comic book to movie conversion ever? You know what? It's probably not, but it could very well be. Yeah. Yeah. Because no elements of that remain, right? No.

Just him being an assassin. That's it. And he can bend bullets. Yeah. In flight. Because he's a supervillain in flight because in the because he's he's a super villain in the yeah in the comic books he's a super he's one of many super villains with many and varied powers yeah and his power just happens to be that he can bend bullets yeah his mind that's it but in this they've taken they've removed every element of

that and just said okay everybody's power and this is just the ability to yeah bend bullets with their mind that's exactly right right, yeah. So, yeah. Do you think that would have worked on screen if they'd just taken everything and put it... I think they could never... When did that come out? 2005, isn't it? Yeah. No, it came out the same year as Dark Knight, so...

Seven? Seven. Eight, sorry. Do you think the world would have been ready for that? No, absolutely not. But I think that comic, there's a few things you could lose from that. In the comic, he admits to raping a really famous celebrity,

female celebrity. Yeah, take that out. There's weird stuff like that. Yeah. And I know, you know, comics is a whatever medium and you can do anything, but I don't know.

There's elements of that that don't sit well with me. Uh-huh. Maybe it's weird that I'm against raping people. Maybe it's weird that I have a stance on that. Yeah.

I think I feel like you're just trying to push it for the sake of pushing it yeah I think that is Mark Millar's I like Mark Millar I'm not sure everybody does but creator of Kick-Ass

and etc that is his biggest flaw in that he's like we can do anything you can't you know I'm pushing boundaries

what are you going to do about it I'm like well maybe don't push as many boundaries just because you can doesn't mean you should you're not making a point exactly so you know exactly there's the fact that I didn't even remember that element of wanted Don't push as many boundaries. Just because you can doesn't mean you should. You're not making a point. Exactly, yeah. So, you know.

Exactly. The fact that I didn't even remember that element of wanted, I think is a point. Well, it hasn't really made a point of anything. Exactly. So, why? I've also got here, Mason, the mask and Son of the Mask. Did you see Son of the Mask? No, but I've seen pictures of it.

I know everybody loves the mask. I don't think the mask is good. Yeah, that's right. The film? Nah. Huh. that's right. The film? Nah. Huh. It's crap. In what way?

It's not funny. Did you even like, didn't you like it at the time? Nope. Wow. I remember I saw it with my dad

and I remember after with my dad was just like, ah, that was the worst. And you were like, I agree, dad. I remember going, yeah, no,

it was good at the time but deep down I didn't like it and I don't like it now. And even though, but the costume is dead on and whatever. I just think Jim Carrey, for me, turned up to full volume, up to 11 or whatever you want to call it.

I did not enjoy it. That was after Ace Ventura? That was after the first Ace Ventura, yeah. Okay, yeah. And I actually like Ace Ventura. It's fine. Well, I remember liking it, but I don't like that movie. But The Mask 2 is weird also.

I think The Mask, and we're talking about design and costume, though. I don't like that movie. But The Mask 2 is weird also. I think The Mask... We're talking about design and costume, though. I don't know. I remember being entertained by the film. But you're right, it probably wasn't funny. Yeah. Yeah. I think they got that right.

I'm going to go with best costume ever there. I agree. Yeah, they got that zoot suit right. They sure did. Do you think it would have... Apart from the costume, would you have enjoyed that film better if it was more like the comic books insofar it was incredibly violent yes and people just got beheaded constantly and just got their limbs chopped off and stuff

like that absolutely yeah yeah yeah yeah definitely i think there's a reason that movie didn't get a sequel straight away because i think it wouldn't have done well even at the time i think a lot of people went to that because they're like it's like like a cartoon in real life, blah, blah, blah. And then you bring out a second one and then it's kind of like, oh, wait. Where do you go from here? Exactly. Did you ever read The Mask vs Lobo? No.

It was just them chopping each other up. Okay. For like 40 issues. All right. For like 40 pages. It was great. I've also got here the X-Men First Class costumes. We've got a lot of stuff here we can get.

We'll breeze through it. Yeah, sure. X-Men First Class costumes. Yep. Because they lot of stuff here we can get. We'll breeze through it. Yeah, sure. X-Men First Class costumes, because they're irreappropriate and they've got colour in them. And on the flip side of that, I've got nothing... Generation X costumes. From the TV show. From the TV show. The telly movie. I think it only ever got the one episode.

I'm going to show you Generation X TV costumes. What do you have on the flip side? On the flip side, I think X-Men 1 and 2 with the leather costumes, you can get away with it because they weren't really doing colourful costumes then, and it made sense to do it like that at the time. But when you hit X-Men 3, when you hit Wolverine Origins, and when you hit Days of Future Past, which is coming out, there's no excuse for not doing colourful costumes then.

You should know better. You should do colourful costumes. Yes. Yes. I think colourful costumes have come a long way. I think maybe you're right. I think we can do a colour... We. I say we.

I know what you mean. Because we're the head of Marvel. Yeah. I think they're doable now. Yeah. I think we've had enough experience with sort of matte black costumes. And they've figured out how to do color with texture so it doesn't look superman and ridiculous yeah superman one ridiculous again i'm putting my foot down

looks ridiculous you're right you got your generation x here for me i do so anyway if you remember generation x and you probably don't nope okay well i know what it is but yeah in the telemovie they're just in civvies for the whole thing sure and at the end they're like oh you've you've let's all be generation x and let's all be a team and fight evil and whatever now let's have a look at your new uniforms oh wow that costume look at that that is i think that probably killed any hope of an ongoing series yes just that that costume having to look at like eight people all wearing this weird red leather costume with yellow trim. I mean,

and also there's ones here that I've left off intentionally like the Justice League movie that went to television that was never became anything. Yeah, I mean,

that's kind of picking on you. It's a given. It's the same with the Captain America outfit and the Swamp Thing from that Swamp Thing movie from the 70s or 80s or whatever it was from. Yeah, yeah.

Things like that, they're given, you know. So, yeah. No, you're right. That's really bad, though. I've also got here Poison Ivy from Batman and Robin is pretty good. Yeah, okay. For Poison Ivy. I think it's comic accurate in a ridiculous movie.

That is... I don't like Uma Thurman in that role and whatever. I think she's supposed to be sexy, but it just comes off as really weird. You would have preferred Clooney in that role. You're goddamn right I would. But on the flip side of that, you've got Mr. Freeze, where that costume, I don't know what they were thinking with that Mr. Freeze costume.

Mr. Freeze would be hard to nail down, though, because Mr. Freeze has never really had a consistent look. He has a consistent look now. Yeah. Which is, I guess, largely due to the animated series. You're right. It's not good, though.

No, it's not. It's weird and silver. And at one point he wears a smoking jacket. Yes, he does. Yeah, yeah. If we're going to be talking about more Batman costumes, what about Bane? What about Dark Knight Rises' Bane? I hate it. I hate it.

Yeah, it's not cool, really, is it? No. I mean, Bane's hard to do. I've also got other Bane in here as well. The Bane from Batman and Robin is also terrible. But closer. Oh, yeah, that's right, yeah. But closer.

Uh-huh. But yeah, it's... Because I give it a pass because of the world that that is. Uh-huh. It's not great, though, no. No. Do you not like the weird sheepskin collar? No, I don't like that at all, no.

No. Do you like how he's sort of muscular, but he's sort of fat? Yeah, no, I don't like that. No, don't like it. No. Yeah. Don't like any of it. Fair enough.

I understand. I don't like that he doesn't have any venom. No. Well, they couldn't do it for Chris Nolan Batman, though, really, could they? Or they could. They could give him something, surely. I mean, if they got fear toxin, you could do... I mean, they just gave him a weakness.

Yeah. More than anything. A really obvious weakness that Batman should have exploited but didn't for some reason. Immediately exploited. He's clearly got a ventilator on. Pull the ventilator out. Hit that with a batarang. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. You're right. Yeah. Yeah. I've also got here Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, the original. Yes. Those costumes, animatronic costumes, are pretty good. Yes.

I think even now they look okay. Yeah. On the flip side of that, if you've seen any of the animatronic costumes from... They were done by even now they look okay. Yeah. On the flip side of that, if you've seen any of the animatronic costumes from... They were done by Jim Henson's company. Uh-huh. The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 3 costumes. I didn't say 3.

Didn't they go back in time to Japan? Yes. Okay. They are god-awful. Like, I think... I'm pretty sure it's a different... It's not Jim Henson doing it. Right.

But they're just weird. Why couldn't they have just used the Ninja Turtles 1 costumes in 3? That's a very good question. Did you look that up? Why would I, Mason? That's a really good point also. No, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know.

I'm sure it's one of those things where they had more than one and they get torn and whatever. Right, right. I don't know. Yeah. But 2 is okay. 2 looks okay. Yeah.

But 3 is not. They've got weird boggly eyes and the faces don't really match up to what they're okay. Two looks okay. Yeah. But three is not. They've got weird boggly eyes and the faces don't really match up to what they're saying. They nail the headbands. Oh, of course. I give them that. Yeah, definitely. No, terrible. Also got here Nightcrawler for good.

Yeah. Really? Okay. Yeah, absolutely. Too many tattoos. Yeah, probably. But good CGI tail. I like the body paint and whatever.

I think he looks really good. I guess you could say the same for Mystique, I guess. Yeah, okay, yeah. Sure. We agree? Let's shake on it. Still too many tattoos. Yeah, fair enough.

I think they've given him too much. I think there's too much to that character. Because he's got blue skin and he's got a tail and he's got the weird eyes and the blah, blah, blah. Why does he need all the religious tattoos? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. You got me. You got me.

It may have been that, because Mystique has sort of that scale effect. Yeah. If they, maybe they just went, okay, well, Nightcrawler's Mystique's son, allegedly, blah, blah, blah. Hmm. Let's just make him blue. And they just made him matte blue and it looked ridiculous, maybe? Yeah.

They're like, well, we have to do something. We can't make him scaly. We've got to give him. It's too obvious. And weird. Yeah. And creepy. But they wanted a bit of texture on it. Yeah. So they added tattoos. Okay. ridiculous maybe yeah they're like well we have to do something we can't make him scaly we gotta give him it's too obvious and weird yeah and creepy but they wanted a bit of texture on it yeah yeah

so they added tattoos okay fair enough I think maybe just um bit more sleeve probably could have solved that problem sure yeah yeah

no worries yeah I've also got here I don't know about this one Daredevil okay what do you think I can't decide whether it's really bad or really good

okay no it's not really good no I'll scratch that but there's only so far you can go with that costume you can't give him a cape

you can't give him any more colours nah he's blind after all yes so you can't expect him to colour coordinate

no are his eyes covered yeah best costume ever alright then yeah but at the same time and I think we have discussed this before, the bullseye costume

is the worst costume ever. Yes, it is. It really is. And the electro one's not good either. Yeah, yeah. They could have just with... Because I understand, obviously, the point is they're fighting in the dark a lot. You need different silhouettes.

Yes. You need a weird trench coat. You need a weird long capey trench coat. And yeah, et cetera, et cetera. I don't know. I think they could have just lined it up and added a little more color to his costume the bullseye's costume fair point like a colorful belt or something yeah yeah he's got like a white belt and white that's right yeah classic bullseye has those yeah yeah i agree i also got here constantine which isn't bad but i guess he's got the wrong trench coat so yeah it's not a thing no i don't

like it worst costume ever done new new Done. New model, much better. Still should have got Sting, though. Yeah, still should have got Sting. Richie Rich for best. No. He looks... He's dead on. He's got his little ascot.

No. Sometimes he wears a baseball cap. You're mocking us. You're mocking the listeners. And I'm not fully against this, but I feel like obliged to bring it up. The Green Lantern CGI costume. I don't think it's horrible, but it's not great. Right.

What do you think? No worst costume ever. It's a mistake to do an all CGI costume, isn't it? Yeah, it really is. Elements of CGI, sure. Uh-huh. Sure. Go for your life, Mason.

Yeah, yeah. I will. I guess we're just burning through these now. Everything in Hellboy is great. Every costume. Absolutely, yep. Without question. Animatronic stuff, the designs, everything.

Hellboy himself is a fucking marvel to look at. Yeah, yeah, yeah. stuff, the designs, everything. Hellboy himself is a fucking marvel to look at and how it works and everything. It's the best. Although not entirely accurate

because they switched his big hand. Oh yeah they did but that was just because... Ron Perlman's left handed.

Yeah. That's the only reason. Or is he right handed? He's whatever hand he's not in the comics.

So they switched him. Exactly, yeah. Well you know what they could have done though? They could have just reversed

every shot but then they'd have to film the whole thing like this. Yeah that's right. They'd have to print backwards newspapers. Exactly, yeah. Well, you know what they could have done, though? They could have just reversed every shot. But then they'd have to film the whole thing like this. Yeah, that's right, yeah. They'd have to print backwards newspapers. Yeah, absolutely, yeah. But yeah. I've also got the original Ghost Rider costume is not good because he's a really weird, way too CGI skull with zero texture. That's true, yes.

It looks bizarre. I think we've discovered here the key is texture. Yeah. That's what we like. Yeah, we love texture and we love texters. Yeah. That's what we like. Yeah. We love texture and we love texters. Yeah. So if you have texters, send them in.

We want them. Yeah, absolutely. So yeah. But on the flip side of that, which I haven't seen, the new Ghost Rider costume. Looks a lot better. Looks a lot better, yeah. It looks a lot better, but the jacket is a lot more generic, which that's just me. That's personal taste. Yeah.

The Ghost Rider 2 costume looks a lot better. Somebody clearly in the production house realized, well, they had a lot more money to spend. Maybe the same amount of money, but technology's moved on. Yes. They put a lot more color variation in the skull. Yeah. The fire looks a lot better.

And they realized that, hey, if this guy's burning, his clothes are probably burning as well. Yeah. And so his leather jacket bubbles yeah as he moves along and stuff like that that's cool

yeah that's really cool yeah also he pees fire which is not really a design choice but that was funny I was like

does that but he wouldn't have a penis he's got a bone penis I guess like Wolverine how Wolverine has bone claws inexplicably even though no creature

in the world has bone claws goes for Rider bone penis I've got to do Fantastic Four because I think they're okay I know they're not good movies

they're the worst costumes ever but for the time they're alright aren't they nope worst costumes ever why because they're just okay okay fair enough

you got me that's right and I've also got the Juggernaut costume from X-Men 3 yeah worst costume ever worst abs terrible

terrible really big rubber muscle suit yeah yeah why would they think that looks good I don't know And I've also got the juggernaut costume from X-Men 3. Yeah, worst costume ever. Worst abs. Terrible. Terrible, really. Big rubber muscle suit. Yeah, yeah. Why would they think that looks good? Yeah. Weird. Is Vinnie Jones a big guy? No, he's big, but he's not a big muscular guy.

Right. Yeah. I feel it would have looked better, more comic book juggernaut-y. Like just a weird impenetrable shell kind of thing. Yeah. Look, yeah. Sure. And it's a weird...

His head looks like the bowl part of a mortar and pestle. Yep. Whatever part that is. The mortar, I guess that part. Weird texture. Again. You know how I feel about texture. It's weird.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, you know. I've also got here Thor. Yep. Not so much in the first one. And the only reason is because he looks like he's wearing a wig in the first Thor. And I couldn't put my finger on it, but there's something that's off about Thor's face in the first Thor. And what it is, in the first Thor and only the first Thor, they've dyed Chris Evans' eyebrows blonde.

Oh, okay. And if you look at it and then look at the second one, he's got regular dark eyebrows. But it's bizarre. It's really changed his whole face. It's bizarre to look at. Yeah. And the only reason i remember reading on imdb they did that i'm like that's what's off about that yeah yeah yeah but other than that i like the thor costume a friend of mine uh has white eyebrows and he was in a tv show yeah uh like a like a year or so ago. And when he was on screen, I was quite, like, thrown. And it is because they dyed his eyebrows.

And it didn't work, and it looked weird. Yeah. And I think it's just because, you know, he came in the first day, and the hair and makeup department panicked. And they're like, he's got white eyebrows, it's going to look odd. We have to colour him in.

And then they did that, and then for the rest of the series, they had to... They had to keep that. Yeah, yeah. What show was that? It was called Problems with Sam Simmons.

Oh, yeah, I know Sam Simmons. American listeners might want to... He was on Conan recently, actually. Oh, was he? So check that out. Good for him. Yeah. Cool.

Also, on the flip side of that, Deadpool is horrible. Yes, definitely, yeah. There's nothing about that costume that works. Well, it's not even really a costume. No. He's just shirtless.

Yeah, and weird mouth... Great, those side... Side- a costume. No. He's just shirtless. Yeah. And weird mouth. Great. Those side. Side abbit things. I can't. You got me there. Yeah. You can't.

You can't fault that. I've also got here for worst, Nick Cage Superman that was never released. Right. Have you seen the pictures of that? I always wondered if that was real or if that was just. That's real. There's a guy, and I can't remember who he is. I reached out to him on Twitter.

He's a nice guy. He's doing a documentary on what happened to the Death of Superman movie. Oh, really? The Tim Burton Superman movie. Interesting. And he's got a whole lot of production skills and footage and interviews and all that. It's coming. I think there's a Kickstarter for it if you want to check it out, Mason.

I do. You do. Can I get a t-shirt? Yes. With Nick Cage's face on it? Absolutely, you can. Nick Cage Superman face and body. That got as far

as they built the costumes and everything and that was nearly ready to go and the costume there's one where it's kind of silvery

bluey metallic-y and there's another one where it's all lit up it's got like fairy lights across it oh I have seen that yes

it's so weird I think that totally works for me if only because it's so weird nah really interesting see I think because we've got the footage we only because it's so weird. Nah, it sucks. Really? Interesting. Nah.

See, I think, because we've got the footage, this is the real photo, right? Yeah, well, there's more than that, but that's one of them, yeah. Okay. I think that's the one he was going to start with in the movie. Right, because this is ridiculous because it's got the weird low neck. Well, for starters, it's got Nick Cage. Yes. He doesn't look like Superman on any level.

No. Like, he's appropriate for certain roles. Yes. Some might say he's handsome or whatever. I... Some, I said some. Okay. That can encompass any level. No. Like, he's appropriate for certain roles. Yes. Some might say he's handsome, or whatever. I... Some, I said some. Okay. That can encompass any number of people.

But he doesn't look like Superman. He's got the 90s Superman hair, which would work, sort of, if you look like a 90s Superman. If you don't look like a melted candle. Yeah, but it doesn't work here at all. He's got that weird scoop neck. Yeah. That does not... The Dean Cain scoop neck.

That does not play... Did he have a scoop neck? Dean Cain did, yeah. Okay's got that weird scoop neck. Yeah. That does not. The Dean Cain scoop neck. That does not play. Did he have a scoop neck? Dean Cain did, yeah. Okay, well, that is way too low. I kind of... Oh, here it is. There's the one. Yeah.

The weird glowy... It's shit. I'm kind of on board with it, if only because it's so weird. Okay. Like, and I actually... Because there are a number of production... Like, there's pre-production art and stuff like that for it. Yeah.

Like, here's the one for Steel I think that looks great yeah I agree because I kind of want to see it now yeah well look I'm looking forward

to this movie and then maybe one day I will the weirdness and there's like Brainiac there's a spider there's a giant spider

exactly in the third act yeah see that I think that looks really good yeah I agree but that's concept art and if you look at that it's not Nicolas Cage yeah exactly that looks like Superman but yeah, I agree. But that's concept art. And if you look at that, that's not Nicolas Cage.

Yeah, exactly. That looks like Superman. But yeah, there's like production stills of like... Pre-production sketches of like Brainiac's ship and stuff like that. That looked really good. Yeah, some of the design choices are okay. You know what? It's great in the movie inside my mind.

That's what it's good for. That's good enough for me. I'm kind of... Now that I think about it, I'm kind of glad it never got released. I've got three here. I flip-flopped. You flip-flopped. There's three here that I've put under the category of accurate, but who cares.

Uh-huh, cool. Sandman from Spider-Man 3. Very accurate, you're right, who cares. Punisher from all the Punishers except the Dolph Lundgren one. Though, to be fair, Punisher Warzone one's probably pretty good. Ray Stevenson is dead on in that role I think more Thomas Jane accurate who cares I guess because he just has the yeah and he doesn't really look like the Punisher also I've got Black Widow accurate who cares

yeah yeah yeah I'm sure there's others that go and that fit into that list that we talked about yeah but look I'm sure we've missed some though, Mason. Interestingly, and I was going to mention this with Hawkeye. Yeah. Hawkeye is a twist for comic book characters generally because he is wearing the girl costume. Okay. Which is that he is showing the most skin. Like this has been pointed out before, but he's showing the most skin. He's got the low neckline kind of thing.

You know? And he's often shielded by the bigger guns kind of thing he's got a lovely he's got lovely toned thin arms yeah exactly yeah

which is interesting sure is on that level but there you go I'm sure though we have missed some of Miss Tapes if people want to

twitter us at weeklyplanetpod or mrsundaymovies or at wikipediaground please do let us know what's your or even what's your

favourite and least favourite costume of all time. I'm looking forward to these because I want to, because the memories will be... The memories will last a lifetime. I'm going to have lots of arguments on Twitter about texture. Yeah.

It's going to be great. All right, Mason. Now it's time for What's We Reading? What's We Gonna Read? Well, as you... I'm doing the thing. I'm doing the thing.

What are we reading today? That was pretty good. That was off the cuff. Can you believe that? I can believe it was off the cuff, certainly. Well, I've covered what you read and what you're going to read. So you go nuts. The fan.

Fan. I'm not going to use the word fan. Fans of the show. Listeners of the show. You sound like dickheads. Yeah. You say fans of the show. Yeah. People who are kind enough to listen to us. Yeah. People we've tricked. Listeners of the show. They sound like dickheads. Fans of the show. People who are kind

enough to listen to us. People we've tricked into listening to. Yes. Somehow. Baked Boons, who we love on Twitter. Do we love him? Yes. You're always against Baked Boons. I can't remember. I flip. I can't remember what my persona says about

people on Twitter. He's watching the Monster anime from a few years back and he says it's really good and I'll get into it. Okay. I'm not familiar with it. I looked it up. Is it an anime based on the Charlize Theron film? Yeah, absolutely right.

It is. Sounds really good. It's the same but there's more karate. Yes, that's right. And also included in that, Mason, I'm going to say that Earth Eagle GT, who I did an interview with earlier this week, that I mentioned,

he's going to have that on his YouTube channel, Earth Eagle GT. Don't go there just for that, though. It's just mostly me rambling. But he's an interesting guy, but he's got good videos. So go check out EarthEagleGT on YouTube. I will. One word?

Mm-hmm. It's good. But what I've been reading, Mason, and this was also recommended to me by Josh Zingerman, but I've been reading this. I'm completely up to date. Uh-huh. I wish my name was Josh Zingerman. I know, right? How good is that? Unless I got that wrong, and it's not Josh Zingerman. You've've been reading this. I'm completely up to date. I wish my name was Josh Zingerman. I know, right?

How good is that? Unless I got that wrong. And it's not Josh Zingerman. You've almost certainly got it wrong. Yeah, sure. He recommends Five Ghosts, which is a story. The Ghost of Christmas Past. The Ghost of Christmas Present.

The Ghost of Christmas Future. Casper. Ghost of Harold Ramis. Yeah. Oh, we miss him. There we go. We got that. Basically, it's this 1930s, 1920s style adventure.

There's a guy in it called Fabian Gray. He's like a treasure hunter guy. And he's possessed by five ghosts. And each of them imbue him with different powers and abilities. One's the ghost of Sherlock. Well, I'm not going to spoil it, but it's basically one's the ghost of Sherlock. One's the ghost of Merlin. One's Robin Hood.

One's some... Robin Williams. One's Robin Williams.'s some Robin Williams one's Robin Williams oh ho Robin Williams ha ha ha ha one's some samurai and I can't remember

the name of and one's Dracula and it's awesome so that's also I think the person who recommended that to me originally was Milan Jeffdick

1992 on YouTube who's also great but yeah check out Five Ghosts it's really good and it's a stand alone thing it's not connected to anything.

It's really cool. There's a series, and I didn't quite get into it, but it was a few years ago called Cowboy Ninja Viking. Okay. Which was about a team of like... a special operative

who had a multiple personality disorder where he had the personality of a cowboy ninja and a viking. Okay. And they each gave him special skills. Oh, cool. And he was sort of part of a team of other people who had...

Set abilities? I mean, sure, it's about people with mental disorders, but apparently he's handled quite well. Cool, all right. I mean, surely better than the 90s crazy man, which is about a guy who was crazy and the government sent him in to kill people by being crazy, I guess.

I guess that works. Yeah. Sure. He doesn't look like a crazy man. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Fantastic. So that ends what we read and what we're going to read for this week.

That was pretty good, yeah. It sure was. Let's get to shout outs for the week. Okay, please. Where most people tune out unless they're getting a shout out. Wow. This is my favorite part. Goodbye to those listeners who are leaving.

Please, though, hit us up at weeklypanetpod. Gmail, Twitter. Shout outs. Shout outs. Shout outs. Shout outs. Email, hit us up at weeklypanetpod. Gmail, Twitter. Shout outs. Shout outs. Shout outs. Email, Twitter, Facebook,

weeklypanetpod. Shout outs. Alright, here we go. This is from Mitch's Movies from Perth. Now,

he shut down his comic review weekly YouTube channel, YouTube thing. Because we crushed him? Because we crushed him. Yeah. Due to lack of motivation

after getting 420 subs which is nothing to sneeze at that's a lot of subs getting subs is difficult subscriptions subscriptions okay cool yeah he's not submarines

no well that's you know that's probably they're about the same level of difficulty he's waiting for the right time to re-upload his videos but he wants to know Mason

and I'm going to direct this to you how have I me specifically kept making videos and is it getting me, is it because of all the ladies I get? Is that the actual question? Yeah. Well, you've got a lady. I don't want to spoil that. Sure. You're taken.

I am. Forever. That's right. Trapped. Yeah, you're trapped forever. That's it. So you don't have that motivation. No. So I guess it's, so you don't have to talk to her pretty much that's the main thing yeah yeah yeah yeah i think the thing about youtube channels is and it's because nobody's making you do it it's self-motivated yeah but it gets the point where for me if i don't make a video now every sunday and every thursday which is my rough

schedule i feel weird uh-. You know what I mean? Like, if I let it slide for whatever reason, even if I'm away or I'm really sick or whatever, I feel really weird if I don't make one because it's so in my schedule. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, you just kind of push through. And also... But is it a fun, creative outlet? Absolutely it is.

Yeah. And I think maybe that's... If you lose the motivation, I think it maybe would be find something else that you... Either find some angle on it that you find is creatively fulfilling. And do that. Or if you're like, well, I used to do comic book movie stuff and that's not interesting to me anymore. Yeah. What about fly fishing?

Maybe I could do a series of videos on fly fishing. That's exactly right. So, yeah. There you go. So, get out there. Also, a hint for people who are doing YouTube video. I'm not a massive YouTube channel. I've got, I think, nearly 8,500 or something.

I can't remember. Yeah. Which is good. Don't get me wrong. I'm really happy. It's great. But you've got to get in first on a lot of things or you've got to do something different. Right.

If you're the 1,000th person to put up your 300 Rides of an Empire review two weeks after the movie is going to come out. Right. Nobody's going to watch that or care. Right, right. You've got to get in first, whatever it is, or you've got to do something interesting. Yeah. So have an interesting, have a different spin on it.

Like you promised to dress as the characters. That's right. In your reviews from now on. That's exactly it. Yeah. So yeah, it's, if I miss a review date or it comes out early in the US, it sounds bad, but I just won't review it because I'm like, what's the point? Yeah.

We can always talk about it here. Yeah. That's it. Exactly. We can always talk about it here. So get in early. Get in as soon as you can for everything and or have an interesting take on it. Find something that nobody's doing or find something that somebody is doing and then

try to do it better. Kill them. Kill them. And then take their identity. Five ghost style. Yeah. Yeah. So that would be my advice. But yeah. But you know, do it or don't do it. Five ghost style. Yeah. So that would be my advice.

But yeah. But you know, do it or don't do it. Whatever. Find something that you find interesting. Or don't. Yeah. Good on you, Mitch. Shout out.

I'm going to say shout out at the end of each one. Okay. Just in case people were not clear. Because sometimes I'm like, did I shout them out correctly? I'm just going to yell shout out. Okay, cool. And if I'm talking for too long, just yell shout out. Or if the email is getting boring, just yell shout out. Okay, cool. And if I'm talking for too long, just yell shout out. Or if the email's getting boring,

just yell shout out. Okay. We've shouted this out enough. Courtney Davies tweeted us this week, Mason. She was tearing up the 300 posters at her work, the 300 standees at the cinema, and one of them she drew a picture of. She drew a moustache.

I love a delightful bit of Wimpsley vandalism, you know I do. That's right. So we really appreciate that. And she hashtagged Mackenzie moustache. Oh, yeah. So we really appreciate that. Actually hashtag Mackenzie Mustache. Oh yeah. Yeah we should probably get back

to harassing him. Yeah guys if we could all harass Benjamin Mackenzie again on Twitter. In a nice way. Hashtag Mackenzie Mustache.

Maybe throw in a compliment. Throw in a compliment. Yep. Yeah absolutely. Ask why he's been so quiet of late. Yeah ask him if

he's doing alright. Yeah. You know. You getting enough sleep? Yeah. Benjamin Mackenzie? Hit him up.

Just never stop. Yeah. Never stop. And also, the important thing is, when he, sorry, whenever he says something on Twitter, hit him back straight away. If you happen to be there

when he tweets something within minutes, hit him back straight away with a reply because you know he's there. You know he's there. You know he's there. Yeah. Yeah. Unless he takes the stance of he tweets

and then he just throws his cell phone into the ocean, which I know a lot of celebrities do, like straight away. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, exactly. Which I'm pretty sure is also what my dad does. Because, you know, he'll call and I'll be like, and I'll miss the call, and I'll be like, I'll call him back straight away and it goes to voicemail.

What did you do with your phone, Dad? Come on, man. He doesn't even live near the ocean. Yeah. Outrageous. Anyway, shout out Matt Taylor He emailed

And I missed his first email Because I think he sent it To my YouTube email And you threw your laptop Into the ocean I had to yeah I never check my YouTube email Very rarely

So maybe don't send anything To me there Or do I don't care But he I said Can you recommend a charity To donate to Because he likes listening to the show

He's going to donate 20 bucks To a charity of our choosing what get on him I know right and continue and he said whenever he can he's going to

chuck in a few bucks or you know a charity's way yeah yeah he's also he's got a girlfriend he's saving for a mortgage at the moment

so you know it's what a nice thing to do absolutely we're not saying everybody should do that but everybody should do this definitely yeah

no no I understand like people you know you press for money or whatever but don't feel obliged to give anything

to anybody at any point I want to be clear about that but I really appreciate that put your money put it in a big bin

and swim around in it but I said to Matt Taylor I knew a guy called Matt Taylor from my school and I fucking hated him

what a surprise this is a different guy yeah real dickhead this guy's not real dickhead. This guy's not a dickhead. But I recommended, I did some work in Africa. Not a big deal, Mason.

Don't worry about it. I'm not a hero. I didn't say you were a hero. Okay. No, you did. I didn't imply it. You reached for that medal to hand me. I did do that, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But for this place called Food Water Shelter, which is basically the African village that they kind of community that they started up where mothers who may or may not have husbands, which is difficult in a place like Tanzania where it was, would then bring their kids to live in this kind of eco-friendly village and also adopt other kids. So it was a kind of a mixture of a kind of orphanage and an eco farm and a school and a whole bunch of other stuff. And it's all kind of it's an Australian based company and the people who run it are really great it's called Food Water Shelter if anyone wants to donate to it

go for it or don't as I said but thank you if you do that's great but I know for a fact that I know where the money goes for that

and I know they appreciate every cent because you know some charities you know no Mason that's right but this one goes in the administration

so yeah again thank you very much for that absolutely thank you I'm for that yeah absolutely thank you I'm glad you're not that guy from my school that I hate

or is he maybe he's turned over in your life you may have shout out Jack Donnelly wants to shout out for his girlfriend to his girlfriend

for putting up with him talking about comic book stuff which is I can understand is rough to hear about it's like if somebody talks to us about cars it's rough to listen to.

You tolerate it for a while. You smile politely. And you go, boy, that does sound... You've got a good one. Cars-wise, probably. Or you're getting one? I wasn't listening. Doesn't matter.

Though apparently he says, She likes Arrow. She loved Man of Steel in the Dark Knight trilogy. She's been converted, he says. So big shout out to Jack Donnelly's girlfriend. I don't know her name. Let's just assume her name is Jackie. Jackie Donnelly.

Jackie Donnelly. Mr. and Mrs. Jackie Donnelly. So yeah. Thanks, guys. Shout out! This is an interesting one. This is from comic writer J.S. Earls, who is a comic writer. He's written things such as Pistol Fist, Pistol Fit, Pistol Fist, which is a comic about,

I think it's set during the American Revolutionary War, which I'm going to get a copy of on Comixology. And he's also wrote a comic on the life of George R.R. Martin from Game of Thrones. So yeah, he says, just want to say love the podcast. You make me laugh every week. That's nice. Thank you. That's pretty good. Can you please give a shout out to my long time friend, Pete Patopoulos?

No. Give me the thing. I'm sick of this. Bottom one. Pete Papoutsis. Okay. I'm assuming. Sure.

That's not better than what I said. Yes, it is. To his friend, Pete, a comic book lawyer friend who aspires to have his, to have radioactive A comic book lawyer? Yeah. That's right. I never thought there was such a thing. Believe it.

Pete aspires to have radioactive fluid spilled in his eyes, go blind, then dress up like Casper's devilish pal, hot stuff, and fight crime. Casper's got like a demon... Yeah, devil friend, sure. I don't think we say demon. I think devil is the family friendly way. Little devil, you don't say little demon.

Little hellspawn. Little hellspawn. Little hellspawn. There's something that's comic accurate. Casper. So yeah, thanks for that, JS Earls. Absolutely. Really appreciate it. Pretty cool.

Shout out! All right, Mason. This is a cool one. This is from Nora, who says she's our only Arab fan. She loves the podcast. She's from Saudi Arabia. And she also says that's how we better remember

to give her a shout out. Which we have. Wait, we haven't because... It's not finished yet. Oh, okay. Her favourite movies are Pride and Prejudice from 2005. She's an English major,

she says. There you go. Apparently the BBC series is better than the Pride and Prejudice movie, so they say. I'm not surprised. Well, there you go.

She also loves Fight Club and The Avengers. Favourite show is Lost, which I disagree with. Yeah, but you've got no right to debate that on any level. You're probably right. Because you struggled through it. Yeah. Doctor Who, which I love, and Battlestar Galactica.

She said you need to watch it if you haven't. I've seen a lot of Battlestar Galactica, or some of them. You just watched the one from the 70s. That's right, exactly. But I fell off and I heard the ending's weird, so I kind of... But I think I'll go back to it, because I do enjoy it. My favourite comics are X-Men and Fables. Fables is great.

Yeah, and I haven't read it. And she's currently reading Invincible, as per my suggestion. There we go. Sweet. She also says that the Terminator vs. Robocop comic, which you talked about, was her favourite moment. So there you go. It's one of the best.

So yeah. Yeah. So there's only one thing left to say, Mason. Shout out! which you talked about was her favourite moment so there you go it's one of the best so yeah so there's only one thing left to say Mason shout out red double shout out there it is alright this is from

M Palumbella I thought you were going to say Night Shyamalan yes I was ready to have a go thanks for the shout out last couple of weeks back because we shouted him out

I just wanted to ask you guys whether you thought what you thought of a CGI Batman or Superman film and whether it would work theatrically what do you think i don't think it would work me too however well actually did you say recently there was a there was a batman terminator short did you see that i did yeah who sent us that ah i should have shouted them out i know right exactly yeah should have shout out another shout out they did on twitter great. That would be computer-aided

in some manner, I think. Yeah, sure. I think... See, when I think CGI animation, I think, you know, incredible crash dummies from the 90s or whatever.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. But I think, you know, animated sort of in the style of that, you know, some sort of computer-aided cell shading kind of look

that would work. Sure, absolutely. I don't think it would... Maybe not as theatrical or less, but... Not as theatrical or less look at, that would work. Sure, absolutely. Maybe not as theatrical or less, but yeah. Not as theatrical or less. No, I'm agreeing with you on that. He said, thanks for making his Monday mornings awesome. Fun side note, the new Batman suit in Arkham Knight is identical to the one in the Batman Live show

or Batman on Ice. Isn't that interesting? Wait, what? Say that whole thing again. The new Batsuit in Arkham Knight, the Batman video game. Yes, the new one, the upcoming. Is identical to the one in the Batman Live show. Yes, the new one, the upcoming. Is identical to the one in the Batman

live show. That cannot be right, but I hope it is. That is from Max. Thanks, Max. Shout out, Max. Shout out indeed. Oh, this guy's a

prick. This is from David Langkite. He says, hey, can I get a shout out so I can hear Mr. Sunday completely mispronounce my last name? Yeah.

There we go. You got me. Can I see how close you got? I think it's pretty good. I think I did all right. Right? Right? I think you probably...

Could you mangle it a bit better? David Lankhite. There we go. David Lankhite. Old Lankhiles. Well... Old Lankhile. That's it.

Thanks, David. You're a good guy. That's it. Thanks, David. You're a good guy. I like you. You got me. Shout out! This is Ryan. Also, I hold a lot. I've got a replica Thor's hammer.

I've got a replica Mjolnir. And every time I say shout out, I raise it aloft and it gets struck by lightning. Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. In case anyone's wondering. Ryan Miller. Yes. Emailed in.

He said, a number of things, including some ideas for some episodes, which I always note, if somebody's first in on an episode, I write down their name and what their idea is. Yeah, we go. Unless it's terrible, then I discard it. No, that's not true. I've never had a terrible one. But Ryan Miller's is pretty bad. Not true.

Noted it. And he wants to know whether Hugh Jackman would be a good choice for Joel in the Last of Us movie. Oh, okay, yeah. Coming off the back of prisoners and whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. I didn't even think of that.

Yeah, I know I said Josh Brolin last week, but I think that's a really good idea. Brolin's too... I reckon, if anything, Brolin is too much, man. Yeah. No, he's not really, but I don't know. People said that about me. No, no one's ever said that.

Josh Brolin said... They said you eat too much ham. Oh. Yeah. I don't. No one's ever said that. Josh Brolin said it about me. They said you eat too much ham. Oh. Yeah. I don't know. I've been thinking the wrong thing all these years. You have, haven't you?

Yeah. I don't know. Brolin's maybe a little too Hollywood-y. He looks a little too Hollywood-y. Yeah, yeah. Maybe that's just me. I reckon Jackman seems more down to earth. Yeah, yeah. Maybe just because he's our Hugh Jackman.

I love him. Yeah, he's the best. Another thing. Do you think they should cast Troy Baker as the Joker if they do a live version of the Joker again because he did

it was the Joker in Arkham Origins only if he's on ice sure does he look like the Joker yeah he could you know he could sure he's definitely a great voice actor

that I do not deny I don't know if that would that carry over to live though possibly not I mean he also Troy Baker though I think he did Joel as well from The Last of Us. There you go.

Speaking of The Last of Us, it's going to be a direct adaptation of the game. It's going to be like beat for beat. I said it's not going to be like 18 hours long, I assume. That would work as a series. Yes. Like Revolution, except Revolution is shit. Yeah. In your face, Revolution.

Take that, Revolution. Yeah. I gave that a go, though. Reverse shout-out to Revolution. Yeah. I gave that a go though. Reverse shout out to revolution. Lastly, suck in. Lastly, could you guys give me a shout out

in your American accent? This is good. Because no one has asked that yet. That's rough. New York style. You got to do it New York style. Forget about it. Get me one of them yellow cabs.

There's a gorilla climbing the Empire State Building. That was really good. I'm very proud of you Could you actually do an American accent? No Me neither You don't want to do it?

No You know what, I can do it if I hear it And then I can sort of replicate it But I can't just do it off the cuff I guess the New York one will have to do It's a very solid New York accent It sure is You should be happy about it

The Yankees are my favourite baseball team Squad, they say squad. Squad team. Yeah. Shout out. Shout out. Forget about it. All right.

Oh, this is one of my favourites from the week. This is from, remember Justin from last week? Yes. Justin Hayden having a baby? Yes. His wife, Stephanie, and Justin emailed in. This one's specifically from Stephanie, though. Hi, Stephanie.

Yeah, it's really nice. They're close to having a baby. Exciting times. Dear Nick and James Hey guys While you made some valid points I'm not promising anything This is trying to convince Justin to be let out

To watch the Captain America movie Uh huh sure The movie's being Born at the same time As this kid Anyway However I did think That the last Captain America movie

Was pretty good At least better than Some of the other movies That Justin has dragged me to Uh huh sure I think it will have to be one of those situations where we'll see what's

happening at the time for all we know we could be in a hospital having a baby then and for that reason I cannot give a for sure yes I think that's completely unreasonable

yeah of course absolutely Stephanie you make a valid point obviously Justin should not abandon you if this is not the appropriate time to do so

it's not the 50s where you can throw your wife in a hospital and go get a scotch. That's right. At the hospital. Yes, that's right. From the doctor. Yeah.

My husband is a huge comic book nerd, and I'm going to accept this. I'm pretty sure he was more excited about the countdown to the Superman movie than the countdown to our wedding. He currently has a countdown. Oh, snap. I know, right? He currently has a countdown. I like this one.

She's sassy. Yeah, she's good. He currently has a countdown on his phone for the baby's due date and the Batman Superman movie. Great. That's cool. As far as baby names go, it's funny that you mentioned Galvatron because while I was listening to your podcast, I was wearing one of Justin's Transformers t-shirts. Aren't I reading this one really well?

Normally, I can't read for shit. This one I'm nailing. Have you noticed that? Yeah. Now I'm going to fuck it up. My daily wardrobe around your house there we go my daily wardrobe around the house pretty much consists of his t-shirts which are like things like transformers teenage mutant ninja turtles superman batman captain america justice league etc justin has always been very into comic books

and superheroes and whether he realized what and whether he realizes it or not he is my superhero and i know he will be the baby superhero. I know, right? I'm very proud of him. He's gone to Iraq. He's a Marine. And now this Friday he's graduating from the Police Academy. Wow.

How awesome is that? This guy's a genuine, bona fide, give back to society hero. What do you think his Police Academy skill is? I think it's sound effects. I hope it's sound effects. Yeah. I hope he's a sassy black woman. Yeah, me too.

That's his skill. He's real quiet for a while And then they don't pay attention to him And then boom Yelling Yeah exactly He said what he does That's as close as it gets

To a real life superhero Can't argue with that That's pretty close He's doing a great public service Yeah It makes me feel bad Because people do so many good things You know what I mean

Absolutely What an awesome guy For all the reasons above As long as we're not in hospital Or I'm not in labour I think I'll allow him to go Smiley face He deserves it keep up the great show Justin loves it I love the accents I presume she means my New York accent yeah absolutely g'day mates from Stephanie Hayden and there's a picture of the uh Transformers t-shirt she's wearing isn't that awesome yeah yeah I realized

I um I was gonna I said I was gonna come up with a list of baby names. Yep. I haven't done that yet. But let me think. Giant size man thing. There's one. That's a great one. There's one for you. There's one for us. Yeah, yeah. That works for a boy or a girl.

It does, doesn't it? Yeah. So I guess we can safely say, best of luck. Please keep us in the loop of what's going on. Yep. I'll give you a top 10 next week. Yep, absolutely. Put your money on that.

I will put zero money on that. Great. Good idea. All right. Thanks, guys. Really appreciate it. What your money on that. I will put zero money on that. Great. Good idea. All right. Thanks, guys. Really appreciate it. What a pack of legends. Shout out.

Oh, shout out. Okay, this is Steve. He's got a show idea and he's calling us out on last week. Uh-oh. Then this is fair enough. Something you did. Steve O'Leary, Canadian representative here. Just wanted to say thanks for the shout out.

It's been the highlight of my year, even though you accidentally lumped me with the something random ink guys. So I accidentally, remember I read it out to us? I remember. I accidentally pasted over his email. So I'm going to redo his shout out. It's been the highlight of my year, even though you accidentally lumped me with the Something Random Ink guys. So I accidentally... Remember I read it out to us? I remember. I accidentally pasted over his email. So I'm going to redo his shout out. My original thought,

it'd be a cool idea if you guys turned comic book trivia into a drinking game somehow, whether it be a whole show or just a segment or whatever, or even an audio commentary on a movie. It would be awesome. We can do that. We could definitely do that. Yeah. I might even do one of these episodes drunk one day.

You've come pretty close. A lot of been slight like you've been previous night drunk yes and you're still slightly and beat at the pub in the afternoon most of these you're hung over yes that's true full disclosure i'm a little bit hung over today yeah i know also in early episodes you mentioned that the guy who played green arrow in smallville was terrible and also i don't remember even saying that, but sure. There was a pilot episode for Aquaman. Well, it turns out the guy who played the Green Arrow in Smallville is Aquaman in the pilot. Huh.

Yeah. There you go. Yeah. I didn't know that. Also, at the bottom, he says, oh, and again, shout out! And he actually has got that in caps. I think he's covered it. I'm getting shout outs!

All right. This one's from Ewan Davis. Have you read this Spider-Man arc called Spider Island? If so or not, what are your thoughts on that? I haven't. That's part of the Superior Spider-Man arc, I believe. Sure. It is, yeah.

Oh, no. I'm working my way through it. I may have read it then. Well. I like the Superior Spider-Man arc. I'm not up to date on it, though. It's nearly over. Yeah, it is. You should get in there. I'll get in it. Don not up to date on it though. It's nearly over. Yeah, it is.

You should get in there. I'll get in it. Don't worry. Yeah, yeah. He said it's possibly one of his favourite comic book arcs ever and it deserves

our attention. P.S. He says we can maybe talk about that at one point and also we should probably do our favourite Spider-Man

arcs at some point. You probably know. You'd probably be better at that than me. You probably would have heard. I know Clone Saga is probably your

favourite. Is that right? Absolutely. I love it. Shout out? Shout out! Yeah, again, it's... the whole

Superior Spider-Man idea wouldn't have worked a few years ago. Yeah. If you'd said, look, Spider-Man, you know, mind is going to be sent off into the Netherrealm, and he's going to be taken over by the mind of dr octopus people be like well that's not going to work no exactly you're absolutely right why it has to

return to the status quo at the end of every issue is that you're right mason you've done it again thank you we're nearly at two hours this is a long one what but we've got dan hasem writing in he recommends the lego marvel game best game ever he says uh-huh i am going to play that as soon as i get a ps4 he um because i know i got a copy of it on, he says. I am going to play that as soon as I get a PS4. Because I got a copy of it on PS4. I'm not going to go into it. Even though I'd have done previous episodes in depth. So if you want to know about that, just flick back.

He recommends going to see Captain America 2 in IMAX in Melbourne. He goes all the time, especially the comic book movies. And he's really impressed by the Hobbit in 48 frames per second there. I haven't gone to a lot of IMAX stuff. I usually go to like a VMAX screen, like a giant. I was, I'm,

that's a World War Z in IMAX, but before that I was a little bit phobic of IMAX. Yeah. If only because I thought, well,

what if I just, what if I pay my money and I go in there and I just start vomiting continuously? Like the screen is so big that I'm just, I can't,

I can't stop. Like I get some sort of weird giant screen vertigo and I just just fill up that cinema you know. Be a waste of money. Yeah.

I'd look like quite the fool. What did you think though? It was good. Yeah. Okay cool. Yeah thanks buddy. Shout out. Shout out.

This is from Jose Peralta. Hey Mr. Sunday and Nick Mason. From Twitter. I'm familiar with that gentleman. Yeah, he's good, isn't he? Yeah, yeah. Is he? Yeah.

Would you marry him? I'll let you know next week. Okay, cool. Well, look, you might not have the opportunity, depending how this particular email goes. Okay. This is a good one as well. Get ready for it. I'm ready.

I would love if you guys could wish me luck in unison on asking a girl to my school prom. Oh. Yeah. This is relevant to me because of the way I'm asking her out. It's Superman themed. Well, this could go south. That's all I've got. Yeah. This is relevant to me because of the way I'm asking her out. It's Superman themed. Well, this could go south. That's all I'm getting at. Wait, the whole prom is Superman themed?

I think it's just the shout out. So this is going to be it. There's going to be a sign, me dressed in a Superman costume, and even a person who comes out and yells, it's a bird, it's a plane. No, it's Jose asking you to the prom. I love the show. Show it to my friends.

You guys are the real heroes of the world. That's not true. Also, very not true. Very not true. It's probably the police officers and firemen and volunteer workers. People who do real work. Yeah, those guys, yeah. So, first of all, the good luck in unison.

You ready? Yep. One, two, three. Have a really good time. Are we supposed to say safe things? Yeah, that's fine. That's fine. That's fine. It gets the gist. Yeah, no, definitely good luck. I we supposed to say save things? Yeah, that's fine. That's fine.

It gets the gist. Yeah, no, definitely good luck. I hope that goes well. Yeah. I'm assuming this girl is into comics. I would hope so. Yeah. I'll tell you what, though.

That's ballsy. I would never do that. No. Yeah. I'm not saying don't do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not trying to put him off. Ah.

But yeah. I'm going to tell you the trick to picking up... You dressed as Swamp Thing once. I did. That's right. No, I just fell in a swamp. That's what I told you. Yeah.

I'm going to tell you the trick to picking up women, Mason, because I'm an expert. This is for all our listeners. So everybody, huddle close. It's the trick is It's confidence without arrogance and dressing well. That's it. Do you agree? I agree with that, yeah. It doesn't work every time.

No. People get rejected all the time. Yeah. Nothing wrong with that. But at the same time, it's pretty shattering. Yeah. Really?

Yeah. But yeah, you're not going to, there's no formula for success, but I think confidence without arrogance, ask a lot of questions as well, dress well.

Yeah. In particular shoes. That's true. I don't do any of those things I just said though. It doesn't matter anymore. You're right. You're right. You're right.

All your shoes are like comical hobo shoes now. They've got that split on the front and the front ends kind of poke at the toes, point up, you know? That's exactly it. You wear a top hat and the top is open like a can of beans. It's just popped open. There's a bird in it. There's a bird in it.

Yeah, yeah. This is from Brian Smith. Have you been in contact with Brian before? No. He's super enthusiastic about comics. popped open there's a bird in it there's a bird in it yeah yeah this is from uh brian smith have you been in contact with brian before no he's super he's super enthusiastic about comics not only that he's a super nice guy he always leaves the nice comments and and twitters and whatnot so yeah anyway this is from brian first up i don't i don't say much on twitter except youtube likes so here's me in a nutshell my real name is brian i'm 36 i'm a huge comic book movie horror and science fiction fan

basically i love your show it's right up my alley being stuck living with my mom it's always hard to say mom for me yeah yeah i say mom is that weird if i just change it to mom it's fine okay good being so like our earthy charms they sure do being stuck living with my mom for various reasons disability social security crap etc you both give me something to laugh at every week as far as comics go i like marvel dc and dark horse but he's mainly a dc guy you have the honor of being my first time wait for it listening to a podcast yeah yeah nice misdirect yeah uh from the news to the comedy to the masons i'm just here for the snack and beer or foster that's an australian beer um that like the commercials told us can we shatter this illusion right now?

Yeah. I realise we're in the middle of the shout-out, but nobody drinks Foster's. No. It's a trick. It sucks. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If I'm overseas and it's the Alga, I'll begrudgingly drink one. Yeah.

A friend of mine worked in a liquor store for years, and one day a girl came in and said, could I get some Foster's? Yeah. And he'd never sold any before. And he was like, why? And she said, oh, my boyfriend, I'm coming over to my boyfriend's house. He wanted me to get him some beer, but I don't know what he likes. So nobody drinks it here.

It's a trick. They sponsor a lot of like. I think they're bigger overseas. Yeah. And they sponsor a lot of like Grand Prix stuff. Yeah, they do. So I guess if you're there, you have to drink it. Yeah.

But nobody wants to. No, nobody wants to. Yeah. Yeah. I went to a local beer shop here in our area recently, yesterday. And it's a very kind of hipsterish kind of area we live in, isn't it? Yeah. Like, nothing against them.

Good luck. There's a lot of craft beer. With your little moustaches and whatever. The neighborhood here is basically filled up with hipsters, crazy people, old Greek men. Sure. That's the mix. Sometimes all in one. But I went in and I'm like,

listen, I just want to get some Coronas because it's something that everybody enjoys, a Corona, right? I like a Corona. And he's like, oh, you know what? We don't really do that. We're more of a specialty beer. You know, I've got these other... I'm like, yep, thank you.

See you later. Fuck it out. I'm not interested in your weird specialty beers. If I wanted one, I would have come specifically looking for it. Most specialty beers, they're like, no, you can really Fuck it out. I'm not interested in your weird specialty beers. If I wanted one, I would have come specifically looking for it. Most specialty beers, they're like, no, you can really taste the honey. It's fucking weird. Your weird specialty beers are weird.

I just want a regular beer. You're a bigot. Anyway, let's get back to the shout out. Yeah, sorry. Brian, now that I've praised the podcast, he named a number of suggestions, which I've noted. He wants to, including one to insert movie concept here, making not terrible, which is the thing I do on my YouTube. So bring that over here.

So we pick a movie topic or something, and then we talk about how we would make that movie. I don't want to step on your toes, but yeah, let's do that. No, absolutely. That becomes mine as well. That's a good idea, isn't it? Yeah. And he goes, there you go, boys.

Food for thought. Congrats on the success. My, how you've grown. That's true. I have grown. I've physically grown like physically grown yeah yeah it's uncomfortable in the studio now it sure is well so you've grown a lot of mold and spores i have that was weird that was when i fell into the swamp yeah yeah yeah now you can find him on twitter though you can find him on uh brian smith on google slash youtube there's only one video there and i did

check it out where he's talking about how he's going to make YouTube videos about comics and stuff because he's got really interesting opinions on things. I do follow him on Twitter and the things he likes are interesting. So you can get there by going youtube.com slash ZLWSB. And I think Brian should put more videos up. Absolutely. Because you've got stuff to say and I like it. But he says that he hates his voice, but everybody hates their own voice. I hate my voice. I hate your voice. I know you do. My voice is beautiful. Amen. So yeah thanks brian i love you for brian is the best excellent shout out shout out indeed uh this one i've got one also from jay brent mosher who he sent us a whole lot of uh weekly planet logos and banners and stuff which obviously i can't show and i haven't

replied to this yet by now so i really really appreciate it just want to give a quick shout out to jay brent and i will and I will get back to you on that. Jay Brent, shout out. Shout out. Yeah. Last one. This one's directed directly to you, Mason. Yeah.

Wade Reese says, I enjoy punching and destroying ceilings. Do you enjoy punching ceilings? You know, I never have. There's a ceiling right above me, though. Let's just think about this. Yeah, it'd be really fun, wouldn't it? And there's a weight set here.

There is. Like in this room. I wonder if I could combine the two and like destroy your roof. I think, I mean, who's going to stop me? I mean, I won't. No, exactly, yeah. Because that would be crushing your creativity. Yeah, wouldn't it?

I don't want that. No, no. Be who you want to be. You know what? I'll crush your roof and I'll get back to you. Thanks, Wade. Absolutely. Shout out, Wade.

That's the shout outs for the week, Mason. Oh, shout out. Shout out. Shout out. Shout out. And that's the show. Sorry about the length of the show this week, Mason. I'm not sorry about the length of the show.

Longer and longer, I say. Like a Bollywood movie, four hours. Next one's going to be four hours. It could very well be next week I think we're doing upcoming movies that are good

or something sure and then we'll do a Captain America one and whatever don't make that presumption that they're going to be good though no

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love it every time thanks everybody bye