The Weekly Planet - 254 Superhero Showdown...6?

Episode Date: October 1, 2018

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This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. Red hot comic book movie news. Shooting up your butt hole. The Weekly Planet. The Weekly Planet. Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday. With me as always is my co-host Nick Mason. I'm here.

I'm having a great time. Do you know what? Today is Mason. No. Oh, yes, I do. What is it? It is. It's the fifth anniversary

of the Weekly Planet. Roughly, probably, yes. Probably something like that. Around then. We started about this time in 2013. Wow. We were younger men.

We were better men in a lot of ways. You were a younger man. I've just recently blossomed into my youth. Wow. Congratulations. Thank you. I feel very youthful.

And exuberant? Yes. Well, that's good. Look which way my baseball cap's pointed. Sideways. Yeah, that's right. And also your hat's inside out. You do it at all.

Yeah, that's right. Very good. Also, speaking of youth and exuberance, our friend over at the Steel Wars podcast, Steel Saunders, he's had a bloody... The man himself. The man himself. He's had a bloody bit of good luck and good fortune in his life.

He's won a billion dollars and he's quitting podcasting. Because why wouldn't you? Oh. Oh. No, he had a son. Yes, he did. Him and his wife. A little boy named... Do you got the names there?

Well, I don't have them there. I don't want to mess it up. It's Harrison Mark Leonard Saunders. Very good. You may recognize some of those names from people that Steele follows around the world. That's true. And will forever. So that's really good news.

Congratulations, Steele and Jackie. Congratulations to the Saunders family. All three of them. And Jerry, his cat. And Jerry the cat. Yeah, that's it, news. Congratulations, Steele and Jackie. Congratulations to the Saunders family. All three of them. And Jerry, his cat. And Jerry the cat. Yeah, that's it, exactly. You met Jerry? Yes.

Yeah, yeah, good on Jerry. That's fantastic news. Just before we get into the show, Mason, I just want to quickly shout out to my wife's podcast, Just Make the Thing, because I was on it earlier this week. I'll link it below. But basically, we talk about aging and getting older. We were going to ask you on,

but because you're only bossing them into you. Then why would you bother? Exactly yes i was too busy skateboarding obviously you know so yeah i actually came to your door but my hands were full of fidget spinners i couldn't operate the handle so i had to just leave so it was it was actually a lot of fun is that in the correct cusp of like out of touch it's absolutely fidget spinners are done it's well but they're not so far done that it's a like they're not they're not retro novelty anymore yeah just they're just lame and dumb right yeah you'd see them on a midday talk show yeah right like about now like along with dabbing yeah for sure yeah yeah yeah it's the perfect it's the

perfect time has passed so yeah if you want to check that out it's a bit of a bloody uh i don't know it's just a bit of a reflection So yeah, if you want to check that out, it's a bit of a bloody... I don't know, it's just a bit of a reflection. If you can take that reflection and turn it into like a one-second soundbite. How are you feeling about aging? It's all right. Oh, nice. Great.

I was going to ask you, but no point, right? No point, right? Yeah. All right. And we've got a stack of news this week, Mason. Yeah, big week of news. Almost enough to do a whole episode on, but we can't because we've got a bloody showdown to get to, I'll tell

you that much. We can't do that two weeks in a row. People will get upset. So let's burn through this as quickly as we can. What if we want to? We can do a grand experiment to see if people get upset. So we'll even label the episode as such, even put it in the time codes, and then not do it.

And even if we get this done quickly, I'll just leave like 30 minutes of just nothing, of dead air. Oh, that's a good call. Yeah, yeah. Just edit in a cough maybe. And here's the thing, maybe up to this point, we don't even know if we're going to do the superhero showdown. So we're just going to leave this open.

Here we go. Maybe we'll get to a point where we're like, well, that's the show, everybody. Bye. Oh, man. I know you hate this, well, that's the show, everybody. Bye. Oh, man. I know you hate this, Mason, but there is Star Wars news. I've got it up at the top.

Okay. Do you mind if we press on with this? Look, I do hate Star Wars news, as you know. Yeah. But I appreciate that you didn't preface it with some sort of grand charade. We don't have time for a grand charade, Mason. I've got 30 minutes of silence to get to, all right?

That's true, yeah. I mean, you're going to have to record that silence later. You're going to have to wait until I leave and then record the silence. Okay, so Kathleen Kennedy, who you know as the president of Lucasfilm, she's actually had her contract cancelled and she was thrown down a flight of stairs and into an active volcano. Huh. Yeah.

Why'd they build the stairs no sorry i read that wrong okay her contract was renewed for three years so that's better for her despite despite all the rumors yep and speculation which i'm sure we've talked about here of lucas from a very unhappy with how she's running the show yep and that she's definitely going to be fired this september where that that uh yeah right what people were saying it's the opposite of that that's not to say that people that she won't be fired between now and three years people get fired all the time but but at least this way she'll take away three years of huge executive salaries exactly regardless of how much work she does so there you go so obviously uh disney are

very happy with the way things are going the way way she's running things. Bob Iger even said last week, your dad, that the call to make Solo come out in May was his and his alone. And he takes full responsibility and was thrown down a flight of stairs into a volcano. I'm sorry for your loss, Mason. No, he had a good run. It's fine. Also, I kept saying to him, dad, dad, Bob Iger, my dad. Why are we building these?

Why would you put a flight of stairs above an active volcano? Why would you build anything on top of an active volcano? So he built the stairs, didn't he? Yeah. By hand. How weird. I guess maybe it was like, because you know some dads build a boat in their basement or whatever. Larry Bird paved his own driveway when he was playing NBL, yeah.

NBA. What, at the same time? Yep. I guess the NBL. He went off for a break. I guess the Australian Basket basketball league is much lower pressure he's NBA yeah

but literally at the same time yeah that's right he demanded a basketball court be built next to his driveway and he would come on and off the court

and he would pave it that's right that's commitment to both drivewaying and NBAing yeah so there you go how do you feel

about that is that part of remember you can get that Jordan versus Bird, like Tiger... Oh, electronics game. Electronics game. Was there driveway paving in that? Driveway paving minigame? Almost certainly.

Were any of those games good? Yes. Were they? I played one and it wasn't like a branded one, but it was like this one. It was like a Vietnam one where you would go like in between huts. Yeah. And you could like machine gun people.

Or you could like hurl a grenade around a corner. It was amazing. But how many guys did you have? Because normally there was like four. Oh, yeah. Because you could see the outline of it. Yeah, yeah. I think maybe it was like a four guy span, maybe four or five.

Great. Yeah. Well, I love that you love the game Vietnam Killing the Vietnamese, Killing the Locals. How do you know I was killing the Vietnamese? I was. It was called Vietnam Killing the Locals. Killing the Locals, yeah.

By Tiger. I would argue that that game, issues aside, of Killing the Locals, was probably not a good game. No, absolutely not. Gameplay-wise. Yeah. No, I don't think any of them are good. There must have been one good one.

No, because they're all essentially the same crap. Yeah. Yeah. If you want a good handheld system, get an N-Gage, all right? Oh, the Nokia N-Gage. Get N-Gaged with the Nokia N-Gage. Yeah. You've got to take the battery out of the back of the phone or whatever to put a game in.

Remember that? Yes. Yeah. That lasted like four minutes, that system. Oh, but what classic games emerged from it? They probably had a Need for Speed or a Road Rash. They definitely had a... Oh, there might have been in...

Oh, no. I think everyone's got Tetris. I don't know who owns that or what owns that. Russia owns it. I don't know. That's how they got into that system because everyone's put Tetris onto everything. What do you think, though, about Kathleen Kennedy back for another three years? Are you surprised?

Not really. I mean, who are they going to replace her with? I don't know. Someone else, I guess. Oh, yeah. Good point. Yeah. I just feel...

Don't know. Somebody who used to work at Comcast or something. I don't know. I don't know any of the details of these. Yeah. This is above my pay grade. Yeah. Just a little bit.

Sure. Yeah. Well, people are saying there's people at Lucasfilm, like Dave Filoni, who is in charge of like Clone Wars and Rebels. And just doing crime. Just doing crime. Dave Filoni.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But, but he, I don't think as far as I know, he's had experience running a studio before,

like she's worked with Spielberg and produced like Jurassic Park and a bunch of other films. Like there's a difference between being the creative person and, and doing this side of things, you know? So yeah, look. And also the last, I think she's got three of the top five.

Highest grossing films of all time. Like from the last like run of Star Wars films. Yeah. Right. And you can also argue that the Star Wars and they're all going to do well or whatever, but Phantom Menace isn't in there as far as I know. Maybe it is.

Well, the Clone Wars isn't in there. Whatever that second, the Attack of the Clones. Yoda's doing a flip, that one. Yeah, sure. Anyway. No, I get it, yeah. Look, again, I think despite people going,

oh, you know, I hated The Last Jedi, I hated Solo, whatever, the financial track record is there and that's all they care about. Exactly. And I think it's also done a really good job of bringing in new fans as well because it's everywhere it's catering to all demographics and all markets except china who doesn't give a shit about star wars apparently because yeah they didn't get it in like the 70s or 80s so when they roll in a new star wars film now they're like look mark hamill's in star Wars. They're just like, what? You mean that guy

from Wing Commander? Yeah. So, there you bloody go. Do you mean the Guyver? The Guyver? The Guyver. What's the Guyver?

We've had conversations about the Guyver many times. Explain it to me again. It's an anime, it was an anime about... Explain it to me like I didn't care last time you explained it.

Okay, cool. Well, anyway. So, the Guyver was like this anime and probably i think probably a manga as well it was about a kid and he finds like a super bio power suit and he can shoot lasers out of it and whatever and there's a live action version mark hamill's in it what's he in it see the suit the voice of the suit see the kid what's he doing in that suit i think he might be the mentor i think he might be the guy the guy guy in the suit? Yeah. The Guyver. Yeah, the Guyver. Okay, good. I'd have to look

it up. Is it better than the TV show My Secret Identity with Jerry O'Connell? No. Okay, then. What is? Nothing. That show is all about youth, which you know I love. Well, you're in it. Of course you love it. Exactly, and flying around on spray cans. That's right. You know, so... I know what it's about.

Okay, what else we got here? We got some casting for the Birds of Prey film. and flying around on spray cans. That's right. So. I know what it's about. Okay. What else we got here? We got some casting for the Birds of Prey film. I'm listening. Mary, are you looking at Mark Hamill for The Guyver? Do you want to do that first? Okay. Yeah.

Before we do the seduce. Okay. The Guyver 1991. Here we go. He looks like he is The Guyver. Nice. This is a film. Jimmy Walker's in it.

Who's that? You know, the guy in that sitcom, he was like, Dino,'s in it who's that you know the guy on in that sitcom he was like don't all my hate you know that guy i know him from simpsons yeah that's who he is okay yeah he's in the show good times anyway no he is the cia agent max reed who's played by mark hamill that's right he's the guyver nice anyway you have different news i'm ready to listen let's just do this yeah let's talk about the guy for two hours i don't recognize any other names in this that's not to say that they haven't gone on to have illustrious careers under different pseudonyms absolutely

all right so uh yeah birds of prey film yeah we've got our Huntress and Black Canary. I believe Mary Elizabeth Winstead is going to be Huntress. And Black Canary will be Journey Smollett Bell, who I do not know. I think she's in True Blood and some other stuff. Sure. As of late. Good casting, it seems. Well, I only really know one of them. That's Mary Elizabeth Winstead.

She's great in everything. 10 Cloverfield Lane and other things she's been in. That one where the superheroes, they're at a school or whatever Sky High yeah she's good in The Thing prequel even though it's

a terrible film but she's good in it Scott Pilgrim what else do you want not True Detective what was that Fargo she's in the last season

of Fargo yeah she's great killing it yeah I think that castings are really good and it seems like from the looks of things though I don't want

to get ahead of myself because you know who knows but they might make this one. Terrific. Yeah. So DC are moving ahead with several films that might actually look like they're getting made. They're actually going to make them, right. Which is great.

How close do you think they've gotten? Like, what do you think the closest to full production they've gotten to before they're like, nah, pulling the plug on this one? Justice League Mortal was like days away. Yeah, right. Yeah, that was all ready to go uh-huh yeah yeah it was days from filming yeah right i reckon there's probably one there's at least one that they've filmed it and they've gone like new like fantastic for it yeah yeah new mutants is probably the that that one's maybe

not coming out anymore i can aware if they're releasing dark phoenix which we will talk about i think that will because they're they're in Dark Phoenix, which we will talk about, I think they will. Because they're in a weird limbo, though. I know what you mean. Yeah. Makes you think, doesn't it? Sure does. Makes you want to do some detecting, Mason.

And speaking of detecting, we got a trailer for Creed 2. And the reason I say that is because there's also a trailer for Holmes and Watson. Because, Mason, it's a new movie. What am I doing

what are you doing get me out of this I'm moody no let's keep doing this it's all links till the end of the episode there's a bunch of trailers this week

there is a bunch of trailers it's true okay let's do Holmes and Watson okay so it's basically it's the team you know

Will Ferrell and John C. Reilly Step Brothers the basketball one. Semi-Pro. Sorry, no, they didn't do that together. Talladega Nights. Talladega Nights, yep. Which I didn't like.

I've only seen once. I didn't really like it. I didn't love it. Diminishing returns for those ones. I feel it's better than Semi-Pro. Yeah, right. Which is just a sports movie with some jokes in it. Some jokes.

Some jokes. Yeah, right. Not good ones and not a lot but yeah some but there's some uh what do you think this homes and watson trailer i as soon as i finished watching it i said i don't know if it's going to be any good but i'll still definitely watch it yeah absolutely yeah do you like the references where they're doing a selfie and uh and they're like no shit sherlock because it's like it's modern day but also is it? You know what I mean? It's not. I think that the

the charisma of John C. Reilly and Will Ferrell sort of carries that off. I think if you'd gotten you know if we'd gotten a Vince Vaughn and a one of the Wilsons you know remember that Google movie they did? Yeah Google. Dad's Googled.

Dad's Googled. Vince Vaughn and Owen Wilson. Remember remember that one and it was all like they're all dancing to bloody um but we're not good at this this week are we uh kesha no the the the rapper guy mclemore okay no he's not in it but there's like a there's a c there's a sequence where they put on mclemore like even in the trailer it was eight months after Thrift Shop had come and gone. Oh, it wasn't the song where Macklemore insists he's not gay, but he's cool with it? No, it wasn't that one, no. But anyway, I think if it were in the hands of some other people,

I'd be like, ugh, but they have a certain charm, and I think maybe I have a certain amount of faith that they will make this a good movie. Yeah, I think I'm with you or at the very least i think they are very good at just 110 committing to whatever stupid scenario they're in absolutely they are yeah and if you just let them do that and roll through and just keep saying some fun like eventually organically you get some good funny stuff. I'm just checking who's directing it,

because it's not the guy who did bloody... It is a Coen, but is it Eton Coen? Yeah, it's Eton Coen. Is it related? No, they're unrelated. Yeah, so he did Get Hard, the one where Wilfredo goes to jail. I saw that.

It's okay. It's fine. But he's also written on, like, Beavis and Butthead, Get Hard, Tropic Thunder. Does he have anything to do with Walk Hard, which is the superior hard comedy movie? No. Probably not. But he's done some decent stuff. So we'll see.

Did you see The House, which was the Will Ferrell, Amy Poehler movie? Apparently that's atrocious. Where they open the casino in the house no i didn't say i also didn't say it i've heard it because it looks fine but apparently it's just dreadful isn't that interesting yeah what what is the difference i wonder because it's is it a case of because it looks way more straight laced than say uh anchor man or something like that or even a even a get hard yeah where it's like we have a loose element of plot and we'll just throw some jokes in and see how it goes

but i feel like maybe the house is what like amy poller and and will ferrer just sort of hired guns there to be likable and say some lines yeah right maybe that's the key you know very possible i mean and also do they even they have chemistry together? Because they're both amazing comedic actors, but maybe they don't work well together. Maybe they couldn't spin that pig shit into gold, as the expression goes. But I mean, it's odd that they, it's really odd to me that two comedians who are very famous for just like improvising on set and as a career. They'd just be like, yeah, just say some lines. Yeah.

But again, I haven't seen it. Me neither, maybe it's amazing. Let's not see it though. Nah. Should we though see Creed 2, the sequel to Creed, which is a sequel to Rocky Balboa, which is a sequel to Rocky 5, which is a sequel to Rocky 4,

which is a sequel to Rocky 3, which is a sequel to Rocky 1, which is a prequel to Rocky 2. Nice. Thanks. Good work there. I wonder how you're going to pull out of this dive. And then you did the...

Because I'm like, comedy is all about a rule of threes, and there's more than three in this. What's he going to do? He's gone off book. Is he going to do a double rule of threes? No, you turned it around at the end. It was pretty good. Thanks.

What did you think of this trailer, though? Good. You know what I this trailer, though? Good. You know what I did enjoy about it? Yeah. Is it something that didn't even occur to me, is that we're going to have something of a face-off between Rocky and Ivan Drago. They're probably not going to hit each other.

No. I would like to see that kind of... But it's also... It doesn't seem like that kind of movie. How's about this? Here we go. They meet in the ring, because they're both the coaches.

They stare each other down. There's no words spoken, about this here we go they meet they meet in the ring because they're both the coaches they had they stare each other down there's no words spoken but we know that one of them has to fight logan paul exactly and then and they they speak oh they don't speak they just they just stare at each other and you know there's you know all these decades of history behind it and then they go their separate corners and then creed and the andrago son come in and they fight and then Creed and Drago's son come in and they fight and then there's victory and, you know, lives are changed or whatever and then credits roll and at the end Ivan Drago's coming out like a side door in an alley and just Rocky just hits him with a chair.

Like just pulps him in the alley. Post credits? Yeah, post credits. Just runs at him from behind like in the alley and just wallops him with like a baseball bat or something. And he goes down and he just hits him a few more times and he runs away. Amazing.

I'd watch that. I would watch that. Yeah. And you save it till the post-credits because it doesn't have to break the flow of the rest of the movie. Exactly, yeah. You just have your ridiculous hit with a chair. Exactly.

It's not Rocky's story anymore, you know. It's Creed's story. That's right. A bit of a teaser. Yeah, a bit of a teaser. Why do you think, though, Creed is fighting this guy? Because they're saying, it's hinted at in this trailer, that he's not doing it because of his father.

Probably money. Probably money. But also, he doesn't know his father. That's true, yeah. He's an illegitimate child. He grew up in foster homes and foster care or whatever. And then when he was 10, he was taken out by Creed, the original Creed's wife.

Yes. Who is not his mother, but raised him. Thank you for the summary because I didn't remember. You don't remember the plot of Creed? Correct. Yeah. So what do you think it is that he's doing it? Probably has to save the rec center.

I don't think any of that thing. Do you think he might have to save his girlfriend's music career? Because she's going deaf or something? Yes. From the last one? Yeah. So she's bad at music? Well, that's why she's going deaf.

Okay. The music caused her deafness. Yeah. Yeah. Because he's got a newborn kid and whatever. I wonder whether it's a blend of Rocky 3, where his hubris kind of gets him defeated. Yes. And then Rocky IV, where he's fighting a far superior Russian opponent.

I wonder if that's what they're kind of doing here. You think it's a remake of sorts? Yes. Do you think that means there's going to be two big old fights in this movie? Possibly, yeah. I think he's going to get beaten badly. And maybe there's two Drago fights. Or maybe he's beaten by somebody else.

Right, okay. But I don't know. I think also if somebody, like the media was... Maybe the robot beats him up. Maybe the robot's kid beats him up. I think if the media that was relentlessly hounding you that this guy killed your father and he's a greater boxer than you or whatever,

then maybe he's just trying to prove a point. Also that dude is scary as fuck. Like the new guy, the new Drago. Yeah. It looks terrifying. Yeah. Cause he towers over Michael B.

Jordan. Yeah. Oh, Michael B. Jordan's not a massive guy anyway, but yeah, but there's also, there's that massive,

you remember from Rocky three, four, there is that huge height difference between Creed and Rocky. And that's real. Cause Stallone's not a big guy either, but Dov Lundgren's 100 feet tall and still is to this day. Wow. Yeah, yeah.

He's just coming into his youth like you are. Yeah, great. Good for him. Yeah. This looks great though. Honestly, I can't wait. I think it's going to be terrific. Would you watch a Creed 3?

Yeah, I'll watch all of these. Especially if it's the follow-up to Rocky beating up creed and ally with a chair uh-huh yeah uh what about yeah what are you gonna say it's gonna say ham do you want do you want four more sequels do you want there to be a creed 6 not necessarily okay uh but i i like this i think there's an you know there's a bit of juice in this because they got four decent Rocky movies or five because eventually because they because they didn't do because five is terrible apparently I haven't seen

any Rocky Balboa but no I think there's depending how they do it yeah I think there's room for this next trailer I'd actually ask

whether you've seen this but have you seen Fantastic Beasts and the Crimes of Gay Wizard Hitler the new trailer I have seen the new trailer and the biggest twist of that is that snake be a woman

and the internet was up in arms. Now, some people came up with this twist. They're like, what do you think about this? And I'm like, I don't understand. And they're like, you know, from the last Harry Potter movie. And I went, I haven't seen the last Harry Potter movie. Okay, do you want me to break it down for you? Yes.

Okay, so in the original Harry Potter films and books, Voldemort has a snake. It's a big old snake. Yes. As big as you can possibly imagine. I can imagine a pretty big snake. It's as big as that. Wow! It's actually not as big as the snake in the second Harry Potter, so it's not that big. I was going to say, I remember there being a snake in Harry Potter and having not seen the last movie. It's like anaconda size. You ever seen the movie Anaconda? Yeah. It's like that size. Wow. Yeah, maybe a little bit bigger. Still wow. Yeah.

So basically it's called Nagini. You don't know anything of it other than it's a snake. And you haven't seen these movies. I'm going to spoil a little bit of it. But Voldemort puts a part of his soul in the snake. I know what a horcrux is. Okay, good. But I didn't know you knew it was in a snake.

Now I do. Yeah, that's what I'm telling you. Nice. And Neville Longbottom beheads it in the final Harry Potter movie, right? Yep. But it turns out that that snake was at one point friends with Johnny Depp, the gay wizard Hitler. Yeah.

Though I don't think he's gay. We'll get into that. Oh, they've changed it. Well, I don't think he ever was. Jude Law is Dumbledore, and I think... There's a lot of slander in this, depending on how you interpret any of this. Well, they are.

Okay, so sidebar. So basically they were friends and the implication is that Jude Law, Dumbledore was in love with Grindelwald. Yep. But it wasn't reciprocated. I see. And Grindelwald kind of manipulated that

to kind of sway Dumbledore. Right. Certain opinions. So that's why Dumbledore keeps saying in these trailers, he can't move against Grindelwald because it'd be Toad's Orcs. Could be Toad's Orcs. But I think it also might be like the Wizarding Council's like, you can't do anything Dumbledore because you're too wrapped up in this

and he killed your sister or something maybe. It'd be Toad's Orcs. It'd be Toad's Orcs also. Yeah. So that snake though. Yes. Was friends with Grindelwald and was also a woman. And this is apparently some kind of condition that some people have in the magical community, specifically the Indonesian area, which is where this woman is from, where it's kind of like being a vampire, but you turn into a snake.

Do you mean a werewolf? Kind of like being a werewolf. Correct. Thank you. Where you turn into a snake. But it gets to the point where you just turn into a snake forever. I see. So it's like an affliction that eventually gets you and everything about you

becomes a snake. Now is this another of these weird retcons that J.K. Rowling's been doing for the last 10 years or whatever? Yes. Right. So this isn't in the original books. It's not like, here's the condition where you can turn into a snake forever.

This is a new thing. It's a new condition where you can turn into a snake forever this is a new thing it's a new condition where you can turn into a snake or whatever correct yeah so people are up in arms or indifferent and there's also people saying why is it like the one asian person in these films like a snake woman there are other asian people in this film and in these movies uh cho chan i think her name is from um harry potter films but yeah so there's a there's a bit of uproar about the change in the law and the race

and can a person even be a snake? that's also there's a big point of contention well we'll find out won't we because I'm in the prime of my youth

yes I feel currently I can do anything so see you in a couple of weeks when I'm a snake great but you can't come back

from being a snake you know that right? no I can oh okay because of youth because of youth I Because of youth. I wasn't aware of that. Yeah.

So, yeah. What do you think of any of that? Look, I don't have many opinions about that because most of it I've just learned. Yep. But there sure is a lot of fantastic beasts in this trailer. And where do you find them? They're just in the case. They're always in the case.

If you don't open the case, everything will be fine. But in the last couple of trailers, I'm like, why are they still calling these Fantastic Beasts when there's very few Fantastic Beasts? But this trailer? They've proven me wrong. There's heaps of Fantastic Beasts in this. More than ever.

They should have called it Heaps of Beasts. Fantastic Beasts 2, Heaps of Beasts. You're not wrong. I thought this trailer looked really good, though. Same, yeah. I didn't even mind the heavy Johnny Depp-ness in it

which I normally do in these trailers and we all sighed when he turned up in the first film or whatever but uh no

I'm really looking forward to this and maybe we'll do another Harry Potter episode before this movie comes out how many do we have left? three? four

four okay yeah there's a lot of them in there there sure is yeah but they're getting better. Yeah, they are. I think you're going to have a good ride to the end, Mason.

Terrific. I think you're going to have a ride to the end. I mean, I'm going to have that snake twist spoiled, aren't I? Yes. But speaking of a ride to the end, Mason, the Bumblebee trailer is a new one. Oh, you're so good at this. Thanks. No, initially I wasn't very good at it, was I?

Like the Harry Potter films. Yeah. I got caught in a web of nonsense, but I've got myself out of it. Terrific. So there was an international trailer and a regular trailer for the Bumblebee movie. There's a lot of G1 style Transformers. There's a video about all of them on my trailer you can check out below. But basically, this looks great.

It does look great. Weird, right? Yeah. Who would have thought in our lifetimes a good Transformers movie? Well, when did Transformers the 80s come out? Do you consider that one a good one? Yes. I would say it's not good.

What do you think of that? Oh, it hurts my feelings. I just think a great animation and for the day, sure, a lot of that really works. But I think that movie is not good. You would. I do think that though. I said that just then. Well, you would. I am saying that. And I said that just then. Well, you would.

I am saying that. And you would. And I do. Yeah. Yeah. But this trailer, did you recognize any Transformers in particular that you went,

ooh. Well, there's Shockwave. Yeah. First appearance of Shockwave. Yeah, yeah. Or maybe he's in one of the. Which one? Is that the one eye guy?

He's got the one eye and he's got the blaster on. No, he's in them. He's in them. He's in other ones. What does he do in them? He's just in it. Great.

What do any of them do? Waste our time is what they do. Yeah. Yeah. But I enjoy Shockwave because he's the one guy who doesn't have an Earth mode because he never came to Earth. Yeah. Or he never got transformed at the Ark. So he's just a 35-foot-long flying ray gun just flying around.

Didn't he say on Cybertron to hold the fort while Megatron went to Earth? Like he ran the Resistance or something? Probably. Yeah, good on him. We also see Optimus Prime. Yes. In his classic Optimus Prime mode. But I guess he'd be space truck.

He'd be a space truck, yeah. We see, yeah, this one, they've gone out of their way to be cartoon accurate. Like your Starscreams and your Skywarps and your Thundercrackers turn into the spaceship versions of themselves. Yes, the triangular jets. Kind of the triangular ones, yeah. Absolutely. Great stuff.

There's also bloody tape in his chest. Yes. Whatever his name is. Yeah, tape in his chest. Tape in his chest. He's got a bloody Jaguar in there. That Jaguar's been in, remember it was in 2? It was like an infiltration Jaguar. Yeah. Yeah. It wasn't tape in his chest. Tape in his chest. He's got a bloody Jaguar in there. That Jaguar's been in, remember it was in two? It was like an infiltration Jaguar.

Yeah. Yeah. It wasn't tape in its chest, was it? No, it was. Who knows? Ball of spikes in a satellite? Was it? Yeah.

And at one point, wasn't it just like a bunch of black marbles that turned into a robot? No, that was the first one, wasn't it? Oh, I don't know. None of us do no but that's the thing because there was there wasn't there's there was no state i don't know if you know this we've talked at length about the transformers movies but one of the things that it was odd that they threw out was that transformers really only have one alternate mode. And in the movie, it was just like, yeah, they can turn into anything.

They can scan a vending machine, turn into a vending machine. That's fine. You can be a car and then a plane and then a train. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. You can look exactly like a human. That's cool. It's fine.

It doesn't matter. Human size, robot size. It doesn't matter. You can turn into a big swarm of flying metal bees and then into a truck. It doesn't matter. Because in the cartoon as well, and look, a lot of that cartoon isn't good because it's from the 80s no i agree yeah uh the the ship that they crash land on earth yes scans the environment and then gives them a mode based on something that's roughly their size yes and then they're stuck like that forever but in this it's just yeah like you said it's scan literally anything yeah whenever you want also exactly yeah

which i guess was for marketing purposes because then you could just be like well now bumblebees that this year's kamara or whatever that's probably true but anyway i i enjoyed the look of this it's ah looks so good does it good do you think it will be good i think it'll be better than the other ones like that's not what i said yeah do you think it would be good yes that's a given yeah but you said then yeah i think it will be good like genuinely yeah right and if it's not what do we do um burn hasbro to the ground can we just continue living our lives oh we can do that yeah yeah i'm saying if we got the opportunity yeah like let's say we went on holiday yeah yeah you and me together yeah we just and we were we were at a like a like a like a crystal clear lake and like a like a log cabin or whatever we're just chilling out there

and i'm like hey look at the other side of the lake it's the hasbro headquarters yeah we go burn it down okay that's fine let's do that if it's bad if it's bad and if we go on holidays and if we're staying in the lake in the Hasbro... Offices, the headquarters. It happened to be across the other end of the lake. Okay, yeah, deal. Great. Got a whole lot of Fox and X-Men news.

Do we have any more Transformers thoughts? I'm trying to think. We've got a couple of triple changes. Yeah, so one of them is new, I think, and the other one wasn't a triple changer. Right, okay. And that's Justin Theroux and Angela Bassett, I believe. There you go, right.

And they're going to give them like personalities and stuff. Can you imagine? You mean not just weird stock, like generic, you know, stereotypes? I know that's what you wanted, Mason, but that's not what we're getting this time around. There's so many stereotypes from around the world that I haven't gotten to yet. Where's the where's

the belgian stereotype you know i did a french hot rod they did do that yeah so why don't they do a belgium decepticon or whatever turns into a waffle maker it does yeah it looks great like genuinely and i i really and i think a lot of that is the design. Yeah. Because they look like things. And that's okay with me. Yeah. I love that triple changing effect where they're flying and then they land and they run and then they're a car and then they're running again. I think it's incredible. And you can actually see it happen.

Yeah. As opposed to it just being a scramble of tiny minuscule gears. That you see right up close. Yeah. Great. Also John Cena's in it. Yeah. Some people have suggested that he might be the original G.I.

Joe. I think he's the dude from Mask. There's a character named Burns from Mask. Oh, John Cena's in it. Yeah. Some people have suggested that he might be the original G.I. Joe. I think he's the dude from Mask. There's a character named Burns from Mask. Oh, there you go. I think it might be in Mask Universe. Okay, cool. I think I mentioned that in my first try. All right.

I can see Mask linking together. Maybe if they acquire some Transformers technology and they're like, let's put it into our cars. Yeah, and our masks. And our masks. Yeah. Good. Cool, man. Okay, this is Fox and also X-Men News.

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This is my Rocky V of transitions. They say open with your second best transition and then close with your strongest transition. I haven't done that. Do you have one more left? No. Then you've really ruined this. Thanks.

Okay, so Battle Angel. Remember that movie? Sort of. It's coming out December 21st, or it was. That's already passed, that time. Yeah, but of this year I'm talking about, uh, because the bumblebee movies opening that date as his homes and Watson,

as his Aquaman, as his welcome to Marwan, which is the one where Steve Carell has dolls and they're helping him with PTSD or whatever. Have you seen those trailers? It's pretty good. Is that, is that an India or is it like a wacky CGI comedy?

It's, uh, it's both. It seems like it's got a lot of cgi it looks a bit like the cgi in uh did you ever see small soldiers yes yeah but it's that but it's like did i ever see small soldiers but it's feelings one of phil hartman's finest roles yes he's in that he is in that and also dennis leary at the end dennis leary is in that at the end yeah i liked that movie does steve carell do big movies anymore like uh evan almighty or some stuff i'm sure he does but he does a lot of indies also he

he's so rich from the office i guess that's probably true he probably just does stuff that he wants to do yeah okay so what do you think about that battle angel moving away from bumblebee homes and watson aquaman and welcome to marwin bloody good luck to him that's what i say and it was i think it was a really good move because those movies all would have crushed battle angel battle angel alita that's correct yes so i think that think it was a really good move because those movies all would have crushed Battle Angel. Battle Angel Alita. That's correct, yes. So I think that's not a bad move at all.

Also, in Gambit news. Oh, yes. It's been pushed from July of 2019. I feel like every six months I'm just going to announce that it's pushed back another year to March of 2020. Also, it's a romantic comedy of sorts. There we go. There you go. I mean, if it ever comes out, which it won't.

Yeah. Yeah. Because that, I guess, pushes it over the Disney merger thing. I don't know. I don't know what that is. But make it, I guess, or don't. Or don't make it. Is Channing Tatum still attached?

I guess. Or he isn't. We haven't heard that he isn't. Yeah. Also, Deadpool 2 is getting a PG-13 Christmas cut with Fred Savage in it. make it is channing tatum still attached i guess or he isn't we haven't heard that he isn't yeah also deadpool 2 is getting a pg-13 christmas cut with fred savage in it i heard about that so this is this is he as i understand it it's going to be uh fred savage is reprising his role as the kid from the princess bride yes and deadpool is going to be telling the story of deadpool to him is that right he's taking the peter he's taking the Columbo role.

Correct. The Peter Falk role. Is he dead? I think he is dead, yeah. Okay. That's a great movie. Agreed. And a great book.

I don't know if you've ever read it. I've never read it. It's good. It's pitched. The premise of it is that it is the condensed version of a real, like there's a real book. Right. Like there's a historical novel

that is filled with you know thousands of pages like a lord of the rings-esque yeah and it's but there's you know there's there's pages devoted to you know the economy and the weather patterns or whatever it's it's a story and it's an almanac or whatever yeah and so the idea is william goldman who who wrote the book like condensed it like it was the idea is that when he was a kid his his grandpa told him the story and then one day he tracked down the original book and it was so boring that he's he was like oh my granddad must have just cut out all the boring bits so he's condensed the book down into its core elements so people should do that with lord of the rings

yeah i know right they did the movies i guess yeah great sure anyway are you gonna see this because i'm not no i don't think i will yeah i think what i'll do is i'll wait for the i'll wait for somebody to put up the fred savage clips on youtube and i'll just watch that that sounds good like i think i think this is this is a funny bit yep and if they just released it as a as a short yeah uh or in front of the DVD, or maybe there's a new version of the DVD and it's like, you can have a PG version of Clickthru and then there's that clip and then it's, that would be fun. But re-releasing it in cinemas just for that is ballsy.

I don't know if it's going to work. Well, it depends how much money. Look at my ballsy. Very good. It depends how much money they put into it, which I imagine is not that much yeah i think the stuff they reshot is not going to be crazy special effects or anything yeah right yeah i think they'll probably do all right i mean if that is this is this just gonna is this a is this deadpool one and two put together i think it might be maybe it is yeah uh the other thing is dark is Dark Phoenix has been pushed back from February to June of next year.

It's in the summer months. It's going to have a crack at whatever movies come out next year. Correct. In that time. Yes. Maybe it'll pay off. Maybe they need to fix it between now and then. Yeah.

I don't know because the trailer came out and then a day later they announced that they were pushing it back six months or whatever, which is an odd move. But they did it, and the trailer is... We're sorry, we're going to fix everything. What do you think? I can't remember what happens in it. I think that's a good sign that it's not a good trailer. I thought it was okay, but there was nothing in it

except for one line that made me go, oh, that's interesting. And that one line is Magneto's talking to Professor X and he's like, look, there's always a speech and you're always sorry and nobody cares. Right. Yeah. Which kind of sums up these X-Men films. It really does, doesn't it?

Yeah. But I really like that line and I really like those actors. Yeah. But it is a sense of like, why are we doing this still? I also don't care about any of the kid actors, really. I mean, I guess... I mean, you saw Cycl really. No. I mean I guess about a boy boy. About a boy boy. I quite like him. Yeah even though I don't

think he's a kid anymore. No he's an adult definitely. I think you're younger than him now. Yeah I know. Obviously. Yeah. But it seems like a lot of the story beats from X-Men 3 I mean also because that is a Dark Phoenix film in a way. In a way.

But it's Brotherhood of Mutants in the woods. And, you know, some of the mutant team are killed by the Phoenix Force or Jean Grey. And now they're going to stop her and they're going to sacrifice themselves. And it even looks like, colour-wise, it looks like the same. themselves and and it even looks like color wise it looks like the same like it looks like the the the weird kind of saturated gray that the the x the flashbacks in x-men 3 yeah would were filmed in i guess i don't know there's also not enough no alien stuff there is some space stuff and we see jessica chastain's character who is a Shi'ar or whatever, but we don't get any sense of that.

I bet it's like two minutes at the start. Yeah, see, that's the thing. I thought this was the one where they were going to be like, okay, we're going to space and here's aliens and here's the large universe. No, Mason, it's in a forest again.

Great. Yeah, I think maybe they've gone with, well, people don't want that extra element, so let's just have a somebody whisper like an alien whisper in her ear at the start of the movie or something great no good don't want that want aliens i want eight aliens whispering in their ears in a forest or a church or whatever yeah it's also getting to the point where this movie set in 1992 the original x-men it came out in 99 but i think it's set in 2004-ish, 2005.

And those guys should be well on their way to being Ian McKellen and Michael Stewart. Yeah, right. That's true. And they're still 35. They're in the flush of their youth or whatever I say. Apparently they are. I mean, who cares? Because who cares about this timeline?

It's ruined. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Do you think if they're going to bring these guys into the Marvel Universe, do you think they're going to recast them again? Do you think this is the last draft for all these actors? Absolutely it is.

Yeah. I mean, it would be nice to have a good send-off like on a solid film, but I feel like we also got that with Logan. Yeah, right. That was a really good end to some good films some average films but if you do look at the list of films here there's more good than bad but the bad really stands out it really does a lot of the good stuff is from so long ago

that it's not really good yeah no i agree yeah like x-men 1 x-men 1 was definitely good at the time i think i've i re-watched it you know five years ago or something and i'm like well this is still good yeah the performances and stuff is still good in it but it does have that a lot of stuff from that era is quite basic and if you look at it now i feel it it looks it seems unfinished like i recently saw somebody some of the first sam raimi spider-man yeah it looks unfinished yeah like this there's a there'll be a scene in a coffee shop or at school or whatever and it looks just like a bad set like a sitcom set for a school or whatever

it doesn't look like like now when you see a you know in spider-man homecoming where you see a little tom holland at school everything looked like they've gone okay well there'll be a there'll be a bulletin board and let's make 50 real flyers and put it up so if you if you pause and you look it looks like a real school yeah with some of this sort of stuff you look at it and you go that's just a why would there be a blank wall there when there could be something there if this is a real world why is that why is that you know and that's that's how a lot of stuff looks absolutely yeah but i think like action-wise still pretty solid yeah they fight on top of the Statue of Liberty.

That's good stuff. And a man turns into a blob, and then he turns into water. Yep. And there's a bit where someone gets hit with the laser, I believe. Nice. And there's the bit where Hugh Jackman cuts that guy's gun barrel off. It's at the start, isn't it? It is at the start, yeah.

That is a good introduction to that character. Yeah, it is, right? Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, you're right. The bad stuff, it's just so overwhelmingly in your face bad. And just flat. Yeah.

I don't think X-Men 3, in hindsight, is that much worse than 1 and 2. You're probably right. Yeah. It's easily the worst of those three. Yeah, right. But I don't think it's the massive nosedive that X-Men Origins was. Right. Yeah.

Oh, but you're right. No, speaking of a nosedive and speaking of in-your-face bad. Just the worst. Just the worst. Yeah, that really, that was a real gut punch at the time. Boy, was it. Yeah. Yeah.

Anything else on this trailer? No. We might do a video on the X-Men timeline or whatever this week. All right. We'll see how that goes, Mason, because we haven't recorded it yet. But it will go really well. Knowing us. Knowing us.

I mean, I've got you thumb aside. You've got whatever you have. I don't know what it is. Experience. I've got Matt, the editor. I can send it to Matt. There we go. You've got Matt on his side.

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Now, let's do a superhero show. Yeah, let's do it. It's been a long time. Long time between drinks. I know a lot of people probably know the rules, but do you want to quickly recap? Okay, here's the deal. People want to know who is the best out of two given protagonists. Yes. What we do is you imagine, use your imagination.

I will. You use your imagination and you imagine. We're all with the house of ideas here, you know. I understand. We're imagineers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, you imagine that the two protagonists appear at opposite ends of a regulation-sized American football field.

How big is that? We don't know. I was hoping to use Marvel Stadium at this point. Okay. Because in Australia, in Melbourne, we have Marvel Stadium. Is it now called Marvel Stadium or is it next year? Technically it is, but they haven't changed any of the signage. So I feel it'd be inappropriate.

Well we just had footy finals fever Mason let me tell you that much and so I think next this time next year it'll be well on the way. Yeah good. Anyway the two people

appear at opposite sides of a standard size American football field however large that is they immediately decide that the other person is a threat and then they have to

seek to eliminate that person by whatever means that character would do yes so maybe if a character is inclined to kill other kill people then they will go in for the kill if it's a character like batman who does not kill they will attempt us to subdue depending on the version of batman the version of batman they have the standard equipment that they would normally be carrying with them.

And the specified otherwise. Uh-huh. And they can call in something that they could normally call in. Yeah. Like a, like Ghost Rider's motorcycle or like an airstrike

or something. Doctor Who's TARDIS or whatever. Yeah, for sure. Absolutely. Also, we're going to be putting in a smattering of ultimatums throughout as well. Okay, great.

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So here we bloody go. Do you want to kick it off or do you want me to kick it off? You can kick it off. I think this is a great one to start with. This is from I'mNotDavidBowie00. Iron Man. Wait a minute. Denial first sign.

That probably is David Bowie. This is going to be incredible. This is going to be a life-changing first superhero showdown, I feel. It's going to be filled with magic. It is going to be incredible. This is going to be a life-changing first superhero showdown, I feel. It's going to be filled with magic. It's going to be great. Everybody's going to remember where they were when they heard this. You better believe it. This is Iron Man, presumably movie version, versus Killer Optimus Prime from Transformers 4.

Remember when he went evil for four and a half minutes? Sort of. Yeah. Okay. Now, we should also say that, generally speaking, it's the character in the prime of their life. Yes. Where do you feel Iron...

Where was Iron Man in the prime of his life? Is it Infinity War? It's got to be Infinity War, right? Okay, right, okay. Because that suit, I mean, it might not be a match for Thanos, but it's better than all the suits kind of leading up. You can get in and out of it. It can form different weapons.

That's the key. Yeah. It can form different weapons and guns. It can go into space. It can shoot lasers. It can get in and out of it. It can form different weapons. That's the key. Yeah. He can form different weapons and guns. He can go into space. He can shoot lasers. He can do all sorts of things. Yeah. As opposed to like his first suit.

Which was a pile of garbage. He'd just get jammed into it. Yeah. All the pile of garbage. I mean, the first red one. Right. Right. Or even like Iron Man 3, if he got hit, it would fall off him.

Yeah. Right. Yeah. So I think it's probably that one. I think you're, look, I think not to get, this isn't off him. Yeah. Right. Yeah. So I think it's probably that one. I think you're, look, I think not, not to get,

this isn't a debate about Iron Man suits, but I feel like it may not be his toughest suit. Like, cause it's still a prototype. Okay. Sure. But all right. Let's say, let's say it's the infinity war suit.

Well, it might also be, yeah, you might be right because that was just a suit he had on him. Yeah. When everything happened. Yes. That's kind of his,

like the suitcase suit. It's the, what's the nearest suit that I have. Yeah. oh it's on me right now yeah all right okay yeah now what was what was what is uh what was optimus prime's deal when he became evil he was evil yep he had a sword but i feel like all his tricks and abilities don't really differ from any other version of that character. As far as I can tell. Yeah, that's all right. Except for the one where he had wings for 30 seconds. I remember that one. In two.

Yeah, yeah, I remember that one. Yeah, yeah. I like this showdown because I don't know whether, do you think Optimus Prime could even get a hand on Iron Man? You know what? I think potentially because Iron Man would stand around to crow probably for a bit. Yeah, sure. And I think he'd be like, I could take a hit from this guy.

Yeah. I think he would be surprised how fast Optimus Prime is. Yeah, right. I think he would underestimate that, and Optimus Prime potentially could grab at him. Would Optimus Prime appear as a truck on the other end? Well, here's the thing. Is this a truck?

Am I fighting a truck? Because it's the movie version of Optimus Prime, he'll never transform. So it's whatever version he is in initially. He stopped transforming in Transformers 2, I believe. So, look, I think it has to be him in robot form. Because if he's a truck, it's just Iron Man fighting a truck. He thinks it's a truck, but then it's not a truck.

Oh, right. That's what I'm saying. But no, if he's appearing as Optimus Prime, he's the robot. I'll concede that I think also that that sword from memory of that terrible movie which I barely remember when he goes to hit Bumblebee yes I'm sorry Killer Optimus Prime is from Transformers 4 is not Evil Optimus Prime Killer Optimus Prime is when he's like when he screams I'll kill you I'll kill everyone I'm a bit mixed up there. Okay, right. Then I'm very familiar with this version.

Okay, cool. Because it's the one from Age of Extinction, right? Yes. Okay, right. So I remember, though, in Transformers 5, his sword, he goes to stab Bumblebee in the face and it deflects off his face shield. Do you think Optimus Prime's sword

could penetrate Iron Man's suit? Yes. Nano suit, yeah? Because none of his suits are that tough. Yeah. I think Optimus Prime's advantage is he is... Iron Man's suit, nano suit. Yeah? Because none of his suits are that tough. Yeah. I think Optimus Prime's advantage is he can operate through almost, like he's been stabbed through the chest.

Yeah, he died. Thousands of times. He can come back from the dead. He never transforms, which is a waste of energy, as we know. But Iron Man's suits are, they're like origami at thisami at this point i feel but also i think that suit in particular yeah as opposed to a lot of the suits in iron man 3 where guy pierces just pull them off him like they're tissue paper i think the only reason that suit starts to fall apart is he keeps using all the weaponry to stop thanos yeah right i think if he kept all the nanotechnology on him yep i'm not sure that it could be pierced.

He could make a shield strong enough to stop Optimus Prime. Right, okay. But that being said, I think even before he employs all that weaponry, I believe Thanos rips his helmet off. Yes, that's true. So I think it's not impregnable, right? Yeah, that's fair. Okay.

And would you say Optimus Prime has comparable strength to thanos oh i think thanos is stronger yeah uh-huh but i still think he'd have enough strength to do that i think so because he could he can tear the head off another transformer it's true and often his friends because he does it all the time yeah i i think transformers aren't made of regular metal. They're made of Transformium, obviously. Yeah, that's it. So it's a supercharged metal that he can still tear apart with his hands. Yep. Yeah.

Do you think that Iron Man would go... See, here's the thing. I think probably Iron Man could kill Optimus Prime quite easily, especially with that Infinity War suit has the big old red lasers. Remember the big old red lasers from Iron Man 2? He does the big spin and he cuts them all in half. I reckon he could very easily cut Optimus Prime in half with one of those. But would he want to kill Optimus Prime

or would he want to subdue Optimus Prime so he can steal all the technology for himself? I think he could steal it off his corpse. Then he's going for the kill? Okay, right. I think potentially he might cut him in half with those lasers and then assuming that Optimus Prime is dead, go

in to examine him. Yeah. Optimus Prime rips his head off. But Optimus Prime's weak point, it would seem, from the one time we've seen him die was stabbed through the chest yes do you think iron man could could send a swarm of nano bots yes to just fly straight through him yeah absolutely yeah has optimus prime ever fate ever pretend to be dead and then he's not i don't think he's gonna lie down and then he's like i'm not dead i don't think so no because he's too full of honour he's so much honour

or is he who knows in this version no see that's yeah I don't know I think this one is filled with rage more than honour I think this version of Optimus Prime would kill Iron Man

if he could yeah well he's killer he's killer Optimus Prime as we've established yeah and I also think that Tony Stark would kill him because he's a robot from space

Tony Stark has also dealt with robots before he's not really a space. Tony Stark has also dealt with robots before. He's not really a fan. No. And he has no problem killing a lot of them. Yeah. But I still think Tony Stark has the ingenuity and the thinking on his feet to concoct a scenario with that suit,

which can pretty much do anything against a guy who doesn't turn into a truck and is just wildly swinging a sword. He would be wildly swinging a sword or he'd be screaming, I'll kill you. You know how whenever any of these Transformers get mad, they just like spin in a circle and they just fire their gun randomly? That's not hitting anything. No. It's certainly not hitting a man

sized object like moving at the speed of sound, is it? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So I think it's Tony Stark. Yeah. I think, given that they both perceive the other one as a threat immediately, I think he would just find a weak point and cut him in half with the big lasers. Absolutely. All right. And that's the tooth.

That is the tooth. Yeah. What do you got? Let's see. Okay, this is from William Willis. Nick Fury versus Snake Plissken. Well, I patch off. Because they both have... Yeah, I patch Plissken. Well, eyepatch off.

Yeah, eyepatch is an eyepatch off. Yeah. Now, just to clarify. And George Rios has suggested make him shoot free throws. So he determines the winner that way. Because it's all about a depth perception issue, right? It is, yeah. Okay, do either of the eyepatches do anything?

Not the movie version, no. Even for Snake Plissken? No, it's just an eyepatch. Did you ever see what's under it? I don't think so. Yeah, I didn't think so either. I certainly haven't. I the movie version. Even for Snake Bliskin? No, it's just an iPad. Did you ever see what's under it? I don't think so. Yeah, I didn't think so. I certainly haven't.

I've turned away. Anytime it potentially was revealed in the movie, I would turn away because I do not want to ruin the magic. Nick Fury feels like the kind of guy

that has a lot of tricks up his sleeve. See, that's the thing. And a lot of backup. Yeah. And even that car that he's got just looks like a regular car

but it's got a gun in the roof. Again, I think we've discussed this before What's that gun for? For shooting people next to you in the car What do you think of it's role? Because it's in the Because the windows are bulletproof But the gun's inside the car So it's for shooting people who've betrayed you

But you want to really You want to really machine gun them But I'd imagine... The windows roll down? They all roll down. Like the front ones roll down. It all rolls down. Okay.

It's not a bad question. I don't disagree with you. Agreed, yeah. Do you think he'd call anybody in? You know how he's calling Captain Marvel. No, I don't think he can. I don't think there's enough time. I mean, where is she now?

Yeah, I agree. She's still not there. It's been months. It's been years. But no, he's got... Well, I mean, movie... What have we seen movie Nick Fury actually employ weapons-wise? He doesn't seem like he's that...

A rocket launcher. Yeah, but what's on him? Because the... A handgun? The comic book versions of Nick Fury have all sorts of weird stuff. It's all... And he could be a robot. Exactly.

He's almost certainly a robot. But he's got holographic things and he's got jet boots and he's got all sorts of stuff but movie nick fury's more of just a generic espionage guy yeah i'd agree have we ever seen him in a proper fist fight oh he's got that laser cutter he does have that laser cut to cut through the bottom of his car so he might have more stuff on him than we know yeah but we don't know what any of that we don't know how many beepers he has yeah he could set them up in strategic locations and set them off and pliss gonna be like what's that what is that what's plissken got guns he's got a gun yeah and a virus and the car he's got a common cold that he thinks is a killer virus is that right yeah okay all

right yeah he's just gotta go i guess this is guess this is just a gun battle, I feel. Fury's got... No, Plissken's got youth on his side. Yes, like me. I'm assuming we're not going escape from LA. LA, yeah. We're going escape from New York, Plissken, I assume. Of course, yes. We know Plissken can surf.

That's true, yes. That time he surfed away with Peter Fodner. Yep. Yeah. Hand to hand, I'd probably give it to plissken i also would yeah because i don't i've never seen i don't i don't doubt that fury could do it but i haven't seen him do it so i can't give it that's what i'm talking about i think i think that plissken is a remorseless killer and he's done it constantly and will again but like we've never even seen

fury in a fistfight in in the movie yeah in the movies at least i would i mean he's definitely scrappy he's definitely resourceful yeah he's good at shooting the wrong fighter plane with a rocket launcher but there's no fighter planes in this field is there is that the wrong rocket like the plane or does he just shoot is there two launching and i don't know yeah we never find out do we find out where's the marvel one shot about about the two guys and their best friends or their brothers and they they're like, well, time to- Do what we do. Time to nuke the city or whatever.

What happened to that guy also? Yeah. He was just doing his job. He was just doing his job. He's going to nuke New York. Yeah. Nuke New York. Say that a hundred times, Mason.

I will not. Okay. All right. But does it get down to a fist fight? No. I think it's a shootout. I think, but I also think Fury's a way better shot. I think this could end in one bullet.

Yeah. Yeah. And Plissken's not bulletproof, but Plissken has a hologram of himself. Isn't that in Escape from LA? I don't know. I think it's from Escape from LA. But he does have it. It's true.

But, but here's the thing though. How's he going to employ that? He's just going to employ that? He's just going to throw... He throws it on the ground and a hologram comes up. I guess he could wait till Fury turns his head. But he wouldn't. No, he wouldn't. That's true, yeah.

Yeah. I think, yeah, Fury would probably just shoot him. Also, and I don't know this, I think Fury's clothes are probably bulletproof. They're almost certainly bulletproof. I was just going to say that, yeah. But we don't know that, so I shouldn't really assume that. But I still think Fury's a better shot if we had access

to one of those like dawling kindersley it's a look at the marvel universe you know those big hard covers yeah yeah that points out all the stuff on there it'd probably say bulletproof so i'm gonna say it is bulletproof all right okay well then it's fury it's fury for sure and probably at basketball as well yeah again he's adept at turning his head that's right. It's Fury for sure. And probably at basketball as well. Yeah. Again, he's adept at turning his head. That's right. So it's fine. We know that. This one isn't a versus.

This is a scenario. This is from Placito on the Reddit. Cyborg versus a very stubborn man. So the idea is here. So if anybody remembers, there's a very famous cuts. Very famous. There's a cut. It's famous to us. It's famous to us.

Line and see a small moment from the justice league film where a man is a Superman looks like he throws a cop car at a cop and cyborg stops it. And then it's very calmly and casually. And some would say boringly says to the man, you should probably move. Yep. Uh, so that guy or a guy like that. Yeah. Uh, the battle consists of cyborg repeatedly suggesting that the man you should probably move yep uh so that guy or a guy like that yeah uh the battle consists of cyborg repeatedly suggesting that the man move however if the man is very the man is very comfortable where he is at that particular time right yeah would cyborg just move him no so he'd

have to convince him well there's no there's no inherent danger in this scenario is there no so it'd be it'd be rude of him to say, well, you should probably move. Are you giving it to the guy who won't move? Yeah. Yeah. It's not even a competition. Can you imagine Cyborg presenting a compelling argument? But what is the argument?

I don't think he could. No, that's what I'm saying. Yeah. I don't think there's no, I mean, if there's no incoming danger. This guy is comfortable. It's true, yeah. It doesn't even say whether this man is in a scenario where you'd be like, mate, you're holding up traffic.

Maybe they're both jogging around the outside of the football field. Right, okay. And Cyborg is faster because he's a cyborg. He's got jets. I mean, why would he need to exercise because he's a cyborg? But let's say he is. But that's the point, right? He'd be like, hey, man, you should probably move.

Yeah. And the guy would be like, no, I'm just doing my thing. I don't think the guy would be jogging. I think he'd be sitting on the track. Huh. Because he's not moving. That's true, yeah. And he's like, you should probably move.

And he's like, well, I don't really want to. Yeah, that's true. No, I think the only compelling argument would be you're in my way of jogging. And the guy would be like, but you don't need to jog. You're a cyborg. I mean. Also, go around. Just go around. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go over me. need to jog. You're a cyborg. I mean. Also go around. Just go around.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go over me. You can fly. You can fly. Yeah, exactly. Put your weird little half a mask on and go and fly. Yeah.

I'm giving it to the guy who will not move. Yeah, I agree. Yeah. What do you got? This is from Jason Delange. Okay. Draco, the dragon voiced by Sean Connery. Okay.

Versus Smaug voiced by Benedict Cumberbatch. That dragon is vicious, that Hobbit dragon. Yeah, Smaug. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like a dead set killer. Yeah. The Draco version, first of all, much smaller. Yeah, I agree.

Maybe four elephants big, maybe. That's true, yeah. Friends with Dennis Quaid, an advantage, sure. But Dennis Quaid only has a sword. Yeah. But what is... And Dennis Quaid only has a sword. Yeah. But what is... And Dennis Quaid isn't there. That's true.

You can't call on your friend Dennis Quaid because you're not magical and he's not magical. It's just the two of you, all right? I mean, he is magical. The dragon's magical. But he's not some of your friends magical. Yeah, exactly. I agree.

Well, what do they have on the field? I imagine they're both fireproof? Yeah. So that's out. To stab the dragon heart dragon, the Sean Connery one, he has to pull back his scales on his chest to expose his heart. Yes. Smaug already has an exposed heart.

That's true. But the only way you can kill Smaug is with a special iron arrow or whatever it is in that movie. I don't remember. And I imagine that dragon does not have that on him. No. All right. Slight alteration.

All the goalposts are made of that. That thing that you've just said. Okay. So it's just them trying to stab each other in the heart. With goalposts, yes. Also, if you get, his name's Draco, Sean Connery Dragon, Draco's heart or a piece of his heart,

you would live as long as the dragon. Oh. Does that change anything? Why do I know so much about dragons? I'm glad you could pull the name of the movie because I had no idea also. Well, why would Smaug want that? To live longer, but then... He's also, he's immortal, surely.

I guess so. Yeah. Yeah. They're both talkers. They are both talkers, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They're both talkers. They are both talkers. Yeah, that's true. They're both British or Scottish. Do you think dragons have a certain kinship?

I know they do. But also Smaug's a real prick, isn't he? Yeah, they do in the Dragonheart universe. Yeah, right. Also, the Sean Connery one is the last one. That's true. Smaug, I don't know whether he's the last one. But he should be.

Because he's the worst. As much as I'd like it to be Sean Connery. Yeah. What's a dragon doing with gold? What do you buy him? I don't know. It's like a bow bird. Yeah.

But I think I'd have to give it to Smaug. Because he's insane. He's like the size of a town. You know? He's huge. Yeah. And he's insane he's like the size of a town you know he's huge yeah and he is insane yeah as well but he's is could could draco get in like in his circle real quick you know what i mean i don't think so i think smalg is quicker also smalg seems to have he's more lizard like yep i think he's more kind of and like could around a dragon the way that Draco's more kind of like a dog

That's true, yeah And a lizard always beats a dog if they're the same size Rules are rules It's the rule of the jungle Komodo dragon versus a dog A Doberman Yep

Komodo dragon Komodo dragon every time Yeah, that's true Here we go This is from Cyberstein Superman wearing a kryptonite ring that he can't take off versus batman after his spine was broken by bane uh comic book version i assume i would have yes

now how effective is superman when he's depends on the version that if he's got a kryptonite ring no i think maybe this is the movies okay so this is then kryptonite's fine you could do it slowly weaken him yeah he loses yeah he has no powers but but he does in the movies he picks up the spear and he can still fly there's a bit where he's getting shot by a machine that a kryptonite machine that shoots the home planet energy yeah right okay into earth and he just flies through it or whatever that's probably true yeah i feel like it's a gradual loss of powers but what about in batman v superman where he just takes one sniff of it and he's like oh i got no powers oh yeah see that's where i was assuming it was but that's ingesting as opposed to having it on your person oh he tries to bite

it off and he swallows it well that's dumb yeah dummy a dummy. But they're dumb asses in these movies, right? He would break his teeth and he'd swallow it. Okay, let's say he's got the kryptonite ring. He's being slowly weakened. Yeah. Okay, let's say comic versions then. Okay. Well, Batman would have something in place, I'd imagine, to stop Superman.

But he has the ring on him. Yes. As we've seen from Hush. Ultimately, it's the kryptonite ring. Yeah. Is this the second kryptonite ring? Because I feel there's only one kryptonite ring. Yeah, and you don't need two.

No. Yeah, but I think it's Batman. Really? Because it's over already. I feel like the fight's already over. He just has to crawl around and wait for Superman to die from radiation poisoning. He just has to stay away from him. Right, uh-huh.

But would Superman be weakened enough from the get-go that Batman could stay out of his... I think... No, I think... Because, you know, whenever Lex Luthor breaks out the Kryptonite ring, it's always... You know, Superman will try and make a grab at him, and then Lex Luthor will just, like, swat him away

because he's so weak at this point. I think it'll be like that. I think he's got maybe like a, he's got maybe a 30 second window and then he's going down. He's at least powerless. Yeah, right, okay. But also Batman is paraplegic.

Yes, that's true, yeah. Yeah, paraplegic, yeah. Yeah, he can, yeah. But I think he's got amazing upper body strength. That's probably true. Does Bane break his back and then dump him there? I guess so. I think so throws him

down a well no I mean because he's in the football field right no they have been teleport yeah yeah okay fair enough wow just at that point yeah the ultimate of dignity in a way but

you still feel you feel pretty good because you be like well I lost that fight but I'm winning this one it's true you really go booster for I think it's Batman because I think the fights already done yeah I think again one it's true you're really go boasted for i think it's batman because i think the fight's already done yeah i think again because it's they they know they have to subdue

the other one yeah and batman's got so much like even in what i can only assume is a lot of pain he'd have a he still have a lot of gadgets on him yeah he'd have a whole bunch he got like he could clock him with a batarang and be out. Yeah. Absolutely. I think he would have to know that the Batarang... He'd have to know that the Kryptonite ring has made him weak. Yes. He'd probably tell. I'm sure he could tell. Yeah.

Normally, his skin might turn a certain shade or it's like... Yeah. Or whatever. Yeah, I think it's Batman. What else you got, Mason? Let's see. Let us see. Okay, this is from Harry Dobbs.

All right. The Avengers from. Let us see. Okay, this is from Harry Dobbs. All right. The Avengers from the movie The Avengers versus Justice League from the movie Justice League. No twists? No twists. Well, the Justice League have Superman. I was going to say, yeah. Yeah, exactly.

There's no... I think even if you just took... If you only had Superman or only Wonder Woman or only Aquaman, I think that's enough. Even only The Flash. Any of them, except for Batman, could beat all of the Avengers at once. Really? Okay.

Yes. Even The Flash? Yes. Yeah. Well, that's the thing, because the Avengers have always been more brawlers than it's been. Yeah. They're more street level than they are Justice League, who are all godlike for the most part.

I get the sense of the Avengers from the movies, that they're more like a SWAT team than gods. Oh, absolutely. But everybody on the Justice League, except for Batman, is a god. That's true. Yeah. Yeah. And Superman is stronger than the Hulk. Yes, that's right.

Yeah. We don't want to get into that, though. That video that I've got on my channel from like four years ago. Oh, it still gets some comments? Terrific. It still gets comments. Yeah. But I think the movie version of Superman

is probably stronger than the movie version of the hulk yeah i think so yeah yeah um is there any scenario where say captain captain america could beat wonder woman beat not not just you know not survive not survive uh well he's strong enough to hold back thanos for a second a second yeah that's it yeah i mean you can fight ultron for a little bit yeah that's a good question like i i feel like could say captain america knock out wonder woman i feel maybe he could maybe yeah like she's not and i i also guess it depends on how how much how much how more how much more powerful she is than a regular Amazonian. Because regular Amazonian is not bulletproof.

She is bulletproof? Because she still has to use her bracelets to deflect bullets. But if she doesn't... I don't know if she is bulletproof. I think they can kind of ping off her, but she prefers to use a bracelet instead of a shield. Look, I mean, solely as a Captain America versus Wonder Woman, if he could hold her off for long enough to clock her with his shield, I think he could knock her out, maybe.

Maybe. But if she hit him hard enough, his head would explode. She'd just have to get past the shield, basically. That's what he'd have been going for. But then again, maybe Spider-Man on a good day could trip the Flash. Right, but he's not on the team at this point. This is Avengers 1. Yeah, right.

This isn't whatever roster we're putting together. Do you think the Hulk could snatch the Flash out of the Speed Force? Yes. Yeah. So you think the Hulk could probably kill Flash out of the Speed Force? Yes. Yeah. So you think the Hulk could probably kill this version of the Flash? Oh, absolutely. Because he's not very good, is he? No.

Yeah. He's untrained and he's bloody... Tripping over his feet. He's tripping over his feet. Can't run for shit. Yeah, exactly. Terrible running style. In fact, I think Captain America could probably take him,

if I'm honest with you. I think most of them could, actually. Could take the Flash. I think Black Widow could take the Flash. I think Hawkeye could take the Flash. I think the Flash would stop long enough for any of them to take could take the flash i think black widow could take the flash i think hawker could take the flash i think the flash would stop long enough for for any of them to take him yeah okay i think the flash is out at least yeah what about cyborg do you think tony stark could out uh technology cyborg uh this is avengers tony stark as well yeah what suits he got he's got the mark 7 yeah it's pretty good it's pretty it's not bad comes in that little

torpedo container thing that's pretty good that's pretty good it's pretty good those two would be the ones who would go to each other wouldn't they I think so yeah

or Batman versus Batman versus Iron Man maybe I'd like it to be like Batman Captain America would probably be the way yeah look it's good

look it's fun to spin our wheels but I think the Justice League do take this solely because they've got Superman. Yeah. Which is why I'm objecting to Captain Marvel being the most powerful being in the unit. Because it's not even there, Mason. I know, but it's not fun.

You know what I mean? Yeah. If there's one guy who can beat everybody, you could even turn the rest of the Justice League against Superman in this scenario and have every member of the Avengers versus every member and Justice League versus Superman and it'd still beat them all. Yeah, you're right. If they have Loki's staff

and they're just slowly changing everybody. Yeah, absolutely right. Oh yeah, could Iron Man out Cyborg, Cyborg? Probably not. No, I think he could defeat him, but if Cyborg got close enough, he would just reprogram all of Iron Man's suit to fall off him embarrassingly.

And he'd be wearing his little heart underwear. Yeah, he'd be in his little heart underwear, yeah. Great. Yeah, terrific. You know what? I think also the Justice League winning this fight speaks to the power of that film and how good those characters are. I disagree.

I think you've taken absolutely the wrong message from this because it's a bad movie. We both had a fun time with it. We didn't, though. I didn't have any fun. And they've established that they are the better team than the Avengers. We did not do that. It's not. No.

That's what happened here, everybody. Powers everybody powers wise certainly not quality wise okay uh here's one it's a scenario dakota cootie says i wish this is still good dakota cootie's still good mason i agree uh xenomorph queen with a few xenomorphs get on the pre newNew Hope Death Star. So, Grand Moff Tarkin and Darth Vader are there, but no Emperor. Okay. Right. I think the only scenario where this doesn't go to the aliens is that Darth Vader would be not there. Because they would just run amok in the Death Star. Yes, it's true.

It would be a bloodbath. The people employed on the Death Star are very bad at their jobs. And there's plenty of trash compactors to have all the alien stew in there. Yeah. You know what I mean? Just gantries and pits you can just make a nest in. There'd be whole floors that probably haven't been made operational yet. Yeah.

And they could just nest in there. For days, potentially. How many people... I'm going to Google how many people are on a Death Star. I think it's something like 10,000. Yeah, right. There's varying numbers, because I once did a Kill Count video where...

Oh, yes, right, right. It's about 10,000 from memory. But also the numbers vary, because I think some people have said like 100,000 upwards of a million, but I don't think it is that many. Staff number on the crew of 265 000 as well as 50 000 gunners 600 000 troops okay yeah uh-huh yeah there's no way this goes to

the empire certainly yeah but how do you think so darth vader would presumably have to kill the alien queen before it got out of hand yeah i think you might even just leave absolutely yeah i don't think there's anybody on that he didn't come back after the end of star wars when he flew off into space he's just like no i'm just gonna keep spinning actually just gonna keep spinning by everyone yeah uh-huh yeah i don't know if there's anybody on that vessel because it is a vessel yeah that is competent enough to work out what's going on quickly enough to formulate a plan

to stop it. Also, these things, I don't know if Darth Vader's suit is acid-proof. I know it's some kind of special blastoid steel or whatever, but I don't know.

It can deflect a glancing blow from a lightsaber, but I think if he cut one in half and it rained acid on him i think he'd be in trouble see here's the thing though not a lot of him is real anymore yeah so i don't think it would concern him that much no i i agree yeah but i think if it whittled down his parts yeah then you i reckon he's got spares he definitely does but i mean i think he'd all you know what i don't think that's something we've never seen he He's like, he gets a damaged arm and he just jettisons it.

And he opens up like the boot of his car and he's got another, he's got another couple of arms in there. He pops the boot of the car or the TIE fighter or whatever. And he's, he's like, I've only got left arms. I've used all my right arms. Now I've got two left arms. This is a nightmare. I actually don't think he'd leave.

Yep. Because in the Darth Vader comic, which is currently running, which is about this time period, a bit before, he's suicidal. He'll run into scenarios where he's thoroughly unprepared, but he's just brute force and strength. Yep. If he's just throwing the force, he could probably walk to the alien queen. Yeah.

Right. Yeah. That's true. Cause they also don't understand what's happening. I don't know what's going on. Like they couldn't, they can figure out if like, Oh,

there's troops going this way or whatever, but I don't think they could be like, what's this invisible force emanating from me. Also, here's the thing though. Here's a question. Uh, let's say you cut off an alien limb with a lightsaber.

Yeah. What happens? It just kind of sprays a bit of blood. Maybe it doesn't, though. What do you mean? Oh, does it seal? Does it cauterize the limb? Oh, yeah, right.

Because if every time somebody's had their arm cut off in a bloody Star Wars movie, they just flail this dry stump around. You know what I mean? That's true, yeah. Although it seals the wound, I'm pretty sure. So I reckon he could go through a lot of them. You're not wrong. Could he give some spare lightsabers to various people? don't think i don't think he would no i think he

has more uh-huh but i don't think he would he's got a whole lot of sith stuff that he kind of hangs on to but yeah i don't think he'd he'd probably taken a group of crack commandos with him yep that he doesn't care for is there anybody else is there anybody else famous on the death star currently this would be this is death star one so priest star is there anybody else famous on the Death Star currently? This is Death Star 1. So pre-Star... Is there anybody in the Expanded Universe who was on that Death Star then they got off before it blew up? In the Expanded Universe, I'm not really sure.

Most of them are just generals and mobs and whatever. He does have a crew of Inquisitors. So he might have... That's in canon. So he might have one of them there, depending on the day. But I don't think there's anybody else other than the emperor on his side that would make any difference that would help him at all yeah yeah i think without him that place is fucked but with him i think he'd

he'd turn the tide yeah right i think that would be over in a day if he wasn't there yeah right yeah because it and also i guess it depends on how long it takes to grow an alien. It's a few hours, right? Various sources, but yeah, it seems to be not that long. Yeah, right. Maybe 12 hours, maybe, but sometimes it seems to be less. Yeah. Like a lot less.

But man, that's exactly, those, bringing a team of, they're not even, they're worse shots than the Colonial Marines. And I don't even know that a laser would even, could it even kill an alien? How about this? Stun mode. Didn't think about stun mode, did you? I don't think. No, I wouldn't. I'm just kidding.

But even if it did, I don't. What are you stunning them and then what? I don't know. Because you'd have to jettison them because you can't then stun. You can't do that thing in the garbage chute. But you're mashing up on a space station. Yep.

You're mashing up creatures filled with acid. Yep. So you kind of have to stun them and then jettison them. Yeah, that's true. And I don't think you'd be able to do that at speed. That's true. Fast enough. Yeah.

Yeah. So you think Darth Vader could kill the alien? I think he would walk it in. Yeah. Yeah, right. Okay. I don't think it would be any problem at all. Interesting.

Because if you look at also on like Geonosis from Attack of the Clones. And even he's gone back as Darth Vader in the comics. There's a whole lot of alien bugs in that. And he's just tearing through them. Yeah, right. Yeah. All right. What else you got?

Keith Williams wants to know the Ghostbusters from 1984. The original Ghostbusters 1 versus Force Ghosts, Yoda, Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan and Anakin. Okay. So the only thing we know Force Ghost can do is summon lightning. They can do that. Okay. Who does that?

Yoda in The Last Jedi. Does he? Yeah, he burns down a tree with it. Oh, I guess he does. Yeah, all right. Good point. And they can also appear as- So he doesn't shoot lightning.

He calls it down from the sky, I guess. Yeah, I think so. But also, I think that can also be interpreted as timing yeah that's true yeah it's portentous isn't it

but I think he seemed to have summoned it to have the energy to summon it do you think force ghosts can be pulled

into a I like this one can be pulled into the toaster pretty good right yeah I think so if they're ghosts

you're saying because maybe they're from a different spiritual realm than ghostbusters ghosts yeah I say If they're ghosts. You're saying because maybe they're from a different spiritual realm than Ghostbusters ghosts. Yeah. I say no. They're just as gross as regular Ghostbusters ghosts. Covered in goo.

Exactly. They go to the hotel and Yoda's just there at the food cart just eating cakes and they're all falling at his Ghostbusters. But can the Ghostbusters even see them? I don't know. Can they be seen in the movies Ghostbusters even see them? I don't know. Can they be seen in the movies? I actually don't know. We don't know. Right.

It's the only kind of hint that they can't be seen is at the end of Return of the Jedi when he shows up, they all show up and they're like, hey Luke, it's us, all your mates and your dad. And Luke's looking at them and it appears as if no one else can see him. Well, here's the thing. The Ghostbusters have the PKE meter. Well, that's looking at them. And it appears as if no one else can see them. Well, here's the thing. The Ghostbusters have the PKE meter. Well, that's the other thing. So I imagine Egon would come in real close.

Probably Egon or Rey. Egon's coming in hot. Yeah, they would come in hot. They'd have the PKE thing. And I think they'd be able to get close to the... They'd get close to where the Force ghosts are. What they'd have to do, I think, is have to... You know, there's that chalk.

You know, there's some chalk at the side of the... Sure, yeah. The side of the bloody stadium. They'd have to you know there's that chalk you know there's some chalk at the side of the side of the bloody the the side of the bloody stadium they have to do some flinging and make those ghosts visible i guess if that even works i don't know i don't know because also the ghost busters are terrible at ghostbusting ghostbusting obviously especially ghostbusters one but they're on you know what the peak of their powers yeah so i'd say this is at the end of Ghostbusters 1. Okay. So at this point, they have moved from bold scientific investigators to glorified roach hunters. Right.

They're just blue collar, just Joes, busts and ghosts every day. So I think they know what they're doing. I think also the Force Ghost ghosts can disappear whenever they want right here elsewhere like going to a different realm right i don't know if the ghost buster ghosts can do that they seem to have to run through a wall it's true yeah uh-huh yeah i think for the purposes of this we have to say that they're trapped okay on the field all right fair enough because otherwise this is a very short fight you don't think yoda's just hitting them with lightning? Would he, though, even? I don't know if he would.

No, because I think... Well, see, that's the thing about Jedi. They'd be able to tell that these guys are not bad guys, right? Yeah. But there's no way the Ghostbusters would be able to tell that these aren't evil ghosts. Yeah, no. They capture anybody. They capture...

They don't care. They just capture them and study them. But at least there wouldn't be. They capture... They don't care. They just capture them and study them. But at least there's... There wouldn't be any deaths here, I don't think. No. Because they just put them in that facility. They'd put them in the storage facility. And then they'd just eventually get out.

That's true, yeah. For revenge. For revenge, exactly. Them and the Scolari brothers. The Scolari brothers... It doesn't matter. Were they the guys in the courtroom? In the courtroom.

Yeah, I remember, yeah. Yeah, I mean, what else? There's nothing else the Force ghosts can do, I don't think. No. Can they affect, can they use the Force? We don't know. Yeah. I would say probably, but we don't know.

Yeah. In Legends, I think sometimes they can shoot lightning or whatever. Okay. I know that there was going to be a scene in the original Return of the Jedi where Obi-Wan and Yoda's ghost helped Luke fight the Emperor or something. Right, okay. But that didn't end up happening. Okay.

Could they potentially, could they move, say, a set of goalposts? Oh, onto them? Yeah. Yeah, I think so. Could they, could they, I'm suggesting a scenario in which Rey and Egon go in to check out some PKA readings. Sure. And then the Force ghosts clock Winston and Bill Murray which Ray and Egon go in to check out some PKA readings. Sure.

And then the Force Ghosts clock Winston and Bill Murray with the goalposts on the other side of the field. Because they're staying back. They're like, we're safe back here. We don't want to get into any of this. We're the most working Joe of working Joes. Yes, yes. And they get clocked with the goalposts and they're down. Do you think the two remaining could stop the Force Ghosts?

No, because Ray's a terrible shot. Yep. Maybe they'd cross the streams and die. They could cross the streams and die. Look, I think, assuming they, I don't know, assuming they can see each other, I think it's a pretty short fight because it's just four streams of proton pack lasers

and then the toaster comes out out and i think they're in you know what i mean okay yeah i think it's the ghostbusters on this one i accept unless unless people out there have information to prove otherwise which is fine but we don't want to hear it do not send it in i'd love to hear mason's response to i kind of would actually yeah i kind of if if there's some if you have this is the one exception if you have some definitive evidence that the the the the force ghost can do stuff none of this legend shit no but official canon yeah modern day stuff i'm including some video games if they're canon yep let it let me know all right fair enough what about this this is from monkey 64285. Oh, yes. An average man with a thousand years of prep time versus Batman with none.

Oh. Well, I guess the question, because it's an issue of standard. What's the standard equipment? For an average man. What's the standard equipment for an average man? With a thousand years of prep time. So this is a thousand years of prep time. He knows he's going to

fight Batman apparently on a football field oh right but no I think the question is they've both arrived and the man

has had a thousand years to prepare for a battle with Batman yes so he could presumably have learned karate for a thousand years yeah like martial arts

he could have gadgets he could have gadgets he could have time travel yep he could shoot lightning he could have magic yep yeah also it also no here's the thing though if he's an average man he's not a superhero this is an average man in our universe i think okay so the question i feel is are you any better at karate after a thousand years than you are after say say, 20 years? You know what I mean? Probably not.

No. Also, you're an average man. You remain in the prime of your life. Yes. So you're not going to get any older. So that's a bonus. Yeah. What's your preparation for fighting Batman in terms of knowledge?

Are you reading Batman comics? Good question. Are you watching all the films? Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's the most effective weapon that you would bring to defeat Batman? Telling him your mother's name is Martha. Obviously is number one. That's if you're fighting that version of Batman. Yeah, that's true.

I guess if you don't know which version of Batman. But you would for a thousand years, right? Or would you just be ready for all Batmans? I'm going to say that this is someone in our universe. They don't know which Batman they're going to be fighting. So they have to prepare for every eventuality. Do you think it's like when you open a test and you're like, oh, thank God, I know all the questions I studied for this.

So if Adam West Batman, you'd be like, okay, this is best case scenario. Yeah, exactly. This is the one that I wanted. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What I'll do is I'll ask him the best way to cross the road safely. And as he's going on about that I'll stab him in the neck you know

also does the average man want to kill Batman yeah I feel the average man would have to would have to because otherwise what are you going to do

but yeah and also I think it should be it's any version of regular Batman so it's not like vampire Batman or anything like that

or communist Batman Batman of the future or whatever no it's a like vampire batman yeah or anything like that or communist batman of the future no it's a regular batman but any anyone from like the the 1930s serial one to like ben affleck yeah any any of those ones comic book one it's fine yeah um i think comic book batman could not be beaten by a man with a thousand years of experience i kind of agree because if you look at say ray shalghul or Ra's al Ghul, whatever you say, he has that. He literally has that.

That's true. And he still can't do it. And he's got magic. And he's got magic. Yeah. And he can't do it. He knows Batman inside out. Ooh.

Yeah. Because, like, again, if you're the real world guy, what do you got? You got a gun. Batman's bulletproof for the most part. Yeah. Except Adam West Batman. Yeah.

Again, can be very easily. You're crossing your fingers for that, but it's not a guarantee. That's bulletproof for the most part. Yeah. Except Adam West Batman. Yeah. Again, can be very easily- I mean, you're crossing your fingers for that, but it's not a guarantee. That's true, yes. Yeah. What do you got? A rocket? You found a rocket launcher? He's probably prepared for that.

I reckon Batman could dodge a rocket. Definitely. Yeah. Yeah. Also, the version, the Ben Affleck one, that cape is like fireproof. So even if it went off near him he'd be fine he'd be fine yeah um could you defeat him psychologically in what way um i don't know something to do with his parents you know i don't think there's enough time on

that field to set up a scenario where he can break his mind yeah maybe if you lure him into a weird maze yeah with pictures of his parents and people that he's let down. Yeah. But you, you can't have that on you. No, that's true. I mean, you could tell him about it, but he'd be like, no, I know I, it torments me literally every day.

It's just background noise at this point. Really? I should see a specialist about it, but I don't, I just spend millions of dollars on, on weird Batman vehicles, and I punch people individually, which I'm going to do with you. And you're in a net now. Exactly, yeah. I got you in a net.

You couldn't get Batman in a net? I don't think so. Not a net that he could cut himself out of. Also, in what real-world weapon net could actually hold Batman? Yeah, right? There's not a real-world net gun that could stop Batman. No, that's true. Yeah.

Yeah, because he's got the blades. He's got the blades. That's what I'm saying. He's got the blades and probably another knife on his belt. Probably a boot knife. You know, I think the only way you could defeat him is if you turned up with a nuclear weapon and just set it off. It's true.

Yeah. I mean, you'd go down. Yeah. But you'd win. But here's the thing. If you've been around for a thousand years it depends what your mindset has become

after a thousand years because if after a thousand years you're like just let this be over with you just walk up to Batman and be like can you please and Batman would clock you

and you'd go down and then you'd wake up in your normal office job again I guess but that's not what you're there for but that's exactly right but it also depends on what happens afterwards you again, I guess. But that's not what you're there for. But that's exactly right.

But it also depends on what happens afterwards, you know? So I guess if you're like, well, now I'm going to live forever in jail, maybe you would set off the nuclear bomb. Yeah. Yeah. And no timer. Because if you put a timer on it, he'll definitely stop it. Yeah, he's got some sort of electronic,

he's got an electromagnetic pulse or something. You know how those work. I know exactly how they work i know exactly how that works it generates electric and it disrupts electrical signals you know yes it works so i think it's possible but i think whatever you do it has to be implemented in less than a second and it has to kill him immediately yes and probably you whether that be a bomb or even a smaller bomb. It doesn't have to be a nuclear bomb. It can just be, I don't know, a pretty big bomb. Hostages. So he can take hostages with you.

You've got a thousand years to prepare. You can throw anything in. So like a wall of hostages in front of you? Yes. That he has to save? I don't know. Have they got neck bombs? Probably, yeah.

See, that's the thing. If you have a thousand years to prepare, you'd have to go, you'd have to cycle through every supervillain plan there is. Because it's not like also Batman hasn't been defeated. That's true. So if you're facing the optimum version of Batman, whatever scenario you throw at him that you've read about or seen, he's experienced that. Probably.

So you've got to take that and also build on it so he's not expecting it. Yeah, yeah. Uh-huh. You know what? I'd actually love to hear if people have a scenario that they could concoct to defeat Batman. And nothing too weird. Nothing too weird or gross, all right? Keep it PG.

This is an Adam West Batman we're often dealing with, all right? So keep it... Do it for West. Do it for West. Keep it clean, all right? Yeah. But it's probably for West. Do it for West. Keep it clean, all right? Yeah. But it's probably Batman. It's still probably Batman.

Okay, this one, this is from Jonathan Bartow. This one takes place outside of the football field. Okay. So it's one teleporter, jumper rules, versus one shapeshifter. They've never seen each other before. They have to hunt each other around the world who comes out on top shapeshifter jumper yeah so you oh man okay uh shapeshifter would the shapeshifter hunt jumper they're both hunting each other that's what i mean like with the shapeshifter wait Because the jumper can be literally anywhere.

So is it worth hunting jumper down? Because they can just leave immediately. Yeah. Or is it better to lie in wait somewhere? Good question. We'll see. It's almost like we're debating this right now. Maybe it is.

It's almost like we're figuring out tactics as this happens. Well, that's the thing. Because you could, I guess you could, I guess we'd define what should, so jumper rules. Yeah. You can teleport to anywhere you've seen. Yes.

But that can include a photograph. But you had, you have to have been there. Yeah, right. You can't go anywhere you haven't been. Is that the rule? That's the rule. And the photographs are just a reminder of it. Okay, right, cool.

Yeah, and that's how it works. Great. Can you take people with you? You can. Okay, great. Because you can trap Samuel that's how it works. Great. Can you take people with you? Yes. Okay, great. Because you can trap Samuel L. Jackson in a cave. In a cave.

On the side of a mountain. And then he respects you. But dies there. Then he dies. Okay, but what are our shapeshifter rules? Can they become anything or just any one? What does it say? Just says shapeshifter.

I guess we've got to define it. We've got to define a shapeshifter. That's what I'm talking about, yeah. Shapeshifters, to me me generally can only take the shape of something they're vaguely shaped like okay right so let's saying let's say let's say broad anything of the same oh is that too broad i know i think if you're human shaped you can be human humans okay right i don't think you can be like a goat or a chair or okay you know a car okay so let's let's just say then teleporter jumper rules shapeshifter you can become any out any person yeah uh you can be live tyler you can be live tyler if you want you can be steve tyler oh nice

any of the tylers wow yeah do you have to have been in a room with them or can you just be like that looks i think you can look at a photo and okay turn and be them yeah okay right so what what would you let's say you're the shapeshifter what would your strategy be i would find out about them yeah and i would turn into one of their close relatives and then wait yeah because so what how when the guy when a jumper jumps uh how long does that take it's just like like, poof, like that? Okay, so. Not even a second. Yeah, right. Okay.

Yeah, because you'd kind of have to be. How would you find out? I mean, being a shapeshifter doesn't mean you're a great detective. That's true. And being jumper doesn't mean that you can detect a shapeshifter. That's true, yeah. You know, you'd always be on guard because you would never know who is a shapeshifter. Yep.

I guess you'd have a series, if it was me, I'd have a series of questions in place that only you and that person would know. You would run by them every time. But what if you're running them by a shapeshifter because they've already replaced your friend? Well, then they'd just attack you immediately, wouldn't they? No, because then you'd tell you, then you'd jump her away.

What you'd do is you'd replace one of their friends instantly and then you'd be like, hey, you know what we should do? You should you'd replace one of their friends instantly and then you'd be like hey you know what we should do you should give me a series of questions that only we would know

the answer to and then you would wait five years and then when you successfully answer the questions then you'd stab them

you'd go away for a boys trip exactly that's right yeah now that I've answered your questions let's sink some tins

up at the bloody lake house yeah and then i'll stab you yeah yeah wait ignore that last part i think i think you're right yeah i think infiltrate would be smarter than try and trick them on the spot and make a move immediately yeah i think it's better to play the long game yeah right yeah if you want to win i mean both these people would go mad though yes because you'd never you never know where they're gonna be exactly and you'd also never know like you might again if you can shapeshift you might be able to shapeshift to anybody but maybe they've been following you for ages and they they could they could jump out they could jump out at any point and again stab

you in the neck i think if the shapeshifter knew who you were... No, sorry. If the jumper knew who you were... Yep. The victory is... It's done. The victory... Like, if they see you and they know who you are, they can jump behind you and break your

neck immediately. Yeah, right. So, I think it'd be up to the shapeshifter to evade long enough to lay in wait and set a trap. Yeah, right, right. Uh-huh. Yeah. Also, I'm presuming they can just shapeshift for as long as they need to.

Yeah, I'd say so. Like they can hold a face for five years. Yeah, right, right, right. Exactly. Yeah. This feels very strongly like it's going to end up with them both marrying each other and not knowing and then being aware of it years later and being like, oh, no, you're the guy I was supposed to kill.

But we're in love. We're in love. So mutual suicide pact is what you're saying? I guess so, yeah. Oh. Oh, yeah. I like that one. It's a good one, right?

Should we do one more each? Yeah, let's do one more each. What do you got? Let's see. Or I can do one. Yeah, please. This is a good one to end on. For my side of things, Lagare Price says,

Meso's avatar versus mr sunday movies avatar infinity gauntlet yeah exactly and that would be it yep yep but do i want to wreck my beautiful arm you know what i mean i don't think i'm a lefty but i don't think you'd use it all at once you just use any you just shoot the laser i guess i just Out of any of them. Yeah, I guess so. I'd use one of the lasers. Yeah. No, it would be you. Let me find one.

Okay. Let's see. I can do one while you're looking. Please, if you could. What about Meat Loaf says, the thing versus it. Right. Okay. That's pretty good.

Yeah. Okay. Would it be good. Yeah. Okay. Would it be a football field scenario? I think it would be initially, but I think it would extend. It would go. Yeah, right. How about will you see? Well, see, that's the thing, because there's not a lot for either of them to work with.

No. On a football field. We might have to broaden this out. Let's say it's at an arctic research facility in the middle of a small new england town okay that's fair how's that sound that's fair it's good right okay yeah okay so the cold is an advantage to the thing and he has that in this scenario yes could the could it psychologically terrify the thing because i don't think i don't think it could i don't think it has any concept I don't think it could. I don't think it could.

I don't think it has any concept of fear. It has survival instincts, but that is separate than fear. That's true. Because remember when the kids figured out that if you just don't be afraid of the clown, you could just beat him to death with a baseball bat? Yes, I do remember that.

I think the thing would just, would know that, would figure that out pretty early on but what but the thing is the the it is also busy see that's the thing like it's not the kids were also prepared prepared for an actual fight with the thing because the thing can sorry it rather yeah like it can bite your arm off yes but how much can it bite off of the thing like if you bite off the thing's arm yeah the arm turns into spiders in your throat. And it's inside you.

Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Yes. It can become anything it would seem. Also, the way that it was defeated in the original telemovie and book, it's a giant spider, alien spider. Yeah. And they just kind of stab it to death. Yes. And then one of the losers club tumbles through a parallel dimension

with it and they have a mind battle and defeats it do you think the thing is capable of that do you think the do you think the thing could thoroughly trounce it and then psychologically defeat it in a while spinning through another dimension really no really, no. But I don't also think that it could kill the thing. I think it could, though. But when does it... What can it do? I think this is a close race. I mean, it could light it on fire, I guess.

Yeah. Because it knows the thing that you're afraid of and your weaknesses. I guess you don't really need to make it afraid. You just need to light it on fire. It's true yeah All of it And there's a lot of it

Yeah And it's anybody But also do you think it would know I think it would know It wouldn't be fooled by a person pretending to be the thing Would it? Ah Because it can kind of know your thoughts

It knows your thoughts So if the thing doesn't have any thoughts Yeah Does the thing have thoughts? I believe so Well it can hold the conversation It can replicate a person Yeah right Where other people who know that person don't know i assume that it can take on the memories of a person so maybe it can't we don't really know a

lot about the thing yeah there's a lot we don't know that's true i assume that it can take on the personality of a person and maybe that uh it cannot tell maybe the thing in it are related they might be yeah weird aliens yeah like we think of we think of it as like a as like a magic ghost thing but it's really a weird alien yeah uh well so's it really because it arrives to earth in a spaceship yeah from another dimension or something yeah right So it's an interdimensional alien creature. Let's say you set some of the thing on fire. Yeah. Will the rest of it escape? Yeah, probably.

You kind of have to kill every molecule of the thing. Exactly, yeah. Down to molecular level. So I guess my question, because I think it could probably take the thing in a... Like if the thing was in human form, it'd probably rip its arms and legs off or whatever. But then I think the thing would escape again. Does it regenerate?

Yes. Yeah. A lot. All the time. And it can be everybody. Yeah. It doesn't have to... It's not restricted to being one person.

Where I feel like it is limited in its scope in terms of what it can turn to at one time. It's mostly a clown. It's mostly a clown doing that dance. Head stay still. But you never see 50 of them. No, that's true, yeah. It's always one.

Yeah. And I think maybe, I don't even know if the thing would need to have a psychological mind battle. I think it could probably duplicate itself enough to beat it to death. Yeah, well, let's because in the last It movie, what happens to It? They just beat it up and then where does it go? And then it goes into hibernation.

Down in a well? Yeah, like down in the earth. I would consider that a victory. Okay. Like in this instance, I would say that's the victory, if the thing could do that. And then get it in another 30 years. Get another 30 years. Yeah. Once the thing has eaten everybody else in the town

I guess yeah what fun that is fun yeah one more if I can find one more I mean there's heaps actually this is from

Daniel Roy each of the live action Batman actors in their on set Batman costumes a battle of grown men in tight restricted leather costumes

man well I think Keaton's out. Yeah, because he famously hated that costume and it was very difficult. He'd be like a turtle. You kick him over, he's not getting out. Apparently the biggest challenge on that set was getting out of the Batmobile and looking cool doing so.

Adam West, huge advantage. Because that's silky costume yeah it's just all silk and nylon oh and it's like they're all in armor but it's not actual armor that's true yeah but also you have to i think you also have to think of the mindset of each of the actors okay sure yeah um bail seems insane yeah i think it might go to bail really quickly. And he can turn his head. That suit's got a lot of fluidity in it. Yeah, uh-huh. Though I think the other ones aren't afforded.

No, where you have to turn your entire body. There's a lot of big muscles on that Affleck suit. Yeah, I think it comes down to Adam West versus Christian Bale in this situation. Just to clarify, I think Affleck's suit is too weighed down with fake muscles. Yeah, right. I don't think that would be helpful at all. But he gets his tyre. He gets his tyre on a rope.

Okay. He gets to bring that in. But what does he do with it? Nothing. It's real heavy. He flips it a couple of times and passes it out. Yeah, and he gives up. Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, I think it's Adam West. I think it comes down to Adam West versus Christian Bale. We're also talking Kilmer Clooney, but I think we could probably... Because they're essentially the Burton suits where you can't turn the head. And they're just like a plastic that you're kind of stuck in. And I think they would also... I think of those two, I think Kilmer has a bigger killer instinct. I think Clooney would walk away.

Clooney would apologize and walk away. Do you think Adam West, though, could beat Bale? I don't think he's physically fit enough to do it. I reckon he was at the time. Bale was pretty ripped and big. I mean, that doesn't necessarily translate into a fighter. But at the very least, Christian Bale has some martial arts training that I assume... Real martial arts or Hollywood martial arts.

But that Adam West doesn't. Right. At all. I reckon Adam West could just clock him real hard. Like I think it would, I think it's one of those ones, you know, when you see two actual people scrap in a fight and it's just flailing and whatever. It would definitely go down like that. I think, yeah, it would definitely be that.

I think it's more who gets in first. Yeah, right, okay. And I think maybe Bale would have some sort of hold, probably have like a rear choke or whatever. Or a Krav Maga elbow. Yeah, exactly. But I think Adam West would just be like, he's a pretty big guy.

He's a big guy, yeah. Or he was. What accent is Bale doing? American. He's in character. So he's fooled Adam West into thinking he's a fellow countryman. Adam West lets his guard down,

then he gets choked. Do you think that Bale would break character from doing the Batman voice? Or he'd just be doing it? No, he'd be doing the voice. He's in the suit, so he's doing the voice, right?

I think maybe that intensity would carry across. Okay. So it is Bale? I think it's Bale, yeah. Okay, fair enough. I think that'll do it. Man, that flew past. It did. Yeah, we've got a whole. I think it's Bale, yeah. Okay, fair enough. Yeah, yeah. All right, I think that'll do it. Man, that flew past.

It did. Yeah, we've got a whole bunch left. But we're well into the episode. We'll do another one soon enough. In another two years or whenever we do the last one. In another two years. Hopefully do it less than then. But people actually do have any of these scenarios and they're actually like, hey, I think this

would be interesting. And it might go like this. I wouldn't actually mind hearing it. I wouldn't actually mind hearing it. Yeah. That would be pretty sweet. Yeah. That would be pretty sweet. Yeah. I'd preface it by saying,

I know you guys are right, but here's an alternate take, which is wrong. Yeah. And then explain your theory, if you could. That's right, yeah. All right, you know what time it is?

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Okay Michael Flack says Hey Mr. No Movies and Wikipedia Brown Have you seen The Good Place? Recommend it to everyone and the new season takes place in your exotic land of Australia. I'd love to hear you discuss it on Weekly Planet Pod.

Well, look, I have not seen it yet. I have. But apparently the Australian accents are atrocious. Disagree. Some are better than others. A lot of them are real. Okay. Yeah.

But even the fake ones are not terrible. Okay, cool. I've heard much worse. Nice. I think real. Okay. Yeah. But even the fake ones are not terrible. Okay, cool. I've heard much worse. Nice. I think they're okay. Yeah. There's one episode, I think, a week for the next 10 or however long. Nice.

Is it 12? 10 or 12 they do in each season. Who knows? Are you looking forward to getting back to that show, though? Yeah. It's a great show. It's a good show. Yeah, yeah.

Do you remember how the last one ended and what they're doing in this season? I won't spoil it, actually, for people who haven't seen it. Yeah, don't spoil it. Don't spoil it. I won't spoil it, actually, for people who haven't seen it. Yeah, don't spoil it. Don't spoil it. Don't spoil it. You've never seen The Good Place. Kristen Bell plays a woman who ends up in The Good Place, heaven, but she was a bad person on Earth, so what's she doing there?

That's the whole thing. What was she doing? And watch the season, and if you're like, man, the thing about sitcoms is they get a bit stale after a while. This one does not. No. Yeah. Just when you think it's going to get stale you know what i've been watching you've been watching reading uh

doomsday clock had another issue yeah right how many issues you're behind now all of them like i think i think i read like three or four cool yeah uh what are we up to it answers some five maybe okay well i'm not that far behind it answered some questions but there was also extra questions and also a lot of stuff I'm like who are any of these people again is it

and it's because it's so long between issues yeah because it was going to be one a month for a while okay was that the plan surely I don't know

I think it was I feel confident that they were like just like the original Watchmen we're going to do one a year we're going to do one a year we're going to do one a month

and then it's going to after a year we're going to do one a month and then after a year it's going to be the most amazing classic bloody series you've ever read you'll love it you put it on your shelf next to Watchmen because it's so good and then they were like no we'll get one out when we get one out

so has it raised more questions than it answered it has a few questions yeah which I won't get into because you haven't read it. And I don't want to spoil it for people who haven't. Well, I mean, this has been another episode of, what do we call it? Watchman Watch? Watchman Watch, yeah. I think I really, I need to read it all together.

It's too far apart. And I don't think it's as good as the original Watchmen. Of course it's not. But at this point, yeah,'t think it's as good as the original watchman of course it's not but at this point yeah i i can't feel like i can't get a kind of a grasp on what i think earlier earlier when we when we talked about it in the previous episode of watchman watch uh when i was still on board with watchman watch i think i did say that some of the characters the new characters really felt like they yep uh belong in the watchman universe that is still having i was gonna say having read a few more issues,

you're still like, yeah, this jives with that universe. I'm still not 100% sure, and we've talked about this also, that they needed to bring in all the other DC characters. No. Oh, that's right. I forgot. There's DC characters in this. Yeah.

But apparently the finale is going to be Superman is going to be hanging out with this guy, and they're going to have a big old chat, and it's going to change the way we look at the world, you know? I hope so. Me too. It probably won't no i'd have definitely won't but you know what it's time for is it time for a coughing fit from you yeah huh now that i don't have a theme for that here's here's the letters thing it's coming up i know Fade in Yep, fade in I respect you mixing it up With the fade in Yeah, fade in Fade in was good, right?

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I'm enjoying my youth. And what I did in my youth was just read Facebook groups endlessly ad nauseum. And who says youth is wasted on the youth? That's true. Oh, good on him. Yeah. This is from A. Patrick on Twitter. Cool.

As people who report on these things, do you guys ever feel we'll be privy, sorry, feel like we're privy to too much information coming off movie sets? Do you think it'd be better if movie sets had a little more privacy and we didn't get reports, set picks every five minutes, more surprises upon release? Absolutely, yes. Yes. Thank you. This reminds me of when justice league was being filmed

and they sent people down immediately to do reports on it and this was a year before well every year before it came out and then we got a trailer and then we waited 15 months or whatever and it was already weird like and there's where these guys are in and there's gonna be a vehicle that's like a spider in it and whatever and yeah and then that movie turned it out look it turned out better than we all thought it would and all everyone here had fun with it no i didn't i didn't have any fun with this stop doing that yeah i don't know no i think it's fun um specifically i think the bit we're doing is fun but the movie itself is not fun okay don't try and spin that i nearly got you yeah nearly bloody bloody got. Yeah, I don't know because...

Some movies do go out of their way to hide stuff. Yeah, right. Like a lot of Marvel films and Star Wars or whatever. But other films are just like, here's everything you'll ever need to know. And I understand that they need a bit of sizzle. Yeah. But I don't want to see any of that. When you go into Robin Hood Origins, you don't want to know what Jamie Foxx is up to.

You want to find out on the day. Yeah. Is that right? Exactly right. You're not reading any set reports? Don't want to read any set reports. Do you read set reports or anything like that? No.

I mean, but the thing is, even if you don't, you get the headline. That's true, yeah. Someone so said this. It's always like, you'll never guess what yellow-wearing villain of Greenland is going to appear in the new Greenland. I'm like, well, who else is it going to be? Who was it? It's the Whizzer.

Ah, great. It's a Marvel character. It's not the Whizzer. Yeah. I mean, also, aside from this, you've got people endlessly speculating about trailers. Like us. You can never escape it where it goes. That's true, yeah.

I've talked about this. I want to pick a Star Wars movie and watch nothing. Yeah, right. And maybe also I could do with a Marvel movie. One's coming out and I just don't look at anything. And I wonder if that would sway. Go into the theater. Don't look at anything.

Never. Face the opposite way. Yeah. Yeah. But I wonder, like, say, would I have enjoyed Ant-Man and the Wasp more if I'd seen nothing of that film? Because by the time I'm in, I'm like, well, I saw the bit when he was big and he rode a truck like a scooter.

That's true. Yeah. I saw that he got he rode a truck like a scooter. That's true, yeah. I saw that he got his wife out of a drinking zone. That's true, yeah. What was that about? Yeah, right? He did it. But yeah, I think Marvel are very good. They're way better than a lot of other people.

But I think that's also a function of, often in those movies, especially something like Infinity War, there's so much happening in those movies that they can just go, here's three scenes from the movie. Yeah. Here's some secrets and here's whatever. And we know that there's 10 more scenes that are surprising. Yeah. And it's movies that, especially comic book movies, that really only have one or two big action set pieces. And they have to show them for the sizzle, and then we go in and we're not surprised at all.

And then it's Age of Ultron. Yeah. So what I'm saying is every movie should be Transformers-style, non-stop action, start to finish. Then we never know where the action's going to take place. That's true, yes. Or if it will at all. That sounds great.

Mm-hmm, yeah. More secrets. More secrets, please. I think they should just have also just cleverer marketing campaigns where the material that you're promoting it with is clearly not in the film but gets the hype for it. Yeah, right. I think a really good example of that is the Terminator 2 trailer,

which is just Arnold on a conveyor belt and he comes off and you're like, he's back. Yeah, totally. But how do you do that for a new movie? Have we had a discussion where we kind of would prefer if just one day they're like, hey, new Star Wars movie's out. Yes. Or like, here's the new Marvel movie.

Probably. Surprise. Yeah. I think, and I feel at this point, I feel Marvel could do it. Probably, yeah. Yeah. Like they could just be like,

Avengers 4 is out. P.S. Here it is. I don't know, maybe you could do it on something like that, that size. Yep. But maybe you could do it on, maybe you that size yep but maybe you could do it on

maybe you could even do it on like yeah could you secretly film two at once yeah right and then yeah I don't know and we'll never know we'll never know

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It's really good. Yeah. So it's a crime movie, not a murder, it's a mystery movie rather. And John Cho's daughter goes missing and he has to find her, but we only see it through various stuff on his computer.

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