The Weekly Planet - 255 Venom is...

Episode Date: October 8, 2018

Visit https://www.harrys.com/weeklyplanet for a free trial set. (of razors!)Visit https://www.tryprimechannels.com/theweeklyplanet for a free trialWhat an exciting week for Spider-man spin-off movies not set in the Spider-man universe, specifically Venom. We get into that as well as trailers for Star Trek Discovery, Daredevil, The Boys, Mortal Engines and Aquaman. Plus news on Avengers 4, Titans, Hellboy,Chris Evans quitting as Captain America, Spider-man Homecoming an Mysterio plus The Mandalorian. Because of Star Wars news. Thanks for listening!Aquaman Trailer Breakdown: https://t.co/5oyRii5lXn0:00 The start of the show3:24 Star Trek Discovery S2 trailer7:00 Bullseye in Daredevil season 39:51 The Boys trailer12:14 Titan Batman killing again15:07 Margot Robbie Barbie news15:51 Mortal Engines trailer17:29 Hellboy news21:54 Aquaman trailer29:59 Chris Evans leaves Captain America34:17 Avengers 4 Title36:26 Spider-man Far From Home reveal40:42 The Mandalorian46:31 Venom (spoilers 56:42 - 1:13:49)1:13:49 What We Reading/What We Gonna Read1:16:05 Letters It’s Time For LettersBuy Venom on Amazon: https://amzn.to/2AN8a7QThe Weekly Planet YouTube Channel: https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHFind our T-Shirts here: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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We talk comics. We talk TV shows. We talk Star Trek. That's the first bit of news. But do you want to do like a funny riff well you've derailed my funny riff i was gonna try and think what the way you do derailed my funny riff is you've shaved yes the first time in in years uh five years five years wow we're gonna talk about it a bit later in an ad which was we've already recorded so that sounds

weird and out of sync but yes yeah five years gone and done it i've gone i've been talking about it for a long time it's not bad it's just very unusual yeah i know it's like seeing the ghost from your past like looking in the mirror it's like seeing like like if we were going to cgi you this is pre-visualization this is before they put the hair on the face it's a bit henry cavill it's a bit live frame it really is yeah exactly yeah also it face. Yeah, it's a bit Henry Cavill mustache. It's a bit wireframe. It really is, yeah, exactly. Yeah, also it's very close. Like, it's a great, I mean, it's a great razor mason. We all know that. We all know that, absolutely.

But it's really, like, there's no stubble. It's really quite upsetting to Claire and you and my son. You're so shiny. I'm so shiny. It's just, you're weird. You're texture free. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you put two lines on either side of your chin,

you'd look like a ventriloquist dummy. Should I do that for the gram? Yes, we'll do it for the gram. Ow, ow, free. Yeah, yeah. If you put two lines on either side of your chin, you'd look like a ventriloquist dummy. Should I do that for the gram? Yes, do it for the gram. And then there's a bigger version of you that isn't clean shaven and you're drinking a glass of water. So what you're going to have to do is you're going to have to take a photo of you drinking a glass of water and then you can just draw the beard back on, I guess. Okay. drinking a glass of water and then you can just i'll put the beard back on it draw the beard back on i guess okay couldn't it be easy to just photoshop a glass of water onto an old photo of me where i've got the beard yeah i mean but we're not we're not about the easy way that's

true yeah we're about the authentic way we are and speaking of authentic ways we have a show coming up at pax yep melbourne uh 27th of october it's at 2 p.m andrew levens is going to be hosting that's right people know him from the hay. Andrew Levens is going to be hosting it. That's right. People will know him from the HeyFam podcast and Series Issues podcast and other podcasts. And we're going to be talking about why video games based on movies are bad and why movies based on video games are probably worse. Correct. So if you're in the Melbourne area on that particular day, swing on by.

Swing on by. You're going to get yourself, I guess it's a Saturday, so you get yourself a Saturday pass for PAX. I think there's day passes still available, but if you want to go for the three days. Sold out. It's sold out. We did that.

We did that. That was us. That was actually before, I think. It was way before that, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Do we buy tickets because we're in it? I don't know. We should speak to Levitt.

We should, shouldn't we? And people are asking, are we recording? There's no way we'd have to buy tickets if we're on a flight. I don't know. Right. Oh, no, sorry. People are asking, are we recording? There's no way we'd have to buy tickets if we're on a plane. I don't know. Oh, no, sorry. People are asking, are we going to record it? We don't know. We don't know because we don't know if it's possible.

We don't know what their setup is. We don't know if they'll let us bring stuff in. At this point, if it's any effort on my behalf, no. Okay, great. We will not. Yeah. Also, if we don't get the response we want on the day, we'll never speak of it again. We'll destroy every copy we recorded and we'll never speak and we'll leap into the ocean leap into

the ocean which is right there that's right the great yarra river we'll swim to the other side of the yarra and maybe get like a brunch a lake brunch yeah of course the south bank brunch absolutely okay great did you watch mason knowing you did the Star Trek Discovery trailer? No, I didn't. Didn't I say before the show? You said, but then I didn't get time to do it. Do you want to pause it and watch it now? Yes. And we're back.

How was the trailer, Mason? No, we're right in the middle. Bloody hell. Oh, bloody. Okay, you've really watched it this time. I really have. Unless you just stared at your phone for a couple of minutes. I did.

It was time for my fake out. I've never watched a single thing on this podcast. It's all been a prank. Great prank, bro. Thank you. All worth it. If you could muddle your way through it, though. Okay, great.

What did you think of this trailer? Looks fun. Yeah, it does look good. Look, opinions, I think, are mixed on Star Trek Discovery. I really liked it. Yeah, me too. And I think a lot of people are kind of... I think a lot of that stems from the crew of the Discovery do not hold true to the ethos of, I guess, the Federation.

No. The Federation of Planets. But also, I guess, spoilers for that first season. They were also captained by a lunatic from another dimension. That is true, yeah. But no, there's definitely elements. Yeah, that's definitely truth to that. Yeah.

But I feel that, you know, not everybody in Star... I ascribe to the idea that not everybody in Starfleet has the moral compass of, say, the crew of the Enterprise. Whatever. They have to be... How many corrupt generals and commanders and fleet admirals or whatever exactly yeah many one of them's always gone mad exactly there has to be we have to hear the stories about those guys why not you know why not yeah somebody has to draw the shorts through and

accidentally get on a star ship crew oh you know captain by a lunatic exactly and i and i like that i like the fact that and also some people just need a job or whatever some direction so they're just getting in there and it's like, well, maybe I wasn't cut out for this job, but I'm doing it anyway. I like the... Like us. That's right. Star Trek Discovery is the us of Starfleet. It certainly is. I think the Picard show will be more classic Trek.

I'd imagine. No, it's a variety show. Oh, is it? Called the Picard show. So he's retired in Starfleet and doing a show to nobody on a farm somewhere. Correct, yes. Great. Yeah.

No, this looks good. And it's got the Spocks back. The new Spock. How many Spocks has there been now? Is this the third Spock? I mean, you've got to count kid Spocks, obviously. Yeah, no, I don't count kid Spocks. You don't count kid Spocks.

Oh, unless they have... Oh. Remember that kid Spock in the Star Trek reboot how they were all learning math in domes yeah yeah and then he beat the crap out of

he was like I don't like math no he liked math yeah man I didn't like math too much yeah he did yeah and he let his emotions get the better of him

I still don't care about those little Spocks okay just grown up Spock just okay a big Spock big Spock what do you think of this big Spock

looked good do you like his beard yes good yeah yeah does that mean he's been marooned on an outpost Spock. Okay, a big Spock. Big Spock. What do you think of this big Spock? Looked good. Do you like his beard? Yes. Good. Yeah. Does that mean he's been marooned on an outpost or something? I don't know. It looks that way.

It looks like he's on some sort of med bay lift or something. There appears to be some kind of magic and prophecy in this, but I'm assuming it's just some kind of alien force or parasite or something like that. I'd say it's either a parasite or a coincidence. Could be a coincidence. Because we have one of our main characters who's like, I had a vision of it. And I reckon probably just a coincidence. They're always having visions with each other, though,

because they're all mind-connected, remember? Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Anyway, we've got to move on, Mace. We've got a lot to talk about this week because it is New York Comic-Con weekend, or it was. There were so many hot topics and hot news happening. Yes. It's too many. Give me an so many hot topics and hot news happening. Yes.

It's too many. Give me an example of one piece of hot news. I don't even know if this is- You couldn't. You don't have another one. I'm calling you a bluff. I don't think you have a single piece of hot news. Let me pause the podcast.

Okay, great. And find some hot news. All right. How's this for hot news? We saw Bullseye in the new Daredevil trailers. Yeah, we did. Initially- No, wait, wait, wait.

We saw Daredevil. He said his name new daredevil trailers yeah initially no wait wait wait we saw daredevil he said his name was daredevil did you see the second trailer where he says he's bullseye okay no he takes his mask off and he's wearing a hat that's got a target on it nice and he's like i'm impersonating daredevil and i've beaten up daredevil and i'm really good at throwing things wow yeah what i like is they've just gone straight down the line and they're like if you're not au fait with if you're not one of these comic book nerds

it's au fait with all the lore you just want a character to show up and say what their name is and what their powers are that's what I want

yeah but man that first trailer especially looked yeah oh so good the second one's only like a minute

and it's mostly bullseye focused yeah but you're gonna say bullseye farting there's mostly there's a lot of that

wow with great precision that's what I thought you could hit someone in the mouth from across the room you think you're going to get out of here

bullseye thump where do you think bullseye got the daredevil suit from did he pull it out from the rubble oh no

did he get it made by kingpins I think kingpins guy made it for him yeah yeah so it says in the second trailer? Oh, no, I think... Did it get made by Kingpins? I think Kingpins guy made it for him, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So it says in the second trailer, which I think it's third trailer by now, that...

Did I say that I had a feeling the Kingpin was back? He is back. You did say that. I did say that. With the cufflinks or whatever. But was I ahead of schedule or did I just... They may have announced it. Was that information already out there?

No idea. No idea. But he's got the full white tux and... He does. He's back to his... Is it a rose that he's got or is it a different flower? It's usually a rose. Yeah, right.

His wife's not dead, is she? Or girlfriend in this? Vanessa! No, she's alive, I think, in some of the trailers. Yeah. He's a big angry baby, that guy, isn't he? He is, yeah. So he's moving more towards being the comic book kingpin.

And somebody, I think, on Twitter tweeted Vincent D'Onofrio, I love your performance as the Kingpin. It's a shame we'll never see him versus Spider-Man in the movies. And he was like, don't speak too soon. I don't think so either. I mean, I'd love to see that because I think he's really good. Yeah. I'd like to see some kind of crossover.

It'd just be nice. Somebody messaged, and I don't have this in front of me that there's a hint in the last iron fist season that it's set in 2016 which would explain why half the people aren't dust i guess yeah okay i don't know whether that's true but uh i haven't finished iron fist yet so but you will again enjoyed it more yeah the first season for for sure. Yeah. Maybe. I'm definitely giving this a go, though. It looks really good. Yeah, and the fight sequences look great. Yeah.

I mean, there is a Dower hallway fight, but I mean... There's got to be. That's a signature move of this series. They bought it. They bought that money. They bought the rights to it, yeah. Yeah, that's what I was saying. They have the trademark on the Dower hallway fight.

They certainly do. I don't think we're going to be getting any Dower hallway fights in this. Maybe some Dower alley fights. But there was a first teaser trailer for The Boys. There was, yeah. Is it a Garth Ennis? It is Garth Ennis, yes. Is it a comic book?

Great comic book. Great run. And it's... So the trailer's basically... You saw it. You saw this one. Yeah, I did saw this one it's a yeah it's a i did see this one it's uh it's a um like it's an it's an advertorial for vot industries which is the the company that oversees

uh superhero management in this universe the seven greatest heroes that's right so in the in the universe of the boys uh there exists superheroes but due to fears that they would become too powerful and sort of overrun the world superheroes are allowed to exist but they're not allowed to be trained yeah right so so they're just they're mostly very powerful idiots yes for the most part who look good on camera. No responsibility. Yeah, and the boys are like a paramilitary team that exists to take them down if they cause too much trouble. And they do. And it's mostly them taking superpower pills

and then punching them in the head. It's a really good comic. But speaking of casting, because you probably know this, but the character of Huey, who's one of the leads, or I guess the lead. Who in the comic books looks a lot like Simon Pegg. He looks exactly like Simon Pegg. So big, yes. Simon Pegg was originally going to play him years ago.

That was the idea. In a movie, maybe. Yeah. He aged out of the role, but he's actually joined the cast as Huey's father. That's fun. So, yeah. Okay, that's good. I still think he probably could have done it.

He's not that old. He still looks good. He looks very youthful. Yeah, yeah. But anyway, that's good. I'm glad he's in it. And. He's not that old. He still looks good. He looks very youthful. Yeah, yeah. But anyway, that's good. I'm glad he's in it. And look, it's got a Carl Urban. It's got a Carl Urban.

And a Simon Pegg. Yes. That's like a Star Trek. They're back together. Yeah. Yeah. Do you think they'll get all the other cast? The entire cast of the Star Trek?

Yeah, every member of the Star Trek reboot. Some of them died. Oh. Probably not all of them. Not all of them. Anyway, I'm looking forward to this. I think it looks great. Mm-hmm. And I will see it. And then you'll see it them. Not all of them. Anyway, I'm looking forward to this. I think it looks great. And I will see it.

And then you'll see it. I'm also new. Maybe you'll see it first. It's not, I don't have to see it first and then you see it. That's not how it works. Let's have a friendly wager. Let's see who sees it first. Okay, great.

Right. You first want to watch it and then do a race around the world. Ooh. Yeah, that's right. Can I have a hot air balloon? The winner gets 10 quid. It seems not. Oh, yeah. Okay. Can I have a hot air balloon? The winner gets 10 quid. That seems not... Oh, yeah.

Okay. Exchange rate? $4 billion. $4 billion. That's right, yeah? Okay. I just thought you'd want to know this, but the Titan... The show's called Titan.

It's not Teen Titans. You know what I'm talking about. Titans? Titans or Titan. I don't know. Is it called Titans? It's called Titans Whitens. Titans Whitens.

Is it about underwear? Yeah, it's about underwear yeah it's about underwear okay big old white briefs but the invention of underwear a lot more exciting you'd think really just costumed heroes beating each other up anyway it's already been renewed for a season two interesting uh and the people have seen the first episode it's been reviewed and it's been generally positive people People are pretty keen on it. Good stuff. Again, good Robin costume. Yes.

Over the last few weeks, I've also seen, because that's the Dick Grayson Robin we're seeing mostly. There's also a... Tim Drake. And I think it's Jason Todd. Oh, is it? Sorry, yeah, it is. So if you've ever wanted to... Or is it?

I don't know. It's just a slightly smaller version of the existing Robin in a very similar costume. So that was out. I think somebody in an interview, one of the stars of this show has said that this is a universe in which batman is a killer that's what i was about to bring up next and that's why he says fuck batman in that trailer right after killing an alley full of people or it's a flash weird mind or a dream who knows yeah batman doesn't have to be a killer that's right why are they why are they

why are they doing that it's his defining character we've look has there been a version who's not a killer in the movies ever no sorry live action actually the clooney one but it's still the keaton one he's still a killer right but i mean i adam west has killed as well did he yeah i did a kill count he did it in the movies didn't he yeah he dehydrated those guys i mean he did by accident but he still did it he still did it it's true but did it in the movies, didn't he? Yeah. He dehydrated those guys. I mean, he did it by accident, but he still did it. He still did it. It's true. But I mean, the defining characteristic of the comic version is he doesn't.

Yeah. Doesn't he just leave because he leaves Batman because he doesn't agree with his methods and he's like, should we try new stuff? Well, I mean, it depends on the version. A lot of the modern day version, I think, was fired by Batman from being Robin and then he became Nightwing and then Batman's like, like actually i kind of made a mistake there yeah um but like again we've done this to death but it makes no sense both from a character standpoint of like well you know the whole idea of batman is he wants to find a way you know he was so

traumatized by the death of his parents he doesn't want that to happen to anybody. He doesn't want to kill a villain because maybe they have a kid and then the whole cycle would begin anew. But also, it doesn't make any sense because if he was a killer, why isn't he killed like the Joker? Yes. Why is he killing random thugs? Yep. Who are probably just doing it because they need to feed their kids

and not killing the Joker who's a mass murderer. All good questions that won't be answered. They'll never be answered, will they? Yeah. Anyway, I guess answered, will they? Yeah. Anyway, I guess I'll watch some of it. I think it's coming to Netflix in Australia.

Yeah, I think it is. I don't know. No, it is coming to Netflix. Okay. Because the DC streaming service isn't here. Not available. By all accounts,

there's not enough stuff on there for me to be interested. You just open it up and it's like, do you want to watch Titans? No. And then it just cancels and deletes itself.

This isn't comic book news. Oh, good. But there's probably comic books of this. Margot Robbie has joined the Barbie movie, but it's sort of comic book news because she's in comic book movies and Patty Jenkins might be directing. She directed a comic book movie. That's right.

It was going to be Amy Schumer at one point. I think it was going to be like, I'm perfect in a Barbie world or whatever. Oh, okay. They're not doing that. And they're doing Margot Robbie who looks like looks like Bobby yeah that makes makes a lot of sense yeah do you think it'll be a comedy I think it has to be right has to be a bit tongue-in-cheek

and not conforming to norms and stuff yeah you can't do Barbie is just I live in a dream house and this is my boyfriend I've got a pink car yeah I think and today I'm an astronaut. I think it'd be more Lego movie. Maybe you could. Maybe you could. You know what? That sounds great. Yeah.

Mortal Engines new trailer, Mason. I said to you to watch this and you did. You didn't watch Star Trek. No. But I also said, you don't really have to watch it. But you said, no, I insist. You went above and beyond. That's right.

And you probably watched all of it. I'm more intrigued by this as we see more trailers for it. Do you like that Hugo Weaving has a wig? Yes. And he's in a big city swallowing up other cities on wheels? And he's got glowy green eyes too. Does he? I didn't mind missing that. Yeah. Yeah, so there's a monster in this trailer as well or something? I think that's him. Isn't that him? No, I thought that was something

he kept in a cage or something. I thought that was him. I don't know, man. I think the cage is his mind. I don't think the cage is his mind. Maybe I didn't really watch this trailer. It seems like you didn't, but you watched it enough. Yeah, I watched it enough, yeah. Yeah, and look, I didn't insist watch this trailer. It seems like you didn't, but you watched it enough. Yeah, I watched it enough. Yeah. And look, I didn't insist by any stretch. It's true. We'll definitely see this.

It's by, I can't remember the name of the director, but he worked on the Lord of the Rings and Hobbit film. So it's not a Peter Jackson directed film, but he is involved. And they have a look, these kind of wetter,

big special effect films. They do, yeah. I don't know what it is, but there's something, they're distinct, know like this and like king kong and the hobbit and lord of the rings you can kind of tell they're the same it's a certain it's a certain crispness and it's a certain soft focus i was gonna say the opposite i was gonna say all the details are very visible yeah right i don't know there's probably a technical

term for it i bet there is making. Maybe we're both right. Maybe we are. Anyway, so are you going to see this whenever it's out? Yeah, probably. Yeah, good. Looks so expensive. Yeah, for such a stupid idea. What year is it set in?

Do we know? I don't know. Yeah. Is there magic? What's going on? I'm sure it says it in the trailers, and it would almost certainly say it in the books. But yeah, I don't know.

There was a Hellboy trailer this weekend. We couldn't catch it, Mason. It wasn't online fast enough, or at all. But there was a banner which showed some of the characters that are going to be popping up. Royal Accounts people really liked the trailer. They were like, yeah, looks good. That doesn't sound like they really liked it. It sounds like they really liked it to me, Mason.

Instead of insane wooing at Comic Con It was just like Yep, looks good Good Okay, moving on Next thing Great No, it's been pretty positive

So What do you think of that? The Hellboy picture Looks good Does look good, yeah Have we talked about whether or not they should have I'm sure we have Done the other

Finished the trilogy The last Was it definitively going to be a trilogy? I think so Because remember the last one It's like she's like i'm having a baby and he's like those films are really good i think i need to watch them again me too yeah i really like two though a lot but you like one more i like one more than two because it's got nazis and he shoots nazis yeah it's one of my faves. It had the sand Nazi, didn't it? Yeah, it did have the sand.

Like the man made of clockwork. Yeah, sand clockwork knife Nazi. Yeah, there's some great creativity in that and puppetry and wizardry. Yeah, it's really good. Movie making. Maybe, Mason. Yeah, uh-huh.

I don't know the term for it. But he looks good as the new Hellboy. He does. But we haven't seen it in motion, Mason. So maybe he doesn't look good. Maybe you've jumped to a conclusion here. It must be embarrassing for you to do such a thing. Do you feel embarrassed?

No, I mean, the novelty of me being embarrassed wore off years ago. Sure. He also has a sword. Yeah. What do you think of that? Pretty good. Normally, because in the other movies,

he's got a gun. That's true. And a fist. It could be any number of swords, I guess, from the comic books. It could be Excalibur. Could be. Could be. Does his dad have a sword? I think his dad has a fist. It could be any number of swords, I guess, from the comic books. It could be Excalibur. It could be. It could be.

Does his dad have a sword? I think his dad has a sword. Like his Earth dad? No, his demon dad has a sword, I believe. I'm sure he probably does. Yeah, I think maybe he nixed that for a bit. It could be that one. Totes.

I agree. Anyway, it seems a bit more low budget, a bit more grim and gritty. Yeah, cool. I'll give this a bloody pearl. Right. yeah cool i'll give this a bloody pearl right so okay so all given that you know hellboy one was pretty grounded hellboy two went into all sorts of uh one pretty grounded i remember being fairly grounded i'm not maybe not even clockwork sand nazi i know and it like a giant plant monster or something or was that two no that was one also okay but i mean and he fell into another dimension at the end or something didn't he oh yeah that also happened but what i'm saying it's

like a giant weird whale like a parasite was trying to come through a portal yeah that was a cthulhu monster yeah that's what i'm saying what i'm saying i'm pretty grounded what i mean i guess what i think is that the scope the scope of the first one was quite i feel quite small given all those things that you just said. But the scope of two went huge. It went really Guillermo del Toro. Yeah. Like 2 or 2.11.

Giant clockwork. Cities and such. This and that, yeah. And the whole Golden Army and everything. I like that. Would you have preferred this new one to be huge on that scale or grounded? No, I think more grounded, I think, yeah. Because it just seems like from the limited amounts of Hellboy that I've read, a lot of it seems just fighting weird supernatural stuff not giant clockwork and i also think a lot

of yeah i don't know i haven't read that much of it well i mean again it does go up and down which is sort of what i appreciate you know it's there's the you know hellboy in hell which was kind of this sprawling epic towards the end of the series but there's like a lot of the hellboy stuff that i enjoyed was just sort of like smaller stories. Maybe there was some, occasionally you'd find when it wasn't even in like a Hellboy comic, it was just in like an anthology thing.

And it's just Hellboy walking through a cemetery looking for a key or something. Right, okay. And those stories are always good as well. That should be the movie then. Yes. Your favorite Hellboy story. Thank you.

Most boring movie ever made. Oh, come on. It's poignant, right? I get it, yeah. That could definitely be a two and a half hour movie, is what I'm saying. I'm agreeing with you, Mason. Your crap idea for a film, I think, is not crap.

I'm with you. Thank you. Thank you. Well, if only there's millions more exactly like you. Yeah. I think it'll do okay. I don't think they're banking on it doing crazy numbers, which is, I guess, why they didn't pump as much money into it as the other two.

I liked also at the end of the first one, the protagonists, because they brought in a regular guy to be the lead guy. It's like, we can't have a weird demon monster. And then the second movie, they're just like, yeah, we got rid of him. They did, didn't they? Well, you know, it was... You didn't need him. Yeah, that's right.

That poor guy, whatever his name is. Yeah. Crimes, Graves. Graves? Sounds like it would be a Graves, wouldn't it? Yeah, yeah. Okay. We got a five minute plus Aquaman extended trailer.

That's true, we did. Did a bit of a bloody video on Mason. You can check it out below. I'll link it below. What were your highlights? It looks good. Nailed it. On the most part.

I like that it's not set in a weird cgi smoke and fire world that is true yeah uh-huh you know you can see what's happening for a lot of it you know when there's somebody running across the rooftop it looks like they're actually actually running that's incredible yeah uh-huh not just like you know like remember the batman superman doomsday fight and everyone's just throwing themselves at each other for 40 feet away yeah exactly yeah so no i think i think it looks really good i think there's a you know there's a very real possibility that this could i don't know water world i guess i don't think no i don't think that's yeah but i don't think it will no what's an epic that kind of like a uh what's that one

where channing tatum is a dog man a jupiter jupiter yeah right but i don't think it's gonna be that right yeah What about you? We've got some Nicole Kidman in there. Yeah. Great. She's flipping about. Flipping about, exactly. We're going to first look at Black Manta in motion.

Yeah, it was a little bit in the last trailer, but what do you think of that suit? Looks good. I think it looks really great. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've heard people say it's kind of a goofy design, and it is, but that's the comic book design. I think that's a pretty good representation without looking dumb exactly and i think this they're you know they're fully

embracing comic book designs at this point yeah we're we're way beyond the idea of yeah just put them all in black leather yes it's fine are we though because i feel like some films aren't no some yeah some films definitely aren't uh how do you feel about did you find it funny yeah did you like the idea and i did a lot that they took aquaman out of the ocean it's a scene set in a desert they do it a lot well not a lot but they do it in the comics every now and then yeah and it makes for an interesting kind of read and i like that he's not like oh water yeah because that's not how he operates yeah you know he's not you can't just dump him in the desert and he dies straight away you know he's more hardy than a regular human yeah there's some huge battle sequences which

look good that kind of stuff i'm like okay yeah okay so what is that what is this device that they're opening up in the desert i think it's like a prophecy to be like get the trident and with the trident you you can be the ruler and you can rule the seas but if someone bad gets the trident okay wait so does that mean there are there were there are two atlantises i believe that is the ancient atlantis before it went into the ocean oh right right yeah so some of it went to the ocean and some of it that one room i just sort of slid off yeah just okay because it was so far in the past that it was before the sahara was a desert yep how are you enjoying mirror's hair yeah i've settled into it it's clearly a wig yes but it kind of seeing the rest of the movie and you see like the underwater kingdom the

dove lunger and underwater kingdom and it's just this enormous blue impossible kind of chamber it works with the color palette of the movie i feel okay some of this some of this black i'm just getting back i'm just looking at this black man to fight he does look a little bit styrofoamy in that suit well he's got a move doesn't he mate yeah yeah that's a big old helmet uh-huh yeah there's gonna be a couple of suits so i think he's got a homemade one and then orm's like why are you running with that dumb thing yeah right he's a cool thing one okay yeah you know this this chase sequence looks solid i appreciate it here's thing. I don't know if she is running across real rooftops or sets or CGI, but at least it doesn't look like she's just running through a CGI.

Yeah, because a few people have said she looks kind of slow when she's running, but that's just how a person, that's how fast a regular person would run. I mean, not that she's a regular person. Yeah, right. No, that's some good stuff. You know how Aquaman, like, shoots off in the water and he swims real fast? Yes.

Is he kicking his feet, or is he just like Superman, where he can just, like... He must be kicking his feet. Yeah. I mean, there's no must about it. He should be. Oh, look at that. Look at that giant bloody...

Crab? Yeah, crab walker thing. Good stuff. Look, I'm excited for it. Yeah, don't need any more trailers. Yep. According to James Wan on Twitter, he said all trailers inherently spoil parts of a movie,

but that hasn't scratched the surface of the film. The surface? Yeah, surface. Scratch, though. Surface world. You can't scratch water. Oh, yeah, no, okay. I think he's mixed his metaphors.

He really has. That's barely skipped the surface. That's what he should have said. With a stone. Yeah. What an idiot. They should fire him. Don't you think?'s what he should have said. With a stone. Yeah. What an idiot. They should fire him. Don't you think?

I think they should fire him. Yeah. Yeah. Bring in Scott Snyder. Zack Snyder. Or Scott Snyder. Any of the Snyders. Yeah.

Bring in Dee Snyder. Who's Dee Snyder? They're in a band. Cool. From Twisted Sister. That sounds great. Yeah. I'm going to look that up just to make sure that's a rock and roll person and not like

a white supremacist. Oh, okay. Cool. I thought you were going to make sure your knowledge was spot on because i was going to be like who cares yeah exactly i also don't care here we go d snatter what do we got mason twisted sister good stuff that's a relief yeah well you've done it i mean i could have edited it out but now i don't have to that's true yeah you've done a great service for this country you're welcome oh i gotta ask you about the the classic costume looks good gold and the green ah the australian mate by the way people don't know that's the australian colors despite our flags not being any of those colors yeah you know this because every four years of the olympics we have an awful we have an awful uniform based on those colors yep it's always like a yellow suit and a green shirt and you're like what are you doing with corks yeah it's always the worst thing in the world yeah yeah yeah yuck uh it looks good i don't know it's based off the

wattle which is in australia look i i understand that they you know they want they want to show us because that's the classic aquaman suit and it look it does look good but it also looks a little bit odd with the jasonoa. On him, yeah. I like it. With the long greys, yeah. It does look good. I think it looks better than the wee crab-shelled armour that he's got in the other films. Absolutely, yeah.

Do you reckon it's CGI? It'd have to be, right? I think so, yeah. Anyway, we'll find out on the day, won't we? We sure will. Yeah. Is that from Australia? I think it was.

We'll find out on the day. We'll wait till the end and it'll say, made with the assistance of the Australian Film and Television. Can't wait. Green and gold, baby. Yeah, it is. Yeah. Oh, man. That's what the Australian Olympic team should wear.

Green and gold? Green pants and gold chain mail. Not a bad idea. That's right. I'm full of good ideas. And they're going to CGI them? Yeah. Okay.

Yeah. Do you reckon they could do that? Probably. Yeah. When's the next Olympics? Who cares?. Yeah. Do you reckon they could do that? Probably. Yeah. When's the next Olympics? Who cares? Good point. What are we, an Olympics podcast?

No. Should we pivot to being an Olympics podcast? I haven't watched the last two. No, no idea. That's eight years of not watching the Olympics. Wow. How have you survived? Oh, no, it's four, I guess. Because, you know, they're open to whatever.

Uh-huh. I didn't really watch the London one either, to be fair. And I was in. No, I wasn't in. You were in that olympics i was in yeah i was yeah uh anyway all of that was irrelevant and lies so we've got okay but if you were gonna be in the olympics down ball down balls an olympic sport no wow i thought you could bring your own sport i mean in the ancient olympics you could bring your own sport but now they're pretty firmly established i feel like the guinness world records is now just whatever it's like i'm the man who weighed a thousand match

sticks it really is okay okay well well guess what now you have a nemesis who's decided he's gonna eat more match match sticks than you and that's your life forever you've invented you've built a rod for your own back and that rod is eating match sticks for the rest of your life good work good work and now you'll have a footnote in the guinness book of world records You've built a rod for your own back and that rod is eating matchsticks for the rest of your life. Good work. Good work. And now you'll have a footnote in the Guinness Book of World Records. Did you read those as a kid though?

Yeah, of course. I read them a lot. So good. Yeah. What I'm saying is though, if you're in the Olympics, what sport would you? I'd probably be the world's fastest man. That'd be great. Pretty good, yeah.

I'm not. No. But you're saying if I could just do that. Yeah. Yeah. I man i don't really care okay what would you do down ball yeah down the ball i was gonna say shot put archery okay yeah okay yeah what if it was something based off something you could actually do oh then social media so you're bringing your own sport yeah bringing my own sport yeah but you know there's gonna be someone better at social media than you then you're gonna be locked in that forever. That's true, yeah.

You're going to be up against Jake Paul for the rest of your life. Oh, no, and he's doing it every day, bro. He is. Yeah, okay, okay, I've got to quit then. I'll quit while I'm on top, all right? Well, speaking of quitting while you're on top, Mason, Chris Evans has said goodbye to Captain America on Twitter or Instagram. I can bring it up because I haven't, and I thought about bringing it up and then I didn't.

But now I'm here in the moment. I'm like, I should have brought it up. I did find the link. It'd be a shame to waste the Segway, you know? Yeah, here we go. Speaking of which, Segway would be my, that'd be my Olympic sport. What? Building Segways?

No, driving a Segway. But you know there's somebody who's going to be Segwaying every day. Damn it. Chris Evans, this is what he said officially wrapped on avengers 4 it was an emotional day to say the least playing this role over the last eight years that's three olympics has been an honor just to clarify it is three because there's one at the start then one in the middle and then one at the end that's how it works okay yeah to everyone in front of the camera behind the camera and in the audience thank you for the memories eternally grateful so what a class act he is i like he was already quitting right that

was the story beforehand yeah but this seems to be official but do you think it's a fake out where he's going to come back and he's going to take what we should do maybe take the first letter of each of those words okay and if it says all in baby then maybe that's a clue that he's still in no it says oh uh four that's an avengers four clue that's a clue to avengers four i mean one of the words is avengers four in this yeah but that's not that's a fake out that's a red herring why are people always looking for red herrings and fake outs in this shit i don't know yeah i mean we are yeah do you think he's going to come back at some point ah man he's been in a lot of movies, hasn't he? He's been in at least as many as he has done. Yep, exactly.

If not less. Possibly more. Oh, all right. Could he be in more movies than he's actually been in, though? You know what? Think about it, Mason. I would love to see him in... If he's gone, I would love to see him in more of those high school PSAs.

Oh, yeah, sure. In the Spider-Man movies or whatever. They probably recorded a bunch of those. Yeah, there's a gag reel on the Homecoming Blu-ray where it's just like a run of those. You're going to have to pay him every time they do it then? Yes. Even though he's already recorded them?

Sure, there's a clause where they don't have to. It's like a Brando Superman 2 thing where they have to reshoot it. Right, right, right. Again, he's a character that I would like to see stick around forever. Yeah. But Chris Evans has got to do something else at some point. He's directing as well and... Yeah, exactly.

So... He's a good actor. Yeah, I don't want to... Given that he is a good actor and a class act, I don't want to pigeonhole him to one character for the rest of his life. You want this class actor out in the world. Exactly.

So it'd be nice to... You know, I guess if he's done, he's done. But I would like to see him maybe, you know, he gets killed off in Avengers 4, but he comes back in a sort of dream sequences or the occasional time travel bit. Yeah, right. You know, maybe a scene.

And again, if we're going to introduce time travel to this universe or parallel dimensions or something, maybe he pops up every once in a while in a little snippet, and you go, that's right, he's the best. Chris Evans. Chris Evans. Chris Evans. Everybody goes, Chris Evans. I would like to see evil Captain America in a few years.

Yeah, great. Like, if he dies, I bring him back with the Infinity Gauntlet or Red Skull does. And it's like, oh, he sucks. And you think he's good, but he sucks. I'm glad he was killed last time. Yeah. So that I would like to see.

Because I think if you kill him off and you just bring him back and it's just same old cap or whatever i don't think that's i mean that does make him that does make him the main antagonist for a movie or does it could you yes would you would you be willing to see him brought back as like a like a undead maybe like a non speaking role or something like that why bring don't need that. Why bring him back then? Yeah, okay. Imagine someone with the charm and charisma and class acting of Chris Evans. Yeah. Except he's evil, you know? Mason's just adjusting his back pocket. I'm back.

What is that? Is that a wallet? It's my wallet. That button's too big on it. No wonder you... I think it's a correct size button. It's not, because if it was, you'd be comfortable sitting on it. Nope.

Okay. Yeah, all right. Disagree. Now to get the feeling back on my legs. How's that? Here we go. It's great. Good stuff.

No, you're right, I think. And it would be interesting to see a version of Captain America who has all the charm of Chris Evans, but he's evil. And that's what the comic is as well. Yeah. Like he's very nice and reasonable, and he's good to the people who he's allied with. But he's also a science fiction Nazi.

Yes, that's right. So, what a combination of things. Mark Ruffalo might be in Trouble Mason in real life for gambling debts. Oh. Pranking, yes. But also, he may have revealed the title of Avengers Annihilation. I mean 4, which is Annihilation.

Now I've revealed it! Now you're in trouble. Notice I haven't said anything. I just mentioned his pranking. Yes, you did. Because I think he went around Comic-Con with a mask on or something. It was a big reveal. It's me, Mark Ruffalo.

If I ever go to Comic-Con, it's just going to be me running around ripping masks off people. Yeah, right. Looking for Henry Cavill. Are you Mark Ruffalo? Are you Cavill? Where are you? Cavill! Show yourself!

I'm going to kill one Comic-Con goer every 10 minutes until you reveal yourself, Cavill! So what do you think of the title? Fine. If it is the title. The Russo brothers have kind of hinted out that it might be. They cut it out of Jimmy Fallon or wherever he was on when we said it too. Right, okay. Interesting.

Is this the fake out there? Sounds fine. Who knows? Yeah, right? We don't know. They throw this shit out there and people endlessly speculate about it. That's what happens. Yeah, yeah.

But this then throw... I mean, people have said, I think, that, well, this means we won't see the actual Marvel annihilation event on the movies. But we don't have to see every... No. But also they can just call it a different thing. Call it a different thing. Age of Ultron isn't an age.

No. It's like a day and a half. Day and a half of Ultron. A couple of days of Ultron. A couple of days. As we've established, yes. That's right. Great.

You like the title though it's fine yeah kind of hard to spell but Annihilation of what too many N's I mean the Annihilation already happened surely

Avengers there was Annihilation is that what you want like a past tense yeah exactly remember that Annihilation that was crazy Avengers 4

they've reversed it. That's the big twist. That's good. Yeah. The tagline's up the top. Why don't you work for Marvel? I mean, your dad's Bob Iger. He could get you a job.

Yeah, that's true. I don't understand. Yeah. Anyway. Podcasting's more pure, you know. There's less studio interference. Yeah. Time for an ad.

Here we go. Actually, probably in a bit. Yeah, all right. We're going to talk about Spider-Man Far From Home. Ooh, yes, we go. Actually, probably in a bit. Yeah, all right. We're going to talk about Spider-Man Far From Home. Ooh, yes, we do. This may be far from cinemas, Mason, a year or so out, maybe less, maybe more. They're filming it at the moment. There's a few reveals.

One, a black suit Spider-Man. Yeah, it looks... Stealth and bloody, what's it called, noir. It looks very like Spider-Man noir. Is that a function of it being... Is that a stealthy suit or is it something he's cobbled together? I think it's a shield suit. I think it's got a shield logo on it.

Right, okay. I think someone spotted it. Okay, that's cool. Yeah. Right. Do we know... We don't really know any story details about Far From Home yet. We don't even know why he's in England.

No. Hmm. Probably a field trip. Could be a field trip. Yeah. I had the impression that maybe that's where he lands after the events of Avengers 4. After he's brought back to life.

Yes. Which he'll have to be. Yeah. Yeah, possibly. I think also a lot of his cast, they're with him in London or Europe. Oh, like the school mates. Maybe they're doing a...

Oh, then it's a field trip. Maybe they're doing schoolies, mate. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay. How old... No, wait. How old was he in the last one? He was 15, so... Nah, so it's schoolies. No oh yeah okay how old no wait how old was he in the last one 15 so

nah i think they should i know he wouldn't be but i think they should get him out of school as quickly as possible yeah because tom holland is approaching 40 so that's so true aren't we all no i mean not me i'm in the prime of my youth or whatever i said last whatever you said last week yes so uh and the other reveal was Mysterio. Yeah, Jake Gyllenhaal. Jake Gyllenhaal, who was nearly Spider-Man in Spider-Man 2 when Tobey Maguire had a back injury and used it as a negotiation tactic for more money or something.

And they actually got Gyllenhaal, but then they all switched. Right, okay. I like the suit from what we've seen. What do you think the helmet's going to be? Do you think it's going to be like a force field? Probably. I mean, if this follows the route of Homecoming, where the villains are using a lot of alien technology.

Well, that one was. That one. I don't think that every one of them will. No, that's probably true. Because then that's the Amazing Spider-Man 2 situation. But here's the thing about this. No, I don't like it. No, go on.

Let me get two more words out i don't like your confidence okay i find it sickening it's very off-putting it's bad right um what if spider-man is there yeah because shields like we're having problems this alien tech has gotten out there yeah we're gonna send you around the world to get rid of it and because you had you were so good about it last time yeah then you're our official guy now. I mean, you got that ship cut in half. That's true, yeah. You dickhead.

But then you came good in the end. You came good in the end. By saving the guy who was trying to kill everybody, you know? Yeah, that was good of you. Really nice of you. I mean, he was really old. Yeah, he probably would have died anyway. Yeah, potentially.

I think he's definitely going to have a S.H.I.E.L.D. interaction. Maybe that can just bring back Coulson now because he was in Captain Marvel. I'll be like, yeah, people know him now. And I think there's a version of the... I think there's a Spider-Man cartoon where he's the principal. Yes, there is. Of his high school, right?

You're absolutely right. So maybe add that. And the same actor. Yeah, right. I just got this here. Spider-Man Far From Home. Nick Fury spotted with Spider-Man in unexpected surroundings. England.

In a chip shop. They're on a channel in... He's probably in a chip shop. They're in a boat together on Venice. In Venice. That is far from home. It's like Indiana Jones. Barely any chip shops.

In Italy. Yes. Look, I've been there. I've traveled quite a bit. I know. There's not that many chip shops. You're right. Isn't that interesting? Maybe they're getting gelato. That's possible. i've been there i've traveled quite a bit i know there's not that many chip shops you're right yeah yeah isn't that interesting maybe they're getting gelato that's possible have you been there too yes both of us have traveled extensively exactly

that's right man of the world correct yes me probably more so but yeah both of us in a way yeah all right you're too young to have traveled as much that's true yeah exactly yeah i've barely gotten out of this little town you you know? Yeah, sure. One day I'll pack up my little wagon. Yeah. I'll hop on a steamer. And off you go. And off I go, yeah.

But anyway, I wouldn't put it past he goes onto a field. Here's my plot prediction, which will invariably be wrong. He goes on a field trip to England with his classmates. He shows up. Nick Fury's there. He's like, hey, we know you're Spider-Man. Here's a Spider-Man suit. Sweet.

Now go beat up some people. Also, I and Nick Fury are here so we don't have to pay Robert Downey Jr. $120 million. Also, maybe he's dead. Also, maybe he's dead. Maybe he's dead. Good point. Man. Yep.

What a world. Mason, last week was really exciting news for you because it was the revelation that Star Wars movies were slowing down. Yes. And you were like, well, that means less news. Yes, that's right. And I said, but I think they're going to be ramping up television shows and other medias. And I said, I guess.

And that has come to fruition one full week. I'm aware. Yeah, I'm aware. But this is good Star Wars news for me. I resigned you out of this now. Yeah, this is quite good. Yeah, so you are to this now yeah this is quite good yeah so what are we talking about

this is the Mandalorian right which is a this is going to be on this the Disney streaming service correct and it's going to be it has

it has a rotating cast of directors great list Taika Waititi yes a different person definitely three to four more people

it's Ava DuVernay I think might be doing one yeah right the dude who directedernay I think Might be doing one Yeah right The dude who directed Dope I think Okay Someone else

There's like Yeah they named like Three or four George Lucas George Lucas Director Yeah Red Tails

I mean he didn't direct that And apparently it's not good Red Dog Did he make Red Dog Did he make Red Dog 2 True Blue Whatever it's called Yeah he directed that also

Yep Great Name another movie With red in it? Oh, no. I was going to say Oddball. What's Oddball? An Australian movie about a penguin or something.

Oh, you what? Okay. He directed that? Yep. He directed Harvey Crumpet. Yep. Yeah, great. He directed the movie Shine with Geoffrey Rush.

That's correct, yes. Yeah. He directed Crocodile Dundee 3, but not 2. Huh. He directed the LA one. Yeah, nice. Remind me to tell you something about Crocodile Dundee after. Oh, hello.

Yeah. Sounds scandalous. It's a bit scandalous. All right. All right. Yeah, nice. Remind me to tell you something about Crocodile Dundee after. Oh, hello. Sounds scandalous. It's a bit scandalous. All right, all right. Yeah. Okay, and if you subscribe to our Patreon, we will also tell you that secret. I can't.

Wow. Wow, is this some juicy Paul Hogan news you can't share? No, not that. There is rumors, though, that Chris Evans posted about making that movie on his Twitter and his Instagram, so maybe they will. Anyway, The Mandalorian. Takeaway. George Lucas directed the film Takeaway.

Getting square. Getting square. Getting square. I'm going to bring up that list of directors while you talk about other things about this series. Okay. You don't have anything else? Would you see the image? Yeah.

So it's a bloody... Jon Favreau. Bryce Dallas Howard. Bryce Dallas Howard directing. Very good. Yeah, so it's a bloody... Jon Favreau, Bryce Dallas Howard. Bryce Dallas Howard directing, very good. Yeah, because she's directing now. Nice. More like nice Dallas Howard. She seems very nice.

Yeah. Dallas Howard. Yes, thank you. Yeah, it looks exciting. But we've only got the one. We've literally got the one image, right? But by God, what an image. Now, is that Boba Fett or is it just a Mandalorian? Okay, I've got the synopsis here. Here we after the stories of django and boba fett yawn another and boo another warrior emerges in the star wars universe the mandalorian is set

after the fall of the empire and before the emergence of the first order we follow the travails of a lone gunfighter in the outer reaches of the galaxy, far from the authority of the New Republic. So it's a descendant or somebody who gets the armor. It doesn't look like Boba Fett's armor. It doesn't have the little aerial. Does it have to be a Fett? No. I think maybe it's just a Mandalorian.

Well, there's the Star Wars Aftermath series. Right. And the story, I haven't read it, but in that, I think the Sarlacc is torched and somebody finds armor, Mandalorian armor. And it's implied, though it's not said that it's Boba Fett. Looking at this, though, it might be, parts of it might be Boba Fett, but it could be resprayed. It's hard to tell, really. Also, we don't know who's in it. That's what I'm saying, yeah.

I hope it's not a Fett. I mean, like, as in the actor. Oh, right. Okay, yes. Yeah. Well, I hope it's not a Fett. Yes. Well, it might be. So, I wouldn't mind seeing Boba Fett. I mean, like, as in the actor. Oh, right. Okay. Yes. Yeah. Well, I hope it's not a Fett. Yes. Well, it might be.

So I wouldn't mind seeing Boba Fett actually turn up again and get the dude who played Jango Fett to just do it because he's a great actor. Yeah, for sure. Okay. Right. And he's in Aquaman, the movie you love. That's true. He's the dad.

He's the dad. Yeah. He's also in Six Days, Seven Nights with Harrison Ford. We've talked about this. What a film yeah but what else we got here

it's going to be 10 episodes 100 million dollars for the season and like you said it's going to debut with a streaming service next year

I wonder whether they're going to drop all 10 at once or do you reckon it'll be weekly episodic I think it'll be episodic what would you prefer

probably weekly same yeah because then it's it's not a rush for everybody to watch it yeah and then we don't have to crush it in a then we don't have to crush it in a weekend

and it's something for people to talk about every week if their strategy is to keep people talking about Star Wars but not to provide endless Star Wars news which as we know is exhausting and makes us all mad some people think it's good no one likes it, it's terrible but instead if you could give us an hour of Star Wars entertainment every week,

we can talk about that much better. Okay. Now, Mason, we need a Star Wars-themed podcast. It's just going to cover recaps of this episode. We need a name, and they're all taken. Every Star Wars pun you can think of is a podcast. So you need to think about that, all right? Okay, I'll think about it.

I'll let you know at the end of the episode. okay now this is podcasting that's probably one yeah it is i've seen it yeah they're good aren't they they're they're and by that i mean numerous yes just listen to steel wars yeah it's good it's a good one yeah anything else about that though no sounds good i hope he's got a rocket on his back he fucking better does he have can you see the rocket on his back i don't believe so also it might not better Does he have Can you see the rocket on his back I don't believe so Also it might not be a he But what

You know the gun That he has Mandaladian But Phasma Exactly Because people are like Phasma doesn't look like a lady

What do you want Like a breastplate Do you want boobs Do you want two individual boobs That's what you want So I mean People have said Maybe it's Katie Sackhoff

Because her character Well she's in Battlestar Galactica As we know, but she voices a character from The Clone Wars and Rebels. Oh. So she could maybe show up. That's cool.

Yeah, who knows? But another rumor is the dude from Kingsman, the American guy who's not Channing Tatum, because he's rumored to be in it. Oh, Pistol Pete. Pistol Pete. Whatever, it was Whippy Dan. What was his name?

Yeah, Whippy Dan. Whippy Dan. Yeah. Mr. Whippy. Mr mr whippy mr whippy all right as women our life stages come with unique risk factors like high blood pressure developed during pregnancy which can put us two times more at risk of heart disease or stroke know your risks visit heartandstroke.ca mason we got to talk about venom because it came out oh venom uh it's oh venom uh it's big us box huge right 80 million dollars or something potentially yeah between 70 to 80 which is big and it's also a narrated film probably wouldn't have done those numbers

we talked about this so the lesson i've learned is make more movies like this movie we just saw yeah right you went to the media screening right i did now the only rip i i was a little bit busy so i just went on a regular screening and i was the only reason i was concerned is that i was maybe there'd be a dude dressed as Venom at the media screening. Was there one? I think there was a couple. I think there was the girl that had the half Venom face in makeup or prosthetics. But I didn't get a good look.

And I wanted to tear it off and see if it was Henry Cavill. Yeah, absolutely. Because there's always pranking. He's taking his pranking internationally. Do you think that's what he's doing? Yeah. Now that he's not Superman, or is he? Who knows?

Anyway, the critical consensus is not good. It's something like 28% on Rotten Tomatoes. Not that that means anything to anybody. But generally, fans have been pretty positive on it. But maybe they didn't know what the story was. When in fact, Mason, one of us knew what the story was at the very least. That'd be you. What do you think the story was, Mason? one of us knew what the story was at the very least. Ah, all right. That'd be you. What do you think the story was, Mason?

Say to Brock. Yep. You know, because he's like, I'm in Brock. I'm in Jonas. Yeah. But he can't. He's no nonsense. Or is he?

He's taking no prisoners. Or is he? And he just wants to do the right thing. Or does he? And he just wants to tear down the powerful. Or does he? But he wants to tear down the powerful or does he yeah and but he's loyal or is he and then he gets infected by an alien in terms of development or does he no he does he does definitively that's one thing we know about that character yeah what

did you think i'm i just saw it like i saw it's it's 10 o'clock now. I saw it at four. Yeah, right. So I've only had a few hours to digest it. I don't know. Yeah, I saw it like five days ago. Yeah. Is this movie any good? It's not good. I wouldn't say it's not good.

Yeah. But there are elements in it that are fun and made unintentionally or not. I can't tell what of this is supposed to be. Have we spoken about, apparently according to Tom Hardy, they took out 40 minutes, 40 minutes of, we're taking out and they,

all the stuff they took out was his favorite parts. Yeah. He hasn't elaborated on that, but I think what they took out was act two. I think, I think all of act two is gone because he's like, cause he gets the powers of venom and he's like, well, I do the right thing. I'll do the right thing.

I'm going to do it. Or will he? He does immediately. He does, yeah, immediately. It felt to me a bit like. And Venom's like, if I can, do we spoil it? I don't know. Do you want to just spoil from the start?

No, let's, okay, well, let's, we can do this non-spoiler. Okay. But there's a, I don't know. But there's a lot of like... Look, we all know he gets the Venom symbiote, obviously. He gets the Venom symbiote and then... Symbiote. Symbiote.

I don't know what it is. Let's say symbiote. They actually switch it up in the movie. I was going to say. And someone actually tweeted in that some of the dialogue from the trailer was swapped. Like they ADR'd it to fix it. Yeah. Well, anyway, so he gets the symbiote and he's like oh what's

going on and then like 10 minutes later he's having full conversations with yes this this alien that knows full you know it knows idioms and it knows slang and it knows swear words yeah and it can read his mind but it can't read his mind yeah and it like can come out and talk to him like a little puppet but then it doesn't sometimes it just talks in his mind, but it can't read his mind. Yeah. And like. You can come out and talk to him like a little puppet. But then it doesn't. Sometimes it just talks in his head. Yeah. But like, it just went from zero to a hundred in five minutes.

It's pretty boring for the first 30 minutes. Yeah, right. Or kind of nothing. Yeah. And then it kind of goes a bit insane, but also kind of reels back in in places because of the R-rated. There's, I mean, they talk about how it talk about how he's biting off heads in this, but you can't really tell for a lot of it.

They kind of, when he's biting. I mean, I think sometimes they're even like, you bit that guy's head off. Yeah. In case you didn't know. There's no chomp, and then we see a headless body fall to the ground. There's a chomp and a cut. Yes. There's also aomp and a cut. Yes.

You know, so. There's also a moment, and it's towards the end, where he bites off somebody's head. And then the mask comes off Venom, and Tom Hardy is chewing. Yeah. So I guess he ingests human flesh as well. I had a conversation with that the other day. I said, I'm probably going to go see Venom. And they said, I've always wondered, does Venom, does the man in the suit eat the stuff as well? And I guess he does. I mean, I'm sure the symbiote absorbs it. Yeah. Although I've got an Easter does Venom, does the man in the suit eat the stuff as well?

And I guess he does. I'm sure the symbiote absorbs it. Although I've got an Easter egg video on my channel. You can check it out now, Mason. Maybe I will. Yeah. But you know what? I likened this to Punisher Warzone, but I think Punisher Warzone is more intentionally

goofy and over the top than this is. Yes. Yeah. I'd imagine it's kind of also Spirit of Vengeance, which I haven't seen. Is that, as you're saying, is that deliberately over the top the second ghost rider movie yeah i mean it is i assume it's not that over the top that movie no isn't it no because i know you're a fan yeah i like that movie but it's not i oh really okay i thought it was like nick cage crazy ah it's more no ghost rider 2 is more self-aware. Right.

Because he's like peeing fire and stuff. Cool. And he's like, it's awesome when I pee fire. Isn't it though? That would burn. Tom Hardy's performance. I thought he was good. I mean, when he does the dual roles.

Yeah, right. I think he pulls that off well and it's convincing that he's talking to himself and he's got this entity in him. Right. He's really given it 100%. Maybe even 140% if you believe that 40 minutes were cut out of it. But what did you think of that? I think he's pretty good. He's better in scenes with better actors.

There's scenes where he's with Michelle Williams as the love interest and I think... I thought she was a bit flat. Yeah, I also think... Here's the thing. I think she was... As I understand it, she did this one for the paycheck. And I feel she's not giving it 100%. But I think when Tom Hardy's in a room with somebody who's like an Oscar nominee or whatever,

I think he's like, well, I better raise my game right up. I'm going to do it, I'm going to Tom Hardy. And so I think he's better, and I think he's very good in those scenes. And she's kind of like, okay, what am I saying in this? Yeah. All right, you've got a parasite and it's a thing, whatever. My boss. I'm just a lawyer.

I'm just hardworking. Yeah, yeah. Okay, that's fair. But there's also like there, because he's got the love interest, there seems to be some missing relationship in there. This got hacked. Yeah, because there's, you know, she's a character that believes in him 100%. They're going to get married because, you know she she's a character that believes in him a hundred percent

they're gonna get married because you know he's a loose cannon but he's a man of his word and she loves him no matter what actually no she doesn't all of a sudden bang well what happened in the middle yeah you know absolutely yeah it was a bit and there's no explanation as to why i think we should just do spoilers okay cool uh uh god how do we rank this then i don't want to say it's just a movie i didn't hate it yeah like i was way better than i thought it was gonna be but it's really it's pretty average like a lot of it's like there were moments where i'm like that's interesting and something yep but then a lot of it's just... Would you see another one? I would see another one.

Probably, yeah. But I would expect the next one to be way better than this. It would have to be. Yeah. You take the elements of this. I think the wackiness of this works. One bit that I thought was really funny, when he escapes the facility after he gets the Venom symbiote initially,

he runs out and he just runs straight into a fence. And through it. It looks, you think he's going to jump through the fence, jump over the fence, but he just goes through the fence. Runs straight into it. Yeah. Yeah. That's pretty funny.

And I enjoyed that a lot. Yeah. And the post-credits is very funny. Yeah, but unintentionally. Unintentionally, yeah. That's why I mean i'm like what is this yeah what part of this is supposed to be funny i mean there's a bit with like a lobster tank which is clearly supposed to be funny yeah but i don't i don't know you know

what it felt like to me is it felt like the sam raimi spider-man movies but with more grit over the top like more grind like i think i've spoken about, I think maybe even last week, I spoke about the Sam Raimi Spider-Man movies a couple of weeks ago where I look at those movies and they feel kind of unfinished. Yeah. Like there'll be a school and the notice board is blank because they were like, well, nobody's going to look at that. And they just filled it with 30-year-olds.

Exactly, yeah. But say Spider-Man Home homecoming you get that notice board and they fill it with real notices and whatever and just fill with easter eggs and it's it looks like if you would walk into that you would assume it was a real classroom kind of thing yeah this movie feels a little bit it feels like the sam raimi movies in terms of dialogue and plot and whatever it feels like it's pretty simplistic it feels simplistic it feels like it feels like the script is from years ago. Yes.

And they've filmed it now. Yeah, okay, that's fair. So I think some of it works and some of it feels kind of hokey. Maybe it's a bit John Travolta, Thomas Jane Punisher. Yeah, it is a little, yeah. Maybe that's what it is. Yeah, I think it feels like this is an old script and they just went, we've got it, we'll film it now.

I mean, there's not a lot that relies on it being written now. It could have been written 10 years ago. No. I mean, he's vlogging. That's his job. Is he vlogging or is that coming to TV? I don't think it was a TV show, was it? No, I think that was on TV.

Okay, right. I guess they had a big TV camera. They did have a big TV camera. Okay, you're right. I don't want to give it best but i didn't hate it yeah this is a real batman v superman situation really is isn't it no it's not the movie's terrible it's like it's okay it's like in the punisher that movie's fine for a lot of it but then he fights giant popeye and it's amazing. And it's kind of like that. Yeah.

But like, there's just a bit out of the blue that's like, Jesus Christ. I'm going to say worst movie ever. I'm going to have to go with you on that. Yeah. But I didn't hate it. I also didn't hate it. But I would see a sequel. Yeah.

Like anyway, spoilers. Spoilers. I liked that the boyfriend of his ex-fiancee- Was not a dick? Just not a dick for no reason. Yeah. And wasn't revealed to be a dick later. No, he was just a nice, helpful man. Just a nice man, yeah.

Uh-huh, yeah. Where should we go with this? Okay, let's see. So the final battle sequence was just Venom fighting another Venom. That was not interesting. I mean, it was short. They didn't fight each other for that long, which was good. And I understand that it's two symbiotes from the same planet,

so they would have similar powers. Okay. This asteroid, right, that's flying through space. Apparently had millions of... They got four or whatever. They got four, right? Okay, so this asteroid, was it passing Earth? Where was it?

And presumably it kept going. So they get the symbiotes off it. Then they come back to Earth. And then at the end he's like, I'm just going to get back to that asteroid, am I? I'm just going to go back to this asteroid that's hurtling through space. I'm just going to fly back to it and just grab some more. Just grab all a million and bring them to Earth. Yeah, right.

I'm not sure what was supposed to happen there. It's a bit vague what was the plan he didn't did he have could he fit a million of those on his ship and i feel it also really ramped like it went from nowhere to this well i'm gonna go and bring millions of aliens to earth and destroy it all yeah that went just with this thing that i've just met yeah this monster that's attached itself to me uh-huh yeah to what end right exactly like why would he want that i guess he was infected but it also felt like that they're very much two separate entities yeah when you've got a symbiote yeah you've just got it's like having another person

in your head okay the good i like the the the scene where venom fights the SWAT team yep but it went on way too long. And also, I think, you know, actually, I liked individual shots of what was happening in that fight with the SWAT team. Like where he crushes the gas canister. He crushes the tear gas and he eats a tear gas thing and whatever.

Yeah. But it was just, there was so much of him leaping about and swinging about and dropping stuff. He's bulletproof. Yeah. Like he's not indestructible, but there's nothing they've got that can harm him. Why did the fight go on?

I've got like sonic, I don't think by accident they're setting off grenades that kind of affect him. They were like flash grenades, but they didn't seem to be, they didn't really seem to affect him. No. So I feel it was an oddly staged fight

because why does he keep leaping around? He could have just, especially if it's, that's Venom... He could stand there and then a hundred tendrils could kill them all. Yeah, he's also there.

He's also right in the spot before Eddie Brock's like, you shouldn't kill these people. It's odd to me that he didn't just kill them all straight away. Yeah, right. Yeah.

Because he doesn't kill bad people or he does, or good people. I'm not sure. There was a lot of also... I felt, Carlton Drake, the villain. Who I didn't mind. He was all right, I guess. Yeah.

He was really cavalier about opening and closing those containers with the aliens in it. How'd they get them back in? That's what I'm saying. And he killed a couple just by opening it and then not putting it back in. And then they come in and they're like, oh, this one's dead. You only got four? Yeah. You fucking idiot.

Yeah. Don't just let them out. Yeah. Like the one that he sets off on, what's her name from? Ginny Slate. Yeah. As he's leaving, he's like, open it up.

He wasn't even out the door. And he's like, It could have jumped on him. Yeah, it could have. Yeah, it's true. Also, I don't understand the relationship with humans, these things, because they would eat you from the inside

unless you were a good match, but being a match meant if it liked you? Yeah, I don't know. Because it was killing him. Yeah. Right? Until it decided not to kill him. Venom was.

Yeah. No, basically, because he was hungry, I think his internal metabolism was consuming eddie brock that's why he had to bite people's heads off no i understand that right but what about the other ones were they an actual match like does he not because he's like i like you i'm gonna hang around with you i think the one no i think the ones i think they it had to be two things that had to be a dna match and if it wasn't a dna match it had just they just explode like the first guy exploded out of him but sometimes it was like this one's syncing up really well and then three match and if it wasn't a dna match it had just they just explode like the first guy just exploded

out of him but sometimes it was like this one's syncing up really well and then three days later it's like no he's dead because then because that one because that one would consume their organs they hadn't figured it out okay so i think that that checks out okay it all checks out it all checks out doesn't it i'm completely wrong yeah but it did did feel like... A lot of it felt like an early superhero movie in the sense that it was like, hey, I'm vulnerable to sonics and fire. Yeah. I'm just letting you know just straight up.

That's your kryptonite. Yes. Those are my kryptonites, as in weaknesses. Because, like, again, so he went from just... He had, you know, he was just feeling gross. Yep. And then five minutes later, like, Venom's calling him a pussy and whatever. And he's like, I know everything about you.

I'm in your head or whatever. And then he gets a phone call from his girlfriend. And Venom's like, who's that? Shouldn't you know? Are you in his head or not? Not? I guess. Yeah.

Did you like the bit where he kissed him? Yep. The lady Venom? Lady Venom., I guess. Yeah. Did you like the bit where he kissed him? Yep. The lady venom? Lady venom. She venom? Yeah. It's a weird moment. Yeah.

Yeah, okay. Here's a weird thing that I thought was weird. So Tom Hardy was pretty cool and casual about walking around and showing people that he had mutant magic space powers and he'd bite people's heads off in convenience stores where presumably there was cameras. Side note, he was also very cavalier about running around with all this evidence

that the corporation was doing bad things, but never thought to email it to anybody. No, he didn't do that. Just email it to your boss. What are you doing? He didn't have a boss, Mason. Email it to anyone. It doesn't matter.

Email it to everybody, literally anyone. Put it on Reddit. Just put it on Reddit. Put it up on YouTube. It doesn't matter. Put it on the Planet Put it on Reddit Just put it on Reddit Put it up on YouTube It doesn't matter Put it on the Planet Broadcasting Great Mates group Yes Yeah

Or Facebook Yeah But at the end He's just living in the same neighbourhood Where he was always living The police know who he is Yep A lot of people know he's Venom

He's just revealing it to everybody Uh huh What are you doing? I also like that when he broke When his girlfriend broke it off with him He immediately He moved to like a different part of new york where it was always nighttime and dirty and he had a dead plant that he couldn't keep alive i thought that was fun also what i did enjoy is that apparently in new york they still advertise dishwashing positions like in the newspaper this was san francisco san francisco yeah right yeah we know that because there was a bloody

trolley cars and uh and they say it yeah they say it and there was some kick to sneak on the uh what's a kick to sneak he's a rapper from the bay area i knew that i didn't know that okay they do kind of work in his new york origin where he's like you got fired from your last job and he's like well yeah that was an incident and so they kind of work in that Sin Eater story roughly. Do you think this works without Spider-Man? It doesn't. Well, I think kind of, but now it won't work with Spider-Man. No, you can't put him in there. Because why would the Venoms,

his entire history with Spider-Man is they both hate him with a passion. Yeah. And everything from that to, you know, any kind of modern reconciliation they've had, or, you know, he's come to terms with the fact that Spider-Man's a good guy and now he'll be an anti-hero or whatever. And the fact that the next one's Flash and the next one is, you know, the Scorpion or whatever.

Yeah. None of that works now. No. Because it's just going to be a guy he meets. I guess you could have this symbiote leave him and go to Spider-Man. Right. And then it comes back to him, I guess. There's also, I think, we're going all over the place,

but I think that's fine. That's this movie, Madison. That is this movie. I think they reused a couple of the shots where the symbiote jumps out of the containers. The container? Like flipped it or something? Not even flipped it.

I think when it leaps out, when it comes out of the container and kills the first guy, and when it comes out of the container and kills Jenny Slate, they're the same shots okay exactly i don't believe you okay it might be believe it okay i believe you yeah that's good um also i thought it was odd that you know i think i mentioned this earlier that that michelle williams character is like oh i love you we're gonna get married and i you're a loose cannon but everything you do is really important one that he would just go and read her email and yeah and and expect expect that nobody would figure that out yeah like how maybe he didn't care i guess that was

the point yeah but then why is he stuck around to this point and also it wasn't even good journalism no he just brought it to him. He wasn't like, this is the evidence. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I have it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was just like,

what do you think of this? And he's like, I deny it. And then he got fired. And also, yeah. What are you doing? And also in that scene... What do you think was going to happen? He's got that...

He's got that fake chumminess. Yeah. Like, if anybody ever comes up to me and he's like, hey, we're just going to talk about your rockets or whatever. I'll be like, where is this going

this is a trap and I'm not falling for it that's what the door to door I had a door to door guy the other day they're the worst but also

as soon as he does this he gets fired and she gets fired and she's like I'm out of here that's it no more like

you're not gonna talk about this at all come on he crossed one too many lines this one time this one time he did did you like the bit where he ate lobsters i did apparently that was improv'd oh and had to get a plastic lobster and everything huh yeah then it wasn't that improv'd was it well i mean that they could they would have rung it i don't know how it worked all right what do you want i'm not sure whether the venom needed heads or he needed potatoes he

needed live food. Yeah, but then he also would have like... He would also like potatoes. See, that's a... I believe that's a throwback. And he had chocolate? Yeah, I believe that's a throwback to the late 90s version of Venom where he'd been PG-ified in the comic books so much

that he was just eating chocolate. His weakness, he could be subdued by eating chocolate. Speaking of, there's a Caravan of Garbage coming up this week where Mason recounts a classic late 90s Venom tale. And boy, is it. What do you think of the story? It's bad. One of the worst.

It's coming up this week. I'll be on Patreon early. What else we got here? Okay. The post-credits. Yep. I mean, I understand the inclusion of carnage, but it was an awful wig and an awful sequence with awful dialogue.

Everyone laughed. Yes. Everyone in the cinema I was at laughed. Bob wig. Look, I know for a fact there were some people. He's too old for that hair. I know for a fact there were some people in the cinema who were aware of Spider-Man stuff

because as I was sitting out the front waiting for the cinema to open, some teens walked past and one of them said, hey, that's a guy who does a podcast I listen to. Really? Not their favorite podcast. Did he talk to you or he just said that in passing? He could have been talking to anybody. Talking about anybody. It doesn't matter.

Anyway, so I know there were some people on board. Yeah. And I know there was, I'm guessing there were some people that weren't, but there were some people that are on board, but everybody was like, ha ha ha. Why is Woody Harrelson got that hair? Yes.

Just have him be bald. Just have him be bald. That's how Woody Harrelson look. Or how about just like a, like a crew cut. Yep. Red hair crew cut. No Mason, comic accurate.

Some of the time. That doesn't, it's not even what his hair looks like. No, it's not. It's not. Yeah. Yeah.

Yuck. Weird. And then the line, when I get out of here, it's not. It's not. Yeah. Yuck. Weird. And then the line, when I get out of here, it's going to be carnage. Yeah. Anyway, thanks for coming for this interview. That is over now. Yeah. See, and that's also because it was...

I feel like maybe that... This movie is bad. It is bad. I'm glad we gave it Worst Movie Ever. I... That scene at the end, I feel, was a microcosm for the whole movie right because he goes like hey do you want me to skip the whole serial killer thing like it was kind of self-aware yeah i'm not going to be the same but then it it just fell in the cat it fell in a cliche anyway eddie brock's gonna like he's gonna leave a seed do you think do you think yeah do you think venom'som's going to give birth in that?

Who knows? I don't know. I mean, Eddie Brock could get arrested because everyone knows he's Venom. Maybe that's, yeah. What a dumb, dumb saying. Yeah. I think without the wig, I think it would work on some level. Maybe they'll take the wig out for the home video release.

Why is he obsessed with Eddie Brock anyway? The carnage. Yeah, because he's just like scratching his name. Is that what he was writing? Yeah. Wasn't he writing that? No, I think he was writing something else. Like a sonnet?

He was writing a sonnet, yes. Okay, great. A lot of people have said that this could be a contender for the Gamers On Award because it does ham-fistedly set up a sequel. Yes. But I think this isedly set up a sequel. Yes. But I think this is going to get a sequel. Yeah. So does that award only count if...

No, I feel the attempt is what counts. Whether or not we get one... I thought it was ham-fisted but failed. Oh, I see. Right, right, right. On money alone, this will get a sequel. Yeah, right. And I think a lot of people are pretty kind of surprised that it's not the worst.

Like us. Yeah, right? I really didn't dislike it. It was kind of fun and dumb. I think our attitudes will change over the course of a few days. But I saw it on Wednesday and yeah i'm still like i hated did i but have you so you've gone back and forth yeah right interesting because there's some really kind of great dumb stuff in this movie think of another great dumb thing in it can't see the bit

where he runs up the building as venom yep i guess a bit where they have a symbiote battle and it's just black spaghetti spilling all over the place. But that's not good, it's bad. What's another good bit of this movie? I like the bit where they take the symbiote off him in the hospital and then he just runs out the door and then they close the glass doors and they're like, that'll get it. Oh, where did it go? Did it get out one of the many holes in this room?

I was kind of hoping after that, when he's about to be killed by the security guys in the forest, that he was saved by Venom Dog. I was really hoping that it was going to be a dog. No, they didn't do that. No. But why would they? When they've got sexy Venom Lady.

Exactly. It was also from the comics. It's in my Easter egg video. Anyway, do you think this could work in the MCU? I think there's enough left vague that they could fold it in, but I don't think Disney will do it. They don't need it. No.

They don't need this hassle. No. And I think, again, I think if they had made it implicitly tied to the Spider-Man universe somehow, then I think there would be a scope. And there are links there. Yeah. But, yeah. But I think if they were like, if they were somehow tied

to Spider-Man's origin, then they could. But in this case, I feel it's not so much could they do it, it's what what's the point of them doing this? Yeah, right. Do we need a Venom in this? Although I'd like maybe to see Venom in a universe where he's fighting people that aren't CGI monsters or whatever.

Well, too bad. Yeah, it's too bad, isn't it? That's all we're going to get in these movies. The sequel is going to be... Also, what are those symbiotes doing out on that asteroid? These are all questions. They're just... Because he's like, I'm kind of a loser in my home world.

I don't know. So what's the difference? Also, does it have an atmosphere, this asteroid? I mean, I guess it does because they can't survive in oxygen-rich environments. Oh, and here's one more thought. Why did Venom change his attitude at all? Because he's like...

Just because it was in his head and he was nice. Because he's like, I came here to destroy your whole planet. Oh, because he was a loser. But now I'm not gonna. Because I was a loser, but now I'm cool. Is that why? Yep.

I think that was it. Is Venom smart or an idiot? An idiot. He is an idiot. That's what I thought. Yeah, okay. Just checking. Yeah.

What a film. Oh. Got some reviews here from Dan. Okay. The man. I saw Venom. I think it was okay. Probably better than Justice League.

Is there a question mark there? Yes, there is. Great. Probably better than Justice League. Pacing was the worst part. Sexy Venom was weird. Could definitely see that there was once a good movie in there that I'd rather be watching. Charlie Newman says, I thought Venom would be bad, but it was actually a ton of fun and

I enjoyed it immensely. Witch Brow says, just saw Venom. Good action. He's yawning at the time. Didn't say it like that. Just good action since it's Tom Hardy's performance. Not enough to save the movie from being meh worst movie ever

sexy Matt said just saw Venom unsurprisingly it was bad but the game was is on but is the game on sorry and Keith Barnes says

I can't believe this but I didn't hate the movie it's not good but I somehow didn't hate it fair enough yeah what do you got

isn't that interesting yeah it has to be if they do a sequel it's got to be way better than this. Yeah, I agree. Otherwise, it's going to be like an Amazing Spider-Man 2, where they get cocky.

Yeah, yeah. To this movie's credit, it's not all, this is the next film, which is what the Amazing Spider-Man was. That's true, yeah. What were you going to say there? I can't remember. No, I can't remember.

Yeah, it seemed like you're going to have something a little bit to say. It was really, really poignant and relevant. Very good. Guess we'll never know then. That's a shame. But you know what's not a shame? Yes. Letting everybody know what we're going to read.

Oh, what we are currently reading. Yes. I'm doing the theme. What are we reading today? I'm a couple of episodes... Wait, theme song? Yeah, I did it already. Oh, nice.

That's what I'm saying, theme song. Well, I always enjoy listening to it. Good. I'm a couple of episodes into Maniac on Netflix. Oh, the Jonah Hill and the Stone. Jonah Hill and the Stone. Is that good? Yeah, it's good.

Do you have to pay attention? You definitely have to pay attention. Oh, okay. Yeah, so it's good. Do you have to pay attention? You definitely have to pay attention. Oh, okay. Yeah. So it's those two both get introduced, both join a medical trial for a particular type of drug, both for different reasons.

Yep. And they've got bloody problems inside their minds and outside their minds. Oh, wow. And it's set in kind of a parallel universe now that is... Is it a bit eternal sunshine spotless a little bit eternal sunshine on the spotless mind um and it's sort of a it's it's a it's a it's the modern day but it's a slightly different world than ours right so like a lot of the technology seems to be stuck in the 80s but some of it like there's a uh in in this

world there's something called an ad buddy or if you don't have enough as an example if you don't have enough money to pay for like your train ticket a guy will show up and read ads to you as you take the train and you can't you have to pay attention to him to pay off the that's pretty good train ticket yeah impractical very impractical i like it yeah it's good though um legion-esque it is a little Legion-esque yeah is there a new season of that coming out soon

yeah probably nice unless Fox cancelled it or something which they may have yeah you know what we've got to watch for next week

Mason what's that the Halloween sequel is coming out I thought for next week and if people want to watch along with us that'd be great

I thought we could do Halloween 1 the original which this new one is a sequel to and skip everything else and do h20 okay just add water yeah just halloween h20 just add water and maybe two i might do two as well one and two all right uh but what do you think of that okay great sounds good yeah we're really gonna love us that's what i'm gonna be doing this week and other things i've got other commitments, obviously. Oh, of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm a busy boy, Mason. Well, yeah. Don't muck around. I'm going to grow this beard back. I was literally just going to say, you're going to need to conserve most of your energy for growing the beard back. It's true.

Yeah. Get plenty of sleep, drink plenty of water. All right. What is it the lettuce theme time? The lettuce theme is right here in my hot little hand. The classic one was Letters, oh letters We love you, some letters They're only a take away

I know they're here right now, we're going to do letters. You have a pained expression on your face, James. I was just thinking about the Venom review and I feel like if it was really bad or weirder it would have made for a better conversation. But just kind of like, why is this that? That bit was alright, wasn't it? That's that's what i hate man you know what i mean i think you said it last week it's either really great or really terrible yeah right and anything

in between is boring exactly if you want to reach to the show hashtag weekly planet pod on twitter and we'll give that a bloody readout also you can shoot an email over to mason at weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com. Maybe he's got one ready to go in three, two, one. I haven't. I could have cut you off, but I chose not to. I'm still looking. I can do a tweet. Oh, here's actually something that I have noted down for talking about this week

that a lot of people emailed in and mentioned on our Facebook group the planet broadcasting great mates yep last week in during our superhero showdown we uh talked about the avengers from the movie the avengers versus yes exactly versus the doesn't change it see it depends it might it might change it not movie thor no i think it depends so he's got the axe. No, I'm saying Avengers. I'm saying Avengers 1. No, but here's what I'm saying. Because we didn't even mention Thor.

No. I think it does potentially change it. So here's the proviso. If the Superman in Justice League is as vulnerable to magic as the Superman in the comic books. And if what Thor does is considered magic... Which it might not be. Which it could be, though. Because we don't know.

Because in the comic books, magic is magic. Yeah. But in Marvel, the magic that the Asgardians do is considered... It's a technology that is... Well is some of it is like but then what is loki he doesn't have microchips on him exactly right yeah i see what you're saying so it what what they have is magic is essentially it's some sort of shortcut in the universe yes to to do things that you couldn't that seemingly defy the laws of physics so what i'm saying is if that what he does is considered magic then he could totally clock Superman in one punch

one punch? a couple of punches Shazam can do it Shazam Captain Marvel can clock Superman in one punch so I mean it wouldn't necessarily kill him but he could sucker punch him and I'm saying

if those two provisos are true then that is a much more even fight okay I don't think it'd make it I thinkman is still faster than thor yeah i mean did you see when what's his name steppenwolf or the flash was trying to fight him yeah yeah it wasn't they weren't right i don't think i don't think thor could even hit him right then again batman hit him so that's what i'm talking about. And I think also I, I, I'm saying even Thor Avengers one could probably survive like a punch from

Superman. Right. Maybe not a whole bunch of them, but at least one. And then he's close enough. I'm saying it's a fair fight. If we remember that Thor exists, as we did last week.

Fairer, but not, I still think that I still don't think it would make a difference. I've got a tweet here, Mason. Yes. It's from Jake Lamont. This is about Black Mirror.

Did you hear whether there might be a Black Mirror choose your own adventure story and there's going to be episodes by the end of the year? Yes. Well, there is. Yeah, right. Hey, Mr. Sunday Movies and Wikipedia Brown, have you heard this?

Would you be interested in seeing something like it? So that's the thing that I just said then. Hashtag weekly planet pod. Are you interested in that or is it a gimmick has technology gone too far uh i mean it is a gimmick certainly but here's the thing it would i feel it would only work if you can only ever choose one okay and then you can never choose any again and if you tell anybody about your other the other endings you are are killed. Okay. Black mirror style. Like Black Mirror. Like in a black mirror.

Yeah, like in a black mirror. Yeah. That's not what it is. So aside from that, do you think it could work? Aside from those unrealistic stipulations you just put on it. Look, I think if anybody could figure out a way to make that kind of novel, probably they could. Okay. I would like to see it.

Yeah, sure. Look, they can only try. Here's the thing. they can only try here's the thing they can only try and fail that's right so and if it's not it's not every episode it's just the one i believe so if it's real and if it's tied in thematically why not what if it's not then it's stupid it's real stupid it's so stupid what if it's the one where uh you know, like it's a soldier and you think they're killing bad people, but actually maybe the government is the bad. Yes. Maybe.

Yes. You know what I mean? I love it. Yeah. What if the bees, but what if they don't like you? Then they, yeah. And the government also. Whoa.

All right. Wow. What do you got? I'm still looking. Oh, you. This one says Kerry Small and the title is from Kerry Small. It says trying to prove my wife wrong. All right. So let's see what it's saying. What do you got? I'm still looking. Oh, you. This one says Kerry Small, and the title is from Kerry Small. It says, trying to prove my wife wrong. All right.

So let's see what I'd say. What do we got? Okay. My wife doesn't really like the show. Strong opener. But I absolutely love it. Okay, better. Thank you, Kerry.

I've been listening for a long time, and I've been trying to get her to listen as well. Could you please try to convince her for me? Her name is Bree. B-R-E. Bree? Bray. Bray B-R-E. Bree? Brer. Brer. Listen, Brer.

Maybe you spelt it wrong. No, it's Brer. It's got to be Brer. Maybe it's supposed to be A. Maybe it's Brer or just Brer. No, I reckon it's Brer. Okay. No, Brer.

Yeah. Is it short for something? Like brevity? Oh, it could be short for brevity. That's very good. Very smart parents, Brer. It's a clever little Easter egg for brevity that's very good very smart parents bre it's a clever little easter egg for us here's what i think uh in a relationship yes you can just have like different stuff separate things separate things bre you don't have to listen to this yeah

yeah because bre you what you're absolutely correct in not liking the show. It's fine. We don't even like it. Sometimes we do. Yeah, no, if you want to listen to it, that's fine. But if you don't, I'm fairly certain nobody I know listens to it. I'm fairly confident. Every now and then someone's like, Yeah, I gave it a listen, it seems.

You seem like you're having a good time. I don't want you listening to it. You please don't. I get sometimes people like, I downloaded it and I didn't listen to it. Did that help? I'm like, no having a good time. I don't want you listening to it. If you don't like it, I get sometimes people like I downloaded it. I didn't listen to it. Did that help? I'm like, no,

not just, just don't doubt that. Yeah. It's fine. Yeah. My dad will share like, like that, that live pack show.

He put that up on his Facebook. I'm like, dad, you don't have to, I don't think any of your friends are going to come to this. It's fine. I mean, I appreciate it.

Imagine if they did. Yeah. Or your dad's mates. Yeah. yeah all of them as a group just to make fun of you yeah yeah incredible well you know maybe we could turn her around and i like what you like bray yeah yeah anyway i hope you enjoyed this fun riff on your name which may or may not be bray let us know mason will probably miss the email. I'll absolutely miss it. It might be the next email. I haven't seen it.

This is an unimaginative username. Where do you think Rocket Raccoon is going to be in Avengers 4? Part of me thinks he'll leave Earth, but I kind of want to see him team up with Tony Stark to build wacky gadgets. Hashtag Weepy Planet Pod. I want him to stick around. Who are we talking about? Rocket Raccoon. Yeah, right. On Earth. Yes. Okay. Because he's the only one left him to stick around. Who are we talking about? Rocket Raccoon. Yeah, right.

On Earth. Yes. Okay. Because he's the only one left. Yeah, right. Where's he going otherwise? Yeah. You know?

They're all dead. A lot of people are putting out theories as to how the Marvel Universe is going to now be reconfigured now that all the characters are dead. Sure. They're mostly coming back. Yes. I just wanted... Don't...

Except for Chris Evans. Yeah, he's definitely dead. Except for a few years few years yeah then again i've thought he was dead like for the last four movies yeah right yeah no i'd like to see him because what's interesting about just shooting him off into space and him not being around what's the point of keeping him alive make him i think you know it'd be fun make him like a celebrity okay yeah and he's like hey i'm a talking raccoon what do you think about his guns what do you think about that he would love that i feel he would love that because that that would be a fun because he's a cat he's a character who's always found he's thought he was different and he's you know he's never found acceptance anywhere yeah make him a tv star great i'm a

movie star yeah that'd be fun it's like mr squiggle he's like mr squiggle exactly he's from the moon everybody google mr squiggle yeah if you're not australian exactly otherwise make no sense you don't know what that is exactly is that it oh here's an email from roberto suarez okay uh and this is something i was going to mention earlier but i forgot to mention it i find it interesting that the plots for the movies upgrade and venom share certain similarities upgrades way better it really is and it features a tom hardy type yeah and he's way better and he's way better and the the look he's not they're both charming in their way but i think upgrade is structured way better yep and i feel like upgrade was built from the ground up

to be like, okay, this plot is going to go this way and the characters are going to act like this and then this turn is going to happen and then the characters are going to act like this and then there's another turn and that's it and at no point did... And we're mapping out this action scene like this, this and this. Exactly. I don't think at any point somebody said to Lee Whannell

who directed Upgrade, okay, you know, this is too long, so take this out. Yeah. Because then it would make no sense. And in Venom, they went, you know what? It's too long, take this out. Yeah. And so now we've got a character that jumps from A to D

without having B and C in the middle. Having met Lee Whannell, who's a friend of the show, a good friend of mine. Exactly, yeah. Also, his movie cost $3 to $5 million. Did it really? Yeah. I think he said it was a little bit more.

And Venom cost $100. Yeah, they look about the same. They look about the same. They look about the same. I mean, obviously Venom's got the CGI. $3 to $5 million. I think it was a little bit more. That is astounding.

Yeah. Even if it's $10 million or $20 million. Or $100 million. No, that's too much. Okay. But if it was even $20 million. I jumped in too far. You really did. I should have said $11 yes you really venomed this you really venomed the

development of this conversation you went too far all right i think that's everything is it you're absolutely right it is it is very similar and it's it's kind of awkward that venom got out venom by a movie that wasn't venom featuring a guy who looks a lot like Tom Hardy. I mean, Venom did better critically. Not critically, commercially. Commercially, right. But it also got a wider release and a bigger marketing push. And it's also a known character. Also, I'm guessing Upgrade has made its money back, at least.

Yeah, I would say so. Uh-huh. Yeah. Anyway, is that the show I'm most excited about? How about this? Lee Whannell, Venom 2. Yeah. Direct that.

Absolutely. Or make an Upgrade 2. Or another movie that he wants to make hey Willie Winnell if you're out there he's a mate of mine yeah

tell him to make another movie I'll shoot him a text we talk are you thinking about making him another movie you should make

another movie I think you should too yes very good he's a friend of mine I met him yeah I get it is that the show

that's the show I think yeah okay if you want to contact us well thanks for listening, first of all. Yeah. That's great.

Five years. Even if you're Brett and you hate it. Five bloody years. We said this last week, Mason. It's five years in one week, so it's not that big of an achievement. That's true. Yeah, not anymore. Six years.

No, six years doesn't count. Ten years. Ten years. I'll be 40. You'll be dead. No, I'll be 30. You'll be 22. Yeah.

I'll be 27.'ll be 22 yeah I'll be 27 27 okay great let me think thanks for everybody for listening subscribing telling your friends yep

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And we're going to kick back. Or just buy anything you were going to buy on Amazon anyway. Yeah, that'd be great. Get it delivered by a drone. Yep. So exciting. Straight to your pocket. Ah, so good.

Yeah. That's about it, I reckon. Yeah, next week Halloween something. Yes. Does that mean we're going to watch the new Halloween? Yes, Mason. Nice. Not this Ah, so good. Yeah. That's about it, I reckon. Yeah, next week, Halloween something. Yes. Does that mean we're going to watch the new Halloween? Yes, Mason. Nice.

Not this week, but soon. Okay, soon. Soon, yeah. Terrifico. I know. Terrifico. Anyway, thanks for listening. Grabbed our jam, you guys.

We'll see you next week. Goodbye, EO. Is that your new catchphrase? Trying it out. Okay. Is it good? You've been texting me great guns a lot.

Have I? Yes. Is that a catchphrase? Is it your? You've been texting me great guns a lot. Have I? Yes. Is that a catchphrase? It's like great guns. That's great. Oh, is that? It's a thing. Okay.

Let me check if that's a thing. I've been saying it in a different way. Where have you been saying it? Great guns. I don't know if it's anything. All right. Okay, good. All right.

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