The Weekly Planet - 259 The State Of Marvel Television

Episode Date: November 5, 2018

Visit https://www.harrys.com/weeklyplanet for a free trial set. (of razors!)This week we reflect on the state of television linked to the MCU in light of news of the Bucky and Falcon Disney streaming show. We also get into the weirdest trailer possible ever released, news on Bad Boys 3, the first look at The Witcher and Game of Thrones season 8, Ewan McGregor as Black Mask, Flash Gordon, The Time Machine and Gladiator returning, Avatar sequel updates as well as a Star Wars hot scoop! Thanks for listening.Marvel's Biggest Gamble: https://t.co/8O88MbStid0:00 The start of the show5:25 Spies In Disguise trailer8:15 Bad Boys 4 Lyf12:10 Ewan McGregor as Black Mask16:10 GOT BROS 201918:59 The Witcher first look22:57 Star Wars Hot Scoop33:08 The Time Machine remake35:53 Avatar sequel names40:20 Gladiator 2 moving forward45:51 Flash Gordon bu again49:39 Bucky & Falcon TV series55:42 The State Of Marvel TV1:29:02 What We Reading/What We Gonna Read1:35:36 Letters It’s Time For LettersAmazon affiliate link: https://amzn.to/2oQConrThe Weekly Planet YouTube Channel: https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHFind out T-Shirts here: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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This episode is brought to you by Harry's Razors. Fushing! Fushing. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of the Weekly Planet, where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday, with me. This is my co-host, Nick Mason.

I'm here. That's right. Time to podcast. Thank you to everybody who ordered the Mr. Coyle shirts. They're arriving. The special Weekly Planet shirts. They are arriving. People are sending us wonderful photos.

People are looking good. Some people ask, can you still get them? No. It's done. Maybe next year if we do another one. But yeah, so yeah, thank you for the patience because obviously they had to get orders and everything and then go and get them made and then send them out.

It's a whole process. But what a shirt. I got one as well. I bloody love it. You already had one. You had the first. I did have the first one. Did you sign it because then it was worth even more?

No, it'd be worth even less. Oh, no. Yeah. Okay, so you did sign it. Yeah. Good. Can I sign it also? I guess, yeah.

Great. So yeah, thanks to those people. It's great. It's been really a nice thing for people to do. And thanks to everybody. We should have done this last week, but I just remembered today. Thanks to everybody who donated to the Care Australia campaign. Yes.

Because we got up to $47,000. We all did, collectively. Collectively as a team. And the lovely people from Care Australia, or not all of them, two of them came out to the show we did at PAX, gave us a nice little plaque, which we'll put a picture up of, for all the people who gave us $47,000,

which is the most by like seven grand that we've ever... Ever raised, yeah. Which is incredible. Yeah. So well done, everybody, and I guess we'll do it again

next year. What do you mean you guess? Like, we have to do it again, don't we? Yes. It's the only thing that's keeping us out of hell. Exactly, that's right. Hang on, I'll just check on the list of all the bad things I'm going to do in 2019.

Yeah, you want to make sure it's less than $47,000 worth. Exactly, yeah. I think the dog's at the door. I'll get the dog. All right, cool. While you're doing that, Mason, just want to let everybody still know that Claire's Just Make the Thing, my wife's podcast live show that's happening in Melbourne. I'm sorry, who?

Claire, my wife, Claire. Do it in a funny voice. I feel it's retro now. I think you can do it again. Okay, cool. Yeah, baby. Nice. I had a thought this week that there's nothing better than a really, like a totally dead-eyed,

affectless, just reciting somebody's catchphrase. Like, yeah, totally shagadelic, baby. It's my favorite thing. Yeah, it's really good, right? Yeah, yeah. So myself will be on the panel because we're talking about just making stuff in general, whether that be a business, a creative endeavor, whatever, a side hustle, a main thing, whatever. Dave and Jess Warnicke will also be on the panel.

Dave and Jess Warnicke, that famous married couple. That's right, that famous couple. Jess Berkens and Dave Warnicke from Do Go On. Yeah. So it's got- No, their combined name is Jess Warnicke. That's right. It's in Melbourne at some bar in the city, isn't it, mate?

Howler. In Brunswick. In Brunswick on the 9th of December. Come along. Tickets are pretty cheap from memory. And if you enter podcastdog in the promo, you get a bloody discount on that. And just hang around after if you want.

Have a bloody beer and a chat. It's a real nice place, yeah. Because it's not going to be a balls-to-the-wall, all-out show. I don't think so, anyway. It's going to be a pretty low-key event, so hang around. I would like to think that it is.

You and Claire will get there, and before the show starts, she'll sit you down backstage, and she'll be like, now listen, James, this is going to be balls to the walls. Because, look, you don't know this, but the Just Make the Thing live shows, they're balls to the wall, mate. Here's your jewel-wielding T-shirt cannons. You'll need those for the show. Yeah.

No, but it's going to be a lot of fun. I mean, everybody on that panel is great. I like to think of the Just Make the Thing live show as like a Rammstein concert. Yeah.

Here's a big faux penis that's going to shoot fire. James, that's for you. And you might get work off and come down as well. Is that right? I hope so, yeah. Something like that, yeah.

No promises there, though. No, that's right. Yeah, excellent. work off and come down as well is that right I hope so something like that no promises there though that's right my schedule's tight that's right I texted you earlier today and I'm like hey I'm just on my way now it might be a little bit late

and you were like oh that's fine I'm just going to have a shower and I'm like that is a dedication to the form that's that I I've never said that before

I feel like I came back from the gym I was soaked in sweat, Mason. Oh, my goodness. I just think that if our positions were reversed, if you came to my house to record the podcast, I'd just do it from bed. Like, I wouldn't get up to let you in.

I would give you a key. You could have a spare key. And then you would just come in and just put a microphone on the other pillow and just tap me and be like I had his new set photos from Spider-Man Far From Home and I'd be like pretty good I reckon. I think when we first got this couch you tried to do it lying down you're like I'm gonna do this lying down and it wasn't as if this this could get any easier to do.

That's true well I think we mentioned last I was on last week's episode of Serious Issues and Levens and I recorded it on the floor upstairs at PAX

because all the couches were taken so we're just like we'll record it on the floor where's the harm and your legs fall asleep very quickly yeah no good

it's because all the blood rushes to your brain for podcasting and then your legs go numb yeah and your legs get whittled and drained. That's right.

Mason, there was the craziest trailer I've ever seen this week. Yes. Will Smith's Spies in Disguise. Also featuring Tom Holland. Also featuring Tom Holland. So basically it starts as it's kind of the Incredibles. He's kind of in his prime Mr. Incredible, super spy, super slick. He's got a gliding suit, but also he can fly independently of that, it seems, at the start of the trailer.

Right. Because remember, he drops out of the helicopter and then he just shoots off, but it doesn't look like the wingsuit. Right, okay. And you see he's cutting glass and doing barrel rolls and doing karate chops, stepping into a car with an explosion behind him. You've really leant very hard into this trailer. This has fascinated you all week, I think, this trailer.

It has. Look, if you haven't seen it, I'm about to spoil it, but just go and watch it. All right. It's called Spies in Disguise. Spies in Disguise. It's animated. Is it DreamWorks?

Something like that. I think it's 20th Century Fox. Yeah, right. Anyway, after all that, it just hard cuts to Will Smith is a pigeon. He's been transformed using tom a little scientist tom holland's super science he's been turned into a pigeon yeah do you think that's the whole movie i don't know it can't be because are they going to turn him into other things no i think i think maybe that i would hope also why do i care about this movie but i would i i want to see will smith's animated

super spy nick fury style super spy i don't want to see him waddling about as a pigeon that's not interesting do you ever see the movie valiant where ewan mcgregor's a world war ii carrier pigeon or something anyway i have it but it didn't look good is that animated yes i was gonna say wouldn't it be great if... Because, you know, sometimes they do... Yeah, you want to put him in the Pluck-A-Duck suit. There's a local reference that everybody should Google. You want to do it live action, and you want to do it really bad green screen.

He perceives himself as... Everybody sees him as a pigeon, but he perceives himself as just a tiny Ewan McGregor. He could definitely do bad green screen. He has before. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. So what this trailer is missing is a scene where he meets with Tom Holland and Tom Holland goes, listen, I've got the idea to turn you into the ultimate spy.

No one will ever spot you. And then he turns into a pigeon. It just hard cuts into a pigeon. Like there's no buildup. He's just a pigeon. He's a super spy. And then he's a pigeon. And there's nothing build-up. He's just a pigeon. He's a super spy, and then he's a pigeon. And there's nothing in between that.

And then there's, like, another Pepe Le Pew-style pigeon who falls in love with him immediately, which is pretty good. I bet that pigeon gets turned into a woman at the end. Ooh. I bet that happens. A brain-damaged woman? Yes.

Oh, no. But I think... Here's the thing, though. You're bloody talking about it, aren't you? I am, yeah. You're talking about this movie. I mean, I'm not going to see it. Yeah, I think you will, just to see how the super spider pigeon transition happens.

No, I won't. I think you are fired up about this. They'll spoil it in the next trailer anyway. Yeah, that's probably true. Here we go, Mason. You know me and you, we have a motto. We ride together, we die together. Absolutely, yeah.

Bad boys for life. We know that, right? We've got those tattoos. Speaking about bad boys for life. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. It is happening. Will Smith and Martin Lawrence

are back on board. Are they too old for this? Are they both too old for this now? Because one of them was... Maybe one... Was one of them too old for the last one? That's a good question.

Anyway, I fucking hate these movies. No, I've only seen the second one and I think it's terrible. Yep. What do you think? I just went over to... My mum and dad are moving house and I went over to

where I'm like a huge pile of stuff that I've been dumping as I've moved houses over the years and I dug out some old DVDs and one of them

was Bad Boys 1 and 2 and I threw it away just before and then this announcement came up and I'm like should I not throw that away and watch them again? No.

You're okay. I think I will watch before this comes out I will watch the first one, but I am not watching that second one again. It goes forever. And then they go to Cuba for 40 minutes at the end. It's terrible. Henry Rollins is in it

though. Is he? Yeah. I don't remember. Yeah, I hate it. I just remember hating it. Because we saw it together. Yeah, that's true. Because we ride together, we die together. Bad Boys for Life. We watch every Bad Boys movie together, except for the first one. It's directed by Adil El-Abi and Bilal Falah.

The heirs of the Arby's fortune. Correct. They've been working on the Snowfall TV series, which I haven't seen. Apparently it's good, from what I've heard. I think it's good that Michael Bay's not doing this. It might be good or coherent. I don't like any of the action.

I don't like the characters. They're both the worst character. From memory. One of them has a Lamborghini. Because he's just rich. Yeah. I think. And again it has been a while since I've seen either of them.

But I think they really lent into. In the first one. Like one of them's. think they really lent into big in the first one like one of them's you know will smith's pretty cool and martin lawrence is kind of a regular guy i think and in the second one they really leaned into will smith's the coolest guy in the world and martin lawrence is the world's biggest loser yeah right and they really because he gets shot in the butt he gets shot in the butt exactly yeah i also like i wonder if because in in the butt. He gets shot in the butt. Exactly. I also, like, I wonder if, because in the still, like in the promo shot, Will Smith's wearing some sort of like velour t-shirt situation. Do you think it's linked to the movie?

What do you mean? Do you think that's linked to the movie? Like, that's the look for the movie? Yeah, I think so. Yeah. I don't think they're filming it yet. Oh, aren't they? No.

Oh, maybe that's for Bad Boys 2 then. Yeah. No, they did an announcement. Oh, I see. Right, right, right. But I don't think it started filming yet. Well, I was going to say, because is that's just an announcement. Oh, maybe that's from Bad Boys 2 then. No, they did an announcement. Oh, I see. But I don't think it started filming yet. Well, I was going to say, because is Will Smith's character still cool and stylish or has the world passed him by? Yeah, I don't know because I remember seeing Men in Black 3, which is fine, by the way.

It's better than 2. And there's a bit where Will Smith's like, hey, Tommy Lee Jones, you're old and out of touch and whatever. It's like, so are you. You're 45, which of touch and whatever. It's like, so are you. You're right. You're 45. Like, it's... Which is fine. Right?

But they should have let more into that he was... He's older now. He's a grown-up. It's fine. He's allowed to be older. Yeah. So, I don't know if you can... I don't know how they're going to handle this.

Probably very well. Joe Carnahan was going to do it. He did Wolf Fight, which I think would have been a good choice. And he's done other things that I enjoyed. Did he also do Smoke and Aces? I don't think he did. Look, there's no time to look it up did our wolf fight which i think was would have been a good choice and he's done smoking aces i don't think he did there's no time to look it up there isn't it's a joke huh it is let's bloody see mate let's bloody see he did the a team i hate that movie he did do smoking aces all right and he did the new death wish his name's on it. Isn't that terrible? Isn't that just about Bruce Willis just... No, direct...

It's just Bruce Willis just wandering around a shopping mall going, it's political correctness gone bad. Can't say anything these days. Oh, man. Anyway, Mason, as you know, we ride together, we die together. Absolutely. Bad Boys for Life. Bad Boys for Life.

And we will see this when it comes out, probably. And I guess I'll probably have to watch the second one again. And the first one for the first time. Yes, Mason. Because, you know, we ride together. Exactly. Anyway, speaking of Ewan McGregor movies, which we were, pigeon movies.

This is not a pigeon movie. This isn't a Valiant sequel. Ewan McGregor has been cast as Black Mask in the Birds of Prey movie. Yeah, all right. Skinny body, big head. This works, I think. What do you think of his American accent? When was the last time we heard him do an American accent?

Where's bloody... I'm going to say not good. Where's the last season of... It's fine, isn't it? Where's the last season of Fargo set? He's good in that. Oh, right. I think he's gotten better.

I'm not up to date. Yeah, right. Because the last time I remember him doing an American accent... You think of the island, don't you? Yeah, it was sort of quite generic, wasn't it? Yeah. It's that... It's that Benedict Cumberbatch...

It's the Doctor House generic accent. Yeah. Do you want to have a quick look at what he's been in lately? Yes. I can... I can ill-nail it. I think he's a great actor and a very handsome man, if you don't mind me saying so, Mason. He could also just do a Scottish accent, I feel.

You know what? He probably could. Yeah. Yeah. Where's Black Mask from? Scottish. He me saying so, Mason. He could also just do a Scottish accent, I feel. You know what? He probably could. Yeah. Where's Black Mask from? Scottish. He's from Scottish, yes. Well, the last one he did, I think, was Bloody Trainspotting 2.

And he did a great Scottish accent in that. So have you seen that yet? No. Chris Robin, no. Zoe, never heard of it. Beauty and the Beast, no. He was French. American Pastoral, no. I don't know any of these movies.

Last Days in the Desert, where he was Jesus. I haven't seen that one. But people used it to cut together fake Obi-Wan trailers. All right, terrific. No, it does seem like there's been a lot of American accents after late. But anyway. Good for him. I think it was in Mordecai.

Remember that? I have watched some of Mordecai. And you really liked it? No. Were you mortified? No, I was underwhelmed. Wow, excellent. Yeah, that's right.

This Black Mask movie looks like, not Black Mask, this Birds of Prey movie looks like it's going to be something. Yeah, right? Hopefully, yeah. I mean, we've said that before about many movies. Yeah, and they've all turned out really well. And this will be no exception, especially in the DC universe. When you're hot, you're hot.

You know what I mean? Uh-huh. But when you're not, still hot? Still hot. Still hot. Still hot. Still smoldering away. I'm glad they're doing villains like this and not just...

I mean, I was about to say they're not doing the Joker again. They are doing the Joker again. But it's... It's good to break up the monotony of a hundred Joker movies with a villain that isn't the Joker. You're correct. That's where you're going with that. That's what I've got. Because Batman has an amazing rogues gallery.

And we've seen so few of them. And this guy's great in that Arkham game, the one that he's in. Origins. Origins. Yeah, I want to see Mr. Freeze, like a proper Mr. Freeze. I think people would forget if they did it as well. I don't think anyone would be like,

well, this is, you know, they already did this. Nobody would care. People would be like, yeah, absolutely. Do Mr. Freeze. Exactly. I would love. Do Clock King. Yes.

Do them all. Do that. The one that turns into a bat. The man who's a brilliant bat. Do them all. Yeah. Yeah. What were you going to say?

Sorry. I was going to say I would like a way more low key version of Mr. Freeze. Like a kind of a, like the one from the animated series that is kind of, it is an aura. Exactly. My heart is cold But my emotions are fiery hot Is that it? Yeah that's an exact quote from that

Yeah it's a good episode Didn't that win an Emmy? It might have done yeah Great things are happening in the world So is that I was going to say See the problem with Batman And his rogues gallery

is there's so many of them, but I guess there's also a temptation to put in like five villains every movie, which on one hand, I would kind of like to see it, but then also that's a waste of potential in a lot of cases, I think, because they're like, okay, well, we put Batman and Robin, we put Bane in for two scenes.

Yeah. So he's done. He's done, yeah. Well, yeah, I don't know. I think it would be okay if you put him in briefly and then you cast a good actor. And then you're like, we'll probably see this. See if people bite on that. Like Deathstroke at the end of Justice League.

Yeah, that's right. Just like that, Mason. Nailed it. When you're hot, you're hot. Stop saying that. We ride together, Mason. Fine, and we die together mason all right uh we got some details on game of thrones season eight that series you don't care about and think is grim

and sad and hate yep uh okay so apparently the opening episode is going to be a callback to the first episode of the show where if you remember correctly uh robert baratheon little boy just gets pushed out of a he does get pushed pushed out of a window. That's true. They're doing that again. They're pushing that kid back out the window. It was 2011. That's just been going forever. Yeah.

But it's King Robert and he's... But this time they're doing it... They break his top half? I was going to say, it's like they get the idea. You know how in all those old adventure shows, somebody gets hit in the head and they get amnesia. And they get another hit to the head and their memory comes back. They're like

look if we push him out of the window again he'll regain the use of his body what if we catapult him into the window from the ground up you know

so if you remember the first episode Mason which you probably don't no I remember it okay King Robert turns up with Queen Cersei

and Jaime Lannister and they visit Winterfell and he asks... There's some incest. Yeah, there's quite a lot for a regular TV show. It's quite a lot. It's a bold opening gambit for the premiere of a TV series. A genre TV series that nobody really knew

if it was going to be popular or not. That's it. Just chuck some incest in there. Why not? And so it's a whole lot of people who have never really met, including Daenerys. And I wonder if Cersei Lannister is going to go back. I'm meeting at Winterfell.

So it's like a callback to that. And a whole lot of people who'd never interacted will be interacting with each other. So that sounds great. It's also going to have the biggest battle sequence they've ever done in any of these, where they fight the army of the dead again. Wait, that's going to be the first episode.

No, no, just in the series. I think it was in the eight and some of the episodes are very long. Yeah, right. Yeah, I'm very excited for this. I'm jazzed, Mason. It would be a bit of a downer if they didn't have the bit. Like what if they closed out with not the biggest action sequence they've ever seen?

That would be a bold maneuver, Mason. Wouldn't it be? Yeah. But the biggest amount of incest you've ever seen on the show. That's the finale. Well, is there enough family members alive? No, I don't think so. To do that?

No. Yeah. Also, the prequel's still happening. I think Naomi Watts got cast in that. Huh. Which is, that prequel leads up to The Long Night, which has happened a thousand years before, or 10,000, or a billion.

A billion years? Who knows? Wow. They still bloody bang on about it, though, don't they? I also want to see those spiders as big as hounds. They promised them in season one, they're like, when the bloody, the cold came, everyone was like, this sucks, and then there were big spiders. Yeah.

So, that would suck. Imagine if you're cold, and there's a really big spider. Big spider. You wouldn't be warmed up to battle. You know what I mean? Yeah. You have to stretch in front of an open fire. And spiders are a cold-blooded animal, so you couldn't even snuggle up for warmth. To the spider.

Yes. Isn't that where you were going with that? Are they a cold-blooded animal? I think so. Yeah, you're probably right. What a world. Yeah. Mason, speaking of high fantasy TV series.

I'm listening. We get our first look at Henry Cavill in The Witcher That's true I'm not going to say the name of the character Because I'm probably wrong Geralt I think it's Geralt I think it's Geralt

Jerry Longhair Yes Yeah What do you think of this weird looking cosplay wick? What's going on? I don't mind it He's very It's alright

Yeah Because I don't know Because I've not played the games Nor have I read the books Or watched what I Or imagined this character I I don't know, because I've not played the games, nor have I read the books or watched what I... Or imagined this character. I've never imagined this character.

Well, I've kind of... I would have thought that he's more, you know, dirtied up and kind of, you know... I think he is in the games and he grows a beard. Okay, yeah. So this guy looks... He looks like a very polished, clean cut. He's more elvish. Yeah.

But again, having never encountered this character in any other form of media, what do I have to compare it to? What am I thinking? What am I thinking? Why am I putting these yet more unrealistic expectations on witches, you know? Yeah. He loves going out of his way to do a weird hair thing, doesn't he? Maybe not going.

Sometimes he's forced into it. Yes. Yeah. I don't know. I think it would have probably looked better as a wig if it was his real hair and they did extensions. But then you've got to walk around with that. For months.

Like, dye his hair and do it like that. Yeah, but... Yeah, I'm looking... We're getting a lot of this high fantasy stuff because we've got The Lord of the Rings, we're getting Game of Thrones again. They're doing a Narnia TV series. Oh, Game of Thrones again in the style of Get Smart Again?

Yes, that's right. All the remaining characters are brought back out of retirement. Except it's sad. Yeah. Was that a sad show? I saw bits of it. Oh, I was thinking about it because there was a couple of them. There was a Steve Carell movie.

Oh, yeah. No, Get Smart Again was a movie. Oh, it was a movie, was it? Okay. There was two Get Smart movies with the original cast. The Nude Bomb. Yeah, baby. And Get Smart Again. My watch. Sorry The Nude Bomb. Yeah, baby. And Get Smart Again.

My watch. Sorry. What are we doing? Keep going. One of those movies features, and I loved it as a kid, but I bet it's awful now. One features a chase sequence where Get Smart, he has a desk mobile. You know his name's not Get Smart. Whatever.

No, it's Get Smart. The actor's name is Get Smart. The character's name is Get Smart act the actor's name is get smart the character's name is get smart okay show's name is get smart that's why it was the that's why it was such a hit yeah because all the stars aligned all the branding was on point yeah that's right okay exactly yeah but anyway there's a chase sequence where get smart has a desk mobile like it's just his desk in his office and he has to he he has to track down the bad guys, so his desk can drive down the highway, and it's got machine guns on it and stuff. Oh, that's really Mr. Bean-esque.

So did he drive it out of his office? Yes. How did he get it out the door? I think he blasted a hole in the wall or something. Yeah, he would have. Now, that's Get Smart. That's Get Smart. Again.

Get Smart by name, Get Smart by nature, you know? That's a great catchphrase. Mason... I'm Get Smartin' over here! That's what he usedphrase Mason I'm Get Smart and Over Here That's what he used to say I remember The movie version was really weird and self-referential wasn't it? Like with the shoe phone The Rock's the bad guy

Do you remember it? Yeah It was a good cast Yeah Alan Arkin was the chief or whatever That's right Yeah I remember being okay

What do you remember it being? I also remember it being okay. But the problem was it wasn't starring a person named Get Smart. See, that's exactly it. The stars didn't align, you know? Steve Carell is Get Smart. I'm not buying him as the secret agent Get Smart. Was that the last era of shows that came out before our childhood

that old movie executives thought people want to see again i think maybe it was because it was like that the brady budget adams family and from uncle man yeah oh yeah there he goes that's a more recent but that wasn't a wacky self-referential yeah like brady bunch hey look at us remember the old thing well here's a new thing but we're here's a bit of a nod and a wink like man from uncle i feel was very straight ahead yeah i remember the brady bunch movie came out no we all we all remember no kid gave a shit about that at all it was definitely like parents dragging their kids to this weird throwback yeah anyway uh mason we got to talk about star wars because it's this show all right okay all right but we got we got a bit of a hot scoop, though.

Do we? Which may or may not be true. But before we get into that... Wait, wait, wait. Is this a Weekly Planet exclusive? Yes, it is, Mason. Is it really? It is, yeah.

Why? But it may or may not be true. You have another thing to say first. I do. Okay. The story goes that, first of all, that Episode IX is going to be a course correction... I've heard that, yeah. ...for the Star Wars franchise. Okay. If they i've heard that for uh for the star wars franchise

okay if they want to do that go for it put it put in bloody everything and everyone put in another death star but this is this is wait who is this again this is abrams okay well i don't like the sound of that then yeah don't you love a course correction dc did one worked out really well that worked out fine didn't it yes oh yeah it's fine yeah i well this is going to cap off the trilogy and what we talked about it last week we have a video on all the upcoming star wars properties including including this one see but i guess it depends on what your definition of course correction is and i kind of feel like again i've liked some stuff that jj abrams has done but i also feel like his definition of course correction involves a whole

bunch of new mystery boxes or even like, and stuff we've seen. Yes. And like re maybe reintroducing mystery boxes that we thought were done. Yeah. Right. Like who's raised parents. Nobody's.

Well, now they guess what they are. Some people. Yeah. Well, you've wasted my time then haven't you? You know what I mean? Don't? Yeah.

And, you know, I don't want this next one to end with, but it turns out, Ray, your dad is Obi-Wan Kenobi, you know? Imagine that. Destiny. Don't give me that. I don't want it. You don't like Destiny? No, I kind of do like Destiny.

I knew you liked Destiny. And you're going to love this, Mason, because we've got this anonymous email from somebody who has a friend who's who's working on episode nine i can't wait what part of this is so is every aspect of this is anonymous correct do you know the name i know the name of the person who said it yeah okay yeah and i know and i know you have you have you facebooked them i sent a few emails to say to just so but this could easily left a paper trail correct so this person's definitely going to get fired no because they because they don't work for Lucasfilm. This could easily be...

Ah, you've revealed something about them though. We can track them down. All you have to do is look for somebody who doesn't work for Lucasfilm. So apparently, do you remember Matt Smith is in this? By the way, this is a rumor. If anyone's going to report on this, which may happen. We're heroes. This is a rumor and I do not know whether this is true. And even the person who sent this is like, it may happen no we're heroes this is a this is a rumor and i do not know whether

this is true and even the person who sent this is like this may not be real is this time to bring back our famous segment hot scoop or shot of poop i think it's the perfect time i think it is yeah okay so so you've received this yep and basically this could be a hot scoop yep and we've we've got the hot scoop but if this later turns out not to be real You have to do a shot of poop We both do We ride together No We die together I agree

Shot of poops I agree that we ride together We die together But I feel hot scoop or shot of poop Again I don't make the rules It does override any element of So if it's true

I don't If it's true We've got ourselves a hot scoop But if it's not true You have to do a shot of poop Do you have to do a shot of poop. Do you have to do a shot of poop in any scenario? Look, we'll cross that bridge when we get to it.

I feel like you're ducking the question, Mason. Thus far, the answer is no. But again, I'm not ducking any questions. It's just I don't make the rules in this situation. Also, I want to clarify for anyone who wants to report on this. This is in our hot scoop or shot of poop segment of the show. And you need to specify that this is the segment of the show. It's called hot scoop or shot of poop. You need to write that in your article.

Yes. Okay? Yeah. Right. Okay. So Matt Smith is in this movie, right? Yep. I heard the rumor that he's actually playing a young Emperor Palpatine.

Oh, so this is a flashback? That's the thing. Or a clone. Maybe not. Apparently there's quite a lot of it, so it might not be a flashback. It could be a clone. Also, Star Wars Rebels introduced time travel last, only this year. Oh, it did, didn't it?

Yeah. And in Star Wars Rebels, the Emperor is trying to open portals to this nothing dimension where you can find, you can visit points in time. Through a tree or something? Yeah, you can get in through a tree or a weird rock before A New Hope. Right, okay. And when they go in there, the Emperor is in there

and he tries to lure one of them in so he can get into this weird dimension. With candy or something. Yeah, with candy, so he can get through. There's even a moment in that where Ezra, who's the main character from it, reaches in and pulls Darth Vader's old apprentice out of a fight with him into the zone that they're in. Into the zone, yeah, for sure.

Let's call it the Phantom Zone. That's not what it's called. Uh-huh. And then you can visit, potentially... Phantom Menace Zone. Yes. Different points in time. Who was the Phantom Menace?

Darth Maul. Was he? Yes. Or Sidious. Because. Who was the Phantom Menace? Darth Maul. Was he? Yes. Or Sidious. Because I didn't know about Sidious. But they only knew about Darth Maul. Yeah. Did they call him the Phantom Menace?

Yeah, they said, this is a real Phantom Menace. I hope this doesn't lead us into an attack of the clones. You remember? Yes. Now that you mention it. Now that you've described it so vividly, I do remember when they said that, yes. Yeah. Anyway, what do you think about the young Emperor turning up?

The young Emperor Chronicles. I cannot get on board with the idea that they would introduce time travel in the last movie in the trilogy. I know. I know. That would be staggering. But I understand why. Because if they've introduced it in another medium medium yeah i would under i i feel there's a

certain subset of nerds who would be like i hate the last jedi because it's done this but because we've introduced time travel in another thing yeah it's now canon and i'm okay even if it narratively jumps out of nowhere in the movie and they're just like hey we can time travel now i think they'd be like yeah well but they did it in the show you know that show that nobody's seen well uh yeah that's okay then it's like the thing with you know yeah

because you're talking about Luke and the force projection because people are like well we never saw anybody do that prior to this but this is yeah this is an example of yeah there is

I'm not saying that's what it is the person who sent this email didn't say this is what it was I just think that if this is true which it probably isn't that's a possibility yeah i think it's a client yeah well that he's done it

before yeah in the expanded universe expanded universe exactly or it could be a flashback but i also think that that a clone is not that like even though even though it's not been introduced in the but i mean we've got clones in yeah clones we've got clones i don't think we've had a transfer of consciousness no yeah but i feel that is a and again because it's a villain i think it's that's well within the and if if this ends with my feeling is if we're doing some course correcting, potentially this ends with the First Order being destroyed or nearly destroyed. And they're like, what do we do now? Well, four of our leaders have been killed.

And then Palpatine shows up again and is like, I'm back, bitches. You thought I fell into a weird reactor. And I did. And that establishes, okay, well, now we can do it. Let's do another trilogy. Here we go. And it's back to what you like.

But time travel, then you've got to put in rules for time travel in a lot in the final movie of a trilogy madness time travel is probably a mistake to to just put into a franchise out of out of nowhere uh because then what do you do go back and save alderaan exactly yeah you can do anything i think that's yeah yeah, it's a big, because then from every, it's like Harry Potter and the Time Turners. Yes. It's like everyone's

just always thinking, yeah, everyone's always thinking, just get the Time Turner. Just get the Time Turner. Just get the Time Turner. Yeah. So look,

again, I don't know whether this is true. I don't particularly want it to be true. It could be handled very well, who knows.

But remember, if you report on this, this is the hot scoop or shot of poop segment, and for anybody who sees anybody report on this, and they don't mention this, please tweet at them. It's the segment hot scoop or shot of poop.

We only give permission for you to report on this if you use the title of the segment. Also, if you do report on it, and it turns out not to be true, we are going to mail a shot of poop to your offices, and you have to do it and it turns out not to be true, we are going to mail a shot of poop to your offices and you have to do it. That's right. Once again, I don't make the rules, but they're just in place.

We ride together as entertainment news media outlets. Exactly. We die together as entertainment news media outlets. We get cholera together. That's right. Okay. Speaking of time travel though, wow, what a great segue. I didn't even mean this.

There's some great accidental segues this week. I feel like maybe your subconscious knows that- It's taken over. Yeah, your subconscious, you've been doing this for so long. Your subconscious is just like, it's making perfect segues every week. Because I feel your segues are getting better. Thank you. Yeah.

You know who did make the perfect segue? That company that made segues, and then the founder of theway got on the Segway and then he fell off a cliff. Yeah, he did. I mean, the Segway worked. That was his fault. I think so, yeah. The Segway was too good of anything. They need seatbelts.

No, that wouldn't have helped him. It needed a parachute. It needed squirrel wings. Do squirrels even have wings? Some do. Some do gliding squirrel wings. Do squirrels even have wings? Some do. Some do gliding possums and stuff like that. I feel like the death of the founder of the Segway on his off-road Segway

really kind of put a crimp in the alternate Segway market. Like, I feel they could have been better. Like, you could have had a regular Segway. You could have had off-road Segway. Maybe underwater Segway. Or, you know. Or overwater Segway. Grappling hook Segway.

Yeah. Karate chop Segway. Glove in the dark Segway. Glove in the dark Segway. Exactly. Whatever the He-Man character who was covered in moss Segway. Moss man Segway, yeah. Convertible Segway.

Convertible Segway. You just wear a backpack and it's got a hood over the top. I just think if you're going for a hike, just walk it. Why do you want a Segway on a cliff? What the fuck is wrong with you? Of course you fell off a cliff. What did you think was going to happen? But that guy's whole life would have been like just taking a short walk and going, oh, there's got to be a better way.

There isn't. No, it's true. You have proven that. Yeah. Anyway, The Time Machine is being remade by Andy Muschietti, who's director of the It films, which I think is a great choice. I really enjoy the Guy Pearce Time Machine movie. There you go. Yeah.

Why? Who knows? Because of the magnetic performance of Guy Pearce? Yeah, he starts out as a nerd and he's got, he's like big, all big teeth and like pushing his glasses up. And at the end he's karate. He's cravats all the way up to the top, you know. Then he's karate kicking mutants or whatever at the end of it.

But I like the technology use in that. There's like a dude who's in a museum who's on a glass. Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Okay, there's good concepts in it. Yeah. And I like the time travel element where, you know, you see him go through time and the buildings rise and fall and all those kind of things.

I think there's good stuff in that movie. It's not, look, I understand it's not a great movie, but I like it. Also, this will only be the third movie adaptation of this, which blows my mind. Yeah, right. Yeah. You'd think there'd be an attempt every five or six years yeah

does that include like straight to dvd or well that's a very good question do you want to look that up please do you care do you actually we can look it up later no mason you've asked me to do it and we ride together and we die together exactly yeah that's 2002 i remember that movie we went and saw it together almost certainly yeah cool definitely because it's right in that window okay so there was a 1949 bbc teleplay there was a 1960s film there was a 1978 film there's a 2002 film there's been what there's been more than three who reported that you should eat a big old shot of poop exactly right so this is the fifth i feel we should expand the hot scoop or shot of poop rules to literally every aspect of entertainment agreed oh great that would cut down on some

some of the shoddy reporting definitely if those people out there are tmz.com yeah if they're like oh turns out the celebrity couple's broken up and then they haven't broken up damn that shot brother and you gotta gram it you gotta exactly you gotta grab it yeah yeah anyway what do you think about this the time i forgot what we're talking about yeah uh yeah okay i'll see another one yeah great and i guess also because again there's some good stuff do you think do you think people fondly remember the the guy pierce the time machine no i don't think it did well i think i'm the only one who's seen it and you who was there with me at the time sure let me let me just

take the box office on that okay uh it made it was a budget of 80 million dollars and made 123 so with marketing no that wouldn't have made money also it was directed by simon wells who was the grandson of hg well really great grandson wow yeah i would have been grandson yeah edward also says uh uncredited gore vobinski. So here, he had a name. Ah, the Pirate, Mr. Pirates of the Caribbean. Mr. P-O-C, yes. Wow, can't wait for that to come back either.

That's what they call him, Mr. P-O-C. Okay, Avatar News. Okay. The thing that we rubbish a lot. What I enjoy about Avatar News is there is every possibility that we reported on the same Avatar News last week and the week before and the week before that, but we've just forgotten it. Do you think we should give these movies the benefit of the doubt and James Cameron as a director? No. But he's done nothing but pretty good stuff.

I mean, even Avatar, which both of us are not a fan of, it's still spectacular in terms of the money it made and the way it looks and the advancements in technology. You know what I'm going to say this straight up? Money's not everything. Wow, that's powerful stuff, Mason. Pretty powerful, isn't it? Yeah. Anyway, we've got some names of the sequels, the four sequels that he's making.

There might be spelling errors and this might be wrong. Did I copy and paste this? Avatar. Avatar, yeah. Avatar, The Way of Water. Also, you know that I can't see the spelling mistakes. Yes. might be wrong because oh did i copy and paste this or avatar yeah avatar the way of water also you know that i can't see the spelling mistakes yes as long as you pronounce the words right that's right i don't worry i will some of these i don't know the way of water okay well that sounds thrilling he loves underwater stuff you know that but also that like the way of water just downhill

what if it's just some sort of like what if it's a two hour 4D water rolling down an aqueduct film and the audience gets buckets of water

thrown at them yes that's the 4th D the 4th D is water is water yeah yeah yeah okay and one after that is Avatar the Seed Bearer oh

these all sound so these are rumours dull yeah Avatar the is that an attack of anything revenge of anything The Seed Bearer. These all sound so dull. These are rumours. Yeah. Avatar. Is that an attack of anything? Revenge of anything?

There's a quest. No, yuck. Okay. I want revenge. It should be Avatar 4, Revenge of the Guy in that Power Suit. Salazar's Revenge. Salazar's Revenge. Salazar's back.

He's come through the water. He's come through the water through time. Yep. Downhill. Down to an alien planet and He's come through the water through time. Yep. Downhill. Down to an alien planet and now he's fighting the Avatars. Great. Avatar the Tolkien Rider. What?

I don't know. The Tolkien Rider. T-U-L-K-U-N. Tolkien. Was that a thing in one of the first ones, maybe? Yes. I don't know. Oh.

These are all yuck. I hate them. And Avatar, the quest for... Peace. Superman 4. What's E-Y-W-A? E-Y. E-Y. Okay, that's another one.

That's a Tolkien writer situation. Yeah, it's a real Tolkien writer situation. Because they've invented some other concepts in the other sequels, and they're like, oh, now everybody loves that Tolkien writer. There must be an Avatar wiki. There'd have to be. So I'm looking at... I don't know.

I don't think it's... It doesn't seem to be linked to anything. I don't know. I'm not up on my Avatar lore. Wow. Yeah. I know. It's disappointing.

Look, if people know anything about this podcast, it's we don't say a darn thing unless we know all the details. Correct. So what were we thinking getting into this Avatar talk? Yeah. Look, I'm not going to write this off yet. Avatar 5, revenge of the guy that maybe we thought was going to be Cable for a bit, but then he wasn't Cable and he had a big knife?

Yeah. Did he have a big knife? He got four giant arrows at him. Yeah. But he is back. Cool. He bounced back from having his mask come off, I think. Well, just put him in a different Avatar, i think we'll just put him in a different avatar

you know yeah put him in the technology to put him in an avatar put anyone in an avatar what if it's just him but he's bigger i would love that that would be great that would be great right guys i think we've just saved the avatar franchise that would be cool if it's the blue avatar the navi guys versus just real big marines. And he's 75 years old. Yes. Yeah. But they'd have to be, because otherwise you'd have to design them correctly, because otherwise it's just regular people fighting. Because on a scale way, it'd just be regular people fighting regular people.

Yes. So you have to make him a bit gangly and weird. Yeah, right. So it's unpleasant to look at. Yeah. You know what's a good, they should take Mr. Hyde from League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, take that design. It's a bit left of center. People loved itde from League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. Take that design. It's a bit left of center.

People loved it at the time. Yeah, for sure. I think it's time to bring it back. Oh, yeah. Man, I can't wait for Avatar, the quest for Iwa in 14 years when that comes out. Well, they're doing four in a row, like one every year. I think they are. One every week.

Imagine that. Four years of Avatar. Fuck it now. Jesus Christ. See, earlier... I know what I said....in the year Avatar hell see earlier i know what i said i know what i said but the reality of it is just what it's just washed over you it's just washed over you like water downhill oh no yucko this is interesting and i'm kind of for it i think though not as much as I was for the sequel

they didn't make Gladiator 2 is getting a sequel Ridley Scott looks like Gladiator 2 is getting a sequel or Gladiator 1 is getting a sequel yes they're doing Gladiator 3

it's like Naked Gun 33 and a third no sorry Gladiator is getting a sequel in the form of Gladiator 2 it'll follow remember the son

Lucius he was like the woman who was the sister of commodus the emperor and she has a son uh he's following maximus's impressions and and he he goes up to be a gladiator presumably right okay so because that was not the original pitch for a gladiator sequel wasn't it it was it was mystical and it was nick cave wrote it uh he wrote the gladiator sequel yes which makes me think it would have been good because he's a great writer.

So that's for... Wait, so Nick Cave, the singer Nick Cave, the musician Nick Cave, right? He wrote like The Proposition or something as well. Oh, yeah, he did too. Yeah, he's good. Okay. And he's also a great musician. Yeah.

But yeah, it was basically Maximus through time. And it was... He's a... Gladiator 2, Maximus through time. He's a warrior general who keeps showing up in different time periods. Right. Or maybe it's just set in World War II or something. I can't remember.

Yeah, yeah. But it was a real thing they were going to make. Yeah. And, yeah, so the spirit of Maximus lives on. Does that mean the script is done and out there? It might be. I know a lot of it is. Because we conceivably could run into Nick Cave at some point

I don't know if he still lives in Australia Where is he living? What's he up to? Does he dye his hair? I don't think so He must Just because some people have to dye their hair Doesn't mean everybody has to dye their hair

How old is Nick Cave? He'd have to be 55 No, he's 60 probably We know he was around in. We know he was around in 1994 because that's what I'm saying. We know he was around. He wasn't even- He's 61. You're right.

Yeah. He didn't arrive fully formed putting Red Right Hand on the X-Files soundtrack. Was that on the X-Files soundtrack? Yeah. I didn't know that. Which- The movie? There's an episode where the first time Scully is kidnapped by a lunatic.

The first time? Red Right Hand is playing on the radio, I believe. Okay, gotcha. Let me just check actor, soundtrack, writer. Here we go. Big fan of Nick Cave. Yeah, he did The Proposition, which he did Lawless, which I have not seen. Yeah, he's done some stuff, man.

Good on him. He did that song with Kylie Minogue. He did. Wild Rose Grows Something it's a good song it is a good song it's like Al Kylie yeah

good old Nick 61 year old Nick Cave anyway he's not writing this new one it's interesting he hasn't transitioned to Nicolas Cave is that interesting? yeah it is I think it is because he's an adult

I think he's very much that's a conscious decision yeah right it comes to a point where he's just not going to do that, right? Yeah. Yeah, I think so. What do you think? I also think it's interesting Will Smith is not William Smith at this point.

Or Bill Smith. Bill Smith. But that's his name. Yeah, I know. Why isn't Tom Thomas Cruise? Well, he's Thomas Mopova. Yeah. What's his name?

Yeah, something like that. Cruise, yeah. Good on him. Anyway, Gladiator 2 2 did you like the first one yes it did a lot of good things for stadiums for big old stadiums

being in Star Wars films that's very true look I have not seen it since it came out really yes I don't think I've seen it again I feel it's one of those movies

that I would have enjoyed the spectacle at the time but I think watching it now would kind of be a drag quaint is that what you're saying i'm not even quite i don't know but i think i'd be in it for i don't know because again that's also i think when that movie came out i didn't care about acting performances yeah so i think watching it now i'd be kind of i'd be seeing it with fresh eyes and being like russell crowe is the greatest actor in the world. He was right. Yeah, he was. That guy's right.

Yeah, right? Yeah. I haven't seen it recently, but I really like it. It's not just the spectacle of it, which is good, because that stuff kind of fades over time, you know what I mean, because you get more of it. But I think there's some good performances. I mean, we've seen men being kicked in their endless wells.

That's my favourite thing. What a dick kick. We've seen weird giant ogre men you know yeah like we've seen men on golden thrones

yeah right that we're talking about yes exactly yeah we're never not talking about league of extraordinary gentlemen

correct but no I think it's a really good film from memory and also Oliver Reed like died during it

and they did sayings with him and it still looks like he's not dead even though he was. There's a lot of actors that have died. Have you done a video on that? Yes.

Actors who've died during filming? Yes, I think maybe we did. Oh, did we? We talked about it? I don't know, yeah. Did we do it last week? Is that why I remember it slightly? Wow.

Yeah, well, we talked about Tarkin and a bunch of others. Did we? Okay. Did we? Good for us. There is one on my channel. I either did it by myself

or we did it together. I can't remember. Yeah. Did you piece together what I said from just stuff I've said on the podcast? I think we did a specific video for it, which is what we've been doing. It's just me going, who else is dead? You've just put that in. You've got a button that's me going, who else is dead?

Oh, wow. That's young. That's young. It is young. So Russell Crowe won't be back, which is, you know, it doesn't have to get into gladiator fighting shape. I mean, that bit he fights a tiger and shit. The movie's insane.

I don't remember that at all. Apparently Commodus also, as far as emperors go, not that bad of a bloke. Oh, in real life. Yeah. Right. So there you go. But history doesn't give a fuck.

That's right. That's how people remember you now it's a weird Joaquin Phoenix monster with a Caesar haircut yes yeah okay

what else we got here two more bits of news Flash Gordon the movie they're making another one okay good give it another crack boy

Julius Ava who did the Overlord film which is that J.J. Abrams produced World War 2 but it's zombies also thought it was going to be Cloverfield but it's not a few people asked us to talk about

it, we can't, it comes out here December 6th so I'd love to it's something I really want to see but it'll probably be out streaming before it comes out so yeah so basically it's out in America, people have seen it they'll be like hey can you

talk about it we'll be like no then it'll come out on streaming they'll be like it's out on streaming you want to see it you want to talk about it now we were like it's sorry it's still not out here in any form yeah and then by the time it comes out in australia everybody will be done with it yeah and we'll be dead we'll be dead because we ride together and we die together yeah anyway but the top bit of that news was that Flash Gordon movie yeah alright give it another try what was the last

because there was a TV series with the guy from Smallville the bully from Smallville oh right yeah cool so football player slash man tumbling through time

football player slash man yeah it could be two things that's right these two defining characteristics he was a football player and he's a man also. I've never seen that movie. I have seen it.

I just know it through like Ted and the song, the soundtrack, which is amazing. But what do you think? That's interesting because I guess because it's the movie that everyone knows is very camp. Yeah. And if you do a straight-laced version of it, I think people are like, well, it's not a patch on the original, even if technically it's better.

Yeah. And it's more interesting. If it's just, I think people will be like, no, this isn't anything. Do you do an old man Flash Gordon? Do you just do that? I don't know. I don't know.

Do you get, what's his name back? He's probably, I don't think he's kept up with the acting to have the chops to do it no that's probably true uh i don't know yeah anyway i don't care good on him yes uh i just think this is one of those things where there's a thousand things that are spun off it that are more interesting like you're john carter's but i don't care make it throw your money in the bin don't give a shit but good director it would seem

so you never know never rule anything out yeah maybe this is the one maybe this is the one to bring back retro throwback vintage pulp hero

characters I fucking hope not not everything has to come back and be it's retro fun remember VHS's yes

they're not good they're fucking terrible yeah do you remember rewinding them and if you didn't and you return the tape they'd give you a fine no do you remember that i never rewound anything yeah you snapped them over your knee i snapped them over my knee and i choked out the the guy at the desk with the tape do you remember when you could get you could just buy a device that just rewound videos? Yeah, that was specifically. It was separate from a VCR. I think that was before our time, but they still had

a race car. So it didn't play, but just to be clear, they didn't play. No, because your time was precious. You were an 80s businessman. You didn't have time to, you just had to watch tapes, you know? You had to watch tapes, yeah. You didn't have time to rewind a tape. You just put the next tape in, watch that tape,

while your race car VCR rewinder rewound the tape. It seems like a thing that only stores would have, right? Generally, only video stores. Yeah, no, but I mean, like, what kind of person, what kind of madman can't wait, you know, two minutes to rewind something? And even when you fast forward at the start, it's that, have you got what you paid for? I don't care.

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And I never will. Never, ever. Marvel TV is kicking off in a big way. Yes. That's what we're talking about today. But before we get into that specifically, the history of Winter Soldier and Falcon are getting a limited series for the Disney streaming service. Yes. Malcolm Spelling is going to write.

Is he related to Aaron Spelling? Correct. Is he? No, I don't know. All right. He did Empire, which I haven't seen. What's that about again? The record industry or gangsters.

You're thinking about Empire Records. I might be. About the record store. Empire. It closes at midnight, in case you're wondering. I love that Empire Records. Yeah, it is. What is it?

CEO of an Empire Entertainment. That sounds generic. No, it's got, what's his name? First roadie in it. Terrence Howard. Terrence Howard, yeah. Still seems a bit. See, it's difficult, evidently, to Google Michael Spelling

because it just comes up with a number of websites about how to spell Michael. It's a good question. The word, the name Michael. People also ask, how do you spell Michael for a girl? What is the spelling of Michael Jackson? I feel it's in the question. Why is Michael spelled the way it is?

Why is anything spelled like anything? What a stupid question. It just is. Who's Googling that? I don't know. Throw yourself into the ocean. Yeah. The final question, is Mikey Al a name?

You know how people transpose the E and the A? Right, okay. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, I don't know anything about Michael Spelling. Yeah, so Terrence Howard is a hip-hop mogul, former drug dealer and CEO of Empire Entertainment. So yeah, it's all the things. It's gangsters and it's entertainment.

Oh, terrific. So wow, there you go. Anyway, Kevin Feige is also going to be producing this TV series, which he hasn't on any of the others. This is hand-in-hand with the universe, the movie universe, that is. Yeah, right. I like that it's characters taken directly from the films. Looks like they're going to put more money into it.

I like that it's also limited. So it's not like the Falcon and Bucky show for the next eight years. Yeah, right. Just do one. They've got stuff going on. Yeah, make ten good ones. Oh, gee. What's Falcon's real name?

What's the actor's name? I was going to say Sam Wilson, but that's the... That's the character's name, yeah. Anthony Mackie. Anthony Mackie, because he's going to be... He's also in Altered Carbon, the second season of that. Oh, that's right. He's got a lot of stuff going on.

What's his name? He's the new Altered Carbon. Yeah. Takeshi's Castle, whatever the guy's name is. He's new to Takeshi's Castle, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he's got some... He's busy.

I feel like people are expecting this to be wacky, like tonally, because the shot that everybody's using on this news item is the shot, you know, where they're in the Volkswagen in Civil War. And they're like, yeah, because it's the scene where Captain America's macking on Agent 13. What a weird scene. Weird scene. And they're like, yeah.

So that's the promo photo they're using. Yeah. But I feel like this is maybe maybe gonna be way more serious in tone it could be captain america is dead i think that's it and it's kind of it might even be kind of a battle for the shield yeah right kind of show like it might be we assume they're teaming up but maybe they ain't for some reason yeah maybe maybe some you know ghosts from their past are dredged up and literal ghosts literal Oh, my goodness. Have we seen literal ghosts?

Tilda Swinton is sort of a ghost or something. I feel like Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. have also seen ghosts. I don't know. Have you ever seen a ghost in real life? No. Is it because ghosts aren't real? Yes. Okay, cool.

Wait, maybe it isn't, though. That's a good point. If you see someone on the street and you don't stop and put your hand through them, they could be a ghost. Can't rule it out, can you? You don't know. Anyway, you were saying something that wasn't whatever the fuck I was talking about. Yeah, I don't know.

Maybe this is one of them has to, maybe we want one of them to be the new Captain America. Yeah. It's probably going to be Bucky. Because again, Anthony Mackie's going to do Altered Carbon. Yeah, that's it. Interesting. Or one season at least.

Yeah. So, you know, we'll see. Anyway, yeah, I think you might be right. I mean, there'll be a humor in it i'm sure but i'd like it to be more man captain america's dead and just a tug of war for the shield exactly you know but i would also see that's the thing like this could go in a lot of directions i hope this is like what if they have a great time making this and they're like let's do a season two absolutely because i think though they've had some very limited screen time yeah together but i feel like they're a good pairing and and they fight well together as well yeah also bucky tore his wing off once and like

yeah metal arm beats wing every time i feel like it would be a mistake to bring to make bucky okay well he's got you know he's he's under the control of villains he's fine you can't do that again he's fine now so i hope yeah remember he came back in whatever they fixed him sort of yes i do remember when he came back yes i do remember when he came back in various movies yes correct uh but but also i feel like there would be there's very few combinations of marvel characters that i wouldn't like to see team up. Yeah. Unless it's someone you've seen before, I assume.

Yeah, I think you could basically throw any two characters together and it'd be like, well, that'd be a fun dynamic. Yeah. So. What about like a Tony Stark, Steve Rogers? Would you need to see that? No, I've seen enough of that. That's fine. Yeah.

I think you could, any, maybe any new pairings. Just do like Ant-Man, Hulk. Just do whatever. Well, they're both men of science of a sort. And they both grow to sizes. They've both been fugitives from the law. Correct. It's got it all, that combo.

It's got it all, that combo. Yeah. Do you know what we should talk about now, though? Okay, I'm ready. The state of Marvel TV. Okay, let's do it. The history of. We're talking Netflix.

We're talking ABC. We're talking Hulu. The only thing I was going to say is I would like it also to be wack TV. Okay, let's do it. The history of. We're talking Netflix. We're talking ABC. We're talking Hulu. The only thing I was going to say is I would like it also to be wacky. Okay. Winter Soldier, Falcon. Both things. Maybe fun espionage. It could be anything.

Okay. Just them doing heists or something. Yeah. One could fly, one can't fly. Yeah, oh man. The original odd couple. Remember in The Odd Couple? Like a bird and a rat.

Yeah, remember The Odd Couple, that TV series from the 60s? One could fly and one couldn't? That seems unfair. One was messy and one could fly. He was very proper, but he could also fly. Great. Anyway, Mason, the state of Marvel television. It's up and down.

Isn't it, though? How do you want to start on this? Do you want to start with your Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. that way, or do you want to go Netflix first? How do you want to do this? Let's go Netflix first. Okay. Even though it started in 2015, it's not the first, Mason. That'sI.E.L.D. That way or do you want to go Netflix first? How do you want to do this? Let's go Netflix first. Okay. Even though it started in 2015 it's not the first Mason.

That's true. But let's do it. I feel like you're railroading me into talking about it in a different sense. Actually I've got Netflix here first. There we go. I can do whatever.

Okay good. But I think that's kind of important because it really seems like these are not going to be a thing very soon. Yeah. Yeah. I read something

apparently Daredevil season three there's been a drop off there's been a it was a 57 i'm making these figures yeah it's something like that seven percent drop off but what does that mean it means that from the people watching the previous season oh i see i thought i thought that was second week i heard it was a second week oh well maybe that maybe that is it's definitely a drop-off though but i mean what like it's not again it's not a week-to-week show yeah if if they were releasing episodes of daredevil every week and then it was a massive drop-off from episode one to episode two yeah i'd be like well that is concerning but the fact that there's a

drop-off between people binging the whole season and then not what am i going to do watch the whole season again yeah it's not yeah well i think also if it is second week that's not a crazy drop-off because movies experience drop off like that if you don't watch it in the first week you're probably just going to sporadically end up watching it which i did yeah have you finished it yeah i have finished it i gotta finish it well it got some more i haven't finished it lu Luke Cage lost 59% of its viewers in the second season, and Iron Fist dropped 64%. So that's kind of comparable to the Daredevil numbers that we're talking about. So it would seem that this looks like it might not be profitable anymore.

I think also people have kind of twigged that it's not really linked to the MCU. It's its own thing. But maybe it's not compelling enough as its own thing to keep watching. Anyway, let's go back to Daredevil 2015. Okay. This is an article. It says, Viewership for Daredevil Season 3 is down 57% in its first week.

Oh, okay. Right. In its first week, as in 57% of the previous season. Look, I haven't gone through past the title, so let's have a look now. I'm ready. This is from SuperBroMovies.com. I love SuperBroMovies. Yep. We're just a look now. I'm ready. This is from superbromovies.com. I love Super Bro Movies. Yep, we're just a couple of bros.

Yeah. We ride together, we die together. Bad bros for life. Yes. Exactly. While you're doing that, Mason, I'll just let everybody know that there's a movie on my channel called Marvel's Biggest Gamble, or some variation on that. Maybe I changed the title.

Just let me finish, Mason. Go ahead. It's a video about kicking off the MCU and how there was almost a previous MCU in the early 2000s. I did watch it. And there's a part where they just put everything on the table

and if it didn't work out, it would have been a really horrible disaster. Yes, absolutely. Anyway, you should watch it. I'll link it below. I mean, you have watched it. I have watched it. So that's it.

I'm good. As long as I've got your... I watched it 165,000 times. Great. Thank you. It's only got 110,000 views as of today. Oh, by the way... I watched some of it on your laptop.

Okay, good. I watched 50,000 of those on your laptop. Oh, they don't count. Season three of Daredevil, when compared to the first two seasons, has dropped by 57% in total viewers in the first week alone. Okay, so this is bad. That is bad. Which is a shame.

Did we have a... I wondered about this this did we have a hand in doing this like not that i'm saying me and you yeah me i'm not saying we're particularly influential but i guess in terms of critics generally but also some of this has been bad yes i feel like or just the same yeah and i feel like it's not us relentlessly criticising these seasons, but some of this stuff has been bad. Yeah, I agree. And it's not necessarily the fault of the actors. I think it's generally very well cast.

I think it's a failure of writing and it's a failure of production. And Foggy Nelson. I think... He's good. He's good in the new seasons. Season three, Foggy Nelson, the actor who plays it,

whose name I can't recall. This is his best acting. It's Get Smart. It is his best acting it's get smart it's his best acting and it's his best hair i feel very strong you know like the mullet no i think this is some great hair i think his best hair is from mighty ducks where he's one of the bash brothers but that's just me all right yep yeah but do you remember back in when daredevil came out yes that's why i got netflix i got it the second it came out i also got netflix for it yeah and i loved it it was 13

i was still kind of like this is too long but i was like man this ties into the mcu it's a character like they've done a character properly yep he ends up getting the suit it's really well cast all of that stuff there's barely any evanescence on the soundtrack so little of it look at the even the intro titles good like wilson fisk is still a great villain that has maintained throughout these whole things. I still think Daredevil has been the strongest character and series throughout all of these. I mean, that being said, I dropped off all of the other ones. But that says something, though, doesn't it?

Yep. And all the things that kind of are synonymous with the Netflix series, Daredevil did first, and we hadn't seen. But then everybody else just... Sad hallway fights. Sad hallway fights. and we hadn't seen, but then everybody else... Sad hallway fights. Sad hallway fights. Which now, like that became a trope by, I guess,

Jessica Jones and Luke Cage. But when that started, I was like, it felt kind of brutal and it felt real. It took so long to get up when he got here. It's true, yeah. Yeah. Well, they've got to do 13 episodes. That's true, yeah yeah i think if you

put them all together i reckon they'd be a full hour of just just getting up just tired men slowly getting up from being punched to the ground at least an hour at least somebody's made that super cut i bet if they haven't somebody should get on please watch all of these every episode but yeah i think it's just steven S. DeKnight did it, who did the new Pacific Rim, which I also liked. I know not everybody did, but I liked it.

I thought it was fun. It was kind of like Fast and Furious with just big robots. Yeah, right. But he left, you know, and I think they just went, well, that's what works about this. And then let's do it in everything else.

That being said, I think Jessica Jones is also very good. Yeah, i guess it is it's it's quite similar to the marvel marvel movie timeline where initially they didn't really know where they were going to go with it and then iron man and kind of set the tone and then they're like now do not deviate from this in any way so it's kind of similar where they were like we don't know what to do with marvel tv well make it kind of slow and brutal punches and people slowly getting up. And now that's every season.

Yeah. But I think there was a... Jessica Jones, I think I might have even enjoyed more than Daredevil, the first season. Yeah. At least. That character, first of all, really well cast. And again, absolutely stellar villain.

And it's a different set of powers. It's obviously a different storyline. It wasn't just... It's Daredevil again, but it's a female. It's a completely different person. It also introduced Luke Cage, and I think it's probably the best use of Luke Cage throughout all of this, maybe?

I didn't see Luke Cage Season 2. Luke Cage Season 2 is a marked improvement on Luke Cage Season 1. It's breezier. Look, I think up until recently, I would say Jessica Jones Season 1 was probably my favorite season of anything. But I think overall, Daredevil is my favorite of the Netflix characters now. I think season three is very solid. It's good stuff.

Poindexter. Is that his real name? In the comic books? I actually don't know. Let me check that. Okay. You should check that. How far are you into Daredevil season three? okay right i got red dead so all right okay so your

life's over my life's over yes yeah let me just yeah benjamin poindexter yeah there you go i never knew that i just thought he was just i just didn't know what his name was but that's a very that's a very comic book origin yes it is yeah yeah so i think those two jessica jones season three season two i was like it's probably still too long but the purple man was great it's got a solid conclusion good twists and turns with you know the luke cage and his wife and and all those kinds of things um you know and again i'm like defenders are coming this is yeah right this. And then Iron Fist really kind of... I think a lot of that has to do with very samey and boring action.

I forgot recently... Not Iron Fist, Luke Cage, but also Iron Fist. Yeah, right, exactly. I mean, obviously we haven't talked about this week, and we should, you know, because it's bloody... It's stormed the box office, Inhumans, the movie. Yes. It's out this week. That's right, November 2nd bloody it's stormed the box office in humans the movie yes is out this week that's right november 2nd just crushed crushed the box office so good there's a whole episode on in humans i remember having a very good time talking about

a very terrible tv series yes which i haven't gone back to we'll get to it in this yeah no i haven't got to it either but yeah that is certainly something else but uh yeah no luke cage is i think the villain in luke cage is good and then they kill one of them and i think they should have kept both of them both of them is it cotton mouth cotton mouth is killed and then we have diamond back yeah and uh mariah dillard as well yes well i also think it's good diamond back though not not a good replacement not a guy in a weird puffy vest and a helmet. I don't know what that was. I don't remember.

We talked about that at length at the time. And people are just watching them punch each other in the street, just casually having conversations as they just wail it on each other. I understand why that happened for purposes of themes, but practically ridiculous. Yeah. And then Iron Fist, I feel. I actually think Iron Fist is better than Luke Cage that season.

Oh, that's where I was going with that. Except for the casting. So Scott Buck, the showrunner for Iron Fist, also was the showrunner for Inhumans. Oh. I recalled that fact yesterday, and I'm like, that makes a lot of sense, actually. But also, like, Kevin Feige,

which I said in that video I was talking about, he was the producer on a lot of terrible Fox Marvel stuff before the MCU. So I think it's kind of, it's the budget you get, it's the characters you get, it's the story you're allowed to tell. So I wouldn't, let's not write him off yet, Mason. All right, fine. But Inhumans is terrible. So bad. It's the worst thing in the Marvel universe.

But again, I'm sort of intrigued to go, because we only ever watched the first two first two episodes which were in imax thank you uh and i've never gone back to those and i'm kind of intrigued i'd be kind of intrigued as to whether they could dig themselves out of the they kind of built an ethical hole and they dumped the main characters in it and i'd be kind of intrigued to go back to see if they got them out of that or if they just sort of brushed it under the rug kind of thing yeah and also everyone on that show is an idiot like he goes into a store and just steals clothes yeah yeah people like what are you doing and he's just like i'm the king bitch till do you understand the concept of money yeah you've got currency on the moon it's probably moon rocks or something like that moon

bucks moon bucks There you go. Yeah. Where are we going? Oh yeah, Netflix. We're talking about Netflix. Yeah. So Luke Cage, Iron Fist, bad fight sequences

except for a couple. He didn't look like he was... The Daredevil guy, right? Charlie Cox. Yeah, Charlie Cox. Never worked out, never done martial arts before. Never worked out at all.

No, not at all. He was just a sad, fat British guy. Yeah, but you wouldn't know that looking at him. No, not at all. He was just a sad, fat British guy. Yeah. But you wouldn't know that looking at him. No. He is phenomenal physically in that role. Really good.

And I know a lot of it is he's under a mask, so they probably swap him out. But a lot of it he seems to do himself. Yes. Again, in season three of Daredevil, we have an escape from the prison sequence. Which apparently is one take. Well, the director is saying that, apparently.

All right, good work. Bloody hell, good work. Yeah. And there's a few cowboy switches in it. Also, why would you say it if it wasn't true? Yeah, what a weird thing. What a weird brag to say. Just admit it if it's true.

Even if it was two takes, that would still be two four-minute takes, or whatever it was. But no, I think, and the problem with Iron Fist as well, he had to do a lot of it himself because he doesn't have a mask on yeah so it's just a guy who's kind of looks like he's just been smoking rolly cigarettes his entire life and then has to do martial arts on the first days on

set well that's what i'm talking about in terms of it's a fun and we've i think we've talked about this before but it's it's a failure of production insofar as... And the tattoo shit. Sorry, keep going. It's fine. No, that's a good interjection. I think that's important to mention that. It's fine to... The choice is hire a guy who's great at martial arts or hire a guy who's a good actor.

Yeah. And you can do either. You can do... Potentially, you find a guy who's great at both and that would be great but if you can't do that your choice is hire one or the other yeah and if there's ways to make there's ways to make either of those work and if you hire a guy who's not a great martial artist the the key i guess is to give them time to train or give them the the you know work around that that's what they did with the matrix yes the people the actors in the matrix were not necessarily great martial

artists when they started but they get they they worked harder on all the scenes yeah and they blocked them out and they gave the character the actors a lot of training yep and then they made it happen and it looks great it was wire time it was wire time exactly but for this they didn't they were like hey obviously it's a time frame thing as well exactly yeah but if you can't give the actors the time that's on you i feel then you have to do the crime exactly you have to do the crime which was iron fist season one that was the crime but just to be like you know but hey finn jones iron fist show up and uh you've got 45 minutes here's the moves yeah and we'll see you on set that's not enough time no it's definitely

i mean i know some people could probably just naturally do that i mean charlie cox seems like he's just even though he's never done it he's just naturally probably good at it but there's a big difference iron fist should be a noticeably better fighter than Daredevil. Right, exactly. Which we've talked about in the Defenders. I guess we should talk about Daredevil Season 2 just quickly. The first five of that's really good with the Punisher. And then it's kind of...

You feel it drags after that. Yeah. And I think this came before Iron Fist and Luke Cage. And that was to me when I was like, yeah, I don't know. This feels like they're just retreading water here. What happens in the second half of Daredevil season two? Exactly. I can't remember.

Yeah. I mean, he turns up at the end and they fight a thousand ninjas on a roof. Oh, that's right. Or twelve ninjas. It's the hand. Okay, yeah. Yeah. And Elektra's killed.

And put in a blood sarcophagus. Yeah, she is killed. Yeah. Yeah. Spoilers, by the way. All of those. Yeah. I was confused

because she's also killed at the end of Defenders yeah building felon building felon speaking of Defenders I really like Defenders flat

I really like it and I know a lot of people do not care for it I know a lot of people who are like well I'm sick of I don't think it's that bad

yeah I think a lot of people like I'm sick of Netflix Marvel I'm not going back to this I think people should I think it's fun I think it's that bad. Yeah, I think a lot of people are like, I'm sick of Netflix, Marvel, I'm not going back to this. I think people should. I think it's fun. I think it's the most... Here's the thing.

I think it's the most comic book-y of the Marvel Netflix stuff where it's just like, gather the team, now they're going to punch on. That I enjoy. They gather the team. I think they all work well together. Yep. I think I like the way they make fun of Iron Fist

and a lot of it. The fights are still... But he's also the least whiny. Yes. And the fights are still good. Stick cuts off his own hand and squirrels up a chimney or something or whatever but the whole plot of it is the whole thing has been building to there's dragon bones under new york and if we get the dragon bones new york is going to fall down and like that's this that's what everything has been yeah up to this point I mean, hearing that the Defenders are coming,

I was genuinely excited like I was when the Avengers were coming. Did you say you were jazzed? I was jazzed, Mason. I'm happy to say that. I'll accept that. But it didn't deliver on that for me at all in terms of just the story. It was good to see those characters together in a Chinese restaurant being like, we're so tired from punching.

They're all slowly getting up or whatever. We're so tired from punching, but at least we're in this large restaurant. We're not in a narrow corridor. Oh, doesn't it feel good to just stretch your legs out? Oh, me bloody dogs are barking from creeping down corridors and punching men. Yeah, so it's good, man. Some of it. And it's eight.

Yeah, I really like the sequence where Daredevil fights Iron Fist because Iron Fist technically is better at fighting. I feel like that season is better. I mean, they say he's technically better at fighting. But that's the thing. I think the idea behind that is that he is technically better at fighting, but also Daredevil's got... He's got more moxie.

He's got grit. He's got grit. And he's like like it takes more than being good at martial arts you know you've got to be able to get up slowly from a punch

that's what you've got to learn here kid get up slowly from being punched to the ground absolutely yeah he's really good The Punisher

also in Jessica Jones season 2 I haven't seen I've seen like the first episode of The Punisher people like it though I liked it a lot but I think Jessica Jones season 2 was a real letdown for me.

And I think because it came post Defenders where we were all supposed to have learned a valuable lesson about teamwork and rely on your friends. And she's just like, nah, I'm exactly the same. And I understand because people haven't necessarily seen the Defenders or any of the follow-up. A lot of people watch Jessica Jones and solely that, and that makes sense because that's a good season, season one. But to go straight from that to be like, no, I haven't learned anything.

I'm still a hard-drinking PI and I don't trust nobody and I've got a real bad attitude. Come on, give me something. Is Luke Cage in that? He is. Wait. No, he's not in it. Yeah. See, I think they're missing a trick there. Yeah. Come on, give me something. Is Luke Cage in that? He is, wait. No, he's not in it. Yeah, see, I think they're missing a trick there.

Yeah. Well, apparently, isn't the Iron Fist Luke Cage episode good? It's good. I liked it a lot. Yeah. There should just be that all the time. Yeah. Uh-huh.

I mean, again, the best part of the Daredevil season two was the Punisher element. Uh-huh. Surely there's characters they can bring in and, you know, characters outside who haven't been included yet. There's a bunch of stuff you, characters outside of who haven't been included yet. There's a bunch of stuff you can do that they just haven't made use of. And I'm sure they're limited by who they can use and by how much and whatever and budget. But it just seems like, why aren't you doing a Luke Cage Iron Fist series? I mean, I know now why you're not.

But I don't know why that wasn't the next thing that you'd want to do. Yeah, right. Yeah. But no, the Punisher's good. Yeah. And does he use a minigun? No. Never at any point. Unbelievable. thing that you'd want to do yeah right uh-huh yeah uh but no the punish is good yeah and just use a minigun no never at any point unbelievable anyway uh so they're not doing defender season two they were pretty clear about that when they finished season one they were like we're not

that's a shame i like yeah so i think they maybe the writing on the wall was for this it's on the wall for a while i know they'll never do it but i would really love a defender's cameo in avengers 4 like just one action sequence. Or just Daredevil. Sure. No, I think any of them could come over. Wasn't there a room that Daredevil might appear in Spider-Man? That's what they say.

I wouldn't count on it. No, I wouldn't count on it either. Because he's also not swing around on buildings Daredevil. That's true, yeah. He's slow parkour across a roof Daredevil, you know? But I think that would be funny. I would like to see Spider-Man go through a series of mentor types. Yeah.

And Daredevil would be great. Yeah. Just... And I would love a bit of superhero confusion and battle where Spider-Man just zips in and thinks this is going to be an easy one and then just Daredevil just clocks in real hard. Because if Captain America can get the better of Spider-Man, who's essentially just a guy,

Daredevil probably could on a good day. Yeah. Anyway, it's a shame how it's kind of turned out. And maybe a big part of that is because the movies seem to have been distancing themselves from the Netflix stuff. They don't feel the same anymore. They even stopped being like, remember the incident?

They even stopped doing that. Which initially was like, oh, wow, that's incredible. But then by the end, it's like, you're not a bloody big green guy. Shut up. You're not going to have the Hulk in it. Just shut up. Just show me a picture. Boy, it's a shame we're the only superheroes in New York City.

It's a real, real shame. We could do with some help here. Let's go over to ABC. They've been doing some stuff since 2013. I think our second episode, we talked about the pilot episode of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., which I really liked at the time. Yes. And then I stopped liking it almost immediately and then stopped watching it.

But consistently good from what I've heard and from what you've said, from what you've seen, right? Yeah. Got a lot better. Do you think the Hydra twist made a big difference? I don't know. I don't think necessarily. I think maybe my least favorite element of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is that they are not...

They are alternately in or... Like, S.H.I.E.L.D. keeps being destroyed and being reformed. Yeah, right. I don't particularly care for that aspect. I would rather it just be a consistent... Yeah. Here's S.H.I.E.L.D. It's an organisation that exists.

Here's S.H.I.E.L.D. Exactly. Yeah. Okay, yeah. Okay. Well, the characters also get more likeable when you remember their names as they go as well. That's true.

Because I had a lot of problems. You remember which one is Fitz and which is Simmons. I don't. But people who like that show do. Do you think that's going to keep going? Ooh. Because every season they're like, this might be it. I don't know.

Does it rate? I honestly have no idea. I think it rates. I think it rates. And it's also, you know, it's a reasonably popular ABC whatever night it's on show from what I've heard. Uh-huh. And I also like how they're able to go, let's just pull some minor villains that they're never going to use.

Yeah, or some minor heroes. Or minor heroes, exactly. Also, I like the potential of, here's Lady Sif. Oh, who else have you got? No one. We did Nick Fury twice and Maria Hill. Yeah, right. But yeah, I think there should have been more.

I think I need to sit down and re-watch Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. in its entirety. I know that's going to be an effort. And you can get into the Inhumans and all of that as well. Terrific. Because that's where they start. Terrific. It's a man who's got no eyes.

Instead of eyes, he's got no eyes. Yeah, I remember. Man, what a world. I would like to be able to talk about this more, but I haven't seen enough of it. Okay. Ghost Rider, good inclusion. Okay, how about this? Yeah, I think it's really good.

That dude who can like change into like things that he touches yes morphing boy yeah morphing man strong as strong as asphalt now man whatever he does

yeah for sure absorbing man that's the one thank you yes look I think what we should do we should go away we should both watch

every season of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. and come back and talk about it next week I'm going to guarantee you that I'm not going to do that I'm also not going to do that yeah but I'm glad that it come back and talk about it next week. I'm going to guarantee you that I'm not going to do that. I'm also not going to do that. Yeah. But I'm glad that it's good and people like it. Same.

Yeah. Marvel's Most Wanted nearly spun off that as well. They did a pilot, Mockingbird and her British mate, or whatever his, what's his name? Mockingbird and Pintboy. Mockingboy and Chippy Lad. Yeah, this was a sure thing thing they were talking about being a sure thing and it's definitely gonna happen and then they just didn't yeah it's a bit strange but uh

she's gone on to do the orville as well and oh that's right yeah yeah but uh yeah she's the queen of cancelled tv pilots for wonder womanaman this, so there's the trilogy which is good Adriana Padalecki so yeah it's kind of surprising they just never did it Agent Carter, which was started in 2015 I really liked

I didn't finish season 2 but the first season I thought was great it's consistently good the whole way through I think it did drop in quality season two. And I think that's someone I, every time she shows up in a movie or whatever, I'm like, this is a great character. I wish she was in more stuff.

I look, I feel, and again, this is probably going to be a running theme, but I feel like I, if I had one wish, it would be more, look, World Pace. For a thousand wishes. That's right. Very good, mate. World Pace, obviously, I'm not a monster, but if I had a second wish, it would be more look world pace for a thousand wishes that's right very good world pace obviously

I'm not a monster but if I had a second wish yeah it would be could we please integrate these characters more like the movie characters and the TV characters

it really feels like they miss a trick like put Ghost Rider into the movies give him a little cameo I agree

put Nick Cage back in the movies exactly yes yeah put Nicholas Cave back in the movies exactly yes yeah put nick nicholas cave back in the movie let's put nicholas cave back in yeah yeah yeah i agree well that's what i think this put nicholas cave in as the leader in the yes villain he's got a giant forehead does he dye his hair though do you want to ask him i feel like he does all right okay if we ever see him we need to ask him two questions absolutely not gladiator 2 we've never met but do you dye your hair tell me honestly and now tell me all about gladiator 2 yes now that i've got you on side could you just put it on google drive and send me the link just put the script up come on yeah but that's what i think this new disney streaming service

is i think it's well obviously it is it's characters from the movies tied directly into the cinematic universe you know he put a lot of money behind it special effects and make them limited series yeah that's what i think it's going to be anyway there's going to be a video on all the upcoming tv shows and movies on my channel this week mason we're doing it together we haven't recorded it yet but you excited for that yes anyway next up we have inhumans yuck i just i just looked at netflix and a couple of other streaming things just to see if it's available and i haven't found it of course it's not yeah it'd be on abc if it's on anything yeah again and look i i would highly recommend i remember enjoying our inhumans episode it's like episode 200 and something. Yeah. We watched the first two episodes.

And the show is, if you can imagine, the Hunger Games, but from the perspective of Donald Sutherland. Yes. Imagine Donald Sutherland's the hero, the man who has it all. He's rich and he's in a position of power. And the powerless man, the downtrodden, who just wants to free the oppressed, he's the bad guy, apparently. I very much feel like that show was greenlit. Because maybe Ike Perlmutter, is he still the TV runner of Marvel? Yeah, I think he has a big hand in it.

Right. Yeah. I get the sense that that guy, who seems very conservative, like i'm gonna green light this but you have to say that uh the the poor deserve to stay where they are that's the that's the the the what we need what we need to really lay on thick here is that you should stay in your station do not do not strive for anything better than your loss yeah that is the premise of this show anyway it's a great show no it's bad and they they're still trapped on the moon yes well that's interesting isn't it that that's yeah in the marvel you in the marvel cinematic universe proper it's not even on

google play it's on abc i said you can stream it on abc do i have that i don't no definitely how would i get that it's one of those things where you go to the website because it's do i have that i don't no definitely how would i get that it's one of those things where you go to the website because it's region it's like oh that or if you use a vpn it's like great what's your at&t login it's like you got me that's true i will not pay for this no okay step one get an american credit card step two i'm not it's not happening um yeah it's it's fascinating. But what is interesting is the idea that they exist. They live on the moon. In this MCU universe with Captain America and the Avengers and the Defenders and all this sort of stuff,

also the Inhumans live on the moon. They live on the moon. They're just up there. Well, they're still in Hawaii. We don't know. We don't know because I don't know how that season ended. I so i went to hawaii like a week after i saw that it was so weird you might have seen the inhumans there just wandering around clueless yeah if you recall that one of the characters whose ability is that he can has precognitive visions of the future and

that makes him the world's greatest tactician just falls off a hill he puts his foot he puts his foot wrong and he falls down a hill and he gets a concussion. That's one of the characters. That's right, then he walks in a circle. Then he walks in a circle, yeah. Great. Also, there's a guy

who is like, he has like, he's like a powerful Gorgon, like he's a half man, half horse kind of character. Oh yeah, he's got those horse feet.

He walks in the ocean and nearly drowns. Yeah. The dumbest characters. Looking for dumbest character looking for the king or whatever yeah he's not in the ocean why would it be in the ocean nobody's in the ocean nobody alive is in the ocean yeah ridiculous and not good at imax the worst thing that you could put in imMAX. Incredible. Just cheap as shit. Also, they're living in Earth apartments on the moon. Yeah. It's so weird. Yeah.

What a show. And again, the bad guy, all he wants to do is to move every... His plan is to move all the Inhumans to Earth. Yeah. Not to enslave humanity. Just so they don't have to work underground in the mines anymore. And they're like... We won't do it. And the royal the royal family's like no we prefer things the way they are actually well then you're the bad guys yeah i'm glad you died you're stuck on hawaii or whatever if your power

yeah imagine being stuck in hawaii how awful yeah but so because i remember if your powers are subpar or don't appear when you're whatever age and you get exposed to the terrogen mist you just have to work in a mine. Yep. Unless you're the guy whose face is a projector that can show memories, which case they'll keep you in a cupboard and just wheel you out whenever they need to watch something. Okay.

What a show. They're also going to do damage control. Remember they talked about that a lot. That's right. I feel like that DC powerless show probably because it got in first and then got canceled, probably killed that. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. You know, what's fascinating about all this stuff though. Yes. that DC Powerless show probably because it got in first and then got cancelled probably killed that yes yeah

yeah you know what's fascinating about all this stuff though yes they haven't retconned any of it yet they haven't been like you know what

we will do an Inhumans movie that's true yeah and they haven't recast and done any I mean they've they've changed castings or whatever but

it's gonna come I think it's gonna have to come to a point where they're like oh no we want to use this version of Ghost Rider or no, we want Daredevil in the movies and then they're going to have to make a decision about, do they bring back

the Black Bolt from the Inhumans? Yeah, right, exactly. Or they just leave them alone forever. I just tried to look there, is there a database of who lives and who dies after the Infinity War? Then I'll snap. I can't find the Inhumans on there. Where are they?

Are they still on the moon? They're just in a way. Yeah, I guess they're in a way. They all walked into the ocean. Yeah, I guess that's probably... They probably all died by misadventure way prior to that. Yeah. Oh, man.

What a world. That Snap really fucked up these TV shows as well because all the timelines like... That's true, yeah. Yeah, because aren't all the Defenders set in 2016 or something as well? Didn't somebody say in the newspaper? Anyway, we've got a couple to go. The Runaways from last year. That's true, yeah. Yeah, because aren't all the Defenders set in 2016 or something as well? Didn't somebody say in the newspaper? Anyway, we've got a couple to go. The Runaways from last year.

It's on Hulu. I watched the first three. It's not bad. How'd you feel? I liked it. Do you like the comic book it's based on? I haven't read it, but I know you have read it.

Yes. Yeah, I don't know. But no, I haven't gone back, but I liked it. Cool. And then there's the other one, which I haven't seen. Then you didn't like it that much if you didn't go back.

Exactly. There's a dinosaur in it. How's the CGI of the dinosaur? Not terrible for TV. Great. Yeah, which is a stirring endorsement. And also Cloak and Dagger is on Freeform, which I haven't. No idea how to access that.

Have not seen it. Did you have AT&T? No. Is it even called AT&T? Don't know. Who's to say? So I'd like to talk about those more

but I can't we shall not Cloak Cloak and Dagger one of them throws light diamonds and the other one can one's a spooky ghost

spooky ghost shadow person yeah yeah I think this is all going to change I think in a few years all of these are going to be dead yeah

look a lot of people have said good things about Cloak and Dagger but nobody has ever pointed me to a definitive, oh my God, this is excellent because this, oh my God, there's a sequence where this happens. It's always just like, yeah, it's good. Do you like Cloaks?

Do you like Dagger? Yeah, I do like both of those things. It's too vague though. You want specifics. Yeah, exactly. How are they being used? Yeah. Anyway, bring back the cape.

That's what I say. Put that into the MCU. The man with the magic cape who can snatch a gun out of your hand. Oh, terrific. What was that about? Who knows? Is it even real? It's real.

Was it a mad TV sketch? The cape. You know the cape, right? Not really. They even reference it in community, the TV show community. It doesn't matter. Yeah, but when I say these will be cancelled, I feel like all of this is going to be gone in a couple of years right i think they're going to tighten all this up and make these event

releases yeah right on the disney streaming service maybe like uh like what star wars is doing yeah how do you feel about how do you feel about like a maybe a defenders one-shot movie yeah disney streaming definitely yeah i like that definitely mason yes and that's the end of this segment uh just a bunch of shit we remember about tv shows we've half watched it's it's the end of our segment now's our chance to rag on inhumans again because boy was it bad we drove out to some weird we went like 50 minutes because we went to the there was only one one IMAX cinema showing it. It was the little IMAX. I'd never, it looked like just a big regular screen. Like a VMAX. Yeah.

There was like two other people in there. Or maybe that was just a mirror and it was us. Yeah. But yeah, man. Maybe that was just our future selves warning us not to go in. Yeah. But what do you think? Okay.

Just quickly. On the whole, has this been a success yes there we go yeah i think look i would tend to dvs but it could be better it could certainly be better tentative yes but just in terms of again having just watched dead evil season three just in terms of some of that stuff i think that's a I think it's worth it just for that. I mean, it hasn't been my hundreds of millions of dollars producing this stuff. No. So maybe I would feel differently if I worked at Marvel and I was looking at some red tape.

Would you like to look at red tape at Marvel? No. Okay. You're free to go. Thank you. You know what segment it is now then? What are we going to read? What are we doing?

Good stuff. I'm doing a thing. You know what segment it is now then? What are we going to read? I'm doing the thing What are we reading today? I'd love to know what you're reading I have just started watching Castlevania on Netflix I've heard good things I watched the first season The first four minutes that they released of it So if you watched the first season or the first four minutes of one episode well they only released

17 minutes of it or whatever it was the first season's like really short or nothing yeah right it's like two episodes or whatever okay yeah i'm liking it so far yeah i've heard good things i mean it's very it's quite uh alakad yeah it's quite bloody for a... For a Castlevania property mason? Well, I mean, what am I expecting? It's vampires, Mason. I guess that's true, but it's also like demons eating babies. Oh, that's no good. Yeah, right.

It's fun, though. It's good. Do they cook them? No, just straight out of the crib. What the hell? Straight out of the crib into the gob. Nah, that's no good. Yeah.

So, you've watched it all? No, I've started it. How many episodes is it? I don't know. How many do you think it should be? I'm just going to keep going until many do you think it should be? I'm just going to keep going until it... I think it should be tennis season. Tennis seasons.

Yeah. Excellent. Did you ever play tennis? You played tennis as a kid? Yeah. And? I was bad at it. Okay.

Yeah, it got progressively worse. Progressively? That's the opposite of what usually happens. I know, right? But you know what? I also lost interest because it was... I had to deal with really competitive kids. Yeah.

And I don't care for that. And the funny thing is all of those kids are now world champion tennis players. Disagree. Disagree. Yeah, that's one of those things you don't realize when you're a kid, but to be an elite athlete, the best kid you're playing didn't make it ever.

Oh, that's true. Yeah. I've been playing Red Dead. Yes. That's great. Tell me all about it. It's more, I've been playing Red Dead yes that's great tell me all about it it's more I liked Red Dead the first one

well not the first one because there's one before the Rockstar you know what I'm talking about the last one yeah Red Dead Redemption yeah

that's my favourite Rockstar game I prefer them more to the GTA games where it's the radio just like it's me Johnny Fuckface

and everybody's got boner patrols on the you know it's just that have you ever listened's me, Johnny Fuckface. Everybody's got Mona Patrols on the... You know, it's just that. Have you ever listened to a GTA radio? No, but I'd love to hear you say more about it. That's it. That's all the things. Just repeat it endlessly. Yeah. You know, just really kind of obvious and not good humour. Yep. But Red Dead's more kind of

it's slower in terms of you know, when you're on a horse. For a lot of it. That's true. The story's more... You're not listening to a gramophone? No. It's playing the Boner Patrol? Hey, it's me, Johnny.

Yeah, but it's... What's it say? It's more team focused as in because you're in a gang. Okay. The gang that's mentioned in the first one. Right. It's a prequel to that. So are you battling with...

Do you have an AI team following you around? Yeah, and so a lot of the missions aren't you riding out on your own, which you can do. You're doing it with people and you're having conversations and we're friends and we know each other from this

and let's go rob this train and remember that person, whatever. So it does a better job of kind of, yeah, making it not feel like you're alone in the wilderness as much, unless you want to do that. I think it's, there's detail in it, which I think is entirely unnecessary like there's bits where you know if you if you skin an animal that you shoot first of all you can't just shoot an animal and take its

pelt okay you can but you got to shoot it with a proper bow or an arrow or a specific gun and you got to hit it in the head or the neck otherwise the pelt isnelt isn't as good. Okay, right. So it's just hunting. It shouldn't be that... I don't know why you put that level of detail into it. You've got to polish your guns and that to make them work properly. Oh, to maintain them. Which I don't actually mind.

There's elements I don't... It sounds like it's edging towards micromanagement to me. There's a lot of that. There is. Am I going to get stuck on the character creation scene? Like picking the boots out? There's a lot of clothing stuff which I actually

I went cowboy hat off I'm like you know I'm not doing this not a cowboy hat well I got knocked off in a fight and I never found it again wow

at one point so and then you can purchase another hat you can purchase one or you can pick up one off a dead guy or whatever and you've gone past

hat stores yep and hat stalls I don't want a hat and a wagon selling hats and men with dead men, people throwing hats at you,

and you've not picked up another hat. Yeah, people playing hat through the hoop, when you're trying to throw a hat. Hat through the hoop, yeah, yeah, yeah,

yeah. But, it's also, where there's a whole bunch of people, stuck in a hat factory, to shoot you way out, didn't think to pick up a single hat. Yeah,

and like the red, the dead eye system, returns when you do the slow motion shoot, but, I get killed a lot, because I'm just, I'm just used to third-person cover-based shooters. What is this? This is first-person?

No, it can be first-person, but it is third-person, but it's more kind of... It's easier to get shot, I find it is. So if there's like four people coming at me, I'm like, oh, I'm going to die. I'm going to run. But you get better, obviously. But I get killed by a bear and a cougar. An attractive older lady. Yes, that's right that's right but look it's if you like any of the rockstar games

then yeah okay you probably already have it but if you don't yeah you're not gonna like it they're sick guns or is it just like six shooters all the time you get a bunch of different guns you can throw dynamite and shotguns and and whatever yeah but i think they're throwing a shotgun and there's little there's like animations where like you got to take the saddle off your horse and you see it all and you take it off and then you walk over and you put like i don't need any of that i just don't need the and you can't change your clothing on the horse when you're riding at a certain pace but if you slow down you can but it's also an instant change so it's not even realistic when you change like what does it matter how fast you're going this thing that happens instantly there's just things like that it sounds like i'm not enjoying

it which is not true i am it's just but i guess if it's a if it's an experience you really enjoy but there are some things that drag it down yeah like if you if you're like oh this is a super fun immersive experience and i'm having a lot of fun but i have to you know i have to move the saddle or whatever yeah like that breaks the rhythm, doesn't it? Yeah. And I guess it also adds to, or supposed to add to immersion and you're in this world and. Yeah, right.

But then, you know, when you can instantly switch clothing, it's like, well, what are you, what are you aiming for here? That's true. Anyway, they, a lot of people, you know, broke their back to make this game as I'm sure you've seen the articles, but other people have said. Well, a lot of people broke their backs to create the TV series Inhumans didn't they I don't think they did

I feel like everybody half-arsed it look I hate to say it but anyway we've got to move on unless you've got another thing oh Batman Ninjas just appeared on Netflix

has it yeah okay give that a whirl yeah alright because that's something that I have wanted to watch but it's been slightly

inconvenient to do so so I haven't people say insane or good or insane or bad. That's what I've heard. People have said great visuals, bit bland. Bit bland? We'll see, won't we?

Yeah, that's interesting. We'll see, all right. Should we do the letters segment of the show? Let's do the letters segment. I'll do the letters theme. That's what I'm all about. That's what I'm all about too. The classic one was letters, oh letters, we love you.

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Great. Mason, Mike says on Twitter, hashtag WeHearPlanetPod, hey guys, any word or thoughts on the DC streaming service or Doom Patrol? As far as I know, it's still not available in Australia. So I have not watched. No.

Also, Doom Patrol is, they're still filming it, aren't they? I think so, yeah. Brendan Fraser's the robot. Yep. Or the voice of. Yep. Could be something.

Could be something, yeah. Will it be something though? Anything, everything is something, Mason. What was everything is last TV effort Titans Titans still not out here I don't think yeah because we know the streaming service unless it's going to Netflix it is going to Netflix but nothing appears when we go to times and it's like when it arrives you'll be the first to know I don't really want to know you don't have to tell me go out of your way I was gonna say what's what's DC done recently

but they've done all the CW shows. Yes, they're doing everything all the time, yeah. They're building a universe, a shared universe of TV characters. Do you have a Jamail? Well, speaking of,

this is from Cameron Gill. He said, I've just finished reading Neil Gaiman's Norse Mythology. Oh yeah, you're a fan of that. I love it, it's a good book. And thought it would be great to see some of these

original myths adapted to the episodes of MCU's Loki series. Ah, okay. How do you feel about that? Yeah, that sounds good. He says, I think it would be a lot of fun to see Tom Hiddleston's Loki in some of these stories. Also, he says, also I'm pretty sure some people on the internet

would love to see Hiddleston in the myth where Loki gives birth to an eight-legged horse. Me too. Yeah. Should Marvel look at the North mythology for Loki's inspiration? How do you feel about that? Where do you think he should exist? Do you want him on Earth?

What do you want him? I want weird cosmic God space stuff. Yeah, right. I mean, you can go to Earth occasionally, but he's just in a suit with a walking stick or whatever. It's true, yeah. It's not as interesting. It's like, what if Loki worked in a clock store?

All right. Wait, what if he did work in a clock store? Yeah, I don't know. I mean, why would he? Magic clocks? You are building the perfect episode right here. Why would he? What's his game, you know?

Why is he in a clock store? Yeah, why is he in a clock store? How did he get that job? What was the interview like? Yeah. He is trickery. Or do you reckon he did the interview for real because he wanted to be real? Maybe that's it, yeah.

Do you reckon he's dead? Yeah. But how are they. Or do you reckon he did the interview for real because he wanted to be real? Maybe that's it. Yeah. Do you reckon he's dead? Yeah. But how are they going to bring him back? Oh. Because he wasn't just obliterated by the snap. He was choked to death. I mean, he was obliterated by a form of snap.

His neck. Yes, that's true. Yeah. Maybe that counts. The original snap of the neck. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I would kind of like to... you know what i would like to say maybe not maybe not he goes we see him go through the original myths because that is back in the past

yeah maybe the ramifications of the myths oh okay because you know it'd be it'd be like a my name is earl kind of situation where he has to go back and apologise for all the bad deeds he's done. Maybe he has to go back and he has to be a good dad to the eight-legged horse. Oh man, and work in a clock store. Work in a clock store, exactly. I think that would be good, like modern reinterpretations or like, because I'm sure there would be people out there who are, who have done some

extensive research on Loki and do love the original. Yeah. Maybe like yeah, the adventures of he has to go back and atone for all his misdeeds i think that would be fun that would be good my name is loki exactly i like it got another tweet here uh from i am scrub step have you guys checked out neil blomkamp short films on youtube from oat studios they're pretty incredible and what are your thoughts yes i have i like them a lot it just makes me want him to make the alien film more and more which

he's probably not going to. Or District 10, which he probably also won't make. Sigourney Weaver, I think, said recently that he's too busy doing other things now to do Alien. Like, he's kind of moved on. Well, he's doing Robocop Returns. Yep. And I want District 10.

Yeah, same. I'm interested in everything that guy does, even if I don't love all these movies. But I kind of like all these movies, even the ones that people hate. Yeah. So, no, i think they're so they're weird and horrible that a lot of those films yes but in a good way yeah uh do you have a particular favorite one uh give me some options what a good question yeah there's one like the vietnam one where the the weird oh yeah yeah okay um that was one of the the weird monster. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.

That was one of the earlier ones, I think. I think that one, yeah, I think, yeah. I should re-watch them again, I think. Zygote, the one where the big ball of hands and arms and human, remember that? Yes. Human bodies after people. Yeah. Yeah.

I think it might be the Vietnam one. Yeah, okay. Which gets reworded real quick. Raka, the one about the weird mind-reading aliens or lizard aliens. This stuff is just out on youtube yeah isn't it wild there's got some decent views on these as well though i'm glad there's looks like there's so much money in them and also a lot of this also seems to be like a lot of people do this stuff on the cheap they're like i'll work on this because i love this particular thing yeah but no i think this is a really maybe he was getting fed up with the studio systems or maybe after

like Chappie he wasn't getting the kind of phone calls or yeah right right I think this probably helped him out in a big way

so I'll watch anything sad in South Africa but it's sort of the future yeah you know that absolutely yeah

another letter or should we wrap it up let me see hurry up Mason I got a bloody podcast to edit. All right. Okay, this is from Liam. Okay, Liam.

Hey guys, love the show. Thank you. With the release of Lord of the Rings on Netflix and watching The Fellowship of the Ring for the hundredth time, it got me thinking, do you think we'll ever get an MCU movie in that vein with a group of characters

having to get a thing from A to B? If so, how would you picture that movie going? Oh, that's a big question. I reckon maybe that might be the Falcon. Getting A to B? Yeah. The shield from A to B? Getting the shield from A to B and have Volkswagen. picture that movie going oh that's a big question i reckon maybe that might be the falcon getting a to b yeah the shield from a to b getting the shield from a to b and that volkswagen we've talked about a happy i'm just i'm just very easily swayed by that photo of them in the volkswagen well that's you you took pitch the happy hogan movie where he goes across america making

sandwiches and delivering captain america's shield that's true did you pitch that at one point probably that sounds like something i would say yeah do. So what about that, Mason? Yes, I love it. Yeah. Love it. Well, there's a... Old Man Logan is about delivering super serum. Yeah. See, that's the thing.

It can only really work in a... Why are they doing it? Why are they road tripping when they could probably just fly or teleport or any number of things? So it has to exist in a universe where that cannot happen. Yes. Like maybe, what about a daredevil foggy road trip? Nah. Yeah, nah, that'd be good.

Just him going, you haven't been a good friend to me, Matt Murdock. And I've had a haircut. And I've had to keep driving because you are literally blind. He'd be a great driver. Yeah, I think he would. Yeah. It amazes me that he didn't do any driving in season three. Oh, yeah.

He would jump in a cab though, wouldn't he? Yeah, he will. That's true. Yeah, great. Yeah, good stuff. Yeah, so that's the idea for the thing that we said. Whatever the thing was just then, isn't it? Yeah, that's exactly what we're doing.

That's a good question though. Thank you. I wish we had more time, Mason, but I have to edit this and cut this out. That's true. So wrap us up, bring us home. Okay. Thanks everybody for bloody listening.

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I was surprised there, but we did it for the video. We've got options for next week, right? Yep. Now, I'd like to do the Harry Potter films, like the next two. Yes. We've done the video. We have. I was surprised there, but we did it for the video. We've got options for next week, right? Yep. Now, I'd like to do the Harry Potter films, like the next two. Yes. But maybe we should do the first two Rocky films for Creed. Because next week is nothing. And then it's Fantastic Beasts.

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if we don't do it next week. That's true. Okay, let's watch Rocky 1 and 2. Okay, so everyone, we're watching Rocky 1 and 2 for next week. Everybody get your TiVos ready.

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I'm thinking nothing wow yeah I'm the Grinch Claire calls me the Grinch of Christmas but I think that's just the Grinch

that's just the Grinch isn't it that's what she says but does she also call you the Grinch of other things no just Christmas I think she might have

called me the Grinch of Halloween the other day that's what we call a tautology oh the Grinch of Christmas Grinch is all about

do you want to quickly talk about your dad's Halloween son my dad does not care oh christmas grinch is all about do you want to quickly talk about your dad's halloween sign my dad does not care for halloween evidently oh really and he put up a he got a box like some sort of he'd been delivered a package and he wrote i showed up there and he'd written in terrifying handwriting in play it Please do not disturb. And he's underlined please,

because he's not a fan of children showing up for Halloween, I guess. But it is... I don't think he realised that it looks... He thinks it looks like a sign that says, please do not come into this house. But I feel it looks... It's terrifying enough that it looks like... It could be a Halloween.

It could be a Halloween. Don't come into this haunted house. could be too haunted look out did you get anyone knocking on the door i don't think so yeah yeah there was a halloween kind of uh themed party in my neighborhood which we went to with my son which was a lot of fun a lot of spider-mans yes it's clearly the most popular character i see why it sells the most most merch yeah all kids are just spider-man yeah yeah uh we we did the candy thing and my house because this is my first halloween here is just a thoroughfare it turns out yeah i don't know what it's on the way to everything yeah right so i was trying to put my son to bed and the door would ring every two or three minutes and eventually i put a bowl out there just like with no sign so people could take one yeah and and then i just the dog kept going mental my son kept waking up and coming out so i just packed it all up i went out because claire put up some halloween decoration i just took them all

down because i'm like i have to edit i have i can't be getting up every two some kids found me i used to teach i don't even live anywhere near where I used to teach. Well, they sought you out. They found me, Mason. Wow. But no, it's fun. It really is. I like it. See, it sounds to me like you're a little bit of a Grinch for Halloween. Maybe I am, Mason.

Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, is that the show? I think it is. Let's say thank you to The Brute and The Basilisk and Rack and Frolla Musical Themes. Yes. We bloody love them. How do they do it? Like this.

I mean, they only did it once. Computron. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. It was a one-off effort, wasn't it? Yeah, it was. Yeah. Okay. Thanks, everybody. okay thanks everybody grabbed our jam you guys we'll see you next week goodbye this podcast is part of the planet broadcasting network visit planet broadcasting dot com for more podcasts from our great mates i mean if you want it's up to you

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