The Weekly Planet - 260 The Rocky Films

Episode Date: November 12, 2018

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This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. Welcome back everybody to another episode of The Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday. With me as always is my co-host Nick Mason. I was throwing up intense sharkers for no reason. I was psyching myself up for the episode. I thought you were going to talk about how you vomit profusely

before the show because of nerves every week. People don't know that about you. That's true, yeah. You have to gear up every time. You know I do. That's why he's never got a letter ready because he's supposed to be getting a letter ready. You're like, Mace, how could you get a letter ready?

And I'm like, letters, that means the show. I used to sweat during the recording of any podcast. Did you? The first half a dozen. Really? Of these? Of ours? Yeah, of ours.

Just sweating through. Well, well. Well. Would it be nice of you to ask? Yeah. Often, though, when you record a podcast with somebody, it's just very hot in the room. That's true.

Yeah, because you can't put any fans on or anything. It's just awful. That's why I've always proposed a cooling vest. We invent a cooling vest for podcasters. Yes. It's got liquid nitrogen in it. But it's just for podcasters. Just for podcasters.

You cannot use it for any other reason. Speaking of cooling. It'll be very volatile, so you can't move. Well, why would you? Because you don't need to move. It's podcasting. That's right. Anyway, with the new studio that we're building, Mason,

it's going to have air conditioning to the podcast booth. Air conditioning to the premises. That's right. How's it going to be quiet? Well, it's going to hopefully be filtered in through because it's going to be in the room but as a separate pod. Oh. Yeah.

So that's the idea. This is some Elon Musk style technology. It has to be, Mason. If you're going to do podcasting, you've got to do it seriously. But also, I've always said that. You've always said that too. That's right. That might be pushed back a week, not a week, more than a week,

because I put a video up this week about how Defy stole a whole bunch of money from me and a whole bunch of other people. Is there any legal ramification from you saying they stole your money? They did steal my money. It's my money. And they, they took it from me. Now for anybody who doesn't know, Defy is a YouTube network.

Multi-channel network. Right. Okay. And you were signed with them. Yep. Like a, like a Larry Bird. Like a Larry Bird.

Yeah. Just like Larry Bird. Yeah. And, uh, yeah. And the money that from YouTube, anyway,

I talk about in the video, it's on my channel. I'm not going to go through it again. So yeah, that's, that's good of them to do that is it no basically it's the opposite uh but anyway thank you to all the support for anyone thanks to fi now we won't have a sweet elon musk style air conditioner uh also we finally recorded our second q a for the uh charity campaign which is up now if you've uh contributed to that campaign, that's good, because otherwise, if you haven't,

it's too late. You can't get this. But if you want to see the Q&A, it is in the description of the previous Q&A. So just go to that, and it's all there. Terrific. Terrific. So bloody check that out. Also, do we need any updates on our... Oh, sorry. Also, Claire's live show is coming up 9th of December

in Melbourne, Halibur. Tickets are $30. Discount with the promo code PODCASTDOG. That's linked below as well. Come along. Jess Warnke and Dave Warnke are going to be there, that famous couple. Yep. Yeah, from Do Go On.

Jess Perkins, Dave Warnke, who are currently touring with Matt in New York. Merry old London. Do Go On. That's not true. Yes. Another thing, Mason, do you want to do a quick update on our hot scoop from the week, from last week? Which I should have clarified more, I feel like. That was a very vague rumor that I heard.

I feel, and potentially it's because I don't listen when this podcast is being recorded. I was under the impression when you said that, because you made the proclamation based on a source that the actor Matt Smith was going to be in Star Wars Episode IX as Emperor Palpatine. Emperor Sheev Palpatine. In some way. When you said that, I was under the impression this was some sort of inside...

No, it's a person who emailed us anonymously who knows a person who works for them. Right, okay. Which I did highlight in our segment Hot Scoop or Shot of Poop. So I saw some people defending us online, which I appreciate, which was like, well, they'll write about the Tom Hiddleston, sorry, the Matt Damon Loki thing from Thor. But that was way different.

Like we appreciate it, but that was a surefire thing. Yes, that's true. That we knew was happening. This is not that. But this has got a lot more traction or the same amount of traction. Yeah, yeah. But anyway, I thank you more traction. Or the same amount of traction. It seems to have, yeah. But anyway, I thank you to all those websites who did include the hot scoop or shot of poop. As was a proviso of them using the rumor.

They had to say, this is from the hot scoop or shot of poop segment. Yes. Some people didn't, looking at you, Esquire. Yeah. Online magazine. But really appreciate those people who went out of their way to call those websites on not using the correct segment of the show for the rumor that's very likely untrue. Terrific. Thanks for, well, look, again.

Hey, man, I can eat the poop. It's true. It's the rule. That is the rule. Yeah, that's true. You live by the poop, you die by the poop, Mason. Exactly, yeah. All right.

On to the news, because, Mason, it's a big week of TV spinoffs. Is it? Yes, it's a huge week. It's all pretty much TV spinoffs. That Driving Miss Daisy spinoff I've always been wanting. Was that a... I mean, spinoffs of TV series. Oh.

Or spinoffs that aren't... Yes. In all... Answer the question, yes. Okay, great. Terrific. First up, we've got Star Trek Discovery. Looks like it's going to be getting a spinoff with Michelle Yeoh's character.

Yes. Emperor Philippa Georgiou, who, if you remember that, oh, who's she in that series? Do you remember? Not really. Okay, so she was the captain of a starship for the Federation. Yes. She's the mentor of Michael Burnham, who's killed very early in the season. Spoilers for all this.

And then when they skip over to the evil dimension, where nobody's got a goatee, which is ridiculous. Yeah, that's weird. That's a poor man's mirror universe, if you ask me. Yeah, it certainly is. They find the other version of her, who is the emperor of their version of the Federation, the evil Federation.

And she ends up coming back to the regular dimension. And so the spinoff, I guess, is going to be about, I guess, redemption or something? I don't know. Or maybe just an evil person flying a starship around. Yes, being evil. Being evil. Yeah.

So I think that's not a bad idea. Also, Michelle Yeoh is great. So it was a shame to see her go so early, but it was good to see her return as an evil empress or whatever. Are you going to be returning to Star Trek? Discovery? I think so, yeah. Me too.

Are you looking forward to Picard? Yes. Yeah. Yes. Did you watch all of Generate? Not Generations. The Next Generation. No, I was more of a Deep Space Nine kind of guy.

Yeah. I watched a lot of it. Yeah. Yeah, but I don't think I'd re-watch it. No. I know a lot of it yeah but I don't think I'd re-watch it I know a lot of people who are just like yeah I'm starting again from episode one

Star Trek The Next Generation years and years of this that's what I'm subjecting myself to I tried to start it but it was I was like this is very dated

and I know I need to do that thing that you often talk about where you just watch the good ones where like just watch this episode

from each season or whatever that's what you need to know and the Borg War and whatever else yeah just watch the highlights anyway. Just watch this episode from each season or whatever. That's all you need to know. And the Borg War and whatever else. Yeah, just watch the highlights. Anyway, that's one television spinoff, Mason. And the next one is The Walking Dead did the bravest thing imaginable that a television show could possibly do.

Oh, I'm ready to hear about this. They took a bold risk because all year they've been setting up the death or at least the exit, spoilers, of Rick Grimes from The Walking Dead. The main guy. Last week he fell off a horse onto a steel girder that went through his side. Yeah, went through his butthole. Wow. Yeah.

That's the end to any man. It certainly is. But doing the break. The bitter end. That's right. His butt. His butt. As I said, they did the bravest thing possible,

and they faked out his death. So there was an explosion, and he fell off a bridge, and he washed up somewhere or something. I didn't watch it. And they're going to do a Walking Dead, Rick Grimes, AMC movie trilogy of that character. Wow. Apparently, he's never going to return to the show,

but he's going to do the Rick Grimes trilogy. Wow. They're fleshing out the universe. So they've got Fear the Walking Dead at the moment, and then Walking Dead, they're doing this, and apparently they're going to do a whole bunch of other stuff related to The Walking Dead. Rick, you were going to die, but the explosion would have killed you,

but this huge piece of shrapnel just went through the hole where your butthole was going to be. Lucky for you. Lucky, you lived. Yeah, so there you go. Happy about that? No. I mean, I'm not unhappy.

I'm just indifferent because I don't watch the show. Yeah, that's how The Walking Dead keeps people with stunts like this. I don't think there's enough compelling stuff in the actual show to keep it going. So just every now and then. They did it with Glenn. They did it with Glenn? They pretended to kill him.

Another character I don't know. Glenn fell off a fence and he fell down and you saw... His butthole. You saw his butthole and the zombies were ripping his guts out. But it turns out that somebody had fallen on top of him. Oh, the zombies were ripping their guts out. Yeah, and he crawled under a dumpster. But then half a season later, he got his head caved in anyway.

Okay. But by that point, it was like, well, you kind of did this already. Because everybody already grieved Glenn. Yeah, come on, Glenn. Four episodes prior to this. The boy who cried Glenn, if you ask me. The Glenn who cried guts. Yep.

Yep. That's the Glenn who cried guts. My guts! Rick, what's Rick doing? What's his deal? In general? But I mean, why? Is he going to go away and get a new set of sassy friends in the movies?

Or is he just going to be a weird loner? It's strange because he's still got a daughter and a love interest. But if he's never going back to the show, they're going to have to concoct a reason that he would never return. That's what I'm talking about. So is it amnesia? Does his family then come with him in these new series? You know what I mean? I just, yeah.

So what happened at the end of at the end of this season yeah what where did he end up like did he disappear were people like where's rick what's that they think he's dead and a helicopter picked him up or something so you see that happen apparently okay terrific yeah so it's very brave though it's a brave decision to spin off this franchise uh by faking out the death of the lead character. Yes, I guess. Don't you think? Yes, I mean, they did it with Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.

It's brave. No, they did. That's actually true. It's true. But that's a great show, probably. Yeah, but it's not as brave, though, is it? No, it's not. Because it's a show that fewer people like, or more people like.

Yeah. This is strange to me. I want to have more thoughts about The Walking Dead. The show you haven't seen. Please continue. Or you haven't read the comic. No, I was strange to me. I have more thoughts about The Walking Dead. The show you haven't seen. Please continue or you haven't read the comic. No, I was going to say I know the TV show.

So would a character get amnesia? Is it the kind of show where a character would be like I'll be hit in the head and I don't remember anything. I can see that being that. Yeah.

But have they ever done anything? Or he's too far away because you can only get well they actually got a helicopter so I don't remember the helicopter falls out of the sky

and they can't use the helicopter anymore. I don't know man. I don't know. I I remember the helicopter falls out of the sky and they can't use the helicopter anymore. I don't know, man. I don't know. I don't want to justify any of this. None of these are my decisions that I have to live with. Yeah. It baffles me, though, that Breaking Bad is also an AMC show.

Yeah, right. It's crazy that they're the same network. And that's Metacorp's all, obviously. But we are getting a Breaking Bad sequel, spinoff movie, I guess. Yes i guess that's right is this fit into spinoffs i put it in here great thank god uh starring aaron paul as jesse pinkman pinkman yeah what do you think of that sounds pretty cool and we already got that need for speed follow-up we already saw what happened he got in a car and he was really sad yeah and he was driving after driving after his family. What happened in this movie? He did a race. He did a race?

You saw the first ten minutes of Need for Speed, didn't you? It was so dull. Yeah. It might have been the first one minute of Need for Speed because it was so slow. Really? The movie Need for Speed? Yeah. Maybe that's the best video game movie.

It is not. You don't know that? It's just a guy in a car. But that's the thing. Need for Speed, the franchise franchise is just driving around there's no plot in a car yeah i think they should get rid of open world racing games okay because i that's very brave of you well i thank you it's amc brave but i feel like a lot of games now they give you this huge map and then you've got to drive to the start of a race and you're just

racing through the same town in different directions. Okay. My favorite Need for Speed game is, I think it's Hot Pursuit, which is from, like, 2010 or 2011. I was going to say Hot Pursuit. Hot Pursuit. Just because it's the most fun to say. I think the Burnout guys did it, if you ever played those Burnout games.

But it's different tracks for every mission. And you don't have to drive to the start of a track. You're just at the start of the track. Oh, I see what you're saying. You know? So in a lot of the... Sick of open world! Okay.

See, I haven't played a race... I've been playing too much Red Dead. I'm sick of running around on a horse. I haven't played enough racing games, modern racing games, to be aware. So what you're saying is in a lot of modern racing games, it's always the same city. You just drive in different places. Yeah, and it's got different parts because you go to the forest and you go to the whatever but i want an actual track that's built specifically for you you know i don't make it 12 make it four i don't know i don't care

but just make them good i don't want this open world crap where you got to go and then it's and also around the world there's like different challenges and see if you can get all these tokens as quickly as you can why are you so afraid of challenges? I don't like challenge to be challenge Mason. I know you don't. Either in my video games or on my ideas. Yeah. Anyway, the Breaking Bad sequel.

This is something I am looking forward to. Do you think they'll ever bring back Bryan Cranston? No. You don't think there's wiggle room for him to be alive? That he crawled under a dumpster until his cancer got away? My guts! He goes to the doctor and the doctor's like, actually, Mr. White,

it turns out somebody else's guts had cancer, so you're fine. Hooray! Hooray! So I just heard the door slam. I was going to check if there's anybody in my house. Everybody be cool, just for a sec. It was just Greg slamming doors.

My wife, Greg. She loves a door slam. I don't know if you know. My wife, Greg. She loves a door slam. I don't know if you know that about her, Mason. I didn't know that. Sometimes when my son's asleep. My hun. My son's asleep. He sleeps less now.

When the hun's asleep. The hun never sleeps. Buy war bonds. If he's having a nap during the day, I'm like, listen, I know you're going out. Can you just not slam the door on your way out? She's like, I never slam the door. And I'm like, you slam it literally every time. Can you just please? And she's like, I know you're going out can you just not slam the door on your way out she's like I never slam the door and I'm like you slam it literally every time

can you just please and she's like how dare you she just did it just did it then did everybody just do that just did it then

and she'll just slam it and I'm like look I'm not having a go at you I'm not trying to start a fight just please don't slam the door

wow this is really going to start a fight if your wife listens to this podcast which she will not i don't mind putting some insights into a failing marriage into a podcast mason okay do you know that about me i'm very open yeah anyway so you don't think brian cranston's uh they're gonna swap out his guts i think there's a chance they could bring him back well i mean he didn't yeah i mean there is but i think we'll definitely get a flashback yes for sure yeah but i mean I feel like that would be an immensely cheap shot

And I think an audience that would lap up kind of like Well, it's a different set of guts, Rick, or whatever your name is I think the Walking Dead audience is probably It's the kind of genre where people would enjoy the switcheroo But I think in this, if you're like Well, it only seemed like he died in his car But then actually No, he died on the floor of a nazi yeah that's right yeah well yeah that's a good point uh yeah i think a lot of if you were like no i actually didn't die there he the paramedics

arrived and he got revived and he's fine now i think people were like really yeah is that we want him to be dead yeah i i don't disagree disagree with that. But what they can do, they can bring back Saul Goodman. Because Better Call Saul is, it's mostly a prequel, but there's parts of that that are a sequel. Where he's working in the Cinnabon or whatever. Yeah, right. In a mall. So I think that would be great to put those two together. So the Cinnabon story is still going.

Still going, yeah. Because I watched the first few episodes and he's reflecting on his old life yeah his new identity yeah they don't go to it much but yeah okay so is there an actual drama unfolding in it or there's a little bit but it's more kind of a guy watching old commercials of himself and yeah right things like that but that's such a good show yeah i mean it's one i think we've talked about it what's what recently maybe we didn't i think we're talking about in the q a that's a show that i should watch but you have well we're like four seasons in or five seasons we're a hundred seasons in wow yeah i think it's four five and then they do 10 a year so yeah yeah there's not that many

so you could definitely catch up anyway good i'm glad they're doing this uh and i'm indifferent to the walking dead i thought i was going to watch the final rick episode but then i didn't and i so i i thought i'm like i'm probably watch these rick movies but i probably won't yeah what if they're just called rick they're called rick one two and three there's no walking they're aiming for a new audience they're like you know but walking dead audience will come over yeah obviously i mean there's some people who'd be like i don't like that walking dead i don't know if i can catch up yeah so it's just called the first one's just called rick one and they're they're banking on people either being named Rick or know someone Rick?

I think so, yeah. Is that about me? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to chapter check this out. See if it's me. Or Pickle Rick. People do like Pickle Rick. The name recognition of Pickle Rick.

What if they just called it Pickle Rick One, Two and Three? Okay, good. Great. Or just maybe implied it. Yeah. Like he's eating, he's got a jar of pickles. Yes. Somewhere near him.

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That's right. It's pretty basic, isn't it? Yeah. There's not really much to it. You're pretty basic, Disney. Yeah, you are. You're basic, Disney. You're basic.

I mean, who cares what it's called i guess but did you see the logo it says disney do you see disney as a backward g that d yeah gizney yeah that's how i say it do you see it like that uh i thought that was just me but apparently it's a very yeah whenever anybody points it out i i see it as that for a couple of days and then i'm like then it turns around again yeah right i don't think i knew for like a good 15 years that that was even a D. Like obviously it said Gizney, but it never occurred to me. But you always thought it was the Walt Gizney Company.

Wow. All right. But, and it's the, it's the arc over the top. Did you never question that? Why would I? The arc over Gizney and then it ends with a plus on the end of Gizney. Yeah. So yeah, there you go.

That's terrific. I don't think the name matters so much as the content. And speaking of televisual sp-off content, Mason, we've got confirmation of the Loki series with Tom Hiddleston. That's true indeed. We've talked about this literally every week. Is it a prequel? Did he fake out his death?

Yes. Did he snap his own neck? Because Thanos was like, well, I probably shouldn't continue crushing his neck if his neck's already crushed. It wasn't his neck. He crawled under a dumpster. It was a different neck.

So that's good. I'm glad they're doing that. I crawled under a dumpster. Wow. It was a different neck. Yeah. So that's good. I'm glad they're doing that. I hope they put a lot of money into it, and it's good. I wonder which of these will also be released at the same time as when it starts. Yeah. Do you think they're going to dump every Marvel movie on there? Oh. Because you know how they do with a lot of Disney classic collections.

They don't release them all at once. They have the vault. The Lady and the Tramp was only released for four yeah see that's because that's traditionally that's a thing they've done for years and years is they will release scarcity that was scarcity they'll release one movie on vhs or dvd for a few months or a year and then they'll delete it and it all they all disappear and then you can't get it again. And then they release something else. That would be surely the whole point of this. But I mean, maybe they're like, well, if that was our strategy on physical media.

Yeah. Let's do it on digital media as well. It might be. I don't think. Well, I guess that also incentivizes people to come back. Yeah. If they keep swapping out the content. I don't like that.

No. I understand why people do. I hate it when on Netflix or any other thing where you go to get a thing and it's gone. It's normally around the time that the next version of that is coming out. So you're like, well, I'm going to catch up on whatever. I had a look for Fantastic Beasts on Netflix. It's gone.

It's gone. It's so annoying. It was there quite recently in Australia at least. And I'm like, oh yeah, the new one's coming up. I'll give that a whirl. Up, gone. I was going to watch at least and I'm like oh yeah new one's coming up I'll give that a whirl up gone I was going to watch that tonight

because I'm seeing it tomorrow nah I can't no I can't oh well better cancel all your plans I will I'll cancel all my plans but I think

you may be right in the sense that and also people will just stay subscribed because they'll be like any day now that thing I like is going to pop back up

yeah but you can just tire on it if you want to I guess that's true I feel like I'm having to do that less and less because there are more options that's true which is great because i'm happy to pay for things if you just make them available exactly like if i'm like okay well what i can do is i can go on an ipad or whatever and a laptop or whatever and try and search for the thing and then somehow send it over to my tv yeah with some app or whatever or i can pay three bucks yeah and rent the movie i'll just rent the

movie it's fine it's absolutely fine yeah but also i feel like you were saying like i i think maybe i'm gonna have to start buying stuff on blu-ray again like okay things that i enjoy because yeah i feel like it's inconsistent. For a while, I'm like, why do people still collect stuff on DVD? Why do people still collect stuff on Blu-ray? It's just clutter. I'm all digital now. But then every time I go to look for something, it's gone.

So I'm just like, well, I should probably just buy it then. Yeah, you should probably just buy it then. Maybe I'll just buy it. Maybe you should, Mason. Maybe I'll buy it. You're going to buy this, though. I mean, there's a Rogue One prequel coming out starring Diego Luna as Cassian Andor. Now, if you remember, Mason, from the movie Rogue One, he's been in this fight since he was six years old,

when presumably a clone trooper punched him in the head, maybe at his birthday. I think so. I think he was about to blow out the candles on his space birthday cake, and a clone trooper hit him in the back of the head with the butt of the gun. His face went right into the cake. And all his friends laughed. All laughed at him yeah and he's like resistance also he would have if if it happened when rebellions are built on cake it's true it's true it is true yeah that's what he said that's what he said but if he was six years old that means he's talking about being in a fight during the clone wars right because there's only a 19 year gap between revenge of the sith and But if he was six years old, that means he's talking about being in a fight during the Clone Wars.

Right. Because there's only a 19-year gap between Revenge of the Sith and roughly Rogue One. So, yeah, he would have had to have experienced the Clone Wars. That's what he's talking about. Okay. So, separatists and clones. Do you think that's one of those things that maybe they threw into the script without figuring out the timeline? Yeah, I think so. True, yeah.

But he's been part of some... It's more compelling to be like, I've been doing this for six months and I haven't had a lick of sleep. I'll tell you that much. I had to quit my temp job to fight this war. What I don't like about this, here's the synopsis, the series will follow the

adventures of Rebels by Cassian Andor during the formative years of the Rebellion and prior to the events of Rogue One. It has to be prior because he was obliterated by a giant laser at the end of the film. I like that character. I like so much of Rogue One, but it just doesn't come together for me. So I'm kind of interested to see this guy prior. But that being said, get out of this time period. Yeah, right.

Why are we still getting the formation of the Rebellion? And I don't understand why they keep coming back to this yeah right don't you well because you're right it's interesting because because we know first of all we know where it's all going to end up and even then it doesn't really end up because even at the end of uh return of the jedi then after that the first order forms yeah so there's still no end to it. Yeah. So what you need to do with Rogue, which I enjoyed, I think, more than you did, but I think with that one, you have to go, well, obviously, none of the characters are still around,

so do you find their story compelling? Do you relate to the characters, or do you feel something for the characters? And if you don't, then that's kind of a waste. So now they're like, well, all right, well, if we make Cassian Andor an even more compelling character in his own series, then maybe people will feel more for his character in Rogue One. Well, I found that for the Jyn Erso character because I read the prequel novel to the prequel Rogue One.

Oh, yes. And it fleshed out that character a lot more than what is in that movie. It's just all the parts are there. Yeah, right. But it just, anyway, it doesn't matter. I've talked about it a thousand times. So is this some sort of long-term strategy where people go, well, people will buy more Rogue One DVDs if they watch the Cassian Andor series,

I guess. Series, maybe, I guess. The other thing is, you know how they talked about the formation of the Rebellion was covered in Star Wars Rebels. That is exclusively what that show is about. And so I guess what would be interesting is this would be more the underworld side of things where he's going into alleys and shooting rebel informants

so he doesn't get caught. So Rebels is more like, we're going to find a new base and we're out of fuel. It's the big, it's the big events. Yeah. So that is interesting. That is interesting. Yeah.

Also, I guess there's threat elements, which are from solo another movie. I didn't particularly like that could be worked into this, which might be interesting. You've got the whole underworld of Darth Maul and Kira is, is running all that. You'd have to bring her over.

Emilia Clarke, obviously, again, I don't know what that would cost because she's coming off the back of Game of Thrones. That's true, yeah. And Terminator Genisys. Yeah, exactly. But I think, yeah, there are things that you could resolve in this show

from those things, which I think there's a very good chance that this could be good. I just wish they'd stop doing this. Now ideally where do you want where would you rather that we be hearing stories from i think what time period just if you jump 10 years any direction okay from that i'll take then you're in solo i am so not even but yeah i mean ancient stuff you can't go past the last jedi obviously because until they finish nine yeah and i'm not even you can't go past the last jedi obviously because until they finish nine yeah and i'm not even sure they'll go past after that because they didn't really

they're kind of reluctant to go past trilogies i'd imagine and answer questions until the next set of movies but but yeah there's that 30 year gap there but i guess they're already doing the mandalorian which is that and one of those series that they're building is probably going to be Old Republic. Or TV series, yeah. Probably. I mean, that's what people keep... Because people are like, okay, well, the Game of Thrones guys, they're going to do Old Republic stuff. That's the assumption.

But, mate, what if it's just in that gap? What if it's in the gap you hate? What if they're like, we're going to fill out every millisecond of this gap before we do anything else even shadows of the empire era which is no longer canon yeah fill that gap they haven't touched that that's after return of the jedi that's after everybody strikes back oh yeah yeah it's in that han solo frozen thing something yeah that they haven't explored even so i i just i i don't. But are they filling in those elements? Currently? Yes.

No, they've barely touched it. That's what I'm saying. Maybe that's taboo now. Maybe they're like, we will not fill in any of those tabs. Yeah, I think they're saving it for something. I think they're going to do a big event like they did with Shadows of the Empire. But we'll see. I don't know that for a fact.

I don't know anything. That's the end of all the spin-offs news of this week. So now we've just got a few more bits of news and then we'll get into what we're talking about. Jeremy Irons is officially playing Ozymandias in the Watchmen sequel TV series. The spin-off. We're still in the spin-off news.

Wow. I think we called that a while back. Somebody find the type code. Say they called it. Oh, my God. They banned it. They've said so many things at random so many times. Yep.

A broken clock will guess if a guy in a comic book series is a different character from a- Twice a day. Twice a day. We do it twice a day. We're just not recording all the time. That's right. What do you think of that casting? It's pretty good. I like it.

He's done a German-ish accent, hasn't he before in uh diehard three diehard three yeah i think that's great casting it's pretty good what do you think the state of the world's going to be in 30 years after the giant squid was plopped wait so is this that's a good that's a really good question so this is because we have obviously we have doomsday clock yep which is the sequel to the comic book series, which is set seven years or it's set in the 90s, isn't it? Yeah, but it's also set in the modern day DC universe. Parallel to the DC universe, yeah.

Maybe time moves slower in the Watchmen universe. Maybe it does. Maybe it does, yeah. So this is going to be set 30 years after. So does this include Doomsday Clock, I wonder? I don't know. I wouldn't say so. Yeah, because otherwise.

Yeah. I think Doomsday Clock, when it eventually ends in 14 years, that it'll be sealed off from the main. Yeah. It'll seal off the DC characters from that universe. Yeah, I think so. So I don't think it'll matter. Yeah.

Also, this might be a sequel to the movie. Yeah, right. I don't think so but it could be yeah i think it is i mean i would i would say it is we'll know whether they use the squid or not because that's that's that's gonna be the the thing that tips it over because everything else is mostly the same i was gonna say yeah that's it's almost yeah but different designs and whatever i think maybe they maybe they will do a cheeky nod to the squid yeah they should yeah i mean you also you also i guess they could also say okay well you take the movie universe and dr manhattan did the explody thing yeah maybe some weird stuff

happened we you know we didn't we don't see individually what happened to everybody maybe maybe a giant squid came out of a portal do you think a giant squid might have come out of a portal? Yeah. Man, imagine that. What a world. Do you think the world would unite if a giant squid came out of a portal? I don't think it would. I don't think they would.

I think these days they would. I think it would be all conspiracies of who dropped the giant squid. Was it Russia? Yeah. No, was it an inside job? Exactly. I don't think it would. You know, anybody.

Giant squid's an inside job. Bush did the giant squid. Yeah, no, I think you're right. I think it would hurt anybody. Giant squid's an inside job. Bush did the giant squid. Yeah, no, I think you're right. I think it would be a serious failure. I don't think that works anymore. I think it would have worked in the 80s because that also came off the back of the Cold War when people united against communism

and knocking down the Berlin Wall and all those kinds of things. But I think people hate each other too much. Yeah, I think so. And I think these days also, it'd be in the news cycle for like a week. Yeah. And then there'd be some tweets that would just be like, hey, weren't we just talking about a giant squid blowing up New York a week ago? Shaking my head.

There'd just be a lot of that. Nobody's done anything about it. This was big, big news 10 years ago. What a media, you know? Yeah, the media. The media. The media. Speaking of the media, Universal is planning on rebooting one of their most popular franchises

of all time. Do you know what this is? The Universal Monsters. I wish. It's back, baby. I really want them to. Ah, third try. Have a run at it.

Third bite of the cherry. You can do it. Well, fourth, I guess, if you count The Wolfman. Yeah, okay. And the original one. And The Mummy. So fifth? Yeah, I guess so.

Is The Wolfman universal, that Wolfman movie? It might not be. I don't know. But also, I don't think you count those ones because they're not very obvious leaps out of franchise. The Mummy was just, hey, let's make a Mummy movie because that would be cool. And boy, let me just check if The Wolfman is... Okay.

I need to know who made the wolfman movie. Oh, Emily Blunt's in the wolfman. Is she the wolfman? No. It is Universal. Oh, Universal. So good at making monster movies. Anyway, no, they're actually rebooting Shrek and Puss in Boots.

But with the original cast, I heard. With the original voice cast. Okay. So maybe... So is that a sequel? What's going on? I don't know. How many of the Shrek movies have you seen? I think I've seen one and two. Yeah, they're the good ones.

That being said, the three is terrible, but four is like an alternate timeline. It's not bad. It's okay. Three is very ungood, but four is okay. Does three have Justin Timberlake in it? Yes. Okay.

I'm not implying that that makes it ungood. That's what makes it Does three have Justin Timberlake in it? Yes. Okay. Yeah. I'm not implying that that makes it ungood. That's what makes it not good. He doesn't do any singing or dancing. All right. He doesn't sing the song Signorita, which I believe is his best song. There you go. I don't care what anybody says, Mason.

That's very brave of you. I don't mind being brave occasionally. Yeah. Yeah. I put myself out there. Do you have an opinion on his best song? It might be Cry Me A River

It's not a good song Alright He's not that brave I was really just grasping To be honest I don't know that many Of his songs So yeah

Original voice cast I think You kind of have to Reboot it because He's got kids now Shrek has kids Shrek has kids And he can't go off

On an adventure Because his wife's yelling at him and he has to be a good dad. There's a lot of that. I feel like that's more your opinion

based on your own life. No, that is what happens in those films. Sounds like Shrek can't adventure or podcast anymore because he's got a wife and kid

dragging him down. Seems bad. She's always slamming the door. Yeah. The door to the swamp. Swamp door And they actually did a Puss in Boots movie

And there's also a TV series And there's a Christmas Yeah there's a bunch of Christmas stuff There might be one or two Maybe there's just one But the Puss in Boots movie is okay I've seen it It's a prequel

But yeah I see why they kind of need to reboot it But it's going to be weird I guess You could just have them get a divorce You could just get them It's okay there's nothing wrong with getting divorced people get divorces all the time make it make it modern mate my god if people can unite under a giant squid that people can get divorced well we we talked about the spy you know spider-man you're aware of spider-man the character i've seen him despite in the comic books there was a the spider-man clone saga yeah which is basically they went hey spider-man isn't selling as well as

it used to be how can we make him cool and hip with the kids and ultimately what they chose to do skateboarding well what they plan what they plan to do is they because he was like yo-yos yes all those things but they um because he was like married and he had a good job and blah blah blah and they were like kids can't relate to that anymore so that what they what they eventually did but they because he was like married and he had a good job and blah blah blah and they were like kids can't relate to that anymore so that what they

what they eventually did is they cloned him yeah and they made a cool young hip version of him called Ben Reilly

and eventually they were like was he Ben Reilly was Ben Reilly actually younger no he was the same age

okay right well I mean chronologically he's younger yeah I get what you mean he's years younger I mean like

but he's biologically supposed to be the same age. So basically, the original idea was, okay, we'll have Peter Parker, the original Spider-Man, lose his powers and go off in the suburbs. And we'll have Ben Reilly take over as the original Spider-Man. So that was the plan.

That didn't work out. But one of the original ideas was, let's just have Spider-Man get a divorce. And he does get a divorce eventually. Doesn't a demon make him get a divorce? Yeah, it makes him get a divorce. And he does get a divorce eventually. Doesn't a demon make him get a divorce? Yeah, it makes him get a divorce. But initially they were like... Hey, sign this!

Initially they were like, we can't do that because then he'd just be a sad divorced guy, wouldn't he? But now he is. Or isn't. Now he's married again. I think they're back together.

Good on him. But anyway, Shrek divorce. That's what I'm saying. Shrek divorce. Yeah. So instead of Shrek the Halls, which I believe is a Christmas anyway, Shrek divorce. That's what I'm saying. Shrek divorce. Yeah. Yeah. So instead of Shrek the Halls, which I believe is a Christmas special. Yeah, Shrek divorce. Yes.

It's a shame. Yeah. Shrek the Fourth is already taken because it could be Shrek the Divorce. Yeah. And look, he can go on his adventures because he only has to see his kids every second weekend. It's fine. Him and Donkey could go off and, you know, kiss a dragon or whatever. Yeah, exactly.

Also, Donkey's got kids. So it needs to be Shrek and Donkey divorce. It's true, yeah. Yeah. All right. Speaking of TV spin-offs, we're still in this somehow. Okay. Altered Carbon and Pacific Rim are getting anime spin-offs. Huh.

Where the protagonists are getting divorced. That's right. How is this all TV spin-offs? No. Crazy. Maybe this is... Is this spinoff announcement week? I don't know. As far as the year goes?

Yes. Thanksgiving spinoff announcements? Perhaps. I am glad Pacific Rim is continuing. I liked the last one and I didn't really like the first one. Yeah. Also, I think it's very suited to anime especially considering it's just very concept is yeah exactly the very concept has been drawn a lot from anime exactly and altered carbon as well

which is yeah that kind of surprised me because they're still kind of making the series yeah yeah no why not alton carbon maybe it's like an anthology thing of like what are these because then i get i mean the the dilemma with altered carbon is you know that there's a the idea is people can swap bodies all the time yeah but you've got a main character yes you've got a main actor so it has to be that character the entire season so maybe this is an anthology or maybe it's a series where it's somebody switching bodies every week yeah i think it's a it Leap reboot. Quantum Leap reboot. Anime.

Divorced. Scott Bakula gets a divorce. Yeah. Okay, we actually have a one-minute news that is not spin-off related. It's prequel related. Okay. Do I say prequel right? Prequel.

I think so. Prequel. It's not that one. Isn't it? No. What have I been saying? World War I. Are we getting his prequel to World War I?

World War Zero. Before War. Whoa. Actually, World War I is the setting of Kingsman 3, and it will introduce a team named Conrad who wants to fight in World War I, so there's going to be no Eggsy. That has been confirmed. This is what his name has said about this.

His idea for the new one. What's his name? You know, Eggsy. Taron Egerton. Yeah, Taron about this. His idea for the new one. What's his name? You know, Eggsy. Taron Egerton. Yeah, Taron Egerton. His idea for the new one is incredibly exciting. He's talking about Matthew Vaughan. I'm sad that I won't be on that journey with him but it's not the last you've seen of Eggsy. Because they've talked about Kingsman TV series

and a Harry prequel maybe, I can't remember. Yep, exactly. Spin-off news. We're building the spin-off news. So, yeah. Less excited for Kingsman 3, but that World War I thing makes me go, okay. Plus Conrad is a great name for a teen.

Boy, is it. In World War I. Definitely. He's got that haircut. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, I know what the haircut is. The haircut is, yeah. So that's all the news for this week. Don't your ears get cold?

You know, that kind of haircut. Good question. So we've got to talk about, this is the only time we can kind of fit this in before the next Creed film comes out. Yeah, right. We're going to be talking about the Rocky films, the first two at least,

which is interesting because it's an ongoing, it's been going since 1976 somehow. Yeah, right. I mean, it ebbs and flows in terms of quality, but there's only really one significant low point for this series, which is Rocky V. Right, yeah. Everything else is pretty solid.

Yep. Yeah. But these first two, they're really just dramas and then there's a fight at the end. That's true, yeah. Which isn't a bad thing. And they're both written and directed by Sylvester Stallone. Written, not directed.

John G. Avildsen directed the first one. He also directed The Karate Kid, which is just Rocky, but it's karate. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, but it is based off a real guy, like a real boxer. Oh, Rocky Marciano? Yeah. Because that is... Or part of it is.

Because that's Rocky Balboa's inspiration. That's his hero. And they also have the same name, it turns out. Yes's inspiration. That's his hero. And they also have the same name, it turns out. Yes, correct. That being Rocky. Though Rocky's name isn't Rocky. His name's something else. I can't remember.

Who, Rocky Balboa? Yeah, he's got a different name. What? Yeah, I can't remember his name. This is news to me. When did we learn this? I don't know. Is it in the movies?

I don't even think they say it. I think it might be on a document in one of the movies. It's on his action figure, maybe. It's on his action figure. Yeah. But it's also, a lot of this is based off stallone's experience with hollywood because when he made rocky uh he was 30 which is the age of rocky but he'd spent you know a decade or so trying to get work and as a writer and as an actor yeah right he did some uh some softcore porn films which people may be hence the

name italian stallion yeah well i think they it was called something else and they changed the name to that oh later on okay right but uh and then released it but he was offered Stallone was offered

$350,000 for the rights but he refused to sell unless he was agreed unless he could star in the film even though he had $106 in his bank account right

no car and he was trying to sell his dog because he couldn't afford to feed it this is where he's at and he still turned it down I've given Stallone grief on this podcast

before but reading this story he is amazing I've completely missed it because you know what I think it comes from I read a really weird interview with him a few years back where the reporter had a really strange experience with him and it was really aggressive and off

but this guy's beginnings and what he's done is incredible go back to explain it to me again so he went i've written this movie called rocky yeah and i want to be in it yeah and they were like we'll give you 350 000 not to be in it yes we'll take but we'll take your script so right but he so he took less money than that he did well what the condition was that he'd continue to work as a writer for free and he has to work as an actor for scale. I can't remember what that is. Oh, scale is like, yeah, the scale is like extras wage or like the lowest.

It's like actor's minimum wage, yeah. Yeah. So he ended up selling his dog for $50 apparently. Oh, what about that dog? He bought it back. It's actually the dog in the movie. Oh, right. The big old dog.

Butkus, the dog. Butkus, the dog. So, yeah, he ended up... I'll talk about how it ended up box office-wise, but it ended up being a really wise decision. And they had a number of people that they wanted to bring in instead of him. Robert Redford was considered. Ryan O'Neill, who I don't know.

Burt Reynolds. James Caan. I can see James Caan in this role, I think. Yeah, but I cannot see, as much as I like Robert Redford, I could not see him as a boxer. Because he's so handsome and whatever, and it's cool. But this guy's just like a mumbling kind of just ape of a man with a good heart.

Yeah. Yeah. So I think the best choice for this film is him. Yeah. Agreed. Yeah. heart yeah yeah so i think it the best choice for this film is him yeah great yeah anyway it's really of the time in a lot of a lot of ways isn't it amazing yes for one there's just dudes singing around a burning bin was that something that happened there's a lot of there's a lot of toughs yeah i was just yeah like is this an form of entertainment back in the 70s just people being like um and then like rocky will show up and be like hey guys and they'll take a swing of their yeah their booze and then he'll be like

hey you sounded good boys and then he'll take off again because i guess most of them didn't have tvs i'm assuming that's probably true yeah the weird thing what i think because those guys show up in the sequel yeah i think one of them is frank stallone one of them is frank okay i knew it definitely yeah frank because he calls him frank okay right okay good yeah uh the the fighting in this is not anywhere near as good it is now there's a lot of missed punches and there's like clearly punches that are missed and they oh yeah right you know there's a lot of there's what you're saying is there's a lot of Hollywood punching that is not as well concealed as it is now. Yeah, as it is now.

Because normally it's camera tricks. It's like, because cameras can't see depth. So it's like you punch at someone. At a certain angle. Yeah, exactly. And sometimes in these Rocky movies, they actually just do hit each other and put that in. I was just thinking that, not as part of the movie,

but as a boxing ref, how often do you get punched? Like accidentally? Yes. That's a good question. Isn't it though? If you're a boxing ref out there, how many times a day do you get punched? You get punched a lot? Yeah.

Good question. Because you get right, they're getting right in there and these guys are just blazing away. Yeah, they're grappling. That's it. Speaking of punching though, he loves punching a dart after a fightzing away. That's it. Speaking of punching, though, he loves punching a dart after a fight in this. Yes.

Yeah. Apparently Stallone really was a smoker and he gave it up for this film because he kept getting out of breath during the boxing. But it's so 1970s. I've said this because a lot of people are like, do you not like sport? Here's the thing. I like sport more when it was less

professional yeah i like sport when i like i like i liked australian rules football when it was like they were just smoking on the all the players were smoking on the sidelines during the game and you just take a piss at halftime on the field people used to do that just exactly and they all and they were all just butchers yeah real life they were just they were just doing it part-time yeah i think that was more fun. Totally. Yeah. It's a bloody corporate world. It's bloody Hollywood, Mason. It's a bloody man.

Yeah. And I also like that athletes didn't have to be fit then. It was just like, for cricketers, it was like, you don't have to run. You just got to hit the ball. And that's the same for baseball, I assume. Yeah, right. You don't have to, you just got to be able to hit it.

You don't need to have to really be able to do anything else. Do you have a pretty good eye? All right, get out there. Yeah, that's the same for baseball, I assume. Yeah, right. You don't have to... You just got to be able to hit it. You don't need to have to really be able to do anything else. Do you have a pretty good eye? All right, get out there. Yeah, that's pretty great. For a lot of this film, about a third of the way in, well, not even, I was like,

I can't understand this dude a lot of the time. I put the subtitles on. I put the subtitles on, yeah. And I think also some of that is sound quality. Yeah, right. Because it is of the era, but yeah, he's just mumbling away through the whole...

And he doesn't stop. There's no breaks in his dialogue. He just kind of goes and goes. And he's also in every scene. Well, he's in 90% of the scenes. It's very much... It's not a movie where it's... There's minimal cutaways to Apollo Creed in the first one

where he's sort of plotting to, you know, who his next opponent's going to be. Is it going to be Rocky? But 90% of the scenes, it's just following Rocky's day and Rocky's life. Yeah, as a low-level mob enforcer guy, I guess. That mob enforcer guy never gets any sort of comeuppance or... He seems a relatively decent guy.

Is he? I don't know. I don't think he is, but also, like, he never... Yeah, you're right, he never gets a comeuppance or... He seems a relatively decent guy. Is he? I don't know. I don't think he is, but also, like, he never... Yeah, you're right, he never gets a comeuppance. And he's always at the fight supporting Rocky. And he's like, yeah, Rocky, go, you're a good man. Yeah. Hey, Rocky, here's some money for training. Hey, Rocky, here's 50 bucks to take the girl out. There's a few people that never get their comeuppance, which they definitely would

now. One of them is that mob enforcer guy's mate who's in the car with him. Yeah, right. He's always like, Rocky, you're a bum. You're no good. And Rocky's like, get out of the car and I'll bloody box your bloody lights out. And there's also the guy who's training at the gym with him in the second one, who's spitting water on Rocky. Yeah, that's true. Yeah.

I thought that guy was going to be used as a warmup match for Rocky. And then Rocky would pulp him. And Rocky was going to trounce him. I realized watching these movies, I don't think I've actually seen them. Right. Like fully. Like I'd seen bits of it. I thought the bit where he chases the chicken

in the second one was in the first one because that's also in Creed as well. Yeah, right. But yeah, I don't think I've ever sat down. I definitely seen three and four. For sure. I think three and four are, because three and four are the flashier two.

Yeah. And I think that's, four are the flashier two yeah and and i think that's they're they're the they're the flashier two and they're the the more cartoony i think yeah and i think i think they're more they're way more likely to have been on tv yeah that's probably i think people have fond memories of the first two but they haven't watched them that often yeah three and four it's like well he's got the robot and he fights dov longer fights Mr. T. Those are really kind of... Yeah. They're action movies. Yeah, they're the spectacle. Yeah.

So, it's strange that he has pictures of himself on his mirror. It is weird. Like, junior versions of himself. Yeah. Or even just 10 years prior, I guess. But that's fascinating. I didn't know that his story of a never-was boxing champion is the story of Sylvester Stallone, the never-was Hollywood celebrity, Hollywood actor, until he became that. I feel like nowadays you could become a Hollywood actor after you're 30. I'm sure it could happen then.

But I feel like if you did it for 10 years in the 70s and you just got nothing. And Stallone's not a traditionally handsome guy. Is he? Not in this one, I would say. Oh, right. Okay. He doesn't have crazy muscles and his face is kind of lopsided. Yeah, right on.

You know what I mean? He's just kind of a schlubby looking dude. I think he's probably more likely, like a guy like that would be more likely to be famous now, I would say, with that kind of look. Yeah, I'd say so, yeah. But it's fascinating to me that he broke through at 30 in this particular way. I don't think there's another story like this. It's also fascinating to me that he is 30 in this movie.

Because he seems older? Yes. Yeah, he really does. So the original budget was $2 million, but because Stallone ended up starring in it, they halved it. They went, well, we're not going to put the money into it. But it was the highest grossing movie of 1976. There you go.

It made $225 million, which is the equivalent of nearly a billion dollars nowadays. So he got very rich very quickly. Oh, did he get a cut of that? He must have. Right. Because, yeah, he was. But I think a lot of. I guess you'd get a writing.

Yeah. You'd get a writing residual, I imagine. Yeah. I guess you'd get a writing residual, I imagine. And I think it's the realness of this movie that I think is really appealing. Like the streets look just real and grubby and the clothes are grubby and the people look like real people. He seems like a real person. Yeah.

And I think Stallone's done a really good job, I guess except for three and four because they're cartoons, of making this Rocky character seem real throughout the different decades. Yeah, right. I think for a lot of his other characters, they're kind of these hyper-masculine kind of machismo. Expendables. Yeah, Expendables, Demolition Man, which I like Demolition Man.

It's fun. But this character, for the most part, has always remained human and flawed and just kind of this mumbling, good-natured buffoon. I'm interested in that because in the first... Because his great love is Adrian, the mousy... Pet shops open late, isn't it? I was just thinking... I thought of that at the time. I'm like, is this some sort of 24-hour pet shop?

She's really just... Yeah. But his great love is Adrian, who's the mousy pet shop. Ford Coppola's sister, apparently, I think. Is that Sofia Coppola or is that? No, that's his daughter. I'll look into that. But she, obviously, she's beautiful once she takes her hat and her glasses off.

Boy, is she, Mason. But it's that he gets her just by chipping away at her that i that i didn't like that at all because i got the sense that she didn't like him yeah right and he was just hassling this this woman and making and then his her brother who's a terrible person paulie yeah makes her go on a date she's cooking thanksgiving dinner and he just throws it outside in the alley goes go on a date get She's cooking Thanksgiving dinner and he just throws it outside in the alley. He goes, go on a date, get out of here. And then he gets really angry when they end up hooking up and he's like, you've been used.

You're no longer a virgin. It's really bizarre. It's really bizarre. And there's a bit where he's like, he takes Adrian on a date and then they go back to his place. And she's like, I'm going to leave. And then he like bars the door. Yeah. He's like i'm gonna leave and then he like bars the door yeah like he's like yeah and he's again he's a man who beats people up for bunny in several careers yeah and he's just like but i think but the kind of the the the implication is that like

he all of this gets her out of her shell kind of in a way and so so after that, she's like, oh, I'm actually feeling good about life because all I needed was a man to block the door. Yeah. I think the lesson here is though, do not do any of these things. If a girl is ignoring you or doesn't want to go on a date, that's it. Best leave it.

Best leave it. But that's the thing. Even if her brother throws a turkey. But I guess where I was going with that is, so is it implied that he is in the wrong in that or is it was that just the attitude yeah i was gonna say or is he written as this flawed character who doesn't know what he's doing or he's just a dumb ox kind of date that he takes her on he just spouts at her about being a boxer yeah right like oh i'm a southpaw people don't

want to fight me i've been fighting since i was 15 and you know oh look my finger's dislocated it is he just it is a picture of me from when when i was fighting or whatever uh-huh yeah it's just like okay yeah all right yeah it's interesting because he's not and he's nervous i assume that's what that is yeah right uh-huh yeah see it's tough it's tough to Maybe it is written that way though Yeah right Part of it is yeah But she Comes out of her shell more And especially in the second one

She's more of a Like a forceful character Yeah Yeah so they build on that I mean she's got better hair In the first one Do you think so? Yeah

You might be right Mason You know Marie That kid that She walks home The 12 year old Tough girl Yeah She's from Rocky Balboa.

She's the woman that's helping him out in that. Is she really? Well, it's not the same actor, but it's the character. Huh. Yeah. So that's, I thought that was, he gives her a real bloody talk into about, don't be a bloody loose girl or whatever, because the guys, well, they won't remember your name and they want to respect you or whatever.

Yeah, right. Do you like his grandma glasses that he wears? Yes. cool at the time no sure i thought i my impression was that he's just poor yeah i think that's the glasses he's always had yeah uh-huh they give you that down at the unemployment line thank you those i think so yeah and i think and i i enjoyed the idea that he was kind of like he he was he he knows he's not the smartest guy in the world, and so he notes everything down. Yes. And he still kind of gets it wrong sometimes.

Yeah. Paulie, though, he's just horrible. Yeah. How many movies does he last through? He's in Rocky Balboa. He's dead at the start of Creed. He visits his grave. But he's not paying for drinks.

Like, he's just leaving. Rocky's like, yeah visits his grave. But he's not paying for drinks. He's just leaving. Rocky's like, yeah, I'll get it. Even though Rocky has no money. And he also just boozes throughout the day. He's just got a bottle of whiskey on him at all times. He's just taking a swig from it. He lost some weight in between movies, though. That's true, he did, yeah.

Which they make mention of. What do you think of the Apollo Creed, what's really Muhammad Ali character in this? I had more sympathy for him in the first movie. Yeah. I think he seems, I think the character has sort of varied over the years. And I don't know if that's an evolution of the character or if it's just different, like they were like, we need him to be more of a villain in the second one. Because in the first one, it seems more like he's just a reasonable guy and he just wants a bit of a show

and he's kind of like, and he seems more fair-minded or whatever. But then as soon as the second one starts, he's like, I'm going to get you. You're a loser, Rock. You're a bum. I'm going to whatever. Well, because at the end of the first movie,

it also says there's no, we're not going to do a rematch. Right. And then the second one is like, straight away, let's do a rematch. I'll do a rematch. Yeah. I like the idea of how he picks out Rocky from the group one he's like, straight away, let's do a rematch. Yeah. I like the idea of how he picks out Rocky from the group.

And he's like, this is... Because he knows how to put on a show. Out of some sort of boxing book. Yeah, boxing book. It's like a hardback boxing book. I don't have a hardback boxing book. Have you ever gone to your dad's shelf and picked out his boxing books? No, I've never done that.

I should do that. Yeah. Okay. Fair enough. What about Mickey? I was just thinking about... I think he's so great. Yeah, exactly. The late great Burgess Meredith, thinking about... I think he's so great. Yeah, exactly.

The late, great Burgess Meredith, who people will probably know best as the Penguin in the 1960s Batman TV series. I said that before, you dumb dago. Remember that bit? It's like, whoa, what? Yeah. There's a lot of words in this scene that's been thrown around

that you would not throw around these days. Yeah. It's funny because I don't see the penguin at all. All right. Like, he's not there at all. Is that just me or? That's just you, yeah. Okay, you just see the penguin.

I just see the penguin. I messaged you this during the week, or maybe we spoke about it, but his workout clothes are so gross. Oh, yeah, for sure. Gross. But again, he's poor. He's poor. But even in the second one, though, no, he hasn't washed them even.

No, that's true. They're just covered in grease. They're his lucky workout clothes. And in the second one, you can see his dick in them. You can see his dick through them. I mean, I guess if you're looking hard enough, it's you. I didn't have to look that hard. It was staring at me, if anything.

He's the Italian stallion. What can I tell you? Yeah. The other thing is... Are we not going to talk about Burgess Meredith? Yeah, we are. Mickey's great? Yeah. The other thing is- Wait, are we not going to talk about Burgess Meredith? Yeah, we are, yeah. Mickey's great. Yeah.

Just a man screaming. But what I like also about him is he's opportunistic in the same way that other people are. His intention is to train Rocky because he wants another shot also. He had no interest in him prior to that. Yeah. And Rocky also recognizes that he's seen this opportunity and wants to take advantage of it. But then they obviously, disrespect kind of grows between them.

They bond over a screaming match on either side of an apartment door. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. I would have liked, so there's a scene, if any people haven't seen Rocky 1, there's a scene where Mickey comes to Rocky's apartment

and he's like, I'll train you, blah, blah, blah. And Rocky's like, no, you won't. You didn't have no interest in me. You didn't care. Where were you for 10 years when I was blah, b my ass blah blah and he just keeps screaming and then mickey leaves and then rocky's just screaming to a door like a closed door as mickey walks away and then eventually rocky comes down and like he's he's clearly done his screaming and he's gotten it out of his system and then they work together yeah but i would have liked a scene where mickey

just walks away and he's rocky's still screaming and mickey gets in a cab and drives home and rocky's still screaming and then mick gets sun comes up yeah sun comes up mick gets on a plane he goes on holiday rocky's still screaming that'd have been good yeah now there's a question i i think nowadays it's definitely not the case but can you get fit enough in five weeks to compete in a heavyweight boxing match? Versus the equivalent of Muhammad Ali. Yes. No. But I guess if he's...

Technically, though, he must have the technical basics down right. Well, as I understand it, as Mickey says to him, he's inherently very skilled, but he wasted it. He filipusised it. Is that a expression? Tennis player. His nickname was always The Scud, but it should have been The Poo. It was The Poo. People also called him The Poo.

Yeah, he was more poo than scud. That's crazy. Yeah, they'll put that on his team's name. As a bloke, more poo than scud. 70% poo, 30% scud. Yeah. Yeah, so that's how I took that. Yeah, right.

And also, I think he's been... The idea is that he has spent the last 10 years training himself to the best of his ability. Yeah. So I think he's inherent. Like, he is fit. Yeah. But he doesn't have the technique drilled into him. He's fit and he's inherent. He is fit, but he doesn't have the technique drilled into him. He's fit and he's skilled.

I think he's also punch drunk and he must be missing some nerves. Or he's got a very high pain tolerance or something. Yeah, I think that's also one of his skills. I think that's mentioned that he keeps getting hit, but he doesn't go down. Yeah. He gets hit so much. Yeah. Like in the face.

It doesn't block. doesn't that's also but yeah that's true but also i think these ones are more realistic in the sense that in three and four i think a lot of people have said like if you get hit if you got hit the number of times and as hard as in three and four you'd be dead yeah anyone would die in a couple of rounds but they just just goes forever just keeps putting his face out there um There's bits where he runs in like a jeans and leather jacket, just running around, which I did not care for. What do you think of the montage? The famous montage, yeah.

So they're running through the streets of Philadelphia. I got this fact. Sylvester Stallone pulled a tendon in his leg and was taken to a nearby hospital in a wheelbarrow that's good stuff that means they would have had to have got a wheel somebody's yard just get a wheelbarrow

I reckon there was probably some some teamster, some union guy on the set who's just like ugh like he's been hauling bricks to build something and they're like, get the bricks out of there. And he's like,

ugh, I'm getting overtime for this. Yeah. So I like the montage. Absolutely. The running's great. It is great, but... Those are not good running shoes. They're not good running shoes.

They're also... They're cool shoes, but it's not good for running. The iconic Rocky theme, Gonna Fly Now, is great unless you listen to the lyrics and you have the closed captions on and it tells you what the lyrics are. Because it's like... Working hard now. Going fast now. Just don't think about...

You can do it now. Yeah, it is. Yeah, it's better orchestral. It really is, yeah. It makes a lot of sense that they've cut it out in all the more recent ones, yeah. You know what I love about the actual boxing match at the end? Apollo Creed is such a showman that he has two separate costumes. He does, yeah.

Initially, he's George Washington and then he's Uncle Sam. Yeah, which I think is amazing. Washington and then his uncle Sam. Which I think is amazing. And Rocky's got this baggy dressing gown. What are they called? Fighter's robe or whatever that he's wearing. Apparently also the shorts are the wrong color on the poster.

Apparently that was a mistake that they made in real life. And they couldn't change it. So they just put a line in. Same with the baggy dressing gown or whatever. Because Stallone's not a big guy. And if you look at a lot of this, he's wearing a line in. Okay. Yeah, same with the baggy dressing gown or whatever. Because Stallone's not a big guy. And if you look at a lot of this, he's wearing a significant heel on his shoes. Oh, right. I didn't see that. If you have a look, yeah.

Anyway, what do you think of the fight itself? The makeup, I think, one and two are the most upsetting. Yeah, for sure. He doesn't get that mashed in the next ones. He still keeps a cool, handsome face. Yeah, for sure. This one is that mashed in the next ones he still keeps a cool handsome face this one is just like

oh god yeah yeah I feel like which is which is the better are we doing movie by movie by the way I guess so

yeah yeah I think it's I think it's pretty solid yeah and you can see some empty seats in parts but they do a decent job to make it look like

yeah right it's a full stadium because nobody you know you couldn't get extras for this. Explain to me if you can because I'm not... Mick cuts his eye. Yeah. What is that? What's going on there?

It's swelling and filled with blood. You cut it. And it's covering your eye. And the pus comes out. All the blood and pus comes out. They didn't cut his eyelids open. They should have, but no, they didn't do that. But he's just...

I keep blinking, Mick. I don't know what I can do. He's punching me while I blink. Well, we'll cut your eyelids open. They should have, but no, they didn't do that. But he's just... I keep blinking, Mick. I don't know what I can do. He's punching me while I blink. Well, we'll cut your eyelids off. We'll do it. So, yeah, he just gets mashed. He just puts his face out there. Yeah.

Put your arms up, man. I mean, it is hard. I don't know if you've done any sort of boxing ever, which I barely have. It's really hard just to keep your arms up for that length of time. But don't... What are you doing, mate? What are you doing But don't... What are you doing, mate? What are you doing, Bucky?

What are you doing, Ross? You keep getting hit in the face, mate. You're biting your face. You're going to have to cut your eyelids off, mate. I told you. Yeah. Anyway, should we go? It's good.

Yeah, it's good. It's obviously dated, but not as... Only some of it. It's entertaining, I think. Yeah, I mean, there's some issues with it, obviously. But that's every movie of the time. It's every movie. Yeah.

Okay, Rocky 2 opens with the first fight. Yep. A little too much if you're watching it back to back. Yes. But a lot of it at the time, people weren't. Yeah. Because they're coming out of the movies and there's no home video market. That's right.

So Apollo wants a rematch. They're both banged up in the hospital. Rocky gets married uh they're still singing around a bin yeah it's all happening those guys still doing there and the first thing he does with these a hundred thousand dollars which turns out being thirty seven thousand dollars or whatever it is yeah uh he buys a trans am but yep he buys watches and coats and a house and he's like i'll just get the good house. Whatever. We'll get the good couple. Why would I look upstairs?

The ground level looks pretty good, so why would I look upstairs? I'll buy this house. I'll be punched so much. Why would I look upstairs? I don't even blink, mate. That's true. He buys a jacket with a tiger on the back.

Oh, boy, does he. The first thing I thought was, I want that jacket. Yeah, right. I saw that jacket. Apollo Creed's not happy because people are saying that he's not the real champ. That's right. He's saying, oh, because, oh, we forgot to mention, Apollo wins in the first. That is the...

But he won because he punched Rocky more than he got punched. Yeah. That's how boxing works. It's a points thing. I'm aware. Unless you get knocked down, which is how the second one ends. But Apollo's not happy because people are like, you're not the real champ. You're not as cool as you look or whatever.

Yeah, for sure. They think the fight was fixed. Yeah. Do you like that there's a bit of bloody stickball in the street? Boy, do I. Yes. Yeah. So he ends up having a kid, but he's running out of money

because he goes to do a commercial, but the commercial director keeps yelling at him because he can't read properly it felt very un yeah look that watching that i'm like well this is a failure of the director and the writers or the producers of this ad yeah because you just have him stand there just have him stand there and do a voiceover why are you getting mad at him yeah really no good he's not known for you know impeccable speech and reading prowess. Yeah, exactly. So he's out of money.

So he takes up a manual labor job and he's thinking about fighting again, but he's half blind in one eye. I don't know whether that comes up in other movies. In five, he's pretty much blind. Okay. I haven't seen it. And then he regains his sight in six. Yes.

I think he goes blind in five. Okay. No, I think it's head trauma isn't it yeah okay right uh huh yeah look I've gone to just letting you know

I've gone to slicedaloneshop.com alright and they do have the Rocky 2 Tiger Jacket but it's sold out currently how much was it $200

that's too much right for a jacket that I have a passing interest in yep uh huh yeah so imagine wearing it on the streets

imagine wearing some tight black jeans and a little hat, and the Rocky II Tiger Jacket. Maybe doing some sprints in them. So Apollo Creed has a devious plan to bring him out of retirement. And the way he wants to do that is to bait him. He's like, we're going to harass this guy on a day-to-day basis.

So their big plan is to put an ad in the newspaper of Rocky as a chicken being punched by Apollo. Which says on it, the chicken stallion. It says... Shouldn't it be the Italian chicken? Chicken, yes. That's the first thing I thought. It doesn't even make any sense.

So it's like saying the chicken horse. Yeah. They should have called him the chicken parmigiana, because at least that's an Italian kind of chicken. That's true. Yeah. So what I think was amazing off the back of that was all Rocky's mates turn on him

and they see the ad and they're like, you are a bit of an Italian chicken. And he's like, it's pretty funny, right? And they're like, no, you're a loser now. He nearly beat the heavyweight champ. Of the world. Of the world. The undefeated heavyweight champion of the world. And you're all boxers.

You know how hard that is. You're all losers as well because you just hang out in this old boxing gym, this rundown boxing gym. You all have one set of workout clothes. It's ridiculous. So he learns to fight right-handed to confuse Apollo and protect his eye,

which apparently was also a thing that they had to do in real life because Stallone got injured or something and they had to switch. I can't remember why. No, they had to do in real life because Stallone got injured or something and they had to switch. I can't remember why. No, they had to wheel him around the ring in a wheelbarrow. So he aims for greasy fast speed. Yep.

Where he chases a chicken. Yep. And he can get one. But his heart's not in it because his wife doesn't want him to box. Yep. Because he gets hit in the head a lot. It's true, yeah. Yeah.

This guy is so stupid in a lot of ways, Rocky. The amount of time he goes broke and money, it's so up and down in these series. But I guess he's just a good-natured kind of punch-drunk guy. But he's going into a bank and he's like, why can't I just do your job? Because you can't count or read. And you're wearing a blue safari suit.

Yeah, what are you talking about? I mean, you at least need to learn these skills before yeah you go in and also you're bad at interviewing rocky yeah because he goes in and he's and the the guy says on just so just wondering do you have a criminal record and the guys and rocky's like yes just say no it's the 70s it's the 70s just say no that It's the 70s. It's the 70s. Just say no. That paper's almost certainly gone. Yeah, right?

It's in a filing cabinet in a police precinct that probably burned down. Don't even worry about it. Killed a bunch of corrupt cops. Yeah. It's fine, yeah. Oh, do you think he has his criminal record from Rambo 1? Yes.

Okay. That's what I think, yes. There's a reference to first blood in rocky too is there well i mean they he says somebody's gonna have to draw first blood and i'm like is that a did rambo first blood when did that come out probably around this time no you might be right i think it might have been after rocky okay let me check rambo first blood is not called rambo first blood is it i think it was renamed yeah it's just called just called First Blood, yeah. It came out in 1982. Okay, so it's before.

I can't remember. Before, there you go. Okay, it's just the common usage of the phrase First Blood. Yes. Never mind. We actually got to do some Rambo episode as well. Is there a new Rambo coming out?

You better believe it. John Rambo 2. Yeah. Still Rambo-ing. He doesn't have the mullet. I've only seen four, so I've got to watch the rest of them.

Yeah, I've seen all of them. Yeah, are they good? Some of them i've heard it's a 1972 novel so maybe it was something he was looking at beforehand to create yeah okay that was his next project next project yeah okay like i want to make this movie and they're like no and he's like can i reference the title in one of my other movies and they're like it's a 70 sure sure who cares uh so uh adrian uh, Rocky's heart isn't in it. Like, it isn't in three because he gets punched so much.

Yep. And so, after the birth of his son, Rocky Jr., Adrian goes into a coma. But because Rocky's, because she's so stressed out and she lost a lot of blood. But they're like, do you want to see your kid rock sorry the the dog's just clubbing all over mason i'm gonna get a photo hang on that's all right yeah uh-huh i'm still listening guys uh yeah she's like i was in a coma i'm listening the doctor's like do you want to see your kid rock and he's like no we're gonna see that we're gonna see we're gonna see the kid together i'm not gonna look at him for a month yeah so that kid's just sitting

in another room with nobody looking at him yeah and it was a 70 so like a nurse would check on them every four hours or whatever nobody cared apparently there was some study and i don't know the specifics of it or whether or not this is true uh is this rocky related no if you show a baby the movie rocky yeah it'll grow up punch drunk but that a kid you need to talk to a kid from a very young age because that's how they learn facial expressions and and audio cues and and they they take on a lot of language before they can speak yep my kid understood a lot before he started to speak because he took a while to but there was also they found some kids were at an orphanage but they were very well behaved and very docile but the reason was because they never developed proper

language and their brain didn't develop because people didn't, adults didn't talk to them. Right. So it's really important to talk and read to a kid and all these things. If you take nothing out of this episode, talk to your kid, talk to your kid. If you've got an orphanage full of kids,

talk to those kids. Yeah. Anyway, uh, she wakes up and she's like, why don't you bloody, um, we need money, Rock. Yeah. I've lost a lot of blood. We need money. she wakes up and she's like, why don't you bloody... We need money, Rock.

Yeah. I've lost a lot of blood. We need money. We need money for blood, Rocky. Yeah. So off he goes. First blood. First blood.

So he goes off and he starts breaking pipes and doing one hand chin-ups and whatever. And there's a bit where he runs up the stairs again and there's a hundred kids around him. He leaps some benches? Yeah, he does. That bit with the stairs and all the kids is weird. Which is like, ah!

There's like a hundred kids around him. Yeah, it is weird. It feels like a weird ego moment. Yeah, it does, doesn't it? Yeah. But again, we get to the fight and why doesn't Rocky block? Why doesn't he block? Doesn't block at all.

He doesn't block so much in the second one that I thought maybe it was a strategy. Yeah. But it isn't a strategy. Yeah. I thought maybe it's like, Oh, we know that we know that Apollo where he does too many jabs,

he wears himself out and then you get back in there. Nope. That's not the strategy. He can jab forever. Apparently. Yep. He certainly can. And he wins because he gets up.

So, and he's the best and he's the champion of the world. And we'll talk about Rocky three and four another day probably when they make creed three okay they probably will uh but people have said why don't you talk about rocky three and four because they're the most relevant to the series i guess then they are okay then the new series at least the new film that's true they are yeah but uh it's fun I think I enjoy 3 and 4 from memory more because they're more ridiculous. Yeah, absolutely. But these are solid films.

I agree. I mean, 2 is probably not as good as 1, I don't think. Technically, it's better in a lot of ways. Yeah, the cinematography is way better. Yeah, yeah. But that's more money, right? Yeah. Isn't that?

Yeah, he gets hit more, which is good. There's more kids. For sure, yeah. There's 100 more kids. Yep. Yeah. What do you think overall? Would you say these are worth watching? Yes. Back to back? is good. It's more kids. For sure, yeah. It's pretty great. It's 100 more kids. Yep. Yeah. What do you think overall?

Would you say these are worth watching? Yes. Back to back? Not necessarily. Yeah. I think you could skip two even and go straight to three. Because three could, you could just say, yeah, he won. And then three starts to be the champion or whatever.

I guess so. Yeah. But why would you? If you've got two hours to spare. If you've got two hours to spare. Yeah, watch two. Watch two. They're both good. Yeah, they're both good.

All right. Next, we're going to be talking about Fantastic Beasts and the Crimes of Gay Wizard Hitler. Terrific. I saw a poster for that the other day. Yeah. And it said, Fantastic Beasts, the Crimes of Grindelwald. And it took me a minute because we've used the weird fake title we invented so many times. I forgot that it wasn't actually called the Crimes of Gay Wizard Hitler.

Surprise me. I'll tell you what. Yeah. yeah so i've heard mixed things i'm interested to see uh yeah i've been doing a lot i've got a harry potter video coming out this week on the best harry potter film what i believe is okay uh so people want to is this a trick no it's not a trick it's my genuine opinion right uh i feel like you've reached the point in your youtube career where a lot of your videos are tricks yeah they're mostly just tricks no this is a genuine like this is the best one and this is why right so yeah you haven't uh without giving it away but i don't think you've seen this one so you probably shouldn't watch oh i've seen i have now currently seen all of them except the last one okay well i'm not oh you've been catching up yeah i've seen yeah the last one we saw was deathly hallow not... Oh, you've been catching up? Yeah. Oh. So I've seen... Yeah, the last one we saw was Deathly Hallows 1.

Right. So I've got one to go. You're in for a wild ride, Mason. Yes. And then you're going to watch Fantastic Beasts before you see Fantastic Beasts. I've seen it a couple of times. I remember it.

You remember it, yeah. All right, you know what it's time for then? Oh, what are we reading? What are we going to read? Oh. I'm doing the thing. I'm doing a thing I think I'll watch Rocky 3 Yeah

It's the apropos of nothing I'm going to watch it Whenever we do something like this And I enjoy the films I'm all I always want to go straight Into the next one Yeah yeah

But I think I'm I'm going to force myself To stop and wait A couple of years until A couple of years Yeah that's what I did for Harry That's what I did for Harry Potter

Right I can restrain myself unlike you, Mason. Yeah, I'm not going to do it. You must really like those films if you're just going forward. That's great. Yeah, I enjoyed them. Well, a lot of the Deathly Hallows... Again, some of it's dated.

Yeah. Atrociously. The first three. Yes. But the Deathly Hallows ties a lot into this new one apparently. So it's good that you're probably going to get more out of it. Well, there's that snake, isn't there? There's that snake, isn't there? There's that snake,

isn't there? Yeah. And there's... That snake be a lady, yeah. Yeah. Mr. Miracle's ending though. I think it's this week.

Oh, the Tom King, Mr. Miracle? Yeah. Okay. I'm behind a little, so... The last one was so good.

All right, I'm going to get to it. There's a dark side. They finally meet with dark side. Okay. And it's just the best. All right. Yeah,

I'm a few behind, so... But what are we up to? Was it always going to be 12? It'sseid. Okay. And it's just the best. All right. Yeah, I'm a few behind. But what are we up to? Was it always going to be 12? It's 10 or 12. I think it's 12 because it was like, I remember thinking it's because it's like Tom King's run on The Vision. Right. 12 and then 12 and done.

The Vision family one? Is that what you're talking about? Yeah, which is also good. And so sad. So sad, Mason. Yeah. I don't really have anything else. So is that the last one?

There's one more coming out and that's it. I'll catch up on that because that is very good stuff. Anything else you're reading? Still haven't watched Batman Ninja. I should get to it. Yeah, you've been talking about that. Banging on about it. You talk a big game, Mason.

I talk a big game about watching stuff that's free on Netflix and then I'm like, well, it'll never go away. So I've got plenty of time to watch it. Exactly, you don't even need to worry about it. Forget about it. That's a short what we're reading this week, isn't it? never go away. So I've got plenty of time to watch it. You don't even need to worry about it. Yeah. Forget about it. So yeah. Well, that's a short what we're reading this week, isn't it? Isn't it though?

Let me think. Anything else? We've done a couple of Caravan of Garbage is coming up. We've got a Harry Potter one on Tuesday, which we played for Harry Potter video game. If you like the last Harry Potter video game, we're doing a different Harry Potter video game. Terrific. Yeah.

So that's coming up. Right. Letters, I guess. Let's do letters. Letters theme. Letters theme Goodness gracious me It's time for letters Isn't it Mason

If you want to reach the show You can Because you're in it. That's true. You can interrupt whenever you wish. But if you want to email the show, weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com or hashtag weeklyplanetpod on Twitter, and then we'll read out some. Yes. It's always good to see people on Twitter asking questions,

and it's always good to be getting in emails. That's true, yeah. Do you want to go first or do you want me to go first? Oh, yeah. So last week we talked first or do you want me to go first? Oh, yeah. So last week we talked about the state of Marvel TV. Oh, yes. And specifically we did talk about the Inhumans. We were wondering what was the state of the Inhumans at the end of the series Inhumans.

A couple of people emailed in. Ethan has emailed in. As the only person I think on Earth who actually legitimately watched every episode of the Inhumans, I thought it'd answer some of the questions you actually legitimately watched every episode of The Inhumans I thought it'd answer some of the questions you were asking Spoilers for Inhumans Here we go First of all, no, it does not get better

I was curious about that That does not surprise me He says there's maybe one episode that I would say was any better than appalling But it gets easy to handle Okay Spoilers, they eventually leave Maximus trapped in a bunker on the moon he deserves it I guess for trying to help people

then they go back to Hawaii oh so the Inhumans are in Hawaii I don't deserve that no exactly they're bad people alright overall I'm not sad

it's cancelled thanks for probably not reading this sucked in we did yeah idiot yep now you look like a right fool

you do it's great stuff we were curious. Yeah, they don't deserve to be in Hawaii. Hawaii's a paradise. Yeah. Shouldn't be allowed. Even if Maximus' intentions are just to take over and just so he can be king, at least

he's freeing the people who are working in the caves. Yeah. Yeah. So that's all I'm saying. Anyway. Anyway. Yeah. Anyway, the only benefit there, obviously, is that 50% of the Inhumans are dead now.

Thank God. They turned to dust. I bet they dodged it. God damn it. This is from MassiveLateFee on Twitter. A PG-13 re-edit, you know, for kids, of Deadpool 2. Does this worry you that once Disney buy a 20th Century Fox, it will neuter the characters? I don't think this is a Disney move at all.

I think this is just a Fox getting as much money as they can. Yeah, for sure. And I think there's enough people that will pay... Is this the remake of... This is a PG of Deadpool 1 or 2? Yeah, 2. Well, you thought it might have been both, yeah? Yeah.

It might have been a retelling of both. They could compress it down. I think so, they could. It's got the Fred Savage bit to it. See, I think a lot enough. So I would pay for that. I'm not going to go see it. Okay, right.

Look, I would pay for it if they have the... Audacity. The audacity. If they have the Fred Savage Princess Bride device and they go back to that enough times. Also, I think if they work creatively around the violence in the... Like if it's the in the like if it's just cutaways if it's just removal of the blood i think that what if they acknowledge at the top

that goes well deadpaw says we use the cgi to get rid of the whatever what if they say it like that no i don't know i think if they find a creative way to to work around the violence i think i'd probably watch that okay you know or like if they re-dub, you know how like when I was a kid, I would always watch the A-Team and then like the A-Team would drive a, you know, they'd be in a car chase and they'd drive some guy's Jeep off a bridge

and the Jeep would crash off the bridge and you'd hear a guy go, hey, you all right? Yeah, I'm all right. Like they would dub that in to indicate that nobody had actually died. If they put that sort of stuff in. It's after people get their limbs cut off. They'd be like, hey, I'm fine. Yeah, I'm all right. Like they would dub that in to indicate that nobody had actually died. If they put that sort of stuff in... It's after people get their limbs cut off.

They'd be like, hey, I'm fine. Yeah, I'm cool. Don't worry about it. Like, I think that would be fun. I still don't know what Disney are going to do with this. Maybe they will end up neutering all these characters. I don't think so. I don't think so.

I don't think so. That would be unwise, but we don't really know what they're going to do with them. As if Deadpool would stick around and let that happen. As if, yeah. He's cool and dangerous. He can't be stopped. Yeah.

Not even by corporations, you know? That's right. Even though he's part of a corporation currently. Mm-hmm, yep. And then he's going to be part of a different corporation. Mm-hmm, correct. Even though he's a soulless rip-off of another character owned by a corporation. Yeah.

Yep. What do you got? You got another one? This is from Jake Marone. All right. I live in Thousand Oaks, California, have been and currently am affected by the fires. Through one of the worst and scariest 48 hours of my life,

listening to the show has helped a lot. I know, right? I know, that's true. Big call. Things must have been really dire if this helped in any way. Yeah. Seriously, if it weren't for you guys, things might be much worse for me.

How? Yeah. I don't think we've made it worse. Yeah. Well, if it weren't for you guys, things might be much worse for me. How? Yeah. I don't think we've made it worse. Yeah. Well, that's, yeah. I mean, we've got a few people that message on Twitter as well who are out that way. Yeah. Justin Lyles also says his town burned down the other day and he showed gave me something

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I'm more sorry. I'm more sorry to hear it. I'm more sorry to hear it. My empathy is beyond yours. More sorry to hear it, InfinityPlusOne. You got me. Yeah, that's right.

Yeah, that's right. I hope everybody is safe out that way. Yeah, the bushfires are... Well, both my brother and my dad are firefighters. Yeah. As someone who's had people tell me stories of them who were there, absolutely horrendous. So, yeah, I'm glad those two are safe.

And I hope the other people out there are also safe. If you're in the area, don't be there. Go to a different area. Go somewhere else. Yeah. Yep. And if you have to leave your chosen podcasting device at home, do that. Please do.

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Hashtag weeklyplanetpod. Good name. That's a good solid name. Starring in a local town performance of Oliver Twist this week. Hello. As we live in an era of reboots, would this story work on a 2019 or 2020 backdrop so you take all of a twist yep modern day uh-huh orphanages don't really orphanages don't really exist the same way they did then obviously okay but street urchins do homeless kids that's true yeah that's

a thing yep do you think it could work i mean you can modernize it that way or you could modernize it in the sense that he's not stealing heocketing, he's stealing people's Bitcoins. He could do that. As an example. How many Bitcoins would he... So he's stealing data drives? Yeah, he's stealing thumb drives off people. He's hacking the Gibson.

He's doing all that stuff. I understand that. Yeah. So you want Oliver Twist, but it's Bitcoin. Yes. You can call it Bitcoin Twist. Exactly. Okay, good.

Yes. Have you seen Oliver Twist, any version of it? Oh, years ago. Yeah. I've seen the Alec Guinness one. Realistically, of course you could still... You could do... But would you...

A straight adaptation I don't think is enough. No. Because it's been done. Oliver Twist... Is any element of it whimsical? It's not really. Like magic? No, but I mean like... Is it all grim and gritty the wholeimsical? It's not really. Like magic? No, but I mean like,

it's all, is it all grim and gritty the whole time? It's mostly grim. But there's no like moments of levity. Nobody does a little dance. Yeah, there are. You know, there's the Artful Dodger and all that kind of stuff.

And bits and pieces. I don't know. It'd be really, because it walks upon, because you know, there's the homeless, the homeless problem is a huge problem. Yeah.

And to be like, well actually they're, they're fast talking heisters, you know? Sassy bloody. Yeah. Yeah, be like, actually, they're fast-talking heisters. Sassy, bloody. Yeah, a bit weird. Okay. So no? Bitcoin.

Bitcoin. All right. And on that note, send us some Bitcoins. If you could. I had a lot of money stolen from me. No, can you wrap up the show, please? As little as one Bitcoin.

What's one Bitcoin worth now? I'll find out right now. It's like 10,000 or something like that. Is that right? Probably even more. Probably a lot. Let me check. I'll check my currency converter because it's got Bitcoin in it for some reason.

I can just Google it. One Bitcoin is 6,000 US dollars or a bit over. It was like 12,000 a few months ago. That's no good to me. I don't want it there. Yeah, exactly. No, thank you. It was like 12,000 a few months ago. So that's... Well, that's no good to me. I don't want it there. Yeah, exactly. Fuck. No, thank you.

Yeah. That being said, I know a number of people said, how can you support the show more? Just keep listening. Like we, as I said in this video, we planned for this. Yes. You know, for YouTube or somebody's screwing us over. And so we're prepared.

So we've got revenge all set. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. But if you do... We've already built the coffins to fire media. screwing us over and so we're prepared so we've got revenge all set yeah exactly yeah but if you do we've already built the coffins Defy Media and we're coming

I put the nails in myself mates we're coming for you Danny Defy and your mates but we're fine yeah it's just going to be

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Swing on by. Sure, that'd be great. Go and see that movie and then we'll talk about it. And then after that, I think for us, it's Robin Hood. Is it? And then it's Creed.

Great, okay. So it's up and down. Is it though, yeah. Yeah. But Tim Minchin's in Robin Hood, so maybe it's... A job that he did for money. It might have been that.

Yeah. All right, that's it. Thanks for listening. Grabbed out Jimmy, guys. We'll see you next week. in Robin Hood so maybe it's a job that he did for money it might have been that yeah alright that's it thanks for listening grabbed out Jimmy guys we'll see you next week good riddance what?

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