The Weekly Planet - 273 Umbrella Academy & Kenobi TV Series

Episode Date: February 25, 2019

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I'm here. But we're not alone this week, Mason. I'm sorry, what? I mean, we're never alone because there's two of us. I'm sorry, what? There's a third person in the studio this week. Start from the beginning. What are you saying?

Oh, God. Returning guest. Yes. Charlie Clawson. Charlie's here. For two years since you've been? I don't know. It feels like.

Yeah, it probably was two years. I was talking about Wolf Creek. What was the weather like? Yeah. What was the weather like? 18 months. Was it winter? I can't remember.

It was wintery. I remember you had a nice jacket on. I remember that I had actually been out the night before quite late. And when I turned up, I was worried about whether or not I had any voice to talk. And then when I heard it, I sound like Bea Arthur on the actual recording. My voice is so strained. You're in town for a thing that didn't happen. Yeah.

But you're obviously from Tofop, which a lot of people listen to this. Yeah. I listen to. It's a fantastic podcast you do with Will Anderson. Yes. It's a couple of mates which a lot of people listen to this yeah listen to it's a fantastic podcast you do with Will Anderson yes where you just talk it's a couple of mates

a couple of comedy mates spinning some comedy yarn what is it comedy conversation between two old mates yes just keep chipping at it I'm sure there's a market

for a couple of mates having a chat two middle aged white guys just airing their views on the world absolutely that's what the world needs more of

definitely but before we forget and get into the show you've got a new web series as well. Yes. To put together. So Tofop actually has

a channel on YouTube that no one knows about Tofop TV. And so I made a web series called Lessons for Life with Alan Mercedes, which I guess is a bit of a spoof on the current

wave of male life coaches, the Jordan Petersons of the world. Yeah, right. I love them. I love them all. Starring Richard Pyrus, who people might know from Hacksaw Ridge,

which I watched last night, didn't even realise. I didn't know he was in that. He was in it. He plays Teach in Hacksaw Ridge. I was like, oh, there's Alan Mercedes in Hacksaw Ridge without a beard. Is he saved by, what's his name, Spider-Man? I can't remember.

He makes it to the end. You'd remember if Spider-Man swung him and saved him, all right? That's an odd film, isn't it? I don't know why it took me so long to see it, but tonally it's all to the end. You'd remember if Spider-Man swung in and saved him, all right? That's an odd film, isn't it? It is, yeah. I don't know why it took me so long to see it, but tonally it's all over the shop. It's kind of like this anti-war film that really loves battle scenes.

Yeah, absolutely. Have you seen it? Only selected clips, yes. It's people making fun of Spider-Man. They're like, you're not good at war. And then he's the best at war. Yeah. I'm on board now.

It's like Forrest Gump meets Gallipoli. That's exactly what it is. It's what it says on the box cover yeah so i watched uh lessons for life i would say look i'll be honest i don't think he's a very good life but then in in so far as i found a lot of humor in that i don't know if you meant to do that but he's fun it's pretty funny and then he's not very good at that well actually a lot of the stuff that's in it

is based on my own experiences with life coaches I have done life coaching in the past the very first episode is all about visualisation in which he gets a guy to select certain items

from a table which will tell you something about your life and that's actually something that happened to me I went and saw a life coach and she took me into a room that was a table covered in trinkets and little action figures and toys and i had to

pick out certain things and then place them on a on like a sheet of butcher's paper and then we had to draw like where these things ranked in my life and i hadn't really thought about what i was picking i just got the first four things i saw which is like a lego man and a button and this kind of stuff and from that impulsive decision she was like giving me all this like information about my life and why I'd chosen these things. It was, it was bizarre. And did you take on any of that advice or did you leave and go, what was that? I did a, I did a second session with her where we went into her living room and I had to hop from side to side of the living room to like jump from where I wanted to, where I was to where I wanted to be.

Okay, I get you. It was, I think her thing was she was all about helping people find their creativity. And I think, well, I sort of work in a creative field anyway. Yeah, you've got that part. I need life skills. I need to work out how to stop being such a man child. Have you got any of those advice? How do I internet bank?

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So it's roughly based on that. Rough, exactly. Yeah. So it's based, it's roughly based on that. Roughly based on that, but it was just a chance. Richie is one of the funniest actors I know. And he improved quite a bit of it.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, we just workshopped it. He was, he was, he was in town for a couple of days. So we literally,

we came up with the idea. We knew we wanted to do something together. We came up with the character and then we sat down and said, we wrote, came up with the idea for six episodes. I went and wrote them in two days and then we shot them in two days so the whole thing was made in the space of less than a week yeah but then about six months of post-production i basically taught myself the entire process of like editing and sound mixing and stuff through this plus plus alan mercedes is a centaur so you've got to to CGI the back end. Yeah, exactly.

So, you know, it's expensive. Yeah, the CGI budget was through the roof. Yeah, well, it's got to be. But yeah, that end result. Yeah, perfect. And we're already rebooting it. I'd like to announce the Lessons for Life reboot, all-female cast.

Yeah, good, excellent. That'll go down really well. Oh, people are going to love it. No one thing about the internet is all-female reboot. It's going to downvote this right away. First bit of news, though. Oh, that's linked below.

I'll link it below if people want to check it out. Thank you. No worries at all. I need to plug Tofop as well. Did we plug that properly? Yeah, the podcast. Yeah. Did you have a planet broadcast? I mentioned that, didn't I?

Yeah. Yeah, cool. Okay, cool. And on the YouTube channel. You've plugged in enough just by being you, you know? You've plugged in enough, Charles. You've plugged in enough. We are five minutes in this podcast, and you warned me that it's hot in here.

I am sweating so much. Would you want to open that door behind you? We'll make noises? Yeah, we'll be fine. If my kid comes home, we'll have to close it again because he'll come screaming at us. He might bite you.

It's very still. There's no breeze. No, there's no breeze at all. That's right. We're in what is known as a tropical dead zone here. There's no air movement at all. It's amazing we can breathe. There's a limited amount of oxygen in here.

This is like Saw 7 or something. Exactly or something exactly podcast to one of you dies all right so we got some first reactions for captain marvel you know they the very the very very early screenings where select handful of critics get to go in and tell everyone how wonderful the thing is how do they select these critics because we've never been selected it's mostly an la thing i i think I think they're not going to why would they yeah for us to come out and go Charlie you've lived

in LA from time to time have they ever selected you as a critic no not at all it's not something that they hand out willy nilly do you take these

things seriously though like because I know a lot of early screenings I remember when Fantastic Four the latest one came out when Batman vs Superman didn't they get

like a standing ovation exactly yeah and Fantastic Four people were like it's better than you'd be surprised no it was because that's the thing

I think I would also I'm very easily swayed by a free hat yeah or a or a kind word a free hat or a kind word

I used to review like years ago I used to review movies and I would get invited to those screenings that you guys sometimes go to the media ones yeah and they used to crack me up I would get invited to those screenings that you guys sometimes go to, the media ones. Yeah.

And they used to crack me up because I'd see like reviewers from major publications there. You'd see a Lee Patch. Yeah. Yeah. Or Jim Shembury. And Jim in particular would turn up wearing all the merch he'd been sent. He had his like Independence Day jacket with his Boogie Nights hat tucked into his Aaron Brockovich t-shirt.

Wow. Was he doing it ironically? No. I think he genuinely was like, awesome. I never have to buy a wardrobe with Erin. Those were all the clothes that he had. It sounds like, yeah. Amazing. Some of the highlights for this, though, apparently there's some twists and turns along the way.

Brie Larson's apparently very good. And the cat. People are like, the cat's great. Because something's up with that cat, apparently. It's Grace. It's Grace. And Mendo. I've been reading that Mendo is one of the better Marvel villains.

Good, yeah. There'll probably be some twists on, is he a good guy or who's a bad guy and whatever, and who's a Kree and who's a good Kree and what's what, you know? So all of those things. It's next week or week after? Is it next week? It's the seventh for us, so two weeks.

It's just snuck right up on us. Yeah. I don't know anything about captain marvel yeah i don't know who i don't understand it was a guy once and it's a girl and it's like she's super powerful and stuff but i'm just like i tried to watch a couple of your videos like i don't know it's too hard i feel like i have to check out at some point yeah absolutely and it's a very kind of complicated history of and they seem to be wiping a lot of that away so i think i don't think you're going to go in and go what's happening i don't understand this i didn't read everything ever yeah so i think it's going to be yeah pretty accessible yeah do you feel that charlie is that because you are you feeling tired are you superhero fatigue yeah yeah yeah i've got a bit of superhero lethargy not quite at fatigue yeah right do you have a breaking point where you're

like i'm not saying um i think i mean with the marvel films i think you can pick and choose like i really liked uh infinity war is that what it was that was a call i really think it was infinity gauntlet infinity war i really liked that but you know i mean some of the ant-mans and stuff i didn't love that you're like yeah whatever i can i can let that pass i mean mean, the DC films, I've got to say, I really enjoyed Aquaman. There we go. It was one of those things where it was so ridiculous. Yeah.

Like, I mean, my wife and I laughed the whole way through it. It felt like it was like Flash Gordon or something. And I'm like, well, maybe that's DC's way back in. Let's just go super ridiculous. Yeah, right. Like, just go back to the cheesy kind of like 60s comics and just go more and more bizarre. Well, apparently, and we talked about this a couple of weeks ago they're pivoting to just movies about just movies weird

marine life yeah just any movie oh you're talking about that spin-off they're gonna spin it off into the the trench you know in the movie they go into the trench they go into the and it's just weird piranha man that they're gonna do a sequel is that true apparently yeah well it's all it's on the dc slate so yeah right but isn't there like a Justice League Dark on the slate? There's all kinds of Shazam, Black Adam movie and stuff. The Rock's involved. I don't buy for a second. I think, though, if anything would get off the ground,

it would be that because Aquaman is now the most successful DC film. I mean, who would have fucked it? I know. James Cameron wouldn't have fucked it. Vinny Chase? Did we talk about that? James Cameron is not He didn't like it

What was the figure that Aquaman made in Entourage World? Wasn't there an episode where they opened In a variety and it's like One billion blah blah blah Did it actually beat the fictional tally? It beat the opening weekend of Spider-Man But I don't think I don't know if we got the overall numbers

Because I don't think there were many billion know if we've got the overall numbers. Because I don't think there were many billion dollar movies back then. Oh no, but the question is... No, in Entourage. Oh yeah, no, yeah. One of the episodes. I remember they opened like a... Oh, so after the Aquaman episode.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. There was a... Later on where it's like, this film grossed like a billion... I'll have a look if you want. It's exciting. It means a lot of results. Yeah, that'd be...

Because in Entourage, the figure, like it goes past their wildest dreams. It's the biggest blockbuster ever. I'd be interested to know if

the real life box office beat the fake box office. Yeah. And James, if you could also open up an inflation

calculator and adjust it for whatever year that episode of Entourage came out and just make sure. I'm at entourage.fandom.com slash wiki slash Aquaman. And they've only got the opening weekend, which is 116 million in the US.

But there's no follow-up numbers. But you're probably right. It's probably mentioned. And someone down at entourage.fandom.com slash wiki slash Aquaman has an update. Who is maintaining that site? I mean, what are you doing when you're maintaining an entourage wiki site? Absolutely. That's a very good question.

It's probably one of the cast. I bet you it's Johnny Drama. It's definitely Johnny Drama, who's probably changed his name in real life to Johnny Drama. Would anybody here, of the three of us, like Space Jam when that came out? No, it was terrible when it came out. No, it was terrible when it came out. I can't believe the affection

people have for it. I think it's because of... Maybe I was too old. I was in high school. Yeah. Was I in high school? Maybe I was older than high school. I took Michael Chamberlain,

comedian Michael Chamberlain. I know Chamberlain. I took him to see it and he was so angry at me afterwards that we'd gone to see Space Jam. I don't think he's ever let go of that anger. No.

So that's why. Yeah. Yeah. Because that was, do you remember though, everybody had worn like those cartoon board shorts. Yeah.

If you watched the footy show back in the day, everyone would wear like a Looney Tunes tie on the panel. Those were the days. That's what kept them afloat for many years

is novelty boxers. Silky boxer shorts with Sylvester the Cat on them. With Tweety Bird. Yeah. Silky boxers. There was definitely that Warnerlvester the Cat on them with Tweety Bird yeah silky boxers there was definitely that Warner Brothers cartoon

renaissance in the 90s and it's yeah and then they did and then they had the Warner Brothers stores too yes they did was that when it crowned?

yeah it was yeah it's not it's not a great movie but it's fondly remembered anyway it's getting a sequel 2021

Bill Murray back? good question probably or maybe who has his number because you know that story yeah the voicemail yeah you leave the message yeah i guess it's time it's time like a kraken that's released the murray again that's what it says on the poster i guess it's time question mark we're doing this yeah and it's not michael jordan it's lebron yeah

lebron yeah it's also it cut's also the week before Indiana Jones 5 comes out and the week after Mission Impossible. What? Is that happening? Oh, yeah. And the week after Mission Impossible 7. Is Sheila Booth back? No. I mean, I can't confirm that, but no.

Is Mutt back? The character Mutt back? That's his character. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, okay. Are they going to recast Mutt? I hope not. Because, I mean, you know, you've got to stick to that continuity. Because do we still know, is it...

60s? Was it 60s last time or was it 50s? It was the 50s last time. So it would have to be at least the 60s. Uh-huh. Yeah. So what's he doing? He's fighting hippies.

He's just chasing hippies off his lawn, long-haired hippies. He's working for Nixon. Yeah. He's chasing hippies off his lawn. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I guess because I know they did the 50s and they did Aliens because there was that era of movies and there was a lot of that UFO shit going on. lawn. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I guess because I know they did the 50s and they did Aliens because there was that era of movies

and there was a lot of that UFO shit going on. So the 60s is hippies, isn't it? Reef of Madness, I guess. I don't know. It's for Psychedelia. A hippie steals some sort of priceless artifact, takes it to Woodstock, and it's just him laying,

it's just him cutting a swamp. It's him fighting Hell's Angels at Woodstock because he's taken some bad acid on a really bad trip i want to get a sequel that's woodstock 99 where he goes back and he fights live biscuit but yeah okay are you excited for niana jones then seeing as we're on it no yeah not really no i mean maybe yeah i would be i'm not one of those people who's like oh you can't reboot anything i'd be interested to see if they did like you know cast a younger actor like star trek it and sort of yeah do like you know young indiana jones and not young indiana indiana jones but a different indiana jones chris pratt or whatever they talked about

i'd be interested in that but i don't want to see Harrison Ford, you know. Hobbling about. Yeah. It's just, I mean, put him in a mentor role. Yeah. Batman beyond it. Well, I had a, I went on movie fights and I pitched bring back short round as an adult and make him great. Yeah. And get like Steven Yeun from like the walking dead or someone like that.

Yeah. I think he could carry a movie. Yeah. And also I won that round of movie fights just to clarify if anybody was curious. well thank god that's the reason i came this weekend yeah but yeah do you want to see it yes okay but in what form i don't know i mean it's not going to be great i think it'd be okay at best though right well now i don't want to see it i remember when crystal skull came out i was in la at the time and i when all the billboards came up, I got really, really excited. And then when the film got released, I was like,

I'll wait till it comes out on DVD. I won't rush out and see it. Absolutely. Just play the theme song. Just that John Williams theme is enough for you to go, yeah. That's all you need. It's got Batman rumors of the Batman. Apparently they're looking for someone in their late 20s.

So we're all out. Sorry, everyone. Armie Hammer, that's what i read yeah army hammer and rob patterson are the names that have been who uh the vampire man right who's a good actor outside of those i think he'd be all right yeah how old is army hammy'd have to be like 34 wouldn't he i don't know well he's out yeah he's enormous yeah again another la story oh yes he used to work out he used to work out at my gym. And the dude, he's not just tall, but like he looks like he could be like a professional athlete.

He's noticeably enormous. 196 centimeters. So what's that? What's that in the old money? That's like 6'5". Yeah. Yeah. He looks, yeah.

He's a very impressive physical specimen. Did you speak to him? But maybe too big to be. Too big for that man. I mean, if you're that big. Too big to fail. What are we talking about? What am doing i don't know but i mean if you're trying to like maintain a secret identity how many six foot five guys exactly yeah are there it's like clearly bruce wayne and batman yeah two of

the most enormous people in gotham city and then i guess do you keep well henry cavill they've worked together and they're about he's henry cavill's a bit shorter though isn't he i don't know yeah because they're in that movie where they're spies or whatever together do you ever do that thing where you can you can look up celebrity heights online and they'll do like a a chart

and they'll show you like what different celebrities look like I've seen one of those Danny DeVito up to Armie Hammer it's amazing how many Danny DeVitos are there to an Armie Hammer

three three three DeVitos three DeVitos to a hammer you're three DeVitos tall great i don't think we're going to get any casting news on this anytime soon because affleck just left so i think they're going to let that kind of settle and get i saw him on like jimmy kimmel or something or maybe it was seth myers or something and he was like wishing the new batman well it's like you are

not really wishing them well you're just so glad to be out of it yeah absolutely he is well he we he just looks tired yeah he released a statement recently where he was like okay we took a shot at the script and we you know we we really worked hard on it and then we met some great people and he was very much like handing it off like you're very much like and and and we brought in some great script writers and they're gonna they're gonna work on this next version of this script and felt very much like he was like sounds like an office manager quitting his job talking to his staff yep not wanting to burn any bridges yeah but you know he really hated the job he's been offered a much better gig somewhere else exactly but for affleck it's just punching darts at home that's that's what he wants to do

yeah mason you love Ghostbusters. You'll never stop loving it. You love every movie and every incarnation, correct? None of that's correct, but continue. Here we go. The director of the new Ghostbusters, Jason Reitman? Jason Reitman. The son of Ivan Reitman, who did the first two.

He got in trouble this week because he mentioned about this new one. We're in every way trying to go back to the original technique and hand the movie back to the fans. So a lot of people took that as, you hate the last one that came out and all those kinds of things, which I don't think was his intention. He apologized for it. I couldn't believe it.

It was like, that's clearly a statement that could be interpreted in a number of different ways. Because he didn't, he also, he clearly didn't say, and I hated that one. I think he just meant we're just doing a sequel to the other ones. Yeah. Yeah. But it's not bad to say we're just doing a sequel to the other ones. Yeah. Yeah. But it's not bad to say we're going to be servicing the fans.

Like, I think that's what you would want to say. I mean, unless you got too specific. If you were like, we're going to individually service every fan as they enter this theater. Yeah. But as you said, I have nothing but admiration for Paul and Leslie and Kate and et cetera, et cetera. And the bravery of Ghostbusters and they expanded the universe and whatever. Also, those stories are crossed over in the comics, aren't they? They've crossed dimensions.

I think possibly, yeah. There's, there's, I'm not going anywhere with this. Why, why? It's going to save me. You looked at me and I was like, I had nothing. No, no, that's right. Don't look at Charlie, you finished your sentence.

But why, I always get so confused why people are so hung up on continuity. Especially people who come from like comic book fans or, you know, like genre fans. Because continuity changes all the time. A new writer comes in, a new artist comes in. They change things up. Why do people like, no, it must link up. Who cares? Like everyone have lots of different cracks.

That's just like, you know, if they're good filmmakers who cares yeah i don't know i think is it is it this there's a certain amount of internet discourse where people go oh my god what if in the next one this happens and then this happens and what about remember in the original they did this what about a call back to this and then they sort of everybody builds a image in their mind of what the new one's gonna be this is it's's very much Star Wars syndrome. Yeah. And then the director takes it in the wrong direction and they go, but what about that?

We're going to put this from the first one into the new one. And it's kind of like, no, they weren't. There was never any promises made. There was never, you know. Short round was never going to come back. Well, he should. And I won that movie fight. So what else do you want?

Yeah. going to come back well he should and I won that movie fight so what else do you want yeah you're going to be referenced when Indiana Jones 5, 6

whatever it is comes out people are going to be like but James said in his movie fight I'm downvoting this movie exactly also apparently

he's looking for a pair of brother and sister combo in the 12 to 17 year old range so that's the idea that rolls in a oh man we keep missing out this country can't play Batman brother and sister combo in the 12 to 17 year old range. So that's the idea. That rules it out. Oh man, we keep missing out. This guy can't play Batman, can't play any Ghostbusters. It's ridiculous.

Guys, hear me out. We put our shoes on our knees. We tiptoes it. We tiptoes it, exactly. Remember with the movie Tiptoes? No. Where Gary Oldman plays a dwarf. Dwarf.

He's a brother of mine. Do you normally pronounce the W? What did I say? He does it. Dwarf. I've never called... You said dwarf. Like Dwayne Johnson.

Like Red Dwarf. I've never called him on it publicly, but I think now is the time to do it. Dwarf the Rock. Wait a minute. You say dwarf funny, James. Dwarf. I say dwarf.

Dwarf or dwarf? No, you didn't say that the first time. Let's go to the tape. Okay, look. Fine, I said it. But the point is, there's a movie... He's going to cut it out of the edit. I'm not going to cut it out. He's go to the tape. Okay, look. Fine, I said it. But the point is, there's a movie. He's going to cut it out of the edit. I'm not going to cut it out.

He's going to cut the pause out of the edit. I'm going to double down where Gary Oldman plays the dwarf. Thank you. Where he puts his shoes on his knees and he's the brother of Matthew McConaughey. It's from the early 2000s. It's insane. You should watch the trailer. Okay.

Should I let the dog in? Please let the dog in. Normally Mason lets the dog in But yeah she'll definitely attack you No She's very friendly She's got a friendly smile And a friendly attitude

Do you want me to kind of pat you? Alright don't bite me Alright I'm in your chair I'm in the dog's chair Is that what she's doing? That's the dog's microphone as well Shall we say Yeah

Never says anything But maybe one day I've got my opinions on Ghostbusters She's like the singing frog. We're hoping one day she'll say something on mic, but she never will. Anyway, tiptoes. Yeah, tiptoes.

Anyway, watch the trailer. It's an insane movie made by an insane person. So what I'm saying is, shoes on the feet, shoes on the knees, we get ourselves a couple of big Wobby Pops, and they'll never know. Pat with a propeller. We're just widdle boys.

We're just widdle boys. We, we're just widdle boys. We're just wobby ghostbusters. Getting arrested on the set of Ghostbusters. Yeah. I don't think this idea is going to necessarily, I don't think anyone's going to be pleased from another Ghostbusters. I think people,

you're going to get people who like the 2016 one upset. You've got to get people who don't like it as a sequel going to be upset. I just think it's lose's a lose-lose and we have to endure more Ghostbusters the first one's not that good I know you love it

I'm a big fan of the Ghostbusters I like the mythology of Ghostbusters I'm a big fan of the original one I don't mind the second one I like the second one actually I've said that before

but I do like that universe I do I mean I'm not I tried to watch the the reboot but I just was i just wasn't into it like i just i didn't like the special effects i just yeah that's everything felt a bit neon yes yeah i look i i liked it for the most part but yeah you're right i i what i

like one of the things i like about the original one is it's set in this just dirty awful new york yeah this grimy thing and the new one is so clean and green screen. Yeah. It feels like they're on a set, which obviously, you know, it's obviously they are. It's a movie,

but you know, it feels like a New York film. Yeah, it does. Very much of the city. Whereas the first one, I feel like just pest exterminates in New York, which I like a lot,

but you know, that must be some kind of cockroach. What a film. What an era. Yeah. This news is just for you, Charlie. I don't know if I would have put this in normally, but Hulk Hogan is getting a biopic or biopic dwarf

with Chris Hemsworth. Yeah, that's interesting. Todd Phillips as well. Netflix, right? Oh, I didn't see that part. I didn't know that. I believe it's a Netflix series. Yeah, that is interesting.

It's a series. What? No, no. Is it a series? I don't know. No. You said series. Did I say that? I didn't say series. Did you say series interesting. It's a series. What? No, no. Is it a series? I don't know. No. You said series. Did I say that?

I didn't say series. Did you say series, mate? Can we go to the tape? Go to the tape. Dog, did you say something? Was that your first word? Do not misspeak on this podcast. You'll be held to account.

James, you said it was a Netflix series. So we're going to go with that. You love wrestling, yeah? Yeah, I've gotten back into wrestling of late which is uh it was unexpected but um a friend of mine gave me his wwe account where you can you know network i started watching it and i just got sucked back into it i just it is so i mean i love watching people do death defying stuff because you know that i would never do myself but i just do love the storylines like i love the the high drama the soap opera of it i actually went and saw some wrestling in sydney

a couple weeks ago for i took my wife for valentine's day we went for some professional wrestling and it was great because these guys actually second piece of news just for you your wife's leaving here they married together like comedy and wrestling so at one point there was uh that one of the wrestlers his gimmick was he was the Cupid. And so he was going around with a little bow and arrow. And he shot the two guys he was wrestling against. And they got in the middle of the ring and they started making out. In the middle of the ring?

It was great. So I hope that happens in the Hulk Hogan Netflix special. Well, Hulk Hogan has a bit of... What do you cover for him though? Because there's been some recent stuff that's like... You don't go that far. and i believe he's a an ep on it so i doubt they'll get into that but people have mixed feelings about hulk hogan in professional wrestling why is that because although he was this kind of like huge figure in the 80s he was a face of it like people feel that maybe he kept other wrestlers down that it was very much he whitewashes his own history.

He was famous for not giving up-and-coming guys a shot. When he would move from different organizations, from WWE to the WCW, for instance, he would never lose matches, for instance. Yeah, right. It's a give and take. It's like being the star of a show or the star of a movie and just sort of

pulling rank all the time okay so I did read a bunch of things online from wrestling fans saying this will not be like you know an honest biopic yeah

this will be very much a kind of puff piece I think James and I both watched the same video this week I don't know if you've seen this Charlie not his sex tape

yeah exactly we both watched his sex tape for the show Charlie there is a really odd moment because I have seen the sex tape where he's sitting. We both watched his sex tape. For the show, Charlie. There is a really odd moment, because I have seen the sex tape, where he's sitting on the edge of the bed. Well, forget what I was going to say. Here we go.

And he's talking about feeling... After he's had sex, presumably, because he's sitting on the bed, he's holding his stomach and he's complaining. With Bubba the Love Sponge's wife? Yes. Okay, all right. And he's complaining about,

oh, I feel so bloated. I ate way too much sushi. It's like, Hulk, that is some terrible pillow talk. Yeah, no, that's good stuff. What, to just complain about how bloated you feel? Great. But, I mean, maybe that's what people are after these days. I mean, there's so many sex tapes now.

People are like, I'm sick of the sex. I want some real. Exactly. Someone complaining about gas. Yeah. Amazing. So, yeah, what you were saying though. I was going to say, we both watched a video about why music biopics are always so formulaic.

Because it's always like... That's the Jui, the walk hard. That's exactly what he talks about. It's the situation. Walk hard so perfectly skewed it. Because it's like you see a character and they're at the twilight of their career before a big gig and then they think back to their childhood and then something tragic happened

and then they develop some talent and they meet a producer, then they meet their first love and then the producer sees they've got something and then they record something and then they cheat on their first wife and then there's drugs and whatever and it's always exactly the same and it's also usually the surviving members or the the estate or executive producers so you never

get anything yeah i haven't seen bohemian rhapsody but that's why bohemian rhapsody is like just two hours of the band queen telling you that they're the band queen. Yeah, right, exactly. It's like every scene. It's like, no way, man, because we're queen, and our lyrics will stay the way we want them. You can't release a song that goes for six minutes. Well, listen, we're the band queen, and we believe songs can go for six minutes. Queen? You are absolutely right.

This is the number one on the charts now. A six-minute song, who knew? We knew it, because we're the band queen. I've seen this one hilarious shot where they sit down to meet the producer and isn't there something in the contract where they each have to get equal screen time so it just cuts to the different members just nodding just pointlessly but they're like that is true yeah yeah good work brian mate you've done it again we're queen yeah yeah but like you know and um i mean they got the hair right. Like, Straight Outta Compton, Ice Cube produced that.

And so, you know, all the seedy stuff. Well, the In Excess telemovie was one of the most shiny, happy telemovies about rock and roll I've ever seen. Like, I'm pretty sure, like, Michael Hutchins lived quite, like, a decadent lifestyle. But when you watched it, it was like it was like a kid's film. And at the end he goes off to live in a farm. Everyone was smiling.

They're all smiling. They're in their van touring, you know, building up their, before they became in excess. But they're all just so happy all the time. Everyone's smiling. I'm like, you're in a van, like five blokes.

Surely it got up to some mischief. It can't have all been so nice. But again, Luke Arnold, I believe, is the is the actor's you're forgetting the scene where they all they steal an apple pie off a windowsill they run away but it was even a scene they had the drug scene in the hotel room where they're doing coke yeah but it was like they're throwing it in the air and laughing it's really expensive what a waste but yeah, so Hulk Hogan probably not going to be in any Coke parties in the body. No, I mean, it'd be interesting because he was right in the 80s.

They had the big steroid. That was the big investigation that happened. And clearly a man with a body like that, I don't think that happens naturally. No. So wait, is there a rule in professional wrestling you're not allowed to use steroids? Or was it a health thing? That's a good question actually I believe

oh yeah that makes sense because it's not a competitive sport so you probably can use steroids but there's obviously dangers associated with some of that

but I mean if your doctor prescribes you steroids I mean I don't know that's a good question let's check go to the tape go to the tape

I'm just looking forward to Chris Hemsworth shaving the entire top of his head that's all I want I mean if you're Hog Hogan

Terry Bollea I believe is his real name you'd be quite stoked that Chris Hemsworth is playing you yeah absolutely

revisionist history there might even be a scene where he shaves his head on camera he's like well look I do have a full head of hair

and will continue to have a full head of hair but WW continue to have a full head of hair, but WWF wants me to shave my head, so I guess I'll shave a bald patch in. What male pattern baldness is in? All right, here we go. I look forward to the recreation of Suburban Commando. Oh, my God, yes, please.

And the three ninjas, kid ninjas, whatever that one was. But to Ninja Mountain, escape to Ninja Mountain. Yeah, great stuff. Actually, he wears a wig in that, which he takes off in the movie. Right. Because he's like, you know, so he embraces it. They should have put that in the whatever this one was. What was his TV show called?

Thunder Alley? The cartoon? No, it was a boat one. It was set in Florida. He drove a speedboat. Of course he did. Night boat. Thunder.

I think it was called Thunder Alley or Thunder Lake or Thunder River. Something with thunder in it. Yeah, that sounds really good. Man, they should reboot all of those. When I was a kid, there was one called The Highwayman. Oh, yeah. With Jacko. Jacko was in it.

And Sam Jones, Flash Gordon. Yeah, that's right. Thunder in Paradise. I feel we may have talked about this in the show before, but there was a show, it was called The Highwayman, and he was like a high-tech bounty hunter who lived in like a Mad Max yeah like a mobile home kind of thing

but was it post apocalyptic or it just looked like Mad Max it just looked like Mad Max but it was just the current day yeah I think it was just the current day and he was like super high tech

but his sidekick was played by Mark Jacko Jackson it was a former rugby league he's the energizer guy yeah Americans would know him as the Oi guy Oi

yeah and he was his name was Jacko but his character's name was Jetto so my favorite of those

I think in the late 80s early 90s was a series called Renegade I remember Lorenzo Lamar Lorenzo Lamar who would ride a

motorbike shirtless but with a leather vest on and his sidekick was a dude called Native American Johnny Sixkiller nice real name yeah okay good bring them all back With a leather vest on. Yes, absolutely. And his sidekick was a dude called, Native American, Johnny Sixkiller.

Real name? Yeah. Okay, good. Bring them all back. I say, team, that's a cinematic universe I would like to see. Renegade. Put the Highwayman in Renegade and Thunder in Paradise. Yeah, Baywatch Nights.

I'm so excited. What's that one where Michael Lansbury was an angel or something? Highway to Heaven. Highway to Heaven. Get him in. Landon. Michael Landon, Heaven. Highway to Heaven. He had him in. Landon. Michael Landon, yeah. Great hair. Yeah, really good hair.

Crazy hair. All right. Bond 25 news. I'm ready. Apparently it might potentially be called Shadow Hand. Who's directing this? Not Danny Boyle. Not Danny Boyle.

I can look that up. But yeah, I don't know at this point. And it's coming out. They're going to make it. It's going to be Carrie Frukenaga oh really yes he's a good director

he is a good director so yeah he did Beast of No Nation Maniac which I haven't seen which you liked that's good yeah

It so there you go no he didn't know he was meant to direct It but he bailed because he said it was going to be

too formulaic and then it goes on to make 800800 million. So he's laughing now, Kerry. I did True Detective as well. Oh, yeah, this guy's got great stuff. Okay, cool. He's a very good director.

And some Atlanta? Is that him? Made that up. I haven't got any. That's a really interesting choice because he's quite subversive too. I'll be interested to see what he does with Bond. Yeah. Like, it'd be great if it's like a bit of True Detective,

just like a nihilist. Well, Bond is kind of nihilistic, isn't he? This new one definitely is. Just like existential crisis about drinking martinis and having sex with beautiful women. And all these brothers, all these villains are brothers and know each other or something. Yeah.

What happened in that last one? It's not a bad name. Yeah. Shatterhand. Do you think the Shatterhand is a metaphor or do you think it's just a guy with a big iron hand? I think, yeah, that's it. I want to be a big Shatter do you think it's just a guy with a big iron hand? I want to say big shatter hand. Because there's been a dearth of those characters.

The last one was Jaws. No, the last one was Diamond Face. We did it the other day, but we haven't really had any novelty. I'm not big on Bond, but I think I've seen the Daniel Craig. Can you remind me, what are the Bond ones? So there's Casino Royale, Quantum of Solace, Spectre. Skyfall first. Skyfall and then Specter and what happened inspector is that the one with brother was low fell no that was skyfall i haven't seen specter yeah you don't need okay there's a bit

where they drill into his brain to remove his memories and they do it but he's all right they missed they missed all the good ones They missed Yeah Yeah And it had the biggest explosion ever Or something in it Didn't it? Like the biggest

I believe technically It did have the biggest explosion But I don't Like it hasn't stuck in my memory As the biggest explosion So where did we leave him At the end of Spectre? He left

He retired and got In a good relationship Oh hang on No but that's not where He goes back to Scotland And there's the shootout at the Funhouse. No, that's Skyfall. So he...

Meets a lady. At the end of the last one, he meets a lady and then he goes off into the sunset. And I think the assumption is that the next one will be sort of a remake of the movie on Her Majesty's Secret Service, which is where he gets married and then his wife's killed. I was going to say, as soon as he said he meets a lady, I'm like, well, she's dead.

But the thing is, they've done that. They've done it, exactly. They did it in Casino Royale and then he got better. He recovered and he's like, I can love again. At what point do MI6 go, Bond, all these women keep dying around you.

You're the one common denominator. We think maybe you're a suspect. Yeah, right. I heard Daniel Craig said he's not going to dye his hair for this one. Oh, really? Yeah. That's why I respect that.

Don't I, Mason? You couldn't say that, but I pointed directly at James. And his grey, grey hair. I cut it out, but there was a 10-minute pause where Charlie just pointed at me. And we all laughed. I'm looking forward to this. Yeah, same. I mean, I kind of want to read it at this point because I felt kind of done

and he felt very tired in the last one and also he hates it because he tells everybody didn't you do like a press conference where it was like this sucks

I hate everything yeah but I think you know you do press and I'd imagine you do 40 interviews a day for three weeks poor guy

I must suck 30 million dollars yeah exactly right yeah it's yeah good on him I imagine what you could do is if you got all the

press interviews that get put up on YouTube you could if you wanted to you could arrange them chronologically like you could figure out what happened

what opened you know here's the 9am interview and here's the 5pm interview and then see stubble grow yeah just sweaty and angry and oh there's more cards

for me to read improv suggestions off oh this is very exciting this is great yeah what breakfast radio team got a wack more cards for me to read improv suggestions off. Oh, this is very exciting. This is great. Yeah, what breakfast radio team got a wacky question for me? God. Good on him. Star Wars news, everyone, because there always is.

Awesome. Oh, actually, you might want to watch Spectre just because Dave Bautista's in it. Is that it? Yeah, he is in there. I like him. He's the henchman. Were you pandering to because I'm a wrestling fan? You're like, hey, Charlie, he's a reference. Listen up, Charlie.

Because I was saying about how we've run out of weird villains in Bond. He would be. He's got steel thumbs. He's got steel thumbs, but nothing ever happens with it. Or he can hitchhike really well. Yes, that's exactly right. He pulls out a guy's eyes, but you don't really see it, I think. No, he's just got steel thumbs, and it's never referred to.

There's a pretty decent fight between him and Daniel Craig on a train, from memory. That's true, yeah. And there's that biggest explosion, maybe. Oh, yeah. Yeah, all right, cool. That's good. So where are you on Star Wars? Look, I'm not really a Star Wars.

I like the old, the original trilogy. Sure. Four, what is it? Four to six. Yep. Like everyone. trilogy uh four what is it four to six uh like everyone um and then i was not a huge fan of force awakens and i really like the last jedi which i think shows how far off being a star wars fan i know oh really and therefore our opinion means nothing i was actually overseas

when it came out and i was traveling a lot so i didn't really uh pick up i was in i think it's in amsterdam when i went and saw it and i going, oh, that was really great because it felt so different. Like we were talking about before where you get someone, a different director or a writer. He was on drugs when he watched it, James. Drugs. I don't want a drugs person in the podcast. It's okay, you can't hear this. I don't want a drugs person.

It's okay. When I had the drugs, I just threw it in the air. Okay, good, good, good, good. Oh, you had a drugs party i'm the actor charlie clausen yeah but there was no because i was there was no like talk of it being this kind of like sjw like yeah whatever so i just went and saw a movie and came out and gone oh that was unexpected like i was expecting luke's gonna be this badass you know you're gonna come in the third act it's do a flip. I love the idea that he's this dude who's like, you know what? Like in 50, 60 years of having the force and stuff, it sucks. Like you keep fighting and nothing happens.

So I'm going to do something different. Having seen all the video essays since, I get why people are like, this is why it's inconsistent. This is why it doesn't make sense. Yeah, but I don't give a shit about the universe enough to care. You know what's inconsistent? People. Yes. Isn't that what it's about? I don't give a shit about the universe enough to care. You know what's inconsistent? People. Yes.

And isn't that what it's about? I'd say it's probably 50-50. So you've angered half the people. If you had said the other thing, it wouldn't have mattered. So whatever you said, it wouldn't have... But when you were talking

about the Ghostbusters thing, you made me think, it's like, yeah, look, so many people hold these properties so dear to their heart. There's always going to be a significant portion of the audience who are going to be unhappy.

You can't possibly tick every box. And I think it's also, I think that they bring in these directors who have like a style and a vision and stuff. You don't want them just to sort of do that Marvel thing where it's like, our way or the highway. You want them to come in and bring a bit of their point of view or their, and so I don't, I don't, what do you want? Do you want like a film designed by algorithm?

Sounds like they do. Some people do. Yeah, absolutely. And that might be coming. Yeah, definitely. Did you guys see that thing? Like there's now a website we can just click and it generates a person for you.

Like it algorithmically designs like a... It's so weird. Creates like a deep fake person for you. I saw the AI newsreader in China. Yeah, right. He's a weatherman. And I could not tell that he was, not because I'm racist. No.

I could not tell that he was like CGI. Maybe I'm a little racist. No, it was scary. And that, I mean, that's just going to, I think about, you know, what I do for a living. It's like, oh, my days are numbered. Like for sure they're gonna i mean they're just gonna start reviving marlon brando and stuff and cgi him

and putting him in things care like i don't want that i want to see people i don't need to see what if you can't tell though but what if you won't you can't tell like that movie simone with al pacino yeah good point but also brando was a prick i don't want to see him again i'm glad he's dead yeah but no i I don't know. I really hope it doesn't go that way because it'll eventually be flawless. Did you see Rogue One where they brought back Peter Cushing

in the Star Wars movie? That didn't seem flawless to me. No, absolutely not. That seemed nightmarish. Like a corpse walking around. But I don't know. I think, I'm hoping that people will go, we don't need this because we have,

you know, real people. Yeah, right. Well, there's always going to be something missing. so well i went and saw um battle angel elisa preparation to do your show oh that's right yeah and i got cancelled sorry about that uh but i was looking at i mean because the integration of live action and cgi and that was pretty did you see it in 3d no it's actually that's i'd very rarely go to see 3d i just don't like the sensation of it but that was one film that's like i bet this would have been better in 3d in terms of the layering of real life components and cgi but it did make me think well it's motion capture

at the moment and we're getting these really realistic photorealistic cgi characters but pretty soon they'll have recorded enough actors doing enough things. They won't need motion capture. They'll just go to their archive of movements. I mean, that newsreader, that Chinese newsreader, I think that's all he is, is they just got someone to read a bunch of news and they've just copied his gestures

and facial tics and voice patterns. And now you can just pump in whatever propaganda you want. I mean, that's the thing is you watch it and like he's going to start talking about weather, like, he's going to start talking about weather, but then he's going to start talking about the groups in society we need to eliminate. And after you've done that, enjoy some Cheetos. Well, Charlie, have you considered getting giant eye surgery? Yes.

Yes. Did they explain why she has big eyes? She did look like that in there. But is it like an advantage to that range of androids to have big eyes? But other people in that anime and manga also have looked like that. But in the movie, it's just her. It's just her and the other, whatever, T-800s, whatever they are. The other super soldiers.

No, I mean like other characters. What other characters? So in the anime. Oh, yeah. Other characters have big eyes. Yeah, they all have the big eyes. But I just kept waiting for an explanation. Yeah, right. other characters who what other characters so in the anime oh yeah other characters yeah they all have the big eyes but I just kept

waiting for an explanation but no one brings up hey your android friend has really alarming big eyes

like I thought it was going to be oh she can see at night or you know she's going to pitch black it or something

okay yeah sure yeah no they didn't maybe there is maybe there probably is a very complex and did they downsize the eyes

from the first trailer to what we saw because I feel like i feel like i feel like there's some tweaking definitely went on because it was a little unnerving and and i don't know if it was just we went in i think maybe we went in expecting dinner plate eyes and then we it wasn't as bad and we settled in but maybe i think also maybe they tweaked it a little because they were horrifying we've we have the theory that james cameron can't perceive the uncanny valley because nobody looks him in the eye so he can't tell if cgi 97 he can't tell if cgi is so close to being human but it is inhuman that throws people off like so he doesn't know i watched avatar recently and was surprised by how well that's hold up the cgi now like that's still by far and away the best motion capture,

even better than like the Lord of the Rings stuff. Sure, yeah. Which I, does that mean he owns it? I mean, I know where to do it, but does he own the tech for that? I know he developed it independently for years leading up. Does that guy ever sleep when he's not in bloody submarines? I don't know what he's up to. The submarine is his sleep time.

That's the only way he can get some rest you started to talk about that earlier how he didn't like Aquaman then something happened we got derailed maybe I said dwarf I think you probably said dwarf

well he didn't like Aquaman because it wasn't realistic underwater stuff yeah right he's like how come how does he propel himself hang on you said that or James Cameron said that

no you were about to bring it up on this show I was going to bring it up yeah look we've all said a lot of things on this show. I was going to bring it back, yeah. Look, we've all said a lot of things on this podcast, alright? Some of which we stand by and some of which we can't remember we said. But yeah, James Cameron didn't like nah, this guy. But you just said because he's like, I've spent thousands of hours underwater so I didn't know what it looks like. I know what it's like. Well, guess what James Cameron

we haven't all spent thousands of hours underwater. We're not all you, alright? So it looked fine to me. Absolutely. Okay, anyway, Star Wars news. Sorry, yeah. That's where we were. There's rumours of these are the TV series we might be getting or might be in development,

bearing in mind their rumours. A young Princess Leia story. They're talking about, yeah. Where did she get her white robes? Where did she get the hairstyle? You know your hair would look a lot better like this, Princess Leia. Thanks, Woody Harrelson. So the people are saying the Stranger Things girl would be a good young princess.

Eleven? Yeah, but I don't want to see this. There's probably like a dozen actresses who could do that right. No doubt. Or a robot or whatever. Or a Chinese news anchor. I don't know. Captain Phasma story.

Or maybe one of us on our knees with shoes strapped to them. Shoes on the knees, shoes on the side of the head. Captain Phasma with Gwendolyn Christie, which I think could be interesting. Yeah. Because she doesn't get a lot of play in the movies.

And we also don't even really know what Captain Phasma is. There's a lot of backstory in the comics, man. Yeah, she kind of died sort of... Yeah,ropos do we is there is there already a comic book that explains yes oh no no but there is a book that explains her origin and she's from a warrior planet she's not a robot no but what she does in between star wars movies the new ones she goes off world to kill a resistance officer who knows that she's the one who let down the shields on stariller Base.

Does any of that make sense what I just said? Yeah, I mean, sure to someone. Sure, yeah. So she goes hunts this guy down. Okay, right. She doesn't reveal. That's not revealed.

The Knights of Ren, who you may know as something that's been mentioned in the movies. No. Rose Tico, her Kelly Murray trans character. She's got a sister.

Oh, she's embraced by the internet, right? The people love her. They love her. That's going to go well, yep. Yeah, but she does have her Kelly Marie Trans character she's got a sister who dies oh she's embraced by the internet right beloved beloved that's gonna go well yep yeah but but she does have an interesting backstory

with her sister because they you know they come from are they talking about making a spin-off for her yeah well no this is the rumor but that's again

I don't really want to say that and Darth Bane who's like an old Sith character I mean at this point who is gonna why would you do a Star Wars why would you direct one

or act in one like that's what I wonder I mean money and fame I mean money and fame I guess but like I just think that like who is going to, why would you do a Star Wars? Why would you direct one or act in one? Like, that's what I wonder. I mean, money and fame. I mean, money and fame, I guess. But like, I just think that like, I mean, what's the... I can't believe Rian Johnson's still on Twitter. Yeah. Well, a mate of mine is an Australian actor

whose name is also Rian Johnson, but R-Y-A-N. He's on Dr. Doctor, the Channel 9 show. Okay, yeah. But he still cops abuse from people seeking him out to say that he ruined Star Wars. This is true. I say not the director. Not Ryan Johnson, yeah.

Send all hate here. I know him. Is he the guy from the... No, he's not the guy from the Tim Tam ads, is he? Yeah, he is. Okay, there you go. Right. Wow, that's a great recall.

Those are... Thank you. Close to 20 years. Wait, which Tim Tam ads? Remember the genie? He's the genie. No, no, he's the guy. I got sent a lot of Vostok. Oh, okay. Yeah. Because the genie he's the genie no no I got sent a lot of

Vostok oh okay yeah because the genie was also a rapper yeah from 1200 techniques yeah

yeah alright good alright we know people this is a very there'll be about four people in the world

will appreciate this episode link the Tim Tam ad below James I won't do it google it oh wow eat a Tim Tam everyone if you've never't do it Google it oh wow but also

eat a Tim Tam everyone if you've never eaten one they're very good they're amazing but the big one was when was the last time you had a Tim Tam Charlie you're too ripped

to eat Tim Tams now it's been a while mate you're a donuts guy I am a donuts guy I had donuts last night there you go and I I can't remember

when I last had a Tim Tam because they there's all those flavours now it's hard to choose. Does anyone eat just a traditional Tim Tam anymore? I'll do a double choc occasionally. The double coat. Yeah, double coat.

I think there's a Black Forest one. That's a good one. The jam in the middle. Yeah. I'm into it. I'll go down that way. But the last one that people are really excited about is the Obi-Wan spinoff.

That sounds good. I've watched that. Me too. Which was going to be a movie, but they never announced it. And it's Ewan McGregor too, so he's quality. He's hiding in the desert. What's he up I've watched that. Me too. Which was going to be a movie but they never announced it. And it's Ewan McGregor too so he's quality. He's hiding in the desert.

What's he up to? Hiding. Eating sand. So it'd pick up after episode three. Yeah, presuming like five to ten. Great. So it's literally

cast away in the desert. Exactly. But you could put in Joel Edgerton who's... Uncle Owen. Do you know him at all? Yes, a little bit. Is he nice?

Yes. Can he do a flip? I don't know. Does Uncle Owen need to be gymnastic? That's a good point actually. A young, sprightly Uncle Owen needs to do a flip.. Is he nice? Yes. Can he do a flip? I don't know. Does Uncle Owen need to be gymnastic? That's a good point, actually. A young, sprightly Uncle Owen needs to do a flip. Would it work, though? I mean, because Uncle Owen...

Yeah, I guess it doesn't matter. They've aged appropriately. Yeah, it's fine. Yeah. Would they have to age Ewan up? No. Not really. No.

Middle-aged? Yeah, he's 45. Maybe a bit of grey in his beard. Yeah, he's aged horribly. You can borrow some of your grey. Absolutely. Wait a minute. He waited... Yeah, he's aged horribly. You can borrow some of your grey. Absolutely. Wait a minute. He waited.

Yeah, he's in the desert for like 19 years. So you'd have to set it closer to the Ewan McGregor than the Alec Guinness because he aged horribly in that 20 years. And so you can have a baby Luke as well. Yeah, baby Luke. Get Jake Lloyd's kid to play Luke. Wouldn't that be amazing? Amazing.

It all comes full circle. Ruin two generations of people's lives by getting them involved in Star Wars get Jake Lloyd bassing it on the knees anyway I want to see this and I hope they make it

that's the only one of all those things you mentioned it's the only one that I seem vaguely interested in I agree with you on that

last bit of news Jessica Jones and the Punisher are officially cancelled you alright mate they ripped the bandaid sorry I was so surprised I agree with you on that. Last bit of news. Jessica Jones and The Punisher are officially cancelled. You alright, mate? I'm fine. They ripped the band-aid off. Sorry, I was so surprised at the cancellation of Jessica Jones and The Punisher.

Nick just threw something across the room. I'm sorry, what? I'm surprised they did both at once. Because they kept cancelling them after every series. Yes. And now they've gone, okay, you know what, let's forget this charade. Because Jessica Jones Season 3, not out yet. But The Punisher Season two just came out.

Eminem's not happy. Yeah, I saw that. For the show. No, he doesn't seem happy a lot of the time though, I've got to be honest. I've listened to a lot of his music. Is he drawing his beard on now? What's he up to?

I don't know. It's weird, that beard. Also with beards too, like as three bearded gentlemen. Sure, hello. Like where do you draw the line in terms of the bottom of the beard? It's hard. Some dudes take it right up to the jaw

and I'm like, ah, it's a bit weird. You need something underneath your chin. You can't take it too high. Well, Nick, you're the expert.

Yeah, tell us. What do you think? I don't know, guys. I just, just have a beard. Yeah.

I'm just using it to hide my adult acne, guys. I'd love to hear Eminem do a new diss track for you, just because you said something on this podcast. Good on him. Apparently, there's some licensing thing. Like, it's very expensive for Netflix to license it. There's still...

Some people are saying it was Netflix. Some people are saying it was Marvel that cancelled it or whatever. But who knows? Who knows? It's done. And we're going to have to endure one more of these I guess well endure some they're good aren't they

yeah I liked the first series of Daredevil maybe watched some parts of the second and then I just kind of drifted off I didn't watch really any of the other ones

I tried to watch Luke Cage first series I was like oh no it all felt very padded yeah like I felt like you could have done six episode seasons and been great

yeah I think that what happened is that we were all so excited for hey it's Marvel TV on Netflix we're going to get all these episodes at once isn't that so exciting and in the first couple people liked a lot and I think the lesson they learned was

just keep, just shovel 13 episodes at us all the time I think it's streaming TV in general though I think because the demand and the way they make it, it seems to be there's a first season that's awesome, seems to be easy. But it's the follow-up season, because everything that I've been following up on,

it's like Stranger Things 2, whatever. I don't know if it's the time frame they work in. Is that all the good ideas they use in the first one? Yeah, it's a difficult second album. And I think, I don't know, maybe there was more money in old, like, traditional TV that they'd pour into development. We've got Daredevil

to punch those guys in all the ways we could think of in the first season. We've run out of ways from a bunch of people. Can we kick? Well, did they...

So they went back to the non-costume in the third season, is that right? They did, yes. Yes. I wonder if that was a reaction because that was

what was so great was the anticipation of, well, here comes the costume. Yeah, that's right. I kind of feel like the last episode of the first series was the worst episode. It's like, when he put the costume on,

I'm like, this is dumb. Like, I really enjoyed it. Exactly. Right up until now. Because now he's bulletproof. Yeah. So what's the... They tweak it for the...

It looks better in the... Second one. It's the mask in particular. It's kind of the eyes are too close or something. Yeah. Will you rise with the sun to help change mental health care forever? Join the Sunrise Challenge to raise funds for CAMH,

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Mason, can I tell you a story? It's an ad and a story, though. Well, look, I was not interested in one of your boring stories, but if it also contains an ad, I'm ready to listen. Here we go. Once upon a time in 2009, two guys set out to make the perfect tea, a tea that felt like an old favorite from day one, perfectly broken in and absurdly soft.

And their names were Mike and Adam. Mike. Oh. Okay. Do I have to remember these names? Because this seems like a kind of a long story already. I don't know if it comes up again. I'm enjoying the fact that it's going to segue into an ad.

Yeah. So I'm happy for that. But don't make me... How many more names are you going to give me? All right? Those are all the names. We'll see. It took them about a year to nail the custom fabric.

And once they did, they made their first match of tees and bought the old VW bus to transport them. An old VW bus. Not the. The one... They purchased the one remaining VW bus to transport them. An old VW bus, not the. They purchased the one remaining VW bus. Nine years, add a few credit cards, and two buses later, they built a brand around those absurdly soft shirts. I'm, of course, talking about Marine Layer.

They do Henleys, jackets, pants, sweaters. You get it. I've got a sweet-ass bloody flannel. I just saw it. It's the most comfortable shirt i've ever owned legitimately it's so soft it's like sleeping in a comfortable shirt are you sleeping in that shirt sometimes yeah i'll take a nap that's great yeah i got myself because they what what happened with us also is that they because we're doing an ad for them they said

here have a little credit yeah and you can go and you can buy some stuff. We both independently bought more stuff than they, they were like, you can have this amount. We're like, I'm going to get more.

I'm going to try some stuff. I tried, I got a pair of jeans, bought a pair of jeans. I got a tee and I got a, like a, like a terrycloth sweatshirt.

Oh man, it's good stuff. It's good stuff. I got a raglan long sleeve tee also. I got a raglan long sleeve tee. Oh man, I'm going to, I'm getting another one of those flannels.

I'm going to get one. I've got flannels. I'm going to get one. I've got one in red. I'm going to get one in blue. Oh, yeah. Mason, when we say soft, we don't mean, oh, it's soft. I mean, we mean that. Sure. It's crazy soft.

We mean, when we say a word, we mean the literal definition of the word. But also, another thing you're going to say. Correct. These guys, they're made from micromodal. Mike and Adam are made from micro-modal. No, no, no. I guess that makes sense now. It's micro-modal because they're made from the softest teas are made from the softest trees.

Oh, yeah. Recycled beech wood. So there you go. They've also got in-between sizes. They do. They have marge. Marge and larger for dudes who just don't conform to standards, which I think is really good. That's cool.

Yeah. And their return think is really good. That's cool. Yeah. And their return policy is insanely good. You can pretty much return anything up to a year. What? That's right. That's madness. And they what, plus they offer free shipping and free returns of all US orders.

I didn't look into returns because I want to keep my stuff. Agreed. That's insanity. It's high quality. It's very soft. You know what I like about it? Yep. Is it all works together. Yes. Like as someone who has a lot of clothes, That's insanity It's high quality It's very soft You know what I like about it Yep Is it all works together

Yes Like as someone who has a lot of clothes I'm often paralysed by choice Because I'm like Well if I wear those pants Then I have to I'm going to have to find The different t-shirt

Where's that With this you can You could literally just go Grab a You could do it blindfolded You grab a pair of pants You grab a tee You grab a button up shirt

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Imagine the X-Men, except the guy's in charge is a shit bloke, I guess. Sorry, Mason, what do you think the story was? Oh, come on, Mason. It's him. Come on, you. So glad to see that live in person. It's everybody's favorite segment, Mason. It's not my favorite segment. You never think about my feelings, do you?

All right. So what is the... Okay. So here we go, Charlie. Here we go. I'm going to do it live. I'm excited. Stop putting it off.

I'm waiting. Here's the plot of the Umbrella Academy. Okay. So 1989. Yep. 43 children are born from women who were not pregnant before. And then a real prick of a man, Reginald Hargraves, who's a billionaire adventurer, he goes and tries to...

Kind of looks like an older version of you, really. Does he? Yeah, with the beard and the hair. I can see that, yeah. All right, should I get a monocle? Yep, definitely. All right, good. Do you not have one?

No. Movement, I believe. Yeah, movement monocles. One of see that, yeah. All right, should I get a monocle? Yep, definitely. Do you not have one? No. Movement, I believe. Yeah, movement monocles. One of my eyes is better than the other, so maybe I should get a monocle. Just cover my bad eye. And he adopts seven of the kids, and they've got weird powers.

What's going on there? Yep. What is going on there? And then cut to the modern day. It turns out a guy, a rich adventurer who buys kids isn't a great father and so they've all they've all given up

on that life but now they've got to come back together because he dies yes what's gonna happen for an umbrella academy yeah

what is everybody's thoughts on this in general me and familiar yeah I took me a while to get into it first couple episodes

because you messaged me after the first episode and you're like that dance the dance number in the first episode they all dance like that dance the dance number in the first episode they all dance to Tiffany he puts on Tiffany

oh yeah and it's just the most like awkward on the nose interesting scene where they all dance it's like

this is so lame I thought it was really charming they thought they were alone but they were dancing together maybe you didn't get it Charlie oh you mean

when they pulled back and showed all of them in their separate rooms dancing sounds like you didn't get Maybe you didn't get it, Charlie. Oh, you mean when they pulled back and showed all of them in their separate rooms dancing? Sounds like you didn't get it. I didn't get it. No, it's funny. I heard you guys talking about this last week, maybe a couple of weeks ago, because I'd read the comic. I couldn't remember anything.

Well, I remember parts of it. And when I was watching the show, it took me a while to get into it. I was like, I'm not sure I'm enjoying this. But then I went back to the comic. I was like, oh, it actually filled out the series for me much better and i actually was it's like oh this actually works as a companion piece works really really well um so i'm about halfway through the series you can spoil it i don't mind uh that's fine we'll mark spoilers for people i think what they do really well is they don't rush explanations.

They leave enough kind of like, what's the word? It's like MacGuffins up there. You don't, you know, just things that they put out there. You're like, what's going on here? And they're very patient in the way that they don't pay it off until later in the series. So I think I'm at the point where number five, you get his whole story. And I was like, oh, because I'd forgotten all about that from the comic book. And I thought that was worth the wait

because I was getting frustrated with what's happening. Yeah, right, huh? I'm in the now generation. Tell me what's going on immediately. It's definitely a fine line on shows and I think Lost did this poorly of throwing things out there

and then waiting a certain amount of time and then answering those questions. But I think the show, yeah, it gives you, yeah, it gives it, there's enough time

where you don't get sick of it. You're like, just give me an answer. I think they kind of, they give you enough information as it goes along. And I think the design of yeah, it gives you, yeah, there's enough time where you don't get sick of it. You're like, just give me an answer. I think they kind of, they give you enough information as it goes along. And I think the design of the show is pretty amazing. Yes. Like, it looks great.

I mean, it's such a bizarre concept to bring to life, but I think they've done a really good job of making that kind of, it's not the real world. It's sort of like an alternate kind of reality. Bloody hell, that CGI ape looks good as well for TV. That's amazing. Best actor in the show. I mean, it feels like they're shooting on the same set that they shot the haunting of hill house i haven't seen that but but it looks identical i mean because i only just recently watched that

and it's like i feel like they've reused the same set yeah yeah what about you where are you at with it i finished the series well done that doesn't make you better than me. It kind of does, though, doesn't it? Just in this one specific context, I'm going to take the win. And I didn't go back and read the comic books because I felt like if I went and reread it, I'd just be anticipating what was going to happen. And I think in re-watching the series, they have tweaked quite a bit of it.

There's some elements that they have... Because there was the original Umbrella Academy and then there was Dallas, which was the sequel, and they've sort of incorporated some of the newer series into the original storyline, and they've sort of mucked it all about. But I really enjoyed what they've turned this into. I'd be interested to see what the original writer and artist...

Because they seem to have been quite silent on the release of it. I'd be interested to know what they think of. Gerard Way. Yeah, Gerard Way. My Chemical Romance. My Chemical Romance is very own, yeah. Every time I hear a musical sting, I'm like, is that a My Chemical Romance song?

Yeah. He slipped in a bit of his, look at some royalties. Yeah, every time there's a drug reference, I'm like... Just dip my beak a little. Chemical romance? I don't know, yeah. Yeah. He didn't...

He was on Kevin's... On Smodcast, Jodeway, him and his brother, about two or three years ago. And it's a... I think they were talking about Umbrella Academy. And he's a really interesting guy. Like, it was a really great interview. It goes for, like, three hours or something,

if anyone wants to check that out. Okay. Yeah, go listen to the podcast. It's not on the planet broadcast how dare you Charlie that's just going to

be all white noise sorry was Charlie being racist again he said something weird about a Chinese broadcaster I thought it did a really good job of

balancing all the main characters I felt like all of them got a good amount of time like it didn't become like just the Alan Page show or just the guy who's addicted to drug show or whatever. I thought the way it balanced that was...

A lot of movies can't handle that. Yep. Favourite character? I liked the drug... No, I liked the kid. The time travelling... He is good. Number five.

He's a great actor. Really good actor. What's he from? He looks like he's a Stranger Things kid, but he's not. I think he's from like some Disney channel show

American kids are weird though like they certainly are they're all so articulate and well spoken and stuff like I feel like Australian kids are very

monosyllabic and don't make eye contact whereas especially actor kids like they're so like I mean the way they can like

hello for a guy who's playing a 70 year old or however his name is. Yeah, really. Yeah. Amazing. I couldn't emote when I was that age at all. I constantly forgot that he was, you know, that he was a real life 13 year old boy.

I'm like, well, he's, he's technically the same age as the others, but he's also older. Like that came across. I thought that was really good. He was in the show, Nicky, Ricky, Dicky and Dawn on Disney disney look we're all nicky ricky dicky and dawn is here so we know we know that he's 15 in real life as well so he's not that good an actor when he was 13 i thought he was amazing exactly who's your least favorite character i mean what are they going to do though like if they make subsequent series i often think about this because when you age up puberty yeah yeah i feel like if you're 15 though you've probably done a lot of the changes you because i look i'm mostly the same i mean i look terrible what no i mean when you're 15 no

i'm like i'm like the same height right like roughly the same build from from from what age 15 about 15 that can't be right no i don't you't. You are not the same weight. And the same height? Yeah, I'm the same height. Did you shoot up? Not really. I just kind of stopped at like 5'9", 5'10", whatever I am. Yeah. No, I don't buy that perspective.

Sorry. You're a liar. You knew me when I was 15. Yes. No? Same height and weight? I just don't believe that. I mean, not same weight, obviously. Oh, no.

I'm probably... No, I would have definitely been... Charlie, Charlie. Then. You know what I mean? Yeah, right. I'm making the... No, he's making a muscle man pose. No, I wasn't. I was making a leaner Charlie then you know what I mean yeah I'm making the no he's making a muscle man pose

no I wasn't I was making a puffer fish face you know what I got told yesterday I went and got a suit fitting for a wedding and the guy said you've got a really your waist

you've got no waist and I'm like thanks he's like no it's a good thing I'm like cool he's like you've got to build like an Italian greyhound like is this guy insulting me what is happening

or hitting on you yeah I'm like oh you've got the hips of a greyhound like is this guy insulting me yeah what's happening or hitting on you oh you got the hips hairless yeah you could chase my rabbit anytime lick my face yeah uh but did you guys have a least favorite um i i think allison is probably the least interesting to me i don't really know allison's i don't? Is she the rumor one? Yeah, she's the rumor.

She gets more to do, I think. Again, I'm on the halfway through. I mean, I thought they're all good. To be honest, like Ellen Page, I don't know. Like I don't, she's not my first choice as an actress in anything. I think she's fine, but I don't know. But I thought Carl is amazing. That actor is so great.

The guy, the druggie. Oh yeah. Carl? Yes. Because he was in. So amazing. I actor is so great. The guy, the druggie. Oh yeah. Carl? Yes. Because he was in, so amazing. I cannot remember the character. I can't remember the names either.

But he was in Mortal Engines, which we saw recently, which you'd forgotten. But a lot of people wrote in and said, the Misfits, which a lot of people over the years have said to watch. Oh right. Because he's an Irish actor.

Yes. Yeah. Because I actually read when they were casting from, I actually auditioned. I was going to ask actor. Yes. Yeah. Because I actually read when they were casting for him, but I actually auditioned. I was going to ask you about that. Yeah. And I remember reading that on the page and thinking, oh, this will be great if they get the right actor, not me.

I read it and was like, I'm definitely not right for this role. But if they get the right actor, this is going to make someone into a star. Who did you... Luther. Oh, the brother. Spaceball. But then it was like, Tom Hopper's like six foot four i was like i was never really right yeah because it's funny when i actually watched it i i actually went i found

the tape of the audition i did and i went back to see what scene that i'd done from the show and i was like okay yeah this is fine but i'm 40 years old like these guys are all meant to be 27 yeah right like why did i even go in for this i I was way, way, way too old for it. And not nearly tall enough. Well, I think you look great and tall. Oh, thank you. So anyways, I came round. They would have put you in the suit.

You would have, you know, you would have had a couple of inches on you. I don't look like I'm half gorilla. Gorilla, yeah. Spoilers. Yeah, that's revealed reasonably early. I was like, he looks like a gorilla. Yeah. He's got the body of a gorilla.

That's different, actually. I guess like, he looks like a gorilla. Yeah. He's got the body of a gorilla. That's different, actually. I guess this is a bit of a spoiler. In the comic, his head is taken off and he's given a gorilla's body. In this, they give him a serum. Yeah. I mean, it's not crazy. It's a Martian gorilla, so it's not crazy. They also, in the TV series, treat it like it is meant to be a bit of a mystery.

You don't know why he's covered up the whole time. Yeah, right. And I sort of felt like they could have made more of that he's a monster, but they sort of brushed past it real quick. It's like, oh, hideous, but nah, you're fine. He's got abs. Yeah, exactly. He's fine.

How did I get that surgery? That's zero. Yeah. What about the action sequences for this? Yeah. I think there's some solid. They feel people are getting hurt, I felt, for a lot of it. There's a lot of shooting.

A lot of shooting. Yeah. And also, do you get, it's one of those things where it's like the X-Men. they feel people are getting hurt I felt for a lot of it there's a lot of shooting a lot of shooting yeah and also do you get it's one of those things where it's like the X-Men it's like convenient losing of superpowers that's your favourite thing Mason

you can friggin teleport why are you running that's right why don't you just teleport teleport to a safe well there's bits where he kind of runs out of gas

right is that what it is yeah so he can kind yeah so he kind of he tries to do it and he's like I've kind of used my six in a row I need to kind of refractory period yeah is that what it is? Yeah, so he tries to do it and he's like, I've kind of used my six in a row. I need to kind of refractory period.

Yeah. Is that right? You can make that up? No, he doesn't say that. You've just decided. I've just decided that's what it's called. Yeah. But when that kid's going, like teleporting and kicking

and choking and stabbing, those bits are quite good. Yeah, it was like an R-rated Nightcrawler sequence. Yeah, right. That's a good comparison. Thank you. You're welcome. I want to ask you about the audition. I mean, I don't know how this works.

People would be curious about this. How does it work for these things? Well, generally, when I say audition for it, that means I was no closer to getting the role than I am right now. Like when they do these auditions, they send out far and wide la for i was in it but i was in australia when i did the time so i just put it i just put a tape down okay so literally they just your agent says there's a show here's this yeah yeah yeah so they'll put out a casting brief they say we're looking to cast this show we're looking for males or females between you know this age and this age and so

your agent or manager or whatever will put you forward. The casting agent says, we'd like to look at him. Can he send us a tape or can he come in? So they asked me to send in a tape. So I did one for Luther and then they said, oh, could you also do one for Klaus? Yes. So I put tapes down for both.

Yeah, right. But I felt like sometimes as an actor you get sent something and you're like, there's no way I'm getting this. But it's always worthwhile putting it down because I'm like, oh. You could get on someone's radar for something else. Yeah, security guard number two.

You could be the guy who gets shot in the face. Yeah, right, yeah. Look, we're not going to give you Luther or Klaus, but we are going to give you Pogo the monkey. Yeah, exactly. You have any experience with shoes on your knees and you're like I do

so do you when you get when you get a this sort of thing do you get any plot revelations or do they just give you a scene

generally they'll send you a script yeah I think they sent me the pilot script yeah right so they sent me the pilot the whole thing

yeah they sent me the pilot script and then they sent me is that unusual or is that just depends i mean sometimes it's it's not i mean normally this stuff is all like if they're if they're super serious about it you'll sign like an nd nd nda nda um but often like they're just watermarked and so if you do send it around they'll know because it's got your name on it. Yes. Your agent's name on it. But, yeah, generally they'll send you a script.

Because it's pilot season right now, so I'm getting sent a lot of stuff. And it's all they will send you, the actual pilot script. Because you've got to know what you're doing. Yeah, right. I mean, your manager agent doesn't have time to give you the synopsis. It's not like a secret Marvel project where you don't know who you are. No, I mean, I think we talked about this last time I was here. George Miller, when I auditioned for him a couple of times, he has no script, nothing.

You go in and they send you five. You can choose from one of five generic scenes. Okay, right. I think like one of them is a monologue from Network, the Peter Finch film. The mad as hell, I'm not going to bloody say this shit. And so you can just choose. And apparently he's done that for 30 years

he doesn't get people to do the actual part he gets to do something generic and then he'll see within that if you're the right person but it's all it's all different

yeah right okay I remember I did wear an overcoat for the Lutheran edition because I remember when I read it I was like specifically

he's wearing heavy clothes luckily I had an overcoat so you know I thought that was going to get me the job well he's got his own overcoat had an overcoat so you know I thought that was going to get me the job well he's got his own overcoat I stuffed a pillow under my shirt

so I look like Bulky well the budget's run out if we could get a man who has his own overcoat I remember seeing Tom Hopper the guy who does play Luther in Game of Thrones he's Dickon

what? he's Dickon in Game of Thrones is that the character's name? Samuel Tarly's brother he's called Dickon it's like a joke in the show as well but I remember seeing him in Game of Thrones is that the character's name Samuel Tarly's brother he's called Dickon Dickon it's like a joke in the show as well

but I remember seeing him in Game of Thrones and going oh that guy's got an enormous body and a tiny head and then when I read the if only there was a role

yeah I was like oh he's perfectly cast yeah Dickon Tarly yeah he gets incinerated by a dragon right

of course he does that's right yeah in real life he's fine just so we're clear yeah do we want to do a little bit of spoilers before we move on? So it's... Well, time code.

If people want to jump ahead. So it basically... Charlie, cover your ears and go la la la. Sorry, Charlie. Well, it ends with the apocalypse. They blow a hole in the moon and it crashes into Earth.

And it looks really good. It does look good. It looks absolutely spectacular. Yeah. And then it ends on a cliffhanger where they time jump somewhere. I'll just try to jump back for one second. What do you think of Mary J. Blige?

I like her in this. Uh-oh. Yeah. I didn't recognize her. Has she done much acting before? I don't know. I don't know either. No, I have no idea.

I like the other guy. I think he's really funny. He's from Mindhunter. Oh, right. Yeah, right right i was wondering where i recognized him from yeah is it is it so is it a function of the character you don't like or is it a little bit i mean she's the sort of straight man in that dynamic yeah right but i just i don't find her particularly menacing or capable or right i mean i they're meant to be

like this kind of you know these blue collar yes right like metaphysical hitmen or whatever. I mean, they're meant to be like this kind of, you know, these blue collar hitmen, like metaphysical hitmen or whatever you want to call it. But I just don't find, I just, I don't know,

she doesn't strike me as anything. I don't sort of think, oh, shit's going to go down when Mary J. Blige. It's the same. Just to clarify,

she's in the Scream, the TV series coming up. She's in Sherlock Gnomes where she did a voice and how to train your murders. You got enough murders? Too many murders. You know that one?

How to get away with murder. Mary J. Blige is in that. A bunch of other stuff. 30 Rock as a song. What's her big song? Jackals all by feet so I can dance. Do you know that song?

No. Don't mind it. I probably do, but not that version. Can you be a better singer no i'll sing it then as opposed to playing it off my phone is this something that you're going to go back to yes well i'll complete the series even though you've ruined it for me good not yet but we're going to now yeah i know is there anything else you want to add add to it before we bloody

move it along about the ending were you were you interested enough to go yeah well and that's it's what is interesting actually is going back and reading some of the comic book afterwards is that they have the the the apocalypse suite the first one does end with them saving the world like the this this is a this is a turn yeah for the for the tv series because in the at the at the the end of the comic book, a huge chunk of the moon is going to crash into Earth, but Klaus, who in the comic books also has telekinesis as well as being able to talk to the dead,

just stops it. But in this, he can't because he doesn't have that ability, I guess, or he doesn't have it yet. So the world is destroyed. I think Klaus actually was my favourite because the way they develop his powers even, his powers get more interesting as they go along.

He's the most sympathetic character as well when you understand why he's a drug addict. Yes. You're like, oh yeah, poor Klaus. Your dad was a terrible, terrible man. And my surname actually should be pronounced Klausen. Really? Yeah, but we anglicise it during the Second World War

so people didn't think we were German. Yes. Good move. All right. Will that bloody do it? Yeah, for sure. I definitely recommend this. You know, one thing I would say that I really liked,

having gone back to the comic, there's just a little nod that they do to the comic in each episode is the way they do the opening title. That was fun. It's so great. It's such a clever little nod because in the comic book they will just bring up the umbrella academy logo on an umbrella somewhere within the frame of the panel yes betting they do that in the show and i think it's really great yeah absolutely you know it

also looked like that lemony snicket show it also looked like it was right with diggy hauser no no yes he is you've just ignored everything he's done since heogie Howser He's always Doogie Howser I'm sure he's won Emmys and Tony Awards and stuff But he's still Doogie He's a song and dance man Alright, do you know what it's time for? How would you feel, Charlie If people referred to you as Aaron Simons Your character on 2001's Head Start

You know what's hilarious about that? What's that? I didn't know that you pronounced that Simons So when I did my first scene and I introduced myself I said Aaron Simons And like, they went with it And so they had to change my character's name Because I did my first scene and I introduced myself I said Aaron Simmons and like they went with it and so they had to change

my character's name because I didn't know how to pronounce Simon's amazing how many was that a recurring character there that was what was that

Head Start I don't have any more information in front of me it was a Heartbreak High spin-off ah in the Heartbreak Higher verse in the Heartbreak Higher verse

really it was about essentially it was about you know remember the Nescafe Big Break competition? Yes. Where you'd win 20 grand, you could start your business idea. So that was the concept of the show. It's like six young people have won 20 grand and they have to live in a warehouse. For Nescafe?

Western Sydney, no. It was ABC. The ABC. No branding. No branding. It was one of those things where they, I think our time slot was 6.30 on a Sunday night. Nice. That's when everyone's just desperate

for some drama, some teen drama. People are getting into 60 minutes at that time. Exactly. Oh my goodness. Whoever's on that show, whatever they do now,

I don't know. Anyway, Mason, now it's time for the segment of the show. Oh, what are we reading? What are we going to read? You do listen to the show. That was a test, Charlie.

Okay. That's right. Because we would have sat here all day. I'm doing the show. That was a test, Charlie. Okay. That's right. Because we would have sat here all day. I'm doing the thing. What are we reading today? There's been a lot of pointing at each other.

Yep. Because normally we don't have to point because there's no one else. We don't need to point anyway because no one can see us. Yeah.

Oh, bad. Anyone been reading, reading, watching, doing anything interesting of note? What have I been? So you brought up Maniac before. Yes. So I've gone like a few episodes, six episodes into Maniac. Yes.

Not loving it. Okay. I mean, I have liked parts of it, but it gets better. No, it's pretty much consistently that for the whole series. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it feels like if Wes Anderson and David Lynch. Yes.

Made a film. Yeah. I mean, it's interesting. I think that was my takeaway from it. I'm like, I'm. And I like all the actors in it.

I'm enjoying how interesting this is. I think it didn't, it didn't explode my brain. The concepts didn't. No. Destroy my mind or anything, but I'm like, this is an interesting world that I enjoyed

and I will never go back to do you have to pay attention because I've gone to watch it a few times when I'm editing and I'm like this looks like something I have to really watch I don't know if you do

I really don't think yeah I'm not sure there's nothing really it almost feels like each episode is a bit self contained anyway once you get into the middle it it definitely gets self-contained. Is it Legion-esque?

Different realities? Yes, it is, yeah. Okay, cool. Great. I watched Russian Doll. I'm one episode into this. Let's talk about Russian Doll. It's good, man.

I've finished the whole thing. The good thing about that is it's like maybe six, maybe eight episodes, and they're like 24 minutes each. I watched it in just a sitting, just in an evening. You're not better than us i don't know i am they've proven that i have missed a free time over here look at this guy come on child for god's sake yes what are you doing i don't know i don't know what i'm doing at any point but uh no that i i thoroughly enjoyed that yeah and i that actress i can't remember her name yes who i hadn't really seen since i think she's great she's really good um And it's Groundhog

Day, essentially. My wife has watched it and said to me, you will hate this series. And I was like, well, I like Groundhog Day, so you will hate this actress. And I'm like, okay. You're not really supposed to like her. I liked her. But she's pretty irredeemable in a lot of it. But she's got good qualities

as well. What are you thinking, Mason? Well, I'm only one episode in, so I have not even really got into the groove of the... So the premise basically is that she's at a... It's her birthday. She's at a party.

She steps outside. She's hit by a car. She dies and then she's back at the party again. And is there a... Is it a case of her... Does she need to get out of the time loop?

Or is it... Yeah. Yeah. It's Groundhog Day. Trying to figure out what's the... Happy Death Day. death day to you it boosts that also yeah people people like those yeah well they made a sequel but like i mean how do you make a sequel to a time loop film interesting i guess we'll find out yeah oh no i'm in another bloody time loop aren't I Edge of Tomorrow

is getting a bloody sequel is it yeah Edge Year of Tomorrow yeah is Tom Cruise back yep it didn't make any money

but it's got a lot of traction outside of I think people love Tom Cruise in his attempts to kill himself he has won

the public's favour it's my favourite thing about him that's all people can talk about and so I think now everyone's back on the Tom Cruise way I think maybe He has won the public's favour. It's my favourite thing about him. Like, that's all people can talk about. And so I think now, like, everyone's back on the Tom Cruise way. And I think maybe his weird Scientology quirks have become a bit adorable now.

Like, we were freaked out by them 10 years ago. But now we're like, ah, he's fine. He's probably harmless. It's because he isn't trying to, like, he hasn't, he's spent the last decade. He's not jumping on couches anymore. Exactly. He's not trying to acquire a wife. Exactly. Yeah, exactly.

And we've also mentioned on this show that there's a theory. I think it's my theory. I don't want to lump you in with this. That they won't have Tom Cruise kiss a woman on screen because I don't think people like that aspect of him anymore. I saw someone else on Twitter posit a theory similar about Dwayne The Rock Johnson. He's the most asexual movie star Because you never see him hook up with a lady He might do a kiss on the cheek

I think in Jumanji he did a patch But also he was like 16 I guess that was the Like he wasn't really him So I guess maybe that was an element From time to time you'll have an ex-wife And like He normally has an ex-wife and a daughter

But he never Speaking of the ex-wife trope Yes On the plane down here last weekend To do Battle Angel Alita but he never... Speaking of the ex-wife trope, on the plane down here last weekend to do Battle Angel Alita, which we never recorded. Oh, yes. Go ahead. That was Mason's fault,

I want to point out, by the way. Yeah. I watched The Meg, which is interesting, but that was a weird use of the ex-wife trope because they introduced... The way they get him involved in the adventure is like, your ex-wife's trapped in a sub at the bottom of the ocean and so he's like

all right i'm coming out of retirement and then he goes and gets the ex-wife just puts her in a hospital bed and then he's off he's off to another adventure and then they then they don't bring her back again to the very end when she comes out just like hey i'm still your ex-wife but you should go have sex with that new girl that you like what do you think all right what's going on well yeah what do you think of the meg uh oh well i, I was just really waiting to see Ruby Rose get eaten. I was quite disappointed that I never got to see. Surprisingly bloodless. Yeah.

For a giant monster movie. Yeah, I think it would have been. And the Meg's not even that big, guys. It's pretty big. It's pretty big. It would have benefited from blood. Nah, you got me. It is pretty big.

It wouldn't have made enough money. I think it wouldn't have made the final movie. Didn't it make quite a bit? No, you got me. It is pretty big. It wouldn't have made enough money. I think it wouldn't have made the... Didn't it make quite a bit? No, no, if it was R-rated. And it's also funny to see Jason Statham like doing comedy, but not like self-aware, Fast and Furious style comedy

or spy comedy. He's very funny in that. But when he does labored, poorly written comedy, it's excruciating. Like all the scenes with the little girl where she's, you know, like he's being,

she's been all cute and he's been, I'm just a tough guy but I'll give you a wink and it's just like, this is unbearable. Like I can't watch this. It's a good movie.

We all agree. Yeah, I love the Meg. I think it's great. Can't wait to see it. Meg 2, the Megany. Yeah,

that'll definitely happen. Still Megan. Still Megan. Still Megan. Megan Markle. Yeah, there's four Megs. There's so many of the Megs. Claire was telling me the other day that people have turned on Megan Markle. I didn there's four Megs. There's so many of them, eggs.

Claire was telling me the other day that people have turned on Megan Markle. I didn't know that was a... People are like, she's a homewrecker and she's ruining the royal family. Why is she a homewrecker? No, not a homewrecker. I've used that wrong, obviously. Maybe I have. You've stepped in it yet again, guys.

She's a real... Like, the royals don't like her and she's mean to her staff or whatever. Anyway, I'll probably edit this out. You don't want to put it up. No, no. Leave it in see what the listener reaction is

and maybe next week we can pivot to all Meghan Markle games I thought she was England's darling that was my understanding of it no I think it's

always been there's always a bit of Kate Middleton snootiness she's the King Ralph of she is the King that's very true

good point good reference okay anything else that obscure John Goodman film from 1990 good reference has anybody got anything else? That obscure John Goodman film from 1990. Good reference. Has anybody got anything else they are reading or whatever?

Descender, Volume 2. Oh, yeah. Very good. Ascender's starting soon as well. Oh, what's Ascender? It's a sequel set many years in the future. Right. Yeah.

It's good. I like the artwork. Me too. Me too. I'm finally getting into Transformers more than meets the eye which is the the long running Transformers expanded universe

comic book that's been around it's like it's very very much lauded like this yeah they're newish

yeah they're quite newish they came out like 2016 maybe is when it started maybe you can help me because I remember when I was in primary school there was a run of

Transformers comics I think Marvel back then. This is so up your alley, Mason. I know, right? This is right on the wall now. So in the zone. I remember being a kid. I bet I don't know the answer.

And reading them and being quite traumatized because they were really super violent, like robots ripping each other's heads off. There was a mean one and a nice one. And so I bought what I thought was the comic on Comixology and it's not. It's just shitty 80ies comic cash in. Right.

And I'm like, how do I find the robots ripping each other's heads off and tearing chests open? And it's kind of, you know, that remember like there's certain episodes of Astro Boy. Yeah. Yeah.

Where Apollo, was it Apollo? Who's the guy? The brother? The blonde. Yeah. Yeah. And it'd be super violent.

And you'd be watching like some android get sliced in two as it screamed for its life or something. I'm wanting a bit of that action. So there was the Transformers comic which was based on the cartoon and then after that they had a comic book called Transformers Generation 2. In the 80s?

This would have been like the early 90s. I distinctly remember being in like grade 4 and borrowing some Christopher Reitman's comic book

and reading it and being traumatised because like Megatron was ripping out Starscream's heart or something oh yeah there was

there was an adaptation of the movie it might have been so there was the there was also there was an American version and there was a British version as well.

And the British version had more original stories. And they were a lot grimmer. Like there was a lot of Megatron tearing people's heads off. How do I find that? Is it under Marvel Transformers? I'm cleaning out my parents' house. And there's some old copies under the house. If you'd like to borrow some, I'll scan some and I'll send them over to you.

But yeah, they were a lot. Because the American Transformers comic was monthly and the British one was weekly and so they reprinted the American stuff but then they had

like backup stories that they they were original and they were a lot they were a lot more visceral right so

yeah I want to see robots being mean yeah for sure don't we all the UK one ran from 84 to 91 so that's in your

that might be it that's in the pocket that could be it it adapted the US stories and also some yeah we just heard this we just heard this some of its own stuff also

it's two distinct things did you say that exact thing yes pretty much fuck you Mason clearly don't listen to him you've been working together too long I was googling

he was googling that's true I've got to give him his googling time you know he just needs a bit of peace and quiet and some Googling time. Got to do some Googs. Yes.

All right. Next segment. Have you got that theme ready, Macy? Anyway, More Than Macy Eye is good. And it's more about the interpersonal relationships between the Transformers. Well, boo. No, that's good. That's good.

There's also a companion series to that. There's two series happening concurrently. There's more than Mace the Iron Robots in Disguise that are happening at the same time. Were you buying these

as a kid or were your parents shelling out for it? My grandma was mostly buying them. Bloody hell. I know right. Who are you? Little Lord Fauntleroy?

That's right. My grandma used to hit me with a wooden spoon. I used to have to weed. I used to get a fork and go in the front yard and dig weeds out of the lawn to get five cents of weed

I think. That was like a time killing activity right? That was a dig weeds out of the lawn to get five cents of weed I think that must that was like a time killing activity right that was a real task pocket money but like

they gave you a fork because they wanted to just keep you distracted I guess you're right they could have given you a trowel yeah or even if you used

your hands I'd imagine no I think the fork was actually well designed to hook under the weeds without damaging any other grass that's a good point actually

that is really a good point yeah anyway do you want to do that after the show yeah let's do it let's do some weeding.

Letters. The classic one was letters, oh letters. We love you, some letters. They're only a day away. They're here right now. We're going to do letters. You know it's hot because the dog is out. Yeah, out like a light.

What do you say there? It's neither here nor now. What do you say? I say... Well, it's not actually you, is it? No, that's me. The singing? I think I say... No, someone else sings it. No do you say there? It's neither here nor now. What do you say? I say... Well, it's not actually you, is it? No, that's me. The singing? I think I say...

No, someone else sings it. No, at the end. That's me. Is it? I say... Oh, yeah, no, I say at the end, they're only a day away. Nah, they're here now.

We're going to do letters. But it's someone else. Okay, all right. Let's go to the tape. Let's go to the tape. But it's someone else singing the other part. So it is someone else singing. What do you say at the very end?

I think I say... What do you mean at the very end? I think I say... What do you mean you think you say? I don't listen. I think I say, neither here nor now we're going to do letters. Oh, neither here nor now. Yeah, because I thought you said neither here nor now. This is very philosophical.

Neither here nor now. Look, we don't have to go back to the tape. Okay. I'll put it in twice. Thank you. Bye. Okay, if you want to reach the show, hashtag WeeklyPlanetPod on Twitter,

or you can reach the show through weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com, and Mason will read maybe some of your emails. I'll read an email. Here's one from Mike Gimagno. Okay. Hey, James and Mason. Mike Gimagno, I love that. Very good.

Very good. Senor Gimagno. Hey, James and Mason, and Charlie. Wow. That's right. How did he know? He knows. He must be your number five type.

I'm a wizard and I may have to have back surgery with a possible recovery time of four months, probably because of the wizarding. Yeah. I'm curious what you two, three, would do if you had... This guy's way out of the curve. If you had that much... It's funny that he says two, then three.

I mean, if he knew I was here, just go straight to the three. You were self-correcting. Well, he probably assumes that I'm just going to sit in a chair and not do anything if you had that much time on your

hands what would you do he says I'm thinking of maybe doing a shot by shot remake of the road warrior with my two dogs

that sounds great working with children and animals though isn't that a difficult task well professionally but if he's just in recovery

it's a passion project I'm thinking professional big budget how do you remake with just two animals are they going to be playing the extras as well professionally, but if he's just, you know, in recovery, I think it's fine. It's a passion project. I'm thinking professional, big budget. That's the way mine might work. How do you remake with just two animals? Are they going to be playing the extras as well?

With different hats on? I'm just trying to think of what the opening scene is. It's Max out running those bikers and then he finds a tanker and he's shot in the leg. So how do you do that

with a dog? I think maybe because he's American, I think maybe he, oh no, he would be thinking of Maddox too. He'd be talking about

the road warrior. Yeah. Yeah, okay, right. No, good luck to you. Yeah, good luck to you, man think maybe he... Oh, no, he would be thinking of Mad Max 2. He'd be talking about the Red Warrior. Yeah. Okay, right. Good luck to you. Good luck to you, mate. Is he going to dub all the voices? I think he should... Oh, yeah.

I think he should remake the... Three days ago, I saw a trucking at all, that tanker. You want to get out of here? Talk to me. If you could use that... Leave the fuel! Unleash the dogs of war! They are dogs too There you go

That's it I would have remade The first one Because then you could Just do it in the suburbs You could do it with Like three people One dog is Max

One dog is Goose Just You know That'd be easy You could probably get Steve Bisley to do it He'd definitely do it No Steve Bisley's busy

Doing He's very Bisley Oh he's working with Brian Johnson Not the director I just saw that I literally just saw that Yeah Bisley's busy doing... He's very Bisley. Oh, he's working with Brian Johnson, not the director. I just saw that. I literally just saw that, yeah. Sorry, he's busy. He's Bisley.

Sorry? You mean Bisley. Yeah. I don't know what I'd do if I had four months off. I'd probably just keep doing this because my job means that I can do this. Yeah. Well, I have... I've always said that I have...

Is he in traction or anything for months off? It doesn't say. It doesn't say. I guess if he's running around filming his dogs, can yeah i guess you can you should start a podcast exactly a movie comic book and video game podcast yes what is dogs i don't know about that no i say you should enough room in the market yeah no this is don't worry about it um i i always say that i have like a leg break pile of assorted media. If I broke both my legs and I had nothing to do, I would go through all the stuff that I always say that I'm going to get through,

but I never have. So I guess I'd start with that. But then I think I would, realistically, I would tire of that very quickly, I think. I'd learn another language, learn a stock market, just improve myself as a human being. Sure. I'd probably just lie down. Get your booze on. Get your booze on.

Get my booze on. Yeah. I honestly don't. I probably read more books because I like reading books and I don't read enough books. And I'm an intellectual. So that's... I'm sort of stuck between the world of like, I like to read... Are you guys both boy George?

Because it seems you're in the bloody culture club right now. I wouldn't do anything. Do you get audio books? I do. I switch back and forth. Do you find them hard to concentrate? Depends on the voice. Yeah. I wouldn't do anything do you get audio books? I do I switch back and forth do you find them hard to concentrate? depends on the voice yeah

I'm listening to Eckhart Tolle right now and he's got such I think he's Swedish or something and he speaks in a monotone and like I can't get five minutes through without falling asleep yeah boo

boo Eckhart Tolle what do you know? power of now power of snooze the idea that's the problem the idea what do you know power of now power of snooze the idea that's the problem because the idea of an audiobook

is it's supposed to be like when you're too busy when you can't focus on reading and you're doing something else get the audiobook but in a lot of cases it's just you have to set

a lot of time with audiobooks I have to set aside time and just sit there I'll do like chores and a walk but some will work but the thing about reading a book too is like I'll do like chores and a walk but some will work and some don't yeah definitely

the thing about reading a book too is like I often read a page and then re-read and go I've got to go back I just was I was somewhere else and so it's much easier with an audio book

to not listen to that person yammering in your ear what if you did both you could like read along like you did as a kid yeah you could race Eckhart Tolle to the end

hurry up yeah I already know I already know I already got material things you son of a bitch That's a good idea. He could race Eckhart Tolle to the end. Hurry up. Yeah. I already know. I already know what material things you son of a bitch. What do you guys think about this tweet?

Hashtag Weekly Planet Pod. It's from Duncan Performer. Have you guys, three of us, ever thought of a spin-off podcast where you rewrite bad movies? I think I'd be bad at that. Isn't that already,

it sounds like that would already be I'm sure that's multiple podcasts already it sounds like that would already that's multiple podcasts already i know sans pants had one i think i think every concept has been done as a podcast especially relating to films except for one about finding the man who wrote the ivan drago fanfic that was the last idea you heard of that one yeah incredible um i don't know does that sound like something i don't know i often feel like that like i don't know like i always feel bad about like just completely deconstructing a terrible thing like i feel bad about kicking it when it's down in a lot of cases like for me it would have to be it'd have

to be just huge blockbusters and then it's you know it's it's i think it's fun when you're in a room with your friends to make fun of something bad but then to like turn into a podcast and rewrite it suddenly it's just i don't know i don't i don't think it's the same yeah it's a bit on the nose yeah and because you write you write stuff as well obviously yeah yeah do you think that'd be harder for you now that because you create stuff it's like i know how hard it is to write no i mean like you know you know i think i think maybe i wouldn't want to record my thoughts yeah right yeah on stuff because yeah because it'd have to be irredeemably bad and it would also have to be from a creator that i don't like who's like very smug about it so i used to work in a venn diagram's quite small when i worked in a video store my

mates and i a regular thing that we would scale the shelves, pick the worst cover we could find and then go home and watch it. Yes. I mean, that's like junk food cinema or any of those kind of, how did this get made? Yeah, right. I think that's fun to talk about that,

but to actually rewrite it seems like work. I'm fairly confident that my version wouldn't be better. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Okay. Because it would, you'd remove, what would happen I think also is you would

remove some of the flaws and then discover why they were in there in the first place you'd be like oh well okay well if i take out this scene and i then i have to put in this scene but then the rest of the movie doesn't work oh i see why they yeah they put in the dump scene because otherwise the rest of you know what might be more interesting is to find those movies and then find those like those b-grade movies or those low budget films and actually pay to get a director's commentary and find out why the filming that would be interesting 100 i think to hear well what was the budget restrictions why was that you know creature made of rubber you know how come that actress's hair changed between scenes i mean you do that

with big budget films as well fantastic four yeah that's 100 yeah but yeah i mean that's often that's in a lot of cases with movies, that's the most interesting, you know, the disaster artist, you know, just has had a decade long career of, you know, just explaining why that movie was so terrible and how it turned into what it did. So that's a great idea.

Copyright Planet Broadcasting. How about a podcast where we critique the podcast with a critique movie? Yeah, I love it. Well, that's ours. How about a podcast where we critique the podcast with a critique movie? Yes. Yeah, I love it. It's not going to be called How Did This Get Made, but it's going to be called Why Are You So Mean? Come on, they were just trying their best, all right?

Come on, guys. This is from Andrew Harding. Dear James and Maiso and Charlie, you two talked, three talked about watching theune movie uh to prepare you for next year's adaptation while the lynch version is worth seeing for our strangers is a sci-fi channel miniseries is a better adaptation although a worse budget hashtag wimpy planet pod are you guys familiar with this no uh i'm worried but i haven't seen it i'm reluctant to watch any or read any dune stuff because i want to see this new version because i love that director who's

the director uh the blade oh blade runner guy love that director who's the director the Blade Runner oh Blade Runner guy is that what he's going to do now just take sort of credible properties and just remake them and remake them as bombs yeah

I don't know what happened guys I don't know I mean this isn't my fault I mean yeah I mean bombs that are great I should just clarify did you like Blade Runner 24 yeah I loved it

yeah so I don't know I don't would you guys do you guys want to go back and watch Dune stuff I don't know anything about't would you guys do you guys want to go back and watch a Dune stuff I don't know anything about Dune

I just I just have vague memories of being a kid and seeing that guy boils all over his face yes and it's like it was enough to put me off

yeah right and it's like Baron Boyle face yeah and it's sting and leather undies that's what I that's my impression of it yeah

so apparently though I've heard this before like this sci-fi channel show is quite good do you reckon it would even hold up going back to when see I also don't trust this before, like this sci-fi channel show is quite good. Do you reckon it would even hold up going back to an early 2000s? See, I also don't trust the judgment of the average sci-fi channel viewer as well.

Wow. I don't know. Take that Andrew Harding. That's right, Andrew Harding. When did it come out, the sci-fi? Early 2000s. I think it was 2001. Who was in it?

Good question. I looked it up the other day. Please be Lorenzo Lamas. I will tell you. Sam Please be Lorenzo Lamas. I will tell you. Sam Jones, Lorenzo Lamas, and Mark Jacko Jackson. What a bloody team. Playing Joppo. It's me, Juno.

Wait a minute. I don't recognize any of the face. Oh, no. Okay. William Hurt. Oh. Alec Newman. Nope.

James Watson. Those are just names I don't know from here on. So William Hurt, that was a good guess. Yeah, that's a good guess. Look, it was probably mean to say that I don't trust the judgment of the average sci-fi channel viewer. But I don't know. Oh, look at him walking it back. I'm walking it back.

What a groveling Jason Reitman here. That's right. You need to apologize. Walking it back. No, I don't know. I just think that the quality of sci-fi channel stuff is so scattershot no i don't know i just think that the the the quality of sci-fi channel stuff is so scattershot yeah that i don't know if i'd i'd probably give i'd give it an episode if it was on netflix or name some other sci-fi channel shows that i might have

heard of uh they all like cheap time travel thing yeah a lot of that isn't it feels like well i don't know because maybe i'm out of the loop but it feels like whenever I think of sci-fi channel, I think of like your Farscapes or your Cleopatra 2525 or... Yeah, right. I don't know, maybe... The Librarian with Noel Wiley. Yeah, with Noel Wiley. Oh, man, they made a lot of those, didn't they?

Yep. And they're all good. I haven't seen them. Winona Earp, they did that recently. Oh, I've seen some episodes. See, I've seen some episodes of Winona Earp, but again, it's a series... I'm always looking for a series that I can watch while I'm doing other things,

and that became my series for a while of a show that I'd watch, and you could just walk out of the room. What other things are you doing? Ironing. Right. Really? Tidying. Do you iron?

Tai Chi. Regularly. You do have a lot of shirts. I do have a lot of shirts. Stack in a dishwasher, you know? Tai Chi? Tai Chi. Yeah.

Yeah. Feng Shui. Trying to get the curtain to go up because it's one of those ones that click in and it takes a while to find the right angle I hate those things

the stick ones all my curtains are that stick ones yeah they suck why not just make it fastened why don't they make it detachable

I have a little question you want a stick you want a stick curtain show you know what I mean just when you can just you're adjusting your curtains and you want to do that

and the Winona Earp was that for me you know and the characters are pretty charming I guess I don't know is she related to Wyatt Scraggle

she's in the she's in the family she's the last descendant got a magic gun she's got his gun Peacemaker and she has to she has to

re-kill all the men he killed back in the day because they're all back as like demons that sounds interesting to me yeah it does sound. And like Supernatural.

Yeah. Is that still going, this show? Yes. Probably. It's flying, mate. My God. Those guys are going to be like ghosts themselves. Yeah.

They'll go for so long, they'll be investigating themselves. Jeffrey Dean Morgan recently came back to do an episode. He was their dad in the early seasons. Yeah, there you go. Comedian. How about that? How about that how about that that's the show everybody

I think Mason wrap it up thanks everybody Charlie you're a fan of this show why don't you no I didn't want to make you talk imagine if I was about to do the intro

we talk about comic books and video games and so I can remember I can just I can just imagine you just finishing the show off flawlessly

as I as I stare at you mouth and gape, and then I just pack up my little things and put my shoes on and I walk out. I guess Charlie's the new Nick now. Yeah, that's right. Well, thanks, everybody, for listening. Charlie, thank you so much for being on the show.

Thank you for having me. Check out the web series. Lessons for Life. Lessons for Life with Alan Mercedes. There'll be a link below, I believe. There will be a link. Absolutely. Along with Tofop.

Or go to Tofop TV, whether you've got live Q&As, you've got all sorts of good stuff. Thank you. Thank you. Check that out. Just search for Tofop TV. What else have you got coming up on the pipeline? Is that annoying when you've just done a thing?

Yeah. And then people... What's next? I often see that when they're interviewing, you know, people that they've just... They've literally just released a movie or something and the interviewer's like, so what's next for you? And you're like, I've just done this thing. Yeah, I've just done've literally just released a movie or something and the interview is like so what's next for you and you're like i've just done this thing yeah i've just done this i mean to be honest like it literally was it was hot off the press like

a week ago so i haven't actually thought i mean this this time of the year for actors is busy because it's when they're casting all the parts and stuff so in the midst of that i did a tape yesterday i'll be going for another one on Wednesday so I'm just auditioning I'm unemployed essentially sure is what I am looking for work

it's the actor's version of looking for work if you're out there and you receive a Charlie Clawson tape give it a watch that's what I'm saying anyway thanks everybody for listening

subscribing nice review telling a friend Charlie if you could tell some people about the podcast yeah I'll tell someone I'm seeing Will tell Will

we're going to the M&M concert I'll tell someone i'll see i'm seeing will tell will okay cool yeah we're going to the m&m concert i'll yell it out at marshall yeah i'm like i know you miss like the punisher well there's a show that's all about comic books

and stuff like that oh that'd be good we don't do that he brings me on stage we don't talk about your beard i'll cut that out yeah nice uh thanks for giving

us a nice review uh thanks for bloody just just being there for us you know yeah we appreciate it. If you'd like to support the show in a less of a moral way and more of a financial way,

you can go to patreon.com slash MrSundayMovies if you want to chuck in a buck. We would appreciate that. Absolutely, we would. Any little amount of money you could spare. Anything else? You've been working on that?

Well, you personally haven't been working on that. No. The Backyard Studio. I've paid people to do it I'm looking at it I can verify as a third party it is happening

there's a wall there's cables being laid in there's so much garbage there could be dead bodies in there it kind of looks like

where Dexter would take people that's the plan it's going to be a multi-purpose space very soundproof let me tell you wipe clean walls

it's going to be great also you can go to the Amazon affiliate link in our episode description if you want to click through there. If you want to buy... Quick plug something, Charlie. What have you got on DVD? Dude, a monocle.

If you want to buy a monocle. Exactly. That's right. No? It's Amazon. They have everything. I'll check if they've got it. You keep going and I'll check it.

Or just buy what you're going to buy on Amazon and we'll get a little kickback somehow. Let's do it. Let's see we've got some t-shirts on tpublic.com grab yourself a Weekly Planet tee I love seeing them out in the wild me too

a friend of mine was saying that they saw somebody in our Mr. Coyier limited edition Weekly Planet shirt in real life ah there's not many of them blew my bloody mind

tell you what there's a lot of steampunk monocle shit here that's just not a traditional monocle. One's like a set of glasses, but just one of the lenses is popped out. So it's just like... It's glasses that are broken?

Can you search top hat with goggles on it? Yes, please. I will. Sorry. So you can't buy monocle anymore? Not on Amazon. But they've got like steampunk goggles where you can flip down a thing,

where you can flip down a different thing to look through. That's a bifocal, I believe. It's ridiculous. Yeah, but it's, yeah, so it's, look at this shit. Oh, that's dumb. Amazon, you've let us down.

You've let us down. The one, I picked the one thing that's not available on Amazon. It was a bloody callback and everything. It would have been perfect.

Quick, quick, look up shoes on your knees. Yeah. Look up knee shoes. There is, that's with goggles. Thank you there is hats with goggles thank you finally look thank you

to the Brute and the Basilisk and Rackham for all our musical themes that dog is dead I'm pretty sure we've got a dead dog it's not breathing oh no she's alive

she's back she's doing great there we go you're doing great Ollie good dog that's everything I think yeah we'll see you guys next week

for a different Charlie bye you won't see me next week no Charlie you know what you probably will you are back again next week

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