The Weekly Planet - 28 Captain America: The Winter Soldier - Best Or Worst Movie Ever

Episode Date: April 6, 2014

This week we break down Marvel's latest cinematic offering, Captain America: The Winter Soldier. PLUS! Ninja Turtle news, Marvels future plans, Fantastic Four and more.Spoilers for The Winter Soldier are also clearly outlined, so no stress. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Official podcast of ComicBookMovie.com My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday With me as always is my co-host, Nick Mason! Hey buddy! What's happening? Nothing! Bad news! Oh!

We're cancelled! Oh! April Fool's! Woah! What a rollercoaster of emotions! I tell you what! Yeah! How Oh. April Fool's. Whoa. What a rollercoaster of emotions. I tell you what. Yeah. How was your April Fool's?

Nothing happened. Because we're adults, remember? But did you go to a website and there was something slightly different and you went, oh, that's a little bit annoying? No, I just stayed off the internet for like... In fact, I got up after midday, so, you know. You missed everything. I missed everything, yeah.

Oh, it's the worst time of the year for the internet. It really is, yeah. The bloody April Fools, yeah. Because your website's either they do some hilarious joke, which is, for some reason, some people still fall for, but most people are like, this is clearly a fake thing. It's like Google's invented a vacuum. It's Google vacuum.

You can vacuum around your house while you're on Google. That's exactly it. And people are like, I don't know if I'd buy that product. I mean, I like their search engine, but come on, this is ridiculous. And then you get other websites

who are like, oh, we're sick of April Fools. We're sick of it on the internet. It's so uncool. So you get those two sides of it. I think we fall into that camp though, don't we? And it's also the worst time

of year to die. Or to actually have any kind of... Like if you're getting engaged or something like that, just leave it. Leave it for a day. It's really inconvenient. That's it. Exactly. Yeah. Well, let's get into it then. We've had our April Fool's fun for this year. Oh, so good.

Mason, news for this week. Ninja Turtles news. I'm ready. Get this right. I'm ready. Two of, news for this week. Ninja Turtles news. I'm ready. Get this right. I'm ready. Two of the actors have been replaced in Ninja Turtles. The people under the Ninja Turtle suits? Well, that'll stay.

All the mo-cap stuff. The guy who played Splinter, which is... Do you remember the little guy from Seinfeld, Kramer's friend? Yes. He was Splinter. Okay. He's no longer the voice of Splinter. And the guy who played Leonardo, who I don't know his name, but he's like,

can you imagine the most generic blonde guy that you've ever seen? Yes, I can, yeah. That's him. Okay, great. So, yeah, basically... Two of the voice actors. Two of the voice actors. So, Splinter is now voiced from the guy from Monk.

Tony Shalhoub? Yeah. Okay. And the other one, Leonardo, was voiced by none other than your favourite, Johnny Knoxville. That's an interesting choice. This isn't an April Fool's. Okay, I was going to say. Because I'm on edge right now.

I'm going to be paranoid through this whole episode that everything you say is one of your wacky April Fool's scenarios that you've been saving up all year. So, yeah, what do you think of that? That's alright, I guess. I mean, you know why people will be up in arms about that? Why? Because Johnny Knoxville, crazy daredevil. Leonardo, not a crazy daredevil. That's true.

It'd be like he... Johnny Knoxville's either got to be Raphael, cool but rude, or Michelangelo, party dude. That's right. I think that's exactly what people are saying. Also, Johnny Knoxville... Or Splinter, alcoholic rat. Do you watch Monk? Monk? No, is it still on? It can't still be on. Okay, I don't think it's exactly what people are saying. Also, Johnny Knox... Or Splinter, alcoholic rat. Do you watch Monk? Monk?

No, is it still on? It can't still be on. I don't think it's still on. I don't think it's still on. It's one of those shows where the main person in it has a severe mental kind of barrier and, you know, verging on disability, but they craft a whole show around it. Yes. There's a lot of those, if you don't say.

I have, yes. So, yeah, no, I've never really watched it. So, yeah, I mean, I guess it's okay. I'm not really fussed to be honest. Well, we didn't, it's not like we've heard some incredible voice

acting from whoever it is. That's right. And now we've had that taken away from us. It doesn't matter, they're probably all

fine. That's exactly it. And you know, this isn't uncommon for it to happen either. I think they replaced the guy who's one of the guys in Two and a Half Men. He was originally one of the voice of the planes in the movie

Planes. Oh yeah. So that's a classic example. That is a classic example. I think the most famous one is the guy who played Darth Vader, David Prowse. Yep. He voiced Darth Vader when they were filming it. Thinking he was going to be the voice on film. Which is odd because you can barely, like I've seen a bit of that raw footage, Mason. And it's just him going... You barely understand him and he's not threatening in any way. And he's not an actor, that guy. He's like a stuntman.

He sounds like he's trapped in a cupboard. Yes, exactly. And then he was replaced with James Earl Jones. But he didn't find that out until he saw the movie. Wow, okay. And he was not happy. He was probably doing a bit to, to his family or his friends, like, look, you can't see me under this costume, but you just wait.

You'll hear that beautiful David Prowse voice. It's such a nuanced performance. Yeah. So, yeah. I went... Do you know he doesn't get any... Apparently, he has got no money for Return of the Jedi. He signed something which means he gets a certain amount of the profits.

But he gets a letter every year that says something like... We didn't make any profits. We didn't make any profits. Yeah, I heard that. Which is ridiculous. It made like $500 million at the time. Right, right. But I think it was some loophole where it was like the gross profits or something like that.

So they're like, well, if we include marketing and blah, blah, blah and all this, we never made a profit. So I guess every year they put $500 million into the advertising budget for Return of the Jedi, Blu-rays or something like that. So nobody makes any money. Yeah, I've heard that. That guy has been screwed by star wars for like 30 years you know george lucas didn't trust him with the darth vader luke's father secret yeah so mark hamill knew at the time george lucas pulled him aside he's like hey listen up darth vader's your father didn't tell david prowls again didn't find out till he saw the movie well

i think if you know that's that i think that is a wise move on Lucas' part. I agree. Because if you haven't told... Look, if you started on a bed of lies and you haven't told the guy that he's not going to be the voice and then he gets an unpleasant surprise when he brings everyone he knows to the cinema,

he's probably going to spill any secrets you give him. So it's probably best not to give him any. That's exactly right because that's what I'd do and there was another thing I think David Prowse also leaked something in relation to Return of the Jedi before it came out

there's like this weird rivalry between him and Lucas and I remember before the new prequels came out it's a real David Goliath situation it feels like about 20 minutes ago we started talking about Ninja Turtles so it doesn't it sure does

but yeah just before the new I think it was the last time it came out Revenge of the Sith came out he's like well obviously they're going to get me back because they got Chewbacca back. Right right. And people are going to be outraged if I don't get good old David Prowse in the suit. It's like well to be honest David Prowse good on

you for all your achievements in cinema and whatever. I mean I don't know what your voice sounds like but you know good on you. But they could literally get anybody for that. Correct. And they ended up just using Hayden Christensen

in the Darth Vader suit. Because he's the same height. Well, no, he's actually a bit shorter. I think they healed him up. Oh, okay, right. Yeah, because you know Vader's got his legs chopped off

so they give him extra long legs. Oh, yeah, nice. That's exactly it. Nice. Nice. So, yeah, there you go. Also, they should just

swap out Chewbacca, the guy in the Chewbacca suit. Yeah, they could do that yeah but then he'll stop releasing all those secret onset photos from the 70s or whatever he has oh yeah that archive of that's true photos yeah i mean good on peter mayhew already and everything but peter mayhew cannot run or barely walk now oh he's like super tall and he's all like kind of his legs are all fucked up. But yeah, sad state of affairs. Well, that's the most people anyone's talked about David Prowse in several years, so.

You're welcome, Prowse. Anyway, Ninja Turtles. Yeah, so there you go. They've replaced those guys, I guess. Great, or not great. I'm indifferent. I'm also indifferent. Good.

Dr. Doom Fantastic Four news, Mason. They've found their Dr. Doom. Is it a lady this time? Well. Lady Doom Fantastic Four news, Mason. Uh-huh. They've found their Doctor Doom. Is it a lady this time? Well. Lady Doom. No, there's no... The Doomette. It's no Doomettes.

That was a rumour at one point. Doomalina. That rumour got way out of hand, right? Yeah. With the Lady Doctor Doom. Did you ever think for a second that was going to be the case? Uh, yeah. I could see that.

Oh, really? Okay. And again, I'll be fine because cin, it's a Z-grade franchise. Yeah, exactly. The guy that they've got is a guy named Toby Kebbell. Are you familiar with Toby Kebbell? Not at all. He's in, I've got a picture of him for you.

He's a country music singer. He is, yes. Great. He's in an episode of Black Mirror. You know the episode of Black Mirror where they get the chip in their head that records everything that they see? I remember that one, yes. Yeah, that guy. He's a great,

and I think he was in Rock and Roller, which is a... We've had some previous Black Mirror casting news from, that's gone to Hollywood. You know it? Yeah.

You recognise this guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah. So yeah, he's, I think he's 31 or 32. He's also in a British TV show called The Street, which is a really good kind of British drama.

Well, he was in that. That show isn't on anymore. Or it is, I don't know. But I think it's a great choice. I think he's a really good actor. And I think he's going to bring something to that role. That being said, they're going to just David Prowse him. Exactly, yeah.

It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It's interesting when a British actor is cast I think in a Hollywood film yeah because you like if you see someone on British TV they're always very

quite they're always very British yep like they're not they're not Hollywood perfect you know they've got scraggly facial hair and kind of

they're pallid and pale and they've got bags under their eyes and etc etc are you talking Ricky Gervais syndrome yes I'm talking exactly that

but they must you know have to see them and go okay well if we they're good actors so we'll have to just fix all of that and they'll look

incredible and they do that's a good eye American casting directors you know who's a really good example of that Ewan McGregor

not that he was ever a bad looking bloke but he was kind of a scraggly kind of sickly looking dude maybe that's just my memory of him

from Trainspotting but even other stuff he was in around then and nowly, kind of sickly looking dude. Maybe that's just my memory of him from Trainspotting. But even other stuff he was in around then. And now he's like super handsome, quiffed hair, great guy. Yeah. Yeah. So there you go. Also, more Doctor Doom news. Yes.

It's rumoured. Are you a fan of the Doom... He's attacking New York right now. Are you a fan of the Doom Bots? Yeah, I love a Doom Bot. Well, rumours of Doom Bots, Mason. I bought one at a garage sale the other day.

Cleans my house. Occasionally destroys my house. Ah! Poor programming. Yes. Yes. So, yeah, it might be Doom Bots

in this upcoming film. I think that's courtesy of Nerdist website or something. You know Nerdist. I'm aware of it. They do a bunch of shit. Sure. Yeah.

So, there you go. Doom Bots. For those not in the know, the Doom Bots are like the Iron Legion, I guess. They're like Doctor Doom's Iron Legion he's got a whole bunch of copies of himself

yeah and they all they all think that they are Doctor Doom oh yeah that's true there is difference well they think they're Doctor Doom until they're in the

presence of the actual Doctor Doom and they're like oh shit oh god oh sorry oh this is so awkward my whole identity

oh how embarrassing it's embarrassing for me so yeah like wait a sec you programmed this it's embarrassing for me. So yeah. Wait a sec, you programmed this. It's embarrassing for you. It's real rude.

So yeah, there you go. Any thoughts on that before we move on? Nah, it's fine. Yeah, you're right. Yeah. You've said the right thing there. It's fine. Sure is.

There's a new Captain America suit though, Mason. Oh, for Avengers 2. Yeah, there's been a whole lot of set photos leaking all week. Yep. All over the place. An all week leak. That's right. A lot of them I'm not really interested in. I'm like, okay, there's Black Widow stunt double on a motorcycle. Blah, blah, blah. Sure. Who cares? But you see the new Captain America

outfit and I think it looks pretty cool. Bellissimo. You like it? Big fan. Because I know one of the big problems you have with Winter Soldier, your least favourite Marvel movie, is that... Steady. Is that the suit isn't very comic book appropriate for the Captain America. For that particular style of Captain America.

Are you talking... What, are you talking Winter Soldier? Yeah, you know in the Winter Soldier he's got the all kind of blue suit. The shield suit. Yeah, yeah. No, I like that. Oh, you do like it? Yes. Didn You know the Winter Soldier Has got the all Kind of blue suit The shield suit Yeah yeah No I like that Oh you do like it Yes

Didn't you say you didn't like it? No Nah I'm confused You're so Look I have many opinions On costumes Sure But this one seems like

A mix between that And the World War 2 era suit Yeah it looks real good Yeah I'm really happy with it I think they've finally Found that balance That they need In a kind of modern day

Captain America suit Because they certainly Didn't strike it in the Avengers. Correct. Thank you. That's for sure. Yeah. Thank you.

So yeah. Check those out online. Comicbookmovie.com Mason. If you would like to see those. Which you have. That's the official website of this podcast. Correct. For now.

Oh. I think we'd be naive to assume that they'd let us just keep doing this. Right. Exactly. All right. Well, there is keep doing this. Right, exactly. All right. Well, there is some other Marvel news though, Mason. We're going to get an email that's like, April Fool's get cancelled. P.S. It's not April 1st anymore.

You actually are cancelled. Kevin Feige has talked about the future of Marvel and how they've got it mapped out. Up to 2028. Up to 2028. Up to 2028. What do you think of that? Way too far in advance. I agree. It is very far in advance,

but I think it's good to have a rough idea where you're going. I mean, these things are subject to change, but you can now work stuff in now which comes into play later. I mean, as long as it's not choked down and self-referential and it kind of bogs in on itself or whatever, I think it's fine. I think it's good to have an overall outline. I mean, by then we'll have like eight different versions of Batman and, you know, or whatever.

But no, I think it's good to think. Maybe it is too far ahead, but it's nice that they're putting some thought into it. Maybe they're sort of following the pathway of like a Harry Potter film. Where they can get some like kid actors or whatever. Yeah. And have them grow into whatever role. Sure. I think that could be interesting.

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. In 2028, Robert Downey Jr. will be 63 years old. Great. So, yeah. There'll be a new Iron Man by then. Oh, no doubt. They've talked about before how they're doing it like a James Bond kind of thing where they

can just cycle somebody out. Yeah, yeah. Which they've been known to do in the past. But at the same time, I reckon Robert Downey Jr. will look great at 63. Absolutely. If you said he was 63 now, I'd be like, oh yeah. Wait. I don't know what that means.

But I think he'll look good as a 63-year-old. Sure. How good does bloody Harrison Ford look at 63? He probably looks great. He looks alright. How old is he now? He's like 70-something? Yeah, he's 72 or something like that.

Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. Something like that. Yeah, sure. Look, I'm not against it by any stretch, but i think they also got to look at look at it from the perspective of are the kids going to come out to see a 63 year old iron man yeah true you know what i mean i'll get whoever's young and cool then i can't think of who's a kid actor who everyone loves macaulay culkin that reference is still fresh, right? So fresh.

Okay, good. So fresh. So yeah, there you go. I think that's very exciting. Or not exciting. Yeah. Well, although, like comic book wise, because that's 14 years. Yeah.

Comic book wise, like everything in the Marvel Universe has happened in the last, you know how there's a sliding time scale for comic books? Everything in the Marvel Universe has basically happened in the last 10 years. Yeah. So it's weird that they've widened that out even further. Well, that's true. But you know what else

there is to it? Over the next 14 years, there will be a lot of comic book stories written that they'll want to incorporate into these movies. So this will be subject to change based on that.

Yeah, yeah. These movies aren't going to follow the last however many years. Because a lot of the films are basically it's the last 10 years of comic books that have been written in real time. Roughly.

They borrow from every era or whatever. But there's going to be a lot of stories which will no doubt influence these movies. We've got a whole lot of comic books that we haven't even read yet, Mason, that we'll probably think are okay. Sure. So make that a movie. Something we think is okay-ish. Yeah. That's it. So, you know. So make that a movie. Yeah. Something we think is okay-ish. Yeah. That's it.

So, yeah. Oh, also, Kevin Feige. Also, it was mentioned that he was having a discussion with James Gunn about the upcoming Guides of the Galaxy movie. And they're talking about the inclusion of a villain that they're going to put in, which they didn't name. But they're having an argument. James Gunn was like, we're going to put...

Is it Taserface? It's Taserface, yes. Okay, good. No, it's... This villain is in a throne and it's got rockets on the bottom, so it's a flying throne. And Kevin Feige's like, just put like gravity discs. It doesn't have to be rockets or whatever. Right, right, right.

What villain do you think it is who would have a big rocket throne? Well, rockets, right? I'd like to think it's like a 21st century version of the wishing chair the classic Eden Blight and Tale I mean people are assuming

Thanos I'd imagine he's the kind of guy that would have a rocket throne yeah yeah totally he'd have a throne I'm trying to think

of a character see I would like Metron from the DC universe one of the new gods he's got a rocket thrown. They get him in. Yeah, I'm trying to think of the Marvel version of him as...

I'm going to think on it, and I'll just shout it out during the episode if I think of one. I've got one for you. Okay, I'm ready. I think it is Thanos. Yeah. But what about M.O.D.O.K.? It's not really a throne he's in. He's in a kind of...

In Guardians of the Galaxy. Yeah, why not? He's very Earth-based. He is very Earth-based, but he looks incredibly weird. And I think it would make more sense to say he's got earth-based he's very earth-based but he looks incredibly weird and i think it'd be oh it'd make more sense to say he's got a space influence than this horrible monster whatever what happened to that guy what's his deal he's a he's an aim experiment okay and he's got a lady friend called modem i know that yeah i remember first seeing him in the Iron Man 90s TV show and being like, what the fuck is this?

Yeah. Like this horrible monster. I think that's part of his strategic, you know, that's part of his battle strategies. He just rolls up and goes, what the fuck? Yeah. Yeah. Okay, fair enough.

I also thought it could be C-3PO from Return of the Jedi when he flies around in a chair. Yeah, yeah, cool, yeah. Could be R2-D2 with his little jets. Oh, yeah! Yeah, yeah, yeah. Man, we're good at this, aren't we? It could be a villain from a James Bond film.

Yeah. And James Bond has pulled the ejector seat on the car, and it's ejected the bad guy from the car, and he's just shot into space, and he's been flying through space forever! And now he's a Marvel villain! He's achieved immortality I hope that's how he explains his origin as well

he's like well I was in a car then I was shot into space and now I'm a Marvel villain I would love that yeah see

there you go alright Mason that's pretty much the news for this week there might be more news though because as you know

because you're here right now we're recording this on a Saturday I don't like to record on a Saturday but you backed more news though because as you know because you're here right now we're recording this on a Saturday. Oh yeah. I don't like to record on a Saturday but you backed me into a corner.

I did, yeah. Because you know I feel it's too far away but at the same time who cares, you know. Because it's technically still Friday in the US. Oh yeah, it is too.

News could be happening right now. We'll miss out on news we'll look like right idiots. What if something We can't have that, can we? Yeah, exactly.

What if something something fantastic for something. Oh my god. What if Doctor Doom becomes a lady again you know ms doom oh geez but louise well mason i just want to say a quick thank you to some people okay i'm our band camp website is it me no oh the i mean thanks i guess but i made you this mug oh yeah you're a fucking mug. How about that? Sorry, I appreciate it.

No, it's all right. A few people have donated to our band camp, the Captain America commentary track we did. Yeah, great. Theweekoftheplanet.bandcamp.com Benjamin Griffith. Griffith. Griffith. Is it Griffiths, but you can't pronounce the S?

Are you okay? There's no S. There's an S on the end. Sam McDonald, Nicholas M Griffiths, but you can't pronounce the S? Are you okay? There's no S. There's an S on the end. Sam McDonald, Nicholas M., William B., and Jeffrey C., they all donated money, which we really appreciate. Anywhere between $1 and $5, those guys pitched in. So guys, really appreciate it. And you know what?

I feel bad because... You spent it all on drugs. I spent it all on drugs. But not only that, I feel like we could have done better. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, absolutely we could have. So the next one, the Amazing Spider-Man one, I've got some could have done better. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, absolutely. We could have, yeah. So the next one, the Amazing Spider-Man one, I've got some emails from people with some

hints and tips. We're going to go all out on that. We're going to go all out. It's going to be the best thing on the internet. And we're going to make it so that you can listen to it without even having the Spider-Man film playing in front of you. That's a really good idea. We're going to nail it.

Because that's how Kevin Smith does it on Fat Man and Batman. And that's how I want to do it. You could be going for a jog. That's right. You could be doing another thing. Yeah. Shopping at the supermarket. Having a grand old time.

You know? Yucking it up. Fist fighting with somebody on top of a train. You know? Sword fighting with somebody on top of a train. That's right. Yeah, yeah. All sorts of stuff.

Probably, that's... Forget it. I was going to talk about train surfing and the perils of train surfing. But I'm not going to get into it. No. People don't train surf anymore, I think. Occasionally I see it on the paper. It's like,

look at these local hoodlums train surfing. Danger to society and themselves. Which I guess it is. But if someone's to climb on a train and fall off and kill themselves, it's not my loss. Yeah, exactly. And think about it.

It's real cool. Like smoking. Anyway, Kevin Ely, though, he donated us $40. That's amazing. It's too much money. Yes. I couldn't believe it. I emailed him and I said, is this a mistake?

If it's a mistake, I'm happy to refund you. I'm glad he said no, because I wouldn't even know how to do that. Yeah, exactly. But I would have worked it out. So I really, really appreciate that. That's incredible. Listen, we couldn't figure out how to refund you, so we bought you $40 worth of stamps

and we've mailed them to you. You can use those. So yeah, thank you, Kevin. Really appreciate it. That's incredible. He said the reason he wanted to do it is because it pays for a couple of months of the show. And he wants to trap you in the windowless box that we are currently in.

Great, thank you. So, yeah. Thanks, pal. Yeah, appreciate it. But he also was a bit confused about the donating system because I said there's a donate button. It's actually not. It's the pay now button. Right. If you want to donate, hit pay now. But you know what? Hold off on paying until we do the Spider-Man one.

Until we do a real good one. Until we do a good one. Yeah, but thank you to all those people. Absolutely. All right, Mason. Well, we're here to all those people. Absolutely. All right, Mason. Well, we're here to talk about something important. World hunger. Yes. Stop it.

Yeah, come on, guys. Moving on. Just get a burger in you. Moving along, though. Captain America, the Winter Soldier. That's what this episode's all about, mate. I didn't see it, though. You son of a bitch!

I saw it. I saw it. You April Fool's me. April Fool's buddy. Look, that's exploded into cinemas across the world. Massive openings they're predicting for the US. I don't like exploding into cinemas and massive openings. This has gotten weird already.

It's all a buzzword. I'm trying to use the Hollywood buzzword. It's really moistened cinema, hasn't it? It makes me seem more legitimate. Uh-huh. Don't you think? It makes me seem one of those cool E! Hollywood guys. Oh, good point.

Hey, everybody. Hope you like your blit-bl, you know? Yeah, Entertainment Tonight style. Exactly. Uh-huh, great. I could do that. You actually have got the hair for it, so you probably could. Sweet.

Thanks, man. Cool. All right. So, Captain America got the hair for it, so you probably could. Sweet. Thanks, man. Cool. All right. So, Captain America, the Winter Soldier. Can I just talk about my experience seeing that initially? Yes. I'll keep this brief because it's not that interesting.

When we got there, I went with my two bros, my brothers. Great guys. Your actual brothers? No. Oh. Well, yes. Okay. But I call them bros in the other way. You know?

Yeah. We train surf. Great. Anyway. That's real cool. We train surf. Great. Anyway. That's real cool. There was a big line or whatever. When I played 50 bucks for the ticket, I've said that before because we got some bonus stuff. Stuff I don't want.

So, you know, great. I got a limited edition Guardians of the Galaxy poster, which I'll never open. Maybe I'll give it away. But then giving it away would involve me posting it to somebody. And, you know. Well, we've got those $40 worth of stamps. Oh, yeah. I forgot. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. But there was a guy there in the captain american outfit when you say guy do you mean a guy employed by the valid question by the movie theater we weren't hey it's me we weren't sure one of my brothers asked that the the ticket person like is this guy you paid this guy or is he just a guy like no no we paid him okay okay so my brothers are like let's get a photo with him and i'm like all right cool i didn't i didn't end up getting a photo but my my um younger brother who's get a photo with him. And I'm like, all right, cool. I didn't end up getting a photo. But my younger brother, who's, as you know, he's giant. He's like six foot two.

Stood next to this guy. And look, I'm not a tall guy by any stretch, but I towered over this guy. Oh, that's unfortunate. He was the smallest Captain America I've ever seen. So my little brother got a photo with him. And then my older brother goes, listen, I want to get a photo as well. But he just goes to the guy, listen, which is kind of insulting, but I found it funny. He's like, can I just hold your shield?

I just want a photo with a shield. So just kind of like the guy stood to the side of my brother, got a photo with the shield. But when he was taking the photo, my brother made a comment. He's like, yeah, America or something, whatever, as a joke. And the guy's like, nah, mate, Australia. Captain Australia. Like, dude, stay in character. Yeah, come on, mate.

Yeah, exactly. Let's all go along with it. But yeah, that was very amusing for me, I thought. I feel if you're going to hire a promotional person for your premiere, he should probably be... There should be no question as to whether or not he is there for the premiere as an employee, not just a fan. Yeah, absolutely.

So maybe you get a guy Who's six foot four Or whatever Yeah absolutely Sure but you know Good luck to him Whatever He's making a bit of cash Unless he just works At the cinema

No I don't think he did Okay There was also a Scarlet Witch there Oh Who we didn't I don't think she worked there Okay you could have got a photo You could have hover handed her

Yeah I don't want to be like Because I'm pretty sure She didn't work there Also I don't do that It sounds really weird But I don't like Going up to someone Going hey can I Get a photo with you That's true yeah I feel like a real arsehole So I'm pretty sure she didn't work there. Also, I don't do that. It sounds really weird. But I don't go up to someone and go,

Hey, can I get a photo with you? That's true. I feel like a real arsehole. So I'm just like, yeah. If I walk past, I go, Hey, nice outfit. And I keep going. You know what I mean?

That's true. But at the same time, I really do want a photo with them. So it's that conflicted kind of thing, you know? So you just walk past and you're like, I don't want a photo. And then you just keep walking. Exactly.

Great. So yeah. Some people, though, on Mason are calling. Oh. I don't know and then you just keep walking exactly great so yeah some people though on Mason are calling oh do you have anything to say about the opening

when you saw it any amusing stories I just went to the cinema oh wow what a journey pretty great yeah some people are calling

this movie including Derek Jenza he's a guy on Twitter he's really good he's in this band called Artificial Agent he's a great guy check him out

anyway he's saying and others among others that it is better than The Dark Knight what do you think of that i think they're two different genres see i think i think the dark knight is in its own separate category fair point it's more a dark exploration of the human mind would you say they so they transcend different genres that doesn't

make sense they don't transcend any genres but i... I realised as I said that, that was nothing. I feel that Dark Knight's kind of a psychological crime film. Yep. That just happens to have a couple of people in costumes. Okay. And a couple of stunts. Yeah. You know, that are more spectacular and say they departed, but it's still...

It's more in that genre. It's got a truck flip. It does have a truck flip, you're right. I don't get sick of the truck flip. No, no. It's got some flying fox work. You know it. It's pretty great. My favourite. Yeah, yeah. No right i don't get sick of the truck flip no no it's got some uh it's got some flying fox work you know it's pretty great my favorite yeah yeah no i don't know i i i do not include the dark knight in in sort of that that yeah fun fun superhero category like i i really enjoy the winter soldier spoiler alert sure but it's a fun superhero film and the dark knight

i don't necessarily think is a it's got fun it's got fun elements to it it's an fun superhero film, The Dark Knight. I don't necessarily think it's a fun... It's got fun elements to it. It's an enjoyable film. Yeah, yeah. But I don't go, that's a fun superhero film, I'll sit down and watch. There's that really fun bit where Batman gets attacked by dogs. That was pretty fun, yeah. And he's like, oh, my arm!

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That's sunrisechallenge.ca. So yeah, so how are we going to do this? I thought we'd go spoiler free initially. Great. Even though by the time this comes out, most people would have seen it. And then we'll very clearly say this is the spoiler mark and we're going to spoil everything. Yeah, that's my favourite part. Including post-credit scenes and Easter eggs and all sorts of stuff.

You were telling me, when you do a review of something, it's really annoying to not be able to just spoil everything, right? I've said this before, I do not enjoy doing reviews. Because I feel like I've got to churn them out really quickly, and I feel like I don't put the effort into them and I want to do it.

I'm like, I could have made that better or that funnier. I could have used a better picture, and that timing's off on whatever. And I feel like I don't put the effort into them and I want to do it. I'm like, I could have made that better or that funnier. I could have used a better picture and that timing's off on whatever. And I hate it. Because the natural instinct is you see the movie with some friends and then you just want to talk about everything about it. Exactly. You don't want to hold back.

You're right. Yeah. So this is how it ends. No, I'm kidding. So yeah, in general, obviously, we both really, really enjoyed this movie. How do you think it stacked up against other Marvel movies? I think it's way up there. I think action-wise, it's probably better than the Avengers.

Wow. Yeah. Wow. Big call, right? Well, look, I think there's definitely something to that. Every action scene is gripping. None of them felt like tacked on to me. Not that they did in the Avengers, but I don't know.

They felt more that they did a lot of real stunt work and things like that. I think that really helped, you know? So yeah. I feel that the, especially the martial art, the hand-to-hand fighting is so, so much better than anything else we've seen in a Marvel movie. Yeah, absolutely. I did think of you when I was in there, as I often do. Because of my great martial arts skills.

Exactly. Where there is a lot of quick cutting in the fighting, but you didn't think, I know you don't like that. Did you? No, I thought the choreography sort of overcame that. Okay, cool. And it was cut together in a way where it made sense, the cuts.

Because sometimes when they cut, a bad example of this is Taken 2, where it's just, it cuts so quickly and I'm like... Still Taken. Yeah. Subtitle. But when it cuts, they're like flips and then they're standing on the opposite sides

of each other and it's but this I thought flowed really well Yeah I mean I don't think this is a spoiler but you know

when Captain America initially he went into the army When Captain America throws his mighty shield Sorry Um that you know he's gone from a guy

who's had some military training in the 40s Yeah He's been frozen over. He's had to survive. You know, he's unfrozen. He's basically gone directly into the battle for New York.

Yeah. And he's just been kind of a, you know, a kind of a tough guy with a lot of grit. Yeah. Who's punching his way through Nazis and then aliens. Yeah. And now he's received a lot of S.H.I.E.L.D. training. Yeah, exactly. He's a guy who can very easily stack up against supervillains or what have you.

Absolutely. And it really shows. I don't know if the directors were just like, we'll ramp up the action choreography. If they thought about that, let's make him this kind of special forces operative now. But either way. Either way it works.

Exactly, yeah. They didn't draw attention to whether he'd had more training or whatever, but that's exactly what I thought. It looked like that he'd been spending his nights practicing whatever, whatever. Uh-huh. Because even though he can't thump a guy really, really hard, but he still needs those skills to kind of,

because he's going to come up against somebody who's a better fighter than him, regardless how strong he is. Getting kicked in the face really hurts. Sure does. So, yeah. Did you think... A lot of more exciting trick shots, I thought.

A lot of what, sorry? Trick shots with the shield. Oh, yeah, love that. Yeah, yeah. I still don't understand how that works. No, it doesn't. It really doesn't. I bet if we looked right now,

there'd be multiple articles from science blogs about the inexplicable physics of his shield. Yeah, absolutely. I was worried initially going in. Well, first of all, the directors, the Russo brothers, had only done like episodes of Community and some other stuff. And I loved their work, but I was like, are these the right guys?

That makes sense. We'll get to that later. Yeah, well, that's it. But I was like, are these the right guys to choose? I don't know. But absolutely, they were the right guys to choose for this. Absolutely nailed it. I was also worried that it was going to be like the Avengers light,

because I remember reading an article on that. It was kind of like, yeah, we've got the Falcon, we've got Black Widow, we've got Nick Fury. It's kind of like the Avengers kind of B-team. I'm like, I don't want to see the Avengers B-team. No, exactly, yeah. But lo and behold, every edition I felt was really, really good. I particularly liked, well, Black Widow was great,

but Falcon was an awesome addition. I think he was a great character, yeah. Yeah. I hope we'll see more of him. I don't think he's going to be in the Avengers 2, but he'll no doubt turn up at some point, maybe at a children's birthday party. Ghostbuster 2 style.

Exactly. He's fallen on hard times. So, yeah, I think that was great. Also, did you think... I thought Iron Man and Thor didn't manage... Iron Man 3 and Thor 2 didn't manage to do this, but as well, the balance between humour and seriousness was done well.

It didn't jump between. It wasn't as jarring. Like in Thor, where his brother just dies and then the phone rings and it's a wacky ringtone yeah and an iron man tony stark's love of his life plummets to her death so he thinks and then he's quipping like a few minutes later that's true yeah like you know there was none of that yeah which i thought was good well i think there was there was less humor overall yeah i agree with that but i think that's that i like that though i think i think they they found the right balance,

in particular for this style of film. I'm not sure, though, it's... Is it really a movie for kids, this one? No. I don't know. I don't know what the gauge is anymore. Like, a lot of people get shot. Yeah.

But not only that, I think it's a... Slash kicked into engines. I love it. Yeah. You know I love a guy getting kicked into an engine. But I think the plot is a little bit convoluted for a kid. That's very I love it. Yeah. You know I love a guy getting kicked into an engine. But I think the plot is a little bit convoluted for a kid. That's very true, yeah. Yeah.

I mean, a kid doesn't go for the plot, though. A kid goes to see Captain America throw his mighty shield. I think, yeah. I'm talking young, young kids. I think any kid between like 10 and late teens or whatever. The plot is a little bit elaborate. Yeah. You're probably right.

And it does tie into a lot of films, a lot of other films. But at the same time, I feel you could, there's enough, like think of say, I don't know, a Phantom Menace. Sure. That plot is very convoluted. Yeah. And the action sequences are so few and far between that I think a child would get very bored.

I think you could probably go into Captain America, a kid could probably go into Captain America 2 and there's enough. Yeah. The action sequences keep on rolling, I think, enough that a kid could probably go into Captain America 2 and there's enough... Yeah. The action sequences keep on rolling, I think, enough that a kid would not be bored. You're right. You're absolutely right. Yeah, yeah. You've done a thing, then.

I have done a thing. I've had a thought and I've expressed that thought. Is there anything else you want to say before we get into spoiler territory? Because there's a whole bunch of stuff I want to talk about. No, it was real good. Good costumes. Very good costumes to talk about. Hmm. No, it was real good. Good costumes. Very good costumes. Thank you.

Yes. So, yeah. Look, from now, from this point on, let's say spoilers. So we can say whatever we want at any point. Hang on. Do I have any more non-spoilery stuff to say? Just chuck it in the spoilers part. Yeah, that's fine.

You know what? It did feel as if... You know how we've talked about Thor the Dark World? We have. And the entire universe was at stake. Yes. But it never really felt like the whole universe was at stake. Yeah.

There did feel like a genuine sense of danger in this film. Absolutely. Also, even though it was just, you know, the stakes were lower. The entire universe was not at stake in this film. But I did feel there was much more tension in this film. Absolutely. They really ratcheted up the tension. They did.

Tension ratchet. Yeah. Tension ratchet? Yeah, tension ratch film. Absolutely. They really ratcheted up the tension. They did. Tension Ratchin. Yeah. Tension Ratchin? Yeah, Tension Ratchin. All right. Spoilers from this point. Okay, spoilers. Here we go.

I'm putting my hand down. Yes. That's the spoiler warning. Okay, good. All right. What did you think of the... You're obviously alluding to the twist that S.H.I.E.L.D. was infiltrated by HYDRA. Correct.

Yeah. I thought that was incredible. Hmm. Did you? What did you think? That felt a little bit like Quantum of Solace style. Correct. Yeah. I thought that was incredible. Hmm. Did you? What did you think? That felt a little bit like Quantum of Solace style. Okay. Yeah, my six has been infiltrated by Quantum for decades and nobody's noticed.

No, that's an interesting twist on the whole Marvel Universe. It's going to change everything. Absolutely. A lot of people are going to go back now and look for telltale signs and things like that. Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. You know with Agent Sitwell who's in it, who turns out to be a Hydra agent. a lot of people are going to go back now and look for telltale signs and things like that. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. You know with Agent Sitwell, who's in it, who turns out to be a Hydra agent,

I never liked that guy. Interesting. And I just thought... Have you ever said that in a video? No, I can't prove it. You've got no proof, exactly. I can't prove it. He didn't sit well with me, I'll tell you that much.

You know, like you see Coulson and he's kind of happy-go-lucky. Whenever, you know, Sitwell's got his own one shot and I'm like, I don't even likeoulson and he's kind of happy-go-lucky and he's whenever you know Sitwell's got his own one shot and I'm like I don't even know this guy he's kind of a dick

and lo and behold turns out he's a Hydra agent whether that was planned out all along or not who's to say Mason but he even got

punched out in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. at one point or knocked out in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. it's an amazing disparity between the S.H.I.E.L.D.

we see in Captain America 2 and the S.H.I.E.L.D. we see in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. are you talking because Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. we see in Captain America 2 and the S.H.I.E.L.D. we see in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Are you talking because Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is just set on a plane? Yeah, exactly. It's like they're the weird backwater. It does feel a lot like they're the special ed team.

It feels like they're treading water between big films. Oh, yeah, it does feel like that, doesn't it? Yeah, you're right. Because last week's episode of S.H.I.E.L.D. basically leads into Captain America. Not like specifically, but you can see how next week there's going to be ramifications because of how to the extent that S.H.I.E.L.D. has been infiltrated and whatever. And I do think that show is getting better, but its budget constraints is notable.

Right, gotcha. You know, it's TV. What are you going to do? But initially I thought the whole of shield was pretty much like 90 of it was hydra right that was my initial thought and i'm like wow that's really going to change everything but i'm not really sure by the end i was kind of like oh it's it's it's some hydra right they're not all hydra right exactly so i think it is going to change the universe but not as much as I initially thought.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's talk about action sequences, because we can spoilerize them now. You know it! Yeah. Okay, I like the inclusion of Batroc. Yeah, at the beginning. The Leaper. The Leaper, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, you know what?

They got him to leap around, but not in a ridiculous way, which I appreciate. Yeah. That was great. What a really good fight scene. They've incorporated a Captain America villain into Captain America which was nice that was fun they even got the outfit accurate

no yeah it was pretty close he's purple yeah he had a purple jumpsuit with the yellow stripe down the front ok that's alright what do you think of that

no winged face no ok there were elements yeah no ok but he was it was good to see

it was an excellent sort of hand to hand sequence I thought it was really, really good. And Steve Rogers can speak French. Yeah. I didn't know that. Or did I? Nah.

I didn't put it in the video, so I can't prove it. Can't prove it. There's no way to prove it, yeah. As far as villains go, even though he wasn't in it as much as I thought he'd be, the Winter Soldier is a terrifying villain. Yes. Like, just the way when you see him coming, and how fast he is, and how he can really hurt you quite a lot and kill you and stuff.

Yeah, sure. Like, he's the most threatening villain we've had in a long time. Like, when you'd see him, you just want to get away. You know what I mean? You don't want to go in close. And, like, that's evident when he, you know, goes up against... Even Captain America, he can hold his own quite easily against Captain America. And that bit where he's... When the Falcon's trying to get away, you know, at the end,

when they're on top of the stage. And he just grabs one of those wings. Just tears one, tears his wings off. You would think, and I didn't want to say this pre-spoilers, but you would think that the wings would have something built in to counteract that. Like they're electrified or something. Anti-Teri-Off-y. Yeah, anti-Teri-Off-y things.

Yeah. They do seem very vulnerable. Yeah. Like when you think Iron Man doesn't have any incredibly vulnerable wings to be... Oh, no, he doesn't, does he? No. That's a really good point. You could probably just have the jetpack without the wings, maybe.

But then he wouldn't be him, would he? No, that's true. He wouldn't be the Falcon. Nick Fury gets his own solo action sequence. Yes! His very first one. About time! And I think, yeah, I'm glad that it was great.

It was a good one, wasn't it? Yeah, it was really super solid. Yeah. Really tense. Incredibly tense. He had the machine gun in the car. That's what I'm talking about as far as, like, these are great action sequences. That was super tense.

Yeah. Like, we know logically that he has a few more movies left on his contract. Yeah. So he couldn't die, really. Or maybe he can come back as a whole. Well, that's what I thought. I'm like, yeah, he could be dead. But then I also thought, they killed Coulson, and they brought him back.

So it doesn't matter even if he is dead. That's true, yeah. You know? Probably a bad move, putting the machine gun inside the car. Don't you think? You don't like that? No. Yeah, fair point.

Because the windows are bulletproof. Oh yeah, good point. So who's that for shooting? People inside the car? That's a really good point. Yeah, yeah. But, um, I was going to say, that whole...

Can't remember. Great action sequence. Oh yeah, the hover car. You know how he's like, he's trying to activate the hover part of the car. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they never even ended up doing it, but I thought that was a nice little touch. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Where he's trying to get the car flying, and it just doesn't fly at all. It doesn't fly with him, mate. You know? I get it, yeah. You get it. So I thought that was great. You know what else I loved? What's that?

There was a, Zola, he was a mind in a computer. Yes. And you know I love a mind in a computer. I know you do. I know you do. It's my favourite thing. You love a face on a computer screen? Yeah. You. It's my favourite thing. I know you love a face on a computer screen. Yeah.

You love that. That was amazing. Bringing back Zola. I knew he was coming back in some capacity. I thought he'd be in Flashback, but it was terrific. I thought he'd be in like a Wolfenstein. Yeah. Like big clanky robot.

Yeah, yeah. That would have been good too. That would have been great. Yeah, it's a shame that he was killed off so quickly though. Yeah, true. Yeah. I loved all the old like 1970s computer technology. Yeah.

His whole mind is in that entire room. Right, right, right. That was fantastic. That was a nice little twist I thought as well. Chuck and Zola. As soon as I booted up

I'm like, oh my God, it's Zola. Ah! I was like that. Yeah. Yeah. You ruined everybody else's movie going experience.

I did. And I also loved the Gary Shandling twist. Me too. Who doesn't love a Gary Shandling twist? And that also makes sense the Gary Shandling twist. Me too. Who doesn't love a Gary Shandling twist? And that also makes sense because Gary Shandling hates Tony Stark. Right.

And is a prick. And it turns out he's a Hydra agent. People, well, I think maybe it was just me, I gasped when he said, hail Hydra. I was like, couldn't believe it, mate. Wow. Couldn't believe it. So that was terrific. Crossbones, though.

What do you think of Crossbones? Wait a second. The guy who gets all burnt up, who beats up the Falcon. Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay, right, right, right. What's his real name? I can't remember. I can't remember either.

Yeah. But yeah, that guy will become Crossbones at some point. Oh, that makes sense. I did like the appearance of patron saint of this podcast, Callan Mulvey. Oh, yeah. Jurassic from Heartbreak High. You know it. He's just been cast in

Batman vs. Superman as well. Yeah. He's making waves. You know it. Good for him. Yeah. Patron saint. Yeah, that was amazing.

So, yeah. Really, really cool. I was a little bit disappointed that there was no Red Skull. I kind of hoped that Robert Redford would be the Red Skull. I mean Robert Redford, you know? I know what you mean.

Mark Webster, they've cast him. Yeah, that's right. He's got a name that's similar to the thing. Did you enjoy the inclusion of Robert Redford? Yes, very much so. Isn't he the best? Yeah. I think Robert Redford spoiled months and months ago that he was the villain, though.

I didn't see that. Yeah, he's one of those guys, you know, he doesn't, he's, you know, whatever age, he doesn't care. Also, I think back in the day that wasn't as much of a concern. Like, you'd be cast as the villain. You'd be like,

well, I'm the villain in this. And then like, yeah, exactly. You'd see how that played out. That's right. Yeah, yeah. That's exactly it. But nowadays, it's very important to get that under wraps.

Come on, man. It's all cloak and dagger, mate. It's all cloak and dagger. So, do you think, though, it really does change everything in the Marvel Universe? Well, they've destroyed... The shield is gone again. Well, some of it. Wait, are they...

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Is that going to be reflected in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.? I believe so. Bearing in mind, I don't care. I don't know whether to answer this or not. Yeah, yeah. No, I think it will. But everything's been destroyed, right?

All the intelligence is gone? Well, or in the open. Yeah. Right, right. Pretty much, yeah. Well, yeah, I mean, it changes everything in? Well, or in the open. Yeah, pretty much. Well, yeah, I mean, it changes everything in that sense. But S.H.I.E.L.D. is still there. You know, it's still a thing. I think people just have less trust in it or whatever.

But apparently it's going to be reflected in the next Avengers movie because the Avengers won't really have the backing of S.H.I.E.L.D. They're kind of more an independent team like the A-Team. That was the comparison for it. So, yeah, I thinkL.D. They're kind of more an independent team like the A-Team. Great. That was the comparison. So yeah, I think that'll be interesting where you can't rely on

your S.H.I.E.L.D. base. And of course, the Avengers Tower makes a very brief appearance in the movie. You know when all the guns are targeting stuff? Yes, yes.

It targets the Avengers Tower, which was of course the Stark Tower. So they've still got a base of headquarters, but that's, for all intents and purposes, that's Tony Stark's tower.

Yeah. He can do what he wants in that tower. Exactly. Yeah. Well, all they've got is Tony Stark's billions of dollars. That'll be... They'll have to get by. They'll have to get by, yeah.

Yeah. What about the after credits scenes? Oh, yeah. You got some Baron Von Strucker. That's true, yep. You got some Loki's scepter. Yeah, we did. You got some Scarlet Witch.

And Quicksilver, yeah. And Quicksilver. They look like really scary dudes. And they look, Quicksilver especially, looks better than Days of Future Past Quicksilver. Yes, that is the case. Do you think they're being mind-controlled by Loki's scepter? No, I think they're just... No, because I think we would have seen something limited to that.

We would have seen like electric-y, power-y... Okay....thingamajiggies. See, I think that is the case. Okay. I think that's some of what's going on there. seen we would have seen something limited that would have seen like electric-y power-y okay thingamajiggies see i think that is the case okay i think that's some of what's well you've called it so let's see what happens yeah i mean i've never been wrong before correct especially about that agent sitwell thing yeah but you know what else i thought was really did they have the black eyes of somebody who's been mind controlled uh no i don't think so they had the crazy face though they did have crazy face right yeah yeah actually a wrote in to me, and he said I could take credit for this, but I'm not going to take credit, because I'm a fucking super cool dude.

You know it. Jack Poison Lips Sheehan. Don't think that's his real name. That's what he said. Okay. And you've never been wrong before, so okay. No, that's right. He thinks that that Loki star could be being used to bring Red Skull back.

Because Red Skull went into space. He did go into space, didn't he? Yeah, you're right. And the staff opens portals and whatnot, I'd imagine, and stuff. That is an excellent theory. I'm on board with that. Yeah. Exactly.

Why else would they be needing the staff? Yeah. So it'd be great to see Red Skull again in some capacity. But I think they're in the opening sequence of Captain America, Baron Von Strucker and all that. So yeah, I think that'll be kind of the opening bad guy and then other stuff, other things happen. Do you think Ultron will tie into Zola? No. No computer intelligence?

I think he's gone forever. No, I'm not saying they're the same thing, but I think the technology is linked. I don't think... No, I'm not saying they're the same thing, but I think the technology... Do you think the technology is linked? No, I'm going to say... Unless they can find a way that Howard Stark somehow had a hand in that technology

and that was brought along to Tony Stark who then created Jarvis. Yeah. I think this is just going to be an offshoot of Jarvis. Okay. Yeah, I think you're right. You're probably right. Look, Mason, did you know, though...

Yes, I'm ready. There are a lot of Easter eggs in this movie. I'm ready to listen. Iron Man mentions Easter time is coming So Yes Is that what you meant

Tis the season Yes Okay There are multiple I've got a video on this online If you want to check it out as well Or I could just tell you You could tell me with your words

There's multiple Iron Man mentions As we know Tony Stark's name Dropped by Robert Redford They targeted him in the machine Yep Correct Targeted him

He also You know He rebuilt the... The helicarriers. The helicarriers. They were repulsive powers now, yeah. Because he got mashed in one. Yeah, that's true, yeah. He did not enjoy that.

No, sir. So, yeah. Howard Stark's death as well is also referenced. Hydra were behind it. Hydra were behind it. So, initially, that was a car accident, or it still is a car accident. Oh, sure.

But it's a Hydra caused car accident I thought that was really really cool way to tie everything in Tony Stark probably won't like that no was it implied that the Winter Soldier did that?

that didn't say that didn't say yeah that'll be awkward in future well he's killed a lot of people that people like so yeah

very awkward the Avengers Tower I mentioned. Stephen Strange reference. Correct, yes. Yeah. He's one of the designated targets. That's it.

And he hasn't done anything yet, or has he? We don't know. I don't think he's got the powers yet. No. Because otherwise, yeah. But I thought that was

a really great reference. Do you want to see that Doctor Strange? Yes, absolutely. Yeah. I want to see if they're going to be, if it's going to be science that is indistinguishable from magic, or if it's going to be magic. You know what I want to see if they're going to be, if it's going to be science that is indistinguishable from magic or if it's going to be magic.

You know what I mean? Okay. I think they're leaning towards, it is magic, but there are- Oh, whoa, whoa. It's magic? You know? Never believe it's not so? Exactly.

Yep. But some of it is, but some of it can be explained by science to an extent. Right. Like Thor. Thor style. Exactly. Thor style! Yes. Yeah. Long hair, sleeveless. Right. Like Thor. Thor style. Exactly. Thor style! Yes.

Yeah. Long hair, sleeveless t-shirt. Fantastic. Thor style. Danny Pudi. Yes, there we go. There's your community reference. There's your community reference.

If anyone who watches the TV show Community, he plays Abed in that show. Great show. Yep. And he makes an appearance. I loved that. I was like, great inclusion. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Also, and I think, because, you know, we get the regular Stan Lee appearance. Yes. He's a security guard at the Captain America Museum. That Captain America gets fired. Yeah, exactly. He's out on the streets. He's a very old man now. The cold will not be kind to him.

People love the Stan Lee cameo. People in the cinema were like, yay, when he came out. But what I'm thinking is because he also had an appearance from comedian DC Pearson. Oh, yeah. I forgot that. I'm hoping in the next film

we get some sort of passing of the torch from Stan Lee to DC Pearson. How good would that be? That would be amazing. Because Stan Lee's got to retire from this eventually. Yeah, he does. I think we just get DC Pearson. Why DC Pearson more than anybody else?

I don't know, because he had a really ridiculous beard. He did have a ridiculous beard. Yeah, yeah. That was great. Howling Commandos were, of course, referenced multiple times. You see them. You see their suits and all that. You know the note that Captain America looks at the start of the movie

and it's got a list of things he needs to catch up on? Yes. That varies from country to country. Does it really? In our country, it's... We've got ACDC. We've got ACDC. We've got Skippy the Bush Kangaroo.

Because I remember seeing that and being like, surely that's not a thing that everybody would want to catch up on. You didn't really say that. I missed that. It said Skippy the Bush Kangaroo. By the way, who is a wallaby? Spoiler alert. Wow.

He's not a real kangaroo. But I know overseas, I think they had some particular World Cup that happened. Oh, I see. Right, right. And a bunch of other stuff. That's clever. Certain bands. And a bunch of other stuff. That's clever. Certain bands. And some things stay the same.

I think the Berlin Wall was a constant in all of them or whatever. But yeah, that's a nice little touch. That's a nice little touch, I thought. I guess so. But at the same time, yeah, why is he... Who's referenced Skippy the Bush Kangaroo to him? Nobody. I think they just went, what's Australian?

Right. Skippy the Bush Kangaroo. You know what. I think they just went, what's Australian? Right. Skippy the Bush Kangaroo. You know what? Chuck in a... I think Steve Irwin might have even been on there. Steve Irwin was on there. Yeah, you're right. Chuck in a Crocodile Dundee 3.

Los Angeles. Yeah, here's the thing, though. Steve Irwin was much more popular in the US than he was in Australia. That's true, yeah. The first time I saw him, I'm like, is this guy a clown? Is this a joke? Right. Now he's dead.

He's your parody character. Yeah. Oh, we miss him. Turns out he's not. But he seemed like a parody character yeah oh we miss him turns out he's not but it seemed like a very genuine guy good night yeah yeah yeah i once caught a stingray did i tell you that no i didn't pull into the boat because it was an enormous and it killed steve ellen that time right it was the very same one and you let it go wow i don't have hate in my heart i forgive even people who kill national treasures and people who don't like the movie National Treasures.

Thank you. There we go. Also, Tommy Lee Jones. You see an appearance of Tommy Lee Jones briefly, a picture of him in his shield bunker. Also, Scarlett Johansson, and you can't really see this. I only saw this afterwards.

She's wearing a tiny arrow pendant around her neck. Oh, the Hawkeye. Yeah. Oh, I thought arrow, TV show arrow. I thought she was just a big fan of around her neck indicating oh I thought arrow unless she's just a big fan of the show so yeah I guess they're in a relationship yeah that's nice there you go

Sharon Carter his neighbour of course isn't referred to as Sharon Carter they just call her Sharon but she is from the comics she is Hayley Atwell who is Peggy Carter's niece but I think they'd have to change it to great grand niece or something But she is from the comics. She is Hayley Atwell, who is Peggy Carter's niece. Yep. But I think they'd have to change it to great-grandniece or something.

I don't think she could actually just be her niece. No, that wouldn't work at all. Because Peggy Carter would be like 90 years old. Yeah, so she'd have to be like 50. Yeah. Did you like the aged Peggy Carter? I didn't think it was great. That was CGI, man. I didn't think it was great.

I thought it was as best as you could do it. No, I think it worked, but I think she didn't look old enough. Okay, yeah, yeah. She's supposed to be 90, right? She'd be at least... She did not look like 90. She looked like 60. Yeah, fair point.

I understand that she's a very attractive woman, and you can't go too far. You don't want to make her a monster. Yeah, exactly. But she should not have looked like that. Okay, fair point. Because you'd still bang her, and that's it. Yeah, exactly.

Exactly. That is exactly my point. There was also a Pul reference sam jackson's grave stone has ezekiel 25 17 that's it yeah exactly thank you for reminding me that was a delight there was a war games reference the movie war games yes do you want to play a game and then when you know that came up and scarlett hansen goes to steve rogers that's a very popular film yeah yeah but and he's like yeah i've seen it surely you wouldn't have gone back and watched war games oh no it's war related is it significant a significant film you know what he might have gone what happened in what happened you know militarily okay in the intervening time cold war

mutually assured destruction yeah films about that war games okay i'm willing to give him the in The Intervening Time, Cold War, Mutually Assured Destruction, films about that, War Games. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. So he watched War Games and Red Dawn. Yes, and then Red Dawn Remake. So yeah, there's also apparently a Paul Newman reference. In Robert Redford's fridge,

there's a Paul Newman bottle of Paul Newman's dressing or whatever. As we know, though... And there's a scene where he pulls it out.ul newman's dressing or whatever as we know though and there's a scene where he pulls it out there's a deleted scene where he pulls out he's like i outlived you he really is evil he's an evil man yeah so yeah that's uh that's pretty good redford looked really good in this film yeah i thought he would have looked very very old and you know he was into it as well he never he doesn't turn into tired performance that's true he's the best. I thought he would have looked very, very old. And you know what? He was into it as well. He doesn't turn into tired performance. That's true. He's great.

He's got a new movie at the moment where he's stuck on a boat. I think I've spoken about it before. I've got a copy of it and I've got to watch it. Boat lounger. Yeah, it's just him on a boat and he's trapped. Apparently it's really, really good. And I love Redford. You know it.

I know you do, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So there you go. But I think that's all the Easter egg-y things love it that's some good stuff you know it there's one more thing

I want to say and admit and this is kind of embarrassing you didn't say it you're just guessing about what happened you know the bit at the end

where Steve Rogers wakes up after he's been beaten unconscious and saved by the Winter Soldier where's his shield gone is that your question

that's not because that annoys me that's really that's really got me on edge because the shield fell into the ocean where is it it's like a lake yeah oh okay that's all right you can scare a lake i guess you could scare you could scare i would assume that it's a they've had they've built some sort of little homing device oh they probably have yeah you think so yeah i would have it was my shield because that thing's it's very expensive and useful that's quite rare you can't get another one of those no you can't that's it anyway what what annoyed you no it didn't

annoy me okay but when he woke up i just assumed it's annoyed you because everything annoys me that's true but next to him was um the falcon yep and when he wakes up he goes steve rogers says to him this is fucking embarrassing he goes on your left uh-huh and everybody in the cinema laughed and i sat there and i went because he went on his left i know and i. And everybody in the cinema laughed. And I sat there and I went... Because he went on his left. I know. And I'm like, I don't get that. You didn't have to admit that right now.

Because you've since figured it out. No, I figured it out over the 30 seconds. But at the time, I was like... Because you were like, what does this mean in the cinema? Because it was weird because everybody laughed. And I'm sitting there and I'm like, how the fuck do I not get this? I get everything. Right.

I don't miss anything. You're losing your edge, man. I must be. Yeah. And then I'm like, oh, right. I'm sitting there and I'm like how the fuck do I not get this I get everything right I don't miss anything you're losing your edge man I must be yeah and then I probably oh right it's that I'm like idiot of course it is how did I not how did I not get

that so that's embarrassing I must be losing my edge I think so yeah now you'll get it back for Guardians of the Galaxy I have to sharpen that edge right up yeah I think that is

there anything else we really want to say about that uh Maybe just, do you think Bucky will become the Winter Soldier? Well, he is the Winter Soldier. Do you think he'll become Captain America? Yeah.

Yes. At least temporarily. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Because it's kind of foreshadowed when he holds the shield at one point. Yeah, true.

I'd like to see him as the Winter Soldier. Well, he's got nine films in his contract. So, yeah, at some point, yeah. Chris Evans has three left. Right, yeah. I don't know how it works out.

But yeah. Do you think they missed an opportunity? Because in the first post-credit sequence, in the mid-credit sequence, he shows up at the Captain America Museum and he looks at his identity on the big piece of glass. He had the opportunity to smash that glass

and he didn't smash that glass. That is a classic move of a man with no memory looking at a big piece of glass or a mirror. You're right. Smash that mirror. Smash that glass.

He didn't. Yeah, yeah. Disappointing. How great was his metal arm, though? It didn't do enough things. You wanted to fly off, didn't you? I wanted to fly off. Maybe a grappling hook would work.

Yeah. Electrical discharge. Yeah. You know, something. It kind of, it seemed like it had like a little bit of a kick to it. It had a jackhammer kind of effect. Yeah, that was good. That kind of thing. But yeah, I thought that bit of a kick to it. It had a jackhammer kind of effect. Yeah, that was good. Kind of thing.

But yeah, I thought that was a really interesting element, especially when you pit Steve Rogers against him. Steve Rogers has got the shield, he's got the arm. It's kind of... Yeah, yeah. It's really, really cool. What great action sequences. Hand-to-hand combat.

We mentioned that, I'm sure. Knife fight. Great knife fight. Great knife fight. It's so many knives on him. Too many? No, just enough knives. There's no such thing. Yeah, no such thing as too many knives. No. It's so many knives on him. Too many? No, just enough knives.

There's no such thing. Yeah, no such thing as too many knives. No, that's it. Well, I guess we're down to the rating,

Mason. Okay. In my review, as you know, I called it worst movie ever. Yes. Because the Winter Soldier was not

wintry enough. That's very true, yeah. You should have had a winter coat and a bowl of soup for an hour.

Yes. People, Mason, do not appreciate that. A bit of leniency In their reviews I'm never going to stop though No why would you

Yeah yeah But no obviously for me It is best movie ever I loved it I was going to say Best movie ever Easily the best Of the Phase 2 Marvel movies

Yes Even better than The Hulk The Incredible Hulk Even better than that Yes But Would you put it up

So would you say It's a better movie than The Avengers? I'm going to need another watch of it. I think I'm going to watch it again. But I think it could very well age out. The Avengers is my favourite. Yeah, I agree. And it must be terrifying for DC

that they have Captain America go up against them in 2016. Captain America 3. I think they should be. Well. I think they bloody should be because Captain America is now I can't think of that's good. I think they should be. Well. I think they bloody should be because Captain America is now a massive kind of property.

This movie is set to break all sorts of April records and they reckon it's going to make 100 million in the US over the weekend and all that kind of stuff. So I think it's going to do

some damage, man. Yeah, it will. Yeah, yeah. But again, I think as we've said we've never seen Superman and Batman team up on screen before. We've kind of seen

what captain america can do at this point yeah so i don't know which will you say first is my question whichever one i'm able to say first okay right but if i had if they're at the same time yep they're exactly the same time i'd have to do the batman versus superman correct first no trailer first to see oh i see right right right Right, right, right. Yeah, but I like this so much at this point. Maybe Captain America? Oh, there you go. Okay.

But yeah, you got your Batman Superman. You might be right though. I might have to see the trailers first and see what's more intriguing. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, definitely

one of my favourite Marvel movies. If not my favourite. Yeah. If this Superman Batman trailer there's any hint that they're

in some sort of fist fight I'm going to Superman Batman first.'s any hint that they're In some sort of fist fight I'm going to Superman Batman first I think you're in luck Yeah I think you're in luck But did you think it was better Than the first Iron Man That's one thing people are saying

Oh not as good as the first Iron Man Or not as good as Avengers I don't know Because I've seen the first Iron Man So many times Yeah That maybe the All the suspense of it

Has worn off Sure We're almost nostalgic for it At this point Mason Exactly yeah It's been six years Back in the day Yeah now that maybe all the suspense of it has worn off. Sure. We're almost nostalgic for it at this point, Mason. Exactly, yeah. It's been six years. Back in the day. I don't know, I really enjoyed the first Iron Man. Yeah, me too.

As far as visceral action sequences go, Iron Man has very fun action sequences, but a scene where he's flying through the Gulmira and they shoot him down, and then he gets out of the pit and he dod you know, dodges the tank shell and then he shoots the tank with a missile. That's a fun action sequence. That's great.

But there's no tension to it. No. Because clearly he's not going to... It's just awesome. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you're right. And sort of, there's no, there's very little tension in an Iron Man action sequence because he's got artificial intelligence and he can fly.

Yeah. And he's got all sorts of weapons. So he can just, oh, there's 10 guys, he can just calculate how to defeat all of them in a second and then it's sort of a foregone conclusion.

That's why the tension in Iron Man 3 was so ramped up, Mason, because he didn't have a suit for some of it. Yeah, that's a real good point. That is a good point. Yeah. Yeah, but I think, you know, I think there was much more.

The action sequences in Captain America 2 are much more visceral. Yeah, sure. And kind of more tense. Yeah, absolutely. I'm going to give the edge to that. All right then. Well, there you go. I think the finale of this is better than the finale of Iron Man as well.

The final battle. It does make more sense. It does make more sense, yeah. Nobody just went insane. They've been insane for a real long time, sure. Yeah, yeah. Robert Redford was insane that entire time. Yeah.

And in real life. Twist. Twist. There you go. I feel like there's more to say about that, but I don't know. I feel like the well's empty for the moment, Mason. Don't think that we won't come back to this well, though. Wells get replenished.

Is that how that works? Yeah, from the groundwater. Yes. Good. So when the cinematic groundwater fills us up again. Do you know, Mason, this is embarrassing. There was a moment in that where i didn't get a joke no i remember okay you told us that okay a couple of minutes ago yeah all right mason you know what it's time for yep what we reading oh what we gonna read okay good news on what we read and what we're gonna

read what's that gabriel bruton the brute yes he's the creator of our thing he emailed this week exactly yes creative theme song he He emailed this week. Exactly. Yes. Created the theme song. He emailed in this week and said, hey, I'm going to do what we read

and what we're going to read. What a champion. I love that guy. I know. Very exciting. He also said, he's got a friend who's illustrated

his first comic through the medium of Tumblr. Can we give him a shout out? And you know, I've been culling the shout outs, but the Brute always gets a shout out.

Absolutely. Because he's a great bloke. It's also his birthday today, so I feel inclined to do a shout out absolutely he does because he's a great bloke it's also his birthday today so I feel inclined to do a shout out I said that did I say that no shout out

happy birthday friend his name is Micah and his comic is called Blood and Lanterns and that's on Tumblr so everybody check that out is it bloodandlanterns.tumblr.com possibly yes

let's assume it is I should have got just google that but yeah go check it out guys yeah I support independent comics do you support them? yeah

yes great thank you the brute that's going to be what I'm reading you don't have one this week? I didn't think of one

okay cool well I've got one and it's funny because I was actually going to say this anyway but then Josh Zingerman sent an email last week Zingerman Zingerman

and I was going to bring it up last week but then we because we did a Captain America episode. I remember that. Yeah, you were here. So we did

Captain America books but the one that he recommended is called Black Science from Image Comics and it's basically it's about these dimensionauts so they're astronauts

that travel through well, yeah astronauts that travel through dimensions and they kind of have to fight to survive and it's an amazingly illustrated book and it's got a very compelling story. I think they're about four to six issues in, and they go to, like, a weird kind of alternative World War I kind of world,

in a world where there's, like, frog people and a whole bunch of stuff. And it's intriguing, and it's great. Black Mirror, Black Mirror, Black Science, it's definitely one to watch, Mason, because I like it. And so does Josh Zingerman there you go the Zingerman yeah

since we're talking about in fact I've got one hang on you said you already have one you can't have two no I'm gonna have two the rules have gone

out the window until we get a theme song that locks this thing down anything goes alright fair enough yeah well since we're talking about sort of

World War 2 era characters what I'm gonna read yeah I've had a little bit of a read but you've just reminded me so this has elements of what we read and since we're talking about sort of World War II era characters, what I'm going to read, I've had a little bit of a read, but you've just reminded me. So this has elements of what we read and what we're going to read. Correct. I've covered all the bases.

This is a series called Manhattan Project. Okay. And it's from Jonathan Hickman, who recently has done a really good run on Fantastic Four. Anyway, Manhattan Project is sort of about an alternate World War II. Yeah. Sort of a post-World War II era, where sort of the Manhattan Project is sort of about an alternate World War II. Yeah. It was sort of a post-World War II era where sort of the Manhattan Project, which was to create the atomic bomb, was actually sort of a front.

I mean, they made the atomic bomb. But also, it was a front for sort of all sorts of weird, sort of really strange and esoteric sort of science projects and sort of weird. We're talking dimensions. We're talking monsters. We're talking Albert Einstein is're talking monsters. We're talking Albert Einstein is probably

a serial murderer. What? It's pretty good. Cool. Yeah, it's good fun. Alright. So, uh... What year is that from?

What era? Uh, that's quite recent. Alright. That came out in 2012. The Manhattan Project. And it's happening. It's happening right now. Oh my goodness.

Maybe Oppenheimer was the serial killer. I'm gonna go... I'm gonna read it. I'm gonna re-read it. But it's really good. It's super fun. Alright, the Manhattan Project.

Manhattan Projects. Projects. With a Z. Projects. Well, Mason. Yes? A couple of listener questions and shout-outs this week.

I have an idea. Yes? For shout-outs. Yes? I thought we could turn it into a listener question segment where people write in, ask us a question.

It can be a personal question, preferably not, because, you know, who cares? Yeah. But, you know, a question about... Hey, I question preferably not because you know who cares but you know a question about hey I'm interesting

oh that's not true but like you know about comics or movies or anything in general that they'd like to know our opinions on or like to share an opinion and then you know

ask to I like to hear opinions yeah absolutely so this week we've got one from Joel Acklin and he wants to know and I think we are

going to do an episode on this what is your favourite comic book movie video game? Ooh. He's got a couple here, so I'm going to list these. Do they have to be movie video games or just comic book video games?

No, just says comic book video games. Okay, ready, go. He and his roommate got the infamously terrible Aquaman game for his birthday. I've never heard of that. I've never seen that one. Me neither.

It's probably like PS2 era, maybe? Okay. Yeah. It can't be recent, surely. No. We know. His favourite's the Spider-Man 2. That's a great one. Yep. The Arkham games, maybe? Okay. Yeah. It can't be recent, surely. No. We know. His favourite's The Spider-Man 2. That's a great one.

Yep. The Arkham Games, except Origins. Ooh, sick Origins burn. That is a sick Origins burn. X-Men Legends, Marvel Ultimate Alliance, though he's only played the first one. Which one did we play? Which one did we get bogged down in? It was one.

It was one, but it was like previous era. It was like, it was PS2. Yeah. So it was not good. No, we, we've talked about this before, but... We slogged through it like we were going to work. It was like, it was PS2. Yeah. So it was not good. No, we, we've talked about this before, but. Slogged through it like we were going to work. It was like going to work. Yes.

Yeah. But you fight Galactus at the end, right? Yeah. It was okay. Yeah. I like the colourful roster of characters. They were good. Yeah.

One of my favourites. Yeah. Was Captain America and the Avengers from back in the day. It was an arcade game. Okay. It was super good. It was like your Ninja Turtles kind of game. Oh, that's cool.

Favourite character? Iron Man. Yes. Yeah. And so it was, you play, it was like a ninja turtles kind of game oh that's cool favorite character iron man yes yeah and so it was you you play it was a four player so it was a four four controller system sure and it was captain america vision yeah weird beige vision hawkeye iron man and it was there was a lot of there was a lot of punching around it was like a side scrolling brawlery kind of situation brawler kind of thing. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And there were also flying sequences.

Ah. So Iron Man and the Vision would fly around. And Captain America and Hawkeye would have little, like those little flying chariot, Avenger flying hobbit bike things. That's great. It's pretty great. Like Battletoads. And you would fight heaps of crazy villains.

Whoa. Yeah. That sounds really good. Well, it wasn't. It was probably not great now. It's pretty great. Like Battletoads. And he would fight heaps of crazy villains. Whoa. Yeah. That sounds really good. It was really, well, it was probably not great now. Don't go back. That sounds okay. Never go back. And the villain was the Red Skull, so.

Oh, really? At the very end? Very end. Wow, I'd never even heard of this. I used to love those side-scrolling beat-up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ninja Turtles was obviously a classic example. The Simpsons one was really good as well.

Yeah. Oh, that's right. I remember being. And you would fight the end. You'd fight the Red Skull and be like there in a suit. And he'd be like, yeah, I'm the Red Skull. And you'd be like, well, this is going to be pretty easy. And you'd thump him for a bit.

And then he would appear and he'd be like, that's not me at all. I'm here. And then he would escape in his escape pod. And the Red Skull you'd been fighting turned into a giant Red Skull robot. It was great. What a twist. Yeah, it was a twist. Man.

Yeah. That sounds amazing. It's pretty fun. We should download some Marco games and play them together. What a twist. Yeah, it was a twist. Man. Yeah. That sounds amazing. It was pretty fun. We should download some Marco games and play them together. Okay. Nah. No. Yeah.

Don't worry about it. Look, I... Yeah, it's fine. Don't worry about it. I'll just go. It's hard. I mean, the more recent ones obviously stick in my mind. The Arkham games.

Spider-Man 2 was a great game. Ultimate Destruction. Oh, that's a great one. Hulk Ultimate Destruction. Or is it Incredible Hulk Ultimate Destruction? I don't know. I don't know what it great game. Ultimate Destruction. Oh, that's a great one. Hulk Ultimate Destruction. Or is it Incredible Hulk Ultimate Destruction? I don't know what it's called. It's amazing. It's the same guys who did Prototype.

And it feels very Prototype. And what's particularly great about that game, you feel exactly like the Hulk. Like, when you run, you don't have to dodge around cars or anything. You just plow through them. And you don't slow down. You just drop your shoulder and go right through it.

Yeah, right. And you can just move at incredible speeds. And you fight mechs. Yep. And you don't slow down. You just drop your shoulder and go right through it. Yeah, right. And you can just move at incredible speeds. And you fight mechs. Yep. And you're leaping through the desert. And you can get a car and tear it in half. Yes. And use your boxing gloves.

Oh, that game was the best. On the flip side of that, though, the Iron Man game was not good. No. On the PS2. The problem is, I think nobody has really nailed the flying mechanics. Never. That's true. Behind a flying character.

Which, man, this game, I know we're talking about best, but Superman Returns on the, I think it was on the Xbox 360, but I played it on PS2, but apparently they're equally terrible. People hate the Superman 64 game, and that game is inexcusably terrible. Right. But Superman Returns is possibly as bad. Right. It's one of those ones where the flying's great.

I'll give it that. But there's a weird... It's hard to kind of make him fly and then land naturally. It's a real kind of awkward jarring. Then you're stuck on the ground and it's weird. And you get your powers or whatever. But you're like, oh, you've earned your heat vision or whatever, right? And then you get your heat vision.

Then they're like, oh, these beings from another dimension, they're heat vision proof. Right. So you have to use your freeze breath or whatever. Right. And it's just not good or compelling in any way. And at the end of the game, you fight a hurricane. No, at the end of the game, you fight a tornado. Huh.

That sounds awful. It's just the worst. That's even worse than lifting up a big thing, which is the end of the actual film, Superman Returns. You fight Metallo in it as well, or Metallo, Metallo. Metallo, yeah. Potato, tomato. And there's a... And beings from another dimension.

Yeah. That's slightly more interesting than the film. I think it starts off where you fight Darkseid in space on a spaceship. Sounds really interesting. It does sound interesting, but... It's not. No, it's not. It's the worst.

And there's a cutscene in it that I remember I saw the trailer for and it was an all CGI cutscene so I should have known. And you fight Metallo and he's a giant building sized robot

and you fly through his kryptonite heart or whatever and tear it out. Something like that happens. And it looked incredible.

I'm an idiot because obviously it's an all CGI cutscene. But yeah, that is not a good game. I've said this before, the Captain America game on Xbox 360

and PS3 is good it's not amazing but it's solid really good fighting mechanics Batman Returns on the Atari Lynx is amazing

I know I'm aware yeah I don't know I think we could do a whole episode on this I think so yeah you got any others

well Prototype as you mentioned that's a superhero-esque game and infamous yeah I played it I liked it i didn't like it as much as everybody else did i think yeah yeah i preferred prototype me but yeah but that's not based on the comic book mason you've made a grave error in judgment but they made some very average tie in comics i'm sure so still counts there's also some really good game boy advanced spider-man games

the side scrollers the the official spider-Man movie game on the Game Boy Advance is really good. I never had a Game Boy Advance, but you look like you're stifling a yawn. No. No, tell me more about your Game Boy Advance games. I didn't have one. I used to download the emulator once. But yeah, they were really, really cool. Huh.

The one based on the movie's good, and there's some other ones that are really good. So yeah. Also, this isn't a video, a comic, but I love the dark forces Jedi night games. Yeah. Completely irrelevant. You got me. I did.

But this section doesn't have a theme song. So I can go in. No rules apply. So yeah. Thanks Joel. Thank you. We appreciate it. Andre A.

And a few people, others have asked me to, to share my goat hand solo ultimatum. Oh, sure. Because I promised that I would share it a few weeks back and then I never did. The bizarre thing about this is I never thought I would have a platform other than you for my goat hand solo ultimatum. Yes, because your avatar on Twitter is a goat hand solo. That's right, which is a joke only you get. Right.

Until now. Whoa. So, basically. Revelations a joke only you get. Right. Until now. Whoa. So, basically. Revelations. This is the ultimatum. Please hit me back on Twitter for an answer on this. I would like people's opinion as well. Yeah, so hit me and listen.

And why. Don't just tell us. Tell us why. Yeah. Basically, the ultimatum is, these are your two scenarios. You choose between these two things. Would you rather. Would you rather be Harrison Ford as he is now stuck in the Star Wars universe?

Bearing in mind Harrison Ford hates Star Wars and he hates talking about Star Wars. So he's stuck in this universe. People would occasionally mistake him for Han Solo and he doesn't understand anything because he's an angry old man. They're like, let's go get the grizzled orcs connected to the flagamagoos or whatever. That's all he hears. Right. And he just wants to drink himself to death in a bar. But people keep bothering him and asking him, you know, about stories about Han Solo.

But at the same time, he is in an amazing universe where anything can happen. Yes. And maybe he, you know. He embraces it. Embraces it, yeah. Or maybe he's killed in a bar fight. Well, one of those, yeah. But it's your call because you are...

You're Han Solo. I mean, you're Harrison Ford, so you can take that wherever you want. Bearing in mind, this isn't your personality. It's Harrison Ford. It's Harrison Ford's personality. So you are essentially Harrison Ford. That's option number one. Option number two, you are Han Solo, right?

You are Han Solo in our universe yep you have the ship you have the blaster you have the blaster you don't have Chewie let's say yep but you are a goat yes so you are goat Han Solo stuck in our universe right so you've got the personality you can fly all about the universe yep the swagger you got the swagger you got it all you got the personality you can fly all about the universe yep the swagger you got the swagger you got it all you got the charm you got ladies but you're a goat you got a little goat vest on you can operate your blaster with your little goat hands yeah but i think we made it so you can use the blaster it's not explained how but this you just can yeah so yeah what do you choose yeah it's a really good it's a really good question. Right? Yeah.

Do you think the goat is a standy-uppy goat? I think he's a standy-uppy goat. Okay, cool. Yeah. Fair enough. So yeah.

Please hit us back on Twitter. This is the most important question we've ever asked on this show. Except we could. Put us both into it

at Wikipedia Brown for Mason at Mr. Sunday Movies for me. Please let us know. And next week we'll tell you our answers. We'll tell it up and we'll see correct at Mr. Sunday movies for me please let us know and next week we'll tell us tell you how it's held it

up and we'll see how that goes yeah do you have an opinion actually we don't want to sway this do we no we don't I

wouldn't say either way yeah next week we know we'll try I still I think this is one of my best ultimatum simply because for me it's really

difficult to choose yeah so yeah yeah fuck either way mate that's right or it's awesome either way it's glorious difficult to choose. Yeah. So, yeah. You're fucked either way, mate. That's right. Or it's awesome either way. It's glorious either way. Yeah. Just quickly, Mason.

Yes. Before we go, before we leave this place. Yes. As you showed me on the Twitter. Mm-hmm. Or I saw it on the Twitter. But we saw it on Twitter. We've both seen things on Twitter.

We've seen some things on Twitter, mate. You know it. It's a Wild West out there. It sure is. Stephanie Hayden. Yes. Who just had a baby with Justin. A beautiful young baby boy.

Who was luckily born about a week or so before Captain America and the Winter Soldier. Relief. I know, right? Allowing Justin to go see Winter Soldier on his birthday. How terrific. So he has the gift of a newborn baby and the gift of a movie with a metal arm fighting a guy with a shield. In a sweet knife fight. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. So yeah, that all worked out for the best. Happy birthday. Do you think in life things work out for the best? Yeah, all the time. For everybody? Yeah. Alright.

Great. Alright Mason, that's the show for the week. You seem sad about that. I just think about... You just want the show to go on forever. Well you know what, I really enjoyed doing this show. It's good, isn't it? It's one of the highlights of my week, probably.

Yes. Is it yours? Yes. You can say no. It is, but it's quite early. Yeah, it is. Right now.

Yeah, it is. It's real early. Sorry, because I have a Bucks party today, as you're aware. That's right. God. There's going to be

some shenanigans. I know. Are you going to go go-karting? No, I hope not. Who goes to a 1pm Bucks party? This is going to go all night. It's one of these all-day things. Paintball?

No, it's just mostly at a pub. But it's one of these things, he's having two. He's having one now for people who can't go to Queensland, and in two weeks we're all going to Queensland. Right. And last time I went to Queensland, or the times I went, I nearly die every time. It's not good for you.

Because of snakes. Because of snakes, yeah. It's very unpleasant. So I'm not looking forward to that. So I've already recorded my Sunday video for tomorrow knowing how bad I'm going to be. Great. So yeah. Be prepared for your drunkenness, Mason.

I'm ready. Manage your time around it. Good idea. All right. Here we go. Shoutouts. If you want to email in for whatever, at weeklyplanetpod at Facebook, Gmail, Twitter. Mine is MrSundayMovies on Twitter. Yours is WikipediaBrown on Twitter.

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