The Weekly Planet - 287 Godzilla King Of The Monsters Is...

Episode Date: June 3, 2019

Join the 10 million who have tried Harry’s. Claim your trial offer by going toHARRYS.COM/WEEKLYPLANETGodzilla King Of The Monsters is here and fighting and cities and whatever. But also trailers for... Onward, The Kitchen and Rambo Last Blood, Venom VS Spider-Man, Robat Battinbat confirmed as Batman, changes to Dark Phoenix, Lion King posters, news on The New Gods and another thing I’ve forgotten. That’s for listening!0:00 The Start3:25 Robat Battinbat confirmed5:42 Dark Phoenix original ending13:13 Lion King posters15:01 Onward trailer18:24 Venom VS Spider-Man maybe I guess?21:13 Rambo Last Blood29:12 The Suicide Squad casting update32:01 The Kitchen trailer35:50 Tom King co-write New Gods movie45:01 Godzilla King Of The Monsters (spoilers 1:03:26 - 1:13:48)1:13:48 What We Reading/What We Gonna Read1:21:16 Letters It’s Time For LettersThe Weekly Planet YouTube Channel: https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-moviesThe Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetBuy Godzilla: King Of Monsters ► https://amzn.to/2naa2nM Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:55 This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. This episode is brought to you by Harry's Razors. Very nice. Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James Wilson and as Mr. Sunday with me as always is my co-host Nick Mason. That started out really smooth, like a smooth kind of radio DJ. Smooth new microphones, Mason. And then it got really exhausted really quickly.
Starting point is 00:01:36 You were like, hey, welcome to the late night. It's the night man over here in the radio station. I never sleep. I never sleep. Why wouldn't you let me leave this studio? I'll die here. I enjoy Nightman on radio. I used to when I listened to radio. Because I'm like, this guy's clearly losing his mind.
Starting point is 00:01:52 He doesn't want to do this shift, but he wants to be on radio. Yeah, right. I'm talking about the Spoon Man, maybe. There's a reference there. There's always a late night radio guy. There certainly is. Who's your Spoon Man? Right in.
Starting point is 00:02:04 Yeah, let us know. Oh, that'd certainly is. Who's your spoon man? Right in. Yeah, let us know. Oh, that'd be great. What's your regional spoon man? What's your late night regional radio guy? What's his gimmick? Who's calling in? We've got one in... Is he on his own?
Starting point is 00:02:17 Yes. He's always on his own, but sometimes he's got a producer that he throws to every once in a while who's clearly bored and on their phone. It'll be like, what do you think about this, Jessica? Silence.
Starting point is 00:02:27 Jessica. I think it's pretty good. It's fine. And if it was like 2003, they're just literally on a phone just chatting to somebody. Yeah, exactly. Before smartphones.
Starting point is 00:02:36 Let us know what their gimmick is as well. Who's your spoon man? Who's your spoon man? Exactly. There's a guy here, he lets people call in with their bad opinions. That's's great love it yeah yeah or is it a late night like like lot missed connections romance kind of thing we have one of those was it yeah yeah is he still doing what i maybe i don't know i bet you a hundred dollars he does should we pivot to like late night love
Starting point is 00:02:58 connections i think i'd be bad at that i'd be like just go get someone else mate that would just be the it was always people who were in jail or their partner was in jail. Did you notice that? Yeah. And you'd give some bad advice there. You'd be like, yeah, just leave him. I mean, leave your forwarding address to the guy in jail, of course, obviously. Don't do that part of it.
Starting point is 00:03:18 Yeah. What else have we got here? We'll do news because we talk movies and comics on TV shows. So we're trying new mics. We got these from Rode. Yeah, from road uh they sent them out for free we'll talk about it when we start filming because they'll be on a camera so people will be able to see them on a camera tell you what they look certainly look fancy they've got a whole sort of you've got a cage situation that's a that's a shock mount thing oh so you can actually slap it huh it'll still break but you can i wouldn't i
Starting point is 00:03:44 wouldn't let you slap the old ones these ones you can slap all you want but these ones I get maybe like one slap a month yeah probably he's wasted his slap
Starting point is 00:03:51 already that wasn't a slap that was a touch I didn't even hear that when you did that that's amazing and that rattled away yeah right
Starting point is 00:03:55 see this old mic stand that I had the one that just would repeatedly fall on me yeah these ones are really good
Starting point is 00:04:00 really stable anyway no one cares but people do care the lovely people at road care I'm sure they do they do do you. The lovely people at Rode care, I'm sure. They do, they do.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Do you think the lovely people at Rode... I just hit it with a baseball bat. There was no loss of sound at all. There might be a little bit of popping. We've got to figure that out at some point. I just called in an airstrike. Did you do... You shouldn't do that.
Starting point is 00:04:16 No, we're all going to die, but this microphone's going to pick up perfect sound. People are going mad, I think, for Robat Battenbat. That's true. He's confirmed as our Batman. Which is our nickname for, of course, Robert Pattinson. He's the new Batman. Why would he do this to himself?
Starting point is 00:04:33 He knows crazy fandom. And he's dug back into it. Oh, yeah, that's true, yeah. And it's a different group of fandom as well. So he's going to have one group of fandom coming after him forever. And now he's going to have Batman fans forever. And the Batman fans are also preloaded with hate for him. Yeah. one group of fandom coming after him forever and now he's gonna have batman fans and the batman fans are also they are they are pre-loaded with hate for him yeah first of all because it's not
Starting point is 00:04:50 affleck anymore and second of all i don't think anybody's that no i don't think so yeah and and and also because he's from a what is considered you know a lame teen franchise as well. But I'm trying to think, who's from a lame... George Clooney was in Roseanne. That's true. And he was Batman. Yep. Val Kilmer was the Saint, maybe after he was Batman or before. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Is that a teen franchise? Yeah, that's a teen franchise. Maybe in the 60s. The Saint, yeah. Yeah. Teen heartthrob, the Saint. Aren't they bringing that back? He solved crimes, but also he was in a little you know he's in a
Starting point is 00:05:25 monkey style boy band called the saints do you think i think people are generally pretty okay with this i think so too yeah i think also it kind of softened the blow a few weeks back when they were like this is what's happening yeah they even said this week that uh was in between him and nicholas holt like it was coming down to the wire yeah i'm glad they went this way i like nicholas holt but i i prefer this choice yeah so he's gonna be beast forever so obviously yeah exactly beast with a serum that's right yeah yeah he's such a method actor he's just walking through the street living his life as beast with a serum do you think you know if he did batman though he's just walking through the street living his life as Beast with a serum. Do you think if he did Batman though he's like, no, I'm Batman with a serum so I don't need
Starting point is 00:06:07 the costume. I don't need the costume at all. The serum replaces all my detective skills and all my fighting as well. Can we just say I've got a serum and something excretes from my skin and all the bad guys just fall over?
Starting point is 00:06:24 We keep getting trailers for Dark Phoenix. There's so many Dark Phoenix trailers. I saw another one earlier today before Godzilla. I stopped watching them. What did you think of the trailer? Well, just quickly, I'll just say Robat Battenbat will be in a trilogy apparently. Okay, sure. But anyway, do you want to do the Dark Phoenix news now?
Starting point is 00:06:39 Okay. Sure. Apparently the ending has been changed because it is similar to another recent superhero movie. I read the title of that article, but I was not aware of that. James McAvoy said this, I believe. James McAvoy. He's back. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:06:54 So, wait. Is this a second change to the ending? Because the first change of the ending, as we know, as we have discussed here on the podcast, was from the depths of outer space to a train. And are they changing it again because this was too similar to the train. Was from the depths of outer space to a train. Yes. And is this, are they changing it again? I think this might be it. Because this was too similar to the train?
Starting point is 00:07:07 Maybe this is it, yeah. Because the previous one was too similar to Captain Marvel's outer space battle. I assume so, yeah. And that wasn't a very good battle from my memory. It was just flying through spaceships and lasers. Yeah, well, exactly. It's kind of, yeah, it's spaceships and lasers
Starting point is 00:07:20 and flying through things. And that's in the universe I care about. So imagine it in the universe that I've forgotten for the most part. What a kind of downer to end on. Look, we're talking about it next week. So maybe it'll be great. Oh, is it out next week? It's out next week.
Starting point is 00:07:32 Good Lord, all right. Good Lord, indeed. It's wrapping up the X-Men film sort of new mutants. Apparently they're still doing reshoots on that. Apparently it's going to happen. But yeah, it's kind of a bit of a downer to kind of end on Dark Phoenix when they did Logan. Yeah. They turn the cross and it's an X But yeah, it's kind of a bit of a downer to kind of end on Dark Phoenix when they did a Logan. They turn the cross and it's an X.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Yeah, that's right. It's a metaphor. Yeah, exactly. And a literal representation. It's two things. What more do you need? No, I've never said I needed more than that. I didn't think you did.
Starting point is 00:07:59 But somebody pointed out this to me, and it's obvious in retrospect, but the Phoenix saga in the comic books went years. And Jean Grey was the Phoenix for years before she was Dark Phoenix. And twice they've just gone... What if we didn't? Just skipped that whole bit. Yeah. Well, actually, Matthew Vaughn was interviewed earlier this week.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Oh, no, sorry. Was it Matthew Vaughn? Maybe it was Matthew Vaughn. A man. A man or someone involved in First Class. A man with opinions. Yeah, maybe the guy who wrote First Class. But anyway, I think Matthew Vaughn's
Starting point is 00:08:25 idea was to do something in like he was sitting in first class and then he was going to do something in between then he was going
Starting point is 00:08:30 to do Days of Future Past and they're like no let's just do the Days of Future Past idea let's just go straight to that because we get the original cast back
Starting point is 00:08:35 and it would do really well which it did but maybe this universe would be in a better state if they kind of slowly
Starting point is 00:08:40 built to it instead of just went skip forward 10 years time travel every movie is a skip forward 10 years. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:48 They really locked themselves into that. They really did, yeah. Jump forward. These movies are set over 40 years. Yeah, they just... 40 years, 30 years. I don't know. 30 years, I think.
Starting point is 00:08:56 Do you think somebody got like a job lot on like period appropriate costumes of the last 50 years? I still can't really tell when any of them are set. No. Like it's still kind of vague. But it's also, I feel like it's very- I mean, Nixon was there, so I got it. Right.
Starting point is 00:09:12 It's also kind of like they just went, okay, what was the 80s like? High tops and- A mall. And leg warmers. And a mall. And the mall. Let's just throw all that in there.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Yeah. Do you reckon Quicksilver will do a bit where he runs very fast? Absolutely. The mall. And leg warmers. And the mall. And the mall. Let's just throw all that in there. Do you reckon Quicksilver will do a bit where he runs very fast? Absolutely. Doesn't he do a thing where he does it real fast and he rescues the astronauts? Isn't that his thing? There's another bit I think he does it with Phoenix, the Phoenix as well.
Starting point is 00:09:35 Dark Phoenix, sorry. Because we've skipped over just the Phoenix. So she was the Phoenix for years, was it? Yeah, in the comic books, sure. See, I've never gone back and read them because I bet I wouldn't like it. Well, it's Chris Claremont era, which is, again, the era where everybody was very verbose and there were a lot of thought bubbles and there was a lot of people explaining their powers as they used them.
Starting point is 00:09:57 Yes. Your favorite era? Yeah. Well, everyone's comic is someone's first comic. Yeah. What does that mean? That doesn't excuse anything. No, every comic- You mean every comic is somebody's first comic they've does that mean everyone that doesn't excuse anything every comic
Starting point is 00:10:05 you mean every comic is somebody's first comic they've written no I mean as in if you pick up a comic may I say yes it could be your first comic
Starting point is 00:10:12 it's not your first comic but it's somebody's first comic so if they pick up X-Men Phoenix 47 if they're like who's this guy with the lasers in his eyes oh I see what you're saying
Starting point is 00:10:21 I don't get it and he's like those are my optical glass and I use them to... It's a concussive force that I channel from another dimension or whatever version. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:10:30 Anyway. Okay, I get it. Anyway, if you like X-Men... I think it should go the absolute other way. Yeah. I tend to agree. Keep up, idiot.
Starting point is 00:10:39 That's what comics should be. Half the panels are blacked out and you've got to just know. It's just a panel of Scott Summers and then a black panel and then just a panel of a building in rubble. And you've got to join the dots. I'll take that. And if you don't get it, there's a 1-900 number you call
Starting point is 00:10:57 at the bottom of the page and you ring it up and it's like, you should know, idiot. Also, that costs you $7. That's what I'm saying. Do you want to move that a bit closer? I think it's moving a bit far out it's a bit heavy on its own careful all right there we go i think that's better i don't know i honestly don't know but that does sound better uh i had something to say about x-men i reflexively moved slightly back in my chair i
Starting point is 00:11:16 think i'm afraid of microphones you should be mason because what if that falls on you it's heavy it's high quality it'll knock you out or kill you even it could go right through your chest pin you to the floor but this this safety cage will keep it recording. No, no. That just means... Oh, yeah. That's true. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:11:29 You're right. If this microphone went through me, the safety cage would enable easy removal. Definitely. Yeah. Yeah. And I guess I eventually would. But we've got six. Just grab it from...
Starting point is 00:11:39 Yeah. I'll probably just grab another one. Yeah, nice. Good call. Get a fresh one. Get a fresh one. Yeah. This looks easy clean, though. Yeah, just like I easy clean the last ones all the time. Yeah, nice. Good call. Get a fresh one. Get a fresh one. Yeah. This looks easy clean, though.
Starting point is 00:11:45 Yeah, just like I easy clean the last ones all the time. Right? Yeah. You could rinse it off. Yeah, just under the hose in the garden. Yeah. We're doing X-Men The Last Stand for Caravan of Garbage on Tuesday. Oh, are we?
Starting point is 00:11:57 Yeah. Oh, we've done it already. Okay, right. It's odd because whenever we do one of those, because we did Godzilla last week, there's always a few comments that are like, well, you just copied so-and-so or whatever because it came out the day of or the day before.
Starting point is 00:12:10 I mean, I know people listening to this know, but we don't see somebody else do it and then go, yes. Knock it off real quick. Let's get this out there. They recorded weeks, sometimes months in advance. But anyway, I'm sure people listening to this know that that's how that works. Because this is a show for intellectuals.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Absolutely. Who's your spoon man? Lindsay Ellis did an Aladdin video recently. Oh, yeah, right. And we also did. And they came out the same day, I think. I definitely got comments like that. Look, that's a great video.
Starting point is 00:12:38 But a lot of the stuff was like, you copied this from Lindsay Ellis. First of all, no, I wouldn't do that. Because I'm not an idiot. And we're technically not proficient enough to knock out a video in a day. Yeah, that's right. And like all the information in that video is available online. Before we talked about it, I scrubbed through like hours of like Aladdin behind the scenes stuff. And you probably watched it and did some other stuff.
Starting point is 00:12:59 I watched Aladdin and I looked at my phone, sure. We all multitasked on that great video, yes. But Disney is an exciting time because they recently did have Aladdin, of course. I saw it again this week. Did you? It's a bloody delight.
Starting point is 00:13:10 I took my kid. Oh, yeah? Yeah. What did he think? He loved it. He really liked it. There you go. I can't believe I like that movie
Starting point is 00:13:16 as much as I do, but I think it's genuinely great. Yeah, I really do. And if you haven't seen it, you could. Yeah. But also, if you're not interested,
Starting point is 00:13:23 see a different thing. See a different, see whatever you want. That's fine uh what was his favorite character at the end he's like the lion king trailer like what do you think he's like lion king and i'm like that was like two hours ago in the trailer before the movie started his favorite thing about about aladdin was the lion king trailer oh bless him no he likes real contrarian he really is no he likes the animals whenever an animal shows up he's like that's a camel like i know i know it's a camel did he like i animals. Whenever an animal shows up, he's like, that's a camel. I'm like, I know. I know it's a camel.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Did he like Iago, even though Iago sucks in this version? Well, he did like Iago. And Claire liked Iago because Claire doesn't like CGI talking animals. Yeah, right. So she's like, well, it's closer to a real parrot. So yeah, I'll tell you that. And it was. It was shockingly close to a real parrot when you think about it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:00 Yeah. Even though I can threaten people and tell secrets. Well, I mean, a lot of animals can threaten people just non-verbally. That's a good point. But speaking of, Lion King, we got some character posters. We sure did. Boy, do they look like a bunch of lions. They do, it's true.
Starting point is 00:14:14 And look, you can tell them apart. But if you switch some of them, if you're like, this is Mufasa and this is Simba, I'd be like, yep, maybe. I guess, yeah. Scar, I get, because he's kind of a little bit more sinister. Yeah, right. I'm sure it'll be fine on the day or whatever. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:14:32 I think maybe we've been saying this since day one. You've got to put some character into these lines. Yeah. Maybe it'll be fine. Because they were all just sort of... I doubted Aladdin, and it's delightful. That's true, you did, yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:43 I mean, and people have even pointed out on the internet that there are a lot of different species of lion and a lot of kind of unusual looking lions. Yeah. And why not make each of the characters in a more unusual looking lion as opposed to just kind of a dusty beige looking lion? Yeah. You know? Give them a big old red mane like Simba had.
Starting point is 00:15:01 That's right. Anyway, it's out in a month, two months, ten months. Okay, cool. Great. I love it. Ten months. Oh it's out in A month Two months Ten months Okay cool great I love it Ten months Oh yeah ten months Two months
Starting point is 00:15:07 Yeah A month and a half A hundred thousand years So we'll see A hundred thousand years ago Depending on when you're listening to this That's a good point If you are listening to this
Starting point is 00:15:14 Who's your spoon man In a hundred thousand years from now Yeah right Who gets spooned directly in your brain Late at night you know Well maybe it's a Maybe you're sitting around A barren wasteland at a campfire
Starting point is 00:15:23 And there's just a guy yelling From an opposing village. That's probably true, yeah. Just clacking some bones together and yelling. Or everyone's a spoon man, you know? Oh, yeah, could be. Because we've reached that point where everybody's broadcasting. Yeah, that's a good point.
Starting point is 00:15:36 So maybe everybody's a spoon man. Wow, that's really good, Mason. It's just spoon men calling each other. Hey, what are you doing? Hey, what are you doing? I'm running. I'm being the spoon man. Late night hits, I suppose.
Starting point is 00:15:46 That's right. Let's play some Hall of Notes. I was just thinking about playing some Hall of Notes. Onward. Here's Man Eater. The Onward Trailer. Yes. Oh, Pixar's a new thing.
Starting point is 00:15:59 Imagine bright, but animated. Better. Maybe. What is the plot of this? Let me break this down for you. Okay. Tom animated. Better. Maybe. What is the plot of this? Let me break this down for you. Tom Holland. He's got a brother. It's Chris Pratt.
Starting point is 00:16:11 They're hot stars. They're hot Marvel stars. That's true. But one of them, there's a magic quest because it's in the universe where thousands of years prior there was magic. But what if that universe evolved into a bit of a mundane universe? Yeah, right, right, right. And the magic is gone, or is it?
Starting point is 00:16:26 Do they have wands? I like the feral unicorns. I enjoyed that a lot. Yeah, sure. You just watched this trailer? Yes. And? Looked fun.
Starting point is 00:16:32 I thought it was okay also. Okay, good. That's fine. See, that's the thing. Do you feel Pixar is losing some of its luster? I think because a lot of the team have jumped over to the general Disney animation. Oh, I see, right. So we've gotten some good stuff from both. Yeah, right. But I think they're more hit and team have jumped over to the general Disney animation. Oh, I see. So we've gotten some good stuff from both.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Yeah, right. But I think they're more hit and miss than they used to be. What do you think was the last one where you were like... Inside Out? I was just going to say Inside Out. Yeah, probably. There was one where it's like, this is a high concept, and they've really thought every element of it through,
Starting point is 00:16:59 and it's kind of wild, and it's a full, complete universe they've built. Whereas this one, it's kind of... And and you know, Incredibles 2 was a sequel. We're going Toy Story 4. Toy Story 4 was a sequel. They did Cars 3. Cars 3. And then this is kind of like Elves and that, you know. But I mean, we've been proven wrong a number of times.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Yeah, exactly. I didn't think I'd like Inside Out as an example. Yeah. And I did. Apparently they're leaning more towards, I like the message of Inside Out as well. Yeah, apparently they're leaning more towards, I like the message of Inside Out as well, but apparently they're leaning more away from sequels, like Toy Story 4, for example. But if you look at the Disney animation, because I think maybe, was Moana the last one? I don't know. That was great, and Frozen was great. I know people are like, yeah, Frozen sucks. Frozen's good. It's you that sucks.
Starting point is 00:17:47 Yeah, that's right. And before that, it was probably Bolt, which was John Travolta was a stunt dog. Oh, yeah, right. Which is no good. Okay. So Tangled was really like a turning point, I feel. I see, okay. And Moana's great, if you haven't seen Moana. Why is that just... Because Disney and Pixar are different companies.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Yeah, different divisions. Divisions. So why do they compete, I wonder? Or why... I think it's just more stuff is out. Okay, right. Big Hero 6, that was quite good. Yeah, yeah. Divisions. So why do they compete, I wonder? I think it's just more stuff is out. Okay, right. Big Hero 6, that was quite good. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:18:09 Zootopia was another one, which is Disney. Yeah. So they're not competing. They're just different brands, basically. Interesting, okay. Yeah. I wonder what... People out there must know then.
Starting point is 00:18:19 Why does one appear on regular Disney and one is appearing... Why is one Pixar? Divisions, Mason. Yeah, but why? Because the Pixar people think of the Pixar movies and the other guys think of the other movies. Oh, yeah, good idea. Okay. But yeah, some people are out, like John Lasseter's not with.
Starting point is 00:18:35 That's true. He got the boot for being all handsy. Yeah. And then he moved to another production company. Then Emma Thompson quit. She was like, I don't want to work under this guy or whatever. Good call. Yeah. So, hey, that's to work under this guy or whatever. Good call. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:45 So, hey, that's the movies, isn't it? It sure is. And the moral is don't get handsy, I guess. Yeah. I think that's pretty self-explanatory, I guess. Maybe Pixar should do a movie about it. Don't get handsy? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:56 Was it about a society of hands but one's a foot? No, I think it's a society of feet and one person's a hand. Yep. And then they beat him up. Kick him. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Okay. I'd say that. it's a society of feet and one person's a hand yep and then they beat him up kick him yeah yeah right yeah
Starting point is 00:19:07 okay I'd say that actually no they punch him with their fists and they're like hey wait a minute these are great they could call it
Starting point is 00:19:14 call it throwing hands yeah yeah there we go you want some Spider-Man or kick a man to death Spider-Man Spider-Man Far From Home 2
Starting point is 00:19:24 I've heard of it the sequel yes to the Spider-Man movie Spider-Man Far From Home 2. I've heard of it. The sequel. Yes. To the Spider-Man movie that's coming out in July. Apparently, they're not going to introduce Deadpool. That is a lie that was perpetuated by the fake news movie media. I've heard of the fake news. Movie media.
Starting point is 00:19:36 Yes. But they might introduce Venom. They might cram that character into the MCU. Interesting. Tom Hardy, Venom specifically, I wonder? I think so, yeah. Yeah, right. What do you think of that situation?
Starting point is 00:19:48 That is probably fine. But again, what's their rivalry, you know? Why do they both have spider-esque powers? Yeah. But, you know, I feel we've talked about this before, but I feel like the whole genesis of Venom as the ultimate rival of Spider-Man and who hates him the most more than anybody.
Starting point is 00:20:08 How are they going to do that? How are they going to manufacture that? They have to twist it up, change it around. Twist it up a little bit. I think it would be more interesting if they did Peter Parker goes to space and gets the space suit and did it that way. But obviously they can't do that anymore. Yeah, I mean could they?
Starting point is 00:20:24 Because in this universe we've not seen, we know Spider-Man's origin is very similar because there's a reference to he's got regrets and blah blah blah and you've got to use your powers responsibly or whatever so we know Uncle Ben was killed and blah blah maybe tied
Starting point is 00:20:39 in somehow. Maybe give us the origin again. I mean I don't want the origin again. I don't want that either. Why would you even say that? Don't put that in the editor. What are you doing with your life? Somebody's already started a petition to have me killed. It was me. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised
Starting point is 00:20:55 if we get a flashback of Uncle Ben or there's a reveal of who he is at some point. But also, you can't have the... because Venom's already been established, you can't have him be the criminal that killed Uncle Ben. No. As revenge because he hates Peter Parker and then Peter Parker becomes Spider-Man
Starting point is 00:21:11 and then he becomes Venom and then they hate one another. Do you reverse it where Peter Parker gets the Venom suit from Venom? Maybe. Oh, temporarily. I guess you could have him temporarily get it to make the Venom suit more Spider-Man-ish. Yes. That could totally work. Then Venom gets it back-Man-ish. Yes. That could totally work.
Starting point is 00:21:25 Then Venom gets it back and he's like, now I've got ultimate power. And then they have a big spindly spaghetti fight. Yes. Like Venom. That's what we want. Like the movie Venom. You watch Venom again since Venom came out?
Starting point is 00:21:35 No. You haven't got it on repeat? I haven't watched Venom again. On your iPod Nano? No. Just the audio? No. Oh, that's very intriguing.
Starting point is 00:21:42 Think about it, Mason. Very intriguing. Okay, very tempting. You could listen to the Eminem song at the end. Yeah. Venom. I haven't and I shan't. Agreed.
Starting point is 00:21:51 Because also the memorable scenes from that movie, specifically Tom Hardy jumping in a lobster tank are probably just on YouTube. Agreed. But you could watch that on your phone then. Just the audio. Oh, yeah. Not bad.
Starting point is 00:22:02 YouTube Red. Red, that's right. Rambo got a new trailer, Rambo Last blood yeah now if you remember the first blood rambo first blood was called first blood or was it just called rambo they've changed it around i can't remember also i've never seen it i've only seen four which rambos have you seen i've seen i think i've seen two three and four you haven't seen rambo chased by police in the woods no and he's small like he's a little guy i've seen stills of that because they make him he's definitely not the biggest man yeah yeah but now he's the biggest man in the world that's right yeah so this looks
Starting point is 00:22:34 very home alone but it's rambo yeah i don't know it kind of looks like those generic old man revenge films that we've been getting a thousand of every Every action star or former action star gets one where they're like, well, you thought I didn't have it, but I'm going to shoot some drugs. I think Stallone's had several, though. Yeah. But what's missing from this, though? They got the knife.
Starting point is 00:22:54 It's not in the jungle. I'm okay with that because we saw him go home in Rambo 4. What's missing? You tell me. Big knife. Bow and arrow, we got that. Big machine gun. I think we'll get that.
Starting point is 00:23:03 But what's missing? Think about it. The Rambo would normally have. Yes. Headband? No. Or maybe. But think, we got that. Big machine gun. I think we'll get that. But what's missing? Think about it. The Rambo would normally have. Yes. Headband? No. Or maybe. But think, you're close.
Starting point is 00:23:10 To a headband. Mullet? Exactly. Wow. Where's his mullet? What are we doing? Because it looks more generic Stallone. That's what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:23:17 That's why I was on about Bruce Willis, generic John McClane. John McClane. Give him the Willis peak back. I think those things are synonymous with each other. Yeah. Headband though.onymous with each other headband though you could put the headband on I guess I'd go okay I accept that
Starting point is 00:23:28 but yeah he's proposing a team up movie John McClane's widow's peak and Rambo's mullet teaming up I'm proposing that
Starting point is 00:23:36 I didn't think I was Pixar if you're listening you know what tie those together literally yeah that's right they're escaping from the barbershop
Starting point is 00:23:45 and they've been swept up. It's called swept up. And they get swept up and put in a bin but then crime happens. They have to escape the bin. And they don't want to work together. No. They're past the crime
Starting point is 00:23:58 because they're not on a human head. One's constantly worried and one's an action party man. And they don't want to work together but they got to and also Pixar if you're not interested you know who they're fighting
Starting point is 00:24:09 who the stubble on Lex Luthor's head it's been shaved off just the sides just the sides but Pixar have to pick it up because the other Disney division
Starting point is 00:24:17 will hear this and take it first they'll immediately take it all the talent's going to Disney so yeah but we did this trailer and also Disney owned Fox so they own they own John McClane's Widow's Pink.
Starting point is 00:24:27 Think about it. Yeah. Think about it. Anyway, this looks fine, I guess. Yeah. I liked four at the time. Yeah, right. It was pretty gory.
Starting point is 00:24:35 I'm assuming this one is. But yeah, to me, like I watch this and I think Rocky's gone mad because he doesn't have a mullet. That's true, yeah. And Rocky's never had a mullet. No. We know that. He looks like the most, exactly, he looks... Looks like bullet to the head or whatever.
Starting point is 00:24:51 Or the Expendables, I guess, the one where he didn't have the weird little goatee. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, what else happened in this trailer? Is he fighting MS-13, the world's most dangerous gang? Is that what it is? Maybe, something like that, yeah. But he's in a cave.
Starting point is 00:25:04 Is it a metaphor for immigrants? Like, I feel like this is a... Like, is this a movie where he's taken a turn and he's like... Not am I. I don't think so, because Rambo's not racist. Yeah. And I don't think Stallone is, as far as I can tell. So I think this would be, if it is that,
Starting point is 00:25:22 I just think that would just be a byproduct of him choosing this particular villain. Yeah, right. But then again, maybe it is that, I just think that would just be a byproduct of him choosing this particular villain. Yeah, right. But then again, maybe it is. Maybe it's just this about... Yeah, right. Yeah, because Stallone's not one of those lunatics on... You know, he's not like a Gary Busey or...
Starting point is 00:25:34 Is Gary Busey? I don't know what Gary Busey's like. Let's not defame anyone. You're right. John Voight. John Voight, there we go. He said some stuff, hasn't he, recently? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:42 But I don't think Stallone's like that. Okay, right, okay. It's kind of like they've threatened his town and they've... You can't threaten a man's town. You can't threaten a man's town. He just wants to live out the rest of his days. Maybe they pin him down a machete off his mullet and he's like, that's the last straw. Now I'm going to draw last blood.
Starting point is 00:25:58 Yeah. And they're like, good title. Because it ties back to some earlier adventures that you had. Yeah. Yeah. Remember that? He's like, yeah. Of course I of course i do he says yeah i remember all my adventures do you think i'm into the ptsd part of it uh because he got a bit of closure but i think being rambo what's the good parts of rambo kind of tie into statistically speaking he's killed a lot more dudes than a
Starting point is 00:26:23 regular soldier yeah i think he killed the most in four, though. Yeah. Because he got on top of that truck. Maybe three weeks. Because a lot of people in three. With Al-Qaeda.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Yeah, with Al-Qaeda. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's true. See, he just did it by accident. He didn't mean to do it. I don't think Salone intended that.
Starting point is 00:26:40 To team up with Osama bin Laden. Yeah, you're right. That's true. Well, they were freedom fighters back then. Exactly, yeah. Or one division of them. It's all. Well, they were freedom fighters back then. Exactly, yeah. Or one division
Starting point is 00:26:46 off of it. It's all splintered and whatever. I'm not exactly sure how it goes. But hey, that was the 80s, wasn't it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Yeah. Anything else? About Rambo. I mean, we'll see it. Yeah, we'll definitely see it. Yeah. Do you think he's
Starting point is 00:26:58 going to shoot a rocket at a helicopter? Yeah. Nice. Yep. Nice. Or he'll put a
Starting point is 00:27:03 chain around it and he'll hook it and then it can't get away. And it'll crash into a barn. Yeah. And it'll be like, last blood. Yeah. Or he'll chain it to something and then it can't get away and then it'll get a big knife on a stick. He'll poke.
Starting point is 00:27:17 He'll poke all the floor. Yeah, through the floor. Or just the open door, he'll poke them all. The boss is always getting away in a helicopter, and the boss is in a suit. Yeah, right. And he's got a special silver gun that he occasionally uses. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:27:29 Sure. And you think he's going to get away, but Rambo's got a knife on his stick. Rambo's got a knife on his stick. I was trying to think of the word javelin. I'm like, knife on a stick. You know one of those. Knife on a stick is funnier.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Yeah. Why would Rambo have a javelin? Like, he's not an athlete. He wouldn't have a javelin. Of course he would have a javelin. He wouldn't have a knife on a's not an athlete He wouldn't have a jab Of course he would have a jab He wouldn't have a knife on a stick Yeah He wouldn't even fashion a knife on a stick
Starting point is 00:27:48 Like there'll be an earlier scene Where he's just on his front porch Like whittling a long stick Yeah And the neighbour will come by And be like Rambo why are you always whittling those long sticks? And he's just like
Starting point is 00:27:57 Helps keep me calm Yeah Those long sticks Exactly And the laddie will tape a knife to a stick And he'll stab some people in a helicopter Because he knew war was coming That's right
Starting point is 00:28:04 Because war's always coming for him. That's right. He remembers his adventures. Yeah. Anyway, good on him. This is probably the last one. Unless they do Son of Rambo, like, you know. Well, I thought Creed was going to be the last Rambo movie.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Yeah. But then they created it again. The last Rambo movie? No, the last Rocky movie. You misspoke, Mason. You fool. I'm such a fool. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:22 You are. Let's jump over to some comic book movie news, though. We've also reached the era where there'd never be a Rambo v. Rocky movie. You know what I mean? Do you think there was a time like the late 80s? I reckon the late 80s, they would have, like, if it was short on cash and they were like, listen. How would they have done it in the 80s, though?
Starting point is 00:28:41 They did Double Impact. That was the 90s. That was the 90s, yeah. And even then. And what are they fighting about i don't yeah i think i think it's more likely in the night if they couldn't find a reason to fight yeah you're right of course but i think also one's a killer and one's a boxer they're not the same but but that's the point isn't it i guess yeah maybe rambo and rocky yeah you know i think if you caught him in the 90s, when you're at kind of a low point, around Driven, maybe?
Starting point is 00:29:07 Yeah, right. Or was that the early 2000s or whatever? Like, you get him then, he might do it. Like, if the studio came to it. But right now, because we're at the point where Rocky and Rambo are both, they've sort of, they've come out of ridiculous out of the other side.
Starting point is 00:29:20 Yeah. And now they're kind of more realistic. Yeah. Like, if Rambo 4 had come out, like, if they'd immediately done Rambo 4 straight after Rambo 3, that scene at the end of Rambo 4 where he's, like, machine gunning people
Starting point is 00:29:31 on the top of the truck, that'd be him doing it individually. Yeah, absolutely. He'd be running around just machine gunning with his little M16 or whatever. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Good stuff.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Or a bow and arrow. Oh, yeah, we've got to get the bow and arrow. Or a knife on a stick. A knife on a stick. Very good. Comic book news. Joel Kinnaman they'd be like get out of his way
Starting point is 00:29:49 he's got it up and they're running around inside the helicopter you know the little cabin of the helicopter there's no finesse to it as well it's just jabbing
Starting point is 00:29:55 exactly yeah and the wind's taking the helicopter a bit and it's swaying about but at the same time the stick's a bit wobbly yeah that's right
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Starting point is 00:31:12 Register today at sunrisechallenge.ca. That's sunrisechallenge.ca. Joel Kinnaman will return as Rick Flagg for the Suicide Squad. That's not a reboot. Cool! So everyone's back, it would seem. Idris Elba was also apparently going to be Bronze Tiger. Okay.
Starting point is 00:31:29 Who was Michael J. White, I believe, in Arrow. Yes, he was, yeah. Yeah. Idris Elba not known for his martial arts. That's true. Michael J. White known for all the martial arts. That's right. But Idris Elba's fighting The Rock in an upcoming movie.
Starting point is 00:31:41 That's true. Yeah. So that's fine. You can make anybody do anything for money. That's the Hollywood motto. You that's fine. You can make anybody do anything for money. That's the Hollywood motto. You can make anyone do anything dot, dot, dot for money. For money. That's right.
Starting point is 00:31:50 Yeah. So, okay. Yeah. All right. Well, they need some star power, I guess. Yeah. So. Nothing else for me on that one.
Starting point is 00:31:58 There you go. Yeah. Michael J. White famously spawned. Mm. Mm-hmm. Spawns in the new Mortal Kombat. Oh, yeah. that's right. And they got the actor who played Shang Tsung, I believe.
Starting point is 00:32:10 Oh, did they? From Mortal Kombat 1. Oh, he's the original Shang Tsung. He's back. Yeah, he's back. Interesting. Yeah, so there you go. But do you think they'd ever do an old man like reteam?
Starting point is 00:32:19 They get John McClane. They get Rambo. They get the dude from Commando, Jeffrey Commando. John Matrix. I don't give a fuck, Mason. No, normally I would say, I agree, but Schwarzenegger's name in that movie is John Matrix.
Starting point is 00:32:36 And it's never explained why a man would have a surname that no one would ever have. He changed it for Hollywood purposes. He changed it. Hollywood can Hollywood purposes. For Hollywood purposes. He changed it... Hollywood can make anybody do anything for money. He changed it to stay undercover. Yes.
Starting point is 00:32:50 He'd retired from the Commando game. But you'd look at him and you'd look at that name and go, huh. Yeah. Something's not right there. This is suspicious for a reason I cannot quite articulate currently, but it is very suspicious. But if you did him and maybe you got one of Kurt Russell's characters, probably Big Trouble, I guess, would probably be the one you get. And throw in a Marty McFly, because why not?
Starting point is 00:33:13 Well, how are you going to get them all together? How are you going to get them all together? Do you think that all fit in the DeLorean? No. I don't think that would ever. But they'd all be arguing about who could drive. I feel The Expendables was the experiment to see if that sort of thing would work. But maybe that's why it didn't really work.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Because people don't want to see those actors. They want to see the characters. They want to see the characters they play. But I know they're all owned by different people or whatever, so it's probably not a viable thing. Also, do I really want to see it? I don't know. Yeah, right?
Starting point is 00:33:40 Do I want to see Jeffrey Commando? No, look, I think it would definitely happen. It could happen in comic book form at some point. I mean, we've had big trouble in Little China Meets Escape from New York. You'd do Plissken, wouldn't you? Probably, that would be the one you'd do. But again, it's the future. But you've got the DeLorean.
Starting point is 00:33:54 You've got the DeLorean. Don't even worry about it. We've thought of everything. We're veering dangerously close to my least favourite thing, which is weird mashups on T-shirts. Oh, yeah, that's true. Culture mashups. And I feel being confronted by one of those in real life would be too much for me.
Starting point is 00:34:06 You're probably not wrong. I got a trailer for The Kitchen, which is a Vertigo property. I've not seen or heard of this ever. Me neither. It's from 2015. I looked it up. Trailer looks good though. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:17 Melissa McCarthy. Elizabeth Moss. Others. Yes, thank you. Scientology Zone. Oh yeah. Sorry. And Boo.
Starting point is 00:34:24 Yes. And Tiffany Hiddich. Yes. Not Scientology Zone. No Scientology, yeah. Sorry. And Boo. Yes. And Tiffany Hiddich. Yes. Not Scientology's own. No Scientology affiliation as far as I know. Yes. And that's good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:31 Tiffany Hiddich is all about making as much money in movies as possible at the moment. She's like, look, I know I've got a window here. Oh, she said this. I'm just going to do everything. Right. Or is this an assumption you've made? No, no. She said that.
Starting point is 00:34:42 I think good. Also, she's done good stuff as well. And this also looks really good. And again, in Hollywood, how do you know if anything's good or not? It's hard to tell. I don't know. I feel. But this looks pretty tight, Mason, in a cool way.
Starting point is 00:34:53 You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. Can there be in a bad way? Oh, yeah, if you're tight with money. It doesn't look tight with money. No. No, it looks good with money. Yeah, with money.
Starting point is 00:35:02 And people also generally seem to be receiving it well, which is also good. Money. I always receive it well. Yes. Have you ever not? No. What if it's less money than you anticipated? I'll smile.
Starting point is 00:35:13 Yeah. You know, but with that gritted teeth. Thanks, Gran. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, I hear you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:21 Yeah. When do you stop getting money from like relatives? What age do you think? When they die. Really? Really? So you got them up, you got like right up to... you. Yeah. When do you stop getting money from relatives? What age do you think? When they die. Really? So you got them up, you got like right up to... Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:30 I think, because my grandparents are all dead now, which is good for me, obviously. What? No, it's not really. I don't believe that. One died in like 1982 before I was born. One died in the 90s. The others died at different times also. All right.
Starting point is 00:35:45 Who's your spoon man? People out there. Sure. When did your grandparents stop giving you money? Or is it one of those situations where like when they were a kid, when you were like 10, they gave you 10 bucks. Yeah. And it's been 10 bucks.
Starting point is 00:35:56 It's been 10 bucks. Is that what happened to you? And you're 35 now and it's still 10 bucks. Is that what happened to you? No. No. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:01 Fair enough. Interesting. Yeah. Who's your spoon man? That's got to be the hashtag. Yeah. Who's your spoon man? That's got to be the hashtag. Yeah, who's your spoon man? Yeah. Anyway, The Kitchen looks good.
Starting point is 00:36:09 We'll see it and then we'll know what it's like. I like also, I think it's good, this is what we probably both wanted, take smaller, weirder comics. Not even weirder, just different stories. Yeah, right. Because then people also get a different idea of what comic book movies are. So they're not just tied into The Avengers. So i think that's great i think this is really good especially if it's good is it based on real life events i wonder that's a good question i'm gonna
Starting point is 00:36:31 look it up that's a question for another day oh what makes no look it up that's okay good yeah i might read this though i might add it to my um oh yeah list of things to watch and read and do and say you have a list of things to say? Yeah. It's mostly insults. I bet. People I don't like. The Kitchen, American cooking show.
Starting point is 00:36:50 Looking for recipes and meal tips from an all-star lineup of Food Network hosts? Then The Kitchen is for you. Sounds good. Sunny Anderson's on there. Who's that? Don't know. Season 21, episode 6, dishes for dad. That's you.
Starting point is 00:37:04 I do do a lot of dishes. Season 21, episode 4, picnic perfect. Dad. That's you. I do do a lot of dishes. Season 21, episode 4, Picnic Perfect. That's probably a different thing, actually. Do you think? Yeah. Kitchen 2019 film. Here we go. It's out in August as well.
Starting point is 00:37:14 It's really close. There you go. It just says based on the Vertigo comic. Cool. Common's in it. Surprise comic. Should I have left that? You shouldn't have told us that.
Starting point is 00:37:24 Maybe it's in the trailer and I didn't yeah right right the person who actually directed this Andrea Berloff I feel this counts as a surprise common appearance definitely
Starting point is 00:37:35 yeah I think it's okay it's alright as long as he surprises you with all he's in this I think it's okay she's written she wrote Straight Outta Compton and Bloodfather
Starting point is 00:37:43 Sleepless which I don't know but this is her first writer and director gig, so that's really good. Cool, I like it. Common's in Terminator Salvation and the game, but in the game he plays a different character, I believe, from the movie. That might not be true.
Starting point is 00:37:56 Huh. Terrible game. Oh, the game, right. The game. The game. Yeah. He's in the game. Yeah, he's in the game, the book.
Starting point is 00:38:04 Oh, what? Yeah. Do you need help picking up women? Every, every... Do you need help picking up women? No. Yes or no? No, never.
Starting point is 00:38:10 Then the game's for you, Mason. Oh, terrific. Yeah. I like to think that the game is in the book. Like at the end of every chapter, it's just a quote from him and it's like, this is bad advice. Don't do this. Don't do it.
Starting point is 00:38:22 Why do you keep quoting me? The guy who wrote the game has come out against the game. He's the agent of the game. He's like, this will make you miserable. Oh, is that Roosh is his name or something? Maybe. Because there's a guy called, I think his name's Roosh. Oh, he's one of those pickup artists.
Starting point is 00:38:35 Pickup artists. And he became a Christian recently. He's like, don't have sex before marriage. Thanks, Roosh. Also, you've never known what you're doing. Yeah, right. So maybe nobody listened. Why would anyone take your advice now?
Starting point is 00:38:46 Now that it's different but also boring now, why would anyone do it? I've often... Also, people should do what they want. Yeah, right. Before, after, during, whatever. Whatever makes you happy. We may have talked about this in real life or on the podcast,
Starting point is 00:39:02 but the... Just be safe. Yeah, the game... Just be safe. Yeah. Make good choices. Apparently that book is really well written. Like not the rules for the whatever. But like the story around like he went into the world of pick up art. Because he's like a Rolling Stone writer or whatever.
Starting point is 00:39:20 And he went in and it turned out because he knows all these famous people. And he's like, you know, in the world of rock and roll. He became like a rock star in this world. Apparently it's a really interesting read. But I can't get it could never i would never buy it i would watch like a social network version of that story yeah as long as they make fun of him a lot neil strauss is his name okay but i couldn't i couldn't buy it in a shop no absolutely not i feel bad about buying it on kindle because if you like the game you'll like this and I'll be like no no I wouldn't yeah yeah so
Starting point is 00:39:46 anyway there you go anyway is it based on anything doesn't seem to be we never found out we never know we never will it's based on Common's life story
Starting point is 00:39:54 good lord surprised Common appearance yeah Tom King will co-write The New Gods with Ava DuVernay yeah so Tom King
Starting point is 00:40:02 he as I think we've discussed recently, he wrote a very well-regarded version of The Vision and Mr. Miracle. That's right. And a less well-regarded Batman run. Some of Batman. Some of Batman. Some people like it, some people don't.
Starting point is 00:40:15 A lot of people liked it initially, I think, and then dropped off a little. That's probably where I was at. Yeah, right. But I like a lot of his stuff. And people are like, well, all the new gods are going to be depressed. And I'm like, well, probably not. But I mean, you know, I enjoy the fact, like he really had a handle on, I think, the kind of the Jack Kirby fourth world weird parallel realm situation. So I think that's fun.
Starting point is 00:40:38 And as someone who knows very little about any of that stuff. Yeah, right. I don't want any of that. Okay, right. I want interesting characters. Sure, right. And it's set in that universe. Yeah, right. I don't want any of that. Okay, right. I want interesting characters. Sure, right. And it's set in that universe, but I get it. Like I'm reading and I'm like, I know roughly who that is
Starting point is 00:40:51 or I don't know who that is at all and it doesn't matter. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. I guess also this is going to be interesting because this will probably go up against like The Eternals. That'll be the comparison. That's true, yeah. I imagine, but I think this is the one I'm kind of more interested in saying.
Starting point is 00:41:03 But I think this is the one I'm kind of more interested in saying. I am. I think if they go with what is apparently the DC strategy now, which is like don't connect it too heavily with the existing DC universe. If they're like, you know what, this is a whole new world. Don't you dare close your eyes. If they just say, okay. Oh, it's Darkseid.
Starting point is 00:41:25 Start running. If they just go, okay, here's a whole different dimension. Everything about this is new. We're not going to connect it to that weird scene in the past with the Green Lanterns and Zeus or whatever. We're not going to connect it to the, what's his name again? Mr. Motherbox? What was his name jeffrey mother box oh yeah jeffrey john matrix uh yes cyborg no the other big guy that everybody
Starting point is 00:41:50 hated oh horns oh uh the dumbass yeah steppenwolf yes thank you there we go god yeah right just thinking my brain just shut down when you brought that up yeah and that's one of my favorite movies oh yeah right but i think yeah look and, and I think maybe Tom King is there to kind of like connect the wild concepts to the real world. Yes. Because I think that was a good – what I like about the Mr. Miracle run that he did is it's not 100% true to like the Mr. Miracle character, you know, we've seen prior to this, but kind of i don't care yeah well exactly but i think it kind of it kind of i think it meshed
Starting point is 00:42:30 really well this idea of these people that are superheroes and like super soldiers in this gods this war of gods but they also have lives on earth and they prefer the lives on earth yes but they've also got this weird job to do and they've all got weird relatives they're gonna yeah right i think that was kind of fun. There's always a trial against them or something or whatever. I'd be interested to know how that operates in the cinematic universe. Is that how they're going to do it? Is it going to be like a rom-com,
Starting point is 00:42:58 but also they're fighting gods? That would be fun. I would also like to see it culminate in the Darkseid confrontation, which the comic does. Yes. And it's spectacular. And also, they didn't use Darkseid, so they can do that. That's true, yeah.
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Starting point is 00:47:13 Did you see it? It's called Godzilla King of the Monsters. Saw it like an hour ago, yeah. Wow, that was recent. Very recent. This is fresh. Not for me. I saw it earlier in the week.
Starting point is 00:47:22 So less fresh. Yeah. I saw it in the cinema. It was just old dudes about my age. Oh, yes. Everyone was sitting alone. It was great. No, there was a guy next to me, a few seats down.
Starting point is 00:47:35 He had a light-up watch, you know, like a digital watch. Like an iPhone? Yeah, one of those, but it was a round one. And every time he lifted his arm up. It probably sounds like gear. Yeah, probably. Every time he lifted his arm up, it went on in my direct line of sight. So I moved behind him, and then he just started looking at his phone eye level.
Starting point is 00:47:52 Incredible. And it's really like... And I would never, but I just want to slap him in the back of his fucking head. What are you doing? What are you even doing? At least have it down low. Yeah, right. What a moron.
Starting point is 00:48:03 I feel like something's happened, and people don't care anymore. Absolutely. Not this one, but the last couple of movies I've seen. Did we talk about this? I've just seen couples on their phones. Yeah. It's groups of couples just... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:18 Sexting. What's going on? Are they texting each other? No. What's happening? They're having affairs. Oh, wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:25 That's where they go to... In the affairs. Oh, wow. Yeah. That's where they go to. In the cinema. Yeah, definitely. Wow. Incredible. Yeah. No, it's definitely. But I think also it would probably always happen if smartphones existed like 30 years ago, 50 years ago.
Starting point is 00:48:38 I think this would just be a thing. Like I think people, if they could, would read newspapers in there like 50 years ago if it wasn't dark. Oh, that's a thing. Maybe we could bring that back. Remember those clip-on book lights? You slide it down like a bookmark and then you turn on a little... It's like a full-size lamp. I think I've got one of those somewhere. All right, let's do it.
Starting point is 00:48:54 Let's bring that back. Next time I see somebody texting in the cinema, I'm just going to whip out the newspaper, put on the book lamp. Put on my headlamp as well. Extra dark in here. There we go. There on my headlamp as well. Oh, but extra dark in here. Click. There we go. There we go.
Starting point is 00:49:07 You can see well. Anyway, this movie is opening lower than expected. It was supposed to hit like 65 million in the US. It's going to hit about 51. But that being said, Kong opened lower than Godzilla 2014 and had legs and it ended up doing quite well over time, especially international.
Starting point is 00:49:22 And this is getting some pretty good user scores, general public scores and reactions aside from critics. What did you think the story was, I guess? Godzilla's back and he's hopping mad. Other monsters also. They're also hopping mad. They're even more hopping mad than Godzilla. If anything, Godzilla, he's done being hopping mad and he's kind of taken a little break.
Starting point is 00:49:44 But then all these other monsters come out and they're hopping mad. So he's like, well, I better... Now I'm hopping mad because they being hopping mad yeah and he's kind of taking a little break but then all these other monsters come out and they're hopping mad yeah so he's like well I better now I'm hopping mad because they're hopping mad
Starting point is 00:49:50 which ones are against him which ones aren't that's right most don't like him yep that's correct yes one that's like a gorilla with tusks
Starting point is 00:49:55 I guess also oh yeah Tusky McGillard Tusky McGillard yeah how did he get there who knows who knows
Starting point is 00:50:02 I didn't like does he swim with the tusks? He must. You didn't like this movie? Didn't like it. Interesting. I thought it was quite dull for a lot of it. There is some dullness.
Starting point is 00:50:12 There's a lot of dullness. And darkness. There is dullness and darkness. I quite enjoy it. You know what I enjoyed? I enjoyed that it's put its toe into a bit more weirdness. The last one was kind of like, what if the real world but Godzilla?
Starting point is 00:50:27 And in this one, they're like, what if Monarch, you know, the... Are they broke or not? Are they not broke? They keep being like, we're running out of funding every movie. We don't have enough funding. You've got like a thousand boardrooms
Starting point is 00:50:38 all around the world. You've got a plane. They've got a flying wing. They've got like a helicarrier of their own now. It's ridiculous. How big is that plane? Well, they blew all the money on the plane. No, because they've got stations flying wing They've got like a helicarrier It's ridiculous How big is that plane? Well they blew all the money on the plane No because they've got
Starting point is 00:50:47 They've got stations all over the world They've just got walls of ice Keeping monsters in there or whatever Scaffolding They didn't have to pay for the ice Control rooms They didn't have to go to 7-Eleven They would have had to chip away the wall of ice
Starting point is 00:50:57 To make it smooth Are you telling me they got there And that wall of ice was smooth? I'm saying they're poor now They've run out of money They're like Well now we've done all this stuff. Now we're broke.
Starting point is 00:51:07 We better have a bikini car wash. Do you think they would be broke off the back of 2014's Godzilla? Did they have to pay for all the cities that were destroyed? I think they just left them. Yeah. So that's also interesting. In this, it seems to suggest that all the cities that were destroyed in the previous Godzilla, they haven't rebuilt them.
Starting point is 00:51:26 They've just like radioactive vegetation has grown over them. Yeah. Yeah. That's good, I guess. But anyway, they've got a big flying... What I enjoyed about this is they were like, okay, there's a big flying wing and there's a whole bunch of just monsters.
Starting point is 00:51:40 Where are they from? Who knows? And they're just going to fight each other. Yeah. But all right, you're right. There is some dullness in between between i would say there's even some dullness in a lot of the fights some like a lot of the monster reveals are good yeah right and i i like seeing the monsters there's a lot of cutting away to humans that are less interesting than the ones in godzilla 2014 which i which is quite quite a quite a spectacular yeah but i'm a feat that that being said like there were less characters in 2014, which I think worked.
Starting point is 00:52:09 I watched that maybe six months ago, and I like it. I like that movie a lot, and I think it culminates to a really good ending. And I don't think you could have done that again to hold Godzilla off to the end. That would be a huge mistake. But I think the stuff they did with Godzilla in that movie and in the battles is better than everything in this movie. Give me an example.
Starting point is 00:52:28 When he tears that head off and he's like, breaths down, it's a bloody thing and whatever. But he can't do that every time. No, well, he does a different thing, doesn't he? That signature move would be a little bit boring, yeah. The introduction of Rodan I thought was quite good. I thought that was a good reveal. We're going to do spoilers later. There'll be some spoilers, I guess, like minor ones, but that's monsters fighting. I thought that was a good reveal. We're going to do spoilers later.
Starting point is 00:52:45 There'll be some spoilers, I guess, like minor ones, but it's monsters fighting. You get it. Well, exactly. There's nothing really... Godzilla's going to win. Yes. I don't think that's a spoiler.
Starting point is 00:52:54 Or... Yes. I mean, it does. Yeah, that's true. Hey, they say it's himself in the credits. They do, it's true. There you go, it's definitive. That being said, I'm still going to keep baiting people with that forever.
Starting point is 00:53:01 By saying Godzilla's a girl. Yeah. Could be a girl. Could be a girl. Yeah. You know, an Italian saying Godzilla's a girl. Yeah. Could be a girl. Could be a girl. Yeah. You know, an Italian girl. Definitely a girl. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:53:09 So, yeah. So, but I think they did some interesting stuff with the, like, there's King Ghidorah, which is a good nemesis because it's got different powers and abilities. Yeah, right. I like it when it's like three heads can do different things and they've got different, like, that's not the one brain. It's interesting. I was curious throughout this whole movie of like, one, how does King Ghidorah operate?
Starting point is 00:53:33 And also, is he smart? Or is he just a dumb animal? One of them is. The one in the middle. Yeah, the one in the middle is smart. Yeah, okay. Yeah. Right, I didn't get a sense of that.
Starting point is 00:53:42 I got the sense of that role. Again, at one point they're called Larry, Moe and Curly. And I'm like, they are kind of three stoogey-ish. Yeah. They can just shoot lightning. Yeah, okay. Yeah. Right, I didn't get a sense of that. I got the sense that we're all... Again, at one point they're called Larry, Moe and Curly and I'm like, they are kind of three Stoogie-ish. Yeah, they can just shoot lightning. Yeah, right. Make you disintegrate. Exactly, that's what the three Stooges would have been like if they could shoot lightning out of their faces.
Starting point is 00:53:55 Yeah, absolutely. Annoying. Annoying. More annoying. Yeah. But then you've got some other... Who do you prefer, the Stooges or the Marx Brothers? Don't know either very well.
Starting point is 00:54:02 Okay, all right. You've got to pick one. No. Okay, wow. What do you think of that?ooges or the Marx Brothers? Don't know either very well. Okay, all right. You've got to pick one. No. Okay, wow. What do you think of that? Wow. I guess I've heard... You flummoxed me.
Starting point is 00:54:11 Well, isn't... Stooges are probably more well-known, but the Marx Brothers are probably... Is it a better class of comedy? I think it's a better class of comedy, yeah. There you go. Precisely. Having said nothing...
Starting point is 00:54:23 But you get it. I don't. I mean, Groucho has that cigar, so, you know. Yeah, you know what he's up to. That's classy, yeah. So, no, I didn't think... The Stooges just pick up old cigarettes off the ground. Well, that was the era of that, wasn't it?
Starting point is 00:54:36 Yeah. So, what did you like about this? Did you like any of the human character stuff? Not especially. There's some character turns that were... In the trailers? Were they? Yeah, one of them in particular.
Starting point is 00:54:51 Oh, was it? Talk about spoilers. Okay, right. Were they... Like there's a family dynamic, but... Yeah. Did you like the guy from the West Wing? No.
Starting point is 00:54:59 Oh, yeah, he's good. I like him. Yeah, he's good. Yeah, I like everybody in this, but like Thomas Middleditch, who I like a lot. Yes. He's a great comedic actor and a great improver yeah the the one kind of joke of him is like someone says the name of godora and he goes gonorrhea oh yeah what is that who's thomas so he's the guy
Starting point is 00:55:14 he's like one he's like one of the tech analysts kind of character like he's the he's in silicon valley he's a real pencil but he's done he's got if you ever seen like jake and amir from college um he's does a character called doobs okay he's very funny if you ever seen like Jake and Amir from College Ume? He does a character called Doobz. Okay. He's very funny. If you just watch those episodes. So you would have preferred this movie if Doobz were in it? 100%. Does Doobz have a catchphrase that he could use in this movie? Yeah, something about Amir's spindly little legs or his dad's spindly legs.
Starting point is 00:55:38 Oh, he could have been like, look at this. Okay, would this movie have improved if one of the monsters had come, like one of the spider monsters or something had come in and you'd be like, look at this dude's spiddly little legs. Would you have stood up and clapped? Yes,
Starting point is 00:55:48 I would have been. That's a dude's reference. But they use him to stand in a room, like the various boardrooms that we're stuck in for, and they're all different. Yeah. Like it opens with him in a boardroom
Starting point is 00:55:59 and there's just a screen and he's just like, so there's a lot of monsters and if you look at this, if you look at this screen. I haven't seen a lot of original Godzilla movies. Yeah, it's all that. But there's a lot of,, so there's a lot of monsters. And if you look at this screen. I haven't seen a lot of original Godzilla movies. Yeah, it's all that. But I feel there's a lot of boardrooms and people because it's just a budgetary issue, I guess.
Starting point is 00:56:12 But I mean, if they were just. It's not budgetary now, though, is it? No, of course not. But I mean, what would have improved this? Look at Kong Skull Island. I watched that the other day. A lot of those characters are not great. Don't get me wrong.
Starting point is 00:56:24 But then you get like john c riley and they just go just do whatever and it really like he's the one character that really shines through and you care about and he gets a great ending but at the end of this they're like you got your family back or whatever and i'm like fuck him and fuck this i don't care about any of these because we have we have kyle friday nights lights who i like as well yeah he's a family man yeah but he's uh he's off being a nature photographer or whatever. He gets a very Nick Totopoulos from Godzilla 1998 introduction. Great reference.
Starting point is 00:56:51 They just show up at his job and they're like, we've got something for you to do. And he's like, well, I want a photograph. You're scared away the wolves. The wolves. And anyway, he's been separated from his family. Yeah. And the wife is off doing stuff with Monarch.
Starting point is 00:57:07 Yeah, working on a dais. No, she's working on a MacGuffin of sorts. Yes. Which is sort of a box that, it's like a homing beacon for big monsters. Yeah, you can make it, you can say stuff to it. Think the box from Rampage, the movie Rampage. Oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:22 Yeah. Because that's what you need, I guess, for this sort of movies. You can't... If they're just smashing each other willy-nilly, I guess the humans feel kind of irrelevant. Yes. So you need some sort of... You need a device that's like, well, we have some sway in this.
Starting point is 00:57:39 Yeah. These monsters destroying the planet. Absolutely. Yeah. But really, they don't really do much. And they reference Ken Watanabe. They're like, well, we know we should do what he says. Absolutely. Yeah. But really, they don't really do much. And they reference Ken Watanabe. They're like, well, we know we should do what he says. Let them fight.
Starting point is 00:57:49 But again, you're not letting them fight. They're just going to fight. Yeah. It's true. I mean, I guess you've got a box that leads them around or whatever. But they're like, as he always says or whatever. Right. He always says that, does he?
Starting point is 00:58:00 He said it one time to one person. Yeah, but there's been five years. So maybe every time he's like, let them fight. Nothing happened. Godzilla disappeared. Maybe he just does it at work. Maybe this is workplace. does he said it one time to one person yeah but there's been five years so maybe every time nothing happened Godzilla disappeared maybe he just does it at work maybe this is workplace
Starting point is 00:58:08 someone's like so they took my staple off my desk let them fight yeah exactly and there's a slap fight in the office like there were moments
Starting point is 00:58:17 like you know like there were good reveals like Rodan I thought was a great reveal and it's just it's basically a big lava pterodactyl
Starting point is 00:58:24 or whatever and then they're like we gotta lure it away from the city so they bring the plane in the planes in and then they just fly it over the city and it just like just that is true like maybe even if the city completely surrounds the mountain which i the volcano which i don't think it does why would it let's say it does yes you fly it up and out you You don't go, let's fly low and take this pterodactyl that's leaking lava. There is that scene. I mean, you want to see the destruction. The most people being swept away to their death is, again,
Starting point is 00:58:56 when they lure the monster out of the city. The ones you see, the deaths you see the most. But maybe you open with that. It's sweeping over the city and then they're like, we've got to get it out of here. Maybe you go there. Maybe that's footage they had the city and then they're like, we've got to get it out of here. Maybe you go there. Maybe that's footage they had for that and they moved it around. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:59:09 Yeah. Maybe they didn't think about it. Maybe they didn't think about it. Maybe we've thought about it more than they did. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so, yep. So you didn't care about the human characters is what you're saying?
Starting point is 00:59:20 None of it. I like Ice Cube's son, whose name I don't remember. He's fun, I guess. But again, all those actors I like. His name's Wet Patch. Because it's a... Oh, very good. Very good, Mason.
Starting point is 00:59:32 All right. Is that your joke or did you steal that from him? No, it's my joke. I don't believe you. Wow, we'll see. Yeah, I like all those actors, but...
Starting point is 00:59:39 And Charles Dance is in it as a sinister eco-terrorist or whatever. The franchise ruiner. Let's see what happens. But apparently he's not in Kong and Skull Island. What's your like of the idea of this eco-terrorist or whatever. The franchise ruiner. Let's see what happens. But apparently he's not in Kong Skull Island. What's your like on the idea of this eco-terrorist? Yeah, because the idea is,
Starting point is 00:59:50 and I guess this is in the trailers, or who cares, either way. But they want to release all the Titans because they're going to level the Earth. And that will lead to humanity and the monsters becoming in balance with the world, obviously. But that's going to kill millions of people, probably. But Charles Dance is okay with it.
Starting point is 01:00:08 He is, yeah. Let them fight, as you heard Ken Watanabe say. That's right. Well, he's a disgruntled ex-employee. He must be. He got his stapler taken away. I looked him up. He's former SAS.
Starting point is 01:00:17 Yeah. I did a video on the post-credits, if anyone wants to know what's going on. They do a lot of shots of Kong to be like, well, he's not in this, but 2020, next year apparently, Kong versus Godzilla. So that's exciting,
Starting point is 01:00:31 I think. What did you like about this movie? No, I think that some of the monster battles were good, but I just, and the reveals,
Starting point is 01:00:37 I like the Rodan with the jets, he's knocking the jets out of the air and whatever. Oh, because he can do his little fire twirl. Yeah, that was quite good. You know what annoyed me
Starting point is 01:00:43 kind of about this movie is when the climax of this movie is when, the climax of this movie is set in Boston. And I didn't know anything about Boston, but when we get to Boston, it looks, Boston in the daytime looks exactly like the kind of city monsters would smash each other in,
Starting point is 01:00:58 like giant monsters. Like it's quite, there's a couple of skyscrapers and it's kind of like the rest is kind of low buildings. And I'm like, this is going to be the best finale to one of these moviesrapers and it's kind of like the rest is kind of low buildings and I'm like this is going to be the best finale to one of these movies ever because it's going to look it's going to be
Starting point is 01:01:09 if you can imagine amazing CGI monsters but they're fighting exactly the way like the Godzilla monsters in the 50s would fight just like with like hip height
Starting point is 01:01:19 buildings and they can just kick them over and stuff but then it becomes a big smoke monster finale it does the Warner Brothers smoke CGI lightning and a lot of that is like buildings and they can just kick them over and stuff. But then it becomes a big smoke monster. It does. The Warner Brothers smoke, CGI lightning.
Starting point is 01:01:28 And a lot of that is like, I thought the locations of the battles in Kong, for example, Skull Island, they're on the island. A lot of them are in the day. Not all of them, but a lot of them. And you can, not that you really had trouble following any of it, but I also think what this lacked compared to Kong and in particular Godzilla 2014 is scale. Because they were so pulled back from the monsters a lot of the time. Yeah, right, right.
Starting point is 01:01:48 They're obviously big. Yeah. But you really got that sense of awe and size with Gareth Edwards' Godzilla. And I think that that's kind of where they dropped the ball. Because in the last one, it was quite bold that they were like, okay, we trust the CGI godzilla and the monsters so well that we're just going to put them in daytime not so much 24 oh you're talking about kong more well kong more but there was the the initial appearance of godzilla in 2014's godzilla oh yeah in the
Starting point is 01:02:15 daytime and i'm like they that looks good enough that and i think you know given that it's five years from since then i mean i would say that this stuff was, you know, the CGI of this would have been good enough for it to stack up in daytime if they'd put the time and the effort in. And that's what I was looking forward to. It was like a daytime battle. But of course, the King Ghidorah brings with it a gigantic storm and lightning and darkness and rain.
Starting point is 01:02:38 Yeah. And we've got to live with that. And again, I think- And it looks good. Like, it doesn't look bad. It looks good. But again, I think it would have been better in daytime. Agreed.
Starting point is 01:02:47 I completely agree. There's also moments where a villain is explaining, or a character, I guess, is explaining their motivations for doing the thing that they're doing. It's more in spoilers. And they're going through it. But as they're explaining on a Skype call what they've done and how they're doing it, there's like a montage of footage
Starting point is 01:03:03 to show what they're talking about. Did they make that i'm like that's odd she's editing is this person editing into the feed or whatever did they make this did they make this ahead of time yeah and then there's a moment where they go well i've got a question what's going to happen to the cities and all the people and the person on the other end goes well what we've seen is uh the city's all renewed and there's the vegetation and And then there's footage of that. So did they just have that ready to go? It's a good question, isn't it? Just be like, look, if you ask a question,
Starting point is 01:03:30 we've got this ready. Yeah, exactly right. But it's not just footage. It's time-lapse CGI of ruined cities. Look, the cities were destroyed, but the radiation's brought back. The radiation's brought back all the vegetation. Anyway, there's a video.
Starting point is 01:03:45 There's a link in the episode description of this video of this terrorist act. Just things like that just seemed odd to me. They reference a lot of Skull Island and King Kong. And the other monsters I didn't mind, I mentioned there's a crab one. There's a mammoth one. There seems to be another Muto from the previous Godzilla.'t do much damage or anything that's right not that involved but yeah it's okay yeah look i like it is it is pretty okay i enjoyed it i enjoy it again i enjoyed that they the mythos is a little they've added some weird elements just to the earth yeah which
Starting point is 01:04:20 i think was kind of fun they're really leaning to that hollow earth thing aren't they yeah they really are. I think it's... I don't know. Look, I like this one, but it did feel a lot more like this is the setup. Yeah. Look, and we've talked about it. Charles Dance is the king of it.
Starting point is 01:04:36 The king of the game is on, just being like, well, did you like this? Well, here's some more. But the thing that he references in the post-credits isn't actually happening in the next movie. It's not, that's true. It's not happening but the thing that he next time the thing that he references in the post credits yeah isn't actually happening in the next movie it's not
Starting point is 01:04:48 that's true it's not happening in like the movie after if at all yeah right so maybe he's going to get his own adventures
Starting point is 01:04:53 in all the post credits of all the subsequent movies yeah that's right like he's never they're never going to cross paths with Charles Dance again it's just he's going to get
Starting point is 01:05:00 his own mini movies I would love that the next we'll talk about it in trailers oh we will yeah I'm going to say best movie ever I enjoyed it would love that. The next, we'll talk about it in trailers. Oh, we will. Spoilers, right? Yeah. I'm going to say best movie ever.
Starting point is 01:05:06 I enjoyed it. I think it's worth a watch, but I don't think I would ever watch it again. I'm going to say worst movie ever. I would say if you're a Godzilla fan, a lot of people seem to enjoy it, which I can understand because it does have a lot of monster stuff. What's your spoon, man? What's your spoon, man? The second thing that I said that I can't remember.
Starting point is 01:05:23 And if you're a Godzilla fan, I'd be very keen to know what you think about this one. I just think the monster stuff isn't that good, which is a bit disappointing, I think. Here's some things before we do spoilers. Let's just do spoilers now. Who cares? Here's some connections for you. Did you pick up on this? The Miles Dyson character is playing the same character from the 1970s who was the assistant of John Goodman. Same dude. Different actor.
Starting point is 01:05:49 In what? In a Godzilla movie? Yeah. In a Godzilla movie? In this movie, this new one, Miles Dyson is in it. Don't remember his real name. 702. He was also Cyborg's dad.
Starting point is 01:05:58 There's a guy in the 70s who's the assistant of John Goodman who they're running around with. They're like, we've got to get to Skull Island. It's the same actor. It's connected. Yeah, right, right. Okay, cool. I didn't remember that at all.
Starting point is 01:06:08 I Googled it and it is true. There we go. The other thing is Zhang Ziyi, whose name I'm definitely saying wrong, she's got the short hair and she's talking about whatever she's talking about. There's twins of her in this movie. Yes, I did. I did not pick up on that at all right one of them's working for the eco terrorists and one's not or something yeah and apparently that's
Starting point is 01:06:30 also like a reference like the mothra twins or something from like oh i say right from whenever yeah so but i don't think they really what what what who can who cares like why are we doing i think there are a lot of nods to this for people who haven't, who are big fans of the previous movies. I think Ken Watanabe's character, his noble sacrifice that he makes is a reference to the noble sacrifice
Starting point is 01:06:54 of another character in previous Godzilla movies, I think. We'll talk about Charles Dance. We should get back to Ken Watanabe as well. Because Atlantis. Sorry? Because Atlantis. And Hollow Earth. Hollow Earth. We should get back to Ken Watanabe as well. Because Atlantis. Sorry? Because Atlantis. And Hollow Earth.
Starting point is 01:07:07 Hollow Earth. The Hollow Earth people. They're leaning into it. They're really leaning into it. I'm okay with it. Yeah, I kind of liked it. Because you love it. You think it's true in real life.
Starting point is 01:07:15 Yeah, exactly right. When you told me Hollow Earth is hollow and flat, I think it's two things. So it's like a layer? Yep. There's nothing in the middle and then there's a sheet
Starting point is 01:07:23 on the bottom. Exactly, yeah. Okay, that makes sense to me. And then Godzilla's under that. Like an air sandwich? Yeah, like an air sandwich. Balanced on a Godzilla. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:07:30 Yeah. Sorry, when I told you something? You told me about Hollow Earth and I'm like, that's, what? Yeah, right. Like I couldn't understand what. Yeah. But now you get it, right? Now I get it and I believe you.
Starting point is 01:07:42 Okay. It's one of those things where I looked into it for a second and I'm like, no, this is off. No, people are bang up for it. But why though? I don't know. But what does it matter? Exactly.
Starting point is 01:07:54 How does it affect you? Well, that's exactly right. And it's one of those things where it's like, surely you could get some money, get a GoFundMe together and get a big drill. Drill into the earth exactly same with the flat earth people
Starting point is 01:08:07 I'm like I'll come with you they're like what's beyond the wall of ice no one knows and it's like well couldn't you just get a boat out there
Starting point is 01:08:12 go and check go and check nah the government wouldn't let you get out there no I reckon they would they probably would they absolutely would one less person to worry about
Starting point is 01:08:19 so so Charles Dance at the end we get a post credit sequence where Charles Dance goes to end we get a post credit sequence where Charles Dance goes to an island yeah
Starting point is 01:08:27 I guess where Rodan was lost his head yes not Rodan Ghidorah Ghidorah lost his head also he's an alien
Starting point is 01:08:35 I like that wrinkle so I was gonna say that's one of the things I couldn't really talk about pre-spoilers but it's like they just went you know what he is from space
Starting point is 01:08:42 yeah I like the fact that we're veered enough out of the real world where we can just be like, yeah, he's from space. Yeah. Why wouldn't he be from space? Yeah. You got a problem with that?
Starting point is 01:08:51 Yeah, he's from space originally, so now he's from space again. Yeah. How did he get frozen in ice? Probably tripped. Probably space ice. It's probably space ice. Spice. Spice, exactly.
Starting point is 01:09:00 Very good. Yeah, and so Charles Dance is going to purchase the severed head, one of the severed heads of King Ghidorah for nefarious purposes, whatever that means. Mecha Ghidorah. Mecha Ghidorah. They've done that. Yeah, they have done that.
Starting point is 01:09:14 It's true. They'll probably just clone one or whatever. When Kong kills Ghidorah, like swallows its head, it's still alive? When Godzilla kills Ghidorah. Does it have a lot of screaming? It's like, don't eat me. I don't like this. Yeah, it seems alive-ish, doesn't it? Yeah. Maybe it's just don't eat me i don't like this it seems alive
Starting point is 01:09:25 ish doesn't it yeah maybe it's just great he's screaming through it yes i think maybe that's it but i didn't think that death was i was okay but i didn't i wasn't like i well i don't know you turned into a lava guy you turn into a lava guy yeah it's good too was that because the ante every time yeah was he gonna turn the next time a tree a tree guy tree guy yep all the all the elements of nature he's gonna go all through the anniversary presents he's gonna, a tree guy. A tree guy, yep. All the elements of nature. He's going to go all through the anniversary presents. He's going to become a paper guy after this. A wood guy.
Starting point is 01:09:51 What's wood? What year is that? I don't know. Is it five? I don't know. Hit me up, Mason. Let me know. Okay.
Starting point is 01:09:57 If you're having an anniversary out there, what? No, you. Oh, me? All right. You're going to hit me up on Twitter. Let me know. I'm going to hit you up on Twitter. All right.
Starting point is 01:10:04 Yeah. People, make sure he does. All right, cool. I'll hit you up on Twitter Alright Yeah People make sure he does Alright cool I'll let you know Keep you posted Yeah So they visit Atlantis though And then they explode it
Starting point is 01:10:12 Well yeah Initially I'm like Is that Atlantis Or just the hollow earth people I think it's Atlantis And it was above ground At one point And then it wasn't
Starting point is 01:10:19 Right okay Yeah okay It's Kong's home Because he lives in lava Do you mean Godzilla Whatever Just shut up, all right? Shut up.
Starting point is 01:10:26 No, you're right. This is going to be a later... The Godzilla versus Kong episode is going to be tough on you. I can already tell. But I am looking forward to King Kong versus Godzilla. I think it could be really fun. But yeah, it seemed odd when they were just like, let's just explode Godzilla with a nuclear weapon.
Starting point is 01:10:43 Did that turn him lava? Is that what turned him into a lava man? Yes, it is, yeah. The absorption of all the radiation. Because when they dropped him out of the sky and he hit the ground, that wasn't the nuclear bomb that went off, was it? That was just a big kind of concussive force. That was...
Starting point is 01:10:57 I don't know. It's good that they lured Godzilla into a city. That's a good idea. Yeah. Where can we get a really big speaker this stadium you have a different speaker else no can you transport that guy's wrx no i don't think so don't do it no uh so vera vera familia yes is is evil it's not a name uh it's a dumb plan it is kind of dumb to destroy the world and then one of them's an alien that's going to destroy the world properly, for real.
Starting point is 01:11:26 And then they try to redeem her. They're like, but she's doing the right thing. No. A lot of people died. It's way too late. And I'm glad. Way too many people died. The truck flipped and she was smashed to death
Starting point is 01:11:36 or whatever happened to her. Yeah. Yeah. And when someone said, God, Zilla. Yeah. Good. Well, that's the West Wing guy. He can't resist getting in a little snappy zinger, you know?
Starting point is 01:11:47 Is that snappy, is it? Yeah, that was as snappy as he gets. He's the bad guy in Billy Madison. Oh, right. Yes. It's fine. I mean, I got some reviews here. Have you got something else to say?
Starting point is 01:12:01 Not really. But, yeah, look, I think I enjoyed it. But, again, it feels like a lot of setup. Yeah. If you, if, again, I'm sure you could watch the highlights reel of this on YouTube quite shortly, uh, cause they'll just release promo clips after a while. They'll be like, it's Godzilla versus King Ghidorah and whatever. Um, and I think it's a lot of setup.
Starting point is 01:12:20 If you, if you just want to watch King Kong versus Godzilla, just wait, wait a year. Wait a year. Wait a year. I liked the bit where Mothra webs its heads and then Godzilla tackles it through the building. That was fun. I don't think there was enough stuff like that that really stood out in the fight. It was a lot of just kind of shoving
Starting point is 01:12:34 each other and biting. Also, why is Mothra inherently loyal to Godzilla, but none of the other monsters are? Nature. That's a really good point. Because when Mothra was born and was a big caterpillar Yes It was webbing dudes And not eating dudes
Starting point is 01:12:47 Right I think that's important Right okay But then Mothra died But then her wings Gave Godzilla the power Oh that's right To succeed
Starting point is 01:12:55 Magical powers to succeed Yeah that's pretty cool It all ties back Mason Yeah It's going to be awkward When he meets new Mothra though Isn't it Yeah
Starting point is 01:13:03 Yeah Killed his mother Or sister We don't know We don't do we That's true Because there meets new Mothra, though, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. Killed his mother. Or sister. We don't know. We don't, do we? That's true. Because there's a Mothra in the bloody credits.
Starting point is 01:13:11 Guy Incognito says, Godzilla was spectacular. Loved the added regeneration law, and I wasn't getting impatient to get back to monsters quite as much as during the human scenes. King Ghidorah must have watched Brightburn last week because he stole Brandon's finishing move. Oh, the lift and then drop. Yeah, very good. stole Brandon's finishing move. Oh, the lift and then drop. Yeah, very good.
Starting point is 01:13:30 Matthew Onesto or Onesto? Oh, I'm going to say Onesto. I think it is that. He's written before. I've never left the theatre very sad before. In Godzilla King of Monsters, too much going back and forth between monsters' fights and people freaking out about things. Just give us some more monster fights.
Starting point is 01:13:42 See, I don't know. I think you do need to cut back, but I think there were some choices to cut back that were a bit like, it seems like an odd time to cut back to that. I know 2014 did that as well. Remember the shipping container, the doors closed and you just...
Starting point is 01:13:55 Oh, Godzilla and then the monster just about to destroy each other. Yeah, I think you need... They need to have faith in the idea that the CGI will hold up to scrutiny, I think. Show it to us in daylight. Give us 10 full minutes of them just wrecking each other. I think, even though people say they just want the monsters fighting,
Starting point is 01:14:17 you can't just do that. Let them fight. You can't just do that for two hours. No, that's true. You really can't. It'll get a little dull. But I think, think like give us speaking of john wick just give us give us 10 minutes of two monsters just hacking at each other sure and
Starting point is 01:14:31 it is brutal yep and kind of it'll look like you really get it going so it's like like those like punches are really just tearing in and it's kind of like wet thumps yeah absolutely just give us something because it is in the rain. Yeah. Nathan says, Godzilla King of Monsters is so fucking dumb. I loved every second of it. And Taylor Fleming says, Godzilla review,
Starting point is 01:14:51 shoots atomic blast out of butt. While some of the visuals and spectacles are cool, at the end of the day, it was just a wet fart. So there you go. That's Godzilla.
Starting point is 01:15:01 It is mixed though. Like I think, yeah, there's a whole range of emotions and reviews. Yeah, right. I think it might hold up. I think it'll hold up internationally. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:15:11 I think it'll do well. But, yeah, I think... Have they already begun filming King Kong Godzilla? I believe so, yes. Okay, right. Okay. Because that's, again, I wouldn't want to see bad box office tank the next one. No.
Starting point is 01:15:23 Because that's the one I want to see. Yeah, absolutely. So maybe they next one because that's the one i want to see yeah absolutely so maybe they should have done that with this one and then got then king kong could have got in on the yeah king gadora fight maybe i think it did tell a good enough self-contained story but there was a lot of like just you wait you bloody wait for it yeah well again that's exactly why i'm never going to see it again yeah because it's like well i can't i don't want to have them lightning each other agreed yes all right you what it's time for then? What's it time for?
Starting point is 01:15:45 What are we reading? Oh, what are we going to read? I'm doing nothing. What are we reading today? What are you reading? Good Diamonds. It's on Amazon Prime Video. Have they dumped the whole season?
Starting point is 01:16:02 Yes. Should I watch it? Should I finally get Amazon video for this? Okay. And I really like it. Yeah? Is that because you like David Tennant?
Starting point is 01:16:08 I do like David Tennant. Is it because you like the other guy? Michael Sheen? Is that his name? I believe you're thinking of the guy who always plays
Starting point is 01:16:14 Tony Blair. Charlie Sheen. Yes. No, it is Michael Sheen. I think it's Michael Sheen. Or Charlie Sheen. Okay, great. For those who don't know,
Starting point is 01:16:20 it's based off a Neil Gaiman comic. Is that right? It's based on a Neil Gaiman, Terry Pratchett novel that they did together. Terry Pratchett's whose all his works were Neil Gaiman comic. Is that right? It's based on a Neil Gaiman, Terry Pratchett novel. They did it together.
Starting point is 01:16:29 Terry Pratchett, whose all his works were destroyed by a steamroller after he died? That's correct, yes. You told me that, I believe. The Discworld author who's passed on. And I believe they did a premiere, I believe, in London. And they put, because Terry Pratchett had like a signature hat that he would wear. And so they put his hat and his scarf on the front. Did he have a signature scarf?
Starting point is 01:16:50 He had a variety of scarves, I believe, but one of his scarves. Anyway, they put it front row on the front seat, so he was there for it. They said they'd do it before he died. Before he died? Yeah, I think so. Oh, wow, good on him. So, yeah, it's an angel and a demon.
Starting point is 01:17:01 Yep. They misplaced the Antichrist. That's right. And it's going to be the end of the world. Or is it? Is the Antichrist good or bad? We don't know at this point. I'm only three episodes in.
Starting point is 01:17:11 But I am really enjoying it. Okay. It's a jaunt through history. I really enjoyed the relationship between the two lead characters. Does it feel real? Does it feel like? Okay, that's good. Okay, that's what I'm liking now. Because you jump through history.
Starting point is 01:17:21 It feels a bit... I'm trying to think of a good example. I had a good example and I lost it. But it definitely nails that. The Blues Brothers. Because you jump through history. It feels a bit... I'm trying to think of a good example. I had a good example and I lost it, but it definitely nails that. The Blues Brothers. Yeah, there you go. So, no, and they're a really good pairing. It's really fun.
Starting point is 01:17:33 Okay. And I guess that kind of... It's kind of a wacky kind of... Did you ever see that one on Netflix? You're going to find this similar at some point. It's a bit Dirk Gently. It's a bit kind of Good Place, kind of wacky
Starting point is 01:17:46 Rules of the Universe kind of stuff. Okay, sure, sure, sure. Okay, that sounds like fun. This is going to tip me over I think to getting Amazon video. All right,
Starting point is 01:17:52 for at least a month. At least a month, yeah. It is, I've had Amazon, like a lot of the streaming servers I come on and off on, but yeah,
Starting point is 01:17:59 there's some pretty good stuff in general. Okay, that's cool. Yeah, well, I'm going to watch that then. Okay. But I also want to watch, have you seen
Starting point is 01:18:05 the trailers for Always Be My Mate I have seen that movie yes what do you think it's good Ali Wong
Starting point is 01:18:09 Ali Wong should be meaner in it because I enjoy how mean she gets she is geek well for people that don't know she's an actor
Starting point is 01:18:15 slash stand up comic she had a stand up special called Baby Cobra a couple of years ago which was really really good that she did while
Starting point is 01:18:20 pregnant yeah and then she did another one where she was pregnant yeah yeah that's her rule she can only do it when she's another one where she was pregnant. Yeah, yeah. Right? Yeah. That's her rule.
Starting point is 01:18:27 She can only do it when she's pregnant. I understand that. And it's also got Randall Park, who we know is the FBI agent in the Ant-Man movies. And also the guy who wants to get Aquaman. Oh, yeah. He's all over the place, this guy. He's fun.
Starting point is 01:18:38 Yeah. He's good. Yeah, it's fun. I really like that a lot of these romantic comedies I would never go and see at the movies. Yes, exactly. Because I'd be like, I really like that a lot of these romantic comedies I would never go and see at the movies. Yes, exactly. Because I'd be like, I'll catch that on whatever. I like that Netflix are bringing them to the platform. I think it's good.
Starting point is 01:18:51 I think it's a good move. I think this is like a genre which has kind of waned because a lot of them just are bad and generic. But at the moment, not all of them, but a lot of them are pretty interesting. And also, yeah, well, I think they're like, okay, well, this, you know, we'll give you a small amount of money to make these i guess and then just be like one right one run wild and free and kind of be like do what you do what you want to do and then it gives you a chance it's not just like you know two middle class white people yeah exactly yeah they can cast who they want yeah and whatever that's right i'd imagine it'll do well because it's pretty funny. Slight spoiler alert.
Starting point is 01:19:25 You can jump ahead to the next segment. Oh, there's a special guest in it. Special guest in it. Do you know who it is? I've seen the trailer. Because it's in the trailer. Here's the thing. If you're thinking about seeing Always Be My Maybe,
Starting point is 01:19:34 don't watch the trailer that autoplays on Netflix because it'll tell you who the special guest is. Absolutely. But for those who don't care or have seen it, Keanu Reeves plays himself. Yes. He's good. Yeah, right?
Starting point is 01:19:44 He's an absolute delight. So, yeah. Also, I've been watching, I've been just going through, do you watch Hot Ones on YouTube? Yeah, I do, yeah. Yeah, I'm going through every episode of Hot Ones right now. Which is the... You should watch a guided video,
Starting point is 01:19:57 which is called like every episode of Hot Ones. Yeah. And it's the guy who's like where the guests are surprised by the in-depth questions. Yeah, right. And they're commenting about the week, like the first one's like, oh, this one isn't too bad or by the in-depth questions. Yeah, right. And they're commenting about the week. Like the first one's like, oh, this one isn't too bad or whatever. Then it wraps up.
Starting point is 01:20:09 Yeah, right. Yeah, but anyway, sorry, go on. Well, I was going to say I enjoy it a lot. They are good questions. It's a guy called Sean Evans, who I don't know anything about, but he seems to be a foodie. And every week they – why am I telling this? They've got like 6 million subscribers.
Starting point is 01:20:23 They know what they're doing. Everybody knows this. They do seasons, so they do them in batches but he gets a celebrity and everybody gets like 10 hot wings and each wing
Starting point is 01:20:31 has a different increasingly hot level of hot sauce on it and then he they eat the wing and then he asks them a question people suspect that the last one
Starting point is 01:20:39 not as hot as the previous hot one there's a perennial hot sauce in there called Da Bomb which is like wing number eight and that is terrifying yeah that's the one where people lose their minds
Starting point is 01:20:50 but i think it's also like because it's based on scoville units which are kind of made up yeah right they're kind of like it's subjective i assume yeah i think so true and i and i think you know there's different ways to formulate all these hot sauces. So it's like, but I think the idea is that the third to last one is the hottest one. Yeah. And then it's kind of like, because you don't want everybody losing their minds right at the end. No, exactly. The final one's usually two million Scovilles, but I mean, come on. How many Scovilles is it really?
Starting point is 01:21:19 And I'm very curious as to how, have you ever considered how long you'd last in that? I've thought about it. And I also thought that if I would ever go on that, which I obviously wouldn't because I'm not famous. Well, some people tweeted at us, hey, you want to be on Hot? Yeah, they definitely have a site. Well, that's what I was going to say. I was going to say like a couple of people tweeted at us, hey, you should be on Hot Ones. And I didn't know anything about it.
Starting point is 01:21:38 So I looked it up and I'm like, oh, Natalie Portman. You will be on Hot Ones. They've had like... Jack. Yeah, exactly. They've had YouTubers on it. Yeah, right. And I've got a million subscribers. But, exactly. They've had YouTubers on it. Yeah, right. And I've got a million subscribers,
Starting point is 01:21:46 but I don't get a million views a video. Yeah, right. And nobody knows who I am. Right. So there's no... Well, they're going to learn about you on Hot Ones. They might just. But have you considered how far you get through it?
Starting point is 01:21:56 I would train for it. Right. Yeah, yeah. That's what I would do. I'm okay with hot stuff, but I think a lot of people come into it thinking that and then get obliterated. Yeah, I'm also curious as to what kind of...
Starting point is 01:22:06 I imagine everybody who watches this... Where are you at? Well, like, what you'd turn into, like, because, like, there are different reactions. Some people will, like, they'll get a bit, like, delirious and they'll stand up. Shaq gets weird and competitive and... And they'll just walk around the room. Some people immediately vomit. I think that is me.
Starting point is 01:22:22 Did you see the Scarlet... Johansson one? Yes, I did, yeah. That's a is me. Did you see the Scarlet Johansson one? Yes, I did. That's a good one. Some people who are like cast iron, which I didn't expect. Charlize Theron cast iron. It doesn't affect her at all. Seth African.
Starting point is 01:22:33 Oh, that'd be it. Yeah. She had all those blood diamonds. Exactly. Others, I don't know. It's all good fun. I recommend if you're not one of the 6 million people subscribed to that YouTube channel.
Starting point is 01:22:45 We'll give them a bump. Give them a bump. Also, it makes me want to try some spice. Absolutely. I love spice. But not too much. I think you marry spice. I can't.
Starting point is 01:22:55 I'm married. Wow. Yeah. You marry spice. Maybe I will. Baby spice. Oh. She's probably married.
Starting point is 01:23:01 I don't know. Almost certainly, yeah. All right. Let's do the next thing. I played a game of pool with her the other day. And? Don't know. Don't know Almost certainly yeah Alright let's do the next thing A friend of mine Played a game of pool with her The other day And?
Starting point is 01:23:08 Don't know Don't know any more details You got a photo Which friend? This guy's named Evan He's Canadian Okay Yeah
Starting point is 01:23:13 Does he listen to this show? No Fuck you Evan You'll never know You'll never know It's true Alright Should we do letters?
Starting point is 01:23:22 Yes Nice The classic one was Letters Oh letters We love you Some letters That's true. All right. Should we do letters? Yes. Nice. The classic one was letters, oh letters. We love you. Some letters, they're only a day away. I know they're here right now. We're going to do letters.
Starting point is 01:23:35 Nice. It is the latest segment of the show. If you want to watch the show, hashtag weeklyplanetpod on Twitter or weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com. Dot com. We're doing some emails. We're doing some tweets. Would you like to go first or would you like me to gmail.com. Dot com. We're doing some emails. We're doing some tweets. Would you like to go first or would you like me to go first? I'll go first.
Starting point is 01:23:48 This is from Alexander Malari. Loves the podcast, which is very nice of him to say. One of the big reasons that you seem to have a calm presence in what seems to be an increasingly vocal fan base of nerd culture. I mean, I feel like you're losing your mind at a rapid rate. I don't think it's fan base related, though. I think it's just general. I don't think that's the stuff that affects me. it's it's daily life that's affecting you i think
Starting point is 01:24:09 yeah it's people it's people looking too hard at your garden it's this it's this and it's also like the state of the world so it's like big things small things you know what i mean yeah at the end of the day these things we watch read etc just media and i hate to see people legitimately upset petitioning online and arguing that someone is wrong if they like or dislike something. Do you think this is a big problem? How do you deal with this? I think it was always there but I think it's just more condensed. Yeah
Starting point is 01:24:33 I saw the other day on Twitter it was a petition to DC Comics I think to Michael Keaton Michael Keaton as Batman it was like a full page added variety or something like that. It was like, we highly recommend you don't cast Michael Keaton. And they've been, you know, this is, and there was one about, there was one about Spock because
Starting point is 01:24:55 the rumor was that he was going to die in Star Trek 2. Oh, right. And there was a, they, they, some Trekkies put out a, a big article that was like, how about we recommend, they recommended some other options to them? Kill Scotty. Kill Captain Kirk. Yes, please. No, kill William Shatner, the actor.
Starting point is 01:25:13 Yeah. You know what? It probably is getting worse because fandom is getting bigger and fan bases. Yeah, right, right, right. Yeah, so it probably is getting worse. I feel like it's also, there seems to be a pick-your-side situation. I feel like the pick-your-side, maybe it is subsiding a bit, though.
Starting point is 01:25:30 I think maybe it reached its peak maybe around... DC Marvel? Yeah, Batman v Superman kind of era. And I think it just exhausted people. So maybe that's improving slightly. I think it's getting more SJWs are ruining my life and my films oh you think it tipped that way which I find
Starting point is 01:25:48 that's exhausting to me like I just don't yeah yeah yeah because you know they released that scene of cut scene from Captain Marvel where Brie Larson
Starting point is 01:25:57 steals a motorbike or whatever and people are like see not none of the other heroes no heroes would do that except for John Stark was an arms dealer for like 30 years.
Starting point is 01:26:06 Even if he didn't pull any triggers, he killed a lot of innocent people. But that scene, it's clearly just an homage to Terminator 2. Exactly. In a movie that is set in the 90s. Yeah. That's just all it is. And they didn't put it in. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:17 And also, at that point... It's not even in the movie. Well, exactly. And at that point in the movie, she is a relentless space cop, like an inhuman space cop whose job it is to stop this Skrull invasion by any means necessary. Yeah. And also, a lot of people are like, what's wrong? She evolves as a character from that point. So it doesn't matter what she's like then.
Starting point is 01:26:40 Yeah. It's what she's like at the end. And the other thing is people are saying, well, some people are saying, I should say. I'm sure most people don't care that like he was just being friendly and helpful he wasn't he was being a creep like it's
Starting point is 01:26:51 you're reading that wrong yeah boy what do you mean I can't even walk up to him and talk to him not like that there's a middle ground that's not what was happening like I just yeah
Starting point is 01:27:01 I think if it was somebody going up and being like I can help you with directions and then she beat him up or whatever then I think if it was somebody going up and being like I can help you with directions And then she beat him up Oh that scene I would love to see that scene though But I still wouldn't complain Because it's character growth We've talked about this, again, spoilers for him
Starting point is 01:27:16 But he hasn't seen Endgame, who cares We've said before I like the way Endgame ended But it would have been funny. It would have been so funny if at the end Captain Marvel had just shown up and just laid Thanos out with one punch and be like, see? I thought it was going to happen. Yeah, right? It would have ruined the movie narratively, but it would have been so funny.
Starting point is 01:27:39 Yeah. what you just said would have been so good if they put in a scene where she didn't know where to go and somebody was like oh I have this map I can show you directions and she just punched a hole through his head and went ha ha and I'll have your motorbike that's right feminism I would have loved that so much
Starting point is 01:28:01 just a nonsensical beat down of an innocent man I think that would have been so funny. But that's not what this was. She doesn't even break his arm. She just like electrocutes him a little bit. I wouldn't say. Yeah, I didn't really want to even get into this.
Starting point is 01:28:15 No, but here we are. Here we are. I guess we took a side. Maybe this will disappear in the end. We took a side. They won't. I'll leave it in. All right.
Starting point is 01:28:21 What was your question? Fandom. Fandom and what it's turning into. Yeah, that's what it's turning into fandom and what's it what it's turning into yeah that's what it's turning into that is kind of what it's turning into but i think uh yeah i think i think it for a while for whatever reason in on a you know like a more harmless way it kind of was like dc and marvel and you've got to pick a side and people are really angry and it's like but i think that's sort of slackened off and I think... But I think that's also because the DC movies took a big dive.
Starting point is 01:28:47 Yeah, right? And everybody just went, it's fine, fine. I think some people were just exhausted having to constantly defend something that wasn't very good. Yeah. But now that they've taken an uptick,
Starting point is 01:28:57 maybe they'll kind of come back. But also I think it's, I think we all collectively went, just let's all have, let's all enjoy some good movies. It doesn't matter if they're one side or the other. Who cares? You know? I don't know. Let me...
Starting point is 01:29:12 What else have we got? I can do it. I can do it. Oh, in their email? Yeah. I argue that someone's wrong if they like, dislike something. Yeah, I know. I always think that. It's like, well, at the end of the day, it's just a movie. It really is. But I always think that. It's like, well, at the end of the day, it's just a movie. It really is, yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:26 But I also think it's like sometimes it just evolves naturally because it's fun to discuss. Yeah, exactly. Okay, well, who could win in a fight between these two characters? Or like, well, there's no way this character could win in that fight, in that movie, because obviously this guy's got this power. It's fun to discuss it. But for whatever reason, some...
Starting point is 01:29:44 I think maybe it's to prove you're the best fan it might be to be like well obviously you know the most things I know the most things and obviously
Starting point is 01:29:50 if you read the comics you'd know that he couldn't do this because blah and it's like and then it becomes sort of hostile I think
Starting point is 01:29:56 and movie fights has changed you know movie fights like because it used to be just like they'd kind of yell at each other or whatever because it was in good fun
Starting point is 01:30:03 but that's kind of become the norm so they've kind of adjusted a bit to be just like they'd kind of yell at each other or whatever because it was in good fun. Yeah. But that's kind of become the norm. So they've kind of adjusted a bit to be like, well, this isn't really. Now they just pass notes to each other in silence. Six million subscribers. Yeah, because it's just, there's this, yeah, because fandom is, it's pretty intolerable, a lot of it. But I think it'll probably shift again to something else.
Starting point is 01:30:25 I think so, yeah. Again, like I said, I think the DC Marvel thing was really intense for a minute. And I think it's kind of... It's probably going to be a general everybody hates Disney thing because of the monopolizing entertainment and whatever and job loss, which is pretty fair. Yeah, exactly. Let's hate a...
Starting point is 01:30:44 Don't hate a franchise. Don't hate a director. Don't hate an actor. Hate a corporation. That, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Let's, let's hate a, don't hate a, don't hate a franchise. Don't hate a director. Don't hate an actor. Hate a corporation. That's what I say. hate the game. Exactly right.
Starting point is 01:30:52 Tim Saxby. The rap of the game. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. Tim Saxby says, do you think introducing failing characters like Hellboy
Starting point is 01:30:59 into other successful franchises could save those characters such as Hellboy into the DCEU? If so, what would make a good crossover? Hashtag Weekly Planet Point. Interesting. They were talking Hellboy TV series,
Starting point is 01:31:09 but I don't think that they're like, no, we're going to sit on that for a while. I guess so. Well, Hellboy's Dark Horse, or is it owned by Mike Mignola? I think it's Dark Horse. Okay. I don't, that's a good question. Maybe you could put him in like,
Starting point is 01:31:22 if they ever made a Justice League Dark or a Justice League Magic Magic Justice League put him in there he's very much like he leans he's way more he feels way more like a DC character
Starting point is 01:31:32 to me anyway than a Marvel character is he Vertigo? Hellboy? no he's Dark Horse but I was wondering is he owned by Dark Horse or is he owned by Mike Minnelli
Starting point is 01:31:40 I don't know yeah I would maybe put him in a maybe because he was in he was in Injustice 2 he's one of the bonus characters in Injustice 2 so maybe put him in maybe because he was in he was in Injustice 2 he's one of the bonus characters in Injustice 2 so maybe put him in
Starting point is 01:31:49 put him in like a if they would whoever make a you know Justice League Magic team put him with put him with Constantine and Zatanna
Starting point is 01:31:56 Swamp Thing yeah all those guys put him in there that'd be fun Swamp Thing's starting up as well yes people have said good things about the first episode
Starting point is 01:32:03 again a show we won't see for a year because we don't have DC Plus or whatever it is. And we don't want it, quite frankly. Quite frankly, Mason. Well, I've just committed to purchasing Amazon for a month. So I'm tapped out financially.
Starting point is 01:32:17 Exactly. Yeah. So any other characters, though, that you think like minor characters, would you do like a, would you fold like Blade into another character, for example? Oh, right, right, right.
Starting point is 01:32:27 What are some failing superhero characters that they've attempted? Ghost Rider. They did him on TV. That's true. He worked quite well, yeah. That was a successful experiment. Who else? Spawn.
Starting point is 01:32:41 Punisher they put into Daredevil. There you go. And then fold them back into something. Yeah. Spawn Punisher they put into Daredevil So There you go And then fold them back into Something Yeah Spawn yeah Yeah put Spawn into the Dark Justice League Dark Why not
Starting point is 01:32:51 Spawn's in apparently Yeah did you say that Yeah he's in He's in Mortal Kombat 11 He's coming up yeah We talked about that already We sure did Just weird Dark characters
Starting point is 01:32:58 Is what we're saying I guess I think so yeah Maybe you do like So this isn't really successful Hasn't ever really given a shot But like We've talked about this a thousand times. So like you do boost a gold blue beetle.
Starting point is 01:33:08 You team up two characters, yeah. Or you say Silver Sable and Black Cat, but you make two separate movies. Yeah, for sure. Absolutely, yeah. Take another shot at Steel. I think that would be good. A good Steel movie could be.
Starting point is 01:33:20 But put Shaq in it again. No. No, just a regular man. Just a regular sized man. Just Shaq, but he's eaten all those regular man just a regular sized man just Shaq but he's eaten all those hot wings oh and now he's Steel again
Starting point is 01:33:28 and he really needs to fly around and find a toilet he didn't even fly in that movie maybe he didn't even fly in a grappling hook yeah yeah I would bring back I reckon put Steel in I mean I'd like to see him in the movies
Starting point is 01:33:40 but you could put him in Supergirl yeah oh yeah well I forgot to mention oh that just came out Supergirl apparently they're gonna I didn't put it in news oh there's gonna be super they're gonna cast yeah i reckon next early soonish at the end of the year early next year i love it and 2021 release i believe i'd love to see a supergirl movie i'd especially love to see a good
Starting point is 01:33:58 one yeah right why don't you watch the tv series which a movie I really should Because a lot of people like it And I watched the first one I went this is alright It's got a charm It certainly does I think she's good as well It's from Unimaginative And she's married to
Starting point is 01:34:13 The guy who plays Mon-El in the show Really? Which is her love interest in the show Isn't that fun? I mean they're related He's an owl and she's an owl Yeah that's true They're both from the House of El.
Starting point is 01:34:25 That's true. No, wait. Well, Dexter married his sister from the show in real life. That is true, isn't it? But then they got divorced. Yeah, because they were related and it was weird. Yeah. They figured it out.
Starting point is 01:34:36 They sure did. But not in time. No. Unimaginative Username says, how do you feel about giving actors a second chance at comic book characters? Danny DeVito is the penguin but is a corrupt businessman rather than Tim Burton nightmare. I'd say that.
Starting point is 01:34:46 Me too. Arnold is a cold calculated freeze rather than just bad. Could they be redeemed? I would see Arnold be freeze again. Modern day Arnold? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:56 Because I think he's a better actor than what he is. Yeah, no, for sure. You're right. We could do it better. Yeah. But I'd still also rather if they did Charles Dance freeze.
Starting point is 01:35:04 Yeah, right. Think about that if you could. That would be pretty good. Yeah, there you go. If you want to kill another franchise, I get it. Yeah, no, I think I 100% like the idea of Danny DeVito. Yeah. But I think that's a special case.
Starting point is 01:35:14 Like, I wouldn't want to see Jim Carrey Riddler ever again. You don't want to see Tommy Lee Jones' Two-Face? No, no, no, no. You don't want to see the witch from the Supergirl movie return as the witch? Not so much, no, no. But yeah, think danny video danny devito special case i think if we were going to see the monster from how the duck who was also the principal from ferris bueller to come back as the monster from how the duck except now that we know he's a pedophile in real life no okay good i don't reckon that was a a test. Yeah, of course. Sorry, you were saying.
Starting point is 01:35:47 Something about Mr. Freeze. I think it was probably that I'd want to see Mr. Freeze as more of like a nerd. Oh, yeah. Like a nerd in a power suit. I think that's kind of how I feel like that version of the character. Yeah. And he sort of becomes a cold, he's transformed into a cold calculating killer. Let's do the animated version. That's what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 01:36:04 Yeah, yeah. I hear you. Yeah. Any others? That'll do it, I reckon. I think that will do killer. Let's do the animated version. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah. I hear you. Any others? That'll do it, I reckon. I think that will do it. And that's the show. Oh, thanks everybody for listening. Yay!
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Starting point is 01:38:25 You're going to buy every Godzilla movie on DVD ever made. Don't. In the shape of Charles Dance's head. You can do that. That's available. Or just buy whatever you want. It's shaped right. The human head is perfect as a DVD box set.
Starting point is 01:38:38 Absolutely it is. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Good on you, Charles Dance. Yeah. Next week, X-Men
Starting point is 01:38:45 That's right, yeah The last one I'm not looking forward to it Let's go into this Yeah, let's We're going to have to Think about it this way Think of it as in
Starting point is 01:38:57 Let's say we had to sponsor it Let's say somebody gave us some money to hype it up before Are they doing that? No Oh, alright But we're pretending for this purpose. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, all right.
Starting point is 01:39:07 Cool. That sounds fun. It's your old friends. They're back. This is going to cap off the X-Men saga. McAvoy, he's back. Oh, boy. You better believe it.
Starting point is 01:39:16 Fassbender, check out that ass. Ass. Render. CGI. MCGI'd him. I don't know. Other things. Other things that rhyme. Nicholas Holtz him I don't know other things other things that rhyme
Starting point is 01:39:26 Nicholas Holt why don't you do the bolt into the cinema to watch the movie Sophie Turner why don't you turn her into the cinema
Starting point is 01:39:33 because you turned it away for a moment because you were like do I really want to watch this terrible movie but then turn her back into the movie watch that movie
Starting point is 01:39:41 Quicksilver watch X-Men you won't shoot yourself afterwards Quicksilver watch X-Men you won't shoot yourself afterwards Quicksilver don't get mercury poisoning instead watch this movie you probably won't
Starting point is 01:39:51 get mercury poisoning if you watch this probably probably not no guarantees and no refunds yeah there is going to come a day
Starting point is 01:40:00 where we're going to get a sponsor for something upcoming that ends up being bad because we've rolled the dice on some stuff like we did Stranger Things not knowing we saw the first two and we're going to get a sponsor for something upcoming that ends up being bad because i've rolled the dice on some stuff yeah like we did strange things not knowing we saw the first two and we're like this is really good yeah right but and we did spiderverse and that turned out great which is really good yeah but i think one day we're just accidentally
Starting point is 01:40:16 gonna get one i did i did a i nearly got a mark warburg one i'm sorry what like a youtube were they gonna sponsor us were they gonna Wahlburgers going to sponsor us? It was the one where he's got a crew of... Instant Family. It's a heist or something. No, I would have done... I watched Instant Family. It's fine.
Starting point is 01:40:33 But he's got a crew and they've got to do a heist or save a bank or something. I can't remember. Well, hopefully by that point we'll have had mercury poisoning and we'll recommend anything. Hopefully. But until then, no. Quality only. That's fine with me. Harry's razors. Yeah, that's right. And we'll recommend anything. Hopefully. But until then, no. Quality only.
Starting point is 01:40:46 That's fine with me. Harry's razors. Yeah, that's right. Get one if you can. That's linked below. Oh, quick update. As to all the questions we asked last week, the answers are in. And a lot of yeses, a lot of nos.
Starting point is 01:40:59 I would say there's a definitive amount of yeses, though. Would you? I saw mostly nos. Really? Wow, we're getting different information. Guys, if you could go through our Twitter feeds, like replies to us. Action item this week. Have you seen mostly yeses or mostly nos?
Starting point is 01:41:14 What do you got? One word answer. Yes or no. Did you see mostly yeses or mostly nos on that Twitter feed? Let us know. If you could. And the other things we said about... Who's your spoon man?
Starting point is 01:41:25 The thing we said, yeah. Maybe that should be things we said about, who's your spoon man? The thing we said, yeah. Maybe that should be the focus. Yeah, who's your spoon man? If they've got a Wikipedia page, if they've got like a... Tweet, put them in the tweet. Yeah, tweet them in. If they've got a YouTube video
Starting point is 01:41:37 where they lose their mind and smash up a studio, we'd love to see that. But like if they're on Twitter, hook them in. Yeah, that's right. Maybe we can sponsor some of your spoon men. Yes, that's right. Maybe we can sponsor some of your Spoonmen. Yes, that's right.
Starting point is 01:41:47 What if it turns out Spoonman's a franchise? There's hundreds of Spoonmans around the world. I'm going to check if he's on Twitter. He must be, right? Yeah, his name's Brian Carlton. I remember he revealed that in the last episode. Oh, he revealed his real name. Yeah, here he is.
Starting point is 01:42:01 People are like, who cares? I care. Wow. There we go. He's got 6,700 followers. And he now hosts Tasmania Talks. Cool. I love it.
Starting point is 01:42:11 Good on him. But he's doing the 9 a.m. to 12 p.m. He's finally getting some bloody sleep, mate. Good on him. Good on him. Yeah. Nice. All right.
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