The Weekly Planet - 292 Spider-Man: Far Home is...

Episode Date: July 8, 2019

Check out https://casper.com/theweeklyplanet and use the offer code THEWEEKLYPLANET for $50 off.Hellllllo and hello? Spider-Man Far From Home is out so please enjoy our thoughts. In addition to that n...ews of a pitched Superman movie that was rejected, trailers for Knives Out and Jumanj3, a new director for The Flash, more Akira and Sandman for TV maybe. Thanks for listening.Suggestible Podcast: https://aca.st/cf053aFar From Home Easter Eggs: http://bit.ly/2LGDk7EDonate Here Please: https://www.theintrepidfoundation.org/planetbroadcastingfundraiserLive Show Melbourne July 21st: https://www.trybooking.com/book/event?eid=516853&bof=10:00 The Start Of The Show5:56 Man Of Steel Green Lantern Movies12:01 A new and Little Mermaid14:13 Knives Out16:10 Jumanj319:01 The Flash get’s a director22:52 More Akira26:00 Sandman maybe for real33:32 Spider-Man Far From Home (spoilers 46:24 - 1:13:12)1:13:12 Letters It’s Time For Letters1:21:57 What We Reading/What We Gonna ReadJames' Twitter â–º http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter â–º http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon â–º https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch â–º https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies The Weekly Planet iTunes â–º https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 The Weekly Planet Direct Download â–º https://omny.fm/shows/the-weekly-planetBuy Spider-Man Far From Home Amazon â–º https://amzn.to/2AQxPN3 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:27 Casper Mattresses. Casper Mattresses. Casper Mattresses. Mattress. Welcome back everybody to another episode of The Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday. With me is always my co-host Nick Mason.
Starting point is 00:00:51 Whenever I slightly change the intro, you're always like, whoa, I can see the look on your face like, where's he going? It throws my whole rhythm off, you know, right? Every once, I saw a band the other day and they played one of their classic songs but they tweaked it slightly. Which band and who now? I saw Magic band the other day and they played one of their classic songs, but they tweaked it slightly. Which band and who now? I saw Magic Dirt. I know Magic Dirt.
Starting point is 00:01:09 Yeah, anyway, and they had one of their classic songs. You kind of mix it up a little bit. I guess if you play that song, you've played it a thousand times, you want to keep it interesting for yourself. If Nick Mason's coming along, they want to make it special. Exactly. And I was like, what are they doing? Excuse me.
Starting point is 00:01:29 Hello. Hello. Just up top, I mentioned this last week, but Claire and I, my lovely wife Claire, have a podcast called Suggestible. I think I called it Suggestibles last week. The name was in flux. It was all up and down and all around. I feel it's still in flux. You're probably right.
Starting point is 00:01:44 No, we're locked into a logo. Okay, right. And we're locked into a name. But it's basically, it's half hour episodes. Every Thursday, we're going to be releasing them and they're now on iTunes.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Hopefully moving to Spotify soon. Just got to wait. These things take a while to push through and Google plans such. Is it a hard 30 minutes? Pretty much, yeah. I think we did 31 minutes.
Starting point is 00:02:01 Cut yourself off mid-sentence, I think. That's right. You should do it a lot. You should be like, but one thing I absolutely recommend is you watch season one of Thesentence I think that's right you should do it a lot you should be like one thing I absolutely recommend is you watch season 1 of
Starting point is 00:02:08 at the end yeah that's right and then no you're not coming back I was only going to say Under the Dome it doesn't matter for sure yeah
Starting point is 00:02:15 you didn't need to watch that but yeah so it's basically things I've been watching doing listening and such last week one of the things I talk about is the tick Claire talks about
Starting point is 00:02:23 some other crap I don't know whatever she's doing you know what I mean? Something arty, probably. You know what she's like. Maybe a documentary. Yeah, that's right. But if so, yeah. That's going to be every Thursday for now until it's not. But no, we're really enjoying doing it because we're
Starting point is 00:02:35 looking for something to do together that's kind of also something we don't have to heavily research every week because we also have other jobs. You know what I mean? I mean, they're all mostly podcast related, but Sure, right. You know what I mean? But it's a lot of fun. And thank you to all the people who have given very kind reviews already. We debuted on the UK charts at number 88,
Starting point is 00:02:53 and I'm like, are you kidding me? What a success story. Hitler's number, yes. Is it? What you'd always dreamed of. Whose number? Hitler. Why that one?
Starting point is 00:03:01 I don't know. Yeah. It's one of those things. Something wrong with that guy. Right? It's good he's dead, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah, one of those things. Something wrong with that guy. Right? It's good he's dead, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah, good.
Starting point is 00:03:07 I'd recommend him remaining dead if I was on your podcast, quite frankly. Yeah. The other thing is our live show coming up on the 21st of July, which is a couple of weeks away. Tickets are nearly sold out. I think there's something like 20 or 30 left because we upped the number of seats. And there's a final cutoff day on Thursday for those tickets. And then we'll either, if they all get sold out,
Starting point is 00:03:29 we'll go to a bigger venue or that will be it. So it's kind of like if you want them, now's probably the time just in case I would say grab them this week. I think there's maybe 20 left, maybe less by now. I don't know. But it's 200 plus seats or something. If you want to, like right at the last minute like buy the last couple of tickets and then we have to move to a bigger room and then then the back end of that room yeah just empty that's funny that's
Starting point is 00:03:55 exactly what's a funny power move to do that's right you're also stealing from charity if you do that because we go to the bigger room oh it costs a little bit more yeah right right but again funny it's funny. It's funny. And also, what will also probably happen is people won't take the front seats. Yeah. It'll be the back will be filled. The front will be empty.
Starting point is 00:04:12 The front will be my parents, I think. Oh, good. Just lounging. Yeah. Your mum will be asking questions throughout the show. She totally will as well. Yeah. Mum, you're embarrassing me in front of ToeFop, the podcast who's joining us on stage.
Starting point is 00:04:28 Charlie Claus and the Will Amps. The other thing is our charity campaign has kicked off for this year, growing a seaweed belt to help with CO2 emissions, et cetera, and so forth. We're saving the world. Saving the world, baby. We can't do it by ourselves. No, we tried tried we can't plant that much seaweed
Starting point is 00:04:47 on our own no we did it for like 23 minutes the other day yeah exactly I didn't enjoy it it's that 24th minute that kills you
Starting point is 00:04:54 I didn't want to do it that's the hump yeah that's right it's the seaweed hump what are we up to on those donations we're up to $4,570 that's excellent
Starting point is 00:05:00 that's nearly 10% of the way that's fantastic so also if every dollar is donated it's going to be matched. So we're actually up to $9,140. So we can get to it.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Our target is $50,000. I don't know whether we'll get that. We did last year just. Because we both put our life savings into it. We absolutely did, yeah. But also, we'll do a tour of the new studio for people who donate. You can ask a question if you donate. We'll do a Q&A. There'll be some bonus stuff. We'll probably do another. But also, we'll do a tour of the new studio for people who donate. You can ask a question if you donate. We'll do a Q&A.
Starting point is 00:05:26 There'll be some bonus stuff. We'll probably do another thing, won't we? Might give you a badge. Yeah, give you a bloody badge. There'll be prizes. I don't know, man. It's all below. Everything I've ever said is below.
Starting point is 00:05:36 All right, Mason. That's going on your tombstone. Everything I've ever said is below. Yep. That's not right. We're going to chuck copies of your videos and stuff In your grave I don't want those
Starting point is 00:05:48 Well alright I don't want them What do you want in your grave? Nothing Not even me What about that Just kick me into a river What about that YouTube 100,000 subscriber plaque
Starting point is 00:05:56 Chuck that in there I don't know where it is Actually I'm due to get my million mark I was going to say So you only get 100,000 You get a million And then it's 10 and then 50 Oh wow
Starting point is 00:06:03 No Who's got a 50 million subscriber? PewDiePie Mason or something. Probably the other ones that have that many. His one's got an 88, doesn't it?
Starting point is 00:06:11 Maybe, well. Chris McQuarrie pitched a... A director of many things. That's right. Jack Reacher. Oh, yeah, great. I've never seen it.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Did you see it? I've seen both of them. Great. One's okay, isn't it? I remember them both being fine, I guess. Wow, which one's got Jai Courtney both of them great one's okay isn't it I remember them both being fine I guess which one's got Jai Courtney though
Starting point is 00:06:27 I don't know yeah I agree maybe one or both yeah the second one or both or the first one
Starting point is 00:06:34 I don't know yeah it is apparently he's talking about on Twitter though these might be deleted by now I think they might be Man of Steel movie
Starting point is 00:06:40 that he pitched with Henry Cavill to Warner Brothers which tied into the Green Lantern Corps oh I see but they said the studios have never cared for my original ideas they prefer that I fix movie that he pitched with Henry Cavill to Warner Brothers, which tied into the Green Lantern Corps. Oh, I see. But they said, the studios have never cared for my original ideas.
Starting point is 00:06:50 They prefer that I fix their broken ones. Oof, rough. And probably accurate. Yeah. I mean, I think at this point, Warner Brothers are looking to move ahead, right? And just got, they're going like, they're like, we don't. We're going to do a trench movie. We're going to do another Shazam? Or did that not do that well?
Starting point is 00:07:06 I think that may be happening now. Okay, right. We'll probably do a Batman. How many Joker movies? Yeah, how many do you want? Did you hear they cancelled Batman magazine? Yeah, I did. That's a shame.
Starting point is 00:07:15 For? Forever. Do you have a subscription? No. I'm part of the problem. You absolutely are. But it was doing well, like sales-wise. It was doing like 150,000 copies an issue.
Starting point is 00:07:26 Really? Which is, like, that's three or four times as much as a comic book in any given month. But I guess because you've got the multiple writers and publishers and writers and not publishers and artists and such. The rumours are that because remember when Disney bought Marvel and everybody was like, well, what are they going to get rid of? Because they like the movies because they make a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:07:50 Maybe they'll get rid of Marvel Comics, the publishing arm, or whatever, and they haven't yet, which is good. Well, a year ago AT&T bought Time Warner. And did Time Warner own Mad? Well, Time Warner owned everything. Time Warner owned HBO and they owned Warner Brothers and they own... Oh, their washing machines.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Yeah, their washing machines and New Line Cinema and they own DC Entertainment. And they cancelled Vertigo a while back. Oh, yeah, that's right. So some people have suggested that. But now I've got DC Black, look at Batman's penis comics. Oh, damn. Yeah, right, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:08:22 Well, that's a different arm of publishing, isn't it, DC? I guess so, yeah. But it's also Batman. It's also still Batman, right. Absolutely. Well, that's a different arm of publishing, isn't it, DC? I guess so, yeah. But it's also Batman. It's also still Batman. Yeah. So some people are in fear that it's like, well, they're just dumping everything that doesn't sell and copies an issue or whatever. Maybe someone will pick up the rights or something.
Starting point is 00:08:36 Or maybe you can move to like a Cracked.com. Because Cracked was like the knockoff mad. Cracked was knockoff mad, yeah. They had their own- Then Cracked fired everybody and now it's just listicles and whatever. Exactly, yeah. Is it still around? I haven't seen a Cracked listicle.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Yeah, but it's mostly like, I mean, they've got their core writers and I think their podcast still does things. Yeah, right. A lot of people hide for that. But a lot of it is write an article for Cracked and we'll give you 50 bucks or whatever. And Cracked, the website started out with kind of like more long form stuff. And then, yeah, it just sort of.
Starting point is 00:09:09 It took on a life of its own. Yeah. And then fired everybody. Yeah. So that's pretty good. Anyway, Chris McQuarrie doing a Man of Steel movie with Henry Cavill, where he goes to space with Green Lantern Corps, which is what you've always been saying.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Do space stuff, Superman. Do space stuff. It's not happening because... Sylvester Peacemite. That's Cracked's mascot. That's their Alfredine. Are you fucking kidding me? That's him.
Starting point is 00:09:32 I didn't even know they had a mascot. You better believe you. Yeah. I thought that was just the other one. Alfredine. Yeah, just that's what I thought you were showing me. How dare you? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Spy versus Spy. That's Mad Magazine. No, I know. I'm saying they got rid of it. Yeah, they did. How dare you. Yeah. Spy versus Spy. That's Mad Magazine. No, I know. I'm saying they got rid of it. Yeah, they did. Yeah. Marvel also had Crazy Magazine, which was their Mad Magazine. Very good.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Yeah. What happened to that? Also cancelled. Yeah. Okay, good. I loved Mad Magazine back in the day. We've had this conversation on the air, I think. They used to sell paperbacks, I guess in the 70s or 80s, and it was just reprints of their old gross 50s and 60s stuff.
Starting point is 00:10:08 Yeah. Really good. You weren't like, who's Johnny Carson or whatever when you were a kid? No, not at all. No? No. You weren't like, nutty professor references. This isn't Eddie Murphy.
Starting point is 00:10:18 You understood the references? I knew things. Okay, good. Yeah. Anyway, Superman movie's not happening i guess well not this version that's a shame yeah but you know he's been the witcher isn't he that's true there was some yeah yeah apparently more based on the books than the video games i say both of which people enjoy for different reasons mediums you know what i mean as in psychics oh i say
Starting point is 00:10:41 what can they do can they help us can they spend spoons as we say psychics. What can they do? Can they help us? They can bend spoons, as we know. Yeah, that's true. Can they solve crime? Can they? Can they help police officers locate stolen children? I mean, they say they can. Yeah. It's probably an episode of The Extraordinary about it. There's a local reference for you, everybody.
Starting point is 00:10:56 No, America had The Extraordinary. Oh, wait, maybe they didn't. Weirdness. I'm sure they localised it a little bit. I think they took US stories and just plugged them in as well. Oh, right, right, right. They did a bit of both. Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:11:05 It's like Funny Stone Videos Australian, but it's like, these are all American. You're not fooling anybody. You and you. Is that show still going? The Extraordinary. No, no, Funny Stone Videos. Australia's Funny Stone Videos.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Just any of them. I don't, America's Funny Stone Videos. I mean, because it's YouTube now, isn't it? Well, exactly, yeah. You don't really need it. Yeah. All right. Maybe that's it.
Starting point is 00:11:25 It's just 22 minutes of a black screen just with text scrolling through that just says, just go to YouTube and put in funny video. Well, there are shows that- Man gets hit in balls. There are shows where it's like people sitting on a couch and there's a host going like, check it out, dogs. Look at these hot videos of the week. And it's men being hit with balls in the balls.
Starting point is 00:11:45 And then they're like, what do you say, panel? And they're like, that guy's never going to have children because he got hit in the balls. And everybody's like, brilliant. Let's start it again. Well, I guess that's replaced the... They've put that guy out of work. You know, the guy that was always the voices of people in those videos. Oh, I'm a cat.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Oh, but I'd get stuck in this fan. I'm stuck in the fan exactly exactly i'm a man i hope i don't get hit in the balls oh my balls yeah what happened to that guy you know yeah he killed himself uh next story hallie bailey yes is ariel in little mermaid cool controversy or not mason because we had a conversation about this. Well, controversy. Or not. Or not. Because there was some furor on the internet
Starting point is 00:12:32 because she's African-American and Ariel, a fictional mermaid, is not. Yeah. But a lot of people suspect that that is a lot of all the furor is just bots on Twitter. If you go to that hashtag, which was like not my aerial or something like that, most of it is just people going, this controversy is dumb, just cast whoever.
Starting point is 00:12:51 Yeah. Whoever is the best person. And there's almost no. Or just whoever even. Yeah, just a rando. It doesn't matter. It's dark under the ocean. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:13:02 So you can really cast anyone. Yeah, but Mason, the sunlight and under the water. Oh, boy. And it's a Danish story. Everybody's an expert on mermaid physiology. I like that. Yeah. There's also like a Jamaican crab in that movie.
Starting point is 00:13:15 There is a Jamaican crab. I mean, he's from Jamaica, I guess. And traditionally, in the original Little Mermaid, when Ariel gets her legs and she goes on land, she's constantly bleeding from her feet. Yeah. And she's green, I think. Yeah, cool. But not on land, right? No, I think and she goes on land, she's constantly bleeding from her feet. Yeah. And she's green, I think. Yeah, cool.
Starting point is 00:13:27 But not on land, right? No, I think she's green on land. Because he'd be like, I'm not marrying this one, with her weird feet and her green face. I think she tries to eat him as well. That's not how you... I wonder if they should make that movie. I think so too.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Yeah. So, yeah, so it might be a drummed up fake bot controversy. I mean, I know there are people legitimately mad about this, but the furor, if you will, Mason. A lot of reference to the furor this week. That's right. The adiator of it all is that most people don't care, I guess. I hope not.
Starting point is 00:13:57 I know I don't because, well, I'm not really a fan for one, and just cast whoever. I don't care. You're a fan? You haven't seen it. Of course I'm not seeing it. We'll do it when You haven't seen it. Of course I've not seen it. We'll do it when it comes out, though. We'll caravan and garbage it.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Hooray. Hooray. Trailers Ahoy, everybody. Have you seen it? You've seen it as a kid. Maybe. I don't really remember it. I've seen it more times as an adult than I've seen it as a kid.
Starting point is 00:14:18 Yeah, right. And I don't really like it, to be honest. There you go. Perfect. Yeah. I don't hate it. I'm just not. I don't think I just didn't see it at a young age.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Yep. Yeah. Can't relate. Yep. Because with the red hair, obviously. Obviously, of perfect. Yeah. I don't hate it. I'm just not. I don't think I just didn't see it at a young age. Yep. Yeah. Can't relate. Yep. Because with the red hair, obviously. Obviously, of course. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Trails Ahoy. Trails Ahoy. Which one do you want to do first? Jumanji 3 or Knives Out? Knives Out. Okay. Looks good. Rian Johnson.
Starting point is 00:14:37 Rian Johnson. You're doing a murder mystery. Yeah. Harkens back to one of his previous movies The Brothers Bloom which was like a con artist kind of movie it's fun you're a big fan of that it's fine I like that one do you like it more than Looper?
Starting point is 00:14:50 yes your favourite movie Looper? I don't like Looper that means it's your number one favourite movie no Looper's a bad movie and I don't like it but I like more of his work
Starting point is 00:14:58 than I don't yeah is that the only one of his that you don't like maybe? is it Looper? yeah I think so do you like Brick? I assume I like Brick and you like The Last Jedi which means all other opinions that you don't like, maybe? Is it Looper? Yeah, I think so. Do you like Brick? I assume I like Brick.
Starting point is 00:15:05 And you like The Last Jedi, which means all other opinions that you say are invalid. Invalid, exactly, yes. All-star cast, Christopher Plummer. Yeah. Daniel Craig. Christopher Evans. Jamie Lee Curtis. Yes.
Starting point is 00:15:15 Oh, Chris Evans is playing way against type. I love it. Or more towards, you know, the type when he started acting. Yeah, what he used to do. You know, like Scott Pilgrim. Yeah. His version of Johnny Storm is just, you know, like a frat boy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:28 Moron or whatever. It looks good. I'm excited for this. And if you're like, I wonder if the movie Knives Out is going to contain a lot of knives, you will not be disappointed. There are so many knives for some reason. For some reason? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:40 It's probably related to the... The murder. The murder. Thank you. Yeah. For admitting it. I mean, it's a trailer. I will say this 100%. Yeah. It's probably related to the... The murder. The murder. Thank you for admitting it. I mean, it's a trailer. I will say this 100%.
Starting point is 00:15:47 Yeah. Hopefully. I mean, unless it comes out and people are like, it's bad, and then I'll catch it later. Right. What was the last sort of original whodunit? Oh, well, you're thinking of Murder Mystery on Netflix, Mason. Of course, yes.
Starting point is 00:15:58 That's what you're thinking of. Yeah. I saw that. You thought it was fine. It's fine. It's totally fine. Okay, great. Yeah, it's kind of fun.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Very good. And before that was Murder on the R&D Express fine yeah it's kind of fun very good and before that was Murder on the Orange Express but that's not on a ridge is it no I guess a Sherlock but again
Starting point is 00:16:09 that's also not yeah good I'm looking forward to a fresh take yeah what will 2019 slash 2020 bring us
Starting point is 00:16:16 in terms of whodunits this movie and probably another Poirot movie yeah just for bloody Dave bloody Warnocky to sink his
Starting point is 00:16:24 sink his teeth into. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. The other one is, of course, Jumanji 3. Everybody's characters have been switched in the video game world. Some of the characters. The Rock is Danny DeVito. Danny DeVito, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:36 Danny Glover is Kevin Hart. Yep. Jack Black is someone else or something. Correct, yes. I don't remember who's who. Fridge. Yeah. Karen Gillan's character is the same.
Starting point is 00:16:46 The same. And some of the characters don't get a look in at all. Yes. They're in the trailer. The original teens from the original movie are still in it, but are they going to be new characters or are they going to be like cheering from the sidelines? Because it appears in this one that your main guy
Starting point is 00:17:02 who was portraying The Rock in the previous movie has gone missing. He might be a Nick Jonas. He's rebuilt. Or maybe he's rebuilt the Jumanji cartridge and he's been sucked back into the game. Man. Why would you rebuild the cartridge? You barely got out last time. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:17:16 What were you thinking? Because he's lonely for friends. That's probably right. Yeah. Do you think that's it? Do you think that's the plot? Because at the end they were like, we're going to be friends forever. Do you think they're going to do a quick retcon of like...
Starting point is 00:17:27 We're friends for a little bit. Yeah, but now we're not friends. Because now we're not in a Jumanji situation. Exactly, yeah. Yeah. But then he brings them back into a Jumanji 3 situation. Yeah. I think it's a kind of smart way to do it to different characters,
Starting point is 00:17:39 like now The Rock and whoever has to do a different thing. I think that's good. That's good. And it gets them to kind of flex their acting muscles. And? Their regular muscles. Thank you. Yes.
Starting point is 00:17:52 So that's good. I, having recently rewatched that last Jumanji, Jack Black's great in that. Yeah, he is. He's really good. And the others are also good. They're all good in it. It's a good movie, I think, maybe.
Starting point is 00:18:03 Yeah. I didn't say it at the cinema. I think you did, didn't you? I did, yeah. There you go. Do you remember the original? Sort of. I'm not a huge fan.
Starting point is 00:18:11 No. There was a reference in the sequel. Alan Parrish was here. No repercussions for that, no. No. It never comes up again. The Jumanji that he kind of describes in the original movie. Actually, I do like that original one, I think.
Starting point is 00:18:22 Anyway, the Jumanji that he describes in that one is more terrifying than the Jumanji we actually see. Yeah, like when he comes out of the jungle and he's just wild. Oh, yeah, yeah. And he's talking about spiders and demons and things and hunters coming to get him. But it's just cargo pants and motorbikes and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:18:41 That's what it really is, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're right. That original character probably does become Nick Jonas because Nick Jonas in the previous one was Colin Hanks. Exactly. Colin Hanks ain't going back. He's got a family to take care of.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Yeah. But you can't really die. He's got Metallica t-shirts to wear. That's true. He does. Which era? Black? Ride the Lightning.
Starting point is 00:19:00 It was looked like maybe Ride the Lightning. St. Anger? St. Anger. Yeah. Yeah. Some kind of monster. Or is that theer? St. Anger. Yeah, yeah. Some kind of monster. Or is that the documentary?
Starting point is 00:19:07 That's the documentary, yes. I started to watch that. It's just a lot of just men being grumpy with each other. Yeah, just middle-aged men. Just not very interesting. I thought it would be more interesting. Is that a lot of being like, why are we still doing this? Lars, we fucking hate you, Lars. Remember that time you did that with Napster?
Starting point is 00:19:24 Remember that? You got in a that with napster remember that you got in a beef with napster i mean you were right i guess in many ways you were right you should be paid fairly for your efforts in a way i did actually i've seen the oasis documentary oh supersonic yeah have you seen it i it's on my list of something that i have to get it's good it's a lot of like i'm gonna keep it on my list until i attempt to watch it one day and it's gone it's good i'm gonna check right now to see if it's still there. Please do. But it's a lot of like, I hate my fucking brother.
Starting point is 00:19:49 And that's both of them. Yeah. That's either of them. I was going to say which brother, but it's irrelevant. But it's interesting. God, they're fuckwits though. Oh, I'm sorry. I find them fascinating.
Starting point is 00:19:58 One's more than the other. Liam is worse, I think. But, you know, good on them. They did the thing. But that's the thing. Like, they kind of, you know good on them they did the thing but that's the thing like they kind of you know it's definitely more Liam
Starting point is 00:20:08 I feel I feel we've even talked about Oasis on this podcast but I feel like again they went from they went from a band that was kind of like it's like pub gigs
Starting point is 00:20:17 yeah they were doing fine and they released like a couple of maybe one or two albums and all the music press had been like, this is fine. And then they released What's the Story, Morning Glory, and all the music press were like, this is fine, but who cares? And then like six months later, they're the biggest band in the world. Like that's got to mess with your brain a lot.
Starting point is 00:20:39 Also the cocaine probably messes with your brain. It's probably a combination of things. Probably a combination of things, yeah. There you go. Anyway, is it on your list? It is on my list. It's still there. Is it on Netflix? Watch it tomorrow. It's probably a combination of things. Probably a combination of things, yeah. Yeah. There you go. Anyway, is it on your list? It is on my list. It's still there. Is it on Netflix?
Starting point is 00:20:48 Watch it tomorrow. It's on Stan. Okay. Now that you've looked at it, it's going to disappear. I've said it, so I better watch it tonight. Is there somebody at Stan and Netflix listening? Listening to this. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:20:59 I suspect there is. Yeah. I mean, we've got some listeners. Maybe there's a Stan employee. There's a chance, isn't there? Yeah. You want some news on The Flash? It's got a director maybe, Orrin Talks.
Starting point is 00:21:10 It doesn't, though, does it? Well, even if it does. I'll believe any of this when I see it. Even when the trailer comes out, I'll be like, is it really or is this test footage, you know? That's a good and valid question. But Andy Machete, who's... I'm sorry, what?
Starting point is 00:21:24 Andy Machete. Is that spelt the way. But Andy Machete, who's... I'm sorry, what? Andy Machete. Is that spelt the way you'd expect Machete? Sorry, M-U-C-H-E-T-T-I. Oh, right. That was good. Much Etty, it could be. Muschetti? Yeah, it could be Muschetti.
Starting point is 00:21:35 Where's my Muschetti? Thank you. Here he is, maybe directing a Flash movie. What else has he done? I've never heard of Muschetti. He's done the It movies. Oh, I like that. I like those movies.
Starting point is 00:21:44 He's good. At least one of them. At least one of those movies those i'm assuming the other one will be of equal quality the trailer for the other one you also enjoyed i did that's true yeah so we'll see won't we yeah about this i can't believe i didn't bunch this together with the dc news i think that that says to people that this is not a professional situation and i don't like that i don't like it comes the podcast or dc generally is not a professional i like to maintain a level slightly above the dc field slate and i think we maintain it yeah that's i mean that's a low bar to pass but we've done it we usually do it most weeks i think
Starting point is 00:22:14 what we do is if if we on the way out of here we look at your justice league lanyard yes and we and some most weeks we go we beat you yeah we got you not this week yeah some weeks we just turn it around so they're not looking at us okay so i've spelt this well wrong it's m u m u s c h i e t t i not that you care i know you don't but that's the situation italian for mosquito it might be yeah good question well i'm checking if he's done anything else relating to superheroes not really so it's like, yeah. He also was the set production assistant on Evita in 1996. He's moving up in the world.
Starting point is 00:22:50 A musical, which is bad. I saw it recently. Oh, yes. Do not like it. One more bit of news. Two more bits of news. Two more bits of news. Is that you attempting to build some sort of layer of professionalism?
Starting point is 00:23:02 Absolutely it is. You're going to have to do that every time now. That's right. Once we reach the two more bits of news level. So the creator of Akira, Kat, I'm sorry, everybody. Kat Shihiro, Kat Suhiro. Yes. Or Tomo's.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Yes. Tomo. I could probably edit that into something, can't I? You can do it later. It's fine. But keep all that in. Yes. And then just that in. Yes. And then just a second of silence and then maybe a perfect pronunciation,
Starting point is 00:23:29 maybe from YouTube. Yeah, or Levens. Yeah, great. Levens could definitely do it. He's doing a brand new anime series based on the original Akira manga. Oh, yeah. It's going to be a more faithful adaptation because, as we both know, especially me, who's a big fan of...
Starting point is 00:23:45 You're the guy who knows everything about anime. 100% and manga. Yeah. That's right. Guess what's this? Avatar Last Airbender. Not an anime or a manga. It's actually an American production.
Starting point is 00:23:57 It obviously takes its stylistic influences from... I'm listening. Some properties from the East. The Land of the Rising Sun. Correct. And such, the movie. Yes. What's that short cottery movie?
Starting point is 00:24:11 Rising Sun. Yeah. It's good, isn't it? No. Correct. And that's what I'm saying. That's great. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:18 Okay. Different properties. From what I understand, he's doing a new version. Yep. And I think they're doing a 4K re-release of the original. Yes. And they're also doing, I think, a new super oversized, complete re-translation of the original manga for English speaking.
Starting point is 00:24:35 People will love that, won't they? Because they love a re-translation of subs and dubs and et cetera and so forth. I'm kind of excited for that. Me too. It's going to be like 1,000 pages. I'm trying to think back because I've seen Akira and read it multiple times, all of it. But I'm thinking I'm going to go back into somebody
Starting point is 00:24:51 who's never seen it and just kind of watch it with fresh eyes. So put yourself in the mindset of a man who's ignorant of what you're talking about currently. Yeah, it's going to be difficult, obviously. Yeah, for sure, because you know everything about those things. Yes. Are you a fan? Yes. Yeah, cool sure, because you know everything about those things. Yes. Yeah. Are you a fan?
Starting point is 00:25:06 Yes. Yeah, cool. Well, then you'll love this, maybe. I mean, not as much. Again, I think every time I go into like JB Hi-Fi or whatever, I'll see like there's a super special edition. Yeah. And it's got like the score on an LP and like the Blu-ray
Starting point is 00:25:20 and all that's in the art book. You see the word Akira and then the guy, the main guy from Akira, Jason Akira. Yes. In some translations, I should point out. People might not be familiar with the one I'm talking about. And then it's his red Akira bike, which is also called Akira. That's correct, yes.
Starting point is 00:25:37 Akira 2000 is the name of his bike. In some translations. But so you see that and you're like, I'm going to go in this time? Every time I'm like, ooh. Yeah. No. Maybe this is the time. Maybe this is the one.
Starting point is 00:25:50 Yeah. So, look, and the thing about this is it's not going to wipe away the old Akira if you love the movie. But there are a lot of people who are fans of the original. My understanding is that they're okay with this. Like another more faithful version. Exactly. Yeah. And there you go.
Starting point is 00:26:04 The main guy's name is Kaneda. What? But his bike's name is Kaneda. What? But his bike's name is Kaneda 2000. Yes. He's named his bike after himself. We all know. Okay, cool. Not all of us know, obviously.
Starting point is 00:26:13 The experts in the room, me and you, know that. We know that, yeah. Neil Gaiman's Sandman is coming to Netflix. The DC streaming service is dead, right? Seemingly, yes. Because why would this be happening? And again, that could very well be this AT&T acquisition because they're like, well, this isn't immediately making a billion dollars, so it's out.
Starting point is 00:26:34 But the Sandman was never going to make a billion dollars. It's not a billion dollar property, is it? Sandman or Swamp Thing? No, Sandman. Yeah, right. I'm just saying, because why wouldn't it go to the DC streaming? That's true, yeah. Is what I'm saying, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:40 Sandman. Yeah, right. I'm just saying, like, because why wouldn't it go to the DC streaming? That's true, yeah. Is what I'm saying, yeah. I mean, I guess, like, there's other properties on there, like the Black Bolt, Black Lightning, one of them's on there. Black Lightning's on Netflix, yeah. And that's a DC one.
Starting point is 00:26:52 And Lucifer is on there. Oh, yeah, there you go. So, you know. But is that only on Netflix here, though, and not? No, I think it is, I think in America it's on Netflix as well. Wow. Because there was a, hey, Netflix, save Lucifer campaign, I think. And they went, all right.
Starting point is 00:27:06 God, I guess. We have to. Let's check our algorithm. Will it get us some new viewers? Oh, yeah, we're heavily in debt. Yeah, we'll do it. Why not? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:15 Somebody will buy this before. Disney will buy us before. That's, yeah, maybe. Yeah. Or AT&T. Yeah. But so David Goyer's doing it, which is, I mean, you don't have to get David Goyer for every DC property, do you?
Starting point is 00:27:29 No. You can ask someone else. Absolutely can ask somebody else, yeah. I mean, he's done some good stuff, but not all of it. And also Alan R. Heinberg, who worked on the Wonder Woman movie and also the Young Avengers comic. Oh, cool. So yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:42 So we're finally getting Sandman, or are we? Well, that's the thing. But also, when I think of a David Goyer... Yeah. Blade III. That's what you're thinking. Blade III, absolutely. He wrote Batman Superman.
Starting point is 00:27:55 Yeah. What did he have to do with the Dark Knight trilogy? Co-writer or something. Yeah, right. Yeah, I don't know. That's a mostly Nolan thing, like the Nolan brothers together, but I don't. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:08 I don't really know. Oh, he did an early screenplay for Master of the Universe. Oh, he did Terminator Dark Fate. But that's not out yet. I know. Don't judge it yet. He's working on Krypton. I'm on Krypton.
Starting point is 00:28:20 He did some uncredited writing on Godzilla. I feel we do. I bet you could put together Just a super cut of us Explaining to each other who David Goyer is From previous episodes Because I feel we do it every single time I know
Starting point is 00:28:33 Who's this guy again? I'm just like he did Man of Steel So yeah he wrote Batman v Superman He wrote Man of Steel Dark Knight Rises he did He did Spirit of Vengeance Oh Ghost Rider 2 That's right He did Spirit of Vengeance. Yeah. Oh, I guess so too.
Starting point is 00:28:45 That's right. He did the screenplay for Jumper. He worked on the Blade TV series. That's when the Blade TV series came out. Guess. 2004. Wow. It was 2006.
Starting point is 00:28:55 I thought it was like much later. So you had a better idea than I did. Price is right rules. But he also wrote Blade 2. But he also directed Blade 3. But maybe that was not going to be good anyway, despite all... This guy's another one of these mixed bag guys. He's very much a mixed bag.
Starting point is 00:29:11 And I think it greatly depends on who he's working with. Yeah. Because again, like this could be... Again, like Lucifer is from the Sandman universe and he is Lucifer. The TV version is Lucifer in the loosest possible sense there is. The loose... I'm not following. I can't pun that because it's the same word.
Starting point is 00:29:30 Lucifer. It's just Lucifer in terms of loose. Oh, yep. Like it doesn't... I couldn't even convey to you what I was trying to do then. No, I got what you were trying to do. Oh, you were slending. And I decided not to help you out, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Just dangle in the breeze. Yep, exactly. Yeah, but that version is just... they've just gone bare bones the character. He's Lucifer. He's on Earth. Let's say he runs a nightclub. Now it's a police procedural. So what if they just go, okay, Sandman, he's the Lord of Dreams.
Starting point is 00:29:58 He's an abstract concept. He runs a bar. He runs a bowling alley, I was going to say. The guy from Monks in Sidekick. Fuck whatever. Exactly, yeah. Yeah. So I don't know.
Starting point is 00:30:08 I think they'd probably go more kind of hardcore. You'd hope so. I imagine. Did we say Netflix? Yeah, I think this will come out. Yeah, because like, yeah, again, based on the Goya track record, I'm like, well, is he going to go super abstract and high concept and special effects and war for the universe kind of situation? Or is he just going to be like, yeah, yeah, laundromat yeah that's right can we do a similar thing a lot of people dream in a laundromat you know that's true they have a little nap yeah they're waiting
Starting point is 00:30:34 for their sheets yeah in the dryer i did i tend depending where you are you can go somewhere else put your clothes no one's stealing your wet clothes exactly yeah yeah they might dump them in a basket if it's full that's the extent of it. And you come back and you're like, who did this? Who did this? One of my socks is missing. It's my favourite sock. Yeah, so good.
Starting point is 00:30:53 I've still got to finish Sandman. What I know about Lucifer is, I can't say I'm a huge fan, but I see the picture and he's looking through a wine glass and it's red and half of his face is the devil's face and I'm like, oh, he's the devil.
Starting point is 00:31:04 That's right. That's what I know., he's the devil. That's right. That's what I know. It's a subtle clue. He is. Very good. He is. That's the last bit of news. All right.
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Starting point is 00:34:02 Apparently he filmed this right around the corner from his house some of it Oh Yeah And his house is a fish and chip shop That's right He lives above it Yes Fried Mars bars
Starting point is 00:34:10 He mans the till on Sunday mornings Good for him You want to go down Bit of extra pocket money you know Why wouldn't he want a shilling or two That's right For his efforts He went all the way to Hollywood
Starting point is 00:34:20 Hollywood only to come back to his hometown What am I doing Box office Hollandwood Hollandwood. That's what we call England because that's where he lives. 124 four-day weekend, 180 since it opened in the US. Seems good.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Yes, it is. It opened very early, like Monday or Tuesday, depending where you are in the world. We got it Monday, didn't we? And it will hit 500 million worldwide by the time this goes out, it seems. So it's made its budget back and then some, and it's probably going to hit a billion, I'd say. I'm going to say people like Spider-Man. They do like Spider-Man.
Starting point is 00:34:54 I'm putting my reputation on the line and saying people enjoy Tom Holland and Spider-Man. And I think also the MCU that's coming off the back of Endgame and so forth. And Jon Favreau's Happy Hogan. Yes, they do like him. Mm-hmm. Happying about. What's he doing?
Starting point is 00:35:09 Well, I mean, think about it. What's the one thing that ties together Avengers Endgame? Spider-Man Far From Home. Jon Favreau. That's true. Yeah. It's the link. That is the link.
Starting point is 00:35:18 And Spider-Man. Who? People love Happy Hogan. They love Happy Hogan. And that's why this will make a billion dollars. What's he going to do? Is he going to be out of breath and running around? Yes.
Starting point is 00:35:30 Is he going to be attempting to futilely fight somebody way more skilled than him? Yes. Not as much in this one. Not as much. What did you think the story was? Oh, no. Gotcha. Gotcha.
Starting point is 00:35:42 Gotcha. Okay. Well, it's funny. Spoiler alert. Not really. But it's post-endgame. We're going to do non-, well, it's bloody... Spoiler alert. Not really, but it's post-Endgame. We're going to do non-spoilers and spoilers for Spider-Man. It's time code. Yeah, Avengers Endgame.
Starting point is 00:35:52 Everybody's back. Yep. It's a little bit confusing. Yep. Everybody's returned from the blip. From the bloop. And you know what? It's a real stressful time for everybody,
Starting point is 00:36:00 but it's the end of the school semester. Woo! So let's go on holiday. Woo! Yeah. And so Peter Parker and all his friends who luckily were all snapped five years ago
Starting point is 00:36:12 and are all back. Or are dumb and have not moved up. Correct, yes. Is that really his deal? That one guy? Which one? The guy. The guy who's 21 now or whatever. There's one guy. Who's 21? Really? The older guy. No, didn't he grow up? Wasn't he a kid when they left and then he grew up to be handsome? Yeah, that's 21 now or whatever. There's one guy. Who's 21? Really? The older guy. No, didn't he grow up?
Starting point is 00:36:27 Wasn't he a kid when they left and then he grew up to be handsome? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, he wasn't kept down. He was like 13 or younger. He was like 11. Oh, I see. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:36:35 Okay. And now he's 16 or whatever. Yeah, yeah. But there must be one in there who's been kept down. Absolutely. Yeah. Anyway, they've all gone on holiday. They're on a field trip to Europe.
Starting point is 00:36:45 But there's action afoot. Yeah. You know what I mean? A mysterious elemental situation has presented itself. And Nick Fury's like, Spider-Man, we need you. And Spider-Man's like, God fucking damn it. Everything. Just want to kiss a girl.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Want to kiss a girl and not wear a tight Spider-Man suit. But he has to do both. He has to do both. He has to do both. Exactly. I think it's good. Uh-huh, yes. What do you think? What does that mean?
Starting point is 00:37:12 I like it. You've damned that with faint praise, haven't you? I just think it's very back-heavy in terms of the things that I enjoyed. Okay. What didn't you like about the movie? No, I didn't not like really any of it. i just think it kind of gets more interesting as it goes oh no not a movie that gets more interesting as you watch it no that sounds awful i'd much rather a movie that gets boring as you watch it i understand what you're saying i got you said what i'm saying the most
Starting point is 00:37:39 the most mocking you i know what you're saying i get it yep uh but i just think because it culminates in something, even in the post-credits, which is probably the most interesting thing of the entire film. Oh, I see. Maybe it's weighted unevenly in terms of that. But that's, yeah, I guess, like you said, it's better than the opposite.
Starting point is 00:37:55 But I also think that that works because we have just had 11 years of leading up to the biggest event. And, you know, in this one we see we i i when i saw it i think we saw you know the the the aftermath of the snap and there were still people in the cinema being like oh my oh yeah i forgot about that yeah oh no yeah i remember when everybody died and then they came back it's good how they i like how they kind of yeah it's not it's not even i was gonna say brush over it they don't brush over it they address it directly but it's really quick it's like yeah i think that's really for the most part all we're gonna say but i think i think we
Starting point is 00:38:31 needed that i think we needed to start off because we don't need 30 minutes of this person's wife got remarried and they had and now they've got another kid or whatever you don't need any i mean those things are problems exist in the universe for sure. I mean, maybe a short film about that. Yeah, I'll watch it. If they bring back the Marvel shorts, which they won't. Well, I did a deleted scenes video on this video, on this particular movie. But there is, there's a bunch of stuff they cut out where Peter's going to collect his stuff for his trip.
Starting point is 00:38:56 And including, he's got a list of things to do, including a mob boss fight. He has to fight. He has to defeat the Manfredi Moss, not Moss. Moss Man. He has to defeat Moss He has to defeat the Manfredi Moss, not Moss. Moss Man. He has to defeat Moss Man from the universe. He has to defeat the Manfredi mob, which is headed by the cyborg Silvermane, a character I maintain should be in one of these movies but never is. Maybe they are.
Starting point is 00:39:17 Yeah, maybe he was in this deleted scene. We didn't see that. We didn't see any of it. That whole thing, because that's in the trailer, the whole bit where he's in the Iron Spider suit and he defeats this mob and then he tells the cops that he's doing their job and then he's going on vacation. None of that's in it at all. No, it's not.
Starting point is 00:39:30 I don't think it matters, though, to be honest. No, I don't think so either. I think it's, because this is two hours and nine, so it's much shorter, an hour than the Avengers. But this, in it or out, I don't think it, I don't feel cheated by that not being in there. What is the opening scene again? He does collect some stuff, I guess,
Starting point is 00:39:47 but it's mostly him packing and then he just goes to Europe. Like they're at school and then they leave. What's more, this movie is, again, you're right in the sense that this movie starts off as just more of a teens going on vacation movie and then it turns into an action movie by like act one and a half. Yeah, that's it. And an action movie by like act one and a half. Yeah, that's it. And the action in itself increases tenfold. And there's a turning point in this movie where there's very distinct points where the stakes are raised significantly.
Starting point is 00:40:15 For sure, yeah. Yeah, but it's funny as well, I think, for the most part. Would you agree with that? I would agree with that. Peter Parker, Tom Holland is really good as Peter Parker. I think there's things about that character that I think may be a problem down the line, which we'll get to in spoilers because of certain events in this universe and responsibilities and such. But also, it's not the comics version, is it?
Starting point is 00:40:39 It's a different version. Yeah, and again, I think maybe we talked about this last week or the week before, that this version of the character he did grow up you know in queens and uh you know his aunts he and his aunt up there well off kind of thing but at this point he's kind of like he's in the upper echelon of the stark yeah uh corporation really exactly like he's sort of and and he'll you know unless there's some weird extenuating circumstances he'll never be just a poor kid anymore so he's that that version is kind of i mean i'm sure there are ways to do that oh absolutely and also in the comics he's friends with all the richest superheroes and yeah right
Starting point is 00:41:14 and there's been times when he's aren't sick and he's like i won't go to tony stark for nothing that son of a bitch or whatever so you know it's kind of the comics kind of the same but they mostly just i think people are more forgiving of comics being entirely separate. For sure, yeah. Because these are so intertwined, these movies, that you kind of can't escape it. Anyway, I really like MJ. I like that they're leaning into, it just is MJ now.
Starting point is 00:41:36 They're not kind of dancing around. It's like, this is good. Because I feel like in the last movie they were like, by the way, it's MJ, see you later. Right. It's fine. Yeah, sure. And I like her in the role and I like Ned.
Starting point is 00:41:46 And all the school friends. Yeah. I think they're all convincing teenagers. This movie is quite Martin Starr slash J.B. Smoove heavy. You sure? The supporting cast gets way more play in this than the previous movie, which is nice. I like those guys, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:01 Did Martin Starr, he wasn't in The Snap, was he? I don't think he was. He talks about his wife at one point. No, he wasn't. No, but his wife did leave him. Yes. Pretending that... Oh, yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:42:12 Which means he mustn't have been in The Snap. Now, there was another hero in this movie, Mason, of course. Mysterio. It's you, the viewer. That's right. And thanks, yeah, and the viewer for purchasing a ticket and keeping bloody cinema alive. That's right. That's what I mean, yes. And Mysterio And thanks, yeah, and the viewer for purchasing a ticket and keeping bloody cinema alive. That's right.
Starting point is 00:42:25 That's what I mean, yes. And Mysterio. Sure, yeah. He turns up to help battle the Elementals. They've changed him a bit from the comics. We'll talk about that more in spoilers, I guess. But what do you think of all those situations? Mysterio's outfit's great, obviously.
Starting point is 00:42:39 Absolutely, yeah. We get a cape. We get a fishbowl. It's all we've ever wanted. Yeah, man. He's shooting glyphs and shit. Gyllenhaal's performance is really good, I think. He's very good in this.
Starting point is 00:42:50 You really feel for the guy. You know what I mean? I feel it. The things that you're saying. More on him later, though. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And also, of course, Nick Fury, Maria Hill and such and so forth.
Starting point is 00:43:02 Yeah. There was a lot of this move where I'm like, why are they getting Spider-Man to do this? Get someone else. But that becomes very clear later. Oh, yeah, right. But again, we can't really get into that and spoilers. I think there's some CGI flipping and Spider-Man-y stuff which doesn't look entirely convincing or real in this.
Starting point is 00:43:22 Interesting. I think it might be the suit because it's so form-fitting and smooth. It doesn't wrinkle and crease like real clothing. So he does seem sometimes like just a rubber ball just kind of bouncing around. Oh, right. Okay. Sure, sure. Yeah, because I remember when The Amazing Spider-Man 2, it opens with
Starting point is 00:43:37 Peter Parker's name. Here comes another bloody Amazing Spider-Man 2 bloody anecdote. Here we go. This is all he's got. Just Amazing Spider-Man 2 anecdotes. Remember it opens out he's falling out of the sky or whatever. To be clear, I don't. Whatever you're going to say, I don he's got. Just Amazing Spider-Man 2 anecdotes. Remember it opens up, he's falling out of the sky or whatever. To be clear, I don't.
Starting point is 00:43:47 Whatever you're going to say, I don't remember what happened in Amazing Spider-Man 2. Anyway, he's falling out of the sky at the start. This doesn't seem plausible, but alright. Yeah, he's jumped off a building and you see the suit. It's skin tight, but you can see the edges of it are kind of flapping in the breeze. There's none of that. I know it's a special nanotech or whatever, but I think that's a problem with some of these suits.
Starting point is 00:44:04 I think the Iron Man suit has gone this way because it's not really a physical thing that kind of clunks over him anymore it's not that interesting just to be like it's just in my jacket and all these particles come out now i'm wearing the iron yeah i don't think it's like i enjoyed the suit up scenes a lot more when they were yeah we do because we only we don't really get the iron spider suit in this movie we get we see Because you can't take it through an airport. Well, yeah, we see it on him. You see it on the trailer. There's kind of a charity event that he's wearing.
Starting point is 00:44:31 I think it looks great. Yeah, I agree. But then later we see it, and he sort of stores it in his bedroom in like a nanotech tank kind of thing, and it just sort of swirls around. It's cool. Yeah, it is cool. Yeah. But again, impractical.
Starting point is 00:44:44 Don't put your head in that either. Don't put your head in there. It'll scramble your brain. Oh cool. Yeah. Yeah. But again, impractical. Don't put your head in that either. Don't put your head in there. It'll scramble your brain. Oh, my God. Yeah. Your face will be on the back of your head. You don't want that. You don't want that.
Starting point is 00:44:51 So, yeah. So, I think some of it is, yeah, I found, on the most part, really good, but some of it a bit kind of bouncy. Okay. Kind of. I didn't really think about it, but if I go to watch it again, that'll be the only thing I say. Great.
Starting point is 00:45:03 Well, I'm glad I've ruined this experience for you no problem uh this is mostly this all the stuff i have to say is kind of spoiler related but did you like the action scenes i did like the action sequences there's one particular moment which is very drawn from the comics which is excellent oh and you probably know what i'm talking about oh he's taking his glasses off and they're back on oh yeah it's really good thank you that was just for me and i appreciate it but uh yeah do you know what i'm talking about well probably not i'm sure you do what else do you want to say here do you want to go spoilers uh let me think no it's well worth your time i think it's good and it's a good yeah i think it revitalizes the mcu to a certain degree like if you were like oh my god i hope there's no
Starting point is 00:45:44 more of these movies because I'm so tired. I felt a bit like that after Endgame, like I need a break. And this was kind of a nice reprieve. And I think, again, I think it starts out slow and it ramps up. Like a lot of, there's a lot of action in this. And it's kind of like a, it's kind of a roller coaster. It's a bit, it's towards the end. I'm like, boy, this is a bit... There was a lot of action
Starting point is 00:46:05 in this. It was kind of exhausting, but I think it eased us in. So I think if it was non-stop action roller coaster from minute one, I think I'd be exhausted. But...
Starting point is 00:46:13 I'm not. He's not exhausted. I'm going to say best movie ever. I'm also going to say best movie ever. Yeah, I think it's like a bit better than like an Ant-Man,
Starting point is 00:46:20 but not great for me. Where does it fit in for you? I think it's in the upper echelon just because it's... The character's very likeable. It was a good, fun kind of teen adventure movie. I think the performances are great. Again, Gyllenhaal, very good. Very good.
Starting point is 00:46:34 Very good. Very good. Very good. Very good. Good. Spoilers? Yes. Spoilers.
Starting point is 00:46:43 He's a villain I mean we knew that Because comics and such Oh yeah for sure But I thought Even though the reveal you see coming I wasn't I was kind of caught off guard
Starting point is 00:46:54 By how villainous and vicious he was Yeah right He was so mean And really deceptive And charming But the worst Yeah see that's the performance That I'm enjoying
Starting point is 00:47:03 Because he really Had we not known, you know, and I guess there's no way for us to not. The only way they could have done it is to make him a different villain. Or if you didn't know him from the comics. Yes, exactly. I think if you didn't know, I'd be very curious if there are people out there who have never read a Spider-Man comic or don't know anything about Mysterio
Starting point is 00:47:23 who watched it and were, you know, were you taken aback yeah by the turn or were you like no i saw that coming because you know he's purple and green and he has a fishbowl on his head yeah yeah yeah he shoots green smoke out of his hands yes absolutely so yeah but i enjoyed the and the element that i didn't know was that he that i liked he wasn't a special effects guy he used to work for tony stark he created barf yes and he's the disgruntled employer i thought that was a really good way that I liked. He wasn't a special effects guy. He used to work for Tony Stark. He created Bath. Yes. And he's the disgruntled employer. I thought that was a really good way to work it into the universe.
Starting point is 00:47:51 Which leads to the question, is the next Spider-Man 3 going to be once again Spider-Man cleaning up another Tony Stark mess? Because that's what both of these have been. It's just Tony Stark's mistakes that he's just handballed over to the kid to fix. To the 16-year-old kid. Yeah, right?
Starting point is 00:48:10 I hope the next... Like, I like this. And again, you know, with superhero stuff, often the villainous theme is always the same. And with Spider-Man, you know, in the comics, it's always like a weird misfit of science or an experiment gone wrong or a guy who's given himself
Starting point is 00:48:26 a scorpion tail or whatever. But again, I don't want the next one to be just like, yeah, and then Tony Stark put all these bombs around the world, you know, which he kind of did in this. I guess he did, yeah. He built a giant satellite of killer drones. I'm so glad I didn't see it because there's a trailer that gives away the satellite of killer drones.
Starting point is 00:48:44 Is there? Yeah, I thought that was my funniest moment where he accidentally activates them and then you see this enormous satellite just come into orbit. Yeah. Yeah, this is the ramifications of this tiny thing that he's just kind of said. Yeah. No, I liked that. But I liked that the Mysterio team was revealed to be disgruntled Stark employees.
Starting point is 00:49:05 Yeah, for sure. At first when they were like, this is the guy from Iron Man 1, and I'm like, that's incredible. I should have seen that coming because he was just standing in the background. It's that guy. I know that actor. He's a producer apparently. Oh, is he?
Starting point is 00:49:16 Yeah, and he – And he's that kid from that Christmas movie or whatever. Oh, it's – it'll come to me later. But he shaves his head for the role. Yes, he does. And then I'm like, well, who are these? Shave your head. But, oh, I couldn't shave a bald patch to my head.
Starting point is 00:49:30 It might be a cap thing. No, he shaves his head. In Iron Man 1, he shaved his head. He definitely did. You see it in the making of, yeah. Wow. Yeah. No, thank you.
Starting point is 00:49:38 No. Because what if it doesn't come back, basically? That's what I'm talking about. He's in A Christmas Story. Yes, that's the one. I was, when they were like, like and this employee you were sick of him too and i'm like oh who's this person nah nobody yeah it's just only one i thought i thought they were gonna get others so that was a bit disappointing but the i i that drone technology is and the holograms and such is the perfect because if they were like yeah tony stark Stark made a bunch of drones that could hologram anything or whatever, I'd be like, okay, when?
Starting point is 00:50:08 And for what purpose? But that was from a movie three years ago that we saw that. And the way that they brought it back, I thought it was really good. Yes. We always, I think there was some speculation that Bath was going to be used in Endgame. Yeah. We talked about that.
Starting point is 00:50:22 And I think the directors of Endgame talked about it. Yeah, right. But I guess they were referring to this, so. Oh, they're sneaky. Gumball's sneaky, sneaky. They're good. But then I think back to, like, the battle that Mysterio is having with the Elementals,
Starting point is 00:50:33 and I'm like, how much of this is him? Like, none, I guess. Well, none, because if you remember correctly, there's a live version of the suit. Yeah. And there's a hologram version of the suit. And when he's fighting the Elementals, it's just a hologram flying about. suit yeah and when he's fighting the elementals
Starting point is 00:50:45 it's not him it's just a hologram flying about and then so he can't fly yes but he can though because he flies next to
Starting point is 00:50:50 Peter Parker remember the bit where he gives him the pep talk and he flies up next to him drone yeah maybe yeah I think it is a drone
Starting point is 00:50:58 but I feel like Peter Parker would have realised it was a drone nah because his Peter Tingle was on the fritz see I don't think it was on the fritz I just think it wasn't tuned to this situation. Because you know the bit where she throws the banana at him
Starting point is 00:51:08 and he doesn't catch it. I think he didn't catch it because it's a banana and he doesn't need to catch it. Well, see, that's why I thought that as well. The spider sense only operates when actual danger is happening. So if your aunt throws a banana at you, that's not a dangerous situation. Because when he does eventually overcome it,
Starting point is 00:51:25 he closes his eyes and he kind of focuses and he's not looking at what's happening. So I think that he just needed to kind of drown out the noise to be able to use it. That's what I thought. I don't think it actually just wasn't working, but maybe I've misinterpreted that. Mysterio tried to push him in front of a bloody train, though, didn't he?
Starting point is 00:51:43 He did push him in front of a train train though didn't he He did push him in front of a train Yeah That was pretty mean of him Is that a deliberate Is that an homage to the scene that was cut out of Spider-Man 2 Where Doctor Octopus throws Spider-Man into the path of a train So good Speaking of Caravan of Garbage this week
Starting point is 00:51:59 It's going to be on a Thursday to push it back My son was in hospital He's okay now He had influenza and pneumonia, and so everything's been pushed back a little bit. Thank you for your support, everybody. I just thought it would be different. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:10 So that's coming up Thursday. Sorry, but yeah, maybe. Maybe. Brutal though, right? Yes. And he doesn't walk it off, does he? He's like, he's hurt quite a bit. Great.
Starting point is 00:52:21 Okay, but the scene I was talking about, which was amazing, was the mysterio trip out scene oh yeah that's great yeah incredible yeah and it's all stuff from the comics where i'm sure i couldn't find it for my easter egg video link below people but like spider-man's inside mysterio's dome in his head is that a comic cover i think it might be i couldn't find it okay i'm sure i'd seen it somewhere it might be it might be internal pages or something. Who knows? But that scene was great. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:46 It was very reminiscent of the Arkham games. Yeah. When Batman fights the Scarecrow. Absolutely. And just everything gets super trippy. The Marvel zombies. Oh, so good. A chef's kiss, you say?
Starting point is 00:52:56 Yes. Bellissimo. And it's good that the Nick Fury, well, there's a few fake Nick Furies in this movie, but the Nick Fury he was talking to prior who he thought was real and on his side that
Starting point is 00:53:08 it was so many layers deep of deception that that wasn't even real either yeah so and I also enjoyed that Quentin Beck's
Starting point is 00:53:16 regular superhero suit is just a mocap suit me too I thought that was fun but he kept the fishbowl head yeah and it looks ridiculous because everybody
Starting point is 00:53:24 looks ridiculous in a mocap suit. But he's just, that's the thing. They're just his work clothes, you know? Yeah. I think the plan was good. Other things, you know? Yeah, probably.
Starting point is 00:53:34 Yeah. Did you like the new suit? Why are they all so disgruntled? Is it because Tony Starks? Well, I mean, of course he's a prick. But I mean, did he steal all their technology? Maybe Quentin Beck took him along for the ride or something. Yeah, maybe.
Starting point is 00:53:48 Or whatever. Because, you know, they'd all been belittled and yelled at by him and whatever. I mean, if he's employing X number of people, 10,000, you're going to get 20. Some disgruntled ones, yeah. That's true. Anyway, he dies or does he be dies? Absolutely good question. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:03 I think he did. But even if he's dead, he's got a team of people that can recreate question. Yeah. I think he did, but even if he's dead, he's got a team of people that can recreate him. Well, I was going to say, yeah. And that's maybe what happened at the end when it's revealed. Well, that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:54:14 If he's... Because he never says, he never reveals who... I guess that could be recorded footage. Should we talk about the post-credit sequences? Let's do it. We should, okay.
Starting point is 00:54:21 What's interesting about this movie is that both... In other Marvel movies, usually if there's two post-credit sequences, one's do it. We should, okay. What's interesting about this movie is that both, in other Marvel movies, usually if there's two post-credit sequences, one's a joke and one pushes the plot forward. One's a big cat knocking over a shipping container. Exactly. There were no big cats this time. No, both of these push the story forward.
Starting point is 00:54:36 Yeah, in ways that we can't even begin to imagine. We can imagine. But let's begin to imagine. Let's begin to imagine, yeah. Who's going to stop us? So the first one is the return of J.K. Simmons as J.J. and Jammie. Hooray!
Starting point is 00:54:48 That was spoiled for me prior. Ah, not me. No. Because on our videos we did for Spider-Man. Uh-huh. Because I saw it. It was spoiled for me
Starting point is 00:54:57 and I saw it on early screening. It was still spoiled for me. Wow. I saw it like four days before it came out. We didn't see it early, early screening. No, obviously not.
Starting point is 00:55:03 But like, because we were like, because we were like, you specifically were like, that's the best performance of anyone in any comic book movie ever. I don't know if it's the best performance, but it's certainly the most accurate performance. It's the most page to screen accurate performance. And you were like, who could ever replace him and whatever.
Starting point is 00:55:17 Because as that scene begins, we see sort of like a, you know, a breaking news thing. And I'm like, is this going to be J. Jonah Jameson? Bring back J. Jonah, who's it going to be? Is it going to be Marc Maron? It's going to be Ice Cube. It's going to be Ice Cube, exactly. Who is going to take the mantle of J. Jonah Jameson?
Starting point is 00:55:35 It's going to be Vanilla Ice. Yeah. He's got the hair. Exactly. Is it going to be Ice T? T-Pain? T-Pain, yeah. Back pain it's the concept of back pain oh i need a urophen yeah uh and but i'm like well i would i would have liked it to be marin but at the same
Starting point is 00:55:55 time i'm like not everybody knows knows or cares who mark marin is but i don't think that's relevant no i guess that's probably true i would have have taken Eddie Peppertone, would have been great. I don't know if you know who Eddie Peppertone is. Yeah, that would have been alright. But instead we got J.K. Simmons back as Jameson as a sort of a Breitbart. Yeah. Or like Info Wars, Alex Jones. Insane conspiracy theorist. Side of a building.
Starting point is 00:56:18 Yeah, and just kind of casually revealing Spider-Man's secret identity. Also, the greatest hero of the known, he's like Mysterio is the greatest villain of all time or whatever. Greatest hero of all time. Yeah, I mean, it's obviously,
Starting point is 00:56:31 it would be Captain America or Iron Man or the Hulk who brought everybody back. Like there are other options. Yeah, right. That one really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fake news I say. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:56:42 Yeah, so I was disappointed in Navey's haircut. Yeah. I mean, here's the thing though, but that's the thing, like because. Absolutely. Yeah, so I was disappointed in Navey's haircut. Yeah. I mean, here's the thing, though. But that's the thing, like, because it's comic books. Yeah. This could literally be anything. I mean, this could be an illusion solely for Spider-Man. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:56:55 Like, maybe no one on Earth is seeing it other than him. Yeah, that's right. That's step one. Yeah. I mean, there's a billion ways out of this. I'm curious as to to i'd be very curious as to know whether is it john watts's director yes is did he has he done this with full knowledge of where they're going to go with spider-man in the next couple of years or has he just gone
Starting point is 00:57:15 let's throw this out and see what the next director does with this he said i think he's coming back i think he said we just want to make the thing was like we want to make the best movie ever and you know we'll cross that bridge when we come to it but they must have a plan because I think what I was saying before my problem with something like this happening is you strip Peter Parker of a lot of things which make him interesting
Starting point is 00:57:35 and that being you know he's hard up for a buck and it's his secret identity he's trying to keep from everybody but if he's just Iron Man Spider-Man is just iron man that's not super compelling no that's true and yeah and i and i think you know this and he's got to go to school and he's got to work for the daily bugle well no no exactly yeah uh yeah and like the the m you know the this the mcu kind of for the most part has kind of put secret identities to the
Starting point is 00:58:02 wayside most people are aware of who Bruce Banner is and Captain America and Iron Man and all these characters. I would prefer to have more heroes who are working under the radar. Yeah, or some. With secret identities, yeah. Black Widow, she went in front of the UN and was like, I'm a spy and everybody's a spy also. Yeah, right, exactly, yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:20 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you're right, if again, everybody knows his identity. But, I mean, that's happened in the comic books, as we know. It has, but it got reversed by a demon or whatever. But, yeah, so there are ways to... I mean, again, this could be a reveal that takes the entire next movie to reverse. Yeah. Or it could be reversed in two minutes.
Starting point is 00:58:39 It's the opening villain of the next Mysterio's Minigame. I mean, you know, at the end of Spider-Man Homecoming, Spider-Man's identity is revealed to Aunt May. Yeah. And by the start of the next one, she's like, well, let's just kind of roll with it. They're a team. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:58:52 I mean, the next one could be, and this is maybe one I would like to see, the next one could be a team up with Doctor Strange. Yeah, right. And at the end, he's just like, or maybe at the start, he's just like, no, nobody knows your identity anymore because I'm magic. You remember the magic?
Starting point is 00:59:04 I trapped Jonah Jameson in a mirror dimension yes and the actor jk simmons just in case yeah have you seen that there's a he's in a tv series where he lives in a mirror dimension did you know that jk simmons yeah no it's a tv series and he's currently he get i'm looking up this it's a it's a series where he he's it's like a counter-earth. Yeah. It's a parallel dimension. And there's another version of him. It's like a secret identity show. Secret identity show. Well, that's like an action.
Starting point is 00:59:32 I don't know what it is. Yeah. Are you disappointed that he didn't have his hair? Because I'm a little disappointed. I'm a little bit disappointed, yeah. What I suspect happened, and I think I spoke to you about this, is that they wheeled him in in a suitcase and they filmed that with two people. And they're just like, whatever you look like now,
Starting point is 00:59:46 we're just going to do it like this because we're not going to put you in makeup and all that kind of thing because this will leak. Because 100% – exactly, 100%. People cheered when they saw it right by the theatre. I didn't get cheers, but people gasped, definitely. Yeah, I reckon they probably had a moustache and the – Brockheim? Brockmere? No.
Starting point is 01:00:06 Counterpart. It's counterpart. Yeah. I think they were just like, whatever you've got going on now, that's fine. We just want to put you in this. What else?
Starting point is 01:00:17 I mean, it's easily fixable. 100% Rotten Tomatoes. Check this out. Based on the second post-credit sequence. Yes out. Based on the second post-credit sequence. Yes. I mean, the second post-credit sequence provides an easy fix to the first one, if need be. Which is? Well, you know, that we have the reveal.
Starting point is 01:00:35 And that actually asks a lot more questions. Because the second reveal, of course, is that the Nick Fury and Maria Hill we see in this movie are the husband and wife Skrull team from Captain Marvel. But when did that switch happen? When did the switch happen? Did it happen immediately after Captain Marvel or did it happen last week? We don't know. Was that the Nick Fury at the Tony Stark's funeral? Was it the real Nick Fury?
Starting point is 01:00:56 Exactly. How much was... It might have even been the real Nick Fury that was snapped. That could have been Talos. But then again, he had the beeper. So it was probably him. Unless that was... Unless Nick Fury handed him the beeper before he left.
Starting point is 01:01:05 I did a video on the post-credits, and my question is, is there a Maria Hill? Does she even exist? Because we know there's two Nick Furies. Three, if you count holograms. But we only know of one Maria Hill. Yeah, exactly. That's true.
Starting point is 01:01:20 I'm not saying she doesn't exist. I'm just saying it's very possible. Because in the comic book, she does exist. But what are the rules for this? You know? Exactly. So, and again, we've never seen pre-Avengers Maria Hill, right? No.
Starting point is 01:01:34 Yeah. I want to say. I'll quickly look that up. But I don't believe so. Yeah. So that's interesting. And we don't see her on. Because my assumption is in that sequence, we see Talos
Starting point is 01:01:45 call Nick Fury and then he's on the beach. Yeah. And I'm like, well, it'll be Nick Fury and Maria Hill. They're both on the beach, obviously. But then we cut to, he's in a hologram on a spaceship. Yes. And there's no Maria Hill, which doesn't say Maria Hill isn't also on the ship. She might be doing something else.
Starting point is 01:01:59 Yeah, that's right. Exactly. I don't, yeah, I don't think, there was never a point where I'm like, Nick Fury's actually on vacation. That guy does not go on vacation. Really? Do you reckon he's setting up SWORD? Maybe the space version of S.H.I.E.L.D., maybe, yeah, maybe. What else?
Starting point is 01:02:15 Like, is he in space or is he in orbit? Like, he's going somewhere, I assume, right? He's in space, I reckon. Yeah. Because if he was just in orbit, I don't think he'd need to be on vacation. No, he wouldn't be. He's been on a long trip. Yeah. Because if he was just in orbit, I don't think he'd need to be on vacation. No. He's been on a long trip.
Starting point is 01:02:26 Yeah. So whether that's since the end of Endgame or the end of Captain Marvel. Yes. Maybe he's been in space for more than 20 years. We don't know. We don't. We really don't. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:39 I'm assuming it probably happened after he came back from the snap. Yeah. It must have been. That's how they bloody get us, isn't it? How intriguing is this? It's like two minutes. How intriguing is this that we're bloody losing our minds? But, like, it also answers questions in the movie for me
Starting point is 01:02:57 because I'm like, why wouldn't Nick Fury cotton on to any of this? Like, the real Nick Fury when he's like, I don't know anything anymore. I'm like, yeah, I guess he would have. but then there's moments where i'm like you would know this you should know this yeah like you should be on top of this and there's a bit where he realizes the drones in front of him or whatever and she shoots it with the rocket launcher and things like that i would like to go through this i'd like to have a rewatch of this and just see how obvious the clues are now that i know who they are really, would I be like, of course. Because you see them have conversations when there's nobody else around.
Starting point is 01:03:30 Are they husband and wife conversations or are they Nick and Maria Hill conversations? There's one point they talk about a Cree insurgence. Oh, yes. A Cree sleeper cell or something. Oh, yeah, right. So that could be just related to their jobs and lives. Exactly, yeah. And at one point they're like, what about our Skrull daughter?
Starting point is 01:03:46 What should we do about her, Maria Hill? Who cares? She can be a Nick Fury too. We'll have a bunch of Nick Furies. But again, those two are an easy fix for the first thing because they could just have Peter Parker. They could just become Peter Parker at Skrull and then Spider-Man shows up and we go,
Starting point is 01:04:00 well, obviously they're two different people and you fix it in two minutes. So I guess it depends on what the plot of the next spider-man slash avengers movie is that they want that to be a big plot device or they just want us to be really intrigued as to what's going to happen in the next one and it may be from there then that's his explanation for being for spider-man's photographer because it's like yeah we met when people thought i was him and yeah we got to know each other and whatever. Yeah, for sure. Okay, that works.
Starting point is 01:04:26 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, so that's why, that's what I'm talking about like back heavy in terms of the most interesting stuff in this movie. Yeah, right. Interesting. That's what I was looking for. Yeah, it happens. I just couldn't think of the word interesting.
Starting point is 01:04:38 Yeah. Yeah, and especially at the end, it's like, wait, what? Because it's not just this movie. It affects everything. I'm sort of fascinated by the Maria Hill thing. Exactly. Because we don't know. We've never seen any.
Starting point is 01:04:50 We don't know anything about her private life. Nope. Or has she been in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.? Maybe. Yeah, she's turned up in that. Oh, right. She was like, I'm a Skrull. I've never been real.
Starting point is 01:04:59 But nobody watched it. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. We don't know. I mean, we don't know anything about Nick Fury's private life but at least we've seen him in Captain Marvel and shorts skinnier legs than I was expecting yeah I thought uh it could be he could be looking for Galactus yeah this could be this could be a setup for uh the Ultimates could be a setup there's it looks like any number of things
Starting point is 01:05:24 I got the bloody eas egg video, Mason, but it looks like there might be a Fantastic Four hidden in it. Also, the Stark Tower now has a garden in the middle of it and it's clearly been refurbished and resold. Because in the trailers, they change this. It looks like it's being rebuilt, but in this it's built. Do you think it was purchased by Jim's Mowing? Could be.
Starting point is 01:05:42 Is that why there's a garden in there? Isn't that guy like a multi-billionaire? Do you think it was purchased by Jim's Mowing? Could be. Is that why there's a garden in there? Isn't that guy like a multi-billionaire? Do you think it was purchased by Chris and Mari's Plant World? Maybe. HelloHello.com.au Do you think it's purchased by that guy who paints roofs? That picture that you put of us on Instagram? Maybe that guy bought it.
Starting point is 01:05:58 He painted the roof. That's a real site in case people want to check that out on your Instagram. That's very funny. in case people want to check that out on your Instagram. That's very funny. But, yeah, I also wonder if Nick Fury had used Talos over the 20 years multiple times. Yeah, right. In all of these movies, when is it not him?
Starting point is 01:06:15 Yeah, and that's also a question that the various, you know, creators and directors and, you know, creative direction makers are going to have to keep answering now from now until the next movie. They're going to be like, okay, we've got a list of movies with Nick Fury and Maria Hill in them. In which ones are they, Skrulls, in which ones? And they're going to have to be like, yes, no, yes. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:06:38 Can you repeat the question? You're not the head of S.H.I.E.L.D. now. You're not the head of S.H.I.E.L.D. now you're not the head of S.H.I.E.L.D. now yeah and I think they are going to have to maybe answer those questions or even retcon a whole bunch of stuff and go
Starting point is 01:06:54 okay well which ones could we make him a Skrull in I put this in the video but there's a you know he doesn't like he wants to cut his toast diagonally oh yes that's right
Starting point is 01:07:02 in Age of Ultron he cuts it he can't eat it he cuts a sandwich diagonally then eats it but it's also it's not toast so it's like that to me is like that's the level of nitpicking that the directors exactly the uh the the russo brothers are gonna have to answer for for the next six months to 10 years when i'm making that video i'm like what am i doing what am i what am i doing i think it's all bloody good fun yeah no it is you know what i think i think even like a few months ago if you'd been like well what about what you know
Starting point is 01:07:29 because it's it's not toasted and he has cut it diagonally i'd be like stop talk i don't care anymore there's been too many easter eggs i don't care but i think i feel refreshed now yeah after after a little break and spider-man i'm like i could talk about this forever now because i think the difference between this and a lot of franchises that fall down is they go big and then they go, how can we top it? Forever, yeah. And in some ways, this is open. I mean, it's not topped, but it's opened up a whole bunch of stuff
Starting point is 01:07:55 for other movies as well in the franchise. Because I not only do I want to see the next Spider-Man movie, I want to see the next Captain Marvel movie. I want to see the next Avengers movie. I want to know, you know, all these different things. I want to kind of know what's happening in this universe now. Yeah. So in many ways, you thought Spider-Man Far From Home was okay,
Starting point is 01:08:14 but you thought the post-credits sequences were amazing. No, I didn't think it was. I think it was good. But I think it's, yeah. The Mysterio turn is when it got much better for me. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. I enjoyed his insanity. Yeah. The Mysterio turn is when it got much better for me. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. I enjoyed his insanity.
Starting point is 01:08:27 Yeah. And his turtleneck. Yeah. He had a little turtleneck at the bath presentation. And he's like, ooh, his turtleneck, you know? He's got that smoldering look. He certainly did, yeah. How am I going to afford all these turtlenecks?
Starting point is 01:08:40 Tony Stark fires me. That's it. So, yeah. Anyway, I'll probably have a video on something related to this this week. Oh, yeah, cool. The future of the series and whatever. Mary Jane works out. Oh, not Mary Jane.
Starting point is 01:08:51 Her name's Michelle Jones. Works out that he's Spider-Man. Do you think at any point they are going to retcon her to be Mary Jane? Or do you think they're going to arrange some sort of situation? No, I don't think they are. I don't think they need to. I mean, you know, she could do, you know, because traditionally Mary Jane's a model or whatever.
Starting point is 01:09:09 I guess they could be like, pick a performing name, Mary Jane. Yeah, that's right, exactly. Let's do the next thing. Oh, I've got some reviews here from Wheat Evans says, I appreciate that even in death, Tony Stark is still able to create his own villains and villains for others, it would say. Yeah, stop doing that, Tony.
Starting point is 01:09:26 Surely you've run out by now. Oh, Zombie Iron Man was good. Oh, yeah! Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. I wonder how much of that is illusion and how much of that is... Tony Stark's corpse? Tony Stark's corpse, also. But is there an element of Spider-Man's or Peter Parker's mind that fills
Starting point is 01:09:42 in the blanks? I don't think so. Because there is a scene where you see Oh, you see the spiders? No, you see the spiders, but you also see him in his tracksuit outfit, with the hoodie and the whatever. I think you just would have known. Like TV footage? I guess because there's stuff on YouTube.
Starting point is 01:09:56 Yeah. Yeah, maybe. And also because those guys have access to all of Tony Stark's intel. That is true, yeah. So, yeah. Anyway, also could imagine the shock and confusion watching the second post-credits scene
Starting point is 01:10:08 if you haven't seen Captain Marvel. Yeah, that would have been very bizarre. What ultimately was Mysterio's plan here? He wanted to be the greatest superhero in the world? Yeah. Did we talk about this? Did you say? Not really.
Starting point is 01:10:17 It's an odd, like to what end? It's the syndrome, I'll be great, but for what? Is it? Well, that's the thing, mate. be great, but for what? Is it? Well, that's the thing. Does he want control? I might have to rewatch it again because I was never 100% clear. Like, did he? Because there was a lot of pontificating.
Starting point is 01:10:35 There was a lot of speeches about what they were going to do once he had become the greatest hero in the world. He wanted to have a spectacular end of the world situation that he could solve and then he'd be the greatest hero yeah then to make money or to just london oh yeah that's true or was it a case of no because he did mention i think nobody listens to you anymore unless you have okay okay and you can shoot lasers out of your hands or whatever yeah but then what was his well then what was his but we'll listen to him i guess so he could do bookstore tours i I guess that's true. He goes down to the front. But also, I guess that does fall apart to a certain extent. What happens if he has to team up with literally any of the other heroes? I guess he just wouldn't.
Starting point is 01:11:12 What happens then? I guess he just wouldn't, yeah. I guess he'd just go back to his home dimension. Yeah, exactly. Oh, yeah, so the multiverse is real, but he doesn't know anything about it. What did I bloody say? I said that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:24 I said that. I don't think, I'm not, yeah. What do you want, an apology? Yeah. On something I agree with you on? Yeah. And always have agreed with you on? Yes.
Starting point is 01:11:32 Then I'm sorry, Mason. Thank you. Derek the Scientist said, just got out of Spider-Man, first half dragged. Probably could have spread it up, spread up a tad, but overall best movie ever. Hopefully they keep this version bright and breezy for the most part.
Starting point is 01:11:46 David McDonald says, Spider-Man Far From Home was super great. Love the character building and action scenes. Best movie ever. Also happy that Marvel has the absolute balls for spoiler casting. You know what I'm talking about. And Nick Flanders Farmer says, Spider-Man's a lot of fun. Managed to reinvigorate the post-Endgame MCU. Endgame left me pretty exhausted,
Starting point is 01:12:06 but Spider-Man brought me back here. My only gripe is the weird editing and dodgy CGI. Hall H is coming up in a few weeks. Oh, yeah. Comic Con. Marvel are doing a big panel, so I think we're going to get a lot of reveals. Maybe a Fantastic Four movie?
Starting point is 01:12:21 Oh, yeah. I was going to say there's a Fantastic Four tease where they say something is coming and it says 1, two, three, four, one, two, three, dot, dot, dot. When is this? It's at the very end. It's like a construction sign.
Starting point is 01:12:31 So I think they're doing Fantastic Four. Maybe. That's pretty cool. What did you think? Side note, what did you think of the Happy Hogan May romance situation? Yeah, it was fun too.
Starting point is 01:12:39 They're a fun team. They're probably friends in real life. Yeah, probably. Absolutely. Yeah, pretty good. Anything else? Not really. What do you think of the black?
Starting point is 01:12:52 What do you think of the red and black Spider-Man suit? I like it. Would you rather he go back to red and blue? No, I mean, I'm okay for like a different look every movie. But I quite like this one. You're not a fan? What about purple and white? Purple and white always feels right.
Starting point is 01:13:05 What about green and gold, Australia's own colours? Green and gold can be considered very bold. Very good. Or mould. Okay. You got another one for me? No, you've answered all my questions in rhyme form, and I respect it. So that's it.
Starting point is 01:13:18 What are we reading? What are we going to read? I'm doing the thing. What are we reading today ah The Walking Dead's finished they just went
Starting point is 01:13:32 it's over shut up it ended at issue 193 193 yeah don't go to 200 why would you I think he's also did it
Starting point is 01:13:39 because of the way that they put the compendiums oh I see that's a full compendium apparently it works out okay I'm not sure how exactly and have you have you read them all i've read them all how do you feel as an ending how did i thought it was a bit uh like leading up to this i'm like i'm not really
Starting point is 01:13:54 that interested in this anymore okay and then okay i'm going to do a slight spoiler for the ending okay if you haven't read it but it does a time jump so it jumps forward about 10 maybe 15 years okay uh so car Carl has grown up. Carl is the main character's son? Yes. It's like the ending of Red Dead where you jump forward in the future or whatever. But apparently it was going to end at like 100.
Starting point is 01:14:14 It's like the ending of Dracula Untold. It's forward to the modern day. I can't wait for those further adventures of Dracula Untold. Me too. Yeah, but this is a spoiler for the ending that he didn't, he wasn't going to do. But there's a moment where,
Starting point is 01:14:27 like a hundred issues prior, where Rick does a speech and he's like, and we're going to rebuild society and this is where we make our stand and we're going to bring it all back. And the next panel is a close, it's like him doing that pose,
Starting point is 01:14:36 but it's a statue of him and then it pulls back. Yep. Because they're like, that sounds like a Simpsons episode. Yeah, that's right. And it pulls back and the statue's a bit overgrown and it pulls back again and there's a. And it pulls back. And the statue's a bit overgrown.
Starting point is 01:14:45 And it pulls back again. And there's a zombie. And it pulls back again. The whole town is overrun. So basically, they got it back. But then they lost it again. And that was the original ending. It was really dark.
Starting point is 01:14:56 But I wouldn't spoil the actual ending for the new one. But maybe it was also really dark. Who's to say? But all in all, it's an excellent run. And now that it's finished you would I can get all the compendiums exactly it's got the perfect amount
Starting point is 01:15:08 of compendiums so yeah I definitely recommend it I've been reading that comic for years and it's well Robert Kirkman's good he's a great writer
Starting point is 01:15:16 Invincible's great that ended really well as well so yeah if only the show would a quick side note we're recording we're recording
Starting point is 01:15:23 okay good we lost about a minute of camera yeah it's fine we're fine probably barely Yeah, if only the show would. Hey, quick side note. We're recording, right? We're recording, yeah. Okay, good. We lost about a minute of camera. Yeah, it's fine. We're fine. Probably barely. Spider-Man 3 this week, baby! Yeah, that's right. Then we can never talk about Spider-Man again, right?
Starting point is 01:15:34 No, we've got to talk about the amazing Spider-Mans. Because I've got to, again, we did a commentary on the first one, it turns out. Don't remember anything about it. We'll have to watch that one again. So I am slowly working my way through Preacher and Jessica Jones, which I've mentioned in previous weeks. The comics? Wow, he's doing some reading. No, the movies.
Starting point is 01:15:51 I'll never read anything. The movies? Oh! TV shows is what I'm reading. You're reading a lot and you're doing a lot of things. I'm doing so many things. So I'm getting through those. I just want to get Jessica Jones out of the way, I think. Isn't it good? It's all the characters that I know and love that are okay.
Starting point is 01:16:06 Isn't it good though this season? I've heard it's really good. So far it's fine. Wow. Yeah. I feel like the characters never learn.
Starting point is 01:16:13 Jessica Jones especially and I know that her stocking trade is never learning. I work alone. I broke my door. It gets a little bit frustrating. It gets a little bit frustrating.
Starting point is 01:16:22 I've broken my door. Malcolm, I work alone. Yeah. Here's your paycheck Malcolm, I work alone. Yeah. Here's your paycheck. But I work alone. I'm a drunk and I work alone. Work alone.
Starting point is 01:16:31 Yeah, exactly. So not great? No, I'm not saying it's not great. But again, there's so many episodes. Does Patsy Walker get a... I know she has the... There's a montage. Montage.
Starting point is 01:16:40 But does she actually have pals? Not thus far. I mean, she's... Because I'm never going to watch it. I mean, she's sort of, you know, she's strongish and agile-ish, you know. Like a cat. Yeah, like a cat, exactly, yeah. And there's the montage, obviously, where she puts on the comic book
Starting point is 01:16:55 accurate costume and goes, absolutely not. You know, it's one of those. It's as good as they do it in Netflix, isn't it? Oh, my God, just commit to it. Just for once, Netflix. Just give her the suit and be like yeah i like this actually just makes me look like a superhero like from the universe we're in where there's superheroes you know yeah i know i'm enjoying preacher as well yeah that's good i got three
Starting point is 01:17:15 seasons or whatever to go through that uh also the only new thing is that i watched the uh the new shaft 2019 oh i saw you watch that which is it... It's on Netflix somehow. In Australia, it went directly to Netflix. In America, apparently, it got a cinema release. It's actually pretty good. I've heard nothing but bad things. Really? Isn't it all jokes all the time? And people are like, this isn't Shaft.
Starting point is 01:17:33 Not even the 2000 one, where he beat up Christian Bale. It's better than the 2000 Shaft. It's way better than that. You should watch the 2000 Shaft again. I've seen it. It's got a really good cast. Yeah, but it's bad. You're bad at making good comments about 2000 Shaft.
Starting point is 01:17:46 Yep, that's true. You're not wrong. What do you think of that? It's good, yep. I think it's fun, this movie. Is Samuel L. Jackson the son of original Shaft? Now he is. He wasn't before, but they've retconned it.
Starting point is 01:17:57 Do they address that at all? They do. What do they say? You told me I was your uncle. Correct. Wow. Yep, pretty much. There we go.
Starting point is 01:18:02 So I think they were just like, we want just a standard familial line. He's six years older than him in real life. There we go. What do you think of that? Shaft starts early. He certainly does. The original Shaft starts early. Yeah, they basically go,
Starting point is 01:18:15 okay, well, yeah, they retconned it from the 2000 Shaft where it was his nephew and just go, yeah, you stop lying and saying I was your uncle. Is there a lot of like you can't say anything you can't say that anymore
Starting point is 01:18:27 old shaft old shaft you can't say that anymore everyone's on twitter you get cancelled oldest shaft doesn't get much of a like he doesn't get much
Starting point is 01:18:35 of a look in he's in it a little bit slightly oldest shaft slightly oldest shaft yeah there's a little bit I mean the main back and forth is between
Starting point is 01:18:42 Samuel L. Jackson shaft and new shaft who are like and new New Shaft's like, what are you doing with your Twitters and your whatever? There's a bit of old man yelling at Cloud in it. But I think I found it was quite fun. Again, it's free on Netflix. Yes.
Starting point is 01:18:58 It's not. Do you think if you had gone into the city to see it or whatever, do you think you would have been? I think I still would have had fun with it. Okay. That's pretty good. Isn't there a bit where they all get matching outfits? That's right at the end.
Starting point is 01:19:09 Great. But they don't go and get matching outfits. What do you mean they don't? Where do they get them then? They must have had. That's what I'm talking about. I guess they must have gone to a store. Let's go and get matching outfits.
Starting point is 01:19:20 See, that's the thing. I think that's probably the worst thing about this movie. It looks terrible. And that's what they put in the trailer. Don't do's probably the worst thing about this movie. It looks terrible. And that's what they put in the trailer. Don't do that. Is that the original Shaft outfit from one of the movies? No. What's interesting about the movie is I spent most of it going,
Starting point is 01:19:36 something's not quite right about this. And then I realized it's because Samuel L. Jackson has two eyes in it. I spent so many years looking at it with an eye patch. I'm like, what is wrong with this guy? Oh, yeah, two eyes Incredible I think they deliberately, because like the traditional Shaft outfit It's all black leather and black and turtlenecks and whatever
Starting point is 01:19:52 Which is very much the Nick Fury outfit I think they deliberately went, let's get him out of that sort of stuff Yeah, okay, fair enough There's a great scene where he beats up like a street thug kid in the first one Oh yes When he's like 2000 Shaft You should watch it, I think you should watch it Have you seen it? Yes Watch it Mason scene where he beats up like a street thug kid in the first one oh yes when he's like 2000 sharp you should watch it i think you should watch it have you seen it yes watch it mason what are you
Starting point is 01:20:10 doing with what is this it's all right who's this new character guy who likes 2000 too much and recommends it to all his friends i'm not saying it's the greatest time you saw it a couple years ago i have seen it i'm not you haven't seen it i have seen it christian bale's in it i know playing his same character from american psycho jeffrey whatever his name's in it the guy from tambor no the guy from westworld jeffrey wright oh yeah all right it's good cast yeah i know i'm aware american psycho maybe you should watch shaft 2019 i will i've got i saw it and i went good because i did want to see it, because I like Shaft 2000. We should coordinate this more, because usually most weeks
Starting point is 01:20:49 it's one of us going, you should watch this, and then the next week it's the other person going. But this week it's us telling each other to watch different Shaft movies, but the modern interpretations. Exactly, yeah. Yeah, somewhat. Anyway, watch a new Shaft. I will.
Starting point is 01:21:02 You should watch Stranger Things Season 3. We'll probably talk about it next week. Okay, cool. Yeah, let's do it. I'm probably a couple in. It's good. I heard that it was kind of slow and then it's really good, and I think I'm at the point where it's getting really interesting.
Starting point is 01:21:13 But why slow? What's going on there? Because they're like, we're all friends and we're becoming teenagers. Wasn't that the last one? Isn't that all of them? We're growing up. So you're not burnt out on Stranger Things. We're kissing each other.
Starting point is 01:21:24 I liked Season 2, but this one I think I like more as of so far. Okay. But again, next week. Right. So is this a series that's kind of resting on its laurels? Doesn't seem to be. Okay, that's good. That's good to know.
Starting point is 01:21:36 So you've seen the whole thing? No. I've seen like three. Okay, that's good. That's a good amount. I wasn't listening. I know. You were thinking about Shaft 2000.
Starting point is 01:21:43 I was thinking about Shaft 2000. You were thinking whether you were wrong, and you are. Maybe I am wrong. Maybe you should watch Shaft 2000. I wasn't listening. I know. You were thinking about Shaft 2000. I was thinking about Shaft 2000. You were thinking whether you were wrong, and you are. Maybe I am wrong. Maybe we should watch Shaft 2000. I think you should. Joel Singleton directed it. I don't believe. First Fast and Furious.
Starting point is 01:21:51 I don't believe anything you say now. Boys in the Hood. Yeah, I remember. Other movies, definitely. Yeah. Should we do letters? Let's do letters. I will.
Starting point is 01:21:59 I can't believe you like Shaft 2000 so much. I can't believe you would think that I wouldn't. The classic one was, Letters, oh letters, we love you. Some letters, they're only a day away. I know they're here right now, we're going to do letters. I want to ask you one more time. Do you actually like that Sharp movie?
Starting point is 01:22:17 Yes, I do. I'm going to ask you off air and figure out if you're doing a bit. I'm still not going to believe you. People should write in whether they like Shaft 2000. I'm not saying it's amazing. That's not what I'm saying. It's a product of its time, etc. and so forth. But I think it's better than you think it is.
Starting point is 01:22:34 Or it's as good as you think it is because everyone's opinion is different. If you want to reach the show, if you want to tell us about Shaft 2000, please do. Hashtag Weekly Planet Pod. Do you think Shaft 2000 is good, yes or no? Get at us on Twitter. I'm at Wikipedia Brown.
Starting point is 01:22:48 James is Mr. Sunday Movies. Please let us know. Also, you can shoot us an email for the week over at weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com. We pick out a few and we go for a bloody ride. We go for a spin, don't we, Mason? We go for a spin. Do you want to go first or would you like me to go first?
Starting point is 01:23:01 This is an email from Demian Holst. Oh. It says, The great portrayal of the Netherlands in Spider-Man Far From Home. Wow. As a Dutch boy, I'm very happy with the way my country is portrayed in a movie. Dutch boy, that old girl in the sky.
Starting point is 01:23:14 The town he's in. Geostorm reference. Thank you. The town he's in, which I'm not going to attempt to pronounce because nobody can do it in the movie either, actually exists. 5,000 people live there
Starting point is 01:23:23 and you're probably the only people who know it exists. The soccer hooligans are actual Dutch actors. The bald one is actually very well known. I like that. Which means they speak actual Dutch. There we go. Yeah, they didn't feel like fake people
Starting point is 01:23:40 doing an accent. That felt real, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There we go. Oh, good. It's nice when you see some representation of a local area where people make the effort. Do you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:23:49 Yeah, that's true. But I think we're all, Australians especially, are very blinded by that. Oh, yeah. If we watch an incredibly terrible anything and people just are in Australia, we're like, yeah. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:24:01 We feel seen. No, I don't care. I don't care. I like it more when they fuck it up. I enjoy it much more. Yeah. Do you remember when the cast of Young Sheldon came down for the Logies last week? Yeah, I remember that.
Starting point is 01:24:12 Yeah, that was good. Best moment of my life. Why did they do it? Why did they peddle out? I don't know. American celebrities. For anybody who doesn't know, Australia has a version of the Emmys called the Logies. The TV Week Logie Awards. The TV Week Logie Awards.
Starting point is 01:24:25 The TV Week Logie Awards have been going for 50 years or something. And they got ruined at the end this year. Oh, right. Very funny. And it's kind of, it's very, they're very cringy. Hey, man, look, I'm all for, like, you know, people should be acknowledged for the work that they do. You know what I mean? And good on them.
Starting point is 01:24:40 But the Academy doesn't vote. People flip out coupons from magazines. Yes. Or now it's voting. Now it's things online or whatever. Well, we'll never know. We doesn't vote. People flip out coupons from magazines. Yes. Or now it's voting. Now it's things online or whatever. We'll never know. We don't know. Anyway, if there's ever a podcast award, we're going to ask you to vote for us.
Starting point is 01:24:53 Everyone's got to rally. Everybody's got to clip those coupons. We'd really appreciate it. So Jeremy M says, hashtag weekly planet pod. Do you ever think we'll see the return of practical costumes in superhero movies? Similarly to unused green goblin animatronic mask for the Sam Raimi movie? We get a bit. The Superman costume, for the most part, is not, and Batman and whatever,
Starting point is 01:25:12 and then they might CGI a cape. I think we're leaning towards more a blend. I think it's absolutely a blend. I think more, like, if we're talking Green Goblin, like more like an Iron Man situation. We'll see, like, these days with Iron Man, it's mostly top half, right? You get the shoulders. It's a man who's not Robert Downey Jr.
Starting point is 01:25:30 Yes, it is. Top half of an Iron Man. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's mostly what we get. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. Even if you think of something basic like the Iron Man helmet comes down and the faceplate drops and the eyes light up,
Starting point is 01:25:44 are they going to ever do that practically ever again? I wonder. I don't think they will. Maybe we'll get to a point where they're like, well, this is more interesting. Yeah. But it's always going to look foamy and rubbery when that happens. Yes. I mean, if they do it, they'd probably just CGI over the top anyway.
Starting point is 01:25:57 Because in the first Iron Man movie, that suit is practical for a lot of it. And then they, for the lighting reference, and then they redid it all. Yeah. But now they're just like, we got it no worries we can just do it we have a we have a plug in yeah exactly yeah i wonder uh i think it depends on the like if you're doing a cat woman you don't need a cgi suit for that yeah you know what i mean it depends on if you're doing a sand man you just got a man in in slacks and a tucked in t exactly and then you dump a pile of sand on it dump a pile of sand in his pants yes exactly yeah why don't they call him sand pants mance that's a really good question absolutely people write it yeah why don't they call it
Starting point is 01:26:35 sand pants man sand pants man yeah mance mance yeah uh so yeah probably blend right i think a blend and there's some things you can't really do practical can you i'm trying to think of an example you know sandman pants yes yeah obviously some versions of the green land i guess yeah is that all i think that is all yes you can't do practical but it's not really a costume is it no that's, that's true. Yeah. Very good. I mean, I guess there is also a limit to just giving actors like a green screen onesie and saying, act. Do it. You know, you need to give them some kind of reference.
Starting point is 01:27:14 But now they don't even really need to because, you know, the white suits in Endgame, they're not real. Right. They didn't make them. Uh-huh. That entire movie, they're CGI. Huh. What are they wearing?
Starting point is 01:27:23 The mysterious? I think just regular costumes and they went over the top because they hadn't designed them because they filmed it so early. That's movie, they're CGI. Huh, what are they wearing? The mysterious? I think just regular costumes, and they went over the top. Because they hadn't designed them, because they filmed it so early. That's true, I guess. Yeah. But then again, like... But at least then they have, they're in... Clothing.
Starting point is 01:27:34 Well, exactly. They're in a, at least, like, at least Chris Evans is in the Captain America suit. Yeah, he knows what he's doing. And he can, you know, he can put himself in the mindset. But again, if you just give him the ping pong ball suit. Yeah. Everybody gets the ping pong ball suit. Yeah, it's Avatar. What's, what's, exactly, what's, you're going to lose your mind in the mindset. But again, if you just give him the ping pong ball suit, everybody gets the ping pong ball suit. Yeah, it's Avatar.
Starting point is 01:27:47 Exactly. You're going to lose your mind in that room. You would absolutely. Right? But then, I was just reminded then, Captain America's suit's practical, Black Widow's practical, Doctor Strange's practical,
Starting point is 01:27:56 except for the cape and parts, you know? Yeah. So, you know, it's not like it's gone completely. That's true. Jamie Smith says, Hashtag weekly planet pod. This is more for you because I don't think I have. Have you guys ever read a superhero story in novel form?
Starting point is 01:28:08 There's a web novel called Worm, which is amazing, though it is long as shit. I've read a few. And again, the obvious downfall is superheroes almost an entirely visual medium. Sure. And they're just being described. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:24 I've read one called Soon I Will Be Invincible, I think, which is sort of a dual narrative between a superhero and a supervillain. Oh, yeah. And it's like alternating chapters. That one's pretty good. There's one called The Superlative Man, which is basically... I've heard of that. What is that?
Starting point is 01:28:36 I think I've even mentioned it on the podcast before. But it's more of like it's a mystery novel about a regular guy who lives in a world where there are some superheroes. And it's kind of more like living up to, you know, it's all themes. Like, I think this kind of stuff works better in a universe where it's not about the superhero. It's more about, you know, what's a human being's life? Oh, instead of being like, and he flew so far that he punched him right in the eye. Yeah, it's more about like...
Starting point is 01:29:11 And the building fell over. Yeah, it's more about like seeing the aftermath of that sort of stuff and being like, what's even my life here if people can punch over a building or whatever? Why be I do anything? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I don't know. His eyes, sand, man's pants? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I don't know. It is I, Sandman's pants. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:29:27 Look, I'm happy to give one a go every once in a while if I hear about one. I think it's an interesting shot at this sort of stuff. But again. I listened to a Batman audio book, which was quite good. I can't remember the name of it, but I did. There you go. And of course, there's Wolverine, The Lost Trail. Of course, maybe something this week.
Starting point is 01:29:44 But that's not an audio book. That is a podcast drama. That's true, yeah. Trail. Of course, maybe something this week. But that's not an audiobook. That is a podcast drama. That's true, yeah. There's an ad for that later this week. That's where we're going with that. They want an exclusive ad separate from the podcast. So they'll bloody get it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:54 And then some. Yeah. But yeah, I think it's an interesting idea. And there's got to be some. I would like to hear about some more examples if people have them. And also different, obviously because different mediums have different strengths. So there's things you can do in a novel which you can't do on, say, a tapestry, a rich tapestry. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:30:11 You can weave a rich tapestry, like visually, but you can metaphorically do one in a story. That is so true. Thank you. And deep, like a deep tapestry, you know? Deep rich colours? Yes. Or like a tapestry deep deep like it's really thick both of those things wow yeah this metaphor this metaphor is deep like a tapestry
Starting point is 01:30:30 yeah that's underwater yeah that's yeah that's right so many layers of deep did you ever what did you read powers we've talked about powers i think the i was put off powers by your description of the tv series yeah but i think that you know that that did not work as a tv series but i think that would work because powers is about sort of regular people you know working murder cases in a world where there are superheroes i think that would work way better like it were i think the comic book was great but i think it would also work as a novel because again it's it's it's more about real people surrounded by insanity at times. Fair enough. Is that the show, Mason?
Starting point is 01:31:09 I think that's the whole show. Thank you, everybody, so much for listening. Yeah. Thank you for subscribing and leaving us a nice review on the iTunes. Can you leave reviews on Spotify, I wonder? I have no idea. But leave is my review of the week. Let's see.
Starting point is 01:31:23 Here we go. This is from V of the week. Let's see. Here we go. This is from That Shamak. Gosh dang podcast there is. Been listening for years and the quality has remained consistent. That's weird because we've been recording this for years. Did I read this last week? I don't know. I feel like that's a joke.
Starting point is 01:31:40 Has this happened before? Anyway. You haven't had a lot of sleep this week. That's true. Shows my buddy Aidan who's an idiot and he liked it so i don't know maybe that means it's bad either way i enjoy it and you might too so there you go i do enjoy it thank you thank you for the most part i enjoy it i guess you know what do you mean for the most part i mean i always enjoy it and you enjoy the sponsorship money also that yes i mean i take it. I don't want to. Oh, you don't want to.
Starting point is 01:32:05 You do it for the art. Yeah. Of sponsors. Great, yes. Gotcha. Yeah. Art and commerce, you know, where it combines, you know, that intersection.
Starting point is 01:32:15 That's why I'm all about that, you know. Isn't that where the greatest art lies? No. No, it is. Oh, then yeah. Yeah, pretty good. Yes. Thank you, everybody who bloody tells a friend,
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Starting point is 01:33:43 He's trying to bite through a cable. It looks dangerous. It's not. Wow. It might be. Yeah. You're going to regret that at some point. No, no.
Starting point is 01:33:53 Because I'm going to punch you in the face for disrespecting the plugs at the end. Now, what's going to happen one day is we're going to record something and it's not going to work out. And then you're going to look at the cable and be like, oh, no, I bit through the cable. Oh, no. And you're going to, we're going to record something and it's not going to work out. And then you're going to look at the cable and be like, oh no, I bit through the cable. Oh no. And you're going to kick something. You're going to kick and break something else. That's what's going to happen. Where was I?
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Starting point is 01:34:44 Next week, Stranger Things and maybe other things. Yeah, other things. Is there another movie out next week? Stranger Things and Prol are musical themes. It's the whole show, I think. It is the whole show. Next week, Stranger Things and maybe other things. Yeah, other things. Is there another movie out next week? Stranger Things and other things. Other things. I think there's something coming out on the 17th.
Starting point is 01:34:51 Let me check my... Is it The Lion King? Special... No, that's not for a week. That's not for a week. No, we could do Toy Story 4 again. Yeah, we can do Toy Story 4 again. We can do Aladdin again.
Starting point is 01:35:02 It's still hot in cinemas. That is very true. It's doing very well, that movie. Have we done anything on Spider-Man Far From Home? I don't believe so. We can always circle back around to it, obviously. I guess we can come back to it another time. Movies released.
Starting point is 01:35:15 July 11th. Is that right? Is that how you Google things? Yeah. Is that right? It doesn't work otherwise. Google, are you there? Anyway, we'll figure it out.
Starting point is 01:35:24 It's me, James. Look, if there's a big movie, just see it, and then we'll talk about it. Talking to people. To people. Yeah, right? Google, are you there? Anyway, we'll figure it out. It's me, James. Look, if there's a big movie, just see it, and then we'll talk about it. Talking to people. Yeah, right. All right, guys, thanks for listening. Grabbed our gem, you guys. We'll see you next week. Goodbye.
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