The Weekly Planet - 293 Stranger Things Season 3 & The New 007

Episode Date: July 15, 2019

For $80 off your first month of HelloFresh, go to HelloFresh.com/weeklyplanet80 and enter weeklyplanet80Stranger Things season 3 is out and wouldn’t you know it we’re talking about it big time it���s the 80s. Also a trailer for Mulan, casting for Bond 25, news on both Sherlock Holmes 3 and the Power Rangers and the future of Spider-Man, Shang Chi and new properties in the MCU. Thanks for listening.Donate Here Please: https://www.theintrepidfoundation.org/planetbroadcastingfundraiser0:00 The Start3:45 Mandalorian Season 28:24 Mulan trailer12:14 Bond 25 new 00719:01 Sherlock 321:17 Spider-Man Sony Future27:00 Shang Chi casting27:31 Future MCU34:46 Power Rangers reboot39:56 Strangers Things Season 3 (50:04 - 1:04:06)1:04:06 What We Reading/What We Gonna Read1:09:00 Letters It’s Time For LettersThe Weekly Planet YouTube Channel: https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies The Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetBuy Stranger Things Amazon ► https://amzn.to/2ni8ZSY Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. This episode is brought to you by HelloFresh. Well, HelloFresh. Welcome back everybody to another episode of The Weekly Planet, where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday. With BizOys is my co-host, Nick Mason.

We're here. We're doing a podcast. We certainly are, Mason. And we're going to be somewhere else next week for our live show. Tickets are sold out, but there is a waiting list. And if we get, I think, over a certain amount of people on the waiting list, then we'll bump up the numbers. I think it might be possible at the last minute.

Intriguing. Yeah. So maybe I could finally get in. You might be able to make it, Mason. Might be able to squeeze in. At the very last minute. That's very good. We'll be joined, of course, by Charlie Clawson and Will Anderson from the TOEFOP podcast and many other podcasts and also televisual mediums.

Televisual mediums. And radios. Yep. Streaming platforms. Exactly. Yes. Will's got his bloody stand-up on Stan, doesn't he? That's true.

He's on the one-night stand. One-night stand. Yeah, that's it. The other thing is, it is a charity event. We have our thing, the donate thing that we're doing for bloody... The donate thing. The donate thing where you donate money. It's to grow seaweed farms and reduce CO2 emissions in the environment.

And every dollar that we match will be matched by the organization that's doing it. The Intrepid Foundation. That's right. I can tell you right now. We're aiming for $50,000. Donations currently. Listeners have donated $7,937. So that's double that.

I saw somebody donate. Siri, double that. I saw somebody donate $1,200. Siri, double the amount. That's amazing. I know. Congratulations. I saw somebody donated $1,200. Siri, double the amount. That's amazing. I know. Congratulations. I should have

written down the name. But yeah, you can also ask a question for our Q&A, which we'll be doing, et cetera, and so forth. That's very cool. Because everybody who

donates will get something special, Mason, because they will put a good studio tour, probably have prizes. I don't know. We're going to take everyone on the studio

tour. Everyone's coming to your house. That's right. Only if you donate $1,200 or more. All right. So that's going to be-

That's not a binding promise. No, absolutely it's not. Oh, side note. This week I was on my friends Sarah and Michael. They used to have a podcast about DuckTales called It's a Duck Blur. Now they have a podcast where every week is Christmas. It's called Sarah and Michael Save Christmas. And I was on this week's episode where we talked about

a very vaguely Christmas-related episode of the 1970s Wonder Woman. Oh, was it good and fun? Yes, it was good and fun. Good and fun. The podcast was good and fun. Yeah, there's a good dude. The show, is that good and fun? It's interesting.

Certainly of its time. Look, as long as it's good and fun. Yeah. Do you like somebody wearing a velvet suit with a turtleneck? Yeah. Then you're going to have a good time. On the podcast or the show? Both of those things. Yeah. Do you like somebody wearing a velvet suit with a turtleneck? Yeah. Then you're going to have a good time. On the podcast or the show? Both of those things.

Okay. We wore turtlenecks and velvet suits. Very good. Anyway, you can find that all over the place, but primarily on iTunes. Very good. Sarah and Michael, save Christmas. Sarah and Michael, save Christmas. Yes.

It'll be fun. Thomas donated 100, what's KR? Krona? Is that good or bad? I don't know. Is it Swedish? If this converts to like 4 cents, I'm going to be very upset. But if not, well done, Thomas.

Are you going to convert it right now? No. Okay, all right. There we go. Philip donated $20. Thank you, Philip. So there we go. They're two good ones.

Yeah. How many krona did you say? 200. No, 100. 100 kroner. Also, if you are coming to the live show next week, because it's going to be like a condensed version of this, if you want to send in a letter,

send it to weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com. You'll be in the audience, hopefully. And if we get to letters, because it's going to be like a 45, 50-minute show, we're going to do some bloody letters, aren't we, Mason? Very nice. All right. I'm ready for the show?

I'm ready for the show. Okay. I thought I'd save the best for first, Mason. Oh, yes. Star Wars news. Oh, come on. Come on. Yes.

That's right. That's there. All right. Apparently, the Mandalorian- You were like, let's do some trailers up top. And I'm like, okay. Sounds good to me. The Mandalorian season two is already in the works,

Jon Favreau says, who worked on Mandalorian season one. Also, apparently, it was 10 episodes that first season and they're $15 million or kronor per episode. Okay, 100 Swedish kronor equals $15.20 in Australia. That's still good. Still good, right? Yeah. I mean, it's no 100 kronor, obviously.

No, absolutely not. It sounds like more, but it's still good. Bloody Swedes. But it's also good you can donate in different currencies as well. I agree. Yeah. That's the magic of the internet. It is, Mason.

Yeah. So what do you think about that? Mandalorian, it's coming back already. It's going to debut in November, and then we're going to get it again, and there's going to be 10 episodes, and they're very expensive. Very expensive, yeah. I like that part the most, actually. They're very expensive, right?

They're very expensive, right. Apparently they're doing real model making and all sorts of stuff on that, all the ships. And all the people at Lucasfilm are like, we're sick of computers. We want to work on models. They've actually gone even further back. What they're doing is they're building the models for real. And they're getting like a man with a big beard and like big aviator glasses and like a bald patch and like a beige.

You know, like when you see one of those old Muppet style model guys and he just holds it. They're getting an authentic guy from the 70s, and he just goes, and then they're going to cut him out with CGI. Oh, wow. And that's where the money goes, obviously. Absolutely, yeah. Excellent. I mean, spaceships shouldn't make noise in space, but it's Star Wars.

I mean, that's authentic 1970s Star Wars, isn't it? Yeah, that's it. Are you excited for The Mandalorian? Yeah. It's going to be good. Good, authentic 1970s Star Wars, isn't it? Yeah, that's it. Are you excited for The Mandalorian? Yeah. Yeah. It's going to be good. Good, because you love Star Wars and you don't want it to ever stop. And it won't, regardless of whether you love it or not.

Doesn't matter what I do. What could stop it? Would you have to destroy an entire company? Ah, Disney. Yeah. Yeah, I think so. With some kind of missile strike? No, I think the only thing that could destroy Star Wars is... Because it's all in the cloud, isn't it? Yeah. Star, I think so. With some kind of missile strike? No, I think the only thing that could destroy

Star Wars is... Because it's all in the cloud, isn't it? Yeah. Star Wars in the cloud. Oh, you mean destroy every reference to Star Wars everywhere? No, no, I'm just talking like how would you stop them making it? Oh, I think what would happen is they... But that's the thing. I think they've already headed it off at the pass. I think it's if they were like,

we're going to do two years worth of spin-off movies. We're going to do the solo movie. We're going to do Obi-Wan Kenobi. we're going to do two years worth of spinoff movies. We're going to do the solo movie. We're going to do Obi-Wan Kenobi. We're going to do all these ones. And then they all flopped. Yeah, okay. And it put like a billion dollar dent in there. And I think they'd be like, this is financially not viable.

And then they'd probably... So you think even some kind of missile strike would not do it? Oh, absolutely not, yeah. But a metaphorical bomb at the box office. Yeah, look, I reckon they have bomb-proof servers that hold

all the master copies or whatever, yeah. Yeah, that's true because the first negatives for the Star Wars, they deteriorated and then they had to restore them

for that release. Because I think they just put them in a damp basement. That's what they used to do with everything. Yeah, that's why all those Doctor Who episodes

went missing or whatever. Oh, that's right. And a lot of them were taped over as well, weren't they. Yeah. That's why all those Doctor Who episodes went missing or whatever. Oh, that's right. And a lot of them were taped over as well. Yeah. Because they were like, well, nobody's ever going to want to watch this again. Yeah, nobody likes this now or ever. Yeah. And then the people clamoring at the BBC like, find the new ones.

Find the old ones. Find them. Find copies of it. And then it's like, we finally found a copy in a basement in Denmark. And then people watch it and go, wasn't very good. Wasn't very good. We didn't like it. Didn't like it.

It was bad. Find a better one. Find a better one, please. Yeah. Speaking of Jon Favreau, though, his movie The Lion King is, of course, out in theatres this week. Oh, yes.

By all accounts, it's exactly like The Lion King, so that's good. But less dynamic? But less dynamic because it's photorealistic animals and you can't really tell. And you can't also have them like, you can't have a lion swinging through the trees or anything like that. There better be a bloody lion swinging on a vine mason.

There will not. We've got, yes, there will. Can anyone out there confirm? Has anyone seen it before us? Good question. So we've got two Carry Around the Garbage this week, actually, because I figure if I hold one until next week, people will forget because it's Comic-Con next week.

Oh, yeah, right. So, speaking of which, Comic-Con is also the Marvel panel that's happening the day of our live show. So, as I'm sitting there with you doing a live show, all this hot news is being released and we'll be none the wiser. Now, it'll be pinging on people's phones. Oh, that's true. People will be quietly and patiently raising their hands.

David Harbour's the thing of the film. It's a full movie. Yeah. Everybody woo. Yeah. So, that's exciting as well, Comic-Con next week. So,bour's the thing of the Fantastic Four movie. Yeah. Everybody woo. Yeah. So that's exciting as well. Comic-Con next week. So there's going to be two.

One is the Lion King video game, and the other one is Mason finally watched the Lion King. Oh, yeah. And one of those he likes more than the other, I would probably say. Oh, interesting. Is it a video game? We'll find out.

Yeah. So one's Tuesday, one's Thursday. Speaking of Disney though Oh yeah Trailers ahoy Mason We should put in I was thinking about When I set up that board

And you compressed the theme songs I don't think we can use The Captain Pugwash Trailers theme That somebody made Because it'll get struck Oh yes Somebody owns that

Some prick Yeah Yeah His unruly son His unruly son Chad Pugwash Chad Pugwash yeah You see him driving around In his Lamborghini like like, with the top-down sunglasses on.

He's always like, I made this from Pugwash money, bitches. It's in here. Pugwash is not good, is it? The cartoon? No. Yes. Surely not. Anyway.

Melancholy. But what about Pugwall Summer? I think that I often confuse the two. That was a good one. His band was the Electric Oranges. Okay. You know I love a local reference, Mason, so I'm going to side with Pugwash's Summer.

Okay. All right? Anyway, Mulan trailer. Yes. So it's an all-Chinese cast in an English-spoken film from Disney, which is a remake of the Mulan animated movie, but it's also mostly based on the legend because they took out the Eddie Murphy dragon. Oh, Mushu.

People are freaking out, man. Yeah. I mean, well, do we know for sure that they've taken out the dragon? I believe so. And they've also taken out the songs. Oh, so this one isn't a musical? No. Okay.

But I'd imagine they're going to use, because the songs, there's a couple of songs that are quite iconic from that. There's Reflections at the start when Milan's like, when will my reflection reflect who I am? My sadness is in a reflection and this pond that I'm skipping a stone in. I feel they could just take that and then put that directly into the movie. They can use that. I mean, that worked perfectly well without music.

That's right. Why not put some acapella jams in there, you know? I agree. And you know what? If you can get me the rights to captain pug watch the theme song you can have that disney all right yeah but that would totally be oh but how about this because i feel like i feel that fits the theme if if as as is rumored as some people have said that the lion king is just kind of a slightly more dreary version of the original Lion King.

What if this one was just people attempting to break into song? They never quite get there. They never quite get there and they're just like... I wasn't really feeling it. Sorry. Sorry. I can't quite get in key. There's also I'll Make a Man Out of You,

which is like a trading montage. Oh, yes, I'll make a man out of you, which is like a training montage. Oh yes. I have seen that. Which is awesome. I really like, so, but I think I'd imagine they're going to put that in over a training montage. Like just maybe just an instrumental version.

I don't care about the dragon. I think the dragon never fit in that movie. It's a teeny little dragon. Yeah. And it's Eddie Murphy. And he's all like, what's up? I'm a dragon.

China time. Or whatever. You can put that in if you want. You can have that. I never thought that. I thought that's one of the weakest elements of that movie. Okay. But going back to that, have Disney definitively said no dragon?

Yes, I believe so. But maybe that's the real deal. No, I think it's because I think it's a more realistic take. And it's hard when you remake these things because you remake the Lion King photo realistic and people are like, why are you doing this? It's pointless. At least do something different. But then you change stuff and people are like, why are you doing this? It's pointless. Let's do something different. But then you change stuff and people are like,

but I like the dragon and I like the song. Do you think she might look at a lizard at some point? And then be like, and then she's like, imagine if this was a dragon. No, I can't quite imagine it. Yeah. Imagine the sage advice it could offer. Can't think of anything else

i think it's run over by something a cart a cart yes so but i am looking forward to milan because milan's a bloody crack and film uh-huh and we'll probably do it for caravan of garbage and i think you i think you'll like it we'll see yeah there's some things i don't like i'd like the lion king i will get yeah all right there's there's i things I don't like. You thought I'd like The Lion King. I will get, yeah. All right. I thought you wouldn't hate The Lion King. Okay, right. I thought there'd be an element of that story that you enjoyed.

All right. Anyway, that'll be later this week. Oh, Mason. Bond's back, isn't he? He is back. It's Bond 25. There's a lot of Bond news this week. Just up top, Christoph Waltz is apparently going to be back as Blofeld, Bond's brother.

They grew up skiing together. They sure did. And they were separated in a tragic skiing accident? And Blofeld always blames him for the skiing accident? I think they were joined by a skiing accident. Bond's parents died, didn't they? Oh, do you think they were joined as Siamese twins and then they were separated in a skiing accident?

That's right, exactly. Or they were just two regular kids. They got on what they thought was a twin chairlift. James Bond was like, we're getting the twin chairlift but james bond was like get it we'll get in the twin chairlift and then it separated slightly and then they got back together at the top of the mountain blowfell's like i'll never forgive you for this bond it was never the same was it no it's not the same yeah so i think they got to tweak that character for the blowfell one yeah what do you mean scar the other side of his face just blind him in both eyes yes exactly no just just tweak him so he's more like the original Blofeld I don't know what this weird

familial saga going on forget it it's already locked in I don't think they're gonna be like but they weren't brothers they didn't live together I mean they're not technically brothers yeah because Bond's parents died and he lived with them and then maybe he was jealous because his father loved Bond more or something I think that's basically the. There's a poorly photoshopped picture in it or something. As someone who's seen all these movies a lot, the last couple really didn't make that much of an impact. I didn't. I've only seen it the one time.

2015's Spectre. Exactly. And the other bit of news is that Lashana Lynch, who of course is Maria Rambeau or Monica Rambeau? She's Maria Rambeau. So shebeau? She's Maria Rambeau. So she's Captain Marvel's best friend in Captain Marvel. Didn't know she was British, but she was... Side note, didn't know that Millie Bobby Brown was also British.

Really? That I knew. Threw me for a loop. She's good at the British accents, her regular accent, but also doing different accents. Correct, yes. So the rumour is, but also bear in mind, this is from The Sun. Oh, right.

Notorious Rag. Come on, yeah. I mean, this could very well be true. So the news is she is the new 007. Yeah. So for anybody panicking, she's not playing James Bond. No. There's some set footage where we see Bond.

He's in his I'm sad because the love of my life died outfit, which is like a grey T-shirt with holes in it and some shorts, and he's looking sad on a boat. Yeah. So I think probably in the last one he was probably going to get married to Madeline Swan, who was the woman who might have been the woman he married in on Her Majesty's Secret Service who was then killed. Yes. So maybe in this movie either they Her Majesty's Secret Service who was then killed. Yes.

So maybe in this movie either they've broken up or she's already been killed. Yeah, right. We don't know. Well, I think she's in it, Lea Seydoux. Okay, yeah, yeah. So maybe that footage is after she's been killed and he's like, I'm done with this life.

I'm going to go back and be 007. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Yes. I mean, I don't think you need. First of all, this might not be true. So people don't get upset too much. Secondly, James Bond may not be a codename. That is an ongoing fan theory, which was debunked by Skyfall.

Yes. But the 007 is a codename. There are nine special secret agents. There's more than nine. There's more than nine. Okay. There was initially nine and now there's fucking a thousand. All right.

I don't know. All right. They're just giving them to anybody. No, they go up in a way that upsets me. They go like 009 and then they go 0010. No, this is in the books. Do they really? They go up to like 0015.

Is there a 000? I don't think so. No? No. But it's upset because like, how do they fit that on the name, on like the ID badges? Yeah. How do they put that in the database? Yeah.

I'm sure they were like, okay, it's like a Y2K situation. Yeah. Where they're like, okay, we've assigned another agent. 010? No, we can't. They've got to be 00 agents. We've got to refurbish this whole system. Q, we need.

Can you help us? Please, Q. That's why the other one retired. Stop making invisible cards. Yes. For the love of God. Just fix the spreadsheet, us? Let's place Q That's why the other one retired Stop making invisible cards Yes For the love of God Just fix the Fix the spreadsheet mate

Let's fix Anyway So she's It looks like At least at the start of the movie She's going to be the new 007 Yes And then

He's going to come back Yeah Which also means If they're doing sequels To this If they keep it in universe She could play The new Bond in

The next That's true yeah or whatever or the new 007 yeah i don't i don't be horribly killed oh yeah exactly this could be just a mechanism yeah to like insert a new character and then be like well now she's dead and you have to come back yeah so and it's like and she she got she got killed with your wife or whatever i don't know what do you want Someone literally picked up your wife and beat her to death. Yeah. With your wife. Yeah.

So great or who cares or is this true or what? It's not upsetting to me if true in any form. Okay, right. No, I think it's fun. Yeah. I mean, there had to have been a 007 before it. Exactly. Yeah.

Yeah. So there you go. We need to see more 00 agents. I agree. Like we saw 006 in Goldeneye. We saw 009 in Octopussy. And very occasionally they mention another one. Yeah.

They're like, 004 is often an assignment. Show us more. I want another 00 team. I agree. Yeah. Alex Trevelyan. Yes. Good memory.

Thank you. I played a lot of the video games. Oh, that's yes oh yeah golden golden eye golden video game yeah the only other reference that i recognized is in some of the set photos he's driving the aston martin that he drove in as timothy dalton in the living daylights it's the same one i mean it's not exactly the same it is the same one in the sense that it's the same car. It's got the same license plates. But also, that one blew up. Yeah, but they're not in the same continuity, are they, Mason? It's not a code name.

No. His father was in a ski accident. It's so true. He was always a James Bond because he went back to his manor. It's the same as the Vantage is all I'm saying. It's great. It's the same license plate. It's a reference and a callback. Like a torn grey t-shirt. But is it going to have any cool lasers in the wheels?

Probably not. No. Do you want to do the Dalton Bonds for Caravan of Garbage? Because we've got to do something. And I've never seen them. That's true. And I've heard particularly the first one is quite underrated. Yeah, but they're not bad, are they?

No, I know. I just want to kind of... I don't know. Is it worth looking at, though? I think we should look at a Brosnan Bond. I think Brosnan wants a... Why would you... Yes, I have.

But you haven't re-watched him recently, right? We should watch Die Another Day. What are they doing? Yeah, it's a very good one. It's got invisible... I actually recently recommended that on Suggestible, the other podcast that I do. Because I thought it was funny.

To your wife? To trick her? Well, we were talking about a show that it had that has... Who's the Bond woman that's not Halle Berry in that? Rosamund Pike. Yes. And we're talking about something where Rosamund Pike was in it. Oh, yes.

And I said, well, I know Rosamund Pike from another day. Anyway, it doesn't matter. Speaking of British crap, Dexter Fletcher will be directing Sherlock Holmes 3, Game of Shadows 3. Oh, okay. It's the 2021. The Robert Downey Jr. one. Okay, right.

Dexter Fletcher, you will know from fixing somewhat that Freddie Mercury movie. Oh, yes. Which is a bad film, I think. But he also, I actually saw this this week, he also did Rocketman. Yeah. Which is excellent. There you go. So I think he's a good director this this week he also did Rocketman which is excellent there you go so I think he's a good director

and this is a good choice he's also Soap in Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels and he's in Press Gang Press Gang that's right and also I want Sorium and a Market in London and I need to bring that up

every time what was he buying? give us more details that's all I've got and it was vague I was like that's fucking Dexter he was in Doom

I said to Claire but was he empty handed or did he have like a plastic bag? I want to say he had a reusable bag, but I don't know. I feel like the ear you saw him in, he wouldn't have had a reusable bag. I know. That's why I think that's just a memory that I've put in. Do you think maybe he was very progressive in it for his time? He may have been.

He was very forward-thinking. I can imagine him being that kind of person. Yeah. Very cool. Maybe Britain's ahead of the curve with reusable bags. They could very well be. If you know Dexter Fletcher, ask him, say, or if you see him on the streets, if you see him, look, very occasionally people are very nice enough

to go to a celebrity, like a movie star or a TV star and say, hey, can you say grab that jam? And there's a compilation of those. They're very fun and it's always a thrill to see them. Wasn't there a Howard the Duck one this week it might have yes i believe there was yeah but if you see dexter fletcher could you please ask him if he uses reusable bags and when oh when did he start using if it was before if it was 2008 then he would then yeah then i'll know all right yep interesting or if you just know yeah or if you if you think you know, let us know on Twitter. Yes or no.

Do you think you know if Dexter Fletcher uses reusable bags? Not if you know for sure. Not if he does or not. Do you think you know? Do you think you know? Yes or no. That's the action item this week. Excellent.

Yeah. Do you want to see Sherlock Holmes 3 game of... Yes, I do. Okay. I think they're more consistent than the Benedict Cumberbatch Sherlock series. Well, because there's less. I mean, there's fewer of them. I guess that's true, yeah.

I liked the second one I remember, but I didn't remember liking the first one. That movie's like 10 years old. Yeah, right. Because it came out the same year as Avatar, I think. Or before. I don't fucking know. Spider-Man News. Oh, yes.

If Spider-Man Far From Home makes under a billion dollars, apparently it's in the contract that Sony gets him back. Oh, I've heard this. But there's some wrinkles in this contract. Yes. Apparently, it's in the contract that Sony gets him back. Oh, I've heard this. But there's some wrinkles in this contract. Yes. One, it's a billion kroner. Yes. Which is $17.

And that's done. So they've done really well. Because we bought tickets, didn't we? That's true. Actually, no. I went to a screening. But you bought a ticket. That's true, I did.

There you go. But the idea is if Sony gets it, first of all, they'd be insane to give it back. Second of all, kroner is exponential. I was just going to say that's why. That's why 100 kroner is $15. Oh, I understand that. And a billion kroner is $17. That makes sense to me.

Yeah. You're doing a curve, everybody. Okay. First of all, you're saying. Yeah, I can't. What was I saying? Yeah. If this makes $100 billion, which it probably won't, Sony would be crazy to take this back.

Because what are they going to do? Make one of their own movies? Exactly. Don't do it. Don't own movies? Don't do it. Don't do it. Don't do it. But the other thing is, apparently in the contract, if Sony do get it back, nobody uses these characters,

these versions. So this version of Peter Parker and the Vulture and, I don't know. Mysterio. Whatever. Yeah, right. Just no one can use them. Nobody gets them.

So that means Sony. Jim Artie's getting a call again. That's right. He, right. Just no one can use them. Nobody gets them. So that means Sony... Jim Artie's getting a call again. That's right. He's back. So that means Sony have to bring in a new Spider-Man and whatever. Yeah, right. So Venom, I guess, technically, unless they fold it into the MCU, is still theirs. And they could keep doing that.

But even if this... I mean, it's already made like $850 million. People like this version of Spider-Man and they like him in the MCU versions and I think it does nothing but good things for Sony. I think they would be smart enough to know that it would be ridiculous. Oh, absolutely. So I've heard conflicting things. I heard that it's the

combination of Far From Home and Homecoming that has to make a billion dollars. I've heard is it domestically plus? It's not just domestically, right? It's worldwide. Yeah, it's worldwide. Okay, right. They're edging close, aren't they? just domestically, right? It's worldwide. Yeah, it's worldwide. Okay, right. Okay, well, they're edging close, aren't they? We're recording, right? Just FYI.

I don't know, man. Does it matter anymore? It doesn't matter. No, I don't think so. Do people even like this show? I don't think so. No. Bring it back to the old days when nobody listened, you know? Yeah.

It was less stress, definitely. Because look how stressed we are now. We're very stressed. My stress is on a bell. Oh, sorry. My stress is on a bell curve, Mason. It goes all the way up to the middle. And is that the middle of the podcast?

Once we get over the hump in the middle of the podcast. Then I'm fine. And then it gets to a point of popularity where I'm like, I can say anything, I can do anything. How about stoppable? Say something now. Say something controversial now. I don't think we're there yet. Okay, right.

Yeah, that's true. Yeah, no, you're right they what are they going to do they go who are they going to get for the new spider-man they're bad at everything they're bad at casting everything they're bad at plots they're bad at making movies they did a good jumanji's didn't they i guess but like yeah a lot of their properties like your men in blacks or whatever they kind of do mediocre let me just look up sony picture, like the big ones. Yeah, right. And see what we got going on. Okay, Goosebumps did well, but then the second one not as well.

So it's basically weird, supernaturally fantasy movies with Jack Black in them. Yes. That's what they do well. That's what they do well. Okay, right. They do once upon a time. Spider-Man, Spider-Man's Jack Black. Well, there was that MTV parody, do you remember?

Yeah, I remember. With him and Sarah Michelle Gellar. That was a great era of putting actors in movies, wasn't it? Sure was. So, yeah. So, The Dog's Way Home, Escape Room, Holmes and Watson. But then you got into the Spider-Verse, obviously. They could still go from that.

The Girl and the Spider's Web. Alpha, which I think was about A boy who lives with a wolf Or some shit Oh yep Sicario movies are good Okay Peter Rabbit

It's okay If you like James Corden But then you look at like Blade Runner 2049 Great movie Didn't do well Flatliners The Dark Tower

Emoji movie It's a real mixed bag It really is Inferno Which is another dan brown oh yeah tom hanks is stopping the illuminati from stealing a picture of jesus with a nuclear weapon in it whatever the fuck that's what happened yeah and it had that that paul bettany paragliding scene paul bettany paragliding priest i think you're thinking of ewan mcgregor whatever paragliding

oh okay betty said well that's much that's that's much more dignified, isn't it? Well, Paul Bettany's the albino priest that whips himself or whatever. Anyway. Sorry, Ewan McGregor and Paul Bettany. In other news of things, MCU stuff, apparently Marvel- I bet you Paul Bettany was listening to this. And he was like, I never parachute. And Ewan McGregor was listening to this and he was like I never parachute and Ewan McGregor

was listening to this and he's like I'm off the hook I'm off the hook for the paragliding priest scene and then he corrected and he's like god damn it

I remember the start of that movie they were like a young priest with a helicopter license I don't think so and I'm like that priest is 100%

going to fly a helicopter in this fucking movie Yeah Uh huh Yeah Anyway I'll not hear of it Marvel

A rabbi That can throw knives At a big spinning wooden board That'll never That'll never come up At our Local carnival Later on

We won't need him To save the Bloody rec centre Will we No Oh my god He's done it He's thrown knives All around that young woman Later on, we won't need him to save the bloody rec centre, will we? No. Oh, my God, he's done it. He's thrown knives all around that young woman.

What kind of rec centre carnival is this? I don't know. Try and hit the woman. Hit the woman on the spinning board. No, you don't hit her. Don't hit the woman. Try not to. Here we go. It's not a carnival game.

Is it? Is it? No. It's a show. Oh, it's a show. It's a show. I almost, like, popped the balloons and No. It's a show. Oh, it's a show. It's a show. I almost like popped the balloons and whatever.

No. You don't kill the woman with the knives. Okay. Have you not seen that? They're all in Elvis movies. I've seen it. I just thought the carnival you were talking about was step right up and try to hit a woman with a knife. No.

No? No. Okay. No. All right. Shang-Chi, Marvel apparently looking for someone in their 20s and must be of Chinese descent to play the role. So we're out. Yeah, I know.

It's unfortunate. Because we're not 20 anymore. Well, we're that or another age. We're a slightly different age to that. So we could squeeze in. Yeah, so there's rumors that they want to get it done before this weekend so they can announce it at Comic-Con or whatever. Oh, they want to finish casting by this weekend?

Yeah, so I'm sure they've got, if they are going to announce it, I'm sure they've got a bunch of people in mind that they could go with. So, yeah, good. That's a good idea for casting. As women, our life stages come with unique risk factors, like when our estrogen levels drop during menopause, causing the risk of heart disease to go up. Know your risks.

Visit heartandstroke.ca. Phil. Yeah. And in other news, there's some inactive Facebook pages, which people think might be related to some reveals of soon, of late. Oh, so they acquire the page or they sign up for the page, they sit on it. Okay. How are we seeing these pages?

Some people can do coding and what not. Oh, you're nice. Some nerds. Oh, yeah, it's nerds. The work of nerds. Okay, cool. Thanks, nerds. I salute you, nerds.

You've done it again. We love you, nerds. I mean, depending on what these results are. Yeah. Dark Avengers, we salute you, nerds. We salute you, nerds. You're doing it again. Young Avengers.

Salute you, nerds. Salute you, nerds. Good characters there. Ironheart. Good. Salute your Nets. Salute your Nets are good. Tip of that to you. Good characters there. Iron Heart. Good. Salute your Nets.

Very good. Good job. Black Widow. We knew that already. We know. It's fine. You get a salute. Tip of the photography.

There we go. And Eternals. Oh, we knew that one already. But I don't think it's been announced. So we. All right. So this has all just been. Yeah. Essentially baseless rumours

that The Eternals is happening. Exactly. At this point, yeah. Yeah, but it's pretty much happening. Do you think there's ever been a movie? Yeah, probably. There's been a few. You're right on the money.

Second point is, do you think there's ever been a movie that's been greenlit based, like the rumour mill has just swelled so much that they're like should we make this like what if they did what if somebody was like we've what we've heard that angelina jolie is going to be in the eternals we've heard camille nangiana is going to be in the eternals we've heard that this guy's going to be in the eternals and they went that's not bad should we should we make should we make the eternals we got 200 million dollars sitting around i think there is definitely examples of that but i cannot think for the life of me think of of one. If you can think of one, yes or no?

Yeah. Let us know. No, I want to know specifically what the one is. Okay. I know I'm going to think of like 10 when this is over. Because apparently they're thinking of actually doing another Crocodile Dundee based off that ad campaign. Oh, yeah, right. Which it should have been in the first place.

Absolutely. Because everyone knows where Australia is, all right? You can come here or you don't. Australia, the arse end of the world. That's right. That's the slogan it's true too remember when

Jerry Seinfeld said Melbourne was the arse hole of the world because where it was situated like he came here and he'd stand up

in the night yeah it was very uncouth and people were like that's outrageous and shut up who cares who cares it's like when

Australia was on The Simpsons and people here were like that's a stereotype and it's not yeah it's a joke that's's a stereotype and it's not. Yeah.

It's a joke. That's what they deal with. It's not a real representation. I wish we had a prime minister that lived next door to me and just floated around in a pool. Yeah. Because it'd be better than any of the prime ministers we've had lately. Okay. We're talking about stuff.

Dark Avengers. Let's talk about Dark Avengers. Yes. Well, yeah. So Norman Osborn, perhaps? Yeah, maybe. Who else is in that? Doesn't he run them normally? The thing about the Dark Avengers is I think a lot of them would have to be kind of a new team.

Yeah. Like, because it's... Yeah, I think they'd do a Zemo. Like, a Zemo would run a Dark Avengers. Yeah, I guess that's true. So, I mean, I guess it could be a combination of things. So the Dark Avengers in the comic books were when a lot of the heroes were on the run and so norman osborne put together a team of this is the civil war situation yeah so a lot of a lot of the characters were like the evil version of

a real hero or like you know a a character who's who's connected to those heroes in some way yeah but like with their their version on you know the the hero's costume on so like yeah wolverine was taken over by his son uh who was a claw no dakin dakin that's right yeah so dark claws that dark yeah uh and uh uh uh i think bullseye was hawkeye yeah and etc does wolverine's son have more claws than Wolverine? Like on one hand he's got six and the other one he's got seven? If only. No, he's got two claws that come over the top and he's got one that comes around the bottom.

Boo! And they're going to curve. That's way worse. They're like hook claws, I know. That's way worse and I hate it. Yeah, right? Yeah. I think some of them are magical.

Yeah. He got some magical metal Put on them Okay But he's also He doesn't have an adamantium skeleton So he can just chop his head off What a loser I know right

So Maybe they won't do Norman Osborn Because Then it's a Sony joint thing Well I was going to say Hang on I'm just going to look up The roster for the Dark Avengers

What do you want me to do? Just do nothing I can sing that song From Milan again I was going to say Sing another song from Milan Yeah Where's my dragon So uh and the dragon's not here so people would have seen you know the iron patriot yes iron man 3 so that's an that's in in that movie it's just it's just a suit built by aim

yeah government but in the dark avengers that's norman osborn suit because he formerly the green goblin and he couldn't find obviously an iron man or a captain america so he just combined the two yeah it's into like a like a like a suit of battle armor um for america yeah for sure okay so he got uh you got hawkeye uh bullseye's hawkeye, Venom, the Scorpion version of Venom as Spider-Man, Dakin as Wolverine, some others. You know? I feel like a lot of those I probably won't go with. Well, exactly. We don't even have a Wolverine.

We don't have a Wolverine, exactly. Son of Wolverine with magic cursed claws or whatever. Yeah, we got Moonstone as, no, we've got Superior as Captain Marvel. So we could get that. We could get an evil version of her. But again, I feel like a lot of those are kind of... Yeah, it would be weird to be like, here's the X-Men.

By the way, here's an evil version of Wolverine. Yes. That you're already in the Dark Avengers. So I think we need a new... I think it would have to be some sort of combination of... Existing villains? Yeah, or maybe like a combination of the Sinister Six and the Thunderbolts and the Dark Avengers.

Like, I'm sure with the current roster of villains who haven't been killed or who might come back, I guess we could get a few and then kind of rebadge them as heroes. I could see Zemo doing it. I could see it being run by General Ross. Yeah, for sure. You know, because he's like, I'm a hologram, but I don't approve. And also, I guess a lot of the villains in the Marvel Cinematic Universe,

the public doesn't really know they exist. Yeah. You chuck in the Abomination. Yeah, for sure. As the Hulk. There we go. I mean, it's not like, again, the Scorpion and the Lizard and all those guys are running around the MCU

and the public has seen them and they're on newspapers and the TV or whatever. Like, if they exist, people... And, you know, how many people saw The Vulture? Yeah. You just... Like seven? Exactly. Just bloody...

Give them a little tweak. Give them a tweak, yeah. Give them a tweak. Okay. I don't disagree with you. Paint the armour gold. Yeah. Wonderful.

Yeah, exactly. Be like that big gold bird from City armour gold. Yeah. Wonderful. Yeah, exactly. Be like that big gold bird from City of Gold. Yeah. Remember that TV show? Yes. They rebooted it. Great theme song. Not as good, bear in mind, as the Defenders of the Earth theme song.

Defenders of the Earth. Defenders. Out of the sky, his rockets ignite. Jets into battle, flying faster than light Lord of the jungle, the hero who stalks The beasts call him brother, the ghost of war Defenders of the Earth I bloody got you all.

Yes! You thought I stopped doing it? I'll never stop. Wow. One more bit of news. Yes. This kind of ties into what we're talking about today. Power Rangers is being rebooted, says Dacre Montgomery, who played the Red Ranger. Yes.

And he plays Billy in Stranger Things, season two and three. So you know how the Power Rangers movie wasn't very good. Oh, yeah. But the cast was quite good. The Krispy Kreme product placement was very good. Because that's all I remember about that movie. Don't you remember the monster was a big gloopy gold situation? No.

It was made of gold and Rita was like I've made a monster out of gloopy gold. Yeah, and I do remember at the end the Power Ranger the Megazord forms by accident. Do you remember that? No, I don't remember that. They all just fall together and sort of melt a bit

and then they become the Megazord. It makes a lot of sense to me. And then everybody's like, didn't know I could do that. Remember? No. I remember the Zords and all that don't really look like animals. Yeah. Which I guess is the, isn't that the point? I feel it is, yes.

Yeah. I mean, back on the Voltron train lately, you know that, Mason. The Voltron. It's a great show. The Voltron. Anyway, I don't think- I've been back on the Voltron.

Pain relief. Very good. No, not really. But I liked that cast. I can understand why they, why they would want to make another one, but it's kind of, because the,

I can't remember her name, Naomi, someone, she played Jasmine recently. Oh, yes. She's the big ranger. Like, it's kind of because the all the i can't remember her name naomi someone she played jasmine recently oh yes she's a big ranger like it's a good cast sure anyway whatever i don't care so there we go oh uh also uh dark avengers had the century in it which is a character that i'd like to see but uh don't introduce but i mean i guess you could i think you could do a mix of existing ones and new ones. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, maybe he's like the... I mean, he could be the, you know, the... He's powerful enough to take on Captain Marvel.

Yeah. So maybe that's, you know... Do you think he'll be the one to say, what are we, some kind of dark Avengers? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Excellent.

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Oh, no, no, no. Too much time. I'll be the show. It's Stranger Things. Oh, yeah. It's been out for a week or so. That's true. Everyone's seen it, I assume.

We've watched Stranger Things. When is it? Are we going to do non-spoilers and spoilers still, though? Sure, let's do it. Because some people want to watch a Stranger Things, don't they? Yeah, and some people are like, should I bother with Stranger Things Season 3? I've seen one. I've seen two.

Two is a bit rocky. Should I watch three? I would say very much so. I think you should watch three. I think three is good. And you know what? Yes. People might be like, well, why should I watch it?

Because I don't even know what the story was. But you'd be able to. You'd be able to tell them, wouldn't you? You'd be able to tell them. All right, hang on. So. It's the 80s. That's where we start.

All right, here we go. It's the 80s. Things are happening. Yeah. Big malls. I was going to say big malls. Big pianos. Yeah, sure.

Yeah, malls are happening. Build up a mall in Hawkins, the town of Hawkins. That's right. They closed the gate last time. Remember, there was a big gate. I remember. Not the gate to the mall, but a dimensional gate. Yeah.

They closed it. They're like... No monsters getting through this place. Closed gate. Let's build a mall. On top of... Pretty close to where the gate is. Yeah.

No harm done there. Direct vicinity. Don't even worry about it. Yeah. But... Trouble. How so? Yeah. Monsters and that. Yeah, monsters and dimensions. Monsters and that. Direct vicinity. Don't even worry about it. Yeah. But. Trouble. So. Yeah.

Monsters and that. Yeah, monsters and dimensions. Monsters and that. And Russians. Yeah, yeah. Telekinesis. Yep. Bleeding, bleeding from the nose.

But also growing up. Growing up. And the 80s. Oh. It doesn't, it's, I know it's like it's set in the 80s and there's 80s references, but it's really not like, it's the fucking 80s. I feel like season two was leaning quite heavily on that you know it was like look everybody's in a ghostbusters outfit yeah every single person in this show

is wearing the ghostbusters outfits the school uniform is the ghostbusters outfit the police uniform is the ghostbusters outfit yeah uh so ghostbusters outfit though school uniform sexy that's right yeah i i the weakest part of season two for me was that Eleven goes off and meets the X-Men or whatever. Oh, see, I think maybe I said it at the time, but I feel that was a valiant effort. Yes. You know? But I don't care about those people. Right.

You don't care about one through seven and nine and ten? No. Okay. Do you? Name any of them. Eight. Not their numbers. No, absolutely not.

I don't know. Yeah. But that was two years ago. It was two years ago, yeah. And also, they didn't give it any time to flesh them out. We got one episode, you know? That's exactly right. So, but this one, though, I think it's probably a little slow to start with.

Yeah. To kind of get going because you've reintroduced the characters. But I think it's probably, It might be my favourite season. I think so too. I really liked one as well though, obviously. I think this leans less heavily on the imagery of the 80s and the sounds of the 80s, but more on the tropes of things that happened

in 80s movies and 80s TV shows. Like a character that looks like the Terminator? I was going to say a character that looks like a Terminator. We've got a shopping montage. We've got a shopping montage. We've got a bloody running through the mall. We've got a bloody relationship misunderstanding that could have been solved if anybody had a conversation for five seconds. Correct.

Which I feel like in a show now, I'd be like, oh my God, just have a conversation. Can you just talk to one another and this will fix it? But I'm like, it's the 80s. It's a TV show. It feels more like a, it's the 80s. It's a TV show. It feels more like a TV show from the 80s, you know? And The Thing. And The Thing, yeah.

And Body Snatchers and whatever. So, you know what this did remind me of? What's that? There's a period in a person's life, depending on, you know, what kind of life you have. Are you talking about puberty? Yeah, pretty much. Okay. But, you know, there's that period between there's, like,

you're not interested in the opposite sex or the same sex, whatever you're up to. That's fine. Mason doesn't approve. I'm cool with it, all right? Is that cool? Can I speak for you on that? I'd rather you didn't.

But there is that point where you start to notice other people in that way, and then the relationships change. And it's kind of this awkward kind of shifting of the dynamic. And all of a sudden you're not like kids hitting each other with sticks in the woods or whatever. And then there's this other element. And, you know, action figures and whatever kind of get put aside. And it's this painful, awkward. And some kids move into the new stage quickly

and some kids are kind of left behind and are still playing with action figures and whatever. And the kind of relationships split and go in different ways. And it's a terrible time. Yeah, for sure. Absolutely. And I think that this is a good representation of that. Yeah.

So because there is that Eleven's dating Mike. Finn Wolfhard, whatever his name is. I don't believe that they would be in a relationship in real life other than the fact that, like, he found her in the woods and she lived in a lab for 10 years. Like, I just, I do not believe that they would. That's the only reason I could see that she would like him. Right. Because he's thoroughly annoying. Yeah, he's thoroughly annoying.

Exactly. Yeah. And she's got superpowers. That's true. Yeah. Because he's thoroughly annoying? Yeah, he's thoroughly annoying. Exactly. Yeah. And she's got superpowers. That's true. Yeah. Is that just me? But again, kids. Kids, yeah, exactly.

Yeah. But I like that, you know, when she gets a friend and they go out and do shopping and she's like, wait a minute, he's a bit, you know, some of the shit he says

is a bit bloody ordinary, isn't it? Yeah. But then they figure it out, I guess, don't they? Because they talk. And that's important, so. That is important. What's his name?

David Harbour is good, isn't he? I agree, yes. Yeah. Yeah, he's good. I'm looking forward to him being in the inevitable Hellboy sequel, obviously. Hellboy verse. Right.

That's a shame about that, isn't it? And probably the thing. And probably. Yeah, he's good. He very much represents this kind of man. Like, it is also that era where you still have to be a manly man. Yeah. But he's struggling with a lot of emotions. And he's got a new daughter.

Yeah. You know, and he's trying to replace his old daughter in a way. But she's growing up and kind of pulling away from him. Yeah, yeah. And he's trying to replace his old daughter in a way. But she's growing up and kind of pulling away from him. Yeah, yeah. And he's a drunk. He's a drunk. He's acting out and he's kind of, you know, he's clearly in Vietnam and it messed him up.

And now he's kind of put himself again in a position of power and authority and he's not doing well. I think it all works together. And he's, you know, Winona Ryder's character's there. Yeah. And he's like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I saw some things about him that like, you know, he's not a good guy. He's a terrible guy. And I'm like, yeah, he is. He's not, but he's not supposed to be a perfect character. No, exactly. And that's what I like about it. And it's weird that the assumption about a lot of TV shows and movies is if there's a main character, you have to aspire to be that character.

Yeah. That character represents something that you should be or you should put on a pedestal and think is a good character. They can be terrible characters. They can have qualities that you like. There's a lot to like a good character. You don't have, they can be terrible characters. They can have qualities that you like. Yeah. You know, there's,

there's, there's a lot to like about the character. You know, he is, he's, he's willing to do anything for what he believes in to some extent. Yeah, exactly.

He's, he's a man with flaws doing his, his best. His best. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah.

Like Billy, a man with flaws, a demon. Number one, his mustache, his biggest flaw. You know, a man with flaws, a demon. Number one, his mustache. His biggest flaw. You know he's Australian? Yes. Yeah.

So the Billy's, I guess this is a minor spoiler, but it happens pretty early. He becomes like a host of the thing from the other upside down dimension or whatever. And then he's recruiting and doing all sorts of things. Leaflet drops. Leaflet drops and such and so forth. Pyramids games.

It's the 80s. Exactly. That's right. Yeah. Handing stuff out at the mall. Yeah. So, yeah, I like that. I like that character as a villain.

I also like how... Because he's been a villain just as a human being. Yeah. Yeah, as a bully. And now he's sort of become this unwitting monster as well. Exactly. Which is cool. I like the way they split up the teams in it.

So you've got the people going after the Russian signals, which is Destin and Steve, who's great. And Robin, who is a new character, I think, who is... The daughter of Uma Thurman and Ethan Hawke. But if you said that's Winona Ryder's daughter, I would have been like, of course she is. Probably, yeah. With Ethan Hawke, yeah.

Yeah, exactly, yeah. Reality bites, baby. Yeah, exactly, yeah. And Erica, who is... Yeah. What's his name's sister? She's terrific. Yes, exactly, yeah.

She's so funny. What's his name? Yeah. Luther Lionel. Yeah, sure. Luther Lionel. Luther Lionel. I'm going to look it up.

So we've got that. We've got the Russian Signal team. We've got Winona Ryder's My Magnets Are Falling Off My Fridge team. Mrs. Magnets. That's right. And we've got the people working in the newspaper and people are eating manure team. Yes, for sure. Yep.

We've got your three teams that are doing different missions. And I think all of those missions are interesting. So whenever you cut from one... Yes, there we go. Whenever you cut from one to the other, it's not like, oh, not this storyline. That's true, yeah. They're all good.

Yeah, absolutely. It's a good... Yeah, they've all got their parts to play and it all kind of coalesces at the end, which I think is pretty cool. I agree. Yeah. They've all got their parts to play and it all kind of coalesces at the end, which I think is pretty cool. I agree. Yeah.

And there's some unexpected pairings and unexpected moments. I like what I enjoy about this universe, I guess, enough. Jake Busey. Oh, yeah. Just that's so 80s. We need a guy who looks like Gary Busey to be insane. Yeah. Jake Busey?

Is he busy? Well, he's doing The Predator. He's certainly not busy. Busey to be insane. Yeah. Jay Busey? Is he busy? Well, he's doing The Predator. He's certainly not busy. He's definitely busy, though. Yes. But I was going to say, I like that the characters are fleshed out enough that you can just put unusual pairings together and they all work. It's like the Marvel Universe where you can just throw Doctor Strange and The Punisher together.

Exactly. See what happens kind of thing. Guns and magic. Guns and magic. Guns and magic. Guns and magic and spikes. Spikes fly. Absolutely. The monster in this, it's something that's kind of trapped in a dimension.

Or is it? Should we do spoilers? If you're expecting anything. Yeah, let's do spoilers. If you're expecting other than a monster from another dimension, you're going to be let down. But I'm going to say best series ever. I'm going to say best movie ever. Oh.

Because, Mason, it looks like a movie in so many ways. It looks so much like a movie. That goopy monster looks good. Spoilers. Do we have anything

non-spoilery left to say? I think we can just say it in whatevs. I think if you're a fan, you've probably watched it already. I think you could probably skip season two.

Maybe. I mean. Well, I guess there's, what's his name's character? The guy from The Hobbit, Sean Astin's character. Oh, yes. Bob was his name? It was Bob, I think, yes. Yeah, he died.

That I'm on of it, yeah. But, you know, they get you up to speed on that, don't they? That's true. So the monster looks incredible. And the goop, you know when like a rat explodes into goop and then like, God, that goop looks good, doesn't it? It looks great. This is some TV CGI goop, you know when a rat explodes into goop and then like, God, that goop looks good, doesn't it? It looks great. This is some TV CGI goop, but it looks incredible.

I haven't seen goop that good since the bloody, bloody, bloody. Gwyneth Paltrow's goop website. Correct. That's exactly where I was going with that. I was trying to think of some sort of weird stone egg that you put inside yourself. It's about as bloody healthy as a bloody goop website, Mason. God, she sells crapop website, Mason. Got her. She sells crap to idiots, Mason. Yes.

So, yeah, the monster, I was a bit kind of like, yeah, it's a monster again. That I didn't think was... Yeah, I mean, it's essentially, it's the mind flayer again. Yeah. But what I did like is that it sort of manifested differently differently like it had its it as it its remaining vestiges of its spirit or whatever yeah was like what can i do in this dimension yeah and with what i've got what i've got and it's like well build build turn people in a goop and then make a goop monster out of it does

that mean that in the other it's still in the other dimension like part of it seems like most of it is still in the other dimension yeah that's what i got from it my understanding of it was but i but it's been explained differently from the cast was that when the gate because at the end they close the gate and the monster dies i thought it was like wi-fiing through to itself oh like passing information yeah that's unlike b and and control and then when the gate closed it died but the way that it was explained by some of the cast was billy was the main host and when it kills billy it pretty much kills itself and dies and that also coincides with the gate closing how did you interpret any of those things that i said i think well i think that does wrap it up again

kind of in a ghostbusters kind of way like Like if you kill the host, that ends it. But look, I'm fully... Because again, I feel like this does strongly set up a lot of elements for another season. Yeah. Again, which is pretty rare for Netflix, so go Netflix. This is their biggest show, I guess. Yeah, that's true.

Or one of. But look, why not both? I mean, you can be like, okay, well, it does die, but in its death throes, it's sending everything it's learned in this last time period to the original mind flayer. Maybe it's like if you break that thing apart, maybe each of it has a separate consciousness. Sure, okay, yeah.

So I would fully expect if it reemerges in Stranger Things 4, I would fully expect if it re-emerges in Stranger Things 4, and it will, that it's going to know everything that happened in the previous, in this current season. So it's not like a Tom Marvolo Riddle situation where it's trapped in a diary, but the original Voldemort doesn't know the things that the diary Tom Riddle did.

I mean, it's definitely trapped in a diary. Is it? Yeah. A goop diary? Yes. You open it and you go, this diary's too weird. I don't like it.

Yep, exactly. And I won't write my feelings in it. Yeah, that's right? Yeah. A goop diary? Yes. You open it and you go, this diary's too weird. I don't like it. Yep, exactly. And I won't write my feelings in it. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. I thought it was interesting that early on you kind of get a hint that Billy has some control over it. Because you know when he's going to sleep with, what's his name? His mum, whatever.

Oh, yes. Mrs. Wheeler. Yeah, Mrs. Wheeler. And when she's like, I'm sorry I didn't turn up to have sex with you or whatever. And then he imagines like cracking her head. But then he doesn't. Yes. So at that point, I'm like, well, he must have some.

Yeah. Because he kind of chose his hosts. Yeah, right. To some extent. I thought that represented his struggle. Okay, right. Oh, like early on. Yeah, before it took hold completely.

Okay, yeah, you're probably right. Well, we've both interpreted things. Yes. And that's okay. The other reason I think it's a weird Wi-Fi monster from the other dimension is that Eleven's powers don't work at the end. And I wonder whether that's a result of the rip closing. Yeah, right.

And so she can't draw on the energies of that other dimension. Oh, I see. Or do you think that her head is broken? Ah, that is a good question. In the first season of Stranger Things, she has her powers first, and then they use it to open the dimensional gate, right? Yeah, I believe so, yes. Okay, right.

So do you think that, yeah, so you think it's more her head doesn't work? I think it's that one, yes. Yeah, you're probably right. But again, they could write it however they want, couldn't they? They could be like, well, there was residual energy coming through and that's how you got your powers and then you open the gate and then now it's closed, you don't have your powers anymore. Where's the other numbers or whatever?

Exactly. Bring them back. What do they have? Are they useful? What are they good for? I don't remember. Can they flip vans and stuff? Probably.

Hopefully, yeah. Yeah. I thought Hopper's death yes yeah death first of all that no one's dead in this series except for all the people that were turned to goo yes that's true i loved that uh that terminator character yes gregory he looks so much like arnold i was gonna say the haircut the terminator one kind of jacket yeah he one point he shoots him many times and he gets up because he's wearing the Kevlar vest,

which is what they think the Terminator's wearing in the original Terminator. Yeah, right. Yeah, yeah. Like the accent. I know he's not Austrian or whatever, but... Close enough. Close enough.

It'll do, won't it? It absolutely will. Yeah, that's a good kind of match for Hopper because he's a giant man, but he's not very fizzy. And he's sort of... He can deal with, as we see throughout the series, he can sort of deal with a regular person quite easily. He can throw the mayor around, you know, if necessary. What do you think of Carrie Ells?

Fun. Yeah. Fun again, the 80s. British. Yeah. And he's British. Oh. Shouldn't they should do another Princess Bride?

No. Leave it as is. Shouldn't they should do another Princess Diaries? Yes. Okay. Yes. Excellent. Do you think they should do another Princess Diaries? Yes. Okay. Yes. Excellent. Do you think they should do another Diary of a Wimpy Kid?

Yes. Okay. Which one? Roger Caroll's? Yes. Or did they already do that one? Yes. Okay, good.

Ask me another thing. I don't have any other questions. Yes. Okay. I'm the winner in this scenario. So, Hopper's death was, I liked, but you don know, you don't see his body get vaporized or whatever. But the letter that he wrote to Eleven was really good. Yeah, exactly.

Like, that was a really good moment. And she's such a good actor. Yeah? Yeah. You know, the way that, you know, because you've just got to sit there and cry. Do you know what I mean? That's true, yeah.

Like, the way you're thinking about it like that. Yeah, that's true. That's very difficult. But that was a really good, and it was very kind of him and funny. And at the end, it's like, just close the goddamn door. But it was a good send off to this character that's not really dead. No, he's absolutely not. Because the scene at the end where they say they're feeding,

the Russians are feeding prisoners. The demagogue. They're feeding prisoners to the demagogue. And one of them says, not the American, right? So he's the American, surely. Unless there's another American we're forgetting about. Do you think there's another American? No, I think he's the only one.

I mean, everybody else in this is British, apparently. That's true. Yeah, so he's definitely still alive. He's definitely still alive. So I just wonder, though, do you reckon he jumped into the rift to escape the explosion and they got him out of the rift at the other side of the... in Russia or something oh maybe or do you think he just dropped down into the gantry yeah maybe yeah i mean and again we don't know what state he's in yeah he might be all scarred up that's true he might be a uh villain in the next season he's probably fine he's probably you know he's probably

in some turmoil but then he's probably okay i think now there's a number that you can reach which is the the you know the scientist guy from this from the alexi you can reach, which is the scientist guy from the... Alexei? Yeah. No, not him. The American guy. Is he Alexei? No, no.

That's the Russian guy who demands Slurpees. That's Alexei. Yes. No, no. So I'm talking about the other guy. Yes, yes, yes. Who his name is. Yep.

The bald guy with the beard. Yeah. He's very funny. Yes. He's in things, isn't he? He's in things, yes. Yeah. Correct.

So Murray. Murray Bauman. So apparently if you call this number, it says something like,'s in things, yes. Yeah. Correct. So Murray. There we go. Murray Bauman. So he goes, so apparently if you call this number, it says something like, hi, you've reached the residence of Murray. If this is Joyce, thank you for calling. I've been trying to reach you. I have an update. It's about, well, it's probably best if we speak in person.

It's not good or bad, but it's something. So you can call, in America, or presumably if you want to dial out, you can call this number and you get that message. Something like that, yeah. That's so the 80s. It's so Something like that. That's so the 80s. It's so the 80s. That's so the 80s. And it costs you $5 a minute or whatever.

That's so the 80s. That's so the 80s. So he's definitely coming back, isn't he? Yeah, right. Yeah. So they're adding to the roster of kids like every season. But I feel like- When are they going to thin the herd of kids?

When are they going to kill some kids on that show? They're going to have to kill some kids, man. When are they going to kill some kids Transformers the movie style? Yes. Where it's like, we had the old seasons of kids. We're sick of the kids. You bought all the kids. Shoot them in the head.

Shoot all the kids in the head. Now we just want the new kids. That's the 80s. Yes. Yeah. Bang, bang, bang. Bang, bang. I'm with you.

They've got to kill some of them though, right? I guess. Do they? Yeah. Okay then. Kill the Finn Wolfhard kid. Oh yeah, kill him finally. Yeah. Okay, then. Kill the Finn Wolfhard kid. Oh, yeah, kill him, finally. Yep, good, good.

Well, look, if you want Eleven to get her powers back, I think the tropiest way to do that is probably kill the love interest and then she's like, no, her powers are back. And it would hurt, but kill Steve would probably be pretty effective. Yeah, yeah. I also feel like Finnn wolfhard the actor like all his what's interesting i think about the kids is that obviously they have to be nerds on the show but i think they're kind of in real life they're kind of trying to break out of the

yeah right nerdy stereotypes and too bad yeah i was gonna say so i think probably at least a couple of them won't want to be depicted as these characters anymore kind of thing like they're bold cuts it's too late it is too late isn't it yeah uh-huh so you know yeah so some of them will have to we'll have to leave eventually i'll go to college i mean they did split the characters up yeah there's still most of them are pretty young yeah uh the oldest one is we've forgotten the name already the one who's got the sister i think he's like 17 yeah and he's the oldest one but uh you could kill n's boyfriend, whatever his name is. John? Yeah, you could kill him.

Is that his name? Yes. Yeah, you could kill him. You could kill him, for sure. Yeah, that's fine. He's in X-Men Ghost School, so you could kill him to coincide with him doing all the press tours for that. Perfect.

Perfect. Yeah. Who else could you kill? Winona Ryder? No. Nah. She's the moral center of the show. The mayor.

Yeah, kill him. You could bring Jake Busey back and kill him again, but in a different way. Yeah. You've got to kill one of the kids. I think you've got to kill one of the kids. But then you can bring back one of the kids. You can also bring them back whenever. Well, that's true, yeah.

Yeah. The good thing is because they cast them so young, they've still got a few years in them. It's not like they're all 22 now. Yeah, that's true, yeah. Yeah, the good thing is because they cast them so young, they've still got a few years in them. It's not like they're all 22 now. Yeah, that's true, yeah. How do you feel season four is going to go? I don't know. I hope they start borrowing from other 80s movies. I think they might.

You know what? Christmas episode. Oh, yeah. Because I think they said at the end, hey, let's catch up. I think it was like, let's catch up on the holidays or let's catch up. We'll see each other at Christmas time or something like like that so then you can do like gremlins yeah absolutely other things the thing the critters critters what's the other gremlin what's like gremlins knockoff oh uh cripplers not cripplers that's fun though do you know what i'm talking

about there's another one yes no i can't I can't remember. Yeah. Creepers? Something like that. Yeah. Yeah, because I think this one, you know, because the way they kind of lead it to, you know, like it's more action movie in this. Yeah. And kind of Red Dawn and the Terminator. I'm glad the Russians are back as villains.

Yeah, good. On TV and in real life. Finally. Finally. We're lacking a pretty good villain of late, weren't we? I agree. Both on TV and in real life. So there you go.

I'm looking at a letterboxd page, a comprehensive list of Gremlins ripoffs. Here we go. Let me know if it's the one you're thinking of. Okay. Well, there was Critters, obviously. I think it's Critters. There was also Ghoulies. Ah, yeah, Ghoulies, yeah.

Lots are coming out of the toilet there. I know that one. There's Spookies. Don't know that one. No, I don't know that one. Troll. Yep. Ghoulies 2.

Not really. Munchies. That looks more like a... That's got the classic 80s... Isn't that a food? Yeah, well, of course it is. But it's a classic, like, monster... Oh, looking up a skirt.

You know that trope, that movie poster trope from the 80s, which is like a lady's shapely legs, you know, coming down, and then somebody looking up the skirt. Yeah, that's... That's funny. Yeah, it know, coming down and then somebody looking up the skirt. Yeah, that's very... That's funny. Yeah, it is funny. Hobgoblins. Huh.

Spaced Invaders. Spaced Invaders. Yes. And then a series of Ghoulies sequels. And Hobgoblins 2. Hobgoblins 2, don't say we didn't warn you. Are they doing a Gremlins prequel animated something? Maybe.

Yeah, the origins of Gizmo. I think so. Yeah. Anyway, you're thinking of Critters. Or possibly Ghoulies. It doesn't matter what I was thinking of or what I've ever thought. Is that all we need? I think so.

Yeah. Yeah. So you would like to see more 80s? More 80s stuff. Do you want to wildly change genre? I don't think you need to. Does Grigory as the terminator character get a pass because the first terminator was kind of a horror movie or do you think maybe yeah maybe

but then the red dawn isn't a horror movie and and there's also a bit of like what's the one where matthew broderick plays chess with a computer or whatever war games yeah a little bit of that i guess that's true yeah yeah you're right you're right looking for a signal you know what i mean they're looking for a signal and i found it didn't i that's right yeah i like the idea of like the russians went to the mall doing the whatever oh yeah that's so 80s so isn't it weird like i feel like by the second one i'm like god if there's more 80s tropes in this in this season i'm not i'm not going to enjoy this but i really enjoyed this long wasn't it yeah also the the secret this the the girlfriend at camp that nobody believes existed.

Yes, absolutely. Did you enjoy the Never Ending Story song? A little bit, yeah. I enjoyed that a lot. Yeah. Okay. Is that everything? I think that's everything.

Then let's do What We're Reading. Oh, What We're Gonna Read. I'm doing a thing. What are we reading today? What are you reading, Mason? Oh, I watched Booksmart. Oh, yeah. Well, that's good, I hear. It's very...

It's good. I mean, it's kind of... I'm not sure who it's for. It's for me. Oh. Yeah. Why haven't you watched it yet? I'm busy.

Holding out. Yeah. You're trying too hard, Mason. Yeah, for sure. You're trying too hard to get me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it's got... Well, maybe it's for people who have just graduated high school. Because people are like, it's super bad, but chicks. Yeah, right. Because it's got... Well, maybe it's for, like, people who have just graduated high school.

Because people are like, it's Superbad, but chicks. But it's more than that, though, isn't it? I think... Yeah, look, I think it's smarter than Superbad. I've watched Superbad the other week. It's very funny. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's very, like...

It's very... This movie, it's very frenetic. It's very kind of like... It's very loud and frenetic and, like, there's no... frenetic it's very kind of like it's very loud and frenetic and like there's no it's the idea is it's two it's basically two uh nerdy girls who one is actually jonah hill sister in real life oh which one the one who looks more like jonah hill i guess cool nice i don't know that no that's right so basically they're basically they were they were they were two nerds who excelled academically and they think they're on the fast track

because they think they're going to... They did all the extracurriculars. All the extracurriculars. They're going on the fast track to college and career or whatever. And then they discover that all the deadbeats in school are also going to be doing great. And they partied. They're also going to Yale and Harvard and whatever,

but they also had an amazing time. So they want to pack. One of them wants to, and the other one is very reluctantly dragged into trying to pack like a year's worth of partying or just they want to into the last night of school. Like we're going to finally, we're going to say we partied and we studied kind of thing.

And it's fun. It's like, it's a sort of a nonstop fun ride. Did you enjoy it more than Superbad? Well, I don't know because I haven't seen Superbad in a while. So no. Yeah. Superbad, they feel like real teens, right, for the most part? Yeah.

Yeah, these guys feel like, I would say these, if I knew any teens at this point, I'm like, this is probably what modern people. This is probably teens. It feels like how teens would be nowadays. Okay, fair enough. It's good fun. Yeah, I liked it.

Because I know Superbad was written, you know, Evan Goldberg and Seth Rogen wrote it when they were at school. And the two main characters were meant to be them, and then they aged out of it. Yeah, they aged out of it. So they became the cults, yeah. Cool. Well, Evan Goldberg, I think, is just a writer.

I read Star Wars 68, and you might be like, why would you start at Star Wars 68 and not Star Wars 69? I was going to say, why wouldn't you wait for the next issue? What are you thinking? Because it's got a new team on it. Greg Pack and Phil Noto, who did the art on Poe Dameron comic, which is the art I quite like. So they're a new creative team,

and they're kicking off a brand new storyline. And it starts off with – they do some unlikely pairings. Oh, hello. And they do some missions or whatever. So this. I mean, it's still Han and Leia is one of the things. I was going to say. So dial it back for a second.

Yes. Have you read everything up to this issue? I have, yes. It's out in 2015. And you've probably mentioned this before, but when is this set? This is set in between. In between the first two Star Wars movies. Or the four and five.

You know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean. I know what you mean. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I didn't love the run. I think there, or the four and five. You know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean. I know what you mean. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I didn't love the run. I think there's some good stuff in it, but I like this creative team.

And the first issue, I quite enjoyed. So I thought if you like Star Wars, which I know you do. I do. And we all do at theweaklyplanet.org, then please. Is that taken? I think you have to get it now. It is. I don't want it. Okay. Put whatever you wantet.org, then please. Is that taken? I think you have to get it now. I don't want it.

Okay. Put whatever you want there. Oh, no. So, yeah, I think it might be a good jumping off point. And it's also the art is less of, I see you've just traced the face from the movie in that particular scene. I found a lot of the old art was like, I know that image because I know it because I've seen the movie a thousand times.

Yeah. So it's more stylized slightly, which I like. Yeah. Anything else? That's about it, I think. Hang on. Have I read anything? Have you?

No. Never would. Do you reckon this looks like a pipe or a... Yes. Thank you. Claire bought me a new drink bottle. Yes. It's a great drink bottle.

It's got three nozzles for drinking at the end. Oh, for your three mouth holes. My three mouth holes. Three mouth holes. Because you've always demanded you want to drink through your mouth and through both your nostrils. Exactly. You want to clear out the nostrils while you drink. That's right.

You're like, there's got to be a better way. And there is. This. But look, it's got three tiers. Oh, I see. But the big flow on it, it's not enough. I've got three tiers because this segment is so bloody boring. I'm talking about a bloody drink bottle.

What I'm saying is it's better. It's more effective if you just take the lid off and drink it like this. Oh, yeah. Wow. I wouldn't be recommending that. Look at the size of this, though, drink bottle. It's like a liter and a half here. Yeah, I get it.

That's plenty of water for me, Mason. I drink a lot of water. Yeah, for sure. Not to brag. It's not a brag, but all right. That's a bit of a brag. I'm a bit proud. Yeah, good.

Good for you. Anyway, letters? Let's do some letters. The classic one was letters, oh letters. We love you, some letters. They're only a day away. I know they're here right now. We're going to do letters.

Mason, look how crisp and clean my phone screen is. Crisp and clean? Do you remember because I smashed it to shit a couple of weeks ago? Yeah, I remember that. 75 bucks for a new phone screen and it's better than ever. I should just do it every year anyway. Just get a new one. It's incredible.

You should smash your phone screen on your own head because of how boring this segment is. We don't want to hear about your phone screen. When my son was in hospital with the flu and various other ailments related to the flu, I told you this, didn't I? How I smashed my phone. Do people care about this? Maybe. I'm in the story already, aren't I?

But you know how the TVs hang down from the ceilings? I only had the cable. I didn't have the wall cable, but I had a USB charger. So you're like, I'll steal the hospital's electricity through their television. They don't want us to steal electricity because maybe it's taking electricity from a life support machine, but I don't care. I'm going to cheese it from the bloody television.

Because it was three in the morning, my phone was about to die and I'm like, I'm the only one here and if I need to call anybody, I'll need my phone. The first thing I plugged it into was like one of those weird

beeping life support systems. I'm like, this will be fine. And I plugged it in and it just fucking split. Don't do it. Because it needs all the electricity for that. Yeah. Are you in the movie Airplane?

What are you doing? I know. I've been awake for like two days. You plug it in your phone to this thing and then behind you, you can see like everything's beeping and like all these nurses are running in and they're doing CPR on some dude. You're in a naked gun movie so anyway there's you know there's like tvs hanging from the ceiling i plugged into that and

i sat the phone on the back i'm like that'll be fine there like nine feet in the air yes and then i turned on the tv but the when the phone starts charging it vibrates and then it dropped and hit the ground and smashed and i'm like of course it course it did. Why would I? Why would I? I should have just left it plugged into that weird machine. Yeah, absolutely. Should have killed that man. You know, every time you break the screen, then you swipe the phone, you cut your finger, try to check your bloody tweets, mate.

It's a nightmare. Anyway, it's time for letters. Time for letters. If you want to reach the show, hashtag WeeklyPlanetPod on Twitter or WeeklyPlanetPod at gmail.com. If you want to send a long form email over to Mason. How long do you want the email to be, Mason? to reach the show hashtag weekly planet pod on twitter or weekly planet pod at gmail.com if you want to send a longer a long form email over to mason how long do you want the email to be mason as long as they can make it absolutely not one big text block as long as you can make it absolutely yeah yeah yeah just just i mean go off topic as often as you want you know do you ever read

anything that's like just one block i i don't because it's exhausting like i making sense of this is uh look i do but not but it's usually during the week it's not immediate like now when you've said can you get a letter oh because you can't skim through can't skim through it yeah i understand that would you like me to go first no i'll go first i'll give you a couple this is from james blanchard he says i graduate this week and it's all your fault uh i started listening to the podcast nearly three years ago when i started university here in the UK and over the years having something to listen to when walking around, going for a run or just trying to stop myself

going insane from all the work has really helped me get over the line and pull me through the tougher moments. Well, you're very welcome. We contributed. Almost nothing, but it's nice to be there. Thank you. Yeah, you did it. I'm finally graduating now and entering the big, wide, scary real world. There you go. It's pretty good in the real world, isn't it? Don't worry, it and entering the big, white, scary real world.

There you go. It's pretty good in the real world, isn't it? Yeah, it's better. Don't worry, it's all podcasts and whatever. It doesn't matter. As John Mayer once said, welcome to the real world. That's what he said. I mean, he was quoting somebody else in the song. Was he?

Yeah. He says, welcome to the real world, she said to me. I think it's the woman at university admissions, I think. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. John Mayer, huh? John Mayer, huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I had a friend who met John Mayer once. How'd that go? Didn't like him. All right. I don't mind him. I don't know anything about his music, but I've seen him in interviews and stuff. Okay.

Didn't he do stand-up for a little bit? He did, I think, yeah. Bet that went well. Maybe like a couple of times. He knows a lot about watches. Great. Yeah, yeah. Didn't he do a tour with Dave Chappelle?

Maybe. I think he did. John Mayer. Yeah. He's a buddy. But you know what? Who knows if he's nice or not? You meet someone, whatever, for a second, maybe John Mayer.

Yeah, we'll see. Maybe you caught him on a bad day. I don't know. Exactly. He seems nice. Yeah, that's right. He wears a lot of robes. Does he?

Yeah. Good on him. Watches and robes. Watches and robes. Anyway, so there's no question that email. It's just a nice thing you said. What were they studying at university? Let's find out.

It doesn't say. Very secretive, James Blanchard. Yeah. Very secretive. Yeah. You were probably studying competing podcasts and how to defeat a podcaster bachelor's degree and master's. Three-year course?

Oh, master's? Yeah. That's a four or five-year course. No, I'm not podcasting, though. Oh, okay. You can do that in an afternoon. Yeah, absolutely, you can. Yeah.

We're watching you. Just press record and just... Oh, he's going right back to you. You need to start a master's. Oh, there you go. It's all the real world, man. That's true. That's a lie.

You know what I mean? Everything is difficult at different points in your life for different reasons. That's what I think. Yeah. That's from Jeremyer says uh i think we've answered this but where do you fall on both the digital versus physical debate would you rather have a collection of blu-rays or consume everything digitally for a while like i got rid of everything yeah like i just i i moved house a couple of times and i just was like i don't want to move

these anymore yeah i'm getting rid of everything it's all streaming baby that's right but then it all disappears it all disappears everything you want exactly all the time. Everything you want. Exactly. And it's... Even things you buy. Yeah. They're just like, well, we don't want you to have that anymore. Or we lost the licensing for it. So that thing you purchased, you don't have it anymore.

Yeah, exactly. I think at this point, I think I'm slowly... I think I'm being more picky. But I'm like, okay, well, I would like to keep that on. This definitive version of Akira. Yeah, exactly. And I want it on blu-ray yeah you know and uh yeah i i i don't think we can rely on any company just deciding that they want us to keep having something yeah absolutely they're just going to be like yeah and you look at that for like the way video games are going as well people want things to be an ongoing service and things you pay for continuously.

And if you buy it digitally, then they can take it away and then sell it to you again later. I mean, I guess they count with physical as well, but yeah. They're not taking my Blu-rays. No, they're definitely not. Can't get in my house, take my Blu-rays. Because there's never been like a definitive format because formats keep changing. I just stopped kind of collecting physical stuff. The only thing I keep is video games. I've got like every video game i mean what we're saying

now doesn't factor in you can just steal everything you just steal everything just just digital is just you can just steal everything yeah that's it which does make it easier to watch things yeah but don't do that yeah but like i've got three or four streaming platforms but there's still movies where i'm like i have to still buy them because i go through all of them yeah and they don't and also because our internet is so bad in australia that if if i were like all like a lot of the current marvel movies are on one of our streaming services in australia but some aren't but some aren't but also if i think to myself oh i'd really like to watch thor ragnarok yeah i'd rather what get the blu-ray i'd rather go to the shops and buy the blu-ray and bring it back as and watch it in you know amazing color and yes smooth and looking

incredible stuttering and stuttering and then going you know downgrading to below standard definition yeah my internet connection is so slow and then it's pixelated and whatever exactly that's not how i'm supposed to be watching that i agree mason yeah do you have thor ragnarok on blu-ray no i should get it though. It's good. All right then, you should get it. And you will. Do you still keep video games that you've bought?

Do you? I don't think so. Do you have an old copy of TIE Fighter? No. Okay. Do you want one? Do you have one? No.

Then yes. Could you get me one? A listener can send you a copy of Top 5. Sounds really good. This is from Bobby Miller. Hello, Bobby Miller. Hey, James and Maceo. I noticed Spider-Man Far From Home included a...

We all noticed that movie. Thank you. It was in cinemas. It introduced a decent amount of new retcons into the MCU. I'm not going to spoil them. And I was wondering whether we think the MCU has made good, bad use of retcons, generally speaking. I think the changes have been small the retcons yeah right yes I want to say on the whole what do you think for the most part I

think so uh it's more like oh it's more like it's not a complete change it's like well that's a small bit of information which is yeah for sure um I guess Odin being evil was the retcon Loki being evil but I think that was always part of the plan, right? Yeah, right. Yeah, I think for the most part. Or what about Hydra and so many people being revealed as Hydra? I do wonder if you did it to say now it would be too far into the universe and it's too popular that people would accept it.

Because 2014 wasn't whenever that movie came out. It was a different time. It wasn't that long ago, whenever that was a different time wasn't that long ago but it was a different it was a different universe yeah they were you know the avengers movie was two years prior or whatever it wasn't you know that's true yeah so um yeah i think for for the most part they were but again yeah like the idea that like half the people in shield were in hydra nobody picked up on that? I feel like the only problem I have with that is there's a point in the Avengers where Tony Stark hacks into S.H.I.E.L.D.'s computer system.

Oh, and he doesn't. And I'm always like, wouldn't he? He, of all people, would have picked up on that. But I guess we wasn't looking for it. Yes, that's probably true. Or was he? Because wasn't he actually looking for HYDRA tech? He really was, yeah.

So I guess he probably should have. Find all instances of Hydra. Oh, there's one in every file. Yeah, so. Spreadsheet authored by Hydra Joe. I mean, I guess they don't have big octopus logos on letterheads. That's true, yeah. Saved into whatever.

Because the way that Hydra is kind of infiltrated is, a lot of them see it as it's just another kind of branch of S.H.I.E.L.D. that you're in within S.H.I.E.L.D. And you're not really evil. It's just part of whatever. What about Fury losing his eye? How do you feel about that? I'm sure we talked about it at the Capital Mart website.

I think a lot of people don't like it. I don't care. I think it's interesting and fitting of that character to lie about it because he's embarrassed. Yeah, for sure. Because he wants to be this enigma and he about it because he's embarrassed. Yeah, for sure. Because he wants to be this enigma and he's cool and he knows everything. But if he's like, well, an alien cat scratched it out, people would be like, what is wrong with you?

What are you doing? The only thing that doesn't quite sit right with me for that version is it seems to me that it's how did he make it from the 1990s to today without being horribly killed by something? If he's like I'm going to look at this mutant cat directly in the eye. And he's being told that it's a mutant cat. I'm going to keep it in my office. Like there's 20

more than 20 years where he's just like really? You didn't die in between? Was that his wake up call? I guess. But it's so weird that he let the cat stay in his office. Yeah. Don't you think that's strange?

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Maybe they came to an understanding. Maybe they did. Yeah. This is from Michael. Says, hashtag weekly planet pod. What do you think is the most underrated superhero movie?

I personally think it's Incredible Hulk with Edward Norton and Liv Tyler. It's better than people think. How about you? Oh. Constantine, Punisher Warzone. Yeah, they're good ones. 302, Rise of the Spartans. It's not bad, although we only saw that once, surely.

No, I won't. You won't admit to it? All right. I quite like Daredevil. I know it's not very good, but I quite like Daredevil. Yeah, right. What about you? I like Ghost Rider 2.

Oh, yeah, you do. I think it works. I think it works as a movie. a movie i still haven't seen that movie that's good i'm just bringing up some more what about like an angley's hulk no it sucks uh sorry angley yeah angley you're definitely people i've got i've got a list here i just some things they've got um like there's things in here like watchmen and dread but i think most people kind of oh they're not underrated no yeah then you got like batman and Dread, but I think most people kind of... Oh, they're not underrated at all. No, yeah. Then you've got like Batman and Robin and I wouldn't say... Sure, yeah. I think you could like that movie, but I don't think you could objectively be like, no, this is good. This is quality.

Yeah. Exactly. Yeah, I mean, you can enjoy a Batman and Robin insofar as you go, okay, well, remember when the 60s Batman was really camp and silly? Yeah. This is also... This is the same thing. What about like The Shadow? Because I know you like that kind of shit. I like and silly. Yeah. This is also, this is the same thing. What about like The Shadow?

Because I know you like that kind of shit. I like The Shadow. Yeah. Did you ever watch Sin City 2 on your iPad? I never did. Yeah. What about The Rocketeer? I like The Rocketeer.

That's not underrated. It's been that a while. Somebody put a post. It just didn't do well. Yeah. It might have been the same person put up a post in the Planet Broadcasting Great Mates Facebook group about that. the Rocketeer. Well, it's the same director as the first Avenger.

Oh. Yeah. Oh, Sky High. I don't think that's underrated. I think people just didn't see it. Yeah, for sure. Where do you sit on the Ninja Turtle movies? Any of them.

Oh. Very good, Mason. Do you mean which ones ones any of them uh i i i would guess that the first one still holds up like the very first live action one probably still holds up uh i didn't see ninja turtles 2003 no and of the new two the michael bay produced ones i like the second one i know that invalidates all my other opinions but no

your opinion in The Last Jedi invalidates all your other opinions well look I'm double invalidating all my opinions but I think that one's kind of fun again

because like Batman and Robin it's just the cartoon and they made it live action and you also love Dick Tracy the movie boy I haven't seen Dick Tracy the movie

the movie in a while yeah you excited for it? because isn't Warren Beatty still contracted? Still working on a sequel, yeah, something, yeah. Did we talk about this on the show or did we just talk about it in real life? No, you can talk about it now. I can't remember any details.

That's the thing. Basically, he was promised two, right? Yeah. Or a sequel and he was still cast and whatever. And then years, decades later. Yeah. He came back to the studio. I think maybe that's it.

I think it's that he still holds the think maybe that's it i think it's that he still holds the rights and that's why there hasn't been one because either he like there hasn't been a reboot or anything because he still holds the rights let's look it up real quick okay here we go this is den of geek uh so this this was this came in in 90 dick tracy came in in 1990 so it was basically meant to be the next batman because they were like well comic books dick tracy and batman were quite similar in the sense that they both had that bizarre rogues gallery of you know horribly mutated people i think that batman i guess owes a lot to dick tracy in terms of like the movie yeah horrific rogues galleries and stuff like that uh i remember

dick tracy trading cards bubble gum yeah i remember that yeah good good good good good disney's marketing department perhaps overestimated the recognisability and mass market appeal of the character who hadn't been seen in live action since the mid-50s. No shit. Yeah, that's true. I mean, that's, you know, that's the biggest difference. At least Batman had this TV series and the cartoons and all sorts of stuff.

The only reason that I've seen this movie is because we watched it in drama class. Did you really? Yeah. And it was mostly just like, that person's supposed to be Marilyn Monroe or whatever. Yeah. Did you see this matte painting? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Batman made $400 million worldwide.

Yeah. And Dick Tracy had similar elements, top drawer celebrities and ridiculous makeup. That's true. Remarkable set design. The biggest pop star of the year providing a soundtrack. Madonna. Breathless Mahoney. Yep. Dick Tracy finished with $162 million worldwide. That's true. Remarkable set design. The biggest pop star of the year providing a soundtrack. Madonna. Breathless Mahoney.

Yep. Dick Tracy finished with $162 million worldwide. Not bad. Not bad. In 2011, Beatty told the crowd at Hero Complex Festival in 2011, I think I said that, I'm going to make another one. And then he says, I think it's dumb talking about movies before you make them.

I just don't do it. It gives you the perfect excuse to avoid making them. So I don't know why. Yeah, I don't know either. Here's the deal. We can cut this out if it's boring. So he acquired the rights from the comics, Warren Beatty acquired the rights to Dick Tracy in 1985. I guess he was a fan of it. Yep. At some point, these rights were supposed to revert to the publisher if no new Tracy projects were forthcoming from Warren Beatty, as long as they requested them via some legal gymnastics

and a two-year notification process. That window would allow Warren Beatty enough time to make another Dick Tracy movie before handing the character over. So if he was like, so if they hadn't made a Dick Tracy 2, they could be like, hey, we're putting in the paperwork, we're going to want the character back, and then he could make Dick Tracy 2 in that kind of time window. Are they trying to wait him out so he dies?

Well, Tribune tried to make this happen in 2002, but their claim was rejected after Beatty filed a suit indicating that the proper procedures weren't followed, the two-year window wasn't respected, and he still had plans to make a sequel. So basically it went, he had it for a decade, and more than a decade they didn't ask for it back, but then they did in 2002.

Since then, Mr Beatty has retained the rights, presumably with the same two-year window in place, to allow him to make another movie should the publisher come a-knocking. Holy hell. He made a movie called Rules Don't Apply in 2016, where he plays Howard Hughes. And the movie before that he made was 2001. There was a big gap. But in 2008, there was something called called the dick tracy tv special okay and i'm just trying to find anything on that because i clicked on it it took me straight to

yeah because it just takes me the tracy wikipedia page uh in 2008 baity convinced cinematographer someone someone and film critic someone lennon moulton to make dick tracy tv special for turner classic movies which featured baity as tracy having a retrospective interview interview with moulton oh in characters dickive interview with Moulton. Oh, in character as Dick Tracy? I guess so. Moulton explicitly asks a fictional Tracy if Warren Beatty is planning to make a sequel to the 90 film, and he responds that he's heard about it, but Moulton needs to ask Beatty himself.

What is this? Why? I don't know. I don't know. Fuckery going on here. Don't ask me, Dick Tracy. Ask the actor Warren Beatty who plays Dick Tracy in the movies. Who you could have asked as himself had he not set up an elaborate pantomime situation

in which he was portraying me, Dick Tracy detective. Also, Warren Beatty is 82 years old. Yeah, right. Nobody wants this. No, absolutely not. Yeah. Wow. Anyway.

Maybe he wants it. Why is he holding on to it? I don't know yeah is it kind of like is he holding on in that in that way that you'd be like well if we did make another one it would be like a like a blockbuster it would be like an avengers end game we would make a billion dollars but i'll do it when i'm ready it would make no money exactly it would make zero dollars exactly yeah yeah i mean, like, and everything Dick Tracy does is, like, outmoded

now. Like, he had, like, a two-way wrist radio. I remember, yeah. That was his big... That was his big... He had a big banana yellow trench coat. He absolutely did. Yeah, he had all these... I mean, I think it was upgraded to a TV. It was a TV wristwatch at one point, but, you know. Yeah. We've all got Apple Watches now, so...

We don't care. Or delightful movement watches. That's right. I do not have an Apple Watch. No, I also don't have an Apple Watch. Oh, maybe we're the target audience for Dick Tracy movies. You're like, wow. Are you kidding me? TV to watch.

He's 82. Oh my God, he's so sprightly. You can't tell under his banana yellow trench coat. All right, do you want to bring the show to an epic conclusion? Thank you everybody for listening we bloody love it thank you for sticking through Dick Tracy sorry about that maybe there's some people out there like oh my god

I'm very interested in that that's fascinating to me thank you for subscribing and telling a friend giving us a nice review we bloody appreciate it if you'd like to get a hold of us you can go to Weekly Planet Pod on Facebook and Gmail and Facebook. And Twitter.

And Twitter. And Bandcamp. And Instagram, probably. Yeah, probably. You mentioned reviews, Mason. I've gone on here for the week. Do you mind? Please.

This is from Hoops McKenzie says I listen to every- That's a great name. I agree. To every episode at least twice. Do you think their name is Hooper? No. I think it's just Hoops. Hoops McKenzie.

Yeah. Okay, right. If you want an expert analysis on all things anime, then this is the show for you. The podcast is easily all my favorite things. This podcast is easily my favorite of all the podcasts I listen to. James and Mason's chemistry together is what really makes it work. Listening to two old friends that clearly know how to make each other laugh

and share a passion for a common subject is really what makes it for me and is more than likely the reason for their success. This is so kind, Mason. It is very nice. I thought you were just going to say some old farts. If you have, and you've got a bit interested in comics and movies in general, then you need to listen to this podcast. Are you there, James?

I know you are. The screen lights bathing your sunken, dead, defeated eyes, usually dripping from your beard as you pull up the podcast reviews, as you spiral into a dark abyss, hoping and praying for a light that will pull you out, but it never comes. So you continue on languishing in relative obscurity of podcast fame. You know,

it could easily come crashing down around you at any second. And sometimes in your darkest moments, you wish it would. Anyways, five stars. That's very good. You wrote that, didn't you?

I did not. When I joined about that, I'm going through it. And then it, then it addressed to me. It's like a little play. So there you go. That was great stuff. Well, more of those, please.

Thanks for reviews. Put some fanfic in there. But do we want this exact thing or are you talking about some creativity? Do anything you want. Yeah, okay. Go nuts with it. I mean, five stars would be great.

I mean, this is done is what I'm saying. But what I'm saying is let your creative flag fly except in terms of how many stars you give us. You should give us five stars. That is locked in. That's absolutely. That's a five-star creative flag flying. Absolutely.

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Open it up. Looks good. It's fuzzy, you know, like a peach. Let me check what format this is on, but keep going, Mason. You can also bloody get our T-shirts on tpublic.com, all the logos. It is on Blu-ray. There you go. That's veryublic.com, all the logos. That is on Blu-ray. There you go. That's very nice.

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They are. Yeah. All right. Next week, Comic Con and I guess The Lion King. I don't know how much I'll have to say about that other than... It's the same. It's the fucking Lion King, isn't it? Very nice.

Isn't it just? Yeah. All right, everybody. Thanks for listening. Grab that gem, you guys. All right, everybody. Thanks for listening. Grab that gem, you guys. We'll see you next week. Goodbye. Can you wait for the Comic Con woos, Mason?

And that, ah! You know? I'm fired up about them again, actually. I love the woos. Yeah, I love the woos, too. And they'll never stop. Yeah, it's really good. All right.

Maybe they'll bring back Dick Tracy. They'll peddle that wine. Oh, what if this is it? I think, do you reckon if that happens, there there would be woos or there would be silence? I think there'd be, ooh. I don't know if there'd be silence because I think there's people there of like our age or above. Yeah. Who are like massive fans.

I wonder that. But also, I don't think there'd be, like if you go, hey guys, new Iron Man movie, woo. But I think, I wonder if the power of Comic-Con makes people just woo everything. Or is this the line? What if they come out and they go, listen, we've got a new Dick Tracy. People start to woo. Then you go, interactive story, mobile game with microtransactions. And Warren Beatty's in it.

That's right, yeah. In character. Yeah. Yeah, that would be great. And you can play it on your Apple Watch. Yes, as Dick Tracy intended. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates.

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