The Weekly Planet - 295 The Lion King 2019

Episode Date: July 29, 2019

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The Weekly Planet, The Weekly Planet Welcome back, everybody, to another episode hole The Weekly Planet The Weekly Planet Welcome back everybody to another episode of The Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comedy and TV show. My name is James. With me as always is my co-host Nick Mason. I'm here to provide first aid for when James has a stroke, which is happening right now. That was me putting the right emphasis on the right words at the right time.

Was it? I understand this a little bit Hearing loss is very common when you're having a stroke Oh wait, I haven't got my headphones plugged in, that's bloody why And you're having a stroke I don't want to be having a stroke That's the first sign of having a stroke denial I've been stroke free since 93, you know that

Yeah, that's true It's the weekly platter This one's recorded a bit early Away for the weekend Well, I was away, I'm back by now by the time this comes out It's the weekly platter. This one's recorded a bit early. Way early. Away for the weekend. Well, it was away. I'm back by now, by the time this comes out. I mean, we assume that's the case.

That's right. You go to the Gold Coast, you might have been glassed by now. I probably have been glassed, to be honest. I think I've told this before, but every time I go to the Gold Coast, I see the most insane thing I've ever seen. Yeah, right. I'm like, oh, shit. What happened last time?

That's a very good question. One time, though, I think I've said this before, a guy I was with in a group of people, I saw him just talking to a man in the street and then he flicked his cigarette into the guy and then it bounced off the guy and then he picked it up and he put it out on his face. And I'm like, whoa.

Oh, yeah. It's a pretty good one. I mean, that's probably not the most insane thing I've ever seen. But I remember thinking, it's weird that guy's just standing there. Well, exactly. Yeah. But I think he's probably been like,

this definitely isn't happening Oh wait it is though It's definitely happening Yeah Bad news up top Rutger Hauer has died Oh the Gold Coast thing Isn't bad news already

No this is worse news Somehow Okay Age 75 Which is not super old No Of a short illness It's not sure what that is

At this point But yeah people would know him Obviously more recently From movies like Batman Begins and Sin City, Hobo with the Shotgun, Valerian. Oh, City of a Thousand Planets. Which I actually really like. Oh, there you go.

I still haven't seen it. I'll get to it one day. Obviously, Roy Batty in Blade Runner. Yeah, for sure. He was in Lady Hawk. And he was also a personal favorite of mine, Blind Fury, where he's a blind ninja. Oh, that Daredevil-esque situation.

I've never seen it. Is it good? I don't know if it still holds up, but it was good at the time. Yeah. Yeah. He's cutting people in half. Don't worry about it. Apparently a very nice man.

That's what they say. Our friend Hollywood Pete works with a person who met him. They were out for lunch. Oh, he was there as well. And the guy was like, I just want to ask you Blade Runner questions. And he's like, fuck yeah, I'll talk about Blade Runner all day. Yeah. So that's super cool.

And that's, I mean, that's probably one of the most iconic. Sci-fi moments characters. Yeah, characters, monologues of all time probably. Because he had a hand in writing that as well, didn't he? Yeah, I believe so, yeah. We've done a Blade Runner episode. Steel Saunders was on it. That's right.

We all had a good time. So yeah, look, it's a big loss, you know. He's done some really good stuff. By all accounts, a very nice man. These things happen, you know. And yet while we're losing one Rutger Hauer, we are gaining a Will Smith. Oh, that's so true. Do you think the spirit of Rutger Hauer has entered the body of young Will Smith?

I hope so. It feels that way. Yeah. Again, old Will Smith doesn't look that much older than young Will Smith. No. Well, here's the thing. I was going to tell you this before the show show but i'm going to surprise you with this right now is will smith here which one young will smith or old will smith are we going to do a rap together actually the young will smith in that movie is entirely digital it's but it's like a motion capture performance capture capture thing that 50-year-old Will Smith is doing.

Simultaneously with old Will Smith. I guess he is, yeah. So that's how that's actually coming together. So that's a CGI character. But you're right, they don't look that different. Okay, so when you say CGI character, do you mean... It's a digital human. Okay, but what I'm saying is,

did old Will Smith come on set and act as young Will Smith and then they painted over the top? With the mo-cap face. Oh, okay, right, right. There's a feature that was released before the trailer. And he went on set for that, so he didn't do that in, like, a room and then it was built in real time. I mean, sometimes they do pick-ups with, like,

do more crying young Will Smiths. They do a lot of crying, isn't it? Yeah. Like a lot of red eyes, like, who am I? Clive Owen. Clive Owen, who am I? You can do that digitally now anyway. Clive Owen Clive Owen who am I? You can do that digitally now anyway Clive Owen

Yeah Who am I? Yeah You're my son and I love you But really you're not Because you're Will Smith Yeah Surely you'd be like

We don't look anything alike Maybe I should trust the guy Who looks exactly like me Why do you Why do you have a British accent dad? And I don't What's going on there? What do you think about this?

Do you think it's going to be good? The action looks in this i was very skeptical again it's angley who i mostly like sure right uh yeah you just think the hulk though but he's done a lot of things i know he's done brokeback mountain obviously and other things so yeah which is really which is really good but with the badness of hulk yeah really overwhelms everything else for me but gemini man looks it's looking pretty good i didn't think it would work on any level, but we need some sweet motorcycle action. It looks like there

looks to be a chase sequence where it looks like Will Smith has taken some heavy hits and it looks real and looks solid. It does, absolutely. I think also, I think we mentioned this last time there was a trailer. Because you were saying he doesn't look that different. He's not that much younger. Maybe you do a Harrison Ford.

Maybe you do a Bruce Willis. A better, obviously. Someone who cares about cinema. You think you can get Bruce Willis to sit around and put on the mo-cap suit? Absolutely not. Absolutely not. You do it as a joke, as maybe a bit part in an Ocean sequel.

That's probably true, yeah. And that's how you get him to do it. You tell him it's an Ocean sequel. You tell him he's a bit part. But then sequel. That's probably true, yeah. And that's how you get him to do it. That's right. You tell him it's an Ocean sequel, you tell him he's a bit part, but then you just chuck him in a warehouse for weeks. For 40 days.

And you make him do it. Yeah, right? That's what I would do. Oh, for sure, yeah. Yeah. So do you think maybe they should have gone an older action hero, is what I'm saying? Yeah, you're Schwarzenegger or something like that.

But then you're getting Will Smith. But I guess they've also... He's a good actor, though. Yeah, that's true. They've also done... I feel like the novelty... Somebody like Schwarzenegger, the novelty has worn off because we've even seen him do old T-800,

young T-800 in Terminator Genisys. So you do a Van Damme. You do a Van Damme. You do a Lundgren. Oh, Lundgren could work. You do a Stallone. Yeah. And we should talk about that because Sylvester Stallone has said... Oh, by the way... Expendables 4. Oh, Lundgren could work. You do a Stallone. Yeah. And we should talk about that because Sylvester Stallone has said,

oh, by the way. Expendables 4. Oh, God, I hope not. Oh, they're bad. They're bad movies. Oh, yeah. Now, we don't know that for sure. All we know is we saw Expendables 3,

and everybody told us it was the best of the series, and it's bad. I've seen some of one, but I fell asleep. Okay, cool. Yeah, and I did not enjoy that either. There's going to be gonna be a oh but yeah if we've missed some news it's because we recorded this way early yeah but just but just messages to tell us regardless or we didn't think whatever news you thought was relevant was relevant that's probably more likely actually yeah uh he's talking about a rocky prequel tv show which is not super

interesting to me because i mean mean, what are we? It's called Rocky Before He Knew How to Box. He could box a little bit, but he was mostly breaking thumbs and maybe delivering crates of fruit. I don't know what Rocky did before he was Rocky. You'd have to recast that, obviously, for a TV series. And it'll explain, obviously, in the tradition of sequels how he got his grandma glasses.

Yeah, all those things. I love that, yeah. Was that only a thing for Rocky Balboa, though? Or did he have his grandma glasses in the original? I think he had his grandma glasses in Rocky 1. Yeah, fair enough. And the other one is a sequel movie, and Sloane's talked about this, it's Rocky meets a young, angry person who got stuck in this country

when he comes over to see his sister. He takes him into his life and unbelievable adventures begin and they wind up south of the border. It's very, very timely. Does it have anything to do with boxing? No. It's just a road trip to the south of the border. Tijuana, baby! Oh, sounds good.

Margaritas and such. So yeah, I guess the Creed story's done, isn't it? I guess. Depends. What happened at the end of Creed 2 Creed 1 back being he was the best Creed oh yeah Creed by name

Creed by nature for sure Creed the band and then Rocky got to go Creedence Clearwater Revival yes Rocky got to go Creed 2 Cruise Control

Rocky got to go see his son oh yeah that's right hello Ventimiglia yes I'm a bit kind of like. I'm a bit of kind of like. Yeah.

I don't know whether I want this to happen necessarily. But you know what? The last three have been, well, they're mostly good, aren't they? Yeah, they are mostly good. But it does sound like this one he just wants to, it sounds like he just wants to do like a kind of fun comedy drama about two unlikely friends that go on an adventure. Sure.

But then they wouldn't give any money for it. So he just went, it's a Rocky sequel? And they went, okay, all right. We'll take that. He should have done Gemini Man. Yeah. But they already de-aged him in the one where he fought, what's his name, De Niro?

Did they? It's like a weird Rocky parody, Raging Bull kind of thing. Don't remember that. Yeah, it's got Alan Arkin in it. How old is this? Like four years old maybe. Is it really? Maybe six years old.

Good Lord. Yeah, I can't remember what it's called. You ever think about that weird... I think about a lot of things. Yeah, that... Ask me what it is, what you're saying. I'm going to say, do you ever think about that? There's that weird kind of undercurrent of like former A-list stars that are just doing

weird director video stuff for like... I never think about that. Righteous Kill. I said I think about a lot of stuff. Pacino and weird director video stuff. I never think about that. Righteous Kill. I said I think about a lot of stuff. Pacino and De Niro. I don't think about that. Yeah, nobody does. What's happening there?

No, I do actually, yeah. Well, it's like all the Bruce Willis sequels, the Travolta stuff. Yeah. You know, he's got a different wig and a different goatee or a different bandana. He's being a different mob boss every movie. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I guess it's just there's money in it, isn't there?'s just there's there's money in it isn't there i

guess and you know if you follow the bruce willis uh system which is anytime they're not looking directly at your face it's a stand-in yes then i guess you can do a movie in a day yeah if you if you're if you're of that level you definitely can yeah i guess it's not a money thing is it i guess it's maybe for some people it is a money that's Maybe that's the thing. I'd imagine for like a Nicolas Cage. But he's always kind of done anything. Yes. But he also still has kind of hits. Like Travolta isn't knocking things out of the park anymore, is he?

Yeah, right. He needs another Tarantino. But is that enough? Look, maybe it's one of those... Is that enough, Travolta? Exactly. Enough chances. Maybe it's that thing of kind of like,

well, you go, okay, to maintain my Hollywood lifestyle, I need a million dollars a month. Oh, he's got it. Because he's got planes and yeah exactly that's what i'm saying just just on jet fuel alone i reckon so it's probably like okay well i need don't go anywhere it's probably like i need it and everybody leases everything as well in hollywood nobody owns anything get one of those virtual bloody cockpit things that people have exactly sell your 747 get a copy of Microsoft Flight Simulator on Windows XP.

Exactly. They've got them at shopping centres. Yeah, right? Just get in and fly a plane. Yeah. I don't know what that is. I don't know either. It's wild, right? Yeah. But do you think it's also they don't understand necessarily the landscape of media nowadays? And this is the work that's getting thrown their way? Yeah, maybe. That's

probably true. But then again, Pacino and De Niro are doing that mobster film with Scorsese for Netflix. Joe Pesci's in it as well. It's coming out. It's called The Irishman, I want to say. And they're all DH. None of them are The Irishman at all, though.

One of them is The Irishman. Is it De Niro? It could be De Niro. It's probably De Niro. He's probably the most Irish of those three. Well, because he did Ronin, which was set in France. So that's as close as any of them has gotten to Europe. That's true.

And he had that big green hat with a belt buckle on it, didn't he? Yeah, he did. Yeah. And he took all me lucky charms. All of your lucky charms. Yes. Wow, he really got into character. Or he's just very Irish in real life.

That's probably it, yeah. Yeah. But they're de-aging them for a lot of that movie. Wow. And no one's seen any of it. The only thing is there's a picture on set of De Niro. Not even the director, he can't bear to look at it. He's like, oh, this is going to be bad. I don't want to look. Look this picture on set of De Niro. Not even the director, he can't bear to look at it. He's like, oh, this is going to be bad.

I don't want to look. Look this up. Look up De Niro. People need to see this. Look up De Niro on set. Am I going to describe this too? Absolutely you are. Because I feel like you've got the knowledge of fashion.

Okay. I can't wait for whatever this is. Oh, yeah, I saw that. Yeah, they're in their trench coats. Look at his big shoes. Oh, yeah, I saw that. Yeah, they're in their big, they're in their trench coats. Look at his big shoes. Oh, my goodness. Wow. I was going to say, like, they look like, this one here specifically,

they look like Hot Toys versions of themselves. You know, those realistic, like, you get a Robert Downey Jr. Iron Man or whatever. Because the suit, like, the cloth is too thick on them or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what it looks like. So what is it? Do you want to explain what this is? It's Robert De Niro standing next to Al Pacino. They've got young man hair.

They've got young man hair. They're wearing like sort of 1960s style overcoats. De Niro is wearing platform, like he's wearing maybe four inches on that? At least four inch like platform soles. And it's not like they're heels or they're like hidden in in the boots or whatever they've just they're clearly they're like well they're not going to look at we're not going to pan to his feet so it's just like a like a like a four inches of just like rubber on the shoe anyway that's great stuff i appreciate you people have like taken that photo

of him with these with his big hair and his heels and you know when bart simpson tries to get the role for radioactive man yeah he comes out with the tall hair and the big shoes. Yeah. Anyway, so that's The Irishman. Huh. Excited? Good stuff. I'm so excited for that.

I mean, it's Scorsese and he always gives it a bloody red hot go. He's still doing some good stuff. It's good stuff. I thought you'd enjoy that. Yeah, it's really good. So we've got some Marvel news. The What If series, the animated one. Apparently it's only going to focus on the first 23 movies.

Only the first 23 movies. So the Infinity Saga, basically. And it's got to be What If stories that twist off that. So it's not necessarily going to be the stories from the comics, the What If, which we discussed last week. Yeah, right on. So yeah, what do you think of that? Does that limit the...

Not really. I mean, did we think the what ifs were going to cover all the movies immediately before? Well, there's some stuff in the logo that's like, it looks like they're doing zombies and stuff, but you can still spin off one of those into zombies. That's what I'm saying. You can do, yeah. Like maybe Doctor Strange gets trapped in a weird zombie dimension or whatever. Yeah.

There you go. Cool. Anything in particular you want to see? What if Red Skull didn't grab the cube with his bare hand? Oh, yeah. Why didn't he do that? Probably still be hanging out. Why did he do that?

That's a really good question, isn't it? Why are you doing that? It was pointed out, I think it might have been pointed out on the Planet Broadcasting Great Mates Facebook group that if Odin didn't leave the Tesseract on Earth, nothing ever would have happened in the Marvel Universe. Just give it to some nobody person.

Yeah, in space. No, I just meant like on Earth. He'd be like, yeah, this guy on Earth, this guy in this village. Yeah, that's true. Can you put it in a wall or a drawer? Yeah, sure, yeah. But don't tell anyone, okay? You clearly told somebody didn't yeah exactly yeah

but yeah but there'd be no hydra there'd be no shield yeah there'd probably be no iron man no captain marvel no captain america yeah yeah oh wow there you go well that's a good thing they did then no hulk no hulk yeah wow just hawkeye and black widow probably so did hulk get his radio radioactive stuff from the tesseract because that it says it does gamma stuff, right? Here we go. What have you got? Well, I was going to say, no, I think the current continuity for the movies is Bruce Banner attempted to replicate the super soldier serum with gamma radiation

and then he became the Hulk. Also, it's Tesseract. Yeah, I know. Why don't you take the tea off? Why wouldn't I? It's insane. It's insane. I'm the sanest man here. Why do you take the T off? Why wouldn't I? It's insane. It's insane. I'm the sanest man here.

What do you think of that? That might be true. It doesn't save any time. No, it doesn't. It's just the way I say it. And maybe I'll change, but maybe I won't. Maybe I'm locked into it forever. You know?

Yeah. Maybe me suggesting you change has caused you to dig your heels in and you'll never change. That's entirely possible. So there you go. So it's going to add one twist, like adding just one twist to the cycle and just seeing how differently it comes down.

That sounds good. That sounds like fun. We talked about this in our live show we did last week. By the way, if you want to donate. Oh, yes. Do it. We'd really appreciate it. The Planet Broadcasting thing, as of now, it's like $14,500. Something the way, if you want to donate, do it. We'd really appreciate it. The Planet Broadcasting thing,

as of now, it's like $14,500. Something like that, yeah. Even more by next week. The live show we did for the charity campaign. I mean, we might have to take

some of the money out because you've been glassed. Oh, yeah. So you'll need that for hospital care. Let's get my face back together. Yeah, exactly. I think I said that,

we talked about Mad Max and I think I said they're never going to make another one of these, but George Miller says that the chaos between, because there was this whole rights thing ensuing and people weren't getting paid, specifically him. The chaos has stabilized and it's become extremely positive as the dust seems to have settled after the AT&T merger. So maybe we will be getting the two Mad Max sequels plus the Furiosa spinoff.

I was actually watching Mad Max just before you came around, Fury Road. That is, it's so good. It really is, yeah. I forget how good it is. It's the best action film of 2015 at least. Better than The Force Awakens, Mason? Yes.

Better than another film that came out that year? Age of Ultron, maybe? Sure. Yeah, sure. Absolutely. Yeah, there you go. No fooling. No fooling, yeah. I mean, maybe? Sure. Yeah. Sure. Absolutely. Yeah, there you go. No fooling.

No fooling. Yeah. I mean, George Miller is like 74. He'd have to go back out in the desert and live there for four years or whatever he did the last time he did it. But you know what? I want to see it. He's a doctor. He'll bring his own antihistamines.

It's fine. He knows what he's doing. That's it. Are you excited for Tarantino's new movie, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood? A little bit. When's that coming out? Pretty soon, August? Pretty soon.

A couple of weeks. A week. A couple of weeks. Next week is Hobbs and Shaw as well, I believe. Oh, that's Hollywood. A little bit. When's that coming out? Pretty soon, August? Pretty soon, a couple of weeks. Next week is Hobbs and Shaw as well, I believe. Oh, that's right, yeah. Excited for Hobbs and Shaw? Yes. I mean, we know what's going to happen. Hobbs and Shaw?

Yeah. But I mean, the most recent trailer did. Oh, yeah. It was like this and then... It meets his family. It meets his family and then they're going to beat him up on an island. That's what's going to happen. It should be called Idris Elba gets beaten up on an island.

And then in the next movie, Idris Elba becomes a good guy. That's what's going to happen. It should be called Idris Elba gets beaten up on an island. And then in the next movie Idris Elba becomes a good guy and joins the team. Yeah, that's right. And we find another person to be the villain. Yeah. And then they get beaten up

and then their brother or sister shows up and then they get beaten up. Then we pick one of those and they become a good guy and then we find another bad guy. And as always, it remains to be all about family.

Absolutely. Fast Nine started as well. You saw that? No. Yeah. Vin Diesel's looking good. He's bloody started as well. You saw that? No. Yeah. Vin Diesel's looking good. He's bloody ripped, mate. Oh, yeah?

He's must have been doing all sorts of dietary situations. Getting hard-boiled. And weightlifting and things. You know what people do for exercise and fitness? I'm aware of the concept of it, yeah. Okay, good. You get it. Yeah, sort of.

FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret. The other, a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+. Tarantino, though, he said that he spoke to Uma Thurman

about Kill Bill Vol. 3. Oh, yes. Because if you remember around the time that those movies came out, by the way, he recently came out and said, Kill Bill Vol. 1 and 2, they're actually one movie. Well, why did we pay twice? I paid twice for that movie you son of a bitch yeah that's right

and we got a double because remember when we did get a double yeah but in America I was going to say in America

that Grindhouse team up movie him and Robert Rodriguez was one movie in Australia they split it up into two

and it's still bombed so we've done the double twice thanks for nothing Quentin Tarantino we went out of our way to not see that i remember at the time yes like that's outrageous and it was also those aren't very good no they're not yeah so there you bloody go but uh anyway so if you recall

from kill bill volume one i think one she kills one of the people who revenged her who is it and her already she maybe and her daughter's like, remember she does it in the kitchen through the cereal box or whatever? Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes. Uh-huh. And she's like, in 20 years or whatever,

why don't you, you got a problem with me because I shot your mother. Why don't you bloody come see me or whatever? Oh, yes. And we're coming up on that. Are we really? Yeah.

I thought that was 2003, I want to say. Oh, my God. So there you go. We're so young. Is that, yep. Yep. Or another age. Yeah, that's right.

So, yeah. Okay. I don't know whether that's going. Yep. Or another age. Yeah, that's right. So, yeah. Okay. I don't know whether that's going to happen. I hope it does because it's going to be anything that they've, you know, been talking about for years. Uma Thurman seems like she could definitely still do it. Is Uma Thurman and Quentin Tarantino still, are they still working together? After the whole incident?

After that accident. The accident with the car murder? Sure. Yeah. Car murder? Accident. Yeah. Accident. Was it, was car murder? Sure. Car murder? Accident. Yeah. Accident.

Was somebody killed? No. It's when Uma Thurman was in the car and there's footage of her and she nearly died. Yeah. Yeah. I guess they're still talking at least. Okay, good. All right.

Yeah. Huh. All right. So there you go. Just felt like suspicious circumstances. Yeah, it did. Very much so. Here's something that's not suspicious, Mason.

Okay. Good segue. Yes. Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is going to be developed as a TV series for Hulu. Oh. They recently did Good Omens.

That's true. And The Tick. And I feel like those... No, Tick's on Amazon. But either way, Good Omens is kind of a Hitchhiker's... It's got that kind of feel. It does, doesn't it?

So I could definitely feel like this is a good home for it. And I think you could do a kind of... Not a definitive version, but a long-form version, which could do it justice. What did you think of the movie? It's fine. I also think it's fine. I quite like that one.

It's been a long time since I've seen it. I prefer the book because I'm a man who reads books. You read books? I have The Hitchhiker's Fire, the five-volume, in the boot of my car right now. books you read books i have the hitchhikers uh five the five volume in the boot of my car right now have you read them all yes wow i think i read one and two maybe no i'd recommend you read them all well give me a copy all right i'll give it to you i don't want it i want a real book i'm digital or nothing as as is tradition i guess yeah for sure or i can just watch the movie again that's's true, yeah. Is it two or five books? Or you could watch the British TV version from the 80s or whatever it was.

Do you reckon that's good? Yeah, let's say it is. Should we? Should we say that? Yeah. That's pretty... I bet it's got a certain Red Dwarf charm about it. I bet it doesn't.

I feel I've seen some of it. People don't talk about it, though, do they? No, that's true. So, yeah, Carlton Coos is behind it. He did Lost Jack Ryan. And so did Jason Fuchs, who worked on Wonder Woman and also Pan. Speaking of Wonder Woman,

I think we talked about last week the CW's gearing up for this crisis on Infinite Earths. Yes. So Brandon Routh is going to be the Kingdom Come Superman. Yes. So the Richard Donner Superman, but it's Kingdom Come. Grey Temples? I think so.

He's going to have the Kingdom Come logo which is going to be pretty good. Also I'm pretty sure locked in that Tom Welling's coming back. Really?

Smallville. This is what I've heard. Okay. I thought that was a rumor. But also how about this? Yeah.

Also Burt Ward's coming back. As like an older 60s Robin. Wow. That's incredible. And Linda Carter's coming back. Wow.

This is what I've heard. Really? Yeah. Because she's the president of the United States in the Supergirl series. Yes. So she's also going to be Wonder Woman. But from another dimension, I assume. Yes, yeah.

Oh, wow, that's great. And Dean Cain. No, it's not no. But you could get him. No, why would you though? But you could, Mason. I guess you could. You could could get him. I know. Why would you, though? But you could, Mason. I guess you could. You could get the kid from Superboy.

Well, there was two actors I think who played Superboy in that Superboy TV series. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right. Yeah, yeah. You could get Jerry O'Connell from My Secret Identity. Yep. Superman-esque. Yeah.

You could get Alex Mack. Yeah. The Secret Life of Alex Mack. Definitely. Yeah. You could get Beans Baxter. Animal Flegets. You can get Agro from Agro's Cartoon Connection.

Get the host of Cheese TV, yeah. You can get Marty Monster. You can get Gibbo. You can get Gibbo. I love a local reference Mason. There you go. You can get Mr. Squiggle, the man on the moon. Yes.

Or from the moon or wherever he is. I think he's from the moon. From the moon, yeah. Yeah. Mr. Squiggle. You can get that nightmare woman from Mulligrubs. You know're the one she's just got facial features but there's no head what are they like they must have blued her face yeah no good yeah people know mulligrubs right google it everyone yeah google it be the worst thing you'll see today uh next bit of news last bit of news

all right i'm ready spawn updateawn update. Oh, okay. This is what Todd McFarlane said who was writing and directing the Spawn movie. Okay. I don't know what I'm doing. I haven't written anything in years. I just do hot toys now. Yeah, it's just statuettes. The money's sitting on the sidelines ready to go. I just need to get everyone that wants in to put money to shake their heads on the same script.

As you can imagine, everyone has a slightly different version of it in their head. You go and try to appease a handful of people while not giving in to what it is I'm trying to do myself because if I have to change it too much, I'll just walk away from it all. So basically, it's not happening right now. Right, okay, sure. There's a bit of a delay on it, yeah. I know, and every time we do this, we've looked up what he's directed and it turns out he did a Korn film clip

and whatever we won't go down that road again but I am curious because I don't think we've ever had a writer creator

artist then direct a property of the film adaptation I believe Frank Miller? they didn't create

the spirit okay did he not direct Sin City 2? not really because if you look at the spirit no okay right yeah i mean i guess that's that's the closest i would say yeah but okay yeah okay so this might be it i mean yeah i don't know whether that's good or bad unless everybody is

holding off on giving the money and the script or whatever because they're like we don't want you to direct this i don't see how this could make money, though. I don't know. Maybe there's a lot of Closet Spawn fans out there. I know there's a lot of, but enough? Like, it would have to surpass that. It would have to break outside of that. I don't know if you know this, but superheroes are so hot right now. Yeah, but would you look at him and go, that's a marketable and, like...

He's so metal. He's got chains and capes. Literally, yeah, I know that. You know? One cape. Yeah. I mean, it can do many things. But what a cape. Yeah, what a cape. He's got chains and capes. Literally, yeah, I know that. You know? One cape. Yeah. I mean, it can do many things. But what a cape.

Yeah, what a cape. It's good. Yeah. I don't know. I'm not saying, I mean, I was wrong about Deadpool. I thought when Fox were doing Deadpool, I'm like, they're definitely going to fuck this up. And they didn't. So the guy who created it is probably, you know, that's as good as any, I guess.

That's true, yeah. And there's no, nobody could then go be like, well, this isn't true to the spirit of the original Spawn. You'd be like, well, the That's true, yeah. And nobody could then go be like, well, this isn't true to the spirit of the original Spawn. You'd be like, well, the guy created it, so quit your whining. Quit your whining. Start your dining. Enjoy a delicious meal. You'll feel better.

Right? Yeah, it's a Spawn-themed restaurant. That's what it is. Oh, my goodness. Yes. We're in an ad. You ever do that? You turn around, you're in an ad?

All the time. At least once a week. Sometimes more than once a week. Sure, that happens. Yeah, sometimes I'm just at the supermarket in the dairy cabinet. I'll send them in the bloody ad cabinet. You know? Now, Audible members, they know what it's about, Mason,

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We are going to talk about The Lion King. We didn't do it last week because of San Diego Comic Con, but I just want to quickly say, if you want my thoughts on The Lion King, but like less late at night and more in depth, I did Primates last week with Matt Stewart, Evan Monroe-Smith, who's the second banana of that show, and Claire Tonti, my wife, from the suggestible podcast and other various podcasts on Planet Network, broadcasting network things.

So we talked about The Lion King for a very, very long time. And if you want to hear a man, specifically Evan, go off chops about The Lion King, then that's the place that you want to go. Because he loves The Lion King? Hmm. Interesting. Yeah, nice.

Okay. But I'll link it below, and it's a great and funny show, and it was a lot of fun, and you should check it out. And we recorded in this very room Mason oh that's why there's so many microphones that's right well

you're a real Sherlock Holmes let's get rid of some of these microphones no so The Lion King as of about now when we're recording this it's made like

600 million worldwide it'll be more by the time this goes out it had a 260 million dollar budget which means it's made its money back if you count marketing and etc and so forth what do you think the story was it's The Lion King have you seen, which means it's made its money back if you count marketing and et cetera and so forth.

What do you think the story was? It's The Lion King. Have you seen The Lion King? It's The Lion King. Everybody's seen it. I've seen The Lion King. You hadn't seen it, but now even you have seen it. Now even I've seen The Lion King, so everyone's seen The Lion King.

This is exactly the same as The Lion King. The previous one, nobody can make an expression? Yeah, I was looking for better or worse, but that'll do. Oh, it's about the same. It's better in some small aspects and it's worse in other aspects. So again, it is literally the same. I thought of the perfect metaphor for this. Yes.

And here's something for free that I didn't say. Oh, here we go. Here we go. This movie is the equivalent. Some original content for our podcast. Ready. I'm excited, yes? This movie is the equivalent if you saw the Beatles perform in the 60s.

Yes. And then in the year 2019, you went to one of those Live Aid charity benefit concerts and 75 year old Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr got up and just did a couple songs that they used to play with some fill in members that's what this feels like. I don't think it is even that because there's echoes of it

and you remember it and you're like I like this I think this movie I think this movie is more like if you watched the Beatles in the 60s and you really enjoyed it. You went to hell? Yeah, you went to hell. But then a Beatles tribute act cropped up in the 60s after the Beatles stopped touring. And then, like last year, you saw that Beatles tribute act.

That's what this movie is. Wow. A scathing endorsement. It's what this movie is. Wow. Yeah. A scathing endorsement. That's quite a scathing endorsement. I'm with you though because there's some stuff in here that I do like. For one, it looks...

I've never seen anything that looks like this. Yeah. So this is no combination... This isn't a combination of... There's nothing real about this movie, right? No. Apparently there's like one shot that is

and I have no idea what it is. Oh, if I can provide a mini... We'll get to that. Can I provide a mini review? I just thought of this. Oh, yeah. Here's my mini review. I got up quite early this morning

to see the first session of this at the movies. Then I went straight to work from that. And about half an hour in to work, I'm like, I'm a little bit tired, and I'm not really sure why. Why is that? And I went through the checklist. I'm like, did I go to bed at a reasonable hour?

Yes, I did. Did I have some water? Yes, I did. Got some caffeine? I've had a little something to eat? Yes, I did. Did I have some water? Yes, I did. Got some caffeine. I've had a little something to eat. Yes, I did. And I just went through my brain like two minutes. And then eventually I figured it out.

It's because I'd just gotten up early and watched a movie, which I'd forgotten. Like the movie just washed over me and then I forgot it existed. Immediately. Immediately. Like it's just, it was like watching an ad you've seen too many times. I just didn't take it in. Yeah, right. That's what this movie felt like to me. Wow. But you were saying, it's just, it was like watching an ad you've seen too many times. I just didn't take it in. Yeah, right. That's what this movie felt like to me.

Wow. But you were saying, it looks great. It really does. There's no denying that. There's no denying. Photo realistic animals and settings. Yeah. The rocks, the grass.

If you showed me footage of this outside of context and, like, you took the soundtrack away, had I not known, you could probably convince me and others that this is just footage of like a documentary if this came out 20 years ago or if you took it to somebody from 20 years ago you just assumed that they trained animals to do this yeah right because it looks that it looks that good the issue there though with this is because it is so realistic and the character models are like for all the animals yeah they're meant to be 100% accurate to real animals or as close as you can possibly get. And that's even in their movement, not just their faces, it's the way that they move. But that means that they are limited to what a real animal can do.

So there's no bugging out of eyes, there's no big grins, there's no flailing of limbs. There's no like an eyebrow goes up. There's no DreamWorks face. Yeah. And I think that is. I've seen like people have changed it to be like, what if they did it? What if they made it like.

And that's bad too. Yeah. Right. I think there is, there's so much merit in doing it this way, but I just don't think it applies. It works. No. For this story. This technology applied to something else.

This technology. and the artistry behind it and even because the way john favreau shot it like he'd shoot it on a virtual stage with like real cameras yeah that's why you get the realistic camera sweeping movements and things like that and the lighting's incredible yeah this technology applied to maybe you get some humans and they go to africa and you want them to interact with non-speaking animals and and have an adventure with the animals that could totally work but the problem with this is is because you can't because they can't emote properly in a way that a human would yeah that throws everything out i think i think it changes characters as well like mufasa for example

there's no life and i said this all in primates but i'm just gonna whatever i remember i'm just gonna say again good listen to that episode but he doesn't emote there's no fun in him there's no life and I said this all in primates but I'm just going to whatever I remember I'm just going to say again listen to that episode but he doesn't emote there's no fun in him there's no joy in him you know what he's giving Simba the lesson about I was only brave

because I'm a bloody because I have to be and I was scared that I was going to lose you he's just stoically looking off but they're like they're like buddies

they're rolling around together and they're tussling and there is a bit of that but you don't get the feeling that they even like it or he likes his son. Yeah, because that's the thing. Like, while I was watching this movie, the feeling I got, and it's not for every character, but it's for most of them,

it felt like there was like a slow gas leak in the recording booth when they were doing the audio because everybody's very kind of subdued. Matter of fact. Some of them sound quite confused. Do you think it's because a lot of them aren't voice actors? No, I don't think that's even it because I think a lot of the people in this have done voice acting before. I mean, James Earl Jones has the exact same role.

But that's like 25 years ago. But I think what it is is they said, okay, you need to dial this back because if you are too emotive, the distance between what you are saying and how the characters look is going to be too jarring so i think they were like dial it back to a four so when the the animals just move their mouths just a tiny little bit it's going to look realistic but if you're like well hey and you're really giving it a 10 the animals are still going to be giving it a four yeah it's going to look bizarre i I think probably the best example is Billy Eichner and Seth Rogen are Timon and Pumbaa.

Yeah. And I think their performances for me are probably the best because they got a chance to kind of improv. And riff and change stuff. Or at the very least. They did. No, you're right. Okay, yeah, the script was written that way.

But like on the one hand, you've got Seth Rogen, who as is pumba is kind of like laconic and kind of laid back a little bit and i think that really works i don't know if it really worked but it seems to work better yeah because he's kind of a lazy character and the voice acting is kind of lazy but then you've got timone who is really kind of the voice acting is is quite camp and, you know, quite loud. And he's quite hectic. And theatrical. But the motion of the face, there's not enough in it. But you can have him scurry around and emote in his body language, I guess.

Yeah. Yeah. Because I found even like when Simba's dad died and Scar's talking to him and he's like, you blew it, Simba, whatever. Simba, there's nothing on his face. Like in the like, you blew it, Simba, whatever. There's nothing on his face. Like in the cartoon, you see it and you feel it. But the moments that resonated with me were moments that I'm like,

because I remembered it from the previous movie. Exactly. That's who this movie's for. And that's the thing. It's amazing the squandered amount of talent, the sheer amount of talent in this movie that has been squandered. Like we got Donald Glover, you got Beyonce. I think he's better than Matthew Broderick.

But is he good? Yeah, sure. But is he good? I don't know. But that's the thing. If you love- I didn't think Beyonce was particularly good. I didn't think so either.

I didn't think John Oliver was very good. That's what I'm talking about. That's the thing. Take any of these characters. If you go, oh my God, I love Donald Glover. I love his acting. I love his comedy. I love his music.

I love his writing and his directing or whatever. What does he bring to this? Nothing. Because all he's doing is he's just reading the lines from the previous movie verbatim. And he gets, you know, he with beyonce he does the song what's up can you feel the love tonight during the day yes but like if you want if you want to spend 20 to see that you can i'm not going to stop you but what you could also do is just listen to it for free on spotify and then just watch a video of lions frolicking because that's the that's the

thing because again because they don't emote enough yeah they're just walking past a stream or whatever yeah and the the song is going and they're just slightly moving their lips yeah just a little bit the the well they're not even singing in that moment yeah they're thinking it so i don't know if you noticed that oh it's a but they're not actually they're thinking it they're thinking the song together in unison oh i see which is what the old one did. Yeah, I don't, I can't, I'm not going to fight you on any of that. No.

Yeah. But you can, again, you can apply that to any of the characters. Yes. Like Beyonce. What does Beyonce bring to this besides... Can we just do spoilers? Yeah, I mean, it's the liking, yeah. What does she bring besides legions of Beyonce fans who are going to see it because Beyonce's in it? Yeah.

Nothing. Same with John Oliver. Like, he doesn't even get it. It's just lines from the previous. Yeah. From a previous movie. The things that I did enjoy about this is when they went off script from the one, from the original one, but not to the, sometimes they'd say a line and they get to a point

and then they'd like change the last word and it would just throw me because I know that movie so well. And I'm just like, what? Were you upset? No, it just, cause I'm in a rhythm of it. And then other times there were bits where they branched off completely and I'm just like, what? Were you upset? No, it just, because I'm in a rhythm of it and then other times there were bits where they branched off completely and I really liked it. Like the bit where they do the lion

sleeps tonight and all the animals join in and they're walking in chorus in unison and they're singing. That's a new moment. Nala escaping from Pride Rock or whatever. It's a new moment. It's not in the other movie. She just kind of turns up. I think those things are good and I said this on Primates. Listen to it. But maybe this

technology and uh would have been better applied to making this a sequel as a to the original as opposed to how would that make a difference well because you could take it new directions of course i think you'd still have all those problems you talked about with the emoting and whatever yeah right but maybe that would solve some of the narrative the fact that it's just not as good retelling. And that's the thing. And it's interesting for me because, again, we just got Aladdin. I think we will get a sequel to this, by the way. Okay, terrific.

We just got Aladdin, which is, you know, on the face of it, kind of similar. It's just a remake of a previous thing. But at least there was kind of room for more play in that. You know, we've got, at the very least, you know, we had the two leads who were very charming and you've got Will Smith, Will Smithing it up, like it's not Robin Williams,

but he gets the chance to woo, exactly. But in this, you don't have two charming leads. You have generic lion faces. You know what I'm talking about? I loved the musculature on them. That was good musculature. Again, they've done a very good job of replicating real animals in visual effects. But which line was who?

Yeah, well, I wondered about that. Especially with the female ones because they're the oldest. I wondered about that because you, did you take your kid to this one? I did, yeah. Could he tell the difference between most of the characters? Yeah, I guess, yeah, because he knows it. I guess that's true. But yeah, I mean, again.

He didn't panic. Yeah, exactly. But again, like if it it's you can't really see them emoting a lot of the time you i'd see you know the two cubs arrive on screen and have to wait till one of them talk before i could figure out who was who yeah or again there's a moment with nala and the rest of the female lions and again nala comes on screen and i'm like okay which one is it and then she talks and i'm like oh okay i get it now yeah exactly you're not wrong yeah yeah i thought the the monkey was weird i don't know there was something okay and again i talked he doesn't have a big red butt anymore no well he's not because he's a mixture of primates and he's not in heat he's not in heat well that's true

but i thought okay they didn't because they're going for realism here and a good example of that is when simba is pinned on the end of the rock by scar and uh in the old one when he finds out that the scar killed his father he just leaps up yes he kind of snaps and leaps but in this one he bites scar on the face yeah and he's dragged and i'm like that's well he's a real lion so he'd have to yeah right but rafiki is he doesn't have his stick and i'm like well he doesn't have his stick because he's not really a magic mandrill or whatever he is. Mandrake. He's not a mandrake.

He's not Mandrake the Magician from the Defenders of the Earth. With his rattly stick. Did he put it in? I don't know. I don't know because I'm not there. Will I put it in later? Maybe you will. Maybe you won't.

Will I put it in multiple times? Oh, my God. And then there's a moment where he gets his stick, right? Because I'm like, oh, he doesn't have his stick. Fine. So he pulls out his stick from his tree and he's like, oh, hello, old friend. But that stick is just for hitting things. It's his beating stick.

It's his beating stick. Because he doesn't know Kung Fu like the other one. I don't expect him to. But that's a stick that he has previously used to fight with. Because the only relevance of that stick is, as an audience member, is I know that stick from the previous movie. Because if you hadn't seen it, you'd be like, hello, old friend. And you'd be like, so he just, he has a stick that he is very fond of and he likes it because he uses it to crush the skulls of his enemies. Yes, exactly.

Okay. Yeah, that's relatable. You know? Sure. Yes, exactly. Okay. Yeah, that's relatable. You know? Sure. You get it. Anyway, I didn't think it was a very good movie. Oh, not Idris Elba. Chiwetel Ejiofor?

Chiwetel Ejiofor was really good, yeah. Yeah. I thought it was good. But again, and they went away from the camp scar kind of villain, which I guess you have to do in 2019 because that's a Disney trope. We talked about this in the other one. Yeah, right. And Be Prepared was not good, was it?

Which one's that again? The one where he's like... Oh, I'm the king of the... Yeah, no, that was bad. There was lava. Yeah, but there was no lava. No. Yeah, real bad.

Well, it's the same with like I Just Can't Wait to Be King because it snaps into this technicolour world with African patterns. Yeah, right. But here it's just like running next to a pond or whatever. Exactly. And again, it looks incredible. I remember seeing that mouse at the start and it's climbing on the grass stalk and it's waving in the wind and skimming across the water.

And I'm looking at it and I'm like, my brain cannot tell that this is a... As a tech demo, this is amazing. Like if somebody on the internet was like, I've been messing around with visual effects and here's the introduction to The Lion King, except it's in full CG, you'd be like, that's incredible. But they haven't done anything with it. Imagine if you went, imagine if Jon Favreau,

and again, it's Jon Favreau as well, who I like. He's a good director. Imagine if Jon Favreau went, hey, I've got an idea for a script and it's going to have a movie and it's going to have Donald Glover and Beyonce and John Oliver and Eric Andre and King Michael Key and bloody Chiwetel Ejiofor and Seth Rogen and Billy Eichner and it's just all these people hanging out and having an adventure and Disney would be like, nah, nah.

Can you make it a sequel or a remake Or a CGI extravaganza Oh okay cool We'll do the Lion King then He went to them Because I watched the Vanity Fair breaking down a scene And he talks about the opening scene And a lot of thought has gone into it And again it looks spectacular

We wanted to make it look as much as the original as possible And we did But real And he talks about um like the how lighting plays a big role in it and how backlighting animals make them realistic because your brain accepts it more and and that that is all true because it all it all looks realistic he's obviously thought about it because he talks about how when i did the jungle book i wrote down like the things that i remembered from it because like because it's you're gonna hit the key elements and

it was like six things uh-huh i assume like the snake and the song and the orangutan or whatever. I don't know. It's not a good movie. And people don't care if you change the Jungle Book. I think same with like Cinderella. I think Cinderella is a really good remake. But with this, he's like, I went back and I thought about what I remembered. And the list was like pages long.

Yeah. So you end up mostly replicating it yeah and changing not enough to make it different and the things you do change it's something it's often weird yeah yeah i thought this was depressing like this the colors the no just the concept of it yeah you know what the the movie that came to mind as i was watching this movie i thought of it more than once and this isn't anything to do with the movie itself but But have we ever talked about the movie Cube on this show? I've never seen it. I know it.

Okay, so for anybody who hasn't seen it, there's a group of people wake up. It's a science fiction horror movie. This group of people wake up in this sort of deadly maze inside this big cube-like structure, and they have to get out. Like a cube. Yeah, like a cube. And they have to find their way out before they all die. And basically, one of the plot threads in this movie is, why there this cube why are they all trapped in the cube and it's not because there's some

crazed super villain or there's like aliens have abducted them and they're wanting experimenting on or whatever it's just that bureaucracy somewhere had a budget and they just made the cube and then they just had the cube so they just did stuff with the cube and that's what this movie right like that's every every watching this movie i just kept thinking of that because what this is is somebody thought of this idea and they went well we're remaking all of them we may as well remake this one yeah we're gonna put like it's it's just a lot this this whole movie even though it's like the most mind-bending visual effects and these a-list cast and all this marketing yeah maybe ever it's just a line in like their balance sheet yeah it's just like if we put

in 250 million dollars we'll get a billion dollars back so we'll just make it yeah that's i don't and that's and i understand that's all movies but at least again at least with aladdin they could tweak it a little bit at least with you know if you'd have told me I would have liked Aladdin more than this. Yeah, right. By a lot. Yes, right. I would have told you. I would have taken my old stick that I hit people with.

I would have brought it out of retirement. Hello, old friend, I'd say. Oh, no. And I would be crushing skulls. But I don't know. Is this the future of this movie? Are they all going to be like this? I think they're going to.

I think this will be a lesson. Yeah. I think it's still going to do well. Well, that's the thing. Maybe it's not going to be a lesson. I think they're going to, I think this will be a lesson. I think it's still going to do well. Well, that's the thing. Maybe it's not going to be a lesson. If it makes a billion dollars. I think this only gets you so far. I think you need to.

And you know what? You do the Lion King. There's not a lot of other ones you can update and people will get upset. Oh, I see. Right. I think Mulan looks different enough. And I think Mulan could be better or at least on par. But at least people can emote in Mulan looks different enough, and I think Mulan could be better, or at least on par. But at least people can emote in Mulan.

Yeah, exactly. That's what I'm saying. I guess for the most part, all the rest of the remakes are humans. Yeah. I mean, Little Mermaid. You've got Bambi. You could do Brother Bear, I guess. Yeah, I guess that's true.

But no one wants a Brother Bear remake. Yeah, right. But yeah. It's the Lion King, but a man turns into a bear. At least Mulan and the Little Mermaid can emote, you know? Oh, yeah, Little Mermaid, yeah. Yeah. bear yeah right but yeah like it's the lion king but a man turns into a bear at least mulan and the little mermaid could emote you know oh yeah a little mermaid yeah yeah i'm not a really fan i think you know what i think could be really good i think uh treasure planet could be incredible yeah right do you think they'll get that far no because the treasure planet bombed all right

and there's that lantis movie with michael j fox which is a similar kind of aesthetic which maybe could work it But I don't know. I think we're going to be getting sequels, though. I think they'll do Aladdin 2. I think they'll do Lion King 2. Wow. Yeah. Simba's Pride.

Do you think it'll be Simba's Pride or do you think it'll be something else? I think they'll change the narrative. Okay, right. Gotcha. But wouldn't you like to see a world where Simba's daughter rules or whatever they make it? No.

But she can smile. Oh, yeah. Because, you know, you should smile more, Mason. Oh, no. It's the worst movie ever. Yeah, it's the worst movie ever. Don't say it, I would say. Do you think, like little kids,

if there's a parent out there with little kids, would you get them to watch the original or the... Original, definitely. It's shorter by half an hour. Where did the extra half an hour come from? That's a good question, mate. It's astounding.

They cut out a song and they put in a song, so what happened? I didn't mind the jungle stuff, like the fun they were having in the jungle because that was the most different, I feel.

Was anyone having fun in the jungle? Yeah, because it's a nice place and they're eating grubs and whatever. Oh, yeah, okay, yeah. And they're talking about the circle of life and it's like more of a lion.

I'm like, it is a fucking lion. You know what I mean? I do know what you mean, yeah. It's great in the circle of life if you're the lion. But if you're anything else. It's always been that. Maybe that's another thing that I disliked about it. It's like, well, don't we eat the antelope?

Yeah, but when we die of natural causes in a couple of decades, we turn into grass and they eat the grass. It's not the same. We're literally killing their family members. It's not a circle. And then they turn up when a new one of us is born. Yeah. And bail.

Yeah, that's right. I'm with you, man. This lion society, it's... It's no good is all I'm saying. Someone's got to bring it down from the inside. Yeah. Maybe a poacher, but with a line the lion skin vest craven the hunter okay yeah i would watch that i would watch i would watch lion king 2 simba's pride slash craven the hunter 100 yeah it's a good movie i think no disagree it's a shame

i don't know what but i don't have the answers to make it better yeah see that's the other thing like i'm not like well if you had done it this way i would have i don't i don't know what but I don't have the answers to make it better yeah see that's the thing I'm not like well if you had done it this way I would have I don't know because if you tweak the character models to make them more expressive

I think you have to tweak the entire world as well yes you have to tweak everything like the landscape and the sky and the trees

and the ground to make them slightly more cartoonish so they don't look like monsters. Yeah. Because if it was a regular world and you make their faces expressive, they're just horrible. They're lion creature monsters.

So you have to tweak the whole world and that throws everything out, I think. And that's what it is in the cartoon because they all don't emote. Like the gazelle and the wildebeest don't have those faces. But because it's animated, you don't think about it.

That's true. You're not like, why can't that wildebeest smile? Yeah. She but because it's animated you don't think about it that's true why can't that wildebeest smile yeah but then if you've got to be much prettier if she smiled exactly absolutely you're absolutely right that's true yeah i don't know man what a world what a world which one's next mermaid uh no um well there's that there's lady in the tramp on disney plus okay right i don't think they're going to be doing that one, are we? Is that a Black Widow Hawkeye situation, though? In terms of like... I don't know, just team them up, have them fight crime or whatever?

I think it's just the movie Lady and the Tramp. I don't want that. Have you seen it? Spaghetti and a Meatballs. I've seen the Spaghetti and a Meatballs. Spaghetti and a Meatballs, mate. Yeah, I've seen Spaghetti and a Meatballs, yeah. Okay.

You know what it's time for? It just feels like Lady and the Tramp nowadays Would be like a Falcon Winter Soldier Kind of team up you know It's Tessa Thompson and Justin Theroux As Lady slash Tramp There you go Good for them Doesn't mean anything though does it?

It absolutely doesn't Especially after this bloody disaster Who cares? I don't care if they both went to Juilliard Did they both go to Juilliard? I don't know Right in yes or no Weird Be a weird coincidence if they both go to Juilliard? I don't know. Write in. Yes or no. Weird.

Be a weird coincidence if they both did. Yeah, but yes or no. Especially if writer Justin Theroux went to Juilliard. Yes or no. Yes or no.

For both of them. Yeah. Two yeses, two noes. A yes and a no one or no and a yes. Thank you. Yes. Yeah.

You know what it's time for? Oh, what we read and what we're going to read? Yeah. Yeah, nice. I'm doing a thing. You know what it's time for? Oh, what we read and what we're going to read?

Yeah. Yeah, nice. I'm doing a thing. What are we reading today? I've got two things that I haven't done yet, but I will be doing. I'm ready. The boys will be well and truly out by the time this is. Oh, okay.

Cool, cool, cool. Are they dropping the whole season or are they doing week to week? No idea. Can't remember. Anyway, super excited for that. Same, yeah. Really keen. I hope it's great. Yes. Do you hope it's great? I also hope it's great. Can't remember. Anyway, super excited for that. Same, yeah. Really keen. I hope it's great.

Yes. Do you hope it's great? I also hope it's great. Both of us hope it's great. Yeah. And we just, we love content. We love putting it out there. We love making things happen. We're movers.

We're shakers. What is happening? Is your stroke coming back? I don't have anything to say because I haven't seen it. I also downloaded Curse of the White Knight, which is a sequel to Batman White Knight, where the Joker turns good. He's like, Batman sucks, and I'm going to fix Gotham. And that comic's good.

So I'm looking forward to reading the follow-up. What about you, Mason? Can you tell us anything about the follow-up without spoiling the original? I haven't started it at all. Yeah, sure. It follows on. Whoa.

Imagine a direct sequel. Well, thanks for the spoiler. Yeah, well, you know. Yeah. Imagine a direct sequel. Well, thanks for the spoiler. Yeah, well, you know. Yeah. I watched A Simple Favour, which is the most recent Paul Feig movie. What do you think of that? I like it. It kind of goes a bit off chops at the end.

I think the, because it's sort of meant to be, I guess, a throwback to sort of 1950s, 1960s kind of film noir mystery kind of, you know. And what great outfits. Exactly. Like you're strangers on a train kind of like intrigue kind of situation and i think the plot is maybe a is it too smart for its own good or is it kind of like or is it or is it not as well thought through as it could have been i think maybe it's both most yeah but it's certainly stylish and fun and it's anna kendrick and blake lively that's right we They're both really good. Yeah, it was a good bloody movie.

I'd say worth a watch. What would you give it out of €150,000? €120,000. Wow. That's good. Yeah, it's good, right? You got some change there. Yeah, that's right.

Get yourself an Audi maybe. Maybe I'll buy an Audi with it. One of the low-end ones. Yeah, low-end Audi. Or a Fiat. Yeah. Oh, yes. Oh.

Maybe a Fiat Punto. Really? Maybe. It's bold. I respect it. Thank you. Letters Fiat Punto. Really? Maybe. It's bold. I respect it. Thank you. Letters? Yeah, let's do some letters.

The classic one was letters, oh letters. We love you, some letters. They're only a day away. Get out of here right now. We're going to have big letters. Ha. You have the wild eyes of a man who's recording a podcast at 12.45 in the evening. Yes.

And I have to get this edited and the Caravan of Garbage and get them sent in before I leave. It's a lot of work. Yeah. It is, basically. It is. It's more time consuming

because it's the listening through. That's true, yeah. And the Caravan of Garbage, I edit twice. I mean, Ben does the actual video edit. He does an excellent job. But you listen to it and I do the extended cut. And I chip just a little bit out of it. And then I take like maybe eight minutes out of it.

You take the swears out. And then the second edit, you put more swears in. More swears in, yeah. More rudder swears. I bring you back in studio. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Yep.

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That's pretty impressive. That's not bad at all. All in all, turned out to be a good time. Would recommend. So we should do it? Listening to our own podcast? That sounds like the kind of thing I would do. I think it would break my mind.

Yeah. Only do psychedelics in a safe environment. Okay. That's true. Well, this podcast environment's very safe. That's right. We've right these padded walls and all the walls so maybe yeah any chance i can be official druid of the podcast absolutely you may do you have a big beard and a staff and a pointed hat if you have all those then yes you can but yes if he doesn't he still can yeah that's true yeah i mean unless somebody else wants to do it and has those things. Oh, then they're the drool. Yeah, that's true.

That's true. Yeah. Well, people listen in all times for all reasons in all states of mind, don't they? If this makes it on the show, tell my mate Chris and Toby hi. I won't. Yeah. Tell them yourself. Yeah, you know them.

We don't know them. We don't know them. We don't know them. It's from Mitch on Twitter. Hashtag Weekly Planet Pod. As Jane Foster is coming back for Thor 4. He put Thor, but the O was a 4. Nice.

I don't even know how you say that. Do you think we'll see her ex Donald Blake finally show up? I think Taika Waititi could do some funny stuff with him. Good question, isn't it? Yes. Exists in universe. For anybody who doesn't know, in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, Thor is just Thor. Yes.

And in the comic books currently, Thor is just Thor. Yes. But in his original appearance, he was a doctor named Donald Blake. He was Thor, and then his father Odin trapped him in the body of a man called Donald Blake, who had like a bung leg, and then he found Mjolnir. Yes. And then he became Thor. But then it turns out that Donald Blake was also always Thor.

But then they just got rid of Donald Blake. Is that how it works? Oh, it's so cool. Okay, so basically, in the original comic books, there's just a guy called Donald Blake. He finds a stick. He bangs the stick and becomes Thor. Frustrated. Frustrated.

And then he can switch back between Thor and himself. And he's always like, I'm Donald Blake, but now I'm Thor. Isn thor isn't this crazy kind of thing and then over the years he started becoming more and more thor yeah and then he discovers that actually he was always thor but he's but odin sent him back to earth in the body of donald blake so that he would learn humility but then and then he always became thor but then it turned out that donald bl a real dude who had been trapped in a cave for like 10 years because Odin swapped him out. That's a terrible thing. I know.

I mean, that probably won't happen in this. You should send Odin to Earth. Yeah, right? He should be learning lessons. For being a rude dude. Trapping people in caves. I know. But anyway, in the movie.

What did Donald Blake do? A man with a limp. Well, he got that limp. That's embarrassing, isn't it? Yeah, but like trap him in a cave. Yeah. What did Donald Blake do? A man with a limp. Well, he got that limp. That's embarrassing, isn't it? Yeah, but like trap him in a cave. Yeah. What did he eat? Bats?

Oh, he was like in suspended animation. Oh, it's one of those situations. And he ate bats. But anyway, in the movies, there's just a sly reference to that because Natalie Portman's ex-boyfriend is Donald Blake. Here's what I think they should do. And they use that alias for Thor, don't they? Yes, they do.

Yeah. I think they should just get Chris Hemsworth as Donald Blake as well. I think that'd be funny. Oh. Don't you think people would... I mean, it'd be weird. Or do you CGI him slightly differently? I don't know.

Or prosthetics or something? Or they could get the guy who is the... If you watch The Good Place, the guy who's the fake Hemsworth brother, they should get him. Oh, yeah. I think that'd be funny. That would be funny. That would be good.

Because I guess it would be weird if natal uh if jane foster's boyfriend looked exactly like thor nobody ever mentioned it that would be weird i guess that would be weird yeah um who else could you get as donald blake well i thought they were going to do the chris o'dowd character from thought yeah right i think it would have been a good donald blake yes exactly i think it'd be oh then you get richard ayawade is'd be excellent. Is he in any Marvel movies? I don't think he is. He might be a voice and we don't know. Oh, let's have him as Donald Blake.

Yeah. That'd be really good. He's very funny. Yeah. You know what? Just get the entire cast of Darth Marenghi's Darth Vader. Swapping out as Donald Blake. They could just keep wearing the lab coats.

That's great. Perfect. And no one would notice. That's true. Yeah. Yeah. Anybody go. Hashtag weekly planet pod.

Do you think the next phase, Marvel phase... We're going to get Marvel questions forever now. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. There you bloody go. Hashtag weekly planet pod. Do you think the next phase, Marvel phase, we're going to get Marvel questions forever now. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Obviously. Will be as successful slash more successful as each phase before. I think this one has the advantage of coming off the back of the biggest movie of all time. Yes. And the biggest franchise of all time.

Yeah. So I think initial success is guaranteed, obviously. But what do you think going from there? I think that we should not set our sights too high. I think there's going to be some people, some big fans of the MCU who are going to be like, we're going to build up to the next Endgame, like maybe at the end of Phase 5 or what have you,

there's going to be the next Endgame-style movie. I think longer. And it's going to be what have you there's going to be the next Endgame style movie I think longer and it's going to be the best it's going to be the biggest it's going to be bigger than Endgame don't yeah don't bet on that

I don't you will that is stressful it will be just as somebody who buys a ticket to each of these movies that's too much that's too much pressure

but I think if they are doing a big universe vending event or whatever it will take another from 10, 11 years but i'm just saying it we probably won't even know what it is no that's true for a few for a couple of phases i'm sure there'll be hints of it well a lot of people is it galactus yeah like i don't a lot of people have you know based on the movies that we've got out in the in that slate that was

released last week some people are predicting annihilation just because there's so many cosmic events in there that makes sense and you know uh so annihilus yes yes and then you can integrate the fantastic four and you can bring it galactus and blah blah blah that makes sense yeah pretty cool so more cosmicky the last one was very cosmicky right can't we just have everyone running each other at airport again i think maybe in the next one it should just be the the biggest bank heist. The next 20 movies are just building up to a big bank heist. How do you top it? I think the only way you can top it is,

I think you can do a big event, but you just have to wait. I think you just have to go, you know what, we're not going to have the biggest movie of all time for at least 10 years because we're not going to aim for it. We're going to build slowly back up to it. And then, because James Cameron's going to release those Avatar sequels, we'll not going to aim for it we're going to build slowly back up to it and then because James Cameron is going to release those Avatar sequels

we'll have something to aspire to because that's going to break the record again you know what I mean yeah definitely it's just going to smash through that end game

I mean we laugh we jest we joke we jive it's possible is it well if it's released with some kind of

it's released a good time of year like it'll have a clear run at Christmas. It brings in a new form of 3D technology again, which I think it is doing, which you pay more to see, and it stays in cinemas for like five months. Then, yeah, it's possible. Sure.

And James Cameron just buys all the tickets himself. Yes, absolutely. But I don't think it will, but I'm saying it's not impossible. What do you think the absolute maximum limit is of a movie, like just a Hollywood movie, like overall box office? What's the biggest of all time is Endgame now. So what is that? How many billion?

Is that like $3 billion? It's a bit under three, yeah. Okay, right. What do you think the effective maximum of the world is? I guess it depends on population and ticket prices, doesn't it? That's true, it does, yeah. There's only so many. We calculate let's let's knock this out oh mason i don't have enough no i don't know i'm gonna take my shoes off yeah with dice i can do this yeah i don't know i guess i mean it's always just gonna keep going up isn't it that's true i guess there is no roof on it

unless we're all murdered in like a nuclear destruction or you know the earthquakes to kill us all and the environment stuff. You know what I mean? I do know exactly what you mean. A 2012 situation. Oh, wow. So you're saying if they release 2012 again into theatres, it's going to crack that $5 billion mark. That movie should die in a ditch.

Brutal. What do you think of that? That's pretty good. That's good. Here's an email from Sam Thomas. Okay, Sam. What have you got, Sam? This is from a couple of weeks ago, actually,

but I only just remembered it now. It says, Re Dexter Fletcher. Can confirm I saw Dexter Fletcher in the street and he had a plastic bag in his hand. Whether or not he plans to reuse it, I couldn't tell. Wow. Cheers, Sam.

That's interesting. It's interesting, right? Because if listeners remember, I saw Dexter Fletcher at a market about 10 years ago. Yeah. Maybe 11. And you couldn't remember if he had a regular bag or a reusable bag. Yeah.

Well, turns out. Turns out. I mean, sometimes if he had a regular bag or a reusable bag. Yeah. Yeah. Well, turns out. Turns out. I mean, sometimes I'll have a reusable bag or a plastic bag, though. I'm not always using the reusable. Sometimes I forget, you know?

Yeah, for sure. Yeah, yeah. So if someone else, that's good information. It's good information, yeah. If people could keep us posted. We need to triangulate the Dexter Fletcher

bag situation. I think we need a few, I think we need a few data points. We need someone to put together this spreadsheet, too. Exactly, yeah, yeah.

And then we can determine for good or ill what his system is going with. Because if we get 100 Dexter Fletcher sightings and it's 99 reusable bag, one plastic bag. It's okay. That's good stuff. But then again, if it's 100 plastic bags, but if it's the same bag. Same one, yeah. You should also maybe check the logo on the plastic bag. What is it? Make sure if it's the same same one yeah you should also

maybe check the logo on the plastic bag what is it make sure if it's the same one every time yeah but again

that doesn't prove anything because maybe he gets a new plastic bag from the same supermarket every time he goes there yeah so I think maybe if you see him on the street

anytime you see him with a plastic bag maybe you cost him on the street and say Dexter Fletcher where'd you get that or maybe like check it for like holes and stuff I think by a look you could tell With a plastic bag, maybe a costume on the street and say Dexter Fletcher. Where'd you get that? Where'd you get that? Or maybe like check it for like holes and stuff.

I think by a look you could tell whether it was an old one or not. I think so too. The crinkled nature. Yeah, the crinkled nature. Does he put it in his pocket? Yeah, exactly. If you work at his local supermarket or you could perhaps get a job there as a cashier. Yes, yes, yes, yes, absolutely. Obviously build your schedule around his when he shops.

Yes, exactly. And then kind of go from there. Yeah yeah that'd be actually really good yeah i'm not joking i want to know or break into his house and see if he's got like a like you know that drawer of plastic bags you know everyone's got full drawer plastic bags yeah uh-huh oh they're bloody hen's teeth now they're those bags in australia though mate that's right they're getting rid of all yeah been short of this week mason but that's the show. Oh, that's the show. Is that okay with you? It's okay with me, yeah. Okay, then.

Do you want to take us home, Country Road? Thank you, everybody, for listening and subscribing and telling a friend, giving us a nice review, going on our insane Dexter Fletcher hunting parties. That's absolutely terrific. We really do appreciate it. We do. We've got a review right here on iTunes,

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Claire won't get mad. She'll get even. She'll get... She is actually very accommodating. She'll dump the bins on you while you're asleep. She's very accommodating. She's like... You'll be in like, you've got to love your plate. You'll be in bed and you'll be like, and you'll put your hand on the bed and she won't be there.

And you'll be like, oh, and you'll look up and she'll have a bin over you. She'll dump the bin on you. You're going to say, oh, this is a pile of rubbish. Oh, yeah, maybe. That she's just poured. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's tied it together with ropes. Yeah.

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