The Weekly Planet - 296 The Boys & Hobbs And Shaw

Episode Date: August 5, 2019

Join the 10 million who have tried Harry’s. Claim your special offer by going to HARRYS.COM/WEEKLYPLANET.Well well well well. It’s both Hobbs and Shaw week and The Boys week. Two great tastes that... taste great together. Also a new director for Venom 2, Darkseid in The New Gods movie, details on the Snyder cut and Ben Affleck's Batman movie, trailers for both Tenet and The Irishman, transgender casting in the MCU and Deadpool slated as a Phase 4 movie. Thanks for listening.Southern Belles: https://t.co/2Avmzzp40R?amp=1Donate Here Please: https://www.theintrepidfoundation.org/planetbroadcastingfundraiserSuggestibles Podcast: https://aca.st/cf053a0:00 The Start3:15 Andy Serkis directing Venom 25:55 Darkseid in The Furies in New Gods9:20 Ben Affleck’s Batman movie details11:32 The Irishman trailer17:21 Tenet trailer21:47 Trans role being cast in the MCU25:08 Deadpool Phase 430:05 The Boys (spoilers 41:55 - 57:38)57:38 Hobbs & Shaw (spoilers 1:15:11 - 1:21:14)1:21:14 What We Reading/What We Gonna Read1:26:39 Letters It’s Time For LettersThe Weekly Planet YouTube Channel: https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHJames' Twitter â–º http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter â–º http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon â–º https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP Itunes â–º https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 TWP Direct Download â–º https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanet TWP YouTube Channel â–º https://goo.gl/1ZQFGH Buy Fast Furious Movies on Amazon â–º https://amzn.to/2oLEmpi T-Shirts/Merch â–º https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:01:12 Where we talk movies and comics and TV shows My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday With me as always is my co-host with the most toast Nick Mace Toast Again, the more we do this I'll get it right one day The more we do these intros the more i wonder if you're having a stroke before we get started and in this one you've introduced the concept of toast yeah which is and the smell of burnt toast is often associated with somebody having a stroke so correct again just checking i feel oftentimes before we do the show i i say okay we should what we should put it
Starting point is 00:01:45 get up a whiteboard and we should do like okay remember to people you know ask if people will like the videos and here's the stuff we say at the end or whatever thank all the everybody exactly i think one of the whiteboards should be like that acronym for if someone's having a stroke like fast or whatever it is yeah and then every wake i can be like james look at it okay firstly follow my finger. Secondly, how are you doing? I feel fine. You're doing good.
Starting point is 00:02:08 I feel pretty good, yeah. I'm wearing a turtleneck. Yeah, you are. It's looking good. In honour of Jason Statham. Ah, so good. The man can wear a turtleneck. You better believe he can.
Starting point is 00:02:15 Also, it's very cold over here. Yeah, it's two things. It's cold in Melbourne. Yeah, you're honouring two things, the weather and Statham. Exactly. Yeah, that's it. I've got some news up top, Mason, and by that I mean Broadway news. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:02:25 People might be interested in this. People in London. Ben from Canada, who edits a bunch of our videos, including the Caravan of Garbage's, most weeks. That's right. He's a single threat.
Starting point is 00:02:33 That's right. He just edits, right? No, Mason. He does many a good thing. He's a very good actor. I see. He's been signed up to... He's just finished his acting school.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Well, he's bloody good at acting like he likes working for you, eh? Aww, Mason, that's not very nice. Give him all the bloody Oscars. Carry on. Yeah, so he's in a play in London. A very well-received play. It's called Southern Bells
Starting point is 00:03:00 and it's playing until August 25th at the Kingshead Theatre. It's highly acclaimed. I've read a bunch of reviews and it's all five stars. This is incredible. If you are in London, which I am not, you should absolutely go and see this. It's linked below. They're not paying me to say this.
Starting point is 00:03:13 Ben said, can you say this? And I said, you can pay me to say it, I said. What was I doing? I'm having that stroke, aren't I? Yes, you are. Finally. Let's just get it out of the way. I wish I could see it because, look, he's an incredible actor
Starting point is 00:03:25 and by all accounts, he's an incredible play. Tickets are very reasonably priced. It's linked below. If you're in London, go and see it. Go and say hi. Not when he's doing the acting. Yeah, exactly. I'm sure he would appreciate your enthusiasm,
Starting point is 00:03:37 but that's going to ruin the play. Unless there's some sort of call and response element to the play. I haven't seen the play. I haven't seen a play in a while. Have they introduced call and response elements to plays at this point? I mean, maybe it's a pantomime. Could be. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:49 If there's a big bad wolf behind him at any point, look, don't interrupt, but if any point a big bad wolf comes on the stage, you're allowed to say, he's behind you. He's behind you. That's right, yeah. He's behind you. But that is the extent of the interactions. Anyway, Mason, we've also got other news because this is about movies and TV shows and comics or whatever it is. Well, apparently it's about plays now.
Starting point is 00:04:09 What is it about plays? Andy Serkis is apparently going to direct Venom 2. There was a number of directors thrown up, but Tom Hardy posted a picture of Andy Serkis, which makes me think that Andy Serkis is directing Venom 2. How do you feel, Mason? That's an interesting thing, isn't it? He's done, he did a lot of second unit stuff
Starting point is 00:04:29 on the Hobbit trilogy. Yeah, okay, right. He also did the Jungle Book, which is great, I feel. I really like that version of the Jungle Book. I know a lot of people don't. Does this give him any kind of creative direction for the movie?
Starting point is 00:04:43 That's a very good question. Just a case of like here's the script do you think because i mean you know he is he is the king of motion capture slash performance capture snoke oh yeah he was also snow he's snoke mason he's snoke i'm aware that he's snow it's true does that mean that this might be a really symbiote symbiote heavy movie like maybe this one moves to the planet of the symbiote yeah and it's all cgi maybe just goose lapping i don't want that i want i don't want that absolutely not it's gonna be carnage don't you remember i forgot about that yeah it was this heavily motion capture
Starting point is 00:05:16 uh movie or what's the deal with it i all right cool so i've asked too many questions no i just i don't know i yeah i'm still very unclear about how most of that movie came to be or what happened in the movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe Andy Serkis just wants to play some sort of sea creatures in a tank in a restaurant. That could very well be it, yeah. That might be it.
Starting point is 00:05:36 This could be very much one of those situations where the first one is garbage and the second one fixes it. And I had an example of that in my mind and now I don't have that anymore. Terminator 3, for example, is a big improvement on terminator 2 absolutely that's probably a good example isn't it yeah for sure yeah but that's that's really interesting and maybe he's been drawn to it because of or maybe they've approached him maybe they really want to map that tom hardy face to the venom face or i don't know or isn't it i don't know i didn't have a problem with the
Starting point is 00:06:01 venom look no no exactly yeah but maybe they're, we're going to bring in some new technology. If anybody can tweak it, you can. Or maybe the people just like that he's a good director with special effects and they're like, you can do this. And apparently very nice. He seems very nice. I've seen a couple of, I think it was Vanity Fair videos or something on YouTube that are like him going through his career and stuff.
Starting point is 00:06:20 I think we've had some people also email in who have met him and he's kind of always like first of all like surprised that he's recognised but he's been in things as well as himself he's claw for one for example but yeah
Starting point is 00:06:31 he just kind of appreciates kind of the you know people recognising his work that's cool anyway I think it's a good choice because I don't care about this movie but I like Andy Serkis
Starting point is 00:06:40 so good on him and I hope he does well me too Ava DuVernay has confirmed that The Furies and Darkseid will be in her New Gods movie circus so good on him and i hope he does well me too ava duvernay has confirmed that the furies and dark side will be in her new gods movie oh yeah what are the furies explain it to me so i don't have to look it up they're the they're the hang on they're the fighting force of the
Starting point is 00:06:57 the female furies they're like apocalypses uh sorry they're they're the they're dark side's elite fighting force i think are they good or for ellips they're forseid's elite fighting force, I think. Are they good or for ill? They're for ill, I believe. Mr. Miracle's wife, Big Barda, is formerly a Fury. Yeah, because she's previously been confirmed, so you'd think it might be a situation in which she's on Earth with Mr. Miracle. Yeah, maybe. And the Furies are back and they're like,
Starting point is 00:07:19 you used to be one of us. And she's like, well, now I'm doing Earth shit. Yeah. Now I'm living in a condo and getting brunch. That's right. Exactly. That's such a good comic. It is.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Also, I'm so glad they didn't use Darkseid in Justice League. Me too. Because now they could use him in this. Yeah. And he might look like just a grey stone. Did they recently release... I mean, he does look like a grey stone. If anyone can look like a big grey stone in a movie, he's allowed to.
Starting point is 00:07:40 He's allowed to do that, I think, yeah. Did they recently release some concept art of him? Yes. It actually looked alright, to be fair. I remember it looking all right also. But do you think it would have improved that movie in any way? No. That good movie that we both like?
Starting point is 00:07:50 And it's a bad movie and no one likes it. No, I don't think it would have, no. Yeah. I think the one wise move they made in that movie is not bringing in the biggest big bad first of all. I do wonder if they... Because then if just Superman just swats it... Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:08:05 What's the point? Which probably would have been what happened happened he throws him back into a portal and he's like i'll be back superman yeah so there you go that's not a cut still happening um is it well kevin smith talked about this week and said it exists but it's not finished so it's a lot of okay you know green screen plates and whatever and people standing in front of a wind machine being like, get the laser, get it focused on the whatever. You know how movies end nowadays. Yeah, for sure. Is that how the Snyder Cut was going to end?
Starting point is 00:08:37 Yeah, probably. The grim and gritty Snyder Cut was just going to be like, fuck, it's the laser. There's too many lasers coming out of the sky. I wonder what would have happened to the DC universe and what the backlash would have been if that exact Snyder Cut
Starting point is 00:08:51 had have come out. Yeah. Because I don't think it would have been good. No. But I just wonder what the landscape of DC film would have looked like
Starting point is 00:08:59 and what the fans would think of it. Because I think it's one of those things where I do want to see it. I can't believe we're still talking about it. But I don't think I'm going to see it and go, oh, my God, this changes everything. No, absolutely not. Because, I mean, look,
Starting point is 00:09:13 I don't even really know any of the details. How much footage, allegedly, is out there, I wonder? Apparently, he's got a cut. Like, we've got a video on it, and at the end of it, like, we... Oh, we talked about it. We talked about it. Well, I forgot. Yeah, but at the end of it, he says, like, someone's filming on the iPhone, and he says, I've got a video on it. And at the end of it, like we talked about it, but also I forgot. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:25 But at the end of it, he says like someone's filming on the iPhone and he says, I've got a cut. It's like at my house. So if someone could perform a Italian job style safe drop, that's a heads up for Italian jobs coming next week. We're doing it this week for Carrying the Garbage, hopefully, you know, but then, yeah, so that's, that's how much we've got A movie with some green screen in it Focus the laser
Starting point is 00:09:46 Sounds awful You got a crystal The crystal needs to be aligned With a laser Where'd this crystal come from? Wasn't there a crystal? Oh it was a box It was a box
Starting point is 00:09:56 Sorry Sorry Wait no We've opened the box There's a crystal in it That's the twist That you didn't know about That's in the Snyder Cut
Starting point is 00:10:03 A box Ridiculous Crystal Perfect Perfect yeah Speaking of DC box there's a crystal in it that's the twist that you didn't know that's in the snyder card a box ridiculous crystal perfect perfect yeah yes uh speaking of dc robert richardson who was a cinematographer and was going to be on ben affleck's the batman movie said they had a script but it wasn't a loved script and there was a lot of work that he had to do to change it uh he was going into more the insanity aspects of it where he he enters more of Arkham and everyone was bad. He goes into where everyone was bad. That's the exact quote. So, insane asylum.
Starting point is 00:10:30 Where everyone was bad. Everyone was bad, including all the staff and the wardens because they're all corrupt and letting each other in and out of prison. Some people in asylums are just misunderstood. They're not all bad. The Scarecrow? No, he's bad. Bane?
Starting point is 00:10:41 No, he's very bad. The Joker? One of the worst. When Batman goes in there and he's like, but I'm not crazy. Just misunderstood. You've got to align the crystal to let me out of my cell. And then Hugo Strange is like,
Starting point is 00:10:52 there will be no aligning of the crystal, Batman, until you reveal your secret identity to me. Yeah. Oh, no, the crystal's been aligned. You know? Yeah, I'm sure I've read multiple comics including ones recently where it's Batman
Starting point is 00:11:07 in a padded cell with a straight jacket on but he's also wearing the bat cow he's wearing the cow yeah so they oh it's booby trapped
Starting point is 00:11:14 isn't it it's like electrified yeah but also but generally speaking the plot line when Batman gets put into Arkham is
Starting point is 00:11:22 the goal here is to get Batman to admit who he is and take the cowl off himself. Or it's not the point. It's like, it doesn't matter who he is. We just have to get him to stop aligning the crystals. Yeah, and there's just a cleaner there just mopping.
Starting point is 00:11:35 He's like, you should probably just take the mask off anyway. That might be a trigger for him. Take your mask off, mate. Mate, I could probably let you out if you took the mask off, actually. Look, I'll either mop, but I've seen a lot of things. People don't think I see things, but I see things. I'm just misunderstood. So, yeah, it is a movie.
Starting point is 00:11:59 I mean, it isn't happening now. I wonder if the other version is going to have Arkham Asylum in it, because I would like to see that. Yeah. Is Arkham Asylum in it, because I would like to see that. Is Arkham Asylum in any of the DC movies? I genuinely don't know. Does Lex Luthor go in there at the end? I don't think he does, actually. Might just be prison.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Just prison. Who cares? Me, deeply. Yeah, I kind of care also. Yeah. I actually forgot to ask you this, but have you watched the trailer for The Irishman? Yes.
Starting point is 00:12:24 Looks pretty bad but but it's a scorsese movie and i don't really care what the trailer looks like to be honest you think the movie will be good regardless no okay but i think it's just benefit of the doubt for me i'm like yeah okay most of his stuff is good and i don't care if this looks like any gangster film that de niro and pacino have done in the last 15 years, which is what it looks like. It absolutely does. This could be made from off-cut footage. This could be a fake trailer.
Starting point is 00:12:50 You know, sometimes people are like, the trailer for the Flash movie is out, and it's just like old John Wesley Shipp Flash footage and then like the CW Flash footage and some cartoon stuff. Michael Keaton Batman. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it could be that as far as I can tell. But yeah, I'm willing.
Starting point is 00:13:08 I'll give it the benefit of the doubt. Definitely. Also confirmed, we talked about this last week, The Irishman is Robert De Niro. Yes, it is true. We suspected as such. That's true, we did. And we knew it all along.
Starting point is 00:13:18 The de-aging. People were like, when and what and how? I think there's some in the trailer, but the end when you see Robert De Niro on the phone, it's supposed to be this big reveal where it pans around him, and you're like, that's young Robert De Niro. But it's like 2003 Robert De Niro. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:33 I was expecting like Taxi Driver, Godfather. Right. Even Heat Robert De Niro. I'll take Heat Robert De Niro. Are you saying... Was he in Heat? He was, wasn't he? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:44 What? Yes? Yeah. What? Yes? Yeah. Because I think it was... Yeah, it was De Niro Pacino. Yes. It was their famed... Their famed final...
Starting point is 00:13:49 They had a cafe off. Yeah. Wow. Exactly. I'm going to get you. De Niro was the criminal? I don't know. Val Kilmer had a ponytail.
Starting point is 00:13:58 That I know. Good. Yeah. It's not a very good movie. No. I know a lot of people like it. I don't think it's very good. A lot of people love it, Michael Mann
Starting point is 00:14:06 is the director of that movie well said I didn't see it for many years and people were like, you've got to see Hate it's the ultimate heist movie speaking of, because we talked heist movies just earlier, we were doing that video for the Italian Job and people were like, oh my god, it's the best heist movie oh my god, the heist, when they get to the heist
Starting point is 00:14:23 mmm, so good, they just shoot it's a van it's movie. Oh my god, the heist. When they get to the heist, mmm, so good. They just shoot. It's a van! It's a van and they shoot. They're just shooting in vans. If it was the best shooting in a van with machine guns movie, I would say, for the time, maybe. Yeah, top three for the time, sure. Yeah. It's not terrible.
Starting point is 00:14:40 No. Yeah. Michael Mann's done some good stuff. Yeah, he has. Not that, or that Miami Vice movie he did Or probably the TV show Which he also did Yeah The original one Yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:14:49 Is there a new one? I don't think so But maybe there is I don't think so Okay I'm going to look it up Okay While you say more things I know there was a Lethal Weapon series
Starting point is 00:14:57 Yes They did that That got cancelled There was There was a pilot for a Magnum PI series I think which didn't get picked up Oh it didn't get picked up Which looked amazing
Starting point is 00:15:04 Yeah Which I wish existed Yes But it get picked up. Which looked amazing. Yeah. Which I wish existed. Yes. But it does, and I haven't looked for it. I don't think there's a Miami Vice series. Unless, of course, it's just weird stuff happening in Florida. Oh, there's apparently a 2021, so it's upcoming. I see.
Starting point is 00:15:17 There's a reboot in the works. Okay, right. So there you go. Okay. All right. All right. I'll watch that. No, you won't.
Starting point is 00:15:23 I'll watch one episode of that. Is Michael Mann involved? I don't know, but sure. Okay. He wants to complete right. I'll watch that. No, you won't. I'll watch one episode of that. Is Michael Mann involved? I don't know, but sure. Okay. He wants to complete his Miami Vice trilogy. Yeah. That's interesting because like the original version of Miami Vice is, you know, it's a little, it's, the pilot was quite dark and then it was kind of, you know, the tone sort
Starting point is 00:15:39 of, the episodes I've seen, like the tone, you know, there were some lighter episodes and some darker episodes. Yeah. It was network TV or whatever. And then the movie was apparently his original vision for Miami Vice. It was very grim and dark and gritty and bad. Yeah, it was bad. So I'm wondering.
Starting point is 00:15:55 And it was mostly just taking boats to Cuba, just back and forth. It was mostly helicopter shots of boats going to Cuba. But I wonder, because people... Vin Diesel's an executive producer on the new one. Because people remember, like when you think of Miami Vice, people remember like white suits, you know, with the sleeves rolled up and everybody's driving a Lamborghini
Starting point is 00:16:13 and it's all kind of neon and pastels and stuff like that. So I wonder if this new version is going to be like modern day grim and gritty drugs in Cuba and whatever or if it's going to be like, well, hey, it's the 80s. I think it'll be that. This guy can't let the 80s go.
Starting point is 00:16:30 He's wearing a suit with the sleeves pushed up. I think it will be Drive, because that's kind of a combination of those two things. And Drive is just old enough now where you're getting too late to it. I see, right. Apparently, though, this is why I thought this, because in November of last year, a teaser trailer was released on YouTube and features a black Lamborghini driving through
Starting point is 00:16:49 Miami at night. I see. Set to be in the air tonight by Phil Collins. Oh, I think I vaguely remember that, yeah. So, yeah, that's why I thought that. And also, in that trailer, there's a gorilla and he's playing the drums? That's correct, yes. That's what I'm thinking of, the Miami Vice trailer.
Starting point is 00:17:00 I like the new direction they're taking. Me too. Why do we get caught on these tangents? The Irishman. It's coming to Netflix. Okay, yeah, it sure is. But if it comes to Netflix, can it be eligible for Oscars? Who gives a fuck?
Starting point is 00:17:14 It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. The Oscars are irrelevant. Yes. Except to stars who get a lot more money if they win an Oscar for some reason. Isn't that weird? Yeah, it is weird. Even though Oscars are more irrelevant than they've ever been to people, to the viewers
Starting point is 00:17:28 of these movies, if you win an Oscar, these movie studios are like, we'll give you more money. We'll give you 10 million more dollars. Why not? I feel like a lot of the time someone wins an Oscar and then they don't really bother to do anything good afterwards. Cuban Gooding Jr. That is a good example.
Starting point is 00:17:44 That's not true entirely, but it seems often to be the peak of someone's career and then they're like, whatever, from now on. Yeah, right. Adrian Brody.
Starting point is 00:17:51 I mean, he did Predators, which is an incredible movie. It's true, yeah. When did we talk about Oscars and that? When did we do that recently? Did we do it for a video? We did it for an ad, actually.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Oh, okay, right. We did it for an ad that some people will hear because it's got to be in some episodes. There you go. Okay, right. Yeah, I was like,
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Starting point is 00:19:01 Did you see Christopher Nolan's new movie Tenet or Tenet? Tenet? David Tenet. T-E-N-E-T But the second T is upside down So it looks like an L It's time travel I see The trailer's only being released in cinemas It's being rolled out the world over Because cinema is back
Starting point is 00:19:13 The cinema experience Oh, so you can't get it on YouTube? Not at the moment I watched the leaked version And I was like I don't know what that is I have no idea what that is You know, I didn't see it
Starting point is 00:19:21 But I did see You know, one of those clickbait titles That comes up on Facebook And it's like could this be a sequel to Inception is it yeah
Starting point is 00:19:28 it's Inception but time travel is it Inception and then somebody's like under the first comment it's like it's not I clicked so you don't have to it's not
Starting point is 00:19:35 I recommend following Film Clickbait on Twitter that's a good one yeah they'll shut all that shit down immediately that's good and I look forward to
Starting point is 00:19:42 being on it one day with you me too hey guys listen to our podcast Shut all that shit down immediately. That's good. And I look forward to being on it one day with you. Me too. Hey, guys, listen to our podcast. And the subordinates just go, don't. Don't do it. Don't worry about it. We've got all the latest news.
Starting point is 00:19:56 They don't. They don't. It's mostly recycled stuff. They've got zero inside information. All their scoops are from anonymous emails. They don't know anything. So I find it interesting, though, that he's at a point in his career
Starting point is 00:20:07 where he can be like, it's only going in theatres. Yeah. Because it will obviously be released online, but this builds hype as well. I think it's also smart. So what happens in this trailer? It's like a guy and he's looking at it like a broken glass, but then it happens again.
Starting point is 00:20:22 And maybe it's a time loop. And then there's flashes of a whole lot of different people and then the word Tenet or Tenet spins upside down and I'm like, that answered zero, none of my questions
Starting point is 00:20:31 about this movie. Oh my God, Tenet, maybe it's a Doctor Who prequel. That's what I was thinking with Christopher Eccleston. It's not. It's not though. So there you go.
Starting point is 00:20:39 Yeah. You're interested, obviously. Yeah, sure. You like his movies. I do for the most part Except for the one Game ranking element In all of them Yes exactly
Starting point is 00:20:47 So for Inception It was Well in Dunkirk It's planes obviously They're too heavy to fly You know what I mean That's a really good point It's like a bumblebee
Starting point is 00:20:55 Because If you heard this The physics behind a bumblebee Technically shouldn't be able to fly Film clickbait Physics hold up It's fine What are you talking about
Starting point is 00:21:04 Well who would think That's clearly not true? Yeah, right? Because it's doing it. It's doing it, yeah. So anyway. Yeah. But I remember you said there's going to be a weird time dilation or there's going to be a weird wrinkle to Dunkirk.
Starting point is 00:21:19 And I was like, they can't because it's World War II. And it's based on a real event. But lo and behold, you were right. It's set in like three different time periods. Oh, yeah. And they all converge at the end. Oh, my God. I was right.
Starting point is 00:21:30 You were right. Yeah. So there you go. Wow. Man, I'm good at this. And in- I should write articles for Geek Tyrant or whatever it's called. Okay.
Starting point is 00:21:39 Yeah, look, I'm on board with it. Yeah, definitely. Again, I don't love everything he's done, but I really did. I like Dunkirk, you know. You don't like Inception? No, I do like Inception. You like Inception. I like Inception a lot.
Starting point is 00:21:52 Remember how the buildings fold in? Yes. And they're like, do you even remember being in the dream? And they're like, nothing. Yeah, I remember that. It was good. Yeah, look, I'm on board. I don't know if I love whatever twist is in this,
Starting point is 00:22:05 but I'm willing to give it a go. And they've got a lot of style, these movies. What if the twist is that it is an Inception prequel? Oh! What will you do? What if the twist is there's no twist at all and it just gets to the end and the credits roll and there's one of those little picture-in-picture things
Starting point is 00:22:19 and it's like, hi, I'm Christopher Nolan, the director of Ten Tenet. Ten Tenet. Thanks for watching. There's nothing more to this. It was just a movie where some stuff happened, and then it was the end. You'll stay to the end of the credits regardless. But there's nothing.
Starting point is 00:22:32 There's nothing. Why would there be anything? I'm Christopher Nolan. I don't do that sort of stuff. I'm an auteur. Yeah. Anyway, goodnight, everyone. And then he just waves.
Starting point is 00:22:39 He just waves for like nine and a half minutes as the credits roll. Excellent. And then he does the... I'm never doing a half minutes as the credits roll. Excellent. And then he does the... I'm never doing a Batman sequel, by the way. Stop asking me about Batman. I'm done with Batman. I'm done answering questions. I only did three because the first one did very well and they gave me a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:22:58 So I could do some other stuff that I liked more. I really phoned in that last one. Yeah, you noticed. You all noticed. You all noticed, yeah. Yeah. I'd like to do another memento, but I haven't got any more ideas like that. Yeah, and Guy Pearce has run out of space on his body to tattoo stuff on.
Starting point is 00:23:11 So what do you want me to do? And then at the end he does a Ferris Bueller. He's like, go home. Go home. But he's in the Ferris Bueller bedroom. Yeah, sure. Go home. Why not?
Starting point is 00:23:23 Why not? Marvel is apparently casting in their Phase 4 movies a transgender female role, codenamed Jessica. They're looking for a trans woman actress of any ethnicity in her 20s or 30s to play her. Geeks Worldwide reckons it could be Sarah or Sarah from I don't know who that is Eternals maybe oh okay right
Starting point is 00:23:47 maybe so there you go it's obviously PC gone mad Mason we both agree with that but good because why not just have
Starting point is 00:23:54 a more diverse range of people would it be nice in a movie it's not going to ruin anything and I know there is also the argument of like but are you just are you doing it
Starting point is 00:24:03 forcing it to create the controversy to whatever you know well that's the thing you like, but are you doing it, forcing it to create the controversy to whatever? Well, that's the thing. You've got to build that in now. And that is an element for a lot of things, I think. I think that Bond casting is probably almost exclusively that. Stunt casting. Yeah, but I'm still also like, but you know what?
Starting point is 00:24:18 A bit of representation. Well, here's the thing. I've said this before about all sorts of stuff, is that you have to factor in that on one hand corporations are heartless soulless monsters and they only do anything because it will affect their balance sheet it'll only put stuff it's only for profiting reasons
Starting point is 00:24:37 the Lion King remake and so if they're like hey we're going to fully support the queer community for this obviously that's just a stunt. But in doing that, it can give rise to queer creators. I think you said people who actually care about this stuff. Yeah, people of color who actually care about it.
Starting point is 00:24:57 They then get a chance to write this thing or star in this thing or do this thing. And that works out. So the idea behind, oh, it's just, they're just doing diversity for profits. Yeah, we know. We know they're just doing diversity for profits, but that means that people will see themselves in these movies,
Starting point is 00:25:15 which is good. And people who want to create with a unique voice can do these movies. That's right. And sometimes things are good or bad regardless. Yes. Anyway, we've saved movies we've done it again James
Starting point is 00:25:27 how do we do it two middle class white men film clickbait they did they did do it this time they've done it hooray
Starting point is 00:25:34 yeah oh did you see the Instagram post of the guy whose name I can't recall but he's Canadian and he was in he is Aladdin
Starting point is 00:25:42 in Aladdin new Aladdin oh yeah I like him a lot and he was like I should be the new I should be the new Wolverine. He's Canadian? He's Canadian.
Starting point is 00:25:48 Yeah. That's all that's required. And he's short-ish. That's true. Looks like he could grow a pretty good sideburn.
Starting point is 00:25:54 That's true also, yeah. I mean, also it's PC got mad. You need to factor that in. Yeah, absolutely. It's PC got mad. I like the new
Starting point is 00:25:59 slate that's coming up. I don't know whether any of it will be good, but I think also I like that they're in a position where they've made so much money and there's so much good faith behind the movies that they're trying things
Starting point is 00:26:10 a little differently regardless of how that goes. Yeah. But, you know. I think the next Wolverine should be short and squat. I agree. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:18 Like the same height as he is width. You know? Yes. You know? I agree. Kind of like that He-Man action figure. ramdar battering ram ramdar
Starting point is 00:26:27 right no it was ram man was it okay yeah him yeah get whoever played him in the cartoon yes exactly yeah i saw taran agerson as well people were like what about him i'm like yeah sure why not no i mean it's basically gone mad obviously it's basically gone mad a british are you kidding me british we're getting a british bat Batman you know I'm not happy about that Mason Ryan Reynolds has posted on Twitter an Instagram post that's related to Deadpool
Starting point is 00:26:49 it's like one of those serial killer boards where all the strings connect in and it says investigating heading into year 5 or as I call it
Starting point is 00:26:57 phase 5 the point is I love conspiracy yarn oh so the phase year 5 of the Deadpool cinematic universe is that the joke or hashtag
Starting point is 00:27:05 leak anniversary which is what it's of so when Deadpool is leaked by him allegedly yes it was him I mean he hasn't yes
Starting point is 00:27:14 I mean he said everything but oh right uh huh yeah he did leak it good for him I know because that whole franchise is better for
Starting point is 00:27:20 the X-Men movies made money because of that that's true yeah they should thank him he tricked so many people he really did seeing those X-Men movies made money because of that. That's true. Yeah. They should thank him every time. He tricked so many people into seeing those X-Men movies. So there you go. So phase five, it looks like.
Starting point is 00:27:30 What I also get from that is Deadpool won't be in this next phase, but he'll be in phase five. Of the Marvel Universe. Yeah. Okay, right. Because they own him. That's true. And he'll probably come out at the start with Mickey Mouse ears
Starting point is 00:27:41 and he's like, what is this bloody Mickey Mouse show? What is this bloody Mickey Mouse show? What is this the bloody Mickey Mouse show? But then twist, he's in a dress. It's Minnie Mouse. Oh my goodness. Isn't that Deadpool? That is very Deadpool. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:27:51 Yeah. Anyway, I'm free to write it if anybody. I'm not doing anything most days. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. What do you think though? Phase five. Then that's at least two years off.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Three. More likely. I'm on board. Great. Awesome. All right. We're going to talk about the boys and Hobbs and Shaw in that order, aren't we Mason? then that's at least two years off three more likely i'm on board great awesome all right we're going to talk about the boys and uh hobs and shore in that order aren't we mason if you want to skip
Starting point is 00:28:09 ahead to hobs and shore you can uh there's also spoiler uh we'll put in the spoilers for the boys if you want to skip and but it's on television you can watch it on television yeah nice let's do that now oh there'll be an ad first okay there'll be an ad yeah and then we'll put in the pre-recorded segment about the boys no no this is all one segment. Is it? Good for us. Okay. We didn't record it three days ago. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:28 So this wouldn't be an exhausting episode. I understand. I love ads and I love doing ads. Me too. I love slipping into an ad mid-podcast. Seamless. Seamless like the integration of an ad in a podcast. Synergy.
Starting point is 00:28:41 That's right. Product integration. Mason! Well, not really because we don't shave on Mike. No, we don't. We could. We leave Mike alone. Get out of here, Mike.
Starting point is 00:28:52 It's the intern. Your dog. Yeah. Listen, you got any travel plans for the summer, Mason, slash the winter period here? Yep. What do you got? What are you doing? Road trip.
Starting point is 00:29:01 Road trip, exactly. And that's a really good idea when you're going on a road trip, as I did recently, Mason, to the Gold Coast, to the GC. How'd that go? Good, because you bring your Harry's razor, you put it in a little travel case, you go on your way. Was that the only highlight of the trip? Absolutely. You're like, oh, why am I doing this?
Starting point is 00:29:16 Oh, I get a chance to shave, though. Very nice. A lot of guys actually buy disposable razors when they travel. You know, you might grab them at the airport or whatever. Huge mistake. But you really don't do that this i don't know where this ad copy's going what if it wasn't what if it was like and it's the best thing no no i'm taking a stand i don't care what you say it's a big mistake bring your harry's razor you're right you're absolutely right because you don't have to sacrifice quality for price because harry's deliver high quality
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Starting point is 00:29:58 Sometimes at the airport. Or at the road trip port. You know? I bought a bottle of water at the airport. It cost $5.50. Huh. That's outrageous. That is outrageous.
Starting point is 00:30:07 It is outrageous. It's water. Yeah. I drank from the toilet, Mason. That's what I did. But you bought the bottle of water. Yeah, but it's the principle, isn't it? It's the principle thing.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Okay, right. I get you. So they don't do vibrating heads, heated blades, handles that look like a prop in a sci-fi movie. Those are just some of the tactics that the leading brands have used to overcharge for years. Thumbs down, I say. That's right. Again, quality, durable blades at a fair price, just $2 per blade.
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Starting point is 00:31:35 Helps us out, doesn't it? It helps your face out. Mine personally. And Mike. Get back in here, Mike. We forgive you. Just kidding. Get out.
Starting point is 00:31:42 Amazon might be on a bit of a roll at the moment, Mason. Would you agree with that? I think they are. In terms of quality superhero shows. Yeah, The Tick. The Tick, Good Omens. Well, not superhero, but you know what I mean. Fantastical.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Fantastical. Books. Books. More books than anything, isn't it? What am I doing? This started out really narrow and then you've broadened it out as you realised that the... The three things I was talking about aren't all comics.
Starting point is 00:32:05 No, that's true, yeah. Yeah. But the boys also. Yeah, the boys. Have you seen all three of those? I have seen all three of those. You've seen all of Good Omens? Yes.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Interesting. What do you think of that, just quickly? I like it. It's very... Douglas Adams. Yes, it's very Douglas Adams, absolutely. It's very that Hitchhiker's movie that not a lot of people saw, but I still enjoyed.
Starting point is 00:32:24 You wish. Did we watch it that time and all those guys walked out? Yeah. Do you remember that? They were like, I remember one guy, he was going to insult it on the way out. And he went, stupid, dumb movie. Nice. He got him.
Starting point is 00:32:36 Yeah, he did get him. Yeah. I think it was the four minute dolphin scene that broke him. Yeah, it was. Yeah. And the voiceover, I think. Yeah, right. And there was voiceover and there was reading
Starting point is 00:32:45 and there was Dolph and stuff and I don't think he could handle it, to be honest. Anyway, this is going to be a movie, actually. In 2008, Adam McKay, he signed on to do it. Oh. It did end up happening.
Starting point is 00:32:55 I think it works better as a TV series. I think so, too, yeah. So, Eric Kripke, who you may know from Supernatural. Nope. He did like the first 17,000 seasons or something like that. Oh, yeah, terrific. Yeah, I think he did the first five. So, the first third. Yeah. He did like the first 17,000 seasons or something like that. Oh yeah, terrific.
Starting point is 00:33:05 So the first third. Yeah. Okay, right. And this is another Seth Rogen joint. It is, yeah. In the tradition of Preacher. Because this is, again, this is a Garth Ennis created franchise. I just saw this.
Starting point is 00:33:19 It started at Wildstorm, one of your favorites. That's true, it did. And then moved to Dynamite. Which I'm going to assume, I don't know the timeline there, but I would assume that's because Jim Lee, who owned Wildstorm, sold it back to DC. And then he probably was like, if anybody wants to jump ship, you can jump ship.
Starting point is 00:33:35 Yeah. I imagine Garth Ennis would have jumped ship. Because Wildstorm was creator-owned, was it? Yeah, Wildstorm was an image brand. Off thing. There you bloody go. We did an episode on it probably. We did, that's true yeah
Starting point is 00:33:45 anyway we're already getting season 2 of this it's already in production I think they're filming it currently what do you think the story was I got you
Starting point is 00:33:53 you bloody you got me bloody it's modern day America isn't it except isn't it just there's superheroes
Starting point is 00:33:59 except bit satirical isn't it corporations corporations organised religion shenanigans shenanigans yeah babies shooting lasers out of their eyes except a bit satirical, isn't it? Corporations. Corporations. Organized religion. Shenanigans. Shenanigans. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:07 Babies shooting lasers out of their eyes. That was incredible. Pretty good, right? The best. Yeah. What do you think of this? I think it's skirted the line, but it's very much like right on the edge.
Starting point is 00:34:19 It's edgy, let me tell you. I can appreciate that. But it's right on that line of like, okay, this is quite a clever satire of what's happening in superheroes It's edgy, let me tell you. I can appreciate that. But it's right on that line of like, okay, this is quite a clever satire of what's happening in superheroes and what superheroes would be like in the real world and the corporatization of that. And at the same time, and then sometimes it skips up the line. I'm like, well, that's a bit much.
Starting point is 00:34:35 A bit gross and a bit much. Yeah. Are you talking about specifically like sexual assault stuff and things? Yes. Yeah, I don't disagree with that. The thing is, it's less of that in this than there is in the comic that's true it is it is a little bit it's it's significantly cleaned up i mean believe it but i mean there was you know there was something like 70 issues of the comic book so yeah i am you know there's plenty of room to make things worse and maybe this is a
Starting point is 00:34:58 very maybe this is a very cleaned up intro yeah just to ease people in and then season two will get worse we don't know yet yeah Cause I'm the same with you. Like I found those bits uncomfortable, but then I'm also thinking this is a terrible universe with terrible people, but then I'm also thinking, is there a better way to do it then? Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:35:14 I mean, cause it kind of, it is to the comics in some ways by doing those things, but yeah, it's kind of like, are we still doing this kind of? Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:35:23 Right. But at the same time, if you don't put that stuff in, it's really just. Yeah. Justice league, but they're kind of like, are we still doing this? Yeah, right, right. But at the same time, if you don't put that stuff in, it's really just Justice League, but they're kind of rude. Yeah, that's exactly it. I love the idea of just, oh my God, this is a real skewering of the MCU and the DCEU, you know, those multi-billion dollar companies. From us, the little guy, Amazon,
Starting point is 00:35:44 the biggest company in the world. We've never paid taxes. Yeah. And we never will. It's very well cast. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's less well accented, certainly.
Starting point is 00:35:53 Are you talking about Billy Butcher? Yes, I am. Specifically? Yes, Carl Urban, yes. Because he is British, isn't he? No, he's from New Zealand. No, I mean, sorry, in the comic he's supposed to be. He looks like him, doesn't he? That's true. Would you rather him have his New Zealand accent? Be like, oi, isn't it? No, absolutely's from New Zealand. No, I mean, sorry, in the comic he's supposed to be. He looks like him, doesn't he?
Starting point is 00:36:05 That's true. Would you rather him have his New Zealand accent? Be like, oi, isn't it? No, absolutely not. That's not New Zealand. No, I do like his accent that veers from Cockney to whatever else. Yeah, I didn't mind it.
Starting point is 00:36:16 Actually, I was watching this and I'm like, is this a terrible accent? On purpose. On purpose? Or if you're from England, is it offensive to hear? Because for me, I don't mind it. I'm like, because this is garish and over the top.
Starting point is 00:36:29 So I'm like, whatever. I don't give a shit. What I think is just an interesting thing, sort of apropos of nothing else we're going to talk about, but the fact that he- Non-spoilers and spoilers, right? Yeah, sure. That he drops the C-bomb so often that I wonder if like,
Starting point is 00:36:42 I wonder if America has adjusted to that at this point or if that's still, is that meant to be part of the shocking nature of the show and the character that he just keeps doing this? Because I'm like, that's kind of quaint, isn't it? We could, uh, we could, well, cause in Australia it's, it's a term of endearment. Absolutely. It's a flat out insult. It's hailing a cab.
Starting point is 00:36:59 It's whatever. It's whatever you want to use it for. That's right. Yeah. Actually to our American listeners. Yeah. Was it kind of shocking to to use it for that's right yeah actually to our american listeners yeah was it kind of shocking to see to see that i think probably less so now than like four or five years ago yeah probably yeah that's true it's not a word i really use that much no but you know yeah if you want to use it mason that's your opportunity you can prove that you're not a coward no i'm gonna
Starting point is 00:37:20 save it i can't do it he's still a coward good for you. Simon Pegg, it's funny that he plays Huey's father because from the comic, he's just Simon Pegg. Oh, yes. In the comic book, I guess, who did the art in the original couple? Was it Derek Robertson? I don't know. I wouldn't tell you. But yeah, his visual inspiration for Wee Huey in the comic book is just Simon Pegg.
Starting point is 00:37:43 I guess when it was originally meant to be a movie. Yeah, like 2006 or whatever. It could very well have been Simon Pegg. Yeah. A decade plus later, he's a dad now, I guess. He's a dad now with abs now. Oh, is he? He's doing abs now.
Starting point is 00:37:55 Yeah, no, that's true. He's doing GQ shoot or whatever. I guess he's from the abs. He's doing abs now. Yeah, exactly. I was watching an interview with him recently because he's cleaned up all his, like he was verging on alcoholism and all this kind of thing. Oh, really? Yeah, he's cleaned himself up. I'd never an interview with him recently because he's cleaned up all his... He was verging on alcoholism and all this kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Oh, really? Yeah, he's cleaned himself up. I'd never thought that about him. He seems like a nice enough guy. He has no personal problems, but we've all got demons, don't we? Maybe it's in his autobiography that I didn't read. Oh. What's it called?
Starting point is 00:38:17 Nerd Duel. Oh, I thought you were going to make up something. No, it's real. So this wasn't a beat that you were doing? No. You weren't building up to an incredible joke? Now I'm going to have to, aren't I? it's real.
Starting point is 00:38:21 So this wasn't a beat that you were doing? No. You weren't building up to an incredible joke? Now I'm an afghan. Frenchie's good. Maybe a real French guy. Who's to say? That's all we can ask for, isn't it? Kimiko's good.
Starting point is 00:38:36 Mother's Milk's good. Starlight's good. I guess the good people in this, I guess. The core cast. Yeah. They're all very entertaining in their own way. What do you know about the act of the place Homelander? I actually just looked into this before. He's also from New cast. Yeah. They're all very entertaining in their own way. What do you know about the actor that plays Homelander? I actually just looked into this before.
Starting point is 00:38:47 He's also from New Zealand. Yeah, he's also from... Because you know what's good about a lot of the heroes from this, with the exception of A-Train? Yes. I didn't recognise specifically a single one of them. What's A-Train from? He's Shaft's junior junior.
Starting point is 00:38:59 Oh, okay, right. That movie I saw mere weeks ago that I didn't recall. He's Will Smith's junior junior from Independence Will Smith Jr. Jr. from Independence Day. No, just Jr. from Independence Day. This is the only role that he's done where I'm like, oh, he's okay. All right. Yeah, because the other ones, it's just,
Starting point is 00:39:13 I did watch Shaft at your best. Yeah, I know you did, and you hated it. I did not enjoy it at all. Shaft 2000 all the way, baby. Yeah. Yeah, Mason. No, I disagree. So, no, he's from New Zealand.
Starting point is 00:39:25 Yeah. What do you think of him? Good. Great. I think that added to it. It's kind of that Chris Reeve kind of thing of like, it's an unknown. Yeah, we don't have any preconceived notions of what that character can or cannot do or be. I thought he was American.
Starting point is 00:39:39 I had no idea until I looked it up. That's what we want. It's not even blonde. It's the flag that does it. That might be it. Yep. Costumes are good, aren't they? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:46 Yeah. He never really gets out of that costume, does he? Must be uncomfortable. What's under there? Is it glued to him? At least the top half is. That's true. Something's going on there.
Starting point is 00:39:53 Yeah. Yeah. But again, I liked it. I enjoyed it. I mean, I think maybe the... I wonder about in terms of pacing. I don't think it's a spoiler to say that everybody in... All the superheroes are bad people. Yeah. That the whole premise it's in the trailer though there is more than more
Starting point is 00:40:09 so than the comics and our friend hollywood pete ford didn't like this element of it they humanize a lot of them that's true they do the worst thing imaginable and then come around and be like but they've got their own demons and i'm like yeah i guess in the comic books for the most part they're just awful they're all just awful people for the way like there's no awful and stupid yeah we we encounter they they're like we're gonna get this super team and beat them up or whatever and they're all horrible people involved in awful things and then they just go we're gonna blackmail you and they're like well let's fight and then they kill each other yeah it's kind of pretty much it's more cut and dried in this yeah like i what, I... What I...
Starting point is 00:40:45 Yeah. Do you think they should have spaced out the revelation that Homelander is not all that he says he is? Or, like, that he's not this paragon of virtue? Because I think they pretty much give the game away, like, episode one. No, they do. You're right. They do give it away fairly quickly.
Starting point is 00:41:01 Yeah. Maybe. I mean, having read the comics, I knew that, obviously. But do you think people would have figured it out, even though he was like, that guy's, you haven't got a bloody thing on Homeland or whatever. Yeah, I thought that was weird that there was nothing on that guy, despite the fact that... They knew a lot about him.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Yeah. He knew specifically a lot about him. Yes, exactly, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I guess there was nothing that they could openly use on him, I guess. The other ones, a lot of them they could, maybe. Yeah, that's true. There's things like A-Train ran through a woman openly use on him, I guess. The other ones, a lot of them they could, maybe. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:41:27 Those things that they, like A-Train ran through a woman. That's true, he did. Yep. There's a lot of people exploding like a bag of blood in this. Yes. Which I liked. And being sliced to pieces. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:37 Like that laser vision that they use in that, it cuts through a plane at one point. Yeah. It's really good. It's actually, it's more light on fighting and action sequences and special effects than I think you'd realize. Or a lot of the special effects is like background stuff. You know what I mean? It's not all brawly, brawly, punchy, punchy. That's true.
Starting point is 00:41:55 It is, again, very small budget Amazon. Yeah, that's right. Exactly. They got no money. Yeah. But I like the element of, if this happened in the real world, first of all, God help us, bloody every one of us, mate. if this happened in the real world, first of all, God,
Starting point is 00:42:03 God help us bloody every one of us, mate, because it would be like a corporation getting together a group of these people and monetizing them and having press events and selfies and being like, okay, so if you save a bus and you've got to stay around and get selfies and then whatever, it'd be all,
Starting point is 00:42:16 it'd be like being a professional sports person. Yeah. And there would be some that the terrible, most of the terrible probably add some that are, you know, that are just trying to do the right thing or whatever. That's true, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:26 So that, yeah, that element kind of rang true to a thing that's very much untrue. Queen Maeve, I liked as well. Another actor I'm like, don't know who this is, but it works because it's like this Wonder Woman-esque. It's Wonder Woman. Oh, yeah, it is. Wonder Woman without the lasso. Or the flying, or the flying, or the jet.
Starting point is 00:42:45 There's a guy who's Silent Batman. Yeah. What's his deal? I can't remember from the comics. I haven't finished him, actually. Unless there's going to be some sort of odd twist in season two, in this he kind of just is Silent Batman, but in the comic books he's a clone of homelander ah if you recall i'm not up
Starting point is 00:43:09 to that yeah okay there you go oh there you go that's probably what it will be here no well i mean it might be but it oh okay well they're not doing that storyline though i guess no so there's the the the revelation see i can't i can't say without spoiling i can't say to non-spoilers but if i tell you i'm also spoiling you for the't say it in non-spoilers, but if I tell you, I'm also spoiling you for the comic books. Oh, okay. I think I know it anyway. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:29 But do you want to move into spoilers? Let's move into spoilers. Yeah. Okay, go on. For the comic and the... Oh, okay. So in the comic book, all of the most horrible things that Homelander does are actually black noir
Starting point is 00:43:41 because he's a clone of Homelander. And he's trying to come to terms with that. Yes, exactly. Because he thinks it's him that's doing it, that he's because he's a clone of Homelander and he's trying to come to terms with that yes exactly because he thinks it's him that's doing it yes exactly that he's going mad yeah
Starting point is 00:43:48 but in this all the worst stuff that's happening is Homelander because he's a terrible person yeah though he still does some terrible things
Starting point is 00:43:53 in the comic because I've started re-reading again there's a bit where a family win like a dinner with Homelander and so he flies off with their car
Starting point is 00:44:00 and then he just drops it yeah like he's just like I'm not doing this he just lets them die. What I kind of wish... I think that that's one aspect that they have had to tone down in this is that in the comic books they are the worst people alive
Starting point is 00:44:15 in a lot of cases. And that works because it's kind of this hyper-real cartoony world in the boys in the comic book, but in the TV series. If he was dropping people off, you know. Someone would notice. Someone would notice. Yeah, exactly right. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:44:33 A big change that I noticed from this, and I think it speaks to the whole series, is how they handle the plane crash sequence. Because from the comics, from my memory, the superhero team get into the plane and they're like don't worry everybody we've got this and they just fuck it because none of none of them are engineers or pilots or know what they're doing and they end up crashing the plane and panicking and leaving yes but in this it's an like he kind of cuts through the the fuselage or whatever and then he's like they're done i can't yeah i'm just gonna go so I think that's the difference. Yeah, there's also way more incompetence in the cartoon series as well. Like these guys seem, again, they are more like elite athletes. They do, for the most part, know what they're doing,
Starting point is 00:45:13 but they're also constrained by this corporate structure or like this idea that they're these religious figures and also they're awful. They're also awful. And also they're manufactured. Yes. Yeah. I think season two they're going to move into that compound V
Starting point is 00:45:28 is in a pill and anyone can take it and then be superpowered for an hour and then they can punch on it. Because there's zero of that in this. Yeah, that's true. Except for Kimiko who's superpowered from the get-go. In the comics, if I remember correctly, Billy gives Huey a superpower pill and makes him superpowered and he's not on board again because they killed his girlfriend.
Starting point is 00:45:46 Yeah, absolutely. But yeah, I mean, because this series is left on this cliffhanger that is not from the comic books. Again, they're going off script immediately with this series where the reveal is that Butch's wife is still alive and she's had a kid with Homelander and he's superpowered. Yeah. And I think the remainder of the boys might mount a rescue mission
Starting point is 00:46:06 from that point forward. Like they'll take the... Because otherwise, how's Butcher getting out of this one? That was interesting about this version of Homelander because he's raised... I can't remember whether he's in the comics. Maybe he's not. But being raised in a lab, he's just insane.
Starting point is 00:46:20 Yes. Because he's never been held or hugged. He's got weird kind of sexual fetishes because he wasn't you know nursed as a baby or anything like that and was that like that in the comics i can't remember yeah i can't remember either i i'm pretty sure he's dumber in the comics i feel yeah they're all dumber yeah uh-huh yeah again that that's you know that the cartoony world where it's like if you bring it if you bring any of those elements to i think this is a this is a surprisingly good adaptation.
Starting point is 00:46:46 Yeah, I really liked it. I think I enjoyed it probably as much as The Tick, I would say, for different reasons entirely. I kind of like The Tick a little bit more. That's okay. You're allowed to. Tick also got two seasons, but no more. I'll make sure of that. Oh, no!
Starting point is 00:47:02 What I did like a bit... Elizabeth Shue's character I liked as as well she kind of had a handle on all these superhero characters but she obviously not powered herself until it gets out of hand and she because she's just a lunatic and just burns her eyes and brain out or whatever oh that's right yeah that's right i was thinking about on the way over here and i'm like butcher just blew her up and then i'm like no he las her eyes out. Do you reckon they got the baby out? He probably wouldn't have. He didn't like that baby, did he?
Starting point is 00:47:28 No. Yeah. Is it Homelander's baby, though? I don't think so. Okay, just a regular baby. Yeah. Okay, probably not then. Probably not, yeah. The laser baby's great, though.
Starting point is 00:47:36 The laser-eyed baby. Incredible. What I also liked about this is the way that they talk about how hard superheroes are to kill. And each one of them presents a unique problem because they're all different. Yeah. So you can't kill one the same way as another. That's true.
Starting point is 00:47:50 Yeah. They killed the Invisible Man, whatever his name is. What's his name, Mirage? It's Translucent. Yeah, by putting C4 up his ass. But that wouldn't work on... Actually, it'd probably work on a lot of them. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:48:04 If they could build some sort of C4 rectal delivery system, I think they could work on most of them, to be honest. Yeah, right up there. Why do you think Homeland is the strongest one of all of them, being the first? I think probably, actually that's a good question. I think in the comic books, isn't he, he was the original? Or is he, and all the rest are cloned from him?
Starting point is 00:48:26 Is that the case or am I misremembering that? I honestly couldn't tell you. There's people yelling at us right now. It doesn't matter. But I think probably in that, and also I think he's had the constant dosage of the Compound V. Yeah. From childhood to now. Right, okay.
Starting point is 00:48:38 I think. Yeah. And the rest of them just had it at childhood. They got their superpowers. Yeah. And now they're out in the world. It's also one of those things where if you were presented with the opportunity to dose your kid with it and then they could live a better life.
Starting point is 00:48:50 Yeah. It would be a thing that I'd imagine a lot of parents would consider doing. Isn't there a chance you explode? Yeah. Or you can be famous. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. That's true.
Starting point is 00:49:02 I mean, it depends what you get. But that's just like in real life. Exactly. You can explode and you can be famous yeah that's true yeah i mean it depends what you get but that's like just like in real life exactly you can explode and you can be famous and you have no control it's one or the other that's true you just don't know yeah it's also interesting how some of them don't manifest how you'd want like the deep who's like the aquaman has the weird gills on his on his abdomen or whatever on his tum tum on his tum tum yeah which is you tum-tum. On his tum-tum, yeah. Which is, you know, I also enjoy like the different divisions. Like you want to be in the seven,
Starting point is 00:49:30 but there's like tears. Yeah. Of like, you know, where does he end up? He ends up Iowa, I think. Iowa, yeah. Yeah, good on him. The fight with the invisible man, translucent boy,
Starting point is 00:49:40 whatever, is good. That's a good effect. The initial one, the first. They're spitting blood on him and then you can see him. I like how they're spitting blood on him and then yeah right you can see him I like how they're like he's invisible and
Starting point is 00:49:47 indestructible I guess he's indestructible he's got two things alright what do you what do you bloody want from it would you recommend this though to people
Starting point is 00:49:55 yeah yeah 30 day free trial that's exactly it I think it's it's definitely not for everybody Claire and I briefly talked about it on Suggestible
Starting point is 00:50:04 our podcast did you make her watch any of it? No, I'm like, you will hate this from the get-go. None of this will appeal to you. Would she like the tick, I wonder? I think she might like the tick. The tick's more kind of... The tick, if we can briefly talk about the tick. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:17 The tick's more of a background character. Having watched the entire thing at this point, two seasons only, very sad I don't appear the tick. He's really just there to just... Arthur's the main guy. Yeah, Arthur's the main guy. Yeah, the tick is mostly just...
Starting point is 00:50:31 And I really enjoy Peter Serafinowicz as the tick. Yeah. I think that's smart, though, because he's pretty much... He's a fairly one-dimensional character. Oh, yeah, for sure. And I don't mean that in a negative way. I think that's what works about him. Yeah, by design, he is. He's simple and straightforward. And there's Oh, yeah, for sure. And I don't mean that in a negative way. I think that's what works about him. Yeah, by design he is.
Starting point is 00:50:45 He's simple and straightforward. And there's an element of, where's he from? What's his origin? Doesn't matter. Well, that's the thing. I mean, it's the boys versus the tick. It's those two different approaches. With the boys, they went, okay, well, let's take these somewhat one-dimensional comic book characters
Starting point is 00:51:00 and flesh them out for real life. And with the tick, every version of the tick is just, let's just get him and put him. Let's get the flat 2D guy and just put out for real life. And with The Tick, every version of The Tick is just, let's just get him and put him, let's get the flat 2D guy and just put him in real life. That's all you really need. And that's him interacting with the real world. It looks really uncomfortable, doesn't it? Yeah, every version of it. How do you feel, I don't think season two was as strong.
Starting point is 00:51:18 I think it lacked a definitive villain. It was kind of like, I won't't really spoil it but it's more like corporations or something or like bureaucracy was the villain yeah and that's the thing i think the tick works best with a the terror yeah or a chair face chippendale yes which we didn't get no or lobsterculis yeah lobsterculis or the evil midnight bomber what bombs at midnight or any of those characters uh it felt to me like it was just getting started yeah i think they were like here we go season two time to time to stretch our wings let's really kind of flesh out some of this stuff in this universe and then before they got to
Starting point is 00:51:53 another major villain yeah i don't think anybody really watched it i think it's probably getting more people more eyes on it now well i only watched it after i only watched season two after it got cancelled yeah same i watched the whole thing after it got cancelled well because i remember they released a pilot in like 2016 and then it was maybe a clear year before the rest of the season and i went yeah maybe get around to this maybe maybe they would have benefited from dropping it all at once maybe yeah well i mean griffin newman who is arthur on the show he has talked about you know and he was one of the first people to talk about you know your netflix's and your
Starting point is 00:52:23 amazon's incentivized to only release two seasons of anything because it doesn't make any more sense economically to do more seasons because it doesn't bring in more people. Did the people creating it for Amazon know that at the time? Right. Because I think if they didn't, they could have done two really strong, super focused seasons. You put in kind of everything you want to see. Yeah, you put in a strong villain season one, even more strong villain season two, and then you have the terror.
Starting point is 00:52:48 Spoiler alert for season one, he is captured at the end, and then you would have had him escape in the second one and then team up with the new villain and blah, blah, blah. I don't think he's in... He's not in the second season at all, is he? No. Yeah. But again, I really liked the cast of characters.
Starting point is 00:53:03 I liked the sister. I liked Overkill. I liked Overkill. I liked Miss Lint. Overkill's great. Overkill is great. The ongoing sort of identity crisis of Superion, who is the Superman Homelander kind of character, who can do anything, but what is he doing with his life kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:53:18 It's a very good question. What a world. And there was a big naked man in it. What's a big naked man? That was my favourite part. Anyway, two a big naked man in it. So that's why. What's a big naked man? Yeah. That was my favourite part. Yeah. Anyway, two good shows.
Starting point is 00:53:28 Two good shows. If you had to recommend one, which would you recommend? I would probably recommend The Tick. Yeah. Because. I think The Boys is more, would be easier to get into. Do you think that? Well, I think it's more like subverting your expectations.
Starting point is 00:53:40 The Tick is weird. And I think if I had to recommend to like a friend, I would say the boys is more Game of Thrones and the tick is more community, I guess, if I had to pick. You're right. You wouldn't recommend community over Game of Thrones. Well, I think not to a regular person, no. Right. Because community didn't do very well, did it?
Starting point is 00:53:57 No, that's true. It ended up on Yahoo streaming or whatever. No. Yeah, I like community. That's not what I'm saying. But what I'm saying is I think The Boys is more commercially viable than The Tick. Yeah, I guess that's probably true.
Starting point is 00:54:08 But I think maybe if I was confronted with somebody who's like, I don't like superheroes, change my mind somehow. Yeah. I think I would give them The Tick. But you could also do that
Starting point is 00:54:18 with The Boys because it's about, the show is about. Are you being sponsored by The Boys? Well, it should just be called I Don't Like Superheroes. Oh, for sure, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:26 Well, Garth Ennis, the creator, seemingly really hates them. Yeah. And that's one of his greatest strengths. So why not get into the comic book industry? That's what I say. Also, do you suspect that the child of Homelander, that's a consensual child? Yeah, maybe, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:40 Anyway, we'll see how that plays out in season two of The Boys, but not season three of The Tick. No, I don't play The Tick Okay, but here's a question I'm not ready No, you are ready Because we stopped talking about The Boys And then we stopped recording
Starting point is 00:54:52 And then I'm like, should we talk about what happens in season two? So my question to you is Okay I don't think you're going to be ready for this though Alright What do you think is going to happen in season two? Okay, I think, as mentioned, it's going to be revealed that The Homelander's Child, that was a consensual relationship and affair, as it were.
Starting point is 00:55:07 I think I'd also prefer it to go that way. Yeah, because it's less disturbing. And again, it's a trope that's... Yeah. The fact that it's a... Like, it should be done. Yes. We should stop.
Starting point is 00:55:16 There's no fresh take on that. No. Ever, I don't think, anymore. I think it's also the thing of, for the character of Billy Butcher, it's probably the worst thing he could hear. Yeah. Because he's driven by rage and vengeance and, you know, this violent act that he thought happened. But what if it didn't? Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:55:33 You know what I mean? What if he was a bad husband and, you know, she was an unfaithful wife and that happened. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. And I read yesterday that. All your troubles seem so far away exactly but now it looks as though yes everything's still good oh nice that's really good all right good
Starting point is 00:55:51 night everyone uh no that uh so in the comic books we have uh the the original nazi super villain was stormfront or the original yeah uh voight creation was was this super being called Stormfront. And in the comic book, because it's a man, and in the TV show it's going to be Aya Cash, who is the female lead in You're the Worst. Okay, right. Which is a series I enjoy very much. I've not seen that yet.
Starting point is 00:56:16 Well, that just finished up. So is she going to be a modern-day villain now? I don't, there's no... Like a terrorist? Because they bring in terrorist supervill's true well maybe yeah i mean the the one of the the second so the second story arc of the boys i think they go to moscow yeah in the comic books it's the rushes the villain there's exploding super villains and what have you and boy build uh they create some of these super villains with the plan that they're going to blow them up
Starting point is 00:56:44 right you know and then and then you know all that they're going to blow them up. Right. You know, and then all the heroes are going to come in and then the villains are going to be destroyed and blah, blah, blah. So I think we might see that. Because, again, we have those exploding supervillains. But they're going to move it to the Middle East, I guess. Yeah. So I don't know. I think maybe we'll see her in a flashback sequence.
Starting point is 00:57:00 Yeah, right. Well, that's the thing. Because what we don't have in this series necessarily is strong super villains. No. Because they are super villains. The heroes are the villains, but that's the thing, that we don't get. It's weird that we haven't got, like, real authentic super villains. Like, at least on the face of it, it's weird that none of them.
Starting point is 00:57:19 Yeah, it's like bank robbers and. It's weird that we haven't, because in this universe there's supposed to be maybe 200 superheroes it's weird that they haven't like turned any of them like even even like for marketing purposes have gone hey let's make you guys villains yeah or anything like that but i guess that's what they end up well that's homeland ends up creating for that for marketing purposes that's true yeah and yeah i think it also would be interesting for for that guy in particular he's never been in a fight that he couldn't instantly win. Yeah. And then what happens when he goes up against somebody who can actually hurt him?
Starting point is 00:57:50 Yeah. Would he step up in that moment or would he crumble with the fear of actually being in any physical danger? That's true, yeah. We don't know. We don't even know if he can feel pain. Yeah. Yeah, because we do have those supervillains. We're talking about the laser baby.
Starting point is 00:58:03 The laser baby is being kept in a... Laser baby cot. Laser baby cot. But the lasers are being absorbed by the cot. So I'm wondering if we're going to bring in some sort of... I think maybe there needs to be some sort of leveling of the playing field, obviously. Everyone gets a laser baby? Everybody gets a laser baby.
Starting point is 00:58:24 A holstered laser baby. A holstered laser baby. Holstered laser baby and like a laser baby proof shield. Yes. You know what I mean? Sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:30 Like Captain America. Like Captain America. Exactly. Yeah. It's exactly what he's packing. So what do you mean by leveling the field? Well,
Starting point is 00:58:35 I don't know. I think, again, I think we need, yeah, I think you're right in that we need, we need Homelander
Starting point is 00:58:41 to come up against some people that he's. And whether that even be the boys. Yeah. One of them gets superpowered enough to be able to break his nose or whatever. Yeah, yeah. But I guess because they've got Starlight, I guess they've got one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:55 And Kimiko as well, actually. They've got a couple that are superpowered. But against all of them, it's not. No. It's not enough. Yeah. Anyway, that's the boys. That's the boys. A couple of boys here.
Starting point is 00:59:07 Yes. Done talking about the bloody boys and also the tick briefly. Yes. RIP the tick. RIP tick. Yeah, RIP tick. Hobbs and Shaw. Oh my god, what a great segment on the boys we just recorded. Absolutely, Mason. All in all, whatever we said about it,
Starting point is 00:59:24 that holds true. We stand by it. Yeah. Because we just said it. Hobbs and. All in all, whatever we said about it, that holds true. We stand by it. Yeah. Because we just said it. Hobbs & Shaw, $60 million US opening, which is, it's okay. It seems okay. You've got to look at it this way, because Fate of the Furious, the last one made $98 million in its first weekend.
Starting point is 00:59:37 The best ever was Fast 7 with $147, but they were crushing it. They were hot off the back of Paul Walker's death. Oh, boy. That was flying high. I know that sounds very grim, but that's exactly what happened. Well, yeah, that's true. Because people are like, how is this going to work at all, if at all? And it does, for the most part.
Starting point is 00:59:55 It's also the lowest since Tokyo Drift. But also you've got to think about it's a spinoff and all those other things. That's true. Do people want to see Hobbs and or Shaw? Who knows? It depends, I guess, what you think the story was. Oh, no. All right.
Starting point is 01:00:09 Okay, this is a virus. Virus is going to kill everybody. Yep. Everybody's going to be dead and they won't be able to steal DVD players anymore because that's what this series has become. It started out, once again, people stealing DVD players. It was stealing DVD players,
Starting point is 01:00:25 then it was CGI cars racing nowhere to nothing, and then they went to Tokyo, and then they bought the original two back, but it was nothing, and then five was good. Is that the series? That's pretty much the series, yeah. But now there's a virus. They're going to destroy, kill everybody in the world,
Starting point is 01:00:40 if the bad guys get it. And who's going to stop them? Hobbs and Shaw, they're back. But they don't want to work together. They work different ways because one does a big punch and one does a series of smaller punches. That's their difference.
Starting point is 01:00:51 One's finesse. One's a big punch. They're both bald. They're both a couple of baldies. Most of the people in the Fast and Furious movies are bald. That's true. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:59 So they get their power. I think so. Opposite of Samson? Yep, exactly. Gotcha. Imagine if they all grew out their hair. I would love that. Exactly Gotcha Imagine if they all Grew out their hair I would love that Imagine if they all
Starting point is 01:01:07 Grew out their hair Oh my god Could somebody photoshop that And I don't mean Just put long hair on them What would balding men In their 40s to 50s All look like
Starting point is 01:01:16 Well we recently saw And we didn't mention We didn't mention it In the video When we recorded it We just saw the 2003 Italian job Which has Jason Statham
Starting point is 01:01:24 When he still had some hair. Yeah. He's done miracles for bald men. He really has. Yeah, because he's shaved it all off. He committed to it and he looks great. He does. He's got a head like an anvil.
Starting point is 01:01:35 He's got the... He's got the... He's got the... Wearing the turtleneck. He looks like a little eggy in an egg cup, you know? He does. He really does. Here's a question for you.
Starting point is 01:01:45 Yes. With Hobbs and Shaw, what are their jobs? What do they do? What do they mean? What are their skills again? Who does who work for? Okay, so I think Hobbs, who is the rock, he works for the DSS, which I think is like some sort of FBI situation.
Starting point is 01:02:02 Like it's some vague... But he also... He only investigates auto crimes, I guess. But maybe when he flexed his cast off in Furious 7, maybe he also quit that at the time. I don't know. Did he ever throw in his badge? He must have, right?
Starting point is 01:02:18 He must have thrown in his badge. I feel like he probably would have, yeah. He threw it at a desk and the desk snapped in half, comically. Yes. But now he works for the CIA. But he also went to prison oh yeah but what did he throw on his badge then yeah he did get exonerated that's how he escaped the prison he just threw his badge at the ground the prison collapsed so yeah so because i'm watching this i'm like i maybe i should have done some research but it took me a while to be like, who works for who and what? And sure, Statham used to be in the SAS and then he turned to crime, maybe?
Starting point is 01:02:55 He was doing crimes and killing people in one movie. He fought Vin Diesel with a wrench or something. Yeah. And then Vin Diesel stomped the car park and they all fell down. Let's work this out on air did he kill han or not yeah he did kill him but has that happened yet because tokyo that has happened yes so that was in the so when tokyo drift came out that was set in the future yes that future has come to pass since then that was the end of six okay no five here's the problem with these movies. Here's the problem. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:25 Is that each one of these movies introduces new characters that have a history with the main characters. Yeah. But we've never seen them before and they're never quite properly explained. This movie does it as well. But also, or have we? Exactly. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:39 This movie does it as well. They're like, okay, so I think this is in the trailer, but the villain of this piece is Brixton Law, played by Idris Elba, who has a dark past with one of the boys. He's also, again, playing a weirdly enhanced man, like in Star Trek. That's true, yeah. And this adds to his incredible list of... Being a weirdly enhanced man?
Starting point is 01:04:00 Weirdly enhanced man with a weirdly enhanced name. Yeah. So he's Brixton Law, he's been Striker Pentecost. Ohentecost oh yeah sure and law they didn't think about that even for a second oh that see that's the next that's the next team up sure and law sure and law well yeah who cares about spoilers in a way but there's a couple of cameos that you probably don't want to know going in and we won't spoil the ending where we'll talk about them later we'll talk about spoilers but yeah this movie i i read an article that said basically this movie was built
Starting point is 01:04:27 from the ground up to have spin-offs off the spin-off yeah and they're clearly this movie was clearly we're building the team for the next one
Starting point is 01:04:35 I felt that was a problem with this movie is it was it's less a movie on its own and more here's some people you're gonna see next time
Starting point is 01:04:42 aren't you excited for this yeah not really maybe some of them not all of them couple of them what you Or here's some people you're going to see next time. Aren't you excited for this? Yeah. Not really. Maybe. Some of them. Not all of them. A couple of them.
Starting point is 01:04:48 What? I thought it was fine. I don't think it's bad. I don't think it's the worst Fast and Furious movie because that's probably two. Yes. Maybe. I think it's two. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:05:05 But the best part of this is, for me, first of all, it's like 20 minutes too long. Okay. That's the best part for you? That's The best part of this Is for me First of all It's like 20 minutes too long Okay That's the best part for you? That's the best part Oh my In the movie In the theater You're like Oh my god
Starting point is 01:05:10 I'm loving this Everybody's checking their watch Looking at their phone You're like I'm needing to pee And you're like Oh my god This is so good
Starting point is 01:05:18 Sucked it everyone Just the bad boys too Not as bad But there's a final act But I also knew That was coming because the trailer reveals all of that. They all go to Samoa at the end or whatever for a big old punch up. But the action scenes are good for the most part, but I really like the Jason Statham, The Rock combination
Starting point is 01:05:37 of just yelling at each other. Well, here's the thing, though. I think you're right. There are some good individual scenes to this but i don't think cohesively it makes necessarily a great movie sure and i think i said this to you uh recently i i kept i watching i kept watching this expecting like the magic to take over like oh my god it's hobbs and sure it's the rock and statham and they're going to work together and it's going to be so much fun them just just teaming up. And for me, it never really was that much fun.
Starting point is 01:06:07 I think I enjoyed their team up in the last movie more, if that did happen in the last movie. Because they go to prison together, and they insult each other, and they're doing bicep curls with the stone bench or whatever in prison. Yeah. And then there's the baby bit. The baby bit is still the best bit. The baby bit is the best bit,
Starting point is 01:06:24 and I don't think anything in this movie lives up to that scene. I think there's some good stuff in this, though, because the director of this, David Leitch, who did John Wick, Deadpool 2, so he knows how to do action stuff, but I think it is a little CGI people standing on a CGI car. It's a little plasticky, I thought. In parts.
Starting point is 01:06:42 Yeah, well, okay, so there's an action sequence. There's a chase scene. Yep. Towards the start. And I remember it being pretty good, the first car chase in London or wherever it is. Yeah. What's the only thing you remember from it, though?
Starting point is 01:06:56 It's the bit where they go under the truck. It's in the trailer. Oh, where's that? When the car goes under the truck, the motorcycle goes under the truck. That's it. That's all I remember from it. Okay.
Starting point is 01:07:03 And that's not a real bit. Yeah. They didn and actually fling a car on a motorcycle okay i did not like idris alba's magic motorbike okay that could just so it could talk to and it could transform that's his night rider car yeah i saw his hot wings i saw his hot wings interview yeah if he said that in that even no he did okay yeah yeah But that's how they sold it to him. He's like, what am I doing in this? And they're like, it's, it's Knight Rider. Yeah. You're Knight Rider.
Starting point is 01:07:29 It's like, I hate Knight Rider. Like everybody hates Knight Rider, right? We know. You're going to do it or not. Yeah, fine. So you hated his magic motorcycle. Cause it's a weird shape changing motorcycle. I just don't think it fits in.
Starting point is 01:07:40 Isn't this supposed to be about real cars or something? This one is not about real cars. This one's about springy motorcycles and it's about the McLaren. It's about the McLaren. No, it is about the McLaren. We're driving a McLaren. Sometimes there's an old McLaren, is there, sometimes? No, there's only new McLarens.
Starting point is 01:07:56 Okay. But I don't know if we've ever seen this before in these movies, but you know how there's always, when somebody's really about to, like, put the hammer down and really peel off in their car yeah it's always like you see that mini mini montage of like steering wheel accelerator gear shift wheel spinning fast and then they go off this one has that it has gear change wheel spinning accelerator clutch mclaren logo yeah they put it in there yeah it's not even like spinning wheel and you can see the logo. No. It's just like. It's just McLaren. It should just be a guy going, McLaren.
Starting point is 01:08:29 Which fascinates me because this is obviously, and they're a cool car, obviously, but this branding is, and this marketing is, for people who are so rich, they can afford a McLaren, but they are so dumb that they can't look it up later they have to be told what it is in the movie it's the rich kids of instagram they can't google car in hobbs shore well i didn't know it was i couldn't tell you if it was a mclaren off the like that's only i'm not a cars guy so that's probably why you're more of a cars guy than me but i i knew there was a car right it could have said ford it could this could have said mitsubishi hatchback i don't i don't i don't know the car stunts in this i feel aren't as spectacular because they feel false a
Starting point is 01:09:12 lot of it yeah especially towards the end where they hook four together yeah seemingly by magic yes exactly yeah but yeah uh so idris elba um he's got a magic motor... That looked like a video game cut scene. Yeah, it really did. It really did, yeah. He's got a magic motorbike. He's got a magic spine that they zip up after they put his powers into him. They've got... He's got a magic heads-up display in his head. Yes.
Starting point is 01:09:34 That can see punches coming. Unless you rattle him on the back of the head. Yeah. And he also has missing some bottom teeth, because he's got metal teeth. And I think that's where Jason Statham once shot him through the head to kill him. Right. He was way off though.
Starting point is 01:09:48 He missed him by a lot. He's like, I shot him through the brain. No, you didn't. You shot him in the teeth. You're not as good as this as you think you are, Statham. But the most interesting thing
Starting point is 01:10:01 about this movie to me is the Wall Street Journal article that came as a result of it. Which we've got a video on this week. But where is that at? Do you want to explain that? So there was a Wall Street Journal article this week. We're very learned about the contractual obligations of famous movie actors in fistfights in movies.
Starting point is 01:10:24 In particular Fast and furious fast and furious where apparently they put in their contracts that they can only be beaten up in very like shown to be beaten up in very limited ways they can't lose fights in certain situations they can't be punched more than the other guy yeah it's embarrassing is what it is. The fights have to end in a stalemate. Yeah. Or whatever. And it's, yeah, it's, to me, it's the most interesting action heroes
Starting point is 01:10:52 aren't the ones where they draw at the end. No, absolutely not. Or they punch each other the exact same amount of times. Like, for example, Indiana Jones. He just, he mostly gets beaten up. Yeah, exactly. But the interesting thing is that he keeps coming back. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:11:05 It's the tenacity. Yeah. It's the John McClane before four. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah, exactly. Like the king of the modern day
Starting point is 01:11:14 action movie is the original John McClane. And in that first Die Hard he's just he's in a bad state from minute one. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:21 He's got no shoes. He doesn't have a proper shirt on. Do you reckon he's got a contract now where it's like, I have to wear shoes in every movie? I think his contract now is, I'll wear whatever clothes I was wearing when I came in
Starting point is 01:11:32 and I'll look directly into a camera and say the words and then I'll leave. No, I'll say whatever I want. And you can build a movie around that. He could just be like, I don't want to be here making this movie.
Starting point is 01:11:44 And then they've got to build a movie around it. What's it about a bank vault that's it yeah i think he's in a movie called safe isn't he probably but it might be about being safe sure well school safety yeah uh do you want to do spoilers sure hang on do we have anything else uh look i think there's some but and speaking of the vanessa kirby's great in this, I think. She is really good. And my favorite action scene is the first one with her. And the rock? That is good, actually. That one is really good.
Starting point is 01:12:10 But the bit where she steals the virus. Yeah, right. And then she gets in the truck. You've seen it. I have seen it. And she's really good. But apparently, and I can't remember who I heard this from. It might have been Charlie Clawson, but I don't know.
Starting point is 01:12:23 It's not in the article. This is separately. film clickbait. Yes, that Statham really liked one of her action scenes, so he went, I'm doing that one. Right. And I don't know what it is. He has some sort of veto power about it. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:12:36 I think there's a scene also in the trailer where they're in a corridor together and the Rock has to fight a big guy and Statham fights a bunch of regular sized guys. Because they've got to work to their strengths. One big punch, a series of little punches. That Because they've got to work to their strengths. One big punch. Series of little punches. That's true, actually. I think that scene is good. I mean, the choreography is good,
Starting point is 01:12:50 but that's more a fun scene than a spectacular action scene. It's more kind of humorous than it is. There is a lot of good stuff in this movie. I feel like I've been negative on it. But I think all in all, I did enjoy it. Look, I think so as well. But I think it needs a tweak so that it feels like these characters are more in peril okay again as it was as is in the trailer there's a scene where uh
Starting point is 01:13:14 uh bricks brixton lauren is henchman yeah they're they're leaping off a building yep and the rock just leaps up like they're the indestructible super cyber soldier is on a cable, so he doesn't die. Yeah. But the rock just leaps out of the building. And jumps man to man. Man to man, exactly. 50 feet at a time.
Starting point is 01:13:36 It's one of those universes where if you crash into a car roof, you may as well be on a trampoline. Right, exactly, yeah. You're fired. You're absolutely fine but that's like there's no and that's and i know that's these movies though and if it was if it was a superhero if it was captain america doing that i'd be like okay well he's gonna but even even that like if if captain america leaps leaps off a roof and he lands on his shield it's
Starting point is 01:13:59 an indestructible shield but it's still gonna Winter Soldier? And it's also a magic universe where it absorbs the whatever. But even he gets, a superhuman man, gets beaten up more than these guys do. And this allegedly is in a universe in a world of dangerous street racing. You know? Yeah, that's what it's about. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:14:17 They've got race wars. But nobody is... That's what they're called. Yeah, no, I remember. They have race wars. Yeah, I get it. But nobody is getting a scratch in these movies. They're getting the very superficial like little scuffs on their it. Yeah. But nobody is getting a scratch in these movies. They're getting the very superficial, like, little scuffs on their faces.
Starting point is 01:14:27 Yeah. You know? But I still think, all in all, I think it's a mostly good collection of action scenes and funny moments between Statham and The Rock and Statham's sister as well. I think it's good for the most part. Okay. I think you like the banter more than I did. That's probably true. But I think it like the banter more than I did that's probably true
Starting point is 01:14:45 but I think it's I don't know I think they need this movie needs some tweaks I don't know the sequel needs some tweaks
Starting point is 01:14:51 but it's more like I'm gonna hit your head so far up your bum your bum's gonna have a head in it like that's not no not that exactly those insults
Starting point is 01:15:01 maybe not as much but just their general interactions I enjoy yeah right okay that's true if that makes sense I'm gonna say
Starting point is 01:15:07 best movie ever yeah I'm gonna say best movie ever it's kind of grudging also there's the opening sequence is kind of like it's kind of like
Starting point is 01:15:15 it's a split screen as you see they're different lives as they wake up and like the rock gets up and he like he like cracks some eggs
Starting point is 01:15:22 in a glass and he just drinks a glass of eggs and Jason Statham this you know this oh my god he's such a and he just drinks a glass of eggs. And Jason Statham, this, you know, this, oh my God, he's such a rebel. He just makes a little omelette. I feel like that's a retcon.
Starting point is 01:15:34 Is that a retcon for that character? I thought he was like a grimy, like British thug. He's making omelettes in a clean cut apartment. Is that what he's always been? But that's the thing, like, that's not enough of a difference in their lives. Like he'd woken up and like you know and just glass of vodka like by the bedside or whatever just drink it from the bottle he pulls a beer yeah it's not the same is it it looks like it's like 10 a.m or whatever yeah you're right yeah and he wakes up also in that he wakes up with like a woman in the bed who we never see again
Starting point is 01:16:04 yeah doesn't make her an omelette rude that is true it's rude unless she's dead she might be dead that's a good point she might be dead
Starting point is 01:16:12 I'd factor that in maybe he is a bad boy after all yeah I think if you wanted to make this movie more realistic they would wake up
Starting point is 01:16:19 and the montage would just be the rock is in the gym for four hours yeah like that would be while Statham's being clean or whatever his character is about yeah oh yeah the rock's a family man in this i'm sure we probably do we know that his daughter encourages him to get out of hospital
Starting point is 01:16:34 and he breaks the cast yeah that's right okay whatever movie that's yeah cool cool he heals his arm through yeah right busting out of a cast all right let's do spoilers that's the last time he was injured i mean he's injured in this because they fight a Superman or whatever. Yeah, but vaguely. Yeah, vaguely. You're right, yeah. Spoilers. Ryan Reynolds is in this and so is Rob Delaney.
Starting point is 01:16:51 Both from Deadpool 2. Both directed by David Leitch. And I get the sense that... And again, we get this unexplored backstory between Ryan Reynolds and... Did you say all the way for the credits? Yep. There's a lot of post-credits stuff in this. I left at some point.
Starting point is 01:17:02 I googled it and went, yep, I read it. Okay, right, nice. Yeah, there's a lot of post-credits stuff in this. I left at some point. I googled it and went, yep, I read it. Okay, right. Yeah, there's a lot of unexplained backstory. And to some degree, I enjoy that. But I also... It's like you're opening a book halfway through. Exactly, yeah. And the next one, you know, the E.T. on, which is the corporation that wants to end the world and blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 01:17:22 There's a mysterious voice. And who is it? And it's just going to be some guy we don't know. Yeah. I think it's going to be, yeah, I don't think it's going to be, they'll get an actor. Yeah. Well, see, that's the thing.
Starting point is 01:17:32 They'll be like, it's fucking the Walter White guy or whatever. See, that's the problem with, and I guess that's the, what I was getting at earlier is that the reveal isn't plot based. It's just celebrity based. Yes. Like remember when they defeated Luke Evans at the end of 7 or 6, whichever one it was. It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:17:49 It doesn't matter. But at the end, they're like, but someone's out for revenge. It's Jason Statham. Yeah. It's not a character we knew from previously. Like, it wouldn't make any sense, but if it was revealed that the leader of this was Han, at least that would make sense because he'd be out for revenge.
Starting point is 01:18:05 Could be Luke Evans. Could it be Luke Evans? He's in a coma, so yes. He's like, I thought we were brothers. And he's like, I've got a new brother, this giant egg-shaped man. Is that Vin Diesel or The Rock I'm talking about? The voice goes, don't you remember me, Hobbes? So it's somebody from Hobbes' past.
Starting point is 01:18:22 It could be still Luke Evans. But then wouldn't it be like, don't you remember me, Hobbes? It's somebody from Hobbes' past. It could be still Luke Evans. I guess it could but then wouldn't it be like don't you remember me Hobbes? It's your mate's brother. It's me. It's your brother Shaw. Shaw it's me. I'm also a Shaw I guess. But you know and then it's like oh it's bloody Helen Mirren's in this or whatever so the next reveal is just going to be
Starting point is 01:18:38 it's another name actor. Yeah you're right. Which doesn't like if you could but that like you know when we talk you know because these are talk, you know, because these are way more in common with superhero movies now than they are. 100%. Racing movies or heist movies or whatever. It's barely a race war in size.
Starting point is 01:18:52 Exactly. But, like, if you think about Infinity War, they go to the planet to get the Soul Stone and the Red Skull's there. And we all go, oh, my God, it's, remember, from, like, 10 movies ago, remember the Red Skull kind of thing? But this is just like, yeah, it's going to be some guy. Yeah, it will be just some guy. I was trying to think who it's going to be.
Starting point is 01:19:12 Dave Bautista. Though he hates these movies. I think I tweeted, I hate these enough. I'll never be in one. Well, they'll give him $50 million. Yeah, they'll do it anyway. Anyway, Rob Delaney. See, that's the thing.
Starting point is 01:19:22 I feel like this is... Ronda Rousey. She was in these, but she fought someone else. Yeah, she fought... Yeah, she was in Seven. Yeah. Or Six. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:31 No, she was definitely in Seven. Maybe. Because she's the bodyguard in the building when they crashed the car in between. And that was Seven? That was Seven. Because I... Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:40 I believe the scenario, but I don't know what movie is what. Yeah, right. Okay. Yeah, so the thing about this movie is that they were clearly like, hey, you like Ryan Reynolds and the Rock teaming up? Bit of tease of that. Now let's do it in the next one. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:53 Also, Ryan Reynolds is an action guy in this as well. He's not just a potential. It seems like he kills a lot of people in the hallway. Did you stay for that? I saw the hallway bit. Yeah, okay, right. He's clearly beating up like 30 guys. So that's fun. That's pretty cool. That is pretty cool. He beats up, he's clearly beating up like 30 guys. Yeah. So that's fun.
Starting point is 01:20:05 That's pretty cool. That is pretty cool. He's just doing Deadpool, isn't he? Pretty much, yeah. That's fine though. If it's his strength, that's what he does. But I would like to see,
Starting point is 01:20:13 I think their name's a lock and lobe. Oh, those two. I like the Rob Delaney. Rob Delaney. Team them up. I'd see that movie. Yes, exactly. Yeah, definitely.
Starting point is 01:20:21 Because also they're normal sized men with normal sized heads. They're normal sizedsized men and they... Rob Delaney doesn't mind. He'll do anything. He'll do anything. He'll cop a punch for real. Definitely.
Starting point is 01:20:32 I did like that line where he said, I met Shaw before he beat me up in a bar, but he doesn't remember. Yeah, that was fun. I enjoyed that. Oh, and he's the Air Marshal. What's his name? Oh, yeah, Kevin Hart's in this. Kevin Hart's in this, yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:43 Who cares? Kevin Hart fans. I think he was more tolerable in this than in previous things that I've seen him in. Now, I went to the toilet during this movie, Mason. Okay. And I asked you this the other day, but Kevin Hart does get back on the... He does return, doesn't he, to give them the plane? He doesn't return in person.
Starting point is 01:21:00 They talk to him on the... Oh, yeah, they don't see him again in person. Yeah. He's in the bathroom and he's on the phone and he says like hey I'll get you those tickets to Samoa yeah because I knew
Starting point is 01:21:09 that was a good time to leave because I'm like oh they're just going to bring Kevin Hart back I can go to the toilet for this and I did yeah it's the staple of my movie going experience waiting for Kevin Hart
Starting point is 01:21:18 so he can go to the toilet yeah that's right you went to the toilet when Kevin Hart went to the toilet isn't that fun is that what he did yeah he was in the toilet I didn't say it because I was in the
Starting point is 01:21:26 Oh that's perfect That's serendipity right there Isn't it just? Yeah I like the bit where at the end When Brixton is defeated Brixton Baxton Whatever his name is
Starting point is 01:21:34 And the Rock's like We're going to use teamwork We're going to work as a team Yeah work as a team you dumbasses But he's like You may have a magic spine That they zip you up in your back with But we've got heart or whatever.
Starting point is 01:21:46 Okay. But also, they didn't factor that in. They weren't like, we'll make you the ultimate super soldier, but if two people fire you once, you are in trouble, mister. So if you can fight people in a line, old school. Because I guess, is he as durable as a regular man? He seems more durable. He's got those durable front teeth. But why is he more durable as a regular man? He seems more durable. I mean, he's got those durable front teeth.
Starting point is 01:22:06 But why is he more durable? Because of that spine. But not his bones are, are they? I don't know. Like, he's talking about, I'm the next step in whatever. Well, if he's more resilient than The Rock and Jason Statham, he's completely in strife. Tell me you want to be the first augmented man.
Starting point is 01:22:22 That would be terrible. It really would. It's like if you had now the first iPhone. It'd be garbage. Well, you got the first one and you're restricted to it forever. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Oh, wow, yeah. That's probably true.
Starting point is 01:22:33 When I was a kid, I always wanted, like, you know, the bionic arms and all that sort of stuff. And all the cyborg whatevers. But now, these days, I'm like, they'd be filled with, like, ads. Definitely. You'd have to have an always-on internet service. So you'd be driving and you'd go through a tunnel in your arms and stop working because the signal stopped. You'd be like, oh, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:22:52 And you'd forget to like, your credit card would expire and then you'd wake up and you'd have ads running in your eyes. Yeah, absolutely. Or you'd be dead. You'd be dead. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:01 You'd just die. Anyway, it's a movie. They made it, didn't they? They sure did. You know what it's time for? They made it, didn't they? They sure did. You know what it's time for? What's it time for? What are we reading? Oh, what are we going to read?
Starting point is 01:23:09 I'm doing a thing. What are we reading today? You're never going to believe what I watched, Mason. What did you watch? I watched Jumper from 2008. Why did you do that? It was just on streaming. And I needed something to watch while I edited
Starting point is 01:23:25 and it's good man it's fine it's like Hayden Christensen is not a good actor in this or the Star Wars movies but he's a good actor
Starting point is 01:23:34 in other things like what things? I feel like I ask every time every single time Hayden Christensen but it's it's pretty fun
Starting point is 01:23:42 it's a fun premise of a guy who can... Everyone's seen Jumper. Why did I hate Jumper at the time? Did I hate Jumper at the time? Because it's not very good. Oh, right.
Starting point is 01:23:51 But it's worth watching on streaming. It's got Samuel L. Jackson as a guy who hates jumpers. Netflix... Billy Elliot's in it. He's really fun in it. Netflix taking things that I want to watch off Netflix, update. Yeah. Before...
Starting point is 01:24:02 I sat down in Hobbs and Shaw and I went went oh you know what i'm gonna re-watch fast eight when i get home so i went to the netflix app on my phone and i looked and i searched for fast eight and was in there it's the first result yeah and then i went home and it was gone like they took it away like it's like they knew i was watching why would you take them down now they took all the fast and Furious movies off. Why would you do it? There's a new one coming out. People are going to watch them.
Starting point is 01:24:29 But I think that's why people... If I watched four in a row, I would not... And I didn't have to. I wouldn't see the new one. Would you? Would you? But I don't think that's how it works. But I also think that these movies are based on people getting fired up for Fast and Furious.
Starting point is 01:24:43 I don't know. But they all blend together, don't they? I guess they probably do. I mean, I won't know because they're not on there anymore, so I can't check. What am I going to do? Pay for a Fast and Furious movie? I don't think so. Unlikely.
Starting point is 01:24:54 What are you reading? I started watching, there's a new season of Dear White People on Netflix. I've never seen that. Is it good? It's a good show. It's a good show, man. What would you give it out of 110? I'm laughing and I'm learning.
Starting point is 01:25:04 Out of 110? Yeah. 105. Wow, that's really good. Pretty good, man. What would you give it out of 110? I'm laughing and I'm learning. Out of 110, 105. Wow, that's really good. Pretty good, man. What does it fall down? I don't want to know what you like about it. I want to know about the very specific things you don't. I mean, some shows just aren't 110, are they? Yeah, I think maybe the recap didn't cover everything that happened prior,
Starting point is 01:25:24 so I was a little bit lost. That's five points? Yeah, that's five points. Out of 110. That's not so bad. Whoever put that together, you should be fired. Maybe I'm rating the... Okay, maybe 110 for the show.
Starting point is 01:25:34 Okay. Zero for the recap. No, 80 for the recap. It was a pretty solid recap. Okay. It's still 30 short is what I'm saying. Yeah. Well, those are the things we're reading, isn't it?
Starting point is 01:25:43 I mean, you know, I have a podcast all about things that I was looking at. It's called Suggestible. You're not in it. Intriguing. You can come along. Oh, yeah. You should come on it, Mason. I will.
Starting point is 01:25:52 Are you busy? Well, I haven't read or seen anything recently. You record Wednesdays? Yeah. Wednesday day or Wednesday night? It doesn't matter, Mason. You don't have to be on it. You can just...
Starting point is 01:26:01 Just live my life? You can just live your life. I guess I could just listen to it. Yeah. And then I could give my opinions to you in person later. You can just tell me what you're doing when I'm reading. Yeah, that's true, yeah. I might just delve into my comics, because I also like to
Starting point is 01:26:11 do a comic every week. There's a new Jimmy Olsen, the first issue of Jimmy Olsen. Oh, I haven't read it yet. Fantastic. I'm excited for that, because I love Jimmy Olsen. Because that's Matt Fraction, right? Yes. Excellent. I read House of X. Oh, yeah. There's a new... So this is Jonathan Hickman. Yeah. Who is kind of the... I don't know. He did a great Fantastic Four run a few years ago. Yes. That was super yeah. There's a new... So this is Jonathan Hickman. Yeah. Who is kind of the... I don't know.
Starting point is 01:26:25 He did a great Fantastic Four run a few years ago. Yes. That was super good. He's a big ideas man. A lot of that I'm like, I don't know. I haven't read any X-Men in so long. So like Professor X is maybe also Cerebro or something. He's wearing a big dumb helmet with an X.
Starting point is 01:26:40 There's been a lot of changes recently that I cannot recall. But I still enjoyed it. Yeah. I mean, a lot of characters have died and come back. Yeah. Cyclops was leading some sort of mutant rebellion for a while, and then he died, and I think he's back now as well. That's right.
Starting point is 01:26:52 But this one is the new mutant status quo, but then it's also 100 years in the future, or 1,000 years in the future? All of that is entirely possible. Okay, then. Or impossible. Okay, right. Also, the Batman who laughs wraps up
Starting point is 01:27:04 where Batman gets injected with the serum that turns him into the evil Joker Batman. Yeah, right. And that wraps up issue seven. I think it's a pretty bloody solid run on a Batman who's slowly losing his sanity, who has to fight a guy who is like the result of what will happen when the virus fully kicks in. I see. And it's also a result of all that, you know, that Batman, there's too many Batmans in all the different dimensions.
Starting point is 01:27:28 Dark Knight's Metal, yeah. Yeah. But it's less confusing. Okay, good. So you only really need to know the Grim Knight, who's Batman with guns. Yeah. He's the Punisher and the Batman who laughs,
Starting point is 01:27:38 who's the Joker Batman. That's it. They were kind of not my favourite versions of those Batmans, so it's interesting. What did you like? Which ones did you like? I can't remember. Yeah, that's good.
Starting point is 01:27:47 They've also immediately disappeared out of my brain, so they can't have been that memorable. Such wonderful characters. Maybe a Batman, but he's also, he has an ice cream van. Maybe he's a duck. He's Duckman. What are we reading? Are we most?
Starting point is 01:28:00 No, the next one? The letters? I'll do letters, yeah. The letters we're reading? Yes. It's loading. The classic one was letters, I'll do letters, yeah. The letters we're reading? Yes. It's loading. The classic one was Letters, oh letters We love you
Starting point is 01:28:08 Some letters They're only A day away They're here right now We're going to do letters. Side note before I forget, a friend of the show, Fergal Quigley,
Starting point is 01:28:19 finally created the number one Party Boy Nick Mason t-shirt. Finally. So that's on my Instagram. Excellent. If you want to track that down, that's a real thing you can buy. Purchase a copy of.
Starting point is 01:28:27 To go with the James I'm fine question mark t-shirt. What a combination. Oh, my God. You'll be the hit of a party. Go to a party. And by that I mean you'll have to explain it. Every time. And people will be like, what?
Starting point is 01:28:38 Oh, my God. The perfect couple's costume, let me tell you. Just your regular selves with t-shirts with two guys nobody else knows ah so good if you do want to reach the show hashtag weekly planet pod on twitter or weekly planet pod at gmail.com shoot a bloody gmail over on your bloody email or gmail to mason's gmail and he'll answer those gmails i don't have one yet but i'll find one while you're doing that i can do this from adam i thought this would be an interesting one for you because you read a lot of comics when you were a kid. But my four-year-old is getting very interested in my comics.
Starting point is 01:29:10 What is some age-appropriate, if any, ones that I can read to him? Any Marvel or DC arcs or one-shots appropriate? I can't think of any. Hashtag weekly planet. Is that from Adam? Yes. Because this is also from Adam. He says, my son is five and becoming very curious
Starting point is 01:29:23 about my Marvel Comics collection. So maybe he's at a birthday. Going on. Or is he a fake kid? That's the question. This sounds like somebody who just wants to read a bunch of kids' comics. That's what I think myself. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:34 But no, that's an interesting age because comics are... I do storybooks with my kid. There's Marvel storybooks and Star Wars storybooks, which I... He just gravitates towards them. I don't like... I get given them and he finds them on the shelf and he's like, today he brought me the golden book version of Star Wars Attack of the Clones.
Starting point is 01:29:51 And I'm like, this is the worst one. What did he bring me this for? Yeah, wow. I yelled at him for 45 minutes, basically. Incredible. So you went easy on him because normally that would go longer. What did you read when you were a kid, though? Were you reading Archie and Garfield? What did you read? Oh, that kid though do you read nachi and garfield and
Starting point is 01:30:05 what do you read for your reading question for your reading comprehension is not great yeah no that's true i mean it needs to be read you need to be read too yeah right i don't think i was read any i don't think any comics were read to me as a child i think i just jumped straight in yeah and i and i think again my first the first comic i ever read I think it was a Spider-Man where the Hobgoblin was introduced so that was pretty grim
Starting point is 01:30:30 that's confusing yeah the front cover is the Spider-Man costume being torn in twain by the Hobgoblin oh Hobgoblin
Starting point is 01:30:36 he has to sew that back up I know right and also a really really confusing Superman comic book which was like
Starting point is 01:30:43 10 Superman stories none of which one of which had superman in it but it was it was increasingly superman story set increasingly further into the future oh like like thousands of years and i didn't even know who superman was at the time was that a good comic though like by today's standards who did that one i can't remember yeah that's not mel and more one is it no no i remember you talking about that yeah it was like an anthology and the one in the very far future can't get into the fortress of solitude because no that's a different thing okay yeah yeah that's a different thing you didn't let me finish because okay fair enough uh yeah so i'd say story story books but um i remember i read
Starting point is 01:31:19 one a while back there's a chewbacker like few it's like four issue run and people don't consider it a great Star Wars comic but I think it's also because it's about Chewbacca and he rescues like a kid and like a bunch of orphans and stuff yeah right
Starting point is 01:31:31 and people are like it's a crap Star Wars comic or whatever but I think it first of all I don't think it's crap but also I think it works well as a kids comic
Starting point is 01:31:38 like a little you know kids know and like Chewbacca it's like a little Chewbacca adventure so it's like it's in the new run of Star Wars comics yeah right like whatever it's called I'll quickly find it Marvel do have like a little Chewbacca adventure. So it's like, it's in the new run of Star Wars comics.
Starting point is 01:31:45 Yeah, right. Like whatever it's called. I'll quickly find it. Marvel do have like a very, I think it only comes out every once in a while, but it's like a Marvel, it's like Marvel Junior Adventures or something like that.
Starting point is 01:31:55 And they're kind of like little Marvel superheroes kind of thing. And they're very kind of simple storylines. Maybe they're- Like Muppet Babies. Yeah, well, not really, because they're like,
Starting point is 01:32:03 they're like, they're like little in scale but they go on regular adventures okay they're like little they're just like little little sized versions okay cool yeah that's i read one when i was on andrew levin's podcast series yeah right i read one of those and they're kind of good they're kind of fun and they're kind of like i'll try and think of the name and i'll tweet it out if i remember but it's kind of like and they're kind of built like you know, like old school comic books where they have like, they also have like little mazes and little fun things to do. And it's kind of like a nod and a wink to the parents, but it's also like fun stories for the kids.
Starting point is 01:32:34 Oh, cool. Yeah. I think when I was a kid, I did read like Richie Rich comics and stuff like that. Yeah. Very simple. I read a lot of Garfield when I was a kid. Yeah. A lot of snake tales.
Starting point is 01:32:43 Sure. If you want to see a snake with boobs Snake Tales is the comic for you yep Foothrod Flats yeah I read a lot of that as well
Starting point is 01:32:51 yeah what a world what a world we live in for good Oriole mostly mostly yeah yeah so I just brought
Starting point is 01:32:59 that comic up and it is it's called Star Wars Chewbacca it's by Jerry Duggan and art by Phil Noto oh I think he's doing the current Star Wars run though I might be wrong but he's done a bunch of called Star Wars Chewbacca it's by Jerry Duggan and art by Phil Noto I think he's doing the current Star Wars run
Starting point is 01:33:07 though I might be wrong but he's done a bunch of other Star Wars stuff here's an email from Aaron ask James if he saw the cow in the movie Twister what? no
Starting point is 01:33:16 I didn't what? it's intriguing should I re-watch it? yeah you should I think the baby will say it yeah this is from Colton
Starting point is 01:33:24 Col Nutter. Good name. Hot scoop or shot of poop about Lord of the Rings Amazon show. Okay. Edinburgh in Scotland has had announcements in the paper preparing them for a big Amazon show filming there that is also called for extras. Consensus is it's the Lord of the Rings show.
Starting point is 01:33:38 Do we know that already? I don't think. I don't believe so. I just assumed it was going to be in New Zealand. There you go. Might be in Scotland. Wasn't there some weird New Zealand filming rights thing that happened or pay disputes and unions and shit?
Starting point is 01:33:50 That is correct, yes. Lindsay Alice did the Hobbit video on it. The video on it, yeah, yeah, yeah, sure. So it's probably... Maybe New Zealand is out. Maybe they're like never again. That's interesting. Did you see that trailer for the Lord of the Rings TV series,
Starting point is 01:34:02 but it was more like the creators involved with it and they go through the entire team? Nope. It's a really good team and I can't name any of them off the Lord of the Rings TV series? But it was more like the creators involved with it and they go through the entire team. Nope. It's a really good team and I can't name any of them off the top of my head, but there's some really good creative people behind it and I think it could be something pretty good or whatever. But good maybe.
Starting point is 01:34:16 It's off to a good start. I still don't know whether it's connected to the movies or not. I think it might be. But also... Tom Bombadil. This is an email from Michaelael bosmarov uh it says nearly died listening to you talk about people nearly dying we get one of these like a month no but this is an extra layer okay this is a real that wasn't that wasn't a like a like a like shut
Starting point is 01:34:35 up michael this is a real inception or 10 10 situation okay uh july 20th this year i had a major car accident while listening to your show from june 20th 2018 i I had a major car accident While listening to your show From June 20th 2018 I crashed into a deer While you were reading a letter About near death experiences A listener had While listening to your show My wife and I are okay
Starting point is 01:34:52 So all is good Needless to say You lads are indeed cursed Well yeah We're cursed through this podcast By a gypsy or whatever Whatever the thing we said In episode three
Starting point is 01:35:01 Okay but the question is Can we get another layer? Oh, somebody listening to this having an accident. Hacks having an accident. Could that happen? But you don't want like a death? No. Okay, good.
Starting point is 01:35:12 It has to be a funny accident. Okay. If you have a tragic accident, we don't write in? We don't want to know? I mean, it'd work. I mean, it'd certainly- It would confirm the theory. It would certainly confirm the theory, wouldn't it?
Starting point is 01:35:23 So maybe just send us an email and say not for publication. Yeah, fair point. Then we'll know. I've got a tweet here from Yosef. Oh, he is? He says, would you like to see an episode of Marvel's new What If series where Tony Stark dies from the initial shrapnel blast? No Iron Man, no Avengers, and the villains stay their course.
Starting point is 01:35:44 Because who's left in the universe? You've still got space stuff, though, don't you? That's true. Most of the Earth villains wouldn't exist. Except Hydra, I guess. That's a good question. What would happen, I think, is that at the start of the Avengers, when Loki is in Berlin or whatever it is,
Starting point is 01:36:03 since there'd be no Iron Man to jump down and blast him, he would incinerate Captain America. And then the movie would end. Yeah, then the movie would end. Also, like, Obadiah Stane would just run a corrupt company selling weapons. That's true, yep. He might even be Hydra.
Starting point is 01:36:18 That's true. We just don't know because he died in a big robot suit. That's true. There was a big explosion. A big blue explosion. But he might have some sort of profit-sharing arrangement with the rest of the Stark employees, and therefore Mysterio wouldn't...
Starting point is 01:36:28 Exactly. Can we spoil that? Let's not. Yeah, okay. Sure. Let's not. Yeah, maybe it'll be a big old happy company,
Starting point is 01:36:35 and everybody's... I think there's still... Yeah, I think it'd be interesting to see what would happen regardless of him. Yeah. Because I think there's still a lot of stuff, but he did a lot of bad stuff. There'd be no whiplash, because there nobody no he wouldn't come back on tiny stark
Starting point is 01:36:48 there'd be all that arc reactor technology wouldn't really exist yeah would killian still be building those extremist soldiers i actually he'd probably still because he created him before yeah so yes yeah i mean the arc reactor does exist but it's not a miniaturized version that's true yeah yeah yeah and it was more like a like a fun thing that he built for fun wasn't it yeah I guess that's true
Starting point is 01:37:09 than like an actual yeah no one would think to shrink it down and put it in a war suit a lot of emails asking us what we think of the boys well we told you what we thought of them
Starting point is 01:37:17 yeah back up alright back up I'll get my boys on you you know my mate Connors he'll come and get you mate don't worry yeah
Starting point is 01:37:24 he's huge isn't he, Mason? Crush your head. Like one of the boys. Yeah. This is from Isaac Brunton. Yes. He enjoys the podcast. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 01:37:33 Thank you very much. I also travel a lot and recently found myself listening to the pod up at 5,000 metres in Iran on a mountaineering trip. Oh, yeah. And here's a photo. Could be anyone anywhere. Anyone anywhere. Could be anyone, anywhere.
Starting point is 01:37:49 Where's the picture of the... I mean, he's probably taken a photo. Those clothes could be stuffed with newspaper. It's true. There might not be a man in there at all. That's true, yeah. Do you see any skin there? Nope. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:57 Could be a still from Star Wars 9. We don't know. We don't know. Do you think that's what it is? It's definitely that. This is some leaked footage. Okay, yeah. Could very well be. Negative 25 degrees know. Do you think that's what it is? It's definitely that. This is some leaked footage. Okay, yeah. It could very well be.
Starting point is 01:38:05 Negative 25 degrees Celsius. Brutal. That's the show though, isn't it, Mason? Yes, it is. Bring us home, Country Road. Thank you, everybody, for listening to the podcast. We bloody appreciate it. Thank you, everybody, for subscribing and telling a friend.
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Starting point is 01:40:01 Next week, Mason, what is it? I don't know. Do you want to do maybe some Tarantino stuff? Sure. That's not here till the 15th. Yeah, we don't get that for a few weeks. But next week, maybe we do Reservoir Dogs, Reservar Dogs, Reserv Man, Metal Dogs, and Pulp Fiction, maybe. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:18 Rewatch those. What do you reckon? Okay, pretty good. Work our way up to Death Proof. I understand. We are skipping Death Proof. What? I think we should rewatch Death Proof. No, I know. We'll do Death Proof. I know. Should we watch Death Proof I understand we are skipping Death Proof what? I think we should re-watch Death Proof
Starting point is 01:40:25 I know we'll do Death Proof should we watch Death Proof and Planet Terror or just Death Proof? well we're in a bit of a predicament I think in the numbers leading up because I think Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction
Starting point is 01:40:34 go together very well yep Jackie Brown which I've never seen but then I think the next is like the two Kill Bill movies so we've got to do like Jackie Brown
Starting point is 01:40:42 and maybe Death Proof together yeah yeah and then we do Kill Bill or some variation on that. Okay. All right. You know, that's depending if this podcast lasts that long. We might be cancelled. You know what I mean?
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