The Weekly Planet - 297 Reservoir Dogs & Pulp Fiction

Episode Date: August 12, 2019

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Shooting up your butt hole. The Weekly Planet. The Weekly Planet. Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of The Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James Wilson and as Mr. Sunday with me as always is my co-host Nick Mason. You've got a song in your voice this week James. I gave you a week off me having some kind of physical or mental breakdown. Good for you. Is that because we didn't have to go out and watch a movie at the cinema?

That's very possible. I feel maybe that's entirely possible. I feel like that can crumble your entire week. Regardless whether it's go to just a regular cinema or go to some sort of media screening, it doesn't matter what it is. You'll be like, oh. Because a lot of the time, not a lot of the time, some of the time, a lot of the time, it's a movie that I wouldn't bother to see unless it came out.

Like a Fast and Furious. Like I liked that one, whatever that one was last week. I of the time. It's a movie that I wouldn't bother to see unless it came out. Like a Fast and Furious. Like I liked that one, whatever that one was last week. I liked it enough. It was good. Yeah. But I wouldn't have gone to see that if this wasn't a requirement of me. Would you have gone to see that? Yes, because I love all pop culture things.

Wow. That's right. One of us is certainly more savvy than the other or doesn't have a child, Mason. You wouldn't even know what it's like. Oh my God. Anyway, The Hunt. Did you see the trailer for that? No, but I saw one still image of, what's her name?

She's from GLOW. GLOW, yeah, her. Betty Gilpin. Oh, okay, very good. It's rich people be hunting poor people or whatever. But isn't the twist that they are rich left-wing people or something? I have no idea. I think that might be.

I think the twist is that they are, because you, look, I mean, that's not a twist unless you make the assumption that it's always like stuffy conservative people who are also hunting the poor or whatever. Like the purge and whatever. Right, but I think this, I think the premise of this is they're rich liberals hunting poor right-wing people, I think. What a twist.

That is a twist. Anyway, it's not coming out anymore. PC gone mad. No, it's not. Universal Pictures have paused the marketing campaign after thoughtful consideration. The studio has decided to cancel our plans to release the film. This is their statement, et cetera and so forth.

Understand that it's not the right time to release this film. This is obviously off the back of two, and I think there's something like 250 deaths as a result of shootings in the US just this year alone, which is quite a lot. The thing about this is I was probably not going to see this and I do not care about this movie. Will I ever see it? Will it ever come out?

I do not know. It seems like it exists in a similar vein to movies like The Purge, of which I am like, well, I could probably see one of those if it's on stream, but I'll never actually get to it. Yeah. Some of them are fine, I think, from the ones I've seen. And maybe there's a TV show that's out at the moment. It's a prequel. Or is there? It's neither here nor there.

This is clearly, like, the idea of the shootings, and it's been very high-profile in the media, that certain organisations and politicians have been blaming the violent culture of video games and movies. Well, they got them all out of Walmart. They got all the video games out of Walmart, so that's going to solve the problem. Which is absolute horseshit, obviously.

And there's a lot of people who listen who, you know, gun rights and et cetera and so forth. Good on you. Fill your bloody boots, mate. But obviously's a lot of people who listen who, you know, gun rights and et cetera and so forth. Good on you. Fill your bloody boots, mate. But obviously there's something that needs to be changed, but I don't think it's this. It's not censoring movies and it's not getting rid of video games out of a department store.

Yeah, that's it. And look, you know, no society is perfect, obviously, but there are countries like Australia. You can still get a gun here. They're not banned. I think a lot of people don't realize that. Like, I have friends who have guns. It's not uncommon.

But there are limitations on certain weapons. There's common sense limitations. Yes. You can't get a 100-round drum magazine and just shoot it in your backyard. No, unless you want to do it illegally. Oh, yeah, you can probably do that illegally. But anyway, so that's where we're at. I don't know.

I think anybody can agree whatever side of this debate that you fall on it's not video games and movies right correct yes i think any like obviously people with certain mental conditions which i think is also a factor in these obviously in these situations you can be influenced by these things but i think that's a small subset of people and it's also a small factor in a larger combination of factors oh absolutely right but anyway what do we know about anything i was gonna say we are very veering dangerously close i was gonna say to things we don't know anything about we don't know anything about anything we're veering way out into the into the into the void of things we know nothing about i don't know just for me and it's maybe because i've been a teacher the idea that somebody can take a gun and run into a school

and kill 20 kids is just fucking incomprehensible to me. Absolutely. Yeah. So that's just, that's where I'm at. This is the point where I'm like, we should have a politics podcast where we just rail about politics. And I'm like, nobody wants to hear that.

No. People hate it when we get political, Mason. That's true. But some people don't mind it either. Yeah. Yeah. That's where we're at. Yeah.

Australia, you can just take your kids to school. Yeah, that's it. You just go to work. Also, I'm not not i know there's still a culture of what people say well what about stabbings and whatever and yes there is there's still violence in australia but again to me it comes down to you can't shoot 20 kids in a matter of seconds that's true yeah it's much harder to stab 20 kids is what i'm saying yeah yeah i mean you get close enough to them and they like because the thing about teens is they like, they'll find your biggest vulnerability and they'll just say it at you before you can stab him like, oh, no. Oh, I am concerned of losing my hair. Here's some other news though.

Netflix has confirmed. To be clear, I'm not concerned about losing my hair. It's always looked like this. Well, Mason, that sounds like you're concerned. It sounds like you have great hair. Thank you. Netflix has confirmed that the Emmy award winning duo of David Benioff and D.B. Weiss

Oh, the big boys, D.B. The GeoTibros. The original GeoTibros. They've signed an overall deal to develop new films and shows for the streaming service. Netflix I've heard of netflix yeah uh is it a nine figure deal i have something like 200 million yeah that's what i heard yeah okay uh what does this mean for star wars what does this mean for other things does

this mean we're gonna get a half finished star wars movie in theaters yeah they're gonna be like oh yeah we look we did a movie in a half yeah and're going to move to Netflix, so see you later, idiots. Okay, so this guy, we were going to make him evil in the end, but we're just going to do it here. Yeah. All right, so. Yeah. There's foreshadowing or whatever.

You can fill in the blanks, right? Well, what this means is there's now. It's the destination and not the journey is what we're saying. Yes, absolutely. This means that there's now $200 million worth of potential movie and TV projects that are not going to get funded by Netflix so that these guys can do their thing. Yeah. So that's great, isn't it?

Yeah, it certainly is. Yeah. I think people are kind of forgetting that these guys are obviously not without talent because most of Game of Thrones is quite good. They're very talented at adapting somebody else's work. Yes. And obviously it got to the point where they went off book and then that became a problem i think it more became a problem in with the last season than seasons before well i don't think even off book was the problem i think it was that they i'm sure they were given the broad strokes of where is this

series gonna go and they went okay well we'll we'll do that but we just we'll pack it into you know one season six Six episodes, eight episodes. What was it? Six episodes. Eight episodes. Six or eight episodes. Six to eight episodes. Six to eight episodes.

That was six, but it was somewhere like an hour and a half. And it's sort of, again, something that didn't occur to me at the time when we watched the last season is they could have just given the series to another producer. Yes. They could have just been like, well, we have to go and do Star Wars,

but we trust X producer or, like, our subordinate, who we're now going to make the new producer or whatever. But they were like... We're bringing in another GOT bro or sis into the fold. Exactly. Yeah. It's all about family, you know? I know.

I know it's about family. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. But they were like, no, no, we want our legacy. We want to be the sole owners of this series. And then we want to have our cake and eat it too. We want to jump straight to Star Wars. Yeah, absolutely.

Now, good on them. But it does make me wonder. I mean, obviously you can have multiple things in development, but giving somebody $200 million or whatever to develop a series of things for Netflix, including films and TV shows. Where does that leave this Star Wars trilogy that they were doing? I don't know what's happening with Star Wars. D23's coming up.

Does that mean there's no Star Wars news? No, there will be Star Wars news. Oh, go on. At the very least, Star Wars Episode IX news. But then after that. No, I mean this week. No, there's not this week, actually. Hang on.

No, I think you're right. But there's going to be very soon. And we are still talking about it. I'm going to savour this. I'm going to savour this. I'm going to savour this like a delightful Hello Fresh meal. Simmering under a medium heat, no Star Wars news. Yeah, I'm curious though how this affects Star Wars. Because they've talked about these guys are doing a trilogy,

but I wonder off Game of Thrones maybe. They're not doing a trilogy. What's the Rian Johnson trilogy? Yeah, right. Who knows what any trilogies are? Trilogies, you know? I know, absolutely. I know about trilogies.

Don't worry about it. Yeah, that's the thing. Like what would cause them to do that? Do they have the power in Hollywood to be like, okay, we've got to do some Netflix stuff, so we're going to postpone Star Wars. Yeah. Do they have that power? Or does no one on Earth have that power, I wonder?

That's a good question. Surely not. Surely nobody can be like, we're going to move Star Wars two years into the future. Yeah, no, you're right. People would find out where they lived and kill them. I know it was the opposite for J.J. Abrams because when he went back to Star Wars, he had a deal with Paramount where he was developing or directing nine pictures, something like that.

Right, okay. And he ended up, they either bought him out or they let him out in good faith or something so he could go to Star Wars because he's not not going to do that. You know what I mean? Yeah, okay. And he ended up, they either bought him out or they let him out in good faith or something so he could go do Star Wars. Because he's not not going to do that. You know what I mean? Yeah, right. So I don't know whether he's going to circle back around to that at the end, but essentially he broke his contract to go back and do another Star Wars.

Yeah. But what are you going to say to him? Because he's J.J. Abrams. You know what I mean? He can kind of make his own call. Except for the time when he wrote a Superman movie and they were going to give it to McG instead of him. Oh, McG.

Anyway, that's Star Wars news for this week, Mason. What's J.J. Abrams... Like, I know he's been behind a lot of popular movies. Yeah. But what's the drawcard of a J.J. Abrams? You know what I mean? I think... What brings people into cinemas?

I think the idea behind his work is... I think he gets a lot of flack, and we've talked about this, because he replicates a style as opposed to like a Spielberg-esque whatever. Do you know what I mean? He can kind of get down to the core of what makes something what it is

without deviating too far from it. Not that I'm saying I don't like his work. No, I know what you're saying. I mean, mystery, obviously. Yeah, mystery boxes, sure. The modern version of Mission Impossible that we're getting is really, that's a result of J.J. Abrams. That's what he did in 3.

He's meddling. He's meddling. No, he fixed that. It was crap and he fixed it. You saw 2. I saw 2, yes. It's the best hair, but that's all. We never stopped talking about 2.

We talked about it before the show. We talked about Mission Impossible 2 before the show started. There's some things we'll never get away from. It's Mission Impossible 2, Batman v Superman. And our wonderful sponsors, Casper Mattresses and HelloFresh. Exactly. You are not wrong. I guess he's also like a workhorse director.

But also, look at his films, though. They're mostly good. That's true. You know what I mean? Yeah. Star Trek. Yeah. I never saw that coming.

Like a lot of the big budget films, they're not very good, are they? That's true. know what i mean yeah star trek yeah i mean i realized that i never i never saw that coming like a lot of the the big budget films they're they're not very good are they or like or middling most of them are like middling i would say that's true yeah you know and most of his are pretty beyond solid here's a follow-up question then sure why did i initially thought i hate him so much because there is that kind of like here's a nostalgia or whatever and and he and i guess it's lost. It is lost, yeah. He's never, I guess, finished something. Like he asks a lot of questions and then kind of goes, good luck, everybody. And then other people kind of have to deal with.

I even liked Alias. Remember Alias? I know you liked Alias. Did that wrap up well? I can't remember. Jennifer Garnier. Yes, exactly. I think it descended into.

Did you ever do a Garnier product? You must have. Maybe. I'll look that up while you're saying what you're saying. Okay. It started out as a spy show and then it descended into, again, Mystery Box Madness. There was sort of a... Oh, no.

A mysterious Leonardo da Vinci inventor. Yeah. Like in the distant past who created all these incredible inventions and the goal of the villain was to collect all these inventions. Yes. And I can't remember that wound up wait there was a lena dicaprio thing not lena cap sorry i was looking up jennifer garnier you're looking at jennifer garnier yeah she was associated with the brand in 2007 why am i doing this i don't

know the thing that you said though so they find a dossier it's like when somebody's like oh here we go i've just thought of ryan gosay. Now let's see if I'm the first person on the internet to come up. Oh, 150,000 results. Okay, right. All right, all right. So there was a Da Vinci element too. Yeah. I didn't know that.

The character's name was Rimbaldi. It was kind of this Renaissance era inventor, and he came up with all these amazing technological innovations. And the villain, who was Jennifer Garnier's boss was trying to collect... Did you mean to say Garnier? Yes, I did. Okay, good. Or maybe I didn't.

But I might have inceptioned you. Oh, no. Was trying to get all these inventions. I can't remember what the ultimate... I'd imagine it'd be mostly catapults, though, wouldn't it? It was catapults and immortality. It was an immortality catapult. What you do is you put yourself in the catapult,

and you'd slice the string. And if you survived going over the rampant wall, you became immortal. Really? Yeah. And obviously you'd scream, I'm going to live forever. Exactly. That's true. Great.

Sounds like a really good show. But if you didn't say it with conviction, splat. Splat. I get you. Yeah. What else we got here? More news, obviously. Oh, yeah.

I love news. Sony Spider-Man live action series. You know Sony? Yes. You know Spider-Man? Mm-. You know Sony. Yes. You know Spider-Man. Apparently they're developing... Side note, I love it when you go to Netflix and you search for something and they've just got a placeholder of something that's coming up

but it hasn't been... They haven't given it a proper name. Oh, right, yes. It's like, Fast and the Furious animated racer show. And you're like, all right, let's put that on the list. Here we go. I love it when you go to search for something and it gives you the exact name of the thing that you're like, all right, let's put that on the list. Here we go. I love it when you go to search for something and it gives you the exact name of the thing that you're after,

but then it just gives you, did you mean the other things that we have instead of that? Absolutely not. No, I was looking for Pulp Fiction. I wanted Pulp Fiction. All right? Pulp Fiction's on stand. It's on stand.

Yeah, figure that out. Didn't pay for either of them, Mason. But Reservoir Dogs is on Netflix. That's right, yeah. Anyway. Don't make it bloody easy, do they? That's right. Chris Miller, who worked on the Spider-Verse thing,

he says, we're developing a handful of live action shows using Marvel's Sony characters of the likes of which there are like 900. We're figuring out a way to develop the show so each of them has their own unique experience but are also related. Live action is a different universe, Mason. And for television, often can be not good. Correct, yes.

Especially Spider-Man stuff. Disagree. Name a single episode of the 1970s Spider-Man series that wasn't good. The one we watched. The only one that we watched. Night of the Clones. Yeah, that was bad. Apparently that guy's in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.

I heard that, yeah. And he's very good. Which we're seeing next week. Come along, everybody, if you want. We'll tell you what screening we're going to. Join us. Yes. I'm not doing the screening. It's tomorrow night, I think, isn't it? I don't know. Yeah, it is, if you want. We'll tell you what screening we're going to. Join us. Yes. I'm not doing

the screening. It's tomorrow night, I think, isn't it? I don't know. Yeah, it is. Do you want to go?

I might be at work. Okay. Okay. Then I'll go. Good. Good. Take one for the

team. Yeah, apparently they want to do something that's not like anything else that's been done on television. So there you go.

Where is this going? Are Sony bringing out a streaming service or whatever? Who knows? I don't know. a streaming service or whatever? Who knows? I don't know. Probably not, I guess. Who knows?

Maybe it's going to Disney or Hulu and all those ones. I don't know. Look, if I were the owner of a multi-billion dollar entertainment conglomerate. Well, you will be one day because your dad is Bob Iger. Thank you. And he's got to die some way. Fingers crossed. He looks pretty healthy, though.

Healthier than you. God damn it, dad. I would probably wait and see which of these streaming services survives the cull in the next few years before I was like, yeah, let's do our own. What's the worst that could happen? Committing billions of dollars. Exactly. That's exactly it. Did you see the list this week about the most money that which platforms spend on whatevs?

No. Netflix is something like the average was. Was it a BuzzFeed? It was like what they spend on shows. Okay, right. What money is the most things be spent on that? On whatevs? No. Netflix is something like the average was... Was it a BuzzFeed? It was like what they spend on shows. Okay, right. What money is... The most things

be spent on that. Spend on whatevs? Yeah. Kendall Jenner. You throw that in the title or whatever. You get your clicks. But Netflix was somewhere

in the middle, like $10 million per show. Okay. But Disney Plus was like $24 million. So Disney Plus is by far the most expensive. So people think...

And you can see that in some of the Netflix shows. It's like, this is mostly one corridor, isn't it?vil it's true yeah you know what i mean yeah we only see his daredevil vision like once in his world of fire yeah well i remember the world of fire yeah yeah anyway spider-man right well it sounds like they're trying to price everybody else out of the market they're like okay if we do if we do a run of shows where everything costs 50 million dollars we're gonna nail this. I think they bundled ESPN and Hulu and Disney Plus together

for like $14 or something like that. That's pretty good. And Disney itself is only like $6 or $7. Huh. So they're clearly aiming for that look what you get for a low price when Netflix is like $13 or $14 or whatever it is, depending where you are in the world. Anyway, Mason, Star Wars news.

Just kidding. That would have been good stuff though. I know, right? Especially if there is Star Wars news. Yeah, that's right. I can't see what you're doing on your laptop over there. So if I were you, I would have been in the last couple of minutes just like furiously looking for anything new Star Wars related.

Yeah, you're right. I should be doing that. Adam Driver's got a new haircut and I would have been like, ah! He'll never get a new haircut. His haircut's perfect. Why would he change it? Absolutely. It's ridiculous. He's even whiter than before. He's so wide. He's so wide. He's even whiter. Well, both.

He could be both. He could definitely be both. As women, our life stages come with unique risk factors like high blood pressure developed during pregnancy, which can put us two times more at risk of heart disease or stroke. Know your risks. Visit heartandstroke.ca. What have we got here, Mason?

So, The Joker, that film that's coming out. Oh, yes. They reckon it's going to have an opening of $60 to $90 million. Tracking on a film is an absolute shit show, so this doesn't mean out. Oh, yes. They reckon it's going to have an opening of $60 to $90 million. Tracking on a film is an absolute shit show. So this doesn't mean anything, bear in mind, okay? Dan Merle does a good thing on Screen Junkies where he talks about, it's now Fandom Entertainment, they've changed.

He does a weekly box office wrap-up and he talks about this always. When they talk about how a movie underperforms, often it's just in relation to what was predicted, but the statistics and how they predict things is just wildly inaccurate. Right, okay. So often when it's just in relation to what was predicted but the the statistics and how they predict things is just wildly inaccurate right okay so often when it's like it's underperformed it's like yeah but did it because what was it ever going to do exactly so it's it's underperformed relative to this more or less randomly assigned figure we've given to it yeah exactly so if it's

like this we thought this was going to make 450 million dollars and i only made 400 million dollars well where'd the 450450 million figure come from? Yeah, exactly. Out of our asses, basically. Out of our bloody asses, mate. Not bloody. You know what I'm talking about. Yeah, I get it.

But let's say it does make those numbers. It will beat Shazam and Aquaman, which Shazam made $53 million. Opening weekend, Aquaman made $67 million. Also, Joker's only got a $55 million budget because it was mostly grease paint. That's where it all went 53. Opening weekend, Aquaman made 67. Also, Joker's only got a $55 million budget because it was mostly grease paint. That's where it all went to. Sure, yeah.

Grease paint and underpants. Big briefs. Yeah, big briefs. But they probably second-handed those briefs. I bet they saved a buck or two there, didn't they? Yep. Yeah. For sure, yeah.

Who's got a pair of dirty briefs? Any of the crew? We just need a pair of dirty loose briefs. It's all right, Wacky's just going to dance around in them for a bit and then we'll give them back so don't worry about it

so it's going to be out October 4th see the Joker in his dirty briefs do you think it's going to do well yeah I do at least initially apparently it's amazing

alright we actually did a movie a Caravan of Garbage movie which we're going to save for a little bit we won't spoil it here Mason but let's just say I already spoiled it on here, Mason, but let's just say... I already spoiled it on Instagram.

Okay, you did too. Let's just say it's Return of the Joker, the Batman Beyond Animated Series. But let's just leave it at that. Okay, let's leave it at that. Let's give no more clues. Yeah, well, I maybe want to do Batman 89 or Phantasm before then as well. Refresh my memory. Did Shazam do well?

Not overly. Yeah, right. It did okay, but I think off the back of all the other DC movies not doing... Yeah, right. Like, they kind of steadily... off the back of all the other DC movies not doing... Yeah, right. Like, they kind of steadily... Like, it peaked at Wonder Woman. Yep. And then it just kind of...

Yeah. No, Aquaman did very well. What am I talking about? Right. Yeah. Uh-huh. But I guess maybe the buzz behind Shazam wasn't as... Also, people were like, what is...

Who is this? Look, I feel, and I'm always wrong about this sort of stuff, but I feel like who's clamoring for this mishmash Scorsese crime film? I think it's... Todd Phillips joke situation. I think a lot of people. Okay. If you look at like...

The general public? Yeah. I think if you look at... And I think it's also R-rated, which I think is... Ooh. Which means... Tantalizing. If these numbers be true...

Yes. Then that's incredible for an R-rated film. Oh, that's a lot of... That's a lot of for an R-rated film. Okay, right. Yeah. And if it can beat like Shazam or Aquaman. I mean, Aquaman stayed longer because it made a billion in the end.

But yeah, I don't know. Look, I'll stake my non-existent reputation on this not doing well initially. I think maybe a little build. If it's good, I think maybe word will get around that it's good and people will come to it. But I don't see fans of Scorsese or fans of crime dramas. Or fans of Todd Phillips? Exactly, going like, yeah, the Joker, I'm on board with that.

I think it's going to... I think the opposite, if anything. I think it's going to do really well initially. All right. And if it's good, it will stay good. Well, so it's October, so it's got a bit of a clear window. Oh, yeah. This is another fucking...

No Halloween sequel on the way. No, or Men in Black movie. There might be another one in this year. Yeah, right. News on the Crisis on Infinite Earth crossover, Mason. Oh, yes, on the way. No, or Men in Black movie. There might be another one of them this year. Yeah, right. News on the Crisis on Infinite Earth crossover, Mason. Oh, yes, on the CW. Kevin Conroy has been added to the cast, who, of course, is the voice of Bruce Wayne slash Batman

in Batman the Animated Series and everything up to the Arkham games. Not everything. Sometimes there's a different guy, and I'm like, what? No. Some of them are good. That's true. But he's probably the best. Still, anyway, he's going to be live-action Bruce Wayne.

I know we talked about it last week. Did we? Yep we yep there was a set photo did we really talk about this yeah anyway so he's still doing it okay it's hot off the press oh you know we talked about it when we did batman beyond when we did oh okay i was gonna say did we talk about it yeah but yeah there was a there's a stock did you just give away that we did batman beyond mason no you literally said it minutes ago what are you doing i'll do anything i'm a real something agent of chaos, something something the Joker. Absolutely. That's a little buzz for the Joker there. That's a little free promo for the Joker.

Oh, he's got big wide briefs that he's dancing about. Mm-hmm. Yeah, okay. So we haven't talked about it. We haven't talked about it. Okay, right. But we're talking about it now. Chronologically, we have talked about it.

Yeah, okay. In our real lives, we have, in fact, talked about it. But yes, he talking chronologically we we have talked about it yeah okay in our real lives we have in fact talked about it but yes looks yeah he's got ace the bat hand with him great it's not quite how i mean that's the thing like kevin conroy does look like a comic book character yeah but not necessarily about i think if you put him a bit in a big enough like suit yeah i think it's fine yeah for sure you're gonna ben affleck the hair and he's gonna do the voice exactly he going to do the voice and presumably he's like a little bit older and whatever. And that photo also has, you can see in that one production photo we've seen, there is a glass case with a Batman Beyond suit in it. Ah, terrifico.

And fantastic. I mean, Terry McGinnis? Maybe. We don't know yet. I mean, you know, again, because this is a parallel dimension from a parallel dimension. It could be a universe in which Terry McGinnis was the future Batman and he died or something, and that's why the suit is in the case. Or it could be pre-Terry McGinnis because Batman did wear that before. Yeah, that's true.

There you go. That's good. That is good. Do you reckon they're going to get Mark Hamill? Good question. As the Joker? Yes. Well, he could do the trickster again.

He could do the trickster, exactly. That's true. It wouldn't surprise me. Yes. Or as the... Well, he could do the trickster again or whatever. He could do the trickster, exactly. That's true. Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me if he did. Maybe. I would say, yeah. He seems like a good sport who would probably do something like that. Yeah. But also, I imagine, you know, because he's doing Star Wars.

Yeah. What kind of red tape does that involve? But if he's in it for like a minute, like it'd be probably easier to get him for it or whatever. That's true, yeah. He could just be in an asylum or whatever. Yeah. And be like, there he is.

That's true. There he is over there. Do you see him? Mm-hmm. That's true, yeah. He could just be in an asylum or whatever. Yeah. And be like, there he is. That's true. There he is over there. Do you see him? That's him, yeah. Somebody could open an email attachment. It's just footage of him waving. There he is. There he is.

Yeah. It's a big brief. There's no photos existing of the Joker. We got this photo of Mark Hamill waving. He looks quite similar, we're told. I guess they could do that. I don't know. Have you seen that short of Mark Hamill gets kidnapped by the Joker,

the animated one, the actor Mark Hamill? Yes, and the trickster is also in that, I think. Yeah, I believe so, yeah. Also, I read that Michael Rosenbaum is not going to be in this CW crossover. Did you say he was going to be, though? I think there were rumours he was going to be as an alternate Lex Luthor. Did you say Tom Welling? Yeah, Tom Welling was also, I think, maybe confirmed,

and then that was confirmed to be not true. Interesting. So a double confirmed. There could be some surprises, though, Mason. You never know. But apparently Michael Rosenbaum was, because he's got a podcast, and I think he was asked about it, and he's like, well, they've not called me.

Oh, there you go. And also, he'd have to shave his head again. No, he did ball cap for the last episode of Smallville. Good for him. There's a Snake Eyes movie in the works You know that It's a G.I. Joe spin off of those movies that they made Yep G.I. Joe 2009 and G.I. Joe Rise of Cobra

Perfect time And the perfect protagonist A guy that doesn't talk And we've never seen his face How relatable It's going to be The audience is just going to be people Who refuse to take their motorcycle helmets off

When they go to a bank That sounds bad. Yep. So I guess it's the opposite of Deadpool. Imagine someone who doesn't wisecrack. Unless it's an origin story, because he talked before. Oh, that's true. The helicopter accident.

Before his mouth got replaced with the snake eyes. Exactly. That's right. Or he got snake eyes in a game of dice, craps, and they took his mouth. Is that what happened? No, what happened is that he was like this decorated military veteran. Sure. And somebody got the DVD of the Nicolas Cage movie Snake Eyes

and shoved it in his face, and then he lost the ability to talk. What's that got to do with the decorated military veteran thing? You could have taken that out, don't you think? I guess I could. He was just a regular guy. Nicolas Cage DVD. Okay, gotcha. Anyway, that's in the works,

but there's another G.I. Joe ensemble piece which is also happening. This is fascinating, considering did the last two do well? I don't know. Okay, great. Not ensemble piece, which is also happening. This is fascinating, considering... Yes. Did the last two do well? I don't know. Okay, great. Not super well, I'd imagine. Yeah. Because they didn't make one immediately after.

Also, did you see the last one with The Rock, where he played... Hawk or Duke, maybe? No, I think Duke is... No, Duke is Channing Tatum. Uh-huh. And... Roadblock. He was Roadblock. And Bruce Willis played the original Joe

Anyway, we know it's going to include chuckles And I asked you before the show And I need you to know, Mason If you can tell me if this is true Is he known for his undercover and infiltration work? He's known for that And also the fact that the best method of being undercover Is wearing a really loud Hawaiian shirt at all times

That's his undercover outfit Just to clarify This was a show that was popular in the 80s, is that correct? That's correct, yes. Yeah, well, you would have been undercover there,

wouldn't you? Yeah, I guess that's true. Everyone was Miami Vice-ing it. Yeah. Everyone was Don Johnson-ing it. That's true, yeah. Everyone was the one with the waves or whatever.

What's that show called? Hawaii Five-O-Wings. Oh, okay, right. Yeah, the one with the waves. That was in the 80s. Was it? That was the 60s. Was it really?

Yeah, and then they did a remake like a couple of years ago. Yeah, I knew that. There was really no Hawaii Five-O in the 80s. I don't think so. What as. Was it really? Yeah, and then they did a remake like a couple of years ago. Yeah, I knew that. There was really no Hawaii Five-0 in the 80s. I don't think so. What a world. Anyway, chuckles. Who are they going to get for chuckles?

Are you excited for it? No. No, not at all. The Hawaii Five-0 1980s cast. There you go. Oh, really? There you go. Who was the star of that?

Oh, no, it went from 68 to 80, so I just made it in. There you go. Okay, good. All right. I nearly looked like an idiot. 68 to 80? It's only 12 years. Yeah so I just made it in. Okay, good. All right. I nearly looked like an idiot. 68 to 80? It's only 12 years. Yeah, I guess that's true.

MASH ran for like, MASH is still running. It's true, yeah. It's called like, are we trapped in purgatory? What is this now? That's true. I was just in the Korean War go for like three years. Oh my God, so many helicopters arriving. They're always arriving.

There's so many wounded. Where are they coming from? MASH ran for 12 No 11 or 13 years And the Korean War Went for like 3 Or something like that Okay

I guess it's the Crossing over of multiple decades That got me there Yes definitely 68 to 80 does sound insane It's like somebody Who was born in like 1899 And they died in 2000

You're like Yeah right What the hell That shouldn't have happened There you go G.I. Joe They're probably I hope they

Do Transformers and whatever Do you think it's going to be The same continuity Or do you think it's going to be A rebooted continuity Follow up question for you Yes Do you think it matters

I don't think it I don't think it'll matter Box office wise But I would rather It be a new continuity Yeah I'd rather it be like You'd rather it be more More like. Yeah. I'd rather it be like. You'd rather it be more like the action figure line.

Yeah. Why not? Yes. Many points of articulation. Yeah. You want like the different outfits. Because if they've got in the first movie. Yeah.

Which I've talked about before, but I quite like that because I hadn't seen a movie in like a year because I was living in Africa. Yeah, right. And then the first movie I watched on the plane was G.I. Joe, Rise of the Cobra. And I'm like, this is the fucking best movie I've ever seen. Wow. And have you re-watched it since then?

No, of course I haven't. Oh my God. Because it's not, obviously. Yeah, exactly. There was a tap, like it had a sensor in the bathroom and I'm like, oh my goodness. It was like, what the world? I thought you meant in the movie.

You focused on it. You kept re-watching the scene where like Duke washes his hands in the bathroom and you're like, oh my God, he's doing it. He's really doing it. Yeah, I guess you want to keep it as a plain movie forever. Just like a movie I watched when I was... We'll watch it again for Carrier and a Garbage. Okay, all right.

Look, I would kind of like it to lean more heavily toward... Yeah, you're right. Because the last couple of movies, it was just... Generic army dudes? Generic army dudes, more or less, and also... And snake eyes. And snake eyes and weird power suits and stuff like that. Yeah.

Look, I don't entirely hate those movies, but I should. Yeah, you're right, you should. I don't remember liking the last one very much at all, except for the bit where they're swinging on ropes on the side of the mountain. I'm like, holy hell, is this good? See, I feel that part was the most out of the comic books. Yes.

The G.I. Joe comic books had this real ninja phase for a few years, and that's some Primo stuff right up the nose. Primo Megimo. That's what I say. What else have we got here? So Variety's Brett Lang. No idea who that is. He's got a scoop.

Okay, I'm ready. I'm just crediting. We're doing some crediting, mate. All right, cool. Do you mind not bespirching Brett Lang's name? All right, all right, all right. From sources, he says, there's debates whether Deadpool can move seamlessly

from R-rated solo outings and PG-13 MCU movies. Disney posted a hundred... Oh, that's the next bit of news. So basically, can they do... Oh my God, Disney posted a hundred of what? A hundred severed heads. Oh my God. Click to see of what? 100 severed heads. Oh my god. Click to see if you're one of them.

Click. Oh man. No wonder all this blood's squirting from the stump of my neck. So I guess the question is, can you make, can you PG-13 Deadpool? And I believe that you can absolutely you can because most of the comics are i guess yeah that's not most a lot are and i think you can you can kind of make a meta joke of it when he's playing with other characters and then you put him in his own armory exactly yeah yeah i think if you that character works outside of

being pg-13 it's not like spawn where it like, he has to be this particular person. Exactly. And I mean, you know, if you restrict him to action sequences, there's not much that you see in the Deadpool movies that you don't really see in the rest of the MCU. Yeah, just a bit more kind of blood spouts. People getting shot in the groin maybe. Yeah. You know? Exactly.

Yeah. But there are some hard hits in the MCU movies. I think it also could be fun, like presumably they did with that Christmas cut of Deadpool 2, where he's aware that he is in a PG-13 Marvel movie. For sure, yeah. And everyone else is like, who is this lunatic? And I feel that's kind of a staple or has been a staple of Marvel Comics for years.

It's a character who is aware that they are in a comic book and everybody else thinks they're insane. And again, it's not going to be the Avengers and and daredevil and they all get a you know the avengers get an hour of screen time and he gets an hour of screen time kind of thing it'll be it'll be part of a team movie and he'll get him and rocket will have some banter exactly he'll get 15 20 minutes yeah and he can nod at the audience you know there'll be there'll be a hundred percent be a scene where he's by himself and he'll give like a nod and a wink to the audience. Definitely. Good.

Also, Disney posted 107 heads. But in addition to that, there was $170 million operating loss for its fiscal third quarter, largely due to the $250 million worldwide gross. Gross is the word, Mason. Of Dark Phoenix. Got him. Oh, yeah. So, yeah. So, a lot of the Fox properties that they have inherited and then released are bad and not doing well.

I understand. So I don't think this matters at this point. Disney are like $8 billion up this year or something. Exactly. Anyway, which has never been done before. Yeah. I mean, if they consume all their competition and some of the stuff they release from that competition is no good, they've still bought all the competition.

That's right, exactly. So what are you going to do, watch a different movie? Yeah, what are you going to do? Probably watch a Disney movie. Yeah, you'll have to, won't you? Yeah. So there you go. One more bit of news, Mason.

Disney Plus is getting some reboots. Oh, yes. See, we're hearing so much Disney Plus. Put it out. Put your bloody Disney Plus out, Disney. November. Oh, yes. See, we're hearing so much Disney Plus. Put it out. Put your bloody Disney Plus out, Disney. November. Oh, okay. Yeah.

It's coming. You've thought of everything, haven't you? Me? You've always got an answer, don't you? Well, I try to be informed. That's true. I don't mean that to be a bad thing. I'm deeply offended.

This includes Cheaper by the Dozen, Night at the Museum, Diary of a Wimpy Kid, and Home Alone, which is relevant to us, I guess, because Macaulay Culkin, it seems, the real-life actor person, has been watching Caravan of Garbage. That's fun. Which is very fun and nice of him to shout us out on Twitter and such, but I think it was just Twitter. Just Twitter, but yeah. People have said, can he come on the show? Absolutely.

If he wants to. If he wants to. If he wants to, he can come along. If he wants to fly us to his place where he lives in France. Yep. Does he live in France? I think he might do, or he did for a while. Okay. If he wants us to fly us to the south of France and do his podcast, we'll go to his podcast.

And we'll have him on our podcast also. Yes, that's right. Anyway, this is never going to happen. That's what we're saying. Yeah, what's he going to say? If he wants to come to suburban Melbourne in the dead of winter and fight his way through the rain. What a weird scenario, though.

Because if someone had told me as a kid, people know him. He's one of the most famous people in the world. James, if somebody said to you that in the future you'd be making videos for the internet on pop culture entertainment... Via some kind of electronic mail platform. Exactly. And that Macaulay Culkin, star of the Home Alone and Richie Rich movies, was watching those and said that he enjoyed them,

you would look at yourself in a mirror and you would take both of your hands and you would slap them on the sides of your face and you would scream in delight and pain. That's right. As if you'd put on some aftershave on your face and the alcoholic content was stingy to you. That's how you would feel.

I could see how that would be a scenario that would play out. That's right. I don't use an aftershave like that with alcohol in it. It's not good for your skin. Don't be doing that, all right? Get a soothing balm. Get a balm. Okay.

Oh, my God. Two ads in a row. You ready for them both? Yeah. Or do I break them up separately? No, put them together. I agree. One big lump.

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I feel like I'm selling it more. No, that's really good. i think that's what they want you have everything you need to get a wow worthy dinner on the table in just about 30 minutes i don't like cooking any more than that because then it feels like a burden a chore really does and i don't want that exactly and by that point you're like oh my god i could have just ordered a pizza that's really horrible for me i'd be here by now oh my god what was i thinking? It's 32 minutes. Oh my God, this is a nightmare. Exactly.

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in a mushroom sauce served over truffled risotto. Oh, Mr Fancy Man, wow. But it was so easy to prepare, Mason. You didn't even have to get your trained pigs to go out and find the truffles. No. Hello Fresh has got the trained pigs to find the truffles i gave them the night off that's right yeah and i made them a delicious risotto pigs love it pigs love risotto it's true yeah it's whole wet rice that's what they like but what makes it easy about cooking a meal like that is it

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Yes. All right, Mason, next week we are doing, once upon a time, it's Hollywood in the 60 the show, I think. Yes. All right, Mason. Next week we are doing Once Upon a Time. It's Hollywood in the 60s. Oh, yes. Brad Pitt. He's got abs still. How does he do it? I don't know.

We're doing Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. Brad Pitt is, for some reason, Leonardo DiCaprio's stuntman. That is weird, isn't it? Even though, by any objective measure, he's way more handsome. And maybe a better actor. Is he? Let's find out next week. Anyway, this came out like two weeks ago in the US.

It hasn't been out here or the UK, so we cannot talk about it as of yet. But we did think and continue to thought that we could talk about some Quentin Tarantino movies, basically. Do you want to start the entire sentence again or no? Why would I need to? Good point. What you're going to do is you're going to go later You're going to re-record that sentence so it's perfect And then put it in there and I'm going to look like an idiot

So we thought we'd talk about his two first cinematic major motion picture releases 1992's Reservoir Dogs Some say the best independent movie of all time Yes, and then 1994's Pulp Fiction Some say a movie of all time Yeah, that's true These are some very rude movies. They're rude movies.

Well, it's interesting because I haven't... Spoilers also. Yeah, exactly. And watch them, would you say? I haven't seen these. I haven't seen either of these in quite some time. Yeah, I reckon I haven't seen Pulp Fiction in like, not Pulp Fiction, Reservoir Dogs in maybe 20 years.

Yeah, right. Which means I'm real old. It's true. It's interesting to watch these uh in the context of knowing a little bit more about film production or like cinematography techniques or even just knowing more about quentin tarantino or the actors in the movie like in this one i'm like wonder how long till we see some women's feet in this movie i wonder how long we're gonna it's gonna happen there's not a hell there's not a hell of a lot is there there's not a lot i mean in pulp fiction well i mean in reservoir dogs

there's no women yeah there's one woman there's the woman that shoots tim roth yes as he tries to carjacker yeah but in pulp fiction uh when uh vick well when um vince of vega goes to uh get his heroin yeah there's like some high-heeled shoes just on the wall. Sure. It's just like, and then the first appearance of Umin Thurman is Mia Wallace. You see her feet first. Yes.

Feet first and then pan up. Yeah, that's right. But again, like it's that thing of like, well now because Quentin Tarantino was alleged to have a foot fetish, I'm looking out for that. Like your brain fills in the gaps. I'm like, oh. I've kind of forgotten that.

Yeah, right. The thing is, I just want to clarify this. Also, this is just going to be foot talk. Yeah, it's mostly foot. I'm not a foot guy. I'm not against them. But I think there are way worse things that you could be. Oh, yeah, of course.

It's fine. I think it's just a human foot. It's funny more than it is anything else. Yeah, exactly. I'm not here to kink shame anyone. Yeah, that's it. Do you like feet or don't like feet? Do you have feet?

Get on you. Get out of here. Get on those feet. Yeah. Be getting out of here. Get on those feet. Be getting out of here. I guess we'll go Reservoir Dogs first, but we'll jump around a bit, obviously. For sure. The opening dialogue scene of that movie is like the most Tarantino thing I think I've ever... I kind of vaguely remembered it where they're talking about what like a virgin means or whatever.

Yeah, right. And I'm like, this is fucking rough. Now it is anyway. Because it's so... I like this movie, I should fucking rough. Now it is anyway. Because it's so... I like this movie, I should point out. Yeah, for sure. I like both of those. But it's so clever and like...

Well, yeah. What I think we also do is if you haven't seen a movie like this in a long time and, you know, it's widely regarded as a classic and you have fond memories of it, I think your brain sort of romanticizes certain elements of these movies and kind of streamlines them. And I remember that conversation being kind of much more casual kind of streamlines them. And I remember that conversation being kind of much more casual and smooth than it is.

But again, it's kind of, you know, it's some... It feels like a theatre production almost. It does feel kind of like a... It does kind of feel theatre-y, yeah. And it's Quentin Tarantino's character, who's Mr Brown, explaining what he thinks or what he's been told the song Like a Virgin is about. And it does fit.

I feel like a lot of these characters, I'm like, that's just a thing that Quentin Tarantino thinks about a thing. Well, I mean, apparently, according to him, his writing process is he hears a lot of conversations and he sees a lot of things. And they all sort of percolate in his brain. And then when he gets down to writing stuff, it all comes out fully formed.

Yeah, I can see that. And what I like about his process, as he explains it, is that he doesn't... Know where it's going, is that right? Yeah, and he won't necessarily know... He won't write dialogue for a scene necessarily. He'll take a character and say, well, what would this character say?

And then what would this character say? Yeah, right. And then what would this character say in reply? And he'll build the conversation that way kind of thing. He won't come up with a series of funny lines for them to say. I guess that's why a lot of this feels more natural. Yeah. Yeah, they're not kind of big performances, I guess, for the most part. Does that make sense?

Yeah. I think this did change a lot of things for the better and the worse if you're bad at this kind of thing. Right. You know what I mean? Because there's a lot of people emulating this style, which doesn't really seem to work as well. The movie Go, presumably.

Okay, right. Which I haven't seen in a long time. Do you think this opening scene helps or hinders the tipping industry? Because they talk about how the Steve Buscemi character, Mr. Pink. Mr. Pink doesn't tip. I'm just going to call him by the actor's name. Okay, right. He's Mr. Pink, don't worry.

And because of the result of because they earn minimum, they already earn a wage and he doesn't want to contribute to the idea that he should have to supplement the wage of people when it should be the government. I think it definitely emboldens people who don't tip in the first place. They'll be like, remember the cool crime guy who said it? They're all wearing suits. Mr. Crime said it, remember that? Yeah. Nah, just put it in. first place. They'd be like, you remember the cool crime guy who said it? They're all wearing suits. Mr. Crime said it.

Remember that? Yeah. Nah, just put it in. Just tip. Just tip, mate. Yeah. Yeah. So I do wonder what the result of that was

because apparently there was a bit of backlash of kind of like, these are people, people rely on this money. And he's like, anybody can be a waitress. Don't even worry. It's not even a difficult job.

Why should we give the borrower that? Right, right, right. I just wondered what the kind of fallout of that would be. All I know is that it had a 20% increase in the number of Mini Coopers sold. Oh, really? No, actually, I'm thinking of the Italian job. Which one? The remake.

Interesting. We did a caravan of garbage on that, didn't we, Mason? That's true, yeah. How do you feel about, in Reservoir Dogs, the scene Harvey Keitel and Tim Roth, Mr. Orange, they escape and Mr. Orange has been shot. And he's crying and wailing. And he's really just hammering that American accent that maybe he hasn't quite perfected yet. Yeah, sure. Maybe there is a big performance in this.

Mr. White and Mr. Orange. It is harder to kind of scream in an accent. That's true, yeah. That's what they say. I was just thinking the whole time, how is this guy not dead? Like the amount of blood that comes out of that bloke and when he's lying on the floor in the... Apparently, though, they had a paramedic on set

to make sure that it was a realistic amount of blood. Okay, right. Sorry, but there you go. Well, I was going to say, I saw Pulp Fiction first and then I saw Reservoir Dogs maybe a year later. And I think if I'd gone into Reservoir Dogs not knowing that it was widely regarded as a cult classic, and I'd had the pedigree of Quentin Tarantino Pulp Fiction behind it,

I think I would have seen that opening sequence in the car and been like, I'm not watching this. He's like, I'm dying, man. He's like, I'm dying, man. He's like a Muppet in the backseat. Big rubbery mouth. I can't believe she shot me, man. You know what I'm talking about? I know exactly what you're talking about.

I think that, see, I felt the opposite though. And maybe it's because I know it's a Quentin Tarantino movie, but I thought it was a really compelling, like it's just dudes chatting away in a cafe, whatever, and then there's a 40-minute opening credits. And then there's just, he's being shot at what happened. Yeah, for sure. I mean, I think that is, that's Tarantino's great strength

in these first couple of movies, is that he has told these, he tells these stories, you know, non-linearly and you never get lost at any point. Especially with Pulp Fiction, which is all over the place. Absolutely it is. It's not like they go, okay, here's the past, here's the present, here's the past, here's the present. It's just, okay, here's the end of the movie and then here's several days ago and here's...

And this character who was dead, now we're going to do 30 minutes on that character before they died or whatever yeah yeah i think i think it's a testament especially in pulp fiction that they you never get lost you know i thought was interesting about this one as well i didn't i didn't really remember like the similarities between this and the hateful eight because hateful eight is also mostly set in one location like reservoir dogs reservoir dogs probably got more cutting back and forth to various things but it's again it's like it's like a stage play you know yeah right it's like this one location it's mostly just dialogue there's a traitor in there they're trying to figure out who the traitor is i think there's a there's a lot in

common between those two movies and i think hateful eight maybe would have been a direct kind of effort to get back to that kind of simple storytelling it's still it's not that simple is it it's quite there's yeah there's a lot of flashbacks whatever but i think you're right in simple storytelling. It's still not that simple, is it? There's a lot of flashbacks and whatever. But I think you're right in that prior to that he'd done Kill Bill, two huge movies. He'd done Death Proof and he'd also done Inglourious Basterds,

which is, you know... It's mostly linear, I want to say. Well, it is, but it's also, you know, that's a huge production. Yes. To take a guy who's normally like, yeah, okay, contemporary Los Angeles and it's some guys in suits and they have a shootout, but now that's a huge production. Yes. You know, to take a guy who's normally like, yeah, okay, contemporary Los Angeles, and it's some guys in suits, and they have a shootout,

but now here's World War II. Some of it's black and white, I guess. Here's World War II. Yeah. You know, that can't be... Yeah, I didn't think about that. I imagine, you know... It was Django after that.

Oh, yeah, it was too. No, you're right. It was, no. Yeah, it was. It was Django, then it was... That's true, yeah. But I mean, just the idea of like... But even that's difficult.

Exactly. The production keeps getting bigger and bigger. And it wouldn't surprise me if he was like, okay, let's strip this back to basics kind of thing. But also I want to milk the Western genre for all it's worth. Absolutely, you do. I love the way that he's clicking the lighter with his fingers to light it.

I remember at the time, because he had a Zippo and to light a cigarette, he'd click the rolly bit. Oh, yes. But I remember knowing people at the time who would do that. And I'm like, that's not the easiest way to light that, is it? It's the cool way to light it cigarette, click the rolly bit. Oh, yes. But I remember knowing people at the time who would do that, and I'm like, that's not the easiest way to light that, is it? It's the cool way to light it, you think. You think it's the cool way, but just come on.

What are you doing to yourself? I like it. It's embarrassing. Did Jonah Hill base his entire personality on Sean Penn in this movie? That's a good question. It's a really good question. Yeah, that's true. Do you think that's true?

I think there's so much Jonah Hill in Sean Penn, it astonished me. If you would have been like, that's Jonah Hill's dad, I would have been like, yeah, it is. It is Jonah Hill's dad. Especially when you look at like Wolf of Wall Street. I don't know. And I mean, maybe just the look. He looks like Jonah Hill, right?

Okay, sure. But I mean, isn't that more the idea that- No, Chris Penn. It's not Sean Penn. It's Chris Penn. It's Chris Penn. That's true. He's now dead.

Yes. Do you think that's more a function of that nice guy Eddie is kind of a... He's kind of like a mob stereotype kind of character?

Yeah, maybe. Is it more that Jonah Hill's based his entire personality on mob stereotypes? It's entirely possible. Anyway, I just thought that was a...

I was like, this guy's so Jonah Hill. It's crazy. Yeah, right. I don't know what's going on here. That stuck in the middle with you saying where he cuts off the guy's ear. You can see that it's like a prosthetic where it's like layered over the top of his real But it's still immensely disturbing.

It's still... Yeah. See the cartilage in the hole in his ear and... What's interesting in re-watching these movies, I very much felt like Pulp Fiction's still kind of like the quaint, funny one. Like it's kind of... I know, these two, yeah these two yeah i'm like oh my god this one's so a guy's head explodes in pop fiction but it is way easier to to watch than a guy slowly cutting off a man's ear like dancing around and then splashing him in petrol as he's like screaming and crying that's true but i also think maybe

that's the function of there's way more pop culture parodies of pop fiction stuff at this point i think it's kind of like it's it's it's even like the zed stuff has been parodied like the simpsons exactly yeah so i think i'm like oh yeah i remember this this is a funny this is a funny family movie isn't it yeah i um i looked up this guy's name his name is uh kirk boltz who plays the cop he's terrific in this movie yeah i'm kind of surprised he didn't also go on to kind of do like bigger bigger things in this what is he really sells that torture that's true and he's just like i mean i know it's the makeup effects as well but just the crying and the the ways yeah i spent a lot of these movies also going these characters are really strong i enjoy i enjoy these characters

i like i want i wonder what would happen to these guys in the future and then they get shot and i'm like oh that's right they died i forgot i'm like oh what's gonna happen to this cop you know it's a let's say he's good you know i wonder what what his future holds maybe they could put him in a future oh wait nice guy he shoots him what i did say in this movie and it's probably been done before but i remember at the time not having seen it, when Stuck in the Middle with You is playing and he goes out to the car to get the can of gasoline and the music fades as he leaves.

Yeah, right. And then he comes back in and it kicks back in. Diagetic music, I think that's called. Okay, right, yeah. Which is where the soundtrack only exists within the movie. So it's not an overlay. It's kind of like we hear what the characters are listening to. These are the first movies.

Well, it was the Blues Brothers is the first soundtrack that I ever got on tape. But I think this, Pulp Fiction especially, was the first movie that made me go, who are all the people on this soundtrack? What are the origins of these songs? I'm going to get this sound because I got the double pack. I got the Reservoir Dogs Pulp Fiction CD soundtrack.

And I'm like, I've got to learn more about all this stuff. And also the liner notes had all sorts of biographical information and like why Quentin Tarantino chose all these. Oh, did it? Yeah, he's a real... I think there's been some flow over that into like Guardians of the Galaxy. For sure, yeah. Baby Driver.

Other worse movies, presumably. You know what I mean? Suicide Squad, probably. Boondock Saints, probably. Yeah, Boondock Saints, probably. I should watch that again. I remember liking it. Which one do you prefer, the second one or the first one?

I've never seen the second one. Which one do you prefer, though? The first one. Yeah. I saw, you know, the people for g i think it's gq of vanity fair breakdown their famous roles yeah and willem dafoe did one for him i've seen that etc and he said in it i always know when so i always know exactly the kind of person who's going to come up to me and say i love boondock saints he never describes it but you can imagine the fedora or the trench

yeah it's one of those is it yeah isn't it is it the holster in the belt for the samurai sword it's definitely that uh so mr orange is a cop i don't remember spotting that twist at the time yeah do you think it's well hidden i think it is what do you mean that is that is the cop that that reveal if you didn't know that when when he's in the mood yeah i know i know that i mean did what did you suspect that because you know one of them's a cop or a rat uh-huh do you think if you didn't know that. I mean, did you suspect that he, because you know one of them's a cop or a rat. Do you think if you didn't know that. Yes. And you missed all the flashback sequences where he's a cop? No, but that only happens after he shoots the Michael Marsden character. Does it?

I believe so, yeah. And then it's revealed that he's like, I'm a cop. And he's like, I know you're a cop, you dumbass. Well, I wouldn't have given the game away. Never mind. I'd have been like, oh, thanks for saving my life. I'm a criminal like you. Now where's that ambulance?

Because I thought. Load me up on that ambulance. I believe it's that scene and then it's the flashback where he tells the made up drug dealing story. Which I really like the narrative of that where he goes, look, if you're going to be infiltrating this mob gang or whatever, here's the script of a really compelling story I want you to tell. And then it goes through him rehearsing it and then practicing in front of the mirror or whatever. And then it's him telling it in real time.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say we definitely see that before everyone shot at the end. Tweet us in. Yes or no. Okay. Do we or do we not? You might be right. Yeah. I think if comic books would have stayed more niche as movies, Quentin Tarantino would have

done one. Because in this I spotted there's a silver server poster. He says that guy looks like the thing, the mob boss. There's an Iron Man figurine. I think if they had stayed like B movie characters. Oh, he definitely would have done one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If they'd stayed kind of, yeah, absolutely.

Didn't he talk about doing, he wanted to do Luke Cage for years, I want to say. That makes a lot of sense, yeah. Does that sound right? Yeah. Yeah. Because it gives him the excuse to say. That makes a lot of sense, yeah. Does that sound right? Yeah. Yeah. Because it gives him the excuse to say the N-word a lot. So, yes, he would have.

That is 100% the project he would have chosen. There's a lot of that in this, isn't there? Oh, my God. He defended it, I think. I think Spike Lee said, why do you keep using the N-word in these movies? And he's like, well, it's like, why can a black director do it and I can't do it?

And I just wouldn't do it. There's other words to use. Yeah. Just say, you know what, there's one word you're not allowed to use. Yeah. It's fine. I mean, it's obviously PC gone mad. It's obviously PC gone mad.

Or don't do it. And look in the defence, and even Samuel L. Jackson's come to his defence and said, okay, well, these are all. Exactly. Who are we to say that? These are all inarguably horrible people. Yeah.

You know, and they're probably going to say the N-word at some point. And of course, there is that element of it. They're all terrible, terrible criminals. Yeah. Yeah. But also, you know, but again, and I guess he would defend it in the sense of like, well, I've created this real character. What would this real character say?

Yeah. But also, you are writing them, so you can just have them say something else. Absolutely. Apparently, I read this on the trivias, that Mr. White meets up with Patricia Arquette's character from True Romance at the end of this or something, and they were going to merge the True Romance universe into this universe or something.

Really? Okay. Also, I don't know if you know. Because the thing that I do know is that Tarantino got the money to make this movie because he sold this True Romance script. Yes. Yeah. And which Tony Scott directed, is that Tarantino got the money to make this movie because he sold this true romance script. Yes. Yeah. And which Tony Scott directed, is that right? Tony's, the true romance is not as good as this.

Oh, I agree. Yeah. Uh-huh. I think it's also, it's not the Tony Scott thing. I just don't think it's as good a script as this. For sure. I feel. Also, was it a true romance?

I think it was just a regular. Kind of a regular, yeah, regular romance. Regular romance that just had guns. Yeah, that's right. You know what's interesting about this movie as well? That you don't see the- Which one are we talking about? Reservoir Dogs. Reservoir Dogs. I think it was just a regular romance. Regular romance that just had guns. Yeah, that's right. You know what's interesting about this movie as well? Which one are we talking about? Reservoir Dogs.

Reservoir Dogs. You don't actually see the heist in it, but there is a video game where you do the heist. I've never played it, but it kind of fills in that gap. Apparently it's not very good. Yeah, right. There's an Inception prequel comic called The Kobol Job oh yeah which explains the job that they screwed up

prior to the events of the movie is it good? I don't remember it being good came out in 2006 it's a Playstation 2 and Xbox game

banned in Australia if I remember correctly yes I think you're right or refused classification because we didn't have an R rating yeah right but I believe it wasn't

Inception gameplay third person controversy refused whatever third person did believe it wasn't. Well, there you go. Reception, gameplay, third person. Controversy, refuse, whatever. Third person, did you say? Yeah, third person. Okay, right. So there you go. I mean, you can still order it from overseas.

But you don't want to. Just watch a Let's Play. Watch a Let's Play, Mason. Oh, not in 2006. Yeah, right. You're not going to be watching no Let's Plays. Maybe you'd download one on Ebalm's World. Yeah.

I can't find any reviews for this fucking thing I just want to know whether it's good like the critical consensus if you played it was it good or not yes or no

no because that'll muddy the other one alright fine 50% on Metacritic oh not bad ignore that second thing or if you're going to talk about the second thing

specify it say second thing yes or no okay right okay just towards the end of this you know how the Vega brothers, right? Yes.

They get on the Vega bus because they were going to do a Vega prequel film. Yes, uh-huh. Both the Vega brothers end up dead. Is it Vic Vega and Vincent Vega? Yes, in whatever order. That's very confusing for their parents. I agree. Or they change their names because it's entirely possible.

Well, that's true, yeah. One's Victory Vega and one's Vincent Vega. Okay, all right. So there was going to be a movie called Double V Vega And if you thought it was a Street Fighter game I mean movie Yes It was not that

Okay That did come out It's a Vega character isn't it A Street Fighter Mason He's got a claw doesn't he That's true That's good But now we're going to

Gwenda Tarantino Side note Originally the character of M. Bison was called Vega Is that true Yes Wow We should do a Street Fighter episode And the character Balrog was called M. Bison

because he's like Mike Tyson, but he was Mike Bison. And then they gave it the old switcheroo. They switched all those three names around. So Mike Tyson wouldn't sue, I assume? I guess so, yeah. There you go. Wow, I'm learning things too. That's right.

Anyway, so it was going to be a John Travolta, Michael Marsden movie. Madsen. Madsen, sorry. Marsden, he's an author. And it was going to be a prequel where it explored like that adventures maybe in amsterdam or whatever oh for sure because he spent years over there yeah three years or whatever it is the thing is they aged out of the role and that's why they kind of stopped doing it and but i think if you wanted to do it now

with modern technology you could actually do it i think you could do yeah okay i don't think quentin tarantino would be interested in doing that necessarily but i think you could actually do it. I think you could de-age in both. I don't think Quentin Tarantino would be interested in doing that necessarily, but I think you could do it. I also heard- Would you watch a movie set in any of the Quentin Tarantino worlds not directed by Quentin Tarantino? I mean, I guess so. Would you watch Reservoir Dogs directed by McG as an example?

Yeah. Or Michael Bay? I mean, I wouldn't watch it thinking- Michael Bay's Reservoir Dogs 2. Michael Bay's Reservoir Dogs 2. Dark of the Moon. It's set on the moon. Well then, yeah, obviously. Yeah, I mean, yeah, probably. I mean, is

True Romance set in the same universe? And the vampire one is... Does that set in the movie universe within... Oh, sure, sure, sure. Right. Well, that is the... Do you want to explain the two universes? that that is the eternal the tarantino the tarantino uh the theory of the tarantino universe is that some of the movies are set ostensibly in the real world our world yeah and some of them some of the movies are set in some of the movies

it's the movies that they watch they would watch in that universe. Kill Bill. And the linchpin apparently is that in Inglourious Bastards, which is set in the real world. The Pulp Fiction world or whatever. Yes, it's set in the same universe as Pulp Fiction, is that the hyper-violent death of Hitler in that movie theatre caused people to only love really violent, horrific movies. How did the word even get out that they machine-gunned him?

I don't know. Yeah. It's probably a bold, young filmmaker there. No doubt. Just cranking, filming Hitler's feet, you know? So everybody would know. You're probably right. Yeah, and then apparently, and so in Pulp Fiction,

which we'll get to in a sec, Mia Wallace's, Uma Thurman's character, Mia Mia Wallace was in a TV pilot called Fox Force 5, and there are some parallels to those characters and the characters in Kill Bill. Because maybe, yeah, so Kill Bill is set in the movie universe within Tarantino, isn't it? Yes, that's right. It's like the hyper-violent Kung Fu and whatever. And like Planet Terror is in there. Yep, Death Proof. Death Pro terror is in there yep um death proof

death proof is in there and maybe some other ones probably presumably yeah so but anyway i heard an idea i think it might have been john default and i couldn't find the interview i read it years ago where he said oh how did you feel about this well we'll talk about it when we talk about yes we definitely will you're right but he um he's like we've aged out of the roles if he did say this but somebody said it I can't remember who. But he goes, we thought of an idea around it. And that is that I could come back and play Vincent Vega's twin brother. And Michael Madsen could play the twin brother of his character from Pulp Fiction.

And then we meet up. So those guys would be two separate identical twins who had their twins killed. And then they come together. Oh, my God. I know. Wow. And I'm like, is that what people want? What are you doing?

I mean, John Travolta could also come back as the Archangel Michael from the movie Michael. Sure he could. And Michael Madsen could come back as literally any of the many characters he's played. I thought the movie Michael was a sequel to the movie Phenomenon. Oh, yeah, right. You know, a magical nice guy.

Magical nice man, yeah. Yeah. He's an angel, not a saint, remember? Oh, yeah, I remember. Let's do Pulp Fiction. Oh, can we talk about it just before we can? Sure. A character that gets almost no screen time is Mr. Blue, who's Eddie Bunker.

Oh, real life. Yeah, he's real life. He was a real life armed robber. Yeah. Went to jail for many things and in the 70s he because I didn't know

anything about him and he looked like that guy I'm like who's this guy he probably robbed your dad yeah he's like he looked like

maybe like a sitcom character from the 70s or something like that and I'm like who is this guy and so he was an armed robber

bank robber drug dealing extortion. And then he got released from prison in 1975 and decided to become a crime writer and an actor. And so he's... And didn't he... I read an interview with him where he was talking about, yeah, if we were really doing a heist like this,

like a diamond heist, we wouldn't all wear the same suits and sit in a diner and then go rob a jewellery store because we're pretty easily identifiable that's true but also because you got to remember that the pop fiction movie universe even though it has movies within the universe though the pop fiction is a movie within our universe so it's actually a movie yeah so that's and then yeah exactly and also isn't isn't that the larger universe explanation is also that our that the pop fiction universe the reserve dogervoir Dogs universe, is also more, it's overall more violent as well because society has reflected off the more violent movies they see and has in fact become more violent and more stylized, I guess. So you absolutely would all wear identical suits and knock over a jewelry store.

Also, what's the cops plan? Is it to wait till they all get machine gunned and then... I guess so. Okay, right. It's a good question. Isn't it, though? Yeah, that's the world we live in. Pulp Fiction, 1994, apparently it cost $8 million to make.

$5 million of that was spent on cast, but it made $200 million in total, so it did very well. Though I also read somewhere that each of the major players, like the major cast members, got $20,000 a week. So maybe that is that. Also, when I started watching this one again and it opens up with, what's the dialogue it opens with Pulp Fiction?

It's Tim Roth and Amanda Plummer in there. I had to like snap back into it. I'm like, I can't fucking follow this. Really? I really had to like, cause I'm used to kind of half watching something. Sure yeah so i'm like oh shit i'm really gonna pay attention to this yeah did you feel that was a chore though because i was like a little bit

really because i'm like i'm really actually getting i i like the maybe because i know where it goes oh yeah i guess that's from my mind yeah but it objectively that's you know that's a good saying and they're talking about how, you know... Who to rob and why. Yeah, it's who to rob and why. Banks are easy to rob because they're all insured and nobody cares and blah, blah, blah. But you should definitely rob this restaurant

because nobody's expecting it. Yes. Is this better than Reservoir Dogs? Absolutely, I think it is. I think the acting's better. They let Tim Roth use his own accent yes it's more colourful

it's got more colourful characters it's funnier it's definitely funnier yeah I mean he's never Quentin Tarantino has never said that any of his movies

are comedies I don't think he's always like these are dramas but this one's but this is funnier than most movies real life is funny

you know what I mean when they bang on comical violent misadventures are very funny you know so he mean when they're banging comical violent misadventures are very funny you know so he I looked this up because I'm like

Quentin Tarantino must have lived in Amsterdam or just recently been to Amsterdam or it's just one of these no again I think it's just one of those no he did

I looked it up he wrote the script in Amsterdam he's talking about what kind of food there is in Europe and this is how you've been to Amsterdam have you I have... You've been to Amsterdam, have you?

I have not. I've been to Amsterdam, Mason, because of course I have. I've been there twice because I'm around the world. Okay. I have eaten a Royale with cheese in Paris. Well, I haven't done that. So it is definitely that. I think that would have been more interesting to be like,

wow, in Europe they say different things. Now it's obvious. It's like, well, yeah, things are in Europe they say different things. Now it's obvious. It's like, well, yeah, things are named different things in different places. You can buy different things in different parts of the world. Well, that is true. But also, you know, it's... Maybe I'm so cultured, Mason.

Well, you are very cultured. But also, again, these are two... They're hired killers, but they're also ostensibly average Joes from America. Yeah, you're right. That's what I was going to say. Aside average Joes from America so they've never been you know aside from this trip

to Amsterdam they've never been outside of America so I think because I was thinking about well I googled

did Pulp Fiction increase restaurant robberies because it basically made a really excellent case for you should rob restaurants as opposed

to banks look you were definitely you were definitely I'm saying does movies influence society for the worse, Mason. Does Quentin Tarantino movies specifically. He's the first influencer. He's increasing restaurant robberies.

He's lowering tipping. He's doing it all. Anyway, I didn't get that result, but I did get... Heroin use. That's right. Adrenaline to the chest just to see what'll happen. Apparently you shouldn't do that. It's not...

You would get out of that situation. But I didn't come up, but I did get what's the point of Pulp Fiction? That was like one of the top results. And I think... What's the point of it? Well, what they talk... What it said is that this movie is a search for meaning.

Right. And like how things work and an explanation of ideas and whatever. And I think it really is, especially because of the Samuel L. Jackson and John Travolta characters, because it's just, what's this called? What's a TV pilot? Would you give a guy a foot massage? It's constant just fiery questions at each other.

Well, what it is, it's a couple of things. It's bar trivia, the movie. It's bar trivia. But I think what works about this movie is it's the mundanity of life and then it's incredible bursts of violence. Yes. Like that's it. It's like, well, I can relate because we're having a dumb conversation

about your trip to Amsterdam and blah, blah, blah. And then, you know, somebody's head explodes. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And I think, yeah, that wasn't a slight, by the way. I didn't mean to sound like a negative, but I just thought that was really being aware of that. And also, I think that another lesson is be alert when you go to the toilet.

Yes. Because whenever you come out, something bad's going to happen. To you or others. Yeah, you're going to be in the toilet for five minutes and somebody's going to overdose on heroin or Bruce Willis is going to be there with a machine gun and he's going to kill you. You know what's interesting about that Bruce Willis,

oh, there's a robbery in a restaurant, but the reason he goes to the toilet a lot is because apparently a side effect of heroin addiction, and this is in Trainspotting, is constipation. So that's why he's constantly going to the toilet or he's just sitting on the toilet for so long. Well, isn't that, I mean, that's because you would think you'd go to the toilet less.

But that, I guess, hope springs eternal, you know? Boy, does it. Every time you see a toilet, you'd just go there. You'd just go there. And just be like, I'm going to try. I'm going to do it. Yeah. But this is jumping forward a bit in the movie,

but the moment where Bruce Willis gets Machine Gun's John Travolta, I was thinking, why did he not hear him come in? Because he's stomping around his apartment. He's putting Pop-Tarts in. I'm like, get out of there, Bruce Willis. What are you doing? But the reason is- Is it because he's on heroin?

He's on heroin. Well, Quentin Tarantino confirmed this, but basically, you know, Marcel Wallace was coming back with two cups of coffee. So he'd left the apartment to go and get snacks. Oh, I see. And John Travolta's thinking, no one's dumb enough to come back to the apartment. Because he wouldn't have come back if it wasn't for the watch. Right.

So that's why he runs into him outside of the apartment. And that's why John Travolta doesn't think anything of the noise, because he just thinks it's his boss. And also, he probably doesn't know the machine gun's there, because it's not his. It's his bosses that left it there and then went out to get the coffee. Because he doesn't carry a machine gun. Interesting that Marcellus Wallace, the gang boss, is coming out for the coffee. He likes the fresh air. Also, John Travolta's on the toilet.

I guess that's probably true. Here's a question. Oh, okay. Travolta and Jackson are a great combination. Samuel L. Jackson is particularly good in this movie. That interrogation scene is incredible. Damning John Travolta with faint praise. No, he's good in this. He's good. He's really good in this movie. That interrogation scene is incredible. Damning John Travolta with faint praise. No, he's good in this.

He's good. He's really good in this. Apparently Tarantino saw him in the movie. It's a Brian De Palma movie called Blowout, which is from the early 80s, which is actually very good. I've never seen that. It's kind of like a rear window kind of movie

where he's like a sound engineer and his boss is like, you've got to go out and get bloody more realistic wind noises for this movie and so he goes out into the the night and he accidentally records like a gunshot he sees a car accident and he records the noise and he's like oh this is a gunshot so yeah you know there's a assassination's afoot and then he has to sort of go on the run okay yeah i mean you'll have to get over your travolta bias to watch it he's good in things yeah that's true.

I just, and I've said this before, he had multiple opportunities and squandered them on garbage. He did make Be Cool. No, the other one, which is good. Get Shorty, which is good. Apparently there's, I don't think this works, but Jules is the piano player in Kill Bill, some people think, because his idea is, I want to go on the road and be a drifter or whatever. I want to retire from this life.

And then he shows up in Kill Bill. But that couldn't work if Kill Bill was set in the movie universe. That's true. Within this universe. Also, I have no memory of him in Kill Bill. Yeah, he's... Is he in two? He gets...

Before the bride gets shot in the head, I think he's... Oh, he's in the church. I believe so. Right, okay. I don't remember. I don't know. Uma Thurman's really good in this. Yes.

And that Halloween costume, you still cannot escape. That's true, yeah. The black bob haircut. Well, that's true good in this. Yes. And that Halloween costume, you still cannot escape. That's true, yeah. The black bob haircut. Well, that's true. And the white shirt. If you see somebody in that outfit, there's only ever one person it could be. So that's the mark of a good, memorable costume. If they're committing to it, they'll probably do a needle sticking out of the chest, I'd imagine.

Apparently she wasn't really sure she was going to do it, and Tarantino read her the script over the phone. He's talked about her, how she's his muse and all those kind of things before she was married to ethan orc at the time oh my muse my size 10 muse my size 10 wide here's a question for you though talk about a fate i know what you're talking about okay in okay in the dynastade yes is that a good dance or a ridiculous dance i don't know i i well let's i don't know. I don't know. And also, it's a twist competition in a 1950s themed... It cost $150,000 to make that set. Oh, they built it.

Okay, so that's not existing. I thought it was initially. I found conflicting information, but I saw that in particular. But it's this bizarre 1950s themed diner where you can sit in a convertible car and receive your meal and what have you. And everybody gets served by Hollywood icons of the past and that kind of thing. $5 milkshakes. I'm like, that's quite reasonable. Yeah, I was going to say that these days.

Definitely pay $5 for the board's best milkshake, shake, whatever it's called. I don't know. I was under the impression that, you know, you want to do your best 1950s twist. So it doesn't have to be good. It just has to be what they did in the 1950s. Then it wasn't good. Yeah.

Great. Because I remember that being like the coolest thing in the world. Oh, yeah. But if I saw that now, and probably because I know what it's from. Yes, exactly. And he's doing the two fingers across the eyes or whatever. What do you think of Travolta's wig in this? Or parts of the wig or whatever's going on there?

I don't mind it. Me neither. I enjoy it in Iron Man 3 also on Happy Hogan. Christopher Walken's excellent. God, he's young in this. Yeah. My favourite part about the Christopher Walken scene, and I'd forgotten until just now,

he says that he wore the watch up his ass for two years. He didn't keep it up there. He wore it up there. Do you reckon that's an ad lib or do you reckon that's... I don't know. Because apparently... It could be a flub. It could be.

Well, he keeps a lot of flubs in this. I mean, nobody says, nobody reflexively says, I kept the watch up there. You always say, I wore a watch. Yeah, up my ass. Yeah. Because the moment where, you know, John DeVolder crashes the car into Eric Stoltz's house

and then comes out, and he's trying to be like, I got this, this is Marcellus Wallace's wife or whatever. He flubs the line and he just keeps going. But it kind of feels natural because you don't always speak properly. Well, that's true. You specifically. There's also another flub that when Honey Bunny, right at the start of the movie, she says she's going to kill everybody.

She gets up on the table. When we see it again later, it's a different line. That's intentional, though. Is that an unreliable narrator kind of situation? Yeah, because one of them is from her perspective, which is what actually happened, and one's from Samuel L. Jackson's perspective. That's fine.

So there you go. Or it's a flub. Or it's a flub, yeah. In hindsight, they've been like, yeah, no, that's deliberate. Do you remember when Bruce Willis used to be good? At acting, yeah. God, he's good in this. And caring about things.

Yeah. Apparently Mickey Rourke passed on this for a real boxing career. Oh. Which I think he would have been. Well, now he's the heavyweight champion of the world. That's where he made it, didn't he? He's been the heavyweight champion of the world for nearly 20 years. And he tells a story on his face.

Mm-hmm. Well. I think Matt Dillon was, was it this role he was offered? I think it was. And he didn't get back immediately so that he gave it to someone. I think it was either this or something else. Right. I don't like Bruce Willis' manic pixie dream girl, girlfriend.

That is just not a real person. Right, okay, sure. And I think this movie is responsible for manic pixie dream girls. Do you really? Even more so than Zooey Deschanel or even more so than... Just like, yeah, because she's like, oh, I want to go and I want to... Even more so than Zach Braff. I want to live on a river and make paper flowers and whatever.

And Bruce Willis is like, where's my fucking watch? And she's like, oh, I just want to drink milk out of a cow's udder or whatever. You know what I mean? Yeah, for sure. She's not a real person is what I'm saying. She's a fake human being. I'm not saying she's bad but I also think

that a lot of their kind of lovey-dovey like it was intended to build this idea of they've been in a relationship for a long time so they've got cute nicknames for each other

and you know they've got a little repartee going on but you're right it's thoroughly annoying yeah also did you know that this is not

the first movie that John Travolta and Bruce Willis have done together look who's talking Mason and maybe the secret annoying yeah also did you know that this is not the first movie that john travolta and bruce willis have done together oh look who's talking mason and maybe the secret i get back together no i get great tastes yeah right it tastes great together did they ever have did they ever i wonder if they ever interacted like on set or it's just because bruce was the voice probably not maybe never yeah that zed thing is that whole element is terrifying yeah it's interesting as well because they're they're characters out of nowhere they don't relate to the plot anyway they just they

just run into some some bizarre deviant predators for no reason right apparently they're brothers those guys as well or whatever yeah could you kind of think he's breaking up the fight initially when i first saw it obviously and then it just turns really quickly. It's horrifying. But it's got a very satisfying conclusion. Yeah, man shot in the dick. Man shot in the dick. That's how all movies should end.

The most satisfying conclusion. The mummy at the end, Brendan Fraser. Shot in the dick. Shot in the dick. Yeah. Do you have any thoughts on the Marcellus Wallace band-aid on the back of the neck? What else could it be? Okay.

Do you want to explain this before we... The ongoing, the... Oh, I don't know if Quentin Tarantino's ever confirmed this or... I have the actual information. Okay. So the MacGuffin of this movie is the thing that everybody wants, is a briefcase. It's been confirmed, by the way, because he's had to answer this question every day for 20 years. Yeah, I was going to say,

this is his Buzz Aldrin man walking on the moon scenario. So the MacGuffin is this briefcase. Everybody wants the briefcase. Everybody's got to keep this briefcase secure. It's something that Marcellus Wallace, it's his property, and it keeps bouncing around between people. And you open up the briefcase and there's just a glowing orange light. We don't know what it is.

Initially, it was just going to be like they added that element, that supernatural element. It was just going to be a briefcase. And the clue that people point to is that Marcellus Wallace has a band-aid on the back of his head and so the main theory is that he got his soul sucked out through the back of his neck and it's in the briefcase and he needs it.

He can't put it back in, but it's just in the briefcase. So you're saying Quentin Tarantino has been asked about this for 20 years? So first of all, on that Band-Aid, apparently it's just a coincidence because he cut himself shaving his head. Oh, right. So it's not even supposed to be related to that thing. That being said, you can interpret anything from this. Well, that's true. Sorry, go on.

I was going to say, I read a thread on this on Twitter, not on this specific thing, but just like people asking authors or what have you going up during Q&As and saying... What's this exact? You know, does this sequence of numbers represent this? And people just going, no, it's just a coincidence. Catch-22 apparently was originally called Catch-18 18 all right but then there was another book that came out that had 18 in the title and he just went and joseph hell just went 22 then i guess

so there's no so is that the actual origin of catch 22 yes the the phrase yes i did not know that the novel catch 22 and i've seen the great show i know know. But yeah, so a lot of this stuff is just the mythos builds from just a coincidence. Or like, I don't think it was Kurosawa, but it was a Japanese director and they said, it was asked of him, that beautiful pan shot in your movie, why did you stop here? Why did you start here and stop here?

You know, does this represent anything? He's like, well, if I moved an inch to the left, you'd see the Sony factory in this medieval movie. And if we moved to the right, you'd see the freeway. Yeah, right. So I just had to stop, start and stop there. Yeah. And that's the thing.

David F. Sandberg, who did Shazam, he put a really interesting video up on his YouTube recently where he talks about how a lot of the things that people read into, a lot of film essayists on YouTube in particular, they're reading into all these elements of filmmaking, which are just happenstance and situations like you're talking about. Yeah, right. There's a moment in Shazam where he's trying to fly in the mall and there's people behind him, right?

And they green screen out all the people who are behind him, like lifting him up on cables. But there's crew members standing just to the side who were in the shot that they forgot to remove oh right oh in the theatrical yeah so it would have been more expensive to remove them so they just cgi'd in a bunch of bags in front of them so they're shoppers yeah right yeah and because their crew members just standing there just like just watching the scene yeah right so it's saying like things like that where a lot of the things is it's just this is how we're gonna have to make this work. Because tool making is just problem solving. Well, exactly. I mean, and cameras and stuff.

Exactly. What were we talking about before I... The briefcase. Oh, the briefcase, right. Okay. So the original plan was, there was a rumour that the original plan was going to be that it was going to contain the diamonds from Reservoir Dogs.

Yeah, right. And the other one is, yeah, the thing you said about the soul, but Quentin Tarantino just says it's not supposed to be anything. It's whatever you think it should be. Well, exactly, yeah. That's the essential element of a MacGuffin. It doesn't matter what it is. Yeah.

If it has any real... What are you going to do with a human soul anyway? Exactly, that's true, yeah. What's bloody Tim Roth, the bloody restaurant thief, burglar, robber, what's he want with a human soul? Is he going to eat it? Yeah. What's bloody Tim Roth, the bloody restaurant thief, burglar, robber? What's he want with the human soul? Is he going to eat it? Yeah.

You know? Do you think this has got a satisfying conclusion or do you think it's... I like the abrupt ending. It's not kind of satisfying. I just, in the sense of like, wow, like that really built to a climax. It doesn't really build to anything.

It just stops. But I like that because this world kind of continues on. You know what happens to Travolta exactly it's a 50 short films about Springfield situation that's right

it's just it's a slice of life with some characters some of whom are worse than others yes most are bad most are so bad

they're all the worst they're either murderers or manic pixie dream girls that's right yuck yeah yuck yeah i like the fact that they had you know that and there was you know for some characters like for mia

wallace and vincent vega there was like the soft ending where they're like okay bye like we had that horrible yeah you know experience and that's but then later we get a little we get a little catch up with them yeah and and she's like oh I never think we did it. He's like, yeah. Remember that time you had the heroin? He snorted that heroin. And Eric Stoltz was not a fan either of me bringing it in the apartment. Eric Stoltz is good in this, isn't he? I started watching The Prophecy.

What if they deleted and replaced it with Michael J. Fox? That's a cow agreeing with you. Yeah, I see. Sorry, you were saying? I can't remember. Eric Stoltz, Propic's prophecy it's about demons in the 90s or some shit you know there's a bit where they get the gun unloaded on them and one of them learns a lesson and the other one's just like sometimes bullets miss yeah there's an

interpretation of that saying first of all the bullet holes are already behind them before he fires the gun oh i see right uh but in uh when they walk away there's bullet holes also directly behind them which means it may have actually been a miracle. Oh, yes, okay, sure. The bullets actually didn't hit them. So that's God's way of saying, like, here's a second chance, and one of them takes it and one of them doesn't. But again, interpretation.

But also they both lived, so. No, they didn't. Oh, yeah, one of them. I was going to say, oh, yeah. One of them chooses to continue the life and thinks it means nothing. That's right, and he gets a machine gun by Bruce Willis. And the other's like, I'm going to be a drifter. You know why that?

Because, again, it's out of... Exactly. So I remember them just leaving the diner and being like, oh, good for them. I wonder how the rest of their lives are. Oh, machine gun to death. Now, I know that this has been done, but I wonder how this plays chronologically,

if you recap it. Oh, yeah, right. Probably not as good, I'd imagine, but still quite good. Yeah, very much not as good, I'd imagine, but still quite good. Yeah, very much not as good because, again, you'd see Travolta come out of the diner and get machine gunned. Yes. And then you'd be like, oh. That's the end, I guess.

That's the end of him, I suppose. Oh, no, then there's the Bruce Willis. Yeah. Okay, so chronologically, what's the last? It ends with Bruce Willis escaping, I guess. Bruce Willis escaping. Okay, right. Great. It's like the movie Hearts War. Is it? Maybe. I never saw the end. it ends with Bruce Willis escaping Bruce Willis escaping okay right hmm hmm great

it's like the movie Hearts War is it? maybe I never saw the end alright good but it's about Bruce Willis escaping with Colin Farrell

but I think he doesn't make it huh I can't remember hmm um what is it was like for a second out of the corner

I thought there was someone standing right here next to me wow yeah wow jeez I'm tired Bruce Willis making pop tarts.

Is that what it was? God, that really freaked me out. I don't know if you noticed that. Yeah. Also, get off the toilet. We've got to go record a podcast. Mr. Wolf, I guess that's the last thing we can talk about here. Harvey Keitel returns as a different character, obviously.

It's a good character. What I like about that is the respect and the lore around that character. Yeah, right. The way that people treat him and listen to him for the most part. And he's fast on his feet and he's got his ideas, man. You know, he's being presented with a scenario that he probably hasn't been in before. Yeah, he could have been promoted to management at this point, but he likes getting his hands dirty, you know. He likes, I like that.

It's like, it's 30 minutes away, I'll be there in 10. Yeah, right. Good on him. That sounds unsafe it really does yeah so there you go yeah I think

I've written a list of movies that this is responsible for for better or worse I was just going to say we're talking about the last thing I was going to say is like what is this

what has this done for the movie industry these two movies especially Go alright it's out of order Way of the Gun alright

The Big Hit I feel like Way of the Gun. All right. The Big Hit. I feel like Way of the Gun is most notable for the opening sequence. The Sarah Silverman. And then nothing else. But all right. I think that's the... Is that Christopher McQuarrie, I want to say? It might be.

Mission Impossible. The Big Hit with Mark Wahlberg. Sure. Which some people have recommended us doing. Get Shorty, of course. Yeah. Which came out the following year. Boondock Saints.

And even though Sin City the comic was written before, it's structured, some cuts are structured like a Pulp Fiction kind of version. I guess that's true, yeah. Well, I guess both of these movies sort of repopularised kind of hard-boiled crime narratives. It was Christopher McQuarrie, yeah. He was blacklisted after this because it didn't do well, way of the gun.

Really? Yeah. Huh. How poorly did it do? I don't know. It wasn't very good, I remember from memory. Correct, yes. Well, how far he's come, you know?

Yeah, he really is. Yeah, but it's kind of, did this repopularise? Made $13 million off $21 million. Oh, that's less. So bad, yeah. Did this sort of repopularized like noir crime. And it also, I don't know, did it, were these movies kind of, did they kick off everything's a reference? You know, just movies that are just.

Well, I think Clerks and Mallrats as well. I guess that's true, yeah. That was this era, so not necessarily. Yeah, I guess that's probably true. There is a lot of like, do you remember this TV show? i remember that tv show do you remember this actor yeah i remember that actor it's the podcast of its day yes well imagine if we were imagine if we attempted to inform the public about pop culture news in the 90s and podcasting didn't exist so we had to make an independent movie every time every week we'd have to make an independent crime movie every week.

Yeah, exactly. With twists and turns and non-linear narratives. And then we'd be like, did you hear they're casting a Joker movie? Yeah. But who do you think's sweeping the corridors of the Batcave? We're doing it all. Yeah. Yeah.

Anyway, that's those two movies, isn't it? Yeah. Still hold up? Yeah, I think so. Especially Pulp Fiction. Yeah. It's very rude, though, isn't it? They're rude movies.

They're rude movies. They're rude boys for the most part. They're rude. They're saying rude. They're saying R words and other R words and G words and all sorts of words. So rude. And if you don't know what I'm talking about, just think of the worst words starting that letter. They've said it.

They just said it. Yeah. You know what I like about doing this? Yes. These are movies that I'm familiar with and then rewatch and you can look up trivia and you pick up new things a second time as opposed to watching a movie and then three days later being like, what's everything you remember from Thoms and Shaw?

So I think I definitely preferred this. I'm glad we're coming out of the blockbuster season where I can be like, can we talk about... To answer your question, it's the bit where the car and the motorcycle go under the truck. That's all I remember. And then they go to Samoa. Yes, they do.

It was the bad boys of its day, too. Because there's an extra 30 minutes at the end. Anyway, you know what it's time for? What are we reading? What are we going to read? Oh, yeah. I'm doing a thing. What are we reading today?

What have you got? Season 3 of Glows Out on Netflix. Oh, I've never finished 2. It's good. I know it's good. Okay, right. Yeah. Why didn't you?

Because life gets in the way, you know what I mean? Life does get in the way, that's true, yeah. Season 2 is the same in quality, isn't it? I think so, yeah. I think so, yeah. And it's a rare Netflix show that's got 3 seasons. I don't know if this is rounding it out. Yeah, right, yeah. It doesn't seem super expensive show that's got three seasons. I don't know if this is rounding it out. You're right, yeah. It doesn't seem super expensive.

It's mostly hiring a gym, isn't it? Yep, it's hiring a gym and hairspray. Yes, that's not wrong. It's those two things. On DVD, so you can get all the references from the era. That's right, yeah. I understand. Travolta, he's back.

Oh, goodness gracious. That's not a good movie either. Do you remember Travolta in that movie? They're like, Travolta's playing... I haven't seen it. Okay, I have. I saw it in the movies. I was at uni when it came out.

I used to live with Becky and Claire, who you know. Yes. And we went to see it. It's fine. It's not terrible. But I remember people like, you won't even recognise John Travolta because he plays somebody's mum in it. And I'm like, that's clearly fucking John Travolta.

It's obviously John Travolta. They meant acting-wise. Yeah, but it's fucking John Travolta. It's obviously John Travolta. They meant acting-wise. Yeah, but it's still John Travolta. Well, they should have said, you won't recognise John Travolta from his acting, but you will recognise the physical presence of John Travolta in a lady suit. He's got a variety of wigs. I can pick him up from a mile away.

You've seen every configuration of John Travolta wearing a wig there is. He can't fool you in any way. He's actually a good performance. He does a dance in it. He's good in it. But yeah, it's obviously John Travolta. Yeah, right. Yeah.

Anyway, before you... I've been watching Avengers Endgame. It's so long. I started last night. I've been watching it in segments. Yeah, that's right. So it was like an hour and a half in. I'm like, I'm going to have to come back to this.

Because I've got to get up early. So I'm restarting it again. Those two movies could have been three movies in. I'm like, I'm going to have to come back to this because I've got to get up early. So I'm restarting it again. Those two movies could have been three movies easily. I'm glad they didn't. I'm glad it was two. Having rewatched the first hour and a half, what springs out at you? It's funny.

What's hell? Okay, it's funny. It's got fun, yeah. Is that the key? Yeah. That's interesting because that's the most hellish part. The first half, it's just like... Yeah, that's true, yeah. It's like, he's dead. It's been years. There's some great... We're all so sad. That's interesting because that's the most hellish part. The first half, it's just like... Yeah, that's true, yeah.

It's like, we're always dead. It's been years. There's some great... We're all so sad. That's true. But there's some great deleted scenes that I've seen as well where Rocket Raccoon is laughing at them because they're talking about the Chitauri army.

And he's like, you just got to blow up the main ship. And they're like, we didn't know that. And he's like, they're the worst army in the galaxy. And then Tony Stark comes up with him and shaves the back of his head. Oh, good. Yeah. So there's little moments like that, which are quite good. Does he have a shaved back of the head for the rest of the movie?

I don't believe so, no. Okay, right. Too expensive. That's right. I love the What's Up Regular-Sized Man. Oh, yeah. What Rhodey calls Ant-Man or whatever. It's just a good movie.

It is a good movie. And it goes forever. So long. Yeah. We should do a commentary at some point. But it's so long. It is a good movie. And it goes forever. So long. Yeah. We should do a commentary at some point. But it's so long. It is so long. We'll have to build in a toilet break somehow.

No, we're going to have to dehydrate. Because of the heroin. Because of the heroin, yeah. That's not a bad idea. Heroin? Well, if we did heroin, then we'd be backed up. Oh, perfect. We should have watched Pulp Fiction before we saw the...

Agreed. Yeah. Absolutely. What have you been reading, though? Anyway, Avengers Endgame. You mean besides GLOW, season three? Oh, yeah. You said that already. That saw the... Agreed. Yeah. Absolutely. What have you been reading, though? Anyway, Avengers Endgame. You mean besides GLOW, season three? Oh, yeah, you said that already. That I said a minute ago.

That's true. I haven't had time. I'm going to get to it. Yeah, that's all right. It's going to be good. You've been watching some Caravan of Garbage stuff, though, haven't you? Have I? We've recorded some things this week.

Oh, right. Tell me about them. We did three. No, we did. We have. Oh, we did. Okay, right. We've talked about one of them.

We'll save the others. Okay. I guess next segment of the podcast. Let's do some letters. The classic one was letters, oh letters. We love you, some letters. They're only a day away. I know they're here right now.

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See what's on people's minds. See who's going to bite. And sometimes we get emails to weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com. Would you like me to go first or would you like you to go first? I'll go first. This is from Cole on Twitter. If Quentin Tarantino were to make... Speaking of Quentin Tarantino...

He should change his name to Natural Energy. Wind power. Who are you talking to? Cole. Oh, I get it. That's very good. Is it? It's very topical.

Is there such a thing as too topical? I think you could put that into any era and it would play really well. Yes. Yeah. Except an era before they had renewable energy because they'd only be coal. That's a good point, actually. No, they had windmills. Oh, yeah.

Yep. You know, they'd get a bucket, turning a bucket into stream. Yeah, windmill works. If Quentin Tarantino were to make a Marvel Studio film, what character would you have him make a movie about? So a character that's not getting a movie at the moment. I mean, it's a cop-out,

but like the one that he wants to do. Oh, Luke Cage. No, no no not that one because we've already got that one yeah right but whatever he's whatever he's interested in okay right like i'm not i don't know if his version of star trek is going to be great yeah but he wants to do but i want to see but i want to see his version of it regardless okay but let's say we had to railroad him into making something something crime related yeah would you watch a quentin tarantino punisher movie? I 100% would do that.

I'm going to punish it out, man. Yeah, right, okay. Again, fresh take. Maybe like a Moon Knight then? Yeah, Moon Knight's good. I was thinking Moon Knight also. I think Moon Knight's the default for anything. When people are like, what TV show do you want?

What movie do you want? I don't know, Moon Knight? Here's the thing about the Punisher, though, is that he is naturally the least verbose comic book character there is. Yeah, right. He's the antithesis of a Quentin Tarantino character. He doesn't talk. He doesn't...

There's no wasted words. That's true, actually, yeah. So if you put him in, what is... Do you have... Everybody else does the talking. Well, maybe that's it. You bring back John Travolta as whatever crime boss he played. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Who was it? I can't remember. I'll look it up, but keep going. But what if you built a Quentin Tarantino universe around him and everybody's busting out pop culture references and they're just kind of wacky and talking about the kind of food you get in France or whatever and he's just this looming figure behind them all,

just, like, this relentless silent killer. Yeah, right. I think that would be fun. That's not a bad idea, actually. Do you think he could do that, though? Like, make that character the straight man and then i mean there's a lot of uh howard saint by the way howard saint was the villain okay right uh maybe uh what if you threw him outside the wheelhouse and made him do like the silver surfer or something

like that i think he would do that i think he could i think he's clearly a fan okay would you give him the fantastic four but they can all say the n word yes maybe he would maybe he would do that. I think he's clearly a fan. Would you give him the Fantastic Four? But they can all say the N-word. Yes. Maybe he would be good at the Fantastic Four. Can you imagine a weird 90s throwback Fantastic Four movie? Maybe that's the only way it's going to work. Maybe give him a character that's never worked in live action before and see if he can fix it.

I would rather like a breaking genre fantastic four movie than just like yeah imagine if the fantastic four had their origin in 2023 or whenever these movies are yeah i think yeah they'd just be like an ant-man and the wasp or whatever how would quentin tarantino style work in a silver surfer universe because again it's all it's very it's cosmic and it's majestic. Yes. He's not like a big CGI. Well, yeah.

Do you give him a series of point-of-view characters? Like a Sam Jackson, maybe? Yeah. Like Nick Fury's in space? Oh, yeah. Oh, that's true. We do have a built-in Tarantino surrogate in Sam Jackson, so I guess you could do that.

I mean, you could. There was a series many, many years ago. It had Alex Rossard. It was called Marvels. It was basically about some regular people in the Marvel universe as crazy stuff happens around them kind of thing. And like most of the heroes just appeared as kind of background characters. So maybe you do a Silver Surfer movie.

It's the Silver Surfer saving the world from a cosmic disaster just while regular people are regular. Regular people are standing around saying the N-word. Exactly. I think I'd rather see the space stuff, if I'm honest. Well, they would be. Yeah, no, I see what you're saying, yeah. You'd have to ground it in some kind of dialogue-relatable characters,

people explaining what kind of burgers are in different restaurants to each other. I mean, that's the thing. Like, what is Quentin Tarantino capable of if you take that away from him? Yeah. If you were like, listen, this is going to be a sincere movie about cosmic stuff. You can't have any pop culture conversations. What do you do? Do you think he could embrace that?

I think so. Because he's a fan of, like, your Kurosawas and you're kind of more abstract yeah you know action movies or anything where there's very little dialogue or kind of like you know spaghetti westerns that are mostly silent yeah that sort of stuff so what if you give him kind of like a you know and space is kind of a desolate Wild West environment. Maybe you could do something with that. I think if they hadn't have done Guardians of the Galaxy and James Gunn wasn't doing it, he might have been a good choice for that.

Yeah, for sure. Because it's a wisecracking pop culture referencing group. That's true, yeah. Which is probably also influenced by Quentin Tarantino movies as well. But I want, like, do you think, because again, like, Quentin Tarantino is what you'd call an auteur. Like, he does his own style and he's got his own tropes and he makes exactly the movie he wants to make kind of thing. I wonder if he ever goes, I would kind of like to do something other than what I do.

Yeah, I think so. And I think that's why he's looking at Star Trek and whatever. Yeah. Okay. But I also think that he would never do a Marvel movie in the way that it exists now. Yeah, right. And they wouldn't want him to do one. Yeah.

That's probably true. So an answer to the question, none. Yeah. And that's my final word. Yeah. Or we get him to do the Wonder Twins movie for DC, and it's John Travolta and Michael Madsen. It's the Wonder Twins.

It works too, doesn't it? Yep. Uh-huh. It's perfect. Yeah. Do those guys even have to be brothers? It's just a fun fact, isn't it? It is, yeah. They're brothers. No, they't it? Yep. It's perfect. That's, yeah. Do those guys even have to be brothers? It's just a fun fact, isn't it? It is, yeah.

That they're brothers. No, they're quadruplets. Oh, yeah, that's right. It's fucking... No, they're not quadruplets. They're two sets of twins. They're two sets of twins. I apologize.

According to some. Yeah. This is from Francisco on Twitter. Hashtag weekly planet pod. Can you finish explaining why Superman couldn't get into the Fortress of Solitude in that story that ended up not being what he was talking about, so you got cut off? So last week we were talking about the Superman story from the future, and we were talking about different Superman stories from the future. The one I'm pretty sure.

Let me finish. No, go. Well, the one I think you're talking about is DC One Million, which was a Graham Morrison crossover in the early 2000s, probably. Sure. And basically the Justice Legion A from one million months in the future, which is like 885,000 years or something like that. Thanks, Professor. No problem.

I'm very smart. They come to the past and they're like, hey, we're having a very special celebration. How about you? We'll stay here in the present. And we're celebrating superheroes in the future so how about you all go to the future the justice league and then they go into the future and then all sorts of bloody things happen and the future guys that man knockouts future batman or something well the the the the present day heroes are stuck in the future and

the future heroes are stuck in the present and yeah they they agree to an amenable swap except for batman who's suspicious of the whole thing so future batman knocks him out steals his soul out of his body and then sends that to future and puts it in a clone of himself so that's how batman gets it anyway uh the the the future version of superman can't get into the fortune does he just put a body on ice for like 850 years or whatever is that how he does it? No, I think he builds the... Oh, yeah, maybe. Because he would have had to, right?

Yeah, I guess so. Yeah, anyway, sorry, go on. Okay. That means he just would have waited his whole life out with that clone just sitting in a tank going like, that's going to go off

at some point, isn't it? It's going to bloody go right off. And anyway, the future version of Superman can't get in the future of the fortress of solitude because his DNA is too weak. It's been diluted For too many years

Yes So it doesn't recognise Him as a proper Kryptonian Yes There you go And the future Superman Lives inside the sun Which is a computer

Yes Or is that a different Future Superman comic No that's No that's the correct You are very correct And is he all gold He's all gold

Yeah Because he's absorbed Too much sun Yes What a cool dude He's a very cool dude He'd be terrible To stand next to

Comic books everybody Yeah Because he's boring Or because he's too handsome And he'd look like a real Ar. He's a very cool dude. He'd be terrible to stand next to. Comic books, everybody. Yeah. Because he's boring? Or because he's too handsome? And you'd look like a real Argo. He'd be bright and you'd probably get radiation poisoning. Probably radiation poisoning, yeah. Probably tan one side of your body if you stood next to him.

Here's an email from Ty. I love emails. This is entitled Ghostbusters 2020 Hot Scoop. Hot Scoop? The new Ghostbusters film is currently filming here around Calgary, Alberta, Canada. So my girlfriend and I, bit of a brag, made a trip to the set to check things out and thought I'd share with you the information I was able to get out of my time there. The setting of the movie seems to be in small-town America.

I think we know that. The original Ecto-1 is back, looking worse than the Millennium Falcon, 10 seconds after Hans Heller obtained ownership of it. Yes. The original Ecto-1 is back, looking worse than the Millennium Falcon, 10 seconds after Hans Heller obtained ownership of it. Yes. Dan Aykroyd was on set the days that the Ecto-1 was being used, as was McKenna Grace. Paul Rudd did a fair bit of filming at a local school. Phil Wolfhard was also present the days Paul Rudd was.

There are adverts posted all around the town for Stay Puft Marshmallows. Yeah, was there a picture of that online a few days ago? I think there might have been, yeah. Let's see. Additionally, I got the opportunity to meet Paul Rudd and asked him if Ant-Man 3 would be announced at D23 later this month, and he said, yeah, script's done, man, don't worry about it.

I then shared this with my girlfriend, with Rudd still in earshot, to which he said, I was only kidding, man. I wanted to see how quickly that spread and it turns out pretty fast. If you ask me though, he wasn't kidding and he was just scared that the Marvel NDA ninjas were there to kill him. Well, we'll find out won't we

if they kill him, if we're directly responsible for his death. That's right that's interesting, that wouldn't surprise me Also, you know the world's not going to end if we are aware that the script for Ant-Man 3 is being written. No, it's going to presumably. But that's interesting to get maybe some confirmation

that that is happening. It is. If this story is true. Yeah. Or if Paul Rudd was lying or not. But that wasn't on the slate. No. Well, they did say they were saving some stuff for D23, I believe.

So that's exciting. Yeah. So there'll be a Captain Marvel sequel and a Black Panther sequel and a Ant-Man 3. Yeah, probably some TV stuff or whatever. How exciting, Mason. I've got one more tweet, if you do not mind. Please, please, please.

From William Howie says, Hashtag Weekly Planet Pod, would you be interested in seeing a DC film set in universe but a long ago, e.g. New Gen FX, New Gen Hex film, a medieval film featuring Etrigan the Demon or Black Adam film, or the Black Adam film like we're getting. Great show, lads. Keep it up.

I don't mind the past, but I would rather go Batman Beyond Future. Right, uh-huh. We just talked about the future and the DC Universe in the future. Well, we are getting Joker, so that's a past of sorts. Yeah, but that's not like a Jonah Hex medieval whatever. Look, they've given Jonah Hex their shot. I don't know. I've never seen it.

I also have not seen it. How bad could it be? Really bad, apparently. Yeah, really bad. It's got that weird bit of skin over his mouth. Just cut that, mate. Just give it a snip. Just cut it.

What are you doing? Exactly. I thought you were a tough cowboy man. Yeah. Just give it a little snip snip. How could you eat a big bowl of soup? Okay, what exists in the DC past that we could... Well, there's Green Lanterns from...

Well, there's Green Lanterns. We could do a DC Heroes in World War II scenario. I think that could totally work. Yeah, Blackhawks. Yep. There was rumours that we were going to get a Blackhawk movie, but I think that might have been set in the present, but I would say a World War II Blackhawk movie.

Wonder Woman's obviously got... Yeah. Wonder Woman 84 is in the present but i would say a world war ii black hawk movie wonder woman has obviously got yeah that what that one of them 84 is in 84 but there's that whole time period you could drop her anywhere really that's true would you be interested in going like back back though like before recognizable superheroes all right yeah what do we have then what's that give us specifically jona hex etrigan etrigan the demon and black adam or whatever do you reckon black adam's just going to be Scorpion King? Yeah, a little bit. Just a man running in the sand screaming about his family.

I haven't seen Scorpion King. No. I don't know. I mean, I don't know. I don't think I want to see a distant past DC universe unless it's, you know, New Gods, Apocalypse kind of scenario. Yeah, I agree. That could totally work, yeah.

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Here's one from Holla323. Why did that take so long? I don't know. Five stars, first of all. Great. I'm that guy from James' high school doing all those sit-ups on Facebook. And even though James hates me, I love James and Maso's podcast. Two hilarious guys, great scoops, commentary, and big sandwiches.

Oh, I think maybe on your other podcast, Suggestibles, you teased you were nearly involved in a robbery of some sort. I was nearly involved in a robbery. Did you explain that anyway? No, I didn't. You want me to do that now? Yes. By the way, it's not a big deal.

Yes. You know, I always say when I go to Queen, like the Gold Coast, like I see a weird thing. Yes. So I was in the service station. It was like 1130 at night. Which servo? A gas station I was in a service station. It was like 11.30 at night. A gas station. A servo. We're going back to the house to grab some more beers.

A petrol shop, as we call them. Yeah, you put it in a little baggie and you walk out with a little paper bag. Environment. One punnett of petrol, please, I say. So we're in there and we're at the back. And this guy walked in who looked like the sketch of somebody who's robbing a service station. Oh yeah, for sure. Because I told you this.

No. But basically he was wearing all black. He had a hoodie on, which was up and giant sunglasses. Was this at night time or daytime? This was night time. This was like 1130 at night. And he marches straight up to the counter, but then he sees that we're in the store. So he kind of, he slows.

And then he kind of veers off to like pretend to look at sunglasses on the sunglasses. What's an additional sunglasses? It's pretty bright out there at night at 1130 PM. And clearly the- It's the Gold Coast after all. Everything's sparkling with gold. And clearly the guy behind the counter like was onto it.

Cause we're, you know, we're like pulling this gun like, this guy, he's clearly got to rob you or whatever. But he's just like, this guy I'm like this guy he's clearly gonna rob you or whatever and he's just like he's just waving his way he's like it's fine like he didn't didn't care at all

so we cut it we just waited outside I actually I actually I went up to the counter next to this guy and bought what I was buying anyway because like

he's not gonna attack me presumably every sunglass you have thank you you're like don't worry mate I got you covered he's not gonna take your sunglasses.

I'm going to have all these. But I'm like, presumably this guy isn't going to attack me, which he didn't, which was good. So we just waited outside to kind of see how it played out. But by then, like a small kind of crowd had gathered. This guy, just kind of see how it would play out. And it wasn't to be the hero. I'm not getting shot or stabbed for a Snickers bar at $40 or whatever.

But it was just like... What about a Mars bar at $50? No. I don't know. I'd prefer a Snickers. Crunch in like $80? That's not bad, actually. It's got rice bubbles in it.

Can it be a Violet Crumble, which I prefer? Yeah, Violet Crumble. Thank you. But $50. But, you know, in case something happens, you want to be able to help somebody in this particular situation. But he just ended up leaving because, you know, because you shouldn't rob things. That's what he probably thought in the end.

Maybe he wasn't going to rob it, but he was definitely going to rob that store. So there you go. Anyway, that's James' story about how he profiled an innocent man. If you had have seen this guy, Mason. It's a real good story about not judging Why was he

wearing the sunglasses? Sensitive eyes. The thing is as well he'd been crying about

the plight of children in Sudan. As hilarious as it was to be like this guy's disguise is

hilariously like cliche. Yeah. But it works because if you were like which of

these guys was it? I don't know. Yeah. Any of them. Yeah.

Yeah. So there you go. Wild. Yeah. Anyway. Good to know. That's Yeah. So there you go. Wild. Yeah. Anyway. Good to know. That's it.

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Weird. Well, I'm very much excited now to see how that stacks up with the rest of Quentin Tarantino's work and how Quentin Tarantino-y it is. Also, he's a famous editor whose name I cannot remember the name of. She passed away? She passed away. So these modern films she hasn't been editing. And I think you can kind of tell the difference

because they're so... But that's something we didn't talk about. They're so sharply edited. Yeah, right. Even though there's a lot of waffle in it, it's not really seconds wasted in it. You know what I mean? No, that's true, yeah.

Anyway. Well, it's interesting. We're finishing the episode, but just that he's a filmmaker that has never lost that edge. Like your guy, Richie. Sally Menke. It's like he never had an edge. You know what I mean?

Well, he did Lock, Stock. That's what I'm talking about. But all that signature stuff's gone away, but it's weird that Tarantino's hasn't. Anyway, we're going to talk about the edge. No, he made Aladdin. Aladdin was fun, but it wasn't... It's so edgy.

It wasn't... Yeah, you're right. It's true. Would you be so bold as to remake live-action Aladdin? No, I would not be that bold. That's true, exactly. Real bad boy of Hollywood right there. You got as much edges as a bloody rock smooth one.

No edges on it. An edgeless smooth rock. Okay, I get it. All right, thanks. Grab that gem, you guys. We'll see you next week. Goodbye. Bloody edgeless smooth rock, mate.

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