The Weekly Planet - 298 Obi Wan Series & Once Upon A Time In Hollywood

Episode Date: August 19, 2019

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Visit heartandstroke.ca. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. This episode is brought to you by Harry's Roses. Love Harry's Roses. Yeah. Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Weekly Planet Podcast where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. If I sound down, Mason, it's because, well, you know why. Peter Fonda died. Peter Fonda died, obviously. He's a easy rider and more accurate to our listeners and us, Ghost Rider.

Exactly. On top of that, also, we just did the entire episode just now. Oh, my God. So we're done. So I can go home. No, Mason. It's the magic hour. I'm going to go home and get a kebab.

It did not record. Oh, what? You're just telling me now. The ad spot recorded. Oh, my God. Well, that's the important thing. That's true. We always said if we ever lost an episode, it would be gone forever.

But professionalism took over because we needed to do an ad. It took over. Exactly. That's right. Yeah. We're beholden to our masters in Harry's Raises. Is that who we're doing this week? That's exactly it.

Yeah. So we thought, well, why not? You know, the true fans, Harry's Raises. Yeah. They'll get their episode. So this might be maybe a little bit shorter You know, the true fans, Harry's Razors. Yeah. They'll get their episode. So this might be maybe a little bit shorter. I don't know.

Or longer. Or longer because we're just kind of. It'll be shorter because we'll have to take out all this because we probably won't do the Seinfeld riff anymore. It was such a good riff. It was us existing in a world where we were both Seinfeld. But you'll never. Maybe we'll do it live one day. Yeah, maybe we will.

Dueling Seinfelds. I feel like the magic is gone though. We'll come up with new magic. Peter Fonda, of course, as you mentioned, passed away. The movie we have talked about. Are we going to be talking about this three times, the death of Peter Fonda? It seems that way.

A guy we barely know what he did. He's done a lot of good stuff. Name another thing besides Easy Rider and Ghost Rider. I really can't. But I know that he was a titan of filmmaking. Yes. And I will not stand down from that, Mason. Also, Richard Williams, who's an award-winning animator

behind Who Framed Roger Rabbit, also passed away at 86 this week. He did a lot of revolutionary stuff on that film. Captain Christian does an excellent video on the animation. The dog has absolutely gone bananas next to you. Did an excellent video on the animation behind that movie if you want to check out the work done on Who Framed Roger Rabbit because there's some really revolutionary stuff. Give me an example of a revolutionary thing.

Well, basically they used motorised arms to stand in for characters so they could pass things and move through doorways and whatever, just to kind of give more life to the scene. Imagine Space Jam but without green screen. I cannot imagine Space Jam with or without green screen. You love Space Jam, right? I don't know if I've ever seen Space Jam all the way through. Well, we're going to have to do it for Caravan of Garbage.

Why? Why? Because they're remaking it? Yes. Oh, and they're doing a sequel with another basketball player. Oh, is it lebron sure okay yep good say that it is all right good uh we also got to mention our charity campaign is just about to hit halfway to the fifty thousand dollars raised uh of course every dollar that's raised is doubled and that money goes towards making a seaweed farm which cuts down co2 emissions my god you're so professional about this one when you get well i

had a lot of time to warm up, didn't I? You absolutely did. That's true. Well, it's interesting because we will have to go through, we're going to have to talk about the same stuff again. Yeah. But, yeah, well, we're really going to be on the ball. We're just going to have to pretend that we didn't hear the other person

say the exact same thing they've already said. We're just going to have to let that go. Well, I mean, you know, a lot of the time I'll say something, I'll say a joke and you'll react the same way whether you've heard it before or not. I've got a laugh track now on this machine. Please don't touch the machine. Please don't.

That made you very nervous? Yes, exactly. Look, the big recording button is red. It's red, so that's a good sign. I don't know what else we need from it. That's really all we need, isn't it? Yeah, I think so. Okay.

Anything else? Oh, yeah, so the Intrepid Foundation, as you mentioned. Yeah, that's right, yeah. We did forget to mention that twice. That's right. And, of course, there are a bunch of perks that you get from that. We're doing a bonus Q&A episode, which we'll definitely record only once. Oh, my God.

So if you donate any amount of money, you can ask a question. There's going to be prizes. So please donate if you can. Also, Episode, you can ask a question, there's going to be prizes. So please, donate if you can. Also, episode 300 is coming up in two episodes. What do you want us to do? At episode 200 with Star Wars prequels, we were thinking maybe the Matrix films. We could do a superhero showdown.

It's really up to the people, isn't it, Mason? Are you going to try and sneak in two more episodes before episode 300? Because you would technically still be on episode 398. Okay, well, do you want to celebrate at 302 then? I mean, you can celebrate on 302. Well, this is technically episode 299. We're one ahead now. Oh, my God, you're right.

Episode 300 is next week. Oh, my God. What a world. I know, right? Mason, I hate to do this to you, but we've got Star Wars news. The sheer indignity that it is Star Wars news, the news that I hate the most. Well, you know what?

The news that I like the least, I still like it a little bit. Sure. I like the fact that there is news of any kind. Yeah. But the indignity of having to listen to it twice, it's the same news from a few moments ago. You got a break last week. I feel like this is only fitting.

Yeah, you're right. It's only fair. It's like when you take a week off work and you get back and you're like, I've got double the workload. It didn't feel like a holiday at all. That's not how my job works at all. You don't have to drive two trams? No, yeah.

Like straddling between? No, I do have to do that. You're right. Yeah, you're right. Are you striking, by the way? Not so far, but maybe. Yeah, okay. Oh, you know what?

There's going to be an out of uniform day. Oh, really are you gonna wear next week well i'm not i'm not working that day oh okay well that means like the next day that's part of my signature look obviously i wear a fedora at work so i'd have to wear something different can you actually wear a hat as a tram driver there are assorted hats they're right uh that they work related hats yeah they're work related hats there's like a beanie and like a baseball cap kind of situation. Can you wear it backwards? No, absolutely not. That's wild.

I have an odd-shaped skull. Physically, I cannot wear them backwards. No, but are you allowed to? No, of course not. Okay, I understand now. Anyway. Some drivers have like a Cobra hat kind of situation. Yeah, right.

I don't know where they come from. Yeah, the bin. Because they're no good, mate. Brutal. So the Obi-Wan Star Wars series looks like it's officially happening. Variety even weighing in on this. It's not confirmed. Next week is D23.

But it's basically Ewan McGregor is set to return as his character, Obi-Wan Kenobi from Star Wars. Okay, right. Not the character from Trainspotting. He's not. Okay. Here's something I didn't mention last time we didn't record this. Oh, yes.

They mentioned there's going to be a returning, like, robot-y metal character. So there could be a Grievous. A robot-y metal character. Yeah, it could be a Grievous. It could be a Darth Maul. It could be a C-3PO. Are you getting me?

Do you think it's maybe, like, Grievous' head that he carries around in, like, a bowling ball bag or something like that? Well, he didn't behead Grievous, but I can imagine that he might have gone back for it. Sure, why not? But his head caught fire. It burnt his eyes. It came out through the eyes. Is that what happened?

Yeah, yeah. He shot him in the chest and his whole body, what was left of it, just incinerated. In Attack of the Clones or whichever one he was in? The third one, Revenge of the Sith. So, okay. Mason, we talked about it in episode 200. How do you not remember? Oh, my God.

Okay, that's exciting. Because that's the thing. What do we know about Obi-Wan Kenobi? What do you mean? What's he like? Would he collect a trophy? Would he collect a severed head of a man? Or a robot man?

No, I don't think so. so i mean they're all kind of weird dead-eyed psychopaths aren't they under the guise of peace yeah see that's what i'm talking about yeah i know they collect like ancient artifacts and yeah things like that is this just going to be him like is this just going to be like 13 hours of stoicism yeah right okay maybe because i don't i'm not on board i don't think so i think it's going to be like 13 hours of stoicism yeah right okay maybe because i don't i'm not on board i don't think so i think it's going to be like local crime lord stuff there's a few comics that they've made in canon and do you think he's just going to be like wryly amused by everything no i think he's going to be like i used to be cool and now i'm hot because it's so hot that's his famous

catchphrase yeah i used to be he used to be, but now he's hot and he's tipping those shades. That's right. I used to be cool. But now I'm hot. Hot. Yeah. So, look, this has been seemingly in the works since they announced they were rebooting, not rebooting, like bringing all these back. Yeah, yeah. I really want to see this and I hope it's good.

Apparently it's a limited series. The Mandalorian is going to be ongoing. This will be kind of one and done, it seems. Unless it does really well and then they'll do another one. For sure. But he actually, do you know which new Star Wars stuff he's actually turned up in? Obi-Wan Kenobi. Yeah.

Showed up one time. He's in The Force Awakens in that weird Force vision scene. Oh, I see. Right. It's a combination of him and Alec Guinness. Say hello there. Hello there. I was hot, but now I'm cold.

Whatever his catchphrase is. He used to be cool, but now he's hot. I was hot, but now I'm cold. Very good. It didn't work. I tried to bring the Seinfeld back. Didn't feel it. I understand.

Thank you. What else we got here? More Star Wars news, Mason. You know that. You don't have to speed through it. Slow it down for the listener. That's all right. No, what else is there to say?

Did we cover all that? I think so, yeah. Let's look at other Star Wars news. Okay. The Hollywood Reporter has reported that the Game of... This rag. I know, right? The Game of Thrones duo, David Benioff and D.B. Weiss,

their treatment for a Star Wars... See, positive. Last time we had to look up their names. We did, that's right. Just fly... We should do this every week. I know, right? They're writing the treatment for a Star Wars trilogy

and they're committed to penning at least one of the films and the original deal was to write three. So it's unclear what this is going to look like. Right. Is this them shirking their duties? Yes. Is this Disney panicking and being like, well, we don't trust them actually to write three,

so we'll just give them one? Or is this the case of they got their foot in the door, they signed the contract? Are these guys, like, the people at your job who are like, what can I get away with not doing? Like, what's the absolute bare minimum I can do and not be fired? And they're like, we can just write one. They'll never know.

Because they've got that Netflix deal. What does that mean? Does it just mean they're going to sit in a room and be like, what if there was a cowboy, but he drove two trams? Or a fedora, or whatever. Right. You know what I mean? Yeah.

Well, first of all, he'd be sued for intellectual property theft, both of them. Yes. But are they just throwing out ideas, or is it? Yeah. What level of development is there? Or are they like, is it some sort of think tank? Yeah.

Like, I don't know anything about these guys. What do I know about these guys? But I mean, what do I know about these guys? We looked up their stuff. Yeah, I know. But I guess my question would be like, are they the kind of people who would be like, okay, we've got this Netflix deal.

Now we'll bring in a group, like a think tank. Yeah, okay, gotcha. Like a group of writers. But we did look them up. So they did... Some novels, some minor TV stuff here and there, but nothing... The Game of Thrones is the thing.

Yeah, that's it. So look, what do you even say? You know what I mean? What do you say that hasn't already been said? They've got a proven track record that was good for a while and they're not good at all but i do wonder if maybe they're looking at like they're good at adapting things it would seem yeah until when the guiding hand of the person creating it is right there but so but now if they're so they're bringing lucas back well maybe maybe there's been room not rumors there's been speculation they're going to bring

George Lucas back for something to like, you know, have a hand in. With his permission, you would hope. They're going to bring him back against his will.

He just wants to hang out in food courts in Adelaide and they won't let him. He just wants to live his life in Adelaide, in a food court. What does his wife do? That's why he was there, right?

I don't know. Okay. I know she's some kind of high-flying person. Yeah, and she was at some development conference or something like that. Yeah, right. And then he was just like, well, going to go to a food court in Adelaide. Yeah, I got some spare coin and time, so why wouldn't I?

I'm good on him. In other Star Wars news, Mason. Rian Johnson has talked about his trilogy, which is also maybe still happening or not happening again we'll probably find out more at d23 but he says basically he's doing something that steps beyond the legacy characters uh the blue sky element is what's striking about it is because etc and so forth finding out what the essence of star wars is and look i said it the last time and i'll say it again he's never good of course it's going to be the essence of Star Wars.

He's never going to go, yeah, we're going to do all the stuff you like. We're not going to do that. We're going to do new stuff that you're going to hate. You know me, Rian Johnson, the guy that made the one that a lot of people hate? Well, I'm going to do more new stuff that you're probably going to hate. Surprise, idiots. I think people would be less inclined to hate this. We like The Last Jedi. Yes. But if he hadn't made The Last Jedi and then was coming into this, idiots i think people would be less inclined to hate this if well i would we like the last jedi

yes but uh if he hadn't made the last jedi and then was coming into this i think people would be more open to changes in the star wars universe when they're not you're not using legacy characters you've invented a new character yeah that's true you're right trim tram dim damn so you know what i mean yep you're telling me that's not all your Star Wars character? I'm probably going to sue him for intellectual property theft, but all right. Yes. So there's these two trilogies that they're making. Yes. But when?

Even the logistics of when they're going to be coming out or what platform, I don't know. Yeah, or have they got these people on the hook and they're like, look, sometime in the next 15 years you have to make these? Or is it like 2020, we're putting six movies out? There's no way of knowing. That's right. I mean, there is a way of knowing. It's them telling us.

D23. Yeah, that's right. We'll find out, won't we? Speaking of Disney, Mason, Disney are talking about an Aladdin sequel. Will we get Return of Jafar? Will we get King of Thieves? Will we get King of Thieves? Will we get that cartoon, the show that was on Saturday morning? Was there a – no?

Yeah, there was an Aladdin TV series. Dan Kasten and Alain Lelot was the TV show. Oh, I see. Right, okay. Like he was in some of the movies. Yeah. So just Return of the Jafar. Yeah.

That's all you want? Well, he recorded everything for King of Thieves, but then they got Robin Williams back and Good Faith and whatever. Oh, I see. So they redid it all. Yeah. But thanks for coming in, Dan. Yeah, thanks, Dan.

Regardless. I mean, he's not hurting for work, though. He doesn't care. It's not like he's struggling. They get six million an episode for Simpsons each or whatever. Is it really? It's crazy. I don't know what it is, but it's a lot.

Yeah. It's in the millions. Well, I was just – crazy. I don't know what it is, but it's a lot. Yeah. It's in the millions. Well, I was just, exactly. I was just thinking about that the other day, apropos of nothing, just at work. Yeah. Just thinking about how Harry Shearer like records from his house and he gets a million dollars an episode. And some days, I imagine that'd be one line.

Because he'd be doing, like, maybe Mr. Burns and Smithers aren't in this episode. So he's just like. But it's harder for him than it would be, say, the woman who does Lisa. Because I think she only does Lisa. Right. So he does six to eight characters or whatever. Sure. And Lisa's just like, there's too many meat eaters or whatever.

Whatever Lisa's doing now in The Simpsons. She's a meat eater now. There's too many meat eaters and I love it. I don't know. I don't know what they're up to. Me neither. So that's, we talked about this before, but the natural progression of these live action movies.

They clearly make money. All of them except Dumbo have done incredibly successfully. The two this year have both hit a billion dollars. Should they take another crack at Dumbo is the question. Never in a million years. We didn't know if it was bad or not. What do you think? Yes, it was bad.

But I didn't see it. So I can't say with any level of authority. But I'm going to. It was bad. It was bad probably. Also apparently it goes beyond the story of Dumbo because Dumbo goes for like hours. How dare they?

I know. Yeah, right. So it continues on from that. It wasn't just like long establishing shots of Dumbo. It wasn't just like an extended sadness sequence where he walks around the circus grounds on a chain or whatever. The whole thing is an extended sadness sequence. That's what I'm talking about, yeah.

Don't know any more of that. But also Lion King is now the highest grossing animated film of all time, the new one, already. So there you go. And we loved it. So that's good. We didn't love it, though? I didn't like it.

I also didn't like it. And that's, it's just, but okay, is the next one going to be, is the next one going to build on this, or is this just a case of people are like, okay, we've got to see this just to see if it is something, and then next time we will not. But kids would love it. Like, my son really liked it.

But he still likes the animated one more. Yeah, he does, yeah. But, you know, so it's a new generation of kids, and that's the movie that you take your kids to, you know what I mean? Or you just go see if you're at the cinema. Like, I guess it's one of those situations yeah good isn't it so it's a it's a it's it's this it's the cinema of depressed resignation i guess i guess we'll see i guess we'll see this is either this or see this or nothing see this or interact with my children and learn what they're actually

like i don't want to do that. Gross. Yuck. Oh, man. Yuck. I just want my kids to sit in relative silence for two hours. Can I listen to a Joe Rogan podcast while I watch this? Absolutely, I can. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

Imagine if you were on DMT and doing MMA. Imagine what that would be like. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Alchemy. I should try some alchemy. Is he all about alchemy? He loves alchemy. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Elk meat. I should try some elk meat. Is he all about elk meat? He loves elk meat.

Yeah, he's into it. Good on him. I watched... Have you ever seen Binging with Babish? It's that... No. It's a YouTube channel about... I know what it is.

Yeah, it's a guy and he makes kind of dishes from TV and movies and stuff like that. And there's one where he makes an every meat burrito because it's in... Every meat? It's called... Well, that's the thing. It's called... You got rabbit in meat? Well, that's the thing. It's called-

You got rabbit in there? Maybe, but it was on regular show or Adventure Time or something like that. But he goes to this place in, I think it's New York, where they just sell weird meats and he's getting like python meat and just- Did it look good? No. I mean, I've eaten snake before. You've eaten snake?

Yeah, I've eaten snake. What's it like? Chicken. They're all like chicken. They all taste like chicken. That's true. Every weird meat I've eaten snake before. You've eaten snake? Yeah, I've eaten snake. What's it like? Chicken. They're all like chicken. They all taste like chicken. That's true. Every weird meat I've ever had tastes like chicken. If you bought a weird meat and it tasted like anything else,

there'd be a shelf for it. Like there'd be a python shelf in the supermarket. But it's cheaper to raise chickens than it is to raise pythons, I assume. Look into it. Chickens are less poisonous? Than a python? I don't think pythons are poisonous. I think they'll just strangle you with a rope.

Well, then I'm not getting that out of my poultry cabinet at the bloody reptile poultry cabinet at the supermarket. It's going to strangle me in my sleep. With a rope. With a rope. Now I get it. going to strangle me in my sleep. With a rope.

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Tickets on sale now. Robocop returns. Or does he? Or do he be? I'll head you off at the pass here. He doesn't. Unless they're still making it. He's got a tweet that says,

Off Robocop. I'm shooting a new horror thriller and MGM can't wait. They need to shoot Robocop now. Excited to watch it in theatres with other fans. Are you? Yeah, I don't think. Are you, Neil? I wonder about the, like, famous directors.

Do they, or anybody at that level, Edgar Wright didn't say Ant-Man, presumably. Well, yeah, I guess that's true. But do they even enjoy movies? Yeah. All right, then. I mean, I think it'd be hard to watch a movie that you were i mean we don't know whether it kicked off maybe this is legitimate that's true

but i'd imagine because i know they're talking about doing a super r-rated direct sequel to the original one and and what like the paul verhoeven classic yeah so maybe they got cold feet on that vision that's oh that might be true yeah they want to sell more lunchboxes. I know I do. Isn't it weird they had that Robocop line of toys when we were kids? Same with Terminator.

Like it's Terminator with action chest and the chest opens up and there's another head in there or something. Yeah, there'd be a grappling hook. There'd always be a grappling hook.

It'd be like Terminator wall climbing action and you'd be like, did the Terminator climb any walls? He didn't climb zero walls. He maybe ran through a wall. Yeah, exactly. He made him.

This Terminator's covered in moss. He stinks. And there's the kid on the ads going, why? Why is this? Why are you making me do this? I don't know. When we talked about this earlier, you were like, who's the new,

who could direct this one? And then I just, I was just churning it over in my mind. I'm like, who's the new, who could direct this one? And then I was just churning it over in my mind. I'm like, oh, the District 9 guy could do it. I'm like, oh, no, that is Neil Blomkamp. They're two steps ahead of you. But I also mentioned Paul Verhoeven might be, he's like 81 now though. Okay. But, you know, he did.

I mean, I'm sure they would probably get, they could get him just to say they get, you know. Yeah, yeah exactly we're in that era where they'd be like we'll get him just say we got him and then everybody else they got exactly the producers do everything too yeah yes it's exactly like how they got frank miller for sin city too yes you watch that yet still on your ipad still on still my ipad i think it's on netflix as well or something so i can watch it on any medium i choose that's so exciting. Yeah. We took a quick break there to make sure this was recording. Yep, and it did. And it did.

Seamless. So now we have an ad. Yep. And we have... Maybe 21, 24 minutes of a show in total. 21 to 24 minutes of a show. We've got all the news, so that's done. So even if this doesn't record, I'm leaving.

We don't have all the... I'm just kidding. We don't have all the news, Mason. Oh, really? Because we've still got Krypton. It's been cancelled. It's been cancelled. It's been cancelled, yeah. Over at the Syfy Network.

They're also working on a Lobo spin-off series. So that's also cancelled? That's also cancelled. It may move to another network, maybe a DC streaming platform, maybe a bin. We don't know yet. I like Krypton Season 1, which is the one that I watched, and it really surprised me. Apparently Pennyworth is quite good as well. Is that out?

Yeah. What? There's too many shows and they should cancel some, starting with Krypton, in my opinion. Well, Mason, they're two steps ahead of you. Oh, boy. Yeah, so you've never watched this? No, no.

But I've seen the occasional ad and I'm like, ooh, intriguing, Leather Jacket Man. Leather Jacket, yeah, exactly. There's a lot of people being like, you're my grandpa from the future. Your son's going to be Superman. How's a leather jacket close? With a zip?

Yeah, a zip at the back. Really? I don't know. Okay, right. That always throws me whenever you're like, this man's from an alien race and they're light years ahead of us. How does his jacket do it? Oh, zip.

It's got a zip on it. At the back. Because you know this about the planet Krypton. In a lot of ways they are ahead, but they fall behind and say your planet is exploding. That's true. So I think it would be the same with leather jackets. They're not quite there.

In many ways they're ahead of us, but in two ways, jackets and exploding planets, they are behind. Get to the escape pods. This one isn't opening. There's a zip at the front. I don't understand it. Help.

But Jor-El, he knows. He knows. He can open a zip from the front or the back or the side. And he knows Kung Fu. Yep. Remember? Russell Crowe knew Kung Fu. Now I remember.

Yeah, okay. Do you think they, in the Man of Steel universe, which it's dead. Sure. Do you think they imprint them with Kung Fu when they're born? Or do you think Russell Crowe went, anybody can be anybody. I'm lend me some fucking kung fu just oh i see i i i'd never thought about it and i never will think about it after this moment but i wouldn't get the impression that maybe he was in the military like there's a certain amount of military training but again who are they fighting besides like the insurgents. Well, they colonized, didn't they?

Oh no, his generation didn't, did they? Yeah. Maybe he did learn Kung Fu on his own time. Yeah. Because then they'd be like, Scott knows Kung Fu. We didn't know that. Sure. Yeah.

We just use the traditional 1950s method of fighting, which is just you swing a punch and then somebody blocks it and then they punch you. Whoever gets in first, swing a punch, block, then they punch you. Repeat 1,000 times. That's right. That's how you win a war. Yeah. If anybody ever bends down, double fist punch on the back.

On the back, yes. Wham. You'd go for the kidneys, wouldn't you? I don't know. Double fist punch on the back. What is that? We should test that out sometime. On each other?

Yes. On someone unsuspecting. On whoever borrowed the Zoom and went to Perth. Claire. Yeah, your wife. God damn it, Claire. We should do that because we've talked about, I think, we were talking about earlier, maybe off air,

or maybe on that recording that didn't work. You were talking about how much you hate scientists talking about superhero stuff. Like they're kind of like... What if Thor's hammer weighs as much as a star? If you technically put it down on Earth,

it would go to the centre of the planet. But when you relate... Shut up. It doesn't matter. None of it matters. I need the bare minimum explanation. Yes.

But some people don't. That's the... No, you're right. I think obviously there's value in that. I just don't... I don't care. But anyway, what I was going to say is,

because we were at one point, we were a friend Hollywood Pete. Can we talk about this? I guess. Yeah, a friend Hollywood Pete was like, you should record, they were working on a pilot of like Mythbusters, but for superheroes.

Which I think the Mythbusters guy is maybe even doing now. He probably is doing that now, or has done it. Who knows? He's very productive. I think he made a real Iron Man suit or something recently. I saw, by chance, I turned on the TV and I saw the final ever episode of Mythbusters and all they did was they just got all the previous myths like in prop form and just crashed into them with a truck.

Oh, yeah. It makes sense. Just the whole, they were like, all right, here's all our major, here's all our major, like here's the rocket car and here's all our major, like here's the rocket car and here's all the black, like up until, you know, for years and years. And they just put them all in a line and he just drove through them in the truck.

And then they just never spoke again because apparently those guys do not get along. Well, he wasn't, I don't think it was, I don't think Jamie was in the last episode, mate. Oh, really? Yeah, I don't think he was in the last one. No, he was in that row of things that they ran into. They put him in the truck of the rocket car.

Anyway, I was going to say, we should, instead of doing Mythbusters but for superheroes, we should do Mythbusters but for like awkward 1960s fighting techniques in movies. So we'll try the back punch.

We'll see if it hurts. Okay, so what happens? Yeah, okay. It's not a bad idea. Do we want to get people who can actually fight to do it though? Because like we couldn't

hurt somebody by doing that. Oh, that's a really good point. But maybe if you're good at it. But have you ever seen that in any kind of fight ever? We'd have to get somebody like the size and weight of a somebody by doing that. Oh, that's a really good point. But maybe if you're good at it. But have you ever seen that in any kind of fight ever? We'd have to get somebody like the size and weight of a William Shatner. Yeah, right. Fitz William Shatner.

I was going to say, because we could probably get William Shatner. Yeah, right. Probably. And then, yeah. So, okay. So, back punch. Yep. Judo chop to the neck.

Yeah, that's a good one. Awkward flip. The awkward shoulder throw. Awkward judo shoulder throw. I reckon we could get him if we went to those conventions and we lined up for an hour and then we went, as they're taking the photo, like, okay, I want you to hit me in the back as hard as you can.

You'd probably do it. No. The double fist? I think maybe he would go for it, but then I think maybe his mind would be like, you cannot hit somebody until they sign this waiver, and then you can hit them all you like. Yeah, but he's already hit us by that point.

That's true. And the last bit of news is Disney have allegedly believed that this is what's been said, it's been rumoured, have I practised this before? That the New Mutants has a limited box office potential and they're very unimpressed with the movie in itself. So what's going to happen to it? Nothing, I guess.

I guess. Would they even... I mean, you know, the standard response is, well, they'll probably put it on streaming. They'll put it on... It'll be seen as it's a bad movie release, but it'll be a real draw card for Disney+, when that finally gets going.

But I don't know if they'd risk even that. Like it might be like, hey, it's Disney Plus. The first thing you can get is a real dud. I think people would be like, I won't actually. Yeah, I'd rather see something good and new. Because they're building premium stuff, it would seem, or they're attempting to. We haven't seen any of it yet.

And also, if this is the first, this could be perceived as the first output of Uten's stuff under the Marvel new banner the first, this could be perceived as the first output of Newton's stuff under the Marvel new banner. Yeah, yeah. So is this the new, I mean, even though,

obviously this is not going to be folded into the MCU. People might be confused. It might be more damaging. It might be folded into the glass unbreakable cinematic.

Who cares? Don't fold it into that. That's fine. Fold it absolutely into that. Just at the end we go, we're all James McAvoy's personalities,

all right? Yeah, we're all, we all, we personalities, all right? Yeah, we're all living in an asylum. But in many ways, don't we all live in an asylum? Maybe the lunatics are running the bloody asylum politics, you know what I mean? I know what you mean. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe what they'll do is they'll release Disney+,

all the premium WandaVision, Bucky, and Falcon and Winter Soldier, et cetera, and then like a year later they'll be like stealth drop it yeah just stealth drop it in like you you'll get that notification it's like disney plus have added a thing you might like on your email and you go no i don't think i will i reckon they'll put it on four cds and leave it in a library and then people can then it will spread by audio only yeah whatever maybe some of its audio some of it's not okay yeah it's just that four by three and it's in like a cd wallet yeah that's right yeah okay right oh you know

what they put it in a cd wallet and they'll stick it under the front seat of somebody's car oh yeah and if they eventually they're on a long road trip and they dig it out they're like oh what's this this this some video cd yeah so there you go that's where we're at with new mutants will we ever see it potentially not but i'm i mean i think they'll just it's very just if it's going to be anywhere it's streaming it might even go hulu they're in hulu they might even give it to netflix look i understand that if if you you know if you release something there's got to be a marketing budget behind it. And they're like, oh, we'll never recoup the costs or whatever. But it just seems odd that they would literally never release it.

But how much stuff... But also, Disney have the Disney Vault. I don't know if they do it these days still. They put their racer stuff in there. Yeah, right, right. But it used to be this idea of every couple of years, they were like, hey, now you can get Aladdin on VHS and then it would be around for a while and then it would just get recalled

and you just couldn't get it for a number of years. So, I mean, if they're willing to do that, I guess they're also willing to be like, you'll never see this movie. Yeah, absolutely. They'll put it next to that Jerry Lewis film that never came out. Which one? It was some sort of Nazi Holocaust clown movie.

What? It's called The Day the Laughter Died or something. Really? Yeah, he made it and it was his... I don't think Disney have it, but he would only ever play it at his house or something like that. For who? People he hated? Yeah.

Yep. Wow. Absolutely. That's old Hollywood for you. Boy, is it. We should get him on the show. That's old Hollywood for you. Boy, is it. We should get him on the show. Jerry Lewis? Yeah.

Is he still alive? No. Okay. Very good. Yeah. The Day the Laughter Died. I'm going to look it up. Okay.

Look, we'll come back to it, but we won't come back to it. I'll put an ad in here and then- Oh, then we'll get back to what people are really waiting for, which is me talking about a Jerry Lewis film that you can't see. Mason, in an ad time, I like to ask important questions like, if Captain America shaved what people are really waiting for, which is me talking about a Jerry Lewis film that you can't see. Mason, in an ad time, I like to ask important questions like, if Captain America shaved in a movie, the movie Avengers Endgame, what quality, durable razor...

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The moment you've all been waiting for. Here we go. It's called The Day the Clown Cried, an unreleased 1972 Swedish-French drama film directed by and starring Jerry Lewis. Holy hell. Is it with Disney? No.

Oh. I mean, Disney may own it. Yeah. They probably have a copy. Apparently, it's been never... Despite his statements in interviews he had arranged so the film will never be screened, there are reports he donated a copy of the film

to the Library of Congress in 2015 under the stipulation that it wouldn't be screened before June 2024. June 2024. Okay, that's coming up, isn't it? Yeah, that's right. Are you excited? I'd never heard of it, but yes.

No, I'm not excited. Would you watch that, though? Absolutely not, no. Yeah. No, no, no. Because it's not good, is it? Surely not, no. Yeah.

I mean, it sounds funny. At the end, he is so filled with remorse that he remains with them that the jewish people in the whole in the in the death camp are taking young girls hands and walks with them into the chamber fuck it's a comedy though no wait it's not as a drama oh is it yeah yeah yeah wow sounds very tasteful yeah okay maybe it's brilliant but it's not hey uh speaking speaking of old Hollywood. Yes. Once upon a time in Hollywood. This is just me attempting to get you to segue to Hollywood stuff.

I'm like, oh, how about Hollywood? How about old things from Hollywood? How about stud work from Hollywood? Stud work, yes. You got anything to say about that? No. So far it's made $140 million worldwide, which is great for an R-rated film. Obviously it's a Quentin Tarantino movie,

so people are like, what's this hot new director up to in terms of Hollywood productions? And now we know. It's Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. I'm on hemp for Seema. This is a great joke I did in the previous recording. It is not.

This is fresh. This is fresh and nonsensical. So, here's something I said. I respect you taking a swing for the fences there with this new guy, out of breath Hollywood reporter. Yeah, that's right. Who's this hot new director? I like him, actually.

Now that I've done it, I see the appeal of it. Okay, good. Well, it's yours. Thank you. Brabs Pit, Mason. I said that before. Because of his abs. His abs, yeah.

Leonardo DiCaprio. Watch them drive around Hollywood until you can't stand it anymore. Some people tap out early. Some people will stick around for the whole ride. Boy, what a ride. What did you think the story was? Okay, here we go. It's Hollywood.

It's the late 60s. I'm just going to close that door because it's hot and cold in here somehow. Yeah, I know. Nice. So it's bloody Leo's Rick Dalton. He's a man. He's an actor who was a big, big star in the 50s on TV. He attempted to transition over to mainstream.

Did it work? I closed the door and then the dog just kicked it open. Nice. You and the dog. So, yeah, go on. He's Burt Reynolds and Steve McQueen all rolled into one.

Neither of those men were successful. Yes that's right. And I think I think did did Reynolds and McQueen had that trajectory right. They started doing

TV stuff. Basically. Yeah. So that's kind of the parallel to this because the idea of Leonardo DiCaprio's character is that he rose to fame

the same time as Steve McQueen which is this is sort of mentioned in the movie and we see steve mcqueen but he was stuck in this 1950s slick pompadour hairstyle kind of yeah kind of tough guy kind of situation and they both had an opportunity to kind of break out and steve mcqueen moved with the time so we see in this movie and he's got a cool shag in you do he's being played by damien lewis yes and uh initially i'm like he doesn't look anything like steve mcqueen and then he turned his head slightly and i'm like oh my god steve mcqueen's still alive well the wig does a lot of the heavy lifting the wig but also the face at certain angles he does a good job yeah yeah anyway so but he's so now uh so now dalton is sort of he's been

relegated to like the heavy role which is like i was that when when i watch this i think always think of like wolverine because like you know wolverine's the ultimate tough guy sure so in a comic book if you want your new character to be perceived as tough you just you have wolverine show up and he beats up wolverine yeah right so. So kind of Dalton is that role now. He shows up on a TV show as the bad guy because people remember him as the old tough guy from his TV show. Yes. And then the new character just kills the heavy or beats him up or whatever. A toothy elephant, if you will.

Yeah, so exactly. So now he's being relegated to this role, but eventually he knows his star's going to dim because people will be like, oh, it's that guy who keeps getting beaten up on TV. He'll become that guy and then people will lose respect for him and kind of his career is on the... Where's the luster?

Exactly. And this isn't said explicitly in the movie, but they've confirmed this outside of it, that he's based on a TV actor of the time who killed himself. Well, they're based on a lot of people, but this particular actor was suspected now in hindsight was bipolar. Right. And you definitely see that in DiCaprio's character because one minute he's like,

I'm riding high, I'm living next to Sharon Tate and I'm loving life and Hollywood's the best and this is why you live in the hills, baby. And the next minute he's like, why do I do anything? Exactly. I'm living in the hills. What was I thinking? These hills are so steep. I've got to sell my house.

I smoke too much. He does smoke too much. He smokes far too much. I wonder about this. Do you think that Brad Pitt is like, oh, my God, I'm loving this. I'm just smoking all day. I mean, this is so good. It's interesting, though, because Brad Pitt's character doesn't drink

or smoke nearly as much as DiCaprio. He seems to do it more as a kind of a leisure activity, and yet DiCaprio's character is like is heavily reliant on it right okay because they when they like they both go to the bar but he gets like a bloody mary or whatever and he'll crack a beer when he gets home but dicaprio is all day chaining i think brad pitt doesn't have his first cigarette till he gets home i believe oh yeah i'm keeping i'm keeping eyes on him i'm like how many darts you punch in a day brad pitt brabs pitt well i mean exactly i mean you know brabs p, dad bod DiCaprio.

That's right. That's true, yeah. I mean, that's a lesson for all of us, I think. Anyway, Brabs Pitt is in this as well. Yes. He's Booth. He is formerly Dalton's stunt double, although he doesn't get much work these days.

Now he's just sort of like the general dog's body. He's like the gopher. And he's just sort of like the general dog's body he's like yeah the the the gopher and he's kind of he's maligned in hollywood for a reason we will talk about in spoilers yes uh so so he's kind of yeah he's mostly odd jobs and he's he's odd jobs and he and he drives dalton around because dalton lost his driver's license and you know he just he fixes problems and stuff and apparently like this part of their this part of the character's relationship is based on burt reynolds and hal needham uh burt reynolds the actor yes and then hal needham who was his stunt double and friend who lived with or lived in his guest house for like a decade or more and it's it's fascinating to me this i because the relationship i couldn't

understand in this like i like the relationship but i don't know why those two are friends it doesn't make sense to me at all i'm not saying it breaks the movie i again i like the relationship but i don't know why those two are friends it doesn't make sense to me at all i'm not saying it breaks the movie i again i like it but i'm just confused as to what is this dynamic exactly and i'm saying that presumably whatever whatever the story is between these characters is the same as the story behind the real life yes actors whatever that is yeah like it does seem bizarre that he would live, they would be two friends who work together and then they live together for a decade. Yeah.

In separate houses, essentially. Again, like, maybe it's because they were just great friends or maybe it's because something in Needham's past meant he couldn't get a house on his own. I don't know. We don't know. We don't know. Yeah, exactly.

Also, I thought it was okay. You thought the whole movie was okay? I thought a lot of it was really good, in particular the DiCaprio. I think the movie kind of takes a few turns, one in particular at the end, but I found you didn't really need to do that kind of Tarantino-esque explosion of violence,

I guess, without going too far into it. I think this movie works on its own outside of that, except for the meandering driving, which they really just show every second of taking every corner multiple times and then you'll see someone back the car out and you see every bit and all of it. Yeah, which I maintain is the style of movies from the 60s where there was a lot of space and they would do that,

because why set up, why do a million camera setups of a car yeah from every conceivable angle and make it look dynamic when you just put up one camera and see the car reverse and then go down a driveway but i mean maybe that's i mean i i assume that's deliberate on tarantino's part absolutely yeah but again this this for me this movie is again it's i i liked the the ride we went on. It's this slice of life of these characters. But again, every criticism I've read of it since then and I've spoken to people about, they're all very valid. This movie is so meandering. The female characters have not a lot to do.

They're kind of background. Although I think it does pass the Bechdel test. Okay, great. Because Sharon Tate asks a cinema employee if she can see a movie for free. background although i think it does pass the bechdel test okay great because uh uh sharon tate asks a uh cinema employee if she can see a movie for free oh yeah that's okay so that counts yeah they're talking about a man so unless you consider all movies to be men i do oh then they're not uh no yeah they're beautiful ladies they're beautiful ladies of the silver screen that's what they all are uh but yeah but and yeah yeah, this movie's meandering.

But I guess that's the point. It's Tarantino's love letter to old Hollywood. And I know a lot of his movies are meandering on purpose. I just think there's too much of it in this, in particular the driving. Because there's the moment where Brad Pitt goes home to feed his dog. Yes. And it's ten minutes of him getting the dog food and making his mac and cheese. He's not eating mac and cheese, that dude.

I know what you're up to, Brad Pitt. Don't be tricking me that you're eating mac and cheese. Well, you never see him exercise, I don't think. Well, you see the weights, though. And there's a moment where he parkours onto them. Oh, is he bloody lifting the mac and cheese away? Is he lifting it into his bloody gob? I'll tell you what.

But there's a bench press out there. He lives in a trailer just outside his house. He lives in a trailer across from a drive-in movie that's true which uh which actually i saw an interview with brad pitt where he talked about when he was a kid they used to like go down the drive-in and just watch him there like just what you know just walk down and it's magical it's so magical watch just watch watch watching the beautiful ladies of the silver screen i think you mean the gentleman of the silver screen, basically. Because as we know, all movies are men. So that stuff I enjoy, but then it's like,

do you want to see just an open road kind of stretch of Hollywood freeway and all these old cars that they got back and all the signs that they didn't really put in digitally, they made real signs. Do you want to see that forever? Do you want to see 47 minutes of that in this movie? Well, Tarantino certainly does, and he's allowed to do that. some people some people do i reckon i but that's the thing i can't say i was bored yeah during those moments but i just feel like what are you adding to this last time we didn't speaking of what are you adding to this last time we didn't even talk about pacino

pacino's in this wow yeah exactly what's he adding to this that's him that's him being a machine gun okay what other things could he be that's! That's him being a machine gun. What other things could he be? This is him being a baby's rattle. Ra-ta-ta-ta-ta! So, yeah, Potato is... Just before I forget, Sally Menke, who edited all Tarantino's films, Uptook and Glorious Bastards,

and who then passed away just after that, I think has really been missing through these Tarantino films post her death. bastards and who then passed away just after that i think has really been missing through these tarantino films post her death and i think they've become longer and more kind of meandering and i would see i mean how tight is pop fiction no i agree and i would 100 agree with you up until hateful eight which i thought was just this bloated mess of a movie okay sure yeah but i think i think this is no more meandering than say say, in Glorious Basterds where we see him talking about getting a serve of milk or the point where Christoph Waltz's character is served the apple strudel

and there's a long lingering shot of the cream being put on the side of the apple strudel or whatever. Okay, I agree with you. But what if you saw that eight times? Because that's what this movie is. You see the same, like he comes out of DiCaprio's house and takes that same corner at the bottom of the hill

and then off they go. And I guess it's later to set up the, like the establishing shot of where the house is because of the Sharon Tate situation, which we'll get into in one of the spoilers. The old Sharon Tate sitch. You know what I'm talking about, yeah. I had a theory,

which I thought I really fleshed out very well in my last podcast. It's a shame we're never going to hear it though. I'm coming back to it. Oh, you I thought I really fleshed out very well in my last podcast oh that's a shame we'll never get to hear it though I'm coming back to it oh you're going to have to give us the dot points now okay so here we go

so I think Brad Pitt's character without spoiling like the origin of that character wait wait I have a theory okay Brad Pitt's character

is a sociopath god damn it yes I've got so many notes on this here we go let me think of one no you go ahead this is your theory

yeah so basically he's a sociopath maybe even a psychopath because he has the traits of somebody like that in terms of he's a lot of these people who um it's more psychopaths they can't hold down proper jobs they kind of they do all jobs here to there they can't kind of they present very well initially they over train their dogs over train their dogs yeah that's right like they'll present well initially they're kind of they can have bursts of charisma and seemingly fine, but they can't, like long term, can't really hold down a job, kind of go from this to that. I guess it's the lack of interest, lack of empathy,

whatever you want to call it. And his character has traits of that. And the other thing is his dog, he trains to, like it reflects him in so many ways because it's like this muscular. It's a coil spring ready to go. The coil spring ready to go. And's a coil spring ready to go. And the same way that it seems like a nice and friendly dog up to a point where you let it loose and then it's insane,

which is exactly what his character is like. And I feel like he's almost like the pet of Leonardo DiCaprio in the same way that the dog is his pet. And that's kind of how I see that character in this movie, just this lunatic under the guise of a happy-go-lucky stuntman who's got good abs. Look, the last time you explained this theory, I'm like, that's hogwash, utter hogwash.

I still think it's hogwash. No, you know what? I think you're right and maybe he is a sociopath. I don't know if it's intentional, but that's just how I interpret it. I think maybe the idea that Leonardo DiCaprio is his master, I think that's a little weird. But I just think they're good friends. Yeah. Yeah.

I guess they are. It's good to have good friends. It is good to have good friends. It's interesting that a lot of the flashbacks of this to the other work that DiCaprio did, because he dreams that he could have been in The Great Escape and they put him into that movie. It's pretty seamless. You don't really see effects like that in Tarantino movies.

Fully, obviously CGI, Forrest Gump-esque. Insert yourself into history. Well, look, I think maybe this, and maybe we'll talk about it in spoilers, that this is a movie where he's gone, well, this is my ninth movie and I've said I'm only going to do ten. So maybe I'll teach an old dog myself some new tricks

and maybe subvert people's expectations of what you get from a Tarantino movie. Yeah. I mean, it does feel pretty Tarantino-y. Yeah, absolutely. But I think there's some, you know. I just look down and I feel like I broke your concentration because I looked down at the recorder and then you looked down at the recorder. Like, what's happening on the recorder?

It seems fine. Yeah. So they insert DiCaprio into FBI and some other old westerns. Some spaghetti westerns, some crap spaghetti westerns from that era, which he didn't really want to make. But yet with the Sharon Tate stuff, it's Margot Robbie going to the theatre to watch herself in a movie, but it's the real Sharon Tate. They don't put her into that.

And it's a homage, I assume, more than anything. I would imagine so, yeah. Exactly, yeah. And also it. They don't put her into that. And it's a homage, I assume. I would imagine so, yeah. More than anything. Exactly, yeah. And also, it'd be expensive to put her in everything. Like, you know, all those shots that they show in that movie. Also, they're mostly focused on her feet, aren't they? Exactly true.

There's so many feet shots in this movie. Less than I thought, because I heard there were many. Right. But I feel like more than one is many. I was expecting feet-a-palooza, mate. Sure, right. Or was it foot-a-palooza? Yes, it's either one of those.

Okay, great. It's too cool. Great. Yeah, the Sharon Tate stuff is, we'll have to talk about more in spoilers, but it doesn't seem to mesh with, I'm not sure what, what are we doing in all of this whole thing? And I, look, I do recall that there's a comic we write called Garth Ennis who has written

many things he wrote uh preacher and and the boys which i talked about a couple weeks ago and when he started writing comic books he just started writing like relationship dramas people in ireland or whatever yeah and then he got into dc stuff like dc comics superhero comics and it's just him talking about how much he hates superheroes and then then the boys is that ultimate like, oh my god, so rude, rude, rude stuff. So many rude boys. So many rude boys and all these superheroes and everybody's getting murdered and horrible things happening to you. And I always wonder if like, regardless of how shocking or whatever any of that stuff is, I think his dialogue is always great and his relationships between characters are always great.

is i think his dialogue is always great his relationships between characters are always great and i wonder if it's just like he he always just wanted to write write relationships and he had to do it through the vehicle of superhero comics and he should just go and do because otherwise he'd be making small independent comics well exactly yeah for nothing but and i feel like maybe it's the same with tarantino like maybe he just wants to write relationship stuff and he needs to build a bizarre world around it to get people's attention or something like that i think he also enjoyed like he enjoys the i think the craft and the explosions of violence and the yeah and the unconventional kind of structure and and things like that yeah and i also feel like and apparently the script for this originally was going to be quite different like the sharon tate murders were going to be front and center and i think maybe

brad pitt was on board as a detective investigating this this murder yeah and then maybe it just evolved yeah to the point where he's like well i'm not that interested in the sharon tate stuff really yeah i guess that's yeah you may very well be right uh we'll talk about bruce lee more in spoilers okay i guess okay bruce lee is in. And I just want to quickly say that... I mean, he's not in this. No. A man dressed as Bruce Lee is in this. A man with a wig doing some Bruce Lee stuff.

That's correct, yes. He's good, though. He's bad with a voice in particular. But I thought the Playboy Mansion was pretty... It's very tame. Again, you'd expect, again, this is the summer of love. It's Manson murders, all that sort of stuff. I was expecting this to be a lot more lurid

and kind of shocking than it really was. Yeah. For the most part, this movie is very... Is mundane the right word? Yes. And I don't also think to its detriment either. And again, you're either... I think you're either going to enjoy this or you're not.

Well, I thought it was fine. Okay, good. Or be in the middle and think it was fine like James did. But, you know, I think it's one of those things I will come back to in a couple of years. And, again, I just need to stop saying this because I already said this, but nobody else has heard this except for you.

I enjoyed, there's a movie, Hail Caesar from a few years back from the Coen brothers, which focuses on this era of filmmaking and this whole Hollywood system. And I enjoyed that, I think, more than I enjoyed this. Probably because of the tap dancing. And the presence of Channing Tatum. Of course, Mason.

Has Channing Tatum done any Tarantino anything? Yes. What did he do? It was in Hateful Eight. There we go. It's a bit of a spoiler, but it's been out for 15 years. It's been out for 15 years. It seems like 15 years.

You're not wrong, Mason. 15 bloody years in the cinema watching that bloody long-ass film. They're making it into a Netflix series, though, with extra footage. Yeah, okay, right. Spoiler alert. When you say that, do you mean they got the existing movie? Yes. Okay, so they're not making a new Hateful Eight series.

They're getting the existing movie, Hateful Eight. Apparently it changes the whole kind of narrative. How much footage did he film? Like maybe six hours or something like that oh okay yeah so we saw five and a half of those in the cinema we should have got him got him got him he's a good filmmaker but got him the rest of it's just foot shots yeah it's a real soul-a-palooza oh very good ball-a-palooza toe-a-palooza ball-a-palooza. Oh, very good. Ball-a-palooza? Toa-palooza. Ball-a-palooza-toe? That's it. That's it, yeah. Spoilers.

So this movie plays like Inglourious Bastards in the sense that it's a revisionist history. Oh, best movie ever, I agree. Okay, there we go. What about you? I said that, Mason. Did you? Okay, all right. I said fine and best movie ever. Okay, all right.

But maybe I said it earlier. I think you said it last time. Right. Yeah, so it's a revisionist history of the Sharon Tate murders where we follow Sharon Tate through this entire film and there's this ominous sense of like, she's going to get murdered, she's about to get murdered, and then it's Brad Pitt kills all the hippies

with Leonardo DiCaprio's assistance. Maybe they should have called it that. Once upon a time in Hollywood brackets. Maybe that's on the DVD cover. Once upon a time, dot, dot, dot, in Hollywood brackets, Brad Pitt kills all the hippies with help from Leonardo DiCaprio. Who has a flamethrower. I mean, the flamethrower gag's incredible.

Obviously, I feel like this whole movie is just a set up for that one, that reveal that he's still got the flamethrower that he had in his old movie. Is it meant to be like... I find it hard to believe it would still work, Mason. Me too. I would have thought something, something fuel lines blocked up. I don't know. Is it meant to be like catharsis for like...

Because I feel like that's what Inglourious Basterds was. I felt that, definitely, yeah. Like, oh my God, doesn't it feel good to have Hitler machine gunned in a theatre? Yeah. But I didn't feel catharsis during this. I felt sad that at the end, after they've killed the hippies, and we'll come back to that,

DiCaprio gets to walk up to Sharon Tate's house and he's back in the big leagues of Hollywood. But all I'm thinking is she was really murdered. She was like nine months pregnant. She was stabbed to death. The baby died. They killed other people in that house. Yeah.

It was a horrible event. Yeah. I initially thought, well, what's going to happen here is either Pitt and DiCaprio are going to scare these people off and then they're going to go to Sharon Tate's house or they're going to kill Brad Pitt and Leonardo DiCaprio's characters and then move on to the Sharon Tate's house. But then obviously that didn't happen. I felt shades of when Mark Wahlberg said

he could stop 9-11 if he was there. Imagine if he was there. Oh, my God. But I feel like it's this, like, what we need is a couple of big burly American heroes to go and kill those hippies and then this tragedy would not have occurred. I guess the difference also between this and Inglourious Bastards in terms of revenge fantasy is Hitler really did die

and the Germans did lose World War II. That's what they want you to think. That's what they want us to think. But in this, so it was at the tail end of World War II regardless. Oh, I see what you're saying. The result is the same. The result is effectively the same. Big win for the Allies.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But in this, the result is hugely different. Apparently after the Tate murders and because of Vietnam and such, this golden era of Hollywood disappeared And I do wonder if it was the idea that this golden era would have continued on Just that little bit longer if Sharon Tate hadn't have been murdered What if Tarantino's 10th movie is that? What's that?

It's a sequel to this I think it's going to be something different again It could even be Star Trek for some reason Yeah, that's true. You remember. But what if the next movie he does is imagine Hollywood if the golden age of Hollywood had never ended kind of thing. But the other thing is this is probably set in the Pulp Fiction universe

and things must get bad eventually at some point. You know what I mean? Yeah, right, I see. This is all one loose cinematic universe. We've talked about it in prior episodes. But, yeah, I don't know about that. I don't know, Mason. We just don't know.

Yeah. And also I think, so the violence against the hippies, they were terrible, terrible people. Yes. Some of them are still alive. They may even all still be alive. Oh, the Manson family is still alive. Yeah, maybe.

Okay. Charles Manson died a couple of years ago. That's what they want you to think. He did. He's dead for real, which is good because he's a son of a, he's a big prick. I was watching Mindhunter this week. He shows up in that and I was watching some Manson interviews and he's just intolerable, like pseudo intellectual.

Was that YouTube algorithm that did that? You're watching stuff with your kid and then it was like up next. Charles Manson. Charles Manson. But it's just all like, who's really in the prison? Me or you? It's you, Charles Manson. Yeah, the guy who's carved the Nazi symbol into his head.

It's the guy who can't go out for lunch. Because I can go out for lunch if I want to. Yeah, but who's really in the prison? Oh, that's a really good point. I mean him, still. But I only have a limited number of lunch choices near where I live, so. That's a good point. Who's really in the prison when you think about it?

Who's really in the prison? So the idea of Brad Pitt's character in this is that he probably murdered his wife. Yeah. He doesn't seem to deny it right but maybe he doesn't feel the need to explain himself to people i guess tarantino doesn't need to explain like again not every movie has oh no i'm not saying i need an answer no i know but also like i feel also we're programmed to demand an answer now from everything like everything needs to be wrapped up in a neat little bow yeah and there needs to be a series of clues dotted about in the movie and series of easter eggs where we can determine for sure and i'm sure tarantino will be asked in future in every subsequent interview did did booth kill his wife and yes yes do you think he did from the flashback

i mean where is she now yeah bottom of bottom of the ocean. I was going to say heaven, but all right. With those beautiful ladies at the silver screen. And Jerry Lewis. Yeah, exactly. No, I don't know. But also, I felt like at the end, and not every movie needs a lesson. But also, side note, it's also the era where, like nowadays, if you're like, is that person divorced?

Did he kill his wife? You can just look the wife up on Facebook. You can't do that now. Do you think somebody who probably killed their wife now or was heavily suspected would still be working in Hollywood? Like at this point in time? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, less so now.

Are you talking about somebody specifically? No, no. I mean, it's probably happened. But, you know, it's after the Weinstein stuff and all of that. I think there's less likely that Brad Pitt would be, people would just let him wander around sets. The actor Brad Pitt. No, not him.

Having murdered his wife, Jennifer Aniston. That's right, yes. Wow. So, yeah, I know not all movies kind of need a point and a lesson, but I guess from the end of this, from the conclusion that I got, Brad Pitt, a man who probably murdered his wife, gets redemption by murdering some other people. The only reason that we kind of feel cathartic that he would murder them

is because we know that they were going to murder more people. In our universe, yes. The people in this movie don't necessarily know that. DiCaprio tortures one with a flamethrower who just happens to fall into his pool with a gun. Yes. And he hits her with a flamethrower. I mean, they were going to murder him.

Yeah, I know, but he didn't know that necessarily. But Brad Pitt knew that. Brad Pitt knew that, yes. But he didn't see Brad Pitt fighting them in there. He didn't see Brad Pitt smashing one of their heads into a glass table or whatever. That's true. But I also feel like Rick Dalton is the kind of guy who's like, if you come into my house for any reason,

even if you've come into my house by accident, now you're leaving my house, I'm going to kill you. With this flamethrower. Yeah, that is probably true. But I guess the point is pitt got to do some murders and leonardo cabrera gets to work with roman polanski who's a pedophile and a rapist and then fled the country and has been living comfortably in france for decades i feel like maybe this the more that i think about it the more i feel like that his 10th movie is going to be this weird continuation of the golden age of Hollywood. Maybe Rick Dalton's good.

Maybe Rick Dalton and Booth are going to team up and murder Roman Polanski. He doesn't generally seem to go back to characters. Like you'll recast. That's what I'm saying. But then again, he will do like two Westerns in a row. Yes. Crime.

That's what I'm talking about. Maybe, you know, I, and I feel at least some of this movie is like him subverting expectations. I mean like, okay, well you expect there to be a grizzly thing

happening every 10 minutes. Grizzly Adams did have a beard. Sorry, go on. Thank you. It's a joke from earlier. In an earlier movie. Oh, yeah. Okay, great.

Okay, terrific. And maybe he's just like, well, I'm not going to. I'm going to have a, you know, there's going to be some rationing of tension. Yeah. But it's just going to be some bros being bros B-B-B exactly

B-B-B yeah you might be right and then just a little burst of something a little something special for the fans at the end I just don't think we'd necessarily

I'm not I don't mind violence in movies it doesn't really bother me I love violence in movies this is fairly I mean this was some really gruesome horrendous stuff

oh yeah for sure but I just don't think that wasn't the most interesting part for me. The interesting part was this man DiCaprio struggling to kind of adjust to this new era of Hollywood

and just the new era of the world. It's a metaphor for... Not being able to get a boner. Is it? No. Okay. I was going to say it's a metaphor for Quentin Tarantino.

Maybe we're both right. But I think, well, he's never kind of gone out of favour, has he? Or gotten a boner. Is that true? I don't know. Maybe we're both right. But I think, well, he's never kind of gone out of favor, has he? Or gotten a boner. Is that true? I don't know. One that's not foot related, I assume.

Yeah, that's probably true. Got him. But good on him. You can like what you want. And he's not hurting anyone with that, is he? That's true. His boner doesn't work. No, I get it.

Let's talk about Bruce Lee then. Okay. So there's some controversy surrounding that because Bruce Lee's daughter's come out and said it wasn't a very respectful interpretation of her father. I see. He would never have said that he could have beat up Muhammad Ali or whatever. Other people are saying, well, he actually, you know, he was a nice guy, but there was an arrogance to him. And he maybe did say that in passing at some point or another.

Could he actually beat up Muhammad Ali? I have no idea. But Quentin Tarantino, the way he addresses it is that because cliff booth is a fictional character yes that's like saying well could batman beat up bruce lee yeah right now could batman beat up the hulk or whatever it doesn't it's not real so it doesn't it doesn't it's not a real scenario sure right uh-huh so good cliff booth beat up bruce lee he's a hollywood yes it's fictional in this universe yes yeah right but i can also see how if that was, say, someone I was close to or my dad and then somebody made a fictionalised goofball version of him.

Wait, Bruce Lee's your dad in this scenario? Bruce Lee's my dad in this scenario. Okay, right. And someone made a fictional kind of goofball representation of him and then he got beat up on screen. That would be kind of like... So it's a fictional goofball representation of a man beating up your real-life goofball dad.

Yes, that's right yeah that's what i'm saying yeah you see what i'm saying no i see exactly yeah no i see i see i see both sides of the coin i'm a very i'm a very measured man that's good to hear um yeah and i also get the sense that initially i thought we were talking about this earlier i initially got the sense that that was a dream sequence but i think you might be right it might also be a flashback that that's what his interpretation yeah and i think it might be it came to that conclusion exactly it's his recollection of what happened and maybe in that in that recollection yes lee's way more arrogant than yes yeah also stunt coordinator shout out what was her name again

zoe bell yeah stunt woman for uma thurman and kill bill and uh she's on that car and she's on the car in death proof yes exactly yeah that's true it's interesting she didn't get any stunts in this unless she didn't you say she was stunt coordinator she's a stunt coordinator she's a stunt coordinator and she is she plays the stunt coordinator in the movie yes oh my god it's a meta but maybe she's also i didn't even realize babies rattle. Okay. No, that was Salt Shaker, but he's been shrunk to a tiny size,

so it seems enormous to him. Oh, no, it's the Salt Shaker. Rat-a-da-da. Look, we've lost the Seinfeld impression, but I think we've gained a very good Pacino impression, so I think it's okay. But sorry, yeah, so she's... Interesting that she's a stunt coordinator. But she does no stunts

in this I assume I don't know I like their acting I imagine you only have a limited amount of time to be a stunt performer in Hollywood before you're like

oh my bones and organs I can't do this anymore a lot of these guys do it for a while yeah like there's some older guys like 60 plus or whatever

yeah because you know you want if you're getting like an Arnold type you want someone who kind of matches him not completely age wise but, but, you know,

they have this stunt guys for decades. I guess that's true, yeah. That's the world we live in, of Hollywood. More like Hollyweird. Oh, my God, on the way over here. Nice. You didn't hear it, Mason, but I... You put in some laugh track, I know.

Yeah. No, that was real laughter. Oh, from the studio audience. That's right. Finally, we got a reaction out of our studio audience. They've been here 298 episodes. 99. Oh, from the studio audience. That's right. Finally, we got a reaction out of our studio audience. They've been here 298 episodes. 99. Oh, yeah.

It's amazing they still have the power to laugh. I know. After, you know, just hearing all our jokes again. Again and again. Oh, there's one more thing. I'm sure I've missed stuff that I've said last time that I feel like I wish I'd have said this time. But I feel like the revenge that Brad Pitt got on these hippies

was less impactful from the fact that there weren't the ones that he strictly interacted with. Like the Lena Dunham character, the one who hitchhiked. He met Tex. But like the Dakota Fanning character, like the one he had the confrontation with. I like that whole scene in the fake Western town. Yeah, because it felt like a spaghetti Western.

Yeah, it was very spaghetti western. So, yeah, this movie is not without things that I went, that's pretty good. Yeah. That's pretty good. Is that Al Pacino? It is. Sorry, everyone.

I just like to talk out loud. I mean, it's quite obvious in retrospect. It looks exactly like him, and he talks like him. He said that rat-a-tat thing that he does. Why am I still talking? Because I was trying to enjoy this movie. Hang I got I just need to make a phone call anyway it's it's pretty good for a lot of it a lot of people have said Tarantino rankings where would you put this in these movies in the Medell ah that's a good question I think towards the top

honestly yeah I think it's I think it's more towards top than bottom it's no pulp fiction certainly but it is way better than

for example The Hateful Eight and That Car One That Car One yeah I agree but it's probably more middle for me but I don't

I don't dislike any of these films really yeah I think yeah there's none of them that I'm like that is absolute dog shit like yeah yeah for sure probably more middle for me but i don't i don't dislike any of these films really yeah i think yeah there's not there's none of them that i'm like that is absolute dog shit like yeah yeah for sure do we know what his like is he did you watch some interviews with him yeah do you know what what was his impetus for making this even well he one of the things he said when he was a kid he grew up in hollywood and used to drive around cars with his stepdad and it was constantly used to drive around cars yeah drive another car

he'd pick a pick a victim on the street you know a little slow and he'd be like no i understand he drove around with a car in a car with his dad he was like we never changed the radio station he's like even when the ads came on we wouldn't even turn it down we just yell over the top of the ads or whatever that was was Hollywood. That was movie magic. Oh, my God. Was that just Pacino on the radio? I understand that. Yeah, and there's these... I kind of like those established... You know, there's that scene,

there's kind of a montage where it's late at night and all the famous Hollywood Boulevard landmarks light up and you're Musso and Frank Steiner and blah, blah, blah. And it's all very magical. It felt very Ocean's Eleven. It did. The good one, not the bad one. I was going to say, which one, Mason? I mean, the good one, but shades of the bad one. Well, blah, blah. And it's all very magical. It felt very Ocean's Eleven. It did. The good one, not the bad one. I was going to say, which one, Mason?

I mean, the good one, but shades of the bad one. Well, that is true. Yeah. Era-wise. That's right. What a movie Ocean's Eleven was. I agree. The original one.

In terms of being quite crap. We're going to do that. There's three of those weird Rat Pack movies we've done, two of them. We've got to do the third one. Yeah. We'll do it. Hopefully we lose that one in the recording. Oh, my God.

We can only hope. All right, Mason. Do you know what it's time for is it time for our famous segment what we read and what we're going to read do you want to pause and check the recording i do but first i'm going to put in the um the theme song because i can do it via my computer i understand that sure so just give me a sec all right i'm doing the thing. I can sing it as I hear it. I get it. I harmonize with myself. Maybe I could do layers of that every week. Oh, an additional layer every week.

I mean, you could do that, or we could not use this device ever again. Mason, knowing what you've read already, let's skip this because it's so boring you've got a boring one this week come on mate nah what are you going to do nah well listen

on the way over here I've been listening to it recently yes I'm going to start again no this is excellent okay then our friends over at Batch Bitch I've been listening to that

as part of the Planet Broadcasting Network this sounds like an ad but it's not an ad. I was like... It's an endorsement. It is an endorsement because... It's a lifestyle brand. Our friends Naomi Higgins and Danielle Walker host that. They're super, super funny. You might know

Naomi Higgins from the Gamey Gamey Game show on YouTube. I do know that. And you might know Danielle Walker from just being funny in general. That's true. Their podcast where they talk about all things The Bachelor and reality TV. It's not really about The Bachelor or reality TV. They're just being funny. Yeah, well, no podcast is really about the thing it's supposed to be about.

Thank God. In the tradition of great podcasts. Exactly. You have to sort of, if you really want a podcast about The Bachelor and reality TV, you have to sort of, you have to go around the block a little bit. You'll find it eventually. But no, because The Bachelor's not always on, but it is back.

It's back, and that reminded me. It's not a show that I watch. The Bachelor. It's not a show that I watch or care about, but that's not the point. I would absolutely recommend listening to this podcast even if you have zero interest in The Bachelor because they're bloody breaking down reality TV.

They're cancelling people left and right. It's so good. You were talking about the hilarious way that they break people down over a period of months in these shows well i was under the impression that and i only learned recently i thought the how like a show the bachelor worked was people just all the contestants and whatever just lived their normal lives and then they were like okay we're going to record an episode and then everybody went to the mansion or the house or whatever it is and then they just you know okay, we're going to record an episode and then everybody went to the mansion or the house or whatever it is and then the Bachelor picked somebody out and they went on a date

and everybody else went home. Osher Gunzberg. Osher Gunzberg, exactly. But whoever's on the American one, Carson Daly, that can't be right. Ryan Seacrest. Ryan Seacrest. It's probably Ryan Seacrest's brother. Brian Seacrest.

But what I didn't know is that that's not how it works but basically all the women in the case of The Bachelor have to go on leave from their job or quit their job or just not have a job and they all move them into the house for a period of months yes no social media nothing to read nothing to do no exercise no television I think they have a gym because they have to keep oh I'm apparently in some of these kinds of shows, they just have to run up and down stairs all day. Oh, that's insane. Because there's nothing there.

But yeah, and they just drink all day and form unhealthy social bonds. Because that's what you'd have to do. And some of them don't get dates for like two months. Exactly, and all they do is they just wait in this house for this golden man to show up and be like, I choose you. And put him in a helicopter.

Oh my God. And then, yeah, and exactly and it's just kind of like i love brett silverstein and it's such a it's i didn't know that it was such this such a i'm gonna google brett stillman in case he's like a murderer okay right okay and then you'll really love him but then it's like this cult's environment i had no idea like and i'm curious as to whether they're built from the ground up like a cult they're like okay brett silverstein right my professor is the second result jesus right i said right okay well that's okay yeah that's all right then but or like i wonder if it's like you know they they they build these shows based on a cult they're like well how do we get the everybody on those shows to go crazy? Yeah. We'll make them like cults. What if they just build this stuff up?

And then they went, oh, this is like a cult. Oh, okay. Did they create it independently? You know what I mean? Yeah, absolutely. Interesting. Anyway, Batch Bitch is a really good podcast. It's super funny.

I was just listening to it on the way here, and I'm bloody loving it. So get into that, I reckon. Okay, what I'm going to recommend this week is Brett Silverstein, a professor over at the psychology department of the City College of New York. How's he being rated over there? He's got a 4.3, which is not bad, but a lot of really positive reviews. Apparently the difficulty level of his class is around a 3, but the overall quality is verging on a 4.

There's a few kind of lower marks here, but people want to jump over to rate my professor. It sounds like to me that the difficulty is low and that's why the rating is high. You know what I mean? Yeah, I get what you're saying. Yeah, that's very possible. I mean, it's not all glowing reviews,

but I think considering the amount of people who would have taught, 4.3 is not actually bad at all. Hey, quick side note. What are you actually recommending this week, you son of a bitch? You don't like my second take at this brett silverstein game i like it it's so good this is not the this is the first time i've done this is it who knows what's real anymore uh you're like do you think this brett silverstein gag will play the second time i'm like absolutely it'll play uh so i'm reading star wars target

and then i'll say what then i'll say'll say, what are you really reading, you fine gentleman? And you're like, call me a bitch! That's what he said earlier. Star Wars Target Vader. Oh, that's right. It feels like an old school

Star Wars legend comic where, especially like character designs, because it's like, what if this man had half a robot face? Lots of series like Bounty Hunters

who are tasked with killing Darth Vader, but of course, being the Star Wars universe and knowing that Darth Vader dies a different way, they probably won't succeed. But it's kind of a fun, like,

get a team together, stop a Darth Vader comic. And there's a lot of get a team together, stop a Darth Vader comics. There really are. And this is one of them. When you said this, when you recommended this last time, I'm like, is he thinking about Vader down?

Oh, yeah, Vader down's good. But have you read the actual Darth Vader comic, the Charles Soule one? Oh, that's all just him just people trying to take him no no it's it's but like it focused exclusively on him like it's from his perspective you should read that one i know you hate star wars and me and brett silverstein because of his great teaching techniques i think he goes too easy on people they're not going to learn that way are they i would just think it was hilarious if brett silverstein got like a thousand ratings.

Don't do it. If you're going to rate him... For good. No, see, I feel like you shouldn't rate him because if you rate him high and he actually is a bad professor... Yeah, good point. But if he's good and you rate him negatively, it might affect his employment opportunities.

Okay, you know what you've got to do? Go in and give him a 4.3, which is what he's currently on, so it doesn't affect the ratings. Is that how it works? I don't know. I don't know. Okay, anyway, that's what you've got to do? Go in and give him a 4.3, which is what he's currently on, so it doesn't affect the ratings. Is that how it works? I don't know. I don't know. Okay.

Anyway, that's what I'm reading. All right. And are you ready? What's the art like? It's old school, kind of feels like Star Wars Legends. He's like wacky. Oh, yeah, yeah, right, right. You know, kind of like the 90s, kind of.

Your Shadows of the Empire. Your other comics are there in the 90s. Nice, very good. Next thing? Oh, yeah, Letters. The classic one was... Letters, oh, Letters. We love you.

Some letters, they're only a take away. I know they're here right now. We're going to do Letters. All right. This time around, I was ready because I have a new phone this week. You do? I was ready with the correct a new phone this week. You do? I was ready with the correct position of the speakers. Yes.

And the volume was way up. That was quite the ordeal first time around. Good thing we did this entire thing again. I just quickly, we got some reviews for Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. Kendra says, just saw Once Upon a Time in Hollywood and I give it best movie ever. Great cast and I love the 60s Hollywood aesthetic. Brad and Leo still got it. And Alex says, I just got out of Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. I give it best movie ever great cast and I love the 60s Hollywood aesthetic Brad and Leo still got it and Alex says

I just got out of one spot of time in Hollywood I did not enjoy it pretty much every woman was giving me nothing to do but dance or hitchhike

and look pretty the plot followed out this happened and then this happened with no consequences worst Tarantino movie ever so there you go two different opinions

from two different people presumably and both completely valid yes Mason yes we are in the letters segment of the show absolutely which means several things from two different people, presumably. And both completely valid. Yes. Mason. Yes. We are in the letter segment of the show.

Absolutely. Which means several things, mostly letters related. Oh, should I read a letter? Did I say how to get letters? Did I? Weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com. Hashtag weeklyplanetpod on Twitter. Very, very nice. What have you got, Mason?

What have you got? First, I've got one from Tom Hartwell. He says, hi, James and Nick. That's us. Yeah, that's me. I'm a long-time fan of the show. Thank you. And just checked out Ben's play. Thanks to your recommendation in the new West End Theatre segment of and Nick. That's us. Yeah, that's me. I'm a long-time fan of the show. Thank you. And just checked out Ben's play.

Thanks to your recommendation in the new West End Theatre segment of your podcast. Oh, yes. Pretty good. Pretty good. Excellent reviews, even above that of Brett Silverstein. My goodness, 4.4? Five stars all round. Wow.

I think I might have seen one for four, but that might have been out of like 20. But I mean, when you round down, that's 4.4. That's a good point, actually. Yeah. I've been running my own podcast for the past two years called the london theater podcast we chat with actors directors playwrights etc including earlier this year kit harrington of the great gamma thrones kitberg harrington anyway so i got to chat with ben about his career so far both on stage and as a youtube video editor and thought your listeners might be interested in getting a brief behind the scenes peek as to how Ben works. Absolutely. I think people should definitely check that out.

So that's called the? It's called the London Theatre Podcast. Get a bit of insight. Do you like insight, Mason? Yes. That's the perfect opportunity for you then. For insight? To get some of that, yeah. Getting of the insight. You know it is. As from Robert Farley says, with the upcoming

Zombieland 2, who if anyone would you like to appear in a a la Bill Murray cameo? I personally would like to see Dan Aykroyd, and he's killed by someone hitting him on the head with a crystal skull or a copy of the DVD, Indiana Jones 4, or kill Shia LaBeouf dead. Hashtag weekly planet pod. Well, I said last time, in the spirit of Ghostbusters alumni, Rick Moranis.

Sure. Also of Honey, I Shrunk the Kid's Fame. But now that I think about it, maybe Al Pacino's Shrunk Ridley Tiny. Ah, I'm so small. Rat-a-tat-a-tat. That's a big jar of rocks. Exactly.

He's running out of things to do rat-a-tat-a-tat. I see, right. He's just trying to justify the catchphrase at this point. I get it. All right. I understand. Well, we were thinking 80s. I mentioned Kurt Russell because he did a lot of horror stuff in the 80s.

You could get a Jim Belushi if you want to do a Blues Brothers 2000 situation. Actually, he's not in that, is he? He was supposed to be, but then they put him in. They replaced him. Okay, right. You know his name. A copy of According to Jim on DVD. They just put it on a chair.

No, John Goodman. Okay, right. What about... Is Robert Englund still alive? Freddy Krueger? I believe he is, yeah. Okay, right. But do you think he's famous enough

where people would go, Robert Englund? Oh, yeah, right. Maybe not. Maybe put Zack Snyder in there. Dawn of the Dead guy. But again, is he acting like... No, I don't know.

I don't know what he does. I know he's got no sugar on his sets. What does that mean in terms of... Also, did the zombie apocalypse happen before... No, it did happen before Dawn of the Dead guy. But again, is he acting like he's doing something? No, I don't know. I don't know what he does. I know he's got no sugar on his sets. What does that mean in terms of... Also, did the zombie apocalypse happen before... No, it did happen before Dawn of the Dead, right? 2009, so no, after. I actually just watched it today, funnily enough, yeah. And we've maybe got an episode coming up for Caravan of Garbage, don't we?

Yeah, we do. It's true. So, okay, so maybe not Zack Snyder. Who's an 80s kind of big star horror... What about an Eddie Murphy? Sure, I'd say that, yeah. He's coming back. Who's an 80s kind of big star horror? What about an Eddie Murphy? Sure, I'd say that. Yeah. He's coming back.

He's coming back. There's a trailer for Dolomite. Which is the story of the man who invented the Dolomite character, the Blaxploitation character. Never seen a single second of those movies. I don't know if that movie's going to be any good, but I might watch five minutes of it. Yeah, I'll check out Eddie Murphy doing a thing.

Because Marlon Wayans is doing the Eddie Murphy thing now. He's got that show on Netflix where he's like, I'm playing six people. Two of them are fat. What are the other four? Women or something. I don't know. These hilarious gags.

So two fat people, two ladies of the silver screen. I get it. Do you know what I'm talking about? Not really, no. Yeah, anyway. Is it Marlon Wayans or Damon Wayans? It doesn't matter. I think it's Marlon.

Anyway, so Marlon Wayans would be perfect perfect is what we're saying, isn't it? Absolutely, yes. We arrived at the same conclusion at the same time. What about Judge Reinhold? Is he popular enough? I don't know. What about Jason Bateman? That's not bad.

That's not bad. He's like a young Bill Murray. Yeah. He's a teen wolf situation, you know? It's called Sex Tuplets. Oh, okay. I'm just going to check the reviews. They're all Murray. Yeah. It's a Teen Wolf situation, you know. It's called Sex Tuplets. Oh, okay. I'm just going to check the reviews. They're all bad.

Bad. Great. Incredible. Though 84% of people like this film, but it's got 20% on Rotten Tomatoes. Roger Ebert gave it 1.5. I do. One out of four. I don't know why I said 1.5.

That was not even close to what I looked at. In fairness, it's very late at night right now. It's incredibly late. One more tweet here from Kat who says, Out of all the Fox movies that Disney have killed off, which of them, if any, do you think have real potential to be actually good? LXG, League of Stormy Gentlemen. Flash Gorbin.

Chronicle 2. Did you say Flash Gorbin? Yep. Chronicle 2. You're thinking of Flash Groban, the singer. I mean, his name's Joshosh groban but i call him flash yeah because he's so showing his penis to everybody all the time exactly yeah uh or mclean you have no idea how accurate that is is that really no i don't think it's true or maybe it is

i don't know i'll tell you later it's an off-air conversation really yep so mclean is a die-hard prequel yeah could any of these be good thank you for joining gentlemen potentially yeah look i know i don't know if they could give us a relaunch of that they'd have to scrap and start again I think yeah definitely

100% and I also feel like maybe Penny Dreadful did it better than League of Extraordinary Gentlemen I don't think I think it got two seasons or three

something like that yeah what are other ones Flash Groban Flash Groban Chronicle 2 is like six years too late. And Max Landis.

I feel like all the avenues that Chronicle could have explored if it got a sequel immediately have kind of been done by so many other things. Brightburn and just superhero movies in general. Yeah. They've really kind of... The seven that we've got every year. Yeah, exactly. I think it's been thoroughly covered, yeah.

That's true. Yeah. Okay. Flash Gordon was going to be taika watiti um let's talk about animated maybe so that could have been something because you know the 80s sure right i mean you know animated voltron worked out really well it did it's great i mean it was animated before but you know but now it's more animated yeah and of course there's mclean which is um die hard pretty cool which I'm kind of... Yeah, you were mentioning how that... What adventures had Bruce Willis been on before he...

Jason Die Hard. And you think nothing. I think just like Traffic Cop. Sure, right. Or maybe just a man like combing over his hair in the mirror. Yeah, Bruce Lice alive. Bruce Lice alive, you know. Okay, cool. Yeah, but I don't think Bruce Lice alive, you know? Okay, cool.

Yeah, but I don't think, like, you wouldn't de-age Bruce Willis because he doesn't care about anything anymore. And so you'd have to recast and would people even be into that? I wonder if there is anything that can get Bruce Willis back into caring about movies. I reckon no. Okay, then definitive. And I know you're a yes and guy

so that that's pretty definitive if you're like no absolutely not okay well I guess the last thing he sort of cared about was the Splitterverse

no he did not in the last he did more in the last one than he did in all those no but that's old footage no no the last movie

that he made though because he's in the last one the Splitterverse yeah what but that's old footage. No, no. The last movie that he made, though? Because he's in the last one. The last? Yeah. What do you mean old footage? But all the... It's from The Sixth Sense. What?

And you mean Unbreakable? I mean Unbreakable. It's very late. But they filmed new things with him. They did, yeah. But none of the... All the flashback stuff is like... It's just old footage.

Yeah, I know that, but I'm saying he cared about that project to some extent. I don't think he did. No no no i not in the same way that he used to like especially after watch like pop fiction it's like this is not even the same man yeah yeah so anyway what do you do what do you do exactly nothing anyway do you want to wrap us up home no because i got one more letter well then i don't want to okay this is from jordan bull jordan uh hi james and mason that's us. My name is Jordan. And fun fact, I was listening to old episodes of your podcast

while scrubbing toilets at McDonald's the other night. I assume he works at McDonald's. I bet he doesn't. Sneaking in at night. Just a good Samaritan. Yeah. What a good guy. And I think listening to you guys talk about what's up and coming

way back then is the most I'll ever get to feel like a time traveller. Anyway, wanted to say a huge thank you for your podcast. I actually overheard a co-worker making Weekly Planet references at work two years ago and asked him if he too watched Mr. Sunday movies and it sparked some great conversations. Now to this day, we are best friends and watching both good and bad movies together is our favourite thing to do. It's also his birthday coming up, so happy birthday, Jacob. Happy birthday, Jacob. Anyway, that's from Jordan, official photographer of the podcast, maybe.

I've already got one. Who is it? It goes to the live shows. Clickety-clack. That is true. All right, so send us your portfolio. Yes. Your best photos of freshly scrubbed McDonald's toilets.

Yep. And maybe you're into the shot. We will reverse Google image search this. Exactly. Don't just Google fresh scrubbed McDonald's toilets. Also, you can tell. I worked at McDonald's. Yeah, that's right.

I'd be scrubbing those toilets. I'd still check up on them and go, yep, pretty good. You can tell the difference between... A Photoshop. Exactly, that's right. A Photoshopped scrubbed clean toilet. Exactly, and I soiled many one of your McDonald's toilets. Boy, did you.

Yeah, so we're both pretty profound experts there, let me tell you. I meant to say this up top in the last episode and I didn't and then I put it about here in the previous recording, but I also ran into some people at the pub who listened to the show and watched the YouTube channel. So toilet talkers remind you about the people you met at the pub? Again, yes, because I remember we said that exact same thing before segueing into this as we were ending the show.

But so I just want to say thank you for coming up and saying hi and being good, nice dudes and being supportive. That's great. You're very welcome. That was not directed at you in any way. I don't know how you could have interpreted it that way. It's very late and also you're welcome. Okay, well, bring us home.

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Oh, mate, it is rife with it. This is diabolical. It's true. We should come up with some sort of The Boys team that kills other podcasts. I could name some names. Oh, could you? Tell me off air. That's terrific.

Wait, would I know any of them, though? A hundred percent. What? podcasts i could name some names oh could you tell me off air that's terrific yeah wait would i know any of them though a hundred percent and if i told you you'd be like of course oh i get a sense now all right we'll talk about it off air that sounds really good yeah okay uh it's nobody that's not we personally know no no yeah exactly i'm not like over at sands pants they're funny all right right those guys are great yeah but is it them it's definitely them that's what i was talking about yeah all right uh uh uh let's. Yeah. But is it them? It's definitely them. That's what I was talking about. All right. Let's see. What else?

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I don't know why I said that. It's because it's very late. I've never seen anyone at the movies when I've seen them. Oh, mate. It's not important. Let's end the show, yeah? Let's end the show? Everybody?

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