The Weekly Planet - 30 Best & Worst Spider-man Films

Episode Date: April 21, 2014

This week we discuss Harrison's Ford hatred for Star Wars, Batman VS Superman, the future of Spider-man, X-Men and more!Also, we journey through the highs, the lows and the bizarre dancing sequences of the Sam Raimi Spider-man films. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome everybody, welcome back to another episode of the Weekly Planet, official podcast of ComicBookMovie.com. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday. Sun- Sunday? It's a hard word to say, isn't it? No. It's one of the easiest. You learn it in elementary school.

That's true. Welcome back as always. My co-host, Nick Mason. Hey, friend. Hey, listeners. What's happening? Nothing. You've got a haircut. I had to get a haircut, yes. What do you mean you had to? Well, legally required for the podcast. Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. It's like being in the army.

That's right. Yeah. What has been happening with me? Yeah, what's news? Well, Comedy Festival's over. I've been doing that for a month, so I'll finally be being in the army. That's right. Yeah. What has been happening with me? Yeah, what's news? Well, Comedy Festival's over. I've been doing that for a month, so I'll finally be able to get some decent night's sleep, and I'll be able to stop half-assing this podcast. I'll be able to two-thirds-ass it like I normally do.

A return to form. Absolutely. What about you? What's new with you? Well, as you know, I've been away for the weekend, for the Easter weekend. Some people spend it with their families. Some people are forced to go to the Gold Coast, which is like ourgas i guess yeah really the worst vegas the worst vegas and there was if there was a movie about it would be called worst vegas

and drink solidly though on the friday night because it was good friday everything was closed so everything was dead you'd go out you couldn't get a drink to save yourself right so we went bowling and played video games so it was basically just bowling and video games in incredible humidity. It was a 14 year old's birthday. Great. Fantastic. Had a pizza party. Yeah.

Yeah. But then I also had a lot of Chinese food and went on a giant slingshot. What does that entail? Well, it's like a reverse... Cowgirl? Yes. It's like a reverse cowgirl. No, it's like a reverse bungee jump where you sit in a capsule, an open-air capsule,

and then they shoot you slingshot style 28 stories in the air, and then you spin down towards the earth, and it's terrifying. Yeah. Especially when you've eaten a lot of Chinese food. Yeah, do they... Is there a guy on the side with a hose? And when you leave, he just hoses out the capsule? Pretty much, yeah, yeah.

So, yeah, that was my weekend. And Easter, I guess, happened, but, you know. Exactly. was my weekend. And Easter, I guess, happened. But, you know. Exactly. Did you have fun with Easter with the fam? No. Enough of this sentimental bullshit, Mason. Thank you.

Let's get into the podcast. All right. I want to quickly talk about... People have been asking about my YouTube channel, Mason. As you're aware, nothing has happened as of yet. But in a way, that's a good thing. But in another way, it's not. It's the worst. It's probably mostly the worst. I mean, people have been away for the... Yeah, well, that's a good thing but in another way it's not it's the worst it's probably mostly the worst

I mean people have been away for the yeah well that's it for the weekend so maybe YouTube everybody's on YouTube yeah yeah well I've contacted them

through Facebook Twitter I've found some emails to reach them on I've heard absolutely nothing in return a lot of times when people's channels

get blocked like this they just stay down forever so there's a good chance that this will never come back but if people do want to people have been helping out. They've been at YouTubing on Twitter, on at YT Creators, and at YouTube Dev, which is YouTube Developers.

So if you want to ask them what's going on in that. Or YouTube Devastated. Yes. Because he's devastated because YouTube Dev has taken down. So if people want to keep doing that, I guess if you're polite and whatever, it can't hurt. So, you know, go for your life on that I really appreciate those who have helped

but as I was saying to you before I started I'm thinking about maybe just starting a website like an independent ish website and kind of steering

away from YouTube you know what I mean see how that goes I mean I'm devastated at the moment Mason in my heart so this might be a few months away

but we'll see how that goes so yeah great I'm on board alright straight into the news what if I wasn't though what if I was like yeah you know what you've had a little fun haven't you with this Yeah, yeah, yeah. But we'll see how that goes. Okay. So, yeah. Great. I'm on board. All right. Straight into the news. What if I wasn't, though? What if I was like, yeah, you know what?

You've had a little fun, haven't you, with your videos and things, but maybe it's time to get a real job. Exactly. Get a sensible haircut. Even more sensible than the one you've currently got. You know, that one's pretty sensible. Thank you. So you're halfway there, but get it more sensible.

I love my haircut guy, because there's no bullshit. I go in and I'm like, what's happening? He doesn't know my name. I don't know his name. It's over really quickly. He's from Iraq. He's great. Iran.

I don't know. But he's great. I love him. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. You have a nice haircut too. Thank you.

Yeah. My barber's also from Iraq. Really? It's Saddam Hussein. Back from the dead. It's zombie Saddam Hussein. You trust him? Yeah, I guess.

I mean, he's a zombie and he's really close to my head, but probably should be fine. Yeah, it'll be fine. What's the worst that could happen, yeah. All right, Mason. Earlier this week, Harrison Ford was interviewed. I'm just going to have some water. Our favourite grumpy grandpa.

You better believe it. I've got here grumpy old Gramps Harrison Ford. Fantastic. Now, he was asked in an interview about all sorts of stuff about his career. They said to him, Harrison Ford, who shot first, Han or Greedo? Did he say, I don't care? He said, I don't know and I don't care. Yay!

Who interviewed him? Was it some sort of... It was probably like Crave Online or something like that. I don't know exactly who. You know, somebody, some great website. Comicbookmovie.com. Yeah. And obviously, you know who shot first.

It was Greedo or Han, depending on which version. Which version you love. Obviously, that's a dumb question to ask. Because obviously it was Han first in the originals, and then later it was Greedo, because they tweaked it. And then they made it at the same time. So it's those three answers. Because it's not a real thing that really happened.

It's a fake thing that did not happen. And it's weird, because Lucas was like, I don't think Han shouldn't have shot first, because there's no time to redeem this guy. This isn't a movie about redeeming a character. The whole thing's about redeeming a character. Darth Vader. The whole trilogy's about that. There's room to redeem another guy. You're absolutely right.

He's mostly a pretty good guy, but occasionally he shoots first. A guy who's trying to kill him. Exactly. I don't see the problem with it. If someone's going to shoot you, you can shoot them. That's cool, right? Yeah, absolutely. It's super cool.

But you know what? Somebody pointed out that that is a classic Han response. Isn't it, though? That's very true. Did he elaborate at right? Yeah, absolutely. It's super cool. But you know what? Somebody pointed out that that is a classic Han response. Isn't it, though? That's very true. Did he elaborate at all, or is it just like... No, that was it. Yeah, yeah. And then he stormed out. Great. Really slowly. Probably shuffled out. Yeah, he did. Alright, Mason. Now, there's a lot of X-Men news this

week. It's been a rollercoaster week for X-Men news, I'll bloody tell you what. There was a new X-Men trailer. Did you catch that one? No. It was really good. Second up. You should have warned me beforehand. I could have looked it up. No, that's X-Men trailer. Did you catch that one? No. It was really good. Second up. You should have warned me beforehand. I could have looked it up. No, that's fine.

It's just regular stuff. It's basically Wolverine explaining what happens. He's like, so basically I've got back in time, but maybe this will be a better scenario for us or whatever. I've been working out, you know. Yeah, fantastic. All that kind of stuff. It's great. Check it out or don't.

Do though. Also, Channing Tatum mentioned that he's had conversations with Fox about taking on the Gambit role because he loves the character of Gambit. What do you think about Channing Tatum in that weird kind of mask sock that he wears with the face cut out? Yeah, absolutely. The most 90s of superhero cowl masks. Fingalus gloves.

Fingalus gloves. The weird face thing That just It's like a combination Sweatband and mask Chin strap Weird No yeah Okay

Yeah I guess Is Channing Tatum New Orleans based? Well this is what he said though That's funny you should say that He said He's been working on the accent So he's not from there

No And he says So no and he says so far which he says he's terrible I respect his honesty though yeah you are actually I like Channing Tatum

I know he's not like he's no Matthew Mahoney Mahoney yeah Mahoney Matthew Mahoney that's the one

you know what I mean but he's good enough and he's charismatic I like him give him the role I don't care is he too bulky for Gambit

I picture Gambit as kind of thin. Like a Taylor Kitsch from Wolverine Origins X-Men stars? Yes. Yeah? I feel like there was a point, right? In the, like, round... There was no point to that film.

No. You're right. You mean a point in time. No, I was going to make that, but now I'm going to make a different point. Okay, sure. Around 2009, 2010, there was a race between Taylor Kitsch and Channing Tatum, very similar kind of actors doing similar roles, who would break out, and Channing Tatum won. Right, okay.

You know what I mean? Now Taylor Kitsch is going to Ryan Phillippe it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Wait, who was Ryan Phillippe's arch nemesis? Gosling? Probably Gosling. Okay.

Or maybe even Damon? Yeah, okay. Maybe, maybe. No, it's kind of a bit after Damon. Who was around like 99, 2001. Freddie Prinze Jr. Yeah. They cancelled each other out, really, didn't they?

Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, I'm okay with that. Give him the role or don't give him the role. That's fine. But sad news, well, bad news, I should say, for Bryan Singer this week. Not to make light of this, I said to you before the podcast, we should just bring this up. Right.

Just to acknowledge that it is a thing that is occurring at this point in time. And then we'll be back to wackiness after this. Yes, back to wackiness straight away. But basically, Bryan Singer is not going to be doing any press for X-Men Days of Future Past, which is weeks away. He's found himself in the middle of a very serious rape accusation situation. Apparently, this occurred around 1998, 1999. Probably don't have to get into the details.

Okay, sure, fine. But basically, the person who accused him says that certain things happened. He's come out and said that he has alibis and none of these things have happened. And it's basically, it's very much up in the air at this point until the court date you know comes to pass so he'll be

Fox are very much distancing themselves from this so they've got like the writers and producers going out promoting the film as opposed to having seen it

right so yeah so when we don't see him at any press releases or any doing any interviews that's probably why so yeah exactly

so that's the thing that's happening I don't want to come in either way sure we can speculate let's speculate what do you think oh no so yeah exactly so that's the thing that's happening yep i don't want to come in either way sure we could speculate let's speculate what do you think oh no so yeah we'll leave that until uh probably forever i guess yeah it's not really it's not really in our wheelhouse is it not so much yeah all right let's move it along let's talk about what how jennifer lawrence got those got that great figure she sure does well speaking of they've been talking about in a

mystique spin-off film. I don't think it's because people love the character of Mystique. I think it's because Jennifer Lawrence is so hot right now. Correct. You know what I mean? So I think she's very much been the breakout role. I think it was her and Taylor Kitsch in 2009 were going head-to-head. That's the one.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would like to see some sort of spy movie with a Mystique in it. Absolutely. Sure. Definitely. Do you know why Professor X is walking in X-Men? see some sort of spy movie with a mystique in it. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah. Sure. Definitely. Do you know why Professor X is walking in X-Men? What's his deal there?

Days of Future Past? Probably the devil unbroke his legs. Remember? I remember. Yeah, no, I have no idea. I think it might be. Somebody mentioned, so this isn't my idea, but it says... Maybe Magneto has something to do with it? Yeah, possibly.

Well, he's walking before he comes up against Magneto again. So maybe it might be that he's using his... Not that this is a power that he can have. He's using all his mental powers to sustain his legs. Well, that could be it. I mean... But then at the loss of being able to read minds and whatever. Well, he has...

If I remember correctly, maybe they've retconned this out, he used to have some in the comic books and it's never been shown in the movies so much, but he did originally have some telekinesis and he burned it out. Ah, okay. I think. So maybe that's how he's doing it.

Gotcha. And he'll maintain that for a while. And maybe he'll embrace the mental capabilities of an X-Man as opposed to the physical. There we go. Because really, if he's just a guy walking, I can do that. Can you? I've never seen it. I've never seen you out of that chair, I'll be honest with you. It's always the same chair.

It doesn't matter where we are. We can be out in the world. I never answer the door. I always just yell out, come in. Yep. Nothing suspicious. I've seen photos from when you were up in the Gold Coast, and you're always at the pool in that weird chair with flowers on it.

You like the chair? Yeah, it's nice, actually. It's vintage. Great. I didn't buy it. It cost way too much. I'm on it. You like the chair? Yeah, it's nice actually. It's vintage. Great. I didn't buy it. It cost way too much. I'm against it. Well.

Yeah. Anyway. Let's move it along. No comment. Zack Snyder has revealed that... I'm going to ask you this question first. Did you think the plans for Batman versus Superman came before or after Man of Steel?

Before. That's my guess. You're wrong. I thought you were going to say after. I remember you saying that you felt like before Comic Con

they panicked and slapped two logos together. Oh, I did say that. Here's the thing. I forget most of what I say in this podcast. Yes. I forget what persona

I'm trying to adopt in this show. I don't really remember. Like, am I... I don't know. Am I trying to derail you this show. I don't really remember. Like, am I... I don't know. Am I trying to derail you every week? I don't even know anymore. Am I trying to help?

Who's to say? You change the fraction that you put in every week to the show. Some week it's a half. Some week it's two thirds. Sometimes I seven eighth it in. I seven eighth it arse it in. So, yeah. Well, Zack Snyder has revealed that after Man of Steel came out, he basically was in

discussions with Warner Brothers and he said, well, I guess the next step is Batman. And that's how this kind of whole thing started. Right, okay, yeah. So that really just goes to show that DC didn't really have a proper plan. Yep. But I mean, I know that because of the Kevin T who took over as the head of Warner Brothers, I know he's now pushing for a shared universe, which initially they were very much not doing. I feel a lot of the time it's just a case of

we need to put X hundred million dollars into this and then slap it all on lunchboxes. Like that's where all the money comes from is lunchboxes and action figures. I don't really care what's in the content. It's all merchandise. And that all began with Star Wars when George Lucas

made that incredible decision. To have Han shoot first or maybe not. Lunchbox. That's it. Now this is my most exciting news

from the week, Madison. Wait, Han chewed first. Is that a thing? Lunch? Lunch. Yeah, that's a thing.

That's all I do is I just rhyme words in my head until something's funny. Surprise! You love the admiral akbar ads don't snack bar sure yeah check that out on youtube if you haven't yeah admiral akbar snack bar this is my favorite news from the week mason superior um it's one of my favorite well it's a graphic novel i enjoy let's put it that way it's basically very cagey about that. What does that mean? Well, I never want to commit to say it's one of my

favourites or it is my favourite because I change every week on that, whatever I'm reading. I'm reading Fables at the moment. It's great. But Superior, I remember being really impressed with it by the time. It's basically about a boy, have you read it? Yeah, I've read it. It's a boy who's got MS, for those who don't know, and he's basically imbued with the magical, or the powers of

Superior. He's kind of a cross between Shazam or whatever he's called these days because they keep changing his name and Superman and it's very much

a homage to Christopher Reeve Superman and it's basically who is his favourite superhero in this fictional universe

exactly and what he does with those powers and the impact of that on the world and how it's the contrast between him being this boy who's crippled by this disease

that's eating away at him and then he gets the chance to do something amazing. And it's a really good book. It's written by... Mark Millar. Mark Millar, who's... I know I mentioned before, I'm not wrapped with all of his stuff,

but all in all, I really enjoy the stuff that he makes. And it's illustrated by... Me. No, it's not by you Lanel you not you you you're in

shut up but anyway he's a great artist as well he certainly is it's a beautiful book if you haven't checked it out uh definitely but basically um

Superior the rights to that have been picked up by Fox ugh and that that's alright and you know what Fox

doing X-Men or whatever and Fantastic Four. But I think as a standalone thing, they've got producer Matthew Vaughn behind it who did First Class. Yep. And he's currently directing Secret Surfers, which is also a Mark Millar book,

which isn't great, I don't think. Have you read Secret Surfers? I thought you said Secret Surfers for a second there. Yeah, Secret Surfers. Couldn't wrap my head around it. Just men in business suits, and they've got a surfboard down the back of their jacket. Secretly.

Just waiting for crime to happen so they can become the Secret Surfers. No, I haven't seen Secret Service. They're making the moment. No, it's the comic Secret Service. I haven't read it, no. That's fine. But I think there is a chance that Matthew Vaughn could direct this,

and Matthew Vaughn is a great director. So I'd love to see this story come to light. And I mentioned a few years ago I thought Jon Hamm would be a really good choice for Superior. Yeah, okay, yep. Because I know in the comic, for those who haven't read it, that the actor who plays Superior, because there's movies based on the character of Superior in the world where Superior suddenly appears.

Right, exactly. So people think that it's him, it's a whole side story. And he's supposed to be around 50. Yep. And that's Jon Hamm's age, so I think it could work. Yeah, I think we've discussed this, and I thought it might be a good idea to have Jon Hamm play the actor. Yeah.

And then, like... And have Hamm from Toy Story play... Thank you, that's all I've ever wanted. But have, like, Jon Hamm also play Superior, but kind of CGI him up so he's more just a fraction just a fraction so he's a little bit so he's a bit hyper real

yeah absolutely that is a brilliant idea thank you well done thanks you should Hollywood let us direct that one yes

now Mason there's also some Spider-Man news have you seen The Amazing Spider-Man 2 not yet I'll get there sure well we're not going to

talk about it yet thank god thank god it's not this episode because I haven't seen it yet because it's not

out in the US and a lot of our listeners are from the US so we'll save and we tried that once before with Thor

and we got done yeah we did like a fucking dinner yeah so but basically I saw it

I have a review which I haven't posted yet I made the review you should post it on YouTube. This is one of those episodes where you're against me. Yep.

I think it's okay without getting into the specifics of it. It's got some really great scenes. Okay, but would you say best movie ever or worst movie ever? Or you're not going to... You don't have to say now. I'm going to leave it for now. Say it for now. I'm going to leave it at this point.

It's okay. It's probably worth seeing Yep Or not Who cares But basically The producer Avi Arad

Who's produced All the Spider-Man films Yep All the ones that exist He says an Avengers crossover Will only happen When the studios Run out of inspiration

Or I assume that means When they wear their characters Right down Correct yes You know what I mean So he says that there's so much To tell in the Spider-Man universe You know you've got

The Sinister Six coming up You've got Venom You've got Spider-Man 3 You've got Spider-Man? So he says that there's so much to tell in the Spider-Man universe. You know, you've got the Sinister Six coming up. You've got Venom. You've got Spider-Man 3. You've got Spider-Man 4. So he said any appearances from Spider-Man in a shared universe would be... You've got Spived-a-Man, which is Spider-Man, but there's a five in the title. Spive-Fived-a-Man. You know?

I know exactly what you mean. Thank you. Yes. So he says any appearances in crossovers would be like a stunt. So that basically means that's what's going to happen. And God forbid Hollywood do a stunt. They're against them. They're all about integrity and being true to yourself.

And Jennifer Lawrence. Yes. Bellissimo. So, yeah, I mean, I guess that kind of crushes that for now. But I still wouldn't rule it out happening in the next few years. Because, as we keep saying or you in particular that the superhero

bubble is going to burst. It's going to burst. People who think it's not going to are kidding themselves. Yeah. Maybe it won't be for 10 years

but it's going to happen because think about every genre of movie was super popular. At one point westerns were the most popular films in the world and now westerns

are just okay. Yeah, yeah. Okay and you'll see like Django Unchained or 310 to Yuma, and they're good. Yeah, not to say they're gone forever. Yeah, but it's one a year. And people are like, oh yeah, they still do those kind of thing. And that'll happen with superhero movies, I think. That's exactly it.

Tarantino might do one. Yeah. Yeah. But I think we're definitely coming up more in a golden age now than we were. The closing night party for a comedy festival was Tarantino themed. And it's really difficult to come up with like a proper costume. Like you can be a, like I just went Reservoir Dogs, black suit, white shirt, black tie. I saw that photo.

You look great. Thanks, buddy. Which one were you? You look like Steve Buscemi. How dare you? I think, I guess I was Mr. Orange because the suit had three buttons on it. But anyway, the point is... Wow, you know real specifics, don't you?

I do. But yeah, the problem with a Tarantino themed costume is unless you are wearing exactly what they are, you just look like some random dude. Because if you like... If you say Bruce Willis from Pulp Fiction it's like yeah you have to wear

you have to be wearing light blue jeans white t-shirt a very specific brown yeah no no like a brown like brown suede

oh yeah that's right and shave your head yeah and then maybe you're Bruce Willis but maybe you're just some guy you have to look like Bruce Willis exactly yeah

it's difficult yeah so there are a lot of unless you go like Kill Bill yeah there are a lot of there were a lot of... Unless you go like Kill Bill. Yeah, there were a lot of... Or Blackface for Django Unchained. Exactly. There were a couple of Nazis.

It's inappropriate. Wow. There was a lot of Reservoir Dogs. There was a lot of Go Go Yubari, who's the girl in the... She's got the swingy... She's got the swingy mace. Yeah. Just as a schoolgirl, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. And not a lot else. No. Yeah. Anyway, digression. What were we talking about I don't know yes

Samuel L. Jackson's going to do be part of the live reading for The Hateful Eight by the way you know that movie that got shut down yeah yeah

that's exciting I guess that means that he didn't like it or does it remember we said maybe he really doesn't want to do this but Tarantino realised

that he liked it and he's like I'm going to make you I'll either sue you or you've got to do this. You've got to do all the characters. You got me, you got me. You're playing a schoolgirl.

Now, Mason. Yes. This week, I thought, leading up to The Amazing Spider-Man 2, Rise of Electro, which it's called in Australia, which I didn't know until I went and saw it. And it said Rise of Electro and I'm like, I thought that was like a Brazil thing. But apparently it's here as well. And it said Rise of Electro. And I'm like, I thought that was like a Brazil thing.

But apparently it's here as well. Because God forbid that you think it's, you confuse it with something else, I guess. Do you really need to say Rise of Electro? Who the fuck knows who Electro is? Oh, we have discussed this, haven't we? It's on YouTube. People can look that up. Still against you. Okay.

Yeah, yeah. No, that's it. Exactly. It adds nothing to it. Unless you know something about comic books. But even then, whose favorite villain is Electro? Nobody's. And he doesn't even look like the comic book Elect yeah. No, that's it. Exactly. It adds nothing to it unless you know something about comic books. But even then, whose favorite villain is Electro? Nobody is. Yeah.

And he doesn't even look like the comic villain. No. Well, in the Ultimates, he sort of does. Okay, right. But who reads the Ultimates? Nobody. Nobody. It's done.

It's done. It's done like a dinner, mate. So I thought this week, Mason, we're going to go through the Sam Raimi Spider-Man films, leading up to The Amazing Spider-Man. All right. I've got some trivia for each. Okay. I thought how we'll do this is, we'll talk a little bit about the film, how it impacted

our lives, how it changed us. Okay, sure. You know, emotionally. Uh-huh. And then I'll run us through some trivia, and then we'll name, well, you'll name the more worst movie ever at the end. Absolutely, I will. It's a foregone conclusion.

Basically, though, if you want to know more about the history of Spider-Man, Mason, we did an episode. You asked Stan Lee. Yes. And he'll tell you. episode... You asked Stan Lee. Yes. And he'll tell you. He'll bell you right up. Yep. If you go back to episode 11 of The Weekly Planet, I think we're up to 30 this week, actually.

Yeah. We did it? We did it. Yeah. But if you go back to episode 11, we go through the history of Spider-Man and basically I'm trying to get those films made. Uh-huh. Right up to the James Cameron one, which was the one in production just before Sam Raimi kind of took over. So, episode 11, check it out, Mason.

I probably won't because I was there, but other people should definitely do that because it's probably entertaining. You say you were there, but when I brought this up before the show, you went, dude, what? No memory of any of this. No memory. It's all gone. It's not just part, it's everything that I know. I don't take offense.

You had a great suit the other night though thank you all right let's start with spider-man one from 2002 a formative movie for comic book movies at the time it made 100 million dollars in the shortest amount of time ever which i think is still with adjusted to inflation that is the quickest movie to do so okay it was a massive hit at the time. Of course, it wasn't the first comic book movie. I think a lot of other movies kind of laid the foundation for it. Blade, X-Men, even Mystery Men. Things like that, in a small way, they kind of aided this movie. Do you remember when The Amazing Spider-Man,

whatever one that was called, came out? Did you think it was The Spider-Man, I mean, whatever one that was called came out, and did you think it was the Spider-Man? Yes. What? What did you think of it at the time? It was okay. Sure. It was... So you weren't even impressed with it then? I was impressed that they'd brought it to screen, but I

thought they could have done it better. Yeah. And you know, and I'm a guy who can get things done, so to say, you know, that carries a lot of weight. They could have done it better. Yeah. And, you know, and I'm a guy who can get things done. So to say, you know, that carries a lot of weight. They could have done it better. I mean, I guess it is, I completely agree with you. But I mean, in hindsight, it's easy to say that. Yep.

And that's why I just did it. But, you know, at the time, yeah, like you, I was impressed that they managed to bring it to life with such vigor. It was, it's it was yeah it was technologically it was flawless like yeah especially at the time yeah exactly yeah yeah so good on forgiving yeah and now if you go back and you do look at it it's it's a little bit jarring when it goes between spider-man in the suit just standing around and then he leaps off a building and it cuts to him cgi right exactly. I think they've only just got that right in the new one that just came out. But at the time, yeah, they developed specific technology just to do that.

And it was just at the time where they could do that where it didn't look ridiculous. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You do that five years earlier, it's a weird CGI blood fight from Blade. Yes, exactly. This came out in 2002. Yeah. This had a trailer initially, and. This came out in 2002. Yeah. This had a trailer initially, and you might be bringing this up,

but they had a trailer initially, and I think it was going to be the final scene in the film. Like, he's become Spider-Man, and then there's a bank robbery, and some guys escape. They get in a helicopter. They fly across New York City.

The helicopter's pulled back. And you see it's trapped in a giant web. And the web's between the Twin Towers. Yeah, exactly. Why'd they cut that out? It looked exciting. Why would they cut out the thing? It was a very tumultuous time.

Oh, I get it. I can't remember now. I remember what happened now. Yeah, yeah. That was... And I think... And that's reflected. This whole September 11 thing is very much reflected in that movie there's a lot of kind of new york kind of

sticking togetherness uh-huh which kind of carries over into some of those films you know like don't mess with new york spider-man and spider-man sitting in front of an american flag and all that kind of stuff uh things like that which which occurred at the time there was also some posters which are now collector's items which you see spider-man's eye in them he's training with al-qaeda yes that's right yes but you can see theMan's eye in them. He's training with Al-Qaeda. Yes, that's right. Yes. But you can see the Twin Towers reflected in his reflect-y, lens-y things. So, yeah, there was a few things that they yanked for that. But then there's also a bit in the movie where you see the Twin Towers and they don't in

the background and they haven't removed them. Okay. So, you know, it's a bit here, it's a bit there. But basically, Stan Lee said, Mason, in a radio interview, that he thought John Cusack would be the perfect choice to play Spider-Man. What do you think? Nope. What about, like, late 80s, early 90s?

Yeah, okay, 80s, yeah. Not, like, not in 2002. No. I mean, the trivia I got from this was from around the time this movie came out, so I presume you said this, this hopefully years before. Decades beforehand, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Like, yeah, 80s John Cusack.

I would be on board with that. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, sure. Several Spider-Man costumes were created, Mason. Ooh! Each of them costing $100,000. Four went missing at the time.

They were stolen. Turned out to be... Us wearing them right now. That's right. We're wearing two each. Sweet fit. Yep. And they turned up online a few years later for sale.

I remember. And I bought them. Yes. That's why... Okay, continue. Sorry. The people involved... I won't labour this forever.

Yeah, got done. But they offered a $25,000 reward for those to be returned. Because they had the mould of the body and then they had computer printed webbing that they put on them. Those are, at the time, and still are. They're pretty impressive kind of looking costume. Was that like 3D printed? Yeah, yeah. Wow, that would have been expensive back in the day.

That's it. It was something like that. I mean, I might be wrong, but when have I ever been wrong before? Never been wrong. So there you go. Now, as you know, Tobey Maguire worked out like a mad dog for this role. Absolutely he did. The results are clear.

That's right. That was one of the things that really impressed me about him for the role. I know we've said he's not perfect for the role, and he's certainly not. But he certainly, I think he, as far as his physique went and these acrobatics that he kind of did, well, most of the time it probably wasn't him. No. But I think he looked great. For that one scene where he's in the mirror and he flexes.

Yeah, yeah. It was like a five-month regime of exercise, weight training, martial arts, as well as eating high-protein meals four to six times a day. Now, that's quite common now, but back then, that was pretty... Yeah, yeah. It wasn't the norm. If you were cast in a Spider-Man movie, and they're like, look, there's one scene where you have to flay, and you look real great, and you look real good in the mirror, and

you're like, hmm. But for the rest, you're completely covered head to toe in a red and blue bodysuit. Nobody ever sees it. Maybe it's you. Maybe it's not you. Wouldn't you just get them a CGI, like a bodybuilder's body? Yeah. Your head on a bodybuilder's body, right?

Absolutely you would. What's great about this movie, though, is they had the foresight to film the scene where Peter Parker faints in his room after the spider bite six months before. Okay, yeah. So where he's quite thin and kind of whatever. And then they film the next part six months later. Good call, yeah. Which is great.

But I know Nicolas Cage's body in Ghost Rider is CGI'd. Just the whole thing. There's a bit where he's also in front of the mirror flexing. There we go, see, yeah. And that's, but yeah, as I said, that's quite common now, but then it was unusual. Like you get like, I don't know, Michael Keaton for Batman, who's never worked out a day in his life. Don't get me wrong, I love Keaton. Yeah.

You know I love Keaton. Absolutely. Not those movies, but I love Keaton. Absolutely, you do. So, you know. That's true, you never wrong, I love Keaton. Yeah. You know I love Keaton. Absolutely. Not those movies, but I love Keaton. Absolutely, you do. So, you know. That's true, you never see him shirtless or anything.

Yeah. The first Marvel movie to showcase the flipping Marvel page logo. Okay, yeah. Which now excites us every time we see it. It is good fun.

Yeah. I try to see who's in the thingamajigs. It's often different pages and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah. It normally relates to the superhero, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? Yeah, it does. You know what we love, though? What's that? Ang Lee's Hulk. We've got an episode on that. Yeah, yeah. It normally relates to the superhero, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? Yeah, it does. You know what we love, though? What's that? Ang Lee's Hulk. We'll get an episode on that. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, great. You know what I hate? The DC logo, the new one. Because it's the weird little flappy over. It's supposed to represent a comic book or something like pages of a book.

Do you like how they've individualized them to each character? No. Do you like Batman? Yeah. Cool. As long as we're clear.

But it's terrible. Yeah. What about the old logo with the stars in it yeah i agree and the one after that they'll probably go back to it good but the dc movie logo is different than the um the other one yeah yeah or it's still i just wanted something to complain about sure absolutely so opening day it made 39.4 million so it held this record that movie that record was then broken by Spider-Man 2, and then again broken by Spider-Man 3, and then not broken by The Amazing Spider-Man. Bad luck, guys. Bad luck, Mark Webb.

But I think the second one, it's tracking to do very good business. Okay. So it could very well happen. Now, the genetically modified spider that bit Peter Parker was not a Black Widow spider. I never assumed that it was. Neither did I. But it was a stetoda spider and was painted red and blue while the spider was anesthetized.

I thought you were going to say it was paid. Like it was paid $45,000. And that spider was Daniel Day-Lewis. Wow, he's so good. He's so good. He got genetically modified into a spider. Yeah, yeah. There's a lot of practical stuff in this movie.

You know the bit where he catches all the food on the tray? That's practical. Like, they had this tray stuck to his hand, and it had to fall a certain way where the food stuck to the tray. That took, like, many takes. Was that magnetic or something? I think it was stickiness. Great.

But, yeah, things like painting the spider. Like, I would never have thought they would do that. I thought they'd just CGI it. Yeah, yeah. But, hey, that spider must have felt pretty good though. Pretty sweet in his sweet Spider-Man costume, right? Yes. Yeah, yeah.

Now in the comics, you know, Peter Parker designed and made Spider-Man web shooters. You're familiar with that? Yes. In the movie, he shoots him from his own body like a creep. Absolutely he does. In some sort of metaphor of puberty, I think. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Do you remember there was a Jack Black MTV Movie Award parody of Spider-Man at the time? Remember they used to do that? I don't remember it, but I'm sure there was, yeah. I remember there was a Ben Stiller Mission Impossible one. Yep, and there was a Matrix, Justin Timberlake one. They used to do it. And the Lord of the Rings one also with Jack Black.

So it was Jack Black becoming Spider-Man and they made the metaphor that maybe it's something else shooting out, you know. Oh, that maybe it's something else shooting out. Oh, I get it. Kind of blah, blah, blah. Like cotton candy. Exactly. Yeah, exactly.

Like every teenage boy. Director Sam Raimi assumed, no, answered the protest from comic book fans saying it was more credible, which it is, I think. Well, not, it's hard to say. It's really not. It's unusual for a six, seven-year-old boy to make something like that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, they sort of address it in The Amazing Spider-Man. They say he makes the web shooters himself, and he does. Yeah. But he doesn't make the thread. No, he just steals it. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. And you know that, because you watched The Amazing Spider-Man. I did, just recently. Yeah. Yeah. I was under duress. It's on theweeklyplanet.bandcamp.com, Mason.

New audio commentary. Check it out if you want it. We'll talk about that later. Yeah, totally, yeah. I was going to say, Spider-Man's powers are just a completely random grab bag, though, when you actually think about it. Yeah.

I know comedians have talked about this and stuff like that, but... Which ones? I can't remember. But, you know, he's got superhuman strength, which I guess... Which varies. Which varies. Yeah. He's got six to walls. Six to guess... Which varies. Which varies. Yeah. He's got six of walls.

Six of walls. In some sort of vague sense now. Again, in Spider-Man, it's like... Little spiny things. Little spiny things on his hands. And he's got a danger sense. Yeah. It's a psychic danger sense.

Yeah, yeah. Like spiders have. Like spiders have. Yeah. Because how many times have you gone and hit a spider and they quickly jump out of the way? Yeah, that's not... The answer's not once. Exactly. You squish many times have you gone and hit a spider and they quickly jump out of the way? Yeah, that's not... The answer's not once. Exactly.

You squish them. You squish them real good. But yeah, it's just a completely assortment of... Like a lot of animals stick to walls. Yeah. A lot of, you know...

Bears. Bears stick to walls. Horses. Horses stick to walls. Goats. No, you're thinking of possums. Stingrays. If you fling a stingray

against a wall, it'll stick. Yeah, yeah. Give it the old flingray. Now, basically, in the comics, though, they had Peter Parker undergo another transformation at the time. I remember that, yeah. Where he turned into a giant spider, and then he was born out of that spider. It was very weird.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. At the time, it was great. I don't know. I don't believe so. But yeah, he got web spinners. He became stronger. Yeah. And he gained the ability to speak to weird. Yeah, yeah, yeah. At the time, it was great. I don't... Who knows? I don't believe so. But yeah, he got web spinners. He became stronger. Yeah. And he gained the ability to speak to spiders.

Yeah. Which they've never talked about again. No. Well, they retconned that in 2007. Yeah, yeah. In the One More Day storyline. I remember, yeah. Where they went back to that.

I haven't read that one. I read the other one. But I remember at the time, gang, that was pretty weird. Yeah. Yeah. And I know... It's also the thing about why does he shoot them from his wrists and blah, blah, blah. And not. Yeah. Yeah. And I know it's also the thing about why does he shoot them from his wrists and blah, blah, blah.

And not his butthole. Exactly. I know, haha. But that's always strange. There's one of those scientifically accurate Spider-Man videos on YouTube. Like, what would Spider-Man really be like if he really existed?

It's really creepy. But, you know, check it out. I understand you don't want to talk about YouTube, though. That's the last one. That's the last one I'll do unless I think of a... You know it hurts me and you just... Unless I think of a... You know it hurts me and you just... Unless I think of a real zinger

and I'll save it up. Okay. Alright. Now, Willem Dafoe was cast as the Green Goblin which we've talked about before. That costume is not good. But he looks like the Green Goblin.

He's incredible in that role, right? Yeah. Tobey Maguire may be a little bit of a miscast but he was great. There's some other people who offered the role.

I'm ready. Leslie Nielsen. I was trying to think of someone else called Leslie. I don't know. I know someone in my personal... Leslie Mann. Yep. Michael Mann.

Michael Myers. My The Department Store. That's an Australian reference. Yes, it is. Americans won't get that. No. Nicholas Cage. Nope.

John Malkovich. Yep. We'll talk about him later. Okay. Nicolas Cage. Nope. John Malkovich. Yep. Talk about him later. Okay. Bill Paxton. Ah, okay. I think that might have carried over from James Cameron's Spider-Man. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

The only thing that actually carried over from James Cameron's Spider-Man was the organic web shooters. Everything else they scrapped. And all the underwater sequences filmed on his submarine. If you go back to episode 11, though, and you hear him talk about that, it's a good thing they scrapped most of that because it's fucking weird. This one blows my mind because you know I have a personal hatred against this man. Is it John Travolta? Yes.

Yeah, no, that's not going to work. It's not going to work at all. He doesn't work on, no, not at all. Too many chances, Mason. Yeah. I've talked about this before. He's got too many chances. He's not going to work at all. He doesn't work on, no. Not at all. Too many chances, Mason. Yeah. I've talked about this before. He's got too many chances. He's a dickhead.

Robert De Niro. Okay. I guess. Yeah. I mean, probably early 90s Robert De Niro would be better. Yeah, definitely, yeah. But, you know, I guess that's okay. Now, the role was originally also intended to be played by Billy Crudup, who dropped

out for other projects, and he was also considered too young for the role. But I think Billy Crudup would have been good. Okay, yeah. Yeah, sure. Paxton, Bill Paxton's father actually still appears in the film. His father, Bill Pullman. Yes, his father, Bill Pullman. Uh-huh.

No, he's actually Osborne's elderly housekeeper. Oh, yeah. I never knew that. It's the one that reveals at the end, oh, I could have blah, blah, blah. We're going to talk about that later because I've got some trivia about that that will blow your mind apart. The studio also...

I could have saved you all a lot of trouble but I couldn't be bothered for some reason, sir. The studio expressed an interest in Alina DiCaprio taking on the role. Of Spider-Man? Yes. Okay. At the time, I think.

They're just like the same age aren't they yeah McGuire and the other guy Freddie Prinze Jr Scott Speedman I would have said Freddie Prinze Jr

is more of a Flash Thompson type yeah I agree Scott Speedman yeah or as I call him the best part about the Underworld films

is he Kate Beckinsale oh yeah actually good point she's good in those movies. But those movies are pretty... Yeah. What are they?

What's going on there? Exactly. They're not a thing, are they? Exactly. I watched four. Uh-huh. I don't know what happened. Yeah.

She fought a really big werewolf in it, though. Great. I also watched three, which has no original cast members except the guy from The Queen, the British guy who plays Tony Blair all the time. You know the guy who's always playing Tony Blair? I think his actual name is Tony Blair. Probably Tony Blair, yeah. Jay Roden.

I don't know who that is. Nope, no idea. And James Franco, also tested for the part. James Franco also dyed his hair brown for the role, because apparently he has much darker hair. So he looked more like Willem Dafoe. The only person who looks like Willem Dafoe is the Green Goblin mask. Correct, yes. The cartoon. The comic book Green Goblin mask. Correct, yes. The cartoon.

The comic book Green Goblin mask, exactly. In the final battle between Spider-Man and the Goblin, the CGI artists had to change the colour of blood pouring out of Spider-Man's mouth to a clear liquid, indicating spit, which is gross. Mmm. This was his... Mortal Kombat style. Is that what happened in Mortal Kombat?

No, on the Super Nintendo version back in the day. In the mid-90s. Yeah, yeah, they did. Annoying. That's weird, on the Super Nintendo version back in the day. In the mid-90s. Yeah, they did. Annoying. That's weird, right? But you couldn't change it back.

No, you could on the... Second one. The Sega one was blood all the way. The Sega one you needed a

code to unlock the blood, yeah. Were you a Nintendo guy or a Sega guy? I was a Nintendo guy but I had a Game Gear.

Oh my god. So I got Mortal Kombat on the Game Gear. You must have just hated yourself. Just torn up inside.

Yeah, absolutely. Game Gear. I had Atari Lynx. i know you did we mentioned that constantly many times i didn't have a sega but i was more of a sega game because i like the speed of sonic and i liked his can-do attitude that being said in general the mario games are better that's true that's very true all right the sonic games essentially you could play maybe the first 10 levels you just hold the control pad to the right and just run. And you'd finish the level. Sometimes you get stuck in a thing that spins you really fast and shoots you.

Yep. And that helps. Yeah. Why can't they get that character right, Mason? Why can't they be true to Sonic? Yeah, the Sonic we all know and love. The Sonic we have in our hearts. That's right.

What are we talking about? Hugh Jackman also revealed that he was supposed to have a brief... His abs? Yes. He was supposed to have a brief cameo as Wolverine. This must have been at a time when studios weren't really fussed about crossing over these kind of things. Because also, and I mentioned this I think in that commentary track we did recently, Bandcamp dot something, that Spider-Man turns up in a deleted scene in the X-Men.

Yes. As a goof. As a goof, yeah. Well, it's not actually Tobey Maguire, but it's a guy in a deleted scene in the X-Men. Yes. As a goof. As a goof, yeah. Well, it's not actually Tobey Maguire, but it's a guy in a suit. Right, right, right. Jackman actually showed up to film in New York, but it was scrapped when the crew couldn't get access to the Wolverine costume. Hey, we're trying to get access to the Wolverine costume over here.

Forget about it. Yeah. Peter Jackman getting one of them yellow cabs and hightail it over the Brooklyn Bridge. We need a Wolverine costume, New York style. I'm really enjoying that. I was hesitant to do the New York accent, but now I've got it real good. I'm having fun with it.

So, yeah, but I think if you have him turn up in the movie, right, wouldn't it be better to have him not in the costume? Yeah. Because it would be weird if just Wolverine turned up and was in the costume. In the full X-Men, the black leather X-Men costume. And just stood around. Yeah, yeah. If he's not going to team up, what's the costume. In the full X-Men, the black leather X-Men costume. And just stood around. Yeah, yeah. He'd have to...

If he's not going to team up, what's the point? Beat it. Yeah, yeah. New York style. If he's going to show up in the battle armor, he better be doing some battling. Yeah, you know it. But if he's just wearing regular clothes, he'd just be like, no, I don't have time for this.

I'm going to go. I got some cigars to smoke. Exactly. Yeah, whatever. All right, Mason. Well, I don't have time for this. I'm going to go. I got some cigars to smoke. Exactly. Yeah, whatever. All right, Mason. Well, that's all the trivia for Spider-Man 1. I think it did a lot of good stuff

for comic book movies. I think I liked that it had a comic book tone, even though maybe the tone wasn't dead on all the way through. But it was a good time for something when it happened.

And I was glad it came out. So you're giving it worst movie ever. I have to give it... I am, though. I really give it best movie ever because it happened. And I was glad it came out. So you're giving it worst movie ever. I have to give it... I am, though. I'm going to give it best movie ever because it did a lot for the time. Yeah, alright. You're going to give it worst...

I'm glad it exists, but worst movie ever. Yep, sure. Next up, Mason. Spider-Man 3. Great. Let's actually do a... No, okay. Do you want to?

No, it doesn't matter. I don't mind. Let's do 3. Let's do 3. I have to skip down to my... No, it'll ruin it. No, I don't mind. It's not logically...

Wait. Okay, cool. Let's do it. Now, my three. I have to skip down to my part. No, it'll ruin it. No, I don't know. It's not logically going to ruin it. Wait. Okay, cool. Let's do it. Now, my first fact for Spider-Man 3 is... The sequel to Spider-Man 2. Or is it? I got Spider-Man 3, first fact, is dumb. Because it is dumb.

It is dumb. It's real dumb. Now, I remember seeing this at the time and just walking out going, what was that? Yeah. But I remember that was also at the time when I started looking at Rotten Tomatoes scores and had like 68. And I'm like, oh, this might not be very good. Uh-huh, yeah.

And my God, it was not very good. Absolutely. I've said this before. There's elements that are good. Yep. Sandman is good. Yep. William H. Macy, whatever his name is.

What's the guy who plays Sandman? Oh, Thomas Hayden Church. Thomas Hayden Church. Ned from Ned and Stacey. Yeah. He worked out for like 16 months for that or something ridiculous. If you had to describe

how he worked out, like based on 16 months, how would you say he worked out? New York style. New York style, like a mad dog. Like a mad dog. But like,

he was great in that and he signed on before reading the script because he had so much faith in the films or whatever because off the back of spider-man 2 which we talked about right we went through that yeah we did yeah yeah you know so i mean like he's great venom incredibly miscast yes and i type of grace is fine i'm we've talked about this yeah exactly yeah but like i guess they wanted a

physical opposite number yeah but you don't want a physical you want somebody who is bigger and more threatening just even without the costume that's it exactly

he was just kind of a weird creepy character to put in and there's the bit where he just kind of leaps about where it's like at the start

he's kind of friendly with everybody and he's just kind of a bit of a kind of creep and then in the end he's like dear god I pray that Peter Parker

gets murdered right right yeah it's all it's all very it's one of those moments and i know you're a fan of this in movies where the villain becomes insane for no reason right exactly yeah every other spider-man villain in those movies regardless of what you think of those films there is logical steps towards them becoming what they are except for him right there's also the fact that the venom symbiote turns up out of nowhere. Out of outer space. Again, this is on my YouTube channel. And it runs into the only guy in the world with superpowers.

Yes. And gives him more superpowers. Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's exactly it. Yeah. What was I going to say about that? You loved it. Yeah, I loved it.

That certainly is. But I remember saying that you didn't hate this more than the other ones. No, I do hate it more than the other ones. Okay, okay good we never really get a good look at venom no it's it's all he's always in the shadows and yeah kind of creeping about yeah we never get we never get a really solid shot of him just tearing something up with his jaws yeah like that but i think when i think venom i think those those crazy fake sweet jaws the sweet jaws. Yeah, the sweet jaws. We never saw that happen, yeah. Also in the comics, doesn't he often pull his mouth back and you see the face of whoever's wearing the suit underneath?

I don't ever think that happened at any point. No, it sort of pulls back a bit and you can see sort of... Webbing, stickiness. Webbing sort of attachments to his face. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. But it's just a bizarre movie. Yeah, yeah.

Like, obviously it suffers from villain overload. And again, I've said this before, if you cut Venom out of that movie and you make it a Sandman story, that suddenly is a pretty good film. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think. Except for the dancing. And I've said this before as well, I think, that I think maybe Sam Raimi put Venom in to ruin it for everybody else. Because he was against it, he was against it, he was against it, and then all of a sudden they put him in.

Yeah. And I think Marvel must have said, or somebody must have said, hey, look, all the research says Venom is the best character. People loved him. People loved him and wanted to see him. I've got a fact about that, yeah. Originally... And I was going to say that he maybe just put him in and went, okay, I'm going to kill him at the end.

Yep. And then nobody else can use him. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Sam Raimi out. And then Ted Raimi's like, Ted Raimi out. And everyone's like, shut up, Ted Raimi's like Ted Raimi out and everyone's like shut up Ted Raimi yeah

go back to Hercules the legendary journeys or whatever you were in Sea Quest was he in Sea Quest? I don't know he probably was Star Quest

Stargate I loved Sea Quest at the time yeah me too Roy Schneider or Scheider whatever his name is Roy Scheider

Blue Lightning yes remember that one? no about the helicopter Roy Schneider's got Lightning. Yes. Remember that one? No. About the helicopter. Roy Schneider's got Blue Thunder. You got me.

Yeah. Yeah. You know your Roy Scheider movies. Absolutely. Yeah. Now, Sam Raimi said he was opposed to having Venom, and I remember saying that at the time, because he claimed he hated Venom's lack of humanity,

which is a good point. But the producer, Avi Arad, who's still the producer, convinced him to include the character because of the strong worldwide following, and Raimi apparently eventually came to appreciate the character. Ha! Which is not true. Not at all. Had him explode.

Exploded him at the end. Yeah. No trace. Yeah. No way of coming back. I remember when I saw that at the cinema, you saw his skeleton when he exploded. You do, yeah, yeah. But going back and watching that again, just that scene, you don't see his skeleton.

So maybe they can have brought him back. So we both had a group hallucination. Yes. Do you think, maybe we saw it at the same cinema, maybe there was a very, there was like a rogue Banksy of the cinematic world, and he went in and he hand drew a skeleton onto that frame. It's very possible. And now we've been going around telling people we see the skeleton, but there wasn't a skeleton.

And now we have this amazing platform that reaches potentially billions of people. And we're just spreading lies. Yeah, to billions of people. And you know the scene where Spider-Man punches through Sandman's chest? By the way, all that sand a lot of the time, it's like ground up corn. Huh. So yeah, because apparently sand to work with is incredibly dangerous. Sand doesn't look like sand.

No. Well, that's right, because corn looks very good on film. Sand looks like cats. So you've got to grind up some corn. And cats stick to walls. Exactly. Yeah. You know how he punches through Sandman's chest?

I remember that. That was actually an amputee by the name of Baxter Humby, who did that particular scene thing. Hang on, where was he amputated from? Oh, he wasn't actually amputated, sorry. I've got that wrong here. Congenital amputee. So born without an arm.

Oh. Born without one arm. So that's pretty incredible. I mean, I think that's great. So was he in the Spider-Man costume? Yeah, yeah. Okay. And they did the punch.

Interesting. Yeah, I like that. Yeah. That's kind of practical kind of stuff I love, Mason. Yeah, yeah. But yeah. Also, there's that weird scene where Sadman goes into the thing. Sadman.

I was a sadman. That's my power for watching Spider-Man 3. You know when he goes into the big nuclear turbine, whatever. Which is always a great idea. Yeah, and they're like, it's just a bird. Don't worry about it. And I think that's in a How It Should Have Ended video, but you would check to see if that was really a bird.

You'd have a camera in there, probably. You probably would. Yeah. That's why we're not scientists. Correct, yeah. And now the we're not scientists. Correct. Yeah. Yeah. And now the union between Venom and Sandman

originally had Venom just offering Sandman cash to save his daughter. Because if you remember, there was a Sandman sick daughter scene. Yeah, I remember that. He was like, I love your daughter. Why are you so sick for? She's like, I don't know, man.

Yeah. Forget about it, you know? But during the battle, Sandman's daughter would come and tell her father that she could not be cured and was going would come and tell her father that she could not be killed and was going to die, and wanted her father to die a good man, even though he'd killed a lot of people up to that point. Sure, he sure had.

Including Uncle Ben. Uncle Ben Parker. So, yeah. Whoopsie. Yeah, yeah. Do you know Harry's lab in that? You know, he's called New Goblin, though he's never referred to as New Goblin. I think Spider-Man calls him Goblin Junior at one point.

Remember how Peter Parker, at the height of his badness, well, first of all, he punches Mary Jane. But there's also another scene. Also the dance sequence, which is arguably much worse. No, it's clearly not worse. Before you send in any emails, I know. The jazz bar scene. You know the bit, the jazz bar, where Peter Parker's playing piano?

Yep. It's a weird scene. Yes. That took two weeks to film. Right. Unnecessary. But anyway, yeah, in Harry's lab, there's the Green Goblin mask. At what point during that two-week shoot do you go, hey...

This is shit. This is a waste of time. This will look... Hey, this will look real dumb. Maybe let's take the second week off. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That was the height of emo hair as well.

Ted McGuire looks real weird with emo hair. Well, anybody does, I guess. And they dyed it black as well? Yeah. Yeah, okay, yeah. Yeah, yeah. But there's a hobgoblin mask in there from the comics. So there you go.

So maybe he considered other costumes before settling on a ski mask. Yeah, yeah. Which is a weird choice. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So an orange. So it's orange. Yeah, apparently. I have not seen this. Me, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So an orange, so it's orange.

Yeah, apparently. I've not seen this. Me neither. And we'll never know. I'm going to Google it while you talk. Okay, sure. I'm going to see if this is real. Sam Raimi was also the first director at the time to helm all three installments of a superhero

franchise. At that time, Bryan Singer had only made two X-Men movies. Now he's doing three. Tim Burton only had done two Batman movies. Christopher Nolan is second with his Dark Knight trilogy. That obviously came a few years later. So there, there you go. So that was pretty unheard of at the time.

Originally, Sam Raimi's Something About Venom said that before. The first Spider-Man film, which the main villain, Sandman, actually survives at the end of the film. That is, of course, until The Amazing Spider-Man. Spoiler alert if you haven't seen that movie from 2012. It was also rumoured. This is really interesting. Yep.

But you're looking up a thing. Did you find it? No, no. I'm listening to you. Did you find it? No, no. Well, there is this one and it's just sort of a...

See, there's the green goblin mask and there's a more silvery goblin-y mask. Yeah. Maybe that's it. Is that it? Maybe that is it. It might be.

It's not very hobgobliny, is it? No. Well, maybe the internet has lied to us yet again. Oh, there's a goldy kind of look on it? Yeah, that's it. That's probably it. Yeah. Not impressed.

It's the same one. It's recoloured. Yeah. Now, it was also rumoured, you know, John Jameson, who nearly marries Mary Jane Parker. Star Wolf, sure. Star Wolf, yes. When did he become Star Wolf? In the 80s.

Sure. Yeah. He originally was going to marry Mary Jane Watson in the second Spider-Man movie, if you recall, which we talked about. Yep. Not as of yet. Unless you jumped ahead and then you went back to this. People may have. Maybe.

I told you there'd be continuity issues. I bloody told you. You did. Good thing there's no rules here, man. Yeah, yeah. Who's going to stop me? Nobody. That's right. This is like a Pulp here, man. Who's going to stop me? Nobody. This is like a Pulp Fiction situation. We're doing it out of sequence.

But once you get to the end, you'll be like, oh, that was clever. They really tied that together. Yeah, absolutely. We're dickheads, aren't we? Yeah. The sooner everyone realizes it, the better. Now, John Jaberson was originally going to make a reappearance because he is an astronaut. It is mentioned

in the second movie. And he was going to unknowingly bring back... The Venom symbiote. Which makes total sense. Total sense. More sense than what happened. Exactly. Which was nothing. Here's another one that will blow your mind.

You know what? Just get that act. You know what you could do? Just get the actor. Yep. Make a short film about that. Put it on YouTube. Sorry.

Blip. Vimeo. Put it on Vimeo. And then just make like one of the Marvel one shots. Absolutely. And then that would solve all the continuity issues and I'd be slightly happier about that movie and life in general. Sure.

Well, you know, I forgot what I was going to say immediately. Something about Star-Wolf? Nah. I'll come back to it. Symbiote. It's crap. Actually, there was a test footage for the other symbiote suit, which was very much like the original one. No kind of raised webbing on it.

Just black and slick. Okay, yeah. But they didn't end up going with that. It looked kind of interesting, but something black and slick is kind of hard to do in real life. That looking real weird. Yeah. You know? Yeah.

You know? I know. You know. Originally, the butler, Bill Pullman, Bill Paxton's father, was going to be an illusion of Harry's, representing his good side. So on one side, you've got his father like, Harry, I'm in a mirror. Be a goblin! And the butler's like, or whatever.

One million points to Gryffindor. We've got to do a Harry Potter episode. We're doing it. Not next week. It'll take us ten years to watch those movies. Even though this would have cleared up a massive plot hole, that being the butler explaining to Harry that his father's wounds were his father's own doing.

So that would have cleared up a lot. But then again, it's also weird going, your butler's imaginary. Or not, I don't know. And also, it could have been a solution solved with a post-it note on the fridge. Just put it on, even if you don't have time And also, it could have been a solution solved with a post-it note on the fridge. Just put it on. Even if you don't have time to tell it to him in person, just put it on the fridge. Hey, father's wounds are self-inflicted. Party on.

Party on, dude. So that's pretty much all I have to say. I left some caviar in the fridge. The rich man's... Spatchcock. What's that? It's like a bird. Like a hen.

Because I'm such a man of the common people. Cornish game hen, yes. I know what that is. I eat them every day. I know. All right. That's pretty much it, Mason, for Spider-Man 3. Hang on, you were saying something about I'm being a man of the people?

No. No, it doesn't matter. Okay. Edit that out. No. No, leave it in. Let's go back to Spider-Man 2, Mason. Unless you have anything else to say about Spider-Man 3, which is the Batman and Robin

of Spider-Man movies. Yeah, it is, isn't it? Though, Josh Wilding, editor at ComicBookMovie.com, said the amazing Spider-Man 3 which is the Batman and Robin of Spider-Man movies yeah it is isn't it though Josh Wilding editor at comicbookmovie.com said the amazing Spider-Man 2 is the Batman and

Robin of comic book movies he's great as well Josh Wilding he comes up with great headings and stuff he's a good dude

I like him anyway go on was I saying that or was you saying no you was saying mate I was saying you was saying it

yeah yeah so let's do you want to jump down to Spider-Man 2? You know what? We'll save the best for last, right? This is the best one? I believe so.

Spider-Man 2? By the way, Spider-Man 3, obviously worst movie ever. Absolutely. Yeah. Sure. Didn't have anything new to the table. Ridiculous. Tobey Maguire's agent for Spider-Man 2 asked for $25 million or 10% of the gross.

When you said Tobey Maguire's agent, I just imagined him as Bruce Campbell. Sure. That would be good, right? That would be amazing. Yep. He'd be the best agent. He'd really go in a bat for you, wouldn't he? I think so.

Just like Burn Notice. Yep, that's right. Yeah. Or 10% of the gross. Whichever was better. This was denied because that is ridiculous. Absolutely it is. It was so ridiculous.

10% of the gross, that's insane. Yeah, that movie made a shit ton of money. I don't have the exact numbers, but... That could be $100 million. It could be $100 billion. Wow. It's not. No, that's a large amount of money.

I've said a ridiculous thing there. Tobey Maguire's participation was actually in doubt because he was suffering from severe back pains. Some people think that maybe he played that up or his agents played that up to try and get more money out of him. Right, right, right. But while that was happening, Jake Gyllenhaal,

they were lining him up to take over the role. Interesting, yeah. And he'd already begun preparation. The rich man's Tobey Maguire. I believe so. Jake Gyllenhaal. Yeah, yeah. But Maguire decided to take the part after all,

which he would. I mean, come on. Yeah, yeah. What else are you doing? That was also parodied in Entourage where Vinnie Chase takes on... Could do the movie and then he couldn't do the movie

then he could do the movie. This is a very rare situation where Vinnie didn't end up doing the movie. Oh, he didn't do the movie. Because he did Aquaman and then he was contracted to do Aquaman 2 but then he found out that Michael Bay was directing it and not James Cameron.

Marathon in Blue. That's right. That's amazing. Thank you. You would have had no no idea that i was gonna bring that up and you just nailed that thank you good work comedy gold victory weekly planet.com or whatever yeah we don't have the weekly planet.com while you talk i'm gonna look it up and see what it is i've looked it up it's nothing the. It's not porn? It's so much porn. No, it's not. Basically, what was I saying? Something about Vinny Chase.

Yeah. Yeah, he was Aquaman and then in the show, why am I talking about this? But you love Entourage. I sure do. You're looking forward to that movie. So much. And then he was going to do part two,

but then he found out that James Cameron was going to do it and Michael Bay came on board and he flipped out and the studio cut him and they got in Jake Gyllenhaal. Right, okay. So they kind of parried that. However, according to the DVD commentary, there's a my back joke in the movie where

Peter falls from the roof and he lands on the car. It's a brutal fall as well. Great scene. And they say that that was written into the script before Maguire's problem arose. So that's interesting. I feel like I should have left that one out no it was a it was a piece of trivia that foretold the future did there you go uh first appearance of kurt connor's mentioned in part one yep seen in part two was supposed to take

on the lizard we'll talk about that later but something something whatever uh the original title for the second spin, I don't know why they wrote it like that, was The Amazing Spider-Man, which I think would have been a better title for the film, but it probably would have confused people. It was actually, and there was another title they were going to go for,

which was The Amazing Spider-Man Rise of Electro. That's not true. You're talking lies. I am. All right. Chris Cooper. You're familiar with Chris Cooper? He plays Norman Osborn in The Amazing Spider-Man 2.

Oh, yeah. He was originally considered for the role of Doctor Octopus. Let's see. We've got Freddy Molina. Yeah. Alfred Molina. Freddy Molina. Great.

Oh, by the way, at the time, I haven't talked about this, what did you think of Spider-Man 2? I remember enjoying it the most. Yeah. There was the great, I haven't talked about this, what did you think of Spider-Man 2? I remember enjoying it the most. Yeah. There was the great, I think there was the great teaser trailer where Peter and Mary Jane are sitting in a cafe, having a little heart-to-heart. Peter doesn't love her anymore. She feels distraught, and then all of a sudden,

the car gets flung through the window. Amazing. That was great, yeah. Yeah, yeah. That blew my mind at the time. I think creatively, Spider-Man 2 was the best. Absolutely. For me, that train scene at the end still, I think creatively, Spider-Man 2 was the best one for action sequences. For me, that train scene at the end still, I think, is the best Spider-Man.

Like stunt sequence. Absolutely. Or maybe even one of the best comic movie stunt sequences. You're probably right, yeah. Wolverine did the train. Yeah, yeah. But I think the Spider-Man one's better. He trumped it.

But it just keeps escalating that whole thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's incredible. But there's also the bit where he takes the mask off and they're like, don't worry, Spider-Man, we're in New York. We love you. Yeah, exactly. We won't tell no one.

Those kids... Those really undercut those films for me. Yeah, sure. They really take it out. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. But the kids in that actually who hand him back the mask, they're Tobey Maguire's half-brothers.

Huh. There you go. Did they work out like mad dogs for the role? You bet they had to. Yeah. Yeah. Huh. There you go.

Did they work out like mad dogs for the role? You bet they had to, yeah. Here's some other people who were considered for the role of Norman Osborn. I'm ready. I mean, Dr. Octoman. Great. John Travolta. Not really. Good.

Robert De Niro. That one's real. Wow, he's being... Wow. Bandied around. But for all sorts of things, yeah, okay. Sure. Sam Neill.

He would have been great. Yep, I would have liked Sam Neill. I thought I remember reading a rumour about that at the time, when the internet was in its early years. Yeah. David Duchovny, I guess? No, not unless he's using the

octopus tentacles to aid in his sex addiction. Sure. That's a sex addict's dream, really, isn't it? Absolutely. Tentacles. Liev Schreiber?

No, I don't see it. Sure. Ed Harris? Yes. Wait. No. All right. Yeah.

That's... Definitive. It's powerful stuff. It is, isn't it? Yeah. You know the alley where Peter Parker dumps his Spider-Man suit,

which is actually a reference to a Spider-Man comic called Spider-Man. I'm not Spider-Man anymore. Yeah, I remember that one. I can't remember what it's called, but whatever. That's supposed to be the same alley. Take a hike, Spider-Man. Yeah. That's supposed to be the same alley where he kisses MJ upside down.

Also, that upside down kissing scene, incredibly difficult to film. Yeah, yeah. Because water was pouring down Tobey Maguire's nose. Irritating. Yeah, and it nearly killed him. Huh. Not really. In the novelisation...

That's also the alleyway where Bruce Wayne's parents were killed. And also the alleyway where Captain America gets beat up. Yeah, and it's also the alleyway in Singing in the Rain where the guy's hanging off the lamppost. He's like, hey, sure is raining a lot. In the novelisation, there are a few changes, including, you know, the bit where Spider-Man takes his uniform back from Jonah Jameson. Yep.

He's listening to Jonah Jameson's monologue about how, if only Spider-Man was here, whatever. Also, Jonah Jameson is apparently secretly upset that Spider-Man is gone because he sells papers. Right. Like a mad dog. Also in the novelization, what kills Dr. Octopus is when he drowns his experiment. That sun that he created superheats the water, boiling him alive. He also goes blind by staring into the eye of the ball energy without his protective goggles,

and the tentacles claimed to be afraid that the end had come for them. Was it made clear in that movie that those tentacles were sentient? Yeah, I think they were artificially intelligent. Because he had the chip on his neck? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because he was worried the chip was going to take him over? Yeah, yeah. And then they did. No, the chip was to prevent. Oh, that's right, prevento. Prevento. Yeah, I think they were artificially intelligent. Because he had the chip on his neck. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because he was worried the chip was going to take him over. Yeah, yeah. And then they did.

No, the chip was to prevent. Oh, that's right. Prevento. Prevento. Yeah, yeah. Prevento chip. Do you reckon if David Duchovny had those sex arms, he wouldn't have the chip? He'd take that chip out.

Yeah, he'd be like... He'd be like... Anything goes, man. Hey, tentacles, do what you like. Oh. Michael Chabon, proposed script, had several major changes from the final product. Wait, Michael Chambon or Michael Chabon? Chabon.

C-H-A-B-O-N? Yeah. Yeah, he wrote The Amazing Adventures of Cavalier and Clay, which is sort of a coming-of-age novel about kids and superheroes and stuff. You should have saved that for what are we going to get today? Let's pretend that I'm thinking of that one.

Okay, sure. Let's do that. That's going to be mine. Done. Let's pretend that I'm thinking of that one. Okay, sure. Let's do that. That's going to be mine. Done. Doc Ock. I didn't know he did superhero movie punch-up. But his proposed script had several major changes that would have better explained certain plot points.

Doc Ock created the spider that bit Spider-Man. Too convenient. Don't like it. Sure. He's roughly the same age as Peter. Don't like it. Wants to go on the same age as Peter. Don't like it. Wants to go on a date with Mary Jane. I get that.

Do you get it even though you don't like Kirsten Dunst? I think that she was very cute in Spider-Man 1. Yep. And less so, less and less endearing as the series progressed. Fair point. A lot of people say that same thing. But that's not, I don't think that's a lot to do with her. I think that's a lot to do with how she was written.

Peter losing his powers is also not caused by lack of confidence. This one I do not like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But Ock giving him an inhibitor chip that slowly drains his power. No. How does that work? I don't know, exactly. Magic.

Hollywood magic. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is also the only Spider-Man film, and I'm not counting... It is the only Spider-Man film, correct. I'm not counting The Amazing Spider-Man 2 in this. The only Spider-Man film without a funeral scene at the end. Yeah. I told you they were a bit of a downer.

They sure are. I've also got here... Another superhero film that ends with a funeral at the end. Probably a lot, but not all... X-Men 3. Yeah, okay. But not all the X-Men films, right? come on spider-man creators superman where he kills that guy in the bar at the end of superman 2 oh he just punches a hole through his face yeah i've also got here that train bit was cool that's my own fact though out of that one that is a good fact yeah

love that train bit all right mason now this is where we normally maybe move on to the Spider-Man reboot. Uh-huh. But in actual fact, Mason, there was a Spider-Man movie that was proposed before Spider-Man rebooted. Bleh. Spider-Man 4? That's right, Mason. There was a Spider-Man 4 set to be due out 2011. Oh, so it's out now.

We should get it on DVD. That's right. Grab it on Blu-ray. Mm-hmm. They were going to do this one. It was going to be... HD DVD. You know it. It was going to be this one

and then they were going to do another two. Now, Tobey Maguire and I think I've mentioned this to this before, you two this before and Kirsten Dunst were going to get $30 million each for this. Wow. The budget was...

Sam Raimi wanted $300 million but was only going to be given $30 million. No, sorry. Can't be right. That's not right at all. Look, I want $300 million. Well, we'll give you this garbage can and a stick. Because that $30 million is going to Maguire.

And we'll give you a Spider-Man t-shirt. It's grey and it's got a picture of Spider-Man on it, but that is Tobey Maguire's costume. There was also talk at the time that Dylan Baker was going to step up to be the lizard, though producer Avi Arad was not cool with this. Uncool, man, he said in a statement. That's what he said. Because I think maybe he wasn't a big enough actor. That might have had something to do with it.

I thought he was great as the lizard, or the Kirk Connors. Yeah, yeah, exactly. But maybe he wasn't a big enough actor. That might have had something to do with it. I thought he was great as the Lizard or the Kirk Connors. Yeah, yeah, exactly. But maybe he wasn't the draw card. But I mean, that's weird. Like, Alfred... Nobody's going to Spider-Man 2 to see Alfred Molina. No. Right?

That's a really good point, Mason. And Thomas Hayden... Nobody's going to Spider-Man 3 for Thomas Hayden Church. I wasn't. No, but I mean, he was great in Sideways. He sure was. He was great as Ned in Ned and Stacey. That's why he was cast, Sideways.

To get a promotion, he needed a wife. To get a life, she needed Ned's apartment. Never watched it. No. What the hell, they up and got married. Did they? Yeah. And then, did it all work out in the end?

Or one of them murdered the other? I can't remember. The final season, clearly they decided the formula wasn't working, so they bought a cupcake shop. What? I don't know. That's what they should have done for Spider-Man 4. Yeah. And then they all bought

a cupcake shop. Rival cupcake shop. Oh! So yeah. Bruce Campbell. Parker versus Osborn. Bruce Campbell was said to have a more significant role

in the film as well. Which would have been nice because as you know we haven't talked about this but Bruce Campbell has a little cameo in each one. Spider-Man 1. He's the ring announcer

when Spider-Man beats up that wrestler who's now dead in real life. Yep. Spider-Man 2, he's the ring announcer when Spider-Man beats up that wrestler who's now dead in real life. Yep. Spider-Man 2, he stops Peter Parker from going into He's the snooty theatre usher.

Snooty theatre usher. But in another, I think in another version of the film, he webs the guy's foot to the floor and then catches the end of it. Oh, okay.

So, yeah. Spider-Man 3, he is the snooty waiter. Snooty waiter. But kind of less snooty because he's on board with Peter Parker. He's a helpful snooty waiter.

Helpful snooty waiter. John, no, sorry, let me because he's on board with Tina Parker he's a helpful snooty waiter helpful snooty waiter John no sorry let me start that again Ben Kingsley was going to be the vulture but then John Malkovich was cast

who as we mentioned was going to be Green Goblin so yeah any of those have been great John Malkovich would make a killer villain I get the sense that maybe John Malkovich

went back in time or he's going to in a few years to the 60s and he met Stan Lee and made such an impression that Stan Lee started creating villains that looked exactly like him. That explains a lot. Yes.

Goblin. Vulture. Tobey Maguire. John Malkovich Man. Yep. Lesser known. Anne Hathaway was also going to be up, was up for a while. I think she was actually cast.

Well, before that, she was also rumoured to be or might have been the Vultress, which was like a sidekick to the Vulture. Yeah, there is that. And maybe she became the Black Cat later in it, but that was... There was a female Vulture at one point in the comics, so that's probably it. Makes sense. Not an old lady.

It would be nice if there was the Vulture and then old lady Vulture, like his wife. And she's just always following him around. Just a real hag? Yeah, just a real hag, yeah. a real hag yeah sure but a nice hag yeah now this obviously fell through for a number of reasons but i've got the sam raimi quote here for what actually happened because people say that had to do with that he wanted to they wanted him to turn it out too quickly and he didn't agree with the 3d and a whole bunch of stuff but this is what he actually said ready for this yes i'm gonna read this and you know how this always goes yep Yep. Poorly. Yes.

Okay. Now, maybe this is your time. Doubt it. To shine. As long as there's no weird words in there. It was... Good start. Great. It really was the most amicable and undramatic of breakups, Sam Raimi said.

It was simply that we had a deadline, and I couldn't get the story to work on a level that I wanted it to work. He was very unhappy with Spider-Man 3, and he wanted to make Spider-Man 4 make it end on a high note and have it be the best Spider-Man of all. What do you think the chances of that are? Slim. Sure. To none.

I like Sam Raimi. No, actually, no. It is quite a good chance. If they gave him... All you have to do is beat two. Sure. That's exactly it. And you know what?

If they gave him more say, more power, I think he could have done that. Spider-Man 3 is crippled by way too much involvement. Too many cooks spoil the Spider-Man broth. What has Sam Raimi done since that? He did... Was it Great and Powerful? Oh, yeah.

Which I really enjoy. A lot of people don't like that movie, but I think it's really good. Yeah, yeah. I haven't gone back to it since I saw it, but it was good. Yeah, yeah. because I went in going this is apparently not very good

really enjoyed it love Zach Braff in it as well have you seen Zach Braff's new trailer the one he lives in yes no no no

because he's doing he's doing his follow up movie ah to um not Garden State but the one after Garden State no he's follow up he's only directed Garden State

oh it's his directorial follow up yeah yeah yeah okay cool looks very whimsical in case you were wondering. Did you think it wasn't going to be? Whimsical's probably not the word I would choose, kind of.

Big bunch of wank? Big bunch of wank. I like Garden State. Me too. I still like, I haven't watched in a while, but I still like Garden State. Sure, good, good. I don't care what anybody says. Do you care what I say? No. Basically, but Sam Raimi says he couldn't get the script together for Spider-Man 4

due to his own failings, and he said to Sony, look, I don't want to make a movie that's less than great. Well. Well. Well. Did you watch Drag Me to Hell as well? Yes. That was great.

I thought so. Parts of it. Unnecessary CGI in parts, though. Anyway. Kind of freaky movie, though. That could have been Vulture's wife. Could have got that woman. Yeah, that's right.

Yeah. So I think we shouldn't make this picture, he said. Go ahead with your reboot, which you freaky movie though. That could have been Vulture's wife. They could have got that woman. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. So I think we shouldn't make this picture. He said, go ahead with your reboot, which you've been planning anyway. So obviously the same. That sounds condescending. Go ahead with your little reboot. You smug pricks. Go ahead with your little spider skits.

That's fine. Enjoy that. Have fun with it. Yeah, yeah. So obviously at the time they were obviously weighing up their options. And it came out that they wanted to do kind of a school age kind of Spider-Man. So Tobey Maguire dropped out because he was 34 at the time they were obviously weighing up their options. And it came out that they wanted to do kind of a school-aged kind of Spider-Man. So Tobey Maguire dropped out because he was 34 at the time and whatever, whatever. Amy Pascal, who was a Sony chairman, said,

Look, thank you. Thank you for not wasting the studio's money. And I appreciate your candor. So basically they left on the best of terms. Because they said that's the best thing for the fans and the good name of Spider-Man and Sony. So I guess that's a nice way. If you're going to end, that's how you're going to do it. That's left the door open for Spider-Man the good name of Spider-Man and Sony. So I guess that's a nice way. If you're going to end,

that's how you're going to do it. That's left the door open for Spider-Man 4 in the future, I think. Absolutely. Go back to that, yeah. So yeah, there you go. Go back to that well, sure. Now, Mason,

what did you think of Spider-Man 4? I'll write 4. Oh, we didn't... Yeah, what do you think? Spider-Man 2, best or worst movie? Yeah, let's go with best movie ever. All right, man. Okay, good.

You've done it. Pretty much just for the taxi through the window sequence. Done. And, yeah, the train bit. I'm going to say also best movie ever. I'm also going to say for Spider-Man 4, I don't know because I haven't seen it. I'm going to say potentially best movie ever because it was probably going to be better than 2. Fair point.

Yep. All right, now, Mason. I know we're going to talk about The Amazing Spider-Man. Just to let people know that we're only going to talk about The Amazing Spider-Man just to let people know that there we're only going to talk about this briefly because we've done the commentary track on it as I've mentioned

on Bandcamp theweekofplanet.bandcamp.com you can line it up with The Amazing Spider-Man and watch it through because that's where Mason gives his first opinions on The Amazing Spider-Man

because famously well not famously some people know that you haven't seen that infamously no so yeah absolutely check that out I mean for those people who aren't going to download it well not famously some people know that you haven't seen that infamously no so yeah absolutely

check that out I mean for those people who aren't going to download it which is absolutely fine why would you do you want to give your quick thoughts

on Amazing Spider-Man 2 Amazing Spider-Man so many Spider-Man movies I know right they're wrapped up in my head like a web of crap hmm what do you got there

tweets that replies sure actually we've got one from here, from a gentleman whose name I can't pronounce. Great. N-T-A-B-U...

N-T-A-B-U-Y-E Paul. N-T-A-B-U-Y-E Paul? Sure. Can we still hope for a Weekly Planet podcast this week, guys? We're recording it right now! Get off our backs! No, no, it's coming. It'll be out soon.

It will be. If you're listening to this Then yes That has happened If not Then somehow This was destroyed That's right

What was your question? My question was What did you think Of the Amazing Spider-Man? It was good Yeah I'm surprised how much You liked it

Are we going to talk About Bandcamp? The commentary We'll talk about it Yeah I know We're talking about it Right now I know but I'm saying

In more detail Is this the promo bit? Are we promoing? Sure, yeah, yeah. Look, I thought that it starts out with a lot of promise. It seems like it's going against the tropes of a lot of superhero films. And then towards the end it sort of just falls into the superhero cliches. It's a real tropesicle.

It's a real tropesicle. Yeah, yeah, it's a real tropberg. Yeah, yeah. I think that movie has flashes of brilliance sort of but it suffers from also I feel like I've seen it a thousand times

yeah yeah and I think but I would say that the charm of the lead sort of carries it towards the end absolutely I think probably

and I think that's a lot to do with the most recent one as well Andrew Garfield and Emma Stone really carry that movie also I hate the costume it's awful yeah because I remember you saying

you saw pictures of it and you're like what are people complaining about or whatever what's happening and then that was the Amazing Spider-Man 2 costume the one

now I've seen one not good oh I thought you saw the one on the picture and then you were like it's okay then you saw it in motion and you went

yeah anyway so yeah if you want to go to theweeklyplanet.banking.com please check it out I thought also Mason seeing as we talked about Spider-Man 4 this week, maybe next week or in weeks to come,

we might do an episode on cancelled comic book movies. Yeah, okay. We can't do them all at once. We'll break it into sections. We'll maybe do, you know, there was a Superman Lives one and whatever we can talk about. But anyway. I was going to say, we worked pretty hard on this new commentary.

We did, Mason. By that, I mean a lot harder than I normally do. Yes. We had many trivias. I made notes. We made notes. We watched it before on this new commentary. We did, Mason. By that, I mean a lot harder than I normally do. Yes. Yeah, yeah. We had many trivias. I made notes. We made notes. We watched it before in preparation.

Yep. We worked out like mad dogs. I stood in front of a fire with a stick and I had a marshmallow on it. We really bonded. We sure did. But look, I just want to give a quick shout out to some people. A lot of people have already downloaded this without me even putting it on Twitter. How dare they?

Get your hands off it. Yeah. Do it. Mention it. No, I've got to apologise. We only get 200 free downloads for this a month. And so, basically, if the 200 are taken up already, it reverts to $1,

which is the lowest price you can put for something. That being said, you can still play it there for free. Please, if you do not want to donate, no pressure at all whatsoever. But I just want to give a quick shout-out to Jesse Wheeler, John Sibbins, TL Elston, Joel Acklin,

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Michael Davies, Bren Griffith gave $10. Scott Foreman and Justin Hayden, just had the baby, official baby of this podcast. Yeah, absolutely.

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Thanks. Absolutely. I work out every day like a mad dog. Wow. Thanks, everybody. That's pretty amazing. Yeah. Mason. Yes. Great dick. Thanks. Absolutely. I work out every day like a mad dog. Wow, thanks, everybody. That's pretty amazing. Yeah, so really, thank you very much, everybody who's donated. I hate to break it to Eddie, though. Our highest donation is $120.

So if anyone wants to beat that. Is it really? No. Just trying to swindle the listeners. Ah, sneaky. You're a sneaky character. Again, we appreciate you listening to it, even if you don't donate. And also, it's an experience good, so you don't know if it's any good until you download it.

So maybe play it to it first, see what it's like, and then if you want to donate. And also, yeah, and if you want to have it on your computer, as I think I've said before, just go to your temporary internet files, copy it out, put it on your desktop. Who's going to know? Me. Do you know? No. You get spyware.

I do. Also, Trevor Onyango, he did it like in a running commentary on twitter while it was happening yeah yeah yeah you can go to his band camp and give him money yeah i don't know sure i don't think he has one is that how that works yeah yeah okay now um we also got an email from somebody whose name i haven't got here. Man, I'm going to look it up just quickly. Okay. Mason. Yes.

Matthew Engerbritsen. Oh, yeah. Engerbritsen. He sent us an email, right? Yes, I'm ready. A very lovely email. A number of things that I want to bring up here. Also, got a few listeners claiming to be the youngest listener, including James, who says he's 13.

I don't know if he is or not. That's true. People can say anything on the internet. He could catfish us. Yeah. Don't catfish us, James. We don't want to get catfished. That's true. People can say anything on the internet. He could catfish us. Yeah. Don't catfish us, James. We don't want to get catfished. We're very, very vulnerable

to catfishing, man. So, Blake Batters would be our previous younger listener and now has to kill him Highlander style. Yep, absolutely. And steal his youth.

The beheading is the only way to do this. That's exactly it. Yeah. But basically, he says, next time you guys should do a commentary

for the Watchmen Ultimate Cut and he says which is the wrong time it's 215 minutes that's the one where they work in the animated Black

Black Freighter which is cool I've never watched them together in the same movie I've watched them separately have you watched we might have brought this up have you watched

the Watchmen Emotion comic no I said Emotion comic there but just Motion comic there are a lot of Emotion I'd imagine

but it's the one guy doing all the voices including the girl voice what's that like weird I said emotion comic there, but just motion comic. There are a lot of emotions. I'd imagine. But it's the one guy doing all the voices, including the girl voice. What's that like? Weird. Watch it, though. Great. Yep. But he says, you should do the Watchmen Ultimate Cut.

That's if you guys have the balls. That's in all caps. If not, then maybe you should do one for X-Men First Class for the upcoming X-Men Day of the Future Past. Which I think we should do. Or should we do the first X-Menmen movie maybe we'll throw that open to the people yeah absolutely i would like to yeah yeah i'm not sure because we might struggle to get that out before the movie but we'll see how we go yeah you know we enjoy doing them sort of yeah absolutely also worst times in life certainly yeah yeah also like a shout out uh shout out his girlfriend bridget who would watch the amazing spider-man commentary with him.

Her favourite part was when Nick Mason said the Peter Parkouring pun. And I hate to fucking... Hate to correct Mason, but I may have said that, or maybe I didn't. I didn't check. Great. People confuse us, which is not surprising. Sure.

Because we both sound and look the same. That's right. Another guy emailed this week, and he said that you Could possibly be Me and you And that I'm a figment of your imagination And you're an incredible That's really

Hang on Why couldn't I be a figment of your imagination Because you exist on Twitter There's a picture of you Ah Because I'm real funny about my That's a good point

My personal life Yeah yeah that's true You know Yeah you're a bit Cuts close to my chest You're a bit And I move my hand like That's right That's how I You know. Yeah, you're a bit, you're a bit. Cuts close to my chest. You're a bit, and I move my hand like, That's right.

That's how I am in real life though, man. Yeah. Because I'm, you know, I hate everybody. Yeah, you got a lot of enemies. That's right. You also managed to attach. I might steal your gold.

That's right. I might steal your pot of gold. You managed to, you mentioned the no prize for a continuity error fix. Uh-huh, yeah. He sent you a picture of the no prize.

What? There it is. If you don't know what that is, you can check that out on the thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So there you a picture of the no prize. What? There it is. If you don't know what that is, you can check that out on the thing. So there you go. Official no prize. I'm going to give the guy a shout out. I just did. You're going to say shout out?

Shout out! Again, I'm sorry I can't shout out everybody every week because you know, all that kind of thing that I mentioned. But yeah, we do get a lot of emails now, Mason. But anyway, moving along. Joseph Lisk. Remember how our normal guy who does the theme songs? Yes.

You're familiar with him? The Brute. The Brute. Gabriel Brute. He's doing a theme song for What We Read and What We're Going to Read, which is now the section we're going to do. But Joseph Lisk got in first. Yeah.

And when the Brute does his theme song, we'll have a theme song showdown. Yeah, absolutely. But until then... And what we're going to do... What we'll do is we'll put one on my ipad and one on your ipad yeah and we'll listen to them together and the winner becomes the official theme song to what you read and what you're going to read and the other one would just snap it over a knee is that really going to happen yeah okay good you want to hear the theme song yes you haven't heard this yet.

I'm ready. It incorporates my theme song from the other week, which I sung. I don't know if you remember. I'm doing the theme. I'm doing the theme. What are we reading today? That's great. He's really nailed it, hasn't he?

He has nailed that. Yeah, yeah. He's nailed it. It's exactly as ramshackle as what we do, but with a delightful shade of professionalism over the top. So the Brute's... The musical ability we lack. That's it.

So the Brute, you know, maybe he's got a bit of competition. I don't know. We'll see how that goes. Thank you, Joseph. We really appreciate that. So now that we've got that theme song out of the way, what a great theme song. Absolutely.

What are you reading? What are you going to read? Well, Mason, I've got a couple of things to mention this week. Bandit Incorporated, a guy on YouTube, he does these kind of videos on how to make it good whatever,

right? And he did one on the Avengers Age of Ultron. Uh-huh. How to make a good Avengers Age of Ultron. Yeah. It's many, many episodes long. Well, I'm in episode six,

a brief, brief cameo. You should check that out, Mason, if you want to or don't. It's up to you. He's an Australian guy as well. If you love Australians, love Australia. I do love Australia.

You know it. Yeah. But also I want to shout out, not shout out, I want to, I know I mentioned this earlier, Superior, as far as a comic that people should read.

Yeah, yeah. I think everybody should check out Superior. It's standalone. You don't need to know anything, anything else about comics. I've given it to people, um,

who don't really like comics comics or know anything about comics, and they find it great. Because you don't need to know any continuity and whatever to make sense. It helps to know a little bit about Superman and this and that. But I would definitely recommend Mark Miller's Superior. There we go. What we read in Mason. Well, what we're going to read.

Well, what I done read in the past. Good. And what I done recommend people done read. Yes. We mentioned it earlier, The Amazing Adventures of Cavalier and Clay. Tell me about that. Well, it's sort of a coming-of-age novel, and it's about these two cousins. They're Jewish cousins, and they live in New York.

They live in New York, New York style, in Brooklyn. Sure. And they sort of, one's an artist, and one's a storyteller, and they sort of become... Is this and one's a storyteller and they sort of become is this based on the two guys who created Superman yeah I think so

yeah they're two young Jewish guys yeah I think so yeah I think it combines elements of them and maybe like Stanley and Joe Kirby

or you know Jack Kirby yeah yeah that's embarrassing for me and they sort of become you know sort of major major players

not players major figures in sort of the comic book world from you know the very beginning to the golden age and it's sort of gotcha their trials and tribulations and their friendship and all that sort of thing great it's a delightful novel so it's more based in the real world would you say yes there's no there's no actual superheroes well then i don't care yeah it's it's weird i'm cutting this out yeah it's it's weird when they um any any there are a few superhero novels yeah you ever read one no i've been oh maybe some novelizations of some right right there's uh they because they're always quite weird because superheroes are such a visual medium absolutely uh there was there was a book many years ago pictures pictures go on there's a there was a novel many years ago that i read that's actually quite a good example of the genre

it's called the superlative man and it's sort of about a it's been a long time but it's uh it's about a private detective who's attempting to solve a murder i think in the world in this city where they're it's protected by the superlative man who's sort of this background figure. And he sort of has to learn how to become a man in the shadow of this superior being. Right. It's a really good read. Okay.

Can't remember who it's by or if that's even the plot, but I remember enjoying it a lot. Is it the name of it? It's called The Superlative Man, yeah. All right then. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we're going to check that out, aren't we? Yeah, check them all out. All right.

That's what we're reading for this week. Cue theme song. I'm doing the theme. What are we reading today? I wonder if I put that in then. Who knows? Now, Mason, as you know, my brother's getting married. Herbert Thomas, the superlative man.

There we go. Yep. My brother's getting married, my younger brother. Uh-huh superlative man. There we go. Done. Yep. My brother's getting married. My younger brother. Marriage is in the air. Love is abound. You familiar with marriage? I'm aware of the concept, sure.

Sure. Is he going to trump you in an attempt to get married first? You better not. I'll stab that guy right in his head. But basically, he wants to do a thing at the wedding. I am a grimsman, as my other brother, as is some friends of his. And you know, you've probably seen on Facebook where the dudes are standing in a row and each of them have a superhero emblem under their shirt and they open it.

Sure. You know? It's a reflection of the taste in pop culture things and whatever. Yeah. We're all picking a superhero... And the bride always loves that. Yes. Don't you think that that's only a good idea for the first person who ever does it?

Well, yeah. Why don't you tell my brother that right a good idea for the first person who ever does it? Well, yeah. Why don't you tell my brother that right now? Because he's listening. Great. You're an idiot. No, you're right. Or you're an idiot. Who's to say what I believe?

It's me saying it. You're an idiot. So, basically, I'm going to have Superman logo. Not because he reflects my personality in any way, but I think he's my favourite superhero. Uh-huh. My other brother is having Batman. Loves Batman. Someone else is having Winter Soldier. Yeah, alright. Okay. Someone else is having... Because he's my favourite superhero. Uh-huh. My other brother is having Batman. Loves Batman. Someone else is having

Winter Soldier. Yeah, alright. Okay. Someone else is having Because he's an assassin. Yes. Yeah. That's right.

I think, you know, Ed is having Winter Soldier. Really? Winter Soldier? Sure. Because he's a Russian spy. No. No?

He's not? No. Okay. My brother's having Ant-Man. Really? What's the Ant-Man logo about? Is it just an ant? Sure.

He doesn't really have a logo. No, no. And the other one, the most logical man from the group, who's also named James, is going to Professor Exit. And the way they're going

to do this, and I know this will blow your mind, they're going to have a wheelchair just for that photo and he's going to wear a bald cap. No.

You don't like it? Not at all. Why not? It insults both people with a disability and bald men, who are considered people with a disability to me. Okay, gotcha. Fair point.

So you're saying, don't do that. No. Maybe just have the X-Men logo underneath the shirt. X-Men logo, nice suit. Yep. Have him sit down. That's all you need. Don't hire a wheelchair for this.

Also, you'll have to wedding theme the wheelchair. You'll have to spray it white. Ridiculous. Good bunting on it. So, you're in? Yeah, I'm in. Okay, sure. Cool.

But basically, though, there's another person that needs a logo. And he wanted to ask if I could ask the listeners, what's the logo? He wants a superhero that they think people would recommend. Not necessarily a major one that they could wear it has to be male not necessarily I say yeah but maybe

what's with you and your gender binary mate come on I don't know I suggest it may be like a daredevil or I don't know something like that what do you reckon

hang on what is his he just wants to throw it open I think this last person doesn't have a preference for for anything what's his personality like do you know Jeff

yes I do know Jeff? Yes. I do know Jeff. What? Plays music? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, yeah. Ah, boy. So any musician-based superheroes?

Just that guy in the Starhawks with the guitar. Sure. The cowboy one. There's also a bit in The Amazing Spider-Man 2 where Electro plays the Incy Wincy spider theme. Okay, that'll do it. Yeah, okay. That's real.

Fantastic. By the way, I didn't make that up. Okay, that'll do it. Yeah, okay. That's real. Fantastic. By the way, I didn't make that up. Spoiler alert. Not really. Not at all. Give me a name of a musical superhero.

There are none. Dazzler. Dazzler. Oh, there you go. Just more disco themed though. Well, close enough, isn't it? That'll do.

The Pied Piper. I'm going to say Pied Piper. Done. Yeah, good. Done and done and done. So if you want to Twitter us on that at MrSundayMovies

at WeeklyPlanetPod, at WikipediaBrown, but you probably don't care, so you don't want those, do you? No, I totally care. So yeah, help a brother out, specifically my brother, because if I said it another way,

that would probably be racist. Right? Yep, definitely. Moving along, though, just before we go, Josh Zingerman has a listener question. The Zingerman! Zingerman!

I'm trying to incorporate a listener question every week Mason to encourage conversation I guess between us sure we don't have a lot of stuff to say to each other

do we no I'm going to get out my limo as soon as this is done I'm going to take off he says always have fascination with the concept of

arch enemies in literature classic examples being Superman, Lex Luthor Professor X and Magneto Batman and Joker, Sherlock Holmes and Moriarty, etc. Yep.

He wants to know our ultimate opponent. So if... You can imagine, Mason, you had an arch enemy specific to you. Yep. And I'm not talking about

an existing one, like, because Lex Luthor would kill you immediately, right? No, we've debated this. I think we could get... He's arrogant. He's too arrogant.

I think we could get around him Like he'd meet you in his office And you'd hit him with a brick Yeah exactly Yeah he's not expecting that Is he Go low tech That's what I say

Yeah yeah Don't expect him to go high tech Go low tech Sure absolutely Yeah So this person doesn't have to exist In real life But if they did exist

What would your arch nemesis be like He'd probably be a guy Who's really motivated You know He gets up early in the morning And he, you know, has a full breakfast. Sure. Maybe he does a run before. Has a run.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. He gets a lot of things done simultaneously. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He can multitask. Maybe at lunch he runs down to the store and gets all the women at work donuts. He's the work office favourite.

Yeah, he is. Wouldn't you say? Yeah, absolutely. He does the same job as you, but he's way better. Maybe his name's Keith. Keith. Yeah.

But he ain't brick-proof, is he? Bang! That's how I deal with that problem. So a super motivated guy who works in your vicinity? Or you know him, he's in a circle of friends? I'm going to say... Maybe he's a circle of friends i'm gonna say maybe he's a

friend of a friend that you sit next to at a wedding yes definitely yeah don't you hate that they they you go to a wedding and they pair you up with some idiot they think you'll get along with yeah this is my friend he's in a blur and immediately i just blank yeah he's like you like him he's really funny will i like him because he's really funny well i'd be hate him instantly because yeah he's not that funny no maybe he is that funny? Well, I'd hate him instantly because, yeah. He's not that funny. No, maybe he is that funny and now I feel threatened or he's not that funny

and I'm like, you think I'm funny like that guy? Really? Now I hate two people, him and you. Sure. And maybe he's like, he's the funniest guy

in that girl's office who invited you to the wedding. Right, right. You know what I mean? Yep. He's always wearing a crazy t-shirt and on crazy hair day, maybe he sprays his hair pink or something. Sure. girl's office who invited you to the wedding. You know what I mean? He's always wearing a crazy t-shirt. Yeah.

And on crazy hair day, maybe he sprays his hair pink or something. Sure. What a dickhead. My arch nemesis. It's all your personal vendettas. That's your arch nemesis. You bloody know it. The combined personalities of all my personal vendettas.

So that would, you know, make things easier for me. Yeah. If they were all one person, I could just. Hit them with a brick. It's all over. over yeah then suddenly i'm friendly with everybody else but my personal hatred unless you've got anything to add to your your nemesis you're super motivated yeah how many sit-ups can he do well more than me so one maybe he's training for a marathon yeah he's always training for a marathon yeah Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, yeah. Great. Yeah. I hate this guy. Yep. So basically, for me, it's a similar kind of thing.

It's a guy I work with, right? And this has happened to me many times. And he really likes me, and I only kind of like him. Right. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And every time you go to work, he's always there. And when you go home from work, sometimes he messages you or calls you, and it's about

nothing. What are you up to? Nothing. Wasn't that thing a good thing that happened at work today? Not really. You know what? This is my time now that you're impeding on. Maybe he wants to start running with you after work.

I like to run alone. Leave me alone. I don't want to run with you. Right? What else? Let me think. You have a lunch break. I like the lunch break alone.

He wants the lunch break with me all the time and whatever, and we have to sit together. Do you know what my least favorite thing in the world is? What? My least favorite thing. Well, one, bigotry, certainly. Sure. Actually, that's number two.

That's number three. Okay, hang on. Let me think. That's number two. Number three is being punched in the face. Number one is being interrupted while I'm eating. You hate that, do you? I hate it so much.

The further along in the meal I am, the more annoying it gets. If I've got one bite of a sandwich left and the doorbell rings and it's somebody doing anything, really, just existing, they're going to get it. Do you answer it? I try not to. Yeah, I don't answer my door a lot of the time. No, you don't. Because if I'm expecting someone, I'm just like, not getting it. Yeah, yeah. It's probably not for me or it is. Who cares? Yeah. Yeah, anybody like that. I try going to catch the train to work that day,

but he's waiting for me in his car because he's nice enough to give me a lift. That's the other thing. He's a nice enough guy where I can't be like, listen, fuck off. Do you know what I mean? Because you've got to work with this guy every day. Do you know what I mean? That is my nemesis. Not someone who completely hates me.

Someone who likes me way too much. I understand. And I'm sure I've done that to somebody as well. I'm sure I'm that guy in somebody's life. I'm probably that guy in your life. Yeah. No, you're right. So that's my nemesis.

Yeah, I understand. But then again, hit him with a brick. Hit him with a brick. What's he going to do? Nothing. Yeah, yeah. He ain't brick proof. That's it.

So I guess that's the show for this week, Mason. Fantastic. Quick shout out to Gabe Brute for the theme song. And also, Joseph Lisk. Yeah, absolutely. Two people to shout out this week. And For the theme song And also Joseph Lisk Two people to shout out this week Our music makers If you have any suggestions for the show Please email in

Weeklyplanetpod at gmail, twitter, facebook At wikipediabrown For my best friend Nick Mason Hello This is awkward I'm going to go after this At MrSundayMovies for me. I gained a lot of followers this week because of the YouTube channel thing.

So people have flocked. Wow. Well, not flocked. I got like maybe 20. Well, that's pretty good. Pretty good, you know. If you have suggestions for shows. Those robber neckers.

That's it. Just want to see a disaster unfold. That's it. If you want to tweet at the YouTube dev or at YouTube or YT creators. Just want to open your window and start screaming YouTube. YouTube. YouTube or YT creators. Just want to open your window and start screaming YouTube. YouTube! That would be great.

I don't know how effective it is because I've heard nothing so far as I mentioned. But yeah, that would be great. It's annoying that it's been over the holiday period. Yeah, it's been real annoying. Yeah, yeah. Could have got a lot of work done. Didn't. So yeah, that's all right.

Is what it is, Mason. It'll lead to bigger and better things or worse things. know yeah it's certainly a thing that happens if you know anybody who works for gmail or youtube yeah can you ask them what's the deal yeah yeah absolutely yeah yeah do you know anyone no you're dead to me sorry i thought we were friends oh you got anything to say shout out before we go no so yeah that's the show have a great week everybody

band camp the thing or whatever yeah do what you like yeah get out there eat some of them leftover eggs you know

what oh yeah it's Easter it was Easter or if you had a really big breakfast and you had leftover eggs they're about to expire

get them eggs eat them eggs eat them eggs hashtag eat them eggs eat them eggs hashtag eat them eggs that's our new that's our new slogan eat them eggs

everybody it's a metaphor that's it yeah for eating eggs no for embracing life oh

okay cool and eating eggs yeah alright thanks everyone bye bonus track yeah which Spider-Man theme song from the movies do you want to sing together Bye Bye Bye Bye Bye Bye Bye Bye Bye Bye Bye Bye Bye Bye Bye Bye Bye Bye Bye Bye Bye Bye Bye Bye Bye Bye Bye Bye Bye Bonus track Which Spider-Man theme song

from the movies do you want to sing together? Well there's only one isn't there? Well you can also do Vindicated by the Dashboard Confessionals I have no idea what that is Let me tell you something

about that song Mason Okay Man what a bonus track this is They said we'll only do the theme song if you let us watch a preview screening of the amazing

of Spider-Man 2 and they watched it and then the lead singer of that band who i don't know came up that song in 10 minutes and it's about hope spinning on a string and slow spinning redemption and you're winding in and out of the city or whatever do you want to do that one spider-man spider-man does whatever a spider can. Spinning web, Hey, what's up? Dirty crime. Punching guys. Hit somebody with a brick, cause you're Spider-Man.

Web a guy to a building, hit him with another building. Cause you're Spider-Man. Inexplicably strong. Great work. Thank you. I thought you got a Chad Kroger in. Nah, done it already. That's true. Go back. Episode one, I believe. Ah, one of them. Yeah, yeah. Two, three. Buy for reals, though. great work thank you I thought you got a Chad Kroger nah done it already go back

go back episode one I believe ah one of them yeah yeah two three bye for reals though bye