The Weekly Planet - 302 Best & Worst Stallone Movies & New Suicide Squad Cast

Episode Date: September 16, 2019

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You want to save the world? Go on. You think you're better than the world? Red hot comic book movie news Shooting up your butt hole than the world? Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday. With me as always is my co-host, Nick Mason. Yes. Welcome to the podcast, Mason, as always. It's a big week for news and movie news. Oh, I thought, because you've got this sort of low-pitched tone here,

I thought you were going to ask me about my process. What is your process? Show up. Wow. Come in this door. But on the car ride in, you're furiously taking notes, you're listening. Absolutely, yeah. That's right.

To new media. I have so many screens in my car and I just, every direction. It's like Minority Report. Absolutely. It's like Minority Report. Absolutely. It's like Minority Report, exactly. But just with a bunch of iPads and laptops. Yeah, that's right. They're all just stacked up and they're sliding around.

Let's hit one at random and like a clip from YouTube plays. Fantastic. Well, while you were sliding around screens in your car, did you see the cast for the Suicide Squad that was revealed? I did see the cast for the Suicide Squad. Big cast. Huge cast. He's returning.

Jai Courtney's back. Yes. Not Jai Courtney. Yeah, he is. He's revealed. I did see the cast for the Suicide Squad. Big cast. Huge cast. Who's returning? Jai Korn is back. Yes. Not Jai Korn. Yeah, he is. He is back. I got the list here, gentlemen. First of all, the logo is the original logo

from the comic book. It's the original comic book font, yeah. I liked the old gunmetal grey slash then neon one that they transitioned into. Too bad.

No, I actually like this one a lot more. Does this mean a new direction for the Suicide Squad or does it just mean the same? We're giving you the old logo so you know. Yeah, I think it mean a new direction for the Suicide Squad, or does it just mean the same? We're giving you the old logo so you know. Yeah, I think it's a new direction.

Anyway, the first name up here is David Dashmalchian, and if you're like, who's that, and did you say that right? I didn't. And he's the guy from The Dark Knight that Batman interrogates. He's one of the Joker acolytes. He's also that foreign guy in Ant-Man who does the foreign. He's on the team of... Oh, yeah, he's the tech guy. He's also that foreign guy in Ant-Man who does the foreign, he's on the team of. Oh, yeah, he's the tech guy.

I think he's got the Baba Yaga story in the second one. That's right, yes. He's good. And as we found out before the show, younger than both of us somehow. Right. How did that happen? We're just so youthfully looking. But he was in The Dark Knight.

I'm also applying a lot of moisturiser as I arrive in the car. Yeah, of course, yeah. Because you've got to slip between screens as well. Absolutely, that's right. John Cena, which I don't think was confirmed before. Jai Courtney. Joaquin Cozzio. Nathan Fillion.

Joel Kinnaman's back is a Rickless flag. Wait, who's Nathan Fillion going to be? All these people, we don't know. We don't know. There's no full... Let's do some rampant speculation. Definitely. I reckon Nathan Fillion is Max Lord. Okay.

Yeah, that makes sense. For no reason. For no reason. As good as any. Yeah. Off the top of my head, I reckon that's who he is. Maxwell Lord. I reckon he's one of the characters they kill off.

I reckon he's like a. Oh, he's a decoy. Yeah. Yeah, right. Mei Ling NG. Not sure how to pronounce that. I think so. Very good.

Flula Borg. Sean Gunn, of course. Juan Diego Boto. Juan Diego Samaranch. Very good. Flula Borg, Sean Gunn, of course. Juan Diego Botto. Juan Diego Samaranch. Very good. From the Olympic Committee or whatever. I remember him. Oh, that's Juan Antonio Samaranch.

The winner is Sidney. That's what he did. Is that guy, right? Yeah. Storm Reid, Pete Davidson. Davidson. Is he from SNL? Yeah, I believe so.

Is he one of the ones that sucks? Flip a coin, Mason. Oh, yeah. Okay, right. I think he's the no, he's the one who was dating Ariana Grande and now he's dating

one from Underworld, Kate Beckinsale. Good for him. Yeah. Taika Waititi. Yeah. Alice Bragg. Steve Agee.

Tina Shee Kajese. I'm not good at this. You're so good at this. Daniela. You know what I picture? I picture a listener who's gone, oh, New suicide squad i'll just bring that up yeah and they're trying to read it while you mispronounce everything it's like mispronunciation bingo because that's how it's set up and you're like and they're like no no peter capaldi

jennifer holland viola davis idris Elba, Margot Robbie and Michael Rooker. Got through it. There's quite a few James Gunn good luck charms in there. There definitely is. Sean Gunn, Steve Agee, Michael Rooker. Michael Rooker. Even like Nathan Fillion. Yeah, that's true. He shows up in Guardians.

He's the one that puts the tree fingers up his nose. Oh, yeah, that's right. He also posted this out with don't get too attached. So it seems like at least half of these will probably be killed. The Suicide Squad, the original movie, lacked a lot of things, Mason. But one of the things that really lacked was killing a bunch of the Suicide Squad, which is the point of the Suicide Squad. Yeah, they killed a lot of anonymous soldiers, didn't they?

And Slipknot. They killed Slipknot, yes. I was going to say Boomerang Boy, but that was the other one. He didn't get killed. So I'd imagine this is like a soft reboot. It doesn't matter if you have to see. Because they're not really committing to what this is exactly. No, that's true.

But I think the characters who are returning are going to be playing the same. Yeah, I think so. We might also see like this might be a movie that is set before or after a mission or like we see an initial mission in progress right at the start and we have a Captain Boomerang and we have a Harley Quinn or what have you still in the team as some additional, maybe a Nathan Fillion or Steve Agee's just getting riddled with bullets and then we move on to the main thrust of the movie or something like that. And more people are riddled with bullets. Yeah. And then we move on to the main thrust of the movie or something like that.

And more people are riddled with bullets. Yes. I wonder if, so I think Joel Kinnaman will be like another Rick Flag type, maybe. He won't be Rick Flag again. No, he can't be Rick Flag again, but like, you know. Did he die in the last one? Rick Flag? Yes.

No. So why can't he be Rick Flag again? Nathan Fillion wasn't Rick Flag. Oh. I'm saying he's going to be another Rick Flag. Oh, you said Joel Kinnaman. Did I? You said the wrong thing, if anything.

Right. Mason. So, yeah, I think Nathan Fillion. Go to the tape. Yeah, I probably did say the wrong thing. I do that all the time, but I listen back. I'm like, I said the well wrong thing there. Do you fix it in post?

No. If I can edit it out and it makes sense, I will, because otherwise I'll just get messages forever. But otherwise I just leave it. You should fix it in post so I look insane. I cannot be bothered, Mason. You'd prefer my own actions make me look insane. Exactly, that's right. It would be disingenuous to the art of podcasting.

I think we should bring up a list of potential Suicide Squad members and then we can be like, who do we think is who here? Let's do it. Look, I'm sure we've been sent half a dozen or so from people. Potential castings, yeah. What about Peter Capaldi? We talked about this last week, and I believe we decided on Doctor Doom.

We sure did. There was speculation that Michael Rooker was King Shark. Oh, voice of King Shark, absolutely, that would work, yeah. James Gunn has come out and said he's not going to announce for a while who's who, but some of the speculation has been on point and some of it hasn't. No, Jared Leto, though, interesting. That's true, that would work, yeah. James Gunn has come out and said he's not going to announce for a while who's who, but some of the speculation has been on point and some of it hasn't. No Jared Leto, though. That's true, that is interesting, yeah. But James Gunn is not a fan of him, he's mentioned before.

Could even have a World War II-style Suicide Squad. That'd be great. Yeah. So maybe like a flashback group and then you've got your modern day. Yeah, maybe Capaldi's from the original Suicide Squad. Idris Elba, Bronze Tiger, I think a lot of people have thrown that out of the ring. Some people have also said as a Deadshot recast, but I don't think they'll do that.

No. And Deathstroke. Some people said Deathstroke recast. Okay, sure. Polka Dot Man has been mentioned. Okay. I would go Nathan Fillion as Peacemaker. That's a good choice.

John Cena's an interesting choice as well. Yeah. Also Peacemaker. He could be any kind of muscle. Anyway, this is going to... We could go round and round in circles. I was going. Anyway, this is going to, we could go round and round in circles. I was going to say, this is going to take a long time.

So maybe we'll, let's just move it along, shall we? But people got their lists and I'm sure people do. Send them through. Do it for one week and then never again. Okay, good.

It's terrific. Mason, sources confirm at the Hollywood Reporter that HBO is near to a deal for a pilot for a prequel for Game of Thrones set 300 years before the events of the last series that track the beginnings and the end of House Targaryen. Oh my God, it's going to be called Game of Thrones. Everybody in this you learn to like will die. Just like regular Game of Thrones, except it's 300 years ago. So there's no chance they're still alive in the modern era.

Except for the guy who lives in the tree. But I mean, that's probably the past anyway. That's true. Or is this an alien planet? So we don't really know the lifespan of anybody in this series. Or how big they are. Could be Star Wars, where they're all 900 feet tall. That's right.

We just don't know. We just don't know. Because they've got nothing to compare them to. That's right. Nothing Earth-style. Look, I'm not going to lie, I've definitely cooled on anything Game of Thrones related and not super interested. But what about you? How's Targaryen prequel?

Zero interest. Yeah, me too. I mean, you know. I mean, we know what happens. Exactly. It's going to be a good looking show. Do you think there'll be any dragons? Because, you know, by the end of the Targaryen reign, all the dragons were kind of wiped out.

They kind of inbred them and kept them. Oh, yeah. Right, right, right. Okay. I think it's at the tail end of that maybe. Yeah, maybe this is. Yeah, this, right, right, right. Okay. The tail end of that, maybe? Yeah, this might be dragons aplenty then. Yeah. So this is going to be all dragons.

They've talked about in the books about the timeline of when the last dragon was and all that kind of thing. And I know they've mentioned in the movies, so I don't know if that lines up exactly, but they're probably going to do some form of dragons. Does Game of Thrones have different dragons, different types of dragons, like your dungeons and dragons where there's like frost dragons and acid dragons?

That's a very good question. I don't actually know. Because these ones are all just fire, fire, fire, lame. You think they're lame? You think some of them are cool and rad? There's a couple of scenes where they're all wearing baseball caps but they are firmly pointed forwards. So that's not cool, is it? Absolutely

not. Yes. Go Sox! That's what I say. You say go Sox? Yes. Good. You've also arbitrarily picked a team from America. What did you pick?

Packers, I think. That's a good one too. Yeah. Go Sox, obviously. Yeah, I was going to say, obviously. I mean, I don't know what's going to happen when the Sox battle the Packers, two teams from different sporting franchises. Oh, my God. I can't wait. I can't wait either. How about this? Can you wait for this? Andy Muschietti, who, two teams from different sporting franchises. Oh, my God.

I can't wait. I can't wait either. How about this? Can you wait for this? Andy Muschietti, who, of course, directed the It films and the upcoming The Flash movie, says that a seven-hour It supercut with additional material is on the way, including some stuff that he's going to shoot for it specifically. Oh.

Hmm. There you go. What's he doing this on his off hours? Yes, he is. Are they paying him for this I don't think so I don't even think they're going to

actually let him release it I think he's just doing it he's just gone rogue mate oh my god yeah

I'm interested in this the new machete cut very good wasn't that a Star Wars thing yeah the machete cut machete order yeah

so I like the idea of seeing more of this because I didn't I liked two you liked it less than me, but I think there's some stuff there you could definitely flesh out. I think you could flesh it out. I can't imagine him getting. But again, this is the same news as the Game of Thrones news, I feel.

In a sense, it's like, we know what the end is going to be. Yeah, it's done. It's already done. But I don't mind an extended release. Like, for example, Lord of the Rings is an excellent extended release. For example, Batman v Superman. People say it's slightly better that's right because it doesn't have superman just flying off after that bomb goes off yeah and leaves everybody just in ruins he stays for a little bit and helps okay yeah sweeps up yeah super sweeps up could they uh i guess they could

extend sort of the native american i would like to see more of that isn't there when you're saying at one point there's like isn't there like a super grisly scene where Pennywise, he demands a baby? Yeah, and he needs a baby. Yeah, I've got a video on it recently. Cool. Called Deleted Scenes or something. We also did a video together about, and Matt edited it,

on how they're probably going to franchise this off into prequels and sequels and all that anyway. So I think this is probably just testing the grounds for more of that, I'd imagine also. But I love an extended release, Mason, sometimes. Do you? Maybe the Suicide Squad got an extended release. When was the last time you watched an extended release?

That's a good question. Oh, how about this? Steve Agee, the penguin. I don't even know what he looks like. Steve Agee. I know he's a comedian. He's a big man. Is he as big as a penguin?

He's in the Guardians. He's the guy with the big sort of Coke bottle goggles. Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah. But remember the Arkham version of him and he's got like the Coke bottle in the eye? Definitely. You could Mad Hatter him as well.

You could Mad Hatter him. Yeah, okay. Not bad, Mason. Not bad. That's a thought for you. That's an original thought. I didn't realize he was in Guardians of the Galaxy, but he is. He's mates with Tazerface or whatever.

He's on that team. Yeah, okay, excellent. Good choice, Mason. Thank you. Way to bring him back. Thank you. And around again. I'll do one every ten minutes for this podcast.

I love it. I know you have thoughts on this, Mason, because you're a big fan of this franchise. Harbinger. You know that movie? Oh, the Valiant comics. Okay, sure. That's right. That movie has left Sony for Paramount, complicating the Valiant comics. Okay, sure. That's right. That movie has left Sony for Paramount,

complicating the Valiant universe which Sony was creating, starting with Bloodshot starring Vin Diesel. So you thought this franchise was off and running. Did I? You were so excited. You said, I cannot wait for this series of interconnected characters that I vaguely remember. Those are your exact words.

That does sound like something I would say. So, okay, sure. I like the Valiant universe from what I know of it. When are they doing a Turok? I didn't even know that one. That's Valiant, yeah. Oh, there you go. Was that post or pre the game?

Like did the game come out and then they buy it? Or that was always been? No, it was always. So I think it was. So Turok was like, you know, in the 60s or something like that. There was Turok and there was like Gold Key Comics or something like that, one of those companies that's not around anymore. Do I have to read one rock to understand Turok?

Oh, yeah. Thank you, Mason. He's back. That's right, folks. He was gone for a long time. We all worried about it. Everybody sent me DMs and emails. Has James lost it?

Is he gone for good? It's been weeks and months. Some people say since I got married, like I've lost my edge. That's right. It's true because you're always wondering what the missus is thinking about what you say on this podcast. You used to say some real edgy stuff, but now you're like, hmm, I'm firmly on the fence now all the time.

Hmm, that's what you said. But I'm just here to say he's back. It's good to be back. Because Turok, like two like t-o-o what you did is you imagined the two rock was in fact a sequel yes to a movie called one rock it's comic yep yeah thanks mason no problem anyway i'm just gonna pull this string and all the confetti's gonna fall from the studio how did i not notice that that's right so so so it's a 60s comic. Oh yeah, along with like

Magnus Robot Fighter and all those ones. All those classics. And then I think Valiant brought it in and then they were purchased by Acclaim Comics. Oh no,

sorry, they were purchased by Acclaim, the video game company. And then they were like, okay, let's video game everything. Yep. And then Acclaim

went out of business, I think. Okay. Or it was bought by somebody. Yeah, probably eaten up by EA or whatever. Yeah. I think they were releasing a Turok on the Switch or something. Okay.

Okay, all right. But they are releasing Jedi Outcast on the Switch, which I'm super excited for. Wouldn't it be kind of tricky for me to understand the controls of Turok if I haven't played the first Turok? That's a really good question. Isn't it though? I'll let you know, obviously. He's back, everybody.

It's when both of us are back. Some people said I wouldn't be back, but I am back. You sent me a bunch of emails. People are independently sending us emails asking if the other person's okay. Anyway, so this might not be a shared universe, or they'll share it like Sony does sometimes. Yeah. With Spider-Man or whatever.

Yes. Mason, got a rumor coming over from We Got This Covered. Speaking of sharing properties. Isn't that a bad site? We Got This Covered. Yeah. I don't know. They're all bad sites, aren't they?

Okay, good. Yes. It's all rampant speculation. Not that we're any better, are we? I think one of the, I think, look, all I'm saying is I think We Got This Covered is one of those ones where if you share too many of their stories to your group, it gets deleted. It's one of those ones where it's unverified. But I'm ready to listen. I'm ready to believe you.

Apparently the two parties of Sony and Marvel are still talking and the current deal on the table is apparently Disney gets 30% of Spider-Man. However, the agreement does ask that Venom be part of the MCU. It's a real predicament that they've put in. Isn't it, though? Where's the harm, though? I don't think there's any harm in it. I mean, Venom's about as bad as the worst MCU movie, I would say. Sure.

And it's PG, so you can fit it in there. I think they did it PG, so they could fold it in eventually. Well, yeah, I mean, I don't think... On the hopes to, at least. Yeah, I think... Well, what I'm saying is I think there's nothing inherently wrong with Venom as a character and Tom Hardy's interpretation of Venom. Like, the movie itself is quite bad,

but I think if you just transplanted that character... It wouldn't really matter. No, yeah. I completely agree. So anyway, that continues the rampant speculation that is what's going on with Spider-Man. Sony Marvel Spider-Man. Because I know one of the Russo brothers was like,

Sony don't know what they're doing. Why would they try and do this without Kevin Feige? What the fuck's happening? You can't embarrass yourself, Sony. So we'll see, won't we? And the other Russo brother was like, he's back. He's having opinions. Before he was like, before they finished Endgame,

he was like, we'll see how this goes. don't even mind it's whatever you want that's probably true though where you can once you because they've done the movie they're out yeah you're gonna be like i could say whatever now that's who cares yeah uh kevin smith on his fat man beyond podcast which is a follow-up to fat man on batman obviously he had the heart attack lost a lot of weight changed the name it's like bat Batman Beyond Mason. He's back. Oh my goodness. But basically he said that he'd heard that the Batman. As they pull a string and just a huge cloud of weed. Just a clump.

He loves it. Just falls down. You see how fit that guy is? He's hiking mountains on Twitter and stuff. Good for him. On his Instagram and that. He's doing really well. Is he still wearing his old clothes?

I bet he is. The giant jackets. I think he's got some slimmer stuff happening. Yeah, he's lost so much weight. He's doing really well. Is he still wearing his old clothes? I bet he is, the giant jacket. I think he's got some slimmer stuff happening. Yeah, he's lost so much weight. He's doing really well. But anyway, saying that Batman is based on the long Halloween. Because, you know, they're talking about a detective-style murder mystery,

which is what the long Halloween is. It's like a sort of... Yeah, for sure. And it goes through the rogues gallery of Batman interrogating everybody. It's such a great story. Yeah, and again, that would be a good way to reach. And it's not just Batman the first one again, whatever it's called. One that they always do. Batman 1966.

Yeah, that one. Batman year one. Which I feel like everything is like, it's like a reinterpretation of Batman. Shut up. Exactly, shut up. We don't need to see him fight, you know, whoever is responsible for his training again who turns out to be a bad guy.

And then like one guy in a sort of a costume. Yeah, exactly. We want just, just have him tear through his rugs. Just show us who, who he's dealing with this time around. It always feels like it, and a lot of these are quite good, but you know, it often, it always feels like it's a step back again. Yeah. You know, we don't like doing the Spider-Man origin.

Exactly. Just give us, he's Batman. We know, we know what he does. Figure it out. Yeah. You know, we don't- It's like doing the Spider-Man origin. Exactly. Just give us- He's Batman, we know. We know what he does. We figured it out. Yeah. So there you go. So The Long Halloween, I would love that. It's got, it's the great sequel as well, Dark Victory, which I think is also really good.

Yeah. So if this one is good, straight on to the next one. Yeah. There's, you know, I know all the story beats of Long Halloween. I won't spoil them here, but people should definitely go and read them. So if they can follow, you know, that kind of roughly, then great and good and fun. Yes. And they'll probably have to recast the Joker, I believe.

Or unless they're going with the one that they're doing. If he's even in it. Or they could fold in Joaquin Phoenix. Apparently they're not doing that. They're very adamant that that's a different universe, more extreme than any of us could possibly imagine. It's coming up, though. Sure is.

Two or three weeks? Can't wait. Yeah, me neither. Okay. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret, the other a mission to reveal it

before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+. We're back to We Got This Covered, Mason, your favourite website. Okay, alright. Alright, rampant speculation. Here we go. I'm going to embrace it, is what I'm going to do. There's a Darth Vader series in development, they're saying.

Their sources, which have apparently been good sources before they've confirmed some previous things it's we got this covered.com that's right our previous sources they say that james l jones uh is going to be involved and hayden christiansen may be there if they decide to use flash backingtons so okay yeah what do you think of that darth vader series series like a disney plus you know yeah right okay uh good i think uh but also i've had a lot of darth vader and everything forever you sure have yeah but also good i think what if it's just like a fairly loose or even a very close adaptation of just the darth vader comic book fantastic okay i would love that i mean you know and then why not you know it's a cheap

test bed for yeah for cross media something something synergy whatever media disintegration thank you exactly so you know maybe that's what maybe that's what maybe the series that you've been enjoying that you've been holding dear to your heart for months and months it's true is just a a test module for this larger unit wouldn't wouldn't surprise me. This larger entertainment unit. I think that's what they did for the Obi-Wan stuff. They tested the grounds with the comics. So, yeah, and you know what? They probably look at the numbers and go,

these sell better than most other Star Wars comics. People love Darth Vader for some reason still. It's been 40 years, but people love his weird, shiny black head. He didn't stop them blowing up that planet. That's what they love about him. I love that about him too. And he was redeemed in the end because he was a good bloke in the end, wasn't he? Not really.

He sucks. He sucks as a human being. He should have kicked. Don't you think you should have just nudged him into that lava? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Just get it done. That's right.

Get it done, mate. Yeah. What did he think? That this guy was going to still bring balance to the force even though he's like just come out of that lava? I think he just thought he was going to die. I think that's what he did. Yeah, he was like, he's probably, I mean, he's still screaming at me,

but I'm just going to. Yeah, I'll just let, maybe the stuff, as I. Maybe the tide will come in. Yeah, the lava tide. And wash him away. Yeah. You see what I'm, like, what, what, was, was, was Obi-Wan still under the impression that Anakin would bring balance to the force at this point?

Surely not. Because he was like, you were the chosen one. Yeah, no. He thinks it's Luke later on. Okay, right. So he could have killed him with no consequences. He could have just even decapitated him. That's what I'm talking about.

He doesn't have to kill him. That would have killed him. When I said killed him, I meant... Yeah, I mean, he would have come back with a head on spider legs or whatever. That's right, yeah. Yeah. Good stuff. I agree. Here's a broomer that's just landed. uh-huh yeah good stuff no i agree uh he's a

broomer that's just it's just landed this is did you say broomer yeah a broomer okay check the tape everybody i definitely said broomer broom kid is back i'm not feeling 100 mason i've got a bit of a cold i'm a bit uh i'm a bit under the weather i get every now and then i get like a like a kid's illness because my kid brings him back from from like his child care daycare kindergarten whatever and they're not enough to like he brings them back from the from the far east in a little but uh he's like smell this ah why yeah but every once in a while he's just like he's like dad can i have some more chips and you're like you can't have any chips it's you'll ruin your dinner and he's like well then you should know that i poisoned you several hours ago and i have the antidote here

now can i have some chips wouldn't put it past it he's crafty he's pretty cutting uh so yeah but but they don't put these diseases that he passes to me they don't put me down because they're like kids disease yeah enough to be like god. It's just a little bit inconvenient. Yeah. Anyway, Robert Downey Jr. is apparently, he's rumoured to be in the Black Widow movie. Yeah, right.

He's had one movie off. He's nice and rested and refreshed. Yep. And he's back. The rumour has it. The rumour has it, yeah. I think it was Deadline. I might double check that. Do we think it's,

could it be Robert Downey Jr. or it could just be a guy with a Tony Stark beard and the sunglasses getting out of a limousine? In the background, quite blurry. They've got his CGI head. They can put that on anybody. They did it for Iron Man 3, didn't they? Do you think he signed off on that?

I feel Robert Downey Jr. would be the kind of guy. I don't know. I feel like he might be the kind of guy where they're like, listen, we'll give you $50 million for the next 10 years. We'll just paste your face into some stuff. 100%, yeah. And you can50 million for the next 10 years. We'll just paste your face into some stuff. Oh, 100%, yeah. And, you know, you can sign off on it before or whatever, yeah. No, I think if he's – I don't think he really wanted to –

like he didn't seem like he was super keen to like stop doing it. So this is a way for him to be dead in the universe but still kind of pop up. Yeah. I also wonder about Robert Downey Jr. sort of just generally because like before this, he did some, you know, he was kind of like a Johnny Depp in the sense that-

Kiss, kiss, bang, bang. Exactly. But he did like, you know, he wasn't like a guy who's just in it for the money

and he's just kind of- Yeah. So like, you know, he did Chaplin and stuff like that? Yeah, he won an Oscar for that. Yeah.

And so I wonder like, does he do the Marvel movies, A, because they're a big paycheck and it's fun, or, but does he do it because he's like, I want to take something like a big genre superhero-y dumb thing and then inject some real acting into it?

I think that's probably, yeah, definitely part of it. And if you look at where it starts, he wasn't to know that Iron Man would have ended in endgame. Well, that's true, yeah. He would have got a pretty decent payday, but then off the back of that, you know, then his pay has increased exponentially because they signed a weird deal with him, whatever, which they haven't made the mistake of for the other

cast members but uh yeah so i don't i don't think he signed on thinking like yeah this is going to be the next this is going to be the biggest thing in the world so i wonder if you do like a 10 10 year franchise is he is he out there like what like is he is he going to be like well i've got to do more movies now. Like, I've got to branch out and do different stuff now. Or is he like, well, I did 10 years of this and it was fun. Yeah, but also he's like proving himself in other roles multiple times over the decades. He did Air America with Mel Gibson.

That's true. So, you know. He did Due Date with Zach Galifianakis. Not a good movie. No. That was the Joker director, actually. Oh, yeah, it was too. That was Todd Phillips, yeah. He did the one where his dad was Robert Duvall

and he killed someone in an accident and Robert Duvall's a judge and he's like, I don't approve of you, but I need your help, Robert Downey Jr. It's called Whoopsie Daisy. Apparently it's fine. Okay, cool. Yeah, and he's also doing another Sherlock, of course. Oh, okay, right.

Sherlock and Holmes 3. What else have we got here? So, yeah, anyway, he'll probably come back. And speaking of Marvel casting, Mason, Hayley Steinfeld is apparently going to be Kate Bishop in the Hawkeye TV series. Oh, second walker. That's fun. Yeah, I like that.

Cool, cool. Good casting. She's good in True Grit. She's great. And probably other things that I haven't seen. Bumble Bee. Oh, yeah, I've seen that. Edge of 17.

Okay, right. She's great. She's terrific. So, good choice. And give her the Hawkeye haircut, obviously. Of course, yeah. Speaking of haircuts, you've shown me this just before the show. Oh, yeah, that's terrific. So good choice. And give her the Hawkeye haircut, obviously. Of course, yeah. Speaking of haircuts, you've shown me this just before the show. Oh, yeah, that's right.

I should have done it live, in fairness. Why? What's happening in the world, Mason? Well, look, we love to talk haircuts on this show. Haircuts and wigs. That's right. And speaking of real hair, the real deal. The realest hair you've ever seen.

Whatever the actor's name is, Steve from Stranger Things, who has probably some of the greatest hair on movies or TV. Recent memory. Not a wig, real hair. Real hair, real man. Whatever his name is. Joe Keery. Thank you.

I did not know that. I'm sure I've read it, but I couldn't recall it. Anyway, we've seen a side-by-side photo. He's cut his hair. What's going on? Did he cut his own hair? Maybe he cut his own hair. Yeah.

I just don't know. Maybe. Because I was like, what has he done? Is he giving himself like a mullet or something? And you're like, just look at it. You were like, has he done the Hawkeye hair? Just look at it. You can't explain it. he done the Hawkeye hair? Just look at it. You can't explain it.

No. It's sort of a bowl cut. Yeah. It's sort of like an oasis cut. Yeah, it's like that, you remember that Caesar cut that everybody had? But it's long. And it's thick.

It's got these thick nubbins on it. I don't like it. But he's grown a little muster. You said it's for a role. I reckon it must be for a role. But he's just out there. He's just like it's for a role. I reckon it must be for a role. But he's just out there. He's just like, hey, I'm at some sort of movie premiere with his hair. Just look it back, Steve.

Look, as someone who has and continues to have questionable hair at the best of times, he's gone too far. He's gone too far with this. I hope it's for a role. Yeah. I hope it's for his sake and our sake. Yes. And the listener's sake that it's a joke. And our sake Yes And the listeners sake

That it's a joke Because what I'm saying He's got a moustache as well So maybe he's in some sort of role Where he's You know sometimes people are like I can pull this off Yeah right

Very specific people Can pull off a moustache Well because But also his Stranger Things co-star Dacre Montgomery Yeah Has a moustache from time to time He's looking good

Maybe he's like I could be like Dacre can do it Yeah Also I always thought his name Was Dacre Montgomery Dacre of course Is the Australian For a panting and maybe he's like, I could be like, I think he can do it. Also, I always thought his name was Dacker Montgomery. Dacker, of course, is the Australian.

For a panting. I figured maybe he was called Dacker Montgomery for his high school penchant for dacking people. They call him Dacker because all the kids he dacked in high school, you know? Yeah. I don't think that's why. I think it's just his name. I think it's Dacker. It's like Acre, but for dacking.

Yeah, for sure. He's done so many acres of dacking in his time. He got the Guinness World Record for the number of dackings he did. How many dacks per acre? He did six acres of dacking in a row. Yeah. DPA. Yeah.

Dacres per acre. Yeah. Okay. Anyway, that's Air Talk for the week. Boy, is it. Last bit of news. Face Off is getting a reboot in development of whoever owns Face Off. Of course, made famous for the movie Face Off,

John Travolta and Nicolas Cage. They're taking each other's faces off. They're putting their faces on other people's bodies. Little known fact about that movie also, they also changed the physical shape of the... Oh, that's right. They put the love handles on Nicolas Cage. Yeah, that's right. They put the love handles on... Yeah, that's right.

There's some lines of dialogue about sucking some fat out. He's like, oh, come on. I'm John Travolta, the actor. Somehow that's yuckier than taking somebody's face off and putting it on a different person. Yeah. I don't think they took the fat out of one and put it in the other. Oh, you think they just redistributed it?

I think it's just like fillers. Oh, okay, right. Okay, they just had a drum of fat yeah like cheesecake or whatever they had the uh the the doctor's office it's all it backs up into a cheesecake factory that's right exactly it's just run off okay i've got i've got an idea for a title what do you think of this i'm ready uh two face two fury off that's pretty good what do do you think? Sequel. But am I going to understand it if I haven't seen one face, one Fury on?

Look, they'll probably be saying... I'm back everyone. You were worried since that last joke. But I'm back. Like John Wick, people keep asking if I'm back, but I am in fact back. He's back. They should do a sequel, right? Instead, just be like, it's the face-off universe.

Who cares, right? Really? Okay. So Travolta and Nicolas Cage? No, don't. Nicolas Cage's character is dead. Okay. Well, do you think, so are you saying that this is now,

the first instance of this for crime fighting was so successful that now all policing in the future, in the modern modern day it's just people's faces being so i think that when we had this 20 year old program and we had to scrap it because it got too confusing all right all right okay it was very confusing we're gonna this time we're not gonna mess it up because we're gonna put gps tracking chips in each of the people so we definitely know who's who but what they didn't count on was russian hackers and it's just a scene of like a dude and then he's hacked them and then in each of the people, so we definitely know who's who. But what they didn't count on was Russian hackers. And then it's just a scene of like a dude and a... And then he's hacked them.

And then it's like, no, we don't know. Who could have thought of this? Who could have conceived that the chips would be hacked? The very vulnerable chips. People are saying, who do you get? Oh, people are saying. People are saying. Okay.

People are also saying, should you reboot this? It's a ridiculous movie and who cares right and as with all reboots and sequels yeah i like the first one it's fun uh-huh it still exists it's not going to ruin it you know i mean they they made a new point break and yeah it didn't ruin anything uh-huh yeah except for the careers of everybody who was in the new point that's true yeah so who would you do you get some people said hugh jackman and Ryan Reynolds. What about Ryan Reynolds, Ryan Gosling? I reckon... What about Chris Pine?

Yes. And Chris... No, what's another guy who looks exactly like Chris Pine? Chris Evans. Okay, yeah, good. Well, I mean, maybe what you want to do is you want two guys who look kind of similar and they're differentiated by their acting. Oh, I see what you're saying.

I think one person has to be slightly fatter than the other, so they have to be like, we had to get some fat. And then they can do lots of jokes about being fat in the press conference or whatever. What about Tom Hardy, Chris Pine, just like that movie? Yeah, exactly. This means war. I was literally thinking that one, yeah. Yeah.

Oh, what about this lady face off? Do you swap a lady's face with a man's face? No, I think that would be too much. Just about this lady face off do you swap a lady's face with a man's face no I think that would be too much just full lady's face off even in the advanced 29 technology

that has evolved from yeah 1998 face off technology or whatever it was I think that might be too advanced for face off technology yeah

yeah I see what you're saying maybe they have been doing for 20 years and they're like we're finally ready you know what we're doing Drew Barrymore and David Harbour that's what we're doing. Drew Barrymore and David Harbour.

That's what we're doing. Nice. Yeah, perfect. Just a giant Drew Barrymore. Yeah. I love it. Just charging through the streets, swatting cars out of the way. Yeah, okay.

I would say that. You would see that? Oh, no. I would absolutely see that. Okay. It's a face-off sequel, but the technology has gone into a nightmarish direction. And when you swap the faces, who knows what's going to happen. Yeah, exactly.

There's just massive size discrepancies. I love it. Just a giant club arm. They inject the fat. They're like, well, we've got to make this guy a little bit bigger, but then he's just got just a giant club. It's Resident Evil. It's the video game, Resident Evil.

And then one guy's like, didn't we used to do this for infiltration or something? No, we're going to bust up that crack den or whatever. Just send in the David Harbour Drew Barrymore monster just to tear the building down. Okay. I don't know. Whatever actors you want.

Yeah, whatever. Whoever's hot right now. Whoever's hot right now. Just whoever's just been in the last 10 movies. You're like, boy, this person's been in 10 movies, and I don't know if I really like them, honestly. Yeah. Maybe sequel to Gemini Man.

Swap young Will Smith's face. Old Will Smith's face, yeah. What do you think about that? I love it. Great. Exciting news for the inter... I'll cut all that out. No, leave that in.

Well, look, we're not getting paid for this one, so let's just keep it loose. Let's keep it fun. Let's keep it light, for God's sakes. Let's keep it light, all right? So we've got our charity campaign for this week, this year, which is basically a project... This week is contained within this year.

Yeah, it's all part of it, to grow a seaweed farm to reduce CO2 emissions. The idea is to grow this belt from Australia all the way to the US. Ours is going to be funding a portion of that. So far, we've raised over $35,000, which is incredible. We're aiming for $50,000. We have, you and me. Me and you together. That's right.

We're out there. We're rattling cans on the side of the street. No, this is donations from people who have... We're like Santas on the street, but we're covered in seaweed. We're big seaweed beards. Like, take the money, just get away from my car and my family. We're so salty. So they've actually reached a milestone in that, the $350,000,

which the project was after, to take it to the next step. So a big part of that, or a part of that, is obviously coming from the listeners. You, the listener. Donating to us. We have a little picture in the corner of the studio and it says, the listener. And it's you. Yeah, that's right.

Yeah. We've got an exact picture of you. Of you, the listener. Yeah, we found it. Yeah. So that's really exciting. So it's moving ahead in a big bad way, Mason. Like I said, reducing CO2 emissions, you can use it as an alternate food source.

It's better than feeding cattle grain, the methane consumption and the – you know what I'm talking about, Mason? I know. The science. The science behind it. You're talking about the science. As the Amazon burns down, this seaweed farm will grow, hopefully, and then overtake it, and then people will visit the seaweed farm.

I mean, it would be nice if the Amazon stopped burning, obviously. Look, that's out of our hands, isn't it? It sure is. It's up to you, the listener. The list, come on. We're pointing at you again. And this time you're looking a bit sheepish because you haven't done a single darn thing about the Amazon.

We have multiple photos of you. We point to the one that's appropriate. So the idea is we're going to keep this guy. We're going to hit $50,000, and, of course, every dollar that is donated is doubled. So if we hit 50, we're going to 100. If we're already at 35, obviously that means whatever the double of that is. 45, it seems about right, isn't it, Mason?

Let's ask you, the listener. What do you think? Oh, you've got a calculator. He's got a TI-82. Or her. Yes. You, the listener. You, the listener.

So also, if you donate, there's an option to ask a question where there's a bunch of bonus stuff that we're going to put out, including our Q&A that we do for our charity campaign every year. Claire's organising some prizes like she does every year from some of the sponsors. Please continue to donate. It's going really well. We're really happy with the project and we're really grateful that the people are contributing to this. I know for a lot of this stuff like you know with the global warming and the state of the galaxy Mason specifically our planet it's like what do you do? What's a specific one thing you can do to kind of make a difference maybe? And this might be a good option.

I think so too. So yeah, it's linked below. Please donate. Any amount of money helps. And you get a bunch of stuff. And you, the listener, we're looking at you. We can see you've got a big smile on your face. Because you've done something good.

That's right. But if you haven't, it's the other photo. That's right. The calculator one. Yeah, that's right. What a nerd. Doesn't donate to things. On with the show? Yes. Oh my God's right. What a nerd. Doesn't donate to things. Are we the show?

Yes. Oh my God, Mason. We're getting another Rambo. That's true. We are. I re-watched all the Rambo movies. We've got a Caravan of Garbage coming up on our favorite Rambo movie on Tuesday. Is it your favorite Rambo movie though?

No. In any sense of the word? No. It's the worst one. It's definitely the worst one, yeah. It's like a bad version of two. It's three. It's three, yeah. the word, no. That's the worst one. It's definitely the worst one, yeah. It's like a bad version of two. It's three. It's three, yeah.

Yes, it is, yeah. But we thought this would be an excellent opportunity as we do for all, well, we're working through all the classic action stars, their filmographies. That's true, yeah. We've done Keanu Reeves. We did it before the Keanu recescence, didn't we? Absolutely we did, yeah.

And then we did Jason Statham. Jason Statham. Yep. And obviously we ranked the Jason Statham performance roles on Stathamocity. Or did we rank them on Kiara Noah Kianes also? Oh, we did. Well, look, I think it's time to do both of those things. Okay.

So I thought maybe for Stallone we could, we'll add those obviously, and we'll go through his filmography. We could do Stally On or Stally Off might be a good one. Oh, yeah, that's pretty good. Okay, I like it, yep. But of course, if you've got another suggestion, people always go, I can't believe you didn't do this very specific thing.

We missed it. We're sorry, all right? I didn't give it any thought. I'm not sorry. I'm back and I'm not sorry. Wow. He'll say anything. I'll say anything.

So you're familiar with the early days of Stallone's career. I also found out he was an extra in MASH, the movie. Was he? Yeah. Have you seen a still or anything? I've seen an image of it. It could be anyone. But apparently he wasn't.

Apparently he doesn't admit a lot to being an extra in a lot of stuff that he was in the past. The ego's taken over. Yeah. What do you think of Stallone generally is my first question. I've been turned around on him because because i think his worth work ethic is incredible he's been he's been doing this for decades like 40 years now well that's true just and he's writing and directing and being muscular and yep changing his face it's almost like face off the way that his face has shifted into like a cinder block boy isn't it though yeah uh no i i

definitely admire his work you think there's in his attic there's a there's a painting of a cinder block boy isn't it though yeah uh no i i definitely admire his work you think there's in his attic there's a there's a painting of a cinder block that's slowly being chipped away well he retains forever useful and like a cinder block uh but to start off his um filmography uh we're gonna have to get a little bit racy so here we go ahead for this uh it's nothing too saucy but you got some kids in the car you probably want to skip this bit because he of course kicked off his film career at in the car. You probably want to skip this bit because he, of course, kicked off his film career in The Party at Kitty and Studs, which was a softcore pornography film.

So it wasn't like – it wasn't a – What do you see? Do you see stuff going in? That's what I'm saying. You don't see that. I've never seen it. Apparently it's terrible. I don't want to see it. Yeah, right.

But it's – and it was also then re-released as The Italian Stallion after the... Is he the star of it or is he just... He is. Okay, right. So apparently... So a big payday for him. Well, he got $200 for two days work. And he said it was either do that or rob somebody

because he'd lost... He was out of his apartment. He was homeless for seven days at the time. So he was just like, you know, I understand that. You've got to eat. I totally get it. So apparently the owners of the party at Kitty and Studs offered to sell him the rights for the film for about $100,000

in order to prevent its re-release. But the actor said he wouldn't buy it for two bucks. So it was just like, fuck you. Yeah, right. The blackmail. So that's pretty, I like that. I like that kind of attitude. Where are they now?

Yeah. Sequels. Countless sequels that he's involved in. That's right. I love it. I think I've seen like maybe still images of it. It sort of looks like it's like weird early days Stallone. So it's kind of like it could be anyone.

Yeah, right. I don't want to. He's grown into his face is what you're saying. He certainly has. He's grown into his cinderblock face. Yeah. So there you bloody go. Well, there you go. And like, so he's got this career that before rocky was like he did

death race 2000 i always assumed that the italian stallion was his nickname was from that but no but no it was no they went back and they they changed it so the original death race he's in he's like one of the minor players in that okay uh he was in coach he did some tv stuff he's in kojak like an episode of Kojak. He was in the Lords of Flatbush. Okay. Which was, that was the one that he was with Richard Gere

where he kicked Richard Gere out of his car for eating like a greasy chicken. And he's like, if you eat that, I've got the story here. I'm not going to read through it exactly. Oh,

that's not a scene in the Lords of Flatbush. No, no, no. Richard Gere was on and he got kicked off because apparently him and Stallone didn't get along and they're still enemies to this day.

Because of some sort of chicken. Well, it's complicated. Let me just break it down. Okay, maybe I'll just read it. How about we don't talk about the filmography of Sylvester Stallone? Let's, in fact, just break down this situation where Richard Gere and Sylvester Stallone are mortal enemies to this day because of something from the 70s or 80s,

whatever this was, in the 70s about a greasy chicken. I'm just going to read this, all right? It's just easier. This isester Stallone are mortal enemies to this day because of something from the 70s or 80s, whatever this was. 70s, yeah. The 70s about a greasy chicken. I'm just going to read this, all right? It's just easier. This is from Stallone. We never hit it off. He would strut around in an oversized motorcycle jacket like he was the baddest knight at the

round table. One day during an improv, he grabbed me. We were simulating a fight scene and just got a little carried away. I told him in a gentle fashion to lighten up, but he was completely in character and impossible to deal with. So that's where we're starting. Okay, right, right, right, right. So gear stayed in character.

He was too method. Exactly. He couldn't switch gears. He couldn't bring it down. Oh, I get it. First of all, I like the idea that Sylvester Stallone, tough guy, is like, well, this guy, he's swanning around, he's a fake tough guy, whatever.

Anyway, we're in the middle of an improv, and I wanted to space jump to the beauty salon, but he wouldn't let me. He stayed in character as this guy. Come on, Stallone. Then we were rehearsing at Cody Island and it was lunchtime. He kept blocking me. So he decided to take a break and the only

place that was warm was the back seat of a Toyota. I was eating a hot dog. Just a random one? I guess so. Just a burnt out Toyota. I was eating a hot dog. Just a random one? That's right. I guess so. Just a burnt out Toyota. I was eating a hot dog and he climbs in with half a chicken covered in mustard

with grease nearly dripping out of the aluminium wrapper and I said, that thing's going to drip all over the place and he said, don't worry about it. This is Richard Gere.

Richard Gere, yeah. I said. This is wildly out of character for the Richard Gere I know. A man I don't know at all. I don't know anything about his personal life. Mothman prophecies.

I've seen maybe two movies he's in a decade ago. That one about dancing he did. No, I haven't seen that. You haven't seen Gigolo, American Gigolo or whatever? Oh, I haven't seen American Gigolo. I haven't seen that one. And he said, Sloat said, if this gets on my pants, you're going to know about it.

And he proceeds to bite into the chicken and a small greasy river of mustard lands on my thigh. I elbowed him in the side of the head and basically pushed him out of the car. The director had to make a choice. One of us had to go and one of us had to stay. Richard was given his walking papers and to this day he seriously dislikes me. Now, are you familiar with the Richard Gere gerbil story? Oh, look, I've heard things.

Do you think Stallone started that rumour? Well, apparently Stallone started that rumour. So, again, we're trying to keep it PG here on the weekly planet, obviously. There's one F word episode maybe. But basically there is a rumor that Richard Gere – I'm saving all my F words up. Just for the X-rated episode. That's right, yeah.

For the episode 400. I thought about it. People said, why didn't you do 300, the movie 300 for episode 300? We should do the movie 300 for the episode 400. Absolutely, we should. But Richard Gere was apparently admitted to hospital because he had a gerbil, like a hamster, whatever you call it from whatever country.

In his butt. Yeah. And it's a rumour. It's not true, apparently, by all accounts, but it's just been this persisted thing. I don't even know how big a gerbil is, to be honest. Like hamster size. Oh, okay, right.

Okay, I can picture that. If he broke its bones, you could probably... Oh, it was dead, okay. I don't even know how big a gerbil is to be honest Like hamster size Oh okay right You could Okay I can picture that If you broke it's bones You could probably Oh it was dead okay I don't I always pictured a live gerbil I mean it probably went in alive

Sure So But uh People say that Stallone started that rumour Okay I don't know whether that's true So there you go Anyway then he wrote Rocky

Sure And we've talked about the Rocky movies before. Yeah. They're good for the most part. Exactly. Initially, it was a story about one man beating up another man for getting mustard on his leg. And then he just kept rewriting and rewriting, and eventually it was the movie Rocky. Exactly.

I would have liked to have seen the original. Just wash your pants, Sylvester Stallone. But if you had a white pants and you get mustard on it. I guess it was the 70s. It could have been a white pant. Exactly. It was definitely a white pant. So, yeah, because if he was wearing.

And a traditional yellow American mustard, I would imagine. Who's eating chicken with mustard on it? Like on the chicken? Like a whole chicken? Like half a chicken or whatever? Yeah. Who's putting condiments on a whole chicken? That is wild stuff.

Keeping his protein up, you know what I mean? He's got a very busy after work life. Clearly. yeah. Like I said, let's not go into Rocky because we did a Rocky episode. And we're going to be coming back for more Rocky episodes. But there's some movies after there which, you know, Fist or Paradise Alley. No. Nighthawks.

No. He's the star of all these. Yeah. Or in them at the very least. And then Escape to Victory, which is the very first of his Stallone Breaks Out of a Prison series of movies. Oh my God, there's been so many.

So many. We should rank the Stallone movies that we haven't seen. Can you give me the fist? F.I.S.T. The Richard Gere story. That is so compelling as a title. I.S.T. The Richard Gere story. That is so compelling as a title. I like that. Okay, that's number one of the three that I don't recognise.

Yeah, right. Okay, what's the next one? Paradise Alley. Don't like it. Yep. Then it's Rocky 2. Yep. And then Nighthawks.

I like the idea of Nighthawks. Yeah. It sounds kind of like, I mean, Paradise,, it's Paradise, whatever the other one, Paradise Alley, whatever it was. It's after, fresh from a devastating bomb attack in London, an international terrorist arrived in New York. Is this Nighthawks? Remains intent.

Yeah, Nighthawks. Yeah. Upon wreaking further havoc. I thought it would be kind of like a cool New York sexy diner movie. I think this is when he was like, is this guy Pacino? What's he doing? Because initially people were like, is this guy the new Pacino, Rob Redford, that kind of guy.

And then he started kind of that way, and then he really just pivoted into just hardcore action man, as opposed to softcore pornography man. Exactly. Well, look, apropos of nothing, I'm putting fist, F.I.S.T. right at the top there, because that's just a title alone. What does it stand for? Don't look it up. I don't want to F.I.S.T. Right up the top there. Because that's just a title alone. What does it stand for? Don't look it up. I don't want to know.

Okay. No, actually, tell me what it stands for. I've got it right here, Mason. Okay. This might affect the rankings, obviously. A rebellious Cleveland warehouse worker rides through the ranks of the Trucking Industry Union to become the union president,

but his organised crime links are his eventual downfall. But what does Fist stand for? It's probably something about trucking. T stands for truck, I would imagine. Yes. become the union president, but his organised crime links are his eventual downfall. But what does Fist stand for? It's probably something about trucking. T stands for truck, I would imagine. Yes. And Sylvester plays Johnny Kovac. Good names. He's always good with names, I feel.

Jason Cobra. Exactly. Johnny Breakout of Prison. Yeah. Rocky Punchface. Yep. Judge Jim and Dredd. Judge Jim and Dredd. Judge Jim and Dredd.

Of course, Escape to Victory was a- I feel that we would, any of these, if we haven't seen them- Yeah. They're not. They can't be good. I can't imagine so. This one I'm actually, I haven't seen, but I am interested in. That being said, if people are like, oh my God, you should watch F.I.S.T.

You'd love Paradise Outlet. Escape to Victory was a Michael Caine movie. It's about a soccer team in a World War II prison camp that then escape. It's like the whole Nine Yards or whatever. Oh, and he's one of the quirky characters. He's one of the quirky characters, yeah. Probably an Italian guy. He's like, we play all the football in the US.

Ill football. Ill football, yeah. So there you go. But it's that one I'm kind of interested in because I really like Michael Caine. But then, of course, we've got Rocky III, which again we'll come back to. The third Rocky movie. The third Rocky movie by all accounts. And then First Blood.

Ranked chronologically. Yes. It's the third one. First Blood. Yes. Which I'd never seen, but I watched this week. Give me your thoughts. It's good.

It's definitely of its time. It's probably the best Rambo movie. I quite like Four, but I haven't seen it in a long time yeah I haven't re-watched that one but it does have something to say you don't like you don't like First Blood part two where they fight Vietnam over again okay not really all right I mean it's better than three yeah but it's just kind of maybe because I watched them all in a row and two or three yeah right and I think one has way more to say yes I think First Blood has way more to say. I watched an interview with Stallone.

He was talking about how initially there was a lot of dialogue where he kills a squirrel in the woods and he's doing one-liners. He's like, goddamn squirrel fucking whatever. He used you on F Word. I did. Are you happy? Yeah, I'm not happy. I didn't want to use it on that.

It's too late now. Yeah, I know. And then so he had all these weird one-liners that they then took. It was like three hours long. It was mostly him running around in the woods. And so Stallone re-edited this. Himself? Yeah, I think he always says he did.

Okay. And so he took all the dialogue out. He's also outlived a lot of his contemporaries. So I guess he could probably be like, yeah, I did all the editing myself. He checks and he's like, that guy's dead. That's right. Well, not Brian Dennehy is still around. He's 81 years old.

That's true, yeah. I looked at how old Brian Dennehy was. He was 44. I'm like, my God, Brian Dennehy is living forever. I like Brian Dennehy. Yeah. Yeah. But he plays the cop.

So if people don't know, it's like he's a drifter. He goes to a small town. The sheriff of that town takes him out. He's like, you can't stay here because we don't want no drifter, Vietnam vets in here. And then he only just wants to summon a way. So he goes back into town. He gets arrested.

And then there's this vendetta between him and the cops. And the kind of destruction in this is a man going mad. Because he's not killing anybody in the woods. He kills one person by accident. Yeah. But he's the best of the best and all that kind of destruction in this is a man going mad. Yeah. Because he's not killing anybody in the woods. He kills one person by accident. Yeah. But he's the best of the best and all that kind of thing. That's true, yeah. And then at the end, he blows up a lot of stuff in the town,

like an ammunition store and a petrol station, and then he just gives up at the end after a monologue about how he was treated in Vietnam. Yeah. And it's kind of anticlimactic, but I like the ending. Yeah, it's more of a taxi driver kind of situation. It's more of a, it's a film. It is a film.

As opposed to a movie. Yeah. Whereas the, we got an email this week, which we'll get to later. I love emails. But it was, how do you distinguish between a film and a movie? Yeah. And I feel like First Blood is a film. Yes.

Like you could, I feel like you would study First Blood in maybe a film studies class, but you would not study. Or maybe you'd study the next two as, you know. Maybe you'd study the devolution of a franchise. I think the problem is, and we talk about this in Caravan of Garbage because we kind of cover them all in that video on Tuesday, but they take that as the best of the best of the best element of the first one.

And they only carry that over. He's not really tortured by war. He's kind of in the fourth one he is, but it's more kind of like he's just a really good soldier. Who's kind of reluctant in the other ones. Until he's not. Like the core

element of being a good soldier, of following orders even though that's not what you want to do and you've got to just deal with the horrors of war and all that sort of stuff. They get rid of all that and it's just like, how are you the best soldier? You're so good at blowing stuff up and shooting arrows and firing a machine gun.

Pretty good at shooting arrows and blowing stuff up, I agree. So after that, of course, we had Staying Alive, which he directed. He's in it briefly. But that's, of course, the sequel to Saturday Night Fever. And atrocious by all accounts. I listened to a really interesting How Did This Get Made episode on that particular thing. And Stallone apparently helped sculpt John Travolta's body for this because John Travolta's like super ripped in that movie.

Face-off style. Face-off style, exactly. And it's just a continuation. We're pumping all this fat out. We're giving it to the Cheesecake Factory. You know we are. And it's just apparently really weird and tragic and bad and wasn't well-received and Travolta's terrible in it

and everyone's terrible in it. And Frank Stallone's in it quite a bit as well. He did some of the soundtrack. Which also, Frank Stallone, who's Stallone's brother, pops up in a lot of these. He's in it quite a bit as well. Oh, there you go. He did some of the soundtrack, which also Frank Stallone, who's Stallone's brother, pops up in a lot of these. He's in Rocky. He does some soundtrack stuff for a bunch of his movies as well.

Which is a shame, because Saturday Night Fever is a good movie. I don't think I've ever seen it. Okay. It's not, I mean, it's disco, obviously,

but it's not like, it's not just, you know, BG songs and dancing. It's about stuff, isn't it? It's about, it's not like... Boo. No, it's not just, you know, BG songs and dancing. It's about stuff, isn't it? It's about... It's a film. It's a film as opposed to a movie. Yeah.

Yeah. Isn't there like a sexual assault in it? It's kind of coupled with that. You know, and it's a movie about what it means to be a man. What does it mean to be a man? Dancing. I've been doing it all wrong. That's right.

Yeah. Yep. Is it too late for me to take up tap? No, absolutely not. Okay. Well, look, if- It's too late for ballet, certainly, because you don't have the ankles for it anymore.

That's definitely true. Or the toes. I see this injury on my- I fell walking up the stairs today, and I cut my hand. Well, look, to be fair, I was going two at a time. I'm like, I've still got this.

I don't. Don't go two stairs at a time. Yeah. People keep asking if you're back with regards to taking stairs two at a time, you know, absolutely not. Yeah.

So then of course he did rhinestone, which is a musical comedy. I don't know what that is. It's with, I believe I'm ranking that below Dolly Parton's in it. Yeah. I'm ranking that above night Hawks, but I'm ranking it below both fist and paradise alley.

I can appreciate that. So that's a big still. Oh, we haven't been ranking these at all. It doesn appreciate that. That's a big stellioff. Oh, we haven't been ranking these at all. It doesn't matter. Oh, no, we'll have to go back quickly. No, it doesn't matter. All right.

So basically it's atrocious, apparently. Like he can't sing because, of course he can't. No, absolutely. And that's fine. Not everybody can do everything. But, yeah, he thought what it meant to be a man was singing, but he was way off. He was very wrong. He was closer with staying alive. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, he thought what it meant to be a man was singing. But he was way off. He was very wrong. He was closer with staying alive.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I believe, yeah. So, and this is when we kind of, this is when things really take off for him. Because then we had First Blood Part 2. Then we had Rocky IV. Then we had Cobra. So, which of those do you want to talk about? Well, Cobra's bad.

Cobra's a bad movie. Yeah, I haven't seen Cobra in a long time. I also remember there was a TV show in the 90s, do you remember that? Sort of, yeah. It wasn't starring him, but he's talked about bringing it back as... It's actually... Sorry, there's an interesting story behind Cobra

because how that movie started was... It's a Beverly Hills Cop script. Exactly. Or something. Well, sort of. So basically they wrote this amazing comedy for Stallone, like, we want you to play Axel Foley. And he came in. But he was Axel Kobretti at the time. Yeah, he changed the name.

He changed all the comedy stuff to action beats. It's a typical story. So he was in acting plus writing mode. Yeah, exactly. Okay, right. And then they were like, this is going to be really expensive. We're going to do it with Eddie Murphy. It was a huge hit.

So he took that. Exactly. We're not blowing up that car. We're going to put a banana in the tailpipe. That's uh we're going to do with eddie murphy it was a huge hit so he took that not exactly we're not blowing up that car we're going to put a banana in the tailpipe that's what we're doing it's way funnier which it is to be fair and then so he took basically all his ideas from the that rewrite and he made cobra with it where it's just like but cobra itself is an adaptation of a book i think yes so it's fair game, which is... It's a mishmash of stuff. Which then became its own movie with Abe Aldwyn and Cindy Crawford, I think. I remember that. Yeah, from the 90s. It's bad.

It's real bad. So bad. That's the one where she's got a pizza account, which she rings up. That's right. Like, oh, Cindy Crawford, it's you. We'll send you a pizza. No problem. I feel like if that's the most memorable moment from a movie,

probably not a great movie. I love how they're just like, how do we make supermodel Cindy Crawford feel like a relatable human being? She's got a pizza account. Oh, my God, she had so much pizza account, she just calls up the pizza place and, one of the huge, please. Anyway, Cobra's...

I only really remember the poster, mostly, the glasses and the jacket and the... Yeah. He's an unstoppable cop and he's killing too many people. I only really remember the poster mostly, the glasses and the jacket. He's an unstoppable cop and he's killing too many people. But I feel like as a character he's mostly, he's just the jacket and the gun, right? Yeah, there's a scene in that movie where he just, he gets home to his house and he turns on the TV with like this very flick of the wrist flourish with his remote.

And then he's just at home, he's eating and he's cleaning his gun, like he's disassembling his guns and cleaning them with his glasses and his gloves still on. That's like a Terminator thing, right? Yeah, yeah, it feels that way. Because we talk about this in the Rambo thing in the video as well, but a lot of his career I think is him trying to match Schwarzenegger. Yeah, right. And being like, well, I'm not, you know, musicals and directing sequels to fucking Saturday Night Live is not working for me.

I'm going to be the muscular action man. Yeah, but I'm a writer, so I'm more. I'm more than Schwarzenegger. I'm not as big as him. I'll never be as big as him. But I'll be as more as him. He's got brawn. I'll have brains and brawn.

That's right. But short. That's true. So what do you think of Cobra, though? Like, you're not a fan. Would you give it a dally off? I'd give it maximum stathamosity. Yeah, absolutely.

Because he's kind of, he's really, it's just him buying into his own hype, I think is what that movie was. Definitely. Or just being like, people will 100%, and maybe at the time, because I think it was a big hit. I think it got bad. I remember it had bad reviews, but it was a huge hit, I think, at the time. Yeah.

And maybe that- The box office was 160 million, and it was made for 25, so you are 100% correct, yes. Yeah, right. But I feel like it's just him just buying into the idea that he is, he's just going to be a cool guy on screen and people are going to absolutely love it. And to be honest, he was right, clearly, based on that box office.

But it's not good. It's not a good movie. Because it came off the back of two very successful, like Rambo 2 and Rocky 4 came out in the same year and the next was Cobra. So it's not surprising that it did really well. Anyway, I'm going to give it a Keanu. Yeah. It's not it's not on that level is it no that's right i know because you stally off yes god this is so complicated i like i was getting more complicated every time uh and then the next one of course is that you specifically requested to talk about this 1987's over the top yes which, I think this is where he tried to go,

I'm going to go bronze and heart. Yeah. I think that's what, do you want to explain the plot of Over the Top? The plot of Over the Top is that Sylvester Stallone plays a, he's like a, he's a long haul trucker. Yep. With like a broken down truck. And his goal is to win like

an across America arm wrestling tournament so he can get the major prize money and get a new truck. And get his son back as well or something? Well, that's the thing. He's like, I'm going to go, this is going to be free and easy and I'm going to,

no complications in my life. All I'm about is trucking and arm wrestling and buying new trucks. But then he discovers that he has a son because one time he went through town and he met like a well-to-do lady who was kind of like entranced by his macho down-to-earthness. I can appreciate that.

And they had a kid and he didn't know about it. Yeah. Well, he did know about it and he left. But he definitely figured it out in this movie. He figured it out in this movie. But his kid is like this very well-to-do military prep kid. Boo! He's very posh and he doesn't gel with Stallone's sort of tough guy.

I didn't realise they were from different worlds. How does this movie even work there? They're absolutely different from different worlds. How does this movie even work there? They bond in the end, do you know what I mean? Because he beats him in an arm wrestle? Yeah. Stallone beats him in an arm wrestle.

Stallone just crushes this kid in an arm wrestle, exactly. I love a movie about a really specific competition that apparently have very high stakes. It reminds me of Every Which Way But Loose, which is about Clint Eastwood, who's maybe also a trucker,

going across America in underground trucking, fisticuff competition. That's right, yeah. So is it like that, I guess? Yeah, and I guess it's also similar to like Roadhouse where it's like, well, Patrick Swayze's the toughest body. He's the toughest bouncer in all the land.

People come from miles around to look at him. Where I think this movie falls down is, for one, it's dumb. It's a dumb idea. He does know that he's a strange wife. He does know that he is. But the father, the super well-to-do, A dumb idea. He does know that he's... He does, okay. It's an estranged wife. He does know that he is. Okay, they were married, okay. But they haven't... But the father, the super well-to-do, like... Yeah, the rich dad.

The grandfather, rich dad is like, get out of here. Don't see this. Yeah, exactly. Take your truck and take your muscles. He disapproves of the relationship, yeah. Yeah. But I think where this falls down is the comedy... Also, Sylvester Stallone's character's name is Lincoln Hawk.

Oh, so good. So good, right? You could even... You could switch that. It wouldn't matter, would you? Hawk Lincoln? Doesn't matter. Yeah, I think the idea that the competition is an arm wrestle is not as interesting as a gunfight or a fight or a boxing match.

It's an arm wrestle. Well, you say that, but you haven't watched it, so you should. I've seen the arm wrestling clips. So oily and tense. I get it. I understand. But you can have a boxing match haven't watched it, so you should. I've seen the arm wrestling clips. So oily and tense. I get it. I understand. But you can have a boxing match go for quite a while and keep interest. But arm wrestling is like...

No, no. It's all in the eyes. It's all in the bulging eyes. It's in the bulging eyes. You're right. Yeah. Have you seen that? There's two versions of the footy show in Australia.

One of them is cancelled now. I don't know what the other one is. But the NFL one. Not the NFL one. The NRL one. Oh, sure. Not the NFL one. The NRL. The NRL one. The rugby one. You see the moment they have the arm wrestling competition

and a guy's arm gets snapped in half on air. No. And you just see the thing just break. Oh, no. And then they're like, oh, we're going to cut to it. It is. So that's, I don't think I'll ever arm wrestle ever again after seeing that. Okay, cool.

Just like watching a man's arm snap. Because the moment you'd be, because your options there are just lose immediately, you know, because you don't want that to happen to you. Yeah. Or like be on the verge of winning and then you get that vision of like, well, what if this guy rallies and my arm snaps off? And then you're like, well, I'm done. Then of course. Anyway, over the top should be. That's a stallion. Well, it's a stallion well it's a stallion it's a key

yes and it's got maximum state thermosity yes and i feel like that movie should be like that movie should be better more more seen and more well known than it is i think also it's bad oh it's yeah yes uh rambo three then of course yep which again we'll talk about this week this one i really like 1989 1989's Locker. Oh, he's escaping from prison. I really like this movie. Tell me all about it. So it's just, it's essentially Stallone goes to prison for a crime that he did or didn't commit.

I think he beat up somebody who beat up his dad or something. Oh yeah, right, right. It's a con air situation. Yeah, he's in there for. It's a con air sitch. Yeah, he's in there for something that, you know, he doesn't deserve to be there. He's doing time. But he's also a great escape artist.

Anyway, it turns out that he has to escape because someone's going to go after his wife in the real world. And even though he's like, but Stallone, you're getting out of the week. The real world of Sylvester Stallone. He's going after his wife, Bridget Nielsen. That's right. Was it Eddie Murphy? Apparently they have a longstanding feud also. Oh, really? Because Sylvester Stallone's wife was Bridget Nielsen,

who was in Rocky IV and was in – he's in Cobra as well. All right. But she's in Beverly Hills Cop too. Oh, and so they have an affair. Well, Stallone alleged at the time was like, you're having an affair with my wife. Bridget Nielsen's in – yeah, she's the Russian. Yeah, she was in the New Rocky,

whatever it's called. Yeah, she's Drago's wife. There you go. Anyway, he's escaping. He's escaping from prison. He has to escape

and it's quite good and I may just be remembering that but I remember seeing it a couple of times. Is it a devilishly clever escape? I think it's just like climb some pipes and whatever.

Yeah, right. Do you like climbing pipes? Well, I mean, you know, these days they design a prison where you can't climb the pipes.

That's true. They don't have like just a secret wall behind your prison cell which you can just climb into. That's true, yeah. And get out of there. Yeah, absolutely. But then, of course, if we're talking prison break movies. Tango and Cash.

Tango and Cash that same year. I'll lock up. I'll give it all the ratings. Okay. Tango and Cash isn't very good, but it's very entertaining. I agree. Yeah, exactly. It's got the Stallone-Kurt Russell team-up we first saw in Guardians of the Galaxy 2. Yes.

I can't believe the way they cast this, that Stallone is the nerd. Uh-huh. I can. No, I think Kurt Russell could convincingly play a Wall Street guy more than Stallone could play a Wall Street guy is what I'm saying. Because he's like a prim and proper Wall Street glasses-wearing stock market following cop. Yeah, but see, at the time... That's funny because that's not who he really is.

No, but it's funny, but it's also like in the 80s, it's like the Wall Street guys were like the masters. They were called the masters of the universe kind of thing like that. I think like an American universe kind of thing like that. I think like an American psycho kind of guy. Yeah. So they would be huge and also stock market guys, you know what I mean? So it's like that.

I mean, they thought they were. It's like tech bros who think they're. Yeah, the Gordon Gekko kind of effect. Yeah, exactly. Where he kind of did that as like a parody almost of those guys and they all went, we love this. And they all started dressing like Gordon Gekko and whatever. I liked that Wall Street 2 movie, Money Never Sleeps. Did you?

No, it was bad. You got them. It wasn't good. No, it was bad. I remember. Remember when Gordon Gekko turned evil in the second one and he slipped his hair back again? We all remember Wall Street 2, Money Never Sleeps.

We all do. It was bad. No, I remember. I remember a lot of interviews with like with michael douglas and they're like so is greed still good and he's like no it wasn't supposed to be good in the last one why did i agree to this agreed to this oh uh so take on cash of course uh the running kind of joke throughout that movie is they never quite get that high five. That's right. Until at the end they get the high five and then it cuts to a newspaper clipping of a picture of them high fiving.

Two cops share worst ever high five, the headline reads. But there's like monster trucks and a prison break. It's just a dumb movie. And if you recall, Stallone does take a shot at Rambo. Oh yeah, that's right. Very cool. He did Rocky V after that, which I've never seen by all accounts.

I'm putting that below all the other things that I said. Below Rhinestones? Yeah, below Rhinestones. I think he tried to make Rocky want it. He was like, these Rocky movies are getting out of hand He's fighting He's stopping wars

And overseas Boxing matches But yeah And then of course He did the movie And I just The only reason I've seen this Because I just

I remember I had a day off school And I just happened to cross it During the day It's 1991's Oscar What is that? It's a John Landis directed comedy Is he some sort of I picture him

like wearing a scarf and a little pom-pom hat. What's his deal? He's a mobster. Okay. But it's shot like a 1930s screwball comedy. Almost like a stage, I think it is a stage play. Okay. And I remember at the time thinking it was okay for what it was but apparently

people, I haven't seen it in 20 plus years, apparently people hate it. Okay. And it didn't do well and it was. But apparently people, I haven't seen it in 20 plus years, apparently people hate it. Okay. And it didn't do well and it wasn't funny. And people are like, Stallone can't do comedy and this is not good. Okay. And it's just kind of a wacky, there's no action. It's just like pretty much set in the one location,

like this mobster's mansion. Okay. I loved it. It sounds like you did love it. But apparently it's bad or so I barely remember. And it is a wacky screwball comedy. Yeah. Interesting. How does Stallone is a wacky screwball comedy. Yeah.

Interesting. How does Stallone carry off wacky screwball comedy? He's fine. I remember him being okay. I remember being surprised that he was doing it when I saw it, because I had just never heard of it. And you know what? If I hadn't have watched it, I...

You wouldn't be the man you are today. Well, I haven't seen it referenced anywhere ever since. Right. So the only reason I know about it is because, I haven't seen it referenced anywhere ever since. Right. So the only reason I know about it is because I just happened to watch it like 20 years ago. If you saw a reference to it on, say, The Simpsons, you'd be like, that couldn't be real. Absolutely. And then, of course, 1992 is... Oh, he's hanging off a clock in the poster. Yeah.

Look at that. Look at that wacky situation he's in. That never happens in the movie, but I think they had to go do some action stuff. Let's have something. Let's say something is happening in this. Is Cliff Harington years before Cliff Harington? He really is. Stop. Or my mom will shoot. It's also, I didn't realise

this, but it's stop! Or my mom will shoot. It's with a golden girl, isn't it? It's a Stelgetti, yeah. He only did this because Arnold tricked him into it. That's right, famously. He was like, I'm in the running for this. Yeah, he heard that Arnold wanted to do it,

so his agent was like, get in there and do it. And he's like, but it doesn't look very good. And he's like, no, you should do it. In October 2017, Schwarzenegger confirmed a rumour that knowing the script was, quote, really bad, he had publicly faked interest in starring for producers to Louis Stallone. That's great. It's a great fake out.

Yeah. This film has an 8% approval rating on Rotten Tomatoes. Because it's good? Yeah. Great. Yeah. Those eight people, they loved it. It's their favourite movie of all time.

So there's 100 reviews, is there? Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Isn't there like jokes about Stallone needing his nappy changed or whatever? Things like that? I don't know. Like his mum's like, I'm changing your nappy.

I don't know. Anyway, bad. Then of course, 1993's Cliffhanger. Here's a review though, it says. Rita Kempley of the Washington Post

called it Your Worst Nightmare. That's probably a Rambo. My Worst Nightmare? Yeah, that's probably a Rambo reference. But stated that the concept is actually

better for Stallone than the premises of his earlier awful romps, Rhinestone and Oscar. So there you go. Like a rhinestone cowboy. Clifford Terry wrote in the Chicago Tribune that the film plays like an

extended sitcom, perhaps four episodes of She's the Sheriff, and also about two-thirds of Into Stop and My Mom Will Shoot, Sylvester Stallone actually delivers the title line, That's How Numbingly Awful This Is. Give it half a star for being in focus. Wow. Yeah. I don't think that's – is that too much, half a star for being in focus?

Anyway, here's a picture I found of Estelle Getty looking at Stallone while he's having a shower. Yeah, great. Classic mom. Classic mom situation, I guess. Do you think also he was like, Arnold's having a shower. Yeah, great. Classic mom. Classic mom situation, I guess. Do you think also he was like, Arnold's got kindergarten cop. Yeah, maybe. I haven't done a comedy yet.

That's true, yeah. But people like kindergarten cop. That's true. It would seem. The movie Oscar, we talked about that one. We're both big fans. So Cliffhanger, 1993. Oh, wait, okay.

This is big 90s. This is his 90s resurgence. I think there was a bit of a slump there. Like after Tango and Cash, it's Rocky V, Oscar, Stop My Mommal Shoot, and then it's Cliffhanger. It kind of brought him back. And also it was oft-parodied, in particular Ace Ventura 2, When Nature Calls.

Correct, yes. He drops that raccoon into a – What was he – Rock climbing with a raccoon or whatever happens in Ace Ventura. I don't know. Don't rock climb with a raccoon. Don't do it. Idiot.

Anyway, it starts with Stallone dropping somebody. He's like, you're not going to die. And then she dies and drops her. And he's probably haunted by that. Also, Michael Rook is in it. Oh, yeah. They're mates in it. But he stopped rock climbing because he's like,

I've had too many rock climbing accidents, one specifically. And then some terrorists led by John Lithgow need to get some nuclear weapons or something. That's right, yes. Or maybe regular bombs? I don't know. But they kidnap Michael Rooker and Stallone has to cliffhanger his way up to stop. That's right, yeah.

And there's a lot of stunts and helicopter action and real rock climbing, they say. Okay. When was the last time you saw this? A long time ago. Yeah, it's not good. I'm not saying it's good. I was going to say. But it's like a fun action.

Yeah. Does it feel tense? Does it feel like you could drop off that mountain at any time? I think there's a lot of like, I don't know. I watched Alex Honnell, that famous rock climber, the free solo guy who's climbing. Oh, yeah, for sure. I think he does a video where he breaks down rock climbing movies.

There's some realistic stuff in this, but it's mostly lunacy from memory. But it's fine. And at the end, there's a big explosion in a helicopter or something. I can't really remember. But he drops that raccoon, which obviously haunted him. Anyway, is it a good movie? I know it was a video game. It was a video game.

Yeah, that's primarily what I think I remember it from. Also in 1993. I'm a big fan of this one. Demolition Man. Oh, yeah, absolutely, yeah. This might be the pinnacle. I think it might be. Yeah.

It's... Oh, these action stuff. Yeah, for sure. Stallone, Snipes, Bullock. The future. Bullock. Programming someone to know Kung Fu. That's right. It's free the Matrix. Itone, Snipes, Bullock. The future. Bullock. Programming someone to know Kung Fu. That's right.

Free the Matrix. It is, yeah. At the end, freeze the villain and kick his head off. Yes. Yeah. Future cars. How do you poop in this future? Seashells.

Yep. Yeah. Apparently he's been asked about that. Apparently he said as a joke, he used the seashells to scoop it out of you. Wow. So there of you. Wow. So there you go. Wow.

But he's always getting fines for swearing in the future. What year is it, like 2032? Dennis Leary. Dennis Leary? He's the head of the resistance. Yeah, he has like a Dennis Leary-esque like monologue about society. It's pretty much the arsehole song, but in a movie. Oh, man. Yeah, it's just kind of like it's schlocky and it's pretty much the asshole song, but in a movie. Oh man.

Yeah. It's just kind of like, it's schlocky and it's fun and silly and it's got Sandra Bullock and Taco Bell, except if you're in other countries where they changed it to Pizza Hut, like they did for Australia. Did they? Yeah. They like CGI'd it all. Really?

Yeah. I think it was Australia. What an innovative use of CGI there. I think so. Yeah. And it's also got- We know what Taco Bell is. I guess it's a promotional thing though. Yeah, I think it was Australian. What an innovative use of CGI there. I think so, yeah. And it's also got- We know what Taco Bell is. I guess it's a promotional thing, though.

Yeah, exactly. And also, it's got the guy from Yes Minister as one of the villains. Oh, it does too, yes. Nigel something? The little one with the big eyebrows. Yeah, the little one with the big eyebrows. Yeah, I understand. Exactly.

It's a fun movie. Yeah. Well, I mean, maximum stathamosity, obviously. Big K-I-S and a stallion. For downloading the Kung Fu. Yeah, for sure. I didn't see this one, but did you see The Specialist in 1994? He's a bomb guy.

Sharon Stone's in it. I think I did see it, but I had retained no memories of it. Okay. It's serious, right? It's like we're going to talk about assassins later. It's basically the same movie. Okay, I was going to say, yeah. And then Judge Dredd in 1994. Oh, my God. I watched this. It's fun, right? I re like we're going to talk about assassins later. It's basically the same. Okay, I was going to say, yeah. And then Judge Dredd in 1995.

Oh, my God. I watched this. It's fun, right? I re-watched it. And bad, but it's fun. I mean, it's certainly bad. I mean, and again, the biggest crime he does in this movie is he, I think because he was like, okay, this is a comic role.

Yeah. I have to go big all the time. So there's so much. I don't picture Judge Dredd shouting. I'm the Lord. There's a lot of, I'm the Lord. Yeah, exactly. And he obviously takes the helmet off.

Yeah, almost immediately. And it's in... It may have killed the new Dredd movie as well. Yeah, I think it probably did. And I think that the world itself is just filled with weird, like, mid-'90s action shots that look... They're just kind of generic and boring, but they are dressed up like Mega City 1,

and I think that is the major appeal. The costume is dead on accurate for some reason. Oh, it really is, yeah. We get a... The eagles on the shoulders. Exactly. We get... The bikes.

Yeah, bizarre. I mean, the guns are different, but we get bizarre villains like Mean Machine Angel who's got the dial on his head to up... Is that the metal guy? No, that's hammerstein from the abc warriors that was another fleetway okay they crossed him over the giant robot when he's in the when the mutants yeah yeah yeah uh and amanda sante's in it oh my god they're twins

or something twins or something they don't even look the same yeah it doesn't even make any sense makes no sense yeah is he genetically modified in the comics he is isn't he because he lives longer than like he doesn't age the way that regular people do, I think. I think in the comic books all judges are clones. Yeah, okay. I think they deviated. In the movie, I think Armando Santa is his clone, and that's a real big deal. But if I remember correctly, in the regular 2008 Judge Dredd universe, they're all clones, I think.

Anyway, I like what he's about Yeah But I really like the reboot Which is much better Oh yeah for sure In every conceivable way Yeah But I would have

Again if I like the big robot Yeah I think the robot looks good Again if we could If we could put If we could smush them both together I would

I I'd be way more interested in Dredd Carl Urban Dredd Yeah With more of the aesthetics Of the original Judge Dredd, Carl Urban Dredd, with more of the aesthetics of the original Judge Dredd. I think that's a budget thing, though, as well. Yeah, for sure. You can't go into the wastelands.

But also, like, and again, maybe I don't really want that because the idea of... Well, what do you want, Lacey? I don't know. That's why they both failed. The public, as represented by me, doesn't know what they want. But, like, if you did give him, like, you know, the giant golden eagle on one shoulder like the the broad comic book one and the insane mega city one where

everybody's this bizarre cartoon exaggeration of real life and and mega city one is this this hundred layer city of madness maybe you'd be like well this doesn't this this isn't a future that could possibly exist whereas the dread carl urban future feels like it feels like a future that's stalled and that's why judges exist and what's really it's weird about the stallone one is well we're talking about this one a lot but i guess it's a comic book property isn't it but like it's built like a satire like all those things you're talking about like over the top like ridiculous like legal systems and costumes and clothings and robots and whatever. But it's not at all.

It's not say anything. No, it's absolutely not. Yeah, that's true. And again, like Judge Dredd, the character is intended to be like the ultimate expression. I mean, it's set in America, allegedly, but it's like the ultimate expression of like fasc Thatcherism. Yeah, it's fascism under Margaret Thatcher, basically. And he's just this ultimate representation of law over real justice kind of thing. But this is just like, he's got to shoot a bunch of dudes. And it's his brother.

His brother's there as well. Yeah. He was the law. Yeah, he was the law. James Remar's in it as the gang leader at the start of the movie. And of course, Rob Schneider. Rob Schneider is also in it, yeah. Great star.

It's not good, but it's fun, right? But it's got maximum stathermosity, obviously. You know it is. And it's pre-The Matrix. Yeah. Which is a big key I guess for me. That's right. Do you know anything about assassins?

Because I don't know. He's an old assassin. Puss in Boots? Yeah, I was going to say, it's Banderas, right? It's Antonio Banderas. It's Gemini Man with no cloning. Oh, okay. I get this confused with X versus Sever.

Ballistic X versus Sever. That's also Antonio Banderas, but also Lucy Lewis. Yes. We should watch that, because allegedly it's one of the worst movies of all time. Oh, interesting. Yeah, it's one of the rare 0% on Rotten Tomatoes. I love that. Ones, I think. Yeah. So he's the old it's one of the rare zero percent of rotten tomatoes i love that i think yeah uh so he's the he's the old garden is the old guard and and so he's off

the back of like the old mariachi yeah yeah for sure and banderas is the new guy and he's like and the the tagline in the in the trailer was like but to be the best you have to eliminate the competition and so then banderas is like i'm gonna get rid of this guy. Is it a good move? Because they can't just be competing assassins. I mean, surely there's enough people in the world to kill. Just work on different continents. Exactly, right? Anyway, it's bad. I never finished it.

Okay. Yeah. Well then, did you ever finish 1996's Daylight? He's a small town cop in something, something earthquake? And I think he's some kind of specialist in like disasters. You know what we've hit here? We've hit the middle period. Renaissance and then immediate slump is what's happened.

Yeah, you're right. So I don't remember hating daylight, but it's basically there's an earthquake or something and then a whole bunch of people get stuck in a tunnel and they have to send in Stallone. Stallone's son's in it who's since passed on and he's just rescuing a bunch of people from a tunnel. You know what?

I'm confusing that with Copland, which was his next movie. I have not seen Copland. Copland's pretty good. But I've heard Copland's amazing because this is the one where famously he put on a lot of weight. Yes.

And he plays opposite De Niro and he's like a deaf cop as well, isn't he? I should have, I'm looking at this list now, I should have re-watched Copland. Yeah. Good from memory? Yeah.

Yeah. It didn't do super well at the time, I think, but he was... Yeah, because he's not demolition manning anybody or assassinating anybody or being the specialist in anybody. I think people liked him in it. They were like, he did a good job. Because he is a good actor when he wants to be. Yes.

When he's being Rocky or Copland, he's a good actor. When he's doing a project that he's actually passionate about, he just doesn't want... It's not a project he's doing just project that he's actually passionate about, he just doesn't want, it's not a project he's doing just to buy some more million dollar watches or whatever. You mean like 1998's Ants, with his head?

Yes, exactly, yeah. And again, we've talked about this before, but the story of Ants is what if Woody Allen was an Ants? Yeah. And I'm going to break it, but fuck off with that. Nobody wants that.

That's two F words. I apologize. But yeah, I've never, I've seen clips of ants, but it's really, it's a Bugs. It's like, could we do Bugs Life before Bugs Life? Yeah. And the animation's terrible.

Like there's not even that. It's the, the aesthetic of it is horrible. Yeah, for sure. Horrible looking film. But that's not Stallone's fault. No, it's just a- He was just there to buy a million dollar watch. He's just a big muscular ant in it.

Yeah. Do you know what Detox is from 1999? No. Let's look into it and rank it. I'm sure I saw the trailers, but I don't know what it is. It's recovering from a psychological effects of witnessing a brutal crime. FBI agent Jake Malloy Stallone checked into a rehabilitation clinic for law enforcement officers in a remote wilderness of Wyoming during the dead of winter.

He soon finds himself helping out the other patients as a serial killer begins killing them one by one. That sounds really interesting. Look at this poster. It looks extraordinarily generic. Yes, it does. And it's also got 15% on Rotten Tomatoes. Not that that necessarily means anything, but I don't mind the idea behind that. That actually sounds kind of interesting.

Also, it would definitely be something that I would confuse with K-Pax at some point. Yeah, for sure. Detoxes in 1999. Well, I'm going to put that above. I'm going to put it above rhinestones. Wait. I'm going to put it above rhinestones, I think. I agree.

Because he's doing what he loves. That's right. Shooting people. Yes. Next up, we've got Get Carter. Oh, Copland was directed by James Mangold. Yes. Of course of the Wolverine fame. Yes.

What is the deal with Get Carter? The sequel to Get Carter. What do you mean by that? Like I've never seen it. Yes. What is it? The premise of Get Carter. Yeah. Well this one's a remake of the original Get Carter. But isn't it also not a remake? Oh no. Well um

Is Michael Caine in it? Michael Caine's in it. But isn't it also not a remake? Oh, no. Isn't Michael Caine in it? Michael Caine's in it. But he's a different character. Oh, he's not Get Carter. Yeah. Okay. So he's a mob enforcer and he's Carter.

And then what happens? He's just a revenge flick. He's a Vegas mobster who comes home to bury his brother and then some crimes happen happen and uh mickey rock is in an ever fight it's great yes yeah yeah very good anyway do you remember 2001's driven where stallone plays a formula one race car driver but he's at the end of his rope he's like i'm an old i'm an old one but no there's a new one i've never seen it but anyway it's not good okay do you know what Avenging Angelo is from 2002? No, we've reached... And I think maybe this is...

I don't know. Is this a testament to... He's about to turn a corner. Yeah. Sort of. Yeah. Yeah. Testament to what?

I don't know. Just this... This was very much the he's done era. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking about. Yeah. Yeah. Uh-huh. Haven't seen it.

Madeline Stowe's in it. Released straight to DVD in the United States, but received theatrical releases in Italy. It looks like any poster for anything ever as well, doesn't it? But it does look, they've kind of given it a good fellow. Yeah, it's true. A little brush to it, maybe trick us into thinking, it's good fellas, but more shooting.

Maybe it was. $17 million budget, $800,000 box office. Yeah, just saw that. Brutal. Then, of course, he was the villain or something in Spy Kids 3 Game Over. Never really seen any of those. I think I saw the first one maybe. Shade in 2003.

No idea. And then, of course. Based on name alone, I'm putting it right at the bottom. Yep. Below all the other bad ones that I said. That is. Let me check what this is. It's got Tandy Newton and Gabrielle Byrne

and Stuart Townsend as con artists there taking down Sylvester Stallone, a well-known card shark or something. It's got 67% on Rotten Tomatoes, so there you go. Maybe it's worth a watch sometime. If it somehow appeared on your Netflix queue, you maybe watch five minutes of it.

But then, of course, we get Rocky Balboa, which really brought it. But he had a three-year break between Shade and Rocky Balboa. So he was kind of lying low. He's got his millions. What does he care? And then I think it took him a while to get Rocky Balboa off the ground. But Rocky Balboa is an excellent movie.

I agree, yeah. And he does that speech that everybody puts in motivational clips on YouTube about getting hit and getting up. And if you get hit, get up or get back down because life will hit you. But if you get up, you'll hit life. Get up. But get down if you have to, obviously. Obviously, yeah.

Like a rhinestone cowboy. That's right. Oh, my God. He was just saying the lyrics to Rhinestone Cowboy. But, yeah, no, that's great. And it somehow makes you believe the impossible, which is that the very, very old Rocky Balboa, who is now no longer in sort of cartoon Rocky world,

but in the real world, could somehow defeat a real boxer. Yeah. He's robots out of juice, and he is also. That's right. Anyway, we'll do episodes on those properly. And then 2008 was Rambo, which didn't have the success of Rocky Balboa. It's not great, but it's a pretty good action movie. It's a massive step up from the original Rocky 3 and 2.

What's this? Sorry, the- Rambo. From the original Rocky- Oh, Rambo 3. Yes, yes, yes. Sorry, yeah, yeah. I'll edit that so you say thebo 3. Yes, yes, yes. Sorry, yeah, yeah. I'll edit that so you say the right thing.

Yeah, nice. You're going to sound... Preach. Yeah. No, it definitely is. And it's also more realistic despite having the higher kill count because when he's in a flatbed truck with a machine gun, he's shielded.

Yeah, right. Because in the other movies, he just runs out with a machine gun and people just miss him. Yeah, that's true. And I think he also gets winged by a bullet even at one point which is anyway after those two he's flying sky high and he's like i i'm ready to go alone i've had maxim stay thermosity probably a key i key i yes for both of those my stallion is on i can do anything yes people this is what people want to see they want to see the expandables and i guess they did i guess but they suck all of them i let's but let's put them together yes uh all of them

yeah i've only definitively seen the third one we've done an episode on it it's bad oh my god i fell asleep during the first one uh-huh it's it's also the first arnold stallone movie together okay i've got a really brief scene right Do you think maybe a third party tricked them both into being in The Expendables? They were friends by then, I believe. Yeah, they buried the hatchet. But of course, there's also sort of a crossover in Last Action Hero, where in that universe,

Stallone plays the Terminator. That's right. Yeah. But I just don't like them. I just think they're generic action movies. They're so bad. But with people you recognise. Yeah, absolutely.

Yeah. But again, people say Two's the best or whatever, but in between One and Two he did Zookeeper, where he voiced a lion. I see. Some zoo animals helped Kevin James have sex. Is that what the plot of Zookeeper is? I believe so. Yeah, he's a talking lion.

Incredible. And they're like, we want to help you, Kevin James. Have you seen the, there's three, look, we might have to breeze through a few of these. You're talking about Escape Plan, aren't you? There's three Escape Plan movies. Yes, there are. What are they? How have I missed these?

I've seen the first one. Well, we were going to have Andy and Alan this week. Uh-huh. But they were sick. No doubt. One of them was sick. Of our nonsense. Of our nonsense.

But they were, I can't remember which one of them watched the first Escape Plan and didn't mind it. I'll watch it. I'll watch it. I'll watch it, okay. And it's basically they have to escape the super prison and it's the first actual proper Stallone-Schwarzenegger crossover movie. What a world. What a world.

I have not seen this. It's okay. It's fine. It's not great. I guess now if Schwarzenegger isn't in a Terminator movie, we don't care anymore. Is that? I want to see that movie Maggie where he-

He's got a daughter. Daughter and she's a zombie or whatever. Yeah. I want to see the movie Terminator Salvation where they put his CGI face in. Oh, you want to see that one? I want to see that one. But no, maybe you're right. I think he more plays as like a meme or in a whiskey commercial or something.

Yeah, or like maybe a Facebook video where he says, eat less meat and something else. Yeah, exactly. Do more crunches. Yeah, do more crunches, exactly. But yeah, this era of Stallone is interesting because he also did like Grudge Match, which is a weird Rocky parody where he fights De Niro.

So they're both kind of playing, like he's sort of playing Rocky and De Niro's sort of playing Raging Bull. Oh, I see, right. Not really, but yeah, I've seen bits of it. But they're old and it's funny? They're old and it's funny, yeah. And there's a bit where he goes to like hit some meat

and Alan Arkin's like, what are you doing? That's not how we train. It's pretty funny. Because he's a different character. He's a different character, yeah. Do you know what Reach Me is from 2014? Because I don't. Is that back to his soft porn career?

Giving that a whirl? A mysterious author's self-help book inspires a journalist, his editor, a former convict, an actor, and others to reevaluate their choices towards creating better lives. 4% Rotten Tomatoes. Incredible. He's got his goatee. He's got his expendables goatee.

Okay, good, good, good. Very good. Which he only has in some of the movies, maybe. 2015 was Creed, which is very good. Yes. Again, he cares about that character a lot. He's got a great monologue in it. I think he wants Rocky to have...

If he wants one character that he's ever done in his career to have a legacy and be remembered as sort of a legendary character, it's definitely Rocky. Absolutely. Did we miss... We missed Bullet to the Head. It's based on a comic. I've seen it. It's definitely Rocky. Absolutely. Did we miss... We missed Bullet to the Head. It's based on a comic. I've seen it.

It's fine. It's completely serviceable. And anyway, Escape Plan 2, Animal Crackers, Backtrace, Escape Plan 3. Is Schwarzenegger and Stallone in all three Escape Plan movies? No, I think Dave Bautista does the second one. Okay, cool, cool, cool. Or maybe all the third one. So it's Escape Plan 2, Plan 2 Hades,

and then Escape Plan 3 from 2019, which may or may not be out. It's called The Last Extractors. Are these... I think they're directed DVDs. Are these... Are they escaping...

Second ones. Are they escaping real world super prisons or are they escaping sci-fi prisons? Okay, to spoil the first one, it's sort of a sci-fi prison because they're like,

you can never escape this prison. This prison's... It's in your mind? It's the best prison you'll ever be in. And don't even think about escaping. And then when they go to escape, he goes to see what's going on. It's on like a barge ship in the middle of the ocean. You can escape that.

What? Where are you going to swim to, Mason? Your mum's house? She's not even home. She wouldn't even open the door for you, mate. I reckon she would. She might actually. She might be happy to see me, actually.

I don't see her all that often. Yeah. So what do you think of that? Love it. Escape plan. The second two both have Dave Bautista. They also both have Curtis Jackson, 50 Cent. Oh, 50 Cent himself. That's right, yeah.

Very good. Cool. Anyway, anything in particular that you want to just touch on before we, like Guardians of the Galaxy, do you think you had any idea what was happening in Guardians of the Galaxy? Absolutely not. They were like, put on a, they were like, remember Demolition Man? Put on a suit and put on this weird suit

and you're going to be fighting crime. And he went, all right. Yeah. He probably turned up on set in his Judge Dredd outfit. And they're like, it's close. Yeah, yeah, that's right. You're pretty close,

but it's not quite what we're going for here. Yeah, I think I've seen some outtakes where like they're feeding him lines and he's just clearly like, I have no idea what's happening. Yeah. It's a good movie. Yeah. I think I've seen some outtakes where like they're feeding him lines and he's just clearly like, I have no idea what's happening. Yeah. It's a good movie. It is a good movie.

It's got nothing to do with it. It's a good movie. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, overall his career, what would you give it? Kia yes,

Kia no? I reckon give it a Kia yes, but I mean, there's a lot of, look, again, sure. Respect for,

respect the game, respect the work ethic. Absolutely. But I mean, But I mean, there's a lot of garbage in there Yeah, but I also think that he's really Is it just him making good movies to outrun the garbage, maybe? Maybe, but I think also He's created characters that have endured That's true To the modern day

I feel like the same way that he's kept going With his action movies And keeping himself in tip-top condition and whatever. It's just like this pure grit that kind of drives him and has kept him relevant for like 40 years. And again, it's not just that he has been these characters, it's that he did create them. It's not just like, well, they gave me a script and I went, okay,

I'll act the heck out of this. I'll do ants, he said. Exactly. It's just he's had the major hand in creating his most iconic role. So maybe do it against Stallone. Yeah. Give us one more. Well, he's got Rambo Last Blood.

Now give us a new one. Rambo Last Blood Part 2. Now give us a fresh guy, fresh character. A fresh guy? Yeah. Yeah, that's right. Would he be a down on his luck guy? He's just like us? Yes. But he's really muscular for no reason? Correct, yes. Yeah, that's right. Would he be a down-on-his-luck guy? He's just like us?

Yes. But he's really muscular for no reason? Correct, yes. Like us. Like us. So it's a Kia, yes? I think so, yeah. Maximum stay thermosity.

Maximum stay thermosity. And they're mates also, obviously, because they did the expandables together. And Stallion. And absolutely Stallion, I think, yeah. Absolutely. What a world. Should we move on to the next segment of the show? Yes, we should.

Do you know what that segment's called? Is it what we're reading what we're gonna read it is called that incredible i'm doing the thing what are we reading today incredible yes what are you reading what you're gonna read um gosh what have I been reading? I'm watching a lot of Stallone stuff. I had something prepared. What was it? What have you been reading? I've been watching The Terror Season 2. Oh, yes.

It's a Japanese internment camp. Okay. There's a Japanese spooky monster coming for you. Oh, my goodness. Yes. It wants spirits and babies and stuff. And it wants your soul. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, it's good. Very good. It's not finished yet. I like that it's taken a completely different turn from season one, which is... Same cast? It's not an American Horror Story situation. No, completely different cast.

The first one was about a magic polar bear or whatever. Oh, yeah, right. And this one's about a magic Japanese weird monster. Very good. And I like it a lot. I listen to the new Post Malone album. That's what I listen to. I quite like it.

I don't know much about Post Malone. Do you like his face tattoo? No, I hate it. Barbed wire and the other one says, So tired or get tired or... Something album. That's what I listened to. I quite like it. I don't know much about Post Malone. Do you like his face tattoo? No, I hate it. Barbed wire and the other one says, so tired or get tired. Something like that. No, I hate it. Look at him.

He seems like a very nice man. He does seem nice, yeah. I watched some interviews with him a while back and apparently he came to Hollywood, I think, because some of his friends were like Twitch streamers. Like they were professional streamers and they're like, you want to come along? And he's like, okay, I've got some songs.

I love songs. I'll do that. And apparently he also has a guy, I this is on based on the interview he has a guy on his like it's he's got like a staff of bros and like one of them just just runs his beer bong for him he gets paid a thousand dollars a day just to hang out in his house and just do a beer bong if he wants a beer bong so 300 and whatever 365 000 a year maybe unless he gets some vacation but that'll be unpaid he's probably paid vacation i'd imagine that guy's also got jokes though yeah he would have jokes absolutely yeah yeah and he'd be like good on your post good on your mates like that's yeah smokes too many cigarettes though he needs to

stop smoking cigarettes you think so yeah do you just see every. Do you just see every picture of him smoking a cigarette? Yeah. That's probably true. Anyway, it's a pretty good album. It's a little bit samey. But I also, for me, it feels like, oh, my God, this is so fresh. Like, I like, this isn't a genre I understand, really. But maybe every album in this kind of genre,

because it's kind of like hip hop, but then it's like, you know, it's got some, you know, it's got quite a bit of singing, but it's like some's auto-tuned, some's not auto-tuned. He's got like a country vibe now. He did that Spider-Verse song. Yeah, that's on here. Sunflower with Sway Lee is on this album. Yeah, so I don't know if it's like, is every album in this genre,

does it all sound the same or am I? Right in. Is it? Right in, let us know, yeah. But he's also got a song that I, that I like, which is just like this, this ballad about hating being on the internet. He's like,

he's like, you know, like if, if this, if this, all this stuff breaks, all this news and rumors, he's like,

I won't know. Cause I won't be on the internet no more. It's pretty good. Yeah. It's pretty good. We're living in a post post malign society. We're living in a post post malign society. Yeah. Yeah're living in a post-Post Malone society, yeah. There you go.

Yeah. Should we do the next segment of the show? Momentarily, we'll do that. I can't wait. Yeah, okay, maybe I'll give that album a listen. You've got to listen. Maybe I should listen to the previous one. He's hugely successful now.

Yeah. Yeah, he's really bloody exploded like a gun. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. All right, let's do some letters maybe? I would love to. All right, let's do some letters maybe I would love to Alright let's do it The classic one was

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Hashtag Weekly Planner Pod on Twitter Or weeklyplannerpod at gmail.com we just shoot over an email to nicholas p mason what do you got this week mason this is from sean i mentioned this earlier uh he said uh uh do films exist or is everything a movie in australia do you go to the cinema or the movies so his question is when is a movie a film i've listened to the podcast for three years and i'm sure i've've heard James say both interchangeably. Yeah, because I do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've never thought about it. I say I'm going on a movie. Uh-huh.

What do you say? I feel... I say cinema experience. Yeah, cinema experience. Yeah. I think, I don't know. To me, a film has some sort of artistic merit to it. Okay.

Yeah. I mean, they're technically interchangeable. Oh, they're absolutely interchangeable. But in my mind, a movie is just, it's a series, it's dialogue and action on screen. It's Ballistic X versus Sever. Exactly. That's a movie.

But a film. But, I mean, as we said earlier, like I would say, well, a film is something you study in film studies class. But maybe, I mean, you can study an action film. You can absolutely study in, anyway, what I'm saying is jury's out. Jury's out. Yeah. But I don't think I would say tradition i would i would never say i'm off to see a film no i think i'd say i'm going to the movies what about this though would you say that if you're trying to make a film film like a once upon a time in hollywood yep like say like that movie

we talked about with stallone um oscar that's probably they were going to make a more of a film we're trying to make it would you consider that a film then, even though it didn't succeed necessarily? No, I don't think I would. But I don't know. Maybe I also think that everything from like, maybe I think just the vast majority of things from that, like the late 80s, early 90s is just a movie kind of thing. Like everything there's just.

Except for Goodfellas. Yeah, exactly. That's a film. Okay, fair enough. Yes. Anyway, people have, I'd like to know if there is even a distinction between these. I've never really thought about it.

But no, I don't disagree with you where there is the kind of, in my mind there is a difference. I think I never really realised that. Films are elevated. Yes. Citizen Kane isn't a movie, is it? No. It's a film.

It's a film. Danny Heard says... Maybe it's also just an era thing. Yeah. Because now films that were filmed on film. Films. It's a film. Danny Heard says... Maybe it's also just an era thing. Yeah. Because now films that were filmed on film... Films. They can be films. Yeah, like films.

But these days everything's a movie because it's on digital. That's right. Yes. Danny Heard says... Hashtag WeeklyPlanetPod on Twitter. Thoughts on the content for Apple TV+. It's like $4.95 a month. It's coming up soon.

Oh, God. Good. Another nickel and dime. I'm not going to... Small change situation. I'm not going to get it initially, but there's this show C with Jason Momoa Oh, God, another nickel and dime kind of small change situation to bully to strive. I'm not going to get it initially, but there's the show See with Jason Momoa,

and everyone's blind except there's some kids that can see. Okay, right. And then after that, and also they're doing the morning show, which is the Steve Carell, Jennifer Aniston, Reese Witherspoon show, which is probably the one of the most. It's a show? Yeah. Not just a movie?

I don't believe so. Not a film, though. Maybe it is a film. I think it's a show. It's kind of loosely based on the Matt Lauer kind of oh controversy and that he's a cancelled now yeah that's right the worst having that button in his yeah he had like a button under his desk apparently the the button though apparently that's not an uncommon thing for ceos to have just to lock people just so you can lock your door so you don't want people coming in but if you're using it for nefarious purposes yeah i in. But if you're using it for nefarious purposes.

Yeah. I mean, most CEOs are probably using it for nefarious purposes, honestly. Yeah. Okay. Jason Momoa. Have you seen Frontier? I haven't seen that, no. His fur trading show.

I've seen it quite a few episodes. And? Pretty all right. Oh, my God. Yeah, good production values. Looks well made. Would you give it 100 years of success? I'd give it 100 years of success.

Oh, I re-watched Aquaman as well. And? It's fine. I knew it. Yeah. You said you were going to watch it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Again, I like the characters and the action's pretty solid.

But then again, it's just seahorses fighting mermaids or whatever. Yeah, I mean, it's not. I wish them 100 years of success. Me, I also wish them 100 years of success. Me, I also wish them 100 years of success, but I don't know. And it looks great, certainly. And I would like to see another one, but I don't think you have to see this one again.

Okay, I won't. Okay, good. I wasn't planning on it. This is from Zach. Hi, Zach. It says, weird dream about you guys that I had. Last night I had a dream about the 200th episode of Two in the Think Tank, which we were on.

And in my dream, you guys were guests on the episode. We were and andy and al thought you were so unfunny they made you stop talking and you spent the rest of the time playing minecraft quietly that's a fear of mine that i would go on that show and they'd be like you're not helping yeah this isn't working actually could you leave yeah i mean that's uh yeah i go in thinking that but that's not what happened yeah all the other things happen though yeah, I go in thinking that, but that's not what happened. All the other things happened, though, yeah. People should listen to that, though. Or watch it.

It's on YouTube as well. They want to watch the stream. Yes. I've got a last tweet here, Mason. Okay, I'm ready. If you don't mind. Jonathan Neil Nicholson says, what's your favourite werewolf movie?

My answer is Dog Soldiers. I think my answer is also Dog Soldiers. Do you like American Werewolf in London? No, it's bad. Because I think it's boring until the end. But it's hilarious. Hilarious. I don't know if I have a favourite werewolf movie. Dog Soldiers is pretty good.

What about the one where Benicio Del Toro is a werewolf? Oh, and also, bloody, what's his face as a werewolf? What about Wolf with Jack Nicholson? I was about to say Wolf with Jack Nicholson. Does he actually turn into a werewolf? Have we answered this before? I feel like my go-to, I'm always like, what about Wolf with Jack Nicholson. Does he actually turn into a werewolf? Have we answered this before? I feel like my go-to, I'm always like, what about a wolf with Jack Nicholson?

I don't know. Could you giggle werewolf movies really quick? I will, just quickly. Wolf Cop. What? The recent, it's like a... Oh, parody one. Parody one.

Red Riding Hood, remember that, where everything was Batman Begins? Underworld, of course. They're wolf movies. Yeah, I guess. But I thought of that, but I'm like, well, they're not good, are they? They're not strictly, yeah.

Or good, so. Last Phases phases from 2014 i've never heard of cursed trick our treat i think there needs to be a new better one i agree yeah van helsing is technically a werewolf movie matrix reloaded yep some of those characters are werewolves even though you don't know about it absolutely they are well dog soldiers is way too low on this list when you Google it. Like the poster was like you've got to scroll a couple of times. But it's Dog Soldiers. Yeah, okay. It's a good movie.

I've got one more letter. Let's do it. This is from Sam. Look, it's a combination of the name and the subject line. His name is Sammy Query. And the subject line is Travolta question mark. And I'm like, man, that guy lives up to his name. It is definitely a query.

What do you got? Imagine if his name were like Sammy exclamation. He's like, Travolta? Anyway, he said, hi, guys. Listen to the show for years. All I want you guys to do is do an episode about swordfish with John Travolta and Hugh Jackman. That is all.

We probably care about a garbage that, right? Yeah. Look, I guess if Travolta and Jackman team up and Halle Berry, ooh, maybe we would do that. I don't know. Swordfish is bad. It's so bad. It's so, and it's absolutely like style over substance, just.

Do you remember that was the clip they used for this is DVD, because that scene with the explosion and they used like the Matrix bullet type. Yeah, that's right. And that movie is all, like that movie, maybe we must have talked about this years ago, but that movie, there's an opening monologue

with Travolta that just way over promises this movie because it's all about like, it's just, he has this monologue about the movie Dog Day Afternoon

and it sort of, it gives us the idea that this movie is going to be like, it's not going to be a stupid action movie, it's going to be something special and then it's just a stupid action movie. It's the idea that this movie is going to be like something. It's not going to be a stupid action movie. It's going to be something special. And then it's just a stupid action movie.

It's the stupidest action movie. It's one of the stupidest action movies there is. And I love Travolta's hair and little beard. Oh, my God. He's Flavoursaver. He's got the Flavoursaver. He's got a series of long suits on that he wears and monochrome ties. Oh, my God.

Maybe we should watch it. Yeah. See what it's like. If it's even available. Maybe we should watch it to see what it's like. If it's even available. Maybe it's not. They just thought all of it. Deleted it.

But that was kind of a big movie at the time, wasn't it? Yeah. Oh yeah. Let me see how... It was because

Halle Berry got a million dollars to get her boobs out. Well actually, the budget was $102 million and it made $147. So it didn't do super well. There you go. I forgot about that.

They were right about the Halle Berry thing. Anyways, that's the end of the show. End of the show. Thank you, everybody, for listening. Thank you for subscribing and liking and telling a friend and giving us a nice review. James, do you have a nice review there?

You know I have a nice review, Mason. This one's from me. It says, great work, guys. Keep up the good work. Nice. No, this is from Peter B. You're back. You're definitely back.

It's from Peter B. It's a, brackets, Joker fan. It's five stars, but it says it's no Joker. I mean, it's good and all, but it doesn't change the game enough, quite unlike Todd Phillips' masterpiece Joker, which really changed the game for literally everything. We cannot argue with that. It definitely did and has.

That's right. So, look, we can only aspire to that, but we'll never achieve it. Appreciate the five stars. That really helps out the show. You can just do it in app. You got an app? Do it in the app. Do it in app.

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We might get Alan Andian. Yeah, we may very well. Yeah. If they're not sick again. Jerks. A likely story. I'm sick. I'm still here. Yeah, that may very well. Yeah. If they're not sick again. Jerks. A likely story. I'm sick. I'm still here.

Yeah, that's right. I'm earning a crust. That's right, exactly. So I didn't do a Sunday video because I'm working on the bigger video. Oh, the magnum opus. You know it is, Mason. All right. Thanks, guys.

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