The Weekly Planet - 304 Edgy Movies & Spider-Man Returns

Episode Date: September 29, 2019

Join the 10 million who have tried Harry’s. Claim your special offer by going to HARRYS.COM/WEEKLYPLANETMate. It’s an edgy time to be alive. Joker. Society. And so forth. We talk some of the edgiest movies of all time, Kevin Feige joins Star Wars, Superman Returns, Huntress Returns and Lex Luthor doesn’t Returns, casting for The Batman, the original Jurassic Park cast join Jurassic World 3, The New Suicide Squad HOT SCOOP, Madam Web the movie and Spider-Man back in the MCU.Prime Mates: https://bit.ly/2okDXKbDonate Here Please: https://www.theintrepidfoundation.org/planetbroadcastingfundraiserSuggestible Podcast: https://aca.st/cf053a0:00 The Start2:31 Kevin Feige joins Star Wars10:03 CRISIS UPDATE, SUPERMAN, HUNTRESS, LEX LUTHOR!16:04 Jeffrey Wright as Commissioner Gordon17:23 Jonah Hill in The Batman21:23 Jurassic Park cast returns24:10 Sucicide Squad HOT SCOOP27:36 Madam Web Movie31:19 Spider-Man back in the MCU37:14 Edgy Movies1:24:02 What We Reading/What We Gonna Read1:29:17 Letters It’s Time For LettersJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP Itunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 TWP Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanet TWP YouTube Channel ► https://goo.gl/1ZQFGH Amazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4 T-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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You know it. Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of The Weekly Planet, where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday. With me as always is my co-host, Nick Mason. We're here. Feels good. We are. Now, Mason, last week you forgot to mention Until the very end You were on a particular podcast

You want to mention that This week Up top Last week I was on Matt Stewart's And Evan's Monroe Smith's That's true

They've teamed up finally Primates Where we talk about Primates in popular culture And we talked about An episode of Batman the Brave And the Bald

Which contained Both Detective Chimp And the terrible trio Of DC villainous apes. Grodd? Gorilla Grodd, Monsieur Millar, and the gorilla boss, who's like a mafia don, but he's also a gorilla. So he's in like a mafia suit.

Yes, correct. I love it. Anyway, we had a grand old time. So that's up there on Spotify and at Planet Broadcast. Do you want me to link it below? Yes. I don't have to. You just say the word and I'll take it out.

Yes, no, no, please. It's no skin off my nose, Mason. It's actually more work you want me to link it below? Yes. I don't have to. You just say the word and I'll take it out. No, no, please. It's no skin off my nose, Mason. It's actually more work if I have to put it in. Can you not hear me? Oh, okay. I see what you're doing. Anyway, it's a great show. Thank you.

It's linked below. Also, quickly, our charity campaign is nearly at $45,000, which means we're so close to our target of $50,000. I guess we're going to have to start making some stuff for that, which includes a bonus Q&A, a studio tour. Claire's organising some prizes. I don't know where we're at with that. Are you saying we're going to have to start making good on our promises?

That's right. For once in our goddamn lives. But all right. But absolutely, thanks. We normally wouldn't, but it's for charity, all right? That's true. So we will this time, yeah. So anyway, we've been running ads for that in the last two weeks.

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all right? Is that fair? Yeah, I think so. Okay, good. News time. I'm ready for news.

Sorry, I kind of, I ramped that up real quick. I probably should. There's no time to not ramp things up. You were. I'm ready for news. Sorry, I kind of ramped that up real quick. There's no time to not ramp things up. You were correct to do so. Okay. Big news.

It's from the Hollywood Reporter. The Hollywood Reporter. Hollywood Reporter. That's how Scooby-Doo says it. It's the Hollywood Reporter for dogs. Yes. They break all the biggest scoops and they scoop all the biggest bones out of their backyards. I thought you were going to say scoop the biggest poops, dog poops.

Oh, yeah, dog poops. Do dogs scoop their own poops? They don't. Well, Scooby do, mate. He's probably doing it for Shaggy. He's probably following him behind. That's probably true, yeah. Anyway, Kevin Feige is going to produce a Star Wars movie.

Oh, yeah, that's right. Yes. One knowledgeable source says that Feige Has told also A major actor That there's a specific role That he would like That person to play When he makes

This particular movie What do you think That actor is? Well Brie Larson Put her hand up And the internet Went insane Positively?

100% positively? 100% positively Good good good And Chris Evans Put his hand up And people There was less of a reaction But also people

Thought that was good too Great But some people Not as many I think more people people thought that was good too. Great. But some people, not as many, I think more people probably thought that was good, if I had to guess. Yeah, for sure. I didn't crunch the numbers. It didn't go viral.

Somebody is probably desperately crunching the numbers right now, being like, well, it seems there's a certain amount of support for this actor, but less for this actor, so I'm just wondering. Actors aside, Mason, I will come back to that maybe in a sec. But what do you think of this? What do you think this means for the future of Marvel? What do you think this means for the future of Star Wars?

What do you think this means for you? Will you live long enough to see this movie? What will get you? High blood pressure? Tram accidents? People call you dumb so much that you just walk into the ocean. What's going to get you? Oh, man.

Real Sophie's Choice, isn't it? They're all so likely. They're all so plausible. Yeah. Look, I don't know, but I think regardless, I will live long enough to see this Kevin Feige Star Wars movie. People have said, well, do you think maybe this is the testing grounds for Feige taking over more Star Wars stuff?

Because Star Wars... Has he done any Star Wars stuff at this point? No, but he is also... He started as a massive Star Wars fan. A lot of the Marvel model he's based around Star Wars... Has he done any Star Wars stuff at this point? No, but he is also he started as a massive Star Wars fan. A lot of the Marvel model he's based around Star Wars. You know the first 10 years? That thing they did for the MCU? Oh yes. He took that from Star Wars in the 80s

when they were like, the first 10 years, so you're like, more to come. So then he talked about that a couple years ago in an interview on the Star Wars show, which I remember watching at the time. I think it would be a great name, the Star Wars show. You've got to get him first, don't you? We've talked about this exact conversation. But, I mean, I think some of the new Star Wars stuff has hit and miss.

Yes. But also, it's always been hit and miss. Absolutely. That is very true, yeah. And the stuff that some people like, some people hate, and vice versa. So, you know, that's how it goes. I don't think there's, I mean, there might be one example where people are like, I hate this. But I think generally the Marvel movies are consistently.

Yes. They're consistently good, I would say. Yeah. Not necessarily all great. Consistently good. And maybe that's where they're aiming for. Hit that sweet spot. Hit that sweet spot and increase the selling of toys.

Yes. As you mentioned off air earlier, apparently the Star Wars toy sales are down. Yes. And that made me very concerned but it's also as i've also mentioned to you toy sales are down in general for everything because people are on their ipads they're on their bloody people won't even go outside and play with the yo-yo anymore mason because there's a yo-yo app now it's four dollars a day that's right and it's ad supported also. That's right, yeah. If you want to walk the dog, that's an extra $7. Exactly, that's right.

And you have to purchase an extra long iPad. Yeah, that's right. Which is $2,500. So I do wonder though if they're looking for kind of an overall creative person for Star Wars. I'm not saying this is it necessarily, but Star Wars is kind of the way it works is, from what I can tell, like the individual directors and showrunners kind of run their particular project, but there is like a story group that runs it.

Marvel does a little bit of that, but in general, it all falls down to Kevin Feige. And if you've got like a strong, consistent voice like he's been for Marvel, you can build something great. And I wonder whether they're trying to do something like that with him or this is just a one-off thing. Or it could be like, let's see how this goes. It could be some sort of Marvel-Star Wars crossover.

It won't be. It could be. But it won't be. But could it be? No. That just made me think of they've got a dedicated story group. Yes. Something I wonder about all the time.

Remember Michael Bay's dedicated Transformers story group? You remember that? Yes, I remember that. Oh, my God. What are they up to these days? They did Bumblebee. But besides that, what are they? I mean.

Bumblebee 2. They'd be working day and night, these people, you know? Yeah, because they had like 15 properties. They're like, we're so ready for this. And then the next one they released was Transformers 5. And it's like, come on. What have you guys really been doing? Yeah, right.

Where's my Insecticons movie? Good question. I was going to say, where's the Combiner movie? But they did that one, didn't they? They did it with two, yeah. They did it with two and it was bad. Where's our good Combiner movie? Give me a good Combiner movie.

Yeah, because I think they hired some people, like Benny offered Weiss to do a trilogy and it was going to be a trilogy originally. Now they're like, they're doing the story treatments for maybe one. So they kind of scaled that right back. Maybe, maybe Feige's there to stand behind those guys and be like, try again.

Maybe do another draft. Yeah. I mean, we rag on the Game of Thrones guys as everybody does, but they only really botched the ending. Like everything else is, I know it's very important, but it's a pretty consistently good show, even when they go off book.

Right. Right at that. Will you ever re-watch Game of Thrones again? No, never. Yeah. Never. In many ways, the ending is the most important part. Yeah, you might be right, Mason.

But anyway, I just thought that was worth mentioning. Okay, so we got Brie Larson and Chris Evans, right? They put their hand up to be like, I'll be Obi-Wan or whatever. Yeah, sure. Is there anybody from the MCU that you think would be a good fit? Sebastian Stan as a young Luke Skywalker. Have you seen those comparisons? Yeah, absolutely.

That's dead on, I'm assuming, with probably some minor to major photoshopping. Yes, yes. I wouldn't mind to see a post-Return of the Jedi, younger Luke Skywalker, actually. Look, he doesn't need the money, but I would like to see what Robert Downey Jr. would do. What kind of beard would he have? Exactly.

Because he spent the last decade being Tony Stark. Put him in another role, is he just going to be Tony Stark in a brown robe? I think he's too big and noticeable. It stands out too much. I think you'd have to go like one of the, not the minor ones, but like a lesser kind of, like you wouldn't go maybe like a Chris Evans or a Chris Hemsworth or anybody like that.

Yeah, you'd go like a Cheadle or even a Sebastian Stan. You know what I mean? Yeah. Anyway, it's just a thought. Because they never go like it's a Star Wars movie and Tom Cruise is in it. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Because even with the biggest star of Phantom Menace was probably Liam Neeson off the back

of like Schindler's List. You know what I mean? Sure. That's what I'm saying. Anyway, have we had enough of that Star Wars news for this week? Who's another person who could be good in that? Evangeline Lilly. Yep.

Paul Rudd ah Paul Rudd Paul Rudd ah ah would Paul Rudd work on any level I think I 100%

he'd be a droid he'd be a droid I was going to say they'd make him the voice of a droid he'd be whatever wacky droid we need at this point

yeah exactly or even like one of the droids that doesn't talk it just goes like they get Paul Rudd to be in and then cock an eyebrow the dude John Ralphio plays is one of the droids that doesn't talk it just goes like they get Paul Rudd to be in they just go and then

cock an eyebrow the dude John Ralphio plays is one of the voices of BB-8 that's right yeah so it's entirely possible

there you go or maybe he'd be a wacky alien because I don't think he could just be like Paul Rudd's a Jedi or a smuggler or whatever

and then again Bill Burr's in The Mandalorian you never know that's true Mason we've got some more DC Crisis crossover event news oh yeah that's right get ready for this who's in The Mandalorian. You never know. That's true. Mason, we've got some more DC Crisis crossover event news.

Oh, yeah, that's right. Get ready for this. Who's in? Birds of Prey's own Ashley Scott is returning as Huntress. That's right. The worst DC property ever made, probably. Ever? Name something worse.

You know what? I can't. Besides some of the mainstream multi-million dollar blockbusters that released in the last decade. I still can't. Besides that, you still can't,illion dollar blockbusters that released in the last decade. I still can't. Besides that, you still can't, right? It's pretty bad though, isn't it? We'll probably revisit this for Caravan of Garbage before the movie.

But yeah, I think it's still good. You know, take a bit from everything. That's okay. Sure, yeah. But now if I see this, I'm like, well, you could get like the Superboy guy. I wonder how much of these characters, because we got some footage of, we got some stills rather of Brandon Routh

as the Kingdom Come Superman. That was my next thing, yeah. And we got Tom Welling and Erica Durant confirmed back. So my question is, are we going to see, are they just going to show up for a battle sequence and be like, we're all coming in to fight the bad guy? Yeah. Because I don't care about that.

No. What I do care about is we show up in the Christopher Reeve, Brandon Routh, Superman universe, which is now the Kingdom Come universe, maybe. Yes. What's it like now? See it. Yeah.

I agree. What's the Smallville universe like now? What's the Birds of Prey? Did he only put the suit on that one time? Yeah, exactly. And he's like, I don't like it, actually. Or maybe he's like, I've been doing this for 10 years and I just stopped yesterday.

I'm sorry. I can't put it on. Actually, it's in the wash. I can't put it on. That's right. Burned up in the atmosphere. I don't know what to tell you. I got a mark on it for the first time.

Yeah. And I put a bit of spit and I rubbed it and I think I made it worse. So I don't know. I can't wear it now. It'd be embarrassing. I'm just going to wear this red polo and these blue pants, if that's okay. Yeah.

Anyway. It's got an S on it for Sam's Tire and Auto Superstore. But you get it. You get it, yeah. It's a clever reference. So you mentioned Brandon Routh. Apparently it is the Superman Returns universe. I hope so. What do you think of the suit? Looks good. It's good. It's got the Superman Returns universe. I hope so.

What do you think of the suit? Looks good. It's good. It's got some high pants on it. The boots are a bit... Yep. I didn't notice until someone pointed it out. But other than that, it looks great.

Again, I'm not particularly enamored of the Superman Returns universe, which I guess is technically the Christopher Reeve universe. But I am excited to see where it goes. Again, because this is the Silver Age Superman, essentially. And is he going to be way more powerful than all the other supermen and supergirls in this universe, or is he not? But they kind of powered him down a little bit, I feel, for Superman Returns.

Yes. Like when he's stopping a plane or whatever, he kind of... Struggles a little. Doesn't just grab it out of the way. You can't because you mash everyone inside. That's true. Yeah, good questions all around. Because when in one of the DC Comics reboots of many years ago at this point,

when it was revealed that Superboy Prime was still around because he got his powers in the Silver Age of comics, he still had the crazy 1970s powers. Right. And he was the villain. And then when he had to fight like the modern day Superman, he was more powerful than all of them. Yes.

Because he had the old school out of continuity powers. Do everything powers. Yes. And then they defeat him. They threw him through a red sun. And they beat him up a lot. Yeah, that'll get him. That'll get him every time.

Didn't see that coming, did you? No, I didn't. I didn't. But speaking of, Michael Rosenbaum talks about how he was asked. Oh, he has been asked now. Yeah, this is his response. You put this out on Twitter. Oh, yes.

Or Instagram. Yes. Because it's for the stars, Mason. It's for the stars and celebrities and influencers. Oh, absolutely. Instagram. I see, right. You get it.

Friends. Many of you have tweeted and asked me about joining the Infinite Okay, first of all, bad move Why? If it's for superstars and influencers You shouldn't have called us friends You should have been like peons Hey losers, you should have said

Put us all down in place That's a good point I've asked me about joining the Infinite Crisis crossover I can't tell you how much it means to me I'll just be straight up about this Warner Brothers called my agents Friday afternoon When I was in Florida visiting my grandfather in a nursing home.

Their offer, no script, no idea what I'm doing, no idea when I'm shooting, basically no money, and the real kick in the ass is we have to know now. My simple answer was pass. I think you can understand why. I hope this answers all your questions. Lovingly, Rosenbaum. He's not in Instagram. He's saying lovingly.

Wow. It's Instagram, not in friendsgram, Michael Rosenbaum he's not it's not Instagram he's saying lovingly wow it's Instagram not in friendsgram Michael Rosenbaum but also good for you for passing on

the thing yeah so I think everybody was pretty understanding of that like yeah why would you

do that I mean they can just paste his face in which ultimately is probably what it's going to be

yeah they'll see the back of his head or something or they'll be like he's in jail that's right like a bald man like a bald man's head like anybody's head Which ultimately is probably what it's going to be. Yeah, they'll see the back of his head or something. Or they'll be like, he's in jail.

That's right. Like a bald man. Like a bald man's head. Like anybody's head. Yeah, so I guess that kind of indicates the money that other people are getting. Probably not that much, I'd imagine. Because he's a pretty major player that you'd want. Yeah, I mean, he was in a lot of seasons of that show.

So, yeah. I think they'll get Lionel Luthor. They might actually, yeah. But he's also Shazam's dad or something. Oh, okay, yeah. Not Shazam's dad. You know what I mean. No?

Savannah's dad. Oh, yeah, that's right. In Shazam, that movie Shazam that came out this year. Exciting times. That to me sounds like you turn up on a day and there's a lineup of villains and you're in the boardroom or whatever. Yeah, maybe, for sure. Yeah, anyway. I mean, this also might be some sort of negotiating tactic.

I mean, this is Instagram, obviously, where you prove how much of a star you are. That's a good point. That's actually, yeah. No, I don't think it would be. No, I think so. I think that's not true. I think everything that's, every public kind of,

we've seen this a lot with Spider-Man, which we'll get to, every kind of public statement is like, it's like a game of chess to see how people are going to react. Fourth dimensional chess. You know it is. And if there's anybody who's good at fourth dimensional chess it's michael rosenbaum because of the influence that he had because he played lex luther for many that's true a dumb version of lex luther on a dumb show it's fine it's it's an okay show isn't it probably probably yeah

uh okay this is from the Hollywood Reporter. As women, our life stages come with unique risk factors, like high blood pressure developed during pregnancy, which can put us two times more at risk of heart disease or stroke. Know your risks. Visit heartandstroke.ca. Jeffrey Wright, who we might know from Westworld. So this is the Hollywood Reporter, not the Holyroodrooroo.

No, this is a different one. This is the one for people. This is the people one, okay. Jeffrey Wright is in talks for Commissioner Gordon in The Batman. Great, I would... Now, we spoke about this earlier. Is this confirmed Commissioner Gordon, or are we just going, well, he seems Commissioner Gordon-y? In talks.

Because I saw his, I think it was on the Twitter or possibly the Instagram. Yeah, right. And this piece of news was put up and Geoffrey Wright put up a little emoji and it had a monocle on it. It was a monocle emoji. But also, isn't that like the hmm emoji? It could be the hmm emoji. But he could be the penguin.

He could be the penguin. Yeah. Yeah. I think, though, he would be a terrific Commissioner Gordon. Yes. I mean, you'd have to get out J.K. Simmons somehow. Somehow. Somehow.

You'd have to pry him away from that role. Oh, my God. He said, you'd take him in my cold, dead hand. Oh, no, I'm out. He's been up on that rooftop for years. And by rooftop, I mean that green screen, like a bunch of packing crates with a green piece of cloth over the top. What do you think about that casting?

It sounds great. I like it. And a lot of people are like, well, that breaks the continuity because it's a different actor. Who cares? It doesn't matter. It's all bad, man. It makes no difference.

Don't worry about it. Don't even worry about it. Also, Joker's not said anywhere or any time or whatever. It's a parallel universe. It's fine. It doesn't even matter. So the other bit of news is that variety has said that jonah hill is uh in negotiations to play a villain they say riddler or penguin apparently he

wants 10 million dollars okay which is uh rob at bat and bat of course he's only getting five million dollars not even half of that and i say to that is jonah hill is absolutely not worth that i think he's a good actor, but I think... What do you think he gets paid for a movie, though? I don't know, but it wouldn't be that, I'd imagine. I reckon it's more than that. But the other thing is, he's not Jack Nicholson in 1989. That's true.

You know? Yeah. So I just don't think... But don't you think he would bring a whole new audience to the Batman franchise? No. Really? No.

I think people like him enough. Yeah. But he's no better than Miles Tell Teller or I don't know. Mr. Fantastic himself. That's right. I think if you got like Seth Rogen or any of that, I don't think he's worth more than Rob Battenbat. Wow.

Yeah. Do you disagree, obviously? I think he gets probably, I think he probably gets. And would that mean top billing as well? I don't know. I mean, how good's his agent? I always assume that these kind of actors get that amount of money anyway. And maybe they do, but also it's probably the first of however many.

Yeah. But again, you look at like the Superman 1978, he's not fucking Brando. You know what I mean? Yeah. You can just turn up and they'll give him like a billion dollars and he'll just read his lines. Yeah. Right.

And so I just don't, I don't think he's in that league. Okay. I think if he was like a Tom Cruise or a Will Smith or something like that. Yeah. But he's not. Right. What if there's a scene where he does that? He does the gift thing.

Right. Like. Oh, very good. He chops at his neck and he's like, no, no, no, no. You can just put that gift in. Put the gift in, I guess I guess yeah I guess that's public domain now yeah I don't know

again I think that's worth a couple of million dollars I think he's a good actor I think he's a good actor but I don't think he's I don't think he's double what

Rob Bat Bat and Bat would be this is very intriguing yeah it's been a long time since you've it's been a long time since you've had

a defined opinion on an actor or a movie property of any kind or really anything that's true. Really anything, yeah. But the main thing I'm saying is it's the comparison thing. If Robert Pattinson was getting the same.

I'm sorry, who? Rob Battenbatt was getting the same and they had the equal amount of screen time and they both had to wear weird, uncomfortable suits or prosthetics. Yes. Absolutely. But he should not get more, is what I'm saying. Yeah, right. But I also feel like the traditionally Batman rogues gallery,

a villain's more interesting than Batman. Yes. You know what I mean? So I think if you have to bring more to the performance than Bat and Bat does, maybe you get more. Do you think he will, though? Bring more? Maybe.

Maybe. Depends what kind of penguin slash whoever else he's going to be. Clayface slash whoever. Do you think he'll be ripped Jonah Hill? Or do you think he'll be? Depends who he's playing. That's true. You either got to get him in.

What if he's a ripped penguin? Yeah, I'll take a ripped penguin. The Gotham penguin was pretty lean, wasn't he? He was tall and lean. Yeah, exactly. And otherwise you've got to squeeze him into the Jim Carrey question mark. To death of these unrealistic expectations for actors playing the Penguin. Exactly.

Danny DeVito. That guy we mentioned already. Guy from Gotham, yep. Burgess Meredith. Burgess Meredith, yeah. We got them all? I think we got them all, yeah. Is that all the live action?

That might not be correct. Let's say it is. Let's say it is. Let's say it is. Okay, so you're saying he's worth it. I'm not saying, or, I don't know. I don't know how much anyone's worth in Hollywood. That's say it is. Let's say it is. Let's say it is. Okay, so you're saying he's worth it. I'm not saying, or, I don't know. I don't know how much anyone's worth in Hollywood. That's true.

You're not a numbers man. No. Go with the heart, the gut. What does your gut tell you? My gut says he's worth $7 million. More than Rob Battenbat. Well, again, I mean, you know, what if he's playing multiple roles? What if he's Tweedledum and Tweedledee?

Yeah, fair enough. It's two roles, but he's not. Okay. What else we got here? Oh, my goodness, Mason. What if he's playing both of the Wonder Twins? Yeah, I guess. But also, I don't want those.

I don't want any of that. Okay, I understand. Are you a fan? Of the Wonder Twins? Yeah. Not especially. There you go, then. Sam Neill, Laura Dern, Jeff Goldblum are all joining Jurassic World 3 officially.

They're from the other Jurassic Park movies. One and two and three and five. Yes. Correct. Not all of them. No, I understand. Sure. I can get into the specifics.

Do you need the specifics? I don't need the specifics, but someone listening does need the specifics. And they're going to tweet at you if you don't specifically say which actors are in which movies. Okay. They're all in the first one, obviously. The second one only has Jeff Goldblum. He's the only actor in that movie. It's all him.

Oh my God. That's why he got paid $10 million. He's worth it. You know he is. The third one, it's Sam Neill with a Laura Dern cameo. Which one has the acrobatics in it? Two. It's two, okay.

And none of them turn up for five. Okay. For four, sorry. They were contracted to be in it. They just all unionized and they're like, we're not showing up for this. We're not doing it. And Jeff Goldblum sits in a boardroom in number five and goes,

well, now you've fucking done it, haven't you? Yeah. If you recall correctly. Yep. I'm going to have to bring my friends back. So I guess it's real world dinosaurs roaming around if that short's anything to go by yeah right i can't but also i look at that short and i'm like we're gonna be looking at those shorts um yeah or a darn short big short they're back they're out of retirement but i look at that i think they're gonna dress exactly the same as they addressed surely not that would be

a massive mistake oh my god oh i think that's like harrison ford wearing the same indetta jones thing before what if what if sam neill's wearing like the same outfit but it's like real trim and like sexy version like it's it not the it's trim khakis not sexy khakis what about the neckerchief how do you make that sexy you open it up yes it's loose yeah it's just a loose neckerchief. Wow. Yeah. Guy's gone rogue. He's the bad boy of the paleontology society. That's right. So, yeah, but seeing that short, I kind of don't know if you need these guys

to come back and play major roles in this. But they all lived through all those. They all lived through, yeah. So why not? Why else would they? I mean, you know. It makes more sense than them having to go back to the island because they never would.

Yeah, absolutely. So it makes more sense from that sense, perspective, I guess. But isn't the star power of Chris Pratt slash Bryce Dallas Howard slash the new John Hammond? He died, didn't he? He died, yeah. The new, new John Hammond. There's got to be he? He died, yeah. The new, new John Hammond. There's got to be another one, right?

Well, there was two. I can definitely make a profitable business model out of dinosaurs roaming the earth randomly and headbutting your caravan or whatever they're doing. That's fine. It's fine. So you're excited for this then? Yes.

As someone who thinks all the Jurassic Park movies are the same. They have the same level of entertainment value. They're all the same. You haven't seen them, Mason. You can't keep saying that. No, I'm going to. Okay. Look, I think we'll see what they do.

Okay. Here we go, Mason. In news of... This is actually... We've rolled right into it. And that is a hot scoop or shot of poop. I was going to say, we've rolled into a big pile of dung. Yes, that's what we've done here.

All right. Okay, so we got an anonymous email. Did we? If people report on this from various media outlets, this is normally the thing that people pick up. I'm not saying it will. Just to be clear, if you report on this, you have to say it's in the Weekly Planet's Hot Scoop or Shot of Poop segment.

Famous segment. It's our famous segment, exactly. And bearing in mind our strike rate is pretty okay. Yeah, it's actually not bad. From what I can remember. But it's also based on mostly anonymous emails where we go, yeah, all right, we'll see what happens here. Okay, so this is, again, anonymous.

It says, I have a very strong source and it's the new Suicide Squad lineup and who's playing who. Okay, sure. I have no idea whether this is true or not. Now we took a shot at this a while back. In a video last week. Oh yeah. So here we go.

Do I need to read out the obvious ones? As in Margot Robbie, Harley Quinn. The returning ones, no. I'll just do them all. Okay. Margot Robbie, Harley Quinn. Idris Elba as Vigilante, not the cowboy one. Okay, the Vigilante Vigilante one, okay cool. John Cena as Peacigilante, Vigilante one. Okay, cool. John Cena as Peacemaker, which some people have mentioned.

Joel Kinnaman as Rick Flagg. Michael Rooker as Savant or Savant. Oh, is he? I don't know who that is. I can't remember who that is. I'm going to look that up. Look it up. Okay.

David Dashmalchian as Polka Dot Man. Oh, we picked that one, I think. And by we, somebody else did. Danielle Malkior as Polka Dot Man. Oh, we picked that one, I think. And by we, somebody else did. Danielle Malkior as Ratcatcher 2. So like the second maybe daughter of. Daughter of Ratcatcher, yep. Or whatever. Steve Agee as King Shark, which I think we might have mentioned.

Nathan Fillion as the Detachable Kid or Arm Fall Off Boy. Who's the Detachable Kid? Nathan Fillion. Okay, right. I like that. I also like that character. Oh, Savant is a Birds of Prey

Antagonist Great He's kind of He's one of those guys Who's kind of He's sort of a generic Street brawler guy But he's like a genius

But he's also prone to Like mental imbalance He looks like the cop From Mortal Kombat 3 Striker Yes he does Flula Borg As Javelin

Pete Davidson Dead Dead Yeah Pete Davidson As Blackguard striker yes he does yeah uh flula borg as as javelin okay pete david dead yeah pete davidson as blackguard pete davidson from snl uh yeah okay uh mayling uh as mongol okay yeah m-o-n-g-u-l g-a-l i don't know who that is yeah and sean gunn as weasel CGI, which is like a big Weasel man. Okay, cool. Also, they mentioned that Calendar Man is in there somewhere too. Okay then. So there you go. Alright. Again, this is completely unverified. This could be a lie

or a trick. Well, I mean, that could be a trick but bearing in mind, what lends it some credence but also some revival. Some revival. Thank you. Is that... You don't have to thank me for that. I shall. And I shall thank you again, sir,

that Idris Elba isn't Bronze Tiger, as we've all assumed, but Vigilante. Not the cowboy one. Not the cowboy one, the different one. Okay. There you go. That's a twist and a half. Anyway, we probably won't know whether this is true for a while.

It's filming at the moment, but there you go. Remember. Our famous segment. Famous segment, hot scoop or shot of poop. And if people don't put that in, it'd be great if people could just remind people of that. Okay. Big, big, big Spider-Man news. Ooh.

This is huge. Oh, actually, I know this one. All right. Collider have said that the Morbius Scribes, Matt Sazama and Burke Sharpless are writing the Madam Web movie. Oh, I see what you've done. I see what you've done here. You're going to thank me?

No. You said you'd thank me and thank me again. Not for this. Not for this garbage. Not for this bloody second-rate pullback and reveal. No, sir. No, sir. No, sir. So what do you think about this multiverse thing?

That's what Madam Web is. She sits in a web and goes, I see everything. There's so many Spider-Man. I'm a blind lady. I'm psychic. I don't care about this. She's like psychic Aunt May. I don't care about Madam Web.

Yeah, but the idea is to link a multiverse and create a multiverse. I think that would be the takeaway from this. Do you agree that's the takeaway? It might be the takeaway. Both of us think it's the takeaway. Anyway, I wonder if it ties into this, though, the real news of the week. Here we go. Does he have a double?

Does he have a double pullback? Because if he doesn't, this is very disappointing for me, the co-host, and you, the listener. because you were looking for like a better joke in a way yes well you're not getting one here it comes though because this is the that's the that's the this is the he's he's he's zigged and and we're expecting to mosaic so here we go here's another joke one this is gonna be great there's a new trailer for star wars fallen order oh my, he's done it again. We talked about it before the show, whether to include it.

You said if it comes up, I'm bringing it up. Not only did he zig when we expected him to zag, he zigged to an entirely different franchise. Yeah, that's right. Wow, this guy's good. I'm one of the best. Anyway, just quickly, what did you think of that trailer? I kind of like it.

Looks good. It looks... Have you played Control? You borrowed Control as well. I did, yes. What did you think? I trailer i kind of like it looks good it looks looks have you played control you borrowed control what do you think i like it a lot um i feel like because you like the game but you don't you are vehemently opposed to anything approaching a storyline or no no in video games when it's two people being like what do you think of this well the thing has escaped there's a new there's a virus or there's a, there's something in the village and you got to whatever, whatever the thing is. Yeah. A virus in a

village. A virus in a village. It's a V and a V. We're in a V and V situation and it's not as sexy as you'd think. So that, but, but, but you like the story is what you say. Yeah. I would much rather see it as probably a movie than a video game. Like I like the, the, you know, it's... Mechanics are good enough. The mechanics are pretty good and solid. I think they're really good mechanics, yeah. I think, though, that, I don't know, for me,

it's one of those games that kind of stymies me at the boss fights. Like, I don't want to have to run this through, like, I don't want to have to play this ten times until I defeat the boss. Yeah, right. Just let me, just make him real easy. Let me go through. Like, I like the universe.

Yeah. And I... You like weird, blocky pyramids. I like weird, blocky pyramids. And there's kind of... I like the universe yeah and I like weird blocky pyramids like weird blocky pyramids and there's kind of I like the fact that this is a real world that ostensibly operates

on the rules of a dream world yes I think that's fun like there's a not too many spoilers for Control but there's a moment where you you find a light switch

that sends you to a motel yes like it teleports you to a motel yes I haven't finished the game yet but are they more like that or is it just probably i didn't get through it all right interesting but i would say almost certainly okay cool i kind of i'm glad you like it yeah and you also like jedi fallen order i did i'm so looking forward to it please there's a moment in

this trailer where you see the main character who sort of tumbles over a stormtrooper and then like swats him yes with a lightsaber or kicks him or whatever. Do you think that's an in-game finisher or do you think that's a cut scene? Yeah, no, I think it's one of those like in Arkham, like a finishing. Yeah, right, right. Because that looked pretty good. It looked pretty good to me too. Anyway, Spider-Man's back in the MCU.

You thought I was going to say it back again. There's going to be a movie in 2021 which will wrap up the everyone knows who Spider-Man is storyline. So he's getting a Spider-Man 3, his very own, and he's getting a team-up movie of some sort? An MCU 1. Okay, cool. Whatever that is, whatever that may be.

They'd have to probably make good use of it. But it's interesting for this Sony one that Sony are making, Disney are putting in 25% of the money and will get 25% of the profits. So there you go. And Kevin Feige will be producing. I thought you were going to say too, they're putting in 25% of the money and they're getting 25% of their money back.

What a steal. What a bad deal for them. So yeah, and Feige's back, which is interesting. I wrote pod-ducing here, but I meant to write producing. I'm going to fix that even though no one will ever see this. Mate, you've got pods in the brain. No, you're not wrong. So I'm not surprised at all and good i think to wrap up this story yeah uh they said that once this is done it's it's kind of over but again i wouldn't be surprised if they

extend it or it's over for a little bit and then it comes back and whatever yeah some people have also been saying that uh it might also loosely link to the Venomverse and the Morbius universe and the Adam Webb and whatever. So I wonder whether it's get the Spider-Man done, introduce the Spider-Man multiverse, and then he goes off and does his multiverse. Yeah, right. And look, I have been down in the past in the idea of introducing... But he's back. He's back, ladies and gentlemen.

Introducing, thank you, introducing Spider-Man and Venom separately, and then Venom doesn't have this antagonistic relationship to Spider-Man. But this is what we've got. This is what we've got, I guess. So let's just run with it. I'm sure they can find another way to get Spider-Man and Venom to hate each other. Yeah. Good.

I couldn't think of a single example. No, you're right. But I was going to say, I don't really have anything else to say because we've kind of talked every possibility to death and now one of those has come to fruition that's true yeah and there you go are you excited or not excited i'm excited i know there are people out there who are like well disney shouldn't own every single thing and i'm glad that actually that disney doesn't have spider-man at all yes i know but this is a really good version of spider-man also they still don't own it, so I don't mind Sony.

Exactly. And at the very least. If one multi-billion dollar company gets one over another. At the very least, I'd like to see the cliffhanger at the end of Far From Home resolved. Yeah. I mean, after that, I guess I'm fine with them spinning it off into its own universe, but it would be nice. I still think they're going to do a live action.

Spider-Verse? Tobey Maguire and Eric Seymour. I would bet my bottom dollar. I mean, after the incredible success of Crisis on Infinite Earths, Arrowverse, absolutely they're going to do that. Let me see the back of Lex Luthor's head. Yes! So good.

Who's that brown-headed man? Whose back of the head is that? It's Tobey Maguire, probably. He didn't agree to be here, but we is that? It's Toby Maguire, probably. He didn't agree to be here, but we know who that is. We get it, yeah. He's delivering pizzas on that little bike still. Still for some reason. He's 67 years old.

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Ooh, that's exciting. It's very exciting. What are you going to be doing in New Zealand? I can't tell you, Mason. It's a secret, but just going on holiday. And I can't tell you when because people rob my house. But even then, don't rob my house because I'm having people stay here. Or else I'll find you.

I'll beat you up, Mason, if it's you. Okay? You've covered all the bases. Or have you? You haven't covered one of the bases, but's you. Okay. You've covered all the bases. Or have you? You haven't covered one of the bases, but I'm not going to tell you which of the bases it is. Why would you? Then I'm going to rob you. Anyway, whether you're going to New Zealand or you're staying at home being a weird shut-in.

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Great. Joker's coming up hot and fast, Mason. Oh, my God. We've both seen it. Like a hot, fast delivery by a man who's Spider-Man on a little bike. Correct. Yes. That's a great callback to before the ad.

People still remember it. Of course they do. We've seen it. We have seen it. We can't talk about it. I mean, we could talk about it. Yeah. But nobody else has seen it.

So what's the point? Yeah, we won't. We'll save it for next week. How good is a conversation where you're like, oh my God, have you seen this movie? And somebody's like, no. And then you're like, I'm going to tell you all about it anyway.

That's right. I've cornered you at this party. So here we go. We're not going to do it though. I'm not going to do it. We'll talk about it anyway. That's right. I've cornered you at this party, so here we go. We're not going to do it, though. We're not going to do it. We'll talk about it next week, definitely. I'd be very interested to know how it's going to play in general. Yeah.

Because we have so many thoughts. We saw it with, we ran into our friend Broden from Auntie Donna. Broden Kelly. Thank you. The best. From the Auntie Donna podcast and the Auntie Donna sketch group. One of the greats. And we watched it at the screening, and we all had a completely different reaction to

this movie. Yes, that's right. No spoilers, but different. Make of that what you will. Yeah. Ask Broden what he thinks on Twitter. Ask Broden on Twitter. Yes.

That's right. I think he's Broden Kelly is my name on Insta. Yep. I'm not sure what he is on Twitter. Who cares? Just kidding. Got him. No, it's Auntie Donna boys.

Oh yeah. So it's part of that. Yeah. Okay. So they're all under that. Excellent stuff! No, it's Auntie Donna Boys. Oh, yeah. I was part of that. Okay, so they're all under that. Excellent stuff. What have we got here? Okay, so this week we thought we're going to talk about edgy movies. Movies that came out at a time where people were like, oh, my God, this is holding up a mirror to society and maybe also to me.

This movie's dangerous. You know? Yes. Yeah. So we thought we'd run through a bunch of them. We both went away and watched similar but mostly different movies that kind of fall into this category. Some of the ones I watched don't comically fall into this category.

Okay. Some have aged better than others. Even some of the bad ones still have some good moments. Do you want to open with Fight Club? I think we both saw Fight Club. That's the biggest one that that people had recommended i haven't seen this in a long time i think a good spoilers for everything i think so i think a good yardstick for is this movie edgy does it appear in like a first year uni students dorm yes like on on a poster on their wall exactly and this is yeah this is a very oh my god this this is a 20 year old movie as well yeah right it's crazy anyway so there is a lot of like

you're just a slave to Ikea and society and whatever uh huh and that that shit is like okay we get it

but I still think this does hold a mirror up to society in a lot of ways and there are some things about it which are still relevant

to today and it's like the fact that a whole bunch of real life fight clubs have sprung up that's right I think number one in a lot of ways. Yeah. And there are some things about it which are still relevant to today. And it's like – The fact that a whole bunch of real-life fight clubs have sprung up. That's right. I think number one. That's part of it. But I think there is that thing of like the role of men in – and Claire and I talk about this on Suggestible, my other podcast,

in society like it's – Well, maybe I talked about it on my other podcast too. What is it? A big dumb idiot sits in a room by himself? Yeah. Yeah. People love love it you know why because it i've found the biggest uncatered to audience which is big dumb idiots sitting in a room by themselves we're rising up y'all do your murder society that's right yeah good yeah so

but i think this so there is if you put aside like the punching and the edginess and the haircuts and the jackets. And Jared Leto. Yes. Who sprung up a lot this week for me because I watched a lot of movies from this era. That is, make small caveats in, yeah. But I think a lot of people miss the point of this. Yeah. It's been 20 years of people missing the point. Yeah, because I think there is something to be said here

about the way men in particular roles have changed in society and they kind of feel like what even, we don't have a war, what do I do? And also the...

Not just we don't have a war, it's other things. Yeah, I know, but the idea especially that it's about a whole bunch of men who are unhappy in society and they just started these fight clubs and started beating the hell out of each other yes and it led to disastrous consequences and then the takeaway from real

people in our world was like we should start some fight clubs yeah that'd be very that would be great yeah definitely gonna have a good outcome for everyone yeah so i like the idea of like role shifting and you know even in like a marriage, it's not necessarily just. In our marriage. In our marriage, Mason. It's not like one goes to work and the other one stays home and looks after the house and who looks after this. I mean, in this instance, I do go to work and he stays home

and looks after the house. That is true. But it's different. I think it's, despite being 20 years old, these are still questions that are coming up. Yeah, right. And that are still relevant. Again, and it's still got cool fights and stuff i guess and it'll be like enjoy your starbucks

coffee ticket there's some very there's one i i took a i took a photo i think of the one uh thing i saw when i was watching it and it was they did some the the project mayhem team go out and they do assorted vandalism. A big smiley face. And one is they vandalise an Environmental Protection Agency sign so it says you can use old motor oil to fertilise your lawn. And I'm like, oh, my God, that's going to trick so many normies in using oil on their lawn. And then they go to a blockbuster

and they demagnetise a bunch of videotapes. Oh, my God. Imagine if you get home Father of the Bride 2 and it doesn't evenes. Oh, my God. Imagine if you get home Father of the Bride 2 and it doesn't even work. Oh, my God. People are only one bad rental of Father of the Bride 2 away from chaos and anarchy. Did you know that?

You know it. I think the main takeaway from this movie is we can't... It's also very stylish and it's very kind of like... I mean, it's David Fincher, man. Yeah, for sure, yeah. But my main takeaway is don't piss in people's food. Yeah, that doesn't hold up at all. It's not.

Don't do it. Who are you railing against, really, when you're pissing in people's food? Yeah. But no, I think that there is absolutely still merit in this movie, but it's still one of those things where. If you're going to piss in people's food, what you should do. Tell them. You should go, if you're the waiter, and you should say,

excuse me, are you here at this rich, fancy restaurant? Because you are yourself rich and fancy. Or maybe you've saved up all year. Maybe you've saved up all year. Because if that's the case, I'm not going to piss in your food. Yeah. And then you obviously tell them the truth. Yeah.

Now, how do you feel going into this knowing that the big reveal, obviously, that the narrator and Tyler Durden are the same person? I always knew. Did you always knew? Someone told me before I'd seen it. So it doesn't make a difference to me. Right, okay. What about you?

As an adult, how do you feel? Like even just re-watching it. Were you like... It's way more obvious. Yeah, right. If I'd have seen this now and I didn't know, I would have figured it out. It's only because of what's come since.

Yeah, right. The mechanic, the wheels turning. And I'd be looking for it as well in the movie now, yeah. And I think these days you'd be, the narrator would go, hey, we've got the same briefcase, and most people would be like, same person. Yeah, exactly. Same person.

What's the twist here? They're probably the same person. I mean, there's some movies that I've seen recently which do this, like, a similar thing. We'll talk about it another day, though, I'm sure. We'll talk about it another day, yeah. So anyway, I think it still holds up. Yeah.

And it's got some great jackets. It's got some great haircuts. It's got some pretty good fight scenes. It's got a video game based on it where you can play as Fred Durst. These are all things that you could check out about. I think we've talked about this because he watched, there's a Limp Bizkit lyric where he talks about how many times he's watched Fight Club.

It's like hundreds of times or something. And they're like, all right, we'll put him in there. Did you know there's not one but two follow-up comic books? Yes. I've read two. I haven't read three. Yeah, because three is ongoing. Three is currently happening this year.

But they're ongoing from the book? Because I think they're written by, what's his name? The guy who wrote Fire Club. Chuck. Chuck Palahniuk. I think he has a big hand in it. Or he might even just write them. No, he writes them, yeah.

Okay, there you go. So, yeah. But I think they, do they or are they not? Because the book, okay, specifically, the book and the movie have different endings. That's true. At the end, he gets arrested in the book and he's in a mental asylum. Yes. In the movie, he does blow up all the banks and whatever.

And I kind of like the movie version better, I think. I think it's like, wow, this is, they really kind of did it. It's kind of that kind of. Yeah, I think. I think it's like, wow, they really kind of did it. It's kind of that kind of. I think these days they'll be like, good on him. And also the book doesn't. They'll be like, good on him for blowing up all the bones. Well, as long as you don't kill anyone. And also maybe don't.

I mean, they cut off a lot of people's balls. That's true. Well, we don't see any of that. No, that's true. Every attempted ball cutting off Is an unsuccessful ball cutting off Or a fake ball cutting off That's true The book also doesn't have the Pixie song at the end

It's true, yeah It's such a good song Sometimes if you get him to sign a copy He'll write And then the Pixie Then where is my mind place Anyway, great stuff What do you want to go to next?

I re-watched The Professional, or as it's called in most parts of the world, Leon the Professional. I haven't seen this in a long time. It's weirder than you'd think. No, I can imagine. Well, it came out in 94. Yep.

And I guess at the time. Natalie Portman's like 12. She's 12, I think. Yeah. And I think at the time. Do you want to explain what it is first? Okay, so it is. Jean Reno plays, he's an Italian hitman.

Godzilla's own. Godzilla's own. And he's a cleaner. He's Italian? He's Italian. I was surprised too, but he is Italian, yeah. Okay. I guess people won't notice.

That's right. He's the Frenchest Italian I've ever seen. That's probably true. Basically, he's a cleaner. He they probably didn't. He's the Frenchest Italian I've ever seen. That's probably true. Basically, he's a cleaner. He's a long-time killer. He kills people. He's a long-time listener, first-time cleaner. Exactly.

He kills people for money. Love it. That's what they do. And he has to take in, well, he doesn't have to take in, but he chooses to take in the daughter of sort of a drug mule. Her family, her father of a drug mule. Her family, sort of her father's a drug mule and he and his wife and Natalie Portman's other siblings were all killed in a murder situation.

Oh, no. A crooked DEA agent, Gary Oldman, chewing so much scenery. He did a lot of chewing back in his day, didn't he? Oh, he did, yeah. Yeah, not as much now. Anyway, Johnynolds to take her in and it's uh but is he like i don't even know if i'm man enough for this or whatever yeah because he's kind of like uh he's kind of like a oh you know he's kind of stunted growth you know uh emotionally yeah and maybe a little bit intellectually it's oh really i don't remember that element but also you probably don't remember uh all the creepy bits where uh natalie portman's character falls in love with him yeah and he's

like hey we should kiss at this restaurant and stuff and i'm like i don't remember that at all yeah that a lot of that and she dresses as marilyn monroe at one point what and it's a happy birthday mr president yeah what yeah that happens in it uh she tells him that she's she's in love with him. And I didn't know this at the time, but Luc Besson was married to a 16-year-old, the director of the movie. So this is Luc Besson.

Fifth element. Yeah, who made The Transporter, which is also like I'm a hit man with a heart of gold and I'm looking after this person who I found in the trunk of my car, but I'm also emotionally stunted or whatever. That's one of the transporters, isn't it? I think so, yeah. At least the first one. At least the first one.

Yeah. There you go. So would you say it holds up or is it too edgy for you, even these days? What's the edgy element, the weird relationship? Now it is, yeah. Now it is, yeah. I think at the time I'm just like, oh, my God.

Guns. This is so, like, you know, it's an American film, but I'm like, oh, my God, this feels like such a foreign film. At the time, my teenage frame was like, this is so possibly French. It's so Mediterranean in some way. I can smell the pasta slash whatever French people eat. Baguettes, croissants. Thank you.

Frogs, snails. Thank you. Each other. Yep. Striped shirts. Yes, that's right. Ber you. Frogs. Snails. Thank you. Each other. Yep. Striped shirts. Yes, that's right. Berets. Mimes.

Strings of garlic. Anyway, at the time I'm like, because, you know, the action was so stylish. It was, yeah. It didn't feel like an American film. You know, there were shades of grey to it because this guy was kind of morally ambiguous. You have two shades of? Yes, this guy was kind of morally ambiguous and what have you. But now I'm like, this is

still edgy, but not for the ways that I thought of at the time. Okay, so is it weird? Because if I recall correctly, Luke Besson's character doesn't see her that way. John Reno. John Reno, whatever. Luke Besson sees her that way. But does John Reno's character see it? No, he doesn't. Yeah, that's what I thought.

He's like, no, thank you. But here's the thing, though. She's like, oh my God, we should, we should make a, make a love like the Italians or possibly the French. And he's like, no, because when I was a younger man, I fell in love with a woman and then she died. And now that's it for me. Oh, okay. Right. It isn't like, because this is creepy and weird and you're 12.

It's like, because I've had trouble with love in the past. He would have done it. That's what you're saying. Yeah, I don't know. Do you think that's an element of like that's just a story that he tells her to make her feel better? No, no. Because it's corroborated by some of the other characters.

Oh, that's great. But anyway, the action's pretty solid. Is he in a wall at one point or she's in a wall? I remember someone being in a wall. Everybody's in a wall at some point. There's a shootout and everyone's in a wall. There's a shootout and everyone's in a wall at one point or she's in a wall? Remember someone being in a wall. Everybody's in a wall at some point. There's a shootout and everyone's in a wall. There's a shootout and everyone's in a wall. Yeah.

There's an extended sequence where she wants to become a cleaner like him. Yeah. And so he teaches kind of the ropes. And one of his methods is he puts some chewing gum. Like you go to an apartment and you put some chewing gum over the little looky hole. Yes. And then you knock on the door and you convince them to open the door

and they've got the chain going across. And then you've got a set of bolt cuts and you cut the chain and then you get in. And there's an extended like montage sequence where they do it to like six people in a row. And I'm like, surely that wouldn't work every time. I certainly wouldn't open the door. So the people are like, why can't I see out? People don't out people don't ask no they do oh and what does he say they're like

oh it's so dark out here yeah the lights have gone or whatever okay right gotcha but surely at that point you just kick the door in okay yeah very good i'm saying maybe luke basson didn't do as much extensive research into being a hitman as he did the age of consent in france which is 15 apparently well then but it's still weird you did the right thing yeah right not cool though yeah i watched falling down i forgot to watch falling down i've seen it recently i don't know if i've seen it ever in full but i have now yeah uh okay so it's about like commercialism and modern society and why can't why can't i get breakfast at a certain time okay but it's what is it really

about it's really just about some prick yeah for sure but he also has med but i think you could put that aside and be i think people some people i mean it's i don't want to be one of those guys like well actually it means this or whatever but the way i interpret it is this is a man with mental health issues he's having an actual breakdown he's not a hero he's a lunatic for sure so yeah he is a man with mental health issues. He's having an actual breakdown. He's not a hero. He's a lunatic. For sure. So he's a man who used to design missiles for the Defense Department. Yes, which is revealed at the end.

But he got fired. But he's maintaining to the people in his life, who I think is maybe just his mother, that he still goes to work every day. And he still sits in traffic. So it's also directed by Batman and Robin's own Joel Schumacher. But it's got a very comical opening scene where he's, it's not supposed to be,

where he's sitting in traffic and he's sweating and there's a fly buzzing around him and horns are honking around him. People are shouting at each other and there's yuppies on phones and there's kids screaming on a school bus. And so he just gets out of his car and he runs into the woods or whatever. Which would make more sense if he still had a job to go to. He's packing it all in, but he doesn't. He's an unemployed man.

Maybe he was going to the unemployment office. Well, yeah, maybe. But it's also, it's unintentionally funny in moments because it's- I think it's intent, isn't it intentionally? No, no, there is intentionally funny moments, but it's also unintentionally funny in terms of like, you think this is kind of edgier than it is. Yeah, right. And it's just kind of stupid.

That's why we're here, to determine whether some of this stuff is still as edgy as you think. I thought it would be kind of edgier and funnier than what I found. Because I think there actually is something here about this character that is interesting. But it's not that he's shooting up a burger joint because he can't get breakfast anymore. Because I think some people go, yeah, imagine going into a fast food restaurant and just telling them how it is and being like, why can't I have all day breakfast? It's like you're just being a fuckhead.

Like it's not the person behind the counter's fault that breakfast ends at 11. Exactly, and there's no conversation there. Like there should have been like somebody being like, hi, they're getting paid five bucks an hour. They don't have any control over this. Exactly. So having watched it as a grown-up recently, do you feel like there is a knowingness to that?

Do you think it is? I think there is to some extent. So it isn't like, okay, well, sometimes you are like this guy and you're so hard done by in life that you just have to lose your mind. Or is it more a case of like, well, this guy's... I think it might be a bit of that. But it's interesting because it starts like he goes into a convenience store and he wants to get a Coke or whatever and he has to spend a certain amount of money

or the guy doesn't have change. I can't remember exactly what it is. And he's like, I'm only going to pay bloody 55 cents for this because in 1955 it was, now it's 80 cents and this is outrageous or whatever. And I'm like, 80 cents for a cookie, that's pretty bloody good. But I'm also like, that's how time works, you fucking idiot. Like it's not worth 55 cents anymore because it's not 1955. Idiot, it's the 90s.

So this movie isn't railing against society for inflation. This is a movie that is railing against a man who is who doesn't understand that the world is moving on. Yes. And there's a moment where the guy thinks he's being robbed because he starts smashing up the store with his baseball bat or whatever and Michael Douglas is like, you think I'm a thief?

You're the bloody thief and whatever and it's like even if you didn't smash up the store, you are a thief because you're not paying him the amount of money for the Coke, which the Coke is. You are a thief. He is, that's true. But I think when the movie goes on and there is the revelation

that this is just a sad, broken man, it becomes more, I can't imagine how you could watch this and not be like, oh, this isn't about a cool guy rallying against society. This is just a guy who's just broken for multiple reasons. But doesn't he shoot something with a rocket launcher? Yes, he does. And that's cool. It doesn't make any sense because he fires it down but it also manages to go horizontal

down through the drain. Also, it's mentioned in the movie that that's a heat seeker. It's not. It's just a dumb rocket. It doesn't make any sense. It doesn't make any sense. Ridiculous. But there's also, interesting because there's the Robert Duvall character in this, and he's a cop, and his wife, they lost a baby when he's about to retire, and his wife's like, when are you going to come home and retire?

Because we want to move to this community so we can be safe together. And she's worried that she doesn't want him out on the beat so something bad happens to him, which I can understand, because, you know, it's LA or whatever, and there's crime and et cetera. But his arc is that at the end of the movie towards the end when she's like, why aren't you home yet? And when he's trying to track down Michael Douglas where he's just like, hey, shut your fucking mouth.

I'll be home when I'm ready and make my dinner. And that's like the Robert Duvall arc. And I'm like, that woman is also, has been through, like she's lost a child too. And the only reason she wants you to retire and not be a street cop is because she doesn't want you to die also. It is like, shut your fucking mouth. Right.

Where's my dinner when I get home or whatever. I feel like both of these characters, both Robert Duvall's character and Michael Douglas' character would benefit from maybe a smaller version of them, like a sidekick kind of character. Who'd be like, well, you know she's only trying to help. Yeah. You know these people are only getting paid $5 an hour and they do not control the timing of the breakfast menu.

Yeah. I mean, can you imagine a falling down these days with an all-day breakfast menu at McDonald's? What would you rail against? You'd be like, I've got to get some hotcakes. They'd be like, you can get them. It's fine. Don't even worry about it.

We've got some in the back. They're very reasonably priced as well. So I kept the prices artificially low to cut out the competition. Yes. I know the, the initial leader of the proud boys as well, dresses intentionally like Michael Douglas is falling down character, which I think is hilarious because that character is not what you think it is.

Yeah. It's a man struggling with mental health who America, or this version of America, has failed him, or the version that he thinks existed doesn't exist. Yeah. So I just think that's kind of like you picked the wrong outfit here. For sure. So anyway, I've got a bit of trivia, though, before we move on.

You should wear rags covered in poop, head of the Proud Boys. That's my political stance. Whoa. Yeah, that's right. You'll say anything. I will say anything. So I love this bit of trivia. Also, everyone's really,

it's really well acted. It's like Michael Douglas is great. Robert Duvall, he's always excellent as well. Anyway, it was director Joel Schumacher's idea for the crew, for the crew cut

that Michael Douglas has in the movie. Combined with the glasses that he wore, he was almost unrecognizable. No, he wasn't. It's Michael Douglas. It's clearly Michael Douglas.

You'd never see him and go, who is that? Jeez, that looks familiar. It's Michael Douglas. Anyway, what a movie. What else did you watch? I watched, let's see, I watched, Vanessa on Twitter suggested I watch Wild Things. I've never seen it.

Oh, my God. I know about the scene or whatever. It was the talk of the school yard. It's not even like, but I mean, there's not even that, but I mean, there's a three-way in it, I guess. Yeah. But I mean, you know, these days, oh, my God, it's so tame. Yeah.

It's such a tame situation. It's called Tame Things. Oh, my God. Or Where the Wild Things Aren't. Oh, my goodness. Yeah. Or Bill Murray's in this one. Is he?

Yeah, Bill Murray's in it. He's a lawyer. Okay. It's about they trick a teacher or something? It's a very elaborate, it's a very, very quite elaborate sort of scheme involving, ultimately it involves like multiple people, some of whom are involved in some levels of the scam and some who aren't. And there's crosses and double crosses. Is it a good narrative?

Yeah, it's pretty good. Okay. Because I feel like there was an era of like teen edgy kind of stuff like this and Cruel Intentions. Yeah, right. I mean, Cruel Intentions doesn't have a weird tame threesome or whatever, I assume. Yeah.

So would you say this is – it's not edgy or it's just like an okay film I think it's a pretty solid film okay I think maybe I mean maybe the the lasciviousness

sort of undercuts that it's actually a pretty good kind of thriller okay right that being said I haven't

I rewatched it and it kind of you know there were some good surprises involved because I couldn't really remember the plot from when I watched it last time. Sure.

Because all the blood rushed out of my brain. Onto the floor? Yeah, onto the floor, exactly. Whoa! Yeah, right? You need to do something about your feet. No, no, no, I shan't. But I wonder if I,

I'd have to re-re-watch it to determine whether the plot makes sense. Because there's so many like, you know, there'll be a scene where one character will betray the other character and then it'll be revealed that that first character knew all along. Oh, okay. You have to be like, whoa. And it's also one of those moments I'd imagine

where two people are in a room by themselves and they're acting, even though they both know the story, but they're still acting and there's nobody there. Yeah, yeah. Like that Now You See Me movie or whatever the hell. Yes, exactly. Does that make sense? Yeah.

So you highly recommend the movie Wild Things. I think it's worth a rewatch. Well, wow. I just assumed that it was crap. Like I'd always just thought it was a crap film. Yeah, right. With just that one moment in that people talk about. So maybe I'll check it out.

I think it's pretty solid. You have to buy into the idea that young, what's his name, Matt Dillon? I do buy that. That he is like, he's the sexiest man in the world. He's just radiating sexual magnetism. I can believe that. Okay, good. I always just think of him as his character in There's Something About Mary.

That's exactly, The Big Teeth, right? Yeah, The Big Teeth, exactly. I started to watch that house that Jack built the other day, you know, where he's a serial killer. And I'm like, eh, I'll turn it off. I was like, yeah, serial killers, I get it. I think I just watched Mindhunter. I'm like, I've had enough of this for a moment.

Yeah. Yeah, there you go. Well, you know what I watched? What did you watch? It's kind of a different kind of edgy, but I watched Reality Bites. I've never seen Reality Bites. Which is the Ben Affleck.

That redefined cinema in some way, didn't it? Certainly. It's one of those things where it's Ben Stiller. I know, but what I'm saying is at the time people were like, this is, oh my God, you've never seen anything like this in cinema before. How do you feel about that in the year of our Lord 2019? Well, okay. I've written here because I wrote three notes on it.

The first one is there's truth to what they're saying about the real world, how it's like it's hard to get a job and you don't have enough experience or you've got too much experience and whatever. You can't get experience without a job and you can't get a job without experience. And that all sucks and whatever. And then I wrote there's a moment where they meet. Winona Warida's character meets the Ben Stiller yuppie character because he's on the cell phone in the car next to him.

And he's like, we've got to get this deal done or whatever. She's just out of college and she's cool and young and free. And she flicks a cigarette into his car and causes a car accident. And I'm like, that's very uncool. Like that's not. But at the time, was that meant to be like go you i guess it was yeah you got that yuppie so good and the last thing i just wrote is i hate this what is the plot of reality okay so it's i i didn't end up hating it entirely but it's basically it's some

gen x's ethan hawke uh winona rider uh what's her name the comedian she's from um mystery men the comedian from Watchmen Janine Garofalo yeah Janine Garofalo Steve Zahn okay and they're basically they're out of college

also full credit to you for being able to pronounce Winona Ryder correctly every time why because I go with Winona Ryder every time but that's not her

that's her slightly wider cousin okay with a different but similar name yeah they're cousins I get it you idiots yeah

so i kind of i understand because i think that's still something true of today where you leave college and it's hard to get a job and you're broke and everybody goes your job's a joke you're broke your love life's doa yeah very good so but then it's also and then she meets like the ben still a character who's he's like this yuppie dude. See, I always thought, based solely on the poster, that he was one of them. No, because Ethan Hawke's like this cool, edgy... You better believe it. He's Kurt Cobain, right? Oh my God.

He's got a cardigan? Is he wearing a cardigan? No, but it's revealed later that he... That he owns a cardigan. That he owns a cardigan. No, it's revealed later in the movie because he's like a slacker and he's getting his smoking weed and whatever. Oh, my God.

He just won't stand for society or whatever. He won't fall for any of those traps. I understand. He's got a goatee. He's got the traditionally thought goatee. And yet it's revealed later that he is in like a 90s alt-rock band. And I'm like, of course he is. He's in Temple of the Dog, whatever that band was called.

Whatever band in that era would be called probably temple of the dog almost certainly and and so i feel kind of like and the ben stiller character is kind of he's almost like the villain which but he just seems like a guy who's just trying to get by and make stuff so why are they at odds what because of the car because he's he's like well they start dating when i write him ben still, but she's in love with Ethan Hawke. And he's all like, my mother died and nothing means anything or whatever. This is Ethan Hawke. It's Ethan Hawke.

And so she's attracted to that. And Ben Stiller's like, you make fun documentaries. This is like the song Two Princes come to life. It's exactly like the song Two Princes. Oh, my God. I wonder what came first. We can probably look it up. But I bet it's Two Princes like the song we can probably look it up but i bet it's two princes the song man i was gonna say it's deep blue something but it's not spin doctors yeah yeah so yeah so it's um why am i even explaining this movie i don't even know because it sounds so good yeah because

you didn't entirely hate it yeah this is what we're here to do but even though ben ben i keep saying ben affleck Ben Stiller directed it, he seems like an okay guy, like this yuppie character. He's not a bad guy. He's just a different guy who has a job as opposed to Ethan Hawke's character who doesn't want a job. And Ethan Hawke's character is kind of terrible and Ben Stiller's character is also kind of terrible

and they both think they know what's best for Winona Ryder's character who's also kind of terrible. And at the know he she ends up choosing Ethan Hawke or whatever after he goes away for a week and she's like where did you go and he's like my dad died I was at his funeral or whatever and she's like what and he's like don't even worry about it I've come back to tell you I love you and I'm like your dad died yeah right that's a big deal but he's just like but I'm here to say that I love you. Not if you're super grunge, though. Yeah, I guess not. So anyway, I think if you're in that, I think this is the kind of thing where if I was this age or younger, I would have loved it.

But now I'm kind of like, I think there is that Gen X attitude and it's not all Gen X. And it's not even, it's in a bit of every generation where nothing matters and why even bother and society is a trap and whatever. And I'm sure I've said things exactly like that before and will continue to. I believe that is true, but it's not enough just to go, well, just throw your hands up and go, well, I guess I'll just do nothing because that's worse. You still, you have to do something is what I'm saying yeah yeah and i think this movie sort of makes that point or does it i wrote here i hate this but that was before it ended okay on the ending turned it around a little a little bit a little bit yeah where do the players end at the end of the movie when i write her and they get together and ben still up i don't know what he does drives

up a cliff probably drives up a cliff in his convertible or whatever yeah okay so just so you know spin doctors spin doctors uh um two princes came out in their 1991 album pocket full of kryptonite there you go and and uh reality bites was many years later now the the premise of reality so it's i always assumed that it was it was reality bites and they were little bites like this series of vignettes well there is kind of that because she's a documentary maker and she's filming her friends and there's interesting kind of side story with uh what's her name the comedian i forgot her name again janina yes who's actually said grab that gem in a video before somebody i remember that which is great and she's a character who's celebrity crush oh really she's trying to find love and she's

sleeping with all these different men and oh not not me though. Thanks for nothing, Janika Ruffalo, from that era. When you were a child. Yes. She has an AIDS scare. And Steve Zahn's character is coming out to his parents. Steve Zahn. I'm sorry. I've only recently come to terms with the fact that I'm Steve Zahn.

I like Steve Zahn a lot as well. So they kind of have interesting side stories. But again, it's that kind of thing where it's, I think people are too easy to give up and go, well, the world's burning and who cares? And everything's a trap and who cares? But you don't have to do those things. You can do something else.

You know, you don't have to go work for Ben Stiller. That's true. Selling Pizza Hut or whatever he does. Sure. I'm not sure exactly. He sold the business Pizza Hut. Well, he takes Winona Wright's documentary and he re- Did he sell all the Pizza Hut huts, which in this movie. I'm not sure exactly. He sold the business Pizza Hut. Well, he takes Winona Ryder's documentary and he re- Did he sell all the Pizza Hut huts, which is why there aren't any anymore?

Maybe that's why. Yeah. But he, because he's like, I'm going to make your documentary. I'm going to get it released. And then they re-edit it and they make it into a weird Pizza Hut ad or whatever. And she's like, that was my work. And he's like, I thought you'd like it. And I'm like, why would you think she would like that?

It's the 90s. The ultimate crime in the 90s was selling out for any amount of money like why would you think she would like that it's the 90s the ultimate crime in the 90s was selling out for any amount of money why would you think that so it's also but it's also reality bites this bites

yes it is that's so nice anyway I've talked way too much about this movie no I'm super keen on this so it's not edgy anymore

no okay right no okay look somebody suggested this and I knew it was on there and I tried to watch it

Connor on Twitter suggested I watch Donnie Darko and I tried and I just couldn't finish it. So I switched to Dark City instead, which is not edgy in any way, but... But it's pre-Matrix. Yeah, that's true. The post of the crone. When was the last time you watched Donnie Darko?

Oh, it may be... I watched it with you, I think. Because there were two options. I could either buy the theatrical release or the director's cut. And I'm like, well, I'll of the director's cut and I'm like well I'll try the director's cut

isn't that way worse probably I've heard it makes less sense I heard it's one of those movies where the theatrical cut can kind of make

sense of it but the director's cut shows that the director doesn't exactly understand the movie that he made or something I've never seen

the director's cut it's about time travel or something or time loops they're both about time loops great yes anyway I hate

Donnie Darko why I've always hated it. Is his haircut? Yep, that's... Look, I like the Maggie Gyllenhaal, Jake Gyllenhaal combo. Yes.

On screen. Is it true his full name is Donrad Darko? Yeah. Cool. Yeah, Donrad Darkenstein. Yes. Okay, the only bit I remember really liking from this movie is the poster I have on my wall when I was in college.

But also the bit. The spooky rabbit. The spooky rabbit. No, the bit where he tells Patrick Swayze off in an auditorium. Oh, yeah, that's right. Patrick Swayze is talking about how. Patrick Swayze wouldn't touch this with a 10-foot pole. No, he wouldn't.

Yes, he would. He would. But he's talking about how love is the answer and, you know, you're just confused and Jesus is the way and you're just angry and, you know, you know what you're talking about and he just gives him a fucking serve. Oh, Donnie Darkin gives him a serve. And he calls him the Antichrist.

At the end it turns out that Patrick Swayze is maybe a pedophile or something at the end. Yeah. So it doesn't hold up. Well, I never thought it held up. Is it too edgy for its own good? It's too nonsensical for its own good. And I think that's why I think in attempting to make it nonsensical.

Yes. I think it was made to be deliberately kind of dense and nonsensical. Yeah. Because if people don't get it, then it has a deeper meaning. Oh, that's so true. But if you recall, you can look on the website and it explains the time travel mechanic. But is that even the point of the movie?

I don't feel it has any point. Donrad Darkenstein or whatever you said. Exactly. What an era. So we're just going to go to the next thing? I think so.

Okay. I nearly got around to this and I kind of wish I did but I feel like Oh, Dark City's a really good movie. Yeah. I watched it all the way

to the end. Did you watch the version that spoils the twist at the start? No, because I had a director's cut on DVD. Okay. On a physical medium.

Can you even believe it? So this is by the director of City of Gods, whatever it is. Is that the Gerard Butler one? Is it Exodus? Gods versus man versus sever? I don't know. Ballistic? I don't know.

I can't remember. Whatever that weird Egypt Gerard Butler. And this movie, look, this movie isn't edgy in the traditional sense, but I did watch it. And it's pre-The Matrix. It's pre-The Matrix. It's true. Let's not spoil this one then, because maybe people I did watch it. And it's pre-The Matrix. It's pre-The Matrix. It's true. Let's not spoil this one then because maybe people should go into it.

It's Rufus Sewell wakes up in a city, in a bath, and in the other room is a murdered woman, and he has no memory of how he got there. And then he's on the bloody run. And what is most annoying about this movie is that when it came out theatrically, apparently the studio were not, they were concerned that people wouldn't understand what was happening. So what they demanded be added was an opening narration crawl

that basically explained the twist that happened at like the 60-minute mark of this movie. And how the world works and whatever. Because it's an interesting movie from memory. It's really good. I think it holds up, especially pre-The Matrix. Wow. Some of the special effects are a little bit shonky.

Sure. What do you expect? It's great. It's got Jennifer Connelly and William Hurt. And Kiefer Sutherland is in this movie. Oh, he's a weird goth gremlin or something? No, he's a scientist. Oh, that's right.

He's got a big monocle eye or something? He's got one bung eye and some little glasses. Okay, right. Well, I got none of that right, but I remember that he was in it. I don't think that movie's edgy in the traditional sense, but it's a good movie. Well, here's something. This is pre-Donnie Darko.

We could probably do another episode on edgy movies if people have more suggestions. Or if they're like, they've really done a real hatchet job on this stuff. Never talk about edgy movies again. We will. We can do that also. Jesse on Twitter said The Crow.

Yeah. The Crow is like the 90s goth era made celluloid. But having not rewatched it recently, I think it's one of those things like Blade where it's of the time and it's edgy and real and whatever and dark. But it works, I think. What do you think? And there's still some dumb goth stuff in it. Boy, is there, yes.

Remember the bit where he puts rings in a gun or something? Yeah, that's right. I think these movies especially are at the mercy of the cinematography at the time, I think, whereas they look like movies from the 90s. they look like movies from the 90s. I think if you even took the plot and the characters and the same actors and tweaked a little bit of the dialogue and filmed it now in the modern era, I think it would look and seem a lot better.

But I think it's the fact... But then would that then age again 20 years on? Probably. You look back and go, ugh. That's why we've got these endless remakes. You know it. Well, they're still trying to remake The Crow, aren't they? God.

It's a good movie, maybe. From memory. Do you think it's good? I'll have to rewatch it. Wow. American Psycho. Yes. I rewatched American Psycho.

What do you think? I think the book is way more, oh my God, look how edgy I am, than the movie is. I think the movie, I mean, it's kind of visceral and surprising in its violence. If you haven't read the book and you don't know what's coming up. I mean, it is called American Psycho and he's got a big knife on the box cover. Yeah, but it could be like about a guy who's like, he's a killer on Wall Street or whatever, but not literally.

That's true. He's metaphorically a killer on Wall Street. There's some funny scenes in this. I think this movie, I think it still holds up. Every now and then I'll watch that business card scene. It's got a few famous actors in it now. It's got... Jared Leto.

Jared Leto. It's got the dude from... He's the new tramp in Lady and the Tramp. Justin Theroux is in there. There might be some others. The guy plays Gavin Belson in Silicon Valley. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Anyway, it's a really funny, like they've all compared business cards and they're all essentially the same business card and they're all getting really envious of... The identical business cards, yeah. Yeah, because they're eggshell and much cream. The minuscule variations, yeah. And then one has a watermark or whatever, yeah.

You know, it's interesting because I heard something about this movie recently and that is that there's really graphic sex scenes in it where Christian Bale hires a bunch of prostitutes and then has sex with them and films it and then murders them or whatever. Yeah, right. Also, here's the thing about maybe watching a bunch of these movies is it all washes over me at this point.

Do you feel the same way? Oh, like it doesn't affect you? Yeah, it doesn't register in any way. Like the scene in Fight Club where the narrator beats himself up and it's quite brutal. Or there's a point where he just really pulps Jared Leto. I think you would have enjoyed that.

Yeah, I did kind of enjoy that. But at no point am I like, oh, this is a bit much. And I don't know if that's a function of... I wonder if it's just been 20 years and you've just seen so much. I don't know whether it's necessarily... Oh, I've seen so much. Yeah, and i don't know if that's a function of i wonder if it's just been 20 years and you've just seen so much i don't know whether it's necessarily i've seen so much yeah but i don't know whether it's necessarily because you watch them all in a row yeah but maybe it is but i read this thing about how with the sex scenes it was supposed to be that when he was

having sex with them you know he's like he's looking himself in the mirror and he's posing and he's like thinks he's great and then it would show their faces and they cut this out and they're just bored. So, but they cut that out for whatever reason. And I think that would have been an interesting element to be like, this guy's all kind of a loser and he doesn't even know that he's, you know,

like he thinks he's this great, you know, this champion of men, but he's just kind of, he just sucks. For sure. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, I mean, you know, that's, that's one of the biggest questions about this movie and the book, I guess, is how much of it is just in his head. And what do you think? I think he's actually a murderer.

Yeah, and the company covers it up or whatever? Yeah. But look, I think this still holds up as a satire. He's got a great rig on him. Boy, does he. Is that his best ever rig? I mean, he's been bigger. He's been bigger. It might be his best rig. Even better than his machinist rig?

It's a good rig. It's different, obviously. It's horses for courses and such. Yeah, the Batman Begins rig is bigger. The Dark Knight rig is similar to Rises. But that's not a beautiful rig. That's more like bruised. It's beautiful and tan and whatever.

Do you think it's more difficult in Hollywood to bulk up or do it machinist style where you get really skinny? I think it would be more to get skinny and it would be more uncomfortable. It would be ultimately more taxing, I think. But it might be easier to – I don't know, people say it's really hard to recover from that. Matt Damon did it once and he got really sick from it and he's still sick. I think Christian Bale is going to stop doing it because you don't need to.

Yeah, right. Because they'll just CGI you either way. Just get a real skinny guy and CGI your head onto it. I might re-watch American Psycho, actually. Yeah. Mitch said on Twitter, Boondock Saints. But he actually wrote Boondocks Saints. What a goose.

And he said, don't rip into me for calling it Boondocks Saints. What a goose. And not Boondock Saints, though. What a goose. Mitch, we're ripping into you, mate. Yeah. Yeah. I wouldn't have noticed unless you said anything. Now, what do you think of Boondocks Saints. What a goose. And not Boondock Saints, though. What a goose. Mitch, we're ripping into you, mate. Yeah. I wouldn't have noticed unless you said anything. What do you think of Boondocks Saints?

Again, we're talking scenery-chewing performances, Willem Dafoe's. Sure. Yeah, have I mentioned this on the show, but I recently watched Willem Dafoe go through all of his career-defining performances on YouTube and he says that whenever someone comes up to him, he immediately knows if they're going to talk to him about Boondock Saints.

Yeah, because it's a cult. Yeah. Wear a fedora. Absolutely, fedora trench coat kind of situation. I remember thinking it was super cool and surprising at the time and had some cool gunfights, and that's probably still true. Oh, my God, everybody's holding two guns in this movie. Yeah, and Billy Connolly's their dad or whatever.

That's right. But I didn't re-watch it, so I couldn't say whether it's a... Do you think it's like a Guy Ritchie wannabe kind of thing, or do you think it's actually... Because I think you sailed on this long before me. You were like, eh, it's not that good, and the second one's about as good as the first one or whatever. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I have watched it fairly recently, but I didn't get all the way to the end. Yeah, right. Choose the Cat, remember? Yeah. Didn't see it coming. Product of its time, I think. It's very much kind of style over substance.

Yeah, right. There's not a lot to it. Yes. And it didn't have a lot of trouble with distribution, right. There's not a lot to it. Yes. And he didn't have a lot of trouble with distribution and the directors never really recovered in Hollywood or whatever because they didn't want to release it and they hated him and he hated them and all that kind of thing. But he made it independently or whatever.

Okay. There's an old story behind it, Mason. Well, you've just told it to me and it's incredible. Yes. Here's an interesting one. Okay. Moose Giddles says, this is a movie I know really well, Life of Brian.

Because that was... I don't know whether... I guess that's edgy, yeah. I don't know. Because Life of Brian is basically, it's a story set, for those that don't know, it's a Monty Python movie. It's from the late 70s. It's basically a person called Brian who was born at the exact same time as Jesus and his

life sucks. But then for some reason, people think he's also a Messiah and it's kind of about the trappings of religion. And it's not a mockery of Jesus. It's a mockery of religion and society and whatever. And it was very controversial at the time, particularly among devout Catholics, but also a lot of Catholics. Like my grandma was very Catholic and she loved it.

She thought it was a ridiculous farce of a movie. Well, if you can't poke fun at your own religion. Exactly. What are you even doing? But there's a very famous interview where Michael Palin and John Cleese go on and they defend the movie from some upper class British cardinals. Oh, yes.

And it is terrific. Really? If you want to see how smart John Cleese is. Or was. Or was, I think he's, yeah. He's Brexiting now, isn you want to see how smart John Cleese is. Oh. Or was. Or was, I think he's, yeah. He's Brexiting now. He's Brexiting, yeah. But I just, it's really interesting.

And because they're like, it's an affront to Jesus and God and how dare you. And then they're like, we haven't seen it. Of course, yeah, of course they haven't. Someone's told them it's bad. Yes, but it's. But they couldn't get their bloody hats through the door, could they? You know it, mate. So it's kind of...

Toffee nose twits. Yeah, I still think it holds up. I think it is... It was definitely edgier for the time. It's pretty tame now because everybody's taken down the bloody Catholic church, mate. They're all going to jail. Some of them are going to... Very few of them are going to jail.

Not enough of them are going to jail. But no, I think it still holds up. The one at my parish maybe went to jail. Yeah, that's right. Did he go to jail? They moved him around a lot. They certainly did move him around a lot, didn't they? Yeah.

For those people who don't know, they moved a pedophile to Mason School when he was a kid. He didn't get you though, did he? He didn't. I've won this round at Catholic Church. God, I couldn't believe that. I mean, I can, obviously. Yeah, of course you can. But when I first heard it, I mean I can obviously now but when I first

heard it I'm like you've got to be fucking kidding me anyway it's not as edgy as it was it's pretty edgy for the time but no I think

it's a pretty funny movie from memory and there's a weird Star Wars bit in the middle of it for no reason what else we got well I've run out

oh okay I'm going from some Twitter ones I don't have all the time in the world to watch movies we can just do a few more Heath said Daredevil I think so much of that was

supposed to be edgy and cool right yeah the soundtrack the outfit the lighting the fight scenes i feel like that came out of the era where that that was minimum record that what what daredevil was produced what what they created with daredevvil's like the minimum, the lowest bar in that particular time in the 2000s? 2003, yeah. 2003. I think like 2003 you needed an Evanescence song. Was that ever edgy though? Because I don't remember the time being like cool.

I don't even hate that movie. But I don't remember the time thinking like, oh, my God. Yeah. I don't remember thinking, oh, my God, that's cool. Like I didn't think any of it was particularly cool or edgy. Yeah, right. Yeah, it was a bold attempt at being edgy, I think. Kevin Smith said it.

Yeah. Yeah. It is edgy. Connor has written Bright, which I think is a recent example of that's not so much edgy, but it's more like fantasy, but like you've never seen. What if cops? What if orcs were? What if orcs were cops and cops were orcs? It's not like fantasy, but like you've never seen. What if cops? What if orcs were?

What if orcs were cops and cops were orcs? It's not very good. No, it's one of the worst. It's pretty funny. Robbo has said that Psycho was the first movie that allowed a flushing toilet. Yeah, right. I mean, Psycho holds up, doesn't it? I would think so.

There you go. Yeah. What was the first TV show to have a married couple in one bed? Oh, right. Who was that? It wasn't the Brady Bunch, was it? I don't think so. No, I think they were separate beds.

Yeah. That's so weird. That wasn't reality, though, was it? To the best of my knowledge. I don't think most people had separate beds. In that era, they had beds together, but on television. This is another one of those weird bugbears that I had. When I was a kid, I'm like, are American children really big? Because they were all adults. They're

all people in their twenties playing high school students. This is another one where I'm like, did American married couples sleep in separate beds? Because all the TV series at that time had them in separate beds. I love Lucy doing, maybe she doesn't love Lucy, it would say, or whoever's supposed to love Lucy in that show. Ricky Ricardo. Yes, that's right. Anyway, maybe we'll come back to this another day. What do you think?

I think so too. We'll do some more edgy movies. For sure. I'd like to watch more things and just be like, I vaguely remember that and it's probably fine or whatever. Do you remember that bit? I remember that bit, yeah. So if people got any more examples,

we might come back to this at some point. Should we go to another segment of the show then? Should we go to another segment of the show? This is my favourite segment of the show, Mason. Yes, continue. What are we reading? Yes. What are we going to read?

Oh. I'm doing a thing. What are we reading today? Well, well, well. Here we are again. Oh, well, well, well. What are we reading? What are we going to read? It's a segment where we talk about things we're reading or going to read. Well, well, well. Here we are again. Oh, well, well, well. What are we reading? What are we going to read?

It's the segment where we talk about things we're reading or going to read. Well, well, well. Mason, do you want to kick us off? Well, I was going to say Control. Yeah, right. But I also got Titanfall 2. Oh, what do you think? So are you ready for some hot takes from 2016?

I love this game. It's real good. I know. It's good. If the mechs, if the Titans were bigger, this would have been a 10 out of 10 mech warrior game. What do you mean, bigger? Even bigger. Like many stories high.

Okay. I mean, they're pretty big, sure. So you want them knocking down buildings. Yeah. Yeah. So, well, again, Jedi Fallen Order, same developer. Yeah, Respawn Entertainment. Didn't do super well at the time,

but it's kind of gained this cult following, like The Crow. Yes. So... It's really solid. I like it. How good, the mechanics are good. It's not even that, it's the level design

is so precise. Yeah. Have you finished it? No, It's not very long. It's only like six to eight hours. I'm at the, spoiler alert for a game

that came out in 2016. Up to the level where you get the time travel. So good. Like unit thingamajiggy. Have you passed that level yet? Not yet, I'm getting there.

I got to a point where there's clearly a moment where you have to leap back and forth from a series of walls while time traveling in midair. And I'm like, this is going to take me a little bit. So I'm going to take a break and I'll come back to it. Come back to it. Good idea. Maybe you should have done it when your hands were limber.

Limber. Limble. When my hands were limble all. Yeah, exactly. What's great about were limble all? Yeah, exactly. What's great about that is they just throw that mechanic away. You finish the level, they just get rid of it. You could build a whole game around that, but they didn't. It's fascinating.

And it just feels like you just feel like you're really in control of that mech. You know what I mean? You really feel like Spider-Man. You're really just shooting those big old guns. Yeah. That might be my favourite game of this generation, this current generation. There you go.

Okay, right. Yeah. I've replayed that a couple of times. Whenever I'm like, what should I play? I'm like, I'll just play Titanfall 2 again. It's such a good game. Uh-huh. Do you start from the start or do you replay?

Oh, I think I'd do the tutorial because it's like... Okay, right. Skip the tutorial. You got this. I know what I'm doing. I'm actually reading. I have I've got to do the tutorial. Okay, right. Skip the tutorial. You got this. I know what I'm doing. I'm actually reading. I have no idea how to pronounce this. I'm going to spell it out.

I actually looked up the pronunciations, and they were all different and terrible. Can you show me what it says? The name for the guy is S-T-J-E-P-A-N. Oh, it's German. Yes. And the last name is Sajik, as in S-E. Oh, Stefan Sajik. Yes.

He's an art comic artist? Comic writer, artist, does it all. Because the current comic... He does some very sexy Aquaman, I think. So sexy. Too sexy. Too hot for comics. Yeah, great. So he's written...

I kind of saw this and went, eh. And then I heard it was great, because I didn't realise it was on it as well. It's called Harleen. It's a Harley Quinn origin story comic. You're right, that doesn't sound good. No, but it as well. It's called Harleen. It's a Harley Quinn origin story comic. You're right, that doesn't sound good. No, but it's excellent. And so it's

her first encounters with the Joker, except he's sexy. I'm sensing a theme here, Mason. Oh, yes. How's Harleen Quinzel? How's she looking? She looks good, but he's super sexy. So he's kind of he's a bit kind of like One Direction, kind of K-pop, Jonas Brothers looking dude.

None of those things are that similar, but you get the vibe. He's at the intersection of K-pop, the Jonas Brothers. Yes. The third thing you said. They all car crash into each other. Speaking of video games, have you played Nier Automata? Yes, I have it. Is it good?

There's a bit I keep getting stuck on and dying, and then i have to redo the first level so i i'm incredible not going back to it but yes it is good okay good why i just i've seen it recommended a bunch of times yeah giant buzzsaw you gotta fight right keep getting stuck on cool the checkpoints weren't generous enough for me i see but it keeps changing like what the game is it like shifts through it and they're like now you're flying and now you're whatever. Yeah. That's cool. Um, anyway, read Harleen cause it's, uh,

it's, it's a first meetings to the Joker. Is it a one shot? No, I think there's a, there's a few, I don't know how many it is, but it's like also one that's like 60 pages or whatever.

I'm also might get started on fight club two and three. And you should also get started on fight club the game. I won't. You could fight Abraham Lincoln in it. As Fred Durst. Yes. Two American icons together at last. Finally, yeah.

Have you seen his new movie, the John Travolta one or whatever? No. People are saying it's horrible or whatever. It's like Big Fan, but it's John Travolta. Anything else we're reading or recommending? No, I've just been watching a bunch of edgy movies this week. I just haven't had time for much else. Do you feel good to get away from that now?

No, I kind of want to watch some more. Wow. Yeah. We'll save them up, Mason. Yeah, maybe we should re-watch Boondock Saints. Yeah. And then two?

Two Dock Saints. Two Dock Saints, exactly. Figured it out. They team up with the characters from Space Jam to fight aliens. We must be due for that Space Jam movie soon, right?

Where are they at? Surely. Surely. I don't even want it, but where is it? Yeah. Anyway, next thing. They probably have to like

every once in a while they have to swap out the basketball player involved because they did too many good things for inner city youth and so they're like well half the audience is going to hate

that they did too many good things for inner city youth so we're going to replace them with somebody who hasn't made any kind of political statements you know that's probably true

yeah alright let's do it oh letters letters nice the classic one was... Letters, oh letters, we love you.

Some letters, they're only a take away. We're going to hear right now, we're going to do letters. Mason, it's in the letters. Oh, yeah. That's what I love. You love letters? Yeah, what do you love? Letters.

Good. Because if you want to send a letter... We've never had anything in common before, but it turns love. You love letters? Yeah, what do you love? Letters. Good. Because if you want to send a letter. We've never had anything in common before, but it turns out we both love letters. The whole time. Yes. We should talk more off air, I think, maybe. Maybe we could figure some other things out that we like. I know.

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But I'm curious to hear your thoughts Comic book sequels I love Superman Year One Just kidding It's not very good Imagine Mermaid or something to hear your thoughts. Comic book sequels. I love Superman Year One. Just kidding. It's not very good. Imagine Mermaid or something. Yeah, okay.

What's that a sequel to technically? I guess the Batman Year One universe. Yeah, right, okay. Or a parallel. Yeah. Maybe it doesn't count. Yeah. What about you? What are you thinking?

Sequels. Sequels. Comic book sequels. Yeah. You ever read any of the Batman Year One follow-ups? Year Two and Year Three. Yeah. I have.

Any good? They're okay. Wow. Yeah. That's right. Dark Victory is excellent. Yeah. Read The Long Halloween.

See, the thing about comic book sequels is they're often written by the same person way too late and they're bad. I was going to say that or they're just an ongoing series. Well, that's also true. So which one is the is the same yeah that's actually a really good point i guess it's sort of like we're talking like standalone stories where yeah there's like a graphic and novel-y follow-up-y thing yes yeah you're right about that because all i can think of like ongoing things i'm like i really like that new 52 batman run but i think that's just one run. What do you think about The Dark Knight Returns again? Strikes Back again?

Terrible. Profoundly terrible. Well, I pick Dark Victory also. Oh, come on. Now that means I have to use Dark Knight Strikes again. Civil War 2 is bad. You know, there is a Civil War spin-off which is set in a parallel what-if world where it's still going and New York was destroyed and America is divided

and Captain America and Iron Man are still fighting. What about some old man comics? Hawkeye's great, actually. It's a prequel, technically. And they're currently doing Old Man Quill, which I also like. There you go. There's some good ones. There we go, yeah.

Yeah, wow. You still haven't thought of one. I just thought of that one, right? No, you just... God damn it. How about this? Right in, yeah. Yeah, wow. You still haven't thought of one. I just thought of that one, right? No, you just... God damn it. How about this? Right in, people. It's a good comic book sequel.

Okay, there we go, yeah. Not a run. Sequel. Oh, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen sequels are all really good. Okay, right. Why do you say that? They're just... They go in a bunch of weird directions.

Alan Moore takes the pieces of the original league of extraordinary gentlemen which is a series of victorian era literary figures sure and then he's just like okay what if they then found the fountain of youth and they all went insane yeah that is interesting pretty interesting okay cool all right yeah i like the league of extraordinary gentlemen sequels what about fight club i haven't read them yet. Yeah, you're excited for it, though. Yeah, I kind of am. Well, we all thought of some, didn't we? We all thought of some.

I thought of the most. But if you can think of some. I did already. You, the listener, who's sitting behind James. Why are you pointing at me? Because they're behind you. I like that. Ah, yeah.

But let us know. This is an email from Stephen Durges. Hello, Stephen. Just says, you two should play Untitled Goose Game. I have. How is it? It's great. I talk about Unsuggestable, but then my Switch died and I don't know where the charger is.

Oh, no. Do you want to be a goose? Sometimes. Do you want to just bother people? He's an annoying goose, right? I've seen some gameplay of it. It's ridiculous. You've got to steal a man's hat.

Yeah. You've got to. You can take his rake and put it into the lake and he's like, come on. Oh, raking a lake. Raking a lake. Also, he's like, come on. Oh, rake in a lake. Rake in a lake. Also, there's not really any consequences. They don't kick you or anything. I was going to say,

there doesn't seem to be any game over sequences. No, there's not. You can just endlessly bother people. Yeah. I think that, you know what, you know what would make Untitled Goose Game better is if there was some other kind of game where people are trying to achieve certain goals,

and then you as the goose invade their game okay right and annoy them like it's bus simulator and they're trying to drive the bus or whatever and you just keep getting in a honk and they crash the bus i know some people have talked about um they want to make him a smash brothers character yeah sure that's a melbourne developer as well it's a melbourne game yeah that's really cool so i like that a lot uh so yeah um so when i find my switch charger i'm gonna to finish that game. I've got a tweet here. This came out this week.

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Get in here lads, eh? Soap up. What do you make of Bob Iger's recent book Where he brags About how disappointed George Lucas was With what Disney did

To Star Wars Now did you hear about this No I'll quickly give you the rundown I'm ready Okay well the rundown Was a movie with Dwayne The Rock Johnson

And Sean William Scott I remember it It was introduced Into Australia as Welcome to the Jungle But the funny thing is There was actually another movie, I believe,

also called The Rundown. Is that correct? So there was some confusion. It might have been, but Jumanji Welcome to the Jungle also has The Rock in it. So it's one of those situations where... So The Rock wanted to be a chef.

Yes. But in order to get the money to be a chef, he had to get out of debt from like a mob boss. And in order to do that, he had to retrieve certain objects like somebody's Super Bowl ring.

That's right. And they wouldn't want to give him the Super Bowl ring, so he had to beat him up. He had to give him the rundown, or as we call it in Australia. A bashing. A glassing. Yeah. So it's a good movie, I think.

I think it holds up. Yeah. But in terms of George Lucas and his deal with Disney, this was known, but Bob Iger's, your dad, is releasing a book. And basically he talks about in one section how George Lucas was under the assumption that because they bought his treatments for

episodes 7 to 9, they were going to use them. And they didn't. But they did for kindling. Yes, they threw them all away. Or as we call them in Australia, a glassing. Or a welcome to the jungle. They gave him the old goose. They dragged him all into a lake. That's right.

They stole his hat. The way that he talks about it in the book, he seems regretful that he wasn't more transparent, that they weren't going to use them necessarily. Yeah, right. Okay, so it's less a brag. Yeah. It's weird that he's kind of bringing it up.

It's kind of strange. Yeah, but it's also because he's still the CEO. I don't know why he's doing this. But anyway. Why is he releasing a book? Is it because he's a terrible person probably and there's probably some dirt is going to emerge on him very soon? Maybe.

That's my guess. And he's trying to get out in front of it. Maybe George Lucas dacked him. Maybe I should ask him. Yeah. But, Dad, are you cancelled yet? But, yeah, so he was under no obligation to use them. Yeah. But... Daddy, you cancelled yet. But... Yeah, so he was under no obligation to use them.

Yeah. And it was in the contracts that they didn't have to use them and they could do whatever. Uh-huh. So it's... But he feels remorse that he didn't... Yeah, that they... But also, I understand why they didn't use it

because people seem to forget that as little as like six years ago or probably less than when they, seven years ago when this deal was made public, people hate the prequels. Yeah. And people would have flipped out if it was another version of the prequels. You know, it's only because we got a different thing that also people didn't like. Some people didn't like. Yes.

That people are like, well, they should have used the treatments or whatever. But it's all about the inner workings of the force and who controls the force and all sorts of stuff, apparently. I did a video on it a while ago, what George Lucas was going to do. Anyway, what do you think? Do you think it's fair that in this contractual agreement where they didn't have to use it, they didn't use it? And everybody's still got billions of dollars?

I'd have to say the contract. Sure. Like if it said, we will definitely use this. It didn't have to use it. They didn't use it. And everybody still got billions of dollars. I'd have to say the contract. Sure. Like if it said we will definitely use this. It didn't. Then whatever, man. You know? Take your $4 billion. Yeah, I think you'll live.

Yeah. You made the most iconic of the Star Wars movies. That's true. So be happy with that, I think. I'm happy with that. Again, be happy with the fact that you've made the most ubiquitous form of entertainment that the world has ever seen. And you have billions of dollars.

Again, the origin of the man who doesn't know what Star Wars is. Because you cannot escape Star Wars at any moment for even a second of your life. There's always Star Wars somewhere in your field of vision or in your brain or in your ears or in your shirt. That's true. Yeah, underpants. Are you going to get Jedi Fallen Order? Probably. You're going to have to, aren't you?

It'll be in my house all the time. Do you have any Star Wars stuff in your house? I don't know if I do. In the boot of my car, I have one of those Star Wars technical manuals, like with all the schematics of the ships and stuff. From when you were a kid? Yeah, because I was getting stuff from my parents' old house.

You're mad on that stuff. Or you were as a kid, weren't you? Yeah, I had all the Star Trek technical manuals. And I'm like, ooh, dilithium. That is how they power that. Crystals, yeah? Crystals, yeah. I know.

Yeah, that's right. There we go. Anyway, is that the show? Maybe. You want some more emails, though? No. Okay, then. No, what have you got?

This is from Connor Angel. He says, hey, mate, so recently I graduated from year 12. This made me really depressed. What is the one thing you go back to every time you feel down to make yourself feel happy again? Reality bites, man. Really? That's what I go back to. Of course you do, yeah.

And this applies aptly for your situation. Yes. Because, you know, enter in the real world. Oh, that's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a good question. What's a good feel good? Feel good? Yeah. I love the movie world or whatever. Oh, that's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a good question. What's a good feel good? Feel good?

Yeah. I love the movie Sunshine, Mason. You know that. I'll go back to that. You play Titanfall too. I do play Titanfall too. I read comics. I read comics that I really like.

I go back to. I read like certain runs and stuff. Yeah. What about you? A lot of dumb podcasts that are worth a re-listen, I think. Just some nice, nice calming ones. Beef and Dairy Network, I feel is good for that. A series of nonsensical interviews about people in the beef and dairy industry.

But obviously not, just nonsense. Yes. Is there comedies that you go back to? Like I don't necessarily go back to a comedy to feel good. I'd go back to something that I like to feel good. Okay, yeah, right. I'm not like, I need a laugh or whatever. Yeah, right.

What about you? That's a good question. I don't know. I think I probably prefer short form stuff. Yeah, right. Like, I probably won't watch a whole movie. Maybe a series that you like? A series?

Yeah. There's President Lyndon Johnson, former President Lyndon Johnson. Oh, he used to read tapes? Yeah, he used to record all his White House. Like, any time he made a call anywhere. And they're all on YouTube. And, you know, there's important ones. He's often talking about his balls.

Yeah, there's one where he calls the president of, like, a pants company to order some pants. And it's just him. It's a really specific conversation about his pants and how there isn't enough room for his balls. And like, can you adjust? Can you give me an extra inch here on my balls? And all this sort of stuff.

I will listen to that over and over again. Do you think that's a guy who's... Should be the president? Well, he was, wasn't he? Yeah, he was, yeah. But do you think he's just he's like i know these are being recorded and i want people to think oh i don't know no i just i just think he was the president he's like i don't care oh whatever i know because i don't know i don't

know much about his past but i guess he was just like a again like a big balls it's that big balls and he's like yeah can you can you give me more room for my balls there i know there's not much room for my balls in a pair of pants, but I've got big balls. Man. Yeah. Isn't it good when presidents have conversations with other presidents and they're recorded and then released and we get a good idea of what that person is really like?

Yes, I like that. I think they should all be released. Yeah, it's interesting. Yeah, it is interesting. I know some might be in the interest of national security, but some just might be interesting to just know about. You know what I mean? Yeah.

To make informed decisions. Anyway, is that the show? I think that's the whole show, yeah. Anyway, best of luck on it. I hate it when you get political about presidents' balls, Mason. Yeah, you would. Unsubscribed. Fair enough.

But how do people read this? Oh, well, if you'd like to subscribe, that would be great. If you'd like to subscribe to the podcast, if you'd like to tell a friend, if you'd like to leave a nice review, we'd very much appreciate that. You've got a review there. Got one right here. It's from Captain Crotch. How ass.

That's very apt. A show that makes you say, maybe I should do this. The Weekly Planet is fantastic. Five stars, by the way. James and Mason not only talk movies and comics and TV shows, but they seem to have the beat of times while doing it. Makes you think, maybe I should have a podcast where I talk about similar things.

We definitely have the beat of times. You know we do. Yeah, he says, maybe I should have a podcast where I talk about similar things. I need to find funnier friends first. Nick and Richard. Specific call out to Nick and Richard. That's a burn on them. I hope they're listening.

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Very, very good. Yeah. We've got some T-shirts on tpublic.com. We do. Thank you to The Brute and The Basilisk and Rackham for all our musical themes. Yes, we do. We're so close to $50,000. Oh, my goodness.

I can smell it. Thanks to you guys and the Intrepid Foundation. If we get to $50,000, that is $100,000. That we can take to the Bahamas. Oh, my God. We're going to get so many Mai Tais in the Bahamas. You know it. Oh, my God.

Drinks are so cheap there. But Claire will stop us from doing that. And that $100,000 will go to stopping the world from burning. Hopefully, yeah. And we definitely appreciate that. Definitely. Yes. Anything else?

What else we got here? What else is that? We're talking about the Joker. Oh, my goodness. Go and see the Joker, I guess. We already have opinions. We have strong opinions on the Joker. You going to see it again?

No. Maybe. Maybe. We'll see. We'll talk about it. Are you going to see it again? Maybe if I have time, yeah. Okay, then.

I'll see. All right. All right. Absolutely. Do you agree? I agree. But also, grab that gem, you guys. We will see you next week.

Goodbye. Goodbye. Oh, I'm going to put the end bit in the show because often I forget. I really liked Hey Mail last week. Oh, speaking of, yeah, I thought about doing a follow-up but it's just not the same, you know what I mean?

And I'm like, are these fake? Yeah, exactly. Second week out, you know what I mean? There was some good stuff but I'm like, this isn't good enough. No, exactly. And I think the appeal drops off a little if we do two in a row. It's like making a bad sequel, Mason.

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