The Weekly Planet - 309 Terminator Dark Fate & More Star Wars Trouble

Episode Date: November 4, 2019

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You been on anything? I don't know. I feel like I just saw you. We just did this. I have not been on anything. Good. Well, if you have, hit me up in the comments. Oh, yeah, cool. I'll hit you up in the comments.

And then we'll know. Okay, so look, we definitely would have missed some stuff because there is a bit of a gap between now and Monday. There's no big events. There's no big Comic Cons, though. No, but there is still a lot of big news that has already happened this week. There is. For example, HBO have cancelled a Game of Thrones

prequel series about the Long Night, which, as you know, is when spooky nighttime happens. Ah, spooky nighttime. Dragons and spiders and stuff. I'm not aware of this. So is this, because I am aware that there was going to be a bunch of spin-offs. Yes. And a bunch of prequels slash sequels.

Oh, I've got so many news for you. Was there going to be one set a thousand years before the events? Or is that one still on? Essentially, this is the one that was, the Long Night is. This is the one that had Naomi Watts in it Yes They filmed a pilot It also had Naomi Ackie

Who was Who's in The new Star Wars I believe She's the one Who's riding the horses She's like And Naomi Klein That's right

Author of No Logo These are all things It's a Naomi only cast That's right That was the That's in the series bible It says Naomi only Yeah so the Long Night

Is when the winter Was for like a thousand years or whatever, and people are like, it's so cold. Oh, my God. And it's like... Bloody, I'd take a bloody thousand-year-old, thousand-year winter right now. You know it, mate. It's quite warm.

In Melbourne. But so, and that was, I think it's all, you know, when they're talking about, I don't know if you remember Game of Thrones, the series. I mean, vaguely, sure. Yeah, they would like, hang on. Yeah. Can you give me some different pants?

All right, I'll get you some different pants. Everybody will be right back. I've got to get some different pants. He's not happy with the pants he's carrying. This is wild. Just to be clear, is this some sort of attempt to get some sort of viral meme going again, a la Big Sandwich?

Because it seems that way. I didn't wait him up. You're like, my son, do some riffing out there. And he's coming with different pants. Come on. I don't know what to tell you. He's a meme machine. He's a meme machine.

I'm back. I changed my shirt. Oh, my goodness. We're all in. His pants were fine, but as one of these, having a three, four-year-old or whatever, they're very much like, this is the particular thing that I want. It's all back. Oh, my goodness. We're all in. His pants were fine, but as one of these, having like a three, four-year-old or whatever, they're very much like, this is the particular thing that I want. It's all right.

We all took the opportunity to put on different pants. Hashtag different pants, everyone. We're going to make this viral if it kills every single one of us. We want to see a thousand memes. We want to see the feed in the Planet Broadcasting Great Mates choked up. We want to drive the admins insane planet broadcasting great mates choked up. We want to drive the admins insane. We want memes about different pants. We want people angry about there's too many memes about different pants.

We want a resurgence. Yeah, exactly. We want a backlash to the resurgence. We want people going, when are different pants going to die already? So basically this pilot, which they shot, is no longer happening. But at the same time, they greenlit the other prequel Game of Thrones series, House of Dragons, which is set 300 years prior, which is about the rise of House Targaryen.

Wait, 300 years prior to the one that's pre- Yes. Okay, so this- No, to this current one. Okay, right. It's about all the different dragons and how many dragons are going to come in and be like we're dragons i understand i assume i don't i don't know so i guess that means i don't know whether that means it's the their arrival or it's like well i can't remember i've forgotten all my game of throne knowledge i don't know where in the time i don't know whether

that means why do you think that's happened because i don't care anymore mason yeah but uh yeah because remember in from the Game of Thrones stories, they come over with dragons and they conquer the kingdom. But I think it was further than 300 years back. Or it's not. Again, I don't know. But it's interesting that they cancelled that other one after one episode. Yes.

But this new one, they haven't filmed anything and they've greenlit the entire series. It is interesting. So it must have been something they really did not like. Do people just want to see dragons, though? They're like, we'll do the dragon one. I mean, if the choice is between dragons and no dragons. Yeah. I think people are going want to see dragons, though? They're like, we'll do the dragon one. Yeah, I think so. I mean, if the choice is between dragons and no dragons, I think people are going to go with dragons, right?

Exactly. What happened to all the dragons in Game of Thrones? Basically, they kind of bred them down like dogs and kept them indoors. Oh, they got like boutique dragons. Yeah, exactly. They were just wheezing and dragging their bodies along the ground. Pretty much, yeah. Short little legs.

They were like as small as like dogs and stuff, but no good. So they kept them in cages and things like that. Oh, then they all died. I'm trying to find if I got any... Well, that's grim. The ruling of the seven kingdoms. I'm trying to work out where this bloody happened. That's a grim reflection on modern life.

It really is, Mason. Have you ever seen a sausage dog? Jesus. I love them, but Jesus. They're so cute. What is happening there? So anyway, I don't know when it is Somebody will tell us

Nice Anyways So that's what's happening With Game of Thrones But you wish it was The only Game of Thrones News mason Oh yes

This is sort of related HBO Max is launching Did you see this In 2020 It's their streaming service You got enough Streaming services Yeah

Oh well Do you want one more though Is there always room For one more Oh? Is there always room for one more? Oh, yeah, there's always room for one more. Good, excellent. So this has got to be $14.99 a month. That's US. That's a lot.

But if you look at the content, Mason, it's $10,000. And I'm always looking at content. You know you are. It's $10,000. Different pants. I want to see Meso driving the tram, but the tram is in a different pair of pants. Yep.

Sound good? If a tram were wearing different pants, how would the tram wear the pants? What would that even look like? Oh, my God. Anyway, you say. They're talking about 10,000 hours of programming, and the reason they're doing this is because

this has been a priority for Warner Media and its parent company, AT&T. Since the telecom giant bought Time Warner last year. Was that this year? I don't know. For $85 billion. Is this because people are no longer signing up to HBO? I don't know.

Yeah, that's very possible. Because, I mean, why would you have HBO where you just watch the TV as it comes up and also HBO Max, which I'm assuming for the price that you're paying, has everything that is coming out on HBO plus an archive of- 10,000 hours of things. 10,000 hours of Sex and the City episodes. Speaking of, this is what they've got. You mentioned Sex and the City, yes.

The Looney Tunes, Hanna-Barbera. Get out of that weird alley, you dumb top cat. I hate your top cat. Oh, my God. Scooby-Doo gang, where do you think the clue is? It's probably under that one rock that's a different colour to all the other rocks because that's where the animation is. You're going to split up into two groups, Shaggy and Scooby.

Maybe they'll come across the kitchen, but then a ghost will interrupt. I hate all the Hanna-Barbera stuff, Mason. What about the modern day? What about your Harvey Birdman? Yeah, I love Harvey Birdman. Wow, you've changed your tune very quickly, haven't you? I'm talking about like the 60s stuff. Yeah, now I know.

You know what I'm talking about. Because there was a big difference between that and like the Looney Tunes. Yeah, for sure. They're not the same. Cartoon Network, The West Wing, Rick and Morty, Friends, Big Bang, Sopranos, Big Little Lies, The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, Lord of the Rings, all the DCc movies every one of them and doom patrol i assume that this is the dc streaming service is done right that was quick i mean i haven't announced anything like that but i'm assuming they're gonna fall why would doom patrol go to to hbo max if they're not

canning exactly why would you be like well you can buy you can get dc universe for titans and old episodes of arrow and doom patrol or you can get out you get doom and old episodes of Arrow and Doom Patrol. Or you can get Doom Patrol over on HBO Max. Well, speaking of, though, because we're getting some more DC TV, they announced a Green Lantern TV show. Huge budget. It's going to be Greg Berlanti, who, of course, did Flash Green Lantern Supergirl, who currently still is involved with that. He was also a co-writer on the last Green Lantern movie.

Make of that what you will. The last and only Green Lantern. No, there was that weird Justice League thing we did, but it wasn't a Green Lantern focused, was it? Was it the Guy Gardner one? That was Guy Gardner, yeah. Anyway, that's on Caravan of Garbage from like years back. It's terrible if you want to watch that.

But, yeah, what do you think about that high-budget Green Lantern TV? Will it be folded into the Jokerverse, which is the new mainline universe? Oh, do you think it will be? No, not that one. Do you think it'll be just about a sad drunk man who pawns his grandmother's green ring? But he gets it back and then he just punches people with it. Yeah, nice.

It's got a big green gem in it. It doesn't do anything. It's just a stone. I mean, it knocks people's eyes out. Yeah, sure. So, yeah, you happy with that? Green Lantern, big budget TV series? Are we talking a CW kind of show?

No, no, like big, big, big stuff. Oh, big stuff. Big HBO money. Oh, okay, right. And it's going to be apparently space and whatever, which is your favourite thing. Sounds really good, okay. You like all that?

All right. You know what? If they give us some sort of hanging out in a space bar situation, you know what? I want kind of like a, look, I want big explosive action with big green boxing gloves and et cetera, but I also want like a scene, like hard-boiled detective style where he goes into like a space bar and like Lobo's there maybe.

Yes. You know, just a bunch of space miscreants. Well, they did cancel that Lobo series, so who knows where he is. In for a chance maybe, yeah. Yeah, that's right. Excellent. Okay, there you go. They're also doing Strange Adventures,

which is an anthology series of cautionary tales set in a world where superpowers exist. So Black Mirror, but capes, I'd imagine, by the sounds of things. What if capes, but too many capes? Too many capes. Stuck in doors too many times. That's right. And they're also doing...

What if a door got stuck in a cape, though? What if you're wearing a door instead of a cape? What would that look like? Oh, my God. So they're also talking about- What if superheroes put different pants? So they're also doing Strange Adventures. Sorry, I said that one.

DC Superhero High, a new live action comedy series from Charlie's Angels director Elizabeth Banks. Okay. So superheroes have been in high school and they're like, the Joker, you're doing too many pranks. Okay. The ventriloquist, nobody wants to see you stupid fucking weird dummy

you carry around with you, you weird creep. Yeah, stay in the library, you creep. Get out of here. What do you think this is? Do you think this will be modern Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, but they're in high school? Or do you think it will be kids Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, but they're in high school? Or do you think it'll be kids with superpowers in high school? I didn't know, but then I realized I'd put the synopsis here,

so I can tell you. We'll both find out together. This is incredible. The half-hour show will focus on a group of teenagers attending a boarding school for gifted children. The young heroes and villains are just trying to navigate the pressures of high school, but none of them realize that someday they will become legendary DC superheroes.

Okay. I guess it's an alternate reality where Wonder Woman and Superman... Well, I like Elizabeth Banks. Yeah, absolutely. Are you looking forward to Charlie's Angels Full Throttle? Is that next week? Is it Full Throttle?

I don't know. I like the cast. It's Half Throttle. Half Throttle. It's a prequel. It foots off the gas just a little bit. Every scene is them about to do some elaborate acrobatic flip and then somebody's like, all right, steady on.

Half Throttle. Half Throttle, mate. Come on. So I guess we'll do an episode on that. People have asked if we were going to do Charlie's Angels for the Caravan of Garbage, but we already did Pearl Harbor for Midway for some reason. Okay, sure.

That's next week. We already sacrificed three hours of our lives for Pearl Harbor. We're not happy about it, but we did it all right. Okay. All right. So this is going to be, this is going to be a sum of, well, this also defines some of DC's legendary heroes. Cause if you ask them.

We're talking like Booster Gold. Exactly. If you ask them. I mean, I love Booster Gold. Yeah. Blue Beetle and Booster Gold are the legendary heroes. But when you, when you think legendary DC heroes, it's Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman. It's the Trinity, isn't it?

I mean, Batman would be at a boarding school. He would. But Clark Kent be at a boarding school. No, he'd be on a farm. He'd be at a public school. Exactly. He'd be wearing the overalls with one strap coming off the side. Maybe it's a situation.

He's got a pitchfork. He's on a hay bale. He's on the back of a pickup truck. Maybe it's where they've all been discovered as their superpowers and they're put into a school. Maybe that's the universe. So it's X-Men. So it's X-Men, exactly.

I don't know why Batman's there, though. Yeah, right. They're like, he's pretty smart. He's too violent, that's why. Yeah, that's right. It's the only place where he's at. Basically, this is for people with superpowers and violent lunatics who have the equivalent of superpowers because of all the violence they've done.

That's right, yeah. Another interesting aspect of this is that the subscription service and studio will provide eight to ten movies a year, which could ramp up over time, and that stuff seems like the DC movies maybe worked into that. So they're going to be DC streaming movies. So these are new movies. Okay, so this is original that. Okay. So they're going to be DC streaming movies. So these are new movies. Yeah. Okay.

So, so, so this is original movies. Yes. This is probably going to be some combo of live action animation, maybe. Who knows? I think it's probably, yeah. More Sex and the City movies? Hope not. Unless they do that one where Big dies, which was the plan for Sex and the City 3, in which

case I'd be bang up for that. Wow. Is that really? Yeah. That was the plan. Wow. They're going to be like, Big has a heart attack. Oh, no.

It sucks good. Yeah, right. Because then she's free and single again. Carries. Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. And then it's just lost. Hey, New York,

what's a girl got to do to get her bloody husband buried around here? Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. I'm going to have to sell some of my shoes to pay for the funeral. It wouldn't surprise me

if they actually did Sex in the City 3 and you get a lot of people on board. And then Samantha's like, give him one more just before they put him on the ground. You can't say that, Samantha. You can't bloody say that. That's Charlotte or the other one. Yeah, it's Charlotte or the other one, yeah. Look, let's not pretend that I haven't seen every episode.

We've both seen every episode of Sex and the City. Your wife, Claire, was watching Old Sex and the City like a couple of weeks back and I just came over and I'm like, oh, it's the episode where it's the friend and she used to be wild in her younger years, but now it's the baby shower episode. And she's like, yeah, it is is you know what's up yeah the other thing is uh human curation will help customers cut through their options so leading to a more personalized

experience there's going to be a smaller category that also filters out the filler that nobody watches so oh my god so if you don't watch oh that's incredible so if nobody watches something it's gone yeah it's like a library if they don't watch, oh, that's incredible. So if nobody watches something, it's gone. Yeah. It's like a library. If they don't check out a book, nobody checks out a book in like five years. They burn them. Yeah. Is that true? They throw them out if nobody checks it out?

I think. I guess because they're constantly getting new books. They'd have to. Well, my mum used to be a librarian. Yeah. So I think, I mean, because they'd always, I mean, it might have been, I think it was a combination of like, you know, books that have been books that are too worn out and like that sort of stuff. But often they would do like every book's 50 cents or whatever,

and they'd just put them out in the front, and I guess it was just stuff that nobody wanted anymore. Yeah, fair enough. Brutal. Really makes you think, doesn't it? Yeah. And then I would buy them all and burn them. Like, cop this, mum.

And then you'd be on the phone the entire time. It'd be real insult to injury, you know what I mean? Yeah. You'd be like, this is new media. You'd shout into the sky. I would shout that, exactly. Very good. Anyway.

That's great. You know how these days we're inundated with, oh my God, save this show. We've got to save this show if it doesn't. Now imagine that with everything on a streaming service. Every day there's tweets. There's, oh my God, guys, we've got to watch this show. We need a minimum 100 watches of this show a day.

Otherwise they're going to delete it. So please, we're going to save that episode of Sex and the City. Just buy the DVD. Where Charlotte won't do butt stuff. And she's entitled to that. Yeah. That's fine. That's her priority.

Yeah. But yeah, this is... Anyway. This is... If this comes here to Australia, I'll probably be getting this, I'd imagine. This is another thing that... They've made it so like, well, I have to get this. But I mean, we don't have HBO at all. But I'm assuming that this is going to be a worldwide rollout, like Disney+.

Surely they'd look at that model. The other thing is, I just want someone to circumvent fucking Foxtel. See, that's what I'm saying is because here all that HBO stuff, well, a lot of it, I mean, Watchmen and Game of Thrones, they all go to Foxtel, which is our sort of basic cable service, which is terrible. So I'm wondering if they're going to. And that's the thing, we've never gotten HBO.

We also never got Hulu. We don't have Hulu, so I'm just wondering if they're like to – and that's the thing. We've never gotten HBO. We also never got Hulu. We don't have Hulu. So I'm just wondering if they're like, well, Australia is uncharted territory. We can't go there. It's probably in a lot of countries. I don't think they'd care about us specifically. Yeah, right. No, no, I think the president of HBO is a vendor.

No, no, he pretty confidently doesn't know where we are. But, yeah, I think if there was enough markets in the world to reach out to, then, yeah. I mean, surely also that would mean more money for them. I mean, I don't know how much money Foxtel forks over. It could be more than what they'd get in subscriptions. It might be, yeah. I hope so.

I hope their business model is falling apart. Yes, me too. Well, all my friends who worked for Foxtel got fired and they moved it all overseas. What? Yeah. They went to South Africa or something. Yeah, I know, right?

So that's where Foxtel's at. It's a dying, dying, dying industry. They've only got sport for now. And Watchmen somehow. Yeah, Watchmen. And Batwoman. They got, anyway, it doesn't matter. I haven't seen it yet.

No, neither have I. So The Mandalorian got a trailer, though. Looks great. It's about a minute and a half. He's pew-pewing Stormtroopers, isn't he? Oh, my God, he's pew-pewing left and right. Do you think he's pew-pewing too much? No, I think he's pew-pewing the correct amount.

That's what we want. We want a guy in Mandalorian armour pew-pewing about. Yeah. They said... What's Werner Herzog on about in this trailer? I can't remember. Bounty hunters, they are like caves and trees. Exactly.

Caves and trees. Exactly. Every time and trees. Exactly. Every time I hear him speak, I'm like, do you know what you're doing currently or are you just talking off the cuff about life? You're talking about his character from Shripply Pibbles from Rick and Morty, remember? Oh, yeah.

He needed Jerry's penis for his new heart. Yeah, that's a good question. I don't know whether he knows or cares, but he's a good addition to this universe, I feel. It just blows my mind that he also acts. Yeah. At all. Like what other directors do that?

Jon Favreau? Jon Favreau. Steven Spielberg in Austin Powers 3. Yep. Those are all the examples. Thank you. That's all I needed. I think Chris Pine does some directing.

But I don't know that for a fact. Sure, right. Elizabeth Banks, I guess. Yeah, there you go. Acts and directs. There we go. There's all I needed. I think Chris Pine does some directing. All right. But I don't know that for a fact. Sure, right. Elizabeth Banks, I guess. Yeah, there you go. Acts and directs. There we go. There's a lot of examples. Yes, one of the Chris's does some directing along with Elizabeth Banks.

But I wonder, James, when they act and also direct, do you think they wear different pants? Different pants. Different pants. Entirely possible, I guess. What would a director's pants look like? Would that be like a big pair of britches With suspenders And a big megaphone

But it's one of the Old school ones Where it's not Like electrified It's just paper For some reason Just yell into a big A big cone

You have to be within the cone To hear it Yeah that's what they have They have britches Jodhpurs sometimes Probably Big riding boots For some reason

A crop Like for threatening actors That step out of line So yeah So the Mandalorian looks good it's out on the 12th i believe and then it's the week later for here but off the back of that in star wars news fx is the veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret, the other a mission to reveal it

before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+. D.B. Weiss and David Benioff, I've said it backwards, the GOT bros themselves. Well, I think one of them would appreciate that. No doubt. D.B. Weiss would appreciate Benioff. I've said it backwards. The Geo Team Bros themselves. Well, I think one of them would appreciate that. No doubt. DB Weiss would appreciate coming first for a change. There we go.

They've left the new Star Wars trilogy or series that they were working on or writing or producing at any given time. They were certainly getting a lot of money for it, one would assume. It seemed to lessen because it was like series and it was like maybe a trilogy and then it was like I guess they're doing the first one

but maybe they're only writing the treatment and now it's like and they're gone. And they're gone. Well, because they've got that nine-figure Netflix deal to get to. Yeah, but I don't know. The timeline of this is strange. So basically this was the statement from them and Star Wars. It starts with we love Star Wars. Because they love Game of Thrones Yeah, that's right.

Because they love Game of Thrones too. That's right. When George Lucas built it, so on and so forth, getting to work in the universe, et cetera, and so forth. You know that paragraph. Although it wouldn't surprise me if they just put that out. They were just like, I'm putting some stuff about how we liked it, et cetera, and so forth.

And they were just like, yeah, close enough. What's anyone going to do? And then from Kathleen Kennedy, president of Lucasfilm, she says, David Benioff and Dan Weiss are incredible storytellers. We hope to include them in our journey forward when they're able to step away from their busy schedule to focus on Star Wars. There are only so many hours in a day, and we felt we could not do justice to both Star Wars and our Netflix projects, so we are regretfully stepping away.

Do you think they got fired? A hundred percent. Interesting. I think everybody involved in Star Wars movies who left has been fired to some extent. Okay, okay. Or there's been a creative differences, and then they're like, well, you're out because we're Lucasfilm and we don't give a shit. Yeah, right.

So there was a rumor. This is from Joanna Robinson. She works for Variety, but she did it on a Patreon podcast, and she was like, don't give a shit. Yeah, right. So there was a rumor, this from Joanna Robinson. She works for Variety, but she did it on a Patreon podcast, and she was like, it's just a rumor. It's not officially sourced or anything. So it's definitely officially sourced and 100% true. You know it. So I just want to add that caveat that they were fired in May

in relation to the finale of Game of Thrones. Oh, no. Yeah, and it was not announced because that gave them options to- They got trevorrowed. Yeah, exactly. It was not announced, so it gave them time to shop around elsewhere. So if they get fired for something, you've got that stink on you, and then you've got to go and try and get another deal.

So the Netflix stuff maybe came afterwards. My question is, what the fuck is going on at Lucasfilm? Right? Like, in all honesty, they've fired more directors than they've hired at this point. They make these big announcements. It's Josh Trank. It's Gareth Edwards, who technically didn't leave. It's Colin Trevorrow.

It's the bloody Spider-Verse guys. What are they called for Solo? Mr. and Mrs. Spider-Verse. That's right, yeah. And now it's this. And maybe Rian Johnson. Like, who's left? And maybe Rian Johnson. Who's left? It's Rian Johnson, Kevin Feige is producing something,

and J.J. Abrams, I guess for now, is still directing The Rise of Skywalker. Even though it's entirely possible. He might have been fired months ago. Based on this news you've given me, the Dee brothers were fired in May, potentially. Then maybe Rian Johnson's off and they've just gone. Maybe they've got Spielberg to finish it off or Ron Howard or something. Does it feel like they're just going for like a name?

Because if you look at when these people are hired, Gareth Edwards was hired off the back of Godzilla. Josh Trank off the back of Chronicle when he was working on Fantastic Four. Colin Trevorrow had done Jurassic World. And then they get them in and they're like, well, their vision doesn't line up with our vision. That's a good question. Or something happens, like a controversy, and they're like, well, their vision doesn't line up with our vision. That's a good question. Or something happens, like a controversy,

and they're like, well, they're out now. They're not hot anymore. Yeah, because I guess from what I understand it, a lot of how new directors are picked these days is they make a big splash with something. They make Splash the movie. They make the movie Splash. And then they get pit, like they do an indie thing,

like a cheap indie thing. And then they get pit, like they do an indie thing, like a cheap indie thing. And then they get hired. Cause then the, the people that hide, like the big Marvel or Disney or whatever can be like, well, we like him. We can also push him around.

Yeah. Kind of thing. That's right. And we get some heat and we get some kind of novel, you know, ideas for like, you know, scenes and whatever,

but all the action sequences that's out of their control or whatever. So I don't know. It's out of their control and whatever. So I don't know. It's entirely possible. Yeah. Yeah, because I don't really know the inner workings of this. Look, directors get hired and fired all the time. There's been 14 directors for that Flash movie that's probably not happening.

No, it's still happening. Hold that up. Okay, great. They've got to get to us eventually. Yeah. Oh, man, there's a lot of people between us and them. Well, they've got time. Anyway, that's true.

What else are we doing? This is no effort. Yeah, right? Shh. We can bang it out five days before we need to put it out. It's fine. It's absolutely fine. What if the Flash wore different pants?

Would he be faster? No. They'd tear off him. They'd tear off him. They'd tear off him unless they made of spaceships or whatever they were made of in. They were made of spaceships. The Zack Snyder one.

Directors. Yeah. I had a thought of directors. Oh, no. Well, my thought, I guess, is maybe at this point there's panic in the Lucasfilm slash Disney. The ranks. In the ranks because, I mean, we're approaching the end of the Lucasfilm slash Disney, the ranks in the ranks,

because I mean, we're approaching the end of time. We're approaching the end of time. There's almost no time left, but we're approaching the end of what, what is being, you know, as depicted as this nine movie saga.

Yes. This is, this is it for this saga. And now they have to start it all over again. And if the, what, what's going to happen is the people inside lucasfilm they'll be like well we just had a nine movie saga yeah so now we've got to build

the next nine movie saga for the next 30 years or whatever it's going to be well i mean realistically nine movies so the next nine years we need a we need a nine movie saga over the next nine or ten years that is equal to the saga we just got over the last 40 years or whatever but i think so who's gonna do that yeah well let's find one guy that's the thing and even though i i would like ryan johnson to do it yeah a lot of people do not like him or the last jedi but i also think even if you don't like the last jedi i think a lot of people also see that if he's given just free reign on his own thing, then maybe people could come around on that.

And I guess it depends on how Knives Out is received by the general public. Apparently it's very good. People are enjoying that. But in all honesty, when these guys got left fired, stepped away, creative differences, they've known George Lucas since they were kids and the influence cannot be et cetera and so forth. You know what I mean?

I'm not crushed about this, to be honest. No, absolutely not. If, yeah, whatever. I, and absolutely. And I think, I think there's going to be a lot of people with mixed feelings out there because there are a lot of, there's a lot of crossover between Game of Thrones fans and Star Wars fans. And some hate Kathleen Kennedy and some hate D.B.

Weiss and Dan, Dan, the other guy. Dan Bilzerian. Yeah, Dan Bilzerian. But also, it's like, well, who do you dislike more? Oh, exactly. That being said, like, those Game of Thrones guys, they nailed pretty much everything else about Game of Thrones. Except for the last arguably two seasons.

Except for where it counts. Yeah, except, yeah. I guess. No, but so I think that it's kind of unfair to be like, well, they suck. Because you've got that Twitter thread you brought to the table today. They appeared at a session at the Austin Film Festival, and they answered questions. This is from someone with the Twitter handle, at4aria.

Yeah. So maybe not entirely unbiased. Okay, sure. But it answers a lot of questions about their process of the making of Game of Thrones. Yes. Someone asked, did they go online? And David said, yes. but it answers a lot of questions about their process of the making of Game of Thrones. Someone asked, did they go online? And David said, yes. Dan literally said, we were geographically challenged and the maps were helpful.

So the people making maps on the internet about like, okay, well here's, based on the geography in the show, here's how the place must be built. And they're like, okay, good, we'll take those. But I think a lot of people who work on this kind of stuff would admit that like you would google it I don't think that's a big deal

David was also saying they went to fan casting pages that's how they find Jason Momoa Dan is saying that writers and source material end up in divorce and that their divorce was amicable since they ran out of material that certainly happened they were very nervous about the initial pitch because of how bad they wanted it uh david is describing the pre-meeting with grr martin who was questioning their bona

fides and we didn't really have any we'd never done tv and we didn't have any we didn't we don't know why he trusted us with his life's work sure that's fun everything we could make a mistake in we did script casting costume they think hbo went forward with the pilot because they had a lot of foreign pre-sales on the series. Yeah, that was famously redone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The pilot, they reshot most of it. This is the most telling tweet, I think. Two months before the pilot was to air,

the episodes were averaging 39 minutes and HBO made them write and film 100 minutes of scenes to meet their contractual obligations. For example, they added a scene with Robert and Cersei and realised there was no scene with them. Dan is saying that he let the actors redefine the roles, especially Maisie. Did you see Maisie Williams' Hot Ones episode?

I did, yeah. And she was apparently saying that Arya Stark is left-handed in the books and they were teaching her how to use swords and stuff with her right hand and she had to go, okay, no, we are going to get, the fans will riot if I don't do this correctly. So apparently a lot of that kind of stuff was happening. All of these things, though, I think if they had nailed the ending, I think people would be like, well, they didn't have any experience.

I agree, yeah, yeah. And actors have a lot of input into characters all the's true yeah it would have been like look at this collaborative process look at this amazing thing we all put together but you're right i think they they wrote all the episodes by themselves except for their assistant wrote four episodes yes dan wanted to remove as many fantasy elements as possible i think this is the one that upsets people the most yeah because we just didn't want to appeal to that type of fan we want to expand expand the fan base to people beyond the fantasy fan base to mothers, NFL players.

Yeah, I think that's not, but I think that's okay also because that's what got a lot of people in, and then they slowly did introduce the fantasy elements. That's true, yeah. Because it's just the reality of that show where you're going to have to hit upon that stuff eventually. They kind of snuck it in as kind of. It's more historical than it is.

Yeah, or it's kind of like bloody, what's his name? You're going to get dads who love history and war. Yeah, exactly. And then they're like, drag, it's all right. Ah, but I've already watched it. I've already committed. I'm four, five seasons in. Yeah.

Yeah, there's also pushback because David Benioff's father worked for Goldman Sachs. It was like a former head of. So people are like, well, he was already kind of like, you know, he had everything handed to him. Oh, I see. Right, right. Gotcha. form ahead of so people like well he was already kind of like you know you had everything handed to him oh i see right gotcha but also like yeah that sucks but that's also the reality of pretty much every high paying high power job ever everywhere all the time yeah you get it if your dad had it yeah yeah yeah yeah huh yeah so i don't i don't know i don't know where this is going but again i think you're right i think if they had nailed the ending.

But again, as someone who is a non-fan of the Game of Thrones series, and as I understand it, HBO was willing to give them enough time and money to just keep making Game of Thrones forever, essentially, to finish it off correctly, and they went, we want to do Star Wars, so we can knock this out in six. Why not? And then they didn't. We want to do Star Wars. We can knock this out in six. Why not? And then they didn't. They didn't do Star Wars, yeah.

And maybe the timeline of that doesn't line up at all, but it seems like it could very well. It's also, yeah. So we'll just have to see. Let's convict them in the court of public opinion. Agreed. Nice. Oh, HelloFresh.

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Yes. Terminator Dark Fate. We haven't got official box office numbers the world over yet, but it did open in the UK, Germany, Belgium, France, Switzerland, Austria, Sweden, Thailand, Singapore and Malaysia over the previous weekend. Oh, yes. But the early box office estimate that it's made about $12.8 million worldwide. Seems low.

That's very low and bad. And that includes Belgium, who famously love the Terminator. So there you go. So let me just check the budget of this. Can you check, what about Austria's box office? Good question. $185 million. That's not good at all.

Anyway, maybe it'll have a stellar opening everywhere else in the world. Yeah, right. So it hasn't opened in America. Well, it has now. Okay, right. But when we're recording this, no. It has not, yes. But also in the UK charts, it fell behind Joker, Maleficent,

Mistress of Evil and The Addams Family over its opening weekend. So that's not good either. I don't necessarily think it's because of this film because I think it's fine. I agree, yes. But it might also be that, but it's also because we've had sequel after sequel, which is absolute dog shit. It might be too, yeah. And if people are like, well, Arnie's also be that, but it's also because we've had sequel after sequel, which is absolute dog shit. It might be, too, yeah. And if people are like, well, Arnie's back.

Yeah, we know. He was back. He was old in the last one. Yeah, right. So, you know. Yeah. And maybe Linda Hamilton wasn't enough to kind of get people on board. Maybe people remember Terminator 3.

Maybe they do. Just the idea of remembering Terminator 3 is enough for a lot of people. It's enough. I don't know, man. In all honesty, what do you think the story was? Oh, no. It's the sequel to Terminator 2, isn't it? Yeah.

So it's direct. It's after the events of Terminator 2. The team, the Terminator team. The T2 team. The T2 team. The T2 team. They saved the world from being destroyed on August 29, 1997. Oh, do they?

And now it's the modern day. Or is it? It is. Yeah. They did and it is. How dare you question me? But maybe there's some other Terminators in store for everyone. You know what I mean?

Maybe there is. Maybe there's some people coming back in time to stop the Terminator. You know what I mean? That's right. Maybe the Terminator's in this. Maybe Arnie's in it. Maybe Linda Hamilton's back. She is.

She is. She's on the poster. What excited me about this the most was the return of Sarah Connor properly. Though she is actually technically in Terminator Salvation. She does voiceover in that movie. Oh, yeah, that's right. So Linda Hamilton returns. She looks like, as I've said before,

she's just been doing chin-ups and smoking cigarettes for the 30 years in in between and she might have been yeah but i love the look of that character now you know she's not like hollywood glamorized and i don't mean this is an insult but she just looks like a regular like 60 year old ish person do you know what i mean and you know she spent like a year in training to get like to kind of get back into shape and then they put a fake butt and boobs on her apparently did they kind of like fill her out a little bit. Yeah, but she said she didn't eat carbs for like a year to get ready for this role. Wow, dedication, okay. She said it was a lot harder because, you know,

you don't have any of your hormones or anything that you have, you know, when you're in your 30s or whatever. So when she did the last one. You're a husk. She nubs her harder. You're a husk with a fake butt. That's right. What kind of password do you need to contain a fake butt? Hashtag husk with a fake butt. That's right. What kind of pants would you need to contain a fake butt?

Hashtag husk with a fake butt. Hut with a fake butt. Jab at a hut with a fake butt. How does that work for the butts of it? I don't know. I feel like they just secrete. They probably just secrete. Just all over.

Yeah, yeah. Anyway, I think for the most part, she's really good in returning. Do you disagree with that? No, I agree with that. She has some emotional stuff. She does some tough stuff. Tough stuff. She has to do some tough stuff.

Yes, correct. She's still convincing as an action hero, despite not having done this for decades, presumably because she's rich and she's just like, why would I? Yeah, I wondered about that as well. Like what lured her back, I wonder. Was it the fake boobs and butt?

Maybe it was. Yoohoo! Somebody held them up. No, I wonder? Arnie. Was it the fake boobs and butt? Maybe it was. Yoohoo. Somebody held them up. Yeah. No, I don't know. I think she liked the story by all accounts, but also probably money. I'd imagine a lot of this $185 million went to her and Arnie. I'd hope so.

I'd imagine. But I think she's effectively used. But also, I think Arnie is better used in this one than he is in everything prior to this. Obviously, except for T1 and T2, which are also great. He's kind of used sparingly in this one than he is in everything prior to this, obviously except for T1 and T2, which are also great. Because he's kind of used sparingly in this. He's not like at the forefront of this movie. Yeah, right. Would you disagree with that? No, I think I agree with that.

Also, for the most part, he may as well just be the one from Terminator 2. Like he's essentially like, it's that one, but it's 30 years later. Yeah, what happened is we thought we put him in molten steel, from Terminator 2. Like he's essentially, it's that one, but it's 30 years later. Yeah, what happened is we thought we'd put him in molten steel, but actually that was liquid candy and he came out the bottom. He swirled out the bottom. The big poop. Yeah, exactly.

And then he just, he's back. I mean, they do explain the return of that particular model and where he's from and why he is the way he is. And I'm happy with all of that. I thought it was a really interesting kind of twist on them. We should talk about that in spoilers, I think. But the origin of that particular Terminator, I think, is interesting. And I wonder how much of that you buy

and how much of that I wonder the general public buys. Yeah, well, that's a good question. Or fans of the Terminator franchise will be like like i'm on board with this version of the character because the thing about this story is as well they take a bunch of established stuff and they throw it away yes but i think for the most part it works but i think narratively it's it's a bit all over the place in terms of like pacing and yeah right i'm not i'm not i think a lot of this will be discussing in spoilers because I think, again, that we can't really talk about until...

It relates to the time travel and this and then that. Which I think is... Remind me, but I think that's quite clever in the manner of another movie that has done something similar in years past, which we'll talk about. Yes, Back to the Future 2. Back to the Future 2, exactly. Yeah, excellent.

Well, three, I mean, Because he comes back In a big train Toot toot It's me the Terminator I'm back Look at my big Train driver hat So I

There's kind of a new Sarah Connor As in like From the first Terminator In Danny Yes I thought she was Okay

For the most part I didn't think she was okay for the most part. I didn't think she was as compelling as the original Sarah Connor. She does have some good moments and there's some tragedy to that character which befalls her because she's being chased by a Terminator. Yes. But there's like moments where like at the end they're like, no, this is where we make our stand. We're going to do the final stand here.

This is where we fight. And I'm thinking this is a bad place and you are clearly outmatched i mean spoiler alert maybe everything works out all right but it's kind of like that's not a good like leadership kind of call that you're making like i understand that you've grown as a character but this is a tactically this is a very no no all you need to do to become a leader is make big choices and if they're bad you blame someone else that's delegating that's what leadership's all about yeah but you know she's fine for the most part i should say what do you think what do you think i quite like it yeah yeah uh how do you feel about rev nine the new terminator loved it whoever

that guy is great diego maradona yes the soccer player what is his name he's the ghost writer name oh hang on what's his name wait is he the guy from Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.? Correct. Oh. There you go. Well, I didn't even recognise him. Gabriel Luna. I get him confused with the guy from Rogue One.

Yeah, I thought he was great. And I think the design of that Terminator is the best one since the T-1000. Because they actually justify it having different abilities. Whereas, like, the Terminator 3 one, it's like this is a worse Terminator. It is kind of, yeah. You know, it can be broken. This guy's like mostly indestructible. And the splitting in two, it's pretty useful.

It's very, I did find a bit of the CGI of him a bit bouncy and rubbery. There's a bit where it's like a factory at the start and you see him kind of leap up and scutter along. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think that maybe gets a little bit worse when he's separated into. His boogly form? Yeah, boogly form and metal form. And I think boogly form, they're like, well,

we've got some license here to make him a bit more rubbery. Yeah. And it doesn't entirely work. But I think, yeah, I mean, and he does. And I think maybe that's also a testament to the writing and directing that they are. What works best about the Terminators in this movie is they are, for the most part, silent killers.

Yes. Again, like they were in Terminator 2. Yeah. It's just two silent monsters coming at each other. He talks when he needs to talk. Yes. You know, he'll talk if he wants a bit of information, but that's it. He doesn't quip on one line.

There is a moment at the end where he's after Danny at the very end and he stops and has a conversation. But the conversation, to me, it was framed as, this is just an easier way for me to get what I want. Yeah, right. You know, because there's a chance that I could lose this battle. So if I can talk my way through it, this is a more efficient way. Because, you know, he's kind of like, you don't have to do this.

If you just give me the girl, I'll be out of your hair. Sure. Yeah, but I thought that worked. I thought he really worked well. He had that kind of Robert Patrick kind of charm as well. Yes, exactly. You know, if you're sending somebody back in time to do some murders and you need him to infiltrate, make him a little bit charming.

Yes. There's some spoilers for that, for this movie that are in the trailer including that he can split in two uh-huh i really wish that i didn't know that going in yeah i can understand why they used it as a selling point again that's terminate but that being said there's a bunch of massive stuff which they did not spoil the marketing to their credit yeah yeah i you. You know what I really like, though? I really like Grace as the Terminator-human hybrid person. Again, spoilers. Spoilers. I mean, that's in the trailer as well.

It's in the trailer, right, yeah. So she's basically an enhanced human who can go up against a Terminator for a brief window. Yes. But I thought she was great. It felt very kind of Kyle Reese-ish. Yes. Where you're outmatched.

You're mostly running. You can kind of, you can hold your ground for a little bit and it's like, we got to go because I'm not. Yeah, right. I thought her interactions with Linda Hamilton were great. Yes. I think that's the best pairing in the. Definitely.

I thought she was terrific. And I think she also looks the part, like physically. She looks like, there's a moment at the start in the steel mill where she's just bashing him with the sledgehammer, and it's terrific. Yes, it is. That's true. Yeah, it's just she's really great.

And I know there's some people who are like, well, this is a feminized bloody Terminator universe. And I guess it is because the three leads, except for Arnie, are female. But I thought it worked really well. I thought, like, for the most part, yeah. Yeah. Also, there's been a female lead in these for since the first one that's true so i think there's people like well look at her she's got a boy's haircut that a lot of the comments are that in

my great youtube are just like but she's got short hair yeah imagine imagine a woman having short hair well if you don't like this one just watch terminator 2 again yeah that's right stay in your home and watch terminator 2 again also she's from's right. Just stay in your home and watch Terminator 2 again. Also, she's from a future where there's a bunch of robot monsters running around. You'd probably keep your hair short or out of your face for the most part, I'd imagine. No, you want to keep your hair long so somebody can strangle you with it. That's what you want. On the back of all that, this is not Terminator 2.

No, although it does do a bunch of things. It attempts to copy the Terminator playbook. It's got, you know. A freeway chase. It's got a freeway chase. A morphing one. A robot. Machine guns and helicopters. Linda Hamilton.

Drones. That's new. Yes. Getting into the internet. That's new. That's right. Sort of. They did it in T3.

Yeah. Yeah, so I think it's kind of... But I mean, what do people want? If you deviate too far from the formula, again, it's just another... It's better than the movies. I don't know whether I like it more than the Sarah Connor Chronicles. Really?

I probably don't. Okay. Because I recently re-watched that. We did it for Caravan of Garbage. And the action is solid. It's way less CGIgi than genesis remember that bit where arnie bounces on the bridge and his head goes through the yeah the car window the factory fight especially i think is really really good and it and it you know it makes sense

that it's and that's that's something i guess we haven't seen before is like uh this enhanced human who seemed who has sort of like a predictive AI system that enables her to sort of perceive what's coming up. Like you see it quite early on. And so it's a fight between two fast, powerful, just bloody robots. Robots sort of. One's got a human heart. It is kind of like a game Chess, but punching people.

And sledgehammers. Sledgehammers, yeah. Yeah. Did you like the action scenes for the most part? I think I did for the most part, yeah. Yeah, look, again, I think it's, I mean, it does also set up stuff for the future, but way less so than Genesis where it was like,

well, now we've got to go on another adventure. This feels like, and by the sounds of the box office, it could very well be the last one of these. So if it is, that means we've completed our failed Terminator trilogy. Good, good. Excited for that? Yes. Salvation. Yep. Genesis?

And this. Sure. Because I guess Terminator 3 was technically in the first trilogy. I guess technically. Yeah, should we do spoilers? Let's do spoilers. I'm going to say best movie ever for this one I think it's It's pretty It's pretty decent

Yeah I think it's worth a watch definitely Yeah And a big screen Worth a watch Big screen worth a watch Anyway spoilers Did you do any big screams in the movie? I did not do a single big scream

Okay spoilers Anyway what I was talking about earlier Is that I think The clever thing they've done here Is that they have For people who are like Well this is just I mean this is just, I mean, this is just, they're getting rid of all the old movies.

I mean, well, I love Genesis. I love Salvation. It's a great wall movie. Is anyone saying that? People like Salvation a lot. It sucks. Some people. But remember how Star Trek rebooted Star Trek,

but they were like, but it's a parallel timeline. All the other stuff is just shunted off into another reality. That's still canon, but it's just separate. In this movie, all the other stuff is still technically... Well, it happened because there's still remnants of it in the modern day. It still happened, but this is a sort of a parallel timeline in which Skynet was eliminated

but was replaced with Legion. Yes. And what I thought was really – so basically it opens with the death of kid John Connor. Yeah. Do you think they got Edward Furlong in for that? I don't think so. They got his face.

Yeah, they should have, yeah. Maybe they did get him in. I don't know. He's credited. Yeah. But that could just be because they used a different – That also is flawless. But you know why it is? Why's because nobody says anything yeah right i i was

like mind boggled by how good that i thought that initially i thought well maybe that is that's old footage from terminator 2 that they cut out yeah from the end because in the in the novelization and the comic book adaptation or whatever there's's a scene where Linda Hamilton wakes up. It's the future. It's a peaceable future. There's a deleted scene of that, whether at the playground or whatever. Yeah, right, right, right. But this is like a year after Judgment Day.

Yeah, it's like even the hair on Linda Hamilton and John Connor. And when the C-800 walks in, I mean, they'd already perfected that, I feel, in Genesis Genesis It's the same guy They've got the same guy Oh right okay sure To be the body double But when you put him behind sunglasses And he doesn't say anything

Yeah It just It's incredible It looks so good Uh huh But I was expecting John Connor to die But I also think it's I feel like

No admit it You were hoping for John Connor to die I was But I also feel like that John Connor, even in Terminator 2, he's not as interesting a character as Sarah Connor. I think they've tried to make him more interesting in subsequent movies, but he's never kind of fulfilled that potential. But I think in killing him, it's not so much pushing him to the side,

it's he's fulfilled his purpose. He did save the future. He is the saviour of humanity. So maybe he doesn't have a purpose anymore. And I think that's also what's interesting. And isn't that what all this whole movie is about? That's what it's all about. But I think also that's interesting about Sarah Connor.

You see almost a resentfulness when she talks about how she saves the future and nobody knows or cares. Yeah. Even the people from the future like no the future is still ruined and we've never heard of you so thanks yeah that's right exactly and i thought that was and she kind of feels i kind of felt that she felt like what am i even doing for this kind of thing what's my purpose yeah you know anymore she's bitter and resentful because she's lost everything and for what? It just happens slightly differently.

That's true. So the Terminator and this Carl, so the Terminator that killed John Connor in the end, eventually, he has no purpose anymore. So he just leaves. He looks like the fun in the sun model. Yeah, right? That he is.

Just looks like he's just going to walk into the ocean. Yeah. And maybe he does. He probably does. But then he has no purpose. And rather than just sort of boarding himself up in a grave or something like that, he just sort of wanders around and eventually he discovers purpose in this family that he can help somehow.

And then he decides to give Sarah Connor purpose because he can detect time travel energy as it's about to occur. And so he keeps texting her locations of other, I assume Skynet Terminators that keep coming through? I don't think so. I don't think they would be. I'm interested to know because she's wiped out a few Terminators prior to that. I assume they're the early model Legion versions.

Yeah, right. Because otherwise she wouldn't be able to, she couldn't kill a Rev-9. One thing that did annoy me about that a little bit is I feel like there should have been more clues in the Terminators that we see, especially the future Terminators, that it is Legion and not Skynet. Yeah, it's mostly...

I guess you could say, if you wanted to explain it, well, that's the optimum robot design for killing humans, and so an AI would build that automatically. But I feel like there should have been a couple of clues in the one where we'd go, that's an interesting redesign. I wonder why they've done that. Yeah, you're right.

It's not that different. Then we get the reveal and we go, oh, well, that makes sense because it's a different AI. Yeah. But what can you do? Anyway, so he's given her this purpose. Make her own sequel. Yeah.

Well, we're going to have to, aren't we? It's going to get to us eventually. That's right. What were you going to say though? Sorry.'t we? It's got to get to us eventually. That's right. What were you going to say though? Sorry. I can't remember. Skynet's gone though. Skynet is gone though.

For the most part. Was Skynet hell on a bottom card for a minute? Yeah. In Salvation. You didn't dream that. That happened. Well, it's not hell on a bottom card anymore. That's right.

Yeah. This isn't your granddaddy's wife if your granddaddy's Tim Burton. So this new Judgment Day, we don't get a date on it. I've got a timeline video on it. But Grace comes from 2033, which is several years after Skynet is defeated in the original timeline. Was it 2043 or 23? I think it was 2033.

Okay, cool. But the original Skynet was tweeted in 2029, I think. I feel like also you could bring back the Arnold character by you could maybe get the chip out of him. Yeah, I wondered about that as well, but he was quite melty at the end. Yeah, but still encased in his head. That would mean you'd have to get another T-800, I guess.

And also Grace removes her power source, so maybe you could get her another power source potentially if you wanted to bring her back. Because I think it's a shame that they killed those two characters because I would have liked to have seen at least one of them continue on in a sequel that we're probably not going to get. Yeah, right. I think that's a beautiful dream at this point.

We're not going to get any more. No, we're not. Well, we'll probably get a TV series, I'd imagine now. I think so. Yeah, probably. What? Yeah, I reckon. Because it's like, well, this is no longer a movie property.

This is a TV property. Oh, I things yeah eventually which is what happened to the terminator franchise exactly what happened to the terminator franchise so yeah i look i think it's it's it's got some good ideas it's just not great like i was it was better than i i wasn't expecting it to be as good as it was yeah and. And I kind of want to see it again, but I'll, but I'll wait. Like I won't, I'm not going to go out and see it again because there's some, yeah,

there's some, I think there's some good ideas in this movie that I thought was going to be mostly shit. You know what I liked? All the different operating systems. Oh yeah. I liked it. I liked the way Arnold still had his old,

like 1980s operating system. And, and Grace had a, like like, a new fancy one. Yeah, she had a fancy one. Did you see his? I don't think we did. You do, briefly, yeah. You went to the toilet.

Did I? You went to the toilet. Why did I go to the toilet, Mason? Because that's what you do now, apparently. You don't prepare beforehand. I really didn't because I was running late. So, all in all, they made another one, didn't they? They sure did.

And what's next for the Terminator? We don't know the box office, so we don't know. Well, you think it's a TV show, so. Yeah, eventually at some point. Animated series? Animated series of animated movies. That's my pick. Yeah, I'll take that.

Well, that was a plan at one point as well. Here's my pick. I think the next thing they're going to do is at least one animated movie. They're going to maybe bring back Grace somehow. Yeah, right. Do like a prequel in the future kind of thing? Yeah, maybe. Do you want to see the future war properly?

I know we technically got it in. Not really. Yeah. Dogs eating a fly out there. Okay, nice. I don't know. I get it. I don't want to see people.

Sitting in the dirt. Sitting in the dirt starving. I'm not really interested in that. Yeah, me neither. And I don't really care about the character of Danny as much as I do Sarah Connor or Grace or Terminator. The other Terminators. That's dead. Terminators, Mason.

Yeah, Terminators, yeah. They've done it. All right, is that the end? I think that's the end. Not of the podcast, though, because it's... We've got more to the podcast. We've got to What Are We Reading? What Are We Reading?

What Are We Going to Read? I'm doing the thing. What are we reading today? I love What Are We Reading? Because we get to talk about what are we reading. And what we're going to read. Yeah, what are you reading? Well, it's been like two days.

I know. I finished Deceased. Oh, yes, how's that going issue six i kind of it's kind of a bit open-ended i'm kind of annoyed that it didn't definitively like oh i say like well i'll come back to this well did it end did it end open-endedly so there is room for a sequel seems to be yeah right so i was kind of like how do you feel about that i mean yeah good but i'm kind of like well i feel like there's another issue here that I've missed. But it's still good.

It's a great comic. I'd still recommend it. But you'd read a sequel though? Yeah. Okay. So it doesn't feel like there's not enough material for a sequel and they're just teasing out a sequel? No.

The way they set it up where it's like, okay, I can see how that would take this in. I'd love to talk about it. I'd love to spoil it, but for one, you haven't read it. I'll read it this week. Please do. Now you've got all six. But I also read Joker, Kill a Smile, the issue one by Jeff Lemire.

I love Jeff Lemire. So basically it's a world where the Joker is the Joker, but he's in Arkham Asylum for being the Joker. Yep. And a psychologist, psychologist, psychologist, doctor, doctor is speaking to him. Oh, yeah, a brain doctor. A brain doctor.

But not the cutty brain doctor. No. Maybe it gets to that point. A thinky brain doctor. A thinky brain doctor. A words, you say words, you say words person. Like a psychiatrist. Yes.

Okay. Maybe. I don't know if that's the word for it. But he wants to cure the Joker. But who's jokering who, it turns out. So you see some things in his life are like, is something happening to this guy by being around the Joker? Oh, he's going to turn into the new Harley Quinn.

That's right. Wow. I mean, he's already got the shorts from Suicide Squad, the movie. I get it. Cool. What would that look like? Oh, my God. But, I mean, it's Jeff Lemieux. Okay. Well, I like Jeff Lemieux. I have been reading Cool. What would that look like? Oh my god. But it's

definitely. I have been reading I'm not quite up to date but I have been I think I mentioned last week I have been reading trying to catch up on Black Hammer. Oh yeah. I finished that. There's that and there's Age of Doom which is the most recent one and there's a bunch of spin-offs which I've got to get to. Sounds like you're having a grand old time.

Oh what I did watch. I watched Dolomite is my name. Oh me too. I talked about it in Suggestible. It's good, right? It's great. Why hasn't Eddie Murphy been doing this for years? Because Norbert. Oh, yeah, he did Norbert. And he's rich.

I guess so. Yeah. So why is he back? Because he's rich and he can do what he wants. I guess. Whatever he does, it's because he's rich. Yeah, that's probably true, yeah. It's an excellent performance by him as well.

So it's the story of a guy called Rudy Ray Moore who I guess failed out of doing a bunch of other stuff like singing and doing comedy. Singing and dancing and what the hell happened. And then he learns all these sort of crazy street stories about a cool cat called Dolomite and decides to bring that to life as a character. That's right.

And apparently Dolomite the movie is on Amazon Prime, so I might watch that this week. Oh, right, okay. Yeah, it got me interested actually. The famous blaxploitation character. Because I've seen clips of it and there's a few clips at the end and it just looks ridiculous. Oh, yeah, for sure.

But what I loved about, I talked about it in Suggestible, but I love the passion that he has for this dumb thing. Yeah, right. But the heart clearly comes through in the work. It's like an Ed Wood situation. It's exactly like that. Like it's a dumb thing. I mean, probably better.

Oh, yeah. It seems better than Ed Wood. But, you know, it's... I think it's intentionally funnier than Ed Wood, I guess, was supposed to be. Yeah, yeah. But just the idea of passion wins out over capitalism, I guess. And you know who I thought was really good in this? Wesley Sn yeah. Yeah, yeah. But just the idea of passion wins out over capitalism, I guess. And you know who I thought was really good in this? Wesley Snipes.

Yeah, right. I've never seen him do a role kind of like that because he kind of plays this kind of pompous, kind of fancy kind of actor who's kind of, all this stuff is below him. And just his mannerisms, the way he talks. Because he's normally like he's a gruff kind of tough guy. Yeah, for sure. I thought he was really good in this as well. I mean, it's he talks. Because he's normally like he's a gruff kind of tough guy. Yeah, for sure.

I thought he was really good in this as well. I mean, it's on Netflix. Everyone's got Netflix. Well, sure, yeah. Watch Netflix. Yeah, I mean, if you haven't cancelled Netflix to get HBO Max or whatever. That's right. When are we getting Disney Plus?

Is that? Mid-November for us. Okay, cool. Nice. Anything else? I think that's the lot. Then let's do The Letters. Okay, we want to watch Dolomite.

Everybody watch Dolomite. Let me know. The classic one was The Letters. Oh, Let lot. Then let's do the letters. Okay, we want to watch Dolomite. Everybody watch Dolomite and let me know. The classic one was... Letters, oh letters, we love you. Some letters, they're only a day away. I know they're here right now. We're going to do letters. Oh my goodness, it's time for letters.

I didn't have many. I've only got one tweet because I didn't put out the bloody call to bloody action, mate. I understand. But if you've got a letter, hashtag WeeklyPlanetPod on Twitter to send it our way or WeeklyPlanetPod at gmail.com. This one's from Cole Brust. Hi, Cole Brust. It says, hello from a...

What was that, Mason? Did you drop a handful of coins? Yeah, I dropped this delightful movement bracelet, which is here for some reason. Oh, so good. It's not mine, is it, Baz? It's Claire's, yeah. Okay, right.

This is from Cole Brust. It says, hello from a fellow well-travelled person. Hey, James and Mace, I've been listening to this show since my junior year of college and haven't missed an episode since. Well, thank you. Yes. Of all the Planet Broadcasting shows, you all are for sure my favourite. But Jess, Dave and Matt are a close second.

You're goddamn right they are. They're killing it over a blocktober recently. They did an episode on the Black Dahlia murders Oh right yeah That's grim Yes it is And there's no killer Nobody knows who done it

Spoiler alert Since I graduated from Baylor University I've been volunteering with the US Peace Corps In Mozambique, Africa Where I teach high school English Hmm Wonder who else did that Nobody I know

Okay cool Was it you? No it was me I did that Yeah it was you You did that Yeah Anyways There aren. Okay, cool. Was it you? No, it was me. I did that. Yeah, it was you. You did that. Anyways, there aren't any theatres within hours of my site, so I haven't been able to see all the latest movies over the past months.

Your podcast has been great for keeping me up to date with everything movie related, so thank you guys. What country was that, sorry? Mozambique. Different country from where I was. No, that's you were in Tanzania. Oh, interesting. Yeah, you just kind of don't watch movies for a year,

or however long he's there. He also wants to know what your dog's name is. Ollie. Your dog's name is Ollie. Yeah. And she's banging at the door. She's banging at the door right now. She's got a fly.

She wants to show us the fly. Yeah. The movie. Yeah, she wants to show us the fly. Exactly. And she'll insist we'll watch the sequel, but I'm not really interested if I'm honest. Yeah, right. Yeah.

Son of Fly? I can't remember what it's called. Was it just Fly 2? Lil Fly Jr. To Fly. To Fly. To Fly. To Fluirious. Flurious? To... yep.

Don't bother. Okay. We don't need to keep this going. I was going to say. All I had loaded was to fluoride and that doesn't even make any sense. Flies don't have teeth, to the best of my knowledge. No, I don't think so. On Twitter, this is from Millennium Pigeon hashtag weekly planet pod

for the next big threat in the MCU would you like to see Doctor Doom put together a cabal type team of super villains that he recruits in the various

post credits scene who would you like to be on it what do you think of that I mean maybe I think that my issue there I guess is that

how has nobody the thing about Doctor Doom is what's he been doing for the last 10 years? You know what I mean? Where has he been? It depends on his time. How old is he?

Yeah, right. Is he just emerging now, I guess? Is he from another dimension or whatever? Is he from another dimension? A timeline? I wonder. Look, maybe my... I would maybe hope for the Mandarin being that villain

because he's going to appear in Shang-Chi. Correct. There was some plot reveals this week, I think, maybe. Something like that. We spoke to somebody who got to do a tour of the studios, remember? We can't name who, but this particular person said that they saw a lot of bamboo in the concept art. That's all they remember.

So get ready for that. Gear up. But I think it may be, rumours are swirling that suggest that the Shang-Chi in this case might be the son of the Mandarin. I'll take that. Pretty good, right? Great.

Pretty good, because it can't be Fu Manchu anymore. No. I mean, we'll miss it because it's PC gone mad, and that's the kind of culture that we rally against. Exactly. But, I guess. What can you do? What can you do?

That's right, yeah. Yeah. Anything else? This is from Seth Morland. For your podcast intro, it says. Okay. Just use a recording where the word not is inserted before shooting up your butthole. That's not a bad idea, actually.

Then it will no longer be inappropriate as nothing is going up anyone's butthole. Thank you, Seth. But are they still putting the idea in the mind? You know what I mean? No, no, absolutely not. Because it's not. Because it's not. Exactly, yeah.

Actually, I do have a tweet here from Bernard related to the theme song. It says, change the theme song to the Defenders of the Earth theme song. Defenders of the Earth. Defenders. Out of the sky. I've got to go, yeah.

Got everyone. Jets into battle, flying faster than light. Flash Gordon. Lord of the jungle Jungle the hero who stops the beasts call him brother the ghost of war

Phantom Defenders of the Earth You can't hear that Mason but I can hear it I was trying I was trying to find a point to go Lothar but I couldn't

I've shortened it Oh I see right I've done an edit version there Anyways that's the show though isn't it Sorry it's a bit shorter, but that's life. Get over it.

Oh, speaking of, here's an email from Nick Short. Okay. Hello there, Nick and Mason. Yes. I live in Bendigo and I have reason to believe that the people in Castle Mayne are sheep shaggers. I knew it. Yeah.

I got family up there. I'm going to ring my uncle. I'll see what's going on. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if in 10 years it's revealed that there has been some sort of Midsummer-esque cult thing going on there for decades. Wouldn't surprise me either. You said Midsummer? Then there's a lot of paragraph breaks and he's written probably Kyneton too.

Kyneton. I know Kyneton. Oh, I love these specific references. Oh my God, so specific. Kyneton. They're specific and local. What a world. Oh my goodness.

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