The Weekly Planet - 31 Best/Worst Cancelled CBM's Part 1

Episode Date: April 28, 2014

This week we discuss three of the greatest/dumbest/weirdest comic book movies ever to not grace the silver screen.Along with news of Age Of Ultron, Star Trek, The Hobbit, Star Wars, Batman VS Superman and more! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Will you rise with the sun to help change mental health care forever? Join the Sunrise Challenge to raise funds for CAMH, the Centre for Addiction and Mental Health, to support life-saving progress in mental health care. From May 27th to 31st, people across Canada will rise together and show those living with mental illness and addiction that they're not alone. Help CAMH build a future where no one is left behind. So, who will you rise for?

Register today at sunrisechallenge.ca. That's sunrisechallenge.ca. I can start? Yes. I can has cheeseburger? Don't do that. No. No, that's so out of date.

Why would you? Ugh. Mr. Memes over here. Whenever you see it on television, you know it's over. You know what I mean? Absolutely. Yeah. When it's on Big Bang Theory, you know it's over. Yeah, absolutely. When it's on Big Bang Theory, you know it's over.

Yeah. Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Weekly Planet, official podcast of ComicBookMovie.com. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday, junior editor at that site with me as always my co-host nick maso jip danger cock mason it's me everyone hi you're back yes how you feeling as if there was any doubt well i would be back sometimes you disappear for months on end that's true where do you go but what i do is i pre-record all my responses to the things that you say on this podcast and you just slot them in.

And it's worked out pretty well so far, right? So far, yeah. So far, so good. All right, all right. Now, Mason... What do you mean, Shia LaBeouf? See? Seamless.

That guy's been lying, though, hasn't he? He has been lying very long, I'm glad. Yeah, good. Hopefully under a bus. Anyway, I'm good. I'm very well. Great to hear. Now, before we get into the news, Mason, I just want to quickly YouTube update thing.

People keep asking me. Yeah. Basically, a guy named Ben who works for the Yogcast. This is a massive UK network of YouTube channels in the UK, which makes sense. He reached out and said, listen, I've had some luck getting some people back online before. Give me some details or whatever. I'm happy to email my guy because they've got,

well, their main channel has something like six million subscribers. They've got direct access. And he was kind enough to reach out and do that and say, listen, I can help you out.

So there's a good chance in the next few weeks that I'll be coming back. A few weeks is a long time. It is. That's all right because I had nothing and this guy really,

you know, he's really come through and I appreciate it. Even if it doesn't work out, what a great guy. But I'll get it. It better work out.'s really come through and I appreciate it. Even if it doesn't work out, what a great guy. But I'll get it. It better work out, though. No, really, Ben, I appreciate it if you are listening to it.

Unless it's an elaborate hoax. Just as a goof, yeah, that'd be great. Just catfishing me? Yeah, absolutely. Is that catfishing? I think catfishing has been expanded to any kind of prank on the internet. Pretty much anything. Or literally catfishing.

I guess so, yeah. If you actually go out on a boat and you fish for catfish. No one's caught a catfish. No, that's not true. True! Huh. What do you think of that? I think you're a liar, but continue.

With the show. Yes. Mason. Yes. A couple of Avengers Age of Ultron users. I'm ready. First of all, the UK release for UK and Ireland has been moved forward one week ahead of the US, April

24th of next year, which is roughly a year from now. So, like most Marvel movies, the UK does get them ahead. And we only get some of them ahead depending on when the school holidays are. It's a random assortment, isn't it? Yeah, and normally we won't find out until a few months before when it's been moved, because it's kind of last minute. It really grinds

my gears. No, it doesn't. I have no idea. Because I think they're kind of like, oh yeah, really grinds my gears. No, it doesn't. I have no idea. Because I think they're kind of like, oh yeah, Australia, you can also have it whatever date is available. We're low priority, but that's okay because we're a nothing country, really. It really annoys me that these films for children are arranged and released according to the schedule

of school holidays for children. You know what I mean? Yes. I do know what you mean. I should be able to buy an ice cream cake from McDonald's and walk into a cinema whenever I want and watch Age of Ultron. Because I'm an adult. Good point.

Allegedly. Yeah, allegedly. But that's not the only news of Age of Ultron, basically. Kevin Feige says that Thanos has been cast. Now, he's going to be... Which makes sense, because he will appear in a... He's been cast as... I can think of to be... Which makes sense, because he will appear in a... He's been cast as... I can think of a funny character.

Never mind. Darkseid. No, good, good. No, it says that... You remember Damien Poitier? He played him in The Avengers. Very, very brief cameo. It was a mixture of, like, I think, prosthetics.

Do you mean in the mid-credit sequence in The Avengers? Yeah, The Avengers, yeah, yeah. And some CGI's and whatnot. But I'm assuming that if he's saying he's being cast, that means he's not the same guy. Right. I think it might be a big name actor. Yeah, okay. Or a big-ish name actor.

So yeah, but you know, remains to be seen. Sure does. You're excited to see him again, aren't you? Yes. Yeah, good, I knew it. Great work, Mason. Thank you. Now what's your favourite movie from the 80s?

It's not Star Wars or Indiana Jones or Back to the Future or Robocop or Terminator or James Cameron's Abyss. That's sci-fi. Yeah. Did you say Raiders? Yes. Highlander? Or Highlander. What?

I'll just tell you. Okay, what is my favourite? Flash Gordon Is coming back 20th Century Fox Are rebooting the series Now this didn't do very well In the 80s When they say series

They mean the one film They mean the one Until they stopped Don't do it for 30 years Yeah I think Flash Gordon's become Somewhat of a cult favourite

Even though it didn't do well At the time It's one of those movies Like many movies From the 80s Tried to cash in On the Star Wars Kind of brand

And like most of them, just completely tanked. Yeah, absolutely. But people have some fondness for it. Of course, he appeared in Ted, the movie Ted. That's right, he did, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So, you know. That was great, right?

Yeah, I thought so. It was great. Wasn't it? No, it was terrible. Anyway. You didn't like Ted? No. Really?

Yeah. I liked Ted. Anyway, there was like two good jokes in it. Anyway, most people have fondness for that film because of the Queen soundtrack yeah it's amazing nothing else of that stand out

Flash ah saviour of the universe saviour of the universe yeah that one yeah but and other stuff in there

sure I mean what else the hawk winged men in it I don't I haven't seen it well that's it

so that's all the good parts alright cool so you effectively have seen it now sure well isn so that's all the good parts alright cool so you effectively have seen it now sure well isn't isn't uh

like Star Wars like an updated kind of Flash Gordon-y kind of thing uh I guess so in a sense it's one of the influences I guess so

because it was you know Star Wars was intended for us to be sort of we entered during the midpoint of like a 1950s

sci-fi serial yeah kind of thing that's it yeah so um there was also a... I remember there being a Flash Gordon TV series.

There was a cartoon, wasn't there? Is that what you're talking about? Well, there's Defenders of the Earth. Oh, yeah. Best theme song ever. I'm going to put that in here. Great. Out of the sky, his rockets ignite.

Jets into battle, flying faster than light. Flash Gordon. Lord of the jungle jungle the hero who stops the beasts call him brother the ghost who walks and defenders of the earth defenders

Yeah, but there was a Flash Gordon series in like the mid-2000s Okay TV series It was on like Sci-Fi Channel so nobody watched it Oh, that's right

and it had the guy who was in Smallville the blonde guy from Smallville who dates Lana Lang Oh, okay, right. And it had the guy who was in Smallville. The blonde guy from Smallville who dates Lana Lang. Oh, okay, right. Yeah, yeah. Cool. I forgot about that.

Wow, so he's always been with us in a way. Except for like big gaps and decades. Decades of gaps, sure, yeah. Great. So we're on board. So what are we going to see?

Have they said anything? Nothing in particular. Just Fox are doing it. Right, because do you think it's going to be John Carter and Mars? It's a very good chance that that's going to be the case. Because just Parks are doing it. Right. Do you think it's going to be John Carter and Mars? It's a very good chance that that's going to be the case.

Because they can't make it... They can't deliberately make it over the top, silly, with a Queen soundtrack again. I mean, we've run out of Queen songs. That's true. Yeah, yeah.

I mean, they could do it with Tupac songs. We're never going to run out of those. But it's not going to work. Okay. Yeah. Against it. No, I'm not against it,

but it's just going to be like a straight-laced kind of movie serial period action film, and it's not going to work. Sure. Like The Phantom didn't work, or The Shadow didn't work. I'm thinking like Total Recall remake, just kind of like a bland nothing kind of... What about a Lost in Space remake? I enjoyed that when it came out. I know you did.

Yeah. I remember what did I really like when Matthew Perry had the armour. Was it Matthew Perry or the other guy? Matt LeBlanc. There we go. Yeah. They're both named Matt. I never realised.

There you go, yeah. You heard it here first. This is all about, yeah. Weekly Planet exclusive. Now, Robert Orkai, are you familiar with him? Was he one of the Lost guys? He was one, maybe. I don't know.

But he co-wrote and produced Star Trek Into Darkness. And he's also going to write Star Trek Into Darkness 3. Whatever that's going to be called. Remember, he was the guy who... Still more darkness. He was the guy who went onto the forums and got in arguments with fans over people not liking Star Trek Into Darkness. And he got real upset that people didn't like it and he goes like, how dare you?

He's like, and somebody compared it to like a Raiders of the Lost Ark rip off and he said, Star Trek Into Darkness has got more social commentary than Raiders ever did and I'm saying that with Harrison Ford being a friend. That was like a, and he's like, that's why I get to write movies and you don't. Like he got real, he got real petty. Yeah, yeah. I can imagine like they're both in hammocks, him and Harrison Ford, and they're just out in the deck on hammocks.

And Harrison's like, I don't care. Do whatever you want. Say every film I've been in is the worst film in the world. I don't care. I've got no interest. But you know what? If you write a movie and people don't like it, just... It's fine.

Not everyone's going to like everything. Yeah, don't say it. You're not going to win that, are you? We say that, but we've never written a movie. Maybe you get super defensive. I've written several movies that have been rejected by Hollywood. Huh. Give me an example of one.

Flash Gordon 2. Flash Thompson. Flash Gordon versus Flash Thompson. Great. That's the full title. Wow, I'd buy that. Sure. Yeah, yeah.

So there you go. But he wants to direct. Never directed a project before, but he wants to He wants to direct Never directed a project before But he wants to direct Star Trek Into Darkness Apparently J.J. Abrams company Bad Robot Is very much on board for this

But The studio apparently Is reluctant for him to do so So Yes What do you think? Give it a whirl Sure

Where's the huh? Well I think though With first time directors Is it a good idea To give them a big project Like this First off There has to be an example Transcendence That's been out time directors, is it a good idea to give them a big project like this, first off?

There has to be an example. Transcendence. That's been out in the... It's apparently very mixed. Mixed to poor. Okay, and that was Wally Pfister. That's right. First time directorial effort. So yeah, I mean, to be honest, I don't really care because I did not enjoy Into Darkness

as we've talked about. I don't care what happens to the franchise. So, you know. To be honest, I don't really care because I did not enjoy Into Darkness, as we've talked about. I don't care what happens to the franchise. But again, I think there must be some sort of Hollywood movie boot camp that you sort of have to go through. Yeah, we've talked about this. We have talked about this. Oh, actually, in addition to how somebody was very kind enough many weeks ago to start a Weekly Planet drinking game. Yes. Whenever I wonder if I've talked about something on the podcast before, you take a drink.

Just to add to the danger element there. Gotcha. But yeah, I mean, there must be some sort of boot camp where you go through and even if you haven't... Like Favreau only did a couple of indie pictures before he did... He did Zathura. He did Zathura and then he did Iron Man. So clearly you go into one of those films not knowing what half the people do. I imagine there are people around you who sort that out all out for you.

Yeah, that's right. I think it's... You've got your best boy. You've got your grip. Grip, best boy. Those are things, aren't they? Yeah, the best... Hang on.

There's the key grip. What's he do? He sets up lights. Ah. And like... What's a lighting guy do? He sets up additional lights. And the best boy helps the key grip.

Is there a boy? Like there's best boy and then there's just a boy. Yeah, it's just a regular boy. Yeah, he gets the paper and stuff the key grip. Is there a boy? Like there's best boy, and then there's just a boy. Yeah, it's just a regular boy, yeah. He gets the paper and stuff in the director. Gotcha, cool, cool. But I mean, if the guy has a decent vision for what it is, like, you know, they say everybody's got a decent novel in them or a decent movie or whatever.

They say that, yeah. Everybody's got one good story. You had Flash Thompson versus Flash Gordon. That's your one, so you're allowed to have that. So if his vision is good enough, I think there will be enough people in the team to help him realise that. I feel like there was a lot of good faith built up with the first Star Trek reboot,

and then they just kind of pissed all over it in the second one. I know we've talked about this before. But why just make Ratha Khan again? And you know what else I should have done at the end of that movie? Before we move on from this, but two brothers way too much. They shouldn't have made Benedict Cumberbatch Karn. They should have just made him one of his crew who was trying to revive Karn.

It doesn't have to be Karn. Right. He doesn't look like Karn. Yeah, it's weird that Spock recognised Karn. Yeah. He didn't look anything like Karn. How did that happen? Time.

It's probably time, yeah. So, yeah, I think that's the way they should have called it. Probably time and space. Oh, he didn't even think of that. Yeah, yeah. So there you go. Mason, I know you're a big fan of the Hobbit movies. What's your favourite one?

Haven't seen them. What's your favourite one, though? I guess the animated one from the 80s or whatever that was. Sure. It's got weird shadow puppets in it. Was that Lord of the Rings? I don't know. I think there was a Lord of the Rings.

Was there a Hobbit one? Doesn't matter. Yeah, it doesn't matter. I think there is one. Which is weird because I've read the Hobbit the book, but I've never read Lord of the Rings the books. I've seen Lord of the Rings the films, but never The Hobbit the films. So you've got all of them pictured in your mind. Correct.

Cool. Well, Mason, now that we know what your favourite Hobbit movie is, the third movie was originally going to be called There and Back Again, which is not a great subtitle for a movie. No, but that's very Hobbit-y. I mean, it's very Hobbit-y. Would you want something that's even more Hobbit-y? I'm ready.

The Hobbit has been renamed The Hobbit, The Battle of the Five Armies. How Hobbit-y is that? It's so Hobbit-y. It's very Hobbit-y. It's not very Hobbit-y, is it? The Hobbit Danger Squad. No. Just pick some random words and say them at the end.

It doesn't matter. Sure. Yeah, yeah. Look, I guess I would imagine that's a big plot point in that book that I haven't read. You've read it, right? Can't remember. I have, but it's a long time ago. Sure.

I mean, I think that'll probably get more people in. I mean, people who are fans of it are going to see it anyway. This is going to be the last Lord of the Rings universe movie that we'll possibly ever see. Probably not, though. No. They'll work something in. So, you know. Good?

Yeah, good. Thumbs down. Thumbs down from in. So you know. Good? Yeah good. Thumbs down. Thumbs down from me. Now Mason. Yes. You're familiar with the Star Wars expanded universe

aren't you? I'm aware of what it is. Oh did you see they released a whole bunch of Star Wars concept art?

Maybe this wasn't recent. Okay. But I just saw it on like Buzzfeed or something. For new Star Wars? No for old Star Wars.

They're amazing. Like the guy who, and I'm forgetting his name, Gary something. Yeah, Gary Shanley. Yeah, Gary Shanley. He created all the concept art. Gary Sanu, sorry. Yeah, for all the first. Gary Busey.

Gary Busey. For all the first Star Wars films. They're all amazing. Glenn Gary, Glenn Ross, sorry. Like it's not, they didn't, like it's not, you know, like marketing promotion. Gavin and Stacey, sorry. It's not a thing. But it Stacey. Sorry. It's not a thing. But it looks really great.

Great. Okay. Is this pre-anything? This is pre-production. Yeah. On all movies or just the first one? I think it's just the first one. It's probably old stuff, but...

Sure, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That sounds great. Well, I know a week or so back, they put in... It looks like there's going to be AT-ATs, you know, those big camel walking machines. Yeah, yeah, totally, yeah. Because they're going to go back to Tatooine and there's shots of foot, the feet of those things.

Oh, wow, that's on Tatooine, wow. Exactly. Wow. I call them AT-ATs, but they're not called that, are they? Do you think that they'll have a better chance when there's no snow? I don't think, I think they're kind of clumsy and stupid. Just in all situations, you're probably right, yeah. No think they're kind of clumsy and stupid. Just in all situations. Yeah.

No, they're great. What am I talking about? They're amazing. Yeah, yeah. And that snow scene, whatever, that whole thing is still amazing. There's so much good stuff in Star Wars. Not so much recently, but man. Ralph McQuarrie, that's his name.

Oh, that's his name. Yeah, yeah. They've been out for years. Yeah, yeah. It turns out. But I just saw them recently and they were really great. What a scoop, though. I mean, obviously they've been out for decades.

Exclusive. Exclusive. Anyway, you had some expanded universe news. Sure. Well, now Lucasfilm have officially come out and said, listen,

the expanded universe will not be working to the new movies. They're going to be they're going to keep printing the books but they're going to be under the Star Wars

Legends banner. So they're like a parallel kind of story. Oh, interesting. But the thing is, though, because... So that universe is going to continue in the book universe? Oh, possibly. They might just...

Probably just scrap it. Yeah, yeah. But basically because they want to tell a different story post-Return of the Jedi. But they're saying, though, not everything's going to be discarded and creators of Star Wars Entertainment have full access to all of it.

So, for example, there's a new series coming out called Star Wars Rebels, which is like an animated-y kind of thing. And there's stuff they're pulling from that and whatever. They also announced some new Star Wars books that are going to be canon in the new universe. I think a lot of the prequel stuff will remain the same, but anything post-Return of the Jedi can be robbed or just scrapped completely. So there you go. So that's, I mean, I'm not surprised, but that's their official stance on it now.

Uh-huh. Exclusive. Exclusive content. There you go. Yeah. Now, did you know, Mason? I'm ready. Oh, they also said, well, some guy was quoted as saying, I watched a video on it.

He said, there truly can be one consistent content, and that's always been the dream. Yoda. Yep. Of the dream. Okay, right. Does that always mean the dream? I mean, there already was one consistent content until these movies came out. Yeah, sure was.

So there was that dream. Now there's a slightly different dream. Great. Great. Marvel have announced, Mason, the comic run. We don't often talk about Comics on this show It's more movie based It is more movie based

But we do talk about Comics a lot as well Yeah Marvel have announced The death of Wolverine Mini series Where Wolverine will be Deathed

Stoned to death For a while And then he'll be back I mean Of all people who Marvel president says He will be dead for a while To boost sales

And then something Will come out A movie or something And then he will be dead for a while to boost sales and then something will come out, a movie or something, and then he'll be back. Well, I think that's the idea. They'll probably kill him and then there'll be a Wolverine solo movie. They've announced there's going to be a third one. Yep. So, I mean, of course he'll be back. Well, that's what they did with Captain America.

They killed him and then he came back just in time for the movie. Just in time for lunch. Yeah. So, yeah, it's going to be... Steak and a milk. It's going to be... Steak and a milk. It's got to be... There's a September miniseries. Uh-huh.

That's when it's coming out, sorry. And it's written by Paul Cornell and he's done a whole lot of Doctor Who books and stuff like that. And he's a pretty good comic writer. So I think the thing about these death of stories...

People complain when... I know when I spoiled the death of Captain America. That goddamn fly's in here! Sorry. Anyway, um, there's a fly in here, guys. And now that's stopped. No, it's still going. I've got to get rid of this. I can't handle this.

Keep it rolling, though. Talk amongst yourselves, guys. Okay. He's really awkwardly getting out of his chair. I don't want to kick any cords. He doesn't want to kick any cords. He doesn't want to kick any cords. He's found the fly. He's opened a door. This fly is moving as far away from the door as you can possibly get.

No, no, you're really messing this up, mate. I can spray a bunch of fly spray. No, don't do that. We're trapped in here. No. Duh. Did it go? Yeah.

Oh, okay. A fly whispered it out of here. Wow, you are amazing. What were we talking about? Captain America? Oh, that's right. Yeah, yeah. Oh, okay. I thought I whispered it out of here. Wow, you are amazing. What were we talking about? Captain America? Oh, that's right. Yeah, yeah. So, what was I saying?

Death of something? Uh-huh. Yeah, often the spoiler isn't in the title. The spoiler is more kind of how it happens in the thing. Right, exactly. And the impact of it. How do you kill Wolverine? Well, bullets to the brain won't work, evidently. No, it's...

Decapitate Just decapitate him Throw him into the sun He can't have adamantium like joints in between his bones No he can't Because otherwise he couldn't move He'd be a weird statue So he'd cut his head off

Yeah Can he grow back from his head? Have you reattached his head to his neck? Does he come back? I think he would come back from there yeah Because I know he's been torn in half by the Hulk And he went and crawled to his legs Did that series ever finish? I don't think it ever finished I don't know So he's still crawling to his neck? Does he come back? I think he would come back from there, yeah. Because I know he's been torn in half by the Hulk and he went and crawled to his legs.

Did that series ever finish? I don't think it ever finished. I don't know. So he's still crawling to his legs. Yeah, Ultimate Wolverine

is still crawling to his legs. He's been doing it for years now. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that, oh, maybe it finished eventually, but the gap was years

long. Yeah, yeah. Wow. What a good guy. Yeah. So I guess look forward to that. Yeah.

As much as you can. Yeah. Now, Mason, you wanted to talk about the trailer for Lucy. So I guess look forward to that. Yeah. As much as you can. Yeah. Now Mason, you wanted to talk about the trailer for Lucy. And I said the trailer has been out for weeks.

Yeah, but then I'm not known for my timely music. How good does it look? Yeah, it looks pretty good. It looks great, right? Yeah, yeah.

It looks like Limitless but not boring. You hated Limitless. Yeah, it was really boring. I stopped watching it. It just ran out of steam. Maybe your patience wasn't Limitless

correct for that film. I would agree with that. I thought it was alright. But your patience wasn't limitless for that film. I would agree with that. I thought it was alright. But you know what? It's got that light in it which I hated things. Humans only use 10% of their brain. Imagine if we could use 100% of the brain. We use most of it. That's why it's there. Yeah, exactly. It's just we don't use all of it at once or something. And also there's the issue

of if this stuff can give you superpowers, why hasn't everybody taken it? Yeah, really good point. So in the trailer, she gets a stomach full of drugs in a bag, and then somebody kicks her in the stomach and the bag bursts.

Yep. And then she gets superpowers. Were you going to say super-duperpowers? Super-duperpowers. Yeah. But it looks good. She can change her appearance and telekinesis and all sorts of...

It reminds me of Rob Schneider. So like limitless but not boring. It's like Rob Schneider's the animal, because he's got some animal powers, because their eyes make different animals.

Oh yeah. I don't know if they do anything with animals, but I'm looking forward to it. Yeah. I love it. She can like see cellular transmissions

and stuff like that. Can you see those? Yeah. Great. Yeah. You're pretty good. Grew up under power lines, that's how.

So yeah. Looks good, look this on. Yeah. Well, what's he done? Transporter. Fifth Element. Fifth Element. Trans's he done? Transporter Fifth Element Fifth Element

Transporter Yep Transporter 2 Leon the Professional Leon the Professional Just the Professional Just the Professional It's another one

These are all great movies Yeah exactly All I'm saying is How did that fly under the radar? It didn't Didn't it? No Alright

How did it fly under the radar for me? Because I'm oblivious to most stuff Probably That's how There might even be two trailers out by now No that's not true But yeah Looks great How did it fly under the radar for me? Because I'm oblivious to most stuff, probably. That's how. There might even be two trailers out by now. No, that's not true. But yeah, looks great.

There's another one out at the moment called In Her Skin or In Your Skin or something, where she's an alien in Scotland. Oh, yeah. Okay. She goes around in a van picking up dudes, but a lot of it's real footage. Like, she actually hits on dudes and stuff. Cool. Yeah.

That seems really dangerous. It really does, yeah. But I haven't seen it. Like, she actually hits on dudes and stuff. Cool. Yeah. That seems really dangerous. It really does, yeah. But I haven't seen it. No, but they've probably got... You know how the President of the United States, he has, like, those two SUVs that follow his limo all the time? Yeah, yeah. And one's got, like, a giant machine gun in it. Have you seen that?

No. It's insane. One's got a giant machine gun in it. Just for machine gun and stuff. Like, you know in Captain America 2, spoiler alert, Nick Fury's car's got that machine gun in it. Just for machine gun and stuff. Like, you know, in Captain America 2 spoiler alert, Nick Fury's car's got that machine gun in it. Yeah. This SUV has a much

bigger machine gun in it. Like, it's insane. Like, it's one of the ones you put on a plane. Like, an amount? It's an amount? Yeah, like an amount. It comes out of the roof.

Oh, my God. Yeah. It's not a trick. Like, it's an actual thing. Yeah, yeah. There's like the promotional video for the company that made it. Yeah, yeah.

They're like, check this out. And it's just like a giant machine gun. I need to see this. And what the other, like, there's like the promotional video for the company that made it. Yeah. They're like, check this out. And it's just like a giant machine gun. I need to see this. And what the other, like there's one that's got a giant machine and the other one has like, like CAA offices in it or something like that. Cool.

Like special forces guys. Do they have machine guns? Probably. Mini machine guns that pop out of hats that they wear? Oh, yeah, definitely. Like Inspector Gadget. Yeah, yeah. Secret squirrel.

I'm so sure. Inspector Gadget didn't do guns, did he? He had a laser. Oh, yeah, he did too. That'd do some damage. That always annoyed me as a Inspector Gadget didn't do guns, did he? He had a laser. Oh yeah, he did too. That'd do some damage. That always annoyed me as a child that he didn't do guns. I was like, how many guns could you fit in that guy? Heaps of guns.

Was he a robot or a man? It was a cyborg. But was he originally a man? Yeah. Because in some versions, isn't he just a robot? No, he's always been a man. In the movie, he was Matthew Broderick. Correct.

And then Frank Stewart. Oh, he was too. Yeah. Classic. Yeah, anyway. And Penny was his girlfriend and not his daughter. Not true. In the movie that's what happened. Really? Yeah, yeah. I have no memory of that. That's weird. Imagine how many guns he could fit in.

Gross. I didn't mean it to go that way but it did. That's podcasting sometimes. Alright, Mason, before I get on to the last bit of news... Oh, I have some news. Oh, Jesus. All right. Ray Fisher is going to be cyborg in...

I was going to bring that up, man. Just then? Yeah, well, I was going to link cleverly into the topic, but you've ruined everything. Well, I had that and I had another bit of news. Sure, what's your other news? Well, my other bit of news was that they unearthed the ET cartridges. They totally did, yeah. Although, I'm a little bit...

I'm a little bit sceptical. Yeah. Because they've only shown, like, some cartridges, like a little stack of cartridges. Yeah. And apparently it was, like, 14 dump trucks. So they say. Full of ET cartridges or whatever. And there's a bunch of other stuff in there, like Atari products and bits and pieces and whatever in there.

Yeah, there's like Raiders of the Lost Ark promotional little poster things. Was it in like a... Did they just dump it or was it in containers, like shipping containers or anything? I think it was in like, not in shipping containers, but like in like cardboard boxes that you would store video games in. Like how they would come to stores or whatever. Why didn't they just throw them in the tip probably because people would steal them

I guess yeah yeah yeah fair point well I know this might put a damper on it the upcoming angry video game

nerd movie which is all about oh he goes to the myth behind whether this thing really exists well that's kind of ruined that hasn't it

and it turns out that it does exist yeah but again it does look kind of like it does look kind of ruined that, hasn't it? And it turns out that it does exist. But again, it does look kind of like... It does look kind of like they just hired a digger. Yeah.

Or they just saw somebody was doing a dig near the desert. Yeah, yeah. And they just had a stack of Atari cartridges and were like, hey, can you pretend to... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Has the internet ruined me to such an extent? It's possible, yes. That I'm like,

oh, you know, this is probably a trick. It could work very well. But if this is a trick, would you care? If they're like, we've got you. If it is a trick to sell something,

that would annoy me. Okay, sure. But I mean, until I see... Is it the 30th anniversary of EC or something? Until I see literally thousands of cartridges... Yep. In a photo in the desert.

Yeah. Or a video even, I probably won't believe it do you want one? the cartridges? no did you ever play that game? no

there wasn't a lot of it might not have even come out here might not have come to Australia you're right unplayable I mean people say that game is unplayable and I'm sure it was

but a lot of games in that era were completely unplayable yeah exactly even Pitfall was amazing you ever played Pitfall? I played Pitfall yeah great game not now or it is I don't know unlikely unlikely I think it only Yeah. Even Pitfall was amazing. You ever played Pitfall? I played Pitfall, yeah. Great game. Yeah. Not now.

No, sir. Or it is. I don't know. Unlikely. Unlikely. Yeah, yeah. I think it only... As far back as you can probably go on consoles is probably Nintendo.

You know, Super Mario Brothers is still a great game. Yeah, Metroid. Metroid. Yeah. Duck Hunt. Duck Hunt. Great game. Oh, that's cool.

Yeah. Yeah. How much do you reckon they're worth probably very little unless they're unless they're from that dig site

okay yeah fair point yeah yeah well there you go anyway I just wanted to say a quick shout thank you to you Mason

thank you you're welcome now for the amazing Spider-Man commentary that we put up if you do want to listen to it now seems like a good week if you haven't already because the amazing Spider-Man commentary that we put up. If you do want to listen to it, now seems like a good week if you haven't already because the Amazing Spider-Man 2 is out this week.

As I've said, or as we've said, you do not feel obliged to pay any money for it. Download it for free if you can, if you can rip it or play it for free. I want to give a quick shout out to Edgar San, who gave us $10. Edward, who gave us $30. And Kevin Airlie,

whose name I pronounced wrong last week, so I apologize. Here you know how somebody last week, Eduardo donated, sorry, yeah, Eduardo donated $45 to Trump. Uh-huh. Like a champ, sure.

To Trump, Kevin's $40 donation. Well, Kevin Airlie, who also says to you specifically and to me to get back in our windowless box, Donation. Well, Kevin Airlie, who also says to you specifically and to me, to get back in our windowless box, has trumped Eduardo and given a $54 donation. And he says, and tell Eduardo to eat a bag of dicks in the most sincere way. Wow.

So, look, I don't want to turn this into a weird bidding war. I do. Oh, I don't want that so much, but I would like to create a series of rivalries. Sure. Like, not even, you don't have to donate a lot. I just want somebody to donate a dollar, and then another guy to donate a buck and a quarter. And then they have a bit of rivalry for the rest of their lives. Okay, cool.

Yeah, I'm all for that. What a legend, though. Yeah, absolutely. Donating all that money. That's two massive donations he's given us. Yeah, yeah. I mean, thank you, Eduardo, also. But, wow. The challenge has been set. The gauntlet's been thrown down. But, please. The mean, thank you Eduardo also, but wow. The challenge has been set.

The gauntlet's been thrown down. But please. The infinity gauntlet has been thrown down. I don't want, I don't want, I'm not trying to do this to encourage people

to make the biggest donation, but what a nice thing to do, I thought. And a great way to make an enemy for life. Yeah. I think maybe in, if you don't want to

donate any money, maybe some sort of elaborate stunt you could do. Sure. You could get in a box in Times Square and just see how long you can stay there, David Blaine style. You know? You could, I don't know, bury yourself in that Atari landfill?

You could bury yourself in the Atari landfill. There you go. Also, Brandon, who made a donation, he said to tell his buddy, Noya, that he's a dickhead. Nice. He sure is. Yeah. There you go.

But Mason, on to the Ray Fisher news. Okay, yeah. Which you spoiled. I didn't spoil it. It's been reported that Ray Fisher will play Victor Stone, a.k.a. Cyborgs. Cyborgs? Just Cyborgs.

Just Cyborgs. Just the one Cyborgs. Yeah, so, I Cyborgs. Just Cyborgs. Just the one Cyborgs. Yeah, so, I mean, it's not 100% confirmed, but apparently it's going to be a small cameo role, as I'm sure you're aware. He's a theatre actor, so he hasn't done a lot of mainstream-y kind of stuff, but that means he's probably got the chops.

Yeah, yeah. His first appearance will probably be a building collapsing on him, if Man of Steel is anything to go by. Which it is. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, but they say it's not a major role, but it will develop in future films. Probably a Justice League.

He might get a spin-off eventually. You never know. They're really pushing Cyborg in Justice League now. Yeah, aren't they? Yeah, yeah. Why is that? Probably a distinct lack of African-American characters in Justice League.

Yeah, yeah. Because for a lot of years, Martian Manhunter was the black guy, right? Yeah, that's right. And he transformed into a white guy. He told her he was a white guy, but he was the default was the black guy, right? Yeah, that's right. And he transformed into a white guy. He told her he was a white guy, but he was the default de facto black guy in Justice League. So I'm glad that they're finally...

Yeah, yeah. Do you like the character of Cyborg? I do. He's not had a good representation on film. Yeah, I do. I mean, the guy who did it in Smallville was good, but... You said he was all internal, is that right? Yeah, he's all like...

In Smallville, he was just... He looked just yeah he's all like the in smallville he was just like you he looked just like a regular guy but he had yeah when he was x when you know clark x-rayed him he had some cyborg parts on the inside yeah yeah that's not what i want no i want the exoskeleton i want the you want a real good made for tv exoskeleton absolutely yeah no i want maybe kryptonian technology or something like that i want the i want the morphing battle armor with the guns and the thing. Do you want the thing like in Justice League War where he grabs his dad's science experiment out of the electrical box?

No, that was dumb. But I want... Because he wouldn't come to his football game. You know he's portrayed in Injustice? He is portrayed, yeah. No, portrayed. He's betrayed. Okay, he's betrayed.

But also he looks great in that. And he's got all the morphing weapons and stuff like that. And he fights an evil version of him. That's what I want. Sure, absolutely. Pull out all the stops for this film, that's what I But also, he looks great in that. And he's got all the multiple weapons and stuff like that. And he's fighting an evil version of him. That's what I want. Sure, absolutely. Pull out all the stops for this film. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, sure.

Not Batman versus Superman. No. Yeah. Well, I think it's... Retain some stops. Sure. What I think is good about that character is that he brings something different to the team.

Because Batman's kind of... Football skills. Football skills. Know-how. Know-how. But he brings... He's got that technology... Sonic guns.

Sonic guns. Actually, Batman probably has a few of those. I'm sure he does. But, brings, he's got that technology. Sonic guns. Sonic guns. Actually, Batman probably has a few of those. I'm sure he does. But you know, Batman was kind of the techie guy, but this guy kind of like, I'll break it into the,

you're wearing it in my mind or whatever. Let's open this door or whatever. So he brings something that the others don't bring. So, you know, I'm all for it.

Me too. Also, it's been rumoured that Jason Momoa has been cast as Aquaman. Oh yeah, that works. So, a few weeks back, he told cast as Aquaman. Oh, yeah, that works. So, a few weeks back, he told IGN when they asked him, hey, are you going to be in anything DC upcoming?

And he said, it's just rumours. It's flattering. I want to say something amazing, but I can't comment on rumours. Which makes me think that, yeah, this could very well be true. So, yeah, Jason Momoa, Aquaman. That totally works. Do you think they'll blonde him up? I was just wondering if they'd blonde him up.

Yeah, they would. Yeah, they'd have to, right? Yeah, I think so. They'd have to blonde him up. Yeah, yeah. There you go. I'm surprised that Marvel aren't pushing, like, a Namor before Justice League get Aquaman out. Ah, yeah, that's actually a really good point.

Because it's really kind of like whoever will get that out will be, like, the... The king of fish. The king of fish. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The fisher king. Yeah, yeah, that's actually a really good point. Because it's really kind of like whoever will get that out will be like the... The king of fish. The king of fish. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The fisher king. Yeah, yeah. How do you sell Atlanteans in the Marvel Universe when they've never made any appearances? Like there's...

Because, I mean, he's been around since World War II. Yeah. But he's not... They've not shown him in any... They should have given him a cameo in Captain America. Yeah, they probably should have. The original one. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, sure. Is he ageless or something? Is that right? Is that how that works? No, he's very long-lived, though. Yeah, they probably should have. The original one. Yeah, yeah, sure. Is he ageless or something? Is that right? Is that how that works? No, he's very long-lived, though. And he's got wings on his face. Like a fish. Yeah, so he can fly like a fish.

Yeah. Cool. All right. Well, that's two things that we're for. Will you rise with the sun to help change mental health care forever? Join the Sunrise Challenge to raise funds for CAMH, the Centre for Addiction and Mental Health, to support life-saving progress in mental health care. From May 27th to 31st, people across Canada will rise together and show those living with mental illness and addiction that they're not alone. Help CAMH build a future where no one

is left behind. So, who will you rise for? Register today at sunrisechallenge.ca. That's sunrisechallenge.ca. Now, Arthur J. Bing, he's a guy who wrote in this week, he wrote this very lovely email, a number of ideas and suggestions and thoughts and stuff like that. But he mentioned that The Rock should be Aquaman, which I think would have worked as well. The Rock would be Nat and all.

Yeah. No, no, he's saying for the DC. Well, I'm saying he can do both. Who's to say he can't do both? I'm saying it. Okay, fine. But he'd like to know our thoughts on casting and comic book stories, et cetera,

that we'd love to see in the Justice League movie. So I thought maybe in upcoming weeks, at Arthur J. Bing's request, and, you know, whatevs, that maybe we should do something like that. Is this some sort of subtle cross-promotion for Bing? Yes, it is. This is the Amazing Spider-Man of podcasts.

Excellent. Good. Unnecessary Bing promotion. Now, this is probably not a spoiler, but I'm going to ask you anyway. Okay. Does he finally move to Google in Amazing Spider-Man 2? He does. Absolutely, he does.

Good. Yeah, yeah. Thank you. I think I mentioned that in the commentary, did I? I don't know. Wasn't listening. Doesn't matter. Yep. Irrelevant. Thank you. I think I mentioned that in the commentary, did I? I don't know. Wasn't listening. Doesn't matter. Yep.

Irrelevant. So I think we should do that. But this week, Mason, as I mentioned briefly last week, I thought we could go through some cancelled comic book movie projects. Okay. There are a lot of these. So I decided not to do all this episode. Uh-huh.

I've picked four major ones. Yep. And we'll maybe do a few other episodes on this. Because I'd rather talk about them for way too long than rush through them. You know what I mean? So are you for this? Yeah, I'm absolutely for this.

Is there any in particular that you wish you'd seen before we start? No. You're happy they're all cancelled? Yes. No, I'm actually not super familiar with any of these. Okay, cool. Well, you're in for a treat. I'm absolutely ready for it. I'm going to super familiar with any of these. Okay, cool. Well, you're in for a treat. I'm absolutely ready for it.

I'm going to listen along with other listeners. You know? All right. I'm the point of view character in this podcast. I'm just a regular Joe. And all this crazy stuff's happening around me. You know? Absolutely.

This first one. These aren't in any chronological order either. I kind of jump around. I'm here on there, Mason. Yeah, absolutely. I first one. These aren't in any chronological order either. I kind of jump around. I'm here on there, Mason. Yeah, absolutely. I'm everywhere. This first one's for Justice League Mortal, which was George Miller, who directed Mad Max and a bunch of other stuff. I think he directed Babe 2.

Pick in the City. But he produced the first one or something like that. Very famous Australian director. And in 2007, there were a number of people cast. You may be familiar with this. DJ Cotrona was cast as Superman. He ended up appearing in G.I. Joe Retaliation as someone in G.I. Joe Retaliation. Great.

Armie Hammer was Batman, famously. That's right, yeah. That was before we knew who Armie Hammer was. That's exactly right. All we knew was that his name sounded like Arm and Hammer, which is a brand of baking soda. And I remember the time he was like 24 or 25 and me going, what? That's too young for a Batman.

Because all this, this was an established Justice League team. That was the idea as well. They've been doing this for a while. Megan Gale, Australian supermodel, was cast as Wonder Woman. Nice. That's it. Okay, good. Common was Green Lantern.

Oh, yeah. So I'm presuming they were going with the Jon Stewart Green Lantern. Uh-huh. Sure. That makes sense. No, it's Guy Gardner. Sure. Looking at him red hair.

And Adam Brody was cast as The Flash, among others. Adam Brody from the OC. Yes. Okay, that works. This is a great cast. Is it? Yeah. What about the Superman?

I have no... What's his name again? DJ Controna. Controna. Well, the first result says DJ Controna shirtless. So I'm going to say... That's a good sign. Yeah, he looks superman-y.

Absolutely. Yeah, but I mean, if you've seen G.I. Joe Retaliation, which you may or may not, even if you have, you probably wouldn't remember. He's not a good actor? No, he's fine, but he's not really... Well, Superman isn't really a main player in this as well. The main character in this is actually The Flash. Or he's sort of...

I'll explain. Okay, good. Okay, so basically this story was influenced by the Tower of Babel. Or Babel? How do you say it influenced by the Tower of Babel. Or Babel? How do you say it? I say Tower of Babel. Good. Now, Batman creates something called Brother Eye, which is a program that watches over

all metahumans and can wipe anyone out at any point. I'm familiar with what it is. Sorry. It's the OMAC project. Exactly. One man army corps, but that's not what it is anymore. Well, interestingly enough, I'll come back to that. Now, the main villain in this was Lord Maxwell,

who was not an incredibly famous DC villain. Maxwell Lord, sorry. Is it? Yeah, it's Maxwell Lord. Are you sure? Yes, he was the head of the Justice League Europe. You've made a mistake here, haven't you? I have, haven't I?

You're right, yeah. Guess who plays him? You're not going to get it, I'll just tell you. Gilbert Gottfried. Jay Baruchel. Yeah, okay. That's weird. Yeah, sure.

Doesn't strike me. No, okay. Yeah, Seth Rogen's good friend. Yeah, okay. That's weird. Yeah, sure. Doesn't strike me. No, okay. Seth Rogen's good friend. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, yeah. He was a corporate kind of type in Robocop. Yeah, okay. He was a marketing guy or whatever.

Yeah, he was just in marketing, yeah. Yeah, yeah. He would have been very young then, wouldn't he? But yeah, he uses Brother Eye against the League. And he also, on his side, he's got Talia Al Ghul. Yep. Sprayed by Teresa Palmer, who you may know from something. And the OMAX are in it as well, and at one point

apparently Maxwell Lord changes into one of the OMAX, which is like, you know, they're like cyborg-y type men, who are up against whatever, and whatever. Very famous DC villains, I guess? Well, they were for a long time, they were in Infant Crisis, yeah. Oh, sure.

Maxwell Lord is a character who... He's a character that took a weirdly... He took an inexplicably evil turn for no reason. Okay. He was the financial backer for Justice League Europe and Justice League International, which were kind of the comic relief Justice Leagues. And then...

And he had, like... During the Invasion storyline in the 80s, he got, like, some telekinetic powers. Right, yep. And then he became a cyborg. Good, good. And then he wasn't a cyborg anymore, and then he became evil for no reason. So initially, how long was he a good guy for?

Years and years, like decades. Four years, huh? At least that. Yeah, but then, but he's, well, I guess that works in the, because a lot of comic book movies have a guy going insane for no reason. Yeah, well, that's true. Yeah, so that totally works. It's required. But yeah, it was a very inexplicable character change. Sure. Yeah, yeah, well, apparently that works into it as well. Like, he was one of the founding members or whatever, or one of the backers. Yeah, yeah. You would have thought they would

have gone with Lex Luthor, but I guess that's an interesting way to do it. There is a script online for this, by the way. If anybody wants to read it, go do that. Just PayPal us some money and we'll send it to you. Now, Warner Brothers at one point, this is kind of the height of mo-cap technology. Warner Brothers considered making it mo-cap, you know, like Beowulf. The whole thing?

The whole thing. Wow. That would have been... I want to see that. That would have been good. Did you see Beowulf? No. Tough watch. Because it looked terrible. Yes. But I'd like to see that. That would have been good. Did you see Beowulf? No. Tough watch.

Because it looked terrible. Yes. But I'd like to see this. But now that I've... Talking about Armie Hammer, now that I've seen him in things, he would have been a great Batman. I agree.

But now from that, I don't think, and maybe probably because of Lone Ranger or whatever. Oh, yeah. They're not going to put him, they're not going to make him Batman. But he absolutely plays as Batman, I think. He's got the look, you know? Yeah.

He was in that movie about Facebook. Yep. He was Herbert Facebook. He was Herbert Facebook, founder of Facebook, yeah. Now, what was I going to say? Barry Allen, he basically joins an established Justice League cast. Okay. I'm going to spoil this part a little.

So he's the everyman. He's the everyman, exactly. So he's kind of like our window in, which you kind of need for a movie like this. You need that person to ask the questions, to be like, what's this? Who are you? What's happening?

It's because you've also got like Martian Manhunter. And you really, that's someone you really need to explain. Right. You know, to some extent, to somebody who doesn't know. Well, you won't believe this, but he was teleported from Mars by a scientist who died straight away.

And then his teleporting machine didn't work anymore. So he decided to become a private detective. He turns into that white private detective over there. He's our black friend. Wave to him. Yeah. So, yeah, this is the time as well. There was going to be two Batmans at once.

Because Christian Bale refused to be a part of it, and Nolan wanted Batman for his own universe. Right, okay. Which at that point was only Batman Begins. only batman begins so at that point as well it you could have worked in kind of supernatural kind of science fictiony kind of elements into that batman universe because it was early days it was only kind of like the dark knight where it was established there is no unworldly elements to this universe if there is just a cop it's as gritty as it can get it's as gritty

as you would want it to be or whatevs so yeah we've had two Batmans at once which would have been weird I know that was a thing that people found weird

at the time people were like that's all they want Batman I'll kill you you know all that kind of stuff people have thoughts

and feelings about these things yeah well because I remember being against it I'm like oh Christian Bale's pretty good but then

it would have been a better Batman voice. I don't know what Armie Hammer's Batman voice is like, but it'd be better. Sure. They also couldn't get Brad and Ralph to reprise his Superman role, meaning that if they did, this whole thing would have been in the Richard Donner Superman universe,

which is your favourite Superman universe. No, it's not. It's the dullest universe, certainly. Duller than Smallville?est universe certainly duller than Smallville yes much duller than Smallville duller than Dean Cain's Superman duller than that yeah

duller than Superboy probably on par gotcha so that's where we're at yeah yeah okay good now also there was bits I thought there was bits like this

that were interesting when the OMACs approached the city the Justice League prioritised protecting civilians which was kind of something missing from man of steel there are elements to this story which are quite good quickly the civilians need some cover knock over all the skyscrapers i don't care there are people in the skyscrapers you're not bloody hearing me. Now, Wonder Woman is also

the only hero that Lord, Maxwell Lord isn't able to defeat. So, he also pits a mind-controlled Superman against her

and she kicks the shit out of Superman. Yeah, yeah. And Lord Max, Maxwell Lord is quoted as saying, I've got Lord Maxwell written here every time.

Yeah, that's odd. How did you, yeah, okay. I don't know. Not even Superman could take you out. Amazing. And that would have been

a great way to see Wonder Woman, I think. Yeah, yeah, totally. I mean, I don't know anything Not even Superman could take you out. Amazing. And that would have been a great way to see Wonder Woman, I think. Yeah, yeah, totally. I mean, I don't know anything about Megan Giles' acting ability. She's a very famous Australian celebrity, isn't she? Yes. But I don't know if anybody else in the world knows who she is. She looks like Wonder Woman, though. Absolutely.

Yeah, yeah. I wasn't going to say. And also, the movie opens with the Justice League minus Batman carrying a coffin of a dead Justice League member. And they're all in uniform. Oh, twist. What's the twist? Because Batman's not there.

I said I was going to spoil this. Yeah, you did. Yeah, it would be assumed at the start that it was Batman. But it's actually, it's a different Flash who's carrying the coffin and it's Batman watching from a distance. So Barry Allen actually dies in this movie sacrificing himself. Crisis on Infinite Earths. Exactly.

But forward. But forward, yes. And he's also turned into one of those OMAX or Almanac whatever they're. He gets turned into

a sports almanac. Yes. Yeah. Of course Mason this did not this did not happen this movie. I know you're devastated.

I remember watching it. It's weird. There was a writer's strike at the time. I don't know if you know. Yeah, yeah it how did it's weird there was a writer's strike at the time i don't know if you know yeah yeah yeah um that's why i ruined a lot of stuff the bond second bond movie terrible um iron man 2 was that yeah yeah yeah heroes oh yeah a bunch of stuff but also there was something to do with there was an australian tax break at the time which the film could have got it was going to film in australia and then that thing kind of it didn't work out a certain way.

I can't remember whether the Australian government took it away or whatever. It's weird. The Australian government seems to be actively against getting people to film here. Like, New Zealand have all sorts of tax breaks and benefits to filming in New Zealand, but it's not the case here. It used to be, because we had, like, the Matrix films filmed here. Yeah, yeah. I think all of them.

Was it all of them? I don't know. Yeah, it was all of them, yeah. Okay, cool. Also, like, Superman Returns was filmed here. Mission Impossible 2, which I think was of them was it all of them I don't know yeah it was all of them at least okay cool also like Superman Returns was filmed here Mission Impossible 2 which I think was also set here

yeah some of it yeah yeah a lot of masks in that movie yeah but so many yeah I don't know the Australian government

seems like a pack of dickheads yeah exactly but I think they also have to put in some you have to put significant Australian content yeah

in order to get the really good tax breaks I think yeah exactly so we'd have to put Captain Boomerang in obviously the thing is as well

Star Wars is also filmed here two of the Star Wars prequels the second two I find when I watch something filmed in Australia it's very distracting because I can pick because of all the actors

who clearly have Australian accents fake American accents yeah I either know who they are or I can pick their accent immediately so but hey that's just my personal that's my problem isn't it it really is yeah Australian accent. Yeah. Fake American accent. Yeah. Either know who they are or I can pick their accent immediately. So, but hey, that's just my personal, that's my problem, isn't it?

It really is. Yeah. You got a lot of problem. Now, Mason, I got some bonus trivia to add. I've got here bonus trivia exclamation mark. I was going to shout it, but I probably don't got to. Okay. At the end, Batman is the one who snaps Maxwell Lord's neck.

Ah, because in the comic books it was Wonder Woman. Oh, was it? Okay, yeah, yeah. And it's sort of shown on television. Cool. And so people are upset. But, so do you think they didn't want to make the Wonder Woman character that kind of bloodthirsty that she would do that? Probably, yeah, yeah.

I mean, it's obviously more fitting with her than it would be Batman. Yeah, exactly, yeah. Do you think that's why that carries over to Man of Steel? Yeah, maybe. I've not thought about that, yeah. Do you think that's why that carries over to Man of Steel? Yeah, maybe. I've not thought about that, yeah. It's just on the whiteboard in the Warner Brothers offices. Somebody's next getting snapped. I don't care who.

This is happening. I'm the president of Warner Brothers. John Brothers. John Brothers. And I want somebody's next snapped on it in a children's film. That's what I want. What is it? I reckon this is definitely carried over.

Yeah, it sounds like it. Because it's a very definitive kind of moment and it defines a character or whatever. So, like, we really want to use this at some point. So, I guess we'll just give it the Superman. Yeah, yeah. I'd rather Superman do it than Batman in hindsight. Yeah, yeah. That would be pretty awesome to see Batman just snap a guy's neck.

Yeah, I guess that's the... He's never done anything like that, though, really, has he? No guy's neck. Yeah, I guess that's the... He's never done anything like that, though, really, has he? No, because that's the... I guess that's the most... Like, a lot of people die in these films, so that's kind of the most brutal, close-in way to do it, I guess. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Besides the punch through the head, which we haven't seen yet, which I guess they're saving for Man of Steel 2, right? Oh, I hope so. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Would you like to see Jay Baruchel's neck snapped? I'd like to see a punch through his head. He seems like a nice guy

but just, he'd be on board with that. Absolutely he would. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That'd be hilarious. He loves it. There was all sorts of, the cast were kitted out

with uniforms and this and all sorts of stuff. There's like, some photos came in recently with the whole cast standing together and a photo taken. And that's not Photoshop,

that's the real thing. That's the real thing, baby. You know it. One more piece of bonus trivia for you, Mason. Yep. Stephenven tobelowski was going to be alfred oh i'm on board with that me too yep not british i don't care yeah he's great he's probably got he's probably got some accents in him definitely yeah you know he has so yeah so is that something that you want to see or would have wanted to say i I want to see every single element of that. I want to see it live. I would like to see those costumes. I want to

see the weird mo-capped version. If they can release that on Blu-ray and it's a double disc or whatever, it's live action and weird mo-capped version. I would see both of those. Fantastic. Well, that dream is never going to become a reality, Mason. This is very much dead in the water. We are getting a Justice League movie, but I'd imagine if the script is leaked for this, none of this is going to carry over. So, yeah.

No more neck snapping for you. Indeed. Anything else you want to add to that? No, I'm sad that didn't happen. It sounds great. I want to see Armie Hammer as Batman. Yeah. You don't want to see Ben Affleck as Batman? didn't happen yeah sounds great I want to see Armie Hammer as Batman yeah yeah you don't want to see

Ben Affleck as Batman oh yeah that's happening isn't it yes yeah it's fine well for now we'll see yeah it'll be fine these things have a habit of

yeah yeah cancelling but I think for this one for real we're going to get there was also another Batman vs Superman movie Mason yes

that I'm not going to talk about today okay just so you know yeah Magneto solo film it was called X-Men Origins Magneto. Because they were going to do a whole series of these.

They sure were. Before Wolverine sunk it. Before Wolverine really... Did that do... Did that do... Make money? In its opening weekend, it made $87 million. That's a lot.

Well, yeah. Initially, something would. And then the second weekend, $0. $0. Yeah. So, I'm not surprised that they didn't make this movie because the

Magneto movie very much hinged on the success of Wolverine right right right who else do you make though you do Magneto you do

Wolverine who else do you do uh Cyclops is too boring yes nothing happened to Rogue before X-Men 1

no so boring uh Storm yeah Storm would work yeah yeah because she's got an interesting origin in the thing happen to Rogue before X-Men 1? No. So boring. Storm? Yeah, Storm would work. Yeah, yeah, because she's got an interesting origin in the... Wherever she's from. Mystique?

Well, Mystique we kind of got with First Class, right? Yeah. That's kind of... They are talking about a Mystique spin-off movie, though. Yeah, I think we talked about that last week. Oh, we did, we did. That's it, yeah. Spy movie.

I'm all for that. Yeah. 60s spy movie. I think what makes Magneto... Magneto is a fascinating character. Uh-huh. And they've got two... And the good thing is they've got two great actors

who can portray him now from different time periods. Yep. The idea for this one, though, Sheldon Turner was hired by 20th Century Fox to draft a spin-off X-Men film in 2004. It was pitched as The Pianist Meets X-Men. Great. So, you know.

The Adrian Brody film. The Adrian Brody film. Yeah, yeah. I was thinking the piano with What's-Her-Face Rogue in it. Sure. Yeah. What's-Her-Face Rogue. That's her name.

Now, the original X-Men film. Anna Paquin. There we go. Yeah, that's her name. You know, the original X-Men film began with a prologue and it showed Magneto as a child in the concentration camp. That was the period that this film would start. So that was the time and place where that would begin.

We did see that, of course, that whole sex scene. Yeah, a lot of this stuff has been folded into first class. Exactly. The original storyline would also heavily involve Professor X. It's saying that the character of Professor X was a soldier in the Allied forces that liberated concentration camps across Europe. The X-Men timeline is all over the shop, isn't it, really? How old is he supposed to be? That's a really good question.

Because in 99, the first X-Men is set in the near future. The near future, yeah. Which I assumed would be like 2000. I assumed it would be like a... 2005, maybe? Yeah, something like that, maybe. Yeah, yeah. I mean, they had that wicked hologram-y table or something in it.

Yeah, they did. They had the hologram table. Yeah, something like that. Yeah, yeah. I don't know. Yeah, yeah. Also, the Professor meets Magneto after the war, and they bond over the realisation that they're alike in their special powers,

and their differences soon turn them into enemies. Again, that's something that we saw in... First Class, yeah. First Class, exactly. Now, although there was a script on hand, producer Lauren Shuler Donner said in April 2009 that whether or not the film gets made or not is still uncertain and that would partly depend on how well Wolverine Origins did in theatres

and the overall reaction to it. That movie, I think, made more than First Class. But I think what happened there, they went, people weren't wrapped in X-Men 3. I don't think it's okay. It's not great. People hated Wolverine Origins. And then when First Class rolled around people were like, eh. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Even though I think First Class is probably the best X-Men movie. It's one of the best, yeah. So there you go. X-Men Origins, one inch spike guy. The guy that can just pop out all those one inch spikes in X-Men 3. I'd watch that. Yeah. So threatening. all those one-inch spikes in X-Men 3. I'd watch that. Yeah, so threatening. Gambit?

Would you watch an X-Men Origins Gambit? Yeah, you know what? I would. But why does it have to be in Origins? Why not just make them solo movies? Yeah, yeah. Because so many of these would work as solo movies. I mean, I'd watch a movie where Cyclops goes and does a thing.

Yeah, yeah, totally. Because I think... What's his name who plays him? James Marsden, or whatever his name is. I think he's a good actor. I know people don't love the character of Cyclops, but you can make anything interesting. Yeah, exactly.

He doesn't have a lot of depth in the movies because they haven't written him with a lot of depth in the movies. Yeah. Gene! Yeah, exactly. We need, look, Captain America 2 proved that people love... People being hit with shields. Yeah, but like geometry-based combat, you know?

Or shield flinging or whatever. And you know who's great at geometry-based combat? Cyclops. Yes. He'll do all kinds of trick shots. We don't see that in the movies. You're right. Yeah.

You're absolutely right. In the cartoon... Trick shots. Am I right in assuming that he can just fire those laser beams without touching the thing on the side of his head? He just seems to pull his arms down by his side and flex. Well, some versions are Cyclops. Yeah, Cyclops.

Some versions, and by some versions I mean not the dumb versions, have like a thumb trigger. Oh, okay, right. Why wouldn't he? Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. Because if his hands are incapacitated or whatever. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Then he goes.

Yeah, yeah. There you go. David S. Goyer, who directed Blade Trinity, your favourite Blade movie. Uh, yeah, exactly. There you go. David S. Goyer, who directed Blade Trinity, your favourite Blade movie. Uh-huh, sure. Right? He was hired to direct in 2007 also.

Obviously none of this happened. The story was also moved forward in 1961 and involves Xavier and Magneto battling a villain together, which is again, we saw in First Class. And in August 2010, it was announced that the film

would almost certainly not be made as much as the story was incorporated into First Class. And in August 2010, it was announced that the film would almost, certainly not be made as much as the story was incorporated into First Class. But Bryan Singer and Sheldon Turner were given story credit for their work on the film. Which makes sense, because Bryan Singer, of course, did something to do with X-Men, and Sheldon wrote the thing that I said. Sure. So, you know.

So what, they've just got that, they've just got it on their mantelpiece. Yes. It's a bit of wood that says, story've just got it on their mantelpiece. Yes. It's a bit of wood that says, story credit for X-Men Origins Magneto. Well done. Well done, guys. Participation award.

Yeah, thank you, yeah. Now, bonus trivia. I'm ready. Macallan, Ian Macallan said that in 2006 that he planned to reprise the role using digital, digitized? Digitized? Digitized.

Sure, all those. Facelift. You know, that whole de-aging thing they did in X-Men 3? That worked really well. Yeah. And it's also, there's even a worse version of it in Wolverine Origins with Professor X at the end. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So there you go.

It was also then said that the role was going to be recast and that Ian McKellen would bookend the movie with cameos. And he'd be like, I remember a time when I was blah, blah, blah. Like Young Indiana Jones. was like young Indiana Jones just like young Indiana Jones have you seen that episode of young Indiana Jones with Harrison Ford it's been a long time

but yes it's so good for those who haven't seen it some villains bust in at the end and they steal some artifact from Indiana Jones who's sitting there

playing a tiny saxophone and then this is real you can look this up this is real that'll be on YouTube absolutely if any element of young Indiana Jones has real. That'll be on YouTube. Absolutely. If any element of young Indiana Jones has survived, it'll be that on YouTube.

He's got a beard because he filmed at the same time as a fugitive. Right, right, right. And then his Native American buddy is like, oh, Indiana Jones, they're getting away with whatever artifact we have. And Indiana Jones is like, don't worry. I've got a feeling everything will work out. And as the guys go to leave, he plays a particular note on the saxophone and it causes the snow from the roof to fall and collapse on them as they leave.

And he's like, justice be done or something. Wow. I don't remember that. Indiana Jones' classic catchphrase. Yeah, justice be done. Justice be done. And then he walks out and he grabs it and the music plays. That is a classic move of Indiana Jones.

Remember that time that giant b Boulder was following him down the hallway and he played his saxophone and he got out of that mess? I remember that, yeah, yeah. Remember that time him and his dad were tied together on that chair and it kept spinning around in the secret Nazi war room or whatever and they weren't going to get him and then he played the saxophone and he got out of that situation? I remember that, absolutely.

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, yeah. Look, we could talk all day about the situations that Indiana Jones got out of by using his saxophone skill.

Remember the time when he had to pick the right grail but he just played the saxophone and his dad came back to life or whatever.

I remember that. It was great. All classic memories. Yeah. So good. I've also got one more. Rob Liefeld,

everybody's favourite comic book artist. Absolutely. Who everybody hates. He said a Magneto solo film is currently in development at Fox. I've also got one more. Rob Liefeld, everybody's favourite comic book artist. Absolutely, yeah. Who everybody hates. He said, a Magneto solo film is currently in development at Fox. I'm controlling the concept drawing of the feet, he said. And then it never happened.

So yeah, that's still happening. Not necessarily an Origins movie, but yeah. I'd love to see something that happened happened before first class there's a very good scene in first class where he goes and hunts down some nazis just magneto going across europe just killing nazis how good would that be quentin tarantino's magneto nazi killer yes that would be amazing there you go so yeah want to see it or not see it mason bearing in mind we did kind of see it we did kind of see it uh no i want to see i don't want to see it or not see it, Mason? Bearing in mind we did kind of see it. We did kind of see it. No, I don't want to see him. Not the version you put there, but the trekking across Europe killing Nazis.

I would definitely see that. All right. I also want to see that. I just love that guy who plays him, though. Well, both of them, really. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, good stuff. Good stuff for you.

How about a mo-cap version where they try to combine the faces of Ian McKellen and Michael Fassbender just together and it'll look real creepy. Where have I heard that thing happen before where they were talking about merging someone's face? Yeah, there were rumours when Star Wars was beginning, the Phantom Menace, this is just a rumour, that they were going to get Alec Guinness' face

and superimpose it onto... Ewan McGregor. Or whoever the actor was going to be. David Prowse, probably. Sure. Oh, I get another role in Star Wars. Okay, I guess I'll do it if I get to play

Obi-Wan Kenobi oh Prowse is at it again I'm back Prowse is back David Prowse comes up a lot on this podcast he does doesn't he

yeah we should send him an email we should get him as a guest absolutely nah nah forget it let's get him as a guest and then

put somebody else's voice over the top. Yes. That'd be hilarious. Now, remember the start when I said I had four movies we were going to talk about today? Uh-huh. I've actually got three, so... What happened to that last one? Have you decided it's not worth it?

I just didn't do it. I thought I did four. That's all right. All we do is we go back. When you do the edit, just get David Prowse's voice saying three and put it over you saying four. You'll finally get the recognition that he deserves. Are you familiar with Superman Flyby?

No. J.J. Abrams, when he was writing... King of the Lens Flares. King of the Lens Flares. When he was writing a number of TV projects, including Alias, he was drafted by Warner Brothers to write a draft. What, against his will? Yes, against his will. Yes, against his will.

Oh man, he gets the letter. To pen a version of Superman. Should I pretend I have asthma? Maybe. If I don't have polio, I'll get out of this. Won't have to write a dumb Superman film.

Now, originally, of course, McG was famously going to direct. McG! That's right. He, of course, dropped out to do Charlie's Angels Full Throttle. I haven't seen either of those movies. They'd made a lot of money, but they're not good, right? People don't remember them fondly.

No, I don't. I think I've seen the first one, and I don't remember it fondly at all. Crispin Glover's in it, though. Yeah, that's weird, right? Yeah, it's real weird. Yeah. He's also in Beowulf.

He's like a mo-cap monster. Yeah, of course he's also in Beowulf. He's like a mo-cap monster. Yeah, of course he's a mo-cap monster. He's the original mo-cap monster. Now, I know that you're thinking... He provides that sports almanac we were talking about earlier. That's right. Now, I know you're thinking, is there a director who could live up to the Mick G name

who they could get on board? Uh-huh. You got any ideas? Is it X-Men 3 guy yes it is is it really Brett Ratner there we go

they got Brett Ratner on board and then he dropped out for whatever reasons and Mick G came back on there was a dieting contest I don't know what happened okay

but basically the information I'm going to give here bear in mind it's from multiple scripts so it's hard to find any kind of concrete information on this without reading the actual script,

because I'm not going to do that, am I? Yeah, absolutely. Superman Flyby. Yeah. Okay. I thought originally when I read it, it was Superman Flyboy. Okay, yeah. Maybe it is, though.

No, it's not. Is this a Lord Maxwell situation? It may very well be. Okay. So, yeah. Now, he turned in a script in 2002, and it was an origin story that included Krypton being besieged in civil war between Jor-El and his corrupt brother, Kata-Zor.

Yeah. I guess they're brothers? Can't be. Different last syllable. No, that's weird, right? Now, before Kata-Zor sentences Jor-El to prison, Kal-El is launched into space to Earth to fulfill a prophecy. I don't like all the Superman prophecy shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I like the idea that he's not sent here for a reason. They simply send him here as a safe haven. Yeah, yeah. To be looked, to grow up as a normal kid or whatever. Hey, these guys look like Kryptonians. Let's send him here. Yeah, exactly. They went like, you'll be the best guy ever and you'll lead them to victory and you're

the son of a god and whatever. I don't like, you'll be the best guy ever and you'll lead them to victory and you're the son of a god and whatever. I don't like all that. Because I like the fact that Superman, if you take him away from Earth and you put him back on Krypton, he's just a guy. Yeah, yeah. There's nothing special about him. He's not... And that's the mistake they made in Man of Steel, I feel, where they're like, he was the only Kryptonian who was natural born for however many generations and whatever. And he's got the codex in him him which means he's special and he's basically

Space Jesus. Oh, sure. But he doesn't need to be any of that. You know what I mean? We've got a Space Jesus. Yeah, yeah. He's called Space Jesus.

I'm going to start a band called Basically Space Jesus. Yes. There's going to be lots of 90s covers, I think. Are you going to cover Hey Jealousy? I'm definitely going to

cover Hey Jealousy, yeah. All right. Now, Jor-El also specifically picked the Kents to send him to, because they're like, who are the best guys? I don't like that. The Kents. No, I don't like it. Yeah.

So basically, Clark reveals himself to the world as Superman, bringing Carter Zor's son, Ty Zor, and three other Kryptonians to Earth. This is a Brett Ratner script. He wrote this one. No, no, J.J. Abrams. Oh, okay. I'm sure there was input back and forth or whatever, but yeah. Superman is actually defeated by these Kryptonians

because they know Kryptonian kung fu. Okay, sure, yeah. I think the reason they did it like this is because I know that when people saw the Matrix 3 studio executives, they were like, now we can do proper flying fighting. Right, right. Because there's that flying fighting scene in the Matrix 3, which doesn't look that great, let can do proper flying fighting. Right, right. Because there's that flying fighting scene in The Matrix 3, which doesn't look that great, let's be honest.

Not at all, no. And so I think a lot of that, like, well, if we're going to do flying fighting, we've got to do Kung Fu. So let's say they can do Kryptonian Kung Fu or whatever. So basically, Superman is defeated and killed. Huh. Right? Yep.

But luckily though, well, I guess luckily Yeah Jor-El Who's still alive on Krypton by the way Krypton has not exploded Yes Bear that in mind Okay sure No no Not at all

It does not explode Huh When he hears That his son has died He commits ritualistic suicide While in prison Ooh Right?

That's unpleasant And then both of them Meet up in Kryptonian heaven. I think that happened in the Death of Superman storyline. Did it? Yeah. They met in heaven. I don't remember.

I remember. No, I definitely remember that. Okay. Because I think Pa Kent had a heart attack. Right. And he went... I'm going to look it up, but continue. Wait, you're talking Pa Kent or you're talking Jor-El?

Pa Kent did. No, no, this is Jor-El. Yeah, Jor-El. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, right, right, right. There must be some sort of like a random plot, like a random movie plot generator where all the, like somebody over the decades has been cataloguing all the comic book plots. Yeah, yeah.

And elements. And they just, now they just push a button and just random sort of things combine together. They're like, well, we're doing the next snap. Yeah, yeah, exactly. That's priority number one. Yeah. The next nap. Okay, this is just from the Wikipedia page,

which I haven't looked at yet because it's probably very long, but it just says, dot, dot, dot, a heart attack after the death of Superman storyline, comma, and he meets Clark in the dot, dot, dot. So I assume that's heaven. The afterlife, whatever. So Park Kent meets him in heaven. Has a heart attack, yeah.

Okay, but not Jorah. Okay, gotcha. But they still do that. Park Kent commits ritual suicide at the Kent farm just because. Just as a goof, you know? Now, Superman is then resurrected because he's the Chosen One. So, um... Harry Potter syndrome.

I was going to say Transformers 2. Yes! Yeah. Charlie Booth was the Chosen One, wasn't he? Because he was the best Transformer. Uh-huh. Is that what happened there? Yes! Yeah. Charlie Brook was the chosen one, wasn't he? Because he was the best Transformer? Uh-huh. Is that what happened there?

Probably, yeah. Where he returns to Earth and, oh, by the way, what's Kryptonian Heaven like? What's going on there? A lot of ropes? No, there was just a

lot of clouds. It was very generic. Sure. I'm not sure where it was, I'll be honest with you. Just standard Heaven stuff.

Yeah, just standard Heaven stuff, exactly. Okay, sure. He returns to Earth and he defeats the four Kryptonians with the end of the script. Did he learn Kryptonian country?

Yeah, he knew it then. He came back and he knew it for whatever reason. Wow, this sounds really good. So then the movie ends with a cliffhanger where Superman goes off to Krypton to find it. Huh. Yeah. Sounds terrible. I'm not finished.

Well, I am finished. But I've got a whole lot of casting stuff that I could write here's some superman casting see i do kind this does sound terrible yeah in this world where we can just pluck any film out of the ether and have it made and in front of us yeah like i do want to see that yeah but if we were making this podcast we had to suffer through weeks and weeks of news about this thing being made and all these terrible choices and all these script reveals that are clearly awful, I would hate it. And I would go into the film hating it. But if you're just like, hey, well, let's go into the parallel universe and watch that

movie because it's just been made. I'd be like, this is great. Yeah, you're right. This is great how bad this is. Do you think all this publicity and build up and stuff is ruining movies for everybody? Yeah. No. No.

Way to stick to your guns there. Thank you. Superman casting. Josh Hartnett offered $100 million for a three-picture deal. Wow. Yeah. Turned it down. Huh.

Didn't want to be typecast. Because that's a 10-year commitment, isn't it? For $100 million, though. Yeah, you're right. What an idiot. Well, they didn't make it anyway, so it doesn't really matter. Man, he should have got some sort of pay or play contract there. Didn't Nick Cage do that?

Yeah, somebody did. I'm sure Nick Cage got paid regardless. Yeah, so he'd be like, look, $100 million or, look, I'll just take $50 if it doesn't get made. And they'd be like, yeah, this is going to happen. We've got him. We've bloody got Hartnett, haven't we? We've got Hartnett, yeah. Jude Law was also considered. We got Slevin from Lucky Number Slevin. Jude've got him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We've bloody got Hartnett, haven't we? We've got Hartnett, yeah. Jude Law was also considered.

We've got Slevin from Lucky Number Slevin. Jude Law, considered. He was actually also, Bryan Singer wanted him for Zod in Superman Returns. I could see that, yeah.

Yeah, me too. He's definitely more Zod than he is... He'd have to stand on a box, probably. He's tall, isn't he? Fall cup stand on a box. Yeah.

No, because he doesn't look... Does he seem threatening to you? Well, original Zod's kind of thin, though, isn't he? Yeah. The guy who plays him. well original Zod's kind of thin though isn't he the guy who plays him what's his name Morgan Freeman I don't know Chris Reeve was to consult and he wanted Tom Welling for the role

yeah okay I know Tom Welling is screen tested for a few the Superman roles well I've heard anyway I don't think they'd ever cast him he's probably getting too old no he's probably not that old anyway but I think that people don't want to ever cast him. He's probably getting too old. No, he's probably not that old anyway. But I think that people don't want to draw the comparison. They want to

start fresh. Even though he lives on in the comics in our hearts and he also lives on in real life. Tom Welling is alive. He's still alive, isn't he? He's probably doing great. He's probably a super nice guy, yeah. Paul Walker was also offered the role. Yeah, okay. Yep. Sure. Do you think people have come around more to Paul Walker now that he's dead?

I hate to bring it up, but do you think it's one of those scenarios where... No, I think everybody's always been involved with Paul Walker. I always liked Paul Walker. Yeah, yeah. I can't think of any Paul Walker's causing a ruckus or whatever. Paul Walker's bloody got drunk and smashed up a hotel. He's never done any of that. You're right.

Yeah. Super nice guy. Sucks he's dead. Brendan Fraser auditioned, as did Matt Bomer. Matt Bomer's that guy. I've talked about him before. He looks exactly like Superman. I think he was even cast as Superman in a later McG version of this.

Or McG. Yes, McG. It's all right. We can get him as a YouTube short film. Yes, that's right. Superman at some point. Yeah, yeah. Punish a dirty laundry star.

I think he voiced animated superman in one of the movies the ones where he faces brainiac okay i might be wrong but he he is great they also auditioned uh henry cavill it would have been very young at the time but that footage exists and there's pictures of him in the outfit well online he looks much younger he's definitely better for it now ashton kutcher screen tested no but decided not to take it i'm sure that's what happened i'm sure he was the one that turned it down but he says basically because it conflicted with that 70s show look if you're doing that 70s show that's a great show for whatever for the time but you would leave that to play superman tofa grace left that 70s show

to play venom huh but also he was scared of being Superman cursed. Right, exactly. Well, you would be. Would you? You know what? Who believes in curses, order? See, I feel that... No, actually, what I'm saying is with Ashton Kutcher, he's...

I think we unfairly malign him for something. I don't know what it is. But, like, if you cut his hair, he'd look pretty good as Superman, right? But I don't think he's got the chops, quite frankly. You're probably right. Yeah. But he's always... Maybe he's just never got a chance to not be goofy in things.

Jobs. In your face. Is he good in jobs? Apparently not. I haven't seen it. Never mind then. Bloody oath. He looks like him.

He bloody nails it, though. Great. I think I enjoyed the butterfly effect, maybe. Yeah, okay, yeah. Sure. All right. Victor Webster. You familiar with him?

He's from Mutant X your favourite show of all time oh yeah I guess he also auditioned David Borenaz yeah from Angel Angel yep

he had to not do it for various reasons he conflicted with other stuff or whatever and Jerry O'Connell also expressed interest

huh Jerry O'Connell what do you think fat kid from Stand By Me yes great he has done other things but that essentially

no he's great in sliders I was just thinking about sliders the other day I'm like what fun sliders was it sure was fun show for a while that was like the the lost

of the no there's nothing like it that's unfettered sliders yeah you're right I used to love that show I remember when they went

to the dinosaur world and there were some sweet CGI dinosaurs mid 90s CGI dinosaurs yeah the best kind and then Jerry O'Connell left and his brother took over. Yeah, yeah.

And then they said that he and his brother were like a combined entity in the last season. They're like, look, the main guy who did the entire crux of the series is gone, but he's still here. He's just in somebody else's body or something. Great. What an all-star audition lineup for that. For a film that never got made.

There's more, Mason. That's just for Superman. Yeah. Christopher Walken. Why is it called Superman Flyby? Because he's just flying by. Oh, yeah. Because remember, you'd be hanging out some Washington.

You'd fly by. Oh, you'd fly by. And someone would say, Superman fly-by'd. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Is that how that works? Yeah, that's exactly how. Yeah. Christopher Walken.

There'd be a kid like reading a Superman comic book and Superman would fly by and give him a wink and the kid would be like, oh my God. You know? It's always one of those. Christopher Walken, Perry White. Yes. The correct answer is amazing, not yes.

Sorry, I apologize. Yeah. Anthony Hopkins as Jor-El. I remember I saw an interview on Rove Live, which was an Australian talk show. He's like our Leno, I guess. Sure, yeah. I think he does some stuff in the States where Anthony Hopkins was on. And Anthony Hopkins was like, yeah, I'm playing fucking the guy.

Yeah, that's how he talks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Rafe Fiennes, Johnny Depp, and RDJ were considered for Lex Luthor. All right, yeah. All those all right? Rafe Fiennes, Johnny Depp, and RDJ were considered for Lex Luthor. All right, yeah. All those all right? Rafe Fiennes at work. We know he's a good bad guy and stuff.

He's a great bad guy. He's got the no-nos. He cut his nose off for Harry Potter. That's how committed he is. He would have pulled out all his hair by the roots for Lex Luthor. Scarlett Johansson, Selma Blair as Lois Lane, they say. Okay. And Joel Edgerton who didn't

who's an Australian actor of course love him love him see Warrior it's a good movie he didn't audition for Superman though

he had the opportunity but he did audition for Ty Zor which was oh the made up villain the made up cousin of the whatever the thing that you just said

yeah yeah great now it was opted they wanted to shoot this in new york uh-huh and canada but warner brothers they wanted sydney australia because that was when that tax break whole thing was happening mcg felt though it was appropriate to try and capture the heart of america it was sorry he said it was inappropriate to try and capture the heart of america on another continent i mean i guess that kind of shows in Superman Returns

because that doesn't look like anywhere, does it? Like, I know it's supposed to be like a 1930s kind of metropolis-y kind of world, but it all feels like sets. It doesn't feel like a city. That's true, you're right. But that's deliberate. I mean, if you want a set that looks like New York,

you just make some sets that look like New York. There's probably plenty just lying around. Probably. That was a deliberate stylistic choice to make. I don't doubt that. Like a weird 1930s nowhere universe that they're all trapped in. Like Limbo. Yeah.

Like they're trapped in some sort of oblivion. There was a plan to, I'm sure they must have talked about merging that in the Bale Batman universe at one point. Yeah, yeah. And that wouldn't have worked at all. No, because there are some sort of references to Gotham City. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sure it's in a paper or City. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Shorts in a paper or something. Yeah, yeah, totally. Now, McG later admitted that part of it was, that he didn't end up doing it, was his fear of flying. What? Because he'd have to fly to Australia and whatever to do it. Oh, he could have taken a boat. It'd be nice, going on a cruise ship.

Sure. Come on, McG. Yeah, I know, come on. How does he get around in America? He runs. That's why he's so super fit. That's a really good point, yeah. Now, Abrams lobbied for the chance to direct his script, but Warner Brothers said no, basically, and they ended up going with Bryan Singer in July 2004, which ended up being Superman

Returns. Yeah. So, yeah, I think JJ Abrams probably would have done, he would have done a good job, I think. An okay job. He would have done a job. He sure would have, yeah. He wouldn't have abandoned it halfway through.

Yeah. That's it. But I think that was the point where JJ Abrams wasn't proven as a director. Right, exactly. So now they're giving him all sorts of gigs. Yeah, yeah. They're giving him Star Trek. They're giving him Star Wars.

They're giving him the one about the monster on the train. Train monster. Yeah. All those. All the good ones. So yeah. Ratner dropped out of the project though in March 2003. I'm kind of jumping around for this. Blaming casting difficulties and violent disagreements with John Peters. You are familiar with John Peters? Yeah. He is the craziest. Hairdressing zone. Yeah. John Peters. The craziest producer in Hollywood. Allegedly. Wow. No, he is. Okay, great. Fuck it. He is. Yeah, yeah. Hairdressing's own. Yeah. John Peters. The craziest producer in Hollywood. Allegedly. Well, no, he is. Okay, great. Fuck it, he is.

Yeah, yeah. Basically, he's been trying to produce all the Superman films, all the modern ones. He seems like an absolute lunatic. Right. Maybe I'm wrong. Kevin Smith would beg to differ. That could be the fourth one. Yeah.

Guys, everybody just look up Kevin Smith's Superman on YouTube absolutely Kevin Smith has most people have probably seen it already but Kevin Smith had a crazy experience attempting to pitch

a Superman Lives script yeah also a lot of that elements though I think of that script flow over into Man of Steel you know the polar bear

Giant Spider Giant Spider Superman fights a giant spider sort of in it. There's also a polar bear in it. Okay. You know how John Peters was insistent that there'd be a polar bear in it? He fights polar bears, yeah.

He fights polar bears for whatever reason. So, yeah, I shouldn't pay out John Peters, but I feel like that guy has very little concept of anything. Right. And should not be put in charge of anything. Especially considering, I think, he started being Barbra Streisand's hairdresser. Yeah, yeah.

Which, you know, I mean, people start from anywhere. Yeah. Why am I paying out this guy? I don't know. I don't know. It's weird. Great guy. Change my tune.

Let's make it. Yeah. He makes it. I mean, every story I hear about him is amazing, so I'm glad he exists. Exactly. I'm not kidding. Bonus trivia. Ready?

Yeah. Early versions had Lex Luthor as Kryptonian. Oh, yes. Isn't that part of the Kevin Smith? No, I think it's been floated in a few versions. But basically, Lex Luthor is investigating this alien ship, right? And he's been looking at this ship for like nine or ten years, and he's helping the government out.

And it turns out at the end that it's his ship. And he's like, I'm from Krypton also. And then he starts flying about. Yeah, and he's like i'm from grip donald so and then he starts flying about yeah and he also knows kung fu yeah yeah exactly kung fu yeah that's a very that is a very iron man 3 mandarin twist where if you love those characters you would be up in arms about what they've done with what they've done there just as a just as yeah exactly yeah so so you're very casual fan or whatever. You're a very casual movie guy. I'd be like, oh, he's...

Okay, that's interesting. Because they're villains. That makes sense. That makes sense, yeah. They're enemies. People who actually like the films who are going opening weekend will be like, oh, no. The worst.

The final battle also ends with Superman circumnavigating the globe. Yep. You know I love some of that. And then snapping a guy's neck. Know what he does? There's a giant mech that he fights that someone's inside. Good. And he circumnavigates the globe before it can turn around.

He flies right through it. Nice. Because I'm assuming it doesn't have a shield on the back. That's probably it, yeah. Does he need to circumnavigate the globe? Can't he just fly over the top? Yep. Maybe straight up and down.

Wouldn't that be quicker? Probably. I mean, I'm not a physician, but that's quicker. Right. He could even dig under the earth for a couple of feet and come up the back. Yep. Real easy. Freeze breath him.

I need to hold him for not even a second. Yeah, yeah. Laser vision. What else can he do? He can throw that cellophane S. Throw the cellophane S. Trap it. Wrap that dude right up.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. There you go. Yeah. Fire at a tow cable. Go around the guy's legs. Trip him over. Why aren't we riding? Shields are weak on the top or something.

Yeah, sure. There's also a scene in one of the versions where Martha Kent is nearly raped by their landlord. Don't need that, do you? No. No. I would say that the Superman mythos is almost entirely rape-free, and let's keep it that way. You're not saying it's to its detriment? No.

Good. That was a test. Okay, good. McG also approached Shia LaBeouf for Jimmy Olsen. That works. Absolutely it does. Even now it works. I know Shia LaBeouf's like, I'm a leading man now.

I'm a serious actor. You're not a leading man. I guess you're kind of serious in the sense that nobody takes you seriously. Yeah. But you are Jimmy Olsen. Yeah. You know what, though?

I kind of like the idea, and it was in All-Star Superman, the idea that Jimmy Olsen is kind of like a cool guy. He's one of the Olsen twins. Yeah, he's one of the Olsen twins, obviously. But, like, he's kind of a cool guy. Yeah, yeah.

Like, he's kind of... Because he's Superman's friend. Yeah. And he's just this guy who just rolls with everything kind of thing. I kind of like that characterization of him. Absolutely. I kind of like... Would like to see...

Because the idea that he's a guy who... You know, he's wearing his sweater vest and his bow ties. And he's a little Superman. Yeah. Right. That kind of doesn't really fly anymore. No. But the idea that like...

Like he's a cool... He's wearing bow ties because that's super fashionable right now. Because he loves Matt Smith's Doctor Who. Yeah, because he loves Matt Smith's Doctor Who. Yeah, because he loves Matt Smith's Doctor Who. Yeah, yeah. He's this guy who's just, you know. Yeah, well, you're right. Shia LaBeouf could probably pull that off, I'd imagine.

Yeah, yeah. Sure. But Shia LaBeouf kind of played Jimmy Olsen in Constantine. Oh, yeah, he did. Do you remember that? Yeah, taxi driving Jimmy Olsen. Sure. So there you go.

Yeah. I definitely want it. See, that seems terrible, but also much more interesting. I know, right? I want to see that. There's also seems terrible but also much more interesting I know right I want to see that there's also some amazing concept art for this like costumes

and all sorts of things so go online definitely check them out not now Mason we're in the middle of a podcast but I'm just sorry I just had pictures

of Megan Gale up from earlier man she's having a kid sorry Megan Gale she's having a kid exciting times

do you want to look them up now I don't mind I'll wait what are we doing I'll do it later it's fine. What are we doing? No, no, I'll do it later. It's fine. Sure. Mason.

Yes? We're going to come back to this. Okay. Potential comic book movies. Because I love talking about this kind of stuff. Me too. I love potential realities, potential futures. I love potential.

I love potential in the human race. Why don't you go bloody make a sliders machine then? You love it so much. Go make yourself a timer and go through parallel dimensions. I wish. Yeah. Yeah. Why didn't they just stay at a really good world in that show?

Because they had to get home, you know? Why? I don't know. Why don't they just go to a pretty good world and go, yes, we'll do. I think at one point they did find their own world. Yeah. And they were like, it was like, oh, no, it's my world because the gate on my door squeaks or something. I remember that. No, no, he said, if this is

my world, the gate squeaks. Because I know the sound of this gate. But he tests it, and it doesn't squeak. And then they leave. He's been away for months and months. And they leave, and then somebody comes out of the house and goes, thank God we finally fixed that gate. We're so glad Jerry O'Connell's

dead. I'm so glad he's dead, we finally get the chance to do all these household chores that we couldn't do while his living body was in the way all the time. That's dead. Yeah. I'm so glad he's dead. We finally get the chance to do all these household chores that we couldn't do while his living body was in the way all the time. That's it. Now, Mason, you know what it's time for now? What we read and what we're going to read? You know it.

Theme song! What we read and what we're going to read. That's not it. I'll put the real one in. Yeah, yeah, please. I'm doing the theme. What are we reading today? Yeah, yeah, please. I'm doing the thing. What are we reading today?

I'll tell you what I'm going to be reading. Sure. Orphan Black is back. Okay. It's a TV series. I don't know nothing about this one. It's really amazing. Tell me. Well, I can't...

If you haven't seen it... I have. No, okay. Well, if you... It's quite difficult to... There's been a whole season out Yeah, yeah And I kind of don't want to spoil too much of it

If you haven't seen it Because it kind of flew under the radar Yeah But essentially it's about human cloning Oh And the main actress, Tatiana Maslany Yeah Plays multiple different roles

And she's great in all of them Okay And it's not a case of like Oh, look at her playing this character and then this character Remember in United States of Tara? Yeah, yeah When it was all like Oh, she's great in all of them. Okay. And it's not a case of like, oh, look at her playing this character and then this character. Remember in United States of Tara? Yeah, yeah. When it was all like,

oh, she's playing this character. It really feels like multiple distinct actresses playing multiple different roles. Right, okay. It's really good. And it's more, like it's got sci-fi elements

but it's kind of like a family drama as well. Yeah, yeah. Like a family action drama kind of thing. Sure. Super good. Okay, how many episodes

first season? I need something new to watch. I think there's ten and the first episode of the new season is out now. Okay. By the time this comes out

it might even be the second. Fantastic. Yeah, yeah. Well, Mason, I'm going to recommend a little known show called Game of Thrones. What is that?

It's like, it's basically... Is it like a documentary about the royal family? No, no, it's like, it's like Cluedo but it's set in the past. So you're like, who did it?

Right. Who didn't do it? I'm not really recommending that. But I am recommending the game Cluedo. Because every now and then I do like to recommend a board game. Are you recommending that? Yes. Do you remember when I recommended Rap Rat?

Yes, I do remember that, yes. No, what I'm really recommending is... I thought I'd do something in line with what we're doing today. There's a show called Orphan Black. And basically... Wait a second. No, what I'm really recommending is, I thought I'd do something in line with what we're doing today. There's a show called Orphan Black. Wait a second. No, no. I thought I'm going to pick a Superman story, a kind of wacky Superman story. That's kind of got some untraditional Superman elements that I think people might enjoy.

Bearing in mind this is... Is this a script of Superman Flyby? Yes, it is. There's a ritual suicide in it. No, no. There's a Superman comic that came out in 2010. It's called Superman Earth 1. You may be familiar with it. They There's a ritual suicide in it. There's a Superman comic that came out in 2010. It's called Superman Earth 1. You may be familiar with it.

They also did a Batman 1. Now, upon reading this a few months ago, a lot of elements from Man of Steel are taken from this, where an alien fleet comes to Earth, and they call Superman out, that kind of thing. And that's what causes him... Hey, idiot. Get your fucking ass out here.

That's what they say. Why are your underpants on the outside, mate? What's going on there? And that's what causes him to come out and whatever. But it's very much he's kind of like that kind of, who am I kind of Superman, which I don't love. But there is... And yet somehow you're still recommending this.

No, I'm recommending in the sense that if you want to kind of off-kill the Superman story of what we've been talking about, then maybe this is something to give a read. It's not brilliant, but it's interesting and there are some interesting elements. It's called Superman Earth 1. It's from 2010. There's two volumes. The second one is about Parasite.

The first one is about a different thing. Oh. Yeah. So, get into it or, you know. I will. You won't. No, probably won't. Sounds good, though. Well, it made a lot of money in sales. Huh. For will. You won't. No, I probably won't. Sounds good, though.

Well, I've made a lot of money in sales. Huh. From you. Yes. Because you couldn't quite figure out how to download it at first. You just kept buying it over and over again. I got it in the end, though. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. There you go. That's what are we going to do, Reid, for this week, Mason. All right. Listen to questions this week, Mason. Okay, I'm ready. It's a new segment. Oh, it's an old segment. It's not even a segment. I'm. Listen to questions this week, Mason. Okay, I'm ready. It's a new segment. Oh, it's an old segment.

It's not even a segment. I'm just going to talk. Is that cool? Yeah, it's very bold of us to suggest that we have segments in any way. We just continue talking until we've run out of things to say. That's it. And then we talk some more and then it ends. And then we're out of breath. Yep.

And then we lie on the floor for four hours after this because we're so tired. Yep. Is that right? Now, this is from Ryan E. He just wanted to hear our opinion. Now, he wrote this a few weeks back. Ryan E. Gosling? Yes, Ryan E. Gosling. He wrote this a few weeks back

and I apologise. I put it in my phone and I'm like, gotta remember to bring this up and then I forgot. But now I remembered. So, he's the real hero. Success. Yeah, he wanted to hear our opinion about minor continuity error in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. I'm ready. You ready for this? In Iron Man 2008. Let's no-prize this.

You won't be able to no-prize this. Oh, no. Not a chance. Agent Phil Coulson mentions in Iron Man 2008, he mentions to Pepper that he's from the National Security Branch named the Strategic Homeland Intervention Enforcement and Logistics Division. And they're looking for a shorter version. They're looking for a shortened version,

which they then, of course, change to S.H.I.E.L.D. Obviously it's S.H.I.E.L.D. Yes. However, in later films, including Captain America and Iron Man 2, it's mentioned that S.H.I.E.L.D. has been around since the time of World War II. Yeah. So that was established. That was the name. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So why is he saying, we're called this, we're looking for a shorter name when it's clearly existed for decades? That's a good point. What about? What if they've only gone public in the 2000s? Maybe it's like a secret organization. And they're like, well, we've just formed this and we're just trying to start it. Maybe we'll give it a funny name kind of thing. Like maybe they're like, you know, like the NSA or whatever.

And people didn't know they existed until, you know, like the NSA or whatever and people didn't know they existed until, you know, quite recently. Really? Maybe. Actually, I think people knew

the NSA existed, but I'm just saying. Maybe, I'm going to say maybe it was a secret organization. There's probably dialogue in the later films

that disputes this. Yeah, yeah. But I'm going to say maybe it was a secret organization until recently and they've just become public and this is like a PR thing. I say that this is just an error. It probably just an error you're right absolutely you're right

that's a really interesting point that ryan e brings up though it is a really good point thank you ryan yeah you win the respect of your peers yeah absolutely unless they don't like comic books and then they'll think you're a nerd i've never heard this in which case they won't know what you're talking about yeah now this is a segment mason no it's not a segment same segment i'm gonna call this andy versus cory school friends or bitter rivals okay now basically i'm gonna give you their opinion on this but i'm gonna ask you first okay cool andy says that hayden christiansen as anakin skywalker in the star wars prequels was a more threatening villain than that of Loki in the Avengers. He says he likes Loki, he's fine.

But he thinks as far as villains go, Anakin Skywalker. Not saying he's a better actor. Right. That's clearly not the case. But that Anakin Skywalker is a more threatening presence. Prequel Anakin Skywalker. I'm not talking Darth Vader. I'm talking prequels.

Corey, on the other hand, disagrees. Now, what are your thoughts? I think that Hayden Christensen's portrayal of Anakin Skywalker is more, like he's more of a wild card. Yep. Like, he'll kill some children. Yes. He'll kill them for no reason, obviously.

No, because he was going to save the baby from... Oh, yeah yeah good point Because they were Going to discover The secret I feel that even though Loki is the god of Tricks and lies

And he's mad Yeah He's more sane And put together Than Anakin Skywalker I completely agree And that is obvious To anyone who meets

Anakin Skywalker For even a second That he's mad So why would you Trust him with Jedi powers And blah bitty blah Yeah

Why wouldn't you Take him out the back Yeah yeah And hit him with a brick? Exactly. Yeah, as a child. So, I'm inclined to agree with Andy. Uh-huh.

I love Loki as a villain. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think he's great, but yeah, he's definitely got it together. Anakin, like you said, you don't know what he's going to do at any point. Yeah, yeah. Even when he's like an established Jedi or whatever, or he's trained to be a Jedi and he's like, the Force is the best and whatever. He's still like, Obi-Wan's against me.

And then he goes and slaughters a bunch of sand people and kids and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a complete fucking mental case. And also, I think it would take Loki quite a long time to say, destroy all of Earth. Yeah. But I think Anakin could, you know, if he gets a fleet together, he could just destroy lots of star systems. Like even without a Death Star,

I think he'd have a pretty good go at just annihilating a lot of life and a lot of star systems. I think it would take Loki a long time to do that. So we've sided with Andy.

Well, it's going to take him forever just to annihilate New York. Yeah, yeah. Because New Yorkers, they stick together. Yeah, yeah, sure. They do. We know it. Also, he says that Anakin Yorkers, they stick together. Yeah, yeah, sure. They do. We know it.

Also, he says that Anakin's motivations are much more interesting than that of Loki's. And he's actually done some pure evil things. I don't know if his motivations are more interesting. Also, I would point out that I think the way that the first Avengers was written, Loki, the first Avengers was written. Yeah. Loki, like, and I think they've probably changed it since.

But I think, and I think Loki's motivation in the first Avengers was to get captured. Yeah. And so he could retrieve the Infinity Gauntlet from Asgard, etc., etc. Yeah.

So, presumably, he could be more dangerous. Like, if he wanted, I think potentially if he wanted to just destroy a life on Earth, he could have done that. So you think that was

some kind of elaborate misdirection? I think it was an elaborate misdirection. I think you might be right, Mason. Wow. So, to be continued? Yeah. So, Andy versus Corey, school friends or bitter rivals? Uh-huh.

Pending. Pending. But at the moment, Anakin is a lunatic. Yeah, absolutely. But I think a lot of him being a lunatic boils down to poor writing. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah.

Did you ever feel sorry for Anakin Skywalker at any point? No, because he's a big baby. At all points, he's a big baby. Like, he's mental age's toddler all the time, right? Yes. Yeah. There was moments in it where you could see what they try to make it like. Oh, they're best friends.

But they're not best friends. Why would Obi-Wan like him? He would hate him. Yeah, yeah. Jesus. No, it's no good. He's got a problem with that guy.

Yeah. They're all written like toddlers. They are. That's the problem. They all exist in this toddler universe where all their

motivations are completely one-dimensional. It's the Muppet babies of Star Wars movies. Like, if only Anakin was like that, lots of people would

have set him aside and said, hey man, are you okay? You're not... Should we get you on some medication or something? Because you're not... You're not right up there, man. Is something the matter?

Hey, if your wife is having problems with your children, we'll figure that out using science. You don't have to kill a whole bunch of other children. Do you see how weighing that up? That would be incorrect? Don't you think that was well? Like, even the little things like, the Jedi should have gone back for his mother.

Yeah, absolutely. They could have done that. That shouldn't have happened. That's on them. Yeah. That his mother was murdered by sand people. Yeah. Let's not talk about it ever again.

Did you know they're doing Star Wars Expanded Universe is becoming something else? Yeah, you mentioned that earlier. My memory is very short, but I do remember you mentioning that earlier in the podcast. Good, good. Still fresh.

Mason, just before we go, my brother, as I mentioned last week, he's getting married and we said, people write in for somebody to take on a superhero role. Uh-huh, yeah. These are some suggestions we got.

And it was for the Brains Over Brawn. It was Brains Over Brawn, but I think just... But also just open it up for whatever's, Over Brawn. It was Brains Over Brawn, but I think just whatever. I thought Oracle might be good. Yeah.

She's got the nice logo of the kind of the sort of the electronic face, robot face kind of thing. Yes. Yeah.

Like an electronic watch. Yeah, like an electronic watch. Exactly. Okay, I want to hear some suggestions. Sure. We got a few Nightwings. Yeah.

I like Nightwing, as I mentioned before. Got quite a few Daredevils actually as well. Okay, I want to hear some suggestions. Sure. We got a few Nightwings. Yeah. I like Nightwing, as I mentioned before. Yep. Got quite a few Daredevils, actually, as well. Okay. He's a bit of a Daredevil. But the winner, by far, which was bizarre that this was the case. So just multiple, lots of people sent in. Yes, multiple people, including E.H. von Bronstein.

Hello. He was the one who also drew the Gotham mustache poster. That was great. He made a poster. It who also drew the Gotham mustache poster. That was great. He made a poster. It's Draxophone the Destroyer. So he wants the character to be, which I think we mentioned a while back. Oh, musical. Yeah, absolutely.

Yeah, yeah. So yeah, absolutely. Is it Drax? I haven't seen this. Is it Drax playing the saxophone or is it Drax? No, it's like a symbol kind of Twittery thing. It's incredible. He does great work.

But he said if that fails then go with Greasy Drax man yep good excellent also Charmath also wrote in and he said

Drax also shirtless and all so that's how you do it a lot of Drax people love Drax people love Drax so Mason that's the show

for this week fantastic if anybody wants to contact us please do thank you to those people who have also reached out to YouTube on my behalf

and all that to be like, what's going on? Hopefully things will happen soon. Maybe not. Yeah. But I appreciate that. Absolutely.

Thank you to Joseph Lisk for the theme song. Thank you for Gabriel Bruton for the theme song. All them theme songs. Two theme songs. Fantastic. All them theme songs.

Yep. All killer, no filler. That's right. You know it. If you want to reach out to the show, please do at weeklyplanetpod at Gmail, Facebook, Twitter.

Find Wikipedia. Find Mason at... At Wikipedia Brown. Thank you for everybody who's at mentioning me. I am having fun interacting with people. Absolutely. I didn't think I would because I'm unsociable and I hate everyone. But here we go.

It's good fun. So say hi. I had a few people contact last week. Remember I said my enemy would be somebody who bothers me too much? People are like, I probably bother you too much or whatever. Not at all. I want to make that clear.

People do not bother me too much. I love getting the correspondence. I might not be able to get back straight away or sometimes at all, but I appreciate everything. And so I don't want people to think that it's a hassle that if you contact the show. It's quite the opposite.

It's a big hassle. Is that the opposite? Correct. No the show, it's quite the opposite. It's a big hassle. Is that the opposite? Correct. No, seriously, it's not at all. So, yeah, don't think that that was a dig at anybody in the audience, except for that one guy you know who you are. Yeah. You bloody back off, mate.

And if you don't know who it is, it's you. Yeah. That's right. So I appreciate that. But you can reach me at MrSundayMovies on Twitter. I passed 1,000 Twitter followers this week, Mason. Jealous much? A little bit. Yeah. Hey, jealousy? Hey, jealousy. reach me at MrSundayMovies on Twitter I passed a thousand Twitter followers this week Mason jealous much a little bit

yeah hey jealousy hey jealousy so yeah next week Mason big show Spider-Man the amazing

Spider-Man 2 maybe you'll see it I should probably see it yeah it's been out here for like

what six weeks not that long two weeks yeah week and a half long enough one week I'll see you tomorrow

yeah yeah sure can't wait to talk about that, Mason. Okay. I've got a lot of things to say. Also, we might be going to the Melbourne premiere of X-Men Days of Future Past. Oh, yeah, we could do that too. Yeah.

We're paying for it, by the way, just so people are clear. I'm not... We're getting no tickets for this. Come on, Sony or Fox or whoever you are. Whatever, yeah. Whatever dumb company. Let us see your dumb movie for free, you dumb dickheads. Yeah.

So that'll be exciting. Or not. We might be able to see Hugh Jackman on the red carpet. Oh. You know what? I don't want to do that, though. What if he's just there working out like a mad dog? No, then I'm going to interrupt his workout.

Mr. Jackman, can I have your towel? Can I have your workout towel? Love it. Yeah. Thanks, everyone. Thanks for listening. Bye.

Bye. Weekly Planet Exclusive.