The Weekly Planet - 310 Franchise Killing Movies

Episode Date: November 11, 2019

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and they are like it's better than yours. Damn right it's better than yours. Damn right, it's better than yours. I can teach you, but I have to charge. Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of the Weekly Planet, where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday. With me is always my co-host, Nick Mason. Great to be here.

I mean, it's sort of great to be here. What do you say that, Mason? When I came in here, your dog assaulted me. Oh, my God. Assaulted me in my own home, specifically your home. Look at this slash across my arm. Is that a tooth mark or a knife mark? I think it's a claw mark.

It's a claw mark, yeah. You're supposed to clip dogs' nails, aren't you, or something? No, no, I say wait until tragedy strikes and then do it. This is the first lesson, is it? Yeah, exactly. That's right. I understand. Well, look, I'll get around to it.

Tell me which claw it was and which dog, just be sure. There's so many dogs out there. I didn't see it happen either. You let so many dogs in your house. That's the problem. Your real Dr. Dolittle, the bad version, whichever the worst version is. Probably that new one? Yeah, probably the new one.

We haven't seen it yet. Maybe it's amazing. That's true, yeah. But it is bringing back something from the past. And speaking of... Yes? Anton Ernst and Tati Gola... Bladder. Yes.

Their new movie is going to be set during the Vietnam War, but it also has an interesting cast member. This is a quote from... What is this? What's going on? Just listen up. Okay. This is what Anton said.

This is a bit of sizzle. I like it. We searched high and low for the perfect character to portray the role of Rogan. Joe Rogan, obviously. Absolutely, yeah. Right? Yeah, for sure. Anyway, which has some extreme complex character arcs.

Are you sure it's not portray the character of Rogaine? The hair regrowth serum? We get Joe Rogan for that. Yeah. Oh, my goodness. again, the hair regrowth serum. We get Joe Rogan for that. Yes.

Oh, my goodness. And after months of research, we decided on James Dean, the actor who died in 1955, well before the Vietnam War. And well before the current time, yeah. Wow. Oh, that's okay. I've heard some rumblings about this this week. Yeah, so people are pretty upset about this. Yeah.

The South African VFX company, MOY Worldwide, is to digitally create a realistic version of James Dean by using actual footage and photos from his past works, in addition to a new voice actor to voice James Dean. Gilbert Gottfried. That's right. Ah! Where is Hal?

And I'm a bird! He's a bird in the sea, right? Uh-huh. James Dean, what are you rebelling against? What do you got? What do you got? What do you got? I'm really looking forward to it Me too

This is a different level of Bringing somebody back I feel Yeah, because this isn't I mean Well, on one level It's not It's not bringing back The visual of James Dean

For like a Coca-Cola commercial or something like that. I don't know if they've done that. Is that a McDonald's commercial where he's eating the burger or whatever? Yeah, maybe. Maybe that was an actor, though, being James Dean. Yeah, right. Yeah, I feel like they have brought him back for stuff. I'll look it up while you're talking, though.

Okay, but I feel like that is gross. Sure. And I guess bringing back James Dean in a movie where you're like, it's the 50s and look at all the stars of yesteryear or as we call it the current day and there's James Dean over there and you just see him. Like that's one thing. Yeah, and he's waving.

But to bring back James Dean and have him play the role of a different character is pretty wild. It is really weird. I'd also kind of understand it more if it was maybe a World War II film or something because he didn't see any of this. It's a strange. That's true, yeah. I mean, obviously you don't have to experience something to act in it.

Well, James Dean had to. That was part of his process. I just think it's a really – I mean, you know what? I think a lot of this is hype. For sure, yeah, right. I hype. Because who would have been talking about this movie if they hired... Literally no one. Also, my question is, does that mean they have to have had acquired

the license from the family of James Dean? They did, yes. Okay, right. Two of his cousins apparently talked about... I just read some articles and they were like, we're fine with it or whatever. But quite frankly, look, I've got cousins that I like and I've got cousins that I don't like, but none of them I'd feel comfortable with being like, yeah, he's dead and this is what he would have wanted or whatever.

Do you know what I mean? Yeah. I mean, but maybe they were very close. Who's to say? But that seems like an odd. But also at the same time for them, it's money. You know, it's his family. They get paid.

So there's that element of it. I mean, they're not getting enough money from those, you know, it's his family. They get paid. So there's that element of it. I mean, they're not getting enough money from those, you know, those famous stars of the 50s playing pool in a bar scenes where they're all just hanging out together. It's James Dean. It's Humphrey Bogart. Oh, my God. It's Top Cat.

Top Cat is there. He's just eating a whole fish and you know that because he's just pulled a fish skeleton out of his mouth and he's offering it to James Dean for a toke on that fish skeleton, you know that because he's just pulled a fish skeleton out of his mouth and he's offering it to james dean for a toke on that fish skeleton you know there's just a couple of bros hanging out in an alley so i mean yeah because they did it with grand moff tarkin uh-huh uh they famous actor from the 50s grand moff yeah i mean but that also made more sense because it was a movie set within you know it was a character was a returning you know, it was a returning character or whatever. I mean, if this was Rebel Without a Cause 2 and was he in that?

I think he was. The sequel, no. Oh. But if it was that and they were like, well, we've got to bring back his iconic character because there's more to say with that character, you'd be like, okay, well, I get that, I guess, and it would be an interesting, at the very least it would be an interesting experiment in visual effects.

But to be like, I guess if I were James Dean's cousins slash whatever vague relation these people are that are selling off, that somehow have his licence rights and are selling them off, I guess my question would be what role would James Dean have said yes to and would I then give him that role in whatever this? It's so long ago. This sounds like an Irv Ball production. I don't want to make any assumptions based on the names of the...

Well, let's see. Let me check out these. I did look up their work, but I didn't see anything that I recognised. Yeah, there used to be a... There was a McDonald's ad, I think. It was an actor, I think. Yeah, and it was to David Essex's Rock On. Yes.

And he's walking down a street And he's eating a burger They did the movie Safari In 2013 Surviving Evil in 2009 And Momentum in 2015 Never heard of any of those Yeah

Okay now Let's say hypothetically speaking You do die James And Your cousins get control Of your Your licensing Yeah

What would What would they What would you want them To put you in I want them to recreate This podcast Week to week forever okay right you can come back thank you you can be you okay great and i'll be snippets of me okay not gilbert gottfried well look if he's available sure yeah maybe you could probably seamlessly intertwine that i think it could yeah yeah yeah it'd be you you like, hey, here's the latest trailer for,

and then Godfrey would be like, Toy Story 6! And I'm in a bird costume! And people wouldn't know. That's true. Yeah. I'm really excited. Here's the final quote. At the end of the day, what we really wanted people to know is

the movie is about love and friendship, the veterans that served in the Vietnam War, and especially the dogs that were with them. So it's about the dogs that were left in Vietnam. There was like 10,000 trained dogs or something. We never wanted to lose that emphasis, and this social media reaction becomes a distraction of what the story is about.

What did you think would happen? Again, I... We just wanted to talk about dogs in Vietnam. We thought the only way we can talk about abandoned dogs in Vietnam is if we bring back a dead actor. An actor who's been dead for literally decades. Who never would have experienced any kind of... Who famously was killed by a dog.

Oh, yes. He was killed by 10,000 dogs. I don't know if you're aware of that. Well, then this doesn't honour him at all, does it? No. This guy's older than our parents, James Dean. Yeah. I mean, he's not.

I mean, no. Chronologically, yes. Anyway, there you go. I mean, he's not. I mean, no. Chronologically, yes. Anyway, there you go. I love it. I hope the 10,000 dogs are recreations of famous dogs that have died in Hollywood. Maybe those dogs. Brin-tin-tin.

Maybe those dogs that are playing. Benji. The dogs that are playing poker. Yes. And Top Cat. Milo and Otis. Yes, that's right. It's the 10,000 dogs that were killed in Milo and Otis.

They're bringing them all back. Whichever one Milo was or Otis, I don't know. I think Milo was the, no, Milo's the cat? I don't know. I don't know. You know, I still to this day don't know whether the first movie I saw in cinemas was Milo and Otis or Superman 4. I need to look up the dates on that. I think they came out the same year, here at least.

Anyway, I feel like I should add to everything that the dates on that. So I think they came out the same year, year at least. Anyway, I feel like I should add to everything that ever comes out that like, this is probably some kind of PR spin. Oh yeah, for sure. I know we don't say that. We don't say that every time. Maybe we should open the podcast with that. You know,

guys, what we're about to talk about is pretty much PR spin for, for everything we say here. That's right. Speaking of PR spin. Oh, the spin doctors are out. I was going to say the Batman.

And I'm not talking about the band that produced Two Princes, the classic single. That's who I thought you were talking about. The number one single. I was talking about the Batsmen. Jimmy Olsen Blues, there's a relevant reference to this podcast. You know it goes, in Batman? Yeah.

Because we're talking about Batman. Okay, cool. Colin Farrell is rumoured to be up for the Penguin and Andy Serkis as Alfred. Presumably he's mo-capping as a much older, more British man. I assume. You think so? Well, he's a pretty young Alfred, isn't he?

I heard Andy Serkis is going to do the mo-cap for James Dean. Oh, really? Yeah. But they're going to age up James Dean and make him Bruce Wayne's butler. Perfect. Isn't it, though? James Dean British? Yeah.

Well, they're going to make him British, obviously, with the voice of Gilbert Gottfried. This is complicated, but I'm into it. So are we doing... I've cleaned your costume, sir! That's not very British. That's good. Yeah, it was good, right?

He needs some practice, obviously. Colin Farrell is Penguin. Are they doing sexy Penguin? Well, Gotham would give us some precedent for, at the very least, tall, rangy Penguin, right? Is he tall enough? I don't know about sexy. I think he's tall.

Yeah. I mean, Colin Farrell has been not sexy in things. Name a single thing he's not been sexy. Okay. The second season of True Detective where he's like, I'm slightly overweight and I hate my family or whatever. My son, maybe not my son. Vince Vaughn's in this season. I'm slightly overweight and I hate my family or whatever. My son, maybe not my son.

Vince Vaughn's in this season. I'm pretty sure all of that is getting somebody going. That's probably true. I'm kind of fat and I hate my family. There are people out there going, mmm, yum, yum. Everything gets everybody going at this point, doesn't it? That's true, yeah. Everything is a thirst trap, Mason.

Oh, yes. I'm using that language too. Yeah, you get it. I get it. But anyway, but that... He could definitely do the hair. Yeah, Gotham's. I get it. But anyway, he could definitely do the hair. Yeah, Gotham's penguin was kind of like tall and thin and like some oily hair.

I don't know if he was tall. He was tall. That guy's tall. Is he? What's his name? I don't know. I'll look it up. Okay, look up Gotham penguin. How tall is he? Because he was also in John Wick, one of the John Wicks. Oh yeah, he was. Robin Taylor. There we go. Height. We want height. We want foot size.

168 centimetres. Tall-ish, isn't it? No, it's not. That's like 10 centimetres shorter than me. Oh, then he might be very thin. That's what I said. Also, I watch all my television on a TV that's like two inches wide and like six foot high. Are you one of those tall boys?

Yeah, I've got a tall voice. Yeah, they're good, aren't they? Maybe that's skewing my perception of the TV show Gotham. Wouldn't everybody else also be taller than him then? Yeah, everybody's 9,000 feet tall on that show. Is that not accurate? That's very accurate. I'm just eyeballing it.

Yeah. I'm kind of surprised by the Andy Serkis thing. He could definitely do it. I'm kind of, I was really keen on that Pierce Brosnan rumour though as well. Yeah, me too. But, you know, I think this is all good acting. We get sent a lot of casting lists of, like, here's very definitively, I've got the inside scoop

on what the casting is for this movie. That's true, we do. And then 50% of it usually is just rumours on the internet that we've already talked about. And then the remaining 50% is just complete random. It seems like fan theories. Fan casting and some actors that are dead. Yeah, exactly.

Just friends of the person who sent it in. I saw also the guy from Succession turned down the role of Two-Face. Okay. He's the son, the eldest son. You haven't seen Succession? I haven't seen Succession. Look, all you need to know about it is... That's exclusive in Australia to Foxtel and stealing it off the internet, right?

That is, that's right. All you need to know about Succession is the clip that I saw on Twitter. It's Succession, but it's everybody wants the M&Ms. Oh, yes. And it's just incredible. I've retweeted it. I watch it maybe three times a day. I'm not even joking.

I think you kind of have to know the show to get it. But it's go to the toilet and watch this thing on Twitter. It's phenomenal. Okay. Especially if you've seen it. If you haven't, I showed Claire and I'm like, is this anything? And she this thing on Twitter. It's phenomenal. Okay. Especially if you've seen, if you haven't, I showed Claire and I'm like, is this anything? And she's like, no.

Speaking of Foxtel though, you were at my house the other day when I was having a big old bitch. Is that why you're still mad? Because I got here today and you were like, I'm really mad today for some reason. I don't know why. Because I don't have a kitchen for a while. We had our kitchen pulled out.

We're going to get a new kitchen, hopefully. Your previous kitchen was made illegal. That's right, exactly, yeah. But so Foxtel, it looks like they're getting all the HBO Max stuff. You have 100%

asbestos kitchen. Excellent, finally. Just get it into the food, sprinkle it in. Yeah, so Foxtel in Australia, again, this is, we talk too much about Foxtel

for a very international show. But everybody should hate Foxtel as much as we hate Foxtel. They're getting all the HBO Max stuff. So we're not getting HBO Max. So it looks like we're not getting it. But look, even if this Foxtel as much as we hate Foxtel. They're getting all the HBO Max stuff. So we're not getting HBO Max. So it looks like we're not getting it.

But look, even if this Foxtel app went down to, you know, if it was two bucks a month, I still wouldn't get it. I just would. I couldn't lay out the money for it. You know, because I was talking about to you how who's watching this like here? And you said boomers. And I'm like, okay. But yesterday I was speaking to one of the builders here

and he was asking me about, you know, kind of what I do for a job or whatever. Oh, yeah. How do you avoid that? Well, Claire brought it up. Normally I don't tell people because it's just easier. What do you say? Because I know a lot of stand-up comedians. I just say media.

And they say writer. Or I say podcast. Wow. Because podcast is easier than YouTube. Because then it's like, YouTube, like toy reviews? I'm like, yeah And they say writer. Or I say podcast. Wow. Because podcast is easier than YouTube. Because then it's like, YouTube, like toy reviews? I'm like, yeah, like toy reviews. Like unboxing toys. Yeah, right.

Yeah, but anyway, he was a very nice guy, but he was talking about, no, I got rid of Netflix. There was nothing that I wanted. Foxtel was all I kind of need. I'm like, okay, so that's who's paying. So what you're saying is he's a very nice guy, but bad taste in streaming services. Well, you know, there's stuff on there for some people. And you're like, get out.

I mean, finish the kitchen, obviously. I'll keep my asbestos kitchen. I don't even care. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret. The other, a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+. This is back and it's huge news.

The Dark Universe. Oh, it's back. But it might be good this time. No. Because the Invisible Man trailer. Oh, I see. This is a Blumhouse production. It's a Blumhouse production.

This is Lee Whannell, friend of the show. Or friend of me specifically because you weren't there for the interview. I get it. I mean, look, he didn't retweet the interview that I did with him. So clearly he wasn't that enamored by my presence. But I like to think that he thinks about me. I put a word in his ear beforehand. I'm like, if you could really scuttle this interview,

I'd appreciate that. Just to keep the playing field a little bit. Absolutely. So Elizabeth Moss is starring in The Invisible Man and it's definitely a more horror element than The Invisible Man is, I don't know, good with swords, which was something they probably have done before, I assume. Maybe in League of Extraordinary Gentlemen,

was he the one that was good with swords? Or was that Ahab? That was Captain Ahab, yes. He was good with swords, wasn't he? He was so good with swords. I don't even think the Invisible Man from that was the original Invisible Man, wasn't it? Because they didn't have the rights to him.

They just had to do an Invisible Man. I think in the comic books his name's Hawley griffin i don't know if that's the original name of the original invisible man but maybe they didn't mention it in the movie i don't know but i was gonna say i would say at that time period you probably everybody had to be a little bit good with the sword right yeah sure probably learned it in school because of dueling yes and if you're like if you're in a gunfight you get one shot and then it swords all the way that's right yeah unless you have a significant amount of cover for a significant amount of time like you have five minutes that's right there's some crates and like a hedge maze yeah very good like i've got five minutes in this hedge maze

to reload so what do you think of the trailer looked really interesting i wish it didn't do like the whole movie though you kind of did didn't't it? Because the idea is that she thinks that her ex-husband is dead, but he's actually the invisible man. Yeah. Well, everybody else thinks that he's dead. But he's the invisible man. But he's the invisible man. And it's kind of like, I guess it's sort of, you know,

meant to bring up like themes of domestic abuse and kind of, you know, this idea that someone in a relationship thinks that their partner is a threat, but everybody else is like, no, they're a good person. They're fine. He's never done anything bad to me. Like turn invisible and try to murder me. It's never happened. I don't believe you.

So I get that, but you're absolutely right. If you don't want to watch the trailer, if you don't want to know how the movie pretty much goes. Don't do it. Don't do it. Yeah. And then kind of, you know know in this kind of movie also i think you would it's called the invisible man but like stylistically it does seem like a kind

of a domestic drama yes i think if you if you went into this blind you would be like maybe he isn't really invisible man maybe it's a metaphor kind of thing right yeah the movie is the the trailer is basically going to tell you one way or the other what it is. Okay, right. So, you know. I get you. Don't watch it if you don't. I would say definitely do not watch it. Yeah. Yeah. The movie The Invisible Man?

No, watch that because I genuinely think. What about League of Extraordinary Gentlemen? You should definitely watch that, right? I'm actually just Googling that right now. It says The Invisible Thief Rodney Skinner. So I'm going to Rodney Skinner, seeing if he is. No, I don't think he is the original. Huh.

So in the movie he's called Rodney Skinner. He's called Rodney Skinner. Rodney Skinner. Okay, right. Okay, no, that's not the original as far as I know. That's what I thought. Why would I even remember that, though? Like, why do I have that knowledge? I guess for this, I guess.

Yeah. Imagine if I didn't do this and I still knew that, which I would have. Yeah. Like, what a fucking waste of brain space. Anyway. I'm wondering, I often wonder, because I think we all have that.

If you like this sort of stuff, there's stuff that you picked up early on, like when you're a teenager or whatever, and it stays in there no matter what and it pushes out other things. And I'm wondering what the piece of pop culture information that's going to go into my brain that pushes out something really important. Yeah, right. Like my banking passwords or like, you know. How to use a sword in a duel.

How to use a sword in a duel. Imagine if that, somebody's already slapped me with it or I've slapped somebody with a glove. So this is the thing. I've slapped somebody with a glove. This is your own doing. So I'm demanding honour in this instance and I get the sword out and I'm like, how do I?

You've got it around the wrong way. I've got it around the wrong way. I'm holding it by the blade. I'm like, oh, no, I learned too much about the Invisible Man, the new version, and the one was called Rodney Skinner in League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, and I'm being stabbed. You're already being stabbed. This is the worst day of my life.

He's just stabbing you the whole time while you're explaining why you're not sword fighting. See, originally he was called Hawley Griffin and he was a scientist, I believe. I'm assuming it's some kind of copyright issue, but surely it would be out of copyright by now. I would imagine it's public domain. I mean, but these big Disney businesses,

they buy up, they extend the copyrights by some devious legal means. Oh my God, I've been stabbed like 19 times at this point. I'm not coming back from this. But in a way, I'm glad I'm dead because I don't have to think about the movie The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen anymore. But this means, though, if they're doing The Invisible Man,

that means we're doing LXG. We're definitely... Oh, there's going to be a modern... No, we're going to have to do it. I mean, for Caravan of Gardens. Oh, I see what you're saying. Okay. I thought you meant they're going to build

a League of Extraordinary Gentlemen-esque team in the Dark Universe again. They're going to attempt it again. I think it's entirely possible that if they do like separate ones and then maybe fold. I mean, this is supposed to be standalone and it looks better than every other Dark Universe attempt. I'd actually love to do the series. But this isn't Dark Universe.

No, but it is the same company. I would actually love to do like every failed attempt of isn't Dark Universe. No, but it is the same company. I would actually love to do like every failed attempt of the Dark Universe leading up to this. Yeah, right. So start with Alex G maybe. Uh-huh. Do the Wolfman. Yes.

Dracula Untold. The Mummy. Jack Nicholson's Wolf. Jack Nicholson's Wolf, obviously the very first attempt. So anyway, we'll talk. Genuinely though, this looks good. The Vlob. Yeah, the Vlob?

Yeah, the Vlob. The Vlog. Yes. The most terrifying horror of them all, the Vlog. The Vlog. Genuinely though This looks good The vlog Yeah the vlog Yeah the vlog The vlog The most terrifying Horror of them all The vlog The vlog Hey guys It's us

We're just You know We're gonna get A new Apple Mac Or whatever We're doing They're always getting A new Apple Mac

Yeah they're always Getting an Apple Mac Yeah it's true Yeah anyway I genuinely The only clips I see Of like vloggers It's that

And it's also like I just bought Three Ferraris at the same time. What do you think of this? Nothing. Are you going to give me one? Then I'm not interested. I'm not clicking that.

Nothing is the right answer. Here we go. My family's rich. But I'm pretending that I've got all this money from YouTube. There's so much of that. Like so many Ferraris. JJ Abrams has apparently got eight minutes

of footage to work with of Carrie Fisher in Tross as in The Rise of Skywalker. The Rise of Skywalker. That's according to Todd Fisher,

Carrie Fisher's brother. So that's not a Tron sequel. Tross. You wish it was a Tron sequel. I do wish it was a Tron sequel. We're never getting a Tron sequel, Mason. Ah, boo.

Maybe we can talk about that later with the thing we're talking about today. I actually haven't got it in the list. He said that they grabbed every frame and analyzed it,

then reverse engineered it, and they got into the story the right way. It's kind of magical. Now, originally he also said that she was going to be like the last Jedi of sorts in this final movie, and she would have done some lightsaber stuff. I think it could have been interesting. I assume they're not doing that now because they wouldn't have filmed any of that. They wouldn't have filmed it. Eight minutes is not a lot, but also

I wonder if they're, I think they're doing Last Jedi stuff as well. I mean, they did. They did wonderful things with Godzilla with eight minutes, didn't they? They certainly did. Stomped and he left. Stomped and he left. He stomped and he swapped. He certainly did. So this is obviously a different, this is again bringing,

we've got two bits of bringing people back from the dead. But one is okay and one is not okay. Yeah, where is the line? Well, I mean, Carrie Fisher was signed on to be in Star Wars 9, I assume. And hopefully her daughter and family get all the money and all that. Yeah. Do you think there maybe should be a decade cut off, a franchise cut off for people dying?

Like who gets the rights? This is all very new ground, isn't it? It really is, yeah. Yeah. But the most important thing is that The Mandalorian is out this week. Oh, yeah. As is Jedi Star Wars Fallen Order, the new game. That's right.

Oh, my God. So next week we'll probably do a Mandalorian slash Fallen Order episode. Okay, then. You'll play Summer Fallen Order. I'll play Summer Fallen Order. And I'll try and play as much as I can. So we'll get into that next week. Which are you most excited for, video games or televisual series?

Televisual series, I think. Because you hate video games? Because you're an old man? I hate video games because I'm an old man. Too many buttons. I only like television that comes out week to week. That's all I like. Well, that's what we're getting.

Yeah. Are you happy with that? Am I happy with that? Yeah, week to week, I mean. No, week to week. Oh, yeah, I think so, yeah. I like week to week. I don't want to rush it.

Yeah. And I feel like that's often the pressure with streaming stuff is people want to talk about the entire series. Yes, immediately. 24 hours after it came out and I'm like, I've got to sleep. You've got to stay off Twitter. Stay off Twitter, exactly. Yeah, because when I used to make Easter egg videos

for those Marvel Netflix shows until I stopped watching them and everybody, I assume, stopped watching them. They stopped making them, didn't they? Yep. It was a nightmare. Like you'd shotgun like 10 or 13 episodes, whatever it was, and then make a video. It was no good.

And I'm glad that they've cancelled them simply for that reason. Yeah. I'm glad all those people lost their jobs. That's right. I mean, that's the only reason you sent all those letters. That's right. I'm using thousands of assumed names. You started a cancellation campaign.

Good. It was on change.org. It was the only one that's ever worked. Wow. Yeah. I mean, I've been waiting for a good Star Wars game for what feels like over 10 years. What was the last good one?

People like Force Unleashed. I think it's okay. But you liked it at the time. No, I thought it was okay at the time. Did you play Force Unleashed 2? I did. I played it. That it was okay at the time. Did you play Force Unleashed 2? I did. That one was one of the few games I returned and went, this is not good and give me my money.

Wow, okay. And I rarely returned anything. But they'd rushed it out and it was really short. And also now it's all left up in the air, that series, because Darth Vader was captured at the end. Oh, what? How did he escape? Did he escape?

Yes. But how did he escape? Did he escape? Yes. But how did he escape? Lightsaber. Lightsaber, probably. Yeah, probably, yeah. Yeah. Oh, man. Probably brought in an evil R2-D2 with a lightsaber.

Oh, that's where we're at, aren't we? Mm-hmm, yeah. You saw the new droid for the new Star Wars? There's a wheel and a triangle. Yeah, a wheel and a triangle, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. The Boys is wrapped, apparently.

Oh, season two. Season two. It'll be out mid-next year, which is probably about the time the last one came out. Mid this year, didn't it? Yeah, so excited for that? Me too. I said, are you excited for that?

Yeah, me too. I might not have said that. It felt like I said it. Oh, I see, right, yeah. When I thought I said it. That's what I thought I said. I don't know. Sure.

Yeah, so you are? It's very exciting. And especially since it seems to be taking some liberties with the original comic book series, that seemed to be positive and good changes for TV. I think so. That's cool. And people flying through other people and whatever.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's what you like. Anyway, we'll talk more about that when it's out in, whenever I said just then. But in other news, and this came out while I was in New Zealand, Mason, Into the Spider-Verse 2 has been announced for April of 2022. A number of logos were flashed up to be like, which there's a new Spider-Man coming,

confirmed is that of Japanese Spider-Man, the one who keeps his costume in his wrist and he gets into a big robot. Big robot. And maybe he has a car also. Yeah, Spider-Man, the one who keeps his costume in his wrist and he gets into a big robot. Big robot. And maybe he has a car also. Yeah, Spider-Man. Has he got enough stuff? He's got enough stuff for a team of dudes.

You know what I mean? That's true, yeah. And he jealously guards it all for himself. He certainly does. Do you know what the deal is with the rights to that? No idea. Should we look it up? Yeah, why not?

Japanese Spider-Man. I mean, I'm assuming at this point, Disney just bought out all existing copies of that TV series and the company that made it and the nation of Japan. Well, it's Sony. Oh, yeah, that's true. Yeah, yeah. Oh, and they're Japanese.

And they're Japanese. Perfect. Yeah. Japanese spider crab? Yeah, that's right. Japanese spider crab size. Okay, here we go. All right, the Japanese spider crab has the greatest leg span of any arthropod.

Is that true? Reaching up to 5.5 meters. What? From claw to claw. Look at it. Terrifying. Isn't he big? Probably delicious, though.

Yes. Oh, it looks delicious. Imagine putting some garlic butter on that. Yum, yum, yum. Or still alive. I'm eating it while it's still alive. Yeah, of course you are. You've got to fight it.

Yeah. I'm not good at sword fighting, but I'm great at japanese crab fighting yeah that's what pushed out your sword fighting knowledge oh no that was the lxg thing uh this the show though was a result of a three-year licensing agreement with marvel that allowed them to both use the other properties in any way they wanted what so that explains also it was 1978 to 1979 so you know that makes a lot of sense to me because you know they were coming hot off the back of that Captain America cereal. Oh, yeah, sure. In the 40s that we talked about in the video.

You mean the boxed cereal? Yeah, the boxed cereal. Sugar cereal, yeah. Maybe the Doctor Strange pilot. Oh, yeah, that might have been the 70s. That might have been the 70s, yeah. So there you go. So, yeah, there's an honest trailer for it, actually,

if you do want to kind of get a rundown of this. But maybe we'll cover that for Caravan of Garbage. So does that mean that Marvel used a Japanese character in their comic books? I don't think so. Because they had some giant robots back in the day in their, like, you know, not quite your Voltrons. Yeah. You kind of, there's like a red, white and blue, big kind of blocky samurai kind of robot.

Right, okay. Which got put into Marvel Comics briefly. I don't know what that character's called, though. So maybe that was that character. Yeah. It says initially they planned to use Spider-Man as a supporting character for an unmade television series where he was sent to the present via a time warp.

The character would have appeared on the show and intended to be identical to the Marvel version. However, they decided to reinvent it so he's a 22-year-old motocross champion or something. That's right, yes. And he sees a UFO falling to Earth and gives him powers or something. Oh, spider powers. Spider powers. Incredible.

Did you know that the Japanese crab will eat just about anything, including corpses? Well, yeah. When it says anything, could it eat... Let me know if people say goats eat tin cans. I don't think they actually... Would it eat a tin can? This says. Would it eat a spinning buzzsaw? I'm reading some facts about Japanese spider crabs.

This one just says they don't only live in the deep sea. So there could be one in your house right now and you don't know. Don't give a shit, man. I'll got you here. As long as you're here, I'm safe. That's true. That is true. I need you to stay over.

Okay. Well, they can live for the rest of my life. They can live for over a century. Oh, wow. Yeah. And I don't think I can. to stay over. Okay, well, they can live for the rest of my life. They can live for over a century, so. Oh, wow. Yeah, and I don't think I can, so good luck. Yeah. But you can, so you're in trouble. Oh, no.

Yeah. In other news, Marvel news, Ant-Man is getting a sequel. Yeah. The Rant-Man. The Rant-Man. Hello. More sandwiches? Oh, no.

Oh, no. Do you want a big sandwich? Yeah. Classic. That's, no. Oh, no. Do you want a big sandwich? Yeah. Classic. That's classic. That's classic material. But I would say at this point it's old rope. You know what I mean?

No, don't. I'm back from making that big sandwich. Oh, my goodness. Classic return. No, he's doing this thing where we're running and I'm chasing him. It just happened just then. And he just constantly is just telling me how slow I am as I'm chasing him. You could crush him in a full race.

I could crush him, I feel. See, you've reached that point. And this is why I feel I couldn't be a parent. I couldn't stoop to debasing myself in such a manner. You could destroy him in a foot race. Well, I feel like the trick is to kind of not let him win every time. Because then he'll get better, I feel.

Oh, right. But if you defeat him every time, he'll give up. Exactly. You've got to find that fine line. Yeah, right. But what if one day you time, he'll give up. Exactly. It's like you've got to find that fine line. Yeah, right. But what if one day you're like, I'm going to show this kid what's what, and then you really kick off and then he just destroys you. It'll definitely happen. Yeah, wow.

You think soon? Oh, yeah, definitely. He's pretty fast. Right. Yeah. Okay, what have we got? So Ant-Man 3. Sometimes one day he's just going to come in here and he's going to be like,

thing to put on a T-shirt? Saying like, thing to put on a T-shirt? Saying that we'll get put on a T-shirt? Merchandisable quote, Dad? What do you think about that? And you'd be like, oh, finally. Great stuff. He is my son. Finally.

Ant-Man 3. Thrant-Man. Thrant-Man. Let's call it. Okay. Peyton Reed will return as director. Okay. I'm not interested, but why not?

There you go. What could make you interested? Well, I'm trying to think, what can Ant-Man do that he hasn't doomed? He's been big. He's been small. He's been regular human size. He's been slightly smaller than regular human size. What if he was skinny tall like your TV?

Oh, yeah. Or wide, just wide. Oh, yeah. Yeah, wall man. Wall man. I wide, just wide. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, wall man. Wall man. I'm trying to think. I mean, I guess it would just be maybe a team-up thing who you put him with.

It's just what the adventure, who the villain is. There's another shrinky man or whatever. The last one, his villain wasn't a shrinky man, was it? That's true. It was a Wally Goggins stealing a suitcase. That's correct, yeah. She had a building in it or whatever. Okay.

Yeah. Yeah, I think Ant-Man, I've said this before, I think he works most interestingly to me when he's in other stuff. Yeah, right. Like I like him more in the- Like Thanos' butt. Exactly. I like him more in Civil War, The Avengers, Infinity War and Endgame than I do.

Yeah, right. No, he's not in Infinity War, is he? No, he's only in Endgame, I think. Who's to say? Who's to say? Who's to say? Anyway, yeah, they're making it and that's good. Yeah.

Because they've done time travel-ish. They've done crime travel. Crime travel. They've done that also. Do you think they're going to bring back TI now? Oh, after the thing he said about his daughter or whatever. That's so weird. That is weird, yeah.

How's he doing that? I don't know. It's weird. Let's not get into it. Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of Marvel also, again, according to Bloomberg, the website, if you want to understand- the website. Oh, yeah.

I go to for weather information. You know it, is it? I don't know. Do you just use the weather app? No, I do that. I've never gone to Bloomberg for any reason. Well, there you have. Well, I have.

You have through me. If you want to understand everything in the future of Marvel movies, Kevin Feige says you'll probably need a Disney Plus subscription because events of the new show will factor into forthcoming films such as Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness. That's right, I heard Loki I think is tying into that one specifically. They're all tying in, yeah. All that What If stuff apparently. Yeah, right. Okay. Well, we knew this was coming

I feel. Yeah, it's inevitability. I think everybody's going to get it and it won't matter. I think the people who are going to keep up will keep up. Yeah. I also know people that saw Endgame and haven't seen the other ones, and they're like, yeah, it was fun. It was fun and whatever.

Everything exploded at once. Everything exploded. That guy got big, someone else got small, whatever. No one went up anyone's butt, which was strange. Yeah, that's going to hurt the sequel, obviously. Definitely, yeah. So I'm not really surprised by this. Also, there was a thing about, oh, sorry, go on.

Well, I was going to say, I mean, at the very least, you would have to build, like, an insurance policy into Multiverse of Madness. Like, you'd have to put enough context in that one for people who just aren't going to get Disney+. Yes. Because, you know, imagine going into the new Doctor Strange and just not understanding any of the references

and then going, well, maybe I won't see the next one. Yeah. Like that, you know. And that's not to say that big corporations haven't made huge dumb mistakes in the past. Sure. They sure have and will continue to do so. I can't think of any, but probably.

Yeah, yeah. So, you know, I mean, their gamble here is that everybody enjoys the Marvel movies so much that they are going to be like, well, I've got to get Disney Plus and I've got to understand all the references in the next movie, so I'm definitely going to watch these. Yes.

And maybe they're right, but maybe they're not. That's right. We'll find out, won't we? Well, apparently 90% of the people who have signed up to Disney Plus, which is huge numbers apparently, I've got them in front of me, but it's for The Mandalorian. Oh, yeah. Which makes 100% sense.

I don't think, I'm pretty confident I wouldn't have been getting it in its first week if not for the Mandalorian. I would have eventually gotten it. I didn't get Netflix until the day that Daredevil came out. Same. Yeah. So that's kind of, you know, it's a good way to get people in. So that's the world we live in, streaming services and contents.

Did you see also they released a lot of the European dates in the UK? It's like March of next year, which means you're pretty much just guaranteeing piracy between now and then. Yeah, who's out there being like, no, I could probably wait for The Mandalorian. I'm assuming it's a licensing thing. I don't know. Maybe they're...

I don't know. Because it doesn't really make a lot of sense to me. I mean, it's not... Maybe Arnie has something to do with it. That could be. The BBC. For whatever reason. TV licensing.

You've got to buy a TV license. What's going on there? They drive around looking to see if you're doing illegal TVs. Wow. Yeah, I used to have one, a TV license. At some point we didn't have one. You didn't have a TV? Oh, in England?

Yeah. Oh, no, we didn't have a license when I was there. Yeah, right. And I was like, well, what if we don't answer the door? Right. I'm like, I don't know. I mean, you didn't have the option because they started boarding up the door and all the windows.

Put a sniper rifle out the window. We lived in an apartment block, so I don't know how that would have worked. Anyway, I'm sure also the TV licence people who come to the door don't. How much was the TV licence? It wasn't that much, but I was very broke. Yeah, right. Like paycheck to paycheck, like broke. Yeah, right. Like paycheck to paycheck, like broke. Yeah, right.

My friend Barry, who you know, used to fish in the couch for coins so he could get to work. That was how broke we were. Wow. Yeah. So anyway, yeah, so I don't think it's an accident. It's obviously not an accident. I like the idea that Barry was like a stockbroker or whatever,

but he had to pull coins out of there he wasn't doing well he wasn't picking back at all the wrong horses you know what i mean yeah but yeah it's the launch is not an accident every day he'd show up and his boss would be like barry you were on thin ice here barry i mean are you gonna show me some show me some show me some proof you're a success barry and he's like check out these babies. Check out all these coins. That was a button. But look how nice and look how shiny it is.

Speaking of what he did, this is really not cool, but it's not that uncool. We're not going to get letters. But he didn't have any lunch one day because he had no money to buy lunch. This is in the past, right? This is not currently. This is 11 years ago. Okay, right.

So he went to work and he stole someone's lunch from the fridge and ate it in the toilet. Does that sound like a Barry thing? That's one of the most Barry things I've ever heard. Yeah. Yeah. I don't condone it, but I respect it. And that person's lunch he stole was J.K. Rowling.

What? Yeah. That inspired her. To what? Make Fantastic Beasts? Barry's the Dursleys. Okay, right. Okay.

Oh, Fantastic Beasts, speak it of. Oh, yeah. Begin shooting spring of 2020. They go to Brazil. Brazil. Oh, Caliente. Caliente. So, yeah, I mean, we know they're making these they'll

push back for a couple of times but how many's left three there's three left but we'll see won't we yeah oh do you think they might just knock off it and knock it off in two no if it's shit oh yeah if it does well uh-huh depends there was so much they should have leaned more into the dumbledore stuff yeah right unless into the new characters and cousins of babies who were lost on a ship or whatever whatever happens yuck oh that's right yeah yeah not good now they what they should have leaned into they should have done 10 minutes of setup and then an hour and two hours of just that weird expository dialogue where they're just like and here's the flashback and here's what the flashback means and that's what it means to me and you and here's how weback, and here's what the flashback means, and that's what it means to me and you,

and here's how we're all connected. And then someone else has a flashback immediately after. Yeah, that's what it is. It's been an air flashback. Yeah, I didn't enjoy that at all. Do you think that they would leave this saga hanging, or do you think if they're going to cut off a movie or two movies, do you think they might just finish the storyline?

Or just that you think they might be like, and here's a cliffhanger and maybe we'll never get the solution. That's what they did for like, I feel like the DC universe is kind of in that kind of, that's true, in that shape at the very moment. What happened to Steppenwolf? He went into space.

But is he okay? Your kid is approaching. I can hear him. He's coming in hot and fast. Hello. What's up? Small sandwich. Do you want a big sandwich or a small sandwich?

I want a big one. Classic. That is classic. He knows what he's doing. Some classic work. I'm going to catch you though, this time. I think you should catch him and prove. I'm going to teach him a lesson.

Yeah, I think you should. He's pretty fast, but I didn't catch him. How are you making a sandwich in that amount of time? Oh, it's just, it's very limited. It's just like. Don't tell people what's in the sandwich. Very quick, fold it over. Just be done with it.

I got everything already out. Because I'd already been making him some big sandwiches. I understand. He's hungry. Yeah. He's getting faster. I was going to say. Yeah. Constant hunger for sandwiches. I was going to say. Yeah.

Constant hunger for sandwiches. So how do you feel about them? Last time they maybe went to Paris, didn't they? They definitely went to some sort of cobblestone streeted place that was quite similar to the previous place they'd been. I saw someone mention that maybe it was a tweet or maybe I saw it in a video or something. I don't know where.

It's weird that Newt Scamander wrote a book about different lizards and shit when he could have written a book about wizarding Hitler because that's what it's loosely based on. Well, that's true, but, I mean, that's where his passions lie. I feel like it's more important to talk about the Hitler stuff, don't you? No. No? I say forget about history and then be doomed to repeat it.

Voldemort. Yep. That's what I say. Oh, yeah, I guess they didn't repeat weird creatures as much, did they? There wasn't as weird unknown creature stuff. I mean, there were barely any creatures getting loose out of a case, were they, in the modern day Harry Potter movies? No, there was that big old spider.

Was that in a case? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hagrid bought a spider and then it ran into the woods and it tried to eat Ron or whatever. That's right. Well, that's disappointing. Yeah. Well, learn your history, Hagrid.

Yeah, great. Yeah. So there we go. So anyway, are you excited for this in any way, shape, or form? Bearing in mind you said you liked the last one I remember at the time when it came out. I kind of like the characters. Yeah.

I feel like they should do more Dumbledore, more Newt Scamander stuff. Do you think they will, though? Yes. Ooh. They should. Okay, here's my question, I guess. I like Queenie. Do you think they're going to learn from the reviews of the past movies

and say, okay, well, people don't really like these characters, but they like the Scamander-Dumbledore team-up, so let's make this one another Scamander-Dumbledore team-up? Or do you think they're like, well, we planned this out years in advance and we're going to do it as we planned it. Well, JK Rowling's doing it. I think they're movie to movie. That's what I think.

That's what I think they're doing. I think there's probably an overall outline, but I think a lot of it is kind of like it's probably reactionary, I'd imagine. Anyway, remember the wizard had killed all those people in that room and then he flew off or whatever. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I remember that. And Dumbledore's got a secret brother or whatever maybe. Oh, my God. Yeah. Anyway. Love, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember that. And Dumbledore's got a secret brother or whatever, maybe. Oh, my God. Yeah. Anyway. Love, Bulldore. Love, Bulldore? Love, Bulldore.

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It keeps it firm and tight. It keeps it crisp and sharp. Wow. What do you think of that? It keeps it Thelma and Louise. It certainly does. You can put it in the glove box of your car and you can drive off a bridge or whatever happens in that movie.

Whatever does happen in that movie. I've seen the Simpsons episode. Yeah. Anyways, Harry's though, they deliver high quality travel friendly shave supplies at a great low price. Just $2 per blade. Why would you try Harry's though, Mason? I'll tell you why.

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It sounds terrible. It sounds awful. Because I also shave in the shower. I don't want a heated battery-operated blade in the shower. Oh, no, it plugs into the mains. Okay, right. Don't worry about it. Handles that look like a prop in a sci-fi movie.

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I suspect maybe they've been doing it for more than 99 years. No, it was up to one point. Oh, okay, right. Yeah, yeah. I could look into it, but... If you could.

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Well, I mean, you've driven your car off a cliff, so you're probably going to need one. You're going to have to. We're talking about Terminator Dark Fate again this week, Mason. We can't get enough of it. We cannot. I mean, the general public can certainly get enough of it. That's right.

It's looking to take a $120 million loss because it cost $185 million. And instead of talking about that Doctor Sleep movie, which is apparently not doing great either, but also is apparently very good. We decided we would contribute to that by not seeing it this week. That's right, exactly. I do want to see it.

I think we should probably talk about it next week, in addition to talking about The Mandalorian and Jedi Fallen Order. Yes, that's right. So I think that's interesting that this has probably sealed the fate of... The dark fate. The dark fate of Terminator as a movie franchise, I would say. Right. We'll probably get a spin-off comic to this like we did.

Predators got a sequel? Did it do as much? It did, that's true. Did Dark Fate do as well or as poorly as Genesis? I think it did as well as Genesis stateside. I think they opened pretty much the same, but I don't think it's doing well in China and internationally, which is kind of...

Because of death. Because of death. Because I think it did... I think Dark... Not Dark Fate. I think Genesis did really well in China. I see. Which I assume is why they made this.

But why do you think Terminator Dark Fate didn't do well? I mean, if you look at the YouTube comments for my Easter egg video, it's get work, go broke. Every second comment is that. Oh, yes. And there's too many women in it. A lot of that. Right.

I think there might be some truth to that, that people don't like the way that that movie is skewed, but I don't think that's... No, I don't think that audience has the... The juice? The juice to do that, really. Again, you could say that about anything that got woke and went broke, like Captain Marvel, which made a billion dollars.

If people are going to see it, there's no get woke, go broke campaign that is going to sabotage that. Because I think general audiences is what makes a movie crack a billion dollars. It's not the people who are really invested in the comics necessarily. Yeah. It's not the people who are really invested in the comics necessarily. Look, I'm going to go to Rob Liefeld, the great comic book creator Rob Liefeld, who said on his Twitter recently that he asked,

I think he asked his son if he's going to see Dark Fate, and he's like, no. And he's like, why not? And apparently because his son was like, well, I've never seen one before've never seen it and rob leifeld comic book legend said we failed our children in not showing them at the very least terminator one and two because those are good they're good yeah and and you need because it's a it's a it's a franchise based around time travel and continuity on some level you need to have an understanding You need to have an understanding. You need to have an understanding of what's happening. There's no, if you go into this movie,

if you go into Dark Fate and you see the fates of various characters that you've never seen before. Okay, spoilers. I mean, if you haven't seen Dark Fate at this point, you probably aren't going to see it. But right in the opening sequence of Terminator Dark Fate, we see after the events of Terminator 2, John Connor is killed by another Terminator.

And that has some kind of impact on you if you really like the first two movies. But if you haven't seen that, you're like, oh no, this kid I've never met. I mean, it's sad that he died, but who cares? But who cares? I mean, I loved him in Crow Wicked Prayer. Absolutely.

Which is maybe the one he was in. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I think it's a combination of that. I think it's because also we've had, there's been three movies in between this one and Terminator two. Yeah. There was,

there was rising machines, salvation and Genesis. And it's kind of like the Holy Trinity, the Holy Trinity, the father, son, and Holy ghost of Terminator. I feel like if this had to have been the only one between now and then,

maybe Terminator would have been, maybe the franchise as a whole would have been more popular because people would have kept revisiting the first two. Yeah, right. On home release or whatever, you know, and when they released it in 3D. Yeah, I think it's just, I think people were just burnt on it in general.

I mean, I probably would have gone out and seen this regardless of this show. I feel like that's the measure of. I mean, I probably would have gone out and seen this regardless of this show. I feel like that's the measure of whether I would, you know, interested in a movie, whether I would have seen it outside of this. But I don't think a lot of other people would have. Would you have? I think I would have.

But again, we grew up in that era, though. Yeah, that's true. That's the difference. I think, and it's interesting as well, that I probably wouldn't, I wouldn't go to see most Arnold Schwarzenegger movies at this point. I think for me it's the combination. You could watch a viral video of him talking about his diet

and his fridge or whatever. Oh, yeah, for sure. I'd absolutely say that. But it's only the combination. Because there's been other Arnold movies in the last decade that have made it to cinemas that I haven't seen or even have made it to streaming. And I'm like, no, it can't be.

Maybe. But it's the combination of the franchise and the star that I haven't seen or even have made it to streaming. And I'm like, no, it can't be. Yeah. Maybe, but it's the combination of the franchise and the star that I'm like, yeah, I would, I'll give this another shot. Yeah. I mean, he's basically,

basically playing Terminator two Terminator again, isn't he? Really? Yeah. He really is. Yeah. I wonder though, cause people have now brought up Conan this week and how they're going to do

that. The final Conan movie where he's cause at the end of Conan one, you see him in the future and he's an old king and whatever. He's wearing red sunglasses. He's wearing red sunglasses. He's in an 80s future. He's on a Vespa.

Yeah. Hover. Oh, Hover Vespa. Okay, right, yeah. Yeah, I do – that's a movie I would like to see, but I wonder whether that would get a chance now because of this. Yeah, good question. Yeah.

Look, it's not our money, so I say let's go for it. And you could do a streaming service or whatever. Yeah, right. Do you want to talk about franchise-killing movies, Mason, bearing in mind that's what we're talking about? Yes. We have no other options, yes. Yes, the movies are just, they really killed things off for good

or at least a fairly long time, let's say. Is that a good enough general? I think we don't have to define it. I think we can say, look, some stuff that killed franchises, some stuff that killed genres. What kills a franchise? What puts it on ice for a bit? What could bring it back?

What could bring it back? We'll vaguely allude to all of these things. We can't wait. We can't wait. We mustn't wait. And neither can you right after this break. There's no break. Oh, because I took a big sip of water, so I can you right after this break. There's no break. Oh, because I took a big sip of water, so I was hoping for a long break. I was hoping for seven minutes of ads because it takes me a long time to drink water.

What about Jaws the Revenge? There was a running joke that they're kind of making him forever. Back to the Future has like two, has like Jaws 19 in it or whatever. Speaking of, we didn't mention this, but we are currently in the Blade Runner future. I don't know if you remember that. It's November 2019. We are in Los Angeles, obviously. It's exciting out there, isn't it? In many ways, aside

from the flying cars, it is probably and the replicants. And the tape decks. It's a pretty accurate representation of now, I think. Is it? Bad weather. What else? I think it's bad weather in the other way, though. Like, it's hot. Yeah, but it's hot and weird.

Have you been in Melbourne the last couple of days? Yeah, it's been- It's Blade Runner weather. Yeah, well, that's true. Yeah, but that's just bloody- It's bloody Melbourne, isn't it? It's bloody Melbourne. If you don't like it, wait three to four days for the weather to get better.

Yeah. Which is what we're getting at the moment. Anyway, you were talking about Jaws. Yeah, Jaws. Have you seen Jaws The Revenge? No, which one is that? Is that three or four? That was four with one with Michael Caine.

Three is 3D. Okay. Jaws The Revenge is the first Jaws movie I saw. It's the one I probably know best. It's the one closest to your heart. I would say so, yeah. It's the one that's pushing out essential information from your brain. Yes, correct.

It's the one where- One day you'll be out there making your kid a sandwich and you'll go to put the knife on the button and you'd be like, I don't know how to do this anymore. And I'm buttering the knife with the bread. Oh, my God. What have I done, Mason? And you're handing your kid a buttery knife.

It's bad for everyone. Because that was the one, I don't know if you've seen it, but that's the one where a shark comes back to get revenge on the Brody family. Brody, is that his family? I don't know. You know, the guy, Roy Schneider. It's Scheider, but yes. It's Rob Schneider.

Oh, hello. We're talking about Roy or Rob Schneider. What's up? I want more sandwiches. Do you want, and please be truthful, do you want a big sandwich? I want a big sandwich. He's done it again. How does he do it?

All right, this time I'm definitely going to catch you, though. Did you catch him last time? No. What are you doing, man? He's got a head. Look how far it is. You can still get. Oh, my God.

Look, he had a really big head start on that one. He legitimately got away from it. No, you are not trying. Your head's not in the game. Get your head out of this game of Jaws the Revenge and Rob Scheider and whatever and just beat your son in a – beat your young son in a running race and throw a sandwich in his face. Like a real dad.

Yeah. Martin Brody was his name from the first one. Now, is this the one where the shark chases the family down the coast? Yes, that's right. Okay, right. It's also the one with Michael Caine where he famously did it for a paycheck and he's like, yeah, I don't care. I'll do it for money.

He was not in any of the previous no movies okay no and it's yeah so the the wife from the first one is back that's kind of like the main okay anyway I remember liking it it's not good though the shark even roars at one point and they kill it with a camera like a flash on a camera like explodes a thing inside I can't remember oh I'm on board now. Yeah. It roars. Like sharks roar. Like sharks roar. But it kind of, it got silly and out of hand, obviously. Three was the 3D one where it got into an aquarium

and Dennis Quaid's in it maybe. Oh, my God. I don't know if you remember. You seen that one? I remember it attacks a lot of people with yo-yos. Yeah. Right at you. It's coming right at you.

It's weird, though, that they've never made another Jaws movie. Don't you think? Is it? Yes. Because like Sharknado. Well It's weird, though, that they've never made another Jaws movie. Don't you think? Is it? Yes. Because, like, Shark movies are still... Well, I mean, look, as a brand. As a brand, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, right.

Like, Shark movies are still popular. That's true. You know, every now and then they'll release a 47 metres down part two or whatever. That's true, yeah. Deep Blue Sea, obviously. The optimum depth for a Shark. The Meg. The Meg came out.

That's true. Do you think movies like The Meg has kind of ruined the idea of a realistic shark? Yeah, maybe. Well, so sharks aren't what they used to be. They were perceived a certain way and they're not seen that way anymore. Well, that's true because back in the day it was like sharks are relentless killers and these days it's like, well, sharks... Get them out of the water! Exactly.

These days it's like, well, if you leave a shark alone in where they live, in their house, they'll not attack you. They'll not really bother you. Shark attacks are... I mean, if you look at the numbers on Hull, they're pretty rare. They should call the movie Jaws 5. Maybe it'll take a bite out of one person and then remember it doesn't like the taste of human meat

and it will leave. I don't know if they did it because he thought there was a seal for a second because it was in a black wetsuit or whatever. I think maybe that's right. And you'd have to, because again, Jaws, great brand. Yeah. You'd have to get Spielberg's blessing. I think he'd be fine with it.

Well, yeah, I guess. But also, again, you'd have to work around the science of sharks aren't really there to kill you. And I think that's how- But this one. Yeah. Maybe you flip it like Terminator 2. The shark is saving you from the mayor or something. Was the mayor the villain of Jaws?

I think he was, actually. I think the voting public were the real villains because they voted him back in after the events of Jaws 1. That's a very good point, yeah. And then the same Jaws thing happened again. Yeah, the exact same Jaws thing happened. God damn. I think...

And also these days people want mega sharks and giant octopuses and sharknados. I think, though also these days people want mega sharks and giant octopuses and sharknados. I think, though, you could strip it back. Oh, absolutely. And you do a realistic, you know, you keep the science more accurate or whatever. Maybe they let the shark go at the end. Who knows?

To kill again, yeah. Yeah, to kill again or whatever it's up to. Yeah. How do you? It is weird because you, you're right, they do make assorted killer animal movies, like sea creature movies. I mean, but there are also like animals

that are just bad versions of that animal. Like, I don't know if you've ever seen The Ghost in the Darkness. It's the movie about the two lions. Is Brad Pitt in it? No, that's Val Kilmer and Michael Douglas. Okay. It's a true-ish story of these two lions that just murdered people.

Yeah, right. And they were just bad dudes. Well, then there you go. There's the perfect thing. Just say Jaws is a bad apple. And they just have to keep reminding the audience that most sharks are fine and they'll take a bite out of you and they'll leave you alone, if anything at all.

Somebody's being consumed at the waist by the shark and they're just blood spraying over their back. Just letting you know that this is actually... This is an indicative of the entirety of the species. I mean, avenge my death, obviously, but just this one. And there's somebody on the shore from like, you know, the sharks, some sort of shark preservation society going like, that is correct.

Look at these sharks. They're doing very well. They're just being regular sharks. And there's sharks in the water Like swimming away from Jaws Being like We don't want to be part of any of this Yeah come on

You're making us all look bad Is Jaws actually referred to as Jaws In any of the movies? I don't believe so Yeah I don't believe so I'm trying to think I'm just seeing if there's the Meg 2 coming up

Because I've heard that it is There's an article from March Which says it's still happening But I'd much rather see A Jaws A Jaws than a Meg. What about a Jaws? Would you like a sequel? It would be weird.

Unless it's like a family line of horrible sharks. But then again, they keep killing them. But they're getting out there with their weird corkscrew dicks making more sharks. Yeah, that's true, yeah. Some sharks have that, don't they? All right, let's have a weird genetic. See, that's the thing, but I guess also if you want to say that Jaws is the bad apple,

you have to introduce some sort of genetic thing of like, well, genetically he's an offshoot. You could make it territorial. You could go into their home and it's like, well, you shouldn't be in Jaws' house rummaging through his drawers. That's true. And his drawers. Yeah.

Stay away from his sock drawer. It's got all these corkscrew-shaped condoms in there. Oh, no. Uh-oh, he's back. How many sandwiches is that now? How many have you had? How many sandwiches could the young man eat? You're still eating a sandwich right now.

What would you like? I want more sandwiches. Okay, one more. I think this one is going to prove to your undoing, young man. I feel like... He's already off. He's already off. He's already taken off. Yeah, this one is going to end in undoing, young man. I feel like... He's already off. He's already taken off. Yeah, this one is going to end in tears.

This is my prediction. I didn't get him. He had a really good head start on that one. Come on. Come on. He was full of sandwich. He had so much sandwich. I 100% the next time he's going to come in crying. I guarantee you. He's just doing this for the fame and attention.

I think he's doing it for the chase He really likes to be chased Anyway I was going to say Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 3 I mean it did come back The one where they went to Japan Yes but it did come back Like there was an animated sequel

Which is loosely tied to the first three It was rebooted It's getting rebooted again But that You talked about this How about you? Oh my goodness You talked about this recently How about you? Oh, my goodness. You talked about this recently on Do Go On.

That's true, I did. That is a, I feel like at this point, the Ninja Turtles exist and they keep making new ones because it's a brand and it's a property more than anything. Like there's, because. It's not a phenomenon anymore. No, and it's not a phenomenon. And the original creators, Eastman and Laird,

they sold their interest in it 10 years ago. Which I didn't know. I learned that from you. Eastman sold his to Laird in 2000, and then Laird sold it all to Viacom, who owned Nickelodeon, in 2009. Yes. So now it's just like it's a major corporation's property. And I assume at this point they just go,

well, last time it made this amount of money and we'll project it to make this amount of money this time so it's time for a new TV series or movie or whatever. And they're just going to keep doing that until the cost of production is more than the profit they make from it, at which point they'll stop doing it until the profit and loss predictor says that maybe there's time for a resurgence. That's right, yeah.

They'll chart trends and they'll be like, well, it's time for a 90s resurgence of what, or like a- Are we in that already? Maybe. I have no idea. I don't know. I feel like we're in every era of resurgence all the time.

Have you noticed that? Independence Day resurgence. Except for that one. Okay, right. Speaking of that, I was going to bring it up, but this week, Roland Emmerich,

director of Resurgence, blamed Will Smith for the tanking of Independence Day Resurgence. Because he had to change the script. Yeah, so apparently, yeah, so apparently Will Smith was...

Speaking of franchise killers. Yeah, when he was in, apparently the script was incredible. It was a great script and a great movie. Do not believe that. I don't believe that at all either. And then when Will Smith dropped out, despite it being a great script and a great movie do you not believe i don't believe that at all either and then when will smith dropped out despite it being a great

script for an incredible movie then they had to rewrite it and apparently in rewriting it they had to turn it into half a movie and half a uh a teaser for a second movie yes that's what they had to do apparently they're like well we could put in more plots or we could just put in teasers for going out there and kicking alien ass that's a dead franchise oh my god that's so dead yeah didn't they should have i i mean i think that movie definitely would have benefited from will smith from the box office at least yeah right but other than that nobody i would i guarantee you the reason he dropped out is because the script was as it was. I don't doubt it. Not in the sense that, I mean, they just replaced Will Smith with Will Smith's son in the movie,

but I think he probably looked at the movie and went, there's no plot in this, it's just teaser for the next one, and I don't want to commit to another one. Yeah, another one, yeah, exactly. And they were like, okay, well. Because Roland Emmerich hasn't made a good movie. Full stop. Yeah, I'm trying to think like, okay, well. Because Roland Emmerich hasn't made a good movie. Full stop. Yeah, I'm trying to think. He has, right?

Okay. Midway. Warning. If you learn, you're Googling it now, but if you learn what movies Roland Emmerich has made, you will lose the ability to make a sandwich. This is it. This is your tipping point.

Arguably, he has made movies that a lot of people have loved. I just don't like his movies. Actually, you know what? The Patriot is kind of like a dumb, fun, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb-ass movie for dumb-asses. So good? Yeah. All right.

Universal Soldier. There you go. People like that. I don't really remember it. Anyway, I think the Ninja Turtles also that third one it was just like

let's just get one out before this whole thing falls down yeah right because it kind of was at that point wasn't it because that was the age when I was also growing out

of Ninja Turtles I didn't see that one at the movies neither did I yeah I've never seen it really yeah

it's atrocious it's really bad the only good thing is that Casey Jones is back the same Elias Cotillet. Cotillet, yeah. Cotillet, yeah, is back.

Okay. And he's good because, you know, he is. What about this one? I don't know if this one even counts as a – because it's just one movie. I'm counting it. I don't know what it is. John Carter of Mars. Yeah, right.

It was made for $250 million. It was kind of poised to be this Avatar style. There we go. See, that's what I'm talking about. I feel like anything by your Disney's, is like we're going to push this as if there's going to be 10 movies. Yeah. And why did it fail? Because it's an old-timey thing that nobody cares about?

Yes. They actually decided not to call it, I think they just called it John Carter. I remember early reports calling it just John Carter. Because they researched. Just John Carter. Yeah. Well, they researched of Mars. Because they researched. Just John Carter. Yeah.

Well, they researched Of Mars. Because I remember seeing an interview with the director, who's Andrew Stanton, who did a lot of great stuff over at Pixar. Uh-huh. And they were like, Of Mars does not play. People don't see movies with Mars in the title. Interesting. So it's just changed to John Carter, which tells you nothing.

Look, I think we should spitball what subtitles would have played. Clickbaity titles. I would have called it John Carter Easter eggs, and people would have been like, well, I haven't seen John Carter, but, man, if it's going to tell me what all the Easter eggs are in John Carter, I'm fired up about it. Well, it was 2012, so I would have called it John Carter of Gangnam Style. That would have been great. Oh, imagine all the red dust they'd be kicking up doing Gangnam Style on Mars.

So I was living up north, so I didn't see this at the time. I've seen half of it since then, and it's fine. You were in the bloody, I was going to say you were in the red centre, but you weren't. I wasn't. I was in a more terrible place up north. But it's fine. But I never finished it because I just went, this is fine.

Incredible. And I'm not really interested in it. I would love to, did you see it on Netflix, I assume? I don't know. I would love to see. I probably didn't steal it. I can't imagine I would have come out of my way. I would love to see the Netflix metrics or all the streaming metrics

for when people stop watching a movie because it's got to be out there fascinating oh they definitely have that somebody has that information yeah it could leak to us a bunch of movies yeah and at what point people stop watching them like what's the record what's the record is there like a three minute movie out there that people watch the first three minutes ago oh no not for me like a bruce will they rank they've got a show they've got a show at the christmas party i reckon at the netflix christmas party they're probably laughing they laugh yeah yeah yeah i think maybe what they should start doing is they're putting up they just start automatically playing the next thing just like at the point where people are losing interest they'll be like you probably don't want to watch the rest of this and people like i don't want to watch the rest of

this oh just the just the countdown time yeah just, do you want to go to the next thing? And most people will be like, yeah, why not? Yeah, sure. Why not? Yeah, so John Carter was going to be a franchise and was not a franchise. It only made $284 million, which is not good for a movie like that. So what about this one?

I'm ready. I mean, again, it's back, but Star Trek Nemesis. Yeah, that's the thing. I mean, and there was star trek at the time yeah enterprise was still on at that time is that right yeah i i had i had the thought earlier in the week was there a point where star wars was on the way out yes i mean it was always kind of propped up by merch yeah because i sort of remember when the the you know the the i guess the thrawn trilogy or like the the the sequel the early 90s the sequel novels when they came out like the splinter what was

it called that was in the 80s that was the um but the proper you're talking about the proper legend stuff yeah it started like 1991 timothy zahn novels i remember thinking oh wow star wars that's a novelty. Yeah, right. Did you read them when you were pretty young then? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, well, that was Star Wars. Heir to the Empire.

Yeah. Dark Force Rising. The Last Command. I remember them. And that's pushed the last piece of real knowledge out of my head. So I think that was, yeah, Star Wars until the kind of prequels came back. I would say the re-release. I would say it was pretty dead after Return of the Jedi. It wasn't until the kind of prequels came back.

I would say the re-release. I would say it was pretty dead after Return of the Jedi. But I think also there was a time period briefly where Star Trek 2009 was more popular than Star Wars and could have been a bigger franchise. Yeah, maybe, yeah. I think new Star Wars might have even hurt new Star Trek because Abrams left. Into Darkness wasn't great. Yeah, that's true. And then all of a sudden people are – and then those movies aren't making money anymore and kind of Star Wars is your big't great. Yeah, that's true. And then all of a sudden people are,

and then those movies aren't making money anymore and kind of Star Wars is your big space franchise for the moment. Yeah. Despite two of those three movies, the new one's been quite good. Yeah. Especially the last one. The last one was good. Well, you heard, because they're not doing, they couldn't get Chris Pine and Chris Hemsworth to agree to a contract thing

because they were going to do a new one. Oh, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Father and son situation. I was going to say, I think I've said before, they should just throw money at those guys to make it happen. But that's no guarantee of anything these days, is it? No, I mean, you know, Men in Black International.

Exactly. Like Men in Crap films and a woman. Also, yep, 2019. Yeah. I mean, I think that would be a good direction for that series but star trek nemesis was it didn't seem to make anybody happy no that's true yeah it's kind of that series was done by that point it had been next generation for quite a while and the picard and the crew in that don't really seem to reflect the series as much would you agree

you know what i think I'm seeing here? What's emerging is a potential actor who is a franchise killer and that is Brent Spiner, obviously. He killed Nemesis and he killed Independence Day. John Carter of Mars, he's an extra. He's one of those weird aliens. Sometimes they just hire him to lurk in the background and kill a franchise.

That's right, yeah. It's like the Zapruder film. You can see him in the background. Oh, my God, is he in the Zapruder film? Yeah. Oh, no. Yeah, well, maybe it is that. But I think it just...

Back and to the left, it's Data. It's Data. Data's there. They went too action-heavy, right, and kind of went away from the... Yeah, well, I mean, that's the dilemma for your Star Treks, I think, and especially Next Generation, which I feel was more, it was always meant to be more cerebral and less photon torpedoes and phases. We can't use a photon torpedo.

This is an emerging civilization. Yeah. Riker. And then he sits in a chair, weirdly. Yeah. I've seen him do that. I've seen him do it. Apparently it's a back issue.

Mr. Data. Logan. Logan. Troy. I know Star Trek. Track. Sorry. it's a back issue mr data so logan logan troy i know star trek track sorry um i i think it was they tried to appeal to your action hero kind of sci-fi movies which and and people i think it was too far into the series that if you're not on board you're not going to see star trek nemesis exactly and if you are an action movie aficionado you're probably not in like the i don't recall the action being particularly great no but also it's not like you know it's not like karate and and and cool gunfights yes it's double-handed punches and phases yeah exactly and that's the thing because patrick stewart overhand punch yeah well yeah patrick stewart's great but would people don't go to a movie to see Patrick Stewart do a karate kick.

I would, though. Yeah, I mean, I would. If it was guaranteed. Exactly. People aren't going and expecting that, but if there was one guaranteed, if it's like Patrick Stewart is going to execute the perfect karate kick, I would watch that movie.

I would pay full price for that movie. Is he going to kick a can off someone's head? Yeah. No, he's going to do that water bottle challenge. Oh, very good. He kicks the lid off the water bottle. And then all these bros run in. They're like, yeah.

It's the crew. Yeah. That's you. Yeah. Anyway, it's back now anyway, isn't it? Do you think they were ever going to do a Speed 3? Father Ted did a Speed 3. Okay.

But do you think the idea was to keep making Speed movies? With the different vehicles? Yeah, and different Speed people. Just with Sandra Bullock? I guess. Well, Keanu Reeves was asked to do two, but he decided not to, so they got that other guy. Side note, congratulations on Keanu Reeves having an age-appropriate girlfriend.

Yeah, it's phenomenal. Yeah. Well done, Keanu Reeves. Look, I think there's been a lot of chatter on that on the internet this week, but I think that's primarily, it's mostly relief, I think. Like if he'd emerge and he's like, his girlfriend's 23, he'd be like, oh, right, okay. But I think it's like, oh, he is all right after all.

Yeah, for now. What are we talking about? Speed 2. Speed 2. I think I've seen most or some of it. I think they even get back the guy Who he steals the sports car from And he's got a boat in the new one Who's the lead of Speed 2 again?

Oh, Jason Patrick? That's right, Jason Patrick and Willem Dafoe's the villain And it cost a lot of money because Well, they had to crash a boat It cost $110 million That was a lot of money back in the day It made $164 And it's got a 4% rating on Rotten Tomatoes.

Oh no. Also, if you look at the posters, it's either- That's $25 million per percent. It really is. If you look at all the posters, they're either

Sandra Bullock heavy or the other guy who's in it. What's his name? Or boat heavy. Or boat heavy. Jason Patrick. Jason Patrick is like,

you see him side on and it could be anybody. Oh yeah, right, right, right. But people were wise to speed too by that point. Also,

I feel like that was the era when action sequels weren't good. Were they mostly still not now, but yeah, it was kind of a joke to be like speed tube at a boat. Yeah. That sounds great. I also feel like maybe back in that era, uh,

um, an action movie like that was intended to be standalone. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. I mean, there were a lot of Steven Seagal movies or whatever. Do you mean as in Just Speed or Just Speed 2?

I mean, Just Speed. Yeah. Like it was kind of... Oh, no. What's happened? I love Mom. I love Mom. This is outrageous.

This is outrageous. Are you just doing this for the chase? How is your tummy, young man? How is it? I'm going to have to cut some of these out, right? No. What is this, like five or six? It might be five or six, yeah.

What are we talking about? Speed. Speed, yeah. I didn't catch him. Oh my God. Look, I'll keep doing it until I catch it. Look, we've got all these

cables here as well. You should lasso him. That's a good point, yeah. I don't know. John de Bont directed it. Did he do the first one? Maybe. Oh, that's what we're talking about.

Yeah, look, I think that, again, at that point, yeah, a movie like Speed was intended to be a standalone like it had a big concept and like a bunch of stuff that really couldn't have been replicated in a sequel kind of yeah absolutely and it's like well we got a standalone movie we really enjoyed and they like it this these days everything is designed to have a backdoor sequel built into it somehow that's's true, yeah. But I think then they were just, and maybe I'm wrong, maybe they were like, yeah, sequels are the way to go. Yes.

But again, there were a million, but I think maybe back in the day also, movies were a vehicle for a star, like talking about Steven Seagal. Like there were a bunch of, like there were a hundred Steven Seagal movies, and they were all quite similar, but they were all different ideas. Yes. He was always a different kind of cop on the loose, you know what I mean? Yeah, absolutely. Except for the one where he's a chef or whatever.

Under Siege, yes. Yes. Which you may have mentioned. Did you mention it? No, but I have now. Under Siege. Good, because we'll get emails. Yeah.

Under Siege. Under Siege. Yeah, because it wasn't also- Under Siege 2. Cruise control. I feel like- Train control. So it says here that hundreds of sequels are submitted for Speed 2.

I don't know why I'm talking about Speed 2. Speed 2 Speed 2. I don't know why I'm talking about Speed 2. Speed 2. But. I don't know why you're talking about Speed 2. Speed 2. Yeah, but I feel like Speed 2. Did they just list vehicles? They must have.

Because it needs to speed, doesn't it? Yeah. Yeah. So I feel like if. Speed 2, Tandem Bike. So I feel like Speed was made Because it was Like a die hard

I think it was a die hard Script originally And this one They just went Let's just What can we do For the second one It's like we need ideas

We need We got a hot property So that probably Didn't help either So I guess we could talk About comic book franchises Like your Batman and Robins Superman 4

Your Amazing Spider-Man 2 And the reason I bring Those up specifically Is because They all led to a reboot of sorts. I mean, Superman Returns is technically a sequel. Superman 5. But also that Superman Returns also picks up after 2 and not 4.

That is true, yeah. So they dark-fated it, as it were. Which is a winning formula up until now, so I don't know what they were thinking. Well, George Clooney famously said, I think, of Batman and robin i think we killed the franchise i don't think you can blame clooney for that no i mean he's there doing it and he's under the mask 90 of the time exactly so weird head wobble yeah you know when it's him he's doing the bad credit card killed that movie yeah but i also think that he joel schumacher made the movie that warner brothers wanted him

to make yeah i don't think he's solely responsible for the death of that. Warner Brothers killed that just as much as anybody else did. Yeah, right. Uh-huh. I mean, they could have always stepped in and been like, actually, we've changed their minds. When it's serious. Yeah. And you're doing silly things.

We don't approve of that framework. But I 100% think that somebody at Warner Brothers was like, I love the 60s TV series and I want it to be like that again. Yeah. And that killed it. Yeah. I don't disagree with that. And also I have plenty of people to shove the blame onto. Yes. Specifically Schumacher and Clooney.

I think Batman and Robin and Superman 4 are more similar in the way that they kind of got silly and were killed off. But The Amazing Spider-Man 2 is just an example of sequel bait that just. Yeah. Because I don't even remember hating. I've only seen it once, but I don't even. We've done an episode on it. I don't even remember hating. I've only seen it once, but I don't even, we've done an episode on it. I don't remember hating it, but it's like going, like thinking back about it further over the years and seeing clips.

It's really one of those things where it's like, this is, this is not anything, not anything at all. This is just a series of trailers for the next thing that didn't end up happening. But what a, what a, what a bright future. I know. Speaking of bright futures, I wanted to pose this question to you. Yes.

What do you think would have happened to the X-Men after Dark Phoenix if it wasn't going back to Disney? What do you think their next move would have been? I mean, a sequel of like a trilogy of Dark Phoenix movies even? Well, New Mutants would have gone to run, right? That would have been released. I guess it would be out. I guess. I mean, yeah, probably. Yeah.

But that doesn't tie into Dark Phoenix. Would Dark Phoenix have done better if people didn't know that Marvel was going to get the Mutants? I don't think most people even know that. I guess that's probably true, yeah. Again, general audience. I don't care, yeah.

But also because they didn't have any they couldn't hang it on Patrick Stewart doing a karate kick obvious for obvious reasons yes that's true Hugh Jackman wasn't in it

yep you know what I mean there's no Halle Berry they've run out of stuff for Quicksilver to do that's right did they break his legs in this one

maybe yeah great stuff yeah so I do you think this would have been a Dark Phoenix trilogy maybe they would have slowly a Dark Phoenix trilogy maybe? They would have slowly built to it.

Oh, surely not. Surely not. Do you mean pre-production of this? Do you think maybe they would have planned it out as three movies? Because I know there were a lot of reshoots and the ending is just like, I guess Jean survived in space or something. Yeah, right. You see her up in the sky at the end or whatever.

She's a star or a flock of birds. Whatever happens there. She became the band of flock of seagulls is what happened there. And I wonder if, like, would they have changed any of that Marvel stuff to make it different from the Skrulls and the ending of Captain Marvel? Because they reshot it because apparently the original ending was she flies into space and shoots all the spaceships. Yeah.

They probably would have changed that anyway, right? Yeah. I don't know. that anyway, right? Yeah. I don't know. I just feel like maybe they wouldn't have made this particular movie if they didn't know that this was going to happen. Right. Yeah. I think the problem with these X-Men-

I don't think they would have. I don't think they would have. I think this is all the juice they had left in the tank. Well, that's what I was going to say. It feels like to me. Also, because I think these movies, they just take major storylines from the comics and they just do that for the most part. And then they don't have anything left because they've done pretty much

every major X-Men. Would they have tapped into the newer stuff? Zorn. Zorn. Krakoa. Yes, exactly. Maybe. And that would have been a better direction.

But, again, I think this franchise was really sort of moored in the past in the sense that like, okay, well, we've got to do bloody start running now. What's up? I need sandwiches. Have you finished your sandwiches? All right, I'll chase you one time. Okay.

I knew it. It was all a pretense. I'm going to catch up. You just had a little running race. Oh, yeah. The pretense was destroyed. It didn't watch sandwiches at you. We just had a little running race. Oh, yeah. The pretense was destroyed. It didn't want sandwiches at all. No, it was all running races.

Did you defeat him? I did one of the times, but I think he didn't want me to defeat him the other times. So, you know. Are you happy? Yeah. What have we got here? So, yeah, maybe they would have just rebooted.

Maybe they would have had to. Yeah. Because, again, it's that have just rebooted. Maybe they would have had to. Yeah. Because, again, it's that Maud in the past thing, leather suits, and you're tied to this weird continuity that they sort of adhere to. Yeah. And it was all just kind of like Chris Claremont era kind of X-Men, you know, like X-Men 2 was just a God Loves Man kills and, you know, the Weapon X and all this sort of stuff.

And it didn't feel like there was any room, especially if you're going to, you know, recast or remove a lot of the classic characters. If you're going to take out Wolverine or what have you, then I don't know. I feel like it was running on empty for a few years. I don't disagree with that. Do you think the Alien franchise was doing that with Alien Resurrection?

Yes. Yes? I mean, it's still technically there. Turns out a lot of people like Alien 3. Yeah, it's got a lot of supporters, but I say you should watch it after you watch Alien 2. Okay, yeah, right. Because they're not – I can see there's some stuff in it

that you could be like, This is amazing that it's anything You know it's David Fincher And it was changed so much And there's different versions of it Where the alien is a dog And the other one's an ox Like it's a fucking disaster that movie Yeah yeah right

Like it's amazing it's coherent at all But it's nowhere near as good as the first two Like it's not even close And Alien Resurrection is all Basketball and CGI swimming zips I guess what killed the Alien franchise is and Alien Resurrection is all basketball and CGI swimming zips. I guess what killed the Alien franchise is... Winona Ryder?

Yeah, Winona Ryder, but also Sigourney Weaver not committing either way to being in it. Yeah. Although, look, I don't think it's Sigourney Weaver's fault. It's more that they went, okay, the only thing holding together Alien as a concept is Ripley yeah and therefore we must put ripley in every movie that was proven untrue by prometheus exactly the predator they're perfect movies so many perfect four perfect movies that well i don't know i i but i i feel like this you know the concept of it can survive. It's capable of surviving without the idea of Ripley being the only person

who can defeat them in any way. I mean, it does in other medias, doesn't it? Yeah. So do you think maybe they should have leaned away from that earlier then? Yes. I think they should have made that weird Hicks Bishop sequel. They've made a comic of it recently. Yeah, so the script is mostly like Ripley light because she's still in cryo or whatever Hicks Bishop sequel that there's, they've made a comic of it recently. Yeah.

So the script is mostly like Ripley light and it's cause she's still in cryo or whatever. And the alien virus is mutated or whatever. We still might be getting that alien sequel, you know, with Hicks, old Hicks and Ripley. It's,

it's, it's dark fate. They're doing, they're doing the Superman. You've named a lot of bad things in that sense there. I hope this wasn't in the pitch meeting. Look, it's going to be Terminator Dark Fate. It's going to be Dark Phoenix.

It's going to be Superman Returns. We're getting bloody the name of the director. Bryan Singer. We're getting Bryan Singer. Yeah, but I do wonder, though, off the back of Dark Fate, whether there's even less of a chance they're going to be doing the Alien sequel with Sigourney Weaver. But I still think, though, that's got more juice than New Terminator did.

But then again, maybe it doesn't. Who knows? Okay, here's my question then. Have we reached a point where all the old franchises and all the old IP is done? It's maybe. Have they all been stretched to the point where we can't stretch it no more? Maybe it's the point because people who like that stuff, who are now people our age, for the most part,

I was going to say dead or parents or busy or working full time, so they're not going to see all this stuff. Don't have to see them as part of a podcast, yeah. Are you saying that adults like us now have proper adult concerns? That's exactly what I'm saying. Oh, no. Because that happens every generation. I feel like that's just like the Brady Bunch.

It's like, who the fuck is this for? Like the new movie. Like when I was a kid. Like they're trying to, they're forcing the nostalgia of the previous generation onto the next generation. And I feel like that that's probably what's happening with this generation. We're probably doing the same thing to the next generation. And they're like, we don't give a fuck. We've got our own stuff.

You know, whatever that is. Angry birds. Angry birds. That's right. But you know what I mean though? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

You might be right. Here's an example of that. I wanted, I wanted to end on this, but we don't have to. Why do you think Robocop three killed Robocop? I mean, it's bad.

Yeah. The one where he fights Japanese robots and he can, and he flies at the end. I think that we'll see. Also, I know it came back in a TV show and also in a reboot. Oh, my God, so many bad TV shows. And they're doing another one still probably.

Yeah, yeah, for sure. Well, my feeling would be, like, on paper, I would say it's because they turned it into a PG. Like, they decided to make it more kid-friendly and that's why he has a jet pack and that's why he can take his arm off and put a gun on there because it's like novelty toy rad based stuff it's rad it's all rad yeah and he's you know they gave him some you know cool robot opponents and what have you

that's what i've always thought but i think it's also entirely possible that that concept only had a couple of good movies in it yeah and again that robocop, I think, is kind of one of the quintessential movies, I think sci-fi or fantasy movies from that era that, like Speed, had a definitive beginning, middle and end and was meant to be a self-contained story and not part of a franchise. Yes. I always think about Highlander, the first one of those.

That movie ends with the entire goal of that in the entire universe yeah the thousands of years like that's it coalesces to this one point where it's like okay well the entire goal of all these people was to win this competition and gain this amazing power and he decides to you know give it all away in a sense and then it after and that's the end of the story yeah and then after that they went could we contrive another way let's make let's say aliens did it let's say aliens made this happen and we'll bring in some more aliens like that's and i feel like it's the same with robocop is it's about a guy who was killed in the line of duty and he becomes this unfeeling arm of the state kind of

all the of a corporation kind of thing yeah and then by the end he definitively gets like he he returns like at the end the guy's like what's your name and he's like murphy and he become like you know he yeah he gets once he gets all his you know system rebooted and wiped or whatever and he defeats the bad guys he's he isn't this unfeeling cold machine he's just alex murphy as he was yes in that movie and he but he's in a robot shell kind of thing and i think the two sequels were like well let's bring it back further and let's not explore what it'd be like to be a regular dude in this situation be like bring him back to being the unfeeling robocop guy yeah right and that didn't work either yeah so how did they end up bringing him back to like unfeeling robot god did they just wind it back a bit in In two, he gets focus grouped and they're like,

well, we don't really like the public. So I guess there's still some ideas in that. Yeah, there were some ideas and basically so they give him, in addition to having, he has four prime directives originally, they give him like a hundred more and he becomes this. He can't do anything. And then he wipes the slate clean again at the end. And then in three, I can't remember.

He flies. In three, it's not even him, so it doesn't matter. Oh, yeah, that's true. It's not Peter Welles, so I don't care. There you go. I think that's a good one. I mean, there are more stuff, obviously. If you have more stuff, let us know.

Obviously. If you're out there and you have some insight into what kills a franchise, let us know because I'd be excited to hear about that. We'll read some letters. You know we'll read some letters. But before we've got to read some letters, we've got a What We Reading. What We Gonna Read. Things that we're reading.

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What We Reading is What We Gonna Read when we talk about what we're reading. Well, we're both up to date, but by the time this comes out, I think we'll be behind. We're both three episodes into Watchmen. Yeah. So we want to do Watchmen Watch? We can do Watchmen Watch.

Because we can't do Doomsday Clock Watch. December 18th. Looked into it. It's when the next one's out. Let's talk about Watchmen a little bit. Okay. Spoilers or non-spoilers? Spoilers, I think.

There's always time codes. There is. You can always skip. What are you at? What do you think? Is it good? Look, we have many... Is it good is a good question.

It's certainly interesting. You know what I'm doing, which I think is helping with this series for me? I'm not reading any fan theories. Okay, right. At all. Because I was about to hit you with a bunch of fan theories. Don't hit me with nothing.

Okay, I've got one that I actually saw on Twitter today. Okay, what is it? This is the only one that I have, other than my own thinkings of things. Okay. No, don't leave yourself alone with your own thinkings of things. That's true. That'll be a disaster. It's that the people that Ozymandias has cloned is the original John and his wife.

Oh, the original John Osterman. The original Dr. Manhattan. Hence the watchmakers and them doing the play. Interesting. And that's why we see one of them turned into Dr. Manhattan in that play. Yeah. See his dong. You see his dong.

So anyway, what do you think of that theory? That's interesting. You can hit me with some fan theories. Well, I don't know about fan theories, but a lot of people have suggested that uh angela's grandfather the one in the wheelchair is hood of justice oh okay yeah sure which i i mean there's there's certainly merit to that and you know given that this is a lindelof production yeah the fact that he's so definitively white in the the remake like the the american hero story would suggest to me that he isn't

yeah that would point to that. Anything in this series, which definitively points to something I would suggest the opposite is true. Like the fact that everybody thinks that Dr. Manhattan is on Mars and they've built all these. Well, didn't they see, don't you actually see? Yeah.

But I mean, that could be old footage or CGI footage. Yeah. I mean, they made it for the TV series. That's true. They did. They manufactured it.

But the fact that there are all these kind of booths slash shrines to him where you go in and you tell Dr. Manhattan your secrets and they send him off to Mars. But isn't it also because the last one she actually looks like she did get through to him? Maybe. My feeling is that if he is on Mars, he's also on Earth at the same time.

Well, that's a really good point because he can be anywhere. And there's a thing in the series where people are like, well, Dr. Manhattan can't look like regular people, so he's obviously not on Earth. They do say that a lot, don't they? He's definitely on Earth as a regular person. But which person? I don't know.

I don't know. Yeah. So you know how the, let's say, the grandfather, I was going to say Hooded Justice. Yeah. Let's say the grandfather, whatever his name is. You know the bit where the big magnet picks him up in the car? Do you think that's another night owl machine?

Yeah, maybe. Because I thought that the night owl machine that the cop had, this must sound... Was a standard issue of cops. Standard issue. And you said it was the original. I feel it's the original. But I still don't know.

Okay, right. Look, it would not surprise me if there is like a group of heroes continuing to operate behind the scenes yes because you know in this in the most recent one that we've seen episode three there is kind of a batman-esque character i like that a lot who gets thumped by by laurie blake that was really great that was very good um really good introduction of laurie blake i think so too yeah really interesting the progression of that character yeah yeah yeah and we i do you think we're going to get any more old school i was going to say just to finish my thought about hood of justice it's that if i

remember correctly in the comic books at one point he does seem to imply that hitler had some good ideas so i also wonder if maybe that's it is somebody else like their grandfather because why would he i don't know but what thoughts you know? You know what I mean? People think different things. About trains running on time, maybe. Yeah, but people can think a variety of different things. That's true. Despite who they are. My thought about Ozymandias was that some or all of his environment isn't real.

Yes. Whether he be in a coma or... Because I wonder, because cloning is an option option because obviously he had some genetic engineering skills back in the day because and all the clones and all the clones he has well but that is true but also oh you mean if that old yeah i guess my question is what elements of the past are we going to bring in to this version and cloning is quite advanced yes maybe it's a dr Dr. Manhattan-esque prison. Yeah, maybe. Also, people have suggested that the Game Warden who we see

might be the real Ozymandias. This Ozymandias is a clone. My out-of-left-field theory is, and it probably will amount to nothing because nobody seems to remember it anymore, is that he is in some sort of mindscape prison. Because in the original Watchmen, in the comic book, is that he's in some sort of mindscape prison. Yeah. Because in the original Watchmen, in the comic book, nobody has any superpowers except for Dr. Manhattan

and except a number of times it's mentioned there are some psychics in the world. Yeah. And it's never very clear as to whether they're real psychics or if they're like tarot card psychics. But I wonder if that's an element they might bring back. And it's like somebody who was, when the big squid drops and kills everybody,

it also mentions that all these psychics got horribly mentally scarred. During the BSD. Yeah, when the big squid drop. And I'm, Operation Big Squid Drop. There's a Disney movie for you to put on Disney+. But I also wonder if it's like maybe it's somebody who was horrifically psychologically scarred back in the day

and is back for revenge. Oh, okay, yeah, yeah. But that's kind of like a niche. It's kind of a deep cut. Yeah. So I don't know. Interesting. Or maybe it's somebody who was like a tarot card psychic

and got hit with a big squid and then gained weird powers. What do you think the squids are, the little squids? Do you think that's a government thing? Or do you think it's just residual Ozymandias? Yeah, I don't know. Maybe it's like maybe the squid, the creation of the squid, maybe he created it and had like billions of eggs in it and then dropping it on the city, they went into the atmosphere

and they just sort of, you know, they're like those little creatures that can survive sub-zero temperatures and what have you. Maybe there's just like a billion of them in the atmosphere and they've been just dropping on the earth for 20 years. Yeah. Entirely possible. Yes. We'll come back to Watchmen Watch though, won't we?

We'll come back to Watchmen Watch. Do you have any other thoughts? Probably not. I watched The King on Netflix. What's The King? It's by David Michaud, who's an Australian director. You might know him. He did Animal Kingdom.

Yes. It's got Joel Edgerton is in it. I've heard of Joel Edgerton. And it's also got- Australia's Own. Yeah, Australia's Own. It's also got Timothy Charlemagne. When you say the king, you mean Burt Newton, obviously.

That's what I mean. Australia's king of comedy from the 70s or whatever. Was he the king? Who was the king? The other guy was the king. Oh, Don Lane? No, not Don Lane. The other guy was the king. Graham Kennedy was the king? Who was the king? The other guy was the king Oh Don Don Lane? No not Don Lane The other guy was the king

Graham Kennedy Oh Graham Kennedy was the king That's right Okay Don Lane wasn't the king? Yeah That's pushed out some more information Out of my brain

Yes really Remembering who the king of comedy was In Australia It's based upon a Shakespeare play But it's Sort of historically Some of it is Anyway

It's really good. Sounds really good. I don't know. Do you like medieval stuff? If you're like a fan of like Braveheart, for example. Yes. And then this will be right up your alley. Nice.

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Well, they might be terrible, but they also might be, maybe he's just on trend. Maybe it's like burgundy drapes are very in. Yeah, right. And the first drapes he sold were like perfect. I don't know. Yeah, maybe. I'd also imagine he can assign like a numerical value to different shades

so he knows what colors is. Probably. I assume. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you know what? It doesn't matter because it's done. Maybe he had. And that guy died.

Yeah, it's true. Maybe he had. And that guy died. Yeah, that's true. Maybe he had like an assistant who he then killed. Well, yeah, he could have gone in and said, I'm colorblind. But I want to start a drapery business. Yeah, maybe. How does a Terminator get into drapes? He was probably wrapping a body in some drapes. And they're like, hey, he probably had to kill somebody and then he got away in a drapery truck.

And they're like, are these your drapes? And he's like, yes, these are had to kill somebody and then he got away in a drapery truck. And they're like, are these your drapes? And he's like, yes, these are my drapes. These are my drapes. I like the line in there where he's like, and I'm very funny. Yeah, that's right. Oh, I enjoyed when he's instructing somebody on how they shouldn't do polka dots or whatever. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I said, don't do it. That was really funny. It's a solid movie. I don't think they overdid the humour with him. Like they did in the last one as much. Yeah. Yeah. It has been pointed out.

We didn't mention it during the podcast. Sure. But it's important to note they did explain what an EMP does. Oh, my God. Boy, did they. Yeah. Yeah, I don't like that ever. That era's over.

I should have given it. We're talking about trends that are over franchises that are dead. Explain what an EMP is. I forgot about that. Boo and boo. Oh, my God. This is a letter from Corey Francis. Hi, Corey.

I read somewhere that Hawaiian... This is... Okay, this subject line says the most important question you've ever been asked. We'll say. I read somewhere that Hawaiian pizza is the most popular pizza in Australia. Wow. I myself am a recent convert to the sweet and salty way

and was curious about the thoughts of podcasting the most authoritative duo on this. We'll ask Tofop. Sure. But since they're not here, do you guys like a Hawaiian pizza? What is the best pizza toppings in general? I hate Hawaiian pizza.

I am a huge fan of Hawaiian pizza. You would be. Because you're a freak. I don't want the fancy, schmancy, wood-fired, like real shade. You want a frozen one. Yeah, not a frozen one. You want something in between that. You want a Domino's.

You want to get a dirty Aussie pizza joint. Yeah, right. And you get a Hawaiian pizza. That's how you eat a Hawaiian pizza. If I want a fancy pizza, I'll get a fancy one with pear and speck or something like that. I love it. I only like fruits on my pizza, Mason. Of course you do.

But you hate it. You're like a meat lovers, don't you? I like an Aussie pizza. For Americans who don't know, it's usually just ham and cheese with an egg in it. Crack a fried egg on the top of it. Crack it in, mate. I like a meat lovers.

I like a marinara, which in Australiaia is a is a seafood pizza disgusting pizza because it's all that weird horrible frozen marinara crap where i get mine oh yeah you get a fancy one i'll never i'll never spill where it is i'll never spill you'll never spill yeah because otherwise you'll get too busy that's will it i don't know, maybe. Good question, though. It is a good question. I like a barbecue chicken pizza. I love a barbecue chicken. I'll do a barbecue chicken with pineapple.

Wow. Wow, that's right. You're not a big fruit and veg guy, though, are you? I like fruit and veg. How dare you? You're not a big fruit and veg guy, though. Would you say on a pizza, at least? No, not on a pizza, no.

Yeah. What about a mushroom? I don't mind a mushroom. But here's the thing, with a mushroom as well, I would much rather go to like a Domino's for a pizza with a mushroom on it as opposed to a fancy place with a mushroom on it. That's a fair point. Don't you hate it?

Have you ever been to a pizza place and they don't cut it because it's so fancy? Wild. Or they just cut like it randomly. Like you get an assortment of random squares. Yeah. Horrifying. I hate it. I say don't do it. I say don't do it also. Hashtag weeklyplanetpod. This is from James62831736 podcast suggestion. This is more for you.

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Hashtag weeklyplanetpod. I think, like, have we done superhero costumes before? Maybe. I don't know. Yeah. We've gotten to that point where we've done 310 now and plus extra stuff and whatever. Yeah. Oftentimes we'll be like, did we do that in a video?

Yeah. That would make sense we do it in a video. That's a good point, actually. Yeah. I feel like this is your area, but what do you think about that? I like it. Yeah, me too. You could definitely do that episode.

That's really good. Is that the end of the show? But again, I am biased insofar as I like the Jared Leto Joker design for the most part. Minus. Minus the tattoos. Yes, I agree. I agree, Mason. Well, Clay's got to go into the city, and I've got to actually properly look after my son.

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