The Weekly Planet - 315 The Jumanji Movies

Episode Date: December 16, 2019

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That's the way the wheels turn, man. Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of The Weekly Planet, where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday. With me, as always, is my co-host, Nick Mason. Oh boy, do we have a lot to talk about this week? We've got so many things to talk about this week. Good. What I said was a question.

Yes. So I'm glad you answered the question. I'm just confirming the thing that you said. I'm having a lot of trouble with tone this week. Oh, fair enough. You're up and down? Yeah, I'm up and down. I'm up and down? Perfect. Excellent. I just wanted to start off the show with something that was brought up in the Great Mates group

and something that also Claire and I talked about on Suggestible this week. I was opposed by one of the members there, Ralster Jones, who lost his wife of 23 years to cancer. She was only 43 years old. It was a really short battle. It was like 15 months. Is that short? Look, it's bad. It's all bad. It's all bad. It's one of those situations where I don't, I don't even know what to say in response to this. It's just a terrible, awful

thing that's happened. And by all accounts and the pictures that he's posted here of her, she would, she would dress up and go to events with him and kind of indulge the geeky side of his personality, which is great. That's all you can hope for, you know? That's right. Find somebody who loves you enough to do a dumb thing that you enjoy. That's right. Or tolerates it. Absolutely.

Whatever you want to call it. But yeah, she just sounded like an incredible person. And I just, I cannot even comprehend like the kind of, the pain that you would be in in this situation. So we just wanted to give a shout out to him and his family. Our absolute condolences. And fortunately the people in the Great Mates group are doing what it says on the tin.

They've been great mates and supporting him through that. So that's really cool. That's it. So look, again, I don't have a good way to transition out of this. I don't have the words to be like to make this better in any way, shape or form. But we just want to say that we're thinking of you and that sucks. It's an awful thing.

Yeah. Now, should we do a hard left turn into like talking about the Wonder Woman trailer or something? Sure, okay, sure. Because we didn't talk about it last week. We didn't talk about it last week. Well, it wasn't out when we... It wasn't out last week.

Yeah, Wonder Woman 84 trailer. Where are you at with that? I'm excited about it. I didn't think... Look, when Pedro Pascal was announced as max lord i'm like i don't see that happening but i guess i'd never seen pedro pascal clean shaven yeah right to which i said at this point now i say give him every role that nathan fillion has aged out of because he's got that are they not the same age i don't know it's quite possible yeah but he's a he

looks like an excellent max lord he's so bronzed and shiny and slimy yeah absolutely so was that the was that like it was in the comics for that guy bronze and shiny and shiny is he wasn't he a brunette man he was a brunette man i take it they're doing this is like trump-esque a sort of like 80s slick businessman wall street kind of you know like michael douglas whatever yeah all purpose yeah it's sort of melting pot of assholes is what it is really because we know that we know that it's it's that it's american psycho yeah you know it's all that sort of all those things yeah and it looks like he has a magic i've done a trailer breakdown it looks like he has a magic crystal of

sorts also i said blue monday coming in 1986 yeah i know oh my god mason look why did i say it multiple times it came off my YouTube and I'm like, I wonder if there's things I've missed. And it came out for like two minutes. I clicked on it and it rolled through for like 30 seconds. I'm like, oh, no. Do I text him? It's done at that point.

It's done, exactly. That's right. Yeah, and I could have edited it out if I didn't say it multiple times in the video, which I did. You kept coming back to me like, I'm excited for this movie except for the anachronism that Blue Monday came in in 1986 and this was in 1984. But in your defense.

Yeah. There were re-releases. Yeah, and it didn't – I think it's one of those – it was released as a single quite a long time before it came out on an album, I think. Oh, well, good. Then I was right, I guess, wasn't I? It blew up, there was a remix in

1988, so that's the one a lot of people... Still none of the years that I said were 86. And obviously there's the version by Orgy, if you remember that one. Remember those guys? Yeah, of course I do. I remember that one song that I remember of theirs. Yeah, and nothing else. And nothing else. Yeah. They're all

in like white leather yes like straight jackets and stuff so good yeah that was like a prod they're like a prodigy ripoff sort of weren't they is ish yeah maybe i don't know it was that marilyn manson was that era marilyn manson like electronic and then like metal and yeah just put it together i don't think they had a dj though i bet they probably had a dj yeah you're naive to think that they didn't have a dj that's very true, yeah. So there's some new bits in it. One where she's, like, whipping the lightning. There was moments where she can, like, grab lightning in the newer comics, apparently.

I guess so, yeah. But I haven't seen that before, which I think is really cool. Yeah, this is really, this is good. I think there's some good use of the lasso, which is a point of difference, because otherwise it's just sword and shield and punching. Well, that's it. They made the effort. They made, like, the distinction to be, like, we don't it's just sword and shield and punching. Well, they made the effort, they made the distinction to be like, we don't want to do sword and shield, we want to do more like...

Bracelets and boomerang head tiara. I think a lasso can make a really interesting weapon. And even though I didn't like Kingsman, also with Pedro Pascal. That's right. There was some awesome lasso stuff in that. Boy, was there ever. If you recall correctly. So, yeah, it just looks really...

I mean, I don't know why she's gone back to that for Batman v Superman. She went back to Sword and Shield. Who's to say? Are any of these in the same universe? I don't know. I think we're going to pretend that that doesn't exist anymore. Well, it's technically, though, framing it as, it's a standalone thing and it's not.

Yeah. Like, it's loose. It's like, I think I said this in my video, but it's standalone in the sense of like james bond indiana jones yeah it's a software reboot yeah ignore the stuff you didn't like and we'll just just focus on the stuff yeah and focus on the stuff you did like uh um we should i think we should throw out some cockamamie theories on why steve trevor is is alive so there was So there was plenty of speculation beforehand. Was this going to be the real Steve Trevor

or were they going to do it like the Wonder Woman TV series where in the first season it was Steve Trevor from World War II and in the second season it's Steve Trevor's grandson in the modern era who just happens to look exactly the same. Perfect. And Wonder Woman has fallen in love with both of them. Problem solved. Problem solved.

And I love it. But in this they've gone, okay, well, it's original recipe Steve Trevor. Yeah, he's back. But is he back? I think he's back. Do you think he's not back? In what sense do you think he's back? I think a magic crystal brought him back.

I think it's probably a magic crystal. Okay, so based on the laws of... So the Flash can time travel. I know they're not going to do that. Yeah, based on the laws of trailer making and crystals, there's a scene where Dr. Minerva, played by Kristen Wiig, she's in a lab and she's looking kind of regretful or torn about something and then it cuts to Steve Trevor's watch from World War I

and then it cuts to Steve Trevor being alive again. And the watch is like shaking. Yeah, so I think the magic crystal, it could be any number of things. It could be the whirligog, which is the time-travelling, it's one of the many time-travelling devices in the DC universe. But it could also be an eclipso crystal, which is basically there's a thousand of them in the world, and if you touch one, you get possessed by eclipso.

He's a real mean dude, but he can create illusions and stuff. That's quite a lot of crystals in the world. It was a really big diamond. It was like a big black diamond and then it got chipped into a thousand pieces, I think. So you think it might be that? It might be an illusion? What I think it is, my hot tip is... Hot tip? They've used the... Hot quick tip.

Hot quick tip! We were going to reconvene hot quick news this week just to talk about the Wonder Woman trailer. We ran out of time. Too hot! Too hot. Too hot. I think that he's back and he's real, so he's not like a hologram or anything like that. Yeah.

But he might even be flesh and blood, but I think he's being held together with magic. Right. Because there's a scene later on in it where he's all sweaty and disheveled and he's like, no, Wonder Woman, you go save the world. I'm too sweaty. I'm too sweaty. I'm too sweaty, which I think is where the magic is wearing off

and he's disintegrating. Which is why he isn't in Batman v Superman, if they are connected. Exactly, because he has to, I mean, logically he has to die again. I think they're using the crystal and his watch with the laws of comic book science. They're using the love and the energy emanating from his watch with the laws of comic book science. They're using the love and the energy emanating from his watch, which is, you know, it represents him and Wonder Woman together and they're using some sort of empathic energy matrix magic stuff.

Because he is physical as well because you see him hit somebody. Yeah, exactly. So I was like, maybe it's like a hologram-y thing. Yeah, no, but I think they're going to use that and the crystal and Dr. Minerva is gonna be part of that and she's regretting it but they're using it to

bring him back for some reason yeah and then the power is gonna maybe she's maybe because in the comics you've mentioned this before he fought his finance the Justice

League so maybe he's brought him back for to lure her in what do you think of this and she's like I love kissing this dude and he's like I know yes we oh we know

we've seen that one photo you were in and we could feel the powerful energy coming off it. So we're putting that in the furnace to put him back together, whatever this thing we're building. We don't see any, they release some character posters and we get Kristen Wiig as Dr. Minerva and she's got kind of, she's got like a cheetah print outfit on. You don't think they're going to do full cat?

I don't know. Maybe at the end. I'm not sure. But I mean, maybe that magic crystal can do all kinds of stuff. But she has that kind of glow up vibe of like Iron Man 3. Remember the guy, Guy Pearce's character? I remember that guy. That very specific guy, Guy Pearce.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's like, I'm just an awful nerd. And then he's like, now I'm a handsome nerd. Now I'm a handsome nerd. I've got a full back tattoo. Not going to regret that. No, sir. You'd think the fire would get rid of it. nerd and then he's like now i'm a handsome man i've got a full back tattoo i'm not gonna regret that no sir you think the fire would get rid of it yeah you can grow an arm back you think the tattoo wouldn't stick yeah right is all i'm saying guy pierce yeah i didn't think about that i didn't

think about it at all uh what else do we have in the trailer we have what it might be the invisible jet or might just be a regular jet i think it's invisible what do you think built the invisible jet it's probably just army tech oh yeah you think built the Invisible Jet? It's probably just Army Tech. Oh, yeah, you think so? Yeah, yeah. I don't think they're going to do with the magic enchantment stuff. Right. You know what I also think?

I think they're going to bring back Steve Rogers completely at the end. Steve Rogers? Yeah, Steve. Captain America? I probably said that in the trailer as well. Old man Steve Rogers? Old man Steve Rogers. No, I think they're going to bring back Steve Trevor.

For good. For good. And then he's going to leave? No, I don't think it matters. Because even though he's not in Batman v Superman and Justice League, it doesn't really matter. Well, I guess that's true. Because she like shoves Ben Affleck at one point.

Well, I mean, that's a good point. Like it could be because. You can't kill him again is what I'm saying. Well, that's true. He's literally died once. So the idea that, you know, it would become, you're right that it could become a running gag that he would now

just bring him back for Wonder Woman 95 and then he dies again kind of thing so it could be that in this instance he has to stop the launch of Windows 95

yeah that's right yeah no no he's got to he's got to convince Weezer to allow them to put the Buddy Holly video clip on the Encarta 95 CD

no he wants to stop Matthew Perry and Jennifer Aniston explaining the new Windows. I don't think that's real. Is that not real? I think that was made up by the internet years later. Have you not seen that video, though? It exists.

Does it? Yeah, of them explaining it. Oh, okay, right. It's real. I mean, maybe it was a parody at the time. Maybe, I don't know. But it's a real video. I've seen it.

Okay. Yeah. Maybe a different thing from the 90s. Maybe a different thing from the 90s. But what I'm saying is that maybe you're right in the sense that if they just kill him again, it's a real video. I've seen it. Okay. Yeah. Maybe a different thing from the 90s. Maybe a different thing from the 90s. But what I'm saying is that maybe you're right in the sense that if they just kill him again, it's a dumb joke. But what if he comes- What if I wanted to kill the DJ from Orgy?

Sorry, go on. Oasis. You know what I mean? I know what you mean. Yeah, exactly. Do you know what I mean? I know what you mean. The song, do you know what I mean i know what you mean the the song do you know

yes um maybe the maybe what happens is he he gets brought back and then she betrays him some way and he's like well i'm we've got to be apart forever now and then she's like oh i've made a big mistake and that's why she's sad about it yeah it's all good stuff yeah also she's wearing the screaming chicken suit from kingdom car i Oh, I love it. I love the screaming. Apparently, because I was like, this must be like a CGI thing. Apparently, it's not.

Apparently, they did a bunch of this practical. I still think there's a very good chance that they just, they redid it as they often do. But it looks good.

I know it's a dumb suit, but I like it. I mean, there's no laws for movie studios to say what they did and did not practically do. Exactly. So they could be like,

yeah, it's real, but on set, it's like a styrofoam. Yeah. It and did not practically do. Exactly. You know, so they could be like, yeah, it's real, but on set it's like a styrofoam. Yeah. It's been spray-painted gold. Exactly. And then there's CGI over the top. I wonder... It'd be hard to fight in that thing as well.

Yeah, because in the... Stunt, you know, stuff. Yeah, it originally appeared in Kingdom Come, and it is kind of like her, you know, in the future, her and Batman and some other heroes have sort of, they've all armoured up because the future is much, much worse. Like that time in Transformers 2 when Optimus Prime got wings briefly. That's right.

And then in Transformers possibly four or five, he flew into space. He was just like, I've got a jet pack now. Bye, everyone. I'm flying into space. Remember that? I do. Yeah. I do.

Didn't get it very far, though. I've got to find the DJ from the band Orgy. I've got to rescue him. The whole universe, as always, hinges on whether or not the DJ from Orgy exists. Yeah. What are we talking about? Does it matter? Yes.

Oh, I was wondering, because in this, I'm wondering if, because we see in the trailer, like, the wings sort of dissolve a little bit. I'm wondering, are they temporary, or can she do that all the time? That's a good question. We'll find out when she fights a big villain in the sky with smoke and lightning or whatever. That's right, exactly. Do you think she's going to fight Cheetah at the end

or is she going to fight a god in the sky again? Because that doesn't look like a Cheetah showdown necessarily. No, that's true. Let me just look up. You might fight a giant Maxwell Lord. Yeah, like he's a big smoke monster or whatever. No, that's true. No. Let me just look up. You might find a giant Maxwell Lord. Yeah. Like he's a big smoke monster. Yeah, exactly.

Well, you know, in some instances he's called Lord Havoc. If you can imagine, there's the second image result is of course him surrounded by smoke and lightning. Perfect. That's all I want.

Yeah, exactly. So maybe that. Or maybe nothing. Maybe he just beats a businessman. Maybe she just beats a businessman to death. Please. A slick businessman. I'm looking forward to businessman to death. Please. A slick businessman.

I'm looking forward to this a lot. They pushed it back to make it a summer release in the US at least and the Northern Hemisphere. Does that mean more competition or less competition? Well, otherwise it would have gone up against – it would have come out now. It would have come out this week. Oh, right.

So it would have been Star Wars Jumanji. Yeah, so it would have had a week. It would probably still do well. Yeah, but it would have done fine against Jumanji, I think. The last Jumanji did really well. Yeah, right. And we'll have been crushed by Jumanji then. Yeah, but I think it's got more of a clear run.

Yeah, for sure. I like the look of it. I'm really looking forward to it, genuinely. And I really like her as Wonder Woman. And it's one of the definitive things in that universe that I can say, that works, like that really works. I feel like a lot of that stuff is like, well, I like the Ben Affleck suit, but I don't like the way he murders people with a gun and whatever.

You can point at that and go, that's right. God, you're so picky, aren't you? Just shovel it all in your mouth. Just take big spoonfuls of it and just nom, nom, nom, nom, nom. I love it. You said this week there was an image released by Zack Snyder. Speaking of Batman and Superman. I made you look at it.

Yes. It looks just like a promotional image. It looks like a Photoshop. Yeah, it looks like a promotional image of Superman, and they've just done the lasso tool around his suit, and they've just made it black and white. It's perfect. It's perfect.

So I thought they'd done it. Like when it came out, I'm like, they must have at some point done this. I think I even maybe did a video on it that they cut it out because there were rumours of it. And I think Henry Cavill's, maybe his Instagram page. He tweeted it exactly. He released, it was maybe, was it a close-up of the Superman chest logo and it was greyscale, right?

Or it might have been even just the suit itself and not the logo. But then it was like, well, I guess that was maybe just a black and white image or whatever. Yeah, that's how they get us. We're easily tricked. I mean, they didn't do the mullet. I'm not happy about that. It's still... Yes. I mean, because it's the only time you do it really, isn't it? Yeah, exactly. What they should have done is they should have

been like, we've got to bring him back from the dead but the only way we can do it is put big electrical paddles on the sides of his head but not on the back. We're going to give him a real charge on the sides and nothing on the back. So I realised something about this, though. This is our new, like, remember we started the show and being like, Batman, Superman's coming out at some point.

Yes. That was what we built this show on. When is it going to come out? Oh, Mason. But I feel like this is the new that because we talk about this version of Justice League every week. The Snyder Cut, yes. And you actually talked,

we were talking about this before the show and you mentioned someone who made a video about it. Oh, if you don't follow Folding Ideas on YouTube, it's a guy named Dan Olsen and he does a lot of videos about movies and a lot about film editing. Yes. And so he's right in there with,

he did a video this week. It's maybe, I think it might even be about 40 minutes. It's about the Snyder Cut, and whether it does or does not exist, and like the various financial and creative and executive decision reasons it may or may not exist and what form it may exist in in real life and stuff like that. And the original version that he made he didn't even shoot.

Yeah, like what's... So that doesn't even exist at all, like that version. Yeah, right. But suppose there is allegedly like an unedited work print, I think, and it's 214 minutes or something like that. So that, if Zack Snyder's Instagram or not, if Zack Snyder's Vero account is to be believed, and why wouldn't be, there's a hard drive out there or some film canisters

with a very, very long version. Three and a half hours. But whether any of it is finished. I mean, we talked about this last week or the week before, that the Snyder Cut as originally envisioned is probably not finished and whether he is going to finance it himself to finish it or someone at Warner Brothers is going to pay to finish it. They still have to green light it regardless

because even if he finishes it, he can't just put it out. Well, exactly. And if you commercially release a work print, then you might have to pay all like the rotoscope artists and the VFX guys again because you're showing their work but it's not finished. Yeah, right. Anyway, people should, if you want a much better explanation

of this whole situation. No, I don't, Mason. Okay, well then stay away from the folding ideas video about us. You've been warned. That's right. Yeah, look, as we've talked about for the past six weeks. Would you watch it though? Of course I would.

I don't care. I don't care at all whether it comes out, but it just needs to happen. I'll be lying if I said I wasn't curious. Of course I am. But it's never going to go away. So just release it so we can be done with happen. Yeah. Like, I'll be lying if I said I wasn't curious. Of course I am. Yeah. But it's never going to go away. So just release it so we can be done with it. Right. And then we can...

But here's the thing. I don't think we ever will be done with it. Because I think... Because then it's not the actual version, and they didn't finish it properly. Okay, hypothetically speaking, and this isn't in the Folding Ideas video, but this is a thought that I had.

Let's say, hypothetically speaking, it's released and it isn't finished. Like, it's like that Wolverine Origins movie that was released, you know, where... One that was leaked. That was leaked by, yeah, it was the Sony hack. And you're like... It was Fox. Oh, okay, right.

Doesn't matter. It doesn't. Right. And there's, you know, there's scenes where, you know, it's just people against green screens or it's just like they've just sort of drawn in his claws and they're not finished and all this sort of stuff and you know if it's a version like that

there's going to be a lot of footage of just people standing around in rubber suits and mocap suits in front of green boxes and delivering dialogue and I feel like for people who are super fans of Zack Snyder, they're going to be like, well, this is deep and gritty and real.

Yeah. And the performances sell it. And if you think it's bad, it's just because you were being tricked by the fact that it's unfinished. Okay, right. Like you can't look beyond the superficial. That's true, I can't. And say that it's good because it is good so i think i think if that version is released the the debate will not

will not end yeah because people will still be like well obviously the dialogue is genius and the performances are genius and everything about this is great but you just see rubber suits and i think i think the joke has proven that this superhero movies should be more than rubber suits. What would be interesting about that, though, if they do release that version, then people can fix it. Oh, they'll do it on their own, yeah. That's true. I don't necessarily think that's a bad thing.

Yeah, people might. And people will fix it. Yeah, people might take a scene each, or somebody might be like, I'm going to take a year of my life and waste it on this to do the entire movie on my own. Yeah, fair enough. Well, let's talk about DC movies some more though, Mason, because there's some release

dates that version of Comic-Con that was last week, whatever it was. Okay, cool. So Snyder Cut, when's that coming out? It's not at this point, but probably for HBO if any time soon, I'd imagine. I still think it's going to happen at some point. Anyway, Shazam 2 is April 2nd, 2022, which is just a few months after Black Adam, which got a release date of December 21st, 2021. So that movie was starring The Rock,

and presumably at the end Shazam will be like, but I'm here with my family, and I'm eating a pizza on the couch. Shazam stuff, you know what I mean? With my family. Wait, so has Black Adam shown up at Shazam's house? Yeah. So you're saying Shazam has brought his entire family to Black Adam's lair

and he's brought a couch and he's had a pizza delivered. Yeah, that's right. He opens his pyramid. Yeah, right, right. He rolls a big rock back and Shazam's already there. He's got a big gulp and a pizza and he's like, and then it's the end. Nice.

Okay, yeah, cool. He's on a skateboard and he's got nice and then it's the end nice okay yeah cool he's on a skateboard and he's got some he's gonna he's got a disc coming on that's right so he's holding a sport they're making a viral video making a viral video okay and that starts the beef that starts the beef where's the beef where it's in black adam's pyramid perfect uh and then after that we're gonna get the flash what's the origin of the term where's the beef i think it was like a campaign okay it wasn't here no no because we had like sam you're being like eat meat what are you gay like that was the straight version of yeah right do you remember those sam keckovich no it was sam new used to do it he's like beef grows your brain oh sam neil right

yeah don't say sam you might have said sam newman oh well that is something sam you look one of australia or new New Zealand's own Sams. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, okay, I remember that. One's obviously better than the other. Yeah, uh-huh. Okay, so Black Adam's- Yeah, it was like shaming people into eating meat.

Yeah, I remember that. It was whatever it was, yeah. Okay, so Black Adam's coming out. Yeah. He's going to have a beef with Shazam. Where is the beef? Two. And then hopefully Shazam 2 is just Black Adam and Shazam

just throwing each other through buildings. That's exactly what it will be. Because the Black Adam will probably do well because it's a rock vehicle and it's coming at it at probably a good time. I think it's up against an Avatar film, but I wouldn't worry too much about that. But you never know. I shouldn't say that. You really don't know.

Side note, Tim Saxby on the Great Mates, Fun Broadcasting Great Mates group, put up a thread earlier in the week. Apparently one, many episodes ago, we said that we would like to go through our old episodes, find everything we got wrong and talk about it. And we would do that if only we had a list of all the things we got wrong. So Tim has taken it upon himself to give us a nice, a very nicely laid out list of all the things we've gotten right.

He's going through episodes. I think he's done like 50 episodes. And it's's all our predictions we've gotten wrong so at some point we'll do an episode i would imagine based on all the stuff we got wrong we can have a fun chat about it we won't get depressed don't worry about it we won't and we're not going to do the opposite because every now and then people were like oh my god you got this right but like we we're just flipping coins here man we don't know know. We just don't know. No, so what I was going to say is Black Adam, The Rock, it's a big movie, and then they do the crossover.

So even though Shazam didn't do well, people liked it. It did okay. Yeah, right. And then off the back of Black Adam, then you combine those things and you make a bigger movie than both. Yeah, for sure. Then in July 1st of 2022, and I believe this one happens. What if they call it Black Adam versus Shazam Dawn of Justice?

Yeah, that would be fun. That would be fun, right? They should totally do that. Yeah. The Flash is coming out. Big gulp of justice. Big. Nice.

That's really good. It's just in the 7-Eleven car park. Yes. It's clerks. This is made clerks, but it's good. And they can't access their powers, so it's just The Rock punching a teenage boy. Well, his friend hits him with his crutch.

Perfect. So The Flash him with his crutch. Perfect. So the flashes in July of 2022, the guy, yeah. Well, Andy machete is doing it. He did it. Okay.

And he's, he's in with water brothers and they seem to like him at the moment. So I think this is as good a shot as any. All right, cool. Is that the tagline? I don't know. This is as good a shot as any. Yeah. Put that in your predictions that I got wrong. All right, cool. Is that the tagline? I don't know. This is as good a shot as any.

Yeah, put that in your predictions that I got wrong. All right, okay. So that's going to happen is what you're saying? I don't know. Okay. It's probably 50-50. You have to make a stance. Yeah, I think this one will happen. Okay, all right.

This is it, though. If they're not doing it now, they're going to scrap the Ezra Miller version. It's been too long. I think you'll find his previous movie was it. Ezra Miller. No. Add that to the list of things Mason said. His previous movie wasn't 50. Very good. Yeah, but I think otherwise it find his previous movie was it. Ezra Miller. No. Add that to the list of things Mason said.

His previous movie wasn't effective. You're very good. Yeah, but I think otherwise it's too long. It's been too long. What a waste of a good suit. Remember the suit? Remember the Flash suit? Is it a good suit?

I think it is, yeah. Imagine it not flailing. I can't. Imagine it's not rubbery arms and legs. I won't imagine that. Okay, all right. Speaking of release dates, though, The Matrix 4 is dated of May of 2021.

It's going to go up against John Wick 4. Huh. It's a Keanu off. Yes, it is. Do you think Keanu has any say in that? No. Yeah, I didn't think so. I think he doesn't care.

That's probably true, yeah. I think he's just happy to be photographed at a bus stop giving an old lady a dollar. Yeah, right. Or happy not to have that happen. Yeah. And just do good things in his life. Yeah.

So that's going to be interesting. Only one of the Wachowskis, of course, directing that. And Mortal Kombat has been shifted up six months to January of 2021, which could either be a good or a bad thing because January is generally the dumping ground of crap. Oh, I see. Right, right, right, right.

But in the last few years, there's been some exceptions to that. So this is probably too far out to be like, this is going to be terrible. Is Mortal Kombat currently filming? Yes. It must be, okay. Why don't some people in Adelaide actually get them to sneak their way onto the set and see what they can do?

Become the stars of the movie Mortal Kombat. And then tell us all about it. Come on this show. That's right. Yeah. And leak us a work print. If they could. I'd love to see that, yeah.

So that's really good stuff. I'm looking forward to the new Mortal Kombat, actually. Me too. Yeah. I'd love to see that, yeah. So that's really good stuff. I'm looking forward to the new Mortal Kombat, actually. Me too. Do you Ghostbusters, Mason? I do Ghostbusters. Do you Ghostbusters Afterlife? I Ghostbusters Afterlife. Do you like a universe which is an extension,

a sequel, if you will, to the first two Ghostbusters movie and that video game, which also had the original cast? It's 30 years on, but nobody remembers when there was a million ghosts in new york for some reason you don't tell people that that's all i would talk about if there were a million ghosts one time yeah but you know what it's new york and it's crazy it's crazy out there but also i feel like you know i'm in the news media cycle yeah look if i've learned anything from our friends

over at the podcast do go on sure a lot of weird incidents happen. And then if somebody were like, hey, do you remember the great emu war? I'd be like, that surely didn't happen. But it did happen, right? The army lost against a bunch of emus. They should have gone at them with a wheat thresher. It doesn't make any sense. You can't shoot an emu in the head. They've got tiny little heads.

And even if you did it, then they've got even smaller brains. Probably keep going like a chicken. Ridiculous. If you got a wheat thresher and just went through them if you did it, then they've got even smaller brains. Probably keep going like a chicken. Ridiculous. If you got a wheat thrasher and just went through them, that's how I would have won the emu war. Or a scythe and you just aim it, go for the legs. I've thought about this a lot.

You're a tactical genius on the level of general pattern. It's a shame you weren't alive when the great emu war was happening. I would not have involved myself. What I'm saying is that if somebody were like, hey, you remember the ghost invasion of New York in the 80s? You'd be like, I can't be sure that didn't happen. You know what I mean? And I think people would were like, hey, you remember the ghost invasion of New York in the 80s? You'd be like, I can't be sure that didn't happen. You know what I mean? And I think people would be like, a bunch of unexplained phenomenon and a bunch of weird, carny con men showed up in New York and released.

Because if you remember Ghostbusters 2, they were like. People were over it by then, weren't they? Yeah, they were like, well, it was just probably gas leaks and hallucinogenic chemicals in the water, and these guys were just a bunch of frauds or whatever. Yeah. Just that again. That again, I guess, yeah.

And a common criticism of this is, first of all, people seem to like it much more already than the last one. Is the first criticism that it doesn't look like a comedy? Yes. Yeah. But. It looks like an episode of Stranger Things. Yes.

But I'll say that. With one of the stars of Stranger Things. Correct. But I think. Yes. I think there's going to be comedy in this 100%. Because Paul Rudd's in it. Because Paul Rudd's in it. But I think it's also a good idea to take it out of New York

and do a sequel in a different setting. Even though it's connected but with a different cast like this. I think it's a smart way to do it as opposed to just trying to do it again in New York. I'm not saying it's going smart way to do it as opposed to just being trying to do it again in New York. And you get it. I'm not saying it's going to be good. I think it's going to be, it could be, you know,

it could be all right. It's got a lot of, you have to make a stand. I think I'm going to like it. I think I'm going to like it. And it's going to be good. Yeah. So,

and it's the son of the director who directed the first one as well. Not that that necessarily means anything because talent isn't passed down through sperm necessarily. It's correct. Yes. It's a myth. Uh, but I liked it. It's a myth. But I liked it.

I liked the trailer. Yeah. So the Ecto-1 having a gunner's seat. I love it. Is that from the cartoon maybe? Because I don't think it was in Ghostbusters 2. Was it in the real Ghostbusters? That's what I'm talking about. No, the real Ghostbusters?

Was it in that? That's the cartoon. No, but there's the other Ghostbusters cartoon, which is like a spin-off of the show, of that show that was called Ghostbusters. Yeah, that's the Ghostbusters. And that's with the monk, the gorilla in it. Yeah, that's Ghostbusters.

I'm talking about the real Ghostbusters. So the real Ghostbusters was actually the movie version of Ghostbusters. No, okay. Well, not exactly, but it's that, it's got slime. It's a lot of slime up. Don't shut up for a second. You shut up. There's two Ghostbusters cartoons.

I know. When I was a kid, there were two Ghostbusters cartoons, right? There was the one you were talking about, Ghostbusters, which is they had a haunted car and a gorilla and whatever. And then there was the real Ghostbusters, which was a sequel of sorts to the Ghostbusters movies. But they all looked different. They all looked different just to distinguish them.

Egon was blonde? Egon was blonde. He had that toy where his eyes would pop out. Yeah, and so basically... That's the one with Slimer. Yeah, that's the one with Slimer. And then that lady became Slimer in the real Ghostbusters because Slimer was very popular with kids.

And then there was, I think, then there was one called Extreme Ghostbusters. But anyway, I'm thinking that maybe in the real Ghostbusters there was like a gun seat in the actual one. But in the cartoon, the origin of the name The Real Ghostbusters is that after the events of Ghostbusters 2, they throw away their old jumpsuits and they get inhabited by ghosts.

So there are like Ghostbuster ghosts wandering around and they have to bust those Ghostbusters. So then to distinguish themselves from those Ghostbusters, they call themselves The Real Ghostbusters. So then to distinguish themselves from those Ghostbusters, they call themselves the real Ghostbusters. So people are thinking that these ghost Ghostbusters are the real Ghostbusters. Yeah. So there's an in-universe explanation

as to why they're called the real Ghostbusters. But in reality, that was just to distinguish it from the show with the gorilla in the van. Yeah, exactly, yeah. I remember watching that gorilla in the van when I'm being like, excuse me, what is happening? What is this?

And that's based off a show from the 60s or 70s. Yeah, or a comic book or something. Yeah, I think it was a live action thing. Anyway, I'm looking forward to this. Me too. On May 10th, Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes is coming to IMAX and theatres everywhere. What a wonderful day!

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800 employees were let go from MPC studio in Vancouver. There was a bunch of back and forth about it. But there were some Reddit posts by somebody who worked there. This just kind of highlights the situation with VFX artists that are kind of underpaid and overworked and tossed aside. The Life of pie guys were. Yeah. I'm assuming the Lion King did well,

right? Made a billion dollars. Made a billion dollars. And these guys, this, this in essence, and you'll, you'll read from in a second,

but it's, it's that they, the studio just wasn't, they haven't paid them yet. Well, that's part of it. Yeah. Or didn't,

or then there's, and they did a bunch of overtime. So we put in extreme hours, wrapping two infamous projects in the last couple of months. We've done multiple weeks with our day off, regular 17-plus hour shifts to the point of most of us are seriously sleep-deprived and still suffering. This person later updated and said...

Just kidding. I love Disney. Very rarely people were doing less than 10 hours a day. And if you wanted to leave after eight hours, you had to get permission to go home. And if you didn't want to work uh over time at the weekend you had to give it a satisfactory reason as why you couldn't or they'd label it as an unauthorized uh absence so it says we've worked really hard to get uh language language person language person on reddit who lost your

job this is how it works i'll bleep it i'll want, Mason. If you could. If it makes you feel better. Could you bleep it with a honk? Thank you. Put that in. Get this work out. That'll be funny. That'll be funny for the listeners. And once they hear the context, they'll hear the... It'll be even funnier.

We're all going to laugh. We're going to have a go at it. Tomorrow, I'm going to just put the episode on and just listen to that bit and laugh and laugh. Anyway, continue. Sorry. We worked really hard to... that one live to get this work out the door for the npc for npc and i'm genuinely ashamed that they are happier prioritizing their staff margins and tax incentives over the insane talent and commitment of hundreds of dedicated vx fx artists in vancouver honestly feel insulted

like i've given npc my all and in return they've given me the finger. Good luck to all the insanely talented artists who are currently employed in other locations. They do have other branches. Because the second another location becomes more attractive, you could be the next on the chopping block. Also says that, look, I can't speak for everybody

but yeah, this is this person's experience. So the same thing happened with, remember Life of Pi, they won an oscar yeah right they're amazing stunning breathtaking cgi tiger and everything else it's mostly that movie is mostly cgi and a boy like that's the way that that movie works but it's fine it's i don't mind it i'm not a huge fan but it looks incredible like it's an incredible looking film and And when they were receiving their Academy Award and they were trying to highlight, do you know about this? So they were highlighting the industry

and how they were struggling with VFX work. Often these people get unrepresented. Directly behind the award giving, the members of the VFX team were being shot. They were being lined up against the wall and all shot. Well, what actually started happening is they got the playoff music as they started to, and people couldn't really hear them because the music started up as they were like,

and we just wanted to give a shout out to, and then the music kicked in. Oh, wow. Okay, right, right. That's kind of indicative of this kind of situation. I think it's just, I mean, people know this, obviously, but it's ridiculous when a movie like The Lion King, it doesn't even matter if it makes a billion dollars.

You should be paid for your work. That's the reality of it. And in a timely fashion so you can pay your bills. Exactly. And it's the same with like crunch periods in video games. It's just expected, these people, because it's like it's a good job and you should be happy to be doing it or whatever. It doesn't matter.

It doesn't matter you're still doing a job. It doesn't matter if you're in the industry that you love you don't love it if you're there 17 hours a day it's insane yeah right anyway what are we going to do about it nothing just thought i'd just bring it up anyway oh that reminds me um do i have to be here for 17 hours yeah you do mason but i've been doing it for six days in a row that's different you love it do you love it or not we? We just do the podcast over and over again. You pick the best one. I don't understand. You should be grateful for doing something you love.

That's true. Best industry in the world, podcast industry. Next week's episode, and of course this week, we're getting The Rise of Skywalker. That kind of snuck up, didn't it? Yeah. Are you excited? I am excited.

I'm too. I'm genuine. I'm curious about what way it's going to go. The premiere, I think, didn't it? Yeah. Are you excited? I am excited. I'm too. I'm genuine. I'm curious about what way it's going to go. The premiere, I think, is on Monday or Tuesday. There's already leaks out there. I would say stay off the internet. Oh, yeah, right. You don't want to know anything because there's all sorts of spoilers floating about, which

I've mostly, I think, avoided so far. And I will be. I'm not going to be on the internet anyway because I don't really want to know anything. And you don't believe in the internet. And I don't believe in the internet or ghosts. What's it ever done for you, the internet? Not a single darn thing. Exactly.

Yeah, so anyway, I wanted to talk about, there's been a bunch of interviews this week and everybody's excited and the process and whatever. And you see there's some being talked now, The Last Jedi, that stuff has reared up again because John Boyega was like, I didn't agree with some of the stuff in that movie. Oh, I see, right.

And suddenly it's like this whole thing of like, well, everybody hates it and the stars hated it. And even J.J. Abrams said that fans don't necessarily want it, the genre twisted on its head or whatever. And I don't know. I think some of those things are taken out of context. Maybe they genuinely don't like the movie. I don't know.

We're still talking about The Last Jedi. We sure are. We'll never stop talking about it. Anyway, I didn't mean to get into any of that because what I wanted to talk about was J.J. Abrams. We'll do a Star Wars one next week. Okay, cool. Let's do a Star Wars movie.

We haven't seen it yet. Also, the Caravan of Garbage this week is that comic about the Emperor coming back from the dead. Oh, yeah. It's a good one. I'm really benzene-ing at the moment. Eric did some animations looking really good. Anyway, J.J. Abrams mentioned in relation to the original trilogy

that the changes that were made was, I guess, what George Lucas wanted in the sense that Disney might not be able to release the original theatrical versions because it seems to be some kind of clause in there that he kind of hints at. Oh, he snuck in a clause. So people are yelling at Disney for not doing this thing. Right. It seems very possible. How did anyone miss that? I don't think they missed it. I think it was just a condition.

I don't think they missed it at all. I think it was just like, this is the version. So wait, what is... So the condition in Lucas's contract with Disney when he sold them the Star Wars franchise is he said you can never release the original theatrical versions. Maybe. It seems that original theatrical versions. Maybe. It seems that way, yeah.

Okay. So the non-CGI versions, the ones where no one says McClunky at any point. Yes. It says, I guess that's what George Lucas wanted and that's what he did. And so I respect that. Although I feel there is something about the original theatrical version that was for many people to think they loved about it. It's the best version.

Yes. In my opinion. I think there's some, we did a opinion. I think there's some, I, we did a video. I think there are some good changes. I think you can tweak and clean up some stuff that, that just, just looks better in general. But I think we'd,

we've talked about it. Yeah. We have talked about it and we'll continue to talk about it forever more. I think the original versions of the best, cause some of it looks kind of dumb. Yeah. No, well that's not incorrect,

but anyway, Star Wars next week and Star Wars forever, am I right? Star Wars forever. Woo. I'm reinvigorated for Star Wars. You know why? Because we're going to talk about, we're going to watch Star Wars this week, then we're going to talk about Star Wars next week, and then we'll be able to stop talking about Star Wars

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Right? Or just buy a bunch of bats. Baseball bats. Oh, yeah, cool. Aluminum, if you're in the US. I understand. They're light. We say aluminium.

Yeah. But we're behind in Australia, so we'll get the robots like six years later. Can't wait. Can't wait. Anyway, that's all linked below. Jumanji. We're going to talk about all the Jumanji films though, aren't we?

Because we haven't really talked about all the Jumanji movies, except for the movie Zathura, which we have talked about. Yes. At great length in Caravan of Garbage. Not really a sequel to Jumanji, though, is it? Technically, it is a sequel. It's not a sequel. It's the same.

Even Jack Black and the director of the new Jumanji confirmed. Have you seen the interview where Jack Black's like, technically this is... Jack Black, famous creator of both the Jumanji and Zathura books and movies. Jack Black, the actor Jack Black from Tenacious D. Also the director of the. God, he's multi-talented that he could do all those things and also create and direct and bloody write and illustrate Jumanji and Zathura, the books and movies.

And he was in an episode of the X-Files. He should shut up. You should shut up. Maybe I will shut up. Anyway, fine. Then we're going to talk about the Jumanji trilogy, including the new one. It's not out in Australia. The Jumanji trilogy.

Yes, that's right. Jumanji 12? Yeah, no, we've done it. We've done it all. We do it. We do different ones. So it's not out in Australia, but we got to see an advanced screening. You saw half of that.

I saw half of it. Yeah, I had to go to work. But we are going to cover them all. Here's the thing, though. to go to work, yes. But we are going to cover them all. Here's the thing, though. I don't think missing the last half would affect my review of the movie.

I don't think so. I think, you know, I'm going to see it again when it comes out. I'll see it properly. Yeah. But it's not a movie where there is astounding twists and turns. No. You either like it or you don't like it, I feel. Yeah, I think if you like the previous one, then it's more of that,

which I don't think is a bad thing because there's enough kind of changes in it where I don't like it less than the previous one. Yeah, right. That kind of sounds like a backhanded compliment, but it's not meant to be because it's as good, I feel. And if anything, that's on par with all your other reviews. Correct. Which is a backhanded compliment.

Correct. Anyway, do you want to start with the first Jumanji? Yes. Did you rewatch it? I rewatched it. I did for 1995. And I kind of hated it. You know what I did like about it?

Yes. There's like a scariness and a creepiness. To his dad, correct. To his dad, but also in general in this movie because like robin williams clearly has ptsd from being trapped in the jungle for 26 years yes and they kind of explore that i guess that's true and that's not something they've really looked at in the new ones because nick jonas was in the jungle for 20 years and he seems fine yeah right because the concept of time has been shifted and they've kind of of course he's fine he's colin hanks he's colin hanks

but they've also kind of jazzed up. Because I was under the impression from just this movie that it looks like there is nothing in that jungle. There's just jungle shit and a hunter and him. Yeah, right. But they've got markets and fairs and sexy ladies. Yeah, right. Whatever, you know, magical animals.

Yeah. But the Robin Williams version I got the feeling is everything is horrible. Even the good stuff is bad. I mean, he is living in a board game. Yeah, that's true. God, can you imagine? Oh, my God. I think that's why I enjoy the new versions more than I enjoy the old version

because I'm on board with A, I guess going into that world and B, playing video games in general. Like if I'm at somebody's house and they're like, we're getting out the board games, I'm like, I've got to go on my phone now and then leave. I think though also you couldn't make that video game version in the 90s because the way that video games work in the modern day, none of that stuff would fly in the 90s because none of it existed.

So the idea of a video game movie then was nonsense. Yeah, the video game version of Super Mario would have been pitfall. Yeah. Super pitfall. I'll give them super pitfall. Yeah, you'll give them, bloody, would you give them Double Dragon? I'll give them Rick Dangerous, a weird old video game where you're a weird version of Indiana Jones.

I love it. It's a little platform puzzler game. Rick Dangerous. And in a sequel, in Rick Dangerous 2, you were a Flash Gordon style character, but it was the same guy except he went to space. Rick Dangerous. Rick Dangerous, yeah. Were they good?

Were they Commander Keen kind of knockoffs? They were more puzzly than Commander Keen, but yeah, kind of. I like that. Okay. Well, get used to it because that's all this podcast is going to be about for the rest of time. I don't want to talk about Rick Dangerous. podcast is going to be about for the rest of time i don't want to talk about rick dangerous every level of rick dangerous i've never even heard of it it's like i've got nothing to say about it i think it might have been british i don't know it sounds british yeah this shouldn't be called richard dangerous oh yes lord lord

richard dangerously so yeah so i think the idea of a board game works in the 90s and the idea of an open board video game with npcs works in the modern day i think it was developed by core design so it was that's british or possibly french great yeah was it folded into sierra and then folded into nothing almost certainly yeah yeah i just like the what i did like about, there's some wonky CGI stuff in this, but it's more, it's like the monkey faces are like, oh my God. Also, I didn't buy that the monkeys could hijack a car. Why not?

They're magic. I guess they're magic monkeys. That's true. They didn't think of that. But I mean, in the universe in which they live, they wouldn't know how to start a car. No, but they're just trying stuff. And they're magic, Mason.

I guess so. Look, I can 100% buy them cocking and firing a shotgun. For sure. Did you like it when one was in the freezer and it came out of the freezer? We should explain. Did we need to explain Jumanji? The plot of Jumanji, surely not. There's a board game.

And then stuff comes out of it. It's a magic board game. Yeah. Invented by Satan, as we've established. When we talked about Zathura for Caravan of Garbage, I'm fairly confident that. Now, again uh without spoiling anything really because i didn't get to the end of jumanji the next level yeah do they reveal that the origin of the jumanji game is satan no but they don't reveal it either either way i do want to talk about the ending uh without spoiling

it okay we can do that what i think the new next movie will be oh so there's definitely you feel it's definitely gonna be i think it's if it's what I think they're going to do, I think it's a brilliant idea. Rick Dangerous. Oh, shut up about Lord Richard Dangerously. Rock Dangerous. He's going to go to space. He's going to put on a Flash Gordon suit.

They won't go to space. They won't do it. Okay, anyway. Yeah. So what do you think about the special effects, though? Because there is some, like, you'll get, like, a CGI line, but then you've got the real, like, head of it. Yeah, right, right, right.

And there's some weird compositing going on. Sure, yeah. Green screen issues. But, like, you know, like the stampede running through the house. Here's the thing, though. I think with Zathura, if I'd seen Zathura as a kid, I probably would have been like, no, I'm not on board with this. Like, it's kind of, it never really goes anywhere.

But I think if I'd seen Jumanji as a kid, I would have been on board with this. Like it's kind of, it never really goes anywhere. But I think if I'd seen Jumanji as a kid, I would have been on board with this. I'd be like, this is an adventure movie for the ages. I did see it as a kid. It was the first and maybe only time I'd been to a drive-thru. And we were like. Too busy making out. Yeah, and I was with my family.

But I was 10 minutes late. Oh, what? So you didn't know any. I mean, I got the general idea. So that's my opinion of Jumanji as being like. You didn't see the whole shoe factory. I didn't know any I mean I get the general idea So that's my opinion Of Jumanji as being like You didn't see the whole Shoe factory

I didn't see the shoe factory So at the end where he's like Look at this shoe I'm like what's a shoe I yelled at my dad Right right right I've got to get out of here Then you kicked the door

Out of the car And you ran into the night So Was this Coburg driving It's probably Coburg I'd imagine it would have been Yeah Yeah it's probably

Yeah no it would have been Yeah Yeah. Yeah, it's probably. Yeah, no, it would have been. Yeah. The world. Yeah, so that's my, and then I kind of saw it maybe on TV a few years later a couple of times. But no, I think what makes this movie better than Zathura. And you were like, man, this would have been better if I could just feel the exhaust seeping into my nose. Are you a fan of the drive-through? I haven't been.

Drive-in? I think I saw Guardians of the Galaxy at the drive-in. Oh, did you? It was pretty fun. Did we go to the premium? Yeah, but I saw it again. Okay, great. Cool, cool stuff.

But no, so I think there was a good use of practical stuff, like there's scuttering spiders and... Yeah, okay, right. You know, and... They are some genuinely terrifying... Any kind of giant insect design is pretty terrifying. No good? Yeah, what about the bats?

The bats are good? Bats are good. Gigantic man-eating plant, not so good. Really? I thought that was good. Yeah, what about the bats? The bats are good? Bats are good. Gigantic man-eating plant, not so good. Really? I thought that was good. It was kind of that Rocky Horror kind of feel to it. Do you mean Rocky Horror? Do you mean...

Whatever, mate. You know what I mean. Yeah, the thing. You know what I mean. The little shop of horrors. Yes, that one. Wait a minute. I just realised, is the woman...

Oh, you didn't see the end. I think the woman who... It is. The woman who adopts the kids. Is this a spoiler for Jumanji 3? Yeah, sort of. No, not really. Owns the restaurant that Danny DeVito used to own.

I might be wrong. It's the same actor, at the very least. Oh, well then. She's Frasier's wife. Based on the rules of the Jumanji's authority universe, there's not any defined connection there, even though they're the same actor. Well, no, because they're both Jumanji movies is what I'm saying.

Right, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think there's also a good gag. There's some good gags in it. There's a moment where they ask, where he's like, go and get the axe from my father's shed, and he goes out there, and then he grabs the axe to knock down the shed, and then he realises that he's holding the axe.

But then he looks at the camera, he's like, do you remember that bit? Yeah. The monkey boy looks at the camera. Yeah. Like, it's a bit much monkey boy keep moving but no i think what this does well and maybe that the other movies don't do as well is genuine terror and suspense and ramping up action right in the way that it's kind of like get the crystal to the whatever which is like the newer jumanji but i think the newer jumanji's had the is fine. But I think the newer Jumanji's had the premise of the limited number of lives.

Yes. Which I think that built tension. I like that premise. But I guess... But it feels more real when they're in a house and a lion's trying to eat you. Yeah, they were in the real world, I guess. And there's also, it's more terrifying,

just the unknown, I think, of this. You just don't know what's... Yeah, and I kind of feel like in Jumanji, the sequels, that, yeah, maybe you die and then you get trapped. I mean, you probably just get ejected somewhere. Yeah. You probably just arrive in a blockbuster in the 90s, you know? Oh, God.

Yeah, I know. Fade worse than death. Oh, my goodness. So do you think there was actual people in the world of Jumanji when Robin Williams was in there? Because he built that cabin kind of where he lived. Yes. Or whatever it is, the little retreat.

Yes. That's a good question because in Jumanji, the second Jumanji, there are some references to Alan Parrish, right? Yes. Because Nick Jonas' character. Yeah, because you see that hut. Yes, right. It's got his name on it.

And also it's interesting because in the newer Jumanji as well, Nick Jonas, when he does turn up, I don't know if you'd left at this point he's bought them clothes he's like here's some snow gear and they're like you can buy stuff and he's like yeah i was here for 20 years there's markets and stuff yeah which means there must have been when robin williams was there but then again he went in 96 and robin williams got out in 95 so maybe that was a maybe that was a video game thing. Yeah, maybe Jumanji evolves. Like the universe expands based on the available technology in the real world.

So original Jumanji, because it was restricted, because it was a board game, he was restricted to what's on the board essentially. So I guess he had a tiny universe and just as he left, like he was probably leaving and he saw it evolve into video game form and he just sees like you know towns and cities arrive yeah you know bars and yeah and and places to buy store you know yeah the provisions and stuff like that he's like damn god damn it yeah you might be

right so i guess before it was a board game it was probably a hoop and a stick yeah it was a hoop and a stick you just get trapped in a big wheel and you just spin endlessly. What happens is you start the game Jumanji, which is a stick and a hoop, and then you roll it down a hill and then it rolls a bit too fast and then you fall and you just endlessly roll down a hill for 20 years. And then you end up in a cursed board game. You're like, oh, this is a welcome relief.

Oh, my God, I can lie down on this leaf. Is that what these movies are about, about how life sucks but sometimes technology improves it slightly? I guess so. Is that what it is? Yeah, so Jumanji seems like more appealing and more fun as you kind of, as it evolves. I mean, it depends.

I mean, if you. No, but I think, you know, back in the day, people would be like, they'd be lining up around the block. Let me play the hoop and the stick game. I don't care if it traps me in an endless loop of falling down a hill. I don't care. It's better than the plague. But if we, say if there's some kind of apocalyptic situation.

Yes. Then we'll revert to like sand and mutants or whatever. Yeah, it's just cave paintings. Yeah, so that means Jumanji would then revert to like a rock that you hit people with. Like that's the game. It's like pick up your rock and hit your neighbour with it or whatever. Yeah, right?

Yeah. Or maybe that's how it started. Oh, maybe. Oh, there should be a movie or an anthology series which is the various eras of the Jumanji game. Maybe at one point it's just schoolyard bullying. There's one version of the game whereji game. Maybe at one point it's just schoolyard bullying. There's one version of the game where you just put a stick in the drinking tap at school

and somebody pulls the switch and it just sprays him in the face really hard. And then it goes, Jumanji! And you're like, ah! I hate this! This sucks. So it's just the real world. It's just the real world, yeah. But it evolves with the real world. It's just the real world, yeah.

But it evolves with the real world, yeah. Terrific. I was watching it with Claire. She fell asleep, but she always does. And I'm looking at this hunter, right? Yeah. And I kept insisting to her that, like, I'd just cut that dude's throat. Like, I'd straight up murder that guy.

She's like, you wouldn't. And I'm like, I would because he's not real. So I could. If I'm in the jungle and he's after me, I'd stab him. I just would. Well, doesn't Alan Parrish show up with a knife? Yeah, he's got a knife. Yeah, he does have a knife.

So I think you could get away with it. You could murder. I mean, they do murder people. We've seen it in the video game version. Yeah, right. Do you think you could murder that man? Because I think I could. I think I could best him physically.

He's obviously a better shot sometimes. But if you just get within range of you know i reckon i could stab him inside his you know his blunderbuss does he sleep because like i could find him and kill him i guess it would depend on the rules of if the like let's say you were playing a board game and there's a hunter like you you move a piece around the board and there's a hunter that follows you in the rules of the board game you if you can't kill the hunter on the board game, then maybe you just can't kill him in the game. That's actually a really good point, yeah. You may want to kill him.

Yeah, and he's probably superior. Like you want to kill everybody you play Monopoly with, obviously. But he's obviously a superior tracker and everything. But they knock him over with paint cans in the real world. You're saying we should kill him in the real world. Yeah, we should kill him in the real world. Like Freddy, you drag him into the real world. Yeah, we should kill him in the real world. Like Freddy, you drag him into the real world. Yeah, then you tear him into pieces.

He's vulnerable to fire so you trap him in the house and you set the house on fire. I don't know. I just feel like you just could kill him. Oh yeah, for sure. He's a bumbling idiot. Yeah, that's right.

But I also think that even though the world of Jumanji is dangerous and you can get stuck in it and we've talked about this in Satoru and there's poisonous spiders and plants that can eat you and crocodiles, you cannot physically be hurt in the long term. Right.

It will revert eventually. I mean, as far as we know, in the board game version you can't. In the video game version, who knows? Well, that's a very good point. My assumption has always been in the video game version is that if you die in the game, you die in real life. But no one has ever actually died. No, I think you're just out until it's fixed.

I don't know. Oh, you're just real life. But no one has ever actually died? No, I think you're just out until it's fixed. I don't know. Oh, you're just in a limbo, I guess. Yeah, I don't think they can definitively say it because then that lowers the stakes. Yeah, right, right. Or they have to kill somebody for real in the movie. Yeah, right. I don't think they'll do that either.

So, yeah. Anyway, I just killed that guy. I just cut his throat. When that paint can fell on him, I'd just walk up and I'd... Cut his throat, yeah. Cut his throat. Just get a pair of scissors out of the kitchen drawer and just cut his throat with them.

It's probably magic. I don't know. It probably wouldn't work. The paint can lands on him and you just look around the house for just deadly implements. You go to the garage, you get a big rusty saw out. But you didn't like it. What is it that you don't really like about it?

It's very hokey. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. But I don't know? It's very hokey. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. But I don't know if it's deliberately hokey. Like the first, I don't know, I feel like it's intended. It's like 90s hokey. Yeah, I know. Yeah, and that's maybe what I hate.

Yeah. I don't like it. I really like Robin Williams, but I don't like a lot of his 90s output. Oh, really? I don't know if I like that. I don't know if I like Mrs. Doubtfire. Do you like Jack? No, I don't like. I don't like Jack. Patch Adams. I don't know if I like Mrs. Doubtfire. Do you like Jack? No, I don't like Patch Adams.

I don't like the one where he died and he has to trek through heaven to find his wife or whatever. You remember that one? Nowhere, wherever I am. What dreams may come. Yes, that one. Exactly. You nailed it.

Bicentennial Man? No. Is that even the 90s? That might have been. I like that one. I know it's like, just I like the idea of a robot like evolving into a person. I think I like him more as, Toys?

More as a person and as a animated character than I do. Oh, like a genie. Yeah. Yeah, okay. That's fair enough. So I like him in this movie

because he's like spooky and damaged, as I mentioned. Yeah, right. And he would, of course he is. Yeah. And he's still like

got the mind of a child but the body of a man. Yeah, he's had no education. Yeah, so I just think that's really, I think he plays it really interestingly. And he has no sense of time also. He's got no sense of time. Surely you'd know you'd been away for decades. You didn't know that.

That's weird. Even as a child, you would understand the passage of time. Yeah. Isn't he marking it on a tree or something? He wasn't marking it on a tree, I don't think. When we went back to it in Tumanji slash 3manji, they hadn't been marking stuff on trees. That's true, yeah. Yeah. Anyway, do you want to move to Tumanji slash Threemanji, they hadn't been marking stuff on trees. That's true, yeah.

Yeah. Anyway, do you want to move to Tumanji? Let's talk about Tumanji. I re-watched this again this week. What did you think? When it was coming out, I was like, I probably won't see this. And I don't think I did see it at the cinemas. I realized I'd rented it and I'd bought it online.

So I went to watch it and I'm like, oh, I already purchased this. Good. So I like it. It's different, but I like that it's different. I like that they adapted it to the modern day. And in the same way that I think Ghostbusters, they're smart to change it for the modern day. It's interesting that in retrospect,

and it never even occurred to me when we talked about Tumanji last time, is that it's a version in which there's never any ramifications in the real world in Tumanji. No, yet. Oh. Talk about the end. Oh, okay. Yeah.

But no, there's not. I mean, except for the boy being missing. I guess that's true. There was a missing boy. But there's no point where, like it's a reversal in the sense that it isn't about somebody escaping from Jumanji, the video game, and then video game stuff destroying the real world temporarily. Yeah, it's not pixels.

It's the other way around. It's the other way around. Yeah, you're not wrong. It makes you think, doesn't it? It does make you think. What I like about this movie as well is it starts with the spookiness of Jumanji and then it becomes... And it's like a guy getting sucked into a video game and it's a spooky house and a cranky old man and stay out of Jumanji and then it becomes, yeah. And it's like a guy getting sucked into a video game and it's a spooky house

and a cranky old man and stay out of Jumanji and whatever. And then it's just turns into this ridiculous video game-esque movie where all the performances of the leads are quite good. Like they're a good, what's it say, pair, quadruple. What's the word? Four people. That's not one word. Then five people.

Then five people. You're not wrong. Yeah, I think it's a clever idea. And I think the reason it made a lot of money is because it's like a fun family movie. Yeah, everybody seems to really be enjoying playing in some cases against type and in some cases kind of, I guess getting the chance to play these sort of double layered characters, which is fun. And Nick Jonas

who's someone like I'd never think about, is really good in both of these movies. Like he's charismatic and he's cool and he does well doing like, he's sort of Tom Hanks' son sort of, I guess. But he's mostly just Nick Jonas-ing, I guess. But he's a good addition as well.

And he is in the new one as well. Well, I wouldn't know. I think that there's elements of it that are less interesting. Like there's a moment when they do a helicopter chase in a canyon and there's just CGI rhinos chasing them. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's like, whatever. Like it really is.

That's the stuff where I'm like, that's not as interesting as like a poison plant that's slowly killing you. Well, that's true. And I guess also in this universe, all you really have to do is not be like bodily chomped by a giant snake or something, you know? Just stay away from the enormous giant snake that is going to eat you whole. Yeah.

Because you'll probably be fine. Probably be fine. But you like the idea of the lives as well though, the three lives. Yeah. I like the idea of the lives as well though The three lives I like the It wasn't as A lot of movies where people get sucked into video games Or whatever It's quite on the nose

Like the mechanics of the universe Like well this is the skills you have And this is the powers you have And here's the Etc But I think So you think it is Or not on the nose

I think it's not on the nose I think it's quite subtle I think the way they explain it is Well well, some people don't know what this is and some people do. And then they re-explain it in the new one and it also kind of makes sense the way that they. But I also think it's interesting that the choices they make in relation to those characters and the skills that they have,

I think it creates interesting scenarios as well. And this is all stuff can be said for the new one as well. The new one is basically the same as the second one. Let's talk about the new one. Okay. I don't really have much else to say because, again, it all applies. The best addition to this is obviously, if you've seen the trailer, the Jumanji video game from the previous movie has been put together

in a sort of a haphazard way. It's been re-Mungied. And our heroes go back into the game. There's some glitches. There's a difference. The system's been upgraded somehow. It's a different mission. There's a different mission.

There's different skills. I mean, it's still get the thing. It's absolutely still get the thing from like a fearsome warlord kind of character. Yes. Who's the guy from Game of Thrones? The mountain, yeah. The mountain from Game of Thrones? No, the hound.

The hound. There we go. Yeah, yeah. It's one of from Game of Thrones? The Mountain, yeah. The Mountain from Game of Thrones? No, the Hound. The Hound. There we go. Yeah, yeah. It's one of those crazy brothers. They should have brought him in as the Mario brothers. Quick, which one's Mario and which one's Luigi? Luigi's the Hound. Well, yeah.

Because he's the downtrodden brother. Yes, that's true. And Mario is the Mountain. Mario's the Mountain. And Mario, well, they both really don't talk that much. But I feel like Luigi talks more. I don't know. That's even true but i feel like luigi is always in the shadow of his brother he's in a spooky house often and mario is obviously an undead monster yes he's always like kill anything just just just going coming out of his face you know and he'll kill anything he'll

kill anything he'll sleep in the sewer or whatever where he belongs anyway i'm saying they should have brought him back. Is he a real world plumber, Mario? I don't know. Not anymore as far as I know. Okay. Also, canonically, how old is Mario

if you had to guess? Well, in the first game he was probably 40, I assume. All right, well, what's your answer though? Oh, so like 70, let's say. He's 25. No, he's...

Get the fuck out of here. Canonically, he's 25. He's not 25. I learned that this week. He's always 25. He's not 25. It's the mustache that throws you. It's not just that. It's everything. I know. But Canonically, he's 25. He's not 25. I learned that this week. He's always 25. He's not 25. It's the mustache that throws you. It's not just that.

It's everything. I know. But canonically, he's 25. The guys from Nintendo are like, yeah, he's 25. He's not 25. He is. He's 38. Yeah, well, maybe.

Maybe he's lying about his age. He might be. Yeah. Get the fuck out of here with that. So he was originally a carpenter. Was he? Yeah, for Donkey Kong. Oh, okay.

Because he's working on a building site. He's a carpenter. And then he took up plumbing. Now he's a full-time adventurer. Yeah, for Donkey Kong. Oh, okay. Because he's working on a building site as a carpenter, and then he took up plumbing. Now he's a full-time adventurer. Yeah, well, good. And Luigi's mostly ghost hunting these days. Also, I've never seen him plumb anything. You know what's tricking you?

Bob Hoskins. Yeah, it is. You're right. But you're right, though. It's the moustache, the stature. It's the overalls. It is the overalls. They'll age you mad.

They'll age you mad, definitely. What were we talking about? Oh, yeah, Jumanji 3. 25. Get out of here with that. I'd like to see his license. Don't take it up with me. Take it up with the ass of Nintendo Japan.

I will take it up with you. You're the only one here. Okay, I'm going to tweet Nintendo right now. I won't. Yeah. You know what I think also is good about this sequel is The Rock is playing Danny DeVito. Yes. And Kevin Hart is playing Riggs.

Danny Glover. Riggs? Is he Riggs? Oh, he is. Okay Hart is playing Danny Glover. Riggs? Is he Riggs? Oh, he is. Okay, yeah. Danny Glover. And they both are good enough actors that you believe that they're different people. Yeah. And I think that's really impressive. I imagine, speaking

of like them, I imagine they had a great time just getting to The Rock and Kevin Hart got a chance to sort of reimagine those characters. They seem to be having a lot of fun with it, which I appreciate. I think that comes across on screen. I wonder if they did some sort of session where they got The Rock and Danny DeVito in a room together and Danny DeVito would read

all of The Rock's lines and then The Rock would emulate that somehow. Yeah, right. Or if he's just winging it. He might just be winging it. Because there wasn't even so much stuff where I'm like, that's such a DeVito kind of thing. It didn't really even feel like that. It just felt close enough.

It felt like just an old man. You know what I really felt for the characters in this? Explaining. Just if you've ever tried to, like, instruct an old person on how to, like like make a comment on youtube or something or like make it delete a comment off facebook or something like that like just the the intense level of frustration you can feel just explaining how a mouse were like a mouse cursor okay the thing that you move you move it with and that'll correspond to the and then going what i

don't understand just which one am i? Now imagine that level of frustration, but also now that old person is trapped in a fully immersive virtual reality video game that has come out of a cursed board game. Yeah, there's so much stuff you have to explain. And we've been in it before. First of all, you have to explain what video games are. Yeah, that's right. You have to explain a thing they've never used.

And look, I understand that there are plenty of older people out there who are well on top of technology, who are probably way better than us. Definitely. And they're keeping up with the emerging trends. And I'm sure I'm going to be one of those old people who isn't. I'm going to hit a cut-off point. I'm going to stop.

But the characters in this movie are not those people. And they're just now trying to imagine. this movie are not those people and they just just now try yeah try and imagine explain a video game the concept of lives and missions and characters and abilities and maps and and menus and imagine trying to explain the ps4 controller to someone in their 70s who's never seen a video game ever they just they missed it Every button on that thing. Imagine. But then you have to be like, also, none of that's here. It's all in your own mind.

Yeah, that's right. And you have to direct them to do a thing. And it's magic. That you can't do. Yeah, it's magic because they have specific abilities of things that you can't perform. But that's touched on a little bit by those characters, and I definitely fell for it. I've watched that, a little bit by those characters, and I definitely felt that.

I've thought that, yeah. Because half the characters that go into the new Jumanji are the Danny DeVito and Danny Glover's characters, the two Dannys, and the other two are the teenagers from the previous movie. Yes. And I was just like, oh, I'm right there with you. I get this. I feel it.

That's what's going to kill you in this universe it's not giant snakes it's having a heart attack trying to explain what a skill tree is absolutely yeah i also have written here i haven't got much else to say because i don't want to spoil it for you yes but um karen gillian she has it she hasn't she related karen gillian sorry karen gillian she also has a an action scene in this one with nunchucks towards the end, which you missed. Oh, yeah, because in the skill set she's got nunchucks, yeah. She's just very good at that stuff. Yes.

I don't know if she's done it in Guardians or whatever, but it seems like a lot of this you see her face and she's actually doing it. She's just really convincing in doing these kinds of things. You're sure it's not a stunt double? It seems like it's very possible. But either way, whatever they've done here. Whoever's doing the nunchuck stuff, unless they've CGI'd the nunchucks also, what if it's a stunt double and they've CGI'd her face on and they've CGI'd nunchucks in?

What if they've CGI'd every element of Scooby? Yeah, right? She doesn't hit herself once with the nunchucks. Kudos to the visual effects people who are going to get fired after this. That's right. Good for them. I think it would have been easier to train her than cgi the physics of a nunchuck but i you know what i'm i'm excited to watch that dumb things have been spent on cgi when it comes out

on boxing day in australia i'm gonna watch i'm gonna watch it be excited about it okay i do want to talk about the ending i'm not going to talk about the but you know they obviously most or all of them get out of the jumanji right oh? Oh, yeah. The Jumanji-uation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nobody's going to Jumanji now. And then at the end, it's implied, well, it's not implied that some of the Jumanji stuff has started to leak into the real world. Oh, it's a Fallen Kingdom style situation, right?

So what I think is going to happen in the next movie, you've got the teenagers in the real world, and then the video game characters are going to come out of the game. They're going to meet each other. Yeah, and The Rock is going to be the actual hero version of that and karen gillan's going to be that version of that yeah but they're going to be in the real world and what they're going to do is they're probably going to have their imagine trying to explain the real world oh my god see that's fun that's that's very fun and it's going to be because they're going to the video game versions are going to have a third sort of personality type because they're going to be like the Buzz Lightyear

before he realises what world he lives in. Dr. Bravestone is going to be video game, like NPC Dr. Bravestone. That's right. So that's fun. I like it. I think that's what they're going to do. I mean, I based that off like one kind of sequence, this tiny sequence at the

end but when have we ever been wrong good point i've only there was a list we could consult but there isn't one no anyone would seriously damage our psyche and our ability to do this podcast embarrassing we'd have to quit obviously we'd have to quit so i'm glad there isn't one that though yeah so anyway i think that's a good idea because it's like that Jurassic Park situation of like how many times we've gone back to this island. Right, exactly. You can't justify going back in there. We can't justify in-story while they keep building these islands.

Yes, that's exactly it. But also I kind of will miss the Jumanji world because I like – it's a fun world that they're in. Yeah. And then they've expanded it enough in this new movie where there's there's desert and ice worlds and markets and whatever so anyway it's a it's good it's just a it's just a pretty decent franchise at this point it's not like mind-blowing and i think people like well those movies are crap and not whatever but they're exactly what they should be yeah and again like this this is this is good fun

family fair i think you know family fair and then afterwards you if you're a kid you parents take you to this and then they go what was the thing about the video games and you'd be like oh mom or dad you don't get it but i get it just shut up just shut up mom or dad i want them to bring the hunter into the real world in the new one though though. And I want someone to cut his throat. Nick Jonas. That's the character that I identify with, obviously, because we're similar. Don't you think? If I had to identify with anyone in this movie, that's probably the closest approximation. You're more of a Danny Glover type.

I'll tell you that. I thought you were going to say Colin Hanks, and I would not have accepted that. Though, in reality, that is clearly the closest approximation of me in that movie. And even then, I fall well short of Colin Hanks, obviously. That's right. Anyway, next thing, Mason. Yeah, what are we reading?

What are we going to read? I'm doing the thing. What are we reading today? I I put the theme in. And what are we doing? I don't know what he's doing. We weren't doing that before. We were doing it. We were not.

You've thrown me under the bus with my little hand claps. I thought we were going to form a family band like the Partridge family. I don't like them. Wow. I don't like any family bands. I'll do it on my own. Meso's family band. Brackets, just Meso.

So I was going to say, speaking of what we read and what we're going to read, YouTube occasionally sends me, like, recommend, based on your algorithm, like on my phone, it's like, hey, you should watch this. And I've gotten here. It's a promo for NCIS Season 17, Episode 10. NCIS Season 17, Episode 10. Season 17 of Naval Criminal Investigative Services. Is that what it stands for?

Ziva's still in it, evidently, based on the thumbnail. Ziva's still in it. Mark Harmon is still in it, evidently. They're sharing a tender moment, probably in a nursing home, which is where they live now. Because this show's been going for 17 seasons. But you also need to remember that it's the same episode every time. Oh, yeah, sure. So you can jump in at any point.

That is true. Yeah, you're right. Except at one point they'll do a Tinder episode or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Somebody will wind up murdering them. They'll be like, well, it turns out they were big on Zinda, which is the NCIS version of Tinder or whatever, you know? Oh, I know.

So you're going to obviously give that a watch. I'm going to watch that, give that a watch. And look, I'm hesitant to even mention this thing that I watched this week because I figure you and Claire would have covered it on your other podcast, Suggestible. Because I know Claire is a big fan. It's the Michael Bay movie, Six Underground, featuring Ryan Reynolds and some other people.

I started it. And how far did you get? About 12 seconds. Yep. How long did it feel? I didn't even see a person. All right. No?

I just, and I know, look, I know it's one of those things where like if you like that stuff, it's right up your alley or whatever, but he has just, he's taken so much of my time. I just don't want to dedicate myself to it. That being said, like looking at the trailers,

I'm like, it's got some stuff in there that I don't, that I don't mind. The reviews aren't great, but where were you at with it? It's pretty bad. It's here's the thing. It's only two hours,

which is short for a Michael Bay film, but it feels like if you give me the choice of re-watching this or re-watching The Irishman, Irishman every time. Really? This feels longer than The Irishman in my estimation. It just keeps going. Was it action scenes forever? Is it?

No, it's just. Is it Bantz? It's not even action scenes. The movie goes for an hour before we've established all the origins of all the team members. Oh, my God. Okay, so if you haven't. Oh, my God.

So the premise basically is that Ryan Reynolds' character is a billionaire. Great. How relatable. Very relatable, isn't it? But for some reason he's like, well, the world isn't going as well as I think people should do more in the world. And rather than using his billions or allowing his billions to be taxed. Where did he get his billions?

He invented magnets or something. No, he didn't. Which you'll know because if you watch the trailer, there's an action sequence later that involves magnets. There's some big magnets. Does he shout magnets or something? No, nobody shouts magnets. Then what are they even doing? I don't know.

But anyway, what he just- That's the thing that Michael Bay came up with for a billionaire. Magnet inventor? Sure, Michael, fine. He invented all these magnets and they got put in phones and cars and whatever and he got real rich. Anyway, rather than giving his money to charitable causes or influencing the media like most billionaires do,

he decides to build a team of him and five more people who are kind of good at military stuff, and then they just go around. You say kind of? Yeah, kind of good at military stuff. If you were like, and then they go and just do, shoot dictators or whatever, but they're not particularly good at it.

Also, if you were like i think i'll go my entire life without there being a resurgence of parkour you're wrong because parkour is back baby because one of them's a parkour guy i just mentioned in my black widow trailer that i'm like parkour is due for a comeback it's back i didn't think it'd be back this week though well i mean it won't be back after this oh there's one guy who's pretty good and i think michael bay is very proud that some of the sequences in this are real parkour. But bearing in mind, we've seen it all before. I feel like parkour now in movies and TV shows is just a guy quickly going up a wall.

And that's it. They don't make a big deal of it. Well, this guy's definitely like that. I don't think anybody says parkour in this, but he's definitely like that's his one trick because he's a parkour guy. He's got a parkour and then like two separate sequences

in which a big thug guy is just beating him up like holding him on the ground and just thumping him until somebody else shows up and shoots the guy cool that's cool

that happens twice you know they had it in that Brad Pitt Leonardo DiCaprio movie recently Meet Joe Black yeah Meet Joe Black he parkour

Brad Pitt's character parkours over that car in the middle of the street. That's pretty good. Parkour. Parkour. Yeah, you know the bit where he climbs the roof? Yeah.

And he just kind of does it. That's what parkour is now. Yeah. So if you've got a sequence where like an extended parkour sequence. Yes. Who cares? That's true. And it's really interesting.

Like a gunfight in the movie. Like who cares? There's an opening sequence in this which is actually, it's interesting. It's like a car chase through Italy and a lot of stuff goes wrong and there's a. How much do they shout at each other? Oh, all the constant shouting. There's constant shouting the whole time. Every a... How much do they shout at each other? Oh, all the constant shouting.

There's constant shouting the whole time. Every second of this movie is people shouting at each other and being like, yeah, we watch you back. I'm watching your back, but who's the one with the gun? It's this guy. So you watch your back. But then they get together at the end. They're all team members at the end.

They're watching each other's backs. But there's a chase sequence right at the start of the movie and as they were going through it, as the chase sequence is happening, I'm like, man, you watch these movies and they're just charging through crowds or whatever. And it's weird that everybody like knows to get, like they're doing stuff

and they're assuming people are going to get out of the way and nobody gets hit. But then they hit a bunch of people with the car. Like they legit hit a guy and he flips over the car, meet Joe Black. Just a guy. Just a guy. It's not like, it's not like, it's not even Michael.

I would assume that Michael Bay style, it would be like a real asshole on his mobile phone or something like that. It'd be like, yeah, sell, sell. Like it'd be an old school outdated businessman being like, yeah, well, you know, blah, blah, blah. You know, I'm going to buy another yacht on the weekend and then he gets hit by a car and you go, ah, take that businessman.

But it's just a guy walking down the street. They hit him with a car and they go, ah, take that businessman. But it's just a guy walking down the street and they hit him with a car and they go, don't hit anybody else. And he's like, okay. Oh, that's it. No ramifications. There's no ramifications. Like a bunch of people get.

It's interesting that they acknowledge it though. Yeah, right. That's why it's interesting. It's not good necessarily, but it's interesting. Because also like recently there was somebody ran a car down in the Melbourne CBD and hit and killed a bunch of people. Yeah, right.

Because that's what would actually happen. And it's interesting that they put that in the movie and then just went, whatever. Yeah, like a lot of people. I could believe a universe where people do get out of the way. You know what I mean? So that's the Michael Bay. Why fold that in at all?

That's the Michael Bay universe that we know is that everybody at like an outside cafe or something like that sitting at some tables under umbrellas or whatever, when they see a car coming, they all immediately know to just leap out, become stuntmen and leap out of the way. But, yeah, and there's this, you know, they're being chased by a million cars, as you might imagine. Sure.

And everybody's hitting everything and like all kinds of civilians are being hit. He's a billionaire, right? Well, he's a billionaire. Yeah, exactly. He's a billionaire, so he doesn't care, I guess. So if the idea of this movie is, well, yeah, I think billionaires should be out there shooting people up and going on adventures to right democracy.

No, because they're bad at this. This is a waste of your resources. Also, it's interesting that the idea behind this is like, yeah, there's a billionaire out there who's doing some really good stuff. There's no billionaires out there doing any good stuff. Because they wouldn't be billionaires otherwise. They wouldn't be billionaires. They're all just hoarding their money like dragons.

They're just sitting on their pile of gold. That's what's going on. Yeah, you're not wrong. But we need them because it trickles down. Oh, of course. What do you need a billion dollars for? I don't know. Me personally?

Yeah. Lamborghinis? Yeah, Lamborghinis. Stunts. Once you've got like 10 Lamborghinis, how many more? You need the new one each year. You could buy 1,000 Lamborghinis for a billion dollars. Comfortably.

Wait. It's a thousand million, right? Yeah, you could buy at least a thousand Lamborghinis. I mean, that's not what I would spend it on, but yeah. Sounds good. There's not even a thousand available Lamborghini colors. That's probably true. You can't get them custom.

Do you think I should watch this? Like, is it worth talking about more than what you're doing here i don't think it is really okay because because like the way you're talking and describing it to me makes me think that maybe there's some things that we could watch here's the thing i think i think that the trick see i don't know i think the give it watch the first action action sequence but as i was saying before because there's six members you know you know a la suicide squad a la any kind of team movie love it you have to you know you're like well how did everybody get here and then it you know it's yeah it's number one and he's the driver how did he get here and then you cut away or whatever they they intersperse it so sparingly into like

the first hour is plot and what's going on but then then it's also like the origins are interspersed throughout the first hour. So it's kind of- Didn't Rick and Morty recently do a bit about- Maybe. Did you watch the heist episode? No, I'm behind. Okay.

They assemble a squad. Yeah. And they talk about, they make a point in that episode of saying like, it's the least interesting part of a heist movie is assembling the squad because you've got to go through and see everybody's origin. And this movie just sounds like it's just that. Well like it's the least interesting part of a heist movie is assembling the squad because you've got to go through and see everybody's origin.

And this movie just sounds like it's just that for half. Well, that's the thing, and it sort of goes, the timeline is really quite confusing because they keep going, they're like, okay, here's what's happened. It starts off, here's what happened three years ago, and now here's six months ago, and now here's the present day, but now we're going back to these characters' origins, and then here's the present day again.

Do they have different haircuts? No, they all have the same haircut. Every character has the same haircut. Great. It's a mohawk. So don't watch it. Because I wasn't going to. No.

You don't think we could do a thing out of it at all, ever? Not really. You know what? Maybe watch the first car chase just to see if you enjoy that, but it doesn't get any better, in my opinion. Sounds great. In my humble opinion. We're not going to talk about Watchmen this week

because you haven't seen it as of yet. No. We might watch it after this very episode. And then we'll talk about the finale and that next week and what we're reading. Do you want to talk about The Mandalorian? Yes, in our famous segment. Who watches the TV show The Mandalorian?

Parentheses, James Mason, asterisk, Weekly Planet Podcast. Yes. Spoilers, I guess. Yes, spoilers for The Mandalorian. Apologies to our UK viewers, listeners, who cannot view Disney Plus. Just scare. I mean, it's not your fault. Don't get caught.

Don't get caught, obviously. Don't say we did it. No. Because we'll deny it. We would never. Yeah. And we haven't. We faked our own death for plausible deniability.

Six Underground style. We've been dead for three years by the time you're hearing it. We would never. And we haven't. We've faked our own death for plausible deniability. Six Underground style. We've been dead for three years by the time you're hearing this. That's right. So it's a Betray the Team, Assemble the Team, Betray the Team episode. It's definitely better than the previous week. And it's kind of bodily. It's a very bodily episode. They're all bodily though, aren't they? I guess that's true.

He's always at a slightly different location. I think what they're doing is... But this is like we have one corridor and we'll just keep redressing the one corridor as a... And we'll bring in some droids. Yes. I think what they're doing is... But this is like we have one corridor. Yeah. And we'll just keep redressing the one corridor as a... And we'll bring in some droids. Yes. I think what this show is doing is like what Rebels and the Clone Wars and Resistance does.

Rebels is probably a good example of this, where they'll do this kind of... They are... The first series doesn't really build on the lore. Like, it builds a little bit on the lore, but then as it expands, you widen the universe and you bring in more people and it becomes more of one narrative flow and i so i think that's what this is doing because it feels like an episode of like xena warrior princess right or you know that on the poster yeah it's like it's like that it's

like it's like 90s television with 10 million dollars yeah a lot of people have said that by now but it's still what it feels like today. It's just not brilliant, do you think? It's not brilliant, but it is enjoyable, which is probably what I would have said about... This is better than last week's one, definitely. Probably what I would have said about Xenowarrior Princess back in the day. I also think if you get Bill Burr, do something interesting with him. Yeah, give him three guns.

I mean, get him to say some stuff. Also, you know what's interesting about Bill Burr's character is that he was an Imperial sharpshooter, but he's a terrible shot. Even with three guns, three guns blazing in a corridor, he can barely hit four droids standing in a line.

Well, he does it later when they've got his back to it. But yeah, there's a moment where they let the Mandalorian fight four droids and they just watch because they couldn't. How did he even get behind? It doesn't matter. It's not important.

Apparently also you mentioned how much is he actually in the suit. Apparently not as much as I thought. Oh. Apparently he's got other commitments and sometimes he's just not there. You mean Pedro Pascal, not the character of the Mandalorian? Correct. He doesn't pay some kid to wear the Mandalorian. Maybe that's why the character is having so much trouble in fights

because sometimes he has to do other stuff, so he just pays some random villager. It's three Ewoks in the armour. Yeah, right. Stacked on top of each other. Yeah. Okay, right. Which, again, lends credence to a theory that was posited

by one of our listeners that we're going to claim as our own that it might be a lady in the suit. Did you see Tristan? Tristan on, Tristan the Peas on Instagram did some fan art of the Mandalorian as a lady. Woman DeLorean. Yes. Thank you.

A Mandalorian. That's great too. That's really good. I'm going to say a Woman DeLorean. Nice. But I think we're both winners. I think so too. But maybe we'll link that or I'll repost it so people can follow her

and check out that art because it's really good. Cool. I was going to say also congratulations to Manny Garza who did some nice artworks of us, some little fan arts of us, and he got a real commission. Like a band commissioned him to do their logo because they saw this. Awesome. That's great. Yeah, logo because they saw this. Awesome. That's great.

Yeah, right? There you go. Congratulations. See, nobody's wasting their time. That's right. Especially Manny. Manny. Yeah.

Who did not waste his time. That's terrific. That's great. Maybe when he was drawing little pictures of us, he was like, God, this was a waste of my time. This is and continues to be a waste of my time. I finished it. Oh, what a waste of my time.

I guess I'll post it. I guess I'll post it. I guess I'll post it, right? Yeah. I also have been reading Undiscovered Country by Scott Snyder and Charles Soule. Okay.

It's basically where the US has cut itself off from the rest of the world and then for 30 years and then in the future they open themselves up. Okay, but what about in the comic book?

Like this fucking country can so it can be throwing stones macy yeah but um in and uh and then there's an expedition goes in and is it weird yes wait who's the ex ex ex expedition countries okay so like a like a united nations yes of people come in and be like what's this united states happening yeah okay right what's this united states this united states what's this united states happening? Yeah. Okay, right. What's this United States happening? What's this United States of whatever, you know? So this isn't any, like it's kind of genre-y, but it's not, it's sort of real-world-y. It isn't like.

A little bit. It isn't sci-fi. It's a little bit future-y, it's a little bit Mad Max-y. Okay, right, right, okay. This and that. Okay. Would you say it's inspired by, you know, the Japanese, but kind of insular for for kind of a long time?

Yeah, I could see that. Interesting. Now that you've said that, yes, that thing that you said. Undiscovered country, okay. Check it out if you want. Who was the writer again? What have we got? Charles Soule, who did the new Darth Vader run, and Scott Snyder.

Oh, yeah, I like Scott Snyder. Batman, okay, right. Cool, cool, cool, cool. Cool. All right, do you know what it's time for then? Is it time for Letters? Yes. Letters.

Yes. The classic one was Letters, oh, Let cool, cool, cool. Cool. All right, do you know what it's time for then? Is it time for letters? Yes. Letters. Yes. The classic one was letters, oh letters, we love you. Some letters, they're only a day away. I know they're here right now. We're going to do letters. If you do want to reach the show, hashtag weeklyplanetpod. What do you think of that? Yeah.

Or weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com. Yes. So listen up. Do you have some letters or some whatever, Mason? Yeah, this is from Ethan Caron. Hello, Ethan Caron. It says, on the last episode, Mason recommended Intermission, which is called The Irish Trainspotting,

which I hadn't seen at the time, but I have watched it. It's very funny. Oh, good. Should I watch it? Yeah, you should watch it. Colin Farrell's good. I will. Actually, this week I'm also going to watch Seven Psychopaths, which is a movie by Colin Farrell. Oh, I have seen that. yeah you should watch it Colin Farrell's good I will actually this week

I'm also going to watch Seven Psychopaths which is amazing I haven't seen that one it's good anyway he's saying now I'm wondering

is there an Australian movie with a train spotting type of vibe not necessarily about drugs or anything but just like a really dark comedy occult film about 90s 2000s Aussie culture

so I'm definitely down to check it out here's one that I I hadn't I saw this earlier I didn't have one in my mind But I just thought of one Getting Square

Getting Square Is Sam Worthington in that? Maybe Look anything with Probably anything with Ben Mendelsohn in it But the one I was thinking of was He Died With A Falafel Oh yeah yeah yeah

Which has Noah Taylor in it Yes You might know him as the tech guy In the old Tomb Raider movies Yes And Better Things He's in Vanilla Sky Yeah that's right he is yeah Taylor in it. Yes. You might know him as the tech guy in the old Tomb Raider movies. Yes. And better things. And then vanilla sky. Yeah,

that's right. He is. Yeah. And that is sort of about share house living in the nineties. Yes. Like just, it was based on a book by a man named John Birmingham. Who's who started out doing kind of like slice of life,

Australian kind of just suburban stuff, and then he sort of shifted genres to kind of like Tom Clancy techno thriller kind of stuff recently. But this movie is based on that book, and it's basically about like a bunch of deadbeats who all live in like they sort of are all roommates, housemates in Australia in the 90s, and just the weird drugs and booze and... Falafels.

Falafels and cults and all sorts of weird stuff that happens in there. I haven't seen that in a long time. Does that hold up? I saw it quite recently, like in the last year. It's good. Okay. I like it. I'll check it out.

Maybe that one. I always say this, but Two Hands. I mean, that's drugs and underground stuff. And the late great Heath Ledger. Yeah, and Rose Burns in it as well, Brian Brown. It's excellent. It's one of my favourite movies, I watched it recently, I really like it that's the movie that made me say Heath Ledger, he'd never be a good

Joker and then I was wrong no I don't know I love Two Hands, I think it's so good and the soundtrack's great I think it's a terrific movie and it's from 99 so it's right on the cusp of I think I've talked about it before but it is that era of like crime and drugs and King's Cross

which that doesn't really exist anymore. Not in that way at least, you know, because it's just things have just kind of changed. Yeah, right. Yeah. I've got a tweet here from Ali says, or Eli, sorry, who says, are there any Star Wars comics I should read before Tross?

Oh, I was going to say there's a scene in Intermission where Colin Farrell tries to rob a car using a shovel. That sounds good. So, yeah, Eli says, are there any Star Wars comics I should read ahead of Tross, The Rise of Skywalker? Hashtag weekly planet pod on Twitter.

There is one called Journey to Star Wars, The Rise of Skywalker Allegiance. It's four issues and it basically fills in the gap in between. I've read it. I think it's fine from in the gap in between. I've read it. I think it's fine from memory. I don't really remember much about it, but I don't really think you necessarily need to read it. And there's also a book which I've bought and I haven't read called,

um, star Wars resistance reborn, which is again, set in that time period. But I honestly think you don't really need to see. Yeah. It's not occurred to me until we've, you've just talked about it now that I,

I, it, I, I didn't think we'd have to catch up with anything. It's not occurred to me until we've just talked about it now that I didn't think we'd have to catch up with anything. Yeah, right. So I guess the idea, there's no... Because last time we didn't because it was literally

like straight into it. So there's no supplemental material that's like, well, if you won't recognize this character unless you... Yes. Okay, right, right, right. There's also some like,

normally the stuff that really fills in the gaps and spills like the secrets is stuff that they reveal after. Because there's certain things you cannot say, obviously, leading into a movie because you give away certain secrets. Speaking of, there is a series coming out, which I'm really looking forward to, which starts this week. Yeah, it's written by Charles Soule, who did the recent Darth Vader run, which I really liked. And it's up by Will Slinney, I think listens to the show maybe at some time

Hi Will or he has in the past at least with Bye Will Bye we'll see you later Don't let the door

hit you on the arse on the way out Will This is basically the rise of Kylo Ren and his origin story and I'm super looking forward to it and I think the reason

also that it's out this week is because there's stuff in it which spoils the Rise of Skywalker so that's the one I've been and I love everybody so this is somebody on this is something

ideally you should watch you should listen you should read i'll get there yes i'll get there afterwards yes again it could be terrible i'd say it's it's going to be at the very least very good yeah yeah uh here's uh an email from sam jones Crisis on Infinite Earths. Can you talk about that this week? I can talk a little bit about it. I also got this from Dr. Maestro. It says, guys, please watch Crisis on Infinite Earths and touch on the next podcast.

It's been amazing so far. I've seen bits and pieces. I've also seen bits and pieces. I like what they did with the Smallville thing. Did you watch that clip? Spoiler alert. Yeah, so for anybody who hasn't watched this, for anybody who hasn't watched Crisis on Infinite Earths,

the Arrowverse crossover with every DC TV property that currently is and has ever been. Correct. There's an antimatter wave that's going to destroy the universe, and so there are seven individuals that the Arrowverse team have to go throughout the multiverse and find, and they've got to track them down because they're important. And so they're going to all the various parallel universes

that have existed in DC TV, and they go to the Smallville, Kansas of TV Smallville, and they see the guys. Tom Welling. Tom Welling as Superman. So this is post the comic book season 11. Where he's also the Green Lantern or something. Yeah, and in this universe, Lex Luthor, played by John Cryer,

attempts to kill him with a piece of kryptonite. But then we discover that this version of Superman has given up his superpowers in order to become a parent. And then he punches him in the face. Yeah, that's pretty good. It's really great. The reason I think it works is because that version of the character clearly never really wanted to be superman right that was evident in the fact that they took he went 10 years to become superman yeah and then and they barely did it at the end

and he always seemed reluctant to do it so i think it's kind of like this is what this version would want yeah right it's not what every version would want or maybe you know depending yeah but i think it's a really kind of fitting send-off. Yeah, yeah. I feel like the end of the comic book Smallville, there was some multiverse stuff, but this version of Superman doesn't know what the multiverse situation is. Maybe he's faking it.

I don't know. Yeah, he could be. Or maybe it's just they... He just seems very not fussed by... He seems not fussed. Like a guy steps out of a portal and he's like, whatever. Because I think the writers of this crossover have said they've read the comic book Smallville, the continuation of the TV series, so you'd think they'd know.

So maybe it's just a... I think a lot of... Because he just seems bemused and he's kind of playing dumb. Yeah, right, right. Because I think I yelled about how, of course, they're going to put him in the suit because they haven't really done it properly. But I think this is better. Yeah, me too.

I think they did a really good job. What's interesting to me is there is a vast disparity in the sizes of the various Supermen that they don't even try to hide with any kind of... You're talking about the Tyler Ho... Trick angles or anything. Yeah, Tyler Herklin, who plays the Supergirl Superman, he's very Superman.

Having watched most of the episodes with him in it, he's very Superman, he's very charming, he's very kind of comic very Superman. Having watched most of the episodes with him in it, he's very Superman. He's very charming. He's very kind of comic book Superman. To me, he's one of the most accurate comic book Superman. But he is quite small compared to, say, there's a scene where he fights Brandon Routh Superman because Brandon Routh Superman is magicked into evil

by a magic book and they fight. And he is a foot taller. Well, it says here he's 183 centimetres yes when Superman's like 6'4 maybe he's 6'4

yeah so he's and Brandon Routh is like at least 6'2 yeah right so yeah yeah I mean different universes well that's true

I think they just cast him for like Supergirl not thinking that yeah right that this would ever happen and he's getting his own show now and everything yeah cool is he really I think he is that's new information but I like that a lot yeah I'm pretty sure they are thinking that he would still be Superman. And he's getting his own show now and everything.

Is he really? I think he is. I think they're doing a spin-off. That's new information, but I like that a lot. Yeah, I'm pretty sure they are. Maybe we're in a good Superman. Yeah. Not that Brandon Routh. So a little preview.

We did watch Superman Returns this week. Yeah, new Superman and Lois TV series flying to the CW. Brandon Routh is a dead-on Christopher Reeve. Yeah, yeah. I don't love the movie, but there you go. We'll talk about it. I have a renewed appreciation for that movie in some aspects. No, I liked it less.

Yeah, of course. But we'll get into it. Other thoughts about... I do quite like Crisis generally, but it is... I don't know. I feel like there's a lot of set pieces where people charge onto the scene and they're like

who's this lightning guy and then he's like the name's Black Lightning now let's fight for a second because that's what comic book characters do because this is a video game cutscene and then they zap each other and then it's like hey guys let's not fight because it's time to be cool and save the universe and everybody's like good point

let's all team up it is cool again I like i like it is it's the comic books come to life yeah whether you or the cut scenes from injustice come to life exactly what did you think about okay i haven't watched all of it okay right uh so a couple of thoughts would be uh the brandon routh superman i is the brandon routh superman return superman and the the christopher reeve Superman, is he the – because this – Yes and no. He's wearing – you know where I'm going with this.

He's wearing what is essentially the Kingdom Come Superman suit, which is the black and red. But he seems to be in a universe where Kingdom Come hasn't happened yet. No. Well, he wears it because – But Lois is dead. Yes. Right?

And everybody else. Yeah. And because he says he wears it because even the hope still shines through, even in black. Yeah, right. He has that explanation. But he also mentions that Superman 3, he mentions- Do you remember the movie Superman 3?

And Superman Returns disregards Superman 3. Yeah, right. So he's kind of, he's technically the Reeve, Christopher Reeve version. Yeah, right, right, right. And which is the Routh version. Unless Superman 3 and 4 happened after Superman Returns. That's very possible. Right?

Also, where's his kid? Well, yeah, he mentions him, doesn't he? He does, okay. I think he does, yeah. Carry on then. Yeah. Loophole closed. Loophole closed.

Final thing, did you see any of Kevin Conroy's performance as Batman? No. Okay, right. Is it good? Maybe we's performance as Batman? No. Okay, right. Maybe we'll save it for another week. Okay. I mean, he sounds like Superman. Does he look like? He sounds like Superman, but he's really fucked up.

Oh, sorry. I know. He blew it. The one thing he could do. He sounds like Batman is what I'm going with that. But he doesn't look like him? Well, look, spoilers for. Do you want to spoil?

Okay, well, basically, this isn't. Because he's wearing the Kingdom Come kind of brace. Yeah, kind of. But this isn't... I don't think this is Kingdom Come Batman. This is a different version. I don't think... They've never had the guts to put Batman on TV.

Weak. Like comic book Batman or really any... But this is a version that... I don't think it's Kingdom Come Batman, it's a Batman that started killing people, because that was, so it's not Batman Beyond Batman either, which a lot of people suspected it would be, it's a version of Batman where crime,

like he's clearly been broken down, and crime fighting the normal way has eluded him, and now he's just started killing, like he killed a few people, and now he's just killing people all the time, so he and Batwoman have this kind of altercation. Him, Batwoman and Supergirl have this altercation and he's like, get out of my house, kind of thing.

You know? Get out of my bat house. Well, I mean, Batwoman beats him up and then they leave his house. I love it. So he's just a cameo. He's not part of the team of heroes. Oh, okay, right. Probably, because I don't know the finale yet.

We'll probably get some stuff. Yeah, exactly, yeah. Anyway, it wraps up next year as well. Anyways, that's the show, Mason. Do you want to drive us home? Thank you, everybody, for listening. Honk, honk. Get out of the way.

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Probably have some Star Wars stuff. I kind of thought about doing a movie review because I've stopped doing it, but I'm like, I've reviewed all the new Star Wars ones. I should do this one, but I'm just not going to. Wow. I want to save it for this. What if it blows your mind? Then I'll save it for this.

Oh, okay, cool. Very nice. Because I like sitting on my opinions for longer. Okay, but what if it blows your mind. Then I'll save it for this. Oh, okay, cool. Very nice. Because I like sitting on my opinions for longer. Okay, but what if it blows your mind and then your explanation of that to me blows my mind? That's actually a good point. I will do a review. I'll start it right now.

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Star Wars. Send your thoughts in. Star Wars forever. I'm really curious as to what people think of what this is going to be like. To be clear, don't send us any thoughts until we have said that we've seen the movie. Because we don't want to hear about it beforehand. For me, it'll be Wednesday. For me, it'll be a different time.

Hopefully the next day. The next day. But I think in most parts of the world, it's like later in the week. Yeah, right. It might be all. It'll be a different time. Hopefully the next day. The next day. But I think in most parts of the world it's like later in the week. Yeah, right. It might be all right. Anyway, see you guys at a different time. Grab that, Jimmy, guys. We'll see you next week.

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