The Weekly Planet - 317 Best/Worst Of 2019

Episode Date: December 30, 2019

It’s our 2019 wrap up with the best and worst movies, tv, comics, video games from the year. With our patented awards including The Game Is On, Best Hair, Best “The Fucked The Ending” and much m...ore. Thanks for the support this year and enjoy your holiday break you hopefully have. Cheers.Suggestible Podcast: https://aca.st/cf053a0:00 The Start4:12 Suicide Squad reinvention5:44 Daniel Radcliff as Moon Knight8:05 Disney remove same sex kiss10:25 Disney Box Office 201913:04 Rise Of Skywalker Box Office13:40 Cats is being fixed18:12 Best & Worst Of The Year2:07:28 What We Reading/What We Gonna Read2:09:09 Letters It’s Time For LettersJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP Itunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 TWP Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanet TWP YouTube Channel ► https://goo.gl/1ZQFGH Buy Rise Of Skywalker On Amazon ► https://amzn.to/2QbmwGjT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret, the other a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. This episode is brought to you by patreon.com slash mrsundaymovies. It helps support the show, doesn't it, Mason? Yes. And my YouTube channel, which people might not like as much as this show,
Starting point is 00:00:40 but what do you do? Exactly right. Or more. But what are they doing here? I don't know. I say cut out the middleman. Just give us money. Red hot comic book movie news.
Starting point is 00:00:53 Shooting up your butt hole. The Weekly Planet. The Weekly Planet. Welcome back, everybody, to the final episode of the year of the Weekly Planet podcast, where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James Olsen and this is Mr. sunday with me as always is my co-host nick mason for an instant there something you were going through that and i thought you were going
Starting point is 00:01:11 to say the final episode of the weekly planet ever that's right like well this is a fine time to learn this hooray let's go we didn't get a sponsor this week and quite frankly i'm not doing this for nothing you know what i mean no exactly absolutely right. That's absolutely right. That's right. That's right. No free rides. No free rides. It is, of course, our best and worst in kind of awards of the year. We've made it through another year.
Starting point is 00:01:34 Big old celebration. So why not celebrate with one can of Coke that you've opened for yourself over there? I didn't know. You didn't know it was going to be here. You didn't know it was going to be here. I only have one in the fridge and I assumed that you sometimes I bring my own
Starting point is 00:01:47 you sometimes bring your own that's true yeah next time I'll buy a two yours also says share a coke with dad yeah exactly that's another pot shot at me because I'm not a dad
Starting point is 00:01:54 and you're a dad yeah and I hate your dad yeah that's so true yeah yeah and he would never dream of sharing a coke with me he'd be like
Starting point is 00:02:01 no no sir no sir a couple bits of news though up, up top, of course. News winding down this year, I guess. It definitely is, yeah. But that being said, we are also recording this on the Friday because I'll be away for the weekend. So obviously if the big news strikes, we're going to reconvene.
Starting point is 00:02:17 You're going to come back from your holiday. That's right. Drag you out of retirement because it's our last episode. That's right. We'll bring it back just for that one thing. Well, fingers crossed. Fingers crossed a bunch of celebrities die's our last episode. That's right. We'll bring it back just for that one thing. Well, fingers crossed. Fingers crossed a bunch of celebrities die. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:02:28 Or are cancelled. Can you imagine? Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I mean, Kevin Spacey's back, isn't he? Didn't he? Did you watch that video in its entirety? Didn't he do one last year as well?
Starting point is 00:02:37 He's doing it. He's doing. He's settled on a Christmas tradition, which is rather than stay away from publicity forever because of all the horrible things he's allegedly done, he's decided to release Christmas videos sort of in character as his character from House of Cards. But also not enough that you could sue him for it. Yeah, and they're all vaguely threatening.
Starting point is 00:02:59 Yeah. As is the spirit of the season. And also one of his accusers also died like nine hours, committed suicide nine hours after this one came out. Make of that what you will. Yes. I'm not saying he murdered anybody, is what I'm saying, but you don't think that's going to have an impact on the people
Starting point is 00:03:14 that you may have affected by putting things out like that? I don't know. Anyway, it's wild that he's releasing these. Yeah, it's really... I mean, you know what it is? He did imply that he murdered a man. Exactly. What's wild is also that I think it's really, I mean, you know what it is? He did imply that he murdered a man. Exactly. Well, what's wild is also that, like, I think it's just he's got money and he's got nothing to do.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Yeah, right. I think that's what it comes down to. And he's a bad person. And he's a bad person. Does that affect your enjoyment of anything he's in now? It didn't help our rewatch of Superman Returns that we did recently. No, that's true. But I never really liked that version.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Yeah, that's true. You were like, well, this is the icing on the cake. I don't really think I've seen anything that he's in lately. Yeah, I haven't re-watched anything lately. I think I saw, I can't remember what I watched, but it had like, it would have been, it was an Abrams thing, I think, that I watched recently. So it had like the Bad Hat Harry title card,
Starting point is 00:04:00 which is the usual Suspects title card. And I'm like, ugh, this, this hurts. Whatever I'm about to do. Wait, a Bryan Singer thing you mean? Oh, it must've been. Yeah. It could have been that one that they did, the usual suspects, I guess. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:11 Yeah. Yeah. A couple of usual suspects there. Those bloody two, am I right? Yes. They're yuck. Yeah, they're yuck. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:04:18 Yeah. Accused of sex crimes, Mason. That's what I'm saying. That's yuck, in my opinion. Yeah. Yeah. To put it lightly. To put it lightly, yeah. I don't mind, you know opinion. To put it lightly. To put it lightly, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:25 I don't mind, you know, sometimes we say some controversial things on this podcast. We try to keep politics out of it, don't we? And we lose some listeners, but I don't mind losing listeners over the fact that I think sex crimes are yuck. Bold.
Starting point is 00:04:37 David Ayer, though, has talked about the Suicide Squad sequel. Suicide Squad squeak-wall. It's a squeak-wall. It's an Alvin and the Chimbo squeak-wall. Suicide Squidicide Squad squeak-squall. It's a squeak-wall. It's an Alvin and the Chimbo squeak-wall. Suicide Squid the squeak-wall. He says on Twitter that it's not a sequel.
Starting point is 00:04:54 It's a reinvention and James Gunn is going to absolutely knock it out of the park. I'm cheering every step of the way, which is kind of as gracious as you can be. I feel like that's a nice thing to say. That's way more gracious than you need to be. Yeah, definitely. You should have been like, I reckon this one's going to suck. They're not going to hire me again, so this one's going to suck. So, yeah, so, I mean, that kind of confirms what's going on because, again, it's a lot of the same cast.
Starting point is 00:05:13 Yeah, which seems to be, again, it seems to be DC's strategy going forward, just whatever kind of work last time, let's keep it moving. Let's keep it moving. We'll do some of that. Some unconnected stuff, you know. The way that Justice League isn't really connected to the other movies yeah and i and you know and i mean that's that's the comic book way i mean it's interesting that they that nobody did this initially you know it's the idea that well i mean they sort of used to do it yeah with you know your green lanterns and you
Starting point is 00:05:38 what have you but even like the batman movies it was kind of like i'm talking about the burton tissue yeah right they keep some of it. Yeah, I guess that's true. Okay, well, it's a return to form then. Thank goodness. Thank goodness we're back to the 90s. Yeah. That golden era of comic book movies. Oh, my God, I can't wait until the Suicide Squad,
Starting point is 00:05:54 they get in their Suicide Squad van, they get some Happy Meal toys from McDonald's, they get drive-through and they're like, hmm. Terrific. It's a little version of me, Slipknot, the sex criminal who dies Whose head explodes Great stuff Yeah, good
Starting point is 00:06:10 Full Circle Cinema has reported that Daniel Radcliffe Is apparently up for the role of Mark Spector In the Moon Knight Oh yeah Television series on Disney Plus Who is claiming this as a rumor? Full Circle Cinema Never heard of them
Starting point is 00:06:23 Me neither But that's not to say that they didn't say this because they did. I mean, they certainly did. Yeah. What do you think about that? I like it. You can play crazy. People have also talked about he'd be a good Wolverine or whatever.
Starting point is 00:06:33 And he's even come out and being like, I don't want to. Don't know. Don't say that. Well, I mean, you know, Radcliffe is in this position where he doesn't need to work at all. Yeah. To the best of my knowledge. Like, unless he has a number of secret divorces. He of his of his career you know what i mean yeah go any
Starting point is 00:06:49 direction that's right jump off it yeah or do an ollie i was gonna say he could do a 720 off that rad cliff um yeah like i mean you know he's he's one of those people who has enough insane franchise money i assume to do the only things that he's interested in. Yeah, absolutely. So, yeah. He does that show about the afterlife with Steve Buscemi as God or whatever. You've seen that one? Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:12 Well, I've seen a poster for it. It's kind of like a not as good version of The Good Place. Okay, right. It's completely serviceable. There's good people in it. But I guess I also wonder if people in that position are also compelled to do things. Yes.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Like they feel like, well, why not have another successful thing? Yes. Like are they ego-driven? I don't know. But I mean, I also feel like people like Radcliffe or like Emma Watson, who was in the Harry Potter, they're happy to be out. Yeah, absolutely. In a lot of instances.
Starting point is 00:07:40 Yeah, definitely. Anyway, I would say Daniel Radcliffe is my expecter. I guess the biggest problem people would probably have is he's not tall. Yeah, but nobody's tall in Hollywood. No, exactly. That's true. It doesn't really matter. I don't think it really matters.
Starting point is 00:07:54 You get that surgery. I was going to say they could fix his legs in post, but yeah, you get the surgery also. Or just hire everybody short. Stand on some gold and milk crates. Pure gold. Because Harry Potter in the books is We'll stand on some gold and milk crates. Pure gold. Well, because Harry Potter in the books is like 6'1", maybe. Is he really?
Starting point is 00:08:09 Yeah, by the end. Yeah. They're like, there's even. Because they stretch him out. They're like, you're so tall now, Harry. Like, there's lines about that. Okay, right. And then you see Mixer like.
Starting point is 00:08:15 And Hermione, you're so white. You've been so white this whole time. There's been, like, because if you see Mixer like. And trans people don't exist or something in this universe. Rowling said some stuff this week. I don't care. I didn't really look into it. I don't care enough about Rowling.
Starting point is 00:08:29 So just quickly on Star Wars. We talked about last week. We weren't talking about Star Wars. No, we're talking about Star Wars. Oh, my God. I thought last week was the only Star Wars. I think this is kind of interesting because we talked about how they have that lesbian kiss at the end of Star Wars. The last one.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Rise of Skywalker. Good recovery there. Thank you. I knew what it was. Your brain has developed a self-defense mechanism for when you say the wrong name, and it's just to keep on rolling. We were talking about how, because it's not being-
Starting point is 00:08:58 The force is strong in the most recent Star Wars movie. The last Star Wars movie we'll see for a couple of years, The Rise of Skywalker. Perfect. The return of characters you know and love. Yeah, The Rise of Skywalker. Well, we talked about how in China they didn't really, it didn't do well regardless.
Starting point is 00:09:16 Fear of ghosts. Fear of ghosts. The Kiss doesn't really make it. But they cut it out in Singapore. They cut it out in Singapore is the point. And that also, since then, Oscar Isaac has come out and said that, you know, the Disney higher ups were very much like, we don't want to take it this direction for the characters.
Starting point is 00:09:30 So apparently he pushed for it a little bit and they were like, no. I gave them the benefit of the doubt and be like, they're just doing baby steps and they're not doing it to appease foreign entities. But it turns out that's very much what they were doing. Why do I give anybody the benefit of the doubt even for a second i never do that yeah oscar isaac also said i think that when the prequels came out in an interview he said when the prequels were released he and his friends like rigorously practiced all the lightsaber jewels like all the choreography and stuff and then somebody worked it
Starting point is 00:09:57 out that he was in his 20s when those movies were released nothing wrong with that i'm gonna say yeah why don't why not enjoy a delightful hobby involving wonderful choreography? Flacking some sticks together. Flacking some sticks together in a park probably or a garage. The other thing is when we're going to- That means there's probably some footage of that. Like a CCTV. No, I was going to say like on a flip phone somewhere.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Oh, yeah, right, yeah. Some incredibly blocky, grainy footage of them in a garage just fighting each other with sticks. Terrific. Somebody's got that. Somebody's definitely got that. As soon as somebody can unearth that from a box and find a charger that works on it. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:10:32 He's going down. He's going down, that's right. He's cancelled. Yeah, so I think that's kind of a shame that that was the direction it went in, but I'm also, why am I surprised? I shouldn't be, should I? But yeah, baby steps. Benefit of the doubt, the doubt let's give more people the benefit of the doubt currently yeah but as far as we've got some videos this week on the biggest hits and misses of the year
Starting point is 00:10:53 but disney's box offices accounted for 80 of all sales this year that's less than i wait did you say eight or 80 okay well that's that's about as much as i thought i was like eight percent oh good on independent film producers for releasing other things. But you know what's super interesting about this is Pixel Buster put these stats up, and I didn't double-check them, so let's assume they're correct. Let's give the benefit of the doubt to Pixel Buster, a website I've not heard of until this very moment. A Twitter user.
Starting point is 00:11:16 Just like the previous one. Yes. So bear in mind, this year. Yeah, the website, Pixel Buster's Twitter page. Yes. Yeah, the website, Pixel Busters. Pixel Busters. Twitter page.
Starting point is 00:11:23 Yes. So 2014, 15%. 2015, 19%. 2016, 26%. 2017, 21%. 2018, 26%. Then this year, 80%. So what did they purchase in between? It's not a purchase.
Starting point is 00:11:39 It's just this year was like, well, I mean, they have purchased some stuff. Yeah, I guess they have. Well, in that time period, Marvel's gotten huge. Star Wars is consistently pretty good for the most part. This latest one, not as much. I guess they bought Fox. They bought Fox, but I don't think that helped because none of those, I think every Fox property didn't make money that they bought this year.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Right, but I mean, doesn't Fox, at least up until recently, don't they do a lot of indie stuff? Well, not indie, but like Fox Searchlight. Oh, yeah, maybe, but I doubt that's going to dent in Avengers Endgame and Toy Story alone, you know what I mean? That is a massive jump. I don't think it's going to be as big next year because there's no Star Wars movies.
Starting point is 00:12:19 The Marvel stuff they're doing is like there's Black Widow and then a bunch of new properties like Eternals and things like that so it's not going to be as big next year but that is insane yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:12:30 because you remember though like in the early to mid 2000 and teens what are we oh thank god we're in the 20s soon you can finally say it's the 20s
Starting point is 00:12:38 yeah I didn't know what to call I'm going to change my ringtone so it goes I can't wait like I don't like the start wearing hats old-timey hats the aughts the teens what do you one of those collars you know like the starched collar it's really painful to wear you don't like it but you have to wear you gotta have you have to wear it because of
Starting point is 00:12:55 society they'll cancel you they will cancel you yeah anyway i'm just glad it's gonna be the 20s yeah thank god but you were saying back in the teens. Yeah. I think because it was like John Carter and, and like the last remnants of like things they used to make was like the nut cracker from last year and things like that. Oh yeah. Okay. Like people. So we're at the,
Starting point is 00:13:13 we're at the tail end of this kind of, yeah. Let's produce things based on songs and rides. The peak of like Disney, Pixar, and maybe not so much Star Wars profits. Cause that would have been the force awakens, but Marvel in particular, it's got the biggest movie of the year and
Starting point is 00:13:27 so on and so forth yeah uh fx is the veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from istanbul to paris and london one woman has a secret the other a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+. If you want some numbers, Mason, just quickly about Star Wars. Apparently there's been a bit of an uptick for The Rise of Skywalker after Christmas.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Financially? Yeah, it had a bigger boxing day than The Last Jedi, apparently. That's not to say that it could drop off or hold. But that being said, the competition that was going to be cats doesn't look like it's going to be any competition. People have emailed in. They've said, do you guys want to talk about cats? It wasn't out here till yesterday.
Starting point is 00:14:22 Till yesterday. Yeah, I don't get a chance. But I am going to see it yeah me too Claire and I we're going to have a date night where we go
Starting point is 00:14:28 set aside your differences you and Claire you're going to get back together we're reconciled so we're going to see like ruin anything what's the worst
Starting point is 00:14:34 that could happen by watching Cats watching Cats I know I'm going to hate it and I know you shouldn't go into something like that but everything about that is like
Starting point is 00:14:42 you might love it though I doubt it no I think it's going to be one of those I think it's going to be a headache inducing movie that being said i'm wondering what version we get because i don't know if you read this i can't believe they did this so apparently i'm so upset okay so apparently this is the first time i've ever heard about this but maybe it's happened before so apparently the version that was released into cinemas
Starting point is 00:15:00 is now in the process of being patched. Yes. So the version, the initial version that was released, there's like unfinished CGI. Like there's a, there's, there's scenes where some of the characters still have their human hands. Judi Dench has a wedding, her wedding ring still on and,
Starting point is 00:15:18 and just unfair. And apparently this movie was made without tracking dots and it was made without mocap suits and stuff like that. So apparently it's just a nightmare. Yeah. So a lot of stuff, they were like, we don't have time for this and it, and it was made without mocap suits and stuff like that so apparently it's just a nightmare yeah so a lot of stuff they were like we don't have time for this and it hurts to make this so weird that they did it like so they're apparently going to patch all the stuff they haven't finished yet like a video like a video game yeah that was not complete upon release but also how much can you patch in a week i guess that's probably they must have been working on it prior to this so i'm wondering because oftentimes in australia we will get you'll go to the cinema and the most recent trailer for a movie has been released online like a month prior and then and then in the in the when we go to the theater we still get the old trailer
Starting point is 00:15:53 because they haven't updated sorry yeah that's what i meant so i'm wondering like will we get the unpatched version or we get the and i'm hoping for the unpatched version because otherwise what are we even doing exactly look are we collapsing as as a society? Anyone out there, if you work for Hoyts or Village or whatever, and they give you the option to update, don't do it. Don't do it. Don't do it. Quit. Quit.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Quit. Exactly. That's right. Don't do it. Yes. We'd quit if it was us. Yeah. Just know that.
Starting point is 00:16:18 We're with you. Yeah. We would be. Yeah. We're doing this, though. We're not in your position currently, but if we were. Yeah, we'd do the right thing if we quit. So all I know about the director of Cats is.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Tom Hooper. So all I know about Tom Hooper is that he directed Les Mis, and apparently when you're recording music or even for an album or for a movie or whatever, they have what's called a click track, which is basically assorted background cues. It's a person in the background going, click, clack, clickety clack, click, clack, clickety clack. We're a bunch of cats or sad people in France,
Starting point is 00:16:53 whatever movie we're talking about. Clickety clack. It helps. Yeah, and so you know when to jump in. Yeah. So apparently with Les Mis there was no click track, so people would just sing however they wanted to. Yeah, and then they had to do the music around that.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Is that right? Yeah, and so they would have to do the music around that and alter scenes around that, and it was apparently a nightmare. I read an interview with some of the musical people, and they were like, it's so amazing. It was so freeform they didn't have a click track, and we just got to do the music around that a bit later. And it's like, oof. It seems bad. It seems bad bad and it seems like you're covering for the fact that everyone hated this
Starting point is 00:17:29 so so this guy is all about just just free form do whatever you want someone will fix it in post yeah and that's the case with cats evidently because they were talking about when they released that kind of that why are we still talking about this but like the making of because people cats is blowing people's minds it certainly is i hope so look here's the thing my my my feeling for this is i hope i feel something in this movie i hope i'm not just bad this is boring i hope i'm hoping that i go in and it's not just meh i hope i go in and i'm like yeah this is awful like this makes me feel sick that's what i want at least it you know yeah otherwise it's a waste of 20 bucks i completely agree i'm 100 100% with you.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Sorry you were saying. No, sorry. They released that making of it and they're like, we're not using motion capture. This is new technology. And by new technology, you mean a worse version. Yeah. When they say new technology.
Starting point is 00:18:14 Because I think they're like, it's freeing for the dancers because they're not wearing the mocap suits or whatever and the performers. But that's bad. When they say new technology, I think what they mean is more pressure on the visual effects guys afterwards. Terrific. That's what they mean by new technology.
Starting point is 00:18:29 It's a terrible thing. So I was just going to finish up with some Star Wars numbers. The Rise of Skywalker is, yeah, it's performed in the weekend above Rogue One internationally, but also below the other sequel trilogy ones and well above Solo, which did not do well. It nearly made more than Solo in its first week and Solo did in its entirety. So is Star Wars dead?
Starting point is 00:18:53 No. No, absolutely not. For now. But you're at death's door, Star Wars. Not at all. I don't think so. No. Yeah, they'll have to do a bit more than that to drive people away.
Starting point is 00:19:06 Anyways, it is the time of year where we're talking about the best and worst of the year, Mason. There's, of course, Collings put together a list of things that people can go through and vote on. I don't have the results in front of me yet. Message Collings, but it's the middle of the night, so it's not his fault for this. If anything, it's Mason's fault
Starting point is 00:19:22 for not reminding me to message him earlier. Excuse me. Excuse you indeed. Thank you. You're forgiven. Yeah, but I talked about this earlier with him. And these results for what people voted for will go up in the Great Mates group. On Facebook, right? Yeah, on Facebook.
Starting point is 00:19:37 So please, if you join the Planet Broadcasting Great Mates group, it's a great community if you're not there already. And also you can vote and see the things. See the results. See the results. You can discuss why people thought that one was good and not good. That's right. Civility.
Starting point is 00:19:52 Yeah, civility. Yes. Let's start, Mason, with best animated film of the year. Okay, give me some nominations. Give me some nominations. The Lion King. People are like, well, this is technically live action, but I don't believe so.
Starting point is 00:20:04 No. I mean, the first shot is apparently, but the rest of it is not. Spies in Disguise. I didn't see it. Love the trailer. Heads up. If you've never listened to one of our best and worst episodes of the year, sometimes we haven't seen a couple of movies in a particular category
Starting point is 00:20:19 or sometimes we haven't seen any of the movies in a category. Will that stop us reviewing and rating them best or worst? No. And we've definitely forgotten some things. We'll in a category. Will that stop us reviewing and rating them best or worst? No, we'll keep... And we've definitely forgotten some things. We'll crown a winner. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What I noticed about putting this list together this year is there's so much stuff now.
Starting point is 00:20:33 I feel like five years ago there was very little stuff. And that's why I feel like I'd like to do more topic episodes of this show, but there's always something else. There's always some stuff. And it's also, you know... I mean, I'm not saying we'd split it, but we'd maybe have to do something else at some point. Because even a few years ago,
Starting point is 00:20:52 there would be one good thing on Netflix in a year, you know. There'd be one good series or one good Netflix movie. There'd be one Cloverfield movie. That's right. And now there's none. There's none. Bless you, 2019. Yes.
Starting point is 00:21:04 I think that was last year. Yeah, no. Was it 17 or 8? Doesn't matter. So, Spies in Disguise, Angry Birds 2, Frozen 2, Toy Story 4, Lego Movie 2, Batman vs. Ninja Turtles, which I have not seen yet, but people are loving, and Teen Titans, which, again, I have not seen, but people are loving. So what about you?
Starting point is 00:21:24 Of those, I think my firm favourite, but people are loving. So what about you? Of those, I think my firm favourite, probably Toy Story 4. I agree. Because I didn't think it was going to be. I didn't think there was any gas left in the tank of the Toy Story franchise. And it was real good and heartwarming and everybody had a real good time. Inclusion of some new characters that were good. I think also there were some older characters which kind of got a bit short-changed like some of the original characters that's what i want that's what i want to know so
Starting point is 00:21:48 you know what do you what do you do i i i agree i didn't really like frozen 2 very much i quite liked angry birds too okay i haven't seen the first one but i i how did you keep up then i just i mean it's birds isn't it how would you know their relative level of angriness that's a good question and i really wanted to say that's right angriness not of angriness? That's a good question And I really wanted to see That's right, angriness, not anger Angriness birds And I really, I haven't seen Lego Movie 2 There are purists out there and they're like
Starting point is 00:22:13 Angry Birds 2 is not an accurate level of the anger of the birds No Angry Birds 1, nailed it Angry Birds 2 Angry Birds 2, they're just bringing in the broad general audience The true fans know the proper level of anger of the Angry Birds. How angry these birds need to be. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:30 So also The Lion King I did not like. No, me neither. So what do you do? Next topic, Mason. I was going to say, an incredible feat of visual effects and computer generated animation. I don't care about it. But it made a lot of money, right? It did.
Starting point is 00:22:44 An extraordinary amount of money uh so i but batman v ninja turtles and teen titans i also really want to watch though this year i will say there's no into the spider verse there isn't it's true because that because i looked at this and i'm like it's toy story 4 but i'd like spider verse much more than it's toy story 4 because it was the crown jewel of the Pixar treasure room and it's really well made and it's really
Starting point is 00:23:12 well executed but it doesn't blow your mind either. You go oh it's as good. Congratulations on the quality of these movies not dipping at all. Good work. But yeah it's not like whoa you've got to see this right now because it is going to blow your mind.
Starting point is 00:23:27 Absolutely. Last year we had Spider-Verse and that did that. Disappointing. Disappointing. Disappointing animators all throughout the world. Trying your best, working your hardest. Why couldn't you just come up with your own mind-blowing concept and release it in cinemas to critical and financial acclaim?
Starting point is 00:23:42 That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying also. You dumbasses. You dumbasses. You dumbasses. If we got here, the best. There'll be some guy listening to this in an animation studio. He's like, oh.
Starting point is 00:23:54 Unsubscribe. This is the best prequel, sequel, another movie award. Are you ready for this? Okay. Avengers Endgame, Detective Pikachu. Prequel? I guess it's a Pokemon. What's a sequel to the Pokemon, the first movie?
Starting point is 00:24:09 I guess it is. But look, they're blacklisted now. After they copyright struck your Pokemon video. That's true, they did. They robbed me of that bad review. I say no more Pokemon talk on this podcast. Yeah, more like Pokemon. Unless they sponsor us next year for something. In which case, yes, please.
Starting point is 00:24:23 You do have to catch them all. As many as you can. That's right. Charizard. In which case, yes, please. You do have to catch them all, as many as you can. That's right. Charizard. Dr. Sleep. Squirtle. Alchemino. Frozen 2.
Starting point is 00:24:32 Glass. It Chapter 2. John Wick 3. Jumanji The Next Level. The Lego Movie 2. Shaft. Spider-Man Far From Home. The Rise of Skywalker.
Starting point is 00:24:39 Terminator Dark Fate. Terminator 4. Sorry, Toy Story 4. And X-Men Dark Phoenix. I think it's probably safe, but I really liked Endgame in terms of the combination of things that happened prior. Yeah, right, right, right. That being, and working that in really well and like it's fan service-y, but it works.
Starting point is 00:24:59 But I think also you could say the same for El Camino, which came off the back of like all of- Yeah, look, I really liked El Camino, but came off the back of like all of. Yeah. Look, I really liked El Camino, but it's not, again, like a lot of Breaking Bad, it's not something that I enjoy rewatching just because it's all so harrowing and grim in a way. And I enjoyed it, but it did feel like another episode of Breaking Bad, which is always good. You know, I like that world and those. Well, I don't like it.
Starting point is 00:25:23 I hate them. I've seen it. Yeah. I think maybe Spider like that world and those. Well, I don't like it. I hate them. I've seen it. Yeah. I think maybe Spider-Man Far From Home. Above Endgame? Yeah, maybe. Okay. I mean, you know, Endgame delivered everything I wanted.
Starting point is 00:25:35 I guess Captain Marvel should be on here as well, I guess, because it's in the universe. But it's more of a spin-off, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. That's it. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:42 Just, you know what? I think they pulled off the Mysterio. Yeah. Just all the Mysterio stuff. I need to a, yeah. Yeah. Just, you know what? I think they pulled off the Mysterio. Yeah. Just all the Mysterio stuff. I need to watch that again. Yeah, no, it's a good movie. I didn't mind it either. I'm going to say in-game though.
Starting point is 00:25:53 Yeah, okay, fine. Yeah. But just, I feel like, again, you know, in a world of insane visual effects and the world is exploding and helicarriers are crashing all the time. Yes. And we're going out in the universe and there's cosmic cubes and bloody, you know, infinity gems and all.
Starting point is 00:26:11 It's an insane universe just to have a movie set on Earth with, you know, high-tech effects. Yes. To give us some visual effects we hadn't seen before. Yeah. That excited me and we're like, oh, this is creative and fun. Yeah. And comic accurate.
Starting point is 00:26:27 And comic accurate. And, you know, and a good old fashioned Spider-Man adventure. Yeah. Primo. Primo. Good work. Spider-Man Far From Home. I like Spider-Man Far From Home too.
Starting point is 00:26:37 And great performance from everybody, but Gyllenhaal especially. Yes, absolutely. Have you seen, I haven't seen it. I'll get to it at some point. John Mulaney, he's got a kids special. I haven't seen that yet. Is that to it at some point, John Mulaney's, he's got a kids special. I haven't seen that yet, is that good? Well, I don't know. Oh, you just said yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:48 But Gyllenhaal's in it apparently. Oh, really? As a kid? Yeah. Very good. No, as an adult. As an insane, the insane Jake Gyllenhaal that he is. What's in his head?
Starting point is 00:26:58 I don't know. We don't know. He's a mystery, that man. I saw the thing that was like, this is Jake Gyllenhaal from, this is his decade. And it starts with Prince of Persia and ends in him and like, whatever weird shit he's doing now. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:27:11 Like Prince of Persia is like cool and tan and like. Yeah, right, right, right. Now he's just like. Yeah. That's the Mulaney thing, I think. Okay. Oh, that's what, okay. That's what it's from there.
Starting point is 00:27:19 Terrific. As far as reboots go, Mason, best reboot. Okay, I'm ready. Okay. This is what we've got Aladdin Detective Pikachu I thought we were saying
Starting point is 00:27:28 it's a sequel this is outrageous this thing that I helped put together Charlie's Angels Child's Play Jane Son and Bob Reboot I haven't seen it
Starting point is 00:27:37 because I don't know how to yet but I thought it's probably a sequel Masquerading it's called Reboot yeah you're right fine bearing in mind
Starting point is 00:27:44 we're very easily tricked and we take things on face value, so it's probably a reboot. Yes. Joker, The Lion King, Men in Black, Pet Sematary. I guess Dumbo as well, because Dumbo's technically a reboot. What's interesting, I think, about this list is
Starting point is 00:27:57 a lot of these movies I didn't see and I have no desire to see. Yeah, I know, right? There was no real... There was no... And some of the ones that I did see, in retrospect, could have missed out on it completely. Men in Black International?
Starting point is 00:28:10 Yeah. What, you know, loved Men in Black 1 when it came out. And it's also sort of a sequel, I guess. Yeah, and I'd be sort of, you know, in theory, I'd be sort of jazzed to see a Men in Black reboot slash sequel. This was not good. It was forgettable. I hated it.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Two great starring roles, but. It's just a garbage nothing movie. Are we doing best or worst here? What's going on? Well, we're doing best.
Starting point is 00:28:36 Okay. Well, it's the same movies for worst, so we can do it at the same time. I was really surprised by the Aladdin reboot because I thought I would hate it. But that being said, the Joker reboot, if you look at it comparatively to the Jared Leto version, even though I didn't love it, it's a much better version of the character or much more compelling than the previous one. Yeah, right. But I'm going to give it to...
Starting point is 00:29:00 If I give it to Aladdin over the Joker, I'll never let it down, will I? I'm going to give it to Aladdin over the Joker because I'll never let it down, will I? I'm going to give it to Aladdin over the Joker because I cannot wait. I cannot wait for the tweets. It's what I feel in my heart. They always end with SMH when shaking my head. Somebody will be always like, I can't believe this guy is taking Aladdin over the Joker. How can we trust your opinion of movies ever again?
Starting point is 00:29:21 Shaking my head. Bring it on. And you can't. You can't. Bring it on. I think also a. You can't. Bring it on. I think also a big part of that is I had the lowest of expectations. Yeah, right, right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:31 Yeah, so I'll give it to that, whatever. But worst, you know what? I bet I'd probably say also Charlie's Angels was up there because those other ones aren't good either. I hear it's quite good. Yeah, but it didn't make any money. So it doesn't count. As far as worst, I will also say Men in Black.
Starting point is 00:29:49 Even though it's technically a sequel again, it's just crap. Just a crap film with nothing to add to the mythos and it's not fun or funny or interesting. Run through the list again real quick just in case. Aladdin, Detective Pikachu, Charlie's Angels, Child's Play, which is apparently not bad. Jane, Silent Bob, Joker, The Lion King,
Starting point is 00:30:05 Men in Black, International, Pet Sematary. I'm going to say Lion. Pet Sematary is all right as well. Look, I think Lion King. Yeah, that wasn't good, was it? No. And again, as someone who didn't like the original Lion King. But I feel like there was more effort and creativity,
Starting point is 00:30:27 like visually in the Lion King, even though I didn't agree with the way they went, just regular animal faces. I feel like it looks, it's just so cutting edge. And I think I'm selling the people short who did that. Yeah, right. And Men in Black is just kind of like, why did you do this? But then again lion king's
Starting point is 00:30:45 also like that isn't it you know what is happening here is i'm trying to figure out if what happens a lot of the time is often the worst category it's the same movie over and over and over again and i'm like should i waste men in black international on worst reboot when it'll probably be worst movie now you know what you're right i think lion king not good. Yeah. Didn't excite me or thrill me, but at the same time, neither did Men in Black International, I don't think. Yeah, fair enough. It was just the same old, same old. It was just retreading old ground and hoping people still liked that.
Starting point is 00:31:17 And we didn't. We didn't like it. No, you're right. Okay, so it's Men in Black. Yeah. What about this for best- But you're on thin ice, The Lion King. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:31:25 Well, okay. If you re-release it next year, but slightly worse, you're on this list. What about this for best? But you're on thin ice, The Lion King. Yeah, absolutely. If you re-release it next year, but slightly worse, you're on this list. What about this? Best unnecessary live action remake of a better thing. Lion King, Aladdin, Dumbo, Maleficent, Lady and the Tramp. Haven't seen those last two, but again, it's Aladdin for me. Well, I didn't see Dumbo either, actually. I only saw two of these, and I liked Aladdin more than The Lion King. I've heard Dumbo is bad, so I'm going to
Starting point is 00:31:45 give it to Dumbo, I think. Best Unnecessary? Oh, it's Best Unnecessary. Okay, right. Okay, well it's best than Aladdin. Yeah, for sure. Cool. What about this one? This one's interesting because it's Best Non-Sequel or Reboot. Oh, bloody hell. Yeah. Ad Astra. Booksmart.
Starting point is 00:32:02 I Am Mother. I really like that. Did you watch that? It's on Netflix. Is it Robots? I didn't see that? It's on Netflix. Is it robots? Robots somehow. I didn't see it. It's terrific. The Irishman, Jojo Rabbit, Knives Out, The Lighthouse. I haven't seen Jojo Rabbit or The Lighthouse because they may not be out here yet.
Starting point is 00:32:18 The Lighthouse is not out until next year. Right. It's probably a DVD screen. Jojo Rabbit just came out. Biola Cancer is very good. Do you have more there? Yeah, sorry. Marriage Story.'s probably a DVD screen. Jojo Rabbit just came out. Biola Cancer is very good. Do you have more there? Yeah, sorry. Marriage Story.
Starting point is 00:32:28 I didn't enjoy that. I liked it, but yeah. Okay. That's not the benchmark. It hit a little too close to home. It did, Mason. Because people are always looking at you going, is he good looking or not good looking?
Starting point is 00:32:40 Is James Goodwin such a... I do get that. People are like, your head is weird. There's something about you I don't like. You're not unappealing, but there's just something there. I think we've definitively decided that Adam Driver is good looking. 100%. That being said, this week you released a video.
Starting point is 00:32:59 I think it's a Star Wars Easter egg. It's a Rise of Skywalker Easter egg video, and you have chosen a thumbnail photo of Adam Driver and he's looking like a wet blobfish in the rain. You could not have picked a less flattering picture of Adam Driver. Well, I read somewhere that the thumbnails with faces that like emote get more clicks. I don't know whether that is true. I don't know whether I've gone the wrong direction there.
Starting point is 00:33:21 I mean, who was writing that advice? More successful YouTubers than you were trying to trick you. A lot of the wrong direction there. I mean, who is writing that advice? More successful YouTubers than you who are trying to trick you. A lot of the YouTube stuff, it's like, this is how you get clicks or whatever. And it's like a dude who's got like a million subscribers, but like 2,000 views a video or whatever. Do you know what I mean? Can you buy YouTube subscribers? You can, but also you can.
Starting point is 00:33:39 How many have you bought? All of them, Mason, obviously. That's good. Obviously. Good. Once Upon a Time in Hollywood was still on that list. Parasite, Us. I really loved Parasite.
Starting point is 00:33:49 I actually just recently saw Parasite. What did you think? Yeah. I liked it. It's a very interesting movie. I think we could have maybe dedicated a whole episode to it if we'd seen it in time. Well, let's do it now. Yeah, let's do it.
Starting point is 00:34:01 Let's give it 30 more seconds. No more awards. Because you talked about it a few episodes ago, I think. And I think your takeaway from it was kind of, well, it looks, you know, the rich have problems as well. You know, it's an interesting take on how we're all kind of the same. Did I say that? You did say something like that.
Starting point is 00:34:18 I don't think I said that. My takeaway from this movie was I think all the working class should team up and eat the rich. That's my. I'm fairly confident that wasn't my takeaway. Okay. Let's go to the tape. movie was i think all the working class should team up and eat the rich that's my that's my i'm fairly confident that wasn't my takeaway right okay let's go to the tape i think it's all problems all problems are relative but rich people are cool and fun wow i did say that yeah yeah it's also a beautiful movie yeah right the house i don't know where i should look into it but like
Starting point is 00:34:44 the house they film in i assume that's a set it is a set everything about the everything about that movie is a set uh they there's a scene in pat so if you haven't if you didn't listen to the episode when we talked about parasite so it's a it's a a very kind of down and out working class family one of them gets a job tutoring a rich family's daughter and then they sort of connive to sneak all the other family members into the house in pretending they're not related as in various other roles and they kind of you know they push out the family's chauffeur and they push out the family's housekeeper and they sort of get in there and um there is a scene it's kind of a slow start and then it all kind of kicks off yeah but
Starting point is 00:35:25 there is a scene when all the family members are hiding under a table yeah they built the table specifically like width and length so four people could uncomfortably hide under it that's pretty the whole thing is yeah okay well that makes a lot of sense to me but uh yeah and it's about kind of i feel like it but it's interesting though because the poor people in this and i know they're scrabbling to like for position and just to get anywhere in life because their house and situation sucks, but they're not good either. Oh, no, they're not good. So you're not really like, who's good in this?
Starting point is 00:35:54 But what turned them not good? But also what's interesting about this family is they are all immensely skilled in one way or another. Yes, that's right. One of them is a really good driver. One of them is amazing at forgery. Yeah yeah but i think that's also like there's the way you often get ahead is you have money and you know people yeah for sure you can be good at stuff and it doesn't necessarily well again there's a there's a there's a there's a moment in this movie
Starting point is 00:36:16 where somebody says oh if you want to get a job you know you know the lowest rung in the totem pole you get in there and there's 500 people with with university degrees in front of you kind of thing so you're right. And they're all heavily in debt from university. Yeah, exactly, yeah. But, yeah, it's a movie that starts – I went in not knowing anything really beyond the basic premise. Yeah, but you've really given a lot of that away here, haven't you, Mason?
Starting point is 00:36:38 No. You dog. But, yeah, it's very interesting. Like I think it could also kind of end up in the horror category. Yeah, right. Yeah, I could say that. Yeah. But I'm going to say it's not.
Starting point is 00:36:50 I'm weighing up between Iron Mother, Knives Out, Parasite. Those are the three for me. But that being said, I could easily see Jojo Rabbit being something that I love from what I have seen of it. Yeah, right. But I'm probably going to go with Parasite. Okay. I really liked Knives Out as well. Knives Out is a good movie.
Starting point is 00:37:07 Knives Out is also a crowd-pleasing movie, which is not a bad thing, I think, because it's like a British, it's not British, but it's like a British murder mystery, Poirot-esque kind of tale. You know what I did today? Not today, like a week ago, I went to myself, you know what, Knives Out was great, love a good murder mystery, I'm going to watch Murder on the R&D Express,
Starting point is 00:37:29 which I saw on Netflix only recently. I added it to my list. It's got Daisy Ridley in it, you know, Star Wars. Star Wars? It's gone. It's gone. I thought you were going to say you loved it. No, it's gone off Netflix.
Starting point is 00:37:39 Yeah, well, you thought about it. That's your problem, Mason. Yeah, that's my problem, yeah. You had to stumble across it by accident. Yeah, right. Next up, we've got the best horror film. I've seen more of these than I thought, but are you ready? Yeah, ready. thought about it that's your problem yeah you had to stumble across it by accident yeah uh next up we've got the best horror film i've seen more of these than i thought but are you ready yeah ready uh ready or not don't know what that is it's a blast it's a woman on who on her marriage day
Starting point is 00:37:54 has to play a family marriage day marriage day okay i was gonna say birthday but i went with marriage day right i thought i saved it you could have just let it go uh she she's on a marriage day just to play uh because she's on her marriage day She has to play Because she's from this She marries into this family Of very well to do Board game creators Okay
Starting point is 00:38:11 And so everybody who marries in Has to play this game Right To become part of the family And often it's like It's knots and crosses It's whatever Okay
Starting point is 00:38:20 It's tic-tac-toe But she gets Hired from the family While they try and murder you So Oh okay And so she has to do that And then Because they think it's this It's tic-tac-toe, but she gets hide from the family while they try and murder you. Oh, okay. And so she has to do that because they think it's a family curse and that's how they got their money. If they don't do it, they'll explode.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Wait, so previous people married in have just had to play tic-tac-toe? Yes. At the very start, you get one that was the other one from, like, the 80s where somebody was also murdered or attempted to be murdered. Oh, I see. So every couple of generations. It's like a box of cards and you just don't know what you're going to get,
Starting point is 00:38:49 essentially. Oh, okay. And it's fucking insane. And it's great. Did this get a general release? Yes. All right. Yes.
Starting point is 00:38:56 Ready or not. Smallish release. I saw it, didn't I? So it got a release. Okay, right. On the internet. On the internet. No, no, you can go and see it.
Starting point is 00:39:04 Or you could go and see it. Midsommar. Did you see that? Didn't see Midsommar. It was very unsettling and good. It Chapter Two. Saw that. It was alright.
Starting point is 00:39:13 Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark is apparently quite good as like a children's spooky thing. I didn't see it. Us was five? I have a lot of questions. Okay, if this were a debut, if we didn't have Get Out before us, would you be like, this is incredible? Or would you be like, this premise is muddled? Yeah, I'd probably be more like that.
Starting point is 00:39:33 Brightburn? Mm-hmm. Happy Death Day 2. Wait, because it's not a horror movie? Yeah, because it was not as good as I would have wanted it to be. Okay, right. Happy Death Day 2U, which is, again, a really fun horror movie. This one's kind of back
Starting point is 00:39:45 to the future 2-esque you're in a real horror movie kick yeah yeah there's been some good stuff doctor sleep i really wanted to see but did it get a release here it did yeah it did but it didn't it bombed hard okay uh and i trapped the devil which was an indie film which is about a guy who thinks he's caught the devil in his back in his basement and then he has family come over and he's like i caught the devil and they're like you've gone mad but maybe he did catch the devil oh interesting it's really good as well so but i'm gonna say ready or not okay because it's just a blast and all right it's like the best kind of schlock you know what i mean and the lead's really good okay all right it's just just really liked it there you go but i also I also really liked Eye Trap the Devil.
Starting point is 00:40:26 Well, I'm going to say it chapter two because it sounds like it's the only horror movie I saw this year. You saw Us. I did. But you don't want to say Us. You saw Brightburn. I did say Brightburn. You know what?
Starting point is 00:40:34 I didn't mind it chapter two, to be fair. It's not as good as the first, but it's okay. I like Brightburn because I enjoy, I think, because we've reached the level of comic book saturation that they've taken it and they've taken it, James Gunn's taken it and turned it, he didn't direct it though, he produced it? They've taken it and they've turned it
Starting point is 00:40:54 even though it's struck out to be one and done I feel like I would like to see more in that universe, it's very much in the vein of the comic book Supreme Power which is like Superman but he sucks, he's Superman but he gone wrong, which is like Superman, but he sucks. He's Superman, but he gone wrong. He's gone wrong.
Starting point is 00:41:08 He's not right. I would like to see another version of this. We might even, no. Maybe a grown-up version or an older version of the Blackburn Kid. Well, they hinted Justice League at the end. Yeah, see, that's what I want to see. That's how they get me. That's how they get me. They said we might get it because it did not great,
Starting point is 00:41:23 but maybe well enough, but it's super low budget. We could see an animated version. We could see a comic book version. So this one I've moved up because I want to talk about it before we name all these things on here. Okay, I'm ready. But this is the That Came Out This Year award. Okay, right.
Starting point is 00:41:40 I'm ready. Here we go. Doom Annihilation. Yeah. Look, I knew that was coming out this year. That doesn't surprise me. But it did come out. It did come out this year. Didn't get Doom Annihilation. Yeah. Look, I knew that was coming out this year. That doesn't surprise me. But it did come out. It did come out this year.
Starting point is 00:41:48 Didn't get a chance to watch it. Yeah. It's probably on YouTube. I want to squeeze it in before we do because we've got Doom in the can for Caravan of Garbage. Yeah, right. Because we recorded it before the game got delayed. Glass came out this year. I believe that.
Starting point is 00:41:59 That was our first or second episode this year, I think, yeah. Captain Marvel feels like forever ago. It really does, yeah. Charlie's Angels. Are we rating these on how... The rating isn't the quality. It's really. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:11 Okay, cool. Absolutely. Charlie's Angels. I feel like that just happened. Yeah, we knew that happened. Jalen Silent Bob. Well, that didn't come out this year, for us at least. This is interesting.
Starting point is 00:42:19 Jessica Jones Season 3 or The Punisher Season 2 came out this year. No, they came out 100 years ago this very day. Shazam. Yep. Us. Velvet. I should have done this up top. Velvet Buzzsaw.
Starting point is 00:42:36 Is that the Gyllenhaal one? Yeah. Okay, yeah. And Bird Box. I don't care about Bird Box. Bird Box also came out in December. That was a test. Because I had to look it up and be like, did that come out this year?
Starting point is 00:42:45 Okay, right. So some of these awards are also traps. Yes. They should do it at the Oscars. They should come out of the Oscars and be like, and this year the award goes to, you all voted for this movie, but surprise, it came out last year.
Starting point is 00:42:59 We tricked you all. Everyone who voted for it is being executed. Here's your comeuppance, Hollywood. All the chairs are electrified. I'm going to say Captain Marvel because, boy, did it come out this year? You're mistaken. Yeah, agreed. It was March, I think, as well.
Starting point is 00:43:17 But I think because so much in Marvel has happened since. That's true, yeah. And not just movies but just announcements of shit. It just feels forever. And also I haven't rewatched it. I just movies, but just announcements of shit. Yeah. It just feels forever. And also, I haven't rewatched it. I'm feeling woozy just thinking about it. Maybe it's because I haven't had any caffeine, James. Yeah, well, you know, maybe you should come prepare.
Starting point is 00:43:33 No, I hadn't. I had coffee earlier. Okay, good. We could pause if you want to get a Coca-Cola. From where? That can? No, no, this is mine. Okay, no, I'm okay.
Starting point is 00:43:43 There's no time. There's more awards to get through. You're right. What about this? I've changed this to video game adaptations as opposed to movies because there's one in here that's a, at least one in here that's a show. The Witcher. Seen any of that yet?
Starting point is 00:43:56 Haven't seen it yet. You're saying schlocky though. I don't mind it. Doom Annihilation. Okay, right. Detective Pikachu. Sonic, brackets, delayed. Like, is that the best one. Okay, right. Detective Pikachu. Mm-hmm. Sonic, brackets, delayed. Like, is that the best one?
Starting point is 00:44:08 Yeah, maybe. And Final Fantasy XV, colon, episode, arden, dash, prologue. Hate it. What is that? Is that a CGI animated? I assume so. Final Fantasy XV adaptation? Okay.
Starting point is 00:44:25 I'm going to give it to... I haven't seen any of these. I'm going to give it to The Witcher. Well, you've seen Detective Pikachu. I have seen Detective Pikachu, yeah. I think it's probably the best video game movie. Yeah. I think Tomb Raider, the last one, is my favourite video game movie still.
Starting point is 00:44:42 Yeah. Did that come out this year? I don't think it came out last year. What was the first one you said? The Witcher. The Witcher. I'm going to give it to that, even though I haven't seen it,
Starting point is 00:44:52 because it's something to look forward to. Maybe I'll watch it today, you know? Yeah. I'll watch it today, and I like Henry Cavill, you know? This one is interesting, because I feel like this had a spectacular year. And again, Detective Pokemon is not a Melville house.
Starting point is 00:45:07 I feel a lot of people went into that and went, oh my God, this is so, it feels like home, this movie. And I'm like, this feels like somebody else's house. I'm going to rob it. I'm going to take all the cokes out of their fridge. Yeah. Give one to me, maybe. Oh, nah.
Starting point is 00:45:22 It'd be the nice thing to do. You'd be the better man. That's true, I would. Deliver it off my high horse. Yes. This is interesting because it's best streaming. Okay. Always be my maybe.
Starting point is 00:45:34 And I think there's just some great stuff this year. Some of my favourite stuff this year. That's solid funny. It's not spectacular. It's a good movie. But it's good. I agree. Bandersnatch, which I guess is technically a movie.
Starting point is 00:45:43 A lot of people hate that. I think it's fine. I think it it's good i think you're an idiot that's unrelated i was gonna say why bring that up now i thought to myself uh dolomite is my name is excellent that's a good yeah that's a it's it's it's feel good but it's rude it's rude. There's dicks in it, maybe. I don't think there is. Maybe there isn't, yeah. El Camino, again, I really liked. I Am Mother, I really liked. The Irishman can fuck off. Marriage story. We've all come to a consensus on the Irishman. Get out of here, the Irishman.
Starting point is 00:46:19 It's not that bad, but fuck off. Is this real or did somebody Photoshop it? Did Martin Scorsese's daughter wrap all her kids' presents in Marvel wrapping paper this year? I have no idea. I think I saw it. It might be a fun Photoshop, but it might also be real, and that's fun. Marriage Story and Velvet Buzzsaw, which I still haven't seen. So I'm going to give it to I Am Mother because it's in all my lists of everything,
Starting point is 00:46:44 and I feel like I'm not going to give it an award. So I'm going to give it this one. Okay, good. You said Bandersnatch. What did you say after Bandersnatch? Dolomite. I really like Dolomite is my name. That's a great performance from Eddie Murphy.
Starting point is 00:46:53 Yes. People seem to hate Bandersnatch, but you know what? And I'm probably not going to play it again, watch it again, play it again. But in retrospect, and that, again, I don't have a lot of nostalgia for things, but I think British video games in the 80s. Oh, my God, that's your jam.
Starting point is 00:47:08 That's my jam. You probably would have got some magazines brought back from overseas from an uncle or something, right? Oh, my God. But just, oh, anyone out there, if you read Britain's own computer and video games magazine, CNVG from back in the day. Oh, my God. Did you read Mean Machines?
Starting point is 00:47:24 I bet you did. I didn't read Mean Machines. Hit at me on Twitter. I've seen Mean Machine the movie with Vinnie day. Oh, my God. Did you read Mean Machines? I bet you did. I didn't read Mean Machines. Hit at me on Twitter. I've seen Mean Machine the movie with Vinnie Jones. Oh, yeah. Is that the same? It's the same thing. Cool.
Starting point is 00:47:32 Man, just the British video game industry in the 80s. That's where Charlie Brooker started. That's what I'm talking about. Just strong and accurate and just it's the best possible version of what that is we'll ever see. Agreed. It'll never be better than this. I will not.
Starting point is 00:47:51 Everything after this will be much worse. I do not disagree. So thank your lucky stars. Yeah, I don't disagree. When the next big one of these comes out, you'll be like, man, I wish we had Bandersnatch. Yeah, I agree. I said that at the time.
Starting point is 00:48:01 I think these are the best people that could make something like this and it's serviceable. I think I'd like to see this cut together as something coherent. I'm never going to watch it because I've seen it all, but I think I would have preferred that. I wonder if that has had – I'm going to look it up later. Somebody's done it. What's that?
Starting point is 00:48:16 I'll recap. I was going to say I wonder if there's been more revelation since we – like have people found more stuff in that game since? Maybe the next thing popped up on twitter and people stopped talking about it that's almost certainly because again this would have absolutely been a nomination for this came out this year did it was it 2017 you know maybe it was the end of last year maybe it might have even been december okay i made a mistake but let me check that in that Well, in that case, if it came out in 2018, then I'm giving it to Dolomite. All right, here we go.
Starting point is 00:48:48 Yeah, it was. It was December 28. Okay, all right. That was Collings' era, not mine, I assume. I have no authority to fire you, nor would I. Because you're great. You do a great job. We really appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:49:00 Here we go. This podcast would be a sinking ship without you. Agreed. But you're on the thickest of ice, colleagues Oh, colleagues You've got so many chances Oh my god You're on your first warning of literally thousands
Starting point is 00:49:14 He's just messaged me I bet it's something nice Oh, he sent through the list He did, yeah But I can't Oh no, he has He sent it through I can go through these at the end
Starting point is 00:49:21 How about that? Because they're in a different order So I'll do them at the end Or should I leave it for the great mates group? No, let's do it Okay, we'll do these at the end. How about that? Okay, let's do it. Because they're in a different order. So I'll do them at the end. Or should I leave it for the great mates group? No, let's do it real quick. Okay, we'll do it at the end. So this is best TV show. Watchmen, Catch-22, which I feel like just disappeared,
Starting point is 00:49:33 but I really like it. I saw it on a work list. Came out this year? Yeah. The Boys, Fleabag, Chernobyl, Umbrella Academy. I feel like there's got to be more on here than that. That's a good list too. Black Mirror, Crisis, which I haven't seen all of,
Starting point is 00:49:46 Game of Thrones, Stranger Things, The Witcher, I think that's, and probably The Mandalorian, I assume. That's a good list of good stuff. I agree. I know Mandalorian is on here. He did put it on there. Oh, my God, his ice is even thicker. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:50:00 How does he do it? I don't know. He's good. It's 100 feet of ice. Right. I really liked Fleabag and Watchmen and Catch-22. I also love the boys. I like a lot of stuff.
Starting point is 00:50:12 Yeah, right. The boys in any other year. Like you go five years back, it's the best show of that year. I think so too. Yeah. And I like Fleabag a lot. Watchmen I did not expect to like at all. I'm like, this is going to...
Starting point is 00:50:27 See, I did think I would like it because of who was involved. And I still loved it. Well, I never finished The Leftovers. So the bad taste in my mouth is from Lost, I would imagine, or everything. Every bad TV decision Lindelof and Abrams made in the early 2000s, I'm like... They're still paying for it. Yeah like we're still paying for it yeah
Starting point is 00:50:45 they're still paying for it i'm like i'm not gonna like this yeah but and also you know the idea that you could make anything on the scale of the original watchman yeah on tv and it's original content and make it good at all i'm like there's there's no way anybody's going to do this, but they have, so congratulations. And again, I don't feel like maybe they 100% stuck the landing on it, but I think that's probably because, especially towards the end, like the quality of the episodes for me was so high, and just the setup and the payoff over those episodes. Again, payoff, that's what i did not expect on any level
Starting point is 00:51:25 i did not expect any payoff i think lindelof just pays stuff off off now because after loss you know what in hindsight it's not all his fault because he was given like well that's true like make this go for seven years and just yeah you know i don't know if lost was intended to go as long as it did or surely not no i think they're just used to everything just being cancelled to like get as much of this out there as we can. Yeah, right, right, right. I assume. I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:51:47 But I'm going to say Fleabag because Fleabag is terrific. British TV is good. Sometimes. I think having lived there, Mason, me, we get a bit of a buffer between us and them. So, like, it's not all good. What about Geordie Shore, though? Yeah, that's pretty good, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:52:06 It's pretty good, isn't it? Yeah. What about Coronation Street? Which one's that? But it's pretty good. I don't know. Is that the one with Dave Lister in it? I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:52:14 Yeah. Because, you know, he's in one of them, isn't he? Is he? Yeah. Let's look it up. It's not that one. Okay. It might be another one.
Starting point is 00:52:19 Look up Craig Charles. Because that's his name. That's his name. They're filming a Red Dwarf movie at the moment, actually, for streaming, for Dave, the streaming site. You know what's interesting? That they've never gone with the comic book version of Red Dwarf. Rimmer was always in black and white.
Starting point is 00:52:36 I think we've talked about that. They tried to do it. They looked at it, but for the special effects, it would have been... Even modern, even the modern... Oh, no, I think they just locked into it now. Okay, right, okay. I'm not surprised because that was... He was in Coronation Street. There you go even the modern. Oh, no, I think they just locked it. Okay, right. Okay. I would, I'm not surprised because that was,
Starting point is 00:52:46 he was in Coronation Street. There you go. Righto. Like recently? I think he came back. Oh, right. Wow.
Starting point is 00:52:52 In 2005. There you go. And he's, and then he left in 2015. There you go. So maybe. There you go. Oh,
Starting point is 00:52:58 he, in 2010, his character was involved in the show's dramatic 50th anniversary tram crash storyline. Oh my goodness. It's right up your alley. The 50th anniversary of a tram crash? Or to commemorate 50 years of Coronation Street, they had a big tram crash,
Starting point is 00:53:14 which is what they'd always wanted down the pub. Yeah. Anyway, Fleabag's great. And I think this is because the second season came out this year, and I think it's better. It's at least as good and it's different than the first season yeah right there and i actually because we did our best of stuff this year and i avoided kind of like the bigger stuff on here on uh suggestible right we talk more about it and we talk about more kind of indie stuff and i talk about comics and stuff and that as well but
Starting point is 00:53:37 i would link that below if people want to check that out what did so what are you going to say i can't remember what i said now uh watchmen. I said Watchmen. Good work, everybody. What about worst TV show? I avoided bad things this year. Me too. Mine's blank. So I guess it's Game of Thrones.
Starting point is 00:53:57 Just because they boned the ending? Okay. What does Collings put in there? There is one here. I left it blank, so I assume he left it blank. Anyway, maybe let's just skip it then. I can't think of any terrible TV. It was all good, yeah. Just don't watch it. I mean, there definitely is, but we didn't watch it.
Starting point is 00:54:10 And the benefit of TV being bad is you can just watch the first one or ten minutes of it and not. You haven't bought a ticket and you're crammed into a cinema. I definitely did that a few times. Even things that are good. Like, I think I've started Peaky Blinders like three or four times. This one is Best they fucked the ending oh yes
Starting point is 00:54:28 here we go oh yeah I've got the nominees right here that's great what do you got oh do you want to read them out yeah Game of Thrones
Starting point is 00:54:33 final season Star Wars yep The Rise of Skywalker Marvel Netflix any of the Marvel Netflix X-Men Dark Phoenix
Starting point is 00:54:41 okay Marvel Netflix I don't think it's their fault and did it really end or did it just stop? Yeah, well, exactly. Wasn't the last one pretty consistent, those last two years? I feel like, yeah, Punisher was consistent.
Starting point is 00:54:52 I feel like Daredevil was always consistent. Yeah, I think they're just done, I guess. They're not doing them. They're not doing them. And Dark Phoenix, what do you expect, right? That's best case scenario. Yes, that was exactly the level of quality I was expecting. So I guess it's Game of Thrones, Star Wars.
Starting point is 00:55:12 I also put on, it's not really the ending. I'm going to save that one for later. I put on another one, but it doesn't count. Game of Thrones or Star Wars? I think it's Game of Thrones. Look, I think, look, they definitely handled it really poorly. I can see where, I can see how they wanted to get... We can spoil Game of Thrones at this point, surely.
Starting point is 00:55:31 No. I feel like I understand how they wanted the characters to end up. Yes. And given another season or two seasons, I feel like they could have gotten there legitimately and in a way that was narratively satisfying for all the fans but in and in rushing it like it was it was an absolute failure of execution here's what we here's what we want everybody to end up how can we do that
Starting point is 00:55:56 in as little time as possible in as few episodes as possible turns out just knock it out they can't and they can't do it and that was really disappointing so they could make a star wars movie they got kicked yeah right and so and so in terms of that absolutely ruined that but as someone who's not invested in game of thrones yeah right i feel oh these are two things you're not invested in right fascinating i feel like i'm more invested in star wars especially after the last jedi okay i'm like it would have been really nice to have a payoff to for me personally that was of the same level of quality as the last that movie is supposed to cap off nine yes from like 42 years ago right so i guess in that respect and we can spoil we're going to spoil all of these we should probably say that up top but like i really didn't like some of the stuff they did in that
Starting point is 00:56:42 movie yeah right i feel like as a but i didn't hate either of the stuff they did in that movie. Yeah, right? I feel like as a... But I didn't hate either of these, really. Right, uh-huh. But they fucked the ending, Mason. Yeah, they really did. I feel like just as the culmination of 40 years or whatever, it was a real fizzle. I know X-Men Dark Phoenix was a fizzle,
Starting point is 00:57:00 but I knew it was going to be a fizzle. I guess to some extent I thought I knew Rise of Skywalker, to me personally, was going to be a fizzle. It guess to some extent I thought I knew Rise of Skywalker, to me personally, was going to be a fizzle. It wasn't what I was going to want out of a Star Wars movie. But I feel like they really, they course corrected so hard that it didn't feel like, for me it was just going through the motions. And that's not what I want from a big finale. No.
Starting point is 00:57:20 If you're going to do fan service, do it hard. Yeah, absolutely. Don't half-ass. The whole thing felt half-ass to me. Okay, so Star Wars for you? Yeah, Star Wars for me. Well, then I'll say the other one, whatever the other one was that I said. How are we going to saw this award in half?
Starting point is 00:57:33 Yes. What about best I had fun with it movie? Okay, what do you got? Terminator. Okay. Hellboy. Yep. Shazam.
Starting point is 00:57:40 I think I had a lot of fun with Hellboy. Me too. Yeah, I think, I thought Terminator 4 was well made and the best Terminator product. It also might be Terminator 3. Yeah. Oh, it's Terminator 6, isn't it? I said 4. Well, it's 3, 6, yes.
Starting point is 00:57:53 Yeah, right. I feel like even though it was well made and it's the best version of that we've had in many years. Yeah. I don't know if I did have fun with it. Yeah, fair enough. Was it fun, that movie? I mean, maybe fun doesn't necessarily mean like this is a fun movie. Okay. But it's just like I enjoyed it for what it is. I don't know if I did have fun with it yeah fair is it fun that movie i mean maybe fun doesn't necessarily mean like this is a fun movie okay but it's just like i enjoyed it for what it is i don't know if
Starting point is 00:58:09 i had fun i think it was pretty well put together and there were some funny moments in it sure i think the action was pretty solid but it never felt fun to me yeah and there was some like the new john connor i never really connected with yeah i didn't even mind the choices of killing off spoilers like certain characters from the saga because, let's be honest, they were never going to get Edward Furlong back. And I hate saying that because he's had his troubles and whatever. But you really think they were going to hire Edward Furlong to come back and be John Connor?
Starting point is 00:58:39 And I guess they could have recasted as they always do. Okay, so you said Shazam and... Terminator, Hellboy, Shazam. I'm going to say Hell'm just like hellboy 100 yeah and again it it's it's interesting to me that people dislike it so much like the four first 40 minutes are pretty like more than good yeah but then it's like the editing's a little bit all over the place i feel like but i don't know just in terms of i think i think david harbour was a good hellboy after the initial shock that he doesn't look like Ron Perlman anymore, but I think this particular version of Hellboy wouldn't have meshed with the world we got in this new Hellboy.
Starting point is 00:59:12 Yeah. The Perlman one was too clean and polished, and I think this one works in this. It's a way more grimy world. I love the giant fight. Yes. I love the fact that he's having a tough time of it. Like he's kind of, you know, he's.
Starting point is 00:59:26 Lobster Johnston's in it. In it. Yeah, exactly. He's quite vulnerable. I enjoyed the mishmash and the weird folkloric culture. Yeah. In this movie. Witch woman.
Starting point is 00:59:36 Witch woman in it. Yeah. But then there's the weird goobly monster. You know the one you could, it would spit up a spirit or whatever. That's right. I don't like that at all. No, that was bad. It's not perfect No for sure
Starting point is 00:59:46 It's far from perfect Yeah for sure I think it is And again having We re-watched the original Hellboys They're very They're very of their time Yes
Starting point is 00:59:56 Like superhero movies Of their time I think I think people will turn around If anybody ever watches New Hellboy again I think some people Will turn around
Starting point is 01:00:04 They should have called it New Hellboy They should have just They should have called it New Hellboy. They should have just... They should have called it New Worse Hellboy. Yeah. Really hamstrung. You know what you're getting. Yeah, I think Harper's good.
Starting point is 01:00:12 And again, I think maybe I mentioned this in the review. I feel like the previous two Hellboy movies have achieved some sort of mythic status because they were directed by Guillermo del Toro, who's done The Shape of Water. And also they're like 15 years old now. Yeah. And I feel like people are like, well, this is no those two movies.
Starting point is 01:00:30 And I'm like, those two movies are a little. I think it's closer than you'd think. Yeah. These are a little bit Men in Black, the first two. Yes. In retrospect. And I think this one is of equal quality. I don't care who I offend.
Starting point is 01:00:42 You must care a little bit. Of the ten people who saw this movie, five of whom didn't like it, I don't care if I offended you. You must care a little bit though, right? Sure. I don't care who i offend of this you must care a little bit 10 people who saw this movie five of whom didn't like it i don't care if i offended you you must care a little bit though right oh no i feel like when they people these people start coming at you then you'll care and you'll be apologizing i can't believe you liked new hellboy new worst hellboy smh maybe an animated gif of somebody shaking their head you know know? Definitely. What about this? Best streaming service. This is a new one. So we've got Disney+, Netflix, Amazon, Stan. That's a very specific.
Starting point is 01:01:12 We could also do Hulu and HBO, but we don't have those. Well, I've got one of those. Oh, hello. But it doesn't mean anything. Somebody stole it right for himself. Yeah, I steal things. Actually, it's not. I work around current Australian government regulations.
Starting point is 01:01:24 Wow. I know. Okay, Disney+, not. I work around current Australian government regulations. Wow. I know. Okay, Disney Plus is great if you love The Mandalorian. Yeah. And it'll be great when The Mandalorian finishes and you love assorted Marvel series. I think it's good that it's all on there, but I don't think I've ever watched anything else on there.
Starting point is 01:01:39 That being said, I think as far as a Disney collection of things, it is incredible. I just don't care. I just don't care. I also don't care. You're right. We were going to do an episode where we kind of did a deep dive on like some forgotten gems in the Disney, on the Disney Plus archive. And so I went through and I put together a list.
Starting point is 01:01:56 And there is some good stuff in there. But I'm not going out of my way to jump on there and watch a classic. I watched some of the Rocketeer the other day. It's pretty good. I like it. It's kind of hokey, but it's fun. Yeah, I agree. Amazon does some good stuff.
Starting point is 01:02:09 It's got like Martha Smith Maisel. It's got The Boys. It's got The Tick. You know what it also has? It's got a terrible search function. Oh, my God. You're off the list. You're off the list, Amazon.
Starting point is 01:02:17 I don't know what yours does, but on my TV, if you start typing in a word and you pause briefly, it locks up while it searches for like the partial word you've put in. Just give us a search. Nothing happens and you do a search. None of them are as good as Netflix. No, that's true, yeah. Stan, which is an Australian one, which I think is pretty solid.
Starting point is 01:02:35 They took all the Disney stuff off there, but there's still stuff on there, which is worth seeing. But it's Netflix. It's Netflix. You've done it again, Netflix. It's not just the sheer quantity of it. I mean, because there's a lot of crap on there, but despite losing all the Marvel stuff and all the toy stories and all the Disney and all that stuff, there's, there's
Starting point is 01:02:53 a lot of originals. There's a lot of good movies this year. Some good movies. There's at least three good movies this year. I feel streaming services in general are still like the show, like that Paul Rudd is a clone one. There's like, there's the comedy specials there's just a it's obviously different from region to region but i think even if you went originals alone yeah there's quite a lot of good stuff i
Starting point is 01:03:14 think so too yeah well i mean and also they have like a decade decades worth of advantage yes exactly good for them i agree but i think it's gonna might be different next year when disney put on a bunch of their Marvel shows and a new Star Wars show and whatever else they're working on. And I know they've got other originals like High School Musical and whatever, but that's not for me, so I can't. In good conscious, vote for those things. What about this, Mason?
Starting point is 01:03:39 Best murder mystery. We've, of course, got Knives Out. And we've, of course, got the movie Murder Mystery starring Adam Sandler. Adam Sandler and Jennifer Aniston. There's probably another one in there, but they're really the ones I remember. Didn't say it. Murder Mystery is completely serviceable. It's got Luke Evans in it, right?
Starting point is 01:03:54 It does. It's, honestly, if you want something, like, light, it's, like, it's breezy and it's got some okay jokes. It's pretty good. But Knives Out is 100 for that. Okay, right. Yeah. But not to look, if Knives Out wasn't on this list, this would definitely go to Murder Mystery.
Starting point is 01:04:12 Great. Good for Murder Mystery. Sure, it's the other one on there. Also, wasn't there Killing Eve this year? I don't watch that though, but I guess we're talking movies, aren't we? Is that about murders? Probably. Yeah, but there's no mystery.
Starting point is 01:04:24 I mean, Eve kills everybody. Yes. Wait, or Eve does... I don't know. Don't tell me, Mason. I haven't seen it. Somebody's murdered. There's an assassin in it.
Starting point is 01:04:31 Okay, cool. You know she's doing all the assassining, so don't even worry about it. Okay. Is it time for this, Mason? Oh, yes. Best movie where the game is on? Absolutely there is, yeah. Okay, let's do it.
Starting point is 01:04:42 And then maybe after that, I've got an award that I'm going to present. I would love that. It's a new one for this year, for 2019. Okay, let's do it. And then maybe after that I've got an award that I'm going to present. I would love that. It's a new one for this year, for 2019. Okay, here's what we've got. Terminator Dark Fate. Okay. Hellboy. Brightburn.
Starting point is 01:04:54 Yep. Alita Battle Angel. It's not as clear cut as it has been in other years. Now, so for people who don't know. I think I've puzzled this out. So this is the award for the most ham-fisted attempt to build up buzz for a sequel or a franchise. And in past years... I'm a big B.
Starting point is 01:05:10 In past years, and I think maybe it's tapering off because of the number of times in Hollywood that it has simply not worked. You mean every time? Every time. So in the past, we've had Dracula Untold. The founder. The founder of this.
Starting point is 01:05:22 We've had Independence Day Resurgence. Yes. We've had other crap The Predator Oh yeah that's right The Mummy Oh my god that was a That was a sweeper last year
Starting point is 01:05:31 It just swept so many awards Best Worst game is on Worst movie Worst action movie Worst reboot or sequel Worst movie that's got a pedophile in it It just got them all
Starting point is 01:05:43 The Predator Kevin Spacey predator movies that year yes this this this i don't think there's anything this year no it is as bad bright wait you know what i'm gonna add one actually go ahead right burn you're gonna say bright moon definitely sets it up but it might get a sequel so yeah and look this this award is a little bit murky definitely like if some people would be like oh well, well, Star Wars is going to set up a thing. Well, yeah, but I mean, they're going to do another Star Wars. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:06:08 Or like Captain Marvel. Yeah, we know, but there's going to be another. It has to be a massive swing and a miss. It really does. Terminator Dark Fate, I feel like also it is a continuation, but it also works as a contained movie. I agree. If there's never another one, that's...
Starting point is 01:06:23 You're not going to be like, what happened? They built enough safeties into the narrative to be like, well... But that also might be that I don't care about what's left in that universe. Because they did set it up, but it's also like, I don't... Again, I like Brightburn, but I feel like I want
Starting point is 01:06:40 to... Here's another factor we don't factor in. I want to see a sequel to that. And we may or may not get it but i'm i'm i wasn't like oh they're gonna do justice league they're gonna do evil justice league they're obviously that's not gonna but i i want to see that so it's out of the running i think uh hellboy feels like it could continue yeah but it didn't feel like it didn't cliffhanger and it kind of ended on a joke of like, what's going on next in this universe? So that's why I have to say Elite of Battle Angel. For one, it made $400 million worldwide and it cost $200.
Starting point is 01:07:12 So if you do marketing, it wouldn't make money. People are calling for a sequel and being like, well, instead of seeing Captain Marvel, see Elite or whatever. Remember there was that campaign. There's talk of a sequel, but financially you cannot make a sequel to this movie. And the reason I say that it's The Game Is On is because they hired Edward Norton to be the villain.
Starting point is 01:07:32 Oh, he is. You only hear his voice, right? Oh, well, you see he takes his goggles off at the end, maybe. Oh, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you're like, oh, that's right. And you're like, is that Edward Norton? So that, to me, is like, we've got Edward Norton for the sequels.
Starting point is 01:07:44 Yeah. He's a taste. Yep. Come back next time. Okay. And we're going to end. Norton for the sequels he's a taste come back next time so that's why I think it's a leader battle angel I think it's probably also a leader battle angel there's one that's missing and let me know if you think the game is on because there's some reasons why it also
Starting point is 01:07:58 might not be the game is on Glass, is the game is on with Glass? because if the game is on at the end of Glass, they're like everybody in the world has seen these amazing heroes do amazing feats of superheroism. In a car park. In a car park by sort of shifting a car slightly to one side and being drowned in a puddle.
Starting point is 01:08:17 But the whole world is going to see it, and the whole world is going to be inspired to perform their own feats of heroism, and all the heroes in all the cities are going to arise. And that secret society won't even know what to do with themselves. Exactly right. They're going to have to hire out a restaurant to cry in. That's right.
Starting point is 01:08:32 How do you feel about that? I think that was more kind of – I see what you're saying, but I don't think it intentionally sets up a sequel. I think it's more like a message of hope for this dumb thing. Yeah, right. But I see what you're saying. If you picked that, I wouldn't – But also Shyamalan is anybody going to...
Starting point is 01:08:48 I mean, you could say the village is like, the village is the real world. They're going to go to the real world, you know what I mean? Yeah, I guess that's true. Yeah. Like at the end of Sixth Sense, is he going to do more sixth sensing?
Starting point is 01:08:57 He's going to have a seventh sense. Yep. You know what I mean? It's a good joke. That's right. It's not, I'm sorry. Yeah, I think, okay, you're right. I didn't hate Alita.
Starting point is 01:09:06 Yeah. Like if you look like between that and Predator, and I know a lot of people really loved it. Yeah. But I think just the fact that they were like, get ready. I think for the most part it's pretty, I thought I was going to hate it, but I think Alita was pretty well put together. Yep.
Starting point is 01:09:19 The visual effects look good. The cyborg designs are good. Yeah, that I really enjoyed. Like the Ed Sheeran cyborgers. I think it's narratively it's pretty generic, but it's based on a manga and an anime. So, I mean, there's only limited places there that we can go. I don't think it's hugely,
Starting point is 01:09:39 even hugely thrilling in like the action sequences or anything, but some of the, you the you know like the so jai courtney is in it the roller derby whatever like that's pretty boring but i think i remember some of the fight sequences are pretty solid i remember christopher waltz barely holding a giant oh you had a big mallet gas powered hammer or something but i didn't buy even for a second but i think the the very idea of like we we're approaching the end and you're like, oh, she's not going to get up into the city in the clouds and defeat the elites.
Starting point is 01:10:09 We're going to need another two hours for that. And you are going to be 100% on board for that. I don't want it. Yeah. I don't think they're ever going to make a sequel.
Starting point is 01:10:17 But then again, maybe it'll be one of those Tron things where like in 20 years they're like, or Blade Runner. Like this has got enough of a following for us to make a sequel to this
Starting point is 01:10:24 that won't make money. Okay, so I have won my Blade Runner. Like this has got enough of a following for us to make a sequel to this that won't make money. Okay, so I have won my one award. So this is, it's only got three nominees. I love it. Okay, so this is the inaugural Weekly Planet Find and Replace Award. So this is the award for the most generic script that was punched up with a brand name. So of course in this one,
Starting point is 01:10:42 so we've got a terrorist attempts to enhance himself with nanotechnology or something and also there's a virus, but also it's fast and furious. So that's Hobbs and Shaw. Right, yes. An ex-soldier, his surrogate family gets in trouble with some cartels
Starting point is 01:11:00 and he has to kill them all, but also it's Rambo. Okay, I was going to say, is that John Wick? Is it? I don't know. Maybe, but also it's Rambo. Okay, I was going to say, is that John Wick? Is it? I don't know. Maybe we've got a front runner here. Okay.
Starting point is 01:11:09 And a man is downtrodden by society and he reacts violently, but also it's the Joker. Is it John Wick? No, it's Joker. Wow, yeah, okay. I've also written The Irishman here, but that doesn't count. You've just written The Irishman? I've just written The Irishman.
Starting point is 01:11:22 I was just thinking about bad movies and I went, I'll just chuck The Irishman in there again thinking about bad movies and I went I just chucked The Irishman in there again I like the idea of Soldier of Fortune nanobot something something and then it's
Starting point is 01:11:30 Fast and Furious because I mean it's always nanobots and it's always the world's gone too far and I'm going to cleanse it of this and that and whatever
Starting point is 01:11:38 would you have watched that if it wasn't Fast and Furious fuck no would you have watched The Joker if it wasn't Joker? Yeah, maybe.
Starting point is 01:11:47 Maybe. Okay, right. Because I think I would have been more compelled by like the performance is what drove that movie for me. And to be clear, this award isn't – look, I understand that they probably built probably Joker and Hobbs and Shaw from the ground up to be those movies, like in a part of the franchise or a DC comic book movie.
Starting point is 01:12:08 I didn't like Joker. People are pretty clear. I thought Hobbs and Shaw was pretty average. I think for me it's going to be Rambo because to me I would not be even slightly surprised if they just sent a script to Stallone and it was just generic he's a scribbled old soldier and his family's in trouble and he has to go and fight it yeah fight some bad guys hey have we done a rambo in a few years we haven't okay just put rambo in it so sure actually
Starting point is 01:12:36 yeah because how many of those that have been an old guy who's dragged back into whatever everything he's done in the last 10 years i mean not only him only him, but like other actors. Oh yeah, Lee, Neeson and all those guys. Yeah. Every single, yeah. Did Neeson do a movie this year? He did Cold Pursuit, which is apparently quite good. Okay, right. Yeah, where he gets snow justice.
Starting point is 01:12:53 Oh. Yeah. I'm getting snow justice out here. That's his catchphrase. I love it. Until he gets it to the end and then he's like, I'm getting some justice. Some snow justice? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:06 I don't have a catchphrase for what I got justice, all right? What do you want? Collings has been kind enough to actually put the images in here and this really helps. Oh, is this best hair, best wig? Best hair, best wig. So if you are doing this survey, we've got Adam Driver in Marriage Story. I would say Adam Driver across the board.
Starting point is 01:13:21 In terms of hair. You can pick any of his hair. Okay. Brad Pitt, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, Chris Evans, Avengers Endgame, wig, but still counts, Jake Gyllenhaal in Far From Home, Henry Cavill's behind-the-scenes Justice League mustache leak,
Starting point is 01:13:34 Henry Cavill's wig in The Witcher, Simba in The Lion King, and Tom Holland in Far From Home. Is that hair or wig? That's real. Okay, that's real. Okay, right, right, right. I think it's Adam Driver.
Starting point is 01:13:45 Can I say something controversial? What's that? I don't like his hair. What. Okay, right. I think it's Adam Driver. Can I say something controversial? What's that? I don't like his hair. What? I don't like his hair. What? What? What?
Starting point is 01:13:51 What? What? I think it's objectively bad hair. What? Yeah, that's right. He uses it to cover his ears. I don't like it. It's multi-purpose.
Starting point is 01:13:57 Why can't I see his ears? Because his hair's over it. What are you hiding, Adam Driver? His ears. I don't like it. Okay, well, what are you going to say then? Oh, man. It's some good hair this year. They're great. I like Gyllenhaal's hair, but maybe it's is. I don't like it. Okay, well, what are you going to say then? Oh, man. He has some good hair this year.
Starting point is 01:14:07 They're great. I like Gyllenhaal's hair, but maybe it's just that I like Gyllenhaal. You've got to look past that. But he's also, in that movie, his hair is quite versatile within that movie because he's got a good guy version of his hair, but then he's got slicked back turtleneck hair. Michael Douglas. Yeah, so that's pretty good.
Starting point is 01:14:21 I like that. Man, I mean, Henry Cavill, he's doing double duty. I don't like his Witcher hair, I'll be honest with you. I don't think it suits him. No, it works better in the fantasy element of the show. But it's not the best. His moustache double combo does suit him. I think that's terrific.
Starting point is 01:14:37 But I feel like that's last year's news. Yeah, I mean, it's behind the scenes. What do you mean, two years ago's news? We're just as good. Yeah, but it's his fallout It's his fallout mustache Look if they release that this year I think it's way better
Starting point is 01:14:50 What do you think of Brad Pitt's hair It's good Yeah it's a pretty good solid hair He's pulling it off And he's still got it He's still got it for a man in his 50s I mean it's almost certainly like dyed and bleached And like tussled
Starting point is 01:15:04 Evans has always got great hair but it's always a wig But he's still got it for a man in his 50s or whatever he is. I mean, it's almost certainly like dyed and bleached and like tussled and all that. Evans has always got great hair, but it's always a wig. It's always a wig. But he's still got it, doesn't he? I mean, that's what this award is about. It's the best hair on screen. Yes. It's not whether it's real or not.
Starting point is 01:15:15 I like the way you're dedicating the time to this. Me too. Simba, that's well put together fake hair, isn't it? I agree. That's the most. Look, I won't. Also, is that Simba? Or is it another line in that movie? I mean, it says Sim in that movie i mean it says simba at the top yeah look i'm gonna go with i'm gonna go with
Starting point is 01:15:31 gyllenhaal because i think that's that's some versatile hair within the movie within the movie yeah i appreciate that i mean evans did have young man hair old man hair yeah and he probably also had he also had uh avengers era hair yes 2012 Avengers era hair, which would have been different. Yeah, he did. Oh, he had that and he also had like, because he had longer hair. And he had the beard probably. Or did we see him just, I think we don't see it and he's shaving it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:54 Okay. All right. I'm giving it to Gyllenhaal. Also good stubble. Great stubble. He looks like a grizzled hero until he looks like a slick Wall Street guy. I'm going to go Adam Driver, even though you've seen it. Time will tell.
Starting point is 01:16:09 Time will judge me, the villain. Yeah, time will judge you, the villain, I think. Yeah, you'll be like, what was I thinking giving him this award? And you'll go to his house and he'll be like, give us the award back. And give me your hair. Yes. What have you got in there? What do your little ears look like?
Starting point is 01:16:24 So there is another option, but for worst hair slash wig. It's only your guy. It's only your guy, right? It's that side on picture of his hair. Yeah, I've seen it. I'm looking at it right now. It's still funny to me. Because everything about it is like it's trying to be cool and edgy,
Starting point is 01:16:42 but it sucks. Like it's feathered in a way that you care about it, but it's supposed to be like that you don't care. It's just the dumbest fucking haircut I've seen in maybe 20 years. And I understand the context of it. Yeah, I know. That's also funny to me. He's getting in with the Japanese, whatever they're called.
Starting point is 01:17:04 What are they called? The Yakuza. The Yakuza, right. And I understand that, but like. Is he trying to throw them off? I know. We know you're not Japanese, they'd say to him, to Hawkeye. Your name's Clint Barton.
Starting point is 01:17:16 You gave us your name. Not even the tattoo's fooling us. You have the sleeve tattoo, the whole thing. I know, right? Oh, my God. Do you think the next movie that he's in will have him getting a laser off? Maybe, yeah. In like Tony Stark's lab, he's getting the tattoo taken off.
Starting point is 01:17:31 Maybe, yeah. He looks like a guy who dies by putting a bunch of firecrackers in his ass at like a barbecue by a lake. Do you know what I mean? No, absolutely. It even looks, this photo here, it looks like he's at a lake house and he's put them in his butt and they're lit and he's like, am I making a mistake here?
Starting point is 01:17:51 No, I'm cool. This will be legendary. And then he explodes. Incredible. All right, good work. It's so bad. Like that's like the predator in terms of like, there's nothing even close to that.
Starting point is 01:18:03 Yeah. Like just not even yeah like wet dry up down it's just it doesn't look bad in any it doesn't look good in any situation you're right yeah why did he do it even look at it and i know we're talking about this a lot but you know what would even work better just take the back bit off if it was just the top of this just the hair on the top of his head skunk fer a skunk mullet. It's a skunk ferret situation, yeah. The fact that he's got a skunk mullet is, he's, imagine. The fact that that movie doesn't end with his, he sees his wife again
Starting point is 01:18:35 and she doesn't point at his head and go, what? Somebody in that family isn't like, what? I know you've done a lot of weird stuff in this gig you've got. Yeah. That is, you've gone too far. Terrific. Yes. Anyway, this is a bit self-indulgent, but the best meme or thing Mason loves.
Starting point is 01:18:52 Okay, what do we got? We've got A, A, A. That's what I decided. Oh, yeah. I went, A, A, A. Big Sandwich. Mm-hmm. Bob Iger is Mason's dad.
Starting point is 01:19:01 Yep. Defenders of the Earth. Mm-hmm. Defenders of the Earth. Defenders. Got him, Mason. Yeah, we got him. Right now.enders of the Earth. Mm-hmm. Defenders of the Earth. Defenders. Got him, Mason. There we go. Right now.
Starting point is 01:19:07 Out of the sky. There you go. There you go. Yeah, yeah, nice. Yep. Different Pants. Oh, yeah. Is it Dune or Dune?
Starting point is 01:19:14 This must be nonsense if you've never heard the show. Or even if you have. Guy who doesn't know what Star Wars is. Yep. Guy who knows everything about anime. Two of our famous characters. Yeah, yeah. I don't know what to do.
Starting point is 01:19:25 The thing they cut out of X-Men. Milkshake Song. Oh my God, it's the Weekly Planet. Raw Bat, Bat and Bat. That's a good one. That's a good one. Star Wars News. Trailers Ahoy.
Starting point is 01:19:36 Tram Memes. Or Yes and No. No Context. Look, on the one hand, congratulations. I feel like this is to you. Look, not being self-indulgent but the idea of everybody everybody especially
Starting point is 01:19:48 got together on like Twitter and Instagram and Facebook the Planet Broadcasting great mates group everybody was so talented and put together so many funny tram memes
Starting point is 01:19:55 they were just if you haven't seen them join the group and look up tram memes because you'll see them people really went all out in the creativity so I'm going to give it to that
Starting point is 01:20:03 but I just because the listeners were so good and funny with all those. But I enjoyed Big Sandwich just because we got some free content from your kid. Free content, yeah. We monetized him finally. That's right, yeah. Yeah, I quite like Big Sandwich as well. I mean, how can I?
Starting point is 01:20:19 You know what the secret is? They're not even that big. He thinks they're big. Don't tell him. I mean, comparatively. He thinks they're big because he's a little man. But we'll never tell. That's right.
Starting point is 01:20:28 Or he's going to be like, this is just a regular sandwich. Yeah, and then he'll leave with a bindle. A big bindle. A big, regular-sized bindle. Best video game. I don't know what you played this year, but there's a lot in the list. I haven't played a bunch of those. But Jedi Fallen Order, Ape Escape, which I really liked on Switch,
Starting point is 01:20:50 where you're just an ape escaping a building, smashing people. Control. I like Control more than you did, I think. Yeah, an Untitled Goose game. But the game I put the most time into was Ape Escape and Jedi Fallen Order. And I know Jedi Fallen Order is not perfect, and this can be a bit janky. And I'm annoyed that I finished it and there's not combat arenas you can just do.
Starting point is 01:21:10 You can just hone your skills because you have to go to planets. Because at the end of God and War and that, they're like, no, you've unlocked this arena where you can just, waves of troopers come at you and you just kill them. I would love it if you could just do that.
Starting point is 01:21:21 And you can't redo the last mission, which was my favorite mission in the game, because it dumps you back in the world before that. I see, right. So if they updated, and I also don't want to go back to the very start because I don't have all of my powers. So that aside though,
Starting point is 01:21:32 I just really enjoyed like the story and the gameplay and the lightsaber combat. And yeah, I really liked it. I really liked Fallen Order as well for all the reasons you mentioned. Thanks. But I also liked, and I didn't play as much of it as I'd like, just in terms of the world i really like control yes i think i feel
Starting point is 01:21:49 like maybe and this is odd to say because it's a video game i didn't i i feel like the combat was kind of samey yeah right but i mean that's most video games certainly and and i i kind of felt like i was maybe getting through the combat just to get to the story. Yeah, right, okay, yeah. But, you know, you can crank it down to easy. Yeah, definitely, yeah. So that's what you can do. But I just, I really enjoyed the world and just the dream logic
Starting point is 01:22:15 and the concepts of the game and how objects were imbued with power in the game and, like, the origin of the weird universe we were all in. Yeah, cool. That was good. Okay. And Ben, you're going to go back to it? Yeah, I think I will, yeah. Cool.
Starting point is 01:22:31 Some other ones on there if people do want to vote. There's like Apex Legends, Borderlands 3, The New Call of Duty, Death Stranding, Disco Elysium. I hear that's really good. Fire Emblem, Gears 5, Luigi's Mansion, Mortal Kombat 11, which I'm waiting for them to like do it all and then I can just buy it all at once. Platinum Edition or whatever it is, yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:47 Outer Wilds is apparently incredible or is it the Outer Worlds which also came out this year. Pokemon Sword and Shield. Resident Evil 2 I didn't really like because it was like, I liked it because mechanically it's way better but it's also like get the key to get the code to get the key to get the code. Have you got the key? Well here's a code.
Starting point is 01:23:04 Here's a code and you need a code. Sekiro Shadows Die Twice I do also want to get the code. Have you got the key? Well, here's a code. Here's a code and you need a code. Sekiro Shadows Die Twice, I do also want to get, because apparently it's not like... Because you fight a giant ape that throws its poop at you. Exactly. Is that true? Yeah. Terrific.
Starting point is 01:23:16 And Untitled Goose Game, which I did mention, which is just a fun, quirky little indie game, which is from Melbourne. I am looking... I'm not sure... I don't know if Disco Elysium is on PS4 yet. Okay. But that is that
Starting point is 01:23:27 seems very good. That's again that's its own strange world. Yes. It's like a point yeah it's like a point and click. Yeah I love the
Starting point is 01:23:33 look of that one. Is it on Switch? I think it yeah maybe. Good because then I can get it on Switch. It's some sort of weird staggered release
Starting point is 01:23:41 like it's on PC I think and then it's other stuff later. But I'm looking forward to that. I think I will get that. Okay. Because it's been a long time since I've played a point and click.
Starting point is 01:23:49 Oh, maybe it's not on Switch yet. Oh, okay. Because that feels like the perfect thing you can play on Switch. Yeah, right. But again, it's this weird, somewhat dystopian world. Like the world building is what gets me, I think, you know? Okay. Point and click.
Starting point is 01:24:02 That's cool too. Point and click. Do what you've got to do. Maybe I mentioned this a while back, but there's a, I haven't played it yet, but there's a, there's an adventure game
Starting point is 01:24:10 that came out a couple of years ago by the guys that did Monkey Island. Oh, yeah. It's the Thimbleweed Forest. I'm going to get that. I think you have mentioned that. You have mentioned that. I've got to get it.
Starting point is 01:24:18 It's on Switch? It's on Switch? I think it's probably on Switch. Great. What about this? Best comedy. Got to hear Stuba. Zobbyland 2, Double Tap.
Starting point is 01:24:24 Book Smart, Good Boys, Long Shot, Always Be My Maybe. There's more. But about this? Best comedy. Got to hear Stuba. Zobbyland 2, Double Tap. Booksmart, Good Boys, Long Shot, Always Be My Maybe. There's more. But those are the ones that- You saw Stuba, right? Saw all of these. What did you think about Stuba? I liked it. It's not brilliant, but it's buddy cop, and it's a good version of that.
Starting point is 01:24:40 You're right. It's better than Taxi with Jimmy Fallon and someone else. Oh, yeah. Quinn Latifah yes thank you so it's better than a movie that came out 20 years ago that's what I'm saying
Starting point is 01:24:50 okay right wow Zombie Lane's solid Booksmart's good I didn't love it Claire liked it more than me Good Boys is like
Starting point is 01:24:57 it's like a younger version of uh because it is a Seth Rogen Evan yeah right right you know what I'm talking about yeah what's that
Starting point is 01:25:02 one of those yeah yeah but in a good way but I always remember I really liked but I also really liked Longshot with Charlie Saron and Seth Rogen. And nobody really saw it. She's like a presidential candidate and they start dating or whatever.
Starting point is 01:25:12 Did you see that? I didn't see that, no. It's really funny and they're both really good. Okay, I should get that down. For me, it's probably a toss-up between Booksmart and Always Be My Maybe. You're right. Booksmart's pretty solid. I think I might have to give it a rewatch just to say,
Starting point is 01:25:26 you know what I liked about Always Be My Maybe? It's the little things. Do you remember the movie Role Models? Yeah. Role Models was Sean William Scott and Paul Rudd. What I loved about it was there was a running gag in the movie about a Paul McCartney wing song. Everybody thinks it's a – everybody's like, hey, remember this song?
Starting point is 01:25:44 And Paul Rudd, who's like this really uptight dude is like down to the streets right and he is like he is so mad that everybody thinks this is a real song he's like it's not a real song because he's like that's his whole character is he he's got to be right and everybody else is wrong and he everybody else is the worst kind of thing and then at the end we get a full rendition of the paul mccartney wings song love take me Down to the Streets. And it's just that little touch that they went there. But this... I know what you mean.
Starting point is 01:26:16 Randall Park's character in Always Be My Maybe has a struggling band, the name of which I forget. I can Google that while you keep talking. It's some sort of Asian stereotype joke, base joke. But anyway, at the end there's a song about him punching Keanu Reeves, which happens in the movie. It's a rap, right? It's a rap of sorts.
Starting point is 01:26:37 And we can dodge a bullet, but we can't dodge him. And they got this guy Dan the Automator, who's like a famous hip-hop producer in America, to produce it, and it's kind of... Yes. Like, they really committed to this bit. Hello, Peril. Hello, Peril. There we go.
Starting point is 01:26:50 And there's like a whole... I think there's a whole EP on... Yeah, right. If you go to Spotify, you can listen to all their songs. But just, I feel like that is symbolic of that movie. Like, they really kind of... And again, it's just a kind of pretty solid, funny movie, but they kind of went the extra mile with all the jokes and all the stuff in there i agree i like that
Starting point is 01:27:07 movie it's very genuine and i like the two leads in that as well what about this uh best villain we've got thanos joker the emperor it from it mysterio margaret who's the villain from dark phoenix uh margaret what's who's the actor again it It's Jessica Chastain. Jessica Chastain. There we go. Were you going to say Bronwyn Bishop? No, I was going to say Bryce Dallas Howard. That would have been fine too.
Starting point is 01:27:32 Jafar. It was Bronwyn Bishop. Former Australian politician, Bronwyn Bishop. Brixton. Oh, from Hobbs and Shaw. And Ghidorah from Godzilla, who I didn't mind. For me, I like Thanos. And I think the Joker as a villain works.
Starting point is 01:27:51 That's the element. That performance is what I like about that movie. But I think Mysterio. I also think it's Mysterio. Yeah. I'm going to reel. And it's weird because I haven't watched that movie in quite some time. But I, yeah, that's.
Starting point is 01:28:02 It's what you're talking about. Everything you said about the hair you could apply to the character. Yeah, right. And how it takes that turn. Yeah. And the elements of, I like the costume. I feel like we can spoil Spider-Man Far From Home at this point. I mean, we already knew going in.
Starting point is 01:28:15 Well, yeah, but I mean, but that's the thing though. And we even knew it was still good. There was a, Mysterio is a villain. He's a long time Spider-Man villain. Sure. And even his debut appearance was he appears as a hero. Mysterio is a villain he's a long time Spider-Man villain sure and even his debut appearance was he appears as a hero and then it's revealed
Starting point is 01:28:30 and you know to replace Spider-Man at the end it's revealed of course that he's the villain yes and this is the same in this movie and there was a bunch of rumours
Starting point is 01:28:37 not rumours but people are speculating rampant speculation on the internet of like maybe he is a good guy in this maybe they've turned it around on us and I'm like well that's obviously dumb but there were I'm sure they've turned it around on us. And I'm like, well, that's obviously dumb.
Starting point is 01:28:46 But I'm sure there were seconds in this movie where I'm like, he is a good guy. He seems pretty genuine. Same. I'm like, maybe it's the next movie that they turn this. Yeah, right. But it kind of flips in a scene and it really works. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:00 And just the whole, I enjoyed the whole apparatus of Mysterio as a villain. Like it's not just him, it's a team. It's like 20. And sometimes he's in a mocap suit and sometimes he's in a fake suit. Sometimes he's a hologram. Just the very idea of it. Yeah, I agree. So we're on the same page.
Starting point is 01:29:17 Yeah. Do you think he's still alive? Yep. Or they can bring him back using technology. Yeah, right, right, right. Yes, I think he'll return. What about best Star War? We've, of course, got The Rise of Skywalker,
Starting point is 01:29:28 The Mandalorian, The Rise of Kylo Ren, which is a new comic, which I feel like if there was a few more, I'd probably put on here. It'd probably be for higher up. And Jedi Fallen Order. I like The Mandalorian. It's not consistently great. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:29:41 So, again, I'm going to go Jedi Fallen Order. I think I will also go jedi fallen order the mandalorian is is in a decent year for comics as well it's good popcorn tv and it's it's not it's the right it's the right length for the amount of content in it yes they're not trying to stretch a 30 minute plot into an hour every week uh and i appreciate that it is weekly definitely and also we're obviously not talking about the last one because we haven't seen it i haven't seen it yet and you know it is precisely engineered for us to be like oh my god i love that baby yoda how good's that
Starting point is 01:30:13 baby yoda let's let's purchase some baby yoda products kiss him or eat him a lot of people out there want to eat baby yoda he'd probably be pretty good that's what i'm talking about yeah and like a salad probably yeah yeah okay it. Mix them to like a couscous salad maybe. Yeah, I guess. Some vinaigrette. I was thinking more like I want to roast him over an open fire. I want poached. One of those little like a kebab.
Starting point is 01:30:34 Yeah, yeah, I get you. Like when they're doing that salacious crumb. Yeah, I want a salacious crumb him. And bread crumb him. And bread crumb him, yeah. We got. Wait, Mandalorian though. Oh, what are you saying?
Starting point is 01:30:45 What do you think? Again, it's kind of a throwback to your like. And we always say this, but I feel like it's like a very good Xena Warrior Princess. All the same and it looks better. Yeah. But I mean, just the... I feel like the sense of scope in Fallen Order is amazing.
Starting point is 01:31:01 I agree. And the storytelling is also good. Especially for a video game. Yeah, yeah. The only thing that annoys me about Fallen Order is there's I agree. And the storytelling is also good. Storytelling is great, yeah. Especially for a video game. Yeah, yeah. The only thing that annoys me about Fallen Order is there's no fast travel. Yes. Unless they patched it or anything. No, no.
Starting point is 01:31:11 I think they have, right? You can do shortcuts. There are sometimes shortcuts, yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of looking at a map and being like, where the fuck am I? Yeah, there's a lot of like, okay, well now go to another planet. And I'm like, okay, well I'm going to have to jump over all those mountains again to get back to the ship. But it would be nice to just go back to the ship. But also for me, everything on this list is better than The Rise of Skywalker.
Starting point is 01:31:26 Yeah. Unfortunately. Best comic. These are mine, but you feel free to add whatever you like. Old Man Quill, I really liked. It's about Old Man Peter Quill, obviously. Die, which is the book about people that get sucked into the weird fantasy RPG, turn-based strategy world, which is still ongoing, which I really like.
Starting point is 01:31:45 Criminal. Have you read Criminal? Not the most new one. Consistently good, sort of connected. Deceased I really liked. It ends in kind of a hurry. That's interesting because even though it's kind of a, it's Marvel zombies, but DC. It's really, the characterization is spot on.
Starting point is 01:32:02 I really like the version of Superman. They create this and he has the sun and the spoiler alert, he has to say goodbye at one point. Like what happens if like a speedster is a zombie? Yeah, right. What kind of damage can that person do? Spencer and Locke volume two came out this year, which I love, but I think it's Spider-Man Life Story.
Starting point is 01:32:19 It's not Doomsday Clock? I think it's Spider-Man Life Story, Mason. I should get to Spider-Man Life Story with this recommendation. By the way, for those who don't know, it's like the whole entirety of Spider-Man story told, but it's in real time. So it starts in the 60s and goes into modern day. And he ages, so by the time you end it.
Starting point is 01:32:34 But they also do in the era that the comic comes out in, or is set, is the era of the stuff that happens in that comic era. Is there a Venom situation? Yeah, there's a Venom situation. That's great. I can't remember. Anyway, I'm going to read it again over the summer. Okay, well, I'm going to read it for the first time.
Starting point is 01:32:46 That sounds really good. So Watchmen for you then. DC's Doomsday Clock. Yeah, Doomsday Clock. No, absolutely not. Maybe Immortal Hulk. Is that on your list? That's on the other list, but I haven't finished that, so I didn't put it on.
Starting point is 01:32:55 Okay, I really liked Immortal Hulk. It's a nice take on. Let me bring that up. There's Batman Last Night on Earth. Oh, I got them here. Yeah, Criminal Daredevil, DC's Doomsday Clock. Apparently Daredevil this year has been really good. I haven't read any of it, though. I've also, Oh, I got them here, yeah. Criminal Daredevil, Deceased, Die, Doomsday Clock. Apparently Daredevil this year has been really good. I haven't read any of it, though.
Starting point is 01:33:07 I've also, look, I like Jonathan Hickman, the writer. He's done a lot of great stuff that I enjoy, but I've not read House of X, Powers of X. Why? Because there's too much stuff. Don't give me two series that I have to read alternately. Stop it. There's one here that says Laura Dean keeps breaking up with me.
Starting point is 01:33:22 I don't know what that is. Also, I initially read it as Laura Dern keeps breaking up with me i don't know what that is also i initially read it as laura dern keeps breaking up with me which i i'd read that yeah uh you know what i read some of superman superman's pal jimmy olsen i was gonna save that for what we're reading that is a fun that is a fun series and a throwback yeah because it ended like 30 years ago that series maybe yeah i've brought it back i like jimmy olsen is it chip sadarsky or matt fraction one of those one of those two yeah i've written it down for later. I think it's Fraction, maybe. Okay, so for me, it's Spider-Man. For you, it's Jonathan.
Starting point is 01:33:48 Awesome. Cool, okay. And Dipset O'Clock, obviously. Just kidding, it's bad. Just kidding. Just kidding, guys. It's not bad, but it's kind of bad, but it let us down. Just kidding.
Starting point is 01:33:57 We loved it. Just kidding. We didn't. Best movie you didn't think was great. So this is a movie that people are like, this is revolutionized cinema. Oh, then Joker. This has changed the game. Oh, then Joker.
Starting point is 01:34:05 This has changed the game. You didn't let me finish. This has changed the game in terms of comic book movies. If you think you know iconic DC villains, have you even seen what's coming your way? The movie Joker. Yeah, I didn't like it. Yeah. I've also put the Irishman, which I guess they're both Scorsese-esque ones here.
Starting point is 01:34:23 But it's for me. It's Joker. Is there anything else besides? There is. I'd like to hear the nominations at least. Yeah, sure. So I've got two lists open here. Yeah, maybe that's just one that I might have just added that by myself.
Starting point is 01:34:34 Okay, that's okay. What about best? Limited ones for this. I just want to point that out here. But best Hulk in grey CGI villains. Previously, it's a bumper year for Hulk in grey CGI. Who do we have this year? Okay, here we've got all the monsters from Shazam. Oh, yep.
Starting point is 01:34:47 They really, really... What are they all? One's a gargoyle. One's a different looking gargoyle. I don't know. The other one is Jake Gyllenhaal in a mocap suit. It's true. Can we also add the Knights of Ren to that?
Starting point is 01:34:59 Not bad, Mason. And not that CGI. No, but some of them probably are. Some of them probably... I would imagine in a lot of scenes, they were just added in post. Agreed. No, but some of them probably are. Some of them probably. I would imagine in a lot of scenes they were just added in post. Agreed. So, ah, yeah. In the tradition of DC CGI villains.
Starting point is 01:35:12 I think we have to give it to Shazam. I mean, what even were they? Was there a bird one and a slug one and a lion one probably? There was probably a lion and a slug one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cool. Yeah. What about this, Mason? I'm ready. Wor a lion. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cool. Yeah. What about this, Mason?
Starting point is 01:35:25 I'm ready. Worst trailer. Sonic, the first version. Yes. I kind of wish they didn't change it. So we'd get the weird, terrible version. Maybe there'll be a reverse patch. Oh, please.
Starting point is 01:35:36 Someone will fix it to make it worse. Dr. Doolittle, which I didn't think, I thought nothing of it when I first watched it. And then going back being like, this is nothing. And of course, Cats. Yeah. Cats is a nightmare, right? I really like the first Sonic trailer because it's got Gangster's Paradise in it for no reason. Yep.
Starting point is 01:35:58 And it's so weirdly paced. Yep. And most of the movie seems to be in it. Yes. And it's bad. And it's bad, yeah. The movie looks bad. I think it might be something for me.
Starting point is 01:36:07 I'm going to say Cats because it's terrifying. I can't wait to watch Cats. I know. But I've got to watch Jojo Rabbit. I've got to watch other stuff. You've got to watch Cats. I've got to watch Cats, though. That's true.
Starting point is 01:36:15 Well, I've got to watch Cats. I mean, Jojo Rabbit will at least be out for a few weeks. Cats might be out for two days and then it's gone. That's true. Best trailer, Rise of Skywalker, Black Widow, Wonder Woman 84, Free Guy, Ghostbusters, Tenet, Battle at Big Rock, which is the short film. Is Robert Pattinson in Tenet as well? Yes.
Starting point is 01:36:34 Okay, good. So you're going to give it to him? No. I'm going to give it to, because it really surprised me. Wonder Woman 84? No, okay. That was exactly what I thought it would be. Anyway, Free Guy.
Starting point is 01:36:43 Yeah, right. I thought that was a really fun trailer that sold that movie I wasn't really interested in. But then I watched the first 10 minutes of Six Underground and I was like, oh, if it's even remotely like this. Because I insisted you watch it after we talked about it. I watched a little bit with you. Why is there a parkour guy?
Starting point is 01:36:58 I don't know. I didn't finish it. Look, we talked about that, but I think these days parkour is integrated into regular movies. The idea that, oh, my God, what a fresh idea, a parkour these days parkour is integrated into regular movies. The idea that, oh my God, what a fresh idea, a parkour guy who just does parkour. Yeah. Incredible. Incredible.
Starting point is 01:37:10 Yeah. What were we talking about? Best trailer. Yeah. I feel like Tenet's like, yeah, I don't know what it is. Yeah, I guess. But I guess that's good. I guess the key to a good trailer is do we want to see more of this?
Starting point is 01:37:20 And I definitely want to see more of Tenet. I don't know if it's going to be as good as Inception. Solid movie. I really like the Rise of's going to be as good as Inception. Solid movie. I really like the Rise of Skywalker trailer. Like the second one maybe. Also is that the key to a good trailer? Does it trick you into watching a movie? I mean it didn't trick me.
Starting point is 01:37:36 I was going to say it. It's maybe Tenet. What's the Tenet? What is the Tenet? I guess this is sort of a spoiler. It's a palindrome. Is it? Yes. Well no if you turn an N backwards it is sort of a spoiler. It's a palindrome. Is it? Yes. Well, no, if you turn an N backwards, it's just a backwards N. That's a good point. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:37:49 Yeah, good point. If it was temet, it would be a palindrome. It's true, yeah. Yeah. But then wouldn't an E be backwards? Mason, what have I done? Yeah. Tin it.
Starting point is 01:38:00 Tin it. Tim it. Tim it. Tim it. Yeah. I'd watch Timmit Me too Best dead or CGI de-aged or re-aged actor Oh my god
Starting point is 01:38:11 These are really This category is piling up It's expanding every year For a while it was just de-aged And now it's like We'll bring back the dead We don't care Yeah
Starting point is 01:38:17 We'll make someone really old Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher From The Rise of Skywalker Okay Carrie Fisher are young But also bringing back Carrie Fisher in general. The Irishman from The Irishman. Absolutely the worst. Incredibly bad.
Starting point is 01:38:32 Will Smith from that one he was in, but also some of the best, but also some of the worst. Well, here's the thing about the Gemini Man. Oh, that's what it's called. It's called Gemini Man. That's all I wanted to say. It's called Gemini Man. But the mistake there was to do the de-aging thing
Starting point is 01:38:47 and also the weird... Mocap thing? The frames per second thing. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think people would have been able to better focus on the CGI, some of which is very impressive and some of which is terrible, if there weren't also scenes that look like you're in the room with a bunch of actors on a set.
Starting point is 01:39:06 Yeah. Just doing actor-y stuff. It's a good movie. It's easy to, yeah, it's harder to focus on that if you're like, why am I here? Yeah. Am I in this movie? So bad. It's bad, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:18 There's also Chris Evans, aged up. Is that mostly makeup though? No, it's because they did the, yeah, it's a mix. Yeah, right. Nick Fury, aged down. Didn't really notice that much. No they did the, yeah, it's a mix. Yeah, right. Nick Fury, aged down. Didn't really notice that much. No. If anything, Coulson is a better.
Starting point is 01:39:29 Yeah, in some scenes. But also you have to watch, I feel like those two are subtle enough that I would really have to watch like an episode of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. and then go back and watch Captain Marvel and go, oh, he does look significantly younger. Or is that just a wig? Yeah, right. Because he doesn't look that old.
Starting point is 01:39:45 No, that's true. And Stan Lee, who's briefly, briefly in that movie. Yeah. I'm going to say the Carrie Fisher thing because it's in a complete, I mean, I don't think it's that well executed story-wise because they were limited by what they could do, but she's just there and you don't, it just looks like she's standing there. I mean, there is, yeah, that is true, actually.
Starting point is 01:40:05 The weird stuff isn't the... It's the context. Yeah, it's the context. The weird stuff is the fact that they've had to recontextualise the lines she used from Force Awakens into real conversations with other people. And so they are, they're weird and generic. It never feels like she's having a conversation.
Starting point is 01:40:22 But the remainder of it, the fact that she is in scenes and it doesn't feel like they've added her in post, that's actually kind of amazing. The bit where she's young and in horse training with Luke back in the day, that's a little bit wonky as well. But the Luke looks terrific. Yeah, right? Weird, yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:41 So yeah, good winners there. Best kids film, Frozen 2, Jumanji 4, Toy Story. Let's say Toy Story. Okay, cool. Good one. Moving on. All right. Yep.
Starting point is 01:40:53 What about this? Worst sequel or reboot? I'm ready. Rambo Last Blood. Yes. Men in Black. Oh, also yes. Lion King.
Starting point is 01:41:01 Yep. Hellboy? No. Shaft. You hated Shaft, if I recall. Hated it. You hated Shaft. I hated the like, oh, you can't say anything these days.
Starting point is 01:41:11 Kids and their phones and fucking blah, blah. It's a bloody PC and I'm from a different generation. Fuck off with that. It's fucking awful. I liked it. I liked it. So you're giving it to that? No.
Starting point is 01:41:23 I'm still going to give it to Rambo. I'm going to give it to the first three on the list. All three. What were those three again? Rambo, Men in Black, Lion King. Terrible. All terrible. I like that Shaft at least built off Shaft 2000.
Starting point is 01:41:35 Yeah, right? Uh-huh. Which I maintain is not a bad film. You would. Get off your phones and solve some... Why are you going on your maps to find a crime when we could go to a warehouse and punch a woman or whatever that movie's about?
Starting point is 01:41:49 I mean, that's a really good point, though, isn't it? Yeah, it is. Yeah, have you ever found a crime on your phone, on maps? I guess not. They mostly hide those pins, don't they? Yeah, they do, yeah. Yeah, cool. What about this?
Starting point is 01:42:00 Best and worst comic book movie. Joker, Endgame, Spider-Man,man captain marvel shazam dark phoenix probably others yep uh the worst is dark phoenix for me yeah because yeah i mean what did i expect but also you don't get a pass because i thought it would be terrible can you can you slow down the list again joker yep endgame spider-man captain marvel yep shazam yep dark phoenix yeah look here's the thing. Again, I didn't like Joker. I don't feel it's comic book-y beyond some names or whatever.
Starting point is 01:42:32 But in terms of performance, great. Joaquin Phoenix is great. The production of that world is great. It looks just like the 80s from other movies from the 80s. I think there's stuff to like about that movie, although I didn't like it as a whole. There's nothing to like about Dark Phoenix. There's nothing to like about that movie.
Starting point is 01:42:51 What about the villain, Margaret? Oh, Margaret was pretty good. And the iconic line, I don't know what to do, which they cut out. How dare they? Right? Did you hear they're releasing a trailer for You Mutant Soon in January apparently? Apparently some people are liking it, but some people probably like Dark Phoenix and they're objectively wrong.
Starting point is 01:43:08 Objectively? There's nothing good about that movie. Nobody cares. Everybody's phoning it in. It makes no sense. There's a whole scene where they're trapped in a game of Frogger. Like we're going to get to that building. I mean some of us can fly or whatever, but there's traffic.
Starting point is 01:43:22 There's just some traffic in front of us. There's three cars in the way. There's three cars in the way. There's three cars in the way. What are we going to do? We'll get squished like a frog. Awful. Boring. They didn't even really go to space.
Starting point is 01:43:32 They didn't even go to space. I mean, they did, but you know. Yeah, right. Did they? Yeah. If you can get like a Virgin Galactic jet or whatever and do that, it doesn't count, man. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:43:42 If you can still do it, if I could pay enough money to do it, it doesn't count. Right, good. Yeah, it's Dark Phoenix. I feel like Shazam is kind of getting overlooked but it's solid. That's what I'm talking about. That's probably why it's been overlooked in basically every category we've nominated in. It's not the worst. It's pretty good
Starting point is 01:43:59 except in hulking CGI monsters, in which case it is the worst. What about this? Worst special effect. The Irishman, Sonic with human hands and human teeth, cats, Will Smith in Aladdin the trailer, but only the trailer because he looks better in the movie, or Gemini Man in some scenes, and some of Hellboy, specifically the scene where a ghost comes out of somebody's tonsils or something. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:44:22 And it's like, I'm your dad and I'm here. I think it's the Irishman because I don't know what age anybody's supposed to be in that movie. And they're like, oh, here you are, young man. Come on in and have some candy, young man. Little boy, Robert De Niro. How old is he supposed to be? I saw like a thing on YouTube,
Starting point is 01:44:41 it was Vanity Fair or something like that, and it was like the costuming. Yeah, that's all good. The costumers come in and they're like, you know, break down this scene and why all the characters like this. And there's a scene where he's like, the scene where Joe Pesci's character
Starting point is 01:44:53 helps Robert De Niro fix his car up. Yeah. And they're like, well, here, Robert De Niro's wearing a leather jacket such as a young man might wear, like a youth might wear in this scene. And it's like, I understand what you're working with here, but he's supposed to be a young man in this.
Starting point is 01:45:07 That's astounding. Like clearly the memo went around, he's a man in his 20s to 30s. No. No. They're all the same age. And it doesn't service the show. It makes it confusing. It doesn't service the movie if you're like, what era,
Starting point is 01:45:22 is this a flashback or a flash forward? How old is he supposed to be now, then? The older stuff is better, the old man stuff. But that's if I feel mostly prosthetic. I can't even remember what award this is. Worst special effects. Oh, then it's still the Irishman, yeah. I'm going to say also, yeah, because it's also the worst implementation of it.
Starting point is 01:45:39 I mean, Cats. It's Cats. I'm going to give it to Cats. But Cats is at least something. I mean, I haven't seen it, but Cats is... But it's also badly executed in terms of like, we talked about it, the dots and the whatever. So I'm going to say Cats.
Starting point is 01:45:50 All right, fine. Best special effect. Okay. Alita, The Lion King, New Sonic, Pokemon, Detective Pikachu. Okay. Because a lot of those are like excellent. Yeah. But the Mysterio Illusion.
Starting point is 01:46:01 For me, it's the Mysterio Illusion. I'm probably biased. It's a big, big, big year for Gyllenhaal. But it's also the best use of CGI. And I appreciate a lot of these. Again, not a Pokemon guy, but I appreciate that they brought the Pokemon into a real world scenario.
Starting point is 01:46:16 And they're not terrifying. And they're kind of like, they're not just all weird vinyl, squeaky vinyl monsters like you would imagine a lot of pokemon would be like you know yes uh and again there's a lot to like elita's uh really good good yeah yeah uh lion king flawless amazing incredible don't care we'll never watch that again don't want to yuck yeah no good boring so to me it's either Pokemon or Mysterio, but I'm going to go Mysterio. Yeah, nice. What about best rig, as in bod?
Starting point is 01:46:47 Oh, yeah. Kamau Nanjiani, obviously. Does he count because he's not in a movie yet? It's still rules-related. It's just Hollywood. It's for a movie. Okay, yeah, that's true. It doesn't have to count.
Starting point is 01:46:55 Does it matter? No, none of this matters. I just wanted to make it clear once again for us and the listeners, none of these matters. There's physically no award. Yes. And nobody involved ever knows they've won one of these awards. And if we could all just keep it that way.
Starting point is 01:47:11 If we could keep it under the table. Nobody go up to somebody and be like, you know, you won the Gamers On Award a couple of years ago because your movie was crap. Don't do that. Don't tell them. It's nice being anonymously making fun of things, isn't it? I think so too.
Starting point is 01:47:24 So James McAvoy, he's muscular back-o-boy. Oh, yeah, in glass, sure. Really good in that. Like, he really bigged up. Zachary Levian Shazam, again, complete transformation. Just a battleship of a man. Yeah. I mean, a lot of that is suit, but he still did it.
Starting point is 01:47:39 Is he shirtless in it at all? I don't think he is, actually. Oh, right. Yeah. So for Tree Fall in the Woods, et cetera. But if you see him on the street or whatever And he's just wearing a t-shirt He's still a tank of a man
Starting point is 01:47:48 And Chris Hemsworth for the new version of Thor Yeah Dude bro Thor Yeah right You know what I mean But he didn't really Yeah but it's still a rig isn't it It's still a rig
Starting point is 01:47:58 But I'm Look personally I'm disqualifying him It's the same as a wig It's the same as a wig I don't think it is though It's the same as a wig basically It's the same as a wig. I don't think it is though. It's the same as a wig, basically. A wig's not a rig. You dig?
Starting point is 01:48:10 That's my philosophy. Fair. Yeah. I don't think it should be Thor. I mean, it's a good fat man suit. Yeah. But also Marvel have just the one joke about that.
Starting point is 01:48:20 It's always like, what if a man was fat? What if a man was fat? What if a man was fat? Wouldn't that be funny? What do you mean, the one joke for that movie or in general? I think it was also kind of did some interesting things of like depression and weight gain. Well, that's true, yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:31 But are we counting that or is it just me screaming? No, Mason, no. Exactly. Well, we are. Does it matter? Kumail, very impressive. I mean, it's not in a movie yet, but damn. Damn.
Starting point is 01:48:42 Good word. Good word. Again, absolutely unsustainable. Don't even. I'm doing it right now. No, don't do it. Best cameo. Mike Moe as Bruce Lee.
Starting point is 01:48:51 Pretty good. I mean, it's a good, yeah, okay. I know people are like, it's controversial in terms of like what Bruce Lee was like as a person, but he is like dead on. Yeah, right. The crisis stuff. The Superman's back. I think most of the stuff I've seen is good.
Starting point is 01:49:05 It's pretty good, yeah. I mean, some of it's kind of... Yep. But that's what that whole universe is. It's a bit fan service-y. You know, there's a scene where Constantine meets Lucifer and it's kind of exactly as hammy as you'd think it would be. But, you know.
Starting point is 01:49:20 Superman from the neck down in Shazam. Great. Stan Lee. He's a couple of times though right? this year? yeah Captain Marvel and Endgame
Starting point is 01:49:28 I don't think he's in Spider-Man no I don't think he is Stephen King in It and just most of the cast in The Rise of Skywalker look it's nice to see
Starting point is 01:49:37 Stephen King in a thing that's fun yeah definitely I'm going to say Stanley because it's his last in Endgame? yes I'm going to say Stanley
Starting point is 01:49:44 in Captain Marvel because I feel that is the nicest and the sweetest one, I think. Okay, sure. And they tied it into Mallrats. Yeah, Endgame is good, but. This feel to me is more like, for me, it's a lifetime achievement award. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:49:59 Yeah, for sure. I mean, I think they're still going to put him in another one at some point. Do you think so? Yes. But, yeah, give it a couple of years or less. Yeah, right. I feel like that was the, I think they're still going to put him in another one at some point. Do you think so? Yes. But, yeah, give it a couple of years or less. Yeah, right. I feel like that was the – I don't know. I feel like Endgame was kind of blink and you miss it.
Starting point is 01:50:12 He goes past and people go, oh, Stanley, there's Stanley. But I feel like in Captain Marvel, people are like, oh. They really held on. Oh, that's nice. Fair enough. There's some good stuff in here, though. Yeah. Biggest disappointment.
Starting point is 01:50:24 I mean, you could put in some Game of Thrones here, which you can hear, but Godzilla, King of Monsters. That's a bunch of wet farts, that one. Were you disappointed, though? I'm not a huge fan. I feel like Godzilla fans weren't disappointed with that. I feel like you should factor in, are big fans disappointed? Also, were you expecting a lot, generally?
Starting point is 01:50:42 I was hoping it would be as good as the first one, which for me it wasn't. But then again, if you love Godzilla, I think a lot generally? I was hoping it would be as good as the first one, which for me it wasn't. But then again, if you love Godzilla, I think a lot of people do love that. But I think they got the scale. The scale was weird and it doesn't matter. Brightburn? I was not disappointed, I don't think.
Starting point is 01:50:56 I was. Glass? Hang on, in what way? It just wasn't. What did you want more of or less of? I wanted it just to be a better film. What would make it better, though? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:51:05 We did an episode. I can't remember. We should probably get moving. But you've just got a lingering sense of disappointment. Okay, I understand. Glass. See, I feel Brightburn gave more to me than I thought it would. Yeah, definitely.
Starting point is 01:51:17 Glass sucked, but I didn't think it was going to be good. So if there's one more category, we can maybe drop it in later. Star Wars, The Rise of Skywalker. Yeah. I mean, I was, I didn't. I held it. You know what? I didn't think it was going to be great.
Starting point is 01:51:33 Maybe I did help. I think maybe when we reviewed it, I said I wasn't really disappointed because I didn't think it was going to be great. I think maybe I still did hold out some hope. Yes. I think it's in thinking about it a little bit, I'm disappointed that it wasn't better for me
Starting point is 01:51:49 and I didn't get a lot out of it. Yeah, fair enough. What a wet end to a finale. I'm going to say Game of Thrones. What about? That was probably more invested. What about Dark Phoenix though? Just kidding.
Starting point is 01:52:01 It wasn't good and nobody expected it to be good. Well, here we go. This works into our next topic. Movies they need to stop making. Oh, yeah, X-Men. X-Men. and nobody expected it to be good. Well, here we go. This works into our next topic. Movies they need to stop making. Oh, yeah, X-Men. X-Men. I mean, they have. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:10 So I don't know whether that counts. Like, they're not going to. Well, they still should. I mean, they've got the New Mutants coming anyway. Yeah. Star Wars, Terminator, Disney live-action remakes, Men in Black. For me, it's Men in Black. Right.
Starting point is 01:52:22 Stop. Unless you've got an idea stop making men in black movies i think i would watch another one if it was good if it was good what a twist i mean in many ways i'd watch any of these if they were still good but i what what do we mean by should stop making like we've had enough of this now you've ruined it us personally or the world because i think the world the world isn't tired of saying... The world is saying Terminator, stop. Yeah, the world is saying no more Terminators.
Starting point is 01:52:49 The world isn't saying no more live-action Disney remakes. That's true. The world is saying give us more of those. I would say I'm not interested in seeing any more of those. Some of these I've just added. Yeah, yeah, for sure. I don't want to see any more of those. Lion King killed it for me, I think.
Starting point is 01:53:03 Mulan, though. Okay, but after this one. After Mulan. And then Hercules, and then Lilo and Stitch, and then with Lion King 2. What they've done is they've taken all the ones with the most personality, and they've turned them into live-action things, some
Starting point is 01:53:17 of which, to me, are sorely lacking in character and being interesting. So don't give us less interesting ones. Don't adapt less interesting ones now. It's too late. What about if they did a live-action version of Toy Story? They actually got Tom Hanks to put on a little Woody suit and they shrink him down like in Cats and they make big sets, like Johnson and Friends, which is an Australian TV show.
Starting point is 01:53:36 Don't worry about it. And then they make all the people giant CGI monsters. I love it. Andy's like a big, terrifying, dead-on CGI creature. And it seems like an awful dream you can't wake up from yes absolutely then yes and you know you got tim allen and tim allen's head of the buzz light you're like why did i do this everybody's screaming all the time i'd rather be back in jail because i went to jail in the 80s i ratted out my fellow drug dealers that's how i
Starting point is 01:54:00 avoided a longer sentence men in black for bit okay. Okay, right. I would see another one. I think they should... I guess the question is, because I would like to see another Terminator. I would like to see another Men in Black. I don't see another Terminator. But here's the thing, though. I guess it's should they stop making them
Starting point is 01:54:19 given their current course? Yes. And I think they should, you're right, they should stop making Men in Black unless they're going to revamp it and go back to, like, first principles and go, how can we change this to make this fresh and entertaining? But they've also kind of tried to do that multiple times.
Starting point is 01:54:32 Yeah, right. And they've never got it right. Yeah, okay, I think you're right. Men in Black, because they're not going to... It's ruined it for me, because I think even if they did make a good one, it's like... But I... If they made another Terminator in the similar style to the last one
Starting point is 01:54:45 i would still watch it i think because i at least i'd be somewhat entertained i'd be like i'd like to see how this new timeline they kind of take out a bunch of stuff that i like in that right but i think if they were like we're gonna make a new men in black basically the same as the last one i'd be like nah give it a miss i didn't mention also the arnold de-aging and that thing was also excellent and That's true. It's really good in that. Dan, can we go back and, what did I say in the previous one?
Starting point is 01:55:11 I still think it's Carrie Fisher. I think, I'm going to go back, because we can do this, and say it's Dark Fate, just because I thought that was old footage. Oh, yeah. I think if you showed me the training sequence in Rise of Skywalker, I'd go, oh, that's new,
Starting point is 01:55:22 they've CGI'd that. But I think if you went, that's some old footage from the 90s, I'd go, of course it is new. They've CGI'd that. But I think if you went, that's some old footage from the 90s, I'd go, of course it is. They dug this out. It was on the DVD. You didn't watch the DVD. I'd be like, yeah, of course it is.
Starting point is 01:55:31 I did watch the DVD. I did. I've watched all kinds of stuff. I'm up on pop culture things. Yeah, man. What about best movie you haven't seen? I've got Jojo Rabbit. Oh, this is going to be long.
Starting point is 01:55:40 1917. I'll just put some key ones for me. Ford versus Ferrari or Le Mans, wherever you're from, and The Lighthouse. For me, it's Jojo Rabbit or 1917, which I'm really excited for. Is that supposedly one take? It's not really, but it's made to look that way. Okay, right, right.
Starting point is 01:55:58 I think for me, here's the thing about The Lighthouse. I think for me, The Lighthouse will probably ultimately be disappointing, but I love the premise. Yes. And I love the idea and how it looks more than I'm sure I'll probably love the movie itself. I think I'll be like, well, that's a series of weird back and forth between Robert Pattinson and Willem Dafoe.
Starting point is 01:56:18 I agree. So probably Jojo Rabbit or Ford vs. Ferrari. Just kidding. I do want to see Ford vs. Ferrari. Yeah, right? I saw someone say on Twitter, I don't know who, it was like, if you love cars going past really fast and then men taking their glasses off and being like,
Starting point is 01:56:32 oh my God, can you believe how fast? Yeah, right. Then you're going to love it. What did you say, Jojo Rabbit and what was another one? 1917. I think it's still Jojo Rabbit for me. Yeah, right. Yeah, I think it might be, yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:41 Right now I want some laughs. Yes. And Hitler, obviously. Yeah, of course. Do you want to do best movie first or worst movie? I guess we should probably end on a positive, right? So let's do best first. Okay.
Starting point is 01:56:53 What the people want to see. No, let's do worst first. This is my list. I think we'll have more to say about worst. Probably. Yeah. We've also got just a movie in the middle. Oh, yeah, cool.
Starting point is 01:57:02 So that's a good kind of... Okay, so for me, I've got give Men in Black International, Dark Phoenix, which again, I feel like giving a pass to because I didn't think it would be good. It's also not the worst X-Men movie. Right. But this is also, this isn't most disappointing. This is worst of the year. This is the worst of the year.
Starting point is 01:57:19 You're right. Yeah. Or Will Smith has a clone or is a clone. Yep. I wrote that at the time because I couldn't remember what the movie was called. It's probably a bad sign. And I didn't want to Google it. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:57:28 But I hated that movie. Gemini Man. Oh, my God. So bland and nothing and not funny and the lead into like, he's allergic to bees. Are you sure he's allergic to bees? Do you think his clone's allergic to bees? Let's test if you're allergic to bees. We get sure he's allergic to bees? Do you think his clone's allergic to bees? Let's test if you're allergic to bees. We get it.
Starting point is 01:57:47 Chekhov's bee. James, are you allergic to bees? Is that what's going on here? I'm not allergic to bees. You know what? I think for me, the charm of Will Smith and Mary Elizabeth Winstead saved that from being a total trash fight to me. I really like her in particular.
Starting point is 01:58:04 Yep. I mean, he's good as well, obviously, but no, I just thought it was so like, was this made in 1994? It did feel like a product of. And it's Ang Lee as well, which to me, I'm like, how did you make this? I don't know what Ang Lee's deal is. Hulk.
Starting point is 01:58:19 What's happening in Ang Lee's head? You know what I mean? I don't know. Yeah. He did Hulk, the one he liked. I know. Is he a true auteur? Is that why? I think he know. Yeah. He did Hulk, the one that you like. I know. Is he a true auteur? Is that why?
Starting point is 01:58:25 I think he is. But he's just got, he misfires more than. I just think these like kind of Western adaptations of comic books or action movies or whatever, he's generally not great at. I'm going to double check that to make sure. But like, I feel like the ones that I've seen, I'm like, not good. But then you look at like Brokeback Mountain, which is incredible. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:43 And then you look at Hulk. Yeah. Don't. Don't. It's bad. bad yeah so he did Crouching Tiger obviously and he also did Sense and Sensibility yeah that's pretty incredible uh anyway so yeah for me it's that one because I just thought it was and what a waste of money and like a great technology yeah right. This might have been, look, I think for me Dark Phoenix is one of the worst. Look, and again, who's an engaging personality in that movie? Yes. Who? Name a person.
Starting point is 01:59:14 I won't. I mean, McAvoy's in it, but he's not good. Jennifer Lawrence is good, is in it, but she's not good. I mean, she's in it, but... Everybody else is just generic in that. Yes. Maybe, I didn't like, I mean, Glass was bad, certainly. Yeah, you're right. I think you really hated Glass.
Starting point is 01:59:29 I kind of hate Glass. What about The Irishman, Mason? But The Irishman's not bad, I guess. No, it's not objectively bad. The thing about The Irishman is a series of circumstances has led a whole bunch of people to believe it's unbelievably boring. Yes. Like the mechanism by which it was delivered
Starting point is 01:59:45 has almost made it purpose-built for people to be like, this is dull and I can turn it off and watch anything else or do anything else right now. Yeah. Like a huge mistake, Scorsese, master of your craft. What about Rambo for you? Oh, that's bad too. Oh.
Starting point is 02:00:01 I mean, Dark Phoenix is bad, but at least it has Margaret. You're right. Rambo doesn't have a Margaret, but at least it has Margaret. You're right. Marimba doesn't have a Margaret. Where's its Margaret? Yeah. That is also dull. Man, it's... All right.
Starting point is 02:00:13 Here's the thing. And again, Glass didn't... It wasn't on track to disappoint me because it's Shyamalan. I don't care for most of his work. Yeah. It was disappointing to me in that the premise to me was very interesting and I don't think he went anywhere interesting with it. So that's
Starting point is 02:00:29 disappointing. That makes it a bad movie for me. If it were a story where it's analysing a bunch of people that think they're superheroes and that is the movie and it didn't turn into weird secret society cults or whatever and boring action sequences at the end.
Starting point is 02:00:47 But Rambo isn't anything. Yeah. Again, it's the most generic script available. Thank you for reminding me of it. You're welcome. I didn't even remember it, which I think is a- And it didn't come out that long ago. No. I saw it at Gold Class.
Starting point is 02:00:58 Why did you do that? Because it was the only available screening before the podcast. And they charged me seven bucks for a Coke. Did they at least get a good feed? I got some sort of mac and cheese situation. It still didn't make Rambo better. It was like a ham and mac and cheese croquette, I think. It was nice.
Starting point is 02:01:15 Okay. Anyway, that didn't even save it. It was a bad movie. It's bad and generic and who cares. And not as good as any of the other ones. Even three, which is bad. Yeah. At least three is like interesting-ish action or they did it or something.
Starting point is 02:01:28 At least it has an identity. Yeah. Which maybe it was just that's all 80s action movies looked like that, but at least it's memorable in that way. This isn't memorable. And all the action is at the end. Yeah. And it's not that good either.
Starting point is 02:01:40 And then he rides into the woods. Can't remember. You'd never go to just south of the border you'd never go there daniel i'll have to kill you as soon as i look at you yeah yeah no good no i'm not no i'm not blaming all mexicans but just uh just a select few i know the cartels are terrible just all just all the ones that yeah and we didn't even see the revenge he got on some of the people the revenge wasn't even good you're right yeah uh and also off the back of like creed and creed 2 yeah all right and you know the good stuff that he can do yeah i mean he couldn't just go he's a generic boxing movie let's put rocky in it yeah they did
Starting point is 02:02:14 that already it was called old mates fight or something oh yeah yeah that's right yeah yeah punch olds punch olds yeah um okay well i've got to to say Will Smith has a clone or is a clone. Okay, right. Same. Rambo. Fair enough. Best just a movie. Not something that's terrible. Something that you went, they certainly made that.
Starting point is 02:02:31 Yeah. Godzilla, Hobbs and Shaw, Captain Marvel, and the other Captain Marvel. Shazam Captain Marvel. Yeah. Hobbs and Shaw for me, 100%. Yeah, okay. Yeah. It is.
Starting point is 02:02:43 God, that's such just a movie, isn't it? It's got some more in here if you want, actually. Oh, yeah, go ahead. They've got Rise of Skywalker. Yeah, okay. Yeah. It is. God, that's such just a movie, isn't it? It's- Got some more in here if you want, actually. Oh, yeah, go ahead. I got Rise of Skywalker. Ooh, Far From Home's in here. Ooh, controversial callings. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 02:02:51 You're on slightly thinner ice than you were before, which was very thick ice. Immensely thick ice. Alita Battle Angel is also on here. Ooh. That's pretty just- I think that's- Takes a swing, though, doesn't it? That's doing some stuff.
Starting point is 02:03:01 Takes a swing, yeah. I'm going to say that's- I'm not going to put that on there for me. Yeah, I don't think anything swayed me off Hobbs and Shaw at this point. Yeah, Hobbs and Shaw, yeah. Statham, love him. Rock, love him. Elba, love him.
Starting point is 02:03:11 The lady, she's good too. Whoever that is, can't remember. I can't remember either. Yeah. She's maybe in one of the Mission Impossible movies. Helen Mirren, love her. Love her. Bless her and love her.
Starting point is 02:03:21 Good cast in an astoundingly generic movie. If this were on Netflix with a no-name cast, I'd never watch it. Yeah, fair enough. I wouldn't have watched this if we didn't do this. Yeah. So thanks a lot, Hobbs and Shaw, for coming out at a time when I was doing a podcast. Could have been great. And again, off the back of...
Starting point is 02:03:37 Some of the Fast and Furious movies. Fast and Furious 7 and to some extent 8. Yes. Just not having that many cars in it. There was a transforming motorbike. And there was a bunch of trucks that all got linked together on a helicopter, but besides that. That was crap, though.
Starting point is 02:03:53 Yeah, it was crap. Before we do, Collings has snuck this in, best podcast, and it's just got the weekly planet. I disagree. There's not even an other option. Yeah, right. But, look, if that's the only option, then we've got to go with it, don't we? That's true, yeah.
Starting point is 02:04:05 Thank you to everybody who voted for it who had to because you have to vote for it to complete the form. Yeah, good. Best movie though. I'm ready. These are my top four. Okay. Parasite, Iron Mother, Endgame, Dolomite.
Starting point is 02:04:17 Okay, wow. There's a streaming on there? Yes. Yeah, wow. Is Ad Astra just a movie? I think there's interesting elements to it. At the top there is. But then at the end it's like, Dad, Is Ad Astra just a movie? I think there's interesting elements to it. Up top there is.
Starting point is 02:04:29 But then at the end it's like, Dad, why are you trucking space? It's just an extended metaphor for people won't do anything to impress their dads. Yes. It won't work because your dad's crazy. I've got a much bigger list here if you want. Okay. Ad Astra, Aladdin, Alita, Avengers Endgame, Booksmart, Brightburn, Captain Marvel, Detective Pikachu. I already know what my answer is. It's coming up. It's a knives out probably. Alchemist. Okay. Frozen 2, Glass, Godzilla, Booksmart, Brightburn, Captain Marvel, Detective Pikachu. I already know what my answer is. It's coming up.
Starting point is 02:04:45 It's Knives Out, probably. Alchemist, okay. Frozen 2, Glass, Godzilla, The Irishman, It Chapter 2, John Wick 3. We haven't really talked about it. I thought it was fine. Yeah. Jojo Rabbit, Joker, Jumanji, Knives Out, The Lighthouse, Marriage Story, Midsommar, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, Parasite, Portrait of a Lady, Shazam, Spider-Man, Spies in Disguise,
Starting point is 02:05:00 Star Wars, Toy Story 4, X-Men, Dark Phoenix, Us, Zombieland, Double Tap. For me, it's Knives Out. I might say. Colourful and fun and a proper movie and a proper murder mystery, but like taking a little skew. Ensemble. Great ensemble. Everybody's great in it, even, you know,
Starting point is 02:05:22 and some surprising newcomers as well as very established actors. Chris Evans gets a chance to play against type, which I always enjoy. Daniel Craig gets a chance to play against type. He's very good at this. And he's built that weird. I hope they make another one. I see. There we go.
Starting point is 02:05:37 That's what I'm talking about. I would watch another Benoit Blanc murder mystery. Bring back some of the characters. Give Chris Evans' character some information that he needs or some of the characters. Give Chris Evans character some information that he needs or some of the other characters. So you go back and see him? Sure. Fair enough. I'm going to say Parasite. But also maybe Dolomite.
Starting point is 02:05:54 But also maybe Endgame. But also Knives Out. Good year for movies. Maybe not a great year for blockbusters. But a good year for movies in general. I like movies. Me too. Is that it?
Starting point is 02:06:07 I think it's it. Oh, thank God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Anyway, I can do the- You saved the previous two hours, right? Yes. Okay, good.
Starting point is 02:06:14 So let's do, should I do what people have written? Yes, please. Oh, add the write-ins. Yes, please. Yes. So that came out this year, Jessica Jones 3. Best movie I haven't seen, Jojo Rabbit. Best comic book movie, Endgame.
Starting point is 02:06:26 Worst comic book movie, Dark Phoenix. Mason's just opening a chocolate, everybody, for set and celebration. Best reboot, Pikachu. Worst reboot, Lion King. Movie not a reboot or sequel, Knives Out. Best sequel, prequel, another movie, Endgame. Unnecessary live action remake of A Better Thing, Aladdin.
Starting point is 02:06:44 Game is on, Terminator. Best hair, Captain America in Endgame. Worst hair, Hawkeye, obviously. Best rig, Thor. If anybody has some other ideas for worst hair, please let us know. Yes. Best rig, Thor.
Starting point is 02:06:57 Best cameo, not Henry Cavill in Superman. Best CGI acting, aging, Nick Fury in Captain Marvel. Other best CGI, Spider-Man Illusion Sequence in Mysterio, worst CGI, Cats, best villain, Thanos, best hulking, Grey Boy, mo-cap, Mysterio, best trailer, Wonder Woman, worst trailer, Cats, best animated, Toy Story 4, best game adaptation, Pikachu, best the ending, best fucked the ending, Game of Thrones, best Star Wars, Mandalorian, Best Horror, Us, Comedy, Booksmart, Murder Mysteries, Knives Out. Streaming, El Camino.
Starting point is 02:07:29 Streaming Service, Netflix. Biggest Disappointment, Game of Thrones. Stop Making, Disney Live Action Remakes. Best TV Show, Mandalorian. Best Comic, Spider-Man Life Story. Best Game, Fallen Order. Best Meme, Big Sandwich. There we go.
Starting point is 02:07:41 Most Anticipated, Tenet, which we'll probably talk about now, what we anticipated. That'll be our next episode after we take a break. And worst movie is Cats and best movie is Avengers Endgame at 43%. So there you go. Well done, everyone. We did it yet again. We've done it again and never again because it's the last episode.
Starting point is 02:08:00 All the awards will be distributed. That's right. That was a long one. Oh, my God. But the show's not over yet, Mason. Do you know why? Because we have more segments in awards will be distributed. That's right. Oh, that was a long one. Oh, my God. But the show's not over yet, Mason. Do you know why? Because we have more segments in our podcast? Yes, that's right.
Starting point is 02:08:09 Specifically, what we're reading. And then what we're going to read. I'm doing a thing. What are we reading today? What are we reading today, Mason? I mentioned Spider-Man's pal, Jimmy Olsen. It is Matt Fraction. Superman's pal? Sorry, yeah. He's got many friends, right? I mentioned Spider-Man's pal, Jimmy Olsen. It is Matt Fraction. Superman's pal?
Starting point is 02:08:26 Sorry, yeah. He's got many friends, all right? I bet he does, yeah. I'm starting to read that, which I'm looking forward to. Also, I'm going to try and read a book over the summer. Incredible. I know. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:08:37 Also, like I said, suggestible, the other podcast I do with my wife, Claire, we went through a bunch of stuff that we loved from this year. Yes. Which, if you want some recommendations over the summer, might be a good place to go. Different stuff from here for a lot of it. I finished watching Rick and Morty because it's on Netflix in Australia. What did you think?
Starting point is 02:08:53 It's so good. It's a good show. I want them to get to the arcing story now. Right, okay, yeah. Because these were just a series of unconnected adventures, really. Yeah. Yeah, there wasn't any overarching story in these. Or is there? Is there? I don't know. Okay. I don't, there wasn't any over-riding story in these. Or is there?
Starting point is 02:09:05 Is there? I don't know. Okay. I don't think there was. I'm sure there's an Easter egg video. These are very dense episodes. I feel like they've gone, okay, we should put absolutely as much effort into the B plot as the A plot.
Starting point is 02:09:18 Yes. Sometimes it was just Jerry's trapped in the house or something. He's really... He's out there. He's out there, yeah. You're right. I did love the heist episode. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:09:26 Just a series of people putting together heists, even though I love heist movies. I know you do. But that's what makes me able to laugh at the heist episode. No, I don't laugh at the things that I like, Mason. I take them very seriously. Yeah, that's a good point. You can absolutely do that.
Starting point is 02:09:38 I think that's it for me. I'm going to watch The Witcher this week. Yeah, cool. Excellent. Well, then let's do the letters theme. I know we're speeding through it, Mason, but it's the end of the year. Okay, let's speed through it. The classic one was letters, oh letters.
Starting point is 02:09:51 We love you, some letters. They're only a day away. I know they're here right now. We're going to do letters. If you don't want to reach the show, hashtag weeklyplanetpod on Twitter or weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com. One of these I've already talked about. Thomas says, I will up my Patreon donation to $10 a month
Starting point is 02:10:13 if you guys see and review cats on the podcast. We will try and do it when we get back. So make good on that promise, Thomas. Thomas, the big promiser man, always promising things. Does he follow through? We don't Thomas. Thomas. Yeah. The big promiser man. Always promising things. Does he follow through? We don't know. Don't know.
Starting point is 02:10:29 What have you got? This is from Sarah King. Says, hello from Texas. Hello from Texas. I'm curious to know what you all think about the idea of movie and TV shows being so easily accessible nowadays. I love it. Like knowing well in advance through Twitter or even movie news sites that an actor is signed on or seen filming a movie or tv show spoiling the potential surprise factor when seeing the movie in the theaters for the first time i mean we it says you guys make
Starting point is 02:10:51 half your show about movie and tv news and the information provided by the accessibility which is great but sometimes i feel like all the info available makes it a little less fun to go see something that's i think that's that's absolutely i think some people like that though some people don't mind being spoiled so i know who's in it going in. Yeah, right, right, right. Some people love that. I'm in the middle on that somewhere. Yeah, same.
Starting point is 02:11:11 Yeah. I'm very interested, but also there's some things I'm like, ah, we shouldn't know that. But I still think I still get surprised, though. There's still some things that surprise me. Like it's good to know, for example, that Kamal Nanjiani got absolutely ripped for Eternals. That's all I want to know.
Starting point is 02:11:22 Because, again, if we went into Eternals and he was ripped, all of a sudden we just start screaming i don't know what i don't know exactly right i don't know i i wonder how much of that also is is leaks and how much it is is that's the other thing isn't it because a lot of it is leaks and not official casting necessarily yeah yeah but is is there a way though to to get more because often it's like oh we're seeing this character he's on he's on uh he's on set and we've there's some candid photos of him and he's wearing this costume or whatever yes that means we know it's set in this time exactly i mean isn't there a way to do a more closed set i often wonder if some of that is like well we put it we'll put them out there
Starting point is 02:11:59 yes and we'll put them out on the street in the silly costume and then people will start talking about that kind of thing. Surely there's a better way. You know what I mean? There's got to be a better way. If you want to conceal this sort of stuff, surely they would just close set or bring them in in a blacked out SUV. Which they do, obviously.
Starting point is 02:12:17 Yeah, which I think maybe I'd be more in favour of. There's got to be a better way. There's got to be a better way, exactly. Yeah, fair enough. So, yeah, I don't know how much of this, I'd probably still read a bunch of this stuff. Like the main stuff on the main sites, I'd probably still read anyway, even if I wasn't doing this, because I always kind of did anyway.
Starting point is 02:12:31 Yeah. This is from last tweet of the year. Erotic neurotic. This is a spoiler for The Rise of Skywalker. Oh, my goodness, okay. King Ralph or Fred Claus style movies centered on Emperor Palpatine's incompetent son. Yeah, cool.
Starting point is 02:12:46 Okay. You up for that? I think so, yeah. Derek Palpatine. I think we decided his name was. Yes. What do you think he gets up to? I think it's like an Austin Powers, Dr. Evil, then his son situation.
Starting point is 02:12:58 Oh, okay. Right, right, right. So Ian McDiarmid is in this. Yes. Okay, right. Cool, cool, cool. And his son just wants to play Space Xbox. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:13:06 And his dad's like, we've got to build it. And he's always starting a space band or whatever. And he's like, man, I'm getting all these cool gigs. Our band must be so good. And it's just like, no, your dad's the emperor. That's how you're doing that. That's how. Your big dumbass.
Starting point is 02:13:18 Your big dumbass, exactly. Shot you out of a tube. You're just a weird clone man or whatever. Yeah, right. Yeah. I would watch that movie. I feel like there was an era in Star Wars, probably around Tag and Bink in the 90s,
Starting point is 02:13:30 if that was from the 90s, where they would have made a comic of this. Now they won't. They take everything very seriously. Yeah, right, right. Okay, yeah. Like a very silly take on this. Yeah, right, right.
Starting point is 02:13:41 We can only hope Mad Magazine, unless they got, I think they got cancelled as well. We can only hope that they bring back Mad Magazine for this one issue. Right. This one thing that we want. Yeah, Derek Palpatine. This is an email from Charlotte Sadler. Every year she makes a weekly Planet Advent calendar.
Starting point is 02:13:57 Oh, yes. It's in the Planet Broadcasting Great Mates Facebook group if you want to join in. But that's been going on through December. It's got all heaps of references throughout the year. Oh goodness corn of coblen but that wasn't even on the list abby mcbeal big sandwich oh i can't believe abby mcbeal wasn't on the list that's one of my faves yeah football field all sorts of oh my goodness robert batten bat yep people unsubscribing from your youtube channel
Starting point is 02:14:23 all the greats actually a comment from that like did you take an actual comment no just Robert Battenbat. Yep. People unsubscribing from your YouTube channel. All the greats. Is there actually a comment from that? Did you take an actual comment? No, just this unsubscribe from Mr. Sunny movies. Anyway, good. Thank you, Charlotte. Fantastic everywhere. I was building a hate mail, but it's just not quite that good.
Starting point is 02:14:36 Okay, well, we want some primo hate mail. I'm looking through it. I'm like, these are okay. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, is that the show? Let's see. Just say like, these are okay. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, is that the show? Let's see. Just say yes, Mason.
Starting point is 02:14:47 No. Look, okay, this one just says Sean Maguire. It's from Sean Maguire. It says, the Rise of Skywalker is highly entertaining, but only in the same way the room is entertaining. Sure. Sean Maguire, the same guy, the lead guy in Meet the Spartans? Yeah, that's who it is.
Starting point is 02:15:01 Okay, good. I actually saw a really interesting email about the Rise of Skywalker, which I'm going to try and find right now i can't find it but basically i'm sorry i don't have in front of me but it's somebody who's i think he was about 15 and he kind of grew up and this is his current trilogy and he loved the rise of skywalker and the point of the email was that the people who grew up with the prequels love the prequels the people who grew up with the originals love the originals and the people like even if you, there's going to be people in 10, 15 years who are going to really be like, this is the definitive Star Wars trilogy.
Starting point is 02:15:29 This is my kind of Star Wars trilogy. I grew up with the sequels. Maybe that's it, yeah. The Force Awakens was the first Star Wars film I'd properly watched when my dad dragged me to the cinema when I was 14. This is Rachel C. I thought it was fantastic,
Starting point is 02:15:38 so I went back to watch the originals and obviously loved those too, et cetera. I loved The Last Jedi and also loved The Rise of Skywalker. I guess the sequel trilogy is the one I grew up with and it's the one I feel most attachment to. So I think for people like me whose introduction to Star Wars was the sequel trilogy, this film will be well received
Starting point is 02:15:52 because it's the fun kind of emotional culmination of a genuinely solid trilogy. There. I thought that was really good. Yeah. Yeah. It's good that you like what you like even if it's a crap thing. Just kidding.
Starting point is 02:16:04 I like most of the sequel trilogy. Yeah, right. Anyway, yeah. I just think that's really interesting, and I think that's probably going to – we're going to all – like this is going to get a different perspective in 10, 15 years, hopefully when we're all dead, Mason. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:16:16 One can hope so. I know. Is that the end of the show for this year? That is the end of the show, I think. Bring us home. Thank you, everybody, for listening and telling your friends about our podcast possibly in a positive way we would definitely appreciate that uh thank you for for uh subscribing and thank you for giving us a nice review james you have a nice review this is from uh lu one the loo it just says dope five stars you can do it in app says these guys are
Starting point is 02:16:39 awesome always look forward to monday so and get my weekly planet fix. This one says stools, but the O's are O's or vice versa. This podcast is like an albatross. Five stars, really it is. Albatross is like a bad omen, isn't it, for sailors? Yeah, yeah. Cool, yeah. Still got five stars. We'll take it.
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Starting point is 02:17:39 There's a new one coming. There's a new one out right now, right? There is, of course. It's called Only Wrong Answers. Only Wrong Answers. But if people in Australia would know Kate McLennan and Kate McCarthy. Yeah. McCartney.
Starting point is 02:17:49 The Kates. The Kates. I think I said McCartney, but I said it wrong, didn't I? Yes. Love take me down to the streets. Anyway, they were part of... They created two shows, The Catering Show. Yes.
Starting point is 02:17:59 Which was kind of a piss take of... Morning television? Well, cooking shows. And then they had a show called Get Cracking, which was basically a piss take of morning shows and they had a show called Get Crackin' which was basically a piss take of morning shows and they're really terrific and they have their very own podcast right now and they answer questions
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Starting point is 02:18:42 I was going to say a box set. One side is young Will Smith. The other side is Carlton from The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air. But he's old. But he's old. He's old. The old one. He's the one who's suing Fortnite or whatever it is because they stole his dance.
Starting point is 02:18:53 But apparently you can't trademark that. That's disappointing. Yeah, great stuff. You should be able to trademark your dance. I agree. Yeah, thank you to the Bruton Ambassadors. It's going to rank them for all our musical themes. Yes.
Starting point is 02:19:04 We have t-shirts on tpublic.com. Just search for the Weekly Planet. You can find all sorts of them. I saw someone on the group. They had that Nick Mason number one party boy t-shirt. They're out in public with it, which is very, very impressive. Very impressive.
Starting point is 02:19:17 I love it personally. Wish I had your name here. I'll find it for next time. That's about it, I think. That's about it. See you in a couple of weeks. There will be a best of episode that Collings is putting together.
Starting point is 02:19:27 We'll record an intro and outro for that and probably an ad. If you have someone on the fence about listening to the podcast, play them that and see if it makes any sense at all. It won't. Give them a better episode. Yeah, right?
Starting point is 02:19:37 Yeah. Send them the Batman v Superman episode. Exactly. Or even the Star Wars one, I feel. Yeah, right? That's a more recent kind of one that they might be interested in. Also, we're going to be taking a couple weeks break after that.
Starting point is 02:19:47 I'm not exactly sure. I never know. Yeah, but we're not going to be around, but then we'll be back. Yes. At some point. And there'll be some YouTube channel stuff sporadically maybe. Cool. I don't know what I'm doing.
Starting point is 02:19:57 I'm so tired, Mason. We'll take some time off. That was my plan. That was my plan. Nice. You should take some time off too. Okay. You've got to go to work though also. I do have to go to work. It's true. Yeah. All right, guys. Nice. You should take some time off too. Okay. You've got to go to work though also.
Starting point is 02:20:06 I do have to go to work. It's true. Yeah. All right, guys. We'll see you in the new year. Grab that jam, you guys. Have a great end of 2019. Safe and happy.
Starting point is 02:20:14 Safe and happy. We'll see you next decade. See you in the next decade, guys. See you. It's just, we'll see you in a couple of weeks. And when they come back, we'll be like, I haven't seen you this year. Oh, good stuff.
Starting point is 02:20:32 Good stuff. Oh my goodness, we should have opened with that. Great. Yeah. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. I mean, if you want. It's up to you.
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