The Weekly Planet - 32 The Amazing Spider-man 2 is...

Episode Date: May 5, 2014

This week we discuss the new Star Wars cast, Justice League, Terminator Genesis and more!Plus we share our irrelevant thoughts on The Amazing Spider-man 2. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Weekly Planet, official podcast of comicbookmovie.com. My name is James, junior editor at that website. With me as always, my co-host, Nick Mason. Fantastic. You put a little twist at the end there. I did. That was great.

Hello everyone. Welcome listeners. Yes. Do you do that on autopilot now? Nick Mason fantastic you put a little twist at the end there I did that was great hello everyone welcome listeners yes do you do that on autopilot now are you still reading from it no that's autopilot that's amazing

yeah because I remember it took me many weeks to get that right but even now I don't always yeah yeah but yeah great stuff

what if comicbookmovie.com disown us and we're no longer the official podcast I don't know well you know what though we've got a pretty good fan base now. True.

So I think we'd live on. We'd, you know, hobble along. We'd hobble along, exactly. To our inevitable death. Exactly, yes. But yeah, I apologize. My voice is a bit off today. I don't know if you noticed.

Mine's also a little off. Yeah. It's nearly winter here, folks. Nah, it's the worst. Snow and bunting and Christmas. It's all going to be happening soon. I apologize for my voice because it's a little croaky, and at some point I'm going to keep eating these Easter eggs that are here,

these leftover Easter eggs. Real crinkly. Yeah, real crinkly. It's going to get... I went to the wedding last night, Mason. The wedding of the century. Not your wedding. No.

That's why there's a mosquito next to your head. It's up above you. I'm going to leave it. It can sink right in me skull drink me me goodness me bloody goodness absolutely yeah now uh as long as it doesn't suck out my knowledge of silver surfer comics from the 90s it'll be fine you know at a wedding sometimes oh no fire lord it's going i don't know who that is. No, it's fine. I didn't read a lot of Silver Surfer in the 90s or ever.

Good. Great movie though. No. You're right. But yeah, do you want to see what I drew in the wedding book? Yes. And then took a photo of? This is a secret by the way.

So if they ever ask you about this, you know the people that did get married, don't tell them I did this. Okay. Nice. Great. Are you familiar with Dick Butt

I'm familiar with Dick Butt that is a very that is an amazing that is dead on yeah yeah I don't know if you know this I used to be able to draw pretty well when I was a kid

but it's not something I developed did you do it freehand or did you I freehanded that did you google it first no I googled it but I didn't have it in front of me I went yep

and then I drew it that's great thank you ladies and gentlemen on two people's most sacred and happiest of days my co-host Drew Dickbutt in their wedding registry. Thanks.

Good work. Please look up that picture if you haven't seen it, by the way. It makes me laugh way too hard. I know it's been around forever, but my god. Classic. Now, Mason. Yes. Zack Snyder. It's been revealed that Zack Snyder, director of Batman vs. Superman, Watchmen, Sucker Punch,

The Zombie One, 300, other things. He's going to be directing Justice League. Oh. That's been confirmed. Locked in. Are you surprised? Not at all.

Me neither. Absolutely not. Hey, just on the subject. This is a friend of mine. She's a comedian. And this is one of her official kind of press photographs. That's it, right? Yeah.

And this is what I put on it. Stick butt. Stick butt butt how about that official mascot yeah i think so yeah great good yeah yeah anyway so zack's not zack's not his back well that's not surprising at all yeah why would it be well that's right are you happy that the universe is in his is in his hands the dc universe well partly in his hands um yeah i guess i think because nobody likes sucker punch right no well i mean i haven't seen it yeah yeah but maybe he works best when the framework already exists okay like if you can't i'm sure dc will have some sort of a mandate where you can you know you can evolve the characters you can do whatever but you can't you know add your own you can't change the world too drastically. And I think maybe that sucker punches him with no filters

and nobody to say, hey, you can't do any of this because it's ridiculous and kind of super creepy. So this will probably be great. Because you look at like 300 Watchmen, they're dead on, really. I mean, I know people are like, oh, Watchmen, some people don't like it. I love it. You also like it. I liked it. Yeah, yeah. So you're exactly right., Watchmen, some people don't like it. I love it. You also like it. I liked it. Yeah, yeah.

So you're exactly right. Within the framework, then he'll probably do okay. Yeah. But there's a scheduled release date for Justice League. Nearly one year and a day, or exactly one year and a day after Batman v Superman, they say, May 5th, 2017. Okay. Which fuels the rumor that they're going to film these back to back. Because he already seems to be assembling the Justice League cast.

Right, right, right. So, you know. Yeah, yeah. Excited? Yeah. Good. Yeah. Yeah.

You know, they have 11 DC films in the works at the moment. 11. So you've got Batman v Superman. You've got Justice League. Do you want to hear some of the other ones? Yeah. You sure? Yeah. Let's just move on. Okay. Do you want to hear some of the other ones? Yeah. You sure? Yeah.

Let's just move on. Okay. Do you want to hear them? Yes. Okay. Fables. Okay. I'm on board for that.

Me too. Yep. I've been reading a lot of fables lately. It's great. Sandman. That's going to let people down. Big time. I think fables they could do because it's quite, you know, it's-

Fabulous. It's fabulous, obviously. It could work. It's fabulous and there's a lot of big ideas in it, but it's all kind of grounded. And they're all like, you know, they're all real people having real problems, but they're also supernatural. Exactly. Fabulous. But Sandman is too amorphous and it's too kind of up in the air.

There's more concepts than there are actual people, I think. Okay. I don't think there's too much story to pack into two hours. I think it's going to let people down. But let's see how it goes. I think Fables would obviously, like The Walking Dead, would work better. Well, not that The Walking Dead show is great.

It's fine. Are you eating Dem eggs, Mason? Yes, I am. It's the mandate of this podcast. I'll do it subtly. It's fine. That's fine. I'd love to see Fables as a TV show,

but Fables would... There's wolf transformations and magic, and you couldn't do it. So that movie, I mean, we just have to go with that. Shazam? It used to be the go-to. Like, people would be like, oh, how about this guy? Make a great HBO miniseries. And then that would generally not make sense because they didn't do, like, that many supernatural...

It was mostly ground-level drama kind of stuff. But now they do Walking Dead and stuff like that many supernatural it was mostly ground level drama kind of stuff but now they do soup they would do walking dead and stuff like that that's true but the walking dead is just kind of zombies but fables is everything dragons and magic and yeah and parallel realms yeah and all sorts of shenanigans beanstalks and beanstalks and fun this fun certainly it's fabulous yeah um shazam okay yep all right's fabulous. Shazam? Okay, yep. All right. Well, Captain Marvel, Shazam, we Shazam now, you know. Yeah. So that'd be cool. Metal Men.

Okay. Which I haven't read at all. Apparently it's good. I didn't know they're back. They're back? Are they back in the new 52? I don't know. In a big way?

Yes. Great. What we reading? Well, yeah. Sorted. Yeah, okay. That's very much a C-list yeah i can't see them being a big people nobody's excited about the metal no do you think i guess nobody was excited for

iron man exactly that's what i was gonna say yeah yeah good egg yeah top notch uh hundred bullets yep okay good i started to read uh hundred bullets i stopped though for whatever reason i remember it didn't grab me. You were afraid of bullets. I am very afraid of bullets. But I will go back to it, but I think maybe I wasn't in the right headspace, like most of the time. Also, there's a lot of storyline to that. Yeah.

There's a lot of... There's a lot of... Just casually eating that egg. I've discovered the futility of eating a chocolate Easter egg while on microphone. Takes longer than you think. Don't people hate

that on podcasts? Yeah, they hate it. People eating? Yeah. Okay, fine. Next week. Maybe our audience love it.

Yeah. Everybody turns off. We'll find out. 100 Bullets has got a lot of standalone stories that have sort of eventually built towards the

main narrative arc. Again, great for a miniseries. Ah. And you could do it as a miniseries, couldn't you? Yeah, you definitely could. Yeah.

But then I guess you'd have to swap out a lot of main characters. Why's that? Because the, you know, each storyline encapsulates a certain group of people and then some of them may or may not be killed by hundreds of bullets. And then... A hundred bullets. One hundred bullets, precisely. And then you've got to move on to the next group.

So I don't know. I guess if they wanted to make this... I don't know. It might work as a standalone film. Sure. But you'd have to get in the whole... Somebody receives a briefcase of 100 bullets. They exact their revenge on people.

Yeah. And then why is this happening? Okay, yeah. And then that plot line all in two hours. So I don't know. Yeah. And the other one is uh justice league uh dark which has been talked about the magic one yeah um there are some rumored ones because there are

some gaps in there for some other movies probably all of those won't happen i know about counting i know you've been can 11 there they say that uh there's an aquaman movie in the works that's been rumored for a while um remember i've said Marvel should do Namor and whoever gets that out. Just put them at the post real quick. But a few people wrote in, including Austin Bell. He says that Universal Studios owns Namor. So I was wondering about that. So maybe they'll do that.

So they can make a Universal Studios ride about Namor. But that's it. Yeah. Also, they said there are no current plans for a Wonder Woman film. Just make the Wonder Woman film. So... Just make the Wonder Woman film. What's wrong with you, Pete? Just do it.

If Ang Lee's Hulk can make like $100 million in the first week or whatever it did, Wonder Woman will easily make that. Even if it sucks, and it probably will, you can just reboot it in a couple of years. That's right. Maybe it's kind of like they've got the yips. They don't want to do the first one. Yeah.

Once they're out of the gate with the first one, they can do one a year. Yeah, yeah. But until they're out of the gate. That's it. I guess the balance has to be she can't be one-dimensional and she can't be... A woman.

Yeah, exactly. That's probably the prime problem, yeah. I don't know. I guess there's a balance. You can't be... I think because studios have been so burned by female-centric superhero films. But that's their own fault because they're never good or they're rarely good. Catwoman, the worst probably.

Haven't seen it. Electra, guy with tattoos that come to life. Crap film. I think studios think that people don't want to see it but make it good and then we will see it we don't want to see bad versions of that

there's nothing wrong with Catwoman as a character there's nothing wrong with Elektra as a character it's just those ones people have gone oh well nobody nobody wants to see these

so we'll make them low priority films exactly like the one we talked about last week Lucy female centric

super villain superhero character, whatever. That's going to totally work. Everybody's going to see that. Yeah. Anyway. On to different news, Mason. Gal Gadot. Gal Gadot, yes.

Are you familiar with Matt Smith? The Doctor Who? Yes. 11th or 12th? They changed it recently? Mr. Doctor Who. Mr. Doctor Who. I know Mr. Doctor Who.

Yeah, yeah. Well, he's joined Terminator Genisys, the Terminator reboot. Oh, boy. Yeah. It's going to be a lot of memes. It's going to be so many memes. It's going to be so many mashup t-shirts. I hate it already.

I hate it. They say he's got a new character. He does time travel too. This is the best. He does the best time travel. Shut up. Me? Yeah. Good. this is the best he does the best time travel shut up me? yeah good

they say he's a new character and he's got a strong connection to John Connor they say he's gonna be like maybe it's Doctor Who maybe it's the Doctor he's also travelled through time

that's you again that's me yes he's got a strong connection to John Connor so he could be like a general or a captain or whatever in the future, people are saying. He doesn't look like a general or a captain, does he?

Just, you know, he does have that kind of potato head. He does have a potato head, you're right. I love him. For me, it'd be hard to get past that he is Doctor Who. Because even when you see him in real life... Again, we're saying Doctor Who for jokes and funnies. We know it's the Doctor, everyone. I know, yeah, exactly.

Don't send emails. He's exactly like his character in real life. So I don't know if I could get past that. Right, okay. I don't care. I'm happy to see him. He'd be good. Also, Schwarzenegger.

Maybe he's like the underground resistance DJ so they can have underground raves. Matrix Reloaded style. That would be so sweet. Yeah. Apparently the new Terminator, it's got a kickoff. You know how Bill Paxton's killed at the start of Terminator 1? Spoiler alert.

Uh-huh. Well, Arnold Schwarzenegger travels through time and like... Pulls his heart out. Pulls his heart. Yeah, yeah. The older Terminator then arrives just after that. Huh. And puts his heart back in.

Yes. He puts Sam Worthington's heart in. Just plugs it right in. So, yeah, because you know how they run parallel, those movies. So, yeah. And he is going to be an aged Terminator. We've talked about this before. But, yeah, he's looking good, Schwarzenegger.

I mean, you know, he seems like a real prick. Yeah, absolutely. Good for him. I cannot wait for the audio commentary. Oh, it's going to be the best. Because you'll have to explain what was happening in the... He might just start explaining what was happening in the you might just start explaining what was

happening in Terminator 1 yeah that's right happy May the 4th Mason oh yeah that's been May the 4th be with you do you get it? yeah it's May isn't it

just so you guys know it's May Day yes it's May Day I understand there was a 4 hour pause there I edited out Mason just went over that and he said...

I had to puzzle over things. Yeah. I had to build one of those obsessive walls, you know, with post-it notes and photos and bits of string just to try and divine what it meant. But yes, it's Star Wars Day, right? It's Star Wars Day. That's right. As we record this.

Yeah, yeah. Because it's May the 4th, well, it's actually May the 3rd in the States at the moment. Yeah. So there's probably going to be some big Star Wars news happening. But there's already been big Star Wars news earlier this week, Mason, as we discussed briefly before the podcast. You were here, you remember. In our brief non-podcast social time. That's right. Yes.

The minutes we have per week. That's it. But the original cast, or they announced it, the new cast, as suspected, the original cast is returning. Nearly in full. Funnily enough, no Lando mentioned yet. No Billy Dee Williams. That's not to say he's not going to appear, but he wasn't up that table read.

Because if anyone's, I'm sure everyone's seen the picture online, a lovely black and white photo of the old new cast and producers and director all together. Why is it black and white, I wonder? Because it's... We have colour cameras now, surely. Well, they're expensive.

That's actually a really good point, yeah. So we've got Harrison Ford back, obviously. Yep. Carrie Fisher. Yep. Mark Hamill. I want to see Mark Hamill, what he looks like right now. I've been looking for a current photo of him.

Isn't there a current... Well, no, because, you know, his weight kind of fluctuates or whatever. Oh, right, okay. And I want to know what he looks like right now. Is he bearded in that photo? Yeah, I think he might be. Yeah, I'm a baller. Me too.

Anthony Daniels, who's C-3PO. Kenny Baker, who's R2-D2. And Peter Mayhew. Now, a few of those I feel like were kind of obligation casting. Like, for example, Kenny Baker must be close to 70. There's no way he can still fit in that. I'm sure he could still fit in it but like they could just have a robot now on a remote control yeah so i think it's very much

kind of like i'm pretty sure the bits in the new in the prequels where he's flying around on his little rocket boosters not actually you reckon yeah not actually yeah yeah yeah so i guess it's nice of them to still do it it But I don't think it's necessary. It could be just they brought him in for the press photo. No, yeah, you're probably right. Yeah, what's he reading at the table read? Yeah, that's a really good point. Oh, my God.

Weekly Planet exclusive. That's it that's pretty good thank you like you know like Peter May I've mentioned this before you can stuff anybody

in that suit that's true let's not kid ourselves not at all but it's good to see them all back hopefully there is going to be a Lando

even if it's only a cameo now the new cast though Mason as you mentioned before yep you said not a lot of chicks bro that's what you said I said precisely that. Yeah.

Do you want to go through them? Okay, go ahead. Adam Driver. From Girls. From Girls. Who was going to be in everything and now he's in this. Yeah. Very excited.

They say he's going to be the Darth Vader style villain, which would be super cool. Okay, sure. All right. Yeah, yeah. John Boyega. From Attack the Block. Attack the Block. Never seen that.

Heard it's amazing. Got to watch it. It's good, yeah. Yeah, yeah. This is Daisy Ridley, the girl. Yes, the Block. Attack the Block. Never seen that. Heard it's amazing. Got to watch it. It's good, yeah. Yeah, yeah. This is Daisy Ridley, the girl. Yes, the girl. The girl. The one girl.

The one girl. She's been in, I've got here in brackets, British TV stuff. Absolutely, yeah. Yeah. I think, because if you look at the photo, what I think it is, I think you can tell who's who by where they're positioned. Oh, okay. Because see how she's sitting in between Carrie Fisher and Harrison Ford?

Yeah, so I think she's their daughter. Right. They have a daughter in the books and whatever. Oscar Isaac also from Drive and Robin Hood. Has there been a lot, there's been a lot of outcry because they're not, because of the expanded universe is not canon anymore, right? A little bit, yeah. It's exploded, right?

I think not. I think more people are kind of okay with it than not because it's impossible to work into the expanded universe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. it's impossible to work into the Expanded Universe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's impossible to write a book in the Expanded Universe now. Right. Like, it's so convoluted. Uh-huh.

But, yeah, I think generally people are okay with it. Also, there's really still only, like, two girls in that. Yeah. Right? There's Mara Jade. Yep. Who's dead. Yep.

Spoiler alert. And, like, a couple of, like, one of Han Solo and... Mon Mothma. Mon Mothma, sure. There's Mon Mothma. Solo. Mon Mothma. Mon Mothma, sure. There's Mon Mothma. There's Mon Mothma. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, I mean, Star Wars has always been a very male-centric kind of thing.

So I guess it's... But see, I don't know, because with J.J. Abrams. J. Abrams. That's what I'm calling him now, J.J. Abrams. J.J. Abrams. That's what I'm calling him now, J. Abrams. When he got Star Trek, it sort of made sense with the first one that there were no women in the cast besides Uhura. Because it was the original series. And there wasn't anybody except Uhura and Nurse Ratched or whatever her name is. Nurse...

Doesn't matter. It's Nurse Ratched. Thank you, good robot. Yes. But in Into Darkness, there definitely should have been some concessions because it's a new universe. They brought in Carol something. They brought in Carol something. To have that shot where she's in the trailer.

And she takes a close-up. In the runway. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. But Star Wars, if you are not going by the expanded universe canon and you can do anything you want. Yeah. Why not more female characters? I agree.

Yeah. Or less. Yeah. universe canon and you can do anything you want yeah why not more female characters i agree yeah or less yeah also more importantly than that different colored lightsabers yes all colors many colors i was on an orange one i want to see white yeah okay cool i know that's kind of weird right yeah i think that'd be cool though yeah white blade i don't know they're apparently there's black lightsaber blades that can cut through other lightsabers. Not in real life. Just so we can go in. You know people keep calling for lightsabers to be real. Never going to happen.

Absolutely not. I feel like the hoverboard is a dream that could possibly one day happen. Yep. Lightsaber never happen. Also really dangerous. Incredibly dangerous. Yeah. You want to hear something

that you couldn't reach the switch for all the warning labels that's right do you want to hear something that will ruin Star Wars forever for you you're assuming it hasn't

already been ruined already fine go ahead okay I saw this on cracked so I can't take credit for this okay but you could win any lightsaber battle like that once before though

so that's fine that's true when you swing your lightsaber down to hit somebody yeah and now you go to block it you turn off your lightsaber down to hit somebody and they go to block it you turn off your lightsaber and then when you go past them you turn it back on

and you cut them in half yeah brilliant every lightsaber battle would be solved yeah that's amazing you're right so yeah there you go weekly planet exclusive

are you familiar with Oscar Isaac they should build that into the combat in the next one absolutely hope you're listening J-brums J-brums J-brums J-brums Are you familiar with Oscar Isaac? They should build that into the combat in the next one. Absolutely. Hope you're listening.

Jabrams, whatever. Jabrams? Jabrams. Jabrams. You can put an actual stutter in there as I do. Jabrams. It's fine. Oscar Isaac.

He's from Drive and Robin Hood. You liked Robin Hood, right? Yeah. Crap, right? Yeah, right. Went forever. They say he's going to be like a Han Solo type. Okay. I'm cool with that.

Andy Serkis. He's a good actor'm cool with that. Andy Serkis. He's a good actor, by the way. Andy Serkis. People assume that he's going to be mo-cap man. Sure, absolutely. Everything that needs to be mo-cap is going to be him. That's what you get Andy Serkis for. Yeah.

So, yeah. I would be very surprised if he wasn't mo-cap. He could be like the Emperor's son. All like, ugh, and kind of scrunched up. Yeah. Don't you picture Andy Serkis all scrunched up? He would be a little scrunched up, yeah. This is actually my favourite bit of casting.

Dom Null Gleeson from Black Mirror. Black Mirror. With Hayley Atwell, he's in that episode. He's in About Time, which I love. That's right, yeah. That was a great film. I enjoyed that a lot. He's terrific. They say he's going to be a Skywalker, like Luke's son. He's also sitting near Luke.

Mark Hamill. I call him Luke. Absolutely, yeah. I think that's a great bit of casting. I love that guy. And I'm glad that he's going to be in more stuff. He apparently found out only the day before that he was going to be in it. So there you go.

And the last one is Max von Sydow. Who's in everything. Who's in everything. He's a villain in everything. He's probably going to be like an imperial general or something I don't know

but yeah he's obviously most famously probably from the exorcist would you say yeah yeah definitely he's 85 they're really Christopher Lee-ing this

you take a risk when you hire someone who's 85 but are they because they can just CGI everything they want that's true yeah yeah

there you go so you know new cast it's a strong Yeah, yeah, yeah. There you go. So, you know, new cast. It's a strong cast, but yeah, not a lot of diversity there. Okay, so I actually, just before we started this, I googled new Star Wars cast to see what would come up. Sure. And I've been linked to the Guardian website. And there's an article today that says,

do we really need another three Star Wars films? Guess what? It's too late. It's happening, all right? But also, more importantly, in the sidebar, there's all sorts of other links. Sure.

This is more importantly. And like of other, you know, other Guardian articles on Star Wars because it clearly is a lot. Yeah. And this one just says,

Lucas talks constantly to Abrams. Yes. That ought to be painful, right? That would be. Would you want to be painful right that would be would you want to be a fly on the wall in those conversations yes really

yes yeah look I mean it remains to be seen how much impact Lucas is going to have on these movies yeah yeah hopefully not much I mean I know people hate on him

and whatever as I guess they should but cut him some slack I guess I guess they should, but cut him some slack, I guess. I guess so. All right. Is that all we want to talk about for Star Wars?

Yeah. There's also a rumor that Daisy Ridley might be Obi-Wan Kenobi's daughter. Oh, that'd be cool. Wait, that doesn't work? No, because she's British. Age-wise, that doesn't work. Nah. You know, time.

Obi-Wan's like... You don't want another... He's probably quite virile. Sure. You don't want another thing He's probably quite virile. Sure. You don't want another thing that Lucas fucked up about Star Wars. Yes. At the end of episode... After I just said, you know, cut him, but she's got his own slack.

But I'm going to say this. Cut this hack some slack, all right? At the end of Star Wars episode three, how old is Obi-Wan? Well, he's bearded. Yeah. Quite old. At the end of Star Wars Episode 3 Ewan McGregor

Oh He'd be 30s? Yeah 40 max Right right Right Then

In A New Hope This really annoyed me Where Grand Moff Tarkin's like Mate is like Fucking Obi-Wan's here Yeah And Grand Moff Tarkin's like That's unlikely

Surely he'd be dead by now Would he? Yeah yeah He'd be like 70 max Right right Like Why would he be dead? Probably like Would he? Yeah, yeah. He'd be like 70 max. Right, right, right. Like, why would he be dead? Probably like due to some sort of misadventure. Like he's been playing with fireworks or something and it's killed him.

Classic Obi-Wan. Yeah, exactly. There's actually a really good Obi-Wan comic. It's a short one. Yeah. It's not canon. Well, obviously none of it is now. Where Darth Maul turns up.

Yep. With robot legs. And like and grabs baby Luke Skywalker. And they have this kind of confrontation and it's incredible. And Owen Lars shoots Darth Maul in the head. Aunt Beru, there's another female character in the Star Wars universe. Killed immediately. Aunt Beru and some of them dance in Slave Girls. The greeny blue ones.

Yes. Yep. I apologise to the Star Wars universe. Sure. Now, Mason, on to... I just want to quickly talk about Godzilla before we launch into Spider-Man this week. Japanese fans think that new Godzilla is too fat. I just read this.

Yes. Godzilla. Have you seen the original Godzilla? Ridiculous. He looks like a lizard crossed with a pear. Like, he's not svelte. He's a pear-shaped man. And you know what?

Everyone's beautiful, but he looks ridiculous. Yeah. He always has looked ridiculous. It's part of it. Yeah. He looks like a... Yeah. Audiences, modern-day audiences cannot deal with a Godzilla who looks ridiculous. Like, in his first appearance, if he looks like that, people will laugh. Yeah. Audiences, modern day audiences cannot deal with a Godzilla who looks ridiculous.

Like in his first appearance, if he looks like that, people will laugh. Yeah. And tweet about it. And they'll take photos in the cinema. And they'll tweet at everybody, hey, look how ridiculous Godzilla looks now. Yeah. And nobody will see it. Exactly.

He looks better now. Yeah, he does. He's taller. He's fatter. He's more confident. He's more confident. Exactly. He's embraced what makes him him.

Yes. So, yeah, yeah. A lot of clips. Exactly. He's embraced what makes him him. Yes. So, yeah, yeah. A lot of clips coming online now. You can see quite a bit of Godzilla. There was one recently where he goes to fight the flying Godzilla. That's got a name. I'm just going to call it Flying Godzilla. It's like a bird looking thing.

Floodzilla. Mothra. It's not Mothra. It's something else. Okay. I don't know. Don't know then. I don't know anything about Godzilla, so we should do an episode on it though.

Yeah, okay. But not see any Godzilla movies. No, no. I remember playing the NES Godzilla game. Oh, yeah? And it was... He's an enormous sprite. Yeah.

Like an enormous can of Sprite. Yeah, like an enormous can of Sprite. It was a weird cross-promotion. But he just walks slowly along the bottom of the screen. Yeah. Just swinging his tail. And that's it. Pretty much.

That's the game. You can shoot fire. That's pretty good, I guess. Do you fight Mechagodzilla? You do. Good. Yeah. Well that's it. Pretty much. That's the game. You can shoot fire. That's pretty good, I guess. Do you fight Mechagodzilla? You do. Good. Well, there you go. Mason.

Yes, that's me. Before we talk about The Amazing Spider-Man 2, you're familiar with Avi Arad. He's the producer of all Spider-Man movies. Yes. People hate him, and he knows people hate him. Great. Right?

He has shot down any chance of seeing anyone else but Peter Parker take on the Spider-Man mantle. Spider-Man mantle. So not Miles Morales. No Miles Morales. That's disappointing. No Ben Parker. Yeah, yeah.

The Ben Parker? Ben Reilly, sorry. Yeah, yeah, uh-huh. None of that. Boo. Yeah. So, he's like, it's very much a Peter Parker story, which it is, but I feel like, and I've said this a thousand times, we've watched the same Spider-Man movie again and again.

Boy, have we. Let's just... Why can't we see something different yeah why can't we but yeah because even um andrew garfield's like you know what i would love to see that yeah that'd be a great kind of way to let the franchise go on and whatever because he won't do it forever so there there you go you can even he'd have just miles morales and then he is in a separate universe. Or they just... You could do a Spider-Man crossover film with different Spider-Men. Yeah, yeah.

That would be incredible, right? You could have Miles have his origin story and then not have either of them die. And they just protect separate parts of the city. Yep. Because New York's pretty big. As we know. Yeah. Being from New York ourselves, forget about it.

Exactly, forget about it. Exactly, forget about it. So, yeah, there you go. Well, now we're on to the main topic for this week, Mason. I wanted to make news short this week, but we didn't do it. Nope. You refused. God laughs at your plans that you make. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

The Amazing Spider-Man 2, Mason. I saw it. Yeah. Well, it had a big opening day. One of these days, I pledge to you, because this is number two in the Nick Mason Film Festival of films that you make me see and I don't want to see. I don't know what I called it last time, but it's close enough. It's something like that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The first one being 300, Rise of an Empire. Yes, that's right. That should be a DVD box set box set yeah yeah um oh people are sending in yeah on the subject of that yeah incongruous box sets all right what do you got no people are sending in nice um i can't i'm sure i can't find it now but people are sending in incongruous box sets of films where it's like you know bill and ted's excellent adventure bill and ted's bogus journey and then like... Paycheck. Yeah, paycheck. Exactly, yeah.

Or like something, you know, like Event Horizon or something. You're like, what? Why did this happen? No, I can't. It was a long time ago, but please keep... If you see one... Please send them in. Please send them in.

It's our personal mission. Yeah, I love them. Yeah, yeah. This movie opened just... It opened in the US. It's opened here a few weeks ago. $35 million opening on Friday, which is massive. It's set for a $90 million plus weekend, depending on word of mouth or whatever.

It's sitting about 54% on Rotten Tomatoes. Very polarizing. Calvin Shepard, who tweeted the show, or me, or one of us, he loved it. But on the other hand, as did Lewis P., on the other hand, did Lewis P on the other hand this guy going by the name of CJ C.J. Dot

yes he saw nothing but flaws and you know what having seen the movie three weeks ago or something whenever I did

and I barely remember it I can see both sides of that yeah yeah what did you think in general well somebody actually said because we recently

did the audio commentary for the first Amazing Spider-Man we sure did and somebody tweeted at us somebody actually said because we recently did the audio commentary for the first Amazing Spider-Man we sure did and somebody tweeted at us hang on where are we yeah it was CJ yeah

nothing but flaws there we go yeah you just said that never mind I did way to add nothing to this no but it says

that we are rubbing off on him in the set do we see do we see nothing but flaws I thought we were a font of positivity are we not a fontativity

yeah fontativity maybe we're positivity plus nitpicking yeah which i'm okay with that's probably true yeah yeah um you just you just really had to look at yourself then didn't you when you were like am i a monster yeah yeah uh dylan burgess on twitter yeah sent us uh a triple pack a dvd triple pack good true grit okay right the lot you know western no country for old men the last of the westerns in many ways DVD, triple pack. True Grit. Okay. Good. You know, Western. No Country for Old Men. The last of the Westerns in many ways.

Yeah, yeah. Shutter Island. Guy goes crazy. In the 30s? In the 30s, yeah. Thank you for that one. That's great. Okay, let's talk about Spider-Man 2. Yeah, what did you think in general?

Having it fresh in your mind. It whiled away two hours, didn't it? Yeah. in general having it fresh in your mind it whiled away two hours didn't it yeah it went the way

of all the other Spider-Mans yes as in it ended no you know what I'm not going to spoil that we'll do non-spoilers then we'll do spoiler

yeah I thought actually the the choreography the web spinning wasn't it incredible was incredible

yeah I just watched a featurette you can go to comicbookmovie.com Mason and check that out there's an amazing amazing Spider-Man 2 featurette where they talk about

the physics used and how the suits all ripply and yeah yeah it looks amazing it looks real it does again

yeah it does look real again it does keep reminding me of the 1970s Nick Hammond Spider-Man the TV series or the TV series or the TV movies or whatever.

Yeah. I don't know why, because it looks good. Yeah. It doesn't look, you know, it looks, but I guess it's just because it's bright. It's very bright. Yeah, yeah. It's very bright. I think it's the best suit we've seen.

I think it's the best suit we've seen also, yeah. There you go. So you're obviously a fan of Andrew Garfield as well? I am, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. More than Tobin Maguire? But again...

Toblerone Maguire. Toblerone Maguire, thank you. We have to write down all these ridiculous nicknames we give people. I know. Hubert Jackman. Hubert Jackman, thank you. Good. I am becoming...

It's becoming increasingly difficult for me to buy people in their mid to late 20s as people who are teenagers now. Yes, because we're over that age gap now. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Well, that's it, but I'm glad he's graduated from high school. Yeah. I'm glad this wasn graduated from high school. Yeah. I'm glad this wasn't another high school era. God.

Because that would have hurt my brain. Sure. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. But I think he does play kind of young well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because of what he's supposed to be like 19 or so in this. Yeah, yeah. Give or take of where the movie ends up.

So, yeah, what do you think of Emma Stone? Yeah, great. It's really good chemistry. It is, isn't it? That whole kind of the love story they have kind of like ambles along and it kind of

to and fro and it doesn't really go anywhere that's true yeah but they're good and that's probably because they're going out in real life

there you go yeah isn't that exciting well not for us maybe for them I've also got here the spider manning he's great

he's a pretty good spider but you said that yeah and I Man-ing he's great he's a pretty good but you said that yeah and I said that he's got some good he's not annoying like he's got some good banter he does have some good banter

and it's not incredibly annoying Tobey Maguire did not have good banter he had no banter remember though when he said here's your change and he threw the bag of change at the guy

uh huh yeah but it didn't work though because not a high point is what you're saying low point low point exactly worst movie ever calling it already so yeah what about the villains But it didn't work though because... Not a high point is what you're saying. Low point. Low point, exactly. Yeah.

Worst movie ever. Calling it already. So yeah, what about the villains? Jamie Foxx, the dubstep monster. What did you think? I don't know if I'm entirely bought the character. I did not at all. I wish he'd been a different character.

Yeah. You know what? Effects wise... Amazing. Lightning effects, incredible. Great Times Square battle. That was great Yeah Yeah

Like incredible lightning effects Especially the after effect Yeah I thought that's the best That's been ever Yeah yeah And when he like Featuring lightning

Yes When he dissolves And re-kind of Comes together Really good Doing the fingers Yep great Spirit fingers

That looks amazing Yeah yeah Yeah yeah But it was one of those things Where like He was in love with Spider-Man and then he was upset that people loved Spider-Man more than him, so he went crazy. Yeah, I don't think it's too much of a spoiler to suggest that, to say that his character is a guy who nobody knows or, like, he's astounded when Gwen Stacy meets him and remembers his name.

Yeah. Like, 10 seconds after the fact. Yeah. Nobody exists like that. I understand it's a comic book movie for children. Yes. But nobody... He would have work friends.

He would have something. Yeah. Like, who is... Maybe there are. Well... Maybe all of them listen. But, I mean, you know... Yeah.

It's a... Yeah, he wasn't written like a real person. No, he absolutely wasn't. Yeah, yeah. The most... Like, I... Yeah. I could have seen him as a guy who has kind of a...

He's like a normal... Like, normally has a normal social life. Yeah. But he has a grudge against the company. Yes. Or something. And then he, you know, Spider-Man yes or something and then he you know spider-man saves his life and blah blah blah yeah and then once he becomes electro he decides he's going to

destroy oscorp and destroy destroy spider-man that would kind of work that would work this guy who's like oh this person remembered my name i love them you know it doesn't work no yeah not at all also when he became electro the gap in his teeth disappeared. Look at that happen. I didn't notice. What did you think of the Green Goblin? Awful. The guy? The character? Or the guy who played him?

Or both? I thought he was good with what he was given. Yeah. But... The actor, do we know his name? Dane DeHaan. Dane DeHaan. Yeah. Dandelion.

Dandelion DeHaan. I thought DeHaan. Yeah. Dandelion. Dandelion DeHaan. I thought he was good as Harry Osborn. Yeah. But I didn't like the goblin design at all. Yeah. Green goblin. He's not New Goblin. He's not Hobgoblin.

He's Green Goblin because it's Harry Osborn. That's right. Yeah. No Norman Osborn, obviously. They just skipped right over that. Yeah, yeah. We'll talk about that a bit. I want to talk about him a bit more in spoilers, though.

Okay, cool. That's okay. Can we come back to that? Yeah, yeah. What about talk about a bit. I want to talk about him a bit more in spoilers, though. Okay, cool. That's okay. So can we come back to that? Yeah, yeah. What about Rhino for the few seconds he was there? Is that a spoiler to say he's in it? Everybody knows that he was barely in it. Okay, right.

That's in every review, so. Okay, right. Yeah, I wish they'd done more. I wish he had a character. Yeah. It wasn't just shouty Russian guy. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, fair point, fair point.

He's an excellent actor and... He is, and they didn't seem to make use of him. Paul and Giamatti. There we go. I remembered. That's right. He'll definitely come into play in the next films. Is that odd that the two main actors in Sideways have both been in Spider-Man films as villains?

How did that happen? I bet Thomas Hayden Church talked it up so much. I bet he did. That's true, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. They're probably not friends. I reckon they are friends.

You're probably right. I reckon it was like, just get in... It was probably just like, take the money and yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, they're probably not friends. They are friends. You're probably right. I reckon it's like, just get in... It was probably just like, take the money and run. Yeah. Like, you have to wear a ridiculous blue suit for, like, a couple of days, and then you get out and you take the money and run. Yeah, no, you probably did say that. You're right, yeah.

Now, there's a few things that I didn't like in particular. It was a very convoluted plot that just kind of... It was like a collection of scenes that didn't really mesh the whole kind of thing. Uh-huh. I want to emphasize that I did not hate this, though. Right. Did you hate it?

No, I didn't hate it. Yeah. Yeah. It was fine. Sure was. I guess. Yeah. But, you know, things like solving Peter's parents' mystery of their disappearance and

death or whatever, who cares? Who cares? Is that just me? I kind of care. I always kind of invest of invested a little bit. Really? But that's because I only recently saw Amazing Spider-Man. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Because that was promised to be wrapped up in the first one, and then it wasn't, and then they kind of wrapped it up in this one. And I also, I've said this before, I don't like the fact that he's destined to be Spider-Man. And again, I can't get into this without going into spoilers, but yeah, we'll also talk about that.

Why don't we talk about that now? I feel very constricted what I can talk about here. I think everybody's seen a review at this point. Let's spoiler it like crazy. Spoilers! Yeah, spoilers from this point forward. Spoilers like mad dogs. And then towards the end, some non-spoilers.

Just to mix it up a little. So I guess, so if you guys, if you don't want spoilers, just scrub to like 20 minutes and maybe there won't be spoilers but maybe there'll be all the spoilers. That's it. I'm going to signify the spoiler point by eating this chocolate egg. Enjoy that. Uh-huh.

Is that Cadbury? It's Cadbury. We just earned $1,000. Yes. Sweet product placement. Now, you know, the Green Goblin. I want to go back to that.

He, I felt like in it he has the Green Goblin disease where he turns into a goblin, which his father had. Is that what he's doing? I don't know, but he's dying for whatever reason. And he wants Spider-Man's blood to make him feel better. So his origin is he needs Spider-Man's blood to make himself more powerful and whatever. And Spider-Man's like, no, because it could kill you, right?

I feel that Spider-Man was wrong in not just giving him some blood. Yeah, fair point. Because he probably wouldn't have just injected himself with it straight away. He probably would have taken it to Oscorp scientists and said, hey, can you do something with this? Yep, you're exactly right.

That's exactly it. It's only that Spider-Man gave him no option. Like he was going to die within you know in a very short period of time he had to go and take the spider venom yeah yeah yeah that's a really good point also with it with the spider-man venom right they just had a room filled with spiders and it's lucky that only peter parker walked in there and got bitten because if anybody else had walked in and got bitten they would have died immediately exactly i Exactly. I think I pointed this out on the Spider-Man commentary. Oh, really?

What happened to all the other spiders? Yeah. Like, why didn't an intern or somebody walk in and accidentally get bitten? Because if he didn't crawl to that goblin suit or whatever, he was going to die, right? Right away, yeah. That was what was going on there. So, did the spider give him powers, or did the suit give him powers? Was that made clear?

I think the spider venom just made him go insane. Okay, sure. Well, that would explain my next question. Yes. Why did he murder Gwen Stacy? Oh, because he went insane. Because the spider venom made him go insane. Okay, well, yeah, you got me.

Speaking of that, I thought that whole death scene worked with her. Yeah, absolutely. I honestly thought as I was watching that, I thought, you know what? Maybe she'll live. Maybe she'll live because Emma Stone's important to the franchise and whatever, whatever. And I thought, you know what?

They probably don't have the balls to do it. Yeah, exactly. Well, I think it was probably a testament to that action sequence that even though I know what happens to Gwen Stacy in the comic books, that I thought, oh, maybe they'll tweak it in this one. Maybe they'll let her live because she is a great character.

Yeah. Maybe, you know, maybe they'll Ultimate Universe this and she won't die at the hands of the Green Goblin. That's it. Well, in Ultimate Universe, she dies in the hand of Carnage. Is that right? Yeah, I think so, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

That really, they really snapped her neck. Like, you see it happen. Yeah, yeah, really, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Because it's always been a... Like, it's been decades of debate in the... You know, by Marvel fans. Yeah.

As to what actually killed her. Yeah. Was it the fall? Would she have died anyway? Or was it Spider-Man webbing? Because there's a lot of debate whether Spider-Man you know hitting her with a web yeah and sort of

breaking her really hard whether that breaking actually snapped her neck in mid-air ah okay yeah

yeah well it looked like that's what happened in this one anyway yeah yeah in this variation of it it's also it's another Spider-Man movie that ends

with a funeral there's only one that doesn't end with a funeral it's Spider-Man 2 yep wait maybe it's 2 sure yeah every other one ends with a funeral. There's only one that doesn't end with a funeral. It's Spider-Man 2. Yep. Wait. Maybe it's 2.

Sure. Yeah. Every other one ends with a funeral. This is no exception. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like, I don't know, and then they kind of... I liked how... I actually liked the end bit. I liked the last 10 minutes quite a bit.

Even though it was cut very abruptly, Rhino appears at the end in the suit. Right. And if you've seen a trailer for this, then you'd see... You've seen the last shot of the movie. Right. Which is Spider-Man winding up. To hit him with a in the suit. Right. And if you've seen a trailer for this, then you'd see, you've seen the last shot of the movie. Right. Which is Spider-Man winding up. To hit him with a manhole cover, yeah. And then the movie ends, as we know.

Did you feel cheated by that? I felt like I knew it was coming, that we weren't going to see that battle. I forgot Rhino was in it until we see Special Projects open. And I'm like, I wonder how many villains he's gonna fight in this okay yeah and then it got towards the end and I'm like I sort of forgot about it again because uh you know plots were happening sure and then it got right nearly towards the end I'm like when it when it got when it got to Green Goblin versus Spider-Man at the power station yeah I thought hey wait we haven't seen the Rhino yet maybe they'll cut him out and then i thought and actually no they'll put him in a they'll put him in a post yeah you know finale action sequence yeah so i

sort of yeah i sort of get that i like it in so far as it shows that these that spider-man exists now in his ongoing universe yeah that he's still gonna have to fight these there's more crime to fight and there's more villains to still gotta get out there still gonna get there yeah yeah yeah i i agree i think that worked i thought that was i don't know there's a lot of things individual things that work in that this movie including that part or that last 10 minutes or so but yeah a lot that doesn't at all uh-huh yeah i question why all the all the special projects are essentially supervillain suits. For starters, why are they secret? Yeah.

I mean, one is clearly just robot arms. Yep. One is clearly just Dr. Octopus' robot arms. Yeah, yeah. One is flyy bird wings. Yep. Why aren't these... Why doesn't Harry Osborn know about them?

That's a good question. Why doesn't anybody know about them? Why are they so secret? Well, actually, did you... I mean, Oscorp seems to do a lot. They do power supplies. They do. They to do a lot. They do power supplies. They do. They do...

Spider venom. They do spider venom. They do all sorts of genetic research. They do lizard arms. Yeah, so why don't... Why isn't it like, hey, we also manufacture weapons? I don't know. Like a giant...

So, do you not like that all the villains come out of Oscorp? Because it's different in the comics. Yeah. Every villain in this has come out of Oscorp. Or will come out of Oscorp. Will I... Exactly. Yeah, I kind of the comics. Yeah. Every villain in this has come out of Oscorp. Or will come out of Oscorp. Will I? Exactly. Yeah, I kind of dislike that.

Yeah. Because it's... Especially when somebody's putting together the Sinister Six. He should just knock down that building. He really should. He could. Because, you know, all the... And I think we mentioned this, but all the Spider-Man villains are sort of misfits of

science or whatever. Or they're just kind of you know bank robbers who've gotten a hold of a super suit or something like that and I guess they're attempting to do that here they're saying

okay well there's a criminal who really hates Spider-Man let's put him in the rhino suit or whatever but surely these will all be traced back to Oscorp very quickly

I would have liked to see where else is that going to come from I would have liked to see like a tinkerer kind of character or a power broker or somebody like that

who can you know build anti-Spider-Man to see like a tinkerer kind of character. Yeah, sure. Or a power broker or somebody like that who can, you know, build anti-Spider-Man weapons. Yeah. Yeah. Like a gun. Like a gun. Like a real big gun. Yeah.

Thank you. You know, there's a reason why, though, this movie is so choppy. Yeah. And Teal Elston, who wrote it and said this also. He's very choppy. Yeah. Because there's a lot of this that's been cut out. There was a whole Mary Jane subplot, which was cut completely.

That would not have worked if they put that in. No, not at all. The black cat, who was Harry Osborn's secretary. She wasn't supposed to be black cat, but she said, oh yeah, I'm Harry Osborn's girlfriend in this. There's also a shot in the trailer where he gets on the glider and she's looking at him on the glider. Well, it does look like she's very on board to help him.

Yeah. Also, the whole subplot of... And she's a great actress. What has she been in? There's a movie with the guy, the Russian guy from Star Trek at the reboot, Anton Yelchin. It's like a love story.

Is it that one where they're in school? It's got Robert Downey Jr. in it? No, you're thinking of Iron Man. I am thinking of Iron Man 2. They're in school. It's got Robert Downey Jr. in it. No, you're thinking of Iron Man 2. I am thinking of Iron Man 2. The subplot of Peter Parker being under observation.

Yeah, that's... That's been cut out. That's been cut completely. I think they used the sequence in the surveillance van to sort of... Clearly, they filmed that after the fact, and they've just kind of... Wait, which scene, sorry? There's a scene where the Oscorp vice president is in the surveillance van yeah and they're looking at norman osborne and peter parker on the beach ah i think they just they you they filmed that after

the fact so they could cut out all the extraneous stuff yep yep because clearly that was going to be a sequence where they're you know they're they're surveilling peter parker for whatever reason i'm like well he, he's got spider powers. He must be Spider-Man or whatever. And they've decided that's too much for the film. So it's just the vice president in a surveillance van for some reason with his flunkies going like, hey, it's Harry Osborn's friend. Now let's get rid of Harry Osborn.

That was kind of... They just pushed the surveillance aside. They're like, well, we should just keep surveilling Harry Osborn. You know? That was kind of they just pushed the surveillance aside and were like well we should just keep surveilling Harry Osborn until he does something silly. Yeah. That's it. There's also a bit in the trailers

where Norman Osborn says we've got plans for you Peter Parker. Yeah. That never happens. They never meet I don't think. They have zero plans for him. Zero plans yeah. As it would turn out.

Yeah yeah. So yeah I think you know what I think what's probably happened here I think as they were shooting it they're going this doesn't work let's try out. So yeah, I think what's probably happened here, I think as they were shooting it, they're going, this doesn't work, let's try this. Oh, that doesn't work, let's try this. And they just filmed a whole bunch of different...

Or maybe they always planned to film all this and then whittle it down to what it became. Because that would have been three hours if they'd kept it all in. It could have been even two movies. Even three movies. Even four movies. Four three movies. Ooh. Even four movies. Wow. Yeah.

Four short movies. Yeah. Four. Did, I mean, also I feel like none of the villains were really, we didn't get enough of them. But that wasn't even due to villain overload. Yeah. Because Rhino was barely in it.

Yep. But I was like. I don't count him. Yeah, exactly. So you only really had the two. But even then I didn't feel like they were utilized properly at all. No. But hey, that's life.

That is kind of life, isn't it? Yeah. Also, Jack Poison Lip Sheen, you've met with him. I just had a mental blank where I couldn't remember who the villain was. In fact, I still don't know. It's gone. Who was the villain? It was Green Goblin. Electro. Thank you. There we go.

Oh, that's odd. But yeah, Jack Poison Leaf Sheen has written in. He says, what do you think about Carnage taking over Gwen Stacy's body like in the Ultimate Universe? And then that's a way to bring back Emma Stone into the next movie. I'd be on board with that. Me too. That's a pretty good idea, eh?

He says a bit left of center, but I say that's okay, Jack. Yeah. Hey, Jack. That's okay. Get your crazy ideas out of here, Jack. No, I'd be on board with that. Yeah, yeah, me too. I Hey, Jack. That's so good. Get your crazy ideas out of here, Jack. No, I'd be on board with that. Yeah, yeah, me too. I think, yeah.

Speaking of villains, the next movie, you saw the bit in the credits where they showed briefly who they might have for the Sinister Six. Yeah. They had pictures. I don't know if you saw. Yeah. They had, what have we got here? I've written it down.

The Green Goblin Glider. Yeah. The Doc Ock Arm. Mm-hmm. Uh, Vulture Wings. Yep. Uh, there's a bit with either, it's either Black Cat or, um, Kraven. There's like a mask-y kind of thing.

Okay, sure. And there's another one, which is another mask-y kind of thing, which is either, could either be, people say Chameleon or Mysterio. Okay. Any of those? I want to see Kraven. It might be Chameleon. Here's the thing, though. Because, and I didn't, I, I was unaware of this. The, the Gentleman. Chameleon or Mysterio. Okay. I want to see Kraven. It might be Chameleon. Here's the thing, though.

I was unaware of this. The gentleman. Chamelon. What? Chamelon. Yes, that's how the cool kids say it. Yeah. The gentleman who we see at the end of Amazing Spider-Man 1.

Yes. And then we see him again in Amazing Spider-Man 2. I didn't know who that was. I had to look that up. I also had to look it up. His name is Gustav Fears. It's Mr. Fear. Yeah.

He's a Daredevil villain. Is he? Yeah, he's got like... He looks like the Mask of the Phantasm guy. I don't think you're right. I am right! No, Gustav Fears doesn't feature in the comics at all. So he's new?

Well, he's not new, but he's in a series of Spider-Man novels. Okay. From like 1999 to 2001. Really? Yeah. I'm going to look this up right now. Please do. I'll wait.

Who's been looking up Audrey Hepburn on my iPad? Is that you? No. Did you sneak in last night and look up Audrey Hepburn? Yeah. Maybe I got this wrong. I think you did. But yeah, Gustav Fier is in these series of novels, which I've not read, because they're

comic book novels. Yeah. And as we know, books are for nerds. Sure. Yeah, he doesn't appear in mainstream comics. Okay, no, I've got here from April 12th that said, the rumour is that he's Mr Fear, but it turns out that, yeah, he is Gustav Fears.

You're right. What's his deal? Well, he is an ally of the chameleon, or he's like a former compatriot of the Chameleon. So, and the... This is from Marvinapp. M-A-R-V-U-N-A-P-P dot com. Sure.

Which is like alternate universe characters. Okay. Like kind of obscure characters. It's like a database of them. That's a cool website. It's very cool. It's not well formatted or anything. But...

And there's... Yeah. But his... let me have a look here his um sinister six is chameleon doctor octopus electro mysterio the vulture and pity who was a new character i don't know pity exactly yeah i have no pity thank good great good stuff what's pity about done i can't remember yeah um but yeah he's a he's a But, yeah, he's a novel character. He's not a comic book character. So I guess they're going... But that's, you know, it's... He's from 99, so that's kind of recent-ish.

Recent, yeah, yeah. In the, you know... Well, I guess that kind of alludes to who we're going to see then, I guess. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I also felt a lot of this movie was just set up for the Sinister Six. Yep. Not so much the Venom. Wasn't there a Venom bit that was cut as well?

Don't you see the Venom symbiote in one of the trailers? I don't know if you do. Like it's in one of those glass cages? Maybe. I'll look it up. I know it's against our policy, but I'm going to look it up. We have no policy. It's not good ourselves.

But I initially thought that when we see the goblin suit, before we see it connected to the glider or anything like that, you see the tech specs on the computer and it said self-healing ability and blah, blah, blah. I thought maybe that was going to be the Venom. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. Okay, fair enough. Amazing Spider-Man 2 trailer image teases Venom and Morbius.

There you go. I haven't seen it yet. I've seen no photos. This will be a rumor of a rumor of a guy who saw it. Yeah. Is it on the computer screen? Yeah, it's on the computer screen. I think the Venom could also allude to the Spider-Venom.

Right, yeah. So, yeah. Make of that what you will. No, it just says Dr. Morbius is mentioned on the Oscorp database thing. Yeah, yeah. And it just says Venom storage is mentioned. Yeah. But that could be the storage of the...

That's what I literally just said. I know. I know that now because you just told me. Yeah, so, I mean, I think you almost got to have Venom, though, in the Sinister Six next, don't you? If you're going to do a Venom spin-off movie, you need to put Venom in, right? Yeah. Yeah.

So, look, I guess, are you excited for another Spider-Manom in. Right? Yeah. So look, I guess are you excited for another Spider-Man movie after this one? Yes. Okay. Because I want to see Sinister Six. I want to see where the rest of these villains go. I want to see this ongoing universe. Because again, we haven't really... even in

the Tobey Maguire Spider-Mans, it didn't really feel like a continuous universe so much to me. Okay. Because he wasn't really... i want to see him fighting villains on a daily super villains on a daily basis and we got a snapshot of that in this one exactly yeah now that would be cool yeah yeah well so look this movie is going to do well um fan divided as i fans reaction is divided a lot of people on the comic book movie.com hate it right with a flat out passion including some of the writers um do you know Josh Wilding who writes for the site

yes I think I said this last week he called it the he was the best man at my wedding yes he was he called it the Batman and Robert

of Spider-Man films some people are saying that it's worse than Spider-Man 3 and whatever it is not so yeah I guess we have to now

oh one more question Kieran Holt says how can you go over Kraven and Venom being introduced in the Venom Sinister Six movies So, yeah, I guess we have to now... Oh, one more question. Kieran Holt says, How can you go over Kraven and Venom being introduced in the Venom Sinister 6 movies without being in a Spider-Man movie first? Or do you think a Kraven, Venom and Black Cat movie from Spider-Man 3 would work? What was the question? Do you need to put those characters, um and black cat in their own movies and craven before you put them in sinister that's a good question that's a really good question

actually um i don't maybe not craven craven doesn't necessarily have to have because he's just looking for the best hunt yeah he doesn't necessarily need a motivation to kill spider-man yeah you just maybe he's been off in some sort of, you know, killing safari. No, I think in one of Oscorp's secret labs, there's like a sweet fur collar. Oh, yeah. Like with a sweet fur collar with a lion's head on it. Yeah. Absolutely.

Yeah. And he just happens to work there. Yeah. But then he puts it on and it gives him powers. Exactly. I think that'd be great. Yeah. He doesn't need a motivation.

You just, it's just how he's been off, you know, he's, he's been off safariing yeah in africa for you know years yeah and he's bored with all that and then he comes back into civilization and he discovers that there's this super powered man yeah like well i could kill him yeah and i will yeah i think maybe black cat you just need you just need this tiny little bit of desire for revenge yep for. With this whole Amazing Spider-Man 2 thing. Yep, yep. Maybe she saw Amazing Spider-Man 2 in theatres and she was upset by it. Yeah, that's good enough. What was the third one, Venom? I think Venom, yeah, yeah.

Ah, yeah, maybe. That's, well, that is the sticking point, probably. It is. Because he needs to be Eddie Brock. And it's a sticky suit. It's a very sticky suit, exactly. Seems gross. Yeah. Seems gross. Yeah.

Slimy. Yeah. So Kieran Holt makes a good point, Mason. Better points than you. Aww. It's true. So I guess anything else really to say about this before we label it best or worst? No, I think we got it.

Are you ready? Yeah, let's do it. I honestly don't know where I sit on this. Huh. But you have to make a decision. I know. Well, then I have to say worst then, don't I? Absolutely you do. Are you ready? Yeah, let's do it. I honestly don't know where I sit on this. Huh. But you have to make a decision. I know. Well, then I have to say worse than that. Absolutely you do.

Yeah, yeah. I did not hate it. It was not as good as I thought it would be. But there was a lot about it that I did like. That's not good enough, though. No, it really isn't. Because you won't get a best from me. Yep.

What about you? I'm going to say best movie ever. Because at the end, Rhino just sort of, he leaps down and he turns into like a rhino on four legs and he shoots missiles. How good is that? That was good. It's pretty great, right? Right.

Yep. Yeah, yeah. Well, Mason, like the comic book fan community, we are divided. Yeah. Yeah. So there you go. It's almost fitting in a way, or it is exactly fitting. What do you think of that?

It's fitting. Yes, it is. Now, Mason, we've got a few segments to go before we leave. Oh, yeah. I just want to quickly give a shout out to Kevin. Sorry. To Eddie Mason. He, again, has trumped Kevin Ely's donation for the Amazing Spider-Man 2 commentary.

What? He has sent us in, with the help of his friend. This is blowing my mind. $75. Wow. With the help of him and his friend, Shari Garcia. He says she's his best friend and without her, this amount couldn't be possible. And I'd appreciate it if you give her a shout out.

That is incredible. Shout out to everyone. Yeah. She loves David Wong and she said, if you could say something incredible about his books, in particular, John Dies at the End. You've read that, haven't you? I haven't read John Dies at the End. I haven't read it. I really want to read it. I love David Wong. I love his writing on crack. So say something incredible about his books, in particular, John Dies at the End. You've read that, haven't you? I have read John Dies at the End. I haven't read it. I really want to read it.

I love David Wong. Well, I love his writing on crack. So say something about it, idiot. It's great, and I haven't seen the film, but it's got Paul Giamatti in it, I think. Exactly. So when the segment comes up, spoiler alert. Eh?

Eh? Yeah, no, I love David Wong. He's great. Yeah, yeah. He also said, to pass this message on to Kevin Eerly. Eerly. I keep getting this wrong. Kevin Eerly.

A-Y-E. How do you say that? I? I? I, come here, chingas. Oh. Choke on my big... Choke on my bag of fat Latino dicks.

I win again. You ain't gonna overthrow me, Kevin. I got Mason on my side. Yeah. Where did he get all those dicks? I don't know. Maybe he's some sort of mutilation murderer overthrow me, Kevin. I got Mason on my side. Yeah. Where did he get all those dicks? I don't know. Maybe he's some sort of mutilation murderer. Okay, cool.

But you know what? I'm on his side, so... Yeah. Sounds great. Look, I'm calling it here. I'm ending this feud right now. This has gone out of hand. There is too much money going into this.

There is, that's true. So if either of you guys from now on, Kevin or Shari or Eddie, donate any more money, I'm refunding it. into this. There is, that's true. So if either of you guys from now on, Kevin, or Shari, or Eddie, donate any more money, I'm refunding it. Look, what we should do is have them,

look, if you've got extra money you want to send to us, instead, turn it into gas money, get in your cars, meet in America, like,

like where you, like, somewhere, find the exact midpoint of where you live, meet, and the exact midpoint of where you live. Yes. Meat and fist fight. Yes.

I think that's more fair. I mean, it's amazing. Or don't, get a drink together. I think that would be better, actually. That would be much better. We really appreciate it. So, yeah. And theweeklyplanet.bandcamp.com if you do want to listen to that commentary track.

Or is it just Weekly Planet? The Weekly Planet. Okay, good. Yeah, yeah. I don't know. So, yeah that that'll still be up there and we're going to do an x-men first class absolutely we are just people re-watch that just right it's great we're ready to go um so there you go he also says that oh this is good

eddie says it's probably my last donation so buy yourself a window a window or two for the room thank you we appreciate it so yeah you know what's time for now mason what's it time for what are we reading today what are we time for? What are we reading today? What are we going to read, friends? What are we reading? Theme song. I'm doing the theme. What are we reading today?

Great theme song. Great theme song. You put that in there, presumably. I hope so. I was going to say, actually, before we did that, regarding Spider-Man. Sure. That I was essentially forced to see this film. And it was good.

I enjoyed it. Yeah. One of these, you're going to make me see a film. I'm not going to see it. Oh, yeah. We're going to say this at the start. And see how long it takes for you to figure out that I haven't seen one of these

listeners also listen along we'll see see if you can spot it first sure if you yeah yeah that's a great idea

okay cool it'll probably be something like a 300 Rise of an Empire or something it will be yeah yeah yeah or a really big name one who knows

maybe I'll do it for Avengers 2 I don't know if you could hold off you wouldn't want me to spoil it for you that's true actually yeah you're right okay son of a bitch alright Mason yep I want to shout out I don't know if you could hold off. You wouldn't want me to spoil it for you. That's true, actually. Yeah, you're right.

Okay. Son of a bitch. All right, Mason. Yep. I want to shout out Trey White. Ooh. He's a 14-year-old guy from the US. He's got a new podcast.

Our youngest listener is 12, by the way. I know. I saw it on Twitter. Yeah. He started up his own podcast with three other friends. You can go to welcometopm, one word,.weebly.com, and his latest podcast goes for 16 minutes, and it's on upcoming summer movies.

Cool. I gave it a listen, Mason. Yeah. And I think this is a good way to start. And if you're like a young comic book fan, get involved in something like this. Yeah, absolutely. Because we're old, dying men. Correct.

Who have nothing of value to say. We have the Green Goblin disease. That's right. I'm all scabby. That's right. So yeah, I got a lot of requests this week to shout out podcasts. I can't shout out every podcast every week. I'll try and get to as many as I can.

But it's a lot of investment listening to a podcast and then going, oh, that's a good one. Yeah, that's true. And then shouting it out. Because I'm not going to shout out something I don't like. Or you haven't had time to listen to it. No, I haven't. Well, I've got a list, though, that I'm going to make my way through.

So I'm going to try and shout out a podcast as much as I can. I'm sorry if I don't. Sometimes I miss emails. You know how much it stresses me out, how much correspondence we get, and I can't get back or shout at everybody. And it's not a lot compared to actual podcast people. No's not for us but i feel like because you know working full time and whatever and then a lot of my time is spent replying to emails and whatever and we get

so many nice things and said and i did it really bothers me that i can't yeah get to everybody well yeah we try though yeah read everything yeah oh yeah that is that is for shiz now mason what i'm also want to shout out this week aside from trey white's amazing podcast welcome to pm. We read everything. We definitely read everything. Oh, yeah, that is for shiz. Now, Mason, what I also want to shout out this week, aside from Trey White's amazing podcast, welcome to pm.weebly.com. There was a Fat Man on Batman episode, it was number 67, where Joe Quesada came on. And, you know, he's the chief creative officer at Marvel. His famous comic book artiste. Sure. But he, as I said, was the job at Marvel.

He created Ash, who was a fireman who became a fire-based superhero ah is it a good one it's all right it's back in the day sure it's the 90s he um he's pretty extreme let me tell you i'd imagine did you have an axe uh he had an axe and fire an axe and fire yeah it's pretty good i guess all right yeah he did this episode of fat man on batman with kevin smith where they basically go through captain america 2 yeah and quite a lot of spoilerish details they talk about the process behind making it and you know the the writing the writers involved and the the steps that they took to ensure the winter soldier and he talks about basically the whole marvel universe he even touches on man of steel how he found it disappointing and a bunch of other stuff if you

love comic book movies yeah and you particularly like the marvel movies then definitely check that out it's well worth it if you can get past kevin smith's terrible theme song for that show oh really is it it goes for like 45 seconds and kevin smith singing and it's kind of a country and western kind of song about batman it's horrible right and i know because we have amazing theme songs. Absolutely we do. So, yeah. Definitely check that out, Mason. I've got a few things

to shout out this week. Not shout out to what we're reading this week. Uh-huh. Alexander Yates, he's a writer from the US. Him and his wife are in the process

of moving from Vietnam, sorry, to Vietnam from Rwanda. Uh-huh. And he's been playing our podcast in the background while they've been packing up. Cool. And he said it's funny listening to these backwards which is what he's been playing our podcast in the background while they've been packing up. Cool.

And he said it's funny listening to these backwards, which is what he's been doing because how enthusiastic you were after the Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. pilot. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, I was. I was super, super positive. But you know what? Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is really good at the moment. Get back in with the episode before and after Captain America, The Winter Soldier.

It takes a great turn, like that movie did. And it's much more interesting. All right, I'll give it another try. Yeah, yeah. That's to you at home as well, guys. Yeah, yeah. But he recommends the book called Slammin' Rushdie. Slammin' Rushdie, sorry, is a book called Midnight Short.

Salmon Rushdie. No, it says Slammin'. Is that something you've done again? I think so. Great. The book's called... Because you recommended one of his books, didn't you? A couple of weeks back, didn't you?

Salman Rushdie? No. Didn't you? No. Salman Rushdie, he wrote the Satanic Verses. He got that fatwa bestowed upon him. So you're not a fan? No, I'm not against him.

I think that's quite amusing. But I haven't read a Salman Rushdie book in a long time. Okay, fair enough. He recommends this book, Midnight Children. As he said here, people are very hot or cold on this guy. I'm aware of Midnight Children. People wake up around the world with superpowers. That's it. The premise, he said, is basically every

child born in India in the hour before the independence was given has some kind of magical mutant superpower. And the closer they're born to the moment of independence, the stronger their powers. So, that sounds amazing. And good luck on the born to the moment of independence, the stronger their powers. Yeah, yeah. So that sounds amazing. And good luck on the move to Vietnam. I've always wanted to go to Vietnam.

I haven't wanted to go to a war. You were in Tanzania for a while. I was in Tanzania for a while. I've been to Kenya. Spare us your life story. God. All right. Also, Josh Zingerman.

Zingerman! Zingerman! Zingerman! He tweeted us this, I think. I can't remember. He's an artist, a comic book artist, and he wrote this six-page thing called Roulette, where it's about this kind of futuristic world it set in 2028. It's only like six pages.

It's very short, and it shows off his artistic skills, and it's this woman killing monsters. If you go to http://jzingerman.tumblr.com, you should check out his art because it's great. Cool, all right. So, yeah, yeah. Thanks, Zingerman. Thanks. What are you reading today?

Well, since you mentioned John Dyer at the end. Yes. Yeah, well, I haven't read that since. It started as like a serialized kind of it was it was just it was a series of web pages initially it wasn't a novel and that's that's the that's when i read it yeah okay web pages back in the day like in 98 or something uh maybe like 2001 yeah cool yeah so i might read the actual book or or wait there an audio book? There's not an audio book. Oh, well.

But, yeah, and I should reread it as an actual physical book. Yeah, I've wanted to read that for a long time. Yeah, yeah. I'm not going to. No, don't. It's not an audio book. No, absolutely. No, I will.

I should at some point. So that's what we're reading, Mason. Absolutely. Should I end with a theme song? Yeah. I'm not going to. Wow. I will.

I'm doing going to. Wow. I will. I'm doing the thing. What are we reading today? Also, I'm going to read the movie. I'm going to watch the movie. Okay, cool, cool. Because Paul Gervanti's in it. Gotcha. Right, Mason.

A couple of questions for this week. Ready. Listener question section. Uh-huh. That's a good name for that. Listener question section. Sort of rhymes, That's a good name for that. Listener question section. Sort of rhymes, doesn't it? Right.

Love it. Eli Belling has written in, question number one. Would you rather take a full frontal nude photograph of yourself and post it online? Too late. Or have your entire online search history exposed for the world to see? What do you want? Probably search history. There's nothing that weird in it.

But there's certainly something weird in a full frontal nude photograph of me. Yeah, I think I'm on the same page as you with that. I'm trying to think if I looked up anything weird lately. Somebody looked up bloody... Audrey Hepburn, yeah. Yeah, so that's going to reflect badly on me. Absolutely. Yeah, probably that, I would say.

Does that mean we're not deviants? Yeah, I guess so. Or we just don't care if people see the weird stuff that we look up. Yeah, I think that's probably it. Sure. Question number two. Would you rather go to the moon for 10 minutes or spend an entire year vacationing in Europe if both were free?

10 minutes on the moon? Really? No, is that the question? Yeah, yeah, yeah. 10 minutes on the moon. No vacation in Europe. You'd have to, wouldn't you? Yeah, yeah. I mean yeah 10 minutes on the moon uh no vacation in Europe you'd have to wouldn't you yeah yeah I mean

what's on moon fucking nothing yeah it would be amazing yeah yeah but also space is terrifying and not just because of the movie Gravity but then again

what a great 10 minutes yeah how about an hour no the moon landing was 10 minutes 10 minutes and an hour of the moon about the same.

Yeah, that's right. You get it. You get it, yeah. It would be really nice to see sort of like the Earth rising. Yeah. That would be pretty spectacular. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. That would be.

You know the moon? There's a Dark Side of the Moon album? Yes, I'm aware. Sure. Cool. Thanks, Eli. Thanks. Also, I'd get a whole bunch of suits made in Europe, not on the moon.

Or I could get a whole bunch of space suits made for the moon. You know it. Space travel is terrifying. Yeah. I don't want to go into space. Apparently, because a private company recently... Yeah, Virgin. Was it Virgin?

They wanted Mars people to go to. Oh, no, that wasn't Virgin. That was some weird place in Europe wanted to do it. Yeah, they. Was it Virgin? They wanted Mars people to go to? Oh, no, that wasn't Virgin. That was some weird place in Europe wanted to do it. Yeah, they wanted volunteers. They wanted volunteers for people to go to Mars, and like a quarter of a million people. But you know what it was? You go to Mars,

and I think the initial trip was like four to six people. Yeah, yeah. But you don't come back. Right, exactly. You live on Mars forever. And I saw the living quarters that they arranged to do. Can you imagine being with the same six people for your entire life on another planet where you can't escape?

You can't even walk outside. Yeah, yeah. A quarter of a million people volunteered, which is insane. No offence if anybody out there wants to go and visit Mars, but what people actually want is they want to see all the NASA technology or whatever. They want to get in a suit the they want to see all the nasa technology or whatever they want to get in the suit they want to get in a spaceship they want to fly into orbit they want to float around for a bit and then they want to come back yes to fast food and video games that's

pretty much what i would like to do yep you go there it would not it would not sink in until you got there that you're never coming back and there's nothing interesting up there. No, that's exactly right. It'd be like living in the desert, but you can't go out in the desert because you'll die. You know Mars is actually brown? Yes. That's why John Carter didn't do well, because they did realistic Mars. She said down to red.

Yeah. Anyway, what do I know? So yeah, I guess go to Mars. Yeah. Yeah, they were looking at establishing a colony over a few years, so it was going to end up being like 18 or 24 people stuck there. Great. Where you're growing your own food, and that just sounds the worst.

Also, you know, radiation poisoning in space is quite dangerous. Absolutely, yeah. Being exposed for that long. That's what happened to the Fantastic Four. But actually, that turned out pretty well. It did, didn't it? Yeah. Except for the thing. Oh, yeah.'t it? Yeah. Except for the thing.

Oh, yeah. But odds are, you'd be the thing. One in, what, three in four, you'll be fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, Mason,

this is a question specifically to you from Charmath. Mason, there's a comic run of Iron Man where Doctor Doom sends him back

to the days of King Arthur. Yep. What issue is it and is it worth getting? First of all, Charmath, you have the internet. You could have looked that up. This sounds like a challenge more than anything.

Well, that's right. Exactly. I don't know any issue numbers. It's called, hang on. Ah, what's it called? I'm glad he didn't look it up. I'm glad he asked you. I think it's called, wait.

Hang on. You can cut some of this out. We'll leave it all in forever. It's got a funny name. Oh, it's called Nightmare. Really? It's a K, I think. Because he goes back in time.

And it's a nightmare. Yeah, and they fight Morgan Le Fay. I thought you were going to say they fight Morgan Freeman. Freeman, yeah, they do, yeah. But they fight sorceress Morgan Le Fay. Is it called Nightmare? It might be. Because the sequel's called Recurring Nightmare.

But they accidentally go forward in time To 2020 And there's another King Arthur? No but they fight Iron Man 2020 What's he like? He's about the same He's got more gears Sure

Hang on what was the question? What issue number is it and is it worth getting? Yes it is I mean don't pay for it probably It's fun That's got to be from the 90s right? I reckon it's from... No, it's from the 80s, because he's in the pre-Silver Centurion armour.

Okay. So he's in red and gold, but it's like... How does he charge his armour? I don't think he does. He just clunks around in it. Okay. Yeah. Great.

That's pretty good. Well, sorry we couldn't help you with the issue number, but... Probably technology can help you there. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Possibly. Yeah, yeah. couldn't help you with the issue number, but... Probably technology can help you there. Yeah, yeah. Possibly. Yeah, yeah. I'm going to look it up. What do you got?

Okay, yeah, it was called Nightmare. The sequel was called Recurring Nightmare. It took place during Acts of Vengeance, where all the villains crossed over. That's why it's fighting Doctor Doom again. And it was set in 2093. So it was not... I was going to say 2020's not that far. I was going to say it was not... Well, in the 90s it was. Well, the 80s, I guess. But it was not... I was going to say 2020's not that far. I was going to say it was not...

Well, in the 90s it was. Well, the 80s, I guess. But it was not... They didn't fight the Iron Man of 2020. It was Arnold Stark. They fought the Iron Man of, I guess, 2100. Who? His son? I don't know.

He's just a weird, weird cousin. I don't know. I guess he fought Andros Stark, which was the Iron Man of 2100. Everyone's got a weird cousin. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, fantastic. All right. Yeah, we had a good time there, yeah. All right, one more question. That the Iron Man of 2100. Everyone's got a weird cousin. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, fantastic. All right.

Yeah, we had a good time there, yeah. All right, one more question. That was Iron Man 250. So the one in the past, I bloody can't remember. Now, have you read, this is from David Crozier, Superman at World's End, which is the one, and I'll show you a picture if this helps. Where he's got the big white flowy beard.

Yes. I remember it. I haven't read it, though, no. I remember reading got the big white flowy beard. Yes. I remember it. I haven't read it though, no. I remember reading it years ago. He wants to know what we think of it. It is the most insane Superman story from memory that I've ever read. Was it part of a whole At World's End series? I think it might have been.

There were a whole bunch of At World's End. There's a future and there's Batman mutation bats that attack Superman and he gets shot with bullets. I want to do an episode on like the weirdest the weirdest, bizarrest, or worst comics ever written. That one I want to talk about. Okay. So I just wanted to acknowledge that as a thing that we will do in the future. Well, DC used to do a whole bunch of weird... Crap.

Yeah, a whole bunch of weird crap. But during their annuals, like a often a weird kind of elseworlds event yeah and there'd be ones where like the earth was destroyed and so like you know ships of all humanity were sent out to the far corners of the universe and they all went in bizarre ways and they all had legends of like superheroes and stuff like that and so there'd be you know there'd be descendants of those characters or people that found weird you know caches of Batman's weapons or something

like that and decided to become Batman or something like that they're all pretty weird they're all pretty weird and worth a read okay cool

but again don't pay for them yeah yeah unless they're like unless you go to like a second hand bookstore and they're like

50 comics for a dollar pay for a hard copy maybe at your local comic book store absolutely not a hard cover copy but like a physical copy buy a dollar. Pay for a hard copy, maybe at your local comic book store. Absolutely. Not a hardcover copy, but like a physical copy. Buy a softcover copy and then have it hardbound.

Spend $20 on that. So yeah, Mason. I hate to report it. What did he think of World's End? Oh, I can bring up the email. Hang on. Please. Legends of the Dead Earth, it was called.

Oh, the one you're talking about? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He thought, it's possibly. Oh, the one you're talking about? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He thought, it's possibly the most ridiculous graphic novel ever. Please seek out info on it and do a segment with everything that's wrong with it. I can't even begin to describe it. It needs to be shared and spoiled so no one goes to the effort of reading it,

assuming it might be okay. Oh, we can do a Robocop Terminator Last Human again. Exactly. Yeah, he's got a giant gun. And he's in a Superman t-shirt. And he's got a giant belt buckle with gun bullets on it. Yeah, nice. What are they called?

Gun... A bandolier. Bandolier, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Which I know are all your favourite 90s things. Yeah, yeah. Look at that gun. It's ridiculous.

That's such a good gun. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And he's got leg bandoliers as well. That's some of my favourite. Yep. Great. So, yeah, there you go.

Check it out. Yeah. Yeah. That, yeah, there you go. Check it out. Yeah. Yeah. That does not look good, though, does it? I've got to read that again. All right, Mason. Well, that's the show for this week. Fantastic.

Let's call it a day. Okay. Our show is a day. I did it. I wasn't going to make that. I nearly made that joke, but then I went, you know what? It's lame. But then you made it, and it wasn't lame.

And it made it cool again. And I regret that I didn't get it first that's right your first instinct is always right or wrong who's to say big shout out to

our two theme song makers Gabriel Bruton the Brute and Joseph Lisk the Lisk the Basilisk oh

that's good so yeah yeah next week Mason maybe we'll do an X-Men one the Brute. The Basilisk. Oh, that's good. So, yeah, yeah. Next week, Mason, maybe we'll do an X-Men one. Brute and the Basilisk. They're my favourite radio DJ team. Yeah, maybe an X-Men one next week. We've got to do a kind of best and worst X-Men movies, don't we? Absolutely.

And that's coming up. We should probably do a Godzilla one, but I don't want to watch a whole lot of Godzilla movies. Let's do it after the fact. Tell you what we'll do. We'll watch Godzilla. Yep. And if it's good, we'll do that.

If it's not good, let's pretend none of them ever happened. Okay, done. Great. My only word is that it's quite good, though. Okay, cool. The only Godzilla movie I'm qualified to talk about is the 98 one. Right. And I saw that at the cinema twice.

I think I've talked about this before. Not by choice. Sure. And my God, like I was, I was a kid, but I was like clawing the seat. Like just like wanting to get out.

Uh-huh. Which is weird because when you're a kid, you love everything. And I did not love that. Wow. Stupid brother had a birthday party there. Hate him.

Yeah. Didn't even really breathe fire. Your brother. No, he didn't. Anything you want to say? No. Happy Christmas. Oh, quickly.

Happy birthday to Jonathan Boozer. Yeah, it was his birthday on the 2nd of May. And hello to his girlfriend who supports all his nerdiness. That's his spirit. That's what you want. That's exactly right. Exactly what you want. He got one of the good ones.

Yeah. He got the last one, I think, actually. I know. That's a shame for everyone else, isn't it? Yeah. But great for him. Great for him. Thanks, everyone.

Thanks for listening. Bye. Eat them eggs, Mason. You know it. See, you know what? The Nerdist podcast has a very similar sign-off. Do they? Where they say, enjoy your burrito.

We need a thing. Yeah. When you're saying, eat them eggs, is it? Yeah, I think that's kind of a rip-off of that, though, so we probably shouldn't do it. Oh. Yeah. Is this bonus content? I don't know.

I'll listen to it and see what it sounds like. Great. How many of those eggs are left? One for every one of our listeners. There's four. Yeah.