The Weekly Planet - 324 The Invisible Man

Episode Date: March 2, 2020

Help support the show at https://patreon.com/mrsundaymovies for early videos, choosing topics and more!Huge week for Invisible Men! Because we’re talking the new Dark Universe entry plus Bob Iger steps down as CEO of Disney, Spielberg not directing Indy 5, Plenty Of Time To Die, trailers for Candy Man and Transformers War For Cybertron, Woody Harrleson’s worst hair, Star Wars Project Luminous and the hottest of hot hot hot takes. And hey, thanks for all the people that say you read this. I didn’t believe it if I did not see it but now I see it. You’re all the best. But if you’re not reading this you can fuck right off.16 Bit Scenes: https://bit.ly/2IaUkzESuggestible Podcast: https://aca.st/cf053a0:00 The Start1:00 Bob Iger steps down7:04 Spielberg leaves Indiana Jones 517:16 So Much Time To Die It Turns Out21:46 Candyman trailer25:56 Transformers Netflix trailer29:15 Venom 2 hair30:19 Star Wars Project Luminous32:42 Falcon & Winter Soldier HOT SCOOP35:21 A Very Invisible Man (spoilers 45:25 - 56:00)56:00 What We Reading/What We Gonna Read1:01:32 Letters It’s Time For LettersJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP Itunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 TWP Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanet TWP YouTube Channel ► https://goo.gl/1ZQFGH Amazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2QbmwGjT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Never. Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes. Only in theaters May 10. Tickets on sale now. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday

With me as always is my co-host Nick Mason Hello James, how are you? I just love podcasts, what do you love? Podcasts? You took my answer, James. You took my answer. You took my answer. Can you quickly think of a second thing? We're so in sync, James.

We finish each other's podcasts. Good night, everyone. That's it. Big news of the week, Mason. There's so much. Indie 5, Bob Iger stepped down, trailers for Candyman. We've got a hot scoop. We do have a hot scoop.

We've got the hottest scoop. The hottest of a hot scoop. We've got the hottest scoop. The hottest scoop, yeah. We'll talk about it. We'll talk about it. And then, of course, the Invisible Man. Time code's in the description if people do want to jump around. But if you're here, just want Bob Iger news, you're in luck because it's now. It's right now.

Oh, my phone just beeped. I'm sorry. Is that new Bob Iger news? I mean, it's the same Bob Iger news there was between this week's episode and last week's. Oh, but you got a notification about it. Oh, that's right. Yes, it just said. That was a reminder.

It just said, believe in yourself. Keep talking about Bob Iger. We should probably remind people who Bob Iger is. Oh, sure. Go on. I don't really know who he is. The head of Disney? What's his deal?

Okay, so what you really meant was me remind you who Bob Iger is. Also, what we're doing here is we're putting to we're putting to bed the fun riff that was fun for the first episode where bob iger is my dad and i've continued to go along with this even though i'm still not 100 sure who he is but he's that he was the head of disney that's right yeah exactly okay it was announced on tuesday let's not put the bob iger memes down just yet because he's still going to be around for a bit. It was announced that he's stepping down as Disney CEO and he's succeeded by Bob Chapek.

Effective immediately, Bob Iger, your dad, Mason. Oh, yeah, I get it. Will remain on at Disney as executive chairman through 2021. It sounds a little bit like it's just going to be Bob Iger with a moustache on. Sure. This is Bob chap egg. I mean,

he's just looking at things in the room. It was a man with a bowler hat, a plate of eggs. Yeah. So the idea was behind, like he's been, his contract got extended to do with the Fox Disney merger. Okay.

So the idea is that if they, if they got to do this swift transition, then it's done. There's no like, I'm going to be stepping down in a year and things will be winding down. It's like, it's done. It's locked in. He's going to be around to kind of help for a little bit,

but he's not in charge anymore. What are the ramifications for us, two idiots, who just watch Disney movies and Marvel stuff? Oh, then why are we talking about this? Because it's big news, Mason! It's big old news. Do you think somebody like Bob Iger, it was like this kind of, you know, this dream period where he just made tons of money, you know, with this company and nobody bothered him

and nobody knew who he was. Yeah. And now everyone's talking about it. Now it is. Bob Iger's stepping down. What's Bob Iger going to do? Is he going to fire Kathleen Kennedy? Right.

I mean, no, he can't because he's not the head anymore. Hey, Bob Iger, you're going to bring back Iron Man for the new phase of the Marvel Universe? I don't know who that is, he would say. I'm just looking at charts, man. I don't know. These are all completely divorced from reality. I don't know.

I'm just doing what the shareholders are telling me to do. Who's Iron Man? Is that the man who does my shirts? Because I don't know. So the guy that's taking him over came from Disney Parks. He's been doing it for 30 years. He's making a lot of money. He came from the Parks Department.

Yeah, but he's been there for ages. He's done a bunch of stuff. I know I'm not a big Parks guy, mostly because we don't live anywhere near that shit. That's true. But I know some people don't like some of the cost-cutting that he's been doing. I just want to quickly talk about the legacy of Bob Iger.

Much bigger legacy than your legacy, just want to clarify. Wow. Yes, I should say, yeah. So this is the new comic book from Marvel, The Legacy of Bob Iger. That's right. I don't know what I'm... It's just graphs and numbers to me. I don't know.

I'm on a boardroom meeting. I'm just saying, Obi-Wan series. I don't know what that is. Now I'm being pushed out of a plane without a parachute. There's terrorists shooting at me. I was not prepared for this. And really his legacy is like purchasing massive things that are really successful

because he bought Marvel for $4 billion in 2009. He bought Lucasfilm for $4 billion billion in 2012 both of which are massive successes what's his secret money oh yeah using money to buy things i guess it's not his money either no that's right it's not his money i mean i know people talk about how like his star wars what it used to be and etc or whatever but it's sometimes sometimes but it is again as just pure numbers it has more than made its money back. Right, and that's all he sees is numbers. Yeah, that's right.

And the terrorists chasing him. Those two things. You see those now, isn't he? Once you see some terrorists shooting at you, you can't unsee them. You see them everywhere. That's right. Also, he purchased Fox.

Obviously, that came up recently, which is like we'll kind of see what kind of happens from there in the future. But that's a big deal, obviously. He also implemented Disney Plus. All of these things kind of happened under him. So, like, he's had this incredible run, it turns out. So, you know, who knows what's next.

And how much can be credited to him and how much can be credited to the fact that he's working for a multibillion-dollar company that just steamrolls everything. He just happens to be there while it's happening. Who's to say? Who is to say? I'm not in much contact with him, so I don't know. Are you saying anybody could drive that steamroller?

Yeah, give it to me. All right, you can do it. I don't mind. So people also... I'll be Bob Chapek. I'll put a mustache over my regular mustache. I don't care. So there is a...

As there often is when there's new management in a corporation. Anywhere. I've seen it in schools. I'm sure you've seen it at your work. Those are our two frames of reference, right? Yep. Where it often leads to people either leaving or quitting or so there could be, people are talking about, does that mean Kathleen Kennedy is going to go? Does it mean Kevin Feige is going to move somewhere or go? Maybe.

Sure. I wouldn't be surprised if there's any kind of change also these people have all been in these roles for like a decade plus so you know exactly if kevin feige is like you know what i don't want to do this anymore i i this was quite stressful yeah you know taking this franchise from nothing to multi-billion dollars yeah i would like and i'm rich i'm rich now i would like to yeah yeah yeah i'd like to see him do Star Wars. Just take over Star Wars the way he does the MCU. Or just stay at the MCU.

Just make good stuff there. I don't care. Just make some stuff that I can see. That's what's important. But he also did the, of course, the Disney renaissance again in terms of animation. 3D stuff was under him. So he looked at Bolt and he went, Bolt's not the future. John Travolta talking. I've talked about this before.

The future is Tangled slash Frozen slash Moana slash Frozen 2. Pixar, Disney, which he didn't purchase. It doesn't matter. It's not about that. What it is about, though, is Indiana Jones 5 now. That's what we're talking about. Variety is reporting. So you can probably take this to the bank.

At this point, things can change, though, that Spielberg is stepping down. It's said that he'll remain as a hands-on producer of Indy 5 and according to a source close to the filmmaker, the decision to leave the director's chair was entirely Spielberg's in deciding to pass Indy's whip along to a new generation to bring their perspective to the story. Do you think that's true or do you think he just doesn't want to do it? Yeah, I think that's probably close to the truth.

Because I don't feel like he wanted to do the last one. No. Do you remember he was like, I don't want to do aliens. And George was like, extra dimensional beings. And he's like, yeah, okay, fine.

Technically, that's not what I said. So, yeah. They're aliens really, aren't they? They're absolutely aliens. Yeah. So, do you know, so the name that came up though though, to take over was... Is it someone we know?

James Mangold. Oh, Mr. Logan. That's right. That's what I call it. That's Mr. Logan. 4V for 310 to Yuma. Yeah, okay. I think this...

Look, I like Spielberg. I like three of his Indiana Jones movies at the very least. Sure. And he only made three. Yeah, that's right. And obviously... Only three exist. Him and Lucas made those movies together.

But I think this is better. Because, I mean, just naming those movies there, you've got like period drama, Western situation. You've got kind of old school action, which is really good. You've got Logan, which has some good drama good drama within a superhero franchise understanding the legacy of exactly yeah and then you've got again men standing by the side of a track with a stop watch going clickety click it's not a bad movie though we're gonna add some weight to the back has your dad seen that movie yet maybe i'm sure he's seen i'm sure he's seen a clipboard with

with an executive summary on it sure i mean your actual dad i don't My actual dad. I don't think so, no. Really? I don't think he's a race car movie guy. It's hard to pin down what my dad likes. Sure. I'll ask him. Okay. I never say him. No.

Why would you? He doesn't even live in Melbourne anymore. Oh, yeah, he doesn't. He moved, didn't he? How am I going to see him then? I don't know. I forgot he moved. Yeah.

The other thing is Harrison Ford is doing the rounds for I'm Hanging Out With This Dog, the movie. Oh, yeah, yeah. Please, I'm Hanging Out With This Dog, the movie. Oh, yeah, yeah. Please, I'm hanging out with this dog man. Yes, that's right. I'm hanging out with ping pong ball man wandering around on his knees. It's not weird. No, presumably they'll fix this in post.

Yes, one would hope so. Do we have any Doolittle news? Do we know what, is there any updates on Doolittle? I mean, it did incredibly badly. It cost a lot of money. i think it's still that's because i just ended up on uh i don't i ended up on robert danny jr's instagram page and there's still a lot of like do little promo stuff yeah so i guess he's still doing the world ride rounds on that i think he's still proud of it i think because he put a lot into it right he's looking for that next big hit but uh i'm fascinated

i'm sure i'm sure i reckon there's obviously obligation to that stuff though it's probably like you need a minimum of 30 posts so maybe that's why he's or maybe i'm just i'm sure we've talked about this before but i'm fascinated by a trajectory of a man who has probably a hundred million dollars in the bank right now yeah he's buying windmill houses yep and he went, came off a 10-year franchise and went, I'm going to do Doolittle. Well,

he did the Joe Rogan podcast recently and I watched the whole thing. So that can give you some insight into what he was thinking. And you're a libertarian now. That's exactly what happened. Yeah. I'm just,

I'm eating raw elk. Smoking DMT or whatever. Smoking DMT. I'm asking people about their process in addition to whether they've done DMT. Anyway, what did he have what did what a proper 10 it was kind i mean it's a lot of actor kind of like it's the journey and fucking but also he's he's still in promo mode yeah so we won't know the real reason why he did it for

10 years probably like based off that yeah it seems like he's it seems like he wanted to it's something he wanted to do i guess he put a lot of thought into it, it would seem. I guess maybe, because he's of the age where when he was a kid, maybe there would have been a Doctor Doodle movie. There was, yeah. But that wasn't a hit either, though. That's a weird thing. Maybe he just wants to, maybe it's just something he likes, and he's like, I could do a fun spin on that,

and kids could like it as well. Maybe that's it. They don't. Or maybe he just wants, maybe he's like, there won't be as much adulation if I'm not Iron Man anymore. I'm going to get in with the kids. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Get back in.

New franchise. Yeah, that's right. We weren't talking about. No. We were talking about Harrison Ford, though. Harrison Ford, there we go. He said about Indiana Jones. He said, this is before this happened.

First he said, who's Indiana Jones again? No, this is the one he knows and likes. Okay, right. For some reason. Okay. Even though he, obviously we talked about this before. Han Solo, it's the same character. Yes, right. For some reason, even though he... Obviously, we've talked about this before. Han Solo, it's the same character. Yes, right.

For some reason, he likes this one much more. I think it's because he understands the universe because it's just... It's Earth, right? Yeah. Maybe the slacks are not as tight. That might be it. Right?

Yeah. Big old space boots. You've got to wear them in, don't you? Yeah, you do, yeah. I don't really want to give them what they want to see. I want to give them something they didn't anticipate. They are used to a degree of disappointment when you revisit. Certainly the Marvel fans.

Who's he talking about? Okay. Certainly the Marvel fans. Not his kids, are they? No. They're used to the disappointment that I bring them. Because he's a slacker stoner dad. You know what he's like, basically.

We give a lot of stick to Harrison Ford on this show. I like him a lot. Me too. And I think the reason... We do call him Grumpy Old Gramps Harrison Ford. He's nearly 80. It's exactly what he's like, basically. We give a lot of stick to Harrison Ford on this show. I like him a lot. Me too. And I think the reason... We do call him Grumpy Old Gramps Harrison Ford. He's nearly 80. It's exactly what he is. Exactly.

But it's also largely due to the fact that people keep railroading him with dumb Star Wars questions when he's trying to talk about anything else. Or nothing. Right? Yes. He likes being an actor. Yeah. But nobody ever asks him about being an actor.

They just ask him about trash compactors. Yeah, exactly. What's your favourite Star Wars line? I don't know, man. The fucking... Jesus Christ. You mean that movie I did like 45 years ago? I think maybe that's why he has the earring.

He just tugs on it so his agent or his handler or whatever knows to end the interview. Or he would just make it bleed. So I was like, sorry, it's bleeding out's bleeding out yeah um this is interesting though he said the marvel movies have made a spectacular example of success uh the work the other way around they killed it well we're not just going to make another indiana jones unless we are we are in a position to kill it we want it to be the best and of course people say that like obviously we want to honor their legacy we've heard all this before sure but the fact that he even knows anything about the Marvel movies is fascinating to me. Right?

And I don't think it's a line that he's fed. I think he just must be it. Yeah. They feed him. Just say the I know line. When people ask you, just whatever it is, just say that. Just say you were tired on the day, so you asked if you could shoot the guy. Just say the story

about how you were going to shit your pants because you were sick and you didn't want to do a big fight scene which is maybe the story. Who knows at this point. I find those

Harrison Ford interviews they're so stressful because he's just on the edge the entire time and he never snaps but I just feel like he's going to

at some point. Well that's the thing because if he snapped at the end of every interview I would feel less stressed because I'd be like well he's going to snap so you know. When is it going to at some point. Well, that's the thing. Because if he snapped at the end of every interview, I would feel less stressed because I'd be like, well, he's going to snap, so, you know. When is it going to be? Three minutes in?

Exactly. So at least the tension between interviews is dissipated. But the fact that he hasn't snapped in many decades of being asked these questions means that it's going to happen at some point, right? Oh, I love it. Steam's going to come out of his ears. It really is, yeah.

I mean, because he's older than both of our dads, not combined. My dad's in his 70s. Your dad maybe in his 70s or close to? He's 60-something. Great. Excellent. You're welcome. But I think it's...

He's 68, I think. But like taking either of those men and putting them on a press junket and being like tell me about a thing you did 40 years ago I just can't even imagine sure how they would handle that

anyway so they're gonna make it with James Mangold potentially and I like I think if you ask my dad Mr Mason

they wouldn't call him dad presumably if they were like can you elaborate on the modifications you made to the Maroondah Dam I think he'd be bang up for telling that story that's a good point actually because it's no one's asking

about that exactly right but you're not getting that question every day for the rest yes exactly anyway and do you think it's a better move with spielberg i think so yeah yeah without spielberg if he doesn't want to do it because if he wanted to do it he would have done it by now as well it's been 12 years since the last one yeah it's been 12 years. And the fact that he is, you know, according to him or according to his people, he's staying on in a producer role, that is a good way of... Coming on set and getting a photo. Coming on set and getting a photo, exactly.

Well, that's the thing. You get Spielberg, you get Mangold together, shaking hands. They're looking at a monitor. Over a script of the movie, and they're shaking hands over the monitor. Then all the doubters and all the haters out there will at least give over a script of the movie and they're shaking hands over the monitor then all the doubters and all the haters out there

will at least give this a chance like they may or may don't enjoy it but they won't immediately go and downvote the trailer as soon as it comes out

because it's not Spielberg and it's not Lucas so it can't be good you know honestly what's the last Spielberg movie you really enjoyed I don't remember Minority Report for me maybe

and he's been making decent stuff since but he doesn't make movies like this really anymore I'm going to look it up because that's the thing really enjoyed. I don't remember. Minority Report for me, maybe? And he's been making decent stuff since. Sure, yeah. But he doesn't make movies like this really anymore. I'm going to look it up. Because that's the thing. I feel like...

I mean, he's obviously one of the best and he still makes great movies. Right. That's about Bridges with Tom Hanks or whatever. Right. Oh, Bridge of Spies.

Yeah. I didn't finish Bridge of Spies. I didn't see the BFG. His net worth is $3.6 billion. Is that all? Yeah, right. Okay, I'm going to go back. I'm ready.

So West Side Story is this year. Did you like Ready Player One? No, but I liked it more than I thought I would. Same. The Post? Oh, didn't see the newspaper one. The BFG? Didn't see it, but I liked the book when I was a child.

Me too. Apparently it's a nightmare to look at. Well, that's what Claire told me. Bridge of Spies, we mentioned. Yep. Lincoln? No. In 2011, he did Super 8, me. Bridge of Spies, we mentioned. Yep. Lincoln. No. In 2011, he did Super 8, The Adventures of Tintin and War Horse.

No, sorry, he didn't do Super 8. Sorry, he was a producer on that. So he did Adventures of Tintin and War Horse. And then it was Indiana Jones. And then it was Munich, which I haven't seen, which apparently is good. I like Munich. Munich's good. And that was also the same year as War of the Worlds.

But then in 2000, so in 2004 was The Terminal. And then in 2002 was minority report catch me if you can both of which i think are terrific yeah i watched catch me if you can recently that's an excellent movie i gotta watch ai again i feel like i'd probably enjoy it uh i don't remember hating it at the time you mean you know ai that he did took over the stanley kubrick oh yeah boy movie yeah cool man cool man good for you steven spielberg yeah you've done really carving out a niche there. I know, right?

I say big things in your future. So, Mason. Yes. Did you know it turns out that there's more than enough time to die? If anything, there's too much. Too much time to die. If you'll excuse me, I'll just be over here having a time to die. At my own leisure.

That's right. It's going to be 164 minutes. Is that something like that? Yeah, two hours and 43 minutes yeah lord yeah so longest bond film ever uh reportedly to some movie sites that went up on um i think that's but will it feel as long as on her majesty's secret service no boom i got that movie from decades ago have i seen it it's the one with george leisenby I haven't seen it. It's the roughly colour one. That never happened to the other guy.

That's what he said in that movie, didn't he? That's right, yeah. That's great. And it's good stuff. It's so long. Yeah. And if this, look, on the one hand, if this is going to be Daniel Craig's last outing,

as he continually says it's going to be, all right, I'd rather more Daniel Craig Bond than less. But at the same time, I wouldn't mind a brisk 90-minute outing of this. Sure. Quantum's pretty brisk, isn't it? Is this trend for longer movies just filming everything and not cutting anything out, whereas in the past

they would film three hours and then cut a lot of stuff for time? I think it depends where you're at in the franchise because I think something like Endgame you can justify it being that long. Yeah. Because it this is the end of a franchise and i think you'd look at this one the same way but if they were like it's the first movie in the whatever franchise and it's like 12 43 it's like you've extended yourself here right where nobody wants this for this long yeah or understands it yeah so that that's what i think i think in established franchises towards the end yeah that would make sense i hope it's 40 minutes of him spinning the Aston Martin in a circle, firing the miniguns.

And with the James Bond theme on a real rough loop. So just... Like that. Just 40 minutes. Someone would have mocked that up, I'd imagine. And just bad. You see the same guys getting machine gunned every minute. It's going to be great. He's shifted gears the whole time.

Oh, my God. It'd be so good. I'd love that. So there you go. There's plenty of time to die. So much time, gosh. Thank goodness. Yep.

I don't know. I mean, if it's good, if it's not, it doesn't matter to me. It's always interesting, though, to me that a studio would do this because it means literally less sessions. It does, doesn't it? Yeah, that's true. So they normally do it for a reason. Yeah, yeah.

Whether or not that's correct. Do you think part of this will be setting up another 007, whether it be the replacement 007? I don't know. Or another character from this? Yeah, I don't know. Or another character from this. Yeah, I don't know. What do you think? It wouldn't surprise me,

but I also kind of want a fresh start completely. Yeah, I feel like, I also feel like this franchise is, no pun intended, on thin ice in the sense that people could very easily just leave it in droves if the next one isn't to their liking, I guess. This isn't a Marvel movie where it's like, this is going to make a billion dollars for sure.

I think there is something in the hype of the new James Bond and the new series and whatever. And I think by just going, it's a spin-off character. Unless you really nail it, there's going to be a tepid response to that. Look what happened at the end of Die Another Day when they're like there's going to be a tepid response to that. Right, right, right. I mean, look what happened at the end of Die Another Day when they're like, well, now Halle Berry's getting her own movie. And people are like, that was the worst movie ever made.

And don't. If you could, just don't. So, but I've said this before, but I would love it if they took it back to the 60s, they recast, and they went, we're doing period, Bond. Yeah. Because then you don't have to work in smartphones and gadgets and nano viruses and explain away hacking into a phone

through a satellite into a camera and whatever. I don't need it. You don't need it necessarily. He's just looking at a piece of microfilm that he got out of a shoe. Back to basics. That's right. You know? Something prints off a little strip of Morse code.

He has to read it. Don't you love those old-timely gadgets? Yes. But you do weird modern versions. He's got a throwing knife under his hat. Would he? Which in itself is a throwing knife. Sometimes he does wear a hat, doesn't he?

Yeah. He has? In the gun barrel sequence. But that's not even him, is it? Connery Bond. No, he's wearing a hat, yeah. But it's also not Sean Connery. It's like a different actor.

No, it's Yat-Sung Brando, yeah. Weird. Here we go, Mason. It's Trailers Ahoy. Candyman. I've never seen a Candyman movie. It's one of those things that I've seen VHS. We talked about this recently in something. Oh, we've recorded something for... Okay, but it wasn't a Candyman movie. It's one of those things that I've seen VHS. We talked about this recently in something.

Oh, we've recorded something for... Okay, but it wasn't a Candyman VHS. It was a different VHS. It was the Westworld VHS cover. I used to stand in the horror section as a kid. Also, we should keep in mind the number of times we say Candyman. In case? In case the Candyman shows up.

You have to be looking in the mirror. Bearing in mind we are constantly looking in the mirror because of our incredible vanity. We require one on each side of the i'm not looking anywhere else what else do i want to look at in this boring ass room does it count if i'm looking at my phone and it's putting a series of funny filters over my face i don't think that counts i think it has to be a literal mirror i think you've got any digitizement in there but then again candy man will maybe kind of deal with that be like it still counts if you're looking at your phone yeah it still counts black mirror you know but then when when i'm debating it with the murderous candy man maybe kind of deal with that. Be like, it still counts if you're looking at your phone. Yeah. It still counts.

Black mirror, you know? But then when, when I'm debating it with the murderous candy man, I can. You'd be like, get him on a technicality. Yeah.

Yeah. I'm like, let me just Google this. And he's like, oh, fine. And then I'll run. Yeah. That's right.

What's he going to do? Anyway, this is. I'll take his sack of bees or whatever he carries with him. Yeah. What's his deal? That's the point. You were saying,

you've always seen the VHS cover. When Candyman came out, the original, it was on a lot of comic book, like it was on a lot of ad pages. So I remember looking at it and going, bees and meat hooks, what's this guy's deal? But, of course, there was no Google to look it up then. So I don't know what the deal is with that movie. This is the original one.

We all know everybody's heard this as well. Intrigued by local legends, Helen investigates... Helen? Hey, Helen. Helen Mirren? No. My friend Helen? Yeah, your friend Helen.

Oh, cool, cool, cool. Myths and superstitions surrounding the one-armed candy man. However, she confronts her worst nightmare when a series of murders take place or whatever. So that doesn't help at all. Doesn't help. Is he magic? I assume he's an urban legend come true or something, right? I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know. Look, there's a summary. I've got the summary. I could read you the entire. No, let's. I'm going to Google powers of the candy man. Well, he can make the sunrise and he can sprinkle it with dew. Oh, yeah, that's pretty good.

Something, something, something. The candy man can. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't believe they didn't use that song, a weird slowed down version in the trailer. Right? They used a Beyonce song. I think that shows incredible restraint. Was it Beyonce or was it Destiny's Child?

Oh, maybe it was. It might have been Destiny's Child. You're probably right. Okay, powers and skills. This is from the Villains Wiki. This is from the Villains Wiki. So villains.fandom.com. Gotcha.

Powers and skills include immortality, intelligence. We've got that, allegedly. got that allegedly regeneration superhuman strength summoning swarms of bees teleportation flight and levitation invisibility hobby killing people hobby says hobby i think it's a job goals avenges death keep the stories and rumors of his legend going through killing. Okay. So it's like a Freddy Krueger kind of back from revenge. Yeah, type of villain, vengeful, damned soul. So it looks like maybe the lead in the new one is maybe a descendant of. Right.

It seems to be kind of he's drawn into this world and it's like, you're the new Candyman. He's like, I don't want to be a Candyman. I've got kids or whatever. Sure. I've got a job and my hobby isn't killing people. Well, you've got to carry on the family business son. Take this sack of bees

and get in that mirror. Dad you suck. You look in the mirror and you can see he's on the girder with a lunch pail in a sandwich. He's got a sack of bees next to him. He hates Mondays. The movie starts with him.

He punches his card in the punch card to clock in and then there's this swarm of bees all take out their own punch card and punch it in a smaller punch card thing. I love that. Anyway, it seems to be like, well, according to the villain's powers that you read, maybe his powers were kind of waning

and he's kind of gathering his strength to be a new Candyman. Right. The original Candyman is back, so it's all happening. Anyway, I didn't mind the trailer. Yeah, it looked pretty good. So for something I'm not interested in at all, I'm slightly interested in it. And we've got the main character is obviously Cal from Watchmen.

Yeah, absolutely. So that's cool. That's cool. Liked his performance. Liked him a lot, yeah. Yeah. Do you want to do another trailer? It's a Netflix trailer.

Yes. Transformers War for Cybertron. Oh, yeah, that's right. It looks a lot like those video games which were... Exactly. I felt with this trailer, my excitement ebbed and flowed. I was like, oh, they look... Like a swarm of bees.

I was like, oh, those Transformers look really good. That's good for animation Transformers look really good that looks that's good for animation that's really good and then I'm like oh it's based on the the video game that's pretty good

and I'm like did it actually say that no it doesn't say it okay and I'm like but all the character models are exactly the same like

yeah right which I didn't I didn't find them hugely inspiring some are better than others like Optimus Prime just turns into a truck

a slightly different truck that's what he does Mason yeah I know that's what he does Some are better than others. Like Optimus Prime just turns into a truck, a slightly different truck. That's what he does, Mason. Yeah, I know that's what he does. But I wanted a cooler truck or a hover truck. Yeah. You know? You can kind of do a hover kind of drift in those games. Do you play them both?

I played one of them. The High Moon games are really good. Was there one where you turned into Metroplex? Yeah, that was two. That was two. Okay, right. I think, yeah. But it might have been one. Your Rex stuff was pretty good. Rex-roplex? Yeah, that was two. That was two, okay, right. I think, yeah. But it might have been one.

Your Rex stuff was pretty good. Rexroplex. Does that work? No, no, no, no. But good for trying. I'll let it at that. Yeah, it was in... I had Metroplex as a kid.

Yeah, we know. It's unbelievable to me that I would have had that toy, though. It doesn't make any sense because it must have been expensive, right? When I got it, I'm pretty sure it wasn't in a package. So I think it must have been found somewhere. And And when I got it, I'm pretty sure it wasn't in a package. So I think it must have been found somewhere.

And it was made of cardboard. It was, yeah. Almost as if somebody had cut out the Metroplex from an actual Metroplex box. Like on the cardboard box and just given you that. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, there seems to be some characters in there. Arcee's in there.

That's good. That's a positive. I like that. Ultra Magnus is in it. That's good. My son would love this if I let him watch it. He would lose his mind. You think it's too mature?

We can't really tell yet. Because they look like they're shooting each other and killing each other. Yeah, that's true. I think it's a bit early for that. But one day I'll let him watch this crap show. We're watching Rescue Bots, mate. It is about rescuing people. Like this cat stuck in this tree.

Which rescue bot can get them? And I'm like, any of them. It doesn't matter. They're all 35 feet tall, so anybody can do it. It's got a killer theme song, though. Really? It's banging, mate. Oh, that's exciting.

I'm not going to lie. Yeah. Rescue Bots. Go to the rescue. Give it to me. Here I am. It's in me. Rescue Bots.

Go to the rescue. Rescue Bots. So my side also does it go to transformers rescue bots? No, no, that's just a chip and dial thing. Okay. I mean, the different words, to Transformers, rescue bots. No, no, that's way better. Because that's just a Chippendale theme. Okay. I mean, the different words, obviously. Yeah, that's, yeah. Yeah. Because there's other Transformers shows on Netflix. Yeah, Transformers Prime, I think is on there.

Yeah, there's a bunch of them. There's one where, like, Bumblebee's a cop or something and whatever. Wow. Transformers Prime has The Rock in it in, like, the first episode. Then he's murdered by Starscream. The Rock as a Transformer? Yes, The Rock as a Transformer. Just The Rock, the actor.

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And my son's always like, The Rock as a Transformer. Just The Rock, the actor. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And my son's always like, that one? And I'm like, I wish. No. Not the one where The Rock gets murdered as a Transformer. Yeah. Anyway, we should move on, Mason. Look, it's pretty good. I'll give, I mean, you know,

and one of the issues I think with a lot of these Transformers series, apart from all the ones you mentioned, I find first run transformer stuff kind of hard to find on the internet a lot of the time so it'll be good that it'll all be on netflix and i can just straight on bang yes woody harrison he's got a new way a new do yeah he does looks bad yeah is it worse the whole thing looks bad this is for venom too not for real life yes yes is it worse than the weird like ronald mcdonald fright week yes ah it's tough to say i think it's better but it's not good i yeah

it's certainly not yeah it looks more realistic i guess than the other one like it looks like it could actually be closer to his real hair than woody halston's real hair than the Sideshow Bob fucking had a big bone through it I think from memory yeah anyway we're talking about set photos

from Venom 2 yeah I mean I think they should have just buzz cut him right yeah short hair

short red hair anyway I don't have anything else to say about that other than you had another shot you did this I mean he's a cartoon villain.

Whatever, man. Sorry, comic book villain. And I know he's a murderer. Let's not Mason. Did you hear about the big Star Wars news? Before we do the hot scoop? Oh, I did, yes. I did hear the High Republic. Project Luminous. They've got a bunch of authors from comics and books, including

Kevin Scott, Claudia Gray, Charles Soule, Daniel Jose Alda, and Justina Island. And the idea is that it's set 200 years before the Phantom Menace, the High Republic era. So this is after the Old Republic, because the Old Republic was like thousands of years ago. Which they haven't touched yet in the new continuity. I think they're going to work their way back.

Yeah, probably. And it's going to be a series of novels and comic books dealing with a new threat, and they're like space vikings or whatever, and they're like, there's too much bad stuff going on in Star Wars at the moment. Yeah, right. Let's sort it out.

Sure. And the Jedi are kind of in their prime. And presumably Yoda will have to be in it. Yeah. But for the moment, it's no TV shows, no movies. It's a purely literary endeavor. Wasn't there some suggestion that it might have been video games as well? Yeah, potentially. We don't know. Literary endeavor. Wasn't there some suggestion that it might have been video games as well? Yeah, potentially.

We don't know. There is stuff. There was also something cancelled a week or two weeks ago. Another thing that the PA cancelled. But, I mean, also, I mean, the primary news is there is a piece of, like, concept art and these yellow lightsabers in it. So, obviously, that's something. That's real, isn't it?

Yeah. I mean, they also have one in the last movie. Well, I mean, yeah, but once that's canon again in Rise of Skywalker, now they can put it in anything. Oh, speaking of lightsabers, Rise of Skywalker, John Stratman, incredible animator. 16 bit scenes, yeah. And Kenny Mack, who does the music.

There's a new one that should be up by now. It's on the Velveteen fight from that movie. I don't love that movie, but they have done an incredible job. There's some stuff in there. There's a bit where Ben Solo like tumbles down the – and he does like a 16-bit kind of spin, and it just kind of melted my brain. And the bit when Palpatine gets like dissolved at the end,

it's like this 16-bit kind of flesh tearing off. It's just incredible. Okay, that's really good. So, I mean, it's a bit of self-promom, Mason, but who would I be? What kind of YouTuber would I be if I wasn't like, hit us up in the description, dogs. That's right.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, like and subscribe. Dogs. Dogs. Yeah. Nice, good stuff. Anyway, are you going to read anything in this Project Illuminis?

I can see you delving into a comic potential. Yeah, yeah. That's probably what I'll do. I'll start with a comic and if it really grabs me, I'll check out a book maybe. Yeah. Yeah. That's probably what I'll do. I'll start with a comic, and if it really grabs me, I'll check out a book maybe. Yeah. Because it feels very Shadows-esque, Shadows of the Empire-esque as well.

Yeah, like a new project. Yeah, so I think that's really interesting. Anyway, Mason, you got the hottest of scoops. Are we talking about the hottest of scoops, though? Maybe not the main thing. Do you want to talk about the other things? Let me check. Let me check.

Because there's some other things in that scoop that you got. Oh, I see. Because we received a scoop this week which I feel would be a... It's a massive spoiler if it's real. Yeah. It's a massive spoiler for the TV show Falcon and Winter Soldier.

And we debated we are confident it is real but we feel like we shouldn't mention it. Yes. Because we feel bad, specifically you feel bad, for ruining the Matt Damon cameo from Thor. I don't feel that bad. About a year in advance.

But let's just say, to be clear, we do have a big scoop. So when this TV series comes out and people are like, whoa, just be clear we knew in advance because we were trying to think of a way to prove that we know this right but there's no way we could no the only thing we could have done is we discussed is we write it on a piece of paper we put it in an envelope and then we put it in front of a continuously operating webcam until falcon and winter soldier comes out and then once the the bigger the reveals or whatever it is happens yeah we take it out of the envelope

and go see told you and if i'd be so dumb that i'd probably put the envelope off screen before i ever do it uh-huh and people wouldn't believe us but there's other i think there's some minor stuff you can talk about we can't tell you how we got this but but look, we will. Here's a minor reveal. Batroc the Leaper will be back. Love it. Was he kicked off a boat in the last movie? I think he was tied up. Right. Anyway, he's back.

There were people kicked off a boat, but not him specifically. That's correct, yes. Also, apparently Anthony Mackie's always late to set. He's goofing off. What is he doing? Well, he's probably... He'll be doing Altered Carbon 2. Exactly.

He's probably reading the script for Altered Carbon Season 3 and he's like, oh, jeez, I've got another TV show to do. Now that I think about it, there's really not a lot of information there without the main thing. That's what I'm talking about. See, that's what I'm saying. That's a pretty good get, isn't it? Yeah.

That's not nothing. That's not nothing, exactly. Yeah. And the other thing, we feared that this was a fake leak that would somehow get back to the person who leaked it and they would get fired. We also debated the ethics behind that.

But I think, also it might be fake, but I think it's a good thing and people will be happy if it's a real thing. Yes. Yeah. And that's the end of that, isn't it? Everybody gets sent $100. If you finish watching Falcon and Winter Soldier,

they send you $100. It's the Andrew Yang Disney Plus. That's right. Winning combination. That's right, yeah. There we go. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies

on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret. The other, a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+. Mason? Yes? There's invisible men about.

Well, at least one. I can't see any James Oh no that means he's here Or not He might also not be here That's part of his charm isn't it Yeah That's what I call it

His charm Yes Do you want to talk box office Yes Opening weekend of About 27 million dollars Maybe a bit under Maybe a bit over

In the US alone Which is a big return Because this cost 7 million to make. Yeah, right. Super low budget, which I didn't really think about until after and then went, oh, yeah, that's pretty super low budget because they do a really good job. We'll even help you direct this.

We also did last one. Upgrade. Upgrade. Also, I feel did a really good job of taking the bare minimum and making it look much bigger and more intricate than it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I wonder what the secret to that is. I guess just pre-planning.

Yeah, think about it. Just think about it for a minute. Just think about it for a second. Also, put an invisible man in it so you don't have to show anything for the majority of the film. If there even is an invisible man, because of spoilers, obviously, we're going to do a little bit.

There's things that we can't really talk about, including about whether the invisible man is real. If they are real, how does that even happen? Is it all a dream, et cetera? I feel like if you want to see the Invisible Man, you can't. He's invisible. But if you want to see the movie The Invisible Man, don't listen to this in advance.

And probably if you've managed to avoid the trailer, don't watch the trailer either. I only watched it once, and I'm really glad that I'd never watched anything else because there was a lot of stuff in here that I'd forgotten from the trailers that I was really surprised by. Yeah, same. And I thought this was great.

Me too, yeah. I thought it was really good. And I'd just love to know what you think the story was, obviously. Oh, no. I was going to say I hope that this becomes very successful just because I want to see more mid-budget movies where they think about it, as you mentioned before. Like if you have $150 million, you don't have to think about it

and then your movie's bad because you didn't think about it. You're like, just throw more money at it, more great screens. Well, CJ, we'll fix it in post. We'll fix it in post. They couldn't have fixed this in post. I mean, they probably could fix some of it in post. I mean, they had a limited budget though. Well, exactly.

Because they thought about it. Nobody would have given them any more money. So this is Blumhouse. Yes. Right, right, right. Anyway, the story is, okay, so Lizzie Moss is a lady. Yeah. And she's in a terrible relationship with a terrible man.

So she says. I'm just looking at both sides, Mason. No, don't do that. People accuse this podcast of PC gone mad. Oh, yes. No, you're right right she's in a terrible relationship with an awful man uh he's uh he's like an optics billionaire he's like uh like uh you know a real he sucks he sucks he's a guy who sucks but he's rich yeah uh and and one

day she escapes the relationship yeah the dead on ice uh and then in the and then she sort of she she goes to live in a friend's house and then she sort of lives in fear there's going to be some sort of retaliation, something bad's going to happen to her and so she feels like she should be free. But then she's like, what if there's an invisible man?

What if there's an invisible man? If anybody could have done it, it's this guy. But maybe he didn't. Maybe he didn't do it. Maybe he did. And that's what the movie's about. It's all part of its charm, isn't it?

You're like, oh, this is so whimsical. Is he dead or not? It really is. Is he psychologically torturing this woman and physically just doing all sorts of awful stuff? I like to look at both sides. Both sides, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

We'll talk about it in spoilers. This is obviously the best Dark Universe thing since the first Mummy. Now, it's definitely, now it's still universal. Yes, but it's also Blumhouse. Yeah, and not just to be clear one spoiler for this movie there is no dark universe title page i was kind of disappointed they too right yeah yeah but people would have laughed also i think a swing didn't they yeah yeah i was hoping the universal logo would turn into dark universe but i thought it would turn invisible, but they didn't. Also, about ten minutes into this movie,

a couple of people behind me, one guy went and said really loudly, well, I thought this was going to be a Marvel superhero movie, but it's a horror movie. Should we go? And then they left. That's your fault for promoting Marvel based too much. I guess that's probably true, yeah. That's unbelievable.

What about the poster? I guess there was a man in the title. true, yeah. That's unbelievable. What about the poster set? I guess there was a man in the title. Yeah, they said in The Invisible Man. Yeah. Because they're all like the man something. That's true. Captain America man. Captain America man.

Captain Marvel man. These are all big names. Exactly, yep. Hulkman. Hulkman. Jonathan Hulkman. Exactly. It would have cost like 40 bucks for two tickets.

What are they doing? Just stay. Just stay. It's quite good also it's a good movie so Lee Whannell I read a I watched a really

good interview with him where he's talking about like why he made this particular version and he's like because a lot of the times they don't do the core of what a character

is justice and there are updates to this film which we'll talk more about in spoilers it's often like what if Dracula was in the CIA

and he's talking about the trailer it's like first they feared him now they work with him yeah yeah right exactly and he's like i don't want to fucking see dracula in the cia you know just give me being arrested by the british cia and give it an ipad and he gets an ipad well that's exactly what i'm talking about because that's way more interesting when it's not that yeah yeah and it's amazing to me that this is both a modern update and a reboot and it still remains true to the horror kind of aspects of this character. And it's horrifying for a lot of reasons, but it's also like it seems to be quite an accurate representation

of like an abusive, toxic relationship. And whether or not it's someone with powers or it's just a horrible psychological thriller, like I feel it really puts the nail, it hits the nail on the head in terms of like, oh, that's what this person would do. And this is how a person would, you know, escape this relationship.

And this is how someone who wants this person back would act in a you know horrible lashing out kind of way exactly in a sinister kind of scheming way if they could be an invisible man which this movie may or may not have may not have right yeah elizabeth moss she may be a scientologist that is that is true yes but uh she's great and she does a great frazzled kind of broken on the edge when we've seen it in the handmaid's tale yep but she's great, and she does a great frazzled, kind of broken, on the edge. I mean, we've seen it in The Handmaid's Tale. But she's excellent in this. Sure, yeah.

And a lot of it is her looking at nothing, going like, being terrified. Right, yeah. For a lot of this movie. Also, this movie is really tense. I don't know how you felt. I had a few moments where I'm like, I could just leave. You should have gone out with that cover. Right?

Because you thought it was a Marvel movie. But I could have stood up and said, I also thought this was a Marvel movie. I'm like, I could just leave. You should have gone out with that cover. Because you thought it was a Marvel movie. But I could have stood up and said, I also thought this was a Marvel movie. I'm not scared. Not scared though. Those guys, they were with me. I've got the keys, so I have to go with them, obviously. Do people just go into a movie not... I don't, I guess

so, yeah. Have you ever done that? Never. Have you ever walked into a movie ever and not known what it is? Never, ever. Yeah, weird. The locations on this are really limited as well. There's like a house and another house and a hospital and whatever. There's not a lot going on. And there's a lot of framing of things that are in the room that maybe aren't in the room.

Like it's like, look at this empty chair. Or like they'll frame a shot where somebody might be standing right behind that person even though the frame is empty. Yeah, right. I thought that was a really interesting way to kind of be like well this this movie i find the reason for there is so much tension in this is that it's not like a a movie where you have to it's not a horror movie where you have to watch out for a a knife wielding lunatic or whatever where you know there's only limited places in a room they could be. Maybe they're under the bed.

Maybe they're in a closet or something like that. Yeah. And if it's not framed in a way such as, you know, they could be, you're like, well, obviously he's not in this room. But this is a room, this is a movie in which if he isn't even real, that he could be, you know, He could be literally anywhere. Exactly.

Like her fear and your fear, the audience's fear, is that he is in the room, but you can't see him because he's invisible. So any inch of that room could have him in it and you don't know. That's right. And that is why she is losing her mind so comprehensively and why there's so much tension in this

because you can't just go, well, we're in an empty room. There's so much empty space and we can't see him, so he can't be there. He could be in another room. That's bad, but he's not in this room. Right, exactly. There's a lot of practical effects in this stuff, those moments where things move or things are pinned down

or held or hidden. And a lot of that is just string. Again, this might have been a different interview, where it was just whatever the best way to do it was. Like a string is better than a green screen, kind of green screen suit moving stuff around or whatever. Yeah, right, right. Which also is a big part of this.

Which, again, I can't really talk about in spoilers because it kind of delves into what's real and what's not. All we're saying is maybe there's Invisible Man, maybe it's all in her head, maybe it's just a dude with a lot of strings. He's rigged the house up Home Alone style. It's a Geppetto origin story. Oh, my God.

Dark Universe. It's back, baby. Geppetto, though. Nice. Do you want to do spoilers? Let's do spoilers. I do want to talk about stuff, but I just can't. Her friends are good.

Everyone else is casted because she spends a lot of time with this friend of hers whose name I don't know. Her sister is played by an Australian actor. Oh, really? Let's see. Is it filmed in Australia? I don't know. But her sister, Emily Cass, played by Harriet Dyer, was in the Stan series The Other Guy. Oh, I haven't know But her sister Emily Cass Played by Harriet Dyer Was in the Stan series

The Other Guy Oh I haven't seen that yet She's the best friend Of the main character The best friend Of the main character And the character That is based on

Becky Lucas I think Okay right Is Becky Lucas in that show No she wrote it though Oh that's how that works She co-wrote it Yep I should watch that show

It is But do I have to Give it a whirl Alright then You've got Stan Yes I do Let's not freeze it Mason Okay I'm going to look up Where this was filmed That's how that works. She co-wrote it, yep. I should watch that show. It is. But do I have to? Give it a whirl. All right then. You've got Stan. Yes, I do. Let's not freeze it, Mason.

Okay, I'm going to look up where this was filmed. And while you're doing that, I'm going to say best movie ever. I'm also going to say best movie ever. I enjoyed it. I'm not a huge horror person. Principal photography began, blah, blah, blah, something, something, doesn't matter. Sydney, Australia. I thought it was Sydney, but I did not know.

I should have put it in an envelope. Got that webcam going. Yes. So, spoilers. So, he is an in an envelope. Got that webcam going. Yes. So, spoilers. So, he is an invisible man. He's an invisible man. But the way that they do it, he has a... He's got the James Bond invisible car of suits. He's compacted the invisible car in Die Another Day,

the great movie we mentioned just earlier. Yeah. And he's made it into a suit. So, the suit is a series of cameras, and I guess... Invisible screens? Hologram projectors or... Where's the messages about how does that work with... Because you can't see...

You obviously can't see the suit. Yep. But it'd have to have a screen over the... It's projecting what's behind it. Yes, exactly. It's capturing the image from behind it. But flawlessly. Yeah, exactly.

Well, how he's doing it is he's the villain. Yes. That's how he's doing it. Exactly. That's how it works. It doesn't matter how it works. Because I know we also got a tweet or an email that was like,

when did he go to the toilet? Maybe in the suit. Well, how often? Well, that's the thing. So in this movie... You can't think about it. No, exactly. You can't think about it.

There is some stuff that I feel maybe doesn't add up that I can't recall just off the top of my head that I'm sure we will probably get to at a certain point. Yeah. But yeah,

you just have to take as given that the suit works flawlessly because he's a billionaire and he's driven because he's a lunatic and he wants to ruin this person's life. Yes. Oh, that's what I was going to say. This movie is not only...

It may not only just scare you because you're afraid of an invisible killer who's coming to get you. It also might upset you if you're one of those people that doesn't like, you know, they have that phobia of lots of holes on a thing. It's trypophobia. I wrote it down.

Charlie Clawson has it as well. Oh, boy. Yeah, I was like, why is this upsetting? I'm like, oh, it's that thing of if you don't know what it is. It's also thousands of eyeballs, I guess, is what it kind of looks like. Just look up trypophobia. It might not be said like that.

And you'll probably have a terrible reaction to it. You won't like it. It's not good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what I thought was interesting about that, up trypophobia it might not be said like that and you'll probably have a terrible reaction to it you won't like it's not yeah yeah so and yeah so what i thought it was interesting about that it wasn't just like like a morph suit yeah right it was genuinely upsetting to look at because when one of the one of the things that i remember i only remember from the trailer when it happened in the movie is when she dunks the paint can on him yeah and you see that kind of hexagonal yeah effect underneath the paint which gives away that it's a stealth suit yeah so that's the trailer ruins it um what it's going to say is that i felt a little from time to

time a little bit unclear as how long he was in the house did he come and go or was he in there roof and was he in the roof most of the time i presume he came came and went. Right, yeah. But I don't know. Because he was seeing his brother and whatever. Because he first enters the house when Elizabeth Moss opens the door to go outside for a minute. And you see her breath and you see his breath. And then he goes in the house, presumably. Didn't he open the door, though?

Oh, yeah, he did, too. So he may have been leaving or he may have just opened. Yeah, he could have been. We don't know how long he was in there for. Yeah, right. But ultimately, it doesn't really matter. There's a couple of scenes I think where I won, like whether he's in the room or not in the room

makes a difference plot-wise. Towards the end when she steals the pen from his brother and takes it in with her into her cell, if he was in the room with her, he would know that she's got that. But apparently, but I guess he was just not in the room. Well, only when he was. No, but I mean, I think what, I think presumably what happened there is.

Oh, she didn't see, he didn't see her take the. Take the pen. Yeah, right. And then the, then when she was in the cell with the orderly, he wasn't in there. Presumably because there just physically wasn't enough room in there for three people. And then when he left, when the orderly left, he went in. He went in, yeah.

That's entirely possible. I also think that there is a possibility that he didn't do any of this stuff. Like that he was a terrible boyfriend or husband. Are they married? I don't know if they are. I think it was boyfriend. And because at the end, you don't think he's going to get away with it, but he maybe frames his brother for all of these crimes

and his brother made him do it and he was brought it up. It's also entirely possible that she killed him for no reason. Right. Which I think is really interesting. I mean, not no reason. Obviously, yeah, but not for the Invisible Man stuff. Sure. The terrible boyfriend.

I'm killing you for the other stuff also. That's what she should have said. If you were, in fact, the Invisible Man, that would be the cherry on top. Yeah. But the fact that you were awful, that's mainly why you're getting killed right now. I'm really glad this camera that's recording this

while I'm invisible doesn't record audio also. Yeah. You know what I thought was great about that invisible suit? Yes. When she does... The act that it could turn invisible. That's great. But when she does stab it

and the way that it would blink on and off that looks incredible I just thought that was such an interesting effect and when he's in the corridor and he's

killing people and shooting people so is that you may know from the production of this when he's in the corridor

is that a green suit and they're blinking it on and off in post it might be I actually don't

know that specifically but if I had to guess I would say probably half green screen suit, half actual real suit maybe? Yeah, maybe. Or that suit actually is probably mostly CGI. I'd imagine. But yeah, I also think, because she does put it on,

she becomes Invisible Man at one point. Yes. And she murders him at the end, which was, which was great. But I couldn't help think that, like, I'd imagine it was like pulling around the knees. They're like a completely different shape.

Yeah. Right. Right. Right. So it still works flawlessly. That doesn't matter. Yeah. Doesn't really matter.

So I'd, yeah, there's a lot of throat cutting in this. Oh my God. Yeah. If one of your, if you have three fears, invisible killers,

too many eyes or holes and getting your throat cut maybe don't watch this movie yeah that moment in the where they're having the discussion in the restaurant yeah and you just see the knife floating there and then yeah man yeah horrifying really intense yeah yeah uh so maybe a sequel yeah well she's the invisible man she's the Invisible Man. She's the Invisible Man. Yeah. So she steals the suit and her friend's like, carry on. This is all right. I'm okay with this. I guess this is fine.

But I would definitely say something else about this from this. Yeah. We've got a video upcoming. We haven't recorded it yet. Would you see- That upcoming stuff. More classic monsters, perhaps, with the film rights owned by Universal

in some sort of dark universe? Well, we've actually made a list. Oh, yes. There's going to be a video this week of what's upcoming. Because if you thought the dark universe was dead, Mason, you're a darn fool. I am a darn fool. It's true. But they're not all like Invisible Man, modern day spin-offs.

Different companies have them. They're not all Blumhouse, basically. There's an Invisible Woman film being planned by Elizabeth Banks, but it's not related to this. Okay. Even though she became the Invisible Woman. And it's not Fantastic Four Invisible Woman based. No.

It's just like six million dollar man, bionic woman style. It's like a... I know also that... Is it based on the original story? I think it's on... Yeah, or one of. I don't know. I don't know about this shit.

But I know that... What I did like about the suit also, I think it's on, yeah, or one of. I don't know. I don't know anything about this shit. But I know that what I did like about the suit also, I think even though it's not very believable, it's more believable than he has a serum and is invisible. Yes, absolutely. Because isn't that also the idea that you couldn't see anything if you're invisible because the light needs to reflect off the back of your eye? Yes, that's true, yeah.

It's all semantics. It doesn't really matter, does it? It doesn't matter at all. But I like the modern update. And it's explained enough for me to go, fine. He's an optics expert and I'm totally okay with that. That's what he would do. Yeah. And he's dead now and that's good.

It is good. And his brother's dead and that's good. There's also, she's the invisible man. Yes. That's good. That's all good. We're having a good time. Yeah, go and see it.

It's good. It's really tense. But don't. Upsetting. Don't have listened this far this far in yeah why did you listen this far in yeah there's one of you i know there's one of you you're always here but maybe you haven't got the time that's true no thing look i mean there's you know sometimes we have listeners who are like i don't have time and i don't want to see this movie but i'll listen yeah to the spoilers and some there's there's one person who's like i'm going to listen i'm going to watch this movie now i don't want to be spoiled but i am listening all the way through.

That's right. Well, we got you. We got you. And you're going to jail. Do we have any more thoughts on the invisible man? He's a very visible man at points. It's true, yeah. But I thought that was okay.

Did you ever think that he wasn't real? Ooh. No, for me, from the trailers. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, if I had not seen the first... I think I'd seen a thumbnail of that hexagonal paint throw thing. Yeah, right.

You know what I think was unbelievable? The fact that he got that paint off him that quickly. Right. Yeah. Also, that paint can was open. That's true, yeah. You've got to pry them open with a screwdriver. I don't know if you've ever done that.

It takes a bit. It takes a bit of work. And you've got to do it all the way around the rim, otherwise you kind of bend them out of shape when you do it. That's true, yeah. I know things. Also, I assume, yes, apparently we say assume wrong, or weirdly. I don't care.

I do care. Okay. I only aim to please really pedantic. I assumed you did. No, no, no. I just want pedantic fuckwits to, I want to please them specifically. Okay, cool. But he didn't realize that the second suit was taken initially

because it's invisible. Sure. Because he had it hanging up in his... Yeah, right, right, right. And then I imagine after his brother was killed and he went to look for it, he's like, my brother must have taken it at some point. Yeah, right. Because he was two or three steps ahead of her the whole time

except for that. Yeah, yeah, right. And because he didn't know her hiding spot, which was good because they established at the start that he didn't know her hiding spot. So it worked out for me. That's what I'm saying, that plot hole. I thought you maybe have that plot hole.

I want to get ahead of it. I think there's one, but I can't recall what it is. I'll just mention it apropos of nothing next week when we're not doing spoiler talk. I'll just be like, is this thing about the invisible man? Yep. No, did he really do it? Probably.

But even if he didn't, choppy chop. Yeah. That's good fun. I mean, don't murder, obviously. No, I mean, don't do any murders. But I mean, if you get the chance and you're in an invisible suit, why not? Fill your boots.

Yeah. You pulled up boots. You pulled up boots. All right, do you know what it's time for? Oh, is it time for what we're reading? Yes. And then what we're reading? Yes And then what we're gonna read I've written letters here

I've got these backwards Oh my god I know I haven't You son of a bitch You don't need to talk like that Mason Get you I'll be invisible man I'll bloody cut your throat mate

No Yeah I'll do it You won't even know I'm there Until I go like I'm the invisible man Well see that's your Did they take out the thing from the trailer From the handprint on the glass?

Cause that was a bare hand. Oh. I think that didn't happen in the movie. I might be wrong. No, because... Well, that's the thing, because there is a scene, I think, maybe... Is there a scene where she takes a shower, not in the hospital, but in a regular house? And I feel...

That's a moment where I'm like, oh, that's... Invariably, that's a scene where a killer's going to do a killer thing. Yeah. But it didn't happen. Like, it was a... Yeah. Okay. So then, yeah, I think I'm right.

I don't think... Yeah. I don't think... Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Anyway, what were we reading? Because otherwise it would be a serum if it was that way.

Yes. And that's not on. Now, you've been watching... Hang on. I haven't put the theme song in. Oh, my God. I'm doing the theme. So you were saying before I yelled at you? You? I'm doing the thing. What are we reading today?

I'm sorry, you were saying before I yelled at you. You? We're watching. You've been watching a TV show on Netflix. Yes. What's it called? I'm not okay with this. I'm only like two and a half in.

And it's superhero-esque? I don't know. I have no idea. There's things of like, let's go, go, pals. What's going on? Okay. But I don't know.

Okay. And you're enjoying it. Well, you're? Okay. But I don't know. Okay. And you're enjoying it. Well, you're not enjoying it. I am enjoying it. So I started that maybe a couple of hours before you came over. After I did my day of gardening in the garden. They made me garden. Oh, no.

You don't understand, though. I don't like any of that shit. I'd rather pay a guy. And then I looked at my bank account and went. You should probably just do it yourself. But, hey, you wouldn't be unfamiliar with hoeing. That's right, he's back. What's that?

Where's my white wine? What's the name of that character? Jurassic Snark. Jurassic Snark, of course. I enjoyed all the Jurassic Snark memes. Me too. Very good. Oh, that's very exciting.

Also, watch the first episode of Altered Carbon. Season two. There's an Anthony Mackie now. He's back and he's Mack. Anthony Mackie. And he's got magnetic hands. Yeah, he's got magnetic hands. Lucky he doesn't get stuck to a fridge.

I mean, I watched one. It's the same. It seems to be for the most part. I think the switching out of the main character is not a problem at all. Do you feel like... Except that he's always late, apparently. Yeah, do you think Anthony Mackie's performance is materially any different from...

Yeah, they're all different. Whenever he's in a different body, it's just different. It's just part of it. It's just a guy, yeah. It doesn't really matter. It's a different guy, right, right, right. That's not what I want to talk about, Mason.

Oh. I want to talk about Gus, which is described as the 1976 sports drama on Disney+. We watched 13 minutes of it. God, excruciating. I forgot we'd done that. Yes.

So it's about... We were just skimming Disney+, to be like, what shit is on this? And you had to kind of... I had to put it alphabetical to really be able to go through, because you can't find these old weird movies easily. Right, exactly. You can't just go to the search function and type in bad movie because according to Disney, everything they've ever made is great.

So we just scroll down until we found the movie Gus, which is about an Eastern European mule that turns out to be really good at kicking field goals and then I guess is recruited. It's like Air Bud but the 60s. 70s. 70s. Yeah.

And there's terrible back projection at various points. Oh, like terrible grain screen. It's incredibly unfunny and just horrible. It's a horrible movie. And we made the promise to watch. We're going to watch 13 minutes of it every time we hang out until it's finished. Until we're finished. That's right. And then we kill ourselves. Correct's finished. Until we're finished. That's right.

And then we kill ourselves, obviously. Yeah, so that's exciting. So yeah, that's also what I've been watching. Good stuff. Not good. Oh my goodness. I watched a film this week. Speaking of lower budget films,

I watched a movie from 2018 called The Guilty. It's from Denmark. It's a foreign film, James. Can you even believe that? I would never. It's a good film. Not in my country. So it's one of those, it's like a bottle episode film. Yeah, The Guilty? It's from Denmark. It's a foreign film, James. Can you even believe that? I would never. It's a good film. Not in my country. So it's one of those, it's like a bottle episode film. Yeah. It's about

it's like a thriller. It's about a former cop who is... 98%? Whoa. He's working as an emergency services dispatcher. He's answering emergency phone calls. And then he hears about, he receives an emergency call from a kidnapped woman and then

he sort of has to uh unkidnap unkidnapper and and figure out but he's fixing somebody else's kidnapping it's not his own kidnapping not his own kidnapping he's in fact safe safe as houses in the emergency services like safe danish houses yeah probably really well bricked i'd imagine that'd be so incredible foundations oh God. Maybe the roof is grass or something. Nice, but still fireproof. That's right. Right under a windmill. But it's one of those movies, it's set entirely in the dispatch office.

Oh, really? So you never go out to anywhere. It's just a series of phone calls, and it's basically as you learn about the situation that's happening outside, you also learn about his situation, Like what's he doing there? Like he's a cop. What's he doing in the bloody call center kind of thing. It's real good.

The guy directed this is 32 years old. Oh my God. He's so successful already. Good Lord. So it's in the same vein as, do you remember that movie Searching with John Cho? Oh, John Cho. Yeah.

So you're looking at screens and stuff? No, you're not even really looking at screens. And stuff. It's just on the phone. You're looking at phones and stuff. Like phone booth're not even really looking at screens. And stuff. It's just on the phone. You're looking at phones and stuff. Like phone booth. Yeah.

That was fun, wasn't it? It's like, what's another good one? Like Buried. I was going to say, was Buried good though? I enjoyed it. I know a lot of people didn't enjoy that one. I did not. We saw it together. Did we?

Okay, cool. Nice. No, I did not enjoy it. That snake got in. That snake got in. To the movie theatre. No, into did not enjoy it. That snake got in. That snake got in. To the movie theatre. No, into the buried coffin. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Pretty good. Snakes don't do that. So in Australia, if you want to watch it, it's on SBS On Demand. Is it? So you can watch it. That's a terrible app with a lot of good stuff on it. Right, for nothing.

But it's also on Google Play and stuff. I might just pay for it. Yeah, good call. Because I saved so much money on gardening today. Feeling really good. Nice. Did we talk about Gus? Of course we talked about Gus.

We've talked about everything. Oh my God, everything we watched and read this week. Yeah. Do you want to do the next segment of the show? Letters theme? That sounds really great. I'm going to watch that. Yeah, you should get it in here.

I will. The classic one was... Letters, oh letters, we love you. Some letters, they're only a day away. I know they're here right now. We're going to do letters. My God, we are going to do letters. I just realised.

Yeah, that's right. We're among it. If you do want to reach the show, hashtag Weekly Planet Pod on Twitter or weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com. Mason, do you have a letter? Or do you want me to do a letter? I've got numerous letters, James.

I love letters. This is from Ian. It says budgets and stuff. So this is a question for you. Hi guys, love you guys. So that's softening the blow a little bit. I'm confused about two things. One, why do you say movie budgets

need to be doubled to account for marketing? Because that's generally the rule. But there's also other factors like how much money the box office like the actual physical studio like the like yeah well this says you say surely the marketing spend is not dependent on how much it costs to make the movie no no that's true but that is the general it's a general rule yes it's not it's not a it's not a hard and fast rule but it's one of those things that also they fudge everything all the time exactly we have't really reveal. We have no idea. No, exactly, yeah.

A lot of stuff. I mean, it could be more than that. It usually is. Yeah, yeah. But sometimes it's nothing. Like, a lot of... You know, a lot of movies we've talked about this year and last year where it's like, that movie sank like a stone.

It didn't make any money. It's like, well, I didn't see any advertising for it at all. Yes. Like, sometimes it's... Charlie's Angels. I was exactly thinking of Charlie's Angels. Like, it's... That was Angels. I was exactly thinking of Charlie's Angels. Like it's- That was this year, by the way.

For whatever reason, people are like, they make the decision to be like, we don't want to advertise this. We don't think it's going to make its money back, so we're not going to advertise it at all. Or often they don't know how to advertise it. Yeah, right, right, right. Like Liam Neeson's Wolf Fight.

They were like, how are we going to advertise this Wolf Fight? It doesn't even have a Wolf Fight. They're like, let's pretend it's got a Wolf Fight. Let's pretend it's got a Wolf Fight, exactly. That's right, yeah. It doesn't matter to me because that movie was good regardless. Also, the second question, does product placement revenue deserve to be mentioned

when discussing a movie's box office performance? I'm not sure how much money advertising brings into a movie, but shouldn't it count towards the financial success of the movie? I think it depends. Yeah. Like Bond, I think James bond is a good example like sonic sonic for sure but like james bond especially the brosnan years but i think i i remember i think one of the daniel craig movies a company offered like 50 million dollars to use their phones in it

and they turned it down so i think it might have been samsung or something like that it may have also been that they were off. They already had that money from another. Sony Ericsson probably. Also, there's Sony movies, so they're not going to put up Samsung. No, 100%. Partially Sony. Yeah, yeah, but there are some movies that attract huge promotional deals.

Like I imagine, and again, I guess sometimes it's a quick. All the Marvel movies do it a quid all the marvel movies do it yeah all the marvel movies there's there's audi for sure but is does audi and dumb glasses how much does does audi pay marvel to put their cars in or is it a like a quid pro quo situation where it's like i know because we always kind of gloss over when we talk about it because it is so complicated and every situation is different. Because if you're talking about advertising, does the military count? If Michael Bay gets all the tanks for free or whatever shit he's making,

that also factors into the budget. Tanks for nothing, he says. Tanks for nothing, he would say. I'm going to make this crap film now. So it's just so specific to each individual case. And I wonder also, like, I wonder if initially Marvel went to Audi and said, hey, can we use some Audi's for these movies? We'll promote.

We don't have any money, but we'll promote it kind of thing. And maybe the balance has shifted over the years. Now they're like, we could have any car company we want. So if you pay us $50 million. We'll put DeLoreans in this. We don't give a shit. Exactly. So if you pay us $50 million now, we'll put it out.

Like maybe it changes. We don't know. We'll get the Homer from The Simpsons made for real. We'll just make every car that. We don't give a shit. That's right. Exactly. Speaking of, did you see this week, Ryan Johnson did.

I haven't watched that yet. So there's a Vanity Fair video. Side note, I don't know what Vanity Fair does. Like I know they're a magazine. Exclusive access to the Starz Nation, probably. But are they, is it fashion or is it celebrities? Like, what is it? It's whatever.

I assumed it was like a fashion magazine, but I guess it's not. It's a bit of everything, you would say. But anyway. Entertainment, TV, politics, celebrity, fashion and beauty news. Oh my goodness. And commentary. Oh. There's two N's in that sentence.

Don't do that. So this week, so they do a series of videos on YouTube called Notes on a Scene. Yes. And this week they got Rian Johnson to come in and talk about a scene from Knives Out. Yeah. And it was very fascinating. They can be quite short, but this was like 20-something minutes long.

And it's the scene in which Ransom shows up and everybody blows their top. Yeah, that's a great scene. Chris Evans' Ransom shows up. And the biggest takeaway, I think, from this thing, the trade secret, which I think people from this thing, the trade secret, which I think people sort of had an idea was true, but nobody had confirmed,

it's that Apple will allow you to use their products in a movie. Oh, right, yeah. But a villain is not allowed to be seen using an Apple product. Yes. So if you see a movie and you're not sure if a character is a good guy or a bad guy and they're holding sure if a character is a good guy or a bad guy, and they're holding an iPhone, they're a good guy. But if it's like, look at this prick with his Sony Ericsson.

Yeah, exactly. That's right. Oh, he's using Bing. It's the villain. Oh, my God. I don't know if he did it or not, but execute him. Yeah. I do wonder when that came in, because I know having read that,

there are recent-ish examples of that. Yeah. How recent? I can't remember off the top of my head. Well, maybe this is an elaborate double bluff. Maybe Apple's paid him to say this. That's entirely possible. I don't know.

Maybe they just lied to Rian Johnson specifically. Maybe they're just like, we don't like Rian Johnson. We don't like Looper. Maybe Apple have had enough bad press over the years, like recently, that they're like, well, we can't have any more. We didn't like Looper. So maybe Apple have had enough bad press over the years, like recently, that they're like, well, we can't have any more. We can't have villains. But at the same time, wouldn't you want to- I think that's kind of lunacy.

Yeah, but wouldn't you want a cool villain to be like carrying your cool product? Because villains always have like the cool ones, like the James Bond ones. So all villains. Yeah, they'll have like a cool car and a cool watch and whatever. So that's kind of odd to me. Isn't it though, yeah. Because people So all villains. Yeah, they'll have like a cool car and a cool watch and whatever. So that's kind of odd to me. Isn't it though? Yeah. Yeah.

Because people also like villains. Yeah. You'd think they'd have the latest iPhone. If that is true, which I have no reason to believe it's not. Right. It's odd to me. Yeah. But it was also just the video generally is just pretty fascinating in terms of.

What I love about those is they just let them talk. Yeah. Because often an interview for me is like, this is excruciating because of the way this is handled and because of Hot Ones, which I do like, where they're eating spicy wings. Now it's like, you have to deflate 40 basketballs and answer questions about what's balancing on this chair.

It's stunt interviews. Yeah, and we're also going to run through your whole filmography and you've got to pat this dog. It's like, can we just fucking back up from this shit? Just let him talk. I much prefer, I prefer an off-screen interviewer who maybe asks a question and then they just let- Shut them out.

Just let the actor or the director or whatever just roll and I don't want to see it back and forth. No. I hate it. It's no good. Yeah, yeah. Because it's always like I'm a big fan and they're like, thanks and whatever.

And we've done that because you don't want to be like aloof and not be like, I do actually like. I don't care what your answers are. But yeah, with a good interviewer, though, it's different again. Well, that's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's, you know. And whether they're asking Hans all about Force Ghosts or not. Do you like the Google autocomplete?

I think that can be all right. I do, but as I've said, if anybody at Wired is listening, tell the actor. Show them how many cards. Show them how many cards there are in advance because there's always a moment where they think they're done. They've done card number one. Yeah.

And they're like, all right, thanks, everyone. And they're like, oh, there's more cards. And you just see them deflate. So just tell them. Tell them in advance. Yeah. I think also with those, skip the one where it's like who is daniel radcliffe it's like don't put that in right everybody watching this is is across who dad is at this point yeah and i know it's a chance for

them to be like well it's me or who do you want me to be it's like don't get it we fucking how about this you keep it in. And when they say, well, I'm Daniel Rutt, you get somebody to come in and go, we know. Stop. Move on. But you gave me the, shut up. Also, apparently, like, Michael Shannon, like,

improvised a lot of stuff on the, him just screaming at Chris Evans is apparently just all him. Just on the day. Oh, great. He's terrific. He was a good Zod too Yeah right He should be more things He is in many things

He's in a lot of things because he's a good actor It's weird that works out sometimes I've only seen him in recent Oh yeah he's in Pearl Harbour I was like shit this guy's in Pearl Harbour Oh yeah right Yeah Quick look him up

See what else he's in recently Let's do it They've changed the format of Google. I know. I do not like it. Oh yeah, Shape of Water. He's in Groundhog Day. Shane Reaction.

Chicago Club. Have you seen Tigerland? Oh yeah, yeah. Do you know who directed Tigerland? No. Joel Schumacher. There you go. How?

Okay, I've learned that before. Pearl Harbor. Vanilla Sky. I don't mind Vanilla Sky. I don't mind Vanilla Sky. I know it's probably not as good as a remake. High Crimes. That's one of the ones with, what's her name?

Ashley Judd. And she's like, my husband's been murdered or I've been framed for a murder or whatever. I like Ashley Judd. Eight Mile, Kangaroo Jack. There you go. Bad Boys 2. Grant F. Parsons, Criminal in 2004. What's that? There's a lot of movies called Criminal. There really go. Bad Boys 2. Grant F. Parsons Criminal in 2004. What's that? I don't know. There's a lot of movies called

Criminal. There really is. Yeah. The Woodsman, Bug, World Trade Center, Let's Go to Prison. I'm just skipping some stuff here. Lucky You. That was at Eric Banner plays poker movie with Drew Barrymore. Yeah, right, right, right. Revolutionary Road. Bad Lieutenant, but the other one.

My Son, My Son, What Have Ye Done? Oh, yeah. 13, Jonah Hex. Jonah Hex. He's done some DC stuff. Machine Gun Preacher. Mud. Man of Steel.

And then I'm all in new stuff. Oh, yeah, nice. Good on him. That's what I say. Yeah, I like him. Do you have a letter, James? Oh, man, that's it. Well, pretty good, all right.

I do Alright Okay, this is from Tristan London on Twitter Hashtag Weekly Planet Pod Shoot us through some bloody We love tweets, don't we, Mason? Love tweets Hashtag Weekly Planet Pod

He sent through Tristan London sent through a Harley Quinn The Animated Series clip Have you seen any of that? I've seen multiple clips I've seen And it looks terrific It does

We don't get it here yet, though We could steal it off the internet I'm going to try because it's out now so I'm hoping it's on things I can just rent it all yeah exactly

I would like to do that because it looks amazing Alan Tudyk is the Joker and you've seen the bit where Batman gets unmasked and it's very yeah every clip I've seen has been very funny

and Commissioner Gordon is just a man on the edge it seems like he's just he's just had it with all this costume malarkey. He's had a bloody gutful, mate. Yeah, but Australia is in this weird position where the copyrights for a lot of good or the licensing deals for a lot of good stuff,

especially DC stuff, just isn't happening. You can't just get, like Doom Patrol Season 1 is going to be released in April or something like that. Yes. It's been out for more than a year. And maybe cancelled. Yeah, right? But if we bought it on DVD, they'd know. They'd know.

We could start a letter writing campaign. There doesn't seem to be any kind of, oh my God, they changed advanced search, so it's an absolute fucking nightmare now. Look at this. Because you know you click on advanced search and it's like, this is what it's open now. It's like a fucking survey Wow Yeah right I hate this

You're going to put in a CV And a cover letter To do a search Oh my god Okay So anyway What were you saying About Harley Quinn

It looks good And I haven't seen it Yeah we'll get to it Yeah We'll get to it This is from Ollie Okay Not your dog

A man Oh Let's see Now that Sam Raimi Is directing Doctor Strange Maybe Maybe Okay. Not your dog, a man. Oh, that's disappointing. Let's see. Now that Sam Raimi is directing Doctor Strange, would you please do the- Maybe. Well, there's maybe, it's true. Maybe.

All right. That's right, I'm that guy. Speculative. Yes. Could you please do the Evil Dead series for Caravan of Garbage? Oh, yeah. We could. I'd rather do Darkman, if I'm honest.

Oh, yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But we'll put it on the poll. We'll put a poll up. Yeah, cool i'm now that you mentioned dark man yeah dark man is people know this i'm sure we could do the we could continue on the trend of arnold vosloo films and do dark man die dark man die i think it's two or three it's one of them yeah sure we're on that bosley kick out but how could we do dark man die dark man die if we haven't done the original dark man it's good i'd have to keep explaining the plot of Darkman to you.

To me, specifically. I don't even know. I have seen it. I know I've seen a lot of... We used to be at the start of every VHS, like a trailer for Darkman in Australia for some reason. But anyway, it's like a Sam Raimi Superhero movie. It's incredible.

His audition for Spider-Man. There's a lot of parallels. And look up the carnival scene. That's all you need to know. This is from Patrick Webb. Hashtag weekly planet pod. In one of the new Death of the Family books,

did you get a lot of tweets about this? I did, yes. We do see the last pages where Batman says he's alive then drives off to get him to safety. Imagine how different

comics would be if he hadn't died. I just want to quickly touch on, so they did reveal, release, what it looked like. Okay, so here's the thing. Should we back up maybe? Yeah, we should back up. So they did reveal, release what it looked like. Okay. So here's the thing. Yeah.

Should we back up maybe? Yeah, we should back up. So in the 80s, the early 90s, there was a Batman storyline called Death in the Family, which teased the potential death of Jason Todd, the second Robin. Yep. And it was put in the hands of the readers. You could dial a number if you wanted him to live

and dial a number if you wanted him to die. It was hot stuff. Hot stuff. And the numbers came in favour of him being dead, so he died. But apparently there was some... One of the editors said that in his draw he had an issue where... The completed issue where Jason Todd doesn't die. Yes.

He was like, which one's going to the printers? Who knows? And I'd never seen this panel. Apparently the issue was basically the same. Here's the thing, though. Do you think it's a new thing? No, the page that, it's apparently new versions of the trade paperback which I don't have.

But it is pretty much identical to the version where he's dead. It is, yeah. They've just reversed his smile. They've reversed his smile they've reversed his his sad face so it's a smile and instead of being like oh he's dead this is a tragedy he's like hooray he's alive but he's still just this bloodied yeah body being held in in batman's arms so i'm i'm not doubting that that is real yeah i'm just saying I expected something else. Something more interesting. As opposed to just a slight tweak. Like we just, like a photo.

It's a photocopy of the penciling and then they've just changed the mouth. I wonder whether that is even real or something they just did recently. Okay, right. Because I could make that. Right, sure. And that is saying something. Wow. Or nothing.

It's saying something to someone. It's saying something to someone. It's saying something to someone. You're saying things to me right now. Yeah, that's right. But what I thought was interesting about that tweet also, the mention of how comics would be different, because so much has spun off the death of that Robin. That's true.

There's characters we wouldn't have seen. There's villains we wouldn't have seen. There's storylines that wouldn't have happened. That we wouldn't have seen. Exactly. Things we wouldn't have seen. Yeah, that's right. But there's also things wouldn't have seen, there's storylines that wouldn't have happened. That we wouldn't have seen. Exactly. Things we wouldn't have seen. Yeah, that's right. But there's also things we would have seen,

which we're now not seeing. Oh, my goodness. What are those things? We don't know. We don't live in that parallel universe. We don't. So, sorry, everyone. With that amazing alternate take comic battle.

Sorry we didn't waste our one trip to the parallel universe to see what was happening in a world where Jason Todd lives. I just wanted to see the universe where dogs wear hats that's all i wanted james you could have you could have put a hat on your own dog it's not the same though is it i guess that's true because in that world if you don't put a hat on your dogs society shuns you that's right so that i believe oh i have one more, okay. You didn't let me finish. That, I believe, is your turn. One more letter. Thank you.

That's right. That's from Vincent. He says, I'm curious as to whether there's ever been a movie, TV show, etc. that you didn't want to watch but felt like you had to for the show. Oh, my God. Any movies or TV shows you don't like or just aren't interested in but watched anyway just for the show. That's a good question.

There's a lot of... Not a lot of things. There's a lot of movies that I see that i would have waited for yeah i feel like there's not there's very little we watch that i don't derive some enjoyment out of yes even if it's dumb or or just a generally bad movie and we regret it i i've always like i've always felt like even when you watch a bad thing even not on the podcast but in our lives, like derive a lot of fun out of tearing into it. Yeah, totally. The only issues, the only time it's an issue, I think,

is when it's just an average movie. Yeah. That's when it's straight down the line average. They make the worst episodes. Yeah. And we have to be like, I don't have a lot to say about this. This movie is fine. Sonic might be a good example.

Well, that's why we didn't. Yeah. I wouldn't have seen Sonic, I Well, that's why we didn't. Yeah. I wouldn't have seen Sonic, I don't think, if we didn't do this podcast. 100%, no. Actually, I would have because I would have taken my son. Take me, yeah. But, and again, there was just,

if it was pre-rebuild of Sonic, redesign, maybe we could have just torn into it. But I wonder, I imagine the movie itself would not materially be any different. No. And all we could make fun torn into it. But I wonder, I imagine that the movie itself would not materially be any different. No. And all we could make fun of is like weird eye lines and stuff. And that doesn't. That's not fun.

Yeah. Not for us, not for anyone. So the only things I, like I, you know, I talk a big game about Star Wars or whatever. But you'd see most of it. No, I'd see most of that stuff anyway. Like even if it's not for me, I'm like, oh, I like the scene with the whatever.

But something like Sonic, I'm like, it's competent, isn't it? Yeah. I think for me that a lot of it is, if this wasn't my job now, I just wouldn't have the time to see stuff. Like if I was teaching five days a week and had a kid, another kid on the way, I'm not seeing a movie every week. It's just not. Or watching a TV show or some of a a TV show. Sure, sure, sure.

A week. So that's what's different for me. I mean, you'd make time for Sonic, obviously. I would never make time. Well, I wouldn't have been able to see it on like a Thursday morning or whatever. It's true, yeah. I'd do it when I'm a kid to see it.

That's the greatest thing in the world. Or you could be a bad teacher. I love being a bad teacher. Right? Yeah, how good was I at it? So good. You'd just be slunk under your desk with your sunglasses on because you're hungover.

Yeah. You know? Even if I'm not hungover, I just tell them I'm hungover so they leave me alone. No, actually, that's one thing I've never done. You'd be like, do some coloring and they'd be like, we're 17 years old. And you'd be like, I don't care. And you're in the wrong school because you're a primary school teacher. I never did a day hungover teaching.

There you go. Because if you've done teaching like- Because if you're always drunk, you never get hungover. But it's one of those jobs where you cannot muddle your way through it. Yeah, right. Like if they see that you're weak, they will tear through you.

That's not true. But depending on the kids. But yeah, you can't do it hungover. It's hard to do if you're like a little bit sick. It's fucking unbearable. Which reminds me, I should catch up on AP Bio. Did you watch any of that?

I couldn't. I can't get past the bad teacher stuff. that? I couldn't, I can't get past the bad teacher stuff. Yeah, I couldn't, I don't know, I feel like it's... Is that just me having been a teacher

or do you find that as well? No, well, I found it was just... Because it is funny. There's like funny stuff. Yeah, there was funny stuff in it but I just never found it compelling but I mean,

it's been going for three seasons or something and I like Glenn Houghton and I like Patton Oswalt. Yeah, exactly. I should come back to that. Yeah, I should give that a whirl again. Yeah.

But not today. And never. That's right. Yeah, I should give that a whirl again. Yeah. But not today. And never. That's right. And that, I believe, is time for another letter. No, James, no. You didn't let me finish. Yes. It's time for another letter for people to send in at home to get ready for next week's episode.

Weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com. You're absolutely right, James. That's it. You're always on the ball. Have you got another letter? No. I'm waiting for it to be sent in. Let's bring us home then.

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Every person in the world has come up to me today specifically to say hello. Wow. Even not listening. Appreciate everybody. A couple of people sent some tweets this week. They've been representing in the outside world. Oh, my goodness. With their Weekly Planet pod t-shirts.

Betty V is out at PAX this week. I think it's PAX East. Wearing a Weekly Planet hoodie, it looks like. That's what I want to see. And someone else. I'm going to find him. I'm going to find him, Jan. Don't even worry about it.

I wasn't worried at all. It's someone they've got. It's Chris, who has taken a lovely couple of photos on the Jay and Silent Bob Reboot Roadshow with Kevin Smith. It's looking great. I might put those up on the gram, actually. Speaking of which, you can stream it here. I bought it, Jay and Silent Bob. Oh, yeah? I liked it. Cool. I might put those up on the gram, actually. I, you can stream it here. I bought it, Jansala Bob.

Oh, yeah. I liked it. Cool. I liked it better than the first Jansala Bob, which I didn't really like. Yeah, that was bad. It's got some, yeah. I mean, it's very kind of in-universe jokes or whatever, but I think there's a lot of kind of, there's some decent jokes

and there's some heart to it, and there's a moment where Kevin Smith does the Glenn Gary, Glenn Ross speech to a bunch of clan members okay and it's just for some reason it was just very funny to me all right yeah okay i'll watch it this week then that sounds really good i think if if you don't know anything about this universe doesn't matter no you're not gonna like it but there's some interesting cameos like because you probably heard this but ben affleck makes an appearance yeah right there's a few others that you might not expect it's just i i liked. I just thought it was like a fun movie.

Cool. Yeah. That's great. Yeah. Kevin Smith is holding a piece of paper that says, grab that chance. Oh, yeah, sorry. That's what, you didn't get to say that.

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Next week, a topic. Next week, a topic. And the week after that, I think it's like Quiet Place, and then another thing, and then Black Widow, and another thing, and forever and so forth. Maybe there's a Pixar movie in there somewhere. Oh. The elf one?

Yeah. Nice. My dad's just legs. Apparently, it's good. All right, then. His dad's not just legs. They're family or something, I guess. I haven't seen

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