The Weekly Planet - 33 Best & Worst X-Men Films
Episode Date: May 12, 2014This week Mason and James discuss the spate of recently greenlit comic book TV series, the return of the Power Rangers, Spider-man underperforming and the best and worst X-Men films. Hosted on Acast. ...See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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                                         FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London.
                                         
                                         One woman has a secret.
                                         
                                         The other, a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost.
                                         
                                         FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+. Welcome back everyone to another episode of the Weekly Planet,
                                         
                                         official podcast of ComicBookMovie.com.
                                         
                                         My name is James, junior editor of that website.
                                         
                                         You might also know me as Mr. Sunday.
                                         
                                         With me as always
                                         
    
                                         is my co-host,
                                         
                                         Nick Mason.
                                         
                                         Whoa, oh, oh, oh,
                                         
                                         the longest
                                         
                                         for the longest time.
                                         
                                         That's the reference
                                         
                                         to something that happened
                                         
                                         before we started.
                                         
    
                                         Yes, it did.
                                         
                                         How are you?
                                         
                                         I'm doing all right.
                                         
                                         Having a good week?
                                         
                                         Yeah, standard week stuff.
                                         
                                         I feel like we haven't
                                         
                                         done this in a while,
                                         
                                         but it's only been a week.
                                         
    
                                         I know, right?
                                         
                                         YouTube's back for you.
                                         
                                         It is. Well, not back. I made a new one't done this in a while, but it's only been a week, hasn't it? I know, right? YouTube's back for you. It is.
                                         
                                         Well, not back.
                                         
                                         I made a new one.
                                         
                                         YouTube.com slash MrSundayMoviesMason.
                                         
                                         Check it out.
                                         
                                         Everybody, so many people have jumped back on board.
                                         
    
                                         It's amazing.
                                         
                                         I only put it up yesterday.
                                         
                                         As of now, it's been 24 hours.
                                         
                                         I've got like 600 odd subscribers or something, or close to.
                                         
                                         It's amazing because it took me many, many years to get that initially.
                                         
                                         And now, I feel like I haven't earned it.
                                         
                                         Well, you used to be boring.
                                         
                                         You used to be like a real boring guy.
                                         
    
                                         So that's probably it.
                                         
                                         Now I'm all jazzed.
                                         
                                         It was just you pointing your webcam at various things in your apartment.
                                         
                                         Just like, look, it's a plant on a ledge.
                                         
                                         There are literally millions of YouTube videos like that.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Absolutely.
                                         
                                         Yeah, so I just want to say thank you to everybody who supported through this whole thing or whatever.
                                         
    
                                         I mean, the old one might come back. It could very well. But I just wanted to say thank you to everybody who supported, you know, through this whole thing or whatever. I mean, the old one might come back.
                                         
                                         It could very well.
                                         
                                         But I just wanted to also say, Mason, I'm not sure if I'm going to be doing movie news videos every week.
                                         
                                         Because I feel like we do that here as well.
                                         
                                         That's true, we do.
                                         
                                         So I'll still do a Sunday video, but I'll do like a different thing.
                                         
                                         And oftentimes we'll do this, right?
                                         
                                         And I'll go, he's got some sweet witticisms about that movie news that just happened.
                                         
    
                                         And then I'll go and I'll watch the video you did and I'll notice you just recycled what you did in your video.
                                         
                                         I'm like, you son of a bitch.
                                         
                                         I thought we were having a genuine conversation.
                                         
                                         You pre-recorded your whole life.
                                         
                                         Often though, I get the witticisms from this conversation.
                                         
                                         Sometimes they just steal things that you say.
                                         
                                         Fair enough.
                                         
                                         That's okay.
                                         
    
                                         I don't remember anything I say, so it doesn't matter.
                                         
                                         I've said that often that people will tweet at me yeah with a phrase yeah yeah and they're like that that was so funny and i'm like was that me or is that just something you heard
                                         
                                         on the street i don't i don't remember thank you though thank you for you'll never know yeah
                                         
                                         mason yes uh i'm here i know yes dec Declan McCarthy actually wrote in
                                         
                                         With a
                                         
                                         Not a theme song
                                         
                                         But like a series of clips
                                         
                                         That he's added together
                                         
    
                                         As like a precursor to
                                         
                                         The um
                                         
                                         The new segment
                                         
                                         Which we're about to launch into
                                         
                                         Oh
                                         
                                         Right
                                         
                                         Have I been warned about this segment?
                                         
                                         No
                                         
    
                                         Great
                                         
                                         I mean the new segment
                                         
                                         We do it every week
                                         
                                         Oh the news
                                         
                                         I thought you said a new segment
                                         
                                         Wow
                                         
                                         It's new every week
                                         
                                         Because the information is new
                                         
    
                                         That's true yeah
                                         
                                         Do you want to hear it?
                                         
                                         Yeah I shouldn't ask I'm you want to hear it? Yeah.
                                         
                                         I shouldn't ask.
                                         
                                         I'm just going to do it.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Right.
                                         
                                         Should we get straight
                                         
    
                                         into the news?
                                         
                                         I'd love to get into the news.
                                         
                                         Do you want me to kick it off
                                         
                                         or do you want me to kick it off?
                                         
                                         Yeah, kick it off, mate.
                                         
                                         Sure.
                                         
                                         Do we want to talk about
                                         
                                         Shia LaBeouf ever again?
                                         
    
                                         No, let's put a moratorium on him.
                                         
                                         I worked out like a mad dog
                                         
                                         for this role.
                                         
                                         Absolutely, you did.
                                         
                                         We're going to release
                                         
                                         more news.
                                         
                                         Rumours.
                                         
                                         I understand you don't want
                                         
    
                                         to talk about YouTube.
                                         
                                         Forget about it.
                                         
                                         New York style.
                                         
                                         The best movie ever or the worst movie ever?
                                         
                                         No middle ground.
                                         
                                         Wow.
                                         
                                         Controversial.
                                         
                                         An inside source.
                                         
    
                                         He's gonna get fired.
                                         
                                         I said no more Shia LaBeouf news.
                                         
                                         Oh my god!
                                         
                                         Very brief Shia LaBeouf news.
                                         
                                         Why?
                                         
                                         I don't know.
                                         
                                         Hashtag eat dem eggs.
                                         
                                         How do you like that?
                                         
    
                                         Well that was great.
                                         
                                         How do you like that?
                                         
                                         Well, that was great.
                                         
                                         We've been turned into like a pair of morning radio jocks.
                                         
                                         It does sound like that, doesn't it?
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah. Well, look, to be honest, we probably won't use a theme
                                         
                                         because we go theme song straight away
                                         
                                         and then straight into another theme song.
                                         
    
                                         And that would also confuse people.
                                         
                                         That would confuse people, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         Is there Shia LaBeouf news?
                                         
                                         That's great, though.
                                         
                                         I know, right?
                                         
                                         I do Eclipse package
                                         
                                         that's super good
                                         
                                         yeah yeah
                                         
    
                                         it also demonstrates
                                         
                                         our varying audio quality
                                         
                                         have you noticed
                                         
                                         that's true
                                         
                                         that's true as well
                                         
                                         ebbs and flows you know
                                         
                                         but yeah
                                         
                                         Declan's gone through
                                         
    
                                         a bit of a rough patch
                                         
                                         at the moment as well
                                         
                                         so I hope he's doing alright
                                         
                                         absolutely
                                         
                                         he's doing better
                                         
                                         fantastic
                                         
                                         he likes the show
                                         
                                         yeah
                                         
    
                                         I don't know if he said loved
                                         
                                         he said likes
                                         
                                         maybe he said tolerates
                                         
                                         he has to listen to it
                                         
                                         as some sort of prison experiment.
                                         
                                         Yes, that's right.
                                         
                                         Oh, speaking about that,
                                         
                                         can I just say something?
                                         
    
                                         About prisons?
                                         
                                         Yeah, well,
                                         
                                         here's the thing.
                                         
                                         You know how I enjoy
                                         
                                         incongruous DVD box sets?
                                         
                                         Oh, yeah.
                                         
                                         And I ask listeners
                                         
                                         to send something in
                                         
    
                                         if they see one
                                         
                                         in a video store
                                         
                                         or something like that.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Well, I got two.
                                         
                                         Nice, what have you got?
                                         
                                         They're great.
                                         
                                         Okay, the first one
                                         
    
                                         from Andrew Richardson. It's pretty good. It's Die four oh yeah free or die hard right backed with x-men
                                         
                                         origins wolverine which i think is a good combination because it's just like hey assholes
                                         
                                         you like shooting well you're like stabbing too i guess stick that in your face right so that one's
                                         
                                         pretty great right i enjoyed that one but in any other week that
                                         
                                         would have won because that's great yeah however a friend of the show aaron mitten ah i love him
                                         
                                         he's back he has sent us one it's a it's a triple pack yeah right and it's in too deep which is like
                                         
                                         a crime film from 1999 with ll cool j is like a mob boss that sounds really good which is really
                                         
                                         good right followed by attica which is a movie from the 80s.
                                         
    
                                         It's got Morgan Freeman in it.
                                         
                                         Right.
                                         
                                         And it's like about the Attica prison riot from the 70s.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         So they kind of went in this sort of crime, but it's not really.
                                         
                                         And you're like, is this just, have they just put movies with famous black people together?
                                         
                                         That's what I think.
                                         
                                         Like low budget.
                                         
    
                                         Right.
                                         
                                         And that's what you'd think if you're working down these really slowly.
                                         
                                         But then you get to number three, which is Halloween H20.
                                         
                                         20 years later.
                                         
                                         That's even the one where I think Exhibit kicks Mike Myers to death or something.
                                         
                                         Oh, maybe that's the connection.
                                         
                                         No, no, it's a different one.
                                         
                                         That's a different H20.
                                         
    
                                         It might be Exhibit or Flo Rida or someone.
                                         
                                         I don't know.
                                         
                                         Maybe they've thought that In Too Deep was Deep Blue Sea.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         The LL Cool J killer shark movie.
                                         
                                         And maybe they thought Morgan Freeman is Samuel L. Jackson,
                                         
                                         who gets eaten by a shark.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         Or they thought Morgan Freeman was the Saw killer.
                                         
                                         Sure.
                                         
                                         That's probably it.
                                         
                                         What a combination.
                                         
                                         Anyway, thank you, listeners.
                                         
                                         Amazing.
                                         
                                         Send any more if you've got them.
                                         
                                         Funny you mentioned that.
                                         
    
                                         S. Potter wrote it and said that he found one that has
                                         
                                         L.A. Complex, the complete series,
                                         
                                         Hitler, Rise of an Empire, and One Direction all for one,
                                         
                                         but he doesn't have a picture.
                                         
                                         Well.
                                         
                                         Did it happen, Mason?
                                         
                                         Did it happen? I don't know.
                                         
                                         It's a tree falling in the woods scenario.
                                         
    
                                         I'm going to take it on faith that it did happen,
                                         
                                         but I would like to see.
                                         
                                         Surely somebody else has seen that one.
                                         
                                         I hope so.
                                         
                                         Anyway, enough of my nonsense.
                                         
                                         Enough of my self-indulgence.
                                         
                                         There'll be more of that seconds from now.
                                         
                                         Yeah, great.
                                         
    
                                         Are you familiar with the new Star Wars cast?
                                         
                                         Probably.
                                         
                                         We talked about it.
                                         
                                         We did talk about it last year.
                                         
                                         You know Max von Sydow?
                                         
                                         I do know him, yeah.
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         They're saying that his character will be the villain,
                                         
    
                                         and he'll be what's referred to as the Ancient Fear,
                                         
                                         which is the subtitle, they say, rumoured to be for the new Star Wars.
                                         
                                         That was a good sentence.
                                         
                                         I feel like I have not done this in a while,
                                         
                                         which isn't the case,
                                         
                                         but I really struggled through that.
                                         
                                         So he's The Ancient Fear.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         Is that...
                                         
                                         So it's Star Wars Episode VII, The Ancient Fear.
                                         
                                         The Ancient Fear, and he is The Ancient Fear.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         So is this,
                                         
                                         because they've destroyed the canon now,
                                         
                                         like none of the expanded universe stuff is canon anymore. Is The Ancient Fear, is that... Because they've destroyed the canon now, like none of the Expanded Universe
                                         
    
                                         stuff is canon anymore.
                                         
                                         Is the Ancient Fury, is that, because they're sort of picking and choosing, is that anything
                                         
                                         from the Expanded Universe?
                                         
                                         Is there anything you can think of?
                                         
                                         Ah, not off the top of my head, no.
                                         
                                         I mean, there could be a lot of things.
                                         
                                         There's always like a Sith ghost or a...
                                         
                                         There is always a Sith ghost.
                                         
    
                                         There's like a, there's always, you know, legendary Sith magician, wizard magician types.
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         Well, there's a guy in, I can't remember what he's in, but he magician types. Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         Well, there's a guy, and I can't remember what he's in,
                                         
                                         but he's in that Thrawn trilogy.
                                         
                                         He's a cloned Jedi.
                                         
                                         I can't remember what his name is,
                                         
                                         but he's like a bearded old man who's this crazy Jedi.
                                         
    
                                         Could be him.
                                         
                                         Just could be just a Sith ghost, which it probably is.
                                         
                                         My ancient fear is that I've left the iron on after I've left the house.
                                         
                                         Sure.
                                         
                                         Yeah, had it up for ages.
                                         
                                         Have you?
                                         
                                         Yeah. Like right now? Right now. As long as you sit it up I've left the house. Sure. Yeah. Had it up for ages. Have you? Yeah.
                                         
                                         Like right now?
                                         
    
                                         Right now.
                                         
                                         As long as you sit it up, you'll be fine.
                                         
                                         There you go.
                                         
                                         I've solved your ancient fear.
                                         
                                         That's a relief.
                                         
                                         I hope it can be solved as easily in Star Wars Episode VII, The Ancient Fear.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         You know, there was a number of TV showdowns for this week's place and Community was cancelled,
                                         
    
                                         as I'm sure you heard.
                                         
                                         A bunch of other crap.
                                         
                                         You know what I heard?
                                         
                                         I heard it on Twitter
                                         
                                         Because a lot of people
                                         
                                         Said RIP community
                                         
                                         Yeah
                                         
                                         And I didn't
                                         
    
                                         I couldn't be bothered
                                         
                                         Looking it up
                                         
                                         So
                                         
                                         I didn't watch
                                         
                                         I understand the last
                                         
                                         Couple of series improved
                                         
                                         The last one was good
                                         
                                         The one before
                                         
    
                                         That was the one that
                                         
                                         No Dan Harmon
                                         
                                         Yeah Dan Harmon didn't do
                                         
                                         Which is not that
                                         
                                         It's okay
                                         
                                         It's completely serviceable
                                         
                                         So did they make
                                         
                                         The legendary six seasons
                                         
    
                                         In a movie
                                         
                                         They made five seasons.
                                         
                                         But it could be gone to Netflix or whatever.
                                         
                                         It could be gone to Netflix, you're right.
                                         
                                         There you go.
                                         
                                         But Mason, you'll be happy to know that Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. was renewed.
                                         
                                         How about if they make that one season of Firefly count as the sixth season of Community?
                                         
                                         And then Serenity is the movie.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, I think that would be good.
                                         
                                         Absolutely.
                                         
                                         Okay, good.
                                         
                                         Sure.
                                         
                                         Done.
                                         
                                         Yeah, S.H.I.E.L.D. was renewed.
                                         
                                         Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
                                         
                                         The cinematic universe is so strong. That's true, yeah. They'd be fools to cancel it, Mason. There we go. Okay, good. Sure. Done. Yeah, S.H.I.E.L.D. was renewed. Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
                                         
    
                                         The cinematic universe is so strong.
                                         
                                         That's true, yeah. They'd be fools to cancel it, mate.
                                         
                                         Fools.
                                         
                                         Especially because it has gotten a lot better.
                                         
                                         Agent Carter has been ordered.
                                         
                                         Okay, great.
                                         
                                         Set in 1946.
                                         
                                         So that's a series run.
                                         
    
                                         They're going to do the full thing.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         And the idea is that she works for an agency or whatever, and all the men have come back
                                         
                                         from war, so she's kind of being pushed to the side.
                                         
                                         But she does a whole lot of secret missions for Howard Stark.
                                         
                                         So you know
                                         
                                         that sounds pretty good.
                                         
                                         I think they mentioned
                                         
    
                                         in Captain America 2
                                         
                                         that she ends up getting married
                                         
                                         so maybe there'll be
                                         
                                         a love interest or whatever.
                                         
                                         Okay so two questions.
                                         
                                         With the agent cut
                                         
                                         does that mean
                                         
                                         there is a pilot leaked
                                         
    
                                         somewhere on the internet?
                                         
                                         Can we find that yet?
                                         
                                         Not at the moment.
                                         
                                         That's a shame.
                                         
                                         Okay and two
                                         
                                         season two of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
                                         
                                         are there Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
                                         
                                         action figures yet
                                         
    
                                         can I get an Agent Coulson
                                         
                                         because he's all over the place
                                         
                                         he's in
                                         
                                         he's in the movies
                                         
                                         he's in the TV series
                                         
                                         he's in the comic books now
                                         
                                         though he wasn't in any
                                         
                                         of the phase three movies
                                         
    
                                         well they all think he's dead
                                         
                                         anyway
                                         
                                         yeah that's true
                                         
                                         and he's in the Spider-Man
                                         
                                         he's in one of the
                                         
                                         Spider-Man cartoons
                                         
                                         he is yeah yeah
                                         
                                         series as the headmaster
                                         
    
                                         or something
                                         
                                         or the principal
                                         
                                         something like that yeah
                                         
                                         yeah so where's the action figure
                                         
                                         where's Principal Coulson
                                         
                                         action figure
                                         
                                         there probably is one for the Spider-Man series actually yeah okay you know but no or the principal? Something like that, yeah. Yeah, so where's the action figure? Where's Principal Coulson, action figure?
                                         
                                         There probably is one for the Spider-Man series, actually.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, okay.
                                         
                                         You know.
                                         
                                         But no, I'm sorry.
                                         
                                         Yeah, thank you.
                                         
                                         You're forgiven.
                                         
                                         Thank you.
                                         
                                         I, Zombie was greenlit.
                                         
                                         I haven't read that.
                                         
    
                                         You read any of that?
                                         
                                         No.
                                         
                                         Me neither.
                                         
                                         The Flash was greenlit,
                                         
                                         no surprise there.
                                         
                                         Okay, yeah.
                                         
                                         Constantine was picked up,
                                         
                                         no surprise there.
                                         
    
                                         By any...
                                         
                                         I think the same people
                                         
                                         who do Gotham.
                                         
                                         Oh, okay.
                                         
                                         NBC?
                                         
                                         I don't know.
                                         
                                         We should check.
                                         
                                         Nah, Fox.
                                         
    
                                         I think it's Fox.
                                         
                                         It is Fox, you're right.
                                         
                                         And also, I don't really remember this, because I watched it earlier this week, but there
                                         
                                         was a Gotham trailer for the Gotham TV series.
                                         
                                         You watched it, right?
                                         
                                         I watched it, yeah.
                                         
                                         What did you think of that?
                                         
                                         Well, we saw the...
                                         
    
                                         Penguano?
                                         
                                         We saw Penguano.
                                         
                                         of that? Well, we saw the... Penguano? We saw
                                         
                                         Penguano. We saw that
                                         
                                         you know, we saw the on-set photos
                                         
                                         you know, a couple of months back of him
                                         
                                         of Ben McKenzie's sans mustache.
                                         
                                         Was that that month that we harassed
                                         
    
                                         Ben McKenzie? Yeah, with hashtag McKenzie mustache.
                                         
                                         Yes. Thank you to
                                         
                                         everybody for doing that for us, by the way.
                                         
                                         And it was the
                                         
                                         rooftop chase. He's chasing
                                         
                                         somebody and we sort of see where that's leading. Yeah, chase. He's chasing somebody and we sort of see where that's leading.
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         He's chasing a guy.
                                         
    
                                         He is.
                                         
                                         He's chasing a guy who's like, there's got to be trouble for Gotham.
                                         
                                         It was a little bit Men in Black.
                                         
                                         It was.
                                         
                                         Opening scene of Men in Black.
                                         
                                         Where he's like confused.
                                         
                                         Yeah, exactly.
                                         
                                         Like ominous things, but he doesn't know what's up.
                                         
    
                                         No, but he chases the guy across the roof.
                                         
                                         Oh, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         Yeah, fair point.
                                         
                                         And we see some... It's interesting that
                                         
                                         we're seeing the people
                                         
                                         who will become
                                         
                                         Batman's nemeses.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         But they're older than him.
                                         
                                         Like, have you ever
                                         
                                         thought of the Riddler
                                         
                                         being older than Batman?
                                         
                                         No, actually, I haven't.
                                         
                                         Penguin I can see
                                         
                                         is older than Batman.
                                         
                                         Yeah, absolutely.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         That's very interesting.
                                         
                                         No black mask.
                                         
                                         I assumed there would
                                         
                                         have been a black mask.
                                         
                                         Well, you can't introduce
                                         
                                         everything at once.
                                         
                                         They've got Fishmooney, Jada Pinkett Smith.
                                         
    
                                         That's the main villain.
                                         
                                         Great.
                                         
                                         So that's good.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Fishmooney.
                                         
                                         That classic Batman villain.
                                         
                                         Fishmooney.
                                         
                                         But the showrunner, Bruno Heller, says that we will see the Joker or pre-Joker Joker.
                                         
    
                                         So I'm assuming leader of the Red Hood gang or it could be when he's the comedian.
                                         
                                         There's a bunch of Joker origins.
                                         
                                         See, I was just wondering about that
                                         
                                         because we don't see him in the trailer.
                                         
                                         No.
                                         
                                         I think that's fraught with peril.
                                         
                                         To not have him in the trailer?
                                         
                                         No, I think it's fraught with peril to put him in the series.
                                         
    
                                         I agree.
                                         
                                         Because, I would like to hear your thoughts on it,
                                         
                                         but first my thoughts.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         I don't think the Joker works if he has a definitive origin.
                                         
                                         Agreed.
                                         
                                         I'd much prefer the idea
                                         
                                         that he is so,
                                         
    
                                         like that he doesn't,
                                         
                                         that every time he tells,
                                         
                                         like in the killing joke,
                                         
                                         every time he tells his origin
                                         
                                         it's different.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Either because
                                         
                                         it amuses him to do that
                                         
    
                                         or because he's so insane
                                         
                                         that he can't remember
                                         
                                         where he came from.
                                         
                                         And to actually see his origin,
                                         
                                         it takes a lot of the magic
                                         
                                         out of it, I think.
                                         
                                         I completely agree. It's a Wolverine origin situation
                                         
                                         you know what I mean
                                         
    
                                         I do
                                         
                                         I do know what you mean
                                         
                                         yeah that's exactly
                                         
                                         what I was going to say
                                         
                                         you took all those words
                                         
                                         out of my mouth
                                         
                                         I would have said them
                                         
                                         much better
                                         
    
                                         why don't you put them
                                         
                                         in one of your bloody
                                         
                                         news video posts then
                                         
                                         do that hey
                                         
                                         you son of a bitch
                                         
                                         yeah alright
                                         
                                         so yeah that's pretty good
                                         
                                         also I think it was
                                         
    
                                         the producer of the show said it's going to look better than the Dark Knight movies.
                                         
                                         Really?
                                         
                                         Yep.
                                         
                                         It's bold.
                                         
                                         That is very bold.
                                         
                                         Yeah, okay.
                                         
                                         So yeah, there you go.
                                         
                                         I think it was the producer or somebody involved in it.
                                         
    
                                         Should do more research.
                                         
                                         I think what they mean is one of the sets.
                                         
                                         Like all the sets are going to be in one of the school buses from the opening scene.
                                         
                                         Okay, right.
                                         
                                         They bought one of the school buses.
                                         
                                         I'm just imagining dark alleys,
                                         
                                         usually the same alley with different trash cans,
                                         
                                         and just, like, smoke.
                                         
    
                                         Like, that's what I'm picturing.
                                         
                                         PG graffiti.
                                         
                                         I think I've mentioned my love of PG graffiti.
                                         
                                         Oh, yeah.
                                         
                                         You suck.
                                         
                                         I like rap.
                                         
                                         You know, some of that.
                                         
                                         Who doesn't?
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Okay, now, you may have heard also, Mason, this week,
                                         
                                         that Lionsgate and Saban Brands have...
                                         
                                         Is this a Mighty Morphin Power Rangers thing?
                                         
                                         You better believe it is.
                                         
                                         Yay!
                                         
                                         Did you hear this?
                                         
                                         Yeah, I did, yeah.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, so they're making a live-action Power Rangers movie.
                                         
                                         Another one.
                                         
                                         There was one in, I think, 95.
                                         
                                         There's been a couple, I think.
                                         
                                         And there was one in 97, I think.
                                         
                                         There was Power Rangers Sump Regular.
                                         
                                         That's what it was called.
                                         
                                         Original recipe.
                                         
    
                                         Power Rangers Sump Regular.
                                         
                                         Power Rangers Original Recipe.
                                         
                                         Power Rangers Turbo.
                                         
                                         And there was Turbo a Power Rangers movie
                                         
                                         there we go
                                         
                                         okay yeah yeah
                                         
                                         I am
                                         
                                         for me that came
                                         
    
                                         for me
                                         
                                         when I was a little bit older
                                         
                                         I was still young
                                         
                                         but I was off the back
                                         
                                         of like Ninja Turtle
                                         
                                         so I was kind of like
                                         
                                         I'm over all this
                                         
                                         karate nonsense
                                         
    
                                         yeah yeah
                                         
                                         I'm clearly not now
                                         
                                         no
                                         
                                         we're right back in
                                         
                                         but uh
                                         
                                         I like Power Rangers
                                         
                                         good at it
                                         
                                         whatever
                                         
    
                                         it will be interesting
                                         
                                         to see if they
                                         
                                         are they gonna
                                         
                                         actually make
                                         
                                         new
                                         
                                         mech battle sequences
                                         
                                         like
                                         
                                         or are they just gonna
                                         
    
                                         find a slightly
                                         
                                         bigger budget
                                         
                                         you know
                                         
                                         mech
                                         
                                         Japanese
                                         
                                         film
                                         
                                         and just
                                         
                                         steal those again
                                         
    
                                         I'd be very surprised
                                         
                                         the old series were just
                                         
                                         they just refilmed
                                         
                                         all the
                                         
                                         high school stuff
                                         
                                         and used the
                                         
                                         footage and spliced it in
                                         
                                         but because it's Lionsgate
                                         
    
                                         who do like Hunger Games
                                         
                                         and Twilight and all that
                                         
                                         I'm assuming they'll put
                                         
                                         a lot of money behind it
                                         
                                         people love giant monsters
                                         
                                         and mechs and shit man
                                         
                                         people are into it
                                         
                                         yeah
                                         
    
                                         you're a fool
                                         
                                         to think otherwise
                                         
                                         yeah
                                         
                                         alright
                                         
                                         I remember the time right
                                         
                                         I remember when
                                         
                                         Power Rangers came out
                                         
                                         I looked in the TV guide
                                         
    
                                         as I do every week and be like what's on this week or whatever and it was like 4 o'clock and it was like a new show I remember when Power Rangers came out I looked in the TV guide as I do every week
                                         
                                         and be like what's on this week or whatever
                                         
                                         and it was like 4 o'clock and it was like a new show
                                         
                                         Mighty Morphin Power Rangers
                                         
                                         and I was like what is that? That's a ridiculous name
                                         
                                         I'll check it out
                                         
                                         and I watched it and I'm like okay this is interesting
                                         
                                         this looks a lot like Voltron
                                         
    
                                         because I was a big fan of Voltron
                                         
                                         as you probably don't know
                                         
                                         you remember how big a fan I was?
                                         
                                         I remember your Volt remember how big a fan I was? Sure. And then as it progressed...
                                         
                                         I remember your Voltron jammy jams.
                                         
                                         One lion, each arm and leg.
                                         
                                         And then when they all got their own robots,
                                         
                                         I'm like, wait a minute.
                                         
    
                                         And then they formed together to make a big guy.
                                         
                                         And I got super angry.
                                         
                                         And then they pulled out the sword.
                                         
                                         And I just couldn't believe it.
                                         
                                         I was like, this is outrageous.
                                         
                                         Little did we know at the time that that is every...
                                         
                                         Every Japanese...
                                         
                                         Every, like...
                                         
    
                                         I know.
                                         
                                         Southeast Asian kind of action film for...
                                         
                                         Action show for children is just people getting into robots
                                         
                                         to combine into a bigger robot.
                                         
                                         There's dozens.
                                         
                                         If there was a hundred, I would not be surprised.
                                         
                                         No.
                                         
                                         I completely agree.
                                         
    
                                         So, yeah, now I know.
                                         
                                         How did they get away with it?
                                         
                                         Nobody patented it in the first place.
                                         
                                         That's a good point, yeah.
                                         
                                         Also, we've got a lot of cop shows.
                                         
                                         Yeah, we do have a lot of cop shows.
                                         
                                         Gotham.
                                         
                                         We've got a lot of good Australian cop shows, don't we?
                                         
    
                                         No.
                                         
                                         You're right, we have none.
                                         
                                         Correct.
                                         
                                         No, we don't have any.
                                         
                                         There's never been one.
                                         
                                         Well, we don't have police.
                                         
                                         Oh yeah, that's right.
                                         
                                         Mad Max is an accurate representation of Australian justice.
                                         
    
                                         There's nothing to base it on. Somebody steal your petrol, you shoot them. That's right. Mad Max is an accurate representation of Australian justice. There's nothing to base it on.
                                         
                                         If somebody steals your petrol, you shoot them.
                                         
                                         That's right.
                                         
                                         You leave them in the desert.
                                         
                                         Oh, Mason.
                                         
                                         Now we watched The Amazing Spider-Man 2.
                                         
                                         Hang on, did I have another thought about Mighty Morphin Power Rangers?
                                         
                                         You loved it.
                                         
    
                                         No.
                                         
                                         You loved the weird big suits.
                                         
                                         No.
                                         
                                         Why hasn't there been a Voltron movie yet?
                                         
                                         Yeah, that's a good question.
                                         
                                         Why are they bringing back Mighty Morphin Power Rangers?
                                         
                                         I meant to bring that up.
                                         
                                         This is going to kill the Voltron movie if this goes forward.
                                         
    
                                         You get in first and all of a sudden that's what people...
                                         
                                         Or will it, though?
                                         
                                         Well, it depends how well it does, I guess.
                                         
                                         And how shabby it looks.
                                         
                                         It's going to look shabby.
                                         
                                         I don't know, because it's Lionsgate.
                                         
                                         If it was a smaller company, I would agree.
                                         
                                         If it was the Asylum who produced Sharknado.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, exactly.
                                         
                                         I think it'll be alright.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         Or not.
                                         
                                         Will live? Yeah. exactly. I think it'll be alright. Okay. Or not. Will live?
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Good.
                                         
                                         The Amazing Spider-
                                         
    
                                         I think there might be a speed race kind of situation where I don't see it and it doesn't
                                         
                                         affect my life at all.
                                         
                                         Did you ever see Speed Racer?
                                         
                                         No, I didn't and it didn't affect my life at all.
                                         
                                         I wonder if he won that race.
                                         
                                         I'm going to say yeah.
                                         
                                         Good.
                                         
                                         Now we don't have to see it.
                                         
    
                                         Great.
                                         
                                         The Amazing Spider-Man 2, Mason.
                                         
                                         It made $92 million in the US last weekend,
                                         
                                         which is a lot of cash dollars, sure.
                                         
                                         But that's fallen well short of what they wanted.
                                         
                                         That's the fourth highest opening for a Spider-Man movie.
                                         
                                         I think Spider-Man 3 opened with $150 million.
                                         
                                         And the last one opened a little bit less.
                                         
    
                                         And they were hoping for something like $120, I'd imagine.
                                         
                                         Little do you know, Mason.
                                         
                                         If somebody handed you
                                         
                                         $92 million
                                         
                                         and then said
                                         
                                         but I could have handed you
                                         
                                         $150 million
                                         
                                         would you be upset?
                                         
    
                                         No.
                                         
                                         I would be
                                         
                                         I guess.
                                         
                                         We're just simple men, aren't we?
                                         
                                         With simple pleasures, you know?
                                         
                                         Simple dreams.
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         So, the interesting thing is though
                                         
    
                                         this could be like
                                         
                                         the law of diminishing returns
                                         
                                         for Spider-Man movies
                                         
                                         from now on.
                                         
                                         Right.
                                         
                                         I think people are sick
                                         
                                         of Spider-Man movies.
                                         
                                         We were okay with that movie, right?
                                         
    
                                         It was fine.
                                         
                                         Yeah, it's fine.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         But I think, I mean, because I've been speaking to people who are not a fan of, you know,
                                         
                                         comic book movies or whatever.
                                         
                                         Uh-huh.
                                         
                                         I'm like, did you see Captain America?
                                         
                                         And they're like, I saw Captain America, I loved it, didn't expect it or whatever.
                                         
    
                                         And I said, you know, do you see Spider-Man?
                                         
                                         And they're like, no, because that's all I've seen.
                                         
                                         Right, exactly, yeah.
                                         
                                         So that's the problem right there.
                                         
                                         And now they've taken this stance of no Miles Morales and whatever.
                                         
                                         I mean, Sinister Six is an interesting concept that they'll go into, but if nobody sees
                                         
                                         Spider-Man 3, nobody's going to...
                                         
                                         Exactly, yeah.
                                         
    
                                         Not that nobody's going to see it, but do you know what I mean?
                                         
                                         No, you're putting your foot down and saying literally nobody's going to see it.
                                         
                                         So yeah, I guess it's interesting, right?
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         But anyway, on the back of that though, Mason,
                                         
                                         X-Men Days of Future Past is tracking for $125 million opening weekend.
                                         
                                         That's coming in like two weeks, right?
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         Though we're seeing it on Friday.
                                         
                                         We're going to the premiere.
                                         
                                         Oh, yeah, cool.
                                         
                                         Remember I bought tickets cash tickets
                                         
                                         with that 92 million
                                         
                                         great
                                         
                                         but yeah so
                                         
                                         we might
                                         
    
                                         you should remind me about that again
                                         
                                         because I'll probably forget
                                         
                                         okay cool
                                         
                                         I might have scheduled something on Friday
                                         
                                         I'll let me get out of that
                                         
                                         sure no worries
                                         
                                         which would be the biggest debut for the franchise
                                         
                                         I'm just texting
                                         
    
                                         sorry I can't make it
                                         
                                         to your dad's funeral
                                         
                                         Wolverine okay cool we're sorted I'm just texting, sorry I can't make it to your dad's funeral.
                                         
                                         Wolverine.
                                         
                                         Okay, cool, we're sorted.
                                         
                                         FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies
                                         
                                         on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London.
                                         
                                         One woman has a secret, the other a mission to reveal it
                                         
    
                                         before thousands of lives are lost.
                                         
                                         FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss,
                                         
                                         is now streaming on Disney+.
                                         
                                         So I think people are more excited for this movie.
                                         
                                         I think it's the second most expensive film of all time
                                         
                                         I've talked about this to make.
                                         
                                         So I think it might do second most expensive film of all time I've talked about this to make. So yeah, I think it might do alright, Mason.
                                         
                                         So I thought, why not a good a week as any to talk about X-Men movies?
                                         
    
                                         So yeah, what, it's going to make bloody $92 million
                                         
                                         because I'm going to go in and buy a large coconut popcorn.
                                         
                                         Am I right? Am I right?
                                         
                                         Expensive.
                                         
                                         Absolutely.
                                         
                                         You know you can bring other food into the cinema.
                                         
                                         You don't need to buy that popcorn.
                                         
                                         I'm sick of your cinema going
                                         
    
                                         Embracing it
                                         
                                         I'm embracing it
                                         
                                         Yeah yeah
                                         
                                         You can't do nothing
                                         
                                         So I thought
                                         
                                         Let's go through the history of the X-Men films
                                         
                                         Talk a little bit about our favourites or whatever
                                         
                                         And what's
                                         
    
                                         We'll do this
                                         
                                         Our patented
                                         
                                         Best movie ever
                                         
                                         Worst movie ever
                                         
                                         Great
                                         
                                         That's patented right
                                         
                                         You took care of that
                                         
                                         Ah
                                         
    
                                         Look
                                         
                                         Ah
                                         
                                         We're in trouble
                                         
                                         Shit Yeah We're gonna trouble. Oh, shit.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         We're going to get sued by everybody.
                                         
                                         So, yeah, but I wanted to ask you this first of all.
                                         
                                         I've got two requests of you.
                                         
    
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         One request.
                                         
                                         Can you point out in each movie when and how Professor X gets Professor X?
                                         
                                         Okay, great.
                                         
                                         I'm ready.
                                         
                                         For those not aware, that's when they write out the most powerful character who could
                                         
                                         solve every scenario.
                                         
                                         Yeah, it's at the point where they realize okay here's the tipping point if professor x is available he's going to end this this strife
                                         
    
                                         so immediately immediately so let's yeah there you go slip on something second request yep can
                                         
                                         you hum the x-men movie score no i can't no yeah start me off no i can't. No, you have to start me off.
                                         
                                         No, I can't do it.
                                         
                                         So I thought maybe I'll just put in this sweet intro to start, just to get everybody jazzed.
                                         
                                         All right.
                                         
                                         And you might think it's familiar because you just sung it. What a great theme song.
                                         
                                         Pretty great, yeah.
                                         
                                         Why didn't they just use that?
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, with the claws slashing and the plane taking off.
                                         
                                         Man.
                                         
                                         Juggernaut running into another guy.
                                         
                                         Yeah, absolutely.
                                         
                                         So yeah, Mason.
                                         
                                         People in the middle.
                                         
                                         Innocent people.
                                         
                                         Innocent people.
                                         
    
                                         Killed.
                                         
                                         X-Men, the year 2000. You remember that? We Innocent people. Killed. X-Men.
                                         
                                         The year 2000.
                                         
                                         You remember that?
                                         
                                         We were both at school, I think.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Sure?
                                         
                                         No, I graduated high school.
                                         
    
                                         Congratulations.
                                         
                                         Thank you.
                                         
                                         Thank you.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         You're still wearing my Letterman's jacket, though.
                                         
                                         Keep it alive.
                                         
                                         Yep.
                                         
                                         I'm still hanging around the mall shop with my best girl.
                                         
    
                                         Did you go to school reunion?
                                         
                                         I was in the Jets.
                                         
                                         No, I didn't.
                                         
                                         Me neither.
                                         
                                         We had a six month one.
                                         
                                         That's way too early, right?
                                         
                                         It was just people pointing out what phone they had.
                                         
                                         That was basically it.
                                         
    
                                         Now, I didn't rush out to see this movie at the time because it was on the back of a whole
                                         
                                         bunch of just mediocre comic book movies.
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         And there was nobody in it that I was really interested in seeing.
                                         
                                         I remember when Patrick Stewart was cast,
                                         
                                         and I went, great casting, of course.
                                         
                                         Yep.
                                         
                                         But other than that, I was like, nah, not really.
                                         
    
                                         And then what happened?
                                         
                                         And then I saw it on VHS.
                                         
                                         You were there, actually.
                                         
                                         Huh.
                                         
                                         And I loved it.
                                         
                                         And it's pretty great.
                                         
                                         I mean, it's a bit dated.
                                         
                                         I mean, it was certainly better on the big screen, not on VHS. Did you go see the cinema? Yeah. Sure. Did you love it at the time? great i mean it's a bit dated i mean it was certainly better on the big screen not on vhs did you guys see the cinema yeah sure yeah did you love it at the time did you embrace
                                         
    
                                         it i embraced it yeah yeah yeah embraced hugh jackman as a peer sure can we talk well we i
                                         
                                         pulled this this photo up this is on like the internets i'm familiar because the x-men movies
                                         
                                         have spanned like 14 years 13. 13, 14 years. Yeah.
                                         
                                         And you've got your first...
                                         
                                         You've got your early Hugh Jackman.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         31 in X-Men.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         And then over here in the Wolverine.
                                         
                                         Ridiculous.
                                         
                                         He's gotten ripped.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         He's worked out like a mad dog.
                                         
                                         Well, that's the thing.
                                         
                                         Because I guess you wouldn't want to commit to working out that hard in the first one
                                         
                                         just in case it doesn't fly, like the series doesn't fly.
                                         
    
                                         Well, because there was a whole lot of people cast before him,
                                         
                                         I'd imagine he came along pretty late as well.
                                         
                                         Right, right, right.
                                         
                                         But, yeah, there's a significant size difference in that.
                                         
                                         And also, that wasn't really a requirement then, was it,
                                         
                                         to get as big as you possibly could?
                                         
                                         That's actually a good point, yeah.
                                         
                                         It was kind of like, just work out a bit, I guess.
                                         
    
                                         It doesn't really matter.
                                         
                                         You'll mostly be in a leather suit, so forget it.
                                         
                                         I mean, he still looked pretty good in that movie, didn't he?
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         We were both impressed.
                                         
                                         Yeah, absolutely.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         Did you know, Mason, I've got a bunch of trivia for this as well.
                                         
                                         I'm ready.
                                         
                                         So, you know, this is the only X-Men film that's an original story.
                                         
                                         All other films were based on stories from the comics.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         X-Men First Class, though.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         What's that based off?
                                         
    
                                         There's a whole lot of young Magneto, young Xavier stuff.
                                         
                                         No, I don't...
                                         
                                         What is your source for that?
                                         
                                         IMDBs.
                                         
                                         Oh, okay.
                                         
                                         It's okay.
                                         
                                         That might be an old piece of trivia.
                                         
                                         Might be, yeah.
                                         
    
                                         I think that's based on 1, 2, and 3.
                                         
                                         X-Men 2.
                                         
                                         God Loves Man Kills.
                                         
                                         X-Men 3, Phoenix Saga, and the Joss Whedon one about the mutant cure.
                                         
                                         Yep, okay.
                                         
                                         Wolverine Origins is based on an Origins Wolverine comic.
                                         
                                         Correct.
                                         
                                         The Wolverine's based on the Japanese saga.
                                         
    
                                         I'm pretty sure First Class is based off a bunch of stuff, though.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I would say so.
                                         
                                         I might be wrong.
                                         
                                         That's too general, yeah.
                                         
                                         Yeah, you're right.
                                         
                                         That's all trivia.
                                         
                                         Lift your game IMDB trivia section.
                                         
                                         I bet we'll have some outdated goofs as well.
                                         
    
                                         You know?
                                         
                                         Do you know Robert Rodriguez and Tim Burton were approached to direct?
                                         
                                         As a team?
                                         
                                         As a team.
                                         
                                         That'd be great.
                                         
                                         I'd watch that.
                                         
                                         Me too.
                                         
                                         They turned it down in favour of other films.
                                         
    
                                         The Robert Rodriguez one I wouldn't mind seeing,
                                         
                                         but no, I don't want to see a Tim Burton expert.
                                         
                                         Absolutely not.
                                         
                                         God no.
                                         
                                         Richard Donner was approached.
                                         
                                         Don't want to see it. Joel Schumacher was was approached don't want to say it joel schumacher
                                         
                                         was approached i want to say that must have been around before batman and robin came out but they're
                                         
                                         like well he's done the batman so he could probably do it brett ratner who eventually did do one
                                         
    
                                         don't want to say that no either of them joel mctiernan die hard die hard okay and i had to
                                         
                                         did he has he ever maybe didn Did he... Has he ever...
                                         
                                         Maybe he didn't do Die Hard 2.
                                         
                                         Has he ever done anything that isn't...
                                         
                                         That is superhero-y or supernatural or anything like that?
                                         
                                         He did Supernatural.
                                         
                                         The TV show Supernatural.
                                         
                                         That's not true.
                                         
    
                                         I can check.
                                         
                                         Do you want me to check?
                                         
                                         Please do.
                                         
                                         I like how we pick and choose what we look up.
                                         
                                         Like, it's just sometimes they're like,
                                         
                                         nope, it's against the rules of the show.
                                         
                                         But other times they're like, yeah, we'll stick it up.
                                         
                                         Because I know I'd be fascinated.
                                         
    
                                         Is it just because he's a good action director?
                                         
                                         I would say so.
                                         
                                         I don't think they were looking for a comic book director then necessarily
                                         
                                         because there weren't that many of them.
                                         
                                         That's true. Except for the ones that I did mention. They were making the rules. They necessarily because there weren't that many of them. That's true.
                                         
                                         Except for the ones that I did mention.
                                         
                                         They were making the rules.
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah.
                                         
    
                                         They were making the rules and breaking the rules.
                                         
                                         That's it.
                                         
                                         What I enjoyed a lot actually in X-Men 1 is the villains were very good.
                                         
                                         They took what I would consider a terrible villain like Toad and they gave the role to
                                         
                                         Ray Park who's Darth Maul.
                                         
                                         Yeah, killing it.
                                         
                                         And killing it.
                                         
                                         Yeah, exactly.
                                         
    
                                         They made...
                                         
                                         I like a villain...
                                         
                                         I like a hero or a villain that knows what they're doing.
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         Like the Grant Morrison Justice League comic was great
                                         
                                         because everybody on that team knew what they were doing.
                                         
                                         That's why they were the best.
                                         
                                         And similar in X-Men 1,
                                         
    
                                         the bad guys are in the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants because they are the best.
                                         
                                         All Toad can do is stick to walls and phlegm and he's got a long tongue and he can take down half the team by himself.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Because he knows what he's doing.
                                         
                                         Very good point.
                                         
                                         You ready for this?
                                         
                                         I'm ready.
                                         
                                         Nomads, 1986.
                                         
    
                                         Never heard of it.
                                         
                                         Predator, 1987.
                                         
                                         Oh, yeah.
                                         
                                         Never heard of it.
                                         
                                         Die Hard, Hunt for Red October, Medicine Man, Last Action Hero, Die Hard with a Vengeance. So Never heard of it Die Hard Hunt for Red October
                                         
                                         Medicine Man
                                         
                                         Last Action Hero
                                         
                                         Die Hard with a Vengeance
                                         
    
                                         So we didn't do Die Hard 2
                                         
                                         We did the two best Die Hards
                                         
                                         There you go
                                         
                                         13th Warrior
                                         
                                         Haven't seen
                                         
                                         Thomas Crown
                                         
                                         Haven't seen
                                         
                                         Rollerball
                                         
    
                                         And the last one
                                         
                                         Was Basic
                                         
                                         And there's one upcoming
                                         
                                         Project called Red Squad
                                         
                                         Which is apparently amazing
                                         
                                         Never heard of it
                                         
                                         Don't know anything about it
                                         
                                         Exactly yeah
                                         
    
                                         So yeah there you go
                                         
                                         I think it would have been
                                         
                                         An okay choice I guess I mean Roller go. I think it would have been an okay choice, I guess.
                                         
                                         I mean, Rollerball was pretty great.
                                         
                                         It might have been one...
                                         
                                         I reckon if he'd done it, it would have been more of a...
                                         
                                         more of a film where they were much more of like a paramilitary team.
                                         
                                         It was less mutant powers.
                                         
    
                                         I reckon they all would have had guns.
                                         
                                         Yeah, you're probably right.
                                         
                                         Yeah, good point.
                                         
                                         Did you know Wolverine's line mates?
                                         
                                         Oh, sorry, there's a few other ones who were considered.
                                         
                                         Danny Boyle.
                                         
                                         That would have been interesting.
                                         
                                         Yeah, because you love Danny Boyle.
                                         
    
                                         I do.
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         Fuck you.
                                         
                                         I do love Danny Boyle.
                                         
                                         Stephen Hopkins.
                                         
                                         No, no, him.
                                         
                                         Yeah, no idea.
                                         
                                         Irvin Kershner.
                                         
    
                                         I thought you were going to say Stephen Hawking.
                                         
                                         Oh, imagine.
                                         
                                         Stephen Dorff.
                                         
                                         Oh.
                                         
                                         He would have been a good blood monster from Blade
                                         
                                         absolutely
                                         
                                         Erwin Kirshner
                                         
                                         who did Empire Strikes Back
                                         
    
                                         though
                                         
                                         I don't think he did
                                         
                                         what's he done since then
                                         
                                         well he's dead
                                         
                                         but
                                         
                                         what's he done for us lately
                                         
                                         huh
                                         
                                         but he hasn't done anything
                                         
    
                                         what an arsehole
                                         
                                         he hasn't done anything
                                         
                                         as good as
                                         
                                         Empire Strikes Back
                                         
                                         I don't think anyway
                                         
                                         yeah
                                         
                                         to break our cardinal rule Mason
                                         
                                         I can check though
                                         
    
                                         please do
                                         
                                         and he
                                         
                                         you know what
                                         
                                         this is the
                                         
                                         looking it up episode
                                         
                                         we're going to
                                         
                                         look up everything
                                         
                                         there's going to be
                                         
    
                                         a lot of pauses
                                         
                                         where we look up
                                         
                                         unimportant information
                                         
                                         that all our listeners
                                         
                                         probably know anyway
                                         
                                         and they're just
                                         
                                         shouting at us
                                         
                                         going of course
                                         
    
                                         we know he did that one
                                         
                                         and he did this and this
                                         
                                         he's so ignorant
                                         
                                         oh he did an episode
                                         
                                         of Sequest TSV
                                         
                                         I did Robocop 2
                                         
                                         he did Never Say Never Sequest DSV. I did Robocop 2. Yep.
                                         
                                         He did Never Say Never Again, which is probably terrible.
                                         
    
                                         Yep.
                                         
                                         No, a bunch of other stuff. What season of Sequest DSV was it?
                                         
                                         Was it the one where they were in space?
                                         
                                         Episode 1.
                                         
                                         Oh.
                                         
                                         So, the best one?
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         That was the best, yeah.
                                         
    
                                         You also did...
                                         
                                         Do you remember the show Amazing Stories?
                                         
                                         Yep.
                                         
                                         Did a few episodes of that.
                                         
                                         That was the theme of that.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         I know it. This is the same and looking stuff
                                         
                                         up episode there's a bunch of stuff from like the 50s and 60s which i do not recognize do you know
                                         
    
                                         the young captives no it's one of the class classics one of the greats masons i don't know
                                         
                                         it so yeah but that was all before brian single was chosen there was a john wayne film called
                                         
                                         they were expendable no no i know i I was just curious to know whether they initially attempted to make...
                                         
                                         You know, because there's The Expendables.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         You're familiar with that.
                                         
                                         I'm familiar.
                                         
                                         I was wondering if they were like, hey, let's streamline this.
                                         
    
                                         Because I haven't seen it.
                                         
                                         And maybe that's the basis for those films.
                                         
                                         It's possible.
                                         
                                         I hope they bring back a digitized John Wayne.
                                         
                                         But they get back the John Wayne where he played Genghis Khan.
                                         
                                         And he's taped the eyelids. So yeah yeah I know right yeah I would like to see them resurrect dead action
                                         
                                         heroes Steve would you watch Expendables 4 if Steve McQueen was in it no out of principle
                                         
                                         because I love Steve McQueen and that's very uncool because Steve McQueen and Stylist alone
                                         
    
                                         are very different and Steve McQueen's a legend and I don't care for Stallone. But what if, what if they have like,
                                         
                                         like a natural on-screen chemistry?
                                         
                                         You know,
                                         
                                         Sylvester Stallone
                                         
                                         and dead Steve McQueen.
                                         
                                         How,
                                         
                                         how is that possible?
                                         
                                         Stallone has zero chemistry.
                                         
    
                                         Aside from the chemistry
                                         
                                         he pumps into his weird physique.
                                         
                                         Zing.
                                         
                                         Zing.
                                         
                                         Human growth hormone Zing.
                                         
                                         So,
                                         
                                         yeah,
                                         
                                         I guess if it was amazing.
                                         
    
                                         Come on,
                                         
                                         you'd watch that.
                                         
                                         I guess I would.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         All my heroes are dead, Mason.
                                         
                                         I know. Fuck it. Wait a second. Oh yeah, sorry. Thank that. I guess I would. Yeah. Yeah. All my heroes are dead, Mason. I know.
                                         
                                         Fuck it.
                                         
    
                                         Wait a second.
                                         
                                         Oh, yeah, sorry.
                                         
                                         Thank you.
                                         
                                         For now.
                                         
                                         Ooh.
                                         
                                         Yeah, no, I would say that.
                                         
                                         But I was going to say about that.
                                         
                                         When is Expendables 3 out?
                                         
    
                                         This year.
                                         
                                         Because you made that pact, remember?
                                         
                                         What was the pact?
                                         
                                         It was something about Harrison Ford.
                                         
                                         If he says, get off my plane.
                                         
                                         If he doesn't say, get off my plane, you have to...
                                         
                                         I have to shoot myself.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         That's right.
                                         
                                         Let's say not to death, though.
                                         
                                         No. Let's just end up in the lake. That's... I have to shoot myself. Yeah. That's right. Let's say not to death, though. Let's just end up in the lake.
                                         
                                         No, I have to do it.
                                         
                                         I'm a man of my word, Mason.
                                         
                                         Fine.
                                         
                                         Except when it comes to looking things up or not looking things up.
                                         
                                         Correct.
                                         
    
                                         You know the Wolverine's line, what do they call you, wheels?
                                         
                                         That was ad-libbed by Hugh Jackman, who hates people in wheels.
                                         
                                         Because he hates people with disabilities, yeah.
                                         
                                         And did you know, I didn't know this, but Storm has an African accent in this, and it's
                                         
                                         the only one that she used it in.
                                         
                                         Did you pick that up?
                                         
                                         I mean, I haven't seen it recently, but...
                                         
                                         I would have said she had a vague sort of accent.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         I couldn't have said what region it was from.
                                         
                                         Nah.
                                         
                                         What region of Africa?
                                         
                                         You don't know your African regions.
                                         
                                         And also, she's only got about three lines in that whole film.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         Including the famous, what happens to a toad when it gets hit by lightning?
                                         
                                         The same thing that happens to everything else.
                                         
                                         And you delivered that better than Sherry did.
                                         
                                         Well, apparently it was supposed to be flat like that.
                                         
                                         Like, who cares?
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Same thing that happens to everything else.
                                         
                                         Just like an offhand.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         I'm a very good actor.
                                         
                                         You are.
                                         
                                         Do you know Bridesmaid's first choice to play Wolverine was Russell Crowe, but he had to
                                         
                                         turn it down for monetary reasons.
                                         
                                         Do you want to hear some other names?
                                         
                                         Of course you do.
                                         
    
                                         Because he couldn't get through the door, mate. Too wide. Fat Russell Crowe but he had to turn it down for monetary reasons. Do you want to hear some other names? Of course you do. Because he couldn't
                                         
                                         get through the door
                                         
                                         mate.
                                         
                                         Too wide.
                                         
                                         Fat Russell Crowe.
                                         
                                         He was trim then.
                                         
                                         He was doing
                                         
                                         gladiators and
                                         
    
                                         muscles.
                                         
                                         you're right.
                                         
                                         He's up and down
                                         
                                         mate that guy.
                                         
                                         He certainly doesn't
                                         
                                         work out like a mad
                                         
                                         dog but you know
                                         
                                         he keeps it.
                                         
    
                                         It's interesting that
                                         
                                         both his choices
                                         
                                         were aggressive
                                         
                                         Australian men.
                                         
                                         I was trying to
                                         
                                         think of a way to
                                         
                                         say Antipodean.
                                         
                                         Somebody from Australia or New Zealand.
                                         
    
                                         Okay, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         Because we don't want Russell Crowe anymore.
                                         
                                         Wait, do we want Russell Crowe?
                                         
                                         Well, he hasn't done anything lately that we're against.
                                         
                                         He hasn't thrown a phone at anyone.
                                         
                                         Okay, he's Australian again.
                                         
                                         Good.
                                         
                                         No, some other names include...
                                         
    
                                         I was going to bring something up.
                                         
                                         I'm going to say, I can remember some of these options, I think.
                                         
                                         Sure, what have you got?
                                         
                                         Glenn Danzig?
                                         
                                         Yeah, well, that was in the early 90s okay right and he was up or we're
                                         
                                         not upset but he didn't see the x-men movie because he was like it looks it's looks it's
                                         
                                         ridiculous or he did say he hated it and that's when they wanted really short people yeah who is
                                         
                                         really sure he's really short but he was famously quoted as saying if he did it, he would have played the role less gay. He said that.
                                         
    
                                         Wow.
                                         
                                         So, yeah.
                                         
                                         But I think they, at the time, I think he was approaching 40 and they wanted someone younger.
                                         
                                         Because he's been around for quite a while.
                                         
                                         I think Glenn Danzig is gay.
                                         
                                         Let me check.
                                         
                                         I'm going to look that up.
                                         
                                         Really?
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Okay, fair enough.
                                         
                                         Aaron Eckhart?
                                         
                                         Don't say it.
                                         
                                         Jean-Claude Van Damme?
                                         
                                         Don't say it. And don't like it. Damme. Don't say it and don't like it.
                                         
                                         Viggo Mortensen.
                                         
                                         That would work. Yeah. Edward Norton.
                                         
    
                                         Bearing in mind this is
                                         
                                         off the back of American History X.
                                         
                                         Not. Yeah, maybe.
                                         
                                         I'm going to give you a maybe. Give you a maybe.
                                         
                                         Alright, cool. I've got one other amazing one which was revealed
                                         
                                         this week while you look up whether Glenn
                                         
                                         Danzig. His name's not Glenn, is it?
                                         
                                         No, it is Glenn. It's Glenn Danzig.
                                         
    
                                         Is it? Cool.
                                         
                                         No, don't worry about it.
                                         
                                         It's irrelevant.
                                         
                                         The other one, and this only came out this week.
                                         
                                         In 1997, this piece of concept art was drawn up.
                                         
                                         Only recently surfaced.
                                         
                                         That is Mel Gibson.
                                         
                                         Wow. That's very late 80s, early 90s.
                                         
    
                                         They wanted Mel Gibson, apparently.
                                         
                                         People were saying that he should get the role now,
                                         
                                         for like an old Wolverine.
                                         
                                         And I think he'd be good, but at the same time,
                                         
                                         he doesn't deserve it, and he shouldn't get it.
                                         
                                         Because he's a bad person.
                                         
                                         Yeah, and he's not Australian.
                                         
                                         And he's not Australian.
                                         
    
                                         He's lost his Australian...
                                         
                                         Yeah, that's it.
                                         
                                         I'm thinking of Rob Halford from Judas Priest.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         He's gay.
                                         
                                         But he also said... Irrelevant, as we put it. Irrelevant,ord from Judas Priest Okay He's gay But he also says
                                         
                                         Irrelevant
                                         
                                         As we put it, irrelevant
                                         
    
                                         But it's just
                                         
                                         He also said the same thing though
                                         
                                         Yeah
                                         
                                         So, you know
                                         
                                         There you go
                                         
                                         Do you know there's a continuity error in this, Mason?
                                         
                                         In this movie?
                                         
                                         There's a bit like
                                         
    
                                         These movies are riddled with continuity errors
                                         
                                         I just want to talk about this one though
                                         
                                         Okay, I'm ready
                                         
                                         There's a scene that was praised by fans, right?
                                         
                                         Because when
                                         
                                         Us
                                         
                                         Yes, us particularly When Iceman is talking and it's a scene that was praised by fans, right? Us? Yes.
                                         
                                         Great.
                                         
    
                                         Us, particularly.
                                         
                                         When Iceman is talking and it's a sunny day and he's got like an ice breath.
                                         
                                         Just a little touch.
                                         
                                         Right, right, right.
                                         
                                         It's nice, right?
                                         
                                         But it turns out to be the scene where Mystique is impersonating him, meaning he wouldn't
                                         
                                         have ice breath.
                                         
                                         Correct, that's true.
                                         
    
                                         So it's all amazing but wrong.
                                         
                                         So good work.
                                         
                                         Well, well, yeah.
                                         
                                         Well captured.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Unless she can do that as well, but I don't think that's in her skill set.
                                         
                                         No, it isn't.
                                         
                                         But, no prize this.
                                         
    
                                         She has some crushed ice in her mouth.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         There we go.
                                         
                                         Because she is a perfectionist.
                                         
                                         Absolutely.
                                         
                                         Oh, I've got some other names here I forgot to mention.
                                         
                                         Gary Sinise for Wolverine.
                                         
                                         Yep, okay.
                                         
    
                                         Keanu Reeves for Wolverine.
                                         
                                         Nope.
                                         
                                         Doug Ray Scott.
                                         
                                         I was going to say that.
                                         
                                         That's the one I was thinking of.
                                         
                                         He was cast.
                                         
                                         Yep. He then went on to be in Desperate say that. That's the one I was thinking of. He was cast. Yep.
                                         
                                         He then went on to be in Desperate Housewives, Mission Impossible 2.
                                         
    
                                         Not in that order.
                                         
                                         And then he died of a broken heart.
                                         
                                         Oh, okay.
                                         
                                         But yeah, apparently Hugh Jackman ran into him at one point and he kind of just like
                                         
                                         apologized, sort of.
                                         
                                         He's like, he didn't really know what to say properly.
                                         
                                         Right.
                                         
                                         What do you say?
                                         
    
                                         Like, I stole your career.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Essentially.
                                         
                                         And then relatively...
                                         
                                         My bad.
                                         
                                         But that happens all the time.
                                         
                                         All the time.
                                         
                                         It's just a weird twist of fate.
                                         
    
                                         There's always...
                                         
                                         We always talk about roles people could have had.
                                         
                                         And you think of somebody like...
                                         
                                         Like delicious roles.
                                         
                                         Yeah, delicious.
                                         
                                         Like a cinnamon roll.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         But like when you...
                                         
    
                                         An example is Sean Connery.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         And he has like this endless list of things that he could have done, but he didn't understand
                                         
                                         them.
                                         
                                         And then they turned out to be huge hits.
                                         
                                         And then he did something because he thought it was similar,
                                         
                                         and then it turned out to be a disaster or whatever.
                                         
                                         League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.
                                         
    
                                         League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.
                                         
                                         The Matrix slash League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.
                                         
                                         Slash Lord of the Rings.
                                         
                                         But he's also been in tons of amazing films.
                                         
                                         These lists go on forever.
                                         
                                         Pretty much in Hollywood,
                                         
                                         everybody is considered for every role at a certain point.
                                         
                                         Yes, absolutely.
                                         
    
                                         But I feel like he's never quite bounced back from that.
                                         
                                         No, that's true.
                                         
                                         But there you go.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Did you know also that...
                                         
                                         You should call his buddy Joe McTiernan.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         From Punt for Red October.
                                         
    
                                         Absolutely.
                                         
                                         Oh, yeah.
                                         
                                         Good point.
                                         
                                         Okay, I'm ready.
                                         
                                         Wait, Sean Connery?
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Okay, cool.
                                         
                                         I meant...
                                         
    
                                         I mean, the other guy didn't bounce back.
                                         
                                         Oh, Dougray Scott.
                                         
                                         Dougray.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Yeah, that's a shame. Would you know if you saw him on the street? Yeah. Hmm. guy didn't bounce back. Oh, Dougray Scott. Dougray. Yeah. Yeah, that's a shame.
                                         
                                         Would you know if you saw him on the street?
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         I wouldn't say anything.
                                         
    
                                         But I'd know.
                                         
                                         Is that because he's your mailman?
                                         
                                         You know how there's like a Magneto background in this?
                                         
                                         It's at the start.
                                         
                                         It's a great opening scene and they replicate it in first class.
                                         
                                         That's not reused footage in first class? No, they reshot that. With a different actor? With a different actor. Okay, right. Well, it's a great opening scene and they replicated it in first class. That's not reused footage in first class?
                                         
                                         No, they reshot that.
                                         
                                         With a different actor?
                                         
    
                                         With a different actor.
                                         
                                         It's a kid.
                                         
                                         I don't know what a kid is.
                                         
                                         Kids age, basically.
                                         
                                         I know.
                                         
                                         They had Rogue's background as well.
                                         
                                         Similarly, they sort of had Rogue.
                                         
                                         They had Storm and Cyclops' backgrounds scripted and storyboarded.
                                         
    
                                         And Storm's involved her changing the weather
                                         
                                         dramatically in Africa
                                         
                                         and it just wrecks a whole bunch of stuff.
                                         
                                         She made it rain.
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         With cash.
                                         
                                         She sure did.
                                         
                                         In a strip club.
                                         
    
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         And Cyclops, that involved him,
                                         
                                         his powers manifesting as a teenager
                                         
                                         when he's in a school bathroom
                                         
                                         and he just tears it apart.
                                         
                                         So yeah, that's interesting.
                                         
                                         And that bathroom will come into play later, Mason.
                                         
                                         So remember that.
                                         
    
                                         In the opening sequence of Casino Royale?
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         Were they going to have him,
                                         
                                         because originally he could control his eye power,
                                         
                                         his optic blast,
                                         
                                         but then he got a head injury.
                                         
                                         Hit to the head, yeah.
                                         
                                         Were they going to have him be in control of that?
                                         
    
                                         I don't think so.
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         Well, that streamlines it.
                                         
                                         You don't want to build in a car crash scene.
                                         
                                         Nah, absolutely not. Have I talked about in the podcast
                                         
                                         how much I hate the car crash angle?
                                         
                                         Oh, is this where there's a guy...
                                         
                                         We haven't talked about this.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, two people are in a car, maybe. They're having a
                                         
                                         conversation, right? Yeah, yeah. And then
                                         
                                         the camera angle cuts
                                         
                                         to perhaps the driver's perspective.
                                         
                                         Oh, you know what? The passenger's perspective,
                                         
                                         they're looking at the driver. Yeah. And you can see the driver's perspective. Oh, you know what? The passenger's perspective, they're looking at the driver.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         And you can see the person's face
                                         
    
                                         and you can see a little space to the side.
                                         
                                         You can see out the window.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Like what you can see outside the window.
                                         
                                         There's a weird blank.
                                         
                                         There's a weird blank space.
                                         
                                         You're like, what's going to happen in that?
                                         
                                         I feel really tense
                                         
    
                                         anytime you see that angle,
                                         
                                         the car crash angle.
                                         
                                         Because you know what?
                                         
                                         A truck's going to come
                                         
                                         or a dinosaur,
                                         
                                         usually,
                                         
                                         or a murderer.
                                         
                                         You know? You're right. I hate it. I hate that angle. You hate it a truck's gonna come or a dinosaur usually or a murderer you know you're right i hate it i hate that angle you hate it because it's poor filmmaking or you hate it because
                                         
    
                                         it makes you like tense both of those things yeah what were we talking about i've forgotten
                                         
                                         bathroom seeds from x-men remember i said to remember that fact yep comes into play right
                                         
                                         now should i note it down no but you can forget this immediately fantastic this is for you guys
                                         
                                         at home as well the bathroom set was the one used in X-Men 2.
                                         
                                         Remember when Mystique...
                                         
                                         No, I don't remember a bathroom sequence in X-Men 2.
                                         
                                         No, it is when Mystique grabs that security guard and she's like, I'm going to have sex
                                         
                                         with you.
                                         
    
                                         But then she like knocks him out and injects him with the metal.
                                         
                                         That's the same bathroom set.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         So recycling in movies, Mason.
                                         
                                         Yeah, okay.
                                         
                                         It's great.
                                         
                                         I've got one more piece of trivia.
                                         
                                         I'm ready.
                                         
    
                                         Ready?
                                         
                                         Hugh Jackman got his testicles caught in his harness.
                                         
                                         I thought that was going to go somewhere else.
                                         
                                         And I was going to be like, maybe he got his testicles caught in the...
                                         
                                         Like, I was going to make a sweet joke about somebody getting their testicles caught.
                                         
                                         But apparently, somebody's made that joke for me, and that someone is life.
                                         
                                         Hugh Jackman got his testicles caught in his harness after a six foot jump
                                         
                                         off the set's
                                         
    
                                         Statue of Liberty.
                                         
                                         Have you ever been in a harness
                                         
                                         and you get your testicles
                                         
                                         a little squashed?
                                         
                                         No.
                                         
                                         It's very unpleasant.
                                         
                                         I'm not surprised.
                                         
                                         I'd be surprised
                                         
    
                                         if you were surprised.
                                         
                                         Didn't he also arrive
                                         
                                         on like the set of Oprah?
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         When Oprah came to Australia
                                         
                                         he came down on a big zip line and he like crashed at the end.
                                         
                                         That's right.
                                         
                                         And cut his face.
                                         
    
                                         Oh yeah.
                                         
                                         But like a hero, like a great Australian hero.
                                         
                                         Yep.
                                         
                                         He moved on.
                                         
                                         Fantastic.
                                         
                                         Every story I've heard about Hugh Jackman, and I've heard stories from people who have
                                         
                                         met him, say he's like the best guy in the world.
                                         
                                         I've also heard that.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         You got any you want to recount?
                                         
                                         No.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         He rescued me from burning building once
                                         
                                         he said don't talk about it but i'm talking about it anyway i'll tell a huge ackman story another
                                         
                                         day mason because it's not that interesting okay x-men 2 x-men united it's weird though at the time
                                         
                                         i remember walking out about out of this because i was so pumped and i was a little bit disappointed
                                         
    
                                         but this movie's great it's grown on you absolutely like the second oh wait did we say
                                         
                                         x-men 1 best movie ever or worst movie well for on you. Absolutely. Like the second time I watched it. Oh wait, did we say X-Men 1,
                                         
                                         best movie ever or worst movie ever?
                                         
                                         Well, for the time,
                                         
                                         definitely best movie ever.
                                         
                                         The black suits,
                                         
                                         I know people don't agree with that
                                         
                                         and whatever,
                                         
    
                                         but it was a different time, Mason.
                                         
                                         It was a different era.
                                         
                                         It was a simpler time.
                                         
                                         It was a time when you had to wear a black suit.
                                         
                                         Exactly.
                                         
                                         What do you think?
                                         
                                         I'm going to say best movie ever.
                                         
                                         I enjoyed it a lot.
                                         
    
                                         I would go back to it again.
                                         
                                         It's a fun film.
                                         
                                         It is a fun film.
                                         
                                         Yeah, it's a fun...
                                         
                                         Film. Film. Well put. Thank you. It's a fun film. It is a fun film. Yeah, it's a fun... Film.
                                         
                                         Film.
                                         
                                         Well put.
                                         
                                         Thank you.
                                         
    
                                         X-Men 2, X-Men United.
                                         
                                         Yeah, what did you think of that at the time?
                                         
                                         It wasn't called X-Men United over here, though, right?
                                         
                                         No, it was just called X-Men 2, I think.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Good.
                                         
                                         X-Men United.
                                         
                                         I don't know.
                                         
    
                                         I don't make the rules.
                                         
                                         It's like The Amazing Spider-Man 2, Rise of Electro, which it's called here.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Ridiculous. should I just go
                                         
                                         as trivia then
                                         
                                         have you got
                                         
                                         zero opinions
                                         
                                         on this movie
                                         
    
                                         do I have opinions
                                         
                                         okay what happened
                                         
                                         in that one
                                         
                                         give me the
                                         
                                         quick answer
                                         
                                         there was a
                                         
                                         striker
                                         
                                         oh that's right
                                         
    
                                         oh we forgot
                                         
                                         about the
                                         
                                         when does
                                         
                                         when does
                                         
                                         Picard
                                         
                                         I was gonna say
                                         
                                         Picard
                                         
                                         yeah Picard
                                         
    
                                         when does
                                         
                                         Professor X
                                         
                                         get Professor X
                                         
                                         in X-Men 1
                                         
                                         well
                                         
                                         well
                                         
                                         Mystique
                                         
                                         puts the
                                         
    
                                         black goo in Cerebro right I think it puts the black goo in Cerebro, right?
                                         
                                         I think it's blue.
                                         
                                         It's blue goo in Cerebro.
                                         
                                         And then he uses Cerebro and he gets Professor X'd.
                                         
                                         How does that work?
                                         
                                         Because it doesn't go into him.
                                         
                                         It's just in the helmet.
                                         
                                         Like, that goo doesn't go into his head.
                                         
    
                                         It's probably that goo that they use to clean combs at a hairdresser's.
                                         
                                         You know that stuff?
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         I didn't know that was such a thing.
                                         
                                         You know that stuff?
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         I didn't know that was such a thing.
                                         
                                         And that, because he's a bald man, was so just outrageous to him that he had a fit.
                                         
                                         He'd spent his whole life just... Remember he had that beautiful head of hair?
                                         
                                         He did.
                                         
                                         And then he lost it all.
                                         
                                         And he was like, I swear I will never encounter anything that you might find in a hairdresser.
                                         
                                         I'll never encounter hot rollers.
                                         
                                         I'll never look at them again.
                                         
    
                                         I'll never wear one of those cape things.
                                         
                                         I've got to stay away.
                                         
                                         And then she put the blue goo in and he's like, no!
                                         
                                         And then it just knocked him right out.
                                         
                                         I'll never have a banal conversation with a hairdresser.
                                         
                                         Yeah, about what I'm going to do on the weekend.
                                         
                                         That neither of us care about.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         Did you know, Mason, in X-Men 2, X-Men United?
                                         
                                         Oh, we're back to X-Men 2.
                                         
                                         No, yeah yeah i'm ready
                                         
                                         ian mccallum worked with screenwriters in the scene where bobby drake tells his parents that
                                         
                                         he's a mutant to make it more like a kind of coming out oh interesting yeah that is a quite
                                         
                                         a quite a good scene though as well it's got some amusing touches to it as well would you really be
                                         
                                         that upset if your kid like had like amazing powers um i'd be concerned that they'd be taken away by the government.
                                         
                                         Oh yeah.
                                         
    
                                         Experimented on.
                                         
                                         Yeah, fair point.
                                         
                                         But other than that, you could be like Bobby Drake.
                                         
                                         Check out what my kid could do.
                                         
                                         I would.
                                         
                                         If I had the Iceman kid, I'd like go to public swimming pools with him and make him like freeze it as people jump in.
                                         
                                         Goodness.
                                         
                                         Just cracking skulls and spines.
                                         
    
                                         That's what I'd do.
                                         
                                         Just being a public man. It's fantastic. Yep. You know the bit where everybody freezes? Where Professor X. Goodness. Just cracking skulls and spines. That's what I'd do. Just being a public man.
                                         
                                         It's fantastic.
                                         
                                         Yep.
                                         
                                         You know the bit where everybody freezes?
                                         
                                         Where Professor X.
                                         
                                         Yep.
                                         
                                         Professor X's everybody.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         And they all freeze.
                                         
                                         They're all like mimes and stuff.
                                         
                                         That's not an effect.
                                         
                                         Oh, interesting.
                                         
                                         Like street performers and mimes and whatnot.
                                         
                                         That's a good use of practical technology.
                                         
                                         Well, I'm going to go straight into the Professor X-ing.
                                         
    
                                         Because what happens in X-Men 2, if I recall, because he goes to visit Magneto in the plastic prison.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         And then...
                                         
                                         Which is a great scene, that whole thing.
                                         
                                         Yeah, that's good.
                                         
                                         When he breaks out.
                                         
                                         But then he realises that they were going to capture him.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         To put him in the fake Cerise.
                                         
                                         He knew he was going to be Professor X-ed.
                                         
                                         Yeah, he knew he was going to be Professor X-ed, right?
                                         
                                         And they gas the room.
                                         
                                         Yeah. Knock him out. They Professor X'd. Yeah, he knew he was going to be Professor X'd, right? And they gas the room. Yeah.
                                         
                                         Knock him out.
                                         
                                         They Professor X'd him.
                                         
                                         But, because we just talked about, right in the first scene, he freezes everybody's minds
                                         
    
                                         within, you know, several hundred yards.
                                         
                                         Oh, yeah.
                                         
                                         So why couldn't he just...
                                         
                                         Professor X everyone.
                                         
                                         Professor X everybody in that room.
                                         
                                         Be like, even if the gas is going, you go, okay, everybody stop Professor X-ing me.
                                         
                                         Like switch the gas off.
                                         
                                         You two come down and guard me until the gas is cleared.
                                         
    
                                         You come revive me.
                                         
                                         Yep.
                                         
                                         Exactly.
                                         
                                         And then he's sorted.
                                         
                                         Really good point.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         That's a different scene from the breakout scene as well, isn't it?
                                         
                                         That's like an earlier scene.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Oh man.
                                         
                                         Great movie though.
                                         
                                         Yeah. let's say
                                         
                                         there was some psychic buffers or something sure whatever yeah yeah yeah great that's a no prize
                                         
                                         right there thank you um ethan embry won run the what it was it was all set in a giant version of
                                         
                                         magneto's helmet if you go to the outside of the prison it's just big helmet shaped purple
                                         
                                         did you know mason ethan embry won the role of Nightcrawler after Alan Cummings had to step out?
                                         
    
                                         But he came back.
                                         
                                         Oh.
                                         
                                         What do you think of Ethan Embry?
                                         
                                         You've seen Can't Hardly Wait.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         He's fine.
                                         
                                         Yep.
                                         
                                         He wouldn't have been as religious-y, I wouldn't think.
                                         
    
                                         No, he doesn't have the chops.
                                         
                                         No chops.
                                         
                                         Alan Cummings has always, they've talked about getting it back or whatever but every time he's always like I'm not getting in that make up again
                                         
                                         right exactly
                                         
                                         it took 10 hours
                                         
                                         to become Nightcrawler
                                         
                                         in the scene
                                         
                                         where he's like
                                         
    
                                         fully covered
                                         
                                         where he's got the little
                                         
                                         religious tattoos
                                         
                                         and whatever
                                         
                                         which I think you said
                                         
                                         are entirely unnecessary
                                         
                                         absolutely they are
                                         
                                         that's never been part
                                         
    
                                         of the character
                                         
                                         as far as I know
                                         
                                         I think he was a little bit
                                         
                                         Catholic
                                         
                                         yeah
                                         
                                         I think he became a priest
                                         
                                         at one point
                                         
                                         didn't he
                                         
    
                                         or he was training
                                         
                                         or whatever
                                         
                                         well
                                         
                                         less tattoos
                                         
                                         less tattoos.
                                         
                                         Less tattoos.
                                         
                                         Or catechisms.
                                         
                                         Sure.
                                         
    
                                         I don't know what that means.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Did you know Mason, when Wolverine is in the adamantium processing chamber, do you remember that?
                                         
                                         Where he goes and he's like, where did I come from?
                                         
                                         Right, right.
                                         
                                         Uh-huh.
                                         
                                         My memories are coming back to me, sort of.
                                         
                                         You remember?
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         They really need to drop that whole memory thing.
                                         
                                         It's been long enough, don't you think?
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         They dropped it in the comics.
                                         
                                         Just have him remember stuff.
                                         
                                         Also, it's not a bullet to the head that gives him his trauma.
                                         
                                         It's like, isn't it his mutation, his healing factor that like blocked out memories?
                                         
    
                                         Sort of papers over painful memories.
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         That's pretty cool.
                                         
                                         Like being shot in the head, like that kind of painful memory.
                                         
                                         Being shot in the head with adamantium bullets.
                                         
                                         Here's something for you.
                                         
                                         It's probably a combination of things.
                                         
                                         I'm sure it is.
                                         
    
                                         Bad luck.
                                         
                                         Some other stuff.
                                         
                                         There's also an x-ray
                                         
                                         of what appears to be
                                         
                                         like a metal wing.
                                         
                                         Oh, like an archangel wing.
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         And so alluding to archangels.
                                         
    
                                         So yeah, so there you go.
                                         
                                         That's pretty interesting.
                                         
                                         And then he turns up
                                         
                                         in a later film.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Briefly.
                                         
                                         And saves his dad from a window.
                                         
                                         As a regular angel, yeah.
                                         
    
                                         As a regular angel, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         Do you know, Mason?
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         During the scene where Professor X is Professor X-ing everybody in the world.
                                         
                                         No.
                                         
                                         Stryker's son is Professor X-ing everybody in the world.
                                         
                                         There's a bit where, you know, he's trying to kill all the mutants.
                                         
                                         Well, they were going to include scenes where Hank McCoy turns into, like, the Beast.
                                         
    
                                         Right, right.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         Because Hank McCoy's actually in this movie.
                                         
                                         You see him on the television
                                         
                                         in human form
                                         
                                         it's not Kelsey Grammer
                                         
                                         there's a whole lot
                                         
                                         of
                                         
    
                                         moments in these movies
                                         
                                         where it's like
                                         
                                         a lot of continuity errors
                                         
                                         a lot of continuity
                                         
                                         I mean for example
                                         
                                         Kitty Pryde is played
                                         
                                         by three different actors
                                         
                                         in the first three
                                         
    
                                         X-Men movie
                                         
                                         there's also
                                         
                                         there's also
                                         
                                         there's going to be
                                         
                                         a bit of like Gambit
                                         
                                         and he's gambling
                                         
                                         and he's got his cards
                                         
                                         he's Gambitling
                                         
    
                                         thank you
                                         
                                         and his cards explode his hands or whatever butitling he's gambling thank you he's gambitling
                                         
                                         and his cards explode
                                         
                                         his hands or whatever
                                         
                                         but you don't see his face
                                         
                                         because they can
                                         
                                         now I
                                         
                                         but they shot this as well
                                         
    
                                         yeah
                                         
                                         Kelsey Grammar is the beast
                                         
                                         in human form
                                         
                                         he doesn't necessarily
                                         
                                         have to look like
                                         
                                         Kelsey Grammar though
                                         
                                         that's a good point
                                         
                                         and also I'm gonna
                                         
    
                                         I'm gonna no prize this one
                                         
                                         and just say
                                         
                                         he had a little image inducer
                                         
                                         like in the comic books
                                         
                                         he's always had a little device
                                         
                                         like a holographic device so he can look human.
                                         
                                         And I'd say, buy X-Men 3.
                                         
                                         He's like, I don't care anymore.
                                         
    
                                         I'm going to look blue.
                                         
                                         Jam it.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Jam it, society.
                                         
                                         Oh, man.
                                         
                                         There were some sets in this movie that were not used.
                                         
                                         They had the danger room, which they didn't use.
                                         
                                         People were clamoring.
                                         
    
                                         Which came back for X-Men 3.
                                         
                                         It did.
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         There was also going to be a setting, like an underground base, where they were going
                                         
                                         to have a nightcrawler toad fight.
                                         
                                         How good would that have been?
                                         
                                         That would have been great.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         But he never came back toad.
                                         
                                         People say that he came back in three, because there's a guy who kind of looks like Toad.
                                         
                                         Say he came back in spirit.
                                         
                                         Nope.
                                         
                                         Nope.
                                         
                                         There's a guy who looks like Toad in three.
                                         
                                         Anytime I blow my nose too hard and snot and blood comes out
                                         
    
                                         he was there
                                         
                                         anytime I stick my tongue
                                         
                                         on a cold pole in winter time
                                         
                                         sticks
                                         
                                         Toad
                                         
                                         he's there
                                         
                                         anytime I pull somebody's glasses off
                                         
                                         and lasers shoot out of their eyes
                                         
    
                                         yes I know it's not a laser
                                         
                                         it's a concussive force blast.
                                         
                                         I know.
                                         
                                         Don't email.
                                         
                                         There's a whole lot of misconceptions
                                         
                                         about Cyclops' eyes as well.
                                         
                                         Like, isn't it that
                                         
                                         that energy shoots out
                                         
    
                                         is like from another dimension
                                         
                                         and his body's like a conduit for it?
                                         
                                         Isn't it something like that?
                                         
                                         I don't think so.
                                         
                                         I think it's
                                         
                                         he absorbs ambient energy from the air.
                                         
                                         That's part of it
                                         
                                         but that's what opens the
                                         
    
                                         the dimensions in his eyes or whatever.
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah, no, that's a thing.
                                         
                                         Shaquille O'Neal apparently badly wanted to be in this film and actively...
                                         
                                         I was going to say complained.
                                         
                                         Right?
                                         
                                         He may have complained.
                                         
                                         That sounds like Shaq.
                                         
                                         Bloody typical.
                                         
    
                                         Didn't get it.
                                         
                                         Who could have he been?
                                         
                                         Anyone, I guess.
                                         
                                         Any giant mutant.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I guess so.
                                         
                                         Juggernaut.
                                         
                                         Colossus?
                                         
                                         Colosso.
                                         
    
                                         But Colossus is Russian. Yeah. Doesn't matter, I guess. They're not black Russians. Hownaut colossus colosso but the colossus is Russian
                                         
                                         yeah
                                         
                                         doesn't matter
                                         
                                         they're black Russians
                                         
                                         how dare you
                                         
                                         I'm drinking one right now
                                         
                                         oh
                                         
                                         I love the sauce
                                         
    
                                         there was also
                                         
                                         a scene
                                         
                                         that
                                         
                                         David Hayter
                                         
                                         I don't know who that is
                                         
                                         screenwriter
                                         
                                         yep
                                         
                                         he was disappointed
                                         
    
                                         because he felt that
                                         
                                         James Marsden
                                         
                                         deserved more screen time
                                         
                                         which I agree with
                                         
                                         yeah yeah
                                         
                                         because he gets
                                         
                                         Professor X'd he'd pretty early on.
                                         
                                         And then he comes back and then he fights a gene.
                                         
    
                                         And then he's like, I'm fine, don't worry about it.
                                         
                                         And then that's it.
                                         
                                         Because he's great, but that character is so criminally underwritten.
                                         
                                         It really is.
                                         
                                         There's also an extended scene that doesn't appear in the final film, Mason.
                                         
                                         Nor is there an additional scene.
                                         
                                         But apparently it exists where Cyclops fights Lady Deathstrike and he picks up two nightstick
                                         
                                         things, prison guard nightsticks, and fights her.
                                         
    
                                         How good would that be?
                                         
                                         Great.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         There are a lot of great action sequences that were not filmed for this.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         And we were left with some okay action sequences.
                                         
                                         No, no. This was another one that was filmed.
                                         
                                         But I guess because they did one with Wolverine,
                                         
    
                                         so you're not going to do another one, I guess.
                                         
                                         Exactly.
                                         
                                         And one of those...
                                         
                                         Oh, no, that would have been at the plastic prison
                                         
                                         because she's at the plastic prison.
                                         
                                         Right, right, yeah, okay.
                                         
                                         God damn it.
                                         
                                         Hmm.
                                         
    
                                         Anyway.
                                         
                                         According to Bryan Singer,
                                         
                                         this is the first film featuring a woman
                                         
                                         piloting an American military aircraft.
                                         
                                         Huh.
                                         
                                         Apparently that's not true, though.
                                         
                                         Oh, great.
                                         
                                         He said that.
                                         
    
                                         Right.
                                         
                                         Not true.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         So I guess Mason.
                                         
                                         He says a lot of things.
                                         
                                         He does, doesn't he?
                                         
                                         I enjoyed this film.
                                         
                                         I'm definitely going to say best movie ever.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         I'm going to say also, the fight sequence between Wolverine and Lady Deathstrike is great.
                                         
                                         Sure.
                                         
                                         But especially because he hasn't reached that level
                                         
                                         of super invulnerability yet.
                                         
                                         Yep.
                                         
                                         He reaches the peak
                                         
                                         at sort of X-Men 3.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         But you can clearly see
                                         
                                         that this...
                                         
                                         She could kill him
                                         
                                         because she's got that bit
                                         
                                         where she's got him pinned
                                         
                                         and stabbing him
                                         
                                         multiple times.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         That's a solid action sequence.
                                         
                                         That is.
                                         
                                         It really is.
                                         
                                         She's a cyborg, isn't she?
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         Was she a cyborg in that?
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
    
                                         I don't think she was.
                                         
                                         No, she was, because the...
                                         
                                         I thought that was just adamantium stuff inside her.
                                         
                                         Yeah, but they were cyborg-y.
                                         
                                         I don't think so.
                                         
                                         They were extendable claws.
                                         
                                         Yeah, Wolverine's got extendable claws.
                                         
                                         Yeah, but they're not...
                                         
    
                                         There's no arguing with you, is there?
                                         
                                         I'm going to say she's not a cyborg.
                                         
                                         I'm going to say best movie ever because she is a cyborg.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         I guess I have to say worst, then?
                                         
                                         Yep, that's right.
                                         
                                         I really enjoy it, but them's the rules.
                                         
                                         That is the rules, exactly.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         X-Men 3, Mason.
                                         
                                         This is when many people say the franchise took a downward franchise.
                                         
                                         Uh-huh, they did.
                                         
                                         I don't think it's that bad.
                                         
                                         Uh, it's not as...
                                         
                                         It's okay.
                                         
                                         It's okay.
                                         
    
                                         There are... Well, there is one specifically much worse film. Correct. it's okay it's okay there are
                                         
                                         well there was one
                                         
                                         specifically much worse film
                                         
                                         correct
                                         
                                         but I remember at the time
                                         
                                         I was like
                                         
                                         that was an okay way
                                         
                                         to end this whole thing
                                         
    
                                         that happened
                                         
                                         what did you think
                                         
                                         at the time of it
                                         
                                         2006
                                         
                                         yeah it was fine
                                         
                                         there you go
                                         
                                         they had that
                                         
                                         sentinel fake out in it
                                         
    
                                         they did everybody was very excited I think that was the first let down yeah is that we think They had that Sentinel fake out in it.
                                         
                                         They did. Everybody was very excited.
                                         
                                         I think that was the first letdown.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Is that we think this is going to be...
                                         
                                         We thought this was going to be Days of Future Past.
                                         
                                         Well, that was a homage to Days of Future Past.
                                         
                                         And the first time we saw the Danger Room.
                                         
    
                                         Two things people want to see.
                                         
                                         Yep.
                                         
                                         That's kind of the Spider-Man 3, bring in Venom, kill him straight away kind of thing.
                                         
                                         Yeah, nah, you're right.
                                         
                                         Oh, they want to see the Danger Room, they want to see Sentinels.
                                         
                                         Well, those things are silly.
                                         
                                         Let's put them in the opening sequence and then reveal that they're dumb.
                                         
                                         Yep, absolutely.
                                         
    
                                         Also, do you know Gambit was supposed to be in this movie?
                                         
                                         Hmm.
                                         
                                         Did we have an actor?
                                         
                                         Nah.
                                         
                                         Did we pick out him?
                                         
                                         I mean, there was a number, I think a number of people went for it and whatever usual names
                                         
                                         throw it up, just name a white actor.
                                         
                                         That guy from Arrow.
                                         
    
                                         Yep.
                                         
                                         He was up for it.
                                         
                                         So there you go.
                                         
                                         But he was removed from the script.
                                         
                                         Oh, here we go.
                                         
                                         Channing Tatum was up for the role.
                                         
                                         He's apparently up for it right now.
                                         
                                         That's right.
                                         
    
                                         He's been working on his accents.
                                         
                                         That was when, I think I've mentioned this before, where Taylor Kitsch and him were going
                                         
                                         head to head for the same roles.
                                         
                                         That's right, yeah. And he won the Gambit role eventually, Taylor Kitsch and him were going head to head for the same roles. That's right, yeah.
                                         
                                         And he won the Gambit role eventually, Taylor Kitsch, but he won the wrong Gambit role.
                                         
                                         Do you think one day Taylor Kitsch and Channing Tatum will meet on the street and Channing
                                         
                                         Tatum will apologize for stealing his career?
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
    
                                         I hope so.
                                         
                                         Do you know...
                                         
                                         What else happened in X-Men 3?
                                         
                                         Anything interesting?
                                         
                                         The bridge bit was cool.
                                         
                                         Yep.
                                         
                                         That was apparently carried over from another movie though.
                                         
                                         That's right. From a previous movie. The casting? The bridge bit was cool. Yep. That was apparently carried over from another movie though. That's right.
                                         
    
                                         From a previous movie.
                                         
                                         The casting of Beast
                                         
                                         was great.
                                         
                                         That was actually
                                         
                                         the guy who directed
                                         
                                         First Class.
                                         
                                         What's his name?
                                         
                                         Oh, Matthew Vaughn.
                                         
    
                                         Matthew Vaughn.
                                         
                                         That was his casting choice.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         He also brought on
                                         
                                         Vinnie Jones as the Juggernaut.
                                         
                                         Ugh.
                                         
                                         Which is not as good.
                                         
                                         There's nothing wrong
                                         
    
                                         with Vinnie Jones.
                                         
                                         That is a very poorly... He looks like he's had some head injuries. I think there's something wrong with Vinnie Jones. That is a very poorly...
                                         
                                         He looks like he's had some head injuries.
                                         
                                         I think there's something wrong with Vinnie Jones.
                                         
                                         Well, yeah, probably.
                                         
                                         I mean, it's a casting choice.
                                         
                                         Listen, that juggernaut, that's a very poorly designed juggernaut.
                                         
                                         Yes, it is.
                                         
    
                                         I think, obviously, they have to...
                                         
                                         They wanted to keep X-Men in sort of a real-worldy kind of situation.
                                         
                                         They wanted everything to look...
                                         
                                         You know, they don't want him to be 10 feet tall.
                                         
                                         No.
                                         
                                         That would be ridiculous.
                                         
                                         That's it.
                                         
                                         Or however tall the juggernaut's supposed to be.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         So they had to make him just a weird buff-looking man.
                                         
                                         In a weird rubber muscle suit.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         No, it doesn't work at all.
                                         
                                         No.
                                         
                                         Don't like it.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         Well, this is...
                                         
                                         The plan was for this, though, they were going to cap off this trilogy
                                         
                                         and then kind of
                                         
                                         spin off like
                                         
                                         Star Wars movies
                                         
                                         and do like prequels
                                         
                                         and whatever
                                         
                                         and do all those
                                         
    
                                         origin movies
                                         
                                         Wolverine Origins
                                         
                                         obviously killed
                                         
                                         any chance of that
                                         
                                         like properly happening
                                         
                                         but as we've said before
                                         
                                         that's okay
                                         
                                         because we don't need
                                         
    
                                         origin movies for everybody
                                         
                                         have your spin off movies
                                         
                                         the Wolverine works
                                         
                                         infinitely better
                                         
                                         than Wolverine Origins for a thousand reasons.
                                         
                                         One of them being that you don't know
                                         
                                         where he's eventually going to end up.
                                         
                                         Right, exactly.
                                         
    
                                         Like you know in bloody that other one
                                         
                                         that I mentioned.
                                         
                                         I get so confused.
                                         
                                         And it's such a dumb title,
                                         
                                         X-Men Origins Wolverine.
                                         
                                         It's so hard to say and think about.
                                         
                                         What I disliked about X-Men 3
                                         
                                         is that there was so many generic...
                                         
    
                                         Truck flips.
                                         
                                         Truck flips.
                                         
                                         But a lot of...
                                         
                                         They love their truck flips.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         There were so many generic mutant villains, I thought.
                                         
                                         And there seemed to be a lot of combining.
                                         
                                         Yep.
                                         
    
                                         There was a character who I think had superhuman speed and pheromone powers or something.
                                         
                                         Oh, okay, yeah.
                                         
                                         There's a version of Callisto.
                                         
                                         Yeah, you're right.
                                         
                                         There was a character who could have been Psylocke,
                                         
                                         but maybe she wasn't Psylocke.
                                         
                                         The one in Spikes guy.
                                         
                                         Yeah, our favourite character.
                                         
    
                                         He's got the powers of, I can't remember who it is,
                                         
                                         but it's like a porcupine-style character.
                                         
                                         But his name, his actual name is the, you know,
                                         
                                         the X-Men student with the pink hair?
                                         
                                         Is that his name? That's his name. I name is the you know the X-Men student with the pink hair is that his name?
                                         
                                         that's his name I really explained that poorly
                                         
                                         but he's basically
                                         
                                         got the name of one
                                         
    
                                         and the powers of another
                                         
                                         right exactly
                                         
                                         or the look of another
                                         
                                         it's bizarre
                                         
                                         so yeah there were a few
                                         
                                         and I
                                         
                                         that reached the territory
                                         
                                         of kind of
                                         
    
                                         you know
                                         
                                         Transformers 2 and 3
                                         
                                         yeah
                                         
                                         where there's just a whole bunch
                                         
                                         of generic ones
                                         
                                         yeah
                                         
                                         there's a whole lot because remember in that final battle which is fine but there's a whole lot of tele there's just a whole bunch of generic ones. Yeah. There's a whole lot of...
                                         
                                         Because remember in that final battle,
                                         
    
                                         which is fine,
                                         
                                         but there's a whole lot of teleporters
                                         
                                         and a whole lot of...
                                         
                                         There's heaps of Nightcrawler teleporters.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Exactly, yeah.
                                         
                                         That's exactly it.
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah.
                                         
    
                                         I like to think of, you know,
                                         
                                         the X-Men universe,
                                         
                                         everybody's unique.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Isn't that kind of the point
                                         
                                         of those characters?
                                         
                                         That is exactly the point.
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah.
                                         
    
                                         I did like the appearance of Multiple Man.
                                         
                                         Yeah, that's good. Jamie Madrox. I kind of want... I did like the appearance of Multiple Man. Yeah, it was good.
                                         
                                         I would like to see a Multiple Man film.
                                         
                                         Featuring the same actor?
                                         
                                         He seemed very genial.
                                         
                                         Sure.
                                         
                                         Do you remember when all the good guys converge on the hundreds of people
                                         
                                         and they all just combine back into him?
                                         
    
                                         And he's like, hey! That's right of thing so he was you know yeah he was the happiest mutant
                                         
                                         around he sure was but i i really like that character yeah and he's got a lot of he he's
                                         
                                         had a couple of um there was a madrox uh ongoing series and a what was it called madrox the magician
                                         
                                         i was called i was x factor was X Factor. Okay.
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         And he was... I've seen that TV show.
                                         
                                         Yeah, exactly.
                                         
                                         But he was...
                                         
    
                                         He formed X Factor Investigations
                                         
                                         and he was like a one-man detective agency.
                                         
                                         Ah, cool.
                                         
                                         He was everyone.
                                         
                                         And he would also...
                                         
                                         Because what happens is
                                         
                                         he can split up into multiple people
                                         
                                         and when they combine back together,
                                         
    
                                         he retains all their memories.
                                         
                                         He gains all their memories.
                                         
                                         That's cool.
                                         
                                         So if he could send one off to spy,
                                         
                                         that version of him would come back
                                         
                                         and give him all the memories.
                                         
                                         But also what he would do is he would,
                                         
                                         at the beginning of the series,
                                         
    
                                         it revealed that he'd sent off copies of himself
                                         
                                         that had been gone for years
                                         
                                         and he'd had one go off and learn martial arts.
                                         
                                         Oh, that's awesome.
                                         
                                         And when that version came back,
                                         
                                         suddenly he's a black belt.
                                         
                                         That's amazing.
                                         
                                         That is amazing, right?
                                         
    
                                         There's a lot you can do with that.
                                         
                                         There's a lot you can do with that character.
                                         
                                         See, that's what I'm talking about.
                                         
                                         They did none of that.
                                         
                                         Yeah, exactly.
                                         
                                         Like a character with Toad,
                                         
                                         he's got limited powers,
                                         
                                         but he knows what he's doing with them.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         If a character spent their whole life with certain powers
                                         
                                         yeah
                                         
                                         they're gonna find
                                         
                                         some uses
                                         
                                         absolutely
                                         
                                         eventually right
                                         
                                         that's a really good point
                                         
    
                                         yeah
                                         
                                         you should make that movie
                                         
                                         I will
                                         
                                         I'll make a short film
                                         
                                         it'll be great
                                         
                                         it'll be terrible
                                         
                                         yeah
                                         
                                         cool
                                         
    
                                         X-Men 3
                                         
                                         do you wanna know
                                         
                                         how long
                                         
                                         I'm gonna say
                                         
                                         worst movie ever
                                         
                                         well I'm not finished
                                         
                                         I've got a bunch of stuff
                                         
                                         that could
                                         
    
                                         well this will probably
                                         
                                         build it right back up
                                         
                                         again for me
                                         
                                         well do you wanna talk
                                         
                                         oh no we'll come back
                                         
                                         to how he gets Professor X.
                                         
                                         Okay, yeah.
                                         
                                         But you know how long
                                         
    
                                         Cyclops is in this movie for?
                                         
                                         Is it like 12 minutes?
                                         
                                         4 minutes and 40 seconds.
                                         
                                         4 minutes and 40 seconds.
                                         
                                         I overestimated
                                         
                                         by quite a lot.
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         I mean,
                                         
    
                                         he obviously went to these
                                         
                                         He's such a towering presence
                                         
                                         that it seemed like
                                         
                                         three times as long.
                                         
                                         Absolutely.
                                         
                                         Like, he left
                                         
                                         to do Superman Returns.
                                         
                                         But he's a massive player in the Phoenix saga.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, absolutely.
                                         
                                         And not at all.
                                         
                                         It's another, again...
                                         
                                         I mean, I would say that's less of those involved's fault.
                                         
                                         Like, he left to do something else.
                                         
                                         But even if he was there,
                                         
                                         they would have given him fuck all to do it.
                                         
                                         Exactly, because they wanted...
                                         
    
                                         Because Wolverine's the main character, essentially.
                                         
                                         They want to give him the love interest also.
                                         
                                         Yeah, exactly.
                                         
                                         Exactly. You know, Matthew Vaughn actually dropped out because he didn't have enough time to make it. He's like, I can't make this film is the main character essentially they want to give him the love interest also yeah exactly exactly you know
                                         
                                         Matthew Vaughn
                                         
                                         actually dropped out
                                         
                                         because he didn't have
                                         
                                         enough time to make it
                                         
    
                                         he's like
                                         
                                         I can't make this film
                                         
                                         that I want to make
                                         
                                         because he had
                                         
                                         I think
                                         
                                         two years
                                         
                                         or less than two years
                                         
                                         but he had less time
                                         
    
                                         to do the X-Men
                                         
                                         first class movie
                                         
                                         and he nailed that
                                         
                                         and he fucking nailed it
                                         
                                         so I reckon
                                         
                                         he really would have
                                         
                                         done something amazing
                                         
                                         with that movie
                                         
    
                                         I think
                                         
                                         maybe it's just
                                         
                                         a passion issue.
                                         
                                         Like, maybe you don't want to do the second sequel in a series.
                                         
                                         You want to do a new thing.
                                         
                                         First Class is a new thing.
                                         
                                         And he did a new thing.
                                         
                                         Absolutely right.
                                         
    
                                         And First Class, you can sort of redefine the universe.
                                         
                                         X-Men 3, you can't.
                                         
                                         You're stuck with the same toys.
                                         
                                         Absolutely.
                                         
                                         Bryan Singer, actually, when he dropped out, Hugh Jackman recommended Darren Aronofsky,
                                         
                                         who nearly did The Wolverine.
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         Actually, he would have been okay, I guess.
                                         
    
                                         But Joss Whedon also turned it down to work on his Wonder Woman movie, which he was working
                                         
                                         on at the time.
                                         
                                         And I would have liked to have seen either of those movies.
                                         
                                         Absolutely, yeah.
                                         
                                         Rob Bowman was apparently approached.
                                         
                                         You know him?
                                         
                                         He did Elektra, Reign of Fire, X-Files.
                                         
                                         And he was approached.
                                         
    
                                         He was approached.
                                         
                                         He didn't show up at the Fox
                                         
                                         lot and was like
                                         
                                         hey can I get
                                         
                                         some more movies?
                                         
                                         What are you guys
                                         
                                         up to?
                                         
                                         This would have
                                         
    
                                         been after.
                                         
                                         And they just
                                         
                                         slowly closed the
                                         
                                         shutters and
                                         
                                         pretended they
                                         
                                         weren't home.
                                         
                                         I think he did
                                         
                                         Daredevil as well
                                         
    
                                         didn't he?
                                         
                                         Probably.
                                         
                                         But when he was
                                         
                                         approached that
                                         
                                         would have been
                                         
                                         before Electra
                                         
                                         came out.
                                         
                                         Also Reign of
                                         
    
                                         Fire is pretty
                                         
                                         awesome.
                                         
                                         I like Reign of
                                         
                                         Fire.
                                         
                                         X-Files movie is nothing.
                                         
                                         I don't remember.
                                         
                                         The first one was fine.
                                         
                                         I want to believe it's fine.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Clever.
                                         
                                         Alex Pai Projaz was approached.
                                         
                                         Did that from Dark City.
                                         
                                         Dark City, iRobot.
                                         
                                         He also did The Crow and Knowing with Nicolas Cage.
                                         
                                         Well, his star's taken a turn, hasn't it?
                                         
                                         Yeah, well, they were considered for the job, I should say.
                                         
    
                                         I said approached, but apparently it says considered.
                                         
                                         Zack Snyder was approached, but he was committed to 300,
                                         
                                         and Peter Berg was approached, but he turned down the job.
                                         
                                         He's done stuff, hasn't he?
                                         
                                         Sure has.
                                         
                                         He did Battleship, and that was Taylor Kitsch's finest work.
                                         
                                         Now, the reason they hired Brett Ratner is because they said he had experience making a successful film out of a rushed production, as he did for Rush Hour.
                                         
                                         That's not a pun.
                                         
    
                                         That is what...
                                         
                                         But it is how people get hired in Hollywood.
                                         
                                         That's exactly right.
                                         
                                         Mark Webb.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         For example.
                                         
                                         For exams.
                                         
                                         In 2009, this is very interesting, Bryan Singer admitted that he regretted...
                                         
    
                                         Bryan Singer directed The Wedding Singer.
                                         
                                         He admitted he regretted declining to direct this film
                                         
                                         in favour of Superman Returns.
                                         
                                         I also regret that.
                                         
                                         Confessing that he realised his mistake
                                         
                                         before I was watching the third X-Men film,
                                         
                                         during watching it, and after watching it.
                                         
                                         Wow.
                                         
    
                                         That's a real dig, isn't it?
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         So, yeah.
                                         
                                         I guess because he thought he was going to go away
                                         
                                         and make like the definitive Superman movie
                                         
                                         and he ballsed up Superman.
                                         
                                         Well, he made the definitively boring Superman movie.
                                         
                                         Ha ha!
                                         
    
                                         It's okay, that movie, but it's not great.
                                         
                                         I know, I've said it before.
                                         
                                         You love Superman Returns.
                                         
                                         No.
                                         
                                         Remember when he returns, though?
                                         
                                         Oh, yeah, good point.
                                         
                                         I love that movie.
                                         
                                         Bolivar Trask actually appears in it as well.
                                         
    
                                         Portrayed by...
                                         
                                         Any ideas?
                                         
                                         I can't remember.
                                         
                                         I think it's a black actor from Memora.
                                         
                                         Huh.
                                         
                                         So, yeah.
                                         
                                         So, no prize me out of that one, you jerk.
                                         
                                         Uh...
                                         
    
                                         Mutation.
                                         
                                         Do you remember?
                                         
                                         Yeah, I was...
                                         
                                         Remember that time the partnership became black for a while?
                                         
                                         Oh, yeah.
                                         
                                         What?
                                         
                                         How did that happen, though?
                                         
                                         Was it an experiment?
                                         
    
                                         No, he got...
                                         
                                         He was on the run,
                                         
                                         and I think his face had been cut to pieces by Jigsaw,
                                         
                                         who's his arch nemesis.
                                         
                                         Who's also...
                                         
                                         And then he went to a back alley plastic surgeon,
                                         
                                         and they're like,
                                         
                                         I'll fix you right up.
                                         
    
                                         Oh, by the way way i made you black
                                         
                                         right and then like but he was black and then but he had like he didn't look like he wasn't
                                         
                                         frank castle but he was black yeah like he had like like african-american features like and hair
                                         
                                         yeah like really close cropped hair okay right and Right. But he had like... Like his face had been altered.
                                         
                                         Like to have more like classically African American kind of features.
                                         
                                         And then he went and he did like ghetto crime fighting for a while.
                                         
                                         This was the 70s, right?
                                         
                                         No, this was the 90s.
                                         
    
                                         What?
                                         
                                         This was in the 90s.
                                         
                                         This was happening in the Punisher.
                                         
                                         Like when the Punisher was super popular.
                                         
                                         Anyway, the point is that he...
                                         
                                         Like they..., the story...
                                         
                                         Did he slang talk?
                                         
                                         I don't think so.
                                         
    
                                         That's a missed opportunity.
                                         
                                         That is a missed opportunity.
                                         
                                         But then, like, the storyline had to end
                                         
                                         because, you know, all great things had to end.
                                         
                                         So he had to become white again.
                                         
                                         But basically, so they just put in some lines
                                         
                                         about how this treatment was wearing off
                                         
                                         and so by the end like and then like they've got him the bad guys have got him cornered somewhere
                                         
    
                                         and the last bit of the treatment wears off and then he just busts out as a white punisher again
                                         
                                         right but his face has been altered yeah he should like he should look like an albino black guy
                                         
                                         but he didn't he was just the punisher again it made no sense if he did go back should he have
                                         
                                         had a real messed up face again as well?
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         There are a lot of things wrong with that.
                                         
                                         I thought he was going to say,
                                         
                                         if he went back, would he ever go black?
                                         
    
                                         Which doesn't make any sense.
                                         
                                         But yeah, let's not dwell.
                                         
                                         Everybody look that up.
                                         
                                         Everybody just Google that time the Punisher was black.
                                         
                                         There actually was a British version of the Punisher who was black,
                                         
                                         but he was an actual.
                                         
                                         See, that's all you need to do.
                                         
                                         You just got to swap him out.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         That's bizarre.
                                         
                                         Anyway, yeah.
                                         
                                         I guess that was also at the time where, like, they were afraid to swap someone out for somebody
                                         
                                         else.
                                         
                                         Correct.
                                         
                                         Permanently.
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah.
                                         
    
                                         But then Winter Soldier proved that you could do that, I guess.
                                         
                                         One more piece of trivia, Mason.
                                         
                                         Hugh Jackman, Halle Berry, and Vinnie Jones, they also acted together in Swordfish.
                                         
                                         Oh, they sure did, didn't they?
                                         
                                         I was just thinking about Swordfish today.
                                         
                                         Do you remember that was like when you'd get a VHS tape?
                                         
                                         Swordfish was like the trailer before for showing off the sweet features of a DVD.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         Because there was that explosion scene in it.
                                         
                                         I don't know if you remember.
                                         
                                         And everything spins around.
                                         
                                         Everything spins around.
                                         
                                         And the movie opens with that.
                                         
                                         And then it again happens like, I don't know, an hour or something in.
                                         
                                         But Swordfish isn't good.
                                         
                                         John Travolta's best wig, though.
                                         
    
                                         That's very true. Oh, it's a very sinister wig. That Swordfish isn't good. John Travolta's best wig, though. That's very true.
                                         
                                         It's a very sinister wig.
                                         
                                         That movie also is a film...
                                         
                                         John Travolta has an opening monologue
                                         
                                         at the start of Swordfish.
                                         
                                         I remember.
                                         
                                         Where he talks about the film Dog Day Afternoon.
                                         
                                         And it talks about how the media's effect
                                         
    
                                         on violence and stuff like that.
                                         
                                         And it makes it out like it's
                                         
                                         going to be a much cleverer film than it actually is and then it's just a just a terrible film and
                                         
                                         then they fly a bus in a helicopter they do fly a bus in a helicopter yeah yeah that's not a good
                                         
                                         movie no well mason i hate to say oh actually one more thing before we move on how does he get
                                         
                                         professor x'd oh he gets he gets turned to dust. Just Phoenix explodes him.
                                         
                                         Definitively Professor X'd.
                                         
                                         He got as Professor X'd as you can.
                                         
    
                                         As Jamie Kennedy might say, he got X'd.
                                         
                                         Is that what Jamie Kennedy says?
                                         
                                         I think he did. I think he used to say that, yeah.
                                         
                                         Great.
                                         
                                         But of course he does come back in the post-credits scene
                                         
                                         where he puts his mind into another guy's body or whatever.
                                         
                                         Which is apparently his brother or something?
                                         
                                         Yeah, his twin brother.
                                         
    
                                         But it didn't look anything like him, right?
                                         
                                         Well, he didn't really say it properly, but he had a beard.
                                         
                                         Right.
                                         
                                         Oh, I see.
                                         
                                         Well, it'd have to be, because how else is he going to come back for the new one anyway?
                                         
                                         He looks exactly the same.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Also.
                                         
    
                                         I think they're just going to gloss over it.
                                         
                                         They probably will.
                                         
                                         You're right.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Well, I reckon we'll get a bit of, there's no time.
                                         
                                         Now go back and time travel where
                                         
                                         there's plenty of time now most of i i hate to do this but i think we should do the remaining three
                                         
                                         x-men movies just x-men wolverine origins the wolverine and first class not in that order we'll
                                         
    
                                         do that next week i think okay because it's already we're already well over an hour okay
                                         
                                         let's not well over we're a little bit over it
                                         
                                         so next week
                                         
                                         we'll do Godzilla
                                         
                                         and we'll do those
                                         
                                         last three X-Men
                                         
                                         movies
                                         
                                         all together
                                         
    
                                         now
                                         
                                         great
                                         
                                         that was an
                                         
                                         Australian show
                                         
                                         alright
                                         
                                         do you remember
                                         
                                         that one
                                         
                                         no
                                         
    
                                         all together
                                         
                                         now
                                         
                                         oh yeah
                                         
                                         I do remember
                                         
                                         that yeah
                                         
                                         don't look it up
                                         
                                         anyway
                                         
                                         nobody look it up
                                         
    
                                         I've got all this
                                         
                                         sweet trivia though
                                         
                                         I'll just have to
                                         
                                         save it for next week
                                         
                                         save it for next week
                                         
                                         yeah
                                         
                                         alright
                                         
                                         well Mason
                                         
    
                                         before we go
                                         
                                         of course we've got
                                         
                                         a very famous segment we have to do what before we go of course we've got a very famous segment
                                         
                                         we have to do
                                         
                                         what are we reading
                                         
                                         what are we going to read
                                         
                                         yeah
                                         
                                         theme song
                                         
    
                                         I'm doing the theme
                                         
                                         what are we reading
                                         
                                         today
                                         
                                         great theme song
                                         
                                         great theme song
                                         
                                         now Mason
                                         
                                         Michael Little wrote in
                                         
                                         He reads a lot of comics and what not
                                         
    
                                         In particular non-superhero comics
                                         
                                         Somebody eventually is going to write in and say
                                         
                                         Hey Mason do you never actually think of something you were going to read?
                                         
                                         And just have to sort of
                                         
                                         You've already recommended Black Punisher
                                         
                                         Oh yeah that's a good one
                                         
                                         Guys read Black Punisher
                                         
                                         Guys read That Time The Punisher Was Black
                                         
    
                                         I don't know how many
                                         
                                         issues it was
                                         
                                         it was sometime
                                         
                                         in the 90s
                                         
                                         I hope it was called
                                         
                                         That Time the Punisher
                                         
                                         was Black
                                         
                                         that would be the best
                                         
    
                                         well Michael Little
                                         
                                         wants to know
                                         
                                         if you're going to
                                         
                                         start reading comic books
                                         
                                         superhero ones in particular
                                         
                                         where do you start
                                         
                                         and I picked an
                                         
                                         X-Men one to start with
                                         
    
                                         because this is an
                                         
                                         X-Men themed episode
                                         
                                         but just quickly
                                         
                                         before I get into that
                                         
                                         if you're going to
                                         
                                         read a Superman one
                                         
                                         read Superman Birthright
                                         
                                         I would say first
                                         
    
                                         that is good
                                         
                                         it's a good origin one
                                         
                                         are you saying
                                         
                                         read something that's
                                         
                                         now out of continuity
                                         
                                         absolutely
                                         
                                         it's a good origin story
                                         
                                         it's a standalone thing
                                         
    
                                         you don't need to know
                                         
                                         anything else
                                         
                                         oh this is somebody
                                         
                                         who's never read comics
                                         
                                         before
                                         
                                         if you're trying to
                                         
                                         introduce some comics
                                         
                                         yeah
                                         
    
                                         I'm trying to think
                                         
                                         what else
                                         
                                         which Batman
                                         
                                         would you introduce
                                         
                                         I'd say year one and then Long Halloween and then...
                                         
                                         What's the one after that?
                                         
                                         Dark Victory.
                                         
                                         Yeah, okay.
                                         
    
                                         That's...
                                         
                                         Yeah, good.
                                         
                                         Year One would be an excellent choice.
                                         
                                         I think the very first Grant Morrison Justice League.
                                         
                                         Absolutely.
                                         
                                         Four issues.
                                         
                                         That one's really good.
                                         
                                         Also, all the new 52 stuff is pretty much...
                                         
    
                                         It's a good jumping off point.
                                         
                                         You could easily pick up the new Batman.
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah. A lot of people will be like
                                         
                                         oh you should give
                                         
                                         somebody wants to read
                                         
                                         comic books
                                         
                                         superheroes
                                         
                                         give them Watchmen
                                         
    
                                         don't give them Watchmen
                                         
                                         no
                                         
                                         that's a bad idea
                                         
                                         no
                                         
                                         it's great
                                         
                                         it's great
                                         
                                         it's amazing
                                         
                                         but it's a deconstruction
                                         
    
                                         of the superhero genre
                                         
                                         and if you don't know
                                         
                                         what the superhero genre
                                         
                                         is about
                                         
                                         then it won't make any sense
                                         
                                         absolutely
                                         
                                         really good point
                                         
                                         also you should read
                                         
    
                                         Batman vs Predator
                                         
                                         read Batman vs Predator
                                         
                                         you laugh but it's amazing it is amazing just the first one though yeah Absolutely. Really good point. Also, you should read Batman vs. Predator. Read Batman vs. Predator.
                                         
                                         You laugh, but it's amazing. It is amazing.
                                         
                                         Just the first one, though.
                                         
                                         Yeah, absolutely.
                                         
                                         What about Superman vs. Aliens?
                                         
                                         Don't read that one.
                                         
    
                                         Not good.
                                         
                                         No.
                                         
                                         Not good.
                                         
                                         Iron Man Extremis.
                                         
                                         That's a good one.
                                         
                                         It was really good.
                                         
                                         You could probably read Wolverine.
                                         
                                         I really like Old Man Logan.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Because if you know anything about the Avengers, if you've seen the movies, you can follow
                                         
                                         along Old Man Logan. I guess that's true, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And if you've seen the X-Men movies. Logan. Yeah. Because if you know anything about the Avengers, if you've seen the movies, you can follow along Old Man Logan.
                                         
                                         I guess that's true, yeah.
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         And if you've seen the X-Men movies.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         But the X-Men book I want to read in particular,
                                         
                                         you got me onto this actually.
                                         
                                         I didn't read a lot of X-Men, but you...
                                         
                                         This sounds like something that I don't remember,
                                         
                                         but go ahead.
                                         
                                         You gave me a copy of Astonishing X-Men Volume 1,
                                         
                                         Gifted, that Joss Whedon wrote.
                                         
                                         It won awards and whatever at the time.
                                         
    
                                         It's from like 2003 or something like that.
                                         
                                         And it's basically, it's about the mutant cure,
                                         
                                         which is part of the X-Men 3 movie.
                                         
                                         And it's a return of a long lost character in the book.
                                         
                                         And it's a, without spoiling anything or whatever,
                                         
                                         it's a terrific read.
                                         
                                         And it's also a great introduction.
                                         
                                         It's kind of, it's kind of, it's not a reboot,
                                         
    
                                         but it's kind of a refreshed kind of take on the X-Men franchise.
                                         
                                         And they say, according to Wikipedia,
                                         
                                         that it is the best X-Men story for like 10 years prior to that.
                                         
                                         You've read that one, obviously.
                                         
                                         I'm glad I recommended it to you.
                                         
                                         So yeah, read X-Men Volume 1 Gifted
                                         
                                         and then Volumes 2, 3 and 4.
                                         
                                         I can't remember the names of them off the top of my head.
                                         
    
                                         Afterwards, they're all really, really good.
                                         
                                         More gifted.
                                         
                                         Heaps more gifted.
                                         
                                         Too gifted, too furious. Yeah. You got any X-Men to recommend in particular? the top of my head afterwards they're all really really good more gifted heaps more gifted too gifted
                                         
                                         too furious
                                         
                                         yeah
                                         
                                         you got any X-Men
                                         
                                         to recommend
                                         
    
                                         in particular
                                         
                                         I think you should read
                                         
                                         some of the old
                                         
                                         Chris Claremont
                                         
                                         X-Men ones
                                         
                                         from the 80s
                                         
                                         just to see
                                         
                                         how it was done
                                         
    
                                         back in the day
                                         
                                         you don't remember
                                         
                                         bearing in mind
                                         
                                         at the time
                                         
                                         great
                                         
                                         just that's all you're going to say
                                         
                                         not so much
                                         
                                         it was very much the era of explaining your powers as you use them
                                         
    
                                         there was a lot of thought bubbles
                                         
                                         I do
                                         
                                         vividly
                                         
                                         there you go
                                         
                                         now Mason I just want to give a
                                         
                                         as we move on from what are we going to read
                                         
                                         I invented this segment
                                         
                                         I can never get it right
                                         
    
                                         Kevin Eerley I always get his name wrong um you remember him
                                         
                                         and eddie were involved in the feud i do remember that future he is sent in a letter stepping down
                                         
                                         wow from the competition wow he actually he sent a letter wait is it a letter or is it a passive
                                         
                                         aggressive letter like hey if you want to keep this little thing going not at all it's quite
                                         
                                         amusing because he wrote in
                                         
                                         and I initially
                                         
                                         took his first email
                                         
                                         for those who don't know
                                         
    
                                         what we're talking about
                                         
                                         oh yeah sorry
                                         
                                         we've released
                                         
                                         a couple of audio commentaries
                                         
                                         for various
                                         
                                         two films so far
                                         
                                         yes
                                         
                                         theweeklyplanet.bandcamp.com
                                         
    
                                         there you go
                                         
                                         give those a listen
                                         
                                         X-Men
                                         
                                         wait sorry
                                         
                                         we're going to do that one
                                         
                                         yeah
                                         
                                         we're going to do
                                         
                                         X-Men First Class
                                         
    
                                         yeah we'll do it this week
                                         
                                         so hopefully we'll get that up this week
                                         
                                         yeah so we did Captain America First Avenger and we did Amazing Spider-Man.
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         And basically, two of our listeners have decided at some point to feud over how much to pay for those episodes.
                                         
                                         Yes, absolutely.
                                         
                                         Bearing in mind you can get them for free.
                                         
                                         Yes, absolutely.
                                         
    
                                         You definitely can.
                                         
                                         Because remember, Eddie kept saying for him to eat a bag of dicks and such.
                                         
                                         There's a lot of that going on.
                                         
                                         Anyway, he wrote an email and it was a very funny email, but I took it as, because I remember
                                         
                                         I read it at work and my guys kind of skimmed over it.
                                         
                                         And I took it as, oh, I've insulted this guy who's donated, which wasn't the case at all.
                                         
                                         And so then he wrote back, he goes, oh, no, whatever.
                                         
                                         Don't take offense. And now I feel like an idiot because I completely misread that. But he goes, oh no, whatever, don't take offense.
                                         
    
                                         And now I feel like an idiot because I completely misread that.
                                         
                                         But he did release this statement, Mason.
                                         
                                         Are you ready?
                                         
                                         Okay, here we go.
                                         
                                         Dear Weekly Planet, I would like to take this opportunity.
                                         
                                         Oh, this is from Kevin Eerley.
                                         
                                         Just Eerley.
                                         
                                         Fuck.
                                         
    
                                         This is from Kevin Eerley.
                                         
                                         Dear Weekly Planet, I would like to take this opportunity with great weight in my heart
                                         
                                         to admit defeat to Eddie.
                                         
                                         Oh, wow.
                                         
                                         When I undertook this campaign that I had no idea I was in,
                                         
                                         of being the best, I trained night and day.
                                         
                                         I didn't go to work.
                                         
                                         I spent every waking hour obsessing over how I could be the best,
                                         
    
                                         and with great regret, I lost.
                                         
                                         It is a little humbling to put everything you have into something,
                                         
                                         only to realize that you just aren't good enough.
                                         
                                         Little did I know I would come up against such a valiant competitor as Eddie,
                                         
                                         a man with skills above any other,
                                         
                                         with an apparent unending supply of dicks at his disposal,
                                         
                                         in which to prove his superiority.
                                         
                                         I had a dream that unfortunately has been crushed under the heel of a man
                                         
    
                                         who in many ways is just like Santa Claus,
                                         
                                         going from home to home with a sack over his shoulder,
                                         
                                         except in his case, his sack is filled with dicks instead of toys for kids.
                                         
                                         So exactly the same,
                                         
                                         but different.
                                         
                                         I would like to apologise
                                         
                                         to my parents for failing them
                                         
                                         as well as the listeners
                                         
    
                                         of the Weekly Planet,
                                         
                                         official podcast
                                         
                                         of comicbookmovie.com.
                                         
                                         Good plug.
                                         
                                         Ultimately,
                                         
                                         I blame Mason.
                                         
                                         Yeah, that's fair.
                                         
                                         Look, I...
                                         
    
                                         Well said.
                                         
                                         I think, you know,
                                         
                                         with that message of contrition,
                                         
                                         in many ways,
                                         
                                         Kevin is the winner.
                                         
                                         I mean, he's not, obviously.
                                         
                                         Eddie's the winner
                                         
                                         because of all the money.
                                         
    
                                         But, you know.
                                         
                                         I'd like to take this opportunity
                                         
                                         to say,
                                         
                                         I know, what a brilliant letter,
                                         
                                         to thank both Kevin and Eddie.
                                         
                                         Absolutely.
                                         
                                         And everybody who paid
                                         
                                         for the audio commentaries
                                         
    
                                         or just listen to them.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         I hope you guys can be best friends.
                                         
                                         We'll listen to this.
                                         
                                         We'll talk to me in real life.
                                         
                                         There's one more thing i'm going to
                                         
                                         mention based on jonathan boozer yeah the booze the booze great bloke we've talked about him before
                                         
                                         he transferred us 150 dollars what that's insane so i guess he's the winner oh there's no competition
                                         
    
                                         i just want to make this clear there's not please don't try to keep bettering each other but i just
                                         
                                         want to say what a legend he even prompted me because every time somebody sends me a big donation
                                         
                                         I like email them
                                         
                                         like is this a mistake
                                         
                                         yeah
                                         
                                         have you put the decimal
                                         
                                         place in the wrong spot
                                         
                                         did you mean to
                                         
    
                                         donate 15 cents
                                         
                                         so I um
                                         
                                         before he could
                                         
                                         he emailed me
                                         
                                         and he goes
                                         
                                         no this is a mistake
                                         
                                         don't worry about it
                                         
                                         so what a legend
                                         
    
                                         wow fantastic
                                         
                                         really appreciate it
                                         
                                         yeah amazing
                                         
                                         who knows what rivalry
                                         
                                         he'll get into Mason
                                         
                                         I hope it's with a gang yeah um Mason one more thing I'm ready this is a letter Wow, fantastic. Really appreciate it. Yeah, amazing. Who knows what rivalry he'll get into, Mason.
                                         
                                         I hope it's with a gang.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         Mason, one more thing.
                                         
                                         I'm ready.
                                         
                                         This is a letter from... Hang on, I've got to find the name,
                                         
                                         because I have made a mistake.
                                         
                                         Mistakes are free.
                                         
                                         Also, I appreciate that he sent that donation
                                         
                                         and he didn't require that you call me a dickhead
                                         
                                         or something like that,
                                         
    
                                         which is usually what most people require when they donate.
                                         
                                         So, fantastic.
                                         
                                         Rafael Gonzalez. So, fantastic. Rafael Gonzalez.
                                         
                                         Hi, guys.
                                         
                                         Big fan and have been listening since the beginning.
                                         
                                         So, he's been through that wild ride of varying audio quality since day one.
                                         
                                         My wife just gave birth to a healthy baby girl.
                                         
                                         Love it.
                                         
    
                                         Wow.
                                         
                                         Congratulations.
                                         
                                         That's the second official baby of comicbookmovie.com, Mason.
                                         
                                         Wow.
                                         
                                         Congratulations.
                                         
                                         You call it?
                                         
                                         Yeah, absolutely.
                                         
                                         We've named her...
                                         
    
                                         I can't really claim this baby for that, can I?
                                         
                                         It's a bit presumptuous, but yeah.
                                         
                                         Do it anyway.
                                         
                                         We've named her Catherine...
                                         
                                         Catherine...
                                         
                                         Give me the...
                                         
                                         It's a lame name.
                                         
                                         Go for it.
                                         
    
                                         Read it.
                                         
                                         Yeah, Catherine Christopher.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Wow, okay.
                                         
                                         In honour of my favorite Superman
                                         
                                         Christopher Reeve is the
                                         
                                         best that is amazing I
                                         
                                         know right would love a
                                         
    
                                         shout out to my wife and
                                         
                                         I and a newest comic
                                         
                                         book movie fan shout
                                         
                                         out and as a native
                                         
                                         New Yorker I love your
                                         
                                         NYC accents forget about
                                         
                                         it he's written lol here
                                         
                                         I think maybe he's
                                         
    
                                         being sarcastic but I'm
                                         
                                         taking it as genuine
                                         
                                         absolutely what a legend so Mason it's been it's been a what a but I'm taking it as genuine. Absolutely.
                                         
                                         What a legend.
                                         
                                         So, Mason, it's been what a week.
                                         
                                         I'm sorry we didn't get through all the X-Men movies.
                                         
                                         I realised going through this that this was going to take up many hours.
                                         
                                         And people don't need that.
                                         
    
                                         They've got stuff to do.
                                         
                                         So, yeah, as I said, next week, Godzilla.
                                         
                                         We're going to see it this week.
                                         
                                         Reviews are coming in.
                                         
                                         Do you want to hear what they're saying so far?
                                         
                                         Are they saying mediocre?
                                         
                                         They're saying it's okay. Great. They're saying not enough Godzilla. We're going to see it this week. Reviews are coming in. Do you want to hear what they're saying so far? Are they saying mediocre? They're saying it's okay.
                                         
                                         Great.
                                         
    
                                         They're saying not enough Godzilla.
                                         
                                         Uh-huh.
                                         
                                         So people are never going to be happy.
                                         
                                         Are they saying too much Bryan Cranston?
                                         
                                         No one has ever said that.
                                         
                                         Correct.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Not even Bryan Cranston.
                                         
    
                                         Maybe his wife, if you know what I mean.
                                         
                                         A little too much Bryan Cranston.
                                         
                                         So yeah, they're like, there's too much emphasis on human characters or whatever.
                                         
                                         There probably is, I guess.
                                         
                                         I don't know.
                                         
                                         Well, we'll find out this week.
                                         
                                         They've got to strike that balance.
                                         
                                         Because realistically...
                                         
    
                                         There are no giant lizards.
                                         
                                         Well, that's true.
                                         
                                         I mean, we want just two hours of a giant lizard destroying the city.
                                         
                                         Or do we?
                                         
                                         That's right.
                                         
                                         Exactly.
                                         
                                         Some people said there were too many fights in Pacific Rim.
                                         
                                         Some would say we'll never be happy with a Godzilla film.
                                         
    
                                         Well, he is too fat.
                                         
                                         He is pretty fat.
                                         
                                         As the Japanese have said.
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         So I guess that's the show for this week, Mason.
                                         
                                         Fantastic.
                                         
                                         Anything you want to plug before you go?
                                         
                                         No.
                                         
    
                                         Do I ever have anything to plug?
                                         
                                         Yeah, you know.
                                         
                                         You're like, you've got a thing on.
                                         
                                         You're a bad...
                                         
                                         No, this week I don't have any things on.
                                         
                                         Cool.
                                         
                                         Find me on Twitter at WikipediaBrown.
                                         
                                         Absolutely.
                                         
    
                                         At reply at me.
                                         
                                         And I will at reply at you.
                                         
                                         Ask him all sorts of questions.
                                         
                                         Yeah, please do.
                                         
                                         Questions you could easily look up on the internet.
                                         
                                         But instead direct them at Mason.
                                         
                                         At me, please.
                                         
                                         I'll put a delightful spin on them in 140 characters or less.
                                         
    
                                         Absolutely.
                                         
                                         I'm not good at Twitter.
                                         
                                         You're pretty good at Twitter.
                                         
                                         I don't feel I'm good at it.
                                         
                                         You've mastered it.
                                         
                                         Well done.
                                         
                                         Thank you.
                                         
                                         You can find me at MrSundayMovies on Twitter, Facebook and YouTube now.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         And you can find us both at Weekly Planet Pod on Gmail, Facebook, Twitter also.
                                         
                                         We've got so many social media contact details.
                                         
                                         You know it.
                                         
                                         Come subscribe to the YouTube channel if you want to.
                                         
                                         We should.
                                         
                                         Pinterest?
                                         
                                         What happens on that?
                                         
    
                                         You just pin things.
                                         
                                         Like?
                                         
                                         Voodoo dolls. Yeah. It's a voodoo doll based social media. And like frogs that you just pin things like voodoo dolls
                                         
                                         yeah
                                         
                                         it's a voodoo doll based
                                         
                                         social media
                                         
                                         and like frogs
                                         
                                         that you're dissecting
                                         
    
                                         yeah absolutely
                                         
                                         all those things
                                         
                                         great
                                         
                                         well Mason
                                         
                                         have a good week
                                         
                                         toads
                                         
                                         so we were talking
                                         
                                         about toads
                                         
    
                                         good work
                                         
                                         great
                                         
                                         well done
                                         
                                         you looking forward
                                         
                                         to X-Men this week
                                         
                                         yes
                                         
                                         it's going to be great
                                         
                                         we're going to meet
                                         
    
                                         Hugh Jackman
                                         
                                         we're not
                                         
                                         remind me it's going
                                         
                                         to happen
                                         
                                         because I'll forget
                                         
                                         okay okay fantastic I'll shoot you an e- me it's gonna happen because I'll forget okay
                                         
                                         okay fantastic
                                         
                                         I'll shoot you a e-vite
                                         
    
                                         okay maybe this one
                                         
                                         I'll pin interest you
                                         
                                         thank you
                                         
                                         maybe
                                         
                                         maybe this will be the one
                                         
                                         where I pretend
                                         
                                         that I haven't
                                         
                                         that I've seen it
                                         
    
                                         but I actually haven't seen it
                                         
                                         despite the fact that
                                         
                                         I'll be sitting next to you
                                         
                                         in the cinema
                                         
                                         like you'll turn around
                                         
                                         and I'll just be like
                                         
                                         I'll just be some blankets
                                         
                                         and pillows tied together
                                         
    
                                         I would love that.
                                         
                                         All right.
                                         
                                         Thanks, guys.
                                         
                                         Thanks, guys.
                                         
                                         Bye.
                                         
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