The Weekly Planet - 332 Extraction! Chris Hemsworth!

Episode Date: April 27, 2020

Help support the show at https://patreon.com/mrsundaymovies for early videos, choosing topics and more!Extraction! The new Chris Hemsworth movie to Netflix is what we talk about! Plus more new movie dates for Spider-Man, The Batman and more, Star Wars news, Westworld Season 4, One Punch Man live action, The Saint, Hunger Games as a prequel plus Tenet still coming to theatres real soon. Thanks for watching!Prime Mates: https://bit.ly/2KBEsaJSuggestible Podcast: https://aca.st/cf053a0:00 The Start4:25 Venom let There Be Carnage10:29 New dates for The Batman, Spider-Man etc12:43 STAR WARS NEWS15:20 Westworld Season 4 is a go16:37 One Punch Man but a movie21:35 Scoob coming to streaming22:52 Chris Pine is The Saint29:03 Hungers Games prequel movie33:08 Tenet still coming to theatres34:32 Extraction! (45:56 - 56:17)56:17 What We Reading/What We Gonna Read1:07:53 Letters It’s Time For LettersJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP Itunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 TWP Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanet TWP YouTube Channel ► https://goo.gl/1ZQFGH Amazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2QbmwGjT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday. With me as always is my co-host Nick Mason. Good, I like that. They're really adding some dynamism to the intro there. We need that. Don't you think

we're lacking something in this show? Do you think that people are turning off because they're sick of our shit? I mean, yes, obviously, but I figured that was like an endless cycle. People would leave in droves and we'd get a trickle of new listeners. Yeah, right. Because people would be throwing down their phones in disgust

and being like, I'm sick of this Weekly Planet podcast. And then another person would be like, Weekly Planet podcast? That sounds like some sort of weird conspiracy theory National Enquirer podcast. I'll give that a listen, right? And then we got them. And we got that one person, yeah. Are they picking up the phone? Like it's in a puddle?

And they're like, hmm, this is for me. No, because nobody's outside. Oh, you know what? I haven't fact-check in some people are outside yeah yeah marching around that's right do it fight the good fight on the good fight exactly yes just to be clear i do not believe they are fighting the good fight listen hey uh for the past month or so behind the scenes oh yes we've been uh collected well not us we've got somebody to build us a subscription service that's right for uh for this podcast and the youtube channel and and that kind of thing the idea being that the sponsorship is uh we have we

have lost a lot of sponsors because of this pandemic thing and it's also your youtube revenue is fine right no my youtube revenue is nearly half mason yeah i was trying to i was trying to be positive towards you and then i remember we had that exact conversation yeah so look and it's not it's certainly not dire but this this is something we'd be playing because it's similar to what the Sandspans guys are doing. It's actually the same guy who's building it. And the idea is that we're not going to take anything away that people get through Patreon or just this.

In fact, we're adding something. We're adding the dumbest idea I've ever had, which we'll explain maybe when it's up and running. Exactly. I've thought of a new podcast. It's a little bonus little something. Just 25, 30 minutes. We're going to do a bonus every week or couple of weeks depending but the idea is look if if this is something you're interested in we're just kind of gauging interest it's all

optional and again the stuff that you're already getting like this the podcast but also things like because we also have ads that are inserted which aren't us into the podcast which are not affected but we'll take those out oh yeah cool yeah, cool. But also with an additional podcast, which also sounds like we're making you pay for a thing that we added, which is why also we added the extra podcast and some other early stuff and whatever. So what do people want to see? Early stuff.

Yeah, so do people want... Do you have, like, hidden recordings of me from years ago being like, this podcast thing will never fly? You'll never do anything with your life, James, or me. You're attacking yourself. But we'd really like to know what things people kind of want to see if this is something they're interested in. Again, completely optional.

You don't have to. And the other thing is like movie commentaries or whatever and things like that. They'll all be up on the one page, right? Yeah, that's the idea. So look, additional ones, I'm saying also. Oh, yeah, cool. But again, that won't take away from the way that we used to do it also.

It'll be like an additional thing. Anyway, I just thought we'd throw that out there because we're currently putting that together. Again, entirely optional. I keep saying that, I know, but I feel like... The fact that you keep saying it's entirely optional is starting to make me suspicious that it isn't entirely optional. Well, what we'll do, it won't be optional,

but then eventually two weeks in it will be completely mandatory. Oh, you're good. So yeah, whether or not do, it won't be optional, but then eventually, two weeks in, it'll be completely mandatory. Oh, you're good. So, yeah. Whether or not you listen to the show or not, you have to sign up for it. That's right. It's like a pyramid scheme.

If you sign up somebody, and then, you know, then the money trickles back and whatever. It's going to be like the movie The Ring. Yeah. If you listen to our podcast,

you will die in seven days, but if you sign someone else up to our optional subscription service, you will live. Yeah, that's right. That's how it works. So if you could just spread it around our our optional subscription service you will live yeah that's right so that's how it works if you could just just spread it around yeah so look uh email in uh weeklypanetpot.gmail.com or hit us up on twitter if there's something in particular you'd like to see but again mason has thought of a very fun idea which would be uh hashing out or he's been hashing out i should say i have very little to do with it so if it goes badly you know you're

on it yeah i should say no i really it. No, I really like it. I think people will really enjoy it. Anyway, again, we want to kind of move away from having to rely specifically on YouTube and sponsorship because there's also people we have to pay, obviously, and including ourselves. So we kind of want to build something independent of that. Venom. Remember that movie? What?

I didn't know there was going to be Venom. Venom 2. I didn't know there was going to be Venom news this week. Oh, it's big Venom. Didn't you hear the title? didn't know there was going to be Venom. Venom 2. I didn't know there was going to be Venom news this week. Oh, it's big Venom. Didn't you hear the title? First of all, it's been pushed to 2021. Oh, it's a bunch of carnage out here or something. Yeah, that's right.

There's a bunch of carnage out here. It's called Let There Be Carnage. Okay, wow. What do you think? I hate it. Sounds bad. Yeah, but what do you expect? Is that what Carnage said at the end of the last one?

I think he said there's going to be some carnage in the next movie. Oh, yeah. I mean, what he harrassed it. Which is this movie next movie. Oh, yeah. Me and Woody Harrelson. Which is this movie. Yes. If you're reading this now. That's right. So the date has also been pushed to 2021.

It was supposed to be later this year, I believe. So who knows when we're getting the trailer for that or anything else. Tom Hardy also posted a picture to his Instagram, like I presume it was a fan art,

but of Venom eating Spider-Man. So people are like, oh, I think there's more than likely now that Spider-Man is going to be worked into the Venom franchise. Speaking of fan art, did you see this week, a few people sent it to us, Boss Logic, famous fan art guy. Fan artist. And regular artist. He's also a regular artist, that's true.

He did, I think it might be some old art that he's put up again. It was Captain America versus Lucas Lee, which is a match-up we did in the last weeks. That's right, exactly. Superhero Showdown. I think it's just a coincidence. Oh, no, it definitely is. It's definitely a coincidence.

Well, I know that directors hit him up, or creators be like, I just want to... You know the guy who directed Kong Skull Island? Jordan Vogt something? Vogt Roberts? Yes, that's right. He asked him,

can you just mock me up like an Oscar Isaac as Snake because he's doing this Metal Gear Solid movie, or he was. Who knows what's happening. So, yeah, he does a lot of work like that as well. That's a service that wouldn't have been provided 20 years ago because they'd be like, hey, I'm going to do a Metal Gear Solid movie. Who's Oscar Isaac? They'd say.

He's not even out of drama school they'd say hey can you mock up just the most generic man in black leather because that's what the character is going to look like in this movie because we're not going to commit to anything you're not wrong hey we're going to do an x-men movie can you mock up Hugh Jackman just in a black costume just a black black suit that's yeah you're not wrong so yeah what a world we live in though where you know I think a lot of the times, like, there is fan art and fan suggestions and Reddit threads. Would you say there's carnage out there?

Mate, let there be carnage. That's what I say. Do you? In the movie Carnage. Oh, okay, right. Because that would seem irresponsible in real life. You just say let there be carnage. Do you think it's going to, like, on the third one it'll be like,

and now there's toxin or whatever the next one is. Yep, and now there's Venom 3 and now there's Toxin. It's another one. This one's green maybe. Yeah, they do get less interesting, the symbiotes, as they kind of spin off, don't they? Yes, they do. Yeah.

It's like mash and after mash. Now in the comic books there's also a symbiote god. Oh, okay. Because they've got their own civilization. Yeah, right. Yeah, yeah. I kind of feel it's made the whole thing less interesting. But what can you do?

I'm not in charge of any of this. I do like the idea that... If I was, I'd be against it. Yes. And you'd mock up some fan art, wouldn't you? That's right. I do like the idea that Venom... It's fan art of Venom going,

boy, it's a shame my whole civilization is destroyed. There's no more of us. And that's the end of that. No, I like the idea that Venom is pretty standard among his race. Oh, he's the end of that no i like the idea that venom is pretty standard among his like race oh he's not even that interesting yeah i like that i think that's interesting you know but anyway have you said you know did you watch star trek deep space nine no i don't know one of the characters yeah that's fair one of the characters in that odo he's like the security chief on the space station yeah and he's a shapeshifter and he's like the least good

of all the shapeshifters like he's got when he's first introduced he's he sorthifter and he's like the least good of all the shapeshifters. Like he's got, when he's first introduced, he's sort of got kind of like very sort of generic puffy features. But all the other ones are way better at him than, way better than him at shapeshifting. So we don't meet him until, you know, several seasons later, but they're like, why are you so bad at this? Why are you the least interesting one? Because this guy, like, is that what he looks like

in real life no they're like we don't really like this the way this actor looks and we're gonna make fun of it wow well he's dead now so okay well then so hopefully it's not that there's a similar character in uh the orville like the security chief i think she leaves the show but she's like super strong for a humanoid but among her people they're from like a heavy gravity planet all right and it doesn't like she's like standard among, but among her people. They're from a heavy gravity planet. Oh, right. And she's standard among her people. I guess maybe that's a pretty standard trope, I guess, in Star Trek. For a long time, like Deanna Troi in Next Generation, she's an empath, whereas the rest of her race are telepaths.

Yeah, right. So she can just be like... So she's not human. She's half human and half beta zoid okay yeah so half beetleborg yeah half beetle borg you remember the beetle borgs vaguely yeah good anyway so go on so she's half half so she's half beyblade she's half blade beyblade half digimon so she has more power but she's also got whatever ability the beetle borgs have. Yes. I'll Google it. But they're all telepathic, but she can only be like, this man seems angry. This man approaching us with a sword.

Yeah. With a scowl on his face. Yes, exactly. They're like a Power Rangers knockoff kind of thing. Yeah, right. Okay. And Spock, famously half Vulcan, half human. Yes.

Very famous. Yeah. The most famous one, probably. Probably. Yeah. So in other news, probably. Probably, yeah. So in other news, the Batman has been pushed from... Is Worf half Klingon? I don't know. I mean, he's definitely at least half Klingon.

I think he's full Klingon, isn't he? There you go. I don't know. People will tell us. But he's always like, if you weren't the captain, I'd tear you apart because of honour. And then Picard's like, but you're not. Yeah.

He's like, ah, nuts. Nuts to you. A cling on equivalent of nuts. Yeah. Is the Doctor half human? The Doctor. Only in the telly movie. Yeah, he is, isn't he?

But that, people, haven't people also, we're talking about Doctor Who. That's right, yeah. But haven't also people retconned that? Doctor Who, the main character of Doctor Who, yes. Haven't people retconned that to be that that particular incarnation is half human. Because there's also,

remember when David Tennant, Doctor Who, there's two versions of that. Oh, that's right. Because one regenerated from a human hand, so he's like a human version of the Doctor. Oh, right, right, right. I don't know whether that actually turns out to be true, but it doesn't matter.

Absolutely doesn't matter, yeah. Just nice to think about, though, isn't it? It's lovely to think about things. Yeah. The Batman has been pushed from june 2021 to october 2021 shazam from may to november 2022 these dates are constantly moving i was we were talking about this before the show so i'm just gonna stop doing this because it's you were like i'm gonna move the moving the dates thing to up top of the show and i'm like why to get rid of it oh yeah cool i don't have to talk about it. The Flash from July 2021 to June of 2021.

They moved that up bold. Yeah. Yeah. Spider-Man got moved, which we suspected it would be because it was in the middle of a Marvel slate that got moved because it's only property from July to November. And Thor 4 got moved up one week to February 11, 2022. And a bunch of other stuff moved, like Uncharted got pushed back.

And there's a Dungeons & Dragons movie that may or may not have been worked on at the moment who's to say it's dungeons and dragons where's gambit where's what's the status of gambit i don't know nothing about gambit yeah could we make up some wild rumors maybe we could call gambit's mom and see if he can gambit could come out and play okay cool is gambit is he grounded at the moment he might be grounded yeah okay cool at least he's got his Sega Master System to play. Yeah. Who do you think Gambit is? A kid from the 90s.

Oh, yeah, okay. That makes a lot of sense, yeah. Star Wars news. He leapt into a pool and he wrecked his Hypercolor T-shirt. He would, wouldn't he? Yeah. Actually, before we get to Star Wars news, your favorite thing. I'm sure we've talked about this.

With Dungeons & Dragons, I'm sure we have actually now I think about it. You've got to go more specific than general Dungeons & Dragons now, don't you? I think you do. Because then it's generic fantasy stuff. You know it's a dragon and it's a castle and it's a mage or whatever. I feel you've either got two options and it's use an established Dungeons and Dragons fantasy setting like

Forgotten Realms or Ravenloft or Dragonlance or Greyhawk or Dark Sun or... You know a lot about this. I've run out of points, Gabe. I'm genuinely impressed by this. Spelljammer. I don't know how many of these still exist, though.

They all exist. Yeah, I know, but a lot of them have been discontinued, I think. But people can play whatever they want, can't they? That is true, yeah. Look, you've either got to do that or you've got to build a fantasy realm maybe that takes elements of any of those and just make it distinct enough that it isn't just literally the Dungeons and the Dragons.

Yeah, that's right. And it's four people on a quest or whatever, which I guess is Dungeons and Dragons. Anyway, it's just a thought. In Star Wars news. Oh, yes. There's a new Star Wars. You know what?

At this point, I don't even mind the fact that there's Star Wars news. Just any news. Just any news at all, yeah. Right. I hear there's big rumblings in the Clone Wars in the last couple of weeks. Oh, yeah, there is. I've got to watch some of that. Okay.

Catch up on the nearly zero episodes I've watched. But Variety have learned from their sources that there's a new series from Leslie Hedlund. The exact plot is being kept under wraps, but it's said to be a female-centric series that takes place in a different part of the Star Wars timeline. Leslie Headland, of course, did Russian Doll. Yes, that's right.

Which is really exciting. The other thing, Mandalorian Season 3 has already started production. No surprises there. But we haven't even had Mandalorian Season 2. I know, but you have to get it ready because I think that's already mostly filmed, and they can film it indoors or whatever because it's just in front of big screens and whatever. Mandalorian is the most apt TV series to be filmed indoors with no one else.

Yes, that's right. It's just CGI and whatever you want. Just put somebody in a room where the backgrounds are being animated live. A spinning ship. Spinning ship, exactly. Exactly. You've got your puppeteers that are standing really far away because they're puppeteering. It's fine.

And Cassie and Andor. Mandalorian's wearing a helmet. Yeah. Who's under there? Nobody. It's just a broom. There's nobody even on set. So Cassie and Andor is also set five years before the TV series,

the movie. And Genevieve O'Reilly is said to be returning as Mon Mothma. She's a good Mon Mothma. She might be my second favorite to favourite Mon Mothma. Of the two Mon Mothmas. Yeah. She is a good Mon Mothma. Do you doubt how good of a Mon Mothma she is?

I enjoy saying the name Mon Mothma. Yeah. And you don't care who's wearing the Mon Mothma cloak. That's right, exactly. Yes. Very interesting. Isn't it though? Yeah.

And that's all the Star Wars news we have for this week. How do you think they're going to play Cassian and Andor? I did. Sorry, start again. I was going to say, how do you think we're going to see Cassian and Andor portrayed? I think he's supposed to be more his kind of dark past kind of thing. Because we didn't really get a lot of that in Rogue One, did we? He shot that one guy.

Yeah, but a lot of people now, I don't know if you noticed, have taken to Twitter to live stream their movies and be like, James Gunn is like, this is Guardians of the Galaxy. And some people who worked on Rogue One did the same thing. And they're talking about how part of his history originally was that he was a double agent and he was working for the Empire. And then he comes good. He's like, I just want to help now because there's a Death Star. But it's also implied that he's shot a lot of people because that one dude he shot. So I think we're going to be getting that side of him.

He's doing secret agent stuff, but bad stuff because he's a bad dude. But he's doing it further because he doesn't like the Death Star. Yep. Good solid. Are you mad? Yeah, I get it. Yeah, good. Westworld Season 4 has been renewed for Season 4.

I know, but Season 3 hasn't even finished yet, has it, Mason? Yeah, I know, but I mean they they've filmed and released many of those episodes james have you been watching it do you not know how hollywood works i know i'm behind it's great yep keep watching it okay and they're out of the west world yeah which i like yeah they're in the regular world yeah it's good that's right normal world they should have called it regular world season one yep yeah i've been really enjoying it and there's the less kind of twists and turns and time dilation-y stuff and like what's happening when.

Which some people think has kind of taken some of the fun out of it, but I like it. It's just like, this week this happens and the next week this happens. Oh, that sounds fun. And it's interesting, it's like Dolores' plan unfolding for kind of world domination and how she's doing it and who she's using and who's a robot and who not be a robot. Does she have time to pop down to the deed poll office and change your name from Dolores

to any other name? She can be whoever. I mean, you got to change it. She'll just tie her hair up in a bun and like walk into a security complex and go, don't worry, I've shut down all the cameras because I'm a robot. Don't tell anyone. You haven't been watching it, but that's how it works. Pretty much every episode.

Wow. And there's a big mech. Yeah, no, I know. The big mech got more play. You've got to watch it. I will. Yeah, all right. How much faith do you have in live action anime?

Oh, that's a really good question. Obviously. Level with me here, James. What did you feel about, how did you feel about Ghost in the Shell? It's fine. No, fine to average. Yeah. It's flat visually.

I can't really remember. Exactly. Which I think is a bad average. Yeah. It's flat visually. I can't really remember. Exactly. Which I think is a bad sign. Yeah. I remember it being quite kind of stylish in that kind of blade runner way. But it wasn't because it was quite grey. Yeah. Because you're thinking because Blade Runner came out not that long after.

I think that's what you might be thinking of. Because I remember after when I saw Blade Runner, I'm like, this is what I thought Ghost in the Shell was going to look like because I was really looking forward to the mech fight

and it was just kind of whatever that's the best mech fight so anyway what's this live action anime adaptation that's going to be happening Sony

and Avi Arad of Avi Arad Productions who you might know of Spider-Man Spider-Man ruining some Spider-Man yep One Punch Man.

All right. Who are they going to get? Tobey Maguire. Blank face. Completely blank. Expressionless. That's true, yeah. Shave his head, you'd never know.

But don't get him. Get someone else. But will they get The Rock? You can't get someone The Rock. They will get The Rock. That's what I'm saying. They'd have to get someone like, I'm trying to think of someone.

Who's someone who looks like a normal man, but Hollywood? Matthew McConaughey. Danny Pudi of Community? That's not bad, actually. I like that, yeah. See, the problem is that. He might be too thin, though. I mean, he can work out.

The whole point of One Punch Man, as we know, is he's a completely average man who began quite a moderate training regime and somehow became the strongest, most powerful man in the world through that. And now he is so powerful that he can defeat any enemy in one punch, as the name. And the idea behind him is that he looks completely unassuming. That's why so many people come at him.

Yes. And it's so overconfident. Or don't realise that he's the one who's done. But I feel like Hollywood fundamentally would misunderstand that. Yeah, especially... Or they'd be like, people don't... People will not... After so many years of The Rock being this guy...

Yeah. People will not go and see a movie where there is a man who is so unassuming but also so undefeatable. You know what I mean? Yeah, but I guess... Yeah, it'd be that mistake not go and see a movie where there is a man who is so unassuming but also so undefeatable you know what i mean yeah but i guess yeah it'd be that mistake like when they cast the rock in that new big trouble in the china movie right because it's like well that's not the point of that character no it's so a rat run out behind you not a joke i know at a gun harsh times it's a bad neighborhood

yeah that's why my dog's always barking at that thing yeah okay uh so yeah what did you say i was I know. At a gun. Harsh times. It's a bad neighbourhood, yeah. That's why my dog's always barking at that thing. Yeah, okay. So, yeah, what did you say? I was looking at the rat. It was like the ending of The Departed. It just happened behind you just there. Lousy rat.

I was saying that I think Hollywood fundamentally would misunderstand the point of One Punch Man. Yeah, right. He looks so unassuming and beyond average. Oh, okay. So someone has actually mocked up. Of course they have. This, the exact thing that you said. Who's this? Oh, it's Kevin Hart.

Kevin Hart and The Rock. As a cyborg friend. Yeah. Right, okay. No, thank you. Please. So anyway, but the people who are working on it, Scott Rosenberg and Jeff Pinkner,

who are writing it, they wrote the Venom movies, including Let There Be Venom, Carnage. Okay are working on it, Scott Rosenberg and Jeff Pinkner, who are writing it, they wrote the Venom movies, including Let There Be Venom, Carnage. Okay, sure, yeah, yeah. But they also did the Jumanjis. And I feel like the Jumanjis... So it's The Rock. So it's The Rock, you were right. So it's The Rock, it's The Rock.

But I feel like also the Jumanjis have that kind of fun, kind of wacky spirit. Yes. What are the chances that this will be better? Yeah. I mean I mean they could have A Japanese American cast

They could do that Yeah That would be a wild That would be a wild swing I'm going to stop you there Yes Oh Alright bye everyone

Alright average Average men in Hollywood Yeah What about Barry's friend in Barry I don't remember I'm not up to date on Barry Season 1 or season 2

Henry Winkler No The guy And he's like he's like a mobster. You know the guy? He's bald, and he's got no hair. Oh, yeah, Anthony Carrigan. Yes. Yeah, I don't know. I don't think naturally bald is necessarily the way to go.

Okay. Yeah. All right. So it'll be Statham. I mean, he's naturally bald. He's too mean. What about Zach Braff with a shaved head? Absolutely not, no.

No, no, he's too busy with his podcast. He is. Where he recaps episodes of Scrubs. That's true, yeah. I don't know. Maybe people could write in. I would see Danny Pudi. Yeah, me too.

He's got that kind of face for it, actually. Yeah. What about a Tobey Maguire, though? Genuinely. I don't like him. Apparently he's awful. And would you see a movie with him as One Punch Man? Yeah, I'd see a One Punch Man movie regardless.

Do you think he and Avi Arad are on good terms? Probably. But who knows? Do you think Avi Arad has any friends outside of making money? I know nothing about Avi Arad. Honestly, I don't even know how to pronounce his name correctly. No, you're nailing it. Am I? Thank you. Yeah, you should be his friend. You could be One Punch Man. I, I don't even know how to pronounce his name correctly. No, you're nailing it. Am I? Thank you. Yeah. You should be his friend.

You could be One Punch Man. I could, couldn't I? Yeah. So what else we got here? In a bit of news that ties into our Caravan of Garbages at the moment, Scoob is heading straight to streaming on May 15th. Not going to watch it. You have to watch it for the show.

I'm not going to. We're dedicating an entire episode to it. I'm not going to. I refuse. We call it the Scooby-Dooby Weekly Planet-y Showby Wobby. And we're going to cover the movie Scoob. What do you think? So what you're saying is in order to cover this movie,

we're going to rename our podcast and just keep it with that name forever. Yeah, that's it. I'm in. You excited? Yes. But the Scooby Doobity Doobity, whatever You excited? Yes. But the Scooby- Podcast needs a refresh. Doobity-doobity.

Yes. Whatever I said. Yes. Oh, I'll listen back when I edit this. Okay, cool. So we don't know whether this is indicative of the quality or not because of the era that we're in. But it certainly doesn't look great. I don't think it is.

But maybe it's great. I don't think it is. Will Forte. Oh, it's the voice of Shaggy, yeah. But also MacGruber's coming back. Did you hear that? Oh, I didn't hear that. Yeah, MacGruber's coming back.

I really like MacGruber. A movie that nobody saw is coming back. It's a fun movie. What do you mean? As a sequel or a reboot? Yeah, sequel series or something. Series? Yeah.

Huh. Will Forte's the master of making really good things that nobody watches. Yep. That's how you work in Hollywood. It certainly is, isn't it? Yeah. As women, our life stages come with unique risk factors, like high blood pressure developed during pregnancy, which can put us two times more at risk of heart disease or stroke.

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Which version, though? Roger Moore, Val Kilmer, probably another early to mid to mid 2000s reboot i had to pick one it would be roger moore because he's so cool and suave yes it looks like a tan leather briefcase i used to read the saint books they're quite good yeah or i mean they were when i was you know 12 or whatever so is it like and then the saint took off his mustache and it was the saint nobody realized it was the same sometimes you go an entire length of a novel and you're like who's this mustache guy who's the mustache guy in this book when are we getting to the saints i mean this guy's you know fighting organized crime and

solving people's problems or whatever i mean i want to i read i bought a book about the saint in a hop shop for a dollar i want to be here yeah and then he takes the mustache off i'm like simon templar you've done it again. Were you ever a fan of The Saint? I just said I was. No, sorry, the series. Which one? Whatever. Yeah, the Roger Moore one.

So you did watch the Roger Moore one? Yes, it used to be on TV. It was like 4.30 in the afternoon or whatever. Yeah, okay. So you'd watched a bunch of The Saint. But there was a Val Kilmer one and then there was a pilot for a series like a few years ago with Eliza Dushku as his second-in-command kind of thing. Val Kilmer?

No, just some rando. I don't know what his name was. So she was like the lead? No, she was like his, you know. In the van? Yeah, she was in the band, exactly. In the van. In the van and the band.

Okay, they're the band. So she'd often take off a mustache and be like, it's the Saint's, exactly. In the van. In the van and the band. Okay, they're a band. Yep. So she'd often take off a moustache and be like, it's the Saints assistant. That's exactly right. This whole time. Yeah, and that's why I never... You go an entire episode, you don't know who the Saints assistant is. That's why I never got picked up, because people turned off.

But you can see it's on Netflix, that one. The pilot is on Netflix. It's like a TV movie. Yeah, right, okay. It's not great. I don't recall it being particularly great. That's right. They dumped it there, didn't they?

I forgot. We've definitely talked about that. Anyway, Chris. It's not great. I don't recall it being particularly great. That's right. They dumped it there, didn't they? I forgot. We've definitely talked about that. Anyway, Chris Pine is the saint. Oh. It's going to be penned by Seth Graham Smith, who did the Lego Batman movie, which is quite a fun movie, and directed by Dexter Fletcher. Oh. I like this lineup.

Yeah, it's pretty good, yeah. Chris Pine is going to have another shot at an iconic spy-ish role in a reboot. Yep. Jack Ryan, I'm talking about. I was going to say another shot at an iconic spy-ish role in a reboot. Yep. Jack Ryan, I'm talking about. I was going to say Jack Ryan, yeah. Yeah. He's the master of stepping into a role that somebody did in a reboot. Chris Pine's, you know, he's Star Trek.

Yes, he is Star Trek, yes. Jack Ryan. Give me another one. This means war. Yes. Which is obviously, that's an adaptation of War and Peace. Yes, that's right. Anyway, I like him.

If I knew more about the novel War and Peace, I could make some awkward metaphor about Tom Hardy is one character in War and Peace and Reese Witherspoon is another character in War and Peace. Oh my goodness. But I don't know actually the plot of War and Peace, so I couldn't do it. Do you think people are too busy? They're making jokes about how War and Peace, so I couldn't do it. Do you think people are too busy? They're making jokes about how War and Peace is too long.

They should be reading War and Peace, though. You know what I mean? It's become like a joke. I think too many people are reading War and Peace and not doing their part to end war and begin peace. It really makes you think, James. I thought the idea was to have war and peace at the same time. Sounds bad.

It's not war or peace. It's war and peace together. Which I guess is kind of the constant state that this planet is in. Yep. Because there's both, you know what I mean? Really makes you think, doesn't it? Yeah. Anyway, I figured out that book, so I don't need to read it, do I?

No, that's true. Terrific. Do you think our friend Dave Warnicke's done it on Book Cheat? I know you talked about doing it. But it's a hugely long one, isn't it? Yeah, so he's probably building up to it. Talking about Book Cheat. I don't know if I heard you say Book Cheat.

Anyway, should we mention who the saint is? Some people might not know who the saint is. Go ahead. No, you're the saint, Spurt. Oh, okay. I mean, I can do it, but I feel like you should do it. Well, the saint is Simon Templar. He, I believe, is a...

He was a soldier during whatever war happened prior to the events of whatever... So the 60s show, probably World War II, I guess. Probably World War II, yeah. Or Korea. Or Korea, yeah. Or another war, because there's constantly war and peace. That's right.

And he's just doing... Solving crimes that the police won't touch for some right. And he's just doing, solving crimes that the police won't touch for some reason. But he's also being people, isn't he? He's like pretending to be people. Was that more the movie? I feel that was more the movie, yeah. Right.

So he wasn't like the pretender where he's like, this week I'm a race car driver with a moustache. And every week I'm like, where's the pretender this week? My God. I didn't sign up for this. You certainly didn't. Yeah. Okay, so that was more the Val Kilmer one. Yes. Okay, very week. My God. I didn't sign up for this. You certainly didn't.

Yeah. Okay, so that was more the Val Kilmer one. Yes. Okay, very good. All right. He's a bit like, I was going to say he's a...

Like James Bond? Yes. Because in the movie, wasn't it also like he was raised by nuns and that's why he's the saint or something? I can't remember that.

Because he loves saints. And Elizabeth Shue's like, Oh, I see. Cold fusion. And he's like, yeah, that's good. All right. You remember that. Because he loves Saints. And Elizabeth Shue's like, Oh, I see. Cold fusion. And he's like, Yeah, that's good. All right. You remember that movie.

Okay. Anyway, basically, he's just a guy and he fights crime, but he also takes people's money and stuff. He's like a James Bond, but he's less for Queen and Country and he's more like,

I'm going to beat these criminals and I'm going to help you out, but I'm also going to take some money for myself. Jack Reacher. Yep. Yeah. Do some money for myself. Jack Reacher. Yep. Yeah. Do you have the rock loss Jack Reacher? He was like, I really wanted to be Jack Reacher.

But Tom Cruise took Jack Reacher. Makes more sense when it's Tom Cruise, doesn't it? No. Not at all. Because isn't Jack Reacher supposed to be like 100 feet tall? Yes, exactly. He's all American all the time. Not that Tom Cruise isn't all American.

He's all American all the time. I mean, if we're casting Jack Reacher based on how all American you are, Tom Cruise was't all-American. He's all-American all the time. I've never besmirched a man like that. If we're casting Jack Reacher based on how all-American you are, Tom Cruise was in Cocktail. He's still an all-American boy, even though he's 59 years old or over all he is. Yeah. He's real Peter Pan, that guy. He certainly is.

Because he can fly? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Get ready for this, Mason. War and Peace chronicles the French invasion of Russia and the impact of the Napoleonic era on Tsarist society through the stories of five Russian aristocratic families. Those five, of course, being Tom Hardy,

Chris Pine, Reese Witherspoon, and two other people who were in the movie This Means War. Probably Seth Green. And Chelsea Handler's in it, I believe. Chelsea Handler's one of those Tsarist aristocratic families. That sounds really good. Mm-hmm, yeah. I mean, I'm. Chelsea Handler's one of those Tsarist aristocratic families. That sounds really good. Yeah.

I mean, I'm sure it is because it's a very famous novel. Get this. Lionsgate are developing into a movie The Ballad of Songbirds and Snake. I don't know what that is. Yeah. So anyway, they're making this movie. They've pushed it into production and it will be out in a few years. The previous movies in the franchise made $3 billion, the four that they made. Is this a trick?

Is this like how Game of Thrones, the first novel in Game of Thrones was A Song of Ice and Fire and this is some sort of trick? I'll give you the author. Okay. Suzanne Collins. Suzanne Collins. Yes. Don't know who that is. I'll give you another clue. Okay. Suzanne Collins. Suzanne Collins. Yes. Don't know who that is.

I'll give you another clue. Yes. Woody Harrelson, but he's in a wig. Cheers? No. I'll give you another clue. Yes. Philip Seymour Hoffman, but he died, and they put him in it anyway.

Oh, Hunger Games. I didn't want to give you the lead, because you would have got it immediately. Right, right, right. Did you know those movies made $3 billion? I didn't know that. I know they sort of fizzled out towards the end. Yes. Because they split the last book up.

We did an episode on that. We used to make annual something, Doctor Who Hunger Games episodes or something. Yeah, we did. That's right. Yeah. So, yeah, it's basically a prequel book which will be out soon, which is about the rise of whoever the bad guys are in that, Donald Sutherland.

And he's like, who's got the weirdest hair? You can be in charge with me. That's right. We'll start this hunger game. How good are you at eating a bunch of grapes while sitting on a lounge? Join my team. What do you think about that?

We're building weird nanotechnology that can make us robot panthers, but not food, apparently. Makes you think, doesn't it? Keep society, it's a metaphor. I mean, not in this world, it's not a metaphor, it's the literal world we're creating and we live in. Anyway, I guess there's been enough time where this could be interesting, but prequel.

Yep, could be good. Yeah. I mean, I don't know, I would like to see that degradation of society. And you know what? I would mostly like to see all the weird justifications where why they need a Hunger Games as opposed to any other form of society. It's because it keeps people in check.

Remember? Because it's like if you're in this particular village, this means your village will listen. Listen to people. You know what I mean? Yeah, for sure. It's a good movie i think some of them uh i've got the books you've got the books yeah when i was living when i lived up north i heard they were making it so i ordered them and read them because i had nothing to do up there for

you wanted to be mad about the difference between the books and the movies yeah but i've forgotten so but i'm sure i had really passionate opinions at one point. No, they're mostly accurate. I believe. Yeah. Great. They even get that salute, right? They got that salute, right?

Yeah. There's only so many salutes you can put in a movie. You know what I mean? You got the Spock one, you got the hunger games one. You've got like a regular salute. You got a thumbs up. You got the salute to rock and roll. Yeah.

You know, but they're running out of hand symbols for special salutes and dystopian or regular futures. That's true. What are we going to do? Um, just pinkies. Nah, I feel like that's already like a cup of tea thing, isn't it? or regular futures. That's true. What are we going to do? Just pinkies? Nah, I feel like that's already like a cup of tea thing, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, that's probably true.

Pinkies, but you put them together. Oh, yeah. Like in a steeple situation. That's pretty good. I feel like that's also a Dragon Ball Z move. Oh, okay, right, right, right, right. That's more like this, maybe. More like a diamond.

Yeah, right. That's what I'm thinking of, yeah. Pinkies together. Turn one fist up, one fist down. I hope that's what they say when they do it. Pinkies together, turn one fist up, turn one fist down. We all live in this dystopia

and we love it. Just so everyone knows, we're doing it. Yeah, we're doing it. I like it. It's good, right? It feels pretty good. It doesn't feel that good. I think it feels good. You're getting a little stretch in there. Maybe you could switch them around. Oh, yeah. It's good, right? It feels pretty good. It doesn't feel that good. I think it feels good. You're getting a little stretch in there. Maybe you could switch them around. Oh, yeah.

Biggies together. Switch them around. We all live in this. What am I doing? What am I? And here's the twist, though. Every day they turn it around. Yeah.

And if you're a spy or something, you don't know. You don't know what. And they shoot you. They put a nanobot dog on you or something. Exactly. That's how they know. It's like that scene in Inglourious Bastards. Oh, okay.

If you don't know the correct chant, and you don't know which way you turn your fists... But you'll know. Yeah. If you know, if you're in the know. Yeah. Great. Last bit of news.

The net is apparently still planned for release on July 17th, unless otherwise situations determine that it cannot be the case. This year? This year. Huh. It's This year. Huh. It's coming up. Well. Theaters, though, if it is released,

there could be social distancing things in place. I'd imagine where half sessions and things like that, certain number of people in theaters. Yeah, right. I feel like if somebody's got that and you walk into a movie theater. Everyone's got it. You probably get it. Regardless, yeah.

So the idea is that maybe it won't make as much money because you're releasing it at a time. But also I feel like if it's the only new thing for the next four months, then it could just very slowly just do very, very well. Yeah. What are the Oscars going to look like this year? They might cancel them. Yeah, probably.

Or next year, early next year. It depends. It depends how the end of the rest of the year shapes up. I want Bloodshot to sweep the Oscars. I really do. For what? Most generic movie? Yeah.

Yeah. They'll add that award. Like, we can't give it best, but we can give it most generic. It was fine, right? I enjoyed it. What's your favourite movie of this year so far? Bloodshot. Is it?

No, I don't know. What else came out? Underwater. Have you seen that yet? Nope. It's come to streaming. Vivarium. Vivarium.

Vivarium. Like a chocolate vivarium. Like a chocolate vivarium cheesecake. Huh. Yeah. Sounds delicious, but I haven't seen it. It's got Jesse Eisenberg and Imogen Poots. Okay, yeah.

Yeah, anyway. But you know what might be the best movie of the year? Oh, yes, go on. Get ready for this. Well, look, I've got a bit of an intro to this. So Hugh G Reaction on Twitter said, oh, talk about Extraction, please. So we've actually got a new movie to talk about this week. In the tradition of, you know, middle-of-the-road Netflix action movies,

including Six Underground, Spencer Confidential, Triple Frontier, comes Extraction. It's better than those, I feel. It's way more. Look, I didn't see Triple Frontier. I didn't mind Triple Frontier. Yeah, I thought it had a solid cast. It looks like Ben Affleck and Oscar Isaac,

and there was a good kind of rapport there. It's like bog standard action-wise, but it's compelling enough. I did not care for Six Underground. I couldn't watch more than a minute of that. Why did they have a parkour guy in a car chase? I don't know, but it was, it was sort of aggressively visceral,

but it was like that, that Michael Bay style of just everything and every, everything in every frame is moving constantly and exploding. And you just, when everything is pulling focus, you can't, I can't enjoy those. And I watched maybe five minutes of Spencer Confidential

and I had to switch it off. But this one, watched all the way through. I know, right? It's a good movie. Well, it is directed by Sam Hargrave, who you might know as a stuntman and stunt coordinator who worked on films like Civil War and Endgame. Oh, yes.

So the Russo brothers were also involved in the story and screenplay side of things. It's pretty bare bones in terms of storytelling, but a lot of the story unfolds in the story and screenplay side of things okay it's pretty bare bones in terms of storytelling but a lot of the story is unfolds in the action because i know the director wanted to kind of have it so each action sequence tells you a little bit about the characters that are involved in that okay so for example and we're going to go non-spoilers and spoilers but it is on netflix if you don't want to check it out you know you know you find out things about chris hemsworth that you know he's not that he's not going to shoot a kid.

So you know he's a big wuss. Yeah, there's certain lines that he won't cross. Like not being a big wuss. He'll never cross that line, the big wuss. The big wuss line, yeah. So he's kind of an anti-hero. I think a good nickname for this guy would be John Prick. He's like a meaner version of John Wick.

You know, kind of a gruffer, rougher, like the kills are more kind of hands-on, don't you feel? And visceral than a lot of John Wick. That's a good question. I feel they're more real than John Wick. I feel like... There's a hyper-violence to John Wick and this is more kind of... Yeah, it is more grounded. That's not a criticism of John Wick either.

I'm just like comparing that. No, I think it's not quite apples and oranges but it's two different varieties of apples. Yes, exactly, yeah. I feel like this is more of a Granny Smith.

Sure. Crisp, clean, polished. Crisp Hemsworth. Crisp Hemsworth, yeah. What I really enjoyed about Crisp Hemsworth in this is he's like a foot taller than everyone he fights.

One of the first action sequences because I watched a bunch of behind the scenes stuff the director talked about how you know he starts you see how efficient he is with weapons when he busts into the room and he slowly he's like he's whittled away and at one point he uses a cup and a rake and yeah all these different things but him being so much bigger he's able to kick the legs out from underbody and they just hit the fucking ground yeah really difficult real jack reacher he is isn't he but he's just tossing people around and i just really enjoyed it he's there there's a there's a few that sort of dip into john wick territory sure i think there's a moment where he he essentially bodily picks up one dude and sweeps him across the room like he's a club and knocks him out do you remember that i do yeah there's a moment where he picks up a guy

like dumps him over his shoulder under his head. Probably that's a fake body because we couldn't really do that. Yeah, right. A lot of time I can get sick of action sequences if I'm not really drawn into the character and I found that that was what John Wick 3 was to me. It became less interesting as a character. Well, to me, John Wick 3 became less interesting just because it felt quite video gamey. We did an episode on it, I think, and quite video gamey and also kind of he had a formula for success. He just kept doing it. It was set your dog on someone, then close the distance and headshot them,

and then that 50 times. Yeah, right. And it kind of lost. Seeing that a few times was kind of interesting. Yes. But it kind of lost its luster. I don't think they get worse as movies, but there is that. I don't feel like it worked initially as a novelty,

and then it was like, oh, we're doing this again. Yeah, right. We're doing this again. And when you get past the kind of, you move way past the dead wife and the dead dog, you kind of become disconnected from those things that were kind of tethering him in the first movie. But this has the advantage of being it's the first potentially first movie of maybe a franchise we'll

talk about it but that it is fresh and new and he's a new character and everybody seems to be using their real accents which i appreciate a lot very diverse cast as well that i really enjoyed because a lot of the time when you know they'll do drug lords in, Mexican drug lords or whatever, which it's in nearly every movie, but this is the idea that there's crime in India. Yeah, of course there would be. And the idea that they used a lot of local actors to do that. Early on we see Chris Hemsworth, Origin, he's hanging out in the Kimberleys. Was that Western Australia?

Western Australia, yeah. And they used clearly local actors, which is nice. Yeah, exactly. And that's not really something you see a lot of, you know, using Indigenous actors like properly in things in Australia. It's definitely getting better, but it was, and they were just minor roles, sure, but they took the time to be like,

well, let's get some local actors to do this, you know? I appreciated it. But the same thing with one of the lead actors, Randeep Hodar, who's a famous, I'm probably saying that wrong, but he's a famous Indian actor, I thought, was also really convincing in his action sequences. And he's clearly been...

He's Chris Hemsworth's sort of opposite number. Yeah, right. Exactly. And the idea also that when you're in their world and it's just them talking to themselves, it's subtitled. You know, they're not like, let's just speak English for God's sake.

You know, it happens a lot of the time. You've got to practice your English. Yeah. But I felt also like a big part of this movie is him protecting a kid. I thought that kid was really good and their relationship kind of, they flesh it out just enough that it's interesting. I feel like it was just on the precipice of like, there's nearly not enough here between these two characters.

But I mean, not that you ever get the sense that he doesn't like the kid, but I think there's one scene in particular where they sit down and they have a discussion where they actually properly click. And I think that really aided the finale of the shopping montage that really helped it out after that. They're like, Oh my God.

You love frozen yogurt too? Let's go. What else I liked about it. I'm coming up. I got the world to go. I like also that, first of all, at the start, there's a time jump. But they didn't say five days earlier. Not a sci-fi time jump, just to be clear.

Yes. Like they open it at a particular thing and you're like, oh, what's going on here? Then they go back. I feel like a worse film or TV show would be like five days earlier. So when you jump back at the start, you don't really know if it's back. You don't know what direction that is. That might have been an earlier moment for him in his life. Yeah, right.

Which you find out that obviously it's not. But I also like that he's very kind of sloppy and improvises a lot in the way that Bourne does. Because I remember appreciating when you see those Jason Bourne movies, when he's in a car and he's doing a car race to get away, he's got the map open. Like he doesn't just know where he's going. And in this one, like he takes a wrong turn at one point. He has to back up, you know, things like that.

I made him kind of more real. He had to rely on a GPS at one point. He puts it on the dashboard and he's like, I don't know where I'm going. I'm not from here. Yeah, that's right. Things like that. I made him kind of more real. He had to rely on a GPS at one point. He puts it on the dashboard and he's like, I don't know where I'm going. I'm not from here. Yeah, exactly. But it is mostly Chris Hemsworth doing it for the most part, which is pretty evident.

There is a leap off the roof, and I wonder if that was, that wouldn't have been Hemsworth, surely. No, I'd imagine not. That was in The One-er. So The One-er, it starts in a car chase, and then it goes into tactical kind of shootery yes and then it's a fistfight in the street it's like 11 minutes 30 and there is cuts

in it yeah but a lot of that was the director who plays the sniper in this you know he's got the beard oh yeah uh-huh yeah he strapped himself to the hood of a car and was in the car chase like following close as cars are flipping and spinning yeah so, wow. Yeah, so it really kind of adds to it. I feel that it's not just CGI cars flipping, it's real cars and you're getting really close to the action the whole time. Yeah, felt good. Felt visceral but not like, you know, we don't need to see every bullet go through everybody

and come out the other side and all that sort of stuff. No, but if you do want to see that. Six Underground, I guess, yeah. I mean, it's also with this. Oh, okay, right, right, right, right. Yeah. Is that what happens in Six Underground? At one point in Six Underground,

somebody fires a grenade at a car and it actually comes in through the window and it breaks the driver's nose and then it lands in the car and then it explodes. Okay. So he was like... I think that's quite... Yeah, but when it's every frame. Oh, okay, right. So it's every time somebody's killed, it's a grenade to the nose. Yes it explodes. Okay. So he was like... I think that's quite... Yeah, but when it's every frame.

Oh, okay, right. So it's every time somebody's killed, it's a grenade to the nose. Yes, that's right. Speaking of broken noses, there's a bloody broken nose in this, am I right? Yeah. Yeah, there is.

There is, Mason. If you want to see Chris Emsworth slap around a bunch of kids... Oh, that's a gift. You definitely got to get it. Yeah, that's right. I think that was my favourite action sequence because he's fighting kids and they've got guns and machetes

and he doesn't want to kill them and he's just like cuffing them, you know, like a dad, like cuffing his kids the entire time. Though he is really hurting them. James, is that scratching an itch for you at all as a dad, do you think? I guess it is. I don't hit my kid, but, you know, after this, lessons seem to be learnt, don't they? I mean, Chris Hemsworth is a real, he's a role model, isn't he?

Well, his kid's in this. There's a moment where you see one of his kids. I wondered if that was his kid. Actually, his kid. His kid is blonde as the day is long, which isn't surprising. Do you want to talk about spoilers? Let's talk about spoilers. I'm going to say best Netflix movie ever.

Me too. But maybe literally ever. I'm sure there are other examples. Probably that's a generic statement of, like, best movie ever, because it's not best Netflix movie ever. Me too. But maybe literally ever. I'm sure there are other examples. Probably that's a generic statement of like best movie ever because it's not the worst movie ever. But I think this may be... What's a Netflix movie that's better than this? I'm just Googling.

Well, Marriage Story. Roma. Oh, yeah. I've seen it. Dolomite is my name. That's okay. Right, right. Okay.

All right. Best Netflix action movie. I can't argue with that. What about The Irishman? No. That's an. Right, right. Okay. All right. Best Netflix action movie. I can't argue with that. What about The Irishman? No. That's an action movie? What about Uncut Gems? That came to Netflix.

Not an action movie, really. El Camino? I prefer this, actually. I really liked El Camino. I mean, they're different, aren't they? Did you see The King? No, what's The King? The King is about a king, and he's like, I'm the king now.

Timothee Chalamet and Robert Pattinson's French, and he's like, I'm French in this. This is on Netflix. Yeah and Robert Pattinson's French and he's like, I'm French in this. This is on Netflix. Yeah, it's really good. The king. If you like Braveheart, then yeah. Murder Mystery, what about that? That movie is pretty average in my estimation. What about Bird Box?

Didn't see Bird Box. Really? Didn't see it. But there was the Bird Box challenge. You're going to be coming to the Bird Box challenge too. You're going to be driving your car blindfolded. People are going to be like, where's this guy been? Yep. It's going to be coming to the bird box challenge too like you're going to be driving your car blindfolded people are going to be like where's this sky bead yeah it's going to be really embarrassing for you yeah there's some good stuff here but yeah you're right

a lot of it is generic action movies like you know like time is up or point your gun and click so there's a lot of movies that are sort of like battle los angeles there's a vega there's a vague alien threat and they come down and they've got green laser sights, and who are they? It's probably humans from the future or something. Yeah, but how are they going to get to the big blue laser? Probably in, like, armoured vehicles. Armoured vehicles, I don't know.

Maybe through the sewers when the armoured vehicles get stuck. Yeah, exactly. Through the sewers, yeah. There's only really one kind of big spoiler moment in this. Are we doing spoilers now? Yes. Okay, James, spoilers from this point forward. Are you ready for spoilers, James, and listeners?

Well, I've seen it, so I'm okay with this, obviously. Oh, yeah, just listeners. Listeners, are you okay with spoilers from this point forward? I can't hear you. No, we're not. We haven't seen it yet. Wow. Well, maybe you can pause.

You can click away. You can click away, volume down. But I can't. I'm on the other side of my room. I can't reach my device that I'm playing this on. Cover your ears. Just cover your ears with your hands. I don't have any hands.

They're stuck in a toaster. You could sing a song really loudly. You could sing a song really loudly. That's right. I'm not a great singer. I'm a bit self-conscious. You know what? Everybody can sing a little bit.

Just believe in yourself. There's always one song. You just sing the song you sing in the shower. I'm coming up. I want the world to know. This has actually given me a lot of confidence. Thanks, guys. I'll rate you five stars on iTunes.

Oh, bless you. Give this video a like. Wait a second. How can you do that if both your hands are stuck in a toaster? You lying son of a bitch. Stop listening. I don't want you anymore. So, Chris Hemsworth manages to make the extraction. That's right. And it turns out that the guy you think could be his enemy

really hired him because Chris Hemsworth would do the extraction because he couldn't pay for Chris Hemsworth because he's so good at extraction. So the idea was that he would get Chris Hemsworth to do the extraction or the lion's share of it and not pay him or his team and then kill him and then get his henchman

the aforementioned opposite number to perform the rest of the extraction for freebies. That's right. Wow, rude. And Chris Hemsworth is not having it until he is. Yeah. He loves kids or something, but also he wants to drown he's got a lot going on he's a complicated man does he want to drown that's a good question

no no because it was really good how there was a metaphor in this about how you only drown if you fall into a river and you don't get out of the river and then at the end yes chris hamsworth falls into a river that's right yeah that's wow do you feel like he was thinking that as he fell in he's like what are the fucking he was thinking that as he fell in? He's like, what are the fucking odds of that? He said that exact thing and now I'm in the river. Yeah. But then he would have been like, but I've been in rivers before, I think.

You know, as part of my job and probably just swimming in a river sometimes. I live up in the Kimberley. Swinging off an old tyre swing, perhaps. Just hanging out, having a bevy with the boys. You know? But wait, I'm drowning. I should probably stop thinking about this and get out of the river. But it'll be shot in the neck also.

Do you think that this movie could have worked? Do you think it needed the flashbacks? Yeah. Because, you know, the Chris Hemsworth character is, he is driven at least partly by the fact that he had a child who got very sick and then rather than deal with that and spend time with his wife, he instead decided to leave and do army stuff somewhere else. That's right.

And he regrets that. Yeah. And in performing this extraction, money or no money, he's like... This is my penance. This is my penance. And as a result, I can live at the end of this. Yes.

I feel like we didn't need to see any of that. I feel like it could have just been... my penance this is this is my penance and as a result i can live at the end of this yes uh i i feel like we didn't need to see any of that i feel like it could have just been well i feel i feel like i feel like i'm he sold it in his telling of that story yeah yeah is that what you mean yeah that's what i mean i feel like you know in the in the telling and in the just we i think we as an audience are smart enough to be like, Oh, he had, you know, we don't need to see the,

the kids swimming in the river or whatever. Like we get it, but you know, I guess he wanted a job for his kids. He wanted a job. So do you think Chris Hemsworth at the end of this was alive? And that was Chris Hemsworth. Who else could it have been?

John Prick. His character, John Prick. Oh, okay. Right. Right. No,

his name's Jake Rake or something. Jake Rake. His name is Rake. Yes, it is. Yeah. Yeah. Do you think he's related to Rake? From the TV show Rake, the Australian's Jake Rake or something. Jake Rake. His name is Rake. Yes, it is, yeah. Do you think he's related to Rake?

From the TV show Rake, the Australian TV show Rake. Even though his name's not Rake? I think his name is Rake, isn't it? Oh, no, it might be like muck raking. No, his name's Cleaver Green. Okay. Yeah. Nevertheless, do you think they're brothers?

Yes. Okay, good. It all comes together, doesn't it? The only on TV cinematic universe. Yes. So how did he get into that school? I guess he just... Jumped a fence.

Jumped a fence. It's eight months later. I'm sure he's fine now. Yeah, and nobody stopped him in the school, I guess. How do you feel about that? How do you feel about the main character presumably living... I think it's okay. I think it's okay.

I think it also gives the kid closure. Okay, but how do you feel about the final action sequence where i feel the only reason uh jake rake stuck around was to be shot by his his teenage dutch nemesis the little kid who he humiliated in the past yeah i feel like there wasn't really because he sort of at the end we have he's had the kid run to his compatriots, his surviving team, and this is on the safe side of a bridge. Then he starts walking back to the bridge to shoot the leftover army guys and police guys.

Corrupt cops or whatever, yeah. Also, one of my criticisms, I think, is maybe that I felt it was very convenient that there was a, they just put a throwaway line in that was essentially, yeah, everybody in this city is on the take. So it's totally fine to shoot all the cops and all the army guys. Like it's totally fine. I also feel like it's, yes, I agree with you,

but a lot of times when people live in extreme poverty, then it's just part of the system. Everybody's trying to feed their family, so everybody who can will do whatever. You know what I mean? And if you're in the police force also, and they're like, kill this guy, even if you're not on the take,

you're the police and you have to do it. Yeah, I guess that's probably true. So he's also killing people who are just doing their job. That's what I'm saying. That's exactly what I'm saying, yes. But he's not a great guy, is he? No, he's not. That's true.

But I guess my point is that the only reason he goes, I guess the idea of that final action sequence towards the end is he doesn't think he deserves to live anymore or he's... He's done what he needs to do. he's done what he needs to do. He's done what he needs to do so it doesn't matter at this point if he lives or dies and he's just like,

well, I better kill some more cops. Yeah. You know? So that's why he was walking back to shoot more cops. Seems that way. I thought he was just like, I don't know for this shit.

You think so? I didn't take it as like, I'm out for blood. I didn't take it as that. No, I felt like that the, how the, I guess the timing of the editing worked is that at that point it didn't seem like him or the kid

were really in any more danger. It wasn't like, oh my God, there's more troops at the gates and if you don't take a stand right now as we run, the kid's going to be killed and we're all going to die. It felt like there was this very calm moment where the kid and the good guys were going to get away and he's just like, well, time to go back on the bridge.

Yeah. Bang, bang, bang. Yeah. Was he actually walking back though or was he just walking in any direction? He was walking back on the bridge. I just thought he was just walking. I just need a moment to gather my thoughts, folks.

God damn, I've been shot so many times. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've got some alternate casting here I thought you might be interested in. Oh, okay. Because this movie has been in the works for a while. No. What?

Arnold Schwarzenegger. I guess The Rock. Do you think... I wonder if The Rock would do it just because it's a character with some moral grey area. I think he does moral grey areas. Like who? Hobbs or Shaw. No, you don't have any moral grey area.

They're all good all the time. Yeah, right? Yeah. They're only... They're... Well, that's the thing. sure they don't have any moral gray area they're all good all the time yeah right yeah they're they're only they're they're well that's the thing that i i feel like hobbs and or sure yeah they're not in they're not they don't exist in a moral gray area they're just amoral because they're not real people sure what about what about san andreas i feel like he's got a moral ambiguity because he steals that helicopter the rescue helicopter that could have gone to save

dozens of other people and he uses it to save his wife and daughter. That's exactly right. Maybe. No, he's certainly done movies like that. I'm trying to find an example of this. Walking Tall. Walking Tall, there's a bit of that there. No, there's a movie called Snitch from 2013 where he plays like a snitch

and he's like, my son's in jail or going to jail. I'll do the snitching around here. So, yeah. Is it called Snitch? It's called Snitch. Yeah, right. Yeah. It's called I'll do the snitching around here. So yeah. Is it called Snitch? It's called Snitch. Yeah, right. Yeah. It's called I'll do the snitching around here.

That's what it's called. So he does do it, but... Step aside, snitches. Yeah. But anyway, he wasn't asked. So Arnold Schwarzenegger, I feel like he wouldn't be a good fit because this isn't his...

Because of the narrowness of the doors. Yes. But this isn't his kind of movie, really. You know what I mean? Maybe later period Schwarzenegger. Yeah, because if you look at his 80s, 90s movies, it's hyper-violent and he's invincible and all those things. But yeah, certainly that has changed as he's gotten older.

But even then, I don't think he'd do a convincing what Chris Hemsworth does in this. And the other one who I'm glad they didn't get was Bruce Willis, because they mostly just would have shot a body double, like the back of his bald head and it would have been a much worse film with Bruce Willis sleepwalking through this. And I also feel

yeah, exactly, I feel you can't get, I don't think you'd also get a convincing physical performance out of him. No. You know, we need to know that this is a special forces guy, maybe he's not at the top of his game but still, you know, he can clear a room of guys with AK-47s. Six foot three or whatever.

Exactly, yeah, because he's big and experienced and his nerve doesn't break because he doesn't really care if he's alive or dead at this point. Like the bit where they put the gun to him. He's like, there was no bullets in that gun. That's right. I don't think he would have flinched regardless. Yeah, that's right.

Even as the bullet went all the way through his head. No flinching. No snitching. No flinching. Anyways, I think it's good that if you're looking for something new, like a new action movie in particular, because there is a lot of indie stuff still coming out, and obviously there's TV shows that are still kind of in the can.

It's nice to get something new that's not terrible. So I think it's definitely better than the movie Bloodshot if you're comparing it to other action movies from this year. Yep. And I think it's, for two hours, it doesn't certainly feel two hours. That's, I agree. Yeah, so I thought starting this is probably going to be like a tight hour 20, hour and a half, but no, it's about two hours.

So there you go. I'd like to see more from this director as well. I think he's good. So he's never done any, he's never directed before this. Okay. Yeah. Good on him. Yes, I agree. Good work. from this director as well. I think he's good. So he's never directed before this? Okay. Good on him. Yes, I agree. Good work.

Good on him, yeah. So is it time for the next segment of the show? What are we reading? What are we going to read? I like that. That's a new way we could do it now. All right, bloody got tickets on himself over here. Well, I just think if you're funny and you know it,

you should tell everybody. I think so too, yeah. That's all right. I'm doing the thing. What are we reading today? I genuinely cannot remember what I have been reading, but luckily I wrote it down. But what have you been reading?

Well, first of all, I should have mentioned this up top, but I forgot. Oh, no. I watched a couple of episodes of TV's The Flash because I was on our friend Matt Stewart's podcast Primates. Oh, Primates, yes. Where we talked about Gorilla Grodd and Gorilla City.

Gorilla Grodd. Did you watch the one where he fought King Shark? No, no. We watched some prior episodes where Gorilla Grodd, he kidnaps somebody and also he's in Gorilla City and then there's a sort of gladiatorial arena situation and then Gorilla City invades Regular City. Regular City.

It's nonsense, this show. It's comic books, isn't it? Yeah, I had a good time watching it and I had a good time on the podcast. So if you want to listen to that. I'll link it below. Are you going to come back to do future episodes of that or will you continue watching The Flash? I do like the odd episode of The Flash.

Yeah. I probably will not, oh, you know what, I think what I will probably do is start from, because that's season three. Yeah. I think I might start at season four. Okay, sure. And sort of head, go through it from there, I think, yeah.

Well, if you love discussions with people, Sal and I from Comic Pop recorded a thing earlier this week that's going out on his channel on Tuesday where we talk about the film adaptations of both Alan Moore and Frank Miller. And we pretty much go through everything and kind of rank them, whether they're good or not. What's your number one? Of them all?

Yes. I quite like V for Vendetta. What's your number seven of them all? Of them all? Yes. I quite like V for Vendetta. What's your number seven of them all? Of them all? Yes. What was the movie From Hell? Give me another one. What's your number nine of them all?

It would probably be The Killing Joke. What's your number four, Alan Moore? My number four Alan Moore adaptation? Yes. Okay, so we could do V for Vendetta. We could do Watchmen. We could do, what else could we do? We could do From Hell.

We could do Alex G. Oh. The Batman The Killing Joke, obviously. Constantine also counts, so probably Constantine. Oh, you've got an answer for everything, don't you? Yeah, you have to. You've got to be ready. Here's something that I was going to mention earlier, but then I forgot. I know what a phone is, Mason.

He's holding up his phone. I've seen a phone before. I've seen a smartphone. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No? This one's made of licorice. But also, this guy... He's not very smart.

Entertainment Weekly put this up this week. It's not a thing to read necessarily, but I think it was designed to upset people. I love it. It was, you have $15, build your own Avengers team. That was the biggest bunch of bullshit I've ever seen in my life. Right? It's an insane... You have $15, build your own Avengers team. That was the biggest bunch of bullshit I've ever seen in my life. Right? It's an insane,

like, cause it's, it's, you built, you have $15, build your own Avengers team. There's, there's five lines, a $5 line,

four, three, two, $1 line. Yeah. And I don't know. I, here's the thing.

It's either been, it's either been built randomly or it's been built deliberately to upset the maximum number of people. Because I guess top line, it's just the most, it's big guns who are famous. Yes. I guess it's a $5 line, Captain America, Iron Man, Black Widow, Thor, Hulk. Yep, because it's like your core team. Yeah, and then this assortment is crazy. Hawkeye is $4.

Yeah. But Vision is $1. $1, right? But Vision is $1. Right? War Machine's $1. How is Vision below Happy Hogan? Right? Happy Hogan, $2.

Scarlet Witch, $2. That's outrageous. Drax the Destroyer is $2. Yeah. What would you pick? I said when someone asked me on Twitter, 15 Visions. Right. I guess you can mass produce them, yeah.

Yeah. But what would you choose though? Realistically? Looking at that top list, you'd only need one of them. Yeah. You wouldn't need any more. And I'd probably do something like Captain America, but just for leadership. Sure.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What about you? What would you pick? Well, probably Thor, Doctor Strange. That's nine bucks. Yep. Both magic, though.

Do you want to go both magic? Well, see, that's the really good question. See, it's a fertile ground. It's a fertile ground if they, like, pick five. Yeah. You can only pick five. But then you have to go into, well, why, you know, why is Loki only worth $3?

Yeah, exactly. Maybe that's accurate. That's how they get you. That's not accurate. That's how they get you. So it not accurate. That's how they get you. So it's Groot, baby Groot. But why is Ant-Man worth $4, but the Wasp, who has all of Ant-Man's powers,

but can also fly. And is better at martial arts. Is it because Ant-Man can turn into Giant Man? But surely the Wasp suit can do that as well. She just doesn't do it. Yeah, well, maybe the idea is that he's got a tech side of him. But is she... She's tech-ish. she's tech-ish.

She's tech-ish. I would imagine she's exactly as tech-savvy as him. Well, I think he's more kind of Radio Shack tech, and she's more science tech, if I had to guess. Uh-huh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like Quicksilver even being, I know he dies immediately, but he's very fast. He's very fast.

I'd put him above a lot of people on this list. Because that's the thing. If you build an all-magic team, what if the villain you're facing has some sort of anti-magic? Yes. Scarlet Witch, $2. Insane. Who's not on here at all? Captain Marvel.

They give you five bucks, mate. Actually, good character. Very enjoyable. Good performance. I like her. Me too. But that's a little something. That's a little something for the boys.

You're out there. You know you're out there. You don't have to listen if you don't want to. Yeah. Black Panther, $4. Yeah, I guess. But Hawkeye shouldn't be $4. Spider-Man is a $4 superhero, I would say.

Here's the thing, though. If Hawkeye's $4, then Black Widow can't be $5. Why not? She's better than him. No, I feel skill-wise they're about the same. Yeah, but she's better, but probably not a full dollar more. But also not $5. No.

Also, do you think any of these would accept this money? Oh, are we paying them? Yeah, we're paying them. Oh, I give... That's a system I didn't factor in. Like Iron Man, he'd be like, I don't need the... Iron Man would be like, I don't need the money. Captain America would be like, well, that's enough.

Even if I do need the money, no thank you, man. Give it to somebody else. That's 20 egg creams, he'd say. Forgetting what era he's in. Thor wouldn't need the money. Hulk, no. None of those people, yeah. Black Widow would probably take the money. Think so?

She'd take the five? Yeah, I think so, on principle. That's probably true. You're paying for a service. So even like Star-Lord, he's $3. I wouldn't pick him for a team ever. Yeah, is that right? Because he'd fuck it up royally.

He gets by. He's competent enough, but he's an absolute fuck-up. And he would ruin your team. He would ruin your team, exactly. Like he gets by, he's competent enough, but he's an absolute fuck up. And he would ruin your team. He would ruin your team, exactly. He would ruin your team for a significant amount of time before he pulls it together and then he maybe saves the team. Maybe. But that's what I'm talking about.

So just remove any uncertainty and not have Star-Lord on the team. I wouldn't take Drax. I wouldn't take Groot. I'd take Rocket or Gamora, but I wouldn't take any of the other ones. Nebula? Insane, though. Volatile. Yeah, unpredictable. You're ones. Nebula? Insane, though. Volatile.

Yeah, unpredictable. You're right. Which era? You know what I mean? Maybe modern. Yeah, probably. Yeah, Nebula and Gamora are comparable. But if you had to pick one, you'd pick Gamora because she's more skilled.

That's true. Yeah. Anyway, that's what I've been reading, just constantly staring at that all week, being like, what are they even thinking they got you talking haven't they that's true also apparently this week Elijah Wood

has been popping into people's Animal Crossing and trading turnips did you see that have you been I haven't been Animal Crossing I don't have Switch so I can't help anyone there

me neither with turnips sorry with turnips or otherwise just otherwise yeah I don't know what I have been reading well I can tell you what I have been reading.

Well, I can tell you what I've been reading. Okay, tell me about it. Jeff Lemire, Ryan Cody, Eric Gapster and Phil Hester are working together on a comic called Family Tree. Oh, yes. It's about an eight-year-old girl who starts transforming into a tree and their family set out on an adventure to find a cure before she completely turns into a tree.

It's good. You want a family narrative about love and trees? Not especially. Then this is perfect for you because it's not even about that. It's action adventure. It's set in space. There's not a single tree in it. Wow.

I tricked him. It's mostly about the tree thing. I said, you can't hear this because he doesn't listen to the podcast. La, la, la, la. Yeah. So that's it. That's what you've been reading. Why must I,

must've been reading some stuff. You've had the, you've been on, you've been on a bit of a break. You're at home. What have you been doing? I don't know. What have you been doing?

It sounds suspicious. If you've been doing nothing since I last saw you. I've been, I've been sleeping in real light. It's been, it's been tremendous. You can't, you can't.

Oh, you know, I've been watching it. There's a, there's a guy on YouTube. It's called, there's a, there's a channel on YouTube called tremendous. You can't. Oh, you know, I've been watching it. There's a guy on YouTube, there's a channel on YouTube called Today I Found Out. Okay. And it's just every,

I think they come out like many multiple times a week, but it answers weird questions like, where do the royalties for Hitler's book go? Like who gets them? You know? Hitler? No. No, they don't put it into

like a slot in his grave oh they should shouldn't they I'm going to subscribe to that right now that's right if you show up at a certain day it works like

a one-armed bandit yeah also there is no Hitler's grave because the body was apparently destroyed though there's rumours that the Russians have the skull

but we don't know I went to where he shot himself his bunker I think I've talked about it's just a car park. Oh dear. No, because they didn't want to put like, this is where Hitler died.

Yeah, right, right, right. Because people would leave flowers. Yeah, well, exactly right. Yeah. So, yeah. Other questions might be like, how far could, as an English speaker, how far could you go back in time? Oh, that is interesting.

Before like people wouldn't understand you anymore? Yeah. Like other English speakers? I have thought about that before. It turns out it's about the 16th century. What happens before that? Before that, there's too many dialects. Spelling becomes non-standard.

There was a vowel shift. Okay, sure. Apparently at one point, like if you were to say the word bite, you actually pronounce it beat. Beat. But they all switched at some point. Yeah, right.

Like naturally, or it was a... I think, yeah, it was like an evolution, yeah. Oh, who eats the fillet-o-fish? I worked at McDonald's. I always wondered. Was it psychopaths? Mostly. Or on Good Friday, then you'd be fillet-o-fish frenzy.

That's true. I think when I worked there, I ate every single thing at one point except for the fillet-o-fish. I've never had one. Wow, I've had a fillet-o-fish. I know they're probably like fish fingers and whatever. Also, I don't know if you know this, you order a fillet of fish, you get half a slice of cheese.

They don't even give you a full slice. Excuse me? That's right, Mason. Even these days? I haven't ordered one. But if you ordered a fillet of fish between 2002 and 2005, then that's what they used to do when I went there. Because that's what you gave to people.

No, that is what they... They were so specific about the amount of ingredients because they have to be it's i think what happened is you went you you admitted it one day you're like i only put in a half a slice of cheese and they're like my god no wonder we're all rich my god man i'm gonna add this go back in time thing to my watch later q yeah it's good it's good i'm and all kinds of stuff. Should we move on to the lettuce segment of the show? Maybe, but maybe I'll waffle a bit while I find the lettuce theme. Can't we just move on with it, please? I don't want to.

Mason, we don't need to waffle a bit. We can actually just start the next segment of the show. Oh, my goodness. Okay. Don't you feel that's something we should be prepared for every week? We shouldn't rely on us filling out the show with amazing content. Yeah, I know, but I am ready every week. Like right now, I'm ready right now.

So we weren't filling. No, not at all. I was ready. Oh, letters. We love you. Some letters. They're only a day away. I know they're here right now.

We're going to do letters. That being said, right now I am going to fill because I don't have a letter. Okay, well, that's good because I just saw this video. It says, why did old Tommy Boxers or Pose make this pose? You know, the old Tommy Boxer pose? Oh, there's one. There's a really interesting one. And I'm going to spoil it for you here.

It's the first one I saw. I don't know why it came up in my suggested whatevers. It was in like West Wild West times. If there was a poster that said wanted dead or alive, what were the rules of that? And it turns out you could shoot somebody if in attempting to apprehend them, they either attacked you or they tried to run away.

You could shoot them. Oh, so you can't just shoot them straight away. No, you couldn't just shoot them straight away. But also you live in a time where nobody sees anything. That's the thing. So here's the thing. So you know how famous outlawlaw train robber etc jesse james yeah was killed by his friend robert ford shot him in the back of the head while he looked at a picture that well here's the thing he

told people that he didn't do that no he told people that he did do that he brought in the body people hated it brought in the body and he said and they said how did this happen he went i i got him to look at a painting and i shot him in the back of the head and they were like all right well you're on trial for murder now but if he'd said oh yeah he tried to kill me and then there was a struggle and i shot him in the back of the head he would have gotten away with the scoffering so that's also why people hated that guy yep because in the because also in that movie which is a terrific movie by the way yeah uh so he too was like a stage show where he recreates it like every night yeah yeah that's right and people come to like

mock him and call him a coward yeah shooting a dude in the back of the head but yeah but like the rule was if they came at you or if they ran away you could shoot them in the back

if they ran away so so that's fine is it that's apparently fine wow Wild West baby wiki wiki wild Wild West

this is a this is a this is a a tweet we got so if you want to if you want to email in it's wecanplanetpod at gmail.com or you can tweet at either one of us

yes this is the one that I enjoyed I love enjoying things yeah it's really good isn't it this is from this is from Adam Houghton if the Titanic never sank

what would have been the number one movie in 1997 taking into consideration the change of events being from the ship not sinking originally i also had this exact tweet i've actually pulled up some box office numbers here which might assist in our discussion god it feels good when we're so in sync like the band the backstreet boys they always got to line up their vocals in a way that

people found musically appealing that's why they had so many number one hits they're still they're still appealing to this day anyway titanic Titanic made $2.2 billion, right? Yeah. Next up we had Jurassic Park, the lost world made 618 million. So quite a bit less. Yeah.

Then we had men in black, 587. And then tomorrow never dies. 339 million, which actually came out the same week. So what if, do you think though, see my, my thinking,

and I hate to be a big old basic B, Mason, is that if the Titanic didn't sink, there wouldn't have been a movie to replace it similarly. No, I don't think so either. I think it captured the imagination. And our hearts. And our hearts, I haven't seen it. You haven't seen it.

In a way that nothing else on that list would have. No. Yeah, I don't think, and it's a thing that would have caused people to go out in droves and watch it over and over and over again, which I presume they did, and nothing else on that list would have. So I think the larger question is,

which of those movies would still exist if the Titanic didn't sink? Because it would change more than that, I think. Pearl Harbor. Well, Pearl Harbor, Tomorrow Never Dies, did you say? Yeah. They probably would have done better. It's on a boat.

Well, that's true. A lot of that's on a boat. Maybe boat-related movies would be different. But Tomorrow Never Dies, they were made at the same time. Yeah, right. But they didn't influence each other. No, I know, but I'm just saying

maybe all of society would have changed so people weren't interested about stories on boats because there wasn't a historically huge boat related disaster yeah i'm saying i think you wouldn't have had people trying to replicate the success zone like as mentioned we wouldn't have got a pearl harbor exactly yeah i would yeah you're right maybe i wonder if it's like historical epics because off the back of that saving private ryan would have been because that came out the next year that would have still been filmed but i'm trying to think of like other examples. Gladiator?

Yeah, maybe. Gladiator's more sword and sandals. Maybe. No, it's about a sinking boat. I don't think it is. I think it's about Russell Crowe and he's like, who put all these tigers in here? I thought it was just being Gladiator.

Are you thinking of Tiger King? Oh. Yeah. I tried to watch it. Who put all these tigers? I did. I'm one of the people in Tiger King. It was me.

I'm one of the several terrible people in this series. So you didn't watch the whole thing? I just don't give a fuck about any of those people. Yeah, that's bad. Awful fucking people. I did watch the Michael Jordan documentary, which is fascinating. What's the major thrust of that? Well, I talked about it on the show Suggestible, my other less successful podcast.

Oh, yes. So I don't want to get into it too much here because I know there is some audience crossover, but it's basically the 97 to 98 Chicago Bulls season where they're going to win another championship. They've won five in a row, and the team is starting to fray. Oh. And there's a lot of behind-the-scenes stuff. What about his shorts, his big shorts?

Are they starting to fray? No, crisp and clean. Doesn't he wear other shorts under his regular shorts? Well, if you ask Matt Stewart from Do Go On, he's really the one that you'd want to consult about that. Like he wears his college shorts under his regular shorts? Well, if you ask Matt Stewart from Do Go On, he's really the one that you'd want to consult about that. Like he wears his college shorts under his regular shorts. He's also in the movie Space Jam. Oh, yeah, that's true.

You've never seen the movie Space Jam. Yeah, anyway, even if you don't like basketball, you might like it. This is Ryan Cochran. Hello. This is his first time being a guest on a podcast. He's not a guest. I mean, you've put your foot in too far here, Ryan. Is that what he's saying? Not our podcast. Is he saying he's a guest I mean you've put your foot in too far here Ryan

Is that what he's saying? Not our podcast Is he saying he's a guest now by putting his letter in? Oh no no no he's saying he's going to be But in a way aren't all our listeners guests on the podcast? This is more of your pandering Like the time you told everyone that they were your best friends That you hang out with

We've been hanging out I don't believe you If you haven't hung out with Mason yet make sure you hit him up because he'll pencil you in. That's right. He'll pen you in so he can't cross it out. That's right. Even with one of those special erasers that erases penning. They don't work though, those.

That's what I'm saying. We're all in. We're all in, aren't we? But yeah, they're all guests in our home. No. Our collective home. No. In the man cave.

No. Nope. Ryan owns a couple of beer-focused bar bottle shop stores in Melbourne. Oh. He says, James, you are 100% correct. Beer is a conspiracy. Is that based on something you said on Suggestion Ball? Yes, I did.

Yeah, that's right. Basically, I said a lot of people just drink beer because it's like the standard thing to drink and it's like the socially acceptable thing. Oh, I'm right. But when I go out, I'm like, give me a fucking fancy weird drink. Cocktail with an umbrella in it. That's what you like. I want like a weird thing. Because beer is just, it's like the socially acceptable thing. But when I go out, I'm like, give me a fucking fancy weird drink. Cocktail with an umbrella in it. That's what you like. I want like a weird thing.

Because beer is just, it's too filling as well. You have a couple of pints and you're like, I've got so much beer in me. He says, I've just been asked to be a guest on- Calorie heavy. Yeah. Sorry, keep going. Except for low carb. But I've been asked to be a guest on a beer podcast, The Cold Room.

Now my question is, seeing as you two have both been guests on other podcasts as well as having guests on the Weekly planet, what makes a good guest? Is there anything I can do beforehand? Any tips of the trade in being a podcast superstar? I think it helps that if you don't over-listen to everything, if you'd never heard it. Most of the stuff that I've been on, I think I knew what it was anyway walking into it.

But, yeah, if you don't know, just get the flow of it. But don't be like well they're this kind of people so i'll say this and it's like don't overthink it but have an idea of what you're going into essentially yeah like if you know we're both done do go on and like primates and things like that and book sheet and you know there's a certain amount required for you going into that so i guess find out what it is you need to know even ask them what do you need me to do what yeah for sure find out what they might ask you so you can have answers. And also don't worry too much about it because, look,

no going in that don't say anything you wouldn't want on the internet forever, but also if you misspeak, they can edit it out. Whenever we have guests, we'd be like, whenever I speak to someone, I'm like, if there's anything you want me to edit out, just tell me. And I've done that. Unless they hate your guts and it's a trap. Then they get you. Then they get you, exactly.

They bait you into saying something really offensive and then they keep you in. And then you cancel. I've had people request like, oh, can you just take that thing out? Even if it's like a minor thing. And I just do it. Because I'm like, if you're not comfortable with it, I'll take it out. I don't give a shit. We don't care what murders you've done.

No, we love it. We encourage it. That's right. Yeah. Any other advice though? Just I don't give a shit. We don't care what murders you've done. No, we love it. We encourage it. That's right. Yeah. Any other advice, though? Just be yourself. Just be yourself. You know what I mean?

If you've got an interesting story, do that. If you're funny, do that. It's like going on a date with the internet. Exactly. Right. Where's some cologne? Yeah, my God. Do you have a cologne guy?

No. Me neither. Do you think it's coming back, though? Don't ever do it. The concept of cologne, is that coming back? Yeah, I feel like it's kind cologne guy? No. Me neither. Do you think it's coming back though? Don't overdo it. The concept of cologne, is that coming back? Yeah, I feel like it's kind of done off a bit. Yeah, because you can't go out and smell anyone. Yeah, but even if you could.

No, you shouldn't and you haven't. Yeah, I've got a tweet here. Hashtag weekly planet pod. It's from Meaning in Movies. What would your advice be for Hollywood at this point? Oh. Lower budgets, slimming slates, more streaming, less theatres. Get out your whiteboards and offer some of your advice.

We're brainstorming here. No wrong answers. Lower budgets for me would be, I think, number one. The Blumhouse model is what a lot of studios should be looking at. And I don't mean in terms of because everybody's quarantined and blah, blah, blah. I just mean generally. Even when we get out of this,

I feel like there's more creativity and there's... There's less pressure on those involved. Yeah. Hollywood's become this monster where if your movie doesn't make a billion dollars, it's a failure for some reason. Yeah.

Which is absolute madness. You'll get a chance to make another billion dollar film. Don't even worry about it. It's true. If you're in the club, you get the chance to make another one. Yeah. Which is absolute madness. You'll get a chance to make another billion dollar film. Don't even worry about it. It's true. Yeah, if you're in the club, you get the chance to make another one. Yeah.

But yeah, I feel like, especially when we were like teens. It's a nice shirt. This one? Yeah. This one here? Yeah. It's a good shirt.

It's from Ironheart. It looks like it's got a bit of weight to it. Oh, it's thick. Yeah. Oh, it's thick like a cast iron door. It's good. I like it. Give me that shirt.

Yeah, you can't have it. Give me it. It'd be too small for you. I want to wear it door. It's good. I like it. Give me that shirt. You can't have it. Give me it. It'd be too small for you. I want to wear it though. Leave me alone. Leave me alone. Sorry, keep going. Yeah, I feel like when we were watching movies as teens or 20-somethings or whatever,

you could watch a low-budget movie and... Equilibrium. Yep, sure. Absolutely. Maybe not the greatest example. What do you mean? It's the greatest example what do you mean it's the greatest example of a movie probably a good name another movie you can't now i can't i can name nothing else but sorry you're sorry but just the idea of you know it's a movie that cost you know 20 million dollars and it made 200 million dollars that's still a win yeah so

you know why not again why not again? Why not again? And again, there seems to be, at this point, there's very little correlation between exactly how much money is put into the movie and the end result. You know, there are plenty of bad $200 million movies out there. Yes. There are a bunch of great, you know, 50 million. The Invisible Man was a great movie.

I can't remember what that cost, but it was not a lot. Like 6 million or 15 million. I don't know. It wasn't a lot. I think also maybe it would be wise if we're talking budgets, but I agree with you. Lower budget. It's lower stakes.

The directors involved don't get crushed under the weight of studio pressure to put in this particular thing or cast this particular person for whatever reason. But the idea that maybe the weight of the budget would then go into marketing. So you're getting people to see it. So say the movie costs $5, you put $30 into marketing. Yeah, right. And again, you're right.

If the Hollywood formula is correct, if somebody is making a $5 million movie, then they get $5 million worth of advertising. That's not going to get it anywhere. And that's obviously going to be... That's a couple of bus shelters. Exactly. That's not going to give them a big return. And then they're going to go,

well, this is a bad model and it's a failure because nobody saw it because it was not marketed to anyone at all. So, James, you are darn right. I'm Hollywood. Yeah. There are great ideas out there and great movies being made on lower... Well, there should be great movies being made on lower budgets,

but if nobody is seeing them, then they're going to seem like failures, even though more eyes should be on them. This is something I also thought about back when the movie Australia came out. Do you remember the movie Australia? Yeah, Baz Luhrmann classic. I'm just going to check the budget on that because I'm fairly confident that it cost $200 million.

When you're there, can you also click and tell me what Baz Luhrmann's actual first name is? Because it's not Barry. It's Bazley. It is. I don't know, is it? It's close to Baz. No, he changed his name.

Is it? It is honestly like Bazley Luhrmann or something like it? It's close to Baz. No, he changed his name. Is it? It is honestly like Bazley Lerman or something like that. It's like... Born Mark Anthony Lerman. Scroll down. To what? To the point where he changes his name to Baz. Yeah.

Luman, he received the nickname Baz from his father because of his afro hairstyle and the name coming from the English Basil Bush. In high school, Luhmann changed his name to Bazmark. There we go. His real full name is Bazmark Luhmann. But at first it was like John Mark Peter or whatever.

It's a fun little fact, isn't it? It is a fun fact. Yeah. So anyway, the movie Australia cost $211 million. No, sorry, $130 million. I apologise. But it made $213 million. No, sorry, $130 million. I apologise. But it made $213 because it's bad. Right.

And I remember at the time when that came out thinking, if you had have taken that money, because then that's the Australian film industry. That's your shot at America for the year. Right. Which is what this country seems to do every now and then. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah.

Which is why the only movies that people know are Crocodile Dundee and the movie Australia. But give that to 10 different directors and give them $10 million each and one of those is going to be fucking awesome. You might get nine duds, but one of those is going to break through. Yeah, right. And so I just remember thinking at the time, that's an insane amount of money to give to one movie,

which wasn't good either. And apparently they also reshot a lot of it on green screen, I heard from our friend Hollywood Pete. They went back. That's why it looks so weird. But Screen Australia is not great at distributing money in a... No, not always. They're better actually for like smaller creators.

But we know people who have gone to make bigger budget films and they've pulled the funding for various reasons. But, yeah. Do you like it? I've not seen the movie Australia. That's one that wouldn't have happened without Titanic. It's got that kind of feeling to it. Well, then maybe Hugh Jackman's entire career wouldn't have happened.

Yeah. Because he's in that, right? Yeah, but he'd done Wolverine before. And many other things. Forget I said anything then. Yeah, don't even worry about it. Remember, it's got that scene where he's shirtless and he pours the bucket on him and people are like,

ooh, never seen something so sexy. Struth, they said. Struth, they said. Core blinding. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, is that the show? I think that's the whole show, yeah. Great.

Wrap us up to the home plate. Thank you, everybody, for listening. I hope everybody's doing all right out there. We very much appreciate still listening, even if you don't have a commute to go to. Yeah, that's right. Commute from the bathroom to the bedroom. What's on the way?

Podcasts. You better pick up that sock. We're a sock picking up podcast now. We certainly are. That's right. Sing our beautiful little song. Here I am picking up my socks. It's me, the listener of the week.

We've had it. You know? I know. Yeah. Before we wrap things up, though, a bit of a sad state of affairs, Mason. Not sad news, but sad news in a way. But rad news. Rad news?

Is that what you're saying? Yeah, sure. Well, Andrew Levins, who people would know from Serious Issues Podcast, Hey Fam, The Mitchin, other podcasts. He's got a thousand podcasts. So many podcasts. He's got a book out. He's got a kid's book out.

Exactly, yeah, which I buy it. I haven't read it yet because he sent us a copy and it didn't come because everything shut down forever. So, yeah, we're going to get hold of that. But it's about a kid who gets superpowers through eating vegetables. But he hates vegetables. What's he going to do? It's a real dilemma.

Well, we don't know. It's selling really well, though, so you should definitely pick up a copy. It's called Nelson, number one, Pumpkins and Aliens by Andrew Levins. You can order it online. But, yeah, so basically he's moving his podcast. He's not moving his podcast.

They still exist. But he's joining the Sands Pants Network over there, so that means everything is still running. None of those are being deleted because we don't own the podcasts on the network. No, but that's right. Well, Levens is from Sydney. Yes. And Sands Pants have opened up a recording studio in Sydney.

That's right. So he's going to be moving his recording and production of that over to Sydney. Levens, we owe Levens a great debt of gratitude because he created the Planet Broadcasting Great Mates Facebook group. Which is, in my opinion, one of the very few places to have an enjoyable civil conversation about pop culture and just life in general on the internet and have a fun, good time without being bogged down by just aggro lunatics.

That's right. You know the people who are like, oh, actually, the thing about the internet is you've got to expect, if you put it in a video, you've got to expect people to be mean and bully you. Why? You can just be nice.

You can just be nice. Even if you disagree, yes. This is the one oasis on the internet of just places where you can just talk about the stuff you like, you know, comic books and movies and video games and just have a, have a fun chat. And that's a,

you know, that is, that is a hundred percent down to, uh, Levin's and the other admins and moderators on that group who, uh, you know, when people step out of line,

be like, just be nice, be nice, please. Come on. And he really, Levin's really fostered an environment where, you know, just. As dad men.

Exactly. As the dad men. It's just, we're talking about silly things. Yes. And it's just, it's good to have a silly fun time. There's no room for arguments there. No, that's right. Civil discussions.

Civil discussions. But yeah, so he's still going to be in the group, obviously, but he's, he has written a post there, which you can check out. We kind of, he talks through the, you know, why he's leaving going to be in the group, obviously, but he has written a post there which you can check out where he talks through why he's leaving in this situation. As he mentions, this isn't a bad blood thing at all. I mean, there's bad blood, but we can't get into it because it's a secret. No, it was honestly like it's a great opportunity and why wouldn't he do it?

But we're really greatly appreciative for all the things that he's done. You will see him around. You'll be still around in the group and he'll be on things as well. That's right, probably guests when we're, you know, when everything's back up and running and we can meet people in person while I'm back on the show, maybe in his show. Exactly. Who knows?

Who does know? So yeah, look, we wish him the best of luck. He's not dead though, he's still out there so it's going to be okay, I think. I think so too. Yeah, but definitely keep listening to all of his shows, absolutely. And the Sandspan guys are great, and girls, they're great. So, you know, it's a great going to be okay, I think. I think so too. Yeah, but definitely keep listening to all of his shows. Absolutely. And the Sandspan's guys are great, and girls. They're great. So, you know, it's a great place to be

and I'm sure there's a number of people listening to this who also listen to a number of shows over there. So terrific stuff. But yeah, he will be missed, but he's not dead. So that's good. That's true. I choose not to miss him because he's still around. That's right.

And we can still talk to him. That's right. Yeah. All right. But yeah, don't yell at him about not approving your posts because he's still around. That's right. And we could still talk to him. That's right. Yeah. Alright. But yeah, don't yell at him about not approving your posts because he's not doing that anymore. That's because he's... Why would he? Yeah. So I

just want to also say that the baby that Claire is having, which is also my baby, I hope. To the best of your knowledge, yes. It's any time over the next two weeks. So there could be no episode because I disappear or maybe Mason does well with someone else,

but also maybe not because we can't catch up with anybody else. That's true, yeah. So if there isn't an episode, that's probably why. I don't know. I just want to let people know. We're not planning to stop doing this, but things happen, don't they? Yeah.

We're also not planning to stop forever. So presumably. Are you sure? We'll never stop. Okay, good. We'll never ever stop. So forever. So presumably. Are you sure? We'll never stop. Okay, good. We'll never ever stop. So if anything, there might be a week. But we'll figure something out.

Figure something out. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. What else though? Thank you everybody for listening and subscribing. Telling a friend, even if it's on a Zoom meeting. We don't mind. We don't mind at all.

You know what? If you're thinking about changing your Zoom background, maybe you're at work, you're teleworking, maybe change your background to the Weekly Planet logo. Definitely appreciate that. And if you're not wearing pants, do not stand up because everyone will be like... They'll see your genitals.

That's what they'll say. That's right. And then they'll associate your genitals with the Weekly Planet podcast, which might be good, but it might be bad. We don't want to take that chance. We don't want to take the risk, really. Yeah.

You know where we're at. Unless you have like A-plus genitals, in which case. But who does? Well, I mean. You know what I mean? I don't know. Maybe you work in pornography. Yeah, but even then.

It's a mixed bag, isn't it? You're having a Zoom meeting about your upcoming pornography. That's fine then. That's fine. I think you're not going to be wearing pants. That's a different scenario. Exactly, right? Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. But we can review the show, can't we? Well, we can. Yeah, if you'd like to leave a nice review, that'd be terrific, James. You have one right there. I've got a couple here. You can do it in-app. It really helps the show.

There's a couple of five-star ones here that I've picked up. Oliver223T says, great podcast, but I... It says, can James or May so dunk a basketball? Great podcast, but I don't think either of the hosts could dunk a basketball on a 10-foot ring. It's very true. You have a basketball ring. I have a basketball ring. And you have a teeny tiny small one for your son that's for me also they're both for me oh we do uh we play basketball we should do some hobbit style forced perspective where we both dunk on the little basketball no I can't I think there might have been a time when I could maybe touch a basketball ring but I certainly couldn't now

I definitely have never been able to dunk. I presume you are the same, or maybe you're the best basketball dunker. You know on a pair of Nike Air Jordans, there's a little jump man. That's me. I think that's, isn't that Michael Jordan? No, that's me. Isn't that Air Michael Jordan? It's not Air Michael Jordan, no.

But you're not actually even dunking, though. You're just in the air. So you didn't answer my question. Can you dunk or not? The logo isn't him doing a dunk. It's him flying. So can you fly? Yeah.

Yeah. That's him. And by him, I mean me. That's me in my victory float after I've dunked many basketballs. But you're still holding a ball. Yeah. I've already dunked one.

I got two hands, don't I? God. Got two hands on a ring, don't I? That's right. Yes. Okay. Well, that answers that question question one of us can dunk yeah uh uh another one says oh no just quickly dax lusty says feel good podcasting

at its finest really great guys putting out really great content that'll take your mind off your worries for a couple of hours a week what more could you want it's true thank you very much anyway please continue uh if you'd like to get a hold of us, you can go to Weekly Planet Pod at Gmail, at Facebook, at Twitter, at Bandcamp. You can also go to planetbroadcasting.com. You can see all the shows on the Planet Broadcasting Network. You can sign up to our newsletter from the great Rob Collings.

You can see all the memes, because Claire posted a picture of me when I was a little boy. That's where I was going to go with that. If you go to the Planet Broadcasting Great Mates Facebook group, Claire put up a photo of you as a child looking perturbed. Yes. And there's a lot of people. People have really outdone themselves.

This week, just putting up some James is a little kid memes. They're very funny. That face pretty much sums up my entire childhood. Just like uncertain of everything. Because when I was a kid, I was like, I don't understand anything. Why are adults like weird? Is it me? You know what I mean? How do you interact with people when you're a kid, I was like, I don't understand anything. Why are adults weird? Is it me? You know what I mean?

How do you interact with people when you're a little kid? I hope I meet this guy on the side of my Air Jordans, my little Air Jordans. My hero, yeah. But then growing up, you realize everyone's a fucking weirdo and no one knows what they're doing. And you can say anything and it doesn't matter. That's true, yeah. Just be nice.

But really. You can lie about your presence on the side of some Air Jordans if you want. Who will call you on it? No one. No one will do it because it's the truth. I'm with you, Mason. Thank you. If you would like to support the show, you can go to patreon.com slash MrSundayMovies

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It's a Pokemon card in a little folder. That's essential. Is it? Yeah. Who are you Pokemon carding with though? Other Pokemon masters?

Yeah, but you can't. Social distancing is a trick. Put it on Zoom. Do it on Zoom. No. Zoom. No.

Really? Pokemon is a social in-person game. Wow. The game was built around interaction and I will not hear a word against it. Except at that time. Have it in a new game. Wow. The game was built around interaction and I will not hear a word against it.

Except at that time. How about a new app, Pokemon Don't? The longer you stand still, the more Pokemon you collect. Wow. Yeah. I'd probably win that. What's next?

Let me think. We've got some t-shirts on tpublic.com. We've got USB tapes with all the best subs in the countries and all kinds of stuff. That's right. Thank you to The Brute and The Basilisk and Rackham for all our musical themes. If you want to contact me, I'm WikipediaBrown on Twitter,

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We might just do whatever. But actually, input would be great because we want to make it worth people's while. Yeah. Anything else? That's the whole show, I reckon. Yeah. Kim Jong-un is dead, maybe. Are you putting that in?

You're putting that in the podcast? It keeps popping up in my feed. Oh, yeah? I just don't know what else. What do you say about it? Wow. Other than, I fucking hope he is dead. I mean,'t know what else, what do you say about it? Wow. Other than I fucking hope he is dead. I mean, I don't think that's particularly controversial, is it?

Am I rattling some cages, Mason? You're rattling so many cages. Wow. Wow. That horrible monster of a band, yeah. All right, that's the show. Grab that gem, you guys. We will see you next week.

Goodbye. Wade, you could have said that we're in sync, like the band in sync. I only talk about bands that I know. Oh, okay, yeah, sure, sure. They were also a boy band they sang in harmonies. Yeah? And their name literally was NSYNC. I thought you said NSYNC.

Yeah, that's what I mean. It sounds like... I-N-S-I-N-K. They were NSYNC. Oh, no, no, no. Were they like little babies being bathed in a sink? No, they were fully grown men. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But they're a boy band, you said a sink? No, they were fully grown men. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But they're a boy band, you said. They're boys. You've got me there. I don't know. I don't think... I think this is made up. I mean, your Air Jordan story

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