The Weekly Planet - 337 Best & Worst Director Cuts
Episode Date: June 1, 2020Joshua Murch Fundraiser: https://paypal.me/pools/c/8pyuUowyokThis week we mourn the loss of Josh Murch, husband, father and great mate. With no appropriate segway from that we move into the news of th...e week including how they crashed a real plane fr Tenet, Doug Liman directing Tom Cruise in space, James Mangold on board for Indiana Jones 5, Ryan Gosling is The Wolfman,a sequel for the Labyrinth, the return of Henry Cavill as Superman and more news on the extended cut of Justice League and Suicide Squad. Thanks for watching and stay safe.00:00 RIP Josh03:48 Intro05:48 Christopher Nolan crashed a real plane for TENET.08:46 Doug Liman directing Tom Cruise in space movie.12:14 James Mangold confirmed for Indiana Jones 5.15:40 Ryan Gosling is The Wolfman.20:45 Scott Derrickson for Labyrinth sequel.22:21 Every week forever this is never gonna stop faaaark me.23:23 David Ayer's Suicide Squad cut.30:40 Henry Cavill returning as Superman.35:04 Rumours that J. J. Abrams will direct Superman.39:52 Marvel fan creates chronological cut.42:20 Best/Worst Director's Cuts01:27:26 What We Reading/What We Gonna Read01:31:00 Letters It’s Time For LettersJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP Itunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 TWP Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanet TWP YouTube Channel ► https://goo.gl/1ZQFGH Amazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2QbmwGjT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Hi, everyone.
Normally, we don't start the show like this.
There's a song.
There's a song that people don't like that I've been thinking about getting rid of and it didn't kind of seem
appropriate to start the show the regular way because we want to talk about the death of a
listener of this show and do go on and a member of the Great Mates group called Joshua Murch
who recently passed away from COVID and we just wanted to kind of breed a bit of information
and talk to you guys about that and what kind of person he was and what he's left behind and also a donation link which we'll talk about more towards the end of
this if people are interested in uh in donating so i've been speaking to somebody uh like his
mate chris uh through the group as well who's been passing on this information from his family
and friends which i really appreciate because i know that's a really difficult thing to do to
act as an in-between for that but he's handled it really well and i really appreciate because I know that's a really difficult thing to do, to act as an in-between for that. But he's handled it really well, and I really appreciate him doing that
because it's given us a better idea of who Joshua was as a person,
and so we just want to share a bit of that up top at the start of the show,
if that's okay.
So from Josh's family, they say,
Thank you to everyone for all the messages, kind words,
and love you've been sharing.
It means so much.
Josh's family would like to raise money towards a garden
at the Royal Cornwall Hospital.
Trust Critical Care Unit in his memory rather than flowers or cards.
There's a link below if people would like to donate to that.
That would be much appreciated.
But, of course, as Maarten and I were talking about before the show,
there's a lot going on in the world.
People are doing it tough all over the place.
Things are not great the world over.
As my gran would say, things are crook and tell a rook.
I don't know where that is.
No, I think maybe she was making it up.
Oh, my God.
Well, that's fictional, so it doesn't even exist.
That is crook.
Yeah.
So he actually, he leaves behind his wife, Hope,
who were recently married, and his daughter, Penny.
His best man at his wedding, Darren, left this message as well on the page, which I might get Mason to read out,
because I tried to read it earlier and I couldn't quite get through it.
So if you could do that, that would be terrific.
I'll give it a crack, absolutely.
So it says here, him and his partner, Hope, got married on Saturday after the consultants gave the news that he probably wasn't going to make it.
It was all spur of the moment. Josh called me in the morning to ask if I would be his best man and
say a few words. They were married at just past midnight on Sunday, the 24th of May. Everything
about the group video call ceremony was incredible. The NHS staff were unbelievably accommodating and
helpful, while Josh and Hope were wed there and then in the quarantine hospital room. It says his bride was wearing full PPE and still looked phenomenal.
His sister is going to shave her hair to help raise money for the fundraising.
Yeah, that's right.
So thank you to the people who have sent over those messages.
I don't know what to say in these situations.
It's just horrible.
It's a horrible situation, but he just seemed like a lovely guy.
I mean, I guess all you can do is say that at least you got to spend time
with him.
What a person to know and be married to and be the daughter of and brother,
sister, father, all of those things.
I don't know.
I'm just rambling at this point.
But, yeah, the link is below if people do want to check it out.
So, look, again, you don't have to donate.
People are doing it tough everywhere in the world.
We know obviously the situation in the US,
but it's just things are, what are you, I don't know.
Crook.
Things are crook in that place that you mentioned.
Tellerook, yes.
Thank you.
So yeah, that's just, you know, be careful
and just look after yourself and people around you
and be kind.
I think that would be the most important message.
That's the number one takeaway from this, I think, yeah.
Okay, on with this other dumb thing that we do.
The dumbest thing.
The dumbest thing.
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Welcome back everybody to another episode of The Weekly Planet, where we talk movies
and comics and TV shows.
My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday.
With me as always is my co-host, Nick Mason.
What a week.
What a, yeah.
Big week.
Big week.
But we're just going to do the movie news, aren't we?
That's correct.
We're not going to think about anything else that is happening outside these four walls.
No.
Oh, three walls?
James, one of the walls has fallen down.
That was me.
It's the encroaching hordes that are coming at us right now.
I just wanted to extend the studio, actually.
That was a personal project that I shouldn't have started now.
No, wrong time for it.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
But, yeah, I mean, you probably heard the message up top, I'd imagine.
People don't listen to the show for us to discuss world events,
so we're just going to do the show.
I think we're just going to end there.
People don't listen to this show and I've been like, what?
What are we even doing?
Is this some sort of project to cheer me up, James?
That's right.
Now it's come to an end.
Is it working?
Yes.
I'm so cheery right now.
Yeah, just big week.
Big week. People who know will know. Yeah, which is everyone in the world yeah so uh we're going to do a topic this week as well and
i say that because we've already recorded it so that's great so that's that's already happening
because this week we're going to talk about uh chris nolan's real 747 that he crashed that's
right uh some tom cruise space news ind Indiana Jones 5, Superman and Justice League
and Suicide Squad news, and then extended cuts thing.
That thing that we already recorded.
Then I've got some letters.
Then we've got some letters.
And then I'm going to try and remember a thing that I watched this week.
That's right.
In other words, just the same rambling affair that we do every week.
That's right.
Excuse me.
Some would say it's stale.
I'd say it's comforting.
Yeah.
Like an old bit of bread.
Yeah, I was going to say an old stale donut, but bread is a better metaphor.
It's all good.
You know, just something you can, you know.
Something you can really bust a tooth on.
Have a bit of a nibble on it and then use it as a pillow, you know.
It's comforting and it's dry.
But be grateful that you've got some bread.
That's right.
Okay.
So a number of people sent this
through uh this week after we mentioned i was like what was that like a big miniature that they
crashed because that looked like a real 747 that christopher nolan crashed that's right and i i
sound ridiculous saying big miniature uh-huh because that sounds dumb sure but that is a thing
that exists yes uh they use them in lord of the rings specifically they're called 747s yes that's
right well i think there are planes in the background of some of those shots, but they're called bigatures.
So they're like...
But that's not what he did.
So Christopher Nolan, I've got a quote here.
He said, I plan to do this using miniatures
and set piece builds and a combination of visual effects
and the rest, he told Total Film,
we started to run the numbers,
it became apparent that it would actually be more efficient
to buy a real plane of the real size
and perform the sequence
for real in camera rather than build miniatures and go the CG route.
So we cashed in all our stunt vouchers, as I mentioned last week,
and they said, all right, fine.
That's really interesting as well.
The rest of the movie is just shot in a cubicle.
You blew the budget.
You bought a plane.
What world are we living in where crashing a real plane
is cheaper than building a fake plane?
Something that I remembered this week, similarly, as I understand it,
they also purchased a plane for Lost.
Yeah, right, okay.
Oh, that's right.
They did and they shredded it.
Yeah, they bought, I guess if you get one that it's at the end of its life,
I guess, you know, where they look at it and go, okay,
well, if we were going to service this to make it you know safe to fly it would cost this amount of money so it's really
not worth doing it again so we'll just sell it for scrap and we'll get about the same amount of
money for less work exactly kind of thing and i guess if it doesn't have to fly if it just has to
like do we know i guess the question would be like because you know obviously it looks like
the jet engines are working on the plane yes Yes. I wonder if that was this.
Like maybe there's no engines on it.
Yeah.
Like they sold it or, you know, non-functional engines,
just the shell or something.
Because I guess you wouldn't fuel it up and roll it in for real.
I mean, I say that.
But we said that last week, didn't we, right?
Maybe if we keep baiting Christopher Nolan,
he'll keep revealing tidbits until he's revealed the entire plot of the movie
and we won't have to see it.
And then the cinema industry
will collapse.
That's right.
As we've always wanted.
And then we can stop the show finally.
But, yeah, I mean maybe.
I don't think Christopher Nolan would ever film a movie the same time
as Tom Cruise is shooting his movie in space and accidentally knocks him
out of orbit into the sun.
I bet he wouldn't even.
He would never do that, would he?
No, he's too much of a gentleman.
But, yeah, I mean, maybe it's just a shell of a plane, you know,
like the lost plane they broke apart for parts,
and then it's just they've gotten some strong men with ropes
to pull it into the building.
You've seen them do that.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
Apparently it's not that hard once you get the plane moving.
Oh, once you get past the ocean.
Sure, yeah, that's right.
Yeah, once you get past the actual, the hardest bit, getting the plane moving.
Once it's moving.
Then you can't stop it.
Then you're in trouble.
That's right.
So anyway, I'm sure we'll find out during the week that it had all the engines and fuel
in it and maybe some of the crew.
That's right.
Yeah.
There you go.
What a world.
Doug Lyman is directing Tom Cruise.
I mentioned the Tom Cruise.
That Tom Cruise is, I mentioned the Tom Cruise thing because he's shooting a movie in space.
Didn't a SpaceX rocket blow up this week?
Yeah.
Tom Cruise wasn't on that.
I think they launched one.
Did it blow up?
Something blew up.
There's so much news.
So I'm just kind of, I'm out of the loop.
And I don't need messages about it.
What's going to happen is we're going to have a number of revelations
through this episode probably where we're like, is that real?
Oh, an Arrow guy.
Exactly, yeah, exactly.
So Doug Liman, he directed the first Bourne movie, Jumper,
which I think is an underrated, solid action movie.
I watched that a few months back.
It's good.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
You watched something a couple of months back for your own enjoyment.
I know.
Because you didn't mention it on the podcast.
I think I did actually.
Did you?
Okay.
Maybe I did.
But the movie Jump.
We certainly didn't produce any content out of it, James.
How dare you?
But Jump is solid, I feel.
Right.
Okay.
Look, I haven't gone back to it since.
We saw it at the cinema, obviously.
I'd seen it since.
But I think the fight scenes are creative and the premise is interesting.
And, yeah, I like it.
Oh, the only thing, yeah, okay, now it's coming back to me.
The only reason that I guess I've never given that movie another shot
is that for the whole movie, Samuel L. Jackson is the bad guy.
And he's like, I'm a part of a religion.
We're going to destroy you jumpers.
My whole life is built around you being horrible, inhuman monsters and I'm going to get you.
And at the end he's ruined somewhere and he's just got a face of like,
oh, you got me.
You got me, but I'll get you next time.
In a way I brought this up myself.
You cheeky jumper.
Oh, right.
I retract all my earlier statements about this holy war that I'm in.
Yeah, but he died there.
Oh, that's sad.
I mean, he would have, right?
Yeah, yeah.
How was he going to get out of that?
Well, he can't jump, can he?
I mean, he could physically jump, but he'd probably die that way as well.
That's right, exactly.
I also did Edge of Tomorrow, and I don't know if you saw American Made.
Did you see that one?
The recent Tom Cruise one where he's-
Where he's a gun runner or something?
Yeah, a drug smuggler for the CIA.
I didn't see that.
It's good.
You should totally watch it.
So yeah, so he's going to be the one working on this.
Tom Cruise is going to definitely die in space this time, the movie.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Have I glossed over all the plot details of this potentially?
I think all we know is that he's filming it in space.
Okay, great.
But don't worry, I will keep you updated.
Potentially.
As long as there is three walls and a floor.
That's right.
The roof's gone now.
Oh, no.
Of the studio.
I will keep you updated.
Potentially this is just another ad to implore people not to,
implore people to switch off motion smoothing on their TV.
Yeah, that's right.
Like he's risked death and decompression and exploding
and freezing in space so he'd be like, listen,
go to your parents' television, go into menu, go into settings,
go into video.
If they ask you what you're doing, tell them to get the fuck out.
Don't even, out don't even
don't have to engage with them yeah did you turn the motion smoothing off your tv i don't think
mine's on but i didn't check i went yeah i'm a little bit concerned that mine constantly switches
itself back on i feel like i've had to go back in a couple of times and switch it off and what i
think is maybe happening is when the firmware on the TV updates switches everything back on again.
I don't know.
Also, I can't tell.
I think I can, but maybe I can't because maybe it's on.
Yeah, it's strange.
Strange times in terms of TVs.
I was going to say something else.
That's why I said that.
I was padding for time until I thought of it, but I didn't think of it.
So it's still gone?
I guess we're just going to move on.
Okay.
It was about Tom Cruise.
We can go back.
We can find this. No, no, it's fine. If I think of it, I'll come. In space. Yeah. Elon Musk. You know what will happen? I guess we're just going to move on. Okay. It's about Tom Cruise. We can go back. We can find this.
No, no, it's fine.
If I think of it, I'll come.
In space.
Yeah.
Elon Musk.
You know what will happen?
I'll listen back to this and then I'll be like, no, I won't though.
But I won't.
Yeah, there you go.
James Mangold has confirmed, as we already knew, that he is indeed directing Indiana
Jones 5.
Sorry, Frank Marshall said that, who's the producer on this film.
Apparently, though, they're going to be making adjustments
for the current state of the world so we won't be seeing big crowd scenes,
no craft services.
So they're working on solutions so they can film this
in the safest way possible.
So I guess you're not going to have Harrison Ford walk under any door frames
or anything like that.
Yeah, right.
Make sure he doesn't touch any vehicles.
Yeah.
So, you know, things like that.
Just keeping it as safe as possible.
Keep them on the ground, Mason.
That's right.
Do you think Indiana Jones, this is great, by the way.
I think it's exactly what it needs.
Yeah.
Also, this week James Mangold tweeted,
somebody, a clickbait website, I think tweeted something like,
here's the intro to Logan you never saw.
You missed.
It's a completely unused version and it's fresh
and it's just a completely fresh alternate take.
Yeah.
And then he quote tweeted that and he's like, it's the same.
The same as what we released.
Yeah.
Same thing.
Because he did release like the fight choreography, right?
Yeah, yeah.
This is how we mapped it out.
Yeah, right.
And that wasn't supposed to be the start of the movie.
Yeah, right.
Obviously. I don't know. So, right. Like that, obviously.
I don't know.
So, yeah, what was I going to say?
Mangold.
Again, I've forgotten.
I don't know what I was supposed to come back to.
Harrison Ford.
Harrison Ford.
Things are good.
Yeah.
Indiana Jones.
Oh, yeah.
So do you think the character of Indiana Jones would have learned to fly in these years,
in these 60-odd years between movies that we've had?
Like personally? Yeah, no, the character of. Because, these years, in these 60-odd years between movies that we've had. Like personally?
No, the character of.
Because, you know, in-
You mean using a vehicle of some sort?
I mean, yes.
Not flying just-
No, no.
Yes, exactly.
Not under his own steam.
Not in some sort of whip-crack helicopter scenario.
Okay, right.
Don't get me wrong.
I love that.
But somewhere between uh last crusade
because maybe he did learn yeah yeah during um crystal skull we don't know because he didn't
fly a plane in that but do you think he would have learned or do you think he's just like
it's fine i reckon if you are gonna he's bold enough if you're trying to lure harrison ford
back to a movie franchise even one that maybe he does want to you know he's still interested in a
little bit i think if you're gonna you you could sweeten the pot by being like,
guess what Indy gets to do?
It's to fly a little plane.
Yeah.
What do you do, Harrison?
You fly little planes, don't you?
Come in here, buddy.
Come in here.
Come in the room.
We've locked you in.
Now sign the contract.
Do you think Harrison Ford would do a movie now where he goes to get in a plane
and he's like, but I don't know how to fly a plane and I'm a bad pilot.
Oh, you think pride would get in the way perhaps?
Do you think he'd do it?
I don't think he would.
I think he would because he's an actor.
Yeah, he's an actor.
It's right.
He'd pretend, wouldn't he?
He'd just pretend.
That's very good of Harrison Ford.
But that would be a fun twist, I think.
Yeah.
You know, they're in some sort of crash dive situation
as they often are in an Indiana Jones movie
and he's just like, I've been, I learned,
I spent 10 years learning how to fly.
Yeah.
Cause that time I couldn't, I'm kind of immortal.
I think maybe.
Yeah, absolutely.
Though I should, people will correct me.
He says he can fly a plane, but he can't land a plane.
Oh yeah.
Right.
Remember that?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Fly yes, land no.
That's right.
Yeah.
There you go.
Just in case, because you know, you know.
Now land yes, fly no.
I don't know what happened.
I took some kind of weird lessons, an opium den in whatever era this is.
Whatever era it is, yeah.
If I'm in a plane and it's going to crash,
which it probably is because I can't fly it now, I can land it.
Absolutely.
So everything's worked out.
All right, I'm going to say a series of words
and you tell me when this starts to sound bad.
Okay.
Variety, the publication. Good. and also a general variety of things sure as we know spice of life that's right
modern day okay i enjoy it well i mean generally speaking generally speaking it's good but i mean
could 2020 end already whoa he took his glasses off. Oh, yep. There we go. That's better.
But modern day, generally, I like my modern day conveniences.
My electric can opener.
Yeah, before the show.
I don't have that.
Everything's on a pool ring now.
You don't even need one.
Yep.
Until you do, though.
Until you really do.
My Kodachrome camera.
That's right.
You mentioned before the show you said smartphones,
and I said, what do you mean mean dumb phones? I did, yeah.
It was a good joke that we had.
We shared that joke.
Modern day references are good, as we've just proven, I think.
The movie Nightcrawler, you know, the Jake Gyllenhaal one.
These all things are going to come together.
The director of Bad Education, Corey Finlay.
Okay, sure.
He's the front runner for this project.
Ryan Gosling is the lead.
Oh. And this is for a Universal Pictures. Oh, I know, yeah. He's the front runner for this project. Ryan Gosling is the lead. Oh.
And this is for a Universal Pictures Wolfman.
Oh, I know.
Yeah.
I'll cut you off there because I already know what's coming up.
Yeah.
He's the Wolfman now.
Honestly, though, I think that all sounds great.
Yeah.
I think that's a good.
So for people who didn't put that together,
because why would I do a news story like that?
Just mixing it up.
Keep it fresh.
That was fun.
I liked it. I liked the game we played.
Thank you.
Variety reported that Universal Pictures have got Ryan Gosling
on board to star in The Wolfman.
I would have stopped you at Universal Pictures.
Yes, absolutely.
The bad education.
I would have stopped you at Universal and I would have been like,
choose your next words very carefully.
You better say run into the ground.
You better not say dark or universe here.
So I'm the director of potentially a bad education.
Have you seen that yet with Hugh Jackman?
It's terrific.
You should definitely watch it.
Which one is it again?
It's the one where he's a superintendent at a high school
and it's about funding and school funding,
but what if too much funding or not enough?
Okay.
Depending on the-
Is there a scandal?
There's a scandal, Mason.
Okay.
Without getting into it.
I like the season of The Wire that's set in the schools.
I've never seen The Wire.
I know.
Yeah, but I will.
But actually, I can't watch it because if it's not for this show,
I'm not allowed to watch it.
That's right.
Yeah.
And so like a Nightcrawler-esque modern day take on that.
So great, terrific, whatever that looks like.
So this is unconnected, I guess, from-
because Blumhouse are doing The Invisible Man,
which is also Dark Universe, but none of these are
seemingly connected, maybe, anymore.
Or now. Now, until they're all
fight crime together. If this one is successful,
I guarantee you that, and you know what?
I bet they're currently
like, how can we tie this together? Yeah, absolutely.
They're preemptively like, if this one hits
big at the box office, how do we
put them? Who's next?
Brighter Frankenstein.
Well, I think they are doing that, or they were.
I don't know.
They're doing a Monster Mash movie or something, or Monster Squad.
I don't know.
I don't know anything about this stuff.
But that's, I'm just, it's very interesting to me that Ryan Gosling would do that.
Yeah.
Because he could do anything.
He could do Drive 2.
That's true, yeah.
I mean.
Drive Control.
Drive Control.
It's this thing. The turny bit.
The turning thing. The round part.
You're not talking about the wheels, are you?
No, the steering wheel. A wheel of a
very different kind. That's right.
In a way, they're connected though, aren't they? They are. It's true.
Yeah, that's good. So there we go.
Through the circle of life. Yes. By that I mean the steering wheel.
That's what I call it. Do you remember not having
power steering in it? Have you ever had a car without power steering?
Yes, I have, yeah. It's like turning a bus.
Oh, my God.
It's a nightmare.
Remember how you try and take – because, by the way,
when we started driving cars, there should have been more power steering
than there was.
I think we just had old, terrible cars.
Yeah, I had an old, terrible car.
Yeah.
But, like, you'd try to, like, turn around in a court,
and it was like a three-point turn.
Oh, my God.
It's like a whole – people would come out of their houses
and look at you as you were doing it.
You're like, no, I'm not a bad driver.
It's just the car.
And they're like, we hate everything about this.
Yeah, and sometimes they'd cheer you on like it was a marathon
and they'd hand you cups of water as you're doing it.
Yeah, that's right.
It's a whole situation.
Here's an underrated feature of a car.
Sure.
You open the door.
You just leave it somewhere.
The door just stays wherever you've left it.
Yeah, right.
You just put it there because sometimes you open the door
and then it just swings closed on you.
Yeah.
It swings open on you.
That's true.
Yeah, that's really – because often also if you're getting out on a busy road,
you kind of want to be over that.
My boot has a thing, my car boot.
Yes.
It's a newer car and it's got the one where you've got to press the button.
It closes by itself.
I fucking hate it.
Like it's – because it takes forever.
You just can't slam it.
I can't slam it and I can't like yank it open because i'm always in a hurry i'm constantly late i'm never
not yeah yeah and it's just i mean you know it'd be funny if this was like you know one of those tv
shows where they had to like subtly insert like uh like a like a car ad in the middle where it's
like bones what are you doing oh i'm just enjoying my automated reverse parking in my new VW Sport or whatever.
What if it was that, but we've just been paid by car manufacturers
to promote like doors that stay when you open them?
Boots that you can open by yourself.
Yep, that's right.
Anyway, first world problems that my modern car boot opens
and closes by itself.
Yeah, lucky for some.
I know, right?
Scott Derrickson, who people might know from the last thing he did was Doctor Strange,
and he was working on the new Doctor Strange movie.
Now he's doing a labyrinth sequel, a movie that I saw too late and don't like.
A movie that I've never seen.
Okay.
And so it is definitively too late.
Yes.
I saw it when I was early 20s maybe.
So I was like, I get this. Like like i get this like this is a kid this
is all my wheelhouse and i love it yeah right but as an adult i'm like but james david bowie's in it
yeah he's good in it it's all good right yeah the little muppets jennifer connelly a baby gets
stolen the dream oh my god yeah you know yeah that's what i'm about so labyrinth sequel what
do you think uh i mean they recently did brought back the dark
crystal for netflix that's true they all puppetry so i think it will look amazing and it'll probably
be a faithful adaptation and this seems like the perfect guy to do it uh it's a shame you can't
obviously get bowie but um who do you get uh whichever guy in the flight of the concords did
that impression oh yeah well that guy we met that time that looked a lot like David Bowie.
You know that guy?
You know that guy I'm talking about?
I don't know that guy. What guy?
He was like that theatre guy.
Did we know him?
Did we talk to him?
He was a friend of a friend.
Did we talk to him?
No, but he looked like David Bowie.
Yeah, get him.
Yeah.
That guy.
Yeah.
Collings, who's editing this, could you just figure that out,
who that guy is?
He's very good at his job.
Just figure it out through our social medias, various,
the guy we've never met.
Yeah.
You'll twig later and you'll be like, oh, my God,
that guy who looked incredibly like David Bowie.
He was like a young guy.
He had like a wide head.
Like Bowie.
Yeah, like Bowie does.
And a skinny body like Bowie.
Yes.
Skinny body Bowie.
Skinny Bowie body.
Thin, white Duke Bowie.
Great.
Yeah, that's right.
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So this is the new segment
of the show called Every Week Forever.
This is never going to stop.
Fuck me. It's not a cut?
Yes. Okay, right. Even when
this is finished and the cut is out,
this will go on forever.
Remember how we thought Batman v Superman
news was over when that movie came out?
Yep.
Still happening, isn't it?
Well, this is what we need.
Yeah, you're right.
It keeps us young in a way.
As I think I mentioned somewhere earlier this week,
we started this podcast based on the anticipation of Batman v Superman.
You know why you mentioned it?
Because we recorded the Caravan of Garbage for Batman v Superman.
That's right.
They're starting on Tuesday with Man of Steel.
Yes.
Yeah.
So anyway, sorry, go on.
So maybe this is the shot in the arm this podcast needs.
Kaboom.
Yep.
Oh, not like a gunshot.
No.
No.
Who wants a gunshot to the arm?
I don't know.
That's why I was wondering why you would say that.
What you want is roids.
Yeah.
Just in the one arm.
Yeah, that's right.
Very good.
One big old arm.
Anyway, so.
But anyway, there's going to be Snyder Cut news now until the end of time.
Well, this is, I've got other things to go into, but this is all DC stuff.
So David Ayer, he's mentioned this on his cut of the Suicide Squad movie.
Uh-huh.
This is a good question.
My cut would be easy to complete.
It would be incredibly cathartic for me.
It's exhausting getting your ass kicked for a film that got the Edward Scissorhands treatment.
The film I made has never been seen of course his version was famously cut and changed into
a different thing by a uh a trailer editing company the perfect crime that's right yes um
again i don't hate that movie i think it's it's fine swells right down the middle for me yeah
boy is it um and i think didn't't he, because there were a number of,
I think this week he also, people pointed out a number
of the different trailers for Suicide Squad,
which again got increasingly wacky as the release date came closer.
And the font changed.
Yeah, and he said one of them was quite accurate,
but I could not tell you which one it was.
The first one, yeah.
Probably the first one.
He also said, of course course my cut isn't the uh
empathesis of filmmaking apotheosis yeah okay i've written that wrong here apologies uh it's
simply better than what the public has seen and yes it would make sense to update it and there's
rumors of course that that might be happening said the only battle of course that he won in the
filmmaking of that movie was Diablo killing his family.
Right.
Which I thought the Diablo character in that was, to me, the most interesting element of that movie.
I thought he was really compelling and interesting and had stakes.
And maybe he died in that?
I mean, sure.
But only in the way that comic book characters die in which, you know, they're pretty much reduced to ash and that doesn't mean anything because they can obviously come back from that.
Yeah, cool.
and that doesn't mean anything because I can obviously come back from that.
Yeah, cool.
He said also he planned to link it directly into Justice League Part 1 and Part 2.
So him and Zack Snyder collaborated on that so they'd all feed
into each other, which also makes sense because Ben Affleck is in that movie
and then shows up at the end and is like,
I'm putting together a team or something.
That happens in that movie, doesn't it?
That's right, yeah.
He says, I'm putting together a team.
Right at the end, yeah, he says, yeah, pretty much. Yeah,, I'm putting together a team. Yeah, he says, yeah, pretty much.
Yeah, speaking of somebody putting together a team.
Oh, I was going to say, just before you go into that,
David Ayer's most recent tweet, somebody has tweeted at him,
Justice League had an entire, or maybe it's just a general tweet,
it says, Justice League had an entire change in direct
and plot details.
Suicide Squad's editor might have changed,
but Trailer Park was still working with footage filmed under Ayer's control,
and he's just written wrong.
Okay, great.
So, yeah, I think I was sort of under the impression even as recently
as a couple of weeks ago that David Ayer was like,
it is what it is kind of thing.
Well, he did say that initially.
Yeah.
And I guess because he didn't want to be, I mean,
because he never mentioned it at the time.
Yeah.
Like it was kind of well known that that wasn't his movie,
but he never kind of came out and was like,
and they took my film and they butchered it,
but I think they must be working towards something if he's starting now
to open up about it a bit more.
It gets people talking about it.
It's good for marketing.
Apparently HBO Max Go, whichever one it's called, and it's terrible. Like there's a launch uh hbo max go which one it's called
and it's terrible like there's a bunch of stuff missing and the app is broken i've heard bad
things like that was like a bad launch that's a slam dunk idea which i think i might have even
said last week oh and i mean it doesn't really matter because they'll release things along the
way which people will jump on board for but there's also nothing new in it at the moment
like there's nothing in it that you'd go, oh, I haven't seen that
because it's exclusive to this app.
Yeah, right, exactly.
It doesn't exist.
Yeah, yeah.
What you need is a Quibi.
You need a Quibbly.
Yeah.
Is that what it's called?
A Quibbly, yes.
That's right.
Quibney.
Well, Quibi obviously was originally built just to, you know,
just for short quibbles.
Yes.
So if you wanted to, it was to, you know.
Between tiny littlebles. Yes. So if you wanted to, it was to, you know, video. Between tiny little men.
Exactly.
You could videotape your arguments between yourself
and another tiny little man and submit it to Quibbly
and they would put it up there for you.
Okay, so this is, Dave.
No, seriously, that's a good idea for an app.
Let's do it.
Tiny men fighting.
Yeah, right.
Oh, in the app?
Yeah, you submit
I'm not talking violent
I'm talking like a little
like a little
maybe people vote
maybe it could be like
you know reddit's like
am I the arsehole
thing
you submit a video
you have a little quibble
yeah
and then people
upvote and downvote it
and they have opinions
and they comment
in a way it's like YouTube
but with less functionality
and it's vertical
and it's vertical
and it's always constantly giving you alerts and. And it's vertical. And it's vertical.
And it's always constantly giving you alerts and you can't switch them off.
Okay, so this is the tweet that I was talking about.
Okay.
So somebody said to him,
the I Started a Joke trailer is the greatest isolated piece
of Suicide Squad content.
And David Ayers said, this is 21 hours ago,
this trailer nailed the tone and intention of the film I made.
Methodical, layered, layered complex beautiful and sad after the bbs reviews shell shocked the leadership at the time and the
success of deadpool my soulful drama was beaten into a quotes comedy yeah yeah so but he didn't
there were no reshoots on that right did they just tweak what they had uh well it says there's
another there's another tweet directly under that,
and it's talking about a scene with the Joker in it.
Yeah, right.
It says this was reshot because the tone was too dark.
Oh, I guess they did then.
But I don't know if it was reshot by somebody else
or if they made him reshoot it.
Yeah, right.
For example, it doesn't specify.
Okay, fair enough.
Interesting.
So, look, I would say if he's starting to talk about it,
that's probably the worst.
He says here, yeah, there were real scenes with incredible acting
between Jared and Margot.
Joker was terrifying.
Harley was complex, which I think we already knew.
Yes.
It very much seemed in that theatrical release that there was a whole long
Harley-Joker subplot.
There was like 45 minutes or whatever.
Yeah, and based on especially on what Jared Leto said about it
and his reaction once the movie came out. He got real pissy. Yeah, he got on especially on what Jared Leto said about it and his reaction once the movie came out.
He got real pissy.
Yeah, he got real pissy.
There was apparently, you know, maybe hours of footage
or, you know, a whole movie's worth of plot around those two characters
that they just went, man, it's not funny, so out it goes.
Yeah, well, God forbid, right?
Yeah.
There you go.
All right.
Anyway, I say re-edit movies forever.
Yeah. It sounds like I'm kidding, but I'm kind There you go. All right. Anyway, I say re-edit movies forever. Yeah.
It sounds like I'm kidding, but I'm kind of on board with this now.
Look, I think.
Because you know why?
It's not my money.
I don't care.
Yeah.
I think it's also, it's going to get to a point where they're going to be like, they're going
to get down to movies where it's like, we don't, you can stop this now.
Oh yeah, for sure.
I think there's like a handful of movies that you actually would do this for.
Yeah.
But then when they get down to other, because I know.
Original Recipe Sonic. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No get down to other, because I know. Original recipe Sonic.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No,
I think people want to see that.
Would you want to see that?
Look at,
and again,
it's,
it's gonna,
but again,
because it's this,
it's,
it's just Hollywood being Hollywood and feeding this machine where it's like,
speaking of Deadpool,
where,
you know,
as soon as Deadpool was a success,
they're like,
all right,
more R rated superhero movies.
Let's,
let's churn it out.
Now it's going to be like,
all right,
more reedits of existing movies. Let's churn them out. Now it's going to be like, all right, more re-edits of existing movies.
Let's churn them out until we get to one that isn't.
Then people are like, we have zero interest in this.
And then they'll be like, whoop, we went too far now.
What's the next trend?
Yeah, exactly.
Oh, Green Lantern, re-edit of Green Lantern.
I'd watch it probably.
Just get Ryan Reynolds and Taika Waititi in a room.
I like it.
Get them to put up,
get them,
make them up.
So they look like their,
their selves in whenever they came out 2013 or whatever it was.
2011.
Ah,
whatever.
Yeah.
And just have them riff in a room.
Yeah.
Cause I think it's funny cause every time they get together now,
they pretend like they've never met.
Yeah.
Which I really enjoy.
I enjoy that ongoing joke.
Yeah.
Anyways,
apparently this is from Deadline.
Henry Cavill is in talks to come back as Superman.
What they say is he could come back in a number of different ways,
not in a standalone film, though I've got more information on that.
He could come back in a car.
He could come back in a plane.
He could come back on a Segway.
Yes.
That's so very Superman.
He could tunnel up from under the earth.
Yeah.
If you're looking to bring back Superman 2013,
on a Segway would be the perfect. I think so, yeah. superman 2013 on a segue would be the perfect
don't you think that would be the perfect segue could have its own little cape yes that's right
uh but there are uh the so would the segue have the cape up here yes that's right a couple of
capes so but comicbook.com have said that it seems like he might act as like the hulk in the mcu
or a nick fury type where he makes cameos.
So what I don't understand about that is necessarily,
let's say he shows up in Aquaman 2 and he's like,
I'm putting together a team.
And Aquaman's like, yeah, I'm in it.
I'm in that team.
We already had an adventure.
Yeah.
So comicbook.com is saying this.
Look, I sometimes respect their opinions and their skips.
But what I'm saying is that if you make Superman that character,
then it's just a series of hasty explanations as to why he's not helping
out in that exact scenario.
Yeah, right.
Like Aquaman's like, oh, this oil tank is sinking,
and Superman has to be like, well, it's good to see you,
but I can't help you at all because Kryptoniteptonite is kryptonite in the water yeah so i've
got to go i won't i won't obviously be having anything to do with that i like the idea of him
showing up to different members of the existing justice league and asking them to return it's like
wonder woman where i'm putting together a team uh-huh and again she's like yes the team that i'm
on yeah i'm still on it i still have the membership card yeah or maybe he'd be like well there's a new
membership card but i don't have any on me.
So you'd have to come back
to the headquarters
and I'll give you
a new membership card.
Or maybe...
You've got a points balance
still on your membership card.
So if you want to exchange that
for things...
Yeah, we'd really appreciate it.
What do you like?
Ancient art?
I've got some.
I've got some.
You can trade it in with your points.
I can also just steal you some
but it won't matter
because no one will stop me.
I can do anything.
I'm a god in this universe.
Maybe though because he died, his brain isn't right.
Perfect, yeah.
So they've mentioned maybe it's going to be the ones that they haven't filmed yet.
So it won't be the Batman, which is currently filming.
It'll be like your Akamu and your Shazam 2.
Wonder Woman's already done, unless they do an extra thing.
So what's a scenario in which he could come back
and it wouldn't seem weird and out of place?
Advice?
He goes to the proof.
I think Shazam would be a good opportunity.
Yeah, yeah.
Because, you know, I mean, he was sort of in that movie.
You saw that clip, I assume.
The one the director.
David F. Sandberg.
He put up.
It was a re-edit.
It's Henry Cavill.
It's the final scene of that movie where we –
originally Superman shows up, you don't see his face,
but in this version it pans up and he's got a very long neck.
It's funny.
It's funny stuff.
It's so great.
Yeah, Shazam.
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah.
Because that happens in the comics a lot.
Well, see, that's the thing.
That's kind of where I was going with that.
It's that it makes more sense that Superman could show up
and cameo in a Shazam movie
because all of Shazam slash Captain Marvel's opponents
are magical in a lot of instances.
You know, in the comic books, that's traditionally
where Superman has a big weakness.
So he wouldn't just be like, well, I could just show up
and beat all these people up and leave.
I can show up and give you some advice.
And then get beaten up.
And then I'll get beaten up, exactly.
And he'd be like, well, I've got to go, but good luck kind of thing.
So that would work, I guess.
Yeah, totally.
So the idea behind that is also The Rock for years has been talking about how this character
could beat up Superman and whatever.
So I think he's also been kind of teasing that a version of Superman will be involved.
Oh, right.
And the Black Adam movie, who knows?
Because that's a different movie from Shazam 2.
Because Shazam has kind of a lighter tone as well.
Yeah.
You could presumably have them have a battle
and then Superman gets punched into space.
Yes.
And then he's out of the rest of the movie.
Yeah.
Like that wouldn't be, people wouldn't be champing the bit being like,
when's Superman going to come back and fix this?
You'd be like, you just cut to him floating around in orbit.
I think people would go insane if they punched Superman out of a fire.
I know.
But this version of Superman can be knocked out.
Yeah.
Yeah, so, you know, whatever.
You can write it whatever way you want.
I guess you could also say, okay, you could even maybe say that, you know,
Superman came back at the end of Justice League
but then his powers are on the fritz or he used them all up to defeat Steppenwolf
or something like that so you can have him as a depowered Superman
for appearances where he's like, I'm just
here as Clark Kent.
Maybe.
I don't know.
Yeah.
That's what people want to see.
Yes, exactly.
Yeah.
But John Camp, you actually mentioned over on his YouTube channel that don't take it
as like 100% fact, but this is the rumblings.
The JJ Abrams, who we know has signed a deal with Warner Brothers and DC, is going to be
probably directing the Superman movie.
Superman in some form, not really 100% on the actor yet,
but the speculation is that it's probably Cavill at this point.
Yeah, right.
Because it would be smarter marketing-wise.
Henry Cavill is a bigger star now than he's ever been.
That's true.
Physically and from a-
And emotionally.
He's grown.
Emotionally bigger, that's right.
Yeah, so, I mean, you wouldn't recast it unless you had to,
unless it was too much money or, I don't know,
he got cancelled for choking somebody, say, potentially.
Did he do that, James?
No, another member of the Jazz.
No, I know.
Okay, good, yes.
So that's the current thinking on that at the moment.
How do you feel about a J.J. Abrams Superman movie? Good, actually. Bearing in mind he was going to do Superman Flyby. He wrote Flyby, but he also mentioned, and we've got a thinking on that at the moment. How do you feel about a J.J. Abrams Superman movie?
Good, actually.
Bearing in mind he was going to do Superman Flyby.
But he also mentioned, and we've got a video on that,
but he also mentioned-
But he also ruined Star Wars.
Yeah, but he also made a really good Star Wars, I think.
Yeah, that's true, yeah.
And look, I know he kind of gets flack from us included,
but he can make and has made great movies.
That's true, yeah.
And I think he's probably got the right tone and kind of sentiment
and understanding of the character to do a good Superman movie,
if he indeed is doing one.
And also what helps is that most of the Superman mythos is fairly set
in stone and he can't just mystery box us for an entire movie.
That's true.
What's in the Phantom Zone, he says.
And we're like, Zod, he went in there.
Zod's probably in there, yeah.
That's right.
No, he died actually, didn't he?
Yeah.
There's a rubber Zod in that Fallout movie.
Yeah.
Remember rubber Zod?
Yeah.
We didn't mention that in the video.
I feel like we should have mentioned rubber Zod.
There was so much ground to cover in that video.
It's the longest video we've ever made.
Oh.
Yeah.
And the best?
No.
That's a shame.
Ben will make it the best.
Yeah, for sure.
If anything.
So to be honest though, I'm really happy if he pops up in
things but i want a superman movie i just nice if they got one right please and i think i honestly
think jj abrams would be a very good fit do you feel the same i think so too yeah and he and you
know just and at this point i think we're like we're brushing away any prior continuity that
doesn't people don't like yep we're just moving out of it so just yeah and again you know and there are there are plenty of superman stories in the comic
books that i love and plenty that are pretty average and i don't go well i can't see how this
next superman story will be any good if that last one was bad you just go just move forward make it
standalone it'll be fun do you remember the one where he walked across America? Yeah. Yeah, but I think you're right.
If he can get the tone right, if he can make it, you know,
Christopher Reeve-y but not stuck in the past.
Yes.
Use Cavill.
You're talking about like the optimism.
Yeah, the optimism, exactly.
And the shooting lasers out of your eyes.
That's all you need.
And the freeze breath.
Yes.
Which they did put in Justice League.
And the S that comes off your chest.
Cellophane S.
Cellophane S, yeah.
Could he only use that because he was in the Fortress of Solitude?
Because remember he used holograms and stuff as well?
It's a bit vague, isn't it?
Isn't it?
Yeah.
Yeah, I like that movie.
Could he only...
We're talking about Superman 2, by the way.
Could he only rebuild the Great Wall of China with his eyes
because he was in China?
Maybe.
Something with the polar caps, I'd imagine.
How close you are to the equator.
Okay, right.
So in the south of the equator, you can use rebuild walls with your eyes.
Yes.
North of the equator, you can use cellophane S.
And the middle, chainsaw hands.
Yeah, I thought you'd mixed up your equators, but you hadn't.
I'd mixed my equators up.
That's right.
Yeah.
Great stuff.
Justice League apparently is expensive.
Oh, it's more than $30 million, apparently.
Well, you did add it to that video.
I got Collings to add it, so we didn't get comments about it,
but we still did.
WarnerMedia chairman Bob Greenblatt said,
I wish it was just $30 million.
That's how he said it uh
we had to go through unions and get certain things clear with them about what we were doing uh is
this night to cut a new movie or is it a recap there's lots of complexity that the fan community
doesn't know about which makes sense it's not just put money into special effects and redubbing lines
and whatever writing lines yeah it's you gotta It's a new thing and that changes everything.
And if you use somebody's pre-existing visual effects on a new thing,
you've got to pay them again.
You've got to give them $100 cash in hand.
Exactly, yeah.
If you had some surly union like grips on set originally to stand around,
be surly.
You've got to get them back in.
You've got to get them back in, that's right.
To stand around in the editing booth and be like,
they have to wear the same plaid shirt rolled up with the sleeves.
So you've got to pay for that dry cleaning and sort all that out,
obviously.
It's all about continuity, even behind the scenes,
is what I'm saying, Mason.
It all counts.
You can feel it, even if you don't know it was there.
Absolutely, you can, yeah.
But that is all the news.
Unless you've got more news, there's probably more news.
I feel like I've missed news this week.
You may have missed news, but that's okay.
Did you see a fan, a rabid fan of the Marvel movies
put every single scene in Marvel movie history
into chronological order, right?
I skimmed it.
I'm like, I can't with this right now.
Here's the thing.
Hang on.
I'll see if I can find it.
It's very impressive.
Don't get me wrong.
I got to this and it went, one, Prologue of Thor, Hang on, I'll see if I can find it. It's very impressive. Don't get me wrong. That's not, yeah.
I got to this and it went one, Prologue of Thor, The Dark World,
obviously thousands of years ago.
Sure.
Infinity whatever's.
What's next?
Two, Flashback Sequence of Thor Ragnarok.
And at that point I'm like, I'm not really sure what that is,
to be honest.
Celestial stuff, is it?
No.
Probably maybe Hela.
Maybe Hela in the past.
They're trapping her in a thing. How would you know when the Celestials and the Stones from Guardians of the Galaxy and
the flashback?
Like, what's that from?
Or would you put-
That's number seven.
The prologue of Guardians of the Galaxy.
Oh, wait.
Prologue of Guardians of the Galaxy volume two.
But-
Nine is prologue of Guardians of the Galaxy.
Yeah, but also that prologue is actually in real time and they're watching a video of
the past.
Oh.
Do you see what I'm saying?
I do see what you're saying.
If you're showing a flashback on a monitor in a screen,
for example, like Bucky killing Tony Stark's parents,
because they're watching on a monitor, what are you doing there?
I guess if there wasn't a scene, unless it cut to the scene.
It did cut to the scene.
Then you would have to put those separately, I think.
But then Lincoln with a bit of red string.
Lincoln, Abraham Lincoln. Yes, Abraham Lincoln a bit of red string. Lincoln, Abraham Lincoln.
Yes, Abraham Lincoln's also involved, yes.
Great, terrific.
Yeah, okay, so that's all good and...
Good for you, Tony Goldmark.
You've done it again for the first time.
So the next step is obviously somebody's going to put these in actual order.
Oh, yeah.
Like take the scenes and actually...
I wonder what that would actually play like.
Nonsense, I'd imagine.
I think so, nonsense, yeah.
I mean, you'd eventually get to the point where movies,
you'd just be playing whole movies, but then you'd get stuff like,
you know, like Ant-Man and the Wasp also happens at the same time
as Infinity War maybe?
Oh, so you'd have to watch them on multiple monitors at the same time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, very good.
Okay, I like that.
Yeah, you like things, and that's great.
Like a bad Zoom meeting.
You've just got to start watching multiple ones.
That's right.
Exciting.
Now let's pause so we can segue naturally into a thing that we will now talk about.
Oh, we're going to talk about it now?
Yep.
Mason, all this talk of extending cuts of things,
where they'll take a movie that people aren't very happy with
and make a potentially slightly better version of that.
Certainly longer.
Certainly longer.
Not always, as we'll talk about, because I do want to talk
about extended cuts slash director's cuts of movie cuts.
Do you feel like there is a difference between extended cut
and director's cut?
I mean, the words are different.
The words are certainly different.
There would be, wouldn't there?
The intent is often different.
Yes, I see what you're saying.
Yes, I believe there is.
What would you put that down to?
And my guess would be in a lot of instances the director's
cut is a shorter cut sometimes you would sure yeah surely the you know the veteran directors
know enough to know that not everything they make is necessarily going to be genius yeah or you know
they will do alternate takes or scenes that don't work once they've been filmed or finished or what
have you and then the inclination would be to cut everything out like i know there are plenty of directors out there
who learn that their movie has been given an extended cut they're like i wouldn't have done
this yeah exactly because often it's just used to sell like a different version of it to extend it
out a director's cut is very much a different thing where it's like well like this wasn't
exactly what i wanted to do at the time necessarily but there's different variations on that i actually
took a couple of quotes from some famous directors from Wikipedia.
People think that we don't research, but I skimmed this.
You put in the director's name and you click on it and you hope it's a page
that immediately leads you to what you were looking for in the first place.
And if it doesn't, you don't bother.
To be fair, I did actually do a fair bit of research into this.
This first part, not as much because it is just on Wikipedia.
But James Cameron says,
what I put into theatres is the director's cut.
Nothing was cut that I didn't want cut.
All the extra scenes we've added back in are just a bonus for the fans.
And I think he said that about Avatar in particular
because he does have some other extended cuts of things
or director's cuts.
What do we want to call it?
We're going to mix that up in this.
Don't even worry about it.
Yeah, so I think that's an interesting idea that for directors that often the version that
goes to cinema is like, well, this is the tightest version of this that there can be.
But at the same time, I think that is only afforded to certain directors.
Auteurs.
Yes.
Like your James Cameron.
Like your Christopher Nolan.
Jinx, you can't say anything else for the rest of the episode.
Fuck you.
Then I'm leaving.
Fuck this shit.
I'm going to need this.
Oh no.
I called his bluff and he did exactly what I would have done
if he'd said jinx.
Oh, no.
But, yeah, I guess if you are kind of a journeyman director
who just takes a job, wants to make the best product they can
but is not invested in it as a creator of that thing,
I guess they would be like sure
yeah or even if they are and then the version that goes to cinema is like well i didn't want
this version yeah which we've seen happening but i got the money so so whatever yeah i'm rich and
that's how do you feel about just an extended cut of anything generally uh generally interesting
because i think it shows,
it can often highlight the reasons why they're not in there.
Yep.
And often also like a home release can act as an entirely different thing,
which can be a good thing.
I've got another quote here if you don't mind me doing quotes,
which I am.
Peter Jackson talks about how he considers the theatrical cut
of Lord of the Rings and the Hobbit
trilogies to be the final director's cut, but within the constraints of a theatrical
distribution. The extended cuts, which we will talk about famously that he's made for
these six movies, they're produced for fans of the material so they could see all the
shots and develop more of the script to make it close to J.R.R. Tolkien's original vision
and it was cut for running time and other issues.
See, that's my question.
My next question would be, if you like an extended cut,
how often have you watched an extended cut?
Sure.
And that is my question to you, James.
It's an actual question.
It's not hypothetical.
Oh, well, look, I think we should start on Lord of the Rings
because I think the Lord of the Rings movies that are in cinemas are terrific yeah as is yeah that being said whenever I watch them again which to be fair I
haven't done in quite a long time which I do want to get back to because I want to cover him for
Caravan of Garbage at some point but you'd watch the extended version 100% that's interesting yeah
I think they're and not not that they're better movies but I don't mind that the fact that there
is more of them because it does help flesh out the story not in major ways that necessarily affect the flow or certain characters but at the same time you get
things like the death of saruman is not in the like christopher lee doesn't appear in that final
movie theatrically but then you see him get stabbed in the special edition or the extended
cut the director's cut whatever you want to call we're going to mix that up a lot so apologies
but that's a whole other element of that story which I wanted to see.
I think that's interesting because I generally –
like let's say I bought a Blu-ray and it had the theatrical release
and an extended cut on it.
I feel I would watch the extended cut and think to myself,
well, this has added a lot to the lore of whatever universe this is in.
I'm excited to see some stuff that was cut out or, you know,
that expands my understanding of this movie or what have you.
But I feel like if I wasn't satisfied with the theatrical cut,
I wouldn't have bought the Blu-ray in the first place.
Yes.
If I was like, boy, the only, you know, boy, I kind of didn't like this movie
because it felt like it was missing pieces.
I wish I could see the extra seven minutes. I don't think i would go and then buy an extended version i would feel
i it would it would feel cheap to me so i would feel cheated i think for you it's something that
you have to love or at least like yeah and you're interested in seeing more and it's not necessarily
because you you're like this isn't finished it's because i love this universe and that they've
created yeah i feel if anything to especially to market an extended cut as,
well, this is what we didn't see in theatres because –
The big wigs.
And you would know that because you saw an incomplete movie at the cinema.
You idiot.
I'm mad about that.
I don't like it.
Yeah.
I mean, often they cut down run times to fit more sessions in and whatever.
But again, if I'm seeing a nonsensical
movie because it appears to have pieces missing yeah i'm not going back for another dip on that
no of course you're talking about justice league yeah unless it's free i guess unless it's free i
guess so on the back of the lord of the rings though because we're going to run through a bunch
of directors and extended cuts for this and what was missing and what was put back in and whatever
we're going to hit on every one of them so So if you've got a favourite, don't worry, we covered it.
But off the back of that, saying how much I love those Lord of the Rings
extended cuts because they are seamless and they add to the story
in a huge way.
I would never watch the extended cut of The Hobbit, all of those movies.
There is no part of me that I don't want to watch those again,
let alone watch more of them.
I only watched the third one of those,
and I feel I got my money's worth.
Sure.
I mean, we'll probably go back to them at some point.
Oh, come on.
What would you watch for The Lord of the Rings?
Would you watch the extended cut of that?
Well, I have, but again, I don't think I'd go back.
Yeah, well, you're going to have to at some point, I'd imagine.
Yeah, I guess so.
But you wouldn't choose to, is that what you're saying?
Yeah, I think, but, you know, just knowing that well what happened what happened to sarah
man oh he got stabbed okay cool yeah like is is that scene and again i can't particularly
it doesn't it doesn't jump to mind immediately he falls off he falls and he lands on a big wheel
is it so visually spectacular that you would it's i just think it's an it's a neat scene that
is in it.
And, yeah, it looks good because they do the special effects.
They make it properly.
You know, it's not, you know, it's the way it is.
Did they finish the special effects for the home video release
or do you think they did?
Yes, absolutely.
Because they would come out maybe nine months after the movie came out.
Oh, yeah.
Kind of in preparation for like the next one normally.
Those I feel are.
So that was a finished extended cut without a furious fan demand for it.
Yeah, it seemed to be always the plan.
And I mean the special edition or the special features
on those things as well are a whole other story unto itself.
If you've got the time, I know you're not going to do this,
but a lot of people have, just pouring through all the way
they made those movies.
It's just incredible.
Has that also died in a way?
Yes, because there's no money in it.
In making of documentaries, right?
That being said, then you get like The Mandalorian, for example.
Now there's a Disney Plus show dedicated to the making of.
Right.
So I think it's probably going to shift digitally.
Now also when you buy things, for example,
I bought Batman v Superman recently for $27 on the making of. Right. So I think it's probably going to shift digitally. And now also when you buy things, for example, I bought Batman v Superman recently for $27 on the PlayStation store.
It was the only place I could get it.
It was $16 at JB Hi-Fi, I'm just saying.
You son of a bitch!
But it was –
You'd have to leave your house though.
Yeah, that's right.
But it was two movies.
It was the original and the extended.
But, like, I don't want both digitally for that much.
But, you know, I had to watch it obviously. But, yeah, I'm not want both digitally for that much. But, you know, I had to watch it, obviously.
But, yeah, I'm not sure what my point is there.
The Mandalorian.
Yes.
But that is to prevent people from, the new tactic, I guess,
is prevent people from cancelling their Disney Plus subscriptions
until another season of that show comes out.
That is no doubt.
Or the next big thing comes out.
Yeah, absolutely.
So maybe we'll see a resurgence.
Yeah, definitely.
I'll watch a Falcon Winter Soldier making of.
Yeah, definitely.
Well, here it is right here.
Terrific.
This is a remote for an air conditioner.
It's not really.
This screen doesn't even play like proper movies.
Does it have any Easter eggs or hidden stuff?
It's got a couple of batteries.
Oh, my God.
They're mostly flat, I think, though.
Oh, my God.
You can eat them well any other extended
director's cut that you want to go is that it are we done yeah that's that's the only that's the
only one we've got to there great terrific because i got a bunch here okay give me one more and then
i'll then i'll find a primo one for you you're gonna love well one of the most famous ones uh
is blade runner because there are something like eight cuts of this film and that's of course if
you don't even go into fan cuts,
which I'm sure there's a million of those as well.
But in 2007, there was the final cut of Blade Runner.
I've been told by a number of sources that is the one that I want to,
that I should re-watch.
Yes.
I think with Blade Runner, the only way you can really go wrong
is if you watch the original one with the narration.
I think you can watch the others.
There are added scenes of unicorns and dreams and things like that
and bits and pieces
but i think as long as you watch the one without the narration you're probably doing okay and i
actually don't and they also also of course there's the happy ending as well which they took
take out i think from this version who knows a lot of these i've kind of lost track of which
sections of movies i've seen what clips i've just watched on youtube you know i've kind of
mixed all these together but no i think if you've had to watch a version of Blade Runner,
it would be without the internal monologue and with some of the unicorn dreams, I guess. And
at the end, they don't have the happy ending where they drive off and, you know.
Do you think that if you were shown a version of Blade Runner,
there was just a variety of clips from YouTube put together, would you notice?
I mean, I probably, yeah.
It's a movie I know reasonably well.
Like there's some narration but not all the narration?
Oh, then I don't know at that point, do I?
Right?
That's what I'm talking about.
Yeah.
But I think Blade Runner's famously just kept being tinkered with
over the years.
But now that I think that it has a sequel,
you don't really need to change any of that because any kind
of questions that you're trying to answer by changing the narrative
is now kind of being wrapped up in a movie that nobody saw yes exactly at the cinema
yeah what else though okay so i looked at a bunch of lists of these are movies that have been greatly
improved by a director's card or extended cut okay and on every list water world yep i got that one
here as well what do you what do you know about it? I know it's an insanely expensive movie.
Went $75 million over budget or something like that.
That's a lot of money, James.
Especially in 1995 when that came out.
It famously broke up the friendship between Kevin Costner
and the director, apparently.
They had a personal friendship.
There was delays from hurricanes breaking out during shooting.
CGI-ing hair and bald spots.
They had three hours of footage and the theatrical cut
was just over two hours.
So they knocked a lot of it out.
Yeah.
Well, I think the idea was that then for the home release,
any version they show now, what you buy or what's on television,
it's the three hours.
Oh, good.
And that's the only version I think I've seen because I didn't see this
at the cinema when I was a kid, did you? No. But apparently. and apparently it's and that's the only version i think i've seen because i didn't see this at
the cinema when i was a kid did you no but apparently and look i didn't even see the
spiritual sequel the postman spiritual yep yeah i guess it is because it's about a man and he's
delivering mail for america or whatever exactly yeah but i've never hated water world and maybe
it's because i haven't seen that two hour chopped up version because apparently a lot of the views
reviews at the time were like this is probably a good movie somewhere,
but this version of it isn't.
And I think it's fine.
And apparently they use better takes of scenes.
There's more humour and things like that.
Maybe I've only ever seen the…
It's entirely possible.
And they chop things up for television as well, so who really knows?
Well, that's the thing because all my experience with movies as a kid
was a movie obviously chopped up with ads on television.
So they were all three hours long anyway.
So how long must have Waterworld been?
It could have been one of those things that played over two nights.
Two nights, right?
Like they did with Dances with Wolves, I famously remember from that time.
It would have been another Costner epic.
Costner epic.
That's right, exactly.
What's interesting, though, and this same can maybe be said for Justice League depending on what happens with it,
The Hateful Eight seemed to start the trend of taking a movie,
adding stuff to it, and then breaking it up into episodic adventures.
I think The Hateful Eight was excruciatingly long,
even in its theatrical release.
It wasn't my favourite one either.
I think there's a good movie in there, but I am interested,
and I haven't done it yet, because on Netflix it is four episodes
and it's two hours and ten minutes now as opposed to 167 plus there's credits in that as well but i
do wonder how it does play episodically and maybe knowing that i can watch 40 minutes now and watch
you know 40 minutes tomorrow maybe it's something that you could enjoy more like that as opposed to
having to sit with the whole thing yeah but i don't know if it even worked that way because
it's interesting to me that movie,
and it was done this way intentionally,
it's kind of framed like a stage play, you know?
Yeah, right.
It's like the one set, like it's in a little cabin
and everyone's walking about and drinking poison coffee
or whatever's going on.
Sure.
So I would be interested to revisit that.
What are some good movies and TV shows that are set up like that?
Good movie?
Jake's Girls with Alan Alda. It's set in an apartment and move um jake's girls with alan alder it's
set in an apartment and he's visited by the ghosts of his girlfriends jake's women is it
it's a stage play you know why i had that thought it's because the mario games are
i mean they're not one room are they or some of them are the earlier ones but they're set up as
if they are their stage plays oh they are productions right isn't just three is maybe
three definitely is.
But, I mean, the circumstantial evidence is that all of the characters are friends outside of that game.
Is he jumping on people?
To their deaths, yes, absolutely.
He's not friends with the extras, obviously.
He'll kill an extra.
He's the star.
He's the star, obviously, and he'll crush as many extras,
Coopers, as he needs to.
But he's friends with Bowser outside.
That's why they're always playing tennis together.
Oh, and doing Mario Karting.
Doing Mario Karting. Doing Mario Kart, yeah. you reckon bowser pushed for it to be like can we
call it bowser kart no maybe it's only called mario kart in mario's mind oh okay just play
along with it yeah we'll go and play mario kart with you mario it's okay it's okay mario yeah
that might exactly be it i guess so you're saying things framed like a stage play
Yes
Could you say the movie Buried could be framed like a stage play?
Oh, I see what you're saying
No, I mean more in the sense of that the pullback and reveal is that it is in fact
It's effectively a stage play
What about Birdman? Isn't that like
Oh, I see what's happening here
You're confusing movies that are like a stage play
with movies that have a stage in them.
But it has like the theatrical nature of it.
Oh, yes, it does.
You know what I mean?
Kind of the way that it's...
It's not a stage play, obviously.
No, I don't know.
I'd be interested if people have any thoughts on that.
You know, it's just because I watched a video this week
about the video game Pathologic,
which is sort of a pandemic-related video game
in which it's revealed that it's actually just people performing on a stage.
That's fun.
Fun, right?
Wouldn't it be great if that was real life?
Oh, my God, I'd feel so good.
The dream!
Yeah.
So you know about Richard Donner's Superman 2?
Yes, vaguely.
Again, people compare it to what's happening now with the DC properties,
but Richard Donner was kicked off and Richard Lester,
I think his name is.
This is a real Dick York, Dick Sargent situation, isn't it?
Isn't it?
Do you know what I'm referring to?
No, I just went along with it.
The TV show Bewitched.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
There were two Darrens.
There were two Darrens.
Yes.
They make a joke about it in the Bewitched movie.
Will Ferrell's like, they swapped out the Darrens
and nobody noticed,
which is true.
Yeah, they did notice.
Did they?
I bet people didn't really.
I knew as a kid.
You're like, who's this guy?
I'm like, decades ago they replaced the Darrens.
Do you think that's – I don't think people would have really noticed
at the time, in all honesty.
They're visibly different men.
No, I understand that, but I think people would have just rolled with it.
Oh, of course, yeah.
I don't think anybody can.
Yeah.
And also you'd just go like, oh, she's a witch.
She probably was like, I want him to look different.
Do you think that was the in-universe explanation?
I'm sick of looking at this fucking guy's face.
The people in the neighborhood, they all,
it was like a Twilight Zone episode.
The people in the neighborhood knew that they dared say anything.
No. For fear. Because they changed that they dared say anything for fear.
Change their own faces.
So Richard Donner famously kicked off Superman 2.
He filmed one and two back to back.
Richard Lester finished it off.
I think the original Superman movie too is good regardless.
I don't know if you know if I've sat down and watched the whole Richard Donner thing,
but they went back decades later and they used some kind of rehearsal footage and some other things to piece it back together.
And people seem to prefer it on the whole, but it's not a fully completed project and
you can still see a lot of the scenes, but you get a better idea of what it's supposed
to be as a movie.
And I think the right move definitely would have been to leave Richard Donner on there
because have you seen Superman three?
Fucking atrocious.
It really is.
Terrible film.
And 4, even worse.
No, I like 4 because at least it's about Superman.
I guess that's probably true.
Yeah.
So what's the major narrative twist of the Donner cut, do you know?
I couldn't even tell you.
Okay.
I think it's more serious, less silly is a big part of it.
Okay, right.
Yeah.
But no, that's something I probably should watch at some point
because I'm sure I've skimmed through clips on YouTube.
Did they make the change?
This is definitely a change somewhere where the criminals,
these Kryptonian super criminals are arrested.
There is a version of that.
But in most versions they just fall to their deaths.
And I know a lot of this because people often comment,
I've got a Superman kill count video, and people say,
well, they didn't kill the Kryptonians because, you know,
in an A version you see them alive.
But a lot of the time that only happens in a TV cut as well.
Oh, I see, right.
Yeah, but he killed them.
Or they're falling to their death and they go, oh, we're fine actually.
We're just going to fall infinitely, so we're technically alive.
Oh, there's food down here.
Yum, yum, yum.
Yeah, so I don't know what else to say about that,
but I think that's interesting that they got to go back
and finish that years later.
I've just written here, Star Wars changes, doesn't it?
Boy, does it.
You're not wrong.
I mean, because technically the special editions,
they're extended, aren't they?
Does George Lucas, does he, like everybody knows
what I'm talking about, does George Lucas still retain
an editing right now?
I don't believe so.
I think the last change he made was the McClunky thing
before he hammered it off.
Just a little bombshell to leave.
And there's speculation that the reason why we haven't seen
the original cut is because that was worked into the deal with Disney
where they could only show and sell the version
that he finalised eventually.
I think that will change eventually regardless because they're Disney
and they do whatever they want.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
One day he's going to get a letter in his mailbox that's like,
dear George, you don't exist anymore.
We removed you from reality using lawyers.
And we shaved your beard.
And we can do whatever we want now.
Yeah.
But then again, I also wouldn't put it past them that they are just
holding off on these versions,
on the original versions, because eventually they're going to do
a big kind of push on Disney Plus or a home release or whatever.
It's either going to be a lull or an anniversary,
something like that, yeah.
You mentioned earlier about a movie that maybe might be shorter
than the one that was released originally,
a director's cut, if you will.
Oh, yes.
Do you have one?
Because I do.
Look, when I said that, James, I was just stalling for time.
You're just spinning your wheels.
I'm just spinning my wheels.
But there's got to be one, right?
There is because Alien in 2003, well, there's more than one,
but Alien in 2003, the director's cut of the original film,
it's shorter by a minute.
So it moves it a bit more of a clip.
It's quite a slow-paced film.
I don't think it's not excru paced film i don't think it's not
excruciatingly slow i think it's very compelling it's a slow burn sci-fi movie but they also add
a scene which was which is referred to as the egg morphing scenes you know i see so some was taken
out but some was yes so there's the the the difference is one minute yes exactly so they
didn't speed up one they didn't speed up one particular scene. Well, yeah, there was a big controversy recently
where it was like Netflix are going to,
you can watch the movies at 0.5 extra speed or whatever.
But I don't let people do that if they want.
I don't see why it's a big deal.
Like if people want to do that, do you care?
Apparently people listen to like our podcast that way.
I think there should be an option,
but there should be some,
if you're the director of a movie,
you should get first refusal. Oh, but if
you do that, people get to send you nasty emails. There's a button or just, just, uh, just emojis
or something. You get to send, you get to send a reaction to the director. That's fair. I appreciate
that. But sorry, do you know about the egg morphing scene? No, tell me about it. So it's
where they're going to, she goes into a room, Ripley, or another crew member.
I can't remember.
I have seen it.
I've seen it in the movie.
But some of the crew are slowly being kind of digested
and turned into alien eggs.
So I think the idea is then in alien lore,
if one of these xenomorphs gets free and gets loose,
in the absence of a queen, it can make an alien egg.
Right.
Yeah, turn a person into an egg. Okay. But if it's got a queen, then she's just like, it can make an alien egg. Right. Yeah, turn a person into an egg.
Okay.
But if it's got a queen, then she's just like, I'll make 1,000.
Yeah, it's very vague, isn't it?
Isn't it?
Yeah.
Movies, though, you know?
And that's great.
Well, that would have changed the whole continuity of the Alieniverse,
to the best of my knowledge, which they did anyway when they were like,
well, David made them.
Didn't he just?
David the Android made them.
Yeah, he made them, and that's cool.
Yeah. And it doesn't even make sense really, well, David made them. Didn't he just? David the Android made them. Yeah, he made them. And that's cool.
Yeah.
And it doesn't even make sense really though because if David made them,
what was that ship with the alien eggs on it like from like thousands of years in the past?
Time travel.
I fixed it.
Yep, that's right.
I fixed it.
Yep.
But do you know about also the Aliens special edition with James Cameron?
I'm sure that's the one I've watched the most.
There's been a few.
Yes.
It's apparently evolved over several years throughout the 80s and 90s but eventually it's kind of set
it on a version where you probably remember this but this is mostly every version like you mentioned
but you know the start where she gets out and she looks like she's in a park but it's actually like
a telly screen wall oh yes uh-huh that's new uh there's more you see the colony before the attack
so you spend a little bit of time with them.
Ripley says goodbye to Hicks before she goes after Newt.
They have like a final moment.
So there are those extra scenes and that's kind of the version that I mostly remember, I think.
Yeah, so all of those things that I've mentioned, I'm like, yeah, no,
I know that.
That's the movie Aliens, but apparently not always.
Yeah, it's interesting when they take out,
especially when it's a horror movie,
when they take out elements that would more humanise the various characters
or make you feel more sympathy for them.
Sure.
I'm sure there's, I bet we've got some, oh, you know what?
The original Dawn of the Dead, like the 1970s version.
Okay, yeah.
There's more character development in the director's cut.
For the zombies?
Yeah.
Great.
We see their hobbies, we see their home life, We see the wife straightening the tie of her husband.
Off you go.
They scruff the kid's hair, the zombie kid's hair,
send him off to zombie school.
But there's more character.
It's just braids written on a chalkboard.
There's more gore.
There's more character development.
So maybe like 15 minutes more, I think.
And again, I'm not sure why you wouldn't do that.
I mean, you want a brisk movie, but also an extra 15 minutes where we go,
oh, I care about that guy a little bit more.
So when he dies.
Do you think it's people assuming,
the people who eventually are behind this final theatrical cut,
that people just want to get to the zombies?
Do you think it's people just being like,
they don't care about any of that stuff, they just want to see the.
Yeah, I'd say so.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, but I think you're right.
Yeah, especially if that stuff is done well.
And yeah, you want to care about the people who are going to die.
Yeah.
You know, that makes sense to me.
Oh, here's one.
I love things that's going on.
This movie sold me on the idea of the DVD.
Yeah.
And was like, because the DVD was a goldmine.
That's the 40-year-old virgin.
Right.
Which is just-
Extra gags. That is a movie that is almost exclusively improvised gags yeah but obviously they didn't have enough
room for all of it so the dvd is just like here's 20 minutes of steve grill screaming as people tear
his hair off yeah absolutely you know i know there's the you now i know your gay scene goes
for like much longer is that right it's like an extended sequence there's also, you know, I know your gay scene goes for like much longer. Is that right? It's like an extended sequence.
There's also a lot of like, again, there's more humanizing of the characters.
There's more the guys just hanging out.
He gets older.
By the end of the film, he's 42.
Oh my gosh.
He's a 42-year-old virgin.
It's that much longer.
My goodness.
I feel like though with some Judd Apatow films,
they've now bled that over into other ones of his movies.
Because if you look at like, what's the Adam Sandler one where he's a comedian, he gets
cancer and whatever.
Funny people.
Funny people goes for a thousand years.
Yeah.
And I think that one's too long.
But then if you look at This Is 40, which is technically a sequel to 40 Old Virgin.
No, is it that one?
It's knocked up.
It's knocked up.
I've said that wrong.
Thank God that you correct me on that.
But that one is really long. Like that's like two and a half hours. Yeah. But I think it that wrong. Thank God. You correct me on that. But that one is really long.
Like that's like two and a half hours.
Yeah.
But I think it's great.
I think that movie is terrific and it benefits from spending time
with these characters because that's what that movie is about.
It's about this husband and wife, you know,
dealing with the fact that they're getting older and they kind of hate
each other.
But, you know, they also love each other at the same time.
And, yeah, that's a great movie.
Would you say it's very real, James?
Yeah, it is.
No, it is because it has – there's arguments in that movie that make it,
it's awkward to watch because you're like,
this feels like a real argument.
I remember reading an interview or hearing an interview with Judd Apatow
where he talked about how the arguments that kind of evolved
during the making of that and that they wrote,
some of it was drawn from his experience because Leslie Mann,
they're really married in real life and others were like,
how would Paul Rudd and Leslie Mann, they're really married in real life, and others were like,
how would Paul Rudd and Leslie Mann annoy each other if they were married?
Yeah, right.
This is kind of off topic, but I just thought that's one
of his favourite movies of mine.
Maybe because it's closest to my life.
Maybe.
Yeah, but yeah.
You love Robocop, don't you?
I do.
Do you know there's a Robocop extended version?
One minute extra of additional gory stuff,
including Ed209 shredding that dude in the boardroom.
Apparently it goes for longer.
Yeah, oh, I know.
I'm well aware.
Again, it's all laid out on the trading cards that I had as a child.
Oh, really?
Murphy getting his hand shot off, all sorts of stuff.
Is that not in the original?
I can't remember, but it's definitely on the trading cards for children.
Because I remember you showed me one and one of your trading cards
is like that dude who's melting in toxic waste.
These are for children.
They are for children.
And some men, some grown men.
Have we talked about Mortal Kombat 11 on this podcast?
We have in real life.
Not really, I don't think.
Because there's Robocops in it now.
Absolutely.
This is what I've been waiting for.
I've been waiting for a definitive version of this version of Mortal Kombat.
Now I'm going to get it.
And one of his fatalities, he shoots a guy through the dick.
That's so Robocop.
But in inimitable Mortal Kombat style,
not only does he shoot his opponent through the dick,
he's also flung a grenade behind him.
So he shoots him through the dick and it goes through the grenade
and they explode into pieces.
He knows what he's doing.
He's been around the block a few times.
And then he arrests the pieces.
Good.
But that also strikes me as out of character for Robocop
because he's not sadistic.
Yeah.
But it's Mortal Kombat, isn't it?
That's true.
And it's probably Scorpion or whatever.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Robocop's a good movie, I think.
I think it is.
Yeah.
No, it is.
Of course it is.
Yeah.
You know about Caligula, right?
No. Okay. It's this movie from the 70s uh it's basically just like it's about roman shit it's like a sword
and i gathered that i'm aware of the emperor caligula yes yes so i don't know if you know
this but it was incredibly saucy for the time for what era uh the 70s i believe you're gonna
look at an exact date on that but it exists at least 10 different officially released versions,
ranging from a sub-90-minute television edit for TV14, later TVMA.
And then there's also the unrated full pornographic version
that exceeds 3.5 hours.
Excuse me?
They spliced in actual pornography into the big kind of mass orgy scenes.
Oh, I see.
They didn't get the actors of the movie to engage.
No, no, no, no.
They didn't get them to make pornography.
Yeah, no.
But they put like, did they film their own pornography?
Yeah, I guess they did.
Yeah.
But I guess it's all just nude people.
So I guess you could.
It's 81 actually.
Okay.
I mean, Helen Miriam's in it.
Malcolm McDowell's in it.
Like there's Peter O'Toole's in it.
Peter O'Toole, my rod.
What are you?
Oh, McDowell that's
right so yeah it also says it was also released in 1979 so i guess that no again there's probably
different versions of it and it's probably blocked in no it was released in 98 in the u.s but in
italy in 1979 but yeah so it was like a very big deal at the time to obviously take a mainstream
movie and then put just pornographic scenes in it.
I remember when I lived up north, there was a guy who lived in the area, John.
I've talked about him before on my other less successful podcast, Suggestible.
Porno John.
Porno John, but he was like, do you want to come around and watch Caligula?
And I'm like, do I want to watch a 1970s porno film with you?
No, I don't.
Not really, John.
And then you did.
And then I did, obviously.
But also, if you want to watch some pornos, Mason,
you don't need to sit through a three-and-a-half-hour movie
unless it's a great movie.
Maybe that was his pretense.
I don't know.
Maybe it was, yeah.
Look, so the three-and-a-half-hour.
Anyway, I regret turning him down is the point of that story.
Yeah, exactly.
I mean, you could have made a great friend.
No, he was awful.
Anyway, what else?
Here's one that I didn't know because the version I've seen,
I guess, has always been the extended cut, The Exorcist.
Yeah, right.
The scene where-
The face on the wall is a part, isn't it?
Yeah, but when the kid spider crawls down the stairs.
That was a 99 edition or something, wasn't it?
Yeah, like 2000, I think.
Yeah, right, yeah.
Why would you leave that out?
That's the best, that's the least stupid thing in the movie.
That's a great movie.
I don't like The Exorcist.
It's terrific.
I think it's very funny.
Get out of here.
But I mean, that would be, it's either a great effect,
it's a combination of effects and stunts and camera work.
It's an effect because I'd only obviously seen it when in the re-release.
Yeah.
But yeah,
it's just like a very flexible person being able to do that.
Yeah.
And the speed that it's probably ramped up a little bit,
but the speed that it happens,
it's,
it's quite unnerving.
Yeah.
It's a good movie.
Don't you think?
No,
I don't think it is,
but we both think it's a good movie.
Okay.
You know,
you back kingdom of heaven. Don't you? A movie. I still have not seen it is. We both think it's a good movie. Okay. You know, you're about Kingdom of Heaven, don't you?
A movie I still have not seen.
It stars Orlando Bloom, was directed by Ridley Scott.
It's about knights and stuff.
Oh, yes.
Like, you're all knights.
Who's he?
Who are they?
Who are you talking about?
He's a knight and he's knighting other knights.
Can't knights knight other knights?
I don't think they can, no.
I think they can.
I don't think they can at all.
I think you can knight other knights.
Do you know what you get in the modern day if you become knighted?
I don't know.
Nothing.
What?
You get nothing.
Because there was that dude who recently turned 100 and did like laps of his garden,
so the queen made him a knight.
Yeah.
And he didn't get anything?
He didn't get anything.
You should have gotten at least like five years off the queen of like extra life.
Just take them from the queen and hand them over.
Don't you think?
That would be fair, I think.
I think so.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But so the Kingdom of Heaven, it was panned at the time,
at its release.
It's like, we've seen enough of this bloody sword nonsense
that's been going on.
You already made Gladiator and whatever.
We're sick of this crap.
But the extra 45 minutes that are in the extended home release,
apparently it's just a completely different and incredible film.
Why the change?
I guess to get into cinemas and get people and then get them out.
Okay, wow.
I don't know.
See, that's one of the most fascinating ones to me.
The idea of it's just, it wasn't one 45-minute chunk.
I'd imagine not.
Again, I haven't seen it.
It was some subplots or something.
Subplots, et cetera.
Or some character development.
That is fascinating.
Yeah.
Like just the idea.
And see, that very much feels like a studio decision of like who cares.
People do like swords and knighting and et cetera.
Don't they?
And sword fights.
Just put it out there.
It doesn't matter what it's like.
It doesn't matter if people enjoy it because they'll only see it once. Just put it out there. It doesn't matter what it's like. It doesn't matter if people enjoy it because they'll only see it once.
Just put it out there and who cares because we'll get more sessions in.
That is – James, it feels very cynical.
Does it?
Are you going to watch that now that I've said this?
I've got to watch this movie.
It's amazing to me that I haven't.
It's amazing to you that I haven't too, right?
I mean I'm not amazed by most of the movies you haven't seen.
Okay, fair enough.
I'll try and think of some.
It sounds like an insult, but it wasn't really.
It was just.
Well, you know, you can't see everything.
It's true, yeah.
You cannot see everything.
It would be remiss of us if we didn't talk about the Daredevil extended cut.
That's true.
It's the way Daredevil was meant to be seen.
I've seen it.
It doesn't add much.
It's like the Coolio courtroom scene.
Yes.
Probably some other stuff, but it doesn't make it a's like the Coolio courtroom scene yes probably some other stuff
but it doesn't make it
a better movie
it just makes it
a longer movie
well some would say
that's a better movie
and to be fair
we get to live longer
in the world of Daredevil
1990s Daredevil
2000s Daredevil
2003s Daredevil
I don't know
I like Daredevil
the movie
I mean
why?
because it's fun
it's like
I guess
I just think it's like
I mean I don't I'm not going out of my way to watch it,
but I think it's a fun kind of snapshot of that era.
I think it captures everything they were doing
in the worst comic book movies at the time
or what they thought that people wanted to see in comic book movies.
It's a time capsule.
It's a time capsule.
It's like, let's do X-Men and the Matrix with the leather and suits
and whatever and all those kinds of things.
And like the bullseye is ridiculous.
He's carved a bullseye into his own head.
People have recommended to me a show recently called,
perhaps it's called Mid-90s.
Okay.
And, you know, it's a modern.
Is that the Jonah Hill movie you're talking about?
No, I don't think so.
Okay.
Because there's a Jonah Hill movie called Mid-90s.
Then maybe that's exactly what I'm talking about.
But a lot of people have been recommending it to me,
and I'm like, well, that's, you know,
it's nice to see a modern-day interpretation of that era,
but it doesn't have the authentic, no matter how hard they try,
it does not have the authenticity of just a Daredevil movie.
That's right.
In the mid-90s.
Yeah, exactly.
If you want to watch a movie that really sums up the 90s,
watch the movie Can't Hardly Wait.
Your buddy.
That'll do it, yeah.
That's the 90s, mate. Yeah. hardly wait your buddy that'll do it that's
the 90s man yeah we're always constantly being trapped in uh house parties yeah right we can't
hardly wait yeah and he's in love with jennifer love he would order uh ethan embry yeah that's
right seth green oh my god that's the mid 90s in a you know if if if all the magic and energy of
the mid 90s just sort of coalesced into one being. It would be Ethan Embry.
Exactly.
If you poured it into a big tube, that's what you'd get.
That's right.
Weird side style.
Yeah.
I guess Terminator 2 has various editions, special editions
and extended stuff and director's cuts.
I know we talked about this recently, but you mentioned how there's some
of that stuff you like and some of it you don't.
I think the only stuff that really needs to be there,
not even needs to be there, that is a good addition
that doesn't kind of bog down the movie is the chips scene
where they flick the chip from read only to he can learn stuff.
To only read.
To only read.
It's all he does.
But I think that's also they've cut that movie,
like the theatrical version.
James, I want to pause.
I should have said read never because they needed the intense jock energy
to defeat the T-1000.
That's true.
Yeah, you can't be reading books.
You don't have time for that.
But I think that movie also you get the idea that he's learning.
The whole time, yeah, exactly, yeah.
So by the end you're not like, but didn't he have a –
aren't they read only?
I mean there's literally a scene there's the the scene the way it's cut is the in the in the
theatrical release he says i i'm i'll be back yes he says that but he also says i'll still a vista
baby no he says that but also he says uh that the chip in his brain is a learning computer and then
it just cuts off yeah right but it's only an extended version where he says but's set to read only i guess we're gonna have to have a journey into the mind
and you're really gonna have to think about some choices you're gonna make sarah connor whether
you're gonna kill me or not you know yeah i've already predicted you're probably gonna have to
think about killing me or not yep and uh we need your twin sister to shoot this scene that's right
that's how they did it incredible look into i know you know so many twins if i don't mention
to people will mention it to us there are a so many twins in that movie. If I don't mention it, people will mention it to us. There are a lot of twins in that movie.
Gone are the days where they'll just get twins.
You know what I mean?
Twins are out of work.
What are they doing now?
They're throwing them into a big pile.
Yep.
That's what I think they're doing.
A big snow shovel.
They're probably in iPhone ads.
Yeah, they probably are.
Okay, fair enough.
But there is some extra scenes that have been added to Terminator 2
over the years.
You know the bit where the Terminator lies about the dog? He's what's up with wolfie or whatever and it's not the dog's
real name you actually see the t-1000 then go and he finds the dog and he he rips the collar off and
he sees that the dog says not wolfie not wolfie and he's like but like again you don't need to
know that he's figured it out because also the t-1000 was just in a big they had a big fight
together and there's a big crash so the t-1000 was just in a big, they had a big fight together and there was a big crash.
So the T-1000 knows that the Terminator is probably
with John Carter at that point.
That's true, yes.
I'd imagine.
There's a Kyle Reese scene as well.
Oh, yes.
Where he's like, Sarah, save our son, Sarah.
And she's like, I'm fucking, I'm trying, man.
Look at it, all right?
Look, chin-ups.
What are you doing?
You're a ghost.
I mean, you could save our son, Kyle Reese.
Oh, you can't.
I know.
He's not a ghost also.
He's like a figure of imagination or whatever.
And then there's a bit also at the end that you don't like
where the T-1000 is glitching.
I like it, but you don't like it because it doesn't look as good.
Is that right?
It's got weird styrofoam feet.
I hate it.
I can't argue with that.
I'm going to.
Here we go.
Just warming up my hands. I'm not really getting ready to argue my goodness that's right yeah what else we got here because i'm nearing the end of my list oh um look we've mentioned it before
but leon the professional it's got some additional creepy scenes yeah cool i'm gonna skip it yeah no
need when did we talk about leon a couple weeks back i think it was ages ago it was a million
years ago you know how long is anything this year i don't know it was this year though maybe it was last year i think
it was this year somebody talking about luke basson movies or french films or films with
jean reno in them i don't know it was extreme cool films so it was this year yeah must have been
that was cool was that episode this year i don't know. I don't know either.
What else, though?
What about, James?
Kingdom of Heaven.
We talked about it.
Give me out here now.
Caligula?
Nope.
I know a guy who's probably got it on VHS.
His name's John, if you want to.
Yeah, maybe you can post it down to us.
I'm on a list of 12 movies drastically improved by director's cut,
and they've put Apocalypse Now on there.
And honestly, there's a scene set in a plantation.
It's kind of slow.
Yeah, I've heard that's not.
There's maybe one more scene that I can't recall.
I've heard it's not that much better.
But it's more.
It's a good movie, I think.
That was the one where Brando, didn't he just mostly improvise his dialogue
because he was just like, like he turned up and they're like,
this guy's put on a lot of weight and doesn't seem to care
about anything anymore.
Well, let's say his character also does that.
Yeah.
I think it's because he did those Superman movies and they gave him like $10 million.
He doesn't have to do anything anymore.
Yeah.
I guess this isn't a great one for me to end on.
I've got some other ones we can just list off, but I Am Legend has a, there's a director's
cut for a director's cut ending, which we've talked about quite a lot.
You're familiar with this one though, right?
Oh yeah.
But I thought I'd briefly explain that and then talk about why it was changed.
So if you're familiar with the movie I'm Legend,
at the end of the movie I'm Legend, Will Smith, he's a bit of a legend
and he finds a cure maybe, I think, in one of the versions or both
and then he blows up himself and all the bad guys.
I was going to say aliens.
They're not aliens.
They're technically vampires, dark stalkers, dark seekers with a grenade.
And he's a bit of a legend.
Everyone's like.
If you keep this sentence going,
eventually none of the words will be pronounced correctly
or make any sense.
And then the friends that we meet get away and they're like,
he was pretty good, that guy, wasn't he?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But the other version is that he figures out that the woman
that he's kidnapped, the dark seeker, dark stalker,
she is actually the girlfriend slash love interest of the main zombie guy
with this big billowy torn shirt that he's running around with.
And that's the reason why they're going after him,
which also makes more sense.
And he also has a realisation because he's looking at all the screens
of all those different dark seekers, dark stalkers that he's killed.
And he's like, I'm a bad dude because these things have feelings.
They all have name tags.
They've got name tags.
I've been killing them.
They just work down to the K-Mart.
Yeah.
And that's more in line with the book, obviously,
where he figures out that he's a bad dude.
And then the movie just repeats itself from the perspective
of the boyfriend and girlfriend team.
Yeah.
They're just having a lovely rom-com situation.
They just don't have a good time and he's bloody snatched her bloody
out of a bloody cupboard or whatever happened in that movie.
Yeah.
So anyway, the reason they changed the director, Francis Lawrence,
which people might know from some Hunger Games movies,
maybe all of them, who's to say?
The reason the ending was changed to the happier one,
which is also the one where he explodes,
was because there was intense negative reactions to the ending
where Neville, which is his name, the only reason because that's his name
in the original book.
Will Smith would never be a Neville.
No, he wouldn't.
He'd be a Nev, would he?
No.
No.
He'd be a Jack or a John.
Yeah.
Because that's the only acceptable hero names in mainstream cinema.
Neville had a villainous realisation and the test audiences didn't like that,
like a moment of self-doubt from the character.
Don't want that in my movies.
So that's why they got rid of it.
So that's good, I guess, and it makes that movie much worse, I feel.
I like that movie, but I do not like the original ending.
I don't like that movie or that ending or the alternate ending.
What about the balance?
That's pretty good.
Oh, my God.
Do you remember when they showed it?
Yes.
People were like, but when? 2016. That's pretty good. Oh, my God. Do you remember when they showed it? Yes. Because people were like, but when?
2016.
Yep.
That's when.
That's right.
Yeah.
Got someone who's going to rattle off.
They hired a guy to go into every screening.
So when people were like, but when?
He'd go, 2016.
And we'd all know.
And then you'd have to add the caveat that that Superman S is actually
from the Superman Returns films, but we're actually not going to continue
with that particular franchise.
We're aiming for a reboot at that point.
But nobody would hear that because it was just cheering at that point.
So towards the end of his shift, like he'd been doing it for a few weeks
in the theatrical run, he just stopped saying that bit.
Still got paid the same.
No doubt.
Once Upon a Time in America, standing out of that.
Watchmen, there's various versions,
one where they put the pirate stuff back in as well.
Sucker Punch, never seen either version.
Should we watch Sucker Punch?
No.
Because we're talking about all the Snyder movies.
Maybe we should watch Sucker Punch.
I know, Mason.
I hear it's bad.
Yeah, apparently visually very interesting.
That's where, yep.
But emotionally quite taxing.
I haven't seen it.
Maybe we'd love it.
Also, I've heard people like-
Oh, what if we did though?
What a revelation for us as people.
But I've heard people say, like, if you watch, like,
a video game cut scene or, like, a soundtrack to a movie film.
Or if you put an ice pick through your brain.
Yeah, then you might actually like it.
Almost Famous, Touch of Evil, Apocalypse Now Reduct,
which we talked about, and, of course, the movie Brazil,
which is our favourite movie.
No, I hate it. I don't like the movie Brazil either which is our favourite movie. No, I hate it.
I don't like the movie Brazil either.
Maybe we watched the wrong version though.
Did we not?
I don't know.
I saw the bit with the stretched face and he had a knight suit
and he had big wings at some point.
Should we re-watch Brazil?
No.
Surely something's going to happen.
My time is so limited.
Surely something will happen in society or a movie will be released
and we'll have to be like maybe there'll be a Python anniversary
or something like that.
No, one of them died.
Two of them are dead now.
Well, we've missed those.
I know.
But the thing about the movie Brazil, I'm sure one version is like the 1994
kind of esque version, which I know it's like a loose kind of –
they parallel each other, those properties.
But where like the government get him and they've got him in the brain torture
and then another version where he actually escapes
and goes on to be a media mogul in the movie Tomorrow Never Dies.
What a twist.
I know.
So that's all the movies that have ever had an extended or director's cut.
Can you name another one, Mason?
No.
Then we've named them all.
Wow.
But look, if people want to uh
send some through yeah we're bloody what are some good ones maybe i guess is my question
what's your question what is your let us know one that you enjoy or hate but give us the the key
moment where you're like oh this turned it around for me is something i love or this was a horrible
mistake they've made absolutely we are all our own auteurs out there.
We can make that decision, I think.
I think it's also interesting that we're in the age
where people can make their own edits of things.
Yeah.
Yeah, because obviously the Phantom edits is like a huge, you know,
like that was a huge kind of fan reaction to Star Wars
and all of those kinds of things.
And now people would kind of do that for everything
and it's kind of maybe it's lost its, you know,
it's not as interesting anymore because literally anybody can do it now.
I don't know if it's lost its lust.
Do you want to watch a fan edit of something?
Because I don't generally.
That's a good question.
Not a Star Wars, I don't think.
The only version I would like to see is, you know,
there's the despecialised editions of Star Wars,
which somebody has made.
Yeah, right.
Taken the original films and just made them as they're supposed to be saying.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Did they just get their VHS copies of the old ones?
There is a whole lot of different scans and redoing of effects
or undoing of effects and things like that.
Yeah, you can download them if you want.
I will.
You don't have to.
It's illegal.
Don't admit to that.
Okay.
I shan't.
I'll just download the Bible.
Very good. Which is royalty free. It's illegal, Mason. It's not, though. Okay, you to that. Okay. I shan't. I'll just download the Bible. Very good.
Which is royalty free.
That's illegal, Mason.
It's not, though.
Okay.
You're lucky.
No.
Yeah.
And if it is, only God can judge me.
Very good.
And now it's time for What We Reading.
Oh, what we going to read?
I'm doing a thing.
Westworld.
You think I wasn't going to do it, Mason?
Did you think I wasn't going to do that?
No, I thought you were going to do it.
I knew you would.
Well, I'm nothing if not boring and predictable.
That's the spirit.
What are you Westworld today?
Well, on your advice, I've started watching devs.
And?
I like it a lot.
It's good, isn't it?
It's very, very intense.
What episode are you up to?
I'm up to about three or four, I think.
We should discuss it when I finally finish it.
We'll discuss it at length.
In real life?
Yes.
Okay, good.
Nice.
Pretty good, right?
You've been watching Space Force, right?
I have been watching Space Force.
I've heard many mixed things about Space Force.
That's not inaccurate, but I'm probably going to talk about that on Suggestible this week.
And I haven't finished it, but I have a lot of thoughts about it. But I kind of want to finish it and then think about it for a little bit.
But something I also watched was Patton Oswalt has a new comedy special.
It's been a couple of weeks.
I love everything.
I love everything.
So the previous show was about,
and he does of course touch upon this where he's his first comedy hour.
What's it called?
Set.
What are they called?
Special.
Special. His wife,
but it died.
And this is,
I guess a sequel to that because that's how the passage of time works.
And it's a much more kind of – it's a good comedy special in the sense that it's just good to see him doing well.
Yeah, exactly, right?
And it's just a nice kind of fun thing to watch.
And look, I guess technically it's probably not as good as the previous one.
Oh, okay, right.
But it's also –
Way to kick a man while he's down.
No, no, but that's the thing.
Because that are very deep and poignant moments
that you cannot replicate for obvious reasons.
Yeah, right.
But it's just honest.
It's still, I'm not kicking it.
It's great and it's really funny.
I'm also watching it.
Yeah, that sounds really good.
Did you know his brother, he does many things.
He's a comedy writer and stuff.
But he has a-
And sometimes he's manager maybe or they write stuff together.
Yeah, so Matt Oswald, he has an Instagram and that's it. That's it that's it that's the end of the story well that's great he's funny on
twitter and etc but he he has uh he one of his things is he uh he takes photographs of old
like liquor stores photograph of this liquor store exactly and and he's got a book called
liquor stores and detours which is like a collection of uh good day of of but it's like
old rundown liquor stores at night and in sunset
and it looks really good.
And he's got a Kickstarter to do a second printing of it.
And I missed out on the first run of it and I'm probably going
to get it this time around.
It's a little bit spino, but I'm going to –
How much?
I'm going to treat myself.
If you're in America, it's like $60, US.
But in Australia, it's significantly more than that.
Shipping.
Yeah, like a lot.
But I'm going to treat myself, I think.
Hey, look, do you have a coffee table?
Yes.
Perfect opportunity.
Imagine if you didn't.
Right?
I could build one from books.
You could.
I think I'm going to get it.
It's just very evocative.
What does he write about each one?
Or he doesn't?
No, I think he writes a little story, like a little short story about each one.
I love the nichosity of that.
Right?
Don't you?
Yeah, yeah.
That I like.
I like old-timey diners.
Yeah, right.
They're great.
Do you like new diners made to look like old-timey diners?
No, I hate those.
I hate those.
Yeah.
Do I like-
There's one near the jam factory that we eat at and hate.
We went there once.
Yeah, that's true. We did, yeah. We had a stink about it. And we eat at and hate. We went there once. Yeah, that's true.
We did.
We had a stink about it.
And we got a photo there.
Yeah, we did.
But they're on rollerblades, off skates, so that's cool.
I like, I also like Hungry Jack's, which is the Australian version of Burger King, but
sometimes they've retrofitted it so it looks like an old school diner.
And why?
I think they tore them all down, though.
Yeah, they might have.
Yeah.
You might be right.
Terrific.
Terrific. Yeah. What an aesthetic. Yeah. What's the theme song, I guess? Oh, we down, though. Yeah, they might have. You might be right. Terrific.
What an aesthetic.
It's a theme song, I guess.
Oh, we'll do letters.
Unless you've got more. The classic one was letters, oh letters.
We love you, some letters.
They're only a take away.
We know they're here right now.
We're going to do letters.
If you don't want to Westworld the show, you can.
Weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com.
James, no.
You've gone too far.
Mason, I know you've got a lot of Gmails in there today.
Yeah, I've got a bunch of letters.
Let me grab one real quick.
But again, I didn't get that many hashtag weeklyplanetpods.
Please send them on through.
But I've still got some absolute crackers here that we can do.
Do you want me to start, kick things off, or do you want me to?
This is from Samuel Jorgson.
Good name.
It says, hi, Mason, the one who has two kids now.
I just wanted to say that your podcast has been very helpful
and uplifting during this goddamned quarantine.
I was due to start at a new job the day after lockdown came into effect
in the UK, but with lockdown they couldn't take me on
and I'd already left my previous post, which sucked, right?
Being able to count my days doing absolutely nothing by saying
Monday is Weekly Planet Day and Thursday is Caravan ofavan of garbage is suggestible has really helped these weeks
caravan of garbage is on tuesday well to be fair the podcast section don't kick a man
yes no the video was on tuesday i say the audio is on thursday well well well he didn't know my
name so fucking uh thanks again sam and then it says., James, I hope you can outrun this new kid.
So guess what?
He did know your name the whole time,
and you've besmirched his good name, which is Samuel.
I don't know if you're aware.
Anyway, we both teamed up to get you, so that was good.
I didn't plan it, but it worked out really well.
Yeah, what do you got?
I mean, I guess I'm just going to double down
on the hate on that one, I'm not going to
fold am I? Thank you for the lovely
email, this is from Zyara
I've said that wrong probably
it starts with an X but
hashtag weeklyplanetpot on Twitter
if you could erase a movie from your memory
which one would it be?
now I took this as a couple of ways
because it could be a bad movie that you don't want to see or something that you'd want to see again.
Yeah.
Where are you at anyway?
That's a good question.
I was just thinking today about like comfort watches,
like you just, you know, like I like to watch, you know,
it just gives you a nice warm fuzzy feeling.
And I'm like, you know, I was thinking Ocean's Eleven.
Oh, that's a good movie, isn't it?
The Brad Pitt Clooney one. Yeah. I'm just like, oh, it's just a nice time. That's a good movie, isn't it? The Brad Pitt Clooney one.
Yeah.
I'm just like, oh, it's just a nice time.
They're stealing some money.
Isn't it nice?
Yeah, it is nice.
Maybe I'd erase my memory of that one and be like, hmm.
Maybe you could erase your memory of the original one
so we could do another video on it.
No, never.
No.
That's a good one.
I like that idea of a comfort watch.
But with a comfort watch, isn't the idea also that you go back
and you're like, I know this.
That's true. You're right. Yeah, I know this. That's true.
You're right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What's a movie that...
Do you think you'd be like...
Because I think about them like all...
Because I know people are like,
oh, I'd love to watch Lord of the Rings again.
I know Peter Jackson says,
I'd love to watch Lord of the Rings having not made them
because he can never get that.
I think George Lucas has mentioned the same thing
with Star Wars.
You can never be a fan because you see everything
that's gone into it.
But I don't know if there's certain movies like, you know,
like I want to see The Sixth Sense because of the twist
or I want to watch Empire Strikes Back for the first time.
But you maybe watch it and go, well, this is quaint, isn't it?
Because of everything that has come since.
It's also tricky to do it with a franchise as well.
I was just thinking like, oh, you know.
Just that one?
Yeah, right.
Just the one movie in a franchise?
It's like, well, the first Iron Man.
I remember being like, oh, this is something special.
I really like, you know, it was kind of a thrill.
But imagine just erasing that from your memory
and I've got the other 20 just in my head.
And people are like, yeah, that really kicked off with Iron Man.
And I'm like, what?
You mean Iron Man 2?
Would it dismantle my memory of all the other movies as well?
Potentially, yeah.
I guess it would.
You know what?
In the spirit of it, I'm going to say Memento.
That's a good one.
I'd like the memory of the movie Memento erased and then I could watch a movie about memories
again.
I think that's also pretty fresh.
Yeah.
So like whatever time you watch it in.
So you could watch it 20 years later and it still wouldn't feel like a movie from 20 years
ago.
What about The Matrix?
But then there's a sake wars.
That's true, yeah.
I think The Matrix, if you didn't know about The Matrix,
would still be good if you watched The Matrix.
Oh, yeah.
That was another one where it's like this is a turning point.
Yeah.
I think Inception, if we're talking Christopher Nolan,
would be a good one to watch again.
Yeah.
Something more recent, I really liked Blade Runner 2049.
Yeah, you do.
I think that would be a good, That would be a pleasant surprise being like
There's a new Blade Runner and it's amazing
I think that would be nice
I'm going to tell everybody about this
Oh everybody knows about it and they decided not to see it
Okay cool
But I guess bad movies
There's nothing I really do want to erase to be honest
You?
No because I feel like we
Especially when we do a caravan of garbage or something
We just ruin something in real life.
You can derive a lot of fun out of just making fun of something that's bad.
I think it's to our benefit having seen that stuff.
It wouldn't be probably if we didn't do this.
I think there'd be stuff that I'm like, oh man, I don't need.
I don't know.
I'm trying to think of an example.
Can't even think of one.
But Elektra.
I don't need the movie Elektra. Yeah, right. But I think one day I'm trying to think of an example. I can't even think of one. But Elektra. I don't need the movie Elektra.
Yeah, right.
But I think one day I'm going to need the movie Elektra.
And I guess the problem also is that if I erase, say,
a Transformers movie, eventually I'm going to get curious about it.
If I could somehow erase all the Transformers movies from my mind.
Yeah, you'd end up watching them all, wouldn't you?
Well, somebody would be like, what about those Transformers movies?
And I'd go, man, I loved Transformers when I was a kid,
and they made movies?
I'm not going to watch the movies.
Oh, no, I've got a headache now.
It's not going away.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, that's interesting.
I actually wouldn't mind people tweeting in about that.
Yeah, let us know what movie you would raise for Good Oriol.
And why.
Yeah, right?
Don't just name things.
We need context.
I'm not savages.
This is an email from Robert Kelly.
Hello, Robert Kelly.
It says, hi, I'm high.
No, you're Robert Kelly.
Oh, my God, he's done it.
Wow.
I should point out there are a lot of spelling mistakes in this.
Is there?
But it says, I'm high, and then there's some winky emojis.
So he's telling you he's on the down low.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm high, wink.
Don't tell anyone.
Maybe you shouldn't put your full name in.
But it doesn't matter because the world's gone blow up
or feels like it.
But you two funny cool dudes make everything
fell a little less blowy-uppy.
Makes my wick start off right,
and the VOs you make are just a nice escape.
Also applies to Ben from Canada's
vids. Those are coolio too.
So thank you from me,
Robert Kelly. Smile face.
Smiley face emoji. Thank you, Robert.
Now off the back of this, I don't know
about any fake drunk or people getting
drunk and high sending us emails.
This is a one-off. This is a special
email. Because it's special times.
Do not besmirch this.
Also, Robert, apologies in advance if you being high doesn't affect your typing at all
and maybe you just have dyslexia or something like that.
I apologize.
Also, we apologize in advance if you're listening to this high and you're like,
is this real?
It's not.
It's not real.
We also apologize in advance if somehow you're high
at work and you set this up to play on speakers at work and now everybody knows you're high
and you've been fired. That's right. But don't use your full name. Don't do that. Yeah. I
feel like Robert Kelly is pretty, you know. Yeah. It's probably a few of them I'd imagine
on Facebook. Yeah. Yeah. I've got a tweet here from C Ray. We could find a hashtag.
We could plan a pod. Greatest podcast of all time.
I don't know about that, but probably.
We'll take it.
Yeah.
James and Maceo's.
It's the best one made in these four walls, maybe.
Three.
Three and a four.
Remember?
Yep.
James and Maceo's top ten or however many you get to alien movies of all time.
Alien is one.
Wait, are we just including any movies with any kind of alien?
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, people, you know what I mean?
Because some people are pretty strange, Mason.
Oh, that's true.
Yes.
But no, you can't say that.
So alien or aliens, but you can pick one.
What do you put in?
Aliens.
I'm going to say alien.
Okay, well then.
But I'd probably pick aliens, to be honest.
But they're both great.
Yeah, yeah.
What else?
Independence Day.
Resurgence.
Yep.
Bad movie.
Very bad. No, it's not bad. Men in Resurgence. Yep, bad movie. Very bad.
So bad.
Men in Black 1.
Yep, Arrival.
Men in Black 3.
No.
No.
The new one, International.
No.
Yeah.
Very much no.
What about an E.T.?
No, I don't like E.T.
Really?
I like E.T.
I didn't really like it, and then I really liked it.
What about The Thing?
Oh, yeah, that's a good one.
Yes.
Yeah.
What about your Close Encounters guy?
Nope.
I haven't seen it in a while.
What about Space Odyssey? What about Spaceters guy? Nope. I haven't seen him in a while. What about Space Odyssey?
What about Space Balls?
Nah.
Does that count?
Like Star Wars and science fiction like that?
No, I think so.
So none of the Star Treks?
Nope.
But they're set in our universe, though.
Do you see what I'm saying?
Yeah, still no.
Okay.
None of the Star Treks?
I don't think so.
Okay.
I might say, I like the reboot.
That's why I know it's not considered the best one.
People would say Wrath of Khan.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
From the 80s.
What are you, like a million years old if you like that movie?
Yes.
It's a good movie.
So what about Cloverfield?
That's a good one.
That's a good, solid one.
It's a great one.
What about Under the Skin, which is that Scarlett Johansson one?
I haven't seen that yet.
Scarlett Johansson one.
It's amazing.
She's an alien, but she's in a Scarlett Johansson body. Yes. What about Under the Skin, which is that Scarlett Johansson one? I haven't seen that yet. Scarlett Johansson one. It's amazing. She's an alien, but she's in a Scarlett Johansson body.
Yes.
What about Arrival?
You said Arrival, but we'll put it in twice.
Forget that one.
Forget that one.
Forget it already.
All right.
What about District 9?
That's a good one.
Yeah, isn't it?
What about Invasion of the Body Snatchers?
Nope.
Contact?
Nope.
Avatar?
No.
Interstellar?
Interstellar.
They could be humans from the future as well.
Mars Attacks?
I'm going to say no.
Predator?
Ooh.
The Thing 2011?
Nope, not bad.
Signs?
No.
I've never seen Attack the Block.
I've also never seen Attack the Block.
Attack the Block.
John Boyega's own.
Yep.
Attack the Block.
I'm going to end on this one.
Actually, Starship Troopers, there's good alien movies, isn't there?
There are good alien movies, it's true.
Galaxy Quest is incredible.
Yeah.
That's enough, though, I think.
I think so.
They've got Blade Runner here.
There's no Aliens and Blade Runner, is there?
Well, in a way.
Aren't humans the real aliens in that scenario because of their loss
of humanity, something, something, replicant something?
Yep. And I guess they've humanity, something, something, replicant something. Yep.
And I guess they've got like Avengers and stuff.
Like you could pick one of those, couldn't you?
Because they've all got aliens in them technically because they're all
setting weird interdimensional and interstellar stuff going on there.
Correct.
That's all the alien movies.
That's true.
We covered them all.
If you can't believe.
I bet I'll think of one tonight.
I'll be like, God damn it.
I was going to say, but if people can't believe that we missed one,
we didn't.
We didn't actually.
We didn't miss it.
We said all the alien movies.
This is an email from Matthew Gaultier.
He says, what's up, friendos?
Well, the subject line says, buy anything stupid during quarantine.
Good question.
He says, what's up, friendos?
Hope all is good.
As a child, I remember having these little one-inch tall anthropomorphic
animal people called battle beasts circa 1988 and i just found them on ebay and i might have
just spent 300 on toys i think i remember battle beasts i'm just googling did they have little
holographic things on them yeah i know these i feel like i've just seen these in like the bottom
of somebody's toy chest a little holographicic thing on one, I think, and you rubbed it and the heat.
Oh, my God.
I remember these.
I think so.
Yeah.
Anyway, did you guys make any stupid purchases
while stuck in quarantine?
If not, what would you want to get?
Oh, man.
Much love.
Fox from Texas.
I very nearly bought a Lego 1989 Batmobile.
You should get that.
Like 400 bucks. I shouldn't get that then. I was going to say. Changed my mind on that. You should get that. Like 400 bucks.
No, you shouldn't get that then.
I was going to say.
Change my mind on that. 100 bucks?
Absolutely.
I would have bought it without a second thought, but I'm like, oof.
I bought some properly medically designed masks if I ever need one.
What an extravagant purchase.
But I also bought some for my family.
What an extravagant purchase.
Okay.
If I had to buy something, it would be that Star Wars
Arcade Trilogy arcade cabinet.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Which I can never justify owning.
The one that's like $7,000?
Yes, more than that, plus shipping.
But I'm hoping, because you know One Up Arcade,
I think they're called?
They repurpose, they make, they'll get like the Ninja Turtles cabinet
and they'll make like a slightly miniaturised one.
Oh, I see.
I don't think they ship here though, but I've just been waiting.
They've done some Star Wars ones.
They've done like the 80s ones, but I'm just waiting for them to make it.
So I'm like, bam, that's the one I want.
I want a giant box of Pop-Tarts, like a crate's worth of Pop-Tarts.
Because you can't really get them in Australia.
You can get like one variety.
You go to a store, like a specialty store.
You go to a specialty store, but I got a whole bunch delivered.
I don't think I've ever had a Pop-Tart.
They're not great, but they're all right.
I like the novelty of them.
How long does a...
They can't be good for you in any sense, can they?
Absolutely not.
But I'm in quarantine.
Who cares?
It doesn't matter.
How long do they last?
I mean, technically, I'm not in quarantine at all.
I'm still going to work and stuff.
That's true.
But you're keeping your distance.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, you're driving the tram from the top of the tram like Mr. Bean with a big rope.
That's right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, so I don't know.
I haven't done any.
I buy a lot of various kombuchas and things, don't I?
You sure do.
But is that extravagant?
Yeah, I don't know how much they cost individually,
so it is very extravagant.
They are expensive, aren't they?
You know, you can just get that can, finish it,
and then just go outside to a puddle and just scoop up some puddle water
and it'll taste the same.
Got you i've got
whatever company that is that's a good one they're called um liberty they're good liberty turd water
kombucha that's interesting i would 100 sponsor these guys in a minute too late i called them
turd water nah i do what i'd suggest about it so it's the best one i've tried a bunch of kombuchas
this is the best one nice Have you got any more?
Because I am.
I've got two more.
I've got two more.
Let's see.
One's a question and one's just a nice thing.
I thought we'd put some nice things in there.
This is from Nathan Mendoza.
Yeah.
He says, love the show.
Been a fan for years.
Hope all is well.
Everything is pretty well.
I wanted to ask how you felt about comics,
graphic novels that are considered one-offs,
how they are translated to the screen.
So more specifically, since I'm reading them,
Kick-Ass 1 and 2 wanted V for Vendetta and Scott Pilgrim. Do you feel they were translated well despite the changes,
or do you think making them into shows would have done them more justice,
like The Boys?
Yeah, okay.
Are there any great ones, and which ones do you feel
should be translated on the screen next?
We're getting The Old Guards, so that's exciting. Yeah the old guards and that's exciting i think v for vendetta is terrific
actually recently talked about that's with sal from comic pop there's a video on that channel
on this channel where we go through a bunch but good questions i think wanted is crushingly
average yeah it is and for people who have seen maybe seen the movie but not the comic book
wanted uh james mcavoy discovers that he's his father was an assassin.
He's good with the pistolas.
And it turns out he's got that same skill.
But in the comic book, it's the same.
He's still a shooty assassin.
But rather than all his teammates also being assassins,
they're all like comic book supervillains.
There's a Joker-style character and a Lex Luthor- and etc and i think that's it's it's so much better and the people i mean maybe there's a loom of
prophecy that tells you that's right yeah and i don't necessarily like i don't i don't think the
execution necessarily is perfect in wanted the comic book but i think just as an idea it's a
universe in which yeah the heroes the all the heroes were killed and the villains took over
the world yeah they banned it sort of ruined it yeah and i think that i the translation there felt to me like again like the
early days of superhero movies where they went we can't do this we can't we can't do this it'd be
too weird well yeah let's just have men in leather suits yes and then you know see how people like
that and it's like no just do the just go the whole hog although i'm sure that version would
be would have been massively more expensive.
Apparently the game, which is an adaptation of the movie,
it hits closer.
For one, he gets the uniform, like his outfit.
And it's not amazing, but it does things like the curved bullet mechanic.
It's like a cover-based shooter, but you can do-
It's like a golf game.
Yeah, pretty much, yeah.
You draw the arc and you click.
Pretty much.
And you wait for the meter to go back and forth and you're like, oh, too far.
Yeah, it's not fun.
How does that represent golf, a meter going too far?
You shouldn't.
You ever played golf?
No.
It's bad.
I've gone to the driving range, but I've never played golf.
Never hit the links?
No, I've never hit the links, James.
Never done that.
I think I told you this, but i had a golf day earlier this year
that my friends all organized like a golf dad day like a golf that's exactly what it was yeah
and so and then they were like you got to be down at this particular golf course
at 7 30 in the morning and i'm like the fuck out of here i'm not doing that because you know i want
to but then you did because you're a good friend right no mason i didn't what i did do instead
is went and bought a whole lot of golf clothes
and golf gear and turned up later to the barbecue in that gear
and went, who's ready to golf?
Nice.
And people are like, ha-ha, James, you do jokes.
And I'm like, I wasted like $120 on this gear for nothing.
That's like two kombuchas.
I know.
What's next?
Okay, one more letter.
This is from Benjamin King.
It says, a big lovely shout out.
I love shout outs.
Hey, James and May, so I recently got my shielding letter from the NHS
telling me I should stay home and not leave my house due to all this COVID stuff.
Yeah, don't do it.
And I've got to say it has somehow freaked me the heck out.
Yeah, I know a few people have.
Yeah.
The NHS in the UK has basically sent out letters being like,
you know, we know from your records you're a bit immunocompromised
or what have you, so you cannot leave the house for several months,
which is a bit of a something.
But he says, there are some things that are helping me through these times
and helping me stay calm,
and I was hoping you could shout it out for me on the pod.
Firstly, to all the great mates that's been in the main Facebook group
or the various spin-offs I'm in.
So we've got WrestleMate here.
We've got great poker mates.
We've got IG Greatie Mates, which is Star Wars,
and Gallerate Mates, which I'm assuming is Doctor Who.
I think that might be anyone.
This community is amazing.
They're kind, supportive, funny, and respectful.
There's Healthy Mates as well.
Yeah, there is, yeah.
I've never had such brilliant interactions online.
We're glad.
That's really good.
And it's also good that we don't run those, and they're so well.
They're nice.
Yeah, I mean, it's certainly well moderated by the folks,
Sarabi and Marty and Collings and Fidel and Maisie.
And, of course, Plevins, who started that.
He's still in there but not moderating.
Secondly, to the Weekly Planet peeps,
you fine gentlemen shooting news up about how clear with their recommendations
are the folks that do go on with their fascinating tales each week.
This is premium content and a brilliant distraction
from the harshness of the world.
And lastly, to my wife and fellow great mate Maria, who is 100% the best wifey anyone could
ever hope for.
Hang on.
No, you said it.
It's too late.
It's official now.
Sorry for such a long message, but wanted to throw out there how much you all mean to
me and how much I appreciate being part of such a brilliant family.
Grab that gem, guys, from Ben King.
Thank you, Ben King.
Truly, you are Ben King.
That's right.
Your name.
Truly, your name is officially Ben King based on this email you have sent us. That's right. Truly your name is officially Ben King based
on this email you have sent us.
That's really nice. It is nice. And thank you.
Thank you for reading those. They were really nice
to hear. You're very welcome.
Before we wrap it up, be
safe, obviously. Be careful.
Are you referring to me wrapping it up?
I should be safe while wrapping this up?
That's right. Be safe and wrap up in general,
Mason. Oh, hello. Hello. Anyone's going to play with this nail gun while I wrap wrapping this up. That's right. Be safe and wrap up in general, Mason. Oh, hello.
Hello.
Anyone's going to play with this nail gun while I wrap this show up.
But it's very much the virus.
It's very much real.
What virus?
The big virus that's happening at the moment.
It just is.
And just be as careful as you can, obviously, different circumstances.
Depends where you are in the world.
It depends on what state of your country is currently in.
Depending on what kind of state you're in.
Exactly.
Our friend who's high, Robert Keane.
That's right.
But even if you don't think it's real, which you know what?
You probably do.
If you're listening to this, you probably think it's real.
Robert Kelly.
Robert Kelly.
The high guy's name is Robert Kelly.
Yeah, that's right.
There's no harm in staying in anyway just in case you think it's not real.
That's right.
But heads up, it's fucking real and be careful.
Yeah.
And don't jeopardize yourself or others, please.
That's right.
Yeah.
Wash your dang hands.
Wash your dang hands.
Do you want to bring us home, Mason?
Thank you, everybody, for listening.
Thank you for sending a nice email.
Thank you for telling a friend about it in these strange times. thank you for sending a nice email thank you for uh telling a friend about it in this uh these uh strange times uh thank you for subscribing thank you for leaving
a nice review james do you have a nice review a couple here this says quality banter and it's
from ben from america lifestyle you could just do this in that mason did you know that we finally
got ben from america we've had ben from canada for ages we got the real version that's got him
no he's great he's great too. So I've been listening to the pod
for years. You can just do it in AppMason.
Listen to the pod? Yeah, no, no, yes.
And you can review in your iTunes or
whatever you do. And I've watched
almost all the YouTubes.
Thanks for providing countless hours
of entertainment. Also, just watch Ben
from Canada's Moneyball video. So good.
James Mason, please allow him to make more
great videos. He is.
He's got free reign.
So he's working on roughly every two to three weeks.
He's working on something.
So, yeah.
So I'm a bit busy at the moment with various family things and things going on.
But, yes, he can make stuff.
And so can you, Mason?
You want to make a video?
Yeah.
Yeah, off you go then.
All right, I'm going to film this glass of water.
Yep.
And then I'm just going to put it up on your channel.
I'll do it.
I'll do it.
I know you would.
I dare it.
But they wouldn't have the context, James.
No, I know.
The wonderful listeners would have the context
and they would give that an upvote and a like and a what have you.
But other people would be like, you should die, they'd say to me.
Yeah, but here's the thing, though.
If we do put it up, which, hey, it might happen, if you get it,
just write, I get it, but don't explain it.
Don't explain where you get it.
Don't explain how you know it, just that you get it.
This is another review from UnexpectedMaxPower0418.
You would think red-hot comic book movie news shooting up your butthole
would be painful, but it's actually quite pleasant.
That's great.
Five stars.
Excellent.
Bring us on, Mason.
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That's right.
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That's correct.
Yeah.
Us.
Yeah, us.
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That's a whole show, I reckon.
It is.
Caravan of Garbage starts this week with the Man of Steel trilogy.
I'm excited for that.
There's a very good trailer that I've put together.
You've seen it.
We put it together.
We came up with a fun concept and I think it's been executed flawlessly.
Thank you very much.
I mean, not as flawlessly as this video of this glass that I'm going to take,
but still pretty good.
That's right.
So next week, as always, I may or may not be back,
depending on how things are going.
Don't threaten us with a good time, James.
No, but seriously, I hope everything's all right.
Thank you.
I appreciate that.
Or maybe we just might do another news one this week.
The reason why this one was longer is because we had a chance
to record something earlier this week to make this a bit longer,
which was nice.
Okay.
Thank you, everybody, and goodbye.
Grab that gem.
We'll see you next week or maybe a week after that.
Maybe.
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