The Weekly Planet - 360 Big Ol' House of Sad Movies (with Aunty Donna)

Episode Date: November 9, 2020

Aunty Donna's Big Ol' House of Fun on Netflix: netflix.com/auntydonnasbigolhouseoffunVisit bigsandwich.co for a bonus weekly show, monthly movie commentary, early stuff and ad-free podcast feeds for $...9 per month. In a time of world wide turmoil, vicious politics, environmental concerns and a global pandemic we try and lighten the mood with Mark and Broden from Aunty Donna by talking the saddest movies. Plus the passing of Sean Connery, Johnny Depp exits Fantastic Beasts 3, Marvel’’s Avengers bombs hard, a Boba Fett moves ahead maybe, more delays but don’t dismays plus and the role of Tenet at the box office. Thanks for listening!00:00 The Start01:50 Sean Connery RIP05:28 Johnny Depp Exits Fantastic Beasts08:17 Marvel's Avengers & Miles Morales13:29 Boba Fett Disney Plus Series15:17 Delays But Don't Dismays17:36 TENET & Digital Releases28:34 Sad Movies with Broden & Mark from Aunty Donna01:30:24 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:44:16 Letters, It's Time For Letters James' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrown Patreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymovies TWP iTtunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 TWP Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanet TWP YouTube Channel ► https://goo.gl/1ZQFGH Amazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2QbmwGj T-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:55 This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. This episode is brought to you by the new 2040 corporate program that encourages your business to make good environmental decisions. You bloody hope they would, wouldn't you? You bloody hope they would, Mason. Yeah. Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of the Weekly Planet, where we talk movies, where, everybody, to another episode of The Weekly Planet where we talk movies, where we talk comics, where we talk TV shows, where we have special upcoming guests.
Starting point is 00:01:30 Oh, my goodness. That's right. So that's going to be later in the show. This week we've got a variety of topics, don't we, Mason? Yes. And we're going to go through it. We're going to talk Sean Connery. We're going to talk Fantastic Beasts news, I guess.
Starting point is 00:01:40 We're going to be talking about, what else have we got? Some video game stuff about, you know, that terrible Marvel video game that just came out. Oh, yeah, sure talking about, what else have we got? Some video game stuff about that terrible Marvel video game that just came out. Oh, yeah, sure. Yeah, I vaguely remember that. Some Star Wars news. Things are pushed back. And then, of course, special guests where we're talking about sad movies
Starting point is 00:01:55 that make us sad, but also comic book movies specifically. And then it just pivots to Batman, if I recall. Whatever, then it just goes to Batman. We recorded it earlier in the week. But it didn't record, so we've got them back in studio. We're just going to do it all again. Hey, guys. Welcome back.
Starting point is 00:02:06 Shush. Shush. Just shush. Stop flapping your gums, you idiots. If you haven't, check out Auntie Donna's new show on Netflix. If you're listening to this, it's probably almost out or already out. It's coming out on the 11th, which is Wednesday. But it might be at like a midnight.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Oh, is it? Okay, I was going to say. But it might be a midnight release, though. I think they said. It's fine. Yeah, you'll figure it out. It'll be out in a while. I've seen it.
Starting point is 00:02:25 Set the reminder. Have you? Yes. Oh. I have. Oh. Broden's sent me a copy. Nice.
Starting point is 00:02:31 It was great. But anyway, it's really great. It's really funny. I'll talk about it more in what we're reading. And we'll talk about it when we talk to the boys again. Anyway, Mason. Through time, yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:42 So we recorded a little bit early. Oh, time codes if you want to jump around. Last week we recorded a little bit early. Oh, time codes if you want to jump around. Last week we recorded a little bit early and as you were driving home we got the news that Sean Connery had passed away. Actually, I was in the car outside your house. Oh, really? I was checking my phone because I'm saying goodbye to my phone. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:56 You know, because I'm like, I won't be seeing you for 30 minutes, phone. My best bud, I'll put you away and then we're going to be apart for the longest we are at any time during the week. I'm sorry to hear that. So I'm going to put you away for then we're going to be apart for the longest we are at any time. Exactly. During the week. I'm sorry to hear that. So I'll put you away for a minute and then I was checking it and I'm like, oh, yeah, okay. Should I go back and record something? I was already in bed.
Starting point is 00:03:13 It was already over. Me too. Yeah, yeah. Had a little kip on the side of the road. Yeah. So, look, Sean Connery, age 90, which is a great ending. Obviously most famously known for James Bond, but also Alex G and movies in between. That's right.
Starting point is 00:03:25 One or two in between. One or two in between. Yeah. Have you seen Outland? I haven't seen Outland. It's like, um, it's like a Western, but in space. Is that where he's on the moon? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:33 He's a, he's like a cop on the moon. Yeah. It's like, I think I have seen that or half of it. It's like high noon. It's like he's, um, high moon. Oh my goodness. First poster of the week straight out of the gate. But yeah, he's like, uh, he's like, the week, straight out of the gate.
Starting point is 00:03:47 But, yeah, he's like, I think it's high note. There's a Western where, like, there's a husband and wife, and the wife's like, we've got to get out of this town on the last train. And he's like, no, but I've got to deal with these bad guys first. So if I meet you on the last train, I'll meet you there. But if you don't meet me there, I've been killed by the bad guys. And it's the same thing, except it's a space shuttle. Oh, very good. It's from the early 80s, right? Yeah. I just looked, I was like, has he ever
Starting point is 00:04:09 been in a Western? He was. He was in Chalakho from 1968. No idea. No idea what that is. And look, I feel like we have to at least acknowledge the fact that he did endorse hitting women multiple times. He really did, yeah. And again, we have spent a significant amount of time this week
Starting point is 00:04:27 and just an emergency Google just moments before the podcast starting. Did he change his tune on this? Did he change his tune? Did he make any donations to domestic violence charities? Did he do anything to recant any of that? Not really. The only thing we can find was in 2006 he apparently told friends that any abuse against women is never acceptable or something.
Starting point is 00:04:48 Yeah, friends close to the star said that he said. That's what they said that he said. So, yeah, so look. And that's, you know, you can enjoy whatever you want of him because he has done good work over the years, obviously. And again, like any – He's great in Indiana Jones. It might be my favourite role of his.
Starting point is 00:05:01 Yeah, and I mean if we didn't have that, we wouldn't have him in the LucasArts point-and-click Indiana Jones adventure games. Did he actually voice that? No. Oh, Mason, what did you make of that? Like all LucasArts games of that era, he's voiced by some coloured text that appears above his head in the colour that represents him, probably grey, because he's old.
Starting point is 00:05:18 Because he's old. Harrison Ford, I know, had some fun story about him. I can't remember the writer's name it was, but there was a great Twitter thread. The last movie he was going to do was a Brett Ratner movie and he was very involved in the process and eventually he was like Brett Ratner sucks and I'm not doing this. Oh, because he was very involved with the writers.
Starting point is 00:05:33 I wish I had the names in front of me. Anyway, I'm here for anybody throwing a shout out to Brett Ratner. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. If you love the movies in, if you love the Bond movies, a lot of people work together to make in, if you love the Bond movies, you know, a lot of people work together to make all that stuff happen. Exactly, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:50 So don't be like, oh, well, I can't watch these anymore. Yeah. But just be aware. You can because some of them are very boring, you could say that. Oh, yeah, you could certainly say that, yeah. If you're going to take a stand on anything. Yeah. Yeah, but so look, a complicated man, no doubt.
Starting point is 00:06:04 And then, of course, there's that story about how Michael Caine once held his coat while he beat up six men in a bar or something. I don't know if you've heard that story. Zardos. Oh, yeah, sure. The picture of Zardos. A picture of, imagine a man dressed as Zardos with big red underpants with suspenders holding them up. With a plait.
Starting point is 00:06:19 Yeah, he had a lot going on. 90, though. There you go. Good innings. So in other news,ny depp has exited fantastic beast 3 which is apparently filming at the moment so this is at the end of a defamation trial in london's high court where the judge found that the newspaper claims that were again that said that johnny depp was a wife beater was substantially true now he of course is denying
Starting point is 00:06:42 all these allegations and we do know of course that is denying all these allegations. And we do know, of course, that Amber Heard was also terrible. They're both terrible. It's a fucking horrible situation. We decided not to report on this, but now this relates directly to, like, a movie and its casting. So I feel like it would be weird if we said nothing and we'd definitely get messages. We are valid journalists.
Starting point is 00:07:01 That's right. We're valid journalists. We must, you know. So it says, like, Warner Brothers and him released a statement and it was very evident that even though he stepped down, they asked him to step down. Like that was what the statement said. Right, okay, sure.
Starting point is 00:07:16 And he also talks about how his resolve remains strong and he intends to prove the allegations against him are false and his life and career won't be defined by this moment. So, look, again, this is ongoing and we don't have all the information. Sure don't. We're not in that courtroom. We're not. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:30 So I think the next case is going to be in the US. So this was a separate case to the other case that's going on. So, you know, we can't wait to report back on that. God, we love it. We love talking about this stuff. It's so good. Yeah. Good and fun.
Starting point is 00:07:44 So what does that mean for Fantastic Beasts? Who gives a shit? That franchise is going off the rails. Nobody likes any of it anymore. People are getting, again, people are like, oh, you know what? You can still enjoy your Harry Potter books. You can still, exactly, yeah. You can still enjoy all the stuff.
Starting point is 00:07:59 It's fine. Because there's a lot in Harry Potter about inclusiveness, isn't there? There sure is. And about, you know, supporting each other and being your best. Everybody's fine. Because there's a lot in Harry Potter about inclusiveness, isn't there? There sure is. It's supporting each other and being your best. Everybody's somebody. Yep. And they could bring Colin Farrell back. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:08:13 Or anybody. Anybody at all. Anybody in the world. Also, Voldemort's not in every movie. So just don't have him in this one. It's fine. Do you mean Grindelwald? Whatever.
Starting point is 00:08:22 No, I meant Voldemort. He's not in like he's not really in one and two or three and then he shows up as like and then he's properly cast so you're saying grindelwald doesn't have to be in the next one i mean he wasn't really in the first one that's true but he was it was apology look i didn't mind that first one but there's been there's been a lot of sour harry grapes coming my way since, including that second movie. So whatever. But again, a lot of talented people work on these things
Starting point is 00:08:48 and that's how these things go. Ironically, what you just did there was like what happens in the last third of most of these movies, which is just somebody giving a huge info dump, like a rambling info dump and everybody sits and stares at them while they do it. And go, what an interesting backstory. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:04 Can't wait to tell my backstory when they stop talking. Yeah. Let's do a roundtable telling the backstory. Let's do it. Also, this comes via, this is some good news. This is the kind of news that makes me go, yeah, this feels good and right. So this is via the Video Game Chronicles, and this relates to the Marvel's Avengers game,
Starting point is 00:09:24 which was farted onto consoles and write. So this is why the video game chronicles and this relates to the Marvel's Avengers game, which was farted onto consoles and PC. So when you say good news, you're probably going to say bad news for the publisher of this game. That is exactly what I'm saying. But good news for people who want this game to go away. Yes. Because it is a games as a service and ongoing and it's very repetitive, I put
Starting point is 00:09:40 it down because You have two children. Well no, I said why on this show, but I can't remember specifically why. But I definitely went, no, I don't want to play this anymore. And then I stopped. Yeah, right. So the Tokyo-based Square Enix, so they were looking to make like their version of Destiny
Starting point is 00:09:57 and, you know, this ongoing thing. And it's like, we're going to support this game for years. More missions and stories, et cetera. Yeah, don't even worry about how much content you can get. You're going to love paying for content for years. More missions and stories, et cetera. Yeah, don't even worry about how much content you can get. You're going to love paying for content for years. Yep. So the Tokyo-based Square Enix reported a loss of 6.5 billion yen and sold 60% of what Square had initially projected, right?
Starting point is 00:10:14 So the numbers mean they haven't given official numbers, which is bad. Sure, right. I mean, they could lie. They definitely could lie, but it's estimated that they sold about 3 million copies, which is good, like, for fall guys for fall guys you know what i mean a game that didn't cost this it's good for indiana jones and the last crusade the point and click adventure exactly 90s like three people probably worked on that right yeah uh and it netted a loss of 63 million dollars it's like a lot of money it does and it's not gaining traction. People are not interested.
Starting point is 00:10:45 And apparently if you want to meet people online to do online gaming, it's hard to find them on servers. Yeah, it's horribly buggy. The servers were built around like there's going to be so many players that you can just jump in at any point, but you just get on a server and you're like, oh, there's no idea. Yeah, and often it would crash regardless. And I do also feel bad because there's story elements of that
Starting point is 00:11:07 that I think really work. And there are some design elements that I like. And, again, it's one of those things where it's all these corporate decisions ruin this. If, like, this was a single player with some maybe multiplayer elements where you just go through because I felt like when it was more focused and when it was like when you're not just fighting robots in a big box. Yes.
Starting point is 00:11:25 It was interesting. And the Kamala Khan story I thought was like an interesting perspective on it. But, yeah, no good. And good. And Miles Morales is out this week, so great. Apparently it's really good and it's shorter. That's a PS5 exclusive. No, it's coming to PS4 as well.
Starting point is 00:11:39 Oh, it's coming to PS4. So, yeah. If I buy it on PS4 and then eventually I buy a PS5. I think it gives you an upgrade or something. I think, yeah, most of the games are backwards compatible, I believe. But maybe you want to be getting an Xbox, new Xbox. I still don't know which version's a which and I feel I would make a mistake and the Surly EB Games employee would just be like,
Starting point is 00:12:01 yeah, you should buy that one. You should buy the Xbox One. And I'd be like, yeah, you should buy that one. You should buy the Xbox One. And I'd be like, okay. Wait a minute. He's given me a brick that's been painted that weird light grey colour. Doesn't do anything. No. Yeah, well, they got all the Fallout guys stuff, remember?
Starting point is 00:12:21 They got all that stuff. They bought that company. Oh, they bought Bethesda. Yeah, yeah, they sure did, yeah. They're going to get in Doom. Oh, that's true, yeah? They got all that stuff. They bought that company. Oh, they bought Bethesda. Yeah, yeah, they sure did, yeah. They're going to get Doom and much more of that stuff. Oh, that's true, yeah. But you know what? It's too early in the console generation for me to get anything.
Starting point is 00:12:31 And also, yeah, no, and also I think I've reached, because I've spoken about, you know, I bought Doom and Doom Eternal in the past. I think I've reached my absolute limit of, like, how good I'm going to get at those games. Yeah, right. Because they released a new expansion pack for Doom like a few weeks ago and I haven't played it but I just looked at like the first five minutes
Starting point is 00:12:50 of gaming and I'm like this is for people who absolutely breezed through the last two. Yeah. Like it's like I'm done and I need a new challenge and I'm like I'm never, I will never. Yeah. I will never be able to beat. Can't do it.
Starting point is 00:13:00 Two Cyberdemon in a narrow corridor or whatever and there's no escape. I'm like, I'm not going to be able to do that. Did you try the guns? That's one of the options in the game. Yeah, you were probably trying to point and click your way out of there. That's true, yeah. I was trying to step on a loose board at the end of a dock to flip a fish and I catch the fish and I use it to lure a troll.
Starting point is 00:13:24 Xander's got a key in it. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Or a book with a code in it. Might have a book with a code, yeah. Yeah, so there you go. Exciting, is it not? Yeah. Yeah, I'm excited for Miles Morales.
Starting point is 00:13:35 Yeah. So you're going to get it on PS4? Yes. So, again, it's short up but apparently it's just as compelling. And apparently also on the PS5 it looks amazing. Yeah, I bet. It's a great launch game. Also, it's kind of a side cool
Starting point is 00:13:45 but also takes the game forward. Again, I haven't played it so maybe it's not good. I don't know anything about it. I've seen a few minutes of gameplay footage and again I saw the thing you mentioned I think last week which is they gave him the Into the Spider-Verse suit and slowed his frame right down so he looks like the movie
Starting point is 00:14:01 version. That's fun. I watched that again yesterday because my son is a big fan. It's a fucking great movie, man. It's one of the best. Somebody wrote in, I wish I had it in front of me, but they were like, you said the worst comic book movie of 2018 was going to be that Sony one. I'm like, yeah, I don't remember saying that, but I probably said that.
Starting point is 00:14:17 Yeah, uh-huh. Yeah, but who thought that was going to be good? Not me. Not me. Yeah, but it's incredible. It's an incredible movie. Deadline are reporting that Boba Fett is getting a series, possibly filming before the end of the month.
Starting point is 00:14:31 There's lots of chatter happening over at Lucasfilm, but there might be some confusion between that and what's happening in The Mandalorian Season 3, which is gearing up as well. So this would be a spin-off of The Mandalorian. Yes. This would be a backdoor pilot, if you will. A Joanie Loves Chachi.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Oh, yeah, it would be a Joanie. How many. A Joanie Loves Chachi. Oh, yeah. It would be a Joanie. How many seasons did Joanie Loves Chachi get? I'm going to say one. Let me check, Mason. It's either going to be one or like seven. Yeah. You know, in that black hole that was the 70s slash 80s. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Totally. It got, so it aired for one season. Oh, 82 to 83. So there you go. Do you think, James, it'll be, do you think this Boba Fett spinoff is going to be more Joanie Loves Chachi or more Mork and Mindy? Two seasons. Good question. So who from Mork and Mindy appears in Happy Days?
Starting point is 00:15:10 Mork. So it is Mork, and he's like, I'm an alien. It's after the shark, presumably. I don't know. I mean, it would have to be, right? I don't know. Maybe they're like, no, no, Fonzie jumping the shark was too far, but Mork appearing in the diner was the pinnacle of television at the time.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Oh, no doubt. The president commented on it. Did he really? No, I don't know. It feels like he'd just weigh in. Yeah, I think so, yeah. Wait, which president, Mason? Sorry to get political.
Starting point is 00:15:37 It was probably. What year was it? Nixon, wasn't it? 70s? No, no, it would have been Jimmy Carter? Yeah, maybe. Which is the one that owned the peanut farm? It was Jimmy Carter, wasn't it? 70s? No, no, it would have been Jimmy Carter? Yeah, maybe. Which is the one that owned the peanut farm? That was Jimmy Carter, wasn't it?
Starting point is 00:15:48 Might have been Jimmy Carter. Yeah, but he gave away his peanut farm. You guys still build houses, isn't it? I know, right? Yeah, it's madness. It's like a million years old. It's a million years old. Man, I'd never help anybody.
Starting point is 00:15:58 That's the spirit. That's the only reason you'll never be president of the United States of America. Yeah, well, good. Seems like a nightmare. So, oh, no, what have we got here? Yeah, delays but don't dismay us, Mason. Oh, my goodness. We're a bit light on news, but don't worry,
Starting point is 00:16:15 because we're probably going to talk to the Aunty Donna boys for over an hour probably. Probably. Some of that might be just outside the door, you know, on my phone. Yeah, that's right, exactly. For some of that, it might be just outside the door, you know, on my phone. Yeah, that's right. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Walt Disney Studios have removed Ryan Reynolds' lead Free Guy and Kenneth Branagh's Death of the Nile from 20th Century Fox's December release schedule. So I remember when the Free Guy trailer, they made a joke and they were like, coming soon, we think, we hope. And we were like, great jokes, everyone. But then we remembered Disney can't tell jokes. No. They're bad at jokes.
Starting point is 00:16:48 They've got some jokes. Give me an example of one joke. Sometimes in Ant-Man someone will say something and they'll look to Paul Rudd and he'll pull a face. That's pretty good actually. He's good, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's one of the best. Do you think he has a clause in his contract that he gets paid per that number of faces that he does?
Starting point is 00:17:06 I think also he'd have to be paid because he's got such a youthful face. It takes a lot of physical toll on him to do it. That's how he stays youthful. He doesn't pull faces. He's got a face insured for a million dollars. That's right. Like J-Lo's butt. It's the J-Lo's butt of faces.
Starting point is 00:17:20 Yes, that's correct. Or the Michael Flatley's legs of faces. Yep, that's right. Great stuff. Riverdance. Riverdance. Yep. Jess Perkins, big fan.
Starting point is 00:17:30 Oh, I forgot to mention Star Wars news. We will probably talk about The Mandalorian, but I was on the Steel Wars chat this week on the Steel Wars channel. Actually, I've recorded today. It's out by now. It's out by now. Sure, yeah, great. A bunch of people got together and we talked about the latest episode
Starting point is 00:17:42 of The Mandalorian. Did you like it? Yeah, I did like it. But it wasn't my favorite, but if you want more thoughts on it, in that chat, and you can, you probably saw it, we'll talk about it later. More thoughts than that? Yeah. That's a lot, that's more thoughts.
Starting point is 00:17:54 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm excited for it. Okay, that sounds really good. So we mostly, we talk a lot about how those eggs have been eaten and the ethics behind that, which I think is important. Yeah, but Big Monster being killed this week as well. Oh, I haven't watched it yet. Oh, really? Yeah, but I've watched it. Yeah, but a big monster being killed this week as well. Oh, I haven't watched it yet. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:18:07 Yeah, but I've watched it. Oh, we can't talk about it, Mason. I assume it's going to. I assumed it is a big monster being killed. Yeah, yeah, all right. Well, we'll talk about it another week then. Bigger than the Krayt Dragon. No, not that big.
Starting point is 00:18:15 Huh. Smaller than a Krayt Dragon, but bigger than a small Krayt Dragon. Huh. So somewhere in that, huh? Wow, okay. Bandwidth. Sure. Great.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Wow. So what do you think about that, though? Free guy, death in the Nile, COVID cases are up in that bandwidth. Sure. Great. Wow. So what do you think about that, though? Free Guy, Death on the Nile, COVID cases are up in the US. UK's going into lockdown. Yeah. Cinemas are opening this week for us. Oh, it's true. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:34 We might be able to do Tenet next week. Maybe. If I can get that one seat in the cinema they're going to open up, maybe we'll talk about Tenet. Maybe. Fuck yeah. Can't wait. Yeah, I can't wait to see that seven out of ten.
Starting point is 00:18:46 Everybody says it is. Seven out of ten, I think you meant to say. Oh, nice. But speaking of, 4K Blu-ray, DVD and digital pre-release orders for Tenet will begin on November 10th. I don't know if you saw that, Mason. Oh, so the pre-orders. So it's not actually coming out.
Starting point is 00:19:02 But we're allowed to pay for it. Yeah, we're very much allowed to pay for it. Good on them for letting us pay for something we don't get. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's well within your right to purchase this thing when it eventually comes out. Are you excited for that? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:13 So, yeah, they reckon a base. It's good to know because oftentimes when they're like coming soon on Blu-ray and DVD and digital, it's Tenet, and I'm like, are they going to let me pay for that? You know? Yeah. Are we ever going to get to purchase that? But it's good to know just ahead are they going to let me pay for that? You know? Yeah. I'm never going to get to purchase that. But it's good to know just ahead of time they'll let me pay for it.
Starting point is 00:19:29 Quick sidebar, if you don't mind me just jumping this way. Yes. I've got to move to another microphone. Okay. I'm just pantomiming. He is pantomiming. Yeah, that's true. But what if I really did it?
Starting point is 00:19:39 What if I set up another microphone and it was a full like 40 minutes of me testing levels and trying to figure out chords? And then when we somehow lost 20 minutes, but then we're like, no, no, we're committing to this joke. We're doing it. So you probably saw this, but Amazon lost or involved in a court case where there's a clause within
Starting point is 00:19:57 their streaming services and their digital purchases where anything that they sell you don't own. Yes. So it can be removed from the digital platform, which also I think any digital platform owner, that is the risk of like if you purchase something digital, if that platform shuts down, like say for example if Steam shuts down, your games disappear.
Starting point is 00:20:16 They don't send you all the discs. No, that's true, yes. Or floppy discs. They don't send you those three and a half inch floppy discs. That's right. So I always. They won't put it all on a jazz drive. No, they won't, will they? What's a jazz
Starting point is 00:20:28 drive be holding? I mean jazz, but I'm talking about... One gig of jazz. How big is it? Just one song? Yep, that's right. I don't know how big a jazz drive was. Maybe like... It had its own separate power source, didn't it? Was that one of those ones? I don't
Starting point is 00:20:44 know. Let's know some of those. Let's look it up. Yeah, let's look it up. Look, I've lost my thread. Basically, you don't own anything. No, that's true. And it's because a lot of stuff, even if you buy it on Google Play or whatever, you don't get it and it downloads it to your TV or whatever.
Starting point is 00:21:01 Every time you want to – if you've bought it, it's in your library, and every time you want to watch it, it streams it from their server. Same with music. Yeah, so if the server shuts down or they lose the rights to distribute it again, it just goes away. Yeah, exactly. They can do that with Kindles as well, I think. Even if you buy a book, they've done it in the past where they're like,
Starting point is 00:21:19 for whatever reason we're removing this book, and then the next time you switch your Kindle on it just disappears, like they take it off the Kindle. What if you don't connect to a wi-fi device good question they send a guy around to beat you up i'm gonna give it to you on disc yeah it is not a book they're like they're like take this disc and you're like what are you and then they beat you up it's a distraction they don't delete it off your kindle because they're like that's actually clever work you've done there yeah you haven't connected but i am here to be we're allowed to beat you we're allowed to beat you up yeah We're allowed to beat you up.
Starting point is 00:21:45 Yeah. So you were going to say how big is it, whatever the thing is? Jazz drive. Yeah. Oh, that's pretty big. How big? That's like as big as like one of those external. Yeah, yeah. It's a serious situation.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Yeah. Yeah, early 2000s. These look very familiar. But that disc is like, it'll be like a three and a half inch. Oh, 95 to 2002. Yeah. Wow. What an era. Oh, my to 2002, yeah. Wow. What an era.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Oh, my God. I don't miss anything. Just the worst era. Oh, my God. I'd never go back. Do you know what I mean? There's nothing that I'm like, I mean, youth, sure. Sure, whatever.
Starting point is 00:22:16 It's gone. Joints that don't creak, whatever. The ability to roll over in bed without pulling a muscle, sure, whatever. But, I mean, other than that, just, oh, my God, you couldn't put anything. Oh, there was. Look, people don't know, James. Some people.
Starting point is 00:22:30 I think a lot of people know. People, like back in the day, if you wanted to download an MP3. Yeah. Sometimes what you had to do is you had to go onto like a weird, shady server and they'd make you upload. This is pre-Napster, by the way. Yeah, they'd make you upload a bunch of MP3s that they didn't have. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:47 So you were then allowed to download it. Would they check them before they sent you the thing? Oh, I don't know. You could send them Hot Action Cop like four times. But rename Hot Action Cop. Yeah, and you could say it's Hot Action Cop's new single. Yeah, or like it's one of the good Radiohead albums, you could call it. That's right.
Starting point is 00:23:03 The one you like because, you know, it's got a variety of sounds. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and then you'd maybe get something, right? Yeah, because some of these servers had a ratio. So if it was a 10 to 1 ratio, it was 10 songs and you'd get one of your own. That's crazy. What a nightmare.
Starting point is 00:23:19 Yeah. I don't think I ever did that. It was faster to just turn the radio on and wait for the song to play. Yeah, exactly. Anyway, all this sucked. Call in. I mean, besides, obviously, the LucasArts point-and-click adventure games. But the thing is, the things that I miss and like, I can get.
Starting point is 00:23:32 I like records, so I have them. That's right. So it's like, again, I wish I was young, Mason. Don't get me wrong, Mason. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, I think I've talked to this before, but every now and then I'll catch myself in the mirror and I'm like, how did we're, whoa.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Do you know what I mean? Jesus. Oh, yeah. But anyway, Ted It. Why am I suddenly holding this jazz drum? Maintaining my youth. Ted It's coming out. Oh, yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:23:58 And we might do an episode on it. Even if it's out, like we don't even know if it's going to cinemas this week. Yeah. I keep checking the website. Village Cinemas, Australia's own Village Cinemas. I got an email. Yeah, I got an email and it said it was on the little thumbnail. Yeah. But again,
Starting point is 00:24:13 what do we get? We getting 10 tickets to the theatre? What's going on? I don't know. I'm just looking again if my local... No, still not there. Because right now in Australia, for people who don't know, if you want to go to the pub, you can't just walk into the pub. You have to book in advance with a table of like six or eight. Exactly. And if one of you don't show up, they beat you up.
Starting point is 00:24:30 They beat you up. They send that guy over. He's real busy at the moment. Yeah. But so it's, yeah, also for those people going into lockdown, specifically the UK, I know there's, again, there's cases rising in the US. Honestly, it sucks. I'm really sorry.
Starting point is 00:24:45 Like it's, we did it for a long time and it just sucks. Yeah, it sure does, yeah. But it, I mean, it worked here and maybe it'll work other places hopefully if people stick to masks. And then we can all watch Tenet. We can all watch Tenet together in a big cinema. We've got a big cinema experience. That's right.
Starting point is 00:25:01 Big cinema experience. Yeah. That's how they're marketing it to us. That's right. Big cinema experience. That's how they're marketing it to us. That's it. So just one more bit of news before we bring in the Aunty Donna boys. Bring the big guns. Bring them in. So Christopher Nolan was talking about the cinematic experience
Starting point is 00:25:14 and what he believes Tenet brought to Tenet. What's it called? I'll find out this week. But what he thinks it did for cinemas. He said, I'm worried that the studios are drawing the wrong conclusion from our release. I was going to do his accent, but what is it? That rather... Not quite.
Starting point is 00:25:32 No deeper. Oh, yeah. Cellulite, obviously. There we go. Perfect. That's very Nolan, isn't it? That's his sequel to Love, actually. But it's not about love generally.
Starting point is 00:25:46 It's about the love of the cinema experience. Of course it is, yeah. Rather than looking at where the film has worked well and how that can provide them with much-needed revenue, they're looking at where it hasn't lived up to the pre-COVID expectations and start using that as an excuse to make our exhibitors take all the losses from the pandemic instead of getting into the game of adapting or rebuilding our business, in other words. other words so yeah he's basically saying that cinemas
Starting point is 00:26:09 are taking the hit for this thing not being as big as it would have been last year yeah right i guess which is yeah seems accurate but i if you're not opening up what do you what do you do you know what i mean we had this discussion because there are businesses closing. Yeah, yeah. But if people aren't going, what do you do? That's true. You know? Again, government bailouts. Yeah, maybe.
Starting point is 00:26:30 To small businesses or individuals. There are some cinemas in Melbourne that are doing Uber Eats if you want to buy a choc top or like a popcorn, they'll Uber Eats it to your house. Oh, my goodness. Yeah, yeah. So if you want some of that hot. I don't want one at home.
Starting point is 00:26:43 I want to get one out. I don't actually like them. I just get them. You know what I mean some of that hot. I don't want one at home. I want to get one out. I don't actually like them. I just get them. You know what I mean? Yeah, sure. I don't want this. Yeah, outside of context, you're like, hmm, this is a weird cone, chocolate-coated ice cream.
Starting point is 00:26:55 Yeah, exactly. Why would I order boysenberry? I don't understand. I always get boysenberry. I don't even know why I do it. I think it's because I don't want something too salty for cinemas. You know what I mean? Yeah, I understand.
Starting point is 00:27:04 Sure. You know what I mean? Because it's understand. Sure. You know what I mean? Because it's like there's three flavors. There's vanilla, there's very salty caramel and there's poison berry. Sometimes there's mint.
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Starting point is 00:28:10 Hey Mason, is your business, the business of podcasting slash tram driving, Go on. is your business or organisation ready to take climate action? I hope so. Or grow its commitment to climate action? I all additionally hope so, yes. Good, Mason, because the team behind the Australian feature
Starting point is 00:28:25 documentary 2040, which of course was part of the program which we raised money for last year for a seaweed farm, if you remember. Directed by Damon Gamow, has launched a corporate program designed to encourage businesses to lead on climate, embed more sustainable practices and environmentally friendly
Starting point is 00:28:41 behaviours in the workplace, strengthen their commitment to carbon reduction, and inspire climate action. My goodness. Action. So we're going to stop burning all these styrofoam containers? Not this week, but we will. Okay, great. That's why 2035.
Starting point is 00:28:54 I understand. Sure, sure. 2040 is a positive, empowering journey which explores what the future could look like by the year 2040 if we embrace the best solutions available to us now to improve the planet. There is a trailer which people should absolutely check out if they have not already. It is on YouTube and it's also on a number of streaming platforms. But the idea is that this program enables you to screen 2040 digitally or physically and provide a range of tools to empower your business to start or continue your climate
Starting point is 00:29:18 action journey. And you can also tailor your engagement program from messages from 2040's director through special Q&A events, impact workshops, and unique opportunities to tell the story of your climate commitment. For bookings, because you can book this. You can make this change literally wherever you are, businesses big, small, in between, wherever you are on the structure of the corporate ladder. Well, let me put down this styrofoam container in this ladder and you can tell me how I can
Starting point is 00:29:43 do it, James. You can learn more at whatsyour2040.com slash corporate. And as said by the 2040 team, together we can stop Mason from burning styrofoam by the year 2040. Good luck. Together we can make climate change everyone's business because it absolutely is. I don't know if you look around, but whatever you're looking at, that's on the planet. We're all on that planet. That's right, yeah. Yeah. So unless you're on the moon, in which case.
Starting point is 00:30:10 How'd you get on the moon? And get back to work. Stop listening to podcasts. Keep digging up those moon rocks for your moon lords. I'm with the show. But do it. It's bloody planets. We've got all this stuff out here.
Starting point is 00:30:20 It's bloody, you know, may not be here much longer if we don't bloody get onto it. Exactly. Now, Mason, it's a very exciting time for streaming of Netflix comedies, specifically Auntie Donna, because they have a new streaming comedy right now on Netflix. No, on the 11th, which is the day after this comes out. Can you be any more specific? Can you be more specific?
Starting point is 00:30:41 I'm not picking up what you're putting down. They're going to really love it. Huh. And I thought what better way to let them know that they're really going to love it by getting two of the six members of Aunty Donna in here to talk about some stuff. So one third of Aunty Donna. Oh, sorry. The tone's been lowered already. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:30:56 I did a fine. We've got Mark and Broden from Aunty Donna here. Thank you so much. Thanks, guys. Thanks for coming in. Red hot comic book movie news. Shooting up your butthole. Should we so much. Yeah, thanks, guys. Thanks for coming in. Red Hot Comic Book Movie News. Shooting up your butthole. Should we change the theme song, do you think?
Starting point is 00:31:09 Oh, no. I would be upset if it changed now. Okay, yeah. I feel like a lot of people feel that way. Maybe a redo of it, like a remix version. Okay, sure, yeah. Where, like, a record squibble. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:17 Check it. And then it does a few guys do a rap. I think that'd be cool. Have, like, a real distorted synth underneath. Yeah, right, okay. What about, like, a poignant one with, like, a Christian choir and they all sing it together? That'd be good. Have like a real distorted synth underneath. Yeah, right. Okay. What about like a poignant one with like a Christian choir and they all sing it together? That'd be beautiful as well.
Starting point is 00:31:29 Maybe, yeah, like post-election we could be all sad. We could do a Saturday Night Live style. Beautiful stuff. Mason, you had a really – oh, by the way, before we get into it, you've got a show on Netflix. It's airing on the 11th. This really is the best place for news. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:43 Absolutely it is. So this is super exciting. We just recorded another thing about how you talked about how the Netflix deal happens, which we'll go up later in the week. But tell us a little bit about your show. This is what you do, right? You've got a promo thing? Yeah, I don't know. I guess
Starting point is 00:31:57 we haven't been doing this every day for the last two fucking weeks. That's lucky then, isn't it? Mark's been down to the promo mines. He's wearing a boiler suit, I should say, for the listeners. No, that's just for fashion. Oh, my goodness. I was joking for you.
Starting point is 00:32:10 Thank you so much. It's called Aunty Donna's Big Old House of Fun. I almost said the D. There is no D. It's O with a K. O. Yeah. And, yeah, Netflix, it's a sketch narrative show that we made in America.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Barely narrative. Yeah, barely. Narrative light. There's some similar characters. It's a narrative light sketch. made in America. Barely narrative. Yeah, barely. Light narrative. Narrative light. There's some similar characters. It's a narrative light sketch. Narrative zero. Narrative zero. Coke zero.
Starting point is 00:32:35 And, yeah, we shot it in America, but it's mainly just us three boys laughing about and doing silly stuff, but it's also got Weird Al Yankovic and Ed Helms and Homelander from The Boys. I get to kill Homelander. You get to kill Homelander. You get to kill Homelander. Oh, it's so fucking cool. Spoiler alert. Finally, God. When I saw the blink of that in the trailer, I'm like, oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:32:51 Yeah, yeah. Super cool. It's not a spoiler. It's in the trailer. Yeah. And I hadn't seen The Boys yet. Okay. But I knew about it.
Starting point is 00:32:58 And I knew about Tony. And then we're doing it. And then I watched The Boys recently. And just the whole time I was like, I killed that man. I killed him. So you were just like, he's a big, nice guy. Oh, man, that's incredible. So, yeah, it's out now.
Starting point is 00:33:12 If you listen to this, it's out. Go and listen. Watch it, sorry. Or listen. And just watch it through. It's good for the algorithm, right? It's great for the algorithm. It's good for comedy.
Starting point is 00:33:21 It's a cool thing to have in the background of your house for maybe 12 months. Yeah. It's funny. Leave the house, do the groceries, just put it on loop. The world's fucked anyway. The carbon emissions are out of control. It's not going to do any real damage, is it? Yeah, no. It means the terrorists win if you turn it off.
Starting point is 00:33:40 I don't want that. I don't want that. Go to a Best Buy in the middle of a riot and just turn on all the TVs and play it just to Aunty Donna. Pop them on. Sells more TVs. Absolutely. Now, you guys, you love fun and comedy and fun exclusively.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Is that right? Those three, yes. Yes, in that order. But, Mason, you had a terrific idea for a podcast topic. Well, my initial idea was you said we're getting some very funny boys on the show. And I thought, well, what's the opposite? And my initial first thought, like genuinely, was we just go around the table saying the saddest things we can think of but make it funny. Like sad clown kind of situation.
Starting point is 00:34:18 But then I genuinely had the saddest thought I've had in a very long time. And I just got profoundly sad. And I'm like, well, that's not going to work. It wasn't, oh, no, Aunty Donna's coming on today, was it? That wasn't the saddest thought. I have to do this with Aunty Donna. Oh, yes. Yuck.
Starting point is 00:34:33 Are you going to save the sad thought? No. Save it to the end? I'll tell you what, I'll tell you guys what it was. If James, you could cut it out. Okay, no worries. Okay, so it's like. Can I say?
Starting point is 00:34:43 Yeah. I'd love to option that sad story, Nick. Pretty good, right? I would like to give you $1.5 million to develop that. Oh, my goodness. Take it. I should have negotiated, but no, no, I'll take it. I'll take it.
Starting point is 00:34:55 But you had a follow-up idea, though. Sad movies. Sad movies. Just sad movies. It could be sad TV shows. It could be literally whatever. So I've got a list here, and you guys obviously, you can Google some things as well during the show.
Starting point is 00:35:05 Which is mostly what we do. Yeah, exactly. That's the process. I actually, James, and other guests, Roden and Mark also are here, I Googled saddest movies and then it filled in saddest movies that make you cry, you, with the letter U. Right. And the sixth one out of the gate is Mark Wahlberg's Patriots Day.
Starting point is 00:35:27 That's the one about the bombing, right? Austin Strong, yeah. That is my plane movie. I watch that legitimately whenever I'm on a plane because it's just, it's a weird energy, that movie. I bet, yeah. It's got weird American patriotism. It's Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross who are, like,
Starting point is 00:35:41 potentially two of the best composers for film at the moment. They did Watchmen, obviously, as well. Yeah, yeah. And Mark Wahlberg going around going, what's going on here, chowderheads? What are you doing here? It's a weird move. That's sad. I guess it's obviously sad, but it's also weird.
Starting point is 00:35:58 What a combo. That's the energy we're after, yeah. I think I've got the ultimate sad kid movie. I've actually never seen this, but I've seen the clip. My Girl. Oh, my God. Did you guys watch that as children? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:11 Horrific. Horrifically sad. So to sum up My Girl, what's the narrative and then what happens? Well, look, I watched it as a kid and I've never watched it again because the only thing I remember is the kid is allergic to bees and then gets attacked by bees. Do they set it up at the start? He's like, I hope I don't get stung by bees.
Starting point is 00:36:29 Yes, I think so. So it doesn't come out of nowhere and then they're like, and he was allergic to bees the whole time. Yeah, yeah. Because it's Macaulay Culkin, right? And he dies from bees. And the other sad movie that I remember off that, these are two movies I watched as a kid and I've never watched again because I just, I have one memory of each of these films. And the My Girl is when he's getting stung by bees. It's like, this is
Starting point is 00:36:49 horrible. And the other is he played in I can't remember what the movie is. Maybe you guys remember. There's a movie where he plays a bit of a psycho kid. The Good Son. The Good Son. And he's holding him from the treehouse. Yeah, yeah. That is embedded into my brain. So those are like one thing to you.
Starting point is 00:37:06 Yes. Just these two Macaulay Culkin films that terrified me as a child and made me so sad. In your mind it's Macaulay Culkin holding another Macaulay Culkin off a treehouse into like a big pile of bees. It's the ultimate sad film. I think that that movie, My Girl, is the reason that the bees are perceived the way they are now. So that's like the sharks and jaws.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Yeah. Yeah. If you see a bee now, you're like, well, I'm going to be the Macaulay Culkin. I'm going to die. I'm allergic to bees. They're going to My Girl me. I've got friends who are terrified of bees who have never been stung from bees. Oh, it's you.
Starting point is 00:37:41 Yeah. But think, what if I'm allergic to bees? Yeah. And then they just live that life every day. I was stung by a bee recently when we were in L.A, it's you. Okay. But think, what if I'm allergic to bees? And then they just live that life every day. I was stung by a bee recently when we were in LA and he died. Shooting our Netflix show. Oh, my God. I was allergic to them and I turned into a bee.
Starting point is 00:37:54 No, that didn't happen. Okay. We would have got letters. But, Mark, I would like to option that. I have $1.5 million in the bank. I'll take it. I shouldn't negotiate it. That's option that. I have $1.5 million in the bank. I'll take it. I shouldn't negotiate it. No, it's all right.
Starting point is 00:38:08 I'm probably not going to get a better deal. But I was doing a hike up to the Hollywood sign. Runyon Canyon? No. Okay. To the Hollywood sign. But I was living near Runyon Canyon and did that. I was just praying I'd run into Kevin Smith.
Starting point is 00:38:22 Never did. I was just like, because I know he does run in Canyon every day. Never ran into him. What would I say anyway? Hello, Kevin. Hi, Kevin. I'd be like, I'm walking my dog. Fuck off.
Starting point is 00:38:35 But we were really thirsty. We were really, really thirsty. And we'd run out of water and we found a fountain. And the fountain. I know the fountain. I know the fountain. You know the fountain? Covered in bees. Yes.
Starting point is 00:38:48 Covered in bees. And you braved it. And we braved it through, right? And we went up there because my friend did it first and she went up and she filled her bottle and she walked away and she was fine. And I was like, great, I'll do the same thing. I get up there. I do bee, bee, bee, bee.
Starting point is 00:39:04 Oh, so it was like multiple stings. They all landed on me and then one stung me and then I just like backed off. Because when they sting, don't they, sometimes they're all like, we're killing someone. It's the Macaulay Culkin effect. I don't think they do that. That's the my girl. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:39:18 That's the my girl fear speaking. So you didn't have to jump into a river or anything. No, but it fucking got me and it was real. It was, and it hurt. Yeah. It hurt. Did you just scrape out the thing? Yeah, pulled it out and the dead bee was there, but it fucking got me and it was real. It was, and it hurt. Yeah. It hurt. Did you just scrape out the thing?
Starting point is 00:39:29 Yeah, pulled it out and the dead bee was there, but it was fine after a couple of minutes. Nothing to be scared of. Unless you're allergic to bees, mate. I don't know if I'm allergic to bees. I have two trauma. One is a TV show and one is a film, but Fox, I actually don't remember much of the film, but I know that I can't watch it ever again.
Starting point is 00:39:44 Fox and the Hound, the Disney film Fox and the Hound. There's so many of those. I can't actually tell you what happens in it. I can only see images and shapes in my head, and I know that I will never watch that film again because it really hurt me. The other one, and I'm sure this is going to be a common one, but Futurama, the dog episode. Oh, my God, yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:02 That I can't ever, no. Because the whole episode, it builds up like he's trying to bring this dog back to life. And then he makes the decision that the dog probably had a really good and happy life after I left. Yeah. And then you think that's how it's going to go, but the dog just waited for him for eight years.
Starting point is 00:40:17 And then died in the rain or whatever. It's so sad. That montage. That show, it sneaks some stuff in like that. I love it. The first four seasons of Futurama are just perfection. Very Matt Groening thing to do and very, very, those writers. It could be the reason, like, Futurama's popularity kind of,
Starting point is 00:40:32 like, dropped there as well. It was firing along, but then I, like, I question ever turning on an episode of Futurama now because I'm hoping it's not the dog episode. You never know when they're going to throw a dog at you. Yeah. Do you have a, does anyone have an ultimate sad movie that they watch to make themselves sad? That's a great one.
Starting point is 00:40:50 Because I do. What's that? There's a movie that I have that any time I'm really sad, I put it on and it makes me fucking cry and it's very cathartic for me. It's The Wrestler. I've never seen The Wrestler. The Wrestler destroys me, right? I bawled my eyes out when I saw it in the cinema
Starting point is 00:41:08 and it was one of the first movies that ever made me like audibly weep. Do you guys feel like as you get older you get more emotional? Oh, yeah. Because I feel like as I was younger I was like, I'm not going to cry about anything. I hit 26. Okay. I turned 26, I started crying in movies.
Starting point is 00:41:22 It just happened. I don't know what it was. And now I'm just like. Was it the dog episode of Futurama? It was the dog episode of Futurama that got me, broke me. But the wrestler, when he's like, there's a couple of moments in that movie, it's so beautifully paced, so well done. But when he's like, when he's talking to his daughter and he says,
Starting point is 00:41:40 I'm just a broken down piece of meat, right, is one of the saddest lines and it's delivered so beautifully. It's Darren Aronofsky doing a movie before he started losing his mind again. He's like, I don't like him anymore, but the rest was incredible. There was a moment once where I was driving and my car broke down and I was hungry, so I rang Mark and I said, I've broken down, can you bring me some meat? And he weeped for days and never showed up. It was tragic.
Starting point is 00:42:12 I wanted to ask you about putting on a movie intentionally to make you sad. Yeah, yeah. Do you think it's that valve release, right? Yeah, yeah. That excuse to kind of let some emotions out. Yeah, absolutely. You're not going down like you're doing some MMA on a punching bag or whatever. No, no.
Starting point is 00:42:27 It's just like it's a thing where it's like I'm in a really sad mood. I can't make myself cry because I just feel nothing. This is funny stuff. It's funny. That's what we're here for. This is funny stuff. That's right. I put it on and it triggers it.
Starting point is 00:42:39 It's great. I love it. That is great. Yeah. I haven't seen The Fox and the Hound. You should watch it. That is great. Yeah. I haven't seen The Fox and the Hound. You should watch it. Why though? You hate Disney movies because of all their sadness, right?
Starting point is 00:42:51 Just I gave up on them as a kid. Like I missed out on so many good movies as an adult because I'm just like, Dumbo, ugh. All these. Bambi, ugh. These 1950s morals they're trying to drill home and they're doing it quite hard. Like when kids were kids and they had jobs at seven, you had to teach them how the world was.
Starting point is 00:43:08 How to feel as well. This elephant has big ears and you've got to go to work. You have big ears as well, kid. Maybe your ears are bigger, slightly bigger than your friends. You are a freak. If you can't fly and get into the circus, it's down the mines with you. Come on. That's another sad thing as well.
Starting point is 00:43:23 The saddest thing is the ending of the Marvel Infinity War. That ending was just so tragic, wasn't it? I should know this. The death of Tony Stark. Is that what you're talking about? Oh, I've not seen that movie. I'm talking about the end of the series where he snaps his fingers
Starting point is 00:43:37 and half the world dies. Yeah, that is really sad. I haven't looked into it, but when I filmed it, I went, that's awful, and I haven't thought about it again well i guess i guess as as people who are so like clued into that universe and we're like well they're adapting a series and we know how it goes and blah blah we know they're all going to come back later or whatever but the feeling of just loss in the audience of people who had no idea what was coming and they're like we're gonna see it we're gonna see another dumb superhero movie and it's
Starting point is 00:44:03 gonna it's gonna they're all gonna they're gonna defeat see another dumb superhero movie and it's going to they're all going to, they're going to defeat him at the end and it's going to be great. And just like this, you just felt the room go, this is the end of this and this isn't. They did it quite well. We love these products. We love all these corporate products. That made me do a little tear. Yeah, right. Yeah, I shed a tear for Tony. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:19 I liked the hologram at the end. I think that was the moment that was the most kind of touching. You know where he's like, I'm a hologram and everything will be okay, but it's like he's not because he died earlier in the end. I think that was the moment that was the most kind of touching. You know where he's like, I'm a hologram, but everything will be okay. But it's like he's not because he died earlier in the movie. You've all seen it. Except for Broden. Yeah, I'm not familiar. But at the end of Infinity War,
Starting point is 00:44:35 I grieved that I'm going to have to spend $30 more. You've done it. You've done it. Broden. You've done it. And you've got to get a popcorn. It's a whole thing. Apparently, I'm sure you know about it and have spoken about it,
Starting point is 00:44:47 but the scene that was supposed to happen between Tony and his adult daughter. Yeah, yeah, right. Do you know about this, Broden? So after he snaps, there was supposed to be a scene where it's Tony talking to his daughter grown up, but then they cut it because they were like, no one knows who she is because we haven't put her in it before.
Starting point is 00:45:02 It's just he's talking to this older girl. It's just weird. Is this a woman? It has to be emotionally resonant. no one knows who she is because we haven't put her in it before. He's talking to this older girl. It's just weird. Is this a woman? It has to be emotionally resonant. Is this a woman he slept with in one of the previous movies? We can't remember. Who the fuck is that? Imagine having that reaction.
Starting point is 00:45:16 He goes into that weird blood dimension or whatever. That was where it was supposed to be, right? Yeah, I think so. The one that that goes into or whatever. Kids movies, never-ending story when the that Thanos goes into or whatever. Kids movies. Neverending Story when the horse drowns in the mud. Do you guys remember that? I don't remember that.
Starting point is 00:45:30 The only thing I remember from Neverending Story is how fucking weird that flying cat is. It's super. Falcor? Falcor. Have you watched it recently? Not recently. Falcor is sus.
Starting point is 00:45:44 Falcor is sus. Like there's some real like just is weird around the characters i don't want to get into it but it's not cool from memory the horse swamp scene yeah it's quite early yes like it's in the first half and i don't know the swamp of despair or whatever it's called you're just going along you're excited for a big adventure and they really punch you right between the eyes in that film. It looks like they drowned a horse as well. You go back, it looks like they take a horse. Dare we Google it?
Starting point is 00:46:13 Obviously they probably didn't kill a horse. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, we'll see, won't we? Submerging a horse in mud. I'm confident. I mean, it was probably a puppet. I don't know. You could probably type into Google Did
Starting point is 00:46:25 And it will auto filter The course in Neverending story Actually get drowned But yes No that is The 80s 80s is brutal
Starting point is 00:46:34 I don't know what the lessons were then It's like with the Disney thing It's like your parents could die You can lead a horse to a swamp But don't walk it in I think is the Oh okay right But he shouldn't have taken the horse
Starting point is 00:46:43 Through the sad swamp He should know that No No, happy swamp, different story. That's right. Has everyone seen The Notebook and did it have any effect on you? I think it would more now. That was one of the first things Claire and I watched together. And then I gave her the DVD. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:46:57 this is actually for you. It was a very romantic gesture. Blu-ray? True story. No, no, this is pre-Blu-ray. Oh, not Blu-ray. It was before there was regular DVDs. That explains a lot. It wasn't a VHS. That explains a lot. But what were you going to say?
Starting point is 00:47:10 My memory of the notebook is like watching it and thinking, oh, this is fine. I was with my girlfriend at the time. I was quite young. And then the movie finishing and looking down, and she cried so much into my T-shirt and gone see-through. I was just like soaked with her tears. Oh, my God. I guess it's sad. Yeah, she doesn't. It-through. I was just like soaked with her tears. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:47:26 I guess it's sad. Yeah, she doesn't. It's her. I don't know. Whatever. Were you like, oh, it's a bit saccharine or whatever and it's not for me? Yeah, it was a little much. A little much, you know.
Starting point is 00:47:36 I felt like I was being manipulated into feeling sad. I think the die together in bed together got me. It's like that's not how it happens. One dies and the other one hangs around for three years and then they die of sadness. I want to see that story. Do you know what I mean? Yes.
Starting point is 00:47:50 Just three years of him living his life, shuffling around, looking at photos. Checking the change. Checking the change. I guess we're keeping that in for the joke. No, we take it out. The horse wasn't. The horse lived.
Starting point is 00:48:04 Thank God. Was it a puppet horse head? No, it was. The horse wasn't. The horse lived. Thank God. Was it a puppet horse head? No, it was a real horse. The horse was supposed to sink, but the actor did and also broke his leg and his back. The kid? Yep. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:48:16 That's kind of sad, I guess. While we're on sad movies, can I please bring up, I've been waiting to come on here for a long time, and I want to bring up the experience of sitting in between these two men. I ran into these guys in an early screening of Joker. Joker. And to sit next to these two men as they watch that film, because I'm like you listening.
Starting point is 00:48:38 I go and hear these guys talk about all the films and their opinion matters to me. And to sit next to them, which is a sad film. Yeah, sure. Yeah, it's sad. And to hear their reviews live was just like the most incredible experience. Oh, really? Were we talking during that?
Starting point is 00:48:53 You weren't, but you were doing little movements and breaths. Oh, and tells, sure. And they had immediate reviews. Like I turned to them and Mason was just just like 100 like he was texas in voting he was like hated it like and it was and james and you both haven't really moved from that have you not really we watched it one more time didn't we i don't think we pretty much stayed the same it should be a thing for big sandwich or patreon one of your things is you can sit next to these guys for a movie and see how they respond.
Starting point is 00:49:28 But I wanted to also lean over to them because I knew there were going to be sad moments and lean over to James and go, he's not laughing now, is he? I was really keen to do that, but I never had the confidence. You should have done it. I would have loved that. He's becoming the Joker. Mike, what do you think of that movie? I know you're a Batman fan.
Starting point is 00:49:45 We nearly did a Batman topic because, you know, you love Batman. I do love Batman very much. And I've watched the – I shouldn't do it to myself because trailers can ruin things, but I've watched the Batman trailer like 20 times. I'm so excited. I think it's going to be really cool. I really liked the Joker.
Starting point is 00:50:04 I thought it did things – for me, it did things that even the comic's going to be really cool i i really liked the joker i thought it did things for me it did things that even the comic books haven't been able to do in my opinion which was like set up a gotham where it makes sense that the joker would have cronies and would have people that followed him and set up a gotham that makes sense for me for bruce wayne to walk into and want to change and want to say yeah Yeah, right. And that I loved. That I really loved. Like the taxi driver stuff, whatever, give or take, that's cool. That is what it is.
Starting point is 00:50:30 But like the world building of that. I thought what it did for Gotham, I'd never seen it painted that way. I thought that was really clever. So imagine me, right, because the- Oh, here we go. It's always a bad road, isn't it? The general vibe walking out of it, I was like, I love this. And then walking out, my only feedback was these guys.
Starting point is 00:50:47 And they're like, no. But then the world kind of said yes. And I saw it a week before anyone else saw it. So I was walking around for a week going, am I broken? Because I thought that was good. And these guys are walking around going, nah, no good. Bad luck. I didn't say that.
Starting point is 00:51:02 You're broden. I'm with you in terms of like yeah like the on the nose like taxi driver stuff and you know when he's yelling
Starting point is 00:51:10 about what the movie's about in front of the studio audience yeah yeah yeah but yeah I think there is some really good stuff in that movie yeah yeah and that part of the city
Starting point is 00:51:17 building as well but also the rule is that if I disagree with your opinion on a comic book movie the rule is I must personally attack you we know this from online.
Starting point is 00:51:25 Yeah, that's true, yeah. So I hate you both. I understand. I think people listening to this will appreciate that. Just quickly, do you want to see like a sequel in that universe or are you like that's a one and done? You don't need Batman to come in and go, this is a shit show. I don't.
Starting point is 00:51:39 That's what I'm really like enjoying about kind of maybe where DC and moving are just these like little one shots, you know, like the black labels, you know, that, that kind of thing. You see Batman's dick and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:51:49 I have that issue. I have the dick issue. I have the dick issue. It's so exciting. Cause like I, I got that because I had it, you know, cause I love Azarello and I was like,
Starting point is 00:52:00 you know, anything he's doing, just give it to me. Yeah. And I'm signed up, got it, read it. You didn't see the dick.
Starting point is 00:52:05 I didn't see the dick the first time I read it. Yeah, you'd have to kind of know what you're looking for. Yeah, you don't expect it. You're not going in. Yeah, and then I went in the next month and the store was like, do you have my copy of two, like Damned Issue 2? And they were like, no, obviously because of the dick situation. I was like, what are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:52:19 And then I looked up and I see it behind glass and, you know, the price has gone up to $75. And I'm like, oh, what's happened? And they walked me through it. I went home, looked at the dick, had a great time. Yeah. And my favourite part of that is that, like, if you go now to, like, a comic buyer's guide or whatever,
Starting point is 00:52:35 like, that has all the prices of, you know, valuable comics, it's like Batman Damned issue one, you can see his dick, you can't see his dick. It's two different prices. So how much is Batmanman's penis worth i guess like it i mean the the the censored one is probably worth like cover price i guess yes 75 bucks batman's dick is worth 70 that's 70 dollars i saw a copy in in a new york comic book shop but it had been uh i think it had been signed potentially on the dick um on the dick
Starting point is 00:53:02 by batman look at my dick. It had been signed and it was about, I think it was 185 US. Okay, why? But mine isn't signed so it wouldn't be.
Starting point is 00:53:11 But for a millionaire like Bruce, it's actually not that much. That's not a lot of money. That's not a lot of money. Maybe we should have done a Batman topic. Well, Batman is sad
Starting point is 00:53:20 because he's dead. We can pivot. We're not married to this. Absolutely not. And people are all on the verge of turning off anyway because they're like, I'm so dead. We can pivot. We're not married to this. Absolutely not. And people are all on the verge of turning off anyway because they're like, I'm so sad. We talk about Batman. But I was going to say, yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:53:32 It makes sense in that movie that people would just be like, why are all these thugs lining up to just work for the Joker when he's just going to kill them every time they mess up? I've never seen that before. I thought it was the first time they actually gave it some proper context and I was like that's something that's never been done in that comic book world. And I love that.
Starting point is 00:53:52 I love when writers try to break new ground or give me something interesting, especially with a character that's fucking 80 years old. It's so hard to do something new. I felt like it did. Yeah, I agree with you because I think I love that they can go in different directions now. It doesn't have to be all tied into this one continuity and that's how you end up with like that Justice League movie
Starting point is 00:54:09 that came out, which we all enjoyed. But did any of the Batman movies like affect you guys? You're like, oh, that goat just moved. I was like, what the fuck? The puppet, the hand just like moved. The Han Solo puppet. I thought it was like. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:54:26 Sorry. We're conjuring it. Sorry. You've done a real Corey Taylor Slipknot thing with this, haven't you? Because no one knew what you looked like and now you've come out. That's right, yeah. As a human. Why would you hide that face?
Starting point is 00:54:37 Because I was a teacher and I'm like, I can't. I'll get fired. I swear. Quite a straightforward answer. I feel horribly disfigured. I also don't want to be looked at. I want to be able to say my opinions, but nobody knows what I look like. I watched The Dark Knight Rises the other day for the first time,
Starting point is 00:54:56 and my opinion of it has diminished quite substantially since first seeing it. Maybe because I didn't watch it in IMAX. But I was moved by, I think it's just a nice, the line where he pretty much says to Commissioner Gordon that he's Bruce Wayne in a very nice way. Yeah. You know, and that you put a. Put a coat on a kid and whatever.
Starting point is 00:55:15 Well, I'm Batman and you once put a coat on me or something like that, he says, and now I've got to fly away. But I'm not really dead. He says something like that and it really moved me. I found them a lot. Your coat's the cape now. I found all the Michael Caine stuff in that really, like those are the pivotal moments for me that were quite touching.
Starting point is 00:55:36 In particular, in The Dark Knight Rises where he's like, I'm back and I'm Batman and I'm loving it and I've got a new magic knee. And Alfred's like, I can't do this. Like, you'll kill yourself and I'm leaving. And he leaves. I thought that was really great. It's a Fernie Brinker or whatever it is. Fernie Brinker.
Starting point is 00:55:51 That movie for me, I saw that movie too many times. I've watched it too many times. I saw it eight times at the cinema, four times in IMAX, Broden. Well, that's how many millimetres? I couldn't even tell you. But so I've watched it to the point now where I just I only see the flaws
Starting point is 00:56:09 I only see the flaws I went too far because I agree I think it has, what it does emotionally is so poignant and again I felt like it broke new ground I felt like I was, I've never seen that scene that scene where Batman is like I'm fucking doing this and Alfred's like if you do this you're gonna die scene, that scene where Batman is like, I'm fucking doing this.
Starting point is 00:56:25 And Alfred's like, if you do this, you're going to die. And I don't want to watch that. So I'm leaving. Like, that's so, that's huge. No comic book movie had gone there before, you know. Because you think he'd come back at the end and be like, I'll fix your back. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:37 He literally doesn't come back. Yeah. But then, like, the fact that, like, Batman tries to fight Bane and then Bane beats him and breaks his back. Then Batman goes, lies down for a little bit and then comes back and then just fights him again and wins. Yeah. It's like, come on, guys.
Starting point is 00:56:53 There's even that line, he's like, if you come back to die, he's like, I've come back to stop you. It's like you had a long time to think of a better thing to say. Or just say nothing. Just start hitting him. But, like, shouldn't he, he like use his brain a bit more isn't that the thing like he tried to fight him
Starting point is 00:57:07 with Braun he couldn't I feel like the lesson should have been alright I gotta be smarter I gotta get a gun I gotta shoot him in the head he got really good at jumping
Starting point is 00:57:15 so maybe he had to defeat Bane by jumping over ledges like the hole taught him to jump over ledges just something not just I'm gonna punch you again or jump on his head
Starting point is 00:57:24 and then he turns into a smaller, smaller man. And then one more time and you got him, I reckon. Yeah, because the revelation kind of was, I'll hit him in that mask that he wears. It's like, you're Batman. That's the first thing you should have done. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:36 That's the face. That's where you punch anyone. And it's pretty obvious those are some valves going into him. He's not just wearing it for aesthetics. Yeah, that's right. Come on, Bruce. Yeah, it was pre-COVID, so, you know. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:57:47 Absolutely. My most emotional moment in that trilogy is the point in the start of The Dark Knight where there's the bank heist and you see William Fichtner, he's the bank manager, he's got the shotgun and he fires and he's like, you and your friends are dead. And I'm like, oh, they're all friends. Even mud bosses.
Starting point is 00:58:05 I thought you were excited for that character's arc. I think for me, like, the death of Heath Ledger makes that movie. Because he's not a sad character. He's horrible. Like, it's not a moment where he's like, I only do this because nobody likes my smile or whatever. You don't get any closure on where he's from. But everything else surrounding that movie is like, this is a great performance and he's 27 and we'll never see this again.
Starting point is 00:58:28 Yeah, 100%. I remember watching it the first time and the first scene at the gangland meeting is just so outstanding. That's incredible. But then also when he's hanging upside down at the end, you know that it's wrapping up and he's arcs ending and this is his final thing. It is properly moving.
Starting point is 00:58:45 Yeah. You're absolutely right. And people will write in and say he was in a different movie afterwards, but who cares? Imaginarium of Dr Parnassus, yes, which is a bad film. I bet it's not a good one. Not a good one. I haven't seen it.
Starting point is 00:58:54 Terry Gilliam, he's just, he doesn't, have you seen Don Quixote? Have you seen his Don Quixote movie? I haven't. No, is it good? It's a fucking mess, mate. It's such a mess. We talked about how the road to making that movie because it took like 30 years. Yeah, and he just should have stopped.
Starting point is 00:59:08 Oh, no. It's his thing. He seems to just be constantly, I don't want to say cursed, but there seems to be something with Terry Gilliam. Yeah. We hate the movie Brazil, don't we? I don't like the movie Brazil. I hate it.
Starting point is 00:59:19 I tapped out at Brazil. Yeah, he's just like I really appreciate what he's going for, but I feel like he needs, he's like Darren Aronofsky for me, he needs just a real good script. You give him a good script and he'll do a great visual job, you know, but when he's making it up as he goes and writing it himself. I like The Adventures of Baron Munchausen, but I think that's just because it's just a weird concept.
Starting point is 00:59:41 It's like a. Yeah, right. But the movie itself is like Brazil. I didn't like Brazil. It's a bad movie. Would you guys see concept. It's like a – Yeah, right. But the movie itself is like Brazil. It's like Brazil. I didn't like Brazil. It's a bad movie. Would you guys see Darren Aron's Batman? You know who was going to be Batman?
Starting point is 00:59:50 He lives in a garage and he's Alfred. Oh, my God. Mark Maron's garage? Who's Mark Maron's garage? Who lives? It feels like Matt Reeves' could be close to that. Something to that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:00 Yeah. It might have been a step too far. Maybe that's probably why it didn't get made was because it was he was changing too much of the the fundamentals the foundations there's certain things that i think you've got to have at least for the moment until people are like so bored with batman or or it's been so successful that then you can do like an elseworlds thing but almost felt elseworlds yeah you know yeah absolutely yeah the batman superman movies and man of Steel,
Starting point is 01:00:25 did you guys feel anything in that? I know for me the Jonathan Kent scene with, we talked about this on Caravan of Garbage, it makes me just emotional just talking about it, where he's like, I just want to be your son, I don't want to be from another planet. He's like, you are my son, like, it doesn't matter. Like, I thought that's a really good saying.
Starting point is 01:00:40 Are there other moments in that when Batman's hitting Superman? That's definitely a father watching Batman for sure. Absolutely, yeah. My boy. My indestructible boy. Did you weep when he hurt his foot and then just sort of didn't run? Yeah, I did, yeah. Superman didn't come get him.
Starting point is 01:00:56 Why didn't he get him? We'll get messages from there like, well, he didn't want to get him because he would have revealed his... Okay. Yeah. He's really quick. He's really quick. He's really quick.
Starting point is 01:01:04 I think you got... He just really quick. He's really quick. He's really quick. I think you're the ones who said it. He just go and get the dog. Obviously there was time to get the dog and come back. That door would not have stopped him. He would have walked right through it. Anyway, whatever. It's done. Those movies, where do you stand on any of that?
Starting point is 01:01:19 Emotions or just in general? I can't explain to you why. I don't know why this happened, but I cried at the start of batman versus superman with the uh the buildings are falling down and batman's there and the and the and the little batman are where he's like lifting up and the bats and the like sort of dreamy batman secrets i don't know why but i was like again i think i think zach snyder is brilliant visually i really love his visual style and it might be a bit over the top and a bit dark or whatever,
Starting point is 01:01:46 but like there's Batman versus Superman I don't think is a great film all up, but it has incredible scenes that I love to revisit. I'd agree with that, yeah. And I don't know why, but I cried at the start of it. I was like, this is amazing. And then I look over to my cousin. My cousin was like, this is the worst shit I've ever seen. I was like, okay, I'll shut up.
Starting point is 01:02:10 Yeah, yeah, I think there's, I've heard this somewhere before. This is not mine, but Snyder will sacrifice scenes for moments. I think he does great moments, you know, and like he'll have really nice poignant moments in his film, but he'll sacrifice that for scenes and overall storytelling because a lot of his scenes are like, well, that's good and that had a great bit in it and that had a great visual moment, but that doesn't actually fit into like, you know,
Starting point is 01:02:34 trying to do the Death of Superman stuff, you know, just visually. You didn't feel anything with that when he sacrificed himself with the spear? I mean, a little bit. I was having just a fun little Justice League romp. I was having a fun Trinity romp, you know. I really liked the third act in that movie. I was just like, oh, this is a different movie. This is great.
Starting point is 01:02:52 We've just gone somewhere else now. Fantastic. This is mostly Auntie Donna. When we're not either on camera or on a podcast, it literally, at airports, it's literally just this. We talk about comic book movies so fucking much. Yeah, I'll bet your podcast, I mean, you delve into that stuff. Who's engaging the most reluctantly?
Starting point is 01:03:10 Sam, our head writer. The things he points out from these movies, it'd be worth when you talk to him on Caravan of Garb. The thing that jumps out to me he always talks about, he loves that a group. Is it Justice League? Is it Justice League? A graffiti artist writes on the statue,
Starting point is 01:03:28 false god. Like what graffiti artist... That's Batman versus Superman. I was thinking of a different... Who, what cool graffiti artist? False god. Like just the most heightened... It's just a group of graffiti artists all wearing berets
Starting point is 01:03:43 and one of them puts it on there and they're like, mmm, good. You've done very well here. I'm very keen to hear. He has a thing about Justice League where they're talking about how they're burying the mother boxes or they're getting rid of the mother boxes and it cuts to the humans and they're burying apparently one of our friends. I was at the cinema with him, I remember,
Starting point is 01:04:01 and I was sitting next to him and his partner and I was sitting with my partner. And they're showing you everyone hiding those boxes and then Sam just turns to his partner and just shows, they buried it like two inches deep in the ground. So he just with his hands. Yeah, he's like, how did they bury it this deep? This is the detail that he pulls them up on. It's very funny.
Starting point is 01:04:20 But then there's Max who none of us,, I would say 90% of the time, 90% of the time the majority of us will have a similar reaction to these movies and we've all got a similar taste in terms of what we like and we dislike. Max is a fucking wild card. I can never figure out whether he's going to like something or hate it and usually the things I love he hates. And so he engages with it a little reluctantly, but it's just he always has the opposite opinion most of the time.
Starting point is 01:04:51 And when he has like, because I'll watch something and I'll go, I like this, Max will fucking hate this, and then he'll come in the next day and be like, I really liked it. I'm like, I don't know you. I don't know you. I can't gauge you. That's how I feel about Mason now. Hello.
Starting point is 01:05:03 Of the Joker. I'm like, you've got to love Joker. And he's like, I don't like it. You don't like it because That's how I feel about Mason now. Hello. Of the Joker. I'm like, you've got to love Joker. And he's like, I don't love it. You don't like it because it's not very comic book-y, right? Yes. I was a little surprised how much you hated it. Like I thought you'd be like, well, I like this and I like the makeup. James, I do like this.
Starting point is 01:05:15 And sometimes I like that. But I didn't like the thing. Off the data that I've got from you now, the SNL sketch where they do a gritty movie of Oscar the Grouch, I feel like that's your favourite sketch ever. That would have to be. Off the data I've accrued. I mean, it's certainly the one good sketch they made that year.
Starting point is 01:05:33 So, I like that. It's good. It's a good sketch. Because that's like your opinion, isn't it? Like, as you can take, I think you said at the time, you can take, what's his name, the main guy from Too Fast. Oh, Dom Toretto, yeah. You do a gritty Dom Toretto and you'd have the same result, which is
Starting point is 01:05:46 a fair point. And I would like to see that, and I'm optioning you that for one. Oh my god, I'm so rich. I don't know who's got the money anymore. Look, I don't know what my tastes are anymore, and I don't I'm also so old that I don't care to justify it anymore. I'm not like, well, you know, as a fan
Starting point is 01:06:02 of cinema, I'm just like, no, I do like the second Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie. I liked it. I don't care what anybody said. I like Craig was there. They fought him on the top of the Technodrome, but I don't care that anybody gets dumb. That's worth bringing up.
Starting point is 01:06:17 That's what I love about you guys is how interesting your opinions are and how you take them with a grain of salt. So that's awesome. But I recently, Mark and I disagree on this. Oh, big time. Talking about Ninja Turtles is I have watched it. I watched it yesterday, actually. You're talking about the first?
Starting point is 01:06:32 The original Ninja Turtles. We watched it recently too, yeah. Did you? Yeah, we did a commentary. Oh, right, right, right. BigSandwich.co. I think it's a bad movie. Really?
Starting point is 01:06:40 What do you think? I love it. I still liked it. I adore it. Now I'm Mason. Welcome to the club, Broden, but not this club. You're out of this club. You're in a different club.
Starting point is 01:06:52 I think visually awesome. And I followed the actor who plays April O'Neil yesterday. Judith Ho. Yeah. She's doing great. Yeah. But like the storyline really bummed me out. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:07:04 Just like because it's sad or just like crap. Yeah. What, like, the storyline really bummed me out. Yeah, right. Just, like, because it's sad or just, like, crap? Yeah. What about things? Say your thing about it. You've got one thing to say. I don't remember. I can't be held accountable for the things I say. The thing that he said to me was he was like,
Starting point is 01:07:16 it's all going along fine, and then their master gets kidnapped and they don't know where he is, so they go to the country for a couple of days and they just hang out. That's what he hates about it. They do, and they don't care anymore he is, so they go to the country for a couple of days and they just hang out. That's what he hates about it. And they don't care anymore. That's right. They're not emotionally invested. But they think he's dead, don't they?
Starting point is 01:07:30 Because then when he has a vision, he's like, oh, Splinter's alive. So I think they were going, they didn't know he was there. But why would you just go to the country then? Because it was the hideout? Yeah, but they just chill. Like, go do something about it with your turtles. How about a suck this ass? And Raphael was, like, seriously injured.
Starting point is 01:07:47 He had to rehabilitate in a bath. They had to put him in a bath. It just got very, the importance of being earnest. They just retired to the countryside for a little bit. They just took summer in the country. And they have a dream vision with Splinter. What about that? That's cool.
Starting point is 01:08:02 I mean, it's not cool. It's not very cool. I still i still own that one thing i've held on to from my childhood is the turtle green vhs yeah we talked about that yeah the clamshell yeah i've got it man the pizza hut toys i love it and and it was so weird watching that movie because all my memories of that movie are from this like worn out vhs yeah so the movie is so dark right and so visually unappealing. But that's just how I've seen it. And then watching it like on Blu-ray now feels like a different movie for me.
Starting point is 01:08:33 It's very bizarre. I have a very odd reaction to seeing it. You watch it through a tinted window. Yeah, it's all cleaned up and shit. It's bizarre. Okay. A good movie, right? We all agree.
Starting point is 01:08:42 I love it. We all agree. I love how it looks. I'm not on board. love it. We all agree. I love how it looks. I'm not on board. We all think it's great. I love how it looks and I wish they'd do that more. Well, recently we didn't do news with you guys, but they did talk about the writer of that wants to make a sequel.
Starting point is 01:08:57 I mean, they did. They made a second one. It's not real. It's not the same thing. I can't get on with the secret of the ooze. I like it, but they're not the same. No. I only like it because I saw it then.
Starting point is 01:09:08 If I saw it now, I'd be like, where's Krang? That's what I'd yell. You'd wonder where Krang was. Exactly, yeah. I did wonder that a lot as a kid. I'm like, where's all the stuff? Where's Bebop and Rocksteady? Where's all the robots and stuff?
Starting point is 01:09:19 But, you know, it's different. That's sad. It's on my list to read the original. That's good. I really want to read the original, the comic series, because apparently it is very dark. Yeah, they're mostly the same, right, from memory, aren't they? The first volume.
Starting point is 01:09:33 I'll bring them to Stupid Old Studios. Really? Yeah. Oh, I would love that. You're very welcome. Do people know where you guys hang out? Yeah, you can Google. If you Google where we work on the Street View,
Starting point is 01:09:43 it's Mark and I and Sam out the window waving. But if you just Google Auntie Donna, the address for Stupid Old Studios comes up. Should we just continue giving more and more details about how you can Google the location? This is a dream come true. I love talking to you guys about comic books. I was just saying to James before we started, the podcast for me is usually this,
Starting point is 01:10:03 but I'm just yelling into the ether as I go for a walk or I'm at the gym or something. So it's been good to hear you listen to me this time. And it's probably the same for all your listeners. I feel like I'm doing, what's one of those things where you, what's it called, like a fan fiction? Omaze. Yeah, omaze.com.
Starting point is 01:10:17 Oh, right, yeah, yeah, yeah. We auctioned this off, yeah. We feel the same because your podcast is also great, add all your sketches and now your Netflix show. So, yeah. Thank you. Thank you. We'll just take a moment and recognize that we all love each other. You guys champion us all the time and I very much appreciate it.
Starting point is 01:10:32 We see it all the time in our comments, people coming and saying, here because of Sunday movies. We use too many of your clips in my videos. I should probably not do that as much. No, more. You can use them all. I give you full IP ownership. Even with the Netflix stuff?
Starting point is 01:10:47 Because I feel like- We'll give you B-roll. Okay. I'll send it. It'll be in your inbox. You can have my bank account details, my child, whatever you want. Stupid old studios, that's where you work. We'll take it.
Starting point is 01:10:58 Yeah. Harry Potter where Dumbledore dies. Oh, sad. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They're all kind of sad because he's an orphan and he's got his, I don't know, is that sad that his parents died? I don't give a shit. But I'll tell you that I went to Universal when we lived in L.A.
Starting point is 01:11:15 making this show. I went to Universal Studios four times, including the last day it was open because of COVID. You were down to the wire there. Yeah, I was with the hand sanitizer and going on everything. So I like Harry Potter world. Harry Potter world is great. And if Universal dies because of finance, then I will be sad.
Starting point is 01:11:33 Yeah, right. But it's not your fault because you did your best. You had hand sanitizer. You tried your best. You did what you could. What a shit show. I want to talk about About Time for a little bit if you guys don't mind. You guys seen About Time?
Starting point is 01:11:44 It's kind of pitched it's pitched as a love story. Like, Rachel McAdams is being tricked by this man who can time travel to love him and what it, you know what I mean? It starts like that. The classic love story. The classic love story. I was thinking of Kate and Leopold. Oh, right. We can talk about Kate and Leopold. No, no, I haven't seen either of these movies.
Starting point is 01:12:00 The thing about Ninja Turtles is that But it pivots into a story about father and son Which you mentioned before, Broden, that I love And that's what the movie is really about It's about letting go and your parents getting older James, do you want to cry? Yeah, a little bit
Starting point is 01:12:14 Do you want to cry? A little bit The British film, maybe, Nick, you've seen it And when did you last see your father? If you want to cry and you have an okay, even bad A relationship with your father. Have you met your father? How's your father?
Starting point is 01:12:28 Watch that movie. It just like hits on for a son and a father moment. It's who's in it? Colin Firth? King? Colin Firth. Yeah, Colin Firth. Kingsman.
Starting point is 01:12:40 It's just a nice British king. A lot of king ties. Yeah, that's a film that before I wept, I wept. What was that called, sorry? And When Did You Last See Your Father? That sounds like it's going to fuck you up just from the title. I want you all to watch it. 2007.
Starting point is 01:12:57 You just go into the cinema and it's your mum on the screen and she's like, and when did you last see your father? And then she just, 90 minutes of her just locked on you. Jim Broadbent, this has got a cast. I mean, you know, like a cast that I know. Britain does really good mid-level films where they fund them through the lottery and I think it's one of those and it's just a really beautiful and sad, sad movie.
Starting point is 01:13:20 By golly. That is sad. I assume. Yes, it is sad. Fault in Our Stars anyone got anything to say about that oh no that's I fucking laughed
Starting point is 01:13:29 and laughed at that movie I've heard people have different reactions oh I didn't like there's just a moment in that movie that just like killed me right
Starting point is 01:13:35 it's very obvious what's gonna happen in that movie if you haven't seen it it's like one girl's got cancer that's the fault in her stars
Starting point is 01:13:43 that's the fault in her stars another guy had cancer no fault in his stars. That's the fault in her stars. Another guy had cancer. No fault in his stars. Previous fault. Remission. Previous fault. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:49 But there's a moment. And I think it's like if you've had any experience with cancer, it'll get you. Yeah, right. But there's a moment in that movie where they go into Anne Frank's house. I do know this. They go into Anne Frank's house and it's very hard for her to get up the little ladder because she's got an oxygen tank and she's like, no, I want to do it.
Starting point is 01:14:08 And they get up there and the cancer boy is there as well, the cancer girl is there. And then they get up there. Is that their names? I think it might be, but I can't remember. What should we call our children? Working title is The Fault in Our Cancer. The Fault in Our Cancer. The Fault in Our Cancer.
Starting point is 01:14:25 You can cut this bit. But they get up the top. They get up the top and then they share their first kiss, right? In Anne Frank's. In Anne Frank's, like, addict, right? And it's like, okay. But then all the people who are also visiting Anne Frank's house on that day start applauding them.
Starting point is 01:14:43 And it's like, you don't know these people. You have no emotional investment in these two. You don't know how this has been difficult for them. They're us, the audience. They do a say by the bell. It's just so weird. They just start, they're like, this is awesome. Everyone at Anne Frank's house is like, this is awesome.
Starting point is 01:15:00 It's so disrespectful. It's so disrespectful. When I was in Amsterdam, I didn't go to Anne Frank's house because I was like, I feel weird going up there, let alone taking somebody up there and making out. Yeah, you're just having a little scooch. They should have just done it up a hill. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:15:15 There's beautiful parks and hills in Amsterdam. But I checked out there. When everyone started clapping, I was like, I'm not. I can't do this. I can just run through a few more. The Farewell, I wanted to say. What's The Farewell? Aquafina's The Farewell.
Starting point is 01:15:28 I've started that. It's one with her grandma's dying, but they're not telling her she's dying. Yeah, it's a China-America film. And I did this one. So that's a good one. That's a good one. Cool. Inside Out, it's about emotions and it's like you can be sad.
Starting point is 01:15:45 Nothing. Up, the start of Up. Oh, Up is brutal. That's what people remember, though, because there's a whole story about finding a bird in that movie. It just turns into an adventure, another romp. There's another romp in that. I think my emotional arc is just old men doing anything.
Starting point is 01:16:00 It's just like if you see – Now we have to keep it in, Mason. No, we're taking it out still. Just an old man by himself doing anything is inherently like oh yeah yeah yeah i'm a year away from that like eating soup alone yeah for sure yeah okay but that's the thing like as a man i do stuff by myself all the time and i'm just like i'm having a great time eating this sad yeah but that's the thing is people are watching you yeah crying. They are crying, yeah. That's right. The better dressed the old man is as well, the worse.
Starting point is 01:16:28 Oh, do you think so? You know, like if they've got a three piece nice brown suit on. If they have a bow tie. Yeah, if they've gone to the shops and they've put on a suit and you see a man at the shopping centre like that's... Is that because it's like that's their thing for the day? Yeah. That's their outing? Yeah, and they've put, you know the suggestion is
Starting point is 01:16:43 that no one cares about them but they're still putting in the effort and they have this opinion like see it's a creeper the thing i said earlier that's that's what you're looking at but i also but i also think there's an upper limit to that because if you saw like an old man and he had like like a cravat and a monocle and he's laughing maniacally no he's having a great time, actually. He's doing fine. That guy's got it figured out. Yeah, absolutely. Fucking, what have I got here?
Starting point is 01:17:10 Bambi, I guess. I don't know why I put that in. Bambi's the one, yeah. Edward Scissorhands at the end, he has to stay in. What does happen? Doesn't he get regular hands at the end? No, I haven't seen that for so long. Does he get regular hands?
Starting point is 01:17:23 No, because his father's like. Initially, he has regular hands. His father's like. Initially he has regular hands. His father's played by, he's a great. Vincent Price. Vincent Price, yeah. And he's like, I've made you these regular hands. But then he has a heart attack and he never gets his regular hands. And then he stays up in the house.
Starting point is 01:17:40 Then they find him and then he's a monster and he goes back. And Winona Ryder's in the end is like, I think he's still up there. And he is. He's still Edward Scissorhand and he hasn't aged. He's still up there because he's a monster and he goes back and Winona Ryder's in the end is like, I think he's still up there. And he is. He's still Edward Scissorhand and he hasn't aged. He's still up there because he's a robot or something. He was born with the Scissorhands. No, I think he gave him the Scissorhands because he was built. He's like a Frankenstein man, isn't he?
Starting point is 01:17:55 I can't remember. This is blowing my mind. It's Tim Burton being, this is me. That film is This Is Me. Oh, absolutely it is. Yeah, it's got the hair and everything. So Tim's up that hill. Yeah, he is, isn't he?
Starting point is 01:18:05 He's thinking, Sweeney Todd. All of his characters are just that. Like, the way he pitches, he's like, I saw the penguin, it's like a little... Penguin boy. I love that movie, but all his characters are just... They really are. No one loves me more.
Starting point is 01:18:22 And that's just him. That is just him. He went to fucking art school with like John Lasseter and like all these other like people who's a piece of shit. But like he was just obviously the one in the corner going, boo. That's how he pitched like two decades worth of movies. He just went into the money man in the meeting
Starting point is 01:18:37 and he was just like, okay, but boo. And they're like, all right, okay. And like towards the tail end he walks in and they just, they all like, they're like, yeah, boo, we get it. Just do the thing. Have you seen my little doodles I've done? Look how sad my little doodle characters are. What do you think the tipping point of that is where people are like,
Starting point is 01:18:56 you're fine, you're worth like $100 million. Big fish. Must have been big fish. Which is a father's connection with his son. I don't like that. To me I'm like, he's just lying. And he's making his son's life worse because he's telling these fantastical stories and his son goes and parrots them and they're like, you're an idiot.
Starting point is 01:19:12 You're a prick. Yeah. I yelled at the end and said, my dad's not a fish. That's what I said when I saw it. So I was not moved. I understand that. Titanic, you know, Rose and Jack and The Door. And you've never seen it. I've not seen Titanic. You've never seen Titanic? I've that. Titanic, you know, Rosenjack and The Door, and you've never seen it.
Starting point is 01:19:26 I've not seen Titanic. You've never seen Titanic. I've never seen Titanic, no. It's an investment of your time. Yeah, I remember I didn't see it at the cinema and then it came out on two DVDs and I'm like, well, that DVD you had to turn over, remember you had to turn over a DVD? And I'm like, it's not my bag really. I had the pleasure, Zach and I had the pleasure of seeing that film in 3D,
Starting point is 01:19:46 which is very funny to see a sad movie in the third dimension because it's like they're just having dialogue scenes that are like, you know, like the drawing scene, but they're like popping out. It's like, wow! It's just, it doesn't work. Tasteful dimensioning. Tasteful dimensioning. Tasteful dimensioning. Okay, cool.
Starting point is 01:20:06 That's what they should have called it. Because every scene is in 3D. No, the script says, no, they're popping out. Dan's camera was very clear. It was like, no, they'll be popping out. They'll be popping. And they've got to go boing, oing, oing. Yeah, I get it.
Starting point is 01:20:16 Yeah, yeah. Oh, look, we could talk about this all day, but we can't because you guys have to do a different thing. You know what is fun? What's fun? Our show is happy. It is a happy show that people can watch right now on Netflix. Everybody has Netflix and could watch it and leave it on for 12 months.
Starting point is 01:20:30 One of us does die. Oh, no. We do the Maud Flanders to keep people watching. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We jumped the shark on episode four. It wasn't going well. Do you mind if I read out some Patreon topic suggestions that people had? Oh, please.
Starting point is 01:20:45 A lot of questions about how do you make Netflix, and we've got a separate thing for that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. People check out. But Ryan Land said, there's a video of you guys performing for a group of children, and I have to know why that gig happened. Bad producers.
Starting point is 01:20:58 Okay. We did a show at Melbourne Comedy Festival, Nick. Hello. And we were told that you're going to be performing for 10 to 12-year-olds and it's going to be full. So don't talk down to the kids. Just do your show but take out the swear words. We got there.
Starting point is 01:21:15 It was about 24-year-olds, 24-year-olds. Oh, no. And it's online, Stand and Deliver, Auntie Donna it's called. You go online, you see me walk out, you can see the fear in my eyes. And then we also made the mistake. That's a whole other skill as well, like entertaining children. I'll just say one thing. Do go watch it, but popcorn, that's all.
Starting point is 01:21:35 I can't watch it. It's so difficult for me to watch. It's difficult because we went out there with the assumption of one thing and then it turned into something different very quickly. Broden essentially saved the set because at one point he turns on them. Yeah. And when Broden turns on them. Four-year-olds have had it too good for too long.
Starting point is 01:21:54 Then Zach and I cotton on and we all turn on them and then it gets a little more, it's like, okay. Kids love that. But up until that point we're just trying very hard to do a good job. And it's not worth it. And I hate watching that because I'm just watching. All I see in my face is a man drowning. And it's very difficult to watch.
Starting point is 01:22:14 I heard on a podcast you talked about how you bombed for really, really old people in Edinburgh maybe. And you didn't know what the crowd. Dartmouth. In Dartmouth. And afterwards they were like, that was really good. And you were like, you know they were just like, they didn't know what the crowd Dartmouth. In Dartmouth. And afterwards they were like that was really good and you were like you know they were just like they didn't get it. I couldn't leave
Starting point is 01:22:30 the change room because I knew that some of the audience members were out there waiting for us and I was struck by such anxiety because I was like that was the most full on show. It was like a four hour drive out of London. Worst gig of our life. Yeah it was next to Comedy in the Dark in Edinburgh.
Starting point is 01:22:45 Yes. Which was also, we got booed. We got booed. We were billed at this Dartmouth show. Poor management, poor booking. Not poor with money, just very bad. Okay. Very rich.
Starting point is 01:22:57 Monetarily. Financially. Doing great. We showed up and the show was called Summer Comedy with Aunty Donna. And so it was, oh, we're love to go see the show at the local. It was like this fishing town where, like, everyone's just must be a place where people go to retire. And maybe they're expecting Mrs. Brown's Boys.
Starting point is 01:23:15 Yeah, it's just like come for the, yeah, regular Sunday funny bits. And we could see people walking. We could see people going into the theatre from our change room and I saw it was 50% frames and i was like we are in very big trouble and that's what it was but you just but you just did it you're like we're fucking doing this i laughed the whole show yeah yeah we could barely get through the opening song because we were just like this is so funny because the other thing that happened was four, like, 20-year-old fans had caught a bus from, like, London or somewhere. So they're just, like, in their element.
Starting point is 01:23:50 And they were front row. Yeah. But they were just also aware of, like, not only were they watching and enjoying the show, but they were also aware of how we were reacting to the crowd we were playing. They were seeing two shows. Yeah. Incredible.
Starting point is 01:24:05 So I'll just quickly run through these. Robbie Mann says top three creative influences and why they all Red Dwarf. They don't have to be that. Red Dwarf's a running thing, isn't it? Yes, it is. It definitely is. I've never seen Red Dwarf. What's the thing you say now in, what are we reading? No. Westworld.
Starting point is 01:24:22 Goddamn Westworld. Do you guys have like Flight of Conchords you guys mentioned in this? Our three. Mark says Tim and Eric. I say Conan O'Brien. Zach says Sean McAuliffe and they're the rules. But also Simpsons and South Park. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:35 Seinfeld and Sad Dog episode. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cool. Rogan. Yeah, huge on Rogan. Yeah, love it. Nice, nice. Dave Cruzia says, what would three seasons of their Netflix show look like?
Starting point is 01:24:46 Do you know? Like, do you have an idea? We'd just get more and more confident, I think. Yeah, yeah. And more buff because you're supposed to get real strong. All we do are Always Sunny and we all get really big, cultivate some mass. That would be fun too.
Starting point is 01:24:58 Yeah, like I think it would be similar to what we're doing now, but it would probably get a little more in-jokey for the audience or like, you know, more callbacks and more ambitious ideas. I would say season one of Always Sunny to season two of three of Always Sunny would be my hope. Like where that show seems very firm and set, but then it really takes off into like I would love for that to be the case. Yeah, that'd be cool.
Starting point is 01:25:21 Yeah, yeah. And a new established like celebrity cast member yeah danny devito just danny devito would you be open to that to be like you gotta bring in some i don't know i can't get someone yeah yeah sure i know they were reluctant because they were like like if they're like billy crystals your dad or something i would love billy crystals all your dad yes i won't go into it but you'd be surprised at the amount of people we asked to be in this show who said no, and I'm definitely going back for season two and asking them again.
Starting point is 01:25:48 Terrific. I want to hear those names, please. We'll be on Big Sandwich maybe. Absolutely. Thomas Mitchell said, do you know that Jack Quaid was Dennis Quaid's son? Did you know that? Yeah. Because you know him.
Starting point is 01:25:56 He somehow came to a show of his own. He's just a big nerd fan, Jack. Big nerd fan. Yeah, and a fan of you guys as well. No, we make that up. We don't think he knows who we are. We just say it because he knows who you are. He has a sketch group as well called The Sasquatch.
Starting point is 01:26:11 And, yeah, they were just like – they were just doing internet sketches as well and they all happened to cross us. He's just a lovely, lovely nerd. Yeah, yeah. He's a nice guy. It's crazy. Like, Meg Ryan's your mum. I know, right?
Starting point is 01:26:22 Weird. Yeah. He knows, doesn't he? He's in our show as well at a point. And he's just the nicest guy. Jessica Lozoya said, their favourite movie or TV show during the pandemic? Or something that's keeping you alive? Watchmen.
Starting point is 01:26:35 I didn't have the chance to watch it until. Yeah, I watched that when it was coming out. And it was just, my God, it was so good. The Boys. I loved season two of The Boys. It was fucking fantastic. Mason, you as well? Yeah, I love so good. The Boys, I loved season two of The Boys. It was fucking fantastic. Mason, you as well? Yeah, I love all those things.
Starting point is 01:26:48 Okay, cool. Do you have a different answer, though? No. Okay, that's fine. This one is also for Mark. So Justin Murphy says, discuss why Naomi is a better gamer than Mark. She's smarter.
Starting point is 01:27:00 Okay, so that's what it comes down to. She's smarter and she's better at everything than me. Dexterity? Dexterity and just that. But I don't know if he's aware, but I won a crown in Fall Guys. Did you? Wow. Yeah, it was a whole thing.
Starting point is 01:27:11 I haven't won one yet. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. It took so long. It took so long. Did you run to the top of the hill and make the jump? That's the one that I ended up winning, yeah. It's always like a guy who's like, why is he that fast?
Starting point is 01:27:22 I know, I know. And I just got so good. like a guy who was like, why is he that fast? I know, I know. And I just got so good. I got so incredibly good at every single game except for like the four that you play at the end. Because you can't do them again and again. Exactly, because you don't do them as much.
Starting point is 01:27:34 And I ended up just getting lucky. I ended up getting so lucky with the four. It's like everyone else fucked up and I managed to get there first. It's a whole thing. Was it a Netflix show? Was it like you started up in like first game and you won the crown or was it like a 10-hour session of like? I did it over 10 streams and I think I clocked up around about 45
Starting point is 01:27:53 to 50 hours on the game before I could beat it. And you quit? And then as soon as I won the crown on stream, I then uninstalled the game immediately. Yeah, good call. I will never play that game again. Yeah. I will never play that game again. That's what I was going to do and then I just, I then uninstalled the game immediately. Yeah, good call. I will never play that game again. Yeah. I will never play that game again.
Starting point is 01:28:06 That's what I was going to do and then I just, I'm just old. I just can't. I don't have the time. And, Broden, I have a specific question for you. Conker and Paul Leslie say, ask Broden about airplanes and Broden's top aeroplanes. Because I was on Do Go On. Yes.
Starting point is 01:28:21 And I talked about planes. Extensively. That's what my YouTube algorithm has decided is all I want to hear is cockpit recordings of planes crashing. And I'm not a strong enough man to not click on that, even though Social Dilemma told me not to. So I'm just a line. There's some great planes out there.
Starting point is 01:28:40 Sure. There's some good planes. Do you love like a Cessna? You're liking something a little bit bigger? I'm obsessed with commercial airlines and the way that they handle their businesses and stuff like that. So now would be super interesting to you, right? Yeah, the relationship with Qatar and Australia and what that's doing for their business in
Starting point is 01:28:55 relation to- Which of the major airlines do you think will survive the pandemic? Emirates? Emirates is probably best poised. And all the other ones are going to do badly. The main thing that they're scared about is, and we've experienced it personally, but we all know how much we don't need to fly now.
Starting point is 01:29:13 We did a podcast two weeks ago with Ed Helms where we would have flown. It's really funny. Yeah, we would have flown to America to do it because, you know, to have him on the podcast, you know. You get a photo. We literally called him and did it and it was done and no one cared that it was a zoom like yeah and because you guys were like the quality the audio quality is bad you said that up top yeah it was fine yeah yeah yeah it
Starting point is 01:29:36 didn't matter so like i think every industry in the world knows this now that you don't need to fly places as much you don't need to go to the office. As much as you do, yeah. That's so great. My brother is just like, got to take trams though. Oh, trams are very important. You need to take. No, you need to take.
Starting point is 01:29:53 No, you need. Everybody needs to take trams every day, every day. No. No. No, no, no. Because they're not even in every major city. They should be. I think if you put a couple of trams in every major city,
Starting point is 01:30:04 people will be like, oh, I'm digging this. This is good. So they're scared about how long they're grounded for. They're genuinely worried about that. But they're more worried about that is people get it now. Yeah. You don't have to fly to Sydney every weekend or Monday. You could take a tram to Sydney.
Starting point is 01:30:20 We've got this. No, no, no. You could take a big tram. That's a train. They could fly How much work would you have to do Nick To learn how to fly a plane Like me personally What's the difference
Starting point is 01:30:32 You've got trams down But now you're moving on to aeronautical And you've got to remember there's different dimensions to fly I was going to say I'd have to add I'd have to add at least I'd have to add at least three additional axes to my movement controls, if not the fourth axe of time.
Starting point is 01:30:52 I'd have to add that as well. Because when you're landing a tram, is that similar? Does that work similar to landing a plane, do you think? I mean, it's tough. I mean, the hardest part of landing a tram and a plane is, well, the hardest part is landing. Yeah, right, right, right. Anybody can take off in a tram or a plane, do you think? I mean, it's tough. I mean, the hardest part of landing a tram and a plane is, well, the hardest part is landing. Yeah, right, right, right. Anybody can, you know, take off in a tram or a plane.
Starting point is 01:31:09 If a tram leaves the earth. Yes. Yes, yes, go on. Landing it would be horrible because a tram's not supposed to leave the earth. Is that true? I mean, they could, like, put up, like, a temporary, like what we call a temporary crossover and they could,
Starting point is 01:31:23 like, tilt it vertically, I imagine, like to like a 45-degree angle. I could probably land it on that. All right, Professor. Could you take how much work would it require for you to drive a monorail? I reckon I could do a monorail. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think the issue is we've got.
Starting point is 01:31:42 I was at outside. Here we go. That's the end of my joke. I loved it. It was a good joke. And I think ending on that good joke is a good place to end on this. Thank you for coming in. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:31:53 Thank you. I really appreciate all your support. I know you're doing a ton of these and you've recorded a bunch of stuff with us, which we really appreciate, don't we, Mason? Both of us appreciate it. I appreciate it more. People have been asking for you guys to come on. We've got some of you, so that's good.
Starting point is 01:32:08 You're about to speak to the wacky two now. We call them the wacky two. Yeah. Can't wait. That's going to be better too, isn't it? Yes. Cool. I'm excited.
Starting point is 01:32:16 Great. All right, do you know what it's time for, Mason? No, because I don't know when you're putting this segment in. This will be a bit of what we're reading will be the next segment. I'll send a sign for what we're reading. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Westworld. This will be a bit of the What We Reading will be the next segment. Also, that's not for What We Reading. We've got to read. What are we reading today?
Starting point is 01:32:31 We're in the What We Reading segment, aren't we? That's right, yeah. Have you read Trey Joker's? Yeah, I finished Trey Joker's. We can talk about Trey Joker's. Trio of Joker's. Trio of Joker boys. Some hot bread and a trio of Joker's.
Starting point is 01:32:43 That's right. You know what I mean? What did you think, just briefly, and then spoilers? I thought it was fine. I also thought it was fine. It wasn't the mind-bending finale that I thought it was going to be. Remember when he found the button? Was that related to the joker?
Starting point is 01:32:57 No. No, that was a different event. It was a different event. Remember when he sat in that big chair and the chair was like, there's three jokers. Oh, yeah, that's right. Remember that? And he's like, it's blown my mind.
Starting point is 01:33:04 I thought it was only Uno Joker. Uno Joker. Why didn't he, why wasn't he follow-up questions on that chair? Good question. Why doesn't the chair allow follow-up questions? Maybe it does. He just didn't. Oh, I'm thinking the world's greatest detective, Batman.
Starting point is 01:33:18 You idiot. What an idiot. So, yeah, I also thought it was pretty okay. It's fine. But this is also DC Black Label, which is technically another, it's a different universe to the regular DC universe. So if they want to... Show dicks.
Starting point is 01:33:34 Yeah, that. But also, as we mentioned in the episode, but if they want to then say, well, the reason for there being three Jokers in the regular DC universe is different, then I guess they they could depending on how this is received, I guess. Yeah, absolutely. But spoilers for this, I guess.
Starting point is 01:33:53 But that's the thing. I feel it was something of an anticlimax. The reveal basically was there was one Joker originally and then he created two more Jokers and then they're like, us three Jokers, we're not good enough jokers and then they're like us three joke where one's the real one we're not good enough jokers to really challenge batman we should create an ultimate joker and so they just jokerized a bunch of people and it didn't work and then they're like to get um joe chill the man who killed batman's parents and like we'll jokerize him and then he'll
Starting point is 01:34:19 be the ultimate joker because he'll jokerize bat so good. He'll give him all the best jokes. He'll kill him. And doesn't Batman realise that we need each other or something? Yeah. You know what they think? Yeah, yeah. That's what he does. I guess I don't know what I expected, like what mind-blowing revelation
Starting point is 01:34:36 I expected out of this comic. But I didn't get it. I think it's very much status quo at the end as well, which we suspected might have been the case. Oh, there's more Jokers out there, whatever. But, yeah, there's no definitive like. I think it would have been more interesting to at least leave it like maybe it was eight guys.
Starting point is 01:34:58 Right, yeah. Because he is different. Like every time he shows up, depending on the artist and the era and whatever, he's different. It's the same as Batman is different, which means maybe there's, I'm never going to get three Batmans. Trio of Batmans. Trio of Batmans, yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:11 Who would make the ultimate Batman against the Joker? Who does the Joker hate? A big vat of poison? Just a big bat cow? Just a guy on the internet who's like, oh, I'm not funny actually. No, no. Liked your earlier stuff better, but I think, you know. A bit on the nose.
Starting point is 01:35:28 You've gone a bit political. Oh, yeah, we don't like that, do we? A bit political this week, wasn't it? It was a little bit political. The whole world got a bit political, didn't it? It did. It certainly did. I say keep the politics out of my world, out of my planet Earth.
Starting point is 01:35:40 I agree with you. If you absolutely wouldn't mind. I'm sick to death of people talking about politics when I'm just trying to Scroll Twitter endlessly. Oh, my God, until I die. That'd be great. That's it. Yeah, three jokes.
Starting point is 01:35:51 There were some rumors this week, speaking of comic books, there were some rumors this week that DC are planning just on dumping their shared continuity just generally. What does that mean? Like they're just going to be like, if you want to pick up an issue of Batman, it's Batman. He's going to be fighting some guys and solving some crimes, but it's not connected to anything else.
Starting point is 01:36:10 It's like, it's going to be like the movies. Okay. That's the rumor anyway. And it's because DC was going to do, they were, they have one event happening currently and they were going to like lead it into an event soon where we go into the future of the DC universe.
Starting point is 01:36:25 And they were going to be connected. Oh, they were going to do. Future state. Yeah, yeah. But now it's not connected anymore. They're like, these two things are no longer connected. And people are like, well, that means the whole multiverse is doomed. Wasn't there 5G as well?
Starting point is 01:36:38 It was going to be 5G. 5G they got rid of. Yeah, that was in the great big firing where they fired everybody and restructured everything. It's a real nightmare over there, I think. Exactly. So yeah, there you bloody go, isn't it? Yeah. I'm just looking if there's more news. I feel like we're on Newslight this week.
Starting point is 01:36:56 That's right, we can put it somewhere. Have you been reading or watching anything else? Yeah, man. But I'm talking about Unsuggestable, my other podcast. Oh my god. I'm going to talk about Queen's Gambit this week. I don't know what that is. It's about chess and taking drugs. Oh, and it's a lady who's a chess prodigy? Yeah, I really liked it. Okay, all right.
Starting point is 01:37:09 Have you seen any episodes of Truthseekers? What's, oh, no, we've been recommended it. I watched the first couple of episodes. I enjoy it. I've heard very mixed things. Okay. Admittedly, people I know on Twitter are like, this isn't very good, and I'm like, I don't trust your judgment.
Starting point is 01:37:24 Oh. I quite enjoyed it. So it's Simon Pegg and Nick Frost who wrote it and are both in it, although Nick Frost is sort of the default main character and Simon Pegg is sort of an off-sider with a terrible wig on. Because he's doing movies? I would say that's probably it, yeah. It's pretty good.
Starting point is 01:37:42 It's like if you've seen the trailers, Nick Frost is like a TV cable installer who also has a YouTube channel where he investigates spooky things that aren't particularly spooky. But this time maybe he's bitten off more than he can chew because of actual spooky things. I do love spooky stuff. But I also like low-key, low-budget, real spooky stuff. It's like I went down a rabbit hole of, I think we talked about this, the Haunted Bookstore in Melbourne, which closed last year actually,
Starting point is 01:38:06 pre-pandemic. The guy who runs it looks like Professor Snape and he's all like tarot cards and shit. And I'm like, I don't believe in any of this, but I will sit and watch a video. Yeah, for sure. Somebody earnestly gets into like tarot cards and reading people and whatever and ghosts and shit.
Starting point is 01:38:20 Yeah. Fuck yeah, I'm there. But the other thing I want to watch, which is just out, Moonbase 8. What's that? It stars Fred Armiston, Tim Heidecker, and John C. Reilly, and it's three astronauts in the desert doing a training exercise, but they all seem to turn on each other or something. Huh.
Starting point is 01:38:35 It's live action. Yes. Huh, there you go. So, yeah, that's Showtime overseas. But, yeah, I haven't read any reviews of it, but I think it just came out the day of recording this. It'sred armisen yeah john c reilly tim heidecker that's a that's a that's an all-star bumper cast it is i've been watching too much auntie donna yeah that's uh that's an all-star cast of you know character actors and weirdos and yeah and
Starting point is 01:39:00 i know we just talked about the auntie donna show Yes. I hadn't seen it at the time of recording that. Yes. But I watched it really quickly just in between. I ran to the other room and I watched all six episodes. I fucking loved it. Great. Like it was so funny. I think people really like it.
Starting point is 01:39:16 I mean if you like their stuff, you'll like it. Yeah. If a recommendation would be I watched them like four and then two, I wish I spaced it out. Because it's so, first of all, it's so like joke dance. Yeah, yeah, right. That it's like you just shouldn't watch them in a row. And also now I can't, like I'll go back and watch them again,
Starting point is 01:39:34 but now I have watched them. The surprise is gone. Yeah. But it goes just so many directions and fourth wall breaking and fun guest stars and the characters that they do. And there's a South African skit, which I think I'll show you after this. They're doing South African accents, which is one of your favourites.
Starting point is 01:39:49 I think Auntie Donna's, for some people that I've shown Auntie Donna to, initially it's like, I don't know if I'll like this. And then like two days later they're like, I've watched everything I've ever done. Yeah, that's right. So I think it'll probably be like that. Exactly, yeah. Also, I started watching.
Starting point is 01:40:05 I've discovered a new show that I'm to watch when I'm not watching a show. Oh. It's Magnum P.I., the remake, the reboot series. Oh, that's got El Diablo guy in it, isn't it? I don't know who that is. The guy who played El Diablo in Suicide Squad. Yeah. Is that him?
Starting point is 01:40:19 I think so. There you go. I might be wrong. I'm going to look it up. You didn't recognize him because he was painted in skulls. Right, exactly, yeah. He is, yep, that's right. I like going to look it up. You didn't recognize him because he was painted in skulls. Right, exactly, yeah. He is, yep, that's right. I like him.
Starting point is 01:40:28 It's a fun show. It's like it's very, I know when I was a kid I really liked, I wanted to be a detective or a PI because of old Magnum PI. Yeah. And it's pretty fun. Exactly. It's kind of dumb, but, you know, it's very much in the style of. Does it feel like that Hawaii Five-0
Starting point is 01:40:46 kind of remake? It's in the same universe. What? There's a crossover. One of the detectives from Hawaii Five-0 is in the first episode, James. It's in the same universe. First of all, let me just say what, as in Hawaii Five-0 still on? I don't know. But see, the thing is with Magnum is that I thought that they'd
Starting point is 01:41:01 released, they'd made a pilot a couple of years ago and it never got picked up. Oh, yeah. But it's been going for two years. Like that Lethal Weapons series. That's right. They got rid of Riggs but it's maybe still going.
Starting point is 01:41:12 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And it's also in the same universe as the MacGyver reboot. Oh, that's a bad environment. Except the difference here is in the MacGyver reboot, you know how everybody loved MacGyver? Yeah. They're like, oh, my God, every character's like,
Starting point is 01:41:25 oh, I'm in love with MacGyver. He's the best and he's so skilled. In this, everybody's like, Magnum, why do you suck so bad? He's such a weird moocher. Why don't you hang out at this guy's house? Get a real job, you son of a bitch. Does he have a cool Ferrari or whatever Magnum's supposed to drive? Is it from the 80s, though?
Starting point is 01:41:40 Well, here's the thing. I think in the first episode, he does drive the old Ferrari from the original series. Yeah. But it does get hit by a truck and then it falls down a cliff and then it explodes. And now he just drives a regular Ferrari, so. Just a regular, did he have an insurance payout, did he? No, well, they're not his Ferraris.
Starting point is 01:41:58 I don't know any amount of insurance payout. So he's a private investigator. Yep. But also he's a security consultant for this really rich author in Hawaii. So he lives on private investigator, but also he's a security consultant for this really rich author in Hawaii, so he lives on the guy's property. And he also uses all the rich guy's stuff because he's never around. Oh, okay. So he uses all his Ferraris and stuff and destroys them.
Starting point is 01:42:16 And that's the Tom Selleck guy. Yes, but also this guy. Also this guy. Same premise. Gotcha, cool. All right, so don't watch MacGyver is what you're saying. Don't watch MacGyver. Watch MacGyver.
Starting point is 01:42:24 It's pretty fun. I did. I watched the pilot and I hated it. MacGyver, is what you're saying. Don't watch MacGyver. Watch Magnum. It's pretty fun. I did. I watched the pilot and I hated it. MacGyver. Yeah. Because I made you watch it. You made me watch it. I was so mad. And I was so mad because he was so thoroughly unprepared. Yes. Like he's just like I'll probably find a storeroom filled with batteries
Starting point is 01:42:38 and wires. Just bring anything. Yeah, just literally anything. Yeah. And he was so thoroughly unprepared to be likeable also. But everybody said he was likeable. But, yeah, this version of Magnum, he's got the same two sidekicks. I think he had a pocket knife or whatever. Yeah, he had one pocket. He's got the same sidekicks.
Starting point is 01:42:55 I think some of the storylines are kind of the same. He's got the same, like, odd couple sidekick who doesn't like him, but they eventually become, you know, they get better at working together. Except this time it's a lady, not a man. Excuse me. Yeah, that's right. You might've hit your head during that show. No, no.
Starting point is 01:43:10 I maintain I have not hit my head. My goodness. It's pretty progressive. Let me tell you. That's wild. That's right. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, it's kind of fun and dumb.
Starting point is 01:43:18 And they're driving around in Hawaii with, oh, and at one point he, there's a flashback where he considers having the mustache, but then he's like, nah, and he shaves it off. Very good. Okay, quick follow-up question, last question. Yes. Is the original Hawaii Five-0 in the same universe as the original Magnum PI universe? No, no.
Starting point is 01:43:34 I'm learning a lot. Yeah. Well, the original Hawaii Five-0 was in the 60s, I think. Oh, okay, yeah, right. I mean, maybe. Oh, yeah, because it's got that swinging 60s surfer tune. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, there you go. That's right. I remember watching maybe. Oh, yeah, because it's got that swinging 60s surfer tune. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, there you go.
Starting point is 01:43:46 That's right. I remember watching the first episode of that when it came out in 2010 and being like, all right. And then I, like, didn't watch it again. Sure, yeah. But I was like, this is all right. I think it's got some of the people from Lost because it's in Hawaii. That's the perfect, you know, combo of –
Starting point is 01:44:01 and that's the problem with a show you have to watch when you're not watching a show is they just speed by because you're doing everything else. Yeah, exactly. You're like doing the washing up or like the laundry or whatever. It's the burn notice effect. Yeah. I tried to find that on like streaming this week.
Starting point is 01:44:13 I couldn't find it. Are we going to do our burn notice episode on Big Sandwich? By again, find all my old DVDs of it? Probably not. We're going to have to do, we're going to have to do anything. Yes. We're going to have to do an episode of our regular show. We got this covered, covered. So that'll be up by the time now if you want to sign up at bigsandwich.co. Yes. We're going to have to do an episode of our regular show,
Starting point is 01:44:26 We Got This Covet Covet. So that will be up by the time now if you want to sign up at bigsandwich.co. Nice. And next week will be a comic book thing, but we don't know what it is yet because we definitely haven't thought about it enough. But it will be there. Yeah. Haven't we talked about it?
Starting point is 01:44:38 Oh, yeah, we have talked about it. Should we tell people what it is? Yeah. Unless people have any objections because last time we did the extraordinarily long and complicated Crisis on Infinite Earths for DC, Unless people have any objections. Because last time we did the extraordinarily long and complicated Crisis on Infinite Earths for DC, James is narrowing his eyes in disgust and dismay and anger at me because he was forced to read two issues of that or something.
Starting point is 01:44:54 It was so dense, Mason. It was like reading 100 Bibles. It was fucking crazy. It really is, right? It really is. That is the perfect metaphor you've hit upon there. That is very true. So this time around we're going to do the Marvel version,
Starting point is 01:45:08 which came out basically the same time in the 80s, which was the original Secret Wars. You've seen the page where he's in the black suit. He's like, what's going on? I think we've already done the cover for that. So that's covered, obviously. That's right. But the only issue I think I've ever read of that,
Starting point is 01:45:23 and it's 12 issues like the other one, but it was the one where Spider-Man does get his black suit. So I'm excited to read that. I suspect it is significantly less dense than Crisis on Infinite Earths because it's just people punching each other. Great, I think. We'll see. I bet it's bad for different reasons.
Starting point is 01:45:38 We'll find out though. I'm excited for you to find out. I'm excited for you to shut up. I know, but I won't. I never will. Well, we have to record it. That's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:47 Okay. Yeah, let's do that. What's the next segment of the show? The next segment is the letters segment. My favourite segment. Before we do letters, you have to... Wait, no, wrong thing. What have you done, Mason?
Starting point is 01:45:54 I don't know. You've broken the flow of the show. Oh, no, yep. Okay, no, no, no. We need to get the flow back. Don't panic, James. You've got that panicked look in your eyes. Here we go.
Starting point is 01:46:02 The classic one was... Letters, oh letters, we love you. Some letters, they're only a day away. I know they're here right now. We're going to do letters. Hey, man, letters. Yeah, letters are good, right? If you do want to reach the show, hashtag Weekly Planet Pod.
Starting point is 01:46:20 That's where I sit, lonely on Twitter, waiting for the tweets to roll in. Or you can send an abundance of emails to Mason. Oh, my God. Just a king's ransom of emails. At Gmail. Weekly Planet pod at gmail.com. Don't you agree, Mason? I absolutely do, yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:33 Do you want to go first or do you want me to go first? I've got a whole bunch of letters here. Okay, this is from 2K Broam. Hello. He says, I lied to a friend for you. Good. Hey, Mr. Sunday Moser Movies. I've been listening since you guys had one mic,
Starting point is 01:46:46 had terrible audio quality, and would sing before each episode. I mean, we still sing before each episode, but it's before we turn the microphones on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because the record labels came at us for such perfect renditions of songs. That's right. We mostly just do Walk Like a Man. We do that every week.
Starting point is 01:47:02 Oh, yeah. Sometimes we do it one more way, but it's mostly Walk Like a Man. We do that every week. Oh, yeah. Sometimes we do it more, but it's mostly Walk Like a Man. Yeah, two classics, you know? So he says, my best bud is the biggest Pink Floyd fan in the world. He even named his son Floyd. I've been trying to get him to listen to the pod for years, and he reluctantly gave you guys a chance when I told him the co-host was none other than Nick Mason, the one and only drummer
Starting point is 01:47:21 of the legendary rock band Pink Floyd. He very, very quickly saw through our deception, but he has stayed a listener, so we got him. Got him. Thanks for all the content. Beej from Michigan. P.S., can I be the stereotypical Filipino male nurse of the pod? Yes, you can. Is that a stereotype?
Starting point is 01:47:36 I think so. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That old chestnut. You see it in movies often. You do. That's right. Maybe in Miami. You might see it in Miami, won't you?
Starting point is 01:47:44 Maybe in a Bad Boys. He'll be there. He might be in Bad Boys. Maybe in Miami. Maybe in a Bad Boys. He'll be there. He's not in Bad Boys. He's a big no-nonsense nurse. That's right. And they're like, you? A nurse? And he's like, I'm a nurse. I'm a nurse, come on. I'm allowed to be a nurse. Thank you for tricking somebody.
Starting point is 01:47:58 They could have just said that your parents were big fans of Pink Floyd and we're big fans. But I like the commitment to that obvious lie. I think so too. Appreciate it. You'd be like, so the drummer from Pink Floyd, a band that I love and know everything about,
Starting point is 01:48:17 has committed to almost 400 episodes of a podcast about stuff that he has nothing to do with. With terrible audio quality. Yeah. Why did he start with one microphone? You got him. It doesn't matter. Yeah, that's right. I've got a tweet here from Dylan Hutton says, hey boys! Oh hey! Hashtag WikiplanetPod. What excites you more? A potential Spider-Verse movie or a Bat-Verse movie happening in the Flash film? Let me know or don't.
Starting point is 01:48:40 Thanks. That's Dylan from Wellington. At this point probably Bat-Verse but I can go back and forth. It's only because we have seen a Spider-Verse movie. Yes. And that has been good fun. It's a very good movie. But that's the thing. Spider-Man has started filming.
Starting point is 01:48:54 I don't know if you saw. Oh, yeah. I saw the first maybe a stunt double shot. Atlanta. Yeah. Spider-Man's wearing a mask and a mask. It's crazy stuff. It's crazy stuff.
Starting point is 01:49:03 But, I mean, you know, we saw, you know, so many wild alternate Spider-Man and all that's crazy stuff. But I mean, you know, we saw so many wild alternate Spider-Men and all that sort of stuff. I'm like, that's a lot of fun. And the thrill will return for a sequel, I assume, but the thrill is kind of like, it's waned a little bit. But the difference here is the thrill is of
Starting point is 01:49:20 seeing Spider-Men that you know. It's not like, who can we bring in that's insane? It's like, who's different? I mean, not who knows different, but what do we love? Yes. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. I think I also, when we did a video on it, I talked about how is it too soon?
Starting point is 01:49:33 And like if you look at the number of years, it's not too soon. Like it's been five, six years since he was cast, the first Spider-Man. Yeah, right. Tobey Maguire finished in 2007. Do you know what I mean? Oh, we're talking, sorry. I thought we were talking about a Spider-Verse sequel. Oh, really?
Starting point is 01:49:51 Yeah. Oh, he says a potential live-action Spider-Verse. Oh, sorry. Yeah, yeah, sorry. We're talking about different things. We're talking about different things. In that case, what? I would still see a Spider-Verse sequel over either of those.
Starting point is 01:50:03 Yeah, well, that's, I mean, that's, yeah. It's a good movie. You know, well, that's the thing. But you love Batman. You love Michael Keaton's Batman. Yeah, I know I do love Michael Keaton's Batman. But you hate Ezra Miller. So what do you do, Mason?
Starting point is 01:50:13 Right? But also I think, yeah, because, but also it's meant to be a Flash movie. It's not going to be exclusively Batman's team. No, it's going to be all sorts of dimensional shenanigans. And I feel like the various Spider-Mans are thematically different enough or like their demeanors are different enough that that would be a good, fun contrast if they all team up. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:50:31 Whereas Batman, just mostly angsty. So maybe it is Spider-Man. I think Michael Keaton will inject a bit of fun in it, though, won't he? Yeah. Because when he does get to be Batman in those movies and Bruce Wayne, you see he's got a bloody spark in him, mate. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There'll be a let's get nuts joke for sure.
Starting point is 01:50:49 No, there will be. Flash will maybe be eating some nuts. He's like, where did you get those? And he goes, oh, let's get nuts. There'll be a let's get brunched joke. Oh, please. And he has to, because he's figured out what brunch is. He's figured it out.
Starting point is 01:51:01 He's figured it out. Okay. Unless that's no longer in continuity. I know we talked about it. Unless it's no longer in continuity. I know we talked about it. Unless it's no longer in continuity because the Snyder version doesn't have that in it. But, like, do you not know what brunch is? Like, what do you mean?
Starting point is 01:51:15 It would be like going vegetarians. It's like you don't get that at this point? Yeah. You don't know what that is? Maybe he calls it lekfest. He might be, yeah, one of those guys. Very funny. Very Big Bang Theory.
Starting point is 01:51:28 Isn't it just? What have you got in the next thing? Let's see. This is from Audrey. She says, dear James and Maceo, I started listening to the pod every night to fall asleep about two and a half years ago. Since then, everyone who knows me well knows you as my Australians. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:42 Who knew an Australian accent was so soothing? Not me. Or boring. That's my bad at Australians. Yeah. Who knew an Australian accent was so soothing? I may. Or boring. That's my bad at that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A few weeks ago, I showed my friend Olivia one of the inside jokes, things I mumble from the podcast, and now we greet each other with Vegas, baby. I think we took that from Entourage.
Starting point is 01:51:58 No, I think we invented that. We invented it, and then Entourage stole it from us. Oh, okay, cool. You know what I was thinking the other day? I'm sorry to cut. No, I'll tell you after the letter. Yes. Yeah, it's fine.
Starting point is 01:52:05 This week has been a whirlwind as I'm in the US. Election nightmare, little sleep, another lockdown approaching. But I did get a job finally after graduating six months ago, and it only fits that the woman in my training video was Australian. Yeah. Thanks for helping me get the sleep. And I fell asleep instantly and was fired. That's right.
Starting point is 01:52:19 You had a good run, though, didn't you? Yeah, that's all right. If you can get that job, you can get any job in this economy. It's a Pavlovian response. Well, that's right, exactly. What I was going to say, thank you, by the way. That's very Australian. Audrey?
Starting point is 01:52:29 A Pavlovian response is very Australian. Thank you. When somebody says you're Pavlova. Or New Zealand. We'll get New Zealand to saying that they invented it. Maybe they did. I don't know. But it's ours.
Starting point is 01:52:37 Like Sam Neill, he's ours. That's right. But I was thinking the other day, I was like, fuck, I want another Entourage movie. Yeah, me too. I want to make fun of Entourage again, Mason. Yeah, I know. Can't I just? Okay, but I would even watch an Entourage movie that's on Zoom.
Starting point is 01:52:52 That's what I'm talking about. Anything. Yeah, right. What's Vinny Chase doing? Yeah, yeah. They're in lockdown together in a mansion. I don't care. Ah, yeah, they are.
Starting point is 01:52:59 Whatever. They've got Ducatis and they're turtles. I don't know. They're all billionaires. I don't know. They've got Ducatis. They've got Btles. I don't know. They're all Billy. I don't know. They've got Ducatis. They've got Bacardi.
Starting point is 01:53:07 They've got whatever they want, you know. And I reckon probably Johnny Drama, he's got the Rona. Yeah, he's got the Rona. And they put him in a bubble. He's in the garage. Yeah, yeah. They've sealed off the garage with plastic wrap. And he's like, hey, guys, would you let me in the mansion? And they're like, no, Johnny Drama.
Starting point is 01:53:21 You got the Rona. But then at the end, Turtle also has the Rona. Whoa. That's how it would go, wouldn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Johnny probably got it because he went to meet a girl or whatever or something, wouldn't he? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:34 Because he's a real sleaze and they all are. You know what I mean, though? Just give me another entourage. I mean, it didn't make money and everyone hated it. Just give me another one. It didn't make any money. It didn't make this money. An entourage movie would be the balm that this nation
Starting point is 01:53:47 and this world needs, James. Just a soothing balm on our sore spots, you know. That would bring the world together. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Because I don't want to go back and watch Entourage. No, I mean, that's, yeah. 33% Rotten Tomatoes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:03 Because it needs to be bigger at this point. Like watching some old episodes of Entourage, it, I mean that's, yeah. 33% Rotten Tomatoes, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it needs to be bigger at this point. Like watching some old episodes of Entourage, it'd be fine. Jerry Ferrara said last year, said sequel. He's Turtle, right? Yeah, maybe. Could be any of them. It's true. No, he couldn't be E.
Starting point is 01:54:18 No, he couldn't. E is definitely not a Jerry Ferrara. That's true. I'm just looking for a connection. Oh, man, come on. I feel like in this age of streaming, if Dexter's coming back. That's true. I'm just looking for a connection. Oh, man, come on. I feel like in this age of streaming, if Dexter's coming back. That's true. The Entourage boys could, couldn't they?
Starting point is 01:54:30 Anyway. They have to be more famous than ever, inexplicably. They're the richest men in Hollywood all of a sudden. That's right, yeah. I love how their position is like this DiCaprio type. It's good stuff. It is, isn't it? Anyway, I got another email.
Starting point is 01:54:46 I'm ready. A tweet, sorry. Hashtag with the planet pod. It's from Dylan, another Dylan. It says, at 1.15 of the Lego Star Wars Holiday Special. So you may have seen this trailer. It's a time-traveling romp. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:57 A new Star Wars Holiday Special. Ray is taking all sorts of adventures through time with Darth Vader and meeting Luke Skywalker and whatever. It shows that people approved inusing the Star Wars universe, can read. So I think we see the Emperor reading something off a tablet. Yeah, it's a world's best Emperor or something. Yeah. But these are clearly non-canonical.
Starting point is 01:55:18 That's very true, isn't it? Maybe in the Lego universe they can read. Yeah, that's true. But in the Rego Star Wars universe. Well, they have to read the instructions. That's right, exactly. To put together the Lego stuff. I'm just going to let the dog in.
Starting point is 01:55:27 Nice. Excuse me for one moment, folks. Excuse-a-moi. Here you go. Here you go. I don't think my dog likes anyone as much as she likes you. I feed her drugs. Off you go.
Starting point is 01:55:48 She's gone again. She's out. That was quick. Yeah, we've got to get that entourage back. I know. I know we weren't talking about that, but entourage. We'd moved on. Maybe an entourage mobile game, I'd take that.
Starting point is 01:55:59 Yeah. Maybe just some. Oh, is there an entourage video game? Maybe just some wag on the internet making an Entourage YouTube video where they put on different wigs and they pretend to be the various characters of Entourage. I would take that. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:56:13 That Sarah Cooper lady is out of a job now because she can't do any more impressions. That's right, yeah. Maybe she could be all the Entourage boys, you know? Is there an Entourage game? Surely not. This is digitized Johnny drama. Oh, my God, there really is. So like 2006.
Starting point is 01:56:30 There's also a picture of Borat. Not modern Borat, I should point out. Oh, wow. With his modern ideas. Do you watch Borat? No, I still haven't watched it. You haven't watched it? No, I'll get to it.
Starting point is 01:56:40 Yeah. Oh, yeah. Cool. James, here's one more letter. This is from Sarah. Hello. Hello, James and Mason. My name is Sarah here's one more letter. This is from Sarah. Hello. Hello, James and Mason. My name is Sarah, and I'm a huge fan all the way from California.
Starting point is 01:56:49 I know you usually get, you two get emails from others saying how something bad happened while listening to the pod, but I wanted to share to you my good news. As you know, the 2020 election has been a whirlwind and very overwhelming, but I'm listening to the pod, older and newer episodes, to stay calm all week. So today I was listening to the week's episode when my mom comes barging into my room shouting Biden's just been announced as our new president. I know it may be a little political, but honestly, it's the first time I felt like I can finally breathe in a really long time as a woman of color who's a part of the LGBT community. So thank you both and Claire for helping me get through this really stressful time.
Starting point is 01:57:20 Couldn't have done it without you three. Hope you're all doing well. Be safe. That's great news. And look, we hate to get political, but yeah, I feel similar to that. Yeah. It's just nice. It is nice. Everybody take a week off. Everybody take a week off. Regardless of how you voted or what you just.
Starting point is 01:57:36 I know Biden's not great. Like, I know that. I know. But it's just like, I know. Look, we've got, there's going to be four more years of our lives. I know, but it's just like, I know. There's going to be four more years of our lives, and then four more years, and then four more years, regardless of what happens.
Starting point is 01:57:52 There'll be terrible things forever. Let's all take a week. I'm giving it to everybody in the world. Take a week, just sleep. Hit that snooze button, extra five minutes in the morning. I also call for unity, Mason. I call for a merging of ideas, both modern and... Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know.
Starting point is 01:58:10 Just be nice. Be kind, I guess. I know it's easy to either be angry or kind of rub stuff in people's faces. I'm very much about that. Don't get me wrong. I am spite through and through. Mason knows that about me. I'm driven by it.
Starting point is 01:58:23 I am driven... Every time I have. I don't even want to do this podcast, but I lost a bet like several years ago and I have to do it because of spite. Change the spite. But yeah, I, you know, it's a, it's a difficult, it's a, it's a fucking, what a time. And I hate it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:38 Uh, yeah, I've got a, I've got one here from Brock. Um, if we're talking about lies, our parents told us whenever the ice cream, because you have to clarify, you mentioned how your parents told us, whenever the ice cream, because you, to clarify, you mentioned how your parents told you it was illegal to put a light on inside the car. That's right, when the car was moving, yeah. Yeah, yeah, so you'd go to jail. I don't know if they said it was jail.
Starting point is 01:58:56 They probably said punishable by a fine, and I would have been like, that means legal for rich people. Down with capitalism, I said. That's one thing I do. I'm liking moving towards zero carbon emissions. I know it could all be flipped around at any point and whatever, but the world, man, I want it to live. I want to live here.
Starting point is 01:59:14 Please. Wow, look at this bleeding heart level over here. But all right, continue. I want to hear about more. Brock said, whenever the ice cream truck drove by. And in the speech, he mentioned the LGBTQI plus community. It's inclusive. It's good.
Starting point is 01:59:28 Inclusiveness is good. That's right. Anyway, people feel seen and respected. I think that's really important, right? Because everybody's valid in their own way. That's right. Anyway, whenever an ice cream truck drove by. It's not the time for this.
Starting point is 01:59:43 It's time for people to tell us what weird lies their parents told us. That's right. So we can go, ooh, bad parenting. Exactly. Whenever an ice cream truck drove by playing songs, my mom told us that it was the music truck. I'll never forgive her. The music truck.
Starting point is 01:59:58 The crummy popsicles I missed out on because of this way. That's maybe not the most common version of that. I know a number of people who've said that their parents told them that when the ice cream truck went playing music, it meant it was out of ice cream. Why would they be playing it? I don't know, but I guess the ice cream truck is like a silent deadly shark when it's filled with ice cream.
Starting point is 02:00:22 You've got to track it down. But once it's out of ice cream, it plays that song to let everyone know i encourage any small business but uh they're always bad they're terrible no they're how dare you they are no i disagree if it's out of the tub they're genuine actually to be fair no actually i've had one ever and it was the worst ice cream i've ever had i've had many james it was it was like i was at a thing whatever it might have been a festival or i don't know. I was outdoors. And this is like five years ago.
Starting point is 02:00:48 But you were pinging off your head, James. I was not pinging off my head. I was sober as a judge. Okay. But I went up and I had- I've met a few bloody judges, though. You're not wrong. There was a list of like gelato flavors.
Starting point is 02:00:59 And I'm like, I'll have a lemon gelato. And he goes, it's rainbow. I'm like, what? And he canned me like it was like $8 and it was like a horrible, like dry ice cream kind with rainbow gelato. Gelati should not be rainbow. Do you know what I mean? They've got distinct sharp flavors that you don't mix together.
Starting point is 02:01:19 And I didn't finish it and it was terrible. Wait, so did he give you a little scoop of every flavor? No, it was in the one tub. Oh, that's wild. It was rainbow. I've never heard of that. I think you got yourself a rogue gelato man. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:30 They're all rogue, aren't they? I guess. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of them aren't in the Mr Whippy union. They're like, you know. Oh. Is that like a patented?
Starting point is 02:01:40 Mr Whippy? I don't know. I think ice cream vans existed before that was a real, like that was, you know, so they're all, at this point they're all, they're just, I mean what are you going to do to track them down? They're mobile, you know. They're mobile battle stations. They can go wherever they want.
Starting point is 02:01:56 And silent. Yeah, that's right. But traditionally, James, if you get a gelato, well, you can, in a good gelato van, you go, I'd like a rainbow gelato, please. And they give you a little scoop of each one and they put it all together and it's a bloody artistic work of art. I agree.
Starting point is 02:02:11 Yeah. This was not this. No, you don't want that. He was mad, too, when I asked him for a flavour. I'm like, was that, what are we, I'm sorry, I guess. Yeah, this guy was one day till retirement, I think, you know. He drove that into a river after that, I'm pretty sure. Or you get the one where they give you the soft serve
Starting point is 02:02:25 and they put the chocolate on it. Yeah, that's fine. Oh, my God, and the sprinkles. Look, I love like a food truck, but I want something, I think we're talking about, you're jazzing them up for the modern era. You know what I mean? You probably, when you put up the flap that people come and stand under it, they hang a little fern from it or something.
Starting point is 02:02:40 You know what I mean? Wow. Just a bit of flavour, a bit of colour. Do you know what I mean? I think, no, I don't think you're all that. I don't want a bit of ambience in my food truck, Mason. That's not what it's about. You get it and most of it melts on your hand as you're walking away
Starting point is 02:02:53 because the day's too hot. You're like, ah. But I'm talking for any food truck. Yeah. Getting a braised. No, the burger melts over your hand as you're walking away because the day's too hot. It's too hot.
Starting point is 02:03:01 It's too hot. No, I don't know. I think you should get more ice creams at more ice cream trucks if they ever become a thing again. Yeah, no, I won't. Yeah. Or if you ever find one where the music's not going because, I mean, obviously.
Starting point is 02:03:13 Jackpot. Yeah, that's right. Means there's still some ice cream left. That's right. All right, what's next, Mason? It's the end of the show. We've done the whole show, I think. That's right, that's the show.
Starting point is 02:03:20 Well, bring us home. Not like a real quick one primarily because we recorded a bunch of stuff earlier. No, no, we re-recorded it. Remember? Oh, man. This was a long episode. I agree. Anyway, thank you everybody so much for listening.
Starting point is 02:03:29 I hope everybody's doing all right. I hope everybody's going to have a nice, have a little sleep in. Just really luxuriate in it, you know, if you can. Yeah. And yeah, thanks for listening and subscribing, telling a friend, telling a lie to a friend. We definitely appreciate that. Tell a lie to a friend. Leaving a nice review.
Starting point is 02:03:46 Leaving a lie in a review. That's fine. You got one in a review, telling a lie to a friend. We definitely appreciate that. Tell a lie to a friend. Leaving a nice review, but leaving a lie in a review. That's fine. You got one in a review, James? It's five stars. This one's from Vanna Wock says, I like this new podcast. For only three episodes in, these guys seem to have already found their stride. It's impressive, really. Appreciate that. And this one is from Parker Jim Jam says, I shouldn't be listening to other podcasts.
Starting point is 02:04:01 Last week, you know, often people write in and they're like, I had a horrible accident. Oh, yeah. I was listening to a podcast. Last week, I decided not in and they're like, I had a horrible accident when I was listening to podcasts. Last week, I decided not to listen to the Weekly Planet on my drive to work, instead opting for the Joe Rogan experience. Needless to say,
Starting point is 02:04:12 this was a huge mistake as I ran into a mailbox. I've now decided that James and Nick keep me out of car accidents and save my life on a daily basis. Listen to the pod or else.
Starting point is 02:04:24 Good advice. Yeah, that is good advice. Listen to it or else. Or else. That's right. I mean, Joe Rogan's $100 million podcast, so. Yeah. Good thing they've increased the production value.
Starting point is 02:04:34 I don't think that's true at all. No, I think he just pocketed most of that money. What a win. Do you know what I mean? Like monetarily. Yeah, yeah. So it's not like when Alan gets a $100 million deal, because you've got to put a show and not pay people and be mean
Starting point is 02:04:44 or whatever happens on that set. But there's like four people that run that podcast. Do you know what I mean? Are they all getting $25 million each? Obviously not, but that's like pure profit. Do you know what I mean? If we got $100 million, we would change nothing. That's right.
Starting point is 02:04:58 Yeah. Yeah. Now, what we do is I think – look, if we get the $100 million, I reckon we put $20 million, we just put it like in a corner somewhere. We just stack it up in a corner. If you can find it, you can have it. Yeah, fair. Yeah. That's absolutely fair.
Starting point is 02:05:12 That's right. But we're going to fight you. Yeah, we'll fight you, obviously. Yeah, we'll fight for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're going to get it past us and Claire and the dog and your two kids and that weird neighbor that you have. Yeah, you know him.
Starting point is 02:05:25 I don't know. For another day, I'll tell that story. Yeah, nice. What's next? After that, it's just look if you want to get a hold of us, you can go to Weekly Planet Pod at Facebook, at Gmail, at Twitter, at Bandcamp. You can go to planetbroadcasting.com. You can look at all the podcasts on the Planet Broadcasting Networks,
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Starting point is 02:07:10 going out my butt every time no no it works better without the out my butt audio but it was definitely that when i see it but now this video will be up already by the time people are this but how's that for a thumbnail that i made that is graphic that is shit hot nice that's good stuff thank you and it shows emotion which people like in the thumbnail. They like emotion as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where was I? God, that's a good thumbnail.
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Starting point is 02:08:26 So let me just guess. So you've got your Napoli base, obviously. You've got your ham. You've got your cheese. You've got your pineapple. No. Obviously, you've got your egg. Yeah, egg.
Starting point is 02:08:34 And that's it. No, bacon. Ham and bacon. Didn't I say that? No. Sorry, apologies. Some sort of pineapple and egg pizza. You monster.
Starting point is 02:08:40 I'll do a pineapple egg pizza. Anyway, I put two slices of pizza on a plate and then I opened my fridge and I put it in the fridge, and I'm like, what now? Because I thought it was the microwave. So that's the kind of week I've been having. It's pretty good, right? That's nuts.
Starting point is 02:08:56 I'm like, where's the button to heat up the, oh, I put it in the fridge. Put it in the fridge, yeah, yeah. It's not going to do that. It's colder than ever. How was the pizza, though? Really good. Was it one of those, those like dirty Aussie pizzas? Yes.
Starting point is 02:09:06 You know, with like the crust is like crazy thick and you know what I mean? None of this gourmet nonsense. No. Yeah. Anything in between like super gourmet and like dirty. Old school pizza joint that's been there for 40 years. Anything in the middle, no thank you. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:09:18 I want like one of those. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Next week, maybe Tenet? Oh, maybe. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:09:24 It'll be a roll of the dice. Maybe New Mutants. Maybe it'll be a roll of the dice to see if both of us can get into a screening of a movie. Well, that's the other thing, isn't it? Exactly. But yeah, maybe. Yeah, maybe. Or another topic.
Starting point is 02:09:35 That's right. All right, guys. Thanks for watching. Grab that jimmy, guys. We will see you next week. Thanks for watching. All you pervs are out there. Yeah.
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