The Weekly Planet - 362 Wonder Woman For Christmas & The New Mutants (more like old mutants)

Episode Date: November 23, 2020

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Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday. With me, as always, is my co-host, Nick Mason. James, it's great to be here. I notice you haven't cracked your kombucha yet. I'm just saving it, Mason, because as you know, I'm running bloody ragged off my feet at the moment. I'm not sure. And when I need a boost in about a minute, I'm going to open it

and then I'm going to get into it. What is it going to give you, though? It's got a bit of caffeine in there, mate. It's going to give me what I need, a weird-tasting drink with caffeine in it. Incredible. Yeah. I'm one of those guys where I've got to drink me what I need, a weird tasting drink with caffeine in it. Incredible. Yeah. I'm one of those guys, like, I don't drink coffee,

but I more than make up for my caffeine intake by drinking weird sugar-free kombuchas and shit like that. Anyways, Mason, we're finally talking new mutants this week, but who gives a shit? Los nuevos mutantes. Exactly. More like los viejos mutantes. What's the difference? Old mutants.

Did you practice that? No. That's pretty good, man. What's the difference? Old mutants. Did you practice that? No. That's pretty good, man. That's the limit of my Spanish. That's so weird that you know those specific words. Well, I'm sure. That's a guess. Okay.

I'm pretty sure I'm correct. And if I'm not correct, we'll get emails. Absolutely. You'll get emails. I won't get any because I didn't attempt it, just to clarify. I have nothing to do with that. We're going to talk also Black Panther news. A big 80s franchise is back.

Some Bond news. Another CW show gets cancelled. Deadpool 3 is happening. We've got one trailer in particular we're going to talk about. Two trailers we're going to talk about, sorry. And then, of course, we've got some big news for DC and movies coming at Christmas, aren't we, mate? Wonder Woman I'm talking about.

That's exactly right. Just Wonder Woman. What happened to, remember Hobbs and Shaw? Do you remember Hobbs and Shaw? Of course I remember Hobbs and Shaw. In the vaguest possible sense. Remember how Hobbs and Shaw had like two CIA handlers and one was Rob Delaney and one was Ryan Reynolds?

Do you remember that? When are they going to get a movie? Like their own. Yes. Aren't they going to just stay in the Hobbs and Shaw reverse? I guess, but I don't want any more Hobbs and Shaw. Do you think there's like a, there'll be a movie where Ryan Reynolds is out in the field and he's like, but I don't even want to wear cut off jean shorts because he's asked to

do an action scene. Oh, okay. And that's what he's wearing for some reason. All right. Because he's a nerd and he doesn't know what to wear. What is happening here? This is. Because he's not used to being in the field. He doesn't know what to wear. What is happening here? This is. Because he's not used to being in the field.

He doesn't know what you wear. What's happening here is James is doubling down on this. He made a wild supposition about what rogue CIA agents wear in the field. And now he will not admit his mistake. You know what? I think I need this. You're going to crack that kombucha. That's right.

Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I guess they'll be in the next Hobbs and Shaw. But I don't want another Hobbs and Shaw. Too bad. On those two mucking about. Yeah, that would be fun, I don't know. I mean, I guess they'll be in the next Hobbs and Shaw. But I don't want another Hobbs and Shaw. Too bad. Those two mucking about. Yeah, that would be fun, I think. Anyway, we've got to do some news, Mason. Or just as they were in the movie, maybe just two separate adventures

and they call each other on the phone and they explain what is happening. Like a Zoom call? No, like a regular call. Okay, cool. We would cut in between with filming so we would know who's talking. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, cool. And they would know in story because they've called one another.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. And there's caller ID presumably on their phone. So whatever way you look at it, everybody knows what's going on. Everybody knows exactly what's going on. That's right. That's the magic of movies. Oh, quick side note.

Yeah. Before I forget, this week I was on an episode of the podcast The Mug Off. Oh, The Mug Off. That's right. So it's Jerry and Cameron and Yaz and they talk about all the unresolved vendettas that you never let go of for as long as you live. You'd do very well on this podcast. I've got so many.

Yeah. I've got so many. But they're three boys from Sydney and if you want to listen to it, they've got podcasts with great comedians. They've got Ann Edmonds, Cam James from Finding Drago. Oh, yeah. All sorts of just funny boys. Good names.

Yeah. Good names all around. Good names, big names. Check that podcast out, yeah. The mug off. They're pretty rude boys, but they kept it pretty PG for me. Oh, I don't like it if it's rude. You like it when it's rude.

I like it a little bit sometimes. That's right. Anyway, back to the news. I mean, that's the most important news. I agree. But here's some news. And there's also time codes if you do want to jump around. If you want to get to the New Mutants, if you really want to know a hot take.

Hello Reporter have said that Black Panther 2 will film in July. So sources report that Shiri will take on a more central role in the movie's sequel. And Narco's Mexico star, Tenuch Huerta, and I looked up the, I put it out like phonetically so I could like say it, try to say it properly properly and I didn't. Like that's as good as I can do. I'm sorry, I really tried but I cannot do it with this accent

for the life of me. Please send me emails. I apologise. They think he's going to be the antagonist in the movie. Yeah, right. So we don't really know the storyline in terms of, well, anything about it really. Like what direction they're going to go with the villain.

Obviously they have to change the entire thing around the passing of Chadwick Boseman, who's going to take on the mantle if that even happens. A friend of the show Nando V. Movies on Twitter suggested that his role might be either Wind Eagle, Moses Magnum, that might be my bet as well because he's like an arms dealer in the style of Claw. Claw, yeah, yeah.

Or Atuma, who's like a... Atuma? No, Claw. Claw, yeah, yeah. Or Atuma who's like a – Atuma? No, no. I really stepped in it here. I like that. Look, I've never said this out loud. Atuma, I guess. No, that's even worse.

That's like Arnold saying it in Gideon Cop. That's exactly right. But I believe he is from Atlantis which would – Oh, that would mean Namor then at some point. Yeah. Okay, that's interesting. Well, they've got ties, don't they? Like those characters?

Yeah, I think so, yeah. Their origins are sort of linked or their worlds are often... It's kind of like the Amazons and the Atlanteans in DC. They've got that kind of... But here he is. He's an Atlantean warlord. He's got a big helmet. He's got a big old headpiece.

It's really great, yeah. Okay, great. Okay, cool. So, yeah, look, we still don't really know. As they said here, though, we don't really know what they're doing, but Shuri looks like she's going to take on a more central role in the sequel. We haven't really discussed what we think they should do with that because we don't want to be like, this is what they should do

and make a CGI fight and have a CGI death. And he'll appear in the spirit realm. Yeah, no, it's all a bit distasteful, isn't it? Yeah. So we don't know what to. We've had, little peek behind the curtain, we've had a couple of small conversations about this and every time we've been like, probably cut that out if I must.

Yeah. But, you know, I'm sure they've probably, I know they're like, we're taking our time to like reflect and whatever, but I think immediately they would have been like, what do we do? Yeah, for sure. And if it's filming in July, they know what they're doing at this point. They'd have to have it pretty locked down at this point. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Look, I honestly think at this point they wouldn't go, let's replace him with another actor. No, but that would be better than the rumour, which is not true, that they were going to CGI double M. Yeah, for sure. That would be better, yeah. But I think at this point they're probably going to choose to go with Black Panther as a mantle and not an individual,

and Shuri will probably take the role, would be my guess. Yeah. But look, I'll just say what I would like to see, because one, and I don't mean this to be distasteful, but I think because it's such a big role you would put two people in it. So you might put like M'Baku and Shuri. They're both Black Panther. And they're both Black Panther.

And not like we're fighting but it's more like this is a big deal and these are big shoes to fill. Yeah, and you could say, okay, well. And he learnt lessons. Yes. And they both have different skills. Like he's more of a warrior and she's more like your Iron Man-y tech kind of. Yeah, and they could do like one protects Wakanda

and one goes around the world or something like that. So that could work. You could do it like a team or whatever. Yeah. I don't know. Because, again, and the only reason I say that is because one person, it's like who do you get? Yes.

Even if it's someone stepping in as a new character or an existing character, how do you do it? So anyway. I guess Martin Freeman. He'd be ready. There'd be some people who'd love that. Yeah, they really would. Not that he's great in those movies.

I think I could be wrong. Deadliner reporting. Give this another go. The Predator 5 is in the works. All right, cool, great. So they all get 5 now, do they? Or 6? 5 is when they get good again. Maybe that's true, yeah. So they all get five now, do they? Or six? Five's when they get good again. Maybe that's true, yeah.

We made that rule. We did. It only worked that one time. But boy did it work, mostly. Fast and Furious and then Hobbs and Shaw, which wasn't that great. But then, we get up to the fifth Hobbs and Shaw. Denim shorts. Denim shorts, a go-go. Everybody's in denim shorts. Because he doesn't know what to wear in the field,

Mason. I get it now. That's what I'm doing. Right, right, right, right. He's taking an emergency sip of that kombucha. So apparently it's not going to pick up on unresolved plot threads from the fourth installment. Remember at the end when he had a big waggly CGI predator suit? Oh, yeah, yeah, the super suit.

Yeah, yeah. We did an episode on it. I think it's one of our meanest episodes in terms of movies that we saw. Up until this week. Yes. I think I have less to say this week. I do also. Yeah.

So it's not going to finish on from that. But it is directed by, I don't have the name in front of me. I think it's Dan Trachtenberg from 10 Cloverfield Lane. Oh. So that's good. Okay. If that is. Might be more of a suspense-y kind of movie.

Less of a CGI monstrosity and just machine guns blazing kind of thing. Now, I might be wrong about this. I probably am. But I think that's the best Cloverfield movie. Of the two Cloverfield movies. The three Cloverfield movies. And the third straight to Netflix one that is very bad and doesn't count. I didn't see Warframe in 2013.

That's a. Video game? Yeah, that's a. He directed it and I'm like, what is this? Oh. Oh, it's a television. No, it doesn't matter. Okay.

So the only films he's done is 10 Cloverfield Lane and the upcoming Predator film. Yeah, right. Okay. Yeah, so I think that's the bit that made me go, oh, yeah, okay. I mean, and that's a trick, obviously. Yeah, right. Okay. Yeah, so I think that's the bit that made me go, oh, yeah, okay. I mean, and that's a trick, obviously. Yeah, that's right. We're going to be tricked.

But, you know, I think that's a good direction. Do you think this one will make money? No, they won't. They never do. Also, it's like, where's the world going to be by the time this comes out? Is it a straight to streaming thing? Because the whole landscape has shifted. That's true.

Which, again, we'll talk about later. Now, we don't really know what the story's about, but if I had to guess, they're going to bring back Dutch. I think that's the only hand they've got left. Okay. Because he hasn't been back in any previous ones. That's true. It's too late to do a sequel to Predators.

Do you do the comic book that also became a novel that was called Concrete Jungle where it's his brother and they're identical, except he wears like a suit and tie because he's a cop? He's back from space or something or he's part of a task force or they bring him back and they're like, you know how you did the predator? There's actually a second predator. And there might have been some predators in the middle. As far as we're concerned, they're non-canonical.

Have you seen the Halloween movies? You know how we cut most of the ones in the middle out but to be honest. As far as we're concerned, they're non-canonical. Have you seen the Halloween movies? You know how we cut most of the ones in the middle out? Yes, that's what I think they're doing. Yeah, right, okay. And maybe they'll be like a loose, you know, like they'll loosely reference other stuff. Yeah, I think if that's the case, I reckon there might be a scene in a military base where you see some files flash on screen.

Yeah. And it's like, Danny Glover. Yeah. And it's the other guy. Yeah, exactly. Here's one of the Bill Paxton's or Pullman's being killed in a subway car. Here's Jake Busey. He was in the 2018 one.

Yeah. Remember that? Yeah. Also, one of the ideas at the end was, I think they asked Arnold to come back for the last one. Yeah. And I think he was going to do like a get to the chopper moment. He worked for the government kind of thing.

Or maybe it was going to be that he was in the capsule at the end. Or maybe we just thought that would have been a good idea. Oh, yeah, yeah, that's the one, yeah. They did do a Ripley thing where they opened the thing and it was Ripley. Oh. But it was like young Ripley, which makes no sense. In the time vortex. In the Predator.

So at the end, for those people who haven't seen the Predator, it's horrible. But at the end, the Predator brings something of worth because of global warming because he wants to help the human race. Is it technology that will stop global warming? Nope. It's a big Iron Man Predator suit which they clearly added well in post because it looks bad and CGI. But one of the options that they

filmed was they built an Alan Ripley body but it was like the age she was in Aliens probably and she's got a facehugger on her and I guess she went through a time portal. Because that's the far future. Yeah. And this was the modern day and so, wow, that's a real Hail Mary pass

because it gives you, it gives the filmmakers, it gives them so many options but so few good options, you know what I mean? Oh, yeah. Because they'd have to go, okay, well, this gives us the opportunity to introduce time travel or like some sort of maybe they've sent Ripley's DNA back in time. Yeah, exactly.

But how and why she got a facehugger on. That's the image that was floating around. Oh. Yeah, and it's got like Ripley on her. Yeah, right. But then it's also like, well, aliens, are we going to train the aliens like in Jurassic World to fight the predators? Oh, do you think?

Yeah. Yeah, that would be cool. Well, there was also, because Predators was heavily reshot. I know we like criticized Shane Black for how bad that movie was, but there was a moment where the good predators were going to team up. There's like footage of them all on a tank together, like the humans and the aliens. I don't know whether that would have fixed that movie, but boy, oh, boy.

Something may have done at some point. If they kept spinning their wheels eventually, maybe something would have fixed that, yeah. Anyway. Okay, here's the thing, though. But does anybody want this? You mentioned like money. Yes.

People don't care? Well, that's what I'm saying. Like we sort of care because we grew up with this. Yeah. Well, that's the thing. Speaking of Schwarzenegger, if they're like, well, we're going to bring back Dutch, you can't bring back somebody who isn't Schwarzenegger playing Dutch. But also he was just in Terminator 6.

Yes. And 5. Oh, yeah. But they all did very poorly. So I'm guessing like sure. He's not a draw. No, that's true. I mean if they all did very poorly, so I'm guessing like sure. He's not a draw. No, that's true. I mean if they're like, hey, Arnold,

do you want to come back to attempt to save another franchise that you were in, you know, and like the last one it's not going to work out. That you refused all of the circles for. Yeah. Yeah. Like the burden is on you, Arnold, right now. Yeah. Are they going to try and guilt him into it?

They might have to. They'll say this is on you. So, yeah, I don't know. What about Danny Glover? They brought back Danny Glover. I mean, sure, but it's like they're all very old. Yeah, I know. Who cares? It's again, it's like that.

Who cares? I'm trying to think of any other support. He also, he came, Dutch just came back in the... Adrian Brody. Yeah, but again, nobody saw that movie. No, I know, exactly. I would love that. That's the movie I want to see. I want to see a sequel to that. Yeah. From the piano, though, is what I meant. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, yeah know, exactly. I would love that. That's the movie I want to see. I want to see a sequel to that. From the piano, though, is what I meant. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

From the movie Splice. Yep. But Dutch was, the character was recently in that new Predator game, wasn't he? There was like a skin and maybe Arnold came back for that. They at least had the skin of old Dutch. Oh, did they? Yeah. I think it's called Predator Hunting Grounds.

Oh. Let me check that. We're talking about this too long. No, I like this. This is good. Yeah, but people? Yeah. I think it's called Predator Hunting Grounds. Oh. Let me check that. We're talking about this too long. No, I like this. This is good. Yeah, but people don't. Okay. Oh, was it like a first-person shooter?

Yeah, yeah, and one of you is the predator and one of you is the whatever. Okay, right, right, right. Yeah. So it's an image. It's an old Arnold situation. For everybody else who's listening, just do the same thing James did and Google it. Google it and then look at it. He's got sunglasses and he's got a beard.

Nice. And he's like, get to the chopper. And people are like, yeah, I love it. Yeah, there's really no other characters that survived that would, I mean, and none of them could really. No, everyone in the first one's dead. Yeah. Anyway, let's really move on.

Yeah, okay, let's do it. Because I want to talk about more video game, Mason. Okay, more video game. So IO Interactive behind the Hitman games, the new ones, they are working on a James Bond video game, an origin story where you earn your 00 status. Yeah. We got a trailer.

We didn't get anything really in terms of in-game footage. And they said 2022, I think. Okay, right. Yeah, it looked interesting. I think this is a good idea. I think, not that I've played any of the new Hitman games, but a lot of the recent Bond games are just shooters. Yeah.

Mostly like Call of Duty style first person shooters. Yeah. There's exceptions like Bloodstone is third person, which I think is actually quite good. But it's a lot of like you kill 50 guys a level. Yeah. And I mean, traditionally in a James Bond movie, you do a little bit of infiltration before you kill 50 guys.

You've got a phone that unlocks a door or a window. Yeah. You've got a laser that cuts a lock. Bond, we're giving you this phone and it exclusively opens one window. We're not entirely sure which window it is, but we bet it's going to come in handy at some point. That's so true about how games work often, isn't it? And then you drop it afterwards. Yep, that's right.

You're like, well, I've used it. It took all the power to open this window. So what I think they're doing here, I don't think they're tying it to any particular James Bond. Yeah. I think they're doing it like Spider-Man PS4, where they'll make their own universe and their own Bond, and it'll probably be an amalgamation of the Bonds over the years.

Is it even Bond, I wonder, I think? Or are you just becoming a double O? I think that might be the case. Well, it says James Bond origin story. Oh, okay, right. Never mind. Yeah, maybe. But, yeah, I think that might be the case. Well, it says James Bond origin story. Oh, okay, right. Never mind. Yeah, maybe. But yeah, I think people would want.

Remember they did a Jason Bourne game, which was sort of based on the movie, but it was not Matt Damon? Yep. From like 2009 maybe, 2008? I don't know. Yeah. That was the year of grey third-person shooters. My God, was it ever.

Wanted. Remember Wanted, the video game? Yep. Remember 50 Cent, Get Rich or Die Trying, the video game? Right on the sand? Yeah. And you had to get a crystal skull back or something? Yeah, that's right.

Everybody got a third person shooter. You got to go ham on everybody in the Middle East because they stole your crystal skull, I remember. Just for people who think we're joking, real game. Oh, yeah. Real game. Real game. He voiced it.

He had a lot to do with it He was 50 cents probably like Did I? Wow Doesn't sound like me No Yeah Here's some sad news

But not surprising The rapper reporting That Black Lightning Is coming to an end After four seasons The CW said To be still developing A spin off around

The villain Painkiller Played by Jordan Calloway This is a show That I've never watched But I know Some people Some people Have written in I've watched some of show that I've never watched, but I know some people have written in and said they're big fans of. I've watched some of it and I enjoyed what I watched.

Yeah. I think this falls into the CW universe is collapsing in on itself so they can move everything to the HBO Max and they're doing the Green Lantern series and everything's, it's going to be much cooler and, you know, you know what they're doing? They're making it real and more expensive. Because there's nothing cooler, James, than a man with a glowing green ring and like a green unitard on just floating through space. That's cool and edgy, you know what I mean?

Denim shorts would be the closest thing you could get. But they've got a green tint to them because he's Green Lantern. Yeah, Ryan Reynolds, obviously. Yep. He'd return. So, yeah, four seasons is a decent run. But again, I think they're slowly killing all of this stuff. Yes.

Just because they are. Just to centralize it. Yep, pretty much. So there you bloody go. But still, you've got one more season if you're a big fan of that show, which hopefully they can finish up in a good way. Deadliner reporting. The Molyneux sisters, who people might know from Bob's Burgers,

which I only recently started watching. Good show. It is a good show. I'm glad there's nine seasons I can watch. They're going to write Deadpool 3. Okay. It's moving ahead and that kind of ties into the Predator story because they're both 20th century.

They were 20th century Fox properties. They went over to Disney and for the longest time it was like, what are Disney going to do with your R-rated properties? I don't know. But like looking at these or Deadpools, like they're not doing well regardless aside from Deadpool, are they? Where's Alien at? I don't know.

Are people loving that? Anyway, so David Leitch, who directed the last one, he's booked until 2021. He's unlikely to return because of that reason, but the door is open for him to come back. I think I liked two more than I liked one. But I like them both. It's got more stuff in it. Yeah think I liked two more than I liked one. But I like them both. It's got more stuff in it.

Yeah, I like two. It's like a budget kind of, I think, enhanced. Like the characters you could bring in and things you could show, which I think helped that film. And Rob Delaney. And Rob Delaney was in it, exactly. Ryan Reynolds took me off. Exactly.

So I think this is Disney making moves towards these properties. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they're not just going to sit on the shelf. They're going to roll some stuff out from them, which I think is probably a good idea. Speaking of Disney, did you hear this this week? So there's an author named Alan Dean Foster. I have a letter about this, yes.

Oh, do you want to talk about it an hour later? I can do an hour. So there's a science fiction author called Alan Dean Foster who writes original stuff, but also for a long time he would write, he was like the official noveliser of various 20th century Fox properties, so like Star Wars and Aliens. He also did Splinter of the Mind's Eye. That's right.

The Star Wars sequel which they were going to make if the first one didn't make money. Yeah, yeah. We did a comic. Yeah, so he's been working on that for years. But this has come up recently because Disney acquired all of Fox's entertainment properties. working on that for years but this has come up recently yeah because disney acquired all the fox's entertainment properties can i say quickly thank you to daniel the temp for writing and

saying would you guys mind mentioning oh yeah that's right yeah so what basically has happened is that they've acquired all the properties including all his novelizations for which he would normally get residual residuals or royalties every time somebody bought a copy or was included in which by the way, they still do. People buy those books. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Because, I mean, people come to Star Wars or Aliens or whatever and they're like, well, I've got to buy everything that's in there.

Yeah. Or what, you know, because there's a lot of stuff in that original Star Wars story that's not in the movie. But it turns out that they haven't been paying Alan Dean Foster royalties. They haven't even been sending him royalty statements. Nope. Because according to them, when they purchased the rights to these novels, they didn't also purchase the liabilities

of the novels. They believe that they still lie with the existing company. Since they don't sell any of the books anymore, they don't have a liability to pay him. And he bought Lucasfilm, which is all of the Star Wars stuff. Yeah, so they're basically saying, well, we bought the rights to sell these, but we don't have to pay anybody for them. Which is like we try to keep it light on this podcast.

Like, oh, isn't it good that we get all the Marvel characters together because they bought 20th Century Fox or whatever. But at the same time, Disney get up to a lot of shady stuff. Oh, absolutely. And I'm sure this will be challenged in court and I hope turned around for him. Also, he's quite sick. Oh, absolutely. And if this, I'm sure this will be challenged in a court and I hope turned around for him. Also, he's quite sick. Yeah, yeah.

And his wife is sick as well, I think. Also, he wrote the Force Awakens novelization. Yeah, yeah. So he was still working for them. That's true. Apparently he gets paid for that one or that was, I don't know how that deal worked. Right. Because I know also with a lot of the new authors, they don't get paid that, like comic

book writing and book writing, it doesn't pay that well. No, that's true. It's often per also with a lot of the new authors they don't get paid that like comic book writing and book writing it doesn't pay that no that's true it's often per page in a lot of instances yeah but so basically if this if disney wins out of this it sets a precedent where basically you could agree to publish somebody's novel or whatever and then just sell the rights to it to a company you also own yeah and then you'd be like well we don't actually have to pay you anymore because we split up the rights and the we split up the rights to a company you also own. Yeah. And then you'd be like, well, we don't actually have to pay you anymore because we split up the rights and the liabilities. Thank goodness. Yeah, exactly.

So cool stuff, Disney. Good on you. You dick. I hope that – I know there was a bit of a Twitter campaign about that. Yeah. But that sets a bad precedent for every company. Yeah. Because it shows what you can get away with.

It's the same with where Disney extended the copyright for characters. Oh, Disney did something bad again. That was a couple of decades ago. Yeah, it was, yeah. Which basically extended the copyright for literally everything, which means things didn't move into the public domain because they didn't want to lose Mickey Mouse or whatever the fuck. So there you go.

Their greatest character ever. Yeah, though he's back in Disney shorts or something. fuck. Yeah. So there you go. Yeah, greatest character ever. Yeah, though he's back in Disney shorts or something. Oh, you know what he's like. Yeah, oh. There's too much water. That's the thing, isn't it? Who says that? Louis C.K.

Okay, there you go. No good, also no good. See? Everything Disney touches. You can't say anything anymore, Mason. Right? What have we got here? So Variety reporting that Terrence Winter, who worked on Boardwalk Empire,

he has left the Batman spin-off series due to creative differences. This is a spin-off prequel of the Batman, which is coming out next year or year after, whenever that's coming out. And what was his role in this? Just the showrunner? Showrunner. So, yeah, whatever he did with Boardwalk Empire. And there's speculation, like, was he trying to make a two comic book movie? Was he trying to make a two real world, like, Boardwalk Empire?

I reckon they were probably like, you're putting in too many of those little club collars, little white collars with the little pin through them. Is that something he's married to? No, no, it's just Boardwalk Empire. They're all about that. I know that, Mason. I'm just thinking, do you think that's something he'd carry over? Yeah, I think so.

I think he's insisting on it. I think they probably hired him based on those. Yeah, it's like you said prequels. This is set in the same era as Boardwalk Empire. That's right. Well, we need Commissioner Gordon and he can be his granddad because I don't do that. Yeah, that's right.

Everybody's got a bowler hat on. So, yeah, I mean, not great news. Look, to be fair, I haven't seen much or if any of Boardwalk Empire, but obviously it's a show that is very successful that people like. So they're on the lookout for a new showrunner. We could do it. I'm busy. What are you doing?

I don't want to do it. You don't want to do it without me or you just don't want to do it? No, I don't really just want to do it. Okay, cool. When I said we, I meant me. Oh, okay. And then I assumed you'd drop out and then I'd be like, well, it's just okay. And then I assumed you'd drop out. And then I'd be like, well, it's just me.

And then I'm like, no, I don't really want to do it either. Look, we'll just put it down to creative differences. Okay, cool. That'll be our official statement. Yeah. Why we had to jump off this project. But look, we had a great time working with all involved. Yeah, that's right.

We wish no ill will. Good luck to everybody moving forward, obviously. We got to pay our play contracts, so we got paid regardless. On to the next project, which we will also drop out of. That's right, yeah. I feel like there's some people that just do that. It's the Game of Thrones guys. It's the Game of Thrones guys.

All right. Trailers, ahoy. Mason Trailers. Ahoy. Ahoy. Mason Trailers. Ahoy. Ahoy.

Mason Trailers. Ahoy. Ahoy. Mason Trailers, ahoy, ahoy. Mason Trailers. Ahoy, ahoy, ahoy, ahoy. Mason Trailers. Ahoy. Very good. This is a long time coming. I've got a little bit of detail on this, but Chaos Walking, the trailer.

What is it? What's this movie? Okay. It's young adult. Oh, it's based on a, okay, it did say based on the bestselling novel, so okay, right. Here's the thing though. Yes. I didn't realize this was young adult.

I've got a few things that I want to mention about this. Oh, what's this trailer about? Okay, the premise seems to be that Daisy Ridley is in a spaceship. Yeah. And she crashes on – I'm glad Daisy Ridley's getting work, just FYI. They filmed this ages ago. They filmed this in 2017. 2017.

So she got that job. This came out, they filmed this ages ago. They filmed this in 2017. 2017. So she got that job. She was in a spaceship. It crash lands on a planet upon which all the women are dead and there's only men, but men, there's something on the planet that means all men's thoughts are projected like above their head

like holograms. Like that Auntie Donna skit. Yeah, it's like What Men Want. It is like that, but with pictures. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I saw that popped up on Netflix recently. I won't watch it. No, it's like What Men Want. It is like that, but with pictures. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I saw that popped up on Netflix recently. I won't watch it. No, I won't watch it either.

Or was that? Wait. The Mel Gibson one is What Women Want. Yeah, What Men Want's the new one. Sorry, go on. Yeah. And also, like, if you're like, I'm thinking of a snake really hard. Snake attacks people.

Your mind snake comes at people. Does it really, though? I don't know. I don't think it's a physical manifestation. Then why is that Jonas Brothers spooked by it? Because it's a scary snake. You'd get used to it eventually. You'd be like, oh, whatever mind snakes.

I guess it'd be like, but it'd be like if somebody were like, you flinched with a basketball. Oh, yeah, maybe. You'd still flinch. You still would probably. And a bit like, what if you. What? You think Tom Holland's found himself a big snake?

You'd be like, I mean, you could find a basketball. What if he had one on his shoulder? What if you had a parrot on your shoulder and you're like, nice dream parrot. And you're like, actually, it's a big snake. You'd be like, I mean, you could find a basketball. What if he had one on his shoulder? What if you had a parrot on your shoulder and you're like, nice dream parrot. And you're like, actually, it's a real parrot.

Okay. But what I would do then is I would exclusively think of basketballs. So then I'd be like, but I would also sometimes carry a basketball. That's what I'm saying. Two for flitching. Yeah,

exactly. Okay. There's ways you could use it. But not with a big snake is all I'm saying. I don't even remember that from the trailer. I'm defending a thing I don't remember. Nice. Anyway, so this to I don't remember. Nice. Anyway, so this to me doesn't feel like a young adult movie

because it feels like, you know what it does feel like? It feels like the fifth entry in a young adult series which people are sick of. And they're all like late 20s and they're like, okay, we'll just do this last one because when I was 14 I signed on for the first five weeks. I'll put the blonde wig on again. All right.

Well, the reason I think it feels like that is because also it feels like After Earth. Remember that movie After Earth? Is that the one with the Jada? Yeah. No, the Smiths. The Smiths. The Smith boys.

Yeah, that's right. Yeah. It's got that vibe, right? Yeah, a little bit, yeah. So this was filmed in August of 2017 on a $100 million budget. That seems pretty cheap. Does it? For running in the woods?

Oh, no, very expensive. But I mean for a blockbuster. For something with a Tom Holland and a Daisy Ridley and a Matt Mickelson. But they're slumming it is what I'm saying. This is 2017 though, I guess. Okay, right. But IndieWire reported that Doug Liman, the $100 million movie, was going to undergo extensive reshoots after the first cut was deemed unreleasable.

Wow. And have you seen some movies that have been released? Unreleasable. Yeah, some of them are unreleasable and yet they get released. So what they had to do, because these actors were so in demand, obviously because of Spider-Man and Marvel and the devil all the time, they couldn't get them back. Right.

So eventually the reshoots happened in May of 2019 for $15 million with Fede Alvarez who did The Evil Dead in 2013 and done some other stuff which I quite like. He did The Girl with the Spider's Web. I think the one you watched recently, the 2018 one. Yes, I did like that one. Which was a good one, I think you said. I like it.

It's pretty, you know. So he came back and fixed it, I guess, or enough. And now it's moving. Now it's finally being released. It was also, you know. So he came back and fixed it, I guess, or enough. And now it's moving. Now it's finally being released. It was also pushed due to the pandemic. Okay. So not a good track record for this movie. No.

And it also doesn't look great. It looks bad. So make of that what you will. It could be good. It could be like a World War Z situation where it comes out and people are like, this isn't right. This wasn't like the book, but it did tell its own story. Look at all these hologram snakes on his head.

And one of the journalist's brothers is like, bloody keep your thoughts to yourself, you weird hologram thoughts kid. Some people seem to be better at keeping their hologram thoughts inside their head. Yeah, you'd practice, wouldn't you? But Tom Holland doesn't seem to be. He seemed to be bad at it. But I think by the end he'll be the best at it.

Well, he's 14 in this, isn't he? Yeah, that's true. Do you reckon there's any way you can make him bigger? Like you're like, now I'm thinking of a big Yeti. Yeah. We're like, wait a minute, we're in the forest. You have read the books. Yeah, book number two, now I'm thinking of a big Yeti.

Yeah, that's right. What's it called again? Chaos something? Chaos Walking. Chaos Walking, there we go. I'm sure there's a better name we can think for it. I mean, it's a spaghetti thing. The Mind Snake.

Can it hurt you? Maybe. We don't know. Great. Justice League trailer. Yep. I did a video on it. You can check it out.

The main thing you need to realise is Steppenwolf is in it. Oh, they've put out the new one. We finally get a look at the new Steppenwolf is in it. Oh, they've put out the new look. We finally get a look at the new Steppenwolf, which is really the old Steppenwolf we've seen. Is it? Well, I mean, we've seen. It's pretty different. Yeah, it's pretty.

But, I mean, we've seen this before. Oh, like from BBS or whatever? Yeah. But haven't we seen? We've seen plenty of concept art of this before. Yeah, I guess so. He's just a bit spikier. He's a bit spikier.

He's less of a man with a helmet on as a man whose head is a helmet. Yeah, no, he's an armour. It's all in my video. I've got all sorts of details. Terrific. I was going to call you up for it and be like, and then I'm like, no, I won't bother you with it. So, yeah, go through that.

There's a whole lot of details that I've kind of picked up over the past few months which I've added. Okay. Because it's mostly the same trailer. It's a few bits and pieces. What do you think of this new Steppenwolf? It's better, but it's not great. No, I agree, yeah. Yeah, it I've added. Okay. Because it's mostly the same trailer. Yeah. It's a few bits and pieces. What do you think of this new Steppenwolf? It's better, but it's not great. No, I agree, yeah.

Yeah, it's definitely better because the last one was unreleasable. Some would deem it. That's just me, though. Yeah. Mason. Yes. Guess what's coming Christmas Day. Is it Wonder Woman 84?

No, it's Monster Hunter. They moved it up. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah, they did. Also Santa. Yes. All the kids listening, Santa is going to be. No, it's Monster Hunter. They moved it up. Oh, really? Yeah, they did. Also Santa. Yes. For all the kids listening, Santa is going to be.

No, he'll come the night of. I guess that's true. He'll do like a Christmas Eve into early Christmas morning. Yeah, I guess that's true. He's bringing everybody Wonder Woman 84. That's true, he is. Yeah. But guess what else is coming Christmas Day?

Monster Hunter something? Pixar's Soul. That's coming. Oh, straight to Disney Plus? Did I say guess who's coming Monster's Day then? Or did I say Christmas Day? We'll never know. Safety sip.

Yeah, Pixar's Solace. Okay, I'm excited for that. That's cool. Mason. Yes. I'm still doing this bit, so what am I going to do next? Guess what's coming Christmas Day? I don't know, James, what?

It's Wonder Woman, 84. Oh, yeah, nice, great. I wore you down. You thought I was going to zag and I didn't. You said the thing that I said earlier, yeah. There's a new trailer released this week, but it's exactly the same as the previous trailer release. I didn't watch it.

Okay. Because I'm like, I'm going to see this regardless and I don't need to see any more of this movie. That's true. So there's a few theories and even mentions of why they made this happen. What do you think of it, though? First of all, do you want me to break down the release schedule? Not really.

Here we go. So it's going to come to HBO Max. Okay, great. People want to know this, Mason. On the 25th of December, it's in your stocking, hot and fresh, Christmas morning. Yeah. Like a big pile of manure.

A lot of steam coming off the top of that. It looks good, though. You're like, ooh, is this a delicious croissant or something? Freshly baked croissants. Santa's. Santa's always delivering those Christmas croissants, isn't he? That's right, yeah. It's also going to.

He calls them croissants. Yes, very good. They're also going to theatres at the same time, the theatres that could open. Yeah. There are exceptions around the world. I think some places are getting it on the 16th of December. And I'm like, oh, cool.

Was that us? No. We get it the day after Boxing Day, which is like a thing they do in Australia. They release movies after Christmas. That's what it's for. That's what it's for. You open a box and you're like, oh, is there a freshly baked croissant in this?

It's a croissant. It's a boxing dissant, James, is what it is. Oh, okay, I get you. But the thing about this is, what I'm going to say is, here I go. Okay. Do you want to take a sip before you do it? Yeah, maybe. If you've got HBO Max, you can watch it. I don't.

Most places in the world, including here, do not. Do you think it'll be on the streaming service? Pirating? Pirating also, yes. Do you think it'll be on the streaming service that we have? No, it's not. So this is what I think they're doing. I think there's a few reasons why they're releasing it this way.

They're kind of maximizing the sale potential for this, considering the time period that it's coming out. That being said, it could very well be lucky to break even. It could very well do much better, but this is an uphill battle, especially when you make it available for piracy and then you don't release it. For several weeks. For people to purchase during a global lockdown.

Yeah. It kind of seems. People are getting so good at hacking. They're really good. They're getting better every day. Right. So what I think they're doing is. I've got one of those keyboards.

You can't even see the letters on the keys. It's just a series of symbols that I've put on there. I bet it's curved. Yeah, it's curved. Or it's got a split in the middle. So it's two separate keyboards. Yeah, you better believe it even see the letters on the keys. It's just a series of symbols that I've put on there. I bet it's curved. Yeah, it's curved. Or it's got a split in the middle so it's two separate keyboards. Yeah, you better believe it. Maybe they're on different levels. There's a trackball on one of them.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right. I've got a bunch of different monitors. One behind you. The one behind me, yeah. That's right. Put a toaster oven with my Pop-Tarts in it. That's there too.

Never have to leave. Don't have to leave. So this will drive up subscriptions for HBO Max, which is good because even if they don't make their money back on HBO Max or this whole thing, if you get somebody to sign up and they sign up for three years because of this, Wonder Woman will have paid for itself and then some if they stay on. It also means they're gearing up for Justice League. So this is kind of a little bit of like Justice League is coming,

don't you want to see? Yeah, and I guess people might be like, well, I've signed up for Wonder Woman. I may as well just stay subscribed until because it'll be a hassle to unsubscribe and resubscribe for Justice League. Exactly. And the other thing is it's going to go to as many theatres as it can so you'll get those cinema tickets that'll probably get it at least 100 million worldwide.

I'd imagine depending depending what's open. Europe's fucked. I don't know. And also after I think 30 days it's going to go to VOD. Okay. So they're going to take it off HBO Max, which might be a result of maybe they made a deal with all the different like Apple and Prime and whatever.

This has to go that way. Yeah, right. But also when you do that, you've locked in your subscriptions for HBO Max, you've got all the cinema tickets you're going to get and then anybody who hasn't seen it, it can pop up on your streaming service and be like, oh, yeah, I paid $30 for this, whatever. Yeah. So I'm not saying it's going to all add up to this making

a billion dollars because I'd imagine it wouldn't. I'm going to say it's going to add up to exactly $1 billion. Wow. Yeah. They're going to be like, I don't understand it. Not a penny less or more. Statistically, this is very unlikely. Exactly.

So it's as good as a strategy as you could do at this point, I think. And apparently also they're worried that it's getting stale. Like it was filmed in 2018. It was long delayed. So, yeah, this is what they're doing. Okay. What it's getting stale. Like it was filmed in 2018. It was long delayed. Yeah. So, yeah, this is what they're doing. Okay. What do they mean stale?

Just the concept of it? Well, yeah, because, you know, things can only sit on the shelf for so long. It's also set in the 80s, so I mean like. 80s are getting further away every day. That's true. Yeah, but I think, yeah, the early 2000s is back at this point. Is it? Yeah, I think so.

Boo. I was there. Yeah. I don't like it very much. We're going to bring back at this point. Is it? Yeah, I think so. Boo. I was there. Yeah. I don't like it very much. We're going to bring back those big jeans. I think we mentioned it on our conference. Just those big jeans. Those big jeans, they're always too long and you can see people walking down the street

and they'll just... The ground is wet. The ground is wet and it's just tracking all the way up their legs. You've got an inch of water at the bottom of your jeans. Just tracking up their jeans, yeah. I loved it. I didn't have those. inch of water at the bottom of your jeans. Just tracking up their jeans, yeah. I loved it. I didn't have those.

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And it made $45 million. Okay. Because it came out during a pandemic and Disney were like, here it is, we don't care. It was shot in July of 2017. Yep. I've got a list of things. This is what happened to that movie.

Okay. So with the release date of April of 2018 but then it was pushed back to February 22nd 2019 to Miss Deadpool 2 I loved Miss Deadpool too T.O.O?

Yeah, that's right, it's just Deadpool and he's got a dress on Very good, and then it also got moved to August 2nd of 2019 but they moved that away from Dark Phoenix. Yep. Then the reshoots were happening, but then that didn't happen because of the Disney purchase, so they didn't end up doing any reshoots.

Which is surprising, isn't it, upon watching the movie? No, I'm not surprised. I think they saw it and went, why would we? But it feels like a movie that's been reshot. Does it? Yeah. I feel like it's a movie that's missing things. Okay.

Maybe that's it. We'll get to it. So it was moved to April 3rd of 2020. Obviously the pandemic hit. So it was delayed. It was so close. I remember seeing that in cinemas. It was actually delayed indefinitely.

Yep. And then it was released in May of August 28th of this year. And nobody saw it, including us, because we were in lockdown then. What do you think the story was? Oh, okay. So this is a girl. Yeah. Danny Moonstar.

Yeah. And she's like, oh, no. And her family's like, oh, no. There's a tornado coming. We're going to save you from this tornado. Something's coming, he says, we need to save you. And then there's the tornado or something, or maybe it's not a tornado. Maybe it's a big bear.

Maybe it's a big bear. And then she wakes up and she's in a hospital for mutants and there's one doctor there who's like, you're a mutant. And she's like, okay, I'll take that on face value. And you can't leave. And she's like, seems fine, great, good. And then they're like, hey, meet the other teens in this hospital. They're new mutants also.

Yeah, and one of them's like, I'm Russian and a racist. And the others are like, we're just other teens. We don't have personalities. Some of us have accents. Yeah. Some of these might be our real accents in real life. It's neither here nor there and then it's like i was cast because game of thrones was big at the time this was right i like maisie yeah and then they're like weird stuff's happening in this hospital isn't it yeah that's the whole movie yeah and then um it turns out that um

they all have to use their powers and yeah it's um it opens with the classic, which I missed, if I'm honest, the Marvel logo, but at the top of that it says, in association with. In association with Marvel, yeah. Just so you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is your granddaddy's Marvel. It absolutely is, yeah.

We should say this is the last gasp of the X-Men franchise. It does tie in in the loosest possible sense. Because they mention Professor X sort of? Well, no, they say, one of them says, hey, you know the X-Men, don't you? And she goes, yep, even though there's no establishing moment. This movie, it's odd, isn't it? Do you find it was an odd movie? It's not an X-Men movie.

I mean, it's got mutants in it Who are in the X-Men Yeah But it doesn't Tie to anything Or mention Yeah But it requires A certain amount of

Assumed knowledge Like the characters Are aware Not only that they are Mutants obviously But that The X-Men are out there Doing X-Men stuff

Yeah But also Yeah like I said Which X-Men universe is it? Because there's a million. I'm talking about the movies. Every movie is in a different universe, I think. I think this one probably is as well. Or it's in the... Let me think.

I think it was supposed to be in the 80s initially. Like it was going to be tied to the... I think this one is maybe in the X-Men Apocalypse universe. Yeah, that's the one that I... So it's in whatever timeline it is. If that one is set in the 80s. Which I think it might be. Oh, it's not. that I think. So it's in whatever timeline it is. If that one is set in the ages. Yeah. Which I think it might be. No, it's not. They go to the mall?

Is this better than like Dark Phoenix Apocalypse though? Not really. I don't think it is. But what I do like about it. I think, yes, go ahead. Is that it's different for an X-Men movie. Yeah. I think the idea is there's something in it. But I think they've clearly just chopped together whatever they could

to make it as short as they could. Yeah. Or maybe they didn't have enough footage. Well, I think the thing about this movie is. It's so short. Yeah, the thing about this movie is that I think, you're right, in theory it's a good idea. Because if you look at the X-Men comics,

it's not all like Dark Phoenix and end of the world shit. Yeah, that's true. But I think like in theory the idea that we go, okay, well, it's a horror movie but it's in the X-Men universe, that's an interesting premise. But I don't think it is written like to really to cater with the idea that it fully has mutants in a horror movie. And that's like for months we've been like, well,

we're excited about this because it is the concept has been interesting. But I don't think it is that interesting. Or it wasn't executed interestingly? No, and I think a lot of this is just like, okay, we'll just put some standard issue teens mucking about scenes in here. Yeah. Because that's what happens in a horror movie. You have some teens mucking about.

That's fun. And we'll just put that in there. I felt like the poor version of, remember they have that scene in First Class where they're all like, you're Cyclops because you've got one eye. He's not in that movie. But, you know what I mean? There's a moment where she's like, you're Cyclops because you've got one eye. He's not in that movie. But you know what I mean? There's a moment where she's like, an eye mistake. She's like, oh, this is the worst part of this pretty good movie.

But there's scenes like that in this or one in particular where they drug the nurse, the one person who works there. Weird setting because it's spoilers. Fuck it. Spoilers. I'm going to say it's fine. Look, I'm going to say it's fine. Look, I'm going to say, honestly, just worst movie ever. I think it had the last gasp of the Fox X-Men

and their reactionary take on most of the movies working against it. Yeah. And it probably had a bunch of stuff that fit into that continuity, which they probably took out. Yeah, right. And I think also it never got a chance to get reshoots. Yeah. And it's obviously been heavily delayed and, like,

maybe the money that was supposed to go into it didn't. So all in all, like, yeah, it makes sense. Sure. I just think it's, like, it's muddled and it doesn't know what it wants. Does it want to be a horror movie fully or does it want to be, like, it's not horrific enough to be a real horror movie really. No. And it's not superhero-y enough.

No, there's a moment where the guy who can fly and catch on fire chains himself to a cinder block and flies in a circle. Yes, that's true. Is that superhero enough for you? Oh, my God, is it ever? You better believe it, yeah. Anyway. Anyway, they're all, yeah, okay, spoilers anyway.

Spoilers, the villain is the one woman who works in the hospital with them and a big mind bear. Yes. And I guess Essex Corp. But they don't really expand on that beyond that they're being experimented on or whatever. Well, that's why I said it's probably set in the apocalypse timeline because I think isn't there a post-credit sequence of one of those?

Yeah, with links to that on Mr. Sinister or something. But that's the thing. Like the premise of this movie or at the outset, the one doctor that they talk to is like, is there another person in that hospital? I don't think so. Cool. Because at one point she's like, you're mucking about

and I'm going to put you in solitary. And then she just drags him by the elbow to put him in solitary. But anyway, so the premise, what their belief is, the kids' belief is that they've been sent there in order to harness their powers. But they don't actually do any of the harnessing of the powers. There's never like a training montage where they're shooting lasers at targets or anything? Like you're kind of on your own. Like the dude who ties himself to a cinder block and flies in circles.

Like it's, yeah, it's not. So you'd be like, this is suspicious. We can't leave and nobody ever visits and they're not training us. And it's just like weird round table discussions about our feelings. And meditating with your eyes shut and stuff like that. But like if that premise is true and it's like it's Mr. Sinister attempt, you know, getting, building these living weapons so he can later use them, why isn't he teaching him how to do stuff like, you know?

Is that what he's even doing? I don't know. Because I know there's also like she has like a mind flash where it cuts to like a white walled hospital, kind of like what we saw in Logan with Daphne Keene, you know, the flashback with the Weapon X program replicating. Yes. But those things aren't linked.

So is it like you get taken to there after you fix your powers or whatever? I don't know. They probably explained it look I wasn't really watching it but also there's no instance right at the start of the movie where she's Danny Moonstar is having a normal-ish life and then suddenly her mutant powers manifest and then it's a clue to later what is going to happen

I guess there is the demon bear it's kind of like, you know what it's like? It's kind of like the movie Sphere. You ever seen the movie Sphere? And probably the book it's based on is probably by Michael Crichton. Or it isn't. There's a big sphere they find under the ocean.

Yes. And everything you think of when you're asleep becomes a reality. Yes. Like maybe you think of squids attacking the base. Okay. And that happens. That's what she's got. What if I think of a million dollars?

And a million dollars attacks the base in golden coins. Yeah. So it's that, right? Yes. And there's other examples of that where you manifest your dreams or whatever, I'm sure. It's in Batman. You know the episode of Batman where Batman has to kill that girl

because her mind is taken over? Oh, yeah, right, right. He doesn't or whatever? Yeah, yeah. So this is like a worse version of that. Yes. Yeah. But I don't even know.

You don't know where you were going with that. I'm out of kombucha. You're out of kombucha. Anyway, what were you saying? I can't remember what I was saying. Oh, well, it's the thing. It's so scattered as a movie. I don't see that.

But also like the weird, so what happens is Danny comes, and that's her power. Like she can sense people's fears and then they manifest in reality so every every uh character has a a fear fear that is manifested but sometimes their fear is the long con like it presents itself as an anya taylor joy for probably 40 minutes and then when you turn your back it turns into a girl on fire. Yes, right. And I'm like, whoa, that is commitment to that bit. Because a lot of the time it's just like a spooky man.

Yeah, right. But that's like it lures him in. They have a whole lot of rapport. Weird. Yeah. Sometimes it's a priest who could be Brendan Gleeson, but it isn't. Initially you think it's Brendan Gleeson, but it's just a man with a hot poker or whatever. Yeah.

Sometimes it is that. Yeah. Some of them have arcs is what I'm saying. Do they? No, I mean like the manifestations do. Oh, right. Okay, sure. Some of them are a bear.

One of them is a bear. In the comic books. Yeah. What I think is interesting is the new mutants like the team was sort of formed in this era in the 80s where there was a lot of, the X-Books were a lot of mutant stuff and also magic and sorcery and things. Because we have a character in this literally who's called Magic.

She's got one magic arm. She's got one magic arm. And teleportation. Teleportation and a dragon or something. She's got Lockheed the dragon. What's the deal with that dragon when it's not a dragon? What do you mean? Like it's a stuffed animal. Yeah, I mean, in the comics it's just a dragon. That's the deal with that dragon when it's not a dragon? What do you mean? Like it's a stuffed animal. Yeah,

I mean, in the comics it's just a dragon. That's what I thought. Yeah. But in this, I guess she's got, so in the comic book, she, her mutant ability is she can teleport, but she also has magic abilities. So she's also a sorceress, which is where, like, the one arm and the

sword comes from. The arm and the sword looks good. And that's how she knows the dragon, I guess. And in the comic books danny moonstar is also one of those characters where they never really knew what to do with her so like so initially she had that that the fear manifests in reality powers and then she could shoot like like she had like a psionic bow and arrow so she could shoot like energy bolts and also she was a valkyrie at one point like a like an asgard valkyrie so she had the like that was her origin or she got that job she got the job oh uh must have interviewed well right exactly yeah i could do attitude totally doesn't really have the hype but she has the attitude it's not about that you can put some

heels on that but anyway in that version uh the demon bear isn't a manifestation of her own fear it's a literal demon bear isn't it well it's own fear. It's a literal demon bear, isn't it? Well, it's the souls of her parents that were turned into a demon bear by a demon called the adversary. Called demon bear. Right? It's a demon bear making demon bits. That's right.

And the adversary was a demon that was let loose from hell by the mutant forge who used his magic powers to save his Vietnam buddies in Vietnam. From a demon bear. Exactly. So it's weird. But they've just had to – clearly it's from that like – Yeah. It's from that point of the X-Men where they're like,

this is too complicated. It's like, you know, how the juggernaut is magic. And Professor X's brother. Yeah, exactly. But that's too much to put in. So you just go, oh, the juggernaut's a mutant. So it's the same with this where they went, okay, well, she's magic, but also.

The bear's in her mind. And what is the dragon? Is he in somebody's mind or is he? Yeah, but I think also like what they did is not complete. Like I guess it's slightly simpler, but it's like she gets a story about how you've got a bear in your mind. It's never a bear in your mind. It's always wolves. Have you ever heard that version of the story? Yeah, you've got a bear in your mind. It's never a bear in your mind. It's always wolves.

Have you ever heard that version of the story? Yeah, you've got two wolves in the one you feed and whatever. It's never bears. This time it's bears. It's one bear. Because a bear is about as big as two wolves. I think that's what they're doing. But that being said, this bear is much bigger.

Real big. Big bear. But also I think it's maybe because. Maybe it didn't start as a big bear. You know what? I would have loved to have been in the meeting where they propositioned this idea because they'd be like, why don't we make it two wolves? There's a character who can turn into a wolf in this movie.

So why don't we make it wolves? Because the main girl, the bear. They're like, well, we could just make it not a bear. No. It's a bear. We're going to make it a big demon bear. It's a good looking bear. I mean, it's pretty all right looking.

It's a good looking bear. When it turned up, I'm like, this is a good looking bear. No. It's a bear. We're going to make it a big demon bear. It's a good looking bear. I mean, it's pretty alright looking. It's a good looking bear. When it turned up I'm like, this is a good looking bear. This is the bit where she touches the bear and the fur on the bear moves. That's hard to do. Nice. Probably. Yeah. But the bear, you have a bear in your mind and if you get afraid too much, the bear gets bigger.

But only if you have the mutant abilities to make that manifest. Well, no, because if you don't have the mutant abilities, it's a metaphor for, like, I guess aggression and being sad, I assume. So was any of this movie a metaphor for anything? Yeah. What? Mutants.

Because that's a metaphor for, you know, for the plights in society. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. So at the end, after they kill the one lady in the hospital who's constantly just putting force fields around the place. James, I have a question before we get to that. I don't know. No, I know you don't. But okay, so here's the thing I'm talking about.

They just added some teens mucking about bit. The horrible racist Russian girl who is just racist all the time just to her for no reason. She's like, I've drugged the doctor and she's unconscious. But she's a magic girl, racist Russian. You're also a murderer. So why didn't you just murder her? Yeah, that would have been a good idea.

But do they want to stay so they can be in the X-Men? Is that why? They all want to leave, right? They all want to leave. But? They all want to leave. But also, like, A, she doesn't murder this nurse doctor person, but also they don't even go and check to see if the force field that's protecting the property goes off when she's unconscious. I was unclear whether they knew she was directly responsible for that. I mean, I think there's a scene where she throws one up around one of them

before she tries to kill but I don't know if they all knew that or maybe they did. They did. I'm pretty sure they did, yeah. I mean, I think surely, even if Moonstar doesn't know, surely the other kids would have been like

so instead of being like, hey, let's escape now that this woman's unconscious, they're just like, hey, let's dance and eat some popcorn. Let's have a little fun montage. Then we'll go for different rooms. Because this doctor didn't let us dance or eat popcorn, I guess. She let me tie myself to that cinder block and cannonball around on my rocket legs.

But she wouldn't let us get in a wheelchair and wheelchair it around. The hospital had a bit of fun. Yeah, she works for Essex Corp. They're not about that. No. It's like Professor X's school except slightly less dangerous. Right. Uh-huh.

Yeah, slightly less dangerous, I'll say. The force field, I think, helps in being less dangerous. Yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't. It felt really short. I don't know. Yeah., I don't, I don't, I don't. It felt really short. I don't know. It felt like half a movie. It felt like the Generation X pilot that never really went anywhere. If this did come to TV, I'd be like, yeah, this is a pilot.

Sure, yeah. They'll change some stuff of this before it makes it to series for sure. Yeah, they'll come back and they'll have slightly different haircuts and maybe one of them was recast. That's right. Yeah, I'm up for that. One person will have completely different powers because nobody understood them originally.

So you can't make it a wolf because there's a girl that turns into a wolf. Then you've got two wolves. You get two wolves, yeah. That's why they didn't do it. But then they've got, wait, no, they've only got one bear, haven't they? Yeah. I don't know. I think how it culminates in they kill the lady who trapped them

and then they fight a big bear that's in their mind. That's not an interesting. No. And also it was very vague. Sorry? They team up like X-Men. Well, they do team up like X-Men. I was really hoping for a moment where some, there's a line in it,

I think, where somebody's like, I know what we have to do and I was hoping they'd be like, we have to combine our powers in a clever way, you know, fantastic force style, but they never did. But it was unclear to me as to once the fears were manifested. Yep. Can you kill them? Seems like you could though, right? Yeah, I think so.

But they could probably come back. Or could they come back? I don't know. Right? So you're saying if they killed the bear, would the bear be a bear? Or the men in the mask. Yeah, there seemed to be like a lot of them. Or not enough.

Or Cannonball's fear, which was that his dad worked down the mine or whatever. Was that his fear? Yeah, he blew up or something. Yeah, but then why? Maybe he's not very good, I think. I think, you know, we both saw it. Yeah, that's true. Would you recommend people pay money for this? No, we both saw it. Yeah, that's true. Would you recommend people pay money for this?

No, absolutely not. What about if it pops up on Disney Plus and they hide it in a tab? Yeah, maybe. Under Million Dollar Duck. Marvel Legends or something. Would you say then give it a look-see? There's a lot of wasted potential here in terms of cast and doing a different X-Men movie.

If you've seen everything else on Disney Plus and Netflix and, like, you've listened to all your suggestions on Suggestible and you're like, I've watched and listened to all of that. I don't have anything else to watch, maybe this. And you want to see a big bear. Well, that's the thing. I guess what you could do is just fast forward to the end when there's the big bear.

But do you get the payoff? Do you get that because the twist in this is that it's a big bear? But before the big bear turned up and they're like, something's coming, run to the woods. I'm like, I'm pretty sure this is a big bear. So when the big bear turned up, I was more surprised that they included the big bear due to budget constraints. I'm like, this bear's getting a lot of play.

Maybe they've got a great deal on CGI big bear. Maybe they got some a great deal on CGI Big Bear They might have Well what you do Maybe they got some of that dark Russian money Yeah, yeah, yeah And they finally got the character Bear From the movie Nightwatch Oh yeah Who always constantly threatened to turn into a bear

But never did But this is the unused CGI from that movie Also I guess you could just CGI like A regular sized bear Bigger And yeah, and then you do like a tool to like drag it bigger Yep And people are like Oh, but you didn't pay drag it bigger. And people are like, oh,

but you didn't pay for the full bear. And you're like, well, too bad. You could make a really tiny CGI one so it doesn't cost much. Postage stamp bear. If anything, that's scarier because you'd be like, ooh, there's something in the letterbox for me. Ah, it's a little bear! Ah! It's got red eyes!

Anyway, crap. Yep. Crap movie. Yet another. Not worth the wait. Put it on the big pile of stinkers. Nobody creatively involved with this I blame. No.

I think it's a result of many factors. Right? I mean, you're going to blame Maisie Williams? You're going to be like, hey, Maisie, look over there and act scared because there's a big bear, you know? You can't say it now because we haven't finished it. Pretend to turn into a wolf. Right?

To fight the big bear. Yeah. How did they kill the doctor? The big bear killed her. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Initially, Maisie Williams slashed her all up. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

But then the big bear came and killed her. So you got both the wolf and the bear metaphor. Yeah, because she was going to. That's right. That's right. There's a wolf and the bear metaphor. Yeah, because she was going to, that's right. That's right. There's a wolf and a bear inside everybody. Which one gets bigger? The big bear because it's bigger and psychic powers probably.

And also Maisie Williams, a little gal, you know, turns into a regular-sized wolf. But anyway, yeah, because remember she's going to kill them with her psychic force field bubbles. Oh, yeah, yeah. And then the big bear shows up. The big back of your eye. Yeah, yeah. because remember she's going to kill them with her psychic force field bubbles and then the big bear shows up and they find their foot There's a bit in that where

she's trapped them all in their bubbles but Cannonball's arms are at the top of the force field I thought they were going to do something with that Maybe they were, but there wasn't the budget for it Why do it like that? I don't know Put somebody out who can't do that Like Maisie Williams

because she can't shoot stuff. Right. Like she turns her arm into a wolf. It's like not impressive. Yeah. Anyway, I didn't like it. No, I didn't like it. I didn't like it.

It's a bad movie. It's a shame, isn't it? Yeah. The last gasp of the. Is it better? Okay, but is it better or worse than Dark Phoenix? I'm trying to remember what happened in Dark Phoenix. Yeah, I don't know.

There was the train. The train goes in the air or whatever. Yeah, probably. I think I like more people in Dark Phoenix because they're in, like I like McAvoy and Fassbender. Yeah, right. And I'd seen their characters in previous movies which I enjoyed. And I guess it takes place in locations other than a room.

Yeah. Also, a lot of this movie didn't feel like, it felt like. Remember the bit in Dark Phoenix where they crossed a road? Yeah, it was a big game of Frogger. Yeah, I do remember that. This, like, the hospital room Danny wakes up in doesn't feel like a real room. No. It just feels like, okay, do the set dressing so it looks like an unused hospital room.

A lot of that movie felt like that. This felt like the movie Elektra. Like that era of comic book movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it was bad. It was bad. You know what it's time for? What's it time for? It's time for What We Reading. Oh, what we gonna read. Let's get into that, why don't we?

Well, we've got the opportunity. Nice. I'm doing the thing. Westworld. Really going for it this week. You gotta be in it to win it, Mason. Good for you, James. What are you reading this week? I don't know.

I'm trying to think of something. I'm sure I did. Well, you're watching New Mutants. I know that's a fact. Oh, yeah, we did watch that, didn't we? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I read, and I'm glad I did, Barbaralian. Barbaralian?

Oh, the Don't Tell Me, James, the bloody Black Hammer spinoff. That's right. Nice. So for those who have read Black Hammer, it's good. And for those of you who haven't read it, read it because it's good. It's got a number of spinoff books and whatever. This one follows Barbalian. It's by Tom Bromble, Gabriel Hernandez, Walter, and Jordy Belair.

And Barbalian, for people who don't know, is Martian Manhunter. Yeah, I think he's even named like Mark Marks or something like that. Yeah, yeah. Marky Mark. Marky Mark. So it's set in the 80s during the AIDS epidemic of the 80s. And so Bob Alien or Mark Marks, he's gay and an alien and a cop in this era and his planet hates him and also like a lot of society hates him

and also a lot of cops hate him. Yes. So like all these things like bearing down on him. And it's about like, you know, social conflict and prejudice and all those things. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And like everything in the Black Hammer universe, it's really good. Yeah. And really well fleshed out characters and beautiful art in it.

And it says things. Do you know what I mean? I know. It's like about things. Yeah, I recently caught up on all the Black Hammers. Yeah, it's terrific. So I'm, yeah, so that, yeah. What a great universe.

Pretty good universe. What are they doing with that at the moment? They're doing something with it, aren't they? Probably make a TV show. Yeah. What else were you going to say? I mean, it is all very familiar to comic book fans because everything is kind of like an homage to.

It's a TV series. Here's the thing, though. I think that a lot of this stuff get, like, for me, the closer to the original source it gets, the more the shine comes off it for me. Like, I know you like Dr. Star. Yeah. But that is basically Starman.

But the story it's based, did you read that actual story? Yes, I did, yeah. Oh, so that's what happens in Starman. No, no, not really. Not the whole alien planet thing. Yeah, yeah, and the aging thing and all that. Yeah, yeah. Okay, cool.

It's good. It is a good universe. This is also set in the era where everybody else in his team are running around. Sure. Like this is before they get marooned on that weird farm or whatever. Yeah, when I started this, I'm like, when is this set? Like in this universe? Because it didn't, what happened in the end?

It doesn't matter. Maybe we shouldn't spoil it. No, let's not spoil it. Oh, you know what? I think I mentioned this briefly last week. Oh, yeah. But our friends over at Stupid Old Studios. SOS.

Yes. If you go to Google Maps, you'll see the Aunty Donna boys waving out the window. That's exactly right. Where they live. That's right. That's where they all live. But I mentioned this last week. Over at Stupid Old Studios, they recorded a bunch of stuff sort of during and around pandemic time,

like a bunch of sort of as live as possibly can be shows. I've been watching a bunch of those. Really cool, yeah. So Double Denim, which features Laura Frew and Michelle Brazier, who you see in a bunch of Aunty Donna sketches. Jude Pearl, who is a really, really great musical comedian, has a show called Roommates the Musical, which is really, really good.

She's so talented. Excellent. And friend, I'm going to say friend of the show, friend of me, certainly. Xavier Michaelides has a great show. I've never met Xavier Michaelides. Very nice man. So friends of you. Yes.

Specifically. Friend of half of the show. Friend of half of the show. Really just great, just great, weird stand-up. I guess if you're in a lockdown and you can't be seeing no comedy and you're starved for content, it's probably a good way to go. And as we mentioned, Al and Andy have Magma. They do. Which is really great. And

Annie Louie's stand-up show. It's all good. And if I remember correctly, our friends over at DoGo want to have some stuff over there as well. Yes, they've been doing some live stuff. I think they did one Sunday, the day of recording this. And I've nearly finished Miles Morales' Spider-Man. Oh yeah, I've played a bit more of that. I know people

said, can you do an episode on it? I'm just not getting through it. Too difficult for you, James. Yeah, it's too difficult. No, it's the right amount of difficult for me. But I'm loving it, mate. It's good. I'm loving the feel and the combat and the swinging and all of those things.

It should be fall damage and the story. And I don't need to play Station 5 yet, which is good. So I know people are like, well, the load times, you've got to see it to believe it. I believe it. But like load times itself, I can wait a little bit longer. I did have one glitching issue or two. I had two glitching issues.

One is one point where you appear in a new scene and you can only see like the top of Miles' head and the rest of his body has disappeared. Well, that's his ability. You can do that. Oh, yeah, good point. That is an excellent point. And also at one point I was killed by some bad guys

and my PS4 just locked up and I was just sort of like buried in the ground, just twitching. Did you have to re- I had to switch everything off and start again, James. Yeah. Oh, boo, I hate that. Right? That's what happens with the iPhone, you know what I mean?

When you buy it, a new one comes out and the bloody old one crashes or whatever, I mean. I know exactly what I mean You buy it A new one comes out And the bloody old one crashes Or whatever I mean I know exactly what you mean James Great stuff That's about it I think That's about it Yes Then we should do the letters of the show

Yes Unless I can think of something else Okay You don't have to You've already named some stuff I have named some stuff haven't I Yeah no I have named two things Oh more than that

Because there's all those things That you went through That's true yeah Alright Letters The classic one was Letters Oh letters classic one was letters, oh letters, we love you. Some letters, they're only a take away.

You know they're here right now. We're going to do letters. Hey, man. If you want to send a letter to the show, you can. Hey. Hey. Hashtag, it's well worn off, Mason. I've only got regular water in it.

Oh, my God. Well, you were running on fumes. Hashtag, it's well worn off, Mason. I've only got regular water in it. Oh, my God. Well, you were running on fumes. Hashtag Weekly Planet Pod on Twitter if you want to send through something. Or you could send through email to weeklyplanetpod at email.com. At email.com. At gmail.com. Yeah. And what have you got, Mason?

Okay, I've got a whole bunch. This is from someone who hasn't said, please don't use my name in this, so I'm not going to say it. I'm not going to say it anyway. Okay. It's subject line, three quasi-interesting Christopher Nolan stories. Okay. Hello, gents.

As a 15-year veteran of the trailer industry, I have a few stories about the Noel Meister General, not a real nickname, that you might find interesting. Here we go. Here we bloody go. Okay. It's common for trailer editors and producers to be given scripts Noel Meister General, not a real nickname, that you might find interesting. Here we go. Here we bloody go. Okay. It's common for trailer editors and producers to be given scripts for movies to help plan a campaign, even before shooting begins,

typically couriered or emailed or what have you. For Batman Begins, however, we were driven to the Warrn a lot, relieved of our phones, and placed in a secure room with video surveillance, and we were given 45 minutes to read the script. Your phone from 2004. Right. What are you doing with that?

It's got like eight pixels on it. Yeah, no, you're copying stuff in your notes. Your little notes thing. I guess so. You could put in five lines of dialogue. I mean, you could just remember it. Right. Well, then all mice are general. He's all about security. We're forbidden to take notes. We can only read and remember as best we could and then propose a campaign based on what we

read. For the Dark Knight Rises, after gaining his trust the first time around... Wait, so that was The Dark Knight, not Batman Begins? That was Batman Begins. Okay, yeah. I stand by my phone thing. Sorry, go on. For The Dark Knight Rises, after gaining his trust the first time around,

we were driven to the Hollywood Hills... What happened the second time? ...doesn't say, to a mansion for private screening of the work in progress of the film. It was opulent at home, as you could imagine, with a screening room comparable in every way to any cinema you could hope to visit. After seeing the film, we asked if we could say hello to Christopher. We were told with a chuckle

that this wasn't his home, this was his office. His home was the one three times bigger than this, right above it on the hill. He had purchased this one simply to work out of and walk down whenever he wished to edit or write. Jesus, he must have made bank on the Dark Knight. The third one.

They laughed. They were like, as if he'd live in this shithole. Like you. Fucking idiot. Imagine living in this or something worse than this. Did you see that Matthew Vaughn leak? No. The day after.

Okay, cool. Oh, it's juicy. Even if you remember nothing else about Dunkirk, you must remember the iconic ticking clock sound motif of the first trailer. It won an award for the best use of both ticks and tocks at the Golden Trailer Awards probably. Well, when that trailer was being worked upon, Nolan sent a message to the trailer community

essentially outlining an embargo on the sound of a ticking clock. If any trailer shop used that sound in a trailer for any other movie six months before the release of Dunkirk, he'd never work with them again. Jesus. Pretty good. He says totally normal, not weird stuff at all. That's kind of weird, though.

I mean, he says it's pretty normal. Not weird, but I think it is weird. It's a ticking clock. I think you've been skewed from. The weird big house. Yeah, big house and 15 years in the trailer industry. So, yeah. Oh, that's crazy.

All right. Pretty good, though. Oh, man. You got any stuff? I've got a bunch of letters, but you go first. Yeah, no, well, I was that's crazy. All right. Pretty good, though. Oh, man. I've got a bunch of letters, but you go first. Yeah, no, well, I was just going to bring up that. I did my letter from before. So this is on a Zoom call for an actor. Okay.

And this is allegedly Matthew Vaughan. All right. It was. Talking to an actor. He's doing a Zoom audition. Okay. And this is what he said. He didn't realize he wasn't muted.

Okay. This is what he said about the guy's apartment, which you could see behind the guy. these poor people live in these tiny apartments like i'm looking at his you know background and he's got his tv and um you know yeah i'm muted i know it's a shitty apartment that's why give me this job so i can get a better one all right um ready oh my god i'm so so sorry no it's totally listen i'm living i'm living in a four by four box it's fine just give me the job and we'll be fine so for those who uh heard that and you weren't clear yeah it's basically him trashing this dude's apartment thinking he was on mute on a zoom call edition

which look hey man they're, he hates his apartment. It's not that big a deal, I guess. That's pretty rough. Like, look at this piece of shit idiot, this dumb apartment, trying to earn a living. What an idiot. What an idiot. Yeah.

Do you reckon he's got a Christopher Nolan-esque house? Matthew Vaughan. Yeah. Yeah, probably. I don't reckon he would have that quite, you know, like the one below his recording studio that he bought. There you go. Yeah, so that's fun.

Directors sometimes can be strange, I guess. Yes. This is from VeryMachoNacho. He says, I recently watched 2004's Thunderbirds for nostalgic reasons. That was an adaptation of Thunderbirds, but none of them were puppets. And maybe Bill Paxton or Paulman was in it. I remember that one. And thought that a more mature remake would be pretty great.

Are there any child-orientated properties that you think would make a cool movie if they were more mature? Teletubbies. I think they've done that. There's probably YouTube shorts of that. Oh, yeah, for sure. Like the sun is actually killing them or whatever. But I'm saying put $200 million into it.

Okay, fair enough. For sure. Okay. Do you want to cast it now or do you want to just leave it at that? Statham. Yep. All of them. And the sun.

Yeah. I'm coming to get you. I'm coming to get you. I'm going to get you in there. So I guess Power Rangers comes to mind because of that cool short. After when they gritty up a thing, I'm like, oh, yeah, it's the Muppets, but they're all on drugs. I get it.

They're all heroin addicts. Yeah. But, yeah. Is there a. They're all heroin addicts. Yeah. But, yeah. Is there a market for that really? I don't know. I wonder if it's, you know, if it's something you remember fondly from childhood. I think the number of people who are like, I want it to be gritty

and now and a post-ironic, post-modern thing. I think that market is slimmer than we think. I think, like, they often, well, they tried to do more for comic book stuff. Yeah. You know what I mean? Where it was like Batman, but, well, they still do that, but it's real. Or like the often, or they tried to do more for comic book stuff. Yeah. You know what I mean? Where it was like Batman, but,

or they still do that, but it's real. Or like the Joker, but it's real. It's Jason Statham. It's the, it's the DC Comics real label. Yeah.

It's your stories you love, but it's, it's more real. It's the ancient grandpappy's line. It's Shazam, but he's on heroin. It's real. It's real.

It's very real. So real. Yeah. It's Shazam, but he's on heroin. It's real. It's real. It's very real. So real. Yeah. So, yeah, I guess Power Rangers. I guess I'd like to see another gritty or regular Ninja Turtles movie, how it was in the original comics. But I think that's not – I guess that's more of a deviation from the original cartoon.

I wonder how gritty you could get in a live-action Ninja Turtles movie. Well, I feel gritty, oh so gritty. So for me. Yes. Now there's none left. You're out of Zoom juice, James. But I wonder, because the concept is so inherently ridiculous, how sincerely grim and gritty and violent can you go in live-action?

Prior to this, we've always had either it's the buffer of it being a comic book or animated or you give them catchphrases and they're fun-loving and wacky and that kind of thing if they're in live action. But has there ever been, do you think it would survive a, this is Doug? I think you could do it probably as gritty as the first but nothing beyond that.

Yeah, maybe. And it probably still wouldn't do very well. That's true. I think all of do it probably as gritty as the first, but nothing beyond that. Yeah, maybe. Yeah. And it probably still wouldn't do very well. That's true. I think all of the stuff that people know since then, they're all kids' properties. It's still on Nickelodeon and there's been multiple incarnations and all of them are pretty kid-friendly. You know what I mean?

Yeah. What else, Mason? James, I've got one here. This is a two-parter email. This is from Fergal Ryan. So four days ago. It says, dear James and May, so thanks for all the pods. Just letting you know you'll be keeping me company as South Australia heads into its first full and proper COVID lockdown.

We all wish you well in Victoria during your lockdown. So in return, please send me coffee and croissants from Loon in Fitzroy. I'm probably going to try and make my way through a bunch of big sandwich movie commentaries since I've exhausted all of the book clubs. You absolutely should. And then yesterday, never mind. Oh, yeah, because they came out of it. They're not in lockdown anymore.

It was like six days or whatever. Good on them, man, that you did it. Yeah, that's right. I know there's a lot of places in the world which are grappling with lockdown and whether or not to do it or not. And also I know that's tough because a lot of people are like, I've already been locked down for eight months. And now they're like, we might do a bit of a lockdown.

Anyway, I'm going to do a couple more emails, James. How do you feel about that? I love emails. Great. Great, great, great, great, great. This one says, I lied to a friend and I made a thing. Yeah. This is from Matt.

He says, hey, James and Maceo, my friend Rachel got me to subscribe to the podcast Reply All, and I love it, but I love yours more, so I decided to return the favour and lie to get her to listen to the Weekly Planet. I told her the premise of the show is comics, movies and TV shows, and TV, yep, TV shows, and that on the recent Tenet episode at the letters portion of the show you had special guest Alex Goldman of Reply All call in. She was very confused when Alex did not show up

but thoroughly enjoyed the pod and will continue to listen. There we go. Got you. That's what we need. We need out and out lies straight up. Matt also has a, let's see, he's attempting to become a board game designer and he has a board game on Kickstarter now called Reality Shift. Reality Shifting.

That's right. I've never heard of such a thing. So that's exciting. Oh, cool, excellent. Yeah, so people check that out. I'd be excited to see what that is. I do like board games. I thought I hated board games, but I just realised I hate people.

Oh, yeah, and you have to work with people. Yeah, no. There are board games for one. Did you know that? What? Really? There are, yeah. I don't want that.

Okay. Aren't they called video games? I was going to say video games are better. Yeah. Yeah. So what are you about in board games? I don't. You know, there's someone who doesn't take it seriously or, like,

too seriously, and there's someone who thinks it's dumb and they just say it's dumb the whole time. I will. Look, what I will do, if somebody's like, there's a board game night, what I'll usually do is I'll play, like, I'll be very earnest and I'll play, like, the first round of the game. Yep. And then I'll stop playing and I'll just be on my phone

for the rest of the night. That sounds good. Right? Yeah. Because what I'll do is I'll ascertain what is the minimum be on my phone for the rest of the night. That sounds good. Right? Yeah. Because what I'll do is I'll ascertain what is the minimum number of players for whatever game that is going on. And they'll be like, that's four to six players. And they'll be like, there's five of us here.

And so I'll play the first one. I'll be like, man, this was so fun. I'll get really into it. And I'll be like, this is really cool, guys. And then I'll be like, that's enough for me. Luckily, there's still four of you. So I often do that with poker. Yeah. Like, I'm just like, I'll play a you, so. I often do that with poker. Yeah.

Like I'm just like, I'll play a few hands and then I'm like, I don't care. And then I'll make some ridiculous bet. And you'll lose all your money. I'll lose all my money. And then you'll show back up here and Claire will be like, what did you do tonight? And you'll be like, nothing.

And then she'll be like, well, explain why you're naked but just wearing a barrel with suspenders holding it up. And you'll be like, oh, you know. I'm actually, I'm not terrible at poker. I'm not good. Sure. But I'm good at lying. I'm good at lying to people.

Yeah, like your wife. Like my wife about where I got the barrel from. You went to Crazy Barry's Barrel World. That's right. I was in a barrel rolling down a hill race, Claire. Yeah, that's right. Have you ever heard of that? Yeah. I told you about it. down a hill race, Claire. Yeah, that's right. Haven't you ever heard of that? Yeah.

I told you about it. And I won all this debt. A couple more emails, James. I hope you're ready for these. You know I am. This is from Tyler. Hey, James and Maiso. Canadian listening here, writing in to share a pretty awesome milestone.

11 milestones. In less than a month, I'll be celebrating two years cancer-free and was wondering if I could be named the official Canadian cancer survivor of the podcast. Fuck yeah, that's awesome. If there are other Canadian cancer survivors listening in, I'd be happy to share the title as long as I get to keep it on Mondays. That's when the podcast comes out.

That would be fun if it was like, that is mine. Yeah. Congratulations, Tyler. That's awesome, man. Congrats. That's huge and good news. And I've got one more email here, James, for you. For me?

I mean, it says, hello, lads, so I assume it's for both of us. All right, for me. Anyway, it's subject line, Doobski with the podcast. Okay. Hello, lads. Having been doing online learning and being stuck in my tiny student housing room, I can safely say having a Wendy and listening to you talk is the highlight of my Monday.

I don't know what that means. Neither do I. It's a doob? It's a doob? I guess it's a doob. I don't even really pay attention sometimes. In my opinion, best way to listen. Anyway, love listening to you. It's a dupe. I guess it's a dupe. I don't even really pay attention sometimes. In my opinion, best way to listen. Anyway, love listening to you. It's from Elliot. Smoking weed. Loves a Wendy.

Wendy. Wendy. Wendy's smoking weed. Here we go. Okay. Does Wendy Williams smoke weed? I don't know who Wendy Williams is. She's a talk show host.

Okay, right. Wow. I don't know. I'm just getting a bunch of Wendy Williams results. Well, James, I think't know what the, yeah, I'm just getting a bunch of Wendy Worms results. Well, James, I think we should popularise this then if that's the case. So it's our idea. It's our idea, yeah, yeah. Terrific.

Anyway, congratulations. Congratulations. Congratulations, Elliot. Not a bloody Wendy, mate. Good for you. It's not for me, to be honest. I'm not against it. It's just not really my vibe.

Same. No, but I mean, you know, it's Doopski with the podcast. What you got to do? They go together like a horse and carriage, you know what I mean? They do. Yeah. No, but I mean, you know, doobsky with the podcast. That's what you got to do. They go together like a horse and carriage, you know what I mean? They do. Yeah. Like a bear and a wolf. Like a bear and a wolf battling out for supremacy.

That's all the show, I think. That's the end of the show. End of the show, Joe. That's how you feel. I just got to get out of here. We did it, yeah. Yeah, yeah, nice. Let's take a moment.

Why don't you take us home and I'll read the reviews when we get to that. Okay, everybody, thank you so much for listening. Thank you for telling a friend. Thank you for telling a friend. Thank you for subscribing and liking. And everybody who sends in like a – people will send in like a listener art or they'll send in a letter or things like that. James is just clutching his face. He's resting.

He's resting his face in his hands. I'll skip my head up near the mic because I'm moved to talk in a minute. And if I put my head down, I might – You'll collapse. Yeah, exactly. Or your face will land on your barrel. Who knows? Thanks, everybody, for leaving a nice review.

You got one there, James? Got two, Mason. I'm ready. This is James and Mason killed my parents. Mason said to lie in a review. There it is. Oh, very good. Now I have to put on a different pants because I dropped my big sandwich on them.

So many references. There's a lot of references. Topics. Good solid references there. This one says grateful, but there's an eight in it. It can't be easy to maintain the quality of the show. These many months the way the boys have, they just wrote it normally, and I feel confident in saying we, the listeners, are eternally grateful.

Please don't forget to pay attention to yourselves when you get the moment. The dog is old enough now to watch a baby, eh? How old does a dog have to be to watch a baby? Good question. How many years is a dog's yeah? How old does a dog have to be to watch a baby? Good question. What's in, how many years is a? Dog's eight. Yeah.

Which makes her times seven. Seven eights of 56. That's old enough to watch a baby. Yeah, yeah. But not too old. Did you know I'm excellent at timetables? Yeah. I was a teacher, so you know.

But I'm really good at like unusually good at timetables. Just so people know. So if you ever come at me, I'll be ready. That's right. Yeah, yeah. If you ever get playing poker with James and be ready. That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you ever get playing poker with James and you're crushing him and he's like, hey, how about we make this a times table competition instead? Don't accept it because he will crush you. Yeah, that's right.

Exactly. I'll lose a few to make you feel good. Yeah, that's right. And you'll be like, how about a thousand bucks a times table? And then it's a whole white man can't jump situation. So please, the dog is out for watching baby and keep on trucking. Tramming? You both deserve it.

You deserve the respite and bring to countless others each week. From Frazbot. Thank you very much. That was very kind. And also, that goes to I think everybody out there. I mean, there's a lot of people having rough years and we've been lucky enough to be able to work through this and maintain an audience and people sign up to Big Sandwich and just being generally listening and being nice and we really appreciate you guys.

We really do, yeah. So, yeah. Yeah. It's a two-way street. Yes, absolutely. And thanks everybody for being nice over at the Planet Broadcasting Great Mates Facebook group. Everybody's having a grand time over there.

I agree. It's been really good. But anyway, if you'd like to get a hold of us, you can go to weeklyplanetpod at Gmail, at Facebook, at Twitter, at Bandcamp. We've got all the commentaries and all sorts of stuff. You can also go to planetbroadcasting.com. You can sign up to the newsletter from the great Rob Collings. Editing this.

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You get it delivered to your home. I agree. You can also sign up at bigsandwich.co. As mentioned, $9 a month. You get all sorts of bonus stuff and bonus podcasts and movie commentaries and all kinds of things. We might now try to squeeze in a Wonder Woman commentary before – Oh, yeah, we could do that, couldn't we?

Yeah, good call. So that might be a nice Christmas day. That's right. Or probably a few days prior. We'll figure it out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cool, cool, cool. James, we should do a movie commentary advent calendar.

One commentary every day of the month. I feel like there's enough on there where you could do that. People could do that, don't you think, already? Yeah. Good. So we don't have to do it. We don't have to do it at all. No, no, no.

Part of my brain was like, could I do that? Just imagine your own out there. Day one, some amazing Spider-Man crap we did. Exactly. Yeah, nice. We've got some T-shirts on tpublic.com. That's right. Thank you to the Brutes and the Basilisks and Rackham

for all our musical themes. That's the whole show. What's next week? Don't know. We'll think about that. I honestly don't know. James? What is the topic that you said?

Something about saving franchises. How would you save franchises? How would you save franchises? How would you save a franchise? Who would you bring in? What would you do? Plots and such. Save, revamp, whatever. Keep them brief.

Send us to us on Twitter, weeklyplanetpod.gmail.com or at MrSundayMovies. Maybe I'll start a thread in the Planet Podcast and Great Mates Facebook group. That's a good idea. Yeah, anyway, James, you have a good night's sleep. I will.

And a kombucha. Have a breakfast kombucha. Oh, already? Is it breakfast already? Yeah, it's just about breakfast. Okay, great. See you guys next week. Grab that jammie, guys.

We'll see you real soon. Goodbye. Oh, more Star Wars shit on Caravan of Garbage this week. Oh, yeah, nice. We'll do some Rebel stuff. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network.

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