The Weekly Planet - 37 Edge Of Tomorrow (& Tom Cruise Runs Like A Muppet)

Episode Date: June 9, 2014

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Welcome back, everybody, to another episode hole The Weekly Planet The Weekly Planet Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Weekly Planet Official podcast of ComicBookMovie.com My name is James, Junior Editor at Junior Editor at that website Also known as Mr. Sunday With me as always is my co-host, Nick Mason It's-a me!

Maiso Very good Thank you You pre-planned that? No, it just came to me Brilliant then Yeah, I know, right? If you pre-planned that no it just came to me brilliant then yeah i know right if you pre-planned it not worth it absolutely but but just off the top of the dome wow genius yes yeah it sure is straight to the news may song yes all right you may have heard the uh the ant-man director has been decided upon new ant-man director okay hit me with it edward

edward right left as we know We've talked about this at length. Peyton Reed. You familiar with him? Nope. He did Yes Man with Jim Carrey where Jim Carrey was like, I'll say yes to everything. My career's not over. He's alright. He does alright, right?

He did with I Love You Philip Morris, right? He was in Kick-Ass 2. Oh yeah, he did. That's true. I haven't seen I Love You Philip Morris. Neither have in Kick-Ass 2 oh yeah he did that's true I haven't seen I love you Philip Morris neither have I but I hear it's good

but he's you know he's got a billion dollars at this point so it doesn't matter he's fine he's alright it was good

you know good on him he also did The Breakup with Jennifer Aniston and Vince Vaughn where they broke up he was in that really no no he directed it

oh wait we're talking about the director here oh okay not Jim Carrey I was going to say where did Jim up he was in that really no no he directed it oh wait we're talking about the director here oh okay not Jim Carrey I was going to say where did Jim Carrey was he the wacky neighbour he was the wacky neighbour

and he also did Bring It On they're probably they're all in my top 5 favourite films you? um yeah they're 1, 2 and 3

they are yeah you're right actually that's a good point yeah and I've left the numbers 4 and 5 slots for the next 2 films he does. So Ant-Man and whatever the next thing is.

Jim Carrey builds an ark. Correct. Or whatever. No, they did that, didn't they? Yeah, yeah. With Steve Carell. Yeah, I mean, it's... Bad, right?

Yeah, I don't want to say it's bad, because none of those movies are bad from memory. I mean, a lot of those movies aren't for me. Yeah. Like, Bring It On is not for me. Yes Man was okay. I didn't really love it. Actually,, Bring It On is not for me. Yes Man was okay. I didn't really love it. Actually, I didn't mind The Breakup. I thought it was okay.

Uh-huh. But, yeah. None of those are even close to being a Marvel movie or a special effects movie. Or an action movie. I think this ties into what we were talking about last week, though. They've probably got everything lined up, ready to go. Yes. They're like, this action scene is going to play out like this, this, and this.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're going to get these beats and whatever. It might just be, I mean, something like Yes Man, you know, those kind of films. Yeah. Maybe it's just a case of they, you know, he's just a guy who the studio says, well, we need to do this. And he's like, I can get that done. Yeah. So maybe it's just like, yeah, like you said, you know, we've got the camera operators and the cinematographers and the sets and the blah, blah, blah. Yep.

And they just need a guy to say, okay, let's get it moving. Let's do it. Yeah, yeah. Break for lunch. Yep. All right. Also, there's going to be some script involvement from Adam McKay, who, of course, we talked about last week. Yeah, yeah.

Turn it down, Anchorman and whatnot. So it's not the most ideal situation. Absolutely not. I'm hoping it's going to be really good but even if it is really good I'd still I'd still in the back of my mind I'm kind of like

I wish I knew what Edgar Wright was going to do with that me too which is yeah which again is going to be a problem forever

that is it's only going to be the problem will only go away for me like that itch in the back of my mind if the movie comes out and then Edgar Wright says

you know what this is pretty much exactly what I would have done yeah like it's a shame it didn't work what, this is pretty much exactly what I would have done. Yeah. Like, it's a shame it didn't work out, but this was set up exactly how I wanted it and it's played out exactly how I wanted it. Yeah. Otherwise, I'm just going to assume it was a disaster.

Cool. All right. Well, you know what? It was naive of me to think this. You're very naive. You're a babe in the woods. Somewhere inside me, I'm like, maybe they'll all work out. And they'll be like, Edgar Wright comes back.

And they figure it out. I know, it's ridiculous. You know what got me thinking that, though? Because of the Dan Harmon community thing. I'm like, it happened one time in the history of Hollywood. Maybe it can happen again. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nope.

So there you go. We'll just be all at the bleachers, you know? It'll be raining and sad And just We just hear like One slow clap Building up And then people Would start going

Edgar Edgar And we see him Walking slowly towards the The lot You know In an ideal world If only

And then he kicks The winning field goal Right? Yep Great Movies Touchdown Touch up No down Down Good That's a different thing An ideal world. If only... And then he kicks the winning field goal. Right? Yep. Great. Movies. Touchdown. Touch up.

No, down. Down. Good. That's a different thing. All right. We've got another Marvel film, though, Mason, that's been confirmed. Ooh. Doctor Strange.

Okay. Confirmed. With a director and all. Yeah, go ahead. Scott Derrickson. He directed Yes Man. Co-directed, sorry. Yes Man.

That cut. No, that's not no, none of those He's more of He does a kind of A darker affair Do you see Sinister With Ethan Hawke Where he's like

This monster in the photos Is coming to get me And it was called Bagul It was kind of creepy Bagul Yeah, because he like There was all these family photos And there's a

In the spirit of Whatever this creature is Lives in the photos And when you start noticing it It starts to come into real life or something. It sounds like a very cheap, like, like a ripoff of a Japanese thing.

Yeah. But also, yeah. Like, like that, that last wave of kind of the grudge or whatever. Sure. Or paranormal activity,

like the wave of really cheap. I would say it's, it's a, it's a touch, it's a shade above those. Okay. From what I've seen of it. Yeah.

Yeah. It's, it's got some genuinely crilling, um, crilling and chilling. It's covered in krill. Okay, alright. From what I've seen of it. Yeah, yeah. It's got some genuinely krilling and chilling moments. It's covered in krill. You open it up and the DVD's just filled with krill. My worst nightmare, yeah. He also did The Day the Earth Stood Still for Keanu Reeves. Oh yeah, I remember that one, yeah.

That was pretty nothing, I think. Yeah, yeah. And he also did The Exorcism of Emily Rose, which I didn't see, which apparently wasn't okay. I don't care for those exorcism films. No, but I mean that's got... It wouldn't give a shit.'t care for those exorcism films. No, but I mean, that's got... I wouldn't give a shit. This does sort of give us some clues

to where it's going to go. Like, this doesn't sound like it's going to be Thor kind of magic, where it's technology and, you know, weird magic ray guns or whatever.

Yeah, yeah. And it's just technology that they believe, you know, it's indistinguishable from magic. This sounds like it's going to be more of a kind of a

gothic horror kind of creepy. Yeah, like a Constantini kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, okay. More along the lines of... But also he did a Hellraiser Inferno, which I haven't seen. Well, that's probably the best of the Hellraisers. Is it? I don't know.

They're all probably exactly the same. Sure. Right? Doesn't he go to space? There is a Hellraiser in space. That's probably the best. They always go to space. They do.

Jason X, he went to space. You've got to get there eventually. You know, for Crocodile Dundee 3... I'm listening. That was one of the pitched scripts for that was in space. Huh. How does that even work? I mean, talk about your fish-out-of-water scenario.

Absolutely, yeah. He's, yeah. I love how they're like the natural progression. Okay, we'll get him in this US, and then we'll get him into space. Like, that's like the next That's the final frontier Sure For Australians, certainly

Yeah, you're right Yeah No Australians ever been in a bloody space, mate Do you think our American listeners can distinguish between My regular accent and my Oka Outback Australian accent? I don't think people can distinguish between us

Let alone Your variations of Australian accents I don't think people can distinguish between us, let alone your variations of Australian accents. I don't know. I think some people maybe. Can you distinguish different American accents? Sort of. Yeah. I mean, we know our New York accents.

Of course, yes. They've got some names floated, though, for this role. First of all, though, is there more room for another arrogant genius billionaire who learns a lesson about being a hero? I'd say he's a millionaire at best. Good point. You got me. So yes.

It's probably fine. Yeah, he learns a bit of humility. That's a really good point. I would say on the face of it, it's really... If you didn't see the armour or the cloak, it would be hard to distinguish Tony Stark and Stephen Strange

in a lot of cases. You're going to have to cast somebody obviously who looks kind of different. Yeah, there's going to be... You're right, they're both arrogant geniuses who suffer a loss and then have to rebuild with some humility. A lot of people, like Spider-Man, I guess, is that, in a way.

But he's poor. Yeah. What a dickhead. That's right. Okay, you have some casting options. Jared Leto? He's back in the big way. You don't like him?

Too baby-faced? Yeah. Did you like him when Brad Pitt knocked like him? Too baby-faced? Yeah. Did you like it when Brad Pitt knocked all his teeth out in Fight Club? Yeah, okay, good, great. Tom Hardy? I guess he's back. Jared Leto's back because he was in Dallas Buyers Club, right? Yeah, exactly.

I've got that. I've got to watch it. Apparently it's amazing. And he's amazing in that, particularly. Tom Hardy? Okay. Yeah? Yeah, okay.

If he can... I mean, if he's still got that Bane physique, no. But I assume he's given up on that because it's been a couple of years. Yeah, okay. If he can... I mean, if he's still got that Bane physique, no. But I assume he's given up on that because it's been a couple of years. Yeah, yeah. It must be hard to slim down from that, though, right? Because you'd be all saggy. Yeah, that's it. If you take a look at modern-day Arnold Schwarzenegger.

And I do. No, there was some set photos of him released recently where he's the older Terminator. He looks quite good. He's like a grey-haired Silver Fox Terminator. Wow. So, yeah. Old money Terminator. He looks quite good. He's like a grey-haired Silver Fox Terminator. Wow. So, yeah. Old money Terminator. He's got a yacht, the Terminator.

The last one was a... Polo Club Terminator. This is my favourite, the last one, which means I probably won't go with it. I feel like I can never pick these casting choices. Names float up, and so often, nothing happens of it. Have you noticed that? Benedict Cumberbatch.

I don't know if I like it. Really? Yeah. Okay. I don't know, maybe it's just the... Is it the Buffon? It's the Buffon. He doesn't have a lot of contrast in his face.

Okay. Like he's all... His face is a bit monochrome. Featureless? He's a little... Yeah, I don't know. That's, yeah. Yeah, he does kind of look like a tad. He's a little, yeah, I don't know. Yeah. He does kind of look like a tadpole with a wig.

A white tadpole with a wig. Correct. I don't know, I think he's kind of, seeing what he's done with Sherlock. I don't like any of those casting choices is basically what I'm saying. Okay, fair enough. Well, back to the drawing board, Marvel. Get it together. Yeah, the thing is I'm kind of, I would be interested to see this sort of... This gothic horror kind of direction.

Yeah. But at the same time, I want to be him flying through crazy dimensions and shooting lasers out of his hands. I'm thinking that's where it's going. Good. I think they've slowly been building to this wacky space magical kind of thing. Great. And phase three this is, by the way. Obviously.

That's where they're really going to explode. This kind of situation. You know? Yeah, this whole situation. Especially because they're probably not... Well, at this point, there's no Iron Man 4, so. Yeah. All right.

Maybe they'll just switch them out and, you know. Well, yeah, that's what I'm thinking. I think it's kind of like, they don't know what they're going to do with Robert Downey Jr. in the future or whatever. There's rumours that he's going to be killed off in Age of Ultron and whatever. Though I think he is in Avengers 3.

I think he's booked in for that. So they need other people to carry it. And Chris Evans has clearly stepped up. I would say behind Robert Downey Jr. now he's the most successful. Yeah, yeah. And I guess, you know, storylines always have certain archetypes.

You know, they call it the five-man band. Like you've got, you know, you've got the hero, Luke Skywalker. You've got the... You've got the guy on the cymbals. Yeah... You've got the guy on the cymbals. Yeah, you've got the guy on the cymbals. Thank you. In between his knees.

Yep. But you've got, like, the Lancer, who's, like, the rebellious second-in-command Han Solo, and et cetera, et cetera. You're talking, like, Lance from Voltron? Lance from Voltron. Thank you. Is that what that refers to? Yeah, maybe.

Good. Yeah. And et cetera, et cetera. Yeah. You've got the girl. You've got the girl. Yep. Yeah.

Who is Hawkeye? Hawkeye's the girl. That's right. Because he's the only one with the, what did you say? He's got the female costume. Yeah, he's got the exposed arms. Yeah. He shows the most skin in the, well, the Hulk, but that doesn't count.

No. Yeah. That'd be, that's too much. It was a lady. Yeah. Bad news. I feel like this is all bad news. The dog's trained.

That's good news, right? Yes. I wouldn't even say, no, look, Ant-Man's not bad news. Yeah. I this is all bad news. The Dog Strange, that's good news, right? Yes. I wouldn't even say... No, look. Ant-Man's not bad news. I would say it's news. Because we knew they were going to replace it. Whoever they picked.

Unless they were like, this is Edgar Wright's identical twin brother. Yeah. Who's also a really good filmmaker. Yeah. Like, yeah. Anyway, sorry. Sometimes they swap in and out. They've been doing it for years.

Crazy hijinks. No one's ever even noticed. Just like that movie about wizards battling with Hugh Jackman. Wizard Battle. Yeah, Wizard Battle, yeah. What's it called? The Prestige. Prestige. Yeah, okay, right. Spoiler alert for that really old film. Fuck it, who cares? Yeah, terrible. People love that movie.

It falls apart at the cloning machine. Yeah, it really does, yeah. Alright, Arkham Knight. That's why I think they brought in David Bowie as Nikola Tesla. Because he's magic. No, but more that this bit we know doesn't make any sense. It ruins it. But if we throw in David Bowie, people are like, oh, cool, it's David Bowie.

He's great. And we'll just gloss over it. We'll just let it ride. We didn't let it ride. No. There was another one at the same time with... The Illusionists. Scarlett Johansson and Edward Norton, yeah.

Was it Scarlett Johansson? No, she was in The Prestige. It was Jessica Biel. You're right. Who cares? Bloody magical mid-2000s movies in automation. I'm very sorry. Yeah.

Arkham Knight. Yep. Much anticipated Arkham game. It's been delayed until 2015. Is that a bad sign? No, it's a good sign, generally. In video games, it's a good sign. For example, Jupiter Ascending, which was due out July,

the next Wachowski failure. That looks good. Yeah, look, sure, it probably will be. Having recently seen the trailer, before I watched Edge of Tomorrow, or did I, it looked really good. I agree. Yeah, yeah, look, I'm okay with it,

but I think they're worried it's going to like John Carter because in a sea of familiar properties, then you've got... You're right, it's an original property. It's not based on a comic book. It's not based on a TV series. It's not based on a book. It's not a remake. It's been too long since Wachowskis have had a hit.

Yeah, yeah. The Matrix 3, which if you'd even consider that a hit, which I do not. Yeah, because then it's Speed Racer. Yeah, yeah. But I mean, the Matrix came out of nowhere. They can strike gold twice. I'm not saying they can't, but if it's being pushed back to February,

that is not a good month for movies. All right. So that's all I'm saying, especially when it looks very expensive. I don't see... I would argue that pushing back a video game is not necessarily a good sign. Really?

Like Watch Dogs, which has just come out. Oh, yeah. That was originally going to be, I think, a third or fourth quarter 2013 game. And that was pushed back to now, like end of May now, 2014. Yeah. And the reviews of that, it's kind of okay. Yeah. People like it.

Yeah. People are like, well, it's fine. It's kind of like Grand Theft Auto with a hacking phone. Yeah. It's Grand Theft Auto, but instead of driving around all the time, you're looking at your phone all the time. So it's life. It's life.

Yeah. It's a simulation of life. It's a next-gen simulation of life. Great. Yeah, look, Watch Dogs for me, it's not something that's going to make me buy one of those next-gen. No, I'll buy it on previous gen, I think. Yeah, that's it.

If I do at all. Well, Batman was going to be the reason I was going to buy a PS4, so now I'm just going to wait that out. Yeah, it'll be cheap again. Even cheaper. Yeah. I'm playing so... I don't even play video games at the moment. I feel like I've played everything.

Like, I see Watch Dogs, I'm like, that looks pretty good, but I feel like I've played that. Every shooter that comes out, I've played it. With the exception of, like, there's a lot of indie games I know that doesn't all fall into this, but I don't play a lot of those games. I would say 90% of the games I play are kind of third-person sandbox shooters. So I've... And I do, and I'm like, ooh, there's new characters.

Oh, I wonder how the guns handle, whatever. Yeah. And then after a while, I get maybe half to two-thirds of the way through the game, and I'm like, I get it. It's fine. I understand. And it really was just a new skin over the same stuff. Yeah, absolutely.

Yeah, yeah. And I think people are feeling that, maybe with Watch Dogs. Yeah. It's, you know, it's Grand Theft Auto-ish. Yep. And it's got a packing mechanic to it. Yep. And, like, it's solid, solid mechanics and whatever, but, but you know it is what it is now mason

i wanted to just briefly address game of thrones okay there was a big game of thrones thing that happened during the week and i wanted to talk about it yes obviously knowing that you haven't watched game of thrones yet right yep but i just wanted to say you're a dickhead and you should watch game of thrones because i want to. Right, because you texted me late last week. Unreasonably. No, it's not unreasonable. But you said, hey, having known that I'm three episodes into season one of Game of Thrones, you said, hey, can you watch all of Game of Thrones in two weeks? And I worked it out.

I would have had to watch three episodes a day for two weeks. Yep. Right. I can't watch three episodes a day of something that I like. Like M.A.S.H. Yeah, like M.A.S.H., exactly. Still working your way through M.A.S.H. Oh, boy. Eleven seasons. yep right I can't watch three episodes a day of something that I like like mash yeah like mash exactly still working your way

through mash oh boy 11 seasons when it gets serious at the ends of every episode there's no laugh track in the surgery no there's not

but yeah and if I skip a day I've got to watch six episodes a day I agree I totally agree yeah I'll get to it I'll start at some point

because when the season ends in two weeks yeah I was hoping a new episode I'll just bringing this up to say I should have let you know many weeks ago.

Months and months ago. Months and months ago. But I don't understand what I mean. Who knew that crazy revelations were going to happen in Game of Thrones? I did

and I haven't watched it. I know that that's what happens in that show. Maybe tweet at Mason and tell him to watch that. Don't do that. Leave him alone.

Or we could do an episode where I leave the room and you just talk to yourself. Anyway, something, something, Game of Thrones, something. Did you have news there? No, I just wanted to be like, I want to talk about Game of Thrones, but I can't. Hey, folks, just email James and give him your thoughts on Game of Thrones

and he'll email back because he's desperate to talk to people about it, apparently. It's maybe what he loves, Game of Thrones. People at your work and that, they're all talking about it. I'm not against Game of Thrones. It's just that it's hard to interact with people about Game of Thrones if you haven't watched any. And I know it's good.

I've seen, look, I know everybody's great on it and there's dragons and there's the lady with the white hair and she wears lots of nice dresses. Like, I know that much. A lot of nice dresses. Yeah. It's like the Star Wars prequels. Yeah, yeah. Lots.

But... It's probably the best show, or one of the best shows on television at the moment. And if you're watching, like, Orphan Black, which is fine, just swap that out for Game of Thrones. All right, fine. So I'm saying, don't be watching Orphan Black. It's a good show. It's all right.

How dare you. I'm up to date. Yep. It wasn't our What We Reading. It was, yeah. That's all right so i'm saying don't be watching orphan black it's a good show it's all right how dare you i'm up to date yep it wasn't our what we reading it was yeah that's all right mason we've got some more we did an episode last week on star wars spinoffs very popular episode people enjoyed the star wars great we would have thought that one of the most successful franchises of all time would have fans weird right yeah really weird um so yeah they announced another director for another spinooff movie. Hit me with it. Is it somebody we know? If this is somebody whose name I don't recognise,

I'm smashing this whole operation right now. Because I'm sick of these. I'm sick of you being like, oh, there's a new director announced for Doctor Strange. And I'm like, who is it? And you're like, it's Johnny Smithton. And I'm like, who is... No! It's not a real person.

You're just making words up. Should I say the person and the thing that they're most known for? Yes. Okay. I think you'll just know this guy. Josh Trank. He invented the tranquilizer gun. He did?

Yeah. Yes. Refresh my memory. What did Josh Trank do? Chronicle. I swear we have this conversation every time. Yeah. Every time I say Josh Trank and and you say who and I say Chronicle

and you go haven't seen it. And I go I know. You haven't given me a chance. Maybe I have seen it in the interim. Go ahead. Have you seen it?

No. It's good. I know. You say that every time. Now that I remember this conversation that we have every time. What's he done besides that?

That's it. He's going to do oh there's something he's doing in between. He's doing Fantastic Four. That's right. We do talk about this guy a lot, actually. Constantly, yeah.

Do you feel I should get some sort of Josh Trank tattoo on my body, like in Memento? Yes. So every time you're like, Josh Trank, I'm like, I remember that. And I can look at it and be like, oh, Josh Trank. Chronicle. Chronicle. Haven't seen it. Haven't seen it.

Right. Haven't seen it underneath. And then I can tape a copy of the Chronicle DVD. No, I can tape a USB to my arm and it's got Chronicle on it and. Haven't seen it. Haven't seen it. Right. Haven't seen it underneath. And then I can tape a copy of the Chronicle DVD. No, I can tape a USB to my arm and it's got Chronicle on it and then I can watch it. Brilliant. Draven C wrote in, friend of the show. He said, do you guys really feel like these directors? So we've got Josh Trank.

We've got the guy who... Wait, who's Josh Trank? We've got the guy... We've got the guy who did Chronicle. Oh, not Chronicle. Godzilla. What's his name far out man

we just did an episode on that doesn't matter him yeah him Dustin Diamond that's him he goes

do you really feel like these are the best directors we can get like he's saying that I'm assuming he's alluding to they're not that proven

as of so far which I guess is true Josh Trank has only done Chronicle which is a found footage superhero movie sure sure that is it yep though he done Chronicle, which is a found footage superhero movie. Sure, sure. That is it.

Yep. Though he did do a Star Wars kind of found footage short film a few years ago. Yeah, okay. Which I'm sure... Which it's okay. It's like a house party mixed with kind of Star Wars and stuff. Okay, interesting. It's all right.

And obviously the guy, the other guy I mentioned did Godzilla, which some people enjoyed, some people didn't. And Monsters... Rodzilla is his name. Rodzilla is his name. Rodneyzilla. Yeah, but I mean, I see this as, I hear those names though, and I go, well, no, they're not exactly proven, but I'd rather get them than like, even like Spielberg, be like, Spielberg's

doing it. Spielberg's fine, he's great, whatever. But I'd rather see somebody with a newer vision and whatever do something like this. Yeah, I think, yeah, talking about are these the best names we can get? I think, yeah, talking about are these the best names we can get, I think probably yes. I mean, you talk about, yeah, Spielberg. Spielberg or maybe James Cameron or something like that. Like if you talk about the biggest names in Hollywood,

they're probably not going to take on something that they haven't had a huge hand in creating probably. Like James Cameron. James Cameron didn't grow up on Star Wars movies yeah you know he was a man before this came out these guys have yeah yeah and they but and they they want to create their own thing like Avatar or whatever yeah they they don't want to be beholden to somebody else's ideas yeah like especially you know superhero stuff or whatever yeah they probably don't think it's beneath them but they'd be like well how about I put my own spin on that

and it's probably not going to be you know they'd want Spielberg might want to have layers of meaning and themes and metaphors father son stuff or whatever Reese's Pieces you'd want to turn all the Repulsor Rays and Thor's Hammers into

walkie talkies but it's not going to the Marvel Studios I would assume don't want that yeah they want to be like well here's the characters

they have certain characteristics we want them to you mean Lucasfilm yes or just mean in general any property yeah

so gone yeah and you know we just want them to run with the characters and have them be consistent so we can sell action figures yeah

yeah okay cool so Draven Mason yes you're wrong wow the characters and have them be consistent so we can sell action figures yeah yeah okay cool so draven mason yes you're wrong wow does he say that or is he asking no he's just like do you feel like it's the best we can get pretty much so yeah and i don't see that as a negative yeah yeah i'm with you yeah yeah i think in many ways we do need some people who you know they've got they've got good ideas in terms of cinematography or special effects or action set pieces or whatever. Yeah.

But who will work inside the sandbox, sort of thing. Sure. Good point, Mason. Thank you. You've nailed it. Second time I've said sandbox today in two different contexts. I hate sandboxes. They're weird and gross.

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I had to ask you before the show I was typing it up and I was like was it like it's the man from the past? Because it's a terrible title let's talk about that and we have talked about it before

but it is a terrible title Yeah It was based on some sort of Japanese It says light novel yeah does that mean you need is kill all you need is kill which is quite a good title but every time you hear it i go all you need is kill bang bang bang bang bang great what's a light novel is that like a manga or is it like an actual novel i'm assuming it's like a novel like a shortish kind of novella kind of thing yeah probably yeah yeah but the the original one of the proposed titles apparently

was live die repeat which is on the tagline which is much better right it gives you like a sense of what

the movie is about right and I mean Edge of Tomorrow when you think about it he is he's on the edge of tomorrow

he's constantly on the edge of tomorrow but it doesn't it could be any film ever you're right and you know what though somebody made this point a few weeks ago they wrote in

we're getting like Age of Ultron yep Rise of whatever do you know what I mean like it's always what's that Transformers one called? Age of Extinction

yeah exactly do you think this is a push from the big OV lobby Hollywood's big OV lobby like you know all the words have lobbies and OV's got a whole bunch of money behind's big of lobby like you know all the words have have lobbies and all's got a whole

bunch of money behind it like let's let's get all into some stuff let's do it yeah so terrible title this is shame yeah well look speaking of like

speaking of all they've gotten to you too you son of a bitch this used to be about the podcasting or whatever we do here whatever vague format we loosely stick to.

It's opened third behind The Fault in Our Stars, where Shailene Woodley has cancer or whatever. Okay, yep. It's hard to beat that most of the time. Yeah, that's it. You can't. And Maleficent, which was carried over from last week, it's going to make, they say, they'd be lucky to make an estimated 30 mil.

I'm surprised that it's not doing that good. But considering that competition, it does make sense. To put it in perspective, last year, Oblivion made 37 million. Oh, this is US domestic, by the way. Oblivion made 37 million in its first week with very little competition.

Yeah, yeah. So... Does this feel like competition, though? I mean, to me, there is no choice very little competition. Yeah, yeah. So... Does this feel like competition, though? I mean, to me, there is no choice between Edge of Tomorrow and Maleficent and Fault in Our Stars, Cancer, something, something. No, but if you're, say, going to the movies, right, you would see that Tom Cruise movie because it's completely inoffensive and you're like, oh, I get this. This is kind of safe.

It's a safe choice if those other two weren't there. Right. Just with those options. You're saying they're all safe choices? No, I'm saying they split demographics. So you get the younger crowd, in particular young women going to Maleficent and Fault in the Stars. And even guys would probably go see Maleficent because it's got action and witches and shit. Dragons and stuff.

Whatever. Yeah. I have no interest in that. But the Fault in Our Stars, I actually started reading that earlier this week. I thought, what's it all about? Or whatever. It's a fine book and all that. I like to try different, not just comics every now and then. Sure, absolutely, yeah. But it's not for me, do you know what I mean? Because I'm not a 16

year old girl, you know. Thanks Christ. You know, different audiences. So it's taken a bit of a hit. So it's not doing that great. No. Well, it was predicted to bomb. I don't think it's going to bomb. Well, it's okay, right?

What did you think of it? Bearing in mind that you also were baiting me whether or not you'd actually see it. Well, here's the thing, and you don't know yet. See, for those new listeners, there are certain big-name films that I will see. Like an Avengers movie comes out, I'll see an Avengers movie. But these are some little films that make very little impact on the entertainment landscape. Like your 300 Rise of an Empire?

Yeah, exactly. They're not required viewing for some sort of larger movie continuity or anything like that. Ultimately, it doesn't matter if I've seen them or not. And my question, my test to myself is, one day James is going to ask me to review one of these films, and I'm just not going to see it. And I'm going to see how long I can go in the podcast without him noticing that I haven't seen it.

Like, I'm just going to bluff my way through and see if he picks up on it. So maybe I've seen this one, maybe I haven't. Actually, part of me also thought, what if I don't see it? Then they flipped the switch. But then imagine this whole conversation. A elaborate double bluff. We were both just talking about this movie that we haven't seen. Okay, no, that's...

Oh, that'd be so good. That would be. But no, I did see it. Everyone would stop listening. Yeah, me too. I did too. Shut up! He's winking! Yep but um okay let's talk about it yeah what did you think of it if you saw it yeah i could i think i was mentioning this to you earlier i knew i was gonna have to review this and i realized that having even having done this for several months i've never i don't

know how to review something so i looked up some reviews of the film. Okay. And people are divided on it. Some people are saying, well, this has reinvigorated Tom Cruise's... This is what the role he's born to play and this is amazing and blah, blah, blah. And some people are like, boy, Tom Cruise really needs to pick better roles

because he's just phoning them in, just picking these lackluster blah, blah, blah. Even if you think this is a lackluster movie, which I don't think it is. I think it's okay. He puts it all into this kind of stuff, physically at least.

Look, I think it was very watchable. I think it was entertaining. I'm not sure if I'd ever go back to it. Okay, yeah. This is where you give your score. You go like,

B plus! Because you're doing a proper review now. Oh, yeah. You're a proper movie. No, really. I didn't write any notes down or anything. I thought about it. Maybe next time I'll do it. B plus because you're doing a proper review now oh yeah you're a proper no that's not really I didn't write any notes down or anything

I thought about it maybe next time I'll do it this time I'm just don't do it why mess with whatever formula we have yeah I think the two leads

are very charming I think they chemistry is good what chemistry they have what chemistry they're capable of having well that's it and that's

that's more down to him I would say with Tom Cruise it's kind of a staple of him is he's very forced in his chemistry they're capable of having. Well, that's it. And that's more down to him, I would say. With Tom Cruise, it's kind of a staple of him is he's very forced in his chemistry. He comes across as forced to me and he's got this kind of weird, dead-eyed intensity. Right, but I think that worked in this film because his character is sort of this...

He's a career major in the army, but he's the PR major. Yeah, he's a smug, smooth kind of... He's a smug guy and he's smooth and like he's not he's not necessarily genuine to anyone he meets and i think that's yeah that worked well yeah i i completely agree it's like this movie was built for him yeah yeah look like we do every week we're not going to do spoilers to start with because but it's one of those movies if you've seen the trailer you know the premise where basically every time he dies he comes back

and he gets to relive the day. That is in the trailers. But we'll talk about the... He's a man who's not... has avoided combat his whole life. He's forced into this... He's drafted this combat situation against this alien force that's invaded Earth. He dies and then he keeps coming back.

And he sort of has to figure out why and, you know, live, essentially. If we were a proper review show, I'd say, and here's a clip, and then there'd be a clip. Oh, we could do that. Just audio. Just audio from the trailer. People do that all the time. I know, right?

On the radio especially you hear that. It's weird because just watch it on YouTube now. Just explain it. Watch it on your phone immediately. It's fine. That's what it should do. That's what we should say. Watch it on your phone, assholes, if you have it.

That's right. Oh, that should be our catchphrase. Watch it on your phone, assholes. Pretty good. Okay. That's right. Oh, that should be our catchphrase. Watch it on your phone, assholes. Pretty good. Okay, we'll remember that for the next week. Yeah, in terms of the premise, and again, I've mentioned this, I think, before, that I like the idea in a sci-fi or a fantasy film

that there's one weird thing. Yeah. Like you can have time travel, or you can have people with telekinesis, but you shouldn't have both, because then it's terrible. Because it's Looper. Because it's Looper. Because it's Looper and it's terrible.

It makes you feel like there is inconsistencies with one part of the plot. And they're like, well, just give them telekinesis and it'll be fine and sort everything out. I always think it's very half-assed. Are you talking about unless it's like a full-blown magical fantasy Harry Potter thing? Yeah, it's like the Marvel Universe where you can have magic and super soldiers and whatever all together.

Because it's just taken as given that the world is super weird. But you're talking if you've got a sci-fi movie set in the real world, you pick one element and you stick to it. Like Terminator's time travel. And robots, I guess. That's fine. But yeah, and this one sort of has two. And when going into this, I'm like, well, it's going to be... There's this time loop thing and there's sort of Starship Troopers-esque powered armour. But I didn't think the powered armour was that much of a plot point.

I don't think it ruined it. I think that was largely incidental. I thought you could have just had them as soldiers and it would have worked fine. And that's mostly what it was. That was an excuse for, you know, do people have guns? Howitz has come out of the back and blow some stuff up and it looked pretty impressive. But it didn't overwhelm them. It just kind of felt like they'd kind of modernized D-Day, pretty much.

Yeah, kind of, yeah. It felt like they're kind of saving Private Ryan for the future. Yeah, you could have said it. You could have said it in World War II. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Just against the Germans and something, something, time loop, something. But yeah, I thought the premise worked.

And again, it's a premise that doesn't really make sense. No. But they've built a rule and they've applied the rule. Yes. So Tom Cruise acquires this ability. This keeps happening unless X, which we will talk about in the spoilers and then that was stuck to and applied to

and it worked so I'm fine with it for me I was really happy you get a Tom Cruise running scene five minutes in it's very early that's not a spoiler right? no we know he's going to run

do you feel like it had all the classic Cruise tropes? Muppet Run Yeah, absolutely, yeah. That's not a spoiler, right? No, we know he's going to run. Yeah, that's right. Do you feel like that it had all the classic Cruise tropes? Muppet Run, right? Yeah, Muppet Run, sure. Motorcycles. There was a motorcycle. There was a motorcycle. He gets to ride a motorcycle. Yeah, Force Cabbage do all those other things.

Could you tell that Tom Cruise thing again? Because you told it in an earlier episode. But again, I felt he was quite a good presence in the film. I agree. I like Tom Cruise. You know, you expect certain things from him and he delivers them. I would never say that I've seen him in a movie where he's bad in it. He's watchable.

He's very watchable, even though he's a weird kind of space priest or something in real life or whatever. But anyway, so I heard this some or other yeah regarding tonkers and motorcycles apparently what happens sometimes is he'll he needs to go to a movie studio for a meeting or what have you yeah and he'll drive up in his motorcycle and park his motorcycle he's very cool he gets off he goes into the building to sit do his whips off his ray-bans you know he does uh and then he's got like, you know, like he's followed closely behind by a van. And it's got like maybe his management or, you know, minders or security or Scientology people or whatever in it. And somebody gets out of the van.

They get on the motorcycle. They walk it around and reverse it. So when he comes out of the meeting, he can just get on the motorcycle and drive forward straight out. He doesn't have to back it out and be kind of awkward. Because that's an awkward situation. It's a real awkward turnaround. So he can just get out of the meeting, get on the motorcycle, cruise on out of there. You know it.

What a legend. I know, right? What a bloody legend. So yeah, you're obviously a Tom Cruise fan then, right? Not a fan, but you're not one of the people who are against Tom Cruise. No, I will watch... It's very rare for me to see a Tom Cruise film and not enjoy it. He's kind of nailed this semi-futuristic sci-fi genre.

Those past few years, you look at the movies, he's made Oblivion and Day After Tomorrow and Minority, importantly. They've all got a specific kind of feel. And I feel like this kind of thing is perfect for him in that way. But also, if you hate him, you get to watch him die again and again. Absolutely. If you like him, well, good. You like him. I think in a lot of cases as well, if you watch, anytime I watch a Tom Cruise movie

and it's bad, it's not necessarily anything he's done in it. Like Mission Impossible 2 is a bad film film but it's because they took the John Woo formula and they micromanaged it to within an inch of its life so it didn't feel kind of dynamic

or interesting anymore he was fine in that film yeah he was exactly he did everything that he did in the first one except he had sweet hair sweet hair

so much sweeter hair for me I felt like it was it was structured like you play a video game where you get to a point you die you go back to a point, you die,

you go back to a checkpoint. Yeah, yeah. And with the difference being in the video game, normally the checkpoints are a little more forgiving. Yes. And this one sets him right back to the start of the day. If you played this as a video game, you would be incredibly frustrated.

You would give it a zero, right? And you'd have to go and walk down and meet everybody again every day. A lot of unskippable cutscenes. Exactly. It's like a fucking Metal Gear game. Yeah. Don't hate them.

Stories are bullshit. Please don't email me. Send him emails. Yeah. I started Metal Gear on Metal Gear 4, as you know, Metal Gear Solid 4. And I was just instantly like, what the fuck is happening? Right. Great gameplay.

I have no idea what happened. Irrelevant. The last cutscene was also 40 minutes. Absolutely. That is unacceptable. Irrelevant. The last cutscene was also 40 minutes. Absolutely. That is unacceptable. Absolutely, yeah. Yeah. But, yeah, it just had a series of checkpoints and then kind of like a boss battle.

That was pretty much how it came about. I liked that there was some humor also that came with the situation in anticipating what people would kind of do. You know, it took that kind of, that Groundhog Day-esque kind of, the advantage that you would have over people, and then to use that. And also, obviously, the multiple deaths that he had. Right, right. Some of which were played for laughs. Yeah, exactly. Like the truck one.

We can say a couple of these. Sure, yeah. They're relevant to the plot. At one point, he sort of attempts to escape a drill line of people doing push-ups by rolling under a truck. That's in the trailer as well. And then he rolls under a truck, and the first couple of times he does it, he's hit by the truck and he's killed. Right?

But again, he's sort of figured, well, I've got unlimited lives here. I can just keep trying this until it works. And again, in the trailer, and we haven't talked about Emily Blunt yet, but we should. You know, he's training and he breaks his leg

and she just shoots him. Yeah. That's kind of, you know, because where's the harm? Yeah, well, that's exactly it. Was he... I'd imagine if this was say a real scenario right would that have been exhausting that every time you wouldn't even really get sleep would you because you just snap back good point actually so you just be and then you're back straight away so i don't know maybe they should have added a line where he's like oh if you look up had a good eight hours i'd imagine

he would be as rested as he was. When he woke up. When he woke up the first time. Good point. I wasn't going to say that. So yeah, I would say, having read some of these reviews, a lot of people would have said this was kind of Groundhog Day crossed with Starship Troopers. Yes, sure. I think it's better than that.

I think it's, yeah. Better than those movies? Yes. Better than Groundhog Day? Groundhog Day's pretty great, actually. No, I mean, it's better than how that sounds. Oh, okay, yeah. So, yeah, a lot of time when people say, oh, it's this and this actually. No, I mean, it's better than how that sounds. Oh, okay, yeah. So, yeah, a lot of the time when people say,

oh, it's this and this just mashed together, but you're saying it's that, but the sum of its parts are a bit bigger than that particular thing. You know what else I liked about it? The explosions. Maybe it was just a cinema that I was in that weren't obnoxious and ear-piercing. I find a lot of time I'm just like,

it really kind of like, you don't need to make them like that. Maybe that's just me getting older. Right, right, like there wasn't if it's too loud you're too old brother that's that's what they say but yeah i also liked that when they did kick it back to the start of the day i thought are they really going to make us watch this day through again and again but it was well edited it was quite well edited exactly so if he died and then the next time it would pick up exactly where he was then so he'd done all those things leading up to that point again. Yeah. It was edited very well to the point where the first couple of times it happens, you

know he's repeating the day, but you're not exhausted by watching him repeat the day. Because he's baffled by it and there's something amusing and interesting in watching him try to figure out what exactly is going on. Yeah. The cast though though we talked briefly about emily blunt yep she's great right she's great in it yeah what a bloody legend bloody legend yeah nice yeah um do you feel and some people said that may she she falls into the background as the movie progresses would you say that's true yeah i'll say that's weird i thought

they were building to you know i'm gonna save this as spoilers don't worry about it all right hold on to it yep i'm just gonna write it down because i'll forget okay yep sorry come back to that but yeah i felt that in a way and i felt they were building someone with that character which then didn't get to but i'll talk about you're probably right but she she's never really kind of done an action-y kind of thing before she's done like that one where matt damon runs through doors and wears hats matt Matt Damon door runner? Yeah. You know where there's angels or something? Oh, the Adjustment Bureau.

Yeah, people thought it was like Inception or whatever. It's okay, it's fine. Okay. And she was in Looper, of course. Right. And she can't swing an axe for shit, I'll tell you that much. But she's fine in those things, but this is her first kind of big, big action role. Yeah, with action set pieces.

Well, she was going to be Black Widow as well. Oh, yeah. That was lined up to be that. But I thought she was really, really good. And I liked the international cast. Because the film was set in Europe. You had your smattering of Americans or whatever. But you had people from all around the world.

We had Australia's own Kit Gurney. Yep, absolutely. Star of Garage Days, Australian film from 2002, which is not good. Not good. What's the ending of that movie again? The Struggling Rock Band? Struggling Rock Band. One of the members wins the lottery and they're not struggling anymore uh who else was in it noah taylor australia's own noah taylor i've seen game of

thrones game of thrones he's in he was recently in the double which i found is very i haven't seen that satisfying film i thought oh really going experience but we're not here to talk about that it's weird though we've got the double and the one where jake gyllenhaal has a double really yeah there's another one where it's the one where Jake Gyllenhaal has a double. Really? Yeah, there's another one where it's like two Jake Gyllenhaals. Source code two, now there's two

Jake Gyllenhaals. One of them's played by Tobey Maguire. Can't remember what it's called. Brendan Gleeson's great. Yep. Not into that much, but he's good, right?

Yeah, yeah. Donham's Gleeson's father. You know, the guy who recently got cast in Star Wars from About Time. Oh, right, okay. Yeah, yeah.

I think that's... Oh, Bill Paxton. Yeah, yeah. I think that's Bill Paxton. Yeah, yeah. Can't go past Bill Paxton. You know what? The first couple of seconds of that film, I'm like, you know, Paxton's, it's a bit weird. Paxton's in a sci-fi film. Then I'm like, no, he was Hicks in Aliens.

He's been in many sci-fi films. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Plus he was in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. You know why? He's a chameleon. That's why. And he's in bloody Terminator as well. Yeah, I know.

I'm not saying with the correct thought to have. I'm saying I'm an idiot. Was he in the abyss probably yeah seems like it but he's great has he been killed by a predator

yes he was killed by a predator in Predator 2 oh okay good so he's in the same camp as Lance Henrickson where he's been

killed by a predator an alien and a Terminator cool yeah yeah that's pretty sweet I think they're the only two

there might be one more but no no that's it yeah yeah email in if you've been killed by a alien and a Terminator. Cool. Yeah, yeah. That's pretty sweet. I think they're the only two. There might be one more, but no. No? No. That's it. Yeah, yeah. Email in if you've been killed by a predator, an alien, and a Terminator.

Not one of them, because I don't care, but if you've been killed by all three, let us know. Thank you. Speaking of characters, Mason, people say often CGI makes up many characters in films. No one's ever said that. The only people who've said that are people in DreamWorks documentaries. Like DreamWorks animation documentaries. And nobody watches those.

And if they do, they don't believe that. Well, the How to Train Your Dragon Again is coming again. Okay, cool. Okay, so are we going to talk about the mimics? Yeah, I want to talk about monster design. It was okay. Yeah. I like the kind of erratic kind ofness, but they didn't really seem to have a... Physical form? Yeah. They didn't have a lot of impact. Yeah. I like the kind of erratic kind of-ness, but they didn't really seem to have a...

Physical form? Yeah. They didn't have a lot of impact. Yeah. We talked about things being visceral, I think, last episode or episode before that. They didn't... There wasn't a lot of blood. No.

I guess maybe that's to keep a PG-13 rating in the US or whatever. But yeah, they didn't... I thought their movement was... Like, they had... The movement was quite vicious and kind of... Squiddy? Yeah, it was squiddy. Especially there's a sequence towards the end involving a dropship and a whole bunch of them.

That is very them being chased by squiddies in The Matrix Reloaded. Yeah, yeah. But I think I thought the humans versus mimic battle sequences, they were very World War II reminiscent, kind of D-Day reminiscent. And I thought the effects were good. They didn't have a lot of personality. Yeah, I felt that as well.

Kind of a bit... They served their purpose. And they looked okay, right? Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. Why were they called Mimics?

What are they mimicking? That's a very good question. That's what I wanted to ask you about. Well, let's go into spoilers then so we can... Oh, one more thing I wanted to say about the cast. That J-Squad, like the squad that Tom Cruise put into, I know they're supposed to be like, they've all got personalities. But they're terrible. They're horrible

cliches. They're not endearing at all. I was like, fuck these guys. I think Kit Gurry's character was a little bit... The Americans will find him very endearing because he's got that lovely Australian accent. But I think the rest were kind of cardboard cutouts. Yeah, you've got the fat guy party animal and you've got the tough girl with the accent.

They wanted a Vasquez from Aliens. That's what that felt like. They wanted all those guys, so they had to put in... But they all had backstories where they were tragic figures or something. Yeah, exactly. No good. Who cares? you know but they all had they all had backstories where they were tragic figures or something you know yeah exactly no good who cares yep

um yeah spoilers Mason let's talk spoilers let's talk spoilers okay let's go ahead I wanted to ask you okay basically hang on let me think have I got any non-war

spoiler stuff to say you can always add it in yeah good point with editing sure no I mean I just did a radio thing just earlier

oh yeah I forgot to ask you about that and it was like an irreverent take on news or whatever. And yeah, you can't edit. Panic types. You've got to make sure that everything counts. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. We don't edit anything, though, do we? No, that's why I was straight off the dome, straight into the iTunes. You know it. Okay, spoilers. Here we go. But the ending is basically, there is a big boss battle. Yeah, there certainly is a boss battle.

You have to get a thing to a place and defeat the boss with it. With a thing, yeah. And then you blow up that thing because then it... I'm not explaining this well, am I? Well, they've seen it, so it doesn't matter. That's true. Yeah, exactly. Tom Cruise had the reversing powers, which he stole from the aliens,

and they're trying to get it back from him. Right, and so they have to destroy the Amiga, which is the brain and the power source of the aliens. Yeah. But they can't do it. They can't also kill the Alpha, because if they kill the Alpha, the Alpha will get its powers back. Yes. Well, and then it'll reverse time, and there'll be curtains for everybody.

So they have to destroy the Amiga without destroying the Alpha. Yes. Yeah, yeah. And they do. Yeah. Huzzah! But that, to me, didn't make any sense well you know what first of all i liked the fake out where it was sending them fake a fake location and lured tom cruise to that dam yeah and it was gonna like you know get all weird and alien on him yeah or whatever which he'd love you know yeah but um he would he's true good boy i that. But then at the end when Tom Cruise died or whatever,

and then it just went back to before he met Brendan Gleeson. Yeah, yeah. What was that? I don't know. I don't feel that was adequately explained. It was just kind of like, oh, you won, so you get a second chance. I think that was kind of it. Yeah.

I think up until that point, like I said, they built this mechanic and they stuck with it for the most part. So it didn't, you know, the idea that they have to go and destroy the Omega without killing the Alpha,

maybe it doesn't really make any sense. Like, why would killing the Alpha give it back its time travel powers or whatever? It doesn't really make any sense. But what happens if they establish that that was the rule and then they stuck to it until the end, which was fine.

But again, after that, the fact that he was, you know, he died, he killed, yeah, he killed the monster and he gets the second chance at life. Yeah. Doesn't make any sense. But it would make more sense if it just took him back to when he woke up on the bag. Yeah, it would, wouldn't it?

Yeah. Why not just do that? Yeah, yeah. I guess they wanted to put it back before he disgraced himself or whatever. And that was the idea. Yeah. Why not just do that? Yeah, yeah. I guess they wanted to put it back before he disgraced himself or whatever. And that was the idea. Yeah. Because you know how he kind of disgraced himself and he threatened the general or whatever.

Yeah, yeah. I was actually a little bit confused. So he doesn't arrive... So he does arrive... It's not the same... It's not moments before he arrives in handcuffs. Yeah. It's way before that.

Yeah. Significantly before. Okay. And maybe it was because the timeline was altered. Maybe it's because you got more goop on him. Yeah. handcuffs. Yeah. It's way before that. Yeah. And maybe it was because the timeline was altered. Maybe it's because he got more goop on him. Yeah. Good point. Yeah.

Now, what about this though? If he had... He did get a lot more goop on him. He certainly did. If he had have stayed awake and lived through that day... Yeah. And then died, say, a week later, would it have taken him back to that point?

Would it have just taken him back to the previous day? Dunno, mate. So, it's outside the scope of this podcast. What are we, the bloody time travel podcast? What are we, the linear men? Sweet DC reference there. Dunno. Doesn't matter.

Good. Are they just men who go forward in time at regular pace? Yeah, that's why they're so linear. They're too linear, if anything. Cool. What are we, the time variance authority? Ooh, what's that from? Time Cop? No, that's Marvel they're so linear. They're too linear, if anything. Cool. What would be the Time Variance Authority? Oh, what's that from? Time Cop?

No, that's Marvel. Man, I'm not good at comics, am I? What are we? Doctor Who from the television serial Doctor Who? His name is Doctor Who, isn't it, as well? Correct, that's right, yeah. Yeah, I wanted to ask you about the Emily Blunt thing. I felt like it was building towards,

and I think I even saw this in a trailer, that she started to remember him. Right. Because there were scenes where she's kind of looking at him like she was about to say something or remember something. Did you feel like that was going to happen? And when she was kind of, she did kind of take a back step. And I thought it would have been revealed that she could remember bits and pieces of him. Like in the movie Paycheck with John Woo.

Right, right, right. No, see, I didn't pick up on that. Okay. And I think it's probably for the better that they... It's entirely possible that that was in there and then they took it out and I think that's probably for the better. Yeah.

I actually think it kind of worked that... Because these movies always try and shoehorn in a love story. At the end, everybody makes out or whatever and it's the best. They did make out. Yeah, sort of. They did. No, they kissed once.

But boy, what a kiss. Yeah, boy. But that was more like, we're probably going to die, so here's the last bit of human contact before we die, kind of thing. That's what I thought. But I thought, rather than kind of shoehorning that in, I thought it worked much better that it was sort of this one-sided romance where Tom Cruise was slowly falling in love with his character and she had no idea. I mean, she would have had the concept that maybe that sort of thing was happening.

Yeah. You know, because he's returned to life a thousand times or whatever. Yeah. But that he was slowly learning all these things about her and falling in love with the person that she was. And she really had like a couple of hours with him and so she had no idea. Yeah. I thought that was interesting.

It's like 50 first dates. It is like 50 first dates. They've just rolled in another movie. Yeah, also, yeah. I also loved his magical remote control that let him do all sorts of crazy stuff. We shoot an episode on that Adam Sandler movie where he goes to Africa.

It's called Blended. Oh, it's currently out in cinemas? It is out, okay. Why is it called Blended? It might be a race thing. It's probably a race thing. I don't know, I don't know. I don't really think it's a race thing.

Please don't assume that I'm racist. Well, do, it's fine. Yeah, I don't really have anything else to say about it. I think it's... I enjoyed Oblivion more. Right, okay. Maybe because I... I enjoyed Oblivion more. Right, okay. Maybe because I expected less of Oblivion.

But not that this was bad in any sense, but I liked the... A lot of people hated Oblivion, said it was boring. Fair enough. And I haven't gone back and watched it. Yep. But I liked the slow burn of Oblivion. See, I haven't seen Oblivion, but... Somebody said recently that the things that he fights are more...

Like, they have a weird, sinister personality, and they're, like, compelling. Because it's like weird kind of iPod drone creatures or something, but they have this weird, sinister personality to them that's quite off-putting or whatever. Absolutely, yeah. And somebody was saying that they have more unique personality than the Mimics in this film.

So maybe they're a more interesting antagonist. Sure. Yeah, and I would agree with that. unique personality than the mimics in this film so maybe they're a more interesting antagonist sure yeah and I would agree with that it is you could probably

shave 10 minutes out of that movie but I found it was more an interesting premise not that this wasn't and I did enjoy it it's your standard

kind of summer blockbuster-y kind of thing it felt like something more that you would get in the mid 2000s to early 2000s

than you would get now right yeah because you don't really see this kind of stuff that much anymore. That's true, yeah. It's more kind of like your superhero franchises or whatever. Throwback. Throwback. Yeah.

Throwback Thursday. That's what it is. What's that? It's when you post an old photo of yourself on Facebook or whatever. Is that a thing? Yeah, it's a thing. You should do it. Nah.

Do you do it? No. Then why should I do it? Well, you know, do as I say, not's a thing. You should do it. Nah. Do you do it? No. Then why should I do it? Well, you know, do as I say, not as I do. Okay, fair point. Yeah.

What are your final verdict, though, Mason? Oh, given the choice between best movie ever and worst movie ever? Yeah. I'd say best movie ever. Yeah. Yeah, got a, you know,

got a nice bit of Tom Cruise in there. Yep. I always enjoy a bit of Tom Cruise. Emily Blunt was great. Yep. Yeah. I'd agree with that. I'd say best movie ever. Yeah. Yeah, got a, you know, got a nice bit of Tom Cruise in there. Yep. I enjoyed a bit of Tom Cruise. Emily Blunt was great. Yep. Yeah. I'd agree with that. I'd say best movie ever.

I will probably never watch this again. Exactly, yeah. Yeah. Let's leave it as the best movie ever for all time and never go back to it. Yeah, it's fine. It does what it does. And I hope it, I think, strong word of mouth, because I think it's sitting pretty well on Rotten Tomatoes.

Uh-huh. I think it's going to stay around for a little bit longer. Cool. But then there's probably something coming around for a little bit longer. Cool. But then there's probably something coming out next week. How to Train Your Dragon again. That's right. So that'll probably... It won't be number one.

That's what I'm supposed to be saying. No, never. That's true. Does that mean it's the end for Tom Cruise films? No, not at all. I'm sure he's got another one in the pipeline. Should I look that up real quick to see if there's another one? Please do. I'm going to look it up to see if there's another Tom Cruise movie in the pipeline.

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Yeah, that's weird, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. You know, actually, and I thought this was just a side note to Edge of Tomorrow, I thought it was interesting in this film that you see him being really short. Yeah. Like, he's not short for Hollywood standards. He's like 5'9 or whatever. I think it says here he's 5'7".

Okay, well, that's, you know, still. But there's a lot of people on Hollywood, like 6'6", 2", whatever. Yeah. A lot of people, I guess, have always assumed he had a complex about being really short, or whatever. But you see him in a lot of scenes. But now he has a complex about people thinking he has a complex about it. Oh, so he has to reverse that.

But yeah, I thought it was interesting that you see him in a lot of scenes, like, especially when he's, you know, I don't know what I'm doing, I'm this new recruit in this powered armor situation. Like they'd all be marching in the powered armor and he's clearly the shortest one. Yeah. I thought that was interesting. Okay, I didn't even notice that. Yeah. That power armor didn't really bring anything though, like you said.

I didn't even think it was a particularly interesting design. No, not really. Yeah. But like you said, it was a minor thing. Yeah, it was a minor thing. Yeah, it was a minor thing. It was more, I think it was more the idea of, well, you can't send just

a regular guy into the front lines because he'd be immediately killed. Yeah. But if we add this conceit that just even regular guys can operate this power arm and become proper soldiers,

you know, then the idea is then we can throw Tom Cruise in the front lines. Yeah. Yeah. Fair point. Yeah.

So, Mission Impossible 5. Actually looking forward to that. Yeah, me too. But like 4. The guy who did Jack Reacher, though, which I haven't seen. Uh-huh. Brad Bird, I think, made the best Mission Impossible, which is the last one. Yeah.

But yeah. He's doing other stuff, Mason. Huh. Tomorrowland, I think. Or was that Jon Favreau? I think it's him. Okay. Doesn't matter.

Yeah. Is there another Incredibles film coming out? There is. Yeah. That was my favourite one. Me too. Oh, no, you liked Cars 2. No, that's not true.

Not true. I liked the Cars spin-off, Planes. That one where they tried to pretend that it was a Pixar film and it wasn't. Yeah. Jerks. All right. There we go, Mason. Great stuff.

I think we reviewed the hell out of that film. We'll talk about this briefly again next year when we talk about Mission Impossible 5. Hooray! All right. You know what it's time for? we're reading what we're gonna read i'm doing the thing what are we reading today you know it i'm gonna read all you need is kill yeah i think i see what it's like sure unless it's an actual novel. Or it's in Japanese. Yeah. Okay, here's the deal.

If I can find a free PDF version of it on the internet that's been translated into English well, and it's short, I'll probably maybe give it a go. If it's a manga, I'll give it a go. If it's in Japanese, obviously I'm not going to read it. If it's in English... You're bloody not going to read it. If it's in English... You're a bloody racist, mate.

I know, right? If it's in English but I read the first sentence and the syntax is quite poor, I'm putting it down again. If I have to pay for it, I'm not reading it. There's a lot of provisos on this, but I'm... It sounds to me like you're not going to read it. I'm probably not going to read it. This section isn't called What We Not Gonna Read, Mason.

No, it is. I changed it. Oh, okay. Well, then there you go. Well done. Yeah, thanks. What are you not gonna read? The Bible. Nice. No, what I'm gonna read this week is...

Josh Smith recommended this, and this ties into time travel. He's from England. Now, he loved us talking about Looper and Days of Future Past in relation to time travel. And he challenges us to watch the movie Primer. Oh, I've heard about Primer. I've been meaning to watch this for ages. Apparently, it's a very realistic take as far as you can get. It's hard sci-fi.

Yeah. None of this silly sci-fi that we normally, with the mimics and our squiddies and so forth. That's it. Apparently, you've really got to focus. And I think I've said this before, when I watch things a lot of the time, I'm like, on my phone, I'm editing a video, video i'm doing whatever you know what i mean like so i'm gonna have to sit down and watch this properly i've been meaning to watch it for ages so i'm gonna try and give that a watch this week challenge accepted josh yeah let me know how that goes you do not accept

i'll get to it eventually sure i could watch all those episodes of game of thrones oh that's right all 40 episodes I've also got here Fargo because people keep saying watch Fargo I want to watch Fargo so yeah there you go

that's what we're reading for this week there you go what else Broad City people are recommending also Orange is the New Black oh yeah

which I haven't seen in Broad City okay cool apparently you know female led kind of shows which are really good great also a few people

emailed and said they love that Darth Vader ghost prison story from last week. So, yeah. Cool. Did you make that a video? You did. I did. Fantastic.

Tell you what, we should ask Lucasfilm for money or something. We probably made them like four bucks. Four bucks at least. We are promoting a lot of their average properties for no remuneration. That's a good one, though. That's a good Lucasfilm property. So, yeah. There you go, Mason.

We've got some emails, some listener emails for this week. I'm ready to hear them. Nah. Let's just... Yeah, skip them. Fuck it. Nah, let's do it.

We've got some good ones. This is from Austin Singleton. Hey, guys, I'm getting married Saturday, which was yesterday. Sunday. Wonder if I can get a shout-out. Shout-out? Wait a second. Maybe this is a trap. I wonder if I can get a shout-out. Shout-out? Wait a second, one.

Maybe this is a trap. I want to hear the rest of it. I'm going to murder my wife on our honeymoon. Oh, shout-out. No, I'll be on my honeymoon when the podcast comes out, but I will download it on my phone and listen to it on the plane. I don't miss an episode. Thank you.

Keep up the good work, guys. From Austin Singleton, but I've got here brackets. Austin Weddington? I was going to say Marriedton. Yeah, nice. Nice. Good work. You son of a bitch.

You got it out of my joke. Sorry. That's all right. You did the best one. Okay. Well, I had time to think about it. Hopefully the rest of these have pun names as well. We can easily pun on.

Yours was better, though, because you came up with that on the spot. I wrote that down many hours ago. Right. Get ready for this every once in a while. And there was just a montage of you just writing up like at a desk lamp, just a desk with a lamp over you and just scribbling down. And then no one is scrunching up the paper and throwing it away. Just a photo of the, just a picture of the waste paper basket.

It's just slowly filling up the paper and just overfilling. This one's for about Dean B from Liverpool. Liverpool. Yeah. That's where one of the most famous bands in the world are from. Red Hot Chili Peppers. I was going to say Dick Van Dyke, The Chimney Sweep. Go ahead.

He was wondering, maybe we should have an outro at the end of our episode, right? Like, because it just cuts off abruptly. Which it does. Because the YouTube videos, what I do for the Weekly Planet, he says, I end with a theme. Yep. And he said, maybe we, I end with a theme. Yep. And he said, maybe we could use that or request a new one.

Brackets, he's saying, he ain't going to do one. Which is fair enough. Yeah, that's true. So, yeah. I wouldn't require anyone to do one, quite frankly. I'm amazed anyone's made it

to the end of any of these episodes. He says, best wishes from Scouse Land. Ooh. Try the Scouse accent if you like. Don't. Couldn't like. Don't. Couldn't even. Don't try to.

I'll research it and I'll approach it later. My Liverpool accent is Jack Black's Liverpool accent from Walk Hard, the film. Yeah, okay. Where he's Paul McCartney, is he? Yeah. In that? Yeah. So there you go.

We're the Beatles, the four Beatles. Yeah, that bit. Us, the four Beatles. The four Beatles. I'm Ringo, I'm here to have fun. That's not bad, right? Pretty good. Okay.

Who can disprove us except anybody who lives there? All right. Ian Jacko Jackson. I added the Jacko. That's all right. Yeah, it's good, right? It's got an old-fashioned Aussie nickname. He wants to start a Death's Head campaign, Mason.

Oh, I saw this on Twitter, yeah. And you were like, you want to say something about this? You want him to... You want to veto it, is that right? No, I don't want to veto it. The idea is, you know, we're probably going to see a lot of bounty hunters in the new Star Wars films. You know, Disney owned Marvel now, so throw in Death's Head in that group. He doesn't have to get a speaking role.

He doesn't have to, you know, anything like that. But just have him in the background, just shooting some stuff. Shooting some speaking role. He doesn't have to, you know, anything like that. But just have him in the background just shooting some stuff. Shooting some stuff. Hitting somebody with an axe, you know. Does he do that? Yeah, he's got an axe. He's got his arms come off.

His hands come off and he can plug in a gun or an axe or whatever. I have a question for you. I'm ready. If he takes both his arms off, I think he can only take one arm off. I was going to say. How does he get them both back on?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway. Probably wedges it in a door. Probably wedges it in a door probably wedges it in a door I don't know so he says if you want to see the Death's Head cameo

and I know Ralph from Cake Boss yeah yeah would be on board friend of the show friend of the show also we should plug his podcast

I was just going to say yeah he does I've been meaning to do this and I forget every week sorry Ralph yeah yeah he's got a podcast called Movie Mandate

yeah where he goes on a mandate and they have like a drink that's related to the film. Super fun. Yeah, yeah. Check it out. Yeah. All right.

Oh, yeah. That hashtag is Star... He's been a big boost to the show. Thanks, Ralph. I know. If you are listening. Maybe he doesn't listen this far either. Who would?

No. Hashtag Star Wars Death's Head Cameo. Cool. So hit that up. I'm ready, yeah. Maybe chuck in a hashtag Star Wars in there so it will get directly to the Star Wars Twitter feed. Yeah, yeah.

Jose Peralta. You're familiar with him? Friend of the show. Great bloke. Last week we announced Daxon as the official Spider-Man and he wrote in and said, can I be the official Mexican Batman? Yeah. Go for it.

Yeah, absolutely. Yes, you can. Yeah. You can be of all nations. Yeah, yeah. Don't even, you know what? At this point, forward guys, if you want to be the official blank of whatever, you don't even have to request it.

Just let us know you are. And I'm okay with that. It sounds great. The more official things we've got, the better. That's right. That's it. I say, you know, it's better to... Love have lost than to love to have loved at all.

Well, that, but also I was going to say it's better to... It's easier to ask for forgiveness than require permission or whatever the hell they say. Exactly. So just say you are. It's fine. That's right. Love an official thing. Well done, everyone.

Yeah. Now, I just wanted to acknowledge this. Zeth, sorry. The traditional owners of our land? Yes, that's right. Great. Seth Zalinski. He sent in a really genuinely nice email that I'll show you after.

It's just, he didn't ask for a shout out or anything. He didn't ask a question, but he just said some really genuinely nice email that I'll show you after it's just he didn't ask for a shout out or anything he didn't ask a question but he just said what's his game nothing he just said

it was just a really nice email the internet's ruined me for just people doing nice things what does he want but it was just it was a really nice it was just a nice email

to read I'm not going to read it out because it's kind of it's a bit self-serving because he basically says how much he loves the show and he appreciates him whatever so I'm not going to read it out because it's kind of, it's a bit self-serving because he basically says how much he loves the show and he appreciates him, whatever.

So I'm not going to go through it because I don't want to, you know, I'm too cynical for that. But I just want to say I really appreciate it and thank you. Thanks, buddy.

Cool. Yeah, yeah. Mason. I didn't write you an email. What are you... Oh, okay. Continue. I wanted to talk about

some reviews that we got on iTunes. Yes. Thank you to those people who do that, by the way. Yeah, absolutely. If you could review on some reviews that we got on iTunes. Yes. Thank you to those people who do that, by the way. Yeah, absolutely. If you could review on iTunes, that'd be great. We're getting up there. Now, if you go to the iTunes page of some big movies, podcasts, sometimes they're featured

underneath and stuff, which is pretty, pretty cool. They're clawing our way to the top. We'll bring them down. We won't get to the top. We'll bring them further down. That's the point. That's the point. That's the whole point of this.

Thank you. So, I want to read a couple We'll bring them further down. That's the point. That's the whole point of this. Thank you. So I want to read a couple of reviews, Mason. Okay, ready. This one, or parts of it anyway. This one's from Grant Tale. It's from May 24th. Basically, he talks about how he enjoys the show and whatever, and et cetera, et cetera.

And then it's like sitting around listening to your friends talk about stuff like that, which I guess is the kind of vibe we're trying to go for right so I guess yeah yeah but yeah no I prefer to be

just like lecturing people about stuff listen idiots no I just don't understand when people try to really formalize their

podcast and be like hello it's the show and welcome this to this week we're going to just fucking just talk like people talk

right idiots yeah anyway that's what I'm saying next week we're're going to just fucking talk like people talk. Right. Idiots. Yeah. Anyway, that's what I'm saying. Next week, we're just going to rag on other people's podcasts. We're going to play a clip and then be like, listen what you're doing wrong. Come on, idiots.

He also says, he adds at the end, it's also hilarious, although they are a bad influence on me because when my wife asked me to go to the... My wife? Sorry. You know what? I think you're allowed one of those a year.

Okay. And that was mine. And that's mine also, is it? Because I was in the room. Is that how that works? Yes, it is. I want one. Can I do the Bruno one?

Okay, you can do the Bruno. I'm super gay. What's his catchphrase? I don't know. That was it, yeah. Cool. I don't think I've seen that movie. Me neither.

Okay, there you go. Good on him. Although they are a bad influence on me because my wife asked me to go to the Archibald... My wife. You son of a bad influence on me because my wife asked me to go to the Archibald... No way. You son of a bitch. That's for next year. My wife asked me to go to the Archibald Prize Exhibition, and I ended up in the doghouse for saying, fuck art.

Great stuff. Solid work. You remember, I think it was me, maybe. Yeah, it was. You said that very early on. Yeah. That I said comics, or we said comics for the nerds and fuck art or whatever. I remember, most people obviously got that, but I remember there was one guy who was like,

these guys don't even like comic books. They said fuck art. Like, obviously we don't really... But isn't that incredible? I love how that shrugged to his mind. I'm sorry you got into the doghouse, Grandtail. At the same time, if you've got something in your head, you should express that. He went out guns blazing, and I respect that.

Yeah, yeah. Also, this one actually is directed specifically to you. Okay. It says, best podcast ever. Then it says, Mason, continue your lack of interest in all things comics or movies. Woo! Challenge accepted. So, yeah, there you go.

They're pretty good. So thank you for all the... There's so many people who listen once and they're like, why doesn't he know anything? And I fully made... Like, I know some stuff.

Yeah. But the memory's a bit scrambled at this point. Like, I'm sure most of the stuff I say is wrong. But I say it with conviction. I believe you. Yeah.

I'm cool with it. Yeah. I feel like, though, we both bring different things to the table. Uh-huh. Like, I read movie news. And you brought me that cup of tea. And I did bring you that cup of tea. And you have this weird knowledge of weird comic things that I don't have.

That you may or may not even have. Sometimes I'm making it up. Yeah. Who's to say? So there you go. That's the show for this week, Mason. It's a bit of a short one. We're a bit short of an hour ten. Oh, that's okay. Yeah. But that's okay. That's still a good listen. You can there you go. That's the show for this week, Mason. It's a bit of a short one. We're a bit short of an hour ten.

That's okay. That's still a good listen. You can be on the bus. Be on a bus. Be in your limo. I don't know what

your socioeconomic status is. Either of those. Do you want to maybe next week, if there's not a big movie out, maybe we'll do a Doctor Strange

one. Okay, cool. Talk about Doctor Strange and the powers up. That's B. Yeah. I've got to really

brush up on my Doctor Strange then. Yeah. I have Agamotto brush up on my Doctor Strange then. Yeah. I have Agamotto, Goatees, Best Wizard. He's one of the best wizards, certainly. He goes back and forth. Sometimes he's the best wizard. Sometimes he's nearly the best wizard.

Ah. Yeah. Like we're nearly the best podcast. Correct. Correct. So one of the top 40,000 wizards. All right. So I guess that's the show?

That is the show. Thank you, Mason. Thank you, James, junior editor. See you guys next week. Bye. Oh, one more thing. I'm doing a video. I did a video on top Star Wars movie ideas or whatever.

I just did, I think, three or four and I'm going to do a few of them. All of them are taken from last week's podcast. So if you listen to that, you don't really need to watch it. Yeah. They'll be clever little animations probably. No,

very little effort, but great thumbnail. You saw it. Yeah. That draws people right in. Yeah. Also, thank you to your dog for sitting there the entire hour and not assaulting us.

I love this dog. I know. All right. Thanks guys. Thanks guys. Bye. Bye. Outro theme. I know alright thanks guys thanks guys bye outro theme friends leaving the room together

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