The Weekly Planet - 371 Best & Worst Movies Based on Books

Episode Date: February 8, 2021

Visit https://bigsandwich.co/ for a bonus weekly show, exclusive movie commentaries, early stuff and ad-free podcast feeds for $9 per month.This week Andy & Al join us to get into the best and wor...st movies based off books! But before that we get into the news of the week including Resident Evil, the Nintendo Netflix deal that died, more Dracula, Bruce Willis' latest outing, the Matrix 4 get s title, Armor Wars, a Wakanda series, Thor 4 and of course Snyder Cut news. Thanks for listening!The Pop Test: https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/the-pop-test/Two in the Think Tank: https://play.acast.com/s/two-in-the-think-tankAndy & Al’s Melbourne Comedy Festival Show, Teleport: https://www.comedyfestival.com.au/2021/shows/teleport00:00 The Start02:43 Resident Evil Release04:40 Netflix Series Leaks07:38 Dracula and the Dark Universe Returns09:54 Cosmic Sin Trailer12:47 Fantastic Beasts 3 Troubles14:06 Matrix 4 Title Reveal18:33 War Machine and Armor Wars19:36 Wakanda Disney+ Series21:08 Thor 4 Details22:42 Snyder Cut Rating23:28 The Pop Test29:51 Best & Worst Movies Based on Books01:30:53 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:47:17 Letters, It's Time For LettersJames' Twitter â–º http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter â–º http://twitter.com/wikipediabrown Patreon â–º https://patreon.com/mrsundaymovies TWP iTunes â–º https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 TWP Direct Download â–º https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanet TWP YouTube Channel â–º https://goo.gl/1ZQFGH Amazon Affiliate Link â–º https://amzn.to/2QbmwGj T-Shirts/Merch â–º https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:44 for. Register today at sunrisechallenge.ca. That's sunrisechallenge.ca. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. Red hot comic book movie news. Shooting up your ball. The Weekly Planet. The Weekly Planet. Welcome back everybody to another episode of The Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday. With me as always is my co-host Nick Mason. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:01:13 I realise I didn't mute us during the song and the sting at the start. Well, it's a good thing we have no interaction. I was going to say, I don't think we said anything. So that's lucky, I guess. Very much so. Normally it's banter aplenty. We're just having, we're riffing normally. Just getting warmed up. No, we're mostly complaining.
Starting point is 00:01:30 We're mostly complaining, yeah. About all our wonderful listeners. That's right. Speaking of, if you sign up to Big Sandwich, our WandaVision recaps are now going up there early. The audio version before the visual element goes up on YouTube. Our latest recap will be up. Well, it's recaps. It's Easter eggs.
Starting point is 00:01:45 It's reviews. It's keywords in the YouTube algorithm, so it will show up. That's exactly right, yes. But so that's- Brie Larson? Brie Larson, question mark. She does get a lot of play in that episode. So that's well and truly up by now if you do want to check it out.
Starting point is 00:01:56 To be clear, that's not a spoiler. No. Brie Larson gets a lot of play in us talking about the episode. Yes, that's right. Exactly, yes. If you haven't seen it, so do not stress. Or maybe it is a spoiler. Oh. We will never tell. We'll. Yes, that's right. Exactly, yes. If you haven't seen it, so do not stress. Or maybe it is a spoiler. Oh.
Starting point is 00:02:05 We will never tell. We'll never tell. That's right. So this week we've got the news of the week as always where I've got some Resident Evil news. We've got some Dark Universe news. Yes. We've got, have you seen the trailer Cosmic Sin?
Starting point is 00:02:17 Is that because, yes, I have. Okay, good. I forgot to ask you. Do we have Dark Universe news because it was Groundhog Day recently and the groundhog saw its shadow so we get Dark Universe news? That might be it. Fantastic Beasts Shut Down, a name for The Matrix, and then we've got a bunch of MCU stuff including Thor starting
Starting point is 00:02:35 a Wakanda series, and of course we've got Snyder Cut news. Before we've got a couple of good old boys coming in to talk about some adaptations of books, good or bad. The boys? Are they good or bad? No, no, the boys coming in to talk about some adaptations of books, good or bad. The boys? Are they good or bad? No, no, the boys coming in. No, they're good.
Starting point is 00:02:51 Unquestionably good boys. Yeah, that's right. So that's Andy and Al from Two and the Think Tank. They're coming by a bit later. We're going to talk about some stuff. I thought about it and then I was like maybe we should have picked Dave Warnecke because he has the Book Cheat podcast. Nah. Fuck him.
Starting point is 00:03:04 I mean, we've got time. No, we don't, Mason. Nah. They're on the way. They're knocking on the door. Well, Dave could also be on the way. He's not. No.
Starting point is 00:03:12 Conceivably, he could also, you know. You're right. The way these modern times work. Tell you what, we'll get Dave Warnke in and we won't tell him he already did it to not hurt his feelings. Okay, right. We'll think about that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:21 But any time he mentions a book that's already been mentioned by Al or Andy, we'll be like, yawn. Yeah, no, thank you. Yawn and boo. But he won't know why. Okay, so Deadline are reporting that Resident Evil has a release date for the new movie of September 3rd. Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:37 Spookiest day of the year, no doubt. That's right. Because it's pre-Halloween. That's right. It's during the Halloween month. It's like you've only got 27 odd days to get prepared for Halloween month. And you've got to think of a good Twitter handle that you can change. That's exactly right.
Starting point is 00:03:52 You're going to go with MrPumpkinMovies again this year? Well, I did that before Halloween. You did, that's true. Then I changed it back just prior to Halloween. But, yeah, so we haven't seen anything yet. This could very well get pushed or go to streaming or whatever, but why not Resident Evil, Mason? Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:04:07 I reckon you should change your handle to James Hell Brooks. You know, like the Treehouse of Horror. Like Treehouse of Horror. Very good. Should I? Yep. All right, I'll do it. Do it right now.
Starting point is 00:04:15 Should I do it now? Yeah, do it now. All right, I'll do it. Hang on. It's a silly bloody figure. I don't have time. I'll do it. I will do it after the show.
Starting point is 00:04:21 Okay, right, right. Because then it's got to be dead air where Collings edits that out. Okay, but how do you do this? It has to be before the episode comes out so people don't know why. I agree do it. I will do it after the show. Okay, right, right. Because then it's got to be dead air where Collings edits that out. Okay, but it has to be before the episode comes out so people don't know why. I agree. Okay. No problem. Remind me at the end of the show.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Okay, I won't. Do you want some Hollywood reporter news? Yes. Are they reliable or not? They're one of the ones that are. Okay, great. Oh, speaking of, I wasn't going to bring this up. Let's do this now.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Okay. Do you see that- Our personal beef? Yeah. Why we weren't speaking before the episode started? We're just in it for the Patreon money at this point, aren't we? That's exactly right, yeah. Normally we would
Starting point is 00:04:52 be talking and probably saying something that we couldn't, like we'd have to erase. Yeah, that's right. And what would happen, because you push two mute buttons, so our microphones are muted, but we'd do the whole episode and I'd be off the whole time because I'd be like, what if it went through anyway?
Starting point is 00:05:07 What if it's in the recording? And then, then what if Collings, he misses it and then we've said something. Or he turns on us. Yeah. He's got all the evidence. Maybe that's what he's doing. He's just gathering evidence. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:18 And then I would probably text you the next day being like, hey, can you check the episode? Was it cool? Yeah. So I decided Stoney Silence. Very good. Yeah. So not a rift.
Starting point is 00:05:28 No. Anyway, so Netflix, though, they were developing a bunch of Nintendo properties, including Zelda, and then it leaked. Oh, and Star Fox as well. And Star Fox, a stop motion thing maybe? With puppets or something. Yeah, with puppets or something, which they sometimes are. Yeah, I guess that's true.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Or whatever, or they're modelled off. And then it leaked and they shut it down. They just went, no, you don't get this anymore because people are rude and they tell things they shouldn't. How dare anyone be inadvertently hyped for these properties that they love. Isn't that fucking crazy? I don't trust Nintendo and I don't like them.
Starting point is 00:05:58 They do a lot of weird things. They got our video that time, if you recall. They did get our Pokemon video, though that might have been the Pokemon company and not Nintendo specifically. Oh, okay, right, right, right. But yeah. But they are weird about, well, you used to be able to, it's changed now, but if you played a Nintendo game on YouTube,
Starting point is 00:06:14 you would have to split the revenue with them. With Nintendo? Yes. With Shigeru Miyamoto. The man himself. That's right. With Doug Bowser, the current CEO. Coincidence, probably, I think, the name.
Starting point is 00:06:26 No, there is a term for it, I think. Isn't there a term for people? Cognitive dissonance? No. There's a term for if you have a jaw. A jaw? If you have a job. Now, if you have a name that sounds like a job,
Starting point is 00:06:40 oftentimes, or it relates to a job, oftentimes you are drawn to that job. Mark Webb, Spider-Man. Like there's a lot of Dr. Bloods. I don't know if you've noticed that. Really? But I've encountered a number of them in my life. I mean, I'm a vampire hunter, so that explains it, you know.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Yeah, yeah. Oh, my God. Speaking of vampire hunters, I've got some news. But I just wanted to quickly say the only thing I can think of in relation to Nintendo, like just taking their bat and ball and going home is when the script leaked for the hateful nominative determinism i haven't even looked it up there we go i remembered it very good yeah i like how you had to point out that you didn't look it up i thought you wouldn't believe me i don't carry the way i know you don't so but uh you remember when hateful eight script leaked and then tarantino
Starting point is 00:07:24 like shut it down yeah and he wasn't gonna make it but also like i remember when Hateful Eight script leaked and then Tarantino like shut it down and he wasn't going to make it. But also like I remember when it leaked. But then that's because he figured out due to a clause in his contract, half the money went to Shigeru Miyamoto. Oh, no. Yeah. No good. That guy's in everything.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Because Kurt Russell's character was named Princess Peach. I should watch that again. I went to actually watch the extended version over the holiday break. You know, they broke it up into a series. And it wasn't on Netflix anymore or Australian Netflix. I should watch that again. I went to actually watch the extended version over the holiday break. You know, they broke it up into a series. And it wasn't on Netflix anymore or Australian Netflix. So I'm going to have to get that at some point. But, yeah, but that being said, he did end up making it. And I think they will end up doing something with these properties
Starting point is 00:07:57 as soon as they stop having their little tantrum in the corner. They'll come back. I mean, I guess they have more options now. Maybe they're like, we're going to get, maybe they want to reopen negotiations somehow. Yeah. Like they're like, well, we could get a better deal. So we're shutting it down. Maybe we'll go to Amazon Prime and less, you know.
Starting point is 00:08:13 Maybe. They are making a Mario movie at the moment through DreamWorks, I want to say, or a different thing. Anyway, the Hollywood Reporter. I like you made a DreamWorks face when you were puzzled by that. That's my regular face. Oh. Chloe Zhao, the director behind Nomadland and the upcoming The Eternals,
Starting point is 00:08:30 which was supposed to come out last year but it didn't, she is working on Universal's Dracula, the next instalment in the dark universe that's probably not connected. Yes. She's going to write, produce and direct. What's his deal this time? Well, it says here, here we go. It says that from the Hollywood
Starting point is 00:08:45 Reporter, here's a little bit of spin that I know you'll appreciate. Details are being kept in the coffin. Very good. But Sal's version is described as an original. Well, they did that with the mummy. I'm sure they did under wraps. Can they do it for all of them? That's true. They do it for the creature from the Black
Starting point is 00:09:02 Lagoon? It's all swampy. Details are swampy. Yeah, very good. Details's been kept in a swamp. Details are swampy. Yeah, very good. Thank you. Details are a big swampy man. Details are covered in mud currently. Details are you're walking and your feet are underwater and they're a bit squelchy.
Starting point is 00:09:16 I'm quite sure what you're standing on. There's a bit of a fog, like a light fog. More of a mist, I guess, if I had to describe it. That's right. Yeah. Details are a bolt through your neck if you spill one word of this, you son of a bitch. Are we getting one of those at the moment?
Starting point is 00:09:30 A Frankenstein? I hope so. I'd rather a Frankenstein before another Dracula. No, you're going to love this because it's original, futuristic, sci-fi, western, and themes of being on the fringes of society, which makes me think Dracula 2000, a movie I haven't seen. Yeah, that's right. But look, why not?
Starting point is 00:09:46 I love these swings of the dark universe. Yeah. We got one good one in the past 15, 20 years. Sure. So let's just keep going. I love it. And why not? What are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:09:57 Invisible Man. Oh, yeah, right. Okay, sure. That was a good one. And I guess some of the mummy sequels. Okay. Okay, sure. I guess. Yeah, yeah, sure. I guess.
Starting point is 00:10:05 I guess. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Apparently The Great Gatsby is out of copyright now. What are we going to do with it? We're going to make our own Great Gatsby. Great Gatsby, we'll say. The Rad Gatsby. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:14 Details. The Rad Gatsby. Details. We could get Hannah Gatsby. We could. We could. To be Jay Gatsby, who's Rad. That's perfect.
Starting point is 00:10:21 Have you seen it or read it? I've done neither. No, I've seen it and read it. We'll talk about it with Andrew and Albert when they come in. Okay, sure's rad. That's perfect. Have you seen it or read it? I've done neither. No, I've seen it and read it. We'll talk about it with Andrew and Albert when they come in. Okay, sure, we'll do that. Yes. No doubt. I've seen both great Gatsbys.
Starting point is 00:10:31 Yeah, the Redford one. Yeah. Well, we'll talk about it. Okay. What are you excited for, Dracula 2000? No. How futuristic. I think it just means modern day.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Okay. There we go. So we've got another thing we talk about. It's the Cosmic Sin trailer, which is the new Bruce Willis. I don't want to talk about Bruce Willis anymore. Well, I feel like this is worth mentioning, right, because it ties into everything else. This is the second movie he's done with Frank Grillo.
Starting point is 00:10:56 And Frank Grillo last time said that movie was terrible. Like he said it in a Collider interview or whatever. And he was like, yeah, bloody Bruce Willis was only in it for the paycheck and I was only in it for the paycheck and what a bunch of just a couple ofis was only in it for the paycheck and I was only in it for the paycheck and what a bunch of just a couple of dudes were only in it for the paycheck. And I guess they're both back in it for the paycheck again.
Starting point is 00:11:10 Yeah. Do you know Frank Grillo's like 56? He looks great. He's got an amazing rig. Yep. As in body. Correct, yes. And that's good.
Starting point is 00:11:20 I think that's good for him. Sure. He looks dehydrated sometimes. He does. I think that's – but imagine looking like that at 56. Can you? Exactly like Frank Grillo. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:29 There's only one man who has that experience. That could be the plot of a movie. Could be. It could be Cosmic Sin, whatever it's about. My God, I've woken up in the future and I look exactly like Frank Grillo. But how does Frank Grillo look now? Because it's the future. The same somehow.
Starting point is 00:11:44 The same somehow. Okay, so this is a Bruce Willis-Frank Grillo look now because it's the future. The same somehow. The same somehow. Okay, so this is a Bruce Willis-Frank Grillo joint. It's also maybe like a Gears of War knockoff or something. Seems that way. Or Halo. Well, it's fascinating to me. It's Gears of War, but it's like aliens. Yeah, it's fascinating to me.
Starting point is 00:11:55 It's a sci-fi and it's set in the year 2524 or something like that. Oh, just take a swing. Good. Just be like, yeah, this will be 2024. Yeah, that's right. So he's a former Marine or maybe Space Marine. Space Marine. But I don't know if you've seen the poster.
Starting point is 00:12:09 This was pointed out in the Weekly Planet Reddit page. It's the poster from Die Hard 4. He's even got the same scars. Oh, they've just Photoshopped. So it's not literally that, but it's the Bruce Willis from that era. Which is a long time ago now. But it's also not that different. Like, he doesn't look that different. But once you shave your head, it's all pretty much. That's true, yeah. You era, which is a long time ago now. But it's also not that different. Like, it doesn't look that different.
Starting point is 00:12:25 But once you shave your head, it's all pretty much. You look the same for a long time. But he's also, like, notorious. There's that story from Kevin Smith for Cop Out where he refused to pose for the poster. Ah, okay. So I wonder whether this is a thing he does now. It's like, well, if you don't get me on the day when I come in for my 13 minutes of work. You're going to have to use some headshots from moonlighting.
Starting point is 00:12:44 Yes, that's right. But what's fascinating to me about this particular trailer, they seem to have gotten him to do more than he normally does because he's in a power suit of some sort. Yeah, how'd they do that? He seems to be walking around. It's also, it couldn't be a CGI power suit because this doesn't look
Starting point is 00:12:59 like that kind of movie. It's got that lower budget feel. I can't wait to watch Cosmic Sin trailer when it comes out with Bruce Willis and Frank Grillo together again. That's right. I'm going to get a Grillo Willis trilogy. A Grillo Willis? Well, we're going to get my children's book, The Grillo Willis,
Starting point is 00:13:18 which I hope will tide you over. Is it secretly about the environment or whatever? Yeah. Yeah, good. It's got a message. Look out, The Grillo Willis is behind you. You know? It's got a good. It's got a message. Look out, the gorilla willis is behind you. You know? It's got a moral.
Starting point is 00:13:28 It's got a moral, this book, probably. They're like the new Abbott and Costello, these two. I love it. Except they don't make good movies. No, no, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe this one will be good. Deadliner reporting that Fantastic Beasts 3,
Starting point is 00:13:38 it suffered a bit of a delay. I don't know if you heard this, because a team member from Fantastic Beasts 3 has tested positive for COVID. Oh, boo. Fantastic Beasts 3 has tested positive for COVID. Boo! Fantastic Beasts 3 post-production will be back up with Accordance to Safety guidelines. So this obviously isn't a surprise.
Starting point is 00:13:52 It happened to the Batman. It nearly happened to Mission Impossible, or it did, and then Tom Cruise went insane at everybody for it. That's true, yeah. But this is the reason. Who went insane on the set of this? That's a great question. Probably what's-his-face.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Who? You know, the guy's all... Mads? Who? You know, the guy's all... Mads Mikkelsen? No, the guy's all... Oh, Eddie Redmayne. Yes. Edward Redmond. Edward Redmond.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Very good. Anyway, this is a series of... It would have been like, oh, fellows. Who's responsible? Do you think it's going to turn out that it's a cast member? Like what's not in the crew, but it's like one of the leads, like it was with Batman? Because it doesn't say specifically that it's a one of the leads like it was with Batman.
Starting point is 00:14:25 Because it doesn't say specifically that it's a crew. Because otherwise they'd throw a grip under the bus. They would throw a grip under the bus. Exactly. That's right.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Yeah. So I don't know. We'll see, won't we? Well, look, they've already recast one major actor in it so I'm sure they could do it again.
Starting point is 00:14:38 We're putting you in a tank, Redmane. We're getting a new guy. Yeah. We're getting Hugh Grant. We're getting a de-agifier. Yeah, why not? It doesn't matter, does it?
Starting point is 00:14:44 All right, here we go. We're getting Timothy Chalamet. Timothy Chalamet.ify him. Yeah, why not? It doesn't matter, does it? Alright, here we go. We're getting Timothee Chalamet. Timothee Chalamet. Could they afford Timothee Chalamet? Could he afford it? Yes. He probably could, I guess. So we've been talking about The Matrix of late. I'm like, is it just called
Starting point is 00:14:57 Matrix? What's going on? It appears as if there was a production gift that was leaked online and there is a title. Do you want to have a guess at what it is? It's Matrix something, isn't it? Yes. Matrix in. Resuscitation.
Starting point is 00:15:12 That's right. Recompense. Oh. Matrix Reciprocation. Nice. It's resurrection. Matrix Redmane. And he's all, ugh.
Starting point is 00:15:21 I got fired, but I'm on this one now. Ugh, spoons. Yeah, resurrection, which makes sense because it's... Was it resurrections? It might be resurrections. It might be, actually. Whatever. No, but that's important because...
Starting point is 00:15:33 Yeah, because it's Trinity and Neo. Well, we know Trinity and Neo are back in some form, so... But maybe it's they're the actors, Carrie Ann Moss and Keanu Reeves. That's right. It is resurrections. You are absolutely right. So I apologise for all of those things that I've said. And all other things?
Starting point is 00:15:45 And also the Weekly Planet posters, if you decide to make all those. They're not that funny, so you don't have to do it, to be honest. But, you know, if there's nothing better in this episode, it's really up to you at that point. Go to a funnier episode. Go to a funnier episode. Or just take a week off. Live your life.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Yeah. What do you do in your regular life? Good question. Do that. Enjoy. Go fishing. What do you do? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Yeah, tell us. You don't have to. I didn't tell everybody for years what I did for this show. All that funny thing that happened to you at the gym. Fine. Do you want me to tell you? Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:10 It's not that funny. Somebody said to me. I didn't say it was funny, James. I said it was heartwarming. I said this was going to be a heartwarming story about something that happened to you at the gym. I've got some gym friends, right? It's mostly because I go during the day.
Starting point is 00:16:23 It's mostly me and mothers. A group of mothers just having a gas, mate. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because all the men are at jobs, which is how it works in the suburb that I live in, it turns out. So they're always looking at you funny. They're like, what's this guy doing? I think they are a little bit, maybe, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:37 Because, you know, what am I doing? What are you, a foot model, they say to themselves? Why can we never see your feet? Because my feet are tiny. That's why. I have tiny little feet. But model, they say to themselves? Why can we never see your feet? Because my feet are tiny. That's why. I have tiny little feet. But what was I going to say? So she goes, what do you do?
Starting point is 00:16:50 And I go, I make podcasts. Big mistake. I know. Normally you wouldn't as well. I know, but I've been doing it so long, I can't say. You can't fall back. I can't fall back on it because I quit teaching at the end of 2015. So it's weird if it's like, I'm a teacher who hasn't taught in six years.
Starting point is 00:17:05 They'd be like, why? Exactly. They'd move the children away from you. It's just like, oh. And so I just went, yeah, but I used to be a teacher. And they're like, oh, okay, yeah. And it's like because it's something that's like it's something people know. This is a good litmus test, though, for do people know anything about podcasts?
Starting point is 00:17:21 Yeah, definitely. The answer is still no, which is good because that means we haven't hit the boom, which will lead to the bust yet. Exactly. You know what I'm saying? AMC. Or they'll just never catch on. GameStop.
Starting point is 00:17:31 They'll just never catch on. That's right, exactly. Did you get any of those stocks and shares going on at the moment? No. No. I don't have money for stocks and shares. You don't? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:40 I disagree, Mason. Spend it all on leather jackets. I spend it all on weird keto cereal That's true What else we got here Bro Bible How are they different from the Lad Bible I guess they're American
Starting point is 00:17:54 Bro Bible if you're out there Are you an American division of Lad Bible Maybe I'm just going to write the same Consider James saying that you're a radio producer. And then there's uniolad. No, that's a uni-lad. Because then they'd be like, what radio?
Starting point is 00:18:10 And I'd be like, personal at-home radio. Also, you're a ham radio enthusiast. No, because that's what essentially we're doing, isn't it? Yeah, we're ham radio enthusiasts. Yeah, even though I'm pretty sure that our numbers are better than a lot of Australian radio. And a lot better than a lot of ham radio enthusiasts, probably. Yeah. So, well, there's a post here from radio. And a lot better than a lot of ham radio enthusiasts probably. Yeah. So there's a post here from Facebook.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Breaker, breaker, this is from Uni Lad. I'm out here on the airwaves. Everybody out there driving the big 18 wheels in the sky. Well, here it's Maceo and I've got some news about the new Dracula reboot. And they're like, get off the radio. We used to do the walkie-talkies. Yes. Every now and then you could pick up like a truck.
Starting point is 00:18:49 Do you remember this? So we used to just go on. Oh, I'm not Superman, James. I can't just pick up a truck. Very good, funny. Good stuff. You said that would be a heartwarming joke before the show. I did, didn't I?
Starting point is 00:19:00 He loves his dad. Yeah, he does. We used to just like yell at truck drivers and stuff. Nice. Yeah, and then hope they couldn't find us because they'd beat us up. And that's led to you being the ham radio enthusiast before. Anyway, Zach Young from Facebook says, the lad Bible is just a wannabe bro Bible,
Starting point is 00:19:17 so I guess they're not the same. Or they still could be and that guy doesn't know it. Anyway, moving on, bro Bible are saying that War Machine is to appear in Falcon and the Winter Soldier. Oh. And also, Armor Wars is going to start filming in a couple of months, gearing up for the Armor Wars series.
Starting point is 00:19:32 Cool. So there you go. That's fun. Are you excited for that? Yes. Armor Wars. Yeah. Cleaning up messes.
Starting point is 00:19:38 There was also a rumor this week that, well, not a rumor, a rampant speculation this week that uh war machine might appear in an upcoming episode of wandavision yes well we talked about that in uh we did yeah episode so mate i mean it's possible that they have been they might be doing some like you know some subtle promotion for armor wars through everything that's subtle we're gone yes so gone subtle subtle yeah maybe they're just doing like that wasn't worth derailing you. Well, now I've lost my place. Maybe they're doing some subtool. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:10 Subliminal. Oh. Subliminal? Some. Subliminal. Advertising for Armor Wars in WandaVision and. I'm into it. Falcon and Winter Soldier.
Starting point is 00:20:21 I'm into it. Yeah. Everything's linked, isn't it? That's right. In these movies. I'm into it everything's linked isn't it in these movies
Starting point is 00:20:23 Ryan Coogler has also signed up to Disney for a five year television exclusive deal with his production company Proximity Media
Starting point is 00:20:33 which comes with a whole lot of creatives including Ludwig Goss if I had a production company and my name was Ryan Coogler call it Coogs Dudes Coogs
Starting point is 00:20:41 Coogs Coogs no it doesn't work the one you said is better than what I was going to do then. Yeah. Brackets and dudettes.
Starting point is 00:20:48 And dudettes. Everybody. Brackets and other. Other. That's right. NB. Asterisk, asterisk, very inclusive. That's right.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Exactly. And people would know. People would know that. I was very inclusive. Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So there's going to be a Wakanda series coming to Disney+, but also multiple series, including the one I just mentioned,
Starting point is 00:21:04 based off the Kingdom of Wakanda. Yeah. What do you think about that? Very cool. Yeah. I'd like to see more Wakanda, daily life in Wakanda. Me too. What's that all about?
Starting point is 00:21:13 There's some goat farming. There's like spears, standing around with a spear. Yep. There's council meetings. Standing around with a spear, but actually it's a laser spear, but it's secret because you're on the border. That's right. And you're like, don't look over there.
Starting point is 00:21:24 I'm just a regular guy with a spear not a laser spear but people are like chill out it doesn't have a what do you mean not a laser spear and then you're like what do you mean what do i mean i can't be more specific than that and then you have to go to the to the you know the guardhouse later and you have to fill in another form which you have to laser spear a dude who just wouldn't leave it doesn't shoot though do they they should shoot i think they do shoot i don't think, though, do they? They should shoot. I think they do shoot. I don't think they do.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Wow. Remember when Okoye gets in the ditch with one of those bad guys in Infinity War? Oh, yeah, yeah. And, like, hits her with that stick? Yeah. I feel like he could have just shot her. I love that scene. It's really good.
Starting point is 00:21:56 But also we saw that Thor Love and Thunder has started up. Speaking of goats. Speaking of goats. Because both his goats are there. Oh, yeah, that's right. I'm going to get this forever now. Don't be so egotistical. You won't get it forever.
Starting point is 00:22:08 You'll be dead eventually. James, you'll be dead eventually. Oh, yeah, that's right. My ego is running rampant thinking that I'm going to live forever. Both of his pet goats, Tooth Grinder and Tooth Gnasher. Also, I love it that people are thinking of me. I appreciate that. What am I complaining about?
Starting point is 00:22:21 Oh, people send me a nice message. Fuck you, James. You're a fucking baby. Anyway, that's me. that's not somebody who sent me that call james i'm talking to myself um so yeah it's gonna say i got my emails so thor has long hair and big muscles he's big muscles again he's back and he's got a sort of a sleeveless sort of black and red kind of biker jacket situation vest Why not? Vest deal. It looks like it could be a. Thunderstrike.
Starting point is 00:22:48 Yeah, I thought I was going to say like a knockoff Ravagers jacket, like one of Peter Quill's. Oh, it could be, yeah. I bet there's a joke where he's like, I had to cut the sleeves off because I'm so big. My bicep's too big, yeah. Do you think that's going to happen? And notice you've got sleeves.
Starting point is 00:22:59 Yeah, you've got sleeves, yeah. Because we do see that Peter Quill is also in this. Did you see the headline that was like, I can't remember who it's from, but it was like Chris Hemsworth spotted on set with actor who plays Star-Lord. Ouch. Like they're not like relatively equal in status in terms of popularity. Wild, yeah. Or celebrity-ness.
Starting point is 00:23:17 So there you go. So we'll be expecting that at some point in the next one to 17 years because of all the various viruses that we're getting. I think probably less than 17 years, if I'm honest. I hope it's less. One more bit of news because I always save the best for last. It's official, Mason, the Snyder Cut is rated R. Yes.
Starting point is 00:23:38 I'm not even really sure what that means in the context of Australia because it's different. I think this is the, yeah, so the US it would be in 15. So it's not, yeah, so in Australia is about equivalent to NC-17. So it won't be that. It will not. So I say who cares. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:55 Are you excited though? Yeah. Four hours, baby. Aquaman's going to say the F word. Oh, my goodness. I fucking hate this. Aquaman's going to say the C word. Cod.
Starting point is 00:24:04 Cod. Is he allowed to say that? Yeah. Nice cod piece, Batman. Only in the context of my favorite fish is a cod. Oh, okay. Cool. Out of context, it's rude.
Starting point is 00:24:12 Oh, my goodness. Anyway, that's exciting, isn't it? Yeah. As women, our life stages come with unique risk factors, like when our estrogen levels drop during menopause, causing the risk of heart disease to go up. Know your risks. Visit heartandstroke.ca.
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Starting point is 00:25:27 Now, Mason, we warned people up top, threatened, that we were going to have a couple of guests coming in, and they've snuck in, somehow. We don't know how they got through the door. Well, they went through the door, actually. We invited them in. We had a chat. You've given them each a kombucha. Yeah, that's true. They've joined the buchoisie, a term that I just invented
Starting point is 00:25:44 and I'm very proud of. We've plugged in some extra mics. Come booch with me, come booch. Let's booch today. Let's booch today. Yeah. It's Andy and Al from Two in the Think Tank, returning guests.
Starting point is 00:25:56 My goodness. My goodness. After last time, I swore I'd never come back. We must have done a really good job. This is your third time now. I think this is our third time on the podcast. I think you're most now probably maybe. That seems unfair.
Starting point is 00:26:10 You guys are just the most. Yeah. Thank you so much for having us back. Oh, we're glad we can have people back with the virus is not as virusing at the moment. That's right. At the moment we're sort of we're being undervirused. And so we're allowed to be human, near human. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:24 I like how you have to say that as well. Or you post a photo. It's like, just so you know, there was testing, and the numbers are actually down in Melbourne at the moment. We waited until there was three weeks of no cases, community spread, until we could do this. Exactly. But you've got a new thing that we should mention before we get into our topic.
Starting point is 00:26:43 Yes, I would love to mention that new thing. It's called The Pop Test. It's a science comedy quiz produced with the help of the Australian Broadcasting Corporation. You can get it on anywhere you get podcasts. How many episodes? Are they recorded? Is that right? Or are they not recorded?
Starting point is 00:26:57 Yeah, no, they're all recorded. It's all been done. So you feel good about it. You're not like this is going to bottom out at any point. You're like this is strong all the way through. Oh, I don't feel good about anything. Let're not like, this is going to bottom out at any point. You're like, this is strong all the way through. Oh, I don't feel good about anything. Let's be absolutely clear. There is no risk of me feeling good about
Starting point is 00:27:09 something I've made. But it went pretty well. Yeah, it went pretty well and there were some big guests on there. We had Sean McAuliffe on there. We had the catering show, Kate's. We had Dilruk. We had a bunch of people. We had Norman
Starting point is 00:27:26 Swan, which for anybody who doesn't live in Australia is our virus daddy. Yeah, but speaking of him being a daddy, you might know him from the interview that his son, Jonathan Swan, did with Donald Trump. It was quite a good interview. The confusing main...
Starting point is 00:27:42 So if you want to know what his dad's like, if you're a fan of a meme of a guy shuffling some papers and looking at them confusedly, and there is a link there, you would like this. That was how we pitched this show. If you like his confused face, you should hear what his dad's confused face sounds like. Anyway, what's the show about? Tell us what it's about. We pick a big topic from science.
Starting point is 00:28:12 We have three rounds. First, we go through the history of our discovery of what we know about that field of science, like evolution or the atom. How do we get to our current understanding? Then we have a middle round where we just ask people to make up some bullshit. And then we have a speed round at the end because everything has a speed round. It sounds like it should be a televisual show also. Is that something you could work on maybe?
Starting point is 00:28:32 You would know somebody who knows television. Sean McAuliffe? We know people. I mean, you know, we'll see how it goes. We're just trying to get through this season. Let's see if it can all get aired. And then if we can do that, then maybe, you know, there's an episode where Greg Larson mentions semen within the first,
Starting point is 00:28:51 I don't know, 30 seconds. Excellent. So, look, we'll see if we make it all. And this is on the. And that episode has not aired yet? It's not aired. No, that's actually the last episode. Good call.
Starting point is 00:28:59 Very good call. Good call. Yeah, because it's also one of the funnest. Very, very funny episode. Because it's entirely possible that will air and Kerry Packer will be listening. That's right. And we'll call up Good call. But it's also one of the funnest. Very, very funny episodes. Because it's entirely possible that will air and Kerry Packer will be listening and he will call up Channel 9 and he will say,
Starting point is 00:29:11 get this off the air. And they'll pull it off. Like, what was that? Doug Mulleray's on his turn of videos. Don't test me, Al, I know. He has this locked and loaded. Yeah. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:29:24 I mean, everything you guys have done has been terrific I feel like us being here is the greatest gift you could ever give us because being in your presence, seeing you both You know, I just saw James and Maisel there's a trampoline out there I don't know if you know this, they just jump on it together I thought it was for the kids
Starting point is 00:29:40 but they actually just jumped, they were holding hands Pod, cuss, podcast, podcast. It's actually really beautiful. So it's actually, you don't realize how close these guys are. You guys have a show coming up for the Melbourne International Comedy Festival, which I like to think I'm not jinxing by saying it will definitely happen this year. It will definitely happen. Seems like it's happening, right?
Starting point is 00:29:58 Well, yeah, we have a show called Teleport. Tickets are on sale. It's at the Melbourne Comedy Festival. It's us as fake engineers, but we're actually real engineers in real life. So we're actually the only people who are both real engineers and fake engineers at the same time. And we feel like we've come up
Starting point is 00:30:14 with a teleportation device and I think we're trying to sell it to the investors. And I've got to say, some hijinks occurs. Yeah, it's like it doesn't go entirely smoothly. It's not the smoothest it could go. It's a bumpy road, even though you don't have to... You know, a teleportation device would allow you to bypass roads. Could you think maybe you could derive some humor from that,
Starting point is 00:30:32 the fact that it's a bumpy road? You know, we're going to... Can you make those changes? It's probably too late in the day to put that in now. I mean, it's about teleportation. I think incorporating roads somehow is going to actually make it a little... It's going to require some rewrites, but you know what? As a favor to you, yes, thank you. It's going to actually make it a little it's going to require some rewrites but you know what? As a favour to you, yes. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:30:47 It's been a few weeks. There's only a few weeks to go and you have several kids but I'm sure you'll find the time. Don't worry. We still have to find the time to finish writing it. So anyway, both shows are linked below. Thank you so much. The podcast you can listen to right now. My goodness. It's terrific.
Starting point is 00:31:04 But you're not just here to spruik it. No. A terrific show and a live show. That is part of it. This is probably something you should have done with Dave Warnke because he does a book cheat podcast. But I think you guys are even better because you're engineers and you've read things, books, correct?
Starting point is 00:31:17 Absolutely. And we've just been on Dave Warnke's book cheat podcast. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. We've just come straight from it actually, hot. Oh, my goodness. All booked up. What book did you talk about? We'll bleep it out because obviously we don't want to spoil it here.
Starting point is 00:31:31 I think it's out. Didn't it come out? There was one episode that came out and then the second episode came out. It's Grapes of Wrath. So it's such a big, big old book. So he split it up into two. Do people get really excited about what book he's going to do? I do.
Starting point is 00:31:44 If people spoil it, they get angry. Sad and angry, yes. Angry. Yeah. Sangria. Yes. So what we're going to do, we're going to do one of our famous episodes with extra people where we just list some things that we remember.
Starting point is 00:31:59 And in particular, the topic is movies that were based on books, which as we discussed prior to this is almost everything. Yeah. But we've narrowed down what books means, right? Yes. Because a lot of things could be considered books. Yeah. So what would you say about Beowulf?
Starting point is 00:32:15 I've written that down. And that's a long-form poem. This is excelling some crowd. When I was doing my research, I didn't get into sagas. Okay. Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. And also, you know, sometimes when we talk about these things, we'll have neither read the book nor watched the movie,
Starting point is 00:32:30 and Beowulf is probably a prime example of that. That's perfect. Sometimes when we do these particular episodes, I imagine, like, the room is slowly filling with water and I'm just grasping at whatever references I fully understand, which is almost none of them, and an attempt to escape. I wonder if Beowulf holds the record for like the longest time between when the book came out
Starting point is 00:32:50 it wouldn't even have been a book right? It would have just been like an oral tradition and then when the film finally got made you know it's just development hell it's very hard to get something through The Bible? The Old Testament? Ah the Bible yes famously old book That was going to be one of my first suggestions was going to be Passion of the first suggestions. It was going to be
Starting point is 00:33:06 Passion of the Christ. And do you think it's better than the book? For me, it was better. It's shorter, I think, and I like that. I mean, a lot of the time when you're watching a movie based off of a book, and you've read the book, and you're like, oh, they cut out all these scenes that I loved.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Like that. And they definitely did a bit of that in there. Yeah, okay, yeah. There's no walking on water or anything like that. Do you think there are any churches where they just play snippets from Passion of the Christ instead of reading the... Yeah, I would say so. Or they get the altar boys to act it out, perhaps.
Starting point is 00:33:37 That's good. But it's the stage version of the film rather than just stuff from the Bible. Yeah, that's right. When you get a substitute priest in, he just puts on Passion of the Christ. All right, everyone, sit down. Get comfortable. I'm here.
Starting point is 00:33:51 Drags out the TV. Yeah. Just rattling out on one of those old trolleys. Yeah. I love it. I guess we could say Moses. Like Moses. Are we doing Bible stuff?
Starting point is 00:33:59 Why not? We're doing exclusively Bible stuff until we run out of jokes about it. Did you see the Ten Commandments with Charlton Heston? Remember that one? No, he was busy that day. Yes. He's done it. He's done it.
Starting point is 00:34:11 I don't get it. I didn't see it with him. He was busy being dead. Oh, my God. Oh, I'm going to have to leave. Best reaction that's ever gotten. I guarantee you there are people at home who have never gotten that joke, though, because I know you've done it a few times.
Starting point is 00:34:29 That's fine. Don't feel bad. It's not really a joke, so I'm fine with that. I think it's a joke. You guys, you do jokes. It's a joke, right? That's a joke. It is a joke.
Starting point is 00:34:36 That's a genuine. Very good. Okay, I want to ask you guys specifically about this one, because let's do Bible stuff. What do you think of the davinci code uh and the other one angels and demons which they made into tom hanks thrillers now i have not seen the second one the angels and the demons but that was a terrible book yes you've read the book i have read the book i've read both the books i think they're excruciating
Starting point is 00:35:02 book actually i've only read davinci code and it was very difficult I think they're excruciating books. Actually, I've only read Da Vinci Code and it was very difficult. They are excruciating. And I think what, you know, you put it in the hands of a talented director like Ronald. Yeah. Ronald McCoward. And he can shave off a lot of the uncomfortable edges. I agree.
Starting point is 00:35:21 You chuck a Tommy Hanks in front of the screen. Give him that hair. Yeah. That hair he had. And it's entirely watchable. So in the movie, in the second movie, Paul Bettany plays, is it Paul Bettany? No, that's the first movie.
Starting point is 00:35:34 Paul Bettany is the albino monk who whips himself. I'm just trying to get to the parachuting. I know, I know. Sorry, yeah. Oh, yes. There's a parachuting pope. Yes. Is that in the book? Yeah. Okay, yeah. Oh, yes. There's a parachuting pope. Yeah. Is that in the book?
Starting point is 00:35:45 Yeah. That is the plot. The book is a... This guy wants to destroy the Vatican with antimatter. That's right. To create a false miracle that will allow him to become the new pope. And he's young. And he's young.
Starting point is 00:35:59 This guy's young. He's got it, but he was a bad guy. Somebody looked at that and said, young pope, let's turn that into something. Is that the same character that they turned into the young pope tv series i hope so the parachuting pope i hope so given the choice i would definitely green light anti-matter pope over young pope though oh yeah there's a concept there actually there was an anti-pope what is it there was an anti-pope there was something there was there was a period of time where there were two popes and there was a pope and an antipope. Was the antipope a satanic pope? I think he was just they voted.
Starting point is 00:36:31 The church split up. They chose another pope. People called him the antipope. And I just think it would be interesting to see. Like the antichrist. Was that the idea? What happened if you threw them at each other really hard? Or was that A-U-N-T-Y pope?
Starting point is 00:36:42 They were Americans. So like Edna and she was like the first time, she was sort of like a big lady. Oh, yeah. She'd go to her house, she makes you tea. Great to see you. What the information I've got here on the antipope is, it says about this person,
Starting point is 00:36:54 it's commonly considered to be the earliest antipope, which means there's been multiple antipopes running about over the years. Incredible. I like how this has gone. If the position's vacant, I might declare myself the new, if the position's vacant, I might declare myself the new anti-Pope. Yeah, why not? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:37:09 But anyway, I think those movies are better than the books. I agree. Yeah. And again, they're not like great, like amazing movies, but they're just, they're thrillers and Tom Hanks and whatever, and he's running about. So is it just a case of Tom Hanks' charisma carries it over the line? No, I think there's competent filmmaking there.
Starting point is 00:37:23 Yeah, I agree. Yeah. Well, we could put both of those in the No, I think there's competent filmmaking there. Yeah, I agree. Yeah. Well, we could put both of those in the poster, I think. Agree. Carries it over the line in competent filmmaking. It's fine, I guess. I was trying to think. This is a hard thing for me.
Starting point is 00:37:34 I was trying to think of, like, comedy movies, like where you've got a funny book. MASH? And you successfully. Was that a book? It might have been, yeah. I'll look into that while you. But you successfully then turn it into a
Starting point is 00:37:45 equally funny film. I think that is like, because there are so many great movies based on books. Yeah. That's true. We're all agreed here. The Godfather. That's based on books. Oh my god. Famously. Famously. Terrific book. Never read it. No. Good book?
Starting point is 00:38:02 No, I don't know. I have no idea either. But you know, I heard the films were good. But actually funny ones, every funny book I've liked that I've gone to see the film has almost always made me sad. What about like a High Fidelity? How are you feeling on that? I asked my wife her suggestions. That was the first thing she said.
Starting point is 00:38:20 She said High Fidelity is a great adaptation. I said, you're right, it is. She's done it. Yeah, she nailed it in one. I don't think they've done it. And her name high fidelity is a great adaptation. I said, you're right, it is. She's done it. Yeah, she's nailed it in one. And her name? Mr. Sunday Movies. That's right, we're married. We had a little ceremony on the travel aid. Yeah, I mean, look, I wonder, is there a
Starting point is 00:38:40 chance that some people have too good a delivery in their brain and that when you read a funny book you nail the delivery you make it so funny sure yeah right because no interference it's got that clear like line to the reader and then you put it in the mouth of actors or babes you know that's supposed to be babies you know that that stupid thing i'm not supposed to be babies. That stupid thing. I'm not talking about actors in bed. I'm so sorry. I want to apologize.
Starting point is 00:39:08 Nobody say anything. Let him talk his way out of this. Al doesn't consider babes to be actors. This is interesting. So you think there should be a Best Supporting Actor and a Best Supporting Babe award? He's talking about the adaptation of Shakespeare's Bikini Car Wash. Look, through the lens from which I was speaking earlier,
Starting point is 00:39:29 I wasn't aware of the wider issue. You're speaking through a lens. See, that's your problem. You look through a lens. Yeah, look, I think some actors can't get the lines as good. Yeah. I also think, though, that, like, it is just that problem of, like, comedy works the best when you hear it the first time, right?
Starting point is 00:39:44 Yeah. And then if you really it the first time, right? Yeah. And then if you really liked the jokes in a book, you then go and see it in a movie. You're like, why doesn't this joke, why doesn't it seem as funny now? Yeah, it doesn't land. Yeah. Because it didn't surprise me at all. It was your favorite book and you read it ten times. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:58 Yeah, exactly. Well, you guys, between all of us, we've watched somewhere between zero and I think five episodes of the TV series The Watch, which is based on the Terry Pratchett novel. I was just looking at the title of the episode and it says movies based on books, not shows. So I'm just going to veto this. Okay, don't worry about it. Even though we extensively talked about this before the show
Starting point is 00:40:19 that we weren't going to talk about it. I'm sorry, but I have to step in. And the title of the episode is decided? It's already up. People are listening to it, so it's up. We actually don't choose the titles of the episodes. They're just sent to us from a mysterious source. We don't know.
Starting point is 00:40:34 Come in an envelope. It comes in one of those Illuminati devices, you know, the wheels, yeah, DaVinci Code style. But sorry, continue. Codex. Thank you. Do you guys think that it's good, this show? Well, maybe I'll let Alistair go first.
Starting point is 00:40:48 Wow. Thank you so much. Well, this is okay. Now, this is speaking from somebody who hasn't read the book, but I did play a lot of the Discworld Mud. The multi-user dungeon. The multi-user dungeon that is entirely a text-based RPG on like a DOS kind of screen.
Starting point is 00:41:06 Sure, yeah. And I got a good feel for Ankh-Morpork, which I believe is how it was the first time I said it out loud. But watching the TV show, first episode, I was like, I'm not going to like this. Firstly, I already have an aversion to British TV shows. Really? Yeah, I do. I just go, oh, are you guys going to not make this boring? Do you think it's like it's a cheap thing?
Starting point is 00:41:31 It's an accent thing? What do we? I think there's often a cheap look to it. And then another part is just dumb stubbornness. So, yeah, it's me being a dumb guy. Have you been burned before? What burned you? What was the last thing you burned that burned you?
Starting point is 00:41:46 I think it would just be that thing where you'd flick from one channel to another and then Stephen Fry would be on TV he'd be in an office and he'd be talking about something briefly and then you'd go oh my god this is so boring and then you'd just flick away and then you'd base an opinion on that
Starting point is 00:42:02 sort of three seconds entirely. Yeah, yeah. Like that. Anyway, I watched the first episode. I was like, oh, this is not going to be very good. It doesn't feel like the jokes are kind of landing in the way that when I have read some Discworld stuff. It's like his jokes are so good and strong and they're like – anyway. And his concepts are – it's always so jam-packed with really strong comedic ideas.
Starting point is 00:42:25 And it didn't feel like these people were nailing it. Then I watched two or three episodes and I thought the main character was weird. And then I was like – and then I really started to like the main character. And I thought that the way that he was, I was like, oh, that's actually really hard for an actor to be like that all the time. Because I went and looked at photos of what the actor looks like normally and just looks like a normal guy. And then suddenly I was like, oh. But on the television, he's a bit odd. Yeah, he was strange. But he was in the moves. He was a normal guy. And then suddenly I was like, oh. But on the television, he's a bit odd. Yeah, he was strange.
Starting point is 00:42:47 But he was in the clothes. He was a real character. I don't know. I like the way that they've set it in that there's an aspect, I think, that appeals to me in which they've gone, it is set in this kind of weird old-timey thing. But at the same time, you get it. It's like we still can just wear normal shirts and stuff.
Starting point is 00:43:07 Yeah. Just like whatever. Who cares? You know, you get it. It's like office shirts with pens in them. Yeah. Basically, like people are just going to wear like a jacket from like Uniqlo or Uniqlo or whatever.
Starting point is 00:43:15 Yeah, right. And then a couple of people in costume. But I thought the stories were good and I could see how it's like it's a very, yeah, I was enjoying it. Anyway. And Matt Berry's a talking sword oh that's good, I like that and the guy who plays Bunk
Starting point is 00:43:29 in The Wire is Death oh no way, okay I would not have picked that it's a weird clash because I think American accents and British accents always sound so strange next to each other same thing why I think I find Australians sound so weird in American movies if they Same thing why I think I find Australians sound so weird
Starting point is 00:43:45 in American movies if they keep their Australian accents. It is weird. It always sounds just like, oh, this is a sausage sizzle. We're just having a sausage sizzle. Yeah, I remember seeing like Eric Banner in Funny Paper. I'm like, I know that's what he sounds like. Really uncomfortable. I would prefer it if Hollywood acted like we don't really exist.
Starting point is 00:44:02 Yeah, I'm okay with that. You know. Yeah, not good. I like it. But Yeah, I'm okay with that. You know. Yeah. Not good. I like it. But overall, I was enjoying the two series. Okay. Is this something that you think people are enjoying? I've no idea.
Starting point is 00:44:12 I've got no read on this. I have two points of reference. One is me. I watched the first episode and I had the worst time of my life. Interesting. And two, my friend Martin Dunlop is watching it and tweeting about it and he seems to also be having a really bad time. We're both big fans of the Discworld and we've read all the stories.
Starting point is 00:44:29 It's a little bit cringy in places. Oh, nice. There's some, you know. Lots of death on the internet. Yeah, there's some dance sequences towards the point. Oh, dear. Like flash mob style? In a way, sure.
Starting point is 00:44:42 Sort of magically induced dance situations. Yeah, it's a show that I probably, if I was a really big fan of the Discworld novels, I probably wouldn't get people together and be like, let's all watch this together. Even if, I think the only way I'd watch it with other people is
Starting point is 00:44:59 if we're all huge fans of the Discworld books and we're like, well, let's just grit our teeth and sort of get through this together. I don't think it's a bad show. It's interesting in a way. They've made choices, right? They have, yeah. They've made big, big choices that have cost a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:45:16 Yeah, I mean, yeah. And they have stuck to them and that's incredible. And especially when you've got a big thing like that with huge fans and a really established world, to make the choice of we're going to chuck out most of this is... To make it more like Game of Thrones-esque, do you think? It doesn't come across very Game of Thrones-y. No, I think it's an attempt to just move away from everybody's wearing
Starting point is 00:45:39 a robe with stars on it and waving a wand and sort of like I feel like the Discworld novels are sort of, you know, they're satirising Your Lord of the Rings and the fantasy tropes at the time. And I think this production has been like, okay, well let's satirise what is currently happening in fantasy and also entertainment generally. Yeah, maybe.
Starting point is 00:46:03 I wasn't totally sure. It didn't feel like the comedy was very strong at all. Yeah. Like especially for Discworld, which the comedy is very strong. I think it's just so hard because so much of it comes from the narrator. And how do you translate the funny voice of a narrator explaining things, sometimes at length, sometimes really extraneous details. You know, all that little detail that's in that narrator's voice
Starting point is 00:46:30 that you just can't put that into the voice of one of the characters. You can't cram it in somewhere. So it's then interesting it doesn't have a narrator. Yeah. Like you'd think if they got a Stephen Fry, you know, according to Al, the most boring man in the world, You'd think if they got a Stephen Fry, according to Al, the most boring man in the world,
Starting point is 00:46:50 like a recognisable figure to lend some credence to it. But you see, I'm impossible to please. Because I recently watched Good Omens and they did do that. They had a narrator and I hated that even more. Oh, no. That one's widely regarded. I watched that recently. I liked that a lot I didn't read any of the source material though
Starting point is 00:47:07 so maybe I'm wrong No, it's definitely me As long as it's you When I first read a Discworld book it was only about five years ago and then I realised that Andy who read them as a kid and having known Andy I read those books and I saw the joke formats
Starting point is 00:47:23 and I went, oh this is Andy's source code. Like this is what is behind Andy's personality and Andy's humor and everything like that. Like there is actually no Andy. He is just like a compiled version of those books and it's taken human form. So that's maybe why he – it's like that scenario scenario where a person sees a person who's exactly like them and they want to kill them. That's why Andy tries to destroy these productions
Starting point is 00:47:51 on something with an audience like this so that he can be the only one. That's right. Correct interpretation. Incredible. That's a little bit inside. I like that. Thanks so much. I did read them a lot Yeah
Starting point is 00:48:06 Did you play The Mud? I didn't play The Mud But I did play The Point and Click Adventure With Eric Idle As the voice of Rincewind Oh that's fun It was really fun
Starting point is 00:48:16 I found that very funny That was a good adaptation Good I never played that The Mud didn't have any voices I played so many hours That's where most of my uni hours went I've got to look it up
Starting point is 00:48:29 It's still up I just checked it out last night It's still up there I just want to quickly mention We're probably not really going to talk about Harry Potter Or Lord of the Rings or The Hobbit But we know they exist That's good
Starting point is 00:48:40 Those are adaptations of books into a movie. What about something, what about Jurassic Park? Because the novel, they're different. They're very different. Of course. And they're very science-based and there's like diagrams of DNA. There's more circuit diagrams. Yeah, exactly, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:00 Are they like robots in the book? Like the dinosaurs? Yeah. No, no, they're not. No, they're circuit because there's like hacking and sequences. Oh, wow. Like in the movie. And he puts in circuit diagram?
Starting point is 00:49:12 Yes. Like in the movie, for example, one of the kids might hack into, you know, the gates of the Jurassic Park computers or something like that. Very good. Well, in the book you'll see the actual menus. Like they've been illustrated in the book. Yeah. Like, and they'll be clicking.
Starting point is 00:49:29 So kids can read that and know actually how to hack into the gates of a dinosaur enclosure. Precisely, yes. It's educational. Are they using hacking to mean navigating the folders in a computer? Because it was 91 or whatever it came out i can't remember but yeah because that was it was weird that that kind of operating system type thing never the one that was in the movie never took on the one where you you travel like you're flying
Starting point is 00:49:55 above the folders and kind of find it's like just slowly gliding they're all unnamed blocks yeah how do you find it you're in your job at an office and you're doing that and your boss is yelling over your shoulder. You're like, I'm flying through the folders as fast as I can, boss. We're doing my best. We've made computers to do – Took a wrong turn. To store all our data, but we've done it in such a way
Starting point is 00:50:19 that it takes longer to find anything than just walking through a big room. That's it. I think also the book, though, it's more sinister. It's darker. And I know at one point James Cameron wanted to make it and Spielberg made it kind of this like the wonder of dinosaurs and nature and whatever. And there was a lot of science in it, obviously.
Starting point is 00:50:38 But like the book, I can imagine James Cameron version would have been more like Aliens-esque. I think it was going to go with more horror elements, which I think would have been more closer Aliens-esque. I think it was going to go with more horror elements, which I think would have been more closer to the book. But I think they're both great. You think it's fine, Jurassic Park, but I think it's great. It's definitely like one of the first and best cinema experiences I think I'd had as a kid where you're like, this is incredible.
Starting point is 00:51:02 And you're just a kid and you just see somebody get stepped on by a dinosaur and you're like, all right. All right, that's my thing. I didn't watch it for so long because I saw, like, caught a glimpse of it over the back of the couch when somebody was watching it one time and I was so terrified. Really? Yeah, of the T-Rex eating people in a car or something. I was like, I will not be anywhere near this.
Starting point is 00:51:24 I will build my life around avoiding this film. So how old were you when you saw it? I would say like 25. Really? Wow. And what did you think? Was it all right? Pretty scary.
Starting point is 00:51:37 Pretty scary. You were right. Yeah. Did you watch any of the others? I've seen the new one. No, I think I've seen all of them now. Yeah, probably. Hey, that new one, sorry, this is just like a slight...
Starting point is 00:51:49 There was a huge preview. This is all the sites, don't worry about it. Okay, great. There was a huge trailer or preview where there was people just in a campground or whatever in trailers. Yeah, that's for the next one. Oh, that's the one that's still yet to come. Yeah, that's next July maybe. I can't remember. It's the time to
Starting point is 00:52:05 die? Is that the one? That's exactly right. That's right. That's the name of the new park. Jurassic Park, it's time to die. We may as well. Why lie about it? This is going to go badly. It's gone badly every other time. You've seen our track record.
Starting point is 00:52:23 Why do you care? We'll take your money, but we're not sure why you're offering it to us, quite frankly. One of the times, just a disaffected kid just waving people through the gates. This time you go straight into the mouth of a T-Rex. We found actually a lot of the other stuff was just sunk cost. It wasn't getting used. People never even got to it, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:46 That's it. Well, you guys mentioned No Time to Die. There's a bunch of James Bond movies that are based on books, but the most different one is probably Casino Royale, which is like name only. That's one that you've read, Mason? I've read Casino Royale, sure. And?
Starting point is 00:53:00 I mean, again, speaking of diagrams, there's a lot of people explaining how Baccarat works. There's a lot of games of Baccarat happening in real time. So if you enjoy that. So it's like I've got a two, but he's got a two also, I think. Is it like that? Now let's wait and see what happens. Is that what the key to being a prolific writer is?
Starting point is 00:53:24 Because I know Melville put into Moby Dick a bunch of just descriptions of different types of whales. And you just basically get a textbook on or like a – Well, people may be aware there's like an airport book writer called Lee Child. He created Jack Reacher, a famously enormous man who's played by Tom Cruise in the Jack Reacher, famously enormous man who's played by Tom Cruise in the Jack Reacher movies. And if you just look up like Jack Reacher choice passages, there's a scene in one of his books where Jack Reacher checks his emails and it's like he moves the mouse and the cursor moves on the screen
Starting point is 00:54:00 and he clicks the folder. Ah, that contains the files, he thinks to himself. And it's literally, i've read a few and that's literally all his books like it's is it the case of like this is where an email was new and lee child had just gone to like his niece's house and watched her open an email and had his mind absolutely blown and said i have got to communicate this wonder of technology and and he's just writing for people who are also having their mind blown by technology. And they're like, I get it. The grandkids have shown me how to do this.
Starting point is 00:54:32 He really brought that email to life. You've got to read him. Nobody writes an email scene like Lee Child. An email scene. I watched this recently, the other day, actually, American Psycho, but I've never read the book. I watched this recently the other day. Actually, American Psycho, but I've never read the book. I've read the book. Yeah, which is boring.
Starting point is 00:54:49 It came sealed in plastic when I bought it. Oh, my goodness. Rated R. Like a body bag kind of thing or like a? No, like a. It'd be cool, though. That would be cool. Sell it in body bags.
Starting point is 00:54:58 That'd be very cool, yeah. So a kid couldn't open it? So a kid couldn't open it in a bookshop, yeah. Okay. And read all the naughty passages. Yeah. Yeah. Because there's lots of sex and murder. in a bookshop, yeah. Okay. And read all the naughty passages. Yeah. Yeah. Because there's lots of sex and murder.
Starting point is 00:55:07 And sex and murder, yeah. Yeah. Chainsawing. Does he look at himself in the mirror while he's having sex, like in the book? Sometimes he does, yeah. Oh, great. But it's most, I mean, the device of that book is that it's ultimately
Starting point is 00:55:16 really, really, really dull and then very, very, very violent. But imagine like 30 chapters of that in a row. It's like he describes like his workout routine and he describes what he's wearing and he's like you know but the cologne he's putting on and then he goes to work and then he murders somebody and then the day starts again and it's just that over and over again and like the device is meant to be oh i see his life is so mundane then he done a murder but yeah it's really dull. And the movie really cuts to the chase. Well, they had that scene once at the start where he does his routine
Starting point is 00:55:49 and skin care and crunches. It's all that. But you have to imagine it with the theatre of the mind. Yuck, I say. You would say that the movie's better? Yes. Yeah. It's great, actually, because a lot of the time,
Starting point is 00:56:00 like, movies, books are really long. Yeah. And then they do have, like, a lot of extraneous stuff because people are just trying to fill up page numbers, I guess. I feel like movies are getting longer and books are getting shorter. And I think eventually they're going to meet. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:15 It'll take just as long. They're all 40 minutes each. Man, I would read more books if they were 40 minutes. Like if it was just kind of like, you could just get a novel. I think you're referring to children's books. Like even smaller than a novella.
Starting point is 00:56:27 Okay. Like a novelette. One of my, when I was trying to think of funny books that have been successfully adapted to funny movies, I was like, maybe the most successful one is Shrek. Shrek's a kid's book, isn't it? Yeah. I don't know if kid's books count. But like, I remember when I first saw Shrek,
Starting point is 00:56:47 I thought it was one of the funniest things I'd ever seen. Shrek is funny. Like it's become, God damn it. No, it is. It is. I agree. It's become, and I guess I think the one weakness of it is it's very pop culture heavy,
Starting point is 00:56:58 which kind of dates it. Dates it. But I think there's a lot of very good jokes in Shrek and visual gags and character work. Wrong cast. Dragon has sex with a donkey. That's funny. Yeah, I agree.
Starting point is 00:57:13 On the opposite end of that. In book or movie form. Funny. I'd listen to it via audio. Paper audio. Donkey, dragon, sort of intercourse thing. On the opposite end of that... What about as a mud? You know what? I would try that. If there was a mud,
Starting point is 00:57:30 somebody wrote a mud where they described you as a donkey. You're a donkey, you get to make choices, sex choices, on how you're going to do this dragon. Obviously, if it was just a donkey doing a donkey, I don't know if I would play that mud. But maybe. I would try it.
Starting point is 00:57:46 Where's the escapism? That's training for while I wait for the dragon one to come out. But on the opposite end of a kid's book becoming funny is Where the Wild Things Are. That's dreary, isn't it? It's like they've taken a book
Starting point is 00:58:01 which was pretty fun. It's kind of fun. It doesn't go for that long, but then the kids kind of have a good time. And then somehow they made all the monsters super depressed. It's about growing up and depression. Yeah. And getting real sad. I don't know. I didn't find any fun in that movie.
Starting point is 00:58:21 Did you watch that with your kids? No. I think I was on a plane, and I was like, oh, let's just see what this is like. It looks good. It looks really good. Oh, the animatronics are amazing. And the soundtrack is a great album.
Starting point is 00:58:36 I have it on vinyl. Really? Yeah. I listen to it a lot. Books based on vinyl. No, nothing. Vinyl based on movies based on books. That's another episode.
Starting point is 00:58:46 We'll get to that. Yeah, no, I was going to say, I thought you were going to say Cat in the Hat, which I haven't seen, but it just looks like a nightmare. I've seen bits and pieces, and I think both of those live action Dr. Zeus ones, the Grinch and Cat in the Hat, they both are a mess. I think I saw the beginning of the Cat in the Hat, and you're going into the town. It's a mess.
Starting point is 00:59:11 It's like all the stuff that Zeus would have taken out of his book. Because they have to make it an hour and a half. I guess so, yeah. But I mean, I'm sure you could make that house, like everything that happens in that house, interesting for an hour or an hour and a half or whatever. See, I've thought, because I read that book a lot to my kid, or I did, but there is a lot in there.
Starting point is 00:59:33 There's a lot of adventure and chasing each other around and he pulls out interesting things and, like, it's, you know, the mum's coming home and it's, yeah. I think it probably maybe work would be, I don't know if you've ever seen the woman who does what the fuck are they called like the Gruffalo there's like 30 minute animated shorts
Starting point is 00:59:51 they're British they are really good and they're just like the perfect length of time and they're beautiful and they capture the books really well and they've actually added a little bit of stuff mostly through just the animation. You get character work from the cat that's in there
Starting point is 01:00:09 who's from the room on the broom. Or you get different things like that where you go, wow, you've really added something to this. Because the words would only go for a few minutes. Yeah, that's right. Exactly. You're listening to dad talk. Dad's talking about kids' shit.
Starting point is 01:00:22 But they're genuinely so good, like those ones. Yeah. And it's also a great thing to put on right before the end of the day because they're also super calm. Yeah, exactly. And it's not something that hypes the kid up. And it's not a movie that goes through it. I think there are some books where you read it and you're like,
Starting point is 01:00:37 man, I'd love to see that. Yeah. Or you're like, oh, I wonder what was really going on with it. There are short ones where it's like, do androids dream of electric sheep? We are like, well, there's not a lot here, but there's a lot. It opens up a whole world. It would be really interesting to see this fleshed out with fleshed and blood people.
Starting point is 01:00:56 Fun, yeah. I thought you meant like the buildings and stuff would be made of meat and things like that. That's interesting. Yeah. That's interesting. Okay. So this is the next level of Blade Runner where instead of making robots covering them in flesh,
Starting point is 01:01:11 now we're covering everything in flesh. We've gone flesh mad. You've got a flesh fridge, flesh toilet. Imagine that. It's just right into flesh. I shan't imagine that. I'm picturing it. It's got a tongue and teeth. I don't imagine that. I'm picturing it. It's got a tongue and teeth.
Starting point is 01:01:27 I don't like it. I don't like it. The tongue runs around the inside of the bowl. It's a self-cleaning mouth toilet. It's pretty good. I'm like a Flintstones-style television show where everything is a flesh nightmare. How do you think you have a crap job?
Starting point is 01:01:46 With a tongue. It's a living. This is exactly what something Philip K. Dick would have written, though. So are we better than him? Yes. I think it's safe to assume we are better than him. It's like the Cadbury ad where the world is made of chocolate and all the people are made of chocolate and the house is made of chocolate.
Starting point is 01:02:03 I don't get it. It's weird. I don't like it made me scared yeah it's like that Eiffel 65 song where everything is blue
Starting point is 01:02:10 everything was blue and the toilet's got a tongue and teeth don't watch it again I'm blue that's why he's blue but then there are some things
Starting point is 01:02:18 where it feels like a very closed universe and especially things like Cat in the Hat where it's like this is so structured and so rhymed and it's like he said everything everything there's nothing there's no nothing nowhere else for anything to fit in yeah and so why would you try and then force a whole lot of stuff into that
Starting point is 01:02:36 because of money i get it now and i'm going to i'm gonna make a live action adaptation of there once was a man from Nantucket. You've inspired me. You're very welcome. You know what I think, Scott? Like a pretty good track record, but also there's some horrible work in here. The stuff that Stephen... Yeah, mixed bag.
Starting point is 01:02:59 Mostly good, I would say Stephen King, because you could do like Shawshank the Shining, which he hated and remade in a worse way. He directed his own version of it. Of The Shining? Yeah, he made his own version. Is it a TV miniseries? I think it might be, yeah. Like It, there's multiple versions of that. The Body, which is Stand By Me, is a Stephen King.
Starting point is 01:03:16 Did I say Shawshank? I think I did. Yeah, so there's a lot of really good stuff there. That's Shane Warne's favourite movie. Is it? Australian fast bowler Shane Warne, yeah. Oh, well, yeah. Spin bowler.
Starting point is 01:03:26 Oh, sorry. I took a shot. I didn't. You could have just said bowler, but you had to. I needed an extra syllable, all right? Yeah, I mean, that's amazing. And it also reminds me of the fact that Stephen King has been around for so long and doesn't seem that old.
Starting point is 01:03:44 Like, how can you have written the book that The Shining was based on, which was made 200 years ago, and still just be like a guy? Yeah, because I remember there's a recent interview with him where he was asked about it because he was heavily criticised as like a schlock writer at the time. And he was like, what do you think about that now, you critics? And he's like, they're all dead. I don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 01:04:07 He's never cared. You know what I think also helps him? He's got an unusual looking face, so it's hard to tell if he's aging. Oh, yeah, yeah. He's like, you already looked a bit weird. Yeah, yeah, yeah. His son's also very good as well. He's written a bunch of good comics and stuff, yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:22 Awesome. Just FYI. Is it Don King? It's Don good comics and stuff, yeah. Awesome. Just FYI. Is it Don King? It's Don King. Don King, yeah. I was going to go Stephen Prince. Did you guys see Doctor Sleep, the sequel to The Shining? No.
Starting point is 01:04:37 It's very good. Yeah. Yeah. Do they do anything with red rum? Yes. Yeah? It's in a mirror or whatever, you know, probably. I can't remember.
Starting point is 01:04:45 No, I haven't seen it. I enjoyed the first Shining. Here's a spoiler, so skip ahead if you want to watch it. There's a moment where some telepaths, some evil telepaths turn up to kill Ewan McGregor, who's Danny. And so they turn up and they've all got mind powers and he just shoots them all with a gun. Just a regular gun.
Starting point is 01:05:06 And I'm like, like yeah this is cool and that is a fun idea when they do take someone else's like you know it's like someone else's book or something but then which i guess was made into a movie and then just give it to the two completely different writers who are making something like expanding the somebody else's universe i find is quite a fun and interesting thing like i thought that of the Blade Runner sequel was really, that was a really good example of that. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Really interesting.
Starting point is 01:05:31 Books, you know. Question about Silence of the Lambs. Anybody read that? No? No? I have not. Let's move on. Can I talk about one?
Starting point is 01:05:42 Yeah, definitely. Sorry. Master and Commander the Fast Side of the World. Recently came up on Twitter. Yeah, Russell Crowe was like... That's right, he got into beef with someone. Everyone was like, look at him going off at this person. I was like, this seems like just quite
Starting point is 01:05:55 a well-reasoned defense of his film. Somebody said it wasn't as good as it could have been. He said, I think it is. That seemed like, actually, as far as interactions go on the internet, I was like that's extremely mundane. Russell Crowe throws a virtual telephone at the concierge of criticism. Ah, this COVID time that we're in.
Starting point is 01:06:17 That's right. He has to use his – anyway. Yeah, I read both the book and watched the movie. It's a series, yes? Yeah, huge series. I would love it if they made more movies, but they're not going to. Even though the sea captain in the series is quite a large gentleman and Russell Crowe is now as well.
Starting point is 01:06:40 So that would save money on production. He fluctuates. Whatever you want him to be, he'll do it. But, yeah, really great series. And I enjoyed the film a lot. Like, you know, the series, the books are quite long, a little bit boring, and the movie was like quite long but a bit more exciting and you're like, great.
Starting point is 01:06:59 I remember thinking it was okay. Yeah. But that's all I remember about it. I'll take that. It's one of those ones where I think I kind of half watched it and I was like, oh, this kind of seems boring. But then- It's got a bit British vibes.
Starting point is 01:07:10 Yeah. But then recently, I think they sailed from Britain. Yeah. Maybe. It's poison the whale for you. Yeah. But I think it's one that recently I've heard so many people say that they thought it was a really good movie.
Starting point is 01:07:23 I've got to go back. I've really been wanting to go back and see that one. Another film, which I haven't read the book, but Andy has. But I love the movie. It's basically my favorite movie, which is No Country for Old Men. The Coen brothers. It's so weird that
Starting point is 01:07:37 I find some stuff boring, but things that are just big apocalyptic expanses of Texan desert and sort of like long panning shots and just sadness and economic depravity and things like that. It's very un-British, the movie, as well, isn't it? I guess it's maybe the opposite.
Starting point is 01:07:59 I guess, yeah. Britain is wet. Yeah, you know, this is very dry. I mean, it was weird that Stephen Fry had that big monologue in the middle. Yeah, but there's that weird thing at the end where it's like Llewellyn's wife's mom is in the car and she goes, I got the cancer. And you go, I don't know who this character is. She's a bit over the top for this whole thing. But everything else was great.
Starting point is 01:08:22 It's phenomenal. I was actually talking about that just today with friends. I got the cancer? Not that part in particular. I might actually just send that in the group chat if anybody remembers. But yeah, it is phenomenal. But what about the book? I haven't read it. I don't know where Alistair got that. You said that to me. You said,
Starting point is 01:08:37 the Cormac McCarthy book. That was really good. Wow, was this the end of Alan Andy? What are you talking about? I think we spoke yesterday. You talked to somebody else about this. Now, is this the end of Alan and Andy? What are you talking about? I think we spoke yesterday. I said we should go. You talked to somebody else about this. Maybe that happened in my dream. Genuinely, like, I have a memory of you going, yeah, I read that book.
Starting point is 01:08:56 It was like, yeah, it's like a lot of the stuff was in there. I mean, when you started talking, I was like, maybe I have read that book. And you almost convinced me, but I have absolutely not read that book. Somebody almost convinced me but i have i have absolutely not read that book somebody's gaslighting somebody and we're gonna get to the bottom of it andy i thought you were a yes and god here you are just throwing out under the bus by saying no well i haven't read that book in a book adaptation uh anecdote based on the coen brothers i think that the uh oh brother where art i was based off of the Odyssey. Oh, okay, yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:27 But I think I heard that they based it off the Odyssey, but they hadn't read the Odyssey. That's great. I love that. Yeah. I like that a lot as well. That's how I would go about making an adaptation. I'd be like, I get the gist.
Starting point is 01:09:41 Yeah, because I know like if you see like the behind-the-scenes stuff of Lord of the Rings, it's just like Peter Jackson like constantly thumbing through the, you know, just to make sure he can get as much detail in as possible and they're just like, yeah, fuck, I don't know. I skimmed it, I think. What would you, if you were basing a movie on a book, what parts of the book would you get somebody to sort of describe it to you
Starting point is 01:10:02 or would you just look at the cover and go, ah, there's a master and a commander. I tell you what i i can absolutely guarantee to you what i would do i would go to the wikipedia synopsis yeah and i would go to plot and i would read that and i would get whatever version some lunatic has gone into detail about and then that would become the film you could just sometimes word for word sometimes you look at look at a Wikipedia plot summary and it says, this plot description is too long and excessively detailed. Yeah. Just get the first couple of paragraphs and go, yep, that'll do it.
Starting point is 01:10:34 You're exactly right, yeah. But I probably wouldn't adapt that one. If it said excessively detailed, I'd be like, oh, this is going to be a bit of work. If I saw one that said, this one lacks detail and needs citation, I'd be like, okay, I'm going to have some fun with this. I can really flesh out the world now. That's right, exactly.
Starting point is 01:10:50 Oh, very exciting. I'd also like to mention Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency. Yeah, where are you at on that? Hate it. So once again, it's one where I had a really, really bad time and I couldn't get more than one episode in. Was it the characterisation? Characterisation I despised. The wit uh the lack of it yes I also found that to be lacking a lot of people really
Starting point is 01:11:12 liked it again as well but um yeah I'm talking about the uh the Netflix remake with Elijah Wood is in it yeah yeah yeah um and I just I was that was when i watched it i was like why you this this has got nothing to do with dirk gently solicited detective agency the book why have you like if you want to make something else that's fine you just make something else it's okay you can make the thing you want to make just don't call it the name of this thing and that way it means that somebody else can still make the thing yeah exactly, exactly. I think that's really annoying that somebody ruins a property or even just does an okay job. Because then at least we've got to wait a long time
Starting point is 01:11:51 before another one comes along. There was a Durgently Holistic Detective Agency series, a BBC one, a British one. You would have loved it, Alistair. You've perked up over here. What was his name? Somebody or other, Moffat. Stephen Moffat?
Starting point is 01:12:06 He's the writer right But there's an actor Whose surname is Moffat As well Who was also in episodes With the guy from Friends Joey from Friends Anyway
Starting point is 01:12:15 Little Miss Moffat I liked that a lot Yeah okay Interesting Okay and that was that like It wasn't that interesting No it is Because I think
Starting point is 01:12:22 No it isn't How dare you say that About my statement No but like It wasn't that interesting, James. No, it is because I think... No, it isn't. How dare you say that about my statement? I'm picturing an early 90s BBC comedy and you need a pretty decent budget to make that work and it was still better than what they managed to do on Netflix. I think it was sort of 2000s. It wasn't that long before the remake, but they only got one season
Starting point is 01:12:45 of just a couple of episodes. That's actually not that interesting. You're right. Andy, I feel like we should round it out. What do you think of the movie adaptation of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy? I did not enjoy that. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:12:56 What about the TV version from like the 80s? Now, I haven't seen that, but that one, I wonder, was that even written before the book was? Because there was a radio show and the radio show was turned into a book, but I'm not sure if it was turned into the TV series even before it became the book. Oh. So, yes. Well, there's no way to find out now.
Starting point is 01:13:17 Here's the most obscure deep cut in all of this. Here's an adaptation of a comedy thing I really did like. It was a book called Wilt by an author called Tom Sharp who writes these really absurd, like disgusting kind of books where just like awful, awful, everything goes wrong for the main character over and over again and it's gross and just like, yeah, it's very funny but it's just like it's filthy. And they made us hear.
Starting point is 01:13:46 It turned into Mr. Bean. They took a lot of the weird sex out, but it's implied. He's a very sexual man. He's got that energy, doesn't he? Oh, man, that's a pitch you could do. It's Mr. Bean, but he's fucked. And Mr. Bone, of course. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 01:14:05 Sorry. But they made it. There was just like a telemovie version that they made of that. Called Wilt? Called Wilt. Or The Misadventures of Mr. Wilt. Yeah. Yeah, 89.
Starting point is 01:14:17 With Griff Rees-Jones and Mel Smith. And I think it's really good. I've never heard of anybody who's ever done anything in this. I only know about it because I got a VHS of it of a friend of my dad and watched it. So, I mean, if you want to watch it, get in touch with Phil LaWorthy. I can send you his address. I can show you where he buried it in the woods.
Starting point is 01:14:41 That's where we would all go. He said I was never to tell anybody of this. Incredible. There you go. Are you guys, where are you on? Have you ever read The Time Machine? I have. Which has multiple adaptations.
Starting point is 01:14:54 Yeah. And the one that I've seen is the Guy Pearce one, which I know is not good, but I'm kind of fond of as like a schlocky. I think it's also beautifully, I really like the time machine itself. Like the way, I don't know if you remember, it's all like glass and brass and all that. I've seen the original movie version where
Starting point is 01:15:13 it's like this sort of weird bike. A weird sort of stationary bicycle. It was the early days of the bike. People thought it had more potential than it really did. Imagine if you could cycle through time. I bet there was something, yeah. That's okay, though, that movie, isn't it?
Starting point is 01:15:31 I mean, people would consider it a classic. Yeah. Yeah. I thought it was good. I found it quite scary. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I find a lot of things quite scary. It seems that way, doesn't it?
Starting point is 01:15:39 Yeah. Yeah, it's just hard to not, I mean mean I just love any time travel stuff I don't know why it's like every time you go oh there's a chance that they're gonna see each other again oh they'll get to see me again
Starting point is 01:15:51 it's fun it's fun you know it's like your mind your mind is always engaged because you're like oh this is cool now they're gonna go here
Starting point is 01:15:59 we're gonna see that thing now they're gonna maybe we can change it so you're not caught up on like just a side note I would love to watch a time travel movie with with al and he's just sitting there going oh maybe that maybe they'll oh we're gonna go over here now oh we'll release that as a director's cover yeah there's so many there's so many places like a lot of time they go like
Starting point is 01:16:21 oh we'll just go back to right before this thing happened. You go, you can go back 20 years. You can go back 20 years and fix it by just, you know, knocking on this. Whispering that. Yeah. Like that. Are you caught up though? Because you've got quite an analytical scientific mind. Both of you, you share it.
Starting point is 01:16:34 We do. Yeah, it's in a jar at home. Yeah, does that, would that affect your enjoyment? You're like, well, no, because you can't go back in time because the reason for him going back in time was if he stops himself, then it's not good. Like, do you get caught up on any of that? I think if there's like glaring kind of like what feels like mistakes or whatever. I think if the movie pretends like it's really clever, right? Like makes a big deal of like we've worked out all the details and like act takes itself seriously, that's going to be a problem.
Starting point is 01:17:03 Because you'll be like, well, no, this doesn't actually make sense. I haven't seen it, but yes, I understand. But then you watch Back to the Future and you're like, I couldn't give a shit how this works. No, it doesn't matter. This is just fun. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:14 I want it to work. I don't know if you've seen, and if you haven't, just say you have, Avengers Endgame. Yes, I have. Yes, I have. We've all seen it. Yep, I've seen it. They know how nitpicky fans are and they're the biggest movies in the world.
Starting point is 01:17:34 So there are scenes where they just pull a handbrake and explain time travel and why it's not the back-to-the-future time travel and how it's actually a parallel reality and it's actually a whatever. But they did a pretty good job. I think so. They thought it through. They made the effort to put some reverse engineer the logic that they needed. You can make these things work in a very limited little scope
Starting point is 01:17:57 in which you've ticked all your boxes and they did that, I think. Yeah, yeah. Cool. So we all agree that the biggest movie of all time was pretty good. It was pretty good. For time travel at least i should say coherent coherent yeah gotcha i know i loved that movie yeah end game yeah yeah is that the one that's the one at the end or is that the second last one i always think i thought of infinity where i was like is infinity war the last one but it's the second last one right yes no no that yeah sorry well i
Starting point is 01:18:22 guess it is the second last he hasn't seen it either He's got the Wikipedia page open right now Show of hands if you haven't seen Avengers Endgame 3, 2, 1 Listen back to some of the episodes About this and see if James ever Accidentally says citation needed While he's reading from the page What I was like
Starting point is 01:18:41 Technically the last one was a Spider-Man movie But I was going to get into it but it doesn't really matter, does it? Doesn't matter at all. You got The Martian. I've read the book and I've watched the movie. Did you read the book first? I did. Because the movie was coming out. Yeah, sometimes I'll hear of movies coming out
Starting point is 01:18:57 and I'm like, I'll get on that. Like I'm going to read The Dry, which is Eric Banner's new movie. Yeah, I've heard good things. Yeah, I heard it's not great. I heard from someone it's like, oh no it's just Banner's new movie. Yeah, I've heard good things. Yeah. I heard it's not great. I heard from someone it's like, oh, no, it's just like an okay Australian movie. Yeah, right. Hey, an okay Australian movie. That sounds great.
Starting point is 01:19:12 We're doing really good. I didn't realise we had okay ones. We did it, guys. We did it. We can all be proud. I think we should probably stop. But I thought The Martian was good and the movie was good, and they're both good good and that's good.
Starting point is 01:19:26 Don't you guys think? Well, yes. I mean, look, I did read an article where a guy was like, actually there's something in the soil that wouldn't allow you to grow potatoes and it would kill you once you ate those potatoes. Well, I hope someone killed that guy. And then obviously I got the joy from seeing that guy die. And so that's why I enjoyed The Martian so much.
Starting point is 01:19:44 I've got a time travel question. I've read The Time Traveler's Wife, and I think it's a genuinely wonderful and heartwarming and lovely book. And the movie's Eric Banner again. It's just like whatever. I always confuse that one with the man who mistook his wife for a hat. Any book with a wife in it. Any book with a wife for me is a wife thinking that her husband is a hat
Starting point is 01:20:07 and so that's why i couldn't enjoy that movie as much because i was like why is this hat going through this fourth dimension you are gonna love this i thought i heard this the other day the time traveler's wife is getting adapted into a series with stephen moffat so uh british stephen yeah you kind of but it does say hbo so maybe it's uh you know they're doing he did stuff with into a series with Stephen Moffat, British Stephen Moffat. But it does say HBO, so maybe it's – Oh, you know, they're doing a lot of this. He did stuff with HBO and BBC these days. He did Dracula recently. Was that good?
Starting point is 01:20:33 I saw the billboard. Very bad. It's quite bad. No, it was initially good and then it takes like a weird turn. I reckon Stephen Moffat's got to take a break. I think he's just got to – A time out or a break? I think he's got to take a break i think he's just got a time out or a break i think he's gonna i think he's got to take time out for like five years and just
Starting point is 01:20:50 not make anything for a while because i think he's a bit wrong in yeah he's been doing too much stuff there's a lot of content out there and i just think his ideas the attention that he's able to give to things is not adequate except for jack Jekyll, which you enjoyed, correct? I haven't seen Jekyll. You're okay. You're all right. You're okay. I saw The Jekyll, though.
Starting point is 01:21:12 Oh, yeah, Bruce Willis. Yeah. And there's another one. Yeah. I've only seen the Bruce Willis one. I love that. I love the ideas. The Jekyll, that's the one where he goes like, he's like a spy, killer kind of guy.
Starting point is 01:21:20 But then there's all these places where spies just hang out and they don't kill each other. Yeah. And there was a big scene where he was spray painting a van. I liked that. That's right. He miniguns Jack Black, I think, at one point. He does, yeah. Man, that's good.
Starting point is 01:21:33 And Jack would have been like, Rigg-a-goo-goo, rigg-a-goo-goo. Kablammo! He would have been like that. He's like that. He's like that. I've, uh... We should probably wrap it up, I guess, at some point. I don't think we covered it.
Starting point is 01:21:53 It was pretty comprehensive. I think so. Cloud Atlas also didn't like the film. Yeah, I haven't tried it. I've heard it's pretty ambitious, considering that that book is, like... For sure. But, like, then they put some stuff in there of like that whole thing where,
Starting point is 01:22:08 I don't know if you know that there's the same actors play different characters at different times. That's like not in the book in any way. So what do you think that is though? Why did they do that? It sort of implies some kind of a meaning. Like a reincarnation or like a cyclical? Yeah, but like it's not really clear what it does imply,
Starting point is 01:22:29 but whatever it implies is very big, and that's a big imaginary implication put into the book. If you put it through the filter of like a trans person, which I think the Wachowskis are. Is it they made that movie? Yes, that's right. It feels like it's like one of those like the person who you are on the inside is maybe different to the person.
Starting point is 01:22:48 There we go. You know, like so as in like the same person could be in many different types of bodies maybe over, you know, in whatever the dimensions or whatever they do in that movie. I don't know. That's the limits of my interpretation of this thing. Or you make Hugo Weaving Asian. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:23:03 Or maybe what if Hugo Weaving was from a different continent? What if he was? What if he was? Can I have a billion dollars? I'm going to make a movie. That's what I've got here. Well, I've got others, but like Lord of the Flies. And then Hugo Weaving gets a phone call from one of the Wachowskis
Starting point is 01:23:22 who's like, look, I've got a billion dollars, and so you have to go with me on this. We're going to turn you into a penguin. There's one condition. Sorry, Hugo. I don't get the billion dollars unless we turn you into a penguin. Also, just out of curiosity, didn't you watch Cloud Atlas
Starting point is 01:23:38 and then go, I'm going to write a comedy festival show that's better than this that does this idea better? And he just wrote an idea that was like, this is what Cloud Atlas was trying to do. And he called it String Theory and it was very good. Really? Thanks.
Starting point is 01:23:52 I mean, yeah. I didn't realize that that was, yeah. I was nominated for an award. Yeah, just quite. That's great. That's amazing. Because you saw Cloud Atlas. I saw Cloud Atlas and I was like, I mean,
Starting point is 01:24:02 this is just a bunch of separate stories that implies that they're all connected, right, but with no, giving no details or information about how that could be the case. If that's all it takes, I'll just do that. And I wrote a bunch of stories. Then I wrote some really transparent bullshit to make it seem like they were connected. They had nothing to do with each other.
Starting point is 01:24:23 But you got an award. Well, nominated. Nomination. That you got an award. Well, nominated. Nomination. That's the real award for me. Yeah. I like how I got more excited. I'm going to start an award series show called The Nomies and it's all just nominations.
Starting point is 01:24:38 I love it. I read this as a teen man and then I've seen both adaptations, although there might be more. Lord of the Flies is like a black and white 50s movie, I want to say. There's a late 80s version, which I don't think is as good, but they're pretty solid all around, I think. Did they eat that little kid with glasses? Did they eat him?
Starting point is 01:24:56 Yeah. I think they just hit him with a rock and they left him. It feels like a waste of meat. It sounds like that's what you do before you shuck an oyster. I don't know. Has anyone read those or seen those? I don't recall. I may have.
Starting point is 01:25:13 I mean, I saw the Simpsons episode based off of it, which I think is pretty close. That's all you need. Yeah. I'm really sorry about the, I mean, like about my reading. I've eaten a lot of the fries. I think we all have. Do you get mayo or are you, because I'm kind of against that.
Starting point is 01:25:28 You get a boy who's been hit in the head with a rock. Wrapped up in a. I think that's why the tomato sauce there is free because it's little boy blood. And vinegar. Just to give it that acidy. Terrific stuff. All right, well, thank you for stopping by.
Starting point is 01:25:43 Has anyone else got another thing that they read and watched? I've got a few other things, but it's just going to be more obscure shit. That's fine. I think that's good. Give us one more. Have you read any of the series, Shane Maloney's series, about Whelan, Murray Whelan's series? They're all set in Melbourne, right?
Starting point is 01:26:00 I've heard of it. David Wenham? David Wenham played him in the adaptation, which was directed by Sam Neill and John Clark. Oh. Yeah, and produced by them and they both appear in it. And it's, yeah, they made three for the ABC and they didn't make any more.
Starting point is 01:26:17 I bought them on DVD. Has that got like a Rake vibe? Not, I haven't watched enough Rake to categorically rule that out. But like the books are very funny. They're very like Melbourne, you know. Coffee culture. No way. No, it's a little bit pre-luna park.
Starting point is 01:26:40 Pre-gentrification Melbourne, you know. But like it's, you know, there's a bunch of books in the series. They're all great. I recommend checking them out. Shane Maloney, Murray Whelan series. And then the adaptation I was really happy with and I was like, I would love to see more of this. And then for some reason they didn't make any more.
Starting point is 01:26:59 And now John Clark is dead. Yeah, he is, isn't he? Probably because they didn't make any more. I want that on the record. Well, that's a pretty good group of people to get together and make that, though. It's an amazing cast. Yeah, it's dream.
Starting point is 01:27:14 I think having Wenham as that character is dream casting. You've got a Wenham vibe. I can see that as well. Would you be the new Murray Whelan? I'll take that. I mean, Wenham's too big for Murray Whelan these days. Is he? He was in 300.
Starting point is 01:27:26 Did you see his abs? In 2009? Oh, you mean, I thought you meant like as a star. Both. Like he's beyond it. Yeah. Okay, fair enough. Just out of curiosity, if, you know, before we end this,
Starting point is 01:27:35 do you guys have any dream books that you would like to see turn into movies? Oh, my goodness. I should have thought about this and I didn't. I mean, I could start if you guys want to talk about it. Yeah, yeah. I feel like you asked the question solely, so you've been telling me. Well, I mean, I don't even know if anybody could make this well. But the book that it took me seven years to read, even though it was my favorite book,
Starting point is 01:27:55 and I think it took me, I was still reading it for about three years while saying that it had taken me seven years. So it probably took me about ten years. But it was a book by Don DeLillo called White Noise. And it's kind of a book that feels like not much happens. It's a guy, he's an academic of the head of Hitler Studies at some university. And it's mostly like a family thing.
Starting point is 01:28:22 It's already funny. He's got kids from a previous marriage. His wife's you know he's he's got kids from a previous marriage his wife's called babette she's got kids from a previous marriage and it's all just people talking very confidently about their beliefs right and then and then you know he starts going to a german teacher which is just some guy in some dorm and he the guy makes him stare directly in his mouth and they're just having conversations all the time with like his only friend in this thing seems to be another academic who's an academic in pop
Starting point is 01:28:49 culture and they talk about like the meaning of cereal boxes and the meaning of like you know the trays underneath meat in supermarkets and things like that anyway but then somewhere in there there is some plot where it's like there's a huge gas leak in the city in the town they live in and then some people you know they have to get evacuated some people are freaking
Starting point is 01:29:08 out that it's not being televised it's kind of like it's like it's making fun of america uh but in a got him finally yeah and then and then at the end there kind of is some plot okay yeah that sounds a bit like um like an ian mckeown kind of like yeah meandering about and talking to people and looking in mouths and yeah a lot of looking in mouths yeah and there'sEwan kind of like meandering about and talking to people and looking in mouths. Yeah. A lot of looking in mouths. Yeah. And there's just this kind of this thing where him and his wife have this kind of contest between each other on who fears death the most. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:29:34 Right? And they realize that she's taking some medication and they can't figure out where it's coming from. And that's kind of where the plot sort of actually comes from. This book is only 326 pages. Man. To start. Yeah. It book is only 326 pages. Man. Just. Yeah. It's because I was loving it so much.
Starting point is 01:29:48 I would love it. And I would read two, three pages and I'd go, man, this is so good. Hot damn. And then I'd put it down again for another seven months. And then I'd pick it up again and go, man, I love this. He's looking at that guy. He's like a snake gorging on an entire baby donkey and then he just lies there
Starting point is 01:30:07 digesting it Terrific, that sounds good Should I rate it? I really enjoyed it It made me laugh a lot even though there's no jokes in it maybe there's like one or two jokes in it and those kind of like
Starting point is 01:30:22 they kind of stick out a little bit but it made me laugh a lot Terrific, I don't have an example I wish I did There's like one or two jokes in it and those kind of like, they kind of stick out a little bit. Okay, gotcha, yeah. But it made me laugh a lot. Terrific. I don't have an example. I wish I did. Anybody else got one of the things that they're like, I like this? I mean, you know, all my things would be like Douglas Adams books
Starting point is 01:30:36 or Terry Pratchett books and I would just want a really good adaptation that's exactly what I want it to be and it's never going to happen. I think you guys would be good at adapting something like that. Maybe we'll try. If you're allowed to. I actually once upon a time did a dream casting of a Terry Pratchett book. What's it look like? I wanted David Wenham to play Rincewind.
Starting point is 01:30:57 I don't know. He's the wizard. He's the wizard. I just think he's got such a weird loser vibe to him that he can do so well, and I think it would be perfect. Also, he's got red hair. He does. Which works.
Starting point is 01:31:12 Perfect. Seems perfect. That's the two boxes ticked. No, I think so, definitely. Well, yeah, thanks for coming on, guys. We really appreciate it. Why don't we, Mason, both of us? Yes.
Starting point is 01:31:21 Yeah, good. And we appreciate it also. I want you to know that. Both of us. We're happy that you could be here and do this. Yeah, good. And we appreciate it also. I want you to know that. Both of us. We're happy that you could be here and do this. It's fun and we like it. Dermy Mason. He's reading that from Wikipedia.
Starting point is 01:31:33 For me it was worth it just for the trampoline. That's it. So the pop test, it's linked below. It's an ABC-funded and hosted podcast, correct? Do you explain where the funding comes from for all of your guests' projects? We do. We often do. We just want to – no, I was trying to give it like an air of legitimacy.
Starting point is 01:31:51 Do you know what I mean? Thank you very much. So somebody said these guys have got it. Hot stuff. Yeah, we've made it. We're in the big leagues now, baby. And, yeah, you want to check it out. We like it.
Starting point is 01:32:02 There will be ten episodes coming out for the next eight weeks. Oh, wow. Terrific. Yeah. And I bet you if lots of people listen, there could be a second season. You know what? Of the podcast. You don't even need to listen.
Starting point is 01:32:15 If a lot of people download it on all of their devices, this could really, you know, we could get made into a movie. Download the episodes anytime. I guess if somebody would do that, I suppose, if you hired a sort of a, you know, a troll farm to, I don't know, download all of this and then also put negative reviews on every other podcast, I suppose that would be cool. That would be cool.
Starting point is 01:32:42 And people could tweet at the ABC as well, I guess, and be like, this is good and more of this place, I'd imagine. I'll kill you if you don't produce another season. That's the wording. Get that wording down. That's what we want to hear. Terrific stuff. All right, do you guys want to stand around,
Starting point is 01:32:55 stay around for the next segment of What Are We Reading? Yes, I do. Terrific. I will play the theme song. We've got a segment. It's called What Are We Reading? What Are We Going to Read? Oh, yeah, nice.
Starting point is 01:33:03 Very vague. You don't have to be reading anything. It's essentially this, what In, What We Gonna Read. Oh, yeah, nice. Very vague. You don't have to be reading anything. It's essentially this, what we just did. But a different thing. Yeah. Something that might never be adapted into a TV series. Can I sing the along with the song? You won't be able to hear it, but you definitely can.
Starting point is 01:33:16 Do you want to put the headphones on? You should. You should. I'm getting it ready. I'm lining it up. It's exciting. I'm doing it ready. I'm lining it up. It's exciting. I'm doing the thing. Westworld.
Starting point is 01:33:32 He's done it. He's done it. It's a dream for me as a fan of the show. Thank you very much. So, yeah, anybody, what have we got? What are we doing? I mean, if it wasn't enough that you've watched one to three episodes of The Watch. Absolutely consuming it all.
Starting point is 01:33:49 It is so, it's just so hard with, I don't know if you know this, but with children it's very difficult to consume media. It is literally my job and it is fucking impossible. Yeah. So I don't know how anybody. So you gave up. I gave up months ago. I didn't see Endgame.
Starting point is 01:34:01 You were right. You just got the Wikipedia page open. But like, yeah, you just can't. And I don't know how anybody who doesn't have this job watches anything, quite frankly. It doesn't make any sense. Yeah, it's crazy. What I have been reading recently is I bought again a copy
Starting point is 01:34:18 of Sean McAuliffe's Smithereens. Oh, yes. Which is a book of short essays and comic writings by Australian comedian Sean McAuliffe. He's incredible, man. He's very good. What a prolific. Very, very good.
Starting point is 01:34:31 He also appears on the Pop Test. And I'll kill him if they don't produce a second season of the Pop Test. It takes an incredible commitment and ability to remain at the top of your game for a long time. Yeah, he's been around. Yeah, because I first remember from full frontal when I was in primary school. To maintain it, to stay at the top of your game
Starting point is 01:34:51 and also not to have outside interference take you off the top of your game and being like, could you make it different in a way that we like but isn't as funny? Please do that. He's had to do that for 20 years. He's had to be like, no, I'd rather do it. I guess it's strength. I'm calling it.
Starting point is 01:35:09 It's strength. Inner strength. It's genuinely like you have to actually be just willing to go, no. No, and he really is. I've definitely seen it, but it's definitely like, no, you can't change this. And they're like, all right. It's like, oh, you go, alright yeah that's like genuinely like it's like
Starting point is 01:35:26 oh you go oh that's what you gotta do whereas I would imagine myself in a cis scenario I'd go you think it would be better like that
Starting point is 01:35:33 you think it would be better if it was less funny and I'd just be a little bit like is that what you think yeah I'd take a stab at him but then I'd let them ruin my work
Starting point is 01:35:43 but I think it might be because he I was thinking it might be because he has serious business hair. Whereas you two have ridiculous hair. Ridiculous party hair. Yeah, you're right. Your hair is pretty business. Yeah, and so do you think that you wouldn't compromise?
Starting point is 01:36:00 No. Wait, you agreed with me, though. I think my hairstyle is actually called the pushover. A nice man though also, right? Because you guys have obviously worked with him. A lovely gentleman. Yes, we did work with him. We're very fortunate too.
Starting point is 01:36:14 But yeah, I genuinely love his work. So I re-bought this book that I'd had a long time ago and then lost my copy of and I'm re-reading it and I'm lying in bed stifling laughter and annoying my wife. His wife doesn't allow laughter in the house. No, she says it's adorable when I try not to laugh. But it's, you know, you don't get a lot of books where you genuinely laugh out loud.
Starting point is 01:36:38 Yeah, absolutely. It's real good stuff. And it's nice that he's nice. It's nice to hear that. You know what I mean? It's very nice. Because everybody's just the worst. A lot of people are bad. A lot of people are bad.
Starting point is 01:36:46 A lot of people are bad. And a lot of people who become successful, you go, oh, that's how you get successful. You just be the worst person. Yeah, you be the worst person. You just step on everybody on the way up and then on the way down. I don't understand. Why do people want to work with someone like that? They go, yeah, he was really bad to us.
Starting point is 01:37:01 We should get a second season with this guy. We should get that up. I bought, this is unrelated a lot to what we were saying, but the King Kong video game from 2005 based off the Peter Jackson movie because we might cover it for a video. Yeah. There's two modes of play. I don't know if you guys are video gamers.
Starting point is 01:37:22 Sure. But one is where you're on the island and you're a man and you're trying to survive and you've got like a stick and you've got like a gun with four bullets or whatever or you're just King Kong like smashing dinosaurs. Wow. So it just cuts between those two things and that's the game apparently. That's fun.
Starting point is 01:37:37 That sounds awesome actually. Apparently it was pretty inventive for the time, yeah. It sounds like an experience of manic depression. Like a manic depression simulator. There are two creatures within you, a depressed man with a stick and King Kong. Which one grows strongest? The one you feed, King Kong.
Starting point is 01:37:57 He is definitely the strongest. Yeah. Have we discussed the fact that it definitely wasn't beauty that killed the beast? It was the plane. It was the plane and Beauty that killed the Beast? It was the planes. It was the planes and the fall. It was like gravity, I guess. That movie, King Kong, had one of the scariest things in it.
Starting point is 01:38:15 I don't know why I found... Jack Black. Was it the leech things? It was the giant bugs. I think it's like bugs are the only thing, the only redeeming feature they have is that they're small. Yeah. Because they seem like they don't have any personality or soul
Starting point is 01:38:33 and they don't care about you in any way. And they're not scared enough. All themselves. Yeah. And so it just feels like. They're relentless. Once they're huge, it's like living robots that you want to kill. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:44 Why do you touch them if you're trying to kill them? You know what I mean? They're covered in armor and slime. I'd kill you, but I don't want to touch you. On your way. That's the worst thing you ever said to me. Yeah, gross. Is there something about they can't get to a certain size, though,
Starting point is 01:38:59 because of something to do with the way they're built? I think it's to do with the way that they get oxygen. So they don't have lungs. I was going to say that, but then I was like, that's dumb. You don't know what you're saying, Jokes. No, no, no. They absorb oxygen through little holes in their skin, and that's actually why you can kill them with spray
Starting point is 01:39:13 because it actually just blocks up the holes, I think, and they just suffocate. So you could spray them with anything? Not oxygen. Pure oxygen. That makes them strong. Okay. But, yeah, you get to a certain size,
Starting point is 01:39:26 your surface area to volume ratio goes down, you can't absorb enough oxygen to survive. That's why during the time of the dinosaurs there were much bigger bugs. You see those huge dragonflies and stuff. There was a higher oxygen content in the atmosphere. Cool. And this is the kind of stuff you'll get on the pop test.
Starting point is 01:39:43 Is it? Well, it is just us explaining scientific things that we've done a bunch of research for. Because you were just like, pow, pow, pow, pow, pow. Yeah. I'm sort of the dumber guy on the show. But I'm reading off a script, so I kind of can still sound smart. Oh, that's good. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:39:58 Stuff that I've watched that I've enjoyed that I was surprised that I enjoyed. I checked out, I mean, this is from quite a few months ago, but when Middle Ditch and Schwartz came out on Netflix. Oh, yeah, the improv. The improv thing, because I was like, I'd never really seen improv get filmed. I know that there was Ass Cat and things like that from UCB, but I had never seen those.
Starting point is 01:40:19 But I'd always had the thought in my mind, I'd go, surely this could work sometimes. Like when you see good improv, you go, surely surely this can work and this was genuinely just really fun and they you know like we like if you i mean those guys are amazing yeah those guys are amazing i mean if you know improv you know that like that there are tricks and what they're doing that's like you know that that does just induce laughter and it makes it kind of easier as an improv guy. But I just thought it was genuinely really fun and you go, oh, I actually wish there
Starting point is 01:40:50 was more of these and they'd be super cheap to make. Oh yeah, absolutely. And they could, you know, and so they could... They'd pay for themselves. Yeah, exactly. So yeah, I thought that was just easy fun. I also watched the series recently, Truthseekers on Amazon Prime.
Starting point is 01:41:05 You've seen this? Oh, Nick Frost. Nick Frost, Simon Pegg. I actually really, really liked it. Huh. Yeah. Not too scary for me, so that was good. Okay, great.
Starting point is 01:41:15 It's unusual. But, yeah, I hadn't heard anything about it. I had absolutely no expectations. You just saw the thing and you went, cool. And I liked its vibe a lot. I laughed. I liked Nick Frost a great deal. It was good. Last thing that I've got.
Starting point is 01:41:32 My son had watched through it and then we were getting little bits and pieces of it and then we were like, oh shit, this actually seems quite good. Have any of you guys seen Steven Universe? No. I know Andrew Levens loves Steven Universe. Yeah, Steven Universe is really good. It's just like there's so much to it and there's so many.
Starting point is 01:41:49 I mean, they're all little short episodes. But, yeah, we're watching through it and we've seen the movie a bunch of times because I just want to watch it a bunch. But, yeah, Steven Universe is really good. I love how kid stuff is good. Yeah. There's a lot of stuff that's like. Imagine raising kids in an era where kid stuff was bad.
Starting point is 01:42:06 Your dad's uncle gives you a weird tape or something. This is the best show I've ever seen. It's all episodes of Scooby-Doo where they're like, where's the clue? And it's like it's under the one rock that's a different colour than all the other rocks because that's the only thing that's going to move in the scene. Oh, the ghost was a hologram, was it?
Starting point is 01:42:22 Okay. Good for that scene. Yep, all right. Oh, Carnival Liner. Yep, all right. Oh, Carnival Liner. Yep, all right. Great. Yeah, things were not as good. Let's not lie to ourselves.
Starting point is 01:42:30 A lot of kids' content is still bad. Oh, yeah. My son watches Beyblades, and it's just people screaming at each other and spinning tops. It's just crazy. Beyblades? Beyblades. Beyblades. We actually have some Beyblades at home, and actually that's much more fun.
Starting point is 01:42:45 It definitely is. Just doing it. It'ses. We actually have some Beyblades at home, and actually that's much more fun. It definitely is. Just doing it. It's literally just spinning tops crashing into each other. Yeah. I'm really good at it. Because I'm stronger. Exactly. You get more of a rip to it.
Starting point is 01:42:53 Yours gets more than you can just watch theirs smash to pieces. It's really satisfying. Yeah, so I've been doing some Beyblades, yeah. I wish you battled you and me sometime. See who the real strong man is. Is there a web series in this? There might just be. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:11 But no, there is also, I'm trying to think of some other, yeah, he does watch other kids' shows and I'm like, this is actually all right. Like Voltron is incredible. I don't know if you've seen Voltron. It like totally works on every level, yeah. That's great. Anyway.
Starting point is 01:43:22 That's a classic show? No, they redid it on Netflix. And the new one's good? The new one's really good. It's by the people who did The Last Airbender, the avatar, which I also recently watched, which is incredible. But, yeah. Yeah, I've heard good things about Airbender that I would like to get into
Starting point is 01:43:35 and maybe Voltron one day. The dream. If you play cards right, maybe you can watch Voltron. Here's another recommendation for a kid's thing. There's a book called The Little Yellow Digger. It's really, really good. You won't be able to find it anywhere because I found it in an op shop. It's from New Zealand but somebody made the observation
Starting point is 01:43:58 that the word bigger and digger rhyme and they turned it into a really, really good book. Maybe this is going to go to print again. I'm going to buy this. I found it. I'm going to buy it. It's the perfect children's book for little kids. What's it called again?
Starting point is 01:44:13 The Little Yellow Digger. The Little Yellow Digger. I don't think I'm going to be able to read this. I think there might be some sequel books to this as well. He does all sorts of adventures. Oh, yeah. It's like 15 results for like, well maybe it's only four or five.
Starting point is 01:44:27 Is this it? This isn't it? Oh no, that is it. Yeah, sorry. I apologize. Yeah, just you said he and I thought well then that's... Well now there's going to be a run on the Little Yellow Digger franchise. Yeah, not going to be able to get it. Not going to be able to get it. They will make a movie about it.
Starting point is 01:44:42 I'll hate it. Jason Statham will be the Little Yellow Digger. Oh, Little Yellow Digger. able to get it, they will make a movie about it. I'll hate it. Jason Statham will be the little yellow digger. I'm the littlest digger. You think you're littleer than me? Now I'm a bigger digger. You read Harry
Starting point is 01:44:58 McCleary? Oh yeah, many times. I'm down at Donaldson's dairy. It's just an observation that I hadn't realized, right? Donaldson's Dairy. You think that that's a – you probably – you lot, you probably think that's a place where you milk cows. Go on.
Starting point is 01:45:17 But in – Where is this going? In New Zealand, a dairy is what they call a corner shop. And so Donaldson's Dairy, I think – Is that a New Zealand book? dairy is what they call a corner shop. Is that a New Zealand book? I didn't know that. Yeah, I think Julia Donaldson is a Kiwi woman. That's not Julia Donaldson.
Starting point is 01:45:33 No, not Julia Donaldson. Lindley Dodd. Lindley Dodd, yeah, sorry. Lindley Dodd. Very good. Well, now I'm going to have to go and rethink a whole lot of things. Yeah, because now you're going to look at these through a very different lens. It makes a lot of sense because there are zero, yeah. Wait a minute, this is actually a corner shop of some kind.
Starting point is 01:45:49 James Statham. Don't always say that. James Statham. That's the voice of Harry McLaren. And the body of Harry McLaren. I mean could they get an actor with more hair they just made a rod for their own face
Starting point is 01:46:09 I mean yeah was that cat something Maclaw Scarface Claw you know I mean you could get a big actor like actually a big actor like The Rock Scarface Claw yeah anyway I'm just saying it could be an action movie.
Starting point is 01:46:26 I agree. A very glary action movie. Definitely could. My boys are very scared of Scarface Claw. We raised them scared in my family. How old are your kids? Four. Okay.
Starting point is 01:46:38 And every time you close the book, you're like, and remember, boys, he is real and he will find you. That's a real animal. Stay alert. It's a very real animal. We have one in our house. Anyway, good night. We don't know what Rubik's in.
Starting point is 01:46:50 Why do you keep having nightmares? What's with you? Get over it. All right. Anyway, again, guys, thank you so much for swinging on by. Thank you so much. Best of luck on all your endeavours. And, of course, there's also Two in the Think Tank,
Starting point is 01:47:03 which is a podcast that you do also. A regular podcast. Which is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. What are you up to in terms of episode numbers? Episode 272. Oh, my God. Yeah, it's getting close. We're almost at episode 300,
Starting point is 01:47:15 which is where we have to come up with 300 sketch ideas. Are you going to do it? You don't have to, though. Yeah, we don't have to. You don't have to. No, there's an inevitability to it. There isn't. There isn't. Much like death itself, it will come for us.
Starting point is 01:47:30 And I feel there's no point. It feels like it's the only important thing we do. Sure. It's just like to have a challenge that is going to hurt our minds, maybe our bodies. I feel like the last one you were more prepared going into it though. A little bit. A bit more efficient.
Starting point is 01:47:47 We had a few more veggie sausages to eat cold. Mashed potato. I can't remember if we had mashed potato. Oh, man. We had a couple of blocks of cheese so that we could carve them into some wine goblets. That's right. That's right.
Starting point is 01:47:58 James, you came in right at the end with bananas and beer. I did. And that was absolutely what got us over the line. You're very welcome. Thank you. It was a joy to watch. i'm so glad i could be there oh yeah well that is and james james and so you were also there i was also there in the struggle bit where i couldn't come up with a sketch idea based on the words that i said upside down helicopter or inverse helicopter and andy went to the bathroom and I realized,
Starting point is 01:48:26 oh, there is no partnership. It's just Andy and I'm there watching him. And I went, reverse helicopter, maybe something that digs in the ground. But we had to get to 200
Starting point is 01:48:41 ideas so we wrote it down. Well, thank you for being there and witnessing that with me. You're very welcome. I appreciate it. So, Andy, I hope you're looking forward to coming up with 300. Okay. Anyway, yeah, thanks again, guys. Appreciate it.
Starting point is 01:48:55 See you next time. Toodles. Bye. Thanks a lot. Bye, guys. Bye. James, it's time for letters. The boys have gone.
Starting point is 01:49:02 They're gone. They fell into a black hole or something. Oh, no. I hope they're all right. Some magic, the watch. You know, we talked about that. Yeah, we did talk about that. Probably fell into a magic black hole.
Starting point is 01:49:09 Do you think they're okay? No, I think they're dead. Oh, well. Anyway, here's letters. The classic one was letters, oh, letters. We love you, some letters. They're only a take away. I know they're here right now.
Starting point is 01:49:22 We're going to do letters. Hello, hello, and welcome to the letter segment of the show. If you do want to send a letter to the show, hashtag WeeklyPlanetPod on Twitter. You can also shoot through a voicemail to weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com if you keep it brief, 30 seconds, or just send through a regular email. Regular letter, yeah. We're experimenting with some audio stuff.
Starting point is 01:49:40 What do you want to do first? Do you want to do a tweet first? I'll do, yeah, do a tweet first. Okay, cool. Got this from Sean who says, hi from Ireland. Just wondering, are you concerned about the lack of a main villain for Spider-Man 3? Rumours are all over the place
Starting point is 01:49:51 for confirmed Doc Ock, Goblin, Electro, to rumours such as Kraven the Scorpion, Spider Slayer, so it's hard to pinpoint who is the main. Ah. What do you think about that? I think there will ultimately be a mastermind behind whatever is going on. A multiverse monster man?
Starting point is 01:50:06 Multiverse monster man, yeah. That's right. Could be a Scarlet Witch. I don't think it will be. I don't think it is. Maybe a Nightmare or a Dormammu, one of those. Or a Mephisto. Or a Mephisto, yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:17 That's true. He's doing some Spider-Man stuff, isn't he? Yeah. Or it could be Larry. Could be Larry the Cable Guy. Yeah. Wait, did we talk about Larry on the WandaVision video? Was it Larry? It was Larry. Larry the Aerospace Guy. Yeah. Wait, did we talk about Larry on the WandaVision video? Was it Larry?
Starting point is 01:50:26 It was Larry. Larry the Aerospace Engineer. Oh, yeah. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I'm saying it's Larry. Okay, it's Larry. Good, I'm happy with that. For more context, you're going to have to watch that video.
Starting point is 01:50:35 Everybody's talking about how epic it's going to be, aren't they? Like Tom Holland is like, it's the biggest movie I've ever seen. I've been in some pretty big blockbusters in my day, in my 22 years. I was in The Mind Snake. Is that out yet? I had a mind snake coming out of me head. I like what he's doing. Sorry, me bonce.
Starting point is 01:50:58 He had a mind snake coming out of his bonce. That's right, yeah. Are you worried about Villain Overload though? No, I don't think. Some of them will be like a few seconds I'd imagine. Yeah, I mean, you know, they might surprise us but I would be. My feeling is that there won't be just an enormous team-up a la Endgame of everybody who's ever been in one action sequence.
Starting point is 01:51:18 I think it might be a case of tumbling through reality and we get the Raimi villains all in one scene briefly and then through. And then maybe there's like the, because it's pretty sure that Alfred Moline is in it, maybe there's like with J.K. Simmons, there's like a version of him in the MCU. Yeah, for sure. And, you know, maybe a couple of them we get, you know,
Starting point is 01:51:39 the best and they kiss. And then a couple of, you know, we get a couple of drips and drabs of all of them at the end and we get a few. But my feeling will be that there'll be one guy behind it all and then Tom Holland's Spider-Man will punch him. Or shoot him. Yeah, with a gun.
Starting point is 01:51:53 With a gun. With a regular gun. Nice. Good stuff. Do you want to do another tweet before we do the Gmails? You should, yes. Good, good. It's from JJ Scripts says, hashtag weeklyplanetpod,
Starting point is 01:52:04 with the announcement of the Fantastic Four life story, which I did not know. This is what I found out about it. This is the Fantastic Four comic series in the style of Spider-Man life story in which their lives will, they will age as normal throughout the 60s through the modern era. Yes, they've done it with Spider-Man. They've done it with Captain America.
Starting point is 01:52:20 They did it with probably someone else. Us, our lives. Us, oh my goodness. Who would you enjoy seeing getting that treatment now that it seems to be more of a one-time thing? Perhaps a Nick Fury run where each issue has the iconic stories told as parodies of spy movies in that era. Oh, interesting, yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:35 That would be a good character because he starts as like initially as a World War II hero. Yeah. And then he's kind of, they don't, he stays about the same age but he does involve himself with conflicts over the decades. Yeah, I would like to see Punisher life story. Yeah, right. Maybe that's, maybe the series itself is too poignant for the Punisher maybe.
Starting point is 01:52:54 No, I think that's the perfect place for that. He's a character, I mean, I guess the issue being that he kind of exists in a weird limbo in which his origin is still Vietnam. Yes. And so he has sort of aged normally in the Marvel Universe. It's come and gone whether he's aged normally or not. So now he should be in his 60s or 70s, something like that. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:18 I think he lied about his age to get into Vietnam. Okay, when he was four. Yeah, when he was four. Just a brick of a baby. Yeah. So, yeah, I don't know. I don't know, maybe. I like that idea, though.
Starting point is 01:53:29 Yeah, what about. What about a Wolverine where he, where everyone's getting older. We've seen Iron Man, haven't we, in like, because doesn't Captain America go to Vietnam to fight for the Vietnamese and Iron Man is fighting for. I think he might be thinking of the Spider-Man. That Spider-Man 10 years one. Okay, right, right, right. That might be a different thing.
Starting point is 01:53:48 What about? Have they done Daredevil? No. No. He's got some iconic story. He's got enough good storylines where he could do one every 10 years, doesn't he? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:57 That's good, though, that they are doing Fantastic Four, so I will give that a read. Should we do some audio things or regular Gmail? Let's do some audio things. I'll forward you some regular audio. I've got them ready to go. So one has been screened by me already. That's right.
Starting point is 01:54:11 And one is going to be a surprise. And I think it's going to be a very good surprise. You'll need your headphones for this, Mason. Oh, yeah. We're going to make this happen. You've got to jack in. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:24 Oh, no, he's trying to connect, but there's a big skull and crossbones on the screen. No, my headphones are just tangled up. Okay. This is just like the movie Hackers. Yeah, it is. You should get some cordless headphones. Then again, if you did, we couldn't connect you to this. You'd have to get a wireless desk.
Starting point is 01:54:45 Oh, I don't want that, Mason. I don't want to do any of that. Can you get wireless big? Yeah. Oh, yeah. For studio work? Yeah. I've got any wireless can connect to my phone, I think,
Starting point is 01:54:54 can connect to this Rode system that we have. Wow. Venom laptops can do anything. Though I am due for a new one. Did you know that? Yeah. Ba-dim, ba-dim, ba-dim, ba-dim, ba-dim, ba-dim. We're in.
Starting point is 01:55:05 Okay, here we go. Okay. From Grant. If people might remember, last week Grant wrote a review where he had to lie to Brian Michael Bendis in order to pretend he knew who he was and he used information we had told him. So this is a follow-up to that.
Starting point is 01:55:20 A little white lie. There we go. Is that a good summary? Yeah, but we didn't know why. We didn't know what the lie was. But now we're going to find out. Here we go. Hey, James and Maceo, this is Grant from Oregon, following
Starting point is 01:55:30 up from last week on Lion Michael Bendis. I was hired at a comic book shop for my Magic the Gathering knowledge more than my extremely minimal comics knowledge. One day my boss looked at me and whispered, Do you see that bald guy? I panicked and assumed he was a shoplifter that I hadn't noticed,
Starting point is 01:55:47 but then my boss said, That's Brian Michael Bendis. Clearly expecting me to be impressed. I knew nothing about him except from hearing his name on your show, so I said, No way! Secret war! And that was apparently enough to convince him I had enough comic book cred not to fire me. So thanks again for all the vague knowledge you provide. and that was apparently enough to convince him I had enough comic book cred not to fire me.
Starting point is 01:56:08 So thanks again for all of the vague knowledge you provide. Happy to do it. That's all you need. That's all you need is you just need... We're good at providing enough surface-level knowledge. I'm looking at pictures of Brian Michael Bendis, and I don't think I know his face well enough where I could go, that's definitely Brian Michael Bendis. He just looks like a Michael Chiklis kind of looking dude.
Starting point is 01:56:25 I reckon I might be like Mark Waid. Yeah, exactly. Interesting. Thank you. That was very informative. And I like how in a store like that it's like there's specific knowledges that you're kind of hired for. But also they expect you to know everything,
Starting point is 01:56:40 which is also unfair I feel. Exactly. Especially considering in most comic book stores you just have to stand behind the counter and not react to anything. That's right. And not have any enthusiasm for anything. I mean, I can understand that as well because people are just coming to pick a fight about different comic runs. I also like to think that Brian Michael Bendis, like why he was there,
Starting point is 01:56:58 I like to think that he was just sort of at a booth like signing and there was an enormous sign over his head that said Brian Michael Bendis, Secret Wars. that said Brian Michael Bendis Secret Wars. You know from Secret Wars. Secret Wars. Do you think it's okay to go in if you're a book writer or a comic creator? Like Eleven's who signs his book. Do you think it's okay to go in and sign all your books?
Starting point is 01:57:16 Without asking? Yeah. Yeah, because what you want. It's fine, right? You want to start a fight with whoever's working. I mean, they'd have to know who you are, right? Yes. You couldn't just do it.
Starting point is 01:57:25 You'd have to sign your own books. Yeah, yes. That's what I'm saying. I think it's probably okay, yes. Okay, cool. Yeah, cool. All right, here we go. Unless they were like, we hear that if you,
Starting point is 01:57:35 this will actually be a detriment to the value of the book. We're going to have to lower the price if you sign this. Okay, this is from Matt. This is an unscreened call. And if you'd like to read the subject line. Oh, I didn't read the subject line. It is. Let me know if you guys want a high quality version.
Starting point is 01:57:49 No, the subject line. Oh, Weekly Planet jazzy theme song. I apologize. Here we go. What's it going to sound like? Big bubble movie news. Shooting off your butthole. That's nice. The weekly planet, the weekly planet. It's a bit Jack Johnson.
Starting point is 01:58:16 I was going to say it's got a Jack Johnson, Xavier Rudd kind of vibe. That's exactly right. A Pete Murray, if you will. A Pete Murray, very much a Pete Murray. It's like we were by the fireside. Loved it. He's like, he's there, he's trying to impress some girls and he's like, hey, you want to hear the theme tune to a podcast that I like? Oh, whose guitar is this?
Starting point is 01:58:31 What, you want me to play? Don't mind if I, I mean, it's a bit embarrassing. I guess I'll just try to, oh, yeah, I'll just tune it up a little bit, but that's sounding pretty good. Let's just, haven't done this in a while, but. A bit rusty. Yeah, that's right. Don't bloody blame me.
Starting point is 01:58:46 It's all right. Yeah. Cool. That was great. I loved it. Me too. Unscreened, you get pleasant surprises. We haven't had any unpleasant surprises yet.
Starting point is 01:58:54 Well, because we've only done two. Yeah, but they're coming. Oh, they really are. Hello, dog. Yeah. Here we go. Okay. I'm just looking at a bunch of reactions to WandaVision, which we're getting sent also.
Starting point is 01:59:04 Well, I'm going to, while you do this. People are loving it. I'm going to read out some emails. Please do, yeah. Okay, here'm just looking at a bunch of reactions to WandaVision, which we're getting sent also. Well, I'm going to, while you do this, I'm going to read out some emails. Please do, yeah. Okay, here's a few. This one is from Tucker. Great name. Hello. James, help me expose a weekly wackadoo in Alaska. Got him.
Starting point is 01:59:16 Hey there, James and Mesa. I've been listening to your podcast for nearly six years and it's been a great source of entertainment for me during various everyday routines. At my last job, I worked at a distributorship that had offices in several states in the northwest of the US, including Alaska. I worked in the Seattle office, and one day I was instant messaging one of the workers in the Alaska office who I'd never actually met in person.
Starting point is 01:59:34 We're just joking around when all of a sudden my coworker casually dropped the phrase, well, as a father. Oh my goodness. Sure, this is a common enough expression, but it was so specific that it gave me pause, and I truly felt it was too much of a coincidence. I hesitated for just a moment, decided to go out on a limb and say, wait a minute, as a father, are you a fellow weekly whacker to do? Oh, my God, that's a big swing.
Starting point is 01:59:53 That's a big swing. Like, do this in the weekly planet, which sounds less insane. Yeah, to which he promptly responded, oh, my God, yes, I love the weekly planet. So there you go. Love it. I just thought you guys might like to hear how you guys have listeners all over the world that James' famous saying could actually serve
Starting point is 02:00:08 as a password for discreetly discovering fellow weekly wackadoos out in the wilderness. Or really obnoxious dads. That's exactly right. That's what it's for. Thanks very much, Tucker. Thank you, Tucker. Can I be the official Tucker of the podcast?
Starting point is 02:00:18 Yes. Absolutely you can. That's terrific. It's exciting. It's a real friend of Dorothy kind of. What does that mean? What's that expression? Explain it to me.
Starting point is 02:00:27 I'll explain it off air. Yeah, that's fun. I like it a lot. Me too. Excellent. And this is a last email from Sam Robson. Yep. What do you wish you knew at 21?
Starting point is 02:00:38 Hey there, you silly sausages. I'm turning 21 on February the 9th and was wondering what you two wish you knew earlier. Are there any books you'd wish you'd read before crossing the line into adulthood? Can I be the official jalapeno man of the pod? Don't know what that means, but yes. Yeah, definitely can. Must like them.
Starting point is 02:00:53 They're good, aren't they? For me, it's with limitations. You can do anything, really. I don't mean you can do anything, obviously, but there are no real – everything's rules are arbitrary sure there's actually quite a bit of flexibility and things yeah there's no one way to do anything you do i think my my number one thing would be you don't have to have everything figured out by 21 or or ever ever really yeah i mean we're 21 to 25 that's right potentially a different we still
Starting point is 02:01:21 have everything figured out that's absolutely right so, I guess also that there's no like peak point of happiness. Disagree, I'm at 100% happiness all the time. Well, I got some very rude emails that I've been hiding from you, so if you want me to bring you down a bit. No, if anything, it'll bring me to 110% happiness. No, but like it's peaks and troughs, you know what I mean? And it could be daily or it can be over a period of time and whatever. So, yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:48 But I like that about, you know, you don't figure it out, really. And also if you do figure it out, then things change. And if you do figure it out, email us and let us know. Tell us what it is. Because we'd like to know. We're desperate to know. We'd love to know. Yeah. Also, most people don't know what they're doing. You know how you think that adults have it figured out when you're a kid? Yeah, that's
Starting point is 02:02:04 a good one actually, yeah. And it's kind of chaos. It's kind of fucking all over the shop, isn't it? Yeah. Which is a bit upsetting but also it's out of your hands. So what do you do? Yeah, what do you do? Riot.
Starting point is 02:02:17 Yeah, I guess you just start breaking windows. Yeah, yeah. Cool. Is that it? That's the whole show, everybody. Thanks, everybody, so much for listening and telling your friends and lying to your friends and enemies about listening to the show and subscribing and breaking windows in the name of the podcast,
Starting point is 02:02:35 maybe graffitiing our logo on like a municipal building or something. Yeah, but it's obviously they've approved it. You know what I mean? I mean, it's better. One thing I would tell people that you know, that are turning 21, it's easier to, you know, beg for forgiveness than ask for permission. So true. To spray our logo on a municipal building.
Starting point is 02:02:52 I would kind of love that actually. Don't go to jail for it. You don't do it. But I just say I would love it. No, that's too, don't do it. But also leave a nice review. Don't do that. Leave a nice review, James.
Starting point is 02:03:02 I do. I got one here from Pickle Nick who says, podcast completely dedicated to the latest. James, do you remember when you sent in a pickle, Rick? Do you remember that? Yeah. Don't do that. Leave a nice review, James. Go on then. I've got one here from Pickle Nick who says, podcast completely dedicated to the latest. James, do you remember when he was sending a pickle Rick? Do you remember that? Yeah. Oh, my God. Blimey.
Starting point is 02:03:11 Pickle Rick. Podcast completely dedicated to the latest Paul Hogan news. So funny. So a podcast completely dedicated to the latest Paul Hogan news. My grandfather recently passed away. Boo. And in his will, it states that I must give this podcast a five-star review to receive my inheritance.
Starting point is 02:03:25 I suspect your grandfather was a great listener of the show. I agree. That's right. Now I've done my part. All that is left is to wait to receive my sweet corn of cobblin glider. Did I mention that my grandfather was the wicked corn of cobblin? Well, he was. Spoiler, corn of cobblin.
Starting point is 02:03:39 And he returned in phase six. Wow. A lot of revelations. You could have something like that. Incredible true story. Or as Eddie has just written in, best show,, a lot of revelations. You could have something like that, an incredible true story, or as Eddie has just written in, Best Show, five stars, just started listening and now I can't stop, can't get enough.
Starting point is 02:03:54 Is it bad that my conscience now has an Australian accent? I also just want to mention, you know that delightful Paul Hogan movie or whatever? Something Mr Dundee or whatever it is. I watched it. What did you think? It's actually all right. Wow. I mean, look look go into it thinking
Starting point is 02:04:06 it's going to be the worst dad it was really like inoffensive and there's a bit of like i can't believe paul hogan's getting cancelled again and all that kind of there's a bunch of that shit you know what i mean okay but it's like completely inoffensive like boomer comedy like if you loved the gong show that he came to life in in the 70s in Australia, then this is like right up your alley. Wow. And he's also, he pokes fun at himself quite a bit. So, again, it's not great, but it was like, all right.
Starting point is 02:04:38 I am fascinated. Tell me off the air. He's got some celebrity cameos that you wouldn't expect as well. Wee Man? No. Okay. Great guess. That's got some celebrity cameos that you wouldn't expect as well. Wee Man? No. Great guess. That's what I thought. Tell me off air, I'd be fascinated to know the thought process that led you to a path of watching this
Starting point is 02:04:54 movie. I think it was I was away and I could only stream certain things from my phone to the Chromecast TV and I think one of them was Stan, the Stan app, and I just went whatever. Okay, wow. And again, you're going to watch it and you're going to be like,
Starting point is 02:05:09 why did you say that? Yes. This is one of your famous tricks to get me to watch the very fabulous Mr. Dundee or whatever it is. It's really not. Are you secretly being sponsored by the very fantabulous Mr. Dundee? I wish, Mason. I take the many dollars that he definitely has. There's a couple of good jokes, like genuinely.
Starting point is 02:05:26 Well, let's spoil them here. No, I am because you're never going to watch it. But one of them where they talk about they want to make a new Crocodile Dundee and they're like, what if we make, like in this third one he goes to Los Angeles and he's like, we made that movie. It's pretty good. And I'm like, yeah, because it was bad and nobody remembers it or whatever.
Starting point is 02:05:38 I'm like, yeah, that's pretty funny. It's pretty good. Just a bit of a ribbing. So that's the best joke. Okay, cool. So just work back from there. Great. Terrific. Again, it's totally, it is what it is. So that's the best joke. So just work back from there. Great. Terrific.
Starting point is 02:05:45 Again, it is what it is. Anyway, what's next? What are you doing? Oh, folks, thanks for those nice reviews. If you want to get in contact with us, if you want to leave an email or just get in contact with us in any other way or leave an audio message, put it directly in your email and send it to weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com. You can also go to weeklyplanetpod at Facebook and Twitter and Bandcamp.
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Starting point is 02:06:27 James, you're Mr. Sunday Movies everywhere. I certainly am. I certainly am. Why don't you also join up the Planet Broadcasting Great Mates Facebook group? They're talking about all sorts of stuff. They're having great conversations about pop culture and all kinds of things. There's big WandaVision spoiler threads you can get in there. You can submit your theories for WandaVision, all kinds of hot stuff, James.
Starting point is 02:06:45 That's right. We think you'd be like, well, this Facebook group, it's probably behind on all the hot stuff. Well, it's not. It's way ahead of the curve. What are you talking about? On all the hot stuff. Who said that?
Starting point is 02:06:52 Who's been saying that? Who's been saying that? I said it, but then I checked it. Okay, good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's up to date. It's way up to date. If you would like to support the show,
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Starting point is 02:07:18 That's right. And this week we're going, we've got a time crapshull episode where we pick a year in pop culture and then go through it. And it's our 1962 episode, which was the year that James Bond started, along with Spider-Man, along with breast implants, I think, we talked about also, which kicked off that year, putting just poison into people's bodies. What a year.
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Starting point is 02:07:50 If you're like us. If not, it's insane. Such a waste of money. Insane waste of money. You can buy an actual big sandwich for that. You can. And then we've got to record another movie commentary for the next week, which we haven't actually done yet.
Starting point is 02:08:01 So we've got to think of something. We don't have to think of it. We will think of something. Yeah. You know what I mean? Let's do it. Let's do it. All right.
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Starting point is 02:08:28 A jazzy. Oh, it was Jack Johnson. It was Jack Johnson. It was Jack Johnson. And Davey Rudd and Pete Murray. Pete Murray on bass there. Oh, who left his bass here? I'm a bit rusty on the bass normally.
Starting point is 02:08:37 I was at Rosenberg. Normally I play the 12-string guitar. Yeah, but I'll do what I can. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Make a little magic here tonight, he said. Oh, the John Butler trio has shown up. Look out. I think it what I can. Yeah. Yeah. Make a little magic here tonight, he said. Oh, the John Butler trio has shown up.
Starting point is 02:08:47 Look out. I think it's just John Butler now. Yeah, that's right. We want a 19-minute banjo solo, don't we? What happened to him? He's still around. Remember the joke we used to do, more like John has a Butler because he's rich? Yeah. But he's in the Australian music industry, so he's probably not rich.
Starting point is 02:09:00 Probably not rich anymore. Yeah, there we go. John Butler Network. They're never accurate. Yours says you're worth $10 million or something. Does it? He's worth $12 million. Wow.
Starting point is 02:09:13 That's probably accurate, though. Yeah, probably. No, I'm worth $900,000. Oh, that's right. That's what it was. Is that Australian or US? I'll check my bank account. Okay, cool.
Starting point is 02:09:24 Excuse me, Mr. Bank Manager. There should be a lot more money in this. I don't know. What are you? Are you stealing from me? I'm Mr. Sunday Movies. That's who I am. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:09:32 All right. We'll see you next week for... Different thing. Different thing. Yeah. Maybe another special guest next week. We'll try and work on that. We've got another one coming up for this exciting show that's starting.
Starting point is 02:09:42 All right. We'll see you guys next time. Grab that gem, you guys. We'll see you next week. Goodbye. I'm going to mute it this time. Nice. So we don't say anything rude.
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Starting point is 02:10:09 I mean, if you want. It's up to you. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret. The other, a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+.

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