The Weekly Planet - 393 Black Widow!

Episode Date: July 12, 2021

Visit bigsandwich.co for a bonus weekly show, exclusive movie commentaries, early stuff and ad-free podcast feeds for $9 per month.Black Widow is finally here, so it feels a very opportune moment to talk about it. Plus we talk the death of Richard Donner, a movie making legend, a sequel for The Tomorrow War, a new What If trailer, Marvel's new way of enticing actors, Hugh Jack returns as Wolverine question mark, Zack Snyder makes Zack Sndyer's Star Wars and Comic Con takes another hit. Thanks for listening!Red Guardian Video youtu.be/FincrA-kcxgPost Credits Explained youtu.be/xsfduFj1wQ000:00 The Start02:17 Richard Donner RIP04:14 The Tomorrow War Sequel07:08 Marvel's What If Trailer10:27 New Marvel Contracts13:52 Hugh Jackman Wolverine?17:18 New Zack Snyder Star Wars20:19 Comic Con at Home23:32 Black Widow Review (spoilers 36:17 - 56:21)56:21 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:08:50 Letters, It's Time For LettersJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrown Patreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymovies TWP iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 TWP Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanet TWP YouTube Channel ► https://goo.gl/1ZQFGH Amazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2QbmwGj T-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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The weekly planet. Got to change that theme song, Mason. Welcome back, everybody. I still love it. I don't listen to it, but I still love it. Do it. It's the one thing. It's the word. you know what I mean?

I can't even imagine how many listeners we've lost. Dozens. Then people are not interested in news. They don't want the news, they want facts. Oh, I see where you're going with this. You know what I mean? Yeah, I know what you mean, yeah. Because it's fake news, everyone.

Yeah, that's right. Everyone's talking about it all the time. Mason, welcome back to another episode of the Weekly Planet. Thank you. We've done it again. We have. I know we've only done like... 393? I was going to say one minute of the Weekly Planet. Thank you. We talk movies and comics. We've done it again. We have. I know we've only done like 393. I was going to say one minute of the show.

Oh. But I'm confident in saying we've done it again. We've done it again. Yeah. So this week, I'm James, also known as Mr. Sunday. With me as always is my co-host, Nick Mason. Hello, Fresh. We've got one week of Loki left, Mason.

You excited? Yeah. For the finale? We're going to have to record it at like one in the morning. That's correct. Because I've got to be at work until. Oh, no, really? Yeah, yeah.

Oh, I didn't know that. Oh, that's awful. I feel confident in saying that I did tell you. You probably did. Yes. But I forgot, Mason. That still means I didn't know it. You can have a little nap.

Have a little. Watch the show. Write your little notes. Have your little nap. And then I'll be right back. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. 1 a.m. It's you.

Then Collings, of course, does the edit. Wow. He comes over here and he's like, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, 1am. It's you. Then Collings, of course, does the edit. He comes over here and he's like, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. Get up. Give me the files. So this week we're going to talk about the death of a legend, Mason, a legend of cinema and TV also. News of Tomorrow War, the movie, a trailer for What If, how Marvel deals work these days, Hugh Jackman back as Wolverine?

Zack Snyder's doing another thing. Comic Con. And then we're going to get into Black Widow. There's time codes below if you do want to jump around a bit. I feel like I haven't put the news together in a way that kind of flows this week. We'll soon find out. We will, won't we? We'll do some of our famous segues and transitions.

People are going to love it. Okay, we'll find out. We will, won't we? We'll do some of our famous segues and transitions. That's true. People are going to love it. Okay, we'll do that. This will seem like one singular block. It'll seem like one news piece. It'll be so seamless. That's right. Wow. Richard Donner's dead.

Bit of a, you've really pumped the brakes there, haven't you, James? Well, you said it. I'm just saying. So he died at 91 years old. Yeah. Like most famously, people would know him for like Superman and a better version of Superman 2. Yeah, that's right.

Which we looked at recently. Also The Goonies. The Goonies he did. It's funny though because he worked on things from television, incredibly like popular properties, Man From U.N.C.L.E., Gilligan's Island, Perry Mason, Get Smart, The Wild Wild West. He also directed that episode of The Twilight Zone where the demon in the cloud or whatever,

the gremlin on the wing thing, which I know from The Simpsons. But he directed Shatner in that. You mentioned Goonies, Lethal Weapon, and we've been talking about it in the past couple of years that he was going to come back and direct the next Lethal Weapon, which would have been incredible. Because I think the last movie he directed was like 16 Blocks or whatever with Ethan Hawke.

Do you remember that? Yeah, very good. It was pretty good. He also did Maverick, if you remember the movie Maverick as well, which is a sequel to the show. Also, a bunch of people, obviously the tributes have flooded in, one of them being that of Kevin Feige who got his start through Richard Donner. Yeah, right.

Which is just incredible. So amazing legacy, apparently a very nice man by all accounts. Well, one of the things, one of the only nice things that comes out when like a big name passes away is that you get to hear all the stories you didn't know about them. So Jeff Cohen, who played Chunk in The Goonies, who's now an entertainment lawyer, Richard Donner paid for his college. Paid for his college tuition.

Did he really? Yeah. Because he had to write a letter to college, Jeff Cohen, he had to write a letter to this college to apply to it. And he went to Richard Donner and he said, what do you think about this? Do you think it's good? Could you give me a recommendation or something like that?

And Richard Donner and his wife had a think about it and they were like, you know what, not only that, we're going to pay for it. Wow. Yeah. Incredible. Good stuff, right? There you go.

Good on him. Yeah. So yeah, look, I mean what, not only that, we're going to pay for it. Wow. Yeah. Incredible. Good stuff, right? There you go. Good on him. Yeah. So yeah, look, I mean, one of these properties alone, but what a legacy. What an amazing legacy. Yeah. And speaking of legacies. Go on. Seamless.

Here we go. The Hollywood Reporter reporting that you loved the Tomorrow War. That's what they said. Wow. Said Mason. Speaking of fake news. Nick Mason loves the Tomorrow War. And then there's a paragraph explaining who I am?

Yes, that's right. Okay, great. There's an audio clip. There's just a photo of you also like getting your mail. It's like a paparazzi. I got papped. Oh, no. Wow.

Anyway. Just me opening up a bill, being like, oh, no. I'm in my robe. opening up a bill, being like, oh, no, I'm in my robe. So everybody involved in the first movie, director, cast, writers, producers are back for a sequel. Everyone's back. Everyone's back. Including the people who were killed.

Yes. Wow. So what do you think of that? Love it. Great. Tremendous. I liked it. I thought it was okay.

Well, that's probably more accurate. Yeah. But, yeah, so there you go. The Tomorrow War 2. The day after Tomorrow War? Yep. Is that fine? It's great, yeah.

Terrific. So I guess it did well. Hey, here's a little shout out to our friend Christopher who does Weekly Planet posters. My goodness. He's gone off script this week. What? Is he allowed to do that?

Well, he made a couple of original ones, and there's a Jason Momoa movie coming out soon. The trailer came out. Yeah. The trailer looks decent. It's called Sweet Girl, but he's preempted us. His algorithm has gone ahead, and he's correctly estimated what we would have called it,

which is called Jason Momoa Punches a Drug Company, His Daughter Punches It Too. So that's great stuff. It's not a great poster, though, is it, the original? No, it's bad. It's like, do you want to put any effort into this? Yeah, they look like they've been, like, the photo's been two separate photos have been taken.

Well, that's probably what it is. Yeah, definitely. Because the movie looks relatively high budget and they're both famous people. Also, it's called Sweet Girl. Yeah. But the trailer has Sweet Child O' Mine in it. And I think maybe they wanted to call it Sweet Child O' Mine.

But they couldn't? But they couldn't for whatever reason. Like maybe there's already an existing movie with that name or maybe Guns N' Roses said they could use the song but they couldn't use the title or something like that. So now it's just called Sweet Girl. They should have called it Chinese Democracy then. Ha ha!

Thank you. Did you ever hear that album? No. Oh, wait. Maybe like the first two or three tracks. Yeah, he was into it. Who was? You.

Oh, I was into it. Yeah, yeah. Put that in the Hollywood Reporter. You got papped listening to it. I've got the horns up. Yeah. I'm in a... You got a Discman.

Yeah, I've got a Discman in. Yep. Great. Remember Discmans? Yes. I was thinking about my Discman the other day. They did like $2,000 I paid like $220 for. Wow.

Crazy. It was a good one though. Where is it? Doesn't matter. In the pile of trash. Yeah, that's right. That is the world now. And my pile of laptops.

Yeah, that's probably where it is. Yeah. There's a new trailer this week for What If. Yeah. So when you're watching this, will you be like, this is all right, I'm into it. Well, let's go to the paparazzi photo of me watching the What If trailer. I'm loving it.

And the caption underneath says, hey, these are all connected probably. Yeah. Who knew? It's a one article. Yeah. Yeah, I love it. So what I found interesting is, this was confirmed afterwards, that Tony Stark, Steve Rogers, The Collector, Doctor Strange

and Captain Marvel are all being revoiced by other actors. Yes. So I'm kind of surprised by that, to be honest. Well, I was surprised by the revoicing because obviously some of the stars have come back. So Chadwick Boseman, his last performance was. Quite a lot of people have come back. So Chadwick Boseman's last performance was. Quite a lot of people have come back as well. Yeah, yeah, but some did not.

But what's interesting about I think this trailer is that they very specifically opened it with the opening sequence from Iron Man where Tony Stark is like, I'd be out of a job with peace. I'm Iron Man. And they were just like, let's open the trailer with a guy doing an exact impression of that or as close as they can get. And let's see how people feel about it, I guess.

Yeah, it was a weird choice. But I also think it's to get people ready for it. Yeah, maybe. Because I think if I went into this and I didn't know that, there would have been a bit of like, oh, okay. What they should have done is when they're on movie, when they're doing movies. When they're on movie. When they're on movie.

Which is a technical term for when they're filming a movie. They say, we're on movie. Richard Donner would have been like, okay, folks, we're on movie, when they're doing movies. When they're on movie. When they're on movie. Which is a technical term for when they're filming a movie. They say, we're on movie. Richard Donner would have been like, okay, folks, we're on movie. Everybody get ready, we're on movie. This is one article. Yeah, it's great. But that's when you get them, you know what I mean? Because once Downey's done, you're not getting him back to voice a cartoon.

That's true, yeah. You know what I mean? Not for a bunch of money. It's weird that like Doctor Strange and Captain Marvel were still in the universe. And not doing these, yeah. And you can do them over Zoom and whatever, but anyway, whatever. I mean, again, it's a big old Hollywood contract minefield, isn't it? I imagine, you know, as much as they enjoy

or do not enjoy doing these movies, maybe there's a thing in their contract that's like, and they're just like, well, I didn't sign on for it. So, I mean, they have to do it. You know, they have to sort of essentially live and breathe these characters for several years while they are contracted to them. So I would guess for a lot of people, any excuse to not do the character is probably a relief.

A relief, yeah. Yeah. It's interesting that you say contracts, Mason. Uh-oh. Because this next bit of news in this article. Still not talking about the? What? Well, the thing that surprised me, I think,

about the What If trailer was that they all seem, at least some of them seem to be connected. I was under the impression. Oh, I didn't know. I watched it once because I kind of want to be surprised. But, yeah, what do you mean by that? Well, I mean, it seems like some of the characters are going to be, or maybe all of them are going to be interacting

in some sort of multiversal team-up. Yeah. Oh, yeah, team-up. Yeah. Oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah. Good point. Because we got an evil Doctor Strange and he's having some words. With regular Doctor Strange? I can't remember.

Someone's talking to somebody. We should have watched it again probably. Was there a Doctor Strange Spider-Man? I don't know. There was a different Spider-Man. Again, I didn't really watch it properly because I want to be surprised. Do you think it's going week to week, right? They also gave a release date.

I think they said August 10th. Yes. I don't think we're probably going to do recaps like we do for Loki. Maybe we'll do like just audio. I don't know. We'll figure it out. They're quite soul-crushing for Collings. It needs a few months off, I think.

Well, let's do something that's only marginally soul-crushing. Exactly. Yeah. So, yeah, but speaking of deals, Mason, this is also via The Hollywood Reporter. Kevin Feige spoke about the huge multi-picture deals that Marvelites used to be sold into. Do you know what I mean? What do you mean Marvelites?

People in movies. Okay, people in movies. When they're on movie. When they're on movie, I can understand. But speaking of, actually, I just quickly wanted to say, I think now they'd work these what-ifs into the contract and maybe some of them they managed to because I don't know if you know this, but on the first Iron Man game, which came out to coincide with the movie,

they got Robert Downey Jr. Yeah, and he's sort of sleepwalking his way through the ordeal. Yeah, and they got Chris Hemsworth, so it's not uncommon. Also, he's using a different phone. He's using a different phone. Is that a flipped phone? It's a flipped phone. He's using a flipped phone in the trailer.

It's a what-if though, isn't it? That's true. What if I had a flip phone? He's using a different phone. Is that a flipped phone? It's a flipped phone. He's using a flipped phone in the trailer. It's a what if though, isn't it? That's true. What if I had a flipped phone? Maybe that's the difference here. I mean, also he's rescued by Killmonger. But what if Killmonger had a flipped phone? Right? That's interesting.

Isn't it though? They're going to team up to do arms wars and stuff, presumably. Arms wars. Arms wars. Yeah, arms wars probably, yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean? Anyway, so Kevin Feige said that got a lot of attention,

the multi-picture deals back in the day when I think Scarlett and Hemsworth and Evans and Sam Jackson, it varies now. Do you remember each of them signed on to like five, six, seven? Yeah. Sam Jackson's was nine at the time. Yeah. And now I think he's on none or week to week. I think they are week to week.

Yeah. Oh, he gets a call every week. Yeah. Yeah, not this week, Sam's on none or week to week. I think that I am week to week. Yeah. Oh, he gets a call every week. Yeah. Yeah, not this week, Sam. Sorry. No, thank you. Or you're welcome. So it says.

He signed up to a multi-year contract where sometimes they call him up and he has to work. He has to come in and do a scene. And why not? Yeah. He says it varies project to project, cast to cast. Really, what we want are people that come in, are excited to be in the universe, are excited

to the opportunity to do more things as opposed to being locked into contractual obligations, which I think is a good way to do it. It's like, how many do you want to do? What do you want to be in this as a future? It's like Weet-Bix. You ask people how many they want to do. And then you put extra ones in there. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You betray them. Look, if you're going to eat Weet-Bix. They're forced into eating too many Weet-Bix. If you're going to eat Weet-Bix or Vita-Britz, here's how you do it. You do it two at a time because I like them crunchy. Some people put them in the microwave. What's wrong with you? It's just a bowl of mush.

You know what I mean? Yeah. Warm milk and mush. Some people just put the dry box, the entire box in the microwave. Are you a dry Weet-Bix man? No. Some people do that? No. They'll put a in the microwave. Are you a dry wheat pick man? No. Some people do that? No.

They'll put a peanut butter on a wheat pick and eat it dry? Well, that's not dry, is it? Well, yeah, but it's, I mean. It's certainly viscous, isn't it? Of the condiments. It's certainly got more traction if you're putting peanut butter on it. But of the condiments, peanut butter is one of the drier ones, I would say. Yeah, I agree.

Sure. If I had to. But it's. It's. It's. It's dry-osity. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not as dry as a wheat pick. Very true. Yeah, I agree. Sure. If I had to. But it's dry-ocity. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not as dry as a wheat pick. Very true. Yeah, so what do you think of that?

They're just going, they're not doing, you have to do nine or else. I think that's good, yeah. Like Channing Tatum. Again, like we said. In a certain G.I. Joe movie. It's a huge investment and I suspect that a lot of people are not, you know, it's probably, you know, the impact, and also I think probably the impact of this sort of thing is probably more well-known now.

Yeah. So maybe it's a case of like of the ten stars that are still left who haven't done a Marvel movie, you say, hey, do you want to do a Marvel movie? And they think, well, no, because people are going to ask me questions about this character for the next, you know, every interview I have, they're going to be asking about this character. So do I want to lock myself into five movies?

Probably not. Yeah, fair enough. Speaking of being locked into movies, Hugh Jackman, he posted a picture of a Boss Logic-styled Wolverine poster and then next to that an image with him and Kevin Feige. What does it mean? But it's an old image, right? Yes.

Okay. But why would he do that? Is it a Doctor Strange cameo situation because you know multiverse yeah maybe yeah is it he's coming back for wolverine i'm kind of torn because i like him a lot as wolverine but also i kind of want them to redo the x-men clean slate yeah for sure so i kind of hope it's like a multiverse thing but i don't know what do you reckon yeah i reckon probably multiverseverse cameo. It seems like he's addicted to getting buff.

Maybe that's what it is, yeah. That's what's going on. Yeah. I mean, we all are. We all are in this room, aren't we? Yeah. Yeah, we all are. So they brought him back and they're like, he's Wolverine again and not Reed. We're all about healthy in this room. I didn't drink a violet crumble

honeycomb flavoured milk on the way over here. Oh, my God. Did it have the bits in it? No, it doesn't have bits in it. I don't know about that, man. I wouldn't drink it if it did have bits in it. I want the crunch of like a milkshake. Okay, well, you could pour it on your Weet-Bix.

Would I put it in the microwave? Yes. No, I wouldn't, Mason. You're not listening to me. I thought maybe with the addition of honeycomb you would put it in the microwave. Hot honeycomb milk. What are you, crazy? Yeah.

Get out of here. Yeah. I'm a pioneer is what I am. I guess you are. If someone wants to try that. Let us know. Let us know. We might just miss it though because sometimes we get said things and I miss it.

You might be like, I had 10 Weet-Bix in hot honeycomb milk. Can you please read this out in the podcast? We'd miss it. We'd miss it completely. Maybe don't do it. Yeah, don't do it. Yeah. So there you go.

I kind of would like to see cast someone younger. Yep. X-Men Origins, you know what I mean? Again. Well, yeah. I mean, you know, because what could very well happen is that you get Hugh Jackman for the first reappearance of the X-Men, maybe in an Avengers movie or something like that,

and then he's like, oh, boy, I blew out my knee and I cannot do any more of these. And then they've got to recast for the second thing anyway. I think it's probably a multiverse of madness thing. I hope so. I think he will probably do a cameo a la, you know, X-Men First Class or whatever, or he's a character in a bar or something like that.

But it's a multiversal bar. What? What? What? Like that poster when it's like it's Elvis and Marilyn Monroe and Frank Sinatra and John Lennon and they're playing pool or whatever. Yes. And the dogs are playing poker in the background.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Christopher Reeves there, he's polishing a glass behind the bar. But Wolverine, he's accidentally, he's cut the green, hasn't he, with his claws? Oh, no. Of the pool table and he's all like. And David Hasselhoff from Nick Fury is like, ooh. Ooh.

Ooh. Ha-ha, you scallywag. Great stuff all around. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm into it. Matt Salinger's there with his big Captain America helmet on. He would be, wouldn't he? Yeah.

Though, just quickly. Lou Ferrigno. Yeah, he'd do it. Yeah. Just regular Lou Ferrigno. He's wearing that weird coconut shell wig that he's still wearing in that original series. So I wouldn't mind seeing like, because old man Logan crosses over

with the young X-Men all the time. Yeah. So like if it's successful and he wanted to do it, he could come back and meet a different version of Wolverine. Oh, sure. Okay, yeah. It's totally fine. Anyway, whatever.

That's how we should end all news items. Anyway, whatever. No, we're not ending it. It's the one. It's still the one. Okay, all right. We'll do it at the very end. Oh, these segues are good, aren't they?

They really are. Speaking of good. Speaking of good. Yeah, I think so. The Hollywood Reporter, they say. My arch nemeses. They're always papping me. They say Zack Snyder's next It's those actiniders. Next project

for Netflix is Rebel Moon. We've talked about something about this recently. Do you know what this is in reference to? Is it the sequel and or prequel to the zombie thing? No, that's a different thing. We saw some images of that this week, didn't we? I'm interested to see how that turns out. This story is set in motion with a

peaceful colony on the edge of the galaxy. It's threatened by the armies of a tyrannical regime named the Bacillus. Okay. Desperate. Is that how they're going to say it in the movie? Well, they couldn't say empire. I'll tell you in a minute. Sorry.

Desperate people dispatch a young woman with a mysterious past to seek out warriors from neighboring planets to help them make a stand. He cites his influences as Star Wars and Akira Kurosawa. Do you remember how he was like, I was going to make like a Seven Samurai Star Wars movie and I might just make it anyway? This is it. This is it. Okay, cool.

So there you go. He said, it's my love of sci-fi and a giant adventure. My hope is this also becomes a massive IP in a universe that could be built out. I've spent the last two years. He's saying the quiet part out loud. There it is. Because then I'll make so much more money. Yeah.

I've spent the last two or three years building out the universe. Every corner has to be painted in. I've been doing designs, constantly drawing, and really cultivating its fertile ground to make this world fully realized. I think this is very interesting. I love a big Zack Snyder swing. I'm a big fan, so let's do it. And I guess people can't really be upset because it's not treading

on Star Wars like at all, and you can do laser swords, but instead of the Empire, it's the Basalarius. Oh, no. It's the Basalarius Force. How are you saying that? How is that spelled? It's Bali, S-A-R are you saying that? How is that spelled? It's Bali S-A-R-I-U-S.

Ah. I don't know. Okay. It's our leader, Grath Grader. So that's Darth Vader mixed with Mark McGrath. Sugar Ray. Yeah. It's Grath Grody.

There he is. He's killing on cameo apparently. Okay Grody. There he is. He's killing on caviar apparently. Okay, terrific. Check him out. Did you see this week also that Quentin Tarantino, he spoke out about Zack Snyder's Justice League. What did he say? He said it was groovy. Okay then.

He said, I haven't seen it, but it sounds groovy. Oh, he hasn't seen it. He hasn't seen it. He said, I didn't see the last one and I haven't seen this one, but it sounds groovy. That sounds groovy. And he said that the fans coming out and forced to demand a new version, that was groovy.

Yeah, it was groovy. It's been a big Quentin Tarantino week, hasn't it? Has it? Well, he's been selling that book. Oh, right, right, right. He's been in a lot of interviews and you know what he does. Yeah, yeah. He's excited.

He's excited about the movie, the one movie he has left to make. So there you go. Rude Star Trek. Rude Star Trek. What have we got here? Last bit of news. Last bit of this article. Deadliner reporting that Comic-Con at home.

Marvel and, you know, because it's moved to at home. Marvel and Warner Brothers will skip. I know. I've seen the paparazzi footage of my home. Pap, pap, pap, pap. Get out of here. I'm doing a Comic-Con. I just want to be left alone. They're going will skip. I know. I've seen the paparazzi footage of my home. Pap, pap, pap, pap. Get out of here. I'm doing a Comic-Con. I just want to be left alone.

They're going to skip this month's Comic-Con, which isn't surprising. Marvel. And DC, Warner Brothers, which isn't surprising. They didn't do the last one. Yeah, they're doing Fandome. Maybe the one before. Yeah, Marvel will do their own thing.

It's not a surprise. Marvel Fandome. That's right. Marvel's DC Fandome. Wow. Sony's apparently an unknown at this point. Okay. But they probably would have announced it by now, actually.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where's that Spider-Man trailer? God damn it. It's the sword of Damocles in my life. I feel like I never know when it's going to drop. It's going to ruin my week. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah.

So there you go. How do you feel about Comic-Con at home? That must be next week, right? Yeah. Is it? That's why we're fired up about it. Is it? We're going to get that Spider-Man trailer.

I suspect they're reticence to say anything. Sony's reticence means they're going to drop that Spider-Man trailer, I think, during Comic-Con at home. We'll all get to see it in the comfort of our own home. Wow, I love that. So it's not next week, it's the week after. It's on the 23rd until Oh. Till the 25th. Spider-Man trailer confirmed.

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I'm with the show, Mason. I'm with the show, yeah. Black Widow, Mason. Oh, yeah. Surprisingly high, but not really, opening weekend. They're estimating through Variety that it's going to be an 87.8 million US opening. Not bad. This beats Fantastic Nine.

Was it? That was 70 or something-ish? It was 70. Good work. Thank you. It's also the biggest since the pandemic, et cetera. I'm one of the budget boys or whatever. You are.

Box office boys. Box office boys. That's an upcoming thing in a video in two weeks. But it's also interesting because we went to Disney Plus for 30 US. Yes. So with a cinematic release, but people are still going out to see this. What do you think the story was? Oh, okay, hang on.

All right, so. Yeah. It's set. Yep. After Captain America Civil War. Correct. Black Widow's on the run. Yep.

All the other Captain America boys have been captured presumably. Some of them are also on the run. Oh, yes. Yeah. Yes. And then Black Widow's like, man, I've got to continue being on the run. But also I've got some stuff to deal with. God.

Family. Could my day get any busier? Yeah, it does. It does get quite a lot busier, actually. It gets much busier. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It gets to the point where everything is falling down. That's right.

It's really busy. Everything's exploding. Everything's falling through the sky. Everyone's screaming at each other. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. It's pretty good stuff. Maybe she'll family.

Maybe the family. Maybe she'll family. We're going to do non-spoilers, then spoilers. Great. So this was directed by Kate Shortland, who's an Australian director, which, look, to be honest, going into this, I wasn't expecting anything at all. As I mentioned, I'm just like, let's just get through it.

It's a prequel or an in-between call. Like, we know she can't die because she does die. Like, whatever. I thought it was pretty solid. Pretty solid, right? I mean, I wouldn't say you know she can't die. I mean, the rules. I thought it was pretty solid pretty solid right I mean I wouldn't say you know she can't die I mean the rules I feel like without going into it

anything yet I feel like the rules of the Marvel universe if you like I mean she could die and come back somehow like there's no there's no real would this movie have ruined your sense of disbelief if she died? Or she'd, you know, we won't get, let's save it for spoilers.

Okay, sure. Yeah, you know, if she'd been given a get out of jail free card of some sort in this. Okay. Maybe. Here's something I will say, though, as a criticism up top. Okay. It's late.

It's like five years late. It is late, isn't it? This movie would have been perfect after Civil War, and I think it would have been better received. And I also think it would have worked in between Infinity War and Endgame. I mean, you could set it then even potentially, or you just say this was like Ant-Man and the Wasp was set before Infinity War. Yeah. So you could have done it like that if you wanted to. Now, when you say this movie was late, you mean it's been released late, obviously.

Well, that, but also. It was produced late. It feels like a lot of the stuff in this. And again, like I genuinely, like I really liked it, despite some other things which I'll talk about. But it just feels like this should have been a 2017 movie. Right, okay. Yeah. But I think ultimately. But it doesn't feel, would have been a 2017 movie. Right, okay. Yeah. But I think ultimately.

But it doesn't feel, would you say it feels dated or do you feel like. No, no, I just mean timeline wise. I just think why wasn't this made earlier? That's what I'm saying. Yeah. The answer is probably Ike Perlmutter somehow. I think he was gone by then, but probably. I would say the ramifications or the.

That I would agree with. You know, the idea of like, you know, you've got a person in charge who's like, well, we can't do a Black Widow movie because Black Widow toys won't sell or something like that. Yeah, exactly. So let's not do it, you know. Yeah. So there you go. But for you, Mason, did you also enjoy the terrific opening sequence? Remind me what happens in the trailer.

Family. Oh, sure. Okay. Yeah. So we get out with the movie. Also, there'll be, this is, is this a spoiler? I mean, it's not. We're saying some So we get out with the movie. Also, is this a spoiler? I mean, it's not. We're saying some things that are happening in the movie.

It's also on, like, if you can't get to a movie, it's literally online. That's true, yeah. If you want to pay 30 bucks for it. But, yeah. This movie opens with a flashback. It's in the trailers. Yep. We see a young Natasha Romanoff with her family in the US in the 90s?

Yeah, like mid-90s. Mid-90s. And we see what they're up to. Yeah. And it's kind of, and it ends up being, well, the family is, I mean, it's the opening sequence and it's in the movie. I mean, it's in the trailers. They're doing an undercover family Russian mission.

Yes, that's true. They're stealing some stuff or whatever. Yeah, yeah. They're not a real family. They're not a real family. They're a manufactured kind family Russian mission. Yes, that's true. Where they're stealing some stuff or whatever. Yeah, they're not a real family. They're not a real family. They're a manufactured kind of deep cover family. And what I loved about that is they're so undercover that they're just doing American accents and American things when nobody is watching.

Like they are one. They're all, like the kids and all are 100% committed. They're all in. Yeah, to this thing. Just in case the paps are there. Yeah, exactly. But I thought that was like super interesting and then they have to kind of go on the run in the US

to kind of make the escape and David Harbour's dadding about and Rachel Weisz is, who's not in it as much as I thought she would be actually, but she is in it. I thought it was like a really, really solid opening and then we get the Smells Like Teen Spirit sad version or whatever with all the Black Widow footage and training interspersed with real world events and that leading into the next thing that happens, Mason,

which is Black Widow stuff mostly. Mostly some Black Widow stuff. Look, okay, I'm trying to duck around spoilers. One day we've got to have like a, one day, James, the world's got to sit down and have a frank discussion about spoilers and what constitutes a spoiler. Good point. Because as has been said, there are people who, like a review of a movie used to say stuff like,

like if you'd read one in the paper or even on the internet or whatever, it'd say stuff like, this movie's got a car chase, you've got a C to believe or something like that. But nowadays if you were to say that, someone would say, oh, I actually wanted to go into this movie knowing there wasn't, not knowing there was a car chase in it, but go off I guess. Like there's, like you should just stay off the internet. Yeah, I completely agree.

Like reviews used to be for people who were on the fence about seeing a movie who needed a little nudge in either direction. But now reviews seem to be for people who want to know if other people agreed with their assessment of the movie and they'll read it later. Yeah, that's not inaccurate. Yeah. Yeah.

That's what I do. But yeah, I don't think, like I wouldn't consider it a spoiler to say there's an action sequence at the start of the movie or something like that. Well, let's just vaguely talk about action sequences. I'll also say that. Oh, I once, did I mention this one time? I said about a movie on Twitter, I think.

Or on a podcast. You were going to say on a plane. On a plane. I think I said of a movie once, I won't say anything, but just letting you know, I thought it was really good and if you get a chance, you should see it. Yeah. And somebody said, oh, spoilers.

And I was asleep at the time and so I woke up to like a conversation between this person and another person and the second person was like, how is that a spoiler? Yeah. The first person said, well, I know what type of movies he, meaning me, likes. And so him saying he likes the movie gives me an indication of what the movie is like and therefore that's a spoiler.

So because of their understanding or their perceived understanding of you, you're not allowed to say whether you like the movie. Because that's a spoiler. For this one person. Yes, correct. Who knows you so well apparently. So that's the line is you can't say anything these days. Well, if they knew you so well,

they should have known that you were going to tweet about it. Great, great point. So here's something that I think is a credit to this movie. I wasn't like where's Captain America? Why is it Captain America here or whatever? Isn't Iron Man alive? And every scene characters are going to ask

when's Captain America going to get here? Yeah, I felt like the way the movie was structured and the way, you know, she is as a character, it just felt like she's got it. It wasn't like I'm in over my head. Yes. You know what I mean? Look, she does like get help from various people throughout it,

but it felt like, no, she knows what she's doing. She can hit people with a big electric stick. And I was going to say, like what I enjoyed about this, I think, is that the action sequences hit very hard. Yeah. I think there's, you know, and the Black Widow gets hit very hard. Like, there are moments where people are being, like, hurled at odd angles into, you know, like, walls and over heavy stuff.

Heavy stuff, mate. Heavy stuff, man. It's heavy stuff if you're watching. But just, like, people are just, they're not pulling their punches, literally or figuratively. Yeah. People are just being, like, just hitting each other. Just hitting each other, you know.

Just going for it. Yeah. So there's a few action sequences, obviously. There's like a prison escape sequence. Spoiler alert, James, please. Yeah, whatever. Look, they're in the trailers. Yeah.

But there's like a Black Widows, like a group of Black Widows kind of situation. There's a bunch of Black Widows in this. And there's a big finale, a big bombastic finale. Which is in the trailer. Yes. I remember you saying, I think after we saw this, that you were like, you thought it got a little,

was it a little too much at the end? Was that you who said that or a different person? Might have been a different person. Was that Dave Lee? Might have been our friend Dave Lee. No, I didn't think it was too much. Okay. All right.

Well, I just imagined that. Yeah, yeah. Or Dave Lee said just, I said this, but attribute it to Nick Mason if you could. Yeah. Okay, because in general I thought the action sequences were very good, but here's another thing about this movie. A lot of this is just the Winter Soldier. It's the most Winter Soldier thing that Marvel have done since the Winter Soldier.

And they do a lot of the Winter Soldier kind of stuff, don't they? They do, yeah. So if you like that one, I think this is very much, this isn't, you know, this isn't. I think it might be also to a fault because there's even some story beats that are like, this is the Winter Soldier. Again, right? Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

Yeah. Spoilers? No, hang on. Let me think. We can talk about the characters, Mason. We can talk about the characters, Mason. We can talk about the characters. What do you think about Florence Pugh and do you think her accent will last? No, I think she'll be like, I'm in America now, I've got to do, or will I?

Or British. Or British, yeah, I'm going to do. She is British. No, I think it'll go. I enjoyed, you know, here's the thing, I enjoyed David Harbour as the Red Guardian, you know, former. Me too. You know, he's received the. I enjoyed David Harbour as the Red Guardian, you know, former. You know, he's received the Soviet version of the Super Soldier Serum. Yeah.

It's interesting, though, that I feel like maybe the character from the 90s, it felt at times like quite different from the character that we see in the sort of the modern era of the movie. I mean, obviously there's like 20-odd years in between. And circumstances have changed. But he seemed like in the early stuff he seems just like a kind and loving dad.

But I think also maybe that's also because he was doing it undercover. Sure. So I do wonder about how much of that is like what's real of him and what isn't. Yeah, that's true. You know what I mean? But also, you know,'s real of him and what isn't. Yeah, that's true. You know what I mean? But also, you know, the things that happened to him in between. Yeah, yeah.

You know, may have affected him somewhat. Yeah, I mean, he was, you know, we see him in prison. He's been in prison for maybe decades. Yeah. So, yeah, and he's sort of become like a braggart and kind of like a. Just old war stories, mate. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I really enjoyed that character, though.

I can't talk about it. We'll talk about it. Spoiler culture has ruined everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I really enjoyed that character though. I can't talk about it. We'll talk about it. Spoiler culture has ruined everything. Yeah, it has. And I also thought Rachel Weisz was great as well. Like I think that family unit that they kind of built for this, I think it was good.

I think it really worked. I thought it was interesting how they addressed the things like they mentioned casually in Age of Ultron that she doesn't have a uterus. Yeah, I thought that was, I mean. That was apparently directly because they were like, we'll address it in a joking way because it's so horrific and it's something that all of these characters have, they've just built this into the universe and it's like, so that's how they decided to deal with it.

Yeah, I did feel like that because there is that, again, it is like just Florence Pugh just throws it in there as like a joke. Yeah. And it's very, the set-up seems to, the set-up though, it's odd because the character who sets up that joke should know that. Well, the way that particular joke came to be, because I read into it a bit, is that one of the male writers wrote it and they were like, because that's something that like a dumb guy would say,

like an insensitive dumb guy. And they were like, yeah, but even then, like it's still kind of, like it's not a great joke either. You know what I mean? Even if you're like, it's a dumb guy. Like it's just been done to death. So why is it in there? Well, because for then the follow-up of like, you said this thing

and now you're going to hear every detail about it. Oh, I see. Yeah, right, right, right. As kind of like you should know better than this. Yeah, right. That was the idea behind it. But it seems like it's a joke or joke that a character who isn't so closely associated with the Black Widow

should be making. Yeah. Because it's like wouldn't you know that that's the case? Maybe he doesn't. Maybe he doesn't. He probably does though. He probably does. Yeah.

All right, let's do some spoilers. I'm going to say best movie ever. I had a good time. I think you'll, again, it's not cosmic. No. It's not, you know, it's not endgame world shattering. But I think that's a good reset. I think it's also on the stronger end of the Marvel movies.

Definitely. I think it's, like, well above average. Like, I think if you build a movie where one of the Marvel movies, definitely. I think it's well above average. I think if you build a movie where one of the main characters, as far as you know, going in, is not going to be alive in the future, you have to set it up so we care about the stakes in the movie and all the other characters. And I think I did. I agree.

It was real nice. Spoiler alert. We're going to talk about Taskmaster. Oh, of course, yeah. Who's not the main villain. I was going to say just before we do that, Black Widow doesn't. Like there is no switcheroo. Oh, no.

Not that there isn't still room for another switcheroo. I guess there is. I mean you can bring her back at any point. And again, I think as I've said, I'm pretty sure that the current Marvel comic book version of Black Widow is just a clone of the original Black Widow. Okay. But we've just completely, like that happened a couple of years ago,

so they've just glossed over it now. Well, isn't Tony Stark the current one, like he was a little boy Tony Stark from the past? No, they erased that again. Ah! Yeah. I don't even know anymore. He was a little boy Tony Stark in the past.

Yeah. So the Taskmaster in this, I know a few people are upset about this, is basically the Winter Soldier because it's somebody from their past, sort of, or her past specifically. The mystery winner. Who is it going to be? Is it going to be Rachel Weisz? Is it going to be the one other guy?

Yeah, exactly. So for me it was something that as soon as they were like, oh, Ray Winston's in this. They're like, Ray Winston's daughter, you killed Ray Winston's daughter in an explosion. No, you didn't. It's the taskmaster. Straight away.

Because, again, when a character like Black Widow says, oh, I've got a lot of red in my ledger, I've got a lot of regrets in the past, what they mean is I've killed a lot of really bad people and I feel a bit conflicted about it sometimes, not I killed a defenceless girl in an explosion. Yeah, that's right. You can't put that in. Yeah.

They will not allow that in a Disney movie, I would say. But I think, you know, the idea of that reveal wasn't entirely paid off because she kind of gets forgiveness from Olga Kirilenko, the actor who plays her, like briefly because she's like, oh, I've taken away your mind control powers or whatever, and now you can, and she's just like, oh, thanks for saving me. But I think it should have gone, I'm still going to kill you

because you put me in that explosion. Yeah. Like you are still largely responsible for this, and I think they hand-waved a lot of that away when they shouldn't have. Yeah. It's a bit of the WandaVision situation of like, well, you did mind control this whole town against their will and we're all very mentally scarred by it. But I guess you're a powerful magician though, so it's okay.

We're just not going to, we're going to let you go. We'll just let you, it's fine, don't worry about it. But I know there are people though that are upset that the Taskmaster maybe wasn't done properly. I mean, a lot of it would probably be because the Taskmaster's not a man. I'd imagine. I mean, there is that. But I think there are also people who, like, they like this character

and this wasn't a proper representation. Yeah, right. But for me, the Taskmaster is just, like, it's a person in a skull mask who can do karate kicks. Yeah. Like, I don't care. You can do anything with this character. There's sort of two, in the comic books,

there's sort of two versions of the Taskmaster. There's more recent one and he's kind of more a cool sophisticated guy yeah and he's kind of i guess i would say probably more in line with this version where he's just kind of cool and deadly and yeah you know he had his own solo book where he's kind of like you know cool and menacing or whatever but there's like original version where he's like you know he's got the knee-high boots and he's got the cape and he's got the sword and he's just like he's an evil Marvel villain who also just talks like a New York street tough. He's just like, hey, jarheads.

You know, he's one of those guys. Yeah, right. Okay. Which is kind of my favourite version of that character. So I guess the only thing. Things got to change, I guess. But I guess the only thing that I also... You can't really use Taskmaster... Hey, Captain America, get a load of this.

He throws a hot dog. Throws a hot dog, yeah. Because I guess you can't really do much with Taskmaster from here, like as a villain, I guess. Yeah. Because they kind of wipe all that away. But again, it's not a character that I particularly care about. So I guess if you're super into it,

I could see how this would be upsetting to you, Mason. Yeah, I'm very upset. I'm not upset, but I think that, I guess, I mean, you know, we now have room for that character to develop a personality of her own. So you can bring in the New York Taskmaster. You think so? Two Taskmasters, double Taskmaster? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Oh, my God. But I like the version of Taskmaster. He's just, he occasionally gets into it, but mostly he's just training other villains. Okay, yeah. It's just, you know. I could see also this character going off. Hey, you jabroni.

But I could also see this character going off. Let me throw a shield. You could do that, though, with this character. Yeah. Like maybe she doesn't want to get some revenge and then is like, I'm just going to do contract work or whatever. Yeah, sure. I could see that, you know, being a thing.

We talked about the plot, really? So there's too many Black Widows. Yes. As a result of the Black Widow mind control machine. Yes. And Ray Winston's done it. Yeah, he done it because his daughter was injured by a Black Widow or something.

Yeah. It was an explosion. Explosion, yeah. Explosion happened. Yeah, yeah. And so he's basically, he's in a big helicarrier. He's in a big Russian helicarrier. He's in a big Russian helicarrier in the sky, sure.

That sucks. It sucks, yeah. And he's doing that. I didn't even know he was in this movie. Sure, yeah. Did you? No. Yeah.

And he's all like, I'm in control and I'm doing world organisations and you don't even know any people in the UN I know or whatever. You know, he does that speech. And then he gets hologram masked. Sure, yeah. He knew though. He knew there was going to be a hologram mask. Were you surprised or were you enchanted by any of those reveals?

Let me think. Evil Black Widows. Gosh, I don't know if I was surprised by really anything. I mean, you know, when only other additional characters showed up, because, you know, the question was who was the Taskmaster, when only additional characters showed up and it was like, here, here's all your mail, and the mail included the Taskmaster, the Black Widow vials, the antidote vials,

I'm immediately like, well, it's not him then, is it? Because otherwise, unless he's like, oh, curses, I forgot to getow vials, the antidote vials, I'm immediately like, well, it's not him then, is it? Because otherwise, unless he's like, oh, curses, I forgot to get the vials. Yeah, you might be right. Yeah, so he ends up being like he's delivering helicopters, isn't he? Yeah, he's the requisition guy, he's the supply guy. Yeah, exactly, which I didn't mind. That was, you know, I think everybody just assumed,

including us at one point, that, yeah, that character was going to end up being Taskmaster. What about this, though? Go on. Did you enjoy how Black Widow, when she goes to fight Ray Winston, and you can't fight Ray Winston because he smells. I saw people going like, oh, magic pheromones, but it's like. It's a magic world.

Yeah, I mean, a guy in a suit that flies around and he can't. The man physically can't fit in that suit. He's flying around shooting lasers, force fields, magic hammers. I agree. That shield does not follow any of the laws of physics. You can hand wave that away by saying that, but it's still true. It doesn't work. I thought it was odd, though, that so to get around her being able

to beat up Ray Winston, she breaks her nose on the table when you could have just done like cotton buds. Sure, yeah. Just stuff a bunch of cotton up your nose. Or maybe the pheromones say you also can't stick your fingers up your nose. Maybe that's right. So, yeah, but I mean the idea of like Black Widow like smashing her nose on the table and then like cricking her nose back into place,

that's more fun, isn't it? Does that mean she can't smell anything from this point forward? No, she fixed it. That's not how a seven nerve works. Mason, if you're going to believe in pheromones and magic flying, then you have to believe this as well, all right? Okay. You have to believe in it.

Were you happy with what we got for Budapest or Budapest? Not really because it feels like. They said they were going to cover it. They did. I mean, we got some action in Budapest. And we see some arrows in some walls or whatever and how they hid in the ceiling. We never really see what Black Widow and Hawkeye got up to.

Straight up though? That's a movie for another, scene for another time. It's probably in the Hawkeye series. Probably. Straight up though, straight up. Yes. I don't care, who cares? Okay, right.

Doesn't matter. Well, I mean, that's the thing. I feel like, again, we've reached this point where every, you know, every Clone Wars mention in a Star Wars has to be, we have to see the Clone Wars. We don't. You can just say that was an interesting thing in the lore of the past. Your imagination will fill it in better than any animated series ever will.

Did you want to see how Obi-Wan was rescued from that, those Gundarks that he fell into or whatever? I don't know what any of those words mean, but yeah, I demand it. I absolutely demand it. We must have that. We simply must. So a running joke in this also, and there's a video off my channel actually if you want to check out that Lawrence has edited,

is Red Guardian talks about how he fought Captain America in 1984. Yes. Which in the regular MCU timeline is not possible. That is true. But I maintain that it absolutely is possible. So in the comic book timeline, obviously he, well, I guess in the comic book timeline it's probably not possible now either because every eventful thing in a comic book timeline happened 10 years ago.

Yes. But in the original comic book timeline, Captain America went in the ice at the end of World War II. He came out of the ice in the 60s during the Marvel age and he joined the Avengers, so that would have been very possible. It's been 15 years. It's not that long. Yeah.

Now it's much longer, isn't it? Yeah, it really is, yeah. Yeah. But there were also before, wasn't there various other people who were Captain America in between? Well, see, that's the thing. So the Red Guardian could have fought, as I think you've mentioned, Captain America going back through the past.

Yeah. Or like. To play the games that suck ass. Exactly. A little reference for you there, James. But it could have, exactly. It could have been like a John Walker type. Yeah, it could have been.

It could have been a parallel dimension version. Yeah, it could have been an attempt to make another super soldier and they test it on a guy. Because in the, again, in the comic books, Marvel, when they were Atlas Comics, made an attempt to bring back Captain Marvel in the 50s. Yeah. And so what they had was Captain America goes.

So if you look at that timeline from the 40s to the 60s. Did you say Captain Marvel? I don't know. Captain America. Okay, sorry. Yeah, yeah. So what you have in the timeline is Captain America goes in the ice in the 40s. Did you say Captain Marvel? I don't know. Captain America. Okay, sorry. So what you have in the timeline is Captain America goes in the ice in the 40s,

he's around again in the 50s, and then he returns from the ice in the 60s. So what they did is they retconned the version in the 50s to be like, we tested the Super Soldier serum again on another guy. We created a new Captain America, a new Bucky. We brainwashed them to think they were the originals. We set them loose

on the streets of New York or whatever. Yeah. So he could have been one of those guys. Many of that, yeah. I've got a whole video on it if you're doing it. Nice. Do want to check it out. But even then I think like he's like a blowhard or whatever.

Yeah. But he's not a liar. I mean he's a spy so he's a liar. Sure. But he's not like – I don't see why he would make it up. Yeah, he's got nothing to prove in that prison. He could just snap people's arms. I think he fought somebody is what I think.

And maybe we'll see it in that Budapest prequel movie. Oh, yes, please. If you don't mind, Mason. Budapest and a bit in the 80s, they could call it. That's right. Bring back the Marvel one shots. I agree. I agree.

They're too expensive probably. They'll just put them on Disney+. What do you think about the post-credits if we're doing that, I guess? Sure are. The first one was a haircut and a vest and a helicopter and a get on your way to an infinity war. Oh, yeah, it sure was. I've got my vest.

I've got my new vest. Did she have that vest in the? She did. I can't believe I didn't recognise the vest. Continuity confirmed. I feel like an idiot. Wow, you're all about jacket speculation. It's true. I don't wear vests though. It's. Continuity confirmed. I feel like an idiot. Wow, you're all about jacket speculation. It's true.

I don't wear vests, though. It's true. Yeah. That's all I'm saying. It's not my area. You want your arms to be constricted. Yes. You want your arms to be free.

I want them free to swing about. But the follow-up one is- This is the real meat of it. The real one. What do you think? And what is it? It's very interesting, isn't it? So it's Florence Pugh goes to the gravesite. She's in America, presumably.

And she goes to the gravesite of Natasha Romanoff. Yep. And she's met there by Julia, the Contessa. Is she the Contessa? Yes, Dee Fontaine. I will learn her name at some point. About six movies in, I'll learn it. No, you don't need to.

You can say Valentina. I did a video on it. It's not doing very well. Anyway. There's a million of them. But I did it. No, you don't need to. You can say Valentina. I did a video on it. It's not doing very well. There's a million of them. But I did it. Anyway, the Contessa's like, hey, good to see you. They clearly know each other. Florence Pugh is working for the Contessa.

And then Contessa says, hey, how about I give you, here's a mission you can go on and you can finally get revenge on the man who killed your sister and shows her a picture of Hawkeye. He's got the Hawkeye haircut. He's probably in Japan. He's like, whoa. He's being papped.

He's being papped, mate, hard. By the Hollywood reporter. He didn't even know he got papped. Right? It's embarrassing for him. He's a spy of some sort. Yeah. So she's showing up.

He's one of the very inconspicuous bow spies, you know, one of those guys. She's going to be showing up in the Hawkeye series, presumably for a bit, and then they team up. Yeah. But I think. Because he could be like, I didn't kill your sister. She jumped off a cliff.

Yeah, I tried to stop her repeatedly. I tried to stop her with my traditional method of exploding arrows, but it didn't work. Yeah, pretty good stuff. Again, this is an issue that could be resolved with a post-it note. Definitely. He just shows up and he's like, I didn't know. Yeah.

Also, how do you- How would she know? How do you- how have they spun that lie? Yeah. Like, because she obviously died in space. Well, I think she could say, well, nobody saw it. Okay, sure, sure, sure. I mean, Red Skull saw it, but that guy, he's a weird space ghost.

Maybe they bring Red Skull back and he's like, yeah, he done it. I did say it. Yes. I was a space ghost. Yeah, it's fucking crazy. It's really boring, though. So the cynic in me would suggest that what they're doing currently is they're building a team of backup Avengers for all the actors

that are no longer going to be in these movies anymore because they've got a John Walker and they've got a Black Widow. They could do Abomination. They've got Abomination. But I would say, again, I guess it's a combination of the two things because the cynic in me is like, well, obviously what they want to do is they want to slowly swap out the actors whose contracts have expired and they don't want to do this anymore.

And they want to swap them out with people who are close enough that we don't notice. I think it's Dark Avengers. Yeah, I think the MCU fan in me and the comic book fan is like, well, what they're doing here is the Contessa is building some sort of Dark Avengers. She is a villain. Yeah.

She's a Hydra. She is building some sort of Dark Avengers. She is a villain. Yeah. She's a Hydra person. She is building some sort of dark Avengers or Thunderbolts team, which will give the world the appearance of an Avengers team, but it's under the control of her, whatever her agenda is. Because we need it, again, we've got to – because without a Tony Stark, where's the money coming from? As we've mentioned in – as we saw in Falcon and the Winter Soldier, if you're an ex-Avenger, you're not getting any money anymore.

Justin Hammer. Justin Hammer, maybe, yeah. That'd be cool. Yeah, I'd love that. Yeah, so at the very least, we're getting a US agent. We're getting a new Black Widow. We're getting an abomination, probably. Yep.

Well, he's coming up in. I think he's in She-Hulk and he's also in Shang-Chi. So yeah, we've got those two things coming up. Pretty hot stuff. It's very hot stuff. Do you think they'll break the Iron Patriot suit out of the mothballs and give us an Iron Man? Maybe. Because there hasn't

been any, because in the comic books, that was Norman Osborn formerly the Green Goblin who took that role. But in this, Iron Patriot hasn't had any huge PR disasters. No. It's just a suit they used for a while and then stopped using and it became War Machine again. Yeah.

So maybe they're like, time to bring back Iron Patriot. Bust it out. Here's something I think would be interesting. If this did come out between Infinity War and Endgame and then this post-credit said, she's dead and Hawkeye did it, that would have been a really interesting set up for the next movie. Yeah, that's true, yeah. Yeah.

Because then you'd be like, when's he going to shoot her in the head with an arrow? When's he going to chuck her off the cliff? Yeah, maybe, yeah. Don't you think that could have been? Yeah. Again, I think it just should have come out slightly earlier. Yeah.

But it didn't. And it's still pretty good. Pretty good. I thought. But I've got some reviews here, Mason. It's from Damon. I've got a bunch. It says, hashtag weekly planter pod.

I think Black Widow had some of the best action scenes in the MCU, definitely high on Marvel's rankings, and very happy it was my first time in a theatre since Sonic the Hedgehog. Hell yeah. There you go. Eli says, did the green vest in Black Widow give you guys the real solo vibes? I always wondered why she wore the gray one in Infinity War. I bet a long lost sister gave her that vest.

I don't think it was a big enough plot point to, it didn't distract me. Because I'm not like, oh, I didn't notice. Classic vest. Are you kidding me? Yeah, yeah. Oh my God. There wasn't a scene where she had to stuff all the Infinity Stones in her vest to run across a field or something. I know Claire hasn't seen this yet.

I'm hoping to get her to watch it before Suggestible, my less successful podcast. But nonetheless, it has some charm for that pocket scene alone because Claire's all about pockets. She's like, there's no women's clothes. Don't have any fucking pockets. I've got so many pockets right now. I've got too many.

Yeah. I'm not wearing clothes and I've got pockets, Mason. Whoa. Tierman says, just like Black Widow, as long as you can get past the fact that it's four Russians in Russia

speaking broken English instead of Russian, best movie ever. And I Watch Stuff said, I enjoyed Black Widow because it feels inessential to the MCU's overall timeline.

It didn't wrap up loose threads or really make any new ones. It's a story that stands on its own with great performances. Ray Winston's accent aside. Is it Winstone or Winston?

I've always said Winstone, but I'm probably wrong. Beowulf. He's in Beowulf. He's Beowulf. Sure. And great emotional beats. So there you go. So I think overall what we got, people, but I think it's a little bit more mixed on the whole.

Mixed to positive. Villain's not hugely memorable. I agree. Like Winstone kind of, he's just the generic Russian mobster kind of guy. He's just got a. I'm in George. Exactly. Live in this wooden room in a flying spaceship.

Yeah. Remember when the spaceship exploded and everyone was jumping out of that spaceship? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I blinked when we were watching it before Black Widow hit the ground and pulled the parachute and then she was on the ground. Like I missed the moment somehow where she pulled the – it was so quick. She was like 10 feet from the ground.

How did you feel about that final everybody's leaping off the – I liked it. Yeah? Yeah. It was cool. I think it was pretty all right. Yeah. And it looks good.

Yeah. Especially because – we'll talk about, I guess, what we're reading. We recently watched the G.I. Joe movie from 2009. Yeah. My God. Not great. But, yeah, and I think there's probably a fine line. When you have a character who doesn't really have any powers,

there's a fine line between, like, oh, this is cool because they don't have any powers but they're very skilled and we see them operating at their peak and they're going to leap into dangerous situations because they know they'll improvise a way to get out of it kind of thing. And I think that's kind of cool. But it can tip over sometimes into being like, oh, they are magic. Yes. Like this is just them being magic.

But I think this towed the line and I think the final sequence where she's like leaping from platform to platform that's falling to earth. I was, you know, it's pretty good. She knows what she's doing probably. I liked it. And I look forward to, I bought it again on Disney Plus for my family.

And it was my brother. It was like, buy it, get it, get one to watch it. Which brother? The one that you don't like. Typical of him, isn't it? Isn't it though? What, can't spend $35? Well, I write it off on tax.

Oh, that's true, yeah. So I'm happy to do it. It doesn't bother me. But I meant to watch it again before this, but I had to watch a G.I. Joe, so I missed it. There you go. Anyways, you moved to the next segment of the show? Do you know what it's called, though?

It's called What We Readin'. What We Gonna Read. And then I pause, What We Gonna Read, yeah. And then I put the themes. I'm not even ready, Mason. Whoa. Why didn't you warn me I had to do this? I'm doing the theme.

Westworld. I stopped that too early. It doesn't matter. The important thing is I said Westworld. I forgot that name. So as mentioned, we're watching the G.I. Joe movies. That's correct. We're having a great time. We're doing Iron Man. It's consuming much of our time. That's right. Iron Man 3 is coming out as mentioned, we're watching the G.I. Joe movies. That's correct. We're having a great time.

We're doing Iron Man. That is consuming much of our time. That's right. Iron Man 3 is coming out for Caravan of Garbage this week. But what else did you watch? What about Rick and Morty? Rick and Morty's back. Rick and Morty is back.

With several episodes in. Four or five in. 15 to 20 episodes in. It's really good. My WhatsApp is blowing up with something. I don't know what it is. Yeah. Yeah.

Sorry, go on. I would have thought that the Rick and Morty shtick would have worn off for me. The shtick and Morty. The schtick and Morty. The schtick and Morty, exactly, yes. Yeah. But I think I said this to Levens recently on a podcast, all the small games that I did a month or so back, that it's a good show, it's just everything around it is awful.

Correct, yes. Like it's well written and it's funny, you know. This season I think is leaning quite heavily on, hey, do you recognise that pop culture thing? Okay, sure. Because we had Mr Nimbus who's a very obvious kind of name or the Submariner pastiche and we've got Planetina who's your Captain Planet.

And we seem to be getting some sort of Voltron thing coming up soon and a Transformers thing I think as well. But, you know, why not? I like also in Australia, it goes straight to Netflix. Yeah. Week to week. That's awesome. Good, right?

Yeah. Love it. What else? I can tell you what I watched yesterday. My son's like, I want to watch Luca again. You're going to watch Luca with me. Is this your first time watching Luca? It is.

Okay. It's great, man. This is the mermaid one. That they dumped on Disney Plus for free. Okay. I should watch Oh, it is. Okay. It's great, man. This is the mermaid one. The Pixar one that they dumped on Disney Plus for free. Okay, I should watch it. Merboy, yeah. And well, it's technically a free motion because you pay actually a monthly fee.

But again, I just watch out of your window. I watch through your window, through your front window. I'm going to get you papped if you're looking in my window. It's not like if you're looking for inside out and like mind bending, like, but here's the thing. I'm kind of not. And this is like,

it's just a nice movie about two fish boys who want to win a race. Like that's what it is. A running race or a fish race. It's a bit of everything. Oh, it's like a triathlon, but for being a merp. Yeah.

Well, it's a triathlon, but one of the events is eating a bowl of pasta. Oh, mamma mia. Not a joke. It's in the movie. It's just nice. It's just nice and simple and fun.

It's a great kids' movie. I think I talked about this again on Suggestable. I really liked Soul. But it's not a kids' movie or a young kids' movie. Yeah. It's just ghosts. It covers some big issues. Yeah. Ghosts and afterlife and unfilled potential and jazz.

Yeah, right. But this is like, it's good. I think it's been sold short. I think it's really good. Yeah, and nice and fun. Does anyone drive a Fiat? A Fiat 500? No, there's a lot of Vespa talk though.

Oh, very good. Okay. So I loved it. It was really nice. Very nice. I've been playing, I think I mentioned it, that I got in the post. This game Kentucky Route Zero on the Nintendo Switch.

Yeah, you did mention that. So you've been giving it a red hot go. It's really good. It's more of an interactive story than a game. Like a book, like a choose your own adventure. I would say it has more interactivity than a choose your own adventure book, but it has less interactivity than your point and click adventure game. Gotcha, gotcha.

It's mostly just you walk to a place and you talk to somebody and you choose some options. Yes. But it's sort of like it's about a man. He's a truck driver. He delivers stuff. He delivers stuff for an antique company. He's got one more delivery to do tonight.

Is he allowed to do it? Yes. Good. He's got one more delivery. Is it his last delivery for the night or his last delivery ever? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tough to say. Okay.

But he's just sort of driving through this weird. Do you drive? You don't drive so much as you just move a cursor around a map. Okay, gotcha. Your finger. Yeah. But you basically, yeah, and you have to, in order to get to this place, he doesn't know where this place is and he has to ask around to get to this place.

So in order to get there, he has to go, he probably has to go to this place, he doesn't know where this place is and he has to ask around to get to this place. So in order to get there, he probably has to go on the zero, which is the sort of mysterious route through Kentucky. Supernaturally? Yes. And is the route zero, is it real or is it a metaphor? Yes is the answer. But it's definitely about the character. You meet some characters on the way.

You meet a woman and you sort of travel together. You've got an old dog. You meet some characters on the way. You meet a woman and you sort of travel together. You've got an old dog. You meet various characters and you learn about their hopes and dreams and their pasts and all this sort of stuff. Apparently, I think it was released in segments over a period of years. Oh, one of those ones, yeah. And some were free and some you could buy and et cetera. But this is all sort of together in one thing.

How long is it in general? Not that that is the mark of a good game necessarily. Well, I played it for a couple of hours and I got through about three parts and I think there's five or six parts. Okay, cool. You can knock it off I think in a day if you really wanted to rush it. But it looks great and the soundtrack is great. It's just like at one point you're just walking through a forest

and you're in the background but in the foreground there are just like mysterious people playing the banjo. The soundtrack is really good. It's good. Again, this is your update of games from years ago that Maiso is just playing now. Speaking of games from years ago, I've got a couple of things I want to talk about.

I'm literally looking now because I want to buy Streets of Rage 4 on the Switch. I always like those games and apparently the new one's really good. And I think those people are also working on like a Ninja Turtles beat-em-up for later this year. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Which I'm definitely 100% going to get. And the other thing is I was away this week with my fam on a fam holiday

with some other fams and they had a Daytona cabinet. And I'm like, I'm seriously contemplating and I shouldn't getting a Daytona cabinet. With the steering wheel in it. Yeah, like a true one. That's why you were about a steering wheel earlier. Like, do you use a steering wheel? Do you drive under a big poster of Sonic in Kentucky Route Zero? No, you don't, James.

Get your mind out of the gutter. It's $7,000, right? Okay, go on. A bit more with delivery. Okay, sure. It's also like a- Where are you finding this? Where is it?

I've been looking around. It's a 25-plus-year-old game. There's like three tracks. There sure is. I can get it on the PlayStation 3 for like nothing if I wanted it now, or do I get this thing that I'll instantly regret? I never buy anything, Mason. That's true.

You don't buy anything. It's true. But it's also $7,000. Yeah, well, I was going to say. By comparison, I'd be like well i probably wouldn't i probably wouldn't that'd be too much in my budget where i buy like three leather jackets a week yeah like you're right you don't buy anything so um how many times do you play it realistically oh that's the thing i don't not that much probably yeah but it's a great game Yes And you know

I could You know People can come around And play Daytona Is it a two Two yeah Two steering wheel cabinet Okay

It's also It's old as fuck Yeah So it's like It's only gonna break down Oh yeah You know what I mean I also looked into like

Gaming rigs Could I set up a Playstation 4 Like 3 with a seat And a whatever And like build my own Yeah I've gone crazy Mason Seems that way Yeah But I also kind of Could I set up a PlayStation 3 with a seat and a whatever and build my own? I've gone crazy, Mason. It seems that way, yeah.

But I also kind of want to convert maybe a corner of the studio into like what if I just get a bunch of arcades, you know what I mean, like the one-up ones and whatever, or get one that has like 1,000 games. Yeah. I don't think there is fun though. And you could get one of those things where it's like the little red and white circular targets and they move back and forth and you give us both an air rifle and we ping them. Exactly.

Get us one of those. I get a pinball machine. Pinball machine. Adam's family pinball. I probably won't, but should I? Hey, man, you've got a moderately successful podcast and a less successful podcast. Why not treat yourself?

Would you, if I got it, would you be like, why did you do that? Or would you be like, solid choice? I'm looking for judgment. And it's not like, oh, wow, that's a great question. Are you looking for someone to tell you, yes, you should get it, or are you looking for somebody ultimately to tell you you shouldn't get it? Have you told Claire about this? Yeah, totally. She's like, if you really want to get it, or are you looking for somebody ultimately to tell you you shouldn't get it? Have you told Claire about this? Yeah, totally.

She's like, if you really want to get it, whatever. You never buy anything. I cannot think of one specifically, but I bet there is one game that if I saw it for sale, I would probably budget to buy it. Time Cop. No, what's that? Time Crisis? Yeah.

House of the Dead. I don't think it'd be one of the... What about a Marvel Capcom? What about that S? Time Crisis? Yeah. House of the Dead. I don't think it would be one of the – What about a Marvel Capcom? What's interesting – What about that Sniper game? No. What's interesting as well is that like a lot of that stuff has since been converted to –

Whatever. Like I – There used to be a – There was two. There was a Dungeons and Dragons like side-scrolling beat-em-up game sort of in the style of an – Is there really? Yeah, there was one and there was a sequel.

It was an arcade game, but then it was ported to the Saturn. So my first thought there was like, oh, I could get the arcade cabinet, but it would almost certainly be cheaper to get the Saturn or the Dreamcast or whatever it was on and just get that instead. But isn't it more fun to have the cabinet? I don't know, maybe for a side-scrolling beat-em-up. Yeah. Oh, what about that X-Men arcade game?

It had six players. I mean, they do a bunch of those on the one-up arcade thing. You know what I mean? Yeah. Would you play it? Yeah. Yeah. I reckon there's probably one, yeah, like I said,

I reckon there's probably one. I couldn't tell you what it is off the top of my head, but if I saw one for a reasonable amount of money, maybe the first TMNT beat-em-up game. It's fun. Or you can, again, one-up. But the cabinet is better, like the full cabinet. Yeah, that's what I meant.

No, that's what I'm saying. Like the one-up cabinet is like it's got both games and it's all TMNT. And also, like if I bought a really old TMNT machine, I'd be like, this is old. This is old and weird and smells of soft drink. Exactly. It's all sticky.

I don't like it. Are you going to refurbish this? What are you doing? Every now and then I just hit up the 1UP website and I'm like, what have you guys been making? What have you guys been making? What are you up to? Yeah.

Yeah, good stuff. Okay. I'm like, well, this should be an ongoing segment. Should I guess. It's an ongoing segment. It's two minutes of you yeah just going back and forth on whether you should buy this cabinet or not because i think also i could totally justify the one-up ones because they're like seven eight hundred bucks right yeah that's not and they're

like compact yeah the daytona is it's a whole thing it's yeah it's like it's a cockpit and you also have then you would have to have a conversation with the delivery guy. Like the truck would block the street outside and he would be like, delivery, what's this? And he'd be like, oh, it's a Daytona machine. You'd have to have that conversation and he'd be like, huh, interesting. Why did you do that? Yeah. Because I'm an idiot, that's why.

Well, that's how I make my living, delivering stuff to idiots. So maybe that's what Kentucky Route Zero is about. Maybe that's his final delivery. It's a Daytona machine to an idiot. How do people like, you know people who collect like a bunch of expensive stuff? Yeah. How do they justify it?

Do you know what I mean? They have so much money that it isn't a thing. That it doesn't matter. Yeah. See, I don't think I'm at that point. But there are people who also collect this stuff who don't have a bunch of money and they put in...

I don't know. I'm not even really an arcade guy. I don't know what's wrong with me. Maybe a crisis? Is that what this is? A time crisis, sure. Anyway. Should we do the next segment of the show? Okay, James, just imagine this.

It's the Time Crisis arcade cabinet, but it just says Midlife Crisis on it. And it's got your face on it on the side. Could I be like polygonal? Yeah, yeah. You're a bunch of polygons and you're like, hmm. And the game itself, there's the guns yeah but you're actually just you're clicking around on the screen it's not like an action thing but it's you're clicking around on like various websites you're shooting your way through websites constantly contemplating

buying this machine so it's like you there's like a there's like an advertising spreadsheet you click you shoot it away and then there's the Daytona website and then you shoot it away and then it's like. And then I put it in my cart. Yeah, yeah. And then I look at delivery costs and I take it out of my cart. You shoot it out of the cart again. And then you shoot at some emails and then you shoot back at the website.

Nice. Can I shoot myself? No, it's not how those guns work. They're not real guns. Okay, fair enough. All right, do you know what it's not how those guns work. They're not real guns. Okay, fair enough. All right, do you know what it's time for? Let's do some letters. Let's do it.

Wait, that was on silent. But I thought I put them on. Well, you did the right thing for the podcast, didn't you? Yeah, that's true. You know what I mean? Yeah. Here we go. Yeah.

The classic one was. Letters, oh letters, we love you. Some letters, they're only a day away. I know they're here right now. We're going to do letters. Just looking at this Ninja Turtle cabinet, Mason. There's literally the X-Men four-player arcade machine. But not the six-player arcade machine.

Oh, yeah. But six people. Yeah. I don't know six people who would play that with me. I want to start them all. I want to put my fake credits in on hit start on all of them and then move them individually. That's not fun.

Go from controller to controller. I'm trying to find the price of this one. Maybe I'd get a Smash TV cabinet. I'm into Smash TV. Each player got two joysticks. I do. One that you shoot in other directions. Yeah, that's pretty good.

The pre-order for the X-Men is coming up this month, so get ready, Mason. Pre-order date. Oh, is this one up? Yeah, one up. Okay, right. Goddamn that was pretty good. The pre-order for the X-Men is coming up this month, so get ready, Mason. Pre-order date. Oh, is this one up? Yeah, one up, yeah. Okay, right. Goddamn, these look good. What am I doing?

I don't know. What am I doing? Anyway, letters, Mason. This is the segment of the show where you write in and you tell us what's going on with you. That's exactly right, yeah. WeeklyPlanetPod at gmail.com. The Ninja Turtle one is also four player.

Well, there's four Ninja Turtles. That's what I'm saying. Does it contain just TMNT one or is there also Turtles in Time? No, it's got Turtles in Time and the other one. I didn't even know there was another one. They've got Killer Instinct. They've got a bunch of Mortal Kombat stuff. Dragon's Lair.

Wow. That's a movie. Yeah, that's Dragon's Lair. Just look at it on YouTube. That's option two right there. It's Dragon's Lair. Just look at it on YouTube. That's option two right there. It's all by the cabinet. Exactly. Golden Axe, Ms. Pac-Man, X-Men vs. Street Fighter Arcade,

Big Buck Hunter. Gosh. NBA Jam. Again, it's probably too much, but, man, if they did all the Marvel Capcom games in one cabinet, I would consider it. Well, they've got. But that's the thing with those games is you can also finish each one of them in 10 minutes.

Yeah, well, that's true. But this one, how about this one? This Marvel Super Heroes one has Marvel Super Heroes, X-Men, whatever, whatever, and The Punisher, the side-scrolling beat-em-ups shooter thing. With Nick Fury. Yeah, Nick Fury and another guy. No, it's just-

Oh, sorry, it's the Punisher and Nick Fury. I forgot. He's the other guy, isn't he? He's the other guy. All right. What are we doing? This is from Arthur. We should make this a spinoff show about arcade cabinets we think about buying.

And it's a YouTube series. So we just go to the place and we stare at the arcade cabinet. And the guy who's selling it's like tapping his foot and look at his watch. He's like, I got other potential buyers here. And we're like, just give us a... And we're just like... He's imagining it. It smells funny, but... It smells, yeah. But it's six player.

This is from Arthur. It says, Dumbest book. Okay. Hey Jimmy and Nicky, after what felt like the longest three years of my life, I finally completed my bachelor's degree and graduated from university. Congratulations. In return for the results I achieved, the university is offered to place a fancy binding and seal

on any hardback book of my choosing. I was wondering if you had any ideas as to the dumbest book I could choose to undergo this process, just so I can confuse the uni one more time before I leave. The best idea I've had so far is shagadelically speaking the words and world of Austin Powers. I sent you a John Travolta, a picture of a John Travolta book once. Oh, yeah?

Yeah, that could do it. What about if you did like The Game or one of those, you know, like one of those YouTubers who make books but they're just like, it's just like a pamphlet. Logan Paul's Handbook for Life. Yeah, there's a bunch of them. And it's like this is the secret to my success and it's like there's

like 18 pages in it. Well, it's interesting because I've heard the game, the Neil Strauss book, which is about him going into the world of pickup artists. I've heard it's very good, like it's a well-written book and it's interesting. What a waste. But that's the thing.

It's now you can't buy it because it looks like you want pickup artist tips. So I can't just be like it looks like you want pick-up artist tips. So I can't just be like, I just want to get this because I hear it's an interesting people. I'd be worried. You want to learn about nagging, don't you? I'd be worried it would like bury into my subconscious. And I know about nagging.

Also, it doesn't even work anymore. Everybody knows about nagging. But I feel like with this burying to my subconscious and I'd start just doing it to people. Yeah, right. Not like women necessarily, but just everybody. Sure, yeah, yeah. Just breaking them down so they like me more.

Yeah, yeah, exactly. That's interesting that it might be a good book, this book. That's what, because, you know, Neil Strauss used to write for like Rolling Stone when it was good. Oh, right, yeah. Doesn't he now write a book that's like, oh, I shouldn't have done the game. Oh, maybe.

That's a bad idea. You can get it as a double pack on Amazon, the game,, oh, I shouldn't have done the game. That's a bad idea. It was a double pack on Amazon, the game, and boy, I shouldn't have written the game. What an idiot. Okay, so what would be a good book? Yeah, maybe like a. The Bible. What about if you went thick?

You just went and went, here's the phone book. I want you to buy this for me. Or like one of those complete idiots, you know, the dummies guides to the internet or something like that. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Good. Yeah. What about, could you find something like weird and self-published from somebody who works at the uni? And get it specially bound? Yeah, maybe. Yeah. Man, a lot of options. Email in, folks, if you have any suggestions. Yeah, that's interesting. Yeah.

I think it's like the worst book I've ever read. I kind of remember. Maybe if you just went in with like a golden book. You know those golden kids' books? They've only got like 12 pages. It'd just be like, bind this for me, please. You know what I mean? Do you get sort of like this is dead?

Does it say like donate it to the library on behalf of Arthur? Is that what it would say in the book I assume? So, yeah. Great question. Maybe like Paris Hilton's autobiography or something like that. Yeah, yeah. Oh, my God. I was born and then I was rich.

And now this book. Yeah, this book's here. Cool, man. Yeah, I guess we'll think about it or we'll forget. We'll forget. But let us know. Let us know. Yeah.

Got a tweet here because you can actually tweet the show, hashtag weeklyplanetpod. Slim Shazza says, how about the best worst post-credits scenes for an episode? One that was funny or interesting or ones where the game was on, anything like that. I would definitely do that. We should rank them.

We should rank them. We should determine the best one. Rank them. Yeah. All right. I'll be up for that. Yeah, nice. Great stuff. do that. We should rank them. We should rank them. Shouldn't we determine the best one? Rank them. Yeah. All right. Yeah. I'll be up for that. Yeah, nice.

Great stuff. Love it. Let's do it. This is from Matilda and they have said, What up? Black Widow lied about My Little Pony. What? In the opening child trauma scene of Black Widow,

Yelena is holding a My Little Pony toy, but it is a modern Twilight sparkle and looks nothing like the Generation 1 pony toys they would have had in the 90s. They've said, they go on to say, okay, I know this is dumb, but if she's been holding a TMNT toy from like the Megan Fox movies, people would be so mad. That is true. And I love my little pony, so I'm mad.

That is very true. Can I be the official unicorn princess of the podcast? Absolutely, yes, you can. That's fascinating. No, you're right. Certain fandoms would be so upset unless they were like, it's a modern one, but we put it in as a little nod and a wink to the fans.

Somebody would have to justify it in an interview. Yeah, totally. They'd have to be like, so maybe they will. Yeah. Maybe. There'll be a whole movie about it. Maybe Kate Shortland will have to spend the rest of her life being like, yeah, we know, but this is a nod to the bronies actually.

That's why we did this because we respect the bronies. That's really funny. I just think that's really interesting, like that perspective of, I think that's very true. Also, if it was a modern Ninja Turtle, I would have noticed. Yeah, for sure. Because I absolutely did not notice that at all. There we go.

What else, Mason? That's everything. Well, I've got some. I'll go ahead. This is from. What else, Mason? That's everything. Well, I've got some. I'll go ahead. This is from Oliver who says, Hey, Nick and James, recently I re-watched the first Pirates film and was shocked how well it held up,

both the fun story and effects, especially seeing as all the sequels are bad. Some people dispute that, but I agree. You're doing some wicked hand motions. I'm trying to make it happen. You've decided this particular writer is a cool dude. This is who I am. What's a film that most surprised you with how well it's held up?

You got one? I was surprised at how much I enjoyed Iron Man 2 and 3. Oh, yeah. I'd agree with that. I thought they were still pretty good. Look, I hate to get back to G.I. Joe, but I did like that first G.I. Joe movie. That's wild. I know.

That's wild. I know. Because I watched the first one and some of the second one. I'm like, the second one's actually a lot better so far. We'll see. We will see, won't we? Yeah. Here's one that I watched because I've been re-watching some kids' films that I used to

watch. But also, I try not to do that because a lot of them from my childhood are not good and I don't want to watch them again and be like, you know, the things from my childhood, you should watch those. Yeah, for sure. So I try to watch like a bunch of newer stuff as well. But Honey, I Shrunk the Kids is amazing. Great.

It's a really good movie. It's really fun and the special effects held up really well. I watched this like six months ago or longer. But really, really good kids' movies because a lot of kids' movies don't hold up, you know? Yeah. I feel like The Sandlot would hold up. I always liked The Sandlot.

Okay, sure, yeah. Yeah. Well, see, it's interesting, though, because we don't, I feel like we don't have a lot of. I don't like The Goonies. Yeah, I feel like we don't have a lot of opportunity to rewatch a lot of old stuff. Yeah.

Just because if you look at, say, Netflix. I look at Netflix. So much of that isn't, like, so much of it is not pre-2000. Did you think Space Jam held up? No, I thought it was bad, but I saw it once as an adult to talk about it on Caravan of Garbage. Apparently the new one's all right. Okay, if you say so.

If you say so. That might be next week. Let me look into that to see if that's actually true. But otherwise, because we might be doing a Space Jam episode next week, Mason. Oh, my goodness. All right, good. And then Snake Eyes?

Yes. Then Snake Eyes is like the 25th, I want to say. Oh, my God. I think it is next week. Special advanced screening. Hello. Yes, please. Lock it in.

Lock it in, Eddie. I can't take my kid to see Space Jam because he's at school this week. School holidays are over. Take him out of school. Yeah. Take him out of school for a new legacy. Hey, you like LeBron James and Daffy Duck, I'll say to him. That's right.

And he'll say, what? Yeah. And you'll be like, you know, that T-shirt I make you wear with LeBron James and Daffy Duck on it. It's playing today. I could see it today. You could see it today. I won't.

Just treat yourself, James. Just get a movie ticket In an arcade cabinet Just you know Go nuts today Maybe I will Mason Yeah Anything else? I recently saw Jackie

Like I said A couple of weeks ago I read Jackie Brown Definitely still holds up Oh yeah I should watch Jackie Brown Again like it's You know Some of that stuff is

It's timeless James Yeah Yeah Is it set in a particular era Or is it set in 97 It's set in the current The or is it set in 97 or whatever? It's set in the current era. Of 2021?

No. Incredible, Mason. Anything else? Gosh. Gosh, indeed. Not off the top of my head, James. Okay, well, let's wrap it up then so we can talk about Space Jam next week. It's also coming to streaming, I think.

Okay. Yeah, so maybe I don't have to go and see it because I don't want to. I don't want to go and physically see it and sit by myself. Okay. See, here's the thing, though. Unless it's good, I would rather go out. I know it's like in the grand scheme of things, it's a small amount of money, but I would rather pay like $20

and see it at the cinema and hate it than pay $35 to see it in my own home and hate it. Why is that? I don't know. Did you get a popcorn? Yeah, I've got popcorn at my house, so I suppose I could just do that. I guess you could have popcorn. I just got some popcorn in readiness.

Do you do regular popcorn at your house? How do you mean? Or do you do like a fancier popcorn? I'll do like a buttered popcorn. A buttered popcorn. Do you do it just when you're watching movies or you might have a popcorn, as you'll say, smoking a cigarette? Just when you're watching movies or you might have a popcorn,

as you'll say, smoking a cigarette. I'd never thought of doing that. But I guess I could start smoking. I don't think eating and smoking would be good. I could sit on a stoop smoking and eating popcorn. Just the two driest things that's possible to do. You'd get papped. I'd get papped.

God, that would be, imagine Ben Affleck. He's just sitting on a stoop. He's just been to a custody hearing of some sort and he's just sitting on a stoop just smoking a cigarette and he's got a big glass bowl of popcorn, just an enormous bowl of popcorn. He's munching on it. Oh, wow. Very good stuff.

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Would you not care? I think it would be like this is now out of my hands. Oh, interesting. Okay. Yeah. Because there's like a refurbished one I've been keeping an eye on. I don't just want to get some junk one. Yeah, yeah.

You know what I mean? This has been sitting in an abandoned time zone, whatever, with just a wet pizza sitting on top of it. Yeah, right. Because I have on my phone and like one of my browser tabs open and there's a watch on there and I'm like, I'm fairly indifferent to this watch. And I refresh the tab and it's like they're all sold out.

I'm like, God, I need one more than anything now. I've got to, I'm just searching. Was it a good watch? Looks like a pretty good watch. Ind'm like, God, I need one more than anything now. I've got to, I'm just searching. Was it a good watch? Looks like a pretty good watch. Indifferent, though, you said initially. I was, but now desperately in need. Good point. Yeah.

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